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GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.SO LET'S CALL THE CITY COUNCIL, SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2022 AT 3:00 PM WOULD YOU ALL RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEG TO THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH THE SAMS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY.
AND NOW WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
AND WOULD YOU PLEASE SILENCE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICES YOU HAVE? SO WE'RE NOT INTERRUPTED DURING THE MEETING AS I HAVE DONE.
MADAME CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL A ROLE PLEASE? MAYOR MOI.
ALL RIGHT, SO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS SPECIAL BUSINESS ITEM
[3.a. AB 2870 Discussion/possible action regarding approval to participate in the Green Power Partners Agreement through Arizona Public Service (APS).]
A IS AB 28 70.DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS AGREEMENT THROUGH ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE.
ALICIA? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR, VICEMAN, COUNSELORS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, BRYCE SPECK, WHO'S ONE OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATORS, HAS BEEN RESEARCHING THIS, UM, SINCE THE BEGINNING, THAT OF HIS TIME HERE AT SEDONA, AND IT'S FINALLY, UM, COME TO FRUITION.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO LET HIM PRESENT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM APS TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE APS SPECIFIC TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, AND SHE WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER BRYCE'S PRESENTATION.
UH, SO WITHOUT FURTHER, DREW, HERE IS BRYCE BECK.
GOOD EVENING, UH, OR GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR.
UH, VICE MAYOR DISTINGUISH COUNCIL.
UH, AS ALICIA MENTIONED, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THE, TO BRING FORWARD THE POTENTIAL APS GREEN POWER PARTNERS AGREEMENT.
UM, SO THE GREEN POWERS PARTNERS AGREEMENT, UM, IS A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY THE ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE OR UTILITY PROVIDER APS WITH, UH, ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION APPROVAL.
UH, THE PROGRAM, UH, WOULD ALIGN WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, UH, WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, AIMING TO REDUCE, UH, COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSIONS BY 50%.
AND WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, THERE'S AN OBJECTIVE, UH, WITHIN THAT PLAN TO BE, UH, NET ZERO.
AND SO THIS, UH, ASPECT, THE SLIDE YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, OR THE PICTURE YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2025, THE CITY WILL TRANSITION TO CONSUMING A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS THAT'S DIRECTLY, UH, PULLED OUT OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UH, THIS, UH, GREEN POWER PARTNER AGREEMENT WOULD HELP US, UH, ACHIEVE OR GET TO CLOSER TO THAT GOALS THERE.
AND THE GPP, UH, HAS A VARIETY OF, OR THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THE OPTION THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS OPTION A, UH, IT IS A MINIMUM TERM OF ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF SIGNATURE.
AND IT, UH, AIM WOULD ALLOW FOR MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY WITHIN CITY OPERATIONS, THAT IF ADDITIONAL SOURCES CAME ONLINE, UM, OR OPTIONS, UH, THAT THE CITY COULD PURSUE THOSE, OR IF THEIR AGREEMENT CONTINUES TO WORK SUCCESSFULLY AS WELL AS ANTICIPATED, UH, TO CONTINUE ON, UH, AND, AND, UH, RENEW THOSE TERMS. AS, AS, UH, C FIT.
UH, THERE'S ALSO RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS, UH, THAT ARE TRANSFERABLE WITHIN THE AGREEMENT.
SO THE CREDITS, THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS THEMSELVES COULD BE TRANSFERRED DIRECTLY TO THE CITY FOR ANOTHER FI, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH IT OR RETIRED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
EITHER WAY, THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT IS A DIRECT ACCOUNTING MEASURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR WITHIN OUR MUNICIPAL GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES, UH, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, THAT RE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS THAT WE'D BE, UH, SEARCHING FOR.
THERE ARE ALL OTHER TWO OPTIONS WITHIN THE GREEN POWER, UH, PARTNERS IS OPTION B AND OPTION C.
UH, OPTION B IS A CUSTOMER PROVIDED LOCATION.
UH, THEY MIGHT BE, UH, MORE, THEY NEED TO BE REGIONALLY LOCATED AND THEN WOULD REQUIRE A, A MINIMUM TERM OF 20 YEARS.
UH, THAT'S GENERALLY LIKE A NEW FACILITY WOULD BE, UH, BEING BUILT TO MEET THAT NEED IN REGIONAL, UH, CONTRACT.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LONGER TERM FOR IT AND
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WOULD TAKE LONGER AGREEMENTS AND PLANNING PHASES IN THE, LIKE.OPTION C IS ANOTHER OPTION WITHIN THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS, IT WOULD BE PURCHASED ELECTRICITY OR ENERGY FROM NON-PLANNED SITES, LONG MINIMUM TERM, SIMILAR TO OPTION B.
AND THE CUSTOMER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCREMENTAL AND CAPITAL COSTS.
AND THAT'S GENERALLY CUZ IT'S A NEW SITE LOCATION THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE TRADITIONAL, UH, APS, UH, PLANNED, UH, PLANNED PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE ONGOING.
SO AT THE MOMENT, THE GREEN POWERS PARTNER, UH, LOCATION IS A WIND FARM THAT IS LOCATED IN NEW MEXICO.
ALL OF THE POWER AND ENERGY GENERATED FROM THAT SITE IS SENT TO AN APS SERVICE TERRITORY.
UH, AND THEN ADDITIONAL ARIZONA BASED SOLAR FARMS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED IN 20 23, 20 24 AND BEYOND.
UH, AND SO THAT, UH, INTEGRAL PART OF HAVING THAT ENERGY DIRECTLY SENT TO AN APS TERRITORY DIRECTLY SENT TO APS CUSTOMERS, UH, WHICH WE ARE A PART OF, UH, IS A, UH, DIRECT BENEFIT VERSUS BUYING AN UNBUNDLED, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT, UH, THAT HAS, UH, SOME, UH, DRAWBACKS WITHIN UNBUNDLED AGREEMENT.
SO THE AGREEMENT, UH, BEFORE YOU, UH, WOULD LOOK TO PROCURE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF APPLICABLE CITY ELECTRICAL USAGE FROM RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE OPTION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS, EITHER RETIRED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SEDONA OR TRANSFERRED, UH, ADDITIONAL FEE, THE X WOULD DIRECTLY APPLY TO THE CITY'S, UH, SCOPE TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
UH, IF FOSTERS PROMOTION OF COLLABORATION WITH OUR UTILITY PARTNERS ON A PUBLIC SERVICE AS WELL AS A REALLY COOL BENEFIT OF THIS PROGRAM IS THAT PARTICIPATION CAN, UH, PUT DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
SO THE PREMIUM THAT IS PAID WITHIN THAT, UH, $2 AND 50 CENT PER MEGAWATT HOUR DOES NOT GO DIRECTLY TO A STAKEHOLDER.
IT DOES NOT GO INTO LIKE A, A FUND THAT THEY SCROLL AWAY.
IT GOES DIRECTLY TO, UH, AN ADJUSTMENT MECHANISM ON THE BILL TO LOWER THE BILLS FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS WITHIN APSS TERRITORY.
UH, AND SO PARTNERS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS, UH, THAT PREMIUM GOES DIRECTLY TO HELPING, UH, FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE NOT HAVE THE APPLICABILITY TO GET IN SIMILAR PROGRAMS OF THE, LIKE, AND HELP REDUCE THEIR, UH, THEIR RATES THAT THEY WOULD SEE.
AND IT ALIGNS AS MENTIONED, ALIGNS WITH OUR GOALS OF DECARBONIZATION WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, AS WELL AS THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UH, NOW WHEN WE WANNA LOOK AT, UH, COSTS OF THE PROJECTED, UH, PROGRAMS. SO, UH, IN 2021 CALENDAR YEAR, UH, FOR ELECTRICITY, THE CITY, UH, SEDONA SPENT $558,013, UH, FOR 4,256 MEGAWATTS OF CONSUMED ELECTRICITY.
AND THAT'S SPLIT BETWEEN ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE ELECTRICITY, AS WELL AS THE LONG ROAD ENERGY SOLAR SITE.
UH, THAT IS OUT BY WASTEWATER.
AND WITHIN THAT, UH, THE ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE, UH, COST WE'RE $484,657 FOR, UH, 30, A LITTLE OVER 3,600 MEGAWATT HOURS, UH, FROM APS.
SO IN 2021, UH, INCLUDING ALL TAXES, FEES, UH, COST OF PRODUCTION AND THE LIKE, UH, APS GENERATION COSTS ABOUT $134 PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
AND 2020 IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME FLUCTUATION, UH, WITHIN THE COST THERE BASED ON, UH, FUEL MIXES AND LOADS AND, UH, WEATHER CONDITIONS.
SO THIS COST WRITER OF, UH, $2 AND 50 CENTS, UH, PER MEGAWATT WOULD BE AN ADDITION TO THOSE RATES.
AND SO IT'S A PROJECTED INCREASE ABOUT 2% BASED OFF OF THAT 2021 INFORMATION.
UH, AND OFF OF, UH, THE GRAPH THERE IN THE LOWER RIGHT IS, UH, WOULD SHOW THE, THE DARK, UH, THIS SECTION THAT HAS THE DARKER BURGUNDY BROWNISH COLOR THAT IT, UH, THAT IS THE DIRECT COST OF WHAT WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE PAID IN THE LAST, UH, THREE GREENHOUSE GAS REPORTING YEARS.
AND IF, IF THIS PROGRAM HAD BEEN, UH, AVAILABLE ON THOSE THREE REPORTING YEARS, THE SMALLER, UH, KIND OF ORANGE-ISH UH, SECTION, THERE WOULD BE THE COST OF WHAT THAT RIDER WOULD'VE BEEN.
UH, ALL THREE OF THE, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS REPORTING YEARS, THE COST ESTIMATE WOULD'VE BEEN UNDER $10,000, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
AND SO, UH, TO ANSWER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'D BE BENEFICIAL TO PURCHASE UNBUNDLED REX, UH, SO THE NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LABORATORY, UH, RECENTLY DID AN ANALYSIS THAT FOUND FROM DECEMBER OF 2020 TO AUGUST OF 2021.
RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT PRICES ROSE FROM A DOLLAR 50 CENTS PER MEGAWATT HOUR TO $6 AND 60 CENTS PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
IT'S DUE TO INCREASED DEMAND ON, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING AND EMISSIONS AND CARBON OFFSET.
AND THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BUNDLED WRECK AND AN UNBUNDLED WRECK.
AND UNBUNDLED WRECK WOULD BE A PURCHASE OF THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT FOR A SITE THAT WE DON'T GET DIRECT POWER TO.
SO YOU COULD PURCHASE ENERGY OR RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT FROM A, A WIND FARM
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IN NEBRASKA, BUT WE DON'T RECEIVE THAT ENERGY.THE ENERGY AT THAT LOCATION WOULD'VE GONE TO A NEBRASKA OR THAT SERVICE TERRY WITHIN NEBRASKA OR THE LIKE RESIDENT.
AND WE JUST GET THE CREDIT FOR, OR THE CREDIT FOR IT.
A BUNDLED WRECK HAS A ONE FOR ONE CONNECTION, UH, FROM THAT POWER GENERATION THAT WE DIRECTLY GET, UH, TO THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT.
UH, AND SO YOU HAVE, UH, MUCH EASIER TIME ON ACCOUNTING FOR IT, UH, WITHIN GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES.
AND YOU HAVE THAT, UH, DIRECT, UH, APPLICABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, WITHIN INCREAS INCREASING RENEWABLE ENERGY ON YOUR, UH, PROFILES WITH APS.
DO WE, COULD WE ASK QUESTIONS NOW OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL WE'RE DONE? BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK.
SO I GUESS, IS IT CHEAPER? IS APS CHEAPER THAN THE UNBUNDLED APS? UH, BASED OFF OF THE NA, THE NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LAB, UH, ANALYSIS, THE CHEAPER RATE WOULD BE THE APS AT $2 AND 50 CENTS.
UH, THOSE RATES AT THAT $6 AND 60 CENTS PER MEGAWATT HOUR, THAT'S BEEN PRETTY STANDARD THE LAST FEW YEARS.
SO THAT DIRECT ATTACHMENT WITH THE APS WOULD BE THE CHEAPER OPTION AT THE MOMENT.
AND SO WHAT'S THIS, UH, LOOK LIKE FOR OUR IMPACT ON MUNICIPAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS? SO IN 2021, UH, MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS ARE KIND OF BUNDLED INTO DIFFERENT SCOPES, SCOPES ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
UH, SCOPE ONE IS YOUR DIRECT EMISSIONS FROM OWNED OR CONTROLLED ASSETS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE FLEET VEHICLES, NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESSES, UH, THAT IS NOT, THAT ARE NOT ELECTRICITY RELATED.
YOUR SCOPE TWO EMISSIONS ARE INDIRECT EMISSIONS FROM PURCHASE ELECTRICITY.
AND THEN YOUR SCOPE THREE EMISSIONS, UH, ARE FROM ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT OWNED OR CONTROLLED.
SO YOU'RE BY THE OR ORGANIZATION, BUT YOU HAVE MORE IMPACT THAN THE VALUE CHAIN.
THAT WOULD BE, UH, EMISSIONS FACTORS FROM EMPLOYEE COMMUTING SOLID WASTE AND THE LIKE.
UM, AND SO WITHIN THE CALCULATED SCOPES THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR 2021, UH, THE GPP AGREEMENT WOULD TAKE, UH, COVER ABOUT 50% OF THOSE MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS SINCE THE VAST MAJORITY OF EMISSIONS OFF OF THE MUNICIPAL SITES ARE COMING FROM ELECTRICITY GENERATION OR CONSUMPTION.
UH, SO THE GPP WOULD COUNT FOR ABOUT, UH, 1,350 METRIC TONS OF, UH, CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT BASED ON THE 2021 DATA.
UH, AND SO IT'S A RIDER THAT IMPROVES, UH, EQUITY AND HAS THAT DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON RESIDENTIAL RATES AS WELL AS HAVING A DIRECT, UH, ASPECT BEING ABLE TO REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND WE'D HAVE THE MECHANISM TO ACCOUNT FOR IT EFFECTIVELY.
AND WITH THAT, THAT'S THE, UH, THE END OF THE, THE SLIDES I HAD FOR YOU ALL, UH, REGARDING THE GPP BY ANY MEANS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
I'LL TRY TO ANSWER 'EM TO BEST OF MY ABILITY.
UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR, UH, WITH TWO APS, OUR, UH, FRIENDS FROM APS MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS THOUGH ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND WHAT THE DIRECTION IS THAT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS HEADED THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO US.
IS OUR GOAL TO BE AT OUR 50% REDUCTION BY 2030 BASED UPON OUR OWN EFFORTS, OR ARE WE SATISFIED IF WE GO TO OUTSIDE EFFORTS AND GET BASICALLY THIS ONE TO ONE CONNECTION THAT GIVES US THAT CREDIT? UH, IN MY OPINION, I, IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE, THE 50% MARK IS LIKE INITIAL GOAL.
IF WE CAN GET TO THAT 50% AND CONTINUE TO GO BEYOND THAT, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, HIGHLY, HIGHLY BENEFICIAL FOR NOT ONLY MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, BUT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN HAS THAT GOAL OF SETTING IT FOR COMMUNITY WIDE.
SO THIS ASPECT WITHIN MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, IT SETS IT TO WHERE, UH, THE CITY WOULD HAVE A LEADERSHIP, UH, BEING ABLE TO SHOW LEADERSHIP WITHIN THAT REALM AND SHOWING ITS COMMITMENT TO RENEWABLE ENERGIES AND REDUCTIONS IN ITS GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES.
UH, BUT THAT 50% REDUCTION IS THAT ONE SPOT TO GET TO.
AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS THAT WE CAN SEE WITHIN FLEET WITHIN, UH, COMMUTING ASPECTS WHERE, UH, THE EMISSIONS THEMSELVES HAVE, UH, ARE ATTACHED TO A COST WITHIN OPERATIONS.
SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE ELECTRICITY COSTS, IF WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE EFFICIENCIES, IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN OPERATIONS, TRANSITION FLEETS, UH, IMPROVE COMMUTING ASPECTS ARE INHERENTLY GOING TO, IN FUTURE REDUCE THE ABSOLUTE OPERATIONAL COST THAT ARE INHERENTLY BAKED INTO THE OVERALL COST OF THE, UH, EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED OFF THE GENERATION OF IT.
SO I, I THINK THAT 50% MARK IS A INITIAL MARK TO GET TO, BUT UM, IT, IT'D BE BENEFICIAL IF YOU CAN GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO WITH IT.
UH, I, I, I THINK THAT, UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW LONG DOES APS PLAN TO MAINTAIN THIS KIND OF A PROGRAM? I WOULD, UH, DEFER TO APS ON THAT ONE, IF
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THANK YOU.UH, MY NAME IS SARAH O FROM APS, AND WE FORESEE MAINTAINING THIS PROGRAM FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
UM, THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS THAT WILL BE GENERATED FROM THESE FACILITIES WILL BE FOR THE LIFE OF THE FACILITIES, WHICH ARE 20, 25 YEAR ASSETS.
UM, AS BRYCE POINTED OUT WITHIN HIS PRESENTATION, WE WILL BE ADDING RESOURCES EVERY YEAR FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURES WHILE INTO THIS PROGRAM.
SO WE WILL HAVE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS, UM, FOR CUSTOMERS, UH, TO RECEIVE THROUGH THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
UH, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, THE PRESENTATION SEEMS TO INCLUDE A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT.
UH, TO START OFF, UH, IS IF WE WERE TO TERMINATE THAT AGREEMENT AT THE END, IS IT NOT REALLY A FALSE CLIMATE VANTAGE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY BUILT ANYTHING NOW TO MAKE UP FOR IT AND REDUCE ANYTHING IF WE DON'T CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT IN PERPETUITY.
IF THE AGREEMENT WASN'T MADE IN PERPETUITY, YOU'D HAVE TO FIND ADDITIONAL SOURCES, UH, TO REDUCE THOSE EMISSIONS.
SO THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPING A SOLAR, SOLAR FARMS OR RENEW, UH, RENEW OTHER RENEWABLE ENERGY SITES.
SO THIS IS AN INITIAL STEP TO SHOW THAT COMMITMENT.
UM, IF THE CITY DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PURSUE THAT OPTION IN THE FUTURE, BUT THEY STILL WANTED TO REACH THAT 50% REDUCTION GOAL, YOU WOULD NEED SOMETHING, ANOTHER PROJECT OR THE, LIKE, TO FILL IN THAT GAP.
OTHERWISE, WITHIN THE EMISSIONS INVENTORIES, YOU'LL SEE, UH, A SPIKE BACK UP WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
AND WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP FOR BASICALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT CHANGE.
UM, IS THERE SOME REASON WHY WE DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A 20 YEAR AGREEMENT? YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT? UH, AT THE MOMENT, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND 20 YEAR AGREEMENT JUST FOR THE ASPECT OF THE TIMEFRAME OF TO BUILD AND TO GET ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, UH, TO, FROM INITIAL PLANNING AND DESIGN TO CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION.
UH, THERE'S GENERALLY A VERY LONG PROCESS, UH, THAT GOES INTO THAT.
UH, AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN INITIAL STEP TO GET TO THAT.
AND, AND THE ONE YEAR FLEXIBILITY OF IT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE THE CITY IN MY MIND, FROM BEING ABLE TO PURSUE A OPTION THAT WOULD BE A LONG TERM COMMITMENT.
IT'S JUST SHOWING THAT INITIAL STEP THAT THIS IS AN OPTION TO HAVE A ACTUAL ACCOUNTABLE RENEWABLE ENERGY ON SITE THAT WOULD HAVE THOSE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS, BUT IT DOESN'T, UH, KIND BOX THE CITY INTO HAVING TO ONLY DO ONE OR THE OTHER IF THEY ENTERED INTO AGREEMENT FOR A 20 YEAR CYCLE.
UH, THE COMMITMENT TO THAT IS MUCH GREATER.
THE COST OF THAT IS MUCH GREATER.
AND SO THAT ASPECT, UH, WOULD BE A, A LARGER DISCUSSION THAT WOULD NEED TO, UH, TAKE PLACE.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LET'S DO THIS FOR A YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE LEFT OUR OPTIONS OPEN TO DO OTHER THINGS OURSELVES IF WE DECIDE TO DO, THAT'S FOR FLEXIBILITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WANTED TO BUILD OUR OWN FARM FOR SOME REASON AND GO OFF THE GRID COMPLETELY, AND WE'D HAVE TO DO THE ANALYSIS OF THAT COST AND ALL THAT.
UH, BUT AS YOUR INTENT TO RENEW THIS ON AN ONGOING BASIS GENERALLY, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE CUMULATIVE, THAT PIECE PLUS OTHER PIECES THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, IT WOULD BE MY INTENT, UH, OR THIS, THE INTENT THAT I WOULD SEE WITHIN THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE THAT IF IT'S EFFECTIVE IN WORKING AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION TO CONTINUE, UH, TO PARTICIPATE WITHIN THAT, IF IT'S WORKING EFFECTIVELY IN THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL GOVERNMENT AT THAT TIME CONT ONCE THAT CONTINUE THAT DIRECTION OF MAINTAINING FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE AND CONTINUE TO FOSTER.
IF THE COUNCIL DIRECTION IS THAT YOU WANT A LARGER SCALE AGREEMENT, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PURSUE.
SO I WANT TO VIEW IT SO MUCH AS, UM, AS WHAT THE PROGRAM'S INITIAL INTENT ARE, IS JUST THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AN OPTION ON HOW WE ACTIVELY GET THERE.
UH, AND THEN I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WANT TO PURSUE IT.
DO YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THIS GPP OR DO YOU WANT US TO, UH, LOOK FOR A LONG TERM SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE A 20 TO 30 YEAR COMMITMENT, OR DO WE INCREMENTALLY TRY TO GET TO THAT SPOT? BUT I WOULD DEFER TO A CITY COUNCIL GUIDANCE, SOME, UH, PREFERRED OPTION THERE.
SO THEN YOU WOULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY MAINTAINING THAT UNLESS THERE WAS SOME SOLUTION THAT WAS CHEAPER AND MADE SENSE AND YOU COULD DEVELOP QUICKLY.
AND SO THE FLEXIBILITY IS THERE, BUT IT'S A GOOD START.
UM, AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT REP DOES A HUNDRED PERCENT, BASICALLY THE ONE TO ONE FOR A YEAR.
SO WE WOULD LEAP FORWARD TO NOW WE'RE COVERED COMPLETELY FROM A MUNICIPAL STANDPOINT.
IS THAT CORRECT? UM, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY, UH, ON THE ELECTRICITY COMPONENT, UH, FOR THAT AREA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE OUR IMPACT? YEAH, IF THE, IF THE CITY, UM, AT SAY A YEAR TWO TO
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YEAR DOWN THE LINE DID NOT WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT AND DIDN'T HAVE AN APPLICABLE SOLUTION WITHIN, UH, THAT EMISSION FACTOR ON RENEWABLE ENERGY, YOU WOULD SEE A SPIKE BACK UP TO THAT.I I JUST MEANT THAT THIS WOULD, YOU'RE PUSHING FOR AN AGREEMENT OR RECOMMENDING AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT YES.
AND IT, WHEN YOU SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, OR ARE WE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR ONLY THAT THAT'S NOT COVERED CURRENTLY.
IS SOLAR, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK THE WASTEWATER PLANT GETS SOME CREDITS.
I THINK WE, OUR PARKING LOTS HAVE COVERS THAT GET CREDIT.
SO THE A HUNDRED PERCENT MINUS THOSE PIECES, IS THAT KINDA WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OR YOU'RE JUST USING A HUNDRED PERCENT GENERICALLY TO SAY, WE'LL JUST BE A HUNDRED PERCENT WHATEVER THAT MIS MIX IS.
SO THE, THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT AGREEMENT WILL BE, BE APPLICABLE TO THE ENERGY THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY TO IT.
SO THE, THE CREDITS THAT WE GET FOR, SAY THE, THE SOLAR AT, UH, CITY HALL, UH, WE DON'T RECEIVE THE ENERGY DIRECTLY FOR THAT.
WE GET A CREDIT FOR HAVING THE SOLAR PANELS ON SITE.
UM, AND THEN AS WELL AS OUT AT WASTEWATER, UH, WASTEWATER SOLAR FACILITY, UH, THAT IS, UH, THAT'S A SECONDARY OPERATION THROUGH LONG ROAD ENERGY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE COMPONENT TIE IN WITH, WITH ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE.
UH, AND SO THAT SOLAR COMPONENT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE FOR ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE ENTITY.
SO IT'D BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF APPLICABLE ACCOUNTS, UH, THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THIS APS AGREEMENT.
SO IF I, IF I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID CORRECTLY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THOSE ARE OUTLIERS, SO THEY DON'T REALLY APPLY AND WHATEVER, WE'RE NOT GETTING SOLAR POWER FOR CREDITS OR WIND FARM CREDITS, UH, CURRENTLY FOR THAT ENERGY WE'RE GETTING FROM APS WOULD ALL BE COVERED, UH, FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
WELL, BRYCE, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THIS
UM, BUT MY QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE, I THINK, PROBABLY PRETTY MORE BASIC, UM, BECAUSE I WANT TO BUILD UP TO WHERE YOU ARE.
UM, THE, THE, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE PRESENTING THAT THE PROGRAM WITH APS WASN'T REALLY REX, UM, AND THAT REX WERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
DID YOU INTEND TO MAKE THAT? UH, I DID NOT INTEND TO MAKE THAT.
IT'S, UH, SO WE RECEIVE RENEWABLE THROUGH THIS AGREEMENT WOULD BE SEEN IN THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THE, THE REC THAT'S ATTACHED TO IT, UM, IS EITHER TRANSFERABLE, WHICH, UH, WOULD BE A ASSOCIATION WHERE ONCE IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY, THE CITY COULD THEORETICALLY LIKE SELL THAT WRECK OFF TO A THIRD PARTY OR THE, LIKE, THE OTHER ASPECT WOULD BE IS THAT THE APS WOULD RETIRE THE WRECK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WHICH WOULD STILL HAVE THAT CONNECTION ON THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, UH, WITHIN A GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY TO ACCOUNT, UH, FOR THAT REDUCTION IN ITS METRIC.
I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE, UH, UH, HOW REX WORK IS THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHERE THE ENERGY IS GENERATED FROM.
UM, THEY JUST SORT OF PUT YOUR NAME ON IT AND, AND, UH, YOU YOU PAY FOR THAT.
AND IT, THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT OR 50% GREEN ENERGY, EVEN THOUGH THE ACTUAL ENERGY THAT'S LIGHTING THESE LIGHTS COMES FROM THE GRID AND COULD BE A MIXTURE OF COAL AND GAS AND WHATEVER APS CURRENT MIX IS.
IS THAT IF, IF WE GO WITH THIS APS PROGRAM, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE SAYING OUR ENERGY IS NOW GOING TO COME DIRECTLY FROM NEW MEXICO FROM A RENEWABLE SITE THERE.
AND ACTUALLY WHAT'S LIGHTING THESE LIGHTS IS NOT GOING TO BE A MIXTURE OF COLD GAS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT THE, UH, ASPECT WITHIN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT FIRST, THE, YEAH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE UNBUNDLED AND THE BUNDLED REC.
THE UNBUNDLED REC, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY ATTACHMENT TO THAT ENERGY SOURCE WHATSOEVER.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE AN ASPECT WHERE A WIND FARM OR SOLAR FARM THAT IS OUTSIDE OF LIKE THE APS GRID TERRITORY OR OUTSIDE A CITY OPERATIONS, THAT ENERGY WOULD NOT HAVE AN ATTACHMENT WITH AN UNBUNDLED WRECK.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT ENERGY WOULD BE DIRECTLY RECEIVED BY A, A THIRD PARTY.
WE'D BE GETTING THAT ONE, THAT CREDIT, THAT PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS, UH, YOU REDUCE X AMOUNT, THE BUNDLED REC HAS THAT DIRECT ATTACHMENT.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO IT IS THAT YOU'D HAVE THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCE AND THE BUNDLED REC ATTACHING TO IT TO CLARIFY WITHIN YOUR ACCOUNTING PRACTICES OF WHERE THAT ENERGY IS COMING FROM AND HOW IT'S BEING ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY, UH, I WOULD DEF DEFER BACK TO APS ON EXACTLY HOW THEIR, UH, THEIR GRID SYSTEM WORKS OR WHATNOT.
BUT THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT, ESPECIALLY BUNDLED, IT WOULD BE, UM, PREFERABLE TO HAVE THAT DIRECT ACCOUNTING WITHIN OUR INVENTORIES.
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I THINK I GOT THAT.UM, AND, AND TELL ME IF I, IF I'M RESTATING IT WRONG.
SO THE ENERGY THAT COMES HERE STILL IS GOING TO BE THE SAME ENERGY.
IT'S GONNA COME OFF THE GRID AND IT'S GONNA BE A MIXTURE OF THINGS, BUT WE WILL KNOW THAT SOME ACTUAL RENEWABLE ENERGY, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY USE WAS GENERATED SOMEWHERE AND, AND, AND THAT WE GOT CREDIT FOR USING THAT AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAD TO USE THE REST THAT WAS ON THE GRID.
AM I STILL GETTING THAT WRONG? I'M SO SORRY.
COUNSELOR THOMPSON, IF I MAY ADD SOME CLARIFICATION AND PLEASE, SARAH, CORRECT ME IF I'M INACCURATE, BUT I DON'T THINK I AM.
THERE WILL BE NO DIRECT PIPELINE FROM THE RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT TO CITY OF SEDONA MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
SO WHAT IT IS, IS WE ARE PAYING THAT FEE FOR THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY, AND THAT'S A MARKET INCENTIVE TO, FOR THE UTILITY COMPANIES TO BUILD MORE PROJECTS AND PUT MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY IN THE GRID.
THE BENEFIT OF WHAT BRYCE IS EXPLAINING IS THAT NOT ONLY DO WE GET THAT WRECK FOR OUR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES, WE GET TO DEDUCT THAT FROM OUR EMISSIONS INVENTORY EVERY YEAR.
SO IT'S BENEFITING EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THAT GRID, NOT JUST CITY OF SEDONA.
DOES THAT MAKE MORE SENSE? UH, OKAY.
THE LAST PART WAS THE PART THAT WAS, WAS NEW TO ME.
THE FACT THAT IT'S COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE MEANS THAT APS IS ACTUALLY GOING AND BUYING THAT ENERGY AND BRINGING IT IN SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE ENOUGH FOR OUR NEEDS.
SO APS HAS PROCURED THIS WIND FARM.
IT HAPPENS TO BE IN NEW MEXICO BECAUSE THE WIND RESOURCE THERE IS SO MUCH BETTER.
HOWEVER, THE, ALL THE ENERGY THAT IS PRODUCED BY THAT WIND FARM WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE APS BALANCING AUTHORITY.
SO WE HAVE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT ARE CONNECTING THAT WIND FARM TO THE APS, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AREA.
SO ALL OF THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO ARIZONAN AND, AND POSSIBLY HERE.
BUT O OBVIOUSLY AS STATED, THE ENERGY THAT WOULD BE POWERING THESE LIGHTS IS GOING TO BE THE GRID MIX.
BUT THE BENEFIT OF THIS, THIS BUNDLED PRODUCT IS THAT THE RENEWABLE ENERGY IS ACTUALLY COMING TO THE APS SERVICE TERRITORY.
UH, THAT, THAT MAY ACTUALLY EXPLAIN ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I HAD WITH THIS BECAUSE MY, MY FORMER UNDERSTANDING, AND I, I WANT TO HAVE YOU TELL ME IF THIS IS WRONG, RIGHT OR WRONG, CUZ THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY QUESTION.
UM, WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT PROVIDES, ARE DOING THIS, OR ANY COMPANY OR A CITY DOING THIS PROVIDES, UH, INCENTIVE FOR APS TO GENERATE TO, TO BUILD MORE, UM, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES AND INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF THEM WITH THEIR MIX.
RIGHT? BUT IF APS IS IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING THE BEST POSSIBLE ENERGY THEY CAN FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS, THE CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT THE ENERGY MIX THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE ON IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE SHAREHOLDERS ARE GONNA GO ALONG WITH.
NOT SO MUCH WHAT THE, THE MARKET IS, IS TELLING THEM.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE, THEY'RE NOT SELLING MORE WRECKS THAN THEY ARE GENERATING YEAH.
IT'S, IT'S JUST LIKE GETTING YOUR NAME, UH, PUT ON A STAR, RIGHT?
BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS ENERGY IS COMING FROM OUT OF STATE, THEN THAT, THAT DOES ACT MORE LIKE AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY'S REX.
AM I RIGHT? IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE ENERGY'S COMING FROM INSIGHT OR OUTTA STATE.
WHEN THEY ADD RENEWABLE ENERGIES TO THEIR GRID MIX HERE, IT REDUCES THE EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EVERYBODY'S CONSUMPTION.
SO RESIDENTIAL APS, CUSTOMERS, BUSINESSES, ANYBODY WHO'S IN THAT GRID AREA IS AS MORE RENEWABLES COME ONLINE, THE EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELECTRICITY GENERATION AND CONSUMPTION LOWER FOR EVERYBODY.
SO NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE A DIRECT BENEFIT TO OUR GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING MISSION TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION, IT WOULD BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUSINESSES, EVERYBODY IN THIS TERRITORY.
RIGHT? BUT IF THEY, IF THEY WERE JUST SELLING THE, THE REX OR THE WHATEVER THE EQUIVALENT IS BUNDLED OR UNBUNDLED TO US FROM THEIR OWN STORE OF ELEC OF ELECTRICITY OR RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY, THEN ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS JUST KEEP AHEAD OF THE NUMBER OF WRECKS.
WHEREAS IF, IF YOU'RE, IF IT'S REALLY TRUE THAT BY DOING IN THIS PROGRAM, THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM SOME OTHER SOURCE, THEN THAT IS TRULY INCENTIVE FOR APS NOT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, BUT TO BUILD THEIR OWN.
AM I RIGHT? WELL EITHER BUILD THEIR OWN OR
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PROCURE IT.UM, THEY PROCURED THIS, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S WHAT SARAH JUST SAID.
IT, APS HAS PROCURED THIS FARM, SO IT'S THEIR NOW THEIR ASSET.
BUT THERE ARE ACCOUNTING RULES IN PLACE TO WHERE, UM, UTILITIES CANNOT LIKE DOUBLE COUNT OR, UM, DO DOUBLE COUNTING FOR REX.
BRY HAS DONE ALL THIS RESEARCH.
HE'S WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH APS TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS THE BEST AND, UH, BEST OPTION WHEN IT COMES TO RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA.
YEAH, AND I, I, I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT DOUBLE CREDIT CREDITING.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE WAYS OF MANAGING THAT.
I WAS JUST WANTING TO BE SURE THAT IF WE WERE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM, THAT IT REALLY TRULY WAS GOING TO MEAN THAT THAT MUCH MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY IS GENERATED IN ORDER TO SUPPLY OUR NEEDS, AS OPPOSED TO, OKAY, YOU GET TO OWN THE PART THAT WE'RE BUILDING ALREADY OR THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT.
UM, AND WE'RE NEVER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER REASONS FOR DETERMINING WHAT OUR MIX OF, OF ENERGY IS.
SO THAT'S, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT ON BEHALF OF APS, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT SARAH CAN EITHER.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE OF APS AND THEIR, UH, CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO MAKING THEIR GRID AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE, I, I DO TRUST THAT THAT IS WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS.
AND MAYBE SARAH CAN ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO APS HAS A CLEAN ENERGY GOAL OF BEING A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON FREE BY 2050.
UM, AND SO IN ORDER TO GET THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING HUNDREDS OF MEGAWATTS OF RENEWABLES BETWEEN NOW AND 2050.
UM, AND SO ALL OF THOSE NEW RENEWABLES, ANYTHING THAT WE ADD ONLINE AFTER 2021 WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM.
SO IT'S A GREAT WAY, WE VIEW IT AS A GREAT WAY TO PARTNER WITH CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE THESE WONDERFUL, UH, LIKE, UH, STRICT CLIMATE ACTION PLANS, HELP THEM MEET THOSE GOALS WHILE ALSO BUILDING OUT OUR FLEET OF RENEWABLES IN CONJUNCTION WITH SUPPORTING CUSTOMER PROGRAMS. OKAY.
WELL, THAT'S, IN MY MIND, THAT'S ONE POTENTIAL OBJECTION.
BUT WHILE YOU'RE STANDING THERE, UM, YOU USE THE WORD CARBON FREE MM-HMM.
UM, SO THERE IS THIS QUESTION AS TO WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WIND AND SOLAR OR IF WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT NUCLEAR AND BIO AND HYDRO, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM IS ONLY RENEWABLE.
AND RIGHT NOW, AND ALL WE FORESEE BEING IN THIS WILL BE SOLAR AND WIND.
YOU KNOW, YOU OUGHT TO BE, UM, COMMENDED BECAUSE I KIND OF BEGIN A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE TINY BIT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, BUT MY QUESTION WILL ACTUALLY REVEAL WHETHER I ACTUALLY DO OR DON'T.
SO
WHY, WHY NOT? WE'LL GET, I GUESS I, I GUESS THE BIG ISSUE OF HOW IS, HOW CREDITS WORK, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BUYING, WE'RE BUYING SOMETHING THAT CAN EXIST WHETHER WE BUY IT OR WE DON'T BUY IT.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE BUY IT IN ORDER THAT WE CAN DISCOUNT IT FROM OUR INVENTORY? AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE I THINK FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, I WANNA MAKE SURE ONE WRECK IS ABSOLUTELY EQUIVALENT TO ONE MEGAWATT.
SO THE, THE COST OF THE WRECK WOULD BE PER PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
SO, UM, THE ASPECT OF WHETHER OR NOT WE, UH, LIKE RECEIVE THE BENEFITS JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THE GRID, WE WOULDN'T, UH, THE WAY THAT WE WOULDN'T, THE WAY THE ACCOUNTING WORKS AND THE, THE, THE, THE METHODOLOGY AND THE REPORTING PROTOCOLS, YOU'D HAVE TO USE, UH, UH, ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO E GRID AVERAGE, WHICH WOULD TAKE, UM, ALL OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THAT GRID AND MAKE AN AVERAGE EMISSIONS FACTOR OFF OF IT.
YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT DIRECTLY FOR IT JUST BECAUSE, UH, APS HAD IT AT THAT ONE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM AN ACCOUNTING POINT OF VIEW, IT'S SET UP SO THAT YOU CAN'T, I'M SAYING IN REAL LIFE, IN FACT, IT IS PART OF THE GRID MIX AND WE ARE ALREADY GETTING IT.
IF, IF, I MEAN, WE, WE WOULDN'T GET IT.
I MEAN, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF IT THEN.
LIKE I, UM, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, WELL, I WAS THINKING MAYBE I, I COULD RESTATE IT IN A WAY THAT'S, BECAUSE THIS IS COMPLICATED STUFF.
SO I DO DO GUIDES WITH YOU GUYS TRYING TO HANG WITH US WHILE WE DISCUSS THIS STUFF.
UM, THE, THE GRID WILL GET CLEANER BECAUSE APS IS COMMITTED TO PUTTING THIS ON.
SO THAT'S A BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THAT FOR GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING, WHICH IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE THING, WE WOULD HAVE TO OWN THAT WRECK IN
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ORDER TO GET THE BENEFIT FROM THAT.IF WE DON'T BUY IT, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL UNTIL THEY RUN OUT.
I DO UNDERSTAND FROM AN ACCOUNTING POINT OF VIEW, YOU NEED TO DO IT.
UM, BUT THAT CLEAN ENERGY IS ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM, UM, AND WE ARE ALREADY GETTING IT.
AS YOU SAID, IF WE BUY THE WRECKS, EVERYBODY ELSE WILL GET IT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM.
UM, SO WHAT, I MEAN, I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DROP THIS FARM YOU PROCURED BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING THE REX BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN GOAL OF MEETING THAT, MEETING YOUR GOAL, YOU'RE GONNA MEET THAT GOAL REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE BUY YOUR REX OR NOT.
SO PERHAPS I COULD PHRASE IT DIFFERENTLY.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RESOURCE MIX IN 2021, LOOKING BACK, IT WAS 50% CLEAN, WHICH INCLUDES RESOURCES ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST WIND AND SOLAR.
SO NUCLEAR BIOMASS, UM, CUSTOMERS PARTICIPATING IN DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT.
AND SO THE GRID, FOR EVERYONE THAT'S CONSUMING IT WAS 50% CLEAN.
BUT THROUGH THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM, WE'RE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THOSE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS TO CUSTOMERS SUCH AS YOURSELF IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, UM, TO ACCELERATE YOUR PROGRESS TO A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE.
I TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'VE HEARD IT THREE DIFFERENT WAYS AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT.
I AM FOR THIS, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD INVEST IN IT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS.
YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WHETHER WE BUY IT OR WE DON'T, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET ACCESS TO, TO THAT GREEN ENERGY, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRODUCED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRODUCED AND THAT'S YOUR GOAL.
UM, SO THAT THE, THE, THE REASON WE'RE BUYING IT IS FOR OUR, FOR OUR ACCOUNTING OF, OF, OF OUR CAP.
SO THAT WE'RE REALLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL BEEN SET UP VERY NICELY.
I REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S BEEN SET UP.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN SET UP DIFFERENTLY, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WAS SET UP LIKE THIS.
SO SINCE WE, WE APPROVED THE CAP AND WE'RE TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR A HUNDRED PERCENT NON OR NON RENEWABLE ENERGY, UM, THE WAY THAT WE MEET OUR GOALS IS TO BUY THE, THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS.
SO I DO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.
SO IT'S JUST AN ACCOUNTING ISSUE.
CAN I JUMP BACK IN A SECOND? UM, SORRY.
YOU'RE, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU MAY BE GETTING TO IS THAT AT SOME POINT WHEN THERE IS A LOT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY BEING USED, WE MAY REACH THE POINT AT WHICH APS FEELS LIKE THEY'VE GOT THE APPROPRIATE MIX AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYMORE.
AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S NO REX, AND, AND THAT STILL IS A CONCERN.
I MEAN, YOU JUST USED ANOTHER TERM, UM, WHICH WAS CLEAN ENERGY, AND NOW THAT DOES INCLUDE NUCLEAR.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR GOAL IS BEING TO GET TO 50, WE'RE THAT WE'RE AT LACK AT 50% CLEAN ENERGY RIGHT NOW THAT DOES INCLUDE NUCLEAR.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE REACH A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON FREE, RIGHT? WHICH IS CLEAN, UH, INCLUDES NUCLEAR, WE WILL BE AT 45% RENEWABLE.
AND THAT MEANS WE WILL KEEP RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCES ON OUR GRID, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS.
SO FOR EVERY MEGAWATT HOUR OF RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT'S PRODUCED, IT CREATES A RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
IS THERE A SLIDING SCALE? ARE YOU LOOKING TO CHANGE THAT 45% TO 65% MIX AT SOME POINT? OR IS THAT JUST WHERE YOU WANNA BE? THAT'S OUR CURRENT GOAL.
OBVIOUSLY AS TIME GOES ON AND TECHNOLOGY'S DEVELOPED, THAT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SET OUT TODAY TO LOOK FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
HOW FAR INTO THE FUTURE? BY 2050 WE INTEND TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON FREE, WHICH IS THE 65, 45 AND BEYOND THAT GOAL AND THAT YEAR, THERE'S NOT A FUTURES PLAN.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET REALLY HARD TO 2050.
I JUST WANNA STEP IT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE SAYING THAT APS WANTS TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE OR CARBON FREE BY 2050.
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SO YOU BOUGHT THE WIND FARM IN NEW MEXICO.IS THERE ANY REASON WHY? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
WELL, I KNOW OF OBVIOUSLY THE DIFFERENCE OF WINDMILLS VERSUS SOLAR ON PEOPLE'S HOMES, BUT WHY WOULDN'T APS INVEST MORE INTO THE RATE PAYERS IN THE STATE TO ALLOW MORE BENEFITS FOR SOLAR ON THEIR HOMES, BUYING THAT DOWN? AND THIS WAY THE, THE RESIDENTS ARE GETTING A, A HUGE SAVINGS, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SAVINGS THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA GET FROM THIS, UH, IF AT ALL, RIGHT, WHY WOULDN'T, I MEAN, I JUST, JUST DON'T KNOW THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, INFORMATION TO GO ALONG.
WHY ALL THAT MONEY? IT MUST HAVE COST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUY A WIND FARM.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU INVEST IN THE RATE PAYERS? SO WE DO BOTH.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN, WE LOOK OUT INTO THE FUTURE TO SAY WHAT WE THINK WE'LL NEED WITH REGARDS TO CAPACITY AND ENERGY.
SO WE LOOK OUT AND WE SAY, HOW MUCH OF THAT COULD BE MET BY RENEWABLES? AND WE WILL PROCURE WIND AND SOLAR.
UM, I THINK WITHIN BRYCE'S PRESENTATION IT SHOWED WE'LL HAVE MORE SOLAR FACILITIES COMING ON NEXT YEAR AND, AND THE YEARS AFTER THAT.
SO WE HAVE A MIX OF BOTH OF THAT AS WELL AS THE ROOFTOP SOLAR.
HOWEVER, UM, THAT IS UP TO INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO INSTALL SOLAR.
AND WE CAN DO UTILITY SCALE SOLAR AT A MORE ECONOMICAL PRICE POINT THAN WHAT A RESIDENT COULD INSTALL IN THEIR HOME.
SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY MIX OF BOTH.
UM, AND WE ENCOURAGE OUR CUSTOMERS TO ADOPT SOLAR IF THAT'S THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THEM.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO HAVE A VARIETY OF RESOURCES THAT WE CAN MEET OUR CUSTOMER'S ENERGY NEEDS WITH.
I SORT OF UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M WONDERING, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL SOLAR, MORE PEOPLE WOULD SIGN ON IF THE CREDITS WERE THERE, RIGHT? AND WHEN APS CUT THE CREDITS AND THE STATE CUT THE CREDITS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CUT THE CREDITS LESS PEOPLE WANTED TO SIGN ON.
AND IT COULD COST, YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, $40,000.
SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUY INTO A SOLAR SYSTEM FOR THE HOME, IF I KNOW RIGHT.
UM, BUT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR APS AGAIN, AND YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, NOT, NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE, RESIDENTS ARE BUYING INTO THE PROGRAM.
SO, AND YOU COULD DO A CHEAPER, AND I GET THAT YOU CAN'T DO A, A SOLAR FARM HERE.
I MEAN, THE HIGH SCHOOL IS THE ONLY SOLO FAMILY ENTIRE REGION I BELIEVE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT KINDA LAND, AND WE WE'RE NOT REALLY DESERT DESERT LIKE THEY ARE DOWN THE VALLEY.
BUT IF YOU, UH, GAVE BETTER CREDITS, IT WOULD HELP YOUR RESIDENTS, OUR RESIDENTS, THEY WOULD SEE A DEFINITE BENEFIT.
AND YOU'RE GETTING THE, THE EXTRA MONEY, UH, THE EXTRA ELECTRICITY BACK INTO THE SYSTEM.
I, I COMPLETELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I WILL JUST PREFACE THIS WITH THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION ESTABLISHES WHAT WE CAN COMPENSATE CUSTOMERS FOR FOR ROOFTOP SOLAR.
UM, AND, AND I'LL ALSO ADD JUST A DETAIL THAT THIS PAST MONTH WE'VE HAD THE RECORD NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS APPLYING TO INTERCONNECT ROOFTOP SOLAR SYSTEMS. SO THAT MARKET HAS NOT SLOWED DOWN WHATSOEVER.
WE'RE, WE'RE TARGETING TO HIT RECORD NUMBERS OF CUSTOMER ADOPTION, UM, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
BUT WE DO NEED TO BALANCE ROOFTOP SOLAR WITH I GET THAT UTILITY SCALE.
BECAUSE WE SEE A LOT OF ENERGY DEMAND GROWTH, AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THE ENERGY AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED IT.
AND THEN, SO BY US DOING THIS, HOW ARE OUR RESIDENTS GONNA BE SAVING, ASIDE FROM THE, THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF THE CAR, THE CARBON CREDITS AND ALL THAT, ARE THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY SAVING AT ALL? NO.
BUT ARE WE PAYING, ARE THEY PAYING ANY MORE IN RATES? ARE WE PAYING MORE RICH? SO IT'S, IT'S A WASH WE'RE PAYING.
SO YOU GUYS WOULD BE PAYING THE $2 AND 50 CENTS A MEGAWATT HOUR MORE THAN WE WOULD NORMALLY PAY.
AND THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS WILL GO INTO AN ADJUSTER OR AN ADJUSTER ON ALL RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER BILLS.
SO WILL HELP REDUCE AND PUT DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON RATES FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS THROUGH THIS ADJUSTER ON THEIR BILLS.
SO APS IS NOT KEEPING THIS MONEY, WE'RE NOT COLLECTING IT AND, AND USING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S GOING RIGHT BACK TO CUSTOMERS.
SO IN THEORY, THE RESIDENTS OF SEDONA WOULD SEE A DECREASE IN THEIR RATES, BUT SO WOULD ALL OF APS CUSTOMERS.
CAUSE IT'S NOT COMING BACK TO SEDONA CUSTOMERS COMING BACK TO ALL CUSTOMERS INCLUDING SEDONA CUSTOMERS.
BUT YES, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN THE STANDPOINT OF FOR APS, IF EVERYBODY WENT SOLAR, THAT'S GOING OUT OF BUSINESS MODEL BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PROVIDE POWER TO PEOPLE AND THAT'S THEIR MISSION.
UH, IT'S JUST LIKE YOU HAVE TO DECIDE AS A HOMEOWNER, DO I WANNA PUT SOLAR ON MY HOUSE OR NOT? AND DO I HAVE THE FACILITY, THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO PAY FOR IT IN ONE LUMP
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SUM OR FINANCE IT, IT'S EQUIVALENT TO DO I DRILL MY OWN WELL OR DO I GET ON CITY WATER? DO I DO A SEPTIC SYSTEM OR DO I GET ON THE SEWER? SO, UH, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS CITIZENS BENEFIT BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING OUR GOAL THAT WE'VE AGREED IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITIZENS.
AND I, I'M NOT TAKING IT AWAY FROM THAT, BUT IT'S MY QUESTION, MY CONCERN THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ASKING US AS OUR, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, HOW ARE THEY SAVING BY US DOING THIS? AND I'M SORT OF GETTING IT A LITTLE BIT.
AND I ALWAYS HAVE ALICIA TO, TO HELP ME THERE, BUT IN THE, AS WELL AS THE TEAM.
BUT THERE, THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA BE ASKING US HOW ARE THEY SAVING BY US CONTRIBUTING INTO THIS? AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAR ENOUGH.
FOR US, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR THE RESIDENTS.
CAN I ASK THAT QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY? PLEASE.
CAUSE YOU, YOU SAID THAT BEFORE AS WELL.
SO I WANNA, I WANNA ZERO IN ON THIS, PLEASE.
SO IT WILL, THE MONEY THAT COMES IN THROUGH THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM WILL COME BACK IN AND IT WILL DIRECTLY REDUCE THE BUDGET OF WHAT WE CALL THE RES BUDGET.
IT'S THE RENEWABLE ENERGY, IT'S THE COST FOR OUR RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS FOR CUSTOMERS.
SO IT REDUCES THAT BUDGET, WHICH IS AN ADJUSTER ON CUSTOMER BILLS.
SO IT'S GOING TO DIRECTLY REDUCE A LINE ITEM ON CUSTOMER'S BILLS.
MAY I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, SARAH? THEY WILL ACTUALLY SEE THAT ADJUSTER ON THEIR BILL AND BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MUCH THEIR, SO THEIR BILL WOULD BE $25 AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A CREDIT FOR TWO 50, BRINGING THEM DOWN TO A 2250 BILL.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT JUST STAYING THERE AS A PHANTOM CREDIT THAT AND THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ASK FOR AN INCREASE AFTER BECAUSE THAT CREDIT APPLIES.
I JUST, AGAIN, WANNA BE SPECIFIC ON THIS.
AND IT WON'T BE A DIRECT, YOU GUYS ARE PAYING $2 AND 50 CENTS A MEGAWATT HOUR A CUSTOMER NO, I JUST USE THAT RANDOM THOUGH.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE RECOVER VARIOUS COSTS THROUGH CUSTOMER BILLS.
AND SO THIS ADJUSTER COVERS RENEWABLE ENERGY RELATED PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE, THE NET METERING PROGRAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT, COST OF THAT.
SO THERE'S AN OVERALL BUDGET THAT IS RECOVERED VIA CUSTOMER BILLS THROUGH THIS LINE ITEM ADJUSTER.
AND SO THE REVENUE FROM GREEN POWER PARTNERS WILL GO TO REDUCE THAT BUDGET.
SO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE TO RECOVER FROM OUR CUSTOMERS, HER QUESTION DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION REALLY IS, IF I HAVE A BILL, IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS, IT SAYS MY BILL'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND THEN IT HAS, UM, AN ADJUSTMENT.
IS THAT GONNA BE A NEGATIVE OFF OF THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS? OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE A NOTATION OF, OF AN ADJUSTMENT? THAT'S, DO YOU UNDERST UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? I DO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AND I BELIEVE THE TERM ADJUSTER MIGHT BE WHAT IS, UH, CAUSING THE DISCONNECT.
IT IS A LINE ITEM ON A CUSTOMER'S BILL AND IT WILL NOT NECESSARILY MAKE THE LINE ITEM BECOME NEGATIVE.
IF MY BILL IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN THERE'S A LINE ITEM ADJUSTER, DOES THAT MEAN THAT I'M NOT PAYING A HUNDRED DOLLARS, I'M PAYING A HUNDRED MINUS THE LINE ITEM ADJUSTMENT? IT'S OKAY.
SO IT'S, SO IT REDUCES THAT LINE ITEM WILL BE LOWER, THEREFORE REDUCING IT.
YES, IT REDUCES, BUT I DON'T WANNA GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE'LL BE A CREDIT ON THE CUSTOMER'S BILL.
THE QUESTION WAS DOES IT ACTUALLY REDUCE SHOW UP AS A REDUCTION ON THEIR REAL, WHAT THEY OWE YOU? AND YOUR ANSWER WAS YES.
SO SCOTT, THERE'S YOUR ANSWER.
THAT'S, THAT'S CAPTURE THAT ONE, RIGHT? AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
SEVEN, ARE WE TALKING ON RATE PAYERS IN THE SAVINGS? ARE WE TALKING PENNIES? A FEW DOLLARS.
I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING TENS OF DOLLARS.
BUT PEOPLE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AND I, I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE ANSWERS FOR PEOPLE TO, BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH FOR US TO, OR AT LEAST ME TO UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BUT OTHER PEOPLE WON'T.
SO I WANNA KNOW THAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THIS, YOU MAY SAVE $2 AND 50 CENTS AS A NUMBER, NOT TO EQUATE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE SAME FOR THE CITY PAYING IN.
BUT WHAT DO WE, ON AVERAGE, WHAT COULD SOMEONE EXPECT TO SAVE PENNIES OR A DOLLAR OR TWO? I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME THAT I COULD SPEAK TO.
I I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT WOULD BE A ROUNDING ERROR BE OF NOTHING.
BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, THE MONEY WE'RE SAVING THEM IF WE DIDN'T PAY THE TWO 50 UPCHARGE
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EXACTLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHARE IN THE COST OF THE TOTAL SPREAD ANYWAY.AND YET OVER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS, IT, IT BECOMES A KNIT, I MEAN THE BENEFIT IS THE CLIMATE CHANGE ADDRESSING THAT THE CITIZENS ARE GETTING.
I, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT PEOPLE LOOKING TO BOTTOM LINE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S THE QUESTION WE'RE GONNA BE ASKED IF I MAY ASK SARAH CLARIFYING QUESTION.
THE MORE PEOPLE WHO JOIN THE GREEN POWER PROGRAM, THE MORE OF AN ADJUSTMENT YOU'LL SEE ON YOUR BILLS.
THE MORE PEOPLE ARE MORE CITIES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS, THE MORE CUSTOMERS.
SO IT CAN BE CITIES OR, UH, LARGE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS.
AND YES, THAT, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
THE MORE CUSTOMERS WE HAVE TO, THAT'S WHY WE PARTICIPATING, THE MORE OF A REDUCTION THERE WOULD BE.
THAT'S WHY THE LEADERSHIP ASPECT OF THIS REQUEST IS SO IMPORTANT.
WE'RE DEMONSTRATING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING OUT AND ASKING OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESS OWNERS TO DO THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT WILLING TO DO OURSELVES.
AND ALSO BY A LARGE ORGANIZATION SUCH AS CITY OF SEDONA, UH, BEING ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO ENTER THIS PROGRAM.
I THINK CITY OF FLAGSTAFF BEAT US TO IT, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, THAT DEMONSTRATES TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES THAT HEY, THIS MIGHT BE A LEGIT PROGRAM.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED TOO.
SO THAT'S WHY, UM, THAT LEADERSHIP ASPECT OF IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU FOR, UH, DECISION ON THIS.
I I, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR OWN BILL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE FORTY TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX CONSUME MEGAWATTS AND WE'RE PAYING $12,000, ROUGHLY A TWO 50 MEGAWATT.
WE'RE TALKING OUR SAVINGS AT 2 82, BUT WE'RE PAYING TWO 50.
SO IT'S JUST, WE'RE KIND OF JUST PAYING OURSELVES AND WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS.
YOU ON THAT? CAN I TAKE YOU BACK? WAS IS WHAT HE SAYS.
UH, CAN I TAKE YOU BACK TO YOUR, UH, COMMENT ABOUT OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY RECS THAT YOU SAID ARE ARE ABOUT SIX WHAT, SIX 50 REC NOW, OR SOME $6 AND SOMETHING COMPARED TO THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY CHEAPER.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S A, A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE, UH, AMOUNTS? UH, THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE AMOUNTS WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY WHERE THEY'RE SOURCING THEM, UH, FROM AND REQUIREMENTS FOR IT.
SO THE UNBUNDLED RES END UP GOING INTO, UH, VARIOUS MARKETPLACES THROUGH LIKE GREENY ELIGIBLE, UH, ACCOMMODATION, WHATNOT.
AND THEN YOU'RE, IT'S A DIRECT DRIVER ON SOMEBODY PURCHASING IT WITHIN THAT MARKET ON WHAT THAT, UH, WRECK GOES FOR.
SO THIS IS A SET PRICE AT THAT TWO 50 FROM THE UTILITY PROVIDER VERSUS THE UNBUNDLED REC MARKET WOULD HAVE FLUCTUATIONS WITHIN THE PRICES BASED OFF OF THE, THE DEMAND THAT YOU HAVE RESPECTIVE AGENCIES OR WHATNOT TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN IT.
UH, THE MORE DEMAND IN THERE FOR THE REC DRIVES UP THE COST OF THAT RESPECTIVE REC.
UH, WHICH AS OF AUGUST OF LAST YEAR WAS OVER $6 PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
SO BASICALLY BECAUSE APS HAS ALL CUSTOMERS AND HAS CONTACT WITH THEM ALREADY AND THEY CAN PUT THIS OUT, UM, THEY CAN ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET A, A LARGE, UH, A LARGER BUNDLE BACK THAN A THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT HAS TO JUST GO AND MARKET TO THE WHOLE WORLD OR TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY OR WHATEVER.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY, UH, WOULD BE LOOKING AT IT WHERE, UM, IF WE HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN AN UNBUNDLED REC MARKET, YOU MIGHT BE GOING UP AGAINST LARGE DATA CENTERS OR CORPORATIONS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, EXPAND A MUCH LARGER COST AND IT'D BE AS, UH, AS, UH, COUNSELOR LAMPKIN SAID KIND OF LIKE A ROUNDING ERROR WITHIN THEIR OPERATIONS AT THAT $6 AND 60, UH, CENTS PER MEGAWATT HOUR, VERSUS US BEING ABLE TO SECURE, UH, ESSENTIALLY GUARANTEED RATE FOR LEAST THAT YEAR AT THAT TWO 50 VERSUS HAVING TO, UH, COMPETE WITHIN LARGER CORPORATIONS AT AN UNBUNDLED REC MARKET.
SO WE JUST GOT, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ANSWER FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR PUBLIC, WHICH IS THAT, UH, WHAT DID THEY'RE SAVING? WELL, WE'RE GETTING MEETING OUR CAP AND WE'RE GETTING IT FOR FOUR BUCKS A MEGAWATT CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE COULD ON THE OPEN MARKET.
SO I HAVE QUESTION WHICH, SO THIS IS FOR THE ONE YEAR TERM.
UM, WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THAT YEAR? WOULD IT, IS THERE A CLAUSE FOR AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL? DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL? IS THIS AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE YEAR? UH, THAT WOULD, UH, WE COULD RENEW IT JUST BASED OFF OF THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.
IF, UH, WITHIN THAT AND TRANSFERRED TO, UM, THE, IDEALLY THE BUDGET LINE, I WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO TRANSFER TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, OUTSIDE OF, CUZ THEY WOULD GO DIRECTLY INTO UTILITY, UH, COSTS THERE.
UM, BUT IF IT WAS, UM, THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN AT THE, AT THE END OF THAT YEAR TERM, UH, WE'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO SO AT THAT TIME.
BUT IF THERE WERE A REASON THAT IT NEEDED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL STAFF WOULD IDENTIFY THAT AND BRING IT FORWARD ANYWAY, SO.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, OH, I'M SORRY, HOLLY.
I, I JUST IS THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM, RIGHT? DID IT REPLACE SOMETHING THAT EXISTED? NO,
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IT DID NOT REPLACE ANYTHING.WE HAVE AN EXISTING GREEN CHOICE PROGRAM THAT IS VERY SIMILAR, HOWEVER, THAT UTILIZES LEGACY, UH, RENEWABLE RESOURCES.
AND WE HEARD FROM OUR CUSTOMERS THAT THERE IS A NEED AND A WANT FOR NEW RENEWABLE RESOURCES.
AND SO WE DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM IN CONJUNCTION WITH CUSTOMER FEEDBACK TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.
BUT DID YOU SAY EARLIER THAT THIS PROGRAM'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO LARGER CUSTOMERS? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO AN INDIVIDUAL, A RESIDENT WOULD, COULD NOT PARTICIPATE AND THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO USE THE OTHER PROGRAM? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND CUT OFF THE POINT THOUGH, I GUESS, CUZ I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS TOO.
YOU PULL A MIC OVER IN FRONT OF YOU, HOLLY, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET A CREDIT FOR SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY GETTING A CREDIT FOR.
WELL, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING A CREDIT IN THE UNIVERSAL SENSE YOU'RE GETTING, BUT WHO ADMINISTER CREDITS? I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? I BELIEVE FOR THIS PROGRAM IT WOULD BE THE ACC, CORRECT.
WE HAVE THE RECORDS OF ALL OF THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS THAT ARE CREATED.
WE HAVE OUR OWN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO WE TRACK THEIR RENEW THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS, AND THEN WHEN CUSTOMERS PARTICIPATE, WE, WE RETIRE THOSE RECS ON THEIR BEHALF.
AND THAT GETS REPORTED TO THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION WHO OVERSEES THE PROCESS.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SAY, SEDONA, YOU'RE MEETING YOUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT A REC IS FOR OUR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES AND WHAT ADDING RENEWABLE ENERGIES OR CLEAN ENERGIES TO THE APS GRID WILL DO TO MAKE IT CLEANER FOR AN EMISSION STANDPOINT.
SO THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE, WE'D BE GETTING A CLEANER GRID MIX EVENTUALLY, RIGHT? AS THEY ADD IN MORE ON, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING THE CREDIT FOR ACTUALLY GOING OUT OURSELVES AND COMMITTING TO ONLY PURCHASING 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY.
DOES, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND THEN FOR THE ACCOUNTING PURPOSES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO IN-HOUSE.
BRYCE DOES ALL OF OUR GREENHOUSE GALS ACCOUNTING HIMSELF.
UM, SO HE ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE RES EVERY YEAR WHENEVER HE DOES THE UPDATES, UM, OVERSEEN BY APS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE THAT GAVE US THE REX.
BUT THERE WOULD BE NO OTHER AGENCY OR ENTITY THAT WOULD BE, UM, TRACKING THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR GOALS OR EVEN REALLY, THEY WOULD ONLY DO IT FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES AND IT, THERE WOULD BE NO, NO OTHER OVERSIGHT IN THAT WAY.
THERE'S A, A CHECK AND BALANCE IN THE SENSE OF APS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REX FOR GIVING US REX CREDIT AND RETIRING THEM ON YOUR BEHALF.
AND THAT WOULD BE REPORTED TO US IN ANY OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATES THAT WE GET.
SO WE'LL BE IN THE KNOW AND ONGOING MATTER THAT TRACEABLE AND WELL, THAT WOULD BE REALLY DOWN IN THE WEEDS.
WE DO NOT PRESENT DATA THAT, THAT DETAILED TO YOU AT THIS POINT.
BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY EXPLORE AT OUR, UM, NEXT BUDGET SESSION.
UM, THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY START PROVIDING MORE DETAILED INFORMATION IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE RENEWABLES.
I MEAN ABOUT RENEWING THE CONTRACT, NOT ABOUT THE RENEWABLES.
CAN I JUST, CAN I JUST FINISH FOR A SECOND? OF COURSE.
CAUSE I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND.
SO, YOU KNOW, METRICS ARE IMPORTANT TO, AND THEY HAVE TO BE REAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE DOING AND WITH SOME KIND OF VALIDATION, RIGHT? VALIDATION IN THE SENSE THAT WE CAN TRACK ALL OF THIS.
WE JUST DON'T PRESENT ALL THOSE DETAILS BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY, VERY TECHNICAL AND VERY, UM, ARCANE.
WELL, PEOPLE LIKE US ENJOY THAT KIND OF WORK, BUT, UM, YOU SHOW THAT THOSE SCREENS TO ANYBODY ELSE AND THEIR EYES WILL CROSS AND THEY'LL RUN OUT OF THE ROOM.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, UM, TRY TO JUST GIVE YOU THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
UM, BUT IF YOU, IF COUNCIL DESIRES MORE, WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT.
WELL, I JUST THINK THAT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN TRYING IN THE WHOLE CLIMATE ENVIRONMENT WOULD BE INTERESTED.
SO IF, IF THEY EXISTED, THEY WOULD BE PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR ANYBODY TO ACCESS MM-HMM.
AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHO DO UNDERSTAND IT AT THAT LEVEL WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION.
ALL OUR RESIDENT HAS TO DO IS CONTACT OUR OFFICE, AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT THEN, THEN WE'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR QUESTIONS AND REQUEST.
UM, IF NOT, IF THERE'S A, A LARGER DESIRE BY A LARGER NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO ADD IT INTO
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ONE OF OUR GREENHOUSE GAS, UH, ACCOUNTING REPORTS THAT ARE DONE WITH THE UPDATES.UM, WITH THE RENEW, HOW DID, SO DID APS SELECT THIS WONDERFUL WIND FARM FOR US? OR DID YOU SELECT IT? HOW ARE, SO IF WE, IF WE RENEW IT, DO WE JUST GO WITH THE WIND FARM OR ARE SOME OTHER THINGS, DIFFERENT PRICES? I GUESS I DON'T ACTUALLY WANNA KNOW THAT
THAT IS MICROMANAGEMENT TO A T I JUST WANT TO, ON A BIGGER PICTURE, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, AS I IMPLIED EARLIER, THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SET UP.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN, THERE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT WE BUY THE REX IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, TO CLAIM CLEAN ENERGY THAT'S IN THE MIX IN OUR PLAN.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SET UP THAT WAY, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WAS SET UP THIS WAY.
AND SO IF WE WANNA BE ABLE TO CLAIM THE REDUCTION, WE HAVE TO PLEA BY THEIR RULES.
AND THEIR RULES IS YOU HAVE TO BUY THE REX IN ORDER TO GET IT THE WRITE OFF OF YOUR, OF YOUR MISSIONS.
AND SO I'M READY FOR A MOTION, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.
NO, THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION ANYWAY POSSIBLE.
AM I, THERE IS A MOTION FOR THAT? YES, THERE IS.
THERE IS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE DONE YET.
THE TWO 50 I NOTICED IN THE CONTRACT COUNCIL WILLIAMSON BROUGHT THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.
IT SEEMS TO BE A ONE YEAR RENEWABLE.
IF NOBODY CANCELS, IT CONTINUES.
SO WE WOULD'VE TO TAKE ACTION TO CANCEL IT, OTHERWISE IT RENEWS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
IF I READ THE CONTRACT CORRECTLY, THE $2 AND 50 CENTS PER MEGAWATT IS IN THERE.
DOES THAT GO UP OR DOES THAT STAY FIXED EVERY YEAR AT TWO 50, EVEN THOUGH I'M ASSUMING THERE WILL BE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ELECTRICITY WE USE ON A REGULAR BASIS ANYWAY, AND THOSE RATES COULD GO UP.
BUT DOES THAT TWO 50 STAY FIXED? YES.
SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE IN THIS PROGRAM AND YOU, YOU SIGN IN, NOW YOUR, YOUR $2 AND 50 CENTS PRICE IS LOCKED IN FOR THE DURATION OF YOUR, YOUR CONTRACT WITH US.
UM, IN FUTURE PROCUREMENTS, WE, WE WILL DO ADDITIONAL BENCHMARKING AND REEVALUATE THE PRICING.
SO WE MAY SEE PRICES GO UP IN THE FUTURE, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE LOCKED IN NOW, YOUR PRICE WILL NOT CHANGE.
THE ONE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ADJUSTMENT EARLIER, DOES THAT ADJUSTMENT GO ON EVERY CUSTOMER'S BILL OR JUST THE PEOPLE IN THE GREEN POWER PROGRAM? IT'S ON ALL CUSTOMERS BILLS.
I'M GONNA JUST GO BACK TO, UH, THE CUSTOMERS AGAIN AND THEY'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW, I THINK, AND I, YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT, YOU, THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION.
WHAT IS THIS GONNA COST THE CITY, UH, FROM OUR BUDGET TO, TO BUY INTO THIS PER YEAR, 10,000? UH, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT OFF OF THIS BUDGET, UM, WE'D BE LOOKING AT AROUND $10,000 OR SO, UM, FOR THE YEAR DURATION, UM, FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UH, FOR THAT, WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR GREENHOUSE GAS REPORTING PROTOCOLS.
UM, THE ESTIMATED COST WAS, ARE UNDER, UH, 10,000 FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE YEARS.
BUT IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS SUCH AS BREWER ROAD AND THE LIKE, ARE WITHIN THE CITY'S PURVIEW.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THE COSTS, UH, IS RIGHT AROUND 10,000 FOR THE YEAR, UM, FOR IT.
SO IS IT IMPRACTICAL FOR US TO PUT SOLAR ON ALL OUR ROOFS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
COUNSELOR PLUG, BRYCE ACTUALLY JUST LED A PROJECT WHERE THE ASU INDUSTRIAL SITE ASSESSMENT CENTER CAME UP AND THEY DID AN ASSESSMENT ON THE CITY HALL COMPLEX HERE, AS WELL AS OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THE FINAL VERSION OF THAT REPORT, I BELIEVE, THIS WEEK.
UM, SO HE'S GONNA GO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE TIME TO SIT DOWN AND GO OVER THAT REPORT AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH LARRY AND ROXANNE TO COME UP WITH SOME POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, WHAT I'LL CALL RUMORS IN THE PAST, THE, THE, THE ROOF HERE AT CITY HALL WOULDN'T SUPPORT SOLAR FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UH, SINCE I'VE HEARD THAT THAT'S CHANGED.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED INTO SPECIFICALLY PUTTING SOLAR ON CITY HALL BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS REPORT FROM ASU.
CAN YOU GIVE US A PREVIEW? UH, YEAH.
SO ON MAY 19TH OF, OF THIS YEAR, UM, ASU CAME OUT FOR A SITE VISIT AT CITY HALL IN THE WASTEWATER COMPLEX.
UH, THE GOAL, THEY ARE SPONSORED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.
UM, AND THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT WAS TO ASSESS DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS OR POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO HELP REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION WITHIN
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CITY COMPLEXES.AND IT'S ANYTHING FROM, UH, SOLAR DRYING BEDS TO, UM, WINDOW FILM TENTS AND THE LIKE.
TO HELP US GET TO THAT MARK, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE, UH, OR I HAVE A SLIDE DEDICATED TO THAT, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION.
AFTER THIS I'D, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COVER.
IS THERE ANY, UH, THOUGHTS FOR APS TO BOOST UP RESIDENTIAL SOLAR INCENTIVES TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO DO IT? ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE? ANY PLANS? UM, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BECAUSE THE COMMISSION IS THE ONE THAT DETERMINES THE RATES THAT WE INCLUDED.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, RECENTLY PASSED A, A BILL THAT WOULD HELP WITH SOME TAX CREDITS.
MAYOR, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DOES APS HAVE? SO, I KNOW WE HAVE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, UM, AND THE TOTAL CUSTOMER COUNT, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON.
SO FOR OUR $10,000 IN AN ADJUSTMENT FOR A MILLION PEOPLE WOULD BE ABOUT A PENNY PER YEAR.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THERE'S A BIG BENEFIT FOR ANYONE WONDER WHAT THAT WAS? THANK YOU FOR THAT CALCULATION.
I WILL ADD, WE DO HAVE OTHER CUSTOMERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.
SO IT WILL BE MORE THAN JUST YOUR CONTRIBUTION THAT WILL HAVE, THIS REDUCES THE BENEFIT.
HOW MANY CUSTOMERS ARE IN THE PROGRAM AT THIS MOMENT? AT THIS MOMENT, THERE'S ONE.
SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT SEDONA BECOMES OUR SECOND ENROLLED CUSTOMER.
WE DID TRY VERY HARD TO BEAT THEM TO THIS, BUT THEY, THEY BEAT US ON THIS ONE.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION SO THAT WE DON'T WIND UP BEING NUMBER THREE OR FOUR.
WE'VE GOT TIME TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION TO BE, HAD WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ARE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, WELL, I HAVE ON THREE B, BUT NOT THREE A.
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DECIDE IF IT'S GOING TO BE A ONE YEAR OR, OR NO? THE PROPOSAL IS JUST HERE.
SO CAN I JUST ASK IF ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WANTS TO COMMENT ON THIS, PLEASE? PEGGY'S JOURNEY
PEGGY, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD WHEN YOU FINISH.
WELL, SHE CAN FILL OUT A CARD LATER.
PEGGY, SHE'S ALREADY FILLED OUT A CARD, SO, OKAY.
PEGGY CHICKEN FOR THE OTHER ITEMS. SEDONA.
UM, BOY, IT IS CONFUSING AND I TOTALLY ADMIRE THE TEAM AND, AND OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM APS AND THE COUNCIL FOR, FOR DIVING IN.
YOU CAN LOOK AT MY PAPER, I'M LIKE ALL OVER THE PLACE WRITING THINGS, JUST, UM, FEELING REALLY, UH, ON ONE LEVEL WHERE THERE HAS TO BE KIND OF A LEVEL OF TRUST THAT IN THIS TRANSITION PERIOD THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO MOVE TOWARDS MORE RENEWABLES, THAT WE HAVE A STRONG, A STRONG REGULATORY AGENCY IN THE, UH, DOWN IN PHOENIX
SO, UM, APS IS REGULATED AND BY THE, UH, CORPORATION COMMISSION AND, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE TRUST IN THAT ENTITY TO, FOR THE HONESTY AND INTEGRITY OF THE PROGRAM.
I LOOK AT THIS AS, UH, APS IN INVESTING IN A CLEANER FUTURE.
UM, I SEE THIS IN COMPARISON TO SAY S R P, WHICH WANTS TO, UM, PUT IN A GAS FIRED PLANT DOWN BY KAGE, ARIZONA.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF TRYING TO GET THE CORPORATION COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS EXPANSION OF A GAS FIRED PLANT.
SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE SEDONA, UH, SUPPORT OUR, UH, APS HERE AND GO WITH, UM, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM AND GET OTHER ENTITIES TO ALSO JOIN IN ON IT.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF A QUIRKY, BUMPY ROAD DOING THE TRANSITION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY, WHAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS LIKE COMMUNITY BASED AGRICULTURE, YOU KNOW? SO YOU GOT LIKE SOMEBODY WHO PAYS A, UH, YOU PAY A FARMER AND YOU GET THE BOX OF VEGETABLES, UM, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GROW THE VEGETABLES YOURSELF.
SO YOU ARE, YOU ARE GOING OUT A LITTLE BIT ON THE LIMB THAT THE FARMER'S ACTUALLY GONNA PRODUCE THE VEGETABLES AND DELIVER VEGETABLES THAT YOU'LL WANT TO EAT.
SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, APS IS KIND OF LIKE THAT.
MAYBE THIS ANALOGY ISN'T WORKING.
IT, I FEEL LIKE IT, IT MADE IT MORE LIKE I WOULD BUY INTO IT BECAUSE I WANNA SEE THIS TRANSITION AND I WANNA SEE IF WE HAVE GOOD OVERSIGHT WITH OUR, WITH OUR CORPORATION COMMISSION,
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THEN WE CAN HAVE INTEGRITY WITH THE SYSTEM AND WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.THAT IN THE LONG RUN BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR APS ACTUALLY.
UH, SO IF WE'RE ONLY THE SECOND CUSTOMER IN THIS FARM IS PRIMARILY FOR US.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO THE FARM WILL SERVE MANY CUSTOMERS ONCE, ONCE THEY'RE ENROLLED.
I MOVED TO APPROVE THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS AGREEMENT WITH APS TO PROCURE A GREEN POWER FOR 100% OF APPLICABLE CITY USAGE.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOVE BY COUNCILOR THOMPSON SECOND BY COUNCIL CANELLA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE.
AND, UH, AND, UM, PEGGY, I MADE A NOTE ON YOUR CARD THAT YOU SPOKE ON BOTH ITEMS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT ANOTHER CARD.
[3.b. AB 2740 Discussion/possible direction regarding an update on progress made on the Climate Action Plan.]
SO WE'RE MOVING TO ITEM B, WHICH IS AB 27 40.DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS MADE ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING FROM HOME.
I'M THE SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER HERE AT CITY OF SEDONA.
WHILE THE TITLE OF THIS AB IS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, WE WANTED TO, UM, TRY TO PROVIDE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OF OUR ENTIRE PROGRAM AND THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT GUIDE OUR PROGRAMMING.
AS WELL AS, UM, THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FALL UNDER THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN ARE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
SO THIS, UM, THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE OUR LAST PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF REMINDERS.
UM, AS I'VE SAID, THIS WILL BE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION, BUT WE'VE ALSO MADE GREAT STRIDES TO LINK ALL OF THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU ON OUR PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES BACK TO EITHER THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OR THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE LINKS DIRECTLY IN EACH SLIDE.
I HAVE IT CIRCLED HERE ON THE, THE SCREEN FOR US WHERE IT'S DIRECTED RIGHT BACK TO WHAT SECTOR, WHAT CATEGORY IT FALLS INTO FOR THAT ACTION ITEM IN THE CAP.
SOME REALLY EXCITING NEWS TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS IS THAT, UM, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE'VE MET, WE'VE HIRED TWO NEW TEAM MEMBERS AND THEY ARE WONDERFUL AND I'M SO THANKFUL THAT THEY'RE HERE.
UM, FIRST WE HAVE ZACH SCHWARTZ, WHO IS SITTING RIGHT HERE.
UM, HE IS OUR NEW SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR WHO REPLACED GABE.
HE COMES TO US FROM UC, BOULDER.
AND BEFORE THAT HE HAD, UM, STUDIES IN GEOLOGY AND GEOGRAPHY FROM WEST CHESTER UNIVERSITY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
OUR OTHER RECENT ADDITION IS OUR AMERICORPS VISTA OWEN KS LAKE, WHO HELLS FROM CANADA, ACTUALLY.
SO BRINGS A LITTLE BIT OF DIVERSIFICATION TO OUR TEAM IN THAT WAY.
UM, HE STARTED ON AUGUST 15TH AND WE HAVE HIM FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, UH, BEFORE HE JOKE GOES ON HIS NEXT JOURNEY.
UM, HIS BACKGROUND IS EARTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES, AND HE WILL BE PRESENTING ON LIFECYCLE ASSESSMENTS FOR YOU TODAY.
UM, THAT IS A SKILL THAT IS WELL DESIRED IN THE SUSTAINABILITY PROFESSIONAL FIELD, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT HE BROUGHT IT TO OUR TEAM UNTIL HE, HE OFFERED IT TO US A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM PRESENT ON THAT TODAY.
AND I ALSO HAVE ZACH, UM, PRESENT FOR HIS VERY FIRST TIME TO SHOW YOU, UM, THE PROJECTS THAT HE'S BEEN WORKING ON AS WELL.
SO, AGAIN, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY WHO MAYBE HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWING THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS JOURNEY HERE AT CITY OF SEDONA, THESE ARE OUR TWO FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT GUIDE OUR PROGRAMMING.
THE FIRST IS, UM, THE SEDONA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
THIS WAS JUST ADOPTED IN JULY OF 2021, SO A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW.
UM, THE GOAL THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PLAN IS TO, TO REDUCE COMMUNITYWIDE EMISSIONS BY 50% BY 2030.
NOW, LATER ON IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE'LL HAVE GRAPHICS TO SHOW YOU WHAT 50% OF OUR 2018 BASELINE IS AND WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY, AND RELEVANCE TO ACHIEVING THAT GOAL.
UM, OTHER GOALS OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ARE TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, ENHANCE COMMUNITY MOBILITY THROUGH OUR TRANSIT AND, UH, SIM PROJECTS AS WELL AS OUR SHARED USE PATHS.
INCREASE RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES LIKE WE JUST DID.
AND INCREASED WASTE DIVERSION FOR OUR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
THIS IS BASICALLY OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED UPON BY THE CITY OF SEDONA FOR OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
SO, PRIMARY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THIS PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2020, UM, ARE TO BE ZERO WASTE, BE CARBON NEUTRAL, AND
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BE A HEALTHY WORKPLACE.UM, IN BETWEEN THESE TWO PLANS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY PRESCRIBED BY THESE PLANS, BY THE, THE ACTION ITEMS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIXES, BUT WE DO TRY TO CONSIDER ALL INITIATIVES THAT WE PURSUE BASED ON DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP, UM, BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS WELL AS THE SPIRIT OF THESE PLANS.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE, THE REAL FUN STUFF RIGHT NOW.
AND SO ANOTHER FOUNDATIONAL ITEM OF OUR PROGRAM IS OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES.
UH, THE GOAL THAT WAS SET OF REDUCING COMMUNITY WIDE EMISSIONS BY 50% BY 2030 IS ACTUALLY BASED ON, UH, BENCHMARKING THAT HAPPENED IN 2018 TO CALCULATE ALL OF THE GREENHOUSE GASES ASSOCIATED WITH NOT ONLY MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY EMISSIONS.
THESE COMMUNITY MISSIONS ARE RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY USE, BUSINESS, UH, ELECTRICITY USE, UH, FUEL CONSUMPTION FROM TRANSPORTATION, THE LIST GOES ON.
BUT BRYCE WILL BE GIVING US A VERY DETAILED LIST OF WHAT THE INS AND OUTS ARE ON THESE TWO DIFFERENT INVENTORIES THAT WE, UM, UPDATE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BRYCE AND HE'S GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE WORK THAT HE'S BEEN DOING, UM, FOR THE LAST YEAR THAT HE'S BEEN HERE AT CITY OF SEDONA.
SO, UH, YOU GUYS ARE, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ARE EXCITED TO SEE MORE ABOUT THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND THE LIGHT.
UH, SO THIS IS KIND OF AN EXPANSION OF, UH, WHAT WE KIND OF PRESENTED ON IN FEBRUARY.
AND, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER, ANOTHER YEAR, THE 2021 REPORTING YEAR, WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME DATA AND ESTIMATIONS THERE.
SO, UH, WE LOOKED AT COMMUNITY AND MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO, UH, ENACT THIS PLAN, WE'RE GONNA, UH, TRY TO GET RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN.
AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS ARE AND TRY TO EXPAND ON THAT AND, UH, FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS IN THE LIKE.
UH, AND SO FOR, UM, THE 2020 AND THE 2021 INVENTORY IS EXPANDED ON 2018 CALCULATIONS IN PARTICULAR, UH, WATER DELIVERY AND THE EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED THAT WAS ADDED, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO, BETWEEN, UH, 2018 AND 2020.
UH, AND THEN IT CONTINUED ON IN 2021 HERE.
SO WE HAVE, UH, LO WE HAVE MORE ABILITY TO ACCURATELY FIND HIGH EMISSIONS LOCATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO RESPECTIVE DATA.
WE HAVE THE UTILITY BILLS, WE HAVE THE FLEET COM, UH, FLEET GASOLINE PURCHASES AND THE LIKES.
SO WE HAVE, UH, MORE NUANCE IN CONTROL WITHIN THOSE LOCATIONS.
AND SO WE, UH, UTILIZED, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARD PROTOCOLS, UH, CONFERRED WITH, UM, A SECONDARY OR POSTGRADUATE, UH, PROFESSORS AT NEU AND A ASU TO REVIEW, UH, METHODOLOGIES AND CALCULATIONS.
AS WELL AS, UM, THE EPA HAS A FEW DIFFERENT TOOLS FOR COMMUNITY INVENTORIES AND THE LIKE THAT WE UTILIZE AS WELL AS A, UH, THIRD PARTY PLATFORM, UH, THROUGH ILEY CALLED CLEARPATH.
UH, THE ILEY CLEAR PATH, UH, IS ESSENTIALLY JUST IN, UH, A, UM, ACCOUNTING TOOL THAT WE USE AS A DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT OUR, UH, EMISSIONS METHODOLOGY AND DATA COLLECTION IS RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO CONFER ON AND SEE WHAT THE CHANGES MIGHT BE, UH, BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT REPORTING PROTOCOLS.
UH, SO THIS, CAN I JUST INTERRUPT FOR ONE QUICK QUESTION? AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT, BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELEY REPORTING THAT YOU JUST USE THAT FOR REPORTING.
ARE WE BELONGING TO ANY OF YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR THAT, OR WE PAYING INTO THAT AT ALL? OR WHAT, WHAT THAT MEAN EXACTLY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE ONLY THING, UH, THAT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH ON ILEY IS THE CLEAR PLA PLATFORM PLATFORM, UH, THAT HAS A, UH, YEARLY, UM, FEE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND IT'S STRICTLY JUST FOR GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING, UH, POLICY.
THERE IS, UH, NO, UH, MEMBERSHIP, UH, CONNECTION ON LIKE AGENDAS OR ANY, UH, SORT OF PROTOCOLS OR WHATNOT THROUGH IT IS JUST STRICTLY AS A, UH, A MISSIONS CALCULATION TOOL THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AS LIKE A SECONDARY CHECK ON OUR CALCULATIONS.
SO SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER KIND OF SCIENTIFIC SUBSCRIPTION THAT YOU WOULD BUY INTO TO HELP YOU DO YOUR, YOUR WORK EACH DAY.
UH, AND SO I'LL UH, TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS SLIDE, UH, QUICKLY.
CAUSE THIS IS, UH, A SLIDE THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE, UH, GPP.
UH, SO JUST QUICKLY OVER THE SCOPE ONE, THAT'S OUR DIRECT EMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR FLEET, UH, NATURAL GAS PRODUCTION AND LIKE SCOPE TWO PURCHASE ELECTRICITY AND SCOPE THREE IS, UH, PREDOMINANTLY OUR FLEET OR, UH, EMPLOYEE COMMUTING, I SHOULD SAY.
AND SOLID WASTE, UH, KIND OF FALLS WITHIN THAT SCOPE THREE, UH, AS A WHOLE FOR 2021.
UH, SCOPE TWO WAS, UH, OUR PURCHASE ELECTRICITY IS THAT SOURCE OF OUR HIGHEST SUBMISSIONS AT 50%.
SCOPE THREE, UH, THEN TAKES UP 30%, AND THEN SCOPE TWO, UH, IS UH, 20%.
UH, AND SO WE DECIDED, UH, TO FURTHER BREAK IT DOWN ON EXACTLY WHERE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THESE EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM.
UH, AND THIS, UH, PIE CHART IS REPRESENTATIVE THE 2021 MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS.
SO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT ELECTRICITY IS, UH, REQUIRED.
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THE ELECTRICITY REQUIRED FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OR HIGHEST SOURCE OF EMISSIONS.UH, THAT IS INCLUDING NOT ONLY THE TREATMENT FACILITY ITSELF, BUT ALL THE LIFT STATIONS AND THE APPARATUS TO GET WASTEWATER FROM CITY SITE OUT SIX MILES TO THAT LOCATION AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SITE.
SECOND LARGEST SUBMITTER IS OUR EMPLOYEE COMMUTE, WHICH IS A SCOPE THREE 19% FLEET MAKES UP ABOUT 16% OF EMISSIONS IN 2021 AND SOLID WASTE, UH, IS ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 11%.
AND THEN, UH, SMALLER CATEGORIES INCLUDED, UH, STREETLIGHT TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, WATER DELIVERY, WHICH WAS NEW.
UH, THE SECTIONS WHERE YOU SEE, UH, LIKE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, UM, TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LOSSES, AND THEN A LITTLE LOWER BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES TRANSMISSION DISTRIBUTION LOSS AND LIGHT TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LOSSES ARE DIRECTLY TIED IN WITH ELECTRICITY.
SO YOU COULD BULK THOSE INTO ELECTRICITY, BUT IT'S A SET, IT'S A SEPARATE CALCULATION WITHIN THAT.
UH, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SEPARATED OUT, UH, TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND WHICH ONE OF THOSE SOURCES IS THE HIGHEST, UH, ONES FOR US TO TACKLE.
UH, SO IT'S GIVES US A GOOD IDEA OF LOCATIONS AND AREAS WITHIN MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON, UH, TRY TO RECEIVE, UH, SEE MORE REDUCTION, UH, WITHIN THAT.
AND GPP, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, HELPS US GET TO THAT, UH, THOSE GOALS WITHIN OUR MUNICIPALS, OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
SO WHAT DO THAT LOOK LIKE OVER THE THREE REPORTING YEARS? UH, IN 2018, OUR REPORTING ESTIMATE IS, UH, TWO 20, A LITTLE OVER 2,900, UH, DROPS DOWN IN 2020, UH, TO 20, A LITTLE OVER 2300, WHICH WOULD BE EXPECTED, UH, DUE TO COVID, UH, PANDEMICS, UM, OP CHANGES IN OPERATIONS, MORE PEOPLE ARE AT HOME AND THE LIKE TO SEE THAT DROP.
AND THEN WE SEE AN INCREASE, UM, BACK INTO 2021 AT TO 2,700.
THAT NEGATIVE NINE, UH, PERCENT TOTAL THAT WE HAVE HERE, THAT'S, UH, A CHANGE TO BASELINE.
SO THAT'S, UH, 9% REDUCTION FROM THIS, UH, 2,957 ESTIMATED IN 2018.
UH, FURTHER BREAK IT DOWN ON WHERE IT WAS AT.
KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE PIE CHART AND WHAT THIS, UH, CHANGES IS, I KNOW THERE'S, UH, THE, THE BELOW THE SECTION ON, UH, THE FONT HERE IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, TINY TO SEE, BUT THIS, UH, LOCATION ON THE, THE FAR SIDE HERE, THIS IS WASTEWATER TREATMENT, ELECTRICITY.
UH, SO WE SEE THIS, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP IN 2020 AND THEN, UH, RISES BACK UP IN 2021.
UH, THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY CUZ THERE WAS LESS WASTE WATER THAT WAS TREATED BETWEEN THOSE YEARS.
UH, SO YOU, UH, THE LESS WASTE WATER THAT WAS TREATED REQUIRED LESS ENERGY AS WELL AS THERE WAS IMPROVEMENTS IN THE OVERALL ELECTRICAL GRID.
IN THE 2018, THE ARIZONA NEW MEXICO, UH, E GRID REGION, THE EMISSION FACTOR THAT WAS USED FOR IT WAS UP, UH, 1,027 POUNDS PER MEGAWATT HOUR FOR 2020 THAT DROPPED TO 850.
SO THE GRID GOT CLEANER, UH, AS WELL AS THE LOCATION ULTIMATELY USED LESS ELECTRICITY TO SEE THAT KIND OF, UH, DROP.
UH, WITHIN THAT, UH, EMPLOYEE COMMUTING SEASON INCREASE.
UH, THE 2018 ESTIMATION THAT, UH, WAS USED, UH, WAS A VERY BROAD AVERAGE.
THEY TOOK AN OVERALL AVERAGE OF, UM, LIKE A NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR EMISSIONS OR MILES EFFICIENT, EFFICIENTLY MILES EFFICIENT MILES PER GALLON EFFICIENCY, UH, FOR CERTAIN VEHICLE.
AND APPLIED IT TO THE ENTIRE SLATE OF EMPLOYEE COMMUTE OPERATIONS FOR 2020 AND 2021.
WE APPLIED A SPECIFIC EMISSION FACTOR TO EACH, UH, RESPECTIVE VEHICLE THAT WAS APPLIED WITHIN THAT.
SO WE SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE THERE.
UH, AND WE ALSO, THAT CHANGE ALSO WAS SEEN WITHIN FLEET, UH, AND WE HAD MORE MILEAGE AND MORE, UH, GALLONS, UH, CONSUMED OR PURCHASE THAT LEADS TO THIS INCREASE IN EMISSIONS AND FLEET, UH, SOLID WASTE.
UH, DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT A CHANGE WITHIN THAT.
AND THEN AS SEE KIND OF WITHIN THESE SMALLER CATEGORIES HERE.
SO THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE WITHIN THAT IS A YEAR TO BASELINE CHANGE.
EXCUSE ME, UH, BRYCE, SORRY ABOUT SOLID WASTE.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT TALK, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SEWAGE OR ARE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE? UH, SO THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS THAT ARE GOING INTO SOLID WASTE.
UH, MAJORITY OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOLID WASTE THAT IS GENERATED FROM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY THAT IS THEN TRANSPORTED TO A LANDFILL MM-HMM.
AND THEN A PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE WITHIN OUR OWN OPERATIONS.
THE, UH, ALL THE MATERIALS THAT ARE PICKED UP, UH, AT, UH, CITY SITES, CONTRACTORS, ROAD, UM, THE CITY HALL FACILITY.
AND THAT IS ALSO, UH, WOULD BE LANDFILL.
SO THE SOLID WASTE WOULD BE ALL MATERIALS THAT ARE THEN LANDFILL THAT, UH, WOULD HAVE AN ESTIMATION OFF OF THAT.
WE WE'RE NOT, PARDON ME, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CALCULATE, UH, GARBAGE BEING PUT OUT BY ALL THE RESIDENTS.
UH, SO FOR, FOR THIS ESTIMATION, THIS ONE'S JUST FOR THE MUNICIPAL, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE MAKE AN ESTIMATION, UH, BASED ON AVAILABLE DATA AND METHODOLOGY AT THE TIME TO GET A NUMBER ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL AND TOURISM SOLID WASTE COMPONENT WOULD BE.
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SO SOME TAKEAWAYS, UH, FROM THE MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS IS THAT EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS, UH, WERE LARGELY SEEN IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EPAS UH, EEG GRID REGION, WHICH IS THE ARIZONA NEW MEXICO OR ZN E GRID, UH, EMISSION FACTORS THAT ARE APPLIED TO RESPECTIVE, UH, MEGAWATT HOUR PURCHASES.THERE'S ALSO A SLIGHT DECREASE IN PURCHASE ELECTRICITY FROM 2018 TO 2021, UH, DECLINING JUST UNDER A HUNDRED, UH, MEGAWATT HOURS BETWEEN THOSE YEARS.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A DECREASE IN NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION, UH, THAT WENT FROM, UH, 10,697 THMS IN 2018 DOWN TO 9,630.
SO, UH, WE SEE A CORRESPONDING DECREASE IN THE NATURAL GAS EMISSIONS.
UH, WITH THAT THERMAL REDUCTION, UH, INCREASES ARE LARGELY IN FLEET AND EMPLOYEE COMMUTING.
UH, PART OF THAT IS DUE TO MORE SPECIFIC EMISSION FACTORS THAT WERE APPLIED TO EACH VEHICLE INSTEAD OF A BROAD AVERAGE FOR ALL THE VEHICLES AS A WHOLE, UH, AS WELL AS MORE FUEL WAS PURCHASED BETWEEN THE YEARS AS IN 2021, UH, THERE WAS OVER 40, 41,500 GALLONS OF FUEL THAT WAS PURCHASED.
AND THAT'S UP SLIGHTLY FROM 2018 THAT HAD 40,319, UH, EMPLOYEE COMMUTING SAW, UH, AN INCREASE PARTLY DUE TO THAT MORE SPECIFIC EMISSION FACTOR AS WELL AS WITHIN THE EMPLOYEE, UH, COMMUTE SURVEY.
WE FOUND THAT IN 2020, UH, EMPLOYEES WERE COMMUTING ON AVERAGE ABOUT 3.21 DAYS PER WEEK.
AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT ROSE TO 3.91 DAYS.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST A DIRECT RESPONSE TO CHANGES IN PANDEMIC AND BEING BACK IN THE OFFICE AND THE LIKE.
SO WE SEE THAT INCREASE IN, UH, COMMUTE, UH, EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THOSE EMPLOYEES NOT LIVING IN THE CITY OF SD ANY LONGER? LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO MOVE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, SO THAT CAUSED THEIR COMMUTE TO BE LONGER THAN MAYBE FROM ONE YEAR PRIOR.
SO THAT, BUT COULD THE BOOST BE BECAUSE OF THAT? UH, SO THE, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WERE WITHIN THE CITY, UH, WERE, UM, WE'RE CONFIRMED WITH HR, UM, TO SEE HOW MANY WE HAD FOR RESPECTIVE YEARS TO SEE IF PEOPLE LEFT AFTER PEOPLE CAME BACK.
UH, WHAT WE DO SEE A KIND OF CHANGE WITHIN THE COMMUTE PATTERNS BETWEEN 2020 AND 2021, THE DISTANCE GOT SLIGHTLY, UH, LARGER BETWEEN THOSE YEARS.
SO THE AVERAGE, UH, EMPLOYEE THAT RESPONDED TO THE EMPLOYEE COMMUTE SURVEY WAS SLIGHTLY FURTHER AWAY.
SO THEN YOU HAVE A PART INCREASE, UH, DUE TO THAT AS WELL.
UH, BUT THE PRIMARY DRIVER WAS THAT, UH, ALMOST DAY INCREASE, UH, WITHIN IT.
BUT, UM, THE EXTRA DISTANCE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL, UH, FOR, FOR FINDING HOUSING AND THE LIKE, THAT PLAYS A PART IN NOT.
AND SO THE, UH, SECOND, UH, COMPONENT HERE IS, UH, COMMUNITY LEVEL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, UH, LARGELY WHAT'S, UH, DEVELOPED OR PRESENTED IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UH, THESE ARE MORE DIFFICULT TO ACCOUNT FOR BECAUSE WE NEED THIRD PARTY DATA AND COLLABORATION.
UNLIKE, UH, WITH MUNICIPAL WHERE WE HAVE THE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE UTILITY BILLS, WE HAVE THE DIRECT ACCESS TO, UH, FUEL PURCHASING.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THAT FOR COMMUNITY.
SO WE REALLY RELY HEAVILY ON COLLABORATION, UH, WITH OUR PARTNERS TO GET, UH, GET TO THOSE LOCATIONS OR GET TO THOSE ESTIMATES.
AND SO SOME OF THE PARTNERS INCLUDED APS UNISOURCE, ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, OAK CREEK WATER COMPANY, AS WELL AS PATRIOT DISPOSAL AND WASTE MANAGEMENT.
AND, UH, NONE OF THESE EMISSIONS ESTIMATIONS, UH, WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE COMPLETED WITHOUT THEIR, UH, SUPPORT AND, UH, WILLINGNESS TO GIVE US, UH, ADDITIONAL DATA.
UH, SO THE 2018 INVENTORY WAS, UH, SLIGHTLY REVISED AFTER A DATA REVIEW.
UH, A A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, OVERSEEING THE, REVIEWING THE CALCULATIONS FROM 2018, SEEING HOW THEY CALCULATED IT, AND SEEING WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE, UH, AND WHAT THOSE DATA BOUNDARIES ARE, AND THEN WORK TO GET ALL THREE OF OUR REPORTING YEARS ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUTURE EMISSIONS.
SO IN 2021, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT COMMUNITY EMISSIONS WE'RE 147,783 METRIC TONS.
UH, THE PRIMARY, UH, SOURCES OF EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM THESE FOUR CATEGORIES WITH 22% COMING FROM RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY TO ANOTHER 22% COMING FROM ON ROAD TRAVEL, 18% FROM COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY, AND THEN 13%, UH, COMING FROM, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, NATURAL GAS, AND THEN ANOTHER 9% AND THEN SO ON.
UH, SO REALLY THE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS OUR LARGEST SUBMITTERS HERE, UH, ARE BUILDINGS AND FROM COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL BETWEEN AN ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION SUPPLYING ABOUT 40% OF THOSE EMISSIONS.
ANOTHER 22% OF EMISSIONS IS COMING FROM THE SAME BUILDINGS FROM NATURAL GAS USAGE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SMALLER NUMBER HERE, BUT STILL IN A LARGE AGGREGATE, IT'S A SINGLE SOURCE ON, ON ROAD TRAVEL.
SO IN WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE BETWEEN, UH, THE THREE YEARS IS THAT WE HAVE A SLIGHTLY REVISED, UH, IT'S BEEN REVISED DOWN JUST SLIGHTLY FROM THE CAP IN THE CAP.
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UM, FOR 2018.AND I'LL GET INTO THE DATA BOUNDARY CHANGES LATER.
UH, LARGELY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE, UH, PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ELECTRICAL GRID BETWEEN THE TWO HAS LED TO THIS, UH, ESTIMATED 9%, UH, DROP THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING, UH, BETWEEN THE THREE YEARS HERE.
SO, UH, THIS SECTION OVER HERE, RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY, UH, THERE WAS A 7% DROP OVERALL IN, UM, EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY.
AND IT'S KIND OF A MIX WHERE THE ELECTRIC GRID GOT CLEANER, BUT USAGE OF ELECTRICITY WITHIN THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL SPACE INCREASED.
AND SO WE DON'T SEE THAT SAME NEARLY 20% OR SO, UH, REDUCTION WITHIN THE EMISSION FACTOR BECAUSE THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY INCREASED.
SO IT KIND OF OFFSETS A LITTLE BIT OF THE REDUCTION, UH, THAT WE SAW WITHIN THE INITIAL FACTORS.
UH, THIS ON ROAD TRAVEL IS A SLIGHT UNDERESTIMATION HERE AS THIS, UH, ON ROAD TRAVEL IS HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON, UH, A DATABASE THROUGH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AT THE TIME OF THIS EMISSION INVENTORY BEING COMPLETED, 2021 DATA FROM THIS DATABASE WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
SO 2020, UH, ON ROAD DATA WAS TRANSFERRED OVER, UH, TO TRY NOT TO MAKE, UH, DRASTIC CHANGES IN METHODOLOGY, BUT THE PLACEMENT OF WHERE IT IS WITHIN THAT.
UH, BUT THERE IS AN ESTIMATED 14% REDUCTION THERE, UH, WITH, UH, TO 31,738.
THIS IS MOST LIKELY AN UNDERESTIMATE AND ON-ROAD TRAVEL AS PANDEMIC RESTRICTIONS, EASE, MOST LIKELY THERE'S MORE FOLKS IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS IS A, A SECTION THAT AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION FROM THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, I CAN UPDATE THIS NUMBER.
UH, ONCE WE GET THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY SAW A LARGER DECLINE.
SO WHEREAS, UH, RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY SAW US NEGATIVE SEVEN, UH, 7% DROP, UH, THERE IS A MUCH MORE DISTINCT DECLINE IN, UH, COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY, UH, LARGELY DUE TO, UH, REDUCTIONS IN ACTIVITY FROM THE COMMERCIAL SECTORS DURING THE PANDEMIC AS KIND OF EXTENDED HERE INTO 2021.
AS WELL AS THAT IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THE OVERALL EMISSION FACTOR ITSELF TO LEAD THE, THAT REDUCTION, THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY.
I JUST, UH, WANT TO, UH, QUICKLY POINT OUT THAT, UH, THE BOUNDARY CHANGED ON THAT BETWEEN THE INITIAL 2018 CLIMATE ACTION PLAN INVENTORY TO WHERE WE'RE AT IN 2020.
THEY, THEY USED A, UH, PRETTY BROAD SCOPE ON WHERE THE ZIP CODES WERE.
THEY USED THE 86 3 36 ZIP CODE, AS WELL AS THE 86 3 51 ZIP CODE, WHICH ENCOMPASSES ALL THE VILLAGE OAK CREEK AND IS DISTINCTLY OUTSIDE OF, UH, CITY BOUNDARIES.
AND SO THAT KIND OF ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED, UH, WHERE THE BOUNDARY WAS FOR THAT EMISSION.
SO FOR THE 2020 AND 2021 AND THE REVISED 2018, WE TOOK JUST THE 8 6 3 3 6 ZIP CODE.
THERE'S STILL OBVIOUSLY SOME FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING OUTSIDE OF CITY, UH, CITY LIMITS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT ZIP CODE, BUT IT NARROWS DOWN THE SCOPE TO BE MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF JUST CITY OF SEDONA WITHOUT INCLUDING AN ENTIRE ZIP CODE THAT HAS NOTHING NO OVERLAP WITHIN IT.
AND CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT ZIP CODE, UH, UH, USE? IS THIS BASED ON WHERE THE, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, UH, METER IS? I HOPE AND NOT, I MEAN, SO SOME PEOPLE GET THEIR BILL AT A PO BOX, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ZIP CODE THAN 8 6 3 36.
SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, DEPENDENT ON APS, UH, PROVIDED DATA OF WHAT THEY, UH, HAVE SUBMITTED WITHIN 86, 3 36 ZIP CODE VERSUS 86, 3 51.
UH, HOW APS KIND OF BUCKETED EACH GROUP WITHIN THAT ZIP CODE.
UH, I CAN CIRCLE BACK AND GET ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION THERE.
UH, BUT FROM WHAT THEY INITIALLY SENT WAS KIND OF BRACKETED WITHIN THOSE ZIP CODES.
THEY DON'T KNOW, UH, EXACTLY HOW THE UTILITY BILLS, UH, WOULD GET SEPARATED WITHIN THEIR, IT'S JUST THAT IN SEDONA, WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PLACE IN THE VERDE VALLEY IN THAT WE HAVE FIVE ZIP CODES BETWEEN THE VILLAGE AND THE CITY OF SEDONA, WHERE COTTONWOOD HAS ONE BETWEEN BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
SO WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE PO BOXES IN THE CITY, THE ONE THAT PO BOXES AT THE MAIN POST OFFICE AND PO BOXES OUT HERE IN WEST SEDONA.
AND THEN THERE'S 86 3 36, WHICH IS THE STREET ADDRESS.
UH, MET ME IF I MAY PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION, IT SHOULD BE BASED ON WHERE THE PROPERTY IS THAT'S RECEIVED THE SERVICE.
BASED ON THE MAILING ADDRESSES, YOU KNOW, AND I, I JUST HOPE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE KEEPING IN THE RECORDS.
WELL, WE CAN MOST DEFINITELY DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
AND RESPOND TO THE COUNCIL IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AND BRYCE, WHAT ABOUT, UH, TO, TO TAG ONTO THE MAYOR, WE HAVE A 63 36 OUTSIDE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO THE WEST OF US.
IS THAT ELIMINATED? OH, ACTUALLY, THAT'S
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TRUE.I THINK SOME OF THOSE, I THINK BOTH IN THE CANYON AND IN PART OF THE CANYON AND IN THE LOOP ROAD THERE'S SOME 86 3 36 AND THE PINES.
SO THE, THE, THE 80 63 36 ZIP CODE IS CLEARLY ENCOMPASSES NOT ONLY CITY SEDONA, BUT ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS MM-HMM.
SO TO TRY TO NARROW IT DOWN TO GET MORE SPECIFIC TO JUST CITY OF SEDONA LIMITS, UH, OUR COURSE OF ACTION ON THIS WAS TO INCLUDE THE 8 6 3 36 ZIP CODE, AS WE WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE GRANULARITY AND TO BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN SPECIFICALLY WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
UH, AND SO TO TRY TO AVOID AND OVERCOUNT FOR ZIP CODES THAT, UH, LARGELY CAN CONTAIN AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, WE JUST TRY TO FOCUS DOWN TO 86 3 36 ZIP CODE YOU GET.
BUT YOU'RE GETTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR CITY LIMITS.
I MEAN, THAT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE DOZEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HUNDREDS, ONE OF THE, WELL JUST ON LOWER UPPER AND LOWER END THE PINES BECAUSE THE PINES ARE SUCH SMALL LOTS.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES WHEN IT COMES TO GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING IS OBTAINING DATA AND OBTAINING PERFECT DATA IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.
UM, WHETHER YOU'RE A MUNICIPALITY OR IF YOU WORK FOR A CORPORATION, UM, I'VE DONE GREENHOUSE SCALES ACCOUNTING ACROSS VARIOUS INDUSTRIES, AND DATA IS ALWAYS THE ISSUE.
NOBODY EVER HAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED AVAILABLE.
AND IT MIGHT TAKE YEARS TO REFINE THOSE DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS TO GET DOWN TO VERY GRANULAR, PRECISE ESTIMATES.
UM, BRYCE HAS COMPLETED EXTENSIVE REPORTS ON EVERY SINGLE UPDATE THAT HE'S DONE, AND HE DOES GET INTO SOME GRANULARITY THERE AND DOES PROVIDE INFORMATION ON ASSUMPTIONS AND ESTIMATES THAT WE DID HAVE TO MAKE IN THIS ACCOUNTING.
AND I, I'M NOT QUESTIONING BRYCE AT ALL, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND THAT'S FINE.
UH, YES, I, AND BY ALL MEANS, UM, THE, THESE ARE DEFINITE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED CUZ IT'S JUST THE ASPECT OF US TRYING TO GET TO THAT SPOT OF EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT ON OUR MISSIONS, HOW WE'RE CALCULATING IT, UH, WHAT OUR POINTS ARE WHEN WE'RE TRACKING IT AND REPORTING IT.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTINUE TO PROVE ON.
WE HAVE NOTES ON TO BE ABLE TO TELL, UH, RESPECTIVE BODIES, INTERESTED PARTIES THAT LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS IS WHAT WE DID BECAUSE OF THIS IS WHAT THE DATA THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THAT, AT THOSE TIMES.
AND SO, UM, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR, UH, TOURISM AND RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE.
UH, THE THIRD PARTY, UH, WASTE HAULERS IN THE AREA TRADITIONALLY HAVE NOT HAD TO COLLECT DATA ON THE AMOUNT OF WASTE THAT THEY COLLECT OF SITE.
THEY COLLECT IT, THEY TAKE IT TO A TRANSFER STATION, THE TRANSFER STATION SENDS IT TO A LANDFILL, THE LANDFILL WILL REPORT HOW MUCH DATA THAT THEY GET.
BUT IT'S, WE LOSE THE ABILITY TO SAY HOW MUCH OF THAT CAME FROM SEDONA.
AND WE LOSE HOW MUCH TO GO TO PHOENIX.
AND LIKE, SO FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND TOURISM SOLID WASTE, WE HAD TO RELY ON A RESIDENTIAL AND KIND OF A TOURISM POPULATION ESTIMATE AND THEN APPLY AN EPA OVERALL, UH, ESTIMATE OF LIKE, I THINK IT'S 4.9 POUNDS PER OF, UH, MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE PER PERSON PER DAY TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY LIKE THERE IS AN EMISSION SOURCE HERE.
UH, BUT WE WOULD ADDITIONAL SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE WASTE HAULERS TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND MORE GRANULARITY, UH, IS, WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE GOING INTO THE FUTURE.
BUT SO FAR THE METHODOLOGY IS, HAS BEEN OVER THE THREE YEARS HAS BEEN THE SAME.
SO IT'S APPLES TO APPLES AT THIS POINT.
UH, SO THAT'S LARGELY WHERE, UH, WE WANTED TO GET IS ALL THREE OF THE REPORTING YEARS ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, IN 2018, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND, UH, TOURISM SOLID WASTE WERE, UH, UH, AN UNDERESTIMATE.
THERE WAS A CALCULATION AT THE END OF IT THAT WAS JUST MISSED, UH, WHERE, UH, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TIMES BY A COEFFICIENT, UH, THAT WAS MISSED.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, IT SAYS LIKE 132 METRIC TONS IS A MIS UH, ESTIMATED WITHIN SOLID WASTE.
IT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT WHEN THEY INITIALLY MADE THAT, THAT CLIMATE ACTION OR THAT, UH, INITIAL INVENTORY.
UH, SO THE REVIEW PROCESS ALLOWED US TO SEE THAT ERROR AND CORRECT IT AND GET ALL THREE OF THE REPORTING YEARS ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT AVIATION INCREASE 66%.
SO AVIATION, UH, DATA IS DIRECTLY, UM, SOURCED FROM THE, WHAT THE, THE FUEL, FUEL USAGE REPORTS FROM THE SEDONA AIRPORT.
AND DURING THAT TIME, UH, THEY SAW AN INCREASE IN REPORTED, UH, FUEL CONSUMPTION FOR EACH RESPECTIVE YEAR.
UH, AND SO THE, UH, MISSION FACTOR THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE AVIATION IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THAT, UH, GALLON, UH, GALLON AMOUNT OF A RESPECTIVE FUEL.
UH, SO EVEN IF, UH, THE, THE PLANE OR, UH, SAY THEY'RE USING HELICOPTER WHATNOT WAS MORE EFFICIENT, UH, IT'S GOES DIRECTLY DERIVED BACK TO THE AMOUNT OF FUEL THAT WAS REPORTED FOR THAT RESPECTIVE YEAR THAT WAS FOR, UH, FILL OR A PURCHASE AT THAT SITE.
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UM, I GUESS PEOPLE WERE GETTING OUT ON THE AIR AND, UH, GETTING TO SEE THE SITES AND SO, UH, AVIATION INCREASED A LITTLE BIT OR SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THERE, BUT IT RE IN THE GRAND TOTAL OF, UH, THAT 147 OR SO RESPECTIVELY SMALL, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY INCREASED.SO, SO ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE AVIATION PART IS, IS IT BASED ON THE FUEL THEY SELL AT THE AIRPORT OR IS IT, WHAT IS IT? SO IT'S BASED ON THE FUEL FUELINGS AT THE AIRPORT, UM, FOR THAT RESPECTIVE YEAR.
SO IT IS, AND SO A LOT OF THOSE PLANES AREN'T, THEY AREN'T SEDONA, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH HERE AND FUELING UP AND GOING ON.
SO THAT IS, UM, AS WITHIN THE REPORT ESTIMATE, THAT IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WITHIN OUR ASSUMPTION THAT ALL OF THOSE SITES THAT THAT FUEL, UH, THAT IS BEING PURCHASED IS ESSENTIALLY COMING FROM THAT AIRPORT.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY BEING ORIGINATED FROM THAT AIRPORT.
THEY COME IN, THEY FUEL, THEY LEAVE, THEY MIGHT BE GOING TO ANOTHER, OBVIOUSLY GOING TO ANOTHER DESTINATION, BUT THAT AMOUNT OF FUEL, UH, ORIGINATED FROM THE AIRPORT FOR ITS USE.
SO IF THEY EX EXPAND THEIR FUEL, UH, SUPPLY, WHICH THEY HAVE BY THE WAY, WHICH THEY HAVE, IT'LL GO UP.
I KNOW THEY'VE EXPAND, THAT'S A BIG REVENUE PRODUCER FOR THEM, SO THEY'VE EXPANDED THEIR FUEL FARM, BUT I THINK YOU TOLD ME LESS, A LOT OF THOSE PLANES ARE JUST LANDING AND TAKING OFF AND GOING OUT AWAY FROM US.
SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHERE THE, UH, MISSION COMES IN, BUT BASED JUST ON WHAT THEY SELL, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF IT THAT GOES OUT OF THE AREA.
IT'S, UH, THE ASPECT OF IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO IF A, IF AN INDIVIDUAL PURCHASES 20 GALLONS OF GAS HERE AND TRAVELS, THAT FUEL PURCHASE WAS ORIGINATED AND DEVELOPED AND ULTIMATELY BURNED OFF OF ITS PURCHASE WITHIN CITY LIMITS OF THE LIKE.
SO, UH, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UM, WE ARE GOING OFF OF THAT INITIAL THING IS THAT, THAT ORIGINATED FROM THIS LOCATION.
AND SO THE EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED FOR THE COMMUNITYWIDE PERSPECTIVE, UH, SINCE IT FALLS WITHIN CITY BOUNDARIES, IS GONNA BE ATTRIBUTED TO COMMUNITYWIDE EMISSIONS.
UH, SO, UH, TO MOVE ON TO SOME TAKEAWAYS FROM, UH, THE COMMUNITY LEVEL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, UH, IS THAT, UH, THE CAP REPORTED AT, UH, UH, 165,800 METRIC TONS? UH, SO THAT'S BEEN SLIGHTLY REVISED DOWN, UH, DUE TO THE CHANGES IN, UH, DATA BOUNDARIES AS MENTIONED TO, UH, 162,733, UH, IT'S PRETTY TO MENTIONED THERE'S SLIGHT, UH, THE CHANGES IN THE SOLID WASTE WHERE THE EMISSION, UM, COEFFICIENT WASN'T APPLIED CORRECTLY IN THE 2018 INVENTORY.
UH, AND THEN IN 2021, UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE HAVE 147,007 OR 83.
SO IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SIMILAR TO THE MUNICIPAL IS THAT THERE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ARIZONA NEW MEXICO ELECTRICAL GRID ON ROAD TRAVELERS, UH, UH, AS HIGHLIGHTED WAS AS IS IN MOST LIKELY AN AND UNDERESTIMATE DUE TO THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF 2021 DATA.
UM, AND SOLID WASTE CONTINUES TO BE BROAD ESTIMATES JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THIRD PARTY INFORMATION NEEDED FROM THE WASTE SOLARS.
UH, AND THEN NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION WAS KIND OF MIXED WHERE COMMERCIAL NATURAL GAS, KIND OF SOLID DECLINE, RESIDENTIAL NATURAL GAS KIND OF SAW AN INCREASE.
SOME, SOME PANDEMIC CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR CHANGES WITHIN THOSE FIELDS KIND OF GAVE MIXED RESULTS TO OVERALL NATURAL GAS NUMBERS.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND THIS, UH, NEXT SLIDE OFF TO ALICIA.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT BARCE HAS DONE.
HE JUST HIT ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY HERE AT CITY SEDONA.
HE HAS LITERALLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS THE ENTIRE TIME THAT HE'S BEEN HERE.
NOT ONLY DID HE IDENTIFY HEIRS AND UM, BAD ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE IN OUR 2018 BASELINE, HE DID THAT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF BREAD CRUMBS OR NOTES OR METHODOLOGY.
THERE WAS VERY LITTLE TO GO OFF OF.
SO HE BASICALLY REVERSED ENGINEERED OUR 2018 BASELINE TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES WITH IT AND MADE THOSE UPDATES AND MADE SURE THAT IT WAS AN ALIGNMENT WITH NEW, UM, STANDARDS FOR 2021, OR I'M SORRY, 2020 AND 2021.
SO HE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB FOR OUR PROGRAM AND FOR THE CITY AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THOSE CAN BE AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE BA THE FOUNDATIONS OF ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROGRAM GOALS.
SO JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE HIM AND THANK HIM FOR THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE ON THAT.
UM, MOVING ON, WE WON'T DWELL ON THAT ONE.
THIS WAS A SLIDE THAT WAS RECENTLY ADDED IN RESPONSE TO A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED, BUT ALSO, UM, WE WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC WITH A VISUAL AID OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY GOAL MEANS.
SO OUR RE REMEMBER I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE OUR COMMUNITY WIDE EMISSIONS BY 50% BASED ON OUR 2018 BASELINE BY 2030.
SO 50% OF OUR NEW UPDATED 2018 BASELINE WOULD BE 81,367 METRIC TONS OF CO2 EQUIVALENT AS OF BRYCE'S CALCULATIONS.
AND AS OF 2022, BECAUSE WE ONLY DO THOSE CALCULATION UPDATES ONCE A
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YEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE SO TIME INTENSIVE, WE ARE CURRENTLY SETTING AT ABOUT 147,783 METRIC TONS.UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, I AM NOT THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER OF THE TEAM.
UM, BUT UM, THERE'S A VISUAL TO KIND OF SHOW YOU HOW FAR OUT WHERE YOU ARE FROM REACHING THAT GOAL.
I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT AS BRY MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, JUST BECAUSE WE HIT THAT GOAL DOES NOT MEAN WE GET TO STOP AT ALL.
THERE IS ALWAYS IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MAKING.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY WE CANNOT REST ON COVID PANDEMICS OR INCREASED TECHNOLOGY TO HELP US REACH THAT GOAL.
AND IN THE SUSTAINABILITY PROFESSION, YOU DO ALWAYS HOPE THAT TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU MEET YOUR GOALS DOWN THE LINE.
BUT WE HAVE TO REMAIN VIGILANT.
AND IT TAKES NOT ONLY, UH, THE CITY STAFF TO CONTINUOUSLY DO THE RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO THE BEST TECHNOLOGIES AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO OUR DECISION MAKERS, BUT ALSO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO ARE DOING THE GOOD WORK OUT THERE.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK GOING ON OUT THERE, AND WE JUST NEED TO GET EVERYBODY CONNECTED SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE THAT MOMENTUM AND REALLY REACH OUR GOALS WITHOUT HAVING TO BE DEPENDENT ON SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT COME THROUGH.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS BECAUSE WE ARE SUPER EXCITED FOR THE, UH, POSSIBILITY OF A WEB CONTENT MANAGER BEING HIRED BY, UM, CITY OF SEDONA.
I BELIEVE THAT JOB POSTING WENT UP RECENTLY.
AND SO, UM, AS SOON AS THAT PERSON IS ON BOARD AND HAS THE CAPABILITY, WE'RE WANTING TO REVAMP OUR SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM WEBSITE TO, UM, INCREASE, UH, TRANSPARENCY AND ALSO, UM, CREATE SOME DASHBOARDS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN LOG ON AND SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, UM, BASED ON THE UPDATES THAT ARE MADE TO OUR MISSION.
SO, UM, HOPING TO HAVE SOMETHING, UM, MORE ON THAT TO PRESENT HERE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, BUT WE'RE EAGER FOR THAT.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, WE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT QUESTION, QUESTIONS COME IN EARLIER THIS WEEK FROM COUNCIL.
UM, ONE OF 'EM THAT I WANNA TOUCH ON, ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT, UM, IF YOU THINK OF OUR REDUCTIONS GOAL IN A LINEAR PATH, UH, THE CALCULATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IS THAT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN, UH, 12.5% REDUCTION EACH YEAR TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ME AND OUR GOAL BY 2030.
UM, AT FIRST, I, THE, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS, UM, REDUCTIONS ARE NEVER LINEAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WENT DOWN IN 2020, WE'VE COME BACK UP.
THAT'S NOTHING TO BE DISCOURAGED ABOUT.
BUT, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO THINK, IS THAT OUR GOAL FOR EACH YEAR WOULD BE TO GET AT LEAST 12.5% REDUCTIONS IN BOTH OUR COMMUNITY EMISSIONS AND OUR, UM, MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS.
EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS REDUCTION GOAL, UM, WE STILL WANNA TRY TO REDUCE THOSE EMISSIONS RIGHT ALONGSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT, UM, WE WANNA THANK COUNSELOR THOMPSON FOR, UH, SUBMITTING THOSE QUESTIONS AND GIVING US THAT IDEA TO, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH US.
AND WE, OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO TRY TO GET AT LEAST 12.5% REDUCTIONS EVERY YEAR.
CAN I, CAN I JUST JUMP IN? IF YOU DO 12 AND A HALF PERCENT PER YEAR, YOU'RE GONNA REALLY BEAT YOUR GOAL.
THAT'S THE 12 AND A HALF PERCENT I WAS REFERRING TO WAS HALF OF 25% OVER THE, BECAUSE WE ARE THREE YEARS IN, THAT'S A QUARTER OF THE WAY.
SO WE SHOULD BE 25% REDUCTION AND THE CAP SAYS HALF OF OUR REDUCTION WE ASSUME IS GONNA COME FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES RATHER THAN OUR OWN ACTIONS.
THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WENT BEHIND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAP.
UM, WE, NONE OF NO ONE ON OUR TEAM WAS HERE WHEN THAT RIGHT WAS DEVELOPED.
OUR PHILOSOPHY IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T WAIT ON OUTSIDE TECHNOLOGIES AND HOPE FOR THE BEST.
LIKE WE SHOULD BE TAKING THOSE ACTIONS OURSELVES AND AS A COMMUNITY TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH REDUCTIONS AS WE CAN ON OUR OWN BEFORE RELYING ON EXTERNAL SOURCES SUCH AS GOVERNMENT POLICIES OR NEW TECHNOLOGY TO BE, UH, PUT IN BY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT IF YOU, IF IF WE GET 25% REDUCTION AFTER THESE THREE YEARS, THAT'S NOT 12 AND A HALF PERCENT A YEAR, THAT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET 12 AND A HALF PERCENT A YEAR, 12 AND A HALF PERCENT A YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA HIT IT IN EIGHT YEARS RATHER THAN 12 UNDER.
AND I MUST HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTIONS.
SOME OF THESE WERE VERY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO LOOK AT THEM BEFORE WE PREPARED A PRESENTATION.
UM, HOWEVER I STAND BY THAT, LET'S GO FOR 12.5% PER YEAR OR NOT.
UH, THESE WERE SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED THAT WERE REALLY GREAT.
SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY, I WANTED TO, UM, KIND OF DISPLAY THOSE TO SEE IF MAYBE THESE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS THAT YOU TWO ARE THINKING ABOUT OR IF THEY'RE LIKE WAY OVER YOUR HEAD.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION IS THAT WE'RE TRYING, TRYING TO REACH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHERE THEY'RE AT.
SO SOME ARE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE, SOME DON'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL, UM, SOME ARE OUTRIGHT AGAINST AND THAT'S OKAY.
WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY'S AT SO WE CAN COME TO THE TABLE AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THESE
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QUESTIONS ON AND PROVIDE A QUICK RESPONSE.UM, IF ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ASK ADDITIONAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO SO AT THIS TIME.
SO OUR FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT CONVERSION RATIO DO YOU USE FOR NTU O, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NITROUS OXIDE AND CH FOUR, WHICH IS METHANE, UH, GIVEN THAT THEY DISSIPATE AT DIFFERENT RATES THAN CO2, THESE ARE ALL GREENHOUSE GASES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO GLOBAL WARMING AND OUR REDUCTIONS IN NITROUS OXIDE AND METHANE GAINING IMPORTANCE RELATIVE TO CO2 GIVEN THEIR IMMEDIATE THREAT TO KEY TIPPING POINTS.
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, THEY ARE GAINING IMPORTANCE.
WE REALIZE THAT THEY ARE, BUT WE DO NOT GET THAT GRANULAR INTO OUR CALCULATIONS TO WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THOSE CALCULATIONS.
UM, WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IS THAT EACH OF THOSE CHEMICALS HAS A GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL ADDED TO IT BASED ON THE CHEMICAL THAT GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL COULD BE A HUNDRED YEARS, IT COULD BE 500 YEARS.
WHAT HAPPENS, THE CONVERSION RATIO THAT WAS REFERENCED IS THAT EPA COMES AND NORMALIZES THOSE GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIALS ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO THEY'RE ALL STANDARD AND THEN THEY APPLY THOSE, UH, MISSION RATES BASED ON WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO NORMALIZE THAT.
SO WE DO NOT DO THOSE CALCULATIONS IN HOUSE.
UM, AND THOSE ARE UPDATED ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE PULL THOSE EMISSIONS FACTORS FROM EVERY TIME THAT WE GO TO DO AN UPDATE TO THE GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING.
DOES THAT ANSWER EVERYBODY'S QUESTION? OH, SO, SO WHAT YOU USE FOR METHANE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE 80 YEAR, UH, OR THE 20 YEAR OR THE STANDARD, UH, REPORTING WITHIN THE, UH, REPORTING PROTOCOLS HAS A HUNDRED YEAR VALUE, UH, FOR METHANE AND NITROUS OXIDE.
UH, THE METHANE IS I THINK 28.
AND THEN, UH, NITROUS OXIDE COEFFICIENT FOR THE GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL A HUNDRED YEARS IS 265.
AND FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN, IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, WONDERFUL SCIENCE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU, THIS CAN ALL BE FOUND ON THE EPA WEBSITE AS WELL.
BRYCE REFERENCES ALL THE SOURCES THAT WE USE IN OUR GREENHOUSE ACCOUNTING UPDATES AND THE REPORT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE PACKET FOR THE TONIGHT.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH CO2 EQUIVALENT IS EMITTED BY A BY PLANE, HELICOPTER, OR PRIVATE JET PER MILE TRAVELED, OR THE DG MULTIPLIER FOR THOSE MACHINES COMPARED TO A STANDARD AUTOMOBILE? UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO DIG INTO THIS, UM, BECAUSE OF WHAT BRYCE ELABORATED ON WITH OUR MUNICIPAL AIRPORT AND HOW WE, UM, DO OUR CALCULATIONS FOR THEIR FUELS, THAT IS BASED ON SALES DATA.
THEY DO NOT PROVIDE INFORMATION ON WHAT KIND OF VEHICLE IS ACTUALLY BURNING THAT DATA.
SO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE DA VEHICLE INFORMATION, LIKE WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR EMPLOYEE COMMUTING SURVEY, UM, YOU JUST USE FUEL CELLS FOR THAT, AND THAT IS INDUSTRY STANDARD AND BEST PRACTICE.
THE LAST QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ESTIMATE WHAT GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS WOULD BE IF WE HAD A SINGLE WASTE HAUL AND MANDATORY CURBSIDE RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING? AGAIN, OUR CALCULATIONS ARE BASED ON AVAILABLE DATA AND UNFORTUNATELY OUR DATA FROM OUR WASTE HAULS IS VERY GENERALIZED AT THE TIME.
UM, IF WE WERE TO COME DOWN TO A SINGLE PROVIDER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE US, UH, MORE GRANULAR DATA THAN WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY GETTING, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO HAVE BETTER ESTIMATES EACH YEAR ON WHAT EMISSIONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR WASTE DISPOSAL.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON THE DATA THAT THE PROVIDERS GIVE US, NOT THE ACTUAL PROVIDER OF A NUMBER OF PROVIDERS.
WITH THAT, I, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OTHER PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING.
MAYOR, I'M APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS IN THERE.
SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT STRUCK ME THOUGH AS I READ THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THE PACKET WAS, THIS IS HARD TO ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW.
THESE NUMBERS WEREN'T AVAILABLE FOR 21, SO WE USED 20 MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S MAYBE THE BEST METHODOLOGY FOR NOW AND, AND ACCORDING TO STANDARD GUIDELINES OR WHATEVER.
BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW ARE WE GONNA REALLY MEASURE OUR METRICS IF WE KEEP GETTING INTO THAT PROBLEM WHERE WE CAN'T GET THOSE AGENCIES TO GIVE US THAT, OR THE SOLID WASTE FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM.
UH, AND I I, I ASSUME AS YOU MOVED TO OTHER PROJECTS, ARE YOU GETTING AWAY FROM GREENHOUSE GASES OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT PROJECTS FOR GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION? UH, WOULD ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, WE EVALUATE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THEM.
IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING REDUCTIONS.
THERE ARE MAYBE SOCIETAL ASPECTS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WELL AS MONETARY ASPECTS.
UM, SO NOT EVERY PROJECT IS SOLELY BASED ON, UM, REDUCING OUR GREENHOUSE GASES.
ADDITIONALLY, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, YOU'D
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BE HIRED, PRESSED TO FIND ANY ENTITY IN THIS NA IN THIS NATION OR COUNTRY OR PLANET FOR THAT MATTER, THAT HAS PERFECT GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING PERFECT DATA.SO WHAT WE HAVE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE AROUND THIS AMOUNT AND WE NEED TO BE DOWN HERE.
WE DON'T NEED TO GET MORE GRANULAR THAN THAT.
WE JUST NEED TO DO THE WORK TO TRY TO BRING THOSE BLOCKS THAT DISPLAYED AS CLOSE TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN EVEN FURTHER DOWN, AND I NOTICED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEW MUNICIPAL, THE ONE WE JUST PASSED AND HAD APPROVED THE, THE 12,000 BUDGETED AMOUNT, 12 FIVE VERSUS 10 EXPENDITURE.
UH, UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT WE THINK THAT GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION WOULD BE AS A RESULT OF THAT? WHAT THAT COST US? WE KNOW IT COSTS 10,000.
DO WE KNOW WHAT IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON OUR CREDIT? RIGHT.
DID YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION? UH, CAN YOU CLARIFY, UH, THE QUESTION THERE? SO THE, THE COST OF, UH, WELL, WELL, HOW MANY, HOW MANY METRIC TONS DO WE ELIMINATE BY GETTING THAT CREDIT? UH, 1,350, UH, METRIC TONS.
UH, AND THAT IS, UH, DIRECT ASSOCIATION.
CAUSE WITH MUNICIPAL, WE HAVE THAT DIRECT UTILITY BILL INFORMATION, UH, TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD APPLY TO.
SO FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, IT WAS A LITTLE OVER 1300 METRIC TONS.
SO 1300 OUT OF THE 81,000 METRIC TONS, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET TO OUR GOAL, ROUGHLY 81,366 OR WHATEVER IT IS IN REDUCTION FROM OUR BASE.
SO THE, UM, THE REDUCTION THAT WE'D SEE WITHIN, UM, THE MUNICIPAL, UH, OPERATIONS AT 1,350 ON FUTURE YEARS, UH, YOU'D SEE THAT SAME REDUCTION HAPPENING AS AT THE COMMUNITY WIDE SCALE.
WELL, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING FOR A COMMUNITY WIDE SCALE GOAL, THOUGH, CORRECT? NOT A MUNICIPAL GOAL PER SE.
SO, UM, THOSE, THOSE TWO OPERATIONS, UM, WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, AS YOU SAID, IT'S A COMMUNITY WIDE SCALE, UH, FOR 50% REDUCTION.
THE MUNICIPAL OPERATION AT THAT 1,350 IS JUST ONE, ONE OF THE LITTLE PARTS THAT GOES INTO THAT COMMUNITY WIDE TO HELP TRY TO DRIVE DOWN THE OVERALL EMISSIONS THERE.
AND, AND IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR MUNICIPAL COSTS, BUT, OR, OR EMISSION.
BUT A SMALL PIECE OF THE TOTAL COMMUNITY WIDE WE'RE TRYING TO GET.
SO, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT 66,000 PLUS METRIC TONS TO GO TO GET TO.
OUR GOAL IS WHAT YOU, BASED UPON WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN DOWN TO 1 47 AND THE IMPROVEMENT FROM THE ONE, UM, 83 THAT WE HAVE, THE, THE, MY GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IN THAT FIRST BASELINE YEAR, THE EG GRID HAD IMPROVEMENTS.
DID WE HAVE TO ADJUST THOSE TO THE GRID AS THE, THE BASELINE AS WELL? OR WERE THERE ACTUALLY SOME CHANGES MADE THAT DIDN'T MAKE THAT NECESSARY? THAT THEY WERE REALLY IMPROVEMENTS, THEY WEREN'T JUST SOMETHING THAT WE GOT CREDIT FOR BECAUSE THE GRID GOT BETTER.
I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT WHAT DID WE REALLY ACCOMPLISH OURSELVES IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
UH, SO BETWEEN 2018 AND 2021, WHAT THE CITY WOULD'VE ACCOMPLISHED, UH, THEMSELVES IS, UH, IS A FAIRLY SMALL AMOUNT JUST CUZ UH, I MEAN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN THAT JULY OF 2021.
UH, SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE SEE BETWEEN 2018 AND 2021 ARE LARGELY FROM THE E EPA CREATED GRID FACTORS OR EMISSION FACTORS FOR THE GRID.
UH, AND SO THEY TAKE A VARIETY OF REPORTING FROM ALL OF THE UTILITIES WITHIN THE, UH, RESPECTIVE, UH, E GRID REGION AND, AND MAKING A MISSION FACTOR FOR THAT.
SO IN 2018, UH, IT WAS A LITTLE, IT WAS ABOUT 1,027 POUNDS PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
AND THEN IN 2020, UH, IT WAS 850.2 UH, POUNDS PER MEGAWATT HOUR, UH, FROM THE SAME EPA E GRID REGION.
SO, UH, THE EEG GRID REGION REPORTED BY THE EPA SAW IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN ITS EMISSION FACTORS BETWEEN THOSE YEARS.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S LARGELY DRIVING, UH, THE, THE DECREASE THAT WE SEE, UH, BETWEEN, UH, 2018 AND THE 2021.
UH, SO WE BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THAT CHANGE, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF, I KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT, BUT I NOTICED THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CATEGORIES TO TRY AND TARGET AND IMPROVE IT.
IT STRUCK ME THAT IF WE TAKE THE, THE LAST SIX THAT ARE MINIMAL, WE'LL ONLY COVER 29% ROUGHLY OF THE TOTAL GOAL THAT WE'RE GOING FOR, IF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT ELIMINATED.
SO WE REALLY GET BACK TO, I THINK THE, YOUR KEY POINT OF IT'S RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY AND COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY COMBINED AND, UH, ON ROAD TRAVEL.
SO IN OUR OWN ROAD TRA ON ROAD TRAVEL AND, AND TOURISM IMPACTS.
ARE WE TRYING TO CONTROL THOSE AND INCLUDE THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY NUMBER? BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE WOULD SEEM TO ME BE OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
WE CAN'T CONTROL WHO DRIVES INTO TOWN OR OUT OF TOWN.
UM, SO IS OUR GOAL NOT REALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE TARGETING? SO THE PROJECTS THAT PUBLIC WORKS UNDERTAKES WILL DRASTICALLY HELP OUR TRANSMISSION, OUR TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS.
UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET CARS OFF THE ROAD.
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AWAY FROM IDLING.THEY WANT PEOPLE TO DRIVE TO THEIR DESTINATION AND PARK AND THEN USE OUR TRANSIT SHUTTLES OR WALK ON OUR WONDERFUL, UM, SHARED USE PATHS OR, UM, OUR UPCOMING MICRO TRANSITS.
SO THOSE ARE THE GOALS OF OUR REPUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM.
AND THOSE ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, OUR GOALS OF REDUCING EMISSIONS.
UM, ANY EFFICIENCIES ARE GAINED THROUGH THOSE PROJECTS ARE GONNA HELP US OUT ON OUR SIDE AS WELL.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ADDITIONALLY, UH, TO WHAT ALICIA MENTIONED THERE, IS THAT THE ASPECT OF THE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, INCLUDING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, UH, THE IMPROVEMENT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS ACROSS, UH, THE MUNICIPALITY AS A WHOLE, LIKE THAT IS ENCOURAGING A CHANGE WITHIN THE BEHAVIOR PATTERNS AND WHAT VEHICLES ARE BEING USED THAT ARE THOSE HIGH EMITTERS.
SO AS YOU START TO SEE A CHANGE WITHIN THE NUMBERS ON HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE BATTERY ELECTRIC OR HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE, UM, LIKE HYDROGEN GAS POWDER, WHATNOT, WHERE WE, WHEN WE SEE THAT CHANGE, THERE'LL BE ALSO REPRESENTED, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ADMISSIONS PROFILES AS YOU'RE SEEING, UH, THE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION CHANGE.
AND SO THE CITY HAS A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF, UH, ENCOURAGE THAT BEHAVIORAL CHANGE AND ENCOURAGE ADOPTION OF THOSE ALTERNATIVE FUELS.
SO WHILE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT DIRECT LINE TO SAY LIKE SOMEBODY'S TRAVELING FROM PHOENIX UP TO SEDONA, UH, WE CAN KIND OF ENCOURAGE A, BE A CHANGE IN THE MODE OF TRAVEL, HOW THEY GET HERE, AND THEN ONCE THEY ENTER INTO THE CITY HOW THEY INTERACT WITHIN THAT SPACE TO REDUCE THE VEHICLE MILES THAT ARE ULTIMATELY, UH, UH, ULTIMATELY COVERED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT LEVEL OF GRANULARITY AND TRACKING, UH, THE, UH, THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, PROVIDES, UH, UPDATES TO LIKE THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE ON LIKE REGISTERED VEHICLES.
UH, I BELIEVE THE SHOULD BE DOWN TO THE COUNTY LEVEL.
BUT, UM, UH, WE SHOULD START TO SEE THE, THE CHANGE AND PERCENTAGE OF LIKE HOW MANY ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE ON THE ROAD, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE, UM, PASSENGER CARS, TRUCKS, AND ALIKE.
AND SO THAT, THOSE PERCENTAGES APPLIED TO THE OVERALL MILES, UH, DRIVEN WITHIN THE, UH, WITHIN THE CITY.
AND SO THEN AS WE SEE THAT CHANGE, WE'LL SEE THAT, UH, MISSION FACTOR CHANGE BASED OFF OF THE VEHICLE TYPE MIX THAT IS TREND THAT IS GOING THROUGH THE CITY MILES TRAVEL, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE NUMBERS WE'RE USING ARE ARIZONA STATE NUMBERS AS AN AVERAGE KIND OF, UH, TO GET THOSE TRACKINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR CERTAIN ROADS THAT THEY'VE TRACED.
THEY HAVEN'T DONE ALL THE ROADS, AS YOU SAID IN YOUR REPORT.
AND, AND THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO, WE DON'T GET CREDIT AS A COMMUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS BEING MUCH MORE, MAYBE WE GO A HUNDRED PERCENT ELECTRIC CARS IN SEDONA, BUT OUR TOURISTS KEEP COMING UP AND THEY'RE 10% ELECTRIC.
AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE'RE REALLY ACTUALLY SEDONA WHAT WE SHOULD BE MEASURING, UM, UH, SOLID WASTE.
YOU KNOW, 71% OF THE POOP IS TOURISTS AND 29% IS, IS RESIDENTS.
SO MAY, MAYBE IT'S TRUE OF THE TRANSIT AS WELL AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW DO WE SET THOSE METRICS TO REALLY MEASURE IT? I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PLAN TO GO FORWARD.
SO THAT ALMOST GRID, ARE YOU LOOKING AT PUTTING A SPREADSHEET TOGETHER? AND I KNOW SOME OF IT IN THE PAST HAS BEEN DONE THAT SAID, WE TAKE THIS ACTION, WE REDUCE THIS NUMBER OF METRIC TONGUES, BUT MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE 47% REQUIRED REDUCTION OF JUST THOSE THREE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE TWO, IF YOU, THE ELECTRICITY AND THE, AND THE TRAVEL.
THAT'S WHERE THE REAL BENEFIT'S GONNA COME TO US, THE, THE OTHER STUFF.
SO ARE WE FOCUSING PRIMARILY IN THOSE AREAS? AND I GUESS I SHOULD ASK, DO YOU HAVE PLANS TO GET THE RESIDENTS INVOLVED IN SOMEHOW AS WELL? NOT JUST MUNICIPAL, LIKE ELECTRIC CREDITS? UM, COUNCIL LINK, WE ARE EXPLORING, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK ABOUT PUBLICLY BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE RESEARCH PHASE.
UM, WE TRY TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH OTHER ENTITIES ON, WHETHER THAT'S INTERNALLY OR EXTERNALLY.
AND WE TRY TO CHOOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA GET US THE MOST BENEFITS OUT OF OUR DOLLAR AND OUR, OUR WORK TIME AND OUR MANPOWER.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE ARE CHOOSING PROJECTS RIGHT NOW.
NOW WITH THAT SAID, I, I DID INTEND TO PRESENT ON THIS LATER ON TODAY WE ARE, UM, STARTING NEXT WEEK, WE ARE TRYING TO IDENTIFY A PLAN FOR UPDATING OUR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AS WELL AS OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
SO WE'RE STILL EXPLORING HOW WE'LL PRESENT THAT IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY IN ACTION AND SAY, WE WILL GET THIS MUCH SAVINGS OUTTA THAT BECAUSE PLANS DON'T ALWAYS GO THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
SO THAT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO REALLY WORK WITH LEADERSHIP AND, AND COUNCIL TO DIS TO ESTABLISH DO WE WANNA PUT THE MANPOWER INTO TRYING TO DO THAT, OR SHOULD WE USE OUR MANPOWER IN A DIFFERENT WAY? SO ALL THAT STUFF IS STILL ON THE TABLE, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO EXPLORING THAT WITH COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP, UM, IN LATE
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JANUARY OF 2023.AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK MORE ABOUT THIS LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC NOW.
I'VE JUST GOT THREE CARDS, SO, UM, LET'S DO THAT NOW.
WHAT DO WANT THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION? WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE.
I EXPECT, CAUSE I'M, I'M VERY CURIOUS TO HEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC IS ONLY ONE TO SPEAK TO THAT PART WHERE THEY WANNA SPEAK TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT'LL ONLY BE PRESENTED IN WELL SINCE THERE WAS, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING MORE IN THE PACKET.
SO, NO, THERE'S A WHOLE, THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE, THERE'S EVERYTHING.
THERE'S, I'M REALLY EXCITED, MADAME, THE SLIDE PRESENTATION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
WHAT WAS INCLUDED WAS, UH, JUST ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT BRYCE WORKED ON WHENEVER HE DID THOSE UPDATES.
UM, I'VE GOT FOUR MORE IN MY INBOX TO REVIEW AND, UH, THEY'RE ABOUT 30 PAGES OF PIECE.
SO I'M, I'M CONSISTENTLY WORKING ON THOSE AND WE'LL TRY TO GET THOSE UPDATE, UM, I'M SORRY, UPLOADED ONTO OUR WEBSITE, UH, FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AS SOON AS THEY'RE FINISHED, UH, BEING REVIEWED AND APPROVED.
UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, UPDATES ON OUR PROGRAMMING THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO GIVE OUR NEW TEAM MEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR VERY FIRST TIME.
IF, UM, IF WE CAN ALLOW IT SO MAYOR CAN, JUST A SUGGESTION.
WE DO HAVE SOME SLIDES ON THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROGRAM.
I THINK IF WE COULD DO THOSE FIRST AND THEN MAYBE OKAY.
THEY JUST SAID THIS, THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, ON, ON THAT, JOANNE, THAT WAS OUR ACTUALLY VERY NEXT SLIDE.
UH, SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE, UH, HOW THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT, UH, PRO PROJECT HAS PROGRESSED.
SO THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT WAS LAUNCHED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, UH, WITH THE PROJECT GOALS, UH, AIMED AT REDUCING UTILITY COSTS, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND HOUSEHOLDS, AS WELL AS REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, IMPROVING LIVABILITY, AS WELL AS ALIGNING WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND SHOOTING FOR A, UH, STREAMLINED APPROACH OR RESPONSIVE PROGRAM.
UH, SO THE REPORT, UH, INFORMATION HERE WILL COME FROM THE, ESSENTIALLY OUR FIRST ROUND OF THE RESULTS.
SO THE, UH, AS MENTIONED, THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT, UH, FIRST ROUND, UH, WENT FROM MARCH TO ABOUT MID-JUNE.
UH, THE CUTOFF THERE IN MID-JUNE, UH, WAS DUE TO, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET INVOICED FOR THE WORK AND TIME, UH, FOR, UH, THE WORK THAT WOULD BE SCHEDULED WOULD BE INVOICED ULTIMATELY PAST THE DEADLINE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
UH, AND SO WE HAD IT TO WHERE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE ALL THE INVOICES COULD BE PAID WITHIN THAT FISCAL YEAR FOR THE FIRST, UH, RESPONSE OF OUR, UH, ROUND, FIRST ROUND OF OUR PROJECT.
SO FOR THE FIRST ROUND, THERE WERE 25 HOMES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM WITH OUR PARTNER COZY HOME.
UH, OUR PARTNER USES A SOFTWARE CALLED OPTIMIZER, UH, THAT WILL TAKE, I THINK OVER A, I THINK IT'S LIKE A HUNDRED OR SO ENTRY POINTS ON, UH, WHAT'S THE TYPE OF WALLS IN THE BUILDING, HOW OLD IS THE BUILDING, WHAT'S THE ELECTRICAL LOADS AND THE LIKE, AND INPUT IT INTO THIS PROGRAM TO GET ESTIMATIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF COSTS THAT THAT RESIDENTS IS SEEING IN ELECTRICITY TO IMPROVEMENTS IN LIVABILITY IN THE, LIKE THERE.
AND SO WITHIN THE 25 HOUSEHOLDS THAT PARTICIPATED, THREE OF THE 25 WERE STRICTLY JUST FOR HOME ENERGY AUDITS.
AND SO WE HAD SEPARATED IT INTO THREE, UH, THREE INITIAL BRACKETS FOR FUNDING, UH, BASED OFF OF THE AREA'S MEDIAN INCOME.
AND IT WAS KIND OF A SLIDING SCALE BASED ON THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE.
UH, AND THE, ANY RESIDENT THAT HAD A REPORTED INCOME, UH, DOCUMENT THAT WAS, UH, OVER UNDER 80% OF THE AREA'S MEDIAN INCOME QUALIFIED FOR THE TOTAL FUNDING AMOUNT, UH, FULL FUNDING AMOUNT OF 5,000 FOR THAT HOUSEHOLD RESIDENTS THAT WERE ABOVE THAT 80%, UH, AREA MEDIAN INCOME, BUT BETWEEN AN 80% AND A HUNDRED, UH, QUALIFIED FOR A $3,500, UM, FUNDING LEVEL.
AND THEN IN BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 120% WAS A $2,000 FUNDING LEVEL.
AND THEN ABOVE THAT, ANYONE ABOVE THE 120% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME QUALIFIED FOR JUST A HOME ENERGY AUDIT, WHICH WAS A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
YOU HAVE 11 AND THREE, THAT'S 14.
SO THE, UH, 11 HOUSEHOLDS WERE AT 11 HOUSEHOLDS WERE AT THE FULL FUNDING LEVEL, AND THREE WERE HOME ENERGY AND THE REST WERE, SO THE, THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE REST OF 'EM W WOULD FALL BETWEEN THE UH HUNDRED.
SO AS A WHOLE, UH, ESTIMATED REDUCTIONS TOTALED 43 METRIC TONS, UH, FOR THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2022 PARTICIPANTS, UH, AVERAGING ABOUT 1.7 METRIC TONS PER RESIDENTS.
UH, THE HOUSEHOLDS THEMSELVES, UH, WERE RIGHT AROUND, UH, I THINK IT WAS EIGHT AND A HALF METRIC TONS OR SO.
UH, SO THERE'S ABOUT A 20% REDUCTION ESTIMATED, UH, WITHIN THOSE HOUSEHOLDS.
UH, THE OPTIMIZER PROGRAM ALSO ESTIMATES, UH, CUMULATIVE, UH, ANNUAL SAVINGS.
SO, UH, THE RESIDENTS, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THIS OR ESTIMATED OR TO SEE BENEFITS ABOUT A $9,500 REDUCTION
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CUMULATIVELY IN THEIR UTILITY BILLS.OR ABOUT $382 PER RESIDENCE OR HOUSEHOLD.
UH, THE AVERAGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR A HOMEOWNER WAS JUST OVER TWO YEARS.
UH, AND SO MANY HOMEOWNERS WENT ABOVE, UH, THE ALLOTTED FUNDING AMOUNT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
UH, THEY WERE NOT OBLIGATED TO DO SO, UM, BUT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WERE WITHIN REACH, AND SO THEY WENT ABOVE THAT AMOUNT AND PARTICIPATED WITHIN THAT, UH, TO LEAD, UH, TO A, A PRETTY QUICK, UH, RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THEM.
UH, AND THEN, THEN SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITHIN IT, UH, RESULTED IN INSULATION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SUCH AS THE UPPER RIGHT AND KIND OF LOWER LEFT PICTURE, THE CHANGE BETWEEN NO INSULATION AND GETTING INSULATION IN THE ATTIC SPACE TO IMPROVEMENTS IN DUCT WORK IN AS WELL AS MANY SPLIT INSTALLATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE HOMES.
SO THAT THIS WAS AN INCENTIVE FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO COULD AFFORD IT TO GO FURTHER IN TERMS OF ENERGY SAVINGS IN, IN A SENSE, YES.
SO IF, IF, UH, IF AN IN, IF A HOUSEHOLD WASN'T ABLE TO, IF, UH, WAS UNDER THAT SAY, 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DISPOSAL INCOME, THEY COULD CHOOSE JUST TO GO UP TO THAT $5,000 LINE.
I'M SAYING THAT, THAT IT'S INCENTIVE TO MORE INVESTMENT IN ENERGY SAVINGS FOR THOSE THAT COULD AFFORD IT.
UH, SORRY FOR THIS TO UNDERSTAND THAT I APPRECIATE.
UM, AND SO SOME QUICK, UH, QUICK GRASS HERE ON, UH, WHAT THOSE, UH, KIND OF CHANGES OR WHAT, UH, ANTICIPATED SAVINGS LOOK LIKE IS THAT, UM, ON AVERAGE IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT THE ANNUAL TOTAL COST FOR UTILITIES, UH, THE, THE FONT GOT A LITTLE SMALLER THAN ANTICIPATED.
BUT IT WAS, UH, THE OPTIMIZER SOFTWARE WAS ESTIMATED ABOUT $1,800, UH, SPENT ON ANNUAL UTILITY COSTS FOR THE RESPECT OF HOMES.
AND THEN AFTER, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE, THE, THE LARGEST UTILITY, UH, WITHIN THE HOME WAS ELECTRICITY.
UH, AND THEN THE ANNUAL SAVINGS ESTIMATED HERE PER RESIDENT IS ABOUT $382, UH, FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLD.
UH, ESTIMATED ENERGY SAVINGS, UH, AND UTILITY COSTS FOR THE HOUSEHOLD WAS ESTIMATED ABOUT 21% THERE.
REALLY GOOD FOR THE, THIS IS THE ILLUSTRATE, AS YOU SAID, UH, UH, COUNSELOR, UH, IS THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
SO THE, UH, AVERAGE PROJECT COST WAS A LITTLE OVER $3,800, UH, WITH THE CITY FUNDING HERE BEING A LITTLE OVER 3000.
SO ON AVERAGE, UH, THE RESIDENT WOULD WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ALLOTTED FUNDING AND SPENT ABOUT $768 OF THEIR OWN, UH, FINANCES TO HELP COVER IT.
UH, AND WITHIN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE BUDGET, UH, THE TOTAL EXPENSES THAT WERE, UH, FOR THE FUNDS WAS, UH, WE SPENT SIX 76,810 OF THE $90,000 I WAS BUDGETED IN THE FIRST ROUND.
YOU COULD HAVE SPIT, OH, I'M SORRY, THE, OKAY.
THAT WAS THE FIRST ROUND NUMBER, AND THEN YOU HAVE A SECOND ROUND NUMBER LATER ON IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
BUT MY, WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS HAVE WE EXCEEDED THE BUDGETED AMOUNT OR ARE WE CLOSE TO, BECAUSE SINCE IT'S ROUND ONE, ROUND TWO, I WANNA KNOW HOW IT STACKS UP IN THE FISCAL YEAR AND IF WE BUDGETED THIS, UH, APPROPRIATELY, OR IF IN FACT, THE PROGRAM, WHICH SEEMS TO BE WIDELY SUCCESSFUL, NEEDS MORE MONEY.
UH, SO THE, UH, FINANCES HERE ON THIS INITIAL 76,000, 90,000, THAT WAS STRICTLY FIRST ROUND FY 22, UH, FOR FY 23, OUTTA THAT SAME $90,000 BUDGET.
WE HAVE ABOUT 56,000 OF THAT CURRENTLY ALLOTTED FOR RESIDENTS IN THE PROGRAM.
SO THERE'S ABOUT 16 RESIDENT THAT ARE IN THE SECOND ROUND OF THE PROGRAM, AND THAT 90,000 IS STRICTLY FOR THE FY 23 BUDGET, SO OF THAT 56.
SO, BUT DO YOU ESTIMATE, DO YOU THINK, ANTICIPATE THAT THE DEMAND WILL BE GREATER THAN THE REMAINING BALANCE? UH, AT THE MOMENT THERE ARE NO, UH, NO INDIVIDUALS ON THE WAIT LIST OR WAITING TO BE PROCESSED.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE SENDING OUT AN ADDITIONAL MARKETING, UH, BOOST HERE SHORTLY BASED OFF OF THAT.
UH, THE REASON WHY WE KEPT IT AT, UH, THE, THE REQUEST TO COUNCIL AT THE LAST BUDGET SESSION WAS THAT 90,000, IS THAT WITH THE LATE START OF THIS PROGRAM AND THE FIRST FISCAL YEAR, WE REALLY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THERE'S A STRONG FOUNDATIONAL PROJECT HERE BEFORE WE PUSH TOO FAR WITH IT AND EXPEND OR ANTICIPATE NEEDING FUNDS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE WANT.
SO IT'S WANT TO BE LIKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH WITHIN THAT.
UH, IF COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS TO PROVIDE MORE FUNDING FOR IT, UH, WE WILL DEFINITELY, UH, BE OPEN TO HOW TO, UM, HOW TO UTILIZE THOSE SOURCES WITHIN THAT.
UM, I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE AT THE MOMENT WE WILL GET TO OUR 90,000, UH, BUDGET BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
BECAUSE WOULD YOU BE BRINGING THAT BACK AT SOME TIME? IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT IS APPROACHING THAT? BECAUSE I JUST, I, I DO THINK WHEN YOU HAVE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THAT THERE'S INTEREST AND
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IT'S GETTING RESULTS AND PEOPLE ARE INVESTING IN AND MATCHING AND PUTTING THEIR OWN MONEY IN, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD EXPENSE, THAT'S A GOOD EXPENDITURE FOR ON THE CITIES PART.SO I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE MONEY, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY SORT OF RELUCTANCE OF, OF COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE CONSIDERED.
I ALSO, UM, AS A, AS ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WHEN YOU, YOU SAID YOU PUT OUT ADVERT, YOU'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER MARKETING THING OUT, UM, I WOULDN'T WANT, I WOULD WANT YOU TO CONTINUE MARKETING, EVEN IF YOU'VE USED THE 90,000 AND TO COME BACK AND GET MORE MONEY MM-HMM.
BUT IN ANY CASE, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNSELOR CANELA.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AS MORE PEOPLE DO IT, IT MAY PICK UP WORD OF MOUTH.
I DON'T, I, I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO STOP MARKETING IT BECAUSE YOU RUN OUTTA MONEY, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU, I DON'T WANNA SAY TARGETED, BUT I GUESS IT'S TARGETED THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR CITY VERSUS THE BRAND NEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE COULD, BECAUSE THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS BUILT IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, MY NEIGHBORHOODS BUILT IN IN THE SEVENTIES, THOSE HOUSES COULD BE RETROFITTED EASIER OR MORE NEED OF A RETROFIT THAN HOUSES BUILT 10 YEARS AGO.
IS THERE, I'M NOT JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH HOUSES, BUT NEIGHBORHOODS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE? OR IS IT, IS THERE INTEREST IN DOING OR PAYS TO DO OR YOU HAVE TO JUST BLANKET EVERYBODY? SO AT THE MOMENT, THE PROGRAM IS, IS DEFINITELY IT'S OPEN TO ANY RESIDENT THAT WANTS TO APPLY FOR IT.
UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ADDITIONAL, UH, LOOKING TO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON BEING ABLE TO TARGET GROUPS THAT MAY NOT HAVE LIKE INTERNET SERVICE, OR THEY MAY NOT HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, AND HAVE THAT OPTION, UH, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE WITHIN THAT.
BUT AS THE WHOLE, UH, WE WANT ALL RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONAL PARTS OF WHERE OUR OUTREACH CAN GO, UH, COULD BE EXPANDED TO, TO HELP TARGET AREAS THAT, THAT, UH, MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE MESSAGING IN THE FIRST HAND OR, UH, MAY NOT WANNA SUBMIT DETAILS VIA EMAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, INTERACTIONS THERE, OR TOUCHPOINTS.
YOU SAID EVERY RESIDENT TO PARTICIPATE OR SOMETHING, I'M ARE EVEN SAYING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY IN THE CITY THAT WANTS TO DO IT? SO ANYONE, UH, IN THE CITY CAN PARTICIPATE IN IT.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST, UH, BASED OFF OF THE REPORTED INCOME, UH, WILL, UH, IDENTIFY WHAT THEY QUALIFY FOR WITHIN FUNDING.
SO IF, UH, THEY'RE OVER THE 120% OF THE AREA MEDIA INCOME, THEY WOULD QUALIFY, UM, UH, WITH AN APPROVED APPLICATION, AT LEAST THAT HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE HE HOME ENERGY AUDIT TO SEE LIKE WHAT THEIR HOME IS DOING, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE, AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
BUT ALL RESIDENTS IS, UH, ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND WILL THE PROGRAMS, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S SUBMITTED IS REVIEWED TO SEE WHAT THE FUNDING LEVEL IS.
BUT, UH, ALL RESIDENTS WOULD BE ENCOURAGED.
THIS IS WHERE I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THESE PROGRAMS ARE GREAT.
THE WHOLE IDEA THIS ONE WAS TO HELP REDUCE CO2 METRIC TONS, RIGHT? IT'S STILL CONNECTED TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND OUR GOAL OF, FOR 2030.
MY CONCERN IS, AND I APPLAUD MY FELLOW COUNSELORS FOR THEIR ZEAL AND LIKING THE PROGRAM LONGER, ADD MORE MONEY, BUT, UH, IF WE WERE TO GET TO OUR GOAL WITH JUST THIS APPROACH, IT WOULD COST US 145 MILLION.
SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS SAY, WHAT IS A REASONABLE METRIC TON COST? IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED IN THE BUDGET TO TRY AND GET THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST PASSED $10,000 FOR 1,325 METRIC TONS, WHICH WAS $7 AND 55 CENTS A METRIC TON VERSUS $1,800, ALMOST A TON.
SO WHERE'S THAT BALANCE? AND I WANT TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD BUY CREDITS FOR $614,000, WE COULD MAKE OUR GOAL IF, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR TWO 50 METRIC TON AND JUST GET OTHER CITIES AND WE SPONSOR 'EM.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT CLEARLY.
BUT I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA IF I WANT THE, OUR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE COMMITTED, BUT THERE ARE SOME FISCAL LIMITATIONS OF HOW WE DO THIS MIX.
AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU THINK AN AVERAGE COST PER TON IS IN THE OVERALL, I GOT THIS ONE WORSE.
UM, SO FIRST I, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT THE REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS WAS NOT THE SOLE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM.
THE OTHER ADDITIONAL GOALS WERE TO HELP OUR LOW AND MEDIUM INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, UM, NOT ONLY INCREASE THEIR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN THEIR HOME, BUT ALSO THEIR HOME'S COMFORT IN THE, IN THE, THE WINTER AND THE SUMMER.
SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOCIETAL GOALS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THIS.
I ALSO WANNA PUT A CAVEAT THAT THERE IS IDENTIFIED BOUNDARY FOR OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE OF
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THE LACK OF TRANSLATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR, UH, HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE.SO WE'RE EXPLORING OPTIONS TO, UH, REMOVE THAT BARRIER.
WE'RE ACTIVELY EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS AND WORKING WITH OUR, UM, OUR PARTNER AT N A I C UP IN FLAGSTAFF TO, TO WORK ON THAT.
WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE POTENTIAL OF, UM, PROPOSING A INTERNAL PRICE OF CARBON DEVELOPED FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA.
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DO THAT TO HELP WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE NEXT, UM, CALENDAR YEAR IN FY 23, JUST BASED ON OUR WORKLOAD RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND AS I SAID, WE APPLAUD THAT EFFORT AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO NOT DO IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED BALANCE.
AND SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE NOT JUST NEXT YEAR, BUT THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE GOALS SET TO GET THERE BY 2030.
WELL, THE, THE INTERNAL PRICE OF CARBON WOULD BE A SET PRICE THAT DOES NOT CHANGE YEAR CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR.
IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF SEDONA BASED ON OUR PRINCIPLES AND OUR GOALS.
UM, IT'D BE JUST SOMETHING THAT WE SET FOR OURSELVES FOR ACCOUNTING AND, UM, MORE FINANCIAL PURPOSES, UM, IS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF, UH, REVIEW THAT WE CAN ADD TO OUR PROJECT.
SO IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA AND WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE MORE TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH AND DOING THAT THE RIGHT WAY.
SO WE HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES HERE ON THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT.
SO ON TOP OF THE, THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND MAKING SURE THAT FUNCTIONING WAS RECEIVING THE ENERGY, UH, BENEFITS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND THE MISSION REDUCTION AND LIVABILITY, WE ALSO WANNA SEE, DID IT WORK? WERE PEOPLE SATISFIED WITH IT? LIKE HAVE THAT MORE CONNECTION TO IT.
SO, UH, WE SENT OUT A SURVEY TO THE 25 HOUSEHOLDS, UH, 13 OF THEM, LARGELY AS 13, RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY THEMSELVES.
UH, SO THIS FIRST QUESTION THAT WE POSED TO HIM WAS JUST, HOW SATISFIED WERE YOU WITH THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT SURVEY? SO ON SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE, ONE BEING NOT SATISFIED AT ALL, THREE, NEITHER SATISFIED OR DISSATISFIED, AND FIVE BEING VERY SATISFIED, 11 OF THE 13 RESPONSES THAT, UH, THEY CAME ACROSS AS VERY SATISFIED WITH THE PROGRAM.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ALSO WANTED TO SEE IN THE FOLLOWING AREA IS JUST HOW SATISFIED WERE THEY, UH, INCLUDING THE APPLICATION PROCESS HERE ON THE FAR LEFT TO SCHEDULING TO THE WORK PERFORM TO THE PROJECT RESULTS, TO THE PROJECT COMMUNICATION CITY OF SEDONA STAFF, AS WELL AS, UM, COZY HOME STAFF.
UH, THE WORK PERFORMED WITH THE RATING OF TWO.
THOSE WERE LARGELY FOR, UH, DESIRING THAT THE PROGRAM COVER WINDOWS, UH, THE PROGRAM DOES NOT COVER WINDOWS.
UH, TRADITIONALLY WINDOWS HAVE A LOW RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF, UH, THE WEATHERIZATION OF THE HOUSEHOLD.
FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, NOT AS MUCH OF A ENERGY SAVINGS COST THERE, UH, OR RETURN ON THERE.
BUT LARGELY, UH, THE PROGRAM'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, IT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED OF THE APPLICANTS OR, OR PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THE, THE, UH, FIRST ROUND.
AND LASTLY, UH, WE ASKED, UH, WOULD YOU RECOMMEND, UH, REFERRING OTHER PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE? UH, 13, ALL 13 RESPONSES SAID THAT THEY, THEY WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND IT.
SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT, UH, THE SUCCESS THERE.
AND THAT HAS, UH, BEEN A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR RESIDENTS.
UH, AND THEN AS MENTIONED, UH, WE'RE, WHAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE IS, UH, THEY ALSO HAD, UM, MULTIPLE MARKETING OUTLETS REACH THEM.
LIKE NEXT DOOR, GOT TO A FEW OF THE PARTICIPANTS, UH, FACEBOOK POSTS DID, UH, WORD OF MOUTH, GOT TO A FEW OF THE, UH, FOLKS AS WELL AS THE CITY PRESS RELEASE.
SO, UH, HOW THEY, UH, SAW THE INFORMATION WAS KIND OF VARIED, AND IT WAS KIND OF COOL TO SEE THAT, UH, AS WELL.
AND THEN AS MENTIONED ABOUT 16 HOUSEHOLDS ARE IN THE SECOND ROUND, UH, WITH 56,000, UH, BUDGETED ARE ALLOTTED OUT OF OUR $90,000 BUDGET SO FAR.
AND WE'RE RESEARCHING BEST OPTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THE INCOME TIERS PROVED EFFECTIVE, UM, BY BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO FOLKS THAT WERE MOST NEED OF IT.
UH, LITTLE NOTE IS THAT MOBILE HOMES TRADITIONALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT, UH, TOUGHER TIME WITH HOME REPAIRS, NOT AS MUCH SPACE, UH, TO ADD INSTALLATION.
SO A LOT OF TIMES MAYBE MINI SPLIT MIGHT WORK THERE, BUT THERE'S JUST A, A SLIGHT CHANGES WITHIN THE HOME STRUCTURE THAT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, NEWER HOMES MAY NOT BENEFIT FROM THE PROJECT AS MUCH.
IF IT WAS BUILT IN, SAY, LIKE 2010 OR 2015, UH, IT WAS BUILT TO CODE AT THAT TIME.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE AS MUCH OF A REDUCTION AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, VICE MAYOR, UM, WHERE THOSE HOMES MIGHT NOT SEE AS MUCH OF A BENEFIT THERE.
SO IT'S JUST TRYING TO BALANCE, UH, BALANCE THOSE COMPONENTS THERE.
SO, UH, COUNCILOR LAMPKIN AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, UH, THAT TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE HOMES THAT WERE BRAND NEW, WOULDN'T IT BE EFFECTIVE TO SEND A BUNCH OF MONEY, UH, TO THAT RESIDENT WITHIN A BRAND NEW HOME? YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A LOT OF, UH, OR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE EFFICIENCY OF THAT HOME.
THEY MAY NOT MEET THE INCOME LIMIT EITHER.
UM, AND SO THAT IS THE LAST OF THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT.
SO ALL PAR BANER AND, AND LET COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP DECIDE HOW WE RUN TO PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION.
WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? YOU WANNA HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC OR DO
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YOU WANNA GO ON WITH THE PRESENTATION? I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC MAY WANNA BE SPEAKING TO SOME OF THE, BECAUSE IT WAS ALL LISTED OUT.WE GOT ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR TO GO.
BUT THINK I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANNA SPEAK TO THAT OR NOT.
SO I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HEAR THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION IN CASE THEY WANNA COMMENT ON IT.
WHY DON'T YOU CALL THEM AND SEE IF THEY WANNA COMMENT NOW OR THEY WANT YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WELL, STEVE SLEEVES IS THE FIRST ONE.
WHY DON'T YOU TURN THE LIGHTS ON, PLEASE? CERTAINLY.
STEVE, DO YOU WANNA COMMENT NOW OR WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION? HAVE A MINUTE OR TWO AND BEGIN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
HE SAID, UH, PEGGY, IF YOU MARK, OKAY.
THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL, YES.
TO CONTINUE ON, WE WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL GIVING OUR OTHER TEAM MEMBERS A CHANCE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE REALLY AMAZING WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THEIR SHORT TIME HERE FOR US.
UM, THE NEXT PILOT PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON, UM, THIS CYCLE HAS NOT FULLY RAN ITS COURSE.
THE CYCLE WILL END ON JUNE 30TH, 2023, BUT THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY FOOD SCRIPTS COMPOSTING PILOT THAT LAUNCHED, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY OF THIS YEAR.
SO JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, ENDED AND THE NEW ONE BEGAN.
UM, SO THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN OVER BY ZACH FROM GABE, AND HE'S DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO BRING IT FROM ABOUT HALFWAY FILLED ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, I THINK HE IS ABOUT TO GET HIS VERY LAST PARTICIPANT THIS WEEK, UM, BECAUSE HE'S DONE THE LEGWORK.
HE'S MADE SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL, UM, ADVERTISEMENTS AND HE'S DONE SURVEYS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM EXACTLY WHAT THE PARTICIPANTS WANT IT TO BE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BEST DATA AVAILABLE OUT OF IT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, UM, IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.
SO, AND THAT'S 50 50 PARTICIPANTS IS THE MAX, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
I WILL LET ZACH GO AHEAD AND, UH, GIVE YOU ALL THE PROGRAM DETAILS RIGHT NOW.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MATTA MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, SO, UH, GETTING INTO THE COMPOSTING PILOT PROJECT, UM, LIKE ALICIA SAID, IT LAUNCHED IN, UH, EARLY OF THIS YEAR, 2022.
UM, AND WE JUST RECENTLY RESIGNED OUR CONTRACT WITH, UH, COMPOST CROWD, WHICH IS OUR LOCAL PARTNER, UH, THAT PICKS UP OUR COMPOST FOR US, UM, SO THAT, UH, OUR PROGRAM CAN CONTINUE TO RUN, LIKE ALICIA SAID, UH, UNTIL JUNE OF 2023.
UH, SO THIS PROJECT, UH, PILOT PROJECT WAS INITIALLY LAUNCHED, UM, AFTER RECEIVING A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK DURING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHERE A LOT OF RESIDENTS EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO SEE AN EXPANSION OF, UH, RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE, UH, WENT AHEAD AND LAUNCHED THIS PILOT PROJECT AND, UH, CREATED THE, UH, DROP OFF MAIN DROP OFF LOCATION, UH, AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK, UM, WHERE REGISTERED RESIDENTS CAN COME AND DROP OFF THEIR, UH, COMPOST AND FOODS SCRAPS PRETTY MUCH WHENEVER THEY WANT.
UM, SO JUST REVIEWING A COUPLE BENEFITS, UM, WITH, UH, THAT, THAT COME WITH COMPOSTING.
UM, WITHOUT COMPOSTING, OUR, UH, FOOD SCRAPS ARE GENERALLY, UH, GOING TO LANDFILLS, UH, WHERE THEY WILL EVENTUALLY BE BROKEN DOWN AND LEAD TO, UH, LARGE QUANTITIES OF EMISSIONS IN, UH, MOSTLY IN THE FORM OF METHANE GAS, WHICH IS A, UH, EXTREMELY POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS.
SO BY HAVING A COMPOSTING PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UH, WE ARE PREVENTING THOSE TYPES OF EMISSIONS FROM RECURRING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, AND WE ARE INSTEAD DIVERTING OUR FOOD SCRAPS, OUR FOOD WASTE, UH, TO A COMPOSTING FACILITY, UH, WHERE THEY, UH, WHERE OUR FOOD SCRAPS WILL, UH, BE BROKEN DOWN IN A DIFFERENT PROCESS, UM, WHERE IT WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO EXTREMELY RICH, UH, FERTILIZER, WHICH CAN BE USED BY LOCAL FARMERS, UH, TO, UH, REJUVENATE THEIR SOILS.
UM, LIKE WE SAID, WE HAD, UH, 50 HOUSEHOLDS SLOTS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE TO DATE, UH, 49 HOUSEHOLDS SIGNED UP WITH US.
UH, THE LAST, UH, THE 50TH, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE LAST SLOT, UH, WILL BE, SHOULD BE FILLED, UH, TOMORROW, UM, BRINGING US TO, UH, 104 RESIDENTS.
BUT TODAY WE HAVE 102 RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING WITH US.
UM, AND SO FAR, UH, WITHIN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS, UH, WE'VE ALREADY DIVERTED OVER 2000 POUNDS OF FOOD WASTE, UH, FROM THE LANDFILLS, UM, WITH VERY LOW, UM, SORRY, WITH VERY LOW, UH, CONTAMINATION RATES.
AND SO WE GET THAT DATA FROM COMPOST CROWD, AGAIN, OUR LOCAL PARTNER, UM, ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE, UH, SENT OUT A SURVEY TO ALL OF THE PART, UH, REGISTERED
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RESIDENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, AND WE GOT SOME GREAT FEEDBACK AND, UH, DATA FROM THAT SURVEY.UH, TWO, SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ON THE SLIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE.
UM, AND THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE POSED WAS, HOW SATISFIED ARE YOU WITH THIS PROGRAM THUS FAR? AND, UH, SO FAR, 88% OF OUR RESPONDENTS, UH, RESIDENTS RESPONDED BY, UH, SAYING THAT THEY ARE EITHER SATISFIED OR, UH, EXTREMELY SATISFIED, WHICH IS GREAT FOR US.
UH, SO WE KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING A LOT OF, UH, GOOD THINGS WITH OUR PROGRAM.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WE ASKED WAS TO JUST GAUGE THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION, UH, WITHIN OUR PROGRAM.
UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE 72% OF OUR RESIDENTS RESPONDING THAT THEY ARE DROPPING OFF COMPOST EITHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, WHICH IS GREAT FOR US TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE AREN'T JUST REGISTERING WITH OUR PROGRAM AND THEN NOT PARTICIPATING.
PEOPLE ARE REMAINING EXTREMELY ACTIVE DURING THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE LAST QUESTIONS THAT WE POSED IN OUR SURVEY WAS JUST, UH, AN OPEN NOTE QUESTION OR JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO, UH, GIVE US COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND OVERALL RESIDENTS EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO SEE THE PROGRAM EXPANDED.
THEY EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO SEE, UH, MORE, UM, MATERIALS ACCEPTED BY OUR PROGRAM, LIKE YARD WASTE AND PAPER PRODUCTS, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T ACCEPT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THEY EXPRESS A DESIRE TO SEE JUST MORE DROP OFF LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
LIKE I SAID, WE JUST HAVE ONE SINGULAR, UH, DROP OFF LOCATION AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK.
UM, AND THEN I DID WANNA NOTE THAT, UH, THROUGHOUT THOSE COMMENTS, PEOPLE, UH, RESIDENTS DID EXPRESS, UH, QUITE A, A HIGH LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT AND APPRECIATION FOR THIS PROGRAM IN GENERAL.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THE PROGRAM.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO COLLECT, UH, THAT MONTHLY DATA FROM, UH, COMPOST CROWD.
AND THEN, UH, WHEN IT COMES TIME, WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING, UH, A DATA DRIVEN RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, AT OUR SPRING UPDATE SESSION.
I'M ONE OF THOSE 49 PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM, AND I'M VERY SATISFIED.
I GO THERE TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK BECAUSE I SEEM TO GENERATE A LOT OF VEGETABLE, VEGETABLE,
UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ON THE NEW LOCK.
AND I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THIS, IT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET A CONTAINER, YOU KNOW, THESE DON'T WORK.
I HAD TO GET LIKE, SOMETHING FROM, FROM HOME DEPOT, A BIG ORANGE THING.
BUT IT'S REALLY JUST A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PROGRAM.
AND I WOULD, I FEEL WHEN I LOOK AT MY MELLON RINS AND CUCUMBER SKINS, I FEEL SO GOOD ABOUT NOT PUTTING IT IN THE LANDFILL AND ABOUT MAKING SOIL OUT OF IT SO THAT, WHICH IS BETTER THAN THAT AR FISHER FERTILIZER.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO PUT A PLUG FOR THIS PROGRAM, A PERSONAL ANECDOTE.
SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH REGIONAL ENTITIES ON, AND HERE TO PRESENT ON OUR FOREMOST RECENT PROJECTS IS BRYCE.
UH, SO ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WORKED ON WAS THE SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS.
UH, AND SO THIS IS, UH, WAS THE SECOND ROUND OF A NORTHERN ARIZONA CO-OP, AND THE CITY PARTNERED WITH, UH, SUN, UH, FOR SHORT WHEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IN COCONINO COUNTY, AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN ALL THIS WAS JUST TO HELP BRING AWARENESS, UH, TO THE OPPORTUNITY OF ADDING ROOFTOP SOLAR TO RESPECTIVE HOMES.
UH, NONE OF THE, UH, GOVERNMENTS CHOSE THE, THE PROVIDER FOR IT.
THE RESIDENTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE, THE CO-OP, UH, FORMED A BOARD, UM, AND REVIEWED RESPECTIVE, UH, PROPOSALS IN THE LIKE.
AND THEN THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES GOT TO CHOOSE THE, UM, ULTIMATELY, UH, CHOOSE THE INSTALLATION PROVIDER AND ICON POWER.
UH, AND SO, UH, THE GOAL OF IT WOULD, UH, WOULD BE TO HELP FACILITATE LOWER INSTALLATION COSTS WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BE PURCHASED AT SCALE WITH MULTIPLE RESIDENCES, UH, PARTICIPATING VERSUS A ONE OFF FOR, UH, RESPECT OF LIKE SOLAR INSTALLATION COMPANY.
AND SO, AS OF, UH, SEPTEMBER 16, WOW, UH, THERE WERE 221 MEMBERS THAT SIGNED UP, UH, FOR THE CO-OP JUST TO GET, UH, FIRST TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT AND GET, HEAR MORE DETAILS.
UH, 57 RESIDENT HAVE SIGNED INSTALLATION CONTRACTS, UH, THAT WERE TOTAL ABOUT 383 KILOWATTS
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WORTH OF SOLAR SYSTEMS, UH, TO BE INSTALLED ON THEIR HOME.SO WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THE, THE PROGRESS IN THAT SECOND ROUND.
UH, AND, UH, REALLY COOL ASPECT OF JUST RESIDENCES BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, SELECT THE CHOSEN PROVIDERS AND HAVE THAT WHERE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD JUST KIND OF PROVIDING AWARENESS OF THE PROGRAM, UH, FOR RESPECTIVE HOMES AND THE LIKE, UH, ADDITIONALLY I TOUCHED ON EARLIER, IS THAT WE PARTNER WITH ASU INDUSTRIAL ASSESSMENT CENTER.
THEY'RE, UH, SPONSORED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.
UH, THEY LOOKED AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND CITY HALL COMPLEX.
UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THE FINAL REPORTS.
SO OUR NEXT REVIEW, UH, NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO REVIEW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE REPORTS, UH, WITH OUR WASTEWATER STAFF AND FACILITY STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN ACCOMMODATING, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
AND I CANNOT THANK THEM ENOUGH FACILITATING ALL THE DATA COLLECTION NEEDS AND EVERYTHING THAT WENT INTO IT.
UH, SO THE GOAL IS TO, TO BUILD UPON THE 2019 MID-STATE ENERGY PROJECTS, UH, THAT WERE DONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, UH, THAT INCLUDED LIKE HVAC UPGRADES AND LIGHTING UPGRADES TO SEE HOW WE CAN EXPAND UPON THAT.
SO SOME OF THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS, UH, WOULD BE BILLING PLAN ADJUSTMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT A RATE CHANGE WITHIN A A RESPECTIVE ACCOUNT MIGHT LEAD TO SAVINGS, AS WELL AS HEATING AND COOLING, UH, SET POINT AUTOMATION, ADDITIONAL HVAC UPGRADES, SAY OUTTA THE WASTEWATER FACILITY.
SOLAR DRYING BEDS IS A POTENTIAL OPTION AS WELL.
UH, SINCE THE, UM, A LOT OF THE WASTE, UH, IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A CENTER, FUGE HAS A LOT OF MORE WATER CONTENT, SO IT'S HEAVIER, AND THE HOLOCAUST ARE LARGER TO GET TO THE LANDFILL.
SO IF THEY CAN USE THE SOLAR BEDS LONGER, THEY CAN DRY OUT THAT, UH, COMPONENT THAT WOULD LEAD TO, UH, A REDUCTION IN COSTS THERE.
UH, WINDOW ATTACHMENTS, UM, BACKWATER FILTRATION SYSTEMS AS WELL AS, UH, I FORGOT THE, THE BULLET POINT THERE, BUT SEE IF WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD PUT SOLAR, UH, ON CITY SITES IN THE LAKE.
WHAT ARE WINDOW ATTACHMENTS? SO WINDOW ATTACHMENTS COULD BE SIMPLE THINGS JUST SAYS LIKE UPGRADES AND BLINDS TO LIKE AN ACTUAL WINDOW FILM, UH, ALMOST LIKE TENTING ON A CAR OR WHATNOT.
BUT, UH, THERE'S ALSO SOME LIKE PHASE CHANGE MATERIALS, UH, THAT YOU COULD PUT ON A WINDOW THAT WOULD KIND OF, UH, SWITCH DIFFERENT IT'S, UH, PHYSICAL STRUCTURE OR WHATNOT TO HAVE ENERGY SAVINGS THERE.
SO, UH, COULD BE VERY SIMPLE TO KIND OF COMPLEX OR WHATNOT, BUT, UH, JUST IMPROVEMENTS TO WINDOWS THERE.
UH, WE ALSO FINISHED UP OUR FY 22 PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL.
UH, AND SO THIS AGREEMENT, UH, LARGELY, UH, FACILITATE ASSISTED WITH MS FOUR REPORTING AS DONE BY PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE STORM WATER DISCHARGE PROGRAM.
UH, AND THEY CONDUCTED OUTREACH AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND, UM, ON IMPACTS OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ACTIVITIES TO MUNICIPAL STORM WATER SYSTEMS, AS WELL AS PROVIDED EDUCATION ON BE BEST PRACTICES FOR MITIGATING, UH, THOSE IMPACTS.
UH, THEY ALSO CONDUCTED A NUMBER OF CLEANUP EVENTS, UH, ACROSS THE CITY, UH, WHERE OVER THREE CLEANUP EVENTS, UH, UNDER THE CONTRACT, THEY REMOVED 236 POUNDS OF WASTE, UH, AND THEY HAD 235 PEOPLE, UM, THAT THEY REACHED IN TABLING EVENTS IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS THAT THEY DEVELOPED IN RELATION TO THIS PROGRAM REACHED OVER 11,000, UH, VIEWS.
UH, AND SO THERE'S A PRODUCTIVE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT AND HOPING TO CONTINUE HERE, UH, INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND LASTLY, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THESE KIND OF FLOATING AROUND, IS THAT WE PARTNERED, UH, WITH LEAVE NO TRACE, UH, AND AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF FOLKS ON SOME LIKE COMMON MESSAGING MATERIALS, UH, TO HELP, UM, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL, UH, RESOURCES OR JUST INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE ENGAGING IN THE AREA TO RECREATE SP RESPONSIBLY.
UH, AND SO WE PARTNERED WITH, THERE'S AN APARTMENT ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, THE, THE SEDONA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL, STATE PARKS, US FOREST SERVICE, AS WELL AS LEAVE NO TRACE.
UH, THE DEVELOPED MATERIALS WERE DISTRIBUTED ACROSS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AVENUES, AND ASU IS CONDUCTING A SURVEY ON, ON THE MESSAGING ON BEHALF OF ADQ.
WE'RE ALSO ANTICIPATING ADDITIONAL DATA ON HOW MANY PEOPLE VIEWED IT AND THE RESPONSE TIMES TO, UH, DIGITAL MARKETING THAT WE HAVE WITH THE MARKETING CONTRACTOR.
UH, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN IT IN LIKE STREET SIGNS OR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND DIGITAL ADVERTISING OVER THE LAST, UH, MONTH OR SO, AND WE'RE TESTED IN THAT.
UH, YOU'LL SEE, UH, MARKETING EFFORTS HERE ON THE SIDE, LIKE TRASH YOUR TRASH OR HAVING A WASTE PLAN AND, AND THE LIKE THERE.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, UH, AND REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT ONE MOVE FORWARD.
NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO SOME OF OUR ONGOING PROJECTS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, CLIPS WRONG, RIGHT? SO THIS PROJECT'S REALLY EXCITING.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, NOT TOO LONG AGO, I CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND REQUESTED AN EASEMENT APPROVAL FOR THE INSTALLATION OF DC FAST CHARGERS.
THOSE ARE EV VEHICLE, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE INSTALLED AT, UM, POSSE GROUND PARK.
THIS, UM, PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION COMPLETED BY OCTOBER 10TH.
FOLLOWING THAT, THEY'LL DO A TWO WEEK COMMISSIONING PERIOD.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE CREW COMES IN, THEY CHECK ALL THE EQUIPMENT, MAKE SURE IT'S FUNCTIONING PERFECTLY, AND, UH, DO ALL THEIR CHECKS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO, AND THEN THEY'RE, UH, ALLOWED TO LET US START USING THAT EQUIPMENT SO THAT
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ALL OF THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED BY OCTOBER 30TH.HOWEVER, APS HAS REQUESTED THAT WE DO A GRAND OPENING EVENT.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR MARKETING TEAM.
WE'RE GONNA BRING IN OUR, UM, COMMON PR TEAM AS WELL TO TRY TO GET, GET THAT SCHEDULED.
IDEALLY, UM, SHORTLY AFTER COMPLETION.
UM, ALLOW TIME FOR THE EVENTS THAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED FOR HALLOWEEN ON OCTOBER 30TH.
SO WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER FOR THAT.
UM, WHAT THE RESULT OF THIS PROJECT'S COMPLETION IS, IS THAT WE'RE ADDING FOUR DC FAST CHARGERS.
THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN OUR LEVEL TWO CHARGERS, BUT WE'RE ADDING FORWARD TO OUR TOTAL MUNICIPAL INVENTORY.
SO THAT'S GONNA BRING US UP TO 10 CHARGERS.
UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, DON'T REMEMBER, AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE HAVE FOUR EV CHARGERS INSTALLED AT CITY HALL, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TWO EV CHARGERS INSTALLED UPTOWN AT JORDAN ROAD.
UM, ADDITIONALLY I DIDN'T CREATE A SLIDE FOR IT BECAUSE I WASN'T READY TO PRESENT ON IT, BUT WE JUST FOUND OUT THIS WEEK THAT, UM, APS IS READY TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON THE, UM, THE LEVEL TWO CHARGER INSTALLATION AT SUNSET PARK.
HOW ARE, WE ARE STILL WAITING ON CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO NOTICING TO ALLOW PARK USERS TO KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, SOME, SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE PARKING LOT AND TRY TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT SO THEY CAN STILL CONTINUE TO USE THE PARK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THIS IS A PROJECT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE IN AN EFFORT TO GET MORE CONNECTED WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND HERE, DIRECTION BEFORE YOU GO ON.
UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO WE HAVE ANY WAY TO KNOW HOW MUCH USE IS OCCURRING AT THE, UH, EV STATIONS? YES, WE DO.
WE GET A REPORT OUT EVERY MONTH, I BELIEVE, FROM THE, THE COMPANY WHO DOES THE PROGRAMMING FOR THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN FIND THOSE IN, UH, GIVE AN UPDATED REPORT TO COUNCIL WITH THE NEXT.
SO THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY CONVERSATION SERIES.
WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST EVENT ON AUGUST 30TH, AND THIS WAS HELD AT THE SEDONA PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE CYBER ROOM.
UH, WE DID VERY LIMITED ADVERTISING FOR THIS EVENT.
UM, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY NOT A PILOT PROJECT, BUT WE WANTED TO JUST GET OUT THERE, UM, GET OUR FEET WET SEA, HOW THE TONE OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE BEFORE WE, UM, STARTED DOING INCREASED ADVERTISING AND STARTED SCHEDULING OUR NEXT EVENTS.
UM, EXCUSE ME, WHAT WAS THAT? LIMITED ADVERTISING.
HOW WAS THAT DONE? WE JUST DID A SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND IT WAS ON THE LIBRARY'S CALENDAR.
I DO NOT THINK THAT IT GOT PUT ON THE CITY'S CALENDAR, WHICH WAS AN OVERSIGHT IN OUR PART, BUT WE'LL RECTIFY FOR OUR NEXT EVENT.
BUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST WENT OUT FROM THE CITY OF SONOMA.
SO WE DID HAVE ABOUT 20 PEOPLE AT 10, WHICH WAS FOR US GREAT BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S A LARGE GROUP OR A SMALL GROUP, UM, THAT INTIMATE SETTING REALLY ALLOWED US TO DIG IN AND REACH OUR GOALS FOR THE EVENT.
UM, WE WERE A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT HOW IT MIGHT GO, BUT WHAT THE FORMATTING CONSISTED OF WAS A SHORT PRESENTATION ON THE BASICS OF SUSTAINABILITY, TYING IT DIRECTLY TO, UM, SEDONA SPECIFIC ISSUES, AS WELL AS A GROUP BREAKOUT SESSION THAT WAS LED BY STAFF.
WHAT WE ENDED UP HAVING, UM, HAPPEN WAS, UM, WE HAD SIX TABLES LAID OUT IN THE ROOM.
WE, WE FORCED EVERYBODY TO COME UP TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM AND PLAY, AND THEN, THEN STAFF MEMBERS MANNED EACH OF THE TABLES IN THE FRONT.
AND, UH, CONVERSATIONS ENSUED BASED ON WHO CAME UP TO THE TABLE.
UM, WE DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE JUMP AROUND TO BE AT SPECIFIC TABLES, BUT MOSTLY PEOPLE, UM, PLAYED THE GAME WITH US AND THEY CAME UP AND SAT WITH WHOEVER WAS ALREADY SEATED AT THAT TABLE.
UH, THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS, UM, AS WE LAID OUT THIS EVENT, UM, EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN ATTENDANCE WAS VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE RULES.
AND WE LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, BASIC RULES LIKE RESPECT THE LIBRARY'S PROPERTY AND FEEL FREE TO SNACK, BUT DON'T MAKE A MESS.
BUT THEN WE ALSO, UM, LAID OUT SOME RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
AND WHAT WE SAID BASICALLY IS THAT WE'RE HERE TO HAVE A POSITIVE, PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION.
THIS WILL NOT BE LIKE A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE YOU GET THREE MINUTES TO SAY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, AND WE DON'T GET TO RESPOND.
WE'RE COMING TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH YOU.
AND SO WE CAME TO THOSE TABLES, WE SAT DOWN, WE HAD OUR NOTEPADS, AND, UM, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THERE WERE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AT EACH TABLE, UM, FROM DIFFERING PERSPECTIVES, AND IMMEDIATELY THERE WAS CONFLICT.
BUT WHENEVER WE PUT THAT ASIDE AND WE SAID, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DEBATE WITH YOU.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE OR NOT, BECAUSE SUSTAINABILITY IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM CLIMATE CHANGE.
YOU CAN STILL DO SUSTAINABLE ACTIONS WITHOUT BELIEVING IN CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING SUSTAINABLE ACTIONS AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT.
SO ONCE WE CLEARED THE AIR THERE, WHAT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO SEE IS THAT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE ALL CAME TO THE TABLE AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS.
SO I KNOW PEGGY WAS AT MY TABLE AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THE TOLL LENDING LIBRARY.
THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH TALKING ABOUT A FOOD SECURITY PROJECT.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER TO GET MORE PARTICIPATION, MORE AWARENESS OF THEIR PROJECTS, AND POSSIBLY GET MORE RESOURCES TO EXPAND THOSE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE, DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS.
IT WAS REALLY A, A BEAUTIFUL EVENT AND IT, IT WENT SO WELL AFTERWARDS AND WE RECEIVED A LOT OF REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THAT.
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SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THAT AND APPLY 'EM TO OUR FUTURE EVENTS.OUR VERY NEXT ONE IS GONNA BE, AGAIN, EPISODE ON LIBRARY AND THE CYBER ROOM, OR BREAK IT THROUGH YOUR CALENDARS OUT.
UM, THIS IS GONNA BE HELD OVER LUNCH.
WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE SOME LIGHT SNACKS AND REFRESHMENTS.
UM, EVERYBODY ELSE IS ALSO WELCOME TO BRING THEIR LIGHT SNACKS AND REFRESHMENTS.
PLEASE DO NOT BRING YOUR FISH DINNERS WITH YOU.
UM, AND WE ARE GONNA HAVE IT BY REGISTRATION ONLY, JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET AN ACCURATE COUNT OF NUMBER SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE ENOUGH SNACKS AND SEATING IN EVERYBODY.
UM, WE ARE STILL, UM, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS GONNA BE RESILIENCY 1 0 1.
UH, FORTUNATELY FOR OUR PROGRAM, WE HAVE THREE PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN RESILIENCY IN, UH, SYSTEMS THINKING.
SO THAT SHOULD BE A REALLY FUN EVENT.
AND, UM, AFTER THAT WE'RE GONNA EXPLORE OTHER WAYS, UH, TO PRESENT SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE WANNA DISCUSS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
ANOTHER KEY TAKEAWAY FROM THIS ADVANTAGE IS THAT WE FOUND THAT SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, THEY'RE READY TO DIG INTO, THEY WANNA DIG INTO THE GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING, THEY WANNA GET INTO THAT.
OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS IS LIKE, DON'T PRESENT THAT TO ME, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT RECYCLING.
AND THEN OTHER, OTHER MEMBERS WERE, THEY JUST WANT THEIR VOICES TO BE HEARD, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY ACCOMMODATE THAT IN OUR PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ENDEAVORING TO DO THROUGH THIS.
SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT IN OUR OPINION, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS A LOT MORE IN THE FUTURE.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA ADVERTISE THE NEXT EVENT? THIS EVENT? SO THIS EVENT IS ALREADY ON THE, UM, SEDONA LIBRARY CALENDAR.
WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING SURE THAT WE ADD IT TO OUR CALENDAR.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING, UM, SOMETHING ON OUR, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WEBPAGES FOR OUR, OUR PROGRAM ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AS WELL AS DOING, UH, PRESS RELEASE AND SOCIAL MEDIA POST PARTNERING WITH OUR COM AND PR TEAM.
I REALLY, I, UM, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THIS INITIATIVE.
ALONG THE SAME LINES OF COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS AND LEAVING A SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO FEEL HEARD.
UM, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE MEETINGS, COUNCIL MEETINGS, ARE SUSTAINABLY 1 0 1 EVENT IS A VERY STRONG CONCERN ABOUT, UM, HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES AND, UM, MINING ISSUES AND JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF EV BATTERIES AND SOLAR PANELS, TO THE EXTENT WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANNA KNOW, WHY ARE WE INVESTING IN THIS, WHEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN BE CONTRIBUTING ADVERSELY TO SOME VERY EGREGIOUS THINGS THAT HAPPEN AROUND OUR WORLD THAT WE OFTENTIMES DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER AND DON'T GET TO SEE.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN OSTRICH, WHICH A HEAD BURIED IN THE SAND.
SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, AND AS A DEMONSTRATION THAT WE WERE COMMITTED TO LISTENING TO ALL COMMENTS AND ADDRESSING THOSE AS WE CAN.
UM, WE ACTUALLY FOUND OUT THAT OWEN HERE HAS LIFECYCLE ASSESSMENT BACKGROUND, WHICH IS A, WHICH IS A KEY SKILL IN OUR FIELD, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE HAD IT.
SO HE HAS BEEN EMBARKING ON DOING A LIFECYCLE ASSESSMENT ON SOLAR PANELS AND EVS.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WORK IS STILL ONGOING AND IT'S NOT COMPLETED YET.
BUT HERE TO PRESENT HIS WORK ON THIS AND, UH, GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF WHAT GOES INTO A LIFE CYCLE ASSESSMENT IS OWEN.
AND GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.
AS ALICIA MENTIONED, UH, THIS RESEARCH IS MOTIVATED PREDOMINANTLY BY COMMUNITY CONCERN.
UH, AT SUSTAINABILITY 1 0 1, WE ADD CONCERNS RELATED TO BOTH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES EXPRESSED TO US, UH, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HUMAN RIGHTS, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, PUBLIC HEALTH, AND ACCESSIBILITY OF THE TECHNOLOGIES.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'RE BOTH KEY ELEMENTS OF OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AS THEY RELATE TO COMMUNITY WIDE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS, ENERGY SYSTEM RESILIENCY, AND OUR GREEN FLEET POLICY.
SO BEFORE I DIVE INTO MY FINDINGS, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN ON JUST WHAT LIFECYCLE ANALYSIS IS.
SO THIS IS A METHOD USED BY SUSTAINABILITY PROFESSIONALS TO GET A MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF PRODUCT SUSTAINABILITY.
AND WE DO THAT BY LOOKING AT THE UNIQUE ACTIVITIES AND ASSOCIATED IMPACTS FOUND IN EACH STAGE OF A PRODUCT'S LIFE CYCLE.
AND IN THIS ANALYSIS, I LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT LITHIUM ION ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES AND ROOFTOP SOLAR PANELS.
UH, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT MY CONCLUSIONS ARE GENERALIZED, UM, AS I'M LOOKING AT THESE TECHNOLOGIES AS A WHOLE, NOT SPECIFIC MODELS.
AND THE DATA THAT I USE TO COMPLETE THIS ANALYSIS OR THAT I AM USING TO COMPLETE THIS ANALYSIS, UH, COMES MAINLY FROM ACADEMIC STUDIES AS WELL AS FROM CORPORATE REPORTS AND SOME ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS WITH INDUSTRY LEADERS.
AND MY CONCLUSIONS HERE WILL BE SEPARATED INTO THE PRODUCTION USAGE AND DISPOSAL STAGE OF BOTH THESE TECHNOLOGIES.
AND THE DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE THERE WILL GIVE YOU A BIT OF A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I MEAN.
UH, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE PRODUCTION STAGE, I MEAN EVERYTHING UP FROM, UH, RAW MATERIAL EXTRACTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS AND TRANSPORTING THESE GOODS TO CONSUMERS.
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USAGE STAGE, THE CONSUMER IS USING THE PRODUCT AS YOU WOULD EXPECT.SO FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THIS IS WHEN THE VEHICLE IS ON THE ROAD AND IT'S BEING CHARGED AS WELL.
AND FOR SOLAR PANELS, THIS IS WHEN THE PANEL IS ON THE ROOF, UM, GENERATING ELECTRICITY.
ALL RIGHT, NOW LET'S DIVE INTO SOME IMPACTS.
SO FOR BOTH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES, ADVERSE IMPACTS ARE CONCENTRATED BY AND LARGE IN THE PRODUCTION STAGE WHEN IT COMES TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
UH, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT PRODUCTION EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY ENERGY INTENSIVE PROCESSES NEEDED TO MANUFACTURE THEM FOR SOLAR PANELS.
THIS IS MAINLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE PRODUCTION OF SILICON WAFERS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE THERE.
AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WHEN WE LOOK AT JUST THE PRODUCTION STAGE, UH, EMISSIONS ARE OFTEN HIGHER THAN THOSE OF TRADITIONAL GAS POWERED VEHICLES.
UH, IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SOME MINERAL SCARCITY CONCERNS AS THEY'RE RARE METALS NEEDED TO PRODUCE BOTH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES, AND THEY'RE NOT VERY WIDELY DISTRIBUTED AROUND THE WORLD.
SO THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT OVER MINING CAN DEPLETE GLOBAL SUPPLIES.
UH, AND TIED IN WITH THAT, WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS.
UH, THERE HAVE BEEN FORCED LABOR ALLEGATIONS IN CHINESE SOLAR PANEL FACTORIES, AS WELL AS DOCUMENTED CASES OF FORCED LABOR, CHILD LABOR AND CONFLICT MINING IN MINERAL SUPPLY CHAINS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES.
NOW MOVING ON TO THE USAGE STAGE.
OUR CONCERNS ARE MAINLY RELATED TO EQUITY AS WE SEE DISPROPORTIONATELY LOW ADOPTION RATES IN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS IS MAINLY DUE TO A COMBINATION OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS LACK OF ADEQUATE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
AND IN THE DISPOSAL STAGE, THE MAIN, UH, CONCERN FOR US HERE IS PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS AS THERE ARE TOXINS AND CARCINOGENS, UM, IN BOTH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES.
SO THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED TO US BY RESIDENTS ARE ABSOLUTELY VALID IN THIS, THIS CASE.
UH, BUT THANKFULLY WE HAVE SOME STRATEGIES TO VERY STRONGLY MITIGATE THESE IMPACTS.
SO, STARTING OFF WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THIS IS REALLY CRUCIAL WHEN WE THINK ABOUT EMISSIONS AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES, IS OVERALL LIFE CYCLE EMISSIONS OF AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE ARE HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON THE ELECTRICITY SOURCE USED IN THE USAGE STAGE TO CHARGE THE VEHICLE.
SO WHEN WE COMPARE THOSE TO EMISSIONS OF GAS VEHICLES, WE CAN GET SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IF CHARGERS ARE POWERED BY CLEAN ENERGY SOURCES.
BUT THIS IS OF COURSE NOT NECESSARILY TRUE IF CHARGERS ARE POWERED WITH FOSSIL FUEL DERIVED ELECTRICITY.
AND FOR SOLAR PANELS, ONE GREAT MITIGATION STEP WITH RESPECT TO UM, EMISSIONS IS TO BUY FROM DOMESTIC PRODUCERS.
AS RESEARCHERS HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN LOOKING AT PRODUCTION STAGE EMISSIONS RELATIVE TO ELECTRICITY PRODUCED, WE SEE A 40% REDUCTION IN THOSE, UM, PANELS PRODUCED IN THE US COMPARED TO THOSE PRODUCED IN CHINA.
AH, AND THAT HAS THE ADDED BENEFIT OF HELPING TO ALLEVIATE THOSE FORCED LABOR CONCERNS, WHICH I JUST MENTIONED.
AND IN LINE WITH MORE HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS, UH, WE CAN ALSO BUY FROM MEMBERS OF WHAT'S CALLED THE RESPONSIBLE MINERALS INITIATIVE.
SO THIS IS A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION WHOSE MEMBERS CONSIST OF MANUFACTURERS, UH, SMELTERS AND REFINERIES.
AND WHAT THE RESPONSIBLE MINERALS INITIATIVE DOES IS THEY GO AND COLLECT MINERAL SOURCING REPORTS FROM THEIR MEMBERS, AND THEN THEY AUDIT AND VALIDATE THESE TO ENSURE THAT MINERAL SUPPLY CHAINS ARE FREE OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.
NOW, TO ADDRESS THESE EQUITY CONCERNS IN THE USAGE STAGE, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS TO HELP CONNECT LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS TO, UM, INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. AND IN ADDITION, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE, UM, PUBLIC CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
MOVING ON TO THE DISPOSAL STAGE, UH, THIS IS CRUCIAL TO ALLEVIATE THOSE PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO DISPOSING OF BOTH THESE TECHNOLOGIES THROUGH EXPERIENCED, UH, REPUTABLE DISPOSAL EXPERTS, UM, ALL BUT ELIMINATES THOSE PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO, UH, HANDLE THESE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, RECYCLING HAS A MAJOR PART TO PLAY HERE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO SOLAR PANELS.
WHEN THOSE SILICON WAFERS, WHICH AS I MENTIONED, ARE VERY ENERGY INTENSIVE TO PRODUCE WHEN THEY'RE PRODUCED WITH RECYCLED MATERIALS AS OPPOSED TO FRESHLY EXTRACTED RAW MATERIALS, WE SEE A 67% REDUCTION IN ENERGY NEEDED TO, UM, PRODUCE THEM.
AND WITH RECYCLING AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE SEE A 25% REDUCTION IN MINERAL SCARCITY IMPACTS, AND WE ALSO SEE REDUCTIONS IN, UH, LIFE CYCLE EMISSIONS, BUT TO A MUCH LESSER DEGREE
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RECYCLING.WHAT PERCENT, THE 67% LESS WAFER MANUFACTURING ENERGY, IF YOU RECYCLE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE WAFERS ARE RECYCLED? UH, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD NUMBER FOR THAT AT THIS TIME.
I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU, IF YOU LIKE.
IS IT, IS IT GENERALLY IN THE SINGLE DIGIT DOUBLE DOUBLE SINGLE DIGITS? MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT IT IS QUITE LOW AT THIS TIME.
SOLAR PANEL RECYCLING IS STILL NOT GROWING.
IS IT? BUT IS IT GROWING OR IS IT NOT? OH, IT IS GROWING.
UM, SO IF WE PARTNER WITH THESE RECYCLING COMPANIES, THEN WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP GROW THIS RECYCLING EFFORTS MORE AND SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT'S CALLED A CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
WHEREIN RAW MATERIALS THAT ARE EXTRACTED ARE THEN REUSED AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THEY REACH THEIR ULTIMATE END OF LIFE AND END UP IN A LANDFILL AND NOT, SO NOT JUST RECYCLING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION OF REFURBISHMENT OR REPAIR FOR REUSE.
AND THIS ADDITIONALLY HELPS TO ADDRESS THOSE EQUITY CONCERNS THAT I MENTIONED AS THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT REFURBISH SOLAR PANELS AND RESELL THEM TO LOW INCOME RESIDENTS AT A DISCOUNT RATE TO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES OVERALL.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, THE NEXT STEP FOR US IS TO IDENTIFY COMPANIES THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH FOR, UM, PROCUREMENT OF RESPONSIBLY SOURCE AND PRODUCE TECHNOLOGIES, AS WELL AS DISPOSAL PARTNERS, WHICH WE CAN THEN WORK INTO OUR MUNICIPAL PROCUREMENT POLICY.
YEAH, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.
I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THE GREEN PLAN THAT APS MAY ALLOW RESIDENTS TO GET ON COMPARES COSTWISE TO THAT CHOICE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE, THE, UH, THE REFURBISH SOLAR PANEL SUPPLIER THAT THEY GET THEM FROM.
UH, SO I DON'T HAVE COST NUMBERS ON HAND, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE.
I THINK OUR RESIDENTS BE INTERESTED.
WE DO INTEND TO TAKE OWEN'S RESEARCH AND INCORPORATE IT INTO OUR PROGRAM, AS WELL AS WHEN WE START WORKING WITH FINANCE IN THE UPCOMING, UH, CALENDAR YEAR ON OUR GREEN PROCUREMENT POLICY.
THAT IS A DIRECT ACTION ITEM IN OUR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, I BELIEVE, IF NOT THE CAP AS WELL.
UM, SO SPEAKING OF BATTERIES, UH, WE HAVE THE GREEN FLEET POLICY.
UH, AND THE GOAL OF THIS POLICY IS TO TRANSITION, UM, ALL OF OUR PASSENGER VEHICLES TO ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES BY, UH, 2030.
AND WITHIN THIS PLAN, ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES ARE, UH, DEFINED AS VEHICLES THAT DO NOT EMIT EXHAUST OR OTHER POLLUTANTS FROM, UH, THE ONBOARD SOURCE OF POWER.
SO BASICALLY, THESE ARE JUST VEHICLES THAT DON'T HAVE, UH, TAILPIPE EMISSIONS.
UH, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, AS TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES AND COSTS, UH, UH, GO DOWN, UH, THE POLICY WILL BE EXPANDED TO, UH, TARGET OTHER TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT AREN'T JUST PASSENGER VEHICLES.
AND IN TERMS OF NEXT, NEXT STEPS, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO, UH, CREATE A, UH, TURNOVER SCHEDULE TO ENSURE, UH, THE SUCCESSFUL ACHIEVEMENT OF OUR GOALS OF, UH, REACHING ALL, UM, ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES BY 2030.
AND, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'LL BE WORKING TO, UH, CLARIFY THIS POLICY MORE, UH, AS WELL AS UPDATE THE FORMS THAT COME ALONG, UH, THAT ARE PAIRED WITH THIS POLICY.
UM, AND THESE CHANGES AND UPDATES ARE ALL GOING TO BE BASED OFF OF THE, UH, LESSONS LEARNED FROM OUR FIRST ROUND OF IMPLEMENTATION.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED LIST OF, UM, ALL FUTURE, UH, EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, SO AS WE, UH, CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT FEEDBACK BEFORE WE LEAVE ON, UH, ANY FEEDBACK FROM, UH, THE, UH, OFFICERS ABOUT HOW THEY, THEY LIKE USING THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UM, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR, UH, FEEDBACK FROM OFFICERS ON THAT.
I'D SAY THAT SORT OF THE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE WE HAVE, THAT IT'S BEEN POSITIVE,
UM, SO AS WE, UH, YEAH, CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, UH, WE HAVE OUR MUNICIPAL E-BIKE FLEET.
UH, SO, UH, PURCHASING A MUNICIPAL BIKE FLEET, UH, BIKE POOL FLEET IS, UH, AN ACTION DIRECTLY LISTED IN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, ACTION 5.1, 0.6.
AND SO THERE ARE A TON OF GREAT BENEFITS, UH, FOR US, UM, WHEN WE ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES TO TAKE BIKES, UH, AS THEY CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS AROUND THE CITY.
UM, FIRST OFF, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY JUST REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF MILES TRAVELED IN OUR GAS CARS, BUT IT IS ALSO SIMULTANEOUSLY, UM, HELPING TO IMPROVE JUST HEALTH OF OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL
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AS REDUCING NOISE, POLLUTION AND AIR POLLUTION.BUT, UH, AND, AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE, UH, SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES BECAUSE WE'VE DECIDED TO PURCHASE AND MAINTAIN THE CITY'S FIRST E-BIKE FLEET, UM, THROUGH A, UH, A LOCAL VENDOR.
UM, AND SO IN, UH, IN, UH, IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY, UH, THE BEST BIKE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY, UH, WE CONDUCTED AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS, UM, WHERE EACH BIKE WAS SCORED AGAINST 15 VARIABLES AND, UH, AND REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND THESE VARIABLES CONSIDERED THINGS LIKE COST, UM, SAFETY AND, UH, EASE OF USE.
AND, UH, BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF SEVEN BIKES AND THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS, LOCAL VENDORS, UH, THE TEAM DECIDED TO GO WITH THE VERVE TWO STEP THROUGH, UH, WHICH IS A BIKE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SLIDE HERE.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, UH, TO, UH, HAVE THAT DEPLOYED WITH THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UH, FOR EMPLOYEES TO USE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE, WHERE IT'S MANUFACTURED? UH, THE BIKE ITSELF IS, UM, WELL, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S AN AMERICAN COMPANY, UH, THROUGH TREK.
UM, BUT I CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH, UH, JUST MORE DETAIL AS TO WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY BEING SOURCED FROM.
AS LONG IT'S IN THE US THOUGH, THE COMPANY THAT BUILDS THAT DESIGN.
UM, THIS TYPE OF BIKE IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY, BUT IN TERMS OF BATTERY AND, UH, METALS USED WITH AND, AND RUBBER AND ALL THAT STUFF, UH, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH SOME OF THAT DETAIL LATER.
UM, SO, UH, AS IN TERMS OF, UH, NEXT STEPS, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE CONTINUING TO, UH, DEVELOP OUR, UH, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND PART OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IS GOING TO BE, UH, IS GOING TO INCLUDE A SAFETY TRAINING PROGRAM FOR EMPLOYEES, AND WILL, UM, EMPLOYEES BE REQUIRED TO WEAR HELMETS WHILE USING THE E-BIKES.
SO PART OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, UH, INCLUDES POLICY, UM, WHICH REQUIRES LIKE THE TRAINING, WHICH INCLUDES LIKE REQUIRING, UH, SAFETY EQUIPMENT TO BE WORN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
HOW MANY ARE YOU BUYING INITIALLY? UM, WE ARE BUDGETED TO, UH, PURCHASE SIX E-BIKES, UH, INITIALLY FOR THE, UH, POOL FLEET.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNSELORS, THIS IS STILL IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE, WHILE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE BIKES, AND WE DO HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT THIS YEAR, UM, THIS HAS YET TO BE PROPOSED TO LEADERSHIP AS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND SAFETY, UH, TRAINING PLAN BEFORE WE PRESENT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE FOR APPROVAL.
IS THE PLAN FOR PEOPLE TO USE THE BIKES DURING, ON CITY BUSINESS DURING THE DAY AND THAT SORT OF THING AND NOT HAVE THEM OVERNIGHT THEN, OR NO, THESE WERE INTENDED TO BE CHECKED OUT JUST LIKE FUEL, UH, I'M SORRY, FLEET VEHICLES.
SO YOU WOULD CHECK THE VEHICLE OUT, GO TO CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS, AND THEN BRING IT BACK.
THE BIKE WOULD BE THE SAME THING.
YOU WOULD CHECK IT OUT, YOU WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED TO CHECK IT OUT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED TO CHECK IT OUT.
IF YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE SAFETY TRAINING AND, UH, YOU HAVE ALL YOUR NECESSARY EQUIPMENT TO UTILIZE THE BIKE THAT DAY, THEN YOU CAN CHECK THAT OUT AND YOU CAN, UH, USE THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOURCE TO CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS.
UH, CLEARLY THERE'S GONNA BE LIMITATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO CARRY A LOT OF EQUIPMENT OR PAPERWORK OR ANYTHING.
BUT ZACH HAS, UM, ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THIS, A NUMBER OF UPGRADES TO ADD TO THE BIKE, TO, UH, MAKE THEM MORE USER FRIENDLY FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY CONDUCTING BUSINESS DAY TO DAY.
DID WE DO A SURVEY TO SEE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WOULD BE INTERESTED IN RIDING THOSE BIKES DURING THEIR WORKDAY? I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE LIMITATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, BALANCE WHATEVER.
WE DIDN'T DO A FORMAL SURVEY, SIR.
WE DID ASK A LOT OF OUR, UM, KNOWN BIKE USERS IN THE CITY WHO OFTEN RIDE THEIR PERSONAL BICYCLES UP TO WORK.
UM, BUT THIS WAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THE, IN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLANS.
SO THE ASSUMPTION WAS THAT, UH, A LOT OF THAT SURVEY AND, AND, UH, RESEARCH WAS DONE BEFORE IT WAS PUT INTO THE PLAN AND APPROVED.
ALSO, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN INTEREST IN, UM, USING THESE VEHICLES FOR OUR, UH, TCAS.
AND SO THAT'S A DIRECT INTEREST THAT AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE TCAS TO START USE OF AS SOON AS THEY'RE READY.
SO WE'D ONLY HAVE FOUR, UM, THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAMS DEDICATED TO USING 'EM.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER EMPLOYEES AND STAFF MEMBERS AT, UH, CITY HALL WHO HAVE, ARE SO VOICED AND INTEREST IN USING THOSE.
SO FOR, FOR THE SMALL PURCHASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE, INITIALLY, THOSE BIKES WILL BE WELL UTILIZED, AND IF NOT, THEY'RE ALSO, UM, WE HAVE, WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO, UM, I I THINK THAT WE CAN SELL THOSE IF THEY'RE NOT BEING USED.
IS THAT A KNOW, ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME? WELL, SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS THE RULES OF PROCUREMENT AND IF, AND LIQUIDATION TO DISPOSE OF THEM, THEY WOULD NEED TO GO TO AUCTION.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LIKE, RESELL THEM TO
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THE EMPLOYEES, OR WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LIQUIDATE THEM AND RECOUP SOME OF THE FUNDS SPENT ON.THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT, KAREN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON OUR, UM, OUR WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR ON THE MUNICIPAL E-BIKE PURCHASES? VERY EXCITING.
IT WOULD BE, UH, IT'D BE GREAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, THE, THE RESEARCH BEHIND THAT COULD ALSO BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOURS TRULY, WHO KEEPS THINKING, I'M GONNA LOOK INTO THIS SOMEDAY, AND HOW DO I TELL WHICH ONE'S THE BEST ONE? SO WE CAN DEFINITELY LOVE TO SEE YOUR RESEARCH.
THE ANALYSIS THAT, THAT ZACH DID WAS VERY DETAILED AND IN DEPTH, UH, WAY MORE THAN WHAT, UH, I WAS EXPECTING, BUT PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.
HE, HE DID A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL RESEARCH IN THIS, WORKED WITH THE VENDORS, UM, CHOSE, CHOSE TO WORK WITH LOCAL VENDORS, BUT ALSO EXPLORED VENDOR AND FLAGSTAFF JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO HAD OPTIONS TO BUY THE, THE BEST VEHICLE.
UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS IN THE SPRING, UM, BEFORE BUDGET AND EVERYTHING, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PURCHASING PRIOR TO THAT.
HE REDID ALL THE RESEARCH AND, UM, WHEN GOT EMPLOYEE OPINIONS AND SUCH, AND WE, WE WOUND UP SELECTING THE SAME BIKE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE SPRING.
SO A LOT OF RESEARCH WENT INTO THIS, AND I'M SURE IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN PROCURING THEIR OWN.
SO, UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF KEY THIS ONE UP BECAUSE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DIRECTED TO DO, BUT I THINK IT IS VERY NECESSARY FOR OUR PROGRAM AND IT'S INFANCY THAT IT IS.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS IN THE PROFESSIONS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY IS COMMUNICATION.
IF YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE THE, THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY OR THE, THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU NEED SUPPORT ON, THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY PROGRESS EITHER WAY.
SO WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO, UM, TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND ALSO MAKE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR DISPOSAL IS I DIRECTED ZACH TO DEVELOP A COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH PLAN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST, UM, PROJECTS THAT HE WAS ASSIGNED THAT WAS NOT ALREADY STARTED BY SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAD BEEN IN THE PROGRAM.
AND HE WAS VERY GIVEN VERY LITTLE DIRECTION ON IT.
AND THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO GIVE HIM ONE PROJECT TO WORK ON TO WHERE HE CAN SHOW US WHAT HE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, AND HE DEFINITELY DELIVERED.
UM, I'VE SEEN THIS PROJECT GO FROM PHASE TO PHASE TO PHASE, AND IT'S, IT'S LOOKING QUITE BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW.
IT OF COURSE, IS NOT COMPLETELY FINISHED.
WE STILL HAVE REVIEWS AND APPROVALS LEFT ON IT.
UM, BUT THIS IS AN EXCITING THING FOR THE US AND I'LL LET ZACH KIND OF GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON WHY IT'S SO EXCITING FOR US AT THIS TIME.
UM, SO LIKE ALICIA SAID, THIS, UH, PLAN IS AIMED AT JUST DRASTICALLY INCREASING OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION, UM, AND PUBLIC ACCESS TO SUSTAINABILITY RESOURCES, UH, OUR PROGRAMS AND, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY, THE SUSTAINABILITY STAFF AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE UPDATED AND MAINTAINED AND REVIEWED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, BUT, AND IN TERMS OF PROCESS, UM, PROCESS OF CREATING THIS, UH, THIS PLAN, UH, NOBODY WANTS TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
UM, SO I WENT ABOUT, UH, CONTACTING A VARIETY OF, UH, MY OWN COLLEAGUES, UM, SUSTAINABILITY COLLEAGUES WHO WORK IN VARIOUS SUSTAINABILITY OFFICES AROUND THE WEST.
UH, SOME OF THOSE, UH, OFFICES, UH, WERE FOR THE CITIES OF ASPEN, UM, BOULDER, PHOENIX, DENVER, AND ENGLEWOOD.
UM, AND I REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A SUSTAINABILITY COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH PLAN, UM, TO FIND, UH, THAT EITHER THEY WERE JUST WORKING ON THEIRS AS WELL, JUST STARTING TO WORK ON THEIRS, OR, UH, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ONE AT ALL.
SO I, UH, UH, I BASICALLY HAD TO, UH, START FROM SCRATCH, UH, START FROM THE GROUND UP.
UM, AND SO I ORGANIZED THIS PLAN INTO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
UM, AND SOME OF THOSE CATEGORIES INCLUDE A GENERAL POLICY, WHICH JUST ENTAILS HOW TO MAINTAIN THE DOCUMENT, BUT ALSO SET STANDARDS OF COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH, HOW WE'RE PLANNING EVENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UH, JUST FOR THE, UH, DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL.
UM, AND THAT'S DESIGNED TO ALSO JUST GET NEW, UH, STAFF MEMBERS WHENEVER THAT OCCURS, UH, TO GET, HELP THEM GET UP TO SPEED SO THAT THEY KNOW OUR STANDARDS.
UM, SO ANOTHER, UH, SECTION, OTHER SECTIONS INCLUDE A, UH, EVENTS CALENDAR AND INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION PLAN.
UH, CITY COUNCIL UPDATES PLAN, UH, RESILIENCY, COMMUNICATION, UM, AND A WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLAN.
AND SO WITHIN EACH CATEGORY, THERE ARE, UH, A MULTITUDE OF, UH, DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS. AND WITH WITHIN EACH ACTION ITEM, UH, THEY ARE PAIRED WITH, UH, TIMELINES, POTENTIAL PARTNERS, UH, AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY AND POLICY, UM, TARGETED STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND METRICS AND INDICATORS.
AND SO, UH, MOVING FORWARD, LIKE ALICIA SAID, IT'S, UH, NOT COMPLETED YET, BUT IT IS ALMOST THERE.
UH, SO WE JUST NEED TO DO, UH, ONE OR TWO MORE REVIEWS AND, UH, SIGN OFF FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER.
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LATER DOWN THE LINE, IF OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN, UH, SEDONAS GOVERNMENT WISH TO, UH, SEE OUR COMMUNICATIONS PLAN WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM.BUT THERE ALL HAVE ALSO BEEN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UM, LIKE BOULDER, UM, WHO HAVE, UH, AND ASPEN, WHO HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN, UH, SEEING WHAT WE COME UP WITH
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS WORK THAT, UM, ZACH HAS PUT INTO THIS, UM, VERY HARD WORK WAS DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR COMMON PR TEAM, LAUREN AND KEEGAN.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN A JOY TO WORK WITH, AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THEM AND THEIR GUIDANCE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, AS ZACH MENTIONED, UH, TIMELINES, POTENTIAL PARTNERS, STAKEHOLDER IDENTIFICATION METRICS AND INDICATORS.
THIS IS A GREAT EXERCISE FOR OUR TEAM BEFORE WE HAD INTO OUR, OUR ALREADY SCHEDULED MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN UPDATE LATER ON THIS YEAR AND OUR FUTURE CAP UPDATES.
SO THESE WE'RE DOING SMALL PROJECTS NOW THAT ARE PREPARING US FOR THOSE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT OH, FEES, BUT THIS IS NOT AN OHV MEETING, SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE THE COUNCIL IS ALREADY WELL AWARE OF THE EFFORTS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING ON THESE ISSUES SINCE I, UM, CAME IN AT THE END OF JANUARY.
SO, UM, FOR CITY EFFORTS, WE ARE A CO CONVENER ALONG WITH THE FOREST SERVICE, ARIZONA STATE PARKS, ARIZONA, UH, FISH AND GAME, AND YAVAPAI COUNTY DISTRICT THREE OFFICE IN THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATION.
THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAS BEEN CONVENED BY THE CO CONVENER GROUP AND IS BEING FACILITATED BY SOUTHWEST DECISION RESOURCES OR SDR FOR SHORT.
AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.
AS OF TODAY, SDR IS WRAPPING UP STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS.
UH, WE'RE DOING SITE VISITS AND COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL THE AREAS IN OF INTEREST AROUND, UH, IN AND AROUND SEDONA THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE 2019 OHV REPORT THAT THE CITY PUT OUT.
AND SO THE NEXT STEPS THERE IS, UH, SDR SHOULD BE, UH, PRESENTING A REPORT ON THE BACKGROUND, UM, WHETHER COLLABORATION IS EVEN POSSIBLE, WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IT IS.
SO THAT WON'T BE A SURPRISE THERE, BUT JUST A BASIC COMPREHENSIVE BACKGROUND OF WHAT'S LED UP TO THIS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING SO FAR, AS WELL AS A PLAN FOR NEXT STEPS MOVING FORWARD.
THOSE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE ALONG THE LINES OF FORMING TOPICAL CONVERSATION GROUPS TO ADDRESS THE VERY SPECIFIC ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCREASED USAGE OF OHVS IN OUR AREA.
UM, ADDITIONALLY ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, SDR IS BUILDING A WEBSITE ON BEHALF OF THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE.
SO ALL THOSE ENTITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT, THEY'RE ALL SENDING ALL THEIR REALLY GREAT RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE EACH INDIVIDUALLY WORKING ON TO S SCR, SO THEY CAN COLLECT THAT WHILE WE WAIT FOR SCR TO PUBLISH THAT WEBSITE, WHICH SHOULD BE COMING HERE SHORTLY.
THE CITY HAS WENT AHEAD AND CREATED AN O H B INFO PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE, IS NOT VERY HIGH SPEED, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, I AM NOT A WEBSITE DESIGNER OR GRAPHIC DESIGNER BY ANY MEANS.
WHAT WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN POST THE INFORMATION THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND LEADERS NEED.
SO WE HAVE A USER FRIENDLY URL FOR THAT, THAT, UH, WE JUST OBTAIN.
AND IT'S AT WWW DONUT AZ.GOV/OHB.
AND THERE'S A, A LITTLE VISUAL OF WHAT THE PAGE LOOKS LIKE NOW.
WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME MORE GRAPHICS ON THERE, UH, ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, AND EVENTUALLY LINK THAT TO THE SD WEBSITE, WHERE THERE'LL BE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UM, UH, MORE ROBUST GEOGRAPHIC, UH, RESOURCES THERE.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, SOMETHING THE CITY IS DOING, UM, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE ENTITIES THAT WE ARE CO CONVENERS WITH, BUT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT ALONE, IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT.
THE COUNCIL, UM, UH, APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UH, THE RFQ FOR THAT ASSESSMENT WENT OUT, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO.
WE HAVE REACHED ONE DEADLINE WITHOUT ANY RESPONSES.
I'M TELLING THIS FOR TRANSPARENCY.
UH, WE HAVE DECIDED TO EXTEND THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND DO ADDITIONAL ADVERTISING TO TRY TO GET THE RIGHT, UH, THE RIGHT COMPANY TO COME IN AND DO SOME OF THIS ASSESSMENT FOR US.
AND THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME ON THAT LATER ON AS WE PROGRESS FURTHER IN THOSE EFFORTS.
SO WE, UM, THE, THIS LAST CATEGORY THAT WE'RE GONNA COVER ARE UPCOMING AND EXPLORATORY PROJECTS.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT THAT MEANS, UM, AS WE GET TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
LEISHA, DID YOU SAY, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE JANUARY? I CAME AT THE VERY END OF JANUARY, JANUARY 31ST.
I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AMOUNT OF, IN A GOOD WAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN AT COUNCIL FOR YEARS TONIGHT, AS I'M SURE MANY PEOPLE DO SOMETIMES.
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UM, OUR NEXT PROJECTS, UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE, UH, ANOTHER ROUND OF THE ANNUAL, UH, HOUSEHOLD HOUSES WASTE AND ELECTRONICS COLLECTION EVENT.
SO WE'RE AIMING TO HAVE THAT ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 8TH AT CITY HALL, UH, FROM 8:00 AM TO NOON.
UH, IT'S FREE TO RESIDENTS OF CITY OF SEDONA, AND UNINCORPORATED YAVAPAI COUNTY.
SO, IF, UH, INDIVIDUALS ARE ARRIVING TO THE EVENT, THEY'LL BE AN ADDRESS CARD THAT WE HAVE 'EM FILL OUT AS WELL AS, UH, WE ASK THAT THEY HAVE A UTILITY BILL OF SOME SORT, JUST FOR ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION.
UM, AND RESIDENTS, UH, THAT, UH, COME TO THE EVENT CAN, UH, DISPOSE OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS, INCLUDING, UH, PESTICIDES, PAINTS, UH, NO LATEX PAINTS.
UH, LATEX PAINT CAN BE, UM, DRIED OUT WITH LIKE ADDING WOOD CHIPS AND THEN DISPOSING OF AN, UH, TRADITIONAL, UM, TRASH RECEPTACLE.
UH, ALSO THEY CAN BRING IN MP3 PLAYERS AND, UH, TOASTERS AND MICROWAVES AND LIGHT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR THAT NO TELEVISIONS, UH, CAN BE ACCEPTED.
UH, TELEVISIONS, UH, CAN STILL BE ACCEPTED AT STAPLES, WILL ACCEPT FLAT SCREEN ONES.
THIS OLD C RT TELEVISIONS CAN BE SENT TO, I BELIEVE, THE TRANSFER STATION OUT IN COTTONWOOD.
SO SLIGHT CHAINS THERE, BUT NO TELEVISIONS, HOUSEHOLD CHEMICALS AND CLEANERS WILL ALSO BE ACCEPTED.
NO AMMUNITION OR EXPLOSIVES AND WHATNOT ARE ALLOWED.
MOTOR OIL CAN BE SENT TO, UH, RESPECTIVE, UH, PARTS, UH, AUTO PARTS STORES, AS WELL AS THE CAR BATTERIES.
UH, MEDICAL WASTE AND COMMERCIAL WASTE WON'T BE ACCEPTED.
BUT, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE, UH, THIS EVENT, UH, COME UP AGAIN, AS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, OVER 43, ALMOST 44,000 POUNDS WORTH OF ELECTRONICS HAVE BEEN COLLECTED AND DISPOSED OF, OF THE EVENT IN OVER 32,000 POUNDS OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, HAS BEEN COLLECTED.
SO, UH, WE DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY, UH, AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS, UH, ON THE WASTE COLLECTION SIDE AND CLEAN HARBORS AND R THREE EWAS.
UH, AND SO THERE'S VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS THAT, UH, SHOULD BE GOING OUT IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS AND LEADING INTO THE NEXT WEEK, UH, ADVERTISING, UH, THE EVENT COMING UP.
SO IF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE, UH, SATURDAY MORNING ON OCTOBER 8TH, UH, STOP BY AND DISPOSE OF, UH, ANY WASTE HOUSEHOLD WASTE THEY NEED TO GET RID OF.
IT'S BEEN SITTING IN YOUR, UH, CLOSETS OR GARAGES FOR WAY TOO LONG.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN, UM, BEING WORKED ON SINCE THE SPRING.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SPRING IS THAT, UM, THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING WITH SOME OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE IN SEDONA, LISA WALLACE AND MOLLY SPANGLER.
I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE THAT SHOUT OUT SO EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND THE CONVERSATION CONSISTED OF, IS THERE A FUTURE FOR METRIC SPACE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES SPECIFICALLY FOR BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS IN SEDONA? WILL THE BUSINESSES BE WILLING TO GIVE US THEIR INFORMATION AND HELP US GET AN IDEA FOR FUTURE PROGRAMMING THAT WE CAN DO TO GET A HANDLE ON OUR COMMUNITY ADMISSIONS? BECAUSE AS A REMINDER, WE'RE JUST AT THE MERCY OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR COMMUNITY ADMISSIONS.
THEY REALLY HAVE TO HELP US THERE BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED IN HOW MUCH FUNDING WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL'S HANDS TO DO THOSE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
SO, UM, AS A RESPONSE TO THIS, IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE WOULD GO AND TAKE A NATIONAL RECOGNIZED PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN PROVEN SUCCESSFUL, AND WE ARE GONNA CONDUCT A PILOT PROJECT FOR THE PURPOSE OF GATHERING DATA POINTS FROM PARTICIPANTS, UM, TO INFORM FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ON A COLLABORATIVE, UH, SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS AND ORGANIZATIONAL PROGRAM HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY, STARTING WITH SU SADONA WITH THE GOAL TO EXPAND IT TO THE ENTIRE VERDE VALLEY.
UM, WE HAVE 10 SEATS FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
WE NEED TO FILL NINE OF THEM BECAUSE CITY OF SEDONA WILL ALSO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THIS PROGRAM.
SO, AGAIN, WE'RE PROVIDING THAT LEADERSHIP GOING FORWARD, SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS RIGHT ALONGSIDE YOU.
WE WON'T ASK YOU TO DO THINGS THAT WE AREN'T WILLING TO DO OURSELVES.
THE CYCLE FOR THIS RUNS FROM OCTOBER TO MAY.
SO IT FOLLOWS THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THAT GIVES THE PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS EIGHT FULL MONTHS TO WORK ON 54 ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE IN THIS SCORECARD ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ACTION ITEMS ARE, UH, KPIS OR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
AND WHAT THIS IS, IS THESE ARE THE METRICS THAT WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY THEY WANNA SEE US IMPLEMENTING.
SO WE'RE ASKING THE COMMUNITY, ARE YOU GONNA IMPLEMENT THEM TOO? UM, SO THE VERIFICATION FOR THIS PROGRAM IS CONDUCTED BY A NEUTRAL PANEL OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT OCCURS IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
AND THE PROGRAM CULMINATES WITH AN END OF CYCLE CELEBRATION, AWARDS, AND, UM, PARTICIPANT RECOGNITION.
SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS FOR THE YEAR, UH, YOU STILL GET A RIBBON FOR SHOWING UP, BUT THE REAL ACTION HAPPENS ONCE YOU START ACHIEVING THOSE GOAL, THOSE ACTION ITEMS IN THE PROGRAM.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF FRIENDLY COMPETITION, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE HIGH PERFORMING PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE NONPROFIT THAT DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM FOR
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THE LAST FOUR YEARS.I'VE BEEN A COACH FOR THIS PROGRAM, UM, BOTH IN TULSA AND VIRTUALLY FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
AND I'VE JUST SEEN IT SUCCESS, WHICH IS WHY I PROPOSE THAT WE BRING IT, WE BRING IT HERE FOR A YEAR AND RUN A PILOT PROJECT TO GATHER THAT DATA, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE TO REALLY TAP INTO OUR BUSINESS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND HELP THEM, UM, ALSO REACH GOALS OF REDUCTIONS.
SO, UM, WITHIN THE, THE SCORECARD, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S 54 ACTION ITEMS AND KPIS ASSOCIATED.
THEY FALL UNDER THESE SEVEN CATEGORIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, COMMUNICATION, COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, ENERGY, HEALTHY WORK ENVIRONMENT, MATERIAL MANAGEMENT, TRANSPORTATION, AND WATER.
UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T SHOW YOU THE SCHOOL CARD BECAUSE THAT IS PROPRIETARY INFORMATION.
EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE PROGRAM HAS TO SIGN AN NDA SAYING THAT THEY WILL NOT TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND SELL IT OR SHARE IT WITH ANYONE ELSE.
AND IN, IN RETURN, THE, UM, ORGANIZATION WHO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM, UH, PROMISES TO KEEP ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THE PARTICIPANTS, UM, SACRED AND CLOSE TO THE HEART WITHOUT PERMISSION TO SHARE THAT.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE DATA THAT'S GATHERED FROM THIS PROGRAM, THE INTENT IS, IT IS IF WE RUN THIS SUCCESSFULLY AND WE GET THE NECESSARY DATA, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ON HOW TO PULL RESOURCES AND CREATE A TRULY, UM, COMPREHENSIVE, WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT ANYBODY CAN USE HERE IN SEDONA, BUT ALSO VER VERDE VALLEY WIDE.
SO THAT, UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING INFORMATION SESSIONS FOR THAT.
WE HAVE TWO SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW, TWO SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, AND TWO NOW ON THE BOOKS FOR, UM, MONDAY.
INVITATIONS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE FELT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, VALUABLE RESPONSES, P ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGED BY PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM, AND THAT WE FELT THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO DEDICATE THE EIGHT MONTHS TO PARTICIPATING IN THIS, THIS PROGRAM WITH US.
UM, THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL PROGRAM KICKOFF IS OCTOBER 12TH, SO THAT'S THE WHITE REASON WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE OR, UH, ORGANIZATION SIGNED ON NOW SO THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO WORK WITH THEM LEADING UP TO THE KICKOFF ON OCTOBER 12TH.
HAVE HAVE SOME SIGNED UP ALREADY.
WE DO HAVE SOME VERBAL COMMITMENTS.
UM, I, I'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT STRONGER COMMITMENT BY THAT, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET 'EM THERE, BUT I'M TRYING REALLY HARD.
AND THIS IS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AS WELL AS, UM, SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND, UM, MY MENTORS IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT, AS WE'RE, UH, RIGHT ON THE HOME STRETCH HERE.
SO, UH, WE ALSO LOOKING AS, UH, PREVIOUS MENTION, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, TECHNOLOGIES, UH, INFORMED FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS MENTIONED ASU SITE VISITS.
SO, UH, DEVELOP REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
GET US TO THIS PART WHERE WE HAVE THAT DATA, WE HAVE THAT BACKING ON WHAT MIGHT WORK.
SO, UH, COLLAB, AS I SAID, COLLABORATION WITH WASTEWATER FACILITY WASTEWATER AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENTS.
UH, LOOKING AT POWER STRIP TIMERS, UH, WINDOW ATTACHMENTS, OCCUPANCY SENSORS, OVERLOAD TIMERS, DIMMERS, LIGHT SENSORS, WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH CAUSE COVERED IT, UH, AT THE ASU, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, UH, TO SEE WHICH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WE CAN PUSH FORWARD TO CONTINUE WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN, UH, THE ENVELOPES OF MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THIS IS A DEFINITELY EXPLORATORY PROJECT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO IS, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, PILOT PROJECT.
AS MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE REALLY GOOD IDEA ON THE AMOUNT OF, UH, WASTE OR THE, THE TYPE OF WASTE, THE WEIGHT OF IT OR WHATNOT THAT'S COMING OUT OF MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
UH, SO THIS IS A PILOT, POTENTIAL PILOT PROJECT TO GET US MORE OF THAT INFORMATION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOLAR COMPACTORS, UH, THAT WOULD BE NETWORKED.
UH, AND THEN THESE SOLAR COMPACTORS, UH, WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION ON LIKE THE HOW FOLD THE TRASH RECEPTACLE IS, UH, THE RESPONSE TIMES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO IT, GIVE US MORE MAPPING AND DATA WITHIN THAT.
THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE TO GET US THAT COLLECTION AND DATA RETRIEVAL, OR GIVE US THAT FIRST STEP, AS WELL AS REDUCING LABOR HOURS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO TRASH COLLECTION, AND BEING ABLE TO DIRECT THEM TO MORE EFFICIENT OR PRODUCTIVE OR VALUED HOURS VERSUS JUST MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE TRASH IS PICKED UP, UH, AS WELL AS IMPROVING AESTHETICS.
UH, THE, UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE ONES THAT WE ARE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT, THESE WASTE WAXY, BIG BELLY COMPACTORS, UH, THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE LEFT, THEY CAN BE WRAPPED IN ARTWORK AND DIFFERENT INFORMATIONAL COM COMPONENTS.
SO YOU CAN GET A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PIECE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ART DESIGNS, UH, FOR THESE, UH, TRASH RECEPTACLES, AS WELL AS, UH, THE GOAL, ULTIMATE GOAL IS REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RECEPTACLES NEEDED.
UH, LOT, A LOT OF TIMES, UM, WASTE RECEPTACLES END UP EVERYWHERE, AND THEN YOU HAVE MUCH MORE YET YOU HAVE TO SERVICE.
SO IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS AND REDUCE THAT AMOUNT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, AS WELL AS, AS POTENTIAL INCREASE IN CITY COMMUNICATION POINTS.
AS I SAID, THE, UH, THE, UM, COMPACTORS THEMSELVES CAN BE WRAPPED WITH DIFFERENT INFORMATION, HELP US MAP, UH, WASTE COLLECTION TRENDS, AND THEN PROVIDE TIMELY NOTIFICATIONS TO STAFF WHEN RESPECTIVE RECEPTACLE MIGHT BE, UH, FULLER, THE LIKE.
SO IT'S VERY EXPLORATORY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE INTERESTED TO SEE IF WE
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CAN MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD.UH, ADDITIONALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATIONS AT MORE LOCATIONS.
SO THIS ONE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HERE IS UP AT, UH, POSSE GROUNDS, UH, PARK.
UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PUT ONE HERE AT, UH, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THERE'S BEEN SOME EXPRESS INTEREST OF TRAILED SHUTTLES, UH, BUT WATER LINES MIGHT NOT BE THERE, SO EXTENSION OF THOSE WATER LINES MIGHT PROVE MORE COSTLY THAN THE WATER.
THE, UH, WATER FOUNTAIN OR WHATNOT WOULD BE IMPROVING.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE ON WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATIONS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO THOSE WATER, UH, SITES FOR RECREATIONAL USERS AND RESIDENCES, AND REDUCTION IN WASTE GENERATION FROM THEM, AND IMPROVE IN CLIMATE RESILIENCE.
THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, EXPAND ON THAT FOR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS.
SO ARE THERE FILTERS IN THOSE? YES.
THE, THEY WOULD'VE A FILTER IN IT, UM, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO YOU THERE, UH, ANOTHER PROJECT AS A C UH, C P PROJECT, UH, THAT, UH, WE JUST STARTED TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD HERE IS THE POSSE GROUND SOLAR LIGHT PROJECT.
UH, THE GOALS, UH, THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE TO IMPROVE PATHWAY PARKING LOT AND SAFETY LIGHTING, UH, THAT IS, UH, KIND OF OFTEN FOUND LACKING, UM, IN THE LATE HOURS, UH, AFTER SAY, UM, SOFTBALL GAMES ALIKE, WHEN EVERYTHING SHUTS DOWN, THE ACCESS, UH, SAFETY OF IT IS REDUCED.
UH, SO THIS IS CROSS COLLABORATION WITH, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION IN PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE FOR SOLAR, L E D BALLARDS AND STANDS, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE NO ELECTRICAL GRID TIE IN, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE A NEW UTILITY BILL COMING IN FOR THOSE LOCATIONS.
UH, THEY WOULD GOAL WOULD BE TO REDUCE, UH, INSTALLATION COSTS AS WELL.
CAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DIG A TRENCH WITH X UH, X FEET, X AMOUNT OF FEET OF ELECTRICAL LINE.
UH, AND ALSO STILL TRY AND PROVIDE MORE DIRECT LIGHTING CONTROL.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PROGRAMMABLE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN SHUT 'EM OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME, UH, TO RESPECT, UH, RESIDENCES IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN DARK SKY COMPLIANCE.
SO THE MAP YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IS JUST A VERY PRELIMINARY MAP, UH, TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THE, THE WALKING PASS AROUND THE AREA.
SO THE GREEN DOTS, UH, HERE ON THE LEFT ARE THOSE WOULD BE, UH, SOLAR BALLARD.
SO THOSE WOULD BE ABOUT LIKE THREE TO FOUR FEET HIGH.
NOT A A, A LOT OF DIRECT BRIGHT LIGHT, JUST KIND OF ILLUMINATING INITIAL PATHWAY.
UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF SMALLER, UH, BROWN DOTS HERE, UH, JUST, UM, FOR POTENTIAL LIGHTING AGAINST A FENCE THAT IS HIGHLIGHTING, UH, THAT AREA.
AND THEN THESE KIND OF GREEN STARS, UH, WOULD BE A TALLER STAND THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED FOR PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A PROGRAM OF OPTION THERE, SO THEY'RE NOT ON, UH, 24 7, BUT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INCREASED SAFETY, UH, IN THOSE SECTIONS.
I KNOW THAT KSB HAS BEEN, UM, VERY INTERESTED IN THE, THE DARK SKY, UM, LEVELS THAT WOULD BE PRODUCED HERE.
UH, HAS THERE, HAVE YOU CONSULTED WITH THEM AT ALL? UH, I HAVE NOT CONSULTED DIRECTLY WITH KSB.
THE CONTRACTORS OR THE, UM, COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THESE SOLAR LIGHTS, UH, WERE EXTENSIVELY, UM, KIND OF VETTED OR WERE REVIEWING PRODUCTS THAT WOULD HAVE LIKE AN AMBER FILTER OR AN AMBER TENT TO MAINTAIN A SOLID DARK SKY COMPLIANCE INSTEAD OF JUST A BRIGHT WHITE L E D, UH, THAT WOULD IMPACT, UM, IMPACT THAT DARK SKY COMPLIANCE ASPECT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A DEFINITELY INTEGRAL PART THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAIN.
UH, IT STILL MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA JUST TO CONFER SINCE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE AN INTERESTED PARTY AND WE KNOW THAT THEY WILL COMMENT AT SOME POINT.
SO WE MIGHT AS WELL SOLICIT THAT.
WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT COUNSELOR.
WE HAVE A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH K KSB.
UH, SO MOVING ON TO, UH, THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE, UH, VERY INTERESTED IN AND EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS VERY MUCH IN THE EXPLORATORY PHASE, AND WE ARE STILL LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
UH, BUT THE REASON WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED PROGRAM, UH, AND HAS SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BUT, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST.
AND SO, UM, HOW IT WORKS IS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS SIGN UP FOR THE PROGRAM, UM, SEND IN APPLICATIONS TO, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM, UM, AND SPEND THE, THE FOLLOWING YEAR, UH, IMPLEMENTING A VARIETY OF ACTIONS AND WORKING TOWARDS, UH, ACHIEVING DIFFERENT GOALS, GOALS THAT ARE FOCUSED IN, UH, FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND SO THOSE AREAS, UH, ARE AIR, ENERGY, WATER, LAND, AND PEOPLE, AND, UH, WITH EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, SO, EXCUSE ME, UH, EACH NEIGHBORHOOD WILL, UH, FORM A WORKING GROUP OR WORKING COMMITTEE, UM, WHO PLANS AND EXECUTES ON, UH, DIFFERENT GOALS AND, AND EVENTS AND PROJECTS.
COUNSELOR, CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE, ONE OR TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE PROJECTS OR EVENTS OR THINGS ARE? UM, SO I AM NEXT WEEK GOING TO BE DIVING INTO, UH, WHAT THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS COULD BE.
SO THE ANSWER IS NO UNTIL THE NEXT UPDATE, WHICH IS FINE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT UPDATE.
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COUNSELOR, WE CAN SEND YOU SOME, UM, PROGRAM INFORMATION AS EARLY AS TOMORROW.SO, UH, WE'LL BE GETTING SOME ORIENTATION FROM THEM LATER ON.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CREATING MORE WORK FOR YOU.
IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER, THAT'S FINE.
I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE IT AT SOME POINT AND I'LL HEAR IT.
SO THEY'LL BE, UH, UH, FORMING A WORKING GROUP AND COMMITTEE, UM, AND EXECUTING, UH, DIFFERENT GOALS AND PROJECTS, UH, WITH THE GUIDANCE, THE MENTORSHIP OF SUSTAINABILITY STAFF TO, UH, SUPPORT THEIR EFFORTS AND TO GIVE THEM ADVICE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO HELP THEM, UH, CARRY OUT THEIR PROJECTS.
UH, SOME CITIES HAVE ALSO DONE IT WHERE, UH, MENTORS DON'T HAVE TO COME FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT THEMSELVES, BUT THEY CAN BE OTHER PROFESSIONALS WITHIN, UH, THE, UH, WITHIN SEDONAS GOVERNMENT, UH, WHO ARE INTERESTED IN MENTORING, UM, IN THIS PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO ONCE NEIGHBORHOODS ACHIEVE, UH, CERTAIN AMOUNT, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROJECTS, UM, AND GOALS, THEY WILL ACCRUE, UH, A NUMBER OF CREDITS AND WITH ENOUGH CREDITS, UM, THEY WILL PASS.
IF THEY PASS A CERTAIN THRESHOLD WITHIN THAT PROGRAM, THEY WILL GAIN CITYWIDE RECOGNITION.
UM, SO THAT RECOGNITION CAN COME IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FORMS. BUT, UH, THE MOST COMMON FORM WITHIN THIS PROGRAM IS, UH, RECOGNITION ON OUR CITY WEBSITE, BUT ALSO IN PERSON RECOGNITION AND CONGRATULATIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, AND SO THROUGHOUT THIS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THE SUSTAINABILITY STAFF, THE, OR THE MENTORS, WILL KEEP TRACK OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD'S, UM, UH, NUMBER OF CREDITS, NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS THAT THEY HAVE ENGAGED WITH, UM, AND THE NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT THEY'VE PUT ON EACH YEAR.
UM, AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHY WE'RE JUST SO EXCITED AND INTERESTED IN THIS PRO UH, PROGRAM BECAUSE, UH, IT JUST BUILDS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCY, UH, NETWORKS, UH, NETWORKING AND TRUST BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, UM, BUT ALSO JUST OVERALL IT HELPS THE CITY MOVE TOWARDS A MORE SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT FUTURE.
UM, AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD, UH, WE'LL BE GAUGING A PUBLIC INTEREST IN THIS, UH, PROGRAM, UH, LATER DOWN THE LINE AS WE, UH, CONTINUE WITH OUR, UH, PUBLIC FACING EVENTS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INTERESTING PROGRAM.
I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF USEFULNESS FOR NOT JUST YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ACROSS ALL THE CITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, POLICE DEPARTMENT, CRIME WATCH MAY BE THE, THE, I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE, SUSTAINABILITY, SAVING LIVES, AND MAYBE, UH, PEOPLE WHO HELP KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS TO PICK 'EM UP IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONNECTIONS THAT COULD APPLY ACROSS THE CITY.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STRETCH BEYOND THE SUSTAINABILITY A LITTLE BIT.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE'RE GONNA END ON OUR, UM, OUR TENTATIVE PLANS RIGHT NOW FOR OUR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AND CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATES.
SO WE WERE ALREADY, UM, SCHEDULED AS PART OF OUR WORK PLAN TO DO THE FIRST EVER UPDATE TO THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN OCTOBER OF 22.
WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING TO DO THAT THIS FALL.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, PLAN THAT WE'LL BE KICKING OFF THE PROJECT OFFICIALLY, UM, NEXT WEEK.
OUR PRIMARY GOALS FOR THAT UPDATE ARE TO PROVIDE STATUS UPDATES ON ACTION ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, ADD NEW GOALS AND ACTION ITEMS AS WE COMPLETE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY PRESCRIBED AS PART OF THE PLAN, AND PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, AS PART OF THIS PLAN, AS WE'VE GROWN AND MORE PEOPLE HAVE SEEN IT AND, UM, MORE PEOPLE ARE DIGESTING IT AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, UM, TENTATIVELY FOR OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, THE FIRST EVER UPDATE, WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THAT, UM, LATE IN JANUARY OF 2023 RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S DEFINITELY GONNA DEPEND ON WORKLOAD AND, UM, HOW MUCH SUPPORT WE'RE GONNA NEED FROM, UM, EITHER INTERNAL, OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR, UM, EXTERNALLY.
SO WE'RE REALLY ARE GONNA JUMP IN AND START EXPLORING THAT IN JANUARY.
AND WE'RE, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY, UM, A VERY BIG UNDERTAKING FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND DON'T WASTE OUR TIME AND RESOURCES ON IT.
BUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE DO FOR THAT UPDATE IS PROVIDE A DETAILED ASSESSMENT AND PROCESS RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE, UM, SPRING 2023 COUNCIL UPDATE, WHICH WE ARE INTENDING TO DO IN MARCH OF 2023.
THAT'S WHEN WE'LL DO OUR NEXT COM, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING UPDATE AS WELL.
WE WANNA INCORPORATE FRESH COMMUNITY INPUT, UH, CORRECT IDENTIFIED ERRORS.
UM, BRYCE DID MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE SOME ACCOUNTING ERRORS.
THERE'S ALSO SOME ERRORS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT WE WANNA CORRECT, UM, BECAUSE THEY, THEY LEAD TO FALSE EXPECTATIONS.
WE ALSO WANNA PROVIDE ADDITIONALLY STATUS UPDATES ON ACTION ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED,
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AD METRICS AND KPIS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE DESIRE OF BOTH COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OUR TEAM.AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION AS NEEDED BASED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE DIGESTING THIS PLAN AND HAVING OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS, REAL VALID QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE EXPLORED AS TIMES CHANGE, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.
AND WE FIND OUT NEW UPDATES ON, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE REALLY FACING IN REGARDS TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
UM, SO I ALSO WANTED TO, WHILE WE'RE ON THIS SLIDE, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT PUT INTO REALLY UNDERSTANDING SEDONA AND THE COMMUNITY AND OUR GOVERNMENT AND LEADERSHIP HERE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT I RECENTLY SAW THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY IS THAT GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING, IT'S VERY EASY TO BECOME VERY FOCUSED ON THAT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A HUGE UNDERTAKING TO DO THAT.
AND A LOT OF GOALS ARE BASED ON GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING, BUT THAT IS ONE ASPECT OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE.
SO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT WE TRY TO PUT IN PLACE TO INCREASE RESILIENCY AND CONNECTIVITY AND NETWORKING, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING PROGRAMS THAT HELP OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESS OWNERS IN DOING THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO, OR THINGS THAT THEY CAN'T DO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT FROM ORGANIZATIONS OR THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
SO I JUST WANNA KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE PUSHING AS WE GO OUT AND HAVE MORE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, IS THAT GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT, BUT ONLY ONE COMPARED TO THE GRAND SCALE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN SEDONA, WHICH IS TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AS SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO MAKE IT AS RESILIENT AS POSSIBLE.
AND I REALLY FEEL THAT WE HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO IT, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE, SEE THAT HAPPEN.
WITH THAT SAID, THAT IS THE REST OF OUR PRESENTATION, SO WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION AT YOUR WILL.
DO ONE HERE FROM PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC FOR SPEAKER IS STEVE, SHES
IT'S OCCURRED TO ME THAT IF I COULD COME TO EVERY START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY RESIDENCE, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS STEVE SLE, CITY OF SEDONA.
AND, UM, IT'S OCCURRED TO ME THAT IF I COME TO THE NEXT 20 COUNCIL MEETINGS, I CAN HAVE THREE MINUTES, TIMES 20 WOULD BE A FULL HOUR OF YOUR ATTENTION, BUT I SEE NO, NO AT POINT IN DOING THAT.
YOU'VE HEARD OF ME OFTEN ENOUGH, AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
I JUST WANNA SAY I'M EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD HERE THIS EVENING, AND I WANNA THANK EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, UM, PERSONALLY, I MEAN, UM, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
I THINK, UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS CLIMATE PROBLEM IS JUST MY ISSUE AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAVE THEIR ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC OR HOUSING OR ANY OF THE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT ARE FACING THE CITY.
BUT REALLY, I THINK THIS IS NOT MY ISSUE.
IT IS, IT'S MY GREAT GRANDCHILDREN'S ISSUE AND THEIR CHILDREN'S ISSUE.
IT'S OFTEN IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CLIMATE, WE HEAR REMARKS ABOUT, OH, SUCH AND SUCH BY 2050 OR SUCH, SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN BY, UH, 2100 IF WE DON'T, IF WE DO OR DON'T DO CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT I WON'T BE AROUND BY 2100 AND NOT NONE OF YOU WILL, AND PROBABLY NOT EVEN BY 2050 IN MY CASE.
AND, UH, BUT JUST I'M THINKING GENERATIONS AHEAD THAT ARE GONNA LOOK BACK AND SAY, UH, GRANDFATHER STEVE, WHAT, WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE DONE MORE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHY DIDN'T YOU, WHY ARE WE IN THIS SITUATION? SOME OF THE, THE FORECASTS THAT I'M SEEING ARE FOR ARE NOT HOPEFUL, NOT GOOD.
IT'S DIRE THE SITUATION, IT'S CRITICAL.
AND SO, SO I, I DO THIS KIND OF, I DON'T ENJOY THIS ACTUALLY, IT'S STRESSFUL, BUT WHAT I DO IS WHAT, IN THIS, MY CAMPAIGNING, MY ADVOCACY, MY, UH, LOBBYING, ALICIA MIGHT CALL IT PESTERING NO
SO I DO IT AS A FORM OF PSYCHOTHERAPY ON MYSELF, BECAUSE IF I JUST SIT HOME AND READ, YOU KNOW, SCROLL THROUGH REPORTS ABOUT THE CLIMATE CRISIS, THE CRI, CLIMATE CHAOS, CLIMATE CATASTROPHE, CLIMATE, UNSUSTAINABILITY UNPREDICTABILITY, IT GETS PRETTY DISCOURAGING.
SO, SO I'M JUST HAPPY TO, TO HEAR WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT.
AND I, I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO TRY TO, AS WE GO FORWARD AND HEAR ALL THESE DETAILS ABOUT NEXT WEEK AND NEXT MONTH, WHAT'S GONNA DO IS KEEP THIS BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF GENERATIONS AHEAD.
I MEAN, OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING IS JUST FINE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
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MUCH OF YOUR TIME AS I'LL TAKE, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, PEGGY JACOB, PEGGY SHAKE, UH, SEDONA, I'M ALMOST SPEECHLESS HERE OVER THE AMOUNT OF, UH, INFORMATION THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S LIKE THE, UH, GARY LARSON, CAN I GO HOME NOW? MY BRAIN IS FULL.
I, I, I THANK YOU SO MUCH AND IT, AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE YOU REALLY ENJOY YOUR WORK.
AND THAT ENTHUSIASM, I THINK IS FILLING THE ROOM AND IT'S GOING TO HELP ELEVATE OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS WITH OUR, THE PLANS GOING FORWARD.
UM, YESTERDAY I WENT TO THE, UM, VERDE WATERSHED, UH, UPDATE OF THE CONFERENCE ON THE REPORT CARD OF THE VERDE RIVER.
UM, AND THERE, UM, DOCTOR, UM, AARON SAFI, UH, ARIZONA STATE CLIMATOLOGIST, UH, TOLD US THE AUDIENCE THAT THE REGIONAL TRENDS DRY FROM THE DATA SHOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE HOTTER DRYER AND MORE VARIABLE WEATHER.
UM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE MONSOONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT REALLY VARIABLE WEATHER, UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE LONG TERM DROUGHT SITUATION THAT AFFECTS THE VERDE RIVER.
UM, THE VERDE RIVER IS FED BY GROUNDWATER, AND GROUNDWATER IS NOT BEING REPLENISHED, AND IT AT THE RATE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE GROUNDWATER IS FED BECAUSE OF, UM, SNOW PACK.
AND THE SNOW PACK IS DIMINISHED, AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE DIMINISHED BECAUSE THE WINTERS WILL BE, UH, DRIER AND HOTTER.
AND SO, UH, WE FACE A LOT OF PROBLEMS REGIONALLY, UH, THE VERDE RIVER AND, UH, THE TRIBUTARY IS THE WATERSHED.
I DON'T MEAN TO BE A DOR HERE BECAUSE I'M JUST TOTALLY ELATED BY ALL THE INFORMATION AND THE DYNAMICS OF THIS CONVERSATION AND THE FOCUS AWAY FROM JUST THINKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, GREENHOUSE GASH CALCULATIONS AND THAT TOWARDS THE HUMAN IMPACTS OF ALL OF THIS.
AND, AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
AND THE WAY ALICIA BRILLIANTLY AND THE TEAM BRILLIANTLY HELD THE COMMUNITY MEETING OF SUSTAINABILITY 1 0 1 AND ENGAGED.
YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, DYNAMICS GOING ON THERE THAT, UM, AND WE ARE ANSWERING A LOT OF THE DYNAMICS THAT WENT ON AT THAT MEETING, UM, RIGHT HERE BY SAYING, YEAH.
UM, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH GETTING, YOU KNOW, MINING AND, AND SLAVE LABOR AND ALL OF THESE HORRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH, WITH PEOPLE THAT GET INVOLVED WITH, UH, A NEW INDUSTRY AND, AND THE NEW, UM, RUSH TO SOLVE A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW? UM, SO I JUST WANNA JUST SAY, UM, I, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE MY SHEETS HERE.
WHAT I DID WAS I PRINTED OUT THE WHOLE LIST OF THINGS.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA SAY I LOVE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS INITIATIVE.
I LOVE, UH, THE UPDATE ON THE COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, AND I REALLY LOVE THE INFUSION OF ALL OF THE NECESSITY OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UM, YOU NEED TO WRAP UP BEGGING.
UH, SEDONA, UH, I'LL BE BRIEF.
I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE SCIENCE IS, UH, IS, UH, APPROPRIATE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS A GOAL WE SHOULD ALL SUPPORT AND I SUPPORT IT.
UH, THE ONLY THING I WANT TO WOULD WANT TO ADD IS THAT THE CITY REALLY NEEDS TO REFRAME THIS, UH, ARGUMENT IN TERMS OF COST SAVINGS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE, THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT'S REAL.
UH, BUT REALLY IF WE INSTITUTE A LOT OF THESE CHANGES, UH, THROUGH SAVING MONEY PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THINGS SUCH AS DEPLOYING HEAT PUMPS IN CITY FACILITIES, UH, TRYING TO DEPLOY AS MANY EVS AS POSSIBLE AND USING PHOTOVOLTAIC, THAT'S ALL GREAT THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN DO IMMEDIATELY.
SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE PUSHING FORWARD ON BOTH, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE AND PUBLIC, UH, USE OF THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO REDUCE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE USE OF A CARBON.
UH, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE 6,000 HOMES IN THE CITY, AND IF YOU DID LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND GAVE $3,000 A PIECE, $18 MILLION WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAD FOLD FULL TAX.
SO IF YOU HAD 18 MILLION SITTING AROUND, THAT'D BE A GREAT THING TO SPEND IT ON.
UH, COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST, KATHY, THANK
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YOU.I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
I REALLY JUST WANNA, WANNA THANK YOU.
UM, THE WORKLOAD THAT THIS DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN ON IS INCREDIBLE.
UM, IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU'RE HARDWORKING AND IT RESULTS ORIENTED AND A TEAM, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, ALSO I, THAT THE APPROACH THAT YOU'VE TAKEN IS BOTH INNOVATIVE WITH NEW PROGRAMS AND THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF ADDRESSING THINGS, BUT ALSO PRACTICAL.
AND I REALLY, THE FIRST CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER THIS EVENING AS WELL, WHEN WE DID GO INTO WHAT WOULD BE THE SAVINGS FOR PEOPLE REGARDING, UM, UM, THE APS PROGRAM, UH, IT, IT, I THINK MR. TIMBROOK RAISED A POINT THAT IT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW HOW IT AFFECTS THEM, UH, AND WHERE THEY CAN BE SAVINGS TO GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE.
SO, AND I THINK THAT THIS TEAM IS AWARE OF THAT, AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED ALSO WITH YOUR WILLINGNESS AND VISION TO DO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND TO TRY TO MESSAGE THIS.
I DO THINK THAT THAT COMMUNICATION, WHICH SPEAKS AGAIN TO MR. TIM BROOK'S POINT AS WELL, IS, IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS, THAT THAT HASN'T ALWAYS GOTTEN THE ATTENTION THAT IT'S DESERVED.
SO I JUST REALLY WANTED TO, TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, UM, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND I THINK THAT YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION NIGHT HAS CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED THE COMMITMENT OF SEDONA, UM, TOWARD TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES THAT ARE OUR LOCAL ISSUES TO ADDRESS.
WE ALL HAVE A ROLE IN THIS AND TO PLAY A PART AND THE VARIETY OF PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING FORTH SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE HERE TO BE A PART OF TRYING TO AT LEAST MITIGATE.
WE KNOW HOW SERIOUS THE ISSUE IS, BUT YOU'VE GIVEN SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE CAN REALLY TRY AND HELP MITIGATE THE PRESSURES THAT ARE ON OUR LOCAL ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS REGIONALLY AND BEYOND.
SO, AGAIN, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
YOU'VE GIVEN US SO MUCH TO THINK ABOUT, BUT I REALLY THINK I NEEDED TO GO OUTTA MY WAY TO COMMEND EACH OF YOU.
YEAH, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THE PRESENTATION.
I'M PARTICULARLY, I PARTICULARLY LIKE THE TAKING OF, OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE, THE DRAWBACKS AND THE, THE FAILINGS OF, OF, OF A LOT OF, SOME OF THE STUFF AS IT DEVELOPS.
IT'S A, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S EMERGING, IT'S DEVELOPING.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF, OF TECHNOLOGY AND TWISTS AND TURNS.
AND I THINK THAT'S SUCH A, SUCH A GREAT WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
I'M ALSO VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE AND VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE, THE COMMUNITY BUILDING THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, I THINK ALL COMMUNITIES NEED THAT.
THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND SO MANY ISSUES.
SOME PEOPLE THINK SUSTAINABILITY IS ONLY RECYCLING AND ONLY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN ONE BIG LUMP AND LET SOMEONE ELSE WORD IT OUT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO, WHO SEND THIS ANALYSIS, VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS OF VERY ARCANE ISSUES.
SO YOU HAVE THE WHOLE GAMUT, AND I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SERIES OF PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN WHEREVER THEY WANT.
I ALSO LIKE YOU REFRAMING SUSTAINABILITY AS OUR COM, COMPARTMENTAL COM COMPARTMENTALIZING THE CONTROVERSIES SURROUNDING CLIMATE, UM, WARMING GLOBAL AND CLIMATE CHANGE, SORT OF INSULATING THAT FROM THE REST OF THE WORK THAT ACTUALLY CAN BE DONE AND WHICH FALLS UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION.
I THINK THAT THAT BECOMES A LIGHTNING ROD FOR DESTROYING EVERYTHING THAT, THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED, AND THAT I THINK MOST OF THE COMMUNITY COULD GET BEHIND IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO I DO, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THAT KIND OF REFRAMING THE, THE ISSUES SO THAT IT, IT SORT OF DIFFUSES A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE MORE EXPLOSIVE ASPECTS OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
I ALSO GIVE MY CONGRATULATIONS TO A JOB.
UH, I WISH WE COULD CRACK THE CODE, MAYBE YOU'LL DO IT ON HOW TO COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY
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AND COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS IS ONE ASPECT OF THAT.UH, I KNOW THAT ALICIA, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UH, COMMUNITY PLANNED COMMITTEE, AND I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO FOR OUTREACH.
I JUST DID MY SURVEY YESTERDAY AND THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS IN THERE ABOUT WHAT OUR VISION FOR SEDONA IS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN TAKE ALL THIS WORK AND, UM, AND SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THAT WILL ENGAGE MORE.
BECAUSE I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I HAVEN'T, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO IN, IN, WHILE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF FINANCIAL CAPABILITY AS, AS A CITY TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR A LOT OF THINGS, RIGHT? WE HAVE WASTE WATER BILLS, BUT, AND A FEW OTHER THINGS, BUT NOT TOO MUCH.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO? AND I WOULD LIKE ALSO TO, TO SAY, LET'S NOT STOP PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE'VE RUN OUT OF MONEY.
SO, SO FAR NO WAY'S BEEN TURNED AWAY AT ALL.
AND WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT.
BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO PROVIDE ABSOLUTELY.
AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, IT'S, IT'S GOOD ON EVERY LEVEL THAT WE CAN IMAGINE.
SO THIS WORK IS JUST PHENOMENAL.
I TRULY, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SINCE THE END OF JANUARY MM-HMM.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY TREMENDOUS AMOUNT AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
MAYOR, I TOO APPLAUDED YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE OTHER 90% OF YOUR STAFF IS AT THE MOMENT TO DO THESE THINGS, UM, BECAUSE I DO GET A LITTLE NERVOUS THAT YOU GET A LITTLE DISTRACTED BY A LOT OF THINGS.
AND, UH, AGENDA ITEM THREE B TONIGHT WAS DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS MADE IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND, UH, UH, ACT.
AND THE MOUNT BUDGETED IS ALL ACTIVE CLIMATE ACTION PLANNING ISSUES BUDGETED FOR 23, UH, ADDITIONAL CPA INITIATIVES MAY REQUIRE FUNDING THAT WILL BE REQUESTED AS PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGETING PROCESS.
WE HEARD A NUMBER THROWN OUT OF 18 MILLION IS A THOUGHT.
UM, OUR REAL GOAL IN THE WHOLE C I P C A P, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR ONES WE'RE HEADED FOR, IS TO REDUCE THE EMISSIONS BY 50% BY 2030.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE KPIS AND THE METRICS WILL BE COMING OUT IN JANUARY, AND YOU'LL BE DOING SOME MORE PLANNING.
UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS STARTS SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THAT THE RETREAT, THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR WILL BE TOGETHER WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF DECIDING WHAT ARE THE MAIN INITIATIVES? WHAT, WHAT IS THE FOCUS.
PEOPLE OFTEN SAY THE CITY NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT.
MY ANSWER TO THAT IS GRAB A COPY OF THE BUDGET.
ALLS YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THAT AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE CITY IS INVESTED AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO IT BASED UPON WHAT IT DID FOR THAT YEAR.
SO IF EIGHT YEARS WERE LEFT FOR THE C P, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FIRST ON THAT TO CONTROL, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DEFINE IN THE EMISSIONS AND, AND WHAT THE COST IS GONNA BE.
UH, SOME OF MY FELLOW COUNSELORS HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, WILL IT'S SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO SPEND, UM, I'D SAY THAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH AS A COST ON AN AVERAGE BASIS PER METRIC TON OF, UH, CO2 TO BE REMEDIATED.
BECAUSE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR EVERY MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE PUT ON, THAT YOU FIGURE OUR GOAL BETWEEN NOW AND 2030 IS GONNA REQUIRE US TO HAVE A NUMBER OF 110 HUNDRED TO $110 PER METRIC TON.
AND IF IT TAKES 2 MILLION, THEN WE GET TO SPEND 200.
BUT IF WE DECIDE IT'S 2000, WE HAVE TO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, TO SET THAT COURSE EARLY ON.
UH, SO MY GUIDANCE TO YOU WOULD BE, BE REALLY READY IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, GET THAT MONEY ALLOCATED.
NOW, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SPREAD 20 MILLION OVER EIGHT YEARS THAN IT IS OVER TWO YEARS.
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SO, UH, UH, AS WELL AS GET THE JOB DONE.UH, SO THAT WOULD BE MY INPUT.
AND, UH, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
COUNSELOR LAMPKIN WILL DEFINITELY DO OUR RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AS PREPARED AS POSSIBLE FOR THAT, UH, BUDGET RETREAT AND TO GET THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL TO SET OUR PROGRAMMING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
I DO WANNA TAKE A, UH, A MINUTE JUST TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN WHEN WE DO ACHIEVE OUR REDUCTION GOAL OF 50% BY 2030, THAT THAT'S GREAT.
WE'LL THROW A PARTY, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN SEDONA.
WE WILL STILL HAVE TO FACE THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN OUR AREA THAT WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING, NO MATTER WHETHER WE HIT THAT GOAL OR NOT.
THAT GOAL IS MORE AS A SOCIETY GOAL TO HELP IN COLLABORATION WITH ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE SET THOSE GOALS AND DEDICATED, UM, THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO TRY TO LIMIT GLOBAL WARMING UNDER 2% OR TWO DEGREE CELSIUS.
UH, BY, I THINK 2030 IS THE, THE YEAR RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT IT, THE WAY THINGS ARE TRACKING, AND WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY REALLY YET, BECAUSE IN OUR MINDS OUR PROGRAMMING, WE NEED TO INCREASE RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL AS MAKE SURE WE MEET THAT GOAL, RIGHT? BUT IN THE LONG RUN AND THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, MEETING THAT GOAL IS GREAT.
AND OF COURSE, FOR MY, MY REPUTATION, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE MEET THE GOAL.
I DON'T WANNA FAIL, BUT WE, THE OTHER PROGRAMMING IS ALMOST MORE IMPORTANT, RIGHT? THAN DOING THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE IN CASE THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION ON, UM, REACHING THAT GOAL IS GONNA SAVE THE DAY, AND WE WON'T HAVE TO DO ANY MORE WORK.
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE WORK TO DO IN THIS FIELD.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE COMMENTS MADE ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, THOUGH, AND THAT GOAL WAS THAT CLIMATOLOGISTS ARE SAYING CO2 IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO THE PROBLEM.
SO YES, THAT WAS WHY THERE WAS THAT FOCUS THERE.
AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA RESTRICT YOU FROM ACHIEVING YOUR GOAL OF A HUNDRED PERCENT BY 2030.
YOU CAN ACCELERATE IT AS WELL.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT.
I, I'M GONNA ECHO EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID, UH, TO THIS POINT.
I'M TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY IMPRESSED, UM, BY EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, AND IN THE, A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING THE, DURING THE LAST, WHAT HAS IT BEEN, FOUR HOURS, UM, WHEN I WAS, HAD A, HAD A LITTLE BREAK FROM TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE, THE TECHNO TECHNOLOGY AND THE TECHNICAL DISCUSSIONS AND, AND WHATEVER, UM, I, I HAD THIS, UM, THOUGHT THAT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS A, IS A TEAM THAT REALLY REFLECTS REALLY WHAT ITS CHARTER IS.
UM, YOU ARE, YOUR, YOUR CHARTER IS UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN, UM, IN, IN QUITE A WHILE, IN, IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE BREADTH OF TOPICS THAT CAN FALL WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW AND THE DEPTH THAT'S NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND THEM.
AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S A KIND OF TASK THAT WOULD BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THEIR KNEES, REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING YOU DO IS, UM, LOOKING AT A VERY BLEAK FUTURE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
SO, UM, I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE, THE VERY SPECIAL NATURE OF YOUR GROUP THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
AND, UM, UH, I JUST, UH, REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, AND I AM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
MY GOD, AFTER YOU'VE BEEN HERE A YEAR, EIGHT MONTHS, WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
THANK YOU MANAM BEAR, I CAN'T ECHO ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU FIRST IN A DAY IS, BUT WHAT I WANT TO ADDED IS HOW MANY TIMES YOU SHOWED INTEREST IN BEING TRANSPARENT AND INTEREST IN REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE WE ALL SHARE ON THIS DAIS AND SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO ENOUGH OF.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
JUST I, MAYBE FIVE OR SIX TIMES, I, I CAUGHT LITTLE SNIPPETS OF OUTREACH, COMMUNICATING, LISTENING.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE DONE.
AND I WILL, UH, JOIN IN ON EVERYBODY ELSE'S KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU.
IT'S INCREDIBLE IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I HOPE THAT WE ALL HAVE THE TIME AND CAPACITY TO MAKE IT THROUGH ALL THOSE TASKS,
AND, UH, I HAD NO, ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA
SO, UH, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR WORKING SO HARD, AND WELCOME
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TO OWEN AND ZACH TO THE TEAM.AND OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN USE YOU,
SO, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, MA'AM, IF NOT WITHOUT OBJECTION, WORD ADJOURN.