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[1. Call to Order/Pledge of Allegiance/Moment of Silence/Roll Call]
UH, AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.I APOLOGIZE FOR, FOR THE DELAY.
AND, UH, THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
UH, PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC OF WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WILL YOU JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE? OKAY.
UH, MADAM, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU READ THE ROLE PLEASE? MAYOR JALO.
WE KNOW COUNSELOR KINSELLA IS THERE.
MESSAGING COUNSELOR WILLIAMSON, ARE YOU, CAN YOU HEAR US? ARE YOU MUTED? GOT IT NOW.
CAN YOU HEAR US? COUNSELOR WILLIAMSON AND COUNSELOR KINSELLA.
COUNCILOR KINSELLA FOR THOSE WHO, UH, CAN'T TELL ARE ON ZOOM.
[2. City’s Vision/Moment of Art]
ITEM TWO.DO WE HAVE A MOMENT? ART, OKAY.
IS TO BE A CITY THAT IS CONSTANTLY PRESERVATION.
ITS NATURAL SCENIC BUSINESS, PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT, AND CULTURAL HERITAGE.
SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE TECHNOLOGY, IT'S SMALL TOWN.
IT'S, WHY DON'T WE JUST CANCEL THE MOMENT, THE, UM, VISION STATEMENT.
PETE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE? UH, TO EVERYONE, UH, FROM MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE STEM COMMUNITY.
UM, WE HAVE A MOMENT OF ART AND WE HAVE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER GOING TO PRESENT.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT I AM NOT NANCY LATTANZI.
UH, NANCY IS ON, UH, SPRING BREAK AND ASKED ME TO INTRODUCE THE MOMENT OF ART OKAY.
UM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, MARCH'S WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, UM, AND NANCY HAS CHOSEN TO HONOR, LEGACY, AND PRACTICING ARTIST MARYANNE LEHE, WHO'S SITTING UP HERE NEXT TO, TO JOANNE COOK.
A LEGACY ARTIST IS ONE WHO IS SHOWN IN GALLERIES IN SEDONA FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
MARYANNE, ALONG WITH OTHERS, WAS NAMED A SEDONA LEGACY ARTIST.
IN CELEBRATION OF THE SEDONA ARTS CENTER'S 60TH ANNIVERSARY IN 2017, MARYANNE TAUGHT TAUGHT ART IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR OVER 18 YEARS IN THE MULTICULTURAL CHICAGO AREA WHERE SHE DID HER GRADUATE WORK IN CERAMICS AT THE CHICAGO SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE, WHILE IN ILLINOIS, MARYANNE WAS A STATE OF ILLINOIS ARTISAN.
MARYANNE HAS LIVED IN SEDONA SINCE 1997.
SHE HAS WON NUMEROUS AWARDS FOR HER ARTWORK, AS WELL AS HAVING TAUGHT WORKSHOPS
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AT THE SEDONA ART CENTER.CURRENTLY, MARYANNE'S WORK IS REPRESENTED BY THE SEDONA ART CENTER.
PREVIOUSLY WAS REPRESENTED BY PEGGY LANNING'S TURQUOISE TORTOISE GALLERY IN SEDONA FOR 25 YEARS, AS WELL AS GALLERIES IN SANTA FE, NEW MEXICO.
ANCIENT MYTHS AND SYMBOLS ARE MARYANNE'S INSPIRATION.
AS A CLAY ARTIST, MARYANNE CELEBRATES SYMBOLS COMBINING HUMAN AND ANIMAL MOTIFS.
THESE SYMBOLS SHOW THE EMERGENCE AND MYSTERY OF LIFE'S ENERGY.
HER WORK COMBINES ARTISTIC EXPERIENCE WITH A PROFOUND RESPECT FOR NATURE AND IMAGES FROM THE PAST.
CLAY COMING FROM THE EARTH PROVIDES HER WITH A NATURAL TACTILE CONNECTION WITH OUR WORLD, USING CLAY THAT CONTAINS A MICRO RICH SURFACE, SHE CAREFULLY DRAWS STORIES AND GLAZES ON FIRED CLAY.
THESE STORIES HAVE BEEN RESEARCHED AND INFLUENCED FROM THE RICH CULTURAL TRADITIONS AND RUINS OF THE SOUTHWEST.
EACH PIECE IS PAINTED WITH MANY COATS OF GLAZES, WHICH COME ALIVE IN BRILLIANT COLORS.
DURING THE SECOND FIRING PROCESS.
HER HAND-BUILT PIECES ECHO ANCIENT MOTIFS IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE MARYANNE'S, ALSO A PAINTER PAINTINGS AND ACRYLICS LEN COLORS, SIMILAR TO THE GLAZES THAT SHE USES ON HER CLAY PIECES.
VIBRANT, BOLD FLUID CONCEPTS, DIVINE, HER IMAGERY BASED ON NATURE AND ANIMAL SUBJECTS.
NANCY IS ALSO INVITED, UH, MARYANNE TO EXHIBIT HER WORK JANUARY THROUGH APRIL, 2024, WHICH IS THE NEXT OPENING, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT.
AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT MARIAN'S WORK, PLEASE VISIT MARYANNE LEAHY, M A R I A N N, LEAHY, L E A H Y FINE ART.COM.
AND SHE'S HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT HER PAINTINGS AND PAINTING ON PAINTING ON CLAY WORK.
SO PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME MARYANNE LAKEY TODAY.
I'M HONORED TO HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
THAT'S QUITE A, A STATEMENT RIGHT THERE.
I'M, I'M VERY PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE.
THAT WAS AT THE LEGACY SHOW AT SAC IN 2017, UM, WHICH I WAS HONORED TO BE CHOSEN AS A LEGACY ARTIST.
THIS WAS 2003 WHERE I WAS ONE OF THE ONES CHOSEN TO DO LINA'S ON PARADE.
AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING INTRODUCED AND GET MY PICTURE TAKEN WITH THEN GOVERNOR JANET NAPOLITAN.
THERE WERE SEDONA, MINA, AND TINY TRINA.
AND ALL THE AUCTION MONEY THAT WENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THESE JAVELINAS WENT FOR ARTS EDUCATION IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM OF SEDONA.
THIS IS, UH, FOUR TILE PLAQUE.
ALL THAT IMAGERY THERE IS DONE WITH GLAZES, WITH FINE, UM, PAINTBRUSHES.
I HEAR SOMEONE IN THE BACK ARCH, TYPO MOTIF THAT THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES USED FOR A LOT OF SYMBOLS FOR THEIR CREATION STORIES.
THEY'RE A POWERFUL, POWERFUL SYMBOL.
I LOVED WATCHING THEM IN THE SKY NEAR MY HOUSE.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF MANY THAT I'VE DONE.
THIS IS CALLED BELL ROCK TURTLE.
SO WE MOVE FROM THE SKY TO THE WATER.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S A LOT OF TURTLES IN ARIZONA AND A LOT OF TURTLES I'VE SEEN AT MONTEZUMA, WELL, OAK CREEK.
UM, BUT I LIKE AGAIN, TO PAINT IMAGERY.
IF YOU COULD THINK OF TURNING THAT TURTLE UPSIDE DOWN, IT BECOMES AN EAGLE.
THE RED HEAD WITH THE EYE IS AN EAGLE
THIS WAS BASED ON BEFORE WE HAD ALL THE RAIN AND SNOW.
UH, THIS IS CALLED RAIN DANCE.
AND I HAD BEEN PRIVILEGED TO SEE SOME WONDERFUL HOPI DANCES, THEIR DRY FARMERS, AND THEY DEPEND ON RAIN FOR THEIR CROPS.
SO THIS IS MY IMAGE TAKEN FROM ANCIENT, UH, ADOBE VILLAGES.
AND THE RAIN DANCE, YOU CAN SEE IS SORT OF A SPIRITUAL IMAGE WHERE THEY CALL UPON HER TO EVOKE THE CLOUDS TO SPILL THE RAIN.
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HANDBUILT WAS PART OF AN INTERNATIONAL TEAPOT TOURNAMENT THAT WAS HELD IN TEXAS IN 2017.AND I WAS PRIVILEGED TO HAVE TWO OF MY HAND-BUILT TEAPOTS CHOSEN FOR THAT TOURNAMENT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE LADDERS ON THERE.
THE LADDERS ARE THE FORM THAT GOES DOWN INTO THE KIVAS.
AND SO I'VE USED THAT TO MAKE THE HANDLE FOR THE TEAPOT AS WELL AS ON THE CREAMER.
AND THE SUGAR BOWL ACTUALLY IS IN THE SHAPE OF THE HORNO WHERE THEY BAKE BREAD.
RED DEER, STARRY NIGHT DEER COME TO MY YARD ALL THE TIME.
AND, UH, I LIKE TO LOOK AT THE STARS.
SO RED DEER STARRY NIGHT IS ANOTHER MOTIF OF MY ANIMAL IMAGERY.
ANYTIME YOU DRIVE DOWN TO PHOENIX AND YOU'RE COMING BACK AT SUNSET AT BUMBLEBEE, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE THIS WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL SUN ON THE GIANT SAGUARO.
SO THIS IS, UH, SAGUARO SUNSET PAINTED IN ACRYLICS, AND IT'S A LARGE PAINTING, 30 BY 30 AGAVE RHYTHM.
I SEE RHYTHM IN CERTAIN CACTUSES WHERE I THINK I HEAR THE BLUES PLAIN.
AND I KIND OF THINK THAT THERE'S A MAGICAL QUALITY TO THE WAY THE CACTUS MOVES.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED AGAVE RHYTHM, WHO HASN'T GONE TO FLAGSTAFF AND HIKED IN THE COLORFUL ASPENS IN THE FALL.
MY GRANDMOTHER IMMIGRATED FROM LITHUANIA AND SHE TALKED ABOUT BIRDS TREES BY THE BALTIC AND THAT THEY HAD EYES.
AND SO WALKING AROUND THE ASPENS, I SEE EYES FOLLOWING ME EVERYWHERE,
WELL, IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF RANCHES DOWN NEAR TU GUT AND NEAR DE DEAD, EXCUSE ME, DEAD HORSE.
AND ONE TIME I HAPPENED TO HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE AND HERE WAS A RAVEN ON THE BACK OF ONE OF THE HORSES.
SO THAT WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR THAT PAINTING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY.
[3. Consent Items – Approve]
WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA IS AVAILABLE FOR IF ANY COUNSELORS, STAFF, OR THE PUBLIC WISH TO, UH, PULL ANY ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.
SO, UH, CAN I, SEEING NONE, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE VICE MAYOR? I MOVE TO ACCEPT CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH D SECOND.
ALL, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND I'VE FROM BOTH, HOW'S THAT WORKING, JOANNE? OKAY, SO THAT'S, ANY, ANY, UH, AGAINST, OKAY, UNANIMOUS IN FAVOR.
SO APPOINTMENTS WE MOVE ON TO, UH, WE HAVE NONE.
[5. Summary of Current Events by Mayor/Councilors/City Manager]
SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS.UH, I, BEFORE WE START WITH ANY, ANYTHING FROM US ON THE DAIS, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE LEAVING US IN OUR GROUP.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FAREWELL TO CHERISE FRIGHT, WHO IS MOVING OUT OF THE TOWN, OUT OF THE VERDE VALLEY.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN SHE FIRST STARTED WITH US, AND SHE'S SUCH A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND JUST A PLEASURE TO BE WITH.
I CERTAINLY COULD TELL YOU THAT I'M REALLY, REALLY GOING TO MISS YOU, CHERISE, AND I WISH YOU WELL.
UH, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT I'M NOT GONNA PUT IT OUT OVER THE, THE, THE, UH, THE MICROPHONE.
BUT, UH, I WILL TRULY, TRULY MISS YOU.
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UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO.I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST CHERRIES.
I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE HAPPY IN YOUR NEW SITUATION, RIGHT? SO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU CUZ YOU'VE TAKEN SUCH PAINS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AS COMFORTABLE AS WE CAN BE ON THE DAY, SO THAT WE CAN BE AS PRODUCTIVE AS WE CAN BE.
AND I WANT TO REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I WILL MISS, UM, ALL OF YOU GUYS AS WELL.
AND YOU ARE MAKING IT TOUGH FOR ME NOT TO CRY.
I TOLD YOU I WASN'T GOING TO, BUT I MIGHT.
UM, THANK YOU JUST FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ME.
I'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO GROW AS A PROFESSIONAL HERE IN SEDONA, AND I AM ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR, FOR ALL OF YOU.
WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU, ALL OF US.
SO, UH, UH, PETE, I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD FOR CURRENT EVENTS.
I SPOKE AT A TURN BEFORE MAYOR.
AND SO NOW IS THE TIME WHERE I'D LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE HAPPY PIE DAY
PATRICK'S DAY PARADE FOR EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO COME OUT AND JOIN US AT 10:30 AM AND, UH, EVERYTHING'S ON OUR WEBSITE IN TERMS OF THE PARADE ROUTE, BUT IT'S DOWN JORDAN ROAD.
ALSO THE SEDONA STUMBLE 5K 10 K WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY, APRIL 1ST.
A POSSE GROUNDS PARK AND REGISTRATION IS OPEN NOW THROUGH MARCH 31ST.
CELEBRATION OF SPRING WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY, APRIL 8TH FROM 9:00 AM TO 1:00 PM FEATURING CARNIVAL RIDES, A PETTING ZOO PONY RIDES VENDORS, FOOD VENDORS, AND THE FAMOUS EGG HUNT FOR 12 YEARS.
AND UNDER, WE ALSO HAVE THE B E S T SPORTS FOR KIDS, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
THE SPRING SESSION HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED TO START MARCH 25TH TO ALLOW FOR MORE REGISTRATIONS.
IT'S $128 PER REGISTRANT PER SPORT.
UH, SESSION STORY TIME IN THE PARK IS WEDNESDAYS AT 10:00 AM AT SUNSET PARK, GEARED TOWARDS, UH, AGES FOUR TO EIGHT, BUT EVERYBODY IS WELCOME.
AND FINALLY, WE HAVE, UM, YAPPY HOUR THURSDAYS NINE TO 10, AN OPEN GYM TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM AT WEST SEDONA SCHOOL, GYM, AND TENNIS LESSONS OFFERED ON MONDAYS OR WEDNESDAYS AT POSSE GROUNDS.
ANYBODY, MELISSA, UH, JESSICA OR, UH, KATHY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO.
[6. Public Forum]
MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC FORUM.UH, WE HAVE, UH, JOHN MARTINEZ, STEP UP TO THE MIC.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
DON'T FORGET TO TELL US WHERE YOU YEAH.
WHERE YOU LIVE, WHERE, WHERE YOU RESIDE, AND YOUR NAME
I JUST DON'T FORGET TO SAY YOUR NAME.
I KNOW IT'S ALL NEW TO YOU, BUT
THANK YOU VICE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
MY NAME IS JOHN MARTINEZ AND I STILL LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA.
AND THE REASON I'M COMING UP HERE IS THAT LATER ON WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE A, UH, THANK YOU AND PROCLAMATION ALL AROUND THE SUBJECT OF WELCOME HOME, VIETNAM, VETERANS DAY, WHAT I'VE PASSED OUT TO ALL OF YOU.
AND I'M GOING TO PUT THIS IN THE BACK FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO GET AND WHAT IT IS THAT THE LAST WEEK OF THIS MONTH, STRETCHING INTO THE FIRST AND THE SECOND IS GOING TO BE A CELEBRATION WORTH OF A WEEK ON IN CAMP VERDE AT THE FORT VERDE PARK.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, AND I'M GONNA MENTION THIS REAL QUICK WITH THE START OF ZEEK, THAT HE IN THE VERDE VALLEY STARTED THIS WHOLE THING.
AND NOW IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE THE BEGINNING.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR LEAST FOR THE VERDE VALLEY, THE FINAL WELCOME HOME, VIETNAM VETERANS DAY THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE IN THE VALLEY.
IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS SINCE THE END OF THE VIETNAM WAR.
AND WE ARE GOING TO, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATE ALL THE VETERANS THAT DID NOT GET WELCOMED HOME BACK THEN, AS THOSE OF US THAT ARE OLD ENOUGH.
REMEMBER THAT WHAT IS GONNA BE HAPPENING DURING THAT WEEK, AND THERE'S GONNA BE A SEVERAL
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MAJOR, UH, OCCASIONS OR, UH, THINGS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.AND IT'S GONNA START ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29TH WITH A PINING CEREMONY.
SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, I GOT ALL THIS STUFF BACK HERE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T SEE IT VERY WELL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS PIN THAT WILL BE HANDED IT OUT TO ALL THE VETERANS.
THERE ARE OTHER PINS THAT WILL BE HANDED OUT TO VETERANS THAT'S PART OF THIS, UH, PIN CEREMONY WITH, UH, RELATIVES AND OTHERS.
AND THEN ON, UM, FRIDAY, IT'S GONNA BE A, A REALLY UNIQUE THING THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE IN THE VERDE VALLEY.
WE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE INVITING NATIVE AMERICAN VIETNAM VETS THAT ARE GONNA BE HERE BASICALLY THE ENTIRE DAY OF FRIDAY, THE 31ST WILL BE TO HONOR THEM.
THAT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 300 OF PROUD NATIVE AMERICANS THAT ARE THERE THAT WE FINALLY WILL BE HONORING THEM.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY IT'S GOING TO BE THE FAMOUS, UH, HONOR RIDE THAT'S GONNA START AT THE ELKS LODGE HERE IN SEDONA.
IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A 10 O'CLOCK, I THINK IT'S KICK STANDS UP, I THINK WHAT THEY CALL THAT.
AND IT'S GONNA DRIVE FROM SEDONA TO COTTONWOOD, I BELIEVE THE CLARKDALE BACK TO, UM, COTTONWOOD, AND THEN ONTO, UH, FORK AND CAMP VERDE.
SO I'M WARNING EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY IN TV LAND, CUZ THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THE F 35 S.
THIS ONE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF MOTORCYCLES.
SO PLEASE PLAN TO ATTEND THIS EVENT FOR MARCH THE 29TH TO APRIL THE SECOND.
CLOSE
UH, SEEING, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CARDS? I BELIEVE NOT.
UH, SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND MOVE TO PROCLAMATIONS
[7. Proclamations, Recognitions, & Awards]
RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS.THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS.
SO, UH, WE HAVE THE VIETNAM VETERANS, UH, JOHN SAID VIETNAM VETERANS WAR DAY.
WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ AND, UM, THIS IS REALLY COOL.
SO, UH, PROCLAMATION NATIONAL, UH, VIETNAM VETERANS, UH, DAY MARCH 29TH, 2023, WHEREAS THE VIETNAM VETERAN WAR WAS FOUGHT IN THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH VIETNAM FROM 1961 TO 1975, AND INVOLVED NORTH VIETNAMESE REGULAR FORCES AND VIET CON GORILLA FORCES IN ARMED CONFLICT WITH THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES IN THE ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM.
AND WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES BECAME INVOLVED IN VIETNAM BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT WANTED TO PROVIDE DIRECT MILITARY SUPPORT TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SOUTH VIETNAM TO DEFEND ITSELF AGAINST A GROWING COMMUNIST THREAT FROM NORTH VIETNAM.
AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES BEGAN SERVING IN AN ADVISORY ROLE TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH VIETNAM IN 1961.
AND WHEREAS AS A RESULT OF THE GULF OF TONKIN INCIDENTS ON AUGUST 2ND AND FOURTH, 1963, CONGRESS OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED THE GULF OF TONKIN RESOLUTION PUBLIC LAW, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC LAW 88 DASH 4 0 8 ON AUGUST 7TH, 1964, WHICH PROVIDES THE AUTHORITY TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO PROSECUTE THE WAR AGAINST NORTH VIETNAM.
AND WHEREAS IN 1965, UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES, GROUND COMBAT UNITS ARRIVED IN VIETNAM.
AND BY THE END OF 1965, THERE WERE 80,000 UNITED STATES TROOPS IN VIETNAM.
AND BY 1969, A PEAK OF APPROXIMATELY, UH, 543,000 TROOPS WERE REACHED.
AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 85,000 MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES LOST THEIR LIVES IN VIETNAM.
AND MORE THAN 300,000 MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES WERE WOUNDED.
AND IN 1982, THE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL WAS DEDICATED IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA TO COMMEMORATE, UH, COMMEMORATE, I'M SORRY, THOSE MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WHO DIED OR WERE DECLARED MISSING IN ACTION IN VIETNAM.
AND WHEREAS THE VIETNAM CONFLICT WAS AN EXTREMELY DIVISIVE ISSUE AMONG THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES THAT CAUSED A GENERATION OF VIETNAM OF, UM, SORRY, GENERATION OF VETERANS TO WAIT TOO LONG FOR THE UNITED STATES PUBLIC TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND HONOR THE
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EFFORTS AND SERVICES OF SUCH VETERANS.AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WHO SERVED BRAVELY FAITHFULLY OF, UH, OF THE UNITED STATES DURING THE VIETNAM VETERAN WAR, UH, WERE OFTEN WRONGLY CRITICIZED AND PUBLICLY PUB POLICY DECISIONS MADE BY FOUR PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEREAS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NATIONAL VIETNAM WAR VETERANS DAY WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO HONOR THOSE MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WHO SERVED IN SOUTH VIETNAM AND THROUGHOUT SOUTHEAST ASIA DURING THE VIETNAM VETERANS WAR.
NOW, THEREFORE, I SCOTT JALO, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA ON BEHALF OF THE SEDONA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 29TH, 2023 AS NATIONAL VIETNAM WAR VETERANS DAY IN THE CITY OF SEDONA ISSUED THIS 14TH DAY OF MARCH, 2023.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE ED GUY AND SHEILA, YOU WANNA COME UP AND RECEIVE THIS.
HE'S GETTING A PICTURE OF YOU GUYS HERE.
WAIT IN THERE IN FRONT OF THE, YEAH, WHATEVER HAND, MIKE, WAIT.
I LIVE IN SEDONA JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING KOSHER
IN NOVEMBER OF 2011, SITTING AT THE, UH, VETERAN'S DAY EVENT IN SEDONA, TIM MESTER, WHO AT THAT TIME WAS THE CITY MANAGER, TURNED TO ME AND HE SAID, WOULD YOU CONSIDER DOING A WELCOME HOME VIETNAM VETERANS DAY? HE HAD STARTED ONE IN BULLHEAD CITY.
AND THEN I DIDN'T, WE, NEITHER ONE OF US HEARD ANYTHING UNTIL JANUARY OF 2012.
AND SO IN ABOUT 30 DAYS, MORE LIKE 45, WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THE FIRST WELCOME HOME, VIETNAM VETERANS DAY HERE IN SEDONA.
AND THEN IN 2016 FOR, WE BROUGHT A REPLICA OF THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL, WHICH WAS UP AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK.
SO NOW WE PASSED IT ON TO SHEILA AND CAMP VERDE, BECAUSE WE CALLED IT A VERDE VALLEY EVENT.
AND SO SHEILA CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THANK YOU, ED MAYOR AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, I'M SHEILA, I'M THE PARK MANAGER AT FORT VERDE STATE HISTORIC PARK.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, KNOWING ED, UM, HAS BEEN A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OF THE EVENTS I'VE DONE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE THAT HAVE BEEN MORE HONORABLE THAN BEING ABLE TO PAY BACK AND GIVE HONOR AND RESPECT TO OUR VETERANS THAT SERVED IN VIETNAM.
UM, THIS YEAR, THE WALL, IT'S THE FIRST TIME COMING TO CAMP VERDE AND HE HAS RAISED THE BAR FOR US BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST TIME THAT IT'S COMING THROUGH.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING, UM, JOHN MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE WALL COMING.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WHEN WE MET WITH THE YAVAPAI APACHE NATION.
WE SAID, THE WALL'S GOING TO BE HERE FOR FIVE DAYS.
HOW WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO HAVE A DAY TO RECOGNIZE NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS? AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME NATIONWIDE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
SO, UM, THERE'S FOLKS OUTTA WASHINGTON DC THAT WILL BE COMING
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AND, UM, IT IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.SO, UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO IS JUST MAKE SURE TO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THANKING OUR VETERANS.
THAT'S THE FOCUS OF IT, THE SACRIFICES THAT WERE MADE BY VIETNAM VETERANS AND ALL VETERANS ALIKE.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, IN ADDITION TO THE VIETNAM TRAVELING WALL, WILL BE THE COST OF FREEDOM TRIBUTE, WHICH IS A 36 PANEL, A-FRAME, UH, 36 A-FRAMES THAT HAVE, UM, ALL OF THE WAR PERIODS.
AND IT HAS ALL OF THE LIST OF THE CASUALTIES OF EVERYBODY WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN THE DIFFERENT WAR PERIODS, THE GULF, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, NINE 11.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING IN ADDITION THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING WITH THE TRIBE, UH, WITH THE APACHE NATION COMING ON FRIDAY, THE 31ST, UM, ALL 22 TRIBES HAVE BEEN INVITED, AND JERRY GERAL MARTIN HAS BEEN TAKING THE LEAD ON IT.
UM, HE, I'M SURE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TONIGHT IF HE COULD HAVE, HE'S DOING A PRESENTATION AT THE SEDONA LIBRARY AT 7:00 PM SO IF YOU WANNA COME OVER AND SEE HIM AFTER THIS, HIS PRESENTATION WILL BE GOING ON THERE.
AND SO ALL OF THESE GUYS, UM, THE KUDOS GOES TO ALL OF THEM FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT THEY'VE MADE.
AND SO WE HOPE THAT, UH, YOU GUYS CAN COME OUT IN SEDONA.
YOU GUYS WERE THE FIRST ONES TO, TO GO AHEAD AND TO, UM, TO, TO PAVE THE, SET THE PATH OR PAVE THE PATH, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, BUT WE JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND, AND AGAIN, UM, KUDOS TO ED FOR, UH, AND EVERYBODY FOR HAVING THE, THE FORESIGHT OF PLANNING THIS EVENT.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A TRADITION THAT WE PLAN TO CONTINUE WITH OUR HISTORY OF THE SOLDIER MILITARY TIMELINE BECAUSE, WE'LL, WE'LL NEVER FORGET, WE ALWAYS OWN OUR VETERANS.
AND, UH, ONE THING I WISH I'D DONE, ED, WHEN YOU INVITED ME TO RIDE IN THE PARADE, UH, TO ANNOUNCE THE FIRST EVENT, THAT'S OUR PARADE, THAT'S GONNA BE SATURDAY.
AND I SAID, NO, THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE,
SO, UM, I, I DO WANNA SHARE WITH YOU ALSO THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING FOR ALL THE VETERANS IN THE ROOM IS WE HAVE THE WONDERFUL VETERANS HISTORY PROJECT THAT GOES ON IN THE LIBRARY, AND ED HAD A A HAND IN THAT TOO.
AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, UH, COFFEE WITH A VET, UM, UH, ONE FRIDAY A MONTH.
UH, AND I DO WANNA SHARE ONE THING ABOUT WELCOME HOME.
SO THE VIETNAM VETERANS GENERALLY DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WE SAID QUOTE, NOBODY WELCOMED US HOME, SO WE WELCOMED EACH OTHER.
DO YOU WANNA HOLD ON TO THEM UNTIL AFTER JUST TO HAVE 'EM WITH YOU OR, OKAY, JACK WANTS TO, YEAH, YOU WANT TAKE? SURE.
SO EVERYBODY HEARD HOW MUCH ED WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE VIETNAM VETERANS WALL, BUT MANY HERE THAT AREN'T VIETNAM VETERANS, OR ANY VETERAN MAY NOT BE AWARE OF SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS ED HAS DONE DURING THE PAST 10 YEARS.
10 YEARS AGO, UH, THEN CITY MANAGER TIM ERNSTER SAW A NEED FOR OUR CITY WAS SOMEONE TO ASSIST VETERANS WITH SOME OF THEIR SERIOUS ISSUES.
TIM SOUGHT THE HELP OF DOCTOR EDWARD ESCU BECAUSE WHO BETTER TO HELP VETERANS THAN A DISABLED VETERAN HIMSELF.
FOR 10 YEARS, ED UNSELFISHLY VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME AT CITY HALL ASSISTING VETERANS WITH DISABILITY ISSUES FROM FILLING OUT COMPLICATED MEDICAL FORMS TO FILING FOR DISABILITY BENEFITS RELATED TO AGENT ORANGE.
ED ASSISTED WITH FILING, UH, SURVIVOR BENEFITS FOR WIDOWS AND WIDOWERS OF DECEASED VETERANS.
ED ASSISTED VICTIMS OF MILITARY SEXUAL TRAUMA SUFFERING FROM PTS D I NEVER KNEW THAT UNTIL RECENTLY WHEN WE TALKED, WHILE ED HAD AN OFFICE HERE AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT JUST ACROSS THE COURTYARD, HE DEDICATED HIS SERVICE.
UH, HIS DEDICATED SERVICE WASN'T JUST TO VETERANS IN SEDONA, BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE VERDE VALLEY AND EVEN
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TO VETERANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.TODAY, I WANTED PERSONALLY TO RECOGNIZE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE ED FOR HIS 10 YEARS OF SERVICE IN ASSISTING OVER 2000 VETERANS HERE AT CITY HALL.
AND WE HAVE A LITTLE, A LITTLE MOMENTUM FOR ED, AND I JUST WANT TO, I'LL JUST ON THE MICROPHONE, SAY, DR.
ED EDWARD ESCU, PHD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 10, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 10 YEARS OF UNSELFISH DEDICATION TO THE VETERANS OF OUR CITY.
YOU'RE TAKING IT BACK? NO, NO.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, AND FOR THOSE WHO I, I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN TO MENTION, ED HAS LEFT A POSITION HE'S GOING TO FINALLY RETIRE, RETIRE AND RETIRE AGAIN.
AND, UH, HE'LL BE LEAVING THE CITY.
AND WHEN I HEARD THAT HE WAS LEAVING US, I FELT IT WAS ONLY APPROPRIATE TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR THE WAY HE RECOGNIZED OUR VETERANS IN OUR CITY AND THE VERDE VALLEY.
THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYONE IN HERE FOR THE KIND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, I HAVE WORKED WITH, WITH WIDOWS WHO DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR BENEFITS BECAUSE THEIR HUSBAND, VETERAN HUSBAND HAD DIED AS A RESULT OF THE WAR.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BEING SHOT OR STABBED.
ALL OF US WHO CAME BACK ARE NOW FACING, UM, AS I USED TO SAY, I'M JUST WAITING, UH, BECAUSE OF AGENT ORANGE.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT AGENT ORANGE IS, IT'S ROUNDUP FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT USE ROUNDUP, BUT ACTUALLY THE WORST CHEMICAL IN IT WAS DIOXIN.
AND NOW THERE ARE 17, UH, PRESUMED ILLNESSES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH EXPOSURE TO DIOXIN THAT, UH, VIETNAM VETERANS ARE DYING FROM EVERY DAY.
SO HAVING THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE, ALL THESE PEOPLE, UM, OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, UH, IS, WAS INCREDIBLE.
AND I, I'LL TELL YOU ONE STORY, WELL, TWO STORIES.
THERE WERE ONE VETERAN THAT I WORKED WITH, UM, HE COULDN'T SPEAK.
HE, UH, HAD LOST PART OF HIS BRAIN.
HE WAS SHOT DOWN IN VIETNAM, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET HIM, IT'S MORE THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT HE WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT SERVICE CONNECTED.
UM, THE VA SAYS HE WAS, THE, THE SIGNATURE WAS R UM, R TWO, WHICH IS THE NEXT TO THE HIGHEST BENEFITS THAT A VETERAN CAN GET.
THE OTHER, UM, IS A VETERAN THAT I STARTED WORKING WITH.
OH, IT WAS PROBABLY TWO MONTHS BEFORE I LEFT, AND I FILLED OUT PAPERWORK AND I SENT AN EMAIL TO HIS, TO HIM TO SAY, OKAY, GOT THE, GOT THE PAPERWORK READY TO GO.
I HAD SEEN HIM ON WEDNESDAY, AND HE DIED ON SATURDAY.
SO WE NEVER KNOW THOSE OF US THAT SERVED OVER THERE.
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AND THERE ARE, AND IT'S NOT JUST VIETNAM VETERANS.I'VE WORKED WITH GULF WAR VETERANS, UM, AFGHAN VETERANS, AND A NUMBER OF YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAD EXPERIENCED MID, UH, MILITARY SEXUAL TRAUMA WHILE THEY WERE IN THE SERVICE.
AND WHEN YOU DEAL WITH A SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY, THEY ALL HAD PTSD, BUT YOU HAD TO CONVINCE THE VA THAT THAT WAS WHAT CAUSED IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE VA, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY THAT DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAPPENS.
I'M GREATLY HONORED TO HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND THE VETERANS IN IT, AND THE VETERANS THROUGHOUT ARIZONA, AND A FEW OF THEM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.
IT'S SOMETHING I WILL MISS, AND IT IS A JOY FOR ME TO KNOW THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOW MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BENEFITS THAT THEY WERE DUE TO THEIR SERVICE.
THAT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.
SO THAT WAS A REAL PLEASURE FOR ME TO, FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
[8.a. AB 2928 Discussion/presentation by Executive Director Judy Poe of the Sedona Public Library to provide an update to the City Council on library activities, accomplishments and general service provision to the community.]
ONWARD TO REGULAR BUSINESS AB 29 28, DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JUDY POE OF THE SEDONA PUBLIC LIBRARY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON LIBRARY ACTIVITIES, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND GENERAL SERVICE PROVISION TO THE COMMUNITY.THAT IS A TOUGH APP TO FOLLOW.
I KNOW, RIGHT? UM, IN ORDER FOR ME TO NOT TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY FOR TWO HOURS, WHICH I CAN EASILY DO, I HAVE WRITTEN MY COMMENTS DOWN.
SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR READING, BUT I'M SAVING YOU.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
KNOW ME, I KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO STATE MY NAME.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF SEDONA PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND I LIVE IN THE VILLAGE.
I AM HERE TO DO WHAT I DO BEST, WHICH IS TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY AND OUR COMMUNITY.
AND TO UNDERSTAND THE LIBRARY AND OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND OUR HISTORY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE LIBRARY.
WE ARE TRULY A PRODUCT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY BUILT THE LIBRARY.
IN 1958, A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS MANAGED THREE SHELVES OF BOOKS AND MAGAZINE IN A DONATED SPACE, UPTOWN, IF IT WAS EVEN CALLED UPTOWN IN 1958.
WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, A SPACE WAS LEASED FOR A VERY SMALL LIBRARY.
AND THEN IN 1964, SEDONA PUBLIC LIBRARY INCORPORATED AS A NONPROFIT.
WHY? BECAUSE THE LIBRARY COULDN'T BE A CITY OR A COUNTY LIBRARY AS 90% OF THE LIBRARIES IN THE COUNTRY ARE, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A CITY GOVERNMENT FOR US TO BE A PART OF.
IN 1966, WITH THE NEED FOR A NEW LIBRARY BUILDING LOOMING, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY BEGAN TO RAISE MONEY.
AND IN 1969, THE LIBRARY ON JORDAN BROAD WAS BUILT WITH ALL DONATED FUNDS.
OF COURSE, AS SEDONA GREW OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, SO DID THE LIBRARY, THANKS TO ETHEL LOWE AND A DONATION OF $326,000.
THE LAND IN WEST SEDONA WAS PURCHASED AS, AS SEDONA BECAME A CITY.
IN 1988, THE ALL VOLUNTEER LIBRARY BOARD BEGAN TO RAISE OVER 3 MILLION FROM THE SEDONA COMMUNITY TO BUILD OUR LIBRARY ON WHITE BEAR ROAD.
EVERY PENNY OF IT, THE LIBRARY OPENED IN 1994.
THE ICONIC LIBRARY BUILDING THAT WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE WAS BUILT ENTIRELY WITH DONATIONS.
THAT'S AN AMAZING TESTAMENT TO THE IMPORTANCE OF A LIBRARY IN ITS COMMUNITY.
THE STATUE OF SEDONA, SN SEDONAS FIRST PIECE OF PUBLIC ART WAS DEDICATED DURING THE OPENING CEREMONY.
AND AS EVERYONE WHO USES THE LIBRARY OR WHO TAKES A PINK JEEP TOUR OF SEDONA KNOWS SHE STILL STANDS PROUD TODAY.
IN 2000, WE JOINED THE YAVAPAI LIBRARY NETWORK.
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THIS INCREASED THE NUMBER OF MATERIALS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY BY 900%.AND WE ALSO STARTED OFFERING PUBLIC INTERNET.
20 YEARS IN THE FALL OF 2020, IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, WE BEGAN OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THIS REPORT, BUT IF YOU DON'T, I'D LOVE TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GREAT READ.
JOHN HAS COPIES THAT HE IS HANDING OUT.
UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WE INTERVIEWED 48 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SOME OF YOU WERE PART OF THAT, THAT INTERVIEW GROUP.
UM, THEY WERE ALL COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, PEOPLE WHO KNOW SEDONA AND HER RESIDENTS, WELL, PEOPLE WHO COULD SPEAK TO HER NEEDS AND HER WANTS AND THE TRIBULATIONS.
I BECAME DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY IN 2021 WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD GATHERED, POURED OVER, AND COMPARED TO NATIONAL TRENDS, WE KNEW WHAT WE HAD TO DO ON, OOPS, OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR, 2021 TO 2024 STRATEGIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD IN MAY OF 21.
THE PLAN IS INCLUDED IN THAT PUBLICATION.
THIS YEAR WE CELEBRATE THE 65TH BIRTHDAY OF THE LIBRARY AND THE 29TH BIRTHDAY OF OUR BUILDING WITH A NEW VISION TO BE THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE GATHER FRIENDSHIPS ARE FORGED, LIVES ARE ENRICHED, AND IDEAS ARE CULTIVATED.
WE ALSO SET OUT WITH A NEW MISSION STATEMENT TO CREATE COMMUNITY BY FOSTERING LIFELONG LEARNING AND BUILDING CONNECTIONS.
AND TO OPEN A DOOR TO THE WORLD BY PROVIDING EMPOWERING INFORMATION, INSPIRING IDEAS, AND ENGAGING EXPERIENCES.
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE HAVE MADE MAJOR STRIDES, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE ARE RIGHT ON TRACK TO ACCOMPLISH ALMOST ALL OF THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
WE HAVE DEEPENED OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE HAVE FORGED NEW ONES.
WE PARTNER WITH ALMOST EVERY OTHER NONPROFIT IN THE CITY AND BEYOND.
LAST YEAR, WE WORKED WITH MORE THAN 80 ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE ARIZONA SCIENCE CENTER IN PHOENIX AND THE SCIENCE VORTEX IN COTTONWOOD.
WE PROVIDE BOOKS FOR HOPE HOUSE, EXCUSE ME.
AND WE HELP THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OFFER PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE CURRENT STATE OF HEALTHCARE IN NORTHERN ARIZONA, WE HOST THE NORTHERN ARIZONA INTERFAITH COUNCIL LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, SEDONA SISTER CITIES ASSOCIATION, AND P FLAG MEETINGS, AND THE HUMAN LIBRARY.
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SEDONA INTERNATIONAL CITY OF PEACE, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
ONE OF OUR MOST ACTIVE AND IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIPS IS THE CITY ITSELF, WHO OVER THE PAST YEAR HELD MORE THAN 15 CITY MEETINGS AND EVENTS IN THE LIBRARY, TOTALING OVER 34 HOURS WITH OVER 360 PEOPLE.
THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, A DRY CREEK ROAD INFORMATION SESSION, SESSION, RESILIENCY 1 0 1, A DISCUSSION ON THE HARMONY NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABILITY AND TRANSIT COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, WE HOSTED THE FIRST COHORT OF FUERZA LOCALE, WHICH IS A BUSINESS INCUBATOR PROJECT FOR SPANISH SPEAKERS, WHICH ALONE INCLUDED 14 CLASSES AND EVENTS, TOTALING 47 HOURS.
WE'RE REALLY HONORED THAT THE TH THE THIRD COHORT HAS JUST BEGUN.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING OUR LIBRARY OF THINGS.
THIS INCLUDES CHROMEBOOKS AND HOTSPOTS FOR CHECKOUT, CHILDREN'S LEARNING KITS, UKULELES, TELESCOPES, MICROSCOPES, AND ROBOTICS KITS.
AND THESE ARE JUST THE BEGINNING.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON AN AGREEMENT WITH NASCA TO OFFER A, UM, TO HOUSE THEIR TOOL LIBRARY.
WE OFFER FREE NOTARY SERVICE, BOTH SPANISH AND ESL CLASSES, STORY TIMES AT THE LIBRARY, IN CLASSROOMS, AT LOCAL SCHOOLS, AND IN SUNSET PARK MUSIC AND DRUMMING PROGRAMS FOR KIDS.
A LITTLE FREE LIBRARY LIBRARIAN, SUNSET PARK, WITH MORE PLANNED AND NUMEROUS TEEN PROGRAMS. WE HOST STORYTELLING AROUND THE FIRE.
WE HAVE EDUCATIONAL KITS FOR FAMILIES TO CHECK OUT THAT INCLUDE BOOKS, GAMES, ACTIVITIES, AND LESSON PLANS ON TOPICS SUCH AS ASTRONOMY, PHYSICS, BIRD, WATCHING GEOLOGY AND MORE.
WE HAVE UPGRADED OUR INTERNET TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE FASTEST SPEED IN TOWN, ONE GIG THAT'S A HUNDRED TIMES FASTER THAN THE AVERAGE INTERNET SPEED IN THE UNITED STATES.
WE OPENED A FULL SERVICE LIBRARY IN THE VILLAGE OF BIG PARK, I MEAN THE VILLAGE AT THE BIG PARK COMMUNITY LIBRARY.
WE BUILT A COURTYARD BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY BOOKSTORE TO GIVE OUR COMMUNITY A PLACE TO CALL THEIR OWN, A PLACE TO GATHER, MEET, WORK, LUNCH, CELEBRATE, ATTEND A PROGRAM OR EVENT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, A PLACE TO MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS AND CONNECT WITH OTHERS, BOTH KNOWN AND UNKNOWN.
OVER 400 PEOPLE ATTENDED OUR GRAND OPENING EVENT, AND WE ARE PROUD TO
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NOTE THAT IN THE 2022 NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, THE LIBRARY'S APPROVAL RATING WAS 92%, UP FROM 89% IN 2018, AND 90% IN 2020.WE RANKED 37, 30 SECOND AMONG THE 317 COMMUNITIES WHERE A SIMILAR QUESTION WAS ASKED.
THAT MEANS THAT 90% OR 285 OF THOSE COMMUNITIES HAD LIBRARIES WITH LOWER, LOWER RATINGS THAN OUR LIBRARY.
AND OUT OF 36 LOCAL SERVICES, THE LIBRARY HAD THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF SERVICE RATING IN SEDONA.
92% OF RESIDENTS RATED US AS EXCELLENT OR GOOD.
OUR GOAL IS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
ARE YOU STILL WITH ME A LOT? ALONG WITH OUR MISSION, HERE ARE THE REASONS THAT WE DO WHAT WE DO.
NUMBER ONE, IMPROVED ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE.
OUR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS FOCUS ON LITERACY, STEAM WITH THE A, NOT STEM AND OTHER AREAS TO HELP PREPARE CHILDREN FOR ACADEMIC SUCCESS.
LIBRARIES PREPARE CHILDREN FOR SCHOOL, LIFELONG LEARNING, EDUCATIONAL AND ENTERTAINING LIBRARY PROGRAMS. FOSTER A LIFELONG LOVE OF LEARNING.
CONVENIENT ACCESS TO RESOURCES ENCOURAGES THE EXPLORATION OF GREATER KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS THROUGHOUT A LIFETIME AND IMPROVED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE WE PROMOTE SOCIAL CONNECTIONS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT BUILDS STRENGTH AND COHESION AMONG OUR RESIDENTS.
IN FISCAL YEAR 22, WE HAD OVER 107,000 LIBRARY VISITS.
THAT'S OVER 11 VISITS FOR EVERY RESIDENT IN SEDONA.
AND WE CIRCULATED OVER 185,000 ITEMS. WE MAKE AN AVERAGE OF A HUNDRED NEW LIBRARY CARDS EVERY MONTH.
WE HAD IN FISCAL YEAR 22, OVER 8,800 CARD HOLDERS, 7,500 OF WHICH LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
WE ARE ON TRACK TO INCREASE EVERY ONE OF THESE NUMBERS IN 2023.
AND WE DO ALL OF THIS WITH THE STAFF OF 20 OR 14 FTES.
SO NOW I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT OUR EXCITING PLANS.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT NEW PROGRAMS WE WILL OFFER IS COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS.
WE PLAN TO UNITE DISPARATE PEOPLE TO TALK AND TO LISTEN, ALL GEARED TOWARDS THE REDUCTION OF POLARIZATION WE ARE SEEING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS IN THE WORKS INCLUDE A DAY IN THE LIFE OF SEDONA, WHICH IS A YEAR LONG SERIES OF HANDS-ON LEARNING PROGRAMS, CULMINATING IN A MONTH LONG EXHIBITION BY AND FOR RESIDENTS CALLED I AM SEDONA.
WE WILL HAVE MUSIC IN THE STACKS, WE WILL HAVE TALKS WITH NATIONALLY KNOWN AND LOCAL AUTHORS, LOCAL BUSINESS SPOTLIGHTS OF WRITERS IN THE WEST SERIES, COOKING CLASSES, CODING CLASSES, AND POP-UP EVENTS IN AND OUT OF THE LIBRARY JUST TO NAME A FEW.
AND WHAT DO WE SEE ON THE HORIZON? WE KNOW THAT LIBRARIES ARE ECONOMIC DRIVERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
SO WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING A MAKER SPACE, A BUSINESS INCUBATOR, A CO-WORKING SPACE, VIRTUAL REALITY STATIONS, A RESUME AND CAREER SERVICE, AND A MOBILE LIBRARY OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO PROVIDING PASSPORT SERVICES, AND WE KNOW WE MUST IMPROVE OUR TECHNOLOGY, OUR CHECKOUT SYSTEMS, AND OUR ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEM.
FINALLY, OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, LIBRARY USE HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
LIBRARIES ARE NO LONGER A WAREHOUSE FOR BOOKS TO GUARANTEE OUR SUCCESS.
WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BUILDING.
WITH SO MUCH USE, IT IS A BIT WORN AND IT HAS AGED.
IT MUST BE UPDATED AND RENEWED WITH MORE MEETING ROOMS, BETTER LIGHTING, MORE SPACE, AND OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATION.
IF YOU KNOW ME, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BAD LIBRARIES, BUILD COLLECTIONS, GOOD LIBRARIES, BUILD SERVICES, GREAT LIBRARIES, BUILD COMMUNITY.
SEDONA PUBLIC LIBRARY IS TRULY SEDONAS COMMUNITY LIBRARY.
WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WE MEET, SEE, AND HELP EVERY SINGLE DAY.
WE REALLY DO HAVE THE BEST JOBS IN THE WORLD.
I MEAN, THAT WE GET TO SAY YES.
AUTHOR SIDNEY SHELDON ONCE SAID, LIBRARIES STORE THE ENERGY THAT FUELS THE IMAGINATION.
THEY OPEN UP WINDOWS TO THE WORLD AND INSPIRE US TO EXPLORE AND ACHIEVE AND CONTRIBUTE TO IMPROVING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AND THEN THE COUNSELOR CAN HAVE BOTH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
I'VE BEEN HEARING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SAY, I'LL MEET YOU ON, ON THE PATIO OF THE LIBRARY AS ASSIGNED TO GET A LITTLE BIT WARMER AND NOT RAINING OR SNOWING.
I'M HEARING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THAT ACROSS THE CITY.
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YEAH, WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE FROM THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOOD.WHAT, WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THAT SECTION OF LAND BUTTON, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE, UH, THE BOOKSTORE AND THE LIBRARY.
YOU SHOULD REALLY BE COMMENDED FOR IT.
WE DID THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF HAVING TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS.
WE CAN NOW KNOW THAT WE CAN KEEP THE LIBRARY OPEN ALMOST ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE CAN DO SERVICES OUTSIDE AS WELL AS INSIDE.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS SIDE? I WOULD JUST SAY I'M AT THE LIBRARY MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU KNOW, YOU SEE ME ALL THE TIME.
I DO
I, UH, ALL THE MEETINGS I ATTEND THERE, ALL THE BOOKS I RESERVE AND PICK UP THERE AND RETURN, IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST A FABULOUS RESOURCE.
AND SINCE YOU'VE COME ON BOARD, IT HAS REALLY EVEN EXCELLED AND GROWN.
AND YOUR IDEAS ARE TREMENDOUS AND YOU HAVE PROVEN YOU CAN EXECUTE ON THEM AS WELL.
I KNOW EVERY BOOK YOU CHECK OUT BECAUSE YOUR NAME COMES RIGHT BEFORE MINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
OH, I'M SORRY, KATHY, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, I JUST, I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH OUR LIBRARY.
IT TRULY IS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S MORE THAN A MEANING PLACE AND A RESOURCE.
IT'S REALLY SOME PLACE THAT GIVES SO MUCH, SO MANY PEOPLE.
AND I REALLY WANTED TO THANK, UH, MS. POE FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND HER VISION.
UH, I'VE REALLY SEEN SO MANY CHANGES SINCE YOU'VE COME ON BOARD, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUT I ALSO WANNA GIVE KUDOS TO YOUR STAFF.
I'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET TO KNOW SEVERAL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, UM, AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A WONDERFUL FIT THERE.
EVERYBODY THERE HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL.
THEY'RE HELPFUL ON PERSONAL LEVELS, THEY'RE HELPFUL ON, UH, MORE, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL LEVELS.
THEY'RE ALL KNOWLEDGEABLE, FRIENDLY, WARM.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TEAM THAT YOU LEAD.
AND JESSICA, I KNOW YOU'RE THERE AND YOU'RE ALSO THE, THE, UH, CITY OF LIAISON.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? UM, NO.
I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE LIBRARY AND THE LIBRARY BOARD, THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH THEY CONSIDER WHAT A LIBRARY MEANS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, AND WHAT THE SEDONA COMMUNITY REALLY NEEDS.
AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM AND TO SEEING WHAT JUDY DOES NEXT.
WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU AGAIN, JUDY.
[8.b. AB 2923 Discussion/possible action regarding a scope of services and Professional Services Agreement with Kimley-Horn and Associates in the amount of $148,000 for an Uptown Parking Alternatives and Site Analysis.]
IS ITEM B, AB 29 23.DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A SCOPE OF SERVICE AND PROFESSIONAL SER YEAH.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES IN THE AMOUNT OF $148,000 FOR AN UPTOWN PARKING ALTERNATIVES AND SITE ANALYSIS.
COUNCIL, DID YOU WANT THE LIGHTS DOWN? THERE'S ONLY A FEW SLIDES, SO IT'S UP TO YOU.
ARE WE WAITING FOR THE MAYOR? I ASSUME WE ARE.
WE ARE PRESENTING A CONTRACT FOR THE UPTOWN PARKING ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS AND SITE SELECTION.
THE CITY HAS QUITE A HISTORY WITH CONSIDERING PARKING IN THE UPTOWN AREA OVER NEARLY THE PAST 20 YEARS.
THE CITY HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE IN THIS AREA.
STARTING IN 2005, THE CITY COMPLETED THE SEDONA PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND YEARS LATER UPDATED THAT PLAN WITH SOME IMPROVEMENTS REGARDING PARKING FOR THE UPTOWN AREA.
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LATER, THE CITY COMPLETED THE UPTOWN CFA, WHICH AGAIN CONSIDERED PARKING FOR THAT AREA.THEN IN 2018, THE CITY COMPLETED THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, AND, UH, UH, A SECTION OF THAT PLAN IS DEVOTED TO LOOKING AT PARKING, UH, FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS FOR THE UPTOWN AREA.
THE NEXT YEAR, THE CITY COMPLETED THE UPTOWN SEDONA PARKING FACILITY NEEDS AND CITING ASSESSMENT THAT ESTABLISHED THE NEED FOR PARKING AND THE SITE OR LOCATION WHERE THE CITY LATER STARTED THE UPTOWN, UH, FOREST ROAD PARKING GARAGE, UM, DESIGN.
IN 2020, THE CITY COMPLETED THE SEDONA AREA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND THIS IS, UH, A PROGRAM THAT'S VERY, UM, IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ALONG WITH PARKING.
THOSE TWO PROGRAMS WORK WELL TOGETHER AND CONSIDERATION DENON.
ALSO, IN 2020, THE CITY, UM, UM, WENT THROUGH THE SITE ACQUISI ACQUISITION FOR THE PROPERTIES WHERE THE FOREST ROAD GARAGE WAS, UH, DETERMINED TO BE CITED.
SO THE CITY ACQUIRED THOSE PROPERTIES NEEDED FOR THAT SITE.
IN 21, THE MAJOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE WERE COMPLETED FOR THAT SITE TO ALLOW IT TO BE A GARAGE AT THAT LOCATION.
THEN, UH, JUST THIS PAST YEAR, THE GARAGE AT THIS SITE, THAT'S WHAT THIS PHOTO HERE IS SHOWING THE CURRENT SITE, UM, THAT PROJECT WAS PUT ON HOLD PENDING.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS A CONTR, UH, CONTRACT FOR REASSESSING THE, THE NEEDS FOR PARKING AS WELL AS THE SITE, IF PARKING IS NEEDED, WHERE THAT SITE WOULD BE, UH, FOR PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY HORNEN AND ASSOCIATES.
THE LEAD, UM, ON THAT EFFORT WILL BE, UH, ONE OF THEIR FOLKS THAT IS A PARKING, UM, EXPERT, AND, UH, SOMEONE THAT WE HAVEN'T WORKED WI WITH YET.
THAT'S, UH, A, A PERSON THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN JEREMIAH FROM ANOTHER OFFICE INTO, UH, THIS PROJECT TO LEAD THIS EFFORT.
THERE ARE NINE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THIS, UM, OF THIS STUDY, STARTING WITH FORMING A PARKING TASK FORCE WORK GROUP.
SO WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF FOLKS, UH, RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, STAFF, THE FOLKS THAT WILL LEAD THIS EFFORT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS ASSESSMENT.
UM, TASK TWO IS ACTUALLY ALREADY UNDERWAY.
THIS IS THE PARKING INVENTORY OCCUPANCY UPDATE.
THIS IS THE DATA GATHERING, AND WE WANTED TO START THAT EFFORT IN THE SPRINGTIME, UH, GATHERING THIS DATA DURING THE, THE PEAK, UM, SEASON OF THE YEAR.
THEN TASK THREE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FUTURE PARKING NEEDS AND DEMAND MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT,
AND, UH, IN THIS EFFORT, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FUTURE NEEDS ACCOUNTING FOR CHANGING TRANSPORTATION TRENDS, INCLUDING FACTORS LIKE TRANSIT.
TASK FOUR WILL HAVE OUR FIRST COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
SO WE'LL BE BRINGING OUR INFORMATION THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED AT THAT POINT TO COUNSEL FOR CONSIDERATION AND FEEDBACK.
NEXT, WE'LL HOLD A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE.
THEN WE WILL DEVELOP THE UPTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT AND TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.
SO THIS IS HOW WE'LL TAKE ALL THE DATA THAT WE'VE GATHER GATHERED UP TO THIS POINT, AND THEN, UH, DETERMINE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
ULTIMATELY, WE'LL DEVELOP THE UPTOWN PARKING ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, AND ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES VERY WELL COULD BE NOT NEEDING ADDITIONAL PARKING.
AND FINALLY, ONE OF THE WORK ITEMS IS DEVELOPING THE TRA UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND ULTIMATELY COMING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH OUR FINAL WORKSHOP TO, UH, SHARE OUR FINDINGS FOR THIS STUDY.
AND THEN THE LAST THING WE WANTED TO GO OVER WITH THIS, IT'S VERY SHORT AND SWEET, BUT THE LAST THING IS TALKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE STARTED THE DATA COLLECTION THAT'LL CONTINUE THROUGH THE SPRINGTIME.
WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THOSE TASKS THAT I MENTIONED.
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ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THIS STUDY BY THIS FALL.AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO PRESENT.
MAYOR ANDY, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BIO OF THE PROJECT MANAGER, JEREMIAH? UM, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE, BOB? WE DO NOT HAVE A BIO AND JEREMIAH SIMPSON SPECIFICALLY THAT I CAN CITE FOR YOU, UH, TONIGHT, COUNSELOR, BUT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION IF YOU DESIRE, JUDGE.
UH, I, I THINK HE, YOU HIGHLIGHTED HIM AS SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL.
SO I THOUGHT MAYBE FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT, YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS CREDENTIALS.
I WISH I HAD THAT WITH ME, AND I WISH MY COMPUTER WOULD CONNECT TO THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT WON'T.
UM, I CAN SAY THAT THAT WAS A BIG FACTOR IN, IN THE TEAM THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, WAS BRINGING HIM IN DUE TO HIS BACKGROUND AND HIS EXPERIENCE.
UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PULL FROM.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE, THE EXPERIENCE, BUT THE ACADEMIC BACKGROUND, UH, FOR THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT HIM IN.
SO, UH, I THINK HE HAS A PLANNING IN HIS PARKING PLANNING, PARKING PLANNING, UM, AND I KNOW HE IS WORKED ON A LOT OF PARKING PROJECTS THROUGH, THROUGH KIMLEY HORN.
SO HE HAS EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE AND, UM, I THINK HE'S, HE'S, UH, EXPERIENCED WITH INNOVATIVE, UM, AREAS OF PARKING DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES.
SO THAT WAS REALLY ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WERE AFTER WITH HIM.
WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT IF YOU WANT, I CAN KEEP SNEEZING.
JEREMIAH SIMPSON FROM DENVER, COLORADO WORKS FOR KIMLEY HORN.
HE'S ASSOCIATE PARKING MOBILITY CONSULTANT.
HE HELPS CLIENTS PLAN FOR IMPLEMENT EFFECTIVE AND RIGHT-SIZED PARKING AND MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICIES.
AREAS OF EXPERTISE INCLUDE PARKING NEEDS ANALYSIS, TRANSPORTATION, DEMAND, MOBILITY, MASTER PLANNING, SHARED USE, PARKING, CURB MANAGEMENT STATION, AREA PLANNING, PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE, FINANCIAL VISA, FEASIBILITY, PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION POLICY, DUE DILIGENCE, ZONING, SITE SELECTION, ACCESS AND REVENUE CONTROLS, PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEMS AND SIGNAGE AND WAYFINDING.
NOTABLE PROJECTS INCLUDE PARKING AND MOBILITY PLANS FOR COORS TECH NINTH STREET IN GOLDEN, COLORADO, UH, CITY OF OGDEN, UTAH, CITY OF ARVADA, COLORADO NATIONAL WESTERN CENTER IN DENVER, UC, HEALTH, ANSCHUTZ MEDICAL CAMPUS, UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, CITY OF DALLAS, MARKET STREET STATION.
AND WE COULD PROBABLY GO ON FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, 18 YEARS, PREVIOUS TO THE TWO YEARS AT KIMLEY HORN, HE WAS WITH WALKER CONSULTANTS, UM, UC, DAVIS, BA AND ENGLISH OF ALL THINGS.
VICE MAYOR, DID YOU FINISH YOUR, UH, NO, I, I JUST WANTED TO ALSO CLARIFY.
THANK YOU THOUGH, UH, THAT THE DATA COLLECTION, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
THE DATA COLLECTION IS NOT, IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR PEAK, IT'S ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE INTO THE SUMMER IN THE NON-PE SEASON AS WELL, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SOME OF THAT WILL BE ACQUIRED THROUGH, UH, DRONE VIDEO DATA COLLECTION, AS WELL AS BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UM, SITE OBSERVATION DIRECTLY.
I HAVE TO SPEAK LOUD FOR THAT WITH THE MASK.
UM, SO ONE OF THE POINTS, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS IM IMPORTANT, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS DONE IN A MUCH EARLIER STUDY, WAS, UH, FINDING OUT WHO ACTUALLY IS DOING THE PARKING.
WHETHER THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOPPING, ARE THEY TAKING JEEP TOURS? ARE THEY EMPLOYEES? UM, AND THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE ESPECIALLY AS WE GET INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS, IF THOSE ARE ALL EMPLOYEES AND NOT, NOT VISITORS DOING SOMETHING IN THE UPTOWN AREA, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO KNOW.
SO I, I KNOW IT'S NOT INCLUDED, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS STUDY, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE DECIDED NOT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE PARKING DURING THESE PERIODS.
WELL, ONE, ONE PART OF THIS EFFORT IS GONNA INCLUDE BRINGING IN, LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THIS TASK FORCE, AND PART OF THAT WILL BE BRINGING IN BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND SO I THINK THROUGH THAT EFFORT, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ASK, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOLKS ON OUR WORKFORCE
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OR OUR TASK FORCE.I MEAN, THAT CAN HEAD UP THAT EFFORT ON, ON THE BUSINESS END.
UM, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE CONSIDERING AS WE WORK THROUGH TASK THREE, YOU KNOW, DETERMINING WHAT OUR BEST STRATEGY IS FOR PUTTING THIS DATA TOGETHER AND MOVING FORWARD.
UM, WHILE MAYBE THAT'S NOT, MEANING COLLECTING THAT DATA AS WE'RE COLLECTING VOLUME AND COUNTS, IT COULD BE, UH, MAKING PROJECTIONS LATER ON, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OTHER, OTHER DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS.
SO IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY, MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND.
UM, DURING THE, THE TIME WE'RE COLLECTING THE DATA, WHICH IS NOW, AND THEN AGAIN IN THE SUMMER, RIGHT? UM, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO DO ANY, LIKE, AS YOU COME INTO PARK, SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? INSTEAD WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE BUSINESSES AND SAY, WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU NORMALLY SEE? HOW MANY OF YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE PARKING IN PUBLIC SPACES? HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET THAT, THAT DATA TO TRY AND DO THE, THIS SPRING? THIS IS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAD WHO WERE VISITING UPTOWN FOR WHATEVER, HOW MANY PEOPLE WORKED HERE VERSUS THE SUMMER.
HOW I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT LINK.
PART, PART OF THE DATA COLLECTION WILL INCLUDE ORIGIN, DESTINATION, AND SOME OF THAT WILL BE SEGMENTING OUT, ARE THESE FOLKS THAT ARE STAYING HERE LONG DURATION, ARE THEY PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYEES? SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO PULL EMPLOYEE DATA THROUGH THAT ORIGIN DESTINATION COMPONENT OF THE DATA COLLECTION.
IF YOU'RE TALKING MORE GRA MORE GRANULAR THAN THAT, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR THAT'LL BE ABLE TO GO.
I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT WE NEED, WE'LL GET THE DATA WE NEED, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA SE SEGMENT OUT EACH BUSINESS CATEGORY.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO A FINITE LEVEL, IF WE NEED THAT KIND OF DE DATA, IT WOULD BE REACHING OUT TO THE BUSINESSES AND ASKING THEM, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? HOW MANY ARE PARKING WHERE, AND TRYING TO RELY ON THEM TO HELP FILL IN THAT GAP.
SO, UM, WHEN WE'RE WE'RE, UM, TALKING ABOUT USAGE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, I AM ASSUMING THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, IS TURNOVER.
HOW QUICKLY DO THE CARS LEAVE AND ANOTHER CAR CAN TAKE THEIR PLACE? MM-HMM.
AND THE REASON WHY I ASK THE OTHER QUESTION IS IF I'M THERE TO TAKE A FOUR HOUR JEEP RIDE, OR MAYBE I'M PARKING THERE, I'M GONNA GO TO THE GRAND CANYON.
UM, THAT CAR'S GONNA STAY IN, IN PLACE A LOT LONGER THAN SAY SOMEONE WHO'S COMING THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A MEAL OR TO JUST SORT OF WANDER AROUND AND COME BACK.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF PART OF, ARE YOU GOING TO BE LOOKING AT LIKE, RATES OF TURNOVER OR NOT LOOKING AT THE RATES OF THE TURNOVER, JUST SORT OF GENERAL AT THIS HOUR, THIS IS HOW MANY CARS WERE PARKED THERE? WELL, IT'LL BE LOOKING AT VA VACANCY RATES, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE INVENTORY AND WHAT THAT IS OVER TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VACANCY RATE WILL CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC VEHICLES, I, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO.
ON, ON A HIGH LEVEL, LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
JUST ONE, ONE MORE THING, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT? YES, PLEASE.
UM, THROUGHOUT THIS CONVERSATION, WE KEEP SAYING ADDITIONAL PARKING.
ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD MANY TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR THAT I'VE EITHER PARTICIPATED IN OR LISTENED TO IS NOT ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING, BUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE CONSOLIDATING PARKING AND THEN REMOVING AN EQUAL NUMBER OF PARKING SLOTS.
AND THERE IS A, A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO IDEAS BETWEEN DO WE NEED MORE PARKING OR IS IT BETTER TO CONSOLIDATE OUR PARKING AND CLOSE DOWN ALL OF THE OTHER SITES THAT WE HAVE? I THINK THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT YOU CAUGHT AND ONE THAT'S LOST ON SOME FOLKS THAT'S VERY OBVIOUS IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEARING.
UM, BUT YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
SO, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THE RECORD, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE IDEA THAT THIS IS REPLACEMENT PARKING, NOT SIMPLY ADDITIONAL PARKING.
WELL, I THINK THESE STRATEGIES ARE PART OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT POINTS TO GET ACROSS THIS WORK TASK FORCE, UM, IN HOW WE CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD.
BUT THAT'S A STEP THAT WE STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH.
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UH, THIS QUESTION COULD BE ANDY OR KAREN TAG TEAMING HERE.
UM, COULD YOU JUST PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AROUND HOW DOES THIS PROJECT FIT INTO A OVERALL PLAN FOR PARKING FOR SEDONA MORE BROADLY? WAS SOMETHING THAT KAREN, WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.
CAN YOU KIND OF SHARE THAT WITH, WITH EVERYBODY HOW YOU SEE THIS KIND OF DOVETAILING FOR ANDY? SURE.
UM, COUNCILOR FOLTZ, WE, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENING.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE DOING THE UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
MANY OF THOSE ELEMENTS, BE IT TRANSIT, BE IT ENVIRONMENT, BE IT ECONOMY, ALL HAVE ELEMENTS WITHIN THEM THAT TIE BACK TO MAKING POLICY DECISIONS AROUND PARKING.
AS WE IMPLEMENT TRANSIT, WE'VE GRAPPLED WITH THINGS LIKE, DO WE PUT SMALLER LOTS IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THROUGH THE, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, OR DO WE TRY TO FOCUS ON THE ENTRY POINTS, UH, WHERE WE CAN CAPTURE VEHICLES, GET FOLKS OUT OF PERSONAL VEHICLES AND ONTO A, A ROBUST TRANSIT SYSTEM, A PARK ONCE KIND OF CONCEPT.
THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE AS WE PLAN FOR FUTURE.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE EFFORT RIGHT NOW HAPPENING WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT EFFORT IS GOING TO IDENTIFY THE NEED TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS ON A MORE HOLISTIC, BIG PICTURE VIEW.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE OUT OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS TO EMBARK UPON A MASTER PLANNING EFFORT FOR PARKING FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
UH, IT IS OUR COMMERCIAL CORE.
IT IS THE CENTRAL TOURISTS DISTRICT.
IT IS THE, THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED, I THINK, UM, AREA WE HAVE IN, IN INCLUDE, INCLUDING BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THEN OVERALL ACTIVITY.
SO THIS EFFORT WILL REVISIT WHAT HAD BEEN DONE PREVIOUSLY SPECIFIC TO UPTOWN AND VALIDATE, INVALIDATE, GIVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THAT AREA.
BUT IT WILL PLAY IN AND PLUG INTO A BIGGER PICTURE MASTER PLANNING EFFORT, I SUSPECT.
ANDY, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD IN ON THAT? I THINK THAT WAS PERFECT.
REMEMBER THAT? HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, CUZ I THINK WE CAN'T MAKE POLICY DECISIONS WITHOUT QUESTIONS DATA.
SO, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE, UH, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY MORE INSIGHT? WE TALKED ABOUT THE TASK FORCE, EIGHT PEOPLE IN, IN THE MEMO IT MENTIONS, UH, STA STAFF, BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES.
DO YOU HAVE THAT PARSED OUT IN ANY FURTHER DETAIL FOR FOLKS TO GRASP? NOT AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE START DIVING INTO.
BE A SOMEWHAT OF A BALANCED YEAH.
SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, ABOUT THE DATA COLLECTION.
WE'RE DOING IT AS OUR VICEMAN AND THE COUNSELORS HAVE ASKED AND GRATEFUL FOR ABOUT BOTH THE PEAK AND THE OFF PEAK SEASON.
THIS WOULD ALSO SEEM TO ME, IT'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CALIBRATE AND EVALUATE THE OTHER WAYS THAT WE COLLECT DATA ON TRAFFIC AND PARKING.
SO NOW WE'LL HAVE A REAL BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
WE DO OTHER, YOU DO OTHER MAGIC WITH OUR MODELS AND COUNTING WITH THE CELL PHONE DATA.
UH, THAT MIGHT GIVE US INSIGHT INTO THE AIR, THE TIMES OF THE AIR YEAR WHEN WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO COUNT DATA, BUT WE MIGHT ALSO SEE IT.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? DO YOU ANTICIPATE THINKING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S KIMBERLY HORN OR YOU AND YOUR STAFF? I DEFINITELY THINK THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY THAT, THAT WE'LL NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UM, IN COMBINING SOME OF THESE EFFORTS.
AND ONE, UH, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT EARLIER TODAY, HAD TO DO WITH TRAVEL TIME.
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UM, WHILE IT'S MY GUESS THAT WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES IN TOWN, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF OCCUPIED PARKING, BUT I COULDN'T SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.BUT GOING THROUGH THIS EFFORT, I THINK THAT'LL GIVE US A MUCH BETTER IDEA OF HOW THESE PEAK DEMANDS ALL PLAY TOGETHER.
AND, AND ANOTHER ONE THAT, UH, I'VE TALKED WITH ROBERT IN THE PAST ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES IS, IS THE, THE TRANSIT DEMAND, UH, DATA THAT WE HAVE AS WELL, KIND OF PUTTING THOSE ALL TOGETHER AND SEEING HOW THEY ALL INTERACT? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, YOU KNOW, MONEY WERE NO OBJECT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVEN MORE DATA COLLECTION WITH REGARDS TO THE PARKING DEMAND, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE USE THOSE DAYS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY BOOTS ON THE GROUND COUNTING THE PARKING WITH THE OTHER DATA THAT WE'VE GOT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT TO CALIBRATE OTHER TIMES OF THE YEAR.
THAT MIGHT BE SUPER INSIGHTFUL FOR US ALL, AND I WOULD SURE ENCOURAGE US TO TRY AND ACHIEVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT RESULT, UH, AND THOUGHT IN THE, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THE NEXT OBSERVATION I HAD IN THE CONTRACT WAS, UH, COUNCIL WORKSHOPS.
ONE IN TWO OR 60 TO 90 MINUTES.
I SUSPECT THAT, UH, THIS COUNCIL CAN ENGAGE WITH KIMLEY HORN IN A WORKSHOP AT A LONGER DURATION THAN THAT, AND WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
AND, UH, THAT'S MY QUESTIONS, MAYOR.
MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED ALREADY FOR DAY OR SO.
I DON'T WANNA DWELL ON IT, BUT I DO HAVE TWO CARDS.
I DON'T WANNA MISS, UH, UH, KATHY? YES.
UM, YEAH, I, A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED AND, UH, AND I THINK KAREN GAVE A REALLY GOOD DESCRIPTION.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I, I DO WANT TO REAFFIRM, UH, GET REAFFIRMED BECAUSE THERE WAS A VERY GOOD DESCRIPTION.
THE, THE PACKET, THE LETTER FROM KIMLEY HORN THAT HAD THE TASKS LAID OUT, I THINK REALLY GAVE US A VERY GOOD, UH, DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
SO I JUST WANT TO, TO REAFFIRM AGAIN THAT THIS, THIS PROJECT, THIS CONTRACT IS FOR SERVICES THAT WOULD REANALYZE IT WOULDN'T REALLY, WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT REAFFIRMING CONCLUSIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY REACHED.
IT'S REALLY GATHERING INFORMATION INDEPENDENT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THOSE CAN BE REEVALUATED.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? UM, ANDY AND KAREN? YEAH.
UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON IS BRINGING IN UP TO DATE DATA AS WELL AS CONSIDERATIONS THAT, THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BACK DURING THE PREVIOUS STUDY, LIKE TRANSIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND IN NUMBER SEVEN, IN TASK NUMBER, NO, I'M SORRY, TASK NUMBER SIX, UM, GAVE A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF THAT.
THIS ISN'T, AGAIN, ABOUT LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE SAME OLD, IT'S ABOUT IS THAT THE RIGHT LOCATION AND IF IT IS THE RIGHT LOCATION, UH, IS IT THE RIGHT SIZE, IS IT NEEDED AT ALL? WOULD A SURFACE LOT, UM, SUFFICE INSTEAD, ALL OF THAT IS ON THE TABLE GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE AGAIN AS A RESULT OF NEW INFORMATION.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY.
KATHY, UH, JESSICA, YOU HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE HERE? I JUST, MY MAIN INTEREST IS IN THE POINT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DUN RAYS, WHICH IS CONSOLIDATION, THE FACT THAT THIS, THIS STUDY IS GOING TO INCLUDE A CONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHETHER THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM CONSOLIDATING THE PARKING AND CENTRALIZING IT FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND ELIMINATING OTHER PARKING, UM, AS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT IS INCLUDED, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? THAT I, NO.
BEFORE WE GO TO COMMENTS, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC, OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM, AND WE HAVE TWO CARDS.
IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, FOR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE FILL OUT THE CARD TO YOUR RIGHT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, UH, MARK 10 BROOK, YOU KNOW, THE DRILL.
SAY YOUR NAME AND, UM, WE KNOW YOU'LL LIVE HERE, SO, BUT YOU CAN STILL ADDRESS IT.
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YEP.I'M MARK TIMBROOK, RESIDENT OF UPTOWN SEDONA.
AND I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ON THE, ON THE PROPOSAL.
I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS STUDY.
UH, I THINK THE TASK NUMBER ONE, UH, HAVING A TASK FORCE IS A FANTASTIC IDEA, UH, THAT ENGAGES, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
I DO THINK THAT YOU SHOULD IN, UH, UH, CONSULTANTS SHOULD ENGAGE A SUBCONTRACTOR LIKE DONALD SCH, WHO WROTE THE, UH, HIGH COST OF FREE PARKING, OR PATRICK SIGMAN, ONE OF HIS, UH, DISCIPLES.
AND ALSO I, I NOTED ON THE EXPERT, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN A RURAL SITUATION AS WE HAVE WITH A LOT OF VARIABILITY.
SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, HOPE THAT, UH, THAT WE GET SOMEBODY THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE.
UH, I WOULD PERSONALLY VOLUNTEER MY TIME AS A CIVIL ENGINEER AND UPTOWN RESIDENT TO BE A PART OF, UH, THIS TASK FORCE.
I THINK IN TASK TWO, THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT'S BEING COLLECTED, AT LEAST IN THE SCOPE SEEMS TO BE VERY MEAGER.
UH, IT, IT TALKED ABOUT FOUR DAYS OF, UH, DATA COLLECTION.
MAYBE I'M READING THAT WRONG, BUT I AGREE WITH, UH, THE COUNSELORS THAT SAID, WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON WHO'S PARKING WHERE, WHEN, WHERE THEY COME FROM, ARE THEY JEEP TOURS, TROLLEY TOURS, EMPLOYEES, AND SO FORTH.
UH, WE PROBABLY SHOULD INVEST IN TAKING AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD FROM NOW UNTIL THE SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN GET COUNTS IF WE NEED TO IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S CRITICAL.
UH, TASK THREE, REALLY, AS I READ IT SEEMS MORE LIKE A GO NO-GO DECISION ON THE PARKING.
AND AS WAS BROUGHT UP, WHAT IS THIS GROWTH THAT WE'RE AIMING TOWARDS? WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? UH, WHAT'S THE VISION? IS IT THE VISION IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN? IS IT THE VISION OF COUNCIL? UH, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT A NEW PARKING GARAGE WOULD COST US ABOUT $60,000 PER SPACE TO CONSTRUCT, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID BACK IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.
DOES THAT COME THROUGH PAYMENTS FROM BUSINESSES IN UPTOWN, OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO DO SINCE WE MAY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING ALREADY? UH, TASK FOUR.
IT'S GREAT THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE THEIR, THEIR, UH, THE, THE HACK AT THIS THING ONCE IT COMES OUT.
UH, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DURING TASK FIVE.
UH, I KNOW THE TABLETOP DISCUSSIONS REALLY FAILED, I THINK ON BREWER, UH, RANGER ROAD.
IT WAS CHAOTIC AND I DON'T THINK VERY HELPFUL.
I THINK IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HELD CONCURRENTLY WITH A, WITH A COUNCIL MEETING.
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT ON THE DE THE BASIS OF THE ANALYSIS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANY SINGLE QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION FROM THE PUBLIC.
THERE'S MANY IN THE PUBLIC WHO DON'T WANT TO DIRECTLY ASK QUESTIONS, BUT THEY SHOULD BE PART OF A QUESTION AND, AND ANSWER PERIOD.
I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TASK SIX ARE TOO FOCUSED ON THE GARAGE AND ITS LOCATION.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS SUCH AS VARIABLE PAID PARKING AND, AND THINGS TO, UH, ENCOURAGE THE TURNOVER AS WE, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PARKING PERIOD.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE LAST STUDY, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE UPTOWN PARKING IS IN LODGING.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT BE BETTER USED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
KNOW THE, THE DRILL NAME AND, UH, CITY OF RESIDENCE.
I'M JO ZANI, AND I LIVE IN UPTOWN, UM, SEDONA.
UM, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF MANAGERS.
UM, I'VE BEEN A FULL-TIME RESIDENT HERE FOR A LITTLE OVER EIGHT YEARS, EXCUSE ME.
AND WITNESS THE GROWTH, UH, AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS IN TOURISM AND, AND TRAFFIC IN TOWN.
AND, UM, I'VE PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN TO THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, ABOUT THE UPTOWN GARAGE PROJECT.
UM, AND I'VE ALSO VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON THE WORKING GROUP.
UH, I WOULD LOVE TO PARTICIPATE, UM, AND REPRESENT, UM, MY UPTOWN, UH, COLLEAGUES AND NEIGHBORS.
UM, THOUGH I'M GLAD THAT THE CITY HAS REACHED OUT TO KINLEY HORN, EXCUSE ME.
UM, AND, UM, TO OBTAIN THEIR PROPOSAL AND REEVALUATE THE DECISION THAT HAD BEEN MADE TO BUILD THE GARAGE IN UPTOWN.
UM, HAVING LOOKED AT THE, UH, SCOPE OF WORK, EXCUSE ME, AND PROPOSAL.
THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR ONE, UM, MAKES NO MENTION OF A STUDY ON THE IMPACT THAT A GARAGE SITE IN UPTOWN, UH, WILL HAVE ON ITS RESIDENCE IN IMMEDIATE ABUTTERS.
THIS INCLUDES HOW A GARAGE WILL IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO EVACUATE UPTOWN IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE OR OTHER CATASTROPHIC EVENT.
UM, THE LOCATION OF THAT GARAGE ON FOREST ROAD TO ME AND OTHER MEMBERS OR OTHER, UH, RESIDENTS OF UPTOWN, UH, PROVIDES AN IMPEDIMENT TO EVACUATION.
I RECALL THAT THE ORIGINAL IDEA OF EXTENDING FOREST ROAD WAS TO PROVIDE UPTOWN RESIDENTS, UM, ANOTHER
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MEANS OF EGRESS.UM, AND NOW THAT APPEARS WITH THE GARAGE SIGHTING TO BE, UM, POSSIBLY TAKEN AWAY.
UM, KIMLEY HORN STATES THAT IT MUST COMPLETE ITS ANALYSIS BY THE SUMMER OF 2023.
ACCORDING TO KIMLEY HORN, THE TIMEFRAME PRECLUDES SOME OF THE ELEMENTS WHICH ARE TYPICALLY INCLUDED IN THE FULL PARKING MASTER PLAN, INCLUDING STAKEHOLDER REACH, OUTREACH, POLICY DEVELOPMENT, PARKING, PROGRAM REVIEW, AND IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES.
THIS SUGGESTS THAT THE OVERALL ANALYSIS MAY BE INCOMPLETE AND POSSIBLY WILL FALL SHORT OF ITS STATED GOALS.
UH, I THINK THE WORKING GROUP BEING LIMITED TO EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ONLY WILL ALLOW FOR TWO OR THREE RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE ALONG WITH BUSINESS LEADERS.
AND CITY STAFF MIGHT THINK ABOUT, UM, EXPANDING, UH, THE NUMBER IN THAT GROUP, UM, OR DOING AS MARKET SUGGESTED, A, UH, PUBLIC FORUM, UH, AND A BROADER ENGAGEMENT OF, UH, RESIDENTS FUTURE PARKING NEEDS.
TASK THREE, THIS SUGGESTED, AT LEAST TO ME, THAT CITY IS INTERESTED IN BUILDING TO MEET ANTICIPATED FUTURE GROWTH.
DOES THE CITY WANT TO ACCOMMODATE MORE CARS IN UPTOWN? THE DESCRIPTION OF THIS TASK SUGGESTS THAT THAT IS THE OBJECTIVE.
UH, WHY DOESN'T THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDE AN ANALYSIS OF THE BENEFITS OF CONCENTRATING PARKING ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF SEDONA AND RELYING UPON THE NEW TRANSIT? YOU HAVE TO WRAP IT UP.
UM, I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, COMMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AT ALL? OKAY.
THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE CAN HAVE, UH, COMMENTS.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
ANDY, WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA COLLECT DATA, UH, I THINK IT WAS DESTINATION DATA, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO THAT? EXACTLY.
IT'S THROUGH, UH, ANOTHER VENDOR.
IT'S GONNA BE A SUB-CONSULTANT TO KIMLEY HORN.
AND, UM, THEY USE, UH, VARIOUS SOURCES OF DATA THAT, UM, CELL PHONE DATA, YOU MEAN LIKE GEOFENCING TYPE OF DATA SIMILAR TO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO NONE OF IT IS GONNA BE BY DIRECT CONTACT.
AND THAT WOULD BE, IF YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE QUITE AN UNDERTAKING IF WE WERE TO DO THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE? JUST, UH, FINAL YEAH.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PREFERABLY.
SO, UM, JUST A QUESTION FROM WHAT WAS RAISED FROM A MEMBER OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MY AREA, SO, UH, IT DOES FEEL LIKE WHEN I GO BACK AND READ, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DAYS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE PICKING UP THE DATA.
HOW DO WE REALLY FEEL THAT THAT'S SUFFICIENT, UM, TO EXTRAPOLATE OUT? I THINK GIVEN THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS, LIKE IS OUR ANALYSIS ADEQUATE? THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY ANALYZED IT BEFORE, I THINK IS PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION.
THAT WAS PART OF THE CONTEXT OF WE FEEL LIKE THE ADDITIONAL DATA THAT WE'RE GATHERING, WHILE IT'S NOT EXTENSIVE, IT'S SUFFICIENT BECAUSE IT'S ON TOP OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
IT'S VERIFYING PEAK TIMES, IT'S VERIFYING, YOU KNOW, THE DEMAND AREAS THAT WE WANT TO GATHER DATA FROM.
AND, AND IT'S UP TO DATE, IT'S NEWER INFORMATION, BUT THAT HAS A, UM, INHERENT PROBLEM, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAS REALLY CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THE LAST TIME THIS WAS DONE, RELYING ON THE OLD DATA TO FILL IN WHAT YOU'RE COLLECTING ON THE NEW DATA MAY NOT LEAD YOU TO AN APPROPRIATE CONCLUSION.
IT COULD BE A, A FALSE CORRELATION.
WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S BACKGROUND DATA.
COULD, COULD I STEP IN ON THAT AND CLARIFY? CAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS AND, AND IT'S REALLY, THIS IS ALL LEVEL OF EFFORT STUFF.
SO IF, IF MONEY IS NO OBJECT, AND YOU CAN PUT AS MANY BOOTS ON THE GROUND OUT THERE, OR DRONES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, DO THE, THE, THE COUNTS CUZ EVERYTHING BOILS DOWN TO A MANUAL, SORRY.
I THINK WHAT ANDY'S SAYING AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR IS THAT WE WILL EITHER VALIDATE THAT WE FIND THAT THE DAYS THAT WE'RE
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MEASURING SHOW US A CONSISTENT PATTERN TO WHAT WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO, OR WE FIND THAT IT DIFFERS GREATLY, IN WHICH CASE THAT WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DATA COLLECTION AND TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW VERSUS THEN.SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE NECESSARILY RELYING ON THAT DATA TO FILL IN ALL THE GAPS.
IT'S A MATTER OF VALIDATING THE, THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE PREVIOUSLY OR NOT.
BRIAN COM COMMENTS, COMMENTS, NOT QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.
WELL, BOTH IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I WANNA MAKE SURE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.
THEN COMMENTS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR NOW.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME UNFORTUNATE LANGUAGE THAT, UH, KIMLEY HORN PUT IN THE PROPOSAL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST KIND OF THEIR READ ON WHAT THEY THINK THEY HEARD OR, OR WHERE SOME THINGS I FEEL KIND OF GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION BECAUSE LIKE THE PROJECT TITLE ITSELF COULD LEAD ONE TO THINK THAT THERE'S SORT OF A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT WE'RE BUILDING A GARAGE IN UPTOWN AND IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF WHERE, AND YOU KNOW, ANDY, YOU'VE SPOKEN, YOU KNOW, UH, DISCREETLY THAT THAT'S NOT IN FACT THE CASE.
UH, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH YOU AND CITY MANAGER KAREN, HAVE BOTH INDICATED, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT MAY WELL BE THE EXACT OPPOSITE, BUT THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.
AND THEN MR. ZANI, UH, YOU REFERRED TO THE BURNING PLATFORM, OH, WE GOTTA GET THIS DONE BY, YOU KNOW, FALL 2023.
AND I'M KIND OF LIKE, WHY
THE URGENCY IN THE PROJECT IS COLLECTING DATA STARTING RIGHT NOW, WHICH WE'RE DOING.
LIKE, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT COLLECTED, UH, SO THAT WE CAN PUT THAT INTO ANALYSIS.
THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THE, THE PROJECT AND HOW THE TASKS ARE LINED OUT, I, I REALLY FEEL LIKE TO SOME EXTENT WE'RE KIND OF APPROVING A BUDGET AND THE TASKS MAY KIND OF GET REALIGNED AS WE LEARN SOME THINGS IN THE EARLIER TASKS OF THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, IF THE EARLY STAGES SAY, HEY, WE DON'T NEED A GARAGE, WE DON'T NEED TO GO SPENDING TIME ON CITING A GARAGE
SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THERE'S SOME SOMEWHAT UNFORTUNATE LANGUAGE THAT'S USED IN THERE, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF, THAT WE ARE IN FACT, YOU KNOW, TAKING A, UM, UH, A CLEAN SLATE APPROACH.
YES, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DATA FROM THE PAST, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING INTO THIS WITH ANY KIND OF A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.
I THINK THAT COVERS ME FOR RIGHT NOW, MAYOR PETE.
I'M JUST A FAN OF, UH, HAVING GOOD DATA TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE RELYING HEAVILY ON WHAT SCENE.
THERE WAS ONE QUESTION I'LL POP OUT HERE AT THE END.
YOU MENTIONED THAT I THINK THE PROPOSAL DID, UH, SOME DRONE FLYING AND I FORGET WHETHER IT WAS MR. TIM, MR. ZNY MENTIONED AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
CAN ARE, ARE WE VIDEOTAPING THE DRONE STUFF? IS THAT IS IS, OR IS THERE ALSO AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? YES.
SO YOU COULD TAKE IMAGES FROM THAT.
NOT TO FORGET, UH, KATHY, YOU STILL WITH US? I DON'T SEE HER IN HER CHAIR, NO.
YOU HAVE SOME, UH, COMMENTS TO MAKE.
SHE'S TALKING, BUT IT'S NOT COMING.
SHE'S NOT ALL, WE WE'RE NOT GETTING IT AT ALL.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET JOANNE, OUR KEY TECH PERSON.
SORRY, I COULDN'T GET THE MIC TO UNMUTE, UH, ALL OF THIS TO SAY.
NO, I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
COM UH, KATHY, WE'RE DOING COMMENTS NOW, SO, OR ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE PROJECT ARE, WELL, I'M GLAD WITH THE EXPLANATION THAT CAME.
AND JESSICA, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD.
WE COULD ANALYZE IT MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO GET GOING.
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AND I THINK BRIAN'S PROBABLY RIGHT.WE'LL SEE WHAT EMERGES AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.
I REALLY NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
AND BEFORE, LET, LET ME TAKE A, A SHOT AT THIS TOO, UM, JUST TO GO OVER SOME NO, BRIAN WAS GONNA, HE WANTED TO SPEAK AGAIN.
UH, I GOT THE NAME RIGHT, SO THERE YOU GO.
I KNOW, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, UH, JOE, WHERE YOU CAME UP WITH THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO RUSH US THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITH THE HIGH COST OF CONSTRUCTION BY TAKING OUR TIME, THE PRICE CAN COME DOWN.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE BRIAN SAID, WE'RE NOT IN RUSH, BUT WE WANNA GET IT RIGHT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW EITHER ONE OF YOU SAID ABOUT, UH, I THINK JOE, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HAVE MORE RESIDENTS ON THE, THE COMMITTEE.
IT'S, THE COMMITTEE'S SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL THE KEY PLAYERS, NOT JUST RESIDENTS, NOT JUST BUSINESSES NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HEAVY.
AND AS LONG AS THAT'S BEING DONE, I MEAN, I, I KNOW BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENTS IN UPTOWN WITHOUT A DOUBT.
SO THAT IS THEIR WAY TO WEIGH.
IN THE SAME WAY, IF WE HAVE EQUAL AMOUNT OF BUSINESS OWNERS, THAT'S THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS WAY OF WEIGHING IN, WE HAVE TO KEEP IT FAIR.
BUT TO HAVE A VERY LARGE GROUP, IT CAN SOMETIMES BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
SO I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT EITHER.
LIKE PETE SAID, HAVING GOOD DATA IS IMPORTANT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT IT RIGHT OR WRONG BEFORE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT WE'RE DOING IT NOW.
WE CAN HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND, UH, WHICHEVER WAY WE GO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT I, I THINK WE'LL HAVE BETTER DATA NOW BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS BETTER NOW.
AND I, I JUST WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE IT TODAY BECAUSE GOD KNOWS WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TRAFFIC TODAY.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE ARE PATRONIZING OUR RESTAURANTS AND ART GALLERIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, UH, THOSE ARE MY, UH, QUICK COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, I OH, YOU, I'M SORRY.
OKAY, LET'S GO DOWN ONE MORE TIME.
SO I SUPPORT DOING THIS PROJECT, BUT I THINK WE'RE VERY LIGHT ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
WE JUST HAVE ONE OPEN HOUSE, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SUFFICIENT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF, OF CONCERN BY THE RESIDENTS IN UPTOWN.
WE MIGHT HAVE CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF UPTOWN AS WELL.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR, THAT THE TASK FORCE ITSELF NEEDS TO BE BALANCED, BUT THE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS NEEDS TO BE AS BROAD AND AS WIDE AND AS ENCOMPASSING AS, AS WE CAN GET IT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO, TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, AND, AND POTENTIALLY ADD SOMETHING.
AND I KNOW IN THE OTHER STUDY THAT WAS DONE, I HAD SOME REAL CONCERNS AND ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE LOGIC, SOME OF THE, UH, ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT GROWTH.
THERE WAS SOME VERY LARGE ASSUMPTIONS IN THERE ABOUT THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF VISITORS AND I THINK BEFORE, AND THAT, AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS THE REASON THAT THE DEMAND WAS SO HIGH.
SO, AT THE TIME, AS I RECALL, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS RECENTLY, THIS IS JUST FROM MEMORY.
IT WAS FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT AT THAT CURRENT TIME IT WAS FUTURE PARKING BASED ON WHAT I BELIEVED WERE SOME FALSE ASSUMPTIONS IN THAT RESULTED IN THIS HIGH DEMAND IN THE FUTURE.
SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE USE TO PROJECT THE FUTURE DEMAND.
THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT.
WORKING OUT WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES NEED TO BE FOR DETERMINING FUTURE NEED.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, AS PART OF THIS OR IN SOME OTHER WAY, I, I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY WHO DOES, AND MAYBE JEREMIAH IS THE RIGHT PERSON, MAYBE IS NOT, BUT SOMEBODY WHO'S REALLY STEEPED IN ALTERNATIVES TO PARKING.
I WANNA HEAR FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE EXPERIENCE OF LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING AND
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HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES.AND I HAPPENED TO BE IN TWO PLACES TODAY WHERE ROBERT WAS PRESENTING AND HE SAID SOME INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE, THE NATURAL PUSH PULL OF THE TRANSIT VERSUS PARKING AND MM-HMM.
AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US.
WE'VE READ A LOT OF ARTICLES, BUT IT WOULD BENEFIT US TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO TALK TO ABOUT THAT.
MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT, JESSICA.
WHAT? ESPECIALLY WHILE YOUR MIC IS ON, SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, I, I CERTAINLY HOLLY'S, UM, SUGGESTION MAKES SENSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW RURAL, THE STUFF I'VE READ IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY HAVING TO DO WITH URBAN.
WE'RE A RURAL NORTHERN CUTOFF COMMUNITIES.
SO I'D LIKE WHATEVER WE HEAR TO SORT OF FOCUS ON COMMUNITIES MORE LIKE OURS THAN CHICAGO AND PHILADELPHIA OR BALTIMORE.
SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY OTHER COMMENT.
UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF DATA COLLECTION.
I THINK IT'S THE WAY WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
MY COMMENT WOULD FOLLOW ON FROM THE VICE MAYOR AND FROM THE MAYOR AND FROM EVERYONE ELSE HERE, IS WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS, UM, BECAUSE THOSE FACTS MAY NOT BE IN EVIDENCE TO RELY ON THE FACTS THAT WE THOUGHT WE SAW, UM, YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE ANTICIPATING GROWTH.
THIS MAY NOT REALLY BE THE WAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS NOW.
OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM, WE HOPE EVENTUALLY WILL SUPPORT EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST VISITORS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WHEN OUR VISITORS ARE HERE, WE'RE NOT VERY RURAL
UM, WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS OF A MORE URBAN AREA.
NOW I REALIZE HAVING LIVED IN CHICAGO, HAVING LIVED IN LONDON, WE HAVE NO TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. UM, COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING, HOWEVER, THE PROBLEMS FOR US, BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL COMMUNITY, WE HAVE VERY FEW MAIN ROADS AS YOU, AS YOU WELL KNOW.
SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE A SPLIT PERSONALITY OF A COMMUNITY.
SOMETIMES WE'RE VERY RURAL AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.
AND THOSE PEOPLE MAY BE GOING TO ALL THE SAME PLACES.
AND SO AS WE THINK ABOUT TRANSIT, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE MICROT TRANSITS AND FIXED TRANSIT AND ALL THE OTHER KINDS THAT I'VE HEARD MENTIONED, WE NEED TO START TO FACTOR THAT IN PRETTY HEAVILY WHEN WE START TO THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE PARKING AND ALTERNATIVES TO PARKING.
AND WHETHER OR NOT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY CAN ALSO THEN HELP US, WHICH IS WHY I'M GLAD YOU'RE, YOU'RE INCLUDING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN THIS CONVERSATION.
UM, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT HAVING MORE THAN TWO REPRESENTATIVES OF BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS? UH, THAT, THAT FEELS PRETTY LEAN AND JUST LIKE VICE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING AS MUCH INPUT AS WE CAN.
I THINK THAT WE COULD BENEFIT FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE OF EACH, FOUR OF EACH.
UH, I ASSUME THAT'S REALLY AT OUR DISCRETION.
YOUR DISCRETION AS OPPOSED TO KIMLEY HORNS AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? IT'S STAFF'S DISCRETION FOR SURE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF KAREN HAS MORE INPUT THAN I WOULD AS FAR AS, UH, I THINK THAT STAFF NEEDS TO GO THROUGH AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT EXACTLY THIS TASK FORCE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND COME UP WITH THE BEST, UM, STRATEGY FOR THAT.
AND I, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THAT EFFORT YET.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE STILL NEED TO DO.
I'D LIKE TO ASK, HOW MANY ARE YOU ANTICIPATING BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE? I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SCOPE? THE SCOPE OF WORK CALLS FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STAFF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE AT THE TABLE, WE HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM A LONG RANGE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE TO FOCUS IN ON THE BIGGER PICTURE AND THESE POLICY QUESTIONS.
CERTAINLY AT LEAST A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS FROM ENGINEERING, QUITE FRANKLY, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROCESS AND I'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL.
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I, I DON'T KNOW IF GOING FROM TWO TO THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM RESIDENTS AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM BUSINESSES IS NECESSARILY GOING TO GIVE US ANY GREATER INSIGHTS, HONESTLY, IN TERMS OF STAKEHOLDER PARTICIPATION, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY HEARD FROM THE RESIDENT.I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION IN ANY OF OUR MINDS ABOUT HOW THE RESIDENTS OF UPTOWN FEEL ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
SO, AND, AND WE'VE GOTTEN THAT ON IN NUMEROUS MECHANISMS. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE HEARD IT, WE'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, ALL OF YOU HAVE.
SO, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ANOTHER SURVEY, ANOTHER MEETING WHERE WE GIVE FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WEIGH IN ON HOW MUCH THEY DON'T WANNA SEE A PARKING GARAGE HAPPEN UP THERE, IS GOING TO ACTUALLY ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS, AS ANALYTICAL AND DATA DRIVEN IN THIS DECISION AS WE CAN BE IF WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE FALLING SHORT IN ONE OF THESE TASKS, I WOULD RATHER THROW ADDITIONAL RESOURCE IN FUNDING INTO ADDITIONAL DATA COLLECTION.
SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SCIENTIFIC THAN WHAT WE KNOW IS A PUSH AND PULL AND, AND OPINIONS ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN UPTOWN.
DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? OH, DO YOU STILL FEEL, YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
BUT I'M CURIOUS IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE DIAS FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN TWO AND TWO, OTHERWISE IT'S A MOOT POINT, RIGHT? WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU MY POINT OF VIEW, WHICH I HAVEN'T GIVEN TOO MUCH TODAY, IS, UH, WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID, UH, IS TRUE.
WE HAVE, WE KNOW THAT BY AND LARGE, THE RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT A PARKING GARAGE.
THE BUSINESS OWNERS DO WANT A PARKING GARAGE.
AND WE'VE HEARD IT, AND THAT'S WHY THE WHOLE PROCESS STOPPED.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TOTALLY BACKPEDALING AND MOVING TO A DIFFERENT METHOD TO GET MORE AND BETTER AND MORE CURRENT DATA.
WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE, WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE IF WE HAVE ONE EXTRA PERSON FROM EACH.
UM, IN MY MIND, I THINK THE DATA THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING, UH, IN THE COLLECTION, I THINK IT'S, THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL BECAUSE THE DATA SAYS EVERYTHING TO ME AS OPPOSED TO, UH, SOME PEOPLE, I MEAN, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGE, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO HAD IT IN THEIR MIND THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD PARKING.
IT'S GONNA BE, UH, WHATEVER THE, WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF, IF WE WENT WITH THE PARKING GARAGE, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? RIGHT? THE GARAGE OF THE PARKING GARAGE, 2 72.
TWO, WE WERE GONNA ADD 272 PARKING SPACES.
AND THAT WASN'T, THAT WAS NEVER THE CASE.
WELL, BUT THEN TOWARD THE TAIL END, IT WAS, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, REPLACE AND KEEP THE NUMBER THE SAME OR, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE SAME.
UH, WHICH THAT'S ALSO AFTER LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ARE TRYING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS A ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE.
AND I THINK WE MAY GET DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
JUST ONE, JUST ONE SECOND, JESSICA.
SO, UM, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THAT'S MY, MY OPINION.
AND, UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
I TOTALLY AGREE THAT HAVING THREE PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW ARE TOTALLY OPPOSED TO IT, AS OPPOSED TO TWO PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW ARE TOTALLY OPPOSED TO IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THE SITUATION.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE A GROUP THAT'S WILLING, NOT JUST TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY CAME IN WITH OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT TO ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER AND LOOK ANALYTICALLY AT WHAT'S BEING DONE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION.
CERTAINLY IF, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL RESIDENT PARTICIPATION, IT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
THAT IF IT'S GOING TO FUNCTION AT ALL, HAS TO BE FREE OF THAT JUST CRAFTING CLEVER ARGUMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
AND I, I JUST TOTALLY AGREE WITH, WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT
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THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED.AND IF, IF, IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT THE COMMITTEE HAS TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AND I'M, I, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT LET'S LET THE COMMITTEE DO ITS JOB AND TWO VERSUS THREE.
IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY A MEANINGFUL, MEANINGFUL CHANGE.
SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, BRIAN, I'M, I'M, I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO ACHIEVE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
PETE, I JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE, I ALMOST GONNA SAY MORE IMPORTANT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SAY MORE IMPORTANT.
IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE OPEN WITH THE DATA AND TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH TIME TO DEAL WITH IT THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE KEY.
ARE WE GOOD? UH, KATHY, I, YOU, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM YOU DURING THE LAST ROUND.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY PROVIDING YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON.
I, UM, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WHERE WE CAN, BUT I DON'T WANNA SLOW THIS PROJECT DOWN.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE, UM, THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
WE'RE TALKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO AND SIX OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE SIGNIFICANT.
UH, I, I WANNA SEE THIS MOVE AHEAD.
I, THE DATA I THINK IS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE HERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, I'M STILL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I REALLY WANNA SEE THE UPDATED DATA THAT WE GET.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? VICE MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY HORN, INC.
FOR AN UPTOWN PARKING ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS AND SITE SELECTION STUDY IN THE AMOUNT OF $148,000.
I THINK WE HAVE UNANIMOUS, JOANNE.
SO WE ARE, UH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
WE WILL BE TAKING A BREAK FOR ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU IN, IN A FEW, SORRY FOR THAT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
[8.c. AB 2926 Discussion/possible action regarding a Resolution requesting a voluntary off-highway vehicle (OHV) noise reduction.]
ITEM C, AB 29 26, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RESOLUTION REQUESTING, UH, THAT SEDONA OHV RENTAL COMPANIES LAUNCH A VOLUNTARY OH V NOISE REDUCTION INITIATIVE TO IDENTIFY AND IMPLEMENT METHODS OF REDUCING THE NOISE GENERATED BY THE RENTAL VEHICLES.AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE VICE MAYOR YOU'RE GONNA TO SURE.
SO I'LL, I'LL INTRODUCE THIS, BUT I DO, UH, I'M GONNA NOT TAKE VERY MUCH TIME BECAUSE THE, I THINK THE AGENDA BILL COVERS THE CONCEPT.
UH, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T AROUND DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE HELICOPTERS, THE, THE NO-FLY ZONE THAT WAS A, THAT WAS INITIATED, UH, BY THE CITY WITH ASKING THE CHAMBER TO ORGANIZE THE GROUP.
AND A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS GOT TOGETHER AND LOOKED AT THE VARIOUS ISSUES REGARDING HELICOPTER NOISE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND AFTER CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF BACK AND FORTH CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF A, A NO-FLY ZONE, WHICH DID REDUCE THE COMPLAINTS AND IT WAS VOLUNTARY, UH, REDUCED THE COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHO WERE CONSTANTLY HAVING HELICOPTERS FLY OVER THEIR PROPERTIES, AND, UH, AND I THINK BENEFITED THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND IT WAS DONE IN A COLLABORATIVE MANNER.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY SUGGESTING, IS A COLLABORATION, UH, AMONGST STAKEHOLDERS TO SEE WHAT, WHAT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THEY COULD COME UP WITH THAT WOULD, UH, REDUCE THE NOISE FROM OHVS.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE COMING SOON,
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WHICH BY, IN AND OF THEMSELVES WOULD REDUCE THE NOISE.BUT UNTIL THAT TIME AND UNTIL THEY'RE FULLY IMPLEMENTED ACROSS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE RENTAL COMPANIES, UH, THIS WOULD BE A CONCEPT OF GETTING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND SEEING WHAT THEY COULD, WHAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH.
AND IF THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING, THEN THEY DON'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING.
BUT HOPEFULLY BRILLIANT MINDS COM CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.
SO OUR COMMUNITY HAS ASKED US TO ASK THE O H V RENTAL COMPANIES TO, TO DO THIS INITIATIVE, AND WE HOPE THEY WILL AGREE AND COME TOGETHER AND LOOK AT ALL THE POSSIBILITIES.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT'S VOLUNTARY, WHERE PEOPLE WILL SPEND THE TIME TO THINK IT THROUGH AND SEE WHAT CREATIVE SOLUTIONS THEY CAN COME UP WITH AND IMPLEMENT.
I COULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT BETTER SINCE I KNEW ALL ABOUT THIS.
SO, UM, ANYBODY HERE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON AADE BEFORE I TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS? PETE, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU VICE MAYOR FOR THAT.
UH, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THAT PROCESS THAT ENDED UP WITH THE, UH, AIRPORT HELICOPTER FOLKS, DID THAT START OFF WITH BY RESOLUTION AS WELL.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION COUPLED TO THAT IS ARE WE ASKING, UH, A CONVENER LIKE THE CHAMBER TO LEAD THIS EFFORT OR JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THE PARALLELS THAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING? I JUST, LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
SO I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
NO, IT DID NOT COME UP THROUGH A RESOLUTION, BUT IT WAS PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE TOURISM PLAN AT THAT TIME.
UH, WE COULD ASK THE CHAMBER, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
UH, WE HAVE, DO WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON OUR, UH, 2024 FY 24 WORK PLAN IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS? UH, SO THAT IS A, IF, IS THAT WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO? WE COULD ENGAGE WITH THEM AND, AND TAKE THAT COURSE.
OTHERWISE, UH, THE MAYOR AND I AND THE CITY MANAGER HAVE AGREED THAT WE WOULD START THE PROCESS.
AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, I'M NOT SAYING THE CHAMBER WOULD BE THE RIGHT PARTY OR NOT, BUT I KNOW TREAD LIGHTLY HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD, BEEN MAKING SOME REALLY GOOD ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
I MEAN, PRETTY SHARP STUFF THEY'RE DOING IN THE FOREST.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD BE MORE, UH, INNOVATIVE IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OHP COMPANIES.
AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS FOR OHVS, IT'S NOT FOR JEEPS, IT'S FOR OHVS.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TREAD LIGHTLY IS IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THAT.
BRIAN, MR. MAYOR, DO YOU MEAN THE ROCK GROUP AS OPPOSED TO TREAD LIGHTLY? UH, YES.
BUT I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO THE MEETINGS AT TREAD LIGHTLY, SO IN THE ORGANIZATION THAT THEY, THEY WORKED, I GUESS, RIGHT? ROCK WORKS THROUGH THE TREAD LIGHTLY GROUP ROCK IS, BUT LARGELY PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE ALREADY RIGHT NOW.
AND IT CERTAINLY COULD BE IN THEIR PURVIEW TO RIGHT.
UH, PURSUE THIS TOPIC, UM, TREAD LIGHTLY.
I MEAN, SURE THEY COULD TOO, BUT YEAH, NO, I GET IT.
UH, ALSO I'D LIKE TO, UH, MENTION WITH THE VICE MAYOR THAT SHE MENTIONED, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME BILLS GOING THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATION.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, ABOUT, UH, THE HEAVIER ELECTRIC OHVS AND COMING WITH, UM, HEAVIER OHVS IS THE REASON WHY THEY'RE HEAVIER IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ELECTRIC AND THEY'LL DO MORE DAMAGE OTHER THAN BEING QUIET.
BUT THEY'RE GONNA DO A LOT MORE DAMAGE TO THE, UH, TRAILS BECAUSE, UH, THEY CAN GO A LOT FASTER.
AND, UM, I WAS TOLD THEY COULDN'T, UH, BASICALLY GO UP TO 500 HORSEPOWER EQUAL TO A CORVETTE ENGINE, IS WHAT I'M TELLING PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING UNLESS THEY'RE GOVERNED DOWN, WHICH I WAS TOLD BY SOME PEOPLE THIS WEEKEND THAT THEY CAN BE, DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL BE, BUT THEY CAN BE.
SO, UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT, FACT THAT THEY'LL BE HEAVIER AND ELECTRIC.
SO, UH, MELISSA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD? BRIAN INTERESTED IN, UH, THE PUBLIC FORUM ON THIS? YEP, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
UH, KATHY OR JESSICA QUESTION? YES.
ARE YOU READY FOR ME? I AM, I THINK.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, TO WHOM
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WILL THIS BE SENT, IS THIS INTENDED, THE RESOLUTION INTENDED TO BE SENT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL O H B UM, RENTAL OPERATOR BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY? THEY'LL EACH GET AN INDIVIDUAL COPY OF THIS, AND WOULD THERE BE A COVER LETTER WITH IT AS WELL? OR WOULD THIS GO OUT THROUGH ROCK? I JUST, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE CHANNEL OF THE DISTRIBUTION.AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, COULD WE COPY THIS RESOLUTION TO OUR NEIGHBORING VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITY ELECTED OFFICIALS OR, OR THE MUNICIPALITIES OFFICIALLY AS WELL AS OUR STATE LEGISLATORS? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, KURT.
UH, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM GOING BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY? NO, IT CAN BE SENT OUT BY WHOEVER OR TO WHOM, WHOMEVER COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEND IT TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S VOLUNTARY.
WELL, IT'S VOLUNTARY, BUT IT REFLECTS THE WILL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE THAT KNOWN TO OTHERS, THEN IT CAN DO SO.
UH, JESSICA, WHAT, SO DID EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT, THAT IT SHOULD GO TO EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES AND BE COPIED TO EVERYBODY? I SAID I, I AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, ISN'T IT PART OF DISCUSSION? WE WELL, WE WILL BE.
BUT WE CAN JUST GET SOME IDEA.
OKAY, JESSICA, I HAVE NO COMMENT.
I HAVE THREE, FOUR CARDS, SO IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY COMPLETED A CARD, UH, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE DO SO.
ON, ON THE TABLE THERE, I WILL BE ASKING FOR TIM ERS, PLEASE STEP UP WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE TO ME.
HELLO, YOU KNOW THE DRILL NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE? ANGUS, UH, LONGTIME RESIDENT, CITY OF SEDONA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JIM, UP HERE.
UH, AND ALSO OWNER OF OUTBACK ATV RENTAL.
SO, UH, I'D ACTUALLY HEARD OF THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST WEEK.
UH, KAREN DID A GREAT JOB KIND OF BRIEFING US ON IT A LITTLE BIT AT THE, UH, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAD.
UH, SHE DID, UH, LIKE I SAID, A VERY GOOD JOB AT KIND OF EXPLAINING SOME OF THE REASONINGS WHY, UH, I PERSONALLY HAVE LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR ALMOST FIVE DECADES NOW, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY THAT, HEY, I DON'T SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW OR THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 10, 15, 20 YEARS.
SO I HAVE NO CHALLENGE WHATSOEVER SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THERE THAT WE CAN FIND, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO CUT OUT, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO NUMBERS OR DECIBELS OR LAWS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IF WE CAN TAKE ONE OR TWO DECIBELS, OR WHETHER IT'S FIVE OR 10 DECIBELS, WHATEVER IT IS, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FIND IN THERE, I'M ALL ABOUT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND EXPLORE THAT.
I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED IN THE PAST, BUT WE KNOW WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY, THINGS CHANGE VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A YEAR OR SO SINCE I'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT, I'M DEFINITELY WILLING TO, AND I'VE ALREADY STARTED TO, SINCE WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION, KAREN, LAST WEEK.
UH, I DO WANNA KIND OF CAUTION YOU A LITTLE BIT THOUGH.
I HEAR A LOT OF COMPARISONS TO THE FLY FRIENDLY AGREEMENT, AND OBVIOUSLY IT CAME ALONG AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING THE, THE NOISE FROM THE OHVS AND, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE, OR ACTUALLY A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
IT'S KIND OF APPLES AND ORANGES.
I KNOW THE DECISIONS THEY MADE WERE BASICALLY JUST A DECISION, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE ANOTHER FLIGHT PLAN AND LET'S SIMPLY FLY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS MECHANICALLY ALTERING THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES, WHICH THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE THERE.
UH, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOME DEALINGS WITH THE MANUFACTURERS AND SUCH.
SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, SNUFFLE UP AGAINST LOOKING VEHICLES WITH MUFFLERS HANGING ALL OVER 'EM, OR, OR BLANKETS ALL AROUND THE CLUTCHES.
THERE'S A LOT MORE THINGS AT PLAY THAN, THAN YOU GUYS MAY THINK.
AND I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF GET INTO THE ENGINEERING OR ANYTHING BEHIND THEM, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT.
UH, I WOULD JUST ASK THE COUNCIL IF THEY COULD JUST KIND OF GIVE US A FEW WEEKS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT SPRING BREAK HAS JUST ARRIVED BY LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC OUT THERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
IT'S BEEN A REALLY, I'D LIKE TO SAY DRY SEASON, BUT IT'S BEEN A WET ONE OVER THIS WINTER, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TRAIL CLOSING AS I KNOW ALL THE RENTAL COMPANIES AND A LOT OF THE JEEP TOUR COMPANIES ARE BEEN KIND OF FEELING THAT EFFECT A LITTLE BIT WITH A LOT OF THE TRAIL CLOSINGS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY TAKE OUT CUSTOMERS AND DO BUSINESS.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT SPRING IS FINALLY HERE, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY AND CAPITALIZE ON THE NEXT PROBABLY 30, 45 DAYS OF THAT TO DO THAT.
SO, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THIS AS, AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND LOOK AT IT, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO INVOLVE YOU GUYS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
OBVIOUSLY, OUTBACK ATV IS A MEMBER OF THE ROCK GROUP, UH, AS OUR COUPLE OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.
UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD A ROCK MEETING OFFICIALLY SINCE WE ACTUALLY HEARD ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING ONE OUT THERE PRETTY QUICKLY, PRETTY WELL.
AND, UH, WE, THIS WILL BE A BIG TOPIC OF THE CONVERSATION AND ACTUALLY TREAD LIGHTLY IS THE COMPANY, OR ACTUALLY THE, UH, NONPROFIT THAT WE USE FOR ALL OF OUR DONATIONS TO, TO MAKE THAT COMEBACK SO
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TREAD LIGHTLY AND MATT CALDWELL AS YOU MET, AS AN INTRICATE PART OF THAT.SO, UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO, WE'RE DEFINITELY HERE TO DO.
UH, GUY LAUNION, YOU NEXT? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
MY NAME AGAIN IS GUY LAUNION, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SEDONA.
I'VE BEEN VISITING HERE SINCE 1990, AND A RESIDENT HERE SINCE OH NINE, AND I'VE SEEN OVER TIME, UH, THE, UH, UH, WHEN I CAME HERE, IT WAS A NICE, QUIET, PEACEFUL PLACE.
AND, UH, THE NOISE, IT'S NOT ALL OHVS.
THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC NOISE, BUT SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, UM, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE, AND I'LL SEND THIS IN WRITING SO THE DATA HEADS CAN HAVE IT
UH, AND UM, LAST YEAR I CONDUCTED AN, AN INFORMAL, UM, UH, SOME MAY SAY NON-SCIENTIFIC SURVEY, UH, USING, UH, UH, ONLINE.
AND I ASK, UH, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW RESIDENTS FELT THAT, UH, THAT THE O H V NOISE WAS VERY OFFENSIVE, SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE, OR NOT AT ALL OFFENSIVE.
81% SAID VERY OFFENSIVE, THE HIGHEST CATEGORY, UH, UH, 4% SAID SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE.
15% SAID THEY FOUND IT NOT OFFENSIVE AT ALL, BUT THE COMMENTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO FOUND IT NOT OFFENSIVE SAID, I DON'T LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE THEY'RE RUNNING UP AND DOWN MY STREET ALL THE TIME.
SO, UM, UH, DESPITE THE FACT THAT, UH, THERE'S MANY OTHERS HERE, UH, I'M HERE TRYING TO KIND OF REPRESENT THE, THE POPULATION.
SO I, I THINK VOLUNTARY IS, UH, PREFERABLE.
UH, UH, THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, WHETHER THE CITY COULD LIMIT, UH, OHVS.
AND IN MY READING OF ARIZONA STATUTE TITLE 28, THAT'S TRANSPORTATION SAYS THAT MUNICIPALITIES DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESTRICT TRAFFIC.
UH, I'VE DONE SOME, UH, ALSO SOME ONLINE SEARCHING.
ALL OF MY SOURCES, UH, OUR NEWSPAPERS ARE ONLINE INFORMATION.
CITY OF JEROME INITIATED AN 85 DECIBEL, UH, NOISE LIMIT, CAREFREE AND 80 DECIBEL NOISE LIMIT.
UM, THE, UH, NOISE FROM ENGINE BREAKING, UH, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A JAKE BREAK ARE DONE IN THE CITY OF SCOTTSDALE, GILBERT, PEORIA, AND GLENDALE.
THE NAVAJO NATION HAS, UH, ELIMINATED JAKE BREAKS ON THE HIGHWAY.
SO, UM, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE US TO BE ABLE AS A START TO WORK TOGETHER AND, UM, UH, VICE MAYOR, UM, YOUR LEAD IN WAS WONDERFUL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOT ME, YOU KNOW, INTO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
GEE, ANOTHER GROUP COULD WORK IT OUT.
THE, THE TASK ARE DIFFERENT, BUT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE, UH, UH, POINT OF ME, UH, INITIATING THE RESOLUTION, WHICH I, I HOPE YOU'LL READ FOR EVERYBODY.
I HAVE MY COPY, BUT I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
I'M A RESIDENT OF SEDONA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF KEEP SEDONA BEAUTIFUL.
OUR MISSION IS TO PROTECT AND SUSTAIN THE SCENIC, BEAUTY AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF SEDONA IN THE VANITY VALLEY.
THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT HERE IS QUIET, PARTICULARLY ON ABUNDANT TRAILS.
RESIDENTS MOVE HERE AND VISITORS TOURISTS VISIT HERE TO EXPERIENCE THE TRANQUILITY THAT RED ROCK COUNTRY OFFERS TO FURTHER OUR MISSION.
WE WORKED AS THE VICE MAYOR SAID, TO HELP PUT IN PLACE THE VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT WITH HELICOPTER OPERATORS.
AS WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE PROLIFERATION OF OHVS IN OUR AREA HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS.
AND THOSE RESIDENTS ARE DEMANDING THAT SOME ACTION BE TAKEN.
KSB IS PLAYING AN ACTIVE ROLE IN THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE WORKING GROUP THAT'S EVALUATING HOW OHVS RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND THE ENVIRONMENT CAN COEXIST OVER THE LONG TERM.
THIS GROUP MAY BE ONE OF THE FORUMS WITH WHICH TO HELP DETERMINE HOW TO TAKE THAT COLLABORATIVE ACTION.
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THE TECHNICAL CHALLENGE IN REDUCING THE NOISE OF, AH, OHVS THAT'S A GIVEN, AND TECHNICAL ISSUES HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT NOISE IS INCREDIBLY DISRUPTIVE TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING EXCEPT OHV DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS.WE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION AS A STATEMENT BY THE CITY OF SEDONA.
THAT NOISE GENERATED BY OHVS HARMS THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AND REQUESTING THAT RESI RENTAL COMPANIES UNDERTAKE A VOLUNTARY INITIATIVE TO REDUCE THAT NOISE.
I REALLY APPRECIATED WHAT TIM SAID OF THE OHV COMPANIES BEING WILLING TO INVESTIGATE WHAT CAN BE DONE AND BE WILLING TO, WITH THAT INFORMATION, TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS.
UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF BROKEN ARROW SINCE, UH, SEDONA, SINCE 2005.
UH, O H V NOISE IS NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I APPRECIATE AND I SUPPORT THE CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCING THIS OHV NOISE REDUCTION INITIATIVE.
UM, AS A RESIDENT, I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE, UH, ATV RENTAL COMPANIES AND TO PINK JEEP.
I KNOW THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AS BEST THEY CAN.
I KNOW THEY CARE ABOUT SEDONA, UM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC THAT THEY HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN.
UH, THERE'S OHVS ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR.
THEY'RE ENCOURAGED BY THE STATE.
UH, AND IN MANY CASES, OHVS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED.
SO THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH A RENTAL COMPANY CAN DO.
UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY, CUSTOMERS WANT THEM TO BE NOISY.
SO TO ME, UH, AND TO A GROUP OF RESIDENTS IN BROKEN ARROW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER ON TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS, WE THINK WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION.
AND IN OUR OPINION, THE SINGLE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS O HV NOISE IS TO ADDRESS O HV VOLUME.
AND THE BEST WAY TO ATTACK O HV VOLUME IS A SEDONA WIDE ELECTRIC ELECTRONIC PERMITTING SYSTEM.
OHV USERS GO ONLINE TO RESERVATION.GOV AND THEY BOOK AN AVAILABLE DAY AND TIME.
WE'LL BE ABLE, WITH THAT PERMITTING SYSTEM, WE CAN TRACK THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, THE TYPES OF VEHICLES, WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE COMING FROM, AND WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE TYPE OF DETAILED DATA I WOULD THINK THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO KNOW IN ORDER TO MANAGE OHVS.
AND THE OLD ADAGE IS LIKE, IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T MEASURE IT, YOU CAN'T MANAGE IT.
I THINK THAT'S VERY TRUE WITH OHVS.
SO WITH AN ELECTRONIC PERMITTING SYSTEM, WE'D BE ABLE TO REDUCE VOLUME THROUGH PERMITS.
WE COULD REALLOCATE PERMITS FOR TIMES OF DAY.
UH, WE COULD SMOOTH OUT THE TRAFFIC CUZ A LOT OF THIS NOISE IS PERCEPTION AS MUCH AS IT IS ACTUAL VOLUME.
AND SO A PERMITTING SYSTEM GIVES US AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY, NOT ONLY TO UNDERSTAND THE TYPES OF VOLUME, BUT THEN TO BE ABLE TO MICROMANAGE HOW THE PERMITTING SYSTEM, UH, ADDRESSES THAT VOLUME AND NOISE EVEN BETTER.
THE FOREST SERVICE KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS.
THE FOREST SERVICES ALREADY USING RESERVATION.GOV FOR SOLDIER PASS.
THE, IT'S A NATIONWIDE SYSTEM.
IT'S VERY EASY TO IMPLEMENT PEOPLE GETTING, USERS GETTING PERMIT BY, UM, BY LOCATION.
SO THAT'S THE ELECTRONIC PERMITTING SYSTEM.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE THAT I JUST LIKE TO RAISE IS THINGS LIKE DECIBEL LEVELS STATE LAW.
I KNOW THE CITY IS VERY CONCERNED, OR WHAT I'VE HEARD, THE CITY IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING A STATE SHARED REVENUE, UH, IF THEY PASS A LAW THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT UP SOME NUMBERS.
IN 19 20 22, THE CITY RECEIVED ABOUT 5 MILLION, $5 MILLION FROM STATE SHARED REVENUE WITH ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE $66 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR.
AND I THINK THEY SHOULD LOOK AT A $5 MILLION NUMBER AND SAY, IS THAT WORTH GIVING UP TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS O H V AND OTHER PROBLEMS LIKE SHORTTERM REYNOLDS THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF LOSING STATE TRADE REVENUE.
IS PEGGY SHAKEN? I THINK YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'LL BE ASKING THE OFF-HIGHWAY VEHICLE, UM, BUSINESSES TO DO THIS VOLUNTARILY.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT RECENTLY I PARTICIPATED IN A HEARING, UH, WITH ADOT, UH, THEIR SEEKING PUBLIC INPUT FOR THEIR 50
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YEAR UPDATE ON THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.UH, IN THAT MEETING, I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, UH, HOPEFULLY RECONSIDERING HIGHWAYS THAT ARE NOW USED AS MAIN STREETS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.
THESE OUTDATED, UH, LAYOUTS OF TOWNS AND SEDONA IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF IT, DO NOT FUNCTION WELL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I ASKED ADOT TO RECONSIDER HOW THEY DEAL WITH THESE TYPES OF ROADS AND TO LOOK INTO TRAFFIC CALMING STRATEGIES.
ONE OF THEM IS GETTING NOISE CONTROL REGULATED FOR THE WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT ADOT MIGHT TAKE ON IF THE CITY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO GIVE THEM, UH, INPUT AND TELL THEM THAT THIS IS HARMING OUR COMMUNITY AND WE REALLY NEED THEM TO STEP UP BECAUSE THEY ARE STEPPING UP FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
I AM A BICYCLIST AND PEDESTRIANS, AND I'LL TELL YOU THE NOISE IS REALLY OVERWHELMING IN A LOT OF AREAS, ESPECIALLY ON THE DRAG STRIP, WHICH IS OUR STATE HIGHWAY 89 A, WHICH IS REALLY OUR MAIN STREET.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT ONLY DO THIS VOLUNTARY OUTREACH TO THE O O H V, UM, BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO TO ADOT AND TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR COST EFFECTIVE, NOT AS EXPENSIVE REMEDIES AND THINGS THAT WILL HELP COMMUNITIES, UH, MOVING FORWARD AS WE TRANSITION INTO ELECTRICAL VEHICLE, UH, TRANSPORT AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DEANNA BENLEY.
IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO FILL OUT A CARD, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO THAT.
DEANNA NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENT RESIDENCE AND YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.
DEANNA BENLEY, BEAR MOUNTAIN, SEDONA.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, SPRING BREAK IS HERE, AND HONESTLY, IN OUR AREA, IT FEELS LIKE COVID TODAY WAS SO BAD.
I LEFT MY HOUSE TWO HOURS EARLY FOR THIS MEETING.
I JUST COULDN'T TAKE THE NOISE ANYMORE.
THERE WAS NOWHERE TO HIDE IN MY HOUSE OR ON MY LAND, AND ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY TODAY AND YESTERDAY.
THE OHVS WERE SCREAMING UP AND DOWN THE 1 52 C AND THE 5 25.
THE DUST IS EXTREME, EVEN AFTER SIX MONTHS OF RAIN AND SNOW.
UM, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, THE WONDERFUL STAFF.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED.
AND THIS RESOLUTION YOU GUYS HAVE COME UP WITH IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL, AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.
SEEING NO OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, WE'LL CLOSE OUT THE PUBLIC SESSION, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
UH, BEFORE WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY.
A RESOLUTION OF THE, UH, OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEDONA REQUESTING VOLUNTARY OFF HIGHWAY OH H V NOISE REDUCTION, WHEREAS THE GREATER SEDONA AREA IS KNOWN AND TREASURED FOR ITS TRANQUIL ENVIRONMENT.
AND WHEREAS OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLE OHVS RENTALS HAVE INCREASED GREATLY IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, RESULTING IN A COMMENSURATE INCREASE IN THE NOISE GENERATED BY THOSE OHVS.
AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS OF SEDONA LARGE FREQUENT COMPLAINTS ABOUT OHVS DISTURBING THE TRANQUILITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WHEREAS, UH, REPLACEMENT PRODUCTS AND TECHNOLOGIES ARE AVAILABLE, THAT WILL REDUCE THE DECIBELS OUT OUTPUT, THE DECIBELS OUTPUT BY OHVS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO EXHAUST SYSTEMS, TIRES, ELECTRIC VEAL VEHICLES.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF SEDONA STRIVES TO FOSTER A TRANQUIL ENVIRONMENT BY SUPPORTING OHV NOISE REDUCTION INITIATIVES BY THE SUCCESSFUL 2020 VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT TO REDUCE HELICOPTER NOISE.
NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND THE, UH, COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REQUEST THAT O H V RENTAL COMPANIES LAUNCH A VOLUNTARY O H V NOISE REDUCTION INITIATIVE TO IDENTIFY AND IMPLEMENT METHODS OF REDUCING THE NOISE GENERATED BY THEIR RENTAL VEHICLES.
AND IT WILL BE FOLLOWED, UH, PASSED AND ADOPTED
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BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA THIS 14TH DAY OF MARCH, 2023.SO, AND THAT WILL BE SIGNED BY MYSELF, THE CITY CLERK, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.
LET'S START WITH OUR, UH, TWO ONLINE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I HAVE TO HIT IT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR IT TO WORK.
UM, I THINK THAT ANY ACTION THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT MAKES IT CLEAR OUT THERE AGAIN, WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS SUFFERING AND THAT WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND THAT WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TO TAKE.
SO, I, I APPRECIATE THE RESOLUTION.
I THINK, UM, AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE THE PLEA THAT IT JUST BE GIVEN INDIVIDUALLY TO EACH BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY AND SENT TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, UH, GOVERNMENTS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION AT ALL, AND CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE RESOLUTION.
UM, I'M, I DON'T KNOW HOW OPTIMISTIC I AM, BUT THAT'S, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD STATEMENT TO MAKE, SO THANK YOU AND I SUPPORT IT.
JESSICA, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS AT ALL.
UH, I TOO APPRECIATE THE STATEMENT, UH, OF THE RESOLUTION, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S FOCUSED ON NOISE REDUCTION, AND THAT'S OKAY.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OHVS AS WELL, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A RESOLUTION THAT FOCUSES ON NOISE.
I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER A COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THIS, AND I HAVEN'T, ALTHOUGH MR. ANGUS HAD, UH, UH, EXPRESSED INTEREST IN WORKING ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE ASKING AND STAFF IS SAYING THAT THEY WILL HELP COORDINATE WHETHER THERE IS GONNA BE A VOLUNTARY GROUP THAT'LL COME TOGETHER OR WHETHER WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT ON INDUSTRY.
I HAVEN'T SEEN WHO PUTS UP THEIR HAND.
I I DON'T, I I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS JUST DIE AT THE END OF THE MEETING TONIGHT IF IT GETS PASSED.
KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I DO.
FURMAN, UH, A COUPLE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT ROCK, AND THAT'S A GROUP THAT'S ALREADY ORGANIZED.
SO THERE'S A VERY CLEAR AND DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THAT GROUP, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY THE, THE INDUSTRY.
THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE IS A MUCH MORE DIVERSE GROUP.
YOU'VE ALSO HEARD FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INDUSTRY WHO ARE REPRESENTED ON THAT GROUP, INCLUDING THE CO-CONVENERS, WHICH INCLUDE THE CITY AND THE FOREST AND STATE PARKS AND GAME AND FISH.
AND I FORGET THE GROUP, BUT THE, THE WHOLE, THE REST OF THE GROUP IS EVERYONE FROM THE WESTERNERS TO KSB TO NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING MR. JACKSON AND OTHERS.
UM, DEANNA FINLEY IS ON THE GROUP.
SO WHEN, WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THAT GROUP TALKED ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS HERE TONIGHT COMING TO, TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, WE WERE ABLE TO, BECAUSE THAT GROUP IS, UM, ALREADY ORGANIZED, ALREADY MEETING, ALREADY STARTING THEIR WORK, WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO DEALING WITH THE ISSUES RELATED TO MOTORIZED TRAIL USE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THAT DIRECT PATHWAY.
SO SOME OF THE ACTION TEAMS THAT ARE BEING SET UP, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A, A BIG GROUP, INCLUDE GROUPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THINGS LIKE NOISE AND SOME OF THE OTHER IMPACTS OF O HB.
SO I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE, THE STRUCTURES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT OUTREACH AND START THIS WORK SOONER ALREADY THAN LATER.
YOU HEARD SOME FOLKS TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN STARTING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THE LEVEL AT WHICH I THINK IT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO JUST BE A POLITICAL STATEMENT THAT DIES HERE, BUT THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE ACTION BEHIND IT.
THE, UH, THE SAME GROUP SDR THAT'S, UH, CONSULTING ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN HAS ALSO BEEN HIRED TO, UH, TO, TO FACILIT FOSTER THE FACILIT, YEAH.
AND, UH, AND SO THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH US WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
AND THEN THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE GROUP.
THIS WAS THE GROUP THAT RESULTED
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FROM OUR MEETINGS LAST YEAR, MAYBE EVEN TWO YEARS AGO, UH, TO TRY TO GET, UH, THE FOREST SERVICE TO AGREE TO LIMIT AND PERMIT OH, FEES IN BROKEN ARROW.AND THIS IS, AND THEY REFUSE TO DO IT.
AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THEY SAID, LET'S CONVENE A GROUP AND LET'S SEE WHAT THE GROUP COMES UP WITH.
AND IF THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THE GROUP DECIDES AND THERE'S DATA TO SUPPORT IT, PERHAPS WE CAN LOOSEN OUR RESISTANCE.
SO THE CITY COUNCIL IS ON RECORD REQUESTING THE FOREST SERVICE TO, TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF OHVS THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS, AS YOU HAD SUGGESTED TO US, CARL.
BUT WE NEED TO GET THE FOREST SERVICE.
IF THAT'S THE OUTCOME, THEN THE, WE NEED TO GET THE FOREST SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY.
ALYSSA, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU THINK THIS IS, IS A, ANYTHING BUT A GREAT THING FOR US.
IT IS A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS, ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE IT AS VOLUNTARY WITH, UM, ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES WHO ARE ENGAGED IN THESE ACTIVITIES WITH OUR VISITORS.
THAT JUST MAKES IT AN EVEN STRONGER, UM, STATEMENT THAT AS A COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY AND DO THEM TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY THE WAY WE WANT IT TO BE, WHETHER YOU'RE A BUSINESS OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE RESIDENTS.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S NOTHING BUT GOODNESS IN THIS RESOLUTION.
UM, WHAT, WHAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE VICE MAYOR MENTIONED THAT THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY, PRIOR TO THE ONE THAT'S SEATED RIGHT NOW, BUT WELL, NO.
ON RECORD OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, HEY, FOREST SERVICE.
DID I SEE YOU BACK THERE, AMY? UM, BEHIND THAT SCREEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, OH, WE WANT YOU TO PUT A, UH, PERMIT SYSTEM IN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXPENDING, UH, RESOURCES ON STUDYING THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF OHVS AND KAREN, I'M NOT SURE, WHEN DOES THAT STUDY GET UNDERWAY ON THE, ON THAT, UH, THEY'RE DOING SPRING COLLECTION NOW.
ON THE DATE TO START THE DATA COLLECTION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I PUT MY CORPORATE HAT ON, I THINK ABOUT LIKE, OKAY, I JUST TAKE A SLEDGE SLEDGEHAMMER TO A FLY TO KILL IT, IF THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WANT TO GO DO.
AND THAT'S NOT A GREAT WAY TO WORK AS A COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTARY ACTION IS A WHOLE LOT BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY THAN, UM, FORCED CHANGE UPON THE INDUSTRY FROM ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SUFFICIENT DATA TO TAKE A SLEDGEHAMMER TO THE SITUATION, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER, UH, BY FAR, IF, IF WE CAN GO ABOUT IT IN A VOLUNTARY WAY, THAT'S WHAT I CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE IT.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT CAN FOSTER COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, YOU ALL CAN LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEROES AS OPPOSED TO VILLAINS, RIGHT.
BY, UH, TAKING VOLUNTARY ACTION.
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD MOVE TO, UH, PUT THIS RESOLUTION OUT THERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST, I, I THINK THE, UH, THE OHV RENTAL COMPANIES AND THEN THE JEEP, I KNOW THE JEEP COMPANIES ARE HERE TOO, UH, THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
AND JUST REALLY, AGAIN, WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE VOLUNTARILY PARTICIPATIVE IN THE PROCESS AND NOT JUST BE ON THE RECEIVING END OF, UH, NEW LAWS, NEW RESTRICTIONS, NEW, UM, METHODS OF RESTRICTING, YOU KNOW, YOUR BUSINESS'S VIABILITY, UH, WITHOUT YOUR HAVING ANY SAY IN IT.
SO, I, I FORGET WHO IT WAS THAT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, WELL, THE, UH, FLY FRIENDLY AGREEMENT, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
AND YEAH, ONE'S UP IN THE AIR, ONE'S ON THE GROUND.
BUT I THINK THAT, UH, IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN A LOT OF WAYS.
UH, WE HAVE ROCK INSTEAD OF TREAD, LIGHTLY ROCK, I STAND CORRECTED, UH, HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE A VERY EFFECTIVE METHOD OR TOOL OR GROUP.
THE AIRPORT, THEY HAVE ONE CITY MANAGER, I'M SORRY, NOT CITY MANAGER, AIRPORT MANAGER, WHO FOR THIS AIRPORT MANAGER, HAS SHOWN HIMSELF TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE WITH HELICOPTER NOISE.
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I KNOW THAT HE, WHEN SOMEBODY COMPLAINS, HE ACTUALLY ANSWERS EVERY COMPLAINT.AND IF THE, THE, UH, OFFENDER, UH, HELICOPTER LANDS AT HIS AIRPORT, HE HAS WALKED OUT ON THE TARMAC TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THAT HELICOPTER OPERATOR.
SO, DIFFERENT METHODS, BUT THE END RESULT IS THE SAME.
UM, I LOOK AT THIS AS JUST A WAY TO RAISE AWARENESS.
I THINK MOST RESIDENTS HAVE IN THEIR MIND THAT, YEAH, OHVS ARE AN ISSUE FOR THEM, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S BEING DONE.
SO IF WE CAN SHOW THAT THE COMPANIES, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ALL THE COMPANIES, I, I THINK IT'S ALL BUT ONE COMPANY, UH, IS A MEMBER OF THE ROCK GROUP.
UH, BUT IF THE RESIDENTS CAN SEE THAT, HEY, THEY'RE, YOU ARE ACTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER TO COME TO A COMMON, UH, END RESULT, MAYBE THE RESIDENTS WILL REALIZE, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD THING.
AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP IN SOME WAY.
I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, A AWARENESS.
UH, THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE AMY AND THE FOREST SERVICE, I'M SORRY, WE, YOU IN THE CORNER SIMILAR TO THE FAA.
OKAY? THE FOREST SERVICE IS LIMITED BY WHAT THEY CAN DO.
WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP ON, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING WITH THE FOREST SERVICE TO HOPEFULLY GET A RESERVATION SYSTEM IN THE FOREST.
MAYBE THAT WILL COME, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE FAA NO WAY KNOW HOW ONCE YOU A ONE INCH OFF THE GROUND OR A HALF AN INCH OFF THE GROUND, YOU'RE IN AREA AIR SPACE, THEY DON'T CARE.
AND, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, BECAUSE A LOT OF OTHER INITIATIVES GOING ON UP IN THE AIR, BUT WE STILL HAVE AN ORGANIZATION OR THE AIRPORT MANAGER WORKING TO A GOOD RESULT.
AND I THINK THAT ROCK CAN WORK TOWARD A GOOD RESULT TOO.
I THINK IT'S JUST GREAT OUTREACH.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY CITY COUNCIL NEVER LISTENS.
WELL, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS LISTENING TO THE, THE PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, UH, I INTEND TO BE DOING MOVING FORWARD AND HAVE BEEN DOING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET A MOTION ON THIS, UH, RESOLUTION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE DO, UM, MR. MAYER, I, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THAT SEDONA, O H V RENTAL COMPANIES LAUNCH A VOLUNTARY, OH, HV NOISE REDUCTION INITIATIVE TO IDENTIFY AND IMPLEMENT METHODS OF REDUCING THE NOISE GENERATED BY THEIR RENTAL VEHICLES.
THAT WOULD BE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023 DASH SEVEN SEVEN.
ANY DISCUSSION, KATHY? JESSICA, I, NO.
HE HAD, WE'RE NOT MOTOR THERE,
OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS, I THOUGHT WE WERE AT THE MOTOR RUNNING.
UM, AND THEY'RE NO OPPOSED, OF COURSE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT AROUND, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY INTERESTING.
[8.d. AB 2861 Discussion/possible direction/action regarding proposed State legislation, short-term rental legislation and State budget and their potential impact on the City of Sedona]
ARE GOING FOR STATE LEGISLATION ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OTHER THINGS.ANYBODY JUDGE YOU DON'T LEAVE ON OUR PART.
DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION AND ACTION REGARDING PROPOSED STATE LEGISLATION, SHORT-TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION AND STATE BUDGET, AND THEIR POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY OF SEDONA.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, JOE ANN KEEN WITH A DOUBLE E.
UM, GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY TODAY.
UM, I, JOE HAS INFORMED ME THAT MY MOUTH SHOULD WORK BETTER TODAY, SO HOPEFULLY I CAN SCROLL THROUGH THIS.
UM, JUST AN UPDATE ON, UH, ON LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
UM, WE ARE, UH, STILL AT ABOUT 1600 BILLS.
SO I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT JUST, UM, IF YOU HAVE A BILL THAT IS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, SEND IT ON AND I'LL, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ADD IT TO THE LIST.
BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO MISS.
UM, THIS IS NOT MY FULL-TIME JOB.
UM, BUT WE HAVE, UH, A PRETTY GOOD LIST OF BILLS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IMPACT LOCAL CONTROL OR SUPPORT THE CITY'S AGENDA.
SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THOSE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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AT THE END THAT I'D LIKE, UH, COUNSEL TO TAKE A POSITION ON.UM, JUST, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE SESSION GOES NEXT WEEK, THE WEEK OF MARCH 20TH IS ACTUALLY THE LAST WEEK TO HEAR BILLS IN THE OPPOSITE CHAMBER.
UM, THERE'S SOME RUMBLINGS THAT THAT'S LIKELY GOING TO GET PUSHED ANOTHER WEEK.
UM, SO WE'LL KEEP WATCHING THAT.
UH, MAINLY BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, OUR BILL, HOUSE BILL 2040 OR 2 20 44, UM, WHICH IS THE BILL DEALING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY PLAN TO THE VOTERS.
UM, IT'S, UH, CURRENTLY BEEN ASSIGNED TO SENATE GOVERNMENT.
IT PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR A COMMITTEE HEARING.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT, UM, COMMITTEE HEARING, UH, IF NOT NEXT WEEK, THE WEEK AFTER.
SO WE HAVE, UM, TODD, UM, OUR LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE WHO'S WORKING THAT WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT SCHEDULED, UM, FOR A HEARING.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BILL SEVERAL TIMES.
THE, THE BILL THAT REMOVES, UM, THE ABILITY TO ASSESS A FOOD TAX AGAINST SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS LOCAL CONTROL.
WE DON'T HAVE A FOOD TAX IN THE CITY OF SEDONA.
UM, HOWEVER, IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER BILL THAT KIND OF ERODES THE AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THIS BILL HAS, UM, IT'S PASSED OUT OF WAYS AND MEANS, AND IT PASSED OUT OF RULES, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME RUMBLINGS.
THE LEAGUE ACTUALLY SENT OUT AN ACTION ALERT ON THIS BILL TODAY, UM, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOME TALK ABOUT IT MOVING, UH, TO THE FLOOR, UM, POTENTIALLY THIS WEEK.
SO WE HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS BILL, UM, WITH OUR DELEGATION, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL LEASE.
WE'VE GONE OVER THIS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR, BUT AGAIN, TAKES AWAY THE ABILITY TO, FOR CITIES AND TOWNS TO ASSESS A RESIDENTIAL RENTAL TAX.
WE DON'T HAVE A RESIDENTIAL RENTAL TAX.
UM, THIS, UH, WAS SENT TO THE GOVERNOR AFTER IT PA AFTER IT PASSED BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, AND SHE VETOED THE BILL.
UM, THERE ARE SOME RUMBLINGS THAT THIS COULD COME BACK TO LIFE IN SOME FORM.
UM, SENATE BILL TWO, UH, 1006, THIS IS THE BILL THAT WOULD'VE PROVIDED, UM, US SOME FLEXIBILITY TO, UM, PUBLISH OUR, UM, NOTICES ON OUR WEBSITE, UM, AND PROVIDE US ACTUALLY SOME COST SAVINGS AS WELL FOR THE CITY.
UM, THIS LEGISLATION DID PASS OUT OF THE SENATE BY A VOTE OF 16 TO 13, AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS ADDED TO THE BILL ON THE, ON THE HOUSE FLOOR, UM, BY, UH, YUMA SENATOR BRIAN FERNANDEZ.
UM, THAT ACTUALLY LIMITED THE BILL TO CITIES AND TOWNS IN A COUNTY WITH A POPULATION OF 4 MILLION OR MORE.
SO, UM, GOING TO THE, THE LARGER COUNT, THE, THE CITIES AND TOWNS LOCATED WITH WITHIN THE LARGER COUNTIES.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WATCH THIS BILL AND HAVE, UM, BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUDED.
AND, UM, WE HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE, UH, WORKING ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
SENATE BILL 10 11, UH, THE PARTISAN ELECTION BILL.
UM, AGAIN, WE ARE WATCHING THIS BILL, BUT THIS IS, UM, IT ACTUALLY PASSED OUT OF THE FULL SENATE AND THEN PASSED OUT OF HOUSE MUNICIPAL OVERSIGHT AND ELECTIONS BY A VOTE OF SIX TO FOUR.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, UM, IT'S MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW WITH NOT A LOT OF OPPOSITION.
SENATE BILL 1100, UH, THIS IS THE BILL THAT, UM, THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP RECENTLY ABOUT CHANGING THE WEIGHT LIMITS ON, UH, FOR OHVS FROM 2,500 POUNDS, UM, OR LESS TO 3,500 POUNDS OR LESS.
UM, THIS BILL HAS PASSED OUT OF, UM, HOUSE TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNOLOGY.
IT ALSO PASSED OUT OF THE FULL SENATE BY A VOTE OF 19 TO 10.
UM, AND THERE WAS A, A FLOOR AMENDMENT, UM, BUT IT ACTUALLY JUST APPLIED TO, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE INCREASED WEIGHT WAS INCLUDED IN THE, UM, REGISTRATION AND V L T REQUIREMENTS FOR REGISTRATION OF THE VEHICLES.
IT WAS A TECHNICAL, UM, TECHNICAL CHANGE IN THE BILL.
IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO PRESS TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR, UM, FOR COUNSEL IS, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE WEIGHED IN ON THIS BILL, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN INCREDIBLY VOCAL ON THE BILL.
SO IF, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WE CAN DEFINITELY, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
WE, WE ARE ON RECORD AS OPPOSING IT, BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, UM,
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WHEN IT DOES GET TO A HEARING IN-HOUSE TRANSPORTATION THAT WE, WE CONTACT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS.I'D BE HAPPY TO GO DOWN THERE AGAIN AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT I, I SUPPORT US BEING ACTIVE ON THIS ISSUE.
YOU NEVER REQUIRES US TO GO DOWN.
THIS IS THE, THE SETS UP THE SAFETY FUND.
BUT AGAIN, THIS BILL HAS NOT MOVED THIS SESSION.
UM, IT'S THE, THE FUND THAT WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, IN EACH COUNTY.
AND THE SPONSOR OF THIS BILL, UM, HELD THIS LEGISLATION TO ALLOW THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER LAST SESSION, WHICH, UM, I'M LOOKING AT COUNCIL MEMBER FURMAN, AND I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ON YOUR QUESTION FROM LAST TIME
SO I'LL KEEP ASKING THAT QUESTION.
JOANNE, I TALKED WITH DEANNA, UH, BINLEY, WHO'S ON THAT COMMITTEE.
IT CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEETING BY NOW.
WE'LL KEEP ASKING THAT QUESTION.
THIS IS THE, THE BILL THAT REQUIRES, UM, ALL VOTES TO BE TABULATED, UM, BY HAND AND NOT ALLOWED US, ALLOWING US TO USE MACHINE COUNTING.
AND THIS BILL, UM, HAS NOT MOVED YET.
IT MOVED OUT OF UM, COM, THE COMMITTEE HOUSE MUNICIPAL OVERSIGHT AND ELECTIONS.
AND IT HASN'T BEEN, UM, IT HASN'T MOVED OUTTA RULES, SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKELY DEAD FOR THIS SESSION.
ALONG, I GUESS THE, UM, PROHIBITS THE COUNTY RECORDER.
UM, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT US FROM HAVING, UH, DROP BOXES, UM, WITHIN THE CITY OR WITHIN ON CITY CAMPUS PROPERTY.
UM, THIS BILL HAS MOVED OUT, UM, MOVED OUT OF THE SENATE ON MARCH 2ND BY A VOTE OF 16 TO 14, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A PRETTY PARTISAN VOTE.
AND THEN IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS AND MUNICIPAL OVERSIGHT AND ELECTIONS, AND WE HAVE WEIGHED IN, UM, ON THIS BILL, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WEIGH IN.
UM, THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN, IT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO TWO COMMITTEES MEANS THAT IT'S, UM, LIKELY NOT GOING TO MOVE THIS SESSION.
THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFICULT TO MOVE THROUGH TWO COMMITTEES IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, BUT WE WON'T CALL IT DEAD YET.
UM, HOUSING TRUST FUND, AGAIN, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
UM, NO MOVEMENT, BUT I DID ADD ANOTHER HOUSING TRUST FUND BILL ON THE END THAT I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO SUPPORT.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE, UM, THE KIND OF ANTI DEFUNDING THE POLICE BILL.
UM, AND THIS WAS, UM, IT WAS ON THE HOUSE COW CALENDAR AND IT WAS RETAINED, AND THERE'S BEEN NO EFFORT TO, TO MOVE THE BILL.
SO THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY MOVEMENT ON THIS BILL EITHER, SO IT'S LIKELY, LIKELY DEAD AS WELL.
UH, SENATE BILL 20 45, 12 45, UM, V L T MONIES THAT HAS TO BE USED FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES.
AGAIN, THIS BILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S DEAD FOR NOW AS WELL.
AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH CHATTER ABOUT THIS BILL.
THE MUNICIPAL TAX CODE COMMISSION, THIS IS THE BILL THAT, UH, THE LEAGUE HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND, UM, HAD A LEAGUE RESOLUTION THIS SUMMER.
UM, COUNCIL DOES SUPPORT THIS BILL AND IT'S PASSED OUT, UM, OF THE SENATE ON THIRD READ, AND IT'S ALREADY PASSED OUT OF HOUSE WEIGHS AND MEANS, UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKELY GONNA BE MOVING TO A FLOOR VOTE.
AND PROBABLY MOVING QUICKLY TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
ON, ON THAT BILL, JOANNE, DID I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A EXPIRATION DATE THAT'S BURIED IN THIS BILL FOR THE COMMISSION? THEY WOULD ALLOW IT FOR A YEAR, BUT EXPIRE.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT, THAT DATE IS THAT THEY HAVE IN THERE NOW, BUT YES, THERE IS A, A DATE IN THERE FOR EXPIRATION OF THE COMMISSION.
I THINK THAT WAS WHAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH, UM, WITH THE SPONSOR.
YEAH, IT SAYS IN HERE, IT CONTINUES IT FOR FOUR YEARS, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S LESS THAN THAT.
SO LET ME CHECK ON WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY ENDED UP AMENDING IT TO.
UM, HOUSE BILL 28 0 8, UH, PUBLIC RECORDS TIMEFRAME.
UM, THIS IS THE, THE BILL THAT, UM, WOULD CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS TO COMPLY WITH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.
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WE'RE STILL TRYING TO KIND OF MUDDLE THROUGH THIS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE WITH THIS BILL.UM, BUT IT'S, WE, WE HAVE OPPOSED IT.
WE'VE, WE'VE SIGNED IN AN OPPOSITION, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE MOVING, IT PASSED OUTTA HOUSE GOVERNMENT AND THE, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT IN COMMITTEE, AND THEN IT ACTUALLY PASSED OUT OF THE FULL HOUSE BY A VOTE OF 57 TO ZERO.
SO CLEARLY PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A GOOD BILL AND THAT IT'S A NECESSARY BILL.
SO I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A FOCUS, UM, MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED TO, TO MAKE SOME MORE CHANGES TO IT.
OR, I THINK KURT LOOKED AT IT AND WE, WE DON'T THINK IT'S, WE DON'T REALLY THINK IT DOES ANYTHING.
SO, MAYOR, IF I COULD, DO WE ASK OUR LEGISLATORS WHEN THEY VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO THE LAY, WE ASK THEM TO, TO GIVE US A STATEMENT OR TALK TO US ABOUT WHY THEY VOTED A A DIFFERENT WAY? WE DON'T, UM, I, I MEAN, I THINK IF IT'S, IF IT'S A BIG ISSUE, WE DO SO ON SENATE BILL 1117, WHICH WE'LL GET TO THE HOUSING BILL, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WE WOULD ASK, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY VOTED A CERTAIN WAY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO REALLY DO MUCH.
UM, BUT 57 TO ZERO, OBVIOUSLY, OUR TWO MEMBERS OF OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION THINK THAT IT'S SOLVING A PROBLEM THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
SO I, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO JUST CHECK, CHECK IN.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE KIND OF BIGGER FISH TO FRY WITH THEM, BUT BE HAPPY TO, OR I CAN HAVE OUR LOBBYISTS CHECK IN AS WELL.
I JUST, I THINK I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT THEY KNOW WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION.
THIS IS, UH, THE, THE HOUSING BILL THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UM, TRACKING ALL SESSION.
UM, IT ACTUALLY WAS UP ON THE FLOOR THIS WEEK, UM, WITH A FLOOR AMENDMENT THAT LIMITED, IF YOU REMEMBER, A PORTION OF THE BILL WAS LIMITED TO POP COMMUNITIES OVER 25,000 THAT'S NOW BEEN INCREASED, 30,000.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE STILL THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE JUST, UM, JUST IMPACTFUL TO ALL CITIES, BUT ALSO TO OUR CITY AS WELL.
SO IT, UM, ACTUALLY FAILED ON THE SENATE FLOOR, UH, YESTERDAY.
AND THE FLOOR VOTE WAS JUST A, A PRETTY INTERESTING VOTE.
I DID REACH OUT TO SENATOR BENNETT BEFORE THE, THE VOTE, UM, AND ASKED HIM TO OPPOSE IT ON OUR BEHALF, AND HE DID, HE VOTED AGAINST IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO PASS THAT ON AS WELL.
AND SOME OF HIS OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE SOME BIG CONCERNS AS WELL.
I KNOW PRESCOTT HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL ON THIS BILL AS WELL.
SO, UM, IT'LL LIKELY COME BACK IN SOME FORM.
THE SPONSOR, SENATOR KAISER, IS VERY FOCUSED ON GETTING A HOUSING BILL THROUGH THIS SESSION, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, DEMOCRATS AND PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING AS WELL.
SO, WE'LL, THIS CONVERSATION IS NOT, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT OVER THIS SESSION, JOANNE.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT SENATOR KAISER, THE BILL SPONSOR, ENDED UP VOTING AGAINST THE BILL HIMSELF ON THE FLOOR YESTERDAY.
UM, I TH I, I'M UNCLEAR OF THE LOGIC OF THAT, BUT I THINK HE JUST SAW IT GOING DOWN, AND HE WANTED TO MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT HE WAS GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS AND WORK ON A COMPROMISE.
ALSO, I, I WILL SAY THAT THE CITIES AND TOWNS IN THE LEAGUE DID GET, UM, A LOT OF HEAT FOR, UM, KILLING THIS BILL.
SO IT WAS, UH, IT, THE, A LOT OF THE MEMBERS ON THE FLOOR WERE PRETTY VOCAL ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
THE MEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED IT WERE VOCAL.
THIS IS THE, UH, THE BILL THAT WAS REQUIRING US TO HAVE, UM, RESPONSE TIMES OF FIVE MINUTES, NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES, UM, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND IT'S NOW TURNED INTO A STUDY COMMITTEE, AND NOW IT'S, UM, PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S MOVED OUT OF, UM, SENATE COMMITTEE, AND IT'LL LIKELY BE UP ON A FLOOR VOTE.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE MOVING QUICKLY.
UM, SO WE'LL WATCH THAT AND, AND IF THERE IS A STUDY COMMITTEE, HOPEFULLY GET SOME GOOD RURAL, UM, MEMBERS ON THAT TO HELP WITH THAT DISCUSSION.
AND JOANNE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S
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ATTENTIONS WOULD BE TOWARDS SIGNING THAT OR NOT? I DO NOT.UM, I GUESS I, I TH IT PROBABLY DEPENDS HOW THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT IT.
UM, I CAN, I CAN CHECK AND GET BACK TO YOU.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THIS LEGISLATION LAST SESSION.
THIS IS THE, OR LAST WEEK, EXCUSE ME, OR TWO WEEKS AGO.
THIS IS THE GOLDWATER BILL THAT'S BEING PUSHED THIS SESSION, UM, DEALING WITH GRANTING A LICENSE OR PERMIT.
AND, UM, WE TALKED, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW UNCLEAR THE LANGUAGE WAS.
THEY'VE BEEN ABLE, THEY'VE BEEN UNABLE TO MOVE THE BILL.
THEY HAVEN'T, UM, BEEN ABLE TO GET AN AMENDMENT.
UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING, ANY MOVEMENT ON IT.
KURT, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE ATTORNEYS? SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE'RE HOPING AND ASSUMING THAT THIS BILL IS DEAD, BUT WE'LL KEEP WATCHING IT, WE DID SIGN IN AN OPPOSITION TO THIS ONE.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT WAS SO OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED BY THE HOUSE AGAIN? UM, COUNT OR VICE MAYOR PLU? I THINK THEY HAVE SO MANY BILLS COMING TO THEM THAT I JUST THINK THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T READ, READ IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, BUT I THINK THEY'VE GOT SO MANY THINGS COMING TO THEM THAT THINGS SLIP BY.
AND THEN ALSO, I THINK THE HOUSEHOLD, 28 0 8 IS ANOTHER ONE.
UH, SENATE BILL 1413, UM, COUNSEL DID OPPOSE THIS.
UM, THE LAST MEETING, UM, THIS IS THE, THE ONE THAT, UM, REQUIRES US TO REMOVE, UH, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.
UM, WERE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED IN COMMITTEE THAT WOULD, UM, REQUIRE CITIES AND TOWNS TO HOLD ONTO PROPERTY FOR 14 DAYS IF AN ENCAMPMENT IS NOT TIMELY REMOVED, AND ALSO REQUIRES A CITY OR TOWN TO PROVIDE A 24 HOUR REMOVAL NOTICE TO A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.
BOTH OF THOSE WERE AMENDMENTS, UM, BY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD, WHO WERE OPPOSING THE BILL INITIALLY.
UM, THE BILL DID MOVE OUT OF THE FULL SENATE 16 TO 12.
UM, AND SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE HOUSE SIDE, BUT I KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS A BILL THAT THE LEAGUE IS ALSO HEAVILY FOCUSED ON AS WELL, AND SOME OF THE LARGER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE GONNA BE REALLY IMPACTED BY THIS.
AND JOANNE, HOW ACTIVE ARE WE ON THIS BILL, OTHER THAN JUST REGISTERING? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTIVE ON? UM, WE HAVE, UH, JUST REGISTERED AN OPPOSITION TO IT.
UM, THAT, THAT'S REALLY ALL I, WE WANTED TO SEE IF IT MOVED OUT OF THE SENATE, BUT NOW THAT IT'S OVER IN THE HOUSE, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE ACTIVE ON IT AND BRING UP OUR CONCERNS.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ACTIVE ON THIS.
I THINK THIS IS A TERRIBLE BILL.
ANOTHER TERRIBLE BILL IS HOUSE BILL 2284.
UM, THIS IS, UM, THE ONE THAT REQUIRES, UM, ENFORCEMENT OF ANTICA CAMPING ORDINANCES AND PUTS US IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH, UM, THE MARTIN B BOISE AND THE JOHNSON, UM, GRANT'S PASS CASES.
WE, UM, WE HAVE LOGGED IN OPPOSED TO THIS.
AND ALSO, UM, I DID TALK TO OUR DELEGATION ABOUT THIS BILL AS WELL.
IT MOVED, UM, OUT OF THE OUTTA HOUSE, UM, COMMITTEE OF THE HOLE.
AND I'M NOT SURE, UM, WHAT THE VOTE WAS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S MOVED THIRD READ YET.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO WATCH THIS ONE AS WELL.
BUT ANOTHER, ANOTHER VERY, VERY CONCERNING BILL THAT I HOPE WOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR WOULD VETO IF IT COMES TO HER DESK.
THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE THAT WE, THE CITIES WOULD GO TO HER DIRECTLY FOR THAT.
UM, THE NEXT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THIS BILL LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, THE HOME-BASED BUSINESSES BILL THAT PUTS IN RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT CITIES AND TOWNS AND COUNTIES CAN DO TO REGULATE HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.
UM, THIS BILL, IT ACTUALLY, UM, MOVED OUT OF THE SENATE BY 16 TO 13.
THERE'S A LOT OF CLOSE VOTES ON THE SENATE SIDE.
UM, IT'S BEEN MOVED OVER TO THE HOUSE SIDE, AND, UM, IT'S BEEN HOUSE ASSIGNED TO HOUSE REGULATORY AFFAIRS.
AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A, UM, A HEARING SCHEDULED ON THIS, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE STAKEHOLDER, UM, MEETINGS.
AND THE LEAGUE HAS BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON, ON SOME AMENDMENTS WITH THE SPONSOR.
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UH, THE NEXT BILL IS THE CLARKDALE BRIDGE APPROPRIATION.UM, BOTH OF THOSE BILLS, UM, HAVE MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE, AND THE HOUSE VERSION ACTUALLY PASSED THIRD READ ON FEBRUARY 22ND, AND THEN ALSO PASSED OUT A SENATE, SENATE TRANSPORTATION.
SO THE HOUSE VERSION IS MOVING.
THE RUMOR IS THAT ON ALL OF THESE APPROPRIATION BILLS THAT THEY'RE ALL GONNA GET PARKED.
AND, UM, THEY'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, THIS IS ONE, THE HOUSING TRUST FUND, AND THEN I'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT BILL, AS WELL AS ANOTHER ONE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO ADDRESS THESE FUNDING BILLS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT, UM, OF APPROPRIATION BILLS THAT HAVE MOVED SEPARATELY THIS, THIS SESSION THAN, THAN I'VE SEEN.
UM, SO THAT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE PARKED, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY'LL, THEY'LL GET A BUDGET DONE SOON.
THIS IS THE, THE BILL THAT INCLUDES ALL THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE GREATER, UM, ARIZONA TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT RAC, UM, HAS REALLY BEEN RUNNING THIS, THIS SESSION.
THERE'S FUNDING IN THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, THE STATE WRITING 89, A FOREST ROAD AND RANGER ROAD PROJECT.
ABOUT 5 MILLION IS INCLUDED IN THAT BILL.
UM, IT DID PASS OUT OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND THEN ACTUALLY LAST WEEK, UM, AND I, I SENT A EMAIL TO COUNSEL MARCH 8TH.
IT PASSED OUT OF THE, THE FULL HOUSE, 50 TO EIGHT.
SO THAT WAS A, A REALLY GREAT VOTE AND GOOD NEWS, UM, THAT WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT FOR OUR RURAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
UM, THE CHARTER CITIES, THIS IS THE S C R BILL THAT'S GETTING QUITE A BIT OF, UM, PLAY IN THE NEWS.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT TAKES THE AUTHORITY AWAY FROM A CITY TO FORM A CHARTER CITY TO FORM AS A CHARTER CITY.
UM, AND WHILE WE'RE NOT A CHARTER CHARTER CITY, IT'S JUST ANOTHER BILL THAT TAKES AWAY LOCAL, UM, CONTROL AND DECISION MAKING.
THIS BILL, UM, IT FAILED ON SENATE THIRD READ, UM, BY 13 TO 17, AND THAT THERE WAS A MOTION TO CONSIDER IT PASSED, AND THEN IT PASSED ON THIRD READ BY A VOTE OF 16 TO 14.
SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO THOSE FEW VOTES WERE THAT CHANGED THEIR VOTE.
UM, BUT IT'S NOW ONTO THE, UM, THE HOUSE FOR CONSIDERATION.
WERE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS? NO AMENDMENTS? NO.
I'M GONNA SKIP OVER THE NEXT TWO.
UM, THIS IS THE ONE THAT, UH, AUTHORIZES A COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO PARTICIPATE IN WATER REUSE AND RECYCLING PROGRAMS AND REGIONAL WASTEWATER PROJECTS.
THIS IS, UM, TO ALLOW, UM, COUNTIES TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE WFA FUNDING.
AND, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT BY PINAL COUNTY, WHO'S ONE OF THEIR ATTORNEYS BELIEVED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND CURRENT STATUTE TO QUALIFY FOR THOSE FUNDING PROGRAMS. IT, UM, PASSED, UH, HOUSE THIRD READ 59 TO ZERO, AND IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO SENATE GOVERNMENT, AND WE HAVEN'T, UM, HAD A HEARING DATE SET FOR THAT.
BUT WE HAVE, I HAVE LOGGED IN OUR SUPPORT ON THAT BILL.
UM, THE NEXT BILL IS SENATE BILL 1541.
THIS IS A NEW BILL THAT, UM, THE LEAGUE IS SUPPORTING, UM, AND IT REQUIRES THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO ANNUALLY DEPOSIT 55% OF UNCLAIMED PROPERTY SALE MONIES INTO THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
AND IT ALLOTS, UM, 40% OF UNCLAIMED PROPERTY SALE MONIES DEPOSITED INTO THE HIGHWAY, NO, EXCUSE ME, HOUSING TRUST FUND TO BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ELIGIBLE AND VIABLE HOUSING IN RURAL AREAS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SHANNON, UH, SHANNON BROUGHT TO ME KINDA EARLIER, AND NOW THAT IT SEEMS TO BE GETTING SOME MOVEMENT, UM, I'D LIKE COUNSEL TO WEIGH IN AND SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION.
UM, AND STATUS, IT'S MOVED OUTTA SENATE APPROPRIATIONS, UM, AND OUTTA SENATE COMMERCE, AND IT'S A WAITING FLOOR ACTION.
UH, THE NEXT BILL IS HOUSE BILL 2094.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KINSELLA ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS ONE FORWARD.
UM, BUT IT'S A BILL THAT PROVIDES RESTRICTIONS ON CITIES OR TOWNS, UM, FOR REGULATING MOBILE FOOD VENDORS.
UM, IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT WE, UM, THAT WE CAN'T CHARGE
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FOR, LET ME GO BACK.IT ALLOWS FOOD TRUCK OPERATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SO THAT WOULD KIND OF OVERRIDE ANY, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT DECISIONS.
IT PRECLUDES ANY BACKGROUND CHECKS OF OPERATORS, AND IT ALSO, UM, PROHIBITS US FROM REQUIRING MOBILE, MOBILE FOOD VENDORS TO PAY MORE THAN $50 IN LICENSING FEES PER YEAR.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER, UM, BILL THAT TAKES AWAY OUR LOCAL CONTROL, AND THE LEAGUE HAS OPPOSED THIS BILL.
UM, AND I'D LIKE, UM, US TO ALSO OPPOSE THIS BILL.
UM, IT DID PASS OUT OF HOUSE REGULATORY AFFAIRS AND IT'S PASSED, UM, HOUSE THIRD READ BY A VOTE OF 31 TO 26.
UM, MOVING ON TO, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION.
WE ARE STILL IN THE SAME POSITION WE ARE IN, UM, WHEN WE DISCUSSED, UM, HOUSE BILL 2047 AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE MISSED ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR HOUSE BILL 2047 TO MOVE AS A STANDALONE BILL.
UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH REPRESENTATIVE BLISS, WHO HAS JUST BEEN A WONDERFUL SUPPORTER OF US AND OUR ISSUES.
AND, UM, PAUL, OUR, UM, LOBBYIST IS CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE SPEAKER AND THE SPEAKER'S OFFICE ON, ON SOME LANGUAGE.
UM, WE'VE ALIGNED WITH, UH, LAKE HAVASU CITY.
WE ACTUALLY HAD THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR GO DOWN AND MEET WITH THE SPEAKER, AND THE MAYOR OF LAKE HAVASU CITY WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING.
AND IT WAS A VERY IMPACTFUL MEETING.
AND I THINK BOTH THE SPEAKER AND HIS, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF CAME AWAY KIND OF UNDERSTANDING, UM, THE DIFFERENCE THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS, THE IMPACT IT HAS ON SMALLER RURAL COMMUNITIES THAN IT DOES ON, UM, LARGER COMMUNITIES.
SO WE'RE, UM, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND, UM, I TALKED TO PAUL YESTERDAY AND HE'S CONTINUING TO HAVE PRETTY REGULAR MEETINGS ON THIS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME, WITH SOME LANGUAGE.
SO, JOANNE, LET ME JUST ADD TO THAT, IF I CAN.
GO OVER WHAT THE VICE MAYOR AND I DID NOW, IT'S NOW GOING ON TWO WEEKS.
UH, WE WERE INVITED DOWN WITH THE LAKE HAVASU CITY MAYOR, AND, UH, SPEAKER TOK GAVE US ALMOST AN HOUR OF TIME.
I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL TIME ALLOTTED WAS 15 MINUTES.
IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? I THINK IT WAS MORE THAN THAT, BUT HE DEFINITELY GAVE MORE THAN THE ALLOTTED TIME, BUT THEY KEPT TRYING TO GET HIM TO COME OUT AND CLOSE OUT THE SESSION MM-HMM.
BUT ASIDE FROM US JUST GOING DOWN AND HAVING OUR SAY AND HIS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER HE LISTENED OR NOT, I WENT, I HAD LESS THAN 24 HOURS TO GRAB SOME INFORMATION WITH ME.
AND I, I, I CONTACTED, UH, DIFFERENT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, IMPACTFUL PEOPLE SUCH AS OUR SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT, UH, THE COTTONWOOD MAYOR, UH, KYLE LAWSON FROM THE RED ROCK NEWS, UH, BRENDA TAMARINE FROM OUR, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES HERE IN THE SEDONA, THE FIRE CHIEF OF SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT.
AND JOSH TINK FROM NORTHERN A ARIZONA DONOR HEALTHCARE, WHO PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE IMPACTING EACH OF THEIR, UH, BUSINESSES OR, UH, ORGANIZATION AND HOW, ESPECIALLY JOSH TALKED ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO HIRE DOCTORS OR KEEP DOCTORS, THE FIRE DISTRICT NOT BEING ABLE TO, UH, HAVE FIREFIGHTERS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT ALSO NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP TEACHERS HERE.
AND I, I GAVE THE SPEAKER THIS PACKET HERE THAT I HAVE COPIED FOR YOU.
HE READ IT AND HE READ IT, AND HE READ IT.
HE ACTUALLY, WELL, THUMB THREW IT, BUT I'M, I'M HOPING IT WOULD'VE MADE AN IMPACT IF I WOULD'VE HAD A WEEK'S TIME.
I PROBABLY WOULD'VE, COULD'VE GOTTEN A HUNDRED LETTERS LIKE THIS FROM BUSINESSES AS WELL.
UH, WHAT I CAME AWAY WITH, AND I, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION GOING ON, IS THAT SPEAKER TOMA HAS TIES TO FAMILIES MEMBERS WERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
HE'S A REALTOR, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION, UH, STATEWIDE LOBBYISTS ARE, UH, TRYING TO ELIMINATE THIS BILL TO PUT A CAP ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
ALSO, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE SPEAKERS SAY HIS BROTHER OWNED THE JUNI PINE RESORT.
NO, NOT OWNED THE JUNI PINE RESORT.
NO, I THINK IT WAS A, UM, IT WAS A CONDO.
NOT, NOT THE, THE WHOLE RESORT.
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WAS IMPACTFUL, AND HE WAS VERY CLEAR, WAS THAT HIMSELF AND HIS CHIEF OF STAFF, I FORGET HIS NAME, UH, MICHAEL, MICHAEL, HELP CRAFT THE ORIGINAL SHORT TERM RENTAL BILL.SO THEY HAVE A STAKE IN SEEING, YOU KNOW, 1350 MOVE FORWARD AND NOT BE TOUCHED.
UM, OH, AND THEN MICHAEL CAME FROM THE GOLDWATER INSTITUTE.
SO, UM, THEY WERE VERY, THE SPEAKER WAS NOT THERE AT THE TIME WHEN THIS BILL WAS CRAFTED, SO HE WAS NOT PART OF THAT.
IT WAS, BUT MICHAEL WORKED AT THE GOLDWATER INSTITUTE DURING THIS TIME WHEN THIS BILL WAS CRAFTED.
BUT THE SPEAKER WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT HE HAD, HE WAS PART OF THE CRAFTING OF THE BILL.
HE WASN'T A SPEAKER, HE WASN'T, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, NO.
BUT THE FACT OF THAT HIS CHIEF OF STAFF MICHAEL, WAS SO, UM, I'M JUST HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE VERY SINCERE.
THEY WEREN'T BLOWING US OFF AT ALL.
THEY LISTENED TO US AND THEY DISCUSSED BACK AND FORTH, UH, THE MAYOR OF LAKE HAVASU CITY WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL, AS WELL AS WAS JOANNE, WHO I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING THERE WITH US, AS WAS PAUL, OUR LOBBYIST.
WE WERE ALL ABLE TO ENGAGE AND EVEN THE, UH, LOBBYISTS FOR LAKE HAVASU CITY ALSO ENGAGED.
AND IT WAS A GOOD GIVE AND TAKE DISCUSSION.
SO I'M HOPING THAT MOVING FORWARD SOMETHING WILL CHANGE.
MAYOR, CAN I ALSO ADD THAT, UM, THANKS TO THE VICE MAYOR, WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO MEET WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND, AND HAD A THANK YOU.
A GREAT CONVERSATION ON SENATE BILL 1117 AND ALSO ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUE, WHICH, UM, I THINK WAS AN INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION AS WELL.
UH, BUT YES, THAT WE, I APPRECIATE THE VICE MAYOR SETTING THAT UP, AND THAT WAS IMPACTFUL AND IT WAS, UM, VERY OPEN AND, UM, IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT.
I JUST GOT A, AN EMAIL ABOUT TOMORROW, YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING IN COTTONWOOD TO HEAR A REQUEST TO CHANGE OUR VOTING SYSTEM.
SO FUTURE VOTERS WILL HAVE TO VOTE ONLY IN THEIR PRECINCTS RATHER THAN AT A VOTE CENTER, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW KURT, IS THAT SOMETHING A LOCAL JURISDICTION AT THIS POINT? CAN, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON TOPIC FOR THIS, FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
OH, IT ISN'T, IT'S NOT STATE LEGISLATION IS IT? THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT VIOLATES STATE LEGISLATION.
AND, AND JOANNE, I MUST HAVE MISSED AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT OUR BILL FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN, HAS THAT BEEN ASSIGNED? IT, IT DIDN'T SHOW, IT HAD BEEN ASSIGNED TO A COMMITTEE AND YOU HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT MIGHT FACE, UH, SOME HEADWINDS IN THE SENATE.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE IT WENT THROUGH THE HOUSE PRETTY EASILY AND PRETTY QUICKLY CONSIDERING IT DID.
SO, UH, IT, IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO SENATE GOVERNMENT, UM, WHICH I'VE BEEN TOLD IS A PRETTY TOUGH COMMITTEE ON THE SENATE SIDE.
UM, SO I THINK WHEN, WHEN WE DO GET THE HEARING, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A STRATEGY ON WHO, WHO'S TESTIFYING.
UM, AND SINCE IT IS TECHNICALLY A LEAGUE RESOLUTION, A LEAGUE BILL, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY, UM, BRING SOMEBODY IN WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE AND, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A, A PRETTY TOUGH COMMITTEE TO GET BILLS THROUGH THIS SESSION, BUT IT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED, BUT IT HASN'T, BUT NO, NO HEARING DATE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS NOW, OR TWO PLUS WEEKS.
SO WE'RE HOPING FOR NEXT WEEK.
NEXT WEDNESDAY, I BELIEVE IS THE DATE.
IF WE COULD JUST CHECK, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, KATHY OR JESSICA HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
I HEARD JUST SOMETHING, COUNSELORS ONLINE, ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY, THEN LET'S MOVE ON.
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OKAY.ITEM E REPORT DISCUSSION REGARDING COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.
OKAY, PETE, YOU GOT HAVE THE MOST, SO YOU HAVE NOTHING.
YEAH, I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU THIS WEEK.
[8.f. Discussion regarding ideas for future meeting/agenda items.]
F DISCUSSION REGARDING IDEAS OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE ONE.IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO DO WATCH FIRST.
UH, I, UH, SPOKE WITH KAREN, UH, YESTERDAY AND, UH, WAS THINKING ABOUT, UH, SHERRY'S PRESENTATION TO US OF OUR SALES, MONTHLY SALES TAX DATA.
AND I THINK THERE'S A RICH CONVERSATION TO BE, BE HAD IN THAT DATA.
AND I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER PERHAPS HAVING, IT ACTUALLY AGENDAS FOR A CONVERSATION, PERHAPS ONCE A QUARTER OR SO.
I KNOW THAT WE TAKE IT UP IN THE BUDGET SESSION, BUT IT'S BURIED AMONGST EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE BUDGET, UM, AND AT OUR STRATEGY SESSION.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF BURIED AMONGST LOTS OF STUFF.
AND I THINK THERE COULD BE A, A RICH CONVERSATION TO HAVE ABOUT HOW OUR ECONOMY IS REALLY DOING BY BRINGING THIS PERHAPS ONCE A QUARTER.
MR. MAYOR, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE CITY MANAGER'S UH, TAKE ON THAT? I BELIEVE KAREN WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA OF DOING THAT.
I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE, MR. MAYOR.
WOULD THAT TAKE STAFF TIME OR, OKAY.
THEN, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF.
AND THEN WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UH, IS I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FORM A, UH, CITY MANAGER COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT, UH, PROVIDING AN, ISSUING A KEY TO THE CITY, UH, TO HIGHLY REGARDED OR WHATEVER, CUZ THE COMMITTEE HAS TO DECIDE, UH, RESIDENTS AND BE, HAVE THEM BE RECOGNIZED IN SOME WAY AND POSSIBLY WITH A KEY TO THE CITY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT'S INVOLVED IN ISSUING SOME OF THE KEY TO THE CITY AND, UM, HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE REALLY THINKING ABOUT, BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO, UM, LIKE YOU DID, UH, RECOGNITION TODAY.
UM, SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING A PROCLAMATION, A RECCO, YOU KNOW, RECOGNITION, UM, A KEY TO THE CITY? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO FORM A, HAVE THE CITY MANAGER, UH, APPOINT, UH, THREE PEOPLE TO VET THAT OUT, SEE WHAT IT LOOK WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE AND ALL, I MEAN, ART PEOPLE, UH, BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO DO JUST, THEY HAVE A LIFELONG CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND, AND LET PEOPLE HEAR WHAT'S BEING, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND JUST HIGHLIGHT THEM ABOVE.
TODAY WITH ED, THAT WAS A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE.
I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ISSUE HIM A KEY TO THE CITY, BUT WE GAVE HIM THAT, UH, A KEY KEY TO THE CITY.
I, WHAT'S THAT, JESSICA? WHAT? I, I LOST YOU.
I CAN'T SEEM TO GET BACK, SO, OKAY.
I, I SEEM TO HAVE SCREWED THIS UP SOMEHOW.
I, I THOUGHT YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
I WAS, I WAS B******G AT MY COMPUTE.
SO, UM, KAREN HAD SOMETHING TO KAREN.
DID YOU WANT TO HAVE THINK WE, THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE FULL DISCUSSION.
NO, WE'RE NOT AND QUITE, BUT, BUT I DO THINK THAT, UM, BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, I CAN GATHER ENOUGH INFORMATION TO RE AGENDIZE THIS FOR A, A FULLER CONVERSATION, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR IN THE FUTURE.
A LOT OF ADDITIONAL STAFF EFFORT.
OH, SO, UM, WHILE I WAS AWAY, ONE OF THE SPECIAL, UH, COUNCIL SESSIONS WAS ON THE ARABELLA SPA.
UM, I WAS NOT ABLE AT THAT POINT TO, UM, CONTRIBUTE MY THOUGHTS NOR VOTE ON THE ISSUE.
SO I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK FOR RECONSIDERATION AND VOTE SO THAT MY VOICE CAN BE HEARD.
COULD, UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL PURSUANT TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, ANY COUNSELOR AFTER 60 DAYS CAN, UH, MOVE TO HAVE AN ITEM RECONSIDERED.
UM, IT HASN'T QUITE BEEN 60 DAYS YET, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A COUPLE MORE DAYS TO BE 60 IF, BUT IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THEN WE WOULD JUST SCHEDULE THAT AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.
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UM, INCLUDING DOING PUBLIC OUTREACH AND, UH, SCHEDULING FOR PUBLIC HEARING.AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL, SO.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MEETING HERE, UH, TOMORROW, THREE O'CLOCK, WHICH WOULD BE HOPEFULLY VERY INFORMATIVE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? HEARING NOTHING MEETING IS ADJOURNED.