Oct 24, 2023 City Council

PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

CLERK? COULD YOU, OH, THERE YOU ARE.

UH, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE? UH, DEPUTY

[2. ROLL CALL]

OVER HERE.

YOU MOVED ON ME.

GEEZ.

LIKE PUT A BELL AROUND YOUR NECK.

MAYOR JALO.

PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU.

HERE.

COUNCILOR DUNN.

PRESENT.

COUNCILOR FOLTZ? HERE.

COUNCILOR FURMAN? HERE.

COUNCILOR KINSELLA IS EXCUSED.

ABSENT.

COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON? HERE.

[3. CONSENT ITEMS ]

OKAY, ITEM THREE.

UH, I JUST LOST IT.

THERE WE GO.

UH, CONSENT ITEMS. ITEM THREE A THROUGH.

I'M, I'M LOSING THE I HERE A THROUGH I.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH SECOND.

ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE UNANIMOUS.

JOANNE.

WE'LL DO IT THIS WAY.

THIS IS THE EXCITING POINT.

UH, APPOINTMENTS.

[4. APPOINTMENTS]

EVERYBODY'S HERE FOR THE APPOINTMENTS.

SO LET ME BRING UP THE LIST.

WHY IS IT NOT DOING THAT? OKAY.

ITEM FOUR, A AB 3 0 0 3.

DISCUSSION.

POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT OF THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THAT WILL BE FROM ANYBODY.

YOU JUST WANT ME TO JUST DISCUSS IT? OKAY.

JUST WANNA BE SURE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GONNA HAVE, 'CAUSE SINCE YOU HAVE THE STAFF HERE.

WHY AM I LIST? THIS IS NOT GOOD HERE.

DO YOU JUST WANT ME TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF IT? WOULD YOU READ THE NAMES? WELL, I WANT WHAT I WANNA READ BEFORE WE DO THE NAMES.

I, RIGHT, RIGHT.

BEFORE DO, I MEAN, A LITTLE, EX EXPLANATION OF WHAT DID GONNA DO, BUT I, FOR WHATEVER REASON, MY SCREEN IS NOT OKAY.

MOVING HERE.

SO, UH, THE MOTIONS INCLUDE ALL THE NAMES.

UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I WANT WHAT I THINK IS MORE AS IMPORTANT AS, AS THE NAMES IS SOME OF THE, THE BACKGROUND.

SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND A RESIDENT.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, BUT ABOUT EVERYBODY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, DAVID PRICE WILL BE THE CHAIR, UH, OF THE, UH, BOARD.

HE'S A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.

HE'S A PRESIDENT, UH, WHICH IS A RESIDENT, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

A RESIDENT.

A RESIDENT IN THANK YOU IN THE CITY.

JOHN FISS GIBBONS.

UH, HE IS A RESIDENT AND HE'S A GENERAL MANAGER OF PINK JEEP TOURS.

UH, ALICIA HANSSEN OF ALI HANSSEN IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT SHE'S A, A MULTIPLE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND A RESIDENT, UH, UH, ALTHEA JOHNSON, UH, IS A RESIDENT AND AN INNKEEPER.

BOB PKE.

WHERE IS BOBBY? I, THERE HE IS.

I I THOUGHT I SAW HIM WORKING.

HE'S A RESIDENT.

CRAIG SWANSON.

UH, HE IS PART OF KSB AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, AND HE IS OF COURSE A RESIDENT.

UH, DANIELLE, SO IS A HOTEL MANAGER.

UH, FRANKIE REAMER IS A COLLEGE PROFESSOR AND A RESIDENT.

UH, RANDY MCCRAE.

HE'S A BUSINESS OWNER IN TOWN.

UH, RENEE TAYLOR, SHOP OWNER.

EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW HER SHOP VERY, VERY WELL.

AND, UH, A RESIDENT.

AND RICHARD KEPPEL, HE'S, UH, WITH THE, UH, SPIRITUAL HEALING, UH, GROUP IN TOWN.

A VERY

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SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS ON THIS LIST IS REALLY, REALLY GREAT.

SO, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE MOTION FOR THE FIRST GROUP? I WILL BE GLAD TO.

I MOVE TO APPOINT ALTHEA JOHNSON.

CRAIG SWANSON.

DAVID PRICE AS CHAIR JOHN FITZGIBBONS AS VICE CHAIR AND RANDY MCGAIN TO SEATS ON THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD.

THE TERMS WILL BEGIN ON JANUARY 1ST, 2024, AND END ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 OR UNTIL A SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED, WHICHEVER IS LATER.

ANY OPPOSED? UNANIMOUS, JOE.

OKAY, THEN JESSICA, YOU WANNA DO THE SECOND? SURE.

I, WHAT I JUST READ WAS THE, THOSE MEMBERS WITH A TWO YEAR TERM, UM, AND I ALSO MOVE TO APPOINT ALICIA HANSON, BOB PIF, PKE, DANIELLE, SO FRANCIS REAMER, RENEE TAYLOR, AND RICHARD KEPPEL TO SEATS ON THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD.

THE TERMS WILL BEGIN ON JANUARY 1ST, 2024, AND END ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2027 OR UNTIL A SUCCESSOR IS POINTED, WHICHEVER IS LATER.

ANY OPPOSED? NO.

EXCELLENT.

UH, COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE? I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS WAS A, A GREAT PROCESS.

WE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST.

WE HAD 38 APPLICANTS FOR THESE SEATS.

UM, WE SELECTED 20 OF THE OR 37 APPLICANTS TO INTERVIEW.

THEY FILL, EACH APPLICANT FILLED OUT AN EXTENSIVE INTERVIEW.

UM, WE, WE SELECTED 20 TO INTERVIEW.

WE INTERVIEWED ALL 20 OF THEM OVER A THREE DAY PERIOD, UH, 45 MINUTES EACH.

UH, IT WAS QUITE THOROUGH.

AND, UM, I GOTTA SAY THAT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

THE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE DIDN'T SELECT WERE WONDERFUL CANDIDATES AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT SPEAKS REALLY WELL OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WANNA STEP UP AND, AND WORK ON THIS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE.

STARTING FROM THE STARTING FROM NOTHING.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HELP CREATE REALLY SOMETHING.

AND SO I THINK, I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S EXCITING AND I WELCOME YOU.

I WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THIS TEAM AND, AND KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT TIME AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SAY ANYTHING THAT COULD BRIAN? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, JUST WANT TO ECHO COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON, THANK THE 37 RESIDENTS THAT DID APPLY IN THE 20 THAT INTERVIEWED AND THE 11 OF YOU THAT HAVE SAID YES.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR INPUT AND SEEING WHERE WE CAN TAKE TOURISM IN SEDONA.

SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY YOU ALSO TO ECHO EVERYTHING, JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT MEANS A LOT TO SEE NEW FACES, EXCITING FACES, PEOPLE WHO REALLY, I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME, UH, OF THE GROUP AND EVERYBODY'S EXCITED.

WE'LL SEE HOW LONG THAT LASTS.

BUT I HOPE IT CONTINUES FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE I THINK THE TOPIC IS EXCITING.

IT'S ALL PART OF HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.

WERE NINE CASES IN THE WORLD IN TWO COUNTRIES, AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN.

UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, SUMMARY OF

[5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER]

CURRENT EVENTS.

ITEM FIVE.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE COUNCIL VICE MAYOR? UH, FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT TODAY IS, I'M WEARING A PIN TOO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN SEE IT.

TODAY IS THE END POLIO WORLD POLIO DAY.

AND, UH, IN 1985, ROTARY INTERNATIONAL STARTED A PROGRAM AND AN EFFORT TO ERADICATE POLIO FROM THE WORLD.

AND THEY WERE TOLD THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO, TO ACHIEVE IN THE FIRST YEAR.

THEY RAISED ABOUT $20 MILLION FOR THE EFFORT, WHICH WAS TO IMMUNIZE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN, UH, ACROSS THE WORLD.

SO IT WENT FROM 500,000 NEW CASES A YEAR TO 350,000 CASES.

AND THAT WAS AN AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT IN 1985.

NOW, TODAY IN 2023, THERE

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THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE IN DANGER OF HAVING POLIO COME BACK BECAUSE THE VACCINATION IMMUNIZATION RATES ARE NOT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE.

UH, BUT IT IS QUITE AN ACHIEVEMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THIS EFFORT.

TELL YOU IT'S STILL ONGOING AND THE GOAL IS TO COMPLETELY ERADICATE POLIO OFF THE FACE OF THE WORLD.

AND, UH, TODAY IS A CELEBRATION OF ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT HAVE, HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED TO DATE.

I HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE, WHICH IS MY REGULAR PARKS AND REC REPORT.

SO ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, PARKS AND REC HOSTED FALL FESTIVAL DAY WITH A FREE TO BE ME DRUMMING CIRCLE, FOLLOWED BY 155 SWIMMERS AT THE PUMPKIN SPLASH, WHICH IS VERY COOL.

AND THEN FOLLOWED BY OCTOBER FEST FROM 3:00 PM TO 8:00 PM AT POSSE GROUNDS.

SO THAT WAS AN EXCITING DAY.

LOTS OF ACTIVITIES.

AND NEXT WEEK, I FORGOT MY WEEKS RIGHT WILL BE THE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL, AND THAT IS A FABULOUS EVENT AS WELL.

AND THAT WILL BE AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK.

AND NOW REGISTRATION IS OPEN FOR, FOR FIRST TO EIGHTH GRADERS FOR THE GRASSHOPPER YOUTH BASKETBALL LEAGUE.

AND NEW THIS YEAR IS EXPANDING IT TO THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADES.

UPTOWN TRICK OR TREATING, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T FORGET, WILL TAKE PLACE ON HOLLYWOOD HALLOWEEN IN UPTOWN SEDONA FROM FIVE TO 8:00 PM AND JUST REMEMBER, IT'S GONNA BE A SCARY GOOD TIME, .

AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, TREATS DANCE PERFORMANCES AND EVERYONE'S INVITED TO ATTEND WITH THEIR COSTUME.

I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE POLICE CHIEF'S GONNA WEAR.

OH, .

OH, IT'S A SECRET.

I WILL JUST HAVE TO SEE.

SHOULD PROBABLY DRESS UP AS A POLICE CHIEF.

POLICE CHIEF BEING, SHE WORKS 24 HOURS A DAY ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? OH, MELISSA.

SO I WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THE, UM, VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS, UM, OUR SENIOR CITIZENS ACROSS THE VALLEY, UH, JUST SORT OF STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND SURVIVE ON THE DAILY BASIS, THAT THEY HAVE THEIR HUGE FUNDRAISER COMING UP, UM, THEIR WINTER MASQUERADE, WHICH IS A BIG GALA, AND IT IS AN EVENT THAT'S GONNA FEATURE WINE APPETIZER, RECEPTION, AND ELEGANT TO DINNER, MUSIC, DANCING, AND LIVE AND SILENT AUCTIONS.

IT'S ON NOVEMBER 19TH, UM, THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY FROM FIVE TO NINE.

IT IS GOING TO BE OUT AT ENCHANTMENT IN THE ANASAZI, UM, BALLROOM.

SO YOU CAN GET OUT YOUR FANCY DRESS, AS WE WOULD SAY IN ENGLAND, UM, AND YOUR MASKS AND COME AND DANCE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SKYLIGHT CITY STRING QUARTET FROM FLAGSTAFF.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY A SELECTION.

IT'S AN ALL WOMEN'S, UM, QUARTET, AND THEY'RE GONNA PLAY A SELECTION OF MUSIC FROM BRIDGETON.

SO IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH BRIDGETON, AND IF YOU'RE UNDER A CERTAIN AGE, I'M SURE YOU ARE, THEN UM, YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE A LOT OF THE TUNES THAT WILL BE THERE.

UM, ALL OF THE MONEY FROM THE AUCTION AND FROM THE TICKETS WILL GO TOWARDS, UH, BENEFITING OLDER ADULTS IN NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AROUND THE VALLEY.

TICKETS ARE $150 PER PERSON, OR YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND SPONSOR A TABLE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

THE TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE NOW.

YOU CAN EITHER CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY, UM, AT 9 2 8 2 0 4 1 2 3 8, OR YOU CAN GO TO VV CAREGIVERS VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS.ORG/ANNUAL-GALA.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION THERE.

I'M GONNA BE THERE.

I'M GONNA BE ALL DRESSED UP, SO I HOPE I SEE A LOT OF YOU THERE TOO.

THANK YOU, MELISSA.

BRIAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND WE ARE NOW DOING COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS DURING THIS PIECE OF THE AGENDA AS WELL, CORRECT? I DON'T SEE IT AT THE END OF, ISN'T AT THE END, THAT'S EIGHT A.

NO, THIS IS SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS.

ADAY, YOU SEE IT? OH, YEAH.

SO WE DO HAVE IT STILL.

WE JUST MOVED IT UP SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY STICK AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO HEAR THE COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

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OH, THERE YOU GO.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.

NO PROBLEM.

OKAY, PETE, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE, UH, TO FOCUS THEIR ENERGY AND, UH, KNOW THAT TONIGHT AT 6:00 PM THE RED ROCK BOYS, THE RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL BOYS SOCCER TEAM HAS THEIR FIRST PLAYOFF GAME.

THEY ENTER THE PLAYOFFS AT WITHIN 11 AND TWO RECORD.

AND, UH, THEY PLAY DESERT CHRISTIAN TONIGHT STARTING AT 6:00 PM SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET OUT THERE FOR THE SECOND HALF.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES JOIN ME FOR A GREAT SOCCER GAME, UH, AND LET'S, UH, GIVE, UH, OUR BEST WISHES FOR THEIR PLAYOFF RUN.

ITEM, UH, SIX PUBLIC FORUM.

THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? NO, MA'AM.

WOW.

NOW, UH, BRIAN, WE HAVE ITEM EIGHT A IS COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

THEN WE WILL GO DOWN TO, UH, ITEM SEVEN, PROCLAMATIONS OF RECOGNITIONS OF AWARDS, WHICH THERE ARE NONE.

THEN

[8.a. Report regarding Council assignments.]

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT TWO MEETINGS AGO.

APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNEW SOMETHING CHANGED.

I KNOW YOU SNUCK IT IN THERE.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM, UH, IS, IS, UH, COUNCIL REMEMBERS FROM A MEETING OR TWO BACK.

WE HAD CHRIS FETZER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NA COGN, PRESENTING ABOUT THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT NACOG IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

I'M OUR APPOINTED MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO NACOG, AND BEING ON THE BOARD REALLY DOESN'T AMOUNT TO A WHOLE LOT.

IT'S GETTING INVOLVED AT THE PROGRAM LEVEL WITHIN NACO.

AND I WANTED TO INFORM COUNSEL THAT I'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO THE, UH, ADVISORY COUNCIL ON AGING, UH, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

SO THAT WILL BE ONE AREA IN PARTICULAR THAT I WILL HAVE A GREATER OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE.

THE, UH, OTHER TOPIC I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS, UH, ANOTHER COUNCIL ASSIGNMENT, THAT BEING THE, UH, THE HOUSING, UH, COMMITTEE ALONG WITH COUNSELOR, UH, WILLIAMSON AND THE MAYOR.

AND JUST GONNA SHARE A, A TOP THREE OUT OF THE LAST MEETING, UH, THAT WE HAD.

UH, THE FIRST IS THAT AS FAR AS THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS PROGRAM IS CONCERNED, THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT PROPERTIES SO FAR THAT HAVE FILED DEEDED RESTRICTIONS SO THAT THEY MAY NOT BE TURNED INTO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THE, UH, SECOND TOPIC IS, UM, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON A WHITE PAPER.

UH, WHAT IS EXACTLY IN THAT, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, BUT A SUBGROUP OF THE COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON A WHITE PAPER.

THEY'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE IT COMPLETED WITHIN THE MONTH AND, UH, EITHER PROVIDE IT TO COUNCIL OR PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL, UH, TBD.

AND THE, THE FINAL ITEM I'LL SHARE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A REALTOR MEMBER OF THE GROUP WHO WANTED TO SHARE OF A FUTURE, NOT FUTURE, A NEWER, UH, CONCEPT THAT COULD FIND ITS WAY INTO ARIZONA OR SEDONA THAT, UH, MIGHT BE YET ANOTHER MEANS OF GETTING AROUND SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, REFORM, SHOULD THAT, UH, FIND ITS WAY, UH, THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE IN AN UPCOMING SESSION.

AND THAT IS, UH, A CONCEPT WHERE, UH, INVESTORS GROUP TOGETHER, THEY BUY MULTIPLE HOUSES, UM, AND THEY ESSENTIALLY RUN IT LIKE A FRACTIONAL REAL ESTATE, UH, ARRANGEMENT.

SO IT'S STILL VACATION RENTAL IN THAT SENSE.

IT'S NOT, UH, TIMESHARE, ALTHOUGH IT HAS SOME SIMILARITIES TO IT.

UM, BUT IT IS, UH, YET ANOTHER FORM OF POTENTIALLY TAKING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OUT OF INVENTORY.

AND SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HOPE WE CAN LOOK INTO, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, UH, PUT ORDINANCES IN PLACE NOW THAT MIGHT PREVENT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

UH, SO YOU CAN BUY TICKETS AT, UH, WWW.SEDONAMUSEUM.ORG.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

THAT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE.

THIS SIDE.

WE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY.

I HAVE SOMETHING.

VICE MAYOR, THE SEDONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE HERITAGE MUSEUM IS EXCITED TO PRESENT AN ALL NEW PROGRAM.

OUR TOWN, SEDONA, ONLY WE'RE DEAD, THE MUSICAL .

AND THIS UNIQUE THEATRICAL PERFORMANCE WILL TAKE PLACE FOR TWO NIGHTS ONLY, OCTOBER 27TH AND 28TH AT 4:45 PM IN COOKS CEDAR GLADE CEMETERY.

HENCE, WE'RE DEAD NOW.

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AB 3 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY, ITEM EIGHT, EXCUSE ME, EIGHT B

[8.b. AB 3005 Public hearing/discussion/possible action regarding a Resolution and Ordinance adopting revisions to the Sedona Land Development Code Section 5.3 (Grading and Drainage) and Section 3.4 (Accessory Use Section). Case Number: PZ23-00006 (LDC) Applicant: City of Sedona.]

DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RESOLUTION, AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING REVISIONS TO THE SEDONA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, 5.3 GRADING AND DRAINAGE AND SECTION 3.4, UH, ACCESSORY USE SECTION CASE NUMBER PZ 23 DASH 0 0 0 6 LDC.

APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF SEDONA, AND THAT WOULD BE HANUKAH.

AND CARRIE HI, HANUKKAH'S, GOING TO, UH, PRESENT TODAY, WELL, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION OR A FORMAL PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING, BUT, UM, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE, IF YOU REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE BROUGHT BACK A LARGE GROUP OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES.

UM, WE TRY TO GROUP THEM TOGETHER, SO WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THIS MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.

THIS ONE IS ONLY TWO SMALL ONES.

UM, ONE OF THEM, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAD ASKED US TO GET THROUGH A LITTLE FASTER THAN OUR NORMAL SCHEDULE.

SO THIS IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING US KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE GENERAL, UM, SCHEDULE THAT WE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE.

BUT, UM, THE DETAILS WERE IN YOUR PACKET AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

BUT YEAH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNSEL? OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY, THEN DO WE HAVE A MOTION? IT, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THE ITEM? NO, MAYOR.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN.

THANK YOU, CARRIE.

AND NOW DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, JESSICA, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 31 31 ESTABLISHING AS A PUBLIC RECORD EXHIBIT A OCTOBER 24TH, 2023 PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE.

I'LL READ THE SECOND.

YES, I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH NINE NINE CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IN SECTION 8.6 POINT C FOUR OF THE LDC AMENDING THE LDC ADOPTING BY REFERENCE THAT DOCUMENT KNOWN AS EXHIBIT A, OCTOBER 24TH, 2023, PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES OR CODE PROVISIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH.

OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR.

[8.c. AB 3008 Presentation/discussion/possible action on award of a construction contract for the PR-03C Improvements, Build-Out Ranger Station Park – Landscape Contract in an amount not-to-exceed $186,444.05 subject to approval of the written contract by the City Attorney’s Office.]

UH, ITEM C.

THANKS FOR THAT QUICK PRESENTATION, CARRIE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AB 3 0 0 8 PRESENTATION DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE PR DASH ZERO THREE C IMPROVEMENTS.

BUILD OUT RANGER STATION, PARK LANDSCAPE CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, 186,404 4.05 SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

HELLO GUYS.

HELLO.

HI.

OKAY, SANDY, SO SORRY, WE'VE GOT A THEME GOING.

SO NO PRESENTATION TODAY.

UM, SORRY EVERYBODY WE'RE, UM, GOING FULL STEAM AHEAD ON RANGER STATION PARK.

SO, UM, YOU SAW US, WE JUST HAD THE CONTRACTOR MOVE ON SITE THIS MORNING ACTUALLY FOR THE CONCRETE AND THE GIAN, WHICH IS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW US.

SO WE'RE NOW HERE, UM, FOR THE LANDSCAPE CONTRACT.

WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD CONTRACTOR MORNING DEW OUT OF FLAGSTAFF.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY ANTICIPATE REALLY KNOCKING THIS OUT QUICKLY.

ABOUT SIX WEEKS, SO WOW.

FROM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, WHETHER PERMITS, WHETHER PERMITTED.

WELL, NOT VERY PREDICTIVE.

SO WE'RE EXCITED.

MAKE IT GREEN.

UM, NOTHING FURTHER UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? MAYOR? YES, BRIAN? I'M SORRY.

THAT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

UH, SO WHEN THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETE FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, WHAT'S NEXT? SO WE'LL BE, UM, BEFORE YOU, AGAIN FOR THE RESTROOM BUILDING, UM, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT, WE'VE AWARDED THE, UH, DESIGN CONTRACT TO AN ARCHITECT.

SO WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU FOR

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AND THEN ALSO FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT'S BIG ITEMS THAT WILL BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL.

AND SO WE'RE STILL SHOOTING FOR COMPLETING THE PROJECT BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND THAT EFFECTIVELY WILL COMPLETE THE OUTDOOR PORTION OF THE PARK? THAT'S CORRECT.

CORRECT.

SO WE HAVE, UM, GONE ONE ROUND WITH AN ARCHITECT ON THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE IN THE BARN.

AND, UM, WE WORKED WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON THAT AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE COMMISSION ALSO.

AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME UPDATE SKETCHES TO PRESENT TO THEM.

UM, SO THAT ALSO WAS MOVING AHEAD.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS ALL DONE BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR? SO I WAS PAST THE PROPERTY THE OTHER DAY AND IT LOOKS READY FOR PLANTING.

THAT'S, WE'RE GETTING THERE.

AND SO I, I WANTED TO HAVE YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE TYPE OF VEGETATION JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BENEFIT.

WHERE'S CARRIE ? SO, UM, THE GRASS THAT WE'RE, UM, ANXIOUSLY NEED TO PUT IN BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS GONNA BE THE SAME BLUEGRASS, PRESCOTT BLUEGRASS THAT'S AT OUR OTHER PARKS.

SO WE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY LIKES THAT.

UM, WHAT WE'RE ALSO ABOUT 60 TREES.

YEP.

63 WE'RE GONNA BE PLANTING, AND THAT'S A COMBINATION.

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO APPLE TREES, UH, A COUPLE OAK PINION PINES, UM, ASH, UM, LEAN FORWARD.

HMM.

LEAN FORWARD.

OH, PINON PINES.

UM, THE ARIZONA, NOT ARIZONA ARIZ.

UM, THE ASH.

YES.

THE ASH TREE.

THEN THE OAKS, THE EMERY OAKS.

YEP.

AND A COUPLE APPLE AND A COUPLE OF APPLE TREES ALONG WITH THE LADY BANKS ROWS, WHICH WILL BE BEHIND THE HOUSE, WHICH WAS IN SOME OF THE HISTORIC PHOTOS THAT WE HAVE VIEWED.

UM, ASSORTED SHRUBS, UM, HEDGES, AND THEN NATURAL GRASSES AROUND THE, UH, RETENTION BASINS AND THE, THE PERIMETER OF THE PARK.

THAT WOULD BE ABOUT IT.

, A LOT OF IT IS GONNA BE LOW WATER USE NATIVE, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T WANNA DO CACTUS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A PARK THAT WE WANT, UM, TO HAVE KIDS PLAY IN AND PEOPLE TO PLAY IN.

SO, UM, C WE'RE EXCITED, RECOMMENDED TALKING ABOUT PLAYING IN KIDS, UH, KIDS OF ALL AGES.

HOW'S THAT? NO, NO, NO.

WELL, ME TOO , THE SPECIAL SLIDE THAT YOU HAD BEEN DISCUSSING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

OH, THE HA HALINA.

AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

STILL GETTING SOME MORE REVISIONS.

OKAY, GOOD.

WE'LL BRING THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS WITH A PRESENTATION? SO THAT WAY WE HAVE OKAY.

THE SIDE.

PETE, MELISSA, UH, JESSICA? NO.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT ALL SINCE WE HAD NO QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ? JESSICA, IT'S WAITING FOR YOU.

OH, IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR ME, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OOPS.

I'M TRYING TO FIND IT MYSELF.

NO.

I MOVED TO APPROVE AWARD OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH MORNING DREW LANDSCAPING, INC.

FOR THE PR DASH ZERO THREE C BUILD OUT OF RANGER STATION PARK PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $186,444 AND 5 CENTS, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF A WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM THE VICE MAYOR.

OKAY, BOY, THIS IS LIKE, I WOULD LIKE THEM ALL TO GO.

I KNOW THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA BE REALLY EXCITED TO FINALLY SEE THIS PARK.

I'LL SAY, SO I'M EXCITED.

I'M WAITING FOR THE HALINA SLIDE.

THAT'S .

YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE DOWN THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ITEM D

[8.d. AB 3011 Discussion/possible action regarding award of RFP No. 2023/24-002, Branding and Marketing Services, to Day Vengley & Associates dba DVA Advertising & Public Relations for an amount not-to-exceed $281,000.00 through October 24, 2024, with the option to extend for three (3) additional one (1) year terms.]

UH, AB 3 0 1 1.

DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING AWARD FOR RFP NUMBER 2 0 2 3 SLASH 24 DASH UH, 0 0 2 BRANDING AND MARKETING SERVICES TODAY, LEY, LEY AND ASSOCIATES, DBA, UH, DVA ADVERTISING AND PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $281,000, UH, THROUGH OCTOBER 24TH, 2024, WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND FOR THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERMS. I GUESS OUR TEAR PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT THIS.

IT'S PRETTY EXCITING, LAUREN.

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NO, I HAVEN'T EVEN TURNED IN YOUR DIRECTION.

IT'S BEEN MISSING.

THERE'S ONE NOW IT'S FINE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILORS.

I'M GONNA BREAK THE TREND OF NOT HAVING A PRESENTATION AND GIVE YOU ONE.

UH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE SOME OF OUR TAB MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

UM, TONIGHT I'M HERE TO PRESENT ABOUT THE POSSIBLE AWARD FOR THE BRANDING AND MARKETING RFP THAT WE PUT OUT BACK IN AUGUST WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE NEW TOURISM PROGRAM IN JULY.

WE KNEW THAT IN ORDER TO HELP DEFINE WHAT SEDONAS BRAND IS GOING FORWARD, AND IN ORDER TO BE STRATEGIC, THOUGHTFUL, AND TARGETED ABOUT MARKETING SEDONA AS A DESTINATION, THAT WE FIRST NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR BRAND IS AND WHAT OUR MARKETING PLAN WILL BE.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR THIS RFP.

UM, AT A HIGH LEVEL, WE HAD 16 FIRMS SUBMIT PROPOSALS WITH NINE OF THEM MEETING THE FULL REQUIREMENTS.

AN EVALUATION TEAM THEN DECIDED THE TOP THREE FIRMS TO BRING IN AN INTERVIEW OF THOSE TOP THREE FIRMS. DVA ADVERTISING WAS THE UNANIMOUS CHOICE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

THEIR CREATIVE WAS COMPELLING AND SHOWED US HOW SIMILAR DESTINATIONS ARE DEALING WITH BALANCING TOURISM AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

THEY UNDERSTOOD OUR JOURNEY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH TO GET TO THIS POINT, AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO GOING FORWARD WITH RESPONSIBLE VISITATION.

AND THE LENS THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO ALL OF OUR MESSAGING.

THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO TRY TO TRACK AD EFFICACY, AND THEY ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH US ON THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND HOW THAT'S A CRITICAL PART OF OUR AD PLACEMENT STRATEGY AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO ROBUST CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT IN THE RESEARCH PHASE.

SO THEIR SCOPE OF WORK WILL INCLUDE THE REQUIRED SERVICES OF EXTENSIVE RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND TOURISM SENTIMENT, BRANDING AND DESTINATION MARKETING, STRATEGIC PLANS, BRAND OPTIONS WITH A STYLE MANUAL AND GUIDELINES FOR THE FINAL PICK PRESENTATIONS TO THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD AND TO CITY COUNCIL.

A DESTINATION MARKETING CAMPAIGN OR TWO SMALLER CAMPAIGNS THAT'S DEPENDING ON TIMING.

THIS WILL INCLUDE ASSETS LIKE A CAMPAIGN, SLOGAN, WEBSITE, GRAPHICS, IMAGES, WEBSITE COPY, COPY AND DIGITAL ADS.

AND THEN GENERAL MARKETING SERVICES.

SO AS STATED IN THE RFP, THE OPTIONAL SERVICES ARE A DESTINATION MARKETING CAMPAIGN THAT INCLUDES BROADCAST MEDIA.

SO THESE ARE THINGS LIKE SPOT SPOTIFY AND AUDIO ADS, VIDEO CREATION AND PRODUCTION, ET CETERA.

AND THEN AD PLACEMENT SERVICES.

SO THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

UM, BUT IT'S TO HELP US CHOOSE NOT ONLY THE BEST STRATEGY ON WHEN AND WHERE TO ADVERTISE, BUT TO HELP TRACK THAT AD EC EFF EFFICACY.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, FIRST UP, UM, I'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM OUT OF THE GATE FOR OUR WINTER MARKETING CAMPAIGN ON TRACKING IF PEOPLE SAW, UM, WHEN THEY SAW OUR AD, IF THEY CAME IN MARKET, AND FOR HOW LONG TIMELINE.

SO THEY'VE OUTLINED THIS TIMELINE THAT YOU SEE HERE.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, THIS IS INITIAL, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE KICKOFF MEETING, AND SOME OF THESE STATES CAN KIND OF MOVE AROUND, UM, AS NEEDED.

UH, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT, UM, THE CAMPAIGN LAUNCH SPECIFICALLY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SUMMER CAMPAIGN, UM, AND YOU WORK BACKWARDS, THAT MEANS THAT WE WOULD NEED, UM, ASSETS BEFORE 53 WEEKS FROM NOW.

UM, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON, ON WHAT WORKS FOR OUR TIMING.

SO OUR ASK TONIGHT IS FOR APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT OF $245,000 FOR THE REQUIRED SERVICES, PLUS THE $36,000 FOR THE AD PLACEMENT SERVICES.

UM, THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IN THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT COUNCIL VALUES THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON ADS.

UM, AND THEN AS THE BUDGET ALLOWS, STAFF CAN DECIDE IF AND WHEN TO ADD ON ANY OF THE BROADCAST MEDIA SERVICES.

WHAT QUESTIONS DO Y'ALL HAVE? BRIAN? I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE ONE?

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SO YOU GOING FOR THAT MIC? OKAY.

I CAN, I CAN IF YOU WANT.

SURE.

THANK YOU LAUREN.

UH, YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED, UH, A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, UH, PETE AND I OR COUNSELOR FURMAN, WHICH ONE, AND I, UH, DISCUSSED WITH, UH, KAREN YESTERDAY.

BUT IN THE PACKET ON PAGE 2 94, THERE IS A, UH, LINE ITEM FOR DATA FIVE LLC.

AND CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS HOW WE ARE AVOIDING DUPLICATION OF EFFORT GIVEN ALL THE DIFFERENT DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS THAT WE DO HAVE UNDERWAY? I CAN, SO I DUG INTO THIS, UM, ITEM SPECIFICALLY WITH THEM, UH, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GREAT NEW SYMPHONY PACKAGE, UM, WHAT DATA FI DOES SPECIFICALLY AND WHY I TOLD THEM THAT WE ABSOLUTELY WANT THIS.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAD USED SPECIFICALLY IN MIND FOR IS BECAUSE THAT PLATFORM CAN ACTUALLY TRACK, UM, NOT ONLY IF SOMEONE COMES INTO MARKET, BUT THEY'RE IN MY INITIAL MEETING.

I DON'T WANNA OVER PROMISE AND UNDER-DELIVER.

SO I'M GONNA BE CAREFUL HERE.

BUT, UM, WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY WAS THAT WE COULD NOT ONLY MEASURE IF THEY CAME IN MARKET AFTER SEEING THAT AD, BUT WE COULD ALSO TELL FOR HOW LONG AND ALMOST A PINPOINT OF, OF WHERE THEY WENT.

SO IF I COULD, IF I COULD KIND OF LIKE I DID WITH YOU, UM, THE OTHER DAY, MELISSA, MAKING THOSE, UM, GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, I CAN DO THAT AS WELL INTO THE AD PLACEMENT, WHICH IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

UM, AND IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE'RE ALL, UM, IT'S EXTREMELY TIME INTENSIVE.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THIS WORKS OUT.

BUT AT LEAST FOR THIS, UM, INITIAL WINTER MARKETING CAMPAIGN, MY GOAL IS TO COME SHOW YOU ALL, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE AD PLACEMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR.

I KNOW THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

SO AT LEAST FOR THIS INITIAL STRATEGY, LET'S KIND OF PUT ALL OF OUR EGGS IN THAT BASKET.

AND THEN WITH THE SUMMER CAMPAIGN, THEN MAYBE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY TO DO SOME MORE TRADITIONAL ADVERTISING AS WELL.

THANK YOU LAUREN.

YEAH, MAYOR, I'LL HAVE DISCUSSION COMMENTS, BUT I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MELISSA.

VICE MAYOR, I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH KAREN YESTERDAY AS WELL, BUT I, I NOTICED THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON PROVING IS ON THE RESEARCH AREA.

AND, UH, MAYBE YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

I'M SURE YOU HAD DIALOGUE WITH THEM AROUND THAT.

WE DID.

UM, AND PART OF WHAT WE LIKED WAS THAT WITH WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR TOURISM JOURNEY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A BRAND IS, WE REALLY FELT LIKE A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT WAS NECESSARY.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY STAKEHOLDERS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENT INTERCEPT SURVEYS, IT'S GOING TO BE VISITOR INTERCEPT SURVEYS SO THAT WE CAN GET A REALLY GOOD COMPREHENSIVE IDEA OF WHAT THE SENTIMENT IS AROUND TOURISM.

AND THEN THAT CAN HELP INFORM THEM ON WHAT THE BRAND, UM, COULD BE GOING FORWARD.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS QUITE A BIT, UM, INVESTED IN THAT, BUT WE ACTUALLY LIKED THAT 'CAUSE WE FELT LIKE THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE TO DO THAT RESEARCH.

DESTINATION MARKETING CAMPAIGN, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TOUCH POINTS.

I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THAT INTERCEPT SURVEY.

UH, THAT'S VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.

IF IT'S THE WAY I'M THINKING THAT THE, OUR FORMER, UH, PROJECTS WERE DONE.

WE HAD PEOPLE FROM NAUI MEAN, HOW DOES THIS COMPANY PLAN TO DO THAT? SO THEY HAVE A CONTRACT, UM, WITH A COMPANY THAT THEY'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE THAT'S DONE THIS, NOT JUST IN OUR LOCATION, BUT IN LOCATIONS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

UM, SO THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN DO IT HERE AS WELL.

UH, LAUREN, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SCOPE SLIDE? SO NOW TO DATE, WE'VE UH, HIRED A CONSULTANT, WE'VE PUT SOME STAFF INTO PLACE.

WE'VE GOT A TOURISM BOARD SELECTED.

NOW WE'VE GOT THIS CONTRACT AND THIS SCOPE KIND OF LOOKS OUT A LITTLE BIT.

MY QUESTION REALLY IS AT WHAT OTHER TOUCH POINTS ARE YOU EXPECTING TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THAT SCOPE OF WORK? YEAH, I THINK THAT WHEN WE HAVE, UH, STRATEGIC PLANS, THAT WILL BE A A POINT WHERE IT COMES TO COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT WHEN WE HAVE, UM, THOSE BRANDING OPTIONS, WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD AND WE'LL TAKE IT TO YOU.

UM, CERTAINLY WITH THE

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AWESOME.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.

MARY JESSICA.

UM, AFTER YOU DO THE FALL CAMP, THE WINTER CAMPAIGN, I GUESS, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THIS DATA WHERE YOU KNOW THAT THE KHOON FAMILY SAW YOUR AD IN ONE OF YOUR DESTINATION PUT AND THEY CAME HERE AND STAYED FOR THREE DAYS AND ATE AT THE COWBOY CLUB AND WENT TO THE HISTORIC MUSEUM, AND YOU HAVE ALL THAT DATA, ARE YOU GONNA COME BACK THEN AND SHARE THAT DATA WITH US THEN? I THINK THE POINT IS TO DO REGULAR UPDATES WITH CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER THAT'S QUARTERLY, MAY IT, I IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE FREQUENT AT THE BEGINNING AS WE'VE GOT LOTS OF INFORMATION TO SHARE AND THEN ONCE WE GET UP AND RUNNING, UM, MAYBE IT TAPERS OFF.

BUT, UM, I WILL SAY I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE INTENTIONS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WHERE THEY ATE DINNER, , UM, AND THOSE THINGS.

DARN, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY BE OVER PROMISING, UH, AND UNDER-DELIVERING.

BUT, UM, BUT AT SOME POINT, UM, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DATA AND THERE SEEMS JUST TO BE A LOT OF IT FLOATING AROUND, UNLIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO I ADMIRE BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE DATA DRIVEN.

IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MY POINT, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SORT OF HEAR AT SOME POINT ABOUT WHAT THE DATA, WHAT DATA WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM, FROM ALL THESE SOURCES THAT WE'VE KIND OF, I'VE HEARD GO BY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS AND THERE'S THIS AND THERE'S THIS.

SO THAT'S, I I WAS JUST WONDERING WHEN AT LEAST ONCE THERE COULD BE, ARE YOU PLANNING OR, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR KAREN , UM, UM, JUST SORT OF SOMETHING ABOUT THE DATA, WHAT, WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GET, WHAT WE DID GET AND WHAT THAT TELLS US.

YES, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE DOING THAT.

I THINK AT THIS POINT WE WENT INTO SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE DETAIL YES.

AT THE LAST PRESENTATION.

AND THAT WAS BASICALLY OUR FIRST, UH, YEAH.

THREE MONTHS UPDATE RIGHT.

ON WHERE WE WERE.

AS WE ARE BUILDING A PROGRAM FROM SCRATCH, AND THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW TO, TO ALL OF YOU AND TO US, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE TOUCH POINTS.

THE DATA PIECE OF THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S VAST, IT'S OVERWHELMING.

UH, I THINK SOME OF IT IS MORE RELIABLE THAN OTHER TOUCHPOINTS OF DATA.

AND WE AS A TEAM AND ONCE WE BUILD OUT OUR TEAM, 'CAUSE WE, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE FOLKS IN-HOUSE WHO REALLY CAN UNDERSTAND AND DIG IN AND UTILIZE IT FOR DECISION MAKING.

IT'S ONE THING TO SORT OF HAVE A LOT OF DATA OUT THERE.

IT'S ANOTHER THING TO TAKE IT, SYNTHESIZE IT, ANALYZE IT EXACTLY.

AND THEN USE IT TO MAKE DECISIONS.

SO I THINK THAT THE FIRST REAL, REAL DATA OUT OUTCOME RESULTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING TO COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE THE WINTER CAMPAIGN.

UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE ABLE WITH A VERY SMALL CAMPAIGN AND A SMALL BUDGET, BUT TO TIE THE PLACEMENT OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF MARKETING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON, TO BE ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK AND HAVE THOSE ATTRIBUTION REPORTS AND BE ABLE TO DRAW SOME CONCLUSIONS ABOUT HOW IT WORKED.

THAT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK OUR FIRST SORT OF BIG COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AND THIS IS HOW IT WORKED.

AS FAR AS THE SYMPHONY TOOLS AND THE, THE KIMLEY HORN WILL BE ANOTHER, UM, REPORT THAT WE'LL HAVE IN THE COMING MONTHS IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, BUT A LOT OF THAT IS GONNA COME, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST AFTER FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

AND AS WE GET, BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH TO DO.

WELL, LET ME JUST, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR IN THAT I DON'T WANT, OR MY, I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT A PRESENTATION ON DATA REPEATEDLY.

I MEAN, AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES A TOOL THAT YOU USE TO DO YOUR JOB.

YOU KNOW, YOU, UM, I AT, I WOULD JUST LIKE SORT OF AN EXAMPLE AT ONE POINT OF, OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS, WHAT WE DID, WHAT THE DATA TELLS US, UM, AND WHAT CONCLUSIONS WE COME TO THAT WILL GUIDE OUR NEXT STEP

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JUST ONCE MAYBE.

NOT, I CERTAINLY DON'T BELIEVE COUNCIL SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN, IN DATA ANALYSIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE COMING BEFORE YOU WITH A PRESENTATION JUST ON DATA.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THOUGH IS AS WE TALK TO YOU ABOUT BRANDING MM-HMM.

, AS WE TALK TO YOU ABOUT MARKETING CAMPAIGNS, IS WE TALK TO YOU ABOUT MARKETING STRATEGIES.

IF WE, AS WE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE NEW TOURISM BUREAU, EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS WILL HOPEFULLY BE PREMISED DRIVEN BY THE, ON THE DATA.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BRING AS WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, I, I READ THEIR PROPOSAL AND IT, IT CERTAINLY WAS FILLED WITH DATA-DRIVEN DECISION MAKING.

, I'M CURIOUS AS TO THE OTHER PROPOSALS WHERE THEY AS STRONG IN THE DATA COLLECTION AND, AND THE TOOLS AS THIS COMPANY.

IS THAT A TREND YOU'RE SEEING IN, IN THE RESPONSES? ONE OF THE OTHER TOP THREE COMPANIES HAD A DATA PERSON THAT, THAT CAME UP AND PRESENTED.

I FELT LIKE, I'LL SAY THAT I FELT LIKE DVA UNDERSTOOD WHEN I, SO I, I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT DATA AND ATTRIBUTION AND HE SAID, WHERE'S THIS COMING FROM? THE PERSON ON DVA STAFF? AND WHEN I TALKED ABOUT COUNCIL AND, AND, AND WHAT THEY WERE HOPING TO SEE, HE SAID, I GET IT.

YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY DESTINATION GOING THROUGH THIS.

WE'VE WORKED WITH OTHER DESTINATIONS IN THIS SAME WAY, AND HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU, AND HERE'S HOW I CAN TRACK IT.

IT JUST CLICKED.

SO YES, ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, COMPANIES DID, BUT DVA KNOCKED IT OUTTA THE PARK, ESPECIALLY IN THAT REALM.

I DID NOTICE THAT THEY EXCEED BENCHMARKS, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WHAT IT ALL MEANS, BUT THEY HAVE EXCEEDED BOTH FOR GOOGLE AND FOR FACEBOOK OR OTHER META PLATFORMS. SO THERE WOULD BE META PLATFORMS, UH, THE INDUSTRY BENCHMARKS BY A, A LARGE PERCENTAGE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN? ? UM, NO, BUT I CAN ASK THEM.

, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IN THE RFP, BUT I CAN, IT'S A PAGE.

I CAN DO A FOLLOW UP 2 92 OF OUR PACKET AND PAGE 10 OF THE RFP.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW.

I'M JUST GONNA, I'M JUST GONNA EARMARK IT.

UM, SO THOSE ARE YOUR QUESTIONS.

BRIAN, YOU DID SAY YOU HAD COMMENTS.

A ACTUALLY, I JUST WANNA SPEAK TO, UH, THE VICE MAYOR'S QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT'S BEING REFERRED TO ON PACKET PAGE 2 92 IS THE CLICK THROUGH RATE AND THE COST PER CLICKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH DVA CLIENT WORK AND HOW THAT COMPARES TO WHAT IS COMMON WITHIN GOOGLE OR WITHIN META.

SO THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THEY'RE GETTING CONSIDERABLY HIGHER CLICK-THROUGH RATES AT CONSIDERABLY LOWER, UH, COST PER CLICKS, UH, PARTICULARLY ON, UH, GOOGLE.

SO IT'S GOOD.

IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT, IT'S VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THEIR STRENGTH AS A PROVIDER.

THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON.

HAPPY TO HELP.

NO PROBLEM.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

SO NOW YOU, YOU WANTED TO MAKE COMMENTS? SURE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, SO LAUREN AND TEAM, UH, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.

WELL DONE.

I THINK THAT, UH, THE RIGOR THAT YOU ALL APPLIED TO THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THE VARIOUS POTENTIAL VENDORS, UH, APPEARS REALLY QUITE ROBUST.

I KNOW IN SPEAKING WITH KAREN, SHE MENTIONED THAT PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS NOW IS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT PROPOSALS BLIND OF COST.

UH, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT THING, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU ALL LANDED UNANIMOUSLY.

I KNOW BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THAT FINAL DECISION, YOU HAD COST DATA, BUT AT LEAST IN TERMS OF SHORTLISTING WHO TO INTERVIEW AND THAT SORT OF THING, YOU WERE COMPLETELY BLIND ON COST.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, OVERALL, I, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS WHAT YOU'VE HEARD COUNSEL SAY THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE THE EFFICACY OF THE AD PROGRAMS. AND SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT, UH, AND NOT JUST CAPABLE, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST ACCORDING TO WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BENCHMARKS THAT, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH, HIT ARE CERTAINLY, UH, ABOVE INDUSTRY AVERAGE.

AND THAT'S ENCOURAGING AS

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WELL.

I THOUGHT THEIR CREATIVE EXAMPLES WERE REALLY COOL.

I MEAN, YOU COULD TELL THAT THERE WAS SOME SOUL BEHIND EACH OF THE EXAMPLES THAT THEY SHOWED.

SO I REALLY AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THREE BRAND, UH, CONCEPTS THEY BRING TO OUR CITY FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION.

AND I HOPE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE END UP HAVING JUST GREAT PRIDE IN OVER, UM, HOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO INTERPRET BOTH, UH, RESIDENT AND VISITOR SENTIMENT, UH, DURING THAT COMPREHENSIVE RESEARCH PHASE.

UH, OVERALL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, UH, A GREAT SENSE OF HOPE THAT, UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE A, A TERRIFIC LEAP FORWARD FOR TOURISM MANAGEMENT IN OUR CITY.

UH, AND ALONG WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD HERE, YOU KNOW, I I HOPE YOU ALL ARE AS EXCITED, UH, AS AT LEAST I KNOW I AM.

I HOPE THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE, I HOPE YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING TO WORK WITH THIS FIRM AND WHAT I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BRING TO US.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, MELISSA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.

UM, SO DITTO COUNCILOR FOLTZ AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOUR TEAM HAS DONE, INCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER, UM, OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS TO GET US FROM ZERO TO AT LEAST MAYBE 59, 58.

UM, THAT'S REALLY AMAZING.

AND SO, I, I JUST WANNA SAY KEEP KEEP PUSHING.

YOU'RE MAKING, TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING TERRIFIC DECISIONS ON PARTNERS.

UM, YOU'RE MAKING TERRIFIC DECISIONS AROUND JUST GETTING OUT THERE AND NOT OVERTHINKING IT, BUT TRYING THINGS.

AND SOME WILL WORK AND SOME WON'T.

AND THAT'S AWESOME.

SO, UM, AS MY FELLOW COUNSELOR SAID, UM, AGAIN, DITTO .

UM, BUT YEAH, I'M REALLY EXCITED AND I THINK WE'VE GOT SO MANY OF THE PIECES IN PLACE NOW THAT, UM, I'M REALLY, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO.

ALL OF YOU, INCLUDING ALL OF YOU OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE IN THE TAB.

SO THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

I'VE JUST LOVED THEIR CREATIVE.

I'VE BEEN TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PLACES.

AND THEY REALLY CAPTURED FOR ME THE ESSENCE OF THOSE PLACES.

AND THEY WERE SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT AND THEIR BRANDING WAS UNIQUE TO THE DESTINATION.

AND I THOUGHT THEIR RESUMES WERE EXCELLENT AND A LARGE NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR, FOR A WHILE.

AND SO THAT THEY'RE NOT CHURNING PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NEW, NEW NEWBIES AS WELL, WHICH IS GOOD TOO.

'CAUSE YOU GET FRESH IDEAS.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THEM AND I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE WEST, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER PLACES WITHIN THE US.

AND, AND I THINK WE SHARE A NUMBER OF SIMILARITIES WITH THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY HAVE AS THEIR CLIENTELE.

AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE WAY AND THE CAMPAIGN THAT THEY DID FOR, LET'S SEE WHO IT WAS, PAGE NUMBER, NOT HOLY SCHNITZEL, WIENER SCHITZ.

BUT, UH, WHICH WAS HILARIOUS.

AND I, AND I'VE BEEN TO LEAVENWORTH , THAT IS WHAT IT'S LIKE, BUT, UM, NORTH COUNTRY.

OH, I SAW THAT.

AH, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE STRETCHY PANTS.

I MEAN, THAT FOOD LOOKS SO DELICIOUS, , IT, IT RESONATED THAT, AND IT HIGHLIGHTED WHAT THE NORTHWEST, UH, YOU KNOW, SEATTLE AREA, THE, THE NO COUNTRY AS THEY CALL IT, UH, IS KNOWN FOR MM-HMM.

AND IN A, THEIR SENSE OF HUMOR, I LIKED A LOT.

SO I, I'M VERY EXCITED.

I HOPE YOU ALL WILL BE EXCITED AS WELL.

THANK YOU, PETE.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO SAY DITTO RATHER THAN SAY DITTO.

SO I THINK THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT SAYS HERE, HERE.

SO , THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.

AND I DO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO COMMENT THAT, UH, I, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE AND I HOPE THAT YOU ARE, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE, UH, INTERESTED IN DATA INFORMED DECISIONS, AND WE ARE, WE REMAIN SO, UH, EVEN MARK, MY COUNCIL MEMBER, I DIDN'T THINK, UH, PROHIBITED IT, BUT I THINK THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO CONTINUE TO, UH, TO BE ENGAGED IN BEING DATA INFORMED AND, AND MAKING DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS.

SO THANK YOU.

REALLY GLAD THAT YOU GUYS REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

JESSICA, I'M NOT AGAINST DATA .

I THINK IT'S NICE AND I'M

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UM, I JUST, I'M EXCITED BY THIS.

I THINK THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR SEDONA.

UM, AND I WANNA THANK ONCE AGAIN STAFF FOR DEDICATING EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF THEIR LIFE TO THIS ENDEAVOR ALONG WITH THEIR DAY JOBS, , ALONG WITH THEIR DAY JOBS.

WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

THEY, THEY DO HAVE OTHER JOBS THAT THEY, I THINK IT'S BEEN AMAZING WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH IN THE QUALITY OF WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN US, UM, WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT SACRIFICED QUALITY FOR, FOR SPEED.

SO THANK YOU.

SO FOR MYSELF, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT EITHER, BUT DON'T DO IT THEN.

I WON'T DO IT, BUT WHAT, WHAT THEY SAID.

BUT, UH, IN LOOKING AT THE, THE PACKET, LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION, THE FACT THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT GOT IT MM-HMM .

AND I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK TO DO THAT.

AND I JUST APPRECIATE, I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE NOW INTO ALMOST FOUR MONTHS? YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THESE ARE GREAT STRIDES AND I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK OUR COMMUNITY WILL APPRECIATE IT.

I HOPE THAT OUR TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS WILL, I THINK THAT THEY'LL APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

I'M SO EXCITED WHEN EVERYBODY GETS TOGETHER.

IF YOU, THE BOARD IS ENCOURAGED TO SEE THE KIND OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE AND THE DEDICATION THAT THEY HAVE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THEIR DAY JOB.

THEY STILL HAVE OTHER JOBS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, BUT THIS IS A QUALITY OF WORK THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH.

AND I HOPE YOU ARE ALL EXCITED AS I AM AND THE COUNSELORS, I'M JUST GO FORTH AND CONQUER.

THANKS.

KEEP GOING.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? OH, YES.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

EVERYBODY.

OH, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.

SORRY, JESSICA, YOU LOSE THAT.

BRIAN.

UH, I MOVED TO APPROVE AWARD OF RFP NUMBER 2023 SLASH 24 DASH 0 0 2 BRANDING AND MARKETING SERVICES TODAY, LEY AND ASSOCIATES, D-B-A-D-B-A, ADVERTISING AND PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $281,000 THROUGH OCTOBER 24TH, 2024, WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND FOR THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERMS. SECOND.

ANY OPPOSED? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM

[8.e. AB 3012 Discussion/possible action regarding approval of award RFP No. 2023/24-001, Project Management Services for the Selection and Implementation of an Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) System, to SoftResources, LLC for an amount not- to-exceed $315,750.00 through October 24, 2026, or at such time as the work in the Scope of Work is completed, whichever occurs first.]

DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF AWARD RFP NUMBER 2023, UH, SLASH 24 DASH 0 0 1.

PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE SELECTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ENTERPRISE RESOURCE, UH, PLANNING ERP SYSTEM TO, UH, SOFT RESOURCES LLC FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $315,750 THROUGH OCTOBER 24TH, 2026, OR AT SUCH TIME AS THE WORK IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, UH, IS COMPLETED.

WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST, SHERRY, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS ARE LEAVING.

GEE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

TAKE CARE.

GOING THROUGH DOING MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENTS TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT NEEDS ARE, HELP THEM WITH IDENTIFYING NEEDS IN AREAS THAT THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT MODERN TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS CAN DO SOME THINGS THAT WILL HELP MAKE THEIR WORK MORE EFFICIENT.

THEY'RE NOT EXCITED ABOUT ERP .

WHAT'S THE MATTER? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, SO I AM HERE TONIGHT TO, UM, ASK FOR THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT FOR A CONSULTANT TO HELP US THROUGH THE ERP UM, PROCESS.

THE, UM, COMMITTEE WHO DID THE REVIEW FOR THE, UM, BASED OFF OF THE INTERVIEWS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON THE CONSULTANT FIRM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS FIRM.

THE ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH, UM, CONSULTANTS OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, TWO, THREE YEARS, YOU WANT THEM NOT ONLY TO BE QUALIFIED AND BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA, BUT YOU ALSO WANT THEM TO BE PEOPLE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE ARE A GOOD FIT WITH THE TEAM TO WORK WITH ON SUCH AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THAT.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS FIRM.

I THINK THEY'RE A GREAT FIT FOR US, AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE, VERY, VERY EXPERIENCED.

AND SO VERY, VERY, UM, UH, HAPPY THAT, THAT, UH, EVERYONE WAS AGREED ON THIS.

UM, THE COMPANY WOULD HELP WITH BASICALLY ALL THOSE STEPS WITH THE ERP PROCESS,

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BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE SURPRISED AT WHAT IS AVAILABLE OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT.

UM, AND THEN HELP WITH, UM, DEVELOPING THE RFP, HELPING WITH, UM, UM, HELPING NAVIGATE THE DEMOS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE SAT THROUGH SOFTWARE DEMOS, BUT THEY CAN SHOW YOU THINGS AND IT'S LIKE, OH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S OKAY.

BUT THEN THEY KNOW THESE SOFTWARES AND THEY'LL KNOW WHERE THE PITFALLS ARE.

UM, HELP US GO THROUGH THAT SELECTION PROCESS AND HELP US GO THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT SOFTWARE.

UM, IN MY EXPERIENCE, UM, WITH, UH, ERP SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF, AND WITH SOME OF MY, UM, FORMER CLIENTS IN MY PRIOR LIFE THAT WENT THROUGH ERP SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATIONS, UH, CONSULTANT CAN REALLY HELP MAKE OR BREAK.

UM, ONE OF THE PLACES THAT I WORKED AT, WE HAD A TIMELINE OF GETTING THE INITIAL, UM, COUPLE MODULES GOING.

WE HAD SET A TIMELINE FOR SIX MONTHS AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE CONSULTANT DID TO HELP PUT THAT IN, WE ACTUALLY GOT IT DONE IN THREE MONTHS.

UM, FOR THOSE FIRST, UM, COUPLE MODULES, I HAVE SEEN THINGS GO WHERE WITH A, A FORMER CLIENT OF MINE WHERE THEY SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF WORKING ON IMPLEMENTATION, DIDN'T GET ANYTHING IMPLEMENTED, FINALLY DECIDED THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK FOR US, AND WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND HAD TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO YOU, YOU HAVE WIDE SPECTRUMS OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN.

UM, SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS FIRM.

UM, DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT WE GO GO WITH THEM.

SO I DUNNO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

LET'S START ON THIS SIDE FIRST.

JESSICA, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL YOU'RE MOVING AHEAD ON THIS.

DID YOU HAVE, DID WE HAVE CONSULTANTS FOR SPRINGBROOK? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NO.

I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY SMART TO GET A CONSULTANT.

PETE COMMENT, COMMENTS ON, OKAY.

VICE MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

LISTEN, NO QUESTIONS.

SHERRY? UM, CAN YOU, FOR THE LARGE AUDIENCE THAT WE HAVE AND UH, POSSIBLY WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING AT HOME, UH, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE SCOPE OF SERVICES FROM THE CONSULTANT? SO THERE'S THE UPFRONT SELECTION, BUT THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THEY'RE HERE FOR THE DURATION AS OUR ADVOCATE.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE, PARDON ME? CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PART OF THE ROLE JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT? UM, SO THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN AN IMPLEMENTATION OF A SYSTEM.

UM, THERE'S NOT ONLY DECISIONS ABOUT, UM, CONVERTING DATA OVER WHAT DO WE CONVERT, UM, DID THE CONVERSION WORK WELL.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY COULD BE HELPFUL WITH.

UM, BUT ALSO, UM, IN THE SETUP OF THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS, ANY SYSTEM HAS DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

SO DO YOU WANT IT TO WORK THIS WAY OR DO YOU WANT IT TO WORK THAT WAY? AND, UM, SO BEING ABLE TO HELP WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT YEAH, IT CAN, IT CAN WIDELY VARY AND SOME OF IT, UM, IS ALSO PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UM, TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THINGS ARE STAYING ON TRACK, UM, AND DEALING WITH, UM, STAFF, UM, ANXIETIES ABOUT GOING THROUGH CHANGE.

MM-HMM, .

UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT CAN HAPPEN.

SOME PEOPLE EMBRACE CHANGE EASIER AND BETTER THAN OTHERS DO.

I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY WIDE CONSENSUS ON SPRINGBROOK DOES NOT WORK FOR US.

UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, OH, NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH A CHANGE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY PROVIDE IS HELPING WITH CHANGE MANAGEMENT AS WELL, AND PROVIDING, UM, UH, INFORMATION TO EVERYONE ABOUT THE STATUS OF WHERE THINGS ARE AT TO HELP KEEP, KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED.

ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN LIVING WITH SPRINGBROOK, ADP, OTHER SYSTEMS THAT, UM, WE'RE HAVING TO DO A LOT OF WORKAROUNDS AND IT CREATES EXTRA WORK.

AND GREAT.

YOUR, UH, RESPONSE IS A PERFECT SEGUE TO MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS ON A SCALE OF, UH, ONE TO 10, WHERE 10 IS EXHILARATED AND ONE IS ANXIETY INDUCING, WHERE ARE YOU RIGHT NOW ON THIS PROCESS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON? UM, I, I AM VERY, VERY EXCITED AND WITH THIS FIRM, LIKE, I'M EVEN MORE EXCITED.

GOOD.

UM, BUT KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK AND WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S JUST A CONTINUED A LOT OF WORK.

SO, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS I COULD BE, BUT UNDERSTOOD.

BUT I'M

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AND SO I'M ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED TO GET SOMETHING THAT'S A MORE MODERN SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

HERE, HERE.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE, IF YOU'LL HAVE AN ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S A GENERALIZED QUESTION, BUT WHATEVER COMPANY YOU DO SWITCH OVER TO FROM SPRINGBROOK, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO SWITCH ALL THE DATA OVER THE, THE PRIOR STUFF? UM, THE DATA ITSELF WOULDN'T, YOU DON'T GET IT UPLOADED DOWN, LOAD IT SOMEWHERE TO GET FROM THE OLD SYSTEM, THE SPRING BOOK TO WHATEVER NEW SYSTEM.

IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ANSWER THAT.

I FIGURED.

'CAUSE IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT THE DATA IS, UM, HOW COMPLICATED THE DATA IS, HOW MUCH CHECKING AND VERIFYING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU, JUST AS A REGULAR COUNT.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU WENT FROM, UH, ADP TO SPRINGBROOK, HOW WOULD, HOW JUST, WHAT'S THAT? IT'S JUST TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. WHEN, WHEN SPRINGBROOK WAS IMPLEMENTED, THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME.

I WASN'T HERE FOR CHRISTOPHER.

THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.

ALRIGHT, .

I, LIKE I SAID, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS A WILD ANSWER, A QUESTION, BUT, 'CAUSE I'VE CHANGED SYSTEMS OF MY PRIOR JOB, UH, FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT I, I WAS UTILIZING AND SOME OF THAT DATA, WE ENDED UP LOSING IT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT COULD HAPPEN.

I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT WHERE THAT WOULD LEAVE US.

SO, BUT I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH BACKUPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, YEAH.

AND, AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO WORK ON THAT AND IDENTIFY HOW MUCH INFORMATION DO WE NEED AND SOME OF IT WE RETAIN IN A DATA SEARCHABLE DATABASE THAT WE DON'T EVEN CONVERT IN IS ALSO A, A VERY VIABLE OPTION.

YOU HAVE ONE.

WORKS FOR ME.

I HEAR SOMETHING TO MY LEFT.

JESSICA, YOU DO UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PHASED IN, AS YOU SAID WITH MODULES, IS IT A, A TWO YEAR PROCESS? UM, A ONE YEAR PROCESS, A THREE YEAR PROCESS? UM, YOU REALLY CAN'T SAY NOW.

RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO DEPEND GREATLY ON HOW MANY AND WHAT THE MODULES ARE.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY, UM, ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO THREE YEARS WOULD BE OKAY.

THAT'S A GOOD GUESS.

THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY COMMENTS, PETE? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS.

YOU KNOW, THIS EFFORT STARTED IN JANUARY AT OUR RETREAT WHERE WE SAID THIS WAS IMPORTANT AND, AND WE MOVED IT A WAYS AND, AND IT'S GREAT.

UH, AND WE ALL DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS GONNA BE MORE AKIN TO A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE ROCK CRAWLING JOURNEY.

UH, IT'LL BE FUN AND EXHILARATING AT TIMES AND, AND SLOW AND, AND DIFFICULT THAT OTHERS AND SOME THINGS MAY BREAK.

BUT, UM, IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE RELIABLE TOOLS LIKE THIS.

SO HERE, HERE, , GET GIT A AND THANKS, MAYOR.

THIS, THIS WAS A, A, A DECISION PACKAGE FOR YEARS, RIGHT? ACIP PROJECT.

YES.

OUR CIP PROJECT, AND IT WAS PUSHED TO THE BACK BURNER BECAUSE OF WORKLOAD.

UNTIL IT COULDN'T BE PUSHED BACK ANY LONGER BECAUSE SPRING BOOK SAID THEY WEREN'T GONNA MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM ANYMORE.

SO WE WERE BITING THE BULLET AND MOVING FORWARD.

AND IF YOU NEED THERAPY DURING THIS PROCESS, YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOU CAN RECOMMEND.

YES.

BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T OVERSTATE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A CONSULTANT AND, UH, BOTH FOR HANDHOLDING AND FOR VITAL INFORMATION.

YOU'RE IN A WORSE POSITION THAN WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED? SO, UH, I READ THE PROPOSAL AND LOOKED AT THE QUALIFICATIONS, AND I THINK I REMEMBER ACTUALLY WHEN THEY SEPARATED FROM KPMG ALL THOSE YEARS AGO, 'CAUSE OF SOME CONFLICTS OF, OF INTEREST WITH THE DIRECTION KPMG WAS TAKING.

, BECAUSE I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND I KNOW WHERE THE PITFALLS ARE AND THE DEMOS SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPES, BUT THEY, THAT THE VENDORS WILL PROVIDE FOR YOU.

BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THERE WHO KNOWS THESE SYSTEMS INTIMATELY AND KNOWS THE ISSUES WITH THEM, YOU REALLY CAN MAKE HUGE MISTAKES.

AND PEOPLE MAKE THEM ALL THE TIME AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE LIKE SPRING AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE RIGHT.

AND, AND THEY, AND ALSO THE STAFF MORALE, BECAUSE YOU PUT IN ALL THIS WORK AND DON'T GET WHAT YOU NEED FROM THE SYSTEM.

LIKE, DO YOU THINK

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AND, UH, AND THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD REPUTATION IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO I THINK YOU PICKED, WELL, I KNEW SOME OF THE OTHER VENDORS THAT, THAT PUT IN PROPOSALS ALSO, WHO WERE GOOD COMPANIES.

SO I THINK THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THEM THAT YOU COULD HAVE PICKED THAT WERE, WOULD'VE DONE WELL FOR US.

BUT I, I THINK YOU MADE A VERY GOOD DECISION.

I THINK SO TOO.

AND, AND YOU MENTIONED ABOUT SPRINGBROOK AND SO BACK IN JANUARY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WERE, UM, SAYING THAT THEY NEEDED US TO DO LIKE A SMALL UPGRADE JUST FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, THAT UPGRADE STILL ISN'T DONE, .

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH.

JUST ONE ASPECT.

IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, KNOW ULTIMATELY IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC, BUT THE GETTING THERE IS GONNA HAVE A LOT OF BUMPS AND BRUISES ALONG THE WAY.

BUT I THINK WITH THEIR HELP, YOU CAN MINIMIZE THOSE.

ALRIGHT, MELISSA? SO I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE, BUT I HAVE DONE THIS MANY PLACES WITH MANY GIANT CRITICAL SYSTEMS AND, UM, YEAH, DEMOS ARE MEANT TO LOOK GOOD AND ALWAYS WORK.

AND THE REALITY IS KIND OF USUALLY DIFFERENT.

SO HAVING SOMEONE WHO'S DONE THIS BEFORE IN AN AREA WHERE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE EXPERT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY IS PAYING YOU TO DO, UM, THIS IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO, IS TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON AND COMPANY THAT CAN HELP YOU.

I READ THROUGH ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AS WELL, UM, PRETTY DETAILED ON THEIR OUTLINE AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET THINGS DONE AND WHEN THEY'RE GONNA GET THINGS DONE.

AND TO HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE UPFRONT TO KNOW, UM, I WOULD FIND PERSONALLY PRETTY COMFORTING.

UM, AS OPPOSED TO, WELL, MAYBE IN ONE TO THREE MONTHS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET TO X.

SO, UM, I THINK YOU, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.

I REMEMBER IN JANUARY WE DECIDED THE REASON TO GO FORWARD WAS THIS WAS BEYOND A BURNING PLATFORM.

UM, IT WAS LIKE IN SINS.

AND YOU, WE'VE NOW BURNED IT ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IT HAS BEEN BURNED TO THE GROUND.

SO LET US START AFRESH AND START ANEW AND, UM, IT'LL BE GREAT.

I ASK JUST ONE THING, DON'T QUIT AFTER THIS IS DONE , RIGHT? I WILL, I WILL SUPPLY THE WINE, BUT YOU NEED TO STAY.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WAS SAYING ABOUT PITFALLS AND ALL THAT, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ME THE DEVIL IS IN THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE USE CASES.

SO 95 PLUS PERCENT OF EVERYTHING MAY BE THIS NORMAL STANDARD WAY, BUT WELL GETTING DOCUMENTATION OF THE EXCEPTIONS IS WHERE THE REAL PAIN OR THE REAL BENEFIT WINDS UP COMING FROM IS WHAT I'VE SEEN.

SO, UH, I REALLY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO OFFER BEYOND WHAT, UH, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ABLY, UH, REMARKED.

SO GO FORTH AND CONQUER.

GOOD LUCK.

WE'RE HERE.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A, AN EAR TO LISTEN WHEN NECESSARY, UH, BUT HOPE THAT IT GOES SWIMMINGLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? OH MY GOD, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, BRIAN? I CAN DO THAT.

DO IT.

I MOVE TO APPROVE AWARD OF RFP NUMBER 2023 SLASH 24 DASH ONE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE SELECTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF AN ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING ERP SYSTEM TO SOFT RESOURCES LLC FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $315,750 THROUGH OCTOBER 24TH, 2026, OR AT SUCH TIME AS THE WORK AND THE SCOPE OF WORK IS COMPLETED, WHICHEVER OCCURS.

FIRST, SECOND.

ITEM FAB 27 19 PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM LEFT.

ACTUALLY TWO ITEMS. REALLY.

ONE ITEM LEFT ITEM F WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK FOR A FEW MINUTES OR JUST MOVE RIGHT THROUGH? KEEP GOING.

YEAH, LET'S GO.

HE'S GOT A SOCCER GAME, SCORPION TO OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

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[8.f. AB 2719 Presentation/discussion regarding the status of the Community Plan update planning process.]

DISCUSSION REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE PLANNING PROCESS.

CYNTHIA, GOOD EVENING, .

I HAVE TO BACK UP.

THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE.

SORRY.

UH, JUST A SEC.

I LIKE IT AS THE FIRST SIDE .

IT, IT WAS PRETTIER.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN PLANNING PROCESS AND TIME IS FLYING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE PROBABLY SINCE YOUR RETREAT.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT PROBABLY ALL OF YOU AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER HAVE FOLLOWED ALONG, UM, EITHER SITTING IN ON A WORK GROUP MEETING OR ATTENDING A A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THIS IS NOT NEWS TO YOU, .

IF IT IS, FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SO NATURAL ENVIRONMENT VERSUS BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

I'M GONNA START KIND OF FROM THE BEGINNING.

UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE SOME OF COUNCIL WAS NOT HERE PROBABLY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.

SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN OCTOBER, 2021 IS WHEN WE CAME TO CITY COUNCIL WITH OUR PROPOSAL FOR HOW WE WANTED TO UPDATE THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH IS DONE EVERY 10 YEARS.

UM, AND THEN WE HELD OUR FIRST WORK GROUP MEETING, AND THAT WAS DECEMBER, 2021.

SO DURING THAT TIMEFRAME THAT FALL, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF A WORK GROUP, WHO MIGHT BE ON IT, ET CETERA.

UM, SETTING UP THE, WE HAD TO DO A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE, ET CETERA.

UM, SO THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE FIRST, MAYBE SIX MONTHS OR SO.

AND THEN SETTING UP TO DO, UH, A SURVEY.

AND AROUND THAT TIME WE ALSO BROUGHT IN A CONSULTANT, WHICH IS SOUTHWEST DECISION RESOURCES.

AND THEY ARE COMMUNITY FACILITATORS.

AND THEY CAME ONLINE ABOUT MARCH OF 2022, WHICH WAS AROUND THE TIME THAT WE STARTED A, A HOUSEHOLD SURVEY THAT WAS SENT OUT TO ALL OF THE ADDRESSES IN THE CITY.

AND WE ENDED UP GETTING ABOUT 590, UM, RESPONSES, WHICH WAS PRETTY GOOD.

AND, AND THEN FOR 2022 OUTREACH, WE HAD OUR MORE OF A PUBLIC KICKOFF COMMUNITY FORUM.

AND THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 7TH AND I THINK YOU WERE PROBABLY ALL THERE ALONG WITH LIKE 350 OTHER PEOPLE, WHICH WAS AN AMAZING TURNOUT.

UM, AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF VIRTUAL LISTENING AND LEARNING SESSIONS.

UH, WE HAD ONE ON CIRCULATION TALKING ABOUT SEDONA IN MOTION.

UH, WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE HAD A, A COUPLE OF REGIONAL, UM, ECONOMIC EXPERTS THERE ALONG WITH OUR OWN STAFF.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD THE WORK GROUP.

AND TYPICALLY THEY MEET ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME MAYBE WHEN WE'RE PREPARING FOR SOMETHING LIKE A COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE WE WILL HAVE FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH THEM.

AND SO THEN 2023, UH, IN JANUARY WE HAD A PARTNER WORKSHOP.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE BROUGHT IN, UM, PARTNER AGENCIES.

SO THAT COULD BE LIKE THE FOREST SERVICE, THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE NON-PROFITS AS WELL THAT CAME TO THAT MEETING.

UH, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE.

UH, AND THEN THE MOST RECENT LARGE COMMUNITY FORUM WAS ON HOUSING.

AND THAT WAS IN APRIL.

IT WAS AT THE WEST EDON SCHOOL.

UM, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GUESSTIMATING AROUND 135 PARTICIPANTS.

NOT EVERYBODY SIGNS IN, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS.

UM, AND THEN WE HAD A, UH, SERIES OF COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS.

AND THESE WERE ACTUALLY LED BY, BY WORK GROUP VOLUNTEERS, UM, TWO OF WHICH WERE ON OUR WORK

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GROUP.

AND THAT'S LINDA MARTINEZ AND MARY GARLAND.

AND THEN WE HAD CAROL MISPRONOUNCE HER NA LAST NAME, KAMINSKI KAMINSKI, UM, WHO ALSO HELPED OUT.

UM, AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB.

THEY DID THE PRESENTATIONS, THEY PLANNED IT ALL OUT, AND STAFF WAS JUST KIND OF THERE TO ASSIST.

AND SO WE GOT ABOUT MAYBE 120 PEOPLE.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS FOR DOING THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING ONE WORKSHOP IN APRIL MEANT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COULDN'T MAKE IT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE WORKING.

AND A LOT OF OUR WORKERS ARE THE ONES WHO NEED HOUSING.

UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE REASON THEY DECIDED TO HOLD THOSE WORKSHOPS.

'CAUSE THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT TIMES, DAY AND WEEK AND, UM, LOCATIONS.

SO, AND THEN THIS YEAR SO FAR WE'VE HAD 11 MEETINGS WITH A WORK GROUP, UM, WHO HAVE BEEN GIVING INPUT ALONG THE WAY.

UH, THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

WE'VE HAD A FEW SUBGROUPS THAT WE'LL MEET KIND OF SEPARATELY ABOUT PROBABLY TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO WHAT HAVE WE HEARD? UM, , I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS IN A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL.

UM, YOU PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY ISSUES ARE.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM 10 YEARS AGO EXCEPT THE STR, WHICH MAY NOT POP UP ON HERE AS LARGE AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, BUT I THINK IT'S SPREAD OUT.

SOME PEOPLE CALL IT AIRBNBS, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, SO BIG TOPICS AS YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TOURISM, AND THEN COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK ON THIS WORD CLOUD IS REPRESENTED HERE BY RESIDENTS AND THEN COMMUNITY.

UM, AND SO THAT I FEEL LIKE FROM OUR WORKSHOPS AND OUR WORK GROUP, IT SEEMS LIKE SENSE OF COMMUNITY IS TOP OF MIND AND ALL OF THESE OTHER TOPICS THAT WE HEAR THE MOST ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S SHORT TERM RENTALS OR O HVS, THOSE ARE LIKE THE HOT TOPICS, BUT IT REALLY ALL RELATES BACK TO PEOPLE WANTING THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND FEARING THAT IT'S GOING AWAY AND WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT.

SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING LIKE THE FOCUS OF THE PLAN, UH, THIS TIME AROUND.

AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE PLAN READY TO GO, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW.

SO RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE ARE PREPARING THE DRAFT PLAN.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH CHAPTER, REVISING THE CHAPTERS.

UM, WE DO HAVE NEW TOPICS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SEE THE RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE CHAPTER.

UM, THAT'S NEW.

IT WILL, IT'S PULLING SOME OF THE OLD ENVIRONMENT STUFF, UM, FOR SUSTAINABILITY.

AND THEN FOR THE RESILIENCY, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE EMERGENCY EVACUATION, UM, UH, WILDLAND FIRE PREPARATION, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN THE TOURISM COMPONENT, UM, IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

AND WE WERE GOING TO SPLIT IT INTO TWO CHAPTERS.

AND WE'VE MERGED IT WITH THE ECONOMY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CLOSELY TIED TOGETHER.

UM, AND BOTH OF THOSE SUSTAINABILITY AND TOURISM, THEY'RE ACROSS THE BOARD RELEVANT TO EVERYTHING, EVERY OTHER CHAPTER.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CROSS-REFERENCING.

UH, THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS WE ARE SPLITTING OUT HOUSING.

UM, IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN, IT WAS JUST A COUPLE PAGES AND NOW IT WILL BE ITS OWN STANDALONE CHAPTER AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF OUR, OUR BIGGEST ISSUES.

SO, CYNTHIA, CAN I STOP YOU FOR A MINUTE? MM-HMM.

, WHY DO YOU HAVE A SEPARATE CHAPTER ON ENVIRONMENT AND, AND RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE, OR ARE THEY NOT COMBINED? GOOD QUESTION.

UM, YEAH, WE DEBATED THAT ONE AND WE COULD STILL COMBINE THEM, BUT ENVIRONMENT, THE, THE SPLIT WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA SAY ENVIRONMENT IS MORE YOUR NATURAL RESOURCES, LAND, WATER, ET CETERA.

AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY HAS MORE TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO YOU'VE GOT THE NATURAL AND THEN

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AND SO THE SUSTAINABILITY GETS AT MORE OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AIR QUALITY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UM, THAT TYPE OF THING.

BUILDING ISSUES, YOU KNOW, BUILDING STANDARDS.

UM, AND SO THIS IS ALL KIND OF STILL IN FLUXX AS WE'RE WORKING ON THEM.

WE'VE GOT, MAJORITY OF THESE CHAPTERS ARE LIKE, WORKS IN PROGRESS.

SO WE HAVE THEM GOING IN DIFFERENT STAGES BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT ONE OF HOW WE ARE DOING THIS.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UH, THE PLANNING STAFF TEAM, OUR KIND OF THE CORE TEAM.

UM, THAT'S REALLY MYSELF AND THEN MIKE REBER, WHO'S PUTTING IN PART-TIME.

UM, BEHIND THE SCENES WORK, WE'VE GOT OUR CONSULTANTS AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH CITY STAFF.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THE HOUSING PROGRAM, UM, AND THEN THE WORK GROUP.

AND SO LITTLE QUOTE HERE IS, IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS OF CYCLING THROUGH CONTRIBUTORS FOR FEEDBACK AND EACH STEP ALONG THE WAY MAKING SURE THAT WE AREN'T MISSING ANY MAJOR PRIORITIES.

UM, SO I DIDN'T HAVE A FANCY DIAGRAM, BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE IT'S, IT'S THE CIRCULAR THING, UM, WHERE I'LL USE HOUSING CHAPTER AS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, I'LL WORK ON IT.

WELL ACTUALLY MIKE WORKED ON IT.

I WORK ON IT.

THEN IT GOES TO SHANNON IN OUR HOUSING PROGRAM, AND THEN IT'S GONNA GO TO THE WORK GROUP AND THEN IT'LL COME BACK AROUND AGAIN, .

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT OUT THERE, UM, AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.

UM, AND THAT WILL BE A DRAFT.

AND SO THIS IS A VERY GENERAL TIMELINE.

AND SO I'LL GET MORE SPECIFIC HERE.

UM, END OF NOVEMBER, WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND NOVEMBER 18TH TO RELEASE A DRAFT.

AND THEN BY STATE LAW WE HAVE TO NOTIFY, UM, I THINK THEY JUST CALL IT AGENCY PARTNERS FOR 60 DAYS SO THAT THEY HAVE 60 DAYS TO REVIEW IT.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE SEND IT OUT TO THE COUNTIES, STATE AGENCIES, WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF WHO IT'S REQUIRED TO GO TO.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE 60 DAY THING COMES INTO PLAY.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA USE THAT TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO REVIEW IT AS WELL.

UM, SO OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO, UM, SEND OUT NOTICES THAT THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW THE PLAN, AND ALSO TO ANNOUNCE, UM, A COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DECEMBER 2ND FOR DOING THAT.

UM, SOME OF THESE DATES ARE STILL TENTATIVE.

AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO DO A WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING A ZONING COMMISSION.

THAT WOULD BE IN DECEMBER AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN ALL OF THIS WOULD BE ONLINE AS WELL.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, UM, AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO GO ON THE INTERNET.

UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE WILL BE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEADING UP TO DECEMBER 2ND.

THIS WOULD BE BETWEEN THANKSGIVING AND WHEN THAT MEETING WILL HAPPEN WILL BE A SERIES OF SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE DOING SORT OF LIKE A QUESTIONNAIRE SURVEY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TOPICS.

AND IT WILL ALSO LEAD PEOPLE TO THE WEBSITE IF THEY WANT TO DO A MORE IN DEPTH QUESTIONNAIRE.

UM, SO THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S WITH THE HELP OF, UH, KEEGAN AND OUR CONSULTANTS WORKING ON THAT PIECE OF IT.

UM, SO PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION WORK SESSIONS.

I HAVE ABOUT, I THINK I HAVE TWO OF 'EM RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN I PUBLIC HEARING IN FEBRUARY, UH, WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UM, AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM, THEY CAN KIND OF DECIDE HOW MANY WORK SESSIONS DO THEY WANT OR DO THEY NEED BEFORE FEBRUARY.

UM, BUT WHAT WE ARE SHOOTING FOR IS MARCH 12TH FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE CAN WORK OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THEN SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A MARATHON MEETING , OR, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT GO OVER SEVERAL

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DAYS.

UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I, IS THERE ANY STATUTORY DATES WE HAVE TO MEET? OH YEAH, .

SO WHAT'S THE, THE FINAL? FINAL? SO THE FINAL FINAL IS THAT IT WAS APPROVED BY, UH, LET'S SEE, I THINK IT WAS MARCH 26TH, 2014 WAS THE FINAL APPROVAL.

AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT DONE BY THEN, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT A MARCH 12TH COUNCIL MEETING DATE.

UM, SO THAT'S OUR GOAL.

AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS ABOUT NOTICING, UM, WHETHER IT HAS TO DO WITH NOTICING THOSE PUBLIC AGENCIES OR NOTICING FOR THE, UM, P AND Z HEARING THE COUNCIL HEARING.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS ALONG THE TIMELINE LEADING UP TO MARCH.

SO, AND THEN THE WEBSITE, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL BE USING THE WEBSITE QUITE A BIT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT THE OPTION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND SUBMIT COMMENTS OR JUST GET INFORMATION.

WE WILL ALSO BE POSTING THE DRAFT ON THE WEBSITE.

UM, WE DO HAVE THE CONVEO SOFTWARE, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO, UM, INTERACTIVELY ENTER COMMENTS ON THE DOCUMENTS AND THE INTERACTIVE PIECES THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN KIND OF HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

UM, THEY CAN POST THEIR COMMENTS, YOU CAN, YOU CAN REPLY TO THAT, YOU GET A STRING OF COMMENTS GOING.

UM, SO THAT WILL BE USED TO REVIEW THE DRAFT PLAN.

UM, SO ARE THERE QUESTIONS? SO ARE THERE SECTIONS WHERE YOU'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH, UH, CONSENSUS OR YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S DIFFERENT DIFFERING OPINIONS? SOME OF THESE ARE HOT TOPICS, ? YEAH, THERE ARE A FEW HOT TOPICS.

I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT IT HASN'T KIND OF COME TO THE FOREFRONT AS TO WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE.

UM, SOME OF THEM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WE WILL BE MAKING SOME CHANGES AND THAT WE HAVEN'T SHARED THAT WITH A WORK GROUP YET.

UM, BUT SOME OF THOSE ARE MORE, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA SAY TECHNICAL.

UM, AND THOSE ARE OFTEN MORE DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE'LL, WE WILL DO OUR BEST 'CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER NOTIFICATION THING WE HAVE TO DO.

IF WE CHANGE, UM, A PROPERTY COLOR ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS ALL HAVE TO GET NOTIFIED ABOUT THAT.

SO, SO I THINK THAT ONE THAT WILL PROBABLY RAISE THE MOST QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PROPERTY OWNERS.

IT'LL PROBABLY MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM ACTUALLY.

AND TOURISM IS, TOURISM, YOU KNOW, IS ONE THAT'S BEEN VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

AND, AND I, I THINK THAT HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGING GIVES PEOPLE HOPE THAT WE WILL GET A BETTER HANDLE ON IT.

UM, BUT A LOT OF THE DETAILS WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE FOR, UM, THE TOURISM PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL DO I THINK A STRATEGIC PLAN AND SO THAT TYPE OF THING WOULD BE LISTED IN THE ACTION ITEMS. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE BRANDING THE COMMUNITY PLAN DOESN'T GET DOWN INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, IT'S JUST THE DESIRE FOR MORE THE SAME, LESS, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF BIG PICTURE.

SO THE, WHAT THE PLAN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF, UH, VISITOR MANAGEMENT, I GUESS IS ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

AND WE'VE EVEN SPLIT THAT APART WHERE WE'VE GOT A SECTION, UM, THAT WILL BE IN THE ENVIRONMENT SECTION THAT'S REALLY MORE ABOUT NATIONAL FOREST RECREATION, ACCESS TO THE FOREST, UM, AND THEN VISITOR MANAGEMENT IN THE CITY, WHICH HAS TO DO MORE PROBABLY WITH PARKING AND, AND ALL OF THOSE ISSUES, TRAFFIC, ET CETERA.

SO, SO TOURISM, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S, IT'S EVERY CATEGORY, UM, CIRCULATION TOO.

CROSSES OVER.

SOMETHING? QUESTION, QUESTIONS TO QUESTION? OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU'RE GOOD, HOLLY, YOU GOOD? OKAY.

MELISSA, DID YOU HAVE

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ON THIS SIDE, SO I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE HOUSING.

COMPONENTS.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT KIND OF INPUT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE PUBLIC.

I WAS AT, I DON'T KNOW, THREE, FOUR, HOW MANY, MAYBE FIVE DIFFERENT EVENTS, UH, AT THE LIBRARY AT THE ELKS CLUB.

AND I HAD A LOT, HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS, BUT WHAT ARE YOU HEARING AS FAR AS PEOPLE WILLING TO, UH, HAVE IT IN THEIR BACKYARD AS OPPOSED TO, NOT IN MY BACKYARD, AS OPPOSED TO ABOUT EXPAND DENSITY A LITTLE BIT? OR DO WE GO A SECOND, A THIRD STORY? WHAT KIND OF INPUT YOU'RE GETTING? SO THERE'S TWO, TWO THINGS, I GUESS TWO WAYS I WOULD ANSWER THAT.

ONE IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OUR MEETINGS ARE EDUCATION AND INFORMATIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND, UM, EITHER WHAT DENSITY IS OR WHERE IT CAN OR CANNOT OCCUR.

UH, AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT IS THAT WHEN WE DO EXPLAIN IT AND WE TALK ABOUT WHERE IT COULD GO, FOR EXAMPLE, A THREE STORY BUILDING AND WE EXPLAIN WHERE THAT MIGHT BE LIKE OVER NEXT TO CITY HALL OR YOU KNOW, BEHIND ONE OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS.

UM, WHEN YOU START EXPLAINING THAT, THEN IT'S BEEN SURPRISING AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH THAT.

SO I THINK THE GIST OF IT IS THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT, UH, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S AT.

AND YEAH.

AND OF COURSE WE ALWAYS HAVE TO EMPHASIZE, AND THIS IS PART OF THAT INFORMATIVE THING, IS WE AREN'T PROPOSING ANY OF THAT IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO, SO I REMEMBER THERE WAS ONE DISCUSSION, I, I FORGET WHICH ONE OF THE MEETINGS I WAS AT, BUT SOMEBODY HAD PROPOSED EITHER BUYING OR DOING SOMETHING WITH, UH, THE BAER CENTER AND PUTTING, DO YOU REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION? I THINK YOU WERE THERE, THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT A SECOND STORY ON TOP OF THE BASHER CENTER FOR HOUSING.

I MEAN, IT, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR SALE FOR ONE AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS I'M SURE THE COUNCIL'S AWARE OF, BUT IS THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING WERE DOING? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT WAS A VERY STRONG TOPIC, YOU KNOW, OF DISCUSSION WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO, UH, THE COMMITTEE PLAN GROUP AND THE PARTICIPANTS ALL HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS AN EXAMPLE OF REDEVELOPMENT, KIND OF, THAT'S A REALLY BIG WHAT IF SCENARIO, RIGHT? OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN.

UM, BUT NO, THERE'S, IT'S NOT A TARGET FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT REDEVELOPING OR SELLING IT.

UM, SO THERE, THERE AREN'T ANY SPECIFIC PARCELS, UM, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER THAN THE CULTURAL PARK.

SO, AND THE ACTION ITEM IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS GOING TO BE THAT WE'RE DOING A, A MASTER PLAN FOR THE CULTURAL PARK.

I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG STEP.

SO VERY GOOD.

UH, JESSICA, FOLLOWING UP ON HOUSING, YOU SAID THAT YOU'VE ASSURED PEOPLE THAT NOTHING MULTI-FAMILY WOULD OCCUR IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES, AND THOSE ARE IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO HOW THOSE TWO THINGS ARE KIND OF INCONSISTENT.

SO DOES THE PLAN GOING TO ADDRESS SOMETHING AT THAT LEVEL? THAT, THAT'S VERY GOOD POINT.

THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

I WAS THINKING IN MY HEAD ON THE OTHER QUESTION MORE ABOUT COMPLEX.

NO, I KNOW MULTIPLE, I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, , MULTI-STORY, BUT I, I MEAN THIS OTHER DENSE IS A DENSITY INCREASE.

AND I HEARD AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS I HEARD SECONDHAND, SO I CAN'T GUARANTEE THIS, THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCITED AND SUPPORTIVE BY THE IDEA AND THAT US OLD FOLKS DON'T WANT IT.

AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THAT KIND OF, OF CONFLICT WITH, WITH A LOT OF MORE SPECIFIC ISSUES.

SO HOW, IN TERMS OF, IS THE PLANT GOING TO PRECLUDE DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS? I'LL SAY THAT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE NOT DECIDED IF THAT WILL GO INTO THE PLAN.

UH, IT COULD BE AN OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

BUT WHAT,

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UM, AND IT, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THERE.

I'M NOT SURE.

I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING.

THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS A CERTAIN KIND OF DOCUMENT THAT OPERATES AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.

AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE, BECAUSE I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE FUTURE.

AND YOU'VE JUST TOLD ME MAYBE IT WILL, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT MEANS AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE I, I THINK THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS, IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO IN TERMS OF, IS, IS THE, IS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN GOING TO BE SUCH THAT IT MIGHT MAKE THAT NOT A POSSIBILITY? NO.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING, THE CHANGES WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, LITTLE TO NONE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

I'M SORRY, DID WHAT WE, WE WEREN'T PLANNING TO REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONVERT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOW CALLED PLANNED AREAS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH THAT OVER TO EITHER A MIXED USE OR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

I MEAN ALL OF THAT'S NICE, BUT I MEAN, I JUST REALLY AM ASKING IT.

IT'S A PRETTY SIM FOR ME.

IT'S SIMPLE.

SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD ABOUT IT MORE SIMPLY IT, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.

I MEAN I WANNA, I WANNA KNOW IF IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, MY SUBDIVISION, WHETHER SOMEONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD A DUPLEX OR NOT.

UM, GIVEN ALL THE STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUT YES.

KURT MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO HELP ASSIST THAT.

SO CURRENTLY IF YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION, THEN THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, UH, APPROVED SUBDIVISION AND NO MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE ALLOWED.

AND THAT'S CONTROLLED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE? OH NO, OURS IS, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

IF YOU'RE NOT IN AN APPROVED SUBDIVISION AND IT'S JUST ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AGAIN, MULTIFAMILY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BOTH BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE PLANNING DOCUMENT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO THEY WOULD BOTH PREVENT THAT IN ORDER TO CHANGE THAT PART OF THE APPROVAL WOULD BE CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND SO THAT COULD BE DONE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS, UM, FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT THERE'D STILL BE THE ADDITIONAL HURDLE OF NEEDING, UH, A REZONE TO MULTIFAMILY IN ORDER TO GO FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY, WHICH INCLUDES A DUPLEX.

SO CUR IS IT POSSIBLE THOUGH, THROUGH COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS AND GOING THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE WHAT IS CONSTITUTED AS SINGLE FAMILY ZONING? SO SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE SAID IN A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD THESE THINGS.

YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS WE CON ARE CONSTITUTED AS AS SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE STATE MAY, MAY CHANGE THAT FOR US.

UH, BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL OPTIONS TO REDEFINE WHAT WE MEAN.

UM, AS A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

WHAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN COULD POTENTIALLY DO IS SAY, WE KNOW DIVERSIFICATION OF HOUSING IS, IS IMPORTANT.

WE KNOW THE AFFORDABILITY AND AVAILABILITY OF INVENTORY IS DIFFICULT.

WE'RE 85% SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

NOW HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE TOOLS FOR FUTURE THAT WOULD BE THEN STUDIED FURTHER TO, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN, AN APPETITE FOR THAT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SORT OF OPENING THE DOOR IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN HOUSING CHAPTER COULD BE A STARTING POINT FOR THAT.

YES, COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

AS LONG AS A COMMUNITY PLAN ISN'T MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT I WANNA DO.

THANK YOU, .

ARE WE HERE? WE KNOW HOW HARD YOU'RE WORKING, .

MOVING ALONG.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? OKAY.

THIS IS SLATED FOR DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ONLY.

SO CYNTHIA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE SEEING YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU, CYNTHIA, FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT IN.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD BEEN A SINGLE PERSON ON THIS AT TIMES AND IT'S THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT.

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OKAY, ITEM G, UH, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A FUTURE MEETING, AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL? WOW.

WE HAVE LIKE THREE HOURS MORE TO GO.

I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW , PETE WANTS TO GET TO A SOCCER GAME.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

UH, HEARING NOTHING, UH, THERE WAS NO MEETING TOMORROW, OF COURSE.

AND, UH,

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