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GONNA WORK THAT WAY.[Historic Preservation Commission on August 14, 2023.]
OKAY, TWO O'CLOCK.DO YOU THINK I SHOULD JUST START IT? OKAY.
I'M GONNA CALL, CALL THIS EATING, EATING, MEETING.
I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, ALL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND, UH, CYNTHIA, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL FOR ME, PLEASE? SURE.
HOPEFULLY HE'LL BE HERE SHORTLY.
WE CAN JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHEN HE GETS HERE.
UM, WE'LL GO ONTO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
I JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN TO THE CITY ON BOTH OF THE LANDMARKS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NOW NEED TO TAKE PLACE.
I THINK ONE OF THEM IS GONNA HAVE TO BE THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE STAFF MEET WITH EACH OF THOSE, UM, UH, UH, UH, LANDMARK, UH, UH, OWNERS OR POSSIBLE LANDMARK OWNERS.
UM, AND THEN GO OVER, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING ON FROM THERE.
UM, AND WE'LL, WE SHOULD REALLY PROBABLY SCHEDULE THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN WITH THE STAFF ON, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKING NOTE OF WHAT THE TIMING IS FOR THE LAND.
UH, BY THE WAY, STEVE JUST GOT HERE AT TWO MINUTES AFTER FOUR
UM, SO AT, AT THIS POINT, WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE, GOING FORWARD.
I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.
I KNOW THAT BOTH OF THE HOME, BOTH OF THE LANDMARK, BOTH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REALLY ANXIOUS TO DO THIS.
UM, THEY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERY STEP, THEY UNDERSTAND EVERY STEP.
I THINK THAT, UH, UH, WENDY FROM TILLOCK IS PRETTY, PRETTY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THAT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE.
I DON'T THINK SHE THINKS THAT SHE NEEDS TO MEET WITH THE STAFF, SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO ACTUALLY EXPLAIN THAT TO HER, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TOLD THAT, THAT SHE HAS TO DO.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER OWNERS ACTUALLY DO WANNA MEET WITH THE STAFF.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND WANNA DO THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO DATE TO WHERE WE ARE.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
I KNOW WENDY WOULD REALLY LIKE US TO, UH, GET ON OUR HORSES AND, AND GET THIS DONE SO THAT SHE CAN ACTUALLY ANNOUNCE THIS FOR THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GET IT ALL DONE, BUT SHE CAN SAY THAT IT'S IN PROCESS, UM, FROM WHAT I'M TOLD.
SO, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO HER TO KNOW THAT IT'S IN PROCESS.
SO, UM, I THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR THE LANDMARKS.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO PUT IT ON RECORD HOW IMPRESSED WE WERE WITH HOW THE CITY ACTUALLY HA HANDLED THE, UM, UH, AT THE, AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, US FORESTRY SERVICE, UM, AREAS AND THE EXTERIORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE.
I THINK WE WERE ALL VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH AS THE IDEAS THAT WERE, UH, THAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MYSELF.
AND, UH, ALSO I THINK FOR BOTH, UH, UH, JACK AND BOB, BECAUSE WE, THAT MEETING WENT FAR TOO LONG AND WE COULD NOT ATTEND THE WHOLE MEETING.
WE WERE HERE FOR THE FIRST PART OF IT, BUT JACK AND I ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP WHEN WE GOT HOME AND WATCH IT ON, ON THE TELE.
SO, UM, WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW THE THOUGHTS BEHIND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PART OF THE, THE, THE PROJECT.
SO AT, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, UH, UH, ON YOUR, ON YOUR DESK, CYNTHIA, THAT YOU NEED TO ANNOUNCE FOR US? SURE.
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY HISTORIC PRESERVATION RELATED, BUT, UH, FOR THE PLAN, SEDONA EFFORT, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE, THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF HOUSING WORKSHOPS STARTING AUGUST 22ND.
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IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, UH, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THE PLAN SEDONA.COM WEBSITE.THAT'S A, THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST TO US.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSION THAT HAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE.
SO WE'LL GO ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JULY 10TH, 2023.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OF THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NO CORRECTIONS, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
I DO NOT SEE ANYONE HERE THAT IS IN THE PUBLIC ATTENDANT ATTENDING THAT.
SO WE'LL GO ON TO REGULAR BUSINESS.
A UPDATE FROM PUBLIC WORKS ON THE STATUS OF THE DESIGN PHASE OF THE INTERIOR REHABILITATION OF THE RANGER STATION, HOUSE AND BARN.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED A PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE FROM SWAN ARCHITECTS FOR THE DESIGN PHASE OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE AND THE BARN.
SO THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT SWAN ARCHITECTS IS PROPOSING, UH, FOR THE HOUSE, THEY'RE GOING TO PREPARE THE SELECTIVE DEMOLITION PLAN.
UH, THEY'RE GOING TO PREPARE A CONCEPTUAL ADAPTIVE USE PLANS, UH, REHABILITATE ORIGINAL OR EARLY INTERIOR FINISHES AND MATERIALS, RECONFIGURE INTERIOR SPACES AND AS NECESSARY FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE PLANS, UH, DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS TO MEET THE BUILDING AND ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU, SIR.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO DESIGN A SINGLE USER RESTROOM FOR THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE.
UH, DESIGN THE KITCHENETTE, UH, RECOMMEND AND SPECIFY INTERIOR FINISHES AND PAINT COLORS.
UH, DESIGN AND INTEGRATE HVAC POWER AND LIGHTING SYSTEMS. DESIGN GRADE CHANGES TO ELIMINATE RAMP OUT FRONT TO CHECK ON THAT ONE.
UH, PREPARE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS FOR BIDDING FOR USE BY J O C CONTRACT.
THE SCOPE OF WORK THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR THE BARN WOULD BE TO PREPARE THE CONCEPTUAL ADAPTIVE USE PLANS, UH, REHABILITATE ORIGINAL AND OR EARLY FINISHES AND MATERIALS.
UH, RECONFIGURE AN INTERIOR SPACES AS NECESSARY FOR ADAPTIVE USE PLANS, DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS TO BE BUILDING AND ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES.
UH, DESIGN ACCESS TO THE LOFT, UH, DESIGN AREA TO ACCEPT FOOD FROM VENDORS, INCLUDING A HAND WASHING SINK.
UH, RECOMMEND SPECIFY INTERIOR FINISHES AND PAINT COLORS, DESIGN, VENTILATION ONLY POWER AND LIGHTING SYSTEM.
PREPARE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS FOR BIDDING.
UM, THE TOTAL OVERALL, UH, FEE SCHEDULE COMES TO $49,680.
UM, THE FIRST PROPOSAL IS THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING, UH, FOR ROUGHLY $23,040, UH, WITH ALLOWANCES FOR, UM, FOR MEETINGS FOR PLOTTING AND PLOTTING AND PRINTING.
UM, CONVERTING OUR EXISTING DRAWINGS TO D W G FILES, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND M P E, WHICH IS MECHANICAL, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL, UH, ENGINEERING.
UM, THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTUAL, ONCE WE GET IT DESIGN APPROVED AND, UH, WE'RE READY TO GO, UM, THEY WILL BE DOING CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, WHICH IS BASICALLY THEY WOULD REPLY TO ANY RFIS REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM CONTRACTORS THAT WOULD BE DOING THE JOB, UH, MAKING THEMSELVES AVAILABLE FOR SITE VISITS TO ENSURE THAT THE DESIGN IS BEING IMPLEMENTED AS PROPOSED.
UM, I WORKED WITH THAT TYPE OF, UM, CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REMODEL PROJECT.
SO IT'S VERY NICE TO HAVE THE, THE DESIGNER ARCHITECT INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL PROJECT.
SO, UM, SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCOPE A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS ARE WHAT WE DISCUSSED DURING OUR SITE VISIT.
AND, UM, WHAT, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE USE OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE, AND I THINK YOU SEE THE DATE, WE JUST RECEIVED THIS ON FRIDAY, SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THIS TOO MUCH YET.
UM, BUT SINCE WE HAD THIS MEETING, WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS SCOPE TO THE COMMISSION AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DISCUSSION ON THE, THE POTENTIAL USES OF THESE FACILITIES.
THE INSIDE OUR GOAL, UM, THE WORD I USE IS VANILLA.
WE WANNA PROVIDE A SAFE SPACE.
AND, UM, FROM THERE PEOPLE CAN ADD THAT'S CHOCOLATE SPRINKLES, WHATEVER THEY WANT.
SO OUR INTENT IS TO, UM, CLEAN THE BUILDINGS
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UP SO THAT THEIR USABLE SPACES AS, AS THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL AND, UM, THE, THE RESIDENTS ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT HOW THESE SPACES CAN BE USED.AND THEN THAT GIVES, UM, EVERYONE TIME TO COME TO A CONSENSUS AND GIVE US DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S OUR INTENT AND OUR THOUGHT ON MOVING FORWARD.
SO I HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, YOU MENTIONED A KITCHENETTE FOR THE, IS THAT, I, I DON'T REMEMBER US DISCUSSING THAT IN THE PAST.
I REMEMBER US DISCUSSING THE RESTROOMS, BUT THERE WAS A DECISION NOW THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE A KITCHENETTE IN THERE TOO.
'CAUSE THAT'S SORT OF NOT IN THE, IN A KITCHENETTE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUT IN THERE, IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE, WHEN, WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT.
SO I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING IS, IS THAT, WAS THAT ADDED, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT YOU THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE DONE? IT'S ACTUALLY, IT WAS, IT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR BASICALLY A SMALL KITCHEN IS IN, CURRENTLY IN THE HOUSE NOW.
WHEN THAT WAS ACTUALLY PUT IN, UM, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN THIRTIES OR FORTIES.
UM, SINCE THEY DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GETTING WATER FROM THE PUMP HOUSE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET RUNNING WATER IN THE HOUSE, RUNNING WATER.
UM, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK TO MAKING IT VANILLA, WE WOULD JUST HAVE IN THE KITCHEN AREA, IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE A SMALL BANK IN MY MIND, OF, OF CABINETS WITH A COUNTERTOP, A SINK.
AND IS THAT GONNA BE A, LIKE FOR MICAH COUNTERTOP OR HOW, I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALL FINISHES REALLY HARD.
THE FINISHES, THOSE ARE ALL FINISHES THAT WE'RE NOT, AND THOSE ARE FINISHES.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DECIDE ON YET.
BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I, I THINK PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO REFLECT WHAT WAS GOING ON, EVEN IN THE THIRTIES AND FORTIES, WE'D WANT TO SORT OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, AND CERTAINLY THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE HAD PROBABLY WOULDN'T CABINETS, I DOUBT AT THAT TIME IT WOULD'VE BEEN, AND THEY PROBABLY WERE PAINTED, THEY PROBABLY WERE WOODEN AND PAINTED.
I HAVE A QUESTION THAT KIND OF BRINGS UP A DISCUSSION.
I DON'T SEE, ARE WE TRYING TO KEEP THE INTERIOR RETRO OR TO PERIOD, OR HAVE WE GIVEN UP IN SAYING THAT SINCE THEY'RE GONNA TURN IT INTO A WHATEVER, USE, SMALL, SMALL MEETING USE, IS THE INTERIOR JUST UP TO BE UPGRADED FOR USE OTHER WORDS, IT'S GONNA BE JUST MADE TO BE USEFUL, OR ARE WE GONNA STRIVE TO MAKE IT SEMI HISTORIC? WHICH TO ME SEEMS A LITTLE WEIRD BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY SCREWING IT UP THE INTERIOR.
SO MR. WHY BOTHER TO TRY TO IT KEEP IT OLD AND FASTER WHEN WE'RE GONNA PUT IN MICROWAVES A NEW SINK, MAYBE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO COMMISSIONER NER, WE MET WITH THE ARCHITECT ON SITE.
WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IS THE CONCERN WITH WHAT'S BEHIND THE PANELING.
AND OUR CONCERN IS THE NUMBER OF RODENTS AND FECES THAT ARE BEHIND THOSE.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GETTING IN THERE AND CLEANING THIS UP AND, UM, PULLING SOME OF THOSE THINGS LIKE WE DID IN THE BARN THAT WERE NOT HISTORIC.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP, SO IT'S NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND WITH ELECTRIC, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, PUTTING ANY FINISHES DOWN.
I'M, WE'RE NOT PUTTING CARPETING DOWN.
WE WANNA REFINISH THE FLOOR IN THE KITCHEN, THE WOOD, AND PUT IT BACK TO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
WE'RE NOT SAYING RESTORATION OR, UM, ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO RIP THAT OUT.
WELL, AND, AND, AND POSSIBLY MAYBE WARDEN BATTEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE INSIDE INSTEAD OF JUST, JUST PLYWOOD PANELS, OR IS ARE WE JUST GONNA PUT PLYWOOD UP AND PAINT IT? IS THAT, NO, I THINK, UH, ONCE WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECT IS WITHIN HIS SCOPE OF WORK IS SAYING HE'S GOING TO RECOMMEND OR SPECIFY INTERIOR FINISHES, SO MM-HMM.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU AND MM-HMM.
BUT I, I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WHAT, WHAT STEVE IS SAYING, IF, IF WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT SHEET ROCK ON THE INSIDE AND MM-HMM.
AND JUST CLEAN IT UP, THEN THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO DO WHAT WE WERE THINKING IT WAS GONNA DO.
UM, SO, AND, BUT I, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU'RE GONNA, THOSE, THOSE THINGS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO STICK WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE MORE HISTORIC MET, WOULD'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE MM-HMM.
SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WE JUST WANNA SEE WHAT IT IS AT THAT POINT.
UH, BOB, UH, WELL, IN ADDITION TO THE KITCHENETTE, UH, WHY COULDN'T PEOPLE JUST USE THE RESTROOM THAT IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING, THE COMPLEXES? AND IS THERE, I MEAN, IS THERE A NEED? BECAUSE THAT'S CERTAINLY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A MODERN RESTROOM AND
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THEY'RE IN THE THIRTIES, TWENTIES, BACK IN THAT PERIOD.AND SO I, I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THERE IS SO MUCH, UH, NON HISTORIC CONSTRUCTION GOING ON THAT, THAT I, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
IT, HOW DO YOU, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE CALLING NON HISTORIC, BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.
WE NEED TO TAKE THE FECES AND THE DEAD ANIMALS OUT AND, AND GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE PULLING PANEL OFF SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS SO THEN WE CAN MOVE AHEAD.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE SCOPE, IS YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WE, AND LIKE I SAID ON MY INTRODUCTION AS WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP.
SO THE FINISHES IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DECIDED BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD WITH GETTING THE PLUMBING CLEANED UP AND THE ELECTRICAL IN AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL, UM, AND WANTS TO DIRECT US ON HOW WE MOVE AHEAD, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE WANNA GET THE ARCHITECT ON BOARD SO THAT WAY WE CAN START LOOKING AT WHAT THE BONES ARE, WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THERE, AND HOW WE CAN MOVE AHEAD FROM THERE.
AND THAT GIVES YOU ALL TIME TO DISCUSS ON, ON HOW YOU WANNA TO BE FOUND.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, YES, IT HAS A BATHROOM MM-HMM.
UM, DOES IT NEED TO BE A D A AND THAT'S THE QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE.
WELL, I, NOW I DON'T, BUT DO WE KNOW THAT'S THE QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I RUN INTO A D A AND WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SMOKE AND MIRRORS SOMETIMES, SO YES.
UM, YOU WOULD, SINCE IT'S A SINGLE BATHROOM, UH, AWAY FROM IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THE OTHER ONES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, AADA A COMPLIANT.
UH, YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT AADA A COMPLIANCY WITH THE RAMP THAT'S GOING UP TO IT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE REST OF THE THINGS.
SO IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN A D A, I WOULD THINK RESTROOM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE CASE.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT BOB IS SAYING.
IT WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET AN, AN ANTIQUE TOILET IN THERE AND WELL, YOU CAN, AND ALL OF THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
BUT THAT, THAT, THAT DOES NOT WORK WITH THE COMPLIANCY OF THE, OF, OF AADA A I DON'T THINK, UH, AGAIN, I, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WHAT, UH, SANDY SAID IS THAT THESE ARE THINGS WE, THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE SAY IT'S AN A D A TOILET, WE ALL HAVE THIS THOUGHT OF THAT HUGE ROOM WITH STRAIGHT WALLS AND, AND THE THE GRAB BARS.
WE, THAT PROBABLY IS TRUE TOO.
ONE, ONE COMMENT IS I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESTORATION ON TWENTIES AND 30 YEAR OLD BUILDINGS, THE INTERIOR COMMODES LIGHT FIXTURES, THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE MM-HMM.
AND THEY AREN'T PARTICULARLY EXPENSIVE.
SO I THINK IF YOU NEED SOME HELP, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO PUT IT BACK INTO SOME SEMBLANCE OF CLOSE USE BEADBOARD, UH, THERE ARE FINISHES WE CAN GO WITH, UH, WE CAN FIND THE SINKS AND WE CAN FIND THE TUTORIALS YOU NEED THAT WOULD FIT THAT PERIOD.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL OVER, FRANKLY.
I, I THINK A D A IS MORE, MORE IN TERMS OF SIZE, SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A WHEELCHAIR IN THERE AND YOU CAN GET, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MOVE AROUND WITH THAT.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE GONNA BE MORE CRITICAL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING A D A IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, IT, YES, IT'S SIZE, IT'S HEIGHTS, IT'S UH, UH, DISTANCES FROM WALLS.
WELL, I THINK ALL WE ASK IS WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THAT SPECKING OUT LIGHT FIXTURES IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS, SPEC IT OUT AND GIVE IT TO US AHEAD OF TIME.
AND LET US DO A LITTLE RESEARCH, AND I THINK WE CAN BRING YOU ZACH, SOME IDEAS AS OPPOSED TO GOING DOWN DEPOT LIGHTING AND JUST PUTTING IT UP ON THE WALL.
WE CAN FIND YOU THINGS OF THE PERIOD.
WELL, AND I, I, I'M, I'M, IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT, THIS, THIS, THIS ARCHITECTURAL COMPANY ACTUALLY DOES, UH, UH, DOES RESTORATION WORK.
SO, UM, I'M, I THINK THEY'D BE FINE WITH US TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT IT AND, AND COMING UP WITH THINGS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND ITEM FOR THE SCOPE OF THE, THE HOUSE, THERE'S PREPARE CONCEPTUAL ADAPTIVE USE PLANS.
AND ALSO FOR THE BARN, IT'S THE FIRST ITEM IS PREPARE CONCEPTUAL ADAPTIVE USE PLANS.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND INPUT FROM COUNSEL AND, UM,
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I'M ASSUMING, UM, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.SO, UM, AGAIN, THE SCOPE KIND OF LAYS IT OUT ON THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
AND, UM, IT ALSO, ALL THESE PLANS WILL NEED TO BE RUN THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CYNTHIA AND STEVE AND THEIR TEAM.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE CERTAIN FROM THE ARCHITECT ABOUT WHEN THESE THINGS WILL BE DELIVERED? WE JUST GOT THE CONTRACT ON FRIDAY.
SO YOU'RE STILL, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, WE HAVEN'T EXECUTED THE CONTRACT YET.
WE HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD ON ANYTHING YET.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS TOO,
THAT HASN'T, THAT PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN DONE YET EITHER.
SO JUST TO, TO KIND OF PUT A BOW ON IT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS DISCUSSING FINISHES DOWN THE ROAD, BUT LIKE, THIS REALLY IS JUST HOW TO MAKE THIS OLD BUILDING FUNCTIONAL IN 2023, CORRECT.
IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND MAINTAINING ITS HISTORICAL, UM, ATTRIBUTES AND, AND NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO THAT AT ALL.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT A HISTORICAL PART OF THAT BARN.
SO, UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T PLAN ON CHANGING THE STRUCTURES AT ALL.
WELL, AND WE'VE SORT OF GONE FROM A TO B AND, AND
SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, BOB? YES.
ARE WE IN DISCUSSION NOW? YEAH, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION OF THAT.
I, I'M JUST CONCERNED AGAIN, THAT ONCE YOU START DOWN THIS PATH AND PUTTING IN A MODERN OR EVEN A REPLICA OF A RESTROOM AND, AND KITCHEN EDIT, THAT TYPE OF THING, IT'S, THERE'S A TENDENCY NEVER TO TURN BACK.
YOU JUST KIND OF CONTINUE TO, TO, UM, MODERNIZE IT OR USE IT FOR, OR ADAPTIVE USE OF SOME OTHER THING OTHER THAN AS AN HISTORIC INTERIOR OF A BUILDING.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR INTERIORS, BUT I JUST HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR RANGER STATIONS.
AND, AND SO I, I, I'M ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF ALL THE CLEANUP TYPE WORK, PULL WALLS OUT, GET THE DEAD RATS OUT.
I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR YOU'RE DOING THAT, BUT I'M JUST, JUST DISAPPOINTED THAT IT CAN'T JUST BE CLEANED UP AND THEN WAIT TO REALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE REAL ADAPTIVE USE IS GOING TO BE AS OPPOSED TO ADAPTIVE RESTORATION.
SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, AND I'M STICKING TO IT.
BOB, DO YOU HAVE A POINT, NATE AHEAD? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE, THE COMMISSION AND STAFF KNOW, UM, THAT, UH, BOB AND I, UM, SPOKE THE OTHER DAY AND WENT OUT THROUGH HIS RESEARCH THAT HE'S DONE.
UM, AND, AND I DO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HUGGINS FOR, FOR SHARING, UM, YOUR RESEARCH, UH, WITH ME AND, AND HAVING THAT CHAT.
AND WE AGREED THAT, UH, WE WOULD DRAFT A LETTER AND SEND IT OFF TO THE, UH, FORESTRY SERVICE OFFICIAL HISTORIAN AND ASK, UH, FOR WHATEVER INFORMATION THEY HAVE.
SO, UM, AND WE'LL SEND THAT OUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK.
I THINK BOB JUST REVIEWED IT AND GAVE THE, OKAY.
SO, UM, JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING, LOOKING, STILL LOOKING TO, TO CONFIRM INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE, UH, OF THE SITE, WHICH I THINK, I THINK THAT REALLY WORKS.
I THINK I, I, I CAN SEE THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA MOVE AHEAD AT LIGHTNING SPEED.
I CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING BECAUSE YOU, THE, THE CITY STILL HAS TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HERE.
I'M SURE THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA JUST BE DONE TOMORROW.
UM, SO, UM, BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE OF IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE, UM, BOB AND NATE HAVE GOTTEN THE INFORMATION BACK FROM THE FOREST SERVICE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS PROPOSED AS FINISHES THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL COME BACK TO US AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE A DISCUSSION.
I, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH.
I THINK, I THINK THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WHATEVER IT IS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS GOING TO BE DONE.
AND, AND LIKE BOB SAID, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR US.
UM, I, I HAVE TO FEEL SORT OF IN A WAY, GUILTY FOR HAVING HAD THE CITY BUY THOSE BUILDINGS YEARS AGO.
I WAS THE ONE THAT TALKED TO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL INTO DOING IT.
AND, UM, BUT, BUT WE WANTED TO SAVE IT THEN.
AND, AND I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS GOING A LONG DISTANCE TO
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MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.AND I THINK THAT WE JUST WANNA PROCEED IT AS IT NOT SUCH SPEED THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY ACCOUNT FOR HOW IT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN.
AM I NOT RIGHT, BOB? WITH THAT SORT OF
KINDA SORT OF WHEN WE GET READY, ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY VOTE REALLY NECESSARY.
I THINK WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS JUST BRINGING TO US SO THAT WE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS SAYS FOR ACTION, DISCUSSION, AND ACTION.
AND THAT GENERALLY MEANT, YEAH.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING, BECAUSE THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING IN HERE THAT SPEAKS TO THE FINISHES THAT THEY'RE GONNA USE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO I THINK AT THIS STAGE, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD AND CLEANING EVERYTHING UP IS WHAT THEY WANNA BRING TO US AND SHOW US THAT IT'S BEING DONE.
AND FOR QUITE A BIT OF MONEY,
IT'S GONNA COST THE CITY MORE THAN IF I WAS TO DO IT OR SOMEBODY, BECAUSE YOU GO THROUGH THE PARAMETERS AND ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY AND IT'LL, I'M SURE IT'LL BE DONE CORRECTLY.
I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY COULDN'T WALK ACROSS THE PARK AND USE THE BATHROOM.
I, I, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY, AND THAT TOO, AGAIN, IT'S THE CITY AND IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE RESIDENCE OR EVEN A BUSINESS.
IT'S THE CITY AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA HAVE MORE HOOPS THAT YOU HAVE TO DROP, JUMP THROUGH THAN, UM, THE REST OF US WOULD PROBABLY, I WOULD THINK, BUT YEAH.
CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE? YES, GO AHEAD, BOB.
I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE BARN I THINK IS JUST EXCELLENT.
I MEAN, I, EVER SINCE THEY STARTED THIS PROJECT, I THOUGHT THE WAY THE CITY WAS HANDLING THE BARN WAS, WAS AN EXCELLENT WAY.
AND, AND, UH, I HOPE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE AT LEAST SOME OF THE WALLS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, WITH DETACHABLE EXHIBITS OR WHATEVER.
AND I DON'T WANT ANYTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BARN, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I AM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SO POSITIVE ON THE RANGER STATION.
I, I JUST, UH, I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED, BUT THE CITY WILL DO WHAT THE CITY WILL DO.
I, I'M, I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE BOB'S COMING FROM, BUT I THINK, I THINK, UM, MAKING THIS A, A FEASIBLE AND VIABLE, UH, BUILDING IS, IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO.
AND SO WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS, IS, IS GETTING IT THERE.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY, NATE? NOPE.
UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN, AND MAYBE YOU FOLKS CAN HELP, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE WENT ON THE RECORD, AND THAT IS THE USE OF THE OWENS B DITCH.
UM, UH, I BELIEVE BECAUSE WE'RE A MUNICIPALITY THAT WE HAVE SOME LEVERAGE AND THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO IN FACT, USE THE DITCH.
UH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNLESS WE DO A LITTLE WORK ON IT.
I, I, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE REALLY DISCUSSING HERE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO IF THERE'S ANY WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR EIGHT YEARS.
AND WELL, AND SO IT'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING FOR EIGHT YEARS AND NOT HAVE IT LOOKED AT OR AT LEAST DISCOVERED.
WE TALKED AT DAY ONE ABOUT DOING COMMUNITY GARDEN USING SBY DITCH.
USING PLANTING FOR MAYBE APPLE TREES OR SOMETHING.
JUST TO SHOW TIE INTO THE APPLE BACKGROUND.
WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND THE SBE DITCHES RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT EGRESS AND, UH, TO AK SO WE CAN TIE IN OUR WALKING DISTRICTS THROUGH TAKAKI'S PARKING LOT.
THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY'VE KIND OF UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
WELL, AND I THINK THAT, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF WHERE WE ARE.
WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION WITH NATE BEFORE, WITH THE OWENBY DITCH, AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT THAT CONNECTION MAY HAVE BEEN BROKEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRING UP IN FUTURE.
WELL, I'M, I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.
AND IF NOTHING ELSE, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
WE CAN DO A DISPLAY TALKING ABOUT IT, SHOWING IT, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
YOU CAN, YOU COULD PUT A, A SUMP AND PULL FROM IT IF YOU NEED IT TO PULL FROM IT.
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WAY OFF OF WHAT WE, WE CAN ACTUALLY DISCUSS TODAY.SO
SO I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT AND, AND LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE FACT FOR THE FUTURE MEETINGS.
LET'S PUT IT ON AN AGENDA FOR MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING, UM, THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.
BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, THIS ISN'T, WE'RE SORT OF OUT OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'VE HAD HERE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT WITH, UH, ANYTHING THAT SWAN PROPOSED HERE OR ANYBODY? NOPE.
COULD YOU JUST, UH, LET US KNOW ABOUT THE, THE CITY'S PROCESS ONCE YOU RECEIVE THIS, THIS CONTRACT? UH, IT GOES TO LEGAL.
IT GETS APPROVED BY COUNCIL OR, OR CAN YOU TELL WELL, WE SHARE THAT WITH US.
SO WE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE SCOPE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE CONSULTANT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING FOR THIS AMOUNT.
AND SO LARRY AND I, UM, WILL BE GOING THROUGH IT AND DISCUSSING THE CONTRACT WITH MR. SWAN.
AND THEN ONCE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRICE AND THE SCOPE, THEN WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS FOR LEGAL TO REVIEW AND THEN GET SIGNATURES SINCE IT'S SO, AND, AND THAT'S GONNA BE HOW, I GUESS, THE TI TIMEFRAME.
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THAT TOO? WELL, NOT REALLY.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT COULD, THAT, THAT COULD FLUCTUATE, BUT, UH, DOES IT, I GUESS MY BIGGER QUESTION IS DOES THIS FOR THIS AMOUNT, DOES THIS NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL? NO, IT WOULD NOT UNDER 50, JUST BELOW 55.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.
UM, WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I THINK, UM, WE'VE SORT OF COVERED EVERYTHING FOR THIS MEETING AND, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TALK AND, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, AND I, AND, AND YOU, IF YOU DO MAKE CHANGES, IF YOU MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WILL BE, BUT IF THERE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CHANGES WITH YOUR ATTITUDE ABOUT WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY PRESENTING AND HOW HE'S GOING TO DO IT, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD LET US KNOW THAT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT, THAT, THAT WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW IF, IF, IF, IF, IF THIS DOESN'T DEVELOP IN THE WAY YOU EXPECT IT TO OR WHATEVER.
WELL, EVEN IF IT DOES, I, WE'LL CHECK IN WITH YOU GUYS AND, AND GIVE YOU UPDATES AS WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU.
AND, UM, WE CAN GO ON TO NUMBER SIX HERE, WHICH IS JUST FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK IF WE'RE SETTING AGENDA ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO SET THE ON BE DITCH AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
UM, BEFORE THIS, AND MAYBE THE CITY COULD COME BACK WITH SOME GRAPHS AND MAPS OF THAT AREA AND WHERE THE OBE SITS AND, UH, MAYBE WE COULD CONTACT THE OMSS B, UH, DITCH ASSOCIATION AND FIND A, IF WE HAVE THEM COME TO THE MEETING HERE TOO.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A YES, CYNTHIA.
UH, I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME RE RESEARCH WE CAN DO, AND SOME OF THAT RESEARCH MIGHT SHOW THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS TO THAT.
AND IF THAT'S THE RESEARCH WE FIND, WE CAN EMAIL THAT TO EVERYBODY.
I, I I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY RIGHTS.
I'M THE NOT, DOES NOT HAVE RIGHTS.
NO, I'M SAYING THAT I, I AGREE.
I DON'T THINK YOU DO, BUT I THINK THAT RIGHTS CAN BE, I'M A NEIGHBOR.
I USE IT, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON OUR CORNER LOT.
I THINK WE HAVEN'T LOOKED TO SEE IF RIGHTS CAN BE TRANSFERRED OR, OR THEY WOULD OFFER US USE OF THE WATER IF WE WERE TO ASK.
UH, BECAUSE, AND THAT YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT THING I THINK.
I THINK, YEAH, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, UH, BEFORE THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT HAS BEEN BROKEN, BUT WHAT STEVE IS SAYING, IT RUNS, IT RUNS 24 HOURS A DAY.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE CHAIN OF USE, THE CHAIN OF WHETHER, WHETHER THIS PIECE PROPERTY USE IT, ANYBODY UPSTREAM OR ABOVE THE DITCH HAS NO RIGHTS, AND THAT PROPERTY IS ABOVE THE DITCH.
SO WATER WOULDN'T FLOW UPHILL.
THEY WOULD AUTOMATICALLY NOT BE IN PART OF IT.
BUT, BUT IT COMES ALONG AND DOES A RIGHT HAND TURN GOES UNDERNEATH MY PROPERTY AND POPS OUT WHERE IT MAKES THAT TURN.
IF WE TALK TO THE DITCH PEOPLE, WOULD THEY LET US DO SOMETHING, ASSIST TURN OR SOMETHING WHERE THE WATER WOULD FILL BACK UP AND WE COULD USE IT AS A RESOURCE TO KIND OF SAY THAT WE'RE SELF-SUSTAINING SOME OF THIS WATERING WE'RE REDOING OR SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SO THAT, THAT I, THAT THINK THAT'S, I'M SAYING THAT'S WELL WORTH THE DISCUSSION, THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, UM, FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WORRY ABOUT WATER AND WE WORRY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE GRASS THERE, UM, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD, WE COULD DISCUSS.
AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
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AT THE NEXT MEETING, I, I AM HOPING THAT WE'LL HAVE A, WE'LL HAVE MADE SOME ADVANCEMENTS, WE, THE LANDMARKS THAT WE'RE DOING, AND I HOPE TO HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT, NEXT TIME.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE US, UM, START, LOOK TAKING A PEAK AT A COUPLE OF, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DE DISTRESSED OR AT RISK PROPERTIES, BUT, UM, RAINBOW'S END, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR HAS SOLD.
UM, AND I, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT AND IF WE CAN LANDMARK IT OR SHOULD LANDMARK.
UM, AND THE OTHER IS THE, UH, TREASURE ART GALLERY BUILDING OUT ON 1 79.
RAINBOWS IN, WE TRIED TO DO YEARS, YEARS AGO, COULDN'T DO.
WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, AND THERE WAS SO MUCH CHANGE, CHANGE IN THE BUILDING.
WE WE COULDN'T DO IT, THAT IT REALLY DIDN'T QUALIFY, UNFORTUNATELY.
WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO WAS, THEY TALKED ABOUT US DOING THE BACK END OF THAT BUILDING POSSIBLY.
UM, STEVE, YOU HAD A, A MENTION ON, UH, YES, THANK YOU.
I JUST CAME FROM A MEETING WITH ARIZONA WATER AND THEY DISCUSSED THAT, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION IN CHANGING THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THEY, THEIR INTENT IS TO USE THE BUILDING AS IT IS, AND THEREFORE, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE LANDMARKED, WE STILL MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST KEEP THE, THE VISUAL AND, AND WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR RECOGNITION LIST TOO, BECAUSE THAT THEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT IN THE PAST, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, UH, UH, AND NATE, WE DID A, WE DID A REVIEW OF, THEY HAD CHANGED THAT EVEN SINCE, WELL, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1980, SO THAT'S PRETTY LONG
BUT YEAH, ALL I'M GOING OFF OF IS WHAT, WHAT'S IN HERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE MOST RECENT ONE, BUT THAT THOSE CHANGES YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT IS, ARE NOT REFLECTED IN HERE.
SO GOING OFF OF WHAT I KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW.
IT, BUT I THINK IT RECENTLY CHANGED HANDS AND, AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, DID WE NOT TALK ABOUT THE OTHER ONE TOO? AT ONE POINT WE DID, WE LOOKED AT IT, AND AT THE TIME WE DID IT.
THE OWNER DIDN'T WANT, DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.
SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN RELOOK AT.
WE CAN, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP STATUS OF THAT ONE, SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST ONE I DRIVE BY IT, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH AND IT'S, WE LOOKED AT IT FIRST.
AND ACT, ACTUALLY I THINK THE, THE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS THE ARTIST THAT OWNED IT WAS THE ONE THAT DID NOT WANT TO LANDMARK IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE BACKED AWAY FROM IT.
BUT THAT ONE, I THINK WE COULD, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S IN THE FAMILY NOW, SO WE COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT.
LET'S PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TOO.
LET'S HAVE THAT PART BE PART OF THE AGENDA.
SO, UM, AND, UH, UH, ARE WE ALL ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH? HAS ANYBODY LOOKED AT THEIR CALENDAR TO FIND OUT OR DO WE NEED TO SEND SOMETHING OUT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE THAT AVAILABLE? I'M NOT SURE I'LL BE AVAILABLE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I THINK WE NEED TO SEND SOMETHING.
UM, DONNA, CAN YOU SEND SOMETHING OUT JUST TO ASSURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A QUORUM FOR, UM, SEPTEMBER 11TH.
UM, WELL I THINK THAT THAT'S, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT, OH MY GOSH, 4 38
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR, FOR THANK YOU.
DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE FATE OF THE, UM, HISTORIC RESOURCE.