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CALL THIS MEETING TO[Historic Preservation Commission on April 10, 2023.]
ORDER OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.UM, IT'S APRIL 10TH, 20 TH 23.
AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE PLEDGE'S BEHIND THIS.
WHERE'S THE, THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND US.
PLEDGE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES, STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? NATION INVISIBLE.
ON CANNOT, CAN I HAVE ROLL, ROLL CALL DONNA, PLEASE.
SO WE ARE, I NEED TO HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT OFFENSE EVENTS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, CYNTHIA? NO.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS? I'M SORRY.
I JUST HAVE ONE INFORMAL KIND OF PERSONAL, JUST TURN THIS OFF.
AND THAT IS AT, UH, AFTER CREATING AND THEN SERVING AS A PROGRAM MANAGER FOR 17 YEARS.
I OFFICIALLY RETIRED TODAY FROM THE SEDONA VOLUNTEER PARK RANGERS.
SO I CAN DEVOTE MORE TIME TO THIS.
AND WELL, AND I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE RETIRING, THOUGH.
THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A DIFFICULT DECISION.
BUT WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING FOR US, AND, UH, WE HOPE WE WE'RE NOT GONNA OVERWHELM YOU NOW
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR SERVICES TOO.
AND ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THEY HAVE TO MAKE TODAY? OKAY.
SO THEN, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS AS APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING MINUTES FOR MARCH 13TH, 2023.
UM, DO I HAVE EVERYBODY'S VOTE TO, I HAVE.
WE CAN JUST, MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, I KEEP DOING THAT, DON'T I? THAT'S TERRIBLE.
WE CAN, WE, CAN WE, UH, THE, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
UM, I SEE WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN OUR AUDIENCE.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BRING SOMETHING UP THAT ISN'T ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE? YES.
UM, JANINE TRAIAN, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE.
I'M ASSUMING WE STILL NEED JANINE TRAIAN AND I LIVE IN THE SIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF SEDONA.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION, UH, CUZ I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, UH, THAT I HAVE, UH, PERSONALLY MADE A REQUEST THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER ADDING THE, UH, WALTER AND GEORGE JORDAN PUMP STATION UP BY THERAPY IN THE ROCKS ON 89 A, UH, AS A LOCAL DESIGNATED HISTORIC LANDMARK.
UM, A DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PRODUCED AND, AND PROVIDED TO STAFF, UM, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHY IT WAS BUILT, HOW IT FUNCTIONED, THE FACT THAT THERE IS EXISTING EQUIPMENT STILL ON SITE.
MOST OF THE STRUCTURE, PART OF THE STRUCTURE, UH, INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT A FUNCTIONING WATER SYSTEM, UH, EXIST.
UH, THERE'S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF, UM, RESEARCH ON HOW IT FUNCTIONED AND, AND WHAT IT MEANT TO THIS PLACE LOCALLY, HISTORICALLY, UH, FOR IMPORTANCE.
UM, AND THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.
I E IDENTIFYING THE EXACT PROPERTY OWNER.
IT'S IN ONE OF THOSE LOVELY LITTLE GRAY LANDS WHERE IT COULD BE CITY, IT COULD BE A DOT, OR IT COULD BE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, UH, LOOKED AT THERE BEFORE WE COULD START A FORMAL PROCESS IN MAKING SURE AN OWNER IS INVOLVED MM-HMM.
BUT I DID WANNA JUST TAKE A, A QUICK MOMENT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THAT STRUCTURE IS SITTING THERE.
UM, IF WE CAN, ESPECIALLY DEPENDING ON WHO THE OWNER IS, IT MIGHT BE A
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RELATIVELY EASY, UM, PROCESS MM-HMM.BUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A SMALL STRUCTURE, UM, AND THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IN ANY WAY TAKING ANYBODY'S RIGHTS PROBABLY, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL FOOTPRINT, UM, AND IN SUCH AN ODD LOCATION HANGING OFF THE SIZE OF A CLIFF.
SO UNLESS THERE ARE PLANS TO CHANGE THE CLIFF.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY, UM, NOT LIKE RIGHT IN THE PATH OF DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
GRANTED, WE CAN'T ALL SEE INTO THE FUTURE WITH THE FUTURE MIGHT BE FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION OR ANY LOCATION THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MIGHT CONSIDER.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO SAY THAT THAT'S OUT THERE AND I HOPE YOU WILL BE, UM, GETTING BACK TO ME AT SOME POINT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED AND WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED SO THAT I CAN PREPARE ANY OTHER MATERIALS OR INFORMATION THAT YOU MIGHT NEED IN ORDER TO PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA AT SOME POINT.
AND, UM, I MIGHT ASK FOR ONE THING, AND THAT WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP SIDE, IS IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SUPPORT OR SIGN OF SUPPORT, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE CITY, UH, WHETHER THAT BE THEIR GIS DEPARTMENT OR THROUGH CYNTHIA IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OR WHICHEVER DEPARTMENT THE CITY SAYS IS CORRECT TO SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY FIND THAT PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO KICK KICK OFF DISCUSSIONS FROM THERE.
IS IS THAT ON THE LOMA KASI PROPERTY? NO, NO, NO.
AND I THINK, UM, BASICALLY ON THE ROCKS, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY ONLY, UM, BEING BROUGHT TO US AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA, SO WE REALLY CAN'T DISCUSS IT.
BUT, UM, I'M, I'M SURE WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR AGENDA FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU JANINE, FOR BRINGING THAT TO US.
I THINK I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT BEFORE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SO WE'LL GO ON TO NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS, UH, REGULAR BUSINESS.
AND WE NEED AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE RANGERS STATION PARK DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND I GUESS I'LL HAND IT OVER HERE TO YOU.
I AM THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA AND OUR CO-PROJECT MANAGER, UH, OF THE PROJECT WITH SANDY PHILLIPS, OUR PUBLIC WORKS ASSISTANT, UH, DIRECTOR.
AND, UM, WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PARK LOCATED AT TWO 50 BREWER ROAD.
UH, THE RANGER STATION, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1905.
UH, THE RANGER STATION HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1917 AND A STANDARD, UH, FOREST SERVICE PLAN FOR A THREE, UH, THREE ROOM RANGER DWELLING.
UM, THE CITY PURCHASED, UH, THE PARCEL, UH, IN 2014.
IT'S A 3.4 ACRE PARCEL, UM, WHICH INCLUDES THE HOUSE AND THE HISTORIC BARN.
UM, I HAVE A PARTICULAR PASSION FOR THIS PROJECT AS SINCE I STARTED WITH THE CITY IN TWO THOU, UH, 2020, UH, THIS WAS THE FIRST PROJECT AND, UM, I WAS DIRECTED TO, UH, COMPLETE THE PRESERVATION OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE AND BARN.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S A LABOR OF LOVE.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS PROJECT.
SO NOW THAT WE'RE THROUGH THAT PART, UH, WE ARE MOVED.
AND YOU'VE WORKED ADJACENT TO IT? OH, YES.
AND I DID, I WAS THE CHIEF ENGINEER AT LOS SALGADO'S RESORT FOR 10 YEARS PRIOR TO COMING TO WORK FOR THE CITY.
SO I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE RANGER STATION QUITE IN A WHILE,
UM, SO, UM, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS OUR MASTER PLAN, AND I BELIEVE SANDY WILL BE TAKING IT FROM HERE.
SO, UH, THIS SHOWS WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE AND IT SHOWS WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT CYNTHIA HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH SINCE 2014.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE, UM, MAIN GOALS ON THIS WAS WALKING PATH, PICNIC TABLES, BENCHES, SWINGS, UH, PLAY FEATURE PICKLEBALL, COURTS, HISTORIC INTERPRETATION INFORMATION, ART MURALS AND SCULPTURES.
THERE WAS COMMENTS THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE NO PICKLEBALL.
UM, SO THE COMPLETED PROJECTS TO DATE ARE, UM, THE DEMOLITION OF THE NON HISTORIC STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS COMPLETED WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED IN 2014.
UH, 2017, WE HAD HAZARDOUS MATERIAL AND ABATEMENT.
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UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, THERE WAS A DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME THERE THAT I BELIEVE WAS PUT IN SOMETIME IN THE SEVENTIES OR EIGHTIES, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.UH, BUT THAT HAS SINCE BEEN REMOVED.
UM, IN 2018, THE PARTIAL BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PATH WAS, UH, BUILT, UM, ALONG WITH BRINGING IN THE CITY SEWER AND, OH S**T, I GOT THAT TURNED OFF.
I THOUGHT IT WAS TURNED OFF AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, OH SHOOT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OFF NOW.
SO STARTING FROM THE NORTH YEAH.
I'M SORRY, I'M TURNING THIS OFF RIGHT NOW.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON, BUT IT WAS HOT.
THE PEDESTRIAN PATH ACTUALLY STARTS AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY AND RUN RUNS UP JUST BEHIND, UH, THE HISTORIC BARN.
UM, 2020, UH, WE BROUGHT IN A NEW COMMERCIAL ELECTRICAL SERVICE, UH, DUE TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HPC THAT THE OVERHEAD LINES WERE UNSIGHTLY.
UH, SO THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
SO WE HAVE POWER FOR THE PARK.
UH, THE HOUSE AND THE BARN CURRENTLY HAVE POWER.
UH, AND THEN THE EXISTING SPACE IN THE ELECTRICAL SWITCHING GEAR WILL BE FOR THE PROPOSED PUBLIC RESTROOM.
UM, 2022, THE BARN AND HOUSE EXTERIOR RENOVATION WAS COMPLETED THROUGH, UH, SEVERAL CONTRACTORS.
UH, THE FIRST BEING A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, BILL RALSTON CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN ALSO LOVE AND CONSTRUCTION OUT OF FLAGS.
UM, SO MOVING INTO FISCAL YEAR 23 AND 24, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT COMPLETING THE BUILD OUT OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
SO YES, THE, UM, PART OF THE CHANGE WAS THE BREWER LOS SALGADO'S DRIVEWAY CONNECTION THAT TOOK THE PLACE OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
PART OF, UM, WHAT WE FOUND SINCE THE MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETED IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS WAS THERE'S A FEMA FLOODPLAIN THAT GOES THROUGH THIS AREA.
AND SO THE DRAINAGE AND THE, UM, ACCOMMODATING THAT DRAINAGE WAS NOT SHOWN ON THE MASTER PLAN.
SO THAT'S PART OF SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE HAD TO MAKE AND, UM, BECAME VERY OBVIOUS WITH THE RAINS BALL EVENTS.
I PERSONALLY, WE'VE GOT THAT OFFICE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM RANGER WHERE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS.
AND SO, UM, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT THERE AND PUT SOME CONES AND, UH, MAKE SURE PEOPLE DIDN'T GET CAUGHT IN THE WATER THAT WAS TOPPING OVER BREWER ROAD AND GOING ACROSS THE PARK.
SO HERE WE'VE GOT SIDE BY SIDE.
SO THE MASTER PLAN TWO REFLECTS THE, THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAS ADDED TO HELP MITIGATE TRAFFIC IN THE Y AND, AND THE ROUNDABOUTS.
UM, THE INTENT OF THAT, I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE GONE THROUGH IS TO HELP, UM, LOS ABOGADOS RESIDENTS GO OUT THROUGH BREWER AND HOPEFULLY, UH, MINIMIZE OR HELP REDUCE THE MASTER PLAN.
NUMBER THREE ON, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE CHANGES.
SO WHAT'S BEEN ADDED IS, UM, WHAT I CALL CASCADING BASINS.
IS THIS A POINTER ON THE TOP? OOPS.
SO YEAH, SO THIS IS WHERE, OR I CAN GO UP THERE ALSO, BUT, SO WE'RE REDIRECTING THE FLOW DOWN THROUGH THIS AREA NOW.
SO WHAT WAS KIND OF AN OPEN SPACE HERE? YOU'VE GOT THE PLAYGROUND AND THEN THIS IS A DEMONSTRATION GARDEN.
SO THOSE WERE MOVED UP HERE MM-HMM.
AND THIS IS A GREEN SPACE HERE THAT'S BEEN MAINTAINED.
NOW THIS IS QUITE A BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS PLANNED, BUT UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE MOVED THE PLAY AREA CUZ THE PLAY AREA NEEDS TO BE WITH THE POSSE, GROUND PLAY GROUND THAT WE'VE PUT IN.
WE'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND HAVE THE PLAYGROUND UP HERE NEXT TO THE ADA PARKING BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE ALL ADA ACCESSIBLE.
WE ALSO NEED THE, UM, ADA SPOTS NEXT TO THE RESTROOM.
WE ALSO WANNA HAVE, UM, ADA ACCESS TO BOTH THE BARN.
SO, UM, WE'VE PUSHED SOME THINGS AROUND FROM THIS PLAN TOO.
SO THIS WAS A, A CONCEPT PLAN AFTER WALKING THE FIELD WITH THE ENGINEER AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UM, LOOKING ON THE GROUND.
CUZ WHAT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES WITH A MASTER PLAN IS IT'S REALLY GOOD FROM AN AERIAL HIGH ELEVATION, BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN ON THE GROUND, YOU FIND OUT THAT THIS CORNER DOWN HERE NEXT TO THE DRIVE IS QUITE STEEP.
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UM, AND WE'VE GOT SOME GRADES ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BARN THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR ADA.SO REALLY IT'S ONLY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE NORTH.
SO THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT CAME INTO THAT WE NEEDED TO TWEAK WHILE WE WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
SO THIS IS A, A SKETCH, UM, OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THIS ONE.
SO, UM, BACK IN 2015 WHEN WE DID OUR, UH, PUBLIC OUTREACH, WE'D PUT A 10 FOOT SHARED USE PATH IN HERE, UM, LIKE LARRY SAID, FROM THE NORTH SIDE.
BUT, UM, THE INTENT, UH, AND BASED ON MY CONVERSA OUR CONVERSATION WITH CYNTHIA AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS THE DESIRE WAS TO HAVE A LOOP.
AND SO WE'VE MADE SURE THAT THAT IS A, UH, 10 FOOT SHARED USE, UH, STABILIZED GRANITE PATH THAT WILL LOOP THE ENTIRE PARK.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW ON THIS.
SO THIS IS GONNA, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE AHEAD, UM, TO CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'VE DECREASED THE SIZE OF THE PLAYGROUND.
WE KNOW THAT THE, UH, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THAT NOT LIKE POSSE GROUND, SO IT'S NOT, UM, BRIGHT AND SHINY.
IT'S MORE HISTORIC AND, UH, RUSTIC.
WE'VE ENLARGED THE GRASS AREA, UH, HAD TO MAINTAIN THIS CASCADING DETENTION AREA AND IT ALSO HELPS BENEFIT THE LOS ABOGADOS AND, AND OUR NEIGHBORS DOWN HERE.
UM, WE'VE MADE THAT 10 FOOT SHARED USE PATH, A LOOP THAT'LL GO AROUND THE PARK.
SO IT'LL BE A, A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A VERY NICE, HEALTHY, AND I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, PROBABLY CEDAR, IS IT A JUNIPER RIGHT HERE IN THIS CORNER.
SO WE'RE MOVING THE PATH OVER JUST TO MAINTAIN THAT.
AND THERE'S SOME HISTORIC, UH, FENCING IN THIS AREA.
SO WE'RE MOVING THE PATH OVER A LITTLE BIT TO, UM, KEEP THE FOLIAGE AND SOME OF THE LARGE SHADE TREES THAT WE CAN SO QUICK.
SO I HAD TOUCHED ON THE MASTER PLAN AND SOME OF THE MAIN, UH, FOCUS ITEMS. AND SO THIS PLAN THAT, UM, WE'RE SUGGESTING TO MOVE AHEAD WITH STILL MAINTAINS THE HAR THE HOUSE AND BARN AS A, UH, MULTIPURPOSE COMMUNITY RENTAL SPACE AS A POTENTIAL.
AGAIN, THE USE OF THOSE STRUCTURES IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS CYNTHIA CAME OUT LAST WEEK AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THIS IS A PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO START GETTING SOME PARKING START TO, TO GET A FEEL FOR IT, SEE HOW WE CAN SEE HOW THE USES ARE.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADD AS WE MOVE ALONG AND FIND OUT WHAT WORKS AND, AND WHAT'S, UM, THE RESIDENTS LOVE.
SO THE OPEN LAWN, WE'RE, WE, WE STILL HAVE THE OPEN LAWN AREA.
UM, WE'VE GOT THE WALKING PATH FOR THE PARK AMENITIES, THE PICNIC TABLES AND BENCHES.
WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING SOME OF THOSE IN, BUT, UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOMETHING PARKS AND REC.
UM, WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE DONATE AND HAVE PLAQUES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SWINGS AND THE PLAY FEATURES RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THOSE IN.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST GONNA BE AN OPEN AREA, UM, UNTIL WE GET A NEW PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR THAT'LL COORDINATE WITH CYNTHIA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE RIGHT FEEL FOR THAT.
UM, PICKLEBALL COURTS, AS WE SAID, HAD, UM, GONE AWAY WITH THE, THE ROAD FOR TRAFFIC MITIGATION AND THE HISTORIC INTERPRETATION INFORMATION AND THE ART MURALS AND SCULPTURES.
THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, I DID, UH, ON THE DESIGN FEATURE, SO GREEN BUILDING ENERGY AND WATER EFFICIENT.
SO WE ARE PUTTING A RESTROOM IN, IT WILL HAVE HOT WATER.
UM, WE'RE CONNECTING THE SEWER AND THE WATER TO IT.
UM, BUT THAT'S ONLY STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND THAT WILL HAVE, UM, SIMILAR SIDING AND LOOK TO THE, THE BARN IN THE HOUSE.
SO THAT WAY IT'S, UH, A GOOD FIT.
THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING PLANTS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NATURAL LOCAL LANDSCAPE.
THAT'S WHAT, UM, WE'VE GOT ON OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.
I HAVE A CHECK FOR THE ORCHARD TREES, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT IN THE PLAN.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT ON THIS CURRENT PLAN, SO THAT'S MY MISTAKE.
SO, UM, SO I MET WITH THE SEDONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY ON THE PROPERTY, BUT PRIMARILY TO TALK ABOUT THE USE OF THE STRUCTURES.
AND I ALSO MET WITH A NUMBER OF YOUR, YOU MEMBERS ALSO PRIMARILY TO TALK ABOUT THE USE OF THE STRUCTURES.
UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME OUTREACH TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU ENVISION FOR THIS AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD
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LIKE TO SEE.SO CURRENTLY OUR SCHEDULE IS WE'RE OUT TO BID.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE GOT OUR CITY MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT'S GONNA BE DOING INSTALLING IN IRRIGATION ON THE NORTH, WHICH IS AROUND THE HOUSE.
I ALSO, WE ALSO HAVE OUR CITY MAINTENANCE TEAM INSTALLING THE SHARED USE PATH THAT GOES ALONG, UH, BREWER ROAD.
SO, UM, THIS PROJECT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS A PRIORITY TO COUNCIL.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO, TO MOVE PARTS AHEAD AS WE CAN.
SO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING FINALIZED PLANS IN, UH, DEPENDING ON FEEDBACK WE RECEIVE TODAY, WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THOSE FINAL PLANS OUT TO THE CONTRACTORS, GETTING BIDS IN JUNE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY MOVING AHEAD ON THIS PROJECT JULY, AUGUST.
WELL, UM, I'M, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THE RESTROOMS, YOU'RE GOING TO SORT OF MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE THEY BLEND IN MM-HMM.
THEY NEED TO SORT OF NOT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE THERE WHEN THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT, SO, OKAY.
WE, WE NEED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, USUALLY YOU CAN USE THE SAME MATERIALS, BUT YOU, THE STRUCTURE HAS TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE MORE CONTEMPORARY, UM, THAT, THAT'S JUST SORT OF MANDATORY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE, THE PROPERTY AND DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN WHAT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER AND WHAT HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE.
AND IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, BUT IT JUST HAS TO BE SOMETHING WHERE, UM, WHERE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU APPROACH IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS THERE ALWAYS BECAUSE IT WASN'T.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, YEAH.
CAN THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED BY USING THE SAME TYPES OF MATERIAL BUT USING A DIFFERENT COLOR? LIKE YEAH.
OR MEANING THE, THE BOARDS GRAY OR SOMETHING.
SO THEY'RE NOT WHITE AND THEY'RE NOT INDICATING ON ANY MAPS THAT THAT IS AN ADDED STRUCTURE.
AND, AND MAYBE JUST THE, THE STRUCTURE OF HOW, HOW THE ROOF LOOKS IN TERMS OF THE SHAPE WITH IT.
JUST, JUST TO, TO BREAK IT FROM THAT.
I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE THEY MAKE IT RADICAL.
I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO GO RADICAL, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO DELINEATE BETWEEN WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY AND WHAT WASN'T.
IT'S JUST PART OF WHAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION YOU, YOU COULD MAKE IT AND PUT A METAL ROOF ON IT.
YOU KNOW, JUST THAT WAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE A DIFFERENCE.
AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY DELINEATE IT FROM THE OTHER SPACE.
UM, YOU COULD EVEN ACTUALLY, YOU COULD, AT THAT STAGE YOU COULD PROBABLY PAINT IT THE SAME COLOR, BUT IF THE ROOF WAS DIFFERENT AND THE SHAPE WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS, AS LONG AS WE HAVE A SORT OF A DELINEATION BETWEEN WHAT WAS THERE, AND YOU CAN COME BACK TO US AND TALK TO ANY ONE OF US AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A, A SKETCH OF IT, AND WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT.
IT'S NOT REALLY A DIFFICULT THING.
SO IF YOU'RE HAVING AN ARCHITECT ACTUALLY DRAW THAT UP, THAT WOULD BE JUST SOMETHING THAT I'D MENTIONED TO THEM.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE HAVING ACTUALLY DO THAT FOR YOU, BUT THERE ARE ARCHITECTS THAT SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, AN, UH, HISTORIC BUILDING AND A NON HISTORIC BUILDING AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY, HOW YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DELINEATE THAT.
SO THIS WHAT'S PROPOSED IS A RESTROOM, THAT'S A PACKAGE.
AND SO THE CITY, UM, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELECT THE SIDING WE PLANNED ON THE, LIKE THE LAP SIDING, BUT WE COULD DO A METAL ROOF AND THEN STONE AROUND THE BOTTOM.
AND SO THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE STRUCTURES, BUT STILL LOOKS, UM, FINE.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE, WE NEED IT TO HA HAVE HAPPEN I THINK IS DOES EVERYBODY SORT OF AGREE OKAY.
A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE LAWN AREA.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS IT? SO I CAN KIND OF, IS THAT A, IS IT, IS IT A, IS IT A SLOPING HILL THAT'S COMING DOWN? IS IT, IS IT A FLAT AREA? IT'LL BE 2%.
RELATIVELY FLAT, BUT WE'LL SHEET OFF.
WELL, SO TWO, JUST TWO COMMENTS.
UM, I'M NOT REALLY FOR THE CITY PUTTING IN A DOG PARK AND PUTTING IN A LAWN WHEN WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT WATER AND, UH, AND GRASS.
BUT IN A, IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, IT'S TOUGH.
AND SO IT'S TOUGH TO MAINTAIN PHOENIX AND UH, UH, SCOTTSDALE ARE TEARING 'EM ALL UP NOW AND PUTTING IN ARTIFICIAL TURF AND YOU HAVE TO WALK ON IT AND LOOK AT IT TO SEE THAT IT'S NOT REAL.
UM, AND I JUST KNOW FROM A MAINTENANCE POINT OF VIEW, TRYING TO KEEP THAT ALONG WET ALL THE TIME IN THE SUMMERTIME IS HARD.
THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT TALKING TO THE OSBY DITCH AND TRYING TO USE THEIR WATER? SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SAY
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THAT WE'RE USING, UM, WATER FROM THE OSBY DITCH.YOU COULD PUT A CISTERN IN THERE AND A PUMP AND YOU'D HAVE ALL THE FREE WATER IN THE WORLD YOU'D WANT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE MAKING A GOOD STATEMENT MM-HMM.
NOW, UH, WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE S B DITCH ASSOCIATION, BUT I'M, I'M SURE THAT THAT COULD GET WORKED OUT.
BUT IT'S SO CLOSE, UM, THAT IF, AND THE OTHER THING IN THE OSBY DITCH IS IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO YOUR WALKWAY.
AND IF WE COULD SOMEHOW INCORPORATE THAT WALKWAY IN SOME SIGNAGE THAT OMBI DITCH, HERE'S THE HISTORY OF IT.
IT'S REALLY A HISTORIC PART OF IT.
I WAS ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE WHEN I WAS AT LOS SALGADOS.
CAUSE IT RAMS RIGHT THROUGH THERE, RIGHT THROUGH GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF MY PLACE.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IF YOU GO THE EXTRA MILE, UM, IT'D BE NICE AND YOU COULD USE IT FOR ALL YOUR DRIP IRRIGATING AND EVERYTHING.
UH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD GO ON CITY WATER WITH YOUR TOILETS AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF, BUT YOUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM, YOU COULD HAVE A DOUBLE SYSTEM.
UH, UH, UH, ONE OTHER ONE QUESTION THAT MAY, IT MAY BE TOO LATE TO DO THIS, BUT WAS IT THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, I KNOW THE STATE HAS MONIES, UM, FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND I THINK THEY WOULD GO ABSOLUTELY GAGA OVER YOU.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING A BRILLIANT JOB HERE AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED IT, UM, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE ONE OF US TALKING TO THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, UH, SHIPO.
BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN I WENT TO THE LAST CONFERENCE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SAYING WE REALLY WANT TO HELP THE CITIES WITH PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS.
YOU KNOW? AND, AND I KNOW MAYBE AT THIS POINT MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED A LOT OF MONEY FOR IT, BUT IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, FUNDING IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE STILL TO, TO, TO GO TO THEM AND, AND, AND GET SOME, SOME FUNDING FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE INTERIORS OF THE BUILDINGS OR SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON OUT IN THE, IN THE AREA.
BECAUSE THIS IS ALL HISTORIC AND IT ALL, YOU KNOW, IT ALL LENDS ITSELF EXACTLY TO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE LOOKING INTO THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S TOO LATE AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GET MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT A PRO TAKES GRANTS OR, UM, ONEROUS SOMETIMES, SO YEAH.
AND THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR IT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A LOVELY, IT'S A LOVELY PROJECT.
UM, JACK, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO MENTION IN THIS CONTEXT? THIS TOPIC CAME UP SOME MEETINGS AGO ABOUT A, AN EXISTING PUMP THAT IS IN THAT GENERAL AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WORKS OFF THE OWENS B DITCH OR NOT, BUT THE, EVIDENTLY THE PIPE ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH A PORTION OF THE, OF THE RANGER PROPERTY AND GOES ACROSS THE STREET.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
THAT'S ORIGINALLY, I THINK WENT UP TO THE CISTERN ON THE HILL.
AND THERE PROBABLY WAS SOMETHING AT THE SBY DITCH AT ONE TIME.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE WATER RIGHTS TO THAT ANYMORE.
AND, UM, SANDY, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PATHWAY AND HOW IT WILL BE CUTTING THROUGH THE WALL NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY? YEAH, SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PHOTOS.
UM, SO A BIG PART OF THE PROJECT IS MAINTAINING THAT RED STACK WITH SOME OLD CONCRETE, UM, ALONG THAT, UH, EVENT SPACE MM-HMM.
AND THAT IT'S ABOUT TWO FOOT, TWO AND A HALF FEET TALL ALONG THIS AREA AND IT WRAPS AROUND.
UM, AND THEN I'M, UM, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT PARKING AREA CUZ IT'S ALSO WRAPPED BY SOME MORE RED STACK THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND.
UM, SO IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE OUR, UM, TRAIL, BECAUSE WE, WE NEED TO BE AT THE SAME GRADE AS THE DRIVEWAY, SO IT'S ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF FOOT.
SO I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE TO DO A CUT THROUGH THAT WALL.
AND WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS, IS WE CAN TURN AND UTILIZE THOSE ROCKS IN OTHER AREAS.
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IN THE PARK OR, UM, CUZ AS YOU GO FURTHER TO THE EAST OVER HERE, UH, THE WALL GETS QUITE LOW.UM, AND I AND CYNTHIA HAD MENTIONED THAT SHE, IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT THIS BE A SEAT WALL AT SOME POINT.
SO THAT COULD BE A FUTURE PROJECT, BUT THAT COULD ALSO BE BUILD UP WITH SOME OF THE ROCK.
BUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MEANDER THROUGH THESE TREES RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN BY, WE, UH, HUNG A FLAG AND UH, LARRY AND HIS TEAM HUNG A FLAG ON THAT FLAGPOLE.
SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THAT AND THEN THE PATH CURRENTLY COMES DOWN LIKE THIS.
SO I'M, UM, NOT SURE HOW, BECAUSE THIS WALL WRAPS AROUND HERE, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN GET THROUGH IT WITHOUT CUTTING, UH, A PATH THROUGH THE MM-HMM.
OH YOU COULD WANNA TAKE THAT UP THERE SO IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE STEPS.
UM, AND WE'RE SUGGESTING LEAVING THE STEPS SO WE DON'T WANNA TAKE THE STEPS OUT.
UM, SO YOU'RE THINKING OF GOING THROUGH PART OF IT? YEAH.
NOT TAKING IT ALL OUT, BUT JUST SORT OF NO, JUST THE 10 FOOT, LIKE, UH, WIDE ENOUGH SO THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE BY WHEELCHAIR AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO THAT WE CAN GET DOWN TO THAT DRIVEWAY GRADE.
CUZ THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFICULT IS YOU GOTTA DROP THAT TWO FOOT AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SLOPE IT CUZ WE CHASE IT AND HAVE TO DIG A WHOLE BUNCH BACK TOWARDS THE NORTH.
SO IF WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, DIVIDE IT BETWEEN THE TWO AND, UM, SO I, IT LOOKS GREAT.
SO BOB, DO YOU HAVE SOME? YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON DECISION MAKING FOR THE INTERIORS OF THE BUILDING? YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE CHAFING IT, THE BIT TO GET TO IT.
UM, WHEN IS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK ABOUT BEST USES OF THE INTERIOR OF THESE BUILDINGS? SO THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE CHOMPING AT THE BID ARE FOR THE EXTERIOR MM-HMM.
AND SO WE'VE CAUTIONED THEM, YOU KNOW, TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF THE WINDOWS AND EVERY, ALL THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON.
THE, UM, WE FOUND AN ARCHITECT THAT, UM, IS BOOKED.
HE'S GOT, UM, BACKGROUND HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND SO HE'S NOT GONNA START ON THE PROJECT TILL JUNE, JULY AND WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU.
UM, WHEN HE DOES WHAT THE PLAN IS, IS TO HAVE HIM TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, UM, PROVIDE SOME SKETCHES, BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND GET, AND ALSO, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND GET SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED BEFORE WE DO FINAL DESIGN AND WHEN WILLIS GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING, BUT IT WOULD BE, UM, EARLY FALL IS MY THOUGHT.
SO THAT WAY WE COULD BE WORKING ON IT, UM, OVER THE, THE WINTER AND THEN HAVE IT READY TO GO FOR SPRING NEXT YEAR.
AND THAT WAY IT WOULD BE COMPLETED IN FY 24.
A QUESTION, THE PARKING LOT, UM, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA PARK AT THAT PARKING LOT AND THEY WILL FOR LAS ABOGADOS? I MEAN IN, IN OCK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
WHAT'S THE NATURAL PATH THEY WOULD TAKE? SO THEY DON'T GET ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR THEY DON'T GO THROUGH THE EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT? IS HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT HOW MOVING PEOPLE YEAH.
YOU KNOW, ARE, OR DO WE MOVE THEM BACK TO THE STREET AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S SIDEWALK ON THE STREET THERE.
UM, NO, THERE, SO I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT CUZ IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND UM, THEY'RE PARKING ALL THE WAY UP ON BREWER NOW AND, AND WE, SO I THINK WE, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT A NATURAL PATH THEY SHOULD TAKE AND, YOU KNOW, SIGNING OR SOMETHING TO MOVE 'EM ALONG A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THAT WAS CONSIDERED IN THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN AS WELL AS THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO I CAN SHARE THAT WITH SANDY.
THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WE, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, PARK USAGE MAYBE AS AN ART PARK OR A SCULPTURAL PARK OR A HISTORY PARK.
UH, AND, AND IN MY BACKGROUND, YOU, YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO THINKING ABOUT THAT.
UM, YOU CAN ALWAYS, I'M SURE YOU CAN GET IT PLACED.
HOW DO, WHEN DO WE START THINKING OR HOW, WHEN DOES THAT PROCESS START TO COME INTO WHERE WE GO AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT? UM, MY SUGGESTION, BUT I'M AN ENGINEER
I THINK THIS IS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING, LIKE I SAID, THE CASCADING BASINS AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT FEEL, UM, WHEN WE GET IT ALL GRADED AND, AND, UM, LANDSCAPE AND SMOOTHED OUT.
SO WILL THERE BE YEAH, I THINK THAT PATHWAY LIGHTING IN THIS OR NOT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT.
UM, BUT LARRY AND HIS TEAM, WE, UM, HAVE BEEN DOING SOLAR BALLARD ON THE OTHER PROJECTS.
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YEAH.AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE AS WE SEE IT NEEDED.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE THOUGHT IS IS THIS PARK IS A, UM, DONDA DUSK PARK, SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY, UM, PARKING LOT LIGHTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME.
AND I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF WAITING UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY CAN SEE IT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT CHANGES YOUR WHOLE ATTITUDE ABOUT WHAT IT'S GONNA BE INSTEAD OF GOING, JUMPING THE GUN AND THEN HAVING TO BACK UP AND, YOU KNOW, READ READJUST.
NOW AND WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TODAY? SO WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT HOW WE'RE MOVING TOGETHER FORWARD.
UM, PART OF COM DEV, UM, CYNTHIA'S REQUEST.
DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? THE CULTURAL? YEAH, SO ONE OF THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS OF GETTING A BUILDING PERMIT IS IF IT IS A HISTORIC PROPERTY, UM, IT NEEDS TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS MM-HMM.
AND SO IN THIS SITUATION, IT'S A BIT OF A GRAY AREA BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THE PATHWAYS MM-HMM.
UM, SO THE GRAY AREA PART IS THE PROPERTY.
SO IT TALKS ABOUT DOING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ON THE PROPERTY AND JUST TO READ THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, SHALL BE IN HARMONY WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY OR DISTRICT.
UM, SO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATENESS REQUIRED BEFORE COMMENCING ANY, UM, EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS OR DEVELOPMENT AND IT GOES ON BLAH BLAH BLAH.
UM, SO WE WOULD NEED TO FILL ONE OF THOSE OUT.
OR THE ALTERNATIVE IS A CERTIFICATE OF NO EFFECT.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE BRENT'S MOST FAMILIAR WITH THOSE IF WE DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S GONNA IMPACT THE HISTORIC.
ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK MOST OF IT WOULD.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PRO PROPOSING TO PUT ON.
AND THAT ONE PROBABLY I WOULD THINK, WELL, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDING.
WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, I TWO I HAD WAS THE PICKLEBALL AND THAT'S GONE.
BUT I, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE, THE PLAYGROUND STUFF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARK IN A HISTORY PARK AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT BOTHERS ME.
UH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF PLAYGROUNDS IN THIS TOWN.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF THINGS FOR KIDS TO DO AND SOMETIMES WE JUST DO THINGS CUZ WE THINK WE HAVE TO, OR WE HAVE SEVEN NEIGHBORS THAT SAYS WE NEED TO, BUT THAT'S MY ONLY PROBLEM.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
WELL, AND ACTUALLY WE'RE NOT REALLY DECIDING ON THAT TODAY ANYWAY.
WELL, AND WE'RE NOT, ALL WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THE PATHWAYS, WHICH I THINK IS FINE.
AND, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD, WOULD CAUTION WHAT WITH IS WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE BUILDING.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU, YOU TO ACTUALLY PRESENT SOMETHING TO US.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING.
BUT JUST TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE CYNTHIA SEND SOMETHING OUT TO US AND US ALL LOOK AT IT AND, AND EACH ONE OF US SORT OF HAVE A, AN IDEA ON IT BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE PERFECT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I COULD SEE, SEE THAT A CERTIFICATE OF NO EFFECT COULD BE, COULD BE THERE MM-HMM.
UM, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE ON THE, IN THAT WHOLE PLAN OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND, AND PLEASE, UH, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, JUMP IN HERE IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I'M SAYING.
ANY, ANY THOUGHTS? I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
I GUESS, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. UM, BUT, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU TO SEND US JUST AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
CUZ THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE A, HAVE A LOOK AT THAT.
AND I THINK AT THAT POINT, IF WE GOT THAT, UM, IT REALLY IS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTING THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE THE WAY THEY LOOK.
AM I, AND CERTAINLY ANYBODY CHIME IN HERE AND SAY, UM, WHAT YOU THINK IS THAT WORTH? SO TO CLARIFY, SO TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESTROOM THAT YOU WANNA SEE THE RESTROOM? YES.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THAT IS A STRUCTURE, RIGHT.
THE REST OF IT I THINK ACTUALLY WILL LEND ITSELF WELL TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING HERE.
THE PICKLEBALL COURT I WAS HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH, JUST LIKE STEVE WAS AND TODAY WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE SWING SETS OR WHATEVER WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING ON THAT OTHER AREA.
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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BRING TO US LATER.UM, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO GET ON THIS RATHER THAN HAVING US RESTRICT YOU AT THIS POINT.
UM, BECAUSE WE SEEING IT, SEEING AS WE'VE WANTED IT FOREVER TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I SEE THAT AS, AS, AS A GOOD THING, NOT A BAD THING.
SO, UM, I AND, AND DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, CYNTHIA? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS THE CERTIFICATE OF NO EFFECT ON THIS FIRST PHASE WITH THE PATHWAYS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A DETAILED DESIGN THAT SHOWS THE, UM, RESTROOM BUILDING AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE BARN, UM, THEN WE CAN BRING THAT AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE AT THAT TIME THAT'S ON.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE CUZ I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY WANNA SLOW YOU DOWN.
SO WOULD THIS ONE SILLY QUESTION, WILL THOSE RESTAURANTS BEING LOCKED AT NIGHT? YES.
WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY LIVING IN THEM.
WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU THREE PEOPLE.
WELL, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANT TO MENTION OR, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO ASK IN TERMS OF THIS? CAN ANYBODY THINK OF ANYTHING? ARE WE GOOD? I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
CAN I ALSO POINT OUT THAT WE DID GET A LETTER, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC AND I GAVE YOU ALL A COPY ON YOUR DESK.
OH, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.
WELL THAT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, I I I I TRAVEL THAT AREA MORE THAN ANYBODY.
I OWN FIVE LOTS RIGHT ALONG THERE.
I, I TRAVERSE IT 10 OR 12 TIMES A DAY.
AND SO THE TRAFFIC ISN'T THAT BAD.
SO YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF TOWN AND I CAN'T GET TO THE MARKET AND I CAN'T GET TO THE OTHER PICKLEBALL CARTS.
TO ME IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
I, WELL, AND I THINK WE'VE, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DONE DEAL FOR US, I THINK.
SO SHE'S HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM HER, THE AUTHOR OF THAT EMAIL IS HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
OH, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, TO COME AHEAD AND THEN SPEAK TO US? I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DON'T WANT A PICKLEBALL COURT, BUT THE NEIGHBORS, DO I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DON'T WANNA, STEVE, YOUR PROPERTY'S RIGHT THERE.
AND WE NEED WHERE YOU, WHERE, WHERE YOU LIVE, PLEASE.
I'M GINA GERTS GLASER AND I LIVE ON 85 PROC NOW ROAD.
UM, WE REALLY WANNA USE THIS PARK.
WE WOULD AT LEAST WANT BOCCI BALL HORSESHOES.
I I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A BUSINESS RIGHT THERE.
WELL THAT, YEAH, THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT THE BUSINESS WISE, WE DON'T COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME INPUT FROM YOU AND OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT MY LETTER.
UM, AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO, WE REALLY WANNA BE ABLE TO JUST DRIVE TO THE PARK OR WALK TO THE PARK AND USE IT WHEN WE CAN'T GET OUT.
I MEAN, STEVE, YOU CAN SAY IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT IS A LOT OF TIMES IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET OUTTA THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT PROPERTY.
I MEAN, IF WE SHOP FOR GROCERIES, WE HAVE TO GET UP EARLY IN THE MORNING TO GO TO TOWN, OTHERWISE WE DON'T GET THAT DONE.
SO WE JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE SOME FUN.
THAT'S KIND OF AN OLD-FASHIONED THING.
I CAN SEE YOU'RE COMPLETELY RESISTANT AND I JUST WANNA ASK THAT YOU ENTERTAIN THAT IDEA.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HORSESHOES.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME COVERED STRUCTURES OVER THE TABLES.
I'M SORRY I'M NOT USED TO TALKING IN A MICROPHONE.
AND, UM, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS PARK AND HAVE FUN.
UM, IT, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY BUSY PARK.
I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA DRIVE TO BREWER ROAD? TO THE PARK? YOU KNOW? CAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS MAJOR, MAJOR PARK BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT TRAFFIC.
BUT WE DEFINITELY WANNA USE IT.
WE HAVE BEEN WAITING AND WAITING AND WE'RE ALL ON BOARD AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE WANNA SAY? YEAH, THESE ARE, WE'RE THE NEIGHBORS HERE THAT YOU HAVE? OH YEAH.
WELL, I, I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I THINK AT THIS STAGE IN THE GAME, THERE REALLY ISN'T A SPACE FOR THE PICKLEBALL.
NOW WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STEVE
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WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PLACE FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY OF FOR US.I THINK WHAT THE, WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW IS, IS BASICALLY THE, THE WALKAROUND SPACE AND, AND, AND THAT, SO I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE WE COULD THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND I AM I, AM I NOT RIGHT IN THAT, THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE, AND AND ACTUALLY LIKE STEVE IS SAYING, THE, UM, THE OTHER THING, UM, WE WANT TO DO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THINK ABOUT THAT ONE SPACE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT WAS GOING TO BE, EXCUSE ME.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.
SHE JUST HAS TO TALKS ALL WE CAN DO.
OH, IS THAT ALL SHE CAN DO? SHE, WE CAN'T DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, HERE DURING THAT PERIOD.
I AGREE WITH STEVE ON ONE THING, AND THAT IS WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER KITTY PARK.
AND IF WE HAVE A FEW THINGS FOR THE KIDS, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
IT NEEDS TO BE AN ALL AGE PARK.
LITTLE KIDS CAN PLAY BOCCE BALL, LITTLE KIDS CAN PLAY HORSESHOES.
WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT BE LIKE A FAMILY FUN COMMUNITY PARK FOR THE BREWER ROAD AREA.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, HOW LONG AGO WAS IT? EIGHT YEARS OR SOMETHING? MM-HMM.
SO YOU'VE GOT MY LETTER
WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I AM THE SECRETARY TREASURER OF THE OMB DITCH.
UM, WELL I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT OF COURSE THERE'S A LOT OF THIS THAT IS NOT DECIDED YET EITHER.
SO WE HA WE WE HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY.
UM, IF WE HAVE NO OTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, AND IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE RANGER STATION PARK THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS HERE? ARE WE OKAY.
THEN WE'LL GO ON TO NUMBER B DISCUSSION REGARDING MEETINGS WITH THE OWNERS OF THE TWO POTENTIAL LANDMARK APPLICATIONS AND DISCUSSION ON NEXT STEPS.
WELL, I THINK, UM, ACTUALLY STEVE AND I, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO NU UH, NUMBER ONE ON THAT ONE.
STEVE AND I MET WITH, UH, WENDY, UM, LIPMAN.
UM, WE, WE MET WITH WENDY LIPMAN AND SHE'S, SHE'S VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF US LOOKING INTO ACTUALLY LANDMARKING, UM, THE, THE, BOTH THE CHAPEL AND THE TOWER AT TKA P**I.
UM, STEVE WAS SAYING I, I DO HAVE THE, UH, I I HANDED HER ALL THE STUFF, SOME INFORMATION ON THE RESOURCE SURVEY AND, AND WHAT WE WILL NEED ON THE APPLICATION FORM.
UM, AND I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY, CYNTHIA, FOR YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE MAY NEED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO A FORMAL, UH, UH, REVIEW OF WHATEVER WE'RE LANDMARKING.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO A TAK, SHE'S GOT A LOT OF THE HISTORY.
SHE ACTUALLY HAS THE BLUEPRINTS AND EVERYTHING.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY, GIVEN THE FACT IT'S SO, SO, UH, UH, PUBLIC.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO HAVE, HAVE A FORMAL, UM, REVIEW OF IT? OR DO YOU STILL FEEL THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO FOR THE CITY? WELL, IT'S NOT REQUIRED AND I THINK THAT IS UP TO YOU ALL.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, IT, IF YOU GUYS ALL AGREE ON IT AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEN I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
UM, REALLY WHERE THE SURVEYS ARE GONNA BE ESSENTIAL IS IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS AS TO THE BACKGROUND, FOR EXAMPLE.
IN THIS CASE, YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS.
WELL, WELL IN BOTH STEVE AND I, WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH WENDY, WE REALLY FELT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT IT, IT SEEMED AS THOUGH IT WAS A PRETTY SLIM DUNK IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT EVERYTHING IS AND WHERE IT'S
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BEEN AND HOW IT'S GOTTEN THERE.AND, AND SHE HAS, SHE'S GONNA GIVE US A WRITTEN HISTORY AND IF SHE SAID IF SHE CAN GIVE US ANY MORE, I, I, I, MY MY FEELING IS THAT I WOULD RATHER CONCENTRATE IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THAT KIND OF THING.
A MORE FORMAL THING WOULD BE TO DO IT WITH THE LINKS DRIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THAT I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE, A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
WOULD YOU NOT SAY JACK? UM, ABOUT, ABOUT TAKA? P**I? NO, NO, NO.
SO, UM, BASICALLY, UM, WE, THIS IS A GO AHEAD FOR HER.
AND WE ARE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT, UM, UH, SED THE NEXT PART OF THIS, OUR, OUR DISCUSSIONS HERE IN THE AGENDA, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
BUT I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY WORK THROUGH.
UM, AND MAYBE JACK AND I CAN GO THERE AND GO OVER ALL OF THE DETAILS OR MAYBE BOB AND I, OR MAYBE BOB AND JACK, I THINK WE COULD ACTUALLY GET EVERYTHING WE NEED FROM WENDY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING PICTURES AND LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.
I THINK THIS ONE COULD BE ONE WHERE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR AN, A DETAILED DIG INTO THE PAST OF THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S SO, IT'S SO PUBLIC.
I THINK, I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF NOT DOING THAT.
DOES ANYBODY, ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAVE A QUESTION OR A, A PROBLEM WITH THAT? IT SEEMED PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
YOU'VE SAID THAT IT'S PROBABLY, WE CAN SKIRT IT.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE TALKING ABOUT IT, WENDY'S COMING UP TO 50 YEARS.
BUT YEAH, LET'S, LET'S TALK THAT IT TIES INTO OUR UPCOMING EVENT.
SO WE LIKE TO SPEED IT UP SO WE CAN GET THIS TIED TOGETHER BIT.
WE'LL SEE WHY WE WANNA SPEED IT UP.
SO ON THE, UM, THE SURVEY, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? OKAY.
ONE WOULD BE HIRING SOMEBODY TO DO A FULL-BLOWN SURVEY.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE THAT PRETTY MUCH IS REQUIRED, CUZ IT IS ALMOST REPEATED ON THE APPLICATION, IS JUST THE SURVEY FORM, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, ANYONE CAN WRITE OUT THE INFORMATION.
UM, SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE, I BELIEVE IS IN THERE, RIGHT? THE INTEGRITY.
UM, AND THEN ON THE SIGNIFICANCE, IS IT RELATED TO A PERSON, PLACE, TIME AND HISTORY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA STILL NEED TO BE, TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND IT'S AN APPLICATION THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
THEN THIS, THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE, AND THIS WOULD THEN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN WE'D VOTE ON IT.
AND BASICALLY, I I, I JUST WANNA PUT THIS IN MOTION AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
I DID TALK TO, UM, SHIPO ABOUT ACTUALLY DOING THAT AND NOT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THOSE.
AND THEY SAID WE'RE PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.
UM, THEY'RE PERFECTLY FINE WITH US DOING THAT.
THEY SAID THE NATIONAL REGISTER WOULD BE MAYBE MORE OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'D WANT MAYBE THE WHOLE OF TKA P**I, RIGHT.
UM, BUT HE SAID FOR THE CITY, IF IF WE WANNA DO THIS, THEY WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO DO IT.
SO, UM, I I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE, WE ACTUALLY DO THIS FAIRLY, FAIRLY SOON, GET THAT UNDER OUR BELT AND THEN WE CAN MEET AND, AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR US, CYNTHIA, ON, ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH THAT? SO WOULD THIS APPLICATION BE FOR BOTH THE CHAPEL AND THE TOWER? YES.
YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA INCLUDE BOTH.
UM, AND, AND SHE'S VERY HAPPY TO INCLUDE BOTH CUZ SHE SAID THEY'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THOSE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ICONIC FOR A TAKA P**I AND THEY DON'T WANT, THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
SO THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.
SO, SO WHENEVER, I GUESS WE HAVE A COMPLETED APPLICATION FORM, UM, THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON AN AGENDA FOR FUTURE MEETING.
SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
I CAN, I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH, WELL I DON'T KNOW CYNTHIA, WHETHER, UM, YOU NEED TO SORT OF, UH, DECIDE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF VOLUNTEERING WHO WOULD WANT TO GO AND ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF THIS.
UM, I KNOW JACK HAS FILLED THESE OUT BEFORE.
IN FACT, HE'S GOT ONE IN FRONT OF HIM,
BOB, IF YOU DO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO WITH JACK? WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER TO DO? UM, I JUST HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY.
IT'S PROBABLY EASIER FOR THE TWO OF US TO DO IT.
WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T THE TWO OF US DO IT? OKAY.
I THINK AND, AND WE'LL GET THAT TOGETHER AND GET IT TO YOU, CYNTHIA.
WELL, AND IF BOB WANTED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THE HISTORY OH YEAH.
IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED DO A ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE, IF YOU COULD DO SOME WRITE RESEARCH, UM, AND JUST DO A WRITE UP THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC TOO.
UM, AND BASICALLY I, YOU CAN EVEN CALL AND TALK TO WENDY SHE'LL AND SHE'S GONNA GIVE US SOME INFORMATION THAT I COULD GIVE YOU AND THEN YOU COULD GO BACK AND FORTH WITH HER THAT THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON SITE.
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COULD DO THAT AND THEN YOU COULD DO THE RESEARCH IF THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU.ONE OF THE THINGS ON RESEARCH YOU MIGHT KEEP IN MIND IS, UM, THAT PROPERTY WAS BELOW GRADE AND THE HILL ACROSS, BEHIND GARLAND'S RUG STORE IS WHERE THE GRADE CAME FROM.
SO ALL THAT WAS CUT, BROUGHT ACROSS, LEVELED BACK IN.
SO IT WAS QUITE A PROJECT TO BUILD THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE DO OUR RESEARCH.
THAT MIGHT BE SOME WITH SOME RESEARCH ON TOO.
SO I'LL, IF I CAN HAND THAT TO YOU, BOB, THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.
SO IF, IS THAT ALL WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE CHAPEL? ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT AND THE TOWER? AND WE CAN GO ON TO NUMBER TWO, THE LINKS DRIVE.
AND I'M GONNA PASS THIS ON TO JACK BECAUSE HE DID, HE'S HE'S THE ONE THAT'S BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT ONE.
UM, I MET WITH THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AT THE END OF MARCH AND UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECEIVED FROM THEM IN OUR MEETING WAS A COMPLETED APPLICATION
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY MEASURED DOWN TO THE SQUARE INCH PRACTICALLY, SO THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE, UH, TAKEN A NUMBER OF PICTURES AND CYNTHIA, I HAVE THIS ON A THUMB DRIVE SO IT'S READY TO GO.
UM, ALSO I FILLED OUT THE PROPERTY INVENTORY FORM AND THERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF REMARKS I'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST UNIQUE RESIDENCES THAT EXISTS IN SEDONA.
AND, UH, IT, UM, HAS, IN MY OPINION, HAVING, HAVING WORKED WITH THE TALIS AND ARCHITECTS BEFORE, IT DEFINITELY, UH, MIMICS A FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT CONCEPT, UM, AND INCORPORATES OTHER ASPECTS OF SEDONA IN THE SEDONA AREA, WHICH MAKES IT UNIQUE.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS BASICALLY STUCCO OVER FRAME, THE WAY THE STUCCOING WAS DONE.
UH, IT'S A KNOCKDOWN STUCCO THAT HAS A, UH, DEFINITE WASH ON IT, AND IT ABSOLUTELY MIMICS A PUEBLO CONSTRUCTION.
AND, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN VERY MANY OTHER PROPERTIES.
ANOTHER IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE, IT HAS A CIRCULAR MEETING AREA THAT MIMICS A HOPI, UM, UH, KIVA.
SO IT'S KNOWN AROUND THE COMMUNITY AS A KIVA HOUSE.
UM, AND PART OF THAT KIVA, I BELIEVE A PORTION OF IT, A DIFF DIFFERENTIATES SLIGHTLY FROM THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION IN THE HOUSE.
IT APPEARS TO, TO HAVE A HARDCORE, WHICH IN MY OPINION COULD BE SOME ADOBE, AGAIN, A, UH, A TRIBUTE TO, UH, TO THE, UH, TO THE HOPI.
AND, UM, EVEN THE CARPORT IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S NOT JUST A FREE STANDING CARPORT, BUT THE, UH, THE WALL OF THE CARPORT ACTUALLY CONNECTS TO THE HOUSE.
SO THAT ENTIRE AREA IS CONSISTENT.
UM, I THINK IT'S MY OPINION AT LEAST THAT, THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY SHOULD BE, UM, ABSOLUTELY EXPRESSED THROUGH AND, AND WE CONSIDER IT FOR LANDMARKING NOW.
I BASICALLY, WE HAVE, AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, UH, JACK HAS DONE AN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE JOB WITH COMING UP WITH ALL THIS.
I THINK THE WHOLE COMMISSION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TO THAT, UM, THAT PROPERTY.
UM, THIS ONE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA, AND IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING FOR THE HOMEOWNER TOO, FOR US TO HAVE A, A LEG, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UH, MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT IS, IS, IS MORE, UH, UH, FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE INS AND OUTS OF, OF LANDMARKING, UH, SPECIFIC PLACES.
LIKE, UM, OH, NOW MY MIND HAS GONE, UH, WHAT'S, WHO'S AGAIN, NANCY BURGESS? NANCY BURGESS ACTUALLY LOOK AT, AT THIS, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'D HAVE THE, THE MONIES TO ACTUALLY DO THAT FOR, FOR ONE PROPERTY.
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TO SEE THIS HAPPEN FOR THAT PROPERTY.NOW, GIVEN, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, DO WE NEED TO, IS THERE A NECESSITY FOR US TO VOTE O ON ACTUALLY MOVING AHEAD WITH THAT.
WE'VE GOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BEGINNINGS OF THE APPLICATION.
WE HAVE, I THINK EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION ON BOARD FOR THIS.
UM, IS IT NECESSARY FOR US TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE, UM, ACT, ACTUALLY ASK NANCY BURGESS THEN TO COME AHEAD AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT? AGENDA FOR A VOTE? RIGHT? OH, IT'S NOT AGENDA FOR VOTE.
WE COULD JUST DO THIS BY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
SIMILAR TO, UM, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PREVIOUS, UM, APPLICATION ON THIS ONE, IF, IF EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH ALL THE ANSWERS TO THE INVENTORY FORM AND OUR LANDMARK DESIGNATION CRITERIA MM-HMM.
THE ONE QUESTION HERE, AGAIN, IF, IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, IT SAYS BEING AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD OR HAVING ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE WITHIN THE PAST 50 YEARS IF THE PROPERTY IS OF EXCEPTIONAL IMPORTANCE, ET CETERA.
SO THAT IS ONE AREA THAT IT FELL SHORT.
AGAIN, IT'S ONLY A FEW YEARS SHORT OF THE 50.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT, BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUENESS, ANOTHER THING THAT IT'S SOMEWHAT TETHERED TO IS THE CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS.
BECAUSE THE SAME BUILDER, THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL FIRM WAS INVOLVED FROM THE FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT CONCEPTION MM-HMM.
IN FACT, ONE OF THE WINDOWS IN THIS PROPERTY LOOKS DIRECTLY TOWARD THE CHAPEL.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT YOU WOULD WANNA WRITE UP IN THE, UM, DESCRIPTION.
I HAVE, I HAVE IT IN THE, AND, AND I THINK IT, AND IT IS A, IT IS A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, THERE, I DON'T THINK WE'LL FIND ANOTHER PROPERTY LIKE THAT.
AND IT ALSO HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN, UH, ARCHITECTURAL D UH, UM, ARIZONA HIGHWAYS.
UM, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS ACTUALLY SHOWN ITSELF TO BE SOMETHING OF, UH, UH, UH, A SPECIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO I THINK IT ACTUALLY CAN FALL INTO THE FACT THAT IT ISN'T 50, THOUGH IT'S NOT 50 YEARS OLD, IT'S STILL SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH FOR US TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT IN THIS RESPECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IT'S FINE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IF, IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A FULL SURVEY DONE.
WELL, YEAH, IF YOU THINK, IF WE THINK, JUST LIKE WITH THE CHAPEL, WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH BACKGROUND IN INFORMATION ON IT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND, AND UM, AND, AND BASICALLY, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS CAN ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THE APPLICATION AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
AND THEN WE COULD PROBABLY SCHEDULE 'EM ON, UH, FOR THE SAME MEETING, JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER.
I'VE MADE TWO OF THE, BOTH OF THEM, EACH ONE OF THEM.
CAUSE BOTH OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY.
THEN WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN FILL OUT THE OTHER ONE AND HAVE THAT READY TOO.
AND WE CAN DO THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I, I WILL NEED TO CHECK INTO THE PROCEDURES, BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE'S PROCEDURES
UM, OH, THERE IS PUBLIC ECONOMIC FOR BOTH OF THEM.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE PUBLIC NOTICING.
SO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, THE TIMELINE AS TO YEAH.
WHEN LIKE, AS IN MAY IS PROBABLY TOO SOON.
THERE'S THAT, THERE'S THAT APPLICATION.
UM, SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS YOU NEED TO ASK US, CYNTHIA, ON THAT ONE? NO.
SO LET'S GO ON TO THE DISCUSSION ON PART PAR, PARTNERING WITH THE SEDONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY IN A JOINT EVENT.
UM, I'M GONNA, WHEN STEVE AND I WERE WITH, UM, WENDY, SHE MENTIONED, AS STEVE HAS SAID, AND, AND YOU CAN GO HERE.
WELL, SHE, SHE MENTIONED THIS 50 YEARS.
UM, WE, WE WERE, WE SAID WE WOULD PLAN A, UH, AN EVENT FOR THE HISTORY WEEK THAT, THAT THANK YOU, LYNN, THAT THE, UM, THE MUSEUM IS, IS PAID TO PUT ON AND HELP US PUT ON.
SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IT AT TO LOCK KAPA.
AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE DESIGNATE THIS OR TALK ABOUT DESIGNATING IT, SHE WOULD, UH, BE WILLING TO OPEN UP TO LOCK KAPA TO US.
WE WOULD HAVE, UH, ALL OUR BANNERS COME OUT WITH ALL OUR PROPERTIES.
WE WOULD DO A MAILING AND WE WOULD MAKE IT KIND OF TIE IT ALL TOGETHER.
SO I HAVEN'T GOT A CHANCE TO GET WITH THE NEW LEADER
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OF THE, UH, MUSEUM.HE'S GONE THIS WEEK, BUT, UH, I PLANNED ON GETTING WITH HIM NEXT WEEK AND SEE WHERE HIS, HIS HEAD'S AT.
HE, IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT IT ON, BUT WE WERE BOTH LOOKING FOR AN EVENT.
SO I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT EVENT, AND I THINK IT KILLS TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WENDY, INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM A LITTLE PLAQUE THAT WE USUALLY GIVE A SIGNIFICANT PLAQUE, I TALKED TO WENDY ABOUT, OUT OF HER OWN MONEY, WE WOULD HELP HER DESIGN MORE OF A STATE LOOKING PLAQUE.
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE ON A SIDE OF A BUILDING WITH THE HISTORY.
A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION.
MORE THAN THE BRONZE, WELL, IT'D BE BIGGER BRONZE, SORT OF DO IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
SOMETHING LIKE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
SOMETHING LIKE YOU'D SEE AT A ROADSIDE WHERE YOU PULL OVER AND IT'S A HISTORIC SIGN.
AND THEN I, MAYBE A NICHO, WE'D HAVE THE SIGN AND THEN SHE'D HAVE SOME MAYBE OLD DRAWINGS OR SOMETHING UP.
SO WE MAKE IT A HISTORIC LITTLE PIECE.
SHE REALLY LIKED THAT IDEA A LOT.
SO I THINK WE'RE KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE'S, ONE STONE, AND I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION NEXT, NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND I, I ACTUALLY ASKED, UM, BECAUSE I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHERE, WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH TIMING ON THIS.
UM, I HAD ASKED NATE TO PLEASE GIVE ME THE DATES WHERE HE FELT THAT IT WAS GONNA BE, THAT HE ALREADY HAD EVENTS LINED UP AND THE HISTORIC HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAD EVENTS LINED UP.
SO HE SAID MAY 4TH, MAY 11TH, AND MAY 13TH DIDN'T WORK FOR HIM.
AND, UH, WENDY SAID SOMETHING JU JUST ABOUT, UH, CINCO DE MAYO, WHATEVER WEEKEND THAT LENS ENDS UP ON.
SO, UM, BUT SHE SAID THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET WITH NATE AND GET IT WORKED OUT.
WE'LL GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO KICK IN SOME, AND WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WHAT WE WANNA DO THERE.
SO, UM, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING.
AND I'VE OFFERED TO HELP TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW I, I PUT THESE, I'M PUTTING TWO ON THIS WEEK
IF WE YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD MOVE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT IF WE WANTED TO TOO.
THE ONLY REASON WE USUALLY DO IT IN MAY, BECAUSE THAT'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, SO WE USUALLY TRY TO DO SOMETHING THEN, BUT, UM, IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE TOO THAT WE'RE FITTING IN WITH THE, WITH NATE AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING TOO.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS.
LET'S, UH, AND NOW WE ALSO, WERE TALKING ABOUT A HISTORIC TRAINING SESSION, HPC TRAINING SESSION.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE, YOU WANTED TO TRY TO DO THAT, UH, BY JULY 1ST.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EITHER NEXT MONTH OR IN JUNE.
AND OUR, AND, UH, IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING EITHER NEXT MONTH OR IN JUNE, UM, AND, AND SO, I MEAN, I'M SORT OF SKIPPING AHEAD TO GO TO THE FUTURE MEETING TIMES.
UM, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WE, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANNA BRING SOMEBODY UP, UP FROM, UH, UH, FROM SHIPO TO ACTUALLY GO OVER EVERYTHING WITH US, OR WE JUST WANT TO DO A GENERAL RUN THROUGH OF ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW EXTENSIVE YOU WOULD LIKE TO, TO DO OF A TRAINING SESSION THIS TIME AROUND.
SO BECAUSE THIS IS NEW AND IT'S, UM, BASICALLY IT'S IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE SEDONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY MM-HMM.
UM, THE THOUGHT THERE IS THAT IT, IT'S NOT SHIP O TYPE OF TRAINING.
YOU WANNA GO BE MORE CITY OF SEDONA HISTORIC, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH HAVING MAYBE JANINE OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TAKING US TO ALL THE DIFFERENT HISTORIC LANDMARKS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ALL FAMILIAR, BUT I KNOW NATE ISN'T.
UM, AND, AND EVEN, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TOO, THE FACT THAT IT'LL GIVE US A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE PLACES AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
SO IT WOULD PROBABLY EITHER HAVE TO BE IN MAY OR IN JUNE, AND WE ARE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AS TO WHICH DATE IS GONNA WORK FOR THEM.
AND THEN, AND YOU THINK WE COULD, WE COULD ALL PILE INTO ONE VEHICLE OR TWO VEHICLES OR SOMETHING AND JUST MM-HMM.
IT CAN BE A, LIKE JANINE NODDING YOUR HEAD
IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE, AGAIN, TO BE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ALL THE CITY LANDMARKS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT MAYBE POTENTIAL ONES.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT, UM, JANINE BROUGHT UP, RIGHT.
BUT YEAH, AND I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, I'D
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LOVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THEM THAT WE WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.THERE'S SOME THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF REALLY WELL AND OTHERS THAT IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO JUST GO BY TOO.
WE'RE GONNA NEED IN JUNE ARE, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MEET OFFICIALLY TO MAYBE VOTE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
SO WE MIGHT MEET MAYBE HERE FOR A HALF HOUR OR 40 MINUTES AND THEN MAYBE PLAN FOUR HOURS TO GO OUT AND SEE SOME PROPERTIES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A HALF A DAY.
WELL, AND THEN, AND WE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR MEETINGS LAND ON A CERTAIN DATE DURING THE WEEK.
MAYBE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, CYNTHIA, IF YOU JUST WANNA GET IN TOUCH WITH NATE AND SEE WHAT, OR WELL, NATE DOESN'T, WELL NATE HAS TO BE THERE OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE HE IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, RIGHT? SURE.
AND THEN WE NEED PROBABLY JANINE'S HELP TO ACTUALLY TAKE US AROUND.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK TO ME, WE WILL ALSO HAVE, ALSO HAVE TO ALLOW TIME TO PUBLICLY NOTICE THAT A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSION WILL BE TAKING A TOUR.
AND THAT'S WHY IT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TRY TO DO THAT FOR ME.
SO THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN HERE.
SO IF WE, IF WE GO JUNE, JUNE, IF WE, IF WE GO AHEAD TO FUTURE MEETING DATES, UM, THE QUESTION IS DO WE, DO WE THINK WE NEED A MEETING DATE IN MAY? THE ONLY REASON I WOULD SAY WE MIGHT NEED A MEETING DATE.
WELL SEE IF WE TURN THE, A AGENDA, IF WE TURN IN THE, UH, APPLICATION FOR THE, THE, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO BE HERE AGAIN TO TURN IN THAT APPLICATION.
WE COULD TURN IN THE APPLICATION AND HAVE THEN THE MEETING FOR ALL OF THAT IN JUNE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING? WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW.
DO WE HAVE TO VOTE? UH, IF ON THE OCK DOES THAT HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP AND VOTED ON MM-HMM.
SO WOULD THAT HAVE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MAY IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICING, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE THE MEETING IN MAY JUST TO HAVE A SHORT MEETING, MAYBE A HALF AN HOUR OR MEETING MEETING IN MAY.
THERE, DO WE NEED THE MEETING FOR THE, SO I'M TRYING TO READ THE REQUIREMENTS.
BECAUSE I HAD THAT YOU NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO NOTICE THE HEARING.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN MAY.
CUZ I WAS LOOKING, WHEN I, WHEN I BROUGHT EVERYTHING TO UM, WENDY, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND I WAS THINKING THAT WE'D HAVE TO ALMOST HAVE TWO MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAD THE TIME TO ACTUALLY GET IT OUT THERE AND GET IT NOTIFIED.
YOU KNOW, GIVE A PU PUBLIC NOTICE TO IT.
I, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT SHEET OF PAPER I GAVE HER.
WOULDN'T IT BE THE SAME AS PM Z'S REQUIREMENTS? PROBABLY.
AND I THINK THAT'S 14 OR 21 DAYS.
WELL WE STILL, WE STILL NEED TO GET ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET FINALIZED THE TILAK COPY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE I THINK THE LINKS DRIVE IS GOOD TO GO.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER UM, THOUGHT JANINE JUST SUGGESTED IS IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE TRAINING IN MAY MM-HMM.
IF THAT WORKS OUT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT MIGHT BE THE BETTER WAY TO GO.
I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT TRYING TO DO BOTH OF THOSE AT THE SAME DAY.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE TIGHT.
UM, I'D RATHER SEE US DO THE TRAINING IN MAY AND THEN DO THE, THE UM, UM, THE OTHER IN, IN JUNE.
I AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, BEFORE WE LEAVE, UM, CYNTHIA, I THINK I HAVE THE APPROPRIATE APPLICATION, BUT I'M NOT SURE I DO.
SO I'LL HAVE YOU LOOK AT THIS BEFORE
AND WHAT YOU'RE HOLDING UP LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY THING I FOUND.
I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ACTUALLY, RIGHT? I THINK IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN MORE THAN 10 YEARS I THINK.
YEAH, I THINK, WELL IT'S FUNNY WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT, WE HAD GONE THROUGH IT AGAIN IN 2016.
WE DID GO THROUGH IT IN 2016, BUT WE DIDN'T DO ANY CHANGES TO IT.
AND JUST SORT OF, I THINK THAT WAS IT CUZ I'VE GOT A, A NOTE IN MY THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AT 2016.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, I THINK WE WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS TO LANDMARK AT THAT POINT AND THEN WE GOT WAY LAID WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
FINISHED UP WITH ITEM FIVE C YEAH.
THE TRAINING SESSION AND THEN WE'RE OVERLAPPING A LITTLE WITH OUR NEXT AGENDA.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WE UM, WE WITH THE FUTURE ME MEETING DATES,
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I SORT OF WENT INTO THAT.I, YEAH I DID MENTION THAT WE WERE SORT OF SLIDING INTO THE FUTURE MEETING DATES.
SO I THINK IF WE ACTUALLY LINE THOSE TWO DATES UP, UM, AND THEN IT SHOULD BE PRETTY QUIET OVER THE SUMMER I WOULD THINK.
AND THEN WE CAN START LOOKING AT AND, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE PUMP STATION THAT, UM, JANINE MENTIONED TOO.
AND THAT WOULD BE ON OUR TRAINING DAY AND WE COULD LOOK AT THAT ON THE TRAINING DAY AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO GET A JUMPSTART ON.
CUZ THAT ONE WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK DEEPLY INTO THAT.
CUZ THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA HAVE A HISTORY THAT'S A LOT MORE, UH, COMPLICATED THAN ANYTHING THAT WE'VE GOT.
UM, THE, THE, THE ISSUE WITH THAT ONE IS GONNA PROBABLY BE WHO THE OWNER IS MORE THAN THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU PRETTY SURE WHAT IT'S ADO? THE STATE ADOT? YEAH.
I THINK SOMEBODY HAD SAID MENTIONED, CAUSE SOMEBODY MENTIONED THIS BEFORE TO ME BEFORE AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE YOU DID AND MAYBE THAT WAS IT CUZ I, THAT, THAT'S RINGING A BELL TO ME, SO, OKAY, WELL WE, THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, WE DON'T NEED AN EXECUTIVE SENTENCE, SO, OKAY.
NOW DONNA, WITH DONNA
WE'RE GOING TO ADUR, I, I ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
AND IT'S, WHAT TIME IS IT? I DON'T, FIVE 20.
SO WE GOT THROUGH IT PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY.