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[1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE]
EVENING EVERYONE, EVERYONE.UH, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023.
UH, PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, MY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, AND NOW A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
[2. ROLL CALL/MOMENT OF ART]
MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR JALO.AND WE WILL START OFF WITH, UH, ITEM TWO, OUR MOMENT OF ART.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNSELORS.
NOVEMBER IS NATIONAL NOVEL WRITING MONTH, AND FOR TWO YEARS I'VE WANTED TO INVITE THIS PERSON AND I AM REALLY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE ROBERT LEWIS DE MAYO.
HE IS A NATIVE HOLLIS, NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT HAS LIVED MANY CORNERS OF THE PLANET.
HE TRAVELED TO NEARLY A HUNDRED COUNTRIES BEFORE HE WAS 30, CROSSING MANY OF THEM OVER LAND.
HE TOOK UP WRITING AT THE AGE OF 20 WHEN HE LEFT HIS JOB AS A BIOMEDICAL ENGINEER TO EXPLORE THE WORLD.
HIS EXTENSIVE JOURNALING DURING HIS TRAVELS INSPIRED FIVE OF HIS NOVELS AND FAR-REACHING WORK FOR THE TRAVEL SECTION OF THE TELEGRAPH OUT OF NASHUA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, AS WELL AS THE HOLLIST TIMES.
HE IS A MEMBER OF THE EXPLORERS CLUB AND A CHAIR OF ITS SOUTHWEST CHAPTER.
HIS UNDYING HUNGER FOR EXPLORATION LED TO A JOB MARKETING FOR EO STUDY TOURS, A COMPANY THAT SERVES AS A TRAVEL OFFICE FOR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND OFFERS DIVES TO THE TITANIC AND BISMARCK, ANTARCTIC VOYAGES, AFRICAN SAFARIS, AND ARCHEOLOGICAL TOURS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
FOR SEVERAL YEARS FOLLOWING THAT ROLE, ROBERT WORKED AS A TOUR GUIDE IN ALASKA AND THE YUKON DURING THE SUMMER AND AS A JEEP GUIDE IN ARIZONA.
DURING THE WINTER, HE WAS MADE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE JEEP TOUR COMPANY, BUT EVENTUALLY LEFT THE GUIDING WORLD TO WRITE FULL-TIME.
ROBERT IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF EIGHT NOVELS THAT HAVE COLLECTIVELY WON 10 NATIONAL AWARDS.
HIS PRINTED BOOKS AND EBOOKS ARE AVAILABLE ON AMAZON, KDP AND INGRAM.
IN ADDITION, SEVERAL OF HIS STORIES ARE AVAILABLE AS AUDIOBOOKS ON ACX.
ROBERT AND HIS FAMILY HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF SEDONA FOR 20 YEARS NOW.
ALONGSIDE HIS WIFE DIANA, THEY HAVE RAISED THREE DAUGHTERS AND RUN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS UPTOWN MASSAGE FOR 18 YEARS.
HE'S WRITTEN A BOOK THAT IS REALLY INTERESTING AND I THINK YOU'LL ALL BE ENGAGED IN THIS.
IT'S ABOUT A STORY THAT TOOK PLACE IN UPTOWN, UM, IN THE OAK CREEK CANYON.
AND, UM, HE'S GOT A NARRATIVE SLIDESHOW THAT HE'S GONNA PRESENT.
PLEASE WELCOME ROBERT DE WANT TO MAXIMIZE IT.
WHEN WE FIRST MOVED TO THIS AREA, WE RENTED A HOUSE ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM MONZO AS WELL.
THERE WAS A CHANNEL OF WATER THAT FLOWED FROM THE WELL, AND IF YOU FOLLOWED IT UPSTREAM, YOU WOULD EVENTUALLY REACH THE SINKHOLE.
I VISITED THE WELL OFTEN BACK THEN USING THE SECRET ENTRANCE, INCLUDING TIMES WHEN IT WAS CLOSED AND MY ONLY COMPANION WAS A FULL MOON LINGERING OVER THE RIM.
WHEN I SAT THERE ALONE, I SOMETIMES HEARD WHISPERS IN THOSE DAYS, I CHASED EVERY LEGEND OF MYTH I ENCOUNTERED AND MANY INVOLVED THAT SINKHOLE.
BUT THERE WERE ALSO STORIES INVOLVING SEDONA OAK CREEK AND IT'S WEST FORK, AS WELL AS JEROME COTTONWOOD AND PAGE SPRINGS.
MANY PLACES WITH VIBRANT LIVES COME AND GONE, BUT
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ALL OF THEM LINKED BY GEOGRAPHY.SO I DECIDED TO HAVE MY STORY ENCOMPASS IT ALL AND USE SOME OF THOSE LEGENDS TO HINT OR MAYBE EXPLAIN WHY THINGS TURNED OUT THE WAY THEY DID.
I BELIEVE THIS NOVEL TO BE A TESTAMENT TO THE DIVERSE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THIS AREA.
IT WAS BROKEN INTO FOUR BOOKS THAT EACH OCCUR IN THE SAME PLACES JUST AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
THE BOOKS EACH HAVE THREE ACTS MAKING 12 IN TOTAL.
I WANTED TO GIVE THE READERS A FEEL FOR SEDONA AND OAK CREEK CANYON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO I MADE EACH ACT FALL IN THE NEXT MONTH.
REGARDLESS OF HOW THE YEARS FLOWED, I HAD MO LIMITED MOBILITY DURING THE TWO YEARS THAT IT TOOK TO WRITE AND EDIT THIS STORY.
I COULD MAKE IT NO MORE THAN A HALF MILE INTO THE WOODS BEFORE I HAD TO SIT, BUT I WOULD STAY LIKE THAT FOR AN HOUR AND TRY TO DISCERN JUST WHAT WAS UNIQUE ABOUT THAT MONTH.
I FEEL THIS NOVEL CONTAINS MY YEARNING TO GET DEEPER INTO THE HIGH DESERT, TO WHAT LAY JUST AROUND THE NEXT BEND.
AND IT'S A FEELING THAT I SHARE IN YOU WITH MANY OF OUR VISITORS.
OAK CREEK CANYON'S WEST FORK CUTS THROUGH THE PLATEAU FOR NEARLY 14 MILES.
MOST TOURISTS NEVER GO BEYOND THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR MILES, BUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING THIS PASSAGEWAY FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
MANY WHO HIKE THROUGH THE DEEPER PASSAGES OF THE WESTPORT CLAIM, THEY FEEL THE PRESENCE OF PEOPLE AROUND THEM.
I USED A HALF DOZEN LOCAL ARTISTS FOR THE ARTWORK FEATURED IN THIS NOVEL CARTOONIST JEN BERG CREATED IMAGES TO START EACH CHAPTER AND FORMER DISNEY ARTIST TOM FISH HELPED WITH THE DRAWING OF THE BOX CANYON.
IN ASSORTED MAPS PRESENTATION, ANDREW HOLMAN CREATED THE COVER FROM AN ACTUAL PHOTO TAKEN OF MY DAUGHTER SRIN AS SHE STOOD IN OAK CREEK IN FRONT OF CATHEDRAL ROCK.
JUST AFTER SUNSET, ALLMAN TOOK A LONG EXPOSURE IMAGE WHILE HE WAVED A LIGHT SABER IN A CIRCLE BEHIND SRIN.
IF YOU LIVED IN THIS AREA LONG ENOUGH, YOU LEARNED THERE REALLY ARE TWO MAIN LEGENDS.
THE LOST COCONINO MINE AND THE EVA PA APACHE CREATION MET AND EACH OF THEM WAS IN THE SAME AREA SOMEWHERE TO THE WEST OF OAK CREEK CANYON AND BEFORE SAY SYCAMORE CANYON, THEY WERE EACH LOCATED IN A BOX CANYON WITH A HIDDEN ENTRANCE.
AND THE BACK OF THAT CANYON WAS A CAVE WHERE WATER ALWAYS DRIFTED.
TO ME, THAT SEEMS TO BE TOO MUCH OF A COINCIDENCE.
CAN YOU MAKE IT LOUDER? SO WHEN I CREATED THIS HISTORICAL NOVEL, THANK YOU.
I TRIED MY BEST TO PLACE THE MINE WHERE IT WOULD BE OR COULD BE.
WE DO KNOW A PROSPECTOR NAMED CLIFF HAYNES RAN THE MINE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, BUT NOT ITS LOCATION.
OBJECTION BEAR HOWARD IS THE ONLY PIONEER REPORTED TO HAVE FOUND THE MINE.
HE SAID THERE WAS AN OR CRUSHER THERE AND ALSO TWO JOURNALS WRITTEN IN SPANISH.
BEAR CLAIMED HE NEVER FOUND THE MIND AGAIN, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE OUTLINE OF HIS KINGDOM, YOU CAN SEE HE HAD THE PLACE TO HIMSELF ABOUT 10 SQUARE MILES WITH CLIFFS FOR FENCING.
SO WHO KNOWS WHAT HE WAS UP TO UP THERE FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE SPOILER.
I DECIDED TO HAVE A TUNNEL LEADING INTO THE CAVE, LINED WITH A LICHEN, EVENTUALLY CRUMBLES INTO A PSYCHEDELIC POWDER.
I DID THIS TO LEAVE ROOM FOR MAGIC.
IN THE PAST WHEN A SAGWAN WOMAN LEADS A MAYAN INTO THE CAVE, THEY MIGHT THINK THEY WERE EXPERIENCING SHABABA INTO THESE CONDITIONS, BUT A SPANIARD CONOR HELL BENT ON FAME AND FORTUNE WOULD EXPERIENCING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
HE MIGHT THINK HE WAS BEWITCHED, AND EVEN THOUGH AN ARCHEOLOGIST IN THE NINETIES MIGHT RECOGNIZE THE DRUG, IT DOESN'T MEAN HE MIGHT NOT GET ACCIDENTALLY DOSED.
THE WOMEN IN THIS BOOK FARED FAR BETTER THAN THE MEN, AT LEAST MOST OF THEM.
I JUST SET THE STAGE AND LET EVERYONE PLAY, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
MAYBE THEY JUST HAD BETTER GOALS.
IN THE END, THE SIRENS OF VOTE CREEK WON FOUR AWARDS AND ONE WAS FOR FEMALE EMPOWERMENT.
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IN THE THIRD BOOK SHOW UP WHEN AND HOW THEY DID AND LEAVE OR DIE IN A WAY THAT'S HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.IT'S JUST THE DETAILS THAT ARE DIFFERENT IN MY STORY.
SOME LIKE JJ THOMPSON HAVE HAUNTING TALES THAT TOOK LITTLE EFFORT TO SHAPE INTO A STORY.
THOMPSON WAS A PRISONER DURING THE CIVIL WAR AND CARRIED THAT BURDEN THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW HE FELT WHEN HE SHOWED UP AT INDIAN GARDENS AND SAW THE APACHES TIED AND BOUND THERE.
THE SOLDIERS HE ARRIVED WITH ESCORTED THEM AWAY AND HE STOOD THERE WATCHING THOMPSON SAID HE FELT THEIR PRESENCE AS HE WALKED THROUGH THEIR CORNFIELDS, GLANCING AT THEIR BARE FOOTPRINTS IN THE SOFTER OF THE LEMON CREEK.
IN THIS PHOTO, HE STANDS OVER THE GRAVE OF BRIDGET WILSON AFTER HE WAS KILLED BY ONE OF THE LAST CRUISERS IN THE AREA.
BOY, I WISH I COULD HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES TALKING TO OLD BEAR HOWARD.
I BET HE'D SET ME STRAIGHT ON EVERYTHING.
BEAR HAD A HOUSE AT THE MOUTH OF WESTPORT AND A FEW YEARS AGO AFTER A FIRE UP THE CANYON, THEY DISCOVERED ANOTHER CABIN REPUTED TO BE HIS ON THE PLATEAU LOOKING DEEP INTO WESTPORT.
IT WAS ALSO A SMALL GATE RAILROAD TRACTOR.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HE WAS USING THEM FOR, BUT HE HAD MOTIVATION BECAUSE HE ALSO CREATED THE AB YOUNG TRAIL THAT SENDS UP FROM THE PLATEAU BY THE JUNIOR FIND.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HE WAS UP TO, BUT I BET YOU'D GET A CHUCKLE OUT OF MINE.
SORRY, WE HAD A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THE SOUND.
THAT WAS A FIRST SAY WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE.
UH, IT'S AVAILABLE AT, UM, 101 OMELETS, SO A COFFEE POT AND UP IN THE CANYON AT, UM, GARLANDS OR INDIAN GARDENS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY EVER READ ANYTHING LIKE JAMES MITCH OR THAT'S THE KIND OF BOOK THIS IS.
IT'S MOST DEFINITELY FICTION, BUT I TRY TO TO MIX THE MYTHOLOGY WITH THE, THE HISTORY AS BEST I COULD.
OKAY, JOE, ARE YOU READY? YEAH.
[3. CONSENT ITEMS]
ITEMS. WE HAVE, UH, A THROUGH FI MOVE TO ACCEPT, UH, TO APPROVE ITEMS THREE A THROUGH F.OKAY, LET ME JUST PREFACE THAT, BUT OKAY.
THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE PEOPLE, THE, UH, PUBLIC RIGHT, I RIGHT, YEAH.
THE PUBLIC STAFF AND THE COUNCIL CAN PULL ANY PARTICULAR ITEM THAT THEY SEE IS NECESSARY TO DISCUSS.
AND DOES ANYBODY WISH TO PULL? OKAY, I SECOND.
[4. APPOINTMENTS]
THIS IS NEXT.ITEM FOUR IS KIND OF EXCITING.
UH, ITEM FOUR IS THE APPOINTMENTS AB 29 97 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT REAPPOINTMENT OF A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER.
SO WE DO, WE HAVE OUR TWO COMMISSIONERS HERE.
THAT'S GONNA BE PRESENTED BY SOMEBODY.
ANYBODY AS FAR AS OTHER THAN, OKAY.
SO DO YOU WANT A MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION FIRST? WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS GOING TO GIVE, UH, A STAFF PRESENTATION OF ALL.
SO CAN I HAVE ANY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE COMMISSIONERS FROM THE DAYS? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
I JUST WANNA THANK ALL THE APPLICANTS WHO APPLIED AND THE PROCESS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THESE APPOINTMENTS.
AND I WANNA THANK, UH, JOE MARTIN, WHO'S, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
I'M LOSING MY VOICE TODAY ALREADY, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT ENDEAVOR.
IT'S A GREAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE, THE CITY I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING, AS WAS MANY OF OUR, UH, COUNSELORS.
IT'S A GREAT WAY TO START WITH CITY GOVERNMENT AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION FIRST PLEASE? I MOVE TO REAPPOINT COLLEGE GSKI AND APPOINT JOE MARTIN TO SEATS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TERMS THAT WILL BEGIN ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2023 AND END OCTOBER 31ST, 2026 OR UNTIL A SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED, WHICHEVER IS LATER.
NOW I FOUND THE PROPER PAGE THAT I WAS MISSING AND I FELT LIKE I WAS LOST SOMEWHERE, SO, OKAY.
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SAY AYE.ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED NOTE, JOE, YOU ARE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
COLLEAGUE KOSKI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR APPLYING AND PARTICIPATING.
NOW YOU REMEMBER YOU'RE LOCKED IN.
NOW YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR MIND.
UH, VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO YES.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE REALLY HAD EXCELLENT APPLICANTS.
IT WAS VERY HARD TO MAKE A DECISION AND I HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED BEFORE WILL CONSIDER REAPPLYING IN THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS IN THE DAYS? OKAY.
[5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER]
FIVE.SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MYSELF, COUNSELORS, OR THE CITY MANAGER.
VICE MAYOR, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE LONGSTANDING TRADITION OF PARKS AND REC.
AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CHILDREN IN THIS NECK OF THE WOODS, WE HAD 1,244 KIDS AT UPTOWN TRICK OR TREAT, UH, WOW.
AND, UH, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND THEN FOLLOWED THAT ON NOVEMBER 4TH WAS THE FOOD TRUCK, THE FABULOUS FOOD TRUCK, UH, FESTIVAL.
AND THERE WERE ABOUT 2,600 PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THAT EVENT.
UH, REGISTRATION IS STILL OPEN FOR FIRST TO SIXTH GRADER, EIGHTH GRADERS FOR OUR YOUTH BASKETBALL LEAGUE, NEWLY EXPANDING THIS YEAR, ADDING SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADERS CHRISTMAS LIGHT DECORATIONS AND PARKS AND REC.
WE'LL BE SETTING UP CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY DECOR THROUGHOUT WEST SEDONA AND UPTOWN THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK.
WILL BE ON DECEMBER 2ND AT THE SEDONA HUB.
KAREN, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY, THANK YOU.
THIS IS A TIME THAT THE PUBLIC, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT OUR MATTER IS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, UH, PURSUANT TO ARS 35 DASH 4 31 0.01 H ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY, UH, CRITICISM OF SCHEDULING, UH, THE MATTER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, AND A DECISION AT A LATER DATE.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, CARDS? NO, MA'AM.
THIS IS ITEM SEVEN, PROCLAMATION, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARD.
WE HAVE, DID YOU HAVE A, I'M SORRY.
WHAT'S THAT, JESSICA? I'M WONDERING, I SEE SOME CONCERTATION CONS.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, STEVE? ITEM EIGHT B NOT FOR PUBLIC FORUM THAT I HAVE.
[7.a. Citizen’s Academy participants, certificate presentation.]
THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, THIS IS A, UH, A LOT OF FUN QUESTIONS.STEVE, CAN YOU JUST KEEP YOUR VOICE DOWN PLEASE? OKAY.
SO I'M GONNA TRY OUT THIS HANDY DANDY PORTABLE MIC, SEE IF IT WORKS.
SO I WANNA CONGRATULATE, UH, THE 2023 CITIZENS ACADEMY PARTICIPANTS.
ON BEHALF OF THE SEDONA CITY COUNCIL, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, UH, TO LEARNING THE PLANNING AND OUR PROCESSES OF OUR CITY.
OUR HOPE IS THAT YOU TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU LEARNED AT THESE PAST NINE WEEKS AND BECOME ACTIVE IN A WORK GROUP, BOARD OR COMMISSION.
I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT TWO OF OUR ASSISTANTS ACADEMY PARTICIPANTS WERE QUICKLY INSPIRED TO GET MORE INVOLVED.
THANK YOU TO ATHENA JOHNSON AND DAVID PRICE, UH, WHO HAD BOTH APPLIED FOR A NEW TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD AND BECAME, UH, BOTH, UH, AND BECAUSE BOTH WERE SO IMPRESSED BY THE COUNCIL OR TO THE COUNCIL, THEY WERE BOTH APPOINTED TO THIS NEW BOARD.
AND DAVID PRICE WAS CHOSEN TO BE THE BOARD CHAIR.
THAT'S REALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
AND I DID SIT IN ON A FEW OF THE SESSIONS AND FELT GRATEFUL FOR SUCH INQUISITIVE AND RESPECTFUL RESIDENTS.
IT WAS REALLY A FUN TIME, AT LEAST FOR ME TO SIT ON THE OUTSIDE WATCHING YOU GUYS ALL DO WHAT YOU DID
SO, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GETTING INVOLVED IN EDUCATED.
PLEASE PASS ON TIDBITS OF WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED IN THE ACADEMY, UH, TO YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO HOPEFULLY NEXT
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YEAR WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER GREAT GROUP.WE HAVE SOME, UH, CERTIFICATES.
I GOTTA STAY AWAY FROM THE OTHER MICS.
KAREN QUICKEN, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND WE'LL MAKE THE PRESENTATION? YOU CAN COME OVER HERE, SHARE.
SHE LIKES TO PUBLIC SPEAK AS MUCH AS I DO.
THANK YOU MAYOR JELLO
I AM THE ASSISTANT TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THESE WORDS ON BEHALF OF KEEGAN CROT, OUR SPECIAL IN INITIATIVES COORDINATOR WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY, I'M SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE FACILITATED AND MODERATED THE 2023 CITIZENS ACADEMY.
I'M TRULY AMAZED BY OUR 19 RESIDENTS AND OUR FOUR STAFF PARTICIPANTS.
THEIR DEDICATION, THIRST FOR KNOWLEDGE, AND QUEST FOR MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTION HAS BEEN BOTH REFRESHING AND VALUABLE.
THIS GROUP IS KIND, INSPIRED, RESPECTFUL, PATIENT, AND MOTIVATED TO GET INVOLVED, GET FAMILIAR WITH THESE SPACES, AS I'M SURE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, SEVERAL PARTICIPANTS WILL BE PART OF A WORK GROUP, BOARD, OR COMMISSION DIRECTLY AFTER THE CITIZENS ACADEMY PARTICIPANTS RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATES.
I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN ME FOR SOME SWEET TREATS IN THE COURTYARD.
TO CELEBRATE, I'M NOW GOING TO CALL UP EACH PARTICIPANT TO STAND BELOW THE DEUS.
PLEASE STAY THERE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY MAYOR JABO.
RECEIVE YOUR CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND GET A GROUP PHOTO.
I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE ANYONE'S NAME.
OKAY, SO FIRST WE'RE GONNA HAVE KELLY PISCOPO.
PATRICIA STRA NICK, EVERYONE MIGHT NOT BE HERE.
CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR 2023 CITIZENS ACADEMY.
SHOULD WE STAND UP AND PEEK OVER YOUR SHOULDERS? YEAH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND.
SHOULD WE STAND UP? STANDING BEHIND LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDERS? YES.
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BACK THERE.BRING, CAN I JUST SAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT A TERRIFIC PROGRAM THIS IS AND HOW GREAT IT IS THAT PEOPLE SIGN UP AND COME AND, AND LEARN ABOUT THE CITY AND REALLY HAVE, HAVE INVESTED IN THE CITY AND IN, IN KNOWING ABOUT IT AND BEING PART OF IT.
IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM AND YOU GUYS ARE TO BE COMMENDED.
AND I THINK AFTER THE PROGRAM, YOU'LL ALL AGREE THAT SEDONA HAS THE MOST WONDERFUL STAFF IN THE WORLD.
[8.a. Reports regarding Council assignments.]
EIGHT A.THE REPORT REGARDING COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.
JOE, YOU WANNA START WITH THE VIDEO? SURE.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL VIDEO FOR THOSE WHO ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY CONCERNED.
IT'S A VIDEO THAT I PARTICIPATED IN WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, UH, BIG PARK WATER COMPANY, UH, THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE.
AND I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYBODY.
BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED YOUTUBE LATELY, I SEEM TO BE POPPING UP AND I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS GONNA BE VERY PREVALENT, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE SO.
BUT I THOUGHT E EVERYBODY WOULD WANNA SEE THE VIDEO.
WE ARE LUCKY TO BE SURROUNDED BY A WEALTH OF NATURAL WONDERS AND BEAUTY.
AS A MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, I SEE THE IMMENSE PRIDE THAT EACH OF YOU TAKE IN BEING PART OF THIS VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
WE'RE NOT JUST RESIDENTS, WE'RE THE STEWARDS OF THE LAND, WHICH IS WHY WE MUST UNITE TO PROTECT OUR WATER.
JUST AS RAINDROPS JOIN TOGETHER TO CREATE SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY.
OUR COLLECTIVE ACTIONS HOLD INCREDIBLE POWER.
EVERY THOUGHTFUL CHOICE WE MAKE IN CONSERVING WATER WILL SET OFF A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT WILL MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT THAT RESONATES NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE.
HELLO, I'M DONNA MICHAELS AND I'M A YAVAPAI COUNTY SUPERVISOR FOR DISTRICT THREE.
AS THE YAVAPAI COUNTY SUPERVISOR, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT WE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA AND THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.
I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW CRITICAL WATER IS TO OUR REGION AND THE IMPACTS CONSERVATION CAN MAKE ON OUR FUTURE.
EACH SMALL EFFORT TO USE WATER WISELY CONTRIBUTES TO A BRIGHTER, MORE SUSTAINABLE TOMORROW FOR THE ENTIRE REGION.
IT'S OUR CHANCE TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF RESPONSIBLE GUARDIANSHIP.
WE HOPE YOU SEE THAT CONSERVATION IS AS CRITICAL AS WE DO.
I'M A DIVISION MANAGER FOR ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, COVERING THE AREAS OF SEDONA AND THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.
AT ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, WE'RE NOT JUST YOUR UTILITY, WE'RE PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE CARE ABOUT PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY WATER TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND WORKING TO PROTECT THIS RESOURCE.
TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA, THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK AND BIG PARK WATER COMPANY, WE ARE LAUNCHING RIPPLE EFFECT, A COMPREHENSIVE WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM.
OUR COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP IN THIS PROGRAM UNDERSCORES THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS INITIATIVE FOR OUR REGION AND HOW CRITICAL SAVING WATER IS.
EVEN THE SMALLEST ACTIONS CAN HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT ON THIS PRECIOUS RESOURCE.
BIG PARK WATER COMPANY IS PROUD TO BE THE STEWARDS OF THE PRECIOUS WATER RESOURCES FOR MUCH OF THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE LAUNCH OF A WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM TO HELP RESIDENTS HAVE A CENTRALIZED PLACE TO FIND OUT HOW THEY CAN SAVE WATER.
IT IS A REALLY UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN MULTIPLE ENTITIES AND WE BELIEVE WE BRING A LOT OF GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE HOPE YOU FIND THIS PROGRAM AS A VALUABLE RESOURCE TO HELP YOU TAKE SMALL STEPS TO SAVE WATER AND COLLECTIVELY HAVE A LARGE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITIES.
LET'S TAKE PRIDE IN DOING OUR PART TO PROTECT THE WATERS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
I'M THE WATER CONSERVATION COORDINATOR FOR ARIZONA WATER COMPANY.
WE ARE SO EXCITED TO LAUNCH RIPPLE EFFECT, A DEMAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT'LL PROVIDE WATER CONSERVATION INFORMATION AND RESOURCES TO THE CITY OF SEDONA AND THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.
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PROGRAM IS A VERY UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP.IT BRINGS TOGETHER THE CITY OF SEDONA, THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK AND THEIR WATER UTILITIES, BIG PARK WATER COMPANY AND ARIZONA WATER COMPANY.
TOGETHER WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY CAN DO TO CONSERVE WATER, WHAT THE COMMUNITIES ARE DOING TO CONSERVE WATER, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WATER RESOURCES LOCALLY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE GONNA BE LAUNCHING A LANDING PAGE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LEARN ALL ABOUT THE PROGRAM, UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, LOOK AT FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND ACCESS VIDEOS LIKE THIS ONE.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE LAUNCHING A FACEBOOK PAGE WHERE YOU CAN GET MONTHLY TIPS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO TO CONSERVE WATER.
WE ARE SO EXCITED TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM FOR THESE COMMUNITIES AND WE WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT EVERY ACTION, SMALL OR LARGE, IN CONSERVING WATER WILL HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT ON WATER RESOURCES FOR THIS REGION, FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
IN THE SPIRIT OF SHARED RESPONSIBILITY, WE ASK YOU TO JOIN US IN THIS JOURNEY.
LET'S EMBRACE THE RIPPLE EFFECT, A MOVEMENT THAT STARTS WITH US, THAT REACHES BEYOND US FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL CALL SEDONA AND THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK HOME.
SO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR FUTURE, UH, VIDEOS, UH, PUBLISHED BY ARIZONA WATER AND BIG PARK WATER.
IT SHOULD BE, UH, I'M REALLY EXCITED.
SO, UH, ALRIGHT, THIS IS, UH, COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE FROM THEIR COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS? NOPE.
AND THEN I DO WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
SO A GROUP OF FOLKS WENT UP TO BANFF FOR THE FILM FESTIVAL AND FOR OUR SISTER CITIES PROGRAM.
AND, UH, WHAT WAS INTERESTING, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT WAS THAT THERE WAS A PROJECT, UH, WHERE THE CITY BOUGHT 40 ACRES OF LAND AND THEY CREATED A VILLAGE.
AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE FROM SEDONA WHO, WHO WERE ON THAT TRIP TOLD ME THAT WE SHOULD SEND A CONTINGENT OF PEOPLE UP TO CANMORE.
THIS WAS IN CANMORE, WHICH IS A NEIGHBOR OF BANFF BECAUSE IT WAS SO REMARKABLE WHAT THEY HAD DONE.
AND KAREN, I I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT OF THEY SAID, THIS BELONGS IN SEDONA.
IT WAS SO FANTASTIC, YOU KNOW, LAND THAT HAD BEEN GIFTED TO THEM, UH, AND THEY CREATED A CITY AROUND IT AND THEY JUST COULDN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.
TODAY I WAS AT A MEETING AND THAT'S ALL THEY COULD DO IS TALK ABOUT IT.
TWO PEOPLE WHO HAD GONE ON THE TRIP OF HOW THEY SAW SEDONA COULD BE JUST LIKE THAT.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PERHAPS YOU GO TO CANADA AND CHECK IT OUT IN OUR SPARE TIME.
UH, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, UH, EVERY QUARTER, WELL, LET ME BACKTRACK.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE FIVE MAYORS, UH, AND MANAGERS IN THE VERDE VALLEY, WE MEET TWICE A MONTH VIA ZOOM TO DISCUSS ISSUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THE FIVE CITIES AND TOWNS.
UH, LAST WEEK, UH, THERE WAS A, UM, QUARTERLY MEETING BETWEEN YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE VERDE VALLEY MAYORS AND MANAGERS.
AND I ATTENDED THAT MEETING AT THE HAVE IN THE PAST.
UH, SO THIS IS JUST A RECAP OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY DO CONCERN US.
UH, THEY KICKED OFF THEIR SPACE STUDY, UH, TO LOOK AT ALL THEIR BUILDING INVENTORY WITHIN THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY ARE ALL, UH, LOCATED, UH, IN GOOD LOCATIONS TO SERVE THEIR RESIDENTS APPROPRIATELY.
NONE OF THAT WOULD BE IN THE FIVE CITIES AND TOWNS WOULD ALL BE IN COUNTY AREAS.
THEY WILL BE DOING OUTREACH TO ALL FIVE CITIES AND TOWNS IN THE VERDE VALLEY.
THEY WILL BE LOOKING FOR CITIZEN, UH, I'M SORRY, CITY MANAGER INPUT AT AN UPCOMING CITY, UH, MAYOR AND MANAGERS MEETING, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
THEY ALSO HAVE A, UH, AND THIS IS A BIG BOLD ISSUE, THEY WANT TO HAVE A CENTRAL DISPATCH FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE POLICE AND FIRE DISTRICTS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE REGION.
UH, THEY DON'T KNOW IF, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT, UH, ONE FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUNTAINS OR ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.
SO THEY'RE STILL DOING SOME, UH, OUTREACH.
UH, THEY HAVE ANOTHER CONSULTANT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS AND, UH, THEY WILL BE DOING OUTREACH TO OUR POLICE CHIEF, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
THEIR BIG PUSH IS HIGH TECH COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE, UH, THAT, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
I DON'T WANNA GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT, UH, THE, UH, THE
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DIFFERENT TERRAIN HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY AND IN SEDONA CAN BE CHALLENGING.SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UH, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU MAY HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEWSPAPER IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO, UH, AND WHEN I HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT IT, I WILL BE SURE TO POST IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, AS I CAN AND NOTIFY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AS WELL.
UH, THE COUNTY'S LOOKING TO DO A ROUNDABOUT AT CORN VILLE ROAD AND SAWMILL PARK.
ANDY, WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT? YEAH, THEY LOOKING TO DO THAT.
THEY SEE THE NEED, I DON'T KNOW THE NEED, UH, CORN VILLE ROAD FOR THOSE WHO'VE DRIVEN ON VILLE ROAD.
THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION ON COVILLE ROAD AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, UM, RUMBLE STRIPS JUST BEFORE, UH, THE, UH, SWITCHBACKS IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN, UH, TO, UH, COVILLE.
AND LET'S SEE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DOMINGUEZ MOUNTAINS, THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT AGGREGATE AND ROCK PRODUCT MINING IN THE COUNTY.
IT'S SPECIFIC TO CHINO VALLEY, PRESCOTT, DEWEY BECAUSE EVIDENTLY IN ARIZONA THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF AGGREGATE, WHICH YOU NEED TO BUILD, UH, MOST CONSTRUCTION.
CLARKDALE IS LOOKING TO BUILD 270 HOUSING UNITS, THAT'S MIXED USE.
AND IN COTTONWOOD THERE IS A SLAG PILE THAT THEY HAVE A PERMIT WITH ADEQ TO LOOK AT REMOVING THE SLAG PILE.
AND THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I SAW IT, I NEVER KNEW WHAT IT WAS, BUT ALL THE ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER.
SO, UH, THAT'S MY ONLY UPDATE FOR THIS.
THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT MEETING.
IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY INFORMATIVE.
OKAY, WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE THEN WE WILL GO TO LAST TIME ITEM B
[8.b. AB 3010 Discussion/possible action regarding an update on the build out of Ranger Station Park and approval of Linking Agreement for Purchase of Playground Equipment and Installation in the approximate amount of $478,300, subject to approval of the written contract by the City Attorney’s Office.]
DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE BUILD OUT OF RANGER, UH, STATION.PARK AND APPROVAL OF LINKING AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION IN THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF 478 UH THOUSAND $300, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF A WRITTEN CONTRACT, UH, BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND WHO'S GONNA BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT? THAT WILL BE ME.
YEAH, SANDY, LARRY, YOU GONNA ALL BE OKAY? YOU BEAT THE TABLE.
ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR HAVING US BACK AGAIN.
SO, UM, WE HAD COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO TALKING ABOUT THE RANGER STATION PLAYGROUND AS THE INITIAL PART.
SO JUST AS A RECAP, UM, I'M JOSH FRUIN, PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGER, UH, LARRY FARHAT, FACILITIES MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, SANDY PHILLIPS, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS,
SO JUST AS A START FOR THE RANGER STATION PARK NOW, IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER WORK AND A LOT'S GOING ON.
UM, THIS DRONE SHOT WAS TAKEN ON MONDAY AND IF YOU GO BY AND SEE IT EVEN TODAY, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE PROGRESS THAN WAS EVEN THERE.
SO EVEN JUST FROM THIS DRONE SHOT ON MONDAY, UM, WE HAVE LITTLE, THIS AREA WE HAVE THE GRASS SAW GETTING PUT IN.
WE HAVE TRENCHES BEING DUG AROUND THE CASCADING WATER DETENTION AREAS.
UM, THERE'S SOME CEMENT SIDEWALK PART THAT WILL BE THE PARKING LOT AREA GETTING INSTALLED OVER THERE.
THERE'S LOTS HAPPENING AND LOTS HAPPENING QUICKLY.
SITE OVERVIEW FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON, WE DO HAVE A RANGER STATION WORK GROUP WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING HEAVILY ON LIKE THE GAMES THAT CITIZENS WANNA SEE IN THE PARK, SUCH AS CORN HOLE, UM, VOLLEYBALL, THE HORSESHOES, BOCCE, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WE ARE FOCUSING ON THOSE THINGS, THE WORK GROUP'S ALSO DISCUSSING LIKE THE HISTORY WALK THAT WILL BE PART OF THE TRAIL AROUND THE PARK.
UM, DIFFERENT SIGNAGE PARTS THAT WE WANT TO CONNECT TO THE RANGER STATION.
FROM THAT, THE FOCUS OF THIS WILL BE JUST SOLELY ON THE PLAYGROUND AREA AND THE PLAY SCAPES.
SO WE ARE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THOSE BOCCE BALL HORSESHOES, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
THIS SECTION'S JUST FOCUSING HERE ON THE PLAYGROUND PORTION.
EXCUSE ME, JOSH, WHO'S ON THAT COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S VARIOUS CITY STAFF AND RESIDENTS.
UM, MYSELF, STEVE MERTIS WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE, THE STAFF SIDE OF IT.
UM, AL ELLO, IT'S ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT'S ON
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IT AND A FEW OTHERS AS WELL THAT ARE ALL PARTICIPATING IN THAT.JOSH, WHY YOU, YOU'VE STOPPED FOR ONE MOMENT.
THERE WAS CONCERN, I THINK THE COUNCIL RECEIVED, UH, AN EMAIL OR TWO ABOUT THE ADULT GAMES THAT YOU MENTIONED AND THERE WAS I THINK A MISCOMMUNICATION TO SOMEBODY.
AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT, UH, THOSE GAMES ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
AND WHEN WILL A DECISION BE MADE, UH, AS TO OH ARE THEY, WHAT HAS A DECISION ALREADY BEEN MADE? UM, REALLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONSIDERING KIND OF JUST THE LOCATION MORE SO WHERE IT FITS IN THE RANGER STATION PARK AS THE BEST THING.
AND THEN FINDING WE WILL MEET WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SENT THOSE EMAILS, UM, AND PHONE CALLS AS WELL THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH TOO.
UM, AND FINDING LIKE EXACTLY WHAT GAMES THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, WHERE CAN WE FIT 'EM AND DOING THAT FINAL PART.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE CLEARING OUT THE SPACE FOR IT WHERE THOSE WILL BE AND THEY WILL HAPPEN.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE ON COUNCIL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN FOR THOSE AS WELL.
SO, UH, I'D BE LOOK LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING UH, SOME KIND OF AN UPDATE.
ONTO TO WHAT YOU KNOW, UH, AND WHAT YOU'VE CHOSEN.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S HORSESHOES, UH, BOCCE, UH, CORNHOLE AND I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
WELL, JESSICA, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RATHER COUNCIL TO GET INTO MICROMANAGING, RIGHT? EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU SAY, RIGHT? BUT I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO GET IN MICROMANAGING EVERY SINGLE THING THAT'S PUT IN THERE AND I DON'T NEED REGULAR UPDATES AS TO MYSELF.
I DON'T NEED REGULAR UPDATES AS TO WHETHER WITH CORN, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND I MEAN, WHY CAN'T, THAT IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT IS A POLICY DECISION.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN OR DIRECT STAFF ABOUT OR HEAR FROM STAFF ABOUT, I MEAN I, I MEAN I FIND I REALLY DON'T, I GOT ONE EMAIL ABOUT ONE PERSON AND SUDDENLY IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE REGULAR UPDATES ABOUT.
I REALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION COUNCIL SHOULD BE GOING.
AND I THINK IT JUST KNOWING, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE REGULAR UPDATES, LET JUST LEMME KNOW WHAT THE DECISION IS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND MAY MAYBE THE OTHER COUNSELORS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
DEFINITELY SINCE WE DID GET UH, UH, AN EMAIL, I ACTUALLY HAD TWO, SO YOU HAVE TO, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, YOU KNOW, AN INTEREST.
AND WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, IN ANY WAY LOOK LIKE IT'S OVERLOOKING THE ADULT POPULATION.
LIKE THE PARK'S GONNA BE FOR EVERYONE AND WE'LL HAVE ASPECTS OF ALL OF THOSE, SO OF COURSE.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS OVERALL MAP, UM, SO WE HAVE THE PLAYGROUND AREA, WHICH IS SECTION SEVEN RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS THAT OVAL PLAYGROUND AREA.
WE HAVE THE GRASS AREA, THAT'S SECTION FIVE HERE, THE ORIGINAL RANGER STATION HOUSE ALONG WITH THE RANGER STATION BARN THAT ARE THE ONE AND TWO.
WHAT WE'VE STARTED CONSIDERING FOR THOSE PLAY GAMES THAT WE FEEL IS A FITTING AREA WOULD BE THIS SECTION HERE THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALKING TRACK THAT'LL GO AROUND AND THE CASCADING DETENTION WATER BASINS ARE HERE, WHICH WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THOSE SLIDES AND SOME OF THE OTHER FEATURES WE DISCUSSED TOO.
SO IT'S KIND OF A CONNECTION AREA WHERE IT'S SEPARATED FROM THE GRASS AND SEPARATED FROM THE KIDS'S PART, BUT STILL ALL CONNECTING AND FEELING IN THERE.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING RIGHT NOW AND THAT PART'S GETTING GRADED OUT FOR THAT USE TOO, FOR THOSE TYPE CORN HOLE HORSESHOE TYPE GAMES IS OUR KIND OF VISION THERE.
THIS IS SOME OF THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THAT WE HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER, BUT THE RANGER STATION PLAYGROUND, IT'S A 55 FOOT WIDE BY 70 FOOT LONG OVAL SECTION IN THERE.
OUR AIM WITH THIS WAS TO NOT DUPLICATE OTHER PLAYGROUNDS, NOT ADD ANOTHER PIECE OF PLASTIC IN THERE, BUT REALLY GET SOMETHING UNIQUE NATURAL THAT BLENDS IN THERE.
UM, SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST AN ART PIECE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND SEE RATHER THAN JUST ANOTHER PLAYGROUND.
SO WE ARE WORKING WITH KAN AND PLAYSPACE DESIGN TO DESIGN THAT PLAYGROUND.
WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS THE ROBINIA WOODS STRUCTURES THAT I'D SHOWN A FEW EXAMPLES OF AND WILL AGAIN, THAT THEY'VE DONE AND WHAT WE FEEL WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL FOR THIS PARK.
AND YES, SO THAT'LL MAKE THIS PLAYGROUND JUST IMMERSE 'EM IN THE HISTORY OF THE RANGER STATION WHILE IT'S IN A PIECE OF ART AND SOMETHING UNIQUE THERE.
SO THE WOOD THAT THEY USE FOR THIS TYPE OF PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES, ROBIA WOOD, ALSO KNOWN AS BLACK LOCUST WOOD.
SO IT IS KIND OF, IT'S ONE OF THE STRONGEST PIECES OF WOOD THAT'S AVAILABLE UNDERNEATH THE BARK.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL, WARM, SOFT, EASY TO PLAY ON.
IT'S, THEY'VE BUILT PLAYGROUNDS WITH THIS IN DUBAI, FLORIDA ACROSS HOT TERRAINS AS WELL AS IN COLD TERRAINS.
AND IT HAS ALWAYS SURVIVED AMAZINGLY WELL AND HELD UP.
IT'S VERY DURABLE, IT'S PRESERVATIVE FREE, UM, AND BLENDS RIGHT IN WITH NATURE.
SO OUR FIRST FEATURE, LEMME SWITCH TO HERE, STARTING A BIT SMALL, IS OUR RANGER STATION JEEP.
SO THIS RANGER STATION JEEP, IT'S GEARED FOR CHILDREN TWO TO FIVE YEARS OF
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AGE, HAS KIND OF THE LITTLE PLAY FEATURES, GEAR SHIFT, SIMPLE CRAWL THROUGH TUNNELS, THINGS LIKE THAT.UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON THIS AS WELL IS PUT A HISTORICAL SIGN PROBABLY SOMEWHERE HERE ON THE BACK OF THE JEEP IDENTIFYING IT, CONNECTING SOME HISTORY BACK TO THE RANGER STATION ALONG WITH THESE JEEPS AND MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, CONNECT IT TO THE RANGER STATION THROUGH THIS.
THE NEXT THING AS SOMETHING UNIQUE, SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS THIS COCOA WAVE ROPE PENDULUM SWING.
SO IT'S A UNIQUE, FUN AND ENGAGING SWING THAT I'M GONNA SHOW A LITTLE VIDEO CLIP IN A SECOND THAT SHOWS KIDS PLAYING ON IT BUT PROMOTES THE VA BALANCE TEAMWORK.
IT'S GREAT FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE IN ARIZONA.
THERE'S NOT ANOTHER SWING THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE IT, IT'S THE ROPE ITSELF, WHICH IS THE PART THEY'RE SWINGING ON IS MADE FROM COCONUT FIBERS.
SO KIND OF A SQUARE COCONUT ROPE THAT THEY'RE SWINGING ON THERE.
AND IN THIS, IF IT GOES TO THE NEXT ONE IN THIS LITTLE VIDEO CLIP, THEY SHOW IT ON A METAL FRAME.
OURS WOULD BE THIS WOODEN FRAME LIKE THE PICTURE BELOW, BUT IT IS THE SAME KIND OF FEATURE.
WHAT MAKES THE SWING SO UNIQUE IS THAT IT ENCOURAGES CHILDREN TO PLAY TOGETHER.
THEY PRACTICE SO MANY SKILLS WHILE ON THE SWING.
THEY CAN PRACTICE THEIR COLLABORATION SKILLS, THEIR LANGUAGE SKILLS AS THEY WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE SWING STARTED.
SOCIAL AND COGNITIVE SKILLS THEY GET TO LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER, RESPECT EACH OTHER'S SPACES AND COORDINATE A JOINT EFFORT TO GET THE SWING SWINGING.
THE FUN OF COOPERATING CREATES A GREAT HANGOUT SPOT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE OLDER CHILDREN.
MAKE MY YEAH, A FEEL SCHEDULE.
AND THE PHYSICAL CHALLENGES KEEPS DEVELOPING THE CHILDREN AS WELL WHEN PLAYING ON THIS.
ALRIGHT, IT'S A LITTLE HIGHLIGHT OF KIND OF WHAT THAT SWING'S ALL ABOUT.
AND UM, ANOTHER LITTLE ONE JUST SHOWING KIND OF THE FEATURES AND BUILDUP OF IT, THAT IT'S BUILDING THOSE KIDS' COORDINATIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE SITTING ON IT, STANDING ON IT, BUILDING THEIR BALANCE, SELF-CONFIDENCE, TEAMWORK, ALL THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST AS SOMETHING UNIQUE, SO KIND OF A FLASHBACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO FOR THOSE SIGNATURE FEATURES, WHAT WE WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR, THIS WAS ONE THAT CAME UP AS OUR INSPIRATION, WHICH WAS THE SOUTH CAROLINA ONE WHERE THEY BUILT THE SWAMP FOX, WHERE IT'S A LARGE WOODEN FOX KNOWN FOR THE SWAMP FOX IN MARION, SOUTH CAROLINA.
THIS WAS OUR INSPIRATION FOR HOW CAN WE TAKE THIS AND APPLY IT TO SOMETHING THAT FITS HERE IN SEDONA.
SOME OF THEIR OTHER FEATURES THAT THEY'D DONE, THE DINOSAUR, THE OWL AND THE FOX THERE AS WELL.
AND WE CAME UP WITH THE HALINA AS KIND OF BEING A SYMBOL OF ARIZONA IN GENERAL, BUT SEDONA.
AND HERE'S KIND OF OUR SIGNATURE PLAY FEATURE, WHICH IS THE MOTHER HALINA.
SO WE HAVE THE CLIMBING FEATURE WHERE YOU CLIMB UP THE SIDE, A HAMMOCK PLAY AREA CLIMBING INSIDE THE LADDER, POLE DOWN THE SIDE AND THE CUTE LITTLE BABY HALINA THAT GOES ALONG WITH MOMMY THERE AND SOME OTHER VIEWS OF IT.
SO ON THE SIDE, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF MOTHER HALINA WOULD HAVE THE SLIDE COMING DOWN.
IT, UM, AS THEY CLIMB UP HAS THIS PLATFORM IN HERE, SO IT'S ALMOST A LITTLE CAVE HIDEOUT AREA.
KIDS CAN CLIMB UP, CLIMB UP THE UM, FRONT OF IT, PLAY IN HERE, GO DOWN THE SLIDE, DOWN THE LADDER POLE IN THE HAMMOCK IN THE BACK.
SO SHOWING SOME OF THE FEATURES THERE AND THEN THE DIMENSIONS OF IT.
SO THE HALINA ITSELF IS 10 FOOT FOUR, BUT THE MAXIMUM FALL HEIGHT FOR KIDS INSIDE OF IT WOULD BE FOUR FOOT 11 BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE ON THIS FLAT FEATURE HERE.
SO IT'S 10 FOOT FOUR IN HEIGHT THERE.
AND THEN WITH OUR BABY HALINA WE HAVE THE ROCK WALL PLAY AREA CLIMBING UP THE BABY, THE LITTLE PLAY FEATURES AND A HALINA THERE AS WELL AND SHOWING ALL THE DIFFERENT FEATURES THERE WITH THE TALKING TUBES FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, THE CLIMBING NET, THE LADDER, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.
FOR THIS ONE IT IS FIVE FOOT ONE IN HEIGHT, SO THE MAXIMUM FALL HEIGHT FROM IT WOULD BE FOUR FOOT SEVEN.
THE FALL HEIGHT OF COURSE MATTERS FOR OUR RUBBER SURFACING PORTION AND HOW THICK THAT NEEDS TO BE AND THE TYPE OF QUALITY WE NEED THERE.
THEN FOR OUR NATURAL EMBANKMENTS, SO WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THAT WATER DETENTION AREA, WHICH WE HAVE THE CASCADING WATER AREA HERE IN THESE SECTIONS OR THE FLOOD AREA THERE IS HOW CAN WE UTILIZE THOSE AND MAKE THEM SOMETHING WHERE 360 DAYS A YEAR WHEN THERE'S NO WATER THAT THEY CAN STILL BE UTILIZED.
SO WE'D LIKE TO DO THESE CLIMBING FEATURES AND SHORT SLIDES DOWN INTO THEM.
SO WE'LL DO, WE'LL LEAVE A NATURAL TERRAIN SO IT WOULDN'T BE THIS RUBBER SURFACING IN THIS AREA, BUT A CLIMB ROPE WITH THE LOGS TO CLIMB UP LOGS AND THEN THESE SLIDES THAT TAKE 'EM DOWN TO THE BASIN, SO IT'S KIDS OVER AND OVER SLIDING DOWN, PULLING THEMSELVES BACK UP, CLIMBING BACK UP, GETTING TO PLAY IN THAT AREA, UTILIZING THOSE NAT NATURAL EMBANKMENTS.
UM, WE WILL HAVE TWO OF THOSE SLIDES
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AS OUR PLAN.SO THEY'D BE COMING OFF TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THAT WATER DETENTION AREA THERE AND AGAIN OVER IN THAT SECTION.
AND THEN FINALLY ONE OF OUR ADULT MOST REQUESTED THINGS IS AN ADULT FITNESS KIND OF AREA.
THIS IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR IN PLAYGROUNDS EVERYWHERE REALLY.
AS YOU KNOW, ADULTS ARE SITTING, TYPICALLY SITTING ON THE BENCH WATCHING THE KIDS PLAY.
THEY WANNA HAVE SOMETHING TO DO AS WELL.
SO THIS IS PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY HAVE A GYM IN THE OUTDOORS WHERE THEY CAN GO DO THIS OR THOSE EVEN WITHOUT KIDS, THEY CAN GO AROUND THE WALKING TRACK, GO TO THE GYM, HAVE A LITTLE WORKOUT OUTDOORS.
SO THIS FEATURE HERE, IT WOULD BE OVER, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR LOCATION IS PUTTING IT BETWEEN THE WATER RETENTION AREA AND THE GRASS THERE.
SO IT'S, WHETHER IT'S AROUND THE WALKING TRACK, THEY RUN A LAP AND WANNA WORK OUT ON THE GYM A LITTLE BIT OR WATCHING THE KIDS PLAY ON THE GRASS WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT PROVIDES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADULTS TO HAVE A LITTLE WORKOUT AREA THERE AS WELL.
AND THERE'S KIND OF THE LOCATION IDEA FOR THAT.
AND SO FOR THE TIMEFRAME OF THIS, IF ALL THE EQUIPMENT WE ORDER BY DECEMBER 1ST, ALL THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE BUILT AND SHIPPED AND ARRIVE HERE BY APRIL 1ST.
AND THEN THE INSTALLATION AND RUBBER SURFACING FROM THAT WILL TAKE THREE TO FOUR WEEKS FROM THE TIME OF ARRIVAL TO BUILD THE HELINA IS BUILD THE PLAY EQUIPMENT, INSTALL THAT RUBBER SURFACING, WHICH OUR TARGET DATE THEN WOULD BE FOR THE GRAND OPENING FOR THE PLAYGROUND ADULT FITNESS AREA, RUBBER SURFACING AND ALL THAT TO BE MAY 1ST FOR THAT TO BE FULLY OPENED.
AND THEN THE FUN PART, TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF IT ALL, IT'S FOR THE COST.
IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR AB THERE, UM, AS WE HAD TO, HAD TO ADD IN THAT RUBBER INSTALLATION AND A FEW CHANGES THERE.
UM, GETTING THE DISCOUNTS FROM THE MOJAVE CO-OP THAT THEY'RE A PART OF HELPED WITH SOME OF THE PRICING THERE.
UM, BUT SO CHANGED IT SLIGHTLY.
SO HERE'S KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE PRICES THERE.
THESE PRICES LISTED HERE ON THE FAR RIGHT ARE WHAT WILL BE OUR PRICE AS COMPEND BEING PART OF THE MOJAVE CO-OP, WHICH WE WOULD PURCHASE IT THROUGH WITH THE LINKING AGREEMENT, WE'RE GETTING THESE DISCOUNTS TO BRING THEM DOWN TO THOSE PRICES.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, PART OF THE MOJAVE CO-OP, THIS PRICE TO INCLUDE ALL THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, ALL INSTALLATION, THE ADULT FITNESS EQUIPMENT, SHIPPING THE RUBBER PLAYGROUND SAFETY SURFACING FOR OUR GRAND TOTAL WOULD BE THE 503,763.
THE DIFFERENCE HERE IN WHAT THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT YOU HAD READ WOULD BE THE ADULT FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND THOSE EMBANKMENT SLIDES, WE COULD CHO CHOOSE TO BREAK THOSE INTO A SEPARATE PHASE IF WE WANTED TO.
AND THAT WOULD GET IT BACK DOWN TO THE 473,000 AMOUNT YOU HAD MENTIONED.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE IF WE DO STILL PLAN TO DO THE ADULT FITNESS AND THE EMBANKMENT SLIDES TO THEN DO IT AS A SEPARATE ORDER AND HAVE IT THEN COME BACK UP TO DO INSTALLATION.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO INCLUDE IT ALL AS ONE AND MAKE IT THAT 503,000 AND GET ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT DONE IN ONE SWIPE THERE.
BUT THAT IS THE DISCRETION THERE WITH THE PRICING.
SO ULTIMATELY GOAL IS TO CREATE THE NATURAL PLAYGROUND THAT'S ONE OF A KIND UNIQUE AND THE FEATURES BEING THAT RANGER JEEP, THE JAVELINA MOTHER WITH THE SLIDE OFF THE SIDE, THE BABY JAVELINA WITH THE CLIMBING STONES, THE COCOA WAVE PENDULUM SWING, THE RUBBER SAFETY SURFACING EMBANKMENT SLIDES AND THE CASCADING WATER DETENTION AND THAT ADULT FITNESS STATION.
THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'LL TAKE ONE BY ONE VICE MAYOR.
UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHERE ABOUT, ABOUT TO DISCUSS A CONTRACT FOR A DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP.
SO I WANNA KNOW MAYBE BRYCE IF YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THIS, IS THIS PLAYGROUND THAT WE'RE THIS BRAND NEW PLAYGROUND THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT, IS IT GONNA PASS THE DECARBONIZATION TEST? YEAH.
UH, YEAH, I BELIEVE WITH THE, UH, THE SUSTAINABLE, UH, FORESTRY OPTIONS THAT ARE, UH, BEING HARVESTED FOR THAT WOOD OPTION, UH, UTILIZING THAT SURFACE, UH, VERSUS, OR THAT, UH, BUILDING COMPONENT VERSUS GOING WITH A, UH, PLASTIC SUBSTRATE OR MORE CONCRETE, UH, COMPONENTS TO IT, UH, DOES HAVE A DEFINITE REDUCTION IN WHAT THE ULTIMATE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF THAT PLAYGROUND SURFACE WOULD'VE BEEN.
SO I, I BELIEVE THIS ONE, UH, WOULD DEFINITELY BE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF WIDTH, SUSTAIN WITH SUSTAINABILITY.
UH, ANYTHING TO MY RIGHT, MELISSA? BRIAN? NOTHING.
I WON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL HAVE COMMENTS.
JUST WANTED TO ASK HOW WE DOING WITH THE BUDGET 9 24 REMAINING, THAT WAS BEFORE
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THIS CONTRACT IS OUT, RIGHT? CORRECT.WHAT'S LEFT IN THE SCOPE AND HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THE BUDGET? DIFFERENT TYPES? I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT.
SO WE STILL HAVE THE RESTROOM, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE IS GONNA BE UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN, UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP.
SO WE'RE GONNA BANG AGAINST THAT, UM, BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
THERE ARE, THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PUSH TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
JESSICA, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO QUESTION.
HOW DOES THAT MULTI-PERSON OR CHILD SWING COMPARE TO THE INDIVIDUAL SWINGS THAT YOU SEE ON A CONVENTIONAL PLAY SET? AND I MEAN, WHAT IF ONE CHILD WANTS TO SWING ON THAT LONG, WHATEVER IT, IT IS, UH, HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR ONE? SO IT STILL CAN BE DONE.
UM, IT, THEY CAN STAND ON IT AND GET IT GOING A LITTLE BIT THEMSELVES.
IT'S DEFINITELY BUILT FOR THE MULTI KIDS TO BE PLAYING ON.
UM, IT CAN BE ONE KID SITTING ON IT AND BEING PUSHED AS WELL.
AND THE VIDEO DID EVENTUALLY SHOW THAT KIND OF POINT TOO.
UM, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY BUILT FOR MORE THAN ONE KID.
UM, THE DIFFERENCE WHY WE KINDA WENT THIS DIRECTION ORIGINALLY IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE ANOTHER BASKET TYPE SWING ALONG WITH A REGULAR SWING SET.
WE DO HAVE THOSE IN SUNSET PARK AND POSSE GROUNDS PARK AS WELL.
SO IT WAS, WHAT CAN WE FIND THAT'S DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE AND NOT DUPLICATED FOR THE THIRD TIME IN SEDONA? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WOUND UP WITH THIS TYPE OF SWING.
JUST A SWING IS A SWING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE, I KNOW I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT THERE AREN'T A LOT OF CHILDREN LIVING IN THAT GENERAL AREA, BUT I'M HOPING THAT CHILDREN WILL COME FROM OTHER AREAS TO USE THE UNIQUE EQUIPMENT, BUT ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO THE INSTALL, DID YOU SAY THAT THE, THE PRICE THAT YOU PROVIDED, THE 500,000 INCLUDED THE INSTALL? YES.
SO LARRY'S NOT GONNA GET OUT THERE AND
NO, IT EVEN SAYS ENOUGH WORK FOR YOU LARRY.
INSTALLATION WAS SKILLED LABOR.
THAT RULES, THAT RULES ME OUT, OH WAIT A MINUTE.
I BEG TO DIFFER WITH YOU ON THAT.
I'VE SEEN HIM DO SOME DRAMATIC GREAT THINGS.
SO, UH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T READ THAT EVEN WITH MY GLASSES AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.
SO, UH, AND THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.
I THINK WE HAVE ONLY SIX ITEMS ON OUR, IN THE AGENDA BILL AND THAT'S THAT STILL SIX ITEMS? I CAN'T TELL TWO, THREE.
YES, IT'S THE SIX ITEMS THEN FREIGHT JUST SPACED OUT, INSTALLATION, AND THEN THE INSTALLATION OF THE RUBBER SURFACING.
I'M CURIOUS, I MEAN THAT IS A VERY HIGH TICKET ITEM AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRICE OF $500,000, BUT THAT IS FOR EVERYTHING.
HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM? WHAT'S NOT SWINGS AT AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK THAT YOU WERE JUST INSTALLED? AND I TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONCEPT.
I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT WHAT DID THAT COST? UM, THE BASIC COST, UH, MAYOR FOR THE POSSE GROUND PLAYGROUND JUST FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THE FLEX GROUND INSTALLATION WAS JUST BELOW 500,000.
I BELIEVE IT WAS 474 AND SOME CHANGE.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD THE ADDITION OF ALL OF THE, UH, CEMENT WORK THAT SURROUNDS THE PARK ALONG WITH THE FIVE ADDITIONAL SHADE STRUCTURES FOR THE MULTI-USE FIELD, UH, TO COVER THE BLEACHERS.
SO ALL TOLD, I BELIEVE POSSE GROUND WAS JUST SHY OF 800,000.
MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE CLOSER TO SEVEN 50.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT APPLES TO APPLES AND TO ME I THOUGHT $500,000 WAS WAY MORE THAN I WAS INTERESTED IN.
UH, BUT KNOWING WHAT ANOTHER SET WOULD GO FOR, THAT'S NOT FANCY WOOD AND YEAH.
YOU KNOW, UH, BUT I'D RATHER SEE THE WOOD OVER METAL BECAUSE IT WILL, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT WON'T DETERIORATE FROM THE SUN.
SO IT'S COMPARABLE AND IT'S A CUSTOM DESIGN AS WELL.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ANYWHERE ELSE WITH THESE HAVES.
SO THIS IS ONE OF A, SO IT'S, IT'S TRULY UNIQUE.
AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY KIND OF WARRANTY WORK AND WHAT KIND OF WARRANTY DO THEY GIVE? BECAUSE THEY'RE IN ENGLAND I BELIEVE.
YES, THEY'RE IN DENMARK IS THEIR LOCATION.
UM, YES, THEY DO HAVE A WARRANTY.
SO DENMARK IS WHERE THEY ARE DOING THE WOOD, WHERE COMPOUND'S BASED ITSELF, PLACE-BASED DESIGNS IS KIND OF THEIR SISTER COMPANY AND THEY HAVE AN OFFICE IN PHOENIX, UTAH AND DALLAS.
SO THEY ARE ARIZONA BASED THERE AS WELL.
SO THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO DO THE INSTALL AND THAT KIND OF THING THERE FOR THEIR WARRANTY? YES, THEY DO DIFFERENT VARYING, BUT THE 10 YEAR WARRANTY IS THEIR PRIMARY WARRANTY ON ALL
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THEIR MATERIALS.IF THE WOOD IS TO EVER GET ANY LIKE BUG INFESTATION OR SKILLED LABOR TO COME AND INSTALL IT.
WERE THEY COMING FROM DENMARK? I OBVIOUSLY NOT BE COMING FROM PHOENIX, SO YES.
I I JUST DIDN'T WANNA BE FLYING PEOPLE INTO DENMARK JUST TO DO THE INSTALL, SO NOPE, JUST THE WOOD, SO.
WHY DON'T WE START ON THIS SIDE.
JESSICA, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
I THINK THAT THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU FOUND IS SPECTACULAR.
UM, I, I THINK YOU'VE CREATED SOMETHING UNIQUE AND SINGULAR, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WHEN, WHEN I FIRST THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PARK.
I DON'T THINK SEDONA NEEDS TO SETTLE FOR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES AND THE CHEAPEST ON THE MARKET AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS ABOUT COST THAT GO BACK TO WHEN THEY WERE 23 AND GAS WAS 29 CENTS A GALLON.
AND SO EVERYTHING JUST COSTS A LOT MORE THAN ANYBODY THINKS IT SHOULD.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A SPECTACULAR PROJECT.
I THINK IT IS CREATIVE AND, AND IS THE KIND OF PROJECT SEDONA SHOULD BE, SHOULD, ALL OF OUR PROJECTS SHOULD REFLECT THIS LEVEL OF CREATIVITY, DESIGN, EXCELLENCE, AND THOUGHTFULNESS.
AND SO I, I COMMEND YOU AND I SUPPORT IT AND I SUPPORT THE FULL ALLOCATION OF THE 500, 3000 AT THIS TIME TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE.
AND IF WE, IF WE NEED SOME MONEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I'M SURE WE COULD WORK WITH KAREN TO FIND IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENT, MAYOR.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
YEAH, WHAT I HAVE IS A LIST OF ADJECTIVES WHICH ARE UNIQUE, CREATIVE, CUSTOM, NATURAL, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, EDUCATIONAL, HISTORICAL ACTIVE HATS OFF TO STAFF.
I THINK THIS IS A SUPERB PROJECT.
I REALLY LOVE HOW IT BLENDS, UM, PASSIVE SPACE, ACTIVE SPACE, CHILDREN'S NEEDS, ADULT NEEDS.
UM, IT IS A, JUST A WONDERFUL MIX.
IT'S PHYSICAL, IT'S, UM, ENGAGING, ENTERTAINING.
I AM, I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THIS.
I WAS, WHEN YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I LOVED THE CONCEPT.
I LOVE FURTHER MORE EVEN WHERE YOU'VE TAKEN IT.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL FEATHER IN THE CAP OF SEDONA RECREATION PROGRAMS. UM, SO THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL.
SECONDLY, I HAVE THE VICE MAYOR REPORTED EARLIER ON THE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL AND ON HALLOWEEN, AND I ATTENDED BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS AS WELL AS I ATTENDED CONCERTS IN THE PARK AND MOVIES IN THE PARK.
WE DO HAVE CHILDREN IN SEDONA.
WE HAVE CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN SEDONA.
WE HAVE CHILDREN WHO VISIT SEDONA.
THOSE CHILDREN DESERVE AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER CITIZEN OF SEDONA AND THEIR INTERESTS DESERVE, UM, SUPPORT, UH, FUNDING ACTIVITIES, THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE.
YOU HAVE REALLY PROVIDED THAT HERE.
I, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A FREQUENT VISITOR TO THE SPACE.
YOU WILL, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
I SUPPORT THE, ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE FULL FUNDING OF THE 503 7 63 AND 6 CENTS AND I'LL BE, WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MOTION WHEN WE'RE READY.
UM, I THINK COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON'S COMMENTS THOUGH ALL THE SUPERLATIVES WERE, WERE LEADING ME TO WHAT I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WOULD SAY, WHICH IS THAT A CITY THAT IS ANIMATED BY THE ARTS WOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE CLEARLY THE LINAS ARE ANIMATION OF ARTS, RIGHT? WITHOUT A DOUBT.
SO IT IS AN EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
THE MAYOR'S QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS COMPARE PRICE WISE? LIKE I JUST APPROVED, UM, AS A MEMBER OF MY CHURCH A PLAYGROUND THAT WOULD BE OF THE MORE GENERIC VARIETY, LIKE WHAT'S AT POSSE GROUNDS.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT COMPARABLE IN, IN COST, BUT THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY MORE EXPENSIVE, UH,
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DESIGN AND AND IMPLEMENTATION.AND I THINK THAT AS COUNSELORS ARE CONCERNED, I THINK WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT, THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY MAKING A, UH, A DECISION TO CERTAINLY SPEND, WELL, MORE THAN THE MINIMUM.
AGAIN, AS COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON HAD POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS NOT A, YOU KNOW, RACE TO THE BOTTOM TYPE OF INVESTMENT.
SO MY HOPE IS, IS THAT WE DO NEED TO GET REALLY GOOD PR OUT OF THIS.
AND IT WOULD BE EXCEPTIONAL IF THERE WAS SOME WAY THAT THIS ACTUALLY LED SOME FAMILIES TO CHOOSING TO MOVE TO SEDONA BECAUSE THEY SEE AN INVESTMENT LIKE THIS.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE WISHFUL THINKING, BUT I'M GONNA WISH IT.
SO, UH, OVERALL I DO SUPPORT, UH, THE EXPENDITURE AT THE FULL AMOUNT AS, UH, REQUESTED SO THAT IT ALL GETS DONE AT ONE SHOT.
OKAY, MELISSA, SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU STOLE WHAT I WAS GONNA GO FOR.
SO ANIMATED BY THE ARTS, THIS IS FOR SURE, UM, AN ARTISTIC DESIGN ALL THE WAY AROUND.
IT'S HISTORICAL UM, PUTTING THE LITTLE EMBLEMS OF WHATEVER THE FOREST SERVICE WOULD'VE LOOKED LIKE IN 1905, UM, ON THE JEEPS, UH, GETTING CHILDREN TO NOT ONLY THINK ABOUT PLAY, BUT TO ALSO THINK ABOUT WHERE THEY LIVE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND THEM, WHICH INCLUDES OUR WONDERFULLY HATED, UM, JAVELINA.
AND, UM, TO THINK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY LIVE, ALL OF THAT.
AND, AND ALSO HONESTLY, TO SEE ADULTS WORKING OUT.
UM, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE, ARE, UM, I THINK, CRITICAL TO WHAT WE WANT OUR NEXT GENERATIONS TO BE EXPOSED TO.
AND, UM, I'M STILL VOTING FOR A PLACARD THAT SAYS BY ORDINANCE, NO FEEDING OF THE WILDLIFE, BUT
UH, AND I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE FULL AMOUNT.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND BEAUTY ANIMATION AND FUN ARE NOT CHEAP.
VICE MAYOR, UH, COUNSELOR KINSELLA AND I TOOK A ROAD TRIP TO YUMA LAST YEAR, OR MAYBE IT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE, AND WE STOPPED AT A PARK, WHICH WAS FABULOUS.
AND WE SAID, WHY CAN'T SEDONA DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? WHY CAN'T WE BE CREATIVE AND UNIQUE? WHY IS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? AND, UH, YOU HAVE SURPASSED THAT, I WILL SAY IN THIS.
AND, UH, I JUST WANNA COMMEND YOU, JOSH, BECAUSE THE PARKS AND REC PROGRAM UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS JUST BLOSSOMED INTO A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.
I MEAN, IT WAS ALWAYS REALLY GOOD, BUT YOU'VE TAKEN IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH COUNSELOR FOLTZ THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING FAMILIES INTO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE WANNA OFFER AMENITIES FOR FAMILIES.
SO I, UM, I THINK THAT INVESTING IN CHILDREN, INVESTING IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR RESIDENTS, IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO.
UH, SO I AM COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AT THE FULL AMOUNT, AND, AND I REALLY WANNA THANK YOU AND SANDY AND LARRY AND EVERYBODY ELSE, AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT IT IS, MEETS OUR SUSTAINABLE CHALLENGES AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.
UH, THAT LEAVES ME LAST, AS USUAL.
YOU THREE MADE A PROMISE TO US AND YOU DELIVERED 10 TIMES OVER SANDY.
AND I JOKED ABOUT IT FOR THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS ABOUT, WELL, WHEN AM I GONNA SEE THIS? HAVE ALINA, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE GARBAGE CANS NEARBY FOR THEM TO HAVE TO KNOCK OVER, I'M GOOD.
I WAS A LITTLE PUT OFF BY THE PRICE TAG BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY THINK WE DISCUSSED PRICE AT THE TIME, BUT WHAT DO I KNOW ABOUT BUYING A, A, UH, PLAY SET? I DON'T, AND I HOPE I WON'T FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT, UH, BUT FOR WHAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, I MEAN, I, I, I WAS ALWAYS IMPRESSED BY WHAT WE HAVE AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK, AND I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.
THIS REALLY IS EXCEPTIONAL PLUS THE COMPONENT OF ADULT PLAY, AND, UH, THAT WAS MISSED BY OUR PUBLIC.
THE SMALL GAMES I THINK, WILL GO A LONG WAY TO HELP AS WELL.
I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UH, I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS, AND, UH, MAYBE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THIS WAS A, THE OLD RANGER STATION,
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I WOULD THINK HORSESHOES WAS A REALLY BIG GAME.SO I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY FITTING, UH, BOCCE BALL, I WOULD THINK ALSO, UH, CORN HOLE, PROBABLY NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIKE.
SO I, I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
OH, BY THE WAY, I, I DO SUPPORT IT FOR THE FULL FUNDING.
I WAS JUST UNSURE OF THAT NUMBER, NOT REALIZING THAT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
SO, UH, WE HAVE ONE, UH, SPEAKER.
WE'LL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, PEGGY CHAKIN, YOU HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
JUST GIVE THE CITY CLERK A CHANCE TO SET THE CLOCK.
I WAS A, UH, PRESCHOOL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER.
I WORKED WITH CHILDREN WITH SEVERE DISABILITIES.
THE TYPE OF SWING THAT YOU'VE CHOSEN IS REALLY GREAT, UM, TO INTEGRATE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND HELP THEM HAVE VESTIBULAR STIMULATION IN THAT TYPE OF MOTION.
AND THEY CAN BE WEDGED BETWEEN OTHER CHILDREN OR ADULTS ON SUCH A SWING, UH, STRADDLING IT.
SO THAT'S HAS ANOTHER FEATURE THAT I THINK IS REALLY POWERFUL FOR THIS.
THE ONE THING I'M MISSING IN IT, AND I'M NOT IN THE WORKING GROUP, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT WHERE'S THE SHADE STRUCTURE? IS THERE A SHADE STRUCTURE? I KNOW THEY HAD TO PUT A SHADE STRUCTURE ON OVER SUNSET PARK.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GONNA BE GETTING COOLER FOLKS.
IT'S GONNA BE GETTING HOTTER, AND WE ARE NOT GONNA BE WAITING FOR TREES TO GROW AT THE PARK FOR SHADE.
SO I SUGGEST THAT WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR BUDGET TO PROVIDE SHADE OVER THESE STRUCTURES.
I'VE SEEN MANY CHILDREN IN PLAYGROUNDS NOT ABLE TO GO ON THE EQUIPMENT.
IT HAPPENS EVEN AT SUNSET PARK WHERE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GO ON THAT CLIMBING EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SHADE.
BUT THEY ADDED THE SHADE IN THE OTHER AREA WHERE THEY HAVE THE ROCKING HORSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO ALSO THERE COULD BE, UM, SHADE FOR CARS THAT PARK THERE AND PANELS ON TOP FOR SOLAR THAT WOULD HAVE BATTERY PACKS SO THAT WE, IT WOULD SUPPLY LIGHTING FOR PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS AT NIGHT.
WE SHOULDN'T BE THINKING FORWARD IN INCORPORATING OUR ASPIRATIONS FOR COOLING AREAS AND FOR ALSO PROVIDING SOLAR ENERGY AND MAKING IT NOTABLE THAT WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT FOR PEOPLE.
WE COULD EVEN CHARGE PARENTS CARS WHILE THEIR KIDS ARE PLAYING IN THE PARK.
SO I JUST OFFER THAT SUGGESTION.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY CARD I HAVE, IS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND, UH, COUNCILOR KINSELLA ALREADY SAID SHE'S INTERESTED IN MAKING THE MOTION.
UM, I DID WANNA BRING UP SOMETHING THAT, UM, JUST WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, ARIZONA WATER COMPANY IS, UM, CONSTRUCTING A TANK SITE IN, IN TOWN, AND THEY'VE BOXED SOME OF THEIR VERY LARGE MA MATURE, MATURE TREES.
AND THEY'VE APPROACHED THE CITY AND, AND OFFERED TO, UM, PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE TREES TO THIS SITE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 10, AT LEAST PINON PINE THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE SITE ON THE PLANS, AND WE'RE GOING TO PLANT THOSE.
SO, UM, NICE BIG MATURE TREES.
SO, AND WE'VE LEFT A BUNCH OF THE, THE LARGER TREES, SO WE DO HAVE SOME SHADE OUT THERE.
SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO MENTION IS OUR, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME BOLLARDS TYPICALLY, OR SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE ON SITE.
THEY'RE ALL SOLAR BOLLARDS FOR, UM, WALKWAY LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
THIS PARK IS ANTICIPATED TO BE, UM, ONLY SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT IN A FUTURE PHASE, UM, SOME KIND OF LIKE A GAZEBO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR SHADE FOR THE PICNIC AREAS, BUT THAT SINCE THIS IS A BRAND NEW PARK, WE WANNA SEE HOW EVERYTHING IS FITTING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM THESE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
SO ANY KIND OF STRUCTURE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT HONORS THOSE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
CINDY, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE ON THE DESK THAT HAS QUESTIONS OF, OF THAT LAST BIT OF INFORMATION? JUST A COMMENT TO THAT.
UM, I LIKE TO HEAR THAT AS WELL, THE SUNRISE TO SUNSET FEATURE AND THE, THE, THE BOLLARDS AND THAT THERE ISN'T OTHER OVERHEAD LIGHTING AT THIS POINT PLANNED, BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALSO HELPS MAINTAIN OUR DARK SKIES, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR TO BALANCE IN ALL OF THIS AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR THINKING THAT THROUGH.
AND JESSICA, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD? I WOULD JUST LIKE, UM,
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SOME, SOME, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON TOP OF THE PARKING? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE.IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CONSIDER TAKES AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC ASPECT? IS THAT WHY YOU MENTIONED HISTORIC ASPECT OR, WELL, RIGHT NOW THE PARKING LOT IS, UM, AGGREGATE BASE, SO IT'S NOT A PAVEMENT PARKING LOT, RIGHT? SO, UM, THE HEAT REFLECTION AND BRYSON, THE EXPERTS CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
SO THE INTENT WAS THAT WE WOULD GET WATER INFILTRATION AND IT DOESN'T REFLECT A LOT OF HEAT.
BUT AGAIN, UM, STEVE MERTZ IS HERE, SO HE CAN PROBABLY DISCUSS THAT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN PHASES, UHHUH.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
I JUST, I JUST WANT THAT THOUGHT ABOUT IS, IS THE AGGREGATE BASE ANTITHETICAL TO SOLAR PANELS? UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO DETAIL NOW.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME AND PLACE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME, MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN JUST GET BACK TO ME ABOUT, ABOUT WHETHER SOLAR PANELS ACTUALLY WOULD MAKE SENSE OR NOT MAKE SENSE AT THIS LOCATION.
I DON'T REALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT IT LENGTH HERE.
I DON'T THINK, UNLESS YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING KAREN? I, I JUST WANNA SAY IN, IN, UM, JUST TO REINFORCE WHAT, WHAT SANDY SAID ABOUT THIS IS A UNIQUE PARK BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE, THEY, THE STAFF, UM, THE CONSULTANTS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM HAS DONE SO MUCH MM-HMM.
AND, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF A SOLAR ARRAY RIGHT OVER A PARKING LOT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD, THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
SO I THINK DOING THE FIRST PHASE AND SORT OF EVALUATING MM-HMM,
I JUST WONDER IN THE FUTURE IF SOMEONE COULD THINK ABOUT IT AND JUST, I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR BACK ON IT.
I, I DO, I DO THINK A SHADE STRUCTURE IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOUGH AFTER YOU GET PLANT THE TREES, BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT I, I WAS AT SUNSET PARK AND IT GOT REALLY, REALLY HOT.
AND THIS IS WOOD AND ISN'T THAT PART, THE WOOD IS, DOESN'T GET IT HOT.
SO, UM, BUT OF COURSE HAVING SHADE WHILE YOU'RE PLAYING IS ALSO NICE, BUT, MM-HMM.
IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.
THE CONCERN I THINK KIND OF WAS THE SAME THING ABOUT WITH THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, UM, SOCIETY AND SOME OF THOSE THAT IT'S, WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT'S TAKING AWAY FROM THE RANGER STATION OR THE BARN OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
ANY BIG STRUCTURES, COLORFUL THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION THERE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO.
YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS A TRADE OFF.
DID YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION? AM I READY FOR THE NO, NOT, NO QUESTION.
I HAVE DO HAVE A QUESTION, UH, RELATED TO THE SHADE STRUCTURE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IT'S ANTICIPATED IT'S GONNA GO.
IS IT GONNA GO OVER THE JAVELINA? IS IT GONNA GO OVER THE, THE SLIDES? IS IT, I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF STUFF AND IT'S NOT TOGETHER.
SO WHERE IS IT ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, THE DAY? I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE EVALUATED FURTHER DOWN.
BUT IT IT, IT CAN'T BE OVER THE WHOLE PART.
JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WAS BEING ASKED FOR FROM THE DA.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE LINKING AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF RANGER STATION PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES IN THE AMOUNT OF $503,763 AND 6 CENTS, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON FOR THE SECOND.
[8.c. AB 3013 Discussion/possible action regarding the award of a construction contract to Combs Construction Company, Inc. for the Uptown Northbound Roadway Improvements Project, SIM-1B, in the approximate amount of $4,468,058, subject to approval of the written contract by the City Attorney’s Office.]
OKAY, ITEM C, AB 30 13.DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE AWARD OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO COMBS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC.
FOR THE UPTOWN NORTHBOUND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SIM ONE B IN THE APPROXIMATE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF 4,468,050, I'M SORRY.
UH, FOUR 4 MILLION 4 68 0 56, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF A WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
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SHE'S RIGHT.I DON'T LIKE TO WEAR MY GLASSES.
YOU HAVE TO WEAR YOUR GLASSES.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR OF COUNCIL.
I'D FIRST LIKE TO INTRODUCE JOHN HALL.
HE'S OUR, UH, SUPERVISOR IN ENGINEERING SUPERVISOR.
AND HE'S BEEN A GREAT HELP TO ME AND TO THE CITY AND REALLY HELPED US, UH, GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE, UH, PROJECT OF TRYING TO GET A, A VALUE ENGINEERING AND THE BEST, UH, BEST PRICE, THE BEST VALUE TO DELIVER THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.
UM, I'M SHOWING RIGHT NOW IS THE ORIGINAL SLIDE THAT WE PUT UP IN APRIL.
AND THEN THIS IS THE ONE WE PRESENTED YOU BACK IN AUGUST.
AND I THINK, UH, ANDY MENTIONED THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, HOW THIS FUNCTIONS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROJECT.
IT'S PRIMARILY IF YOU SEE FOREST AND, UH, I'M TRYING HARD TO LOOK OVER HERE.
SO NOTICE, NOTICE THE MEDIAN, HOW IT WORKS INTO THE FOREST INTERSECTION.
SO THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS JOB IS TO TRY TO COUNTER THE, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE ON THE SOUTHBOUND PROJECT, UH, SIM ONE, WHICH WAS THE TWO LANES GOING FROM OAK CREEK, UM, CANYON SOUTHBOUND.
AND NOW THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PROJECT, WHICH IS TIED TO OUR AMARA LANE MM-HMM.
AND THEN IF YOU REMEMBER IN OUR SIM UPDATE, UM, KIMLEY HORN, UM, ESTIMATED WE'D BE A 20% EFFICIENCY IN PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.
AND THE DATA ACTUALLY SHOWED IN LAST SPRING AT OUR HIGH PEAK FLOWS, IT WAS 18%.
SO THE VIM MODELS ARE PRETTY ACCURATE IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND HOW THIS WORKS.
SO THE WHOLE BIG POINT OF THIS GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE, IS THIS INTERSECTION IS GOING TO CHANNEL THE CARS AND BE EXTENDED INTO NOW.
I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY MISSED ANYTHING, UM, OF HOW THIS ENCROACHES INTO THE INTERSECTION.
SO FOREST AS IT, THE INTERSECTION NOW IT WORKS, WOULD BE TOTALLY, UM, RE REDESIGNED IN THAT IT'S GONNA ALLOW FREE THROW TRAFFIC THE SINGULAR ONE WAY IN A NORTHBOUND AND HAVE MORE STORAGE CAPACITY.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN WE CHANGE THE LIGHT OUT, PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO CHANGE THE HARDWARE, THE SYNCHRONIZING OF THE EXISTING FOREST LIGHT.
SO THE REALLY, THE MOMENT, THE, THE LIGHT'S ONLY GONNA CHANGE NOW AS FOR THIS PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, UM, AT THIS POINT, AS IT'S NOT MOVING THE TRAFFIC FORWARD.
SO THE INTENT IS THAT THIS TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL ALLOW A LOT MORE MOVEMENT, UH, FREE MOVEMENT NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND.
UM, THERE WILL BE LEFT HAND TURNING MOVEMENTS FROM FOREST TO NORTHBOUND, BUT THE MODELS SHOW THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE CONNECTIVITY, THE MOBILITY, AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THIS INTER INTERSECTION.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
KURT, YOU'RE DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION.
I, WE, WE WENT, WE DID THROUGH TWO SIM UPDATES IN, YOU KNOW, APRIL AND IN AUGUST.
AND WE SHOWED IN THE VIS MODELS OF HOW THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT LINKS TO THE FOREST ROAD, WHICH IS ON THE PENDING GARAGE OF THIS IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THAT WHOLE PURPOSE.
AND IT'S REALLY, UH, UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COST ESTIMATES FROM 2022 TO THIS YEAR CHANGE SO SIGNIFICANTLY.
BUT IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE STATEWIDE, NATIONALLY, IF YOU REALLY TRACK PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS AND HOW COSTLY THINGS HAVE COME SINCE POST PANDEMIC.
UM, IT'S JUST THE PRICE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND THE REALLY THE STRUGGLE.
AND THANKS TO JOHN HELPING THE WORK WITH THE CONTRACTORS OF TRYING TO GET A LOCAL CONTRACTOR TO GIVE US A QUALITY BID AND A MINUTE.
AND WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE 'CAUSE IT WAS REALLY JOHN WORKING THROUGH OUR, UM, PREVIOUS CONNECTIONS WITH THE JOB ORDERING CONTRACTOR GETTING, UM, COMBS RIGHT AT THIS TIME.
SO, AND IT WAS A, UH, IT WAS A FOUR MONTH, UH, EFFORT TO GET A COMPETITIVE BID ON THIS.
AS WE SAID IN THE AB, WE FIRST ADVERTISED ON JAN, UH, JULY 5TH, DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE.
WE GOT ONE RESPONSE FROM VANKE CON, UH, CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEN WE REJECTED THAT 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST ONE BID.
WE REBID IT AND THEN HAD, UH, JUST TWO BIDS, ANNEKE AND, UH, STANDARD CONSTRUCTION.
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CAME IN AT 4.6 AND $4.7 MILLION, WHICH WAS WITHIN 1% OF EACH OTHER.WE THOUGHT, WELL MAYBE THAT'S THE MARKET, BUT IT WAS ONLY TWO BIDS.
SO THEN WE, THEN WE TRIED TO APPROACH SOME JOC CONTRACTORS, UH, PIGGYBACKING ON TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, OCS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF JOC CONTRACTS, BUT IT'S JUST PAVEMENT PRESERVATION, UH, LEVEL, UH, CONTRACTORS.
SO THIS LAST, UH, BID THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING TO, UH, TO APPROVE IS 4.4 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT $180,000 LESS THAN, SO IT WAS WORTHWHILE.
UH, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'VE PROVED OVER THOSE FOUR MONTHS IS THE MARKET IS AS, AS KURT SAYS UP THERE.
AND, AND IN PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE ALL LEARNED THAT PERHAPS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO CHANGE MORE TO A JOB ORDERING CONTRACT.
UM, AND I THINK THE BIG LEARNING LESSON FOR MYSELF AND JOHN PUBLIC WORKS IS THAT IT ALLOWED US TO DO VALUE ENGINEERING.
UM, WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THESE.
SO WE BASICALLY ALLOWED IN COMMS IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL THAT, UM, ALSO THE OTHER CONTRACTOR, NESBIT, UM, REQUESTED THAT BECAUSE THE BIG CHALLENGE THAT THEY'RE FACING IS THE, THE COST GETTING FROM SUBCONTRACTORS AND GETTING A TIMELY ONE AND THEN HAVING THE SUBCONTRACTOR GUARANTEE THAT PRICE FOR SIX MONTHS OR SO ON.
AND THAT'S THAT ADDED RISK THAT THEY THEN PUT A MORE CONSERVATIVE VALUE ON THEIR COST ESTIMATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR.
SO THIS, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING YOU TODAY IS, IS THE VERY BEST WE COULD DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UH, BRIAN, YOU INDICATED YOU HAVE A COMMENT, A QUESTION.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING REALLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING HERE.
SO OFF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DRAWING IS THE Y ROUNDABOUT, RIGHT? AND COMING OFF OF THAT, THERE'S TWO LANES HEADING NORTHBOUND, RIGHT? WAIT, THIS'LL SHOW BETTER.
CAN THIS BE MADE ANY LARGER, UM, ON A SCREEN? I MEAN, I COULD NOT ON THIS IMAGE.
I COULD GO TO THE DRAWINGS TO TRY TO THOSE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HELP.
YEAH, BUT THE Y ROUNDABOUT IS RIGHT BACK AROUND THIS CORNER PROBABLY RIGHT HERE.
AND SO WE HAVE TWO LANES COMING OFF THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEY'RE GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FOREST ROAD INTERSECTION.
BUT PRIOR TO THAT, NOW YOU'VE GOT THIS LARGE ISLAND TO SPLIT THE TWO LANES.
AND SO RIGHT NOW YOU GET PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT LEFT LANE THAT AT THE LAST SECOND THEY REALIZE THEY NEED TO GET INTO THE RIGHT LANE 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO GO STRAIGHT THROUGH UPTOWN.
HOW DOES THIS DESIGN IMPROVE UPON THAT PROBLEM OTHER THAN PUSHING THE PROBLEM BACK CLOSER TO THE Y OF, I'M STILL IN THE WRONG LANE COMING OFF THE ROUNDABOUT, I GOTTA GET IN THE RIGHT LANE AND NOW I GOTTA DO IT EVEN SOONER THAN BEFORE.
HOW, HOW DOES THIS HELP WITH THAT? GREAT QUESTION, BRIAN.
UM, THAT WHAT WAS SHOWED, UM, IN THE MODEL WAS, UM, HOW THIS PHYSICAL BARRIER, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DO GET QUESTIONED AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OVER COURTEOUS DRIVERS IN THIS TOWN THAT DON'T HELP OUR CONGESTION.
AND UM, SO THAT'S WHY I DID THAT, A TEMPORARY TEST, UM, WITH OUR RIGHT OF WAY GROUP OF PUTTING THOSE DELINEATORS UP.
BECAUSE ALREADY WHEN WE DID THOSE DELINEATORS, WE'RE ALREADY FINDING A HIGHER EFFICIENCY IN THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS TO PREVENT FRICTION.
ALL THESE PROCESSES, LIKE PART OF THAT IS WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THOSE 13 PARKING SPOTS TO THAT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THEN WE'RE REALLY PUSHING THAT QUEUE FARTHER UP TO THE FOREST INTERSECTION FROM THE Y AND THAT WHILE PEOPLE, IF THEY GO INTO THIS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND WHERE THEY'RE FINDING, THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN THAT LEFT AND THEN THE FOREST ROAD CONNECTION CAN BRING 'EM AROUND AND THEY CAN TRY A SECOND TIME OR DO A U-TURN FARTHER DOWNSTREAM.
BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT FRICTION ON THIS MAIN STEM ARTERIAL OF EIGHT OF 89 A AMEN AND AMEN.
SO ONCE I'M GET PAST THE FOREST ROAD STOPLIGHT, NOW YOU'VE TAKEN OUT THE 13 PARKING SPOTS AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE OPENED UP TWO LANES THEN FOR A SHORT DISTANCE.
NO, THEY SHOULD BE SINGLE, BUT WE ALLOWED THE DESIGN TO HAVE A LITTLE, A MULTI MOVEMENT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE LOADING ZONE COMING OUT OF PINK JEEP TOURS WHERE THEY QUEUE IN AND THE MODELS SHOWED THAT THEY USE THAT SO MUCH.
WE NEEDED TO HAVE EXTRA, UM, VARIABLE ALTERNATIVES FOR MULTIPLE VEHICLES
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COMING INTO THE OMB ROUNDABOUT.BUT THIS IS A PHYSICAL CONSTRICTION.
SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING HERE, THEY CAN SEE THAT YES, THEY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE WHOLE REASON THIS IS HEADED OUT, THEY CAN'T THEN DO A LEFT TURN ONTO FOREST.
SO THIS IS REALLY A TRAFFIC, UH, SYSTEM TO TRY TO KEEP THE CARS GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION WITHOUT STOPPING, UM, AS LEAST AS MOUNT AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS DESIGN IS SOMEHOW IS SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF FOREST.
I MEAN IF, IF I'M WANTING TO COME OFF OF FOREST AND GO NORTHBOUND, ARE YOU SAYING I CAN NO LONGER DO THAT? NO, IT'S STILL THERE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MODEL MM-HMM
SO IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THIS IMPROVEMENT IS GONNA ALLOW MOSTLY FOR PED CROSSING.
AND IF WE DO SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CROSSWALK RIGHT HERE, SO THIS ISLAND'S GONNA MOVE ALL HERE.
SO THE VEHICLES WOULD BE ALL, THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE TO STOP IS FOR PED.
WHEN THIS GOES INTO A RED TO ALLOW PEDS TO CROSS OR THE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF FOREST ROAD THAT WANTS TO TURN OFF, THEN YES.
AND THEN THAT, THAT, THAT SIGNAL WILL THEN ALLOW THAT MOVEMENT AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH VEHICLES TO TRIGGER THE SIGNAL TO TURN LEFT TO GO NORTHBOUND.
BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE EXACT SAME THING AS TODAY.
I DON'T SEE WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
FOREST ROAD ONTO 89 A NORTHBOUND BY VIRTUE OF THIS PROJECT BE BECAUSE THE WAY THE SIGNAL TIMING AND HOW THIS IS OUT, IT'S GONNA ALLOW MORE EFFICIENCY AND IMPROVEMENT LEVEL OF SERVICE TO KEEPING THE TRAFFIC GOING NORTH AND FORCING THOSE CARS THAT WANT TO TURN LEFT WITHOUT CREATING THAT FRICTION OF COMING IN THE LANE.
AND THEN AS THERE'S, UH, A LARGE ENOUGH CUE FOR THAT LEFT HAND TURNING MOVEMENT, IT'LL ALLOW FOR THE PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS AND THEN MAKE THAT LEFT HAND TURN MOVEMENTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST IMPROVING THE LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY OF THIS INTERSECTION PRIMARILY TO ALLOW THAT NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC MOVEMENT AS WE HAVE STORAGE IN THE SOUTHBOUND.
ANOTHER THING, UH, THAT UH, ADDS TO THE CAPACITY OF THAT NORTHBOUND THROUGH IS THAT NOW WE HAVE TWO LANES.
SURE IT DOES MERGE INTO ONE LANE TO GO INTO THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT FOR THAT WHOLE DISTANCE IT'S A TWO LANE, WHEREAS CURRENTLY IT'S A ONE LANE.
SO THAT ADDED STORAGE HELPS TO, UH, GIVE UH, LESS FREQUENT, UH, GRID GRIDLOCK IF YOU WILL.
BUT WE HAVE THOSE TWO LANES TODAY BUT TO, NOT TO THE EXTENT.
SO WE'RE INCREASING STORAGE IF YOU COMPARE, I THINK PART OF THE INTENT TOO IS TO GAIN UTILIZATION OF BOTH LANES BEYOND WHAT WE GET TODAY AS I RECALL.
AND SOME OF THAT IS GONNA COME WITH POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS AREA IN THE WAY OF SIGNS AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH LANE, UM, ASSIGNMENT.
SO YOU, YOU SEE UP THERE TODAY THAT WE HAVE FOR SOUTHBOUND, WE, WE SHOW 1 79 AND 89 A AS I RECALL, GIVEN THE LANE ASSIGNMENT, UM, INDICATION TO THE PA THE THROUGH TRAFFIC SO THAT WE GET FOLKS PASSING THROUGH TO GET IN THE RIGHT LANE EARLIER AND COMMIT TO THAT LANE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG, UM, STRATEGIES OF THIS PROJECT IS TO GET UTILIZATION OF BOTH LANES FURTHER BACK TOWARDS THE Y TODAY.
IT'S UM, THERE IS TOO MUCH LANE CHANGE AND RE-CHANGE GOING ON.
SO GETTING THAT COMMITMENT TO THE RIGHT LANE, THEN HOLDING THEM IN THAT LANE.
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS HERE ALONG THAT LINE OF THINKING IS THE CURB THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE MEDIAN.
ONE THING THAT HAPPENS TODAY, I AM SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT, THAT OF OF VEHICLE WILL GET IN THE LEFT LANE AND BE BE STUCK BEHIND OTHERS THAT ARE TRYING TO CHANGE BACK TO THE THROUGH LANE.
THEY'LL ACTUALLY DIVE INTO THE OPPOSING LANE TO GET AROUND THAT TRAFFIC AND THEN REMERGE INTO THE LEFT TURN LANE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE MEDIAN CURBING.
UM, SO A LOT OF THAT IS, IS AIMED AT REDUCING FRICTION.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOME OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE GAINED WITH THE SOUTHBOUND PROJECT HAD TO DO WITH FRICTION REDUCTION, YOU KNOW, CHANNELING PSS TO CROSSWALKS, REDUCING JAYWALKING, CUTTING OUT LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT WERE HUGE TO INCREASING CAPACITY OF THE ROAD.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOCUSED ON.
SO I I MEAN THIS IS JUST WAY TOO SMALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE.
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IN THE KURT PICTURE, KURT, YOU COULD ZOOM IN ON THE, WITH YOUR ZOOM FUNCTION RIGHT, RIGHT SIDE.SEE THAT'S WHY I GOT JOHN THERE.
SO, SO YOU COULD SEE THE CHANNELIZATION HAS MOVED MUCH FARTHER BACK.
SORRY, ME? YEAH, NO, WHAT THAT, HERE YOU ARE.
WE ACTUALLY AT THREE LANES AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.
YEAH, SO THAT'S THE CHANNELIZATION OF THAT LEFT HAND TURN LANE.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WE'RE GONNA DO MUCH IMPROVED PAVEMENT MARKERS AND THEN ADVANCED SIGNING TO TELL PEOPLE ONCE YOU ENTER HERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN LEFT ONCE THE APPROACH INTO THE INTERSECTION.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING.
BUT WHEN YOU AT THE TINY SCALE AND THEN YOU GET UP TO THE INTERSECTION, ALL YOU SEE IS TWO LANES AND YOU DON'T SEE WHERE THE TWO GO TO ONE IN THE THROUGH SIDE OF THE ROAD.
MY LAST QUESTION IS, ARE YOU ACTUALLY CHANGING THEN THE, THE SIGNALIZATION AT FOREST ROAD? ARE YOU GONNA MAKE PEDESTRIANS WAIT LONGER TO CROSS THE ROAD? IS THAT PART OF THIS? THAT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN.
IT'LL BE, WE CAN EITHER TIME IT, WE CAN HAVE ATCA OR A POLICE OFFICER CONTROL IT, IT, IT EVENTUALLY WITH THE SOFTWARE UPDATE WE CAN DO A FAR MORE ROBUST BECAUSE BASICALLY THE SIGNAL IS OUTDATED AND THE SOFTWARE AND THE HARDWARE WITHIN THE CONTROLLERS ARE ALL OUTDATED.
SO A BIG PART OF THAT IS AN UPDATE OF THE WHOLE FOREST INTERSECTION.
SO YES, THAT'S PART OF OUR LONG PERIOD PLAN.
WE ALSO ARE GONNA ADD A CAMERA SO WE CAN ACTUALLY REMOTE, UM, OB OBSERVE AND THEN CONTROL THE INTERSECTION AS WELL.
UM, SO THESE, THESE ARE ALL TYPE OF THIS, UH, INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC SYSTEMS DESIGNED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE.
SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION THERE.
SO DOES THIS PROJECT STILL INCLUDE RELOCATING THE HISTORY WALK SECTION OF YES.
CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IT WE'RE GETTING WITH THAT AT THIS POINT? 'CAUSE I'VE KIND OF HEARD THAT'S BEEN A VARYING PLAN AS WELL.
YES, THAT ACTUALLY, UM, WAS A BIG PART OF US TRYING TO GET A BID BECAUSE OF THE RETAINING WALL THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THIS, UH, SHARED USE PATH THAT WE'VE ATTACHED IN HERE.
UH, WHICH BASICALLY 'CAUSE WE NEEDED MORE SPACE.
SO BY REMOVING THE SIDEWALK AND THE BICYCLE LANE AND THEN PUTTING A SHARED USE PATH AND THEN OF COURSE ENGAGING STEVE EGNER AND THE UPTOWN GROUP, UM, WAS TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT.
SO WE ADDED MORE COSTS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA PUT A SEATING BENCH, UM, AND THAT RETAINING WALL.
SO WHAT WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY QUOTED WAS THIS MSC WALL.
AND THEN WE, ONCE WE WENT TO THE JOCK WAS LIKE, WELL THIS IS A BIG COSTLY ITEM.
HOW CAN WE REDUCE THIS VALUE ENGINEER THIS? AND THAT'S WHEN, UM, THEY LOOKED AT CANTILEVER WALLS AND WE LEFT THAT UP TO THE TWO JOCK BIDDERS THAT WE HAD.
SO, UM, YES, THE, THOSE ARE GONNA BE IMPROVED AND THEN INCORPORATED.
SO WHERE THE, UM, RETAINING WALL IS, THERE'S ACTUALLY A TWO FOOT OFFSET TO HAVE ACTUALLY PEOPLE TO COME GET OUT OF THE, UH, 10 FOOT SIDEWALK.
IT'S A BI-DIRECTIONAL FLOW AND ACTUALLY ENGAGE, UM, WHATEVER THE, UM, UPTOWN HISTORICAL GROUP, HOW THEY WANT TO UPDATE THAT.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE DONE AT A LATER TIME AS OUR WHOLE POINT WAS TRYING TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT PRIOR TO SPRING BREAK.
SO WE, WE PUT THE, THE INTERPRETIVE SIGNS, WHATEVER THAT'S GONNA BE.
AND I'VE TALKED WITH STEVE, HE'S GOT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
A LOT OF IT IMPROVES WITH LANDSCAPING.
THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPING FUTURE ALONG THE CURB THERE ON VONNER ISLAND, BUT ALL THAT'S GONNA BE FUTURE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, YOU'VE ASKED US TO DELIVER ON CONGESTION AND IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS.
MELISSA, YOU HAVE VICE MAYOR? YEAH, I, I HAD A, I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS TOO BECAUSE FOR FOUR I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT WE HAD HERE WITHOUT GOING BACK TO PRIOR PRESENTATIONS.
WHAT EXACTLY WE WERE GETTING FOR $4.6 MILLION AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT NOW, OR $4.4 MILLION.
SO IT'S COULD YOU JUST, 'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE JUST DID THIS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, THEY WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE COST ITEM, NOT THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THAT, BUT IT WAS IN THE AGENDA BILL.
IT WAS A MEDIAN, A SIDE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS, MEDIANS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A, WE DIDN'T HAVE PICTURES OF WHERE THAT
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WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.SO THE RETAINING WALL IS INCLUDED.
THAT WASN'T CLEAR THAT THAT WAS HELPFUL.
'CAUSE THAT IS A BIG TICKET ITEM.
THAT ENDED UP BEING A BIG TICKET ITEM AND THAT WAS THAT COMPROMISE OF OKAY, KEEP IT AS IT IS.
WE WENT BACK AND FORTH, BUT ONCE WE GOT THE PLAN OUT AND WE GOT LIKE STEVE EGNER AND OTHER UPTOWN AND AS I REACHED OUT TO ALL THE BUSINESSES, THAT WAS A REALLY BIG ASPECT.
AND IF YOU CAN RECALL, I WORKED WITH THE LEIA BURGE TO TRY TO GET A, A STAIRCASE PUT IN THERE WHERE THERE'S A SOCIAL TRAIL THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
AND THEN, UM, ANDY REMIND ME, WE'RE DOING A BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE INCORPORATING A MAINTENANCE PROJECT, WE'RE DONE.
SO IT'S NOT PAINTING OUT OUR RE PAVEMENT PRES PROJECT IS TO MILL OUT ALL THE PAVEMENT NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND AND REPLACE THAT.
IT'S VERY DISTRESSED, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHBOUND LANES.
SO PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PAVE FROM THE PROJECT LIMITS, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE END OF THE ISLAND COMING OUT OF THE Y ALL THE WAY TO THE O AND B ROUNDABOUT AND BACK.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF THE PROJECT.
AND, AND COMBS HAS PROMISED THAT THEY CAN DO THIS, UM, ALL BEFORE OUR DEADLINE, WHICH IS APRIL 1ST MARCH, MARCH 1ST, EXCUSE ME.
AND THAT, THAT TICKET, I THINK THAT'S A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, 400,000.
WAS THAT THE PAVEMENT, THE MILL AND FILL? YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT THREE TO 400,000.
AND JUST IN JUST REAL ROUGH NUMBERS, THE, THE HIGHWAY WORK IS, IT'S ABOUT HALF AND HALF.
THE, THE MSE, THE MECHANICALLY STABILIZED EARTH WALL IS IN THAT, UH, AREA BETWEEN LAVERS, UH, DRIVEWAY AND THE HIGHWAY.
SO YOU CAN APPRECIATE NOT ONLY THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING IN THERE AND DOING THAT, BUT JUST THE SIZE OF THE WALL.
SO IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR THE SUP SHARED USE PATH AND ABOUT HALF AND HALF THE HIGHWAY WORK AND THE OFF HIGHWAY WORK.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE A NICE, UH, CHANGE FROM THE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK THAT'S RIGHT ALONG THE HIGHWAY WHERE WE HAVE THE INTERPRETIVE SIGNS.
NOW IT'S GONNA BE OFFSET, UH, AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY.
IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTRACTIVE.
AND THAT'S THAT COMPROMISE OF US TAKING OUT THE BIKE LANE THAT WAS THERE TO GIVE US MORE SPACE TO ADD THE THREE LANES TO ADD THE ISLAND AND SO ON.
SO TO WORKING IN THE CONFINED SPACE, GOOD NEWS IS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF UTILITIES CONFLICTS IN THIS PROJECT, WHICH WOULD ADD AN EVEN HIGHER COST.
THERE IS ON THAT SLOPE OF BIG NATURAL GAS LINE.
BUT WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH THAT.
SO THERE'S NOT THAT BIG UTILITY LOCATIONS AND SO ON.
AND THEN THE CONTRACTORS ASSURED US THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITHIN THE, UM, FOREST ROAD, UM, UH, INTERSECTION, THE CONTROL BOX.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THE OLD ONE AND PUT A NEW ONE AND ALL THE NEW HARDWARE WILL FIT IN THERE AS WELL.
IT'S MUCH MORE STABLER BECAUSE IT WORKS IN A COOLER ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE LONGEVITY OUTTA THAT, UM, INTERSECTION.
AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA ADD THE LIGHTS, UH, I MEAN A CAMERA TO IT.
SO WE CAN DO TRAFFIC MONITORING.
IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA LOOK DOWN FOREST AND THE INTERSECTION.
SO AS FOREST IS ROAD, POTENTIALLY THE PARKING GARAGE, WE COULD REMOTE MONITOR THAT AT THESE HIGH CONGESTION AREAS TO CONTROL THAT INTERSECTION.
SO THE FOREST ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE ARE NOT IN THIS SCOPE, RIGHT? NO MA'AM.
THE, THE, THE PROJECT LIMITS ARE RIGHT THERE.
IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT AT THAT CROSSWALK AND THEN IT'S ALL PART OF THE NEW MARKINGS AND STRIPING AND SO ON.
SO WHEN THE PROJECT'S DONE, IT'LL LOOK LIKE A BRAND NEW ROAD AND INTERSECTION AND SO ON.
SO, AND THE LANDSCAPING HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND MEET ALL OF OUR STANDARDS.
THERE WON'T BE A BARRIER ON THERE 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING JAYWALKING, BUT IT'S GOING TO ALSO IMPROVE AESTHETICALLY.
AND THEN AS I SAID, MENTIONED THE, WITH THE SHARED USE PATH AND OTHER BUSINESSES INVOLVED, WE ANTICIPATE SOME, UM, LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT SLOPE OR BEHIND THE SITTING WALL OF WHERE THAT MSE WALL.
BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A MAJOR, ANOTHER ATTRACTION FOR UPTOWN TO LET PEOPLE IN THERE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY TO WALK, UH, MORE, UM, PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY THAN, THAN IT'S CURRENTLY.
UH, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE ELIMINATED.
AND HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE STOREFRONTS? WHEN MY ENGAGED WITH EACH OF THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND I DISCUSSED THEM,
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IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IN MY OPINION THAT THEY ALL CAME BACK AND, AND CONFIRMED THAT, UM, FRONT SIDE, UH, DOORWAY PARKING REALLY DOESN'T NECESSITATE IMPROVEMENT TO THEM.AND THEY WERE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, PINK G TOURS, I CAN GO ALL DOWN THE LINE, THE CANDLE, THEY WERE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE IN KNOWING THAT THEY SEE THAT EVERY DAY AND THEIR EMPLOYEES ABOUT PEOPLE WILL PARK AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE WHO JUST WALKS TO THEIR CAR AND TO BACK UP AND CREATE BIG TIME BACKUPS THAT DIDN'T GO INTO THE Y WHICH THEN CREATES, UH, A LEVEL OF SERVICE EVENTS.
KURT, WAS THERE ANY COMMENTS TO YOU ABOUT, WELL, WE'RE GONNA LOSE THIS PARKING, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE PARKING.
NO ONE ON THE ACTUAL ADJACENT LANDOWNERS.
ANDY AND I WORKED WITH OTHER, UM, OTHER UPTOWN BUSINESSES THAT HAD CONCERNS, BUT WE MET WITH THEM IN PERSON.
AND WHEN WE TALKED TO THEM THROUGH, UH, AGAIN, WE LEFT BOTH JOHN AND I, UM, WITH THEM SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
UNDERSTANDING 13 SPACES AREN'T SIGNIFICANT TO WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT NORTHBOUND, UM, FOR ALL THE CONNECTIVITY AND MOBILITY IN UPTOWN.
I KNOW THAT ANDY HAS SOMETHING TO SHARE ABOUT THAT.
SO I, I TALKED TO SOME FOLKS AT ACTUALLY THE UPTOWN PARKING ASSESSMENT, PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETING WHO HAVE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING ADDITIONAL PARKING.
THEIR FEELING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS, WE DO TEND TO LOSE SPACES AS WE MAKE IMPROVEMENT IN THE UPTOWN AREA JUST BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED SPACE THERE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BUILT THE, THE SOUTHBOUND IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDED THE JORDAN ROUNDABOUT, WE DID LOSE SOME SPACES.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, WE, WE LOST, UM, ALMOST 10 SPACES NORTHBOUND, WHICH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS PROJECT THERE WAS, UH, 13 BETWEEN FOREST ROAD AND JORDAN ROUNDABOUT, AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER HANDICAPPED SPACES NORTH OF THE JORDAN ROUNDABOUT.
THIS WILL END UP LEADING TO ONLY HAVING THE TWO HANDICAP SPACES, UH, NORTH OF THE JORDAN ROUNDABOUT.
I KNOW I WAS AT THE SAME MEETING AND I WAS APPROACHED BY ONE SHOP OWNER THAT WAS ADAMANT ABOUT LOSING RIGHT.
AND THERE IS ANOTHER BUSINESS ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM THIS PROJECT THAT IS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING ADDITIONAL SPACES.
UM, SO FOR THE NORTHBOUND CURRENTLY WHERE IT'S STRIPED AND I SEE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME DOING THEIR MANEUVERING, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA TO SHOW ANY, DID YOU DO ANY KIND OF STUDY TO SHOW THAT HOW PREVALENT THAT PROBLEM IS? HMM.
UM, NO, I DON'T HAVE DATA ON THERE, BUT I HAVE ANECDOTAL DATA OF OUR TCAS WHO'VE TALKED DURING, UH, WHO THEY'RE AT THE CROSS RACK RUNNING THERE ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT ANDY SAYS THEY DRIVE IN OPPOSITE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW.
WE PUT UP THOSE DELINEATORS, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE PARK TURN AND DRIVE THROUGH THEM.
UM, YES, IT'S, UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF OBSERVATIONS FROM OUR TCAS.
AND PRIOR TO KURT COMING TO WORKFORCE, KIMLEY HORNE YEARS AGO HAD DONE OBSERVATION AND STUDY IN THE UPTOWN AREA LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS, PEDESTRIAN INTER UH, INTERFERENCE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FRICTION SOURCES FOR TRAFFIC AS, UM, AS IT PASSES THROUGH UPTOWN.
NOW, AS YOU MENTIONED, I DO REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT THAT A WHILE BACK.
UM, SO WOULD THIS PEAK SEE WOULD OF THE MAJOR OR THE MAJOR PINCH POINT FOR THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION COMING DOWN COOKS HILL WHERE TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT TURN DOWN TO ITS LOCK PARK, BUT FOR THOSE GOING STRAIGHT, I MEAN THE, THE Y INTERSECTION WITH THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IS A PROBLEM, BUT ULTIMATELY MOVING UP NORTH IS ALWAYS A BACKUP.
WELL, I SHOULD SAY ALWAYS IT IS A PREVALENT BACKUP.
WOULD THIS FIX THAT OR MITIGATE THAT? I, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE TOTAL CURE OF ALL CURES.
AND THE, AND IT KIMLEY HORN'S VISIT MODELS AND OUR SIM UPDATES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REVISIT THAT AGAIN IN DECEMBER.
BUT YES, IT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT.
LIKE I, I OPENED WITH AMAR LANE, UH, THAT WAS MY PROJECT WHEN I WAS IN JOHN'S POSITION, AND THAT WAS JUST TO TRY TO REDUCE THE PEDESTRIAN FRICTION.
AND THAT JUST TURNING THAT TURN, UH, LOADING ZONE INTO A TURN LANE THAT WAS A 20%, UM, ESTIMATED, TURNED OUT TO BE 18%
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AND THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY FELT.SO THE MORE THAT, UH, THE BUSINESSES AND WORKERS ARE GET USED TO THE MOBILITY AND THE MOVEMENTS, I THINK THIS IMPROVES OVER TIME.
IT'S THOSE VISITORS WHO COME HERE FIRST WHO DON'T KNOW HOW THE TRAFFIC MOVES AND SO ON.
I THINK OVER TIME IT WILL IMPROVE, BUT THEN IT GETS COUNTERED BY JUST THE GROWTH OF VISITATION.
COULD I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING KURT SAID, IT'S THE CUMULATION, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT OF SIM, JUST TO REITERATE THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT'S THE CUMULATION OF OUR PROJECTS.
IT'S THE ACCUMULATION OF THEM THAT LEADS TO THE EFFECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
I'M JUST HOPING IT WE'LL START TO SEE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT.
SO, UH, KURT, WE GO FROM WHAT LEVEL TO WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE, UH, BEFORE THIS PROJECT TO AFTER THIS PROJECT? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MAYOR.
I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT OFF MY HEAD, BUT I WOULD ASSUME, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S A LEVEL F WHEN IT'S AT CONGESTION, RIGHT? WHEN THERE'S GRIDLOCK D IS WHEN THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE MOVEMENT, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, SORRY, WE, WE CAN GO INTO THIS IN MUCH MORE DETAIL IN DECEMBER, BUT I, I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN AUGUST IS THAT WHEN WE IMPLEMENT FOREST ROAD, WE IMPLE IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE, THE PROJECTS DOWN 1 79 PLUS THIS PROJECT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON LEVEL OF SERVICE.
UH, THE HISTORY WALK, DID I HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL BE PHASE TWO, RIGHT? YEAH.
RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT A PROJECT OR DESIGN, UH, RIGHT.
'CAUSE ALL OUR TIME ITS FOCUS IS TO DELIVER THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF THIS PROJECT THAT, THAT OTHER ATTACHMENT WOULD BE THEN WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES OF YEAH.
COME BRINGING A PROJECT TOGETHER.
I MAYOR, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ARE DOING THE SHARED USE PATH.
KURT'S TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, THE, THE HISTORY PLAQUES.
NO, THE PATH IS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
THE SHARED USE PATH IS PART OF THE PROJECT AND WHICH IS, JOHN MENTIONED IT'S ABOUT HALF THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
BUT I, SO WHEN I HEARD THAT WAS PHASE TWO WAS THE PLAQUES ARE PHASE TWO, BUT THE, THE PATH ITSELF WILL BE PART OF THIS PROJECT.
TO CLARIFY AND THERE'S NO, NO, THERE'S NO OFFICIAL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE CLEAR.
THERE'S NO OFFICIAL PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME FOR THE PLAQUES FOR ALL OF THE OTHER, UM, SUGGESTIONS WE HAD.
ONCE WE CAN ACCUMULATE THAT, WE'D BE GLAD TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND PRESENT THAT TO YOU WITH A, WITH A COST.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S TRYING TO GET THIS DELIVERED BEFORE THE SPRING BREAK.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING, EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE GONNA PAVE FROM THIS PROJECT TO OWEN B WAY.
SO NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND ANDY, WASN'T THIS JUST PAVED WITHIN FIVE YEARS? UM, IT WAS, UH, CLOSE TO FIVE YEARS AGO.
BUT NOW THAT WAS WITH WHAT YOU'RE, WELL, THERE WERE LITTLE PIECES DONE.
I REMEMBER THAT YOU, THAT YOU PAVED.
SO I WAS JUST LOOKING AT EARLIER TODAY, IT WAS AROUND 2015 WHEN WE DID THAT, THE PROJECT YOU'RE THINKING OF.
BUT WITH, WITH THE SOUTHBOUND IMPROVEMENTS, THAT WAS MORE RECENT.
BUT THIS, THIS IS VERY NEEDED AT THIS POINT.
WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE LONGEVITY OF THE PAVEMENT IS BECAUSE I, IT'S LIKE, IT WAS YESTERDAY AND I REMEMBER YOU CAME IN WAY UNDER TIME CONSTRAINT LIKE A MONTH EARLY.
AND, AND ONE THING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT KURT HAS SAID AS WELL IS HE'S TALKING ABOUT A MILL AND FILL, WHICH WE'RE GONNA TAKE DOWN A, I ASSUME A COUPLE INCHES, PAVE THAT BACK.
THAT'S A MUCH REDUCED TYPE SCOPE OF PROJECT COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID THAT YOU'RE REMEMBERING IN 2015.
AND WILL THAT PROJECT BE PAVED AT NIGHT? IT ALL DEPENDS ON TEMPERATURES, MAYOR.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING FEBRUARY, UM, THE LAST OF THE PROJECT, SO, YOU KNOW, THE CAVEAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE PAVING TEMPERATURES.
WE DID REACH OUT TO THE CONTRACTOR TO SAY IF NOT, UM, BECAUSE WHAT PLANT'S GONNA BE OPEN, THE VULCAN PLANT ISN'T, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO TRUCK IT FROM PHOENIX.
THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO HAVE INSULATED, UH, TRUCKING COMPANY AND SO ON TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE PAVEMENT TEMPERATURES.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORES BEING IMPACTED DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
THEY, WHETHER IT'S UP IN THE CANYON, WHETHER IT'S UP
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IN THE SWITCHBACKS ABOVE, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT EVERY YEAR I WOULD HATE FOR IT TO BE ON OUR, ON US TO CAUSE ANY KIND OF, UH, LOSS OF BUSINESS.AND WE PREDICTED, UM, AN EL NINO VERY COLD, WET, UH, SPRING WINTER.
SO WE HAVE THE PLANS, IF WE CAN'T DELIVER, WE'LL DO SOME PATCHING, GET US THROUGH SPRING BREAK AND THEN WE'LL READDRESS THIS IN MAY ONCE WE HAVE NICE, NICE WARM HOT TEMPERATURES, MAYBE JUNE, AND THEN WE CAN PAVE IN JUNE.
THOSE ARE ALL OUR ALTERNATIVES AND OPTIONS, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE, WE WORK WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES TO MAKE A LITTLE AS IMPACT AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THIS NEW WALKWAY SHARED USE PAY, THAT WILL BE DONE IN PHASE ONE, CORRECT.
WILL THAT HAVE A CAMERA ON IT? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED A CAMERA FOR THE INTERSECTION, A CAMERA FOR THE PARKING GARAGE PERSPECTIVE, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANYBODY WHO MAY DECIDE TO, YOU'RE PUTTING BENCHES DOWN ON THAT WALKWAY.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ANYBODY WHO DECIDES TO CAMP FOR THE NIGHT.
WELL, THE CAMERA IS A POINT IN ZOOM THAT WILL BE ON THE MAST LOOKING TO FOREST.
WE CAN SEE THAT IF WE CAN HAVE THE, UM, ANGLE TO LOOK, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, 90, MAYBE A HUNDRED DEGREE TURN.
BUT THOSE CAMERAS ARE POINT IN ZOOM AND YOU CAN CONTROL 'EM.
AND ISN'T THIS WALKWAY LOWER THAN THE ROAD? YES, SIR.
HOW FAR LOWER? UM, IF YOU GO BACK, LET ME GO BACK HERE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S AT GRADE, UH, HERE.
SO WHERE IT PICKS UP FROM THE LAIR TURN LANE, IT'S RIGHT AT THE, THE SAME ELEVATION.
AND AS IT MOVES, UH, MOVES FARTHER NORTH, RIGHT ABOUT AT THIS LOCATION.
IT BREAKS DOWN TO GRADE AND THEN IT STARTS SLOWLY.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW ADA OH, I KNOW THAT.
SO IT'LL BE A GENTLE SLOPE AND THEN IT'LL BE AT THE LOWEST POINT, ABOUT 15 FEET BELOW GRADE OF THE CURB.
SO IT'LL BE COMPLETELY HIDDEN.
AND OUR, OUR HOPE IS, IS THEN THE USER WILL BE ABLE TO SIT AND BE AWAY FROM TRAFFIC AND BE LOOKING OVER OAK CREEK.
IF YOU STOOD THERE AND, AND YOU CAN HAVE A DIRECT VIEW OF THE CANOPY, UH, TREES OVER OAK CREEK, UP SCHLEY HILL.
I SEE TONS OF PEOPLE AT THERE IN THE MORNING.
I THINK, UM, WITH TIME WHEN WE GET THOSE PLAQUES AND THE HISTORY WALK BACK UP AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA BE ANOTHER ATTRACTION THAT PEOPLE, AND THAT WAS THE IMPORTANT PART OF HAVING A TWO FOOT, TWO FOOT OFFSET AS PART OF THIS, TO GIVE PEOPLE A RESTING AREA.
YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN SIT ON THE, UH, BENCH OR THEY CAN ACTUALLY SIT OVER THE LOOK AND GET CLOSER THERE FOR VIEWING PHOTOS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
MY ISSUE IS GOING FROM A RESTING TO A SLEEPING AREA AT NIGHTTIME.
AND SINCE IT, THAT WILL BE DOWN BELOW ANYONE'S HEAD.
IS THERE ANY WAY OF HAVING A CAMERA ON THAT? YEAH, LIKE I SAID, SO THAT, I MEAN A DEDICATED CAMERA.
SO AT NIGHTTIME, PD CAN BE ABLE TO JUST TO KEEP A WATCH FOR LINE.
WE, WE WILL WORK WITH THE, OUR CAMERAS HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCESS AND WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE, YEAH, WE CAN PUT ANOTHER CAMERA THAT HAS THAT EAGLE VIEW AND THEN, UM, ALSO TO, TO TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE LANDSCAPED AND SO ON.
SO PART OF THIS IS GONNA HAVE THE SOLAR BALLARDS, SO IT WILL HAVE DARK SKY LIGHTING, SO IT'LL HAVE LIGHTING SO THE CAMERA CAN HOOK UP, UH, THAT AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE COMMITTING TO AN ADDITIONAL CAMERA? YES.
RIGHT? UM, YES, WE, WE CAN VISIT THAT.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY CAMERAS ARE SEPARATE FROM OUR PROJECT, BUT THAT IS SIM 12 A THAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON.
IN FACT, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE GOT A CAMERA UP ON WAYSIDE AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PLANNED CAMERA HERE.
SO WE'RE WORKING OUT THE DETAILS WITH IT TO MAKING SURE THAT IT WORKS WITH OUR SERVER AND THAT WE HAVE A, A GOOD ROBUST PROGRAM.
'CAUSE THAT'S ALL PART OF OUR TRAVEL INFORMATION FOR THE CITIZENS AND OTHERS TO LOOK AT CON UH, CONGESTION AND OKAY.
AROUND TOWN OR WEATHER OR SNOW OR WHATEVER THEY'D LIKE.
BRIAN, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD.
THE, UH, SIGNALIZATION IMPROVEMENTS YOU MENTIONED ARE ATTRACTIVE TO SAY THE LEAST.
WILL THEY BE APPLICABLE TO ALL SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS IN UPTOWN OR JUST AT FOREST? UM, IT'S JUST THE ONE AT FOREST.
UH, BUT, UM, AO JUST THE SIDE INFORMATION I'VE BEEN WORKING AT WITH AO THEN THEY FIND WITH THEIR TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE ALL ALONG STATE ROUTE 89 A ARE BEING CURRENTLY UPDATED.
I WOULD BE WORKING WITH THEM WITH AN IGA TO, UM, ACTUALLY WORK OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.
SO AN EMERGENCY, THE CITY EMERGENCY STAFF PERSONNEL CAN
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ACTUALLY CAN CONTROL THOSE LIGHTS.IT'S ALL PART OF OUR EVACUATION PLAN AS WELL.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT YOU SEE AT JORDAN ROAD IS AN ON DEMAND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
CAN WE GET RID OF THAT AS PART OF THIS? UM, NOT AT THIS TIME.
THE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, OF THE GEORGE ROUNDABOUT, NO, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN WAS TO TRY TO MAKE THAT AS A PED CROSSING AS PART OF SIM IN THE, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, UH, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
DECEMBER, ANDY, DECEMBER CONVERSATION, I'M SORRY, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST NORTH OF THE JORDAN ROUNDABOUT? MM-HMM.
AS KURT SAID, SIM TWO LOOKED AT PUTTING A OVERCROSSING STRUCTURE THERE ULTIMATELY AS A LONG TERM, UH, SOLUTION TO THE PED FRICTION THAT WE HAVE AT THAT LOCATION.
'CAUSE THAT THING IS CLOSE TO BEING LIKE AK TOO.
WELL, LISTEN, SO THE, THE NEW PATHWAY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I AM NOW A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE WHAT PREVENTS SOMEONE FROM SLEEPING ANYWHERE ALONG THAT PATHWAY AND A CAMERA ISN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO SEE THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT.
SO IS THIS REALLY EFFECTIVE TO PUT A CAMERA WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THE BENCHES, BUT I COULD SLEEP ANYWHERE ALONG THAT AND NOT BE SEEN.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT REALLY CONVINCED THAT PUTTING A CAMERA THERE IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT YOU'RE THINKING MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THAT WHOLE WALKWAY.
ASSUMING I'M CORRECT THAT IT'S WIDE ENOUGH THAT IF YOU, IF IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR MANY PEOPLE TO GO BY OR A WHEELCHAIR TO BE ADA COMPLIANT, CERTAINLY IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR ME TO SLEEP ON.
SO THE MINIMUM WIDTH IS 10 FOOT, AND THEN WE HAVE A SEATING BENCH WITH THESE TWO FOOT POCKETS FOR PEOPLE TO INTERPRET.
SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO HAVING A CAMERA WHERE IT CAN LOOK DOWN BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF CAMERA, THE LOCATION AND SO ON.
BUT THE, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING INFRASTRUCTURE PUT IN.
SO PUTTING ANOTHER CAMERA ON SPECIFICALLY TO LOOK AT ENFORCEMENT, UM, THAT WOULDN'T BE A BIG ISSUE.
MY, MY QUESTION THOUGH IS, IS IT AN EFFECTIVE USE? AH, SO IF IT'S, IF, IF WE COULD, IF IT'S HALF A MILE OF 10 FOOT SUP, THEN YOU'RE, THIS CAMERA CAN'T SEE EVERYWHERE IN ORDER TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS DECIDED TO CAMP OUT THERE, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE MANUAL ENFORCEMENT IF WE REALLY THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT FEELS GOOD, BUT ISN'T NECESSARILY THE BEST USE OF OUR MONEY.
UM, I CAN SAY ONCE YOU, UM, ACTIVATE A ZONE AND YOU HAVE LIGHTING AND IT'S OPEN TO PEOPLE, TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT, UH, THAT WANT TO, THEY, THEY'RE THERE FOR A REASON.
USUALLY IF THEY'RE SLEEPING, THEY WANT TO FIND A PLACE DARK THAT THEY'D BE LEFT ALONE OR SO ON.
SO TYPICALLY IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS, IS WHEN YOU ACTIVATE THE ZONE.
THAT, THAT IT'S NOT A PLACE THEY WANT TO HANG OUT.
IT'S USUALLY DARKER ALCOVES AND SO ON.
ADDING TO WHAT MELISSA SAID, I, WE ALL HAVE OTHER SHARED USE PATHS THAT ARE NOT ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE CAMERAS ON THEM.
I I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT GOING DOWN THIS PATH WITH THIS PROJECT FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING IT.
I MEAN, I KNOW, I I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A CONCERN.
I'M SAYING THERE ARE CONCERNS ALL OVER THE CITY WITH PEOPLE SLEEP.
YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER INSISTING ON A SECOND CAMERA THERE MAKES ANY SENSE EITHER SINCE, UH, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A TECHNICAL ISSUE.
SO I, I AM I SORT OF CONCUR WITH COUNCILOR DUNN ON THIS.
WELL, LET ME TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT MY CONCERN IS.
ANY OTHER SHARED USE PATH THAT WE HAVE IS NEAR A ROAD.
WELL, MOSTLY EXCEPT BY THE LIBRARY AND, BUT NORMALLY IT'S ADJACENT TO A ROAD OR HOUSES OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE DEFINITELY, I WOULD HOPE DEFINITELY NOBODY WILL BE SLEEPING ON IT.
THIS IS GONNA BE OUT OF ANYBODY'S VIEW.
IF, IF NOBODY WANTS TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT'S FINE.
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I THINK IT'S GONNA BE OUT OF ANYONE'S VIEW.AND SO I THINK THAT THIS AREA IS DIFFERENT.
IF NOBODY AGREES, THAT'S FINE.
IT WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME
UM, BUT IF NOBODY AGREES WITH IT, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
IT'S A SEATING BENCH WALL, SO IT'S REALLY JUST AN MSE, UH, RETAINING WALL ON THE BACKSIDE.
SO IT'S NOT A REALLY COMFORTABLE PLACE
WHAT IS A SEATING WALL? A SEATING WALL.
JUST IT'S, YOU GOTTA TALK WITH A LONG ISLAND ACCENT LIKE I DO.
OTHERWISE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
UH, ANY OTHER, SO LET'S, WELL, I, I JUST, I WOULD BE DEFICIENT IF I DIDN'T ASK.
THANK KURT CHRISTIANSON FOR ALL HIS TIME AND SUPPORT THAT HE DID IN REVIEWING OUR CONTRACTS AND THE SUPPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
HE'S BEEN REALLY A GREAT, UH, TEAM MEMBER.
AND EVERY TIME WE ASKED, HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND HIS TURNAROUND TIME.
SO THANK YOU KURT, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
UH, SO COMMENTS? STILL HAVE A COMMENT? YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DO HAVE A COPY.
IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? WE'LL GET, I'M GONNA GET THERE.
WELL, WHY DON'T WE GO TO PUBLIC COURT? SURE, WE COULD DO THAT.
UH, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, NO COMMENTS.
WE'RE OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO
I THINK TECHNICALLY IT'S, I'M SO GLAD THERE ARE ENGINEERS IN THIS WORLD.
UM, I, I'VE GOTTA SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS A NON-ENGINEER, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT SIM HAS DONE SO FAR HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY WORTHWHILE AND VERY, VERY POSITIVE IN THE EFFECTS THAT, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE SEEN EFFECTS ALREADY.
IS THERE STILL PROBLEMS? YEAH.
WILL WE HAVE TO KEEP MAKING CHANGES FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE? YES, WE WILL.
AND SO I SUPPORT, I TOTALLY SUPPORT, UM, DOING WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE, TO MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT AND LESS, LESS CLOGS.
I ALSO WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, I ALWAYS THINK OTHER PEOPLE'S JOBS ARE PRETTY EASY AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR, I MEAN, I HEAR YOU HAVE FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR ABILITY TO SORT OF SEE THE PROBLEM, WHICH IS YOU AIN'T GOT NO BIDS.
AND INSTEAD OF SAYING, I AIN'T GOT NO BIDS, THERE'S NOTHING MORE I CAN DO, YOU WORKED AND YOU FOUND, YOU FOUND A WAY TO GET A BID MUCH HIGHER THAN ANYBODY WANTS, BUT THAT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN, AND YOU MADE IT HAPPEN, AND YOU REACHED OUT AND GOT PARTNERS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO CHANGE YOUR, YOUR APPROACH GENERALLY IN ORDER AT THIS TIME IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT AN EASIER PROCESS.
AND I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I, UNDER, I DO UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW CHALLENGING GETTING THESE PROJECTS, ANY OF THEM,
SO I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HERE AND TO THANK YOU FOR THAT, PETE.
YES, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE TEAMWORK TO KEEPING SIM PROJECTS MOVING.
I'M GONNA RESERVE MOST OF MY TIME FOR TOMORROW.
BRIAN, UH, THANKS FOR THE TEAM FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE THAT FEELS MORE TANGIBLE TO ME AS FAR AS LIKE I CAN FORESEE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL COME WITH THIS ONE.
SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS ONE, UH, COME TO FRUITION.
AND I DO THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THE, THE HISTORY WALK SHARED USE PATH HAS BEEN MODIFIED AS PART OF THIS WILL BE OF VALUE.
UM, AND I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD ONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT RESIDENT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN UPTOWN AND, AND ARE TRYING TO GET, UH, INTO THAT PART OF SEDONA.
I SEE THIS BEING A BENEFIT TO THEM AND I HOPE THAT THEY'LL RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN IT'S DONE.
SO, LIKE COUNSELOR FIRM, I'M GONNA RESERVE MOST OF MY COMMENTS FOR TOMORROW.
HOWEVER, UM, THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE
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ANY OF US WHO LIVE IN SEDONA ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHY YOU WANT TO DO THIS.FURTHERMORE, I ACTUALLY REALLY APPRECIATE THE OFFSET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR THE SUP.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WHO HIKE IN, LIKE I OFTEN HIKE IN TO UPTOWN, UM, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO JUST SORT OF NOT BE IN THE GAS FUMES AND NOT BE IN THE NOISE.
AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL STRETCH OF SEDONA THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE.
AND I, AND I THINK HONORING THAT IS, UM, A REALLY WONDERFUL THING.
RIGHT, MAYOR, I'LL BE BRIEF SAVING ALL MY COMMENTS FOR TOMORROW.
UH, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED IN, IN WHAT WE WERE APPROVING TONIGHT, WE'RE USING THESE LINKING AGREEMENTS MORE, AND I THINK THAT IT'S TERRIFIC, UH, AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GET BETTER PRICING AND TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE.
SO I WANTED THE HATS OFF TO YOU FOR THAT.
AND AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS SUBJECT A VICTIM OF JUST THE OTHER DAY, SATURDAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, OF THE MOVEMENT, UM, TO GET TO THE FOREST ROAD INTERSECTION, OH MY GOSH, THIS IS GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD BECAUSE IT'S, THE BARRIER HAS HELPED.
IT REALLY HAS HELPED, UH, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AS WELL AS, UH, A CONCUR WITH, WITH COUNSELOR DUNN.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STRETCH OF SEDONA THAT WILL BE OPENED UP RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT IT, IT ISN'T TODAY.
SO I, I THINK THIS GREAT PROJECT, OKAY, I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
I'LL SUPPORT ANY PROJECT THAT WE'LL DO, WILL, WE'LL REDUCE THE TIE UP THAT WE HAVE.
AND I REALIZE THAT THIS IS A MULTI-PROJECT TO MAKE A WHOLE, SO I I TOTALLY GET IT.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A CAMERA ON THE SHARED USE PATH, I GET IT
AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, NOW IT'S, WE'RE SEEING IT FULL BORE WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT IT HAS TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, I DO HAVE, JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION ON ONE THING.
SO THE UNDERPASS BY OCK WOULD ULTIMATELY TIE INTO THIS SHARED USE PATH, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, BECAUSE THAT, YEAH, BECAUSE WHEN THEY CROSS AND GO UP ON THE, UM, NORTHBOUND SIDE OF 1 79, IT WOULD YES.
MM-HMM,
AND I THINK, UH, UH, BRIAN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO GO TO HOPEFULLY DURING THE DAYTIME SO THEY DON'T SLEEP ON THE BENCH, BUT THAT THEY GO DOWN THERE, MAYBE THEY HAVE THEIR LUNCH AND THEY LOOK OUT AND SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL VIEW.
SO, UH, WELL, AND YOU SHOULD ALL KNOW WHEN I WAS PRESENTING THIS TO ALL THE RESORTS THERE AND SO ON, I MENTIONED THE SHARED USE PATH AND CONNECTIVITY AND SO ON.
I'VE BEEN TASKED TO TALK ABOUT A CREEK SIDEWALK OF EXTENDING THAT ALONG THE CREEK.
AND SO FAR ALL THOSE RESORTS WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD, UM, CORNERSTONE FOR US TO WORK TOWARDS OF WHERE YOU CAN HAVE, UH, PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY ALL IN UPTOWN.
COME TO SEDONA PARK AND WALK EVERYWHERE YOU WANT TO GO AND TRY TO GET OUT OF THIS, UH, CONGESTION.
BUT, UH, I DID BROACH THE SUBJECT WHEN I WAS THERE AND TRY AND NEGOTIATE MOSTLY THAT, UH, STAIRCASE WORKING WITH, UH, LA BURGE ON TRYING TO REMOVE THAT HAZARDOUS, UH, TRAIL.
SO, AND THAT MIGHT STILL HAPPEN.
WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM, UM, AT A LATER DATE.
SO, UM, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE OPEN DUE TO TRY TO MAKE THESE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS EVERYWHERE WE CAN.
YOU SAID IT FAR BETTER THAN I EVER COULD.
I WAS GONNA TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT TOO, BUT THANK YOU.
I'LL TRY TO DO IT IN A JERSEY ACCIDENT.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AWARDING OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO CU CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC.
FOR THE UPTOWN NORTHBOUND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF 4,468,000 OH $58, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
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ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.CAN I, CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, PLEASE? WE'LL TAKE, BUT BEFORE WE TAKE THE BREAK, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CONSULTANTS FROM COMBS CONSTRUCTION.
NO, NO, IT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
OH, THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL, EXCUSE ME.
I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
YOU'RE PRETTY TOUGH LOOKING CROWD THOUGH.
I KNOW, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE SITTING HERE, BUT NOW IT'S THE OTHER CONSULTANT.
LET'S TAKE THAT FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
[8.d. AB 3009 Discussion/possible action regarding approval of linking agreement to contract services from McKinstry Essention LLC, in the approximate amount of $133,400, for the creation of a decarbonization roadmap for municipal operations.]
D, AB 39, UH, 3 0 0 9.DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF LINKING AGREEMENT TO A CONTRACT SERVICES FROM A MC, UH, MCKINSEY ASSERTION ASCENSION, LLC AND THE APPROPRIATE APPROXIMATE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? MCKINSTRY MC.
I'LL HAVE TO WEAR THE GLASSES.
MCKINSEY ASCENSION, LLC IN THE APPROXIMAL AMOUNT OF $133,400 FOR THE CREATION OF A DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL.
UH, PLEASURE TO BE HERE, UH, THIS, UH, TONIGHT, UM, AND TO BRING THIS, UH, PROJECT FORWARD.
SO THIS IS, UH, ACIP, UH, PROJECT THAT WAS, UH, LABELED AS SUS, UH, OR SUS OH THREE FOR DECARBONIZATION ROADMAPS.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING, UH, THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD.
UH, SO THERE'S A, I'LL HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES ON OUR END JUST TO KIND OF PREP THE, THE WORK THAT, UH, WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY THAT'S KIND OF LED TO THIS POINT, AND THEN HAND IT OFF TO OUR, UH, MCKINTRY TEAM HERE TO, TO DISCUSS THE, THE COMPONENTS OF THEIR OPERATIONS AND THEIR TEAM, UH, FOR THIS EFFORT.
UH, SO AS, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY HAD THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM, FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS WITH THE SEDONA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, UH, WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN BEING ADOPTED IN JULY OF 21 AND THE MSP OR THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN BEING CREATED IN 2020.
WHAT BRINGS US HERE, UH, TODAY IS, UH, PRIMARILY TO TRY TO TRACK ALL, UH, SOME OF THESE COMPONENTS OF REDUCE, UH, COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSIONS BY 50%, UH, IMPROVING, UH, RESILIENCE AS WELL AS WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, HAVING THE GOAL OF BEING CARBON NEUTRAL, UH, AND ALSO BEING HEALTHY WORKPLACE, AND ALSO BEING RESILIENT.
SO OUR ROAD MAPPING EFFORTS CAN HELP, UH, BOLSTER THESE EFFORTS IN THESE, THESE FIELDS.
UH, AND SO, UH, KIND OF TO DATE, UH, WE PROVIDE YEARLY, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS, UH, CARBON ACCOUNTING FOR MUNICIPAL AND COMMUNITY-WIDE, UH, SOURCES.
SO THE MUNICIPAL GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES HAVE MORE DIRECT CONTROL.
WE HAVE THE UTILITY INFORMATION, WE HAVE THE BILLING, WE HAVE THE FLEET, UH, COMPONENTS AND ALL OF THAT WITHIN HOUSE THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSION SOURCES ARE RELYING ON MORE LARGE SCALE DATABASES THAT ARE ACCORD WITH AOT OR APS OR UNISOURCE PROVIDING US WITH COMMUNITY DATA.
UH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THOSE, CONDUCTING THOSE YEARLY SINCE, UH, HAD BEEN BROUGHT ON.
AND SO WE'VE HAD, UH, 2018 WAS OUR BASELINE.
AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE 2020 THROUGH 2022 DONE, AND THEN WE'RE GETTING ALL THE STEPS IN TO BE ABLE TO COMPILE 2023, UH, HERE SHORTLY.
AND FROM THOSE EFFORTS THOUGH, WE'VE EMBARKED ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF FOCUSED, UH, ON, UH, BOTH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS INTERNAL OPERATIONS.
SO IN 2022, WE CONDUCTED A INTERNAL, UH, OR INDUSTRIAL ASSESSMENT CENTER AUDIT WITH ASU, UH, THAT GOT US SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, UH, FOR US TO LOOK AT AND IMPLEMENT, UM, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WERE DERIVED FROM, UH, CARBON ACCOUNTING.
UH, AND THOSE INCLUDE THE SOLAR LIGHTING THAT WAS INSTALLED AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK RECENTLY, THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS AGREEMENT WITH APS, UH, THAT WE EMBARKED ON, UH, LAST SEPTEMBER, AS WELL AS, UH, THE CREATION DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOME ENERGY, UH, RETROFIT PROJECT.
AND THEN THE ANTICIPATED, UH, FY 24, UM, CIP PROJECT WITH THE STREET LIGHTS RETROFIT.
UH, AND THEN JUST RECENTLY WE HAD, UH, IN THE SPRING, WE WERE ABLE TO GET UPGRADES TO THE HVAC SYSTEMS OUT AT WASTEWATER.
AND THEN, UH, JUST, UH, UH, THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON UPGRADING THE HVAC CONTROL SYSTEMS AT THE BREWER ROAD OFFICES.
UH, AND SO KIND OF THE, UH, ASPECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THESE FIELDS, UH, AS WELL AS EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THAT YOU'VE SEEN AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK, AND SUNSET PARK, UM, FOR HELPING EXPAND, UH, ACCESS TO THOSE LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN DERIVED FROM THESE EFFORTS.
UH, PRIOR TO, UH, ME COMING ON HERE WITH THE, THE CITY OF SEDONA, UH, THE CITY, CITY ENTERED INTO A, A MID-STATE, UH, VERGE, OR NOW IT'S NOW IT'S VERGE.
IT WAS A MID-STATE ENERGY CONTRACT THAT ALSO DID SOME UPGRADE WORK TO LIGHTING SYSTEMS IN HVAC HERE IN, UH, 2019.
UH, AND SO THE GOAL IS TO TAKE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, ALL OF THESE EFFORTS, AND TO BE ABLE TO COMPILE IT AS A BASE FOR HOW WE CREATE A, UH, ROADMAP FOR DECARBONIZATION TO REACH THOSE GOALS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CAP, AS WELL AS THE MSP.
AND SO, JUST KIND OF A, A QUICK OVERVIEW.
UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE,
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UH, BUT OUR 2022 MUNICIPAL, UH, EMISSIONS ESTIMATE WAS RIGHT AROUND 2000, UH, METRIC TONS OF CO TWO EQUIVALENTS.UH, THE KIT BROKEN DOWN INTO SCOPES.
UH, FOR THIS PROJECT WE'RE PRE PREDOMINANTLY LOOKING AT SCOPES ONE AND TWO, WHICH ARE, UH, THIS, UH, MORE ORANGE-ISH COLOR, AND THEN THIS KIND OF LIKE PURPLE BROWN COLOR HERE.
UH, THAT'S TAKE UP THE VAST BULK OF OUR, UH, EMISSIONS ESTIMATE FOR, UH, MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
UH, AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT IS 'CAUSE WE HAVE A MORE DIRECT CONTROL OF THOSE, UH, COMPONENTS.
IT'S LIKE OUR FLEET VEHICLES, IT'S OUR GAS USAGE, IT'S OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE OPERATE, UH, IN AND OUT ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND THEN SCOPE TWO IS, UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, PURCHASE OF ELECTRICITY.
UH, AND THEN SCOPE THREE IS, UH, A MUCH, UH, WIDER SCOPE RANGE, UH, FOR THE ONES THAT, UH, WE'VE ESTIMATED, UH, FOR THE, THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS PREDOMINANTLY BEEN, UM, EMPLOYEE COMMUTING AS WELL AS WASTE.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNALLY ON HOW TO GET THOSE, UH, SECTIONS SET UP FOR THE SCOPE THREE OR STRATEGIES FOR HOW TO REDUCE THOSE.
UH, BUT IN TOTAL, IN SCOPE THREE, THERE'S OVER 15 CATEGORIES THAT, THAT ARE IN SCOPE THREE.
AND SO, UH, TO EMBARK ON THAT ONE WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF OUTSIDE OUR DIRECT CONTROL, UH, AND INCLUDES THINGS LIKE UPSTREAM, UH, CAPITAL, UH, PURCHASES TO INVESTMENTS TO LEASE PRO, UH, ASSETS AND FACILITIES, UH, THAT IS, UH, MUCH MORE IN THE HANDS OF THE PERSON THAT'S OPERATING THAT THAT IS, UH, ULTIMATELY GETTING TO US.
SO IT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF OUR DIRECT CONTROL, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO HELP US WITH THIS DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
AND SO, AS, UH, THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE GONE BY, UM, AND AS PREVI AS WE'VE PRESENTED PREVIOUS COUNCIL, UH, WE HAD THIS, UH, KIND OF NEEDS KIND OF POP UP AS WE WENT THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT HOW, WHAT'S THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE LONG TERM.
ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP IS JUST HOW MUCH IS THIS GONNA COST? UH, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT? WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE? AS WELL AS SOME OF THE, UH, CONSTRAINTS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AS WELL.
SO, UH, SOME OF THOSE NEEDS INCLUDE THE, THE ROAD MAPPING FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING TO GIVE US A PICTURE OF, OF HOW WE CAN GET TO THAT PATHWAY, UH, EV INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSITION ANALYSIS, UH, ELECTRIFICATION AND NATURAL GAS SYSTEMS TO GET US OFF OF, UH, THAT EMISSION SOURCE, UH, EVALUATION OF ONSITE RENEWABLES TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN BRING ON BATTERY STORAGE.
SO THAT'S A, A RENEWABLES AND BATTERY STORAGE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A, UH, A GRID SHUTDOWN DOWN WITH APS DO WE HAVE SERVICES ON CITY SITE THAT ARE ABLE TO KIND OF POWER THE OPERATIONS SO WE CAN STILL PROVIDE SERVICES, UH, AND STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A SOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT BUILDS A RESILIENCE PIECE THERE, AS WELL AS ANALYZING WHAT NEEDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CURRENTLY BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, TO HOW IT IS ABLE TO, UH, ENCO ENCOMPASS THIS NEW DEMAND, UH, AS WE'RE BRINGING ON MORE ELECTRICS, WHAT IS THAT ELECTRICAL DEMAND TO THE BUILDINGS AND HOW WE CAN, UH, KIND OF COMPENSATE A PLAN FOR THAT.
UH, AND THEN AS WELL AS MENTIONED, TRYING TO IDENTIFY FUNDING PATHWAYS, INCLUDING, UH, INFLATION REDUCTION ACT OPPORTUNITIES AND OTHER GRANT FUNDING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, SOURCE TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THE DIRECT CAPITAL COSTS OF IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING, UH, TO ADDRESS OUTSIDE OF THE NEEDS IS JUST, IT HELPS INFORM MUNICIPAL AND COMMUNITY GREENHOUSE GAS, UH, EMISSIONS INVENTORIES.
UH, SO IF THERE'S A NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CONSTRUCT OR WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT, UH, AN EFFORT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THIS EFFORT IS HELPS INFORM US AND, AND PROVIDES EDUCATION RESOURCES THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND COM DEV TEAM ON HOW WE CAN KIND OF, UH, ADJUST THINGS AS WE GO TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE MORE OF THESE ELEMENTS INTO FUTURE PROJECTS, UH, AS WELL AS PROVIDE THAT FINANCIAL OVERVIEW OF THE FINANCIAL NEEDS AND THEN, UH, REDUCES OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FROM MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
SO WHILE THAT, UH, 2000, UH, METRIC TON TOTAL, UH, CAN KIND OF SEEM, UH, KIND OF SMALL IN COMPARISON TO THE COMMUNITY WIDE EMISSIONS, UH, THAT, UH, RANGES ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 152,000 TO A HUNDRED AND, UH, 62 I THINK WAS, WAS WHERE OUR BASELINE WAS AT, UH, THAT COMPONENT OF, UH, US DRIVING THIS DOWN, WE'RE HAVING, UH, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE MORE EFFICIENT, BUILDINGS THAT ARE MORE TIMELY BEING, BEING ABLE TO REDUCE, UH, TAILPIPE EMISSIONS FROM THE VEHICLES AND THE LIKE.
AND SO, UH, KIND OF LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND REDUCING OUR COMPONENT OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT IS BEING SEEN, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I MIGHT HAVE ALL SEEN RECENTLY THAT, UH, THE FIFTH NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT JUST CAME OUT THIS LAST WEEK.
UH, AND THE, UH, THE GENERAL TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT IS THAT, UH, MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THIS FIELD TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN EMISSIONS, TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE THAT ARE BEING SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY TODAY.
UH, AND SO I THINK THIS ROADMAP CAN HELP US GET, UH, IN THAT DIRECTION AND BE ABLE TO SET US UP, UH, SO THAT WE DON'T, UH, GO SPRINTING INTO A PROJECT WHERE, UH, IT'S, WE'RE UNAWARE OF THE COSTS OR WE'RE UNAWARE OF THE, THE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE WITHIN IT, UH, AS WELL AS BEING MINDFUL OF JUST HOW WE PLAN THESE THINGS, UH, WITHIN MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
AND SO THE GOAL WITHIN THE PROPOSAL, AS I MENTIONED, IS KIND OF TACKLE THOSE DECARBONIZATION STRATEGIES
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FOR G-G-G-H-G EMISSIONS SCOPE ONE AND TWO, SINCE THOSE ARE MORE UNDER OUR DIRECT CONTROL AND ABILITY TO, UH, INFLUENCE AND THEN PROVIDE THAT BENEFIT AND COST ANALYSIS, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, PATHWAYS FOR CAPITAL PLANNING AND FINANCE.AND SO THIS, UH, PROJECT AS, UH MENTIONED IS ESTIMATED COST TOTAL OF $133,400.
UH, IT WAS ACIP PROJECT FOR THE FY 24.
AND WE'RE, UH, LOOKING TO UTILIZE THE PROCUREMENT, UH, THROUGH THE CITY OF TUCSON SAFE PURCHASING CO-OP.
SO IT ALLOWS US, UH, TO, UH, DIRECTLY, UH, WORK WITH, UH, COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT BID PRO SELECTIVE AND COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS FOR THAT, UH, PURCHASING CO-OP FOR ENERGY MANAGEMENT AND CONSULTING SERVICES.
UH, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT OPTION.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO THE MCKINSTRY TEAM TO KINDA INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND GO OVER, UH, VARIOUS ASPECTS, UH, OF THE, THE PLANNING PROCESS ON THEIR ENDS AS WELL.
BRYCE, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR PRESENTATION JUST NOW, OR DO YOU WANNA JUST WAIT UNTIL EVERYTHING'S DONE? UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I CAN TRY TO ANSWER 'EM NOW.
HOW DO YOU FEEL IT'LL BE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD? I'LL WAIT.
WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I'M EXCITED TO FINALLY GET A CHANCE TO PRESENT, UM, THIS PROPOSAL TO YOU ALL.
UM, WE'RE REALLY JAZZED ABOUT IT.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WORKING WITH, UH, BRYCE AND HIS TEAM, WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOUR SUSTAINABLE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM IS AWESOME.
UM, AND IT'S REFRESHING TO WORK WITH, UM, PROFESSIONALS, UH, LIKE BRYCE.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH JUST QUICK INTRODUCTIONS FOR THE TEAM.
UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT OUR COMPANY A LITTLE BIT SO YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR, FOLLOWED BY, UM, BRAD WHO'S GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR EXPERTISE IN, UH, DECARBONIZATION PLANNING.
AND THEN FINALLY, MIKE WILL CAP OFF, UH, WITH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
SO STARTING WITH MYSELF, UM, MY NAME'S RACHER DAVIS.
I'M AN ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE WITH MCKINSTRY.
I HAVE BEEN WITH MCKINSTRY FOR EIGHT YEAR, OR ACTUALLY JUST OVER NINE YEARS.
UH, AND MY FOCUS IS WORKING WITH MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
UM, I HAVE BEEN WITH, UH, IN THE INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS OVERALL, ACTUALLY SPENT, UH, A LOT OF THAT TIME DEVELOPING, UH, ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECTS.
UM, I, I AM A MECHANICAL ENGINEER BY DEGREE.
UM, SO SOME PEOPLE SAY I'M A RECOVERING ENGINEER.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THAT.
BUT IN ANY CASE, UM, I REALLY ENJOY BEING ABLE TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH.
AND SO, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS, IS ACTUALLY PART OF MY, MY PASSION MYSELF.
UM, I THINK FOR OVERALL, YOU KNOW, BRYCE MIGHT BE A LITTLE, UH, GENEROUS WITH THE TEAM LEAD, UH, TITLE THERE, BUT I LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS A LIAISON, UH, BETWEEN MCKINSTRY AND THE CITY OF SEDONA.
UH, THINK OF ME AS A GENERAL NON-TECHNICAL CATCHALL, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR AT LEAST GET, GET YOU TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, UM, ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH, UH, POTENTIAL FINANCE FUNDING AND OR CONTRACTS.
UM, I'LL BE THE PERSON THAT WILL BE HELPING YOU ALL OUT THERE.
UH, MY NAME'S BRAD QUIST, AND, UH, I LEAD, UH, MCKINSEY'S DEEP DECARBONIZATION EFFORTS, UM, WITHIN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
SO WE HAVE, UH, 25 OFFICES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE A VERY STRONG OFFICE IN PHOENIX.
AND, UM, SO I INTERACT WITH PROJECTS THAT ARE REALLY WHERE WE HAVE JURISDICTIONS, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO TAKE THE CLIMATE CHALLENGE SERIOUSLY AND REALLY GET AFTER THEIR, UM, DECARBONIZATION, UM, AGGRESSIVELY.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
UM, I'VE BEEN AT MCKINSTRY ABOUT FIVE YEARS, PRETTY MUCH JUST WORKING ON ZERO CARBON AND DECARBONIZATION TYPE PROJECTS.
UM, BEFORE I JOINED MCKINSTRY, I ACTUALLY RAN THE ENERGY AND CARBON PROGRAM FOR THE LIVING FUTURE INSTITUTE, WHICH, UH, RUNS THE LIVING BUILDING CHALLENGE.
IT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE DEEP GREEN CERTIFICATION SYSTEM, KIND OF A DEEPER VERSION OF LEAD.
UM, AND THEN BEFORE THAT, I ACTUALLY DEVELOPED, UM, WHAT WAS THE FIRST ZERO ENERGY COMMUNITY CERTIFIED IN THE UNITED STATES, A PROJECT CALLED Z HOME.
UM, SO I'M, UH, DEEPLY PASSIONATE AND FRANKLY, DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CLIMATE.
AND, UM, IT'S REALLY A CALLING FOR ME.
UH, AND I'M REALLY JUST, UH, PRI PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE, UM, KNOWING THAT, UH, SEDONAS REALLY, UH, TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
UH, MY NAME IS MIKE GROSS, AND I'M ACTUALLY A PROJECT DIRECTOR OUT OF OUR PHOENIX OFFICE HERE WITH MCKINSTRY.
UM, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SALES, THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF OUR PROJECTS.
SO I KIND OF SIT OVER ALL OF OUR PROJECT MANAGERS AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECT AS THE CUSTOMER SEES FIT, WE'RE MEETING YOUR EXPECTATIONS,
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AND WE'RE ALSO GETTING CREATIVE AND INTUITIVE WITH OUR PROJECTS.WE'RE NOT JUST GIVING OUR CUSTOMERS THE BOILERPLATE STANDARD DESIGN THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING.
WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY CUSTOMIZE OUR DESIGNS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND DELIVER ON THE SUSTAINABILITY RESULTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS, AND THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MCKINSTRY.
UH, SO WE ARE A NATIONAL LEADER IN DESIGNING, BUILDING, OPERATING, AND MAINTAINING HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDINGS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1960, UH, ORIGINALLY, UH, ESTABLISHED IN SEATTLE AND STILL HEADQUARTERED THERE.
UM, OVER THE LAST 60 PLUS YEARS, WE HAVE GROWN TO 2200 EMPLOYEES, UH, AROUND, UH, AT 26 OFFICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UH, WE FOCUS JUST INSIDE, UM, THE US SO WE DON'T GO OUTSIDE IN, UM, INTERNATIONAL.
UM, OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED HERE IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
WE'RE KIND OF NORTH PHOENIX AREA.
UM, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, 10 YEARS NOW.
UM, BUT THE FOCUS HERE IS REALLY LOOKING AT PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND SERVICES AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING LIFECYCLE.
UM, SO OUR ENERGY EXPERTS REALLY CAN COME IN AND WE COME IN ON THE DESIGN PLANT DESIGN SIDE UP FRONT, UH, WITH DECARBONIZATION PLANNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UH, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND THEN FOLLOWING UP TO ENSURE THAT, UH, YOUR FACILITIES ARE OPERATING AS EFFICIENTLY AND AS, UM, EXPECTED, UM, TO TALK ABOUT OUR VALUES.
'CAUSE WE REALLY FIND THAT TO BE IMPORTANT.
UM, KIND OF CORE, CORE TENANTS, IF YOU WILL, OF OUR COMPANY.
UM, IT IS PUTTING PEOPLE FIRST.
UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT WE DO HIRE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANET PASSIONATE, WHO, WHO ARE HIGHLY SKILLED, UM, SINCE WE ARE PRIVATELY HELD, THAT THERE IS KIND OF LIKE A, A, IT'S A LARGER COMPANY, BUT IT'S STILL KINDA A SMALL FEEL, IF YOU WILL.
UM, OUR FOCUS WHEN WE PARTNER WITH CLIENTS IS TO DEVELOP LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIPS AND BE A TRUSTED PARTNER.
UM, AND SO HENCE THE WHOLE BUILDING LIFE CYCLE.
WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF YOUR NEEDS AT ONCE, AS OPPOSED TO GIVING YOU CANNED SOLUTIONS.
UM, WE DO AS, AS, AS BRAD SAID, UM, WE DO HAVE A PASSION ABOUT MAKING A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE.
SO FEELING GOOD ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
I MEAN, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? TO, AS YOU GET UP IN THE MORNING, AND, UH, TALKING ABOUT CONSTANTLY CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, BRAD WILL TALK ABOUT ONE OF OUR, UH, PROJECTS AND I THINK THAT'LL HIGHLIGHT HOW WE INVEST AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS.
BUT OVERALL, AS A, AS A COMPANY, OUR 2025 STRATEGY IS LOOKING AT DIRECTLY FACING THE CLIMATE THREAT.
AND WE LOOK AT THAT IN A WAY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AFFORDABLY AND EQUITABLY.
AND WE TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT IN, INTO ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
UM, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE CITIES WE SERVE.
THIS IS NOT THE EXTENSIVE LIST, BUT, UM, I THINK AS YOU COULD SEE, UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ABOUT LOCAL HERE IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
BUT, UH, NO, WE ALSO, UM, HAVE, UH, UH, PARTNERS OR, OR INTERESTS IN WORKING, UH, IN ADDITION TO MUNICIPALITIES.
WE WORK WITH UNIVERSITIES, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
SO WE DO SPAN THE GAMUT, BUT A VERY EXTENSIVE, UH, EXPERIENCE IN THE MUNICIPAL SPACE, UM, HERE LOCALLY, UM, TO NAME A FEW.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE TOWN OF PAYSON, UM, BOTH WITH THE TOWN AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HAVE BEEN PARTNERED WITH THEM.
UM, SO SMALL TO RURAL, ALL THE WAY UP TO LARGER, UH, ENTITIES SUCH AS CITY OF PHOENIX, ASU, UM, CITY OF GLENDALE.
UM, SO WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH SMALL AND LARGE RURAL AND, UH, AND, AND, UM, UH, MORE OF THAT, NO, WHAT AM I SAYING? THE, THE BIGGER CITIES.
UM, SO THE OTHER THING HERE TOO, UM, WE REALLY DO ALSO LIKE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THERE'S JUST A PICTURE, THIS IS KIND OF A PERSONAL NOTE IF YOU WILL.
UM, THIS IS A, A PICTURE OF OUR TEAM THAT WAS SERVING AT THE PSS WOOD PEAK, UH, TRAILHEAD.
SO THIS IS PART OF A PARK CLEANUP, UM, UM, SITUATION HERE.
WE REALLY ARE, AGAIN, INVESTED IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S AGAIN, JUST PART OF, UH, THE, THE CORE OF OUR, OUR COMPANY OVERALL.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO, UH, BRAD.
UM, I'M GONNA TALK FIRST, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS THE LAST OF, UH, US TALKING ABOUT MCKINSTRY.
AND WE'LL START TALKING ABOUT THE SCOPE AND THE, AND THE WORK THAT WE'LL BE, UM, DOING FOR YOU ALL.
BUT, UM, THIS IS A PROJECT ACTUALLY THAT, UH, MCKINSTRY SELF-DEVELOPED.
UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY A SMALL DEVELOPMENT ARM AT MCKINSTRY, AND IT'S SOLELY DEDICATED TO BUILDING, UH, FULLY DECARBONIZED ZERO CARBON INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILDINGS.
UM, AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A BUILDING THAT WE WANTED TO REALLY, UH, EXEMPLIFY WHAT WE THINK GOOD LOOKS LIKE.
SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, WHAT WILL BE ONE OF THE LARGEST ZERO ENERGY AND ZERO CARBON BUILDINGS IN THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT IN SPOKANE, WASHINGTON.
UM, IT IS, UH, NOW THE HOME OF THE EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY STEM PROGRAM,
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UH, AS WELL AS, UH, AN INNOVATION CENTER AROUND STEM TYPE OF ACTIVITIES, UM, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR, UM, UH, MCKINSTRY SPOKANE OFFICE.UM, THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY NOT A STANDALONE, IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A LARGER, WHAT WE CALL AN ECODISTRICT, WHERE, UM, WE BUILT A, BASICALLY A FULLY DECARBONIZED, FULLY ELECTRIFIED CAMPUS THAT THEN CAN BE RENEWABLY POWERED.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE BOTH ON ONSITE AND OFFSITE RENEWABLES, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THIS WAS A PROJECT I, I ACTUALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THE DESIGN PROCESS OF THE ZERO CARBON ELEMENTS.
UH, AND THAT'S NOW UP AND RUNNING.
AND IT'S, UM, DEFINITELY, UH, A PROJECT THAT IS CATALYZING SERVING ITS FUNCTION, WHICH IS TO CATALYZE, UM, ZERO CARBON ACTION.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THESE IN YOUR PACKET.
AND OBVIOUSLY, OR I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THESE IN DETAIL.
UM, BUT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT WE DO WORK IN, IN THREE MAIN SECTORS WHEN IT COMES TO DECARBONIZATION.
WE DO WORK ON NEW CONSTRUCTION DESIGN.
UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHERE THE INDUSTRY HAS BEEN IS FOCUSING ON TRYING TO DECARBONIZE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
'CAUSE FRANKLY, IT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT INCREASINGLY WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON EXISTING BUILDINGS.
UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE PRACTICE THAT, THAT THE THREE OF US ARE, ARE MOST FOCUSED ON IS, IS REALLY, RATHER THAN WE'RE NOT GONNA TEAR DOWN AN ENTIRE, UM, PORTFOLIO OF MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO, UM, REALLY FOCUS ON HOW TO DECARBONIZE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
AND THEN WE ALSO DO WORK ON THE DISTRICT ENERGY SCALE AS WELL.
I DO WANNA JUST MENTION WE HAVE, UM, UH, KIND OF OUR INTERNAL BRAND IS CALLED ZERO PLUS.
AND I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT HERE.
UM, IT'S, IT, WHAT WE FIND WITH DECARBONIZATION IS THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT A $500,000 PARK AND $5 MILLION ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, DECARBONIZATION IS AN EXTENSIVE ACTIVITY.
IT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT GETS YOU INTO, UM, A LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT FROM ALL THE FACILITIES, UH, NOT JUST FINANCIALLY, BUT PROGRAMMATICALLY.
AND SO REALLY THE, THE KIND OF SENSIBILITY WE BRING TO DECARBONIZATION IS THAT IT CAN'T BE A STANDALONE ACTIVITY HAS TO BE AN ACTIVITY THAT'S CONNECTED TO ALL THE OTHER PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES THAT THE CITY HAS.
AND SO, UM, THE PLUS FOR US IS KIND OF WHATEVER OUR CLIENT'S OTHER PRIORITIES ARE AND MAKING THE PROBLEM REALLY BIGGER THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY HALL, I THINK IT'S THE CITY HALL HAS COOLING ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD, UM, LOOK AT IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UM, DECARBONIZATION, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, I THINK YOU CAN GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE 'CAUSE I'M GONNA GO INTO MORE DETAILS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, UM, TARGET THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, UM, FOR ALL OF SEDONA ACTUALLY WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FROM A BIG PICTURE STANDPOINT? AND THE NEXT FEW SLIDES I'M GONNA SHARE ARE PRETTY BIG PICTURE SLIDES.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE ISN'T GONNA BE A LOT OF DETAILED WORK THAT BUTTRESSES THAT, UM, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE KIND OF EXPLAINING FROM A BIG PICTURE STANDPOINT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEE THE PATHWAY GENERALLY BEING.
SO ACTUALLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ANIMATED.
WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND JUST CLICK THROUGH IT.
I THINK IT'LL JUST BE EASIER, BRYCE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT DECARBONIZATION, IT INCLUDES A WHOLE BUNCH OF ELEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE IN, UH, REALLY LOOKED AT HOLISTICALLY.
SO THE FIRST ELEMENT IS REALLY REDUCING WHAT'S CALLED EMBODIED CARBON.
SO EMBODIED CARBON IS THE CARBON THAT'S INVOLVED WITH, UM, IN THE ACT OF CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING.
SO WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW BUILDING, THERE'S A LOT OF CO TWO, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S SUBMITTED IN THE, UH, CONCRETE, UM, THE EMBODIED CARBON AND THINGS LIKE STEEL.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ENERGY IN CARBON THAT GOES INTO THAT.
WHAT IS REALLY GREAT ABOUT, I MEAN, I, I THINK AN UNLIKELY OUTCOME OF A DECARBONIZATION PLAN IS GONNA BE THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU TEAR DOWN ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE SCOPE AND REBUILD THEM WITH FANCY NEW ZERO CARBON BUILDINGS.
THAT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF RESOURCES.
AND IT ALSO ADDRESSES THIS EMBODIED CARBON ISSUE BY, BY REALLY TARGETING OUR DECARBONIZATION EFFORTS ON EMBODIED ON, ON EXISTING BUILDINGS, THAT REALLY HELPS US CHECK THAT BOX EFFICIENCY.
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ANOTHER REALLY KEY THING.THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THESE EFFORTS IN THE PAST HAVE INVOLVED, BUT NOW WE'RE REALLY, UM, AND THAT WILL OFTEN GET YOU TO A REDUCTION IN A CARBON FOOTPRINT OF MAYBE 10 OR 20%, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA GET YOU ALL THE WAY.
UM, THEN WE START TO GET INTO SOME OF THE BIGGER PLAYS.
ONE OF THEM IS STARTING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR FACILITIES CAN BE POWERED WITH A RENEWABLE SOURCE OF ENERGY.
AND TYPICALLY WE CALL THAT ELECTRIFICATION 'CAUSE THAT IS THE PATHWAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, ACHIEVE.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, MOVE THINGS TO BEING FULLY ELECTRIC AND THEN POWERING THOSE ELECTRIFIED FACILITIES WITH RENEWABLE SOURCES OF ENERGY.
AND THE FINAL THING IS, UM, THEN IDENTIFYING THOSE SOURCES OF RENEW RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY.
UM, AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE FIND WORKS WELL IS, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY CLIENTS IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH ONSITE OR SELF-OWNED RENEWABLES AS WELL AS PURCHASED FROM THE UTILITY AND OTHER SOURCES.
AND, AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE IN MORE DETAIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, ONE INTERESTING JUST FACTOID THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THESE DAYS IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, UM, WHICH HAS A VERY MAJOR SOLAR INCENTIVE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IT'S, THAT'S NOW AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC ENTITIES, UH, USED TO ONLY BE AVAILABLE TO PRIVATE ENTITIES, THAT THE MINIMUM INCENTIVE, DIRECT PAY INCENTIVE IS 25% OF THE COST OF THE RENEWABLES, AND IT CAN ACTUALLY GO UP HIGHER FROM THAT DEPENDING ON CERTAIN SITE CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT IF YOU TAKE THE TOTAL COST OF THOSE RENEWABLES AND APPLY THEM OVER THE LIFE OF THE FACILITY, UM, OR OF THE RENEW OF THE SOLAR PANELS, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY LESS EXPENSIVE ON A PER KWH BASIS, UM, THAN JUST BUYING POWER FROM THE, THE UTILITY, WHICH IS REALLY QUITE REMARKABLE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S REALLY CHANGING HOW A LOT OF FOLKS LOOK AT THIS WORK.
UM, WHY DON'T WE KEEP GOING? I, ER SAID I WOULD TALK, TALK A LOT, SO I SHOULD
UM, UM, SO I JUST WANNA TALK A LITTLE, MIKE'S GONNA TALK IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS, BUT I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHERE WE VIEW SEDONA BEING AT THE CITY OF SEDONA AS AN, AS AN ENTITY BEING AT, ON YOUR, UM, KIND OF DECARBONIZATION JOURNEY.
UM, AND I REALIZE I'VE REALIZED SINCE THEN THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT MISSING BULLETS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU HAVE DONE BOTH SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE ACTION PLANS.
THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WAS A HIGH LEVEL PLAN FOR THE CITY OPERATIONS, QUITE HIGH LEVEL.
UM, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WAS A COMMUNITY-WIDE PLAN.
UM, THE REALITY ALSO IS, IS YOU'VE DONE A NUMBER OF REALLY GREAT THINGS TO START TO REDUCE YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY INCLUDE THOSE, UM, KIND OF WORK TO DATE, UM, IN OUR ROADMAP.
I THINK WHERE THE CITY IS AT RIGHT NOW IS THE KIND OF THE MIDDLE POINT THAT WE OFTEN SEE FOLKS BEING AT, WHERE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS YOU WANT TO VALIDATE YOUR, UM, GOAL, UM, AND YOU NEED TO REALLY GET A CONTEXT OF WHAT DOES THE ROAD AHEAD REALLY LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO, UM, AND, AND IT'S GENERALLY A GOOD THING TO DO THAT BEFORE JUST LAUNCHING INTO STARTING TO SPEND THE BIG MONEY, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTUAL WORK.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN OUR, UM, PLAN AND OUR FULL SCOPE IS, IS IN THE, UM, IS IN YOUR PACKETS.
YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL FACILITY AND COMING UP WITH AN INDIVI INDIVIDUALIZED RECOMMENDATION FOR, AT A, AT WHAT I'D CALL A, A SCHEMATIC LEVEL, THE BEST WAY TO DECARBONIZE EACH BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL BE, UM, DOING ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE PRICING OF WHAT THAT'LL COST TO DO THAT WORK.
THAT'S USUALLY ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, YOU KNOW, 30% PLUS OR MINUS, MINUS.
SO IT'S VERY BROAD, UM, BUT IT AT LEAST STARTS TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW BIG THE BREAD BOX IS.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE, IT, WE THINK IT THEN MAKES SENSE TO, TO START DOING, DOING THE WORK.
UM, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND I CAN EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME MORE EXAMPLES.
WE'RE REALLY, UM, BIG BELIEVERS IN, UM, YOU HAVE TO MEMORIZE THIS AND, AND REPEAT IT.
I'M GLAD THAT THAT, THAT YOU'RE MAKING IT CLEARER
IS IS THAT CLEAR OR LESS CLEAR? NO.
SO, YOU KNOW, ON THIS IS WHAT'S CALLED A SANKY DIAGRAM.
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BASICALLY YOUR SOURCES OF EMISSIONS FROM ELECTRICITY THAT, AND BY THE WAY, I'M SORRY, THIS IS A SAMPLE DIAGRAM.SO THIS IS WORK THAT WE DID FOR A DIFFERENT CLIENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE, THE SORT OF HIGH LEVEL, UM, GRAPHICS THAT WE, UM, PUT TOGETHER.
UM, SO IN THE, IN THE CASE OF THIS CLIENT, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY A SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, ROCKY MOUNTAIN, LARGE, ROCKY MOUNTAIN SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, UH, 57% OF THE EMISSIONS CAME FROM THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF ELECTRICITY.
AND THEN 43% CAME FROM, UM, FOSSIL FUEL BURNING, UH, IN THIS CASE JUST ON SITE.
AND THEN ON THE LEFT, UM, WE ACTUALLY THEN BROKE THAT OUT BY THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS.
JUST A KIND OF A HELPFUL GRAPHIC TO, TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT, UM, SO YOU KNOW, ANOTHER WAY OF, OF LOOKING AT THIS BIG PICTURE, UM, AND, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SAME CLIENT AND I, I THINK WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER SIMILAR GRAPHICS, UM, JUST TO HELP ENCAPSULATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE OVER TIME.
UM, WITH DECARBONIZATION, IN THIS CASE, THE CLIENT HAD NATURAL GAS EMISSIONS AT ABOUT EIGHT, 8,000 TONS, AND THEN THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF ELECTRICITY CO TWO AT 20,000.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THAT CLIENT.
AND ESSENTIALLY BIG PICTURE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DECREASE FOSSIL FUEL USE ON SITE AND THEN INCREASE, UM, RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY, UM, IN TERMS OF ACQUISITION, UM, AND THEN DETAILING OUT HOW WE'RE DOING THAT.
THIS IS MORE OF A ROLLUP DIAGRAM, UM, THAT GETS INTO THE, INTO THE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GETTING YOU TOWARDS MORE OF A SUMMARY ROADMAP OF ACTIVITIES.
SO, UM, IN THIS CASE, UM, THIS CLIENT, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR LEWISVILLE, COLORADO, UM, ONE OF THE CITIES THAT PRETTY HORRIBLY BURNED DURING THOSE WINTER FIRES UP IN, UH, THE FRONT RANGE UP IN COLORADO, UM, TWO, TWO DECEMBERS AGO.
UM, THIS IS A PLAN THAT, THAT WE RECENTLY COMPLETED FOR THEM.
AND SO WE IDENTIFIED BASICALLY SHORT, MID, AND LONG TERM, UM, IMPROVEMENT DECARBONIZATION FOR THEM TO PURSUE.
UM, AND WE BROKE THAT OUT BY EFFICIENCY MEASURES, MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT, FLEET, AND BUILDINGS.
NOW AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY A SUMMARY DIAGRAM AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF TECHNICAL DETAIL DOWN TO AN INDIVIDUAL MEASURE LEVEL, UM, THAT TRIES TO EXEMPLIFY OR THAT THAT OUTLINES HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY ACHIEVING THAT DECARBONIZATION.
SO EACH BUILDING HAS ITS OWN RENEWABLE PLAN, IT HAS ITS OWN ELECTRIFICATION PLAN AND ITS OWN EFFICIENCY PLAN.
SO THE ACTUAL REPORT IS QUITE LONG AND, AND ROLLS UP TO PROBABLY WELL OVER A HUNDRED PAGES.
SO, UM, GO AHEAD AND NEXT SLIDE BRYCE.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF, UM, OF LOOKING AT THIS, AND I'M GONNA GRAB THE MOUSE JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT CERTAIN THINGS.
SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICT CLIENTS, SO DIFFERENT CLIENT, UM, BUT I WOULD SEE US DOING A SIMILAR TYPE OF A, A GRAPH WHERE, OR, UM, DISPLAY WHERE WE GROUP, UM, DIFFERENT DECARBONIZATION CLUSTERS.
THIS IS, UM, ACTUALLY WORK THAT THEY HAD JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED, THEN WORK, UM, FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND, AND SO ON.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ESSENTIALLY THIS, THIS, UM, MIMICS OR MIRRORS THAT EARLIER ARROW CHART THAT I SHOWED YOU CONCEPTUALLY, BUT THIS IS THE ACTUAL PATH FOR THEM TO GET TO ZERO CARBON.
SO THE LIGHT GREEN ON TOP EXEMPLIFIES ELECTRICITY EFFICIENCY THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AS WELL AS ELECTRIFICATION IN THE DARK GREEN, UM, SLOWLY GETTING US TO A, A STATE THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE POWERED WITH RENEWABLE SOURCES.
AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM, UM, THIS IS BASICALLY MOVING WHAT'S THEIR CURRENT DIRTY ELECTRICITY OVER TO CLEAN ELECTRICITY.
UM, A BIG CHUNK OF THAT IS EARLY ON, UM, WE ACTUALLY DID A HUGE LED LIGHTING RETROFIT, WHICH REALLY REDUCED JUST THEIR OVERALL DEMAND OF ELECTRICITY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, MOVING ON TO, UH, ACTUAL ONSITE RENEWABLES HERE.
UM, AND IN THIS CASE WITH THIS CLIENT, UM, THEY ARE GONNA BE PURCHASING A LITTLE BIT OF OFFSITE POWER, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THIS CLIENT AND IN THIS UTILITY ZONE, UH, WITH THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE, IT MADE SENSE.
UM, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD BE THE LEAST COST WAY FOR THEM TO ACHIEVE ALL RENEWABLE POWER WAS, UM,
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BY BUILDING IT THEMSELVES SO THEY HAVE THE SPACE TO DO IT.SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OFF TO MIKE.
SO, UM, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXECUTION OF THIS PLAN IN OUR LOCAL OFFICE HERE IN PHOENIX.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT WE'VE FOUND OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS DOING DECARBONIZATION ROADMAPS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS IS THAT PLANNING IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL ASPECT OF THESE, UH, IMPLEMENTATIONS.
THE MORE YOU PLAN, THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR CAPITAL MEASURES ARE, THE THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE SPENDING YEAR BY YEAR, THE BETTER YOU CAN ORGANIZE THOSE REPLACEMENTS TO MINIMIZE YOUR COST OVER TIME.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, GENERALLY WHEN CAPITAL REPLACEMENTS ARE DONE ON BIG HVAC SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDINGS, THEY'RE DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
YOU KNOW, A CHILLER FAILS, YOU REPLACE THE CHILLER BOILER FAILS, YOU REPLACE THE BOILER.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS, WE LOOK AT THIS ON A SYSTEM LEVEL.
SO WE LOOK AT THE COOLING SYSTEM, WE LOOK AT THE HEATING SYSTEM, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THOSE REPLACEMENT YEARS SO THAT YOU CAN UPDATE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WITH A MORE EFFICIENT ELECTRIFIED SYSTEM RATHER THAN KIND OF PIECEMEAL ALL OF YOUR REPLACEMENTS OVER TIME.
AND THAT'LL SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IS YOU CAN COMBINE HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS TOGETHER WITH THINGS LIKE AIR SOURCE HEAT PUMPS, GROUND SOURCE SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE YOUR OVERALL CAPITAL EXPENDITURE ON THAT SYSTEM BY COMBINING THEM INTO MULTIPLE SYSTEMS. UM, SO WHAT I HAVE HERE ON THE SLIDE IS BASICALLY OUR PLAN IN TERMS OF TIMELINE OF HOW WE'RE GONNA EXECUTE THIS WITH THE CITY.
SO, UM, KIND OF GOING INTO THE FIRST MONTH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE DATA.
WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING ALL OF YOUR UTILITY DATA, ALL OF YOUR BUILDING DATA.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING INTERVIEWS WITH YOUR FACILITY STAFF TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE BUILDINGS ARE USED AND HOW THEY CAN BE IMPROVED.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE ANALYZING THAT DATA BACK IN OUR OFFICE, TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO REALLY REDUCE THOSE, UH, ELECTRICITY USAGES AS WELL AS THE FOSSIL FUEL USAGES.
UM, SO KIND OF MOVING INTO THE SECOND MONTH OF THIS PLAN, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GONNA START DEVELOPING THESE DECARBONIZATION MEASURES.
SO WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY YOUR SYSTEMS, IDENTIFY YOUR EQUIPMENT, AND THROUGH THAT FIND THE BEST SOLUTION FOR AN ELECTRIFIED REPLACEMENT.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPONENTS HERE OF THIS IS THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA BE DONE IN ISOLATION.
WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH BRYCE AND, AND STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU HEARING WHAT YOU GUYS NEED AND PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION THAT MEETS THOSE NEEDS ALONG WITH YOUR DECARBONIZATION AND ELECTRIFICATION GOALS.
UM, BEYOND THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE GOING INTO PUTTING TOGETHER THE PACKAGES FOR ACTUALLY SIZING UP THIS DECARBONIZATION FROM BOTH AN ENERGY SAVINGS PERSPECTIVE AND A COST PERSPECTIVE.
NOT JUST FROM A FIRST COST PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM A LIFECYCLE COST PERSPECTIVE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT INSTALLING THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NOT JUST THE CHEAPEST TO INSTALL, BUT HAS LOWER LIFECYCLE COSTS OVER THE LIFECYCLE.
UM, AND THEN KIND OF MOVING INTO THE, UH, THE FINALITY OF THAT REPORT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE SELECTING THE DECARBONIZATION MEASURES WITH THE CITY AND THEN PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS TO HELP YOU IMPLEMENT YOUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU GUYS, AS BRAD SAID, TO NOT JUST HIT THE ENERGY AND THE DECARBONIZATION GOALS, BUT ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THE FRINGE BENEFITS OF THESE DECARBONIZATION RETROFITS FOR YOUR FACILITIES.
UM, IMPROVED AIR QUALITY, UM, BETTER LIGHTING, POTENTIALLY IN SOME SPACES, BETTER CONTROL OF TEMPERATURE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE MORE ENGAGED IN THE SPACES THAT YOU GUYS RUN AND MANAGE.
UM, AND THEN OVER TIME THE PLAN IS TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO REALLY IMPLEMENT THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING A PLAN TOGETHER, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THIS INTO ACTION AND CREATING A, A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR THE FOLKS HERE IN SEDONA.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S, UH, ALL THE SLIDES THAT WE HAD FOR YOU.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PLEASE ASK.
I DON'T HAVE VERY MANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
I I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE TWO THINGS YOU DO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DECARBONIZATION, UM, IS ENERGY AND FUEL.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EXCLUSIVELY WHAT YOU DEAL WITH.
THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF DECARBONIZATION.
I JUST, I MEAN NO, IT'S A REALLY, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK IN TERMS OF REALLY
SO IT'S PRETTY, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND IT'S VERY, I MEAN IT'S SIMPLE IN TERMS OF I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
'CAUSE DECARBONIZATION, IT'S A BIG WORD AND UH,
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FOR IF YOU LOOK AT ME IT COULD MEAN ANYTHING.I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION.
PETE, I'M SURE YOU HAVE A LITANY, HAVE QUESTIONS, NOT A LITANY.
I REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR BRYCE.
UH, ON PAGE PEGA, PAGE 200, I THINK YOU HAVE A BULLET THAT TALKS ABOUT THE DEVELOP THE IMPLEMENTABLE PILOT PROJECT.
MM-HMM,
SO I KIND OF TAKE FROM THAT IS ONCE THE ROADMAP IS DONE, IS THAT THEN WORK PILOT PROJECT, MAYBE WITH THEIR ASSISTANCE YOU'RE GONNA PICK A PILOT PROJECT AND SORT OF SUBSEQUENTLY MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD? IS THAT YOUR, WHAT'S THE PILOT PROJECT? YES, THAT'D BE COOL.
WHO DOES IT
'CAUSE WE WOULD BE WANTING TO, UH, UNCOVER THAT DURING THIS ROAD MAPPING, UH, PIECE.
UH, AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THAT COMPONENT, BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONE IS MORE APPLICABLE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON EARLIER.
UH, AND THEN IDEALLY, UH, FINDING WAYS TO WORK WITH MCKINSTRY AND THE LIKE, TO BE ABLE TO BRING ON AND IMPLEMENT THAT PROJECT SO, UH, THAT, UH, WE'D HAVE THAT PARTNER TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH US ON MULTIPLE PROJECTS SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO JUMP AROUND AND HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT VENDORS AND THE LIKE, IF WE'RE ABLE TO, TO KIND OF KEEP THAT, UM, AS, AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITHIN THE CONFINES THAT WE HAVE THEM.
YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
UH, IS MCKINSTRY IN YOUR WORK ON A PILOT PROJECT INCLUDED IN THIS SCOPE OR IS THAT BEYOND? SO THE COST OF THAT PILOT PROJECT, UM, WOULD THEN BE, UH, DEVELOPED AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT.
SO THIS WOULD JUST BE TO GET THEIR DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP, RIGHT? THE COST OF THE IMPLEMENTABLE PILOT PROJECT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AT A LATER DATE.
SO WHEN READING THE PACKET, I HAD HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
YOU'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THEM IN YOUR PRESENTATION, SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I THANK YOU FOR, UM, UH, REALLY SORT OF A, A CLEAR, UM, YOUR, UH, WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? WHAT'S IT TITLE? THE, THE, WELL THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT ALSO THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU PUT IN THERE.
I APPRECIATED THOSE BEING ENUMERATED OUT.
AND I HAD A QUESTION THOUGH, UH, REGARDING THE EXCLUSIONS, WHICH IS WHAT IS, I'M SORRY.
AND IF YOU SAID IT AND I MISSED IT, I'M SORRY, BUT WHAT IS COMFORT ANALYSIS? YEAH, I CAN JUMP ON THIS ONE.
UM, SO COMFORT ANALYSIS IS GENERALLY, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE SPACES, YOUR HVAC TECHS, YOUR MAINTENANCE TECHS, THEY'LL GET HOT AND COLD CALLS.
SO THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE IN A SPACE, HEY, IT'S TOO HOT IN HERE, WE NEED TO DIAL THE TEMPERATURE BACK.
SO GENERALLY THAT, THAT IS JUST CONTROLLING THE TEMPERATURE TO A, TO A DEGREE TO WHERE THE OCCUPANTS ARE VERY COMFORTABLE IN THAT.
THAT POINT SEEMS PRETTY SIMPLE FOR IT.
UM, I THINK ANYTHING ELSE I HAVE WILL BE IN COMMENTS.
IF I CAN JUST ADD, I, I THINK AT A HIGH LEVEL, BECAUSE OF WHAT, UH, WE WERE SAYING ABOUT TRYING TO TAKE A HOLISTIC, UH, VIEW OF CITY FACILITIES, WE DO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT KEY COMFORT ISSUES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN FOLD THAT AT LEAST INTO OUR KIND OF SCHEMATIC EVALUATION IN PARTICULAR, LIKE IF WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A REAL VENTILATION ISSUE FOR EXAMPLE, OR WE HAVE BUILDINGS WITHOUT COOLING, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WANT TO ADD COOLING.
I'M NOT SAYING, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, BUT, UM, THAT WE WOULD DO THAT LEVEL OF ASSESSMENT.
A COMFORT STUDY IS MORE LIKE A MORE DETAILED, LIKE, OKAY, THIS POCKET OF THE OFFICE GETS TOO HOT, THIS POCKET GETS TOO COLD, WHICH REALLY TAKES YOU INTO WHAT WOULD BE THE, I WOULD THINK OF AS THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY DESIGNING A SYSTEM TO, UM, MAKE IT FUNCTION, THE BUILDING TO FUNCTION BETTER.
SO THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OUTLINES A 50% REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND THAT PLAN DETAILS OUT HOW TO GET HALFWAY THERE, AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS A PLUG HOPING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA FIGURE IT OUT AND GET US THE REST OF THE WAY THERE.
IF WE HIRE MCKINSTRY HERE, UM, ARE THEY HELPING US FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE REST OF THE WAY THERE? UH, OR IS IT JUST TO GET THE HALFWAY THERE THAT WE THINK WE ALREADY KNEW HOW TO GET THERE AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR OTHERS FOR A HAIL MARY TO GET US TO OUR GOAL? SO, UH, MCKINTRY, UH, IS PREDOMINANTLY FOCUSED ON OUR INTERNAL MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS WILL BE ABLE TO INFORM US ON HOW, UH, BUSINESSES AND
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THE LIKE, THAT ARE HAVING SIMILAR COMPONENTS AND HOW WE CAN EDUCATE AND PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE OF LIKE, THESE ARE THE, THE STRUGGLES THAT WE HAD INTERNALLY.AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE SAME PATH, HERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GO DOWN YOUR DECARBONIZATION EFFORT.
UH, THERE IS MOVEMENT, UM, THAT, UH, IS COMING AT THE STATE LEVEL ON CREATING A STATE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UM, AND THERE'S, UH, COMPONENTS FOR DEVELOPING LIKE A PRIORITY ACTION ITEM LIST.
UM, THAT, UH, ANYONE THAT'S TRYING TO DEVELOP A IMPLEMENTATION GRANT HAS TO ESSENTIALLY REFERENCE SOMETHING BACK TO THE PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION LIST THAT'S AT THE STATE LEVEL.
UH, AND SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE, UH, NEEDING, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE STATE, WITH APS, WITH THE UNISOURCE, UH, AND OUR UTILITY PROVIDERS TO HELP US GET TO MORE OF THAT COMMUNITY BROAD BASE.
UH, AND SO I'VE, UH, I'VE HAD SOME OVERAGES TO, UM, TO APS ON TRYING TO GET SOME DISCUSSIONS GOING ON WHAT OPTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO GET A MORE OF A BROADER IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK ON THOSE EFFORTS, BUT, UH, IT, I THINK THE SCALE OF THIS IS JUST THAT THERE ARE SO MANY, UH, PEOPLE AND PLAYERS THAT NEED TO BE A PART OF THIS, THAT IF WE DON'T, UH, KIND OF FOOT BE ABLE TO TRY TO TAKE OFF CHUNKS WITHIN OUR OWN OPERATIONS, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO THEN GO TO A BUSINESS, TO A RESIDENT AND SAY, PARTICIPATE IN THIS WITH US WHEN WE'RE NOT DOING IT OURSELVES.
AND SO I THINK PART OF IT IS US LEADING BY THAT WAY AND THEN BEING ABLE TO LEARN FROM THOSE THINGS AND BE ABLE TO SHARE AND KIND OF BUILD THAT CAPACITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS, UH, AT LARGE AND THEN BRINGING IN OUR UTILITY PARTNERS AND THE LIKE TO TRY TO HELP SPUR ADDITIONAL MOVEMENT IN THOSE AREAS.
BUT I'M STILL GONNA ASK MY QUESTION.
ARE THEY GETTING US A PLAN TO GET ALL THE WAY TO THE 50% REDUCTION OR ONLY THE 50% OF THE 50% THAT WE'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT WE HAD A PATHWAY TO GETTING TO THIS ROADMAP IS FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
SO IT COVERS, UH, IT DOES NOT COVER THE COMMUNITY-WIDE 50%.
AND IF ELECTRIFICATION, GETTING OFF OF FOSSIL FUEL USE AT THE FACILITY LEVEL IS SORT OF, UH, A GENERALLY HELD, UH, APPROPRIATE STRATEGY, WHAT IS IT THAT ULTIMATELY, NO OFFENSE, WHAT IS IT THAT THESE GUYS KNOW THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ALREADY? SO WHAT IS IT THAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE PARTY THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM COULDN'T ALREADY COME UP WITH TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO ELECTRIFY THINGS LIKE THAT'S AND YOU KNOW, HELP ME OUT HERE.
THEY'RE BRINGING, UH, SCHEMATIC SKILLS ON THE INNER WORKINGS OF HOW TO GET THESE FACILITIES TO GET THERE.
I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO ELECTRIFY, BUT I DON'T KNOW BUILDING PLANS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES ON ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF THOSE ENGINEERING TEAMS TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE.
AND WITH THE, THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE CITY, I WOULD BE, UH, HESITANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT LOAD ON OUR, UH, COM DEV AND ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAMS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT WITH US.
I CAN GET YOU CARBON ACCOUNTING, BUT I CAN'T GET YOU TO THAT NEXT STEP ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON A PER BUILDING BASIS ON HOW THAT BUILDING FUNCTIONS TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT GOAL.
I CAN GET YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE, WHAT THE PROJECTS WE NEED WITHIN THOSE AREAS, BUT MCKINSTRY IS ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT EXPERTISE KNOWLEDGE ON WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THESE BUILDINGS TO BE AS MOST EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE AND TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN A MANNER THAT IS ALSO TO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE, UH, FINANCIALLY HOW WE CAN BRING THOSE ON IN A TIMELY MANNER, UH, VERSUS DEDICATING STAFF THAT IS ULTIMATELY TRYING TO IMPLEMENT COMMUNITY SCALE PROJECTS LIKE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, PROGRAM ZERO WASTE EVENTS, AND THE LIKE, THAT WOULD THEN PULL THEM OFF OF THAT TO GO THROUGH THIS, UH, ROAD MAPPING EFFORT.
BRYCE, COULD, COULD I MAYBE ADD A COUPLE OF POINTS POSSIBLY, JUST 'CAUSE BRYCE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PLAN.
I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THEY BRING AS WELL IS THESE ROADMAPS FROM OTHER ENTITIES.
YOU SHOWED A PAGE FULL OF, OF DIFFERENT CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS THAT YOU'VE HELPED TO BUILD THESE ROADMAPS WITH.
I THINK BRYCE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES AND ROADMAPS, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.
AND ONE, ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO PURSUE AN ELECTRIC FLEET AND WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ROADMAP RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
WE KNOW WE CAN BUY MORE VEHICLES, BUT EVERY TIME WE DO, WE FIGURE OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD STRATEGY FOR HOW TO CHARGE THEM AND YOU KNOW, OR SERVICE THEM.
SO I, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS AROUND SOLAR, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE GOOD ROADMAPS FOR AND WE NEED ASSISTANCE FROM, FROM YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
IS THAT FAIR? DOES THAT HELP? IT DOES.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED MORE.
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MELISSA, I THINK I'M GONNA RESTATE BRIAN'S QUESTION THAT AS I UNDERSTOOD IT.SO, SO BRYCE, THE, THE GOAL WAS TO REDUCE IN MUNICIPAL GREENHOUSE GAS 50 BY 50% BY 2030.
ARE WE GOING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT HERE WITH, WITH THESE GUYS? SO THERE'S UH, TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
SO THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN SETS COMMUNITY-WIDE, 50%.
THAT WOULD BE, UH, SHOOTING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS IN THE MSP, THE CLIMATE ACTION IS 50% FOR COMMUNITY.
BUT ARE WE GOING TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT THROUGH THE HELP WITH THE HELP OF THESE GUYS? I SEE HEADS NODDING ON THEIR SIDE.
I JUST WANT THE COMFORT OF KNOWING THAT YOU AGREE THAT WE'RE, WE WERE MUNICIPAL, WE CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE DO THINGS IN THE BROADER COMMUNITY THAT'S UP TO THEM.
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR CONTROLS.
SO ARE WE GOING TO GET TO OUR GOAL OF BEING A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON NEUTRAL WITH THE HELP OF THESE GUYS? WITH NICK COUNTRY'S HELP? I BELIEVE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET ON THAT PATH TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT NEUTRAL.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A ROADMAP AND THEN MCKINSTRY HAS THE SKILLS TO HELP US TO IMPLEMENT THE ROADMAP.
SO ASSUMING THAT WE ALL LIKE WORKING TOGETHER, UH, THERE'LL BE FUTURE WORK BECAUSE YOUR SKILLS EXCEED ROADMAP DEVELOPMENT AND YOU CAN IMPLEMENT, ASSUMING WE AGREE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL OF THAT, THE WORK FOR US.
UH, THE MCKINTRY IS ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH THAT ROAD ROADMAPPING SURFACE, UH, SERVICE.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A, A NUMBER OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED AND BUILT AND, AND OVERSEEN, UH, WITHIN THEIR OPERATIONS.
UH, SO WHEN IT, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL NOT JUST BE A ONE OFF WITH MCKINTRY TO BUILD THAT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH WOULD BE A GOOD THING, I THINK.
AND SO WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE DECISION PACKAGE COME BEFORE US FOR THE FY 25 BUDGET CYCLE THAT WOULD HAVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE DONE.
'CAUSE IT'S A 10 WEEK PROJECT.
AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DETERMINE FOR STARTING JULY 1ST, WHAT WE COULD DO TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE SELECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
I DIDN'T KNOW FOLLOWING UP TO YEAH, TO VICE TO THE POINTS.
WELL, THE POINTS THAT WERE RAISED OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE, THE OH, OKAY.
OR DO YOU WANNA GO FIRST? I'LL GO RIGHT AHEAD.
SO IN, I'M FOLLOWING THE SAME PATH THAT WAS ORIGINALLY RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FOLTZ AND SUBSEQUENTLY ABOUT END PRODUCT AND WHERE WE END UP.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WE'RE PIGGYBACKING ON THE CONTRACT WITH TUCSON.
SO WHAT WAS THEIR END RESULT SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT? DID THEY, DID, DID WHAT WAS PRODUCED, DID IT REACH THEIR GOAL? WAS THEIR GOAL A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON NEUTRALITY FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS? CAN YOU TELL US, SINCE WE'RE MODELING THAT AGREEMENT, WHAT WAS THAT? SO THAT WE CAN SORT OF JUMP TO A POTENTIAL CONCLUSION? UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CITY OF, UH, TUCSON SAVE CONTRACT IS KIND OF LIKE A, A, A VERY BROAD, UH, PURCHASING COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT THAT, UH, IS OFTEN TACKLED LIKE, UH, ENERGY SERVICE CONTRACT, UH, COMPONENTS AND THE LIKE.
SO I'M UNAWARE OF A CITY OF TUCSON HAVING A DISTINCT CARB DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP.
IT'S JUST THE EFFORTS WITH THE CONSULTING SERVICES FIT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THAT SAVE, UH, SAVE CO-OP WITH THE CITY OF TUCSON.
SO THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU WORK WITH, YOU, YOU HAD TWO EXAMPLES UP IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
WHAT WAS THEIR, AND WAS WHAT WAS THEIR END RESULT? WHAT WAS INITIALLY SOUGHT WAS THEIR END RESULT IN THE ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL.
I CAN ANSWER THAT 'CAUSE I WORKED ON BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, SO THE FIRST ONE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, CLIENT, UM, THEIR TAR, THEY HAD A TWOFOLD TARGET.
THEY WANTED, AND THIS IS NOT, THIS IS ORGANIZATIONALLY NOT, UM, WELL IT'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THAT ONE IS, IS ORGANIZATIONAL.
THEY WANTED TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY.
AND THEN THEIR SECONDARY GOAL WAS THEY WANTED TO BE FULLY DECARBONIZED BY 2040.
AND SO OUR ROADMAP, UM, UH, ADDRESSED
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GETTING THEM ALL THE WAY THERE BY 2040.UM, THE, UH, LEWISVILLE, THEIR TARGET IS, WAS FULL DECARBONIZATION BY 2030.
UM, AND PART OF OUR SCOPE WAS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE THOUGHT THE GOAL MADE SENSE OR NOT.
UM, OUR FEELING WAS IS THAT BASED ON, ON WHAT MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT THEIR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT CYCLE, MOST HVAC SYSTEMS LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS, LOTS OF ROOF REPLACEMENTS.
YOU DON'T WANNA DO SOLAR GENERALLY WITH, YOU WANNA DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ROOF REPLACEMENT.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY COSTLY TO DO IT MIDSTREAM.
UM, A 20 YEAR HORIZON IS MUCH BETTER AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO ASSIST UP WITH THE EXISTING CAPITAL FACILITY REPLACEMENT CYCLE.
AND SO IN THAT CASE WITH LEWISVILLE, WE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY EXTEND THEIR GOAL TO 2040, UH, WHICH THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY FORMALLY DID.
AND IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, I INCLUDED ON OUR SLIDE TALKING ABOUT YOUR 50% REDUCTION.
WE ARE AWARE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY A, A COMMUNITY-WIDE GOAL.
UM, WE DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY PRESUME ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THAT YOU WANT TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE OR LESS AGGRESSIVE.
OUR JOB IS TO HELP YOU MEET THE GOALS AND THEN IF YOU WANNA RECOMMENDATION ON, ON WHETHER YOU SHOULD ADJUST THEM, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.
THE ONE LAST QUICK THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY, UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALSO OBVIOUSLY A GOAL.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SUCH A BROAD TERM THAT ALSO TYPICALLY INCLUDES, UM, BUYING CARBON OFFSETS THAT, UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY IN A LOT OF WAYS.
SO LET'S DROP IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT INTO A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO, INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT FOR WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR BUILDINGS HERE.
YOU MENTIONED COMFORT LEVEL AND I COULD TELL YOU CLOSE FIRSTHAND, OUR COMFORT LEVEL STINKS AND NOT JUST, I THINK YOU MENTIONED, UH, HEAT OR AC IT'S BOTH.
AND I JUST, I'M WONDERING, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE WITHIN FIVE YEARS, SEVEN YEARS, WE REPLACED THE UNITS ON THE ROOF BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO DO ON A LOWER SCALE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
NOTHING TO THIS MAGNITUDE, NOTHING AS IMPRESSIVE AS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
BUT WE JUST SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO DO NEW UNITS ON THE ROOF.
AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THIS BUILDING, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REPLACE THE DUCTS.
WE DIDN'T REPLACE THE DAMPERS.
WE DON'T HAVE SEPARATE, UH, THERMOSTATS.
AND I FAILED TO UNDERSTAND NOW THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
SO I'M A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE, JUST A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE WHEN WE'RE GONNA TRY SUPPOSED TO, UH, SAVE SOME ENERGY AND WE HAVE PEOPLE USING AIR CONDITIONING, BUT THEY'RE SO COLD AND THEY CAN'T CONTROL IT.
THEY'RE USING HEATERS, SPACE HEATERS AND ALMOST, I WOULD, I DON'T SAY ALL BUT MANY OF THE OFFICERS.
SO THAT'S NOT REALLY HELPING, UH, TAKE IT THE OTHER END.
IT IT, LET'S JUST SAY IT DOESN'T WORK.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? YOU'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A REPORT, MAKE SUGGESTIONS, YOU'RE GONNA RIP EVERYTHING OUT OF THESE BUILDINGS THEORETICALLY AND CHANGE TO SOMETHING BETTER AS OPPOSED TO THE EUROPEAN UNITS, WHICH BRYCE SHOWED US IN ONE OF THE GRAPHICS WITHOUT WASTEWATER THAT YOU HAD, UH, ON ONE OF THE GRAPHICS ON THE WALL.
OR IS THAT YOUR BUILDING WAY IN THE BEGINNING? DOUGLAS
IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, WHICH I WOULD SUPPORT.
I MEAN, I'LL SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO.
I JUST WANNA TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO AND HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET THERE.
SO IS A UNIT LIKE THAT IN EVERY ROOM, SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND WHERE EACH PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL THEIR OWN HEAT AIR CONDITIONING? WHICH TO ME MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE DAMPERS REALLY WORK JUST TO MY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING OR, OR COULD POSSIBLY RECOMMEND IN THE FUTURE? MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST STEP IN, THIS IS THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WANNA GET, I WANNA KNOW WHAT, WHAT I CAN EXPECT TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO, I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES, UM, IN THE COMPLEX HERE SPECIFICALLY.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT INSIGHT AND MAKE SURE THOSE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH ANY FINDINGS OR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, AND I WOULD UNDER, THEY DID SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO, TO THE STAFF
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AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.I'M JUST TRYING TO KNOW TO WHAT LEVEL.
I DON'T THINK THEY CAN KNOW THAT NOW UNTIL THEY START TO ASSESS THE FACILITIES.
I I'M NOT SURE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT AT THIS POINT.
SO LET'S GO WITH VEHICLES AND SUPPLIES.
ANDY TOUCHED ON THAT AND WE KNOW SUPPLY CHAIN IS A PROBLEM, SO, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ULTIMATELY, BUT HOW FAR OUT ARE YOU GOING TO, DO YOU THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE? I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS THE PLANNING HORIZON.
'CAUSE WE HAVE THIS 2030 TARGET AND THEN THE 2040 TARGET.
UM, I WILL SAY MOST CLIENTS ARE GRAVITATING AROUND KIND OF A 20, 40, UH, TIMEFRAME.
THAT ANSWERS, IT'S NOT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, UH, FIVE YEARS, SEVEN YEARS.
UH, SO COMMENTS, WELL, BEFORE WE DO COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE AUDIENCE, THERE'S NOBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
THERE'S PEOPLE WATCHING, THERE'S NOBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO NOW COMMENTS FROM THE, THE COUNCIL START SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I'M GONNA TRY AND CHANNEL PEGGY FOR A SECOND, SEE IF I CAN DO IT.
UM, PEGGY, PEGGY, OH, SHE'S HIDING.
SO WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE WHAT, WHAT WE OWN, BUILDINGS, VEHICLES, THAT SORT OF THING.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE BROADER COMMUNITY, THERE ARE THINGS WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, PEGGY PROBABLY WOULD'VE BROUGHT UP OUR FAVORITE TOPIC OF ALL TIME, WHICH IS ROADS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE PUT DOWN REALLY BLACK ASPHALT, UM, AND COMMUNITY WIDE, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THIS, IT'S NOT BUILDINGS, RIGHT? IT'S THE COMMUNITY.
SO TO GO TO THE OTHER POINT THAT YOU WERE MAKING, UM, AROUND THE COMMUNITY-WIDE GOALS, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING, AND I, AND I'M LOOKING OVER HERE 'CAUSE THIS MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE ANDY WHO'S GONNA JUMP IN AND TALK.
UM, BUT ARE WE ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, GETTING INFORMATION OR FEEDBACK ON THINGS LIKE THE, THE USE OF ASPHALT, THE USE OF CONCRETE, UM, THAT WE'RE USING SORT OF COMMUNITY-WIDE THAT WE DO, WE PROVIDE AS A GOVERNMENTAL SERVICE, BUT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO OUR OWN FACILITIES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE? UH, YES.
I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, SO, UH, IN, IN JUNE WE HAD THE, THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND, UH, MAPPING EFFORT.
UH, AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, THE SAME CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP AN INTERVENTION GUIDEBOOK.
UH, THEY'LL THEN GIVE US TAILORED, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS, FOR THE MAPPING EFFORT THAT THEY, THAT THE, ALL THAT DATA IS BASED OFF OF OR WHATNOT.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OF A, A SET OF WHAT, UH, INTERVENTION WE CAN DO AT THAT SCALE FOR BUILD FOR ROADWAYS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A PAVEMENT SEAL OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SHADE STRUCTURES OR MORE, UH, NATURAL BASED, UH, TREE PLANTINGS AND THE LIKE, WITHIN THOSE AREAS.
THAT GUIDEBOOK WILL HELP US BE ABLE TO, UH, COLLABORATE, UH, WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
AND I WOULD SAY, UM, KURT AND ANDY AND THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS BEEN, AND SANDY AND LIKE, HAS BEEN VERY OPEN, UH, TO CHATS WITH US ON BEING ABLE TO SWAP OUT AS MUCH OF ASPHALT AS WE CAN IN PARKING AREAS FOR, UH, UH, AN AGGREGATE BASE OR THE LIKE, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT ASPHALT, BE ABLE TO GET MORE INFILTRATION INTO THE SOILS FROM OUR STORM WATER AND THE LIKE.
AND SO THEY'VE BEEN REALLY OPEN TO HAVING THOSE, UH, THOSE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH US.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, WORK WITH THE, UM, WITH KAPPA STRATEGIES FOR THAT INTERVENTION COMPONENT IS GONNA HELP US BE ABLE TO FIND ADDITIONAL SOLUTIONS AT THAT COMMUNITY SCALE FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE SIMILAR EFFORTS.
I, I SUPPORT THE WARD OF THIS CONTRACT, JESSICA, THIS WHOLE SUSTAINABILITY THING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, SO ARCANE, SO I DON'T HAVE, I ONLY HAVE THE BROADEST OF SENSE OF WHAT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO AND WHAT BRYCE IS GONNA DO AND WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS GONNA DO.
BUT I GUESS IN THE END IF BRYCE SAYS HE NEEDS IT AND ANDY SAYS THEY NEED IT, I'M ALL FOR IT.
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SO I'LL SAY YES, PETE, THANK YOU MAYOR.YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FROM DREAMING TO DOING AND DREAMING IS OUR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AND DOING ARE THE ACTUAL PROJECTS.
AND TO DO THAT DOES REQUIRE EXPERTISE AND SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT BRYCE AND HIS TEAM, ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THOSE SKILLS, THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ALL OF 'EM.
AND IT'S BEST TO HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM HELP US DO THAT ROADMAP.
AND SO I APPRECIATE, UH, THE EFFORT AND THE DIRECTION OF WHERE THIS IS GOING.
I ALSO APPRECIATE BRYCE, THAT YOU HAVE FOCUSED THE PROJECT ON SCOPES ONE AND TWO.
I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE AND DIRECT AND OBVIOUS BENEFITS.
WE'RE GONNA FOCUS THIS ON OUR BUILDINGS, EQUIPMENT AND FLEET.
THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS ON THE FIRST PASS THROUGH.
AND SO I SUPPORT THE DIRECTION OF THIS PROJECT.
YOU WANT A MOTION? OH, NO ONE ELSE HAS TALKED.
NOBODY ELSE, RIGHT? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO VICE MAYOR.
I, TO HIM IN SUPPORT AND UH, FOR THE SIMILAR, THERE WAS JUST MENTIONED, BRYCE, YOU ARE HERE AS OUR GUIDANCE AND YOU KNOW, TO KEEP US, YOU KNOW, IN THE KNOW.
I'VE REALLY DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT I'M LEARNING THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE YOU OVER THE YEARS.
AND I ALSO WITH OUR STAFF, SO I SUPPORT IT.
UH, I HOPE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IT COULD SAVE US SOME MONEY AND SAVE US SOME WASTED ENERGY.
SO CAN WE HAVE A, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE.
JESSICA, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE LINKING AGREEMENT TO PROCURE CONSULTING SERVICES THROUGH MCKINSTRY ASCENT, ASCENSION, LLC IN THE APPRO ASCENSION.
LLC IN THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF $133,400 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD, I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT COULDN'T PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME, SO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US,
SO, AND YOUR FUTURE PATIENCE WITH US
[8.e. Discussion/possible action regarding future meeting/agenda items.]
E, DISCUSSION.POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FUTURE MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK WE'RE MEETING TOMORROW, AREN'T WE? WE ARE.
I, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING.
I THINK WE'RE STARTING AT 6:00 AM AND RUNNING THROUGH MIDNIGHT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
TWO, 2:00 PM WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY HERE.
UH, IS THERE ANY ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
[10. ADJOURNMENT]
NOTHING WE A ADJOURNED.