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[00:00:01]

OKAY.

[Special City Council on November 29, 2023.]

OKAY.

THIS IS, UH, A SPECIAL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 29TH.

2023.

UH, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR BLO.

PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU.

HERE.

COUNCILOR LTZ.

PRESENT.

COUNCILOR BERMAN? HERE.

COUNCILOR KINSELLA.

PRESENT.

COUNSELOR WILLIAMSON.

HERE.

COUNSELOR DUNN IS EXCUSED ABSENT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, ITEM THREE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UH, UPON A PUBLIC MAJORITY VOTE OF THE MEMBERS CONSTITUTING A QUORUM, THE COUNCIL MAY HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES.

DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF A NEW CITY MANAGER, INCLUDING THE RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION PROCESS.

THIS MATTER IS BROUGHT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 3 1 0 3 A ONE.

OKAY.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO? PETE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IT'S NO SURPRISE TO ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, BUT I'LL COMMENT TO GET ON THE MOTION.

YOU KNOW, I, I CONTINUE TO BE RELUCTANT TO ADJOURN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS UNLESS I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE MIGHT DISCUSS IN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I CAN SPECULATE THAT WE STILL HAVE LOTS OF PROCESS DESIGN WORK TO DO IN GETTING FROM A POOL OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES DOWN TO A FINAL LIST AND THEN MORE PROCESS DESIGN WORK TO DO TO GET FROM, TO SELECT THE FINAL CANDIDATE FROM THAT, FROM THAT LIST.

AND I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S BEST THE PROCESS DESIGN WORK BE DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, FOR TODAY, I, I THINK I'M JUST MAKING THESE COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.

I DON'T NEED TO ENGAGE ANYBODY IN A DEBATE ABOUT THIS, SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WELL, I THINK THAT WE COULD JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO DOES WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT AND, UM, I KNOW I DO.

SURE.

SO, BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO BEFORE ME, BECAUSE SINCE YOU DID BRING UP YOUR OPINION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO SURE.

WE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO ADD, BRIAN? I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE TALKING SIMPLY ABOUT PROCESS, THEN I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT BEING DONE PUBLICLY.

OBVIOUSLY DISCUSSING THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES NEEDS TO BE IN EXEC SESSION FOR THE REASONS THAT IT BEEN PREVIOUSLY GIVEN TO US.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I GO, JESSICA, I JUST WANT TO PROCEED.

I DO NOT WANT, I MEAN, I DON'T, I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU.

AND SO I THINK PERSONNEL THINGS COULD BE DECIDED BY THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

IN THIS, IN THIS CONTEXT.

AND, AND I WANT TO OPINE, UH, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THE MEDIA WILL BE LISTENING TO THIS PART OF THE RECORDING, WHICH YOU'RE ALLOWED TO, AND YOU HAVE YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

AND I, I WANT TO COUNTER WITH THIS PROCESS IS IF IT WAS MADE PUBLIC COULD DO DAMAGE TO THE, UH, APPLICANTS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BY MENTIONING THEIR NAMES AND DISCUSSING THEM IN DETAIL WOULD BE A PROBLEM, HAVING THE QUESTIONS DISCUSSED.

AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM HERE.

WE DON'T TO GO IN AND OUT OF YOU DISCUSSED THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF IN DETAIL OR NOT, BUT THE FACT OF HAVING THOSE IN PUBLIC SESSION, I THINK WOULD BE GIVING AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE TO ANY OF THE APPLICANTS.

UH, THAT'S MY OPINION.

IT'S NOT A DISCUSSION.

I I KNOW THAT'S YOUR OPINION, MAYOR, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DOES NOT COUNTER WHAT I'M SAYING.

OKAY.

SO I DON'T WANNA DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU, BUT I WANT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT YOUR OBJECTIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY PHILOSOPHY ON WHAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS IN THAT'S FAIR.

I JUST WANTED IT OUT THERE AS WELL.

KATHY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S DISAGREEING WITH PHILOSOPHY.

WE'RE DISAGREEING WITH THE PROCESS THAT'S APPLIED HERE AND, AND THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE SOME OF THESE THINGS.

BUT AGAIN, YOU SAID YOU DON'T WANNA DEBATE IT.

I DON'T WANNA DEBATE IT.

WE'LL MOVE.

I WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE ALONG.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I, I, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I MOVE, UH, THAT WE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

CAN WE JUST ADD, SINCE IT'S SO FAR SEPARATE, UM, FOR THE, THE REASONS READ BY THE MAYOR EARLIER ON THE AGENDA? YES.

FOR THE AGENDA.

FOR THE AGENDA REASONS AS STATED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND THE SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL WILLIAMSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, IT'S, UH, ONE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

WE ARE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO WE'LL LOCK THE DOOR CLERK THE TION.

[00:05:03]

OKAY, WE'RE RECORDING NOW THAT WE'RE JESSICA NOW THAT WE'RE BACK IN, IN PUBLIC SESSION.

THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY.