[Small Grants Program Committee on June 8, 2023]
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THIS IS THE START OF THE SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE MEETING, CITY OF SEDONA, SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THURSDAY, JUNE 8TH.
PRESENT ARE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
STEPHANIE GEK, COMMITTEE CHAIR.
CHRISTINE SWAY, DEAN GAINE, PATTY RESK, ED SOUTHWELL, LIAISON TO THE CITY.
KAREN
TERESA ARTHUR, WHO IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL SPECIALIST FOR THE CITY.
I'LL BE BACK IN, UM, 20 MINUTES.
I HAVE TO KIND OF BUG OUT FOR PROBABLY FIVE OR 10 MINUTES BECAUSE I HAVE TO START THE BIG PARK COUNCIL ZOOM MEETING.
I'M THE ZOOM HOST AND OH GOSH.
THEY'RE, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA GIVE MY REPORT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST CATCHING START IT AND HAND IT OVER.
CAN YOU SIT THE BACK TABLE AND START IT UP? YEAH.
WELL, HERE ARE YOUR SHEETS BACK IN CASE YOU HAVE NOTES ON THEM THAT YOU WANT TO CONSULT.
AND ADD, YOURS WAS ELECTRONIC.
SO TO GET THE, TO GET THOSE NUMBERS IN COLUMN J, YOU ADDED THEM ALL UP AND DIVIDED BY FIVE.
IF WE EXPANDED THIS COLUMN, YOU'D SEE EACH OF OUR SCORES.
SO WHAT I DID WAS ADD THOSE, THOSE UP AND THEN DIVIDE 'EM BY FIVE.
AND WE HAVE A, I THINK WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD GROUP HERE.
IT WAS, UM, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
CHRISTINE AND I WERE ALMOST PARALLEL.
DEAN, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU BALANCE PATTY
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NO, IT'S GOOD.
AND, UM, ED BRINGS A NEW PERSPECTIVE CARD.
I MEAN, YOU'LL SEE BY THE SCORES THAT THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL, AND THEY'RE, AND SEE, THE THING IS THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITHIN EACH, EACH OF US.
SO PATTY'S TOUGHER ON HIM YEAH.
BUT YOU'RE STILL RELATIVELY ALL THE SAME.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU MAY HAVE GIVEN SOMEONE A, A ONE, YEAH.
BUT THE NEXT TIME WHERE YOU GAVE THEM A THREE, HE WOULD'VE GIVEN HIM A FIVE.
SO WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT HE JUST SCORED, UM, DEAN SCORED, UM, UH, MORE FAVORABLY THAN YOU DID, BUT THE, THE FAVORITISMS THROUGHOUT, WHEREAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE CRITICAL SCORING WAS CONSISTENT ALSO.
SO THESE NUMBERS, AND THIS IS WHY, YOU KNOW, MATH IS WONDERFUL, WASN'T IT, CHRISTINE
CAN, COULD YOU SCROLL? WOULD YOU MIND SCROLLING THAT DOWN? YEAH, SURE.
I'M, I'M PUTTING YOUR, OR ACTUALLY, WHAT WE DID, WHAT I THINK WE DID THE LAST TIME WAS, UM, SHRINK IT, LET ME GET MY GLASSES WHERE WE COULD GET IT ON THE SCREEN AND GOT RID OF THAT TOOLBAR ABOUT THE, YOU SAID YOU WERE SOMETHING NEED TO SHUT THIS PUPPY UP.
ASK EVERY QUESTION YOU DID SEE, YEAH.
I JUST NOTICED THAT, UM, LIKE ST.
I HAD WAY UP AT THE TOP, AND NOW IT'S, I GUESS MORE AT THE BOTTOM WHEN I ASKED ABOUTS IN THEIR TRAVEL.
THAT'S WHAT, WELL, SHE RANKED THEM BY THE HIGHER NUMBERS AND THEN GAVE THE ORIGINAL PLACEMENT ON THE COLUMN OF A, RIGHT.
SO I'M TRYING TO GO FROM THE TOP DOWN AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, ON THAT END, SAYING TO WHERE EVERYBODY ENDED UP.
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MM-HMM.I DIDN'T, THAT WAS A VERY, I JUST WAS CURIOUS.
YOU SEE THAT BAR ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE, AS WE PUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE, THESE GUYS WHO PUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE, THIS REMAINING AMOUNT SHRINKS.
AND SO BY THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED THESE TWO, THIS TO BE ZERO.
WE START PLAYING WITH THE NUMBERS AND GO FROM THERE.
UM, BEFORE KAREN COMES IN, THERE ARE, ARE THERE, USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS, ARE THERE ANY ON HERE THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS OR BASICALLY A SLAM DUNK, UM, OR A TOTAL ZERO? SO DO WE, DO WE, DOES ANY, DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A FEELING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE RIGHT NOW? SEARCH AND RESCUE.
UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT, RIGHT? YEAH.
I HAVE THEM AT THE TOP, AND I THINK THEY'RE STILL AT THE TOP.
THEY WERE MY NUMBER THREE, AND I THINK THEY WERE THE GROUPS NUMBER THREE.
AND THEN, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE ARTS ACADEMY OF SEDONA GET ZERO ARTS ACADEMY IS, OKAY.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE PODCAST ONE.
AND DO YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US? IT WAS JUST TWO AMORPHOUS, I MEAN, AND LUCY GOOSEY AND THEIR AUDIENCE WASN'T WELL DEFINED, AND THEIR CONCEPT WAS SUSPECT.
THEY WERE GONNA DO A, A SURVEY FIRST AND THEN MAYBE TARGET THE LAST COUPLE OF PODCASTS TOWARDS THE SURVEY RESPONSES AND CHANGE PEOPLE'S HEALTH HABITS.
I MEAN, IT WAS ALL REALLY FERVENTLY PRESENTED, BUT I, I, I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT THE, THE PLAN WAS, UH, TANGIBLE.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF I DO IT RIGHT NOW, SAYING NOTHING FOR ME.
IT HAD FAVORABLE POINTS, AND I LIKE THE HEALTH ASPECT.
I LOOKED AT THEIR, UM, BEFORE I LOOKED AT THEIR SURVEY QUESTIONS, IT WAS, YOU COULD, I COULD TELL YOU WHAT THE ANSWERS WOULD BE RIGHT NOW FOR THE SURVEY.
CAN I JUST SHOW THAT? IT WAS, IT WASN'T, I CAN'T QUOTE YOU EXAMPLES, BUT THAT THEY WERE VERY, UM, NEBULOUS KIND OF, UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT HOUSING.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS? OR, BUT I, I WISH I COULD REMEMBER SOME OF THEM, BUT THEY WERE, THEY'RE HERE.
ONE OF 'EM, IS IT THIS ONE HERE? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THAT WAS THEIR ORIGINAL SURVEY FROM 2012.
OH, IT WAS THEIR QUESTIONS THAT WERE, THEY HAD ANOTHER HEALTH SURVEY THAT WAS MORE COMPLICATED.
I LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS AND HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, AND, YOU KNOW.
DO YOU EVER HAVE TROUBLE SLEEPING? I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I COULD, I I BETCHA I COULD PREDICT THE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW FROM THE WAY IT WOULD TURN OUT.
SO, UM, DEAN, IF, IF WE DIDN'T, IF WE DIDN'T SAY ZERO, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SUGGESTION TO WHERE THEY COULD STILL GET SOMETHING DONE? WELL, I'M STILL OPEN TO ZERO.
I, I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH 'EM ALL BEFORE SAYING ZERO.
CAN WE SAY ZERO NOW? AND THEN JUST OF COURSE.
AND THEN, THEN WHAT WE CAN DO IS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING ENTIRELY.
SO I, UH, UM, CUZ IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA GIVE ME A NUMBER? NO, NO.
WELL, WOULD BE A GOOD START FOR, FOR THE MOMENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GO FOR? I KIND OF, I THINK THE FOOD BANK, I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT ON THE FOOD BANKS UNTIL WE KNOW, UNTIL WE, UM, I THINK THE WINE FEST, UH, SHOULD BE LOW.
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VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY LOW.WELL, I THINK IT, WELL, IT IS, IT RANK LAST.
I, I, I'D GO WITH A ZERO FOR THAT, FOR EXAMPLE.
I JUST KIND OF THINK IT'S, ITS FUNCTION IS, UH, FEEL, FEEL GOOD IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND MAYBE THERE'S A VALUE TO THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TIGHT MONEY HERE, UM, BUT HOW'S THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE, UH, ART FESTIVAL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THEN? WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE THE CITY OF THE ARTS, THERE'S ART.
UH, SO THEY ARE A SIGNATURE, THEY ARE A SIGNATURE EVENT BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD 14 SUCCESSFUL YEARS.
AND THEY'RE HEADED TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY AGAIN.
AND THERE'S GOT A LOT OF WINERIES.
IT WAS LIKE 30 YEARS THERE FROM SOUTHERN ARIZONA AS WELL, AREN'T THEY? RIGHT? YEAH.
I, AND THEY, THEY GET, THEY GET A GOOD TURNOUT.
IT'S PART, PARTLY THE COMMUNITY BUILDING.
AS I'M IN FAVOR OF THE FACT THAT IT'S AN ALL ADULT EVENT.
I THINK THAT TAKES AWAY, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT IT'S ALCOHOL.
BELIEVE ME, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ALCOHOL.
I MEAN, I'M PROBABLY, WE KNOW THAT THE BIGGEST WINE
BUT 20% OF 10,000 WOULD BE TWO.
NO, I'M, I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT.
BECAUSE THE THING IS THAT ECONOMIC, UM, UH, STIMULATION IS NOT A PRIORITY.
ANY IS NOT A NO IS NOT A CRITERIUM ANY LONGER.
AND THAT REALLY IS A BIG PART OF THIS.
I MEAN, BESIDES THE FEEL GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S THE ECONOMICS OF ENCOURAGING THE WINE INDUSTRY.
I THOUGHT IT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT SEEMED TO ME TO BE EXPENSIVE TO GO THERE.
I I, I JUST WASN'T A BIG FAN OF, IT'S THE TENT.
I MEAN, KAREN IS INDISPOSED AT THE MOMENT.
WHAT, WHAT? JUST WHENEVER SHE'S, WHENEVER SHE'S THERE.
WE'RE JUST HOLDING ON ALL FOOD BANK TALK RIGHT NOW.
UM, WELL THERE'S, WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOMETHING.
BUT IS THE OTHER OPTION IS YOU, WE RANK THEM FOR A REASON.
SHOULD THE ONES AT THE VERY BOTTOM EVEN BE CONSIDERED IF THEY WERE RANKED TO BE AT THE BOTTOM, AT THE BOTTOM AT THE END.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE HAVE TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOMETHING BECAUSE, BUT THOSE RANKED AT THE TOP I THINK SHOULD GET MORE.
WELL, AND I THINK THEY WILL GET MORE.
I SEE 10,000 AT THE TOP, AND WE'RE TALKING TOO AT THE BOTTOM.
NOW I'D LIKE TO, I'M JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THE GROUP FEELS ABOUT 1501 AND HOW THEY ENDED UP AT THE BOTTOM IS WHAT WERE THE REASONS THAT 1501 ENDED UP THE PURPOSE WAS GOOD.
WAS IT THE IMPACT? AND WHAT WAS THE I RANKED IT PRETTY HIGH.
I RANKED THEM HIGHER THAN THAT NUMBER, BUT, WELL, LET'S EXPAND IT.
WELL, UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, IF THE CHIEF LIKES IT AND WRITES A LETTER, WHY CAN'T HE SPEND LESS THAN ONE 10TH OF 1% TO FUND THEM? I DON'T, I DON'T GET IT.
I MEAN, HE'S GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT AND HE'S ASKING FOR 10% OF OUR BUDGET.
I MEAN, FOR ME, 10% OF OUR BUDGET AT LESS THAN ONE 10TH OF 1% OF HIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SUGGEST THAT 20,000 FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THAT, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE WOULD BE OF USE.
SO FOR ME, IT WAS AGREED, THE COMMUNITY IMPACT.
CAUSE IT'S JUST THE FIREFIGHTERS, THEY GOT LO LOW SCORE THERE AND THEN THEIR FINANCIAL STRENGTH IS LOW.
CAUSE THEY'RE JUST GETTING GOING.
AND, AND THAT, THAT GAVE 'EM QUITE A HIT AND THE WAY I SCORE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I RANKED THEM.
WELL, IN THOSE SEEM TO ORGANIZATION ADMINISTRATION CAPACITY, I RANKED THEM REALLY WELL.
I RANKED THEM REALLY LOW IN METRICS JUST BECAUSE OF, UM RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHY IF YOU, WHOEVER WANTS, YOU WANT.
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THAT'S WHAT DROVE THEM DOWN.NOW IS THAT, UM, WHY IS THIS? IT'S FINE.
OH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT I THINK, DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT WHY THEY COULDN'T GET A CHUNK OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET AND HAD TO DO WITH THE HEALTH, THE PRIVACY OF THE HEALTH? WELL, PARTIALLY, BUT ALSO THE ATTITUDE.
BUT THAT WAS LIKE, WELL, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BUT STILL YESTERDAY, PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, THE REASON THEY, THEY WON'T, WE'D HAVE THAT SEPARATION.
WELL, SOMEONE SAID THAT, I JUST DON'T THINK THEY, IF IT WAS FIRE DEPARTMENT MENTION, THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO DO A, UM, LIKE AN ONLINE PROGRAM.
IT'S POSSIBLE ONCE WE DO FUND OH, OH, THAT THE IN PERSON, OKAY.
LIKELY EVER FUND IT, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, I'VE DONE YOGA FOR YEARS.
I DIDN'T DO IT UNTIL I MOVED HERE.
HARD TO BE SOMEPLACE ON A TUESDAY MORNING EVERY WEEK.
BUT ANYWAY, SO, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE WE LIKE, THEY SHOULD GET FUNDED, BUT RANKING WISE, THEY'RE HERE AT THE BOTTOM.
THEY CUT OTHER, BUT IT'S SCALABLE PROGRAM TOO.
WE ALL AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S SAID, IT'S LIKE THE WINE FEST.
I DO NOT FEEL THAT WINE FEST SHOULD BE AT ZERO.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A LOGICAL REASON TO, A LOGICAL NUMBER TO ATTACH TO THEM IN THE NOTES TO THE CITY.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD FUND THIS? OR IS THAT APPROPRIATE OR MATCH OR DO SOMETHING A LOT? YES.
YOU KNOW, OR DO SOME KIND OF A MATCH.
I MEAN, IF IT WERE A TRUE MATCH AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 20,000, THEN WE HAVE TO MATCH AT 10.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S OUR LOGIC, WE CAN PUT 10 DOWN.
AND THEN AS WE START TRIMMING, YOU KNOW HOW WE DID LAST YEAR? WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS WE, UM, DIDN'T HAVE, EVERYBODY WROTE REALLY GOOD RECOMME REALLY GOOD REQUESTS.
AND WHEN WE GAVE EVERYBODY WHAT WE THOUGHT WE'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM, IT WAS OVER WHAT WE HAD.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK AND WE TRIMMED THE SAME AMOUNT SURE.
YOU KNOW, JUST IN ORDER TO MEET THE 200,000.
UH, BUT STILL GAVE THEM ENOUGH MONEY TO DO WHAT THEY WANTED.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP IS YOU HAVE A BETTER, WE'RE MUCH, IT'S MUCH EASIER.
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET THE MONEY IF YOU HAVE A SCALABLE PROGRAM.
BECAUSE IF YOU BRING IN SOMETHING, UM, THAT IS EXPENSIVE AND IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING GAME, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT VERY WELL GET NOTHING BECAUSE WE CAN'T CUT EVERYBODY OUT FOR YOUR ONE REQUEST.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD OF THE, THE CROWD.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO ON THE, UM, IF WE, IF WE, IF WE GO FOR A MATCH THIS FIRST YEAR, THEN SEE IF THE, THE, THEY COULD, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM.
WE FEEL THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO STEP TO THE PLATE AND AT LEAST MATCH WHAT THE CITY DOES THIS YEAR.
AND WITH THE POTENTIAL OF TAKING THE PROGRAM OVERALL TOGETHER, COULD WE, WOULD IT BE MORE PRUDENT TO START A 5,000? WHY? WELL, IF THEY DO COME WITH, COME BACK WITH FIVE ON THEIR END MM-HMM.
WELL, LET'S START WITH 10 AND THEN WE CAN CUT DOWN.
YOU KNOW, CAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR A STRAIGHT MATCH, I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL, BECAUSE SHE SAID TO PUT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM ON, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
FIVE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.
BECAUSE THE FIVE, IF WE GO WITH FIVE, UM, THAT'S, OH, OKAY.
I HAVE THE LOGIC FIVE, BECAUSE I'M BETTER WITH FIVE TOO.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE IT'S GONNA END UP TO START.
UM, BECAUSE THE LOGIC HERE, THE, IF THE, IF THE FULL-BLOWN PROGRAM IS 20 GRAND, WE GO FOR A MATCH AT 10, FIRE DEPARTMENT 10, THEN IT'S A NEW PROGRAM.
AND IF THEY AS AN ORGANIZATION MATCH, THEN IT'S FIVE, FIVE FOR THE CITY, FIVE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIVE FROM THEM.
AND THEY'RE STILL SHORT FIVE MM-HMM.
SO, BUT THEY'VE GOT OTHER SOURCES THAT THEY
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YEAH.SHE SAID THEY HAVE OTHER SOURCES.
NOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THOUGH, THE PUBLIC, THIS IS FOR NEXT YEAR.
CAN THEY STILL GET IT IN THEIR BUDGET IF WE RECOMMEND IT NOW? OR IT'S SUCH A SMALL NUMBER.
YOU KNOW HOW UNLESS THEY HAVE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, THEIR HANDS ARE PROBABLY TIED.
I MEAN, I'M SERIOUS, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S LIKE WE WERE ALL IN THAT POSITION.
YOU MOVE MONEY AROUND IF YOU NEED TO.
BUT I, I REALLY LIKE THE MATCH IDEA.
UM, SHOULD WE FLOAT IT PAST THE CHIEF, THE FIRE CHIEF? I, THERE'S A, THIS PROGRAM IS A CATALYST FOR CHANGE MM-HMM.
AND IF WE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF IT IS THAT IT MAY, IF THE CITY SEEDS THE MONEY, IT MAY INCENT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT FIREMEN, SUICIDES AND DIFFERENT THINGS MM-HMM.
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN IENT THEM TO CHANGE AND REALLY BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT IT.
WE OFFER SOME MONEY TO SHOW THAT THE CITY RECOGNIZES IT, BUT WE DON'T MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO NOT ENGAGE WITH THE DISCUSSION.
AND MAYBE THAT'S, SO WE ARE, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT'S BROKEN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND, AND SO WE CAN GIVE FUNDS THAT START THE DISCUSSION NOT SO MUCH THAT THEY CAN BYPASS THE DISCUSSION AND THEY DON'T FEEL RESPONSIBLE, BUT ENOUGH TO SAY THIS IS RECOGNIZED AS AS VALID.
I'M, I'M GOOD WITH FIVE OR 10.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S, UM, WOULD YOU SHRINK THAT AGAIN A LITTLE BIT? WE'LL MAKE IT SMALLER.
AND YOU CAN'T REALLY MAKE IT CONDITIONAL, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T SAY IT'LL BE FIVE IF THEY ARE ABLE TO COME UP WITH FIVE.
WE, AND THEY CAN USE THE FIVE THEY, THEY SAID THEY CAN DO.
WELL, AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND GIVE THEM SURE.
UM, A DIFFERENT PSYCHIATRIST WITH A TIE WAS PRETTY COOL.
WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED? WE LOST SOMETHING.
YEAH, WE'RE ON THE BIKING CLIFF.
SO WE LOST OUR, WE LOST OUR RECOMMENDATIONS SOMEHOW.
IT'S JUST NOT, UM, OH YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH FURTHER IS I CAN SAVE THIS TO MY MACHINE.
IF I PUT IT ON THE SHARED DRIVE, IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY SAVE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT AUTOSAVING, CUZ I JUST OPENED IT FROM STEPHANIE'S EMAIL.
I'M SO GLAD THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THIS STUFF.
WHERE'S YOUR DELETE? HERE? UP IN THE CORNER? YEAH.
I'M GLAD I DIDN'T WANT TO DELETE THAT DOWN.
NO, HE DIDN'T ENTER BEFORE YOU JUST SO IT, IT GOES TO THE CORRECT SPACE.
THERE'S SOME CRAZY LOGIC IN THESE SPREADSHEETS.
I STARTED POPS OUT OF THE BOX.
THEY'RE LIKE, I STARTED WITH VISCAL.
BUT THAT WAS BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES.
THERE WAS ONE EARLIER THAN THAT.
NO, IF THEY VIS VISC WAS THE FIRST.
I'VE GOT THE GREEN THING HERE.
SO WHY IS IT ENTERING THERE? WHY IS WANTS THE PUT DATA IN THE MOUNTAIN BIKING? COME
RETURN'S ENTER AND THEN YEAH, IT'LL GO THERE.
BUT THAT'S, NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD WORK ANYWAY.
UM, DID WE JUST TO THE WINE FEST.
WE'RE HOLD, THAT'S JUST A PLACE.
SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY RANK AND IT'S
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SORT OF LIKE, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE MONEY WISE.I'M GONNA PUT TWO IN THERE FOR THEM.
UM, HOW DID HOPE HOUSE END UP WAY DOWN HERE? OH, WONDER.
WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT FROM ONE THING.
I MEAN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE TRANSITIONED THREE FAMILIES, WHICH IS GREAT SO FAR.
BUT THEY CAN ONLY TRANSITION THREE OR FOUR A YEAR AT THE MOMENT.
UNLESS THEY GET ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE.
AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR VERY MUCH THOUGH.
AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD THING.
I THINK I GIVE THEM, THAT'S A NUMBER, HOPE HOUSE 27.
I LIKE THAT I RANKED 'EM PRETTY LOW.
MY GUT TELLS ME, LET'S START WITH THAT MM-HMM.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAD 32 70, SO THEY MUST KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
I THINK THEY, BUT LET ME, LET ME JUST HAVE A LIST OF EQUIPMENT ON THERE.
I'M GONNA LOOK FOR A LIST OF EQUIPMENT ON THEIR REQUEST.
THEY'LL BE HANDING IT OVER TO YOU NOW.
LET ME SEE IF THEY HAVE A LIST OF EQUIPMENT HERE.
THEY, THEY'VE TANKED ON MY IMPACT.
BUT YOU KNOW, I, I'M SURPRISED AT THE, THE PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE.
THE, YOU KNOW, UM, RUMOR HAD IT THAT THE FIRST TWO FAMILIES THEY HAD WERE BOMBED OUT.
I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS, HIS INCLUDING ONE FAMILY WHO TOOK THINGS FROM THE HOUSE WHEN THEY LEFT.
AND, UH, AND THEN THEY DECIDED TO HAVE A LIVE-IN MANAGER THAT LIVE-IN MANAGERS.
UM, ROLLED OVER A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY THE ONE THEY'VE GOT NOW WILL STICK AROUND.
BUT, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LEARNING AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THEY TRANSITION THROUGH THINGS.
WHERE IS IT? DO YOU RECALL? I LOOK IT UP.
UM, IT'S, IT'S BEHIND, UM, IT'S BEHIND BASHES INDIAN RESTAURANT.
THERE'S, UM, UM, NEXT DOOR TO BASHES.
THERE'S A, A LITTLE ROAD THAT GOES UP BY THE INDIAN RESTAURANT AND OKAY.
AND THERE'S SOME SKETCHY PLACES UP THERE.
I LOOKED THAT UP TOO, WHERE IT WAS, I WAS CURIOUS WHERE IT WAS.
IT IS A GREAT SPOT BECAUSE WHOEVER IS THERE COULD WALK TO SERVICES ALL OVER.
HAVING TO DRIVE FROM SOME REMOTE AREA.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD LOCATION.
BUT I MEAN, THREE FAMILIES TO ME, THAT IS A LOT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A VERY, WHY DON'T WE PUT DOWN HALF STEPHANIE? YEAH, I'M GETTING THERE.
I JUST, WHY CAN'T I FIND FRICKING HOPE HOUSE HERE? SO I'VE GOT MY SPREADSHEET DOES PERCENTAGES, SO IF I JUST POP IN, 50% DID YOU $1,635.
SEE IF THEY GOT, LET ME JUST SEE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
LET ME SEE WHAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR PROGRAM COSTS.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT'S THAT GENTLEMAN YESTERDAY.
ED WAS HIS NAME, WASN'T IT? WHO WAS TALKING GOT WATER.
HOW HE ALWAYS HAD A SMILE ON HIS FACE.
I JUST THOUGHT HE LOOKED LIKE SUCH A LIKABLE YEAH, WONDERFUL PERSON.
IT WAS, IT WAS HIS VISION ACTUALLY.
WELL, I THINK THEY WORKED HARD FOR US.
THEY, UM, THEY JUST HAVE EQUIPMENT HERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFICATION IN THEIR REQUEST FOR WHAT EXACTLY THAT EQUIPMENT IS.
I REMEMBER THEM SAYING SWINGS.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? IT'S THE, IT'S INSULATE IT'S INSTALLATION TOO, IN FACT.
NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT THAT STUFF IN, IN, UNLESS YOU PUT DOWN A, A SPECIAL SURFACE STUFF AND THERE WAS A SHADE COVER.
OH, THAT'S, THOSE ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE.
I THINK, UM, UH, BACK UP FOR NOW.
NO, I, LET'S PUT IN 1500 AND SEE.
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IS HALF ONE.CAN I MAKE IT 1700? JUST SO WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH CHANGE?
HI KAREN, HOW ARE YOU? HEY, THANKS FOR JOINING.
YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, THE MISSION AS FAR AS WHAT WE NEED, WHAT OUR CONSIDERATIONS ARE.
AND UM, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
ALTHOUGH, ONE THING I WILL PASS ALONG, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS, UH, CURRENTLY I JUST, I BROUGHT IT UP THIS MORNING IS THAT IN OUR INTERVIEWS YESTERDAY, WE REALIZED THERE ARE A LOT MORE FOOD SOURCES HERE IN SEDONA THAN WE, THAN MEET THE EYE, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ABOUT THE FOOD BANK, WE KNOW ABOUT MANZANITA.
UM, THERE'S MEALS ON WHEELS, UH, FOR THAT.
AND THEN WE ALSO REALIZE FROM INTERVIEWS THAT THE HOMELESS ALLIANCE DOES FOOD MEAN, KNOW ST.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INFLUENCES WHAT YOU'RE GONNA TELL US, BUT FIRE AWAY.
UM, SO I GUESS MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ARE IF WE DO HAVE THAT MANY SOURCES THAT ARE SEDONA SOURCES THAT ARE SERVING A PREPONDERANCE OF SEDONA RESIDENTS, TO ME THAT'S FAR MORE COMPELLING THAN A VERDE VALLEY ORGANIZATION THAT HAS EVEN REPORTED THAT THEY'RE ONLY SERVING, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OF THEIR TOTAL POPULATION OF PEOPLE THEY PROVIDE FOR OUR SEDONA RESIDENTS.
SO I'M CERTAINLY NOT SAYING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, CUZ ULTIMATELY, IF THIS COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION AND IF YOU FELT LIKE THEY WERE DESERVING OF SOMETHING, I DON'T THINK THE $15,000 REQUEST IS REALLY COMMENSURATE WITH THE LEVEL OF SEDONA RESIDENTS SERVED, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A FINITE POT OF MONEY.
THE OTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME JUST A LITTLE BIT IS PRECEDENT SETTING.
THERE ARE SO MANY NONPROFITS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REGION THAT DO GOOD WORK AND PROVIDE SERVICE.
AND THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT MIGHT HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL PORTION OF THOSE THEY SERVE SERVING SEDONA.
I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY MEANS THAT WE SHOULD FEEL COMPELLED TO SERVE EVERYONE BECAUSE IT IS ONLY, EXCUSE ME, $200,000.
AND THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF VERY DESERVING NONPROFITS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE I SAID, THAT ARE SERVING A, A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO GET AS MUCH BANG FOR THE BUCK AND STRETCH THAT $200,000 AS FAR AS WE CAN TO SERVE AS MANY SEDONA RESIDENTS AS WE CAN.
SO, UM, I GUESS THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS.
THE, UM, ESTIMATED NUMBER OF UNDUPLICATED CITY OF SEDONA RESIDENTS SERVED BY, BY THE MISSION IS 114.
AND I KNOW THAT NUMBER IS SPOT IT'S MISSION.
ARE WE TALKING MANZANITA OR MISSION? MISSION? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MISSION.
OH, OLD TOWN MISSION SERVES ONE 14 MM-HMM.
AND THEN MANZANITA 1200 OR SO IS IT HERE IN SEDONA? MM-HMM.
AND THE THING NOW THAT MANZANITA IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE, I THINK ONE OF THE CON ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS FOR THE MISSION WAS THAT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE OPEN 1,321.
THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE NUM, CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS SERVED.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MEAN IF, IF YOU'RE COMPELLED BY THEIR, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICES THEY DO PROVIDE AND THE JUSTIFICATION AND YOU'RE MEETING WITH THEM, THAT IF THEY'RE SERVING 114 SEDONA RESIDENTS, EVEN IF THAT'S, DO THEY DO LIKE A ONCE A WEEK THING OR, OR CAN YOU GO ANYTIME AND YOU CAN GO ANY ANYTIME AND PICK UP A BOX, BUT THEIR, THEIR HOURS ARE ONLY UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT GAP THEY FILL MM-HMM.
UH, AND IT'S NOT A TIME GAP BECAUSE, AND MANZANIA IS FILLING THE TIME GAP BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE DOING HOME DELIVERIES AND THE REASON THEY'RE DOING HOME DELIVERIES IS BECAUSE THE FOOD BANK, THE OTHER FOOD SOURCES IN SEDONA ARE NOT OPEN.
YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS HOURS, YOU KNOW, AND THE PEOPLE WORK.
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NEED THAT.SO IF THEY'RE NOT PLUGGING THE TIME GAP, THE ONLY GAP THEY SEEM TO BE FILLING THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY FILLING IS THAT THE FOOD, THEY HAVE FOOD ITEMS THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE THROUGH ANY OTHER SOURCE, UH, LIKE GLUTEN FREE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T THINK THAT, I MEAN, GLUTEN-FREE IS NICE, BUT IT'S NOT ESSENTIAL IF YOU'RE HUNGRY, YOU KNOW? YEAH, YEAH.
AND MANZANITA MAY VERY WELL, UH, CUZ THEY, MANZANITA PROVIDES, UM, CONSISTENTLY HEALTHY MM-HMM.
I MEAN, THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DO THAT.
AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD PROVIDE GLUTEN FREE IF, IF THAT WAS A TRUE NEED.
AND THERE'S FOOD OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, AND SO MM-HMM.
THAT MISSION, THAT WOULD'VE ACTUALLY BEEN AN EXTREMELY COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR THEM TO INCLUDE MM-HMM.
IS THEY JUST SAID THE, THE CLIENTS THAT COME DOWN, THEY COME DOWN FOR SHOWERS AND WHATNOT AND THEN THEY PICK UP THEIR FOOD AT THE SAME TIME.
IS THE 114 THAT'S UNDUPLICATED.
SO, SO, AND THAT'S ONLY TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TOTAL THAT THEY SERVE.
OH, NO, THEY, IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT THE, THE, THE QUANTITY, THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE THAT THEY DEAL WITH, THE, NOT ONLY CUZ I QUIZZED THEM ON THIS, I CALLED THEM AND QUIZZED THEM.
CAUSE I SAID, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS 114? AND THIS IS WHERE I FOUND OUT ABOUT THESE, THESE, UH, NON-FOR-PROFIT APPS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW, UH, FOR TRACKING THESE, UH, SERVICES.
UH, AND, AND THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THESE STATISTICS TO, UM MM-HMM.
UH, BECAUSE, UM, SO THEY, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NUMBER ONE, THAT THEY'RE UNDUPLICATED.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WHEN YOU TOWED UP THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IT COSTS THEM TO SERVE PER PERSON, THEIR REQUEST IS ONLY HALF OF WHAT IT COSTS THEM TO SERVE THOSE PEOPLE FOOD.
AND WHEN IT'S FEDERALLY FUNDED, I THINK, DIDN'T WE HEAR THAT THEY ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO, WHERE THAT PERSON'S FROM, HOW WE CAN CONTACT THEM.
BECAUSE IF IT'S A FEDERAL, IF IT'S FEDERAL, THEY HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO GET REACH THOSE PEOPLE.
IF THERE'S A RECALL IN WHAT'S PROVIDED ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT EITHER.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ALL JUST, THEY'RE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT THAT WOULD BE SET.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, WELL, WE DO HAVE OTHERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE FIVE, BUT THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT IN HIS DUPLICATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE MISSION PROVIDES.
SO I I COULD PROBABLY GET, YOU KNOW, BEHIND CONTRIBUTING SOMETHING GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING, THEY DID ENOUGH FOR THIS.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IF THEY WOULD'VE PUT THAT IN THEIR PROPOSAL.
UM, BUT I THINK IF THAT DID COME OUT IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND THIS GROUP DECIDES YOU WANT TO, YOU DO WANNA FUND SOMETHING MAY NOT BE THE WHOLE 15,000, BUT IF, IF YOU FELT LIKE IT'S, IT'S A WORTHY APPLICATION AND THEY ARE SERVING SEDONA RESIDENTS, THEN CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE PART OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT TOGETHER THE YEAH.
THE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY YOU MADE THAT DECISION.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD, UM, FLOW DOWN, RESONATE WITH PEOPLE.
NO, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE WERE AND WE JUST WANTED YOUR FEELING ON IT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT, WELL, SINCE YOU'RE HERE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, WHAT IF WE DIDN'T GET IT THIS TIME, BUT IT COULD COME UP NEXT YEAR.
WHAT IF ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THEY'RE COUNTING ACTUALLY ARE RESIDENTS OF ANOTHER CITY THAT JUST WORK HERE? WELL, AND, AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D WANNA CLARIFY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF THEY ARE TRACKING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE NO, THEY SAID THERE WERE 22 OF THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED IN SEDONA AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE 114.
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THEY, SO THE MAJORITY THEN WERE SEDONA A RESIDENCE.BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST, I'M SAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE.
IT'S GONNA GET OUT THAT WE'RE COUNTING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ASKING.
AND I DO THINK THAT THAT MATTERS.
NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD NEVER BE AN INTEREST IN HELPING FOLKS WHO WORK HERE, BUT I DO THINK THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN TARGETED TO SERVING RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND MM-HMM.
AND NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY WORK, BECAUSE VICE VERSA.
YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS WHO COMMUTE OUT TO WORK AND I, I JUST, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN COUNT BOTH MM-HMM.
AND I, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT AFTER ALL OF THIS, I THINK THE CLARITY IS BECAUSE, AND BECAUSE OF MANZANITA BEING ABLE TO DELIVER FOOD OUTSIDE BUSINESS HOURS MM-HMM.
THEY DID APPLY FOR FOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR FOOD SUPPORT AND THAT FOOD, THE ONE GAP THEY FILL, WHICH MIGHT, WHICH ISN'T EVEN TIME.
SO, SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OLD TOWN OR I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MISSION.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I PERSONALLY, I'M TENDING NOW I WAS ON TOTALLY ON THE FENCE, BUT PERSONALLY I'M TENDING NOW THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD FUND THEM PERSONALLY NOW BECAUSE I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR FOOD, THERE'S PLENTY OF FOOD AVAILABLE HERE.
UM, THEY DON'T PLUG THE TIME SOURCE.
I RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S A CONVENIENCE FOR THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DOWN THERE GETTING THEIR HAIRCUTS AND THEIR SHOWERS AND THINGS TO PICK UP THEIR FOOD AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THE NEED DROPS DOWN TOTALLY TO NOTHING.
WELL, AND IF YOU WAIT THAT, I MEAN THESE, THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS NOT A SINGLE DECIDING FACTOR.
IT'S IF YOU WAIT THAT WITH THE PRECEDENT SETTING AND MM-HMM.
IT'S 91 SEDONA RESIDENCE AND 22 COMMUTERS.
THAT'S HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.
AND THOSE 91 RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO GET THEIR FOOD DOWN THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THE RESOURCES UP HERE ARE MM-HMM.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR THEM TO GET THEIR FOOD DOWN THERE.
SO THEY'RE DOING OTHER THINGS DOWN THERE.
SO, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE COMMUNITY CENTER DOES IS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS, THE COMMUNITY CENTER PREPARES A COUPLE OF TAKEOUT MEALS FOR THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE FOR THE WEEKEND.
SO THEY DON'T COMPLETELY CUT OFF SERVICES.
THEY DO MEALS ON WHEELS, DELIVERIES, HOT MEALS, UM, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
AND THEN THEY PREPARE SOMETHING FOR SUNDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
SO IT'S NOT EVERYTHING PEOPLE NEED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO FILLING THAT, THAT WEEKEND GAP WHEN THEIR HOURS ARE CLOSED.
WITH THEIR DELIVERY SERVICE DELIVERS OUTSIDE OF REGULAR HOURS AND DAYS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY ENSURE AND THEIR SNACKS HAVE AREN'T GOING TO GO HUNGRY.
SO I THINK THE NEEDS ARE BEING MET ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE FOR FOOD WITHOUT HAVING TO TRAVEL.
ALL OF YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'RE INVESTING IN THIS CAUSE IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED.
NO, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD AND SEE YA.
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS THEY'VE BEEN GETTING BY OH YEAH.
WITHOUT MONEY FROM SADONA, THEY TO TYPE OH THAT PLACE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU CLICK I CAN SEE THEM.
THEY'RE LIKE, WHY NOT TRY? NO, I'M LOOKING FOR THE MISSION AS WELL.
I'M LOOKING, I THINK THEY'RE UP HIGHER.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR OH, HERE IT IS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S OPINION.
SEE NOW I'M DROPPING YOU CRAZY.
I'M GLAD TO JUST FYI, IT'S PAINFUL TO WATCH
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I KNOW.WE DID SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 50 YEARS.
WE CAN EASILY MEET THE, THAT'S LIMIT.
NOW I'M GONNA DIRECT DROP IS ZERO.
CAN YOU CHANGE THIS, UM, UH, TO A ZERO INSTEAD OF A SLASH.
LET ME BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, LETS SAVE THIS.
ACTUALLY IT'S HARD TO DO TO MY YEAH.
YOUR PREFERENCE EXPERT OF PREFERENCES.
WELL IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, THAT'S NO BIG DEAL.
I'M GET SOME, BUT I JUST, WE'RE PUTTING THIS WORK IN AND WE'RE GETTING TO A CERTAIN POINT NOW THAT I DON'T WANNA, I'LL LEFT IT BACK THERE.
SO STEPHANIE NOW THANKS STEVE.
WE CAN EASILY HIT THE $200,000 BUDGET AND NEVER GIVE ANYBODY A LESS THAN 40% ASKING.
OKAY, WELL LET'S TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME.
BUT, BUT NOW I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT SOMEPLACE TO BE AT NINE FIVE.
NO, IT'S JUST WE CAN GIVE THEM SIGNIFICANT HELP NOW.
NOT JUST A TOKEN NOW THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE HAD TO ELIMINATE TWO.
SO I KNOW, UM, SEARCH AND RESCUE, I READ THEM AS SAYING THEY WERE NOT SCALABLE AND WE GAVE THEM A HUNDRED PERCENT.
BUT I HAD ALSO READ THAT THE ARTS FESTIVAL, SHE APPLIED, SHE WAS NOT SCALABLE.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING HER $10,000 CONSISTENTLY FOR THE LAST, UM, SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS LONG BEFORE YOU GUYS CAME ON BOARD, UM, SHE PROVED TO THE GROUP AND TO ME IN PARTICULAR, CAUSE I WAS THE ONE THAT HAD TO LEARN THE LESSON THE HARD WAY, UH, IS THAT SHE, THAT 10,000, SHE HAS MINUTELY GOT THAT FESTIVAL DOWN TO A SCIENCE AND IT COSTS HER X AND SHE'S JUST GETTING BACK ON HER FEET AND THAT $10,000 IS PART OF THAT X.
SO, UM, I THINK SHE, THAT'S NOTHING'S VERY, I THINK SHE NEEDS THAT'S YEAH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE VISUAL ARTS COALITION.
THEIRS, THEIR DATA IS SO TIGHT, UM, AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IT.
THEY ARE TRIMMED DOWN TO A SCIENCE.
I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO GET THE VISUAL.
THE ONLY TIME THAT WE CUT THE VISUAL HAVE TRADITIONALLY CUT THE VISUAL ARTS COALITION.
IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE NEEDED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MI A MINIMUM MM-HMM.
SO MY, MY VOTE WOULD BE TO, UM, IF YOU GUYS AGREE, IS TO THROW, AT LEAST TO START HERE, THROW THE 10,000 INTO THE SEDONA ARTS FESTIVAL AND, UM, FULLY FUND THE VISUAL ARTS COALITION AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
WHERE'D SHE GO? I AGREE WITH THAT.
I HAD HER ACTUALLY UP HIGHER, BUT SHE'S STILL HIGH.
SHE'S NUMBER SIX AS FAR AS THE GROUP GOES.
SO I'M FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT MM-HMM.
I KNOW, I AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YOU I HAD THEM VERY HIGH ALSO.
SO, AND THE GROUP HAS 'EM RIGHT THERE WITH THE ARTS FESTIVAL.
SO IT WAS VISUAL ARTS AND ARTS FESTIVAL.
WILL YOU CALL IT? JUST GET PAM OVER HERE.
I KNOW SHE'S HERE CUZ SHE WAS WALKING AROUND WITH ARROW.
SO THE GROUP'S NUMBER ONE IS MANZANITA OUTREACH, BUT THAT'S A HUGE BILL.
YOU KNOW, I WISH WE'D ASK HOW MUCH OF THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS FOR FARMERS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THIS NEW PROGRAM FOR HARVESTING LOCAL PRODUCE VERSUS PROVIDING FOOD IN THE NORMAL WAY.
WELL IT'S COLIN, YOU YOU WANNA CUT WITH COLIN? SURE.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO MEAN WE HAVE A QUESTION AT THIS STAGE.
LET ME, LET ME JUST TRY TO GET STRAIGHT IN MY OWN MIND.
WHAT WE'RE, WHAT HE'S ASKING US TO DO IS TO FUND A NEW PROGRAM, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, BACKSTOP, HIS REGULAR PROGRAMS. I, LET'S SEE WHAT HIS PROGRAM, LET'S, HERE'S ANITA RIGHT HERE.
SO LET'S SEE WHAT HIS, WHAT HE'S GOT FOR HIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM COST.
AND IT MAY BE THAT WE'RE NOT FUNDING
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THAT PROGRAM.THAT MAY JUST BE A SOURCE HE BUYS FROM.
YEAH, LET'S JUST SEE WHAT'S DONE.
IT MAY BE, LET'S JUST SEE WHAT HE IS GOT IN HIS PROGRAM THING AND IF IT'S UNCLEAR, WE'LL CALL IT.
I DO HAVE MY CELL PHONE HERE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE IT'S RINGING.
IT KEEPS, HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S RINGING? BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST COMING UP ON WALL.
ARE YOU TRYING TO GO THROUGH MY STAIR? EVERYTHING ELSE? I'M NOT SURE.
IT SAYS THE BETTER NUTRITION FOR ALL WILL PROVIDE LOCALLY FARMED PRODUCE AND PROTEINS ALONG THE CULINARY EDUCATION TO LOCAL DONOR RESIDENTS WITH AN EMPHASIS ON FILLING GAPS IN THE EXISTING FOOD ASSISTANCE SERVICES WITH THE AIM OF INCREASING SEDONAS NUTRITION AND HEALTH.
AND WE WILL ALSO INCREASE THE NUTRITIONAL VALUE OF THE SNACK BOXES.
SO IT'S A NEW PROGRAM AND IMPROVING AN OLD PROGRAM.
OKAY, WELL LET'S, LET'S, LET'S HANG, HANG ON A SEC.
5 75 SUPPLIES 31 MARKETING SIX 80, PRINTING AND COPYING TWO 13 ADMINISTRATION FACILITY.
SO A PER CAPITA COST OF OVERHEAD.
UH, AND AT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM'S GONNA BE 59,000 AND HE'S ASKING BASICALLY 30% FROM US.
OKAY, SO LET'S JUST GAMEPLAY THIS FOR MINUTE, LET'S SAY YES, IT'S GONNA BE AN EXTRA $8,000 TO GET ALL THIS NEW FRESH PRODUCE IN THE SYSTEM OR, OKAY.
SO LET'S SAY THAT'S HIS ANSWER.
DOES THAT MATTER TO US? I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA CHANGE OUR, OUR LINE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BASED ON THAT $8,000 FIGURE? IF NOT, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CALL IT, BUT IT'S OKAY.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SURE POINT DOCUMENT.
I MEAN, WE RANKED HIM AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU GET ALL OF THE METRIC POINTS MEASURING WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, WE SHOULD GET FUNDED.
NO, I'M, WE COULD WE'LL BE FUNDED AND THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE'RE OUTTA MONEY.
CAN WE SHRINK THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UM, LET'S SEE WHAT'S LEFT.
UM, LET, I THINK WE SHOULD THROW 81 75 IN THERE JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT.
OKAY, YOU'RE AT THE FOOD BANK? YEAH.
WHICH FOR THEIR NUMBER DOWN THE LIST.
ANGLO, YOU WANT GIVE THEM 15, ZERO.
WE END UP, I DON'T THINK WE GAVE HIM ANYTHING AT ALL BECAUSE HE JUST, I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO, WE COULDN'T JUST SEE WHERE WE ENDED UP CLASSROOMS, BUT THEY DIDN'T CHECK WITH ANYBODY TO SEE THAT WAS OKAY.
I WAS LIKE, YEAH, THEY'VE COME A LONG WAY.
SO WE'VE GIVEN THE TOP 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 PEOPLE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT NOW.
WHERE ARE WE? LET'S, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THERE? UM, COULDN'T WE START SCALING HERE, DON, AT LET'S SCALE THIS.
OH, I CAN'T, BUT I, I MEAN THIS ONE 14 MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START SCALING DOWN ON.
HOW, HOW CAN WE, ARE WE JUSTIFY FOR, FOR THE HECK OF IT AT THE MOMENT? 2014.
WELL THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, IT'S NOT LIKE WELL YEAH, AND NO, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT DOWN TO 14 AND THAT'S FINE.
14, WELL THROW 14 IN THERE AND SEE WHERE WE END UP.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA END UP PRETTY SHORT, BUT
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YEAH.LET ME, WE ENDED UP IN THE WRONG.
KEEPS IT ON A OH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT KEEPS IT ON A BEAUTIFUL, OH MAN, KIDS.
IF THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE THE BUSINESSES TO SWITCH OVER MM-HMM.
WELL IT'S IN SOME NUMBER OF YEARS, FIVE YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND SHE SAID THAT NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO THEM FOR HELP IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT WITH THAT NOW BECOMING A LAW, HOW, YOU KNOW, I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF SHE WAS HELPING BUSINESSES THAT NEEDED HELP TO MEET THE NEW ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
I THINK SHE SAID THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD THREE SIGNIFICANT WINS AND THEN THEY'VE GOT THREE IN THE WINGS.
BUT DON'T, THAT'S NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE THREE IN THE WINGS NEEDED HELP OR WERE JUST LIKE, OKAY, WE CAN DO THIS AND WHO KNOWS? YEAH.
I, I REMEMBER THE COMMENT ABOUT THE, I'M GONNA MOVE THIS.
SO SORT THE SMALLER MOM AND POP KIND OF PLACES, UH, BUT TO GIVE THEM HELP EVEN BUYING THE EQUIPMENT ISN'T ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO PUT IT IN MM-HMM.
CUZ THEY HAD THEIR OWN STAFF, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO YEAH, LAST YEAR IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THEIR IN SKY, RIGHT? OTHERWISE THESE PEOPLE WOULD NEVER CHANGE MM-HMM.
WELL THE, THE NEW ORDINANCE OR THE UPDATE TO THE ZONING CODE HASN'T PASSED YET.
UM, CUZ I KNOW IT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
THAT'S MY, MY PIPELINE IN, SO I KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S COMING.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS THAT THEY DO.
SO I'M COOL WITH THEM HELPING BUSINESSES BECOME COMPLIANT THAT NEED THE HELP.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S PART OF THEIR GUIDELINES AT THE MOMENT.
YOU WANNA CALL AND TALK IT OVER WITH THEM? NO, BECAUSE IT, HMM, NO, SURE.
BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING TOO WE CAN PUT CONTINGENCIES ON AND WE CAN SAY THE CONTINGENCY WOULD BE THAT THIS MONEY BE USED FOR BUSINESSES THAT SHOW A FI SHOW A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION.
AND THAT CAN BE CONTINGENCY, UH, SOUNDS REASONABLE.
BUT IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU GUYS FEEL.
I I I'M WONDERING IF WE STILL WANT TO CUT THAT NUMBER DOWN AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY NEED $10,000.
THE NEXT GROUP SHOULD BE DOWN
SO WE JUST GAVE, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA THESE NOW? YES.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANNA GIVE HIM 80%, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
SO LET'S PUT A NUMBER IN THERE.
NOW DO WE STILL WANT TO, DO WE WANNA MAKE THIS A CONTINGENCY? I STILL THINK YES.
WE NEED TO LIKE HELP THE ENCHANTMENT.
SO IF I TYPE IN 8,000 HERE, THAT'S WELL ENCHANTMENT A MOMENT.
THEY'RE NOT, WE DON'T GET THEIR TEXTS.
YOU GUYS, UM, CULTURAL PARK WE'RE GOING TO.
UM, BUT SHOULD WE LET THEM KNOW THAT? WELL, WE'RE GONNA CALL 'EM RIGHT NOW AND ASK THEM ABOUT MEETINGS.
LET THEM KNOW WHAT FIRST FIVE YEARS ABOUT THE CONTINUENCY CONT FEE.
BECAUSE THE THING IS, IF THEY SAY, NO, WE CAN'T, I MEAN WE, WE HAVE NO WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
THEN WE'LL JUST SAY FINE, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
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I'M SORRY, I MOVED THAT ON YOU.THEY BRING IN THE SERVICE ONE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THAT WAS HOW'S YOUR REAL JOB GOING? IT DOESN'T MISS ME TOO MUCH YET.
YOUR CANNOT, I GOT A BUNCH OF THINGS DONE BEFORE THIS STARTED.
SO YOUR CALL CANNOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DIAL NINE TO GET FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
DID, BUT I DIDN'T DIAL THE AREA.
A VACATION HOME RENTAL IN PAGOS SPRINGS, COLORADO AND THE LIST OF THINGS WE HAD TO DO, I SHARED THAT WITH HOLLY ONCE WAS LIKE, PLUS IT WAS SEVEN $50 A YEAR LICENSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNTY TO THINK.
NINE, EIGHT FOR THE LOCAL AREA CODE HERE.
AND SOMETIMES IT TELLS ME, AND SO WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH THAT LIST SAYING THAT, FIGURE IT OUT INCLUDING INSPECTIONS FOR YOUR HOME, THEN YOU NEED IT.
I'M LIKE, THE PERSON ACTUALLY CAME OUT, EXPECTED THAT THERE WERE PARKING PLACES, FIRE DETECTION SYSTEM.
YEAH, BUT THE SEVEN 50 PAID CRAIG IS TRAVELING, SO I BE, WE DON'T REACH HIM.
IT'S PARALLEL WILLIAMS. YOU KNOW.
SERIOUSLY, YOUR CALL CANNOT BE COMPLETED AS DIAL.
PLEASE CONSULT YOUR DIRECTORY AND PARDON ME FOR LAUGHING, BUT I DID SEE WHERE THE CITY MANDATED THE, JUST EXCUSE ME A MINUTE, A SECOND.
CAN YOU GO LOOK AT YOUR EMAILS WITH, UH, KEEP SEDONA BEAUTIFUL AND SEE IF WE HAVE NUMBER ANOTHER OR EVEN THE EMAILS.
MANDATED THE, UH, CERTIFIED LETTER NOTIFICATION OF, OF NEIGHBORS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
BEAUTIFUL METHOD INFO KEEPS ON A BEAUTIFUL ORG, BUT THEY MADE IT.
THIS IS, UH, CHECK ALL BOXES COMMITTEE, UM, THE CITY OF SEDONA.
IF, UH, SOMEONE FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION WOULD GIVE US A CALL BACK AT THE CITY, UM, UH, MANAGER'S PHONE NUMBER, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
SO AT THE MOMENT WE'LL PUT DOWN UM, OUR EIGHT AND WE'LL SEE IF WE GET A CALL BACK FROM THEM.
UM, WE'LL BE RUNNING ALONG, UM, BIRTH CENTER, THE UM, CENTER.
THROUGHOUT OUR NUMBER GUYS, LAST TIME WE GAVE THEM HALF BATH.
AND THEY HAD ASKED FOR THIS AMOUNT THIS TIME.
I WISH WE'D ASK WHAT? I MEAN, CAN THEY, CAN THEY GET BY WITH HALF? OH YEAH.
CAN THEY STILL DO? THAT'S TOTALLY SCALABLE.
THESE ARE ALL, HOW IS IT SCALABLE IF THEY'RE DOING SIX A YEAR, I MEAN, WHAT DO THEY DO? JUST THREE OR FOUR YEAR? THREE A YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY DID LAST TIME.
SHE SAID THEY HAD TO CUT, THEY JUST REDUCED THE NUMBER.
LAST TIME THEY ASKED FOR 28 5 WHEN WE GAVE EXACTLY HALF 14.
WE ENDED UP HAVING TO CUT EVERYBODY IN HALF.
BECAUSE WE HAD EXACT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAD EXACTLY HALF.
SO WE JUST, EVERYBODY WHO WAS SCALABLE MM-HMM.
WHAT LAST YEAR WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THE ONES THAT ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT BE SCALED IF THEY WERE WORTHY.
THEN WE WENT, WELL THEY'RE ALL WORTHY, BUT MM-HMM.
AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE JUST FELL.
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ALL THE SCALABLE PROGRAMS FELL IN LINE.AND VERY HONESTLY, THESE ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE USUAL SUSPECTS, KNOW THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
SO THEY COME IN WITH PROGRAMS AND WE TELL THEM IN THE WORKSHOP, COME IN WITH A PROGRAM THAT'S SCALABLE BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, YOU MAY VERY WELL END UP WITH NOTHING.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO HOW DO YOU WANNA SCALE THESE? DO YOU WANT, WE'VE ONLY GOT 99 LEFT.
UM, IF YOU WANNA DO, IF YOU WANNA START WORKING DOWN HERE, I MEAN, IF WE CUT EVERYBODY IN HALF FROM HERE DOWN, WHAT DO WE HAVE? DO YOU WANT TO TRY THAT? YEAH.
UM, SO IF YOU JUST DO EQUAL CHRISTINE DIVIDED BY TWO AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
FORMULAS ARE NOT MY STRONG POINT.
I CAN SWITCH EVERYBODY TO 50%.
WELL, WE NEED TO SEE IT THOUGH.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE DOES THAT OR IF IT DISPLAYS.
SHE'S STILL, IT MAY NOT BE RELATIVE.
AND YOU CONTROL V, V AS IN VICTOR.
IF WE CUT EVERYBODY IN HALF, WE'RE DOWN BY FIVE GRAND.
EXCEPT FOR THE BIKING CLUB THERE.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE DOWN SIX SCREEN.
THAT JUST COPIED THE ONE ABOVE IT.
IS THERE, UM, ANYTHING HERE THAT STANDS OUT? WELL, WE STILL HAVE THE WINE FEST IN.
THIS IS THE NUMBER I WANTED TO GIVE THEM.
UM, THIS WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL 54 KIDS, UH, TO GET THEM WATER.
WHERE THEY GET THEM TO SEE WHERE THEY, THE 5,000? YEAH.
ACCORDING TO MY CALS HERE FOR THEM, UH, BASED ON THE, THE NUMBERS THAT I, UH, GOT OUT YESTERDAY DURING THE DISCUSSION AND WITH WHILE OBJECTIVE.
WELL, THEN LET'S LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.
WE CAN LEAVE THEM AT 50 AND LOCK THEM IN.
WE'VE GOT HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT CUTTING MANZA DOWN A LITTLE BIT? YEAH.
WHAT DO YOU LIKE? HOW THAT ALL RIGHT.
UM, FOOD BANK, THEY NEED THEIR EQUIPMENT.
WHAT? WHY WERE THEY, I KNOW THEY WERE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
CAUSE WE, CAUSE WE LIKED THEM.
THE TRAINING? NO, THEY, THEY SAID THAT THEY, THEY WERE NOT SCALABLE.
BUT THEY COULD, IF THEY COULDN'T DO THAT, WE DID MORE THAN DO THE PROGRAM.
THE VISUAL ARTS COALITION SHOULD ONLY BE 75 AND NOT OKAY.
UM, OUR DISCUSS, WE GOTTA LEAVE THAT CHAMBER.
THE APPEAR EMPLOYERS, WHAT? LAST YEAR, ASKED FOR 14 AND YOU GAVE THEM EIGHT.
AND SHE, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED.
I'M JUST THINKING WHERE CHAMBER'S ALREADY DOWN FOUR.
WELL, KSB, UM, WE ALREADY TOOK ONE TO EIGHT SAC.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK HERE AT THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR $3,000 FOR THE MEMORIAL SERVICE
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AND OH, THE VETERANS.LET'S JUST SEE WHAT THEY'VE GOT HERE.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY USING? THIS IS THREE GRAND FOR, UM, I'M JUST THINKING THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH MONEY TO BEGIN WITH.
AND IF WE SHOULD BE CUTTING THEM, HOW WE'RE GONNA HURT THAT.
THEY'VE GOT 200 PEOPLE COMING IN THAT I THINK, WAIT A MINUTE, SEDONA.
COMMUNITY FOOD BANK WAS ONLY ASKING FOR 8,157.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT TO 75.
UM, SO THE REQUESTED GOT, UH, LET THE REQUESTED NUMBER'S NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY GONNA CHANGE THE BOTTOM LINE.
BUT WE'RE GIVING THEM MORE THAN THEY ASKED FOR
WELL, EVEN IF, EVEN IF YOU CUT A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS OFF OF THE ANGOLA PLAYERS, SHE'S STILL GETTING A, THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
I'M THINKING TAKING MAYBE TWO OFF THE MAP.
THAT'S NOT GONNA HURT HER SIGNIFICANTLY.
SHE SHOULD PROBABLY BE THRILLED WITH THAT.
I MEAN, LET'S LOOK, I REALLY WANNA LOOK AT THIS BETTER THING.
I I JUST DON'T WANNA GET THEM TOO SKINNY.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THEY'RE, SEE IF THE EVENT IS ONLY PARTIALLY FUNDED, SACO WILL SCALE BACK OTHER BUDGETED PROGRAMS SUCH AS FLAGS, VETERAN ASSISTANCE FUND, AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION DONATIONS.
AND I REALLY HATE TO CUT 'EM OFF AT THE KNEES LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT LIKE TOYS FOR TOSS AND STUFF.
TO BE HONEST, I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE VETERANS ASSOCIATION BACK UP TO THEIR FULL REQUEST AND KSB.
ALTHOUGH I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THEIR MISSION, AND I THINK WE COULD REDUCE THAT IF NEEDED.
UM, LET'S TAKE KSB DOWN TO, UM, TO FIVE.
UM, AND, OH, SEE IF I CAN REPORT BACK.
BUT NOW WE HAVE TO PUT THE VETS BACK UP TO, UM, SEDONA AREA VETERAN AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
I CAN'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE.
I'LL, IT'S LIKE GETTING ROAD RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY STARTING AT 50%? YEAH, WE DID.
AND THEN WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, WORKING IT OVER TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY MY NUMBER'S SO DIFFERENT FROM YOURS.
WHY I, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IT IN OUR FAVOR.
STREET HEAT IS A BRAND NEW PROGRAM.
WAIT, THERE'S A BIG, THE 1501 FOUNDATION'S A WEIRD NUMBER.
WELL, WHERE'D WE COME UP WITH THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT I THINK WAS A, A MISTAKE.
WAS IT? THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 5,000.
WELL, AND THIS IS BIKING CLUB.
THERE'S, OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE AT 10,000.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GIVE 'EM 50%.
WELL, THEN WE THOUGHT WE'D CUT THAT BACK DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW.
SO, WELL, FIVE 25% OF THEIR ASK.
UM, I HATE JUST GIVING 'EM THAT MUCH.
BUT YEAH, THIS, I THINK, WHAT DID WE DO WITH THEM LAST YEAR? DID YOU, DID YOU WHO? WHICH ONE? WHICH ONE? THE MOUNTAIN BIKING.
THEY GOT HALF, I'M PRETTY SURE THIS MOUNTAIN BIKING CLUB.
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE, THE SEDONA SCHOOL? YEAH, THE SEDONA SCHOOL.
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY SUCH A SMALL NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS, YOU KNOW.
BUT FOR THOSE KIDS, BUT A SMALL NUMBER.
THAT'S JUST SUCH A SMALL NUMBER OF KIDS.
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OKAY.UM, THE OTHER PLACE I KNOW, UM, DOES IT MATTER THAT THE, THE WINE FEST IS A 5 0 1 C FOUR? NO.
THE NICE THING ABOUT THE STREET HEAT IS THERE'LL BE HOPEFULLY ABLE TO USE THE LIBRARY OF WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED.
WELL, BUT THEY'VE SEEN PRETTY DONE THE FLYERS AND EVERYTHING.
WAS THERE, WHERE'S THE WYNDHAM? IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, FROM, UM, IT'S RIGHT NEXT.
IT, IT'S RIGHT ON THE CO RIGHT UP, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WINDSONG WINDSONG TRAILER PARK.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
HAS A DIFFERENT NAME, DOESN'T IT? NO.
I THINK, WELL, THERE'S KIND OF A COMMERCIAL THING UP FRONT, AND THEN THE WIND'S BEHIND THAT.
IS IT BEHIND THE, THE GOOSE? NO, NO, IT'S BEHIND.
UM, UM, WELL, THERE'S A, A SMALL LITTLE COMMERCIAL THING UP FRONT THAT ACTUALLY BELONGS TO THE WINDOM.
IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM, IT ACTUALLY OCCUPIES, UH, FROM WINDSONG ALMOST ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RECYCLING CENTER.
THAT WHOLE PROPERTY BACK THERE.
OH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WAS THERE WHEN, WHEN THEY HAD, WHEN STREET HEAT HAD THEIR INTERVIEW, WAS THERE A DISCUSSION? I THOUGHT I HEARD IN THE GROUP ABOUT OTHER PLACES GIVING AWAY BACKPACKS AND SCHOOL SUPPLIES.
SO IS THERE SOME DUPLICATION OF THAT? YES.
SO, DONNA, WOMEN, NOT AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS CHECKING ON.
I CALLED, I CALLED ABOUT EIGHT PLACES.
DIDN'T THE SEDONA WOMEN DO IT ONE YEAR? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CHECK WITH THEM.
BUT ROTARY USED TO DO IT, AND THEY'RE NOT, UM MM-HMM.
ON WHAT? WHAT THE, THE HOMELESS ALLIANCE PUSH SOUTH.
REALLY? WHY? BECAUSE OF NEED COLD BLUE.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN IT'S COLD.
THAT'S REALLY, I MEAN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AND WE'RE DEALING WITH PE WE'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE WELLBEING.
UM, OH, YOU MEAN IT'S TOO LOW OF A NUMBER? YEAH.
THOUGHT YOU, I NEED TO TAKE THEM OFF TO 15.
THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO TAKE LAST MORE OFF.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TAKE 'EM UP TO 15.
AND ISN'T THAT TRUE THAT LAST YEAR, THAT THE, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ITSELF, THAT THEY DID SOME ADJUSTMENT.
AND PART OF WHAT STOPPED THE MESSINESS WAS THAT THE CURRENT MAYOR SHUT IT DOWN.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MAYOR ANYMORE.
SHE SAID, WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING, WE'RE NOT GONNA, BUT THEY ENDED UP GIVING THEM MORE.
SOMEONE ENDED UP BAILING OUT, AND SO THEY TOOK THAT MONEY AND GAVE THEM, THEY TOOK IT AWAY FROM STEPS TO RECOVERY.
LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 20, BUT THEY GOT FIVE AS.
SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET THEM.
UH, THAT WAS FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE THOUGH.
THAT WAS A, WELL, THEY, WELL, THEY ALSO HAD A REALLY AWFUL, I MEAN, THE COMMITTEE MADE EVERY EFFORT LAST YEAR TO CLARIFY.
SA HA'S GRANT PROPOSAL AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND THEY, THE THING, THE, THE REASON I THINK THAT'S OKAY IS YEARS PREVIOUS TO LAST YEAR, SAHA WROTE AN ACCESS ACCEPTABLE GRANT AND GOT THE MONEY.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.
THEY HAD DONE WELL PREVIOUSLY AND SOMEHOW GAPPED LAST YEAR.
AND THEIR NEW GRANT PROPOSAL SHOWS THEY CAN WRITE A GOOD GRANT.
THE NEW PROPOSAL IS, IS VERY TIGHT.
SO IF WE TAKE THEM NOW, WE'RE IN THE WHOLE, LIKE EIGHT GRAND OR SOMETHING.
WHAT DID YOU TAKE THEM UP TO? 15.
WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE OUR THING ON THE SCREEN.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, CANCER SUPPORT? YEAH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, THIS IS, AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE ARGUMENTS THAT IT'S SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THEIR BUDGET.
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THEY'RE SCALABLE.I MEAN, WELL, IT'S NOT JUST WIGS, IT'S THE IN-PERSON, THE IN-PERSON SUPPORT.
NOW WE ALREADY HAVE 'EM AT 50%, WHICH IS ONLY $5,000.
SO THAT BROUGHT 'EM DOWN IN MY, AND THE OTHER THING IS THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE REALLY SERVING SEDONA RESIDENTS? I MEAN, I THINK THERE, THE CANCER SUPPORT MM-HMM.
I MEAN, THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN COME FROM PRESCOTT TO THE CANCER CENTER HERE.
BUT DON'T THEY KNOW? I THINK THEY KNOW.
I KNOW WHERE THE PERSON LIVES.
LET ME JUST SEE WHAT, HOW MANY, HOW MANY THEY HAVE NUMBER.
AND THEY, I BET THEY'D ANSWER THE PHONE.
WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? WELL, NO, LET'S JUST SEE HOW MANY THEY SERVE.
THEY'RE, I THINK THEY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
THEY HAVE A HUNDRED UNDUPLICATED.
A HUNDRED NEED CANCER PATIENTS IN SEDONA.
WHAT'S THEIR, WHAT'S THEIR TOTAL BUDGET? UH, UH, THEY SENT THAT AS A SUPPLEMENT.
IT WAS BECAUSE THEY'RE, DO YOU WANNA PULL THAT UP? THAT PAGE THAT CAME FROM CANCER RESEARCH LAST YEAR.
REMEMBER THEM? IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS.
THEY DID ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THERE IN THAT THERE, THE, UM, THE, THE CITY, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE CITY'S NOT FOND OF ANYH.
BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT A, THEY'RE AFFILIATED, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, HIRED BY NEH MM-HMM.
SO THEY ARE NOT NEH WHAT'S, WHAT'S THEIR TOTAL BUDGET? CAN ANYBODY LOOK AT THAT? WELL, THE TOTAL EXPLAIN 2000 FOR THEIR SEDONA ONLY PROGRAM.
NO, BUT THEIR TOTAL TOTAL IS, OH, IT'S IN THE MILLIONS.
WE GRADE ON I KNOW THE PROGRAM SPECIFIC.
I'M LOOK MORE AT THE FOLKS LIKE SIF THAT HAVE, ARE ASKING FOR YEAH.
THEN IT'S EASILY SCALABLE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, EVENTS.
I KIND OF HAD THE IMPRESSION WITH CIF THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THIS ANYWAY.
PROBABLY, BUT THEY WANT 30,000.
WE'VE GOT 'EM AT 15,000 AND WE'RE OFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR'S $28,000.
AND LAST YEAR THEY RECEIVED 14, 2 50.
SO IF WE JUST TAKE A LITTLE HERE, THERE, UM, WERE WE HAPPY LEAVING? I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM, WE'VE GOT THE WINE FEST AT 20%, WHICH IS FAIR CUZ THEY AREN'T THE LAST 30% FOR THE MOUNTAIN BIKING CLUB.
WE'VE GOT HOPE HOUSE AT 52% AND 50% FOR SAILFISH STREET HEAT AND THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY ARE DOWN THERE.
DO YOU WANNA LEAVE THEM AT 50%? OH, AND THEN PIANO ON THE ROCKS AND EMERSON ARE THE NEXT TWO.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING IF WE TAKE, I'LL TELL YOU THE HARD, I THINK, I THINK WHERE THE HARD SALE IS GOING TO BE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME PUSHBACK.
IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE 30 SURGEON AS IS.
WE ARE SAR THEY'RE AT A HUNDRED.
I KNOW, BUT FROM COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL, THEY, THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T THINK THEY'D FUND.
THEY, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME IN HISTORICALLY.
THEY HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING BEHIND.
UM, UM, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A SOPHISTICATED
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SEARCH AND RESCUE, UM, OPERATION THAT IS NOT STRICTLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.I'M NOT JUST SERVING SEDONA RESIDENCE.
NOT JUST SERVING SEDONA RESIDENCE.
THAT THAT'S, THAT THERE ARE TOURISTS OUT THERE.
THAT'S A HARD, THAT'S A, THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO WRAP THEIR ARMS AROUND.
LET ME SEE WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT SCALABILITY.
LET'S, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND NOT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I, I JUST THINK THEIR WORK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
BUT WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO WAS THE DATA THAT THEY PROVIDE IS VERY, IS IS IS WONDERFUL PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF INFORMATION ABOUT THESE RESCUES.
BUT, AND THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY, UM, PUSHED THEM OVER THE TOP LAST YEAR WAS THE FACT THAT THERE WERE, THERE WAS A, UH, THERE WAS A LADY OUT ON, UM, IN LAURIE CANYON OR SOMEWHERE.
NO, SHE WAS IN OAK, UH, OUT BY, UH, BELL ROCK.
AND HAD THEY NOT GOTTEN THERE IN TIME, SHE WOULD'VE DIED.
SO IT'S THAT KIND OF THING THAT, THAT PUSHES THEM OVER THE TOP.
IT HAS TO BE THAT DRAMATIC FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO REALLY GET HISTORICALLY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR ARMS AROUND.
SO WHAT THEY SAY IS, IF WE ARE ONLY PARTIALLY FUNDED, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLETELY FUND A SEARCH DOG UNIT.
WE WOULD MAKE THE DIFFICULT CHOICE TO CONTINUE SEARCH OPERATIONS WITHOUT THE TIME SAVINGS AND SAFETY PROVIDED BY A SEARCH DOG UNIT.
AND THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO INFORM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO RAMP UP AS REQUESTED.
WELL, THE OTHER, HERE'S THE OTHER INDIRECT BENEFIT TO SEDONA IS THE IMPACT ON TOURISM AND SEDONAS REPUTATION AS BEING A SAFE PLACE TO HIKE AND HAVING RESOURCES FOR HIKERS IMPACTS TOURISM AND ATTRACTION.
WELL, NO, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY, BUT IT IS A JUSTIFICATION.
BUT IT'S THE, WHAT I THINK TIPPED THEM OVER BEFORE WAS IT'S THE HEALTH AND SAFETY.
NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FUN OF A FESTIVAL.
IF YOU HAVE ONE RESIDENT DIE OUT THERE, CUZ THEY DIDN'T GET TO 'EM IN TIME.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING CAPABILITIES.
I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE.
AND THEY WANTED TO ADD TWO DOGS.
DID IT SAY ONE? WELL, AND THE, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, WELL I'M ALL, I'M ON TOTALLY ON BOARD.
IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY DOGS ARE IN THE CANINE UNIT.
IS IT WHY THEY ACTUALLY HAVE DOGS IN THEIR CANINE UNIT? I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.
BUT THIS IS AT THE REQUEST OF Y C SSO.
THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COMMENT.
THAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THE REQUEST.
UM, WHAT WE DO? ANYTHING, JAMES? OKAY.
I THINK WE CAN, UM, VISUAL ARTS, I THINK WE CAN TAKE IN THIS INSTANCE.
I THINK VISUAL ARTS IS CURRENTLY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I THINK WE CAN TAKE THEM DOWN TO FIVE.
THAT'S THE MARKETING FOR THE, UM, OPEN STUDIOS.
AND I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THEM AT HALF SEVEN.
WHAT ABOUT CHAMBER OF MUSIC? YEAH.
WELL, I'M THINKING MAYBE, WHAT WAS THE ST.
VINCENT DEPAUL THING ABOUT ST.
VINCENT DEPAUL IS THE TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE FIXING PEOPLE'S CARS.
IS IT WORTH FIXING? IT? SHOULD YOU HAVE A CAR? RIGHT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY THOROUGHLY THOUGHT.
THEY, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES, I THINK.
I, I THINK MAYBE WE CAN PICK UP ANOTHER COUPLE GRAND THERE.
EMERSON, I WANT, WHAT ARE YOU POINTING AT? YEAH.
EMERSON IS DOWN NEAR THE BOTTOM.
SO IT'S VALID IF YOU WANT YEAH.
LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT, WAIT A MINUTE.
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WHY? I'LL TELL YOU WHY.THEY, UM, THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB.
THEY ALSO BRING AN ELEMENT OF ART TO THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE.
EVERY, EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS MONEY SPECIFICALLY TO PUT ON ONE PLAY.
SO THE ADMISSION WOULD BE LESS THAN NORMAL.
THAT'S WHAT THE IS TO, IS TO ALLOW THEM TO OFFER THIS TO THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE, WHICH SATISFIES THE CRITERIUM OF MM-HMM.
SO ALSO, IT'S, IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE FEW LIVE THEATER KIND OF THINGS AROUND HERE THAT EXIST ANYMORE.
BUT SEE FUTURE, THE SEDONA ARTS CENTER AND THE FILM FESTIVAL FROM 15,000 TO 12,000.
I THINK, WE'LL, I THINK WE'LL GET OUR TARGET.
DON'T WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH LUNCH? I MEAN, I KIND OF COUNTED ON LUNCH.
WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A VERY GOOD DIALOGUE.
WELL, THEN WHAT WE COMMENTS WITH THE COMMENTS.
WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANT, I THINK YOU DO A MAGNIFICENT JOB DISTILLING IN A PHRASE OR A SENTENCE THERE.
SO WE HAVE $161 HUNDRED BONUS.
SO, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA COME FROM? IS, WHERE'S THAT UNEVEN ONE A HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN BUCKS UP THERE.
WELL, LOOK AT YOUR HOPE HOUSE.
HOPE HOUSE IS, NO, THIS IS 35.
SO SOMEBODY WANTS, SO, SO JUST DO HERE, UM, DO JUST DO 16 WHAT STREET HEAT.
WHAT'S 1 65 AND SIX? WHAT ARE WE HEARING? THEY SAID OVER HERE, HE'S FROM LAS VEGAS.
REMEMBER, 1 61 PLUS OH, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
SOMETHING AGAINST ROUTE NUMBERS YOU GUYS.
NO, IT'S EXACTLY WAY TO GO FOR USE.
DO YOU AGREE, CHRISTINE? MM-HMM.
BEFORE YOU WERE DIFFERENT HEARING, I THOUGHT.
I, THIS IS WHY A GROUP IS SO GREAT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE PEOPLE, WE JUST HAVE SUCH A GAMUT OF LET'S RUN DOWN THE WHOLE THING AGAIN.
I SUGGEST JUST DO SOME SORT OF, UM, WELL, LET ME GET SOME COFFEE FIRST.
I DON'T USUALLY EAT ANYTHING UNTIL BEFORE LIKE 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
IT'S ONLY UNTIL WHEN YOU GET UP AT FIVE YEAH.
A LONG WAY TO STRETCH IT TO LUNCH.
BUT IF, IF YOU GUYS GET THAT DOCUMENT DONE, THE GOOD NEWS OF THAT IS IT CAN BE DELIVERED TO COUNCIL.
HOW, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON, UM, DOING THE, I'M GONNA TAKE, I'M GONNA TAKE STEPHANIE'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
ARE WE GETTING ANY TRAINING? NO.
FOR THIS, THIS MEET COUNSEL? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE TRAINING.
WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS I'LL SIT DOWN WITH KAREN, TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN REQUEST THAT I MEET WITH COUNSEL.
THEN YOU'LL EXPLAIN THEM THAT THERE'S A PROCESS AND HOW WE'VE EDIT.
THEY DON'T NOW WE GOT A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GRADING THEM, WHAT WE'RE GRADING THEM ON.
AND IT'S NOT JUST WE LIKE THESE PEOPLE BETTER THAN THOSE PEOPLE.
WELL, ONE OF THE DEMONSTRABLE THINGS THAT, THAT
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HAS HAPPENED IS THE BIG, THE BIG UPSET LAST YEAR WAS THAT SAHA DIDN'T GET FUNDED.AND THERE'S A CLEAR TIE NOW TO THEIR BETTER, MORE THOROUGH PROPOSAL.
AND THEIR FUNDING IS SIGNIFICANTLY UP.
SO THERE'S THE, THE METRIC THAT SHOWS MM-HMM.
YOU'RE TALKING THE HOMELESS GROUP, RIGHT.
I THOUGHT THEY DID GET ONE LAST.
WELL, THEY GOT, THEY GOT $5,000.
AND THEN, UM, COUNCIL DID NOT WANT TO AWARD THE $3,000 THAT WE WERE GONNA GIVE TO STEPS TO RECOVERY.
AND SO THE SUGGESTION FROM ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS THAT $3,000 NOT AWARDED THE STEPS TO RECOVERY BE MOVED OVER TO THE HOMELESS ALLIANCE.
SO WHY WAS THAT CONTROVERSIAL? BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THAT REALLY FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE HOMELESS ALLIANCE IS IMPORTANT.
BUT IT KIND OF, IT KIND OF ENDED UP BYPASSING ALL THE GRADING, YOU KNOW, THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY GET.
WELL, THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED IS THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OPEN TO PULL FUNDING FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD ALREADY RECEIVED REWARDS TO BOOST THE FUNDING FOR THE HOMELESS ALLIANCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WAS SHUT DOWN.
THERE WAS AN OPENED DISCUSSION FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER TO START PULLING FUNDS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT THE COUNCIL HAD ALREADY WORKED THE AWARDS OUT FROM, AND THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR SHUT DOWN AND SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BEHIND THE COUNCIL AND SECOND GUESS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT WOULD'VE, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN THERE FOR 24 HOURS FOR THAT.
WELL, AND TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU, IF THAT TYPE OF THING HAD HAPPENED, I WOULDN'T HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO THIS PROCESS AND EVERYTHING WOULD, WOULD BE SO UNDERMINED THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT,
JUST BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT WE DO HERE IS SOLID.
WELL, AND THAT'S, IT'S GOOD DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL.
WELL, AND THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATION AND THE COUNCIL AND VETTING THIS BEFOREHAND, IS TO REALLY HAVE A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S LOOKED AT.
I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE PUT IN SIX WEEKS OF, OF CONSISTENT WORK OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING.
AND, UM, SO THIS IS A VERY CAREFUL, THOROUGH PROCESS.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED WELL, IT'S NOT IN THE LEAST BIT ARBITRARY.
THERE IS NO ARBITRARY, UM, UH, PART OF THIS PROCESS.
SO I, I THINK IT IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, WELL, THE IMPACT OF THE LOSS OF SIGNIFICANT MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE REALLY, UH, IN TERMS OF CHALLENGE TO THE CITY CONTINUING THE PROCESS.
BUT THE LOSS OF KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT THIS GROUP HAS IS, WOULD BE TREMENDOUS.
AND I ASK BECAUSE BILL IS A LONG, LONG, LONG TERM YEAH.
WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S ONE THING TO DO SUCCESSION PLANNING AND CHOOSE RECOGNIZING AT SOME POINT, UNLESS WE FIND SOME MIRACLE DRUGS FOR YOU GUYS, PEOPLE WILL BE TRANSITIONING OFF COMMITTEE.
BUT IF WE KNOW THAT AND WE PLAN FOR IT, AND IT'S A DIALOGUE AND A PROCESS THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN JUST A, A LOSS.
SO YOU NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT AS WELL.
WELL, I MEAN, WE HAD A HOPEFULLY ADD MORE STOOD WITH US.
WELL, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SERVE ON THE ART CENTER BOARD.
SO, BUT THEN WOULDN'T YOU JUST RECUSE YOURSELF? THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.
CAUSE IF THERE'S, RIGHT NOW THE POLICY IS THAT IF YOU'RE SERVING ON ANY BOARD, ANY BOARD, ANY, OKAY.
I, I POINTED OUT TO STEPHANIE, THAT REALLY REDUCES YOUR POOL OF POSSIBLE PEOPLE.
BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, THE, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON THOSE BOARDS ARE PRETTY WELL INTEGRATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I'D BE HAPPY TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ART CENTER DISCUSSIONS.
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WE'RE AT OUR NUMBER.SO IF WE WERE TO SIT DOWN AND START TACKLING THE NARRATIVE MM-HMM.
SO YOU WANT ACCESS TO THIS FOR YOUR NARRATIVE? I CAN.
SO, UM, WE CAN CONTINUE TO ACCESS IT.
YEAH, WE CAN KEEP THIS UP HERE THOUGH.
DO WE NEED, UM, THAT THING ON WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THE NARRATIVES? YEAH, PROBABLY.
WHY CAN'T I REMEMBER WHAT THAT'S CALLED? THIS CORNER.
IT'S A WEIRD, IT'S A WEIRD LITTLE MACHINE VISUALLY.
AND I THINK WITH MAN'S ANITA OUTREACH, THE, THE SHE NUMBERS ARE INCREDIBLE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING WHY DID THEY LAND? THEY GOT, OH YEAH.
THEY GOT COMMUNITY IMPACT, HIGH PUBLIC PURPOSE, CITY NEED, EVERYTHING'S HIGH METRICS, THEIR STRENGTH, THEIR FINANCES.
EVERY, THEY JUST NAILED EVERYTHING.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY THAT YOU, THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO FULLY FUND THEM, BUT WE ALSO NEEDED TO PUT MONEY ELSEWHERE.
BUT THE, THE IMPACT IS TREMENDOUS ON THE CITY.
THEY, TO, TO ME, THE, THE KEYS TO, UM, GIVING THEM, THEY FILL THE FOOD GAP AND THEN NUTRITION WITH FRESH, UM, FRESH PRODUCE.
THAT'S A BIGGIE BECAUSE THE, YEAH.
AND THEN THE HOME DELIVERY DELIVERY 1200 OR MORE HOUSEHOLDS IN SEDONA ON SATURDAY.
I THINK IT WAS 14, BUT IT'S OVER 12 HOUSE.
THAT'S A LOT OF 1200 PLUS PEOPLE.
PEOPLE SAY 1200 PLUS PEOPLE EVERY SATURDAY.
WELL, OUT OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF OTHER FOOD.
OUTSIDE OTHER, BECAUSE IT COULD BE JUST NIGHTTIME.
I THINK HE SAID NIGHTTIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GET HOME FROM WORK.
I THINK WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL ADAPT TO WHATEVER'S NEEDED.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED FOOD SERVICE, I THINK THEY, THEY WOULD ADAPT TO WHATEVER TIME REQUIRE OUTSIDE OF OTHER FOOD UNLOCK NUMBERS.
HE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY STAY WHEN HE JUST SAID HOME DELIVERIES.
NO, HE ALSO WAS TALKING ABOUT, HE SAID SATURDAYS THOUGH EVERY SATURDAY.
I MEAN, IN, IN WRITING, HE SAID HOME DELIVERIES.
HE, SATURDAYS, SATURDAYS, ETC.
OR SATURDAYS IS THIS SATURDAY SINCE HE'S SPECIFIED SATURDAY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE NUMBERS HERE BECAUSE, UM, IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE HOME DELIVERIES NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALSO TALKING ABOUT UPPING THE NUTRITION IN THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE MM-HMM.
AND SO IT MAY BE THAT THAT NUMBER IS NOT JUST HOME DELIVERIES.
IT MIGHT ALSO INCLUDE THE FOOD PACKS THAT GOES TO SCHOOLS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE 30 EVERY MONTH THAT GOES TO A CLASSROOM SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, IT MIGHT, IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW PICKY YOU WANT TO BE ABOUT THAT, BUT I, I DON'T THINK, I THINK HIS WAS A TOTAL NUMBER.
WHO THEY'RE HE DOESN'T WHICH PROGRAM? NO, IT COULD BE SCHOOL.
SEE, IT COULD INCLUDE THE SCHOOL IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO I'M SAYING IF YOU SAID 1500 PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET DELIVERED FOOD, THAT RIGHT.
YOU GOTTA BE A LITTLE SLOPPIER WITH YOUR NUMBERS THERE.
WELL SAY, UM, SERVING 13, SERVING SO MANY THAT MANY SEDONA RESIDENTS.
I'LL JUST SAY SERVES 1,397, WHICH IS MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
1300 1000 321 21 IS WEDDING PLACE.
1003, WHICH IS MORE THAN, WHICH IS OVER TWICE GETTING REFUSED.
AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNDUPLICATED SEDONA RESIDENCE.
WELL, AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THEM.
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I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE BEING ABLE TO BE DUPLICATED.DEAN KIND OF STANDS ON HIS OWN, UM, FOOD BANK.
WELL, TO ME THE, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BESIDES WHAT THEY SERVE, THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS FINISHING, UM, WHAT WE STARTED WITH THEM LAST YEAR WAS GETTING THEIR, UM, FOOD PANTRY SET UP.
SO IF YOU STOP NOW, WE KIND OF LEAVE THEM HALF, LIKE YOUR HOUSE IS HALF BUILT.
SO IT'S, IT'S LETTING THEM FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED LAST YEAR TO, TO GIVE EVERYBODY A BETTER EXPERIENCE.
THEY HAVE THEIR BUILDING, THEY HAVE THEIR REFRIGERATION UNITS AND SHELVES THAT WE GAVE THEM.
NOW THEY JUST NEED, YOU KNOW, LAST BIDS OF THE FURNITURE.
BUT LIKE THE PREP TABLES ARE, THEY'RE IMPORTANT THINGS.
THESE ARE HUGE BIG STAINLESS STEEL COMING TABLES WHERE THEY TAKE ALL THE, THE SEMI USED VEGETABLES, YOU KNOW, AND KIND OF MAKE THEM LOOK, LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
AGAIN, IF WE DON'T HELP THEM GET THIS LAST BIT, WE'RE KIND OF SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT IN WHAT WE GAVE THEM.
WELL, AND I THINK IT'S PHENOMENAL THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE NOW.
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARD THAT FOR A LONG TIME AND NOW THEY'RE ESTABLISHED.
SO, UM, WE'RE IMPRESSED THAT THEY'RE ESTABLISHED.
WE KNOW THEY PROVIDE AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WE'VE CONSISTENTLY BEEN GIVING, YOU KNOW, FIRST WAS THE REFRIGERATOR AND THEN THE, UM, THEN THE, UM, PRODUCE, UH, UH, THE OPEN GLASS THINGS, AREN'T THEY? AREN'T THEY? YEAH.
UM, AND THIS, THIS FINISHES THEIR SETUP.
SO ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS I MADE TO KAREN THE OTHER DAY IS THEY ONLY ASK FOR WHAT THEY NEED.
THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T PAD IT.
THEY'RE CONSISTENTLY NOT PADDING IT.
IT'S NOT LIKES, YOU KNOW,
YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S THE FLEXIBILITY.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NO, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
NO, NO, NO, NO, I'M NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY, THEY'RE JUST VERY SPECIFIC.
WE CAN CHANGE THE, THE ADMISSION TICKET PRICE.
THEY CAN'T CHANGE THE COST OF THE TABLE.
IN FACT, THE LONGER THEY WAIT, THE PRICE IS GONNA GO UP.
IN THE SEARCH AND RESCUE SEARCH AND OH, OKAY.
THE MAIN THING IS THIS IS REQUESTED BY YEP.
THE ARGUMENT IT'S GOING TO BE, WELL, ARE THESE DOGS GONNA BE USED OUTSIDE OF, ARE THEY GONNA BE USED FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY? THEY WOULD NOW BE AVAILABLE FOR US.
LOOK, THEY'VE GOT COUNTYWIDE DOGS NOW IN PRESCOTT, APPARENTLY.
THAT'S, UH, A REAL WELL THEY PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION FOR US MM-HMM.
WELL, WHY ISN'T COTTONWOOD AND CLARKDALE AND JEROME AND CAMP VERDE PAYING FOR PLACE BECAUSE, UM, THEY RESCUE, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY'RE CUZ THEY ARE, I THINK THEY'RE CALLED OUT IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
SO WHY ARE WE SHOULDERING THEM? AND THE CALL OUTS DON'T JUST HELP US, IT HELPS THEM MAINTAIN THEIR PROFICIENCY WITH THE DOGS.
THEY'RE IN TRAINING EVERY WEEK, PERIOD.
AND THEN WITH THE RESCUES THAT TAKE PLACE AS WELL, THE SEARCHES, MOST OF THEM TAKE PLACE UP HERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING IS, IS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR THE AREA, WE'VE GOT THE HIKING MM-HMM.
OH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
WE WANT THE CAPABILITY, THE HIGHEST USAGE
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I THINK UTILIZED HERE.AND, AND I I'M WITH, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? BUT BUT DON'T, DOES THE COUNCIL EVER SAY, WELL HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEY RESCUE ARE SEDONA? OH YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF A NO NO, THAT'S A ABSOLUTELY.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THAT'S A HARD ONE.
FOR US REALLY, ISN'T IT? WELL, NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THEY GIVE US, THEY GAVE US THE UM, THEY GIVE US THOSE NUMBERS AND LET ME JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT.
UM, AND OUT OF THE, UH, THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT.
THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T TOTAL 'EM GONNA KIND OF COUNT THEM.
BUT THEY'RE YEAH, YOU CAN, BUT THEY'RE ALL SEDONA.
WELL, I ONLY, I THINK I ONLY ASKED THEM FOR ALL SEDONA.
OH, THEY, THEY DO HAVE OTHER ONES HERE.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S OTHERS MIXED IN HERE.
BUT IT LOOKS, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE SEDONA, SEDONA, SEDONA, HUMBOLDT, SEDONA, SEDONA, SEDONA, SEDONA, SEDONA, CAMP VERDE.
WE COULD COUNT THEM ALL, BUT WELL, NO, WELL WE CAN JUST SAY THE PERCENTAGE, THE PERCENTAGE OF RESCUES, 98% OF 'EM ARE HERE, ARE IN OUR, ARE IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA.
SECRET CANYON MES, SKILL TRAILHEAD.
PERKINS STILL, WELL THAT'S OUT THERE.
ENCHANTMENT SOLDIERS PASS BLACK CANYON TRAILHEAD THAT'S OUT THERE.
UNLESS YOU WANNA TRY COURTHOUSE ENCHANTMENT.
I'D SAY, UM, THE VAST PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD.
AND I JUST, I'M GONNA JUST COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY WE RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, I'M GONNA SAY, UM, 95% PLUS CUZ THAT'S TRUE.
UM, YOU SEEM TO HAVE SOME GRAY ALERTS OR SILVER ALERTS AS WELL.
AND THESE DOGS CAN CERTAINLY FIND MM-HMM.
WE HAD ONE OF THOSE A COUPLE YEARS AGO NEAR US.
REMEMBER THAT RIGHT OUTSIDE, UM, UM, GER ON OFF OF GARDEN SOMEWHERE.
IT WAS A SILVER ALERT FOR YEAH.
NO, THEY LANDED THE HELICOPTER KNOWS AND OKAY, SO ELDER ALERTS, AND THIS IS NO FOR THAT ONE, THEY JUST FLEW OVER.
SO THAT WE RECENTLY HIT THE PD RECENTLY DID A ATTEMPT TO LOCATE A DEMENTIA PATIENT THAT WALKED OUT, I THINK IT WAS COFFEE POT AND THERE WAS SNOW ON THE GROUND AT THE TIME.
THEY WERE TRACKING FOOTPRINTS IN THE SNOW.
IF THEY HAD THE SCENT DOG, THAT WOULD'VE HELPED DRAMATICALLY.
EVERY COP ON DUTY WAS HUNTING FOR THIS PERSON.
JUST GOING ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRING UP IS THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT.
HAD THERE BEEN A DOG AVAILABLE THAT DOG THAT WOULD SO, UM, CUT THE TIME OFF, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER WHEN YOU WERE YEAH, YEAH.
WHEN YOU WERE SENIOR GROUND AND THIS PERSON JUST LOCKED OUT THE FRONT DOOR.
IT WAS LAST, UM, IT WAS THIS YEAR.
UM, WE COULD ALWAYS ASK THE PD TO PULL IT UP IF YOU WANT THE SPECIFICS.
THERE WAS SNOW ON THE GROUND CUZ THEY WERE FOLLOWING TRACKS IN THE SNOW.
I DON'T, THEY DID FIND THE PERSON.
I JUST, I JUST KNOW EVERYONE WAS ON BOARD HUNTING.
A LOT OF MANPOWER INSTEAD OF DOG POWER.
CAUSE THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF SPECIFIC ANECDOTES YES.
THAT GET US OVER THE TOP OF MOST OF THE PUSHBACK.
AND I MEAN IT'S, IT IS RIGHT ON.
BUT THEY NEED THAT TYPE OF GRAPHIC VISUAL.
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ACTUALLY, MY HUSBAND'S GRANDFATHER DIED BECAUSE HE WANDERED OFF.AND THEY DIDN'T FIND HIM IN TIME AND, AND HE DIED WHILE HE WAS OUT.
IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT IT'S A SHAME IT HAPPENS.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN GET SEE IF, UM, ONE OF THE OFFICERS CAN PULL UP THE EXACT DETAIL CUZ I'M GOING OFF MEMORY
BUT IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN, IF WE CAN GET AS MUCH DETAIL ON THAT AS WE CAN AND THAT WILL, UH, UM, THAT WILL HELP OUR CASE.
WHO'S THIS? UM, AFTER SEARCHING HER ANGLO ANG.
AND THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE UNIQUE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S THEREAFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. UM, THEIR, UH, THEIR ENRICHMENT AND THE ENRICHMENT OF THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM, UM, FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF AGE GROUPS WAS ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED.
THEY'RE CAPABLE OF NOT ONLY ONE GRADE LEVEL, BUT MM-HMM.
UM, AND THEY'RE ALL, UM, THEY EVEN MENTIONED CHESS.
ESTEEM BUILT THEIR, YOU KNOW, UM, FOCUSED ON, FOCUSED ON, UM, ESTEEM.
THE OTHER THING THEY ACCOMPLISHED THIS LAST YEAR WAS PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT.
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US OF THAT.
THAT WAS SO GOOD TO HEAR, WASN'T IT? YEAH.
WELL, AND AND YOU COULD TELL BY THE WAY SHE SPOKE OF IT, THAT THIS WAS LIKE A CODE THEY'D BEEN TRYING TO CRACK FOR YEARS.
SO THIS WAS THE RESULT OF LONG EFFORT ON THEIR PART AND IT WAS COULD PART THAT BROUGHT THAT DID IT, ISN'T IT INTERESTING? YEAH.
YOU COULD ALSO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE SEDONA WORKING FAMILIES, UH, AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT A NECESSARILY A, UH, TOTAL VOLUNTEER SHOW UP IF YOU WANT TO THING THESE KIDS ARE SITTING AROUND WITH NOTHING TO DO.
ACTUALLY, IT'S KIND OF OFF TOPIC, BUT I DID, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT FOLLOWING UP WITH ARTS AND CULTURE DIRECTOR AND I TALKED WITH HER THIS MORNING ABOUT MAYBE HOOKING UP WITH, UM, COOL ELISE TO DO A MINUTE MOMENT OF ART.
AND SO THAT WOULD INCREASE THE VISIBILITY OF THAT PROGRAM.
AND SHE WAS NANCY, OUR DIRECT OUR COORDINATOR WAS INTERESTED.
SO I'LL GIVE HER THAT'S REALLY COOL INFORMATION.
WELL, I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO BE HAPPY THAT IT'S, IT'S MAKING THEIR WILDCAT PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL.
AND, AND THAT'S NOT AN EASY RESOURCE FOR THEM TO ATTRACT.
LAST YEAR, UM, SUCCEEDED IN THE ROAD ROCK NOTICE YESTERDAY, UM, THEY HAD OF THE, UM, WEST SEDONA AND THE RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL KIND OF TEACHERS OF THE YEAR THAT WERE CHOSEN BY MM-HMM.
AND THE ONE FROM WEST SEDONA ELEMENTARY WAS, UM, A KINDERGARTEN TEACHER WHO HAD AN AFTER SCHOOL TWICE A WEEK.
HIKING CLUB AT WEST SEDONAS THAT WOULD MUST BE PART OF THIS WILDCAT PROGRAM.
AND I THOUGHT, WELL THAT'S A GREAT, YES.
THAT'S A TERRIFIC THING TO DO TO GET, KEEP 'EM MOVING, YOU KNOW,
MM-HMM
IT'S NEVER TOO YOUNG FOR CHEMISTRY.
SO I WASN'T AWARE THAT THEY DID HAVE THAT.
DO YOU NEED MORE PAPER? THEY THANK YOU.
I WISH I HAD SEEN THE VISITING PLANETARIUM AND ACTUALLY SHE'S, UH, ASKING FOR MONEY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE WEST SEDONA SCHOOL.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING IT NOW.
IT WAS, SHE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT IT WAS TO
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REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE WEST SEDONA SCHOOL FOR WHAT'S THAT ING, VISUAL ARTIST COALITION.THE OTHER THING I USUALLY SAY TOO IS, YOU KNOW, YOU STILL DO THAT.
DID THEY EVER INCREASE THE DOLLARS? THEY DID LAST YEAR.
WELL, WE HAD TRADITIONALLY HAD HUNDRED 65,000 HUNDRED 60,000.
SO THIS LAST YEAR THEY INCREASED IT TO TWO.
I DON'T NEED ANY HELP WITH THAT.
UM, THEN IT'S THE ARTS FESTIVAL, ART FESTIVAL.
CHAMBER MUSIC DON'T NEED ANY HELP.
UM, I THINK I CAN PROBABLY, I KNOW ALL THE REASONS THERE.
UM, WELL NO, MAYBE WE SHOULD GO OFF THAT, UH, THAT UM, AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO FUND THEM.
I JUST THINK THE, THEY ASKED FOR FOOD, MONEY, UM, FOOD, UH, THERE'S LIKE WHAT INSECURITIES? THERE'S LIKE SEVEN OTHER SAVONA ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THE, THAT YEAH.
UM, WITHOUT GAPS IN, UM, WELL IN THE TYPE OF, YOU MIGHT WANT TO, YOU MIGHT WANNA MENTION THAT THEY PROVIDE SOME VERY UNIQUE AND NEEDED SERVICES.
UM, HOWEVER, COMMEND THEIR, THEIR APPLICATION WAS FOR, UH, TO MEET FOOD INSECURITIES FOR, UM, AROUND A HUNDRED SONSONA.
FOOD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING MET, YOU KNOW, BY SEVERAL OTHER, I'D SAY ADDRESSED RATHER THAN MET, ADDRESSED BY, UM, YOU SAY NO FIVE OTHER ORBS AND GUYS JUST FLEW THROUGH THINGS.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE PRECEDENT SETTING THING.
KSB, WE WILL SLOW FUNDED IN IF WE COULD, BUT WE, NO, WE WERE PUTTING, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? STIPULATION.
THE, THEY, UM, TAKE TAKING AN ACCOUNT NEED BE, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS IS HARDSHIP BECAUSE WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT'S BECOME A CITY ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY MM-HMM.
UM, WITH, UM, THE NEW ORDINANCE, I LIKE AN, I LIKE CHRISTINE'S ANTICIP MANDATORY.
THE ANTICIPATION OF THE NEW ORDINANCE CUZ IT HASN'T PASSED YET AND WE DON'T NEED TO TRIP ON THAT PIECE.
AND, AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE WORDING HERE, SO I SHOULDN'T INTERRUPT HER THOUGHT, BUT, UM, WITH ANTICIPATION OF NEW ORDINANCE MAKING DARK SKY LIGHTING MANDATORY NOW GO AHEAD.
CASBY CHOSE TO, AS I RECALL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TO, TO USE, USE THE FUNDS FOR BUYING EQUIPMENT AND NOT INSTALLATION, BUT THEY, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY COULD CHOOSE TO CHANGE.
SO LIKE IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED TO HELP, UH, A BUSINESS MM-HMM.
NOW, NOW I THINK SHE SAID THEY WERE, THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY FOR INSTALLATION ALSO, BUT THE BUSINESSES SAID IT'S OKAY, WE HAVE OUR OWN MAINTENANCE PEOPLE.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
SO I THINK THEY WOULD COVER EVERYTHING IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THAT WAS THE CASE.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WASN'T OUR MANDATE, THAT IT HAD
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TO BE EQUIPMENT ONLY.BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES BEFORE.
UM, CENTER, UM, FULLY FUNDED IF COULD AND JUST DID THE BEST WE COULD, UH, GAVE WHATEVER FUNDS WERE BASED ON OTHER NEED, YOU KNOW, UM, TRYING TO MAKE THE FUNDS GO AS FAR AS WE COULD.
I HAD TO HAD, UM, NECESSARY TO SCALE FOR NEED BASED ON NEED.
I'M GONNA USE THAT SAME THING FOR THE FILM FESTIVAL.
THE FILM FESTIVAL AND UM, SY MUSIC AND SY AND YEAH, YOU COULD ALL OF THAT.
ALL OF THOSE FAIL PROGRAMS. NOW THE CHAMBER MUSIC, WE GAVE 'EM ALMOST 80%.
UM, WHEREAS THE OTHER GUYS WERE GIVING THEM 45%.
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE, WELL THEY RANKED HIGHER UHHUH THAN THE OTHERS.
SO THEY DESERVED A LITTLE MORE.
WELL I THINK DESERVE IS THE WRONG WORD.
IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, WELL, BUT IF YOU RANK HIGHER, THERE'S A REASON.
BUT HIGHER THAN WHAT, WHO ARE YOU, ARE YOU HIGHER THAN SETH AND SEDONA ART CENTER? THE CHAMBER IS UP A LITTLE HIGHER, SO THEY GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE YEAH.
CHAMBER MUSIC CUZ THEY'RE VERY RIGHT.
UM, THE THING ABOUT CHAMBER MUSIC IS THAT THEY HAVE A VERY ROBUST AND ALMOST, UM, THEY'VE BECOME AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY RANK HIGHER MM-HMM.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ABSOLUTE RANKING NUMBERS THERE, THAT THE TOTALS THAT, THAT STEPHANIE HAS PUT TOGETHER.
I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ONE POINT DIFFERENCE HERE? SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE RANKING HIGHER.
IT COULD BE A, A MATTER OF UH, YEAH.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S SO SMUDGE AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH YEAH.
THE FACT THAT OVER THE YEARS, UM, THESE PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN REALLY GOOD AT HOW TO ASK FOR THE MONEY, THE NAME.
I MEAN THEY'RE LIKE ONE POINT, OUR WHOLE SPREADSHEET, EVERYBODY'S OFF BY ONE POINT.
IT'S, UH, WE REALLY, REALLY HONESTLY KIND OF HAVE THE HIGHS AND THE LOWS.
AND, AND THEN 90% ARE IN THE MIDDLE.
ISN'T THAT THE WAY IT AUGUST IS, I DON'T KNOW, IS IT EIGHT 20? WELL, PARDO'S PRINCIPAL RIGHT.
ON THE HOMELESS LINES, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT THEY WROTE, UM, UH, THEY WROTE AN EXCELLENT PROPOSAL.
NOW THAT THEY AREN'T ALL EXCELLENT.
YOU MIGHT WANNA JUST SORT OF SAY THIS.
IT'S CODE BLUE, IT'S CODE BLUE SPECIFICALLY IN THAT CODE BLUE SPECIFIC.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T TROLL FOR PEOPLE.
UH, WHICH YOU MAY REMEMBER TO SAY, I'M NOT SURE YOU NEED TO PUT THAT IN YOUR SUMMARY, BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE TROLLING FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE 'EM TO SHELTER.
THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL TOO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT THEY USE TWO TO A ROOM OR, OR MORE AND THAT THEY, THEY REALLY VET WHO GOES WHO AND OH YEAH.
THAT WAS THE IMPRESSIVE, IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
CAN YOU BELIEVE THERE'S 200 HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THREE YEARS OR LONGER? YEAH.
THEY'VE MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS GRANTS THAT THEY'VE HAD A FAIRLY CONSISTENT POPULATION MM-HMM.
BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS EMPHASIZED SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS THAT THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN MM-HMM.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING.
BUT THE THING THAT IMPRESSED ME, UM, TOO IS THAT MOST OF WHOM ARE EMPLOYED.
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MM-HMM.WELL, I THOUGHT THE OBSERVATION OF THE MENTAL STATE OF PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH FOOD.
YOU'RE NOT OF PERMANENT HOUSING.
UNABLE OR FEARFUL OF PERMANENT HOUSING FOR FINANCIAL REASONS.
OR, UH, I HAVE A DOG OR I HAVE, UH, WHEN KURT WAS HERE YEAH.
KURT FELT HE, HE POINTED OUT THAT IT WAS A MENTAL HEALTH AND A LOT OF THEM DON'T WANT TO BE.
FOR EMOTIONAL REASONS OR, UH, EXCUSE ME, FOR FINANCIAL REASONS OR EMOTIONAL CHALLENGES, MENTAL HEALTH REASONS.
OH, I GUESS I COULD SAY I THINK YOU CAN.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
UM, WELL THERE AGAIN, I THINK WE COULD JUST SAY BEFORE WE FUND IT, BUT WE HAD TO GET SCALABLE HERE.
SO THEY GOT THE, BECAUSE THE MIDDLE, THE 50%.
THERE WERE JUST THE, THE FEW OUTLIERS, LIKE THE NEXT ONE.
BUT THE REASON WE'RE FULLY FUNDING THAT IS THAT, THAT IT, UM, THAT THEY WOULD, IF THEY DIDN'T GET FULLY FUNDED, THEY'D HAVE TO CUT FROM OTHER COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT MM-HMM.
IF I SAY THAT, THAT'LL TABLE EVERY DISCUSSION.
THEY ALSO MENTIONED THERE ARE OTHER VETERANS OUTREACH PROGRAMS MM-HMM.
UM, UH, VETERANS ASSISTANCE ASSISTANCE, VETERANS ASSISTANCE TOYS LAST, FOR EXAMPLE, AT, I THINK IT WAS LAST FALL SOMETIME, MAYBE IT WAS LAST, THEN THE NEXT BATCH.
NO, WE'RE, WE'RE SOLELY IN THE 50%.
TWO, TWO OF THE, AT THIS POINT, NOW THIRD, WE WERE DOING THE, THE PROGRAM.
AND I THINK THE PROGRAM WAS, WAS GOOD, BUT SIP WAS KIND OF LIKE REALLY KIND OF EMPTY, I THOUGHT.
BUT I SAW MORE MOHI MOHI IS THAT HIS NAME? MOSH MOHI.
I SAW HIM THERE AND, AND KIND OF THANKED HIM FOR HIS, UM, DARING, HIS DARING DUE TO, TO BRING IN SOMETHING SO DIFFERENT.
I THOUGHT MOSHI, WHAT, WHAT'S HE BRINGING IN? NO, HE, LAST FALL HE BROUGHT IN THE, THE BRUBECK BRUBECK BROTHERS JAZZ.
AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS QUITE A DEPARTURE FROM THE NORMAL KIND OF CLASSICAL STUFF.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY BRAVE.
DID THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE FOR THAT? NO, I DIDN'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T THINK THEY DID, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
THEY JUST, WHAT KIND? ARE THEY THE HARD JAZZ OR ARE THEY THE LIGHT? NO, IT WAS LIGHTER JAZZ FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
AT LEAST IT WAS, THAT SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IN RECOGNIZABLE STUFF MOSTLY.
OH, I DIDN'T SEE ANY ADS FOR IT.
AND I'M, WHAT IS KUDOS? I KEEP HEARING THAT.
IS IT, IT'S A, IT'S A SUPPLEMENT FREE BEEF, RED, RED ROCK NEWS, RED ROCK SUPPLEMENT, ALL ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT.
I THINK IT, IT LISTS ALL OF THE COMES OUT WEDNESDAYS.
ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES ARE HAPPENING.
MY PROBLEM WITH, WITH IT IS THAT SINCE IT ONLY COMES OUT ONCE A WEEK, AND I DON'T IMMEDIATELY READ IT.
SOMETIMES I'LL FIND THAT RIGHT AFTER, OH, THAT WAS TWO DAYS AGO OR THE DAY BEFORE.
WAIT, THIS CAME OUT ON WEDNESDAY.
THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENED ON TUESDAY, BUT YEAH, SO IT WAS IT YESTERDAY WHO SAID THOUGH, THAT THEY BOUGHT AN AD IN KUDOS THAT THEY, THEY WERE ALL REALLY EXPENSIVE TO, TO GET A, UH, ARTICLE AS WELL.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID THAT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS YEAH.
WHEN YOU GO AND ADD, IT'S GUARANTEED AN ARTICLE.
UM, IT WAS, UH, I THINK IT WAS EMERSON.
I'M NOT SURE THEY DID MENTION IT.
THAT YOU GET THAT IT'S A GUARANTEE.
SOMEBODY ELSE DID SAY THAT IT WAS AN EXPENSIVE PLACE TO BUY ADVERTISING BEER.
VINCENT WILSON FUND, ALL OF THEM ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE 50% GROUP.
IT WAS, IT'S NOT UNTIL WE GET TO HOPE HOUSE THAT WE VARIED OFF THE 50%.
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YEAH.I STILL HAVE TO HAVE, UM, THE THING IS I JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE FULLY FUND THESE PEOPLE IF WE COULD.
UM, BUT THEY ALL HAD SCALABLE PROGRAMS. UM, OH, IT WAS 50% OF THAT.
YEAH, IT'S, THAT WAS 1501 THAT WE VARIED OFF THE 50% MARK MM-HMM.
WELL, THAT WE DID THE BEST WE COULD, YOU KNOW.
WELL, IF I RECALL THE, THEY ALL HAD SCALABLE PROGRAMS. YEAH.
IF I RECALL, THE REACH OF THE ST.
VINCENT DEPAUL PROGRAM WASN'T THAT BROAD.
THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR PUBLIC PURPOSE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE MM-HMM.
AND ALL OF THESE, WE WOULD FULLY FUND IT.
WE, I MEAN, WE'D FULLY FUND THESE.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THESE.
UM, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT ARTS ACADEMY OF SEDONA? THAT'S GONNA BE A TRICKY ONE, ISN'T IT? ARTS ACADEMY? NO, YOU KNOW, I, UM, NO WAY DOWN THERE.
WE JUST COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND SAY EXACTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE PASSION WAS THERE.
THE, YEAH, THERE DEFINITELY, I MEAN, IF WE COULD DO IT, BUT THE, UH, THE, UH, IT, THE PROCESS OR THE, UM, THE PROCESS JUST WASN'T TIGHT ENOUGH.
UM, I'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT EXACTLY THE WORDS TO USE, BUT, UM, I MEAN, CAMILLA IS FANTASTIC.
I MEAN, I KNOW SHE, I KNOW SHE COULD PULL THIS OFF, BUT THEY WERE NOT ABLE, THEY NEED A, I THINK WHAT HA NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT PUT INTO, UH, THE PROGRAM SPECIFICS TO BETTER COMMUNICATE TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE, THE PROGRAM AND THE AUDIENCE.
ALL THOSE THINGS THAT THOSE WERE NOT CLEARLY DEFINED.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE PROGRAM, TARGET POPULATION AT FIRST, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICS, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEN I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT ANYONE WHO WANTED TO THIS HAPPEN COULD.
AND THEN WHEN WE SAID, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE, THEY WERE GONNA DO ALL THESE MAILINGS AND THAT, THAT ISN'T CHEAP, YOU KNOW, TO PUT OUT THOUSANDS OF MAILINGS AND WHERE, WHO IS HARMONY? HARMONY? I WAS GONNA GET, SEE IT WAS SPECIFICALLY THE MAILING, HER SPECIFICALLY FOR HER HARMONY.
UM, YEAH, I JUST, THE SAW SIX, THE, THE METRICS PROGRAM, IT WAS TOO VAGUE.
THE WHOLE PROGRAM SPECIFIC, THE WHOLE PROPOSAL WAS TOO VAGUE.
WAS HER NAME BARBARA'S THAT NAME? NO.
BEVERLY VINCI KIND OF, SHE WASN'T THE TYPICAL PODCAST KIND OF VOICE THAT I HEAR WHEN I HEAR PODCASTS.
YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING SHE, SHE, I'M, SHE HAD THE PASSION, CERTAINLY, BUT, UM, I JUST WONDERED IF SHE WOULD PULL IT OFF.
WELL, BUT AS, AS YOU SAY, CAMILLA IS, UH, NO, SHE'S A STAR.
AND I KNOW THAT IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE TO, I KNOW SHE WOULD DO IT, BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WOULD THEY DO? I MEAN, WE DIDN'T GET A CLEAR PICTURE ON WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN HERE.
AND I KNOW, I ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT, THAT WHATEVER SHE COMMITTED TO DO, UM, SHE WOULD DO, UH, WITH IN SPADES.
BUT WE JUST DON'T, WE COULDN'T GET A CLEAR PICTURE ON, ON WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO.
I ALSO WONDERED, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I ASKED THE QUESTION IF THEY WOULD BE ACTUALLY, UM, PRODUCING IN THEIR STUDIOS, AND, AND CAMILLA SAID YES, BUT THEN WE LEARNED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT STUDIO ANYMORE,
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THAT THEY MM-HMM.SO THAT WAS, WELL, THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT.
THEY COULD DO AT OTHER PLACES.
CAUSE THE PODCAST EQUIPMENT WAS PORTABLE, WHICH IS THE, THAT WAS THE OTHER THING YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
BUT WE, I HAD ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CAMILLA OFFLINE THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND THE PODCAST EQUIPMENT.
UH, BECAUSE IT WAS A CAPITAL EXPENSE, NUMBER ONE, BUT NUMBER TWO, PORT PORTABILITY.
IT WAS A PORTABLE CAPITAL EXPENSE.
THAT COULD BE AN AR THAT THE, UM, ARTS ACADEMY IS A REVENUE PRODUCING ORGANIZATION.
THERE'D BE NO, UH, THEY COULD USE THAT EQUIPMENT FOR OTHER THINGS AND THEN IT WOULD BELONG TO THE ACADEMY LONG TERM.
AND IF THE PROGRAM DIDN'T WORK, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE GIVEN THEM AN, YOU KNOW, AN ASSET YEAH.
UH, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD FAR OUT LIVE THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, CUZ THE PUSHBACK IS, OKAY, WELL YOU'RE, YOU'RE FUNDING OTHER CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS THE FOOD BANK.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GETTING THE FOOD BANK, UM, PHYSICAL ASSETS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL, EVEN CAPITAL COVERING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR THEM.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS THEY GIVE OUT THE FOOD.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ESSENTIAL PARTS OF THEIR PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE ONLY PROGRAM THEY HAVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR LONG TERM, THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR YEARS AND WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO BE RUNNING FOR YEARS.
SO, UH, THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT OUTLASTING THE ASSET IS PRETTY GOOD.
UM, AND THAT'S, YOU SAID THAT'S ALL THEY REALLY CAN USE IT FOR? I DID.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, I MEAN, THEY'RE, IT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT, THAT ONE PARTICULAR SERVICE, THE EXECUTION OF THEIR MISSION, I THINK IS THE WORD SPECIFIC.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, THE PODCAST EQUIPMENT WOULD BE EXECUTING THEIR MISSION AS WELL, BUT IT'S GOT THESE OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW COLORATIONS TO IT.
WE JUST COULDN'T GET A CLEAR PICTURE ON WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, UM, WITH THE, UH, THE WELLNESS PODCAST.
SO THEY JUST NEED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE SUGGEST THAT THE ORGANIZATION SPEND SOME MORE TIME TIGHTENING THAT UP AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR.
UM, WHERE ARE WE AT HERE? UH, WE'RE DOWN AT THE ARTS ACADEMY.
I MEAN, THE REST OF 'EM, I THINK I CAN PRETTY MUCH GO ON MY OWN IN THE SALES SPORT PROJECT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND VET THE NUMBERS ON THAT IF WE COULD AS A GROUP.
WHAT I HAD, UM, COME UP WITH, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WITH JODY, WAS THE NUMBER OF INSTRUCTORS SHE NEEDED WAS HERSELF ON DECK PLUS TWO TO HANDLE 10 KIDS AT A SHOP.
AND LET'S START FIRST, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF LESSONS IT WOULD TAKE TO GET EACH KID UP TO SPEED SO THEY WOULDN'T DROWN OR COULD GET THEMSELVES TO THE SIDE OF THE POOL OR WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE, WAS FOUR LESSONS.
EACH LESSON WAS A HALF AN HOUR.
I'VE WRITTEN DOWN EIGHT LESSONS.
SO EIGHT LESSONS AND A HALF AN HOUR.
SO THE POOL TIME WOULD BE FOUR HOURS PER FOUR HOURS.
THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE FOUR.
AND THEN THERE'S, UM, THE POOL COST IS $20 AN HOUR, SO THAT ADDS IT TO 80, $80 AN HOUR FOR THE, AND I HAD THE INSTRUCTORS AT, I DID THREE INSTRUCTORS AT $50 AN HOUR.
UM, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CUT THAT BACK TO 40.
BUT ANYWAY, THEN I, THEN THOSE, SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE TOTAL FOR EACH KID IS, UM, 80 PLUS 300.
SO WE GOTTA GO UP TO 600 ON THAT.
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A KID TO GET THEM TO WHERE THEY COULD SAVE THEIR OWN LIFE IF THEY GOT DUMPED IN SOME WATER.SO WE WERE AT ALREADY AT $80 PER KID WITHOUT THE INSTRUCTIONS, BUT THEY'RE 10 KIDS.
SO $600 FOR THE INSTRUCTORS, THAT'S JODY AND TWO, THAT'S JODY ON DECK AND TWO INSTRUCTORS IS $600 AT $50 AN HOUR, RIGHT? EIGHT.
THIS IS NO EXCUSE CUZ I KEEP FIDDLING WITH IT.
SO $600 FOR THE INSTRUCTORS, $80 FOR THE POOL FOR 10 KIDS.
SHE'S GOT 54 KIDS THAT SHE COULD BE, UM, THAT SHE'S GOT SIGNED, THAT SHE'S GOT RIGHT NOW ON HER LIST THAT COULD USE THIS PARTICULAR THING.
SO I HAVE 36, $3,672 FOR THE LESSONS.
THEN SHE'S GONNA NEED, UM, GOGGLES FOR THESE KIDS, WHICH IS A ONE TIME EXPENSE.
SHE, SHE SAID SHE HAD GOGGLES.
WELL, NO, SHE SAID SHE COULD COBBLE TOGETHER.
SO IF WE WERE TO BUY GOGGLES FOR 10 KIDS, THAT'S $150.
CAUSE I LOOKED UP ON AMAZON AND THEY'RE ABOUT $15 A PIECE.
SO, AND THEN THERE, THEN INSURANCE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INSURANCE IS OR WHETHER THEY EVEN NEED INSURANCE, AND I WANTED TO CALL HER ON THAT, BUT I PUT IN 2000 FOR INSURANCE.
UM, CHRISTINE, WHAT'S THE NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SALEFISH? IT'S THE 58 22.
OH, THEY'RE ALL YOU MEAN THE ORIGINAL ASK? YEAH.
NO, NO, NOT JUST THEIR, THEIR, THEY WERE NUMBERED IN THE ORDER THEY CAME IN.
SO WHEN FIRST, OH, I SORTED IT THERE.
IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS MY FILLING WITH THE SPREADSHEET.
SO BASICALLY IF THEY HAD $2,000 FOR INSURANCE, IT'D BE 58, 22.
UM, BUT WITH $5,000, I MEAN, THEY COULD PROBABLY MAKE IT WORK.
MAYBE THEY DO DO THEIR KIDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN HER EXPENSE SHEET.
THE PROGRAM AND BUDGET WORKSHEET, WE CANNOT EVEN GO BACK.
THAT'S, THAT'S A TOTALLY, NO, SHE HAD ZERO FOR INSURANCE.
SO IF WE GAVE HER $5,000, I MEAN, SHE'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT LEFT OVER FOR, TO DO MORE KIDS.
I, YOU KNOW, I'D, I'D LIKE TO GIVE GARDENS A LITTLE MORE.
WELL, IF WE TOOK A THOUSAND AWAY FROM SAILFISH AND GAVE IT TO GARDENS MM-HMM.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT EXTRA MONEY, OKAY.
WE DON'T, AND WE WOULD, BECAUSE THEN WE'D HAVE, UM, YEAH.
IF WE, IF SHE HAD NOTHING FOR INSURANCE, THEN SHE'S GOT MORE MONEY THAN SHE NEEDS TO DO.
SO LET'S TAKE A THOUSAND FROM GARDEN, FROM A SALE, SALE, SALE IN AND PUT IT TO, UH, GARDENS DONE.
SO I WILL CALL JODY AND UM, JUST ENSURE THAT THEY AGREE THAT THEY CAN DO THE 54
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KIDS FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.AND I'LL GO OVER THE NUMBERS WITH HER.
AND IF FOR SOME REASON I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA LOOK YOU OFF ON THAT, I THINK SHE'LL WORK WITH IT BASED ON MM-HMM.
SO WE'LL REVISE THAT WITH HER.
WELL IT SEEMS LIKE THE PROCESS THAT THEY, THEY EVEN WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LEARNING WHAT THEY NEEDED TO ASK FOR MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S EVEN SOME SKILLS BUILDING FOR THEM IN TERMS OF LEARNING WHAT THEY NEED.
I HAVE COMPLETE CON AND I'LL TELL HER, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS MM-HMM.
WELL, I I THINK THE PROGRAM'S VALID, BUT MY POINT IS, YOU WERE HELPING HER LEARN HOW TO EVALUATE COSTS OF HER PROGRAM EVEN WHILE SHE WAS SITTING IN THE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN MANY OTHER CASES.
I MEAN WE'VE GONE, WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BECOME SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF IT.
SO THAT'S PART OF, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE ADVERTISE IN OUR WORKSHOP.
AND I THINK PART OF, UM, WHAT WE, PART OF OUR MANDATE YES.
TO HELP THESE NONPROFITS GET THE MONEY.
THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO THE CITY.
WE DIDN'T, WE NOT HEAR FROM THIS YEAR.
WE NORMALLY HAVE GOTTEN BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS.
UM, THE BENEFACTORS OF RED ROCK STATE FARM, THEY DIDN'T APPLY.
THEY GOT THEY THEY HAVE WHAT THEY GOT.
THEY'RE USUAL SUSPECTS AND TOYS ARE TAUGHT SPECIFICALLY EITHER, YOU KNOW.
THEY USED TO HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN WELL THAT WAS THE MARINE CORPS.
BUT THE TOYS WERE TAUGHT UNDER D C SO THEY CAME.
AND I THINK THE REASON THEY DID WELL, THEY CHOSE TO, IT WAS EITHER THAT OR TOYS FOR TOS.
CAUSE THEY CAN'T APPLY FOR TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. RIGHT.
SO THEY UM, ALRIGHT GUYS, GOOD DEAL.
SO ARE WE, DO, ARE WE OUT TO LUNCH ON ANY, UM, ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR CONCERNS? DID YOU GET THE VERBIAGE FOR THE WINE FEST? UM, YEAH.
WHAT DID I SAY FOR BLINDEST HERE? NO, I DON'T THINK WE DID.
SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA SAY FOR WINE FEST TOO? TOUGHIE ALSO, UM, I KNOW WE CAN DO FOR 1501.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA SAY ABOUT THE WINE FEST HERE? START WITH A POSITIVE.
THEY'RE ON THEIR 14TH, THEIR 15TH YEAR.
UM, THEY, THEY'RE COMMUNITY BUILDING.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MM-HMM.
UH, I DON'T THINK THEY JUST MEANT THE BASIC NEEDS OF THE GOALS AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, DOES, IS THEIR FESTIVAL, ANY LAB, WHAT MAKES THEIR FESTIVAL DIFFERENT THAN FILM FESTIVAL OR THE, UM, FILM FESTIVAL APPLIES TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, WHERE THE WHITE FESTIVAL IS MORE OF A LIMITED AUDIENCE WHERE IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE CHILDREN AND IT RIGHT.
IT HAS A MORE SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC.
THE ART, THE FILM FESTIVAL IS, YOU CAN CERTAINLY SAY IT'S ARTS RELATED.
YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THE WINE FESTIVAL WOULD FIT THE ARTS INCIDENTALLY, THE ART OF WINE, ART,
YOU MIGHT GET SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT.
LOW NUMBER ON THAT BECAUSE OKAY.
I MEAN WE ARE BECOMING A WINE CENTER, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.
BUT YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC COMMUNITY, ECONOMIC STIMULATION, STIMULATION'S NOT THE A CRITERION.
AND 80%, THEY WERE SAYING THAT 80% OF THEIR UM MM-HMM.
AND SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS A PRETTY BUSY TIME ANYWAY IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, ECONOMIC STIMULATION IS NOT A CRITERION.
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THE NUMBERS RIGHT.MINE ARE ALSO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
WELL, I WAS GONNA, I HAVE THEM COMMUNITY IMPACT HIGH.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIND THEIR GRANT.
SEDONA FAIR TO SEE WHAT THEY SAID SPECIFICALLY.
NO, BUT THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE.
WELL THEY WERE, THEY WERE GUESSING AT AN OVERALL POPULATION BASED ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO MATCH FROM 2019.
AND THEN THEY TOOK 20% OF THAT.
I CHECKED THEIR NUMBERS JUST CUZ I WONDERED HOW THAT WORKED.
DIDN'T I I AGREED WITH WHAT THEY SAID.
SED DONUTS BECAUSE THEY HAD THOUSANDS.
APPARENTLY AT THIS FESTIVAL OVER SEVEN DAYS, IF EVERYBODY COMES, IT STILL COMES OUT TO A LARGE NUMBER OF IT IS A LARGE RESIDENTS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE COULD SAY A SMALL NUMBERS, PERCENTAGE WISE.
BUT ABSOLUTE NUMBERS ARE STILL PRETTY HIGH.
SO IF WE WERE TO GET THAT MORE MONEY, WHERE WOULD WE TAKE IT FROM? WHERE WOULD WE TAKE IT? SO SHE ALSO STRESSED THAT SHE WOULD THE GRANT MONEY MOVE FORWARD TO BE SUCCESSFUL? SAY THAT AGAIN? THAT'S SINCE WE MOVED IT.
THAT'S WHY SHE ALSO STRESSED THAT SHE WASN'T DEPENDENT ON THE GRANT MONEY TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE SUCCESSFUL.
IT'S HARD TO SEE MOVE FORWARD REGARDLESS.
HIGHLY SCALED BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WOULD FIND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOU WANT
BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW THEM SUPPORT
AND, UH, BUT WE WANT TO SHOW, SHOW SUPPORT.
WHERE ELSE AM I? WEAK? YOU GOT HUMMINGBIRD.
UM, I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID HUMMINGBIRD, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE MARKET AND THE PERCEPTION WAS THE MARKET WAS A FOR-PROFIT VENTURE.
SO MAYBE WRITING AS DESCRIPTOR.
CUZ THE WORD MARKET MEANS SOMETHING.
WE'RE NOT FUNDING A PROFIT VENTURE FOR THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY.
THEY HAD THE MARKET MEANS SOMETHING ELSE.
WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE? IT'S MORE LIKE, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A, UM, EDUCATIONAL, MORE LIKE A, UM, A FAIR YEAH.
YOU KNOW, A FAIR, I GUESS ARTS, DEMONSTRATION.
EDUCATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WAY THE ART FESTIVAL CHARGES ADMISSION TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT THE BOOTHS.
HAS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO IT.
UM, BIRDING IS, BIRDING IS AN IMPORTANT ACTIVITY HERE TOO.
I, SO I THINK WE CAN JUSTIFY THAT.
LIKE I THOUGHT THE ONE THING ABOUT THE STREET HEAT MINISTRIES THAT WAS INTERESTING WAS WHEN WE ASKED HIM HOW HE CAME UP WITH 240 PACKS, HE SAID WE BACKED INTO IT BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD, THE BUDGET
WHAT WAS THAT? NO, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT HE DID IT BY THE CENSUS.
I, I WENT ONTO THE US CENSUS BUREAU TO SEE HOW MANY THEORETICAL MINORS ARE, ARE IN SEDONA AT THE POVERTY LEVEL.
AND IT SAID, UM, WE HAD 177 MM-HMM.
BUT HE DID SAY HE STARTED WITH A BUDGET AND SAID, THIS IS HOW MANY PACKS I CAN AFFORD.
IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE KIND OF CLOSE TO KIND OF CLOSE.
WELL THEN HE'S IN THE BALLPARK.
HE'S IN THE BALLPARK OF WHAT, WHAT IT IS.
AND MAYBE I COULD PUT THAT IN THERE TOO.
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A HUNDRED AND SEVEN SEVENTY SEVEN ACCORDING TO THE US CENSUS DATA, WHICH IS PROBABLY LATER THE LAST, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT WAS SMART.BUT THAT IS FOR, BUT THE CENSUS DATA WOULD BE FOR THE CITY OF WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE BUT DON'T LIVE HERE? RIGHT.
THIS IS ONLY RESIDENTS OF SEDONA YEAH.
AT THE, THE POVERTY LEVEL THAT ARE MINORS.
SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT INCLUDES FOUR YEAR OLDS.
BUT REMEMBER, HIS PACKS HAVE CRAYONS, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, THAT INCLUDES HIGH SCHOOL KIDS THAT REALLY DON'T WANT CRAYONS.
AND IT INCLUDES KIDS THAT ARE TOO YOUNG TO BE IN SCHOOL.
BUT IT ALSO THAT, THAT THAT NUMBER OF 1 77 DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE BUT DON'T LIVE HERE.
SO IT KIND OF, SO IT ALL KIND OF ALL THEY'RE IN THE BALLPARK.
SO HE IS IN THE BALLPARK WITH, UH, HE'S IN THE BALLPARK WITH THE 240 PACKS.
BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING HIM MONEY FOR 240 PACKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, OR HAVING TO CUT HIM BACK CONSIDERABLY.
BUT THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SCHOOL SUPPLY? OH YEAH.
UM, WELL, WHEN PATTY COMES BACK, SHE CALLS, OH, HERE SHE, OH, THERE YOU GO.
YOU'RE ON HER, YOU'RE ON HER BLIND SIDE.
SHE, SHE'S THE STREET YOU CALLED PEOPLE, RIGHT? OH YEAH.
WHAT DID YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT PACKS? YEAH.
ARE ARE THERE AVAILABILITY OF SCHOOL PACKS ELSEWHERE? OH YES.
OLD TOWN MISSION, FOR EXAMPLE, SAID THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT STREET HEAT COMING.
AND STREET HEAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE 'EM AWAY AT THE WINDOW.
AND, AND OLD TOWN MISSION, THOSE SAME TWO WOMEN THAT WERE HERE, I TALKED TO BOTH OF 'EM ON THE PHONE.
THEY SAID THAT THEIR INTENTION IS, IS THAT, UM, THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP THEIR CARS FULL OF BACKPACKS AND AFTER STREET HEAT IS GONE, THEY'RE GONNA GO DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOLS AND SAY, HOW MANY DO YOU WANT? SCHOOLS? WHO, WHO ELSE NEEDS 'EM? SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE BACKED UP BY OLD TOWN MISSION.
ISN'T THAT AMAZING? YEAH, YEAH.
THEY JUST NEED TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD GET US OUT OF THE MM-HMM.
SO THAT IF THEY HAD A UNIQUE SERVICE, THEN MM-HMM.
STEPS TO RECOVER IS IN COTTONWOOD.
I'M JUST GONNA SEND MYSELF BACK HERE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THEM AND LIVE WITH THEM, YOU'LL END UP OUT IN COTTONWOOD, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SERVICE LIKE THAT HERE.
SO THEY'D STILL, THEY'D STILL FIT MM-HMM.
WHEN YOU GET THIS ALL WRITTEN, DO YOU MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO US? YEAH, I, YEAH.
I THINK LAST YEAR I GOT MYSELF BEHIND THE A BALL AND ENDED UP HAVING, BEFORE I SENT, NO, THIS WAS PRETTY GOOD WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR.
OH, IS THAT WHAT YOU, I JUST PRINTED IT OFF FROM THE UH, OH, THE PACKAGE THAT TERESA SENT.
I, THAT WAS TRUE, BUT I USUALLY, AND MY ATTENTION IS TO GET IT TO YOU GUYS BEFORE I SEND THAT'D BE GREAT.
AND I ENDED UP, I THINK I, BUT I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
IT WAS AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE.
I ENDED UP SENDING IT OUT AND I SAID, I'VE GOTTA HAVE, IF YOU, IF YOU GOT ANY EDITS, YOU NEED TO TURN THIS AROUND.
UM, AND THEN I HAD TO GET IT TO THE CITY, BUT THIS YEAR I'LL GET AHEAD OF IT MORE BETTER, UM, TO LET YOU GUYS LOOK AT IT FIRST AND THEN SEND IT, THEN SEND IT OUT.
UH, BUT I KNOW I NEED TO, I WANT TO GET IT TO KAREN AND TERESA AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN GET IT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE NOT UNDER THE DO YOU SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE YOUR MEETING? OR YOU JUST PRESENT IT? THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE WE, WE WANT THE BLOW BACK TO HAPPEN BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET INTO COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
WHICH OTHERWISE IT GETS TO BE, UM, GETS TO
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BE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.UM, AGAIN, WE END UP DEBATING THIS STUFF THAT IS, UM, SO WHAT THEY SEE IS THIS WITHOUT ALL THE COLUMNS THAT WE USED TO GRADE MM-HMM.
SO THAT MIGHT CONTRIBUTE TO THEM NOT UNDERSTANDING.
WELL ACTUALLY WHAT THEY SEE IS THE SPREADSHEET THAT STEPHANIE'S GONNA MAKE.
SO THEY SEE THE REQUESTED AMOUNT, THE AWARDED AMOUNT.
THEY SEE THE, THE, A LITTLE SYNOPSIS OF WHAT THEIR GRANT WAS ABOUT.
AND THEN THEY SEE STEPHANIE'S COMMENTS ABOUT WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE.
SO THEY HAVE A 30 PRETTY THOROUGH, CONCISE UNDERSTANDING.
AND I DO GO OVER THE FACT THAT THE REASON THIS ORGANIZATION MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED AS HIGH BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO YAA OR WHATEVER MM-HMM.
BUT NO, THEY DO NOT, MANY OF THEM, THEY DO NOT SEE THE ACTUAL MECHANICS.
THE, AND ONLY, THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY DON'T IS THAT ON SEVERAL, UH, SEVERAL TIMES WE'VE OFFERED TO GO OVER THAT AND THEY'RE JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTEREST.
THEY'RE GETTING THAT MUCH INTO THE WEEDS.
YOU ALL DONE A GOOD JOB ALL THIS TIME.
YOU KNOW, YOUR JUDGMENT IS GOOD.
SO YOU DON'T THINK WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THEY'RE FIVE OR WHATEVER METRICS THAT WE LOOK AT? OH, WE TELL 'EM THAT.
BUT THEY DON'T WANNA KNOW ANY MORE THAN THAT.
AND TRADITIONALLY THEY HAVE IT.
BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I SAID TO, UH, MAKE THEM AWARE OF JUST THE PROCESS.
NOT HOW WE GRADED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE 29 PEOPLE.
JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED.
WELL, WE'VE OFFERED MANY TIMES TO GO OVER THAT.
I MEAN, EVERY YEAR WE OFFER, OKAY, WELL LET'S, EVERY YEAR WE ASK AND THEY SAY EVERY YEAR.
IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THEY, THAT'S BEEN, WELL, LET'S CHANGE THAT THIS YEAR.
SO GIVE ME THE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES, GIVE YOU WORDS FOR EM.
AND I'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THE DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC PURPOSE PRIORITY.
THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR SCORING SHEET.
IT'S YOUR, I HAVE, I HAVE ONE FROM 2021.
I LOOKED ALL OVER OR JUST SOMEHOW NOT SURVIVE OUR PORTAL.
YEAH, I, I LOOKED FOR IT, BELIEVE ME CUZ I WANTED TO PRINT IT OFF FOR YOU AND SOMEHOW IT'S NOT THERE UNLESS IT'S, THAT'S WHAT I PRINT IN THIS MORNING.
BUT THEN WHEN WE GOT IN THIS MORNING, UM, YOU SAID YOU HAD THE REVISED ONE? WELL NO, THIS, WHAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR IS THE BLANK SCORING SHEET.
IS THIS ONE THAT YOU DID, THE ONE THAT YOU DID THAT YOU HAD FOR US? THAT WAS THE ONE I PRINT YESTERDAY.
YOU KNOW CAUSE YOU HAD THIS BLANK.
I LOOKED FORWARD TO DROPPING IN THIS FOLDER.
IT MIGHT BE IN A PREVIOUS FOLDER, BUT NO GET ALL BEFORE SHE COMING BACK.
WHAT I'LL DO IS SCAN A COPY OF THIS AND BLANK IT OUT.
HAVE OVER NEXT ON THE PORTAL PRINT ONE, PRINT CLEAN ONE, UH, GEORGE THE BLANK ONE, YOU KNOW, OFF, OFF THE PORTAL.
AND THEN THE TITLE WAS RUN ON THEN BY THE WAY, IT'S IN FISCAL YEAR 22 AT THE TOP OF THAT SCREEN.
I NOTICE DIDN'T STOP ME FROM DOING IT.
DIDN'T, I'M STILL, I'M STILL NOT SAYING IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THIS A PUBLICATION OR SOMETHING.
OH IT DOES FOR THE PURPOSES OF COUNCIL.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I DIDN'T FIND IT IS CUZ IT WAS MISLABELED.
WE ALSO HAD SOMEBODY REARRANGE OUR WEBPAGE OR OUR WEB FOLDERS THIS LAST YEAR.
SO I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THINGS.
I NOTICE THAT WHEN YOU YEAH, THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T, I THOUGHT THAT WAS NOT ME THE SAME AS THIS, BUT I STILL HAD DIFFERENT STUFF IN IT.
YEAH, NO, I'M STILL NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT YOUR PHONE ON SILENT, BUT MY WATCH GOES OFF.
TURNED DOWN THE VOLUME
YOU GOTTA JUST DO IT THROUGH YOUR PHONE.
WELL, I THINK WE'VE GOT, I THINK WE'VE GOT THIS NAIL DOWN PRETTY WELL.
AND SO DID YOU GET US UNTIL LUNCH? YEAH.
YOU WANT MORE VERBIAGE? WE'RE ALL WAITING FOR LUNCH.
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BASED ON THE, THE GRANT APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR, SO IF WE WERE GOING TO, CUZ THIS LAST YEAR WE ADDED SOME NEW VERBIAGE TO THE GRANT APPLICATION.ONE WAS GRANT PROJECTS HAD TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE GRANT CYCLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, IF YOU FOR SOME REASON CANNOT COMPLETE THE PROJECT THAT IS OUTLINING YOUR PROPOSAL, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE CITY.
AND THOSE WERE IN RESPONSE TO, UM, STEPS TO RECOVERY.
UM, AND THEN THE, UM, FLEX STEP HOSPITAL, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THEIR PROJECT, IT WENT WAY BEYOND THE SCOPE OF OUR GRANT CYCLE.
AND WHEN I ORIGINALLY SPOKE WITH THEM, THEY FELT LIKE THEY COULD DO THAT AND THEY, THEY HAD SOME COMPLICATIONS WITH LIKE LICENSING IN LAB LICENSING.
THINGS THAT WERE OUT OF THEIR CONTROL, OUTTA THEIR CONTROL.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE LANGUAGE CAME FROM.
SO BASED ON WHAT YOU ALL OBSERVED ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE RECEIVED, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD ADD TO CLARIFY THINGS? WELL, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO, AND THAT, THAT CAME UP WAS THE, UH, PARAGRAPH THAT TALKS ABOUT THEIR FINANCIALS IS I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BULLET POINT A LIST OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION WE NEED RATHER THAN BEARING IT INTO A NARRATIVE.
UH, AND THAT WAY WE WILL, UM MM-HMM.
WHICH WAS SO ODD BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PLACES THAT FAILED TO SEND IT.
BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY JUST, THEY DO A CHECK MARK AND SOMETIMES THEY, THE GRANT WRITER EACH YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING IS THE, WE COULD ALSO BROADEN THE DEFINITION OF UM, LIKE THIS YEAR WE HAD SAILFISH COORDINATE WITH PARKS AND REC MM-HMM.
AND NOT JUST LIKE SCHOOL PROGRAMS, BUT IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON USING ANY KIND OF YES.
ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT YOU NEED TO PARTNER WITH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE LIBRARY.
GET A LETTER OF COLLABORATION.
TRACY, YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU THE BLANKS FOR ME, JAKE? YES.
OR JUST READ, NAME IT AND DROP IT IN THE FOLDER.
I HAVE, IT'S ON, IT'S IN THE TITLE IT.
AREN'T WE FISCAL YEAR 24? I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE YEAH.
AND IT'S SYSTEM YOU'VE BEEN USING DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE ABOUT, I DUNNO.
MAYBE JUST WE, WELL, YOU KNOW, MOST EVERYBODY ATTEND THE WORKSHOP.
THERE WASN'T ANYBODY THAT, THAT DIDN'T ATTEND THE SEND IN A REQUEST, A POORLY DONE REQUEST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ATTEND THE WORKSHOP LIKE THAT.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN GOOD, REALLY GOOD WORKSHOP ATTENDANCE NOW.
UM, YOU DON'T MAKE THAT MANDATORY.
I DON'T THINK WE, WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT MANDATORY AND THEN WE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WHY ACF DOES.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'VE GOT, THEY'RE A PRIVATE FOUNDATION.
NO, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'VE GOT, UM, SO MANY D UM, CONTINUING MM-HMM.
I, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE A WASTE OF TIME FOR SOME OF THEM TO WELL AND SOME OF THEM DON'T.
AND, UM, A LOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK IT OVER AND THEY GO, WELL THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS.
THIS PROCESS, THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE, UH, FOR 12 YEARS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
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HERE SINCE DAY ONE, SO YEAH.WELL ANYWAY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO IT.
WELL THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE WORKSHOP IS THAT ORGANIZATION, THE WORKSHOP HAPPENS THE SECOND WEEK IN MARCH AND ORGANIZATIONS CAN CONTINUE TO REQUEST GRANT APPLICATIONS UP THROUGH WHEN THE PORTAL CLOSES.
SO THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT MM-HMM.
UM, THEN, THEN THAT'S PART OF IT.
SO MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE WELL NO, CUZ IF WE, IF WE ZOOM SOMETHING, THEN PEOPLE WILL STOP COMING TO THE WORKSHOP AND THEN NOT ZOOM.
BUT EVEN IF WE VIDEOED IT, CUZ THERE'S ALWAYS NEW QUESTIONS THAT COME UP EVERY YEAR.
AND, AND SEE PART OF THE, THE THING WITH THE WORKSHOP IS IF THEY HAVE A PROGRAM, THEY SAY, WOULD THIS WORK? RIGHT.
WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DISCUSS IT MM-HMM.
AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD, BUT MM-HMM.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK IT GIVES THEM A COMFORT LEVEL TO SEE US IN PERSON AND THAT WE'RE NOT OWNERS AND WE'RE NOT GONNA EAT 'EM.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US YOUR QUESTIONS.
WE'D RATHER HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE THAN TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, FIX IT ONCE WE GET IT.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR, UM, WHAT YOU GIVE THEM.
AND UNDER GENERAL CRITERIA FOR GRANT FUNDING, I'M, I'M NOT SEEING WHERE IT SAYS CAPITAL EQUIPMENT CANNOT BE.
SO SOMETHING ABOUT CAPITAL EQUIPMENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO SAY, YOU KNOW.
I'M TRYING TO FIND WHERE IT SAYS WE CAN'T PAY FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES.
SO UNDER INELIGIBLE PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, YOU KNOW, FUND TRAVEL OR TRAINING RIGHT.
FOR ORGANIZATION OFFICERS, MEMBERS OR VOLUNTEERS.
THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE ABOUT CAPITAL EQUIPMENT.
WELL, I THINK WE ARE, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING IN THERE MAYBE WITH THE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO WITH A DISTINCTION, BUT I THINK JUST THE STATEMENT ON CAPITAL, CAPITAL EXPENSES.
BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S IN THERE OR NOT, THEY ALL, IT ALWAYS GETS TURNED DOWN.
IT SAYS WE DO NOT FUND TRAVEL OR TRAINING FOR, WELL THEY'RE GOING STREET HEATS, UH, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF $3,000 OR SOMETHING THAT THEY ASKED FOR TRAVEL FOR THEIR VOLUNTEERS.
WELL HERE'S, HERE'S THE DISTINCTION.
DISTINCT DISTINCTION IS, AND THIS, IF YOU THINK BACK TO, UM, YAVAPAI, BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS.
THEY KEPT INCLUDING PIECES OF STAFF, GENERAL STAFF DEVELOPMENT YEAH.
THAT THEY WANTED IN THEIR GRANT WORKSHOP.
SO TRAVEL SPECIFIC TO YOUR PROJECT TRAINING SPECIFIC TO YOUR PROJECT CAN BE FUNDED.
BUT GENERAL STAFF DEVELOPMENT AND GENERAL TRAINING.
I, I, WELL, AND, AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE EXPENDITURES.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE PURCHASING, LIKE WITH, UM, THE ARTS, THE ARTS CENTER, ART CENTER, SEDONA, THEY WANTED TO BUY THE PODCAST EQUIPMENT.
IF THAT WAS LIKE A ONE TIME USE YEAH.
BECAUSE WE DO FUND CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE FOOD BANK.
BUT THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIRECTED TO, TO THAT, THAT ONE MISSION THAT THEY DO.
AND SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A DELINEATION THERE.
AND THE SAME THING WITH, THERE'S THE SAME THING WITH TRAVELER TRAINING.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS TRAVEL AND TRAINING.
WELL, TRAVELER TRAIN AND WHERE THAT CAME UP WAS, UM, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, SEDONA, UM, CHAMBER MUSIC HAD REQUESTED, UH, MONEY TO TRAIN THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN, UM, FUNDRAISING OR NOT FUNDRAISING, BUT PROPER BOARD PROCEDURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT WAS, IT WAS BOARD DEVELOPMENT.
BOARD OF DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU TRAIN 'EM AND THEN THEY GO, YOU KNOW, THEY LEAVE.
I MEAN IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT MM-HMM.
AND UH, THE TRAVEL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA GO DOWN TO PHOENIX AND GO TO THIS SEMINAR AND YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL COST THAT'S GONNA BE X AND NO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT DOESN'T QUALIFY.
WHEREAS AS TERESA SAID, DELIVERY OF THE PROGRAM SUCH IN THE CASE OF STREET HEAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING FROM LAS VEGAS TO DO THIS GIG.
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THIS IS STREET HEATS.
I I WENT TO THEM CUZ I KNOW THEY INCLUDED YOUR WHOLE THING AND THEY HIGHLIGHTED STUFF AND, AND EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS RIGHT HERE INELIGIBLE AND THEY HIGHLIGHTED IT IN YELLOW AND THEN RED AND IT SAYS RIGHT HERE FROM TRAVEL
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OR TRAINING.AND, BUT THEY WENT AHEAD AND THEY PUT THEIR TRAVEL IN.
THERE'S SEVERAL, IT WAS OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS I REMEMBER.
WAY OVER THAN, THAN IT'S, I'M THINKING THAT WE'VE FUNDED THEM LESS THAN THEIR TOTAL AVERAGE.
AND I WAS THINKING WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WERE HERE, IT'S LIKE, WELL AREN'T YOU COMING ANYWAY? NO.
TRAVEL AND TRAINING IS ZERO ON THEIR SHEET.
SO THEY'VE PAID, THEY'VE GOT INSURANCE CONSULTANT AND PROFESSIONAL FEES, SUPPLIES.
WELL, IT'S NOBODY'S MARKETING PRINTING.
NO, I THINK SO THIS IS STREET HEAT.
HE MUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE TYPICALLY INCLUDES IT ANOTHER GRANT REQUEST, BUT NOT, HE DIDN'T INCLUDE SO HUNDRED COST PLUS TRAVEL.
WHY THIS, THIS, UH, SHEET IS IS THE ONE THE CITY PROVIDES.
SO THEY HAVE TRAVEL AND TRAINING AND THEN WAY AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS ADMINISTRATION COST PLUS TRAVEL.
SO ABOUT THE, WELL, AND AND IF YOU'VE SPENT ANY TIME TALKING TO GEORGE, HE'S CONFUSED.
I MEAN HE'S ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH WELL OUR OWN SHEETS PROBABLY NOT HELPING.
AND AND HE DID SAY THAT HE HAD SO MUCH BUDGETED FOR TRAVEL BECAUSE HE'S SITTING RIGHT THERE.
ADMINISTRATION COST PLUS TRAVEL IS $1,800.
BUT WHY DO WE HAVE TRAVEL IN TWO PLACES? NO, HE WROTE THAT IN.
JUST I THINK THE FORM SAYS OTHER.
SO THE FORM STOPS AT OTHER I THINK SO.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ANOTHER FORM IF YOU WANT TO SEE.
CAUSE WHO ELSE HAVE I GOT? HERE'S MANZANITA.
SEE NOW HE, YEAH, HE AGAIN TYPED IT IN.
WELL MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, STAKED OUT A LITTLE FURTHER.
WELL I THINK WE STATED WELL HE IS NOT BEING FUNDED HIS FULL AMOUNT ANYWAY.
IN FACT, I THINK HE'S BEEN CUTTING DOWN.
SO WE NEED TO CLARIFY TRAVEL AND TRAINING CUZ YOU SAY NO IN ONE SPOT AND THEN IT'S IT'S A, IT'S AN ITEM ITEM PROGRAM ON THE PROGRAM SHEET.
WELL MAYBE WE JUST TAKE IT OFF THE PROGRAM SHEET OR SINGLE PLACES USE THAT IS LIKE THE, THE PLACES THAT BRING IN PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR TRAVEL EXTENSIONS.
THAT'S WHERE THAT'S PROGRAM SPECIFIC.
SO A PROGRAM SPECIFIC TRAVEL SECOND, IT'S A BIG CHUNK OF MINE.
AND IF YOU, AND THE THING IS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, NEED THIS CALL.
I MEAN, CUZ WE, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE A, WELL EVERY, AND THAT'S WHY COMING TO THE WORKSHOP CAUSE WE GO OVER THIS STUFF AT THE WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE, WE DO CAUSE WE KNOW WHERE THE HOTSPOTS ARE MM-HMM.
BUT IF WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THE TIME TO LIKE DO THE WHAT CAN WE IMPROVE ON OUR OWN INSTRUCTION SHEETS? NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE'RE STILL, I THINK WE'RE STILL, YOU'RE CORRECT.
I DEFER TO YOUR, YOUR, YOU COULD SAY TRAVEL SPECIFIC TO THIS PROGRAM OR SOMETHING, COULDN'T YOU? YES.
PRO TRAVEL AND TRA TRAVEL TRAINING SPECIFIC TO PROGRAM PROGRAM SPECIFIC TRAVEL YEAH.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN, UM, YAVAPAI, BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS WROTE THEIR GRAND PROPOSAL FOR LAST YEAR.
THEY INCLUDED TRAINING BECAUSE THEY HAD TOTALLY RETOOLED THEIR AUDIENCE.
THEY WENT FROM, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER CHILDREN AND USING THOSE, THAT THAT TARGET.
THERE WAS THAT, SORRY, THAT WAS THEIR TARGET LITTLES OFF AUDIENCE.
AND LAST YEAR THEY WENT TO LIKE 16 TO 24 YEAR OLDS.
AND THEN THEY HAD TO TRAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIGS WHO WERE GONNA WORK WITH THAT POPULATION.
CUZ THAT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF NEEDS.
SO THAT'S REALLY SPECIFIC TRAINING.
BUT THAT TRAINING WAS ALSO LIKE CANNED, I MEAN NOT CANNED, BUT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD USE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN TO TRAIN THEIR BIGS.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING A PROGRAM THAT IN ORDER TO TRAIN A STUDENT, PART OF PROGRAM PEOPLE.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF OUR LIST OF INELIGIBLE PROGRAM ACTIVITIES OR EVENTS IS CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH.
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ONLY FIVE THINGS ON IT.AN ORGANIZATION MAY HAVE MEMBERS, BUT THE PROGRAM ACTIVITY OR EVENT SHALL NOT DISCRIMINATE BASED ON MEMBERSHIP STATUS FUND TRAVEL OR TRAINING FOR OFFICERS MEMBERS OR VOLUNTEERS PROVIDE DIRECT GRANTS TO, OR SCHOLARSHIPS TO INDIVIDUALS.
WE CAN'T DO THE LIKE THE THE PASS THROUGH.
FUND ORGANIZATIONAL DEFICIT REDUCTION ENDOWMENTS OR FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGNS.
SO THAT JUST MEANS WHAT YOU'RE IN THE HOLE AND YOU NEED, YOU NEED SOME MONEY TO, IS THAT WHAT THIS MEANS?
IT SAYS ONE, WE'RE NOT GONNA COVER WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE IN THE HOLE FOR.
NUMBER TWO, WE'RE NOT GONNA COVER FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES.
AND THEN RELIGIOUS OR OTHER FAITH BASED PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, OREX.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE SAYING IS INELIGIBLE.
WELL, AND AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SIX OF ONE AND HALF.
CUZ IF WE GET TOO SPECIFIC, THERE'S TOO MUCH INFORMATION, PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA ROLL THEIR EYES UP IN THEIR HEAD AND SKIP IT.
SO IT'S LIKE THERE'S AN ECONOMY OF EXPLANATION HERE.
BUT WE HAVE TO ADD THE EQUITY THING.
CHANGING THE SUBJECT JUST FOR A BIT HERE.
WAS IT LAST YEAR MAYBE CHRISTINE, YOU ASKED ABOUT WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE TOOL FAIR PROGRAM AT THE LIBRARY? WELL, YEAH.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT? WELL, I JUST HEARD ABOUT IT JUST THE OTHER DAY.
AND CUZ I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO'S ON THE LIBRARY BOARD AND HE SAID THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT GOING.
SO THEY APPARENTLY NEVER DID GET IT GOING.
I'M GUESSING I DIDN'T ASK THEM ABOUT THAT.
DID THEY GIVE THE MONEY BACK TO THE CITY? I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN IT GOING.
THIS WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE MOVING GOALPOST THINGS.
BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE TOOLS THAN THE ORIGINAL SHED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE TO STORE THE TOOLS COULD HOLD.
SO THEY DID CONTACT THE CITY AND ASK FOR PERMISSION TO USE, LIKE TO CHANGE THEIR ALLOCATION TO MORE TO THAT SECURING A STORAGE PLACE.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED IS THE LARGER SPACE THAT THE LARGER STORAGE WAS GONNA TAKE UP FELL OUT OF AGREEMENT WITH THE LIBRARY.
THE LIBRARY'S INTENTION WAS JUST A SMALL THING AND THE IMPACT ON THE LIBRARY WAS GONNA BE TOO BIG.
AND SO THE LIBRARY NO LONGER WANTED TO SUPPORT THE NEW PLAN.
AND SO EACH STEP OF THE WAY THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS, THEY RAN INTO ANOTHER PROBLEM.
SO THE MONEY, THE MONEY IS SPENT AND THEY TECHNICALLY EXECUTED THE PROJECT.
NEVER GOTTEN UP AND RUNNING AND AFTER LIKE THE FOURTH OR FIFTH EMAIL CHASING THEM.
DARN, I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME SOMETIMES TO BABYSIT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.
IT, IT WAS JUST LIKE, WELL THE GOALPOST IS HERE NOW IT'S HERE.
NOW IT'S 200 YARDS INSTEAD OF A HUNDRED YARDS THAT YOU HAVE TO RUN TO GET TO THAT
AND STILL OUR PORTABLE GAS ANALYZER RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HELICOPTER AND THAT THEY, WE GOT A CHECK BACK FOR THEY, THEY SENT THAT.
WELL THEY COULDN'T, THEY RAN INTO, THEY HAD TO DEVELOP A SPECIAL LABORATORY AND THERE WAS A PERSON THAT HAD THE MAN, THE LABORATORY AND THE LABORATORY HAD TO BE LICENSED AND THE PERSON HAD TO BE TRAINED.
AND ALL OF THAT ENDED UP BEING THIS HUGE WRINKLE THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN WITHIN OUR TIMEFRAME.
SO THEY JUST RETURNED THE CHECK.
THAT AND THE SEARCH AND RESCUE I REALLY FELT WERE SO IMPORTANT.
WELL IT WAS GOOD PR FOR, FOR FLAGSTAFF HOSPITAL TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR HAD A REAL DEBATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T JUST GONNA BE USED FOR SEDONA AND IF, IF IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE USED FOR SEDONA, SHOULD WE FUND IT? AND THEY KIND OF ENDED UP AGREEING TO IT BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT WOULD HELP SEDONA AND IT WAS A CONTRIBUTION, BUT THERE WASN'T A, LIKE A HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD FEELING ABOUT THAT.
AND SO FOR FLAGSTAFF TO REALLY BE ON THAT IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE WALL SHE CALLED ME IS, IS GOOD.
I CHECK THE DPS AND OTHER PLACES TO SEE IF ANY OF THEM YEAH.
NO, THAT'S, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A QUITE A NICE THING TO KNOW INSTANTLY WHAT KIND OF IV FLUID WOULD HELP THIS PERSON IMMEDIATELY.
WELL AND, AND YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING TO ABOUT THE MISSION AND, AND THEY
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APPLYING IN THE FUTURE, GIVING THEM SOME DIRECTION.I THINK THE FLAG STEP HOSPITALS AT THE STAGE OF RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR GRANT PROGRAM.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TIME, IF THEY REAPPLY IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEY HAVE THAT TRACK RECORD.
CUZ THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE AND THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO SEE IS, IS THAT PIECE, BECAUSE I ADD THE COLUMN TO MY SPREADSHEET OF PAST PERFORMANCE.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE A FINAL REPORT? MM-HMM.
IF THEY WANT MONEY THE NEXT TIME.
UM, I MEAN IT IS A REQUIREMENT ANYWAY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT MONEY, BUT SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET A FINAL REPORT IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA APPLY FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THEN THEY DON'T, WE DON'T CARE.
AND UM, ABOUT THREE YEARS INTO THIS, THE COUNCIL WAS SAYING, WELL, DO WE EVER AUDIT AND DO WE EVER AUDIT THE REPORTS? YEAH.
THIS IS PUBLIC FUNDS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE.
SO I WENT OUT AND AUDITED, UM, THEY, AND I SAID, OKAY, WELL WOULD YOU WANT ME TO AUDIT, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME A, YOU KNOW, THREE ORGANIZATIONS YOU WANT ME TO AUDIT THIS YEAR.
SO THEY GAVE ME THREE ORGANIZATIONS AND I WENT OUT AND AUDITED THEM.
AND IT JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST KIND OF THE AUDIT, I MEAN ALL THE AUDITS WENT FINE.
SO I THINK AFTER THAT THEY KIND OF LOST INTEREST IN FA YOU KNOW, IN REQUIRING THE AUDITING BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T MIND, I'LL, I WANT TO KNOW SOMETIMES TOO WHETHER OR NOT THEIR STUFF'S ACCURATE, BUT USUALLY IT IS.
AND THE FINANCIALS, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK BECAUSE WHAT THE THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO KNOW IS W WERE, DID THEY SPEND THE MONEY FOR WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY FOR MM-HMM.
AND AGAIN, STILL GOES BACK TO THIS, THIS, IS THIS STILL ON? YEAH.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM, NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL AREA FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY AND KIND OF MANAGING THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAVE, BUT THEN THERE'S JUST THE SCOPE OF THE FACT THAT GENERALLY THIS IS A ONE PERSON PROGRAM IN, IN TERMS OF THE CITY MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO I WILL BE HERE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS I'M AT THE CITY, I'LL BE HERE FOR KK, KAREN
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A ONE PERSON JOB.
SO, AND SHE'S NOT JUST DOING THAT JOB ALONE, SHE'S THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND HAS ALL OF THESE OTHER POSITIONS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF WE WANNA START DOING THINGS LIKE REGULAR AUDITING AND MM-HMM.
UM, WE'VE BEEN REALLY FORTUNATE CUZ WE HAVE REALLY EXPERIENCED ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE VERY ACCOUNTABLE AND, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE AGAIN, THIS KIND OF JUST IN TIME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL BE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL UNTIL THIS YEAR IS WRAPPED UP.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO INITIATE THAT CONVERSATION AT ALL.
BUT IN TERMS OF RESOURCES DEVOTED TO THE SMALL GRANT PROCESS, AS WE GET MORE ELABORATE THEN WE, WE LOOK AT STAFFING AND, AND DEDICATED STAFFING TIME.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S ADEQUATE.
THEY HAVE A FINAL REPORT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT MM-HMM.
BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THE SAME PEOPLE COMING BACK AND WE KIND OF NEED TO KNOW YES.
WELL, I THINK THE FINAL REPORT'S CRITICAL AS PART OF THE EVALUATION FOR ELIGIBILITY.
THEY, THEY CAN'T GET MORE MONEY UNLESS THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY DID WITH THE MONEY PREVIOUSLY AND BASICALLY DID THE PROGRAM HAPPEN OR DIDN'T IT? AND WERE THE, I READ WHENEVER I REMEMBERED.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SAYING I DID EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT I READ THE LAST YEAR'S REPORTS.
WELL, AND I THINK IN TERMS OF, I THINK THERE'S A REALLY INFORMED EVALUATION PROCESS HERE.
IT'S NOT NEW, IT'S 11 YEARS OLD, THE COMMITTEE IS EXPERIENCED.
SO THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DUE DILIGENCE HERE FOR, FOR THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ARE DONE.
I THINK WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY WANT THIS THING EVERY DAY.
AND I'LL, I'LL GET THE DETAILS ON THAT.
UM, POLICE, UH, ACTIVITY ON HUNTING FOR THE ONE PERSON.
THIS CONCLUDES THE SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE MEETING ON THURSDAY, JUNE 8TH, 2023.
THIS IS THE LAST MEETING OF THE SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE.
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THE SMALL GRANTS EVALUATION PROCESS IS NOW CONCLUDED.