* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Small Grants Program Committee on June 7, 2023] [00:00:03] THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE CITY OF SEDONA SMALL GRANTS EVALUATION COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 7TH, 2023. PRESENT ARE STEPHANIE GEK, COMMITTEE CHAIR, PATTY RESK. DEAN GAINE, ED SOUTHWELL, CHRISTINE SWAY, STAFF LIAISON. KAREN AND STAFF LIAISON TERESA ARTHUR. AND YOU GUYS ARE READY FOR YEAH. FIRST ONE. OKAY. HI, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HELLO. HELLO. HEY, KAREN, RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT HERE. SURE. THANKS FOR COMING IN. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND YOU, KAREN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE A FREQUENT FLYER. WE'RE A FREQUENT FLYER . WELL, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE GET 10 MINUTES TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN YOU GET TO TELL US ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING. OKAY. I PERSONALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. HOW ABOUT YOU PANEL? NO. OTHER THAN NO, NO. . NO, I DIDN'T. HUH. GREAT EDITION. YEAH. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . ONE THING THAT I'M GONNA OPEN UP LAST YEAR WHEN, UH, WE WERE HERE, YOU GUYS ASKED US TO, UH, COORDINATE WITH OTHER VETERANS GROUPS YEAH. AND SO FORTH. AND, UH, THIS YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, WE COORDINATED WITH THE OTHER GROUPS IN THE AREA AND ENDED UP GETTING THE VIETNAM WALL, UH, BROUGHT IN. AND THAT WAS DOWN IN CAMP, UH, VERDE. SO WE DID TAKE YOUR SUGGESTION AND TRY TO ACT ON IT. SO, AND WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT TOO. NO, WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. DID YOU HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH THE, UM, HISTORICAL SOCIETY? CUZ I KNOW THEY DO, UM, A COUPLE OF VETERANS EVENTS. UM, NO, WE HAVEN'T. UH, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY USUALLY DO. UM, OH, I GET THEM MIXED UP. WE DO MEMORIAL DAY AND THEY DO VETERANS DAY. VETERAN DAY. YEAH. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. UM, AND WHEN WE DID THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, WE HAD THE, UM, SEDONA POLICE CADETS HELP, AND WE HAD CIVIL AIR PATROL. CIVIL AIR PATROL. YEAH. UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF IT THIS YEAR. THEN WE, UM, THEY WERE, UH, ABOVE THE CIVIL AIR PATROL AND THE, UM, AND THE, AND THE CADET WERE PART OF THE, UH, FLAG FOLDING GROUP THAT WE, IF YOU, IF ANY OF YOU WERE THERE, UH, FOR THAT. AND WE PRESENTED, UH, THE FLAG TO, UM, ONE OF THE WIDOWS OF SOMEBODY THAT, UH, RE RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, WAS HIS NAME. SUSAN, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER HER NAME. SOMETHING. GOD, I, I HAD IT IN MY MIND AND LOST IT. I SAW IT IN THE PAPER. YEAH. YEAH. THERE WAS COVERAGE ON THAT. RIGHT. UM, DID YOU HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT ON MEMORIAL NAME? UH, WE HAD PROBABLY A, PROBABLY ABOUT A TOTAL OF 130 PEOPLE. WE, YOU KNOW, WE KEPT, WE KEPT A TALLY. IT WAS A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE THEY COME IN FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT SIDES. BUT, UM, AND THEN WE, THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN AFTER IT STARTED, SO WE HAD TO JUST ESTIMATE WHAT OUR TOTAL WAS. BUT IT, UM, AND WE HAD A HUNDRED CHAIRS, SO THAT THAT HELPED. YEAH. THAT HELPED. , . BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STAND, THEY GET OVER, ACTUALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE BANK WHERE IT'S SHADY. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . AND THEY CAN SEE THE PARK ISN'T REALLY CONFIGURED WELL FOR CEREMONIES BECAUSE IT HAS THE RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE WALLS. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THE KIND OF PATHWAYS. BUT THAT'S GOOD FOR PRIVACY AND RIGHT. AND, AND NO MATTER WHERE YOU'RE SEATED, YOU CAN SEE AT LEAST HALF OF IT , BECAUSE WHERE THE FLAGS ARE, IT'S CIRCULAR. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OVER HERE, YOU SEE THIS HAPPEN, AND I THINK EVERYBODY COULD SEE THE SPEAKER. [00:05:01] YEAH. YOU STILL GIVE FLAGS TO ALL, UH, YOU REPLACE THE FLAGS, DON'T YOU, AT THAT TIME? AND, AND GIVE THEM TO APPROPRIATE SERVICE FOLKS. UM, WE, WE REPLACED, WE REPLACED THE AMERICAN FLAG. OH, OKAY. WELL, THE OTHER ONES WERE REPLACED. THE OTHER ONES WERE REPLACED, BUT WE DIDN'T, UH, AS PART OF THE, WE DIDN'T DO IT AS PART OF THE CEREMONY. THEY WERE ALREADY REPLACED IN THAT HALF STEP, BECAUSE IT GOT TO BE OKAY. UM, BECAUSE THAT ALWAYS TOO MUCH TIME TO PUT THEM UP AND DOWN AND CHANGE THEM. WE, WE ENDED UP GIVING, UH, ONE OF THE, THE AIR FORCE FLAG TO, UH, ONE, THE GUY THAT WAS OUT NOW FOR THE FLAGS IN 89 A MM-HMM. . UM, WE HAD A DONOR WHO PICKED UP THE COST OF THAT. AND HE RECENTLY HAS DECIDED THAT, UM, WELL HE, HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, HIS HEALTH AND HE THINKS THAT HE'S NOT GONNA BE AROUND MUCH LONGER AND HAS SAID THAT WE NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE. AND SO WE GAVE THE, UH, AIR FORCE FLAG SINCE HE WAS AN AIR FORCE VETERAN, UH, TO HIM AS, UH, AS IT CAME DOWN. SO, WELL, THE, AND TWO OF 'EM WERE GIVEN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WERE, UM, GOING INTO THE MILITARY. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THEIR PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE. MM-HMM. WONDERFUL. YEAH. SO THAT, WELL, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO SO MUCH. OH, GOOD. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? WELL, UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOUR, YOU SAID YOUR COSTS HAD GONE UP, WHAT IS IT? THE RENTAL OF THE TENTS AND CHAIRS AND THINGS. THE RENTAL OF THE TENTS AND CHAIRS WENT UP. UH, THE PRINTING COSTS WENT UP. UM, AND THE, THE LAST YEAR WE HAD TO LIMIT THE FLOWERS, UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY. AND SO WE, WE, THIS YEAR WE BUDGETED MORE. AND THE FLOWERS, UM, BUDGET WAS DOUBLED, UH, FOR IT BECAUSE WE WANTED REALLY TO HAVE A BETTER DISPLAY ON THE FLOWERS TOO. SO YOU MIGHT CONTACT, UM, UH, GARDENS FOR HUMANITY. GARDENS FOR HUMANITY. AND THAT'S RICHARD CITY, S I D Y. AND HE, UM, I DON'T KNOW. THEY MAINLY DO VEGETABLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK. BUT, UM, HE MIGHT HAVE SOME, UH, GARDENS THAT HE KNOWS OF THAT DO, DO FLOWERS AND WOULD CARE TO CONTRIBUTE WAS GARDENS FOR HUMANITY. HUMAN. AND I, I THINK THE FLOORS THAT WE USE REALLY DONATES. I MEAN, WE GIVE THEM A QUITE A BIT, WHAT, $200? YOU GIVE 'EM $200, BUT PROBABLY THAT DOESN'T COVER , WHAT THEY DO FOR US. UM, I DOUBT IT. WELL, IF YOU NEED MORE, RICHARD MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. YEAH. OKAY. WE WON'T SEE THAT. WELL, HE CAN ACTUALLY, HE MIGHT, KNOWING YOUR NEED, HE MIGHT, UH, WORK THAT INTO HIS PLANTING SCHEDULES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, SOME OF HIS THAT'S TRUE. HIS SCHOOL PROJECTS. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. SURE. HOW WE NETWORK OUR NONPROFIT . EXACTLY. EXACTLY. THAT'S A PART OF THE ADVANTAGE OF COMING HERE. YES. YEAH. GREAT. THANKS YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. HEY, THANKS SO MUCH. MM-HMM. , THE CLIP LOOKS SO GOOD IN HERE. THIS IS HOW I, TERESA, IS THERE A, A GUEST, UH, SIGNING IT FOR THE WIFI. THANK YOU. YES, THERE IS. SO IF YOU PULL YOUR TABLET ON YOUR PHONE. NO, GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THE, THE SETTINGS FOR, UM, INTERNET. YEAH. JUST TELL ME WHAT IT IS. OKAY. SO THERE SHOULD BE, IN YOUR INTERNET SETTINGS, THERE'S A CITY OF SEDONA GUEST. MM-HMM. . AND THERE'LL BE A PAGE THAT COMES UP AND RIGHT AT THE TOP, UNDER THE TITLE PAGES, A LITTLE TINY BOX THAT YOU HAVE TO CHECK. IT'S LIKE A TINY SQUARE BOX. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM AND LAUNCH THE INTERNET. SO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO, DON'T HAVE TO, THERE'S NO SIGN IN. NOPE. YOU JUST HAVE TO, THE LITTLE BOX IS LIKE AN AGREEMENT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM YOU CAN LAUNCH IT. HELLO. HEY, HOW ARE YOU GUYS TODAY? GOOD. GOOD. WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE TO SIT? YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE HOT SEAT. SARAH, FRONT OF THE TABLE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. OKAY. WHAT WE DO IS IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES WITH YOU. SO IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WE GET FIRST DIBS ON THE TIME. AND THEN IF WE ARE OUTTA QUESTIONS, THEN YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM OR ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH. OKAY. AND CAN YOU TELL US YOUR NAMES, PLEASE? [00:10:01] MY NAME IS MAUREEN COZA. AND I'M BILL COZA. AND WE ARE AFFILIATED WITH THE SOCIETY OF ST. VINCENT DEPA, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , MAUREEN IS, I WOULD CALL HER CASE WORKER MANAGER. I AM THE TREASURER AND WE ARE HERE. ANDREW BRIERLEY WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE HERE. YES. HE'S THE GRANT WRITER. HE IS IN THE UK SOMEWHERE WITH HIS FAMILY. WELL, I DID HAVE A QUESTION CUZ LAST YEAR, UM, WHEN YOU APPROACHED US, THIS WAS GONNA BE LIKE A NEW PROJECT MM-HMM. . AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE ASKING FOR HEALTH THAN YOU'D ANTICIPATED. SO I WAS WONDERING, CUZ YOU, YOU DID SAY YOU HAD TO TURN SOME PEOPLE DOWN. HOW YOU DETERMINE WHO GETS HELP AND WHO DOESN'T MM-HMM. , THAT, THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. I DO NOT ALLOW A CAR TO BE REPAIRED UNLESS IT HAS REGISTRATION AND INSURANCE. THANK YOU. SO IF THEY NEED HELP WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. BUT I WILL NOT REPAIR A CAR THAT IS NOT LEGAL TO BE ON THE STREETS. I ALSO DON'T TAKE CARS OUT OF IMPOUND. WE GET A LOT OF CALLS. THEY'VE CLEARLY BROKEN THE LAW. THEIR CAR'S BEEN IMPOUNDED. I DON'T FACILITATE THAT. SO, UM, AND THERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HELPED IN MANY CASES, BUT WE HAVE SPENT SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS TRYING TO ASSIST THEM, AND I WON'T DO IT. AND I ALSO TALK DIRECTLY WITH THE REPAIR SHOPS, AND THEY TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORTH OUR WHILE TO REPAIR A CAR. I, SO ON SOME OCCASIONS I'VE HAD TO SAY NO. UM, THIS IS, WE HAD A REQUEST ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO FOR A TRANSMISSION, $5,000. AND WE SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF MONEY TO PAY. OF COURSE, WHEN I ASKED THE THE REPAIR SHOP, THEY SAID, NO, DON'T, DON'T TRY TO REPAIR IT. QUITE OFTEN, THESE ARE CARS THAT ARE, THAT NEED TIRES. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN IN DISREPAIR FOR SOME TIME. AND MANY OF THESE ARE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LIVING AROUND TOWN OR OUT ON THE DESERT. YEAH. COMMON REPAIRS MIGHT BE THINGS LIKE WATER PUMP OR A ALTERNATOR. UH, SOMEONE IS STUCK, YOU KNOW, AND THEY NEED, THEY OBVIOUSLY NEED TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THEIR WORK TO GET THE KIDS TO SCHOOL, UH, MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS MM-HMM. AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY'RE A COUPLE OF DOZEN THESE A YEAR. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND I, I'D ALSO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T, YEAH, MAUREEN MENTIONED THIS, BUT THERE'S SOMETIMES SOME CARS THAT ARE SO IN DISREPAIR THAT WE, WE TALK WITH THE, THE LOCAL MECHANICS AND IT THEM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST, IT'S NOT WORTH THE COST OF REPAIR. YOU'RE BETTER OFF TRYING TO GET A NEW VEHICLE. AND THAT'S KIND OF BEYOND OUR SCOPE TO GET SOMEBODY A NEW VEHICLE. MM-HMM. . THE OTHER ISSUE IS GAS. AND MANY YEARS AGO WE STOPPED GIVING OUT GAS VOUCHERS, UM, BECAUSE THE LINE WAS 20 DEEP. WORD GOES AROUND TOWN VERY QUICKLY WHEN SOMEBODY IS GIVING OUT GAS MONEY. AND SO I DON'T, UH, IT HAS TO BE AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE. UM, IF I HAVE A FAMILY THAT THAT'S VISITING AND RAN OUT OF GAS, I GIVE THEM SOME GAS. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I DON'T GIVE OUT GAS VOUCHERS BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TURNING THE FAUCET ON , THEY'LL DRAIN YOU QUICKLY. MM-HMM. . AND SO WE DON'T GO THERE WITH GAS. LAST YEAR WE HAD A, A COUPLE THAT WERE VISITING AND THEY WERE IN THE, UM, OAK CREEK CANYON AND THEIR CATALYTIC CONVERTER WAS STOLEN OFF OF THEIR CAR. WE DID HELP THEM OUT. MM-HMM. BECAUSE THEY WERE STRANDED HERE. UH, AND THEIR CAR HAD TO BE, UH, TOWED. SO THEY PAID FOR THE TOW. BUT THEN THE MECHANIC CALLED US TO ASK IF WE WOULD ASSIST WITH THE REPAIR, UM, THE HOMELESS POPULATION. DO, DO YOU THE TURNING ON THE FAUCET SITUATION, DO YOU GET ANY SENSE THAT THE HOMELESS MIGRATE HERE FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE? OH, WE'RE CAREFUL TO . OKAY. NO, GO AHEAD. I WILL ALWAYS ASK FOR IDENTIFICATION AND FIND OUT WHERE THEY'RE FROM. MM-HMM. . AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GIVE ME A NEVADA LICENSE, I HAVE TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, PROVE TO ME THAT YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF ARIZONA. [00:15:01] MM-HMM. . SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A, UM, A LICENSE FROM ARIZONA. I DON'T THINK MANY OF THEM MIGRATE HERE JUST FOR OUR SERVICES, BECAUSE WE HAVE ST. VINCENT DEPAUL IS AVAILABLE IN COTTONWOOD. IT'S AVAILABLE IN CAMP VERDE AND IN FLAGSTAFF. SO WE HAVE THE AREAS COVERED MM-HMM. . AND SO, NO, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME HERE, UM, FOR, UM, FROM OTHER AREAS TO GET REPAIRS. RIGHT. MIGRATE HERE FOR SERVICES. RIGHT. IS ONE. AND WE'RE CAREFUL ABOUT CHECKING. WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, NON-PROFITS. AND SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO CHECK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IS THIS PERSON ON YOUR LIST? MM-HMM. MM-HMM. , WE DO KEEP VERY CAREFUL NOTES. GOOD. AND, UM, AND WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS WHO WE'VE HELPED MM-HMM. . UH, AND SO THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL INFORMATION FOR US WHEN WE'RE ACCEPTING. UM, TRANSPORTATION REQUESTS. JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY TO THE SAME, UH, ST. VINCENT DEPAUL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE YOUR, YOUR SAME MISSION OF THE CAR, THE TRANSPORTATION MISSION. OH FIVE STAFF HAS A TRAVELER'S AID. SO THEY, THEY ARE SIMPLY TRAVELER'S AID. THEY DO NOT REPAIR CARS PER SE. UM, COTTONWOOD HAS A DIFFERENT, THEY HAVE A THRIFT STORE. THEY HAVE MUCH MORE, UH, AVAILABLE FUNDS. AND SO, UM, THEIR CONFERENCE MAKES DECISIONS, UM, BASED ON NEED. LIKEWISE. AND IT'S NOT PARTI, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY TO TRANSPORTATION. TO GIVE A BROADER PICTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION OF ST. VINCENT DEPA IS, IS, UH, REGIONALIZED. MM-HMM. SPECIFICALLY, AND WE ARE SPECIFICALLY SEDONA. THERE WAS A SEPARATE, UH, GROUP THEY CALL A CONFERENCE IN COTTONWOOD THAT ONLY HANDLES COTTONWOOD ISSUES. ANOTHER ONE IN FLAGSTAFF THAT HANDLES THEIR ISSUES AND SO ON. SO WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO IS ONLY SEDONA PER SE, INCLUDING THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK. MM-HMM. . AND, AND OUR BROADER MISSION, WE'RE ABOUT 6% OF OUR BUDGET SPEAKING TO THE BUDGET, ABOUT 6% HAS HISTORICALLY GONE INTO THIS KIND OF, UH, AUTOMOBILE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. RIGHT. SO YOUR MISSION IS ACTUALLY BROAD. YOUR MUCH BROADER MISSION IS BROADER AND YOU DO, YOU DO MAKE OTHER SERVICES. RIGHT. I, I JUST, OKAY. IF I COULD JUST QUICKLY, UH, GO OVER I, YEAH. I GOT ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD. OH, UH, LAST YEAR WE SPENT, UH, $22,000 ON FOOD. $17,000 ON HELPING PEOPLE WITH MORTGAGE PAYMENTS, UH, UTILITIES. WE SPENT ALMOST $9,000 HELPING PEOPLE. UM, WE HELPED A FAMILY REALLY IN NEED WITH FUNERAL EXPENSES. SO IT IS BROADER, BUT WE DO TRACK EACH CATEGORY. AND WE'RE, IF YOU GRANT US ANY MONEY, IT'LL GO SPECIFICALLY TRACKED TO THIS PURPOSE, TO TRANSPORTATION OR TRANSPORTATION. UM, JUST REAL QUICKLY, CAUSE WE HAVE A A, A MUCH LARGER, I'M NOT PUSHING YOU, I'M JUST OKAY. UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A QUESTION THAT'S NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO ST. VINCENT DEPAUL. HOW DO YOU DO YOUR FOOD PROGRAM? HMM. BECAUSE THIS IS A BIGGER PICTURE THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH REGIONALLY. NOT JUST THE FOOD NEED, BUT A LOT OF THE, UM, SITUATION IS OVERLAPPING SERVICES. AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, FIGURE OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONGOING, HOW, HOW TO LOOK AT THIS. THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE FOOD IS, HAS A LITTLE BIT COMPARTMENTALIZED BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AGENCIES HERE THAT ARE DOING FOOD. YES. THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR PROBLEM. OKAY. SO GO AHEAD. YEAH. UM, AT THE MOMENT, UH, OUR FOOD PROGRAMMING IS EVERY THURSDAY MORNING MM-HMM. FOR TWO HOURS. AND IT'S A, WHAT THEY CALL A SHOPPER TYPE OF PROGRAM WHERE WE STOCK OUR SHELVES AND PEOPLE JUST COME IN AND TAKE WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST FOR THEM, WHAT DO THEY NEED. UM, AND WE RECEIVE FOOD FROM MANY SOURCES AND WE BUY FOOD. I MENTIONED THE AMOUNT MM-HMM. MM-HMM. , HOWEVER, UH, BUT, UM, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AS WELL? OH, YES. OH YES. OKAY. AND HOW, HOW ARE YOU TRACKING THAT INFORMATION? WELL, WE HAVE A LARGE DATABASE THAT GOOD. OKAY. THAT WE KEEP ALL OF OUR CLIENTS. SO YOU ASK THEM THEIR NAME, WHERE THEY'RE FROM AND ALL THAT. AND YOU ENTERED THAT [00:20:01] IN YOUR DATABASE? YES. YEAH. AND I, I FOUND OUT, ARE YOU USING LINK FOR FOOD LINK LINK TO TWO LINK FOR FOOD? NO. NO. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANOTHER DATE? WE HAVE, WE HAVE FOOD DELIVERIES FROM THE ST. MARY'S FOOD BANK, ST. MARY'S FOOD BANK, AND ALSO FROM ST. VINCENT DEPALO. NO, I'M MEANT, UM, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE APP. THAT'S THE, UM, OH NO, THE DATABASE APP. YOU HAVE A DATABASE? NO, WE HAVE A SEPARATE DATABASE. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAYBE CONTACT YOU ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT THAT, THAT'S, YEAH, BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M DISCOVERING THAT THESE ARE THE, THERE ARE THESE APPS AROUND THAT DO THAT TRACK THESE THINGS CUZ WE'RE BEING TOLD BY SOME FOOD DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ASK. SO, UH, I'M JUST TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS. YEAH. AND I, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE YOUR, JUST OUR FEELING, MY CONCERN, I THINK, I THINK THE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE DEVELOPING IS IF ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE GIVING OUT FOOD, BUT ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING FROM ONE ORGANIZATION TO THE NEXT? THEY, SOME OF THEM ARE MM-HMM. , UM, IF YOU GET GOVERNMENT FOOD ITEMS, YOU HAVE TO TRACK BY NAME. OKAY. SO WE GET FEDERAL FOOD COMMODITIES FROM, UM, ST. VINCENT DEPAUL AND ST. MARY'S GETS FEDERAL, UH, FOOD COMMODITIES. AND SO WE ARE REQUIRED BY PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PROGRAMS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE NAMES AND SOME LOCATING INFORMATION. BECAUSE YOU'RE RECEIVING FOOD FROM THESE FED, THESE FEDERALLY FUNDED? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND WE'RE REQUIRED, IF THERE'S ANY FOOD RECALLS, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY INDIVIDUALS IF WE HAD THOSE FOOD ITEMS. SO THAT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM. AND IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN A FEDERAL PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE FEDERAL RECORDS. AND THEY DO COME AND INSPECT. UM, ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR THEY'LL COME AND, AND REVIEW OUR PROGRAM. GREAT. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE DO KEEP THE NAMES AND THE PHONE NUMBERS. UM, THOSE OKAY. INDIVIDUALS, WHEN WE KEEP TRACK, PEOPLE SIGN IN AND WE CATCH 'EM WHEN THEY CHANGE THEIR NAMES. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WE HAVE A GREETER AND SHE JUST KNOWS EVERYBODY. SHE KNOWS THEM. RIGHT. SURE. AND WE KEEP THAT SAME GREETER THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE CAN MONITOR QUALITY CONTROL. WHEN PEOPLE ARE CHANGING NAMES OR THEY'RE SENDING IN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USING A, A SIBLING'S NAME. SO. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO ROCK AND ROLL. OKAY. THANKS SO MUCH. HUG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD DAY. YOU TOO. YOU TOO. BYE-BYE. BYE-BYE. I KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER, BUT I, GATHERING THIS INFORMATION, I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US MOVING FORWARD. FOR SURE. WE'RE NOT OVER. ARE WE ON? GOOD? YEP. OKAY. JUST GONNA MOVE THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT TO CAPTURE OURSELVES. OH MY GOSH. YOU GAVE US FIVE MINUTES BETWEEN EACH ONE. AREN'T YOU? AREN'T YOU NICE? YOU BETTER? YEAH, I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, THAT, THAT HELPS A LOT. DEEP BREATH. WE'VE BEEN NICE. WE'RE READY GIRL. LET KEEP IT ON. YES. OKAY. COFFEE. YOU GUYS READY FOR THE NEXT ONE? WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT UP. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ROLLING IN. THAT WAS GOOD QUESTION SESSION THOUGH. GOOD USE OF THE, THE TIME. GOOD MORNING. HELLO. HEY, MOHI, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING. GOOD. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TRIP UP. WELL, IT WAS MY BIRTHDAY YESTERDAY, SO, OH, WELL. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SIR. IT'S A NICE CELEBRATION HERE, AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. YAY. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SEE? YEAH, THAT'S PERFECT. YES. UM, YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE, BUT GO AHEAD. YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ASK QUESTIONS? OK, NOW I'M FAR AWAY. MOHI, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL, UM, YOUR, THE METRICS, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU FIND OUT WHO'S COMING TO YOUR CONCERTS AND YOUR, YOUR TRACKING, HOW MANY SCHOOL KIDS YOU INTERACT WITH AND WHATNOT. I'M STILL NOT SEEING THAT IN YOUR REQUESTS. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OR NOT TO THE DETAIL THAT MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE. SO CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU'RE COLLECTING THAT DATA ABOUT WHO COMES TO YOUR CONCERTS? RIGHT. WE JUST ASSUME THAT EVERY, EVERY PERSON THAT'S AT YOUR CONCERTS FROM SEDONA, RIGHT? WELL, [00:25:01] UH, IT'S A SIMPLE COUNT. YOU KNOW, WE, WE COUNT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ATTEND THE CONCERT. MM-HMM. , WE HAVE, UH, THE EMAILS IF THEY PURCHASE ONLINE. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE THE EMAILS. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COUNT HOW MANY, HOW MANY STUDENTS AND, UH, HOW THEY HEARD ABOUT THE EVENT. MM-HMM. . SO WE HAVE, WE KNOW WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THEY COME FROM. OKAY. YEAH. CAUSE YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE AN 80 20 MIX HERE, SO YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NO PRIMA 80, 80% ARE FROM SEDONA, 20% FROM ELSEWHERE IS WHAT'S ON THE REQUEST. OKAY. AND, UM, I JUST KIND OF WASN'T SEEING HOW THAT PARSED OUT IN THE NARRATIVE. UH, AND CAN, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN, NOT CONTINGENT NECESSARILY UPON, BUT IF YOU CAN SHARE, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN RETRIEVE THAT DATA FOR US? BRING IT OUT OF HOW, HOW ARE YOU DO KEEP, KEEP IT IN THE COMPUTER. HOW DO YOU DO? OR YOU HAVE MANUAL RECORDS, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? WELL, WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF, UH, TICKETS SOLD. OKAY. THEN WE HAVE A LIST, UH, OF, UH, THE COMP TICKET THAT WE GIVE TO, TO STUDENTS. YES. YES. WE OFFER, WE OFFER, UH, FREE TICKETS, UH, SEDONA HIGH SCHOOL, THE RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL. MM-HMM. , WE HAVE A CONTACT WITH THE, WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOL HERE MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . AND, UM, SO TYPICALLY WE GIVE, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE CHARGE VERY SMALL AMOUNT FOR STUDENTS, WE TYPICALLY, UH, GIVE THEM FREE ADMISSION TO, TO STUDENTS, TO OUR EVENTS. UM, UH, CAN YOU SHARE, CAN YOU SEND US A LIST OF THAT DATA MAYBE WHEN YOU GET HOME, CAN YOU SEND THAT BACK TO US? OKAY. A LIST OF IT. YEAH. JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PULL IT OUTTA YOUR COMPUTER, HOWEVER YOU DO IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU RETRIEVE IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR US AND FOR YOU TO PROVIDE THAT IN YOUR FINAL REPORTS AND, AND IN YOUR REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR. SURE. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE WE LIKE NUMBERS. NUMBERS. I BET YOU DO NUMBERS. WE LIKE NUMBERS. OKAY. I LIKE NUMBERS TOO. CORRECT. HIGH NUMBERS A DOLLAR CENTS. RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, I, UH, MAKE A REALLY SPECIAL EFFORT TO, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG STUDENTS, AND INVITE THEM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LARGE VENUES AND WE LIKE TO, TO SEE, UH, STUDENTS AND, AND SO FORTH. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I GO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, CONTACTING THE, THE, THE MUSIC SCHOOL, UH, THE MUSIC, UH, TEACHERS. AND, UH, YOU MAY KNOW THERE IS A BIG TURN TURNAROUND AND, UH, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE FALL MM-HMM. WHEN SCHOOL STARTS. SO I CONTACTED THE TEACHER LAST YEAR. I EVEN SPOKE TO THE, THE PRINCIPAL MM-HMM. , AND FRANKLY YEAH. I SAID, WHY, WHY WE ARE NOT SEEING MORE, MORE STUDENTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO COME, WE OFFER EVENTS NO COST TO THEM. AND, UH, PRINCIPAL SAID, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL SAID, WELL, THEY BUSY WITH SPORTS, SO SPORTS ARE IMPORTANT. BUT, UH, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GOOD CONTACT AT THE, UM, CHARTER SCHOOL. ACTUALLY, UM, THE SPOUSE OF OUR, UH, BOARD PRESIDENT, UH, SHE, SHE'S THE COMPANY, PIANO COMPANY. SHE, SO SHE WORKS WITH, UH, THE MUSIC TEACHER THERE. SO WE, WE PUSHED QUITE HARD FOR THEM, FOR THEM TO COME TO OUR EVENTS EMOTION IF WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT INTUITIVELY. AND IF WE DIDN'T KNOW FROM FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY HOW MUCH YOUR CONCERTS ARE APPRECIATED, BELIEVE ME, WE WOULD NOT BE, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD MAKE YOU, OR REQUIRE, MAKE YOU REQUIRE THAT YOU PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS TO US. BUT INTUITIVELY WE DO KNOW. BUT WE ARE ASKING, WE ARE ASKING STRONGLY THAT YOU GIVE US THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE OUR CITY COUNCIL ALSO TURNS OVER MM-HMM. AND SOME OF THEM ARE NEWER TO THE AREA SURE. AND THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND THE CONCERTS THAT YOU'VE PUT ON. AND, AND THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT GUT KNOWLEDGE. YEAH. AND I'M AFRAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. AND SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO PRESERVE YOUR POSITION MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THEY CAN GO BACK AND SAY, OH, HERE ARE THE NUMBERS. OKAY. BECAUSE THOSE OF US WHO HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT GOING TO BE AROUND ALL THE TIME. SURE. OKAY. SO IF [00:30:01] YOU CAN MAKE THAT A HABIT, AND IF WE CAN START NOW, WE CAN CREATE THE RECORD AND YOUR TRACK RECORD MOVING FORWARD. SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO ANY ONE OF US OKAY. OR THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE ON FILE TO PROTECT YOUR STATURE, SIR. FAIR ENOUGH. THE EVIDENCE. YEAH. THE EVIDENCE IS, UH, BASICALLY A TICKET SALE NUMBER OF TICKET SALES. RIGHT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE, I MUST SAY. NO, IT IS. I MEAN, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE, AS YOU KNOW, THE SEASONAL, UH, RESIDENT HERE. THAT'S FINE. THEY'RE STILL RESIDENTS. YEAH. AND THEY COME AND, UH, WE KNOW THE, THE EMAILS THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THE ADDRESSES TO THAT WE REQUIRE. UH, SO YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SEND NOW, UH, NUMBERS OF YES. THAT, UM, UM, TICKET SALES, SEDONA RESIDENCE, UM, HOW MANY? YEAH. 1,500, UM, UH, STUDENTS, UH, WEST SEDONA CHARTER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. JUST NUMBERS ON A CHART, YOU KNOW, JUST A, JUST A SPREADSHEET, A CHART, OR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON A SPREADSHEET. YOU CAN JUST BE ON A PIECE OF PAPER. OKAY. OKAY. BUT SO JUST, JUST NUMERICAL EVIDENCE OF, OF THE SERVICE, OF THE, THE IMPACT THAT YOU HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR ALL, IT'S FOR ALL OF OUR SURE. UM, PROTECTION MOVING FORWARD. YEAH. SO YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL THAT TO YOU NOW IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS? IF, IF YOU WOULD, WHEN YOU CAN GET IT TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATIVE. SURE, SURE. OKAY. I CAN, I CAN DO THAT. BECAUSE WHEN I GO PLEAD YOUR CASE AND WHEN WE ALL GO PLEAD YOUR CASE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL, IT'D BE NICE TO HOLD UP THE NUMBERS. YEAH. WELL, AND THE COMMITTEE SHOULD KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM DAY ONE, UH, WE ST I STARTED IT HERE 22 YEARS AGO. YES. AND THE FIRST EVENT WAS AT THE CULTURAL PARK. AND, UM, GOD, GOD RESTED SOUL. I'M SORRY. GOD RESTED SOUL. YEAH, I KNOW. UM, ACTUALLY OUR EVENT, UH, FROM MY SOURCES, CAUSE I HAD GOOD CONTACT WITH THE RECEIVER, UHHUH , WE DID ACTUALLY PRETTY WELL OUR PARTICULAR EVENT. BUT WE WON'T GO THERE. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IT NOT, ARE NOT WITH US ANYMORE. RIGHT. AS YOU KNOW. SO GOD BLESS HER. SO RIGHT. . AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS FOR COLLABORATIONS CAUSE UH, THE COMMITTEE KNOWS WE HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND I CAN TELL THAT THIS COMMITTEE, I ALWAYS FEEL UNITED, WE RISE, DIVIDED WE FALL. I ALWAYS MAKE BIG EFFORTS TO COLLABORATE. NUMBER ONE WAS CHAMBER MUSIC, SEDONA, NUMBER TWO, SY UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COLLABORATION, UH, WELL, THIS YEAR, NOT SO MUCH WITH, UH, THE FILM FESTIVAL, THE ACOUSTICS THERE. AND WE TYPICALLY, OUR CONCERTS REQUIRE A PIANO. THEY DON'T HAVE A PIANO. MARY DE FISHER, UHHUH , UM, I MADE BIG, BIG EFFORTS. WELL, THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY HAVE, I WAS CONTACTED BY THE SEDONA SCHOOL OF BALLET MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . AND, UH, SAID, YEAH. AND, UH, AND WE HAVE A PERFORMANCE HERE. I BELIEVE IT'S IN OCTOBER. AND I SAID, YEAH, YOU CAN BRING YOUR STUDENTS AND, AND THEY CAN HAVE A LITTLE PERFORMANCE BEFORE OUR CONCERT. AND I LIKE COLLABORATION AND INCLUSION AND BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. UM, I THINK THEN YOU GET, YOU GET MORE AUDIENCE IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CONTACTS. RIGHT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW YOU GET IT. GET THE WORD OUT. EXACTLY. MM-HMM. . AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH THE LOCAL MEDIA AS MUCH AS THE, THE BUDGET ALLOWS. MM-HMM. , THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW, MARKETING IS VERY EXPENSIVE. IT IS. IT IS. WE GOT THAT. KUDOS. RED ROCK NEWS, MO MO. WE'RE ON A TIME SCHEDULE. OH, SORRY. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S MY JOB TO CALL IT UP. I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR, YOUR VISION AND, AND YOUR, UM, THE EXPANSE. I MEAN, FIVE CONCERTS IN A YEAR HERE IN SONSONA IS AMAZING THAT YOU CAN PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER. I THINK SO. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. I THANK YOU. WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I, FRANKLY, I HAD A VERY GRAND VISION WHEN I STARTED, AND I PITCHED IT TO, WELL, TO THE CITY. I, I USED TO COME TO APPOINTMENTS, TO MEETINGS AND WHAT I HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M VERY MUCH ATTUNED TO, UM, TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE FROM VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA. AND I WAS SITTING HERE IN, IN SOME MEETING YEARS AGO, AND WHEN I MENTIONED THE WORD FESTIVAL, AND I, I HEARD PEOPLE SAYING, OH, FESTIVAL, [00:35:01] IT'S GONNA BE POLLUTION. AND THIS , THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE, WHAT, WHAT THIS FESTIVAL IS ALL ABOUT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO, TO DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING BIG. UH, FROM, FROM DAY ONE, IT DID NOT EXACTLY TURN OUT TO BE THIS WAY. THE FIRST YEAR I PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE ORCHESTRA HERE. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. WE HAD 56 MUSICIANS AT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY TO VARIOUS FESTIVALS, UH, YOU KNOW, COLORADO. AND I CAN TELL YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IN VEIL, AND I ALWAYS BRING THIS, AND THEY SAY, WELL, SEDONA IS, IS NOT, IS NOT, THIS IS NOT THIS, YOU KNOW, VEIL IS KNOWN FOR SKIING. BUT YOU GO THERE IN THE SUMMERTIME AND THE PLACE IS FLOODED WITH HIGH QUALITY TOURISTS, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS TOWN WANTS, UH, HIGH INCOME. AND THEY BRING IN THREE OR FOUR MAJOR ORCHESTRAS TO VEIL. AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS TOWN WOULD DO NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE WITH THE MARKETING AND THE SEPARATION WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN. UM, YOU KNOW, I TRY TO PITCH IT TO, TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO, TO REALLY, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND, UH, UH, STILL BRING IN VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY. SOME OF OUR ARTISTS ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, ANY SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM THE CITY IS, IS, UH, HELPFUL. AND, UH, FRANKLY, YEAH, WE DO, WE DO ASK FOR SUPPORT FROM, UH, MANY VARIOUS SOURCES, WHICH IS NECESSARY. YEAH. VERY NECESSARY. SO THOSE NUMBERS WOULD HELP US. YEAH. NATIONAL LANDOW FOR THE ARTS. AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND YES, FRANKLY, NOT OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE HERE. MM-HMM. , UH, CANNOT FRANKLY BE SUSTAINED ONLY BY, UH, YEAH. FRANKLY, WE RETURNED DOWN BY THE YAVAPAI COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. YEAH. SO WE TURNED DOWN ZERO, AND THEN WE GET AN EMAIL. UH, YOU KNOW, 8% WAS DEDICATED TO ARTS AND CULTURE. 8%. SO WE WERE NOT IN THAT 8%. SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT WE ARE GETTING, UH, HERE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA. SO HOPEFULLY CITY OF SEDONA. YES. WE WILL APPLY TO SEDONA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. MM-HMM. . AND YOU SHOULD, AND, UH, WE WILL. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONORS AND NO, YOU DO, YOU DO WELL TO SUPPORT YOURSELF. WELL, SHE, I GOTTA CUT YOU OFF, HONEY. SURE. WE GOT SOMEONE RIGHT BEHIND US. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL SEND YOU CERTAIN INFORM. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK, THANKS, MOHI. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M SORRY. YOU'VE BEEN EMAILING KAREN AND I, SO JUST EMAIL THAT INFORMATION TO US. WE'LL GET IT TO THE C. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS, MOHI. BYE-BYE. DRIVE CAREFULLY. THANK YOU. YOU WANT A REFILL? NO, I JUST, I GOT UP A LOT. LAST JUMPED UP. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE HERE. STAY ON SCHEDULE. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. FIVE MINUTES. FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. BEFORE YOU CAME IN, STEPHANIE, I MENTIONED THE FACT THAT, UM, SINCE THE THANK YOU, THE TERM SEDONA RESIDENT HAS BEEN BROADENED HERE SLIGHTLY, GEORGE HERE COMING FIRST STREET, HE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE HE HAD MADE A, A SPECIFIC STATEMENT IN HIS PROPOSAL THAT HE WOULD REQUIRE PROOF OF SEDONA RESIDENCY FROM, UH, PARENTS GETTING BACKPACKS FROM THE KIDS. SO, HE'LL, AND HE PROBABLY DOESN'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE SORT OF BROADENED THAT SLIGHTLY TO INCLUDE SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO GO TO WEST SEDONA SCHOOL, LET'S SAY, BUT LIVE IN, IN RIVER BLOCK OR SOMEWHERE. YEAH. YEAH. UH, WELL, WE CAN, DIDN'T, DIDN'T HE MENTION THOUGH THAT STUDENTS, I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL ASK HIM. WELL, WE'LL JUST WE'RE, YOU CAN BRING IT TO HIS ATTENTION. GO AHEAD. YOU KNOW, JUST LET HIM KNOW WHEN HE COMES IN. SO I HAD ALSO ASKED THERESA IF SHE KNEW HOW MANY CHILDREN THERE WERE IN SEDONA THAT NEEDED THIS KIND OF HELP. I, I MADE SOME PHONE CALLS. OKAY. I JUST WENT TO THE US CENSUS DATA. I KIND OF WENT BEHIND THE SCENE THERE A LITTLE BIT. NO, GOOD. NO, THAT'S NOT BEHIND THE SCENE. YOU ARE PERFECTLY, THAT IS WHAT WE DO. YEAH, NO, I WAS DUPLICATION OF SERVICES IS WHAT I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE GIVING BACKPACKS TOO. WELL, YES. UH, I CALL OLD TOWN CO. OLD TOWN MISSION, FOR EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. GAVE AWAY LIKE THOUSANDS OF THEM LAST YEAR IN THEIR WHOLE, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR AREA HERE. AND I SAID, AND SO I CALLED THEM AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING, WHAT THEY TOLD ME IS THAT THIS YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO LET STREET HEAT DO IT. AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA COME AROUND AFTERWARDS WITH TRUCKS, FULLS OF BACKPACKS AND GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND SAY TO THE SCHOOLS, HOW MANY MORE DO YOU NEED? WHAT ARE YOU SHORT? [00:40:01] SO IT WAS KIND OF A REALLY INTEREST, THAT'S WHAT OLD TOWN MISSION TOLD ME, BECAUSE THE HOMELESS ALLIANCE DID IS WAY BACKPACKS TOO. SO DOES, AND THE FOOD BANK GIVES AWAY PACKAGES OF SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO THEIR CLIENTS. AND THE SANCTUARY GIVES AWAY SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO THEIR CLIENTS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S KIND OF IN A BIGGER AREA OF COURSE, TOO. BUT, UH, I WAS REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND HOW, HOW YOU CAN EVEN COME UP WITH NUMBERS. WELL, ACCORDING TO THE US CENSUS BUREAU, THERE ARE 170 CHILDREN AT THE POVERTY LEVEL IN SEDONA. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DETERMINE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE OH, OH, THEY DO THAT. YEAH, THEY DO THAT. OH YEAH. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHATEVER THEIR, THEY KNOW THAT POVERTY LEVEL IS. THEY DON'T SAY WHAT IT IS. GOOD. IT WELL SUPPLY. THE SUPPLIES ARE LIKE FOOD THOUGH. I MEAN, YOU GO THROUGH CRAYONS, YOU GO THROUGH PENCILS, YOU GO THROUGH. YEAH. I MEAN, SO I CAN SEE THAT RENEWING THAT, YOU KNOW, RENEWING THAT SUPPLY CHAIN. YEAH. FOR THE KIDS THAT MANZANITA OUTREACH SUPPLIES ARE FOR THE TEACHERS, RIGHT? YES. YES. I CALLED THEM TOO, EXCEPT FOR THE FOOD. THOSE FOOD PACK LAST YEAR THEY GAVE AWAY BACKPACKS TO EVERY KID IN WEST SEDONA. MANZANITA DID. BUT THAT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT THIS YEAR, UHHUH. SO I CAN, I LEARNED THAT. HMM. AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO, DON'T KIDS HAVE TO HAVE PA PACKS IN ORDER TO GO TO SCHOOL? I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S CRAZY. BUT, UM, AND I, I'VE CALLED, I, I DID NOT GET CALLBACKS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL PERSON WHO WAS IN, I LEFT A MESSAGE, DIDN'T GET A CALLBACK, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR IS THIS? IT'S A BUSY, CRAZY TIME OF THE YEAR FOR ENDS OF SCHOOLS AND STUFF. AND I, I DID TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL AT WEST SEDONA WHO WAS NEW AND DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, BUT, UH, SHE SAID, THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME. BACKPACKS AND SUPPLIES. THEY KIND OF STASH 'EM AWAY AND THEN WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS IT, THEY HAUL 'EM OUT. SO I LEARNED A LOT. WELL, YOU WONDER HOW MANY FAMILIES ARE IN NEED AT THIS POINT IN TIME. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL, THERE'S STILL A STIGMA ATTACHED TO THAT. OH YES, DEFINITELY. SO YOU HAVE CHILDREN AND PARENTS WHO ARE KIND OF HIDING THE NEED. WELL, YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE GREEN BACKPACKS, RIGHT? SPEED. YEAH. RIGHT. SO IT'S LIKE THERE MAY BE A HIDDEN NEED THERE THAT THE SCHOOLS OH YES. THE SCHOOLS KNOW ABOUT THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET EXPOSED TO. AND I COULD EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT TOO A LITTLE BIT. UM, WHEN I TALKED WITH OLD TOWN MISSION, UM, THAT GIVES AWAY ALL THESE BACKPACKS, THEY SAID THEY FOUND THAT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WON'T ASK BECAUSE IT'S NOT COOL. IT'S NOT COOL. IT'S NOT, YOU DON'T WANNA BE LOOKED DOWN UPON FOR ASKING. SO THAT'S WHY INSTEAD OF ASKING PEOPLE TO COME TO THEM TO GET IT, THEY GO TO THE SCHOOLS, THE, THE MISSION GOES TO THE SCHOOLS AND SAYS, HERE, HERE THEY ARE. YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. BECAUSE OF THE IMAGE CONCEPT. WELL, AND IF A TEACHER SEES A KID YES. THEN NEED, RIGHT. THEY'LL GO, THEY'LL GO TO THE WAREHOUSE AND PULL ONE OUT. YEAH. CAUSE IT, SO AS A COMMITTEE, DO YOU THINK IT'S USEFUL FOR THE CITY TO KIND OF PUT THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE SCHOOLS IN TERMS OF WE'RE AWARE OF THIS COORDINATION PIECE? YEAH. OH, VERY MUCH SO. YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO STRENGTHEN THE EXPECTATION. CUZ CUZ I KNOW LIKE GEORGE WAS TRYING TO REACH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND I HAD TO INTERVENE TO GET A RESPONSE. YEAH. I COULDN'T GIVE A RESPONSE EITHER SUPERINTENDENT. AND MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO PROACTIVELY EARLIER IN THE YEAR IS REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AWARE OF MULTIPLE THINGS MM-HMM. AND, AND WE'D LIKE MORE COORDINATION THERE. OKAY. THEY'RE COMING IN. SORRY, I COULDN'T DO WELCOME TO SEDONA. GOOD MORNING. MORNING UP THERE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. NICE. SURE. OH, THANK YOU. . WOULD YOU MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF? YEAH. MY NAME IS GEORGE VAUGHN. I'M THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF STREET HEAT MINISTRY. YES. THIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT, DORIS R. ROSS VAUGHN. AND WE, WE THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT, WHATEVER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. DO I SEND NEPOTISM THERE? I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? NEPOTISM THERE. I YOU'RE RIGHT. . WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. UM, GO AHEAD PANEL. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ASK DEVON? WELL, I, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS. I, I'M PATTY AND, UH, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST THE NUMBERS OF STUDENTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO REACH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT I LEARNED IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO OTHER, UH, GRANT PROPOSALS IS THAT THE CITY OF SEDONA HAS RECENTLY, UH, KIND OF CHANGED THEIR DEFINITION FOR PURPOSES, CERTAIN PURPOSES ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS A SEDONA RESIDENT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN YOUR PROPOSAL, YOU SAID WE'RE GOING TO ASK, UH, THE FAMILIES [00:45:01] TO SHOW, SERVE THAT THEY ARE SEDONA RESIDENTS. MM-HMM. . WELL, WHAT HAS BEEN BROADENED NOW IS IF, IF YOU ARE A CHILD GOING TO A SEDONA SCHOOL, EVEN IF YOU DO NOT LIVE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY BOUNDARIES OF SEDONA, THAT CHILD WILL BE CONSIDERED A RESONANCE. SO THAT THEREFORE YOUR, YOU MIGHT WANNA KNOW THAT YOU ARE BROADENING, ESSENTIALLY MAY BE SCHOOL CHILDREN. PARTICULARLY IN, IN THAT RESPECT. YEAH. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE TAILORED THE GRANT SPECIFICALLY FOR SEDONA, BECAUSE IN YOUR GRANT APPLICATION RIGHT. YOU HAD EMPHASIZING THAT YOU, YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON SEDONA. EXACTLY. AND SO WE HAD GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. WE SAID, WELL, OKAY, LET'S TAILOR THIS BACK TO SCHOOL PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR SEDONA RESIDENT. AND ALSO IN YOUR APPLICATION, IT, IT HAS ONE OF THE PROVISIONS, HOW WOULD YOU MEASURE YES. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SEDONA RESIDENT AND YES. A SUBSIDIARY DIVISION LIKE COTTONWOOD. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY WE TAILORED IT FOR SEDONA RESIDENT. RIGHT. AND, AND THEN THIS IS A RECENT SORT OF REINTERPRETATION, YOU SEE JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, WEEKS AGO. YEAH. MM-HMM. . SO WE JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT, UM OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SWEAT THAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AS CAREFUL ABOUT, UM, OKAY. UH, LOOKING AT DRIVER'S LICENSES, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF THE KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL HERE. OKAY. AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, REASONS WHY WE WERE TRYING TO BE VERY, VERY THOROUGH AND SAY, WELL, OKAY, THIS IS HOW WE GOING TO ATTRACT AND THIS IS HOW WE GOING TO APPROVE. YES. AND SAY, OKAY, THIS PROGRAM IS PRETTY MUCH TARGETED AT SEDONA RESIDENCE. MM-HMM. , HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH 240? I I BASED IT ON THE POPULATION OF SEDONA. THEN I BASED IT ON THE AMOUNT OF GRANT MONEY. UH, BECAUSE THE GRANT MONEY, THE APPLICATION SAID IT RANGES FROM THE GRANT APPLICATION RANGE FROM, UH, 20,000 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 2000. AND I BASED IT ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE USE IN LAS VEGAS BUDGET WISE. CUZ I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER, I DID NOT WANT TO, UH, SAY, WELL, OKAY, WELL WE GOING TO SERVE 2000 PEOPLE OR 1000 PEOPLE AND THEN THE COST GOES UP. SO THE NUMBER TWO 50, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOING TO COST FOR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, MATERIAL LOAN ALMOST $5,000. AND THEN LITTLE ADMINISTRATION COST. SO THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER. BUT THAT, SO, SO YOUR TWO 40 IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU HAVE. IT IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF, UH, SUPPLIES. CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BACKPACKS COST SUPPLIES, RIGHT? YES, EXACTLY. SO IT'S NOT BASED ON YOU THINK THERE'S 240 SPECIFIC KIDS WHO WOULD NEED A BACKPACK. IT'S BASED ON THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AND LET'S HOPE IT WORKS. IT'S BASED ON A COMBINATION OF BOTH. OKAY. BECAUSE WE ALWAYS CAN GO OVER AND WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT RESERVED BACKPACK TO SAY, WELL, OKAY, IF WE REACHED 250 BACKPACKS, OKAY, YOU GOING TO HAVE THAT RE RESERVED MM-HMM. . AND BY THIS BEING THE VERY FIRST ONE, WE GOING TO GET THE FEEL OF HOW MANY CHILDREN IS OUT THERE. OKAY. IN SEDONA. AND FROM WHAT WE HAVE CAME UP WITH BY VISITING THE VARIOUS SCHOOLS AND THE AMOUNT OF COUNSELINE THAT WE HAVE DONE, THERE'S A LOT OF CHILDREN OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS. CAN YOU PAINT ME A PICTURE OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THESE BACKPACKS? YEAH, WE ARE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE 'EM AT THE WYNDHAM RESORT. NOW IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY RECEIVED A COPY OF OUR LATEST FLYER THAT WE PUT OUT. IF NOT, I HAVE COPIES WITH ME. UH, ON AUGUST 1ST, WE ARE GOING TO BE VOLUNTARILY SETTING UP ALL OF THE BACKPACKS ON AUGUST PHASE FIRST. WE ARE GOING TO STUFF ALL OF THE, UH, BACKPACK WITH THE SUPPLIES. ON AUGUST 2ND, THE RESIDENT WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO THE WYNDHAM AND PICK UP ALL OF THE SCHOOL SUPPLIES. UH, WE HAVE DONE MASSIVE CANVASING AND AS OF TODAY WE HAVE REACHED OVER 75 TO 135 SMALL BUSINESSES. AND WE ALSO HAVE CANVAS. A LOT OF THE AREAS HERE IN SEDONA, WE HAVE REACHED OVER 150 RESIDENTS HERE. AND SO THE WORD IS OUT THERE AND WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE RESPONSE. SO, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE, A LOT OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT WORK AT THE WINDHAM THAT ARE SEDONA RESIDENTS THAT'S PUTTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE. SO THE [00:50:01] NETWORKING HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING AND IT HAS BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. AND THAT'S WHY WE INITIATED THIS BACK IN MARCH BECAUSE DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT INITIATE A SUCCESSFUL BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVE AND SAID, OKAY, THE GRANT IS GOING TO BE AWARDED IN JULY. JULY, JULY, WE GOT THREE WEEKS, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. NO, EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MADE A BUSINESS DECISION TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE LIKE SEDONA, WE HAVE BEEN LICENSED HERE FOR THE, THE LAST NINE YEARS. THIS IS LIKE OUR SECOND HOME. AND, UH, NOW THAT WE ARE OFFICIALLY RETIRED, WE WANT TO INITIATE MORE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES HERE IN SEDONA. WONDERFUL. I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT YOU HAD ON YOUR LIST HERE MM-HMM. . AND SO EDUCATE ME. I I I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE WRONG OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM. I WAS SURPRISED AT 46% FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN THE, IN THE PROPOSAL. THAT SEEMED, THAT SEEMED HIGH TO ME. AND THEN SO I LOOKED DOWN AND LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAID, UH, RENT AND TRAVEL. SO DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR TRAVEL EXPENSES FROM LAS VEGAS? YES. THAT'S, THAT'S INCLUDED. THE TRAVEL EXPENSE. MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE ALL OF THE EXPENSES RIGHT HERE. IT HAVE, I HAVE EVERYTHING BROKEN DOWN ON MM-HMM. ADMINISTRATION COSTS NOW. AND THE REASON WHY THAT IS, I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO FIX IT WHERE YOU WANT TO GET A BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. MEANING THAT THE 46% OF THE ADMINISTRATION COST THAT COVERS THE TRAVEL, THAT COVERS THE EXPENSES FOR THE RENTING OF THE, UH, ROOMS. THAT COVERS ALL OF THE EXPENSES FOR MARKETING. WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF MARKETING. YES. EXAMPLE, LAST NIGHT I RAN OUTTA FLYERS, HAD TO GO BUY MORE FLYERS, 300 COPIES MM-HMM. , HUNDRED AND $94 LAST MONTH. SAME THING. MM-HMM. ANOTHER MM-HMM. , UH, THE ADMINISTRATION COSTS ON ADVERTISING, BUT CAP AT $500. WE ARE ABOUT THERE NOW. AND SO THE ADMINISTRATION COST COVERS EVERYTHING. AND TO BE LOOKING AT THE, UH, NUMBERS, WE PRETTY MUCH IS DONATING 50% OF OUR TIME. REALLY? THAT YEAH. YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. YES. YEAH, YEAH. MANY OF YOU, RIGHT? ALL YOU'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS. ALL YES. YES. WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE, WE DO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PAID SALARIES. YEAH. WE, UH, WE JUST, WE ARE NONPROFIT, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION. WE'RE NOT IN IT TO MAKE MONEY. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR MOTTO. OUR MOTTO IS COMMUNITY OUTREACH. COMMUNITY SERVICE. AND GOD HAS BLESSED US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE, THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. WE'RE NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. MM-HMM. GEORGE, WE WE'RE ON A TIME SCHEDULE. I I HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, FOR YOU EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING OLD. SO , THAT'S WHY IN AND OUT, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. IT HAD SOMETHING THAT IT WAS PONY ON. IS THERE IS THE RENT FIGURE FOR THE ROOF IN THE WINDOM? RENT. RENT? THAT WAS IT. IS THAT FOR THE WYNDHAM RENTAL? NO, JUST FOR THE RENTAL OF THE ROOM WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ACTIVITY. OKAY. THAT'S THE WINDHAM, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT HERE. I THINK OUR RIGHT HERE. YES. YES. MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT WAS EXACTLY MY QUESTION. OH YEAH. I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THE PUBLIC LIBRARY MIGHT DONATE THE COMMUNITY ROOM. AWESOME. SO, OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW, YOU CAN CONTACT, UM, THERESA AND SHE CAN GET OKAY. YOU MIGHT GIVE YOU MY NUMBER AND UM, WE'LL WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET THE COMMUNITY ROOM DONATED. SO THAT WOULD KIND OF LITTLE BIT OFF THE TOP. AND BY THIS BEING THE VERY FIRST ONE, THE WAY THAT WE LOOKED AT IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, WE ARE OWNERS AT THE WYNDHAM AND WE HAVE BEEN OWNERS THERE FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS. SO, UH, NOT HAVING ALL OF THE CONTACTS THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE SAID, WELL, LET'S DO IT AT THE WINDHAM. CAUSE WE COULD RENT, WE RENT THE ROOM AT COST AND FOR THOSE TWO DAYS, I THINK THE RENTAL IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT THREE TO MAYBE $500. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THE, THE, UH, WINDHAM. NO, THAT'S FINE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. NOW YOU'RE, WE CAN EMBRACE YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY. YES, YES, YES. AND WE CAN START NETWORKING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE COSTS CAN BE ALLEVIATED. YES MA'AM. IT, I TOTALLY, BUT WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE DO SO GREAT. AND, UH, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN JUST A ONE TIME SHOP WHERE WE HAVE A, A DESIRE AND A VISION TO MAKE THIS ANNUALLY MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, A A STABILIZED COMMUNITY PROGRAM WHERE EVERY YEAR THE RESIDENTS AND THE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. SAID NO, THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A COMMUNITY. WE HAVE THIS FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, EVERY [00:55:01] YEAR. AND THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR CITY HALL AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR USUAL SUSPECTS THAT COME IN EACH YEAR AND THAT'S GOOD TO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO TO HELP US OUT WITH THAT, JUST BE SURE AND THAT YOU LOOK LIKE A NUMBERS GUY. SO JUST BE SURE TO KEEP THOSE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO YOU'RE SEEING, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHO THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, AND WE'D BE VERY INTERESTED TOO, TO KNOW, EVEN THOUGH OUR, OUR DEFINITION OF RESIDENTS HAS EXPANDED, UM, IF IT'S STILL COMFORTABLE FOR YOU TO FIND OUT HOW MANY ARE ACTUAL RESIDENTS VERSUS HOW MANY ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN HERE IN SCHOOLS THAT MIGHT BE WORKING IN SEDONA BUT LIVE ELSEWHERE. JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WE'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, BREAK YOUR ARM FOR THAT. BUT, UH, CUZ OUR DEFINITION HAS BROADENED CUZ WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE TOO. UM, THEY'RE A FOUNDATION IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE DEFINITION IS KIND OF FILTERED OUT, BUT WE GOTTA BE SURE IT DOESN'T GET OUT OF CONTROL TOO. YEAH. AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING DURING THE PROCESS OF THE EVENT, WE HAVE A SURVEY APPLICATION ALREADY. GOOD. AND WE GOING ASK THE PEOPLE TO FILL OUT A FORM, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR EMAIL LIST THIS, THIS WAY NOW WE CAN PRETTY MUCH PINPOINT RESIDENTS HARMONY AND THE FAMILIES SO FORTH IS SO ON. BLESS YOU. BLESS YOU. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. BUT THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE. YEAH. WELL ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN LAS VEGAS. NO, I, I IF YOU COULD LEAVE A FLYER, WE'D SURE LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE SEDONA FOLKS GET. GOOD. SURE. IF WE HAVE TO GO EACH YEAR AND GET ON OUR KNEES AND THE COUNCIL , IF WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE SOME EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE TO, TO GIVE, THAT MAKES OUR JOB A WHOLE LOT EASIER THAN MONEY FOR YOU. YOU GUYS. I HATE TO CUT YOU OFF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WE HAVE, UM, PEOPLE WE GOTTA SEE TODAY. OKAY. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND IF YOU'RE DRIVING BACK TO LAS VEGAS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL ON THAT ROAD. THANK YOU. 40 IS, 40 IS TOUGH. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH FLYERS THERE? YES. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GEORGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL WE COULD TALK A LOT MORE WITH WHAT OH YEAH, WE, WELL BELIEVE WE COULD VENT, WE COULD TAKE THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING SAID THAT ABOUT THE LICENSE. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR LICENSE TO VERIFY THAT THEIR RESIDENTS NO, NO. BUT WE WILL HAVE THE FORM FOR THEM A SURVEY THAT WE WANNA, SO WE'LL KNOW WHO'S COMING. YEAH. OKAY. DON'T PARTICULAR FLYER WENT OUT, UH, ON EMAIL AS OF JUNE 1ST AND THAT SAME FLYER, THE CHAIN OF A IS GONNA BE RUNNING THROUGHOUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND THE ONLY THING THAT MIGHT CHANGE ON THAT FLYER, THAT IS THE, UH, VENDORS YOU GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK A GOOD NIGHT. HAVE A GREAT DAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. REAL FUN. OH, THESE GUYS OKAY. MARTY AND KEVIN. NICE. I CAN SEE HIM STANDING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. TERESA, YOU WANNA GRAB THEM? JUST GRAB THEM? SURE. JUST YOU GUYS ARE READY IN THE CORNER. YEAH, WE HAVE TO STAY ON TIME. READY? FRANK FOR YOU. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO SEE YOU BOTH. HELLO. THANK YOU. HEY MARTY, HOW ARE YOU? HELLO. REALLY KEVIN, HOW ARE YOU? HI. HEY KEVIN. HOW'S HOT SEAT? GOOD. YEAH. YOU RIDING HERE? YEAH. THAT'S WHY I'M DRESSED LIKE THIS. . YOU'RE ALWAYS DRESSED LIKE THAT. ? NO, I ALWAYS WEAR A HAT. I OH, YOU JUST, BUT YEAH, I USUALLY HAVE A SHORT OYSTER ON YOU DO USE HIM A T. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE PANEL? FIRE AWAY WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO TELL US? I MEAN, I THINK YOU GUYS JUST DO A GREAT JOB. YOU KEEP EXPANDING YOUR PROGRAM EVERY SINGLE YEAR. PRETTY EXCITING. YEAH. AND YOU'RE GOOD ABOUT COLLECTING YOUR DATA. WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE ABOUT THAT. ABOUT TWO DOZEN KIDS, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, AT ANY ONE TIME. 19 KIDS. MM-HMM. , UH, BUT THEN KIDS ROTATE IN AND OUT DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. MM-HMM. , UH, WE HAVE A WAITING LIST AND THEN, UH, NOT ALL RE SO WE GET NEW KIDS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, IN THE SPRING, FROM THE FALL. WE GET SOME NEW ONES. WOULD YOU DESCRIBE A COUPLE OF KIDS FOR US IN GENERAL TERMS? WELL, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE KIDS ARE GETTING FREE OR REDUCED PRICE LUNCHES. MM-HMM. AT THE SCHOOL. UH, MANY [01:00:01] OF 'EM ARE COMING FROM MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOMES. UH, SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, SINGLE PARENT HOMES. UH, NOT SO MUCH INSIDE OF SEDONA BUT ELSEWHERE. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE A PARENT THAT'S INCARCERATED. UH, SO THE KIDS GOTTA LOVE 'EM. THEY, THEIR HOME LIVES IN MANY CASES AREN'T IDEAL, BUT THEY'RE JUST DELIGHTFUL. AND, UH, WE JUST, LAST WEEK, UH, WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, SEDONA LAST WEEK. WE, UH, GOT A BUS AND BUSED 13 KIDS UP TO FIND STAFF EVERY DAY. AND HAD A CAMP WHERE WE TOOK 'EM RIDING IN THE PINES AND UH, IT WAS 13 KIDS AND A COUPLE OF 'EM COULDN'T RIDE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK ON FRIDAY THEY ALL WENT ON AN EIGHT MILE MOUNTAIN BIKE RIDE. COOL DANCING, COULDN'T RIDE HIS, WELL, THERE WAS ONE KID DIDN'T KNOW HOW, HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO RIDE. AND BY, THIS IS ON TUESDAY, HE WAS USING WHAT WE CALL FRED FLY STONE BREAKS. MM-HMM. PUTS HIS FEET UP. YEAH. ON WE, AND WE WORKED WITH HIM EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND ON FRIDAY HE DID AN EIGHT MILE RIDE UP AT CAMPBELL MESA. JUST HAD A WONDERFUL TIME ON, ON A ON NOT PAVEMENT, ON DIRT. ON DIRT ON DIRT. DIRT ON DIRT. SINGLE TRACK ON SINGLE TRACK. THERE'S ROCKS IN THERE. YEAH. BABY HEADS AND YEP. . THAT'S RIGHT. FORTUNATELY THERE AREN'T AS MANY CACTUS UP THERE , BUT THERE'S TREES TO RUN INTO. AND WE'VE HAD KIDS THAT RUN INTO TREES. SO, AND THEN WE DO, UH, A SPRING BREAK CAMP, A FALL BREAK CAMP, UH, FOR THE KIDS. AND WE DO, WE DON'T DO 'EM HERE INSIDE OF SEDONA. WE, WE DO 'EM EITHER AT UH, OAK CREEK SCHOOL IN COTTONWOOD, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL THE SCHOOL PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS. UH, BUT THAT, WE DIDN'T PUT THAT PART INTO THE GRANT. BUT ALL PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS GET TO DO IT CUZ WE BUILD A BIKE SKILLS PARK OVER THERE. RIGHT. ON THE CAMPUS. AND I'LL TELL YOU A FUNNY STORY THAT I KNEW STEPHANIE WILL APPRECIATE. I GOT A 12 YEAR OLD KID TO WRITE A GRANT FOR THE NATIONAL PARK TRUST FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS. HE DID ALL OF THE WORK. I SAT THERE WITH HIS MOM AS HE WROTE THE GRANT. UH, WE LET HIS SPELLING ERRORS GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND HE WON. HE GOT A THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT PAID FOR THE BUS. LASTLY, PART OF WHAT HE HAD TO DO WAS TO GET HIS ENTIRE CLASS TO WRITE LETTERS TO CONGRESSMAN CRANE, SENATOR KELLY SENATORS TO GET THE FOREST SERVICE OFF THE DIME. BECAUSE RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL IS A 90 ACRE PARCEL THAT, UH, ONCE THE FOREST SERVICE APPROVES IT, WE'RE GONNA PUT THREE MILES OF SINGLE TRACK IN THERE. SO I CALLED UP AMY TINDER HOLE AND I SAID, AMY, YOU'RE GONNA GET A CONGRE, SOME SEVERAL CON . AND SHE GOES, WHAT ABOUT? AND I TOLD HER ABOUT YOU GOES, THESE WILL BE THE BEST CON EVER. . THAT'S GREAT. NO, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT STORY. YEAH. GOOD FOR YOU. THAT'S A REAL WAY TO MOTIVATE THEM. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US? JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR I DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. MARTY HAS DONE IT TOO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR READING ALL THE GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN AND ALL YOUR WORK TO DO THAT. IT'S, IT'S A THANKLESS JOB THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU GUYS REALLY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THOUGH, IN TERMS OF, UH, DEALING WITH THE KIDS. I THINK JUST, UH, I MEAN, YOU COULD DO A REAL MINIMALIST JOB, BUT I, BUT WE KNOW YOU DON'T WELL. WELL, KEVIN ALWAYS SAYS IS WE'VE GOT THE BEST VOLUNTEER JOB IN THE WORLD. WE GET TO RIDE BIKES WITH KIDS, . AND YOU SEE THE SMILES ON THEIR FACES AND THEIR IMPROVEMENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS VOLUNTEERS, WE'RE, WE'RE TRAINED, YOU KNOW, HOW TO BEHAVE AROUND CHILDREN, WHICH IS NORMAL. AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, TRY NOT TO HUG THE KIDS. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . AND THEN WE ALWAYS SAY, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE KIDS COME RUNNING UP TO US AND JUST NEED THE HUGS AND WANT THE HUGS. IT'S, IT'S SPECIAL. IT'S A VERY SPECIAL THING WITH THESE CHILDREN. YES. AND MOST OF OUR, OUR MOST OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE GRANDPARENTS. SO I, I CALL IT THE SERGEANT GRANDPARENT BRIGADE THAT GETS TO WORK WITH THE KIDS. SO THEY LOVE IT TOO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GREAT. AND BOY, BOYS AND GIRLS BOTH RIGHT. NEXT. YEAH. AND, AND AT SEDONA, THE TWO SCHOOLS WE HAVE IN SEDONA, THE HEAD COACHES ARE, ARE WOMEN. MM-HMM. , UH, LORI GONZALEZ, WHO LIVES DOWN IN THE, BOTH OF 'EM LIVE IN THE VILLAGE. THE LORI GONZALEZ OVER AT, UH, WEST SEDONA AND PAM OVER AT THE JUNIOR HIGH. AND PAM IS A CERTIFIED MOUNTAIN BIKE INSTRUCTOR. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, , YOU KNOW, FOR, I FIGURED IT OUT. I THINK IT COSTS, UH, ABOUT $6 AND 58 CENTS PER KID PER HOUR. UH, WHAT WE DO HERE IN SEDONA AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET CHILDCARE FOR THAT [01:05:01] . AND, AND I LIKE, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, DO YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT OUR, OUR QUALIFIED, UH, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION STATUS THROUGH CHILDCARE PROVIDING BY, YOU KNOW, THE BIKES THAT TRANSPORTATION FOR KIDS. HUH? THEY WOULD ONLY DO THAT FOR ADULTS. AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, HOW DO WE DO IT? AND LADY GOES, WELL, AREN'T YOU TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN? YEAH. FOR YOU. SHE GOES, THIS IS CHILDCARE. PUT CHILDCARE OUT THERE THAT WAY. DEPARTMENT . SO, SO I LIKE TO SAY WE, UH, WE ARE DOING, UM, CHILDCARE TO DISGUISED AS VENTURE EDUCATION. OKAY. SAY WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? 6 58. IT'S ABOUT $6 AND 58 CENTS CUZ IT'S, WE CONVENED 60 TIMES A YEAR, YOU KNOW, 30 TIMES IN THE FALL. 30 TIMES IN THE SPRING AT THE TWO SCHOOLS, TWO HOURS PER CONVENING. IT'S 120 HOURS. AND THAT'S, WE SEDONA WHAT THE, YES. SO CAUSE AREN'T YOU DOING THIS OVER AT RED ROCK TOO? MM-HMM. AT THE JUNIOR HIGH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE JUNIOR HIGH LEVEL YEAH. AT THE JUNIOR HIGH. YEAH. CAUSE ERIC TAKES OVER AFTER THAT, RIGHT? YE YES. WON. YEAH. AND, AND WE FOUND THAT ONCE THE KIDS HIT HIGH SCHOOL, WELL ACTUALLY ONCE THE GIRLS START HITTING ABOUT WHEN THEY DISCOVER MAKEUP UHHUH , WE LOSE THE GIRLS FIRST. AND THEN ONCE THE BOYS HIT HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY START FIGURING OUT THE GIRLS, THEN WE LOSE THE GIRLS. UNLESS THEY'RE REALLY INTO IT. AND, AND WE LIKE TO SAY, WE'RE ERIC'S FARM TEAM. UHHUH, . NO, EXACTLY. SO THE SIX, DOES THE 6 58 ALSO EXTEND TO THE JUNIOR HIGH? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A TOTAL COST PER STUDENT, YOU KNOW, AT THE TWO. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD STAFF BECAUSE IF WE HAVE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST GETTING ON A BIKE. IT'S ALL THE, IT'S THE, IT'S THE HOLISTIC DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. WE TEACH 'EM TRAIL ETIQUETTE. MM-HMM. , STEPHANIE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS MOUNTAIN BIKERS WE GOT TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LACK OF TRAIL ETIQUETTE ABOUT MOUNTAIN BIKERS. AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WHAT BEST WAY TO DO SO LET'S START TEACHING 'EM IN SCHOOL. NO, YOU'RE SINGING TO THE CHOIR HERE. OH, I KNOW, I KNOW WELL, IT'S FUN UP IN, IN FLAG WHEN SOME OF THE CHILDREN WERE IN FRONT OF US, SOME BEHIND. AND, UH, WE STARTED TO GO DOWN A HILL AND THERE WAS A GROUP OF BIKERS COMING UP. OH. AND WITHOUT BEING TOLD, THEY ALL PULLED OVER, STOPPED AND PULLED OVER THE SIDE. AND WE, WE THANKED THEM ALL AND YEAH, IT'S NICE TO SEE IT. GOOD JOB. AND THEN WE'D GIVE THEM, UH, THE, THE LAST DAY AT FLAGSTAFF IS I DO A FUNDRAISER RIDE FOR BUILDING TRAILS AND STUFF LIKE THAT EVERY FRIDAY. UH, AND IN THE SUMMER I DO IT UP AT FLAGSTAFF AND WE GIVE THE MONEY TO FLAGSTAFF BIKING ORGANIZATION AND I, I PUT OUT MY HELMET AND PUT SOME SEED MONEY IN IT. AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, ADULT BEVERAGES FOR THE ADULTS AND ROOT BEER FOR THE KIDS AND WHAT WE CALL ORANGE FOOD. AND ORANGE FOOD IS ANY FOOD WITH AN ENT. SO, YOU KNOW, PRESERVATIVES, ADDITIVES, LAXATIVES, , . AND LAST FRIDAY WE GAVE EACH KID $5 AND SAID, IT'S YOUR CHOICE. YOU CAN KEEP IT. OR YOU CAN DONATE TO THE TRIPS. EVERY ONE OF THE KIDS EVERY YEAR DONATES IT CUZ THEY SEE THE VALUE, WHATEVER NEEDS STEWARD. AND, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TEACH STEWARDSHIP AND MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, HOW TO RESPECT PUBLIC LANDS CUZ THAT'S NOT TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS ANYMORE. OH, LISTEN, I MEAN, THAT'S SO VALUABLE. I CAN'T TELL YOU GUYS. YOU'RE GREAT. THANK YOU. LOT OF TIME. I COULD SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF ALL DAY, BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WISH YOU HAD A HUNDRED KIDS. YEAH, WELL, I WISH SO TOO. BUT YOU KNOW, AN ENTIRETY OF THE PROGRAM, WE'RE UP TO 750 KIDS, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE VERDE VALLEY. AND THEN WE'RE IN MORANA AND WE'RE IN BENSON. YEAH. AND OH MY GOD. YEAH. SO, UH, AND, AND THE THE 750 IS, WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED WRITING FOR FOCUS. MM-HMM IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS WHERE, UH, THREE OF THE FOUR COTTONWOOD CREEK MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE DOING IT. AND WHEN WE BUILD THE BIKE PARK AT DR. DANIEL BRIGHT, THEY WILL DO IT TOO. SO WE'LL HAVE OVER A THOUSAND KIDS RIDING WITH US EVERYWHERE, YOU KNOW, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GOOD JOB BOTH. THANK YOU. JUST BOTH. LOVE. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING NOW. I'M GONNA RIDE HOME , TAKE CARE OF YOU GUYS. THEY SAY ORGANIZED GRANT APPLICATIONS. OH. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE WONDERFUL IDEAS AND THEIR GRANT APPLICATIONS REQUIRE HELP. YOUR GRANT APPLICATIONS ARE ALWAYS ORGANIZED AND CLEAR. THE GRANT WRITER IN THE VALLEY. YES. THAT'S ALSO VERY APPRECIATIVE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S IMPACTFUL. I ALREADY SAY HI TO I'LL SEE YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. . NO, I THINK IF I WAS EVER GONNA START A NONPROFIT, I'D JUST TRACK HIM DOWN AND ASK HIM HOW HE YEAH. NO, HE'S, OH, HE'S SO MUCH ENERGY. INCREDIBLE. YEAH. YEAH. OH YES. IT'S ONE THING TO [01:10:01] HAVE AN IDEA, BUT TO BACK IT WITH ALL THE ORGANIZATION AND STRUCTURE AND THE PLAN AND THE GRANT WRITING. YEAH. AND THE GRANT WRITING AND THE ENTHUSIASM. HE WAS ENTHUSIASM. HE'S JUST BOTH. YEAH. PROBABLY A GREAT USE OF ALL HIS ENERGY. . HE'S A HIGH ENERGY GUY. WELL, THANKS FOR COMING YOU GUYS A MOMENT TO CATCH YOUR BREATH. SOME YEARS. IT'S LIKE, THERE'S JUST THIS CLOCKWORK AND EVERYBODY'S DONE ON TIME. AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE MORE TO DISCUSS. THERE'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLEXITY. SO I CAN SEE WE'RE JUST, THAT EXTRA FIVE MINUTES IS IMPORTANT. YES, I THINK IT IS. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. JUST TO, I KNOW THERE WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE SCHEDULED ALL OF GRANT MEETINGS AND WE PUT 10 MINUTES. WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE. WE PUT 10 MINUTES BETWEEN APPOINTMENT AND YOU GUYS WERE ALL GOING. OH. OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. AND THIS YEAR, FIVE SEEMS JUST LIKE, MAYBE WE COULD USE SEVEN, BUT EVERYTHING FIVE IS DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT, YEAH. SO YEAH, WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAN USUAL. SO. WELL, I WAS WONDERING HOW YOU'RE GONNA CRAM 'EM ALL IN IN ONE DAY. . YEAH. YOU DID IT. YOU DID. YEAH. YEAH. NO, WE'RE, WE'RE SCHEDULED. BUT YOU GUYS ARE A REAL SHARP TEAM AND YOU'RE FOCUSED AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO ASK AND ALL THE HOMEWORK'S DONE. SO THAT WORKS OUT WELL. A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AGAIN THIS YEAR. SO THEY'LL ALL NEXT YEAR HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESSES. I TOOK MORE TIME WITH WITH READING THOSE VERY, VERY AS THOROUGHLY AS I COULD. YEAH. THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THE OTHERS WERE KIND OF PREDICTABLE IN A WAY. YEAH. MANY, MANY, NOT ALL, BUT WELL, THEY, THEY KNOW THEIR STUFF. BUT AS WITH SO MANY OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T AT FIRST. NO, NO. YES. YEAH. YOU'D BE THE TEACHER THERE. OH NO. I'LL HAVE, TRUST ME. YOU READY? THIS HAS NOT BEEN A, THIS HAS NOT BEEN A ONE PERSON EFFORT BY ANY MEANS. I MEAN, I CONSIDER CITY STAFF TERESA AND JUST EVERYBODY. WE WORK AS A VERY SEAMLESS TEAM AND I THINK IT'S GREAT AND IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER WHEN WE GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE THAT CRED. OKAY. WHERE ARE WE? THIS IS ONE OF THE CITY SHOWCASE PROGRAMS. OKAY. WHAT DO WE HAVE? YEAH. HI. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD SEAT. HOT. OKAY. UM, WE GET TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS FIRST, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, THEN HI, CARL. HI. . FAMILIAR FACE. YEAH. . UM, HOW'S YOUR EFFORT GOING? I MEAN, YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE, UM, YOU TOOK OUR SUGGESTION OR OUR REQUEST ACTUALLY LAST YEAR THAT YOU TRIED TO SOLICIT EACH OF THE FOLKS, EACH OF THE BUSINESSES TO PITCH IN ON THE, UM, UH, LIGHT CHANGING EFFORT MM-HMM. , AND I SENSED THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THAT. CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WITH US? YEAH. WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WAS BECAUSE IT WAS STILL THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE STARTED MM-HMM. WITH THE DECEMBER OF, UH, 2020. AND SO I THINK WHEN, WHEN WE WENT AROUND AND TALKED TO THE BUSINESSES, THEY WERE NOT DOING WELL AT THE TIME. AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND JUST SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HELD HERE TO HELP. THEY, THEY JUST WEREN'T CONVINCED ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN, IF WE GOT IN THE DOOR AND WE GOT TO TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT HAD SOME POWER, THEY REALIZED THAT, OH, THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING AND WE DEFINITELY WANNA, YOU KNOW, TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. SO IT JUST DEPENDED ON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHO, WHO WAS THERE AND HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE COULD GET. SOMETIMES THEY WERE VERY RELUCTANT TO GIVE ME THE, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. MM-HMM. , I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST, IT WAS JUST KIND OF THE TIMING, I THINK. I THINK WHEN YOU PASS YOUR, UM, YOUR, UM, LAND, UH, UH, ORDINANCE OR I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE, UM, WHAT AM I TRYING TO THINK OF? THE CODES MM-HMM. TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S GRANDFATHERED IN NOW HAS TO CHANGE, UM, TO DARK SKY. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO UP OUR GAME. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE PLANNING. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YES. TO CHANGE THAT MM-HMM. , OH, UH, BY 2 20 28, I THINK. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A BIG SECRET [01:15:01] OR STILL ON THE BEANS HERE. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. SO THAT WILL, I, I'M THINKING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE UP AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY ON OUR GAME BY THEN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL BE COMING TO US MM-HMM. CALLING US, AND WE WON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND TRY TO REEL PEOPLE IN, UM, BUSINESSES AND, AND WHATNOT. SO WE'VE, WE'RE DEVELOPING A BANK OF LIGHTING THAT WE CAN TAKE TO BUSINESSES. UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT LIGHTS OUT THERE NOW THAT WE CAN TAKE PEOPLE TOO, SO THEY CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, LIGHT THEY PUT OUT MM-HMM. AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. CAN YOU GIVE US, UM, NUMBERS AND IMPACT OF LAST YEAR, PAST YEAR? WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING? YEAH. FOR THE LAST YEAR WE FINISHED UP STEAKHOUSE 89 A, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON NS AND WE'RE JUST ABOUT DONE WITH THAT. AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO DONE A, UH, I GUESS A, A PLAN FOR HOSE HO, WHICH IS REALLY NEEDING SOME LIGHTING. . I MEAN, THEY, THEIR SPOTLIGHTS SHINE INTO THE CARS AS THEY'RE DRIVING BY. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO GET OF COURSE A MIX OF, YOU KNOW, LARGER BUSINESS, SMALLER BUSINESSES AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW HAVE OFFERED TO DO ALL OF THE, UH, INSTALL, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS GONNA BE THE CASE IN THE FUTURE. WELL, I'M, I'M CERTAIN THAT'S, CUZ YOU KNOW, THE SMALL RESTAURANTS THAT WE WENT TO, THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY TRYING TO SCRIMP BY. SO TO EVEN DO THE, UM, THE INSTALL IS GONNA BE ROUGH FOR THEM. SO, UM, OF COURSE IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO, THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN WE GO IN, WHEN WE FIRST WENT IN, WE WENT IN WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM WITH THE INSTALL. MAYBE NOT DO THE WHOLE THING, BUT THE THREE THAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP, THAT THAT WILL FINISH, UM, THEY SAID THEY'D DO THE INSTALL, THEY HAVE THEIR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, SO WITHIN A BIG THING TO THEM. SO ANYWAY, ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON THAT? ? NO PANEL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR OUR GUESTS? YOU HAD A WONDERFUL SPEAKER FROM LOWELL OBSERVATORY, I THINK, DIDN'T YOU? AS FAR, YEAH, WE, YEP. AND, UH, I WISH EVERYONE COULD LISTEN TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT SURE HELPS EXPLAIN GOOD LIGHTING. NIGHTTIME. YEAH. YEAH. UM, DARK SKY LIGHTING HAS GONE THROUGH, UM, EVEN SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT'S GONE THROUGH, UH, A BIT OF A CHANGE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION. UM, AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF MANUFACTURING IS TRYING TO KEEP UP. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MANUFACTURERS FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND I, I'M NOT EVEN MANAGING THE PROJECT AND YET I'M, I'M INVOLVED, BUT I, UM, WHAT I WOULD GET IS THESE STORIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TURTLE LIGHTING AND LIZARD LIGHTING AND, AND YOU KNOW, BLUE LIGHT. AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED IN A WAY, BUT IN, IN THE SAME WAY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, TURTLES AND LIZARDS AND EVEN PEOPLE SHOULD NOT REALLY BE LOOKING AT BLUE LIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHY AMBER LIGHT IS THE ONE THAT WE WANT EVERYWHERE. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, MANUFACTURERS THAT HAVE NOT STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE MM-HMM. . AND, AND THE ONES THAT HAVE, THERE'S JUST A FEW OF THEM OUT THERE AND THEY'RE KIND OF THE FRONT RUNNERS. AND SO, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT L E D LIGHTS THEN HAVING YEAH, THE AMBER LIGHT, THE, WHAT THEY CALL AMBER TURTLE LIGHTING, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, IN THE BUSINESS, OH, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TURTLE LIGHTS WHEN I START TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE KIND OF LIGHTING THAT WE NEED. AND SO, UH, AND IN FACT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY USE FOR IN HAWAII. AND [01:20:02] HAWAII'S REALLY BIG ON AMBER AND, AND DARK SKY LIGHTING FOR THAT REASON, FOR THE ANIMALS THAT, AND THE TURTLES AND THAT SORT OF THING. MM-HMM. , UM, THEY GET CONFUSED. THE ANIMALS GET CONFUSED WITH BLUE LIGHT, SO IT'S REALLY DISRUPTIVE TO THEIR, THEIR WHOLE LIFE BASICALLY. SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL STOP DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING . SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG DEAL. UM, SO, BUT FOR, FOR US HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INVOLVED IN IT BECAUSE OF THE, WELL, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE DARK SKY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE THE DARK SKY. WE'VE GOT THE OBSERVATORIES, UH, NEAR US THAT APPRECIATE THAT. UM, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A SLOW PROCESS TO GET PEOPLE TO EMBRACE IT BECAUSE IT'S COST, IT'S MONEY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF. PATTY, I'M SORRY, JUST QUICKLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, SEDONA TV STATIONS KIND OF ON, ON CABLE, AND IF WE EVEN HAD LIKE ONE MINUTE ON DARK SKY KSB, UH, IT WOULD BE AMAZING JUST TO HAVE A QUICK BLURB FOR EVERYONE IN SEDONA. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. PUBLIC SERVICE OR WHATEVER. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT THAT'D BE ONE MORE HEADS UP FOR YOU AND FOR THE CITY. YEAH. I THINK WE, UH, AT KSB, WE GAVE AN AWARD, UH, LAST YEAR TO, UM, A, UH, HOA IN, IN THE VILLAGE ACTUALLY. UH, THEY CH HAD THEIR PEOPLE CHANGE OUT ALL OF THEIR FRONT LIGHTS. AND I THINK ONLY TWO OF 'EM WERE TALKING ABOUT A LOT. I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED UM HMM. CONDOS IN THAT, UH, SUBDIVISION. AND THEY, UH, CHANGED 'EM ALL OUT EXCEPT FOR TWO, TWO PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO DO, OR PATTY. DID YOU? WELL, I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, KARL, IF, UM, IF YOU GET ANY COOPERATION FROM SORT OF LOCAL ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS OR LOCAL, LIKE WHOLE DEPOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ARE THEY, UH, ARE THEY ON, ON YOUR SIDE THAT WAY? ARE THEY HELPFUL OR ARE THEY JUST KIND OF NOT THERE? NOT HOME DEPOT. I THINK IT'S TOO, THEY DON'T EVEN, I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN HAVE. THAT'S WHAT I, DARK SKY LIGHTING, THEY'RE REALLY NOT THAT INTERESTED. WE GO TO THE BIG MANUFACTURERS, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE REALLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW. AND SO, YEAH, WE DON'T NOW, AS FAR AS LOCAL ELECTRICIANS, FOR EXAMPLE, WELL WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD TO DO THAT YET BECAUSE THE ONES THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE SAID, OH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT YEAH, WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET SOME, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING BY 2028 HAVING GRANDFATHERED LIGHTING IN THE CITY OF SEDONA. WOW. JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS, MAYBE EVEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LIGHTING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED OUT. MM-HMM. UM, IT WOULD STILL HAVE THE SAME, UH, YOU CAN STILL HAVE SECURITY LIGHTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I MEAN, THOSE KIND OF PARTS OF THE DARK SKY ORDINANCES WOULD STILL REMAIN. I'M SURE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S SAFETY CONCERNS. BANK PARKING LOTS, UH, 18 PARKING LOTS, LOTS. GOOD EXAMPLE OF A GOOD DARK SKY PARKING LOT IS CVS. YES. THEY HA THEY HAVE DARK SKY YES. PARKING LOTS. NOW I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GET INTO THE CONTROVERSY, CONTROVERSY, BUT, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN WE PUT UP CERTAIN DARK SKY LIGHTS THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THE LIGHT, THE COLOR OF THE CAR. YES. THE, THE BLUE CARS LOOK RIGHT, YOU KNOW, GREEN AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN ISSUE THAT IS. MM-HMM. , I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE OVERBLOWN FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AREA. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM FOR PARKING LOTS. RIGHT. BUT IT'S DOABLE. IT'S DOABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO CHANGE OUT PARKING LOTS SO YOU CAN SEE EVERY, EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY, IT'S, IT'S NOT DARK SKY ISN'T NO LIGHTS, IT'S NO, I KNOW. I KNOW. IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S JUST LIGHTING THAT, UM, IS NOT SUPER BRIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES DOWN INSTEAD OF YEAH. IT GOES DOWN INSTEAD UP. YEAH. EXACTLY. DANIEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MORE TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE WITH THE, THE, UH, SIZE OF THE OPPORTUNITY [01:25:01] THAT'S GONNA BE MANDATED FOR LIGHTING COMPANIES, THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF YOU ESTABLISHING SOME KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP NOW WE'RE WITH ONE OR TWO OF THOSE COMPANIES SO THEY CAN GET IN ON THE, UM, MANDATED, UH, VOLUME WHEN IT DOES HIT. OH YEAH. WE, WE DO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING AND WE GET DISCOUNTS AND WE DO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THREE THREE, UM OKAY. VENDORS, UH, IN THE UNITED STATES AND YEAH, I THINK THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND AND IT'S NOT JUST SEDONA MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, UM, BUT I HAVE TO SAY WE ARE KIND OF THE FRONT RUNNERS MM-HMM. IN A LOT OF WAYS. GOOD. UM, HAWAII IS AHEAD OF US MM-HMM. IN THAT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ON THE FLORIDA SIDE, UM, BUT FOR THE MAIN PART OF THE UNITED STATES, SEDONA IS RIGHT IN THERE AS BEING, YOU KNOW, A FRONT RUNNER. YEAH. A LEADER IN THAT AREA. YEAH. I WOULD SAY LEADER. YEAH. . YOU GUYS, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET THIS OFF, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. SO CARLA, I APPRECIATE PATTY, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. BYE-BYE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DIDN'T KNOW THE, THE CODE WAS GOING TO CHANGE. DENY THAT'S GONNA IMPACT THEIR WHOLE EFFORT. OH MA'AM. WHEN IT BECOMES REQUIRED, THEY MIGHT MM-HMM. STEER TO THE FOLKS THAT NEED FINANCIAL HEALTH, THEN YES. YES. I, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WON'T BE SOME EXPECTATION THAT LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. MM-HMM. THAT GRANDFATHERING HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS, SO MM-HMM. AND THERE'LL BE, NEED MORE EDUCATION ON WHAT IT IS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, MY IMPRESSION WAS IT JUST NEEDED TO POINT DOWN PERIOD. I NEVER HEARD TURTLE LIGHTS BEFORE. NO, NO. SO IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT AND THE COLOR OF LIGHT SHAPED THERE WAS COLOR . WE GOT A BIG SHELL ON THEM. YEAH. HI ELISE. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING GREAT. HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. LOVE YOUR HAIR, HUH? THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. VERY, VERY. IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO CUT IT ALL OFF, BUT I'M KIND GLAD I DID. IT LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. WE GET TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS FIRST. AND, UM, BARRING ARE, UH, NOT RUNNING OVER YOUR 10 MINUTES, YOU GET TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. DANIEL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ELISE? I JUST HAVE AN ADMIRATION SAINT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT LAST YEAR WHAT YOU PROPOSED TO DO LAST YEAR WAS LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE EVER GONNA BE. I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT. DO I JUST THOUGHT I DO. THIS IS THE MOST AMBITIOUS SOUNDING, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THEATER AND THERE WAS AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND AT THIS SCHOOL AND THIS SCHOOL AND THIS SCHOOL IN LAAN. AND I JUST THOUGHT, HOW ARE YOU EVER GONNA DO? AND YOU DID IT, DIDN'T YOU? WE DID IT. WE DID IT. YEAH. THAT WAS TERRIFIC. YEAH. WE DID IT. YEAH. I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. MM-HMM. THAT, AND TO SEE THE PARENTS FINALLY ENGAGED, IT'S BEEN ROUGH FOR FIVE YEARS, TRYING TO GET THE PARENTS ENGAGED AND I KEPT GOING, WHERE ARE MY PARENTS? WHERE ARE MY PARENTS? WHY AREN'T THEY, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO HIT THE RIGHT COMBINATION. AND LAST YEAR WE FINALLY HIT THAT COMBINATION AND I WAS SO, I WAS SO PLEASED AND HAPPY THAT ALL THE KIDS FROM ALL THE SCHOOLS GOT TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE, UH, SHOW. AND THAT TO ME WAS MIRACULOUS. THAT WAS REALLY WHAT I HAD SET OUT TO DO, WAS TO GET THEM ALL TOGETHER. AND THERE WERE FRIENDSHIPS FORMED AND, YOU KNOW, PARENTAL THINGS DONE. AND IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS JUST AWESOME FOR ME. SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOUR FREE TIME, ? YEAH, I KNOW MY HUSBAND. IT'S A GOOD THING MY HUSBAND SUPPORTS ME SO WELL, AND, UH, KUDOS TO HIM CUZ HE WAS OUT HELPING ME PAINT SETS AND, YOU KNOW, BUILD SETS AND, UM, CLEANING UP AFTER EACH REHEARSAL, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING A REAL SUPPORT AND HE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT ALL AS WELL. SO IT'S NICE. WHAT WAS THAT COMBINATION, THAT SWEET SPOT? NOW CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT AND ARE YOU GONNA CONTINUE THAT MODEL? I AM GONNA CONTINUE THAT MODEL. THE SWEET SPOT WAS COMBINING AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING, UM, WITH DOING A FULL SHOW BECAUSE THE KIDS, THE KIDS NEED EDUCATION. UM, EVEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I DID THE SHOW, [01:30:01] YOU ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ON A STAGE BEFORE. RIGHT. ALL THESE KIDS HAVE NEVER BEEN EXPOSED. NO. AND I HAD HALF OF THEM FROM WEST SEDONA SCHOOL WHO HAD NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANYTHING, ANY AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. YOU KNOW, PARENTS, SOME OF THE PARENTS WERE NOT EVEN ENGLISH SPEAKING, I MEAN MM-HMM. , IT WAS LIKE THIS WAS NEW FOR THEM. MM-HMM. AND, UM, TWO, UH, THREE LITTLE GIRLS IN PARTICULAR, UM, THEIR MOMS CAME UP TO ME AFTERWARD AND SAID, OH MY GOD, MY DAUGHTER, MY, MY DAUGHTER FOUND HER VOICE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO EXCITED CUZ NOW SHE'S FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING THAT SHE CAN DIG INTO AND LOVED. AND THEY WERE LIKE THIS WHEN THEY STARTED, AND THEN PRETTY SOON IT WAS LIKE, I'M HERE AND YOU COULD SEE IT. AND SO THAT COMBINATION OF PROVIDING EDUCATION AND DOING A FULL-BLOWN SHOW SO THEY HAD AN AUDIENCE TO GIVE THEM FEEDBACK WAS THE KEY. AND ALSO IT'S A TEAM SPORT IN A WAY THAT ISN'T ATHLETICS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A GROUP, UM, COOPERATIVE GROUP EXPERIENCE BESIDES VERY MUCH SO. VERY MUCH SO. WHEN YOU SAY EDUCA, I'M SORRY, ELISE, I'M MAKING SOME NOTES SO I CAN MM-HMM. , UH, CREATE THE FEEDBACK. UM, WHEN YOU SAY EDUCATION, IS IT THE, THE TEACHING OF THE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY EDUCATION? UM, LIKE, UM, ARTS CLASSES, LIKE ACTING VOCALS, DANCE, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU PROVIDE? YEAH. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . YEAH. OKAY. SO ALL OF THAT. SO THE CLASSROOM DEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE, THE SKILL, RIGHT. AND THEN THE, AND THE SHOW. AND THE SHOW AND THE SHOW IS EDUCATIONAL IN AND OF ITSELF BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY LEARN AS THEY GO. AND YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE NEWBIES IN THE SHOW AND THE, AND THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE SHOW. UM, BUT LIKE THE, SOME OF THE KIDS I HAD IN THE SHOW LAST YEAR, THEY HAD NEVER BEEN IN A PERFORMANCE. AND SO WHEN THEY GOT UP THERE, I HAD ONE WHO WAS A ADHD BIG TIME. MM-HMM. , AND HE WAS THE HARD ONE, OF COURSE, TO CONTROL DURING THE REHEARSALS AND EVERYTHING. AND HE HAD TROUBLE LEARNING HIS LINES AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, AND THEN HE GOT UP ON HIS FIRST SHOW AND HE, HIS FIRST PERFORMANCE AND HE STUMBLED RIGHT. A LOT MM-HMM. . AND THEN HE KIND OF WENT BACK TO HIS SCRIPT AND REFRESHED AND, YOU KNOW, REGROUPED. AND THEN AFTERWARDS HE GOES, I GET IT. I FINALLY GET IT. , THIS IS REALLY FUN, . AND HE SAID, NOW HE SAID, REHEARSALS WERE BORING, MISS ELISE, BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TO DO THAT . AND HE CLICKED AND HE WAS, HE, HE WAS ONE OF MY BEST ACTORS. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, AND I CAN SAY FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THIS IS WHAT I, WHAT I FOUND IN MY OWN LIFE AS A YOUNG GIRL THAT HELPED ME FIND MY VOICE AND MY PLACE AND ALLOW ME TO USE MY GIFTS. AND THEY WERE, I FORTUNATE, WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE A MENTOR WHO, UM, PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE GUIDANCE SO THAT I COULD CONTINUE ON AND CONTINUE TO LEARN. SO SHE'S PASSED ON, SO I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THANK HER FOR THAT. BUT, UM, SURE. AGAIN, BUT I, YEAH, I DO, I DO. YEAH. IN PRAYER FOR SURE. ANYBODY ELSE? I'VE GOT A NOTE TO MYSELF THAT IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE IMPACT YOU HAVE ON AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. COULD YOU KIND OF SUM THAT UP IN THE ELEVATOR SPEECH? SURE. YEAH. THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH FOR AFTER SCHOOL HERE IN SEDONA. AND I KNEW THAT WHEN I CAME HERE IN 2017. AND, UM, SO I SET OUT TO PROVIDE ARTS ACTIVITIES. UM, AND IT'S TAKEN US A NUMBER OF YEARS TO GET ALL SCHOOLS INVOLVED, BUT THE PRIMARY FOCUS, UM, THIS LAST YEAR, I DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING THAT I NEEDED TO REALLY HELP THE WILDCAT PROGRAM AT WEST SEDONA. AND THEY NEED LOTS OF HELP. UM, THAT PROGRAM I COMMEND DENNY DEER IN FOR GIVES, YOU KNOW, IT, IT REALLY DOES GIVE THESE, UM, KIDS AN AFTERSCHOOL OP OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE AT LEAST IN A SAFE SPACE. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S PROBABLY MORE BABYSITTING THAN IT IS ANYTHING ELSE. MM-HMM. . AND HE DIDN'T INTEND FOR IT TO BE THAT. BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN BRING IN SOMETHING THAT CAN EDUCATE, YOU KNOW, 60 STUDENTS AT ONCE, ALL DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS. FORTUNATELY WITH THEATER, I HAVE THAT BACKGROUND AND YOU DO THAT, IT'S A NATURAL, YOU KNOW, FLOW. SO BY OFFERING [01:35:01] THE SCHOOLS THESE SAME PROGRAMS, JUST IN A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CURVED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, DEPENDENT ON THE SCHOOL AND THEIR NEEDS, YOU KNOW, WE STILL PROVIDE MARTIAL ARTS AND EVERY SCHOOL FOR AFTER SCHOOL. WE STILL PROVIDE VOCALS IN EVERY SCHOOL FOR AFTER SCHOOL. UM, DANCE, YOU KNOW, I HAD, UH, THE KIDS AT WEST SEDONA WERE OUT LINE DANCING OUT ON THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PATIO AREA. RIGHT. AND YOUR PERCENTAGE PARTICIPATION OF THE KIDS IN THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM IS SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? SIGNIFICANT. YEAH. WELL, WITH THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM AT WALCOT CAT PROGRAM, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THERE. MM-HMM. AND THEY'RE, THEY WANT SOMETHING TO DO. MM-HMM. , THEY REALLY DO WANT AN ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT'S FUN FOR THEM. THEY HAVE A BLAST. AND THEN AT SEDONA CHARTER WHERE WE BEGAN, UM, THEY, THESE ARE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE PROGRAM FOR YEARS MM-HMM. AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THEY TRY A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. SO I TRY AND DO SOME NEW THINGS THIS YEAR. I'M GONNA BRING IN CHESS. I'M GONNA BRING IN PAINTING, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST, UM, SO THAT I CAN GET SOME DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ANGLES, UM, ON, ON THE ARTS. THANKS. MM-HMM. , ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US, YOU GUYS? TWO MINUTES. TWO MINUTES? WELL, AGAIN, I THINK THE THING LAST YEAR WE DUG INTO OUR OWN POCKETS TO BRING, TO BRING THE, TO BRING THIS FORWARD. AND, AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A RISKY ENDEAVOR. WE'VE PULLED IT OFF WITH, YOU KNOW, STYLE AND CLASS AND I'M PROUD ABOUT THAT. BUT, UM, THIS YEAR TO REALLY GIVE THE SCHOOLS THE PROGRAMS AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND THEATER THAT THEY NEED, WE REALLY NEED TO PROVIDE WEST SEDONA WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT FREE PROGRAMMING. AND THE ONLY WAY I CAN DO THAT IS THROUGH THIS GRANT. AND SO I'VE ALLOTTED IN THE GRANT REQUEST THREE, I THINK IT WAS 318 HOURS FOR THE, FOR THE, UM, DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OF PROGRAMMING. THAT MEANS LIKE TWO CLASSES PER WEEK FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR. I CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT BUDGETS CUZ I GOTTA HAVE, I GOTTA PAY MY TEACHERS. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE ME AS MUCH AS YOU CAN THIS YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONNA GO. IT'S GONNA REALLY FOCUS ON HELPING SEDONA. THANKS. AND, AND TWO FULL SHOWS THIS YEAR WE, WE UP TWO SHOWS THIS YEAR, , SO WE'RE UPPING OUR AUNTIE, WE'RE TAKING ANOTHER RISK. IS ELISE DID, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONTACT THE MAYOR'S ABOUT OH YEAH. OH, ABSOLUTELY. WITH ALL THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. UM, ONE OF THEM ATTENDED THE PRODUCTION. OKAY. UM, I, UH, I ASKED THEM, I, I TOLD THEM, PLEASE COME ON US, ENJOY THE SHOW AND, AND GIVE FEEDBACK. UNFORTUNATELY, UM, I ONLY HAD ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT COULD COME. UM, MAY I ASK WHO THAT IS? THAT WAS ERIC. UH, WHO YOU'RE TALKING YEAH. IT STARTS WITH THE NET FOLTZ. FOLTZ. FOLTZ. YEAH. ERIC FOLTZ CAME AND COURSE HIS WIFE IS THE ADMINISTRATOR. IT'S THE DONOR CHARTER. RIGHT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF A NATURAL FIT AND THEY WERE VERY STRONG SUPPORTERS. AMY'S A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER. SUPPORT PEOPLE SHOULD BE THERE TOO. YEAH. CUZ BASIL AND MIMI STARTED THAT WHOLE WILDCAT PROGRAM. THEY FUNDED IT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE STILL FUNDING, BUT, UM, IF THEY KNEW WHAT YOU, IF THEY KNEW WHAT YOU DID, PERHAPS. WELL, HE TOOK THE WORD BACK. HE DID. HE DID. YEAH. UM, AND I THINK THIS YEAR I'LL GET MORE MM-HMM. , I'LL GET MORE IN ATTENDANCE. OKAY. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, THEY WERE, HE TOOK IT BACK AND THEY WERE VERY AWARE. OKAY. AND I INVITED, UM, OF COURSE DENNY, UH, ALL THE PRINCIPALS. MM-HMM. , UM, ELIZABETH FROM SEDONA WAS GONNA COME, BUT HER HUSBAND GOT, HAD TO HAVE SURGERY, EMERGENCY SURGERY, SO SHE HAD TO BOW OUT. BUT THE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE, UM, I'D LIKE TO GET MORE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UM, ADMINISTRATORS MM-HMM. PARTICIPATING SO THEY CAN SEE THE RESULTS. UM, OH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I DID THIS LAST YEAR WAS AN AWARDS PROGRAM WHERE I GOT EVERY KID THAT PARTICIPATED, GOT A, A, UM, STATUE, YOU KNOW, A, AN AWARD. RIGHT. AND I AWARDED JUST LIKE THE OSCARS AND IT WAS JUST, UM, AT THE TIME OF THE OSCARS. SO IT WAS , YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY PERSONAL. PERSONAL FOR EVERYBODY. AND I HAD BEST ACTOR, BEST ACTRESS, BEST SUPPORTING ALL OF THAT. MOST IMPROVED, YOU KNOW. [01:40:01] AND THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY FLOORED. ONE LITTLE BOY SAID, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW? AND SO YOU SAID, DOESN'T THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE AN ART SHARE? DOES THEY DO AN ART RECOGNITION THING IN FRONT OF BEFORE ONE OF THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS? ONCE THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF EVERY MONTH, UHHUH , OUR ARTS AND CULTURE COORDINATOR, NANCY HANZI CONTACTS LOCAL ARTISTS AND THEY CAN BE MUSICIANS, THEY CAN BE ARTISTS. UM, AND I WILL MENTION TO NANCY TO REACH OUT TO YOU CUZ SHE'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING. AND YOU GET 10 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE MONTH TO PRESENT YOUR KIND OF YOUR ARTS PROGRAM. AND SHE'S DONE HISTORIC LOOK BACKS ON WOMEN ARTISTS AND SEDONA, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE YOU GO. I'M SURE SHOULD BE. YOU WANNA GET IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL? OH, THERE WE GO. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. AND THE KIDS WOULD IT . THAT'S GREAT. THE KIDS WOULD LOVE IT. YOU KNOW. THANKS SO MUCH. SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT THIS LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY. THANKS GUYS. HAVE A GREAT DAY. YEAH, I'LL BE IN TOUCH. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE MY INFORMATION? I HAVE ALL YOUR INFORMATION COORDINATING THIS PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS. SO, UH, AND OH, YOU'RE TERESA. OKAY. NICE TO MEET YOU FACE TO FACE. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING. I THINK, IS THIS MY FOURTH YEAR DOING THIS VIDEO? I'M NOT SURE. I HAVEN'T BEEN, HAVEN'T TRACK. I LOST TRACK. ANYWAY, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THAT I EVER MET THEM AND, AND THEY HAD A, OH, IT WAS AWFUL. A STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS KIND OF APPLICATION. I MEAN, IT WASN'T CONCRETE SEQUENTIAL AT ALL. NO. AND SO IT WAS JUST LIKE, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST CONFUSING. MM-HMM. . AND THIS TIME IT WAS WAY DIFFERENT, WASN'T IT? I ACTUALLY CALLED HER AND SAID, ELISE, YOU GOT IT. ABSOLUTELY. DID YOU REALLY? YEAH. NO KIDDING. YEAH. I THOUGHT SO TOO. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. I SAID THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. SO SHE'S MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . WHAT IS THAT STACK OF PAPER OVER THERE? THIS IS, THESE ARE THE HARD COPIES OF ALL THE GRANTS. SO IF YOU NEED TO LOOK THROUGH THEM. OH, THAT'S THE 29. YEAH, THESE ARE THE 29. SO IF YOU NEED 'EM OVER HERE. NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST, JUST CURIOUS. CURIOUS. GOT IT. WE MIGHT SAVE PAPER NEXT TIME THEN. WE DON'T NEED THEM ANYWAY. DON'T NEED THE DOSE. I ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE A HARD COPY. THOSE, I HAVE TO LOOK SOMETHING UP REALLY QUICK. ACTUALLY, THESE COME IN MORE HANDY TOMORROW. YES. YEAH, THEY DO. WE HAVE TO GO NOW. WHAT WAS THAT? RIGHT? WHAT DID THEY SAY ABOUT THAT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? OKAY, LET'S SEE. 45. WE HAVE CANCER SUPPORT. YEAH. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT, SO YOU GUYS TAKE OVER, IS SHE HERE? YEP. GOOD. I KNOW WHAT THESE GUYS DO BASED ON MY HOSPITAL. GOOD MORNING. HI. MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? IS THIS ACTUALLY HOT SEAT? INTRODUCE YOURSELF. THAT WAS GREAT. HI, I'M A ER, I AM CHIEF MISSION OFFICER AT CANCER SUPPORT COMMUNITY ARIZONA UHHUH . I AM CINDY MAY, AND I AM A COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR CANCER SUPPORT COMMUNITY IN NORTHERN ARIZONA. GOOD. WELL, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES WITH YOU, SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT TO THE PANEL IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. NOPE. SO YOU GUYS TELL US HOW IT WENT LAST YEAR. I KNOW IT WAS YOUR FIRST YEAR PROVIDING THIS SERVICE FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE. I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE LIKE SUBCONTRACTORS, UM, OR AN ANCILLARY SERVICE THAT THEY BROUGHT IN TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE THAT THEY USED TO DO FOR THEMSELVES. BUT NOW YOU'RE DOING IT. AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, I THINK IN YOUR REQUEST THAT YOU WEREN'T QUITE ABLE TO DO AS MUCH AS YOU WANTED TO DOWN HERE BECAUSE THERE JUST, THERE WAS THE FUNDING WASN'T AVAILABLE MM-HMM. . SO TELL US WHAT, WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED, WHAT YOUR SUCCESSES WERE AND SOME OF THE OUTCOMES, IF YOU WOULD SURE. FOR PATIENTS HERE. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT STARTED WITH THE WIG SALON? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. YES. NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE WAS DOING THE WIG SALON AND, UM, THEY STOPPED DOING THAT AND, AND THEN SAID, WOULD YOU DO IT? AND HELPED US GET OUR FIRST WIG. SO THAT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS SUCCESS. AND WE ARE THE ONLY ONES IN NORTHERN ARIZONA PROVIDING FREE WEEKS TO ANY CANCER PATIENT. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER, UM, WHAT TYPE OF CANCER, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY JUSTIFICATION. ANYBODY'S WELCOME TO [01:45:01] COME. AND THAT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM SEDONA TOO, IF THEY COME TO ONCOLOGY VISITS UP, UH, IN, IN FLAGS THAT THEY COME AND VISIT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO IN THIS PROPOSAL. UM, WE HAVE INCLUDED, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT OBVIOUSLY, TO, TO MAIL A WIG BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TRY IT ON. SO, UH, IT, IT WOULD BE FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING UP TO FLAGSTAFF FROM SEDONA FOR ANY OTHER, IF THEY GO SHOPPING OR WHATEVER REASON, AND THEY CAN STOP IN. AND, UH, OUR, OUR OPENING HOURS ARE SO THAT ANYTIME ANYBODY WALKS IN, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP THEM WITH THAT. SO THAT'S, UH, THAT, AND, AND I CAN SPEAK TO, UM, WHEN I, I MYSELF WAS IMPACTED BY CANCER AND WHEN I LOST MY HAIR, I WENT TO, UM, NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE AT THE TIME, AND THEY DID HAVE THE WIG SALON WHERE YOU COULD WALK IN AND YOU COULD LOOK AT THEM, BUT, UM, IT DIDN'T HAVE A REAL ONE-ON-ONE KIND OF COMPONENT. SO WHEN THEY GAVE US THE PROGRAM, UM, CANCER SUPPORT COMMUNITY, NOW YOU WALK INTO THE FACILITY AND YOU ARE ABLE TO MEET ONE-ON-ONE WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN KIND OF COACH YOU THROUGH THAT MM-HMM. AND REALLY HELP YOU TO PICK OUT A, A WIG THAT REALLY MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD. AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS JUST MAKING ME FEEL AS THOUGH I WAS NORMAL, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. . SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE WITH A SCARF ON. AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WOULD LOOK AT ME AS THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, WOULD OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT I WAS DEALING WITH A CANCER DIAGNOSIS. BUT WHEN I PUT MY WIG ON, I, AND HONESTLY, I HAD THREE DIFFERENT WIGS. I WENT WITH A TINA TURNER LOOK, I HAD A LITTLE BOB LOOK AND I HAD A LONG HAIR LOOK. BUT THE MENTAL, UM, THERE WAS JUST AN IMMEDIATE TRANSITION IN MY MIND. AS SOON AS I PUT THAT WIG ON, I COULD WALK OUT WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENCE AND I COULD FEEL A BIT NORMAL. SO WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO OUR PROGRAM AND THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THAT ONE-ON-ONE SUPPORT AND WALK OUT WITH THAT LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE, IT IS, IT TRULY IS LIFE-CHANGING. AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN FLAGSTAFF AND WE REALLY WANNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT HERE MORE. SO IN SEDONA, WE GAVE OUT 12 WIGS LAST YEAR. OKAY. THE, UH, 12 WIGS DOWN HERE. YES. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED, OKAY, SO YOU'RE YOU, THE HUNDRED THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, ARE YOU GETTING THAT NUMBER FROM THE, UM, UH, THE DOWN HERE? THE RADIATION ONCOLOGIST OR THE, THE CHEMO, UH, THE OUTREACH, I BELIEVE, AND THIS IS RIGHT. AND THAT THE OUTREACH THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING HAS BEEN WITH ONCOLOGY AND OTHER, UM, IN NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE AS THEY'RE SERVICING THE MM-HMM. , THE INDIVIDUALS ARE COMING IN, WE'RE ABLE TO HAND OUT INFORMATION. AND SO THOSE PEOPLE THERE ARE THEN AWARE THEY WOULD GO AND, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR W AND HOW DO YOU VET THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ACTUAL RESIDENTS SCENARIO? BECAUSE WE HEARD INITIALLY WHEN YOU SPOKE THAT THEY COME KIND OF FROM ALL THEY DO. MM-HMM. . YES. AND I KNOW WE SERVE ANYBODY, UH, ANYWHERE IN THIS STATE. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA MAKE CLEAR, UH, OUR NORTHERN ARIZONA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS CINDY PAYNE. SHE'S ON A PLANE RIGHT NOW, . SO, UH, SO I WOULD, IT WOULD'VE BEEN FANTASTIC IF SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HERE. UH, SHE, SHE IS AMAZING AND RUNS THE SHOP UP THERE. SO, UH, UH, WE ARE HERE TO TRY TO REPLACE HER, WHICH IS VERY, VERY, VERY HARD. UH, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE A, UH, FOR ANYBODY WHO COMES IN, WE DO ASK THEM TO SIGN UP WITH US, UH, AND, AND REGISTER FOR NEWCOMER ORIENTATION. MM-HMM. . AND WHEN THEY SIGN UP, WE ASK FOR THEIR, UH, FOR THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, AND EMAIL AND THEN CONTACT. AND THAT'S HOW WE FIND OUT WHETHER YOU KNOW THEIR SEDONA RESIDENTS OR NOT. BUT WITHIN THIS GRANT, WE ALSO INCLUDED SOME MARKETING DOLLARS, CUZ ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WE'RE HERE. AND, UM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO THROUGH A CANCER TREATMENT OR CANCER DIAGNOSIS, IT'S VERY OVERWHELMING. THERE'S SO MUCH THAT COMES AT YOU. AND AS MUCH AS WE TRY TO PUT OUR FLYERS IN AND, AND WORK WITH THE ONCOLOGY OFFICES, IT'S JUST HARD FOR THEM TO, TO, UH, TO GET ALL THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TO TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, GET US OUT OF THE WHOLE MOUNTAIN OF INFORMATION THAT THEY GET. SO WE WANNA DO SOME MARKETING HERE. WE WANNA, UH, WORK WITH MAYBE SOME VOLUNTEERS AND, AND GET, SO THAT WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT SO THAT FRIENDS AND FAMILY ALSO KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE. WE ARE NOW PROVIDING, UM, SUPPORT GROUPS, UH, BOTH FOR, UH, UH, FOR, FOR, UH, PATIENTS, CANCER PATIENTS, BUT ALSO THAT CAREGIVERS AND FAMILY HERE IN SEDONA. UH, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE SUPPORTS FOR WHEREVER ANYBODY PROVIDES US A SPACE CURRENTLY THAT IS AT NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE. SO IT'S A SEDONA, UH, HOSPITAL AND VERDE VALLEY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE DO IT NOW. BUT AS I SAID, UH, ANYTIME WHERE ANYBODY WOULD PROVIDE US THE SPACE, WE'D LOVE TO BE THERE. CUZ WE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY AFFILIATED WITH NORTHERN ARIZONA. WE'RE, WE ARE OUR OWN FIVE ONE NONPROFIT. [01:50:01] SO IS MOST OF YOUR SUPPORT THAT KIND, YOU KNOW, HELPING DEAL WITH ALL PAPERWORK AND FORMS OR IS IT THE, THE WIG FOR THIS PROGRAM? IT IS FOR THIS PROGRAM, IT'S A MIX, UM, OF, UH, WIGS, UH, SUPPORT GROUPS, WHICH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S COUNSELING SO THAT PEOPLE ARE TOGETHER. IT'S, UH, IT'S FACILITATED BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL WHERE PEOPLE ARE TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO WANTING TO ADD EXPRESSIVE ART OR A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE EXPRESSIVE ARTS. WE WANNA WORK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OUR SUPPORT GROUPS TO SEE WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO HAVE OFFERED. WE HAVE AN ARRAY OF, UH, OFFERINGS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ANYTHING FROM EXPRESSIVE ARTS OR WE HAVE, UH, MOVEMENT CLASSES ADAPTED TO CANCER PATIENTS. UM, UH, ANYTHING THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THAT HELPS THEM WITH THE EMOTIONAL PART OF THE CANCER DIAGNOSIS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH DOES SHOW, WE, WE HAVE GONE SO FAR IN TREATING THE CANCER MEDICALLY, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE EMOTIONAL AND SOCIAL PART OF WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH CANCER THAT IS OFTEN FORGOTTEN. AND RESEARCH SHOWS THAT IF WE ARE IN DOING INTEGRATIVE CARE AND WE ALSO TAKE CARE OF YOUR EMOTIONAL AND YOUR SOCIAL NEEDS, YOUR HEALTH OUTCOMES ARE GONNA BE SO MUCH BETTER. YOU'RE MORE INCLINED TO STAY IN TREATMENT AND YOU ARE JUST, UH, YOU, YOU ARE OVERALL FEELING BETTER AND YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF SURVIVORSHIP RECOVERY. YEAH. YEAH. SURVIVOR, MYSELF, TERESA. UM, UH, DID I KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UM, I HAD HAD ASKED FOR A PROGRAM SPECIFIC BUDGET. DID THAT COME YES, WE DID SET THAT, THAT DID COME BACK. OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S ALL. IF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOUR, UH, BUDGET WAS PRIMARILY FOR STAFFING. YES. THAT IS OUR, IT'S, YES, IT'S OUR BIGGEST ASSET IS THE PEOPLE WE HAVE. IT'S PROVIDING THE PROGRAM. SO IT'S PUTTING SOMEBODY BEHIND THE DESK AT, UH, THE LAB AT NORTHERN ARIZONA? NO, THAT WOULD BE OUR STAFFING WOULD BE, UH, THE FACILITATOR. SO THE, THE SUPPORT GROUP FACILITATOR, UH, THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PROFESSIONAL WHO FACILITATES THE SUPPORT GROUP, THE FACILITATOR WHO FACILITATES THE, UM, HEALTHY LIFESTYLE PROGRAM THAT WE DO. AND THEN OUR NORTHERN, A PORTION OF OUR NORTHERN ARIZONA, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE NEWCOMER ORIENTATION SHE DOES AND THE INTAKE. AND FOR THE, HER HELPING THE PEOPLE WITH THE WIGS. YEAH, DEFINITELY. THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE BY, IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT WORK FOR US. THAT'S STAFFING WOULD BE THE HANDS ON PERSONNEL WITH THE PATIENT. CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I ALWAYS SAY, WHENEVER I HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET PEOPLE AND TELL US ABOUT, UH, TELL THEM ABOUT OUR WORK, IT IS A WIN FOR US BECAUSE HERE ARE NOW SIX PEOPLE, SEVEN PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WE DO. AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, HELP. UH, IF YOU EVER COME ACROSS ANYBODY WHO'S IMPACTED BY CANCER, UH, THAT YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THEM. AND WE LOVE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OUR PROGRAMS ARE FREE. UH, PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH CHALLENGES WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH CANCER TREATMENT FINANCIALLY THAT WE DON'T, THAT'S NOT A BURDEN THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN THEY COME TO US. THANK YOU. AND WE CAN ONLY DO THAT THANKS TO YOUR SUPPORT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE CAN TELL CINDY THAT SHE DIDN'T EXCELLENT. NOT AS GOOD AS EVERYBODY GOOD ENOUGH. SHE MUCH, I DUNNO. DON'T YOURSELF SHORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK. BYE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A BREAK? WE HAVE A BREAK FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER OUR, UM, DURING THIS BREAK ABOUT THE, UH, THE WHOLE FOOD CHALLENGE THING THAT, UM, CHRISTINE ACTUALLY TOOK BY THE, THE BULL BY THE HORN. AND I'M GLAD SHE DID BECAUSE WE COULD EASILY LET IT GET OUTTA CONTROL SO TERESA CAN SHARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS SHE HAD WITH, UM, KAREN ABOUT IT AND HOW WE CAN, UM, A HANDLE WHAT WE'RE, UM, WHAT WE WON'T GO INTO THAT WEEK BECAUSE TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE IT, BUT HANDLE THIS YEAR. BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CRAFT SOMETHING MOVING, MOVE FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THIS DOESN'T GET OUTTA DUPLICATION. MM-HMM. . YEAH. SO WE'LL WAIT FOR TO COME BACK. I THINK YOU ALL GOT THE EMAIL CHAIN RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT YOUR USE OF THE WORD DUPLICATION, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOOD, UH, CHALLENGED, CHALLENGED, LEARN HOW TO SHOP AND LEARN WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND THEY USE THAT. UM, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GETTING [01:55:01] FOOD FROM ST. ANDREW'S DINNERS AND SELLING IT ON THE STREET. THEY'RE EATING THE FOOD. SO I'M NOT SURE DUPLICATION IS THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY. WELL, THE, THE CONCERN WAS, MY CONCERN WAS THAT HEY, CAN YOU GUYS WAIT TIL PATTY GETS BACK SO WE CAN, I'M SORRY ED, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A GROUP. CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. UM, OUR DECISION MAKING IS ALL CONSENT BASED, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT HERE. ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF UH SURE. OUR CONSIDERATIONS. YOU GOT DON'T HAVE TO GO PAST MY COINS. PATTY. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, I DO WANNA, UM, OH, NOW I HAVE. THANK YOU LADIES FOR THE BEAUTIFUL SCRAP. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S ALL KAREN. I COULD JOKE, WE ONLY HIRE PEOPLE WHO DO NICE THINGS, BUT CREATIVITY, WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. BRAIN NEEDS SUGAR. EXCUSE ME. IMPRESSION RESCUE. OH, I KNOW. OUT THERE THEY SHOW UP IN THIS. YEAH. LOOK LIKE THEY'RE READY. DIRECTOR FRED KENNY IS THE, UH, PHYSICIAN, UM, ON THAT CANCER. YES. THE LICENSE. YEAH. I, I WORKED WITH HIM. HE'S GI UH, WONDERFUL. VERY RIGHT, VERY, VERY GOOD. FIRST. WHERE DOES HE PRACTICE? IS HE STILL PRACTICING? NO, UH, HE IN PHOENIX, HIS SON STILL PRACTICES THERE. MM-HMM. , PULMONOLOGY, INTENSIVE CARE. PULMONOLOGIST. WELL, NO. FRED, KENNY GI. YEAH, HE'S GI BUT HE'S, HE'S NOT STILL PRACTICING OR HE'S PRACTICING. WELL IT SAID RETIRED PHYSICIAN ON, ON THE, THEIR APPLICATION. SO HE IS NOT PRACTICING RATS BECAUSE WE NEED A GOOD GI I WAS KIND OF HOPING HE MIGHT BE HERE, BUT , HE CERTAINLY SAW ENOUGH GI CANCER. OKAY, YOU'RE BACK. ALRIGHT. ED, POSE YOUR POSE, YOUR CONCERN AGAIN. AND I WAS SAYING THAT, UM, DUPLICATION OR OVERLAPS, UH, I DON'T THINK ARE THE RIGHT WORDS TO USE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE AVAILABILITY OF, OF FOOD IN THE, IN THIS AREA BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT LEARN WHERE TO GO, WHEN TO GO, WHO'S GOT FRESH VEGETABLES, WHO DOESN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY USE THOSE THINGS ROUTINELY AND IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN CHOOSE TO EITHER GO TO THE FOOD BANK OR TO ST. JOHN OR TO WHEREVER. I MEAN THEY LEARN OR DOWN TO THE MISSION OR DOWN TO THE MISSION OR AT MANZANITA, YOU KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY USE THE, THE, UM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT ALL THE SERVICE, THE RESOURCES, ALL THE SERVICES AVAILABLE ARE NECESSARY TO KEEP THEM WELL FED. YEAH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. BUT I'M WORRIED THAT WE'RE GONNA START NOW. NOW INSTEAD OF FUNDING OUR, UM, NONPROFITS HERE IN SEDONA, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING EVERYBODY FROM THE VERDE VALLEY AND UP THE FLAGSTAFF COMING TO US. AND NOW OUR FUNDS ARE GONNA GET SO DILUTED. OUR IMPACT IS VERY MINIMAL. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A VALID CONCERN. YEAH. CAUSE THIS IS A SMALL PROGRAM, RELATIVELY SPEAKING MM-HMM. . AND WE HAVE, AS WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING AN EXPANSION, AND IF YOU READ THROUGH THE, UM, GRANT APPLICATION LAST YEAR, WE ADDED SOME NEW VERBIAGE, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS GRANT FUNDING IS USED WITHIN THE YEAR'S GRANT CYCLE MM-HMM. THAT IT'S USED FOR WHAT YOU PROPOSED. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE MORE VARIABLES AND, AND IT'S A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM AND, AND FUNDS GET TIGHT. SO WORD HAS GONE AROUND, BUT THERE ARE MORE, EVEN OUR, OUR CONVERSATION WITH STREET HEAT, UM, THEY'RE BRAND [02:00:01] NEW AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ARE COMING IN. AND SO WE WANT, I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T SHORTING THE SEDONA FOOD BANK WITH WHAT THEY NEED BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER PLACES COMING IN. I THINK YOUR POINT IS VALID AND I THINK TO STEPHANIE'S POINT AND CHRISTINE'S POINT, THIS IS A REALLY COMPLEX DISCUSSION, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SET PRECEDENCE THAT WE CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, MY DISCUSSION WAS WHERE THE SERVICE IS BEING DELIVERED AND MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, ARE WE ANCHORED IN SEDONA SO THAT WE CAN REALLY DEMONSTRATE SEDONA RESIDENTS AND YOUR ADDITION OF INFORMATION IS, IS GOOD AND, AND OUTLINED HOW COMPLEX THIS IS. IT IS COMPLEX AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE, UH, HELPED OUT AT ST. ANDREWS A FEW TIMES AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SIGN-IN SHEET, THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE COME FROM. UM, I SUSPECT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRANSPORTATION HAVE THEIR OWN CARS ARE DRIVING FROM COTTONWOOD TO HAVE DINNER ON. WAS IT WEDNESDAY NIGHT? I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW. UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S AT ST. ANDREWS, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG NEED OUT THERE. SO DON'T KNOW. THEY DEFINITELY DOES KEEP TRACK WHEN THEY DO. NOW THEY TOLD ME THEY WEREN'T, BUT THIS IS THE THING. CAUSE THE MISSION DOES THEY HAVE, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THIS APP, THIS FREE APP THAT'S LINKED FOR FOOD AND THEY MAKE EVERYBODY SIGN IN WHERE THEY'RE FROM, HAVE PROOF OF RESIDENCY. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF, IF WE ARE SERVING SEDONA RESIDENTS AND IF WE EXPAND OUR, I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL THAT HERE, UM, AND MAYBE NOT, UH, EXPAND OUR, UM, RESIDENT STATUS TO INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO, UH, SERVE HERE IN SEDONA, WORK IN SEDONA. UH, THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO COTTONWOOD TO EITHER SUPPLEMENT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING AT THE FOOD BANK OR NOT ABLE TO GO TO THE FOOD BANK DURING THE FOOD BANK HOURS, SO THEY HAVE TO GO TO COTTONWOOD IN ORDER TO EAT OR THEY MM-HMM. , THEY WORK IN SEDONA AND LIVE ELSEWHERE. BUT THEY, WE STILL CONSIDER THOSE SEDONA RESIDENTS. WHY ARE WE EXCLUDING THEM? JUST CUZ THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET THE FOOD. I DON'T KNOW. MM-HMM. , I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. AND I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND WE'RE SAYING ONE THING AND ON THE OTHER HAND WE'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS, THIS IS HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO? AND IT'S NOT THIS COMMITTEE THAT MAKES THAT DECISION. WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE THE COUNCIL THAT SETS THE PARAMETER. BUT WE ARE REALI AND THIS HAPPENS EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP LIKE THIS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITH COUNCIL SAYING, HOW IS IT THAT YOU WANT US TO HANDLE THIS AND MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THESE, THIS DEVELOPING, SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON IT. NOW WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? AND THAT'S, AND WE'RE, CUZ WE DON'T, WE NEED THOSE, THAT GUIDANCE BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT THE CITY COUNCIL GUIDANCE THAT WE SURE DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT GUIDANCE IS WHEN WE SIT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. AND THEY ASK US, WHY AREN'T YOU FUNDING THIS? OR WHY ARE YOU FUNDING THIS? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS WHEN WE GO IN FRONT OF THEM IN ORDER FOR IT, FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DO TO MAKE SENSE. BECAUSE THE LAST THING, THE THING IS MOST DIFFICULT FOR US IS WHEN WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO FUND THESE AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, THEY SAY, WELL, YOU SHOULD'VE GIVEN THIS PERSON MORE. AND THEN, SO WHERE WERE WE GONNA GET IT? WELL THEN TAKE AWAY, YOU KNOW, AND THE WHOLE THING GETS TO BE A MESS. SO WE REALLY NEED, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT GUIDELINES WITH WHAT TO WORK SO WE CAN COME WITH SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY AND SUPPORT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT. I MEAN, IT'S, VOLO SAYS THAT HALF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE FOREST AND THEIR RVS AND TENTS ARE ACTUALLY DOING WORK IN SEDONA. MM-HMM. , UM, YOU KNOW, WASHING DISHES AND WHATEVER. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, IT IT MAY NOT BE HOW YOU MAKE THAT DECISION. WELL, AND IT MAY NOT BE A QUESTION OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN EASY EQUATION BETWEEN NEED AND WHAT THE, WHAT CAN OFFER. THERE MIGHT BE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES HERE. ONE IS NEED AND ONE IS SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM. MM-HMM. . AND IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROGRAM INTACT, SEDONAS, THE CITY OF SEDONA HAS A LIMITED SCOPE ON WHAT IT CAN DO AND THE VALIDITY OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE NEED MORE [02:05:01] FOOD PANTRY SERVICE THAN ONE ORGANIZATION CAN. MM-HMM. OFFER IS, IS A REAL, A REALITY. IT'S A VALID POINT AS A DATA POINT, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO RECONCILE IT COMPLETELY WITH A SCOPE OF OPERATIONS FOR THE CITY THAT WILL HELP KEEP THE PROGRAM INTACT. AND, AND SO THAT'S, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT AND I AGREE WITH STEPHANIE THAT COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER NEED TO KNOW THAT, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE NEXT FRONTIER THAT THIS PROGRAM IS FACING. MM-HMM. , DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. SO I GET, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE TO SOLVE IT BETWEEN BY 10 10, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON, AS WE GO THROUGH AND START AND LISTEN TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO FOLLOW THE BACK OF OUR MIND THAT WE DO HAVE THIS CONSIDERATION AND BE THINKING ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UH, TO COUNSEL FOR CONSIDERATION. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF OUR MANDATE. WELL, YOU KNOW, TO SAY ONE OTHER THING ABOUT MANS ANITA OUTREACH, THEY'RE PROBABLY THE MOST EFFICIENT ORGANIZATION AROUND THE DIRECTOR IS A KEVIN ADAMS IN TERMS OF GRANT WRITING AND, AND RAISING FUNDS. THESE REMARKABLE REMARKABLY ADEP IN DOING THAT. UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT MANZANITA. YOU KNOW, CATHERINE AND I GIVE BOTH TO THE FOOD BANK AND TO MANZANO. MANZANITA DOES A, A GREAT JOB. WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED MONEY FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA IS ARGUABLE, BUT YEAH. WELL, THEY, UM, THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA FOR FOOD DISTRIBUTION. THEY'RE ASKING IT FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE SNACK BOXES FOR WEST SEDONA. MM-HMM. , WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS PRETTY CLEAR CUT. YOU KNOW, MY MEMORIES MUST BE FAULTY. I THOUGHT IT WAS NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT. I THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THIS. NO, NO. THEY'RE DOING, UH, FRESH PRODUCE TO PRODUCE FRESH PRODUCE TO HOMES. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. DELIVERING. BUT THEY'RE DELIVERING, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DELIVERING THEM TO THE HOUSES. THAT'S THE PART THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH. THAT TO ME IS DIFFERENT CUZ THEY'RE NOT SITTING THERE WAITING FOR THE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKING AWAY NO, THEY'RE GOING TO THE, AND THAT TO ME IS THE KEY. MM-HMM. . SEE, THESE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS ARE REALLY HERE. THEY'RE REALLY, WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, MAN, THEY'RE REALLY SMART AT BEING ABLE TO PIN SOMETHING DOWN THAT IS SO MM-HMM. TARGETED. YES. THAT, HOW DO YOU SAY NO, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. . SO I, I RESPECT THAT HIGHLY. IT'S, ANYWAY. ALRIGHT. SO 600 VOLUNTEERS THAT MANZANITA. YEAH. YEAH. 600. WELL, WHEN MANZANITA REALLY DON'T, WHEN MANZANITA STARTED, I WAS WORKING AT, UM, NH IN THE FOUNDATION AND ASKED, UM, NEWCOMB WHO, MIKE NEWCOMB, WHO WAS THE, UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME WHEN IT JUST STARTED GOING. AND I SAID, I SAID, WHAT'S YOUR BACKGROUND? HE SAYS, I WAS A, UM, A WAREHOUSE MANAGER FOR AMAZON . OH MY GOD. I GO, OKAY, THAT IS QUALIFICATION. I'LL TELL YOU. SO ANYWAY, OKAY. IT'S 10 AFTER YOU GUYS READY ARE HOPE THEY BROUGHT THEIR DOG . IT WAS MIKE HOLCOMB, RIGHT? MIKE HOLCOMB. YEAH. AND DONNA, I HOLCOMB. THAT'S THE ORIGINAL GUY. OKAY. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS MIGHT BE WANT JUST DRAG A COUPLE EXTRA CHAIRS HERE? A FEW CHAIRS UP HERE. HEY GUYS, BRING YOUR CANINES. I WANTED YOU TO BRING YOUR CANINE CANINES. THEY'RE, IF YOU REALLY WANT THEM IN, YOU WANT ONE IN OH, IS THAT OKAY? CAN WE, ANOTHER CHAIR? CAN WE BRING IN A SERVICE DOG? IF THEY'RE WELLBE BEHAVED I'LL. OKAY. YEAH. YOU GUYS GET STARTED. I'LL BRING IN, OH LISTEN, IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA TELL US, IT'S GONNA BE, I LEFT IVY AT HOME. OH, IVY AT HOME BECAUSE I HAVE TO RUSH. I HAVE TO RUSH AND CHANGE AND GET TO WORK. HOW MANY CARD? GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE CERTIFIED DOGS AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN TRAINING. YEAH. OH, I SEE. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME FROM THE, IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE A BRAND NEW CONCEPT. IT IS. UNTIL I SAW THAT IN THE, IN THE NEWSPAPER. YEAH. THEY WERE JUST SORT OF, WE WERE JUST CERTIFIED WITH OUR DOGS IN JANUARY. OH, OKAY. [02:10:01] SO YOU HAVE THREE NOW. ONE IN TRAINING AND WE HAVE TO RE-CERTIFY EVERY TWO YEARS. UM, BOTH OURSELVES FOR SEARCH AND RESCUE SKILLS AS A HUMAN AND THEN OURSELVES AS A HANDLER WITH OUR DOGS. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU GUYS SHARE, UM, HOW YOU USED YOUR, YOUR, UM, CANINES THUS FAR AND WHAT OUTCOMES YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED AND IF THOSE OUTCOMES, HOW THOSE OUTCOMES WOULD'VE BEEN NOT SO GOOD HAD YOU NOT HAD THE CANINES? WELL, BEING NEWLY CERTIFIED, AND AS I KNOW YOU TWO KNOW THAT, UM, WE WERE JUST CERTIFIED BOTH MYSELF WITH MY DOG IVY AND HANK WITH HIS TWO DOGS, UM, MID-JANUARY. UNFORTUNATELY, I FELL ILL FOR A FEW MONTHS. SO I ACTUALLY DID NOT ATTEND ANY OF THE POTENTIAL CANINE CALL. OH, HE'S ONLY BRINGING ONE IN. THAT'S WHY YOU HEAR CRYING FROM THE OTHER ONE . THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE TWO BUDDY SOUR AND YOU CAN PET THEM. THEY ARE VERY FRIENDLY AND THEY LOVE HUMANS AS IT SHOULD BE THE CASE. OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE VERY GOOD FOR SEARCHING FOR HUMANS. SO, STEPHANIE, TO FINISH ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, UM, WE'VE HAD THREE CANINE, UM, SUPPORT CALLS CALL OUT SINCE, UM, WHAT MARCH, I THINK. YES. AND, UM, WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE DOGS ON ONE BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO THANKFULLY WERE RESOLVED BEFORE WE EVEN GOT THERE. SO THEY WERE WHAT WAS CALLED A STAND DOWN. SO WE WERE READY TO DEPLOY, WE WERE ON OUR WAY, BUT THEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NOTIFIED US THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WERE FOUND, WHICH WAS A GREAT OUTCOME. WE LOVED THOSE OUTCOMES. UM, AND THEN WE HAD ONE THAT TIM AND I WERE ON BALDWIN AT BALDWIN BALDWIN TRAIL. WE HAD FOUR, UM, THREE LADIES, THREE LADIES OFF THE TRAIL. THREE CANADIANS. COLD LOST MY PROBLEM YET, YOU KNOW, THEY STARTED THEIR HIKE AT SUNSET AND UM, I HAD TAKEN IVY AND A LOT OF TIMES IN THE PAST THEY DID NOT. THIS AREA IN SEDONA SPECIFICALLY, UH, THIS SIDE OF INGUEZ, YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFFS REALLY IMMEDIATELY DID NOT CALL THE DOGS OUT BECAUSE THE ONLY DOGS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT VOLUNTEER FORCE ARE IN PRESCOTT. AND SO THE EFFICIENCY FOR RESPONSE TIME IS VERY LOW. SO THAT IS PART OF WHY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ASKED US TO. YEAH. SO PART OF THE HISTORY IS WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD A SEARCH DOG UNIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MINGUS AND PRESCOTT FOR MANY YEARS. MM-HMM. AND JENNIFER AND HANK HAVE BEEN TRAINING WITH THAT UNIT FOR THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS TO GET TO THIS STAGE. OKAY. AND, BUT IT'S AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS FOR THOSE DOGS TO GET HERE. MM-HMM. . SO WE NEEDED A SEARCH DOG UNIT ON THIS SIDE. AND, YOU KNOW, HANKA AND, UM, JENNIFER AND NOW NAOMI BE JOINING US. MM-HMM. , THE HANK GENERAL HAVE THREE DOGS AND A FOURTH WILL BE JOINING US. NOW WE HAVE ONE ON THIS SITE. SO WE HAVE RAPID RESPONSE, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK SEARCH DOGS WOULD BE CALLED OUT IF THERE'S A CHILD, IF THERE'S AN PERHAPS AN ELDERLY PERSON AT NIGHT AND A MULTI SURGEON. FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S ACTUALLY A YEAR NOW SINCE, UH, LONA MILLER HAS MI WENT MISSING OUT AT LOY. MM-HMM. AND JENNIFER AND HANK HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES WITH THEIR SEARCH DOGS LOOKING FOR, UH, LONA. THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, WE USE SEARCH DOGS WHEN THERE'S MULTI-DAY SEARCHES. LET ME START AGAIN. WHEN WE, MOST OF OUR SEARCHES, WE HAVE A CELL PING GPS COORDINATE OF THE SUBJECTS OF THE LOST PEOPLE. AND THOSE ARE THE EASIEST ONES FOR US BECAUSE OKAY. WE KNOW THE LOCATION AND WE CAN HIKE TO THAT LOCATION. THE TOUGHEST ONES ARE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SO COORDINATES, YOU KNOW, JOHN'S MISSING AND WE THINK HE WENT TO THIS TRAIL AND THEN WE FIND THEIR CAR AT THAT TRAIL HEAD. AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DRONES TO SEARCH. UM, VERY USEFUL, PARTICULARLY AT NIGHT. UM, AND THEN WE GO INTO USING CHURCH DOGS. IT'S WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT. THE SEARCH DOGS HELP CLEAR LARGE AREAS. THEY CAN CLEAR AREAS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND AS MANY HIKERS TO IT. SO CLEARING AN AREA, YOU KNOW, FINDING AN AREA WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT IS AT ACTUALLY DIS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS FOCUS IN ON AREAS WHERE THEY MIGHT BE MM-HMM. . SO, SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A NEW SEARCH DOG UNIT AND WE'VE GROWN ENOUGH WITH VISA. WE'VE ADDED MOUNTAIN BIKES, WE'VE ADDED DRONES, AND WE'VE ADDED A ROPE TECHNICAL UNIT AND CANINE, AS WE GROW WITH THOSE UNITS, WE FIND THE EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING NEEDS ARE ASTRONOM . AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED HELP, YOU KNOW, TO POINT OUR CANINE UNIT AND WHERE THOSE, UM, EXPENSES HAVE FALLEN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CANINE UNIT. AND I KNOW ORIGINALLY WHEN THE ROPES UNIT AND DRONE WERE STARTING ARE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS. SO FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF THAT I'VE BEEN TRAINING AND SINCE I'VE, UM, GOT MY DOG AND I KNOW HANK, WE'VE BEEN PAYING OUT OF POCKET AS WE CAN FOR TRAINING AND CERTIFICATIONS, UM, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF POTENTIAL REALLY GOOD MEMBERS WITH THEIR [02:15:01] DOGS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT SAME COMMITMENT AND LONG TERM FOR US EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET SO WE CAN CONTINUE VOLUNTEERING AND HELPING TO RESCUE VISITORS AND CITIZENS. I MEAN, WE'LL DO, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN AS INDIVIDUALS, BUT IF WE COULD, UM, IF THE UNIT CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT TO KEEP OUR DOGS CURRENT AND ACTIVE, THEY, THEY'RE TRAINING AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, MAYBE TWICE A WEEK. MM-HMM. . AND WE FOUND THAT IT'S BEST TO HAVE AN ONSITE TRAINER TO HELP US. CUZ THEN WE TRAIN WITH OTHER DOGS. WE HAVE SUBJECTS IN THE FIELD FOR THE DOGS AND, AND A HUGE PART OF OUR MONTHLY TRAINING COSTS IS THE COMBINATION OF TRAINING THE DOGS WEEKLY AND, AND THE CANING HANDLERS. AND THAT'S COSTING SEVERAL HUNDRED PER MONTH JUST TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL TRAINER FOR US. MM-HMM. , WHAT IS YOUR ANTICIPATED RETENTION OF YOUR MEMBERS? LIKE, UH, MY, UH, A QUESTION MAY COME UP. OKAY. WE, IF WE HELP WITH THE ASSIST WITH THE TRAINING, ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO TAKE THAT KNOWLEDGE ELSEWHERE? WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY'D GO ELSEWHERE. I MEAN, SOME, SOME, OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE A VERY HARD TURNOVER IN V. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. AND WE ALSO, FOR THE CANINE UNIT, WE HAVE, WE MENTIONED ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL, UM, HANDLER WHO'S TRAINING WITH US NOW AND SHE'S GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BECOME A MEMBER, UM, OF VISA AND SHE'S DOING GREAT. SO WE HAVE WHAT ABOUT A DOZEN PEOPLE MM-HMM. IN THE LAST PROBABLY SIX MONTHS OR SO MM-HMM. THAT BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY A VOLUNTEER, A TRUE, UM, MEMBER OF VERDE SEARCH AND RESCUE. IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN CANINE, WE HAVE THEM OUT WITH US WHEN WE'RE TRAINING SO THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND THE HEAT, THE COLD, THE COMMITMENT, THE ELEMENTS, THE COMMITMENT OF TIME, THE WORK, THE HIKING, EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THEM AND THEIR DOG. MM-HMM. . AND I WILL SAY OUT OF THOSE ABOUT 12 INDIVIDUALS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, ONE IS VERY SOLID AND WE KNOW IT'S GONNA STICK WITH US. SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THE FRONT END TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK, OH, I SEE THOSE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S TORNADOES OR HURRICANES, OH, I WANT A SEARCH DOG. BUT IN REALITY, ONCE THEY START TRAINING, THEY REALIZE THE COMMITMENT IS MUCH MORE THAN THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE OR ABLE TO GIVE. IT'S EIGHT HOURS A WEEK PER DOG PER DISCIPLINE. MM-HMM. , JENNIFER'S DOG IVY HAS TWO DISCIPLINES. SHE'S A CADAVER DOG AND A LIVE AREA SEARCH DOG. SO THAT'S 16 HOURS A WEEK. THAT'S THE STATE OF ARIZONA'S REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO TRAIN FOR. SO THAT GENERALLY WEEDS PEOPLE OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, BOTH OF MY DOGS. SO NOW I HAVE TWO DOGS. BOTH OF THEM ARE GETTING TWO, ONE OF THEM ALREADY HAS TWO DISCIPLINES AND THEY'RE CERTIFIED AND SHE'S GETTING HER SECOND, UM, DISCIPLINE. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF TIME. I'M LOCAL HERE. THEY'RE JUST HERE IN, IN WEST SEDONA, YOU KNOW, AND THE DOGS ARE YOUNG. THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED BEFORE THEY'RE THREE YEARS OF AGE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE A SERVICE LIFE UNTIL THEY'RE PROBABLY NINE-ISH MM-HMM. YEARS OLD. SO WE WANT 'EM IN SERVICE. OKAY. THAT'S, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE MORE, BUT I WANT, WELL, I HAVE A VERY BASIC ONE CUZ I'VE ONLY SEEN, YOU KNOW, TV. YOU GET A, THE BOSS PERSON'S SHIRT AND THEY SMELL IT AND GO, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, HOW, HOW DOES THIS WORK? SO THESE, BOTH OF OUR DOGS ARE TRAINED IN LIVE AREA SCENT NONSPECIFIC. SO THEY WILL GO FIND ANY HUMAN OUT IN THE WILDERNESS. NAOMI, THE PERSON THAT'S, THAT'S JOINING NOW, HER DOG IS SENT SPECIFIC LIVE AREA, SO SHE WILL FIND ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU GIVE THEM THE SENT ARTICLE FOR. BUT THESE, UH, THREE DOGS, UH, DON'T NEED A SENT ARTICLE. THEY'LL FIND ANYBODY. SO ON THE TRAILS OUT IN THE AREA OUT HERE, IF WE RELEASE OUR DOGS, UM, THEY WORK OFF LEAD OUR AREA DOGS, THEY CAN ALSO WORK ON LEAD IN SMALLER AREAS OR NEAR ROADS. UM, THEY WILL FIND PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE PERSON WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IT REALLY HELPS US TO, WE'VE CONNECTED WITH THEM. NOW WE'VE INFORMED ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL OUT IN THAT AREA THAT SOMEBODY'S MISSING, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, KEEP YOUR EYES OUT AND THEN WE JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. YOU FIND THAT INDIVIDUAL MOVE ON THE NEXT MM-HMM. . ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S RIGHT. WE DO JUST FIND SOMEBODY AND BARK, SORRY, FROM HERE, EACH DOG HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, WHAT THEY CALL INDICATION ONCE THEY FIND, FIND THE INDIVIDUAL MM-HMM. , SO LIKE IVY, UM, SITS AND SHE'S ACTUALLY HAVE STARTED ADDING A BARK TO THAT. BUT WE ALL RUN GP PART OF GRANT FUNDING REQUEST WITH GPS COLLAR EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. EXACTLY. AND SO, UM, WE HAVE A PROGRAM TO WHERE IF THE ANIMALS STAY STATIONARY FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME, LIKE MY DOG RANGES WAY OUT OF MY VIEW MM-HMM. . SO I HAVE TO RELY ON MY GPS QUITE, QUITE OFTEN. MM-HMM. , YOU HAVE BEAUTIFULLY PROVIDED US WITH JUST PAGES AND PAGES OF DATA, WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATE AND MAKES OUR JOB A WHOLE LOT EASIER WHEN WE GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL OF THOSE PAGES AND PAGES OF DATA FOR OUR AREA. HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD YOU HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE A DOLLAR FOR JUST A WAG? WELL, I THINK, SO LAST YEAR WE, [02:20:01] WE HAD 84 CALLOUTS. WE FOUND 72 PEOPLE DURING THOSE CALL MM-HMM. . SO I WOULD SAY IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE 10 OR 15% OF THOSE. OKAY. WHERE WE MAY NOT KNOW IF THERE'S A CELLING YEAH. AS WELL AS THE CALLS THAT SEARCH DOGS WERE CALLED OUT FOR, BUT THERE WAS A DELAY IN RESPONSE. SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE COME THAT AFTERNOON OR EVENING BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE ONLY BE AVAILABLE FROM PRESCOTT MM-HMM. . AND SO THEY WOULD SCHEDULE 'EM FOR THE NEXT DAY IF WE AS, UM, HIKERS DID NOT FIND THEM. OKAY. SO IT REALLY ALLOWS FOR THAT EFFICIENCY. SO I HAD MY DOG ON THAT ONE CALL AT BALDWIN. SHE WENT WITH US. SHE DID, I HAD HER ON LEAD ON THE TRAIL, BUT WITH THE TERRAIN WHERE WE'RE AT A LOT OF STEEP SLOPE, SHE GOT INTO ODOR. I COULD TELL SHE KNEW THAT THEY WERE OUT THERE, BUT FROM THE PING OF THE CELL PHONE, THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE GONNA BE ON TRAIL. AND SHE, UM, DEFINITELY INDICATED THAT SAME. BUT IF I WOULD'VE LET HER OFF AND LET HER DO THE FINAL SEARCH OF THAT, WE WOULD'VE BEEN HIKING UP AND DOWN DE WASHES AND THAT. SO WE KEPT HER ON, ON LEAD ON TRAIL AND WE WERE ABLE, THANKFULLY THEY WERE AT THE LOCATION OF THEIR CELL IN OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WANDERING OR NOT ON LEAD. YEAH. SO THAT WE TOOK HER IN CASE THEY WEREN'T THERE, THEN WE COULD HAVE SEARCHED THAT. OKAY. THEN I'M ALMOST HEARING A HUNDRED PERCENT. I MEAN, WOULDN'T YOU TAKE YOUR, FOR THE MOST EVERYTHING, UNLESS YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN YOU'RE DWELL. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE SEARCH DOGS ON THIS SIDE, IN THIS UNIT, WE WOULD PREFER TO TAKE THEM ON THE MAJORITY OF OUR, OF OUR SEARCH GO. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT THERE AT THOSE PINGS YEAH. THEN IT'S A WIDE OPEN AREA. THE TIME WE WOULDN'T IS MIDDLE OF SUMMER. IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES OUT. OBVIOUSLY FOR THE DOG'S SAFETY, WE WOULD NOT DO THAT IF THE DOG CANNOT BE USED BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT I ISSUE. EXACTLY. BUT OTHERWISE YOU WOULD TAKE THEM IN ALL IN ORDER TO SPEED THE WHOLE PROCESS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THE OTHER THING THAT I, SO MY, THE MALE DOG IS ALSO CERTIFIED IN WHAT'S CALLED ARTICLE SEARCH MM-HMM. , WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL FOR THE SHERIFFS WHEN A SUBJECT, UH, SUSPECT MAY HAVE THROWN SOMETHING OUT OF A CAR OR DISCARDED SOMETHING ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE FOUND WITH IT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS MAY BE. YES. SO THAT MALE DOG WILL FIND ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T BELONG IN THAT DESERT, THAT WILDERNESS AREA, AND ALERT ON IT AND TELL YOU, HEY, THERE'S A FIREARM HERE, THERE'S A SPENT SHELL CASING HERE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A PACKAGE OF DRUGS OVER HERE. SO THEY CALL YOU FOR THAT AS WELL. THEY HAVEN'T BECAUSE WE JUST CERTIFIED THE DOG. BUT THEN THEY'LL START. BUT THAT WILL BEGIN. GOOD. EXCELLENT. THEY CALL THE UNIT FOR EVIDENCE SEARCHES AND NOW WE'LL HAVE DOGS ON THOSE EVIDENCE SEARCHES. I HATE TO CUT YOU GUYS OFF. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SORRY, ONE QUICK ONE. RATTLESNAKE TRAINING OR VACCINES? BOTH. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT GETS RE UM, DONE EVERY YEAR. EVERY DAY. ACTUALLY TWICE A YEAR AT THE MOMENT THAT WE'RE DOING RATTLES. DOES THAT RATTLESNAKE TRAINING REALLY WORK? IT IS EFFECTIVE. IT'S NOT GUARANTEED. OF COURSE, IF THE DOG'S RUNNING AT FULL SPEED HAPPENS TO STEP, YOU KNOW, IT'S I KNOW, BUT, BUT IT, IT CERTAINLY IS EFFECTIVE. SO MY MALE'S BEEN THROUGH, UM, ONE FULL CERTIFICATION AND THEN TWO REFRESHERS. WE JUST DID THE RATTLESNAKE TRAINING. HE AVOIDED THE RATTLESNAKE. LIKE CARRA. HE REMEMBERED IT FROM A YEAR AGO. YEAH. DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR IT. WOW. AND WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THING. YEAH. I, I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, I'VE HAD DOGS FOR OVER 15 YEARS. I TRAIN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM ON A RATTLESNAKE AVOIDANCE. AND EVEN IF YOU DO IT JUST ONCE, IT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH. I'VE GOT A FIVE YEAR OLD THAT WON'T GO WITHIN A BLOCK OF RATTLE . MM-HMM. . YEAH. THAT'S GOOD YOU GUYS. I HATE TO DO THAT. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT, BUT THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL OF YOUR COMMITMENT ENTITLE US. THANKS. THANKS. GOOD JOB. SEE YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HELPING US. THANK YOU. ARE YOU KIDDING? THANK YOU. THIS IS WHERE THIS IN-PERSON STUFF IS SO VALUABLE ISN'T I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW THE DEPTH OF WHAT IT IS, OF WHAT THE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE. AND IT'S EVOLVED SINCE THIS IS THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME THEY'VE BEEN IN FOR A GRANT AND THEY'RE YEAH. RADIOS. DRONES AND RADIOS. DRONES, YEAH. IT'S CONTINUED TO EVOLVE. IT'S LIKE, UH, AND IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC THING THEY WANT AND THAT'S SUCH A HELPFUL THING TO THINK, YOU KNOW. YEAH, EXACTLY. WANT A, WANT A DRONE? YOU KNOW? I KNOW. WANT A DOG WHEN WE GET CHALLENGED BY, UH, CITY COUNCILS, LIKE, DON'T START WITH IT. . ARE YOU GUYS READY? YEAH. OH YEAH. NO, I, I WANNA KEEP ON SCHEDULE AND I KNOW WE WENT OVER, BUT I DID THAT. I ALLOWED THAT ON PURPOSE. HEY, HOW ARE WE? HI YOUR GIRL. GOOD MORNING. SEE YOU. SEE YOU ALL, ALL YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, [02:25:01] WE ARE HERE FROM THE HUMMINGBIRD. YOU ARE YOU DOING? AND THIS IS BETH. YES. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND I'M KIM NAUDER FROM PHOENIX, THE GRANT DIRECTOR. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO. I'M SORRY, PATTY. I HAVE ONE. UH, LAST YEAR, UH, YOUR REQUEST WAS KIND OF JUST FOR THE MARKETPLACE PART OF THE PROGRAM, AND MAYBE I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THIS YEAR IT'S ALSO FOR THE MARKETPLACE, BUT ISN'T, IS IT ALSO FOR MORE A BROADER LOOK RATHER THAN JUST THE MARKETPLACE? WELL, THIS YEAR WE'RE LIVE STREAMING THE 14 PRESENTERS MM-HMM. , SO THAT WOULD BE A HELP FOR PEOPLE. I SEE. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE BASED ON YOUR COMMUNITY PLAN, WE LOOKED AT THE FUNDING REQUEST AND KIND OF YOUR PHILOSOPHY IS THAT YOU'D REALLY LIKE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE LOCALS. AND BECAUSE THIS IS A CONFERENCE FESTIVAL, UH, AND IT DOES APPEAL TO MANY PEOPLE, THERE ARE PAID OPPORTUNITIES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LINE. SURE. BUT THE MARKETPLACE ITSELF IS A COMMUNITY PUBLIC SPACE MM-HMM. FOR THE THREE DAYS MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHAT WE USE THAT FUNDING FOR, IS TO SUPPLY AND TO PROVIDE PROGRAMMING, UH, AT NO COST. MM-HMM. . SO ANY INDIVIDUAL FROM THE AREA CAN GO TO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, WALK IN AT NO COST. YOU DON'T PAY TO GET IN, BUT THE MARKETPLACE IS THE HUB OF THE THREE DAY FESTIVAL. YEAH. AND IT'S WHERE ALL THE ACTIVITIES ARE. SO WE TRY TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR PROVIDING NON DUPLICATED NO COST OPPORTUNITIES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE USE THE MARKETPLACE AS THE COMMUNITY GATHERING. OKAY. I JUST, I I'M SAYING I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD. I MY FAULT. THEN I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND READ IT. I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE USING THIS FUND REQUEST FOR MUCH MORE THAN JUST FOR THE MARKETPLACE THIS YEAR. WHEN LAST YEAR, IT SEEMED TO ME IT WAS JUST FOR THE MARKETPLACE, BUT LET'S JUST ERASE EVERYTHING I'VE JUST SAID. ALL RIGHT. AND I'LL GO BACK AND SPEND SOME MORE TIME WITH LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE MARKETPLACE? ABSOLUTELY. GAMINE, RET RATNA, WHO IS A SRI LANKAN AMERICAN, COMES AND HAS HIS ART DISPLAY MM-HMM. , AND HE'S JUST FINISHED DOING 350 IMAGES OF HUMMINGBIRDS. MM-HMM. . AND SO HE'S GOING TO BE GIVING ONE OF THE TALKS, DRAWING THE MARVELOUS SPATIAL TALE AND TEACHING HOW TO PAINT HUMMINGBIRDS. MM-HMM. . SO IT'S AN ART GALLERY. GOTTA HAVE 'EM STAND STILL, DON'T YOU? ? THAT'S LOVE PHOTOS. SO, UM, WE HAVE CHUCK WATKINS COMING AND HE HAS, UH, HUMOROUS HUMMINGBIRDS. AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO JUST HAVE THIS BATH AND HUMMINGBIRD ENERGY, WHICH CONNECTING PEOPLE TO WHAT THEY LOVE MM-HMM. AND CONNECTING TO NATURE AND UNDERSTANDING AND HELPING TO KEEP THEM GOING. YEAH. OKAY. SO THERE'S PHOTOGRAPHS, PAINTINGS, PHOTOGRAPHS, PAINTERS, DEMONSTRATIONS, DEMONSTRATIONS FREE, UM, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AT NO COST. MM-HMM. DURING EACH DAY THERE'S LIVE MUSIC. UM, IT ACTUALLY IS, UH, I MEAN, I EXPERIENCED IT LAST YEAR SO I CAN DESCRIBE IT. YOU, YOU ARRIVE AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING BECAUSE THEY'RE PICKING UP ALL THEIR LITTLE THINGS TO DO. BUT YOU CAN SPEND A COUPLE OF HOURS THERE ENJOYING, UH, THE ARTISTS, UH, WAITING FOR THE TIME TO PRESENTATIONS AT NO COST, TALKING TO THE ARTIST, TALKING TO, I MEAN, IT IS A, WE WE WERE THINKING IT'S BEEN CALLED MARKETPLACE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE ONLY THINGS FOR SALE, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES ON. THERE'S FOOD INSIDE THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE AND MAKE A, YOU KNOW, AN ACTIVITY OUT OF IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS. OKAY. YEAH. THE RAPTOR CENTER IS, IS ACTUALLY HAVING HAWKS THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A HUMMINGBIRD EVENT, IT'S MORE BROADER NATURE THERE PEOPLE, MY PART AND ONE OF THE TOPS ON BUTTERFLIES. OKAY. THE BUTTERFLY WONDERLANDS WILL BE THERE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. THE, UM, YOU HAVE 50 PER I, THE 50 50 ATTENDANCE OF SEDONA RESIDENTS. I KNOW THE 50% OF THE TICKETED ATTENDEES IS PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT COL COLLECT, AND THEN IT SAYS THERE'S ANOTHER, AN ADDITIONAL 450 LOCAL RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO ATTEND LOCAL RESIDENTS. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THOSE 450 [02:30:01] WERE LOCAL RESIDENTS? UH, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ESTIMATED THAT WE GET. AND WE COUNT PEOPLE AS THEY CHECK IN MM-HMM. . AND SO THEY ACTUALLY COME IN AND THERE'S A COUNTER THERE, UHHUH, COUNTING THE FOLKS AND ASKING THE QUESTIONS TO TRY AND TRACK FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE GIVEAWAYS AT THE FRONT DOOR. OKAY. SO THEY CAN GIVE US THEIR EMAIL AND WE ASK THEM EXACTLY. ARE YOU LOCAL ALONE? OKAY. SO WE'RE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A GROUP OF, GOSH, IT'S A TON OF VOLUNTEERS, ABOUT 60 TO 80 VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK THE EVENT. OKAY. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY INSTRUCTED TO TALK TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. AND, AND JUST START GETTING LIKE, WELL, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? YES. I ATTENDED IT AND I WENT ON THE, THE GARDEN TOUR LAST YEAR, AND I HEARD GERMAN SPEAKING PEOPLE. JAPANESE PEOPLE. IT'S AMAZING THE AMOUNT OF INTERNATIONAL PEOPLE THAT COME. AND SO THE, IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF FUN TO SAY, OH, NOW WHERE ARE YOU? AND YOU CAN SEE IT AT THEIR BIRDERS, A LOT OF BIRDERS. AND THEY'RE ALL IN THEIR OUTFITS. AND YOU JUST SAY, WELL, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I MET A YOUNG COUPLE, I MET A COUPLE IN THEIR EIGHTIES. SO IT'S A VERY WIDE RANGE OF, BECAUSE OUR, OUR MANDATE IS TO BE SURE WE'RE ONLY FINDING SUIT ON THE RESIDENCE. AND THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED. SO THERE IT IS A COMBINATION. OBVIOUSLY THE TICKET SALES ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND THEN THE COUNTING THING, IT'S, UH, AND THE ENTER TO WIN. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A COMBINATION OF, UM, DATA COLLECTION THERE ALONG WITH ANECDOTAL STATISTICS AND EVALUATIONS TOO. WE HAVE EVALUATIONS SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE ALL FROM AND WE HAVE RECORD OF WHO'S PAID WHAT FROM WHERE, AND WE HAD A RED HUMMINGBIRD FOUNTAIN. AND YOU COME IN AND PEOPLE WOULD WRITE TO WIN THAT. RIGHT. THE ENTER TO WIN. YES. RIGHT. OKAY. NO, GOOD. THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF SOMETIMES THE BEST YOU CAN DO. AND I, YOU KNOW, JUST, AND WE DO THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THIS GRANT. RIGHT. . RIGHT. NO, I KNOW THAT. AND WE'D REALLY LIKE TO PROMOTE AND ADVERTISE THAT THE MARKETPLACE IS NO COST. NO. SO ANY OF OUR PROMOTIONALS, BUT ONCE THEY GET THERE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SPEND MONEY IN THE MARKETPLACE AND BUY A BIG PAINTING, OR THEY MAY BUY SOME TICKETS TO SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES OR STAY FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. YOU ANSWER, YOU ANSWERED VERY WELL. THAT'S JUST, I WONDER, SHOULD THAT YOU HAVE EVERY SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN REALLY, IN ORDER TO DO IT. IT'S THE SAME AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, ARTS COALITION AND ALL OF THAT AND THE SEDONA ARTS. WE, I GET IT. AND YOU'VE DONE, YOU'VE DONE JUST FINE. YOU'VE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE HUMMINGBIRD BALLOONS BLOWING THIS TIME. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET. I DON'T KNOW THIS . AND THE OTHER PART OF THE MARKETPLACE THAT WE WANT TO KEEP PROMOTING IS YES, IT DOES COST TO PARTICIPATE. LIKE OTHER NONPROFITS ARE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS THAT YOU WORK WITH THAT HAVE SPACE IN THAT MARKETPLACE PROMOTING THEIR OWN NONPROFITS. SO IN THAT WAY WE DO THAT. SO SHE HAS A MANY PARTNERS THAT YOU WORK WITH? NO, RED ROCK STATE PARK AND NORTHERN ARIZONA AUDUBON SOCIETY. NO, YOU GUYS ARE COVERED. I MEAN, OVER THE YEARS YOU'VE GOTTEN, YOU'VE TIGHTENED THINGS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO HELP US DO OUR JOB. KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. RIGHT. SO HOW HAVE THE LIVE STREAMING WORK THAT'S OF THE, OF THE PAID, UH, PRESENT PRESENTERS, RIGHT. THAT YOU'D BE LIVE STREAMING ONLY THEN TWO PEOPLE WHO COULD WATCH THE LIVE STREAMING. UH, ANY ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, COULD WATCH IT. SO EVEN THOUGH I DON'T PAY MY MONEY AND I DON'T GO TO THE MARKETPLACE, AND I DON'T GO TO THE FESTIVAL, OH, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S, IF I'M AT HOME, $75 FOR THE WHOLE THREE DAYS. I SEE. SO YOU CAN CONSIDER TALKING THE AMOUNT. I SEE. BUT IT, BUT IT'S PART OF THE ENTRY FEE, ESSENTIALLY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. SAY. BUT DONOR MEDIA, RON AND ANGELO DO ALL THAT. THEY'RE WONDERFUL. GOOD. AND THEN WE SUPPORT ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THE ART GALLERIES, AND ALL THE SHOPPING AND ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HERE AND THE BEAUTY AND PEOPLE TO WHAT THEY LOVE. HATE TO CUT YOU OFF WHEN WE'RE OUT OF TIME. OKAY. OKAY. THANK VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. NICE MEETING YOU ALL TOO. TAKE CARE, BETH. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR DON'T REMEMBER. SOUNDS GOOD. THEY NEED TO I KNOW. YEAH. BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT'S FOR. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S CLEAR. OKAY. SO I APPRECIATE IT. HAVE YOU BEEN TERESA TO THE HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL? YEAH. NO, I, I'VE ONLY GONE TO THE MARKETPLACE, BUT IT, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THAT. AND IT WAS A BIG GATHERING. I IT SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL EVENT. AND, UM, WE HAD [02:35:01] FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BETH'S HUSBAND, ROSS KIND OF SPEARHEADED THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND OR THIRD YEAR YEAH. SINCE HE'S PASSED MM-HMM. . UM, SO THEY'VE KIND OF RE REINVENTED THEMSELVES AFTER ROSS PASSED. I THINK IT'S MORE PROFESSIONAL NOW. YEAH. YEAH. UM, THAT'S MY IMPRESSION. YEAH. NO, I THINK THEY'VE GOTTEN MORE DELIBERATE ABOUT THEIR EVENTS AND MORE STRUCTURED AND MORE STRUCTURED. YES. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . I THINK KAREN'S, UH, WONDERING, . YEAH. HOW ARE WE DOING? 10 37? OH, WE GOT, GIVE US MINUTES. JUST LET STEPHANIE COME BACK. THEY SEEM MORE POLISHED EACH YEAR, THE GROUPS. WELL, I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. THEY'RE LEARNING THE, THE LANGUAGE EVERYBODY. . UM, WELL, STEPHANIE HAS THAT WONDERFUL, UH, EARLY ON DISCUSSION ON HOW APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THIS. MM-HMM. WOULD BE YES. OH, THE GRANT WRITING WORKSHOP. RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT HELPS A LOT. I THINK PEOPLE ALSO LEARNED, LIKE, UM, LISA'S ANGOLA PLAYERS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOTTEN MUCH BETTER AT HER PROGRAM. AND SOMEONE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW CHAOTIC IT WAS, AND I REMEMBER FIVE YEARS AGO IT WAS LIKE, HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS? THANK YOU. YEAH. THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HAS MANDATORY, UM, ATTENDANCE REQUIRED AT GRANT WRITING. AT GRANT WRITING, UH, PRIOR TO SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT APPLICATIONS. YES. DID YOU GET A GOOD TURNOUT AT THE GRANT WRITING THING? THIS, THIS YEAR? GOOD. GOOD. YEAH, THIS ROOM WAS 30 PEOPLE. WOW. GREAT. AND YOU CAN REALLY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE. IN FACT, YOU, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY. READING MEETS WHO CAME AND . YEAH. I ALWAYS ASK GUYS, DID THEY COME? I WONDER. GOOD MORNING. HI. OH, OKAY. THANKS FOR COMING IN TO BE HERE. AND, AND WHAT IS YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS SUE BUFF. YOU SUE, ARE YOU, OH, YOU'RE AT THE, YOU TOOK OVER FOR MARION? UH, YES. WELL, MARION HAD SERVED FOR A WHILE AS OUR PRESIDENT AND THEN OTHER ROLES, BUT YES, SHE'S ON OUR ADVISORY BOARD, BUT SHE'S MOVED OUT. OH, SHE'S STILL AROUND HERE. YEAH. SHE, WELL, SHE'S MOVED ON TO TEXAS. TO PHOENIX. PHOENIX OR AT THE VALLEY. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, UM, LET'S SEE. WHAT WE DO IS, IF WE'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WE FIRE AWAY. WE HAVE 10 MINUTES. AND IF WE DON'T, IF WE RUN OUTTA QUESTIONS, THEN YOU GET TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. SO. SURE. UM, CTA, I, I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DO YOU GUYS, WHAT'S UP? WOULD THE PANEL OPEN UP? NO. NOPE. TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS YEAR. OKAY. WELL, MY FIRST COMMENT I WANNA MAKE, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE OFFICIALLY CHANGED OUR NAME TO THE SEDONA SYMPHONY. OH, WOW. YEAH. WOW. UH, WE FEEL IT. UH, LOOK, IT SOUNDS GREAT, . IT SOUNDS GREAT. AND IT, UM, I THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE NAME RECOGNITION BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS SEDONA, YOU KNOW, VERDE VALLEY. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IN CIERA. THAT CONFUSES A LOT OF PEOPLE. LIKE WHAT'S A CIERA? AND, UM, THIS IS OUR HOME. UH, OUR OFFICE ARE HERE. WE PERFORM AT SPAC FOR ALL OUR CONCERTS. MM-HMM. AND, UH, SO GOOD. WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD CHANGE. YEAH. SO WE'RE STILL, IT'S, IT'S A KIND OF A PROCESS. IT'S OFFICIALLY BEEN CHANGED WITH THE STATES, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA WORK ON GETTING OUR NEW LOGO OUT THERE AND CHANGING ALL OUR, YOU KNOW, PUBLICITY AND OUR, UM, MEDIA AND ALL. AND SO THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. BUT, SO YOU'RE REBRANDING? WE'RE REBRANDING, YES. OKAY. EXCELLENT. SO WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO THIS YEAR? WELL, WE, UM, WE WILL SOON ANNOUNCE OUR, UM, WE HAVE A FOUR CONCERT SEASON COMING UP. AS WE HAD MENTIONED IN THE GRANT, WE HAVE HIRED A NEW MUSIC DIRECTOR, UH, ARTISTIC DIRECTOR, CONDUCTOR JANNA HINES, UM, WHO'S VERY ACCOMPLISHED. AND, UH, SHE GAVE A FABULOUS, SHE LED A FABULOUS CONCERT IN APRIL AND . WE WERE DOING AUDITIONS LAST YEAR, AND SHE WAS OUR FINAL CANDIDATE. AND SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST, OUR FIRST PICK. AND SHE'S AGREED TO BE WITH US. SO SHE'LL BE LEAVING FOUR, UM, CONCERTS THIS YEAR. CLASSICAL CONCERTS. IT'S BACK. UH, WE HAVE THE DATES ALREADY. UM, AND WE WILL BE PUBLISHING THE REPERTOIRE SOON. UM, WE'RE, WE'VE HIRED MOST OF THE SOLOISTS, SO, UM, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, AS THE GRANT SAID, DO A POPS CONCERTS. UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING A POPS CONCERT FOR A WHILE, BUT, UM, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT WITH A NEW DIRECTOR WHO'S HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DOING POPS CONCERTS IN VARIOUS VENUES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE SHE'S, UM, JENNA, MUSIC DIRECTOR, UM, AND, UH, SHE'S VERY ENERGETIC, SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO MORE OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. OKAY. I THINK I READ THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE A FREE CONCERT FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT THIS TO BE, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO A FREE CONCERT. OKAY. UM, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR [02:40:01] SUPPORT FROM THE CITY BECAUSE, UM, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING FOR US TO DO IT. AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, WE KNOW WE HIRE 36 PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AS WELL AS THE CONDUCTOR TO DO OUR CONCERTS. IT'S, UM, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SOMETHING LIKE CHAMBER MUSIC, WHERE THEY BRING IN MAYBE FOUR TO EIGHT PEOPLE TO PERFORM. WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BE, UM, PLUS, YOU KNOW, WRITINGS BACK, ET CETERA. SO, UM, SO IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING FOR US TO DO ON OUR, ON OUR OWN. UM, AND WE'D LOVE SOME MORE FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO DO IT, AND WE THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR HALF THE COST OF THE LESS THAN, I THINK IT'S LESS THAN HALF THE COST. I THINK WE, UH, WE HAVE THE, THE BUDGET IN THERE. I THINK THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IN TOTAL WOULD BE CLOSE TO, UM, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 28%. IT'S 28%. YEAH. MOST OF IT WOULD BE COMING FROM OUR OWN FUNDS OR, OR OUR DONORS. MM-HMM. TO US. DO YOU THINK YOU CAN FILL SPAC WITH 150 PEOPLE? WE WOULD LOVE TO. WE DID FILL SPAC, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WAS I THINK 2017 WHEN WE BROUGHT IN CARLOS NAKA, THE, UM, NATIVE AMERICAN FLATTEST. SO HE, HE HAS A BIG FOLLOWING IN THE AREA, AND WE ACTUALLY FILLED SPAC FOR THAT ONE. AND WE DID A RUNOUT AT, UM, PHILLIP ENGLISH, ENGLISH ENGLAND, IN, UH, CAMP VERDE. SO WE'RE HOPING, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ADVERTISED ENOUGH WITH THE, IN THE SCHOOLS, WE, WE WOULD TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUR MUSICIANS, HOPEFULLY OUR MUSIC DIRECTOR INTO THE SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, DRUM UP SUPPORT. WE REALLY WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE YOUNGER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN MUSIC. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE SEDONA SCHOOL SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THAT MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR MUSIC. I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE SMALL SCHOOL, IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN ORCHESTRA, THEY DON'T HAVE A CHORUS, FOR INSTANCE, THEY CAN'T DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT A BIGGER HIGH SCHOOL CAN DO. BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE. WE'RE KIDS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A, A CONCERT. THEY'RE SCARED OF A CLASSICAL CONCERT, BUT WE FEEL BY DOING POPS, IT'LL HAVE A MUCH BROADER APPEAL THAN, YOU KNOW MM-HMM. MAYBE LONGER TERM WILL HOPEFULLY INCREASE OUR AUDIENCE AS WELL AS PEOPLE GET MORE EXPOSURE TO US. MM-HMM. , SHE, UM, WE, WE HAD, UM, SPOKEN EARLIER WITH ELISE MONET, WHO'S WITH ANGLO PLAYERS. RIGHT. AND SHE, DO YOU KNOW ELISE? I'VE MET ELISE IN THE PAST. OH YEAH. OKAY. SHE, UM, SHE SAID SHE HAD HAD GREAT SUCCESS LAST YEAR BRINGING FIRST TIME PARENTS INTO HER PROGRAMS. SO SHE, YOU MIGHT TOUCH BASE WITH HER, HER, BECAUSE THOSE PARENTS NOW THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO A LITTLE BIT OF ART AND THEY KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S AT NO CHARGE MIGHT VERY WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF VERY WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIDS, KIDS WILL BRING THEIR PARENTS AND, UM, YEAH. AND IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL APPEAL TO, AGAIN, A WIDER AUDIENCE THAN MAYBE CLASS COULD USE IT ON ITS OWN, WHICH CAN BE SCARY FOR SOME PEOPLE. THEY THINK, OH, I DON'T LIKE THIS KIND OF STUFF. BUT IN FACT, IF THEY EXPERIENCED IT, THEY REALLY WOULD FIND THAT THEY WOULD ENJOY IT. YEAH, DEFINITELY. YEAH. AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S EXCITING TO SEE MORE, MORE OF THE ARTS. I KNOW THAT THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, A DANCE PROGRAM THAT STARTED IN, IN SEDONA, WHICH IS GREAT. AND I KNOW THEY'RE DOING A, A THEATRICAL PROGRAM AT THE LIBRARY FOR KIDS TO PARTICIPATE IN. SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL GOOD STUFF TOO, BY LITTLE. LET'S SEE, ANYTHING ELSE? PANEL, WELL, EVEN, YOU'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES AT A TIME. SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL US ANYTHING MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR WHERE YOU'RE HEADED, OR WHAT EXACTLY IS POPS POP? WELL, POPS IS A, IT'S A WIDE VARIETY, YOU KNOW, WIDE TERM. IT CAN INCLUDE SOME, I WOULD SAY TRADITIONAL CLASSICAL MUSIC, BUT THAT PEOPLE KNOW, LIKE, LIKE THE WILLIAM TELL OVERTURE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN SO MANY, SO MANY THINGS, A NUMBER OF POPS CONCERT. AND, AND WE HAVEN'T PLANNED THE CONCERT OUT. I MEAN, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE CITY, ET CETERA. UM, YOU FOUND OTHER ART, UM, ORCHESTRAS THAT HAVE DONE LIKE, LIKE A PROGRAM OF BEATLES MUSIC, BUT PROGRAMMED FOR ORCHESTRAL MUSIC. MM-HMM. , UH, PEOPLE HAVE DONE THE MUSIC OF JOHN WILLIAMS CAUSE HE'S DONE SO MANY THEATER, OR THEY'VE DONE STAR WARS. MM-HMM. . UM, SO THOSE ARE PRO, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT TEND TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO. I DON'T KNOW. SOME OF THOSE COULD BE PRETTY EXTENSIVE JUST TO GET THE RIGHTS TO THE MUSIC, WHICH IS ANOTHER ANOTHER ISSUE THAT CAN COME UP. MM-HMM. AND HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT. UM, BUT THOSE ARE SOME, SOME THINGS, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF, OF POPS. IT'S STUFF THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT KNOW, OR DISNEY, YOU COULD DO THE WHOLE THING OF DISNEY MUSIC, UM MM-HMM. . SO, SO YOU, BUT YOU HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED A PARTICULAR THEME, UH, THAT'S AT THIS POINT WE, I KNOW JAN HAS A NUMBER OF IDEAS MM-HMM. , UM, BUT THERE IS GONNA BE ONE, UM, OR NO? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON IF, IF WE DON'T GET THE FUNDING, IF WE DON'T GET ANY FUNDING FROM THE CITY, WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY THINK ABOUT HARD, WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO. YEAH. I THINK [02:45:01] YOU SAID IF YOU GOT PARTIAL FUNDING, THEN YOU MAY HAVE TO CHARGE. WE MIGHT HAVE, WE DON'T WANNA CHARGE. I MEAN, THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO HAVE A JUST AS SOON AS YOU PUT A PRICE ON, EVEN IF IT'S LOW. I MEAN, OUR TICKET PRICES START AT $15 FOR ADULTS, HALF OF THAT, SEVEN 50 FOR CHILDREN. SO THEY'RE NOT SUPER EXPENSIVE. UM, BUT THAT'S ENOUGH TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM, FROM GOING. SO EVEN IF WE HAD TO CHARGE $5, I THINK PEOPLE'S GONNA PICK, PICK TWICE ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD GO. SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S KIND OF OUR FEELING, FEELING AT THIS POINT. SO WOULD THIS POPS CONCERT BE ONE OF THE FOUR THAT YOU MENTIONED? NO. WOULD BE, WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL CONCEPT? YEAH. YEAH. OUR FOUR ARE OFFERED AS A SUBSCRIPTION, ALTHOUGH MOST OF OUR TICKETS ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO SUBSCRIBE TO ALL FOUR. UM, BUT WE WOULD NOT INCLUDE IT AS ONE A FOUR. OKAY. YEAH. THOSE, THOSE REPERTOIRES HAVE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH BEEN SET. YEAH. AND THEY SHOULD BE. AND WHEN MIGHT, WHEN MIGHT, WHEN DOES THIS HAPPEN? WELL, THAT'S, THIS IS ANOTHER, WELL, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET. IT'S PARTLY A PROBLEM OF SCHEDULING. IT'S GOTTEN VERY DIFFICULT TO SCHEDULE BACK AND, YEAH. AND, WHICH IS GOOD. IT CAN BE A GOOD THING, IT CAN BE A BAD THING FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO JUGGLE SCHEDULES FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR ARTISTIC DIRECTOR, OUR MUSICIANS WHO PERFORM IN OTHER VENUES. YES. AND THEN SPAC, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A JIGSAW PUZZLE TRYING TO PUT HER ALL TOGETHER. SO IT, THAT'S, IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF DATES. I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY, AT THIS POINT, WOULD BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE SPRING, UM, POTENTIALLY WHENEVER, BUT WHEN WE, WE WOULD WANNA DO IT, WE THINK ON A, UM, A WEEKEND. OUR CON OUR SERIES CONCERTS ARE ALL ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST TIME FOR THIS. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. WOULD ALSO, COULD BE LIKE AN EARLY SATURDAY EVENING OR MAYBE A FRIDAY, FRIDAY EVENING, NOT TOO LATE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SEVEN O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE OR SOMETHING. LIKE AN HOUR AND A HALF MAX. WE NEED TO PLAN MM-HMM. . YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, US, BUT YEAH, WE'RE ALL VERY, WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED. WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE ENTERING A NEW CHAPTER. YEAH. SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S GREAT. IT'S FINE. IT'S, IT'S GREAT. AND I SAID OUR NEW, NEW ARTISTIC DIRECTOR HAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND A LOT OF IDEAS. SO I HAVE, UH, I HEARD THAT FROM A FRIEND OF MINE WHO, UH, WHO, WHO WAS JUST IN VERY ENTRU ABOUT THE NEW DIRECTOR AND HOW WHAT THE ENERGY THAT WAS COMING IN THAT WAS COMING. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. I'VE HAD SEVERAL, NO NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH HER. AND, UH, SHE'S EXCITED AND SHE LOVES SEDONA AND SHE HADN'T BEEN HERE BEFORE AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOT A RED ROCK FEVER WHEN SHE CAME. SO SHE'LL COME HERE MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A YEAR. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY YES. SHE'LL COME HERE. SHE'S NOT, DOESN'T LIVE HERE. SHE DOESN'T, NOT NOT, DOES NOT CURRENTLY LIVE HERE. SHE HAS ANOTHER ORCHESTRA THAT SHE CONDUCTS THAT HAS A MUCH BIGGER SCHEDULE. IT'S A BIG ORCHESTRA. AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE APPEALS OF OURS. WE'RE A CHAMBER ORCHESTRA, SO THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF MUSIC, WONDERFUL MUSIC FOR CHAMBER ORCHESTRAS. IT'S NOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG STUFF THAT A BIG ORCHESTRA CAN PLAY. AND SHE'S JUST ENTHUSED ABOUT DOING THAT KIND OF WORK. YOU KNOW, LOVE SEDONAS, USE THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE. AND SO, YEAH. OKAY. IT'S ALL GOOD. THANK YOU, SUE. OH, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE. APPRECIATE IT. NICE. YOU, VERY NICE MEETING YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OH, OUR PLEASURE. WHOOPS. ALRIGHT, GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK RIGHT AROUND THE BLOCK, , MAN. WE'RE, THIS IS AMAZING. RIGHT ON THE MINUTE, I KNOW , SHE BROUGHT MY BUDDY WEAPON AC SITTING. YES. YEAH. YOU GUYS ARE ON YOUR GAME AS USUAL, ASKING THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. OH, COUNT ON STEPHANIE IF YOU'RE THE REAL IMPORTANT ONES. . THAT QUILLER. IT LOOKS LIKE CORN. SHE'S REALLY NAILED THAT. SHE WAS STARING AT THAT. THIS ONE. I'M GAS. I LOVE THIS TREE ONE. I'M LIKE, HOW THE HECK [02:50:01] DID SHE DO THIS? THIS ONE OVER HERE? YES. I LOVE THE AIR. THE OTHER ONE. THOSE ARE MY, YOU SHOULD DO A STUDENTS FREE ACCOMPANIED BY A PAIN ADULT . YES. ACTUALLY, I CAME FROM FLORIDA IN, YOU WERE IN SARASOTA AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ARTS AVAILABLE MM-HMM. . AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN OPERA AND ORCHESTRA, AND I WAS VERY GRATIFIED TO HEAR THE TICKET PRICES FOR THE SYMPHONY. YEAH. SYMPHONY. YES. THAT'S WITHIN, YEAH. YES. THAT'S, THAT SURPRISED ME. YEAH. REALLY? YEAH, I COULD, I COULD SPRING FOR $15 A WEEK. I COULD DO THAT. SURE. YEAH. I THINK THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO KNOW. YEAH. SEDONA SYMPHONY. YEAH. THAT DOES MAKE MORE SENSE, I THINK. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I SY I COULD, I HAD A HARD TIME PRONOUNCING IT. SYMPHONY. FUNNY. YEAH. IT JUST SOUNDS MORE, UM, EXOTIC. I, I MEAN, THAT'S, EXOTIC ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD. UM, PRETENTIOUS MAYBE, BUT THERE ARE TO SAY, SO I, I THINK THEIR NEW NAME IS, UH, MORE OBVIOUS WHAT THEY REALLY ARE. MM-HMM. . WELL, AND VERDE VALLEY, SY SYMPHONY. THAT FEELS LIKE MORE DISTANT AND SEDONA SYMPHONY. IT'S LIKE, WE ARE HERE. YES. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THERE'S A REAL, THERE'S A CHANGE THERE IN WE'RE HERE AND BIGGER IT SOUNDS LIKE. YEAH. I LIKE THE ALLITERATION TOO, OF THE MM-HMM. , SEDONA SYMPHONY GOES TOGETHER VERY SMOOTHLY ACROSS THE TONGUE, , AND THEY'RE OURS, AND WE'RE GONNA USE THEM. AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TOO. MM-HMM. QUILTS JUST AIN'T FOR BEDS ANYMORE, ARE THEY? OH, NO. YEAH. I'M REMEMBERING THE QUILTS, MY ANCIENT GERMAN ISH GRANDMOTHER MADE THAT WERE, UH, MADE OUT OF CHUNKS OF OLD MEN'S BULL PANTS THAT WORE OUT, AND THEY WERE JUST KIND OF CHUNKS OF WOOL THAT SHE WOULD SEW TOGETHER TO, TO MAKE A BLANKET ESSENTIALLY. DID SHE WASH 'EM FIRST? OH, I DOUBT IT. KNOWING MY GRANDMOTHER. HELLO? HELLO? HELLO? HELLO. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO. I REMEMBER YOU FROM LAST YEAR. OH, YES. YES. AND THE YEAR BEFORE. AND THE YEAR BEFORE . THE YEAR BEFORE. THAT'S RIGHT. . OH, OH. IS HENRY MESSY. WHAT, UM, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES HERE WITH YOU, AS YOU KNOW, AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEN, UM, IF NOT, WE TURN IT OVER TO YOU. SO HERE, IN ADDITION TO YOUR CONCERTS, COULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR SCHOOL OUTREACH IN TERMS OF WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW MANY? AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO HAVE, UM, KIDS FROM SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY IN SEDONA. BUT THIS YEAR, FOR THE FIRST TIME WE HAD, UH, CHILDREN FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONE WHO TAKE CARE OF THAT, BUT FROM, FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHO CAME TO THE CHRISTMAS CONCERTS AND THEY CAME AGAIN TO THE, TO THE THREE DAYS FESTIVAL. SO THAT WAS FOR US, VERY, UH, POSITIVE TO SEE THAT, BECAUSE IN A WAY, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD, UH, SO MANY CHILDREN. MM-HMM. . OKAY. YOU KNOW, SO THE PERSON WHO TOOK CARE OF THAT SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME WORK IN THIS DIRECTION. UH, WE HAD EVEN LITTLE CHILDREN LIKE THAT. IF YOU WATCH THE FESTIVAL, YOU WILL SEE THE LITTLE KIDS. THAT WAS, UM, SO DID THEY COME AS A SCHOOL GROUP, OR WERE THE PARENTS BRINGING UP NO, THEY CAME WITH THEIR PARENTS. WE MM-HMM. . AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL, ESPECIALLY FOR CLASSICAL MUSIC, TO SEE LITTLE KIDS. MM-HMM. , IT'S, UH, IT'S A BIG THING. YEAH. TO SEE THAT. ESPECIALLY THE ONE WHO CAME, BECAUSE THE, THE CHRISTMAS CONCERT WAS OF COURSE, DURING DECEMBER, AND WE DIDN'T THINK THEY WILL COME FOR LAST MONTH, UH, FESTIVAL IN MAY FOR THE BIG FESTIVAL, BUT WE, WE SAW THEM BACK, SO THAT WAS WONDERFUL. SANDRA, CAN YOU GUESS HOW MANY CHILDREN? UM, HOW MANY CHILDREN? WE HAD THREE MEXICAN LITTLE KIDS WHO CAME, BECAUSE ONE WORK WITH ME, SHE'S, UH, NINE YEARS OLD. SHE WORKS WITH ME FOR THE CHRISTMAS CONCERT. SO SHE BROUGHT THREE LITTLE MEXICAN CHILDREN. THAT [02:55:01] WAS WONDERFUL. I KNOW BETWEEN, MAYBE WE HAD MAYBE 12. GOOD. FROM, FROM WESTED SCHOOL, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS EXACTLY. WESTED. YEAH. MM-HMM. . SEE, BUT THE, THE MEXICAN CHILDREN WERE FROM COTTONWOOD. OH, VERY GOOD. OKAY. RIGHT. MM-HMM. . SO WE FELT GOOD. WE FELT THAT WE MADE SOME PROGRESS MM-HMM. FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. AND, UM, AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN STUDY MUSIC THAT WILL BE, UH, UH, EVEN BIGGER STEP MM-HMM. FOR US. MM-HMM. . I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO, TO PROMOTE CLASSICAL MUSIC, BECAUSE THAT'S THE GOAL ALSO OF PIANO AND ROCKS TO, TO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE, AS I SAY, EVERY YEAR, TO, TO STUDY CLASSICAL MUSIC. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? MELISSA TOWN HAS MORE QUESTIONS. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY WITH US ABOUT THIS YEAR? WELL, THIS YEAR I ACTUALLY, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE HAD A FULL HOUSE, UH, IN MAY. IN MAY. I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF YOU WENT TO THE FESTIVAL. UH, SO WE HAD A FULL HOUSE, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST AND THIRD DAY. AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE, UH, EXCEPTIONAL ARTIST. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS HERE, THE, THE SOPRANO FROM THE BOGOTA, UH, THE GERMAN ME SOPRANO FROM THE, IN GERMANY. AND, UH, PIANIST, AN AMERICAN PIANIST. WE LIVE IN PARIS. UH, SO IT'S, IT'S A QUALITY. ALL OF US WE PLAY IN CARNEGIE HALL, IN CENTER, YOU KNOW, AND, AND FOR THEM, OF COURSE, WE CANNOT PAY THEM THE WAY WE PAY THEM, YOU KNOW, IN THE EAST COAST. BUT THEY ARE VERY HAPPY TO COME HERE, UH, TO WORK BECAUSE IT'S AN INTENSIVE WORK. A WEEK OF, UM, 12 HOURS A DAY, I WILL SAY TO, TO, TO PROVIDE THIS NINE HOURS FESTIVAL OF CLASSICAL MUSIC. BUT THEY ARE ALL HAPPY. THEY WANT TO COME BACK. THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE. THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE COURSE . AND I DON'T KNOW, I BROUGHT YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW, DID YOU SEE THE, THE REVIEW OF THE FESTIVAL? NO. PLEASE SHARE. UM, ALSO, SANDRA, WHAT VENUE, WHAT VENUE DO YOU PLAY IN? I, I FORGET. REFRESH MY MEMORY. WHAT VENUE PLACE? WHERE, WHERE? HERE. OH, THIS YEAR WE DID IT AGAIN AT THE SEDONA UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. OKAY. RIGHT. THAT'S A BIG ONE. AND YOU HAD A FULL HOUSE THERE? WE, IT WAS ONE, THE FIRST SURVEY. SECOND DAY WE HAD PEOPLE MAYBE NOT AS MUCH AS THE FIRST AND SURVEY MM-HMM. , BUT, YOU KNOW, AND WE WORK AS ALSO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SEDONA SAND UDO'S PUBLICITY. MM-HMM. SED AND OUR PHOTOGRAPHER, WHAT IS IT? GARY, GARY GLEN. MM-HMM. , WHO, WHO WE LOVE. WE LOVE GARY GLEN. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THEY HELP US TO, TO DECIDE, THEY HELP US TO PUBLICIZE AND TO BRING MORE PEOPLE. SO OF COURSE, OUR GOAL IS TO, TO FIND MORE POSSIBILITY TO HAVE GRANTS MAYBE THIS YEAR ON, IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA. MM-HMM. . WE HAVE, UH, UM, WONDERFUL SUPPORT OF THE ANNA MARIA MODULE FOUNDATION. IT'S A FOUNDATION THAT SUPPORT THE ART, UH, ON THE EAST COAST. AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE FOUNDATION ALWAYS COME TO THE FESTIVAL. SO THAT'S, THEY ARE GREAT SUPPORT. THAT'S WHY WE ARE ABLE TO, TO, TO PROVIDE, UH, UH, FREE CONCERTS AND TO, TO BRING MORE PEOPLE, OF COURSE. MM-HMM. , THAT'S THE GOAL. YOU, UH, ALL RIGHT. YEAH. FREE CONCERTS ARE AMAZING, AREN'T THEY? WELL, YES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD, OUR BOARD, IT'S ALWAYS THE DISCUSSION. SHOULD WE MAKE THE FESTIVAL, YOU KNOW, FREE WITH, UH, SO, SO FAR THE, THE BOARD, THEY WANT TO PRESERVE THE, THE FREES TO BRING MORE PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY SAY IF A COUPLE COME WITH A KID, IT'S ALREADY A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEM. SO MM-HMM. , IT'S WHAT WE TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE, WE CAN DO IT. WE, WE DO IT. FREE CONCERNS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM. , THAT'S A PRETTY, UH, BIG VENUE. THE METHODIST CHURCH. HOW, HOW MANY DOES IT SEAT? UM, 170. [03:00:01] OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT FOR NEXT FESTIVAL, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT FESTIVAL WE HAVE, THE DATE ALREADY WILL BE IN APRIL. WE WERE THINKING TO MAYBE TO CHANGE THE VENUE WITH THE CREATIVE LIFE CENTER, BECAUSE THE THEME WE, WE BRING TO PIANO, WE NEED TWO PIANOS FROM BIG PIANOS FROM PHOENIX, WHICH IS NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CANNOT HAVE USED A LITTLE PIANO WITH THE, THE ARTISTS WE HAVE. SO WE BRING TWO PIANO FROM PHOENIX, WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK, ALSO A LOT OF MONEY ALSO. AND WE NEED THE ROOM TO PUT THOSE TWO PIANOS. MM-HMM. . SO IT'S A LOT OF LOGISTIC, A LOT OF THINKING. A LOT OF WORK. I'M STILL TIRED FROM THE, I BET YOU ARE. I'M STILL TIRED FROM THE MAY MAY FESTIVAL. I'M NOT SURPRISED. I MEAN, YOU ALL, I JUST WENT TO SLEEP, BUT I'M GOING BACK TO PHILADELPHIA FOR A WEEK TO WORK WITH 40 VIOLINISTS. SO I, I AM A LITTLE BIT TIRED, USED TO THINK ABOUT . SO FROM THE FESTIVAL TO THAT, I'M A LITTLE BIT , READY TO REST. OKAY. YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE CREATIVE LIFE CENTER, AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A NICE MM-HMM. A NICE STAGE. THE FIRST FESTIVAL NINE YEARS AGO WAS AT THE CREATIVE LIFE CENTER. IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER. RIGHT. AND THEY HAVE, THEY TOLD ME 150 SEEDS, THEY CAN PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES. RIGHT. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WILL CONTINUE THE, THE, SO WE MOVED FROM ONE CONCERT FOR CHRISTMAS TO TWO WITH THE LIBRARY. WE HAD THE LIBRARY, AND, UM, UNITED METHOD D CHURCH, WE DID TWO HOLIDAY CONCERTS. SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A SERVE ONE IN DECEMBER IF, UM, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE COMING. BUT THE BIG THING IS THE FESTIVAL WITH ALL THOSE INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS WHO ARRIVE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THEY STAY? HELLO? ONE IS STAYING WITH THE TREASURER OF THE BOARD. ONE, ONE, UH, WE FIND HER AIRBNB. MM-HMM. , WE FIND HOTELS. MM-HMM. , UH, ONE IS STAYING WITH, WITH US. MM-HMM. IN, IN MY HOUSE HERE. WE TRY TO FIND THE MOST ECONOMICAL WAY, BUT THE TREASURER HAS A PIANO, SO ONE OF THE PIANOS CAN PRACTICE THERE BECAUSE WE NEED PLACES TO PRACTICE. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, BUT ALL THE RARE ARE IN MY HOUSE BECAUSE I HAVE TWO BIG PIANOS. SO WE CAN REHEARSE THERE. NICE. WHICH SAVE US MONEY AND TIME AND MM-HMM. , SO THEY ALL ARE IN THE VILLAGE. WE TRY TO PUT THEM ALL IN THE VILLAGE FOR THE LOGISTIC OF MOVING THEM AROUND. MM-HMM. , IT'S A HUGE PRODUCTION. OH, IT IS. HUGE PRODUCTION. ANYTHING ELSE, CAROL? NO. OH, . I ENJOY THE DAY. A BEAUTIFUL DAY. BEAUTIFUL DAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BYE-BYE. BYE. OKAY. GARDENS. GARDENS FOR HUMANITY. IF IT'S RICHARD, HE'S A HARD ONE TO STOP. SO, , , JUST YOU GUYS, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JUST ASK IT. , BUT IN, OKAY. SO DO YOU KNOW THE WILDCAT PROGRAM? YES. SHE HAD MENTIONED IT WAS MOSTLY BABYSITTING. MM-HMM. , THAT PROGRAM IS BASICALLY JUST A SAFE PLACE FOR THE KIDS. WITHOUT THE, UM, NONPROFITS, THERE WOULDN'T REALLY BE MUCH, THERE'D BE NOTHING THERE. AND BECAUSE THE, THE MAYORS, UH, MIMI AND SEL STARTED, UH, THE WILD CAP PROGRAM PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO OR SO MM-HMM. . AND, UM, I WAS, UH, I KNOW THEM FROM OTHER PLACES, AND SO I SAT IN ON THEIR FIRST MEETING, UH, AND IT, THAT'S ALL IT WAS, IS TO, THEY JUST PAID TO BASICALLY STAFF FROM SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING UNTIL, UM, SCHOOL STARTED, AND THEN FROM WHEN SCHOOL LET OUT UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING IN ORDER FOR THE KIDS TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO GO FOR, BASICALLY FOR [03:05:01] WORKING PARENTS. UM, AND IT, IT WAS, IT'S JUST NOTHING BUT BABYSITTING. NOW, MIMI AND BASO WANTED TO HAVE IT BE MUCH MORE, SO WHAT'S HAPPENED NOW IS THAT THESE NOT-FOR-PROFITS ARE STARTING TO COME IN AND PROVIDE SOME SUBS SUBSTANTIVE PROGRAMS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, USE UP THE TIME. NOT THE BIKING. THE BIKING IS NOT PART OF IT. RIGHT. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, ELISE AND I CAN'T, AND I THINK, YES, I THINK GARDENS FOR HUMANITY. YES. YES. YEAH. I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY PARTICIPATE IN THAT. SO, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ALMI HAD ENVISIONED THAT WAY OF PARTICIPATION. AND I THINK THEY HAD THOUGHT IT WOULD KIND OF TAKE ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN, AND THAT THE, UM, TEACHERS THAT THEY HIRED TO, UH, PROVIDE THE SUPERVISION WOULD ACTUALLY PICK UP THE PROGRAMMING. BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND IT WAS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR, UH, THEM TO EVEN HAVE TEACHERS AVAILABLE. IN FACT, THE, UM, THE PROGRAM WAS VERY CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE AND MIMI AMBASSADORS ARE ACTUALLY COMING IN AND PROVIDING CHAPERONE SERVICES, UH, A LOT. BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT IT IN A LONG TIME, BUT I THINK THAT PART OF IT, HOPEFULLY IS, I THINK THEY ENDED UP PILOT, ACTUALLY IT WAS THE GAL FROM ACF, THE FORMER, REMEMBER THAT AT THE, UH, THE YOUNG WOMAN WHO WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT OH. PRIOR TO BRENDA. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU, I KNOW I CAN, I CAN FACE HER. I MEAN, I CAN SEE HER FACE, BUT I CAN'T COME UP WITH A NAME. I THINK, I THINK SHE ENDED UP GOING TO WORK FOR THEM PART-TIME. GOOD FOR, SHE'S GOOD TO MANAGE THAT WELL, TO, TO, TO GET THE THING OFF THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GIVE IT SOME, UM, BECAUSE THE TEACHERS THAT WERE COMING AND GOING, IT JUST LIKE HAD NO ORGANIZATION, IT HAD NO STABILITY. THAT'S WHAT, SO THEY, I THINK THEY HIRED HER TO GET THE THINGS, SOME STABILITY TO COME IN AND, AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, GET SOME PROGRAMMING GOING AND, AND PROVIDE IT, PROVIDE THE, UH, THE PROGRAM, THE BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM WAS SOME, UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE, THAT TEACHERS WERE GONNA SHOW UP AND I MEAN IT MM-HMM. , IT WAS VERY, IT WAS, IT WAS A ROUGH START, BUT THEY DID IT. I MEAN, NOW THE THINGS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GOT, YEAH. THEY COULD TRACTION. I THEY COULD GET MORE THOUGH. YEAH. WELL, I THINK SO. BUT YOU KNOW, THESE NONPROFITS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO STEP UP AND PROVIDE THAT MM-HMM. , HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP. OKAY. COME IN. ABSOLUTELY. HEY, RICHARD, HOW ARE YOU? HELLO, HOW ARE YOU STEPHANIE? GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M WELL. HELLO. MORNING. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERISM. I KNOW WELL, DID, OUR FRIEND DID . . YEAH. SO WHAT ARE YOU UP TO THESE DAYS HERE? YOU, YOU KIND OF CHANGED YOUR PROGRAMMING A LITTLE BIT? WE DID. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, POST COVID, EVERYTHING CHANGES. SO, UM, WE DISCOVERED THAT ONCE THE SCHOOLS GOT ENGAGED AGAIN, THAT THEY WERE FAVORING AFTER SCHOOL CLUBS. AND SO WE'RE NOT SENDING TEACHERS INTO CLASSROOMS AS WE DID PREVIOUSLY. AND SCHOOL GARDENS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF EXTRACURRICULAR, BUT, UH, OUR ART PROGRAM WAS KIND OF ARTISTS IN THE CLASSROOM, BUT NOW WE'RE DOING, UM, THE SAME THING, BUT AS AFTER SCHOOL CLUBS. SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING, UM, THAT MOST OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE VERDE VALLEY ARE OFFERING AFTER SCHOOL CLUBS, UM, SOME UNDER THE, UH, 21ST CENTURY GRANT TO KIND OF GET KIDS CAUGHT UP. MM-HMM. . UM, BUT WEST SEDONA SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY STARTED LAST YEAR WITH A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ENABLE WORKING PARENTS TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN STAY LATER IN THE DAY. AND THEY WANTED IT TO BE A MEANINGFUL ACTIVITY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, ENRICH THE CURRICULA THAT THEY NORMALLY OFFER. SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A GARDEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS, AND, UM, WE'RE JUST SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF TIME TO MEET THE DEMANDS THAT THEY REQUESTED. AND IT'S A, IT'S A LOVELY PROGRAM. IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT FROM HAVING AN ARTIST IN THE CLASSROOM WHERE YOU HAVE THE SAME POPULATION OF CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, WEEK AFTER WEEK. AND HERE AT THIS CLUB, THE CHILDREN CAN OPT INTO WHATEVER ACTIVITY THEY WANT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A VARIETY OF KIDS, UM, DURING THE COURSE OF THE [03:10:01] SCHOOL YEAR, NOT JUST A, A SET NUMBER. AND, UM, IT'S WORKING REALLY WELL. THEY LOVE THE ART AND THEY LOVE THE GARDEN. SO, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE QUALIFIED THAT WE CAN PROVIDE QUALIFIED TEACHERS FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES. WHAT TYPE OF IMPACTS ARE YOU SEEING AND OUTCOMES? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE, UM, THE GARDEN IS FLOURISHING. THAT'S A VERY VISIBLE . UM, THAT'S VERY VISIBLE. UM, IMPACT STATEMENT. AND THEN THE ARTWORK THAT THE KIDS ARE DOING. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN KIDS DO THINGS, YOU KIND OF SEE FROM WHAT THEY DO, HOW THEY'RE RE RELATING TO IT. AND, AND I'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, I VISITED THE CLASSES AND I SEE THE KIDS HIGHLY ENGAGED AND HAPPY. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PARENTS COME TO PICK THEIR KIDS UP EARLY AND THE KIDS SAYS, NO, NO, NO, I WANNA STAY. UM, I'M NOT DONE YET. SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THAT'S THE KIND OF FEEDBACK. IT'S KIND OF ANECDOTAL, BUT, UM, THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB, UM, DEPUTY CRI COLEY, UH, WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, SAYS YOU GUYS GOTTA COME BACK, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE, WE'RE OFFERING, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNIQUE. AND WE HAVE A VARIETY OF ARTISTS THAT, THAT COME. IT'S NOT JUST ONE ARTIST. THEY'RE DIFFERENT MEDIA. SO THE KIDS GET A VARIETY OF, UH, TEACHING ARTISTS, UM, IN THE PROGRAM. AND, AND THEN OUR SCHOOL, UM, OUR SCHOOL GARDEN TEACHER ALWAYS HAS ACTIVITIES. AND THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN YOU GET YOUR, WHEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO GET DIRTY AND YOU'RE A LITTLE KID, , YOU LOVE THAT. AND THEY, THEY CAN GET THEIR HANDS DIRTY IN THIS, IN THE GARDEN, AND THEY CAN DO THINGS. UM, IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH KIDS MY WHOLE LIFE AND, UM, THE LAST YEARS THAT I, YOU KNOW, WAS PAID TO WORK WITH KIDS, UM, THE DIGITAL AGE WAS UPON US. AND IT SEEMS THAT, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, THE KIDS WERE DOING CLASSES REMOTELY, UM, VIA ZOOM. SO THE, THEIR RELATIONSHIP WAS THEMSELVES IN THE COMPUTER AND NOT REALLY LIVING PEOPLE. AND THEY MISS THEIR PEERS AND THEY MISS THE SUPPORTIVE CONTEXT OF TEACHERS THERE. AND SO WHAT'S REALLY NICE IS TO GET THEM AWAY FROM THE SCREEN AND DOING THINGS THAT ARE MORE CREATIVE AND HANDS ON. AND, AND ART AND GARDENS TEND TO BE VERY SOCIAL. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY IN A CHAIR ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN MOVE AROUND, THEY CAN INTERACT. HOW, HOW OFTEN PER WEEK? WELL, WE, UH, HAVE USUALLY TWO DAYS A WEEK. WE'RE THERE, UM, OUR ARTISTS ARE THERE ONE DAY A WEEK, AND OUR GARDEN TEACHERS, THEY'RE ONE DAY A WEEK, BUT SOMETIMES WE INCREASE ACCORDING TO THE DEMAND, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, THEY WANT, I THINK OUR GARDEN TEACHER WAS OFTEN THERE TWICE A WEEK, AND MY NOTES SAY, YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT VARIES BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE, THEY CAN OPT INTO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ARRIVE IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER SCHOOL, AND THEY CAN CHOOSE THE ACTIVITY THAT THEY WANT TO DO. AND THE, THOSE TWO PROGRAMS SEEM TO BE PRETTY POPULAR, BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE CHECKING DIFFERENT THINGS OUT. SO, UM, LIKE IN THE GARDEN, WE COULD HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 10 KIDS TO 30 KIDS ON A GIVEN DAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT VARIES A LITTLE BIT. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . BUT THEN OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, OF A SCHOOL YEAR, WE SEE THE SAME KIDS OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITHIN THE PROGRAM. SO IN THE GARDEN, ARE THEY GROWING WHAT? VEGETABLES OR, UM, VEGETABLES AND, AND ALSO FLOWERS FOR POLLINATORS. AND, AND IT ISN'T JUST THE GROWING OF IT, IT'S THE PREPARATION OF THE SOIL, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE, STARTING SEEDS. SO IT'S THE WHOLE LIFE CYCLE OF A PLANT. THEN DO THEY GET TO TAKE, WHAT'S THAT? DO THEY GET TO TAKE WHAT THEIR VEGETABLES IS? OH YEAH, THEY DO. OKAY. MM-HMM. , THEY MOSTLY, THE, THE FALL WINTER GARDEN IS MOSTLY LIKE, UH, GREENS AND, YOU KNOW, COOL WEATHER CROPS. AND THEN, UM, IN THE SPRING WE, THEY START THE, UM, [03:15:01] THE WARM WEATHER CROPS. AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO EXTEND THE SCHOOL YEAR INTO THE SUMMER BECAUSE THAT'S OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, REAL GROWING TIME. BUT IT, IT'S TOUGH FOR SCHOOLS SOMETIMES TO OPEN THEIR GATES AND LET PEOPLE IN. BUT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, LIKE AT THE SCIENCE VORTEX, WHICH IS A, A NONPROFIT IN, UM, COTTONWOOD, AND THEY SERVE CHILDREN THROUGHOUT THE VERDE VALLEY. SO, UM, WE DO THAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE EXPANDING THE GRANT THAT I WROTE FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA STRICTLY FOCUSES ON WEST SEDONA SCHOOL. UM, AND THAT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF A BIGGER PICTURE. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH TEENS, UM, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, OAK CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, COTTONWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND DR. DANIEL BRIGHT AND THE SCIENCE VORTEX. WE HAVE A CLUB THERE. UM, BUT OF COURSE, WE LEARNED LAST YEAR WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT WE CHANGED IN THIS GRANT FROM WHAT WE WROTE LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE'RE STRICTLY FOCUSED ON WEST SEDONA SCHOOL. AND SINCE WE WROTE THE GRANT, WE WERE CONTACTED BY SEDONA CHARTER SCHOOL. AND THEY, THEY WANT A GARDEN TOO, BUT, UH, BUT WE'LL, THAT'LL HAVE TO COME OUT OF DIFFERENT FUNDS CUZ UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE KIND OF, UM, EARMARKED FOR ONE SPECIFIC PROGRAM. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US, RICHARD? NO, JUST MY GRATITUDE. . NO, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. CITY OF SEDONA HAS BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE AND I KNOW WE'RE JUST A LITTLE DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS US CUZ WE'RE A SMALL NONPROFIT AND OUR PROGRAMS ARE STRICTLY BASED ON GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE. AND FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A BROAD BASE OF, UM, FUNDERS FROM THE GRANT COMMUNITY AND, UM, AND A AND A AND A GOOD COOPERATIVE GRANT WRITER, I THINK TOO. . YEAH. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S MY EVERYTHING. THAT'S MY ENCORE, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I WAS A TEACHER FOR, UM, ALMOST 40 YEARS AND MY, AND, UM, IT'S HARD TO LEAVE TEACHING. AND SO, UM, WHEN I DISCOVERED HOW MUCH I COULD DO WITH NONPROFITS, I STARTED GETTING INVOLVED AND THEN, UM, SO I ENJOY IT. UM, IT, IT KEEPS ME, UM, ENGAGED WITH EDUCATION IN A KIND OF A DIFFERENT WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, RICHARD. YEAH, THANK YOU. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE SEEING YOU. I KNOW. AM I DONE FACE TO FACE? IT'S LIKE A NICE DAY OUT THERE. OH, IT DOES. UNFORTUNATELY. NOT WINDY OR ANYTHING YESTERDAY. THE WIND REALLY SURPRISED ME IN THE AFTERNOON. IT JUST KIND OF ONE O'CLOCK WENT WHAM, DIDN'T IT? YEAH. FORTUNATELY I GOT MY, I DID BEFORE THAT. HOW ARE YOUR PONIES DOING? I WAS WONDERING. GREAT. YOU STILL IN THE SAME GUYS? YES, I DO. THAT'S GREAT. I WAS, I FIGURED THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I PLANNED IT. SO HE AND I WOULD GO TO THE GRAVE TOGETHER. OKAY. I WAS GONNA SAY, THEY'RE KIND OF MIDDLE-AGED THOUGH, AREN'T THEY? NO, THEY'RE NOT. ZACH'S GONNA BE 10. OH, OH, OKAY. 16. BUT THAT'S STILL, THAT'S STILL, THAT'S MIDDLE-AGED. WELL, 16 IS MIDDLE-AGED. YEAH, I KNOW. DEAN RISE. THAT'S THE BEST THING ABOUT BEING HERE. WHO IS IT? ARE YOU, IS CELEB STILL? ARE YOU STILL RIGHT? I'M STILL ON CELEB. I MEAN, HE STILL TRIES TO FIND THE LOWEST POSSIBLE LIMB OR THE . MY LAST PAIR OF PANTS HAS LIKE FIVE RIPPED WHAT? AND ONE Z SHAPED OR W SHAPED. OH, A WHOLE LEG. OH ONE. THAT'S CELEB. AND THEN ANOTHER TIME HE RAN. OH, YOU TOLD ME. I CAN'T SEE THAT ON MY FACE. I LOVE HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HE'LL GET, HE'LL GET ME BACK IF I SHOULD WANDER OFF FOR SOME REASON BY ACCIDENT. NO. IS THIS, HE MENTIONED THIS IS YOUR HORSES OWN OR? WE HAVE A FRIEND WITH HORSES. MUTUAL FRIEND. A MUTUAL FRIEND. I SEE. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I SAW IT. LET ME, IT'S A HIGHLIGHT FOR ME. I MEAN, I LIKED HIKING, BUT BOY, I SURE LOVE RIDING. I'M JUST SORRY I WAITED SO MANY YEARS. OH, WELL THANK YOU. YOU YEAH. DO IT WHILE YOU CAN. YOU KNOW ? ABSOLUTELY. [03:20:01] YES. OKAY. YOU READY FOR LAURIE? IS LAURIE HERE? SHE'S PUTTING IN EYE DROPS. OH, . IT'S STILL EARLY. YEAH. HERE'S, TAKE YOUR TIME. WE'RE, WE'RE STILL EARLY. HEY LAURIE, HOW ARE YOU? HELLO THERE. MORNING. HOW ARE YOU GUYS? WELL, AND YOURSELF? . I JUST SPENT THE LAST TWO WEEKS CLEARING OUT MY MOTHER'S HOUSE IN INDIANA. OH MY GOSH. I'M EXHAUSTED. . DID SHE PASS OR? NO, MY DAD PASSED LAST YEAR AND MY MOTHER'S OUT HERE IN ARIZONA WITH US NOW. OH, GOOD. OKAY. SO IT WAS JUST TIME TO LIKE, SHE WAS NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO GO BACK. YEAH. YOU KNOW, TIME TO GET THE HOUSE SOLD. AND SHE'S 90, SHE'S ALMOST 98. OH, GOODNESS. SO, YEAH. GOOD FOR HER. SO, BUT IT WAS HARD. MY CHILDHOOD HOME. I KNOW HERE IN THERE THEY WERE IN THERE FOR 60 YEARS. OH. LOT OF STUFF. IT WASN'T AS BAD AS YOU THINK THAT IT, THAT IT, THAT IT SOUNDS BEEN, BUT IT WAS STILL BAD. . SO WE REALLY DID, WE LITERALLY JUST GOT BACK ON SUNDAY AND THEN LA YESTERDAY HAD TO DRIVE THE RENTAL VAN THAT WE HAD DOWN, DROP THAT STUFF OFF AT MY, CAUSE MY SISTER AND I ARE SORT OF SHARING HER MM-HMM. . SHE COMES BACK AND FORTH. SHE'S DOING AMAZING. SHE NEEDS NO REAL CARE. UM, SHE JUST, YOU KNOW, NEEDS A PLACE TO LIVE. YEAH. SO, AND WE DON'T WANT HER TO BE ALONE, SO WE SHARE HER. WELL, YOU'RE FORTUNATE WE BE ABLE TO HAVE HER CLOSE. SO, BUT ANYWAY, OTHERWISE EVERYTHING IS FINE. GREAT. UM, HOW'S THE, UM, HOW'S THE FESTIVAL GOING THESE YEARS? I MEAN, YOU'VE, UM, ARE YOU STILL, WE KIND OF RUNNING IT THE SAME AS WE'VE NOT AND YEP. IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH, UM, BEEN THE SAME AS AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. UM, WE CANCELED IN 2020. YEAH. UM, WE RECOVERED NICELY IN 2021. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD SHOWING AND A LOT OF THE ENTHUSIASM FROM THE ARTISTS MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THAT WHOLE THING IS CHANGING WITH ARTISTS SORT OF RETIRING OUT. IT, YOU KNOW, IT IS A, IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC THING THAT THESE PEOPLE DO THAT THEY TOUR. RIGHT. AND DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT ART SHOWS. OH. WHAT DO YOU SEE? WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER TO OUR REVIEW PANEL. AND WOULD YOU, YOU SHARE WITH HIM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW EACH OTHER, BUT IF YOU'D SHARE WITH HIM, UM, WHY YOUR FESTIVAL IS DIFFERENT, UM, AND, UH, JUST ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT. SURE. ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR NOTES FROM 1998 OR 2000, YOU'LL FIND THAT I'M A LIFETIME BOARD MEMBER OF THE SEDONA ARTS FESTIVAL. IT, IT'S ALL RIGHT. . WOW. LIFETIME. LIFETIME. WELL, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? UM, WE'RE WELCOME. WE'RE READY TO HAVE YOU BACK. NO, NO, NO, NO. IT WAS, IT WAS AN HONOR. IT WAS, OH, IT WAS AN HONORARY DAY. SEVERAL YEARS. AND THEN WHEN I LEFT THEY GAVE ME A LIFETIME AWARD OR SOMETHING. WHO WAS THE ED THEN? UM, BARBARA ANTONS. BARBARA ANTONS. WOW. THAT WAS THE VERY BEGINNING. YEAH. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. WOW. SO HAS THE FESTIVAL CHANGED SINCE ED WAS ABOARD? NO. . NO. IT'S GOTTEN BIGGER THAT WE GO EVERY YEAR. YEAH. YEAH. SO, AND YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN SURPRISED AT, CUZ IT IS, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME PROCESS. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, WE HAVE SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND A HUNDRED ARTISTS EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN, A HUNDRED TWENTY SIX SPACES. BUT THAT USUALLY EQUATES TO A HUNDRED AND 105, 110 ARTISTS. CUZ SOME PEOPLE TAKE UP TWO SPACES. MM-HMM. . SO, BUT WHAT WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IS CHANGE UP THE MUSIC AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I'VE GOT A BOARD MEMBER WHO'S REALLY INTO THE MUSIC SCENE. I THINK THE REASON HE CAME ON BOARD WAS BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE COULD ADD THAT COMPONENT TO THE FESTIVAL. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 14 YEARS NOW. SO I HAVE TO LET BOARD MEMBERS COME IN AND HAVE THEIR IDEAS AND LET THEM EXECUTE THEM. MM-HMM. , AND THEN GO, YEAH, I'VE ALREADY TRIED THAT . BUT YOU DON'T WANNA SAY NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. RIGHT. SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT AT THE ARTS FESTIVAL TO SIT AND LISTEN TO MUSIC. THAT'S NOT WHY THEY'RE THERE. WHICH IS WHY I WENT TO A MUCH SMALLER LITTLE THING. PEOPLE DID MISS THE MUSIC WHEN, BECAUSE MM-HMM. INITIALLY I JUST CUT IT OUT COMPLETELY AND THEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH NO, WE MISS THE MUSIC. SURE. BUT IT'S BACKGROUND. IT'S NOT, THEY DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO IT, TO THE ARTIST'S, WHY THEY EAT. SO WITH THAT SAID, AFTER THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS OF TRYING THIS, OH, WE'RE GONNA BRING IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC AND DIFFERENT GROUPS, DIFFERENT SIZES, BLAH, BLAH. WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE SMALL FORMAT THAT I HAD LANDED ON MM-HMM. SEVEN YEARS AGO, [03:25:01] . SO, UM, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, UH, I'VE BEEN EXCITED THAT THE INTEREST FOR THE ARTIST IS STILL THERE BECAUSE FOR A WHILE WE WERE STRUGGLING TO GET IT ENOUGH QUALITY APPLICATIONS TO, WE DON'T WANNA TURN IT INTO A CRAFT SHOW. RIGHT. AND I GO TO A LOT OF SHOWS AND THEY HAVE, THERE'S A SOAP VENDOR NEXT TO A FINE ARTIST AND THEY DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. THE ARTISTS DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. MM-HMM. , WE HAVE SOME OF THAT. IT'S IN A SEPARATE AREA. UM, BUT THE, THE PRESCOTT FINE ART AND WINE SHOW, I WOULD SAY HAD THREE FINE ARTISTS OVER THERE. SO WHAT WE GET FROM THE ARTISTS THAT DO COME IS THEY'RE IMPRESSED BY THE QUALITY OF THE WORK THAT'S ON THE FIELD. THAT'S WHAT THEY MOST NOTICE. AND HOW WE TAKE CARE OF STILL JURIED, STILL JURIED MM-HMM. . YEP. JUD AHEAD OF TIME. JURIED ON THE FIELD. MM-HMM. . SO WE WERE COVERED NICELY AFTER 2020. WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT WE DID AS WELL AS WE DID. AND YEAH, THINGS ARE JUST PRETTY MUCH GOOD. I SAY STATUS QUO BECAUSE STATUS QUO IS WHAT WORKS. MM-HMM. , WE TRIED IT AT, WE ADD OTHER THINGS. WE ACTUALLY ADDED ON THE, THE VERDE VALLEY POTTERS. UH, THEN RODDY, IF ANYBODY HAS HEARD OF HIM, HE'S, HE'S REALLY COME UP IN THE WORLD IN THE LAST, SO WE ADDED HIS FOLKS LAST YEAR AND PROMOTED HIS NOVEMBER SHOW, WHICH WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL. SO THEY ARE JOINING US AGAIN THIS YEAR. THEY'RE A REALLY NICE EDITION. NEVER BEEN RAINED OUT ONE TIME IN 13, 14 YEARS. HAVE I BEEN WOW. ONE TIME. WOW. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY BACK IN YOUR DAY, LIKE THEY LOOKED AT THE FARMER'S ALMANAC, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , LIKE THEY, THAT'S HOW THEY PICKED THE THING. SO YEAH. WE HAD ONE DAY OF THE TWO. YEAH. IN MY 14 YEARS THAT WE WERE RIGHT. THE FIRST ONE OR TWO YEARS IT WAS CALLED A SEDONA APPLE FESTIVAL. APPLE FESTIVAL. YES. I HAVE ALL THE HISTORY. I KNOW . IT'S LIKE ON ME . THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. YES. JUST, JUST OUT OF JUST IDLE CURIOSITY, WHAT DO YOU TELL THE, UH, SOAP MAKERS AND BEAD STRINGERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO APPLY TO COMMENT? YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. WELL, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN AREA FOR THEM. SO WE HAVE 13 BOOTHS THAT ARE IN A SEPARATE SPACE AWAY FROM THE ARTIST. AND ONCE THOSE 13 SPACES ARE FULL, WE'RE DONE. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL WE INCLUDE. AND IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF ARTS AND CRAFT, LIKE JUST HAD A GAB REACH OUT TO ME. OH, I DO MCAY AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I OFTEN TELL THEM WE'RE NOT A CRAFT SHOW, SO OKAY. YOU CAN YEAH. SO THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW IN ADVANCE. IT'S, IT'S, AND IT'S ALL ON OUR PROSPECTUS ONLINE. I SEE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THERE ARE SOME CRAFTERS THOUGH, THAT ARE HIGHER END. THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE'VE NEVER HAD CRAFTERS. IT'S JUST AT A PARTICULAR LEVEL THAT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CRAFT VERSUS VINYL. THERE WAS A WOMAN WHO USED DRIED WHEAT ONE YEAR TO CRAFT SOME REALLY COOL STUFF. AND WE INCLUDED THAT. I KNOW. YEAH. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. YEAH. THAT WAS, IT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL. SO I'LL OFTEN SAY TO WHAT IF SOMEBODY REACHES OUT TO ME DIRECTLY, I'LL JUST SAY, SEND ME SOME IMAGES. YEAH. AND I'LL SAVE YOU THE $35 TO APPLY BY LOOKING AT YOUR IMAGES. MM-HMM. . AND THEY'RE, I JUST DON'T, JUST DON'T TAKE THEIR MONEY FALSELY WITH FALSE HOPE . SO YOU'RE NOT GLUTEN FREE. , WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD GLUTEN FREE VENDORS AT OUR IN . IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD? WELL, I, I HAD ONE, I THINK YOU LISTED A GOAL THAT THE EVENT WAS TO BECOME FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE. HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO REACHING THAT GOAL? UM, I MEAN, WE, WE CERT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF EBBS AND FLOWS IN IT. RIGHT? SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON IF YOU HAVE A YEAR WHERE YOU'RE RAINED OUT, OR IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION LIKE 2020 WHERE YOU JUST HAVE TO CANCEL, UM, THEN THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY IT, IT GOES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT DOES VARY. UH, THE CITY SUPPORT, THE SUPPORT FROM THE ARIZONA COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY, UM, SUPPORTIVE THIS, THIS LAST YEAR. UM, THAT, THAT BASE LETS US KNOW THAT WE CAN PUT THE FESTIVAL ON REGARDLESS. SO. WELL, YOUR FINANCIALS LOOK YES. MUCH BETTER THAN I'VE SEEN THEM SINCE THEY STARTED THIS FEW YEARS AGO. WELL, I THINK COVID, EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK EVERYBODY DOWN, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY IT'S BEEN A BIG BOOM AFTERWARDS MM-HMM. . IT REALLY, IT REALLY HAS. SO. WELL YOU DO A GREAT JOB, LAURIE. WE APPRECI YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M STILL AT IT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS. YEAH, I KNOW . I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE DOING IT 15 YEARS LATER, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A [03:30:01] NICE COMBINATION BETWEEN, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW TOO, I ALSO AM WITH THE SIT ON FILM FESTIVAL. YEAH. SO I, THEY'RE WITH THEM YEAR ROUND, BUT FILM FESTIVAL, WHEN IT'S SO INTENSE IS IN FEBRUARY AND THIS IS IN OCTOBER. SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD BALANCE. MM-HMM. . WELL LISTEN, SPEAKING OF THAT, DO YOU HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN? A SUCCESS? OH, FOR ME. YEAH. I KNOW. THAT'S SCARY, ISN'T IT? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'LL DO. . NO WAY. WHO CAN LIVE WITHOUT, YEAH. UM, NO. I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T SEE MYSELF GOING ANYWHERE FOR THE NEXT, AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. AND WHO AND PAT I KNOW WELL, AND PAT HAS MADE ME PROMISE THAT CUZ I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER THAN PAT. OH. SO HE HAS MADE ME PROMISE THAT I CAN'T LEAVE UNTIL HE LEAVES, WHICH PUTS ME IN A POSITION OF BEING ON FIVE YEARS LONGER THAN I WANT TO. YEAH. WELL, SO WHAT ABOUT THE, BUT THE ARTS FESTIVAL SAY DITTO. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? NO, THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT. OH. YOU KNOW, STICK IT ON THE BOARD. YEAH. I'LL STICK IT ON THE BOARD. ALRIGHTY. I'LL TRY. I CAN, I DIDN'T GET ANY TRAINING, SO. OKAY. I, I HAD ONE DAY WITH A PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THEN SHE, SHE HAD SOME, UH, ISSUE WITH THE BOARD AND JUST SAID, SORRY TO DO THIS TO LORI, BUT I DON'T WANT ANYTHING MORE TO DO WITH THIS. OH. SO THEN THEY GOT REALLY LUCKY . OH, THANK YOU. AND REMAINED. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I'M, WE'RE DONE HONEY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. THAT WAS QUICK AND EASY. THANKS SO MUCH. NICE. YOU, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET. FREQUENT FLYER. BYE-BYE. BN. OKAY. IS BRYNN HERE? IS SHE COMING? SHE IS. OKAY. YEAH. BRI, IF SHE WANTS TO COME IN. ARE YOU GUYS READY? YEAH. TO THE RESTAURANT. OH, HE JUST WENT TO THE RESTROOM. OH, OKAY. DISAPPEAR. JUMPED IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM THERE AND FOUND MEETING. REALLY? MM-HMM. . EVEN THOUGH WE, IT ALL, YOU KNOW IT, CONFERENCE ROOM TO OPEN IT AND SOMEBODY SCREAM AND A MEETING. WHAT WAS THE NEW VENUE THAT, UM, KEN AND THE ROCKS WAS TALKING ABOUT? CHURCH. THE CREATIVE LIFE CENTER. WHERE IS THAT? THAT IS UP BEVERLY HILL ROAD. ISN'T THAT FOR SALE? FOR SALE? I THINK IT'S BEEN, IT'S UM, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH. HE BOUGHT IT AND, BUT EVERYTHING HE HAS IS UP FOR SALE, BUT, BUT HE NEVER SELLS, SO. HMM. I MEAN IT'S EIGHT BY DAY . YEAH. CY IS MY NEIGHBOR FOR A LITTLE WHILE. REALLY? HE AND SONYA LIVED RIGHT NEXT DOOR. YEAH. FOR ABOUT A YEAR. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW. I ONLY SAW SARAH ONCE WHEN HE FIRST MOVED IN AND I WENT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND HE JUST GRUNTED AT ME AND WAS LIKE, WHY KNOW? OKAY. SONYA WAS A LITTLE FRIENDLIER. . THAT'S WHAT SHE GOT. IT'S FRENCH CANADIANS. NEVER TELL OTHER FRENCH CANADIANS. HIS KIDS WERE ODD THOUGH. ODD. MM-HMM. . I WENT THEY, HOW OLD WERE THEY? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE HAD KIDS. UM, LOOKED LIKE LATE TEENS, EARLY TWENTIES. THE ONE WALKED AWAY FROM ME WHILE I WAS TALKING TO 'EM. YOU'RE KIDDING. AND THEN THE TWO YOUNGER ONES, THEY LOOKED LIKE TWINS WHEN I STARTED TALKING TO 'EM. THEY GOT SO FLUSTERED, THEY CRASHED INTO EACH OTHER AND THE TURN AND RAN BACK IN THE HOUSE. I WAS JUST SAYING HELLO. I WAS PETTING THEIR CAT ON THE DRIVEWAY AND HI. THEY WERE LIKE WOO AND RAN IN THE HOUSE. OKAY. NOBODY HAD THAT KIND EFFECT ON CHRISTY . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY. I CAN USE THAT LOOK, BUT I WASN'T USING IT AT THE MOMENT. . THAT'S TRUE. . YEAH. MY MOM USED ME TO SCARE KIDS INTO, UH, BEHAVING. HOW'S YOUR MOM DOING? SHE'S DOING GOOD. SHE SPENT YOU AND YOUR SISTER SORT OF TAKE TURNS. DON'T YEAH, MY SISTER'S THERE NOW. THAT'S A HUGE TIME COMMITMENT. IT IS HUGE. BUT YEAH, SHE WAS LIKE, THAT MEAN, LADIES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO SIT WITH HER IF YOU DON'T BEHAVE. AND I WAS MEAN. KATIE . HI. HI. OKAY. [03:35:05] HEY BRIAN. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING WELL. GOOD. IS IT A NICE DAY OUT THERE, ? YEAH. I THINK IT'S GONNA GET REALLY WARM TODAY THOUGH. . YEAH. IT'S GETTING TO THAT TIME OF YEAR. IT IS, IT IS. THE SWITCH HAS BEEN FLIPPED. YEAH. NOT QUITE AS MUCH AS IT WILL BE, BUT THAT'S TRUE. IT'S GETTING THERE. REAFF, REAFF. OH, UM, PANEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIN? HI. HI. HI. HI. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US AS, AS TO HOW THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S GONE ON IN THE PAST OR YEAH. MORE, MORE OF THE WONDERFUL SAME OR HOW ARE THE KIDS DOING? I KNOW YOU'RE STILL SO HIGHLY INTEGRATED IN THE SCHOOLS. WELL I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS LAST SEASON YEAH. THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BECOME, BECOME PART OF THE CURRICULUM. . YEAH. WE WE BASICALLY ALMOST HAVE, YEAH. IT'S BEEN GOING REALLY WELL. I MEAN IT'S, WE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, A LOT OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO AFTER THE SCHOOL HOURS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY REALLY TEACH THE TO THE, UM, UH, CURRICULUM, UH, MOSTLY. BUT WE, WE ARE ABLE TO GET IN AND, UM, I'VE JUST MET WITH DENNY AND, AND HE, I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WITH A NEW, UM, SUPERINTENDENT, UM, AND PRINCIPAL. UM, THEY HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE NEW PRINCIPAL FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL IN JUNIOR HIGH IS GOING TO TAKE, TAKE OVER, UH, THE 1ST OF JULY. SO I'M GONNA GO IMMEDIATELY IN AND TALK TO HER. CAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH DENNY. DENNY AND I HAVE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATED ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, WE FOUND THIS HERE. WE DID DO THE ONE CONCERT. WE HAVEN'T YET INTEGRATED ALL THE KIDS INTO THE AUDITORIUM FOR OUR CONCERT BECAUSE THERE IS STILL THAT LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN I THINK WITH COVID. SO THIS NEXT YEAR, I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK TO GET ALL THE SCHOOLS TO COME INTO THE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL. CUZ THE, YOU KNOW, JUST BEFORE COVID WE HAD 900 KIDS IN THAT, IN THAT ATTENDING THE CONCERT THAT WE DID THERE, WHICH WAS TERRIFIC. WE, WE HAD TO HAVE KIDS ON THE, ON THE STAGE BECAUSE , IT DOESN'T FIT THAT MANY, MANY KIDS. WE HAD KIDS ON THE STAGE. WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, IT, IT WAS A GREAT SCENARIO AND IT WAS ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS GREAT. MM-HMM. THIS YEAR WE DID SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WHICH WAS REALLY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF. WE DID, WE, WHAT WE DID IS INVITE, UH, UH, UH, AND IT ENDED UP BEING ABOUT 50 50 KIDS AND THEIR PARENTS THAT CAME, UM, TO AN EVENT WHERE WE ACTUALLY DID A REHEARSAL FOR THE KIDS, WHICH WAS A REALLY NICE WAY FOR THE ARTISTS TO GIVE THE KIDS TWO I TWO THINGS. THEY WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TALK TO THE KIDS, BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY A ABLE TO SHOW THEM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A GROUP OF ARTISTS GET, ACTUALLY GET INTO A SITUATION AND THEY HAVE TO PLAY WITH EACH OTHER. AND A LOT OF THEM, MAYBE SOME OF THEM HAVE NEVER PLAYED TOGETHER. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT WE BRING IN ARE THE TOP IN THE WORLD. MM-HMM. . SO THEY'RE, THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PERFORMING. BUT WHAT IS EXCITING FOR THE KIDS IS TO SEE THEY DON'T HAVE A CONDUCTOR THERE. SO EACH ONE OF THE ARTISTS HAS TO, CONTRIBUTES TO HOW THE WHOLE THING HOLDS TOGETHER. AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL SCENARIO. WE ALSO INVITED THE PUBLIC FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN WE HAD THE KIDS COME IN THE BACK AND, AND ACTUALLY TALK TO THE ARTISTS. AND WE FED 'EM PIZZA, WHICH MADE THEM ALL VERY HAPPY. . UM, AND SO IT, IT, THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WE'D DONE IT BEFORE. AND I THINK WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS DOING THAT AGAIN BECAUSE THAT, THAT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOSER AN INTERACTION. AN INTERACTION. YEAH. THERE, YEARS AGO WE USED TO ACTUALLY DO, UM, LESSONS THAT THE, THE, THE, THE MUSICIANS WOULD COME IN AND DO LESSONS. YES. I REMEMBER THAT. AND WHAT, WHAT WE FOUND WAS TWO THINGS HAPPENED. WHAT ONE WAS THAT THE KIDS WEREN'T QUITE AT A STAGE WHERE THESE GUYS COULD ACTUALLY TEACH THEM. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE USED TO TEACHING, BUT THEY'RE USED TO TEACHING AT, AT COLLEGE LEVEL. MM-HMM. . AND THEY WERE GOOD. IT WAS GOOD. IT WORKED OUT ALL RIGHT. BUT, UM, IT WASN'T AS, AS PRODUCTIVE AS THIS WAS. THIS WAS PROBABLY MORE PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE THE KIDS ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE THEM PERFORM AND THEN THEY GOT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW THEY INTERACT AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO IT, IT, WE THINK IT WAS, IT'S A BETTER, IT'S A BETTER USE OF THE TIME FOR THE KIDS AND THE TIME FOR THE ARTISTS. CUZ THE ARTISTS WERE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AND NOW WE HAVE CHRISTINA AND COURTNEY WORKING WITH US, WITH ALL THE KIDS CUZ WE'RE [03:40:01] GIVING LESSONS ALL THE TIME. AND, AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING THE KIDS TO UP, YOU KNOW, TO THIS THING. AND ACTUALLY THEN WHEN THEY BRING THEM BACK OUT FOR THEIR LESSONS, TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE REHEARSAL. SO IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL. SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, WE HAD, AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I I I THINK YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN ONE PICTURE, BUT I'LL, I'M GONNA SEND THESE PICTURES AROUND FOR YOU. UM, THE ONE, THE TOP ONE IS THAT REHEARSAL, I GUESS WE CAN GO THIS WAY. THE TOP ONE IS THE REHEARSAL. AND THE NEXT TWO WERE THE ORCHESTRA THAT WE, I I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WERE HERE, UM, BEFORE, UH, BEFORE COVID, BUT BEFORE C O V, UM, THE, THE, THE STUDENTS, UM, MANY OF WHOM WERE ACTUALLY STUDENTS AT THE, UH, CHARTER SCHOOL HAD BEEN INVITED TO CARNEGIE HALL. AND THE DAY THAT THEY WERE TO FLY TO CARNEGIE HALL, IT SHUT DOWN. RIGHT. AND THEY COULDN'T GO. SO THIS YEAR I SAID TO COURTNEY AND CHRISTINA, CAN'T WE BRING THIS BACK? CAN'T WE BRING THAT ORCHESTRA BACK AND BRING SOME OF THE KIDS? BECAUSE THE KIDS STILL, A LOT OF THEM HAVE NOT GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL. THEY'RE STILL HERE. WHY CAN'T WE BRING THEM BACK AND, AND REINSTITUTE THIS, THIS ORCHESTRA? THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT BIGGER PHOTOGRAPH IS THEM ACTUALLY HAVING BROUGHT THEM BACK. IT, IT TOOK ME ABOUT HALF A YEAR. I WAS HOPING WE'D HAVE THIS STARTED IN OCTOBER, BUT WE DIDN'T. UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PULL IT TOGETHER BY JANUARY AND THEY HAD AN ACTUAL CONCERT IN MAY. UM, IT WAS A LIMITED SIZE OF PEOPLE THAT THEY INVITED. AND I THINK PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SO NEW, BUT IT WAS BRILLIANT. UM, IT, THEY, IT THEY DID AN ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT JOB. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS YEAR THOUGH IS, UM, CONTINUE THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE INVITED BACK TO CARNEGIE HALL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. UM, BUT TO HAVE THEM BE ABLE TO PERFORM TOGETHER IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR EDUCATION. UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GONNA START A JUNIOR ORCHESTRA WITH THE KIDS THAT HAVEN'T PLAYED SO MUCH SO THAT THEY GET, THEY GET THAT OPPORTUNITY. CUZ AS MUCH AS YOU LEARN FROM A LESSON, AN INDIVIDUAL LESSON, THERE'S ALSO SO MUCH TO BE LEARNED BY ACTUALLY COOPERATING AND BEING PART OF AN ORCHESTRA. MM-HMM. . SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, EXCITED ABOUT ACTUALLY INCREASING THAT. AND I'M, I'M, WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR GRANT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET THAT BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THEY WANTED TO DO IT FROM CHRISTINA AND COURTNEY UNTIL AFTER THIS CONCERT, WHICH WAS THE MIDDLE OF MAY. SO, UM, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T GET TO READ ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TOO. BRANDON, HOW DO YOU GET THE, THE WEEDS KIDS OVER HERE? DO YOU BUS THEM OVER OR? WELL, WHEN WE DO THE, WHEN WE DO THE, UM, ORCHESTRA, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. UM, BUS THEM OVER. YEAH. YEAH. WE BUS 'EM, WE BUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO. AND THAT'S, SO WE, WE'LL BE DOING THIS HERE. RIGHT NOW, THE LESSONS ARE HELD NOT, YOU KNOW, AFTER SCHOOL HOURS AND THE PARENTS ACTUALLY BRING THE KIDS TO THE LESSONS MM-HMM. . UM, AND THEN THE ORCHESTRA IS ACTUALLY DONE ON SATURDAY MORNING. IT'S SORT OF UNFORTUNATE RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAY THE SYSTEM AND THE SCHOOL IS SET UP, WE DON'T HAVE, WE CAN'T SLOT THAT INTO THE TIME OF THE SCHOOL'S, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL CURRICULUM. SO, UM, MOST OF THE PARENTS BRING THE KIDS AND WE PAY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY PAY FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING. WE HAVE. THE KIDS CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT TO BOTH THEIR LESSONS AND TO THE ORCHESTRA. UM, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THE FACT THAT THEY NEED TO BUY IN. THE PARENTS NEED TO BUY IN. IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. BUT WHEN THEY BUY IN, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET THEIR KIDS THERE AND MAKE SURE IT GOES THAN MM-HMM. AND THAT'S NOT ALL THE PARENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DO THAT SORT OF AS A, AS A, UM, AS A, UM, SORRY. AS A, UM, AS A AS, AS A, AS AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THEM THERE. MM-HMM. . BUT SO FAR IT'S, IT'S, IT IS WORKING REALLY WELL. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, UM, AND OF COURSE THIS YEAR WE ADDED, UH, UH, COOPERATING AND WORKING WITH A, A SIF, UH, TO, UM, BRING THE MOVIES IN THAT BEFORE OUR CONCERTS THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MUSIC. UM, AND THAT'S BEEN REALLY A GREAT DEAL OF FUN. UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD ATTENDANCE THERE. AND WE DON'T ASK FOR THE MONIES FOR THAT. WE ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE THE, THE MONIES THAT ARE MADE BY SIF GOES TO SIF FOR HAVING PUT THEM ON MM-HMM. . BUT WE FEEL THAT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN, YOU KNOW, GIVES SOMEBODY THEM A DIFFERENT CHANCE TO LOOK AT, AT [03:45:01] THE, YOU KNOW, MUSIC IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. SO, THANK YOU BRYNN VERY MUCH. YEAH. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL? THANK YOU. GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS. THANK YOU. WELL, I, I THANK YOU. AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, WE'RE BUILDING OUR AUDIENCE TOO BECAUSE WE WE'RE UP TO YOU ALMOST. WELL 300 PEOPLE PER, PER CONCERT. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS IS SORT OF AN INTERESTING THING. THE, OUR MARK, THE, OUR ARTISTIC DIRECTOR WHO DOES THESE CONCERTS ALL OVER THE WORLD, I MEAN, HE FLIES IN FROM NEW YORK TO DO WHAT HE DOES FOR US. BUT, UM, HE SAYS THAT OUR AUDIENCE IS BIGGER THAN ALMOST ALL THE AUDIENCE THAT HE PERFORMS FOR. UM, WHICH IS REALLY SORT OF A VERY INTERESTING THING. I MEAN, WE GET 300 PEOPLE, HE SAYS IT'S USUALLY 150 EVEN AT WIGMORE HALL IN LONDON. IT'S LIKE 150 AND WE GET 300 FOR A COMMUNITY OF SIX OF 9,000 PEOPLE. MM-HMM. , I'M IMPRESSED WITH OUR AUDIENCE, . I HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, COME OUT AND, AND BE THERE. AND SO, WELL THAT'S CUZ YOU DELIVER A WONDERFUL PRODUCT. . WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. UM, I WISH YOU LUCK WITH THIS. THIS IS A, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO, HOW YOU CAN KEEP ALL OF US STRAIGHT. . I WISH YOU LUCK WITH THAT, . THANKS SO MUCH, BRENDA. OH, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME AND THANK YOU. AND UM, I WILL SEE YOU WHEN I SEE YOU. BUT YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. TAKE CARE. YOU TOO. BYE-BYE. BYE BYE. ARE YOU GONNA GET LUNCH THIS AFTERNOON? YEAH, ACTUALLY, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE BREAKING PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW, SO. OH, GOOD. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. YEAH. THAT'S WHY YOU WANNA GET ME OUTTA HERE LUNCH. WE JUST WANNA BE FAIR WITH EVERYBODY AND KEEP NO, YOU DON'T WANNA, YEAH, WELL YOU DON'T WANNA GIVE SOMEBODY MORE TIME THAN SOMEBODY ELSE. THAT'S NOT FAIR. BUT WE WILL GIVE YOU A MUFFIN IF YOU WANT ONE. , THERE'S A MUFFIN. THAT'S QUITE EVERYTHING. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS DO. I KNOW THIS ISN'T EASY. THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I USUALLY TAKE A NAP AROUND ONE 30. SO , YOU GUYS DON'T HEAR ANY QUESTIONS FOR A WHILE. DON'T WORRY. YOU LEARN TO SLEEP WITH YOUR EYES OPEN. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. UM, THERESA NEEDS TO END THE RECORDING THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH, I HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND THAW OUT TOO FOR A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. YOU GUYS DID. MY GOSH, I DON'T, I WOULD END IT BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW I'LL PROBABLY END UP ERASING IT. YEAH. . AND I THINK SHE USUALLY MAKES A STATEMENT TO OH YEAH. WHY WE'RE BREAKING READY. THANK YOU. I'M JUST FINDING ALL THIS VERBIAGE ABOUT THE MISSION AND THE DUPLICATION AND STUFF. I HAVEN'T READ ANY OF THAT BEFORE. OH, YOU HAVE IT? OKAY. NO, DO THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BRINGING YOUR EXPERIENCE TODAY. I THINK IT WAS KINDA, THAT'S WHY I TRIED TO SUMMARIZE IT. I THINK I GOT ARE YOU STILL I'LL START SIX YEARS? YEAH. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF IT. GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE HAVEN'T CHECKED YOUR HOUSE. YEAH. BILL HAS US CHECK HIS HOUSE FOR WHAT, SIX MONTHS AT A TIME. OH WOW. WOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE REALLY SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. WELL IT AFTER 30 DAYS, IT'S UP TO THE VOLUNTEERS AND EVERYBODY GOES. THANK YOU. SO GOOD. THEY WERE, WE'RE ON. OH YEAH, WE'RE ON. OH YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S, THERE WAS A HOUSE UP THERE. UM, NEIGHBORHOOD. NO, GO AHEAD. YES. [03:50:11] I HAVE NO IDEA. LAST YEAR. THIS IS GREAT. WHO DID IT? GOOD JOB STEPH. YOU'RE DOING GREAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. IT'S FUN. THE REAL FUN IS TOMORROW. TOMORROW IS FUN. FUN. I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IS IT FUN? REALLY? NO. UM, NO. NO IT'S NOT. NO, NO. TOMORROW. TOMORROW IS DIFFICULT. IT'S NOT, I WON'T SAY IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S JUST STRESSFUL. MM-HMM. KIND OF. UM, CAUSE YOU WANNA GIVE MONEY TO EVERYBODY AND YOU CAN'T MM-HMM. . ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY THAT UH, THIS GROUP, UM, IS REALLY GOOD. GOOD. THERE'LL BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I DUNNO WHAT THIS IS, BUT IT'S REAL MESSY. HOLD ON. THAT'S WHAT I CHOSE TOO. SO YOU THINK IT'S VEGETARIAN? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. PRETTY SURE IT'S GOT THING IN IT. IT'S STUFF. OH, GLAD TO SEE YOU STEPHANIE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO. I GET TO SEE YOU ONCE A YEAR. IT'S, BUT IT'S HIGHLIGHT ON THE PHONE. . I'D LOVE THIS. TURNS OUT WE'RE NEIGHBOR. OH, I HAVE NO IDEA. OH WOW. YEAH, THEY'RE CLOSER TO COLOR CODE, BUT YEAH. YEAH. WE BACK UP THE COLOR CODE. WE'RE ON THE CORNER. MM-HMM. , UH, SOUTHWEST CORNER. MM-HMM. SOUTH WHERE? AND IT WAS NEAR, UH, PEGGY'S HOUSE. MM-HMM. AT PEGGY'S. MOVED TO TUCSON, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? EIGHT YEARS. MM-HMM. . HE USED TO GO TO GARLANDS MANY TIMES A YEAR. I USED TO GO, I GUESS SIXTIES WAS WHEN I STARTED THERE. MM-HMM. , UH, SEVENTIES FOR SURE. AND THEN THE SUMMER IT WAS NO LONGER. OKAY. GARY'S A GOOD FRIEND. MM. AND MARY. MM-HMM. BACK. I THINK MY WIFE AND MARY ARE TOGETHER RIGHT NOW DOING SO. OH GOOD. WE'LL GIVE THEM MY BEST. OKAY. THIS IS WHERE I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE. MM-HMM. . IT WAS ALWAYS COOLER THAN FINGERS AND IT WAS ABOUT FOUR TIMES A YEAH. I ALWAYS LOOKED FORWARD TO IT AND I WAS ALWAYS ABLE TO BRING MY KIDS BUT I COULDN'T BRING THE DOCK SO I ONCE HAD TO STAY UP AT ELK CORTEL, WHICH WAS FINE, BUT IT WASN'T THE SAME. I ELK CORTEL AND STEVE DOES A GREAT JOB. NO, IT WAS A NICE PLACE. IT WASN'T THE SAME AS GARLANDS. NO. SAME THING WITH THE FOREST HOUSES. DID ONE OF MY PARTNERS ALWAYS HAD THAT AND HE NEVER TOOK ME UP IN MY GARLANDS WEEKS, BUT I TOOK HIM UP ONCE ON THE FOREST HOUSES. IT WAS FINE, BUT I LIKE THE FOOD. OKAY. HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? GREAT. HOW ARE YOU? FINE, THANK YOU. GOOD. SO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING THIS LAST YEAR? [03:55:01] HOW WAS LAST YEAR? DID YOU, ARE YOU STILL WORKING ON 25 KIDS OR ARE YOU, ARE YOU ABLE TO INCREASE YOUR PARTICIPATION AT ALL? YEAH, WE, WE WERE UP LAST YEAR. I THINK WE WERE UP 15 OR 20%. AND THAT'S HISTORICALLY, THAT'S WHAT THE LEAGUE USUALLY SEES. THE WHOLE ARIZONA LEAGUE SEES LIKE 20 AND MM-HMM. . THAT'S DEFINITELY OUR GOAL. THEN YOU GET, THAT'S A GOOD MEASURE OF OUR SUCCESS. I THINK. UM, THAT AND THE KIDS RETURNING SEEMS TO BE A GOOD, GOOD MEASURE OF SUCCESS. AND THEN THE KIDS' PARENTS BECOMING COACHES AND BECOMING MORE INVOLVED. WE GOT A THREE TIER COACHING THING. SO, AND THEN THE YOUNGER BROTHERS OR SIBLINGS, UM, WHEN THEY BECOME OLD ENOUGH IN SIXTH GRADE JOINING, YOU'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN? THAT'S A GOOD OH GOOD. AND THEN GETTING THE KIDS TO RECRUIT THEIR FRIENDS. OH YEAH. THAT WE SEEN A LOT OF THAT LAST YEAR. IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF CRAZY LIKE THE, LIKE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON. LIKE I WANNA INVITE MY FRIEND AND YOU KNOW, SO WE HAD A LOT OF UM, NEW KIDS TRYING IT OUT, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH. IT'S BEEN, YEAH, WE GOT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANAGE THAT. CAUSE WHEN A KID COMES IN LIKE HALFWAY THROUGH AND EVERYBODY'S ENDURANCE IS UP AND THE FITNESS IS UP AND THEIR SKILLSETS UP AND NOW ALSO WE'VE GOT THESE NEWBIES COMING IN. SO WE GOTTA TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, IT WORKED OUT. WE HAD ENOUGH COACHES RESOURCES TO DO IT, BUT WE MIGHT NEED TO MAKE A DEADLINE WHEN THEY CAN SIGN UP BOX. SO TALK MORE OF THE KIDS IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE ON THE FENCE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. DON'T WANNA TURN ANYONE AWAY, YOU KNOW? UM, YEAH. CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF OUR PILLARS IS INCLUSIVITY. THAT EVERYBODY'S HAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WANTS IT. SO WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS THAT DON'T RIDE? DO YOU SEE THEM COMING BACK? YOU MEAN THEY DON'T RACE? THEY DON'T RACE. DON'T RACE? YEAH. OH YEAH. THEY DO HAVE FOR SURE MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . AND SOME HAVE CHOSE TO RACE LATER AND SOME JUST DON'T REALLY WANT TO RACE EVER SOME RACE IN THE BEGINNING AND THEN THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANNA RACE. SO IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. YEAH. BUT THERE'S, BUT THEY GENERALLY, THE ONES THAT ARE AROUND COME, SO THEY COME, THE CAMPING EXPERIENCE IS REALLY FANTASTIC. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY CAN PRE RIDE THE RACE COURSE WITHOUT HAVING TO BE SIGNED UP AS LONG AS THEY'RE A MEMBER OF THE TEAM. SO THEY CAN SEE THAT THE RACE COURSE MIGHT NOT BE AS INTIMIDATING AS THEY THINK. MM-HMM. , IT'S OFTEN IT'S WAY EASIER THAN DON'T A TRAIL. SO YEAH. THEY STILL PARTICIPATE. I THINK THE ONLY ONES THAT DON'T REALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE RACE WEEKENDS ARE THE ONES WITH LIKE, DIVORCED FAMILIES. SO THEY MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO GILBERT, ARIZONA TO THEIR DAD'S FOR THE WEEKEND. SO THOSE ARE THE, YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE AREA. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY ONE. WELL THEN SOMETIMES ON SUN, IF WE HAVE RACES ON SUNDAYS, WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T PARTICIPATE ON SUNDAYS BECAUSE EVERY RELIGIOUS REASONS AND YOU KNOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE RACE SCHEDULE. YOU KNOW, JUST OUR PRACTICE SCHEDULE. SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T RACE BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE OF SUNDAY. YEAH. SO ABOUT HALF THE RACES ARE ON SATURDAY AND THE OTHER HALF ARE ON SUNDAY. SO DON'T RACE THE ONES ON SATURDAY. HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF YOUR PARTICIPANTS DO YOU SEE COMING UP FROM KEVIN'S, KEVIN AND MARTY'S? UM, MAYBE 15%. IT'S, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE MORE AND THEY'RE LIKE, THE ONES THAT THEY KNOW ARE LIKE DEAD SET ON IT. THEY, WE, WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS AND I COME OUT AND MEET WITH THEM. UM, WE MIGHT DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. LIKE WE, WE WENT WITH, I TOOK LIKE THE SENIORS AND THE JUNIORS AND WE MET THEM AT THEIR END OF THE YEAR PARTY JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, JUST CREATE THAT RELATIONSHIP. MM-HMM. . SO THEY DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY FUNNEL TO US AND THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. WE ALL GET ALONG REALLY WELL OBVIOUSLY, SO NO. YEAH. AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A BIKE, HE'S ALWAYS OFFERED TO GET ONE OF THOSE BIKES FROM A SMALLER KIDS THAT HE HAS. SO THAT'S IT. WHAT ABOUT YOU? TOUGH AGE. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE KIDS START TO DRIVE CARS, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN REALLY LOSE THEM. . YEAH. SO RIGHT WHEN HE, RIGHT. WHEN HE'S FINISHING WITH 'EM IS RIGHT. WHEN THEY START GETTING INTO THAT. BUT YEAH, WE'VE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY BROUGHT 'EM FORWARD AND THAT'S A BIG SHIFT TO GO FROM LIKE RIDING A TRACK AND DOING THAT TO ACTUALLY RIDING THE TRAILS, BUT, OH, NO KIDDING. . TO THAT. WHAT ABOUT YOU GUYS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR ERIC? AND WELL, I JUST KNOW, UM, WE HAD ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE SCHOOLS THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A GIVEN EVERY YEAR. UM, OKAY. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE YET. DIDN'T YOU? DIDN'T? I THOUGHT I THINK IT, I THOUGHT IT CAME THROUGH. YOU SEE A LETTER FROM ERIC, DID YOU ASK IT FROM ME OR DID YOU ASK IT FROM THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY? YEAH. AND I THINK SHE REACHED OUT TO YOU. YEAH, KAREN. YEAH. WE REACHED OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY. YEAH. YOU ASKED FOR THE BUDGET AND THE, UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW DANNY DEN ALWAYS KIND OF CONFIRMS THAT THE SCHOOL WILL WORK WITH YOUR PROGRAM. SO LIKE THAT YEARLY LETTER, BUT I DON'T THINK THESE GUYS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT WITH THE SCHOOL. YOU DON'T, YOU DO YOURS OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL. RIGHT. WE'RE NOT AN OFFICIAL NO SCHOOL HAVE SEDONA RED ROCK HIGH THAT SO YOU'RE NOT COORDINATING WITH THEM. NO. RIGHT. CUZ THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE STUDENTS FROM ALL THE SCHOOLS RUNNING RIVER, SEDONA CHARTER, MANUS MOUNTAIN. SO THAT WAS ONE OF RED ROCK HIGHS. IF THEY WANTED US [04:00:01] TO CONTINUE AS AN OFFICIAL CLUB. OKAY. THEN WE COULDN'T HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE. OR NOT ANYONE. NO. RIGHT. CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS OPERATE OUT TOTALLY OUTSIDE THAT. OKAY. WE CAN MARK THAT AS NOT NECESSARY THOUGH. OKAY. WE MEET THERE, WE MEET IN THE PARKING LOT, THEY KNOW WE EXIST AND ALL THAT STUFF. MM-HMM. . BUT YOU'RE NOT USING THE SCHOOL BUILDING OR, OR JUGGLING SCHOOL TIMES OR ANYTHING? NO. UHUH THEY DON'T HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE ANY TIMES FOR YOUR PROGRAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. CORRECT. NEVER EARLY RELEASES ANY OF THOSE. YEAH. ANY OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY. THAT WE GET. ALL RIGHT. THE BIKING STUFF KIND OF ALL GETS PUSHED TOGETHER FOR US, I THINK. YEAH, FOR SURE. YEAH. I THINK MOST OF KEVIN'S PROGRAMS ARE LIKE, THEY'RE ALL, THAT'S ALL SCHOOL, THAT'S ALL AFTER SCHOOL STUFF. BUT I THINK ANYTHING TO DO WITH KIDS WE JUST ASSUME IS AFFILIATED WITH THE SCHOOLS. BUT YOU GOT NO, YOU EVEN HAVE HOMESCHOOLED, YOU KNOW. YEAH. KIDS, DAD AND, UM, SWIMMING SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, THEY DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL AFFILIATION. RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. ANYTHING YOU GUYS WANNA SHARE WITH US? AS FAR AS PROGRAMMING OR, NO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, WE KIND OF TALKED, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS EXIST. IF WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT FAMILIES WITH THAT ARE DOCTORS AND SUPPORT, SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. AND I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO RAISE KIDS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LIFELONG SPORT THEY CAN, THAT THEY CAN KEEP DOING AND REMAIN HEALTHY AND STRONG. AND THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE SEE IT BUILDING THESE, THESE STUDENTS IS JUST AMAZING. IT'S JUST MOUNTAIN BIKING JUST REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO THAT CON AND ALL THE SUPPORT FROM THE ATHLETES AND HOW GREAT THE TEAM COHESIVENESS IS. MM-HMM. BUILD A LOT OF CONFIDENCE. SO I TELL ERIC MY FAVORITE SAYING IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, UM, UH, CREATING, LIKE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S UNCOMFORTABLE BUT NOT UNSAFE. YOU KNOW? AND KIDS IN THAT, IN THAT AGE RANGE, THEIR BRAINS ARE STILL DEVELOPING AND SOME DON'T, LIKE, ESPECIALLY BOYS, BOYS DON'T REALIZE THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE UNSAFE. MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE A SKILL SET TO DO THIS PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, FEATURE WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ELSE IS MORE TIMID. IT COULD BE A MALE OR A FEMALE. WE SEE, OKAY, YOU DO HAVE THIS SKILLSET, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO THIS AND WE'LL SUPPORT YOU. YOU KNOW, JUST BUILDING CONFIDENCE. YOU'RE FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE. IT'S NOT UNSAFE. YEAH. BEING, AND I, WE SEE THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE UM, THE PRIDE AND THE CONFIDENCE BUILDING IN THEM BY JUST DOING SOMETHING THAT'S UNCOMFORTABLE. UNCOMFORTABLE IS ALSO JUST BEING OUT THERE AND CHALLENGING YOUR ENDURANCE. WE HAVE KIDS CRY , YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY'RE ALL SMILING AND HAPPY AND YOU KNOW, IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THEY'RE YOUNG, SOME ARE REALLY YOUNG. UM, BUT UM, YEAH. SO IT'S FUN TO SEE THEM BUILDING THAT CONFIDENCE AND RESILIENCE AND UM, YEAH. AND THE CAMARADERIE TO HAVE SO MANY COACHES AROUND RIDING ALONGSIDE, I THINK REALLY PREVENTS THAT DRAMA FROM CREEPING IN. AND THOSE KIDS FROM THAT TEND TO PICK ON OTHER KIDS. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THAT TROUBLE BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST HAVE SUCH A HIGH RACE RATIO COACH TO STUDENTS AND THEY'RE OUT THERE. WE'RE ALL RIDING THE SAME TRAIL TOGETHER. WE'RE ALL STOPPING FOR A WATER BREAK AT THE SAME TIME. SO, AND THEY ALSO TALK AND WE SET, YOU KNOW, GOALS EACH DAY OR, UM, AND THE OTHER KIDS ARE EVEN GREAT MENTORS. LIKE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMING FOR A WHILE, IF WE HAVE A NEW ONE COME, THEY REALLY, THEY STEP UP. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING. THEY, THEY'RE REALLY GOOD ABOUT JUST MAKING THE OTHER PERSON FEEL WELCOME AND YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT WAS HARD FOR ME TOO AND YOU KNOW, JUST STICK WITH IT. SO IT'S REALLY FUN TO SEE THE INTERACTION WITH, WITH THE ATHLETES IN THE ORLEANS. SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE KIND OF TAKING WHAT COULD BE THOUGHT OF AS AN INDIVIDUAL LIFE SPORT AND MAKING IT KIND OF INTO A TEAM SPORT AS WELL, AREN'T YOU? IT'S DEPEND ON BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. MM-HMM. AND THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO OPEN IT TO AS ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS. YEAH. AND WE HAVE ATHLETES GET THOSE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING A TEAM SPORT, YOU KNOW? AND, AND SO THIS WORKS OUT WELL FOR THEM CUZ IT IT'S INDIVIDUAL BUT IT'S ALSO TEAM. YEAH. I MEAN, WE GET SCORED AT THE RACES, BUT WE DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT THAT WITH THE KIDS. IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE REALLY MOTIVATED, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GET ON THE PODIUM, THEY'LL TRY REALLY HARD, BUT WE GET TEAM SCORES. UM, BUT WE DON'T REALLY, BUT EVERYBODY EARNS POINTS EVEN LAST PLACE. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T QUIT DURING, IN THE RACE, THEY EARN POINTS. SO IT'S SUCH A GREAT WAY, LIKE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIRD POINTS, YOU'VE FINISHED MM-HMM. , YOU DIDN'T QUIT. AND, AND THE, THE LEAGUE RECOGNIZES THAT AND WE GET, THEY GET POINTS, SO YOU ALWAYS POINT THAT OUT. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A COOL THING IS INDIVIDUAL POINTS. YEAH. FIRST, SECOND OR THIRD. BUT IT'S ALSO THE TEAM PIECE. SO THAT'S A NICE, NICE MIX OF THOSE TWO THINGS. YEAH. AND THE KIDS THAT DON'T COMPETE ARE STILL WELL ACCEPTED WITHIN THE [04:05:01] GROUP. OH YEAH. I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY REALIZE WHO DOES AND DOES IT. I MEAN, AND THEY ALL CHEER, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, SO-AND-SO'S RACING, YOU KNOW, LET'S, AND THERE YOU GO AND CHEER 'EM ON AND YEAH. THEY LAUNCH AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO SOME, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE KIDS KNOW THE OTHER ONES THAT DON'T RACE NECESSARILY. MM-HMM. GOOD. OKAY. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE? YOU GOT SERIOUSLY, YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT MAKES, MAKES US BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO. ALL THE TRAVELING AND EXPENSIVE BI PARTS, THE, THE HEALTHY MEALS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT WE DO PROVIDE. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE. LIKE WE GOT IT, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY EATING, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE JIMMY DEAN SAUSAGE BREAKFAST THE DAY OF THE RACE. SO WE KIND OF TAKE A LITTLE CONTROL AND, AND WE HAVE THE HELP THE KIDS HELP FOOD PREP, YOU KNOW, AND JUST GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. SO IT'S A LOT MORE THAN, WELL IT'S YOUTH DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, MOUNTAIN BIKING IS JUST A, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, POWER, THE TOOL TO HELP DEVELOP FOR SURE. A WHOLE FUN. MM-HMM. . WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TOO THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH FAMILIES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY NUCLEAR, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . TELL US ABOUT YOUR TRAIL STEWARDSHIP. WHAT'S, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S A BIG THING THAT WE CREATE. SO, UH, IT COMES IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE, BEING RESPECTFUL TO THE OTHER TRAIL USERS. MM-HMM. , UM, HELPING THEM. AND THEN WE GOT, WE GOT THE THING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PICK UP MICRO TRASH EVERY RIDE. UM, AND THEN JUST GETTING THEM TO REALIZE, HEY, THESE TRAILS DON'T CREATE THEMSELVES. WE NEED TO VOLUNTEER ON THE, THE TRAIL MAINTENANCE DAYS. AND I ALWAYS SEND THAT OUT. I WISH THE TRAIL MAINTENANCE DAYS WERE DURING OUR, OUR ACTUAL SEASON PRACTICE. UM, SO GETTING 'EM INVOLVED INTO COMING OUT AND WHEN I RIDE A TRAIL, THAT ONE THAT PAM AND I HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO WORK ON, AND WE'LL POINT THAT OUT, HEY, AND WE RIDE A NEW TRAIL. SO THIS IS IMPORTANT. LIKE, TO, TO LET THEM REALIZE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A CRUCIAL ROLE THAT WE PLAY, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE AND NOT RIDING OFF TRAIL, GIVE PEDESTRIANS RIGHT AWAY. ALL THAT IS WRAPPED UP IN A TRAIL STEWARDSHIP THAT WE TALK ABOUT AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. AND WE TRY AT PRACTICE TOO TO, UM, COME UP WITH A GREETING SO THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, SAY HELLO IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE OR SOMETHING TO THAT'S A SUNDAY THING. YEAH. LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE THAT'S ONCOMING, YOU KNOW, ON THE TRAIL MM-HMM. JUST TO, YEAH, WE'VE READ THAT. SO WE'RE LIKE CREATING THESE LITTLE TEAM CHEERS OR WHATEVER. THESE RITUAL THINGS CREATES BONDING. SO THAT'S OUR, THAT'S ONE OF OUR SUNDAY RITUALS. SOMEBODY'S GOTTA PICK UP, PICK OUT A WORD TO SAY THAT MEANS THAT SOME VERSION OF HELLO THAT WE'RE GONNA ALL AGREE TO GREET EVERY PERSON THAT WE RIDE BY. WOW. OKAY. WOW. THAT WAS OUR FAVORITE ONE TO PICK LAST YEAR. YEAH. SO THAT MAKES IT KIND OF FUN. THANK YOU GUYS KNOW TO CUT YOU OFF. OKAY. WE'RE OVER TIME. THANK YOU. TAKE CARE. EXCUSE ME. IS JULIE HERE? SHE'S ON THE PHONE. OH, OKAY. WELL, SHE'S HER OWN TIME. APPRECIATE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. HI. HI, ED . HOW ARE YOU? FINE. HI JULIE. HOW ARE YOU? HI, I'M GOOD. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WHAT YOU GOT COOKING THIS YEAR? UM, CELEBRATE SEDONA. THIS WOULD BE OUR THIRD YEAR. MM-HMM. AND, UM, KIND OF THE SAME FORMAT AS WE'VE DONE SIX A YEAR WITH, UM, BANDS AND FOOD TRUCKS. AND, AND TONIGHT, TONIGHT, OUR LAST ONE OF THE SEASON. MM-HMM. , WE'VE GOT, UH, BIG DADDY D IN THE DYNAMITES COMING TONIGHT, WHICH WILL BE REALLY FUN. AND WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 65TH ANNIVERSARY TONIGHT WITH A CAKE AND A CHAMPAGNE TOAST. AND IT'LL BE FUN. YOU'RE STILL RELYING ON ANECDOTAL DATA? YES. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING? I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION LAST YEAR AND WITH YEAR , WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT IT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME, WE RECOGNIZE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. THEY'RE PEOPLE WHO WE SEE WHO ARE LOCALS THAT COME. AND SO WHEN THERE ISN'T SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT LOCAL, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THEY'RE NOT. SO, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE FOR, UM, THESE EVENTS. I WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 200 AND 250 PEOPLE NOW, AND IT'S CATCHING ON MORE AND MORE AND MORE. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'LL CHANGE NEXT YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. UM, WE'RE HOPING TO GET, CONTINUE TO GROW THIS AND, UM, MAYBE THERE'LL BECOME A TIME WHEN WE REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S REALLY KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, CAPTURE EVERYBODY [04:10:01] AND, AND GO AFTER THEM AND SAY, WHAT'S YOUR ZIP CODE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, THERE'S REALLY NO SOLID WAY BECAUSE WE DON'T SELL TICKETS. WE SOLD TICKETS. THAT'D BE ONE THING, BUT IT'S FREE. SO FREE EVENTS, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO GET QUANTITATIVE DATA. SO WOULD YOU SAY THOUGH, THAT YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING THE SAME 200, 200 PEOPLE EVERY TIME? NO, NO, NO. IT'S NOT THE SAME 200 PEOPLE. IT'S JUST PEOPLE THAT WE RECOGNIZE BECAUSE THEY'RE ARE PEOPLE. YOU'RE YOUR PEOPLE. MEANING, MEANING SAC PEOPLE, MEANING COMMUNITY PEOPLE, MEANING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY COME FROM THE CHAMBER OR BUSINESSES THAT WE KNOW OR, OR ARTISTS THAT WE DEAL WITH. MM-HMM. , I WAS THERE ONCE, BUT I WASN'T VISIBLE THEN. BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER, LIKE, UM, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVALS HAS ADOPTED THIS. AND ALSO, UH, CAUSE THEY HAVE FREE EVENTS. THE FREE EVENT, THE ONE WE SPONSOR MM-HMM. OR THE CITY SPONSORS IS THE FREE EVENT. AND THE OTHER ONE THAT'S FREE THAT WAS ALSO KIND OF NOT, YOU KNOW, HAD THE SAME CHALLENGE WAS, UM, VISUAL ARTS COALITION. OKAY. YEP. BUT WHAT THEY, UH, HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE IS DO AN ENTER TO WIN CONTEST AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PIECE OF, LIKE, VISUAL ARTS COALITION HAS A PIECE OF ART AND THE HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL HAS A, A GLASS HUMMINGBIRD FEEDER. IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? DO YOU THINK YOU CAN? YEAH, I MEAN, RAFFLES ARE ALWAYS A WAY TO CAPTURE NAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, FOR SURE. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . UM, YEAH. AND WE, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME WE'VE DONE THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT CONSISTENTLY. MM-HMM. , THE, THE ONLY, UM, OUR, OUR ONLY CONCERN FROM OUR STANDPOINT IS THE FACT THAT WE GET CHALLENGED ON THIS BY CITY COUNCIL FOR EVERY ORGANIZATION. YEAH. AND WITHOUT THAT HARD DATA, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR, UM, IT, IT IS BECOME INCREASINGLY SO MM-HMM. FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO AND SAY YES, DEFINITIVELY THESE 300 PEOPLE ARE SEDONA RESIDENTS. YEAH. UH, SO JUST TO, I MEAN, I GET IT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, SAMPLING WOULD ALSO WORK. YEAH. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. WITH SAMPLING. YEAH. TONIGHT. IS THERE A WAY FOR YOU TO SAMPLE EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN THROUGH ONE OF THE THREE ENTRANCES? PROBABLY NOT TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED TO LINE THAT UP AHEAD OF TIME, AND WE'VE GOT SO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IT'S INSANE. YEAH. SO , BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE, UM, NEXT YEAR FOR SURE. YEAH. I'D REALLY LIKE TO TRY TO HAVE YOU FACTOR THAT IN. YEAH. JUST TO, WELL, AND YOU KNOW, WE DO, I MEAN, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS FREE, REALLY. I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS FREE MM-HMM. . AND SO THERE ARE, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DEVICES THAT PEOPLE HAVE USED, UM, WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE, THE CAPITAL TO INVEST IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM. AS WELL. THAT REALLY DOES HELP CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE? UM, IT'S A, IT'S LIKE A HANDHELD DEVICE THAT YOU WALK AROUND THROUGH THE CROWDS AND YOU, YOU, UM, ACT ASK THEM, UH, WHAT THEIR ZIP CODE IS AND IT ENTERS RIGHT INTO THE THING AND MM-HMM. , SO YOU GET IT. MM-HMM. , LIKE VERY EASY AND QUICKLY MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, HOW ABOUT LOOKING AT LICENSE PLATES IN THE PARKING LOT? YOUR PARKING LOT IS PRETTY MUCH DEDICATED. IT IS. TO YOUR FOOT, TO YOUR EVENT. YEAH. MOSTLY. ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, LICENSE PLATES ARE, DON'T TELL YOU EVERY, BUT THE, WELL, HOW MUCH WOULD ONE OF THE CLICKER THINGS, I DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT. THAT WOULD BE, MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO WRITE INTO A REQUEST. YEAH. BECAUSE IT, IT'S SUCH AN ESSENTIAL PART OF WHAT WE DO THAT IF YOU CAN NAIL THAT DOWN, I MEAN YEAH. I'M JUST, I'M JUST, JUST SAYING, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COUNCIL SOMETIME THAT REALLY LOWERS THE HAMMER ON THAT OR YEAH. YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE ORGANIZATION. WELL, WE CERTAINLY COULD USE IT FOR PLAN AIR FESTIVAL AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO TOO. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. , EVEN IF IT WERE BINARY, NOT, AND THIS ZIP CODE OR ANYWHERE ELSE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. I'D BE PRETTY EASY. YEAH. AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD RECEIVE THAT AND SAY, LOOK, 69% OF THE PEOPLE YEAH. HAD THE ZIP YEAH. ONLY CLICK 'EM FOR THE PEOPLE. THAT'S GOOD. BY AREA. YEAH. THAT'S AN IDEA. ONLY CLICKING FOR THE ZIP, YOU KNOW, A SEDONA ZIP. AND THEN THE REST OF 'EM YOU JUST IGNORE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT 300 PEOPLE THERE AND YOU ONLY CLICK THE THING A HUNDRED TIMES. I KNOW OUR BARTENDERS, YOU KNOW, TALK, THEY INTERACT MOSTLY WITH EVERY, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY. MM-HMM. AND THEY ARE ALWAYS TALKING TO THEM, WHICH IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S THAT QUALITATIVE DATA. RIGHT. UM, BUT THEY DON'T RECORD IT. SO THERE [04:15:01] AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN OR IF, BUT IT JUST, WITH THAT HARD DATA, IT JUST MAKES OUR JOB EASIER. SURE. YOU KNOW, BE ONE WAY TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, GET CHUCK AND NEIL TO SAY, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND JUST, WELL, THEY, THEY DO THAT. THEY JUST DON WRITE IT DOWN. CHECK, CHECK. YEAH. CHECK CHECK. THEY CHECK KEEP HASHTAGS. YEAH. YEAH. WAY YOU COULD SAY, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GOT THAT BOUGHT ALCOHOL, WE BOUGHT ALCOHOL. . THAT'S IMPORTANT. THIS PERCENTAGE. YEAH. IT'S LOCAL. YEAH, FOR SURE. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T BE TOO HARD. NO, THAT WOULDN'T, THAT WOULDN'T. AND THEY'VE DONE THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE. BUT THAT THE, ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WITH THIS PAST YEAR IS THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN COLLECTING AEP SIX SURVEYS AT EVERY SINGLE EVENT. MM-HMM. , THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY SIX STUDY WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING, WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON COLLECTING THOSE SURVEYS MOSTLY. AND NOW THAT THAT'S OVER, WE'RE DONE COLLECTING SURVEYS SO WE CAN START FOCUSING ON OTHER WAYS TO CAPTURE NAMES AND, UM, DATA. MM-HMM. , THERE YOU GO. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION HERE. UM, I'M READING THE NOTES I TOOK APPARENTLY SOME TIME AGO, BECAUSE I'VE KIND OF FORGOTTEN WHAT IT REALLY MEANS, BUT MAYBE IT'S OKAY. I WROTE DOWN, THIS IS WHAT I ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN. I WROTE DOWN LARGE SALARIES AND MARKETING IN THEIR PROPOSAL. SO I JUST WONDERED, IS THAT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS AND I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME, OR YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. HERE. OR WERE THEY, WERE THEY LARGE? OR IS THAT JUST WE PUT, WE PUT A LOT OF PERSON, WELL, OUR PERSONNEL IS, WHAT DOES THAT IS, IS BEING SALARIED DURING THE TIME OF THE, OF COURSE. SO WE, EVERY TIME YOU WRITE A GRANT, YOU ATTRIBUTE A PORTION OF THAT SALARY TO THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE TO MAKE THE EVENT HAPPEN. TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. EXACTLY. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS VERY, VERY PERSONNEL DRIVEN. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MAKE IT HAPPEN. MM-HMM. . SO WE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE HIRING CONTRACTORS, WE'RE USING OUR OWN PEOPLE. OKAY. SO, OH, THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. SO IT'S A, IT'S AN, IT'S A PER CAPITA ALLOCATION TO THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. OKAY. EXACTLY. BUT IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S BASED ON AN APPROXIMATION OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WE PUT INTO IT AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN, LIKE, MARKETING PROMOTIONS AND ADVERTISING WAS LIKE 15,000, ABOUT ONE FOURTH OF THE TOTAL EXPENSES FOR THE PROJECT. AND SO WHERE DO YOU DO THAT? MARKETING? THE MARKETING DIRECT MARKETING EXPENSES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. UNDER THE PROGRAM ACTIVITY BUDGET. I WAS LOOKING. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE SPEND ON MARKETING. YEAH. BUT HOW, THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS ADS WHERE, SO WE PLAY IN REDROCK NEWS AND KUDOS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO, PLUS THE SOCIAL MEDIA, THE EMAILS THAT HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED, ALL OF THAT. I SEE. AND THAT ISN'T, AND THAT'S, THAT'S EXPENSIVE A LOT. AND WHEN YOU HAVE SIX EVENTS AND YOU'RE PLACING ADS, IT'S EXPENSIVE. REDROCK NEWS IS VERY EXPENSIVE. KUDOS IS VERY EXPENSIVE. AND THEN SOMETIMES WE'LL PLACE ADS IN, UM, SIT ON MONTHLY. UM, WE USUALLY DON'T GO BEYOND SOME, WELL, NO, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE AIMING AT SEDONA RESIDENCE, ESSENTIALLY. YEAH. MM-HMM. . SO YOU WOULDN'T GO BEYOND THAT MUCH, I WOULDN'T THINK. USUALLY. YEAH. YEAH. IT JUST SEEMED, I DON'T THAT, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A LOT. AS I WROTE TO MYSELF HERE, I KNOW YOU HAD SOME WATER A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT HOW HAVE YOUR OR YOUR NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT YOU FOR? YEAH. YOU KNOW, UM, I DID THE BIG GAY ART SHOW OPENING. UM, THE ONE, THE CELEBRATES ON THAT WE HAD IN DECEMBER, WE HAD TERRIBLE WEATHER MM-HMM. AND WE DEBATED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO CANCEL IT. RIGHT. BUT WE WERE HOLDING IT INDOORS AND WE ENDED UP JUST BEING CRAMMED, UM, WITH PEOPLE THAT NIGHT. SO WE WERE KIND OF SHOCKED. THERE WERE PROBABLY ABOUT 150 PEOPLE THAT NIGHT. MM-HMM. . SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE SPLITTING OPEN BOTH ROOMS. , , KNOCKING OVER THINGS. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, LAST AND LAST MONTH, UM, NOBODY SHOWED UP UNTIL FOUR 30. AND THEN TONS OF PEOPLE CAME. SO WE WERE, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THE THING WITH THESE FREE EVENTS, CUZ YOU JUST NEVER DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA SHOW UP. BUT WE HAD PROBABLY, AT LEAST, WE HAD AT LEAST 200 PEOPLE, UM, FOR THE LAST ONE, WHICH WAS GREAT. GOOD. YEAH. THAT'S ROCKING. THEY JUST ALL CAME LATE. IT'S ROCK. SO THANK YOU JULIE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK SO MUCH. THANK SO MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU LATER HAVE FUN TONIGHT. THANK YOU. AND WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOUR FUNDING, SO WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THAT PART OF THE LINE. NOT THAT I SAID THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. NO. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. NO, THAT'S WHY I, BECAUSE I SERIOUSLY COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT I EVEN MEANT BY THAT. NO, WELL YOU DID. I MEAN, THAT WAS GOOD. IT SEEMS HIGH. NO, IT'S FINE. BUT I REMEMBER ABOUT JULIE WHEN SHE FIRST ARRIVED, IT WAS VERY HARD FOR HER TO COME TO SEDONA. SHE [04:20:01] CAME FROM A BIG METROPOLITAN AREA OUT EAST AND WHEN SHE FIRST LEARNED ABOUT OUR GRANT PROGRAM, SHE WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, THIS IS SO PRIMITIVE. I'VE GIVEN AWAY WAY MORE MONEY. AND WE HAD A BETTER SYSTEM THAN SO SHE ADJUST TO WHAT WE WERE DOING RURAL. IT'S KIND FUN. IT'S A BLOCK PARTY PARTY. HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M DOING WELL, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME BACK. I'M GLAD YOU'RE, I'M, YOU JUST CAN'T GET RID OF THIS, CAN YOU? NO. I HAVE, I HAVE IT TO MY DNA. I LOVE THAT, THAT PANEL, WE'RE GONNA HOLD THIS MATH FEED TO THE FIRE 30TH ANNIVERSARY. IT'S EXCITING, ISN'T IT? IT'LL BE MY 20TH. THE ORGANIZATION'S 30TH. THE ORGANIZATION IS VERY LUCKY. YEAH, THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ASKING FOR $30,000. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. I KNEW IT. YEAH. I THOUGHT SO. IT WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY FUNNY, RIGHT BEFORE I WROTE THIS GRANT, I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY KNEW I WAS GONNA ASK FOR THINGS FOR THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR, BUT ONE OF OUR DONOR MEMBERS, MEMBER DONORS CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, HEY, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF A 30 FOR 30 CAMPAIGN AND GET PEOPLE TO DONATE YOU $30,000? AND I LOOKED AT HIM, I SAID, WOW. I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT TO ASK FOR. AND HE SAID, MY WIFE AND I WILL GIVE THE FIRST. AND HE SAID, SO IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT AS A MATCH, YOU CAN, OR HOWEVER YOU WANT, HOWEVER YOU DOING IT. AND HE SAID, BUT I'LL WAIT TILL YOUR NEW TRICO YEAR. SO IT COUNTS DURING THE 30TH YEAR. AND THAT'S WHAT I LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY WAS WRITING THIS GRANT. I'M LIKE, HUH, THIS MAKES SENSE. AND IRONICALLY, WE DID THIS SORT OF FIVE YEARS AGO YOU FUNDED OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION WITH SIMILAR, BUT WE'VE ADDED ON PROGRAMS FOR THIS ONE. AND IT WAS SO WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF FUN FOR US TO DO. SO WE THOUGHT, WHY NOT TRY SOMETHING AND EXPAND ON THAT SINCE IT WORKS SO WELL THE 25TH. SO IRONICALLY, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD LITTLE TWIST OF FATE THAT HAPPENED. SO IT'S REALLY NICE. SO THEY'RE, THEY HELPED KICK OFF OUR CAMPAIGN, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL AS WELL. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE BRINGING IN THE FESTIVAL FAVORITES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. YEAH. BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT A GOOD PORTION OF YOUR AUDIENCE IS LOCAL FOR THOSE. OH, VERY MUCH SO. YEAH. OUR, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S ABOUT 90% LOCALS THAT COME TO THE THEATERS AND 10% WE GET SOME RESIDUAL TOURISTS THAT COME IN. UM, SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR LOCALS AND ED, TO YOUR POINT, WHAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MANY NEW LOCAL LOCALS THAT HAVE MOVED HERE MORE RECENTLY. NEVER SAW THESE FILMS WHEN WE SHOWED THEM THE FIRST TIME. MM-HMM. AND THEN SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, EITHER WERE HERE AND MISSED THE FILMS OR WANT TO SEE 'EM AGAIN. SO IT'S IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. YOU BRING 'EM BACK THE MONGOLIAN FILM, RIGHT? WELL, OF COURSE. YEAH. YEAH. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A HISTORY WITH US. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. OKAY. FREE SCHOOL PROGRAMS. YEAH. HAVE YOU TALKED TO DENNY DARDEN ABOUT THAT? DID YOU GET WE DID. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO DO THESE PROGRAMS AT THE SCHOOL, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THEM. WE JUST DID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE NEWSPAPERS AT ALL, BUT WE JUST TOOK EVERY BRILLIANT THING, THE LIVE ONE MAN SHOW INTO ALL FOUR AREA HIGH SCHOOLS, RED ROCK, CAMP VERDE, INGUEZ, AND VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL. AND SOLIDIFIED THE FACT THAT WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS OR FILMS LIKE THIS OR SPECIAL EVENTS, THEY WANT US TO COME BACK. MM-HMM. . UM, AND THE, THE NEW PRINCIPAL OVER THERE IS COMMITTED, UM, TO DOING THINGS LIKE THIS. SO WE TRY TO DO THAT WHENEVER WE CAN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY DURING THE FILM FESTIVAL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED NOW TO BE, HAVE THE FILM FESTIVAL WHILE THEY'RE IN SCHOOL. AND WE EXIST DURING A SCHOOL WEEK, SO OUR SHOWS START AT FOUR AND SEVEN OVER THERE. MM-HMM. . BUT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BRING STUDENTS IN FOR FILM SCREENINGS DURING THE DAY. SO WE DO A LOT OF THAT DURING FILM FESTIVAL WEEK. OKAY. UM, IN THAT REGARD. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. CAUSE WE, FOR ALL THE FOLKS PAT THAT INTERACT WITH THE SCHOOL WE ASKED FOR, WE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SCHOOL STATING THAT THEY DO INTEND. AND I THINK JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE SMALL ELEMENT OF THE WHOLE RIGHT, RIGHT. SO WE KIND OF FORGOT TO REACH OUT TO YOU FOR THAT. BUT IT'S NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE IT, BUT, SO MAYBE SO NEXT YEAR, JUST KEEP THAT BACK. I HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. I I NEVER THINK OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SUCH A, WE'VE GOT HAD AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM FOR SO MANY YEARS THAT THEY'VE KIND OF GROWN TO TRUST US. SURE. AND JENNIFER CHILDREN MAKES IT REALLY EASY TO DO WELL. IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE, UM, CHAMBER MUSIC, YOU KNOW, I MEAN RIGHT. IT'S LIKE THEY BECOME PART OF THE CURRICULUM AND, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, SO JUST A HEADS UP, BUT OTHER THIS IS, THIS IS THIS JURY TO BE ANYMORE PACKED WITH STUFF. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DON'T A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON HERE. WELL, THE [04:25:01] NICE PART ABOUT IT IS WE ADDED THE SECONDS THEATER LAST YEAR. OUR, OUR, OUR L STILL SHELDON THEATER WILL BE A YEAR OLD IN TWO WEEKS. OKAY. UM, IT HAS GIVEN US THE FREEDOM TO DO SO MANY MORE THINGS. SO YOUR VOLUME IS, AS YOUR VOLUME OF STUFF HAS INCREASED, JUST BY SHEER, WE, WE JUST DID A CASE STATEMENT. WE'RE DOING A, A MEMBER, UH, DONOR ENGAGEMENT MEETING AT THE END OF JUNE. SO WE DID A NEW CASE STATEMENT KIND OF UPDATING EVERYBODY ON THE LEFT, THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHAT'S HAPPENED THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, THROUGH BUILDING THE THEATER, THE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN. UM, AND ONE OF THE MOST STAGGERING, WE DON'T EVEN THINK OF IT CUZ WE'RE LIVING IT AND DOING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. ONE OF THE MOST STAGGERING STATISTICS IS WE WENT FROM HOSTING 700 FILM SCREENINGS A YEAR TO 1400. NOT COUNTING OUR FILM FESTIVAL, 1400 FILM SCREENINGS, CUZ WE HAVE AT LEAST FOUR SCREENINGS A DAY EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR IN THE, IN BOTH IN THE THEATERS. SO WE, WE WERE ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY DO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH ADDING THE ALICE HILLS SHELTON THEATER BY DOUBLING WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING. WE CAN ADD SHOW TIMES AND DO THEM AT ONE IN THE AFTERNOON. UM, WE ARE NOW THE HOME BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY. WE'RE NOW THE HOME FOR SEVERAL GROUPS WHO MEET THE CAMERA CLUB AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT NEEDED A THEATRICAL VENUE. AND I DON'T HAVE TO CANCEL A FILM. WE CAN STILL DO A FILM IN THE OTHER THEATER WHILE THEY'RE DOING THEIR MEETING IN THE, IN THE MARY FISHER THEATER. SO IT'S ALLOWED US THAT CAPABILITY TO JUST KEEP ADDING AND DOING FOR WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR AND WHAT OUR SUPPORTERS WILL, WILL COME OUT AND DO. SPEAKING OF WHICH IS YOUR ATTENDANCE LIKE FULL ALL THE TIME? IT'S NOT FULL ALL THE TIME. WE ARE COMING BACK THAT WE'RE ALMOST TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. OKAY. UH, WE'RE VERY BLESSED IN SEDONA, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE AIR SCRUBBER SYSTEM IN. YEAH. SO WE, WE KEEP PEOPLE VERY, VERY SAFE. THEY FEEL VERY SAFE COMING TO OUR THEATER. BUT STILL, THERE'S A PORTION OF THE, THE CROWDS, THE AUDIENCE THAT JUST IS NOT, HASN'T BEEN COMFORTABLE COMING OUT TO PLEXES. I HAD TWO PEOPLE LAST WEEK THAT CAME TO SEE THE YOGI BEAR FILM. UM, IT WAS THEIR FIRST FILM SINCE 2000 IN A PUBLIC PLACE. 20 OR, OR 2020, EXCUSE ME. 2020. SINCE THE PANDEMIC. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT YET. THEY SAID, WELL, WE'VE BEEN OUT, WE HAVEN'T GONE TO A MOVIE THEATER MM-HMM. . UM, SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE COMING BACK. OUR FESTIVAL ITSELF IN FEBRUARY WAS OUR BIGGEST FESTIVAL WAS THE 2020 FESTIVAL RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST YEAR. WE WERE ALMOST AT THOSE NUMBERS. AND IT HASN'T BEEN THAT WAY THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS. SO WE THINK THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY, UM, KIND OF A BANNER YEAR FOR US AND ALLOW US TO DO MORE THINGS, UM, IN THAT REGARD. YEAH. I, YOUR PROPOSAL PAT, UH, WHEN ON THE BUDGET FOR THE, THIS PARTICULAR GRANT PROPOSAL YOU HAD VERY LARGE TO ME, TRAVEL EXPENSES. IS THAT FOR BRINGING IN THE, THE SPECIAL CELEBRITIES AND FILMMAKERS? YES. THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHUNK. IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST BUDGET LINES AT THE FILM FESTIVAL. RIGHT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TO GET, TO GET, IF I COULD EVER DO THIS REMAINS IN THIS ROOM, IF I COULD EVER DO A CELEBRITY FREE FESTIVAL, I WOULD BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE FILMS. IT'S ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT FILMS AND THE FILMMAKERS. THE CELEBRITIES ARE THE EYE CANDY THAT ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COME TO SEE ALL THE OTHER FILMS. SO WE NEED THEM AND THEY'RE A WONDERFUL PART OF OUR FESTIVAL AND A WONDERFUL THING TO HAVE. BUT THEY'RE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART CUZ THEY HAVE TO BE FLOWN FIRST CLASS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE FIRST CLASS ACCOMMODATIONS HERE. AND SOME OF OUR HOTEL ROOMS ARE DONATED, BUT SOME OF THE NIGHT, SOME OF THE ONES WE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR. OKAY. UM, WE OFTEN HAVE TO, WE DON'T PAY THEM FOR, WE DON'T PAY THEM AN APPEARANCE FEE. WE'RE VERY LUCKY. THEY USUALLY AGREE TO COME WITH WITHOUT AN APPEARANCE FEE, BUT WE DO COVER THEIR PER DIEMS AND MEALS AND THINGS. SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST CHUNK IS THAT AIRFARE, GROUND TRANSPORTATION, HOSPITALITY PIECE ON THERE. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, I REALLY WISH I COULD DO IT WITHOUT THEM JUST TO SEE BUT , BUT THEY ARE, I WON'T TELL . NO, THAT'S ALRIGHT. YOU'RE ON PUBLIC RECORD. YEAH. SO MUCH FOR IT. STAYING IN THIS ROOM. SAY SOMETHING, BUT YOU WERE ALREADY ROLLING . THIS WE WERE, THIS YEAR WE WERE SO FORTUNATE THAT WE HAD SO MANY CELEBRITIES SAY YES TO US. YOU KNOW, JACQUELINE BI, KAREN ALLEN, YOU KNOW, ALL, WE HAD A HOPE. WE HAD, USUALLY WE HAVE A CELEBRITY GUEST AT THE BEGINNING AND A CELEBRITY GUEST AT THE END. WE LITERALLY HAD ONE, A DIFFERENT SET THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WEEK THAT ACTUALLY CAME. UM, AND IT WAS, IT WAS PHENOMENAL. BUT THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT PRICEY, BUT VERY GOOD FOR OUR PUBLICITY AND VERY GOOD FOR PUTTING US ON THE MAP. OKAY, DARLING, ANYTHING ELSE? THAT WAS YOUR 10 MINUTES AND WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO. THANKS PAT. TAKE IT EASY. REALLY GOOD. HAVE HEY JEN, THANK I'M, THANKS. HAVE A GREAT DAY. DID YOU GUYS NOTICE THE ENERGY LEVEL IN THE ROOM? JUST DROP OH NO, HE DOESN'T CHARGE. LITTLE SUBDUED [04:30:01] . I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I EVER CAME HERE, I WENT TO ONE OF THE, WHERE HE JUST KIND OF GAVE THE INTRODUCTION MINUTES, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, WHOA. THAT MAN. IT IS THE FOURTH. IT'S NOT TOO, TOO LATE TO GO TO THAT YO YOGI MIRROR. OH, IT GOOD, HUH? I HAVEN'T SEEN, I READ, BUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE. I THINK IT'S, OH, IT'S ON TODAY'S. OKAY. THANKS SO MUCH. THAT'LL BE IT. TAKE CARE. BYE-BYE. I READ THE REVIEW OF IT AND I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A WHOLE LOT MORE IN DEPTH THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE. WE SAW BLACKBERRY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. OH, WERE YOU WANNA ROLL AHEAD GUYS? YES. PICK UP SOME TIME HERE. UH, MAN'S TOGETHER. OKAY. YEAH. AMAZING. HELLO. HEY. HELLO. HOW YOU DOING? I'M DOING GOOD. HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? HI, HOW'S THE STAR ED AT THE VERDE VALLEY? OH, I'LL ASK HIM. , DID YOU EVER MEET HIM? IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BEN HERE? ARE WE DOING, UM, WE'RE DOING SNACKS AGAIN THIS YEAR. ARE WE DOING SNACK? NO, NO. HIGH PROTEIN, FRESH FOOD, HOME DELIVERY, BETTER NUTRITION FOR ALL. SO THAT ENCOMPASSES HOME DELIVERY. THANK YOU. THE HOME DELIVERY DELIVERY IN SEDONA, UH, WORKING WITH FARMS. UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES AN UPGRADE TO SOME OF THE SNACK BOXES, THE SEDONA SNACK BOXES. I KNEW I READ THOSE. MIX WERE TAKING OUT ONE OF THE, UH, HIGHER SUGAR, LOWER COST ITEMS AND, UH, PUTTING IN A NUT FREE TRAIL MIX THAT WE'RE BUILDING OURSELVES, UH, IN, INTO THE SNACK BOXES. WHAT PROMPTED THE HOME DELIVERY? UH, INBOUND PHONE CALLS. OH. GIVE US A LITTLE RUNDOWN. WHAT, WHAT THOSE SOUNDED LIKE. UH, YEAH. SO, UM, IN SEDONA, THE HOME DELIVERIES ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY, UH, FROM THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY HERE, UH, IN THE, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. THEY'RE DISPROPORTIONATELY IN THE SENIOR COMMUNITY. UM, SO WE, WE HAVE A WEBSITE CALLED MO HEALTH, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN PROMOTING OUT. AND THAT SHOWS WHEN AND WHERE FOOD ASSISTANCE IS AVAILABLE ANYWHERE. NOT JUST MANZANITA, BUT ALL THE OTHER FOOD ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET INBOUND PHONE CALLS. SO A PHONE CALL, UH, OR EMAIL OR ONLINE FORM IS USUALLY LIKE, HEY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE FOOD ASSISTANCE. AND SO THEN WE'LL CALL THEM BACK, VERIFY THEY'RE ELIGIBLE AND SIGN THEM UP FOR THE PROGRAM. BUT HOW, UH, WHAT IS THE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE HISPANIC DEMOGRAPHIC MM-HMM. HERE, HERE IN SEDONA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. WHAT'S THE NATURE OF WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S MORE CHARACTERISTIC ABOUT WORKING FAMILIES IS, UM, ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS. SO HOME DELIVERY IS BASICALLY FOR, IT'S FOR ANYBODY, BUT IT'S FOR TWO SUBSETS. ONE IS FOR HOME BOUND FOLKS, WHICH IS PRI PRIMARILY SENIORS. RIGHT. UM, AND A SMALL SUBSET OF DISABILITY OR MOBILITY ISSUES. AND THE OTHER IS ACTUALLY WORKING FAMILIES. SO THAT'S PART OF THE GAP OF HOME DELIVERY IS THAT MOST FOOD ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS OPERATE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF NINE TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WHERE WORKING FAMILIES STRUGGLE TO GET TO THEM. SO OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, OF OUR, I THINK WE'VE INCREASED BY 250 TOTAL VERDE VALLEY WIDE HOME DELIVERIES. UM, ABOUT HALF OF THOSE IS WORKING FAMILIES, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT PERCENTAGE. NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. BUT IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS PART OF THE, UH, NICHE, I GUESS IS FAMILIES THAT JUST STRUGGLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, PICK UP THEIR KIDS AND GO TO WORK AND ALSO WAIT IN LINE OR, YOU KNOW, DURING THE WEEK. SO HOME DELIVERY IS A GOOD OPTION FOR THEM AS WELL. IS THAT, IS THAT JUST, IS THAT MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN HAVING A POPUP PANTRY THAT'S OPEN AFTER HOURS? UM, WELL, IT'S COST EFFECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE FREE. UH, AND WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH DOORDASH. SO, UH, DOORDASH RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A, UH, WE'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THEM STARTING IN JANUARY, BUT FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH A STATE ORGANIZATION CALLED TWO 11, WHICH HAS A CONTRACT WITH DOORDASH. AND BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE, WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE BULK, UM, DISTRIBUTIONS. SO WE WERE DOING A SATURDAY DISTRIBUTION AT THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE, AND WE DID IT FOR OVER A YEAR. MM-HMM. , UH, AND, UH, HAD GREAT SUCCESS. UM, BUT WE SURVEYED THE CLIENTS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WOULD HOME DELIVERY BE BETTER OR WORSE? AND OF COURSE IT WAS LIKE BETTER FOR ALMOST EVERYBODY. UM, SO HOME DELIVERY'S FREE ESSENTIALLY AS COMPARED TO A POPUP PANTRY FROM GOT IT. YOU KNOW, THE MARGINAL COST IS IS ALMOST, [04:35:01] UM, LESS BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS STAFF TIME, UM, INVOLVED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY DOORDASH. NO, NO. AND THEN YOUR VOLUNTEERS, YOU DON'T REIMBURSE FOR GAS. WE DON'T REIMBURSE ANY MAN. REALLY. I'M GONNA KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO AS LONG AS I CAN. YEAH. SO, UM, THE DOORDASH CONTRACT WILL START WITH US, UM, WILL RESTART IN JULY AND GO THROUGH SEPTEMBER. SO WE HAVE THREE MORE MONTHS OF THAT PROGRAM UP TO 500 DELIVERIES A MONTH. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, PRETTY DEEP IN CONVERSATIONS WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPONSOR THAT TO PAY DOORDASH FOR TWO YEARS, UP TO 500 DELIVERIES A MONTH. UM, WHICH WON'T BE THE FULL EXTENT OF THE PROGRAM. THE REST OF IT ARE, WE THINK OUR VOLUNTEERS COULD HANDLE THAT. SO YOU'RE GONNA CHALLENGE THE LOCAL GROWERS TO PRODUCE MORE FOOD? UM, IS THAT RIGHT? I WOULD LOVE TO CHALLENGE THEM TO PRODUCE MORE. YEAH. THERE'S A FEW THAT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REALLY DO IT RIGHT NOW, THE PART OF IT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU KNOW, UH, FARMERS NEED INCOME TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN MORE GREENHOUSES OR MORE EQUIPMENT. BUT THIS IS A BIG PART OF YOUR GRANT APPLICATION WAS TO, UM, USE LOCAL PRODUCE MM-HMM. , RIGHT? MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PRODUCE MORE PRODUCE THAN THEY ARE NOW, OR DO, DO YOU KNOW THAT? YEAH, SO IT DEPENDS ON THE FARMERS. SOME OF THE FARMERS HAVE EXCESS ALREADY AND, AND RUN AN EXCESS EVERY YEAR. MM-HMM. , PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE PAULDEN CHINO AREA, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE MORE GENERATIONAL FARMERS IN THAT AREA. MM-HMM. . SO WE HAVE ABOUT SIX FARMS OUT THERE THAT, UM, WE'RE BUYING SOME OF WHAT IS UNSOLD OR, OR THEY GROW AND GO TO THE MARKETS AND THEY DON'T SELL AND THEY DONATE OR THEY THROW IT AWAY. SO SOME OF THAT COMES FROM EXCESS ALREADY. SOME OF THE NEWER FARMERS, WHICH, UM, SOME OF THEM ARE HERE IN SEDONA AS WELL. UM, SMALLER FARMERS, THEY WILL WANT TO INVEST IN MORE AND THAT WILL BE UP TO THEM TO, TO DO THAT. SO IT'S ONLY GONNA BE IN EFFECT FOR A FEW MONTHS, A YEAR WHERE THEY'RE PRODUCING FRESH PRODUCE? NO, UM, THEY'VE GOT GREENHOUSES OR, UH, YES, SOME HAVE GREENHOUSES. UM, WE HAVE, SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SUPPLEMENT THE FOOD WE'RE ALREADY GETTING MM-HMM. , IT'S NOT JUST, WE'LL BUY WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE. MM-HMM. , THE FOOD THAT WE GET FROM, UH, ST. MARY'S PARTICULARLY, BUT UH, FROM SOME RESCUE AS WELL, IS PREDOMINANTLY SHELF STABLE FOOD. MM-HMM. , THAT'S WHAT TRAVELS WELL FROM PHOENIX. SO WE GET A TON OF ROOT VEGETABLES. WE GET, UM, A LOT OF FROZEN. WE GET FROZEN FRUITS. WHAT WE DON'T GET, THE MAIN THING THAT'S MISSING IS LEAFY GREENS, MORE DELICATE GREENS. MM-HMM. . UM, SO THAT IS ONE OF THE FOCUSES HERE, PLUS THE, THE MEATS. UM, SO FOR DELICATE GREENS, WE HAVE I THINK EIGHT GROWERS THAT HAVE INDOOR GROWING VERDE VALLEY RIDE. EIGHT, EIGHT OR NINE. SO THEY CAN GROW YEAR ROUND. SO THEY GROW EITHER HYDROPONICALLY, UH, OR UNDER GROW LIGHTS THAT AREN'T AFFECTED BY, YOU KNOW, SEASONALITY. SO THOSE ARE MORE, YOU'RE SMALLER, MORE DELICATE GREENS, BABY ARUGULA, BABY LETTUCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING. THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T GET. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT COMPLETES SORT OF A NUTRITIONAL PROFILE FOR OUR DISTRIBUTIONS. MM-HMM. , WHERE DO I SIGN UP? WELL, THE DOOR DASH ONE BE ON THIS MO HEALTH. I'VE NEVER SEEN THE MO HEALTH BEFORE, BUT THAT'S VERY NICE FOR FOLKS. YEAH. OR WILL IT JUST BE FOR PEOPLE WHO CALL IN? NOPE. IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE ON THIS. YEP. YOU CAN REQUEST. SO IF YOU'RE ON THERE AND YOU CLICK VERDE VALLEY AND THEN CLICK, UM, SEDONA, YOU WILL SEE A, UH, HOME DELIVERY REQUEST. AND THE MO DOES IT STAND FOR MANZANITA OUTREACH? SORT OF A PLAY ON WORDS. MORE HELP. VERY GOOD. MORE HELP IN MANZA OUTREACH. I LIKE IT. REMIND, IT WAS ABOUT AS CLEVER AS I COULD GET. REMIND ME OF THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU EXPECT TO SERVE IN SONOMA. YEAH, SO I HAVE THAT TWO 14. SO FOR THE, UM, COMMUNITY FOOD SHARING, WHICH IS WHAT WE GENERALLY CALL OUR GENERAL MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DRIVE THROUGH OR WHATEVER, THIS WILL BE HOME DELIVERY. THAT'S, UM, WE ESTIMATE, UM, 173 HOUSEHOLDS, 551 ADULTS, 998 CHILDREN. YEAH. YOU HAD 1321 TOTAL HERE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WRONG. I ACTUALLY SAW THAT WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS. I THINK THE CORRECT TOTAL IS 9 43, UM, ON THERE. UH, SO I, I ACTUALLY, I WAS REVIEWING IT TODAY. I WAS LIKE, I THINK I DIDN'T COPY THAT INCORRECTLY, BUT I HAVE A, I HAVE THE SPREADSHEET FROM OUR ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE LOOKING BETWEEN BOTH PROGRAMS, MOPAC FOR TEACHERS AND COMMUNITY FOOD SHARING. 9 43. I'M ESTIMATING BASED ON WHAT, UM, ELIZABETH HAS GIVEN ME AND JENNIFER HAS GIVEN ME ON THEIR, UH, FROM THE SCHOOLS ABOUT A 45% CROSSOVER BETWEEN BOTH PROGRAMS. SO THOSE AREN'T MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE NUMBERS. [04:40:01] OH, OKAY. A LOT OF THE FAMILIES THAT WILL RECEIVE FOOD ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE KIDS THAT ARE IN THE SCHOOL. SO I WAS TRYING TO BE MORE ACCURATE. I HAD ABOUT 45%, UM, CROSSOVER. SO THE CORRECT NUMBER, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 266 HOUSEHOLDS, UM, 303 ADULTS, 943 KIDS. LET ME JUST DO MATH 303 PLUS 943 1,246. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WAS ON THERE OR NOT. I THINK IT WAS LIKE, WELL, IT'S CLOSE. IT'S CLOSE. SO YEAH. YEAH. I'M USING OUR ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION NUMBERS, AND THEN I GET NUMBERS FROM THE SCHOOL EVERY YEAR ON ENROLLMENT WHEN, UH, AFTER A FEW YEARS THAT, THAT FEW MONTHS AFTER THE SCHOOL STARTS TO SORT OF ESTIMATE IT. BUT IT'S IN THAT BALLPARK. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? UM, CAN YOU GIVE US A GOOD DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT'S ELSE IS AVAILABLE? YEAH. UM, FAMILIES THAT ARE CHALLENGED BY FOOD. SURE. GENERALLY WE DISTRIBUTE MORE FOOD TO EACH FAMILY. MM-HMM. . UM, THAT'S ONE THING. UM, WE DO IT AT TIMES. OUR STRATEGY IS TO DO IT AT TIMES, THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE MOST CONVENIENT. UM, AND, UH, SO THAT REACHES SOME MANY OF THE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. UM, WE CERTAINLY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PROJECT, HAS A, HAVE A FOCUS ON THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, DOMINGUEZ UNION HISPANIC CLUB, IMMACULATE CONCEPTION CHURCH. UM, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH YAVAPAI COLLEGE AND A FEW OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO BUILD THE NUTRITIONAL PROGRAM PART OF THIS, UM, WHICH WILL BE TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH AS WELL. SO I, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEALTHIER FOOD. IT'S NOT JUST WHAT IS AVAILABLE. IT'S SPECIFICALLY I'M TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT FOR MY FAMILY AND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, UH, HEALTHY FOOD SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU. SO THE NUTRITION IS HIGHER, PRETTY OBJECTIVELY, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A PER FAMILY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE IT IS BETTER. WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S BETTER. I THINK IT'S SUPPLEMENTAL. WHAT SEDONA FOOD BANK DOES IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. MM-HMM. , IT JUST DOESN'T, NO ONE ORGANIZATION CAN DO THE WHOLE THING. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THEY OPERATE AND THEY HAVE THEIR CLIENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY RELIGIOUS ABOUT GOING THERE. I I KNOW MANY OF THEM. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T FILL ALL THE GAPS. RIGHT. SO I DON'T, OKAY. YEAH. SO I, THERE'S A DIFFERENTIATION, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY SUPPLEMENTAL. WHAT, WHAT GAPS ARE, WHAT GAPS. THE REASON WE'RE ASKING IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HOLISTIC PICTURE OF MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, HOW ALL THIS WHOLE, THE FOOD ASSISTANCE WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM. , UH, SO WHAT ARE THE GAPS THAT YOU SEE IN THE, IN WHAT? THE FOOD BANK? WORKING HOURS FOR TIMES FOR WORKING FAMILY. SO IT IS ACCESSIBILITY. ACCESSIBILITY IS A GAP. OKAY. VERY GOOD. VERY OBJECTIVELY. OKAY. IF YOU ARE, THAT'S A DOUBLE INCOME FAMILY WITH KIDS, YOU KNOW, OKAY. YOU HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF TO STAND AND GET FOOD AND GET A TICKET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. MOST MANY FAMILIES DON'T. OKAY. UM, AND THEN A HOME BOUND SENIORS IS ANOTHER GAP FOR HOME DELIVERIES. MM-HMM. , UH, AND THAT YOU, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT A GAP, I JUST THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY NOT TO BE PUTTING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY JUNK FOOD. UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S HELPFUL. UM, I DON'T THINK IT SERVES ANYBODY ANY GOOD. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S A GAP OR NOT, I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON. AND WHAT, WHAT'S JUNK FOOD? HOW IS JUNK FOOD, EMPTY CALORIE FOOD? UH, SO NO, I KNOW WHAT JUNK FOOD IS, BUT HOW, HOW IS, HOW IS JUNK FOOD GETTING OUT INTO THE, IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT SOME OF THESE, UM, AS FOOD ASSISTANCE PLACES GET? WELL, IT'S WHAT WE DISTRIBUTED UP UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. OKAY. WHEN WE STOPPED. AND IT'S WHAT IS GENERALLY AVAILABLE. UHHUH, , I'M NOT TO PUT ANY NAMES, BUT IT'S OVERLY PROCESSED FOOD THAT JUST IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES OUT OF DATE OR CLOSE TO GOING OUT OF DATE. THAT'S WHAT TRADITIONALLY IS IN FOOD PANTRIES, IS THESE DONATED STUFF THAT ISN'T SOLD MM-HMM. . AND SO, UM, THAT'S, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE ON THAT AND FIND THESE FEDERAL AND STATE DOLLARS TO, TO INVEST INTO OUR AGRICULTURAL SYSTEM. GOOD. ANOTHER QUESTION IS THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE MISSION DOWN IN, UM, COTTONWOOD HAS ALSO APPLIED FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE. I MEAN, FOOD, MONEY TO, UM, HELP FUND FOOD ASSISTANCE THAT GIVE TO SEDONA RESIDENTS. MY SUSPICION WOULD'VE BEEN THE HOURS OF OPERATION THEY COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, GET TO LIKE THE FOOD PANTRY WE HAVE HERE OR WHATEVER. DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR FOOD, HOW THEY WOULD BE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY? UM, I COULD GUESS, BUT I, NO GUESS. GOOD. JUST GUESS. I'M GUESSING THAT THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE OVER THERE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT OPEN UP. THEY HAVE A RESOURCE CENTER AND [04:45:01] THEY'RE MORE OF A WHOLE ONE STOP SHOP SORT OF PLACE. THEY HAVE HAIRCUTS AND LEGAL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE HOURS OF OPERATION. THEY HAVE HOT MEALS, THEY HAVE MORE SHOWERS, THEY HAVE MORE HOURS OF OPERATION. AND SHOWERS. AND SHOWERS. SHOWERS. SO PEOPLE MAY BE GOING DOWN THERE AND JUST AS AN, AN THEY TO HELP FOR OTHER, THE OTHER SERVICES. AND THEN WHILE THEY'RE THERE, THEY GET FOOD. COULD BE THE, WOULD THAT BE THE LOGIC? THAT WOULD BE THE LOGIC. OKAY. OR THEY, YOU KNOW, OR THEY PREFER THE SERVICE OR THEY PREFER THE FOOD. THEY'RE A PARTNER OF ST. MARY'S AGENCY. MM-HMM. , UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT FOOD. THERE'S MORE FOOD. UM, I, YEAH. HELPS. DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA OR GUESSWORK ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE FOREST THAT ARE WORKING? I WAS JUST ASKED THIS YESTERDAY. I DON'T KNOW. . I KNOW THAT I HAD JUST HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR CLIENTS THAT THEY'RE CLOSING DOWN SOME OF THE AREAS ON BILL GRAY. MM-HMM. . UM, SO I KNOW SOME OF THOSE, UM, SOME PEOPLE OVER THERE THAT ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING, FIGURING OUT WHERE TO PARK. I KNOW THAT THE, UH, THE PARK OVER IN, UM, SO DEAD HORSE, THE, THE LOTS OVER THERE, THOSE ARE GETTING FILLED UP. MM-HMM. , I KNOW THAT THE, UM, COTTONWOOD CAMP VERDE RV, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM COMMUNITIES. THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH FILLED UP. UM, BUT HOW MANY ARE JUST LIKE OUT ON NATIONAL FOREST LANDS? I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER ON THAT. I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE DOING MORE, STARTING AT ABOUT THIS TIME WHEN IT STARTED TO GET HOT LAST YEAR WHEN GAS, IF YOU REMEMBER, GAS WENT OUT A LOT. AROUND THIS TIME WE HAD A LOT OF 5 25 DELIVERIES. UM, HOME, HOME DELIVERIES OUT THERE TO, OUT TO 5 25. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I TOOK ONE ROUTE OF 10 OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS WORD OF MOUTH. RIGHT. IT WAS LIKE, YOU CALL THIS NUMBER AND THEY'LL BRING YOU FOOD. AND SO YEAH. WE WERE GOING OUT THERE A LOT LAST SUMMER. UM, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER. I'M SORRY. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NO, THIS IS ALL VERY HELPFUL. THANK, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE THE NUMBER, BUT I HAVE HEARD A COUPLE, I MEAN, JUST ANCILLARY TO THAT, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, BE THE, UH, TWO WEEK RULE BEING ENFORCED MORE. I HAVE HEARD THAT MORE. AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT A COUPLE CLOSURES OF ROADS. MM-HMM. . SO YEAH. GOING BACK TO THE, UH, SEDONA, UH, LARGELY HISPANIC COMMUNITY, THE LOW INCOME WORKING FAMILIES, UM, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL WAYS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT. YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS, THIS PROGRAM OF HOME DELIVERIES RIGHT. ON SATURDAYS. COULD I ALSO KIND OF SUGGEST YOU DIDN'T MENTION LIKE, TO DEAL WITH THE EMPLOYERS IN THE SEDONA AREA, THAT, THAT REALLY NEED TO HAVE, UH, BILINGUAL SIGNS UP YEAH. AND WORD OF MOUTH AND DIRECTING THEM TO THIS. I'M AFRAID THAT, UM, THIS MIGHT BE, EVEN THIS WEBSITE LOOKS LOVELY AND EASY TO USE. YEAH. MIGHT BE KIND OF PRETTY INTIMIDATING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. I, I AGREE. SO I HAVE A CALL NEXT WEEK WITH THE ARIZONA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. GREAT. MY HOPE INSTEAD OF COLD CALLING BUSINESSES, THIS IS NOT JUST SEDONA, THIS IS VERY VALLEY WIDE, BUT INCLUDING SEDONA WAS TO GET SOME, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP OR GET A LIST FROM THEM OR GET INCLUDED ON AN, LIKE A EMAIL NEWSLETTER. WE WOULD WANT THAT. I WOULD THINK SO. BUT, UH, YEAH. WE'LL SEE. I, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE MY CALL NEXT WEEK, BUT THAT WAS MY, MY SENTIMENT THERE. OKAY. AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK WE'LL COLD CALL. WE HAVE MANY VOLUNTEERS HERE THAT I'M SURE WE WOULD TAKE FLYERS AROUND. PUT 'EM OUT TOO. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. GREAT JOB, BEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? NO, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. NO. HOW'S THE SNACK THING GOING? ARE, ARE THOSE, ARE THE TEACHERS BURNING THROUGH THE SNACK PACKS? UM, THEY ARE BURNING THROUGH THEM. NO, NOT, NO. THEY ARE NOT BURNING THROUGH THEM. NO, I MEAN, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT IN A DEROGATORY WAY. OH, OKAY. I TOOK A DEROGATORY STARTED. CAUSE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS ARE, I STARTED, SOME OF THE SCHOOLS ARE JUST LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOLS. OH MY GOSH. THOSE KIDS EAT SO MUCH. . UM, YEAH. THE, THE AFTER WE'VE, NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN AT EACH SCHOOL FOR A FULL YEAR, I THINK THE TEACHERS AND STAFF REALIZE THAT WE'RE GONNA COME BACK. THAT WAS PART OF IT WHEN WE FIRST GET TO A SCHOOL, THAT THEY'LL TAKE ALL OF THE SNACKS LIKE IMMEDIATELY. AND SO I HAD A SENSE THEY WERE KIND OF HOARDING IT WITH THE THINKING THAT WE MIGHT NOT COME BACK. WHICH, YOU KNOW, SO ACTUALLY THE, THE MONTH OVER MONTH HAS DECREASED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOLS SPECIFICALLY. UM, AND, AND REALLY WITH WEST SEDONA TOO, IT'S, IT'S GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. UM, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S, IT SOLVES A PROBLEM FOR THEM. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO IT AND MM-HMM. . UM, BUT SO THEY'RE, THEY, DO THEY USE THEM? MM-HMM. ? I KNOW THEY USE 'EM RESPONSIBLY. YOU WOULDN'T REDO THAT, BUT I, THEY THEY DO USE THEM. AND SO YOU'RE, YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD INVENTORY NUMBER, LIKE SEDDON, WEST SEDONA SCHOOL, LET'S SAY. I THINK THEY HAVE 24 TEACHERS. MM-HMM. . UM, WE HAVE A GOOD INVENTORY NUMBER AT EVERY SCHOOL. WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE NEED TO KEEP AT THE SCHOOL. YES. SO THAT IT [04:50:01] DOESN'T, UH, OVERWHELM THEIR TEACHER'S, UH, LOUNGE, BUT THAT THEY DON'T RUN OUT. AND THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MITIGATE IS, IS THAT, SO I THINK THEIR NUMBER'S LIKE 20, UM, THEY GET 20 BOXES A MONTH AND THAT'S, THEY USE ABOUT 16 TO 18 MM-HMM. , UH, EVERY MONTH. SO THERE'S A FEW LEFT AT THE END OF THE MONTH THAT WE JUST GO AND, AND RESTOCK. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR COMING AGAIN. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. GREAT JOB. WATCH YOUR CREATIVITY. I KNOW, IT'S FUN. I CAN'T WAIT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT MORE OF THE FARMING PROJECTS TOO. YEAH. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SEDONA FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN . THANK YOU GUYS. TAKE CARE. TODAY. HE IS, WHEN I WAS DOING MY BACKPACK RESEARCH THERE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, MONTH AGO, YOU KNOW, I JUST KIND OF CALLED UP THE MANZANITA CUZ I KNEW THAT THEY HAD SUPPLIED BACKPACKS FOR EVERY KID IN WESTED LAST YEAR. AND SO, AND HE ANSWERS THE PHONE. I MEAN, HE ANSWERED THE PHONE. I WAS JUST AMAZED AND WAS VERY GRACIOUS. HELPFUL. YEAH. HE IS. HE IS JUST A VERY GRACIOUS GUY. GUY. YEAH. REALLY. OKAY. BACKING RIGHT UP IS THE SEDONA. YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE HOSPITAL. OH, INTERESTING. I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THEY RECORDED. WELL, I DON'T, LAST TIME THEY RAN, CAUSE I ASKED THEM YEARS AND I'LL ASK THEM AGAIN. ASK THEM AGAIN. BECAUSE I REALLY WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY KEPT PRETTY CLOSE RECORDS. I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN HERE, UM, UH, YOU'VE BEEN HERE, UM, CHRISTINE MM-HMM. . BUT WE'VE ASKED THEM IF THEY ASK AND THEY SAY, NO, WE KNOW IT BECAUSE IT'S THE DIGNITY THING. AM I, OH, I, I DON'T REMEMBER BECAUSE THEY WERE AFTER, UM, UM, REFRIGERATORS AND STUFF. UHHUH. SO IT WAS MORE ALL CAPITAL. I WENT OVER THERE ONE DAY DURING FOOD DISTRIBUTION MORNING, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. AND EVERY PERSON WHO WAS STANDING IN LINE SIGNED UP AND SIGNED IN AND THEY YEAH. AND THEY LOOKED AT, LOOKED AT RECORDS AND THEY LIKE, LIKE, YOU COULD HAVE THREE OF THESE AND YOU COULD HAVE TWO OF THESE. AND I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS MY IMPRESSION AT LEAST, SIR. OKAY. WELL MAYBE IT CHANGED WITH THE NEW DIRECTOR AND I JUST AM NOT REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. LET ME ASK HIM AGAIN. I'LL JUST ASK HIM HOW HE TRACK. I'LL, I'LL JUST ASK HIM. HOW DO YOU TRACK? RIGHT. THANK YOU. I MET MM-HMM. . OKAY, WE'RE READY NOW. HI. HELLO. HI, I'M KATHLEEN WITH THE FOOD BANK AND YOU KNOW JANE AND THIS IS LAURA. SHE'S OUR COMMUNITY. HI, HOW ARE YOU? I'LL JUST SIT HERE. ALRIGHT, I'M FINE. I HAVE A BIG MOUTH. . YOU ALL KNOW . GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. IAN, GOOD TO SEE YOU. OKAY. NEED FURNITURE? YES. YES, WE DO. WE DO FOR OUR NEW BUILDING AFTER SO MANY YEARS. AND WHERE IS YOUR NEW BUILDING NOW? 30 INSPIRATIONAL DRIVE. OKAY. SO LET'S SIT DOWN AND GRASSHOPPER FLAT. ISN'T THAT GRASSHOPPER FLAT? YES. OH, IS THAT OKAY? I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT'S WHAT THEY CALLED. YEAH. THE OLD TIMERS THAT , I WAS THINKING THIS SECTION OFF OF, UH, 89 A IN THE CANYON, GRASSHOPPER, GRASSHOPPER POINT, GRASSHOPPER, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT CAME UP AND, UH, PATTY AND I WERE NOT REMEMBERING. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS A WHILE. UM, HOW DO YOU GUYS TRACK THE INDIVIDUALS WHO COME IN? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE FROM? AND WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED FOOD BANK MANAGER. OKAY. AND WE REGISTER, UH, ANYBODY WHO COMES IN AND THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT A REGISTRATION FORM AND IT TELLS US THEIR NAME, THEIR ADDRESS, THEIR BIRTHDATE, THEIR PHONE NUMBER, AND, UM, THAT'S HOW WE PUT IT IN THE, IN THE COMPUTER. EXCELLENT. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THAT? JUST SO I DON'T, PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BACK. OH, ALRIGHT. I'VE HAD THIS A LONG TIME TOO. , WE JUST HAD LITTLE GREEN CARDS THAT WE DID MANUALLY MM-HMM. AND DID ALL THE INFORMATION MANUALLY UNTIL WE GOT THIS COMPUTER PROGRAM. YEAH. WELL, EVEN BEFORE THAT NOBODY WAS ASKING ANYBODY ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE DIGNITY THING. YES. IS THAT CORRECT? AM I REMEMBERING THAT PROPERLY? [04:55:01] I GUESS I JUST HAVEN'T ASKED. WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ASKING. WELL, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH. OKAY. WELL, YOU'RE TOO NEW, BUT YOU REMEMBER RIGHT? YEAH. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2012. YEAH. SO. RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO I'M NOT TOTALLY CRAZY . OKAY. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. UM, PAMELA, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I GOT MY YAYA OUT. NOTHING. WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE OUT OF YOUR, UM, NEW LOCATION OTHER THAN THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION? IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME, UH, AS, AS WE DO NOW OUT OF THE CHURCH. MM-HMM. , BUT DOWN THE ROAD WE'D LIKE TO INSTITUTE MORE PROGRAMS. LIKE MAYBE WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMEONE IN TO CUT PEOPLE'S HAIR IF THEY NEED THAT. MM-HMM. , UM, ANY KIND OF SERVICES THAT WE COULD, CAN HELP THEM WITH THAT THAT, THAT THEY DON'T NEED OR THAT THEY NEED OR MAYBE CAN'T AFFORD SHOWER. OKAY. NO, NO. NOT SHOWERS. NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ONE TO, TO, UM, UM, REGULATE THAT IF WE HAD OVERNIGHT GUESTS OR ANYTHING MM-HMM. . UM, AND, AND WE HAD TO PUT IN, UM, AN ADA, UH, COMPLIANT BATHROOM. MM-HMM. , BUT THAT WAS A SHOWER WAS NOT REQUIRED ANYTHING. MM-HMM. . AND WHAT HOURS DO YOU OPERATE? UM, EVERY DAY. WE'RE THERE FROM SEVEN UNTIL NOON. MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY. OKAY. UH, WE'RE CLOSED ON FRIDAYS AND ON, UH, WEDNESDAY DISTRIBUTION WE'RE THERE FROM EIGHT 30 TO NOON AND THEN FROM THREE 30 TO FIVE 30. OKAY. SO WE HAVE TWO DISTRIBUTIONS ON WEDNESDAY. OH, OKAY. AFTERNOON AS WELL. I WASN'T YES. AS WELL IN THE MORNING. SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE IF THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY CAN'T GET THERE IN THE MORNING, BUT THEY CAN COME IN THE AFTERNOON. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT MANZANITA WOULD, IS GONNA TRY TO DO MORE OF THE HOME DELIVERY KIND OF THING ON SATURDAYS. OKAY. WELL, WE DO HOME DELIVERIES ONCE A MONTH. UH, SECOND MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH WE DO HOME DELIVERIES. CAN WE ALSO DELIVER TO A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE ON WEDNESDAY? WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE THAT WE DELIVER TO ON A WEDNESDAY AND ALSO VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS. MM-HMM. COMES IN AND THEY PICK UP FOR A FEW CLIENTS ON A WEDNESDAY AS WELL. OKAY. SO WE'RE REACHING PEOPLE AT THEIR HOME AS WELL. OKAY. ARE THERE, WHO THE, THE HOME DELIVERIES, WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS? SENIORS. SENIORS. OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY BALLARD CAREGIVERS IS A GOOD PARTNER THERE. MM-HMM. ? YES. OKAY. GOOD. MM-HMM. . YEAH. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A, GET A FULL PICTURE OF EVERYTHING GOES GOING. AND THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT, UH, UH, WHAT ELSE YOU DECIDED YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE OPERATING OUT OF THAT YOU WOULD NEVER BE OPERATING ANY, UH, FEE-BASED SERVICE OR, OH, NO. OKAY. NO, NO, NO. UHUH, NO. VERY GOOD. NOTHING LIKE THAT. JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT ELSE THE FURNITURE WOULD BE USEFUL USED FOR. BECAUSE WE, THE, THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THAT TYPICALLY THE, UH, CITY GRANT MONEY, IT CANNOT BE USED FOR CAPITAL EXPENSE. MM-HMM. AND YOUR FURNITURE WOULD BE CAPITAL EXPENSE. BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE KIND OF DRAWN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DISCUSSING ABOUT HOW WE CAN BEST, UM, CONVEY CUZ THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE ASKED FOR CAPITAL MONIES THAT, UM, THAT COULD PICK THOSE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED TO GENERATE REVENUE OTHERWISE MM-HMM. WHEREAS LIKE IF FURNITURE CAN'T, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALMOST THE ONLY DISTINCTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN EASILY DRAW BETWEEN THOSE TWO TYPES OF CAPITAL REQUESTS. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, AGAIN, I MEAN IF, IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. SURE. IT'S JUST THAT IF THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOUR FURNISHING IS GONNA EVER BE ABLE TO, TO UH, SERVE AS A REVENUE GENERATION NO, NO, THEN THAT WOULD DISTINGUISH FROM THE OTHER CAPITAL REQUEST WE RECEIVED. SURE. OKAY. WELL, YEARS AGO THE, UM, THE UH, CITY GRANT WE REQUESTED REFRIGERATORS AND THE FREEZERS. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND UH, I MEAN THAT WE JUST NEED THAT FOR OUR DAILY OPERATION. WELL, NO, BUT THAT, I MEAN THAT'S DEFINITELY FOOD AND ONLY FOOD, YOU KNOW, EVEN SO I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT EVER CAME UP REALLY THEN IN OUR ORBIT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING NEW THAT, YOU KNOW, POPS UP THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IN A POLICY FOR SURE. UM, AND I'M SURE IT DOES IN YOUR BUSINESS AS WELL. UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS, UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE CARTS, UM, WE WILL BE USING FOR OUR CLIENTS MM-HMM. WHEN THEY DO THEIR, UH, ONCE A MONTH SHOPPING CUZ WE SET UP THIS, UH, PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN SHOP FOR THEMSELVES MM-HMM. , UM, AND THEY ONLY DO THAT ONCE A MONTH, TYPICALLY ONCE A MONTH. YEAH. OKAY. BUT, BUT THEY, BUT THEY CAN COME IN THE, ALL THE REST OF THE, EVERY OTHER WEEK. RIGHT. AND BY GET PRODUCE AND BREADS AND PASTRIES AND WE DO HAVE SOME SHELF STABLE ITEMS FOR THEM TO TAKE AS WELL. OKAY. UM, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE THE METAL WORK TABLE, UM, IS FOR OUR, OUR PREPARING THE FOOD MM-HMM. MM-HMM. , UM, THAT WE GET READY FOR DISTRIBUTION. UM, OUR [05:00:01] SECURITY SYSTEM. WE FEEL THAT WE, WE NEED A SECURITY SYSTEM, UM, ON OUR BUILDING. MM-HMM. , UM, WHAT ELSE HERE? UH, WASHER AND DRYER. UH, KATHLEEN BRINGS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WASHED HOME AND, AND WASHES THEM. SO IF WE HAVE A WASHER AND DRYER, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT OUR OURSELVES. MM-HMM. KELLY WON'T HAVE TO BRING THOSE HOME. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF, UH, THINGS THAT WE WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT, THAT WE FEEL, UM, ARE NEEDED FOR THIS NEW BUILDING. NO, WE RECOGNIZE IT'S COM IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO PROVIDE. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . AND, UH, THERE AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE WANNA TRY TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY IT IS WE'RE MM-HMM. ASKING THE QUESTIONS. MM-HMM. . YEAH. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE GETTING OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANNA SHARE WITH US? WE WANNA SHARE OUR NEW ADDITION OF OUR NEWSLETTER. OH, OKAY. WITH EVERYONE. I MADE ABOUT FOUR COPIES AND IT'S A LITTLE LONG. UM, BUT IT, IT'S GOT BEAUTIFUL PICTURES AND GREAT INFORMATION. WHAT, WHAT, SO IT'S A GOOD READ. WHAT'S, UH, THE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMUNICATION TOOL? WE SEND IT OUT TO ALL OF OUR DONORS, TO ALL OUR VOLUNTEERS. IT'S JUST A QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER THAT WE SEND OUT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE FOOD BANK. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. MM-HMM. . AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THAT. PEOPLE ARE REALLY ENJOYING IT. THAT'S GOOD. UM, SO, AND, AND THAT KEEPS THEM IN TOUCH, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE OUR DONORS CUZ THEY LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY MONEY? YEAH. THERE YOU GO. WE'RE FEEDING PEOPLE. NO, THAT'S GREAT. WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER? IT'S PRETTY FLASHY, PRETTY IT ALL FLASHY. VERY ATTRACTIVE, ISN'T IT? THANK YOU. YEAH. SEE DIDN'T YOU DO THE CAR CLUB ONE FOR A WHILE? I DID THE CAR CLUB. I WAS GONNA SAY . NICE FORMATTING. NICE . OH GOSH LADIES, EXCELLENT JOB. I YOU SHOULDER A LOT. OH, KATHLEEN, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? WE WOULD SURE APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD FUND THAT. BECAUSE THE REASON WHY YOU GOT THE WE REQUESTED THEM FROM YOU IS BECAUSE THESE ARE LARGE TICKET ITEMS. WE CHOSE THE SMALLER TICKET ITEMS AND WE PUT THAT ON AN AMAZON WISHLIST. MM-HMM. BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN DONATE LIKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO HELP US WITH THE BUILDING, BUT IF THEY COULD BUY A STAINLESS STEEL BOWL, THEY'RE HELPING US. SO INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU A LIST OF LIKE 35 ITEMS, WE THOUGHT MAYBE THE CITY COULD DO THE LARGER ONES. I DIDN'T EVEN, WE DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED CAPITAL. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING TO DO OUR SERVICE. AND IT AND, AND YOU CAN'T DO THE SERVICE WITHOUT OUR NO, WE CAN'T BECAUSE ALL THOSE TABLES SURE. BELONG TO THE CHURCH. THE CHAIRS BELONG TO THE CHURCH. SO THE KITCHEN THAT THEY HAVE, THAT'S THEIRS. I, I CAN'T HAUL AWAY THEIR ISLAND . SO ANYWAYS, SO THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR THE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS. WE THOUGHT THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT WITH THAT. AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS REALLY HELPED US WITH OUR AMAZON WISHLIST. WE STARTED OFF WITH ALMOST $4,000 WORTH OF REQUESTS AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO $800. OH, EXCELLENT. SO PEOPLE ARE REALLY REACHING OUT AND REALLY HAVING FUN SHOPPING FOR US AND BUYING THOSE BOWLS AND THOSE DRAWER DIVIDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I SURE. HOPE YOU CAN HELP US OUT. NO, NO, WE GET IT. BELIEVE ME. IF I THANK YOU, IF THERE ARE A PRO, IF WE COULDN'T JUSTIFY IT, THEN I JUST HAVE TO BE SURE THAT OUR, OUR LOGIC IS SOUND THROUGHOUT OKAY. AND THAT WE APPLY IT EQUALLY TO EVERYBODY, OF COURSE. AND THAT THAT'S THE ONLY CONSIDERATION. SOMEBODY'S GONNA WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S A CAP, THAT'S AN ASSET OVER THERE. WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY ASSET OVER HERE? WELL, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. SO WE HAVE TO DRAW A DISTINCTION. OKAY. , IT REMINDS ME VERY MUCH THAT WE WON'T BE CHATTING ABOUT HOW, HOW WE WANTED TO APPLY AND WHAT WE WANTED TO APPLY FOR THIS YEAR. WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS WAS COMING TO MIND SORT OF, BECAUSE IT WAS VERY SIMILAR IN A LOT OF WAYS TO LAST YEAR'S REQUEST, WHERE WE HAD THE, THE SHELVING AND ALL OF THE FURNISHINGS TO, UH, UM, UH, TO, TO DO OUR SELF SHOPPING. THE SHOPPING. YEAH. IT WAS THE SHOPPING PRODUCE REMINDS ME VERY MUCH OF, OF THAT REQUEST FROM LAST YEAR. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER IF YOU WERE A A, A FAMILY IN NEED OF FOOD. MM-HMM. , HOW DOES SEDONA FOOD BANK WORK INTO YOUR WEEKLY FULFILLMENT OF NEED? WELL, THEY CAN COME IN EVERY WEEK, LIKE WE SAID, ONCE A MONTH. THEY GET A BOX, UH, EVERY OTHER WEEK BESIDES GETTING THE BOX. THEY GET THE PRODUCE, THEY GET BREAD, THEY GET, [05:05:01] I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW THERE'S OTHER PLACES, YOU KNOW, MANZANITA OLD TOWN MISSION. OKAY. I CAN TELL YOU WHY. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW ST. ANDREWS FOR DINNER. RIGHT. OKAY. SO YOU COULD GO TO ST. ANDREWS FOR DINNER. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. UM, WHAT I PERSONALLY LIKE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'VE GIVEN OUR CLIENT THE DIGNITY OF CHOICE. YOU ARE NOT DRIVING UP AND GETTING A BOX. AND THAT MIGHT BE REALLY GOOD FOR SOME PEOPLE. RIGHT. BUT MY CLIENTS ARE SO EXCITED TO GO DOWN THAT AISLE AND LOOK AT THESE BAKED BEANS OR LOOK AT THE KETCHUP AND THEY CAN CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT. THEY ARE NOT BEING DRIVEN INTO WHAT I HAVE. THAT'S ONCE A MONTH. SO THAT'S WHY. AND THAT, THAT THEY CAN DO THAT ONCE A MONTH. AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR PRODUCE. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. IT IS LIKE VISITING A FARMER'S MARKET AND THEY START AT THE TOP AND THEY WALK DOWN THIS ASSEMBLY LINE. THIS MORNING WE PROBABLY OPENED UP WITH ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT KINDS OF PRODUCE. THEY LOVE IT AND IT'S A FREEDOM OF CHOICE. MM-HMM. . AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE WHAT THEY WANT. SO THAT'S WHY WE DO THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON DISTRIBUTION, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE, LIKE JANE SAYS, THAT ARE WORKING IN THE HOTELS. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE TEACHERS. MM-HMM. , THEY WORK AT HA ROOFING. THAT WAS A NEW CUSTOMER I GOT LAST WEEK FROM HA ROOFING. HE WAS THERE. SO THAT'S WHY WE WORK ALSO IN THE AFTERNOON. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. UM, COULD I MEET, COULD I MEET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MY NEED THROUGH YOU? A HUNDRED PERCENT. WE COULD NOT FEED YOUR FAMILY FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH, BUT WHAT WE WILL GIVE YOU IS A BUMP. WE WILL HELP YOU THROUGH THAT MONTH. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO GET, PAY YOUR PHONE BILL AND THEN THE FOOD BANK COMES IN AND WE'RE TAKING CARE OF YOU. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS. ARE WE GONNA FEED A FAMILY OF FOUR FOR ALL FOUR WEEKS OF THE MONTH? NO, BUT WE CERTAINLY ARE GONNA MAKE A DENT IN YOUR BUDGET. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS LADIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US EXTRA TIME. NO, IT'S GOOD TO SEE. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING US. OH MY GOD. APPRECIATE IT. AND ALL THE SUPPORT YOU REALLY HAVE BEEN. WONDERFUL. AND KATHLEEN, KATHLEEN SAID VINCENT, HIS OBITUARY WAS IN THE PAPER TODAY. OH MY. THEY'RE HAVING A MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR HIM IN JULY. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. YES. OKAY. WOULD THAT BE IN THE CAR CLUB INFORMATION? UM, I'LL SEND IT TO DAVID AS WELL. DAVID'S OUTTA TOWN RIGHT NOW. DAVID'S OUTTA TOWN. I'LL SEND IN A COUPLE WEEKS, SEND IT TO OKAY. WILL DO. OKAY, THANKS. OH GOOD. WE'RE GETTING A GOOD PICTURE SO WE CAN JUSTIFY ALL MM-HMM. , JUST GIVE ME A REASON. YES. OH, WHEN WE GOT OLD TOWN MISSION, RIGHT BEHIND . RIGHT IN A WRONG HERE. FOOD, FOOD, FOOD. RIGHT. YEAH, IT'S GOING WELL. YEAH, THAT IS SO, YEAH, IT IS. YEAH. HELLO. HI. HI. HELLO. HI LADIES. HELLO. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HAVE A SEAT. HI. TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, IF YOU WILL. ABSOLUTELY. UM, I, MY NAME'S KELLY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OLD TOWN MISSION. UM, ABSOLUTELY LOVE SUED. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. OH, SO YOU GUYS KNOW THE AREA? RED ROCK LOOP ROAD, ELMERS. I'M IN ELMERS ROCK LOOP. THAT'S ME. . AWESOME. SO MARKING BIRD LANE. ALRIGHT. YES, I DO. I WAS TELLING TAMMY ON THE WAY HERE, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ANY OF THE TOURIST SPOTS. AND WE JUST WENT BEHIND OUR HOUSE AND WALKED. AND ONE TIME I REMEMBER GETTING IN TROUBLE BECAUSE MY DAD'S LIKE, YOU WERE IN KERNVILLE. BUT I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, WE JUST FOLLOWED THE CREEK. WE WERE WALKING ON THE CREEK . AND HE'S LIKE, YEAH, YOU GUYS WALKED ALL THE WAY TO KERNVILLE. SO CREEK. SO YOU'RE STILL IN VILLE, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? MY FAMILY STILL LIVES OUT THERE. MY MOM LIVES OUT THERE AND MY SISTER AND OH WOW, OKAY. OF DIFFERENT RELATIVES. BUT YEAH. BEAUTIFUL AREA. RIDE THROUGH YOUR BACKYARD ALL THE TIME. YES. . TAMMY? I'M TAMMY. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AT OME MISSION AND I'M THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE GRANT. AND SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, I'M HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU DID A GOOD JOB. DID A GOOD JOB. WELL, WE SPENT, UM, WE'VE HAD THREE ORGANIZATIONS COME THROUGH BACK TO BACK. YOU ARE NUMBER THREE. UH, WHO, UH, ALL HELP WITH FOOD INSECURITY, SECURITY. YEAH. AND OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS TRYING TO FIT ALL THE PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER AND GET A COMPLETE PICTURE OF, UM, HOW YOU ALL WORK TOGETHER, WHICH YOU DO. MM-HMM. , UH, BUT UM, IN SATISFYING THE NEEDS OF FOOD INSECURITY [05:10:01] IN, IN THIS, THIS COMMUNITY CAUSE THIS, BUT THIS COMMUNITY IS THE ONLY COMMUNITY WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, FUND PROGRAMS FOR. AND UM, WE HAD QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY DUPLICATION OF SERVICE, BUT I THINK WE FOUND OUT THAT EACH ONE OF YOUR ORGANIZATIONS, UM, UM, FUNCTIONS IN SUCH A WAY TO UM, UH, MEET THE, MEET THE MEET THE NEED. SO CAN YOU TELL US BASED ON, WE HAD BANDS NEEDED IN AND THEN WE HAD JUST THE FOOD BANK JUST LEFT AND THEN THERE'S YOU GUYS. SO HOW DO YOU FOLKS SEE YOURSELVES, UM, SUPPLEMENTING WITHOUT CROSSING OVER THE FOOD INSECURITY IN THIS COMMUNITY? DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT ONE OR, UM, YEAH, I THINK JUST SPEAKING FOR OUR AGENCY, I KNOW WE HAD JUST WRITTEN THE GRANT JUST FOR THE FOOD, UM, PURPOSES, BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO OUR BUILDING, THEY'RE, THEY REALLY CAN GET SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE, THE FOOD AND A LOT OF 'EM DO. BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T NECESSARILY TRACK WHICH EVERY SINGLE CITY THAT THEY'RE FROM. SO WHEN THEY COME IN AND GET A HAIRCUT, UM, THE FREE CLOTHING, UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE INCLUDED INTO IT. COME IN AND GET THE SHOWERS, UM, THE HOT MEALS, WE ARE JUST COUNTING THE NUMBER OF PLATES THAT WE GIVE AWAY. AND IF SOMEONE STOPS IN FOR THE FOOD BANK, THEY CAN ALSO COME INTO THE KIDS SHOP, TAKE THE CLOTHING VOUCHER. BUT A LOT OF THOSE TIMES WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING IT. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A UNIQUE, LIKE WE'RE A SHOPPING EXPERIENCE, SO PEOPLE COME IN AND ARE ABLE TO CHOOSE THE ITEMS THAT THEY CAN USE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. SO WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO SOME OF THE OTHER FOOD BANKS AND JUST KIND OF BRING US THE EXCESS FOOD BECAUSE IT'S ITEMS THAT ARE JUST PRE-PACKED AND THEY CAN'T UTILIZE IT SOURCE MORE OF A SHOPPING. BUT THINK TAMMY MIGHT BE ABLE TO, WELL WE ALSO HAVE, UM, MORE ORGANICS THAN MOST. WE ALSO HAVE MORE, UM, UH, VEGAN OPTIONS. UM, MORE GLUTEN FREE OPTIONS. UM, I, GLUTEN FREE BREAD, VERY POPULAR. UM, AND VERY EXPENSIVE. AND SO PEOPLE THAT NEED TO HAVE SPECIALTY DIET STUFF DON'T NECESSARILY FIND WHAT THEY CAN SAY. SO WE CONSUME ADD FOOD PANTRY. AND SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND A LOT OF WHAT WE GET IS DONATED OR FROM OUR GROCERY RESCUE, WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS, WE HAVE CORPORATE DONATIONS. WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS THAT BENEFIT THE FOOD PANTRY AND THE COMMUNITY MEALS THAT FUNCTION TOGETHER. AND SO WHEN WE, UM, UH, ARE COMPARED SIDE BY SIDE WITH OTHER FOOD PANTRIES, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE SAME OFFERINGS. SO I HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING, I THINK WE'RE SUPPLEMENTING IN OTHER WAYS AND IN WAYS THAT ARE NECESSARILY AVAILABLE IN EVERY PLACE. MM-HMM. AND I HAVE NOTICED WITH, LIKE WITH BEN FOR MANZANIA, WE ARE PART OF ST. MARY'S FEEDING AMERICA FOOD PROGRAMS. BUT I HAVE NOTICED A LOT OF TIMES THAT ST. MARY'S KIND OF THINKS AHEAD ON THOSE OPTIONS IDEAS AND THEY'LL SEND MAYBE BIN SOME SQUASH, BUT THEY'LL SEND US WATERMELON SO THEY'RE NOT SENDING US THE EXACT SAME PALLET OF FOOD BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 20 PALLETS OF SQUASH AT ALL THE DIFFERENT FOOD PANTRIES. BUT THEY'LL SEND KIND OF A VARIETY. SO, UM, THEY'LL SEND US DIFFERENT ITEMS. I KNOW WORKING WITH RISING HOPE THIS WEEK, THEY HAD GOTTEN LIKE BELL PEPPERS, CANTALOUPE. I'M LIKE, MAN, WE DIDN'T GET ANY OF THAT. WE GOT SQUASH, TOMATOES, POTATOES. AND SO I THINK THEY KIND OF, ST MARY'S KIND OF WORKS AHEAD AND THINKS ABOUT THOSE THINGS WHERE KNOWING THAT IF THEY SEND ALL THE SAME ITEMS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE INTERESTING UTILIZED. SO I ALSO THINK THAT WORKS A LITTLE BIT. AND, AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL GET EGGS AND WE'VE GOTTEN MILK, SO IT JUST KIND OF FLUCTUATES. AND WE DO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY PURCHASING THOSE ITEMS CAUSE WE LIKE TO HAVE 'EM ON HAND. AND WE ALWAYS NEED MILK FOR OUR HOMELESS RESOURCE CENTER AND THE HOT MEALS THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, WE ALWAYS HAVE THOSE ITEMS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND EAT. WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? I MEAN, AT WHAT TIME? WHEN CAN PEOPLE COME IN TO DO ALL, ALL THIS STUFF? YEAH, SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY AT TRYING TO DEVELOP A SCHEDULE THAT WORKS AND WORKS SEAMLESS SEAMLESSLY TOGETHER. SO WE ARE OPEN FIVE DAYS A WEEK. SO LIKE TODAY WE ARE OPEN TILL 6:00 PM AND MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY ANYBODY CAN COME IN AND GET AN EMERGENCY FOOD BOX. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE PRODUCE ON HAND BECAUSE OUR PRODUCE AND OUR FOOD PANTRY IS AVAILABLE ON WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS. WEDNESDAY NIGHT WE'RE OPEN ALL THE WAY TILL 6:00 PM WE ALSO SERVE A HOT MEAL TO GO WITH OUR WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOOD PANTRY SO THEY CAN COME IN AND SHOP FOR GROCERIES AND TAKE A MEAL HOME TO EVERYONE THAT'S IN THEIR FAMILY. UM, THEN ON THURSDAY OUR FOOD PANTRY IS OPENED AGAIN. WE'LL SOMETIMES HAVE OUR MISSION HOT DOG CART PARKED OUT FRONT SERVING BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND HOT DOGS. WHAT DURING THE FOOD PANTRY. AND THEN ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON WE KIND OF BOX UP THE PRODUCE AND WE GIVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCAL FOOD [05:15:01] BANK IN COTTONWOOD, NEW HOPE FOOD BANK THAT'S OPEN ON FRIDAYS. SO NONE OF THE FOOD GOES TO WASTE. UM, BUT THEN OUR HOMELESS RESOURCE CENTERS OPENED TUESDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, FRIDAY. UM, BUT ANYTIME WE'RE OPEN, PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND GRAB A, A FOOD BOX. MM-HMM. , THEY JUST HAVE TO RING THE DOORBELL. SO IT'S JUST MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUT DIFFERENT TIMES MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS ALL THE WAY TILL 6:00 PM I, I DID READ YOUR APPLICATION BUT COULD YOU REMIND ME HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF 114 SEDONA? YES. WE HAVE A LINK TO FEED DATABASE SYSTEM THAT WE GET FROM ST. MARY'S SINCE SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ME ABOUT THAT, WHETHER WE PAID FOR IT. AND I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND I SINCE FOUND OUT WE DO NOT PAY FOR IT. BUT THERE IS A PURCHASABLE FEATURES PURCHASABLE YOU CAN PURCHASE ADDITIONAL FEATURES. THAT WAS ST. MARY'S. OKAY. ST. MARY'S PROVIDES THAT FOR US. UM, SO WE DON'T PAY ANYTHING FOR THAT, BUT IT'S HUGELY BENEFICIAL AND EVERY PERSON THAT COMES IN INTO FOOD PANTRY ENTRY CHECKS IN, WE HAVE A CHECK IN LINE INSTEAD OF A CHECKOUT LINE. AND SO AS PEOPLE ARE CHECKING IN, THEY'RE VISITING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THEY'RE UM, YOU KNOW MM-HMM. JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME USUALLY PLAYING WORSHIP MUSIC AND YOU KNOW, UPLIFTING THINGS. AND UM, AGAIN, THE UH, CHECK-IN PROCESS INVOLVES ENTERING THEIR NAME AND INFORMATION. THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER ASSIGNED TO THEM SO THEY CAN LEARN WHAT THEIR NAME OR THEIR NUMBER AND THE ONE WILL PULL UP IN OUR SYSTEM. THEY LOG IN, WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR. SO IF THEY'RE THERE TO GET FOOD BOXES AND PUT THAT, IF THEY GET A CLOTHING VOUCHER OR WE PUT THAT SO THAT'S TIED TO THEIR ZIP CODE. SO WE WERE ABLE TO DO A REPORT THAT SHOWED THAT 114 PEOPLE WENT SEDONA ZIP CODES WERE VISITING THE PANTRY AND WE PASSED SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME AND WE, I THINK WE WENT BACK FOR A YEAR TO SEE AND THERE WAS 114 PLUS THERE'S 22 PEOPLE. WE DID SURVEYS, UM, TO FIND OUT WHO WORKS IN THEONA. RIGHT. THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE. RIGHT. AND SO THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL 22 PEOPLE, BUT THEY AREN'T RESIDENTS. SO IT'S KIND OF CHALLENGING TO PUT THAT ON THERE AND MAKE IT CLEAR. SO I'M FIND THAT YOU GUYS GOT THAT. UM, BUT THAT WAS THE LINK TO FEED DATABASE SYSTEM THAT GOT TO THEM NUMBER. SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT SERVICES THESE 114 PEOPLE USED? I MEAN, WERE THEY JUST COMING IN FOR SHOWERS OR HOT MEAL OR? I ONLY COUNTED THE FOOD PANTRY, THE FOOD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE APPLYING FOR THE FOOD PANTRY. OKAY. BUT YEAH, I HAVE A LIST OF UH, NO THAT'S FINE. ALL THE DIFFERENT STUFF THEY DID, BUT WE ONLY COUNTED THE FOOD PANTRY CUZ THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE REQUESTING FOUND. THAT'S FINE. GOOD DEAL. ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS, YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES. TELL US ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO? WHAT HAPPENS TO HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, I DID BRING AN ANNUAL REPORT IF YOU GUYS ARE INTRODUCED IN THAT, BUT I THINK, UM, THE MISSION USED TO BE VERY INVOLVED IN SEDONA AND I KNOW IT'S, WE USED TO HAVE THE BIKE MARATHON, THE MARATHON RACE, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO START REACHING OUT MORE TO THE COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF COTTONWOOD BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND NEED HELP. AND WE HAVE SUCH A VARIETY OF SERVICES AND I STILL GET, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THE, WHAT THE MISSION IS AND WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING. AND JUST, UM, THIS WEEK WE JUST HIRED SOMEBODY FOR OUR THRIFT STORE. UM, CAUSE WE HAVE A SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AND SHE ACTUALLY LIVES IN SEDONA AND SHE TOOK A TEACHING POSITION, BUT SHE NEEDED SOME MONEY DURING THE SUMMER. SO SHE STARTED WORKING FOR US AT THE THRIFT STORE. SO WE HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. AND OUR THRIFT STORE IS HUGE IN REGARDS TO WE CAN HIRE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMPLOYMENT BARRIERS AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WE WORK WITH A LOT OF HOMELESS CLIENTS THAT GO UP THERE AND WORK. AND SO THERE'S REALLY, WE JUST WANT TO GET MORE OF THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHO THE OLD TOWN MISSION IS AND JUST KEEP EDUCATING PEOPLE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH AVAILABLE. UM, IT'S REALLY JUST A ONE STOP SHOP. YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB. YEAH. THEY, YEAH, THEY WORK WITH SPECTRUM. THEY COME IN AND MM-HMM. THE WOMEN'S PROGRAM, THEY COME IN ON TUESDAY, THEY'LL BOOK THE ENTIRE TUESDAY, THEY'LL GET THE FREE LEGAL CLINIC, THEY'LL GET THE HAIRCUTS, THEY'LL GET PEOPLE IN THERE FOR SHOWERS THAT NEED 'EM. THEY'LL GET THE CLOTHING VOUCHERS AND THEY JUST KIND OF DO THAT WHOLE THING. AND UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY JUST INTERVIEWING A LADY TODAY THAT JUST GRADUATED FROM THE WOMEN'S PROGRAM AT SPECTRUM AND SHE'LL BE WORKING AT THE THRIFT STORE. SO WE JUST REALLY WANT TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT AND YEAH. MORE OF AN IMPACT. FOOD PANTRY PROGRAM IS PROBABLY OUR BIGGEST PROGRAM. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EASILY, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 42 TO 49% OF OUR BUDGET ARE TOTAL BUDGET. AND I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 30 YEARS. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. AND SO OUR ACCOUNTING IS A SCALE OR BIG OR EFFICIENCIES AS A SCALE OR HUGE, WE CAN OFFER THAT BENEFIT. BASICALLY WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 245 TO TWO $50 A YEAR TO FEED PEOPLE THAT'S SAVING THEM $10,000 ON THEIR FOOD BUDGET IN A YEAR. AND SO WE'RE GIVING, IT'S A, IT'S A WEEKLY BENEFIT OF 150 TO $200 FOR $245 A YEAR. SO PEOPLE THAT USE THIS ARE NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT ARE UM, [05:20:01] UH, HOMELESS OR WITHOUT RESOURCES. IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING OR WORKING PEOPLE THAT NEED THOSE. ESPECIALLY WITH RISING PRICES THE WAY THEY ARE. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT WHATSOEVER. SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT KIND OF A BENEFIT AND GET THAT KIND OF RETURN FOR THE DOLLARS THAT MADE BEST IS PHENOMENAL. AND I'M NEW AT THIS, I HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, BUT EVEN WHEN I'M DOING OUR NUMBERS I'M LIKE, WOW, WOW. . SO I JUST THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER PROPOSALS LOOK LIKE, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, WHAT YOUR DOLLARS DO AND HOW FAR THEY GO, UM, $15,000 IS WHAT WE REQUESTED THAT WOULD FEED 61 PEOPLE FOR A YEAR. I MEAN, WHERE ELSE CAN YOU DO THAT? AND I'D LEAVE YOU WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, HAPPENS HERE TODAY. I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM AT THANKSGIVING. IT'S THE GREAT TURKEY GIVEAWAY. UM, EVERYONE HAS TO GO TO COTTONWOOD. BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT TO THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WITH THAT GREAT TURKEY GIVEAWAY, THEY GET THE FULL THANKSGIVING MEAL. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I THINK THE MISSION IS ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES THAT'S DOING THAT. AND IT'S GOT THE TURKEY, IT'S GOT STUFFING, MASHED POTATOES, EVERYTHING IN COMPLETE BOX. AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT AND GET IT TO PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET TO COTTONWOOD TO DO IT. CUZ THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB RAISING FUNDS FOR THAT AND GETTING US A LOT OF TURKEYS. AND SO WE JUST WANT TO IN INCREASE ON THAT. SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE IDEAS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BIG TRUCKS AVAILABLE TO SET UP AND BRING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO PEOPLE. SO, AND WE CAN BRING THEM HERE. SO THAT'S KIND OF NEAT RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY TRAVELS TO US AND AGAIN, THAT'S AN EXPENSE, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE SAVING, I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE. WELL NO, IT'S JUST NONE OF THIS WAS A CHALLENGE. IT'S JUST US TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CRAFT OUR REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. UH, WITHOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ANSWERS THAT THEY WANT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO UM, DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THEM SAYING, WELL NO, NO, NO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS. WELL, WE WANNA BRING THOSE ANSWERS, ANTICIPATE THOSE QUESTIONS AND BRING THE ANSWERS TO THEM IN ADVANCE. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE PUSHING YOU ON THAT. I APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD MONEY FROM CITY OF SEDONA THAT I'M AWARE OF. NO, YOU HAVE NOT. AND SO, LIKE I SAID ON PAPER, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY LOOK LIKE WE NEED MONEY. WE ARE FUNDING OURSELVES THROUGH THE YEARS WE'VE BUILT THESE FUNDING SOURCES AND WE'RE KEEPING 'EM. BUT WE DO WANT IT TO BE DIVERSIFIED AND WE DO WANT IT TO BE FAIR. YES. AND SO WE APPRECIATE BEING CONSIDERED AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU TAMMY. I FINAL QUESTIONS. MM-HMM. WHEN YOU SAID FEEDING 61 FAMILIES A YEAR, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ED'S ASKED PEOPLE IS IN THEIR FOOD INSECURITY. WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU MEET THAT NEED, HOW MUCH OF THAT NEED? YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING ALL THE GROCERIES THAT ARE FAMILY NEEDS? NO, WE'RE SUPPLEMENT. RIGHT. OKAY. PRIMARILY WE PROVIDE, UM, THERE'S EVERY KIND OF FOOD THAT WE PROVIDE THOUGH. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPORT SOMEBODY ENTIRELY IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE RESOURCES. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THE PANTRY ALSO HAVE SNAP BENEFITS. SURE. SO THEY UTILIZE THOSE AS WELL. AND, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT USE THE PANTRY THAT JUST ARE ABOVE THIS THRESHOLD FOR SNAP. AND SO THEY NEED TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR FOOD BUDGET. SO SURE. THAT FEEDING 61 PEOPLE A YEAR TRANSLATES INTO THAT'S JUST TAKING $15,000 AND DIVIDING 245, WHICH IS WHAT IT COSTS US PER YEAR. THAT'S GREAT. UM, I JUST WANNA BE CONSISTENT IN THE QUESTIONING CUZ WE KIND ASKED IT'S MEANT TO BE SUPPLEMENTAL AND THAT'S FINE. IT IS. THANK YOU. YEAH. CUZ THAT LANGUAGE, IF, IF I'M HAVING A, A LITERAL BRAIN DAY AND I HEAR YOU SAY WE FEED, WE CAN FEED 61 PEOPLE FOR THE YEAR, MY BRAIN GOES REALLY? AND AND IT'D BE EASY TO MOVE IN TO SAY THAT'S THE ENTIRE, LIKE ALL THEIR NEEDS. SO IT'S JUST, I WANNA MAKE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. RIGHT. IT'S NOT A CRITICISM AT ALL. WE WOULD JUST WANNA KEEP THE LANGUAGING. MM-HMM. CONSISTENT CUZ THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT WE'VE ASKED OF EVERYBODY. WELL, I'LL STATE IT THIS WAY IF IT MAKES IT A LITTLE CLEARER FOR THAT. FOR THE MONEY THAT WE REQUESTED FOR THIS GRANT, WE PROVIDE FOOD BOXES EVERY WEEK TO 61 PEOPLE. GREAT. THAT'S PERFECT. AND WE DON'T, WE SAY ONCE A WEEK, BUT IF SOMEONE COMES IN TWICE, WE JUST SAY JUST REMEMBER AND WE GIVE 'EM FOOD. YES. . AND THAT'S GREAT. YES. ONCE A WEEK. BUT HERE IT'S NOT A CRITICISM BY STRETCH, IT'S JUST APPRECIATE COLLECT THE SAME KIND OF DATA AND PERSPECTIVE FOR EVERYBODY WE TALKED TO. CUZ THAT'S THE CRAFT THING WE'RE DOING IN THIS CONVERSATION. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT, WE GAVE THREE TH WE, YOU KNOW, GIVE FOOD TO 3000 PEOPLE. WE WENT WITH THE UNIQUE BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 3000 FOOD BOXES, BUT IT'S THIS UNIQUE HOUSEHOLD AND THAT'S IS WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE. STEVEN. YEAH. WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR ACCURACY. I WILL LEAVE THIS ANNUAL REPORT WITH YOU GUYS IF YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO LOOK THROUGH IT. PLEASE THANK RIGHT THERE. AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH, MUCH [05:25:02] VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR DAY. YOU TOO. ORGANIZATION. THEY DO SUCH A GREAT, THEY'RE ONE OF THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION'S FAVORITE ORGANIZATIONS. CAUSE THEY DO SUCH A GREAT OUTREACH AND PROVIDE SO MANY DIFFERENT SERVICES. THE VARIETY OF SERVICES. YEAH. THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. COMMUNITY FOUNDATION LAST YEAR PAID FOR THEIR SHOWERS. MM-HMM. TO YES, PLEASE. HOW'S SEAT? HI. HI. ARE YOU JODY? YES, I AM. JODY. I'M STEPHANIE. AND I AM SO APOLOGIZING NOT GETTING BACK TO YOU. I WAS IN PRESCOTT TILL LATE LAST NIGHT AND NO PROBLEM. I JUST WANNA CHECK IN AND MAKE SURE THAT I WAS YEAH. I THINK ALSO HAD IT BEEN TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, HAD IT BEEN SOMETHING, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE ARE FROM WHAT YOU, FROM WHAT I READ THIS MORNING AT SIX O'CLOCK AND THIS MORNING, UH, IT LOOKED, UM, IT LOOKED TO ME AS IF YOU PRETTY MUCH COVERED THE, YOU KNOW OKAY. RUN THE GAMUT. GREAT WITH IT. UM, PANEL. DO YOU, I I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. DO YOU GUYS GO ALL I SAW YOUR NEW REQUEST AND, UM, THE EQUIPMENT. LET'S LOOK, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT FOR ONE THING. MM-HMM. , I MEAN, CAN UNDERSTAND THE INSTRUCTORS AND UM, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION MM-HMM. , BUT IT SOUNDS AS IF, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, WE KIND OF THREW YOU A CURVE BALL WHEN, UM, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT. I JUST DON'T THINK YOU WERE QUITE READY FOR SOME, MAYBE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, OR SOME OF THE CONCEPTS. RIGHT. HAD YOU COME TO THE WORKSHOP? I THINK I DID. YEAH, I DID COME TO THE WORKSHOP. OKAY. AND, UM, SO WHERE DID I, WHERE DID I FALL DOWN? IT WAS LIKE THIS BIG, UM, IT WAS THE FIRST BIG LIKE GRANT THAT WE, THAT UHHUH PERSONALLY APPLIED FOR. UM, AND AT THAT POINT I SAID TO MYSELF, WHAT DO WE NEED TO BRING THIS INTO FRUITION? MM-HMM. . AND THAT WAS WE NEED THE GUARDS SO WE CAN GET THE FULL-TIME. AND SINCE THEN I'VE LIKE PERSONALLY PAID TO GET MYSELF MY CERTIFICATION UPGRADED SO I CAN LIKE GO TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND DO THE ONLINE OR THE IN-PERSON PORTION OF THE TRAINING, GIVE THEM THE CPR INSTRUCTIONS, UM, BOUGHT THE DUMMIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PART OF THE EQUIPMENT SO THAT I CAN GIVE THEM ONE DUMMY, ONE DUMMY AND ONE AED TRAINER. AND, UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING ACTUALLY WE COULD PROBABLY USE MORE OF. BUT WHAT I PUT AS THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE SWIM PROGRAMS WITH THE GOGGLES AND THE BINS AND ALL THAT IS THAT YEAH. IF WE DO, IF WE DO SWIM, LIKE THE SWIM LEAGUE, LIKE IF WE GO AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, EVERYBODY DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THEIR OWN SUIT. EVERYBODY. UM, LIKE IT'S VERY NICE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THEIR BASIC TEAM SUIT. UM, LIKE THE SWORDFISH HAVE TEAM SUITS AND CAPS AND WE TRY TO GIVE EVERY KID WHO PARTICIPATES ON THE TEAM AT LEAST A CAP SO THAT THEY, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TEAM, UH, IDENTIFICATION AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE FUN MEETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF THE TEAM. OKAY. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A TEAM OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, UH, GIVING KIDS BASIC SWIM INSTRUCTIONS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE FUNCTIONING ON A TEAM? IS THIS STRICTLY A TEAM ELEMENT? NO, IT'S NOT STRICTLY A TEAM ELEMENT. IT IS AQUATICS PROGRAMS GOING FROM NON-SWIMMERS. OKAY. ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD THEIR TEAM SKILLS AND PURSUE LIKE COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY. LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T SWIM AND THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO SWIM. OKAY. CAN WE DO SOMETHING FOR THEM? OH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THEM? UM, WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM IS, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS GO THROUGH THE OUTREACH PROGRAM, UH, PARTNER WITH USA SWIMMING, WHICH THEY WAIVE THEIR REGISTRATION FEES, I THINK I'LL ACCEPT FOR $5. AND THEN WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS FINDING A PRIVATE GRANTOR, UM OKAY. YOU KNOW, TO SUPPLY THEIR, THEIR SWIMMING FEES AS NEEDED. WE REDUCE IT TO BARE MINIMUM. UM, WE HAVE TO PAY THE POOL EXPENSES TO THE CITY. SO THIS MM-HMM. , UH, YOU KNOW, ADDING MORE POOL HOURS IS ACTUALLY GONNA GO BACK INTO THE CITY FUNDS TO U BETTER UTILIZE THAT POOL. UM, HELPING WITH, I KNOW IT'S AN UPSIDE DOWN PROPOSITION, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE AQUATICS [05:30:01] DIRECTOR ALSO IN CAMP VERDE, UM, THEY'RE UPSIDE DOWN LIKE OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. SO REACHING MORE RESIDENTS, UM, TEACHING THEM THE SKILLS AND BUILDING THAT COMMUNITY IS THE THREE PRIMARY FOCUSES. OKAY. FOR, FOR, UM, FOR $10,000, HOW, HOW MANY KIDS COULD WE TRAIN? HOW MANY KIDS COULD YOU TEACH HERE IN SEDONA THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY SKILLS TO SURVIVE IN THE WATER IF THEY FELL IN? AND WHAT WOULD YOU NEED TO DO THAT AND HOW, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED TO DO THAT? OKAY. I HAVE A LIST OF 54 PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN SEDONA. OKAY. THAT WANTED TO GET TRAINING FOR THEIR LITTLE CHILDREN. OKAY. GOOD. ALRIGHT. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. MM-HMM. 54 KIDS. MM-HMM. , WHAT, WHAT KIND OF TIME COMMITMENT AND IS WHAT, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO GET THOSE 54 KIDS SO THEY'D BE ABLE TO GET, PULL THEMSELVES OUT ON THE WATER? UM, I BASICALLY NEED LIKE EIGHT, A MINIMUM OF EIGHT LESSONS EVERY KID. OKAY. UM, EVERY KID LEARNS AT THEIR OWN PACE. I HAD ONE LITTLE GIRL WHO FOR TWO SUMMERS, I TAUGHT HER, SHE LEARNED HOW TO PADDLE, SHE LEARNED HOW TO KID, DIDN'T WANNA PUT HER FACE IN THE WATER. ONE BEAUTIFUL GLORIOUS DAY, SHE DECIDED SHE WAS READY. AND NOW SHE HAS JUST ROCKETED ON THE SWIM TEAM. SHE JUST LOVES BEING IN COMPETITION. IT'S JUST HER JOY IN LIFE GOING BACK AND FORTH IN THE WATER. YEAH. SHE'S GONE FROM DROWNING TO COMPETITION. YEP. OKAY. SO EIGHT LESSONS TO GET THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, BASICALLY. BASICALLY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I ALWAYS TEACH WATER SAFETY, LIKE, UM, RIGHT FROM THE GET GO, LIKE, WAIT, YOU KNOW, WAIT, AL WAS ASKED BEFORE ENTERING THE WATER, UHHUH, AND MAKE SURE YOU GET A YES FROM AN ADULT. OKAY. MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE AN ADULT, YOUR ADULT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO YOU. OKAY. AND, UM, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD THESE EIGHT LESSONS TAKE? I USUALLY, UM, I PUT EACH LESSON AT 20 MINUTES TO 45 WITH THE AVERAGE OF 30 MINUTES PER LESSON. MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, JUST SOME KIDS GET COLD AFTER 20 MINUTES. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY'RE BUILT. SOME KIDS ARE LIKE GLORIOUSLY HAVING FUN AND SO WE CARRY IT OVER INTO 45 MINUTES, WHICH IS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM FOUR. OKAY. SO ABOUT FOUR HOURS A KID, RIGHT? YEAH. TO, TO GET TO GET THEM ABOUT FOUR HOURS, GET THEM FUNCTIONAL. HOW MANY KIDS CAN YOU HANDLE AT ONE TIME? UM, EIGHT. AT EIGHT. EIGHT KIDS AT A TIME? YES. FOR THIS WHOLE THING? MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, I USUALLY LIKE TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT LESS, YOU KNOW, FEWER KIDS AT A TIME. MM-HMM. , IT DEPENDS ALSO ON THEIR LEVEL IF THEY'RE TOTALLY NON SWIMMING KIDS. YEAH. LET'S TALK ABOUT NON-SWIMMERS. OKAY. TOTAL NON-SWIMMERS. UM, LIKE TODDLER AGE, I WOULD HAVE ONE, UH, ONE ADULT TO TWO SWIMMERS. OKAY. OKAY. BUT, BUT FOR KIDS THAT ARE LIKE IN, UM, GRADE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR JUST MM-HMM. . YEAH. NOT TODDLERS, BUT SOME PEOPLE. YEAH. LIKE SIX YEAR OLDS. UM, THEY CAN GET IN GROUPS OF, YOU KNOW, SIX IS A REALLY COMFORTABLE GOOD. THAT'S AN OPTIMUM AGE FOR YOU. YEAH. SIX IS A, IS A PERFECT AGE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX. AND THEY CAN USUALLY AT SIX YEARS OLD HANDLE GROUPS OF BEING IN LIKE SIX SIX WITH ONE INSTRUCTOR. GOT IT. UH, FOUR. A LOT OF TIMES I'LL, I'LL HAVE MORE KIDS, LIKE EIGHT TO 10 KIDS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IS AN INSTRUCTOR AND AN ASSISTANT. OKAY. IN THE WATER. AND HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WOULD THIS COST? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST FOR SIX KIDS TO GET THEM FROM ZERO TO UH, HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH FOR THE FOUR HOURS? LIKE FOR THE POOL TIME? YEAH, FOR THE POOL TIME. UM, YEAH, I'M SORRY. I, I GOT THAT ALL IN ONE BIG CLUMP. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE $20 AN HOUR PER LANE. $20. AND HOW MANY LANES DO YOU NEED? UM, USUALLY LIKE TWO, TWO LANES TO EFFICIENTLY RUN MORE THAN ONE CLASS. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHTY. AND UH, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE COOPERATION OF PARKS AND REC ON THIS ALREADY. YES. I KNOW, I KNOW JOSH HAS BEEN BEAUTIFUL IN THIS WHOLE, NOW WHERE'S THE LIFEGUARD? DO YOU NEED A LIFEGUARD AND ALL THIS? I DO AND THAT'S WHY I GOT CERTIFIED TO TRAIN MY OWN LIFEGUARDS. I'VE HIRED TO LIFEGUARDS. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TRAINING THEM MM-HMM. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STARTING THIS WHOLE PROCESS SO WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT. OKAY. SO IT'S 20 HOURS FOR THE 20 HOURS, UH, FOR THE POOL FOR FOUR HOURS. OKAY. THAT'S 80 BUCKS. UM, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY SERVES FOR ALL THE KIDS. WHAT ABOUT THE INSTRUCTOR TIME FOR THIS, FOR THESE SIX KIDS, WE PAY THEM $20 AN HOUR. OKAY. $20 AN HOUR. AND YOU NEED ONE INSTRUCTOR? UM, I PREFER TWO INSTRUCTORS. I'M TRAINING TWO INSTRUCTORS. YOU WANT TWO INSTRUCTORS AT ONE TIME. MM-HMM. AND NO LIFEGUARD. CUZ THE INSTRUCTORS CAN [05:35:01] DO LIFEGUARDING TOO. IF I CERTIFY THE, THE SAYS LIFEGUARDS AND THEN I AS THE, UM, PROGRAM SUPERVISOR AND ON DECK, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S COOL. AND THAT'S GOOD WITH JOSH. OKAY. I LIKE TALKED THAT IT IS. OKAY, SO YOURSELF TWO INSTRUCTORS. MM-HMM. CAN HANDLE SIX, SIX LITTLE KIDS. SIX TO 12. THEY COULD HANDLE 10 KIDS. 10 KIDS PROBABLY EASILY. OKAY. I THINK I'M GETTING, I'M GETTING IT A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A OVERALL PICTURE MM-HMM. SURE. BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KIND OF BACK INTO IT THAT WAY MM-HMM. AND WE'LL SEE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PARSE TOGETHER. BUT UM, I THINK, I THINK WE KIND OF NEED TO RESTRUCTURE THIS WHOLE THING. OKAY. NOW DO THEY NEED GOGGLES AND ALL THAT STUFF OR? WE USUALLY HAVE PEOPLE BRING THEIR OWN GOGGLES AND BUY THEIR OWN GOGGLES. UM, WE, I KEEP A COLLECTION OF GOGGLES THAT PEOPLE LEAVE BEHIND. SO IF KIDS DON'T HAVE GOGGLES, I USUALLY CAN SUPPLY THEM FOR OUT OF LOST AND FOUND THAT I JUST KIND OF KEEP IN FRANKENSTEIN GOGGLES TOGETHER. OKAY. DO THEY ALL NEED, DO THEY ALL NEED GOGGLES? THEY ALL NEED GOGGLES, YES. THEY ALL NEED GOGGLES. MM-HMM. . SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. I THOUGHT THE GRANT WAS FEW TO TRAIN PARENTS WHO WANTED TO BECOME LIFEGUARDS. WELL, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY WHAT WE NEEDED WAS PARENTS TO BECOME LIFEGUARDS. AND THEN WE HEARD BACK THAT WE DON'T, WE WON'T PAY TO TRAIN PEOPLE. UM, IN THE MEANTIME I'VE PUT LIKE A LOT OF MY OWN MONEY INTO THINKING HOW CAN I DO THIS? IF, IF WE DON'T GET A GRANT, HOW CAN WE GO FORWARD? AND UM, SO NOW I CAN, I CAN TRAIN LIFEGUARDS. I MEAN, IT'S STILL AN EXPENSE. THERE'S STAR GUARD. UM, STAR GUARD HAS THEIR A HUNDRED BUCKS OR WHATEVER IT IS PER, PER PERSON THAT WE NEED TO PAY. BUT I CAN VOLUNTEER MY TIME AS THE INSTRUCTOR. OKAY. I CAN GO TO THEIR HOME. I CAN JUST LIKE REALLY MINIMIZE THE FACILITY RENTAL THAT WE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN DO IT THE, UH, THE DRYLAND PORTION IN SOMEBODY'S HOME. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M GETTING IS YOU'RE CHANGING THE SCOPE. WHAT I'M GETTING, WHAT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS BUILD A PROGRAM WE CAN FUND. OKAY. YES. OKAY. WE'RE, WE'RE ALL FOR THAT. WE'RE OUR HEART. OUR HEART IS, UM, IS INCREASING THE AQUATICS. YEAH, I KNOW. I KNOW. THAT'S EXACTLY, YEAH. I CAN TELL. I KNOW IT IS. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REQUEST CAME IN. I, I THINK THE, THE, THE WAY THE REQUEST WAS CRAFTED, I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT. OKAY. BUT I SEE THAT ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE THERE YEAH. FOR SOMETHING THAT THE CITY I FEEL DOES NEED. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT I, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS A NEED FOR MM-HMM. , EVERY CITY NEEDS A PROGRAM AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CRAFT IT. I KNOW. SO THAT I KNOW. SO THAT IT WORKS EVERYBODY. SO BASICALLY I THINK IT WAS GONNA BE, IF YOU DO THIS , WE CAN DO THIS UHHUH . AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO, IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT MM-HMM. THAT YOU CAN DO. CUZ I KNOW THAT'S WHERE YOUR HEART IS. YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU, I REALLY CAN READ BETWEEN THE LINES OF YOUR, YOUR REQUEST AND SEE THAT I CAN SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND YEAH. I OF PLAYED INTO THE WOODS AND THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, FIRST TIME AROUND IT'S ALWAYS JUST A HANDBALL IN THE DARK. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. NO, AND AFTER LOOKING AT IT, AND I, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN REALLY OFFER SOME, SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS AND UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK IN THAT DIRECTION MM-HMM. , I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS PUT OUR MINDS TO IT TOMORROW AND WE DO OUR DELIBERATIONS. AND THEN WE'LL SAY, IF YOU CAN DO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS. CAN WE MAKE IT WORK? YES. AND I KNOW SEAN ALSO WHO WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. YEAH. HE, HE WAS TRYING REALLY HARD TO BE HERE TODAY. UHHUH . UM, BUT HE'S ALSO VERY WILLING, YOU KNOW, HE'S LIKE, MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT BUILDING THE AQUATICS IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY, IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT SLIDING SCALES OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED AND FUNNEL THAT BACK SO THAT THE CITY AS ONE OF THE SAILFISH SPORT FISH SI FISH PROJECT PARTNERS CAN ALSO, LIKE, IF THERE'S KIDS THAT NEED LESSONS THROUGH THE CITY PROGRAMS THAT CAN'T PAY. THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, I KNOW FROM WHAT I READ THIS MORNING THAT CA WHAT THAT CAME IN. I, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES MM-HMM. TO HELP KIDS LEARN TO SWIM. AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. MM-HMM. . SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, UH, HAVE YOU HELP US DO THAT. THANKS SO MUCH. I SAW ONE, ONE LITTLE EIGHT YEAR OLD BOY PULLED OUT OF A, A HOTEL, SWIMMING POOL LIVED AND CARRIED BY A FIREMAN. AND IT'S LIKE, I DON'T EVER WANT THAT TO MM-HMM. TO HAPPEN AGAIN. CAUSE MY LITTLE BOY WAS HAVING A BLAST, I'M SURE RIGHT UP TO THE TIME THAT HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TO THE WALL. SO YEAH. IT'S, IT'S REALLY, UM, MY [05:40:01] LIFE PASSION TO EMPOWER OTHER PE NOT ONLY JUST TEACH ALL OF THAT, BUT TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THAT TOOLKIT TO, TO TEACH. NO, WE GOT, I MEAN, I I, I COMPLETELY SEE THAT AND YOU'VE VALIDATED IT THROUGH EVERYTHING YOU SAID TODAY, SO. OKAY. AND I'LL CUT OFF BOTH YOUR ARMS AND PUT THEM ON ME. . . CAUSE YOU'RE GORGEOUS ARMS. GORGEOUS ARMS. OH, . I'M SURE, I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT A SWIMMER'S BODY AND IT'S, I'M IN, YES. SO I, I TRY SOMETIMES I'M USUALLY IN THE WATER AND COACHING SO MUCH I, I EVER SWIM, BUT I LOVE GETTING IN THE WEIGHT ROOM DAYS AND SWIMMING WHEN I CAN. OH, IT SHOWS YOU THAT. IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF PAST OUR TIME HERE. LET'S SEE. OKAY. UM, BUT I, THANKS FOR COMING IN AND LISTEN. DON'T WORRY, DON'T WORRY. WE'LL, OKAY. YOU KNOW, UM, IF FOR SOME REASON, IF FOR, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND WE CAN'T PUT IT TOGETHER THIS YEAR, WE'LL ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE EVERY TOOL YOU NEED WHEN IT COMES AROUND NEXT TIME. AND MAYBE WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE'VE, UM, HELPED YOU PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT, THAT WILL, UM, MEET YOUR, YOU KNOW, MEET YOUR GOALS. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. NO, NOT AT ALL. AND YOU KNOW, DON'T JUST, THIS IS NOT A NO, NOT A YES, BUT IT'S NOT A NO. OKAY. NOBODY GETS A YES TODAY, BUT NOBODY . SO, UM, AND AGAIN, DON'T, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN WORK FAST ENOUGH FOR THIS PROCESS, BUT WE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO, SO, OKAY. YEAH. UM, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME OR SEAN, AND WE WILL WORK AS, AS FAST AS YOU NEED US TO WORK. I KNOW. I, I ABSOLUTELY KNOW YOU WILL. OKAY. WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN TOMORROW TO, TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH. YOU BET. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THANK, THANK YOU, JODY. THANK YOU. JODY. OUR DAUGHTER WAS A LIFEGUARD AT THE POOL WHEN SHE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. YEAH. YOU SAID ME GOING THERE. I WAS LIKE, WHAT THE HECK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I KNOW, I KNOW. I TOTALLY HIJACKED THAT. SO SOMETHING NEW CAME THROUGH JUST THIS MORNING. YEAH. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT. IT WAS, IT, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT. YEAH. WELL, I, OH WELL. I'M NOT FINE. I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM JUST WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. I, I GET THE, I GET THE PICTURE HERE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. YEAH, I DO. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. NO PROBLEM. OH, HI. I KNOW THIS LADY. I KNOW BOTH THESE LADIES. HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? HEY, CAMILLA. HI BEVERLY. HOW ARE MINE? HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU. COME ON MISS BEVERLY . SORRY. DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ON TIME OR NOT. WE MIGHT BE LITTLE BIT OVER BIT. SORRY, MICKEY. WAIT LADIES. UM, ALL RIGHT. I HOPE WE DIDN'T DISTURB YOU TALKING. NO, NO. HEAR A PEAK. DIDN'T HEAR BEEP. OKAY. PANEL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THESE TWO LADIES? THEY'RE BRINGING FORTH A BRAND NEW PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY FOR, UM, THE ARTS ACADEMY. SO IF YOU DO PODCASTS, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I'M GREAT, . I'M GREAT. YEAH. I DIDN'T SAY HELLO EVEN. HELLO. NICE TO MEET YOU BEVERLY. I'M PATTY. UM, YOU'D, YOU'D BE DOING THE, THE ACTUAL PODCAST PRODUCTION IN THE ARTS ACADEMY OF SEDONA, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. I SEE, OKAY. WITH YOUR FACILITIES THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THERE PLUS WHAT NEW STUFF YOU NEED TO PUT TOGETHER. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THE, UM, FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, AND I, I KNOW IN BEVERLY FROM PAST YEARS PAST, YOU'RE FOCUSING THE PODCAST ON THE HARMONY, THE HARMONY COMMUNITY NEEDS. YES. IS THAT THE RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THE PODCAST, HOW ARE THE PODCASTS GONNA BE PUSHED OUT? VIA, VIA, UM, UH, STREAMING ON THE PHONE OR LIKE, SO WHEN YOU DO PODCAST, UM, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS , WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE MICS. OKAY. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MIXER. OKAY. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE PODCAST, BUT IT'S GONNA BE UPLOADED TO A PLATFORM. AND ONCE IT'S UPLOADED TO THAT PLATFORM, THEY GET TO PUSHED OUT TO APPLE AND OTHER, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS. OKAY. SO IF, IF I IS, IS IT AN APP? SO IF I WANTED TO DIAL IN AND YOU COULD, WHAT, WHAT IS THE APP? WHAT IS THE APP? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ITS PODCAST INSIGHTS WILL BE THE PLATFORM THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE MM-HMM. . AND SO ONCE WE GET ON THEIR PLATFORM, YOU'LL BE ABLE [05:45:01] TO DOWNLOAD THE APP, DOWNLOAD THE APP, YEAH. TO YOUR PHONE OR YOUR IPAD, OR YOUR COMP, OR YOU CAN SEE IT IN YOUR COMPUTER AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE PODCAST. OKAY. HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HARMONY HAVE, HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT, HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, DO YOU KNOW? OH, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE? NO, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. BUT EVERYBODY'S GOT A CELL PHONE, SO, OKAY. UH, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, FACEBOOK LIVE. YEAH. AND SO, OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S PART OF THAT SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM. AND ALL OF THOSE PLATFORMS ARE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT PODCAST. AND SO WE CAN ALSO DO THE PODCAST AS GREATLY SAYS, LIVE WHERE IT'S UPLOADED AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE US ON FACEBOOK. OH, OKAY. SO THERE ARE MANY OUTLETS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AND THERE ARE, ARE THERE FEES TO THE USERS AT ALL? NO. IT'S A FREE SERVICE. SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE, UM, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE, ARE WANTING, ARE THEY AWARE OF IT AND, AND WANT THIS WHERE WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS? YES. YES. BECAUSE I I SHOULD PASS THIS, UH, TEST NOW. ONLY HAVE 10 MINUTES, MAAM. 10 MINUTES. OKAY. YOU NEXT SUBJECT WHILE I GET THE TEST DONE, WASN'T, UH, DIDN'T, UH, NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE FUND A SURVEY A FEW YEARS BACK? THAT'S RIGHT. AND I, I WANTED IT 2012 WAS WHAT YOU REFERRED TO YOUR SURVEY IN YOUR, UH, DOCUMENTATION. AND ONE THING, IF I MIGHT, WELL, IF BEVERLY'S LOOKING FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, I COULD MAYBE ASK, UH, I THINK THAT THE STATISTICS THAT I REMEMBER, I MIGHT BE WRONG. YOU, I THINK YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A RETURN OF 13% OF 600 HOUSEHOLDS WHO GOT THE SURVEY. AND THAT DIDN'T SOUND REAL HIGH TO ME. I THINK THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD RETURN FOR SURVEYS. BUT WHAT DO I KNOW ABOUT SURVEY SURVEYS? WELL, YES, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS TRIED TO DO SURVEYS, UH, SIMILAR AND THEY'VE GOTTEN 2%, 3%. PEOPLE DO NOT, YEAH. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO PUT THEIR PRIVATE BUSINESS DOWN AND, AND THEN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPLICATED, UH, QUESTIONS LIKE THESE. OH, SO YOU HAVE TO SMOOTH A BIT. WELL, EVEN THE COMMUNITY PLAN ONLY GOT A 6% RETURN. I THINK THE VILLAGES GET BETTER RETURNS. WHAT'S NICE FOR US, UH, AT THE ACADEMY, PART OF OUR MISSION, YOU GUYS, IS THAT WE, AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COME INTO OUR FACILITY AND ALLOW THEM TO EXCEL AT THEIR OWN PERSONAL GOALS. OKAY. AND THIS IS ONE OF BEVERLY'S PERSONAL GOALS, IS TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, HEY, LET'S DO THIS PODCAST. LET'S FIND OUT ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR HEALTH THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND HOW YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE. AND THAT'S PART OF OUR MISSION AS A WHOLE, IS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WHETHER IT'S ARTS RELATED, HEALTH RELATED, ALL OF THE ARTS ARE REPRESENTED IN ONE SPACE AND ONE TIME. SO WE HAVE CULINARY, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HEALING ARTS, WE HAVE PERFORMING ARTS, WE HAVE MUSIC ARTS. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE ALL IN ONE SPACE. AND AS A COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING NEW HERE. AND THAT WE'RE REDEFINING HEALTH SO THAT PEOPLE BEGIN TO SEE THAT HEALTH IS A LIFESTYLE. WELLNESS IS A LIFESTYLE. AND UM, THAT IS AN ART TO LIVING. LIVING IS AN ART. SO WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE ART OF LIVING. BUT IT WOULDN'T JUST HAVE TO BE FOR HARMONY, WOULD IT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PODCASTING, THEN YOU COULD PUSH THE APP OUT. THAT'S TO ANYONE, RIGHT? ANYWAY. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO THE WHOLE CITY. ACTUALLY. WE'LL DO NEWSPAPER PUBLICATIONS AND YEAH, I WAS WONDERING HOW YOU WERE GONNA, AND AND ALSO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A WHOLE NEW CONCEPT OF COMMUNITY HEALTH DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING WE'LL DO A TEST BY, UM, A TEST FOR PEOPLE, THE WELLNESS TEST TO SEE WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE. AND WE'LL TAKE ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL VOLUNTEER. [05:50:02] I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GIFT WE COULD GIVE THEM TO ENCOURAGE IT, BUT AT THE END WE WILL RETEST THOSE PEOPLE TO SEE IF ANYTHING IN THEIR LIFESTYLE HAS CHANGED. SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA ADMINISTER THE TEST ONLINE? LIKE THAT? TEST THE COMMON WELLNESS SELF. OKAY. AND IT'S FREE AND IT WILL GO, THE RESULTS OF IT WILL GO INTO A SPECIAL DATABASE. OKAY. AND THEN, THEN YOU'LL CRAFT THE PODCAST BASED ON THIS INITIAL TEST. SO THEY'LL, OKAY. YEAH. SO YOU'LL CRAFT THE PODCAST, DELIVER THE PODCAST, AND FOLLOW UP WITH ANOTHER TEST TO SEE WHAT'S CHANGED. AND NOW YES. THAT'S HOW YOU'RE BY BY THAT SAMPLE. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S NOT GONNA VOLUNTEER TO, TO BE A SAMPLE MM-HMM. . BUT WE WILL SEE WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE IN THIS SAMPLE. OKAY. SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA PUSH OUT THE INITIAL TEST? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT TO TAKE THE TEST? SO NEWSLETTERS. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO SHE'S GONNA HAVE A NEWSLETTER THAT ELAINE IS GOING TO CREATE AND PUT TOGETHER. AND THAT NEWSLETTER WILL GO OUT PRIOR TO EACH PODCAST. SO THE BEGINNING, YOU'LL HAVE A FIRST NEWSLETTER, AND THEN AFTER EACH ONE YOU'LL HAVE A NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT PRIOR TO THE PODCAST THAT GOES TO THE HARMONY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S GONNA GO THE WHOLE AREA. CUZ WE'RE GONNA DO A E E D A DIRECT NAME YES. DIRECT MAIL, RIGHT? YES. YEAH. TO THE 600 HOUSES IN HARMONY. IN HARMONY. RIGHT. EXPLAINING WHAT WENT BEFORE, WHAT THEY SAID THEY WANTED. MM-HMM. . AND THEN WHAT WE WILL DO IN RESPONSE, AS I REMEMBER YOU SAID THAT WHAT THEY WANTED AT THAT TIME, THE PRIORITIES WERE JOBS AND INCOME AND OH, YOU DID A GOOD JOB. NO, I, I'VE SPENT TIME ON THIS. YEAH. , YOU SAID JOBS AND INCOME AND, UM, HEALTH. HEALTH. WELL, I, WAS IT HEALTH? I DON'T REMEMBER HEALTH WAS ONE OTHER ONE. UH, WAS IT HOUSING? HOUSING I THINK WAS ANOTHER HOUSING ISSUE. ONE. HOUSING WAS A HIGH ONE, WASN'T IT? AND GOVERNANCE, THEY WANTED TO I SEE. GO BETTER GOVERNANCE TO BE INVOLVED IN, UH, WHAT GOES ON HERE? I, I WANNA BE A CYNIC HERE FOR A WHILE. OKAY. A REAL CYNICAL, UM, NEGATIVE KIND OF PERSON HERE FOR A MOMENT. HOW? NOT THAT I, NOT, I, I SOMETIMES CAN BE THAT WAY WHEN I, UM, MY EXPERIENCE IS KIND OF WITH THE HARD SCIENCES AS OPPOSED TO THE WELLNESS COMMUNITY. I'LL BE HONEST ABOUT THAT. AND SO SOMETIMES WHEN, BUT I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE VERY, VERY MUCH INTO ALTERNATIVE MEDICINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND MY IMPRESSION IS, IS THAT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT BRINGING IN DIFFERENT BUSINESSES TO BE PARTS OF THESE PODCASTS. BECAUSE WHEN I SEE BUSINESSES AND WELLNESS, I SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY TRYING HARD TO SELL THEIR OWN SUPPLEMENTS. I'M TELLING YOU, I'M BEING CYNICAL AND NEGATIVE HERE. AND I, I KNOW THAT, BUT I, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE, HOW CAN I SAY THIS? UM, APPROPRIATE USE TO KIND OF CONSIDER THE PODCAST THAT, THAT THE CITY WOULD BE FINANCING PARTIALLY AT LEAST TO BE A SALES PITCH. HMM. IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT THAN US HAVING A EXECUTIVE FROM A HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION, A NATIONAL ONE SITTING ON THE PANEL, UM, SELLING THEIR SERVICES AND WHAT THEY OFFER? I DON'T KNOW. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I DO, I THINK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I AM A BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR. YEAH, I KNOW. SO I'VE BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END OF THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND THE RECEIVING END OF THE WELLNESS SYSTEM. UHHUH, . AND I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE, MY WELLNESS SYSTEM HAS SAVED MY LIFE, HAS WORKED BETTER FOR YOU, HAS WORKED MUCH BETTER FOR ME. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, I AM SEVEN YEARS CLEAN AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WELLNESS INDUSTRY THAT I AM SITTING HERE. MM-HMM. , UM, AFTER TWO, AFTER THE SECOND YEAR OF TAKING CHEMO DRUGS, I QUIT THEM AND I WENT ON A WELLNESS REGIMEN MM-HMM. AND MY BODY IS CLEAN. MM-HMM. , HAD I GONE THE OTHER WAY, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY. SO I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WELLNESS IS IMPORTANT AND HOW PEOPLE COME ABOUT LOOKING AT WELLNESS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE AVENUE GENERALLY, AND WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE. AND SO WHEN YOU ADD THE ALTERNATIVE WITH THE REGULAR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, THERE'S EDUCATION THERE. [05:55:02] YES. AND I, I LOVE THAT. AND IT'S CALLED NOW COMPLIMENTARY BY THE WAY. OKAY. OR I INTEGRATED BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INTEGRATE COMPLIMENTARY OR, OR OTHER CONSIDERATIONS INTO OUR HEALTH. AND MAYO IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT. MAYO IS NOW ADDING IN THE ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE MEDICINE FOR PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE. AND I AM A, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE LIFESTYLE PART OF IT. IT WAS JUST MY CONCERN WAS THE, THE MONETARY, UH, SELLING ASPECT THAT WAS THE PART THAT WAS BOTHERING ME, NOT THE ALTERNATIVE ASPECT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY YEAH. ON WELLNESS. YEAH. AND SO THE GREAT EXAMPLE WAS I PUT YES, UH, ESSENTIAL OILS. THOSE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE HUMAN BODY AND HAVING SOMEONE COME AND TALK ABOUT THEM AND HOW THEY WORK IN THE HUMAN BODY, NOT NECESSARILY SELLING THE PRODUCT VIA THE PODCAST, BUT EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THAT THEY PUSH OUT TO THE PUBLIC. SO HOW OFTEN WOULD THE PODCAST HAPPEN? WE'RE GOING TO DO SIX PODCASTS ONCE A MONTH, ONCE PODCAST, BECAUSE THE GRANT ONLY GOES FROM SEPTEMBER TO MARCH. AND HOW LONG IS THE PODCAST? UH, LET'S SAY 30 MINUTES. THREE MINUTES. OH, CAN'T WE HAVE MORE? YES MA'AM. , I THINK AN HOUR. OH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN . YES MA'AM. IT WILL BE AN HOUR. . SO MS. BEVERLY SAYS ONE HOUR. IT'S ONE HOUR. SO IT'LL BE AN HOUR. SO BESIDES LIKE ESSENTIAL OILS, WHAT COULD THE OTHER TOPICS BE? FOOD. OH YES. WHAT, WHAT IS IT? WE'VE ALWAYS SPENT ALL THAT TIME DOING. WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? UH, THE FOREST. SHE TALKS ABOUT GARDENING. SO HERE'S A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE IN THE BEYONCE. THEY KEEP CREATED A COMMUNITY GARDEN. COMMUNITY GARDENS ARE IMPORTANT. HOW WE LOOK AT OUR FOOD, HOW WE WE GROW OUR FOOD. YES. IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. YEAH. WHERE OUR FOOD COMES FROM. SO NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT HOW FOOD, FOOD IS THE HEALING THAT BEGINS WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE MOUTH. AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND HOW THAT WORKS. OH, HERE IT IS. . ALL RIGHT. AND THE JOBS AND INCOME. WE WANT TO SHOW THAT WE COULD HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, A CROP OF GARLIC, YOU KNOW, THE SEDONA CROP AND ANYONE COULD GROW IT. AND THEN WE HAVE DIRECT, YOU KNOW, THE FARM, THE WHATEVER YOU CALL 'EM. OKAY. HANG ON A SECOND. DO YOU, I'M A LITTLE, DO YOU ALREADY KNOW THE SIX PODCAST TOPICS? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. MM-HMM. . I DO. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. SO WHAT'S THE PURP THE PURPOSE OF THE MAILING IS FOR THE BEFORE AND AFTER THAT IT'S FOR EVERYTHING. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MAILING THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE PODCASTS WILL BE, AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE FOR EACH OF THESE SUBJECTS. OKAY. SO THAT THEY KNOW WHICH ONE IS COMING. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE FOR THE FINAL THAT SHE'S GOING TO HAVE IN TERMS OF TESTING. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY, HOW MANY PEOPLE I KNOW THERE ARE 600 HOUSEHOLD IN HARMONY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY HAVE LISTENING TO THESE PODCASTS? WE'RE SAYING THAT 600 IN HARMONY, BUT WE KNOW THAT MORE ARE GOING TO LISTEN. OKAY. SO WHAT'S YOUR ANTICIPATION ABOUT HOW MANY ARE GONNA LISTEN? HOW DO WE KNOW? WELL, NO, YOU HAVE TO KNOW. OKAY. I NEED THAT NUMBER. 13% RESPONDENT. WE JUST COULD GO BY THAT. OKAY. SO 13% OF 600 OF, OF 600 OR SIX OR MORE THAN 613% OF, BECAUSE YOU ONLY DID THIS TO HARMONY, BUT WELL NOW SHE, SHE'S SAYING THAT IT'S GOING OUT TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE. WE GOT MAIL 2000. IT'S GONNA GO OUT TO 2000 PEOPLE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE MAILING SAYS. THAT WHEN YOU DO THE MAILING IS THIS IS HOW MANY PEOPLE IT WILL SERVICE. OKAY. THE, YOU'RE GONNA SEND IT OUT TO 2000 PEOPLE, BUT YOU EXPECT 13,000 OF THOSE TWO, THOSE 13%. 13% OF THOSE 2000 TO RESPOND. OKAY. SO 13% OF 2000 WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE PODCAST. MOSTLY. OKAY. 13%. OKAY. THAT'S THE NUMBER I NEED. YEAH. WE HAVE TO GO BY WHAT THE, WHAT THE, AND THAT'S FINE. OKAY. WE'RE WORKING OFF OF REAL NUMBERS NOW. OKAY. OKAY. THAT GIVES ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. WE ALREADY KNOW THE TOPICS. THE TOP THE TOPICS WOULD BE HEALTHCARE AND SELF CARE. SO IT WOULD BE ALL KINDS OF PHYSICAL AND NUTRITION AND THAT TYPE THING. BUT YOU'VE GOT THE SIX TOPICS. YES. RIGHT. OKAY. THEY'RE LISTED HERE. OKAY. THEY'RE LISTED THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT THE SIX TOPICS. SO GETTING THOSE OUT, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE WAY [06:00:01] TO, TO GET PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO 'EM AND YOU'VE GOT THE WAY TO MEASURE THE RESULT. MM-HMM. . YES. PERSONALLY. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF TIME. I DO BELIEVE, UM, OH, ONE MORE. WE WANNA SHARE MORE. I KNOW. UP AGAINST THE TIME. OH YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE WAY OVER, I THINK. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY YOU GUYS. I, BUT I, WE, WE HAVE WHAT WE, I MEAN WE'VE GOT THE PARAMETERS AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I NEEDED TO, TO NAIL DOWN BEFORE WE GO. CAUSE OTHERWISE WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO BASE. UH, THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. OH, THANK YOU. YOUR PATIE. IT'S GOOD. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. SERVING WAS LOVE. OKAY. OKAY, MS. BEVERLY, HOW DID I LOSE MY TIME? THING. YOU CAN KEEP THOSE, UH, PAPERS. OKAY. THANK, SEE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TOGETHER. SO, OKAY. WE JUST CUT INTO OUR BREAK, SO WE'RE GOOD FOR A BREAK. YEAH. ALRIGHT. WHERE'S MY, SO TWO 50, SO WE HAVE NINE MINUTES. NINE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. OH, HI. BYE. SERIOUS. PROBABLY. NO, I WANTED IT FOLD INTO MY HEART. . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. YOU GOOD? GETTING IN YOUR CAR? YEAH, WE DID START THEM A COUPLE MINUTES LATE TOO. YEAH, I KNOW. WE LET GO ALL, DIDN'T WE? YEAH. OKAY. CAMILLA. HUH? IT WAS COLORFUL. ARE WE ON BREAKDOWN SUN? YEAH, WE'RE ON BREAK. OH. AND SHE COMES BACK FOR EMERSON THEATER TOO, RIGHT? SURE. SHE WAS BACK FOR EMERSON. YEAH. YEAH. UM, ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT DOES DBA MEAN? SEDONA FAIR, INC. DBA STUDENT DOING BUSINESS, DOING BUSINESS ADS. AH, OKAY. I WAS LIKE, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? OKAY. I JUST, NO. OH, D DS, I THINK. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'VE OVER HERE COME, WOW. TOMORROW'S INTERESTING. YEAH. THE LAST TWO HAVE BEEN, I, I WILL TELL THE GROUP I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN HOLISTIC HEALTH MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE. OH, HAVE YOU? OKAY. SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH DIFFERENT MODALITIES AND NUTRITION. AND PATTY, I DON'T THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS COMPLETELY OFF THE MARK. THERE'S A BLURRED LINE, AND YOU SEE IT IN SEDONA BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, RESULT BASED DATA TRACKED PRACTITIONERS, AND SOME OF THE MORE, WHAT I'LL CALL INTUITIVE THINGS. AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN NAVIGATE THAT AND YOU CAN PRACTICE IT. I'M A LONG TERM MEDITATION PRACTI PRACTITIONER, AND I AM INTO FOOD AND SUPPLEMENTS. I'VE USED DIFFERENT HEALING MODALITIES. MM-HMM. , BUT YOU NOTICE I WORKED IN THE WORLD MM-HMM. . AND, AND SO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A VISION LIKE THAT, YOU CAN GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND TRANSMIT THE INFORMATION, BUT A LOT OF IT IS CREATIVE INFORMATION. IT'S NOT ALL NECESSARILY USABLE FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S LIKE SOME SPECULATIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK TO AN ENERGY WORKER AND THEY'LL SAY, WELL, I'VE SAVED LIVES. AND THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT IT'S NOT EVIDENCE BASED. YEAH. AND, AND SO, AND THERE'S NOT ALWAYS A, A DEFINITIVE, LIKE PEOPLE CAN'T NECESSARILY SELF-EXAMINE IN TERMS OF EVIDENCE BASED THINGS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US, COMPLIMENTARY MEDICINE IS A BETTER WAY TO LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FOOT IN EVIDENCE BASED, AND THEN THAT EMOTIONAL COMPONENT, THAT RECOGNITION OF A HOLISTIC HUMAN IS VALID. MM-HMM. , BUT WITHOUT THE GROUNDING IN RECOGNIZING ALL THAT, YOU CAN SEE THE PASSION THAT HAPPENS, AND WE'RE GONNA JUST INCLUDE EVERYTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, IN ONE SENSE, EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED. WHAT WE EAT, OUR ATTITUDES EVERY DAY, INFLUENCE OUR HEALTH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT IT'S PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE, DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE, DOESN'T GO OFF RACING, YOU KNOW, AND DON'T THEIR DOCTOR, AND IT'S ALL THIS. AND, AND SO THERE'S A BALANCE THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GETTING AT . REALLY. I MEAN, [06:05:01] SERIOUSLY, IT'S JUST LIKE THAT, THAT'S SO FAR REMOVED FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND MY BACKGROUND AND THE WAY I THINK THAT, UM, AND, AND AGAIN, WHAT I WAS FOCUSING ON, WHAT I CONSIDERED THE KIND OF SCARY PARTS OF THAT. YEAH. NO, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S VALID BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF DR. SO-AND-SO ONLINE YES. WHO SAYS, YOU KNOW, UH, I CAN CURE, UM, DIABETES IF YOU JUST TAKE MY SUPPLEMENTS THAT I WILL SELL YOU FOR $40 MODELS. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILD, BRINGING IN EXTRA BUSINESSES. I JUST THOUGHT NO, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. WELL, I WAS, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING UP FROM MY EXPERIENCE. YES. I'M GLAD YOU ARE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T NO, NO. I BELIEVE IN THAT EITHER. I'M JUST, I WAS FOCUSING ON VALID, AND IT'S, I MEAN, I'M REALLY SELECTIVE EVEN HAVING COME FROM A FOUR YEAR BACKGROUND OF THAT. YEAH. I'M REALLY SELECTIVE OF WHO I WORK WITH AT ALL AND WHAT I INTRODUCE INTO MY LIFE AND WHAT I DO. AND I HAVE A REALLY HEALTHY SKEPTICISM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU INTRODUCE FIVE PEOPLE TO A FITNESS PROGRAM AND YOU TELL 'EM THIS FITNESS PROGRAM IS GONNA WORK AND TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES, YOU HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT BODIES. YOU HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT EMOTIONAL, MENTAL MAKEUPS, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO ENGAGE WITH THE PROGRAM DIFFERENTLY. AND SO GUARANTEEING RESULTS, THAT'S INTERESTING POINT. THAT'S TRUE. GUARANTEEING RESULTS IS, IS NOT, YEAH. SO THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU SPEAK ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND THESE ARE RESOURCES, AND THEY'RE COMPLIMENTARY AND THEY'RE ADJUNCT TO THINGS, BUT IT'S SO EASY WHEN YOU HAVE A VISION TO, TO FORGET THE EVIDENCE BASED THINGS AND KIND OF THE SCIENTIFIC APPROACH IN TERMS OF WHO WORKS FOR WHAT AND WHAT WORKS FOR WHAT. AND, UM, SO I, I, I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS ON THE MARK, AND THAT'S COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO'S INTO THIS. YEAH. AND YOU'VE BEEN INTO IT FOR DECADES. YES. SO, SO, UM, AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. YOU WEREN'T BEING A SEPAL OLD LADY. YOU WERE BEING SOMEONE WHO HAD HER FEET ON THE GROUND. CERTAINLY NOT AN OLD LADY EITHER. NO. NO. GOTCHA, GOTCHA. BUT YOU COULD SEE, YOU COULD SEE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, CONCERN THERE IN TERMS OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND I THINK, YEAH. YEAH. AND I DIDN'T WANT, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND I, WELL, AND I THINK THOSE QUESTIONS ARE VALID, AND I THINK THEY'RE REALLY HARD TO ASK, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT COMPLIMENTARY MEDICINE IS THERE IS AN INTERNAL PIECE TO IT. IT'S A PERSONAL PRACTICE IN SOME WAYS THAT'S CRAFTED FOR EVERYONE. MM-HMM. . AND, YOU KNOW, WE EACH GET TO CONTINUE TO BE OUR OWN RESEARCHERS AND SKEPTICS. AND THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE TRANSMITTED ALONG WITH ELSE, IT'S THE HEART WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEBODY SAY, THIS SAVED MY LIFE. I, I BELIEVE IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF QUALITATIVE PIECES AND EDUCATION IN TERMS OF ENGAGING WITH THESE THINGS, AND TO JUST INTRODUCE THEM AS SOLUTIONS WITHOUT THAT MM-HMM. KIND OF CAN TRIGGER THAT ALARM. I, I WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF SAYING THIS THOUGH, BECAUSE I TEND TO BE KIND OF A BLUR OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, I TEND TO JUST BE SORT OF A PUT IT OUT THERE PERSON AND, UM, WELL, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE LIKE THAT IN THIS ROOM. . WELL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I KNOW THAT MY, MY FACE IS NOT THE KIND OF FACE THAT IS ALWAYS LOOKS CHEERY AND HAPPY, EVEN THOUGH INTERNALLY I AM THAT WAY, YOU KNOW? BUT I MEAN, I JUST REALLY, I KNOW THAT FACIALLY, I DON'T GIVE THAT, UM, WARM, FUZZY FEELING NECESSARILY. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE. I JUST THINK SO SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY'S PASSIONATE YEAH. IT'S HARD TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. IT'S LIKE, WHERE, WHERE DOES THIS TOUCH GROUND? AND WELL, I APPRECIATE IT WAS IMPORTANT. I, I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. THE REST OF THE GROUP. AM I SPEAKING OUT OF TURN HERE OR DO YOU THINK VALID COMMENT. MM-HMM. . IT JUST GIVES SOME PERSPECTIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO THE WINE FEST? ANYBODY? NO. IS THAT NEXT? YEAH. WHO'S NEXT ONE? FEST BLINDEST. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA GET, UM, SANDY DRAWING. YEAH, PROBABLY SANDY, THAT IDEA. THERE SHE IS. SANDY THERE. HEY, AND AL, CINDY AND AL. WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE US? HERE? RIGHT THERE IN THE, OH MY GOSH. OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO YELL AT ME BECAUSE I'VE GOT, MY EARS ARE PLUGGED. THEY'RE VERY, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO HEAR. SO, HI, SANDY . HI. HELLO. [06:10:01] SO WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING THE WINE FEST, SO HAVE FUN AT US. YEAH. HAVE FUN. WE GOT IT. GOT IT. HAROLD, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE WINE FEST, FOLK? WELL, I ONLY HAD ONE, UM, WHICH WAS, WE HAD ASKED, UM, WHAT COULD YOU DO IF WE COULDN'T FULLY FUND YOU? AND THE ANSWER NEVER SAID YES OR NO, REALLY, IT WAS JUST, WE'VE, IT'S HARD. WE REALLY NEED THE MONEY, BUT WE NEED A YES OR OR NO. I MEAN, IT'S EITHER YOU NEED ALL THE MONEY OR WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THE WINE FASTER. OH, WE WILL HAVE IT ONE WAY. SO IT IS FIND A WAY, BUT SO YOU CAN FUNCTION WITH PARTIAL FUNDING, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S LIKE, IF WE CAN'T GIVE YOU THE WHOLE THING NO, NO, WE UNDERSTAND. YOU HAVE TO GIVE YOU NOTHING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S JUST THAT. SO THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR FOR A WHILE THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IT BECAUSE WE WERE DOING WELL BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE DOING REALLY WELL. AT ONE POINT WE HAD LIKE $50,000 IN THE BANK. WELL, IT'S, THEN WE WENT BACK, WE DID ONE IN, WELL, WE SKIPPED ONE YEAR. WE SKIPPED 2020, BUT WE DID 2021, AND THE ATTENDANCES WAS LOW, AND IT WAS, THE WEATHER WAS TERRIBLE, WASN'T IT? THAT WAS SO LONG. WITH THE MUD AND THE RAIN ON SUNDAY, IT POURED RAIN. SO WE LOST LIKE, ALMOST $30,000 THAT YEAR. UH, LAST YEAR WE LOST ABOUT EIGHT. SO WE'RE GETTING BACK, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AFTER THE PANDEMIC. IT'S JUST, IN THEORY, IT SHOULD SELF-FUND ITSELF. IN THEORY, IT WAS DOING FINE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC . WELL, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SO EVERYBODY, I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE. SORRY, ANNE. SO WHEN YOU, SO EVERYBODY PAYS AN ENTRY FEE. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T, SO I'M SORRY. EVERYONE PAYS A FEE TO GET IN. YES. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SAMPLE WINES AND YOU PAY THE WINERIES, NO, YOU PAY THE FEE TO GET IN TO BE ABLE TO GO AND PUT ANY, WHAT'S YOUR FEE TO GET INTO THE WINE FEST? INCLUDES, IF YOU'RE A DRINKER, WE DO GET PEOPLE WHO JUST COME AND AREN'T GOING TO DRINK OR THEY'RE GONNA SHARE. YEAH. AND SO, AND SO WE, THEY PAY FOR MAYBE ONE, AND THERE'S TWO PEOPLE AND THEY SPLIT IT. BUT THEN ANYBODY WHO'S COMING IN WHO JUST WANTS TO WALK AROUND AND NOT DRINK. SO WHEN, WHEN YOU PAY TO GET IN, YOU GET TASTING TICKETS? ARE WE DOING SIX OR EIGHT FISH? EIGHT. WOW. EIGHT. SO WE USUALLY GIVE THEM AND A WINE AND A WINE GLASS, SIX TICKETS THAT EVERY TICKET IS GOOD FOR A TASTE OF A WINERY. I SEE. AND, AND, AND SO THEY CAN DO THAT, AND THEN THEY CAN BUY EXTRA TASTING TICKETS ONCE THEY'RE INSIDE. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE EVENT, ALL THE WINERIES COUNT UP HOW MANY TICKETS THEY GOT. AND THEN WE REIMBURSE THEM ON A PER TICKET BASIS, A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR AND A HALF. SO THAT, THAT COULD BE 10, $15,000 THAT WE REIMBURSE THE WINERIES FOR SOMETHING, I GUESS THE WINE THEY USED. WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE THEY BRING LOT OF WINE TO GIVE SAMPLES. AND, AND, AND IT IS ABOUT MAYBE 2000 PEOPLE, UH, BY, UM, BY WINE TICKETS. UM, IF WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD EVENT, UM, WE HAVE A SATURDAY AND A SUNDAY, SORRY, ALEX, EXCUSE ME. JUST BUY WINE TICKETS. SO I MEAN, NOW BUY THE, THE, OKAY. EXTRA WINES, THE REGULAR TICKET THAT INCLUDES WINE TASTING. YES. OKAY. BUT IF I DIDN'T, IF I WANTED TO COME AND DIDN'T WANNA TASTE WINE, IT'S $10. I GOTCHA. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW. AND THE, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC PAYS IN ADVANCE. UM, WE SELL A LOT OF TICKETS IN ADVANCE, I THINK. ARE WE 35 THIS YEAR? WE HAVEN'T STARTED, WE HAVEN'T STARTED, WE STARTED SELLING TICKETS JULY ONE. WE START JULY ONE. AND, AND, AND I THINK THE DAY OF THE EVENT, IT'S 45 AND THAT, AND THAT'S COMPETITIVE WITH THE, OTHERWISE THE 35 AHEAD OF TIME. SO AT 35. OKAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO BUY AHEAD OF TIME. OKAY. AND OTHERWISE THEY PAY AT THE DOOR, AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING TO BRING IN A LOT OF OUT-OF-TOWNERS WITH THIS. OH, IT, IT'S PROBABLY 60%, I THINK YOU SAID 80%. YEAH. 70, 80. I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS, IT HAS AN REALLY STRONG, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S, IT'S THE END OF SUMMER, SO IT'S STILL WARMER DOWN THERE THAN IT IS UP HERE. AND SO IT IS AN ATTRACTIVE THING TO COME UP HERE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, IN OCTOBER IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST MONTHS WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF MARCH IN APRIL. AND NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, THIS IS OUR 14TH YEAR. IT'S, IT'S A SIGNATURE EVENT FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA. IT'S THE LARGEST WINE TASTINGS EVENT IN NORTHERN ARIZONA. NO PLACE. DEFINITELY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S BIGGER. YEAH. YOU THINK, WELL, SO PEOPLE SCHEDULE THEIR VACATIONS TO CORRESPOND WITH THE EVENT, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE, THEY MIGHT BE FROM MEMPHIS, YOU KNOW, [06:15:01] BUT, UM, BUT ANYBODY THAT'S STAYING HERE IN A HOTEL, IT'S GONE WILL KNOW, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM. SO IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, YOU MIGHT LEARN SOME STUFF OF YOUR, ON YOUR OWN, IF YOU EVER WISH SO TO WINE FEST.COM. AND IT IS, UH, A VERY, UM, IT'S A FUN EVENT BECAUSE IT JUST ATTRACTS PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST IN, IN THIS REAL SOCIAL MOOD. WE DO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT, UM, PLAYING. WE HAVE A STAGE WITH MUSIC, AND ON SUNDAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BAND, UM, BECAUSE SUNDAY IT, YOU GET A MUCH BIGGER CROWD ON SATURDAY THAN YOU DO ON SUNDAY. SO YOU TRY TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE ON SUNDAY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LOCALS, BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT AS MUCH TRAFFIC. AND, AND, AND, UM, BUT NO MATTER WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE CAN'T GET SUNDAY ATTENDANCE THOUGH TO EVER MATCH SATURDAY. SO, AND DO THE WINERIES PAY YOU TO HAVE A BOOST THERE? THEY DO. OKAY. AND THAT'S OUR FEE THIS YEAR. 300 OR THREE? 300 OR 3 300, 3 53. AND THEN WE HAVE VENDORS. SO, AND WE, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE COST, WHICH IS RENTING OF THE 10 IS OVER 35,000. YEAH. AND THAT'S IF NOBODY SHOWED. OKAY. UM, AND SO THAT'S GONE UP YEAH. SIGNIFICANTLY THIS YEAR. YEAH. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS 10, 12, 13,000 IN INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE NORMAL. AND OVER TIME, IT'S JUST SORT OF MUSHROOM BECAUSE, UH, AND WE HAVE A, A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS, RATHER THAN IT BEING JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF LITTLE TENTS ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE NORMALLY RENT BIG CIRCUS TENTS, YOU KNOW, ONE GREAT BIG HUNDRED BY A HUNDRED AND, UH, 40 FOOT TENT, THAT'S 14,000. AND TRY TO PUT AS MUCH OF IT INSIDE ONE PLACE, BECAUSE THEN IT'S WEATHERPROOF. SURE. BECAUSE IF YOU GO THROUGH ALL THAT WORK, AND THEN THE WEATHER COMES IN, YOU COULD KILL THE WHOLE EVENT. EXCUSE ME. UM, SO, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE TRYING A NEW TENT VENDOR, AND WE CAN TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH, BUT THE IDEA IS TO STILL HAVE, UM, UH, A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF THE EVENT TAKING PLACE INDOORS INSIDE OF A, INSIDE THE BIG TENT INSIDE THE TENTS. UH, IS, BUT IT MAY BE TWO SMALLER TENTS. WELL, WE'RE REALLY RETHINKING HOW WE CAN DO IT FOR A LITTLE LESS MONEY ON THE TENT COST. WELL, THE CIRCUS TENT, THEY WANT 25 GRAND. WE'RE NOT BUYING IT. WELL, THEY WANT 35 THIS YEAR. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE JUST RENTING THE SILLY TENT. BUT THE TENT, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE. PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU BUY YOUR OWN TENT? OH, NO. YEAH. WE'VE USED THE SAME COMPANY AS DO BARRETT AT JACKSON, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE, WE'RE THE ONLY EVENT IN THE VERDE VALLEY THAT WILL, WILL DO THIS. BUT WE'VE SEEN MANY AN EVENT GO HAYWIRE BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAN FOR ADVERSE WEATHER. AND WE STARTED THIS, UM, AT THE AIRPORT IN 2000, UH, EIGHT. AND, UM, WE WERE UP THERE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND THEN MOVED TO POSSE GROUND WHEN THE CITY CHANGED THE ALCOHOL LAWS. MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. WHAT'S A SUCCESSFUL EVENT? I MEAN, WHAT CAN WE SAY? IT IS A SIGNATURE EVENT. IT'S SUCCESSFUL. IT'S A FUN THING FOR THE YEAH, I MEAN THAT IT'S LIKE A, IT, IT'S KINDA LIKE A PARTY FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA, EXCEPT WE DO SAY, IS NO ONE EASILY EXCLUDED FROM THIS. I MEAN, IT'S, UH, NO KIDS COME, UH, WELL, NO, OF COURSE NOT. I MEAN, I MEAN, KIDS, THEY CAN'T DRINK. THEY CAN'T DRINK. BUT KIDS, I MEAN, PEOPLE, PEOPLE WITH THROWS. UM, OKAY. AND WE TRY TO PUT IT IN A PLACE WHERE THERE'S GRASS BECAUSE IT, IT'S A MORE COMFORTABLE SETTING. WE DON'T PUT IT UP ON, UH, BLACKTOP OR ASPHALT. YEAH. WHEN WE WERE AT THE AIRPORT ON GRAVEL OR AS, BUT NOW THIS YEAR WE'LL BE ON THE FALL PURPOSE FIELD, REALLY LIKE THE SOCCER FIELD. AND, UM, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. SO I KIND OF, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, ELECTRICITY, POWER, WATER, UH, TENTS, SECURITY, TRASH, ALL THOSE LOOSE ENDS THAT WILL MAKE YOU GO CRAZY IF IT GOES WRONG. UM, BUT ALL TOGETHER, SANDY AND I STARTED THE WINE FEST IN 2008. SO WE'RE EXTREMELY PROUD OF THIS BECAUSE, UM, WE NOW HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR THAT, UM, PAULA WOOLEY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW PAULA. SHE IS THE ADMINISTRATOR. SHE IS THE WINE PERSON OF THE AREA. AND, AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF THE BURDEN AWAY FROM SANDY AND I, AND WE HAD SOME PLAN A FEW YEARS AGO. HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAVE, UH, A LEGACY THAT CONTINUES, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT INVOLVED? [06:20:01] AND I THINK THERE, WE'VE PRETTY WELL GOTTEN THERE SO THAT IT HAS, UH, IF WE CAN FIND OTHER PEOPLE TO REPLACE THIS NO, WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE IT OVER. . WOULD YOU ARGUE THAT'S THE HARD PART. WOULD YOU, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS IS KIND OF A SHOT IN THE ARM TO GET YOU GUYS REESTABLISHED? YES. IF, WELL, WE HOPE SO. I MEAN, IT'LL, I THINK THIS YEAR WILL BE MORE OF AN INDICATION OF HOW IT WILL GO GOING FORWARD. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I SAY, I MEAN, THE, THE TENANTS DROPPED SO FAR OFF IN 21 WHEN WE HAD IT, WHICH IS WE LOST. BUT YOU THINK THAT HAPPENED, SANDY? IT WAS COVID IN 21. YOU SKIPPED 20 BECAUSE OF COVID. RIGHT. AND THEN 21, WE THOUGHT ABOUT NOT HAVING IT. WE REQUIRED PROOF OF VACCINATION, BUT WE DECIDED WE TRY IT. SO WE TRIED IT THE WAY WE ALWAYS DID. THE ARTS FESTIVAL APPARENTLY DID PRETTY GOOD IN 21. PARDON? THE ARTS FESTIVAL DID GOOD IN 21. THE ARTS FESTIVAL WAS KIND OF DIFFERENT THAN, DOESN'T INVOLVE, IT'S NOT ABOUT WINE. WE'RE ABOUT WINE. THEY'RE ABOUT, SO IS YOUR GOAL TO BECOME SUSTAINABLE AGAIN? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. IT, IT, IT IS. UM, IT'S JUST LIKE JAZZ IN THE ROCKS WAS EXISTING FOREVER UNTIL THEY MADE SOME BIG FINANCIAL ERRORS AND IT KILLED IT. AND, AND AS LONG AS WE CAN BE SOLVENT AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM, AND THIS IS REALLY A WONDERFUL SYSTEM BECAUSE PEOPLE PAY TO VOLUNTARILY PAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO JUST RELY ON SPONSORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO PAY FOR THIS. UM, AND THERE'S A CONSEQUENCE, UM, UH, IT, IT SHOULD BE SUSTAINABLE THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW STILL EXISTS. WELL, AND, AND THAT'S, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT, IT, IT IS AN EVENT THAT INVOLVES ALCOHOL AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A, A FAIRLY PRICEY ENTRANCE. YEAH. AND IF YOU GUYS ARE WORKING TO BECOME SUSTAINABLE AGAIN, I MEAN, TO ME THAT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. AND ASKING THE CITY FOR, YOU KNOW, MONEY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH IS A SIGNATURE EVENT, JUST GIVE YOU GUYS A SHOT IN THE ARM, GET YOU LAUNCHED AGAIN. YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BRING, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS WONDERFUL EVENT IN TOWN AND WITH THE WINE INDUSTRY OF ARIZONA, NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND THE VERDE VALLEY, BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF A CORE DEFINITION OF, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE TO OUR AREA. MM-HMM. , THE SEDONA WINE FEST BECOMES SORT OF, SORT OF THE CROWNING, UH, ACHIEVEMENT OR WAY TO DRAW PEOPLE. CUZ WE MIGHT HAVE 25 WINERIES. OH, YEAH. AND, AND YOU THINK ABOUT, AND THAT MIGHT BE A HUNDRED TO 150 DIFFERENT WINES THAT COULD BE SAMPLED NOW. THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. IT IS. IS THERE ANY LIABILITY ISSUE? WE HAVE TO BUY? WE HAVE TO BUY A LIABILITY INSURANCE, A FANCY POLICY. IT PROTECTS THE CITY OR PROTECTS OH NO, THE CITY IS ALSO INSURED. YES. PROTECTS THE CITY AS WELL. YES. YES. AND US AS BOARD MEMBERS AND, UM, UM, ALL THE CITY, WE'RE ON CITY PROPERTY. $1,700. YOU GUYS WERE OUTTA THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU. YOU LET FUN. GREAT TO SEE YOU. STEPHANIE BYEBYE. THANK YOU. THANKS GUYS. YOU, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY HAD A C3, THERE'RE A C4 ORGANIZATION 5 0 1 FOUR OF SOCIAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S SO CHARITABLE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS DOES NOT SOUND CHARITABLE IN THE LEAST EXCEPT FOR WINERIES, YOU KNOW? YES. SO, UH, SO THAT'S WHY I LOOKED IT UP AND IT'S, YEAH, THANK YOU. WELL, SOCIAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION, WHICH MEANS THAT, UM, WELL, IT, THERE ARE MANY, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A 60 PAGE IRS FORM ACTUALLY THAT DESCRIBES IT WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AS YOU COULD PROBABLY GUESS. BUT, UH, IT'S, UM, I JUST APPLIED FOR A C3 THING FOR THE VILLAGE WALL CREEK'S, UH, COMMUNITY THING. SO I KIND OF KNOW HOW THAT IS. LIKE IT'S, SORRY I WAS WHEEL I WAS SURE I HAD TO GO AHEAD. SORRY. SORRY, KAREN. I WAS SPACED OUT THERE. NEW FACES. HEY MIKE, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. YOU SEE YOU. ME TOO. ALL. SO HOW IS VISUAL ARTS GOING, GOING? IT'S GOING GREAT. WE ACTUALLY, UM, ARE DOING SOMETHING NEW. WE HAVE A SHOW AT THE LIBRARY, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND, UH, GETTING WELL, UH, A LOT OF GOOD ATTENTION AND, UH, GROUPS, UH, ON BIG SATURDAY AND SUNDAY ARE DOING DEMOS OF DIFFERENT ART FORMS. UM, SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA GO, GO. GREAT. SO WHY ARE YOU ASKING [06:25:01] FOR, UH, $2,500 MORE THIS YEAR ALREADY, ACTUALLY? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED FOR LAST TIME. UHHUH AND, AND BECAUSE I GUESS THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS YOU, OH, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, BUT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. UM, THIS IS ALL THREE STILL FOR YOUR MARKETING NOW, RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH. AND I, AND I THINK WE LEARNED, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT REALLY HELPED DRIVE THE LOCAL RESIDENTS. IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE, IN SEDONA AND THE VERDE VALLEY DON'T KNOW WHAT OPEN STUDIOS IS. MM-HMM. , UM, AS LONG AS IT'S 20 YEARS IT'S BEEN GOING ON AND SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE. I KNOW . YEAH. UH, WELL, SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S AN OPEN HOUSE FOR REAL ESTATE. THAT'S WHY WE ADDED ARTISTS TO THE TOP OF THE SIGN BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP AND GO, OKAY, SO SHOW ME THE HOUSE, OR SHOW ME THE STUDIO. OH, IS IT A STUDIO FOR RENT? OH, THERE GO. OH, IT NEVER EVEN OCCURRED TO ME. OKAY. . YEAH. UM, OH. BUT, BUT ANYWAY, UH, REALLY PUTTING JUICE INTO, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA AND, AND, UM, HITTING ALL THE LOCAL, LIKE SEDONA EVENTS.COM AND VERDE VALLEY EVENTS.COM. UH, I THINK THEY, WE HAD A TEAM OF FIVE PEOPLE TOTAL WORKING ON THAT. AND THEY, THEY WOULD DO A POST ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, AND THEN THEY WOULD POST THAT TO ALL THOSE DIFFERENT EVENT, UH, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL 'EM, BULLETIN BOARDS OR MM-HMM. EVENT PAGES. AND I THINK THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY WE GOT THE ATTENDANCE FROM LOCAL PEOPLE UP THE WAY WE DID. WELL, I CAN SEE THAT 1755 AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING HERE IN TOWN. UM, I, THAT'S, THAT'S PHENOMENAL. SO THE 7,500, IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR, PRIMARILY FOR PRINT OR IS IT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU USE THE 7,500 FOR? REFRESH MY MEMORY. UM, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD INCREASE THE PRINT, UH, LOCALLY. SO RED ROCK NEWS AND KUDOS BOTH, UH, HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE, BOTH OF THEM. MM-HMM. , BASICALLY, IF WE BUY ONE AD, THEY WILL GIVE US ANOTHER AD OF THE SAME SIZE, SAME COST. UM, PLUS OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU BUY, UM, AN AD WITH ANY ONE OF THOSE PAPERS, YOU'LL GET A STORY. WHEREAS BIGGER NEWSPAPERS IN THIS, LIKE ARIZONA REPUBLIC, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THEY, THEY DON'T EVEN TALK TO EACH OTHER. MM-HMM. . UM, SO I THINK INCREASING, UH, THE FREQUENCY OF THE ADS IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS WILL ALSO REALLY HELP. AND, UH, THE THING WITH THE RED ROCK NEWS IS RELATIVELY NEW. UM, THEY, IN THE PAST, THEY WEREN'T WILLING TO BE A SPONSOR OR KICK IN ANYTHING TO SUPPORT IT. AND I THINK ONCE KYLE TOOK OVER, UM, WE HAD A MORE FRIENDLY VOICE IN THE MAIN OFFICE AND HE'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. SO I THINK THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TOO. GOOD. OKAY. SO IS THIS 7,500 TO TARGET MORE SEDONA PARTICIPATION? YES. OKAY. IT'S, YEAH, I KNOW YOU DO THAT. AND, UM, I DO HAVE TO, UM, ADD SOUTH WALES NEW TO OUR PANEL. SO I HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, MIKE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OVER THE YEARS PINPOINTING EXACTLY WHERE HIS PEOPLE, HOW HE GETS THESE, THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY GO TO THE STUDIOS, WHO THEY ARE, AND THEY ARE SEDONA RESIDENTS. AND, UM, YOU WERE REALLY ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO DO THE, THE ENTER TO WIN PROGRAM IN TO GET THAT DATA. YEAH. AND IT, AND IT REALLY, I MEAN, IT REALLY WORKS. MM-HMM. , WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT. YEAH. AND WHAT EVENT DO YOU, ARE YOU INVOLVED IN? NO, THE VISUAL ARTS, UH, STUDIO, OPEN STUDIOS, WE'VE BEEN TO THOSE. OH, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. GOT IT. RIGHT, RIGHT. GOT IT. RIGHT. YOU FILLED OUT A LITTLE, I FILLED OUT THE FORM. THAT'S RIGHT. . I DUNNO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT. 30 FOOT GROUND AND TWO PEOPLE WANTED YOU WERE ONE OF 'EM, . AND FUNNY ENOUGH, ONE OF THE LADIES, SHE LIVES IN COLORADO, SHE DIDN'T RESPOND. AND I SENT HER ANOTHER EMAIL. I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE THE WINNER. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE EMAIL , UH, AND NOTHING. SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA DRAW AGAIN. WELL SURE. GO FOR IT. YEAH. , YOU KNOW, THAT'S RECYCLE IT. . YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. RECYCLE. THE OTHER LADY LIVES HERE. SHE'S ALREADY CASHED IT IN. YEAH. SHE'S, I LIKE YOUR, THE MAP. I, I'M GOING TO THE MORE PERIPHERAL ONES. MM-HMM. , OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE EXPLORED THOSE, THOSE PLACES. RIGHT? MM-HMM. . RIGHT. AND THAT MAP HAS BEEN, UH, SOME OF THE ARTISTS HATE IT AND SOME OF 'EM LOVE IT. HMM. AND I KEEP TRYING TO TELL 'EM THE MAP IS ONLY TO GET THEM TO THE GENERAL AREA. THEN THE SIGNS GET THEM, YOU KNOW, TO THE ACTUAL LOCATION. YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T HAVE A STREET MAP THAT BIG. YEAH. [06:30:01] YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH. I LIKE THE THING, THERE'S JUST BIG BLANK WITH AN ARROW, RIGHT. . RIGHT. YOU GET IT OVER THERE. JUST PUT GPS LOCATIONS. MIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US? IF NOTHING? WELL, YOU KNOW, I READ OVER THE FINAL REPORT AGAIN BEFORE I CAME IN. AND, UH, ONE THING I DON'T, MAYBE STRESS, I DIDN'T STRESS ENOUGH, BUT ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS OF OPEN STUDIOS IS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO MAKING A, A TEAPOT OR A, A PAINTING, UH, YOU KNOW, A STAINED GLASS WINDOW. UM, BECAUSE I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 70% OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME HAVE NO IDEA, AND THEY'RE KIND OF FLABBERGASTED BY, OH MY GOD, IT TAKES YOU THAT LONG TO PUT A HANDLE ON A MUG. UM, AND, UH, SO THERE'S THAT ASPECT TO IT. AND THEN ALSO THE IDEA OF SPARKING THE INTEREST OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE STUDIOS TO GO TAKE A CLASS AT SAC OR YAVAPAI COLLEGE OR WRIGHTS RANCH FOR THE, FOR THE CERAMIC PEOPLE. UM, SO WE REALLY TRY TO PROMOTE THAT ASPECT OF IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYWHERE ELSE. YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET DEMOS AT AN ART FESTIVAL, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME AS GOING TO SOMEBODY'S STUDIO AND SEEING WORK IN PROGRESS AND, UM, GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE, WHEN I OPEN UP A BUCKET OF GLAZE AND IT'S PINK AND I TELL SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA BE THAT DARK BLUE RIGHT THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT THAT FLABBERGASTS THEM AS WELL. OVAL COMPOUND. SO HAVE ALL OF YOU GUYS GONE TO OPEN STUDIOS? ABSOLUTELY. OH YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH. HOW COULD YOU MISS? YEAH. SIGN SUCKED YOU IN. I CAN'T WAIT. I HAVE ONE WAY OUT IN CAMP VERDE ACTUALLY. YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT TO MY PLACE ON, I HAVE ANOTHER HOUSE NOW ON QUARTER HORSE. OH, OKAY. SO, AND I SEE THE SIGN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HER STUDIO, I THINK IS RIGHT UP THE ROAD. YEAH. WE DID THAT. THE LAST ONE. YEAH. DID YOU? YEAH. FIRST TIME. UM, BEN'S THE POOR POTTERS. YES. YEAH. HE'S ALL ABOUT EDUCATION. HE, HE, UH, HE WAS DON WRIGHT'S LAST APPRENTICE. OH. AND HE WORKED FOR DON FOR SIX YEARS AND WAS THERE WHEN DON DIED. UM, AND HE'S JUST A, HE'S REALLY, REALLY A SMART, HE'S A KID IN MY MIND. HE'S LIKE, I WOULD GUESS MID THIRTIES, BUT HE'S NOT ONLY A GREAT ARTIST, HE ALSO KNOWS TONS ABOUT MARKETING. SO HE, HE ACTUALLY IS A BIG HELP. I LIKE THE WAY IT'S MORE THAN ONE DAY MM-HMM. . SO IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, MAYBE THE NEXT, RIGHT. MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND SOME PEOPLE, WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO TRY TO DO EVERY SINGLE STUDIO. OH. OH MY GOODNESS. OH, MY ONE GUY'S DONE IT FIVE TIMES. OH MY GOSH. OH MY GOSH. . WOW. SO DO YOU SEE STAYING TO THE, UH, ONCE A YEAR NOW INSTEAD OF YEAH. YES. RIGHT. YEAH. IT WAS JUST, CUZ IT, IT'S MOSTLY ME THAT DOES IT. AND I JUST WAS GETTING BURNED OUT ON DOING TWO OF THEM AND, UH, GOT TO THE CONCLUSION THAT LIFE'S TOO SHORT AND WE WANT TO TRAVEL MORE MM-HMM. AND PLUS HAVING THEM NOT RUN TOGETHER ALLOWED US TO GET THE WEBSITE AND THE BROCHURES. THEY WERE DONE IN EARLY FEBRUARY. USUALLY THEY'RE DONE THE 1ST OF APRIL. UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE OUT, MAIL 'EM TO PEOPLE, UM, GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, REFER 'EM TO THE WEBSITE EARLY ON. UM, AND I THINK THAT ALSO MADE A DIFFERENCE. UM, SO WE, WE, WE MOVED THE LE UH, THE DEADLINE FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY FROM JANUARY 10TH TO NOVEMBER 30TH IS, SO THAT EXTRA MONTH AND A COUPLE OF DAYS REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. GOOD. YEAH. EASIER ON EVERYBODY. PROBABLY THE ARTISTS TOO. YEAH. TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE TO WELL, AND, AND THE ARTIST THAT WE USE, SHE DOES THE WINE FESTIVAL, THE ARTS FESTIVAL, , I MEAN, SHE'S, SHE'S IN HIGH DEMAND MM-HMM. . UM, AND SHE DOES GOOD WORK, YOU KNOW, SHE REALLY DOES. SHE'S VERY CREATIVE. AND ALL THREE OF OUR WEBSITES LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT. YOU'D NEVER KNOW IT WAS THE SAME ARTIST. YEAH. OH WOW. OKAY. GOOD FOR HER. YEAH. EXCELLENT. OKAY, MY FRIEND. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. YOU TOO. ALL RIGHT. GOOD LUCK. SEE YOU LATER. SEE YOU. I'VE DONE THE BEN ROTI EVENT. HE HAS BEEN OUTTA HIS PLACE AND HE HAD LIKE FOUR OR FIVE POTTERS OUT THERE. THIS WAS MAYBE A YEAR AGO THIS TIME OF YEAR. AND THEY WERE DOING DEMONSTRATIONS AND THERE WAS KIDS WHO WERE HELPING, AND YOU GOT TO SEE LIKE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT POTTERY BUILDING STYLES, AND IT WAS REALLY FUN. COOL. YEAH. YEAH. REALLY WELL DONE. DID YOU GUYS GET MY FEEDBACK ON THE 1501 FOUNDATION, THE FACT THAT CHIEF MISSOULA DOES SUPPORT IT AND THAT I TALK TO THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THEY'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THIS THING. THE [06:35:01] 1501? YES, I DID GET THAT. SO YOU GOT THAT. I GOT THAT ONE. OKAY. MM-HMM. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT? I LOOKED UP THEIR, UH, THE BUDGET FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. MM-HMM. , THIS IS LESS THAN ONE 10TH OF 1% OF THEIR BUDGET. MM-HMM. , THEIR BUDGET IS 22 MILLION. WELL, IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT, IT'S NOT IN THEIR BUDGET. NO, IT ISN'T. THIS IS AN ANCILLARY, THEIR BUDGET, BUT THE FIREFIGHTERS, YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH. I'LL USE IT. HAVE A SEAT HERE, RIGHT HERE IN FRONT. YOU GUYS WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND YEAH. I'M ASHLEY PRICE. I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE 1501 FOUNDATION, BRINGS YOGA, MINDFULNESS, FIRST RESPONDERS HERE IN SEDONA. OKAY. UH, I'M MATT PRICE, ASHLEY'S HUSBAND, UM, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE 1501 FOUNDATION. I'M ALSO AN ENGINEER PARAMEDIC WITH THE SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT. AND, UM, YEAH, THAT'S WHO I AM. . GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S CASEY DUBER. I'M A PSYCHIATRIC MENTAL HEALTH NURSE PRACTITIONER, AND I OWN AND OPERATE A PSYCHIATRIC CLINIC IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA. OH, EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU, UH, HAVE A SPECIALTY IN YOUR PRACTICE? YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY A REVITALIZED KETAMINE CLINIC. MM-HMM. . AND SO TRAUMA RELEASED THROUGH EGO DISSOLUTION MM-HMM. . BUT, UM, I WORKED AT THE GUIDANCE CENTER AND I WAS A CHILD PROVIDER AND I WORKED AT FLAGSTAFF MEDICAL CENTER AS WELL IN THE INPATIENT AND OUTPATIENT UNITS AND STUFF. GOOD. OKAY. BEEN IN EXCELLENT HEALTHCARE SINCE 2004. WORKED IN THE ICU AND C D ICU, BUT, UM, YEAH, I REALLY LOVE WHAT I DO, SEE PEOPLE FIGURE IT OUT EVERY DAY. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. REALLY REWARDING WORK. YEAH. EXCELLENT. OKAY. PANEL. I, GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE GET 10 MINUTES WITH YOU. UM, OUR QUESTIONS GO FIRST AND IF WE WROTE OUT QUESTIONS, WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. SO, SO THIS IS, UM, THIS WOULD BE YOUR SECOND YEAR DOING THIS? YES. THE FIRST YEAR WAS COMPLETELY VOLUNTEER. WE, UM, HAD THE PROGRAM GOING WITH STONE FIRE DISTRICT FOR ONE YEAR. AND WHAT WAS YOUR RERE YOUR FIRST YEAR? WHAT DIDN'T YOU? UH, WE TAUGHT 66% OF THE DISTRICT, SO IT WAS OPT IN OR OPT OUT TO SIGN UP FOR CLASSES. AND WE HAD 66% SIGN IN, SIGN UP. AND OUR CLASSES ARE 75 MINUTE CLASSES WHERE WE HAVE, UH, AN INSTRUCTOR IN THE, UM, AT THE FIRE STATION DIRECT TO THE FIREFIGHTERS. WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO, UM, ALL OF THE CREWS THAT, THAT WANT TO SIGN UP AND, UM, A TOTAL OF 212 ACTUAL IN-PERSON CLASSES. AND THAT GAVE US THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE INSTRUCTOR KIND OF HELP THE GUYS MOVE THROUGH ANY INJURIES, UM, GIVE ANY GUIDANCE TO, UH, ANY, UH, THINGS THAT THEY COULD CHANGE TO HELP THEIR PRACTICE AND HELP FOCUS ON THE MENTAL HEALTH AND STRESS RESPONSE THROUGH THOSE CLASSES. DOC, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL THAT? YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. THERE'S SO MUCH STRONG EVIDENCE IN MY EDUCATION. I FOCUSED ON THE IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL WELLNESS, TRANSLATING TO MENTAL WELLNESS. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE MIND BODY CONNECTION. THE BODY KEEPS THE SCORE OF VESSEL BAND DE COX WORK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT HE IS A WORLD RENOWNED PSYCHOLOGIST WHO'S REALLY REITERATED THE IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL WELLNESS TO TRANSLATE TO MENTAL WELLNESS. WE KNOW THAT A LARGE BAR PERCENTAGE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS DEAL WITH SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA FROM BEING THE FIRST ON SCENE. AND THROUGH PHYSICAL MOVEMENT THERAPIES LIKE YOGA AND MINDFULNESS BASED STRESS REDUCTION TECHNIQUES, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE A REAL PHYSIOLOGICAL RELEASE OF THAT TRAUMA. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE INFLAMMATORY CALOMINE MARKERS REDUCE THROUGH REGULAR PRACTICE THROUGH, UH, ACTIVITIES SUCH AS YOGA AND MINDFULNESS BRACE, DRESS REDUCTION. WHAT EVIDENCE HAVE, WHAT FEEDBACK HAVE YOU GOTTEN FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS IN HERE? WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT, WELL, OUR FOUNDATION ACTUALLY JUST GOT AWARDED FROM THE FIRE DISTRICT, THE OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION OF THE YEAR. WE GOT THAT FOR 2022. YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS REALLY, SO THAT WAS A PRETTY AMAZING, UM, I'VE HAD FIREFIGHTERS TELL ME THAT WHEN THEY, ON THE DAYS THAT WE PRACTICE YOGA, WHEN YOU WALK INTO A FIRE STATION, YOU LOOK AT THE TRUCK AND YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTS AND YOU'RE ALWAYS ON YOUR TOES WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN, AN EMERGENCY TO HAPPEN. [06:40:01] AND IT'S THIS CONSTANT STRESS RESPONSE. THEY SAY ON DAYS THAT WE PRACTICE YOGA, THAT WEIGHT IS LIFTED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, AND IT'S EASY FOR THEM TO STEP INTO THE SITUATION CLEARLY INSTEAD OF STEPPING INTO IT FROM A STRESSED REACTION. THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE A, UH, QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WE'VE ASKED GUYS TO KIND OF GIVE, UH, FROM AN ANONYMOUS STANDPOINT TO GIVE US JUST SOME FEEDBACK. AND WE'VE HAD STUFF FROM ANYWHERE FROM THE, THE LIGHTER FEELING JUST IN GENERAL FOR THE NEXT 24 TO 48 HOURS THAT GUY'S WORKED TO, UM, ONE OF OUR APPLICANTS WAS A 20 YEAR VETERAN OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DISTRICT, AND HE SAID THAT THE DAYS THAT HE PRACTICES YOGA ARE ONE OF THE ONLY DAYS THAT HE CAN FEEL BETTER WITH HIS PREVIOUS INJURIES, UM, FROM ALL HIS ON, ON THE JOB INJURIES. AND SO THERE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE STRESS STUFF AND THE PHYSICAL PORTION OF IT THAT IS, UH, SUPER HELPFUL. AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD EXCELLENT FEEDBACK FROM IT SO FAR. SOME OF THE CREWS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE, WOULD, WOULDN'T LIKE IT ACTUALLY ARE HER BEST CUSTOMERS, BEST SUPPORTERS. SO YEAH. BOY, YOU COULDN'T, I WAS WITH A PARAMEDIC FOR 10, OVER 10 YEARS AND YOU COULD'VE KNOCKED ME OVER WITH A FEATHER WHEN I READ YOUR THING. I GOING, OH, YEAH, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THEN I STARTED CALLING SOME OF THE GUYS AT THE, AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GOING HOME. NO, MAN, WE JUST LOVE THIS. YEAH. SO, YEAH. AWESOME. SERIOUSLY. NO, IT WAS, IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD. UM, WHAT, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT PUTTING, UM, YOUR PROGRAM IN THEIR BUDGET? NO, NO. YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY A LOT. UH, WE, THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THAT QUESTION. MM-HMM. , UM, THE WELLNESS BUDGET FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS $7,000. THAT'S FOR EQUIPMENT. THEY, THEY BUDGET, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF OTHER STUFF. AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, BUT I'M NOT RE EXACT, CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE BUDGETS ARE FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS, BUT WE HAVEN'T YET. AND THAT'S WHY WE FORMED A NONPROFIT TO, TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S MOST ACCESSIBLE TO THE GUYS WHO NEED IT THE MOST. WE DON'T WANT ANY, ANY HURDLES. UM, WE WANT AS FEW HURDLES AS POSSIBLE, AND IF WE CAN ENSURE THAT THERE'S A SEPARATION FROM THE EMPLOYER, THE PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF THE PTSD AND FIRE, UH, SERVICE IN GENERAL IS THAT THERE'S A STIGMA. YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG GUY. I REPEL OUT OF A HELICOPTER, UM, AND I HAVE TO ALWAYS CARRY THAT MASK. AND SO THROUGH THE FIRE SERVICE IN GENERAL, IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS HAVE THAT MASK ON, EVEN IF YOU'RE HURTING INSIDE. AND THE 1501 FOUNDATION WAS FOUNDED FOR ONE OF MY BROTHERS WHO, UH, BASICALLY GOT ME INTO THE FIRE SERVICE. HE, UH, WAS A PARAMEDIC IN THE WHITE MOUNTAINS, AND, UH, HE, YOU KNOW, TOOK HIS OWN LIFE TO SUICIDE. AND ABOUT 10 YEARS LATER, WE WERE TALKING TO HIS FAMILY WHO WERE REALLY CLOSE WITH STILL. AND, UM, HIS DAD TOLD ME A WEEK PRIOR TO, UM, TO JUSTIN'S DEATH, HE HAD TOLD HIM THAT HE HELD 140 PEOPLE IN HIS ARMS AS THEY PASSED AWAY. AND HIS FATHER SAID, YOU KNOW, HAD I KNOWN WHAT I KNOW NOW ABOUT P T S D, MAYBE I COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING FOR, TO LOSE MY SON WHO NOW HAS FOUR ORPHAN CHILDREN. UM, AND SO JUSTIN FISHER IS, UH, HIS IDENTIFIER WAS 1501, AND THAT'S WHO WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY WANTED TO CARRY ON THE NAME WITH AND, UH, AND START THIS TO HELP GUYS ON THE FLOOR WITH THEIR POSTERIOR RHEUMATIC STRESS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE. AND ONE OF THE, SO TAKE THAT BACK. YEAH. I'M SORRY. UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR AWARD WAS THAT IT WAS AT ZERO COST TO THE DISTRICT AND WAS WRITTEN IN WITH THE AWARD MM-HMM. , AS YOU GUYS KNOW, GOVERNMENT IS, UH, SCRUTINIZED A LOT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE GOAL, WHICH IS TO ENSURE, UH, QUAL QUALITY MENTAL HEALTH AND, UH, QUALITY, UH, I'M SORRY, STRESS RELEASE. STRESS RELEASE FOR THE GUYS WHO ARE OUT THERE SERVING THEIR COMMUNITY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SUCCESSFUL. YEAH. WELL, I'LL BACK YOU UP ON THAT BECAUSE I DID FOR HIM, WHAT YOU GUYS DO FOR THOSE GUYS ON MANY MORNINGS WHEN HE WOULD COME HOME AND SOMEONE HAD DIED IN HIS ARMS, SO YEAH. I GET IT. I TOTALLY DO. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT THE PRACTICE GIVES THEM THAT SPACE TO RELEASE BEFORE THEY TAKE IT HOME TO THEIR FAMILY. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I, I'VE LIVED THIS WAY FOR 15 YEARS NOW, AND THAT, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T [06:45:01] WALK THROUGH THAT MUCH PAIN AND NOT HAVE A WASH OUT OF HER ON YOU. AND WE'RE HOPING TO, AND YOU'RE THINKING THAT IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FUNDS THIS, THERE WOULD BE SOME BIG BROTHERS PAYING FOR THIS ASPECT. CERTAINLY IS A POSSIBILITY OF THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HEALTH, UM, THERE'S THE WHOLE HIPAA ASPECT THAT SOME EMPLOYERS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. AND GRANTED, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE DISTRICT DID HAVE DID FUND IT, WE WOULD BE A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PAYING FOR OUR SERVICES AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST BE THAT, UM, BUFFER FOR THAT, I BELIEVE. MM-HMM. . AND OUR INTENTION WAS STARTING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS TO GET IT IN THERE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE YEAH. WITHOUT THOSE BARRIERS. AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. AND YEAH, ONE OF THE HURDLES THAT WE'VE ALSO SEEN IS THAT, UM, YOGA'S A PRACTICE THAT IS BEST DONE WEEKLY, DAILY AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO HELP WITH THAT STRESS. AND, UM, LIKE ONLINE PROGRAMS ARE EASILY GO-TOS FOR A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS. AND WITHOUT AN INSTRUCTOR THERE TO HELP YOU, UM, AND GUIDE YOU TO YOUR PERSONAL BODY, IT'S EASY TO JUST KIND OF FAKE IT AND OR NOT CHOOSE TO. AND SO ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS LOOK FOR THAT LOWEST COST TO MAYBE PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE, AND I CAN SAY PERSONALLY THAT I GET A BETTER PRODUCT. OH, SURE. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE, OUR GOAL IS. MAY I ASK TWO, A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS? ONE, IS THERE A FIRE CHAPLAIN? NO. NO. SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE A CHAPLAIN. AND, AND TWO, I MEAN, DOES, WELL, WOULD THE POLICE WOULD ALSO LIKELY BENEFIT IN THIS SORT OF THING. AND WITH FIRE, I THINK OF YOU USUALLY BEING WHEN YOU'RE NOT OUT DOING SOMETHING IN ONE SPOT YEAH. WITH POLICE, I KIND OF THINK OF THE OPPOSITE. YEAH, VERY TRUE. THEY COME ON SHIFT, I HEAR WE MONITOR THEIR RADIO, THEY SHOW UP ON WORK AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GOING CALLS AND, UM, IT'S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT. WE 100% WANT TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO, UH, TO ALL FIRST RESPONDERS, WHETHER IT BE DISPATCH, DISPATCHERS, POLICE, UH, FOR AGENCIES THAT DON'T RUN THEIR, OPERATE THEIR OWN, UM, AMBULANCE SERVICE EMS WORKERS AS WELL, BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE ON THE FRONT LINE OF IT. AND THE REQUEST IS RIGHT NOW FIRE. YEAH. MM-HMM. . THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. WE NEED TO GET STABLE AND FIRE BEFORE WE CAN BRANCH OUT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A, A QUALITY PROGRAM. OKAY. SO YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT $20,000. IF WE COULD ONLY GIVE YOU PARTIAL FUNDING, IS THAT STILL HELPFUL? YES. YEAH. UM, WITH A CONTRIBUTION OF $20,000, IT WOULD PAY DIRECTLY FOR 250 CLASSES OF THE 435 THAT WE PLAN TO TEACH. SO ANY FUNDING THAT CAN COME FROM THE CITY WILL GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE CLASSES AND NOT OVERHEAD. SO ESSENTIALLY, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GIVE US, WILL GO TO AS MANY CLASSES AS IT WILL FUND. OKAY. SO YOU'LL JUST SCALE THE NUMBER OF CLASSES. EXACTLY, YEAH. AND THERE WILL BE MORE IN KIND DONATIONS. YEAH. WHAT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE YOU GOING AFTER? ACF, SEDONA, THERE'S A BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD MENTAL HEALTH GRANT RIGHT NOW THAT'S OPEN. UM, ACF SEDONA, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE FOR 10,000. WE PLAN TO GO FOR 10,000 FROM BLUE CROSS, BLUE SHIELD MENTAL HEALTH, AND THEN MAYBE REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. AND LIKE THE LOCAL YOGA COMMUNITY, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A BIG ONE HERE AND FUNDRAISE THROUGH THERE. HOW MANY INSTRUCTORS DO YOU HAVE? ACTUALLY CURRENTLY? ME, . I HAVE ONE THAT I'M GOING TO HIRE AS SOON AS WE GET FUNDING. SHE'S TRAUMA TRAINED, SHE'S WORKED WITH VETERANS, SHE'S BEEN THROUGH A BSR. SHE IS OUTSTANDING. AND I, I KNOW MOST TEACHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST A PROBLEM OF FUNDING AND WE WANNA ENSURE THAT WE HAVE QUALITY TEACHERS IN THE ROOM. SURE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE? CALLING OF THEM AND YEAH. ASKING FOR FUNDING? I THINK THERE WAS A GRANT THAT JUST OPENED UP THAT WE GOT, UM, NO NEWS FROM JUST RECENTLY. NO, I, ON THE HEALTHCARE, WAS THAT THE ONE THAT BLUE CROSS THE CHANNEL? I'M SORRY. YEAH. OKAY. ALSO TRY HEALTH FIRST. HEALTH FIRST. HEALTH FIRST. HER NAME IS SANDRA KOWSKI. AND REACH OUT TO ME AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO GIVE HER A CALL. YEAH, THAT'S AMAZING. IS THAT HERE? YEAH, SHE'S ACTUALLY OUT OF, UM, SHE WORKS OUT OF FLAGSTAFF, BUT SHE FUNDS IN THIS AREA. OKAY. WE JUST, UH, LINKED UP WITH BLACKFIRE AS WELL. PARDON ME? WE JUST LINKED UP WITH BLACKFIRE AS WELL. GETTING BETTER. OH, FLAG. FIRE. YEAH, FLAG. YEAH. NO, I THINK SHE'D BE GOOD AT THAT. SHE'LL [06:50:01] BE PROBABLY A LOT EASIER THAN AN AGE. OKAY. THAT'S AMAZING. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THEY THINK YOU'RE THE BEST, SO KEEP IT UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK NOT. AND WE'RE RIGHT ON TIME, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMING IN. YEAH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF THE DAY. HEY, SEE YOU GUYS. SHE MUST BE STRONG OX THOSE CLASSES. I CAN'T IMAGINE DOING ALL THOSE CLASSES. OH MY GOODNESS. OH, WOW. I KNOW. YEAH, YOU'RE SAYING TOO MACHO FOR YOGA, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . YEAH, THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, AND THEY'RE PARTICIPATING, BUT THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE LIVING IN THE STATION'S. IMPRESSIVE. AND, UM, YEAH, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE GYM, SO THEY MAKE IT STARTED REALLY SLOW. I CAN SEE THAT. THEY'VE GOTTA SEE THAT IT'S, YEAH, THE GUY'S ON. OH, HE'S DOING IT WELL. YEAH. YEAH. I, NO, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT JUST TURNING YOURSELF INTO A PRETZEL. THERE'S A LOT OF STRONG HOLDS. YEAH, NO, AND IT'S, THAT'S WHAT I SAID WHEN I READ THAT THING, I GO, OH YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. . THAT'S WHY I CALL. I SAID, WELL, I KNOW A COUPLE GUYS. I COULD CALL . COME ON IN. THANK YOU. HI. HI. WHERE I HEADED HERE? WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN THE HOT SEAT, SIR. OH, THE HOT SEAT. OH. WARMED UP FOR YOU. EXCELLENT. . OKAY. THANKS FOR COMING IN. WHAT WOULD HAVE HOPE HOUSE, UM, PANEL QUESTIONS FOR FIRST. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE. YES. I'M ED BAUER SOCKS. UH, I AM, UH, VERY ACTIVE IN FUNDRAISING FOR HOPE HOUSE OF SEDONA, AND, UH, I WROTE THE APPLICATION AND, UH, BROUGHT IT IN AND, UH, SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. PANEL, ANYTHING? NO, THIS IS PLAYGROUND. PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? YES. WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, PUT A, UH, LITTLE PLAYGROUND IN FOR, UH, OUR, UH, RESIDENT CHILDREN. UH, WE, UH, FEEL LIKE, UH, THAT WILL BE GOOD ON A COUPLE FRONTS. IT WILL GIVE EXERCISE TO PEOPLE WHO COULD USE IT. UH, ALSO, UH, A LITTLE ATTRACTIVE, UH, SIDE TO OUR FACILITY FOR, UH, OTHER PEOPLE WHO WE'RE, UH, CONSIDERING, UH, DINA DEIT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES, UH, ESSENTIALLY ALL OF OUR REFERRALS. UH, SHE KNOWS THE, UH, HOMELESS CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND, UH, SO AS WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM IN FOR AN INTERVIEW, UH, EVERYTHING THAT, UH, WILL MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE FOR THEM TO COME INTO OUR FACILITY AND, UH, TRY TO MAKE THE TRANSITION, UH, IS A GOOD THING. IS WHEN YOU SAY YOUR FACILITY IS, IS IT A, A PRIVATE RESIDE? I MEAN, IS IS IT A RESIDENCE OR? DESCRIBE IT TO US, PLEASE. YEAH, I'LL, UH, GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. UH, WE ACTUALLY GOT OUR START, UH, WHEN, UH, WE WON THE COMPETITION FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT SEVERAL YEARS BACK, UH, THAT IT IS ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY AND BY ALSO YAVAPAI COUNTY. UH, SO WITH THAT $336,000, UH, WE BEGAN A FUNDRAISING DRIVE TO BRING OUR TOTAL NEEDS UP TO $858,000, WHICH WE ENABLED US TO BUY A LOT AND BUILD, UH, A HOUSE. AND THAT HOUSE IS BUILT AROUND THREE RESIDENT APARTMENTS, THE KITCHEN, UH, AND THEN ANOTHER APARTMENT FOR OUR HOUSE MANAGER. UH, SO THE FAMILIES COME INTO ONE OF THOSE APARTMENTS. UH, WE TRY TO GIVE THEM ALL OF THE SERVICES, UH, THAT THEY NEED. SO THERE'S AN ASSESSMENT PERIOD. UH, WE TRY TO FIND OUT, UH, CAN WE HELP PEOPLE HUNT FOR A JOB? UH, CAN WE HELP, UH, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT BENEFITS FROM THE GOVERNMENT THEY COULD QUALIFY FOR? UH, DO THEY HAVE, UH, NEEDS IN THE WAY OF, UH, THEIR CHILDREN'S TUTORING? UH, DO THEY EVENTUALLY NEED [06:55:01] A CAR BECAUSE, UH, THEY COULD GET A PLACE TO LIVE A LITTLE APARTMENT IN COTTONWOOD, BUT THEY CAN'T GET IT HERE, BUT THEIR JOB'S HERE. UH, SO THE NEEDS ARE ALL INDIVIDUAL BY FAMILY, AND WE TRY TO WORK THEM ALL AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THEMSELVES THROUGH A TRANSITION AND READY TO MOVE ON. AND I, UH, THE EMAIL I, OR THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD AS YOU, IT ALL VARIES OF COURSE, BUT YOU RUN, MAYBE, UM, EACH FAMILY STAYS WITH YOU ANYWHERE FROM YEAH, WE, WE ASK THAT THEY COMMIT TO A THREE MONTH PERIOD UNLESS THEY ACTUALLY CAN MOVE ON QUICKER THAN THAT. UH, BUT WE ALSO MAKE AVAILABLE A SECOND THREE MONTHS IF THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS. AND WE BELIEVE THE CHANCES ARE REALLY GOOD FOR THEM TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. UH, BUT THEY AREN'T HERE THERE YET. AND SO THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK TO HELP US WITH OUR PROJECT. UH, WHETHER THAT'S A BANKER TO ESTABLISH SOME BANK, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR THE FAMILY, WHETHER THAT'S TO GET A JOB OR A NEW JOB, UH, WHETHER THAT'S TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE NEED AND, UH, WE CAN HELP WITH. AND I, I THINK YOU SAID HOW MANY FAMILIES, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE JUST GOTTEN STARTED, BUT HOW MANY FAMILIES HAVE YOU TRANSITIONED? YEAH, WE'VE TRANSITIONED THREE SO FAR, AND WE HAVE ONE READY TO GRADUATE, WE THINK ANY DAY NOW. VERY CLOSE. GOOD. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS, UH, FOR A VERY SHORT TIME. UH, AND WE HAVE TO LEARN AS WE GO. UH, CAUSE UH, THERE ARE SURPRISES AND SOME DISAPPOINTMENTS, UH, BUT THERE ARE SUCCESSES AND THAT'S WHAT KEEPS US MOVING FORWARD. HAVE YOU LOST ANY FAMILIES ALONG THE WAY? HAS THERE BEEN ATTRITION? WE HAVE. UM, AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE EXPERIENCE GOING FORWARD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE HAD HIGH HOPES FOR. BUT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, UH, UH, REHAB IS A TOUGH THING. AND, UH, MANY ARE GOING THROUGH A REHAB EXPERIENCE AND, UH, SOMETIMES THEY WORK OUT AND THINGS BLOW UP AND, UH, ALL WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, WISH THEM WELL, BUT THEY CAN'T BE, UH, UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCE, UH, WITH US. OF COURSE. AND SINCE THEY'RE IS REFERRED BY IT FROM A TEACHER, YOU SAID, IS YOUR, IS YOUR MOST PROLIFIC REFERRAL SOURCE? YES. UM, SO THEY ALL HAVE, ALL THESE FAMILIES HAVE CHILDREN? YEAH. THE, WE ACTUALLY DESCRIBE OURSELVES AS, UH, WE TAKE CARE OF HELPING TRANSITION HOMELESS CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. UH, SO DEAN AND DWI, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, OPENS UP THE SCHOOL AT NIGHTS, UH, PRETTY MUCH ONCE A WEEK OR MORE TO ALLOW, UH, PEOPLE TO COME IN, GET SHOWERS, UH, GET THEMSELVES IN HIGH PERSONAL HYGIENE, SO SHE GETS TO KNOW THESE FAMILIES. WHERE'S THE SCHOOL? I'M SORRY? WHERE IS, WHERE'S DINA'S SCHOOL? SEDONA OAK CREEK SCHOOL DISTRICT. OH, OH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUILDING? YEAH. OKAY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL? YEAH. OH, THE HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY. THERE WE GO. YEAH. SO ACTUALLY OUT ON THE WEBSITE, UH, OUR WEBSITE, HOPE SEDONA.ORG, UH, SHE SPOKE ELOQUENTLY AT OUR GROUNDBREAKING AND, UH, WE RECORDED THAT, VIDEOTAPED IT, AND IT'S OUT THERE. UH, BUT SHE TELLS OUR STORY VERY WELL FOR US BECAUSE IT'S PARTLY HER STORY AND PARTLY OUR STORY, BUT SHE IS OUR REFERRAL SOURCE. GOOD. OKAY. THEN CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY CLEAR WAY TO PUT IT. YEAH. WHAT'S YOUR, UM, WHAT'S YOUR SUCCESS LOOK LIKE IN FIVE YEARS? UH, HOPEFULLY IT WILL LOOK VERY BRIGHT. UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE BELIEF THAT AS WE LEARN OUR WAY AND SUCCEED WITH OUR FIRST FACILITY, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A SECOND FACILITY. WE'RE ALREADY BUILDING UP REVENUES AND SETTING ASIDE FOR THAT HOPEFUL CONCLUSION, UH, AND THAT WE WILL HAVE THEN A TRACK RECORD OF A CONTINUOUS CONVEYOR BELT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM DINA DEWITT [07:00:01] COMING INTO OUR FACILITY. UH, WE ACCOMPLISH THINGS WITH THEM AND OUR VOLUNTEERS HELP THEM, UH, PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, UH, AND THEY MOVE ON TO, UH, TO A FUTURE. SO WE DON'T KNOW, UH, BECAUSE, UH, EVERY, EVERY, UH, RESIDENT IS A NEW, UH, CHALLENGE, GOOD THINGS, BAD THINGS, BUT, UH, WE'RE LEARNING AS WE GO. AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY SINCE WE WERE ABLE WITH OUR DONORS AND ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS HERE IN SEDONA AND THE AREA, UH, WE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO, UH, AS WE, AS WE LEARN AND GROW. GOOD QUESTION. ANYTHING ELSE, PAM? ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D CARE TO SHARE WITH US? UM, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK, UH, YOU'VE GIVEN ME A CHANCE TO TELL MY STORY BY ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, UH, WE WILL, UH, QUALIFY FOR A GRANT. UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, REALLY GOOD LUCK OVER THE YEARS. UM, THERE WAS A THING CALLED, UH, A COMMUNITY THRIVES, WHICH WAS PUT ON BY THE GANNET NEWSPAPERS AND ARIZONA REPUBLIC. AND THEY INVITED, UH, NONPROFITS FROM ARIZONA TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A FUND DRIVE DURING A 26 DAY WINDOW BACK IN, UH, 2021, AND TO GET OUR DONORS TO COME IN WITH MONIES DURING THAT 26 DAY WINDOW. UH, AND WE MANAGED TO GET OUR DONORS TO, UH, BRING IN $46,000, WHICH MADE US THE MOST SUCCESSFUL, UH, APPLICANT AND, UH, PARTICIPANT IN THEIR COMMUNITY THRIVES PROGRAM. AND THEN OUR REWARD FOR THAT WAS THEY TOSSED IN ANOTHER X THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, UH, TO, UH, SHOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY RECOGNIZED THAT WE HAD, UH, THE DONORS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, AND WE HAD PROVEN OUR POINT. EXCELLENT. GOOD POINT. CONGRATULATIONS. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. LISTEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN, ED. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD ONE. THANK YOU. I LOOKED AT THEIR HOUSE PLANS ONLINE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO A LITTLE VIRTUAL TOUR OF THE HOUSE IN, CUZ I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS HOW THAT WOULD WORK. MAYBE. I THOUGHT MULTIPLE FAMILIES AND, YOU KNOW, FOUR BUNK BEDS TO A ROOM KIND OF THING, YOU KNOW. WOW. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. YEAH. I REMEMBER WHEN THEY GOT THEIR CB BG GRANT. OH. OH, I THINK SHE'S ONE OFF CITY COUNCIL. OH YEAH. COME ON. CITY COUNCIL WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AT THEIR GROUNDBREAKING. AH, OKAY. HI. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? HI, AM DOING WELL. HOW ARE YOU? GREAT, THANK YOU. HEY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS EMERSON AND I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME NOW? JOHN. JOHN, YES. VERY NICE MEET. HI AGAIN. JOHN CAMILLA IN TRAINING . REMEMBER YOU SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE IN THE WORKSHOP, SO I REMEMBER YOU. YES, ABSOLUTELY. WELL, WELCOME JOHN TO THIS PART OF, OF THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. PANEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JOHN? JOHN? WHAT, UM, WHAT SOCIALLY, UH, EDUCATIONAL YEAH. ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING FOR US THIS YEAR? WHAT YOU'RE DOING? YES. SO OUR, OUR BIG FOCUS IS INDECENT. IT'S GOING TO BE A MUSICAL, IT IS KIND OF A BIGGER PRODUCTION PIECE, UM, THAN WE TYPICALLY DO. IT IS FOCUSING ON THE JEWISH AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS AND KIND OF THE RIPPLE EFFECTS AFTERWARDS. SO FOR ME, COMING FROM THE EAST COAST, THERE'S A LOT OF JEWISH REPRESENTATION AND A LOT OF THINGS. AND I'VE NOTICED IN ARIZONA THAT REPRESENTATION ISN'T AS FULL. AND FOR ME THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE WITH THE INCREASE OF JUST UNFORTUNATELY HATE CRIMES IN THE UNITED STATES, DIRECTED TOWARDS THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, [07:05:02] TO NOT REPRESENT THAT IS TO ADD TO THE PROBLEM SO FOR ME, THAT'S WHY THIS PRODUCTION IS OUR GRANT. . MM-HMM. , THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HELP FOR, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A, IT'S A TONY AWARD-WINNING SHOW. IT'S BEEN ON BROADWAY AND OFF BROADWAY. AND IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE REALLY, WHEN CAMILLA AND I SAT DOWN AND PARSED OUT THIS SEASON, SHE WAS LIKE, WHAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO PRODUCE ON YOUR OWN? AND IT WAS THIS SHOW. SO, UM, JUST FOR EMERSON IN GENERAL, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HAVE MORE REPRESENTATION OF THINGS NOT FOUND IN ARIZONA IN ORDER TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY HERE. AND SEDONA IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT. HAVE YOU, UM, HAVE YOU, UM, TALKED TO RABBI AL ALICIA? I HAVE NOT. I HAVE NOT TALKED TO ALICIA YET. UM, BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET HER INVOLVED WITH OUR TALK BACK SESSIONS AFTERWARDS AND REALLY KEY INTO THOSE IMPORTANT PIECES IN THE SHOW THAT MIGHT GO MISUNDERSTOOD OR UNNOTICED BY A COMMUNITY THAT ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT. UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT LISA LINSKY, WHO'S ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS. OH, IS CORE IS SHE GONNA BE IN IN THE PRODUCTION? YES. SO WE ARE REACHING OUT TO HER, UM, ACTUALLY LATER TODAY, TO OFFER HER SOME STUFF. BUT YEAH, SO FOR ME, FOR THIS SHOW, IT'S, IT REALLY IS, WE NEED TO BROADEN SEDONAS VISION A LITTLE BIT MORE. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF COMEDIES AND WE'VE DONE SOME VERY SERIOUS AFRICAN AMERICAN PLAYS, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS THAT IS DIRECTED TOWARDS OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY HERE. MM-HMM. , WHICH IS QUITE LARGE. YEAH. QUITE. AND, AND VERY ACTIVE. EXACTLY. SO WE, WE WANT TO ENGAGE IN THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE MM-HMM. AND GET CONVERSATIONS GOING SO THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CULTURAL LEXICON THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SHOW. MM-HMM. , ARE YOU, UM, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH YOUR, YOUR THEATER LOCATION. ARE YOU, YEAH. HOW ARE YOU DOING ON THAT? SO, WE, WE HAVE LEFT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN DONE. WE, WE ARE OUT OF THERE. WE WERE OUT OF THERE, MAY 31ST. UH, WE ARE LOOKING, WE DO WANT TO ENGAGE THE SEDONA AUDIENCE MORE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBILITIES HERE. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, THE BIG PARK COMMUNITY SCHOOL AND SEEING IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE SEDONA OAK CREEK SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WORKING OUT SOMETHING THERE. GOOD. AND ENGAGING STUDENTS AS WELL. ARE YOU ARE, I KNOW CAMILLA, AND YOU AND CAMILLA ARE, UH, I KNOW YOU'LL, YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT. OH YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY. SO, UM, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A HANGUP? YEAH. SOMETHING GOING ON. YEAH. WELL, WE HAVE RENTED THE COURTYARD SPACE AS OF RIGHT NOW, OVER AT THE COLLECTIVE. OKAY. JUST IN CASE. SO WE DO HAVE THAT AS A CONTINGENCY. MM-HMM. . UM, SO IT WOULD BE AN OUTDOOR PRODUCTION, WHICH WE'RE, BUT I'LL WORRY ABOUT JUST OCTOBER. IT'S GONNA BE MONSOON TO GET IN , SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT. BUT, UM, WE WILL BE APPEARING IN FRONT OF THE SEDONA OAK CREEK SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD MM-HMM. TO GO OVER USAGE OF THE BIG PARK COMMUNITY SCHOOL MM-HMM. AND SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY FOR US. OKAY. GOOD. WELL, I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. YEAH, DEFINITELY. WHAT'S THAT? DOES THE SEATING LOOK LIKE THERE? WHAT'S THE SO IT'S KIND OF NICE CUZ IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. IT IS, UH, OPEN SEATING SO WE CAN SET UP CHAIRS ANY WHICH WAY AND INCORPORATE THE AUDIENCE ANYWAY WE CAN. YEAH. SO, AND WE HAVE ALL OF THE SEATS THAT WE HAD PURCHASED PRIOR. SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE A GREAT ASSET IN THIS NEW SPACE. MM-HMM. . AND SO WITH THIS FUNDING, YOU CAN LIKE REDUCE THE TICKET PRICES OR, SO THAT IS THE HOPE. THE HOPE IS THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO COVER CERTAIN ASPECTS ALREADY, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE EMERSON POOL . AND SO WE CAN REDUCE THOSE PRICES DOWN AND GET MORE AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION. UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INDICATED TO US THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE FOLKS THAT WORK HERE BUT DON'T LIVE HERE IN SEDONA THAT DO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SEDONA ACTIVITIES. THE PRICE WAS A DIFFICULT POINT FOR THEM. SO WHAT IS YOUR PRICE? UM, SO TYPICALLY IT'S 35 TO 65, BUT 35 BEING THE BASE LEVEL. SOME FOLKS JUST DON'T HAVE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RECESSION COMING. IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S POINTED OUT TO US, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS. AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN SOMEWHAT ADDRESS THAT AND ASSIST WITH LIKE, STUDENT PRICING AND SEDONA LOCAL PRICING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW YOUR, YOUR DATA COLLECTION METHODS ARE, ARE GOOD. OH, YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HAS THAT NAILED DOWN. OH YEAH, DEFINITELY. [07:10:01] LIKE CORRAL PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR. YEAH. . AND, UH, YOU'VE GOTTEN THE SEDONA, UM, THE SEDONA NUMBERS GOT UP WAY UP. YEAH. UM, I WILL SAY THE LAST SHOW WE DID UY, WE FOCUSED MARKETING MOSTLY IN SEDONA. MM-HMM. . AND THAT HELPED TREMENDOUSLY. UM, AND REALLY GETTING THE ACTORS OUT IN SEDONA WAS ALSO A HUGE HELP. MM-HMM. . SO. GOOD. GOOD. I'M REALLY PLEASED. YEAH. WE WANNA CONTINUE DOING THAT. DONE WELL OVER THE YEARS. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE PANEL? THE, UM, ARE YOU RECRUITING ACTORS FOR THIS PRODUCTION? UH, INTER YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY OR, YEAH, SO, UM, THE DIRECTOR HAS GONE AHEAD AND CAST A FEW THAT ARE NATIONAL AND ONE INTERNATIONAL IN CANADA. MM-HMM. . BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY IN OUR MUSICIANS AND IN OUR ENSEMBLE TO BEAT SEDONA LOCALS. I SEE. OKAY. THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR. MM-HMM. . YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL WE HAVE, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE MINUTES, SO IF YOU HAVE, WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YEAH. WHERE YOU'RE GOING. UH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL WORKING WITH CAMILLA. I'M STILL LEARNING AND, AND GROWING WITH HER, WHICH IS GREAT. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR 15 YEARS, SO WE'VE REALLY HAVE THAT STRONG RELATIONSHIP. AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE HER AS A MENTOR. UM, AND ESPECIALLY SHE HAS SO MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE HERE IN SEDONA. I'M A TRANSPLANT. SHE ASKED ME TO COME OUT HERE AND I DID. AND SO FOR ME IT IS, YOU KNOW, OUR FUTURE IS ABOUT HELPING THE COMMUNITY MORE SO THROUGH THEATER, MORE SO THROUGH THESE PIECES THAT WE CHOOSE AND HELPING, HELPING, HELPING IN WHAT WAY? YEAH. HELPING BRING THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DISPARITIES OF UNDERSTANDING OF DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, A, A GOAL OF MINE JUST WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR IS TO FIND A NATIVE PLAYWRIGHT. I NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT IS FROM HERE THAT WRITES ABOUT HERE. MM-HMM. . AND WE NEED TO PUT THAT INTO FOCUS FOR PEOPLE. CUZ AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LIVE SOMEWHERE ALL YOUR LIFE AND STILL NOT KNOW THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU. INTERESTING. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG GOAL JUST WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR. SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT IN THE NEXT GRANT CYCLE. GOOD. SOUNDS GREAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, WHERE WE CAN BUILD OUR ARTS COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF PERFORMING ARTS, I THINK THE BETTER. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT VISUAL ART AND I LOVE SEEING IT, AND I LOVE THAT WE'RE AS A COMMUNITY BUILDING ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL THINGS. AND I THINK THERE IS AN, A NICHE FOR PERFORMING ARTS, FOR DANCE, FOR BLACK MUSIC, ALL OF THAT, THAT WE CAN COMBINE TOGETHER TO MAKE SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS THAT SEDONA GETS TO HAVE ITS NAME ON. WELL, YOU'RE, I KNOW THAT EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BROUGHT FORTH A, A NICHE PRODUCT WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, TYPES OF THEATRICAL REDUCTIONS YOU DO AND THE, THE TOPICS THAT YOU, UH, BRING FORTH. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE, I HAVE A FORMAL THEATER EDUCATION BACKGROUND, WHICH IS GREAT. CAMILLA DOESN'T, SO SHE CHOOSES DIFFERENT THINGS THAN I'LL CHOOSE. SO WE'LL SEE KIND OF THE SHIFT HAPPENING. UM, I'M A LITTLE MORE SUBVERSIVE THAN SHE IS IN TERMS OF, UH, I WON'T TELL YOU THE LESSON RIGHT UP FRONT. I WILL WAIT AND KIND OF SEE THAT YOU GET IT AT THE END, SO. MM-HMM. . ALL RIGHT. OKAY. INTERESTING. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SWITCH THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE CAMILLA SUPPORT AND THE CITY OF SEDONA HAS BEEN JUST IMMENSELY HELPFUL. I THINK THEY SAID LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WITH EMERSON SINCE THE BEGINNING AND JUST SEEING THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD, LIKE THAT GROWTH DOESN'T HAPPEN JUST BY US DOING STUFF. IT HAPPENS BY DONORS AND BIKE GRANTERS THAT REALLY SHOW UP AND HELP US BUILD THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. OH, GOOD. YOU PUT OUT THAT CARROT NOW I WANT TO SEE WHERE IT GOES. . YES. NO, I'M LOOKING SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME. I WOULD LOVE TO MEET PEOPLE, SO. EXCELLENT. YEAH. WELL, WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, . IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, SO, YEAH, IT'S GOOD. AND YOU CAME FROM CONNECTICUT. CONNECTICUT, YEAH. I WAS GONNA SAY, I WAS GONNA SAY CONNECTICUT. YEAH. SO, CAUSE REMEMBER THAT'S WHERE CAMILLE WAS. WELL, YEAH. A LONG WAY FROM HOME. OH YEAH. NOPE. SHE GOT ME WHEN IM AT 15 AND HERE I AM. OH, YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A GREAT JOURNEY. YOU KNOWN TOMMY STOFF? NO, I DON'T. UH, WE'RE IN CONNECTICUT. HE WROTE THE MOVIE AND DIRECTORS SEDONAS THAT THE MOVIE HE DID SEDONA AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHERS. YEAH. BUT I THINK HE AND MARK, HE'S MOVED. YEAH, HE AND MARK MOVED. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHERE, I THINK THEY WENT BACK EAST SOMEWHERE. [07:15:01] SO BACK EAST. YEAH. BUT HE WAS HERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS. YEAH. NO, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REALLY ODDLY WEIRD CONNECTICUT COMMUNITY HERE, . IT'S LIKE PEOPLE THAT I HAD NEVER MET, UH, KRISTEN LAER, WHO DID OUR DANCE FOR AND HELPED WITH GREAT GASBY AS WELL. SHE WAS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME AND I'M LIKE, I NEVER MET YOU. AND WE MEET IN SEDONA. SO IT'S WONDERFUL. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN A SMALL WORLD. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT BEING HERE. . THANK YOU JOHN. YES, VERY MUCH. WELL, THANK YOU CHRIS. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEET YOU WITH YOU 1 0 1. YES. AND WE'LL SEE YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. YES. SEE YOU SOON. BYE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST. HMM. SO STEPS TO RECOVERY DIDN'T COME BACK, HUH? MM-HMM. NO, THEY GOT A BLOCK GRANT THIS YEAR, SO THEY WERE INELIGIBLE ACTUALLY. AH, OKAY. UH, THIS YEAR TO APPLY THOUGH. I'M SURE WE'LL SEE THEM NEXT YEAR. LAURIE? UH, HOMELESS ALLIANCE. WE HAVE ONE LEFT. IT'S, UH, LITTLE EARLY SOMETHING. IT'S A LITTLE EARLY. IT'S A LITTLE EARLY. HAS FEW MINUTES. UM, SINCE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE, WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO, IF YOU COULD, IS ANY CHANGES YOU WANNA MAKE TO YOUR MATRIX. AND IF YOU WOULD BE SO KINDNESS TO ADD UP YOUR LOWES FOR ME, I'D APPRECIATE IT. AND JUST PUT THE TOTAL ON THE END. I'LL SAVE YOU FROM HAVING TO ADD THEM UP TONIGHT. AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN OVERALL SCORE ANYMORE. I MENTIONED THAT. MM-HMM. , WE'VE GOT, I DON'T THINK I PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT. AND SO IF YOU COULD JUST ADD UP ALONG THE ROAD AND GIVE ME THE TOTAL AND THEN TOMORROW, UM, I'LL HAVE THAT SHEET READY TO GO AND, UM, KAREN AND TERESA ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO PROJECT THAT. OKAY? MM-HMM. . YEP. AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL EMAIL IT TO YOU. YEAH. I'LL PUT IT UP WITH, ON MY LAPTOP. HOOK MY LAPTOP. WE'LL HAVE IT. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL JUST START IN, START EATING THE OUTFIT. ONE BITE AT A TIME. WAIT A MINUTE. UM, I LOST SOMETHING. HOW DO, HOW DO WE PUT OUR TOES ONTO FOOT? JUST ON HERE. ARE WE GONNA GET A, SO I HAVE TO HIT ENABLE EDITING OR SOMETHING? OH, OH, I SEE YOU. DO YOU, IS IT STILL ON YOUR DUE DOC? IS IT STILL ON YOUR, YOU HAVE YOUR, DO YOU HAVE IT MANUALLY OR YOU GOT IT ON YOUR I ACTUALLY, IN FACT, I DID DOWNLOAD IT, UM, AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING WITH IT, SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM. OKAY. SO, UM, YEAH, IF YOU COULD ADD IT UP AND SEND IT ACROSS. CAN YOU? YEAH, NO, I GOT IT. WHEN CAN YOU GET IT TO ME? CAUSE I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO CREATE A WHOLE DIFFERENT MATRIX TONIGHT. REALLY? WITH YOUR TOTALS. YEAH. BECAUSE WHAT I DO IS TOMORROW I'LL TAKE ALL OF YOUR TOTALS AND I'LL PARSE THEM OUT INTO A LIST GOING FROM, UM, HIGH, LOW, THE SCORES HIGH, LOW. MM-HMM. . AND FROM THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE START. THEN ALLOCATING OUR FUNDS ON THAT. SO YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU THE, CAN YOU SEND YOU THIS VERSION THAT YOU CAN PLAY WITH? I DON'T NEED TO PLAY WITH IT. ALL I NEED IS JUST ANYTHING. EVEN IF YOU TAKE THE, UH, PRINT IT OUT AT HOME AND SCAN IT. OH, OKAY. I'M SO TONIGHT. YEAH. YOU WANT THE TOES? IT'S TONIGHT. I GOTTA PUT THIS TOGETHER TONIGHT. OKAY. SO I CAN HAVE IT TO THEM BY 7:00 AM TOMORROW. I WAS WONDERING WHAT I WAS GONNA BE DOING TONIGHT. , YOU'RE GONNA BE VERY BUSY. . I'M NOT GOING TO THE CITY. NO, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU THAT LONG. DO YOU HAVE YOUR, DO YOU HAVE THESE PART, THESE THINGS FILLED? YEAH, I GOT, I GOT, I GOT YOU WANT PUT A BLANK PRINT COPY? NO, IT'S RIGHT. WE GET ALL THE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE. OKAY. OH, YOU JUST NEED TO TYPE THEM IN THE SPREADSHEET THEN. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TYPE THEM IN. NO, I'VE ALREADY GOT 'EM. WELL, YOU GOT 'EM, SO JUST GO AHEAD. ALL I HAVE TO DO, YOU DON'T NEED, I DON'T NEED ALL THIS. YOU DON'T NEED THAT PART. NO, I JUST NEED TO KNOW. YEAH. SEDONA AREA VETERAN COMMUNITY OUTREACH. TOTAL 20. YOU DON'T NEED ANY DOLLAR RECOMMENDATIONS. NO, I DO NOT. THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T REALLY BOTHER WITH THAT. WE DO THAT AS A GROUP. SO WE DO THAT AS A SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T NEED THE THE I DON'T NEED PART. I DON'T NEED THIS PART CUZ ALL I NEED IS THE TOTAL. ALL I NEED IS YOUR TOTAL. OKAY. SO LIKE ED DON VETERANS COM COMMUNITY HOUR, WHAT I WILL DO IS GO FOR ME 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 12. YEAH. YEAH. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH 20. YEAH. YEAH. AND JUST ALL THAT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH 'EM. JUST PUT 'EM ON THE SIDE THERE. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ON THIS END. YOU CAN STICK 'EM RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT BY. I THINK I JUST NEED THE TOTAL FOR EACH ORGANIZATION EITHER [07:20:01] SIDE. I DON'T CARE. OKAY. YEAH. EITHER SIDE. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST NEED YOUR TOTALS FOR EACH ORGANIZATION WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR LAURIE WATCHING. SO WE ACTUALLY HAD EVERYBODY SHOW UP TODAY. WE DID. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. OH WELL SHE'S NOT, SHE'S NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE UNTIL 4 0 5. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. IT WOULD BE NICE NOT TO HAVE HELICOPTER EVERYBODY ON TIME, BUT TOMORROW WE'LL TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S INELIGIBLE OR YEAH. ALL THAT. YEAH, EXACTLY. HERE SHE IS. I'M HI LADIES. HELLO. HAVE A SEAT. SO QUIET HERE. YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES PLEASE. AND MY NAME IS LORI MOORE. I'M WITH SEDONA AREA HOMELESS ALLIANCE. AND I'M MALLORY BRAND. DITTO, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. SO, OKAY. PANEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THESE LADIES? NO. THIS IS JUST THE COLD BLUE PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING. RIGHT. WAS IT A TOUGH WINTER FOR YOU? COLD BLUE WIRES THIS YEAR? IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, A COUPLE THINGS CHANGED. HOW MANY PEOPLE WE SERVED. UH, WE ONLY SERVE ON COLD NIGHTS TO THOSE WHO REACH OUT TO US. WE DON'T GO OUT LOOKING FOR PEOPLE. MM-HMM. MORE PEOPLE REACHED OUT THIS YEAR. THE COLD STARTED SOONER THIS YEAR COUPLED WITH THE, UH, RAIN AND THEN ALSO INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ROOMS WERE AVAILABLE MORE OFTEN, WHICH IS A LITTLE WORRISOME CUZ THAT MEANS TOURISM WAS DOWN, USUALLY AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME, AROUND FILM FESTIVAL, SPRING BREAK. AND THOSE TIMES, THERE ARE NO ROOMS AVAILABLE FOR US THIS YEAR. WE ALWAYS FOUND ROOMS WHEN WE HAD THE MONEY TO SUPPORT IT. HMM. HOW DO THEY CONTACT YOU? USUALLY BY TEXT. MOST OF THE PEOPLE. SO PEOPLE THAT CONTACT US ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY ENROLLED IN OUR PROGRAM AND MOST PEOPLE USE TEXT. THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET AHOLD OF US QUICKER THAT WAY. DID YOU, WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND MA ANY MORE COOPERATING? UM, UM, HOTELS, ACCOMMODATIONS? GREENTREE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THREE ADDITIONAL HOTELS. UM, THE WHITE HOUSE WAS ONE OF THEM AND THEY, UH, REMODELED IT TO BE MORE LIKE THE GREEN TREE. AND THEY O OWNED TWO ADDITIONAL ONES. WE FIND THEY ARE THE MOST ACCOMMODATING TO US. UM, WE'VE SHELTERED THERE MORE OFTEN, SO THEY ARE REALLY AWARE OF WHAT OUR PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE. THEY KNOW WE ARE ON PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES, THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE. THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE SIGN ADDITIONAL AGREEMENTS, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE HOTEL ROOMS. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE. WE HAVE MAINLY STAYED WITH THEM. MM-HMM. , WE CAN RENT AT OTHER HOTELS, BUT IT'S JUST SO MUCH NICER WHEN YOU'RE BEING WELCOMED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE ALSO. MM-HMM. , I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAID ENROLLED WITH, YOU ALREADY TALK ABOUT THAT. WHAT DID, SO YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ENROLLED IN YOUR PROGRAM? YES. SO SEDONA AREA HOMELESS ALLIANCE HAS EXISTED FOR SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS MM-HMM. . AND WHEN SOMEBODY APPROACHES US AND WOULD LIKE SERVICES OF ANY KIND, EVEN IF IT'S THE FOOD PANTRY THAT WE HAVE, EVERYBODY FILLS OUT AN INITIAL APPLICATION. THAT APPLICATION IS ALSO A WAIVER OF LIABILITY FOR US. UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO INITIALLY. ONCE THEY DO THAT AND AND AGREE TO OUR GUIDELINES, THEN THEY'RE ENROLLED IN OUR PROGRAMS THAT COVERS US NO MATTER HOW WE SERVE THEM, WHETHER WE'RE HANDING OUT ITEMS OR SHELTERING THEM OR REFERRING THEM TO OTHER, UH, SERVICES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IN ORDER FOR ANYBODY TO EVEN COME TO OUR FOOD PANTRY, HAVE A SLEEPING BAG OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE OFFER, THEY MUST FILL OUT THE WAIVER OF LIABILITY WITH THEIR INFORMATION ON IT. AND HOW MANY ACTIVE, UM, CLIENTS DO YOU HAVE CURRENTLY? CURRENTLY ACTIVE IN SEDONA, WE HAVE ABOUT 200. AND WE HAVE BEEN QUOTING [07:25:01] THE NUMBER 125 FOR FAR TOO LONG. AND AS THE SCHOOL HAS RECENTLY COME OUT WITH ACCURATE NUMBERS AND THE FOOD BANK HAS COME OUT WITH MORE ACCURATE NUMBERS, WE HAVE REALIZED THAT WE ARE SERVING UNDUPLICATED ABOUT 200 HOMELESS MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN SEDONA. 200 INDIVIDUALS. YES. AND IT COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE, SO AN EXAMPLE, DEANNA AT THE HIGH SCHOOL JUST PUT OUT THE NUMBERS OF 39 HOMELESS CHILDREN THEY'RE SERVING. WE SERVED NONE OF THOSE 39. WE SERVE 15 OTHER HOMELESS CHILDREN THAT GO TO SCHOOL. WOW. SO THOSE NUMBERS WERE NOT EVEN IN OUR COUNT. AND YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THERE'S AT LEAST ONE PARENT WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE CHILDREN. AND SO 200 IS STILL A LOW NUMBER THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING. MM-HMM. , LAURIE, TELL CAN YOU JUST THIS, HOW DO THESE PEOPLE, WHY ARE THEY HERE? I MEAN, WHERE DO THEY KIND OF, WHAT, WHAT'S THEIR STORY? DO YOU, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE STORIES OF THESE FOLKS THAT ARE, BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE THESE 200 PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. THEY HAVE NO HOMES, BUT THEY STAY MM-HMM. . RIGHT? THEY STAY. YES. SO WHY? WELL, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY USED TO BE HOME IN SEDONA. OKAY. UM, ALSO A HOMELESS COMMUNITY IN SEDONA IS NOTHING NEW. THE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE HAVE BEEN ON OUR STREETS FOR AS LONG AS 30 YEARS. MM-HMM. . UM, THE, I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER WHY PEOPLE STAY. UM, BUT IT IS COMMON FOR SOME PEOPLE TO COME TO SEDONA FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. SOME PEOPLE COME FOR SPIRITUAL REASONS OR JUST VACATIONING OR WHATEVER. THAT'S HOW SOME PEOPLE COME HERE. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS, UM, SO LET ME EXPLAIN. WHEN WE SAY SOMEBODY IS A SEDONA LOCAL HOMELESS MM-HMM. , WE MEAN THEY'VE BEEN ON OUR STREET FOR THREE YEARS OR LONGER. MM-HMM. , WE LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR LESS TIME AS, UH, MORE TRANSIENT. MM-HMM. , UM, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT REASON. COULD YOU GIVE US THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE NUMBERS? WHEN I'M TELLING YOU THE NUMBERS WE SERVE, THOSE ARE THE LOCAL HOMELESS? NO, THE THREE YEARS ARE LONGER. YEAH. THAT'S THE 200, THE THREE YEARS OR LONGER SINCE YEAH. THAT'S THE 200 NUMBER. WOW. SO IN ADDITION, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. SO IN ADDITION TO WHO WE HAVE LIVING IN SEDONA YEAR ROUND, WE HAVE TRANSIENTS THAT COME THROUGH. THEY STAY MAYBE THREE MONTHS OR SO. THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY. WE NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN. OF COURSE WE SERVE THEM DIFFERENTLY. OUR MAIN MISSION FOR OUR LOCAL HOMELESS IS TO RECONNECT THEM BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SOMEBODY WHO'S TRANSIENT DOESN'T HAVE THAT DESIRE. SO WE JUST KEEP THEM SAFE BASICALLY. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, SAFE AND LOVED. THEN THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY. THEN WE HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER GROUP THAT'S NOT IN THE 200 THAT WE CALL TRANSIENT LOCAL BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE IN SEDONA EVERY YEAR FOR AT LEAST HALF THE YEAR THEY GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. D NOT A WHOLE GROUP, BUT JUST DIFFERENT. AND THEN THEY RETURN EACH YEAR. SO WE KNOW THOSE PEOPLE, THEY RECOGNIZE US, WE CONTINUE TO SERVE THEM. SO AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY WE HAVE TO SERVE BECAUSE THEY, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE OF A LIKELIHOOD THAT WE CAN CONNECT THEM TO THE COMMUNITY. MM-HMM. . UM, SO WE SERVE ALL THREE OF THOSE GROUPS COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CODE BLUE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE WOULD BE MOSTLY TRANS YOUTHS. OH NO. MOSTLY LOCAL. NO, MOSTLY LOCALS. I THINK WE ONLY HAD TWO TRANSIENTS THAT WE SHELTERED THIS PAST YEAR. REALLY? YEAH. OKAY. AND REALLY THAT'S BECAUSE OF, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHELTER MORE TRANSIENT PEOPLE BECAUSE OF HEALTH REASONS. UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THE, WHAT FUNDS WE HAVE AND THE AVAILABILITY OF ROOMS MOSTLY THAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON LOCAL. UM, IT'S REALLY HEARTBREAKING WHEN THE POLICE CALL US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS JUST COME TO OUR TOWN AND WE CAN'T JUST PUT THEM IN A ROOM. CUZ THAT'S ANOTHER THING. WE DON'T OFFER SINGLE ROOMS TO PEOPLE. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT. SO WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR PEOPLE REALLY WELL. WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO CAN ROOM WITH ONE ANOTHER SUCCESSFULLY. AND BELIEVE ME, THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY. AND THAT CAN CHANGE WEEKLY . SURE. WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR PEOPLE REALLY WELL TO SHELTER THEM. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUALLY SEDONA AREA HOMELESS LOUNGE ROOMS. THEY ARE NOT THEIR PERSONAL ROOMS THAT WE RENT. MM-HMM. [07:30:01] ARE, IS THIS A, YOU HAVE 199 ON YOUR APP, WHICH CORRESPONDS PERFECTLY WITH YOUR 200 NUMBER OF 200. UM, ARE THEY, ARE THEY, ARE SOME OF THEM EMPLOYED? ALL OF THEM EMPLOYED? DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? MY ESTIMATION WOULD BE 80% OF OUR LOCAL S ARE EMPLOYED. MM-HMM. , BUT DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY MM-HMM. TO GET INTO A PLACE. AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MONEY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE THINK OUR SERVICE IS VERY VALUABLE. MM-HMM. , WE HAVE TO GET OUR PEOPLE TO THE POINT OF WANTING TO GET BACK IN MM-HMM. . SO A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T IN A PLACE BECAUSE OF A LOT OF FEARS. CAN I PAY THE RENT? YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. MM-HMM. , WHAT AM I GONNA DO WHEN APS SHOWS UP AND TURNS MY ELECTRICITY OFF AND MM-HMM. AND SO MANY OTHER REASONS. SO WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE HEALTHIER TO THE POINT THAT'S OUR MAIN PROGRAM. MM-HMM. WHERE WE STRENGTHEN PEOPLE AND ONCE THEY GET TO THAT POINT, THEY START LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . UM, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKELY GONNA BE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN US TELLING THEM, YOU NEED TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE. YEAH. OH. SO DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH INTEGRATING FOLKS BACK IN? WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT SUCCESS. WE HAVE MORE SUCCESS WHEN WE'RE IN A BUILDING. SO WE LEASED A BUILDING ON CONTRACTORS ROAD A FEW YEARS AGO AND, UH, WE LOST THAT LEASE. WELL, THEY WOULDN'T RENEW THE LEASE, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS A BUSINESS ON THAT SAME STREET THAT COMPLAINED ABOUT US BEING THERE. WHEN WE WERE IN THAT BUILDING, WE HAD THE MOST SUCCESS WHEN WE WERE IN THAT BUILDING. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 36 PEOPLE WHO WENT OUT AND FOUND THEIR OWN PLACES TO LIVE. SO WHEN THEY GO IN AND WE'RE IN A BUILDING, THEY COME IN, THEY SMELL FOOD, THERE'S HOT MEAL ON THE TABLE FROM NOON TILL FOUR, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO STRENGTHEN THEM IN DIFFERENT AREAS. AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THEY START MAKING HEALTHIER CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE MAKING HEALTHIER CHOICES. BUT YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FEEL SAFE TO MAKE A HEALTHY CHOICE. AND SOMETIMES JUST IN HEAL MAKES A DIFFERENCE. NUTRITION MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. NUTRITION, I MEAN, REALLY A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE OUT THERE CAN'T EVEN THINK STRAIGHT BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW WE FEEL WHEN WE'RE LIKE TWO HOURS PAST LUNCH AND WE'RE ALL CRABBY AND WE CAN'T THINK. AND MOST OF OUR PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THAT A LOT OF THE TIME. UM, WE WERE ADDRESSING ALL THAT WHEN WE WERE IN A BUILDING. NOW THAT WE'RE COMPLETELY STREET OUTREACH AT THIS MOMENT, IT'S HARDER TO GET PEOPLE TO THAT POINT. AND ANOTHER POINT ABOUT THAT, JUST THE WORD STREET OUTREACH, IT FEELS LIKE, YES, WE HAVE TO DO THIS, PEOPLE NEED THESE THINGS. BUT THE MORE YOU USE THE WORD OUT AND YOU'RE PUSHING OUT, THE MORE YOU'RE KEEPING PEOPLE OUT THERE. WHEN WE'RE IN A BUILDING AND THEY WERE COMING IN AND THEY STARTED FEELING LIKE IT WAS THEIR SPACE, THAT'S WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE. SO IT'S ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE IN. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST WORKING ON KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING FOR OUTREACH BUS AT THE LIBRARY ON JULY 7TH. SO WE'LL SEND YOU ALL INVITATION. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. YOU. GOOD JOB. ANYTHING ELSE, FOLKS? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANNA SHARE OUR CA IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT TIME DO WE HAVE HERE? I THINK BEFORE WE OUT. YEAH, RIGHT ON TIME. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. LAURIE, IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ELSE, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SAY. PLEASE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY. REALLY. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING TO THE PLATE. AS I SAID WAYNE VOICEMAIL, I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. THANK YOU. NO, NO, YOU DID IT. THAT WASN'T, YOU DIDN'T, YEAH, YOU DID IT. YOU ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY LATER. OKAY. YEAH, HER REQUEST THIS YEAR WAS GOOD. OH, GREAT. YES. I LIKE THAT. IT WAS LAST YEAR. ARE WE, ARE WE DONE WITH DISCUSSION? WE'RE CAUSE THE REST OF US. JUST HOUSEKEEPING. THANK YOU DARLING. SMALL GRANTS MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE 7TH. FIRST DAY OF THE MEETING IS CONCLUDING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.