* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] EVERYBODY READY? WHERE'S CYNTHIA? [1. CALL TO ORDER, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE, ROLL CALL] I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THE CITY OF SEDONA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT'S TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023. IT'S 4:33 PM I'LL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR THE NATION UNDER GOD IN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE LAW. ROLL CALL PLEASE. CHAIR LEVIN HERE. VICE CHAIR HOSNI. HERE. COMMISSIONER WHEEL HERE. COMMISSIONER ZAKA. HERE. COMMISSIONER BRAHM IS EXCUSED. COMMISSIONER HURST HERE. AND COMMISSIONER GSKI IS EXCUSED. THANK YOU. GO ON TO AGENDA ITEM [2. ANNOUNCEMENTS & SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS & STAFF] NUMBER TWO. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY AND STEVE AND OTHER STAFF SUPPORTING, UH, THE COMMISSION'S ATTENDANCE AT THE STATEWIDE PLANNING CONFERENCE HELD JUST LAST WEEK BEFORE. UM, WE'VE FOUND THAT WE WERE MENTIONED IN A NUMBER OF VARIOUS WORKSHOPS SINCE DIFFERENT SESSIONS, TYPICALLY AROUND THE ISSUE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND, UM, I ATTENDED A COUPLE OF INTERESTING WORKSHOPS THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION HERE, BUT THEY ARE, UM, ARE BEING SEEN REGIONALLY. THE FIRST ONE IS A SOLAR FARM ON LAND THAT WAS SET ASIDE BY THE BABBITT RANCH. AND IT WAS A WAY TO DO TWO THINGS, PRESERVE THE LAND FROM POTENTIALLY BEING BROKEN UP INTO SMALLER PARCELS, AND OBVIOUSLY TO CONNECT TO A P S AND THE GRID AND DEVELOP ENERGY. THE OTHER WAS, UH, HYDROGEN PLANTS AND FACILITIES. THERE ARE A COUPLE WITH, THERE'S A HYDROGEN PLANT ALREADY IN CHANDLER, AS I RECALL, AND ONE GOING UP IN BUCKEYE. WHERE WAS THAT? BUCKEYE. BUCKEYE. UM, SO THAT WAS FASCINATING ON THE SUSTAINABILITY, UH, SLICE OF, OF THE CONFERENCE. IT WAS REALLY WELL ATTENDED. UM, WHAT, UH, A STAFF MEMBER FROM SEDONA WAS THERE, A FORMER STAFF MEMBER FROM SEDONA WAS ALSO THERE. SO I JUST WANNA EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO THE CITY AND TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR SUPPORTING THAT. I THINK IT'S NOTEWORTHY THAT EVERY SINGLE COMMISSIONER EITHER ATTENDED IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY. IT SHOWS A LOT OF DEDICATION. UH, I HAVE NO, AND DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA COMMENT ON THE CONFERENCE EXPERIENCE? WELL, I JUST, I WOULD THANK THE CITY FOR, UH, FOR SENDING THIS. I KNOW I PERSONALLY LEARNED A GREAT DEAL AND, UH, THERE WAS SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRAMS ON THE MULTI-USE HOUSING, UH, AND BUILDING DEVELOPMENT. SO, UH, I, I ENJOYED IT AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED HERE. OKAY. CURRENT EVENTS, UH, OR ANYTHING FROM STAFF? I DO NOT BELIEVE I HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THAT ITEM [3. APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING MINUTES] AND MOVE ON TO NUMBER THREE. APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING MINUTES OF THE REGULAR JULY 18TH, 2023 MEETING. IF THERE ARE NO, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY CHANGES, I WILL, UH, ASSUME THAT WE CAN THEN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THEM. CLOSE THAT ITEM. MOVE ON TO NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC FORUM. THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO A R S SECTION. 38 DASH 4 31 H. ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I HAVE NO CARDS. I'LL CLOSE THAT ITEM. [5. Update/discussion regarding the Community Plan Update] MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UPDATE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE. HELLO, CYNTHIA. GOOD EVENING. CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, COUNSELORS, OR COMMISSIONERS? . OKAY. SO THE UPDATE [00:05:01] ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS THAT WE ARE MADLY WORKING ON IT . UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR CHAPTERS IN VARIOUS STATES OF, OF WRITING AND RESEARCH. UM, LET'S SEE. ON THE HOUSING MEETINGS THAT WE HAD IN AUGUST, THERE WERE ACTUALLY A COUPLE IN JULY, WE ENDED UP, UM, WITH ABOUT FIVE MEETINGS. WE HAD OVER 90 PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE MEETINGS. UM, AND FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE APPRECIATED THE TIME FOR THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE OUR APRIL WORKSHOP, UM, THERE WAS SO MUCH PRESENTATION IF YOU WERE AT THAT ONE THAT THERE WASN'T A LOT OF CONVERSATION. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THESE MEETINGS. UM, SO THAT WENT VERY WELL. WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE WORKSHOPS. UM, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY READ THROUGH ALL OF IT YET, UM, BUT THOSE WERE RUN BY THREE VOLUNTEERS. UM, AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB OF PUTTING ALL OF IT TOGETHER. UM, AND THAT WAS LINDA MARTINEZ, MARY GARLAND, AND, UM, CAROL KRIMSKI, I'LL PROBABLY PRONOUNCE HER NAME WRONG, BUT . ANYWAY, SO THAT WENT REALLY WELL. UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE GOING ON? OKAY, SO LET'S SEE. NEXT WORK GROUP MEETING. UH, AGAIN, THOSE WERE MONTHLY MEETINGS. WE'RE BACK TO MONTHLY RIGHT NOW. AND SO SEPTEMBER 27TH IS THEIR NEXT MEETING. UM, LET'S SEE. SO THE SCHEDULE, WE'VE KIND OF LAID THAT OUT FROM NOW UNTIL APPROVAL. SO OUR GOAL IS MARCH 12TH TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A PUBLIC HEARING. MM-HMM. . SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT WRAPPED UP BY THE, UH, END OF MARCH, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED, I THINK MARCH 23RD OR SO. UM, SO WE'RE SHOOTING FOR MARCH, WHICH MEANS THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE MADLY WORKING AWAY RIGHT NOW. UM, KIND OF LOOKING AT THE NEXT TWO MONTHS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE CHAPTERS. UM, GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE ARE ALSO MEETING WITH CITY STAFF AND WE'LL BE MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN PREPARING THE DRAFT. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE A ROUGH DRAFT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL START WHAT WE'RE CALLING 60 DAY REVIEW, WHICH IS REALLY A REQUIREMENT OF THE STATE THAT WE SEND IT OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES. UM, IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN BE DOING, UM, PUBLIC MEETINGS AND WORK SESSIONS WITH THE COMMISSION. UM, WE MAY ALSO LATER ON DO SOME WORK SESSIONS WITH COUNCIL. SO THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP, UM, IN ORDER TO MEET THE TIMELINE. UM, AND THEN DO YOU KNOW WHAT DATES THAT'S COMING TO, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING? CYNTHIA? UM, WE HAVEN'T SET ALL OF OUR DATES OUT YET. UM, BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE AHEAD, ARE THE HOLIDAYS. MM-HMM. . SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU HAVE A COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 21ST, SO THAT COULD BE A WORK SESSION UNLESS YOU ARE ALL OUT OF TOWN. BUT WE CAN ALSO DO ZOOM MEETINGS AS WELL. UM, AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE END OF JANUARY AND WE MIGHT ACTUALLY SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING. UM, AND THAT TENTATIVELY WOULD BE JANUARY 30TH. SO ONCE WE GET ALL OF THIS, UM, SCHEDULED OUT, WE'LL SEND YOU A SCHEDULE SO YOU CAN HAVE IT ON YOUR CALENDAR. UH, AND SO THE REASON FOR, FOR A SPECIAL MEETING IS THAT IF YOU HAVE NORMALLY SAY YOUR MEETING'S JANUARY 2ND AND JANUARY 16TH, IF, IF WE HAVE TO LINE EVERYTHING UP, BASICALLY WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS MM-HMM. , CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULE, ET CETERA, THEN THOSE TWO DATES IN JANUARY AREN'T QUITE QUITE RIGHT. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE END OF JANUARY. SO ARE YOU HOLDING SEPARATE MEETINGS, PUBLIC MEETINGS? DID YOU SAY, IN ADDITION TO PUBLIC HEARINGS? YES. WITH P N Z AND COUNCIL? YES. SO WE EXPECT MAYBE, MAYBE ONE IN NOVEMBER. MM-HMM. , UH, [00:10:01] MAYBE ONE EARLY DECEMBER, UM, KIND OF WORKING AROUND THE HOLIDAYS. AND YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING COMING TO P AND Z IN DECEMBER? UH, POSSIBLE WORK SESSION, YEAH. OKAY. I GOT, UH, NOVEMBER 21ST. BUT DO YOU, WHAT WOULD BE THE DECEMBER WORK SESSION? UM, LET'S SEE, EITHER DECEMBER 5TH OR 19TH. AND THOSE ARE OUR REGULAR MEETING DATES. OKAY. SO WE WOULD SEE IT TWICE BEFORE YES. IT GOES TO COUNCIL. YES. AND THIS IS THE WHOLE DRAFT? YES. I MEAN THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. YEAH. WELL, WE'RE GONNA RELEASE THE WHOLE DOCUMENT TOGETHER. UM, WE DID DISCUSS RELEASING ONLY, YOU KNOW, SECTIONS OF IT, BUT WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD WORK BECAUSE YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER. UM, WHEN IT DOES COME OUT AS A FIRST DRAFT, UM, IN NOVEMBER, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME LIKE DRAFT GRAPHICS AND IMAGES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WOULD LEAVE TO THE END. MM-HMM. . UM, SO WE CAN FOCUS REALLY ON THE CONTENT MM-HMM. . UM, SO YEAH, IT WILL BE A, A FULL ROUGH DRAFT, BUT YOU, UH, P AND Z COMMISSION, YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY WORK SESSIONS AS YOU WOULD LIKE. SO, SO DO YOU KNOW HOW SOON BEFORE THE FIRST ONE ON THE 21ST WE WOULD HAVE THE DRAFT? UM, MOST LIKELY NOVEMBER 10TH. OKAY. AND HAVE YOU SCHEDULED YOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS YET? NO, WE DON'T HAVE 'EM ON THE CALENDAR YET. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO NAIL DOWN ALL OF OUR DATES, AND THEN WE WILL, UM, PUBLISH A CALENDAR FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. I WENT TO ONE OF THE, I WASN'T HERE IN APRIL, SO I DIDN'T, I WASN'T HERE IN APRIL. SO I WENT TO ONE OF THE RECENT HOUSING MEETINGS AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TABLETOP DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT THE ORGANIZATION AND THE OVERVIEW OF CURRENT CONDITIONS AND KIND OF EDUCATION ON WHAT KINDS OF TYPES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE OUT THERE. UM, AND THEN THE, THE SMALL GROUP DISCUSSION WENT REALLY WELL. GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. YEAH, I WENT TO A COUPLE OF 'EM AND I MM-HMM. , I THOUGHT THE, THE GROUP DISCUSSIONS WERE KIND OF THE BEST PART OF IT. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . I WENT TO ONE ALSO AND SAME THING, I WAS, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. MM-HMM. . YEAH. IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE. I, I ONLY WISH THERE HAD BEEN MORE PEOPLE YEAH. COULD HEAR IT. YES. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, ARE YOU PLANNING THOSE TO BE LIVE OR VIRTUAL OR BOTH, OR? THOSE ARE GOING TO BE LIVE IN PERSON, MORE LIKE A, A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE TYPE OF EVENT. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PAIR THAT WITH A LOT OF ONLINE REVIEW AND COMMENTING. HMM. AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE FOR THAT, THAT TOOL YOU USE FOR THE UPTOWN C F A WAS A GOOD ONE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. SO PEOPLE COULD GO IN AND PUT COMMENTS IN. RIGHT. YEAH. SO WE HAVE THAT, WE'LL DEFINITELY USE THAT. UM, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO DO THINGS LIKE, UM, HAVE SOME ONLINE KIND OF DISCUSSION TYPE GROUPS. OUR FACILITATORS, UM, ARE PRETTY SKILLED AT DOING THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO WE CAN COMBINE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT METHODS. SO, SO DO YOU COLLATE THE COMMENTS THAT YOU GET FROM THESE WORK, THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS IN SOME SYSTEMATIC WAY? YES. WHEN THEY'RE NOT ONLINE, WHERE YOU HAVE A TOOL TO DO THAT? UH, YES. SO WE HAVE, UH, WHAT I'M CALL A COMMENT DATABASE MM-HMM. . AND SO THE FIRST THING THAT WENT INTO THAT WERE THE SURVEY RESULTS, UM, WHEN WE DID THE, THE MAIL OUT SURVEY. MM-HMM. . AND SO THAT'S OUR LARGEST, UM, CHUNK OF COMMENTS, LIKE AS IN THOUSANDS OF ROWS. UM, AND THEN WE KEEP ADDING. SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE A PUBLIC EVENT OR ANYTHING ELSE, WE ADD COMMENTS INTO THAT. AND IT'S ALL CATEGORIZED BY TOPIC. MM-HMM. , UM, SOME OF THAT, IF NOT ALL, IS ALREADY ON THE WEBSITE FOR PLAN SEDONA. UM, SOMETHING LIKE THE WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE THERE [00:15:01] WERE SO MANY OF THEM AND THEY WERE VOLUNTEER LED, UM, WE COLLECTED ALL OF THE NOTES FROM MM-HMM. , ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE AT EACH TABLE. MM-HMM. , AND THEN OUR CONSULTANT COMPILED IT ALL AGAIN, ALSO CATEGORIZING IT OH, MM-HMM. SO THAT WE CAN PRINT OUT A REPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, OF ALL OF OUR HOUSING COMMENTS. AND THEN IT'S GOT SUBCATEGORIES BELOW THAT WHERE WE CAN KIND OF DRILL DOWN EVEN MORE. AND ARE YOU STILL THE PRINCIPAL WRITER OR IS MIKE GRABBER ASSISTING? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SAY THERE'S A PRINCIPAL WRITER 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF US WORKING ON IT. SO MIKE GRABBER MM-HMM. IS WORKING ON IT. UM, MYSELF, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON IT, AND IT'S A VERY ITERATIVE BACK AND FORTH MM-HMM. , UM, SITUATION. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE STAFF INVOLVED DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAM AND THE CHAPTER. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS UP HERE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CYNTHIA. CLOSE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE [6A. Public hearing/discussion/possible action regarding proposed revisions to the Sedona Land Development Code. The proposed updates include a change to the Grading and Drainage Section (LDC Section 5.3) to update an outdated reference and a change to the Accessory Use Section (LDC Section 3.4) to clarify what is considered an internal connection when reviewing single family houses and guest houses.] AND MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES, A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE SAN SEDONA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE PROPOSED UPDATES INCLUDE A CHANGE TO GRADING AND DRAINAGE SECTION, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 5.3 TO UPDATE AN OUTDATED REFERENCE AND A CHANGE TO THE ACCESSORY USE SECTION LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 3.4 TO CLARIFY WHAT IS CONSIDERED AN INTERNAL CONNECTION WHEN REVIEWING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND GUEST HOUSES. CARRIE, ARE YOU TAKING LIGHT ON THIS? I MEAN, SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION. UM, THESE ARE, UM, YOU ARE PROBABLY USED TO SEEING MORE ROBUST LIST OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES, BUT, UM, IN WORKING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THERE WAS THE, THEIR UPDATED, UM, REFERENCE NEEDED TO BE DONE A LITTLE SOONER THAN OUR TYPICAL SCHEDULE. SO BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND WE HAD THE, JUST THE ONE OTHER, UM, CHANGE TO THE, GET THE INTERNAL CONNECTION LANGUAGE THAT WE FELT WOULD BE OKAY TO INCLUDE. WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE TO MM-HMM. KEEP LISTS OF OTHER THINGS. NOTHING ELSE IS REALLY READY TO GO AT THIS TIME, BUT HANUKAH AND I ARE BOTH HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE OF OUR, WELL, LET'S TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME. ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OF STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION ON THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE L D C REVISION AS PROPOSED? JUST ONE LITTLE QUESTION. SO SINCE THERE WAS NOT A REFERENCE TO THE 2021 UPDATED ONE, YOU'RE HAVING TO STILL GO BY THE 1994? NO. SO WE, WE LAUNCHED OUR NEWEST FLOODPLAIN MAP AND WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN 2022. SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING REVIEW UNDER THE NEWEST MAP WITH THE BEST INFORMATION. UM, WE JUST NOTICED THAT THE CODE NEEDED TO BE UPDATED, SO, OKAY. OKAY. THE OTHER ITEM HAS TO DO WITH ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? EXCUSE ME. THE COMMISSION TWO STAFF. SO I WOULD TAKE THAT, THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE WAY IT'S BEEN, UH, REWRITTEN. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE TERM OR SIMILAR AREA . I THOUGHT THAT WAS VAGUE. UM, UM, ALSO LAUNDRY ROOM, JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE IN MY HOUSE, YOU ACCESS THE MASTER SUITE THROUGH A LAUNDRY ROOM, BUT IT'S ALL WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE. SO THAT WOULD, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW. SOME HOUSES ARE DESIGNED LIKE THAT. UM, AND ALSO JACK AND JILL BATHROOMS SOMETIMES CAN, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO MENTION. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I KNOW PERSONALLY THEN IF YOU GUYS WERE TO REVIEW MY HOUSE NOW, IT WOULD BE TOO, IT WOULD BE TOO SPACES. SO ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? SO YOUR, YOUR SITUATION, YOUR LAYOUT WOULD COME UP FOR THEM TO REVIEW IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WANTED TO TURN YOUR MASTER BEDROOM INTO A ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT? WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE, I THINK BASED ON MY LAYOUT, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S ALL ONE FLOOR [00:20:01] PLAN, BUT YOU GO INTO MY HOUSE AND YOU HAVE THE LIVING ROOM, THE DINING ROOM, AND THEN YOU GO LEFT THROUGH A LAUNDRY ROOM INTO THE MASTER SUITE. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET INTO THE MASTER SUITE. AND THEN THE OTHER BEDROOMS ARE, YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE. SO BY THAT VERBIAGE, THAT MEANS THAT MY HOUSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED HAVING AN A D U? CORRECT. UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN, BUT POTENTIALLY, YEAH, SO THAT WAS JUST MY CONCERN THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DESIGN THINGS THAT WAY SO THAT THEY HAVE PRIVACY AND SEPARATION. UM, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD. AND CARRIE, CERTAINLY NOT, NOT A DEAL BREAKER. I MEAN, THERE'D BE GRANDFATHERING FOR ANY CURRENT ONES. RIGHT. SO IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO YOUR HOUSE NECESSARILY. RIGHT. BUT ANY, ANY NEW, IF ANYONE A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOME CAME IN FOR PLAN, FOR DESIGN REVIEW, UH, THAT WOULD BE FLAGGED. YEAH. BUT THAT IS SORT OF A DESIGN THAT I SEE IN MY EXPERIENCE IS NOT BEING UNCOMMON BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE SEPARATION. THEY ALSO LIKE THE PROXIMITY OF LIKE WALKING OUT OF YOUR MASTER AND DUMPING YOUR LAUNDRY AND THEN MOVING ON. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON LAYOUT. THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY COMMENT. MM-HMM. , I, ANYONE ELSE? ? IT'S NOT A DEAL BREAKER, IT WAS JUST A COMMENT, YOU KNOW, JUST MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP. OPEN UP OUR PUBLIC HEARING NOW. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS. DID YOU CARE TO SPEAK? OKAY. SO OPEN AND CLOSE IT AND BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION, UM, OR EMOTION, BARRING THAT CONCERN. I THINK, UH, I, I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH, UH, THIS LANGUAGE. IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME. MM-HMM. . UM, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THOUGH THAT A, A LAUNDRY ROOM IS THE SAME AS A LAUNDRY SPACE. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE LAUNDRY THINGS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S A LAUNDRY ROOM NECESSARILY. UM, BECAUSE I, I'VE HAD A HOME THAT HAD THIS VERY SIMILAR, UH, THING, SO I, YEAH, IF THERE WAS LIKE A LAUNDRY CLOSET OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WALKING BY VERSUS WALKING THROUGH A SEPARATE LAUNDRY ROOM. I, I, I GUESS I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT A FLOOR PLAN AND, RIGHT. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, ANYWAY, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO ACCEPT THE LANGUAGES AS WRITTEN. MM-HMM. CONSENSUS LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN. OKAY. I'LL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. UH, LET ME JUST SWITCH TO THAT PAGE FOUR OF OUR STAFF REPORT. LYNN, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF CASE NUMBER PZ 23 DASH 0 0 6 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IN SECTION 8.5 C FOUR OF THE L D C AND SIX. OOPS. 8.6 AND A SECOND, PLEASE. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO THANK YOU COMMISSION. MOVE ON [7. FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS] TO FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SO, SO FOR THE MEETINGS IN OCTOBER, UM, THE SECOND MEETING OF OCTOBER, OCTOBER 17TH, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A WORK SESSION, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ON ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. UM, WE HAVE SOME LARGER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW, AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANTS ABOUT GIVING, UM, NOT NOT BRINGING THE, YOU KNOW, AND ASK, BRINGING IT AND ASKING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION THE SAME NIGHT, BUT KIND OF GIVING THE INTRODUCTION. WE USED TO DO THAT A LITTLE MORE OFTEN, MORE REGULARLY, BUT WITH SOME OF THE LARGER PROJECTS COMING BACK THROUGH, WE TRYING TO, TO DO THAT AGAIN. AND SO WE MIGHT HAVE A WORK SESSION, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE OF THE PROJECTS FOR THE OCTOBER 17TH MEETING. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE OCTOBER 3RD MEETING. DO, SHOULD WE CONSIDER THAT AT THIS POINT? SORRY. YES. OKAY. IT WILL BE CANCELED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? CLOSE THAT AGENDA ITEM AND WE WILL ADJOURN AT, UH, 4 55. THANK YOU. A RECORD. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.