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THE,[PSPRS Board Meeting on October 25, 2022.]
UH, MEETING OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE OF THE PRO SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM LOCAL BOARD AT 3:00 PM ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25TH, 2022.AND MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL OVER PLEASE? MAYOR MOYARDY? HERE.
THAT'S ALL OF US THERE ARE HERE TODAY,
SO THIS IS, UH, AS YOU KNOW, GARY, UH, THANKS FOR COMING IN AGAIN AND IT'S IN APPLYING AND, UH, THE PS PS BOARD, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU FIVE QUESTIONS AND MAYBE A FEW MORE IF SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION ON YOUR APPLICATION.
AND THEN YOU CAN ASK US ANYTHING YOU WANT.
AND SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS, MEETINGS ARE TYPICALLY HELD IN THE MORNING ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, AND YOU'RE, AND THE BOARD IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE TO MEET AT LEAST TWICE YEARLY.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE FOR WITH ENOUGH NOTICE? I CAN MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE EVERY TIME.
AND I DON'T KNOW TYPICALLY HOW MUCH NOTICE THERE IS.
IT ABOUT, LIKE, WE KNOW WHEN WE MEET HOW FAR OUT THE NEXT MEETINGS WILL BE, AND THEN WE START TRYING TO SCHEDULE THEM TWO OR THREE WEEKS PRIOR TO WHEN I NEED THEM.
UM, AND THE REASON THE MAYOR, UH, ASKED ME TO ANSWER THAT IS, IS I ACT AS THE CHAIR OF, OF THE, UM, BOARD AT THE MOMENT AT THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT.
UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING RECENTLY MORE OFTEN THAN AS USUAL, BUT NORMALLY I WOULD SAY MEETINGS HAPPEN ABOUT FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
MY WIFE LIKES TO TRAVEL MM-HMM.
THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD GET IN THE WAY THE MEETING DATE AND TIME IS FLEXIBLE EVEN.
SO IT SAYS TYPICALLY HELD THE FIRST THURSDAY.
WE DO MOVE THEM IF WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE SCHEDULES AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD PARTICIPANTS VIA ZOOM IF SOMETHING, IF THAT WAS NECESSARY.
SO THERE'S A WAY IT'S NOT, THE SCHEDULE IS NOT TOO ONEROUS.
AND SECOND QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIOR EXPERIENCE SERVING ON A PENSION BOARD OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF MUNICIPAL BOARD? AND IF YES, PLEASE DESCRIBE THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, BUT THE LONGER ANSWER IS, UM, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT I RETIRED FROM BEFORE I CAME TO SEDONA, WE HAD, UH, WE HAD A DEFINED CONTRIBUTION RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND WE TRANSITIONED TO A DEFINED BENEFIT SYSTEM THROUGH THE STATE.
AND, AND THAT TRANSITION WAS, WAS THE, THE MAJOR EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD WITH, UH, DEALING WITH RETIREMENT SYSTEMS AND PROGRAMS. UM, DONE A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE EXTREME, BUT I'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER BENEFIT PROGRAM THAT KIND OF PARALLELS THIS, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY THE LINE OF DEATH.
WELL, ONLY THE LINE OF DEATH, BUT, UH, UH, SO THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE.
WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY EXPERIENCE, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE? WHAT, WHAT DID YOU DO IN THOSE CAPACITIES? WELL, I WAS THE, THE OPERATIONS CHIEF.
UH, AND SO I HELPED, I WAS THE EDITOR FOR THE PAPERWORK, UH, FOR LACK OF, OF I THINK, UH, ONE OF OUR, OUR BOARD MEMBERS WERE, HAD AN INDEPENDENT BOARD, UH, AN INDEPENDENT FIRE DISTRICT.
AND, UH, ONE OF THEM IN FACT HAD, HE AND I HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED TOGETHER AND WE, HE HEADED UP THE MAJORITY OF THE PROGRAM, BUT I ASSISTED HIM WITH EDITING AND, UH, POINTING OUT FINER POINTS OF THE LAW THAT WERE COMING ABOUT.
AND, UH, AND THEN HELPED SET UP AND RUN THE MEETINGS FOR A WHILE CUZ WE, WE HAD SOME NAYSAYERS FOR OPEN MEETINGS AND OPEN MEETING LAWS AND, AND IT'S REALLY VERY SIMPLE
SO WORKING ON SCHEDULES AND THINGS I'VE NOT HAD TO DEAL WITH, UM, LINE OF DUTY RETIREMENTS,
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YOU KNOW, FOR CAUSE OR, OR, UH, AND I NEVER GOT INVOLVED WITH THE ACTUAL RETIREMENTS OF THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT, UH, I WAS THERE WATCHING OVER IT.THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY INVOLVEMENT.
WELL, AND JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEFINED BENEFITS AND DEFINED, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS? WHAT DID IT TAKE IN OTHER WORDS, TO CHANGE? OKAY, UH, INTERESTING.
IT WAS IN FLORIDA AND FLORIDA HAS, HAS, THEY HAD A, A STATE FUNDED SYSTEM THAT WAS BASED ON A SURCHARGE ON FIRE INSURANCE FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
AND THROUGH THAT PROGRAM THEY HAD A RETIREMENT SYSTEM, BUT IT EXCLUDED INDEPENDENT FIRE DISTRICTS WHEN WE, WHEN WE FORMED.
SO WE, WE COULDN'T TAKE PART IN THAT DEFINED BENEFITS PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE FINED BENEFITS PROGRAM TO THE LAW TELLS YOU WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO RECEIVE.
FOR EXAMPLE, OUR GUYS GOT PAID, THEY GOT MEDICAL INSURANCE, THEY GOT OTHER BENEFITS THAT WENT WITH THAT, AND THEY WERE DEFINED BY LAW.
UH, PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE IN A DEFINED CONTRIBUTION THAT WAS BASICALLY A CHAPTER 4 57 PLAN, UH, UNDER THE IRS CODE, WHERE A PERCENT WAS, WAS CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS YOUR TAKING INSTEAD OF, WE TOLD YOU WHAT WE WERE GONNA PAY IN, IN ADVANCE AND THEN YOU GOT WHAT YOU GOT INSTEAD OF THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU'RE GONNA GET THE BOTTOM LINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT PART? NO.
UH, WHAT IF ANY EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE WITH USING OR REVIEWING ACTUARIAL REPORTS? UH, GOING BACK THROUGH MY, UH, VAST EXPERIENCE AND MANY THINGS, I DON'T RECALL EVER HAVING ANY EXPERIENCE WITH ACTUARIAL REPORTS.
I HAVE TO BE HONEST, THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD STORY.
YOU KNOW? PARDON ME, I, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO,
SO YES, I NEVER APPLIED FOR THIS GROUP BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE'VE MADE RECOMMENDATION AS WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WAS VERY GOOD IN FUNDING OUR SYSTEM, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEM IS FUNDED AND WHERE WE ARE IN A GAP.
CUZ AS YOU PROBABLY WHERE MOST RETIREMENT BOARDS HAVE A GAP SOMEWHERE IN THEIR FACULTY STREAM.
UM, SO, AND SEDONA IS BETTER OFF THAN MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THERE STILL IS A GAP THERE.
SO UNDERSTANDING THE ACTUARIALS IS, UM, IS IMPORTANT PART.
WE NOW, WE HAVE A FINANCE DIRECTOR WHO TAKE US THROUGH IT VERY WELL.
I MEAN, THE PRESENTATIONS ARE SO WELL DONE THAT IT BECOMES EASY TO FIGURE IT OUT AND GO ALONG.
SO IT'S SORT OF ON THE JOB TRAINING.
I I MUST RESCIND MY PREVIOUS ANSWER.
AND SO IN THAT REGARD, I, I'M AT LEAST FAMILIAR WITH IT AND I, I HAVE REVIEWED IT.
UM, I'M, I'M THINKING OF LIFE EXPECTANCY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ACTUARIAL REPORTS RATHER THAN, UH, THE, THE FISCAL PART OF IT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF A BOARD, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE STILL PART OF IT.
BUT, UH, YES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE WORK THAT THE BOARD DOES IS SOME OF IT IS VERY MAKING SURE THAT THE BOXES GET CHECKED IN ORDER TO ADMIT SOMEBODY INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND THEN IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE BOXES ARE CHECKED TO, YOU KNOW, AWARD SOMEBODY OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
BUT THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT DO.
THE REVIEW OF THE FINANCIALS SYSTEM IS ONE AND THE OTHER IS WHEN WE LOOK AT A RULES AND PROCEDURE.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE THIRD, WHICH IS IF SOMEBODY HAS A DISABILITY CLAIM, WHICH IS, UM, I'LL HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WHEN WE GET FURTHER
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IN OUR QUESTION WITH THAT, BUT THAT BECOMES POSSIBLY THE MOST, UM, INVOLVED PROLONGED AND SENSITIVE OF THE DUTIES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOARD.ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE ARIZONA OPEN MEETING LAWS OR THE RULES AND USE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? IF YES, PLEASE BRIEFLY DESCRIBE YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
UH, AND, AND BASICALLY, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN THE WAY I I THINK IT APPLIES IS UNLESS IT DEALS WITH SENSITIVE PERSONAL INFORMATION AND POTENTIALLY LEGAL, THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF, OF THINGS, UH, IT SHOULD BE IN THE SUNSHINE.
WE USED TO CALL IT THE SUNSHINE LAW IN FLORIDA, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO, UH, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CROSSES THAT I HAD TO BEAR WITH OUR BOARD DOWN.
THERE WAS NO, YOU CAN'T TAKE THREE OF YOU AND GO INTO CHIEF'S OFFICE AND SIT DOWN AND NO, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, AND FORCING THAT TIME KIND OF THING.
AND, AND IT'S, UH, UH, THE MORE WE DO THINGS IN THE OPEN, AND THAT'S JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT, THE BETTER IT IS FOR EVERYBODY AND COOK, UH, OTHERWISE YOU, YOU, YOU TEND TO QUELL THE OPINIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE AND FRANKLY, IT AFFECTS THE WAY THEY THINK OF THE BODY, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, I, I'M A
AND, UH, WHEN WE HAD A NEW COMMISSIONER COME ON OUR FIRE COMMISSION, I ALWAYS PRESENTED 'EM WITH A COPY OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, JUST TO, TO MAKE SURE THEY, THEY, THEY KNEW THAT, UH, I HAVE TO, AGAIN, PROFESS I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF THE ARIZONA, UH, OPEN MEETING LAW.
BUT, UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE FLORIDA LAW.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S DOESN'T DEAL WITH PRIVACY AND SENSITIVE ISSUES AND LEGAL ISSUES, IT'S IN THE SUNSHINE AND CAUSE YOU'RE THE PEOPLE'S REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
ANY FOLLOW UP ON THAT YET? AND AS A BOARD MEMBER, YOU'LL BE MAKING DECISIONS REGARDING SWORN STAFF ON ISSUES SUCH AS MEMBERSHIP DATES IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, APPROVING RETIREMENT SERVICE PURCHASE REQUESTS, AND ON RARE OCCASION APPROVING OR DENYING DISABILITY BENEFITS.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH? WHY OR WHY NOT? WELL, I, I FEEL I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
UH, UH, EXCUSE ME AGAIN, I, I, UH, I REMEMBER I HAD, UH, A, A ONE OF MY FIRE CAPTAINS WHO WAS, UH, DIAGNOSED WITH A SEIZURE DISORDER.
AND, UH, I HAD TO DEAL WITH, I, I WAS THE INTERFACE WITH THE, THE FIREBOARD ON, ON WHAT TO DO WITH HIM AND THE, AND THE, HE CA CAN'T DRIVE.
AND I'M, I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK I WANT HIM IN COMMAND OF A SCENE, UH, PARTICULARLY WHEN FLASHING LIGHTS AND LOUD NOISES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TEND TO TRIGGER THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND SO WE, WE DEALT WITH THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, UH, AND THEY RESEARCHED, UH, ALTERNATIVE THINGS, WHAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU CAN'T DRIVE, WELL, WE HIRE OR DRIVE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING ACCOM REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS AND DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT, UH, UH, AGAIN, UM, I I, I'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME OF THOSE WITH THE, THE VETERAN'S ADMINISTRATION AND
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THINGS OF THAT.SO, UM, YES, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND, AND I THINK ONCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE STREET FOR OH, ABOUT THREE HOURS, YOU CAN TELL SOME OF THE ONES THAT AREN'T LEGITIMATE AND, AND THE OTHER ONE YOU CAN ASSOCIATE WITH WHY THEY COULD WELL BE LEGITIMATE.
AND, UH, READING THE PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE INDEPENDENT MEDICAL PEOPLE THAT DO STUDIES AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, UH, UH, I THINK I COULD RELY UPON THE MEDICAL AND INTERPRET ENOUGH THAT, THAT I COULD MAKE THAT JUDGMENT.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS COMFORTABLE, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE, UM, THE BOARD IS COMPRISED OF FIVE MEMBERS.
UM, TWO MEMBERS ARE ELECTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPRESENT THE POLICE PERSPECTIVE.
WE ALL REPRESENT THE PUBLIC INTEREST, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE EMPLOYEE PERSPECTIVE, THE POLICE, THE UNIFORM PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE, THE CHAIR IS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR TO ACTUALLY FACILITATE THE MEETINGS.
UM, AND THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE THERE.
THEY'RE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL EXACTLY TO DO THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO DISTINGUISH THOSE ROLES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE REVIEWING SOMEBODY'S CASE, A REQUEST FOR A DISABILITY OR SOMETHING, POLICE REPRESENTATIVES, THESE ARE COLLEAGUES, THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION.
BUT THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC MEMBERS IS TO MAYBE NOT HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE, TO BRING IN THE PERSPECTIVE OF WE'RE PROTECTING THE PUBLIC DOLLARS AND WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT, AT PROTECTING THAT INTEREST IN OUR REVIEW OF THIS, NOT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S TREATED FAIRLY.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE, BUT THE ROLES ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE BODY THAT APPOINTS YOU.
SO I WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SYSTEM AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS COMFORTABLE FOR YOU AS WELL, AND UNDERSTANDING DISTINCTION.
BUT I, I, I, AGAIN, IN THE, THE, THE, THE CITY LOCAL PROCEDURES, I THINK THEY CALL WHATEVER THEY ARE, IT SPELLS THAT OUT.
AND, AND IT DIDN'T, IT SEEMED LIKE A BALANCED, UH, COMPOSITION TO ME.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S THE BEST IT CAN HOPE FOR IS, IS, IS TO HAVE THAT BALANCE.
AND, AND, UH, SO YES, I THINK I CAN DO THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THE RULES.
I HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO THE ACTUAL APPLICATION.
UM, WHEN IT SAYS, HAVE YOU PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPOINTED A POSITION BY THE CITY OF SEDONA? BOTH ARE CHECKED, YES AND NO.
SO IS THIS LIKE, YOU GET THAT CLARIFIED, OOPS.
OPERATOR, EQUIPMENT ERROR,
THERE MIGHT BE A GLITCH WITH THE PDF TWO.
I'LL CHECK AND SEE IF MAYBE IT AUTOMATICALLY DOES BOTH.
THAT MIGHT BE OUR, SINCE THERE WAS NO LENGTH OF TERM, I WOULD, I WAS ASSUMING IT WAS A NO, BUT I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY THESE BOTH ARE CHECKED OFF.
I DO NOT RECALL EVER HAVING BEEN APPOINTED TO ANY POSITION IN THE CITY OF SEDONA.
AND THAT Y'ALL WOULDN'T KNOW, BUT
UM, I ALSO SAW THAT YOU DID THE CITIZENS ACADEMY IN 2014 AND 2015.
HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT? OH C ACADEMY 2014 POLICE ACADEMY.
CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY IN 2015.
UM, WELL I ENJOYED BOTH OF THEM.
SO, UH, WHEN, WHEN THAT WAS GOING ON, UH, I, I ENJOYED IT CUZ IT GAVE ME AN IDEA OF, I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY IN SOME WAY.
AND, AND, AND MY INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY HERE HAS BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT REALM MM-HMM.
SO, UH, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, BUT I GOT TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE WORKERS OF THE CITY ARE AND, UH, HOW TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER.
AND I, I SAW A LOT OF PARALLELS CUZ WE, WE DID THAT WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP OUSE IN FLORIDA.
AND, AND YEAH, THEY, THEY KIND OF
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PARALLELED THOSE THINGS.BUT, UH, UM, SO IT WAS GOOD TO GET THE INSIGHT.
AND THEN, UM, IN MY, MY MAJOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT NOW IS WITH AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE ARIZONA RANGERS.
AND WHEN I WORKED WITH THE, UH, AND, AND DOING THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY GAVE ME SOME INSIGHT THERE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'VE SEEN WITH THE RANGERS.
WITH STEVE IN THE VILLAGE AND MIKE IKE FROM THE ALL PLACE.
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THIS BOARD THAT INTERESTED YOU WHILE YOU, YOU CHOSE TO APPLY FOR THIS? I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU APPLIED FOR ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE CITY, BUT WHY DID THIS PIQUE YOUR INTEREST? I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE APPLIED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
I MAY HAVE, BUT, UH, BY MY TIME IN ARIZONA, RANGERS IS DRAWING TO A CLOSE.
UM, I'M, I'M GETTING TOO OLD TO BE RUNNING AROUND FROM THE STREETS OF ARIZONA WITH A GUN IN MY WAIST AND, AND YOU KNOW, UH, CUZ I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY PARTNER AND I'M NOT A VERY GOOD PARTNER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, SO I'M, I'M, I'M STEPPING BACK FROM ACTIVE RANGERS.
I'M, I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE STATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CURRENTLY.
AND THEN I'M THE COMPANY COMMAND OF THE VERDE VALLEY COMPANY.
AND AS I, UH, DRAW BACK FROM THAT, UM, I HAVE TO HAVE A REASON TO GET UP IN THE MORNING.
I I I I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA TRAVEL WITH YOUR WIFE
THERE'S, THERE'S, THAT'S WHY I'M SEMI-RETIRED, NOT FULLY RETIRED BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR IT.
WELL, LET ME MAKE THIS SUGGESTION TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA WORK OUT TODAY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER GROUPS IN THE CITY THAT YOU CAN VOLUNTEER FOR.
WE HAVE OUR OWN, UH, POLICE, UH, VOLUNTEERS, WHICH THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK INTO A LOT OF, UH, LONG TIMERS WITH US.
AND, UH, I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU WANTED, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU WANT WALK AROUND TOO MUCH OR GET OUT TOO MUCH VOLUNTEER AT, AT THE VISITOR CENTER, THERE'S A LOT OF HUMANE SOCIETY MEALS ON WHEELS.
I MUST GO DOWN A LONG LIST ALL MANNER THINGS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, KEEP AN OPEN EYE AND YOU CAN JOIN TWO OR THREE OF THEM.
I WAS, I WAS A BIT TAKEN BACK WHEN I WAS, WENT INTO SEMI-RETIREMENT CUZ I WENT UP TO THE MUSEUM LOCATED IN A DISTANT RELATIVE'S HOME AND THOUGHT OF BEING TO DOCENT OR SOMETHING UP THERE AND THEY JUST KIND OF SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WELL DON'T CALL US, WE'LL CALL YOU.
AND I LOOKED AWAY CUZ WILLIAM JORDAN IS A DISTANT RELATIVE.
OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PERFECT FIT.
BUT, SO WELL MAYBE THEY'LL BE MORE.
WE ALSO HAVE, I MEAN THE POLICE VOLUNTEERS WHO DO HELP US AND THEY DO FINGERPRINTING, THEY ALL AROUND CAMPUS AND THEY'RE UPTOWN RANGERS.
AND, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE A LOT IN COMMON WITH 'EM AS WELL.
SO MAYBE THERE'S MORE THAN JUST ONE OR TWO OR THREE THAT YOU WANNA GET INVOLVED WITH.
WE ALL HAVE TO HAVE OUR PLATES FULL ALL THE TIME.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OH NO, I DON'T.
I I I, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH, UH, EXCUSE ME.
THANK YOU FOR, BY THE WAY, FOR ACCOMMODATING ME AND MY WIFE'S TRAVELS
SO, UH, AND WE HAD TO COME BACK FROM THE EAST COAST, SO WE WEREN'T SURE THAT'S WHY I ASKED OR NOT BUNDY, BUT YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LATER.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY QUESTIONS.
I MEAN MY RESEARCH IS BETWEEN THE INSIGHT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME AND, AND MY RESEARCH
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THAT I THINK I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST.
PLEASURE MEET ALL THREE OF YOU.
RENEW THOSE ACQUAINTANCES AND UH, ALL THOSE THINGS.
LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.
I WILL UPDATE IT IF YOU MARK YES.
IT MARKS YES ON ALL OF 'EM IF YOU MARKED NO, IT PUTS NO ON ALL OF THEM, SO I'LL FIX IT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION, BUT OKAY, WELL YES, NO KINDA RIGHT.
THAT'S INTERESTING CAUSE IT DIDN'T CARRY THROUGH ON THE OTHER ONE.
WELL, WELL IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO SCREEN THE FIRST THOUGHT.
DID YOU WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? DID YOU GUYS WANNA MOVE FOR THAT OR YEAH, SPEAK IN OPEN IF YOU WANT TO.
WE'VE GOTTA GO BACK TO THE OTHER THREE THAT WE TALKED TO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE APPLICATIONS.
SO WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION AND IS THERE A MOTION? YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OF, UH, RECOMMENDING UM, THE APPOINTMENT OF LYNN NAS AS A MEMBER TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM LOCAL BOARD.
ALL NAME MOTION HERE IS UNANIMOUSLY.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WHEN YOU SAID IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SEND A LETTER TO OR YOUR CALL EACH ONE HOWEVER YOU DO IT, ENCOURAGE 'EM FOR OTHER POSITIONS? YEAH, I'LL DO THAT.
I MADE A NOTE TO SUGGEST THEY APPLY FOR OTHER VACANCIES.
UM, AND I SEND EVERYONE AN EMAIL MM-HMM.