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WE'VE BEEN HERE.[PSPRS Board Meeting December 7, 2023.]
MEETING TO ORDER AT 1104.THIS IS THE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 7TH MEETING OF THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
LET'S, UM, DETECTIVE, WHY DON'T YOU LEAD US TO THE, UH, TO THE SURE.
EVERYBODY, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.
P THE P OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
BRENDA, YOU WANNA DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SURE.
UM, BOARD CHAIR PETE FERMAN HERE, BOARD MEMBER COREY COOPERMAN.
HERE, BOARD MEMBER SERGEANT CASEY PIER, PRESENT AND BOARD MEMBER DETECTIVE JAY EVANGELA HERE.
WE ARE ALL PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.
SO THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS, UH, OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS THE ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 8, 20, 23 MINUTES.
DID YOU ALL GET A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH 'EM? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? NO.
CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, SAY AYE.
NOW WE'LL DO THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC FOR OUR MEETING.
LOOKING OUT INTO THE AUDIENCE, I SEE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR AND OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF OFFICER JACKSON VAN DEEN'S MEMBERSHIP IN THE STONE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM AS OF DECEMBER 30TH, 2023.
NOW I'LL START TALKING ABOUT THIS ITEM THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO ADJUST TO OUR NEW RULES AND OUR SORT OF MORE THOROUGH PROCESS, I WILL GIVE, UH, BOARD MEMBER COOPERMAN CREDIT FOR, UH, ASKING A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION, WHICH CAUSED BRENDA AND I TO DEEP DIVE INTO OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND, UH, BECAUSE, UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I WILL PUT A CAUTION OUT HERE THAT IF WE GET INTO ANY DETAILS, MEDICAL DETAILS, LET ME GO A ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO WE'LL TRY TO KEEP IT ABOVE THAT LEVEL UNLESS WE NEED TO.
THE OFFICER DID DISCLOSE SOME, UH, PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, WHICH THE DOCTOR DID NOTE IN THEIR FORM.
AND SO NOW RE-LOOKING AT OUR RULES, WE NEED TO GIVE THE OFFICER SOME TIME TO RESPOND TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO PUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THE RECORD.
WE DIDN'T GET THAT DONE BEFORE THIS MEETING, SO I'M GONNA ASK FOR THIS ITEM FOUR AND THE NEXT ITEM TO BE DEFERRED TO A, A FUTURE DATE.
SO WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE THE PROCESS IS COMPLETELY DONE THE WAY WE NEED IT TO BE DONE.
SO WE GIVE THE EMPLOYEE SOME TIME TO PROVIDE THIS BOARD WITH SOME EXTRA INFORMATION IF THEY WANT.
THEY CAN EITHER CHOOSE OR NOT CHOOSE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEN BECOMES PART OF THE RECORD FOR WHEN WE DO ACCEPT THEM INTO THE PROGRAM.
OFFICER VAN DUSEN, WE'RE ALSO RUNNING UP AGAINST THEIR NIGHT.
WE RUN RUNNING UP AGAINST THEIR 90 DAY WINDOW OF GETTING THEM INTO THE PLAN.
SO WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE OFFICER VAN DUSEN TO DECIDE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION OR NOT VERY QUICKLY.
AND THEN WE NEED TO TRY AND SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THAT 90 DAY WINDOW IS UP, WHICH IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR CALENDAR YEAR.
SO WE'LL LOOK TO RESCHEDULE BOTH THESE ITEMS AT A, IN A FUTURE MEETING.
THE, WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, OFFICE LIEUTENANT OLIVER'S CASE AS WELL.
SHE DOESN'T QUITE HAVE TO RESPOND AS FAST.
IF SHE DOES, GREAT, WE CAN TAKE 'EM ON IN THE SAME MEETING.
IF NOT, WE CAN DO TWO, TWO MEETINGS.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO BE GIVEN, I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PROCEDURE BEFORE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO, UM, BE CONTACTED, RIGHT.
THE APPLICANTS AND, AND, UH, UH, BE HAPPY WITH WHAT'S THERE.
IS THAT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GET TO SEE A CERTAIN PIECE, UH, OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED? NO, I THINK IT'S IF, UH, THE DOCTOR WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S SOME PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE EMPLOYEE GETS A CHANCE TO JUST PROVIDE ANY OTHER SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD THAT MAY BE HELPFUL OR INFORMATIONAL IN THE FUTURE IF A DISABILITY RETIREMENT WOULD EVER COME UP OR JUST PROVIDING ANY INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE
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A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, EXPLANATORY THAN WE HAVE.A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC TYPE OF INFORMATION SO THAT WAY IT CAN BE CLEARLY DEFINED IF SOMETHING COMES UP LATER.
THAT WAS MY CONCERN, IS THAT SOMETHING WASN'T SPECIFIC ENOUGH.
THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THIS, THIS IS ALL, THIS IS NEW TO US AND THEN WE DON'T DO THAT AND WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T TAKEN ON IT IN THE PAST WITH ANY SUFFICIENT LEVEL.
SO THIS WILL BE THE, EVEN THOUGH THE DOCTOR AND THE EMPLOYEE AGREED.
PROVIDING THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION HERE.
SO THAT WAY WE, IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME UP LATER, WE COULD SAY CLEARLY RULE, IS IT DIRECTLY RELATED TO PREEXISTING MM-HMM.
AND THIS VERBIAGE FOR THIS PROCEDURE HAS COME FROM THE, THE STATE LEVEL P-S-P-R-S BOARD.
AND THIS CAME FROM THEIR MODEL RULES.
AND WE'RE ALSO REACTING TO, THIS IS ITEM D IN OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE, WHEN THERE IS A, A D FIVE, A FINDING OF A PREEXISTING CONDITION THAT IT LAYS OUT THIS PROCESS.
WE'RE ALSO, BRENDA AND I ARE REACTING TO WORDS IN, IN ITEM FIVE B THAT SAYS THE OF WHAT THE MEETING AGENDA SHOULD SAY.
AND SO IN THE FUTURE WHEN THERE IS A PREEXISTING CONDITION, THE AGENDA ITEM WILL LIST THAT THERE IS NOT WHAT THE CONDITION IS, BUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S A PREEXISTING CONDITION THAT WAS DISCUSSED OR DOCUMENTED IN THE PACKET.
SO WE'RE, WE CONTINUE TO SHARPEN OUR PROCESS AND GET IT RIGHT.
SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION BASED UPON THE, UM, DOCTOR'S CHECKING OFF AND SIGNING WHERE IT SAYS IS CAPABLE PERFORMING THE DUTIES OF POLICE OFFICER WITHOUT ACCOMMODATIONS? RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT.
WE'RE PAUSING BECAUSE WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO YEAH, IT'S NOT LIMITING FOR WORK.
BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE WERE A DISABILITY CLAIM, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME INFORMATION IN THE PACKET ABOUT A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION THAT WASN'T WORK LIMITING, BUT DID EXIST.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION WAS SPECIFIC ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD BE PERHAPS IN THE OFFICER'S BEST INTEREST TO DECLARE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO WE KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT THE PRE-EXISTING CONDITION WAS NOT A GENERALIZED ISSUE.
THAT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE PRIOR TO THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
COULD WE SCHEDULE THAT MEETING TODAY? WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT MEETING TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA, THEN WE'RE ALL AND YEAH.
PENDING OFFICER VAN DUSEN BEING AVAILABLE TO GET US ANY INFORMATION HE WISHES TO INCLUDE.
SO I KNOW THAT HE WAS WORKING LAST NIGHT FOR NIGHT SHIFT.
HE'S ON, HE'S ON NIGHTS RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, HE'S ON NIGHTS RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN I GUESS THE SECOND, UH, MEMBER FOR PROPOSED ADOPTION.
SO AND THERE'S MORE TIME THERE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE MUCH MORE TIME BECAUSE SHE JUST STARTED THIS WEEK.
THE 90 DAY CLOCK IS MORE FAVORABLE IN THAT CASE.
THERE'S A LOT MORE SAND LEFT IN THAT ONE
SO I KNOW, BRENDA, YOU'VE GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, UH, DECIDING TO DEFER THIS DECISION TO A FUTURE DATE? WE KNOW, BRENDA, YOUR WINDOW, UH, THAT WOULD WORK FOR YOU.
YOU'VE GOT A VACATION COMING UP.
SO YOU WOULD HOPE TO SCHEDULE THIS MEETING IN WHAT WEEK? UM, WELL LET, LET ME LOOK AT MY CALENDAR 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT IT BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE.
I KNOW I DO HAVE VACATION MYSELF COMING UP ON THE 27TH UNTIL THE THIRD.
THE WEEK BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEARS.
UM, SO THE WEEK OF THE 18TH IS, IS A POTENTIAL WEEK THE EIGHTH? YEAH, THE WEEK OF THE 18TH.
THE 18TH, THE 20TH OR THE 21ST.
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE GOT STUFF ON YOUR CALENDAR JUST 'CAUSE I KNOW RIGHT.
UM, SO THE 21ST IS A POTENTIAL DAY KEEPING WITH OUR THURSDAY MOTIF.
DOES THAT WORK FOR NO, A MAJORITY UHUH CAN A QUORUM, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY TO SAY I KEEP MY, UH, CALENDAR STILL IN PAPER FORM AND I DIDN'T BRING IT.
SO, UH, I KNOW I HAVE THINGS BOOKED THAT WEEK.
UH, IT'S BE GONNA BE IN, UM, PHOENIX ON THE 20TH AND 21ST, SO I CAN'T OKAY.
I COULD DO LATE AFTERNOON ON THE 21ST 'CAUSE I'LL BE BACK.
THAT ONE I HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO HOURS AFTER THE MEETING TO GET EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP THAT I'M, FOR MY REQUIREMENTS BEFORE I'M GONE FOR THE NEXT WEEK.
'CAUSE I, THERE'S TIME LIMITS AS TO GETTING, I SEE THE APPROVED MINUTES PUT UP ON THE WEBSITE, THE AUDIO ON THE WEBSITE, THE MINUTES SENT TO THE PSS P BOARD.
SO, UM, YEAH, THE EIGHT DATE IS WIDE OPEN
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FOR ME, FOR YOU.THAT WOULD BE BETTER WITH ME AS WELL.
I ALREADY HAVE COMMITMENTS ON THE 21ST.
WE DO HAVE A, IS AVAILABLE COUNCIL EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM 10 30 ON THE 18TH FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.
SO THE MORNING OF THE 18TH WOULD WORK AND I, I CAN MAKE THAT WORK TOO.
I, I'M SO SORRY, BUT I, I HAVE A, A CLIENT WITH MY HUSBAND.
WE DO KETAMINE TREATMENTS EVERY MONDAY MORNING.
SO I, I CAN'T, I CAN LEAVE HERE ON THE 18TH.
WE COULD GET A QUORUM THE MORNING OF THE 18TH.
AND THAT COURSE IT ALSO HAS TO WORK FOR THE OFFICER OFFICER.
YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR MEETING STARTS AT WHAT TIME PETE? UH, OUR MEETING 10 30 WITH EIGHT O'CLOCK WORK FOR EVERYBODY OR IS THAT TOO EARLY? OH, I CAN DO THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW Y'ALL MEET THAT EARLY.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? CAN YOU MAKE THAT WORK? I'LL, I'LL PROBABLY DO VIRTUAL IF ANYTHING BECAUSE OKAY.
SO I'M GOING TO TENTATIVELY SCHEDULE US ALL FOR THE 18TH AT 8:00 AM YEP.
IN THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE WITH A, A VIRTUAL LINK, UM, IF NEEDED.
NOW, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PERFECT.
WE'LL DEFER THAT THEN TO POTENTIALLY DECEMBER 18TH AT 8:00 AM ITEM FIVE WOULD BE, I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU GO ON THERE.
AS SOON AS I KNOW SOMETHING, A RESPONSE FROM HIM, I WILL CONFIRM WITH EVERYBODY WHETHER IT'S GOING TO WORK OR NOT.
AND BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK, BECAUSE I HAVE TO HAVE THE AGENDA POSTED FOR AT LEAST 24 HOURS ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH WOULD BE THURSDAY FOR ME BECAUSE THE CITY BEING CLOSED FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
SO I'LL KNOW NO LATER THAN NEXT THURSDAY IS WHEN I WOULD CONFIRM.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM FIVE.
IT IS A SIMILAR DISCUSSION IF OFFICER OLIVER CAN ALSO RESPOND WITHIN THAT WINDOW BREAK.
IF NOT, THEN WE'LL RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING SURE.
INTO JANUARY OR WHENEVER WE HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM FIVE? NO.
POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SEDONA PD LOCAL P-S-P-R-S BOARD ATTORNEY REPRESENTATION.
AND AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS ANOTHER ONE THAT THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT THE LOCAL BOARD DOES HAVE TO HAVE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY.
SO WE'RE CHARGED WITH HIRING AND WE'VE HAD A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH ATTORNEY.
I FORGET WHAT THE ORIGINAL GENTLEMAN WAS.
AND THEN HE BROUGHT IN, UH, THE CURRENT ATTORNEY KELLY, WHO WORKED WITH US THROUGH REDOING THE BOARD RULES AND PROCEDURES.
I THINK WE HAD A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH HER.
SHE SUBSEQUENTLY HAS DEPARTED FOR HER OWN FIRM JOINING OTHERS.
AND SO WE HAVE A CHOICE AMONGST US TO, IT'S THE, UH, THE ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, VERSUS THE FIRM THAT, YOU KNOW,
AND, UH, BRENDA'S GOT LETTERS FROM BOTH FIRMS THAT HAVE, UH, APPLIED OR EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING OUR ATTORNEY.
UM, BRENDA, YOU HAD A COMMENT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT TALKS ABOUT YOUR WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH MS. KELLY HAS BEEN GREAT.
I THINK I LOOK AT THE FEES FOR BOTH ATTORNEYS, IT'S THE SAME.
SO IT'S NOT A FISCAL DECISION, IT'S REALLY A WORKING RELATIONSHIP DECISION.
BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM ITSELF.
I, I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THE SAME ATTORNEY ON THE FIRE P-S-P-R-S AND MS. KELLY.
SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK SHE'S DOING A COMPETENT JOB.
AND MY VOTE WOULD BE TO STAY WITH HER.
THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO STAY WITH HER, UH, FOR CONTINUITY.
BUT DOES SHE, THE, THE RECORDS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WITH THE GROUP THAT WE WON'T BE CHOOSING, DOES SHE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE OR DOES SHE'S A FORM.
THERE'S FORM, THERE'S A FORM FROM THAT FIRM THAT WE WOULD CHECK AND THEY WOULD THEN FORWARD ALL THE DOCUMENTS TO HER.
I AGREE WITH THE CONTINUITY STATEMENT.
ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM YOU, BRENDA? NO, NO.
THERE'S ALSO THAT WE LIKE TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH MS. KELLY.
IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH, BRENDA, FOR OUR RECORDS? YEP.
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SAY THE FIRM NAME OF KELLY.KELLY, CYNTHIA, K KELLY, ESQUIRE AS THE ATTORNEY.
CAN YOU STATE THAT IN YOUR MOTION THEN PLEASE? LYNN? UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, USE THE KELLY LAW GROUP, UH, MS. CYNTHIA KELLY AS THE ATTORNEY FOR, UH, FOR THE PSP.
ANY OPPOSED? SAY NO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA IS DISCUSSION POSSIBLE IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. WE DO HAVE ONE THING THAT WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS ABOUT SCHEDULING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON FUTURE AGENDA MEETINGS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? NO.
SO THE ONE THING WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS WITH THE RETURN TO WORK SCHEDULING ROOMS AT, AT, UH, CITY HALL IS, IS GETTING MORE AND MORE COMPLICATED.
THIS 10 O'CLOCK THURSDAY TIMEFRAME IS NOT NECESSARILY WORKING OUT FOR THIS ROOM.
BRENDA AND I TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER POTENTIAL ROOMS WE COULD USE IN THE CITY.
THIS ONE REALLY DOES WORK BEST BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A PHONE IN CASE WE NEED TO CALL OUR ATTORNEY.
WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT WE RELIABLY CAN GET WORKING FOR A DISPLAY AND FOR CALLING IN.
WE HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS THAT IS QUITE VISIBLE.
WE COULD SEE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN JOINING OUR MEETING.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STAY IN THE
IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE WOULD SHIFT OUR MEETING TIME TILL 11:00 AM ON THE THURSDAYS OF THE MONTHS THAT WE SCHEDULED INSTEAD OF 10.
DOES THAT CAUSE ANYONE SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTY? NO.
THINKING ABOUT MOVING TO 11? NO.
OUR, OUR, UH, BOARD RULES ACTUALLY ALSO TALK ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I FEEL, AND THEN IT ALSO GIVES A, UNLESS OTHERWISE WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE KIND OF LANGUAGE IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE BOARD RULES LANGUAGE JUST YET.
WAIT, LET'S WAIT THERE UNTIL WE FIND SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT WE CAN ON OUR WEBSITE, MAYBE PUT AN EXTRA LINE IN THAT SAYS THE MEETINGS ARE NOW ON THE THURSDAYS AT 11 O'CLOCK.
AND YOU'LL SEND US AN UPDATE, CYNTHIA? YEAH.
THEN WE'LL ADJUST OUR CALENDARS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THERE'S A, THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP MEETING IS IN HERE THAT RUNS INTO THE 10 O'CLOCK TIMEFRAME.
SO THIS IS WHY WE'RE AT 11 O'CLOCK TODAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT FUTURE ITEMS? I WANNA BRING UP THE ACTUARY, ACTUARY REPORT PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M AIMING TO HAVE THAT AT THE PRESCHEDULED APRIL MEETING.
SO IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE TRY AND PLAN TO BE THERE.
SO WE HAVE A QUORUM, UM, FOR THAT MEETING.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT WORKS FOR FINANCE.
UM, THE FEBRUARY, LIKE WE WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNING DOES NOT.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO PUSH FOR THEM TO BE APRIL.
APRIL, WHAT IS IT? IT'S THE FIRST THURSDAY.
OH, IT'S THE FIRST THURSDAY? YEAH.
IT'S ONE OF OUR PRE-SCHEDULED ONES.
UM, AND THAT WE'LL PROBABLY BUMP TO 11:00 AM RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M AIMING FOR.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF THAT IMPORTANCE OF THAT MEETING BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM.
YOU'RE AIMING FOR WHAT? IN APRIL? APRIL 4TH.
AT 11:00 AM FOR THE ACTUARIAL REPORT.
SO, WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE THAT WE HEAR AT.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR REQUIRED LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT WE HEARD IT.
ONE OF OUR REQUIRED MEETINGS PER YEAR.
I KNOW IT'S A WAYS OUT, BUT JUST TO MM-HMM.
ANYTHING ELSE, BRENDA? ANYTHING ELSE? UM, NOTHING ELSE FROM ME.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 1123.