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UM,[PSPRS Local Board Meeting ]
IF THIS IS 10:02 AM IF WE COULD CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE AND HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
FOR RICHARD STATE STANDS, ONE UNDERGROUND.
AND IF WE COULD HAVE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.
AND SERGEANT PELLER WILL BE LATE.
UM, WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH APPROVAL WILL BE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 21ST, 2022 MEETING.
WELL BY WHAT'S SORRY, COMMISSIONER, WHAT ARE WE,
WE HAVE NO INDICATION THAT ANYBODY HAS CALLED IN.
SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE ADOPTION APPROVAL OF THE NEW LOCAL BOARD PROCEDURES, WHICH WERE SENT OUT.
THE LAST REVISIONS THAT WE DID AT THE LAST MEETING.
HAS, UM, EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THEM OVER IN THE PACKET TO MAKE SURE THEY CONFORM? I THE LAST, UH, BRENDA, THE LAST CHANGES THAT YOU AND I DID ON THE PHONE, DID THOSE OR ON THE VIA EMAIL? YES.
UM, AND THOSE WERE IN BEFORE THEY WERE SENT OUT IN THE PACKET.
SO EVERYTHING IN THE PACKET CONFORM.
SO EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE AND COMPARE THEM TO THEIR NOTES? YEP.
OKAY, THEN LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THESE? WE'VE DID OVER THEM, UM, THREE TIMES, RIGHT.
SO I THINK, UH, I THINK WE INCORPORATED EVERYTHING.
I KNOW THEY MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE RULES ITSELF.
SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'VE GOT IT FINALLY.
THANK YOU TO OUR THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AS WELL.
UM, SO CAN YOU JUST SAY SOMETHING QUICK AGAIN? DID I SAY SOMETHING? NO.
I WASN'T SURE WE WERE HEARING YOU, BUT NOW WE GOT YOU.
SO BEING NO DISCUSSION, UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION, UH, OF THE LOCAL BOARD PROCEDURES? AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR PACKET AS THE MOTION I'D UP TO MAKE MOTION CHAIR.
PURSUANT TO ARS 38 8 47 F, THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS ISSUED WITH DECEMBER 22ND, 2021.
GUYS MODELED UNIFORM RULES OF LOCAL BOARD PROCEDURES.
AND THIS IS KNOWN A LOCAL RETIREMENT BOARD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT THE THE NEW LOCAL BOARD PROCEDURES AS WE REVIEW IN OUR PACKET, WHICH THE MOTIONS IN HERE RIGHT? MOTION IS, THIS IS GOOD TRAINING FOR NOVEMBER.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE PROCEDURES OF A SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCAL RETIREMENT BOARD BASED ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT BOARD SYSTEM REVISED MODEL, UNIFORM RULES OF LOCAL BOARD PROCEDURE CREATED A PURSUANT TO ARS 38 8 47 F ADOPTED BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON DECEMBER 22ND, 2021.
I WAS LOOKING, I WAS, I'M GETTING
ANYONE OPPOSED? NO ONE'S ABSTAINING.
THIS IS LIKE THE GREATEST PROJECT.
UM, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM FIVE ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS THE UPDATE ON BOARD MEMBER AND END OF TERM VACANCIES AND THE RESIGNATION.
UNFORTUNATELY A BOARD MEMBER CHIEFS DON'T WET EXIST.
WE JUST DON'T ACCEPT IT WAS ACTUALLY SHE HAS THE POWER OF APPOINTMENT.
DO HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE GET TO PLEASE?
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ON THE, UM, MEDICAL DISTRICT QUESTIONNAIRE? WE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT.THE ONE THAT PETE EMAIL OR WHAT? THIS ONE THAT'S USED, THE EXISTING CONDITION, THE FORM THAT I INCLUDED THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE UNDER, IS THAT UNDER ITEM SEVEN? I BELIEVE THE ROOM TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW THIS, THIS IS PART OF, THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVE AS HR, UM, THAT IS SENT WITH THE POLICE OFFICER WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PRE-EMPLOYMENT PHYSICAL.
SO THIS FORM IS WHAT IS GIVEN TO THE OFFICER ALONG WITH THE FORM FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT.
THAT GOES TO THE EXAMINING POSITION AND THEN THAT INFORMATION COMES TO ME AND I FILL OUT THE HUMAN RESOURCES MEMO FROM THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO ME FROM THE DOCTOR.
WHO CRAFTED THIS REPORT? WHERE THIS IS REPORT? WHAT'S THE ACTUAL FORM? YEAH, IT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE ME.
THIS FORM ITSELF? YEAH, I THINK, UM, IT'S OUR AZ POST ON THE BOTTOM OF THE ONE CERTIFICATION BOARD.
SO AZ POST, WHICH IS ALL WHO WE AND ARIZONA ARE CERTIFIED THROUGH AS OUR OVERSEER CERTIFICATION.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE THIS IS THEIR FORM.
THEY SEND OUT THAT IS REQUIRED FOR US TO DO ON ANY SWARM.
CAUSE THERE'S NO, UM, IT'S A VERY OH, ON WHICH ONE ARE YOU THINK THE PREEXISTING PREEXISTING REPORT CONDITIONS REPORT FORM? YES.
THAT ONE IS, UM, THAT YEAH, THAT ONE WAS IN PLACE BEFORE ME ALSO THINK JOAN DID IT.
JOANNE MAY HAVE, I THINK JOAN CREATED IT.
SO, AND THEN THE SINGLE PAGE ONE.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? UM, I DO.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS EVEN WHETHER WE COULD, AND THAT WAS PROBABLY RESIGNATION.
WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT, UM, UNDER THE ADOPTION OF THE PROCEDURES, UH, BECAUSE IT'S PART PROCEDURALLY, HOWEVER, LET, LET'S GO BACK TO THAT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY MOVE ON TO ITEM UM, FOUR.
UM, IS THERE MINOR QUESTION FOR ITEM, BUT, UM, GIVEN THE NEW YOUR, I'M SORRY.
SAY YOU SAID REALLY A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ANYMORE FEDERALLY STILL FEDERALLY FALLS UNDER REGULATIONS NOT, UM, STATE.
I THINK SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS WRITTEN LIKE THIS.
SO, UM, AND, AND OUR EASY POSTS, WELL PROBABLY SHE CAN ANSWER THIS EVEN AS WELL, BUT, UM, OUR POST CERTIFICATION BOARD HAS, HAS CHANGED SOME OF THE REGULATIONS AS FAR AS THE USAGE AND TIME OR IT USED TO BE YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 20 TIMES AFTER THE AGE OF 21 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM, HAVING SOME, UM, LENIENCY IN THAT BECAUSE IN OTHER PLACES IT'S BECOME LEGAL.
SO NOW THEY'VE ADOPTED THE TIMEFRAME FROM YOUR LAST USAGE JUST KNOWING THAT THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED.
AND SO THIS IS FEDERALLY, WELL, IT'S STATE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT FEDERALLY IT'S STILL NOT ALLOWED.
SO, SO IT'S SUPERSEDES ANYTHING IN OUR THAT WE WOULD CHANGE, WONDERING? YEAH, NO, JUST, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ON IT, BUT IT, UM, WITH MARIJUANA BEING LEGAL IN THIS STATE MM-HMM.
SO, UM, WELL JUST LIKE ONE WOULDN'T DRINK, BUT I CAN DRINK WHEN I'M NOT ON SHIFT.
BUT I CAN'T SMOKE MARIJUANA NOT ON SHIFT WHEN I'M NOT ON SHIFT BECAUSE FEDERALLY YEAH.
THEN I HAD JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.
AND THAT'S JUST A QUESTION, NOT A, I'M JUST WONDERING.
I THINK THEY IN SOME, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW INTEREST ACTUALLY.
I JUST NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING AT SOME OF IT THROUGH ASKING ABOUT HEAD INJURIES OR, UM, HEADACHES OR OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD MAYBE INCORPORATE THAT.
WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT ON THE FORM, PLEASE? NO, THERE IS NOT, NOT ON, IT'S NOT POST FORM.
IT ASKS ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT I GOT AND IS NOTICING THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ABOUT NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS.
SO I, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A MIS TO ME
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET JUST, CINDY, IF
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WE WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE FORM, FIRST OF ALL, ARE WE AGENDA FOR THAT DISCUSSION AT THE MOMENT? JUST A QUESTION.AND THEN SECONDLY, WOULD WE BE ABLE, WELL, LET'S ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION FIRST.
ARE WE AGENDAS TO DISCUSS THIS? I DON'T THINK SO.
AND I IS IT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AZ POST FORM FOR THE PRE EMPLOYMENT PHYSICALS? YEP.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT A, A BOARD CAN CHANGE AN AZ POST FORM.
BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN CHECK INTO THAT.
I, I JUST, I I'VE NEVER SEEN A BOARD DO THAT BEFORE.
IT'D BE, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO HEAR EASY POST OPINION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S INTENTIONALLY NOT IN THERE OR NOBODY EVER ASKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND WHETHER THEY THINK ABOUT, I'LL SAY, SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT NEUROLOGICAL ISSUES? YEP.
SO, UM, IF YOU WANNA PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME, I CAN ADDRESS THAT 16 DISORDER OF THE NERVOUS SYSTEM.
SO IT IS THERE 16 IN SECTION B.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP THOUGH, ANNE.
WE CATCH, SO TO LOOK FOR THAT.
ANY, UH, DO DID, DID YOUR EAGLE EYE CATCH ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULDN'T THINK ABOUT? IT WAS JUST THE
NO, I JUST THOUGHT, OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST DIFFERENT.
THIS IS WHY WE WENT DIVERSITY ON THE BOARD.
PEOPLE CATCH THINGS, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA? YES.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, IS, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WHERE
I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GREAT, BUT HERE YOU'VE JUST BROUGHT SUCH A HISTORY AND I MEAN SUCH AN EVEN LEVEL KEEL.
I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS BOARD, ON THIS BODY.
DO WE NEED TO ACCEPT A RESIGNATION OR IS IT JUST IT WAS DONE? I THINK IT'S INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR, IT'S NOT US ANYWAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN APPOINTMENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO ALL WE CAN DO IS EXPRESS OUR, I'M NOT SURE THE SCREEN.
TECHNOLOGY I JUST, I CAN DO IS EXPRESS OUR, OUR REGRET AND OUR, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE REASON THAT YOU'RE LEAVING.
AND, AND I DO WANNA WORK WITH, UM, SERGEANT PEIR TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT HE CONTINUES GREAT WITH, UM, WITH HELPING AND THEN WHOMEVER MIGHT BE THE NEXT PERSON THAT THAT JOINS.
UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF VALUE IN HAVING A VOICE AND BRINGING UP THINGS THAT DIFFERENT BOARDS MIGHT NOT KNOW OF THE PAST OR JUST PROCESS AND PROCEDURES IN GENERAL.
UM, WELL, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE KINDNESS TOO WHEN YOU, WE DEALT WITH MM-HMM.
OF OUR, THE ISSUES THAT WE DEALT WITH MM-HMM.
SO THE OTHER POSITIONS, WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL, UM, SERGEANT PERE WAS ELECTED, REELECTED AND CAUSE RE NOMINATED, REELECTED.
AND HE WILL HAVE, UM, A TWO YEAR, TWO YEAR TERM.
AND NOW WE, THERE'S A VACANCY THAT'S BEEN CREATED AS OF TODAY.
SO THERE'LL BE ANOTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT ELECTION.
UM, NOMINATION, UM, TIMEFRAME IS GOING ON NOW AND WE'LL BE COMPLETED NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE WILL DO, UM, AN ELECTION OF THE NOMINATED PEOPLE BY SWORN PD STAFF TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOMINATE OR ELECT THEIR NEXT REPRESENTATIVE MM-HMM.
AND THERE'S JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.
ONCE THAT ELECTION IS MADE, YOU'RE NOTIFIED AND, YOU KNOW, TO PUT THAT PERSON ON THE LIST, THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE AND PERSON WILL COME TO AND THERE'S NO ACTION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN RIGHT.
AS FAR AS ANYTHING IN THE MEETING THAT'S MEETING MY UNDERSTANDING TOO.
THERE IS TRAINING THAT IS NOT REQUIRED.
UM, AND SERGEANT PELLER HAS TO DO THE TRAINING AS A RE-APP APPOINTEE ALSO.
HE'S BEEN SENT THAT INFORMATION TO DO THAT TRAINING.
THE NEW APPOINTEE WILL BE SENT THAT INFORMATION TO UM, DO THE TRAINING AND YOU HAVE 180 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE OKAY.
WATCH THE VIDEOS THAT ARE THE TRAINING.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER VACANCY COMING BOOMING NOW.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A RESIGNATION? I HAVEN'T BECAUSE MY TERM IS ACTUALLY UP NOW.
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I THINK IS HOW WE WANT TO CONTINUE.NOTHING TO DO THAT UNTIL NOVEMBER AT LEAST BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW.
THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP IN, IN HERE AS WELL.
UM, I MAY NOT BE ON THIS BOARD ANYMORE AND PETE MAY TAKE THIS POSITION THAT, BUT THAT REALLY WILL DEPEND ON AFTER THE, THE ELECTIONS.
BUT I THINK, UM, FOR CONTINUITY'S SAKE, WE DON'T WANNA MM-HMM.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, IF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, CAN PETE HOLD TWO ROLES? CAN HE BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL POSITION AND A BOARD MEMBER HERE AS WELL? I WAS TOLD NO.
DO YOU KNOW CYNTHIA FOR SURE? UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT I CAN FIND OUT ABOUT THAT.
I, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT HAPPEN FOR YOU SAID, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
THAT'S NOT OPTIMALLY WHAT WE WANNA DO, BUT AT LEAST FOR AN INTERIM PERIOD, A MONTH OR TWO OR WHATEVER, UNTIL THINGS GET STRAIGHTENED OUT, WHICH MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE WHILE HERE IN SEDONA
CUZ YOU ASSUME OFTEN NOVEMBER, UH, THE 28TH I THINK IS THE PROJECTED.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT LIKE IN DECEMBER WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANYTHING.
IF WE, IF WE WERE EVEN MEETING, BUT, SO YOU COULD FIND OUT FOR SURE.
BUT THEN BRENDA YOU SAID YOU, YOU HAD ASKED AND IT, YOU CAN'T HOLD TWO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE FOR THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY.
THAT, UM, IT WOULD YOU, HE CAN'T HOLD BOTH ROLES.
HE HAS TO BE EITHER A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S APPOINTED OR A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WOULD BE APPOINTED AS I BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE.
BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE YEAH.
IF YOU CAN VERIFY YEAH, CYNTHIA, AND JUST LET ME KNOW.
EITHER WAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE DON'T EXPECT A RESIGNATION FROM PETE TO BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL AT LEAST NOVEMBER 20.
SO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S LOOMING.
IS IT ANY QUESTIONS ON OR COMMENTS ON THAT? WELL, I GUESS IF, IF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT YOU CAN ONLY BE ONE OR THE OTHER, THEN I GUESS THEN WE WOULD HAVE A BOARD OF FOUR IF SOMETHING CAME UP IN THAT SHORT INTERIM MM-HMM.
IT'S, I GUESS TO THE POINT IT'S NOT IDEAL TO HAVE SHORTAGES BUT RIGHT.
I MEAN IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT LIKE TODAY WITH CASEY NOT BEING HERE.
THAT IF IT WOULD ALMOST JUST BE LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, I THINK WHEN YOU WERE ON A TRIP HE THAT, UM, WE JUST HAD THE BOARD TOGETHER FOR YEAH.
WE WERE THREE OF US, BUT THAT WAS STILL HARM.
SO AS LONG AS WE CAN STILL MEET THOSE RULES AND I, I GUESS WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT IN THE SHORT TERM AS AN ISSUE.
AND I'VE SEEN BOARDS, UM, HAVE VACANCIES FOR PERIODS OF TIME, YOU KNOW, LONGER THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE BECAUSE I'VE HAD TROUBLE FILLING THE SPOT.
IT'S NOT UNUSUAL WITH, ESPECIALLY IN SMALLER JURISDICTIONS TO HAVE A VACANCY FOR A A PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT, UM, ONE VACANCY IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE MATCH.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD HAVE, I DON'T EXPECT IT'LL BE PROLONGED BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT I CAN REPORT HERE THAT WE HAVE HAD, UM, IT WAS POSTED AND WE HAVE HAD, I THINK WE HAVE THREE ACTIVE, THREE OR FOUR ACCOUNTS.
SO WE HAVE, HE'S YOU'VE WITHDRAWN YOUR APPLICATION THOUGH, CORRECT? YES.
SO WE HAVE THREE ACTIVE, UM, APPLICATIONS.
SO I JUST, I KIND OF SEE IT AS, AS A NONISSUE GOING INTO IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WOULD STILL HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT.
TO, TO HOLD MEETINGS FOR A SHORT PERIOD.
BUT IT DOES SHOW THE POWER OF THIS BOARD.
WE GOT BOARD MEMBER SENDS TO CHIEF, A BOARD MEMBER THAT SENDS I TELL PLACE TO BE YOU'RE NEGATIVE A PRESIDENT.
WHAT'S YOUR ASPIRATION?
CAN I BE ON YOUR CABINET? UM, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
SO THAT WRAPS UP I THINK, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, OUR DISCUSSION ON ITEM FIVE.
MOVING TO ITEM SIX, REVIEW AND FOLLOW UP ITEMS. ACTUALLY THINK THE FOLLOW UP ITEM IS WHERE YOUR QUESTION FALLS, PETE.
SO COULD YOU, YEAH, SO MY QUESTION WAS A CONTINUATION OF THE WORK THAT WE JUST COMPLETED NOW, UH, WITH OUR LOCAL PROCEDURES AND NOW WE NEED TO EFFECTUATE SOMEHOW THIS, UH, THE, OUR BOARD'S ROLE IN EXPRESSING TO THE PHYSICIAN THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE, UH, THE PRE-SCREENING REQUIREMENT AND WHETHER THAT ENDS UP, CAUSE YOU KNOW,
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OUR RULES SAY THAT THE BOARD HIRES THE PHYSICIAN, BUT WE PUT IN THERE THAT IT COULD BE THE, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT, PHYSICAL, THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT PHYSICIAN.BUT I STILL THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE EVERYONE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FORM OF THE CONTRACT WE HAVE IT IS WITH THE PHYSICIAN AND PUT WORDS IN THAT CONTRACT THAT EXPRESSES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PRE-SCREENING PHYSICAL AND PERHAPS, UH, A ROLE FOR THE BOARD IN THE HIRING OR THE RECONTRACTING OF THE PHYSICIAN IN THE FUTURE, UH, WHENEVER THAT MIGHT BE.
SO I GUESS, UM, I, WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS INVITING DR.
WESLEY TO A MEETING AND HAVING A CONVERSATION SHOWING HIM AND, AND JUST, I GUESS INTRODUCING THAT IDEA AND MAYBE THAT HELPS THE BOARD SEE WHAT, WHAT HIS GOAL IS AND, AND HAVING, WITHOUT TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANY ONE PERSON OR SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT, UM, MAYBE SINCE THAT IS PRIMARILY WHO WE USE FOR OUR PRE-EMPLOYMENT.
UM, NOW LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE MIGHT NOT, IF HE'S NOT AVAILABLE, HE'S ON VACATION AND WE HAVE THIS URGENCY TO GET SOMEBODY IN AND WE CAN'T GET IN HIS TIMELINE THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMEBODY IN PHOENIX.
SO YOU MIGHT THINK OF HAVING A LETTER DRAFTED THAT GOES DOWN WITH THAT PAPERWORK OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? YEAH.
ALONG WITH THOSE FORMS THAT ARE TAKEN.
LIKE MAYBE THERE'S SOME LETTER YEAH.
AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GIVE AS FAR AS THE, THE GOALS OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT, OR, UM, MAYBE IT'S BOTH AND OR YOU ASK DR.
WESLEY TO COME FOR A MEETING SINCE THAT'S PRIMARILY WHO WE WOULD USE IN TOWN AND JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION.
UM, AS FAR AS WHAT THE BOARD, UM, LOOKS AT AND YOU KNOW, IS THERE A CONTRACT WITH THE DOCTOR BOLEY? I DON'T THINK THERE'S A CONTRACT, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THAT IS PRIMARILY WHO WE USE AROUND HERE.
UM, AND AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACTED RATE AND THE IDEA OF WHAT IT IS WE NEED HIM TO DO WHEN, WHEN THERE'S THIS, UM, QUESTIONNAIRE AND STUFF.
BUT THERE'S NOT A CONTRACT MAYBE WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? NO, IT'S NOT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WITH IT'S WITH HIS OFFICE.
WELL, HE'S THE ONLY PERSON, BUT, UM, YEAH, WITH, I MEAN WITH HIS OFFICE IT'S THAT WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HIRE, THEY, THEY GO TO HIM FOR THE, THE QUESTIONNAIRE, THE PHYSICAL OR ANY, UM, TEST THAT MIGHT COME UP.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE'RE TRYING TO SEND ARE PRIMARILY TO.
IF HE'S NOT AVAILABLE THEN WE TRY AND FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF WHAT HE, HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? WELL, I MEAN WE JUST HIRED SOMEBODY, UM, WHO'S CURRENTLY ON THEIR FIELD TRAINING AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA BE REVIEWING THAT PACKET PRETTY SOON, RIGHT? IT'LL BE IN THE NEXT MEETING.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE THAT'S AT THE ACADEMY RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE A TESTING TOMORROW, WHICH WE'RE, UM, TRYING TO HIRE TWO FROM TO GO TO, UM, THEY WOULD BE BRAND NEW.
SO THEY WOULD GO TO THE ACADEMY IN JANUARY.
SO I MEAN THERE'S, I THINK YOUR, YOUR QUESTION WAS HOW OFTEN HAVE WE USED IT? SOMEONE OTHER THAN DR.
IT REALLY IS BASED ON OUR TIMING OF HIRING PEOPLE.
WESLEY BECAME SOMEBODY WE WERE USING MORE BECAUSE HE HAD HIS NEW OFFICE HERE.
UM, I MEAN YEARS AGO WE USED WESLEY WHEN HE WAS IN COTTONWOOD AT THE VER VALLEY MEDICAL GROUP.
UM, SEE I LIKE, I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF TALKING TO THE PROFESSIONAL, BUT IF HE'S THE PROFESSIONAL ONLY LIKE 60% OF THE TIME AND SOMEONE ELSE IS GONNA DO IT DIFFERENTLY THAN I DON'T THINK THAT'S YEAH.
THEN WE GOT THAT DOESN'T MEET THE NEED.
WHAT WE COULD DO IS, BRENDA, I MEAN YOU COULD LOOK AT OUR LAST FIVE HIRES AND SEE WHO WE USED AND, AND AND WOULD MEETING WITH THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL ACTUALLY SATISFY IT OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DIRECT INSTEAD? SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH A CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH, BUT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT CRAFTING THAT'S SAY, THAT'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA AND AND THIS IS A PIECE THAT WE NEED DONE.
CUZ I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, THAT WAS MORE THE DIRECTION I THOUGHT.
I MEAN I I I HAD JUST ASSUMED THINKING THROUGH THIS THAT SURELY WE MUST HAVE SOME TYPE OF STATEMENT OF WORK WITH A PHYSICIAN THAT DOES THIS WORK SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, NO MATTER WHO IT'S WELL, AND AND THEY DO JUST BECAUSE FOR THEM TO BE A DOCTOR THAT CAN DO THESE, UM, THEY'VE BEEN SIGNED OFF AS APPROPRIATE TO, TO DO THESE FOR, FOR AZ POST FOR OUR CERTIFICATION BOARD.
IT'S NOT ANY DOCTOR YOU CAN GO TO TO DO, GIVEN HOW THE CITY WORKS.
I WOULD JUST BE SHOCKED IF THERE WASN'T SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT EXISTED.
YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SUGGESTION, WELL ACTUALLY, CYNTHIA, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD KNOW,
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UH, MAYBE ABOUT OUR CONTRACT OF WORK OR WOULD THAT BE OUR CITY ATTORNEY FOR THIS ON, ON THIS ITEM TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT? CAUSE I THINK THIS IS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE YOUR CITY ATTORNEY.I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN A CONTRACT.
I KNOW THAT A BOARD'S CONTRACT OR THE CITY'S, UH, EMPLOYERS CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE TO DO THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT PHYSICALS.
SO, BUT I I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY REVIEWED ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS.
WELL, AND, AND JUST TO SHOW YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, LIKE WE TRY AND USE FOR CONSISTENCY THE SAME PEOPLE CAUSE IT HELPS US, BUT EVEN FOR THE PSYCHOLOGICALS AND THE POLYGRAPHS THAT THEY GO THROUGH, WE TRY AND USE THE SAME COMPANY.
BUT IT'S THE SAME IDEA THAT IF SOMEBODY IS NOT AVAILABLE, WE MOVE ON TO OUR, OUR BACKUP PERSON, SOMEONE ELSE SO THAT WE'RE NOT DELAY.
SO WE, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT FOR US AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THIS IS WHO WE'RE USING THAT WE FOUND, UM, TO, TO BE CREDIBLE OR YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE WOULD USE.
SO, UM, IT'S USUALLY A, IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE THEN THIS.
AND WE, WE HAVE OUR PRIMARY AND THEN OUR BACKUP.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, CUZ WE'RE NOT CONTRACTING WITH 'EM, WE DON'T HAVE A WRITTEN CONTRACT, YOU ARE PERSON.
UM, IT MIGHT BE THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF A APPROVED RATE THAT YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE US AND IT, YOU CAN'T GO CRAZY OFF THAT.
UM, BUT IF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT THE LETTER THAT YOU WANTED TO CRAFT AND WHENEVER WE HAVE A PERSON THAT GOES DOWN AND THEY READ THAT, OR IT GOES BACK TO IF THE BOARD'S NOT COMFORTABLE WITH WHO WE HAVE AND POTENTIALLY DOING A SECOND EVAL THAT WOULD COME ONTO THE CITY'S BUDGET FOR A SECOND.
I, I'M, I'M JUST GETTING A WORD THAT WE'RE GOING VERY DEEP INTO THIS TOPIC AND IT ACTUALLY WAS JUST AGENDAS FOR POSSIBLE FOR REVIEW AND FOLLOW UP ITEMS. AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE TO GO INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS.
SO WHAT I'M THINKING IS, IS IS PETE, I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUT THIS IN YOUR LAP.
UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE THE CLEAREST IDEA OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND I THINK YOU DO NEED TO MAYBE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH KURT ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE REPORT BACK TO CYNTHIA BUT, UH, OR THROUGH BRENDA.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD AGENDA THAT SPECIFIC PIECE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING THIS UNDER ITEM SEVEN AND ADDED ON FOR AN INDEPTH DISCUSSION.
YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, I DID TAKE A SHOT YESTERDAY AND PUTTING TOGETHER SOME LANGUAGE THAT I THOUGHT COULD BE INSERTED INTO SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT HAVE EXISTED.
AND, AND IF ONE DOESN'T THEN WE JUST HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER VEHICLE TO EXPRESS TO WHOEVER THE PHYSICIAN IS THAT THEY HAVE SOME DUTY TO THIS BOARD, WHICH COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT JUST SAYS, WE KNOW THAT THE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE, WHO MAKES THE APPOINTMENTS POLICE, YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT'S GIVEN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WHEN THE APPOINTMENT IS SET UP THAT THE LANGUAGE IS TRANSMITTED.
I MEAN IT COULD BE THAT SIMPLE.
BUT AS I SAID, I THINK IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF, OF THE AGENDA.
SO COULD YOU CHECK WITH KURT? YEP.
AND THEN REVISIT YOUR LANGUAGE.
SEND YOUR LANGUAGE TO IF, IF, IF THE CURRENT THING DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, STEP TWO WOULD BE LOOK AT YOUR LANGUAGE AND SEND IT TO CYNTHIA FOR CYNTHIA TO LOOK OVER TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PITFALLS FOR IT.
AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING THAT ROUTE FOR THAT TO COME ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM FOR ADOPTION OF THAT LANGUAGE.
TO BE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS BOARD DOESN'T THE RIGHT STEPHANIE TO ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PLEASE USE THIS IN YOUR TRANSMISSION.
YEAH, I MEAN IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO INTO OUR GROUP OF FORMS THAT GO DOWN YEAH.
SO, OR WITH THE, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE THIS, THIS, THE DOCTOR, WHOEVER THE EXAMINING PHYSICIAN IS SIGNATURE ON IT AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT'S ALL ONE OF THEIR MANY THAT THEY'LL JUST GO SIGN SIGN.
AND NOT REALLY, IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE CLEARLY THEY WOULD, THEY, THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A DUTY THAT EXISTS.
SO DOES THAT WRAP THAT UP DOES, I WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER REVIEW OR FOLLOW UP ITEMS? OKAY.
THEN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE ONE WE JUST DISCUSSED, WHICH WAS, UH, AGAIN, WE JUST DISCUSSED, I'M NOT GONNA RESTATE IT.
THE SECOND ITEM IS, UH, NEW MEMBER ADMISSIONS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME.
EITHER ONE OR TWO DEPENDING ON WHEN WE HAVE THAT MEETING.
AND UM, THE THIRD THING IS THE DROP AND REHIRE LEGISLATION INFORMATION PRESENTATION BY CYNTHIA.
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YOU JUST IN VERY BRIEFLY, CUZ WE DON'T WANNA HAVE THE PRESENTATION NOW, BUT COULD YOU TELL US WHAT YOU EXPECT THAT PRESENTATION TO BE? JUST SERIOUSLY, LIKE TWO SENTENCES? YEAH, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.THERE'S HOUSE BILL, UH, 2 63 THAT'S ON REHIRE AND SENATE BILL 1268 IS ON THE NEW EXTENSION OF DROP.
SO I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHO, WHO CAN APPLY TO EXTEND THEIR DROP FOR THE, THE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, 24 MONTHS.
AND UM, AND THEN ALSO ON HOUSE BILL, THERE'S JUST A SLIGHT CHANGE TO THE REHIRE, UH, PROCESS.
SO I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS VERY BRIEFLY AT THE MEETING THAT UNLESS PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, IT, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SHORT.
AND CYNTHIA, JUST SO THAT, UM, SINCE SERGEANT PE TIER'S NOT HERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIER ONE AND THE TWO YEAR POTENTIAL, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO PRESENT? CORRECT.
AND IT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING TIER TWO OR TIER THREE, THIS IS ALL TIER ONE WITH THE TWO YEAR, HOW MANY TIER ONES DO WE HAVE? I'M ONE
UM, I WOULD IMAGINE WE HAVE LIKE EIGHT OR NINE.
THAT'S MORE THAN I WOULD THOUGHT.
SO THOSE THREE ITEMS, UH, WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR A FUTURE MEETING? CAN I JUST SAY THAT NEXT TIME? UM, MAY OR MAY NOT BE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE NEW MEMBERS TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE THAT PRESENTATION HAPPENS.
DO HAVE NEW MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
OR DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE BEFORE? WELL, IT OR POSSIBLY BEFORE? NO, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR, FOR AT LEAST MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING, BUT AT LEAST FOR, UM, CINDY, THAT THEY CAN SEE ON PD.
I, I I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE NEED TO WAIT FOR AT THIS POINT BECAUSE PETE WILL BE A HOLDOVER AND MM-HMM.
I EVEN AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND THERE WILL BE AT SOME POINT AT THAT MEETING, THERE WILL BE ALSO BE, UM, A NEW, NEW HIRE, A POLICE NEW.
THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE PRESENTATION.
NO, BUT THAT'LL BE A NEW, ANOTHER ITEM AGENDA OR A FOUR ITEM.
SO THOSE ARE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME.
AND ARE YOU FOR NEXT TIME, LIKE NOVEMBER THAT WAY IT'S BEFORE OR, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING YOU WOULD HAVE THE PD SELECTION IN OCTOBER, SO YOU'D KNOW WHO, IF THEY CAN GET THEIR TRAINING DONE AND YOU HAD THIS IN NOVEMBER THAT IT REALLY WOULDN'T DELAY.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING BEFORE NOVEMBER 28TH.
YEAH, LET'S LOOK AT A NOVEMBER MEETING DATE.
I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE BOARD.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU FOR NOVEMBER 22ND, 22ND.
AND TODAY'S THURSDAY, WE TEND TO DO THURSDAYS.
WHAT ABOUT THE, THE, THE 10TH OR THE 17TH? 10TH IS A WAY BETTER DAY FOR YOU.
10TH IS A WAY BETTER DAY FOR ME TOO.
AND OKAY, I'M LOOKING, I KNOW I'VE GOT SOME TIME THAT I'M OUT IN NOVEMBER AND I CAN'T REMEMBER DATES.
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY TARGET DATE IF SOMETHING COMES UP, IT NEEDS TO MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER 10TH.
I'M OUT THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH.
I CAN SEE THERE IS A, A LEADERSHIP MEETING THAT DAY.
SO IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE AN AFTERNOON MEETING THAT'S, UM, FOR A CONFERENCE ROOM.
SO I'LL LOOK AT THE 10TH POSSIBLE.
SO AGAIN, SO NOW WE HAVE A TEVE DATE OF NOVEMBER 10TH IN THE AFTERNOON PENDING CONFIRMATION.
DOES THAT WORK FOR CYNTHIA? DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? CYNTHIA? PRESENTATION? YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE ONLY DAY I HAVE OPENED THAT WEEK, SO THAT WAS A GOOD DAY TO PICK.
ARE WE ALL GOING TO THE SAME THING? I DON'T THINK SO.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO, SO YOU HAVE FOUR ITEMS NOW FOR YOUR AGENDA.
WAIT, NO, RUN THROUGH THE FOUR CUZ I STILL HAVE IT AT THREE.
AND THEN THIS DROP IN REHIRE LEGISLATION.
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ARE YOU, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A, ARE YOU SAYING NEW MEMBER AS A, AS A POLICE OFFICER OR A NEW MEMBER OF THE BOARD? NO POLICE OFFICER.SO THEN I THINK THAT'S ONE IN THE SAME.
SO A NEW POLICE OFFICER TO CLIENT MEMBER MEMBERSHIP.
SO THEN THERE ARE THREE, RIGHT? THREE, THREE ITEMS. I WAS THINKING NEW MEMBER, I THINK MEMBER, THERE'S, THERE'S A TIMEFRAME ON WHEN WE HAVE TO TAKE THE ACTION FOR THE NEW PLAN MEMBER.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT SHOULD, I THINK WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THEIR PA OF THEIR GRADUATION FROM THE WELL, NO, THIS IS THE NEW OFFICER WHO STARTED THIS WEEK.
SO HE WOULD BE ABLE TO YEAH, WE COULD GET HIS INFORMATION IN IN TIME TO HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA.
SO THOSE THREE ITEMS, DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING BRENDA, THAT YOU NEED FROM US? I BELIEVE SO.
CYNTHIA, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA ADD? UH, NO, THAT'S IT.
SEEING NO OTHER BUSINESS GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, THREE TIMES WE'RE ADJOURNED.