Mar 12, 2024 City Council

WELL, LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

ALL RIGHT.

AND ALSO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AS TO WHERE TO SIGN UP FOR, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF YOU CAN COME OFF THAT , THERE'S A LIGHT SWITCH AGAINST THAT WALL UNDER, SO IF YOU COULD NOT LEAN ON THE LIGHT SWITCH AND, UH, OR HIT THE UP BUTTON SO THAT THE, THERE YOU GO.

ALL NEW TECHNOLOGY.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE FILLED OUT THE, FOR THE, THE CORRECT THING.

WE HAVE, UH, THREE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, COMMENT.

ONE WOULD BE FOR, UH, THE OPEN, UH, CALL TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS BEFORE THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING OR BEFORE WE GET TO THE ITEMS. THEN FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM.

SO, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA FILL OUT A CARD, MAKE SURE YOU'RE, YOU'RE FOR THE RIGHT TOPIC.

OKAY? EVERYBODY'S IN PLACE.

UH, WE HAVE COUNCILLOR KINSELLA UP.

[1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE]

PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY OF JUSTICE ALL, AND NOW A MOMENT OF SILENCE, IF YOU WILL.

READ THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR JALO.

UH, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE

[2. ROLL CALL/MOMENT OF ART (Part 1 of 2)]

PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU.

HERE.

COUNCILOR DUNN.

PRESENT.

COUNCILOR FOLTZ? HERE.

COUNCILLOR WILLIAMSON HERE.

AND THEN, UH, EVERYBODY CAME FOR THE RIGHT TIME.

I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL HERE.

JUST FOR THE MOMENT OF ART, THIS IS THE FIRST , THE FIRST MEETING, AND OF THE MONTH, SO YOU GET TO ENJOY SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR US.

PATIENT AND KIND, BUT ENCOURAGES THEM WITH THEIR STRUGGLES AND FRUSTRATIONS AS THEY WORK WITH FINE MOTOR SKILLS AND UNFAMILIAR TOOLS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS.

UM, MARCH IS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, AND SO I'VE CHOSEN TO INVITE NANCY WILSON TO CELEBRATE HER WORK AND HERSELF.

UH, SHE IS A FIBER ARTIST AND A MASTER SPINNER.

NANCY RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA SIX YEARS AGO AFTER ALMOST 25 YEARS OF SERVICE.

HER FIBER BACKGROUND GOES BACK TO 1988 WHEN SHE AND HER HUSBAND ACQUIRED THEIR FIRST LLAMA.

SHE HAS A BS IN TEXTILES AND CLOTHING, SO IT SEEMED OBVIOUS THAT SHE WOULD EVENTUALLY LEARN TO SPIN FIBER.

HER FIRST ART FORM AS A CHILD WAS HAND SPUN ART.

WHEN HER MOM TAUGHT HER TO KNIT, SHE HAD ALWAYS MADE HER OWN CLOTHES.

SO WEAVING SEEMED A NATURAL PROGRESSION, WHICH RETIREMENT MADE POSSIBLE.

NANCY WEAVES MOSTLY ON A RIGID HEAD LOOM AND WEAVES GARMENTS WITH MINIMAL SEAMS INCORPORATING HER HAND SPUN YARN.

I ALSO WANNA MENTION SHE'S A VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF AN ARTIST IN THE ARTIST IN THE CLASSROOM PROGRAM.

SO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

I PAIRED HER WITH A TEACHER, MAUREEN BARTON, A SECOND GRADE TEACHER AT WEST SEDONA ELEMENTARY.

AND THE CURRICULUM WAS WEAVING ACROSS CULTURES.

NANCY, INTEGRATED WEAVING PROJECTS WITH CULTURAL TRADITIONS THAT ALIGN SECOND GRADE STANDARDS IN SOCIAL STUDIES LESSONS, WHICH INCLUDED MEXICAN PIONEER AND NAVAJO CULTURES.

THEY EXPLORED ALL THREE OF THOSE.

MATH WAS USED WHEN MEASURING AND ESTIMATING URINE LENGTHS, MATHEMATICAL PRACTICE WITH APPROPRIATE TOOLS ATTENDED TO PRECISION PATTERNS AND REPETITION.

AND ENGLISH WAS INTEGRATED WITH STORIES LIKE CHARLIE NEEDS A CLOAK AND THE GOAT IN THE RUG.

SO A LITTLE QUOTE FROM MAUREEN.

NANCY WORKS EXTREMELY WELL WITH THIS AGE GROUP.

SHE'S NOT ONLY

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SHE ALLOWED FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND DESIGN WHILE STRUCTURING THE PROCESS.

THE LESSONS WERE MAGNIFICENT.

I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER THAT MY STUDENTS ARE EMPOWERED BY THIS EXPERIENCE.

THE ARTISTS IN THE CLASSROOM PROGRAM NOT ONLY BRINGS PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO OUR SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT, BUT IT ALSO ENABLES OUR STUDENTS TO EXPERIENCE SUCCESS THROUGH THEIR OWN EFFORTS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

THEY WILL HAVE THE MEMORIES AND CREATIVE ART PROJECTS TO KEEP FOREVER.

AND I JUST ONE QUOTE FROM A, A, A BOY, A LITTLE BOY IN SECOND GRADE, MRS. WILSON IS VERY HELPFUL AND LOVING AND JOYFUL AND CARING.

OUR PROJECTS LOOK VERY GOOD.

AND MY MOM, DAD, STEPMOM, STEP GRANDPA AND GRANDMA WILL LOVE THEM.

SO NANCY IS A MEMBER OF THE VERDE VALLEY WEAVERS AND SPINNERS GUILD, AS WELL AS THE MOUNTAIN SPINNERS AND WEAVERS GUILD.

SHE'S ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN LLAMA AND ALPACA ASSOCIATION.

AND THERE ARE BUSINESS CARDS ARE IN THE FRONT IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED, OR YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT ME.

AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO CONNECT YOU WITH NANCY.

PLEASE WELCOME NANCY WILSON.

HI, NANCY.

IT'S VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

IT'S BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME.

I HAD NO IDEA YOU WERE SO TALENTED.

OKAY, SO YOU WANNA GET THE NEXT SLIDE? UH OH.

THAT'S OKAY.

HERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, UM, THIS ONE, I'M VERY LOW TECH, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO.

SO LLAMAS STARTED IT ALL.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 13 LLAMAS AND ONE ALPACA.

I TOOK MY FIRST SPINNING CLASS IN 1988, SHORTLY AFTER WE GOT OUR FIRST LLAMAS.

AND IT IS TRULY MY FAVORITE WAY TO RELAX.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, LLAMAS ARE EASY TO CARE FOR.

I FEED THEM ONCE A DAY, GENERALLY IN THE EVENING, LATE AFTERNOON, WE GIVE THEM GRASS, HAY, AND ESPECIALLY FORMULATED FREE CHOICE.

MINERAL GESTATION IS ABOUT 350 DAYS.

CREAS, WHICH IS THE SPANISH WORD FOR BABY, IS WHAT WE CALL A NEWBORN LLAMA OR ALPACA.

AND THEY'RE GENERALLY AROUND 20 TO 30 POUNDS AT BIRTH AND THEY'RE UP IN NURSING WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS.

THEY'RE USUALLY BORN DURING THE DAY AND GENERALLY UNASSISTED.

YAY.

I ORIGINALLY DID MY OWN SHEARING AND IT WOULD TAKE ME ABOUT AN HOUR TO SHEAR ONE LLAMA.

AND WITH A LARGE GROUP, THAT ADDS UP TO A LOT OF TIME.

SO NOW THEY GET PROFESSIONALLY SHORT EVERY YEAR OR EVERY OTHER YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FIBER THEY'VE GROWN OVER THE YEAR.

SO I LIKE COLD WINTERS.

A SHEARER TAKES A FRACTION OF THE TIME TO DO WHAT I WOULD DO IN AN HOUR, AND THE WHOLE HERD'S DONE.

I BLOW OFF THE LLAMAS PRIOR TO SHEARING TO GET THE VEGETABLE MATTER OUT OF THE FLEECE.

NEXT LLAMA AND ALPACA FIBER HAS VERY LOW LAIN CONTENT, SO IT'S VERY DRY.

THE BEST FIBER IS THE BLANKET AREA, WHICH IS THE AREA OF THE BODY BETWEEN THE FRONT AND REAR LEGS.

SO THIS IS CAPRI AFTER BEING HAND SHORED BY ME.

UM, A PROFESSIONAL SHEARER WOULD HAVE MADE IT EVEN SHORTER, SO HENCE IS A SPINNER.

I'D HAVE LONGER FIBER TO WORK WITH AND IT WOULD BE A LOT SMOOTHER.

I LIKE TO HAVE SHEARING DONE LATE SPRING SO THAT THE LLAMAS HAVE A CHANCE TO GROW SOME FIBER BACK FOR SUN PROTECTION.

NEXT LLAMA AND ALPACA FIBER COMES IN A WIDE VARIETY OF NATURAL COLORS AND COLOR PATTERNS SUCH AS APPALOOSA, PINTO, AND THAT SORT OF COLOR PATTERN SIMILAR TO LIKE IN HORSES.

UM, AFTER SHEARING, I SEND THE FIBER TO A MILL FOR CARTING INTO ROVING.

AND ROVING IS A FORM OF FIBER THAT'S READY TO SPIN AND DIE AS SHOWN HERE.

SO THE NATURAL COLORS ON THE LEFT DYED FIBER ON THE RIGHT.

I USE A CROCKPOT TO DO MY DYEING, AND I USE CHEMICAL DYES.

I CHOOSE MY COLORS SIMILAR TO WHAT A POTTER MIGHT DO.

I GO IN THERE AND IT'S LIKE, OH, TONIGHT I THINK THIS COLOR LOOKS GOOD.

SO WHAT OTHER COLORS WILL LOOK GOOD WITH IT? SO MY, UH, COLOR THEORY IS KIND OF MINIMAL.

LEFT, WHICH IS THE HORIZONTAL YARN.

I LIKE TO COM.

THESE ARE SOME OF MY HAND SPUN YARNS.

I LIKE TO COMBINE DIFFERENT COLORWAYS INTO MY YARNS USING A VARIETY OF TECHNIQUES SUCH AS MAYBE SPINNING TWO COLORS, TWO DIFFERENT YARNS FIBERS TOGETHER, DIFFERENT COLORWAYS, UH, SPINNING NATURAL WITH DYED AND THAT SORT OF THING.

WEAVING'S RELATIVELY NEW TO ME.

I USE A RIGID HEAD OF LOOM.

UH, I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF ROOM.

IT'S EASY TO SET UP AND GET TO THE WEAVING PART AND NOT SPEND LOTS OF TIME DOING THE WARPING PART.

I ENJOY WATCHING THE SUBTLE COLOR VARIATIONS AS I WEAVE WITH MY HAND SPUN YARN.

THE LEFT IS A PICTURE OF A RWANDA THAT I, UH, WOVE FROM THE HAND SPUN IS THE

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AND THE YARN WAS SPUN FROM RANDOM COLORS IN JUST A RANDOM ORDER.

AND EVEN THOUGH I DID THAT, IT ENDED UP HAVING SOME INTERESTING COLOR EFFECTS WITH STRIPING THAT I HADN'T PLANNED ON.

BUT I REALLY LIKE HOW IT, HOW IT ENDED UP WORKING OUT.

THE SHAWL AT THE RIGHT USES A GRAY ALPACA BLEND, AND I MADE A GRADIENT YARN, UH, BY BLENDING A MAROON FIBER WITH GRAY, BLACK, BROWN AND WHITE FIBER TO CREATE THE GRADATION.

BEING PART OF THE ARTISTS IN THE CLASSROOM PROGRAM HAS ALLOWED ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FIBER ARTS TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF FIBER ARTISTS.

MY HOPE IS THAT THEY WILL LEARN TO APPRECIATE HANDMADE ITEMS AND THE EFFORT INVOLVED IN MAKING THEM.

FIBER ART HELPS WITH MANUAL DEXTERITY.

THE STUDENTS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER IN A NON-COMPETITIVE SETTING.

PRIOR TO OUR ACTUAL WEAVING, I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE NAVAJO CULTURE AND THE IMPORTANCE WEAVING PLAYS IN THAT CULTURE.

I SHOWED THEM NAVAJO RUGS IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WEAVING STYLES AND DEMONSTRATED THE PROCESS OF TAKING RAW WOOL THROUGH THE WASHING, CARTING AND SPINNING PROCESS USING A TRADITIONAL NAVAJO SPINDLE.

THE STUDENTS WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN THE SPINNING WITH SEVERAL OF THEM ASKING TO TRY THE SPINDLE, WHICH I LET THEM DO NEXT.

THE STUDENTS WERE EAGER TO GET STARTED ON THEIR WEAVING PROJECTS.

SOME OF THEM WERE HELPING THEIR FELLOW STUDENTS.

ONE GIRL WAS MISSED THE FIRST DAY, AND THE NEXT DAY I HAD OBVIOUSLY HAD TO TRAIN THE TRAINER EXPERIENCE BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IN HER LITTLE GROUP OF DESKS WAS HELPING HER GET STARTED.

I'D LIKE TO BRING A VARIETY OF COLORS AND TEXTURES OF YARN SO THAT THE KIDS HAVE LOTS OF CHOICES.

SAMPLES OF COMBINING YARNS AND FIRES FIBERS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

SEVERAL STUDENTS HAD SPECIFIC OBJECTS AND OBJECTIVES IN MIND FOR THEIR PROJECTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE GIRL WAS WEAVING A BLANKET FOR HER AMERICAN GIRL DOLL.

ANOTHER, UH, WAS SELECTING COLORS FOR HIS WEAVING BASED ON HIS KARATE BELT COLORS.

THERE WAS ANOTHER BOY WHO WAS WORKING VERY INTENTLY ON HIS PROJECT, TAKING GREAT CARE WITH EACH MOVEMENT OF THE LEFT YARN.

ANOTHER GIRL WANTED TO WEAVE A REPRESENTATION OF THE AMERICAN FLAG AND ASKED HOW TO ADD STARS TO HER WEAVING.

IN THE WEAVING PROCESS.

STUDENTS WOULD LOOK ON IN ON WHAT OTHERS WERE MAKING WITHOUT MAKING ANY JUDGMENTS ABOUT THEIR WORK OR THEIR COLOR CHOICES.

I CONTINUE TO CONTINUALLY SCAN THE CLASS TO SEE WHERE HELP IS NEEDED AND TO CHECK IN WITH THE STUDENTS.

THEY LOVE TO SHARE WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

I GIVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK SO THAT THEY FEEL SUCCESSFUL WITH THEIR PROJECT AND THE WHOLE WEAVING EXPERIENCE.

AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, I INCORPORATE STEM, WHICH IS SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, AND MATH.

I INCORPORATE THOSE TOPICS INTO THE CLASSROOM PROJECT NEXT.

SO THIS IS, UM, THIS YEAR'S CLASS WITH THE PROJECTS IN THE WORKS, ALL SMILING, INCLUDING ME.

NEXT, ANOTHER PROJECT THAT I DID AS PART OF THE ART ARTIST IN THE CLASSROOM PROJECT WAS COVERING BARS OF SOAP WITH WOOL AND SALTING THEM.

AND THEY REALLY LIKED HAVING ALL THAT SOAP AND BUBBLES AND ALL THE SOAPY WATER, NICE CLEAN PROJECT.

UM, SO I WANNA SAY ART AND STEM.

WHILE MAY, THEY MAY SEEM AS OPPOSITES, THEY REALLY COMPLIMENT ONE ANOTHER.

ART INSPIRES CREATIVITY AND STEM REQUIRES THAT CREATIVITY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. NEXT, UM, IN MY MASTER SPINNERS PROGRAM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ASSIGNED TO DO WAS TO TAKE AND CREATE A YARN INSPIRED BY A PHOTO.

SO THIS WAS THE PHOTO AND THE YARN OR THE FIBERS THAT I CHOSE TO USE.

NEXT, I USED A DRUM CARTER ON THE LEFT TO PREPARE THE FIBERS FOR SPINNING ON THE RIGHT.

WE USED TO HAVE A FESTIVAL AT ANTE, AND ONE YEAR WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO USE YARN AROUND THE FACILITY, ALSO KNOWN AS YARN BOMBING.

THIS IS AN ENGINEERING CONCEPT BECAUSE HERE WE'RE USING YARN TO SUPPORT A PLANT IN ITS PLANTER IN A BEAUTIFUL WAY.

NEXT, THE SHOULDER WRAP AT THE FRONT OF THE TABLE.

ON THE LEFT PICTURE, UH, USE BOTH A HAND SPUN WARP, WHICH ARE THE LENGTHWISE THREADS, AS WELL AS FOR THE LEFT, WHICH ARE THE CROSSWISE THREAD.

SO THAT, UM, AND THEN THE REST OF THE THINGS ARE VARIOUS PROCESSES IN THE, IN THE FORM OF GETTING FIBER TO YARN.

THE RIGHT PHOTO SHOWS A START OF A WEAVING PROJECT ON MY RIGID HEAD LOOM.

OKAY, THESE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT I'VE WOVEN.

THE LEFT PHOTO USES CLASPED WEF, WHICH YOU DON'T TRY AND SAY FAST.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT THERE'S A PICTURE SHOWING SIMPLE PATTERNS THEN THAT CAN BE CREATED ON THE RIGID HEAD LOOM.

NEXT, HERE'S

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THE LEFT SHOWS A COMMERCIAL YARN AND HAND SPUN YARN.

THE CENTER ONE IS OPTICAL BLENDING, WHERE YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT COLORS IN THE YARN, BUT THE EFFECT TREE IS A THIRD COLOR.

AND THEN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS, UM, A YARN WITH DIFFERENT COLORS OF NATURAL FIBERS.

AND ACTUALLY THE PIC, THE PIECE THAT I'M WEARING TODAY IS IN THE EXAMPLE OF MODIFYING AN EXISTING HAND SPUN GARMENT THAT ENDED HERE.

AND I NEVER WORE IT.

SO I FIGURED OUT A WAY TO ADD PICK UP STITCHES AND ADD ON THE LENGTH TO IT.

AND NOW IT'S ONE OF MY THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO WEAR .

NEXT, THIS IS THE VERDE VALLEY WEAVERS AND SPINNERS GUILD, WHICH MEETS HERE AT SEDONA ART CENTER.

IT'S THE THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A DISPLAY AT THE CAMP VERDE LIBRARY SHOWING WORK DONE BY THE MEMBERS.

NEXT, THIS IS THE MOUNTAIN SPINNERS AND WEAVERS GUILD ALSO DOING, HAS A DISPLAY.

THIS ONE'S AT THE PRESCOTT LIBRARY, AND THIS IS THE PRESCOTT GUILD.

WE HAVE THREE TIMES THAT WE'RE, UH, VENDORS AT THE PRESCOTT FARMER'S MARKET.

AND SO THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S WEAVING, KNITTING, EVEN SOME FELTING IN THERE.

THE YARNS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS SLIDE ARE A CABLED CONSTRUCTION, WHERE I'VE GOT TWO, TWO PLY YARNS.

SO YOU'VE IN ESSENCE, GOT FOUR YARNS THAT YOU PLY TOGETHER IN AN INTERESTING WAY TO CREATE THIS TEXT WHERE YOU'VE GOT LITTLE, ALMOST LOOKS LIKE LITTLE BEADS ON FOUR SIDES OF THE YARN.

SO I REALLY DO HAVE THE LLAMAS TO THANK FOR GETTING ME INVOLVED IN THE FIBER ARTS.

I'M QUITE CERTAIN THAT WITHOUT THEM I WOULDN'T HAVE BECOME A SPINNER.

AND, UH, OF COURSE, ON THE RIGHT IS ARCTIC, OUR PYRENEES, WHO I, I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO THE FEEDING WITHOUT HIS HELP.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

AND, UM, HERE'S SOME UPCOMING FIBER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE AREA.

THANK YOU, NANCY.

OKAY, WE'LL JUST GIVE NANCY A SECOND OR TWO TO GO.

THERE YOU GO.

SO ITEM THREE, CONSENT, UH, ITEMS. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF, THE PUBLIC OR THE COUNCIL, UH, TO PULL THESE ITEMS. IF THERE'S ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ON THEM, DO WE HAVE ANY INTEREST? OKAY, SO WE HAVE ITEMS, UH, CAN I HAVE A, A MOTION FOR ITEMS A TO EI MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH E.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

[3. CONSENT ITEMS - APPROVE]

SECOND.

OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE UNANIMOUS APPOINTMENTS.

WE HAVE NONE.

SUMMARY OF CURRENT

[5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER & COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS]

EVENTS BY THE MAYOR, COUNCIL'S CITY MANAGER ON YOUR, UH, AND ON YOUR COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

UH, COUNCILOR FURMAN.

IN SERVING, UH, IN THAT, UH, COMMITTEE.

I COULDN'T PASS UP A LARGE AUDIENCE FOR THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I'M SURE NOT.

UH, JUST AS A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR MOST OF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS, I AM THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO TWO REGIONAL WATER BOARDS.

AND SO WATER EVENTS ARE A FAVORITE OF MINE.

SO GET OUT YOUR CALENDARS AND SCHEDULE THE, UH, WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK.

THE 20TH IS THE KSB SPEAKER SERIES CONTINUES WHERE, UH, ONE OF OUR OWN ROXANNE HOLLAND IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WASTEWATER QUALITY AND MANAGEMENT.

ONLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT AFICIONADOS CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT WASTEWATER QUALITY AND MANAGEMENT .

UM, BUT IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR ATTENDANCE THERE.

AND THEN ON THE 22ND OF NEXT WEEK, FRIDAY IS WORLD WATER DAY AND THERE WILL BE AN EVENT AT CRESCENT MOON PICNIC SITE WHERE WE CAN ALL LEARN ABOUT OAK CREEK WATER QUALITY.

WE CAN LEARN ABOUT, UH, WHERE OUR WATER COMES FROM IN THE SEDONA AREA AND, AND SORT OF HOW WE GET IT AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THOSE ARE TWO GREAT EVENTS.

THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL WILLIAMSON? YEAH.

UM, I'M, I JUST WANNA UPDATE THE COUNCIL A LITTLE ON THE RECYCLE CENTER, UH, LAST YEAR, THE COST THAT WHAT THEY COULD SELL THE MATERIALS FOR SORT OF BOTTOMED OUT THIS YEAR.

GUESS WHAT? IT'S REBOUNDED.

OH, AND SO , WHICH IS WHAT THEY KEEP SAYING THAT IT'S TOTALLY CYCLICAL.

SO, UM, THEY'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THEY'RE IN PRETTY SOLID FINANCIAL SITUATION THIS YEAR.

AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE GOT THEIR SPENDING UNDER CONTROL.

THEIR INCOME IS INCREASING, SO IT LOOKS REAL SOLID FOR THE, FOR THE YEAR, AT LEAST THIS FAR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ON THIS END, COUNCILOR FUL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR MY ASSIGNMENT TO THE NORTHERN ARIZONA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AND SPECIFICALLY THE AREA COUNCIL ON AGING, WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR TWO COCONINO COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED

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AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE HOW FUNDING IS MADE AVAILABLE, AND PROGRAMMING IS MADE AVAILABLE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE FOUR COUNTY NAAG REGION.

IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING OF INTEREST TO YOU, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONNECT YOU WITH THE RIGHT FOLKS.

THANKS, MAYOR.

JUST WANNA SAY THAT SATURDAY MORNING IS THE ST.

PATRICK'S DAY PARADE AND WEATHER LOOKS IFFY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ALL TALK TO THE WEATHER PEOPLE AND GET THAT RAIN REMOVED SO WE HAVE A BRIGHT SUNSHINY DAY FOR OUR PARADE.

SO HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL OUT THERE.

10 O'CLOCK JORDAN ROAD, RIGHT? EXCELLENT.

UH, PUBLIC FORUM ITEM SIX.

I HAVE THOSE CARDS ALREADY.

UH, DEPUTY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FOR THE, UH, THE PUBLIC FORUM?

[6. PUBLIC FORUM (Part 1 of 2)]

NO, MA'AM.

SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH THAT.

UH, I'M GONNA CALL, UH, PEOPLE'S NAMES UP AND WE'LL HAVE IT ON DECK.

SO THIS WOULD BE STEVE SLEAVES, FOLLOWED BY ED KETTLER, STEVE.

YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME, CITY OF RESIDENCE, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

WE HAVE NEW TIMERS UP ON THE WALL, SO JUST FOLLOW THE TIMERS AND, UM, ED LER, DO, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT'S FINE.

AS LONG AS YOU RIGHT NEARBY.

STEVE, IT'S ALL YOURS.

MY NAME IS STEVE SLEAVES.

I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, BEAUTIFUL SEDONA FOR 25 YEARS.

MR. MAYOR MADAM VICE MAYOR COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR KINSELLA .

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXERCISE MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES, THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

SO I HAVE HERE A PETITION ADDRESSED TO THE SERONA CITY GOVERNMENT AND TO EACH OF YOU BY NAME ALLOW ME TO READ IT.

IT SAYS, PETITION TO SEDONA CITY GOVERNMENT, WHEREAS THE CITY OF SEDONA BANKS WITH WELLS FARGO BANK, AND WHEREAS WELLS FARGO IS THE WORLD'S TOP LENDER OF OPERATING CAPITAL TO THE OIL AND GAS FRACKING INDUSTRY, THEREFORE, WE THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS RESPECTFULLY DEMAND, AND I MEAN, RESPECTFULLY, THAT THE CITY OF SEDONA STOP DOING BUSINESS WITH WELLS FARGO BANK.

SO I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THESE 150 PEOPLE, 153 NOW I THINK, WHO HAVE SIGNED THEIR NAMES IN INC.

ON PAPER TO, TO, TO, UH, GET SOME ACTION FROM THE CITY GOVERNMENT HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE? THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

HUNDRED 53 NAMES.

WELLS FARGO IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST FUNDER OF MONEY FOR FRACKING AND FRACKING.

COUNCILOR FURMAN IS REALLY BAD FOR WATER.

UH, PROBABLY YOU KNOW THAT IN SEVERAL WAYS.

SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT WELLS FARGO DOES, BUT WE CAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE COMPLICIT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO LET WELLS FARGO USE OUR MONEY TO DO THEIR DIRTY WORK, TO COMMIT THEIR CRIMES AGAINST NATURE.

RACKING IS A CRIME AGAINST NATURE AND OIL MONEY IS DIRTY MONEY.

NOW LOOK, WE'RE REASONABLE PEOPLE, AND WE KNOW THIS IS NOT GONNA BE EASY TO CHANGE.

FIND A NEW BANK.

THAT MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT YOUR EFFORT BEHIND IT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SUPPORT TO BACK YOU UP.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION ONCE AGAIN AND I WILL BE BACK.

THANK YOU, STEVE.

YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT PETITION WITH THE CITY CLERK? LEAVE IT WITH THE CITY CLERK.

SO SHE HAS TO RECORD THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT INTO THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

CHRISTINA MANNING, ARE YOU NEARBY? OKAY.

UH, ED KETTLER, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINA MANNING.

CAN YOU JUST WORK YOUR WAY UP PLEASE?

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ED, YOU HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES.

MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

HEY, IT'S, WHO'S IN CHARGE? EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, MY MISTAKE.

YOU HAVE TO, UH, START WITH YOUR NAME, RESIDENT.

MY NAME IS ED LER AND I'M A CITIZEN OF SEDONA.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

MY QUESTION IS, WHO'S IN CHARGE LATER THIS AFTERNOON? THE CULTURAL PARK MATTER WILL COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, BUT I HAVE SEEN REPORTS IN THE RED ROCK NEWS THAT WORK HAS ALREADY STARTED WITHOUT ALL THE APPROVALS.

SO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? AS CITIZENS, WE HAVE TO GET APPROVALS FROM THE CITY TO DO MAJOR WORK.

SO WHY DOES CITY STAFF GET TO GO OFF AND GET WORK STARTED BEFORE ALL THE I'S ARE DOTTED AND THE T'S ARE CROSSED? THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IS THERE A TWO TIER SYSTEM HERE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CITY GETS TO RUN AMUCK OR IS THIS HYPOCRISY AND ARROGANCE THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PROCESSES? WHY HAVE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL NOT DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO STOP THIS VIOLATION OF PROCESS? IF YOU EXPECT US TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND THE ORDINANCES, THEN THE CITY SHOULD TOO.

YOU ARE GOVERNED AND YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AS GOVERNANCE TO STOP SOMETHING.

IT'S NOT FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.

IF YOU EXPECT US TO FOLLOW RULES, YOU SHOULD TOO.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE AS RIGHT NOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE INMATES ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM AND THE OPTICS OF THIS ARE VERY, VERY POOR.

MR. K.

CHRISTINA MANNING WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CHRIS AS A GALLO.

THESE ARE ALL SPECIFIC TO ANOTHER ISSUE THOUGH.

NO, THIS IS, NO, THIS IS ALL, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS WHAT'S THAT? NO, THAT WAS, BUT THAT ONE WAS NOT.

WELL, RIGHT, BUT HE HE WASN'T SPECIFIC.

CHRISTINA MANNING.

YES, YOU'RE UP.

AND CHRIS, UH, GRILLO GALLO, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY.

WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, BY THE TIME I CALL YOUR NAME, MAYBE YOU'RE OUTSIDE IN THE LOBBY.

UH, CHRISTINA AGAIN, START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS KRISTI MANNING AND I AM A RESIDENT OF ST.

PAUL MINNESOTA.

BUT MY MOTHER IS A RESIDENT OF SEDONA AND I'M HERE VISITING HER AND I, I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT STEVE SPOKE ABOUT.

I AM A PROFESSOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY AT A SMALL COLLEGE IN ST.

PAUL, MINNESOTA.

I STUDY CLIMATE ANXIETY, AND MANY OF US IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY KNOW A YOUNG PERSON WHO IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.

I WORK WITH A LOT OF THEM.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE NEARLY PARALYZED BY WORRY BECAUSE THEY SEE CLIMATE CHANGE ADVANCING AND THEY SEE A LACK OF ACTION IN RESPONSE.

MANY OF US ARE WORRIED, MANY OF US WHO ARE OLDER THAN THE COLLEGE STUDENTS I WORK WITH ARE WORRIED, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

RIGHT? AND WHAT STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE DO OUR BANKING HAS A HUGE IMPACT BECAUSE BANKS, WELLS FARGO IS ONE OF THE TOP.

CITIBANK IS ANOTHER.

CHASE BANK IS ANOTHER.

THEY ARE LOANING OUR MONEY TO THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, CREATING MORE FRACKING, UM, MORE PIPELINES, MORE COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS.

AND BY CHANGING WHERE WE DO OUR MONEY BUSINESS, WE TAKE AWAY THEIR POWER TO RUIN YOUNG PEOPLE'S FUTURES.

SO I JUST WANNA SPEAK IN FAVOR OF WHAT STEVE IS ASKING COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, TO CONSIDER DOING, AND AS WELL AS EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, THAT IT IS A, A RELATIVELY SMALL THING THAT WE CAN DO AS INDIVIDUALS THAT HAS AN OUTSIZE IMPACT.

AND THERE ARE MANY YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WOULD BE GRATEFUL TO SEE THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM, WHO HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR FUTURE TO ACTUALLY TAKE POSITIVE ACTION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND SO GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU IN SEDONA.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINA.

OKAY, LAST CALL FOR CHRIS GALLO GRILLO.

UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THE, JUST THE PUBLIC COMMENT OF THAT'S NOT ON, UH, FOR SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA? YOU HAVE ANY MORE, UH, CARDS? NO.

THEN WE WILL CLOSE OUT.

THE PUBLIC FORUM WILL MOVE TO PROCLAMATIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS.

WE HAVE TWO.

I'M REALLY PROUD OF THESE.

AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH, WE HAVE TIMOTHY ESPINOZA, DAVE OLIVAR, AND KAREN PENAL PRI PERMIT.

UH,

[7.a. Proclamation, American Red Cross Month, March 2024.]

THAT WORKS.

THEY'RE OUTSIDE IN THE LOBBY, SO GIVE THEM A LITTLE LEEWAY TO GET IN.

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COME COME RIGHT UP FRONT HERE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THESE PEOPLE DON'T BITE.

BELIEVE ME, .

GOOD EVENING.

WELL, I'M GONNA READ THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO RESPOND.

AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH, MARCH, 2024.

WHEREAS DURING AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH IN MARCH, WE RECOGNIZED THE COMPASSION OF PEOPLE IN SEDONA AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER IN TIMES OF CRISIS.

WHEREAS THIS GENEROUS SPIRIT IS WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ADVANCES THE HUMAN HUMANITARIAN LEGACY OF AMERICAN RED CROSS FOUNDER CLARA BARTON, ONE OF THE MOST HONORED WOMEN IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, WHO NOBLE DEDICATED HERSELF TO ALLEVIATING SUFFERING.

WHEREAS TODAY, KINDHEARTED INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY EXEMPLIFY BARTON'S COMMITMENT AS THEY STEP UP THROUGH THE, UH, ARIZONA NORTHERN, UH, I'M SORRY, ARIZONA, I GUESS NEW MEXICO REGION, TO PROVIDE A BEACON OF HOPE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED.

THROUGH THEIR VOLUNTARY AND SELFLESS CONTRIBUTIONS, THEY MAKE A LIFESAVING DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S DARKEST HOURS, WHETHER IT'S DELIVERING SHELTER FOOD COMFORT DURING DISASTERS, PROVIDING CRITICAL BLOOD DONATIONS FOR HOSPITAL PATIENTS, SUPPORTING MILITARY FAMILIES, VETERANS, AND CAREGIVERS.

THROUGH THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES OF SERVICE SAVING LIVES WITH FIRST AID CPR ARE THE SKILLS AND OR DELIVERING AID AND RECONNECTING LOVED ONES, UH, SEPARATED BY GLOBAL CRISIS.

WHEREAS WE HEREBY RECOGNIZE THIS MONTH OF MARCH IN HONOR OF THOSE WHO LEAD WITH THEIR HEARTS TO SERVE PEOPLE IN NEED.

WE ASK EVERYONE TO JOIN IN THIS COMMITMENT TO STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I SCOTT BLO, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA ON BEHALF OF THE SEDONA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH, 2024 AS RED CROSS MONTH.

I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS IN SEDONA TO REACH OUT AND SUPPORT ITS HUMANITARIAN MISSION ISSUED TODAY, THIS 12TH DAY OF MARCH, 2024.

SOMEBODY, LET'S GET OVER HERE.

THAT'S MY JOB.

A HE SHOULD GO AROUND TO THE THANK YOU MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS RED CROSS IS INDEED A MAJOR ORGANIZATION ON THIS GLOBE, DOMESTICALLY US WE ARE 18,000 EMPLOYEES, BUT THE SPIRIT OF THE RED CROSS IS OUR OVER 200,000 VOLUNTEERS.

WHAT YOU SEE BEHIND ME NEXT TO ME IS THE SPIRIT OF THE RED CROSS.

WE DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE SHORT, TALL, WHITE, BLACK, BROWN, OR GREEN.

IF YOU NEED HELP, WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE.

I'D LIKE TO SPEND JUST A FEW MINUTES TO PROPER, SAY, EDUCATE YOU.

WHATEVER WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH, AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF SERVICE.

THERE ARE FIVE MAIN PARTS TO THE RED CROSS.

FIRST IS DISASTER SERVICES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR.

I HAVE BEEN WITH THE RED CROSS SINCE 2006.

I HAVE WORKED KATRINA SUPERSTORM SANDY, THE LIGHTEST, UH, HURRICANES IN FLORIDA AND FIRES IN CALIFORNIA.

I SEEN THE SAME PEOPLE THERE SOME OF THE TIME, BUT I'VE MADE SOME FAST FRIENDS.

BLOOD, BLOOD IS THE BACKBONE OF THE RED CROSS.

YOU DONATE, WE PROCESS AND WE DELIVER 45% OF THE BLOOD THAT'S USED IN EMERGENCY ROOMS AND HOSPITALS TRAINING.

WE ARE BELIEVERS IN HUMANITY.

WE TRAIN PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THINGS WITHIN THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

THERE ARE 22 CLASSES AMONGST THEM ARE CHILDCARE, FIRST AID, CPR.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AWARE AHEAD OF THE ACCIDENT TO PREVENT THE ACCIDENT SERVICE TO THE ARMED FORCES.

THERE'S A STORY GOING ABOUT THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COUNTRY, FAR, FAR AWAY THAT HAD THIS HIDDEN KIND OF THING AS THEY'RE WORKING THE INTELLIGENCE, THIS YOUNG MAN WAS CALLED IN BY THE COMPANY COMMANDER SAYING, THE OLD MAN WANTS TO SEE YOU.

HE WALKED INTO THE COLONEL'S OFFICE AND HE SAID, HOW DID YOUR MOM GET THIS TELEPHONE NUMBER? SHE CAME THROUGH THE RED CROSS.

THE KID HAD NOT TALKED TO HIS MOM IN SIX MONTHS.

SHE WAS WORRIED.

WE WORKED THROUGH

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INTERNATIONAL SERVICE.

WE PROVIDE SUPPORT TO 120 GROUPS OUT THERE.

LET ME RECHANGE THAT.

IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER, WE'LL PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS AND THE RED CRESCENT.

THERE ARE OVER 120 COUNTRIES PARTICIPATING IN THAT.

LET ME COME BACK TO BLOOD AND DONATIONS.

THAT IS THE BACKBONE OF THE MONIES WE EARN.

COLLECTING BLOOD, PROCESSING BLOOD TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE AND DELIVERING IT TO USE TO SAVE LIVES.

EACH OF YOU IS A CANTEEN OF BLOOD AND A COURT GOES A LONG WAY.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR, THE VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR THIS DECLARATION THAT REALLY DESCRIBED, AND SOMEBODY PUT SOME WORK INTO THAT DOCUMENT TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE SPIRIT OF THE REST RED CROSS PROVIDES.

[7.b. Proclamation, Verde Valley Stand Down, March 27, 2024]

ANOTHER, UH, PROCLAMATION.

JOHN DAVIS AND JACK ROSS, PLEASE COME UP.

BOTH OF THESE ARE FRIENDS OF MINE AND THEY DO FABULOUS WORK FOR OUR VETERANS.

I'M VERY PROUD TO OFFER THIS PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE CITY OF SEDONA DEEPLY RESPECTS AND HONORS THE AMERICAN VETERAN.

AND WHEREAS SEDONA HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROCLAIMED A PURPLE HEART CITY AND IS SINCERELY THANKFUL FOR OUR COMBAT WOUNDED.

AND WHEREAS THE VERDE VALLEY STAND DOWN WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY, MARCH 27TH, 20, UH, 24, IN COOPERATION WITH THE VERDE, VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITIES, AND THE VERDE VALLEY VETERANS SERVICE ORGANIZATION.

WHEREAS THE VERDE VALLEY STAND DOWN IS AN OUTREACH PROGRAM DESIGNED TO ASSIST VETERANS IN THE BETTERMENT OF THEIR LIVES AND WELLBEING.

AND WHEREAS THE VERDE VALLEY STAND DOWN PROVIDES SOMETHING FOR EVERY VETERAN AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND CONNECTS THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND AT RISK WITH ESSENTIAL AND CRITICAL SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS THE VERDE VALLEY STAND DOWN PROVIDES MANY AMENITIES AND BENEFITS, INCLUDING HYGIENE AND HEALTH SUPPLIES, UH, SURPLUS GEAR AND CLOTHING, VISION, HEARING, DENTAL AND MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, HAIRCUTS, VETERAN ENROLLMENT, VETERANS COURT INFORMATION, COVID RELATED ASSISTANCE, ALCOHOL, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, COUNSELING, AND MUCH MORE.

WHEREAS THIS ANNUAL EVENT IS A COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR ALL VETERANS WHO SERVE HONORABLY AND WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE VERDE VALLEY VETERANS WITH THE, UH, CEREMONY AT THE SEDONA ELKS LODGE.

20, UH, 2291 THAT'S RIGHT HERE IN SEDONA, LOCATED ONE 10 AIRPORT ROAD.

NOW, THEREFORE, I SCOTT JALO, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, ON BEHALF OF THE SEDONA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM VERDE VALLEY, STAND DOWN AS A COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT OF THE VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITIES AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS TO RESPECTFULLY ASSIST AMERICAN VETERANS ISSUED THIS 12TH DAY OF MARCH 20, 24.

SECOND.

WE GOT ANYTIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JOHN DAVISON.

I REPRESENT NORTHERN ARIZONA VETERAN STAND DOWNS.

WE'VE BEEN DOING STAND DOWNS IN NORTHERN ARIZONA FOR 13 YEARS.

THIS ACTUALLY IS OUR THIRD YEAR DOING IT IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

WE'VE BEEN ROTATING COMMUNITIES.

SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT SEDONA IS OUR HOST COMMUNITY, UM, THIS YEAR.

AND, AND WE'RE, I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR THIS BECAUSE THE PROCLAMATION SAID IT ALL REALLY.

BUT ANYWAY, WE THANK YOU FOR THE RESPECT THAT YOU HAVE FOR VETERANS.

WE THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH, HOSTING THIS, THIS EVENT.

CITY OF SEDONA MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS, CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND, AND THE SUPPORT OF YOUR STAFF.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE'D LIKE ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SEDONA AREA, AREA VETERAN AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHICH IS ACRONYM IS SAFECO.

JACK ROSS IS HERE.

DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YES.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

I DO WANT TO THANK JOHN PERSONALLY, UH, THE MILITARY ORDER OF PURPLE HEARTS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA FOR INCLUDING SAFECO IN THIS GREAT PROGRAM.

AND SEDONA, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE VETERAN NEIGHBORS AND YOU MAY BE VETERANS YOURSELVES.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND FIND OUT WHAT PROGRAMS

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CAN ASSIST YOU AND MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER.

IT'LL BE A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT JOHN HAS ORGANIZED TO COME TO THE ELKS ON THE 27TH.

IT'S A WEDNESDAY, NINE TO 1400, TWO O'CLOCK.

THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH AND I'LL SEE YOU ALL AT THE EVENT.

ITEM EIGHT, REGULAR BUSINESS EIGHT A.

[8.a. AB 2719 Presentation/public hearing/discussion/possible direction regarding the draft Community Plan and adoption of the Community Plan 2023. (Part 1 of 2)]

ITEM EIGHT, A AB 27 19 PRESENTATION, PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE DRAFT COMMUNITY PLAN AND ADOPTION OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN 2023.

JUST TO LET YOU, EVERYBODY HERE KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO MOVE THROUGH THIS.

AND THEY WON'T MOVE THE ITEM TILL TOMORROW.

SO WE CAN HAVE ALL THE MORE TIME TO HEAR PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT ITEM.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH, UH, TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE HEARD.

SO, UM, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE, UH, EIGHT, A FEW CARDS, FIVE CARDS, I BELIEVE.

SO, UH, MIKE, UH, MCCARTHY IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM HERE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO, UH, AGAIN, START WITH YOUR NAME, CITY OF RESIDENCE, AND, UM, STAY WITHIN THE THREE MINUTES, NOT TO GO BEYOND.

AND WE HAVE ECK, UH, JEAN, UH, LEY, IF YOU CAN COME UP.

UH, MIKE, YOU, YOU'RE UP FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANKS.

I'M MIKE MCCARTHY.

I'M BOTH A SCOTTSDALE AND A SEDONA RESIDENT ON STEADILY HILL.

ON, UH, WHERE WALLOW LANE DOWN THERE.

MM-HMM.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE FOR YOUR PLAN IS TO SEE IF YOU CAN ADD OR LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, UH, ADDITIONAL LOOKING AT SOUND POLLUTION, SOUND MITIGATION.

UM, I KNOW OTHER CITIES LIKE SCOTTSDALE ARE TACKLING THIS NOW.

IT'S BECOMING A BIG PROBLEM.

I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S PLENTY OF SOUND POLLUTION FROM THE HOTELS BLASTING ME WITH, UH, MUSIC FROM WEDDINGS.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WE MAKING SOME PROGRESS, BUT IT'S STILL THERE.

SO I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD ADD THAT IN.

I'D APPRECIATE THAT THERE TOO.

I'D BE GLAD TO BE ON A COMMITTEE WITH YOU ON THAT.

THE SECOND ISSUE I HAD IS IN, UH, THE EPLEY HILLS CFA, THERE'S A PLAN FOR A TRAIL BIKE TRAIL WALKING TRAIL, UH, THROUGH THE CREEK AND UP THE BARE WALL OF WASH.

AND, UH, WHEN THE CFA WAS WORKING ON HIS PLAN, WE ALL SENT LETTERS FROM THE WHOLE AREA.

NOT A GOOD IDEA.

UH, IT'S DANGEROUS.

UH, EVEN I WON'T WALK ALONG THERE.

IT'S ALSO PRIVATE LAND, UH, BECAUSE THE CREEK COMES THROUGH AND CHANGES AS A VERY ROUGH PART OF THE CREEK.

WE CALL THE CITY PLANNERS WHEN THE CFA WAS GOING ON, AND WE SAID IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, BASICALLY WE GOT THAT THIS WAS JUST A PUBLIC RELATIONS KIND OF THING.

SO I'M ASKING THROUGH TO EXCLUDE THAT FROM THE PLAN THAT'S REFERENCED IN YOUR PLAN.

AND SECONDLY, IT RUNS UP BARE WHILE A WASH, WHICH CAN BE SOMETIMES SIX FOOT DEEP, SOMETIMES FILLED IN.

BUT THE MAIN PROBLEM IS FLASH FLOODS THERE, YOU'LL HEAR A SOUND.

IMAGINE A FREIGHT TRAIN IN THIS ROOM, AND YOU HAVE NINE SECONDS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.

I'VE HEARD IT THREE OR FOUR SECONDS.

YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT THAT IS.

THAT GIVES YOU FOUR OR FIVE SECONDS TO GET UP THE HILLS.

SO WHILE IT'S A GOOD DREAM, IT'S REALLY NOT PRACTICAL.

SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE A DREAM IN ANOTHER PLACE? TAKE THIS OFF THE MAP.

UH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, AS YOU WORK ON THIS.

OKAY, JEAN AND THEN MIRIAM, UH, WECKER LEE.

I'M MIRIAM WECKER LEE.

UM, JEAN'S MY HUSBAND.

SO I'LL BE TALKING TODAY FOR BOTH OF YOU.

FOR BOTH OF US.

THAT'LL BE THREE MINUTES EACH.

NO, WELL, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

I MEAN, I, I WOULD, BUT IF YOU, IF HE'S, IS HE HERE? YES.

SO HE'S GOING TO TALK FOR, OH, YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GONNA TALK FOR SIX MINUTES IS WHAT YOU, OKAY.

I JUST WANNA BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

WE HAVE TO, I, I, I WON'T OVERTALK I WILL JUST STATE WHAT I NEED TO SAY AND THEN I WILL PUT THE NEXT PERSON.

BUT WE HAVE TO SET THE CLOCK APPROPRIATELY.

THERE'S A DOZEN HOMES THERE, AND WE OWN THE PROPERTY.

SO, GO AHEAD.

UM, MY NAME IS MIRIAM ACKERLEY.

WE HAVE A HOME THAT W WE BUILT 40 YEARS AGO ON, UH, THE CREEK ACROSS FROM LE BEARS.

AND THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC CREEK WALK.

IF I AM HEARING IT RIGHT, AND AGAIN, I'M WITH MIKE.

UM, THE DAMAGE TO THE CREEK WOULD BE OUTRAGEOUS.

NOT ONLY WITH EROSION OF THE CREEK BY HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE YOU WOULD BE HAVING TO TRESPASS THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY.

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AND FOR SOMEONE TO JUST COME ALONG WITH 12 FEET OF CREEK WALK DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.

IT WOULD BE IN MY LIVING ROOM, BASICALLY.

YOU HAVE BEEN MAYOR ON MY DECK.

I HAVE BEEN.

UM, AND IT, IT, I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT PLAY IN THAT YARD.

UM, IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS.

IT, IT ALREADY IS GREEN WITH ALGAE AND POLLUTION FROM WHAT'S GOING ON THAT COMES DOWN THE CREEK, THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC, THE UM, THE TRESPASSING OF OUR PROPERTY.

WE HAVE SIGNS ALL UP AND DOWN BARE WALLOW.

AND YET PEOPLE CONSTANTLY ARE IN OUR YARDS COMING ACROSS THE CREEK.

I HAD A NEIGHBOR, SOME WOMEN WALKED ACROSS THE CREEK FROM THE OTHER SIDE, PEED IN A BUCKET AND THREW IT ON HER, ON HER DECK.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT DOES GO ON WHEN YOU HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST.

MY HUSBAND AND THE MEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CLEAN THAT CREEK OUT EVERY SINGLE YEAR AFTER THE FLOODS.

EVERY SINGLE, EVERY SINGLE, UH, SPRING.

AND THERE'S A LOT.

THOSE TREES ARE FALLING DOWN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE EROSION WE HAVE LOST ACROSS THE CREEK TREES THAT ARE, THAT ARE 200 YEARS OLD THAT HAVE JUST FALLEN INTO THE CREEK AND IT'S ERODED.

ANY OF YOU ARE INVITED TO COME AND LOOK, BUT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE MASSES.

AND I THINK THIS CITY NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, NOT THE, THE THREE TO 6 MILLION PEOPLE THAT COME TO VISIT.

JUST COMING DOWN TO THIS MEETING THIS EVENING WAS A NIGHTMARE.

AND THE TRAFFIC GOING THAT WAY WAS SOLID COMING BOTH WAYS.

MAYBE THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED MORE THAN ANY OTHER ISSUE AT ALL IN THIS CITY.

FOR ALL OF US, FOR ALL OF US AND THE TOURISTS.

BUT TO OPEN IT UP AND POLLUTE IT CAUSE MORE BACTERIAL GROWTH, CAUSE MORE EROSION.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THAT FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL, INCREDIBLE CREEK THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE.

THERE ARE OPEN SPACES, UM, SLIDE ROCK.

WHOA, THAT, THAT HASN'T WORKED OUT VERY WELL.

UM, AND, AND THERE'S RESTAURANTS, THERE'S, THERE'S CAMPING GROUNDS.

PEOPLE WANNA SEE THE CREEK.

THERE ARE WAYS TO SEE IT AND THEY'RE OPEN.

BUT I WOULD, I WOULD PRAY AND HOPE, AND WE WILL AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL COSTS BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT FOR THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY.

MIM ERNIE TRO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, CRAIG SWANSON.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR JABOT, VICE MAYOR PLU AND COUNSELORS.

I'M ERNIE STRAU, A SEDONA RESIDENT FOR 26 YEARS, FORMER S VICE MAYOR AND CURRENT MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN WORKING GROUP.

I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN EACH OF THE LAST THREE COMMUNITY PLANS.

BEFORE I CONTINUE AND MAKE SOME VERY STRONG STATEMENTS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT CRITICAL OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, SOUTHWEST DECISION RESOURCES, NOR ANY MEMBER OF THE WORKING GROUP.

IF ANYTHING, I THINK WE ALL EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS, BUT YOU, MY FRIENDS, HAVE BEEN PLACED IN A STRANGE CONUNDRUM.

AS YOU KNOW, BY ARIZONA STATUTE, YOU MUST COMPLETE A COMMUNITY PLAN EVERY 10 YEARS.

HOWEVER, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 30 YEARS, THE COMMUNITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST APPROVING THE PLAN THAT IS DESIGNED TO GUIDE YOU IN YOUR FORMAL DECISION MAKING.

ONLY YOU GET TO APPROVE YOUR OWN GUIDANCE PLAN.

AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR GUIDANCE PLAN AT ANY TIME, YOU CAN JUST CHANGE IT WITH A MAJOR AMENDMENT.

SO COINCIDENTALLY ALSO, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 30 YEARS AS A SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, OR SEDONA HAS A SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, ENCOURAGED OUR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER EXPANDING CITY LIMITS BY ANNEXATION OF ADDITIONAL PRIVATE LANDS.

I PASSED OUT SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU SEE ITEM EIGHT, PAGE 48 OF DRAFT NUMBER

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FOUR.

CONVERSELY, THE COMMUNITY PLAN CURRENT ONE SAYS ON PAGE 25, SINCE INCORPORATION IN 1988, THE CITY HAS NOT PURSUED ANY ANNEXATION OF ADJOINING LAND.

ALSO, A KEY ISSUE, UH, STATED ON THE SAME PAGE IS DESIRE TO GROW ONLY WITHIN CURRENT LIMITS.

NEITHER PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS NOR THE GROUP WORKING GROUP EVER ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF WHETHER SEDONA SHOULD ATTEMPT TO GROW OUTSIDE OUR CURRENT BOUNDARIES.

WHEN BROUGHT UP BY P AND Z, I USED MY THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AGAINST OPENING THIS CAN OF WORMS TO OBVIOUSLY NO AVAIL.

NEW COUNCILS MAY ACCEPT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE SPRAWL AND CONGESTION TO THE VERDE VALLEY AS COTTONWOOD DID WITH SPRING CREEK RANCH.

SO I URGE AND IMPLORE YOU TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH ALL PREVIOUS PLANS.

AND STRIKE THE EIGHTH LAND USE ACTION ON PAGE 48.

UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE, UM, ERNIE I THINK KNOWS THIS, BUT I WILL SAY IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL YOU IN THE ROOM.

THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY PLAN APPROVED BY VOTERS ONLY APPLIES IN STATE LAW TO COMMUNITIES OVER 10,000 PEOPLE.

SEDONA LOST POPULATION.

IT'S LESS THAN 10,000.

AND WE, FOR TWO YEARS, LAST YEAR, WE TRIED TO GET THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO ALLOW US TO PUT THE MEASURE OF COMMUNITY PANEL APPROVAL BEFORE THE VOTERS, AS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T DO IT.

THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT, THEY DIDN'T DO IT.

UH, AND WE HAVE NO LEGAL MECHANISM TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY DECIDED NOT TO DO THIS.

WE WERE, I AGREE.

THANK YOU ERNIE.

WE WERE PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW AND WE ARE TRYING AGAIN THIS YEAR TO GET THAT AMENDMENT, TO GET THAT CHANGE IN THE LAW THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ONCE AGAIN PUT IT BEFORE THE VOTERS.

BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T US GANG, IT WAS YOUR STATE LEGISLATURE.

AND WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AHEAD AND TRIED TO DO IT LAST YEAR AND THEY REFUSED.

SO I JUST WROTE TO CORRECT THE RECORD.

DO, DO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH US? WE REALLY WANT YOU TO VOTE ON IT.

WE DON'T EVEN, WE'RE NOT EVEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.

ANYWAY.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.

I'M NOT TAKING, I CAN'T TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.

PLEASE.

UH, CRAIG, YOU'RE UP AND YOU HAVE, UH, ROGER EASTMAN WILL BE FOLLOW, WILL BE FOLLOWING YOU.

CRAIG.

MY NAME IS CRAIG SWANSON.

I'M A RESIDENT OF, UH, SEDONA AND I'M REPRESENTING KEEP SEDONA BEAUTIFUL.

I WAS GONNA SECOND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE STATE NOT REQUIRING, NOT ALLOWING THE CITY TO DO THAT.

IT'S CLEARLY IN THE STATUTE.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY PARENTHETICALLY, THAT THE REASON COTTONWOOD AND X SPRING CREEK RANCH IS SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENCIRCLE THE STATE TRUST LAND THERE.

SO IF AND WHEN THAT IS EVER SOLD, IT CAN BE ANNEXED INTO COTTONWOOD.

THAT WAS THEIR REASON FOR ANNEXING THAT LAND.

I'M GONNA KEEP MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE PLAN SHORT.

I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PLAN.

I THINK THE FAILING IN IT NOW, WHICH IS RECTIFIABLE, IS READABILITY.

THERE ARE TOO MANY BULLET POINTS IT DOESN'T READ WELL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE PLAN.

AND I URGE YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PLAN IN TERMS OF ADJUSTING THE LANGUAGE OF IT FOR READABILITY, PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT USED TO READING A COMMUNITY PLAN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

IS REALLY ONE OF YOUR MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS BECAUSE THIS IS EVERY 10 YEARS WHEN YOU DECIDE THE FUTURE OF SEDONA, WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE HERE, HOW THE RESIDENTS ARE AFFECTED BY GROWTH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THANK YOU, CRAIG.

OKAY, ROGER, UH, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY KATHLEEN.

TODD, IF YOU CAN COME UP, STAND SOMEWHERE NEARBY.

KATHLEEN TODD, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY, JUST STAND NEARBY, ROGER.

THREE MINUTES.

YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.

ROGER EASTMAN, 80 PEAKY DRIVE, JUST DOWN THE ROAD HERE IN SEDONA.

SO THIS IS A BIG NIGHT FOR YOU.

THE ADOPTION OR AMENDMENT OF A GENERAL PLAN, OR OUR SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN

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SO I WANNA GO BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO 1893.

THE WORLD'S COLUMBIA EXPOSITION IN CHICAGO.

AND DANIEL BURNHAM.

DANIEL BURNHAM, THE FATHER OF PLANNING AND IN THE UNITED STATES SAID, MAKE NO LITTLE PLANS.

THEY HAVE NO MAGIC TO STIR MEN'S BLOOD, MAKE BIG PLANS, AIM HIGH IN WORK, AND HOPE LOFTY WORDS.

BUT TODAY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN REALLY MAKE THOSE BIG PLANS THAT DANIEL BURNHAM WAS INTENDING WITHOUT FIRST TAKING BABY STEPS.

MARY AND I HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND WHILE I THINK THE HOUSING GOAL IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN REALLY IS A WORTHY GOAL, IT'S SOLID, IT'S REALISTIC, IT REALLY SETS A BIG AMBITION FOR HOUSING.

I QUESTION SOME OF THE POLICIES IN THE HOUSING SECTION, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE SOME BABY STEPS TOWARDS GETTING TO THAT REALISTIC HOUSING GOAL.

SPECIFICALLY I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND I WON'T USE ACRONYMS, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

ADU IS THE ACRONYM FOR THAT.

AND I EXPLAINED IN MY LETTER THAT HOPEFULLY YOU ALL RECEIVED WHY I THINK SOME CHANGES, SIMPLE WORD CHANGES IN THE POLICY STATEMENT AND THE ACTION STATEMENT WILL HELP US TAKE THAT BABY STEP FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

WE ALREADY ALLOW A DU, EXCUSE ME, GUEST HOUSES.

GUEST HOUSES ARE REALLY ADUS WITHOUT THAT FULL KITCHEN, WITHOUT THE STOVE.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE THEM AND THEY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A LIVING UNIT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR A COUPLE.

SO YES, AS THE MAYOR AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT, A DU THAT GUEST HOUSE COULD BECOME A VACATION RENTAL AND THE CITY CAN DO VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT.

MAYBE NOTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVES.

THE OWNER LIVES ON THE PROPERTY IN THE MAIN HOUSE OR IN THE A DU.

NOW, LET'S FACE IT, WE'RE ALL AGING.

AND IF WE PROVIDE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO AGE IN PLACE ON THEIR PROPERTIES, POTENTIALLY AN OLDER COUPLE COULD MOVE INTO THE A DU AND THEIR FAMILY COULD LIVE IN THE BIGGER HOUSE OR VICE VERSA.

AND EVEN IF THE A DU OR THE GUEST HOUSE BECOMES A A VACATION RENTAL, THERE'S STILL SOMEBODY LIVING ON THE PROPERTY.

SO THE PROBLEMS OF THOSE BIG PARTY HOUSES ARE MITIGATED AND WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS RATHER THAN THE HOUSE BEING EMPTY FOR AN UNSPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME.

SO I'VE OBVIOUSLY RUN OUT OF TIME, BUT I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TO THINK ABOUT LETTING ADUS BECOME PART OF OUR POLICY.

KATHLEEN TODD WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE THOMAS.

THANK YOU, ROGER.

HELLO, MY NAME IS CATHERINE TODD AND I ACTUALLY LIVE IN SEDONA.

GOOD.

UM, SO I DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF TIME 'CAUSE I WORKED DURING THE DAY AND I WAS JUST TOLD ABOUT THIS MEETING.

SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF THIS DOESN'T SOUND QUITE RIGHT.

UM, SO I FEEL THAT WE AS SEDONA RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE MORE OF A SAY IN WHAT THE CITY PLANS.

BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO THE OPEN HOUSE, THERE WERE PEOPLE USING THE STICKY NOTES, UH, TO VOTE YES OR NO ON THE HOT BUTTON POINTS, WHO LIVE OUT OF STATE, UH, WHO'S WHO VOTE IN THEIR OWN HOMETOWNS AND THEY CAN THEY, THEIR VOTE COUNTED IN OUR SEDONA CITY PLAN.

AND I WATCHED THEM DO IT.

AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND THEN I ASKED, UM, SOMEBODY LIKE, HOW ARE, ARE YOU GUYS COUNTING THESE? ARE YOU, ARE THESE ACTUALLY COUNTING AS SOMETHING? AND THEY SAID, YES, THESE, THESE STICKY NOTES COUNT, WHICH I WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF SHOCKED AT.

UM, SECOND POINT, UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CULTURAL PARK SHOULD BE USED FOR EITHER LOW INCOME HOUSING OR THE HOMELESS CAR PARKING.

WE PAID 21, EXCUSE ME, $23 MILLION FOR THE PURCHASE.

AND IT SHOULD BE USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF SEDONA RESIDENTS, NOT PEOPLE WHO DESIRE TO LIVE IN SEDONA.

UH, AND THEN I ALSO, UH, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE TERM WORKFORCE HOUSING.

PEOPLE ARE KEEP USING IT, UM, WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND SO EVERYBODY'S BEHIND, LET'S GET WORKFORCE HOUSING.

UM, BUT I'VE SAT IN ON A MEETING, UM, THAT WAS, UH, ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING BEHIND THE STA OR NEXT TO STAGE COACH.

AND THE LAWYER REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT ALTHOUGH THEY'RE CALLING A WORKFORCE HOUSING, THEY CANNOT LIMIT THE HOUSING TO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SEDONA.

SO IT'S NOT WORKFORCE HOUSING.

SO AT THE SEDONA PLANNING OPEN HOUSE, I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH MAYOR

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JALO AND, AND ASKED IF WE COULD LIMIT THE TAXPAYER FUNDED HOUSING.

'CAUSE THAT'S TRULY WHAT IT WILL BE TO POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS AND HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND TEACHERS AND PEOPLE WHO WE REALLY NEED HERE.

AND THAT THE TAXPAYERS WOULD BE THRILLED TO PULL IN THAT THE RESIDENTS OF SEDONA WOULD BENEFIT FROM.

UM, AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE SEDONA TOURISM, BUT THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS OF SEDONA BENEFIT FROM HAVING THESE TEACHERS AND HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AND TRUE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I WAS TOLD, UM, THAT DUE TO HOUSING LAWS, THERE CAN BE NO LIMIT TO EMPLOYMENT AND THAT, SO IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY FORM OF TAXPAYER FUNDED HOUSING UNLESS WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT ONLY PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SEDONA SHOULD BE GRANTED ACCESS.

THANK YOU KATHLEEN.

UH, MICHELLE THOMAS WILL BE OH YEAH, AND THEN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY UH, CAROL WYATT.

WYATT.

CAROL WYATT WILL BE NEXT.

GO AHEAD.

UH, MICHELLE, START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE, PLEASE.

I'M MICHELLE THOMAS AND I LIVE IN, UM, SCOTTSDALE.

I'M HERE FOR MY GRANDPA.

UM, HE HAS WHERE SCOTTSDALE IS WHERE I LIVE, BUT I'M HERE FOR MY GRANDPA WHO HAS A HOUSE IN SEDONA.

AND, UM, I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS, CONCERNS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY FOCUS PLAN.

YOU GUYS PUT THE POTENTIAL FOR PUBLIC CREEK ACCESS OR CREEKSIDE PARK.

IT'S VERY VAGUE.

IS THIS FOR TOURISTS? HOW ARE YOU GUYS GONNA KEEP IT CLEAN? WHAT ABOUT PORTA-POTTIES TRASH, I MEAN SLIDE ROCK, IT'S CLOSED MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR DUE TO POLLUTION.

ARE YOU GUYS GONNA POLLUTE THE CREEK IN THE SAME SENSE? UM, YOU GUYS PUT AGAIN, THE ANNEXATION OF LAND, EXPANDING CITY LIMITS.

IT'S VERY VAGUE.

WHAT LAND ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO TAKE? HOW ARE YOUR MEANS OF GETTING IT? IS IT IMMINENT DOMAIN? WHAT ARE YOU PAYING FOR IT? HOW DO THE RESIDENTS GET TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENED WITH IT? UM, NEXT POINT IS, UH, FOR THE, UM, YOU GUYS PUT PURSUE WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPER TO ENSURE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PRESERVES THE OAK CREEK CORRIDOR, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR CITY ACQUISITION FOR PERMANENT PROTECTION.

YOU GUYS DON'T PROTECT WHAT YOU HAVE.

YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO PUT A HOMELESS PARK IN A PARKING LOT AND NOW YOU WANNA TAKE THE CREEK.

SO ARE YOU GUYS GONNA HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVE ON THE CREEK? ARE THEY GONNA BE TRESPASSING INTO OUR HOUSES? MY GRANDPA BUILT THIS HOUSE BEFORE SEDONA WAS EVEN A CITY.

IT IS HIS PRIDE AND JOY AND I WANNA PROTECT IT FOR HIM.

HE CAN'T BE HERE 'CAUSE HE'S TOO OLD TO MAKE IT UP HERE TO SPEAK, BUT I'M HERE FOR HIM.

UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, YOU GUYS PUT ALL OF THESE THINGS OF PATHWAYS.

THE PATHWAYS ARE AT THE FOOTSTEPS OF HIS HOUSE.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA DO FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING THE PATHWAY GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE WASH.

RIGHT NEXT TO THE WASH IS MY GRANDPA'S HOUSE.

ARE YOU GUYS GONNA, HOW ARE YOU GONNA STOP THE TRESPASSING? 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE TRESPASSING AS IT IS.

WE'VE HAD, OUR HOUSE IS BROKEN INTO.

WE'VE HAD TO INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS, WE'VE HAD STUFF BROKEN.

WE'VE HAD TO GET PEOPLE TO LEAVE OUR DRIVEWAYS THAT THEY'VE DECIDED THAT THEY'RE GONNA CAMP IN.

SO I MEAN, AS A, AS A HOMEOWNER, HE DOESN'T FEEL PROTECTED.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, THE TRAFFIC YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THE CFA TO ADD A HOTEL AT THE FOOT OF SNOBBY HILL.

UM, IT'S GONNA BE I THINK LIKE AN 80 SOMETHING ROOM HOTEL.

THE TRAFFIC TO GET INTO SEDONA TODAY TO COME TO THIS MEETING WAS INSANE.

THE ROUNDABOUT ON SCHLEY HILL IS INSANE.

TO ADD ANOTHER HOTEL THAT HAS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING TO IT IS INSANE.

THE TRAFFIC IS COMPLETELY OVERWHELMING HERE.

IF YOU TALK TO ANYONE THAT'S A RESIDENT OF ARIZONA, THEY SAY THEY DON'T GO TO SEDONA BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.

THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE ARE OUT OF TOWN AND THEY'RE TOURISTS.

AND I THINK THE BIGGEST THING BEFORE YOU WORK ON ANY PUBLIC ACCESS TO ANYTHING HOMELESS CAMP IS MAKE IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND SO THEY CAN GET OUTTA TOWN SAFE.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IF THERE WAS A FIRE, YOU'D BE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.

AND WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? WALK ON FOOT OUTTA TOWN? IT JUST, YOU GUYS' PLANS.

DON'T LOOK FOR PROTECTION OF THE RESIDENTS OR THE HOMEOWNERS.

YOU GUYS ARE ONLY LOOKING AT TOURISM.

MICHELLE.

WE HAVE CAROL WYATT? YES.

I'M SORRY.

HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME? WYATT.

WYATT.

IT IS WYATT.

UNITS IS A WAY TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE HOMES IN SEDONA WITHOUT ADDING MORE ACREAGE OR NEEDING TO EXPAND THE, THE CITY BOUNDARIES AT ALL.

IT'S LIKE IF YOU HOLD YOUR NOSE.

THANK, THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.

MAYOR, UH, JALO AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I, I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT AFFORD, ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IN SUPPORT OF THE ADUS OR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING

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UM, MY, MY OLDER SON AND HIS FAMILY LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS AND THEY, THEY NEEDED TO REPAIR THEIR GARAGE AND WHILE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THEY DECIDED TO EXPAND THE GARAGE, ADD A SECOND STORY ONTO IT, AND TO USE IT AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

UM, AND THEIR IDEA IS THAT THEY WILL RENT IT OUT NOW, BUT THEY ALSO PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN SO THAT AS THEY AGE, THEY COULD MOVE INTO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND RENT THEIR HOUSE OUT.

SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT, IT IS A, A WAY TO AGE IN PLACE EVEN AS YOUR SPACE NEEDS DWINDLE.

AND I JUST WANNA SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO THINK MORE ABOUT ADUS.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT HASN'T ALREADY SPOKEN? OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT SESSION.

MR. MAYOR, IF WE COULD JUST CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TILL TOMORROW.

WE WILL CON YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO, TO TOMORROW SO THAT WE, THIS ONE TOPIC.

SO WE CAN GIVE AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN TO THE, UH, NEXT, UH, ITEM OF SAFE PLACE TO PARK.

WE'LL BE CONTINUING THIS, UH, THIS TOPIC TOMORROW, TWO O'CLOCK.

EVERY, ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SHOW UP TOMORROW FOR THAT ONE TOPIC OR ANY TOPIC? ACTUALLY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN PORTION TOMORROW, AND WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE NOW WITH THE SAFE PLACE TO PARK.

OKAY? OKAY.

CAN I ASK YOU TO PLEASE KEEP YOUR VOICES DOWN BECAUSE IT ALL, IT DOES CARRY UP HERE MORE.

ARE THERE ANY CHAIRS OPEN? WELL, WE HAVE HERE BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING, SO IF THERE'S ANY VACANT SEATS, COULD YOU TELL US WHERE THEY ARE AND THEN PEOPLE COULD COME IN? OKAY.

ITEM B, AB 30 36 PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF HIS OWN CHANGE, ZC TO AMEND THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO ADD SAFE PLACE TO PARK PROGRAM AS PERMITTED USE TO 75 CULTURAL PARK PLACE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE FORMER CULTURAL PARK.

OKAY,

[8.b. AB 3036 Public Hearing/discussion/possible action regarding a request for approval of a Zone Change (ZC) to amend an existing PD (Planned Development) to add the “Safe Place to Park” Program as a permitted use at 75 Cultural Park Place (northwest corner of former Cultural Park). The property is within the Western Gateway Community Focus Area, is ±6 acres, and is located northwest corner of the intersection of W State Route 89A and Cultural Park Place. APN: 408-47-009A The requested Zone Change an amendment to the permitted uses in the existing PD (Planned Development). Case Number: PZ24-00002 (ZC) Owner/Applicant: City of Sedona (Shannon Boone).]

THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE WESTERN GATEWAY COMMUNITY FOCUS AREA IS, UH, WITH A, UH, SIX, SIX ACRES PLUS, PLUS OR MINUS SIX ACRES, AND IS LOCATED NORTH, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST 89 A AND CULTURAL PARK PLACE.

OKAY, UH, A PN 40, UH, 4 0 8 4 7 DASH 0 0 9.

A REQUEST ZONE, CHANGE TO AMENDMENT.

UH, THE PERMITTED USES THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S THE, ALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, CODES.

GATEWAY COMMUNITY FOCUS AREA.

AND THE DATE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE STAFF HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, OUR PRESENTATION.

YES, THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MAYORS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

UM, I AM JOINED BY OUR HOUSING STAFF AND WE'RE GONNA, UM, TAG TEAM THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE, UM, HAD A WORK SESSION ON THIS ITEM, AND YOU'VE HAD, UM, PACKETS TO READ AND COMMENTS TO READ.

I, WE DON'T WANT TO GO IN TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME GOING INTO ALL OF THOSE DETAILS.

WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

BUT, UM, THIS PRESENTATION, WE'LL JUST GIVE KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

UM, SO AS THE MAYOR STATED, THIS PROJECT IS TO CONSIDER A, UM, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE ALLOWED USES AT, UM, ON A PORTION OF THE CULTURAL PARK, UM, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE CULTURAL PARK.

UM, AND THIS, THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT IS OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT.

UM, THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY IS THIS, UM, CORNER OF THE CULTURAL PARK.

SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE CULTURAL PARK, BUT TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS AREA HERE.

UM, THIS AREA IS PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC AND PLANNED AREA IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, AND IS ALSO PART OF THE WESTERN

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THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS A SITE PLAN SPECIFIC ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR SPECIFICALLY THE USES THAT WERE REVIEWED AND APPROVED WHEN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE CULTURAL PARK, UM, CONCERT VENUE.

THIS AREA WAS A PARKING LOT FOR THAT CULTURAL PARK.

UM, SO THAT'S HOW IT WAS DEVELOPED, BUT THE PROPOSED USE OF THE SAFE PLACE TO PARK PROGRAM WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED AS THE PERMITTED USE ON THIS LAND FOR THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, AGAIN, THIS SIDE HIGHLIGHTS THE, THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE.

UM, YOU HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL DOWN HERE.

YOU HAVE THE MARRIOTT HOTEL HERE, PARK PLACE DEVELOPMENT HERE, THE SEDONA SUMMIT HERE, AND THE HOTEL HERE.

JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND THERE'S ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UM, THAT SHOWS WHERE OR HOW THE SITE WOULD BE LAID OUT.

IF THIS PROJECT WERE APPROVED, YOU HAVE THE ENTRANCE HERE.

THERE WOULD BE A, A GATE AND ENTRANCE SIGN COMING DOWN INTO THIS AREA OF THE CULTURAL PARK.

THE SITE MANAGER WOULD BE LOCATED HERE AS, UM, PARTICIPANTS WOULD ENTER THE PROGRAM AS A PLACE TO CHECK IN THIS AREA OVER HERE WOULD HAVE THE PORTABLE SHOWERS AND RESTROOMS, AND THAT WOULD BE WHERE THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE A DA SPACES AND RV PARKING.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE PARKING SPACES WOULD BE IN THIS AREA HERE.

UM, PUBLIC INPUT, THE REQUIRED 300 FOOT RADIUS THAT OUR CODE REQUIRES FOR NOTICING OF PUBLIC HEARINGS DID NOT IN ONLY INCLUDED CITY OWNED PROPERTIES IN THE FOREST SERVICE PROPERTY.

SO OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT DID EXPANDED RESEARCH AND GOING OUT AND TALKING WITH LOCAL GROUPS AND BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS.

AND ALL OF THAT OUTLINED THAT THEY DID IS OUTLINED IN YOUR PACKET, AND THEY CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

UM, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE AND WE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENTS SINCE WE POSTED IT, AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVEN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED ANYTHING SINCE THE PACKET WENT OUT.

SO THERE WAS NOTHING TO UPDATE, UM, AS YOU SOMETIMES GET UPDATES THE DAY OF THE HEARING.

UM, AND SO IN LOOKING AT THIS, WE REVIEWED WHETHER THIS PROJECT WOULD IMPLEMENT THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND THE CFA PLAN OR NOT.

AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS HOUSING DIVERSITY AND SUPPORT OF NON-TRADITIONAL HOUSING, WHICH ARE CALLED OUT AS AREAS THAT THESE PLANS SUPPORT.

UM, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND SUPPORT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE MASTER PLANNING OF THE CULTURAL PARK.

SO THE CFA PLAN DOES SPECIFY THAT THE ENTIRE CULTURAL PARK SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A WHOLE, AND THAT IS THE CITY'S INTENT.

UM, AS WE STATED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING ON THIS ITEM, THIS, THIS WOULD NOT EXCLUDE THIS AREA FROM BEING PART OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.

THE CITY IS WORKING ON STARTING THAT MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, BUT WE ARE WAITING UNTIL THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS DONE JUST TO HAVE THAT, THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND ALSO TO NOT OVERWHELM OUR STAFF.

UM, BUT THIS PORTION, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THAT.

IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.

UM, BUT THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE, UH, NOT, IT WON'T BE A QUICK PROCESS.

THERE IS PUBLIC OUTREACH, THERE'S PLANNING INVOLVED, AND THEN ONCE IT'S ADOPTED, THERE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION WILL NEED TO HAPPEN.

AND SO EVEN IF WE ARE VERY EFFICIENT AND USING OUR TIME AND GETTING THAT MASTER PLANNING THROUGH, THAT'S, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE WE SEE SOME KIND OF GROUND BE BROKEN FOR ANY KIND OF PROJECT THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THAT PROCESS.

AND SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL OF HOW THIS LAND COULD BE USED IN THE MEANTIME TO, UM, SUPPORT THE LOCAL WORKFORCE.

UM, THERE ARE FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL DETAILED IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, BUT WE LOOK AT PREVIOUS APPROVALS, THE ADOPTED PLANS, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, IMPACTS ON PROPERTY OWNERS, ENVIRONMENTAL AND FINANCIAL IMPACTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT THE CITY HAS.

SO STAFF DID REVIEW AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LEVEL, AND WE DID A HEARING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024.

THEY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

UM, ALL OF THIS AS WELL, HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND

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ULTIMATELY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT ON A FOUR TO ONE VOTE.

UM, WITH COMMISSIONER MARTIN DID VOTE NO, SHE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THE WESTERN, THAT THE PLAN MET THE, UM, GOALS OF THE WESTERN GATEWAY PLAN.

COMMISSIONER ESKI AND COMMISSIONER BRAM DID NOT, WEREN'T, WEREN'T PART OF THE VOTE.

AND THEN THE OTHER FOUR CHAIR, LEVIN VICE CHAIR HOSSAINI COMMISSIONERS HURSTON WHEEL DID, UM, ADOPT STAFF'S EVALUATION OF THE PROJECT AS THEIR FINDINGS AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

SO THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS OR IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON, MUST TALK TO MY LEFT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY? NOT AT THIS TIME.

COUNCILOR FURMAN.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT.

CARRIE, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE PRESENTATION.

MY, UH, FIRST OF MY QUESTIONS HAS TO DO WITH, UH, FENCING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS OF YOUR THOUGHTS RELATIVE TO FENCING.

MY QUESTION, UH, AND CONCERN IS REALLY ABOUT THE FOREST SERVICE BOUNDARY ON THE WEST END OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND I'M GONNA USE THE OG TERM.

THERE'S CRYPTOBIOTIC SOIL IN THERE.

I'M, I NOW UNDERSTAND MOST, WE JUST CALL IT BIO CRUST, BUT OG IS CRYPTOBIOTIC SOIL THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.

WE IN THE CITY AND IN THE FOREST SERVICE, UH, GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO NOT IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, IN THAT MANNER.

SO I, AND I'M THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE MONITOR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE A LOT OF NIGHTTIME USE, BUT I SUSPECT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO WALK IN THE FOREST AT NIGHT TO DO THINGS THAT THEY WANNA DO.

AND MY CONCERN IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR CURRENT THOUGHTS OR WHAT ARE YOU COMMITTING TO RELATIVE TO PROTECTING THAT FOREST SERVICE BOUNDARY? SO WE HAVE HEARD THAT FEEDBACK AND WE DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE FENCING OF THOSE TWO SIDES.

UM, WE ARE THINKING AT THIS TIME THAT THAT WOULD BE A POST AND CHAIN TYPE OF FENCING AROUND THOSE TWO SIDES.

WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU JUST, WE, I'M NOT GONNA STOP ANY, ANYONE FROM LAUGHING OR ANY, JUST KEEP IT DOWN.

PLEASE TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.

MAYOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY POSTING CHAIN.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.

ONE OF MY THOUGHTS IS THAT THERE ALREADY IS A LOT OF THREE OR FOUR STRAND FOREST SERVICE, BARBED WIRE FENCING THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE IN CHARACTER WITH WHAT THE FOREST SERVICE DOES IN THESE KIND OF AREAS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO? OR THERE IS A LARGE SECTION THAT ALREADY HAS THE, THE THREE WIRE FOREST SERVICE TYPE FENCING.

SO YES, THAT'S FEASIBLE AS WELL.

HAS THE FOREST SERVICE COMMENTED ON THIS ISSUE AT ALL WITH YOU? HAVE YOU ENGAGED WITH THEM IN THIS CONVERSATION? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

COUNSELOR.

I HAVE ENGAGED WITH THE FOREST SERVICE AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT CONSISTENCY WITH THE POST AND BARBED WIRE FENCING.

UM, SO I THINK IF WE CONTINUE THAT AROUND THE BOUNDARY THAT IMMEDIATELY ABUTS THE FOREST LAND, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT WE DO.

AND, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO.

I, I DON'T KNOW QUITE WHERE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THIS ISSUE, BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY THOUGHT THROUGH AND YOU'RE COMMITTING TO DOING THAT? OR DO WE NEED TO YES, SIR.

PUT, WE DON'T NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE TERMS, UH, UH, IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THEN AT THIS POINT, I'M WILLING TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MY SECOND QUESTION, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA MORPH AND DO A THREE QUESTION.

SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE TREATMENT OF THE GRAY WATER ON THE PROPERTY.

I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, I WANNA JUST BE CLEAR THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH A DEQ.

WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE THAT WE WANNA PROTECT THE WASHES THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE FOREST SERVICE PROPERTY AS WELL.

AND, AND WE'RE TAKING STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN WITH THE, THE GRAY WATER.

I SEE.

YEAH.

I'D SAY YES.

AND KURT HARRIS IS ALSO HERE AND HE'S OUR RESIDENT EXPERT ON GRAY WATER.

I THINK IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M JUST GONNA PUT HIM ON THE SPOT.

OUR PHASING OF THE, THE GRAY WATER AND THE USE OF THE SHOWERS.

I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION, KURT.

IT WAS ABOUT, UH, THE GRAY WATER RETENTION ON THE SITE AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PROTECT THE, UH, THE, THE DRY WASHES OUT THERE FROM AND, AND THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT EXISTS OUT THERE, THAT, THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY A RELEASE OF WATER.

YES, SIR.

UM, PART OF THE PRE-APPLICATION, MEANING WE JUST HAD WITH A DQ, WAS DIRECTLY ABOUT WATER MONITORING AND WATER BALANCE.

UH, PART OF THAT WOULD BE

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SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING, GOING TO TREE WELLS.

UH, THE TREE WELLS WOULD, UH, FIRST OF ALL FROM THE SHOWERS, WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A DISTRIBUTION BOX TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS EQUAL FLOW GOING FROM THE SHOWERS TO THE TREE.

SO YOU'RE NOT OVER WATERING YOUR FIRST INITIAL TREE AS YOU'RE GOING.

SO WE COULD USE THE SYSTEM IN SERIES OR PARALLEL AND WHAT THE PLAN WAS, WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND WATER THE, THE, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ABOUT EIGHT TREES.

AND THEN THERE'S AN AREA THAT WE DEFINED AS OUR, OUR CATCH AREA.

SO LIKE IN THE WINTER MONTHS WHERE YOUR EVA TRANSPIRATION AREAS, THAT'S WHERE WE, THE, THE, UH, FINAL WOULD GO IF WE HAD, UH, THAT MUCH USE OF SHOWERS.

UM, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE ARE VERY DIFFERENT ON HOW THEY SHOWERS.

IT CAN BE PEOPLE WHO WANNA SHOWER EVERY DAY.

THEY CAN TAKE A, YOU KNOW, FIVE UH, GALLON SHOWER, THEY CAN TAKE A 20 GALLON SHOWER.

IT ALL DEPENDS.

SO IT'S A VERY VARIABLE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING IN, IN THE REPORT TO BE A PHASED MONITORING APPROACH TO SEE HOW THE USE IS AND BASED ON THE USE.

THEN WE WERE GONNA ALLOCATE THAT DISCHARGE TO THOSE TREE WELLS AND THOSE AREAS WOULD BE GONNA BE FENCED.

UM, THAT'S TO PREVENT THE USERS TO GET ACCESS TO GRAY WATER AND ALL THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, WE'RE GONNA MONITOR AS WELL TO MAKE SURE ABOUT VECTORS, UM, AND OTHER, OTHER INTANGIBLES.

BUT IT'S A MOVING THING.

SO IN THE SUMMER TOO, THEN YOUR EVA TRANSFER GOES WAY UP.

SO IT MIGHT BE GOING TO THE FIRST COUPLE OF TREES.

THOSE ARE THINGS YOU KIND OF MONITOR.

THE A DQ WAS QUITE SUPPORTIVE TOO, BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT DURATION TO YEAR PROJECT.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH CONCERNS.

AND SORT OF THE MONITORING OF OUR SUCCESS, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM, IS THAT GONNA BE OUR CONTRACTOR, KURT? IS THAT GONNA BE YOU AND YOUR STAFF? I THINK IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

WE'D WORK WITH THE HOUSING MANAGER THERE AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR STAFF.

WE'RE GONNA BE OUT THERE, UM, MONITORING THE SITUATION ANYWAYS, LOOKING AT DRAINAGE, ALL THAT AS PART OF WHAT WE DO.

UM, AND THEN ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A CALL OUT OR ANY ISSUE, WHAT WOULD BE THERE.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S TO PLUM THE SHOWERS.

UM, AND THEN THAT WAS ALSO A BACKUP PLAN.

IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE GRAY WATER.

WE, THERE'S THE ACTUAL STORAGE ON THE SHOWERS THAT WE WOULD HAVE X AMOUNT OF DAYS OF STORAGE WITH ON THE SHOWERS THAT WE CAN GET IT RESOLVED.

GREAT.

WELL, I, I APPRECIATE THOSE ANSWERS.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, WE HAVE GIVEN IT THE THOUGHT THAT I, I, I THOUGHT WE DID, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY SEE IT IN THE PACKET.

I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

MY LAST QUESTION IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT METRICS FOR REPORTING.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS YOU INTEND TO REPORT, WHETHER IT'S A DOH REPORTING.

I THINK MY MORE CONCERN IS ABOUT REPORTING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OPERATION OF THIS PROGRAM.

SO I'LL START THERE.

TELL ME WHAT YOU, YOU THINK THE METRIC REPORTING THAT YOU INTEND TO DO IS.

SO I DO HAVE THAT IN MY PRESENTATION.

GREAT.

UM, I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE DOING THE ZONING PIECE FIRST, BUT I CAN GO AHEAD WITH THAT PRESENTATION WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DEFER THAT TO THE, TO THE RIGHT.

WE'LL WAIT TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, DID YOU HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS DONE? 'CAUSE I'D LIKE KURT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO ADD TO WHAT YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT.

ARE YOU DONE? SEE WHAT KURT SAYS? BUT YES, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THE VERN, THE METRIC REPORTING THING TO ANOTHER SPOT IN THE PRESENT.

KURT, I JUST, FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE, MAY, MAY NOT KNOW WHAT A DEQ IS.

OH.

SO CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF AN ORGANIZATION THEY ARE AND IT'S A LEGITIMATE ORGANIZATION.

YES, SIR.

UH, YES, MAYOR, THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, A DEQ.

UH, THE PERMIT HAS TO GO THROUGH THEM BECAUSE WE'RE ASSUMING IT'LL PROBABLY BE OVER A 3000 GALLON PER DAY MAX FLOWS.

SO IT CAN'T BE DELEGATED THROUGH, UH, YAVAPI COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU'RE GOOD VICE MAYOR.

UH, I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ABOUT OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE LOOKING AT OR ALREADY HAVE EXISTING PROGRAMS, AND THEY DO PRIORITIZE, THEY DO HAVE THEIR WORKFORCE AS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

UH, I HAVE QUESTIONS 'CAUSE I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

I'VE READ.

IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN ADVANCE.

I'VE READ, PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP ON SITE AT THE, THE DAY THAT THEY WANT TO BE PART.

I'VE READ THAT THE, THEY'LL HAVE TO SIGN IN A GROUP.

PEOPLE WHO STAY AT, IN THIS FACILITY WOULD HAVE TO, WELL NOT IN THE FACILITY, BUT IN THEIR CARS, IN THIS PARKING AREA, WOULD HAVE TO, UH, AGREE TO SERVICES, WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

I'VE READ THAT THEY DON'T, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT, ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

SO I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ABOUT THAT.

ALSO,

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I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T DO IT.

THEY'RE IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT, THEY'RE UNDER THE RULES OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS.

THEY HAVE THE, THEY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE SAME LEGAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE DO.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OTHER CITIES CAN PRIORITIZE THEIR WORKFORCE AND WE CAN'T.

SO LET'S START WITH THE APPLICATION THEN WE'LL GO TO THAT QUESTION.

YEAH, YEAH.

THERE WAS A POINT OF ORDER HERE, MAYOR WAS A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE DESK ABOUT, WE HAVE MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT ARE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE THE SAME TOPIC.

ONE IS THE ZONE CHANGE, THE OTHER IS THE PROGRAM.

I FELL INTO THAT TRAP TOO.

HOW DO YOU WANNA HANDLE THIS, MAYOR, ABOUT WHAT TOPICS YOU WANNA TAKE ON NOW? WELL, THIS IS JUST A ZONING.

YOU, YOU DO HAVE MORE PRESENTATION.

MORE PRESENTATION.

SO WOULD THAT QUESTION ALSO BE HANDLED BY YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION? OKAY.

SO WHY DON'T WE JUST FOCUS ON, WELL HOLD THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.

BUT FOR ME, I CAN'T VOTE ON THE ZONING WITHOUT ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

WELL, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, BUT I CAN'T.

THAT'S FAIR.

YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.

RIGHT.

BUT I, I HAVE A, SHANNON'S GOING TO BE GIVEN A MORE OF A PRESENTATION.

SO, SO HOW ARE WE, HOW WE GONNA HANDLE THIS? THIS IS, THIS IS QUESTIONS.

SO WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS NOW.

I, I KNOW, BUT THESE ARE QUESTIONS ON THE PROGRAM.

RIGHT.

AND THAT IS THE SECOND PRESENTATION.

SO I DON'T WANNA VOTE ON THE FIRST WITHOUT HEARING THE SECOND.

OF COURSE.

I, I UNDERSTAND.

SO WHY DON'T WE JUST CONTINUE, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS NOW OF THE ZONING TO FINISH UP THE ZONING, OTHERWISE WE COULD JUST GO TO SHANNON WITH THE SECOND PORTION.

SO ALL THOSE, THE QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED BEFORE WE OF COURSE, BEFORE WE DO ANY KIND OF A, A VOTE.

SO, WELL, SIR, I'M SORRY, I'M, I AM NOW CONFUSED.

THIS IS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, NOT THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE DO, I THINK, AND I'M LOOKING AT KURT, KURT, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT, NO, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THEY'RE, THEY, FOR LEGAL REASONS, THEY WERE PUT ON AS TWO SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE AWKWARD TO COMBINE THEM.

UH, BUT YOU CAN HOLD, YOU CAN DO THESE TWO IN ANY ORDER.

UM, AND YOU CAN DISCUSS THEM BOTH AND TAKE PRESENTATIONS ON BOTH AND THEN DO YOUR VOTES ON BOTH AT THE VERY END.

YEP.

WHICH IS WHAT I HAD TOUCHED.

JESSICA? WHAT? YES, I JUST, THERE'S ONLY ONE MOTION IN THE PACKET, RIGHT? THERE'S NO, THERE'S 2 0 1 FOR EACH ITEM.

BUT THEY CAN, LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN BOTH BE DONE AT THE VERY END.

WHENEVER, WHEN COUNSEL'S READY TO DO BOTH MOTIONS, THERE'S, THERE'S, AND THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY EVEN AN ORDER.

THE, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO THE REZONE BEFORE APPROVING THE CONTRACTS.

'CAUSE OTHERWISE THE CONTRACTS WOULDN'T BE VALID.

BUT COUNSEL CAN DO THOSE IN ANY ORDER THEY WANT WHOEVER'S SITTING, AGAIN, LEANING AGAINST THE, THE LIGHT SWITCH ON THE WALL, PLEASE , PLEASE TURN IT BACK ON.

YES, THANK YOU.

I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO BE SUSTAINABLE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT.

VICE MAYOR DOES THAT ADDRESS, I GUESS WOULD BE YOU'RE CONSIDER WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE TWO OF THEM AT THE END.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON MY PRESENTATION, I CAN ANSWER THEM.

OTHERWISE WE CAN HAVE SHANNON DO HER PRESENTATION.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, COUNCILOR FOLTZ ON, UH, CARRIE'S PRESENTATION.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YOU ALREADY TOUCHED ON IT, CARRIE, REGARDING THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.

BUT HAVING SEEN SOME, UH, OTHER COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, STEVE, IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE THE RFP FOR THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS TO GO OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.

IS THAT FAIR? YES.

AND THAT WILL COVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE CULTURAL PARK PROPERTY? CORRECT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

COUNCIL DUNN, I WILL HOLD MY QUESTIONS TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT, CARRIE, I BELIEVE YOURS HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, BUT PLEASE, I'M SURE YOU WANNA STICK AROUND.

OH, I'LL, I'LL STAY.