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[1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE]
EVERYONE.I EXPECTED TO SEE YOU TODAY, SCOTT.
UH, WE'LL BE CALLED TODAY'S MEETING TO ORDER.
AND PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE ROLE? MAYOR JLO, PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU.
[3.a. AB 2740 Discussion/possible direction regarding an update on progress made on the Climate Action Plan.]
WE'LL START OFF WITH, UM, ITEM THREE, SPECIAL BUSINESS AB 27 40, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE, AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS MADE ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.AND THEN, UH, OKAY, WE'LL GO FOR D LATER.
WELCOME, EVERYONE ALL DRESSED UP.
YOU LOOK REAL GOOD, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
WHO'S GONNA LEAD OFF? UH, I'LL LEAD OFF.
UM, PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
UH, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL.
WE'RE EXCITED TO, UH, PRESENT TO YOU ON, UH, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE.
UH, LAST TIME THAT WE WERE, UH, HAD THE CHANCE TO BE BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, WAS SEPTEMBER, UH, 28TH OF LAST YEAR.
AND SO OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A NUMBER OF THINGS ACCOMPLISHED.
I'M LOOKING TO SHARE A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS WITH YOU ALL TODAY.
AND SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS BRYCE BECK, SUSTAINABLE MANAGER HERE WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA.
UH, AS WELL AS I HAVE THE REST OF MY SUSTAINABILITY TEAM HERE, AND I'LL ALLOW THEM TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BEFORE WE JUMP INTO IT.
UH, MR. MAYOR, UH, VICE MAYOR, AND, UH, DISTINGUISHED COUNSELORS, UH, COUNSELORS.
UM, YEAH, MY NAME IS ZACH SCHWARTZ, AND, UH, I'M ONE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATORS HERE AT THE CITY.
ONCE AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I AM AN AMERICORPS VISTA MEMBER, UH, SERVING A TERM OF FEDERAL SERVICE HERE, ACTING AS AN ADDITIONAL SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR.
I'LL TRY MY BEST TO GET UP HERE.
I AM THE ECONOMIC, UH, AMERICORPS SPECIALIST.
I HAVE HELPED THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM ON VARIOUS PROJECTS SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY, AND I'M EXCITED TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
UH, SO AS YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE, UH, SOME FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT KIND OF GUIDE OUR PROGRAM.
UH, THEY'RE LARGELY FOUND WITHIN THE SEDONA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
SO THE SEDONA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WAS ADOPTED AND CREATED IN JULY OF 2021.
UH, SET A COMMUNITY-WIDE GOAL OF, UH, REDUCTIONS IN A GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AT 50% BY 2030, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL GOALS OF IMPROVING COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, UH, COMMUNITY MOBILITY, UH, RENEWABLE, UH, ENERGY, UH, SOURCING, AS WELL AS INCREASING WASTE DIVERSION.
THE OTHER, UH, PLAN THAT REALLY GUIDES A LOT OF OUR OBJECTIVES AND INITIATIVES IS FOUND WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT WAS, UH, CREATED IN 2020 WITH SOME OF THE GOALS, UH, FOUND WITHIN THAT PLAN ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BEING RESILIENT, BEING CARBON NEUTRAL, AS WELL AS BEING A HEALTHY WORKPLACE.
UH, BUT BEFORE WE DIVE INTO, UH, OUR UPDATE FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UH, WE WANT TO COVER A QUESTION THAT WE OFTEN RECEIVE, UH, FROM INTERESTED PARTIES, RESIDENTS, AND THE LIKE REGARDING, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THEIR BATTERIES.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO OWEN.
SO, WHEN I FIRST BEGAN MY TERM HERE WITH THE CITY, UH, ONE OF MY FIRST TASKS WAS TO PERFORM SOME LIFECYCLE RESEARCH ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UM, ADOPTION.
AND THIS RESEARCH WAS MOTIVATED, UH, MAINLY BY RESIDENT CONCERNS.
RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ON ELECTRIC VEHICLE IMPACTS ON HUMAN RIGHTS, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, PUBLIC HEALTH, AND, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UH, ACCESSIBILITY OF THE TECHNOLOGIES.
AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER THESE IMPACTS BECAUSE, UH, AS YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF BOTH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY
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PLAN, UH, DUE TO THEIR ROLE, NOT ONLY IN COMMUNITY-WIDE TRANSPORTATION AND EMISSION REDUCTIONS, UH, BUT ALSO IN OUR GREEN FLEET POLICY.SO TODAY, WHAT I'LL DO FOR YOU IS BROADLY COMPARE THE LIFECYCLE IMPACTS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SPECIFICALLY BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES, UM, VERSUS YOUR TRADITIONAL GASOLINE VEHICLES.
AND IN ANALYZING THESE IMPACTS, UH, WE LOOKED AT SEPARATE LIFECYCLE STAGES.
UM, SO IN THE PRODUCTION STAGE FOR BOTH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES, OUR MAIN CONCERNS ARE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, MINERAL SCARCITY IMPACTS, AND HUMAN RIGHTS.
IN THE USAGE STAGE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT EQUITY CONCERNS, EMISSIONS ONCE AGAIN, AS WELL AS PUBLIC HEALTH.
AND IN THE DISPOSAL STAGE, WE ARE CHIEFLY LOOKING AT, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL DIVE INTO THE IMPACTS FOR YOU.
UH, SO FIRST OFF, WE'LL START WITH GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
UM, IN THE PRODUCTION STAGE, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, UH, EMISSIONS ARE OFTEN GREATER FOR BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAN THEY ARE FOR TRADITIONAL GASOLINE VEHICLES.
AND THE OPPOSITE IS GENERALLY TRUE DURING THE USAGE PHASE AS, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, TAILPIPE EMISSIONS.
UH, INSTEAD DURING THE USAGE PHASE PHASE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, UH, WE SEE EMISSIONS COMING FROM, UH, ELECTRICITY GENERATION.
SO OVERALL DIFFERENCES IN LIFECYCLE EMISSIONS BETWEEN GASOLINE VEHICLES AND BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE LARGELY DEPENDENT ON THE SOURCE OF ELECTRICITY THAT'S POWERING THOSE CHARGERS.
AND AS FOR MINERAL SCARCITY IMPACTS, UH, THEY ARE GENERALLY GREATER FOR BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE THERE ARE RARE NON-RENEWABLE MINERALS THAT ARE NEEDED TO CREATE THESE BATTERIES.
UH, ALTHOUGH IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT A LOT OF THESE SAME MINERALS ARE NEEDED IN THE MANUFACTURING OF GASOLINE VEHICLES, UH, FOR THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS ON BOARD.
AND AS FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, UH, THERE ARE MINERAL RELATED, UH, MINERAL SUPPLY CHAIN RELATED, UH, HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS FOR BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
UH, SO THAT IS A GREATER, UH, CONCERN FOR BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAN IT IS FOR GASOLINE VEHICLES.
UH, ALTHOUGH ONCE AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE SAME MINERALS ARE NEEDED FOR GASOLINE VEHICLES.
AND AS FAR AS EQUITY AND ACCESSIBILITY GOES, UM, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT GASOLINE VEHICLES ARE STILL MORE ACCESSIBLE TO LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS, UH, DUE TO THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE BETWEEN THE TWO TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL AS OFTENTIMES IN LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES, WE SEE A LACK OF CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND THIS LACK OF CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE AFFORDABILITY IS BEING ADDRESSED ACROSS THE COUNTRY CURRENTLY THROUGH, UH, FEDERAL AND STATE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE PROGRAMS AND INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, IN THE USAGE STAGE, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS ARE MUCH GREATER FOR GASOLINE VEHICLES, TYPICALLY DUE TO THOSE TAILPIPE EMISSIONS.
UM, BUT AS WITH, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, THE DEGREE OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE IMPACTS OF THESE TWO TECHNOLOGIES IS DEPENDENT ON THE SOURCE OF ELECTRICITY FOR, UH, THOSE CHARGERS IN THE DISPOSAL STAGE FOR BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE SEE GREATER PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS, UM, RELATED TO MINERAL DISPOSAL, UH, AS THERE ARE TOXIC AND CARCINOGENIC, UH, COMPONENTS IN THESE BATTERIES.
UM, BUT WE SHOULD NOTE HERE THAT LITHIUM ION BATTERIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE EPAS UNIVERSAL WASTE RULE.
SO IF WE ARE DISPOSING OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES THROUGH REPUTABLE SERVICE PROVIDERS, THEN THESE IMPACTS ARE LARGELY MITIGATED.
AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE IMPACTS, I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO BRYCE TO REVIEW OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES.
OH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.
SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S GREATER IN ONE, UH, ASPECT THAN ANOTHER, HOW WOULD YOU RANK IT THOUGH? MUCH GREATER, LESS, GREATER, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF YOU ADDED ALL THE COLUMNS UP, WHAT WOULD YOU COME OUT WITH? SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER FOR THIS ANALYSIS BECAUSE, UH, FOR THIS, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE TECHNOLOGIES AS A WHOLE.
SO MY CONCLUSIONS HERE ARE GENERALIZED, WHEREAS IF WE WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, RELIABLE, REALLY USABLE, UM, COMPARISONS BETWEEN THE TWO, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT DOWN TO THE PRODUCT LEVEL AND COMPARE SPECIFIC MODELS AS THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOURCES OF MINERALS BETWEEN SPECIFIC MANUFACTURERS.
UM, AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE AND WHERE THE, UM, THE ELECTRICITY IS COMING FROM TO POWER THOSE CHARGERS.
SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE IN MANUFACTURERS, WHERE WOULD THEY GET THAT INFORMATION? ARE THERE STUDIES OR ARTICLES THAT WE COULD POINT PEOPLE TO? UM, THERE ARE SOME, UH, SPECIFIC PRODUCT LIFECYCLE ANALYSES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR SPECIFIC PRODUCTS.
UM, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS NOT
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AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST THROUGH CORPORATE REPORTING THAT MAY BE PRIVATE TO THESE COMPANIES.
UM, SO FOR EMISSIONS IT IS DIFFICULT.
THERE ARE RESOURCES TO HELP INDIVIDUALS, UM, SELECT MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE SOURCING MINERALS RESPONSIBLY, SO TO HELP MITIGATE THOSE HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS IN THE SUPPLY CHAINS.
BUT OVERALL, THAT WOULD, UM, SOME OF THAT IS NOT VERY READILY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC TRADE SECRETS.
WELL, IF SOMETHING DOES COME OUT, WOULD YOU LET US KNOW? CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE OF HIGH VALUE TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS, TO ANYBODY WHO'S CONSIDERING THE PURCHASE.
I WILL, UH, LOOK INTO THAT MORE FOR YOU.
I WANT TO LET HIM GO ON TO THE NEXT.
I, OH, AND I THINK I, I READ A ARTICLE THAT STUNNED ME JUST THE OTHER DAY, AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DIG IT DOWN INTO IT, BUT IT ALMOST GOES ALONG SOME OF THESE QUICK ITEMS THAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT VICE MAYOR, AND, AND IT SOUNDED, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST SORT OF SAY MAYBE IT'S A MYTH BUSTING THING.
IT'S LIKE, IS THIS DIRECTIONALLY CORRECT OR IS IT LIKE WAY OUTTA WHACK? AND MAYBE THAT'S THE LEVEL, I DON'T NEED TO KNOW SPECIFIC DETAILS, BUT AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERY MIGHT WEIGH A THOUSAND POUNDS.
A GAS OF TANK MIGHT WEIGH 70 POUNDS TO GENERATE ALL THE MINERALS NEEDED FOR THAT A THOUSAND POUND BATTERY.
IT'S A 500,000 POUNDS OF DIRT AND ROCK THAT'S MINED SOMEWHERE TO GENERATE.
ARE THOSE NUMBERS CORRECT? UM, I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE NUMBERS, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE CERTAINLY, UM, SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MINING PROCESS.
UM, AND I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THERE, UM, OR TO BRING TO LIGHT THERE IS THE VALUE OF BATTERY RECYCLING IN THIS CASE.
UM, I, WHEN YOU RECYCLE THE RAW MATERIALS OF THESE BATTERIES AND PUT THEM BACK INTO THE SUPPLY CHAIN, YOU THEN ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR FURTHER MINING OF THOSE, WHICH HELPS TO ADDRESS THOSE RISKS, UM, AS WELL AS OTHER RISKS, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, MINERAL SCARCITY, OF COURSE, AS WELL AS, UH, HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS IN THOSE MINERAL SUPPLY CHAINS.
WELL, I WILL COMPLIMENT YOU, OWEN, JUST GOING THROUGH THE BALANCE.
I THINK YOU SURFACE ALL THE ISSUES HERE, AND I THINK YOU DID A NICE JOB OF DOING THAT.
YEAH, IT'S SUPER TRICKY TO DECIDE ENVIRONMENTALLY WHETHER IT'S REALLY THE RIGHT THING AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME.
I THINK US BEING IN ARIZONA WITH POWER, YOU KNOW, SOLAR BEING A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GENERATE HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE APS IS TRYING TO DO, WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THAT STUFF, BUT IT'S A REALLY TRICKY QUESTION THAT YOU ASK.
AND, AND IF THEY'RE, AND I'LL REITERATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, DIRECTION THAT IF YOU FIND GOOD ARTICLES THAT YOU REALLY FEEL ARE RELIABLE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE INDUSTRY AND STUFF, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO FORWARD THOSE, THOSE ON REALLY WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UH, UH, JESSICA, MS.
SO COULD YOU REMIND ME? UM, CURRENTLY IT IS, UM, IT'S A PRETTY LOW NUMBER.
I DON'T HAVE THE, THE EXACT INDUSTRY AVERAGE ON HAND.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS 10 TWENTIES, 30, 40, UH, I WOULD PROBABLY PUT IT, UH, TWENTIES OR BELOW.
UM, ALTHOUGH THAT IS CHANGING NOW AND THERE IS BATTERY RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT HERE IN OUR STATE DOWN IN THE PHOENIX AREA.
UM, AND MY SECOND, UH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION, IT'S A COMMENT IS THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT AND, UH, B YOU KNOW, CHOOSING BETWEEN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UM, AND CARBON EMISSIONS AND DEATH FROM POLLUTION.
I MEAN, I REALLY, THESE ARE ALL ISSUES, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DETERMINED IF NECESSARILY, OF, OF, OF MOVING FORWARD WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
I GUESS IT'S, THERE ARE ISSUES WITH, UM, GAS POWERED STUFF.
THERE'S FRACKING, THERE'S THE PIPELINE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ISSUES.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S EITHER THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS OR THE, OR NOTHING.
IT'S, THESE ARE ISSUES AND THEY ARE REAL ISSUES.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GONNA BE DETERMINATIVE THAT
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BECAUSE WE ONLY RECYCLED 20%.WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO DONKEYS.
ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION WAS THE SAME AS COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON'S, BUT TO EXPAND ON IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RECYCLING, UH, WELL, JUST GENERALLY, WE ARE HEAVILY RELIANT IN OUR, IN OUR PLAN ON CHANGING OVER TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR REDUCED EMISSIONS TO MEET OUR GOALS.
IF THE EMISSION, IF THE BATTERIES ARE TURNING OUT TO BE QUESTIONABLE IN TERMS OF IF THAT IS A DIRECTION TO KEEP PURSUING AND THAT COMPONENT WAS REMOVED FROM THE PLAN, HOW WILL THAT AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO ATTAIN OUR GOALS? UM, SO SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE GREEN FLEET POLICY HERE, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WITH THAT POLICY THAT, THAT, UM, THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY TARGETING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THAT POLICY, UH, THE LANGUAGE IN IT, UH, IS DESIGNED TO HAVE A FLEET TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLES, UH, WHICH ARE ZERO TAILPIPE EMISSIONS VEHICLES.
UM, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST BATTERY ELECTRIC IN THAT CASE.
IT COULD ALSO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE A HYDROGEN FUEL CELL VEHICLE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE NOT THE ONLY ROUTE TO ACHIEVING THAT GOAL.
UM, BUT WITH THE WAY THAT THE INDUSTRY AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS AT THIS TIME, IT IS THE MOST PRACTICAL FOR OUR CURRENT TRANSITION ACTIONS.
AND TO, TO ADD ON BRIEFLY TO, UH, WHAT OWEN, UH, SAID WE'RE THE INDUSTRY FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS KIND OF IN THE STATE OF TRANSITION.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT'S GOING INTO ALTERNATIVE BATTERY COMPONENTS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S LIKE A SODIUM ION BATTERY, THE TRADITIONAL RIGHT NOW IS LIKE A LITHIUM ION BATTERY.
UH, BUT THE, THE, THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT THAT'S GOING INTO IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT BATTERY TECHNOLOGIES THAT COULD TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS.
AND THEN AS UH, OWEN MENTIONED, UH, THERE'S THAT KIND OF TRANSITION POINT TO WHETHER OR NOT HYDROGEN, UH, FUEL CELL POWERED VEHICLES MIGHT BE SCALABLE TO GET TO A SPOT WHERE THAT CAN ALSO KIND OF SERVE AS A, UH, A COMPONENT TO BE ABLE TO FILL THAT GAP IF ELECTRIC VEHICLES DOESN'T QUITE REACH THERE.
BUT THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE IS REALLY IN THIS KIND OF PUSH PULL COMPONENT ON HOW DID THEY MAKE THAT TRANSITION, HOW DO THEY DO IT EFFECTIVELY? AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF P PRICE STRUCTURES CHANGE A LOT OF, UH, VEHICLE STRUCTURES WHERE, LIKE THE CHEVY BOLT, WHICH WAS THE, THE CHEAPEST OPTION FOR AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE WAS JUST RECENTLY DISCONTINUED.
AND SO, OH, THE, UH, THE OVERALL MARKET IS TRYING TO SHIFT, UH, AND TRY TO ADJUST SOME OF THESE NEEDS.
UH, AND SO AS WE GO ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM AND AS WE CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY OPTIONS, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO TRY TO EVALUATE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION AT THAT POINT.
BUT WE'RE KIND OF GOING WITH WHERE THE INDUSTRY TRENDS ARE KIND OF DIRECTING US AT THE MOMENT.
AND THAT TREND AT THE THIS MOMENT IS GOING TO THOSE BATTERY ELECTRIC, UH, BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES, NOT SO MUCH ON THE HYDROGEN UH, COMPONENT.
THE HYDROGEN FUEL CELL MIGHT BE MORE TO THE, UH, SCALING TO LIKE SEMI-TRUCK, LARGE TRANSIT VEHICLES AND THE LIKE.
UH, BUT IT LOOKS AT THE MOMENT THAT THE MORE PASSENGER VEHICLES ARE GOING TO AN ELECTRIC, UH, BATTERY ELECTRIC COMPONENT.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE STATED REASONS FOR THE DISCONTINUATION OF THE CHEVY BOLT AND UM, IS IT BEING REPLACED WITH ANOTHER MODEL? MOST OF THE INDUSTRY HAS KIND OF SHIFTED AWAY FROM MORE OF THE SMALLER PASSENGER VEHICLES FOR THEIR ELECTRIC VEHICLE OPTIONS.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN KIND OF GOING TO THAT BIGGER SUV OR TRUCK PHASE.
UH, PART OF THAT IS, UH, THEY MAKE HIGHER PROFIT MARGINS OFF OF 'EM AS WELL AS JUST WHERE THEY'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE, UH, THE INDUSTRY DEMAND AS BEING.
UH, AND SO TRYING TO NAVIGATE THOSE AS WE GO ALONG IS KIND OF LIKE AN EXTERNAL, UH, FORCE WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE INDUSTRY PLAY WITHIN THAT AND HOW DO WE KIND OF NAVIGATE WITHIN THOSE FIELDS.
SO I'D SAY THAT ULTIMATELY WHERE WE'RE ONGOING IS JUST TRYING TO FIND THOSE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT IN GENERAL, THE, THE KIND OF SHIFT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS HAS BEEN TO LARGER ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO THERE'S BEEN A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANUFACTURING PLUSES AND MINUSES ON A GHG BASIS, RIGHT? WITH THE BATTERY ELECTRIC.
SO LET'S JUST SAY FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, THAT, UH, BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE, UH, UNFAVORABLE TO, UH, GASOLINE VEHICLES.
AND LET'S SAY THAT THAT UNFAVORABILITY IN G HG LOOKS LIKE THAT, BUT THE LIFE CYCLE USE AND IMPACT OF BATTERY ELECTRIC VERSUS, UH, FUEL GASOLINE VEHICLES, IS IT LIKE THIS? AND SO, NET NET, IT'S A NO-BRAINER THAT YES, OF COURSE WE SHOULD BE GOING BATTERY ELECTRIC OVER GASOLINE.
CUZ I FEEL LIKE WE'RE POTENTIALLY GOING DOWN A RABBIT HOLE HERE WHERE IT'S LIKE, SO WHAT IF IN THE SHORT TERM, YOU KNOW, THE MANUFACTURING SIDE IS NEGATIVE, BUT THE OVERALL LIFECYCLE USE IS BY FAR A POSITIVE.
UM, YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY THAT
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THE, THE BIG DIFFERENCE THERE IS AGAIN THAT THAT USAGE STAGE OF JUST WHERE THE ELECTRICITY IS COMING FROM THAT, UH, POWERS THOSE CHARGERS AS FAR AS THE DEGREE OF DIFFERENCE THAT YOU GET BETWEEN THE TWO ACROSS THE ENTIRE LIFE CYCLE.UH, SO THE GOOD NEWS FOR US HERE IS THAT, UM, THE ARIZONA NEW MEXICO GRID IS BECOMING CLEANER, YOU KNOW, LOWER CARBON ELECTRICITY.
UM, AND AS FAR AS, UH, ANY CHARGERS THAT ARE OPERATED WITH MUNICIPALLY PURCHASE ELECTRICITY, UH, WE HAVE OUR GREEN POWER PARTNERSHIP AS WELL THAT, UM, HELPS TO MITIGATE THAT.
UM, ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE IS IN ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE STUDIES THAT I LOOKED AT FOR THIS, AND THIS WAS A VERY BROAD STUDY, UM, THEY SAW A SHIFT BASICALLY IN THE, THE LARGEST PROPORTION OF THOSE TOTAL LIFECYCLE EMISSIONS, UH, FROM THE USAGE STAGE TO THE PRODUCTION STAGE, AS MORE RENEWABLES ARE BEING USED TO POWER THE CHAR OR THE CHARGERS IN THAT RENEW THE USAGE STAGE.
UM, SO YOU ARE GETTING SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS THERE WHEN THE DAY IS DONE.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SAY UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT IT IS A NET BENEFIT IN G HG EMISSIONS TO BE ON BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES VERSUS GASOLINE VEHICLES? I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE INCORPORATING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT VARIABLES HERE, HOW THE POWERS GENERATED, ET CETERA, BUT YOU KNOW, TO THE PUBLIC AND YOU KNOW, THEM WONDERING WHETHER ARE WE DOWN THE RIGHT PATH OR NOT? CAN YOU UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY IT IS OF BENEFIT TO THE EARTH AND TO GHG EMISSION MEASUREMENT THAT WE'RE ON A BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLE PATH RIGHT NOW? UH, YEAH.
THE, THE TRENDS IN RESEARCH THAT I'VE SEEN SAY THAT, THAT THAT IS THE CASE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT IS DEPENDENT ON THE SPECIFIC PRODUCT.
SO TO REALLY SAY FIRMLY, YOU WOULD NEED TO DO A PRODUCT SPECIFIC LIFECYCLE ANALYSIS FOR THAT.
BUT, UH, ON THE WHOLE, I WOULD SAY YES, WE ARE GETTING A NET BENEFIT, UH, AS FAR AS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS GO.
SO WHEN WE PURCHASE FOR THE CITY, DO WE DO A PRODUCT SPECIFIC ANALYSIS? UM, NOT AT THIS TIME.
UH, WELL, SO TO, TO CLARIFY WHEN, WHEN THE VEHICLE, WHEN A VEHICLE PURCHASE COMES AVAILABLE OR IS SUGGESTED, WE LOOK AT THAT PRODUCT, UH, FOR ITS, UH, APPLICABILITY FOR, UH, EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS IN ASSOCIATION NOW IS GOING DOWN INTO, AS OWEN SAID, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MANUFACTURER DETAIL AND WHERE WE HAVE THE DATA, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, FROM MINERAL OPERATIONS.
WE DO NOT HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT WE GO AS FAR AS WE CAN TO GET TO THE SPOT OF HOW AN, HOW WE ANALYZE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT TRANSITION OR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE REPLACEMENT VERSUS THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION COMPONENT.
SO WE GO AS FAR AS WE CAN OUTSIDE OF GETTING INDUSTRY TRADE SECRET DATA.
BUT I GUESS ARE THE PRODUCTS THAT WE BUY, PUTTING ASIDE THE MINERALS AND ALL OF THAT, LET'S ASSUME THEY ALL DID THE SAME THING GETTING HERE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US BASICALLY REQUIRE AN ANALYSIS, CORRECT.
I MEAN, NEVERMIND, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE I KNOW, I, IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION.
WE DON'T DO AN ANALYSIS, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT IS, HOW DO WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE MOST EFFICIENT, UM, GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION WHEN WE BUY OUR VEHICLES, WHEN THE VEHICLES ARE RELEASED? THEY BETTER WAY OF ASKING WHEN THE VEHICLES, UH, ARE RELEASED.
THEY HAVE EPA STANDARDS ON THE AMOUNT OF MILES THAT THEY TRAVEL PER KILOWATT HOUR.
AND THEN WE COMPARE THAT TO THE EQUIVALENCE OF THAT INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE.
AND THEN WE APPLY EMISSION FACTORS THAT ARE BASED OFF OF THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION EMISSION FACTOR VERSUS WHERE THEY'RE AT FOR THAT SAME DISTANCE TO BE TRAVELED BY ENERGY SOURCES OF ELECTRICITY AND APPLYING AN ELECTRICITY EMISSION FACTOR ASSOCIATED TO IT.
AND WITH THOSE COMPARISONS, WE CAN SEE THE BENEFITS BETWEEN THE TWO TECHNOLOGIES FOR EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY SO MUCH AS A FORD, A TESLA, UH, THIS OR THE APP, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S OKAY.
BUT BRIAN ISN'T, NO, I'M JUST, UH, I'M JUST EXCLAIMING.
THIS IS WILDLY OVERCOMPLICATED.
YES, IT IS, IS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE.
SO LET'S GO ON WITH, WE CAN JUST ACTUALLY JUST GO ON WITH THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, IF WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE HAVE TO SORT OF DO IT THE WAY WE COULD DO IT AT THIS POINT.
AND GIVEN ALL OF THE PROBLEMS WITH PRODUCTION AND ALL OF THE ISSUES YOU RAISED IN THE MARKETPLACE, REGARDLESS, YOU HAVE CERTAIN OPTIONS AND ALL OF THEM ARE BETTER THAN GASOLINE IS, IS, I GUESS,
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FUNDAMENTALLY THE QUESTION.AND THAT'S WHAT, HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
SO I HAVE NOTHING, I DO NOT WISH TO COMPLICATE THIS ANYMORE.
IT WASN'T YOU, IT WASN'T YOU COUNSELOR.
UH, BRIAN, YOU WANNA FINISH UP OR ALL SET? THANK YOU, MELISSA, VICE MAYOR.
ASIDE FROM THE MANUFACTURING AND THIS, THIS IS WHOLE WAY ABOVE MY PAY GRADE, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU GUYS DO WHEN YOU'RE PUT TOGETHER IS JUST AMAZING.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO IT WAY OVER MY EDUCATION LEVEL, BUT, UH, UH, MOVING FORWARD ABOVE THE MANUFACTURING, THE BATTERY LIFESPAN, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THEY'RE GONNA LAST, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED MILE, A HUNDRED, A THOUSAND MILES, 200,000 MILES.
AND THEN I, I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL FERMAN SAID, WELL, BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT OF THE BATTERY, THEY GET TOSSED, YOU GOTTA TAKE THE WHOLE CAR APART AND PUT A NEW ONE IN.
AND THEN I SEE HERE ABOUT THE EPA DISPOSAL REGULATIONS IS COMPARED TO A GASOLINE CAR, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT CAN ONLY ALMOST ENTIRELY BE RECYCLED FOR THE MOST PART EXCEPT FOR THE OILS AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
IS THE BATTERY AT A POINT WHERE IT CAN BE RECYCLED OR IT WILL BE GOING TO THE EARTH? OR SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME IT CAN REALLY BE REBUILT AND RE, YOU KNOW, REFURBISHED AND BACK IN ANOTHER CAR.
WHAT, WHERE ARE THEY NOW AND WHAT'S THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE? YEAH, SO THERE ARE, UM, A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS CURRENTLY.
UM, REFURBISHMENT IS AN OPTION, UM, FOR SOME OF THESE, UH, BATTERIES ONCE THEY REACH THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE IN A VEHICLE, UH, THEY CAN BE REFURBISHED AND REPURPOSED FOR, UH, SMALLER APPLICATIONS CAN BE WHAT ARE YES.
AND THEY, THEY CAN BE, AND THEY CURRENTLY ARE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE RECYCLING PERCENTAGE GOES, UM, THE SPECIFIC RECYCLER THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO DOWN IN THE PHOENIX AREA, THEY HAVE QUITE AN INNOVATIVE, UH, RECYCLING PROCESS.
AND, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS OVER 90% OF THE BATTERY IS RECYCLED IN THAT CASE.
AND THE 10% THAT'S REMAINING, WHERE DOES THAT GO? UH, SO THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY PLASTICS.
UM, AND I THINK SOME OTHER METALS THAT ARE IN IT, NOT SO MUCH THE, UH, THE RARE EXPENSIVE METALS, BUT MORE THE COMMON ONES IN THERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, AND THOSE ONES, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, THE WASTE STREAM IS FOR THOSE.
UH, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE RECYCLED, THEY'RE BASICALLY, UM, REDUCED BACK DOWN TO THEIR, THEIR ELEMENTAL ORIGINAL FORM.
UM, AND THEN THEY CAN BE SOLD TO MANUFACTURERS FOR, UH, FURTHER ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANUFACTURING OR OTHER BATTERY MANUFACTURING.
AND THE, UH, QUESTION I HAD PRIOR WAS THE, UH, LONGEVITY OF A BATTERY.
IS IT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES? IS IT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT AT THAT YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO HAVE TO REPLACE OR REFURBISH THE BATTERY? YEAH, SO AS WITH, UH, A GASOLINE VEHICLE, IT'S GONNA DEPEND A LOT ON, OF COURSE, HOW YOU USE IT, ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, WHEN IT'S OPERATING, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, BUT THE, THE GENERAL RANGE THAT I'VE SEEN IS ANYWHERE FROM, UH, EIGHT TO 20 YEARS OF USE.
THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT I'VE SEEN.
YEAH, TYPICALLY IN THE 10 TO 15 YEAR RANGE IS WHAT I'VE SEEN IT.
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS KNOW THIS STUFF,
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING CARE.
THIS IS ALL WE, I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BATTERIES AND THE CARS MORE THAN OTHER THINGS, SO I, IT HELPS ME TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EDUCATED.
ALRIGHT, UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS, UH, INVENTORIES.
UH, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN, AS WE'VE GONE TO COMPLETE THE INVENTORIES IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS TO HELP US BE ABLE TO AGGREGATE AND OUR CONGREGATE DATA IN A SPOT WHERE WE CAN USE IT MORE EFFECTIVELY.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR UTILITY PLATFORMS THAT CAN HELP US WITH THAT TRACKING, UH, MECHANISM.
SO, UH, SINCE WE LAST SAW YOU IN, UH, LATE SEPTEMBER, WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT A UTILITY TRACKING PLATFORM CALLED WATCH WIRE.
AND SO SOME OF THE, UH, COMPONENTS OF THE, UH, TRADITIONAL GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO KIND OF ADDRESS IS THAT IT CAN BE OFTEN TIME CONSUMING WITH DATA AND OFTEN MANY DIFFERENT PLACES OR, OR PLATFORMS. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT ALL INTO ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION AS WELL AS, UH, SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO CREATE, UH, COMPELLING VISUALS WITHIN THAT.
AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER COMPONENT IS WITHIN OUR SPREADSHEETS.
IT'S REALLY KIND OF HARD TO TRACK EFFECTIVELY WHEN A PROJECT WAS IMPLEMENTED FOR AN EFFICIENCY REDUCTION AND BE ABLE TO SEE THAT OVER TIME HOW THAT HAS TRANSITIONED.
UH, AND AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL BENEFITS ARE KIND OF LIMITED INTO A SPREADSHEET FOR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AS REALLY INHERENT FOR WHAT WE LOOK AT ON THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.
BUT HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM THAT ALSO CAN FLAG THINGS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS? AND SO WITH THE, UH,
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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WATCH WIRE PLATFORM, WE ARE ABLE TO MORE READILY CREATE THOSE GRAPHS AND REPORTS AND TRACK EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PRO PROJECTS AS WELL AS ABLE TO FLAG, UH, VARIANCE IN ACCOUNTS.SO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S HIGH COST OR HIGH USAGE OR BILLING DATES, MISMATCH OR WHATNOT, WE CAN FLAG IT, UH, AND HAVE AN AUTOMATED REPORT GET SENT TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OR PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF TRACK WHERE THOSE COMPONENTS ARE AT TO LOOK INTO THOSE BILLING COMPONENTS MORE READILY.
AS I MENTIONED WITH THOSE AUTOMATED REPORTS, WE GET TO SEE THOSE TRENDS WITHIN THE DATA, UH, AND GET 'EM, UM, MORE QUICK OR QUICKER FORMAT AS WELL AS, UH, THE PLATFORM WILL ADJUST FOR WEATHER VARIANCES TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE ARE BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS.
SO WE KIND OF GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO AN APPLES, APPLES COMPARISON, UH, FOR THOSE COMPONENTS.
AS WELL AS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE GRANULARITY BY ACCOUNT.
UH, WE CAN NOW CYCLE THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE ACCOUNTS, SEE WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF TREND LINES ARE.
UH, AND KIND OF I REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLES OF THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE GRASS ON THE RIGHT.
UH, THE BOTTOM ONE IS FOR NATURAL, BOTTOM RIGHT IS FOR NATURAL GAS.
UH, AND SO THIS ONE KIND OF SHOWS THESE REALLY STRONG SEASONAL FLUCTUATIONS.
DURING THE SUMMER, UH, WE GET DECLINES AND THEN DURING THE WINTER WE RAMP BACK UP FOR, UH, THE, THE HEATING, HEATING OF THE FACILITIES, WHATNOT.
BUT WE GET THAT GRANULARITY WITHIN THE ACCOUNTS IS THAT WHEN WE GO TO IMPLEMENT A SPECIFIC PROJECT FOR, UH, A BUILDING OR THE LIKE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WE CAN NOW HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE ACCOUNTS.
UH, SO THAT HAS HELPED US, UH, STARTING TO CREATE THE, THE MUNICIPAL INVENTORIES.
AND SO THIS WAS A OVERVIEW, UH, SLIDE SIMILAR TO THE ONE, UH, FROM LAST SEPTEMBER.
UH, JUST THAT WE HAVE 2018 IS OUR BASELINE YEAR.
AND THEN THE LAST, UH, FROM 2020 TO 2022, WE'VE COMPLETED FOR A MUNICIPAL INVENTORY.
THE DATA IS MORE ACCESSIBLE AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL CAUSE WE HAVE THE D DIRECT SPEND REPORTS.
WE HAVE THE ACCOUNT AND UTILITY INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT AS, UH, DIFFICULT TO ACQUIRE, UH, CONSIDERING FOR THE COMMUNITY LEVEL, WHICH NEEDS MORE THIRD PARTY, UH, COLLABORATION AND THE, LIKE, THE EMISSION CATEGORIES THAT WE'VE CALCULATED FOR ALL THE YEARS HAS BEEN THE SAME, UH, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH WASTEWATER TREATMENT BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES, VEHICLE FLEET, EMPLOYEE COMMUTING, SOLID WASTE, AND LIKE PROCESS FUGITIVE MISSIONS.
SO WE'VE KEPT THAT, UH, THOSE CATEGORIES THE SAME ACROSS ALL OF THE YEARS FOR THE REPORTING.
SO WHERE WE'RE AT FOR OUR 2022 MUNICIPAL EMISSIONS, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE AT 2000, A LITTLE OVER 2000 METRIC TONS OF EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, AND THEY KIND OF GET BRACKETED IN THE DIFFERENT SCOPES.
SCOPE ONES ARE LARGELY YOUR NATURAL GAS, YOUR EMPLOYEE OR YOUR, UH, VEHICLE FLEET COM, UH, AND THE LIKE, OR, UM, AC EMISSIONS SCOPE TWO IS LARGELY YOUR PURCHASE ELECTRICITY SCOPE THREE CAN GET A VERY BROAD FROM THAT COMPONENT, BUT WE LARGELY ARE LOOKING AT SOLID WASTE IN, IN THIS SENSE.
LAST, UH, LAST SEPTEMBER WHEN WE PRESENTED FOR THIS, UH, EXACT SAME PIE CHART, SCOPE TWO TOOK UP 50% OF THE EMISSIONS, UH, FOR 2021.
AND THEN, UH, SO IT KIND OF SHOWS THAT SHIFT ON A YEAR-TO-YEAR BASIS ON KIND OF LIKE WHERE THE DISTRIBUTION IS ACROSS THE DIFFERENT SCOPES.
UH, AND SO A BREAKDOWN BY CATEGORY.
UH, SO IN THE UPPER LEFT GRAPH, UH, WE HAVE THE, THE KIND OF THE THREE MAIN ONES FROM 2021 FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT, ELECTRICITY EMPLOYEE COMMUTING AT 19% AND FLEET AT 16%.
SO THOSE THREE STILL REMAIN OUR TOP, UH, EMITTING SOURCES IN 2022.
BUT THE OVERALL SHIFT OF WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF COMING FROM AND TAKING UP THE, UH, PIE CHART IS KIND OF ADJUSTED.
SO ELECTRICITY IS DOWN TO 32% OF THOSE OVERALL EMISSIONS.
AND THEN, UH, COMMUTING AND FLEET HAVE STAYED RELATIVELY STAGNANT, SO THEY KIND OF, UH, TAKE UP A LARGER CHUNK OF EMISSIONS AT THAT POINT THAN 21% AND 23% RESPECTIVELY.
UH, BUT THE GOAL OF THIS TO JUST KIND OF SHOW THAT ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS, THERE'S KIND OF FLUCTUATION WITHIN WHERE THE EMISSION SOURCES ARE COMING FROM.
SO, UH, AS A WHOLE FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS ON, UH, OUR BASELINE IS OUR BASELINE IS, UH, HERE AT THIS 20 LITTLE OVER 2,900 METRIC UNMARK.
UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE DOWN ABOUT 31%, UM, TO ABOUT 20 2005 AND 50 METRIC TONS.
SO WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS THERE, UH, IN TERMS OF EMISSIONS FOR OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
AND THEN QUICKLY JUST TO SHOW WHERE WE'RE KIND OF AT, UM, FOR, AS IN EACH CATEGORY.
UH, SO THE WASTEWATER ELECTRICITY, UH, COMPONENT HERE THAT YOU SEE THIS DECLINE, UH, THIS IS, UH, LARGELY ASSOCIATED WITH A, A NUMBER OF FACTORS.
THE ADDITION OF THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM, IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ELECTRICAL GRID EMISSIONS FACTORS AS WELL AS, UH, 2022 SAW AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE SOLAR OUTPUT FROM THE WASTEWATER SOLAR FARM.
SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE KIND OF REALLY STARTED TO, TO DRIVE DOWN EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH WASTEWATER ELECTRICITY, UH, EMPLOYEE COMMUTING.
WE DO A, A SURVEY EVERY FALL, UH, TO COLLECT THE DATA, UH, TO DO AN ESTIMATION ON EMPLOYEE COMMUTING.
UH, THAT'S BEEN RELATIVELY STEADY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
SO THERE'S ABOUT A 0% CHANGE FROM THE BASELINE.
SO EACH ONE OF THE PERCENTAGE CHANGES IS RELATIVE TO THE ORANGE BAR BASELINE.
UH, AND SO, UH, THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH CHANGE IN COM COMMUTING.
THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE
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EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS HIRED.THE DISTANCE THAT THEY LIVE AWAY FROM THE CITY HAS DECREASED SLIGHTLY.
UH, AND SO THEY'RE ALL KIND OF BALANCING OUT TO WHERE, UM, THE COMPONENT IS, UH, RELATIVELY FLAT ACROSS THE BOARD.
UH, WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN OUR OVERALL FLEET, UH, EMISSIONS FROM 2018 TO NOW.
SIMILAR, UH, REASONS FOR THAT IS JUST MORE, MORE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY, MORE OPERATIONS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
SO THERE'S THOSE TRAVEL COMPONENTS.
SO, UH, AS WE LOOK TO TRY TO GET THAT, GET OVER THAT HUMP AND START DRIVING DOWN EMISSIONS RELATED TO THE GREEN FLEET POLICY, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF A HIT OR MISS KIND OF CLUNKY PROCESS AS, AS WE MAKE THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPONENTS ISN'T JUST AS SIMPLE AS BUYING, UH, A GAS, GAS POWERED CARS.
UH, WE MENTIONED JUST GOING TO THE GAS STATION TO FILL UP.
THERE'S ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPONENTS AND THE LIKE TO IT THAT KIND OF, UH, DICTATE WHERE WE CAN AND CAN PUT CHARGERS AND GET THOSE COMPONENTS IN THERE.
UH, BUT WE'RE AWARE OF IT AND TRYING TO MAKE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THOSE COMPONENTS.
SOLID WASTE, UH, SOLID METHODOLOGY CHANGE.
UH, SO IN THE THREE, UH, PREVIOUS YEARS OF THE INVENTORY, UH, THE, IT WAS VERY RELIANT ON A VERY BROAD AS ASSUMPTION ON HOW FULL EACH ONE OF THE, UH, TRASH RECEPTACLES ACROSS THE CITY WERE.
AND THEN APPLYING AN EMISSION FACTOR BASED TO A BROAD ASSUMPTION OF WHERE THAT'S AT THE CHANGE FOR 2022 WAS THAT WE HAVE DIRECT SPEND DATA ON HOW MUCH WE SPEND FOR PATRIOT DISPOSAL AND WASTE MANAGEMENT AND A DIFFERENT EMISSION FACTOR GETS APPLIED TO THE SPEND DATA, UH, TO GET IT ALIGNED WITH PROTOCOLS AND THE LIKE.
SO THERE'S A SLIGHT METHODOLOGY CHANGE THERE.
ALL OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES, UH, HAVE NOT HAD ANY METHODOLOGY CHANGES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
SO SOME TAKEAWAYS FROM OUR MUNICIPAL SIDE OF THINGS IS THE EMISSIONS, UH, FROM OUR ELECTRICAL GRID HAS IMPROVED.
UH, AS OWEN TOUCHED ON THE ARIZONA NEW MEXICO ELECTRICAL GRID HAS SEEN EMISSION FACTOR IMPROVEMENTS.
THREE YEARS AGO IT WAS 900, OVER 950 POUNDS OF CO2 PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
UH, THAT'S DOWN 820 POUNDS PER, UH, PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
SO, UH, THE OVERALL GRID IS GETTING CLEANER, HELPING DRIVE, UH, DOWN REDUCTION DRIVE REDUCTIONS AS WELL.
AS WELL AS WE HAD A SLIGHT DECREASE IN OVERALL PURCHASE ELECTRICITY AND A DECREASE IN CONSUMPTION AND NATURAL GAS, UH, BETWEEN 2022 AND 21.
SO THOSE COMPONENTS HELPED KIND OF CONTINUE THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
UH, AND THEN THE IMPACT OF THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS, UH, PROGRAM WAS FELT WITHIN THE THREE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF, UH, OF THE COUNCIL SIGNING ONTO THAT IN LATE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
UH, SO OUT OF OVERALL ELECTRICITY USAGE ACROSS THE CITY, 18% OF IT CAN BE ACCOUNTED FROM COMING FROM THE WASTEWATER SOLAR FARM.
9% IS ACCOUNTED AS COMING FROM HOOVER DAM.
ANOTHER 5% IS FROM, UH, UH, ASSOCIATION WITH THE APS IS GREEN BLOCKS.
AND THEN THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM, WHICH KICKED OFF IN OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER.
AND THAT THREE MONTH TIMEFRAME HELPED COVER ANOTHER 13% OF RENEWABLES FOR OUR ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION.
SO OVERALL, ELECTRICITY, UH, CONSUMPTION BEING ACCOUNTED FOR HAS INCREASED FROM 31% IN 21 TO 45% IN 2022.
SO THE CHALLENGES, AS I MENTIONED, ARE LARGELY KIND OF WITHIN THE FLEET, UH, AND EMPLOYEE COMMUTING.
AND THEN OUR FUEL PURCHASES HAVE REMAINED STATIC.
AND THEN THE, UH, DISTANCE AWAY THAT PEOPLE LIVE, UM, COMMUTE HERE, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE RESPONDING TO THE SURVEYS HAVE KIND OF MADE FLEET AND, UH, EMPLOYED COMMUTING REMAIN RELATIVELY STATIC FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
AND THEN GRANULAR WASTE, UH, DATA IS STILL, UH, CHALLENGING.
UH, CUZ WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO SPEND, LIKE HOW EFFECTIVELY HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY COLLECTING A SET OF ASSUMPTION OFF OF HOW FULL OF RECEPTACLE MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
AND THEN, SO THE OTHER COMPONENT WE HAVE HERE IS FOR THE COMMUNITY LEVEL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
SO, UH, OUR 2022 NATURAL GAS DATA HAS BEEN, UH, DELAYED, UH, A LITTLE BIT, UH, WITH OUR MAIN PROVIDER UNISOURCE.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT CHANGES ON, ON THEIR END.
UM, AND SO THAT'S BEEN DELAYED TO TOUCH.
SO WE'RE USING 2021 DATA IN ITS PLACE.
UH, SO WE'RE UTILIZING THE BEST AVAILABLE DATA THAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
AS I SAID, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THAT DATA CUZ IT NEEDS MORE THIRD PARTY COLLABORATION TO GET IT FOR COMMUNITY AT SCALE AND NEEDS COLLABORATION WITH APS UNISOURCE, UH, ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, OAK CREEK WATER COMPANY, UH, AS WELL AS THE SEDONA AIRPORT HAS OFTEN PROVIDED US INPUT FOR THE EMISSIONS FACTORS FOR THE, UM, COMMUNITY LEVEL.
SO SIMILARLY TO WHERE, UH, WE'RE AT, UM, KIND OF THAT DIS DISTRIBUTION AND WHERE IT IS FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT COMMUNITY EMISSIONS IN 2022 ARE AT 152, A LITTLE OVER 152,000 METRIC TONS WITH IN 21.
THE PRIMARY, UH, CONTRIBUTORS TO THAT WERE RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY, UH, TOOK THE TOP SPOT ON-ROAD TRAVEL WAS VERY CLOSE BEHIND, AND THEN COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY.
UH, AND THEN THESE NEXT TWO ARE NATURAL GAS COMPONENTS.
SO IN 2022, UH, THE SAME TOP CATEGORIES ARE STILL THERE.
IT'S JUST THE DISTRIBUTION KIND OF GETS SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT ON ROAD TRAVEL
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TOOK UP 26% AND THEN RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY AND NATURAL GAS SYSTEMS FALL CLOSELY BEHIND.UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THE COLORS RIGHT WITH THE NUMBERS HERE.
THE, THE 3% IS THE RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE.
AND SO BROKEN DOWN, UH, AS A, AS A WHOLE, THE BASELINE, UH, THAT WE HAD REVISED FOR THE 2018 IS A LITTLE OVER 162,000.
WE SEE THIS DROP IN 2020 PANDEMIC HITS, ACTIVITY DECLINES, AND WE SEE AN ASSOCIATED, UH, REDUCTION IN ADMISSIONS THERE.
UH, WHEN WE HAD PRESENTED A COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 28, WE WERE UTILIZING, OR SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, WE WERE UTILIZING 2020 VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL DATA BECAUSE THAT WAS THE MOST RECENT THAT WE HAD FROM ADOT, WHICH, UH, MADE THIS NUMBER THAT WE PRESENTED ABOUT 147,000 OR SO AT THAT TIME.
BUT ADO T'S BEEN ABLE TO UPDATE THEIR DATABASE.
UH, AND SO WE'VE UH, WE'RE ABLE TO READJUST THAT NUMBER AND SO THAT NUMBER GETS US BACK, UH, TO ABOUT 155,000, UH, OR SO METRIC TONS.
AND THEN WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A ESTIMATED ABOUT 6% DOWN FROM WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT BASELINE.
UH, AND THAT'S LARGELY CUZ THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL DATA HAS SPIKED, UH, FROM YEAR TO YEAR, UH, THROUGH THE COMPONENTS THERE.
AND THEN KIND OF SHOW THAT FROM, UH, SIMILAR TO THE MUNICIPAL WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE COMMUNITY IN EACH CATEGORY, UH, WHOOPS, KEEP BOUNCING AROUND HERE.
UH, THE ON TRAVEL SEES THAT DECLINE IN 2020 RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC, BUT THEN, UH, THIS SPIKE HAPPENS AND THAT FOLLOWS ALONG WITH THAT ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DATA, UH, THAT WE'VE, UH, THAT WE HEAR FROM THE CHAMBER AND THE LIKE WHERE, UH, MORE VISITATION, MORE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.
THAT'S A LEADING TO THIS, THIS DRIVE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN VEHICLE MILES.
BUT RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY AND COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY ARE SEEING THOSE DECLINES, AS I MENTIONED FROM THE EG GRID, UH, EMISSION FACTORS IMPROVING AS WELL AS THE REDUCTION IN OVERALL CONSUMPTION ASSOCIATED WITH SEDONA.
UH, AND SO THOSE HAVE DECLINED.
AND THEN RESIDENTIAL NATURAL GAS HAS SINCE, UH, WE'RE RELYING ON, UH, 2021 DATA.
THOSE ARE THE SAME FROM WHAT WE REPORTED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
AND THEN THERE IS A SLIGHT DECREASE WITHIN AVIATION BETWEEN THE YEARS.
JUST ONE SECOND BEFORE YOU MOVE ON FROM THAT.
THE RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY WOULD INCLUDE SHORT TERM RENTALS, BUT THE COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY WOULD INCLUDE HOTELS.
SO IT IS, UH, RELIANT ON APSS, UH, DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES VERSUS COMMERCIALS.
SO, UH, IF IT'S A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT IS GETTING THE RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY RATES SUPPLIED TO 'EM, THEN APS IS REPORTING THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DISTINGUISH WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
LIKE I, I WOULD DOUBT THAT THEY DO.
WHY WOULD THE RESIDENTIAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THE RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY IS GOING DOWN? UH, SO THE RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY IS GOING DOWN PARTLY BECAUSE THE EMISSION FACTORS ARE IMPROVING, UH, AS WELL AS THE OVERALL, UH, RESIDENTIAL SECTOR OR WHAT WAS REPORTED TO US FROM APS HAD A DECLINE IN THE, IN THE ENERGY USAGE, WHY THAT DECLINE IS BEING DRIVEN.
I DON'T A HUNDRED PERCENT KNOW WHY, UH, THE BEHAVIORAL CHANGE OR WHY THAT WOULD, WHY THAT WOULD OCCUR FOR THAT THOUGH.
PETE, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GOOD.
I AM, UH, COMPOSING A QUESTION FOR A LITTLE BIT LATER, MAAM.
UM, AND SO SOME TAKEAWAYS WE HAD, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY LEVEL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IS THAT WE STILL SEE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE ARIZONA NEW MEXICO GRID.
WE'RE REALLY RELYING ON SOME DATA THAT HAS SOME LAG TIME BEHIND IT.
IN PARTICULAR, OUR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AT THE A DOT DATABASE.
UH, AND BUT WE SEE THAT, UH, VMT INCREASE THOUGH LARGELY KIND OF DROVE THE EMISSIONS INCREASE THAT WE SAW, UM, BETWEEN THE YEARS OR WHATNOT OR DROVE, UH, THERE WAS AN INCREASE WITHIN VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL THAT ASSOCIATED EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED EMISSIONS WITH IT.
AND THEN SOLID WASTE EMISSION ESTIMATION CONTINUED TO BE BROAD ESTIMATES JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE LACK OF GRANULAR DATA AT THE, UM, MEAN AT THE VENDOR LEVEL THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE TO US ON HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM SEDONA.
UH, SOME OF THE REPORTED NUMBERS WILL GET, UH, THE WASTE HAULERS WILL REPORT IT AT THE LANDFILL, BUT THEN BEING ABLE TO SEPARATE IT, HOW MUCH CAME FROM COTTONWOOD, HOW MUCH CAME FROM SEDONA, LIKE, IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO PARSE.
AND SO WE STILL KIND OF END UP WITH THESE BROAD ESTIMATES, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, THE RESIDENTS WE'RE BRINGING ON SOLAR.
AND SO SINCE THE START OF THE, THE ADOPTION OF THE CAP IN JULY 21 THROUGH WHEN WE PULLED THE DATA IN FEBRUARY 23, THERE HAVE BEEN 189, UH, RESIDENTIAL SOLAR PERMITS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT'S A TOTAL OVER 1800 KILOWATT HOURS WORTH OF SOLAR.
AND WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THOSE RESIDENTS ARE, UH, AVOIDING, UH, ROUGHLY 1600 METRIC TONS WORTH OF EMISSIONS ON A YEARLY BASIS.
SO THE RESIDENTS INSTALLING THESE SOLAR PANELS IS REALLY HELPING, UH, KIND OF DRIVE SOME ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS OR AVOIDANCE THERE.
SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THEIR SUCCESSES.
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BRIAN, THANK YOU MAYOR BRYCE, WHERE DO YOU SEE THINGS GOING WITH RESIDENTIAL SOLAR AS FAR AS, UH, COST CURVE, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING, RIGHT? ARE WE MOVING DOWN AND IT'S GETTING MORE AFFORDABLE? ARE WE STILL RELIANT ON TAX CREDITS, CO-OPS, THINGS LIKE THAT? CAN YOU, UH, SHARE A LITTLE CRYSTAL BALL ON THAT? UH, YEAH.SO WE'RE STILL RELYING ON SOME TAX CREDITS AND CO-OPS, UH, THE OVERALL, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THE SOLAR, UM, WHEN THEY, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT AT SCALE, IT'S CHEAPER TO DO AT THE RESIDENTIAL LEVEL.
IT'S KIND OF FLUCTUATED FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND INSTALLATION COSTS HAVE KIND OF FALLEN IN LINE WITH, UH, WHERE WE'VE SEEN CONSTRUCTION COSTS AS A WHOLE HAVE JUST KIND OF GONE, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF INCHED UP.
SO IT'S, UH, THE BEING ABLE TO GET THE FEDERAL TAX CREDITS AND INCENTIVES ARE KIND OF HELPING WITH THAT BUFFER.
BUT WE'RE STILL, UH, KIND OF RELYING ON, ON PUSHES THERE AND ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES TO BRING THOSE SOLAR COMPONENTS ON.
UH, BUT FROM THE LONG TERM ENERGY UTILITY SAVINGS, ULTIMATELY THE SOLAR PANELS ARE ALL GETTING TO THAT ROI COMPONENT.
IT'S JUST KIND OF ELONGATING A LITTLE BIT, UH, WITHIN THAT.
OKAY, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING, UH, OF A CHANGE WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR RETURNING MORE? UH, UH, WAS IT BONUSES OR, UH, REBATES? REBATES, UH, TO THE PUBLIC? CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT FROM, UH, FROM ARIZONA YEARS AGO.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE, IF WITH THE NEW LEGISLATURE OR SOME NEW IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT'S GONNA BE CHANGING.
UH, PERSONALLY, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DIRECT THING FROM THE LEGISLATURE ON IT.
UH, A LOT OF THE DRIVE FOR THE STATE LEVEL SEEMS TO BE COMING OR THAT'S COMING TO THE STATE IS FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
UM, COMPONENTS, I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SPEAK EFFECTIVELY AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AT THE MOMENT.
BUT EVEN THE FEDERAL, IT'S, HAS IT BEEN INCREASED? YES.
AND SO WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SOME OF OUR MUNICIPAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE, THE LAST FEW MONTHS SINCE WE LAST PRESENTED.
AND SO WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOME, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAD WITH THE INDUSTRIAL ASSESSMENT CENTER WITH ASU.
SO LAST YEAR, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL ASSESSMENT CENTER, UM, PROVIDED A AUDIT AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT CITY HALL COMPLEX, AND THE FINAL REPORTS WERE RECEIVED JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE.
UH, WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL HERE AT COUNCIL.
AND SO 9 26 23, OH, I MISSED THE, I APOLOGIZE ON THE, THE DATE
UH, SO THE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WERE DERIVED, UH, FROM THE REPORT INCLUDE HVAC UPGRADES AT THE WASTEWATER FACILITY, UH, THAT, UH, WERE INSTALLED, UH, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE'RE ESTIMATING, UH, ANNUAL SAVINGS THERE, UH, THAT WERE GENERATED.
THE ANNUAL SAVINGS NUMBERS ARE GENERATED FROM THE ASU AUDITS REPORT.
UH, SO THEY'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $1,300 ANNUALLY FOR THAT.
AND A BACKWATER FILTRATION SYSTEM, UH, WHICH IS POTENTIAL CIP PROJECT THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR FY 24TH WASTEWATER, UH, WHERE THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS, UH, FOR THE CHANGE OF THAT SYSTEM IS RIGHT AROUND $42,000 ANNUALLY.
AND THEN HVAC CONTROLS, UH, AT BREWER COMPLEX.
AND SO IT KIND OF SPURRED AS WHAT WE HAD AT THE CITY HALL COMPLEX, HOW CAN WE IMPLE IMPLEMENT THINGS AT THE BREWER COMPLEX TO GET 'EM ON THE SAME WAY, UH, SAME PAGE ON IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY AND ABILITY, UH, TO INTEGRATE THOSE CONTROLS.
AND THEN WE'RE CURRENTLY TESTING SOME PROGRAMMABLE PLUG TIMERS AS WELL AS POWER STRIPS, UH, THAT CAN BE PLUGGED IN INDIVIDUAL WORKSTATIONS TO HELP, UH, SEE EFFECTIVENESS AND HOW WE CAN DO THAT ON AN INDIVIDUAL WORKSTATION BASIS.
SO PRICE, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, H V A C SYSTEM THAT'S HERE IN, IN THIS COMPLEX.
I CAN TELL YOU IN THIS BUILDING, IT'S NOT WORKING.
SO THAT'S REALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS WANTED.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IF IT'S ANY BETTER, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING.
AND I'M SURE THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON MULTIPLE TIMES AND STILL NOT REALLY KEEPING IT A GOOD TEMPERATURE.
SO MOVING FORWARD, IS IT THE INTENT TO BE, IS IT MORE MODERN TECHNOLOGY WE CAN USE? BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WORKING.
MAYOR, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY NOT WORKING? UH, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
IT'S NOT SAYING THE TEMPERATURES.
IT'S NOT YOU GO TO ONE SECTION OF THE BUILDING OR ONE ROOM, IT'S WARM, NEXT ROOM, IT'S COLD.
IT'S JUST NOT, KAREN, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
CAN, BUT IT'S, IT'S, AND EVERYBODY, IT'S LIKE HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING, THEY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CLERK HAS TO GO AROUND AND RESET THE THERMOSTATS CONSTANTLY BECAUSE IT, IT'S ALWAYS SET BACK TO IT, IT REVERTS BACK.
MAYOR, PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 30 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO ALL ARE COMFORTABLE AT DIFFERENT TEMPERATURES.
SO I'M SITTING HERE TELLING JOANNE I'M FREEZING.
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IS ASKING HER TO TURN IT DOWN.SO THAT'S PART, THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE.
THIS IS ALSO AN EXTREMELY OLD COMPLEX.
SO WE DID GO THROUGH, UM, UH, UH, MID-STATE ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
WE DID REPLACE SOME THINGS INCLUDING HVAC, RIGHT? BUT THE ACTUAL DUCT WORKED THROUGH THE COMPLEX HAS ALSO PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF REMODELS WHERE WE'VE CHOPPED UP THE BUILDING, THEN WE'VE OPENED UP SPACES.
AND THEN, SO I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE SOME SORT OF BIGGER PICTURE ISSUES THAT IF WE DID HAD ANOTHER, UM, COMPANY COME IN AND EVALUATE SOME OF THAT, I THINK SOME OF THE DOORS AND WINDOWS IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE NOW THAT ARE IN PROCESS COULD HELP THAT.
LIKE, WE'RE NOT PARTICULARLY ENERGY EFFICIENT IN YET SOME OF OUR AREAS, AND I'M NOT THE FACILITIES PERSON.
I DON'T HAVE ALL THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS, BUT I DO KNOW OVER THE YEARS WITH ALL THE MODIFICATIONS AND JUST THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WITH KIND OF DIFFERENT COMFORT LEVELS, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE AC ON AND A SPACE HEATER, AND THAT'S WHO DOES, THAT'S THE REALITY.
IS THIS THE TIME FOR ME TO ASK IF ANYBODY ELSE IS WARM IN HERE? NO
BUT IF I GO INTO CALM DEV AND I WALK THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING, YOU COULD FEEL THE DIFFERENCE.
IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN, IT'S EITHER HIGH OR LOW.
IT'S NOT EVEN A, AND IT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE CHOPPED UP, RIGHT? SO WHEN I SAY THE DUCT WORK, RIGHT, IT'S EVEN THAT BUILDING IN PARTICULAR, IT'S NOT SEPARATED.
THAT'S SERVED DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUILDING, AND IT'S NOT SEPARATED IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD THINK IS ALL THAT INTUITIVE EITHER.
SO I, I DO THINK THERE'S ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL THERE.
HOPEFULLY WE HAVE, AND TECHNOLOGY'S GETTING BETTER.
WE COULD, WE COULD WORK TOWARD THAT.
SO I DON'T WANT TO BE LATE TO BE LATER THE, UH, THE TOPIC, BUT ANYONE ELSE WANT TO DISCUSS? PETE'S? HE'S STILL LOOKS LIKE HE'S LATER.
AND SO, UH, I HAVE JUST ONE QUICK, BY ALL MEANS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, I, FROM WHAT I HEAR, THE, THE TRAFFIC OR ROADWAY USE NUMBERS COME FROM ADOT BASED ON SOME ALGORITHM THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT ASSIGNING US SOME NUMBER, CUZ THEY DON'T ACTUALLY SIT AND COUNT.
UM, SO IF WE ACTUALLY GET BETTER WITH THE TOURISM AND THE, THE COUNTING THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING FOR, FOR SOME OF OUR PROJECTS, IS THAT GONNA MAKE, DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON, ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE COULD USE OR? I THINK IT COULD, IF WE HAVE MORE FINITE DATA YEAH.
FOR OUR SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC TO SEDONA AND SPECIFIC AREAS, UHHUH AND TRIPS, UHHUH, WHICH IS GONNA BE PART OF THIS ANALYSIS, I THINK THAT COULD PROBABLY BE USEFUL FOR B BRYCE AND HIS TEAM.
UM, I CAN SPEAK ON SOME OF THE ECONOMIC NUMBERS.
UM, SO IF WE HAVE THE ROUGH YOU BE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC, WE HAVE THE ROUGH, ROUGH ESTIMATE OF LIKE YOU SAID, A DOT, BUT EIGHT, IT'S LIKE EIGHT 3 MILLION OF TOURISTS COME IN A YEAR.
SO IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN, MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S AN ESTIMATE.
ACTUALLY THREE PICK A NUMBER TODAY.
YEAH, THREE TO, UH, 5,000 TOURISTS COMING EVERY DAY.
AND THEN WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THERE'S 5,000 PEOPLE COMING IN JUST TO WORK IN SEDONA.
AND THEN WE HAVE LIKE ROUGHLY THE, OR JUST OUR ROUGH NUMBER OF THE, WHO LIVE HERE.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW MANY.
SO IF YOU COULD IMAGINE THOSE 8,000 PEOPLE ESTIMATE OF COMING IN EVERY DAY, TOURISTS DEFINITELY, IF WE HAVE MORE SHARED USE PATHS AND SIGNAGE AND UM, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, THOSE ABSOLUTELY WILL IMPACT THE SUSTAINABLE TOURISM BATHROOMS. YEAH.
AS WE MOVE INTO MORE TRANSIT MM-HMM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A SURVEY OF STAFF, WHICH STAFF WHO LIVES OUT OF TOWN HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SO THE, THE SURVEY THAT'S CONDUCTED WILL ASK THEM WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE, OKAY.
UH, THEY DRIVE AND THEN WE APPLY THE, SO IF WE HAD HOUSING IN THE TOWN, THERE WOULD BE, THAT WOULD CUT THE FLEET, THE COMMUTER FROM THE VERY, VERY FAR DOWN.
SO EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S CONNECTED.
UH, AND SO ADDITIONALLY, SO TO MOVE AWAY FROM OUR, OUR BUILDING, UH, ENVELOPE COMPONENTS, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ZACH NOW TO TOUCH ON SOME
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ELECTRIC, ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPONENTS.UM, SO THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM HAS BEEN MAKING SOME GREAT STRIDES, UM, TO INCREASE THE, UH, PUBLIC FACING EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN SEDONA.
UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED, UH, SIX ADDITIONAL, UH, PUBLIC FACING CHARGERS.
UH, FOUR OF THOSE, UH, ARE DC FAST CHARGERS.
THOSE ARE THE FIRST ONES, UM, WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, INSTALLED AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HUB.
UH, SO THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE, BEEN INSTALLED FOR A COUPLE MONTHS, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO STOP BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.
UM, BUT THESE CHARGERS ARE CAPABLE OF RECHARGING, UH, AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE FROM AROUND 10% CHARGE TO 80% IN AROUND 30 MINUTES.
UM, AND THE INSTALLATION OF THESE CHARGERS CAME AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
UM, AND THEY WERE INSTALLED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ELECTRIFY AMERICA AND APS.
AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO INSTALLED, UH, TWO, TWO, UH, TWO LEVEL TWO CHARGERS, UM, AT SUNSET PARK, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH APSS, UH, TAKE CHARGE PROGRAM.
AND AGAIN, CAME AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN, EXCUSE ME, THE LEVEL TWOS, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET FROM 10% TO 80% ON THE LEVEL TWOS? UH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND MORE ON, UH, HOW BIG YOUR BATTERY IS.
UM, BUT THOSE TEND TO TAKE FAR LONGER IN THE TERMS OF MULTIPLE HOURS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO, UH, OH, EXCUSE ME.
UH, SO TODAY, UH, WE'VE UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, NINE PUBLIC FACING CHARGER CHARGING STATIONS IN THE CITY.
UM, ADDITIONAL CHARGERS CAN BE FOUND AT, UH, JORDAN ROAD AND UPTOWN, UM, AND AT CITY HALL AS WELL.
UM, SO, UH, THIS IS JUST A, THIS CHART IS JUST A, UH, UH, DATA SET, UM, FROM, UH, OUR CHARGEPOINT CHARGERS.
UM, AND HERE WE CAN SEE THAT, UH, WE HAVE A PRETTY STEADY UPTICK, UH, IN UNIQUE USERS.
SO WHAT'S A UNIQUE USER? BASICALLY, UH, THESE ARE JUST FIRST TIME USERS.
IF YOU WERE TO GO PLUG IN YOUR VEHICLE AT ONE OF THESE CHARGEPOINT CHARGERS, YOU ARE NOW CONSIDERED A UNIQUE USER.
IF YOU CAME BACK A FEW DAYS LATER TO CHARGE AGAIN, YOU'RE NO LONGER CONSIDERED A UNIQUE USER.
THESE ARE ALL BRAND NEW USERS, AND WE'VE HAD A REALLY GREAT, UH, SHOWING OVER THE LAST, UH, FEW YEARS OF, UH, NEW, NEW PEOPLE COMING TO OUR CHARGING, UM, CHARGING POINTS.
UH, AND IN THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, IS JUST A, SORRY.
UM, JUST SAY, UH, UH, UH, THIS, THIS CHART IS JUST SHOWING US A, AGAIN, A MAJOR UPTICK IN TERMS OF, UH, ENERGY USE.
SO JUST ACROSS THE BOARD WITH USERS AND ENERGY USE, WE ARE GETTING A LOT MORE USE OUT OF OUR CHARGERS, UM, OVER TIME.
THANK YOU, MAYOR ZACH, I GO BACK TO THAT ONE SLIDE.
I'M WAS, I'M JUST SORT OF GENERALLY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW'S THE UPTAKE ON THE POSSE, GROUND SUPERCHARGERS DO IS, I KNOW THEY'VE ONLY BEEN THERE A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT DO WE SEE USE, ARE WE GETTING USE? SO, UM, THO WE DO.
UM, BUT I'LL SAY THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THOSE.
UM, SO IF, UM, YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT THE, UH, THE USAGE, UH, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO, UM, ELECTRIFY AMERICA, UM, APS TO GET TO THOSE DATA.
SO ARE THEY PEOPLE THAT USE THAT? ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN THIS NUMBER OF UNIQUE USERS DATA? THE, THE, THE CHARGERS, THE DATA THAT'S HERE ARE JUST FOR THE CHARGEPOINT CHARGERS.
AND SO THE, THE ONES THAT ARE AT, UH, POSSE GROUNDS, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THE DATA FROM ELECTRI.
I SEE THERE DATA FROM CHARGEPOINT STATION.
A ANECDOTALLY WHERE WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF AS WELL AS APS STAFF, IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY ARE REALLY HEAVILY USED.
I JUST, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU AT THE MOMENT FOR THAT.
I WAS CURIOUS ON THIS CHART ABOUT THE UP THE, THE, UH, NUMBER OF UNIQUE VIEWS USERS, AND IT JUMPS UP THERE IN APRIL OF 23.
DID WE OPEN SOME NEW ONES RIGHT THEN? OR DID SOMETHING HAPPEN? YEAH, SO THIS, UH, VERY FAINT BOTTOM GREEN LINE.
UNFORTUNATELY, CHARGEPOINT DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO ADJUST A LOT OF THEIR, THEIR GRAPHS.
UH, BUT THE VERY FAINT GREEN LINE SHOWS, UH, THERE'S A SLIGHT UPTICK HERE AT IN THAT APRIL MARK, AND THAT'S WHEN THE CHARGEPOINT CHARGERS AT SUNSET PARK WERE SUNSET, SUNSET, SUNSET.
UH, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING GOING FORWARD TO TRACK ALL OF THE USERS IF WE CAN.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST A CHARGE POINT.
ONCE IF, IF WE CAN, THAT'D BE THERE.
GOOD VICE MAYOR, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE PLANS ARE.
YOU KNOW, THE SHORT TERM PLANS ARE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CHARGERS I, FROM A, UH,
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COMMUNITY FACING PERSPECTIVE OR FOR INTERNALLY YES.UH, COMMUNITY FACING, FOR COMMUNITY FACING.
UH, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD SPOT AT THE MOMENT.
CAUSE WE HAVE, UH, THE CHARGERS AT POSSE GROUNDS, WE HAVE 'EM AT SUNSET.
WE HAVE 'EM IN UPTOWN AND AT CITY HALL, UH, AS WELL AS THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY KEEPS A TAB ON THE AMOUNT OF CHARGERS THAT ARE JUST DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE CITY.
AND THERE ARE EVEN MORE CHARGERS THAT ARE AT, UH, RESORTS AND OTHER BUSINESSES.
AND SO I'D SAY FROM A COMMUNITY FACING STANDPOINT, UH, OVERALL IN OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, I'D SAY WE'RE, WE'RE DOING FAIRLY WELL, UH, FOR ANY PROPOSALS FOR DIFFERENT, UM, PARKING INITIATIVES OR WHATNOT THAT MIGHT BE UPTON ALIKE.
WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS TO BE ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD, UM, ADDITIONAL DC FAST CHARGES WITH ELECTRIFY AMERICA.
UM, BUT WE'RE JUST, UH, AT THAT COMPONENT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEFINITIVE WITH THAT.
SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE DON'T, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER PLAN THAT WE HAVE SHORT TERM FOR COMMUNITY FACING ONES.
SO IS THERE A LIST, AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC BESIDES THE MUNICIPAL CHARGERS? DO THEY, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE CHARGERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ACROSS THE CITY? I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL ONES WOULD BE PER POTENTIALLY LIMITED TO LIKE, AT A LODGING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING THERE, BUT MAYBE THAT WOULD FACTOR INTO THEIR DECISION ABOUT WHERE TO STAY.
UH, SO WE DO NOT HAVE A LIST THAT'S POSTED, UM, ON THE WEBSITE OR ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT.
WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, PROCURE THAT FROM OUR, THE DOE, UM, THE DOE LIST AND BE ABLE TO COMPILE THAT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE.
I WILL SAY ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTRIC OR EV OWNERS, UM, THEY GENERALLY HAVE ACCESS TO DA DATABASES SHOWING THEM WHERE THE CLOSEST CHARGER IS.
UM, SO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY MIGHT NOT HAVE, UH, A LIST ON OUR WEBSITE MM-HMM.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING THEIR TRIP, RIGHT.
UM, SO WHILE WE WERE ON THE TOPIC OF ELECTRIFICATION IN OUR TRANSPORTATION SECTOR, UH, WE HAVE OUR NEW BIKE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I STILL WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ON THE PRIOR SLIDES.
I'M LOOKING AT THE, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE, THE TWO SLIDES OF NUMBER OF UNIQUE USERS AND ENERGY USE.
AND MY INTERPRETATION LOOKING AT THAT IS THAT BASICALLY ALL THE ENERGY USE IS IN FACT FROM UNIQUE USERS BECAUSE THERE'S NO REALLY ACCUMULATING MONTHLY GROWTH IN USE OF ENERGY.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL TOURISTS, UM, MOST LIKELY MAKING USE OF THESE CHARGERS.
UH, AND LIKE A HIGH POINT MONTH IS 150 UNIQUE DRIVERS.
SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FIVE CHARGES A DAY.
IS WHAT'S OCCURRING ACROSS ALL OF THE PUBLIC FACING CHARGERS IN TOWN RIGHT NOW? IS THAT A REASONABLE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT I SEE IN THESE TWO GRAPHS? IN TERMS OF THE, THE AMOUNT OF CHARGES THAT'S, UH, THE SESSION.
WE, I CAN PULL ANOTHER CHART ON SESSION LENGTHS, UH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE DEPENDENT IF THAT PERSON COMES AND HAS LIKE A 10 MINUTE CHARGE OR COMES BACK AND HAS A 20 MINUTE CHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE COMPONENTS, WOULD BE BUILDING THE COMMUNICATIVE POINT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT OUT THERE LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THE CHARGES AND, AND CHARTING WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE HAD FIVE USES FOR THAT DAY AT THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
BUT THE ASPECT OF WHETHER MOST LIKELY THEIR TOURISM IS BUILT WITHIN THAT CAUSE I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT PARK LOCATIONS THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE VISITING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE LIKE THERE.
SO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BREAK DOWN ON LIKE SESSION LENGTHS AND TO GO FURTHER DETAIL WITH YOU, WE CAN GET YOU THAT DATA, BUT I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU AT THE MOMENT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO GO THERE AND THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA LINE OF QUESTIONING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP IN THESE TWO GRAPHS.
AND AGAIN, TO ME WHAT I SEE IS, IS THAT UNIQUE DRIVERS ARE IN FACT THE ONLY USERS OF ENERGY BY AND LARGE, AND THERE'S ROUGHLY AT MOST FIVE A DAY ON AVERAGE, AND THAT'S ON HIGH MONTHS.
AGAIN, NOT, IT'S NOT A GOTCHA OR ANYTHING ELSE.
I'M JUST, THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION.
AND I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU SAW SIMILARLY, SO THANK YOU, MELISSA.
I'M GONNA TAG ONTO THAT QUESTION.
IT'S FOR PETE'S BIRTHDAY, SO FOR PETE'S BIRTHDAY, BIRTHDAY, BIRTHDAY WEEK.
SO I, THE, I THINK THE OBSERVATION IS PROBABLY NOT ONE THAT SURPRISES YOU AT ALL, THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING ARE CHARGING STATIONS ARE NON-RESIDENTS BECAUSE MOST RESIDENTS WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME PROBABLY CHARGE AT HOME, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY CUZ OF THE RATE AT WHICH
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CHARGE POINT CHARGES YOU, YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE AT HOME.SO THAT BEING THE CASE, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE CITY AND WHETHER OR NOT, NOT THAT'S CHANGING OVER TIME? I I DO NOT HAVE THAT, THAT DATA FOR YOU.
UM, THAT WOULD BE BASED MOST LIKELY YOU COULD TRY TO NARROW THAT DOWN FROM VEHICLE REGISTRATIONS IN THE AREA.
UM, BUT DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SAY AN ADDITIONAL RENTAL CARS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH TO SPECIFICALLY TOS ON THAT OR EVS ADDITIONAL COLLABORATION WITH OUR RENTAL COMPANIES IN THE AREA.
BUT, UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE AT THE MOMENT.
YEAH, IT'S AGAIN, NOT A GOTCHA.
IT WAS JUST, I WAS CURIOUS SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONVERTING THE CITY OVER POTENTIALLY TO MORE EVS, ARE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY DOING THE SAME, THE SAME THING.
SO IT WAS JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR? I DON'T WANNA DIG IN TOO DEEP ON THIS, BRYCE, BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT CHART OF THE, WHAT BRIAN WAS ASKING, THE NUMBER OF UNIQUE USERS, THAT'S THE CHART OF THE NUMBER OF UNIQUE USERS.
DO YOU HAVE A CHART OF THE NUMBER OF TOTAL USERS THAT WOULD ANSWER BRIAN'S QUESTION? UH, WE CAN, UH, I CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
CHARGEPOINT ALLOWS US TO, TO, TO KIND OF SORT THAT BY TOTAL USERS, UNIQUE USERS.
AND LIKE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS, WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET THE POINT ACROSS THAT FROM THE ADOPTION OF THESE CHARGERS, WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN DIFFERENT USERS AND WE'RE SEEING THAT INCREASE IN ENERGY USE.
UH, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT DATA FOR SURE.
DO YOU JUST HAVE A SENSE OF WHETHER THE TOTAL NUMBER OF USERS IS TWICE THE UNIQUE VIEW USERS MORE THAN TWICE LESS THAN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE RIGHT NOW? I DON'T HAVE A SENSE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, ON THE TOPIC OF, UH, ELECTRIFICATION IN OUR TRANSPORTATION SECTOR, UH, WE HAVE OUR NEW, UH, BIKE POOL FLEET.
UM, DEVELOPING A MUNICIPAL BIKE POOL FLEET, UH, WAS AN ACTION ITEM SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
UH, LAST TIME OUR PROGRAM PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, UM, ON THE BIKE POOL FLEET.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THEM ARRIVE, ARRIVED, UH, JUST YET.
UH, THEY HAD JUST BEEN ORDERED, BUT SINCE THEN, UM, SIX E-BIKES, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE SLIDE.
THESE ARE, UH, HALF OF THEM, UM, HAVE BEEN BUILT AND DELIVERED.
UH, WE CREATED A BIKE USE POLICY JUST OUTLINING OF THE RULES AND EXPECTATIONS OF, UH, USE FOR OUR STAFF.
UH, AND WE ALSO DEVELOPED A, A SAFETY TRAINING PROGRAM AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE HAD AROUND 18, UH, CITY STAFF MEMBERS GO THROUGH THE TRAINING PROGRAM SO FAR WITH MORE PEOPLE COMING, UH, COMING DOWN THE LINE.
UM, AND THEN A FEW WEEKS FROM NOW, WE'LL BE, UH, DISPERSING ALL OF THE BIKES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY INTO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
UM, UPON REQUEST, UH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST ALL AT THE BREWER LOCATIONS, SO WE CAN TRAIN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE, THE E-BIKE PROGRAM SUPPORTED TWO LOCAL BIKE COMPANIES.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YES, UH, I MISSED IT.
UM, SO IN THE DEVELOPMENT, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT.
UH, SO IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, THIS WHOLE PROGRAM, WE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING, UM, TWO DIFFERENT LOCAL BIKE COMPANIES.
SO WE HAD THUNDER MOUNTAIN BIKES, UH, HELP US PURCHASE AND DEVELOP AND, AND BUILD, UH, THE E-BIKES.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE SAFETY TRAINING PROGRAM, WE'VE HIRED, UM, THE OWNER OF, UH, SEDONA TOURISMS AND RENTALS TO HELP RUN OUR TRAINING PROGRAMS. UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF MEASURING, UH, THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, CALCULATING MILES TRAVELED ON EACH BIKE EACH MONTH.
UM, EVERY BIKE, UH, THAT WE ORDERED HAS AN INTERNAL ODOMETER, SO WE'LL JUST BE CHECKING THAT AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
UM, AND, UH, SO WHILE WE ARE ON THE TOPIC OF BIKES, OUR PROGRAM ALSO JUST PURCHASED, UH, 18 LARGE BIKE RACKS AND THEY'VE BEEN DELIVERED, UH, LAST WEEK.
UM, AND WITH THE HELP OF RYAN HAYES AND, UH, HIS MAINTENANCE TEAM AND A COUPLE OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE CITY, UH, WE'LL BE INSTALLING ALL THESE BIKE RACKS AROUND THE CITY AT, UH, CITY HALL, UH, SOME OF OUR PARKS, UH, SOME OF OUR TRAILHEADS AND A FEW OTHER LOCATIONS, UM, AND USING A BIKE RACK SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BACK IN 2019.
UH, WE KNOW IT'S A LITTLE OUTTA DATE, BUT, UM, JUST BASED OFF OF THOSE NUMBERS, UH, WE SHOULD BE ALMOST DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF BIKE RACKS IN TOWN.
YOU'RE USING THUNDER MOUNTAIN.
UH, I LOVE THAT YOU'RE USING LOCAL PEOPLE.
WILL THAT CONTINUE WHEN YOU NEED MAINTENANCE TIRES, WHEN IT'S ALL GONNA BE REMAIN LOCAL, RIGHT? YES.
UM, MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE PRETTY LOW, SO WE CAN TEND TO JUST FLAT TIRES COME UP AND YEAH.
YOU, YOU GUYS AREN'T GONNA DO IT, MA.
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DOING IT.UH, AS LONG AS IT'S STAYING, EVERYTHING'S STAYING LOCAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
YES, BUT YOU CHANGE YOUR OWN TIRE.
IS THAT THE 21ST CENTURY? YEAH.
WELL STILL MAINTENANCE AND GEARS AND THINGS BREAK, SO I KNOW HE'S LAUGHING OVER HERE TOO.
YEAH, IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, UH, E-BIKE PROGRAM BY RACKS, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO ABBY HERE TO, UH, JUST TOUCH ON OUR UPCOMING SUSTAINABLE PROCUREMENT POLICY.
I TRIED VERY HARD TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE SEDONA COLORS.
I'LL HAVE TO TRY ONE OUT ONE DAY.
WELL, I WON'T GET A FLAT TIRE, SO
SO WE'VE UPDATED OUR PURCHASING PROCUREMENT POLICY TO INCLUDE A SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK.
THE REASON IS SO WE CAN REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTAL PURCHASES AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH LOCALIZED EQUITABLE PARTIES AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
WE COLLABORATED WITH FINANCE, OUR INTERNAL TEAM AND REEVES TO UPDATE THE POLICY.
WE HAVE CREATED AN EASY TO USE FACT SHEET FOR VENDORS AND WE INTEND TO CREATE MORE WORKSHOPS SO EVERYONE CAN LEARN MORE.
OUR GOAL FOR OUR ANTICIPATED COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT IS FY 24.
THOSE ARE OUR CONCLUDING SLIDES FOR THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS AND I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER BACK TO BRYCE TO TALK MORE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY FOCUSED PROJECTS.
UH, SO OUR COMMUNITY FOCUSED PROJECTS ARE LARGELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY COMPOSTING PILOT PROJECT.
SO THE FIRST ONE WE'LL TOUCH ON IS THE HOME ENERGY, UH, RETROFIT.
SO THAT WAS LAUNCHED IN, UH, MARCH OF 2022 WITH THE OVERALL PROJECT GOALS TO REDUCE UTILITY COSTS FOR, FOR HOMES, IMPROVE LIVABILITY, UH, ALIGN, UH, WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UH, AS WELL AS JUST IMPROVE, UH, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE FOR RESIDENCES.
UH, AND SO IT LARGELY FOCUSES ON KIND OF THE BREAD AND BUTTER, UH, OF HOME IMPROVEMENTS FOR RESPECTIVE HOMES.
IT DOES NOT COVER WINDOWS OR, UH, WINDOW TREATMENTS AND THE LIKE, JUST CUZ THOSE ARE KIND OF THE LOWER RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR ENERGY UTILITY SAVINGS.
AND SO IT PREDOMINANTLY FOCUSES ON, UH, INSULATION REPAIR, DUCT WORK, AIR CEILING, UH, MINI SPLIT OR HEAT PUMP INSTALLATIONS, UH, AS WELL AS LIGHTING OR WEATHER STRIPPING, UH, COMPONENTS.
AND SO FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT, WE HAD, UH, 23 HOUSEHOLDS, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM.
UH, THREE OF THE 23 HOMES, UH, WERE JUST FOR HOME ENERGY AUDITS, WHILE THE REMAINING 15 HOUSEHOLD OR 15 OF THE REMAINING HOUSEHOLDS QUALIFIED FOR FUNDING AT THE FULL FUNDING LEVEL.
UH, AND SO THE PROJECT TO DATE HAS ABOUT 48 HOMES, HAS 48 HOMES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROJECT, AND THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN ALL ACROSS THE CITY LIMITS.
AND WE'RE ESTIMATING, UH, THAT THE ANNUAL UTILITY SAVINGS FOR ALL OF THEM AS A WHOLE IS RIGHT AROUND 17, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THEY'RE AVERAGING RIGHT AROUND 355, UH, DOLLARS PER RESIDENT IS ESTIMATED UTILITY SAVINGS FOR THEM, UH, WITH THE ROI FOR THE HOME HOMEOWNERS IS RIGHT AROUND TWO YEARS.
AND SO, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE OFTEN GONE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE, UH, THE FUNDING ALLOTMENT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THEM AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOMES.
AND 73% OF THE HOMES BEEN IDENTIFIED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THEN 62% OF HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS, UH, REPORTED, UH, WERE REPORTED OVER THE AGE OF 55.
AND SO THE MAP, UH, HERE ON THE RIGHT IS KIND OF SHOWING THE DISTRIBUTION OF WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE CITIES TO GIVE US A SENSE IF THERE'S ARE ANY POCKETS THAT WE'RE KIND OF MISSING OR THAT WE CAN KIND OF TARGET EFFORTS IN THE FUTURE TO GET ADDITIONAL, UH, PARTICIPANT FEEDBACK IN.
SO OVERALL, WE'RE DOING FAIRLY WELL.
UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME POCKETS THERE IN UPTOWN AS WELL AS SOUTHEAST SEDONA AND A LITTLE BIT THERE IN THE MIDDLES THAT, UH, UH, WE COULD DEFINITELY TRY TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL TARGETED, UH, MESSAGING TO GET FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE IN IT.
BUT WE WANTED TO GET A KIND OF A SPATIAL SENSE OF, UH, WHERE PEOPLE WERE PARTICIPATING IN IT.
AND THERE'S A, A LARGE COMPONENT WHERE PEOPLE OR NEIGHBORS ARE REFERRING, UH, FRIENDS OR THE LIKE, UH, TO THE PROGRAM AND IT'S KIND OF DRIVING THOSE COMPONENTS.
UH, BRIAN HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU JUST MENTIONED IN, THANK YOU MAYOR, YOU JUST, UH, MENTIONED INCREASING TARGETED MESSAGING.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? AND, AND I GUESS REALLY WHERE I'M GOING HERE IS, IS HAVE YOU, UH, ENGAGED WITH SAY SEDONA COMMUNITY CENTER OR VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS? CUZ I WOULD IMAGINE THERE'S
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SOME CORRELATION POTENTIALLY WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE USERS OF THEIR SERVICES MIGHT WELL BE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THE RETROFIT PROJECT AND MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE KNOW ABOUT IT.YEAH, SO THE, FOR THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS, OUR, OUR METHOD OF GETTING THE WORD OUT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE TRADITIONAL FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM NEWS RELEASE, UH, AND WEBSITE COMPONENTS.
AND SO AS, UH, WE'RE SEEING WHERE THE GAPS ARE, UH, GETTING ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WITH VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS AND THE LIKE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PROJECT, UH, TO GET THOSE, UH, ADDITIONAL FOLKS THAT MAY NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS TO THE, LIKE, AS, AS THEY'RE GONNA BE OUR NEXT STEP FOR THE PROJECT.
FOR, FOR THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS, IT WAS NOT A FUNCTION OF, OF OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS FOR THAT, BUT FOR THE, IDEALLY FOR THE THIRD ROUND, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MORE TARGETED GETTING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO SHARE THE, THE PROGRAM.
AND CAN YOU COMMENT ON LIKE TO WHAT EXTENT YOU'VE HAD INTERACTION WITH THE HARMONY NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE, UH, SPANISH SPEAKING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY? SO WE'VE HAD KIND OF HIGH LEVEL, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
THE COMPONENT IS THAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET THE APPLICATION TO BE TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH, UH, SO THAT IT CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVELY, UH, WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES.
UH, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY HIGH LEVEL AT THE MOMENT, UH, FOR DIRECT TARGETED OUTREACH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THAT FOR THE THIRD ROUND HERE.
WELL, THERE'S AN INCOME ELIGIBILITY ASPECT OF THIS AS WELL AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SO THAT IF A NEIGHBORHOOD IS DOESN'T HAVE INCOME QUALIFIED PEOPLE, THERE MAY IN FACT BE LESS OF A MARKET, EVEN THOUGH THE ENERGY AUDITS THEMSELVES ARE KIND OF PROVIDED HERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE ENERGY, ANYONE THAT'S WANTING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM HAS TO FI UH, FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, RIGHT? WITH THAT APPLICATION.
THERE IS AN INCOME, UH, DOCUMENT REQUIREMENT FOR IT AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT HAS TO BE A HOMEOWNER.
UH, AND SO WE'RE MISSING ON THE, THE RENTAL COMPONENTS, UH, KNOWINGLY.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO MISSING ON FOLKS AT BEING JUST TO HAVE THAT INCOME MM-HMM.
THAT INCOME DESIGNATION WILL DEF WILL DEFINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING LEVELS.
SO EVERYBODY CAN APPLY AND EVERYBODY, REGARDLESS OF INCOME LEVEL IS ELIGIBLE FOR AN ENERGY AUDIT, CORRECT? YES.
SO, SO THAT THE INCOME LIMITATION IS WHETHER YOU GET MONEY TO PERFORM THE WORK IDENTIFIED IN THE ENERGY AUDIT, RIGHT? YES, EXACTLY.
SO THAT THERE MAY BE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, I GUESS I'M GETTING TO, IN WHICH THE POOL OF APP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKELY TO MAKE USE OF IT ARE GOING TO BE SMALLER THAN THAN OTHERS, WHICH IS WHY HARMONY, I SEE THERE'S KIND OF CLUSTERS HERE, WHICH I THINK SORT OF IS, IS A GOOD INDICATION ACTUALLY OF THE WORD OF MOUTH, OF, OF HOW, OF HOW IT WORKS THAT, THAT PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY CAN REALLY BENEFIT FROM IT HAVE GONE AND DONE IT.
NO, I WAS JUST, WE HAVE ONE, TWO MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO FINISH UP WHAT YOU WERE GONNA SAY.
UH, SO THERE, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS ON THE EFFECTIVENESS AND BEING ABLE TO GET TO ALL THE HOUSES FOR IT MM-HMM.
SO SOME HOMES MORE RECENTLY BUILT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES ARE THE, LIKE, THAT AREN'T REALLY IN NEED OF A HOME ENERGY AUDIT.
UH, SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE REALLY INTERESTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, THE OTHER COMPONENT IS, UH, THE, SO IT'LL NARROW DOWN THE POOL OF AVAILABLE HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE FOR IT.
AND THEN, UH, SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT WITH THE, THE TARGETED, UH, FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THESE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO IT.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LITTLE FACTORS IN PLAY WITH IT THAT KIND OF DICTATE HOW FAR IN THE, THE SCALE OF WHICH WE CAN GO WITH IT, UH, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL JUST KIND OF TIMING, UM, AND SCHEDULING WITH OUR PARTNER FOR THE PROGRAM.
SO OUR PARTNER, COZY HOME LLC IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, WHEN WE HAVE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM IS KIND OF THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REALLY DOING IT IN THE AREA, AND THEY'RE BASED OUT OF FLAGSTAFF.
UH, AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET'EM ALL AND SCHEDULED WITHIN AN APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR AND THE LIKE, UH, IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE, IF WE CAN GO ABOVE THAT, IS REALLY KIND OF STRESSING JUST HOW FAR WE CAN PUSH OUR PARTNER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY GET IT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS WITHIN THE PROJECT SO THEY HAVE A CAP, THERE'S A CAPACITY ISSUE, AND IT'S NOT, THEY CAN'T INFINITELY GROW THIS PROGRAM WITH THAT COMPANY.
OKAY, PETE AND, UH, KATHY AND HOLLY, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I JUST WANT, FIRST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A COUPLE OF NUMBERS ON THE CHART.
FIRST TOP BULLET, 23 HOUSEHOLDS PARTICIPATED, THEN DOWN PROJECT TO DATE, 48 HOMES THROUGH THE PROJECT.
UH, SO THE 23 HOMES, HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE PARTICIPATED, THOSE ARE THE 23 HOMES THAT HAVE MADE
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IT THROUGH THE PROJECT FOR FY 23.UH, AS A TOTAL, THERE HAVE BEEN 48 HOMES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROJECT FOR THE TWO ROUNDS.
SO IN THE FIRST YEAR THERE WERE 25 HOMES, AND THE SECOND YEAR THERE WAS 23 HOMES.
SO THE FIRST YEAR THERE WERE THREE WERE HOME ENERGY AUDITS ONLY.
SO THE, UH, THE THREE OF THE 23.
SO, UH, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, THREE OF THOSE HOMES DISQUALIFY FOR JUST THE HOME ENERGY AUDIT.
DO WE HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR THE 48 HOMES? FOR THE 48 HOMES? UH, I THINK IT'S LIKE SIX.
UH, SO MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR THE PROGRAM, UH, QUALIFY FOR ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE, UH, FOR, FOR FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM.
I'M GONNA, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I WANNA ASK AT THE END OF THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT THE QUESTION I'LL ASK HERE SINCE IT CAME UP WITH, UH, JESSICA, IS JUST HOW DID WE THINK THROUGH THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE FORM REQUIRING FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE IS SCARING AWAY PEOPLE THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE START AND, AND MAYBE THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LOW INCOME, BUT MAYBE THEY ARE, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST THAT QUESTION ABOUT DISCLOSING FINANCIAL STUFF CAN BE SENSITIVE.
AND IF THEY GOT INTO THE AUDIT AND THEY SAW SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL SAVINGS, THEN MAYBE THEY'D BE MORE WILLING TO DISCLOSE THE REST OF THEIR DATA AND ENTER THE PROGRAM.
AND BRYCE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, SO IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR KURT AND I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU THE HEADS UP THAT I WAS ASKING A QUESTION YOU MIGHT HAVE TO ANSWER FIRST, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ON HOW WE THOUGHT THAT STRUCTURE THROUGH, AND BRYCE INDICATED THAT IT MIGHT HAVE MORE TO DO WITH LEGAL SORT OF HOW WE TREAT FOLKS.
I'M SORRY, COUNSEL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.
I SHOULD HAVE HEADS UP TO YOU THAT I WAS GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION.
SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM WHERE THE APPLICATION REQUIRES DISCLOSURE OF FINANCIAL DATA, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOING THE FIRST PART FOR FREE TO THE USER, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
I'M CURIOUS WHETHER WE'VE THOUGHT THROUGH WHETHER THE REQUIREMENT OF FISCAL FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE MIGHT SCARE OFF PEOPLE FROM ENTERING THE PROGRAM, EVEN IF THEY'RE OTHERWISE ELIGIBLE LATER TO BENEFIT FROM THE SUBSIDIZED SOLUTIONS.
SO IF THE PROGRAM WERE STRUCTURED, HEY, JUST COME AND ASK US.
WE'LL DO THE AUDIT, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE RESULTS.
IF IT'S INTERESTING TO YOU AND YOU QUALIFY FOR LOW INCOME STUFF, THEN LET'S CARRY YOU THROUGH THE REST OF THE STUFF.
SO, YEAH, SO, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSELORS, WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, MAYBE IN INTERNALLY.
UM, IT, THE, THE REASON THERE, THERE WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR SOME LEVEL INCOME, IT WAS FOR, FOR GIFT CLASS PURPOSES, WAS THE, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE BEHIND THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS PROVIDING A SERVICE TO ALL CITY RESIDENTS, WE COULD DO THAT WITHOUT AN INCOME REQUIREMENT
UM, BUT WHEN IT GOT TO ACTUALLY PROVIDING MORE THAN JUST THE, THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UM, YOU KNOW, ENERGY AUDIT, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
THAT, I MEAN, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
CITY MANAGER MIGHT, IT WOULD ALL BE BACK INTO YOUR COURT TO THINK THROUGH IT AT SOME OTHER TIME, WHETHER THE PROGRAM IS APPROPRIATELY STRUCTURED.
AND THE REASON THAT WE HAD THIS INTERNAL CONVERSATION WAS EXACTLY THAT.
AND THAT WAS MY EXACT QUESTION TO BOTH BRYCE AND KURT.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SCARE PEOPLE, AND I, I'VE HAD FEEDBACK FROM INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES OF FOLKS WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ENERGY AUDIT, TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD NEVER QUALIFY FOR ANY KIND OF SUBSIDY, BUT STILL HAVE AN INTEREST IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DO TO INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTY FOR ADDITIONAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
SO I THINK AT THE END OF THAT CONVERSATION, I MADE SOME KIND OF COMMENT ABOUT I WON'T SIGN NEXT YEAR'S CONTRACT IF WE'RE REQUIRING IT OF, BUT AGAIN, THAT WILL TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION INTERNALLY.
BUT I, I DO THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING MM-HMM.
SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE ULTIMATELY END UP PUTTING IN THIS WHEN WE DO THE NEXT ROUND OF THE CONTRACT.
YEAH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND, AND COMING UP MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY,
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YOU KNOW, SOME PORTION OF OUR LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS HERE THAT WOULD QUALIFY, BUT DON'T WANNA START THIS PROGRAM HAVING TO DISCLOSE FINANCIAL INFORMATION.I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH HURDLE TO GET THIS FIRST LEVEL OF ANALYSIS ONLY SERVICE.
AND I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING THE, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, RIGHT? WHY ASK FOR FINANCIAL INFORMATION NOT GONNA USE WHEN WE'LL NEVER USE IT AT, AT LEAST FOR THE LOWER INCOME, WE WILL ACTUALLY PROCESS THAT AND UP LIKELY PROVIDING THEM SUBSIDY AND, AND PAYING FOR SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO YEAH, MORE TO MORE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE MY LINE OF QUESTIONING WAS GOING TO GO AS WELL, BECAUSE IT DOES MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE ASKING SOMEBODY TO OPEN THEIR BOOKS, SO TO SPEAK FOR A SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING REGARDLESS OF SOMEBODY'S INCOME ANYWAY.
AND IT COULD BE A, A DISCOURAGEMENT AND IT COULD BE A HURDLE AND IT, IT COULD BE JUST SOMETHING THAT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT'S CERTAINLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUBSIDY, BUT THAT'S AT STAGE TWO.
SO I WOULD VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE, I LIKE HOW YOU'RE THINKING AND THAT YOU'RE ALONG THOSE LINES ALREADY, KAREN, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FIRST LEVEL OF INCOME QUESTIONNAIRE GO AWAY AND ONLY COME IN AT PHASE TWO.
SO JUST TO APPLY SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT HERE, WE HAVE EVALUATED, WHEN I BUILT THE PROGRAM, WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW SIMILAR PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN USED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE, LIKE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WE APPLY AT THE MOMENT IS EXTREMELY STREAMLINED COMPARED TO OTHER, UH, ENTITIES THAT ARE APPLYING.
UH, I'M SURE IF YOU'RE APPLYING AT THE STATE LEVEL OR EVEN GOING THROUGH AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY THROUGH OG THERE'S OVER A 12 PAGE APPLICATION AND EVEN FURTHER INCOME DOCUMENTATION THAT IS BEING REQUIRED.
UH, AT THE MOMENT WE ONLY REQUIRE ONE OF THREE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
IT COULD BE A W2, IT COULD BE A PAY STUB, IT COULD BE A TAX RETURN, IT COULD BE A COPY OF A SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE GAUNTLET, IT JUST HAS TO BE ONE OF THOSE THREE.
THE OTHER COMPONENT OF IT IS, I'M WARY OF TYING UP FUNDS JUST FOR A HOME ENERGY AUDIT COMPONENT FOR IT WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO GO FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.
SO IN TERMS OF GETTING THE FUNDS EFFECTIVELY TO THE FOLKS THAT NEED IT THE MOST, I WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME COMPONENT IN THERE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INSTEAD OF TYING IT UP INTO FOLKS THAT ARE JUST DOING A CURSORY KIND OF EXPLORATION EXPLORATORY MANNER TO IT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THINK THE DIFFICULTY LEVEL IS CERTAINLY ONE THING, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S A STREAMLINED TO PROCESS.
BUT THE OTHER, THE OTHER FACTOR IS JUST, UM, THE INVASIVENESS OF INCOME INQUIRY IS BEFORE THERE, BEFORE IT'S AT A POINT WHERE SOMETHING OF VALUE IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED OTHER THAN THE VALUE THAT'S BEING GIVEN ACROSS THE BOARD OF THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, UM, AUDIT.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE SOMEONE WITH A HIGH INCOME, RIGHT? I WANT THEM TO DO THEIR IMPROVEMENTS AS MUCH AS I WANT SOMEBODY ON, UH, WITH A LOWER LEVEL OF INCOME TO DO THEIR IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I DON'T, I THINK THAT IN THERE MIGHT BE SOME RELUCTANCE TO IF HAVE TO, THEY WOULD FIND OUT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT BENEFIT THEM AND THEREBY US MEANING THE GREATER CITY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA DISCLOSE THEIR INCOME.
I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE, I I, UM, I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY ON THIS.
SO JUST, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM A LONG BACKGROUND IN PLACES THAT MAKE PEOPLE OPEN THEIR BOOKS, I THINK IN A WAY THAT'S NOT YET JUSTIFIABLE, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND STREAMLINING IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I STILL THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT UNTIL THE SECOND PHASE WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT CHANGES THEY MAY WANT TO IMPLEMENT IN THEIR HOME ENERGY.
ARE YOU DONE? YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE THE ON HIS ANSWER.
YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE, THE FEEDBACK THERE.
UH, COUNSELOR ELLA, I THINK THAT MY, MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, IS THERE AN INCOME LEVEL AT A SPOT WHERE THAT PERSON MIGHT JUST BE INTERESTED TO GO TO COZY HOME DIRECTLY AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS ENERGY AUDIT, WHERE THEY WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY TO GET THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING? IF IT'S ONLY AT THAT CENTER DOLLAR MARK TO IT? WHAT IS PRESENTING PREVENTING THE PERSON FROM A HIGHER INCOME HOUSEHOLD FROM JUST GOING COZY HOME DIRECTLY TO GET THAT COMPONENT, UH, BUILT INTO IT? WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE IT, BUT, UH, PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM.
BUT IF YOU ARE A HIGH INCOME EARNER, IS THE, IS THAT THRESHOLD
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FOR THE ENERGY AUDIT A DETERRENT TO JUST CONTACT COZY HOME DIRECTLY? I MEAN, IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, LOVELY FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO COZY HOME DIRECT, BUT THEN WE LOSE THE INFORMATION, THE DATA, THE REPORTING.IT'S NO LONGER PART OF THIS, UM, PROJECT THEN THAT WE CAN TRACK AND KNOW.
AND WHERE THAT'S IMPORTANT IS NOT ONLY JUST THAT WE WANT THE NUMBERS FOR THE KUDOS ARE GREAT, WE, WE DID THIS AND IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW AS A COUNCIL HOW MUCH WE WANT TO FUND THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD.
SO WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING IT.
I, I DO NOT WANNA SEE LOSS, SO I WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH US AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL, WHAT DO WE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE 5,000 DISTINCT PROPERTIES IN, IN SEDONA ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THEIR ENERGY LEVEL IS AND WHERE IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE.
AND SO I'M LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPROVE THAT ACCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TAKE AWAY ANY BARRIERS.
KAREN, YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANNA SHARE OR? NO.
SO I HAVE, OKAY, BUT YES, YOU'RE NEXT.
SO MINE IS ALONG THE SAME LINES, BUT COMING FROM A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PLACE BECAUSE I REACTED THE SAME WAY MY COLLEAGUES DID.
I, IF WE HAD 25 IN ROUND ONE AND 23 IN ROUND TWO, DID WE MAX OUT ROUND TWO? WE WERE $5,000 SHY OF MAXING OUT ROUND TWO.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S A REASON WHY WE DIDN'T, SO I'M NOT FEELING AS CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING ENOUGH FUNDS.
THE, UH, I WOULD SAY, SORRY TO INTERJECT.
THE, THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T GET TO THAT FULL 90 IS, UH, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE WITH COZY HOME, WE JUST FLAT OUT RAN OUT OF TIME TO GET A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL HOMES THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
SO YOU HAVE A WAITING LIST? WE HAVE A SMALL WAIT LIST, YES.
HOW SMALL? UH, WE HAVE FIVE ON IT AT THE MOMENT.
AND WHEN IS THE NEW CYCLE START? UH, WHENEVER WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, GET THE AGREEMENT IN FOR F Y 24, WHICH I'M WORKING ON.
SO YOU DON'T THINK THAT, YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T MAX OUT WAS BECAUSE WE'RE, IT'S A DETERRENT TO FILL OUT YOUR INCOME STATEMENT? I DON'T VIEW THE APPLICATION AS CURRENT FORM AS A, AS ENOUGH OF A DETERRENT FOR, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
I, I THINK THAT WE EITHER SHOULD HAVE A, WE SHOULD TELL PEOPLE UP FRONT THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IF THEIR INCOME LEVEL IS A CERTAIN POINT AND DIRECT PEOPLE AT A HIGHER INCOME LEVEL TO GO DIRECTLY TO, TO COME THROUGH US AND THEN WE'LL GIVE, RIGHT.
SEND THEM TO COZY HOME SO WE CAN TRACK THE DATA AND HAVE THEM PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE ENERGY AUDIT.
WHAT I THINK, AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION, THE FINANCIAL PORTION OF THE APPLICATION.
I, I DEFINITELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I JUST, ANY CHANGES I WOULD WANT TO MAKE, I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CONFER WITH LEGAL AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING LINES UP.
BUT I UNDER, I FULLY GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FOR IT.
ABBY, THANK WANT TO JUMP IN ABBY? UM, THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING UP HERE.
TO ME, IT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR HIGH INCOME OR LOW INCOME, IF SOMEBODY HAS AN INTEREST IN DOING THE AUDIT, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE DONE, BUT I AGREE WITH, UH, THE VICE MAYOR, WE COULD ENCOURAGE THE PEOPLE TO SAY, LISTEN, DO YOU REALLY NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS, THE A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, FEE, OR CAN YOU GO DO IT ON YOUR OWN? HAVE THE AUDIT.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THE AUDIT GO THROUGH YOU GUYS OR WHOEVER, HOWEVER THE FILING IS.
SO WE, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION LIKE KATHY SAYS, BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS IT, THEY'RE IN A NICER HOME OR HIGHER INCOME IF THEY SEE IF THEY CAN PUT THEIR OWN WINDOWS IN, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NEED WINDOWS, DON'T DO WINDOWS.
OH, I'M SORRY, AIR CONDITIONING OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WEATHER STRIPPING OR, AND I'M SURE PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT COZY HOMES.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, FEE, YOU KNOW, FREE FOR US WHEN THEY COULD DO IT ON THEIR OWN.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS, UH, THE ORGANIZATION TO GET THAT DATA.
AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL PUT IN EVERYTHING BUT WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, UH, AND DOORS AND DOORS AND EV AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT BECAUSE THEY SHOULDN'T BE DECLINED JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE HIGHER INCOME BRACKET.
SO, UM, AND I THINK KURT, YOU COULD WORK WITH KURT, WHATEVER YOUR DIRECTION WOULD BE WOULD COMING FROM KURT AND KAREN OR FROM KAREN ACTUALLY, BUT, UH, BUT THAT I, I AGREE.
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TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE THE AUDIT.AND THEN JESSICA, SO I'M LISTENING TO THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION AND I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM.
HOWEVER, UM, I FIND THE FOLLOWING FALLACY IN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO TO SPEAK.
AND THAT IS, UM, I COME AND I WANT TO GET THE ENERGY AUDIT.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT MY INCOME IS BECAUSE I'M NOT FILLING OUT ANYTHING ABOUT INCOME.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW THAT I'M HIGHER INCOME AND THAT YOU WANNA ENCOURAGE ME TO, TO SPEND THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS ON MY OWN IN ORDER TO DO IT UNLESS YOU ASK ME MY INCOME.
SO WE EITHER DO THE AUDIT FOR EVERYONE, RIGHT? AND WE DON'T ASK ANYONE TO PAY FOR IT, OR YOU, YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR THE INCOME UPFRONT.
SO I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT IT'S GREAT TO SAY IF YOU'RE MAKING A MILLION DOLLARS, PLEASE SPEND A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND, AND GET IT DONE YOURSELF.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN.
THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT AWARENESS CAMPAIGN INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU YOUR, UNLESS YOUR HOME IS BRAND NEW, YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER DOING THIS.
AND HERE'S, HERE'S SOME INFORMATION YOU CAN FIND ON THE CITY WEBSITE ON HOW YOU CAN GET IT DONE.
BUT WE EITHER HAVE TO TREAT EVERYONE EXACTLY THE SAME ON ON FINANCE MM-HMM.
IT'S A GREAT YEAH, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT AS WELL.
I JUST WANT, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THE PROCESS OF WHICHEVER DIRECTION THEY GO JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY LIVE IN A CERTAIN PART OF TOWN OR THEIR INCOME IS DIFFERENT.
UH, JESSICA, I THINK AN ENERGY AUDIT FOR EVERYBODY IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROGRAM.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC PROGRAM AND I THINK, UH, THEY HAVE $90,000 AND IT CAN'T GROW NECESSARILY CUZ THERE'S NO MORE CAPACITY IF IN FACT, THE COMPANY RAN OUT OF CAPACITY, WHICH IS WHY THEY DIDN'T SPEND THE FULL 90,000.
THERE'S REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE A REALLY RELUCTANCE TO PEOPLE TO BE APPLYING.
THEY COULD USE ALL THE MONEY UP IF, IF OF THE 90,000.
SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND KAREN HAS SAID SHE'S GONNA SIT DOWN AND THINK ABOUT IT AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A NICE LITTLE PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.
IF WE WANT A DIFFERENT PROGRAM, MAYBE A DIFFERENT PROGRAM SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED.
SO, BUT KAREN SAID SHE'D LOOK INTO IT.
SO, UM, AND, AND CERTAINLY FOUR OF THE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL HAVE INDICATED STRONGLY THEY WANT THE INCOME VERIFICATION TO BE HANDLED IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.
I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT IF IT SCREWS UP A PROGRAM THAT WORKS, THAT ACTUALLY HELPS LOW INCOME PEOPLE FIX UP THEIR HOUSES, WE MIGHT SORT OF TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE DECIDE ON WHAT NEEDS AND DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE ABOUT A PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM IS WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE.
I'M EXCITED THAT ONLY THREE PEOPLE WANTED THE ENERGY AUDIT.
I MIGHT WANT THIS MONEY MYSELF, FRANKLY, TO GO TO LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO NEED TO NEED THOSE ENERGY AUDITS AND NEED TO BE ABLE TO HELP ENABLE TO DO THEM.
AND I JUST AS SOON KEEP IT AT THAT.
IF WE WANT AN ENERGY AUDIT PROGRAM, LET'S DO AN ENERGY AUDIT PROGRAM.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY I THINK WE'RE MESSING UP SOMETHING THAT WORKS.
AND I, I, THEY DON'T, FIRST THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO TAKE IN 50 NEW APPLICATIONS.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, I ABSOLUTELY DO.
UM, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT OFF BY HAVING TO APPLY DON'T APPLY, BUT ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY, DO APPLY, GET THE SUBSIDY AND SAVE ENERGY IN THEIR HOMES.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT MATTER.
UM, BRIAN, YES OR NO? YOU OKAY? I THINK WE'VE BEATEN THIS ONE TO DEATH.
I THINK SO I THINK THAT I, I AGREE WITH THE COUNSELORS THAT SAID, HEY, LET'S NOT LET THIS INCOME QUALIFICATION BE A BARRIER UPFRONT.
I THINK IF THAT TURNED INTO A HUNDRED MORE APPLICATIONS OR A HUNDRED TOTAL, SO FOUR TIMES THE NUMBER.
IF, I MEAN, THE WORST CASE IS YOU NEED $10,000 OUTTA CONTINGENT FUNDS TO PAY FOR THOSE
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AUDITS, WHICH THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER.NOT IT WON'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER CO HOMES DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY, WON'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER.
BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WE CAN FUND ON A CONTINGENT BASIS IF, IF NECESSARY AN EXTRA 50 OR 75, THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM OR TO HAVE TOO.
AND YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC, BUT YOUR, YOUR DIRECTION WILL COME FROM, FROM THE CITY MANAGER.
UH, SO TO TRY TO WRAP UP THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT SOME MORE DATA.
UM, SO ELECTRICITY, UM, IN THIS, UH, CHART HERE ON THE LEFT IS CHARTING, UH, WHERE THE, UH, UTILITY SOURCES ARE COMING FROM, FROM THE AUDIT REPORTS, UH, EXPENDITURES ARE COMING FROM.
AND SO THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE FOR THE UTILITIES IS COMING FROM ELECTRICITY, RIGHT AT THIS $970 OR SO.
UH, AND THEN 713 IS COMING FROM NATURAL GAS USAGE FOR THIS TOTAL OF AVERAGE, UH, ANNUAL HOUSEHOLD UTILITY COSTS OF OVER $1,600.
UH, THE ESTIMATED ENERGY SAVINGS FOR THE HOUSEHOLD IS, UH, FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROJECT IS RIGHT AT 21%, UH, SAVING ABOUT $355 PER HOUSEHOLD.
UH, AND SO FOR THE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE GONE, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, FOR THE RESPECT OF UH, PROJECTS, UH, THE AVERAGE COST OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN JUST A LITTLE OVER $4,100.
UH, FUNDING AT THE, FROM THE CITY LEVEL, UH, HAS BEEN RIGHT AT THE LITTLE OVER, UH, 3 30, 400 $50 WITH THE HOMEOWNERS, UH, COVERING THAT, UH, THAT DIFFERENCE OF $645, UH, COMPONENT TO IT.
SO, UH, TWO THIRDS OF THE PARTICIPATING HOMES THROUGH THE FIRST, UH, TWO ROUNDS OF THE PROJECT HAVE REPORTED INCOMES OF BELOW 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
SO THE FUNDS ARE GETTING, UH, TO THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE IN NEED OF AT MOST.
AND THEN FROM A GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REDUCTION STANDPOINT, UH, THIS, UH, CHART HERE ON THE RIGHT IS AVERAGE ANNUAL EMISSIONS BEFORE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE AND THEN ESTIMATED, UH, CHANGE FOR THOSE COMPONENTS.
AND THEN ESTIMATED ABOUT PER RESIDENCE, UH, IT'S ABOUT ONE AND A HALF, UH, METRIC, TONS OF AVOIDANT, UH, REDUCTIONS FOR THAT HOUSEHOLD FOR THE YEAR.
SO, UH, ABOUT A 20% DECREASE, UH, IN EMISSIONS FOR UTILITY SAVINGS FOR THAT HOME.
UH, AND THEN WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO THE FOOD GAPS.
UH, COMPOSTING, YOU HAD THAT, THAT ONE SLIDE YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
WELL, SO MY, THE OTHER QUESTION I'VE BEEN WRITING DOWN THOUGHTS AND TRYING TO POSE FOR THE DAY IS I'M GONNA OPEN THE CAN OF WORMS AGAIN.
SO THIS IS A CONVERSATION FOR US TO THINK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, BUT I WANNA BRING THIS UP TODAY BECAUSE ALL THE DATA IS HERE HURT, WAKE UP, THIS IS, UH, IT'S GONNA COME BACK.
WHEN I LOOK AT PROJECTS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LAID OUT HERE ABOUT, UH, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
YOU KNOW, I TAKE A, A TACT OF, YOU LOOK AT THE BIG NUMBERS, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO REDUCE SOMETHING, YOU LOOK AT THE BIG NUMBERS AND THEN YOU TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THOSE TO COME DOWN.
AND IT'S KIND OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT ARGUMENT.
MUNICIPAL ADMISSIONS ARE 2000 MEGA TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT.
AND THE COMMUNITY IS 152,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT.
SO THAT KIND OF TELLS ME WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO DO WHAT YOU CAN EVERYWHERE.
THEN FURTHER, I DIG DOWN INTO THAT COMMUNITY NUMBERS AND I SEE THE SECOND THROUGH FIFTH ITEMS ON THE EMISSIONS LIST ARE RESIDENTIAL, ELECTRIC, COMMERCIAL ELECTRIC, RESIDENTIAL, NATURAL GAS, AND COMMERCIAL NATURAL GAS.
SO THAT ALL KIND OF FOLDS INTO ME ABOUT ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECTS, BUT NOT JUST HOMES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER WE REALLY SHOULD BE DOING JUST A RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, OR WE OUGHT TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUR BUSINESSES IN HERE AS WELL.
WHEN YOU ADD UP THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES OF HOME, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, NATURAL GAS, THAT'S, UH, 59% OF THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS OF 152,000 TONS.
SO IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE, OF THIS ELEMENT HERE.
AND, AND OUR PROGRAM CURRENTLY IS STRUCTURED AT RESIDENTIAL LOW INCOME.
BUT IF WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT TRYING TO DO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REDUCTION, IT MIGHT BE THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS TO THINK ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT IS BIGGER THAN JUST HOME ENERGY RETROFIT.
BRYCE, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT CONCLUSION? SO, UM, AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL, THE SCALE AND THE PARTNERS NEEDED TO GET TO THOSE COMPONENTS IS, IS IS VERY EXTENSIVE AND, AND DIVERSE.
I THINK OUR PRIMARY WAY TO GET THE CHANGES WOULD BE DIRECT INTERACTIONS WITH APS ON A MORE LOCALIZED, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY SYSTEM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SERVE THE CERTAIN AREA THAT'S A LARGE POTENTIAL PROJECT OR WHATNOT.
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WITH THE WAY THE ENERGY SYSTEM IS BEING PROVIDED TO THE AREA LIKE THAT, THAT SOURCE OF WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM IS GOING TO BE, IN MY MIND, AN EASIER LIFT THAN GOING OUT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, BUSINESS OR RESIDENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT AND GETTING BUY-IN, UH, TO DO ENERGY RETROFITS FOR THOSE HOMES.THE BUILDING ENVELOPE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY WITHIN IT, BUT THE GO BACK TO WHERE MOST EFFECTIVE IS TO GET THE COMPONENTS WITH WHETHER IT'S IN A SOURCE OR APS, UH, AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF HOW WE CAN, UH, GET IMPROVEMENTS TO ENERGY THAT'S SOURCED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND FLAGSTAFF'S HAVING THE EXACT SAME, UH, EXACT SAME DEBATE AND CUZ THEY'RE A LITTLE BIGGER CITY, THEY'RE HAVING THAT SAME COMPONENT OF JUST HOW DO YOU GET 50, 70,000 RESIDENTS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES INDIVIDUALLY? UH, AND THAT'S A TIME CONSUMING, VERY DRAWN PROCESS.
OR IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH OUR UTILITY PROVIDERS TO MAYBE DRIVE DOWN THE OTHER COMPONENT OF IT FROM THE SUPPLY SIDE AND THEN, UH, THE ENERGY, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE SUBSTITUTES ON A DEMAND SIDE COMPONENT TO IT.
SO, UH, I THINK LARGER CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED TO BE HAD, UH, AND I WOULD, UH, BE WILLING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR UTILITY PARTNERS AND THE LIKE, UH, BUT I THINK THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL AS ONE ROLE TO PLAY IN IT, WHERE THE ENERGY IS GETTING SOURCED FROM, HAS IN MY MIND A LITTLE BIT LARGER ROLE, UH, AT THE MOMENT.
YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER, BRYCE, AND, AND I I LIKE YOUR ENTHUSIASM FOR THINKING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, IN A LARGER CONTEXT AS WELL.
I'M, MY POINT WASN'T TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHERE THE ENERGY COMES FROM.
I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE MANTRA OF, OF SUSTAINABILITY, AND WE START WITH REDUCE AND REDUCE FOR ME IS ENERGY CONSERVATION.
AND, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY CONTROL AND, AND FROM A A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR COMMUNITY TO, UH, UH, THINK ABOUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD'S AT THAT IT'S THE BIG NUMBERS, THE BIG NUMBERS HERE ARE ABOUT ENERGY USE.
THAT'S THE THING THAT WE NEED TO REDUCE.
AND IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL, IT'S COMMERCIAL.
UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT WE WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
A SCORECARD PROGRAM HAS, UH, HAS THAT GONE AWAY, UH, WITH THE TRANSITION THAT THE DEPARTMENT FACING THAT WAS CUT, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THE THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT PILOT PROJECT WAS CANCELED.
SO IS IT GONE FOREVER? I WOULD NOT SAY IT'S GONE FOREVER.
IT'S JUST, UH, BEING ABLE TO UPTAKE THAT, UM, AND DO IT EFFECTIVELY WITH JUST THE TRANSITIONS THAT WE FACE HAS JUST BEEN KIND OF, UH, SHIFTED DOWN THE LINE A LITTLE BIT.
WOULD THAT PROGRAM TARGET WHAT, UH, COUNSELOR FOREMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT? UH, IT COULD TARGET ASPECTS OF IT, UM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SCORECARD, UH, THEY WOULD WORK, UH, THAT PILOT PROJECT WOULD WORK WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES TO LOOK AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
NOT JUST ENERGY USAGE, BUT MAYBE WATER CONSUMPTION, SUPPLY CHAIN COMPONENTS OR WHATNOT TO HELP, UH, BUILD THE SUSTAINABILITY WITHIN THAT COMMERCIAL ENTITY.
UM, BUT FOR, IT WOULD HAVE AN ASPECT TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THE COMMERCIAL ENTITY ROLE FOR IT.
SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT MM-HMM.
WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ZACH ON THE COMMUNITY FOOD SCRAPS COMPOSTING PILOT.
UM, THE COMPOSTING PILOT PROGRAM WAS LAUNCHED IN THE SPRING OF 2022 WITH OUR CONTRACT ENDING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ANOTHER CONTRACT SIGNED WITH COMPOST CROWD FOR, UH, TO ALLOW THIS PROGRAM TO, UH, CONTINUE FOR ITS SECOND YEAR.
UH, THE COM COMPOSTING PILOT PROGRAM WAS INITIALLY LAUNCHED AFTER WE RECEIVED A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK DURING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, AND THIS PROGRAM IS OPEN TO ALL SEDONA RESIDENTS.
UM, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, UM, IS TO CONTACT, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM, ANSWER A HANDFUL OF, UH, QUICK, EASY, SIMPLE QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT WHAT IS AND IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THE PROGRAM, UM, AS WELL AS PROVIDE, UM, JUST A SMALL SAMPLE OF, UH, PROOF OF RESIDENCY THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE RESIDENCY WITHIN THE, UH, CITY BOUNDARIES.
UH, AND ONCE THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, UH, WE PROVIDE THEM THE ACCESS TO THE ENCLOSED, UM, DROP OFF LOCATION, UH, WHERE THEY CAN DROP OFF COMPOST, UH, ANYTIME THAT THEY'D LIKE, UH, DROP OFF FOOD SCRAPS ANYTIME THAT THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE.
UM, AND THE DROP OFF LOCATION IS LOCATED AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK IN BETWEEN, UH, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND, UH, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
UM, SO, UH, SOME BENEFITS FOR COMPOSTING.
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WASTE CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF CLIMATE CHANGE AT THE GLOBAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS.UM, SO WHILE WE AREN'T SOLVING, UH, THE FOOD WASTE ISSUE, UM, HERE IN SEDONA ENTIRELY, UH, COMPOSTING IS A FANTASTIC WAY TO, UH, ELIMINATE, UM, SOME MAJOR EMISSIONS, UH, RELATED TO, UH, METHANE GAS COMING FROM LANDFILLS.
SO WHEN WE ARE PLACING, THROWING OUT ALL OF OUR FOOD AND FOOD SCRAPS INTO THE TRASH, THEY'RE MAKING IT TO LANDFILLS, MOST LIKELY, WHERE IT LEADS TO METHANE EMISSIONS, WHICH IS A VERY POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS.
UM, SO INSTEAD OF THAT, WE ARE DIVERTING IT TO A LOCAL FARM, UH, WHERE IT'S BEING TURNED INTO COMPOST TO HELP THEM REJUVENATE THEIR SOILS, UH, INCREASE THEIR, UH, THEIR, UH, THEIR PRODUCE, UH, PRODUCTION, UM, BUT ALSO WE ARE HELPING THEM PREVENT OR, UH, ELIMINATE EVEN, UH, THE NEED TO PURCHASE SYNTHETIC FERTILIZERS, WHICH ARE VERY HEAVY IN TERMS OF ENERGY, UH, TO PRODUCE VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND WHEN APPLIED TO OUR CROP LANDS, THEY MOST COMMONLY, UH, CAUSE UH, POLLUTION INTO OUR, UH, OUR WATERWAYS.
SO WE ARE, UH, PROTECTING OUR WATERWAYS, IMPROVING OUR SOILS, SUPPORTING LOCAL FARMS, UH, AND, UH, UH, AVOIDING SOME POTENT, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
UM, SO IN, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, RESULTS OF THIS PROGRAM'S FIRST YEAR, UM, FIRST OFF, WE CAPPED PARTICIPATION AT, UH, 50 HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, AND WITHIN, UM, WITHIN FOUR MONTHS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL 50 HOUSEHOLD SLOTS FILLED, UM, WITH 104 SEDONA RESIDE RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING.
UM, AND, UH, OVER THE LAST 11 MONTHS, THE PILOT PROGRAM HAS DIVERTED OVER 8,000 POUNDS OF, UH, FOOD SCRAPS FROM FOOD WASTE.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THIS MONTH'S DATA, WHICH WE'LL BE GETTING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
UM, BUT IN ORDER TO GAUGE HOW THIS PROGRAM, UM, HAS BEEN PROGRESSING AND, UH, HOW SUCCESSFUL IT'S BEEN, UH, WE DO SEND OUT SURVEYS TO OUR REGISTERED, UH, RESIDENTS EVERY SIX MONTHS.
SO, UM, WE, A FEW MONTHS AGO SENT OUT OUR LAST, UH, SURVEY FOR THE YEAR AND WE HAD A 70% RESPONSE RATE.
UM, AND THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEYED SHOWED, UM, THAT, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE EITHER SATISFIED OR VERY SATISFIED WITH THE PROGRAM SO FAR, UM, WITH A GRAND MAJORITY OF THEM BEING VERY SATISFIED.
AND, UH, 70% ON TOP OF THAT, 70% OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, REPORTED DROPPING OFF THEIR FOOD SCRAPS, UH, ONCE, UH, BETWEEN ONE OR TWO TIMES A WEEK.
SO WE'RE JUST SEEING A CONTINUED, UH, HIGH RATE OF, UH, PARTICIPATION.
PEOPLE AREN'T JUST DROPPING OFF A FEW MONTHS AFTER THEY REGISTER.
UM, WE ALSO ASK OUR RESIDENTS THEIR OPINIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND THE MOST, UH, COMMON FEEDBACK WE GET IS TO, UH, ONE, EXPAND THE PROGRAM, BUT ALSO, UH, INCREASE THE NUMBER OR THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT WE ACCEPT WITHIN THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ADDING MORE DROP OFF LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE RENEWING THE CONTRACT IN JUST A FEW WEEKS WITH COMPOST CROWD, UM, FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF OPERATION.
UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING THE PROGRAM, UM, BY A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR WITH NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY.
UM, AND WE'LL JUST ALSO BE WORKING DI DILIGENTLY OVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO, UH, FILL THOSE, THOSE ADDITIONAL 50 HOUSEHOLD SLOTS.
AND THEN JUST MAINTAINING THE PROGRAM AND, UH, COLLECTING DATA FROM COMPOST CROWD AND OUR RESIDENCE.
ZACH, I JUST FORGET THE NAME IS THAT COMPOST CROWDS ONE OF OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS THAT, UH, WHO NON LIKE NONPROFITS OR COMPANIES? UH, YES.
IT'S BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I LIKE TO KEEP EVERYTHING LOCAL AND AS DO WE, I KNOW THAT WHAT THEY DO IS PRETTY AMAZING AS WELL.
UH, YES, THEY DO A LOT, UM, WITH, UH, THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE.
AND THEY SERVICE A LOT OF SEDONA AND A LOT OF FLAGSTAFF AS WELL.
AND I THINK THERE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TODAY, KATHY.
WELL, IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT THE PROGRAM'S GOING TO DOUBLE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR IT'S GONNA DOUBLE IT.
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE NOT BE ADDITIONAL COST WITH DOUBLING A PROGRAM? THAT'S ONE QUESTION, AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
YEAH, GREAT QUESTION, COUNSELOR.
UM, SO THAT IS BASED OFF OF THE, UH, THE STRUCTURE THAT COMPOST CROWD USES WHEN THEY HAVE, WHEN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THIS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THAT'S, THIS IS THE AGREEMENT THEY'VE MADE WITH OUR CITY.
SO IT, WE ARE CHARGED BASED OFF THE NUMBER OF BUCKETS THAT ARE AT THE DROP OFF LOCATION.
SO WE HAVE, UH, 10 LARGE BUCKETS FOR PEOPLE TO DROP OFF THEIR FOOD SCRAPS.
SO WE ARE CHARGED, UH, THE SAME RATE WHETHER WE FILL ONE OF THOSE BUCKETS OR ALL 10 OF THOSE BUCKETS.
AND RIGHT NOW, BASED OFF THE DATA OVER THE LAST YEAR, 50 HOUSEHOLDS, UM, WE JUST CHOSE 50 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH WASTE WE WERE GONNA BE PRODUCING.
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CLEAR THAT 50 HOUSEHOLDS IS NOT NEARLY FILLING ALL THE BUCKETS THAT WE HAVE UP THERE.SO BY INCREASING OUR AMOUNT, UH, TO A HUNDRED INSTEAD OF 50, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL A GRAND MAJORITY OF THESE BUCKETS NOW AND ACTUALLY GET THE FULL POTENTIAL OUT OF THAT DROP.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO ADD THIS TO THEIR BUCKET LIST? YES.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, SORRY FOR THAT ONE, PEOPLE, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE THE CAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, UH, LOW CONTAMINATION RATE.
AND COULD YOU JUST EDUCATE US AS WHAT KIND OF THINGS COUNT AS CONTAMINATION AND WHAT THAT MEANS SO THAT THIS IS NOT, NOT A SCARY, UH, WORD HANGING OUT IN THIS SLIDE.
SO, UM, CONTAMINATION RATE, OR EXCUSE ME, THE WORD CONTAMINATION WHEN IT COMES TO COMPOSTING PROGRAMS AND SYSTEMS, UM, THAT IS ANYTHING THAT THE COMPOSTING FACILITY DOES NOT WANT IN THEIR PILE.
UM, SO EVEN IF IT IS ORGANIC, IF, UH, THE COMPOSTING FACILITY SAYS, I'M NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH MEAT AND OILS AND ALL THESE OTHER AND, AND TREE BRANCHES AND PAPER BECAUSE IT TAKES FAR TOO LONG TO BREAK DOWN, OR IT, UH, ATTRACTS PESTS.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING, UH, CONTAMINATION.
SO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE BUCKETS.
AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, UM, A BUCKET IS CONTAMINATED, DOES THAT BUCKET THEN GET COMPLETELY DISQUALIFIED FROM GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROGRAM? UM, WELL, SO FAR WE'VE HAD NONE, NO ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I, I THINK IN GENERAL, UH, WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM OTHER COMPOSTING PROGRAMS IN OTHER CITIES, UH, GENERALLY THESE FACILITIES ARE SAYING, HEY, YOUR COM, YOUR, YOUR, UH, CONTAMINATION RATE IS GETTING A LITTLE HIGH.
WE'RE SEEING STUFF WE DON'T WANT IN OUR FACILITY.
UM, AND IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PROBLEMS, UH, WITH THE PROGRAM.
BUT, UH, GENERALLY THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE, UH, LETTING US KNOW THAT THEIR CONTAMINATION RATE IS A LITTLE HIGH, THE REASON, AND TO JUST SEND OUT REMINDERS TO YOUR, YOUR RESIDENTS, UH, WHAT WE ARE ACCEPTING AND ARE NOT ACCEPTING.
THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS WE SEE THE SAME CHALLENGE WITH THE RECYCLING CENTER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SEE THIS ITEM AS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD IN THEIR HEADS BE RECYCLABLE OR COMPOSTABLE.
UM, BUT IF IT'S NOT ACCEPTED IN THE PROGRAM, ALL THAT DOES IS CONTAMINATE SLOW DOWN AND, AND, AND INHIBIT THE PROGRAM FROM BEING ABLE TO PROCEED AS ATTENDED.
SO, I MEAN, IS, I THINK IT'S COUNCIL WILLIAMSON WHO OFTEN USES THE PHRASE WISH CYCLING AS THIS IS WISH, WISH POSTING.
UM, SO I JUST, IT'S IMPORTANT EDUCATIONAL ASPECT OF THESE PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE STAY WITHIN THE LINES BASICALLY OF WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES OR ELSE IT'S ACTUALLY HURTING THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND I WILL SAY IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE EASIER, I THINK WITH COMPOSTING, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW.
UM, ESP ESPECIALLY WITH OUR PROGRAM, IT'S ONLY RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS.
IF THIS, WE, IF WE WERE OPEN THIS UP TO BUSINESSES, UM, ESPECIALLY, UM, RESTAURANTS, THAT, THAT WOULD BECOME A LOT MORE OF A TASK IN TERMS OF CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THAT COMES DOWN TO THE BUSBOY, LIKE DROPPING, LIKE, UH, CLEARING OFF THE PLATE IN AN ACCURATE MANNER, SEPARATING THE MEAT FROM THE VEGETABLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, JUST BE WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE ONLY HAVE RESIDENTIAL, UM, HOUSEHOLDS DROPPING OFF COMPOST, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, CHICKENS.
LIKE, IT'S LIKE WE DO WITH CLASSICS.
NO MEAT, NO, NO, THIS, NO THAT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT OVERLY COMPLICATED FOR PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN, UM, A LOW CONTAMINATION RATE.
I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND, OKAY, THERE'S THESE BENEFITS OF COMPOSTING, BUT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING TO THE LOCATION AND THEY'RE NOT ALL DRIVING EVS.
SO IS THERE REALLY A NET BENEFIT IF I'M BURNING GAS TO GO DROP OFF MY COMPOST MATERIALS AND JUST ADDING INTO THAT 8,000 POUNDS, 50 HOUSEHOLDS GOING ONCE A WEEK, THAT'S THREE POUNDS A WEEK PER HOUSEHOLD.
SO LIKE, I'M GONNA GO HOP IN MY CAR TO TAKE THREE POUNDS OF FOOD SCRAPS EACH WEEK, AND, UH, AND I DON'T HAVE AN EV RIGHT NOW, SO I'M BURNING GAS TO GO DO THAT.
SO IS IS THERE REALLY A BENEFIT? UM, THERE'S STILL A BENEFIT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST COUNT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE'RE GAINING OUT OF THIS PROGRAM IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING LOCAL FARMERS, IMPROVING SOIL, UH, PROTECTING OUR WATERWAYS, UM, AND PREVENTING METHANE GAS, LIKE, UH, METHANE GAS FROM
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OUR LANDFILLS CAN BE UP TO 20 TIMES MORE POTENT THAN CARBON DIOXIDE.SO, UM, I'D SAY I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THE STUDIES ON THOSE.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY OVERALL, PREVENTING A GREENHOUSE GAS FROM ENTERING THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT IS 20 TIMES MORE POTENT IS A BENEFIT.
I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHERE I, I HAVEN'T CREATED A MAP OF EVERY SINGLE REGISTERED HOUSEHOLD.
MANY OF THEM COULD BE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OVER DROP OFF LOCATION.
UM, I'VE NOT ASKED, UH, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING I CAN ASK ON THEIR NEXT SURVEY IS WHETHER THEY DRIVE TO THE DROP OFF LOCATION.
UM, BUT THAT IS ALSO A REASON WHY, UM, UH, WE ARE LOOKING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOLID PLANS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE FIGURED OUT WHAT THE MAX CAPACITY IS OF THE PASTE GROUNDS, DROPOFF LOCATION IS TO POTENTIALLY START ADDING MORE LOCATIONS SO WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN, UM, PEOPLE, UM, UH, AND, AND THEIR, THEIR HOUSEHOLDS AND THE DROPOFF LOCATIONS.
SO, UM, TO MOVE ON PAST OUR COMMUNITY FACING PROJECTS, WE ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME REGIONAL COLLABORATIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED IN THE LAST, UH, FEW MONTHS BEFORE, UH, SINCE OUR LAST, UH, TIME BEFORE COUNCIL.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE JUST WRAPPING UP OUR FY 23 PARTNERSHIP WITH OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL.
UH, THE COUNCIL HELPED US, UH, WITH DISTRIBUTION OF MS FOUR STORMWATER AND EDUCATION OUTREACH, UH, NEWSLETTERS TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, PERFORMING, UH, EDUCATION, UH, TABLING EVENTS AND STORMWATER, UH, MANAGEMENT SESSIONS, UH, AT, UH, VARIOUS LOCATIONS SUCH AS, UH, SEDONA FARMER'S MARKETS.
UH, AND WE ALSO CONDUCTED, UH, VARIOUS CLEANUP EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, THE WINTER WEATHER THAT WE HAD, UH, DURING THE JANUARY TO MARCH PERIOD, UH, KIND OF SHIFTED SOME OF OUR, UH, SCHEDULING FOR IT, BUT WE'RE STILL TO HA HAVE FOUR EVENTS, UH, THAT HELPED REMOVE 150 POUNDS OF WASTE, UH, FROM THE WATERWAYS.
AND SO WE DID THE, LIKE, THE SUNSET, UH, SUNSET PARK, UH, CARROLL CANYON AREA DOWN IN OCK, UH, TO REALLY TRY TO DIVERSIFY WHERE WE WERE, UH, DOING THESE CLEANUP EVENTS.
AND THE CLEANUP EVENTS WERE MOVED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS, EVERYTHING FROM CIGARETTES TO DIAPERS TO, UH, PLASTIC BOTTLES AND CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS.
UH, AND THE OAK CREEK WATERSHED, UH, COUNCIL ALSO HELPED US WITH SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS IN RELATION TO INVASIVE SPECIES, UM, WATERSHED MANAGEMENT AND THE, LIKE, THAT RE REACHED AN ADDITIONAL 5,500, UH, PEOPLE.
AND THEN THE FARMER'S MARKETS AND TABLING EVENTS, UH, REACHED ADDITIONAL HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL HUNDREDS INTERACTIONS MORE, UH, WITHIN THAT.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED, UH, WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP, ESPECIALLY GET BEING ABLE TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND HAVE THOSE IMPACTS WITHIN THE WATERSHED, UH, AND CLEAN UP EVENTS IN THE, LIKE, ADDITIONALLY, JUST A, ABOUT A WEEK AFTER, UH, WE HAD, UH, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL LAST, UH, TIME, WE HAD OUR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION EVENT.
IT WAS THE FOURTH ANNUAL EVENT THAT WAS CONDUCTED.
UH, WE PARTNERED WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY SOLID WASTE DIVISION, AS WELL AS CLEAN HARBORS WHO DID THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, MANAGEMENT COMPONENT.
AND THEN R THREE E-WASTE WAS OUR ELECTRONICS PROVIDER FOR IT.
UH, WE ACCEPTED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM SMARTPHONES TO PESTICIDES TO ACIDS AND BATTERIES AND CHEMICAL CLEANERS.
UH, JUST THING OF NOTE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IS THAT ELECTRONICS AND WASTE DISPOSAL, UH, FROM THESE EVENTS IS JUST BECOMING A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT, UH, TO DISPOSE OF.
COSTS HAVE GONE UP ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO SIMILARLY, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE LIKE, UH, THE, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT SECTORS ARE ALSO SEEING THAT, UH, AND CERTAIN TYPES OF ITEMS SUCH AS THE OLD C R T TELEVISIONS ARE BECOMING KIND OF, UH, COST PROHIBITIVE TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT AND DISPOSE OF.
UH, LUCKILY WE'RE GETTING THE POINT WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MANY OF THOSE C R T TELEVISIONS KIND OF FLOATING AROUND, UH, BUT THERE'S STILL, UH, VARIOUS COMPONENTS THAT ARE JUST KIND OF DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE AND MANAGE.
BUT IN 2022, UH, WE HAD, UH, 177 PARTICIPANTS THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE DAY.
UH, THAT WAS DOWN FROM 346 IN 2021.
UH, THE SEDONA ARTS FESTIVAL WAS HELD ON THE EXACT SAME WEEKEND.
UH, SO I'M ANTICIPATING SOME FOLKS WERE MORE INTERESTED TO GO AND SEE ALL THE COOL THINGS THAT WERE AT THE ARTS FESTIVAL THAN STOPPING BY AND, UH, DISPOSING OF THEIR WASTE.
UH, BUT, UH, ALSO THE PANDEMIC YEARS ARE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO GAUGE, UH, WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE INSIDE OR LOOKING AT ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THEIR HOME AS, UH, WE HAD THE LOCKDOWNS OR, UH, SLOWDOWNS, UH, COMPONENTS TO IT.
AND I'VE JUST SEEN ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THEY CAN KIND OF GET RID OF.
UH, AND SO WE SAW AN UPTICK, UH, IN 20, UH, FOR 2020, UH, AND 21.
UH, AND SO I DON'T, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GAUGE WHETHER OR NOT OUR DECLINE IS RELATED TO A NEW TREND OR WHETHER OR NOT, UH, IT'S JUST RES LIKE A BOUNCE BACK FROM PANDEMIC LEVELS OR THE LIKE.
UH, BUT OVERALL, UH, FOR THAT EVENT, WE HAD, UH, OVER 3,800 POUNDS OF ELECTRONICS THAT WERE COLLECTED AND 8,100 POUNDS OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.
AND THEN OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS THAT THE EVENT,
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UH, HAS BEEN HELD, UH, OVER 62,000 POUNDS OF ELECTRONICS AND 40,000 POUNDS OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE HAS BEEN COLLECTED ON DISPOSAL OF, AND IT STILL REMAINS ONE OF THE VERY FEW EVENTS OR DISPOSAL, UM, DISPOSAL DAYS WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY.UH, IF A RESIDENT IS IN COCONINO COUNTY, UH, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE, UH, HAZARDOUS, UH, PR HAZARDOUS, UH, PRODUCT CENTER UP IN, UH, FLAGSTAFF.
GRANTED, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DRIVE, BUT THERE'S STILL A WAY FOR THEM TO GET TO THAT SPOT AND DISPOSE OF IT FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY THAT, UH, FACILITY DOES NOT EXIST.
AND SO EVENTS LIKE OURS ARE SOME OF THE ONLY, UH, TOUCH POINTS THAT FOLKS WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY HAVE, UH, TO GET RID OF THOSE MORE DIFFICULT THINGS TO DISPOSE OF THAT AREN'T TAKEN AT TRANSFER STATIONS.
BRYCE, DID YOU SAY FLAGSTAFF HAS A, A STATION A CENTER? IS THAT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, OR JUST ONCE A YEAR? UH, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S RUNNING, UH, YEAR LONG.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THE HOURS OPERATIONS FOR IT THOUGH.
COULD YOU JUST FIND OUT AN EMAIL TO US? DEFINITELY.
BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO GET THAT OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS AS ANOTHER OPTION.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT BACK OFF TO ZACH TO TALK ABOUT, UH, AN EXCITING NEW PROGRAM.
I, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
WAS THIS EVENT OPEN TO ONLY CITY RESIDENTS OR THE WHOLE AREA? SO IT'S, UH, CITY OF SEDONA RESIDENCE IN UNINCORPORATED YAVAPAI COUNTY.
UH, AND SO IF THEY WERE, IF THEY'RE AN ADDRESS FOR, UM, K OR FOR SAY, COTTONWOOD OR CAMP VERDE THAT IS INCORPORATED, UM, I DIDN'T SEE MANY ADDRESSES, UH, THAT CAME THROUGH THAT WERE EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ONES.
SO I THINK THE, OUR MESSAGING WORD GOT OUT THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY UNINCORPORATED AREAS FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND THAT'S IN A COST SHARING PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, YAVAPAI COUNTY.
AND THEN I'LL HAND OFF TO ZACH TO, TO TALK ABOUT A NEW EXCITING PROJECT THAT, THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, SO THE, UH, URBAN HEAT ISLAND INITIATIVE, UH, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT AS OF LAST SATURDAY, UH, OUR PROGRAM AND, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF SEDONA, UH, COMPLETED THE HARD WORK OF COLLECTING THE NEEDED DATA TO CREATE A HIGHLY DETAILED MAP OF SEDONAS URBAN HEAT ISLAND.
UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, COUNCILOR KINSELLA AND DUNN, WHO, UH, UH, ATTENDED THE EVENT AND HELPED US COLLECT DATA.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AS ALWAYS, UM, AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE YOU THERE.
UM, BUT THIS WAS A NATIONAL LEVEL PROJECT, UM, WHERE SEDONA JOINED 17 OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UM, AS WELL AS ONE INTERNATIONAL CITY, UM, THAT WILL BE COLLECTING DATA TO CREATE THEIR OWN URBAN HEAT ISLAND MAPS THIS SUMMER.
UM, SOME OF THE CITIES THAT WERE PARTICIPATING WITH US THIS YEAR, UH, INCLUDES, UH, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, UM, SALT LAKE CITY, DALLAS, ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, UH, LONGMONT, UM, UH, OKLAHOMA CITY AND, UH, SANTIAGO, CHILE, UH, ALONG WITH A HANDFUL OF OTHER CITIES IN, UH, LARGE COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND, UH, SEDONA WAS THE FIRST OF ALL THESE CITIES THIS YEAR TO COMPLETE, UH, THEIR COLLECTION OF SURFACE HEAT AND HUMIDITY, HUMIDITY DATA, UH, WITH THE HELP AND SUPPORT OF OUR, UH, LOCAL CITIZEN SCIENTISTS.
UM, SO THIS, UH, PROJECT WAS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM, UM, ARIZONA'S GOVERNOR APPOINTED, UH, STATE CLIMATOLOGIST, UH, NOAA, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, UM, OUR LOCAL, UH, KI SEDONA BEAUTIFUL, UM, NONPROFIT WHO HELPED US, UH, REACH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN TO HELP RECRUIT, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, AS WELL AS KAPPA, UH, A PRIVATE COMPANY WHO SENT US THEIR EQUIPMENT TO COLLECT THE DATA.
UH, WE NEEDED TO COLLECT THE DATA WE NEEDED.
UM, AND WE'LL ALSO BE THE ONES ANALYZING OUR DATA AND CREATING A DETAILED HEAT MAP, UH, LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE IN OUR SLIDE HERE.
UM, THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE A BOULDER COUNTY OR, UH, THE CITY OF BOULDER, EXCUSE ME, UH, WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS LAST YEAR.
UM, AND, UH, SO, UH, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA BE, UH, DELIVERING, UH, A WRITTEN REPORT WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF GREAT COVERAGE FROM, UM, VARIOUS, UH, NEWS, UH, NEWS AGENCIES IN INCLUDING, UH, CRONKITE NEWS, UH, NPR AND, UH, REUTERS NEWS AGENCY.
UM, THEY WERE ONSITE WITH US, UH, DOING INTERVIEWS AND EVEN RIDING ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OUR, UH, RESIDENTS AS THEY COLLECTED DATA.
UM, SO THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR NUMEROUS REASONS.
UM, FIRST EXTREME HEAT HAS BEEN THE LEADING CAUSE OF WEATHER RELATED DEATH IN THE UNITED STATES FOR THE LAST THREE DECADES, UM, EXCEEDING, UH, DEATHS CAUSED BY FLOODING, FIRES, HURRICANES, UM, OR TORNADOES.
UM, SO THIS IS A, IT'S NOT ALWAYS A FLASHY THING THAT YOU SEE ON THE MEDIA, BUT IT IS A EXTREMELY IMPACTFUL WEATHER, WEATHER RELATED PHENOMENON.
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UM, AND THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, UH, MAKES THAT IMPACT EVEN WORSE.UM, SO EXTREME HEAT ALSO DOESN'T IMPACT OUR POPULATIONS EQUALLY.
UM, OLDER ADULTS, UH, LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, INFANTS PREGNANT WOMEN, UM, ARE ARE ALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICULARLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO EXTREME HEAT.
UM, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE HAVE, UH, AROUND 3 MILLION TOURISTS, UH, ARRIVE IN TOWN, UH, EVERY YEAR.
AND THEY'RE NOT ALL FROM THE DESERT REGIONS.
THEY DON'T ALL KNOW HOW BRUTAL THE TEMPERATURES CAN BE HERE OR HOW BRUTAL THEY CAN BE ON THE BODY.
UM, AND SO THIS IS, UH, JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY WE, UH, ARE CARING ABOUT THIS, THIS ISSUE AND WHY WE, UH, CONDUCTED THIS PROJECT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE HUMAN HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES POSED BY EXTREME HEAT, AGAIN, MADE WORSE BY THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.
UM, ANOTHER REASON THAT WE DID THIS, UH, AS BOTH THE CLIMATE CONTINUES TO WARM, UH, OVER THE COMING DECADES, UH, AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND DEVELOP AS A CITY, AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A VERY STRONG CONNECTION BETWEEN EXTREME HEAT AND HOW WE DECIDE TO BUILD AND DEVELOP AS A CITY.
UM, THE MORE TREES, SHRUBS, AND OTHER VEGETATION THAT WE REMOVE AND REPLACE WITH, UH, DARKER, UH, IMPERMEABLE SURFACE, LIKE, UH, SURFACES LIKE ASPHALT, CONCRETE METAL, THE WORST, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND HERE IN SEDONA.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THE IMPACTS OF, UH, THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND, UH, REDUCING THE IMPACTS OF THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND IS, UH, AN ACTION ITEM LISTED WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
SO, UH, THIS IS GONNA GIVE US FOUNDATIONAL DATA THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, ACTION ITEM, UM, IN, IN THE COMING FISCAL YEARS.
SO WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? UH, ON MONDAY THIS WEEK, I SHIP BACK ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE, UH, GAVE, GAVE OUT TO ALL OF OUR, UH, OUR, UH, DATA COLLECTION TEAMS. UH, I FORGOT TO MENTION WE HAD CLOSE TO 30 RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING IN THIS.
UM, WE, UH, RECRUITED UP TO 40 RESIDENTS INITIALLY, BUT WE HAD TO PUSH BACK THE COLLECTION DATE, UM, JUST DUE TO COOLER WEATHER.
UM, SO WE LOST A FEW PEOPLE THERE, BUT WE STILL HAD PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO CONDUCT THE STUDY.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE SENT BACK OUR EQUIPMENT TO KAPPA AND THEY'RE GONNA DOWNLOAD THE DATA, AND IN SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE A VERY DETAILED MAP DOWN TO THE STREET LEVEL OF OUR URBAN HEAT ISLAND, ALONG WITH A WRITTEN REPORT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, FROM THERE WE ARE FURTHER EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS, UM, UH, LATER DOWN THE LINE IN PRODUCING SOLUTION, UH, SOLUTION, UH, REPORTS THAT WILL JUST DETAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPES OF ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE, UM, IN THE FUTURE, UH, USING OUT THE DATA THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE COLLECTED.
UM, AND, UH, THIS IS ALSO JUST GOING TO HELP US, UH, CREATE OTHER HEAT RELATED, UH, PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.
I KNOW KATHY ELLI, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I, I DO, UH, COMMENT REALLY, WHICH WAS, UH, YOU SAID IT LAST NIGHT, BUT YOU GUYS WEREN'T HERE TO HEAR THAT COMMENT.
UM, WHICH WAS HOW IMPRESSED I WAS WITH THIS PROGRAM.
NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE DATA THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING, WHICH COULD MAKE SOME REAL CHANGES, IT'S, IT'S SPECIFIC TO SEDONA, IT'S US EXACTLY.
ABLE TO CONTROL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY A WONDERFUL PROJECT, BUT ALSO IT WAS GREAT HOW ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY WAS AND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID YOUR TEAM TO ENCOURAGE THAT ENGAGEMENT.
UM, I SPOKE WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WERE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING SO CONCRETE, NO PUN INTENDED.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD REALLY JUST BE A PART OF AND, AND DO.
AND IT HELPED TO EDUCATE THEM, HELP THEM TO EDUCATE OTHERS, HELP THEM TO FEEL INVESTED, GET BUY-IN INTO ANY CHANGES THAT MAY COME DOWN THE PIKE.
I MEAN, IT, IT WAS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY BUILDING EVENT, SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THIS.
AND, UH, I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO, UH, DEVELOP AND ROLL OUT MORE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY PASSIONATE PEOPLE IN TOWN, UH, WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
AND, UH, WE WANT TO BUILD MORE PROJECTS SO THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO JUST WAIT AROUND FOR, FOR JUST OUR DEPARTMENT TO FIX A LOT OF, UH, THIS, THE PROBLEMS IN TOWN IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
THEY HAVE THE, THE, UH, AGENCY TO WORK TOGETHER AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND COME TOGETHER AND SOLVE PROBLEMS. BRIAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
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TO THIS.OUR CODE, OUR OUR, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOUSING CODE ESSENTIALLY REQUIRES EVERY HOUSE TO BE A HEAT ISLAND BASED ON PAINT REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I HAVE A 50 YEAR OLD HOUSE.
I'M, I'M, I DON'T KNOW, I MAY BE THE ONLY PERSON IN TOWN WITH A LEGALLY NONCONFORMING WHITE HOUSE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M PLANNING IN ON A RENOVATION, RIGHT? AND I DON'T REALLY WANT A WHITE HOUSE ANYMORE, BUT NOW I'M PUSHED INTO CODE COMPLIANCE.
AND, UH, I'M COMING TO TERMS WITH THAT, UH, WITH THE LATEST ROUND OF, UH, UH, KICKBACKS FROM THE, UH, DON'T SAY THAT, SORRY.
UM, CORRECTIONS
SO I'M BEING REQUIRED TO HAVE A PAINT COLOR THAT ABSOLUTELY IS A HEAT ISLAND.
AND THERE'S AMAZING TECHNOLOGY OUT FROM MY ALMA MATER OF PURDUE UNIVERSITY OF WHITE PAINT THAT ACTUALLY, UM, WILL, IT'S AMAZING.
IT ACTUALLY WILL PULL THE ENERGY OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, LIKE PULL THE HEAT OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND REFLECT IT OUTWARD.
UM, HOW DO YOU SQUARE WITH THAT? LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL THINK ABOUT AND, YOU KNOW, WANT TO GO OVER TO, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THESE DARK COLORS YOU REQUIRE ACTUALLY RUN COUNTER TO LOWER ENERGY EFFICIENCY, LIKE COUNCILOR BERMAN'S TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, WE NEED TO REDUCE, AND ONE OF THE WAYS IS TO NOT REQUIRE COLORS THAT ABSORB HEAT.
WE DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, AND THIS IS ALSO A REASON WHY WE DID IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL BEFORE IN, IN OUR MAPPING OUR URBAN HEAT ISLAND AND SEEING WHAT AREAS OF THE TOWN ARE EXPERIENCING MORE HEAT THAN OTHERS.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A VERY PASSIONATE, UM, AND LONGSTANDING CULTURE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE BEAUTIFUL AND, UH, BLEND IN WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THIS DATA IS JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, UM, AND THESE, THIS IS WHAT'S CAUSING IT.
SO, UM, THIS IS GONNA HELP I THINK, A LOT IN THIS ROOM.
UM, HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS REALLY, UH, THE BEST WAY FORWARD FOR US? UM, AND, UH, YEAH, JUST, JUST WORKING WITH OUR, UH, PARTNERS IN COM DEV TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL THERE, I, I WON'T SAY ANYTHING CONCRETE, BUT WE'RE JUST, UH, NO PUN IN.
MORE DISCUSSIONS DOWN THE LINE ONCE THIS DATA COMES BACK.
SO, ABBY, YOU WERE LIKE JUMPING UP AND DOWN THERE FOR A SECOND TO WANT TO ANSWER.
I'M CURIOUS, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT? YEAH, I DON'T WANNA PLANT ANY SEED, SO TO SPEAK.
AND, UH, I, I THINK THE TEAM DEFINITELY WAS GONNA USE OUR URBAN HEAT ISLAND MAP DATA TO FURTHER TO DISCUSSION.
BUT, UM, I'VE BEEN DOING GREEN BUILDING CODE RESEARCH JUST TO EXPLORE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE USING.
UM, AND IT LIKE, UH, WHAT OUR CODE HERE IS ALREADY PRETTY EXTENSIVE, SO THERE'D BE LIKE LOTS OF PROS AND CONS LIKE TRADE OFFS IF WE DID LIKE INVOLUNTARY GREEN BUILDING CODE, UM, LIKE FLAGSTAFF IS DOING.
BUT IT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING TO ADD ONTO, BUT IT WOULD BE NEED, LIKE A DEEP DISCUSSION WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CUZ IT'S NOT JUST CHANGING CODE.
IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR LIKE, YOUR'RE SAYING, JUST MAKING A SIMPLE CHANGE ON YOUR HOUSE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A COOL INITIATIVE AND I LOVE THAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH THE WHOLE PAINT COLOR THING AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA GET INVOLVED.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HYPERBOLE YOU JUST, ALL RIGHT, UH, SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE FINISH, AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE A FEW UPCOMING PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE HAD.
AND SO THE FIRST ONE, UH, THAT WE JUST, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT, SO THIS ISN'T AN EX ISN'T AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT, UH, WE WANTED JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE COMING UP, UH, PRETTY QUICK.
UH, AND SO HA FOR THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO OWEN AND DISCUSS A, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT PILOT PROJECT.
UH, SO FOR THIS PILOT PROJECT, UH, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A NETWORK OF 10 SOLAR POWERED SMART WASTE RECEPTACLES, UH, AT LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY.
AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING DELIVERY OF THESE RECEPTACLES EARLY IN FY 24.
UH, SO THESE RECEPTACLES ARE GOING TO BE IN PUBLIC AREAS, AND WE WANTED THEM TO LOOK NICE.
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, WE DESIGNED SOME NICE LOOKING WRAPS, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ARTS COORDINATOR.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING WILL HELP SUPPORT MANY CITY GOALS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
UH, FIRST OFF, THESE RECEPTACLES, UH, HAVE SENSORS AND ELECTRONICS IN THEM THAT, UH, MONITOR, RECORD AND COMMUNICATE THE FULLNESS OF EACH RECEPTACLE TO CITY MAINTENANCE STAFF,
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UH, OR OTHERS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE NETWORK.UH, AND SO THAT WILL ULTIMATELY GIVE US BETTER DATA ON WASTE COLLECTION TRENDS AROUND THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO BOTH OVERALL QUANTITY AS WELL AS LOCATIONS, UH, OF WASTE GENERATION AND HEAVY COLLECTION.
UM, AND IN LINE WITH THAT, UH, THEY'RE GONNA HELP IMPROVE OUR WASTE COLLECTION EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE ASSOCIATED LABOR HOURS AS STAFF CAN USE THIS MONITORING SYSTEM, UH, TO FOCUS THEIR WASTE COLLECTION EFFORTS ON AREAS WHERE, UH, WE'RE SEEING THAT RECEPTACLES ARE MORE FULL.
AND THROUGH THAT HOPEFULLY THEY CAN REDIRECT LABOR HOURS, UH, TO OTHER TASKS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT COULD REDUCE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WASTE RECEPTACLES THAT IS MANAGED BY THE CITY.
UH, PARTICULARLY IF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WE DECIDE TO SCALE IT UP, OF COURSE, DEPENDING ON THE RESULTS OF, UH, THIS FIRST PILOT.
AND LASTLY, THEY'RE GOING TO ACT AS AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS POINT FOR THE CITY.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WRAPS ARE BEING USED TO, UH, SHARE SOME LEAVE NO TRACE MESSAGING WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND ADDITIONALLY, THESE RECEPTACLES ARE GOING TO HAVE MESSAGE PANELS ON THE SIDES, UH, THAT WE CAN USE TO COMMUNICATE A VARIETY OF CITY PROGRAMS TO THE PUBLIC AS WE SEE FIT.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
UH, WHO'S GONNA EMPTY THEM? UH, THAT WOULD BE OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM.
SO WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON THE, THE VERY TOP OF THE RECEPTACLE ABOVE, UM, THAT COMPARTMENT WITH THE HANDLE THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT IS PULLED OUT.
SO IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL SOLAR PANEL.
THE, UH, THE COLLEGE THAT I WENT TO USED THESE AS WELL, AND IT'S, UH, HONESTLY, IT TOOK ME QUITE A WHILE OF WALKING PAST 'EM TO EVEN REALIZE THAT THE SOLAR PANEL WAS THERE.
AND ARE THESE, UH, ADDITIONAL RECEPTACLES OR ARE THEY REPLACING EXISTING RECEPTACLES? SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME KEY LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY WHERE EACH OF THESE WOULD PROBABLY REPLACE A SINGLE RECEPTACLE.
AND THE THINKING ON THAT IS THAT, UM, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A RECEPTACLE, ONE OF THESE RECEPTACLES IN A CERTAIN AREA OF UPTOWN, IF WE SEE THAT IT IS GETTING FULL, THEN WE CAN ALSO ASSUME THAT THE OTHER RECEPTACLES THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, REGULAR TRASH RECEPTACLES THAT THE CITY USES CURRENTLY ARE ALSO FULL BECAUSE THE, UH, THE VOLUME OF THESE RECEPTACLES AND THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY USE ARE VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
SO IT ALMOST, UH, ACTS AS LIKE A PROXY INDICATOR FOR THAT.
AND WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED THESE? UH, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, IT'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
UM, RESIDENTS IN MANY PLACES HAVE BEEN EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE WRAPS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO HAVE AN AESTHETICALLY, UH, APPEALING TRASH RECEPTACLE.
AND, UH, THE, THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF VALUE IN JUST THE DATA THAT YOU CAN GENERATE FROM THESE, BECAUSE AS BRYCE MENTIONED, WHEN GOING OVER OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES, UM, DATA ON WASTE TRENDS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH.
I THINK THE FACT THAT WE COULD HAVE MESSAGING ON IS, IS TERRIFIC.
UM, JUST SPEAKING TO THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, WHERE I PREVIOUSLY LIVED IN RHINEBECK, UH, NEW YORK, WE PUT THESE IN AND IT WENT VERY QUICKLY FROM A PILOT PROGRAM TO YES, THIS IS GREAT.
UM, IT WAS A VERY, VERY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO THAT WANTED TO ADD THAT, BUT MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE, THE WRAPPING, THE MESSAGING THAT CAN, I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED AT THAT POSSIBILITY.
HOW OFTEN COULD THAT WRAPPING BE CHANGED? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PRETTY STATIC OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CHANGE QUARTERLY, MONTHLY TO GO WITH MESSAGING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO TARGET IN A TIMELY WAY? UH, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ENVISIONING THE WRAPS THEMSELVES TO BE STATIC.
ALTHOUGH IF DESIRED, WE COULD CHANGE THEM, UH, DOWN THE LINE.
THAT'S NOT OUR PLAN AT THIS TIME.
UH, THE SIDE MESSAGE PANELS, ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, WE COULD EASILY EXCHANGE THE MESSAGING IN THOSE, UH, A ROTATING BASIS.
WHEN YOU SAY EASILY, LIKE MONTHLY, WEEKLY, UM, YEAH, EITHER OF THOSE WOULD BE FINE.
SO THESE ARE BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WATERPROOF SIDE MESSAGE PANELS THAT WE CAN THEN PUT, UH, A PIECE OF PAPER OR SOMETHING ELSE INTO, UM, TO SHARE THAT MESSAGING.
SO IF WE DECIDE, HEY, WE WANNA TAKE, UH, SAY FIVE OF THESE RECEPTACLES AND PUT IN SOME MESSAGING TO ADVERTISE A NEW CITY PROGRAM, WE COULD EASILY GO OUT AND IMPLEMENT THAT EITHER, UH, THROUGH THE, THE MAINTENANCE STAFF OR POTENTIALLY OUR OWN.
SO YOU'RE PLANNING, I APOLOGIZE, UH, FOR 10 RECEPTACLES.
DO, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE LOCATED? YEAH.
SO IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, CITY MAINTENANCE TEAM, WE IDENTIFIED, UH, THOSE
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10 LOCATIONS AROUND TOWN.UM, WE HAVE FIVE PICKED OUT IN WEST SEDONA, UM, THREE IN UPTOWN AND TWO IN SOUTH SEDONA.
AND THE, THE, THE IDEA BEHIND SELECTING THESE LOCATIONS WAS, UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IN SOME AREAS THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC, HIGH VOLUME AREAS, UH, AND IN OTHER CASES THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN PLACES THAT ARE, UH, STILL HIGH VOLUME, BUT MORE OUT OF THE WAY.
SO IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES AND FUEL FOR OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF TO ACTUALLY GET OUT THERE ON A DAILY BASIS TO JUST CHECK THOSE RECEPTACLES AS THEY'RE DOING NOW.
SO, ARE ANY OF THESE GONNA GO TO TRAILHEADS? DO WE HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN TRAILHEAD TRASH? UH, YEAH.
SO OF THE SITES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED UP TO THIS POINT, UM, THREE OF THEM ARE AT TRAILHEADS.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHICH ONES BY CHANCE? YEAH, SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T FIRM, BUT THESE ARE THE, THE PREFERRED SITES WE'VE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME.
UH, THUNDER MOUNTAIN TRAILHEAD, AND SUGARLOAF TRAILHEAD IN WEST EDON, AS WELL AS OVER ON BACK OF BEYOND ROAD AT CATHEDRAL.
RIGHT? AT CATHEDRAL TRAILHEAD.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LOCATION OF, UH, THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THERE.
YEAH, I MEAN, THIS PROVIDES A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE MOST COMMON COMPLAINTS WE HAVE ABOUT OVERFLOWING TRASH CANS AT TRAILHEADS IN PARTICULAR.
AND IF WE COULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE WIN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE GRAPHICS SAY, STAY ON THE BLANKETY BLANK TRAIL, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAYS, THANK YOU.
UH, WHEN YOU SAY SOUTH, SOUTH SEDONA, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, CATHEDRAL ROCK TRAILHEAD? BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVY TRAFFIC, I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
I, WE, BRIAN AND I LIVE IN SOUTH SEDONA.
WHERE ARE YOU OTHER THAN THE TRAILHEAD, WHERE ELSE ARE YOU GONNA PUT THESE? YEAH, SO THE TWO LOCATIONS, UH, IN THE SOUTH PART OF TOWN THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED ARE THE CATHEDRAL TRAILHEAD, AS WELL AS THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE STOP, UH, ON BOW STRINGING.
THAT'S THAT ANSWERED THAT QUE I GET THAT.
UH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
SO THE NEXT PROJECT WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS THE, UH, UPCOMING SOLAR LIGHTING AT POTSY GROUNDS PARK.
SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT, UH, TO BE COMPLETED HERE IN THE FIRST HALF OF FY 24.
SO THE LARGER GOAL FOR THE PROJECT WAS TO IMPROVE, UH, PATHWAY PARKING LOT AND SAFETY LIGHTING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PARK.
UH, AND THIS WAS DONE IN COLLABORATION AND FEEDBACK WITH FROM PARKS AND RECREATION AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, AND SO IT'D BE, UH, SOLAR L E D BALLARDS AND PARKING LOT LIGHT STANDS THAT WOULD ARE DARK SKY COMPLIANT, UH, AND THAT ALL ARE SCHEDULED TO BE NARROW BAND AMBER, UH, VARIANCE OF THE L E D, UH, WHICH THAT WAS, UH, DONE IN CONSULTATION FEEDBACK FROM WELL OBSERVATORY ON THE, UH, MOST PREFERRED LIGHT OPTION, UH, THAT WOULD BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT FOR IT.
UH, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT NO ONGOING UTILITY BILLS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIGHTING, UH, COMPONENTS.
AND THEN WE AVOIDED, UH, ANY LONG, UH, UTILITY LINE TRENCHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BEEN DONE IF IT WAS A TRADITIONAL, UH, WIRED LIGHTING SET UP.
AND SO WE AVOIDED, UH, A LARGE, A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY AND ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF IT FROM AVOIDING THOSE, UH, HIGH COSTS FOR TRENCHING.
AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE, UH, PROGRAMMABLE LIGHTING CONTROLS.
UH, AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, ADJUST THE TIMES ON 'EM TO SHUT OFF AT A SPECIFIC TIME, UH, MAYBE GRADUALLY DIM OR THE LIKE, BUT WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN THE LIGHTING CONTROLS THEMSELVES, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THE FOLKS IN THE AREA.
AND SO IF THE PARK IS SHUTTING DOWN AT 10 O'CLOCK, THE PARK LIGHTS COME, THE SOLAR BALLARDS AND THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS COULD ALSO SHUT AT THAT TIME.
UH, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT OR THE, LIKE, THAT HAS FLEXIBILITY FOR US TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THERE, UH, VIA, VIA A WIRELESS, UH, APP THAT HAS THOSE CONNECTIONS.
UH, AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD.
SO THIS MAP HERE ON THE RIGHT IS JUST KIND OF, UH, KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
SO, UH, THESE SMALLER GREENER DOTS ARE FOR WHERE THE SOLAR BALLARDS ARE ANTICIPATED TO GO.
UH, JUST REALLY HIGHLIGHTING THE, UH, WALKWAY PASS AND THEN FOR THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING, UH, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE MAIN BALL FIELDS, UH, BY THE NEW PLAYGROUND, AND THEN UP BY THE, UH, TENNIS COURTS SLASH PICKLEBALL COURT AREA.
UH, AND THEN SOME MORE ADDITIONAL, UH, SOLAR BALLER LIGHTING ON THE WALKWAY THAT'S BY THE HUB.
UH, SO WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO GET AS MUCH COVERAGE WITHIN THAT AREA AS POSSIBLE TO IMPROVE ON THE SAFETY LIGHTING CONDITIONS IN THERE, UH, AND MAINTAIN DARK SKY COMPLIANCE, UH, FOR THAT.
SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT.
BRYCE, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, YOU CAUGHT ME ON MY ATTENTION ON, UM, THE WHOLE THING ISN'T MY ATTENTION, BUT THE AMBER LIGHTING, UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING AMBER LIGHTING, IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE CONCOURSE HERE ON CAMPUS, WHICH IS YOU, I WOULDN'T CALL IT AMBER OR WE HAVE SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, UH, BUILDINGS ON 89 A THAT HAVE AMBER LIGHTING AND, UH, I, I, I
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DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE, UH, L E D OR NOT, BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH, UM, COLORS AND CONTRAST.AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE AMBER LIGHTING? I DON'T WANNA GO ON AND ON, BUT YEAH.
SO THE, THE AMBER LIGHTING FOR THESE ONES IS, UH, A ASSOCIATED WAVELENGTH WITH THAT LIGHTING COMPONENT.
IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S LIKE 595 MILLIMETERS.
UH, UH, THAT MEANS NOTHING TO ME.
SO, YEAH, SO, UH, IT'S AT A, A SPECTRUM THAT IS MOST CONDUCIVE FOR NIGHT SKY VIEWING, UH, AND IS ALSO FROM, UM, FROM THE PRODUCER MANUFACTURERS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM, FROM, UH, WE'LL MAINTAIN COLOR, UH, CLARITY THROUGHOUT IT.
SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ISSUES WHERE THE LIGHTS, UH, KIND OF HAVE A GREEN TINGE TO 'EM OR WHATNOT.
THE, THE COLOR COMPONENT SHOULD BE VERY, UH, SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT, UH, THESE WOULD BE MOST CLOSE, SIMILAR TO THE ONES OUT AT SUNSET PARK, UH, THE, THE BALLARDS THAT ARE OUT AT THAT LOCATION.
IS THAT SIMILAR TO CAMPUS? YES, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE LAST BULLET THERE.
IT'S JUST KIND OF WORDED TO CAPTURE MY CURIOSITY.
WHAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM LOW OBSERVATORY AND ARE THEY HAPPY OR ARE THEY MAD? UH, SO WHEN I TALKED TO 'EM INITIALLY ABOUT, UM, UH, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, UH, SPACES, UH, I MEAN, THE FIRST COMPONENT IS DON'T INSTALL IT, UH, CUZ THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN AS LITTLE LIGHTING AS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE AREA, BUT IT WAS MORE ALONG THE LINES, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT, THE BANDWIDTH THAT IS MOST APPLICABLE FOR IT, UH, ARE THESE OPTIONS.
AND THEN HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH A LITTLE OBSERVATORY ON IT.
BUT, UM, THEY WERE, UH, FROM MY, UH, CON CONTACT PHONE CALLS WITH 'EM, THEY WERE HAPPY.
THEY WERE JUST, WE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THEM TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON, ON WHAT LIGHTING WOULD BE MOST CONDUCIVE FOR THEM VERSUS US JUST GOING FORWARD AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS OR WHATNOT.
SO, UH, WE WANTED TO BE COGNIZANT OF A REGIONAL PARTNERS IN THE AREA, FOR SURE.
AND THEN FOR THE LAST UPCOMING PROJECT, UH, THAT WE'LL HIGHLIGHT, I'LL HAND IT OFF BACK TO ZACH.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE PRESENTED TO, UH, THIS COUNCIL LAST TIME, UH, FOR OUR LAST UPDATE SESSION.
UH, BUT NOW THAT WE ARE JUST, UH, GETTING MUCH CLOSER TO ACTUALLY LAUNCHING IT, UM, JUST REITERATE, UH, THAT THE, UH, SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM IS, UM, A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED PROGRAM THAT'S SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS, UM, IN VARIOUS TOWNS AND CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM, UM, SOON AFTER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR STARTS.
UM, SO REAL QUICK, HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS WILL FORM A SMALL WORKING GROUP, UM, AND, UH, THEY WILL APPLY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THIS, THIS WORKING GROUP, UM, TO, UH, OUR PROGRAM.
AND IF THEY ARE ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM, WE'RE HOPING TO EX, UM, HAVE ENOUGH SLOTS FOR TWO NEIGHBORHOODS TO START OFF WITH, UH, FOR OUR FIRST YEAR.
UM, BUT ONCE THEY'RE ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM, THEY WILL THEN, UM, CONTINUE FOR THE REST OF THE, THE YEAR, UM, EXECUTING AND, UH, PLANNING DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND EVENTS AND INFO SESSIONS.
UM, AND, UH, THESE PROJECTS AND EVENTS WILL FALL UNDER, UH, FIVE KEY AREAS OF AIR, ENERGY, LAND, WATER, AND PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO AS THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING THESE PROJECTS AND EVENTS, UH, THE MORE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY ENGAGE WITH, UH, THE MORE POINTS AND CREDITS THE THEY'LL BE GAINING.
AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH POINTS OR CREDITS, UH, THEY'LL, THEY COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, RECOGNITION BY THE CITY, UH, EITHER ON OUR CITY WEBSITE, UH, OR IN-PERSON, UH, CONGRATULATIONS OR THANK YOU, UH, BY THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL, UM, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, BUILDING AND INSTALLING A SMALL SIGN OUTSIDE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AGAIN, JUST RECOGNIZING THEM FOR ALL THE, UH, PROGRESS AND, UH, PROJECTS AND EFFORT THAT, UH, HAS GONE INTO, UH, INTO ALL THESE, UH, PROJECTS AND EVENTS OVER THE YEAR.
UM, AND WE JUST SEE THIS AS A GREAT WAY FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY, UM, TO, UH, GET AND, AND, AND HAVE A DESIRE TO GET TO MORE, KNOW MORE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.
UM, THIS IS, UH, JUST A GREAT, UH, FUNNEL AND, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET INVOLVED AND PUSH, UH, THE CITY, UH, FORWARD IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DEFINES THE NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW BIG, UH, PROJECTS ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? SO THIS IS GONNA BE WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT, UH, US BRINGING THIS PROGRAM HERE.
UM, A LOT OF THE TOWNS AND CITIES THAT, UH, THIS PROGRAM ALREADY EXISTS IN, UH, HAS VERY WELL DEFINED NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, UH, AND IN SEDONA WE ARE, IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE LESS DEFINED AND, AND MORE BROAD.
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UM, SO IF WE WE'RE GONNA TRY AND FIND DEFINED NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT, UM, IF THAT'S JUST NOT WORKING, UM, WE MIGHT JUST OPEN IT UP.UH, WE MIGHT EXPLORE OPTIONS OF, UH, JUST CHANGING THE PROGRAM IN A WAY THAT SUITS THE CITY BEST.
JESSICA, IS THERE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW MANY PEOPLE, UM, WHAT SIZE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKS BEST FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS? UH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE WILL BE PROBABLY ONE OF THE SMALLEST CITIES.
UH, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CITIES, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SURE.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN CITIES.
IS THERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WORKS BETTER THAN OTHER? I MEAN, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING REAL LARGE OR IN, IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING THIS PROGRAM, ARE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE, UH, 2000 PEOPLE, 4,000 PEOPLE? YES.
UM, 4,000 WOULD BE HALF OF ALL HALF OF OUR POPULATION, SO PROB 4,000.
UM, WELL, ONE, I'LL SAY, UH, I CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT.
I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO, UH, THE PROGRAM DEVELOPER.
UM, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONNECTION WITH HIM AND, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH HIM.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE EXPLORING, UM, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE LAUNCH DATE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS MEANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER TO GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER.
SO I'M SURE THERE, THERE'S, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN SIZE AND IMPACT AND ALSO THE SOCIAL IMPACT WHERE I THINK THIS IS ENORMOUS POTENTIAL AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I JUST WONDERED ABOUT SOME OF THE PRACTICALITIES OF, AND PEOPLE I KNOW DO, PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AND, AND WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE, AND THEY LIKE WORKING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING SOME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS DEVELOPS A LITTLE FURTHER.
UH, YOU HAVE FOR QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT ALL? I THINK THIS IS, WE HAVE, UH, ONE MORE HAVE SUSTAINABILITY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS.
UH, SO THE LAST THING WE WANNA SHARE IS JUST THAT, UH, SO AS, UH, AS, UH, MAYOR MENTION THERE.
SO, UH, SUSTAINABILITY IS HAPPENING ACROSS DEPARTMENTS AT, UH, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UH, COMPONENTS TO IT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST US PUSHING A LOT OF THESE INITIATIVES FORWARD.
UH, AND SO TO SHARE, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, PROJECTS, UH, THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALSO UNDERTAKEN THAT HELP BOLSTER SUSTAINABILITY.
SO, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON OUTREACH AND THEIR COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE, AS WELL AS UPDATING THEIR NATIVE PLANT LIST.
THIS ENSURES THAT WE SUPPORT LOCAL BIODIVERSITY AND BUILD THAT SOCIAL COHESION FACTOR FACTOR, WHICH IN RETURN CREATES A MORE RESILIENT CITY.
PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN, UH, WORKING ON THEIR SEDONA AND MOTION PROJECTS, UM, THE SHARED USE PASS, THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES, AND AS WELL AS, UM, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.
THIS HELPS THE CITY REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS, HELPS RESIDENCES LEAD A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE, AND KEEPS OUR WATERSHED CLEAN.
THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON VARIOUS, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
UM, HUMAN RESOURCES, UH, THEIR EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION AWARD THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS HUMAN HEALTHCARE SCREENINGS AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS ENSURES THAT, UH, THE CITY REMAINS, UM, COMMITTED TO EQUITABILITY AND SUSTAINS ITS OPERATIONS.
THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT IS IN CHARGE OF THE AQUA AQUIFER RECHARGE STATION AND THE WETLANDS.
THESE PRECIOUS LANDS HELP OUR WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES AND INCREASE OUR LOCAL BIODIVERSITY, AGAIN, WHICH IS TO HELP CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR RESILIENT COMMUNITY.
THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS BEGUN A EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN AND, UM, HOSTING COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO GET THE WORD OUT.
THIS IS IMPERATIVE EFFORT AS WE NEED TO ALLOCATE, UM, EMERGENCY, UM, CONNECTIONS ACROSS TO OUR RESIDENCES, PARKS AND RECS CONTINUES THEIR EFFORTS WITH EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH AND MAINTENANCE SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO PRESERVE AND ENJOY A GREAT OUTDOORS.
AND SO, WITH THAT BIG THANKS TO
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EVERYBODY DOING ALL GREAT WORK ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ALL THOSE EFFORTS.AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND BACK OVER TO BRYCE.
UH, AND SO AS ABBY MENTIONED THERE, UH, ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE TACKLING A WIDE NUMBER OF THINGS, UH, AND THEY'RE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN PUSHING A LOT OF THESE INITIATIVES FORWARD AND HAVING TIES BACK TO CLIMATE ACTION PLANNING OR SUSTAINABILITY IN GENERAL.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY, UH, EXCITED TO WORK AND COLLABORATE WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS TO HELP THESE INITIATIVES, UH, AS THE CITY IS STRIVING TO MEET THOSE AMBITIOUS, UH, EVERLASTING AND, UH, THRIVING GOALS, UH, FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
AND SO WE'RE JUST, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEIR SUCCESSES.
IT'S NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT WORK THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE CITY.
UH, AND WE'RE HAPPY, HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT AND HELP PUSH IT FORWARD WITH THAT.
UH, AND WITH THAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON.
IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, FEEL FREE TO ASK WHY, UH, AS WELL AS CONTACTS THAT ARE SUSTAINED.
UH, BEFORE WE GO, I WANNA OPEN UP TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND, UM, YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON FOR, FOR THE TEAM? YES.
SO, I, SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS QUALIFY AS THE WASTE DIVERSION, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I CAPTURED THEM ALL.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE FOOD SCRAP, COMPOSTING, THE HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM, AND THE OAK CREEK CLEANUP.
WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU CONSIDER IN HERE IN THE, IN THE WASTE DIVERSION SORT OF CATEGORY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS SOMETHING.
UH, THOSE ONES, UH, I WOULD SAY OR SUMS UP THE, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM, UM, IF THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM, DEPENDING ON WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT EMBARK ON, MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMPONENT THERE FOR IT.
BUT OUR THREE MAIN ONES ARE THE ONES THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS GOES TO A POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP HERE PREVIOUSLY.
COUNCIL FERMAN BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT REDUCTION.
THE, THE DIVERSION IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT, UM, IN JUST REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF WASTE AND THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY USE.
SO, UM, YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THINKING IN ALONG THOSE LINES THAT YOU MIGHT SEE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
AS I SAID, I THINK THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, THAT PROGRAM IS TO EMPOWER THE RESIDENTS.
SO IF THEY DON'T WANNA DO THAT, I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO IT.
BUT, UM, IF THEY DID, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
AND JUST, UH, TO ADD TO THAT, UM, WE'D EXPLORING OPTIONS, UM, IN REGARDS TO WHAT, UH, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OR FOLKS UP OR FRIENDS UP AT CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAVE HAD WITH THEIR RECYCLING PROGRAMS. UM, AS WELL AS, UH, WE'VE MET WITH A FEW, UH, DIFFERENT ELECTRONICS COLLECTION PROVIDERS THAT HAVE KIND OF SPRUNG UP IN, UM, IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.
UH, AND SO I'M LOOKING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE EFFORTS TO GET MORE REGIONAL COLLABORATION THAT MIGHT GIVE ENOUGH OF A BASE TO MAKE, UH, CONTINUED OR EXPANSION OF OPERATIONS IN THE AREA VIABLE.
UH, SOMETIMES IF IT'S JUST SEDONA OPERATING IN ITS OWN SPHERE, IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH OF A BUSINESS ATTRACTION FOR WASTE, UH, COLLECTION OR ELECTRONICS COLLECTION.
SO I'M TRYING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR, UH, REGIONAL PARTNERS OR WHATNOT TO HELP TOBOLT OF THOSE EFFORTS.
WELL, WE ALREADY CLOSED OUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP BECAUSE IT WASN'T GIVEN TO THE CLERK.
SO YOU WANNA HAND IT OVER TO THE, THE, UH, WHAT THAT MAYOR, WHEN THIS IS DONE, ARE WE DOING MORE QUESTIONS? ARE WE DOING COMMENTS AND QU OR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TO WRAP IT UP? YEAH.
WELL, BEFORE WE WRAP IT UP, I WANNA GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND YES, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE.
I'M JUST ASKING WHAT OUR PROCESS IS WHEN IT RE RETURNS BACK HERE.
SO STEVE, WHY DON'T YOU COME AND, UM, MR. MAYOR, AND I'LL JUST TAKE A MINUTE, BUT I HAVE A BUNCH OF, I'VE BEEN FASCINATED BY THIS DISCUSSION, AND THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU YOU'RE DOING.
AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, MAYBE ONE, STEVE, IF YOU COULD PHRASE THE, THE QUESTION FOR ME, AND IT'S REGARDING STEVE, WE KNOW YOU AND WHERE YOU LIVE, BUT WE NEED YOUR NAME AND CITY PRESIDENT.
MY NAME'S DELE, CITY OF SEDONA.
SO ONE OF MY MANY QUESTIONS, JUST ONE IS ABOUT THE, UM, EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE AT POSSE GROUND PARK, THE DC FAST YARDING, UH, COUNSELOR FOLTZ.
I DO GO BY THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY JUST TO SEE WHO'S THERE.
AND IT IS GETTING A LOT OF USE BY PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO MEET OTHER EV OWNERS AND JUST TALK WITH THEM AND SEE HOW THE EXPERIENCE IS GOING.
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ELECTRIFY AMERICA, WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF VOLKSWAGEN CORPORATION AND COOPERATION WITH ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE COMPANY.AND SO IT IS A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS.
AND WHAT DOES THE CITY IS PROVIDING THE SPACE, THE FOR PARKING SPACES AT THE HUB, WHAT DOES THE CITY GET OUT OF IT? OR ARE THEY PAYING THE CITY FOR THE USE OF THE SPACE? AND HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN IF, IF, UH, SAY EXXON, EXXON MOER OR ARCO CAME TO THE CITY AND SAID, PLEASE LET US PUT SOME GAS PUMPS AT PAI GROUNDS PARK.
HOW IS IT? THAT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT MAYBE SOME, IT'S AN IRRELEVANT QUESTION.
MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF YOU COULD, UH, I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER TO ME RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU COULD ASK, UH, BRIS PERHAPS.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
QUESTIONS AND QUESTION AND OKAY.
SO BRYCE, THE FOUR OF YOU, ARE YOU THE SUM TOTAL OF SUSTAINABILITY TEAM AT THIS POINT? YEAH, THIS IS OUR SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.
YOU'RE NOT REALLY VOLUNTEERS PER SE, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU ARE GETTING PAID, I BELIEVE.
UM, I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO THAT.
UM, ON PAPER, THE AMERICORPS VISTA PROGRAM IS SORT OF A, UH, WORKING VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.
UM, SO WE DO, UH, GET A SMALL, UH, LIVING ALLOWANCE THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
AND THAT'S, YOU CALL IT A TERM, IT SOUNDED LIKE A PRISON SENTENCE FOR A MINUTE THERE, BUT, UH, ARE YOU EACH ON ONE YEAR TERMS HERE? IS THAT YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
THE VISTA PROGRAM IS, UH, ONE YEAR PLACEMENTS FOR THE MOST PART.
AND HOW IS IT THAT SEDONA HAS CONTINUED TO BE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET A CONTINU? IT SEEMS TO BE A CONTINUOUS STREAM OF, UH, AMERICORPS VISTA VOLUNTEERS.
UH, SO THE ALLIANCE, UH, NONPROFITS, UH, IS A REGIONAL PARTNER IN THE AREA THAT RUNS A A VISTA PROGRAM.
UH, AND SO I THINK FROM 20 20 19, 20 20 WAS THE FIRST, UH, YEAR THAT, UH, SEDONA HAD A SUSTAINABILITY VISTA.
UH, AND FROM THAT, UH, PARTNERSHIP, WE'VE HAD SOME SE UH, ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO FILL THAT POSITION.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, UH, TO PARTNER ON THE VISTA PROGRAM.
SO YOU ANTICIPATE CONTINUING BEING ABLE TO DO SO? IDEALLY, YES.
AND IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UM, AS I RECALL, HALF OF THE 50% REDUCTION IS ROUGHLY DEFINED WITH SPECIFIC INITIATIVES, AND HALF OF IT'S JUST A PLUG SAYING THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA COME UP WITH BIG IDEAS THAT'S GONNA GET US THE OTHER HALF THE WAY THERE TO THE 50% REDUCTION.
HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH DEFINING WHAT'S IN THE PLUG OF THAT OTHER 50% OF THE 50% REDUCTION? UH, I WOULD SAY AS A WHOLE, I THINK OUR, THE HOLDUPS AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL IS JUST GETTING, UH, AS, UH, COUNSELOR, UH, FIRM AND KIND OF MENTIONED IS JUST THE SCALE OF, OF WHICH THE, THE PROJECT GOES INTO.
AND SO, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE NOT, SO SOME OF THE EV ADOPTION STUFF IS COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR DIRECT HANDS.
WE HAVE SOME INDIRECT ABILITY TO HAVE EV CHARGER COMPONENTS AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO IT, BUT THAT ADOPTION IS STILL GONNA BE AT AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND THEN'S SOME REGULATIONS THAT MAY ENCOURAGE THAT, BUT IT'S KIND OF OUT OF OUR DIRECT CONTROL.
SO, UH, THOSE COMPONENTS ARE KIND OF, UH, DIFFICULT TO ESPECIALLY TACKLE ON VEHICLE EMISSION SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, BUT THE OTHER COMPONENT WITH LIKE APS UNISOURCE, THOSE COLLABORATIONS, UH, ARE GONNA BE NEEDED TO HELP GET THAT, THAT OTHER 50% MARK.
CUZ THAT'S, THAT'S LARGELY WHERE THAT COLLABORATION POINTS NEEDED TO HELP US PUSH THOSE INITIATIVES FURTHER.
AND THAT'S THE SCALE OF THOSE WOULD, WOULD INCREASE.
AND AS FAR AS COMMENTS GO, THEN I ASKED AT THE BUDGET MEETINGS TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF AN FTE GOES INTO SCORE KEEPING, UH, CARBON IN PARTICULAR, AND YOU ESTIMATED ROUGHLY HALF AN FTE.
I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO BE FOCUSED ON DELIVERING RESULTS AND MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT SCORE KEEPING.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UM, I I I LOVE THE SUSTAINA, SORRY, THE RESILIENCY, UH, INITIATIVES THAT YOU ALL ARE FOSTERING IN THIS SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM.
UM, OWEN, I, I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS A YEAR AGO, NOT OWEN, ZACK, SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT ONE SAYING THE OTHER'S NAME.
I THINK WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO, I THINK I WAS MENTIONING TO YOU GUYS OVER AT THE LIBRARY, LIKE, I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC PROGRAM THAT WILL HELP WITH, UH, IN SOME WAYS REBUILDING SOME COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN LOST BECAUSE OF STRS AND WHATNOT.
SO, UH, I, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REACH OUT TO THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORS, UH, TASK FORCE AS A POTENTIAL GROUP THAT COULD HAVE INTEREST IN THIS.
AND THEY'RE WELL ORGANIZED AND, AND WELL COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO IT COULD BE A, A GOOD PLACE TO, TO LOOK TO, UM, BEYOND THAT, I'M GRATEFUL THAT ALL OF YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO, YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING,
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AND YOU KNOW, JUST FOR SOME OF US, YOU'RE BRINGING US ALONG FOR THE RIDE.UH, AND WE NEED MORE EDUCATION AS IT, UH, PERTAINS TO YOUR INITIATIVES.
AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE, UH, ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS TODAY.
SO I, I AGREE, UM, WITH COUNCILOR FOLTZ A LOT, I THINK THE HUMAN ASPECTS OF SUSTAINABILITY ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S BEEN, IN MY OPINION, PRETTY BROKEN BY HIGH TOURISM, BY SHORT TERM RENTALS, BY A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS.
UM, I, I THINK THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE DOING WELL, OBVIOUSLY I THINK THE PROGRAMS YOU'RE DOING ARE AWESOME BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE DOING AWESOME STUFF.
WELL, MAYBE NOT BRYCE, BUT I TELL THE REST OF YOU THAT YOU'RE DOING AWESOME STUFF AND, AND GETTING TO PARTICIPATE IN THINGS LIKE BEING YOU KNOW, A, A, A CITIZEN SCIENTIST IS ALWAYS SORT OF A REALLY COOL AND FUN EXPERIENCE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD SO MANY PEOPLE REMEMBERING HOW TINY OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT GIVEN HOW MANY ROUTES WERE LIKE 15 MINUTES INSTEAD OF LIKE 30 OR AN HOUR, THAT, UM, YOU HAD MORE PEOPLE THAN YOU COULD POSSIBLY GIVE ROUTES TO.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AMAZING.
AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE AWARE OF IT, WHO WANTED TO DO IT, THAT IS KUDOS TO YOU FOR GETTING THE WORD OUT THERE AND GETTING OUR CITIZEN REENGAGED, WHICH IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.
AND I DO LOVE YOUR BLUE TREK BIKES.
I THOUGHT VERY NICE TURQUOISE AND TRAKS, YOU KNOW, FOR WHERE WE ARE.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT WHERE YOU'RE HEADED EVEN ON THE REALLY TOUGH, UM, STUFF THAT, THAT BRYCE BLOWS MY BRAIN EVERY TIME HE STARTS TO TALK ABOUT GREENHOUSE GASES AND HOW WE MODULATE, MODULATE THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, TRADE OFFS WITH WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE'S GOT SOLAR.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S AMAZING WORK.
UM, AND I, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR THE FACT THAT I THINK THAT THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO IS CRITICAL TO OUR, TO OUR COMMUNITY IN THE LONG TERM.
EVEN IF THE SHORT TERM FEELS LIKE WE BEAT ON YOU A LOT, UM, IN THE LONG TERM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL.
AND I HATE TO SEE OWEN AND ABBY GO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG ABBY'S GOT, OWEN, YOU MUST BE REALLY CLOSE TO YOUR END OF, OF TERM OR AT JAIL SENTENCE OR HOWEVER YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, ABBY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR INPUT.
UM, ZACH AND BRYCE, I HOPE YOU DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, ZACH, HAVE YOU, I MEAN, BRYCE, HAVE YOU REPLACED YOURSELF? UH, YEAH.
WE ARE ANTICIPATING A NEW TEAM MEMBER COMING ON IN, UH, MID-JULY.
SO WE'LL BE EXCITED TO INTRODUCE, UH, INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU.
BUT, UH, YEAH, NEW TEAM MEMBER WILL BE COMING.
SO YOU'VE MADE AN OFFER AND THEY'VE ACCEPTED? YES.
UH, SO I'LL ASK, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I'LL ASK YOU TO RESPOND TO STEVE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH ELECTRIFY AMERICA AND THEN SIMILAR TO, TO WHAT WE DID HERE WITH APS ON CAMPUS.
UH, SO THE, THE BENEFITS THAT WE GET FROM THOSE COMPONENTS AT NO COST INSULATION, UH, IS THAT IT'S AN OBJECTIVE.
THE PLANS FOR THE ELECTRIC CHARGERS ALIGN WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UH, ADDITIONAL GAS STATION PUMPS OR WHATNOT WOULD NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FROM A COMMUNITY PLAN OR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN PERSPECTIVE.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING, UH, THEY DON'T CHARGE US.
WE DON'T, OR WE'RE NOT CHARGING THEM FOR USE OF THE FACILITY OR WHATNOT, CUZ IT, THE, ESPECIALLY AT POSSE GROUNDS, THE UPGRADES THAT WERE DONE BY ELECTRIFY AMERICA AND APS IS EXTENSIVE.
UH, AND IT WAS A VERY HIGH COST THAT WAS, UH, WAS ABSORBED BY THOSE ENTITIES TO BE ABLE TO GET THE DC FAST CHARGERS FOR US.
SO, UH, THOSE COMPONENTS ARE JUST KIND OF A, A MUTUAL BLEND OF JUST, UH, WE'RE ALLOWING TO, UH, ENCOURAGE EV USE ON OUR PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE ALLOWING, UH, US TO GET A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
AND SO, UH, WITH THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN COMPONENTS, UH, THOSE THINGS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHETHER OR NOT WE DECIDED TO PUT, UH, GAS PUMPS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
IT WAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AND WE HOPE JUST THAT YOU WILL, WE WILL BE SEEING YOU WITH THE NEXT UPDATE.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING? UH, SO
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FOR ME, THE LAST DAY OF MY SERVICE IS AUGUST 14TH OF THIS YEAR.UH, IT HAS GONE BY EXTREMELY FAST, BUT WE'RE COMING UP ON ONE YEAR ALREADY.
UM, AND I WILL BE, UH, LEAVING AT THAT POINT.
I'VE ACCEPTED A POSITION ELSEWHERE.
OH, WHERE ARE YOU GOING? UM, I'M GOING TO SAN DIEGO TO WORK FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY REGIONAL AIRPORT AUTHORITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE.
AND ABBY, MY TERM, UH, IS JANUARY 16TH.
SO WE'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALSO FOR, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
YOU'RE JUST PHENOMENAL TEAM AND THANK YOU BRYCE, FOR STEPPING IN AND DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS ANY, UH, GAPS RIGHT IN THE TRANSITION.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, IT'S NOW 29, YOU KNOW, 2023 AND WE HAVE, UH, GOALS FOR 2030.
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DATA THAT WE CAN MEASURE WHERE WE ARE AGAINST THOSE GOALS? CAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT PLATFORMS AND DATA VERY HARD TO ACCUMULATE AND WE, WE NEED TO SET SOME BASELINE DATA IN WHICH TO MEASURE AND CAN WE SEE IN FUTURE UPDATES WHERE WE ARE TO THOSE GOALS? YEAH, I CAN DEFINITELY, UH, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH BASE, ESPECIALLY THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, WITH THE INVENTORIES THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE A, A GOOD SENSE OF KIND OF THE TRAJECTORY WHERE WE'RE HEADING.
UH, I CAN LOOK TO TRY TO BUILD IN SOME PROJECTION SYSTEMS, UH, OFF OF THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING THE, THE FOUNDATIONAL BASE WHERE THE DATA IS, UH, IS THERE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO START IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS TO TACKLE THOSE, THOSE COMPONENTS.
THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU AGAIN.
AND THANK YOU TO AMERICORPS AS WELL, THE VISTA VOLUNTEER, THIS REALLY SUCH A GREAT PROGRAM.
UM, I WAS GONNA FOLLOW UP ALSO ON THE CHARGING STATION QUESTION THAT CAME BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THESE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE IMPORTANT.
THERE WAS A BIG DOLLAR VALUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEING PUT IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THIS, WHILE IT ENCOURAGES THE PUBLIC TO USE CHARGING STATIONS AND MAKE SOME AVAILABLE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME HERE.
SO I, I SEE THAT THE CITY IS GETTING A BENEFIT BACK FROM THAT PARTNERSHIP, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE POINTS.
UM, I'M STRUCK BY THE IRONY THAT THAT YEAH, A HALF OF A FULL-TIME POSITION GOES TO DATA AND THAT WE WANNA ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, RESULTS AS OPPOSED TO JUST GETTING THE DATA AND THEN TWO SPEAKERS LATER, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR DATA.
SO YOU'RE DAMNED YOU DO, AND YOU'RE DAMNED IF YOU DON'T.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT BECAUSE WE ASK FOR DATA ACROSS EVERY DEPARTMENT ON ALL DECISIONS BECAUSE WE NEED IT, UM, AS A WAY OF, OF, UH, JUSTIFYING DECISIONS OR EVEN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING.
SO IT IS, ALTHOUGH IT CAN SLOW THINGS DOWN, IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE TIME AND EFFORT IN ON THAT DATA.
AND A QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS REGARDING THE HEAT MAPPING.
WILL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM AGAIN AND IN WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME? SO THAT WE CAN MAP NUMBER ONE IS, ARE THE RESULTS CONSISTENT? NUMBER TWO, AFTER WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME COMPONENTS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER MAPPING TO SEE WHERE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE MADE.
WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR BEING ABLE TO BE A FUTURE PARTICIPANT IN, IN THAT PROGRAM? YEAH, THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
UM, I'LL BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT FORWARD THAT FAR WHERE, UH, WE'RE DOING ANOTHER URBAN HEAT ISLAND STUDY MANY YEARS DOWN THE LINE AFTER WE'VE ADDRESSED, UH, UH, AND IMPLEMENTED AS MANY SOLUTIONS AS WE COULD.
UM, BUT, UH, WE ARE, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE EXPLORING, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, THAT WILL AGAIN, REQUIRE CITIZEN SCIENTISTS AND, UH, OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ENGAGED, UM, IN MORE DATA COLLECTION, UM, ON, ON THE SAME TOPIC, BUT, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCED TO IT.
AND, UH, THE LAST COMMENT THAT I WANNA MAKE IS, IS ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT I'M PROBABLY MOST EXCITED ABOUT, WHICH SHE'LL JUST SHOW YOU HOW MUCH OF A GEEK I AM, IS THE SUSTAINABILITY ACROSS DEPARTMENT SLIDE, THE ONE AT THE END THERE.
I MEAN, KAREN KNOWS, SHE'S HEARD THIS FROM ME FOR WHAT, FIVE, SIX YEARS NOW, RIGHT? ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS CROSS UN CONTAMINATION OF INFORMATION,
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UM, BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT, AMONG THE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT, LIKE COUNCILOR FOLTZ POINTED OUT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE COLOR SCHEME THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS USING, MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING IN SOME WAY.I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE NEXUS OF THAT INFORMATION IN, IN SOME WAYS.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS DEPARTMENT INTERACTING WITH PARKS, WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WITH ENGINEERING, WITH HOUSING, WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT AND, UM, ARE, I MEAN THE, OBVIOUSLY THE SLIDE SPEAKS TO THAT YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT TOO.
WANNA SEE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS CONTINUE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST REALLY WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD AS ENCOURAGING THAT YOU GUYS BUTT YOUR NOSE IN WHEREVER YOU CAN.
YEAH, BRYCE AND TEAM, THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.
AIRPORT AUTHORITIES IN CALIFORNIA ARE INTERESTING BEASTS.
I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA TRY AND SAY SOMETHING UNIQUE, BUT KATHY ALMOST STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER.
IN ADDITION TO THE THANKS TO THE STAFF, I DO WANNA THANK OUR CITY MANAGER FOR BEING ABLE TO BALANCE OUR PASSION FOR SUSTAINABILITY WITH FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND THE INTER THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL INTEGRATION.
I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING SOME, UH, REALLY GOOD WORK AND AT, AT THE RIGHT KIND OF DEPTH, SO THANK YOU JESSICA.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S PRETTY AMAZING WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE SHORT TIME YOU'VE BEEN IN OPERATION.
IT STRIKES ME THAT IT'S, YOUR PROGRAM IS SUCH A WEIRD MIX OF PRETTY ARCANE
SO IT'S PRETTY WIDE, WIDE RANGE OF STUFF THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
AND I KNOW WHAT IT GETS REALLY KIND OF TEMPTING TO SORT OF DEAL WITH THE TECHNICALITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO, WHERE THE, GONNA JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT WE MAKE OUR, UH, GOAL OF 50% REDUCTION.
BUT I AM, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND INCLUDING YOURS, HAS A, HAS A REAL FOCUS ON, ON THE COMMUNITY ASPECT.
AND I, UH, I'M, I'M EXCITED BY THAT.
I THINK THAT HAS, THERE IS A NEED FOR, FOR COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN SERVICE, I WOULD HOPE OF THE LARGER COMMUNITY, NOT JUST COMMUNITIES GETTING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR THEMSELVES.
I'M HOPING THE FOCUS OF, OF THE PROGRAM IS THE LARGER COMMUNITY BECAUSE I'VE, MY SENSE IS IN SO MANY CASES, THAT'S NOT PART OF, OF PEOPLE'S SOCIAL INTERACTION OF WHY PEOPLE GET TOGETHER.
AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY FOCUS DONE BY PEOPLE WHO, WHO LIVE TOGETHER.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND I APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A LOT ON YOUR PLATE AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S PRETTY EXCITING.
AND I TOO, JUST WANNA ECHO WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS SAID.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE THAT YOU PUT INTO, IT'S A LOT OF TIME.
SO I'M GONNA MS. OWEN AND ABBY.
WELL, ABBY WILL HAVE FOR A LITTLE BIT, OWEN, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING FROM ONE, FROM THE FIRE, UH, THE FRYING PAN TO THE FIRE OVER AT AN AIRPORT AUTHORITY.
I HAVE A LITTLE OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, SO YOU ENJOY THAT.
AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
IT MAY BE VERY LENGTHY, SO JUST HOLD ON THERE.
ITEM D, UH, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS. DO I SEE ANYBODY JUMPING UP AND DOWN? NO.
UH, IS ANYTHING ELSE? UH, NOTHING ELSE
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BEING SAID, THEN THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.