Apr 23, 2024 City Council

OKAY.

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WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT FOUR 50 JANUARY, UH, APRIL 23RD, 2024.

PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR RICHES SAND ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN LIBERTY WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND NOW A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

[2. ROLL CALL]

HERE, VICE MAYOR PLU.

PRESENT.

COUNCILOR DUNN? HERE.

COUNCILOR FOLTZ? STILL HERE.

COUNCILOR FURMAN? HERE.

COUNCILOR KINSELLA.

PRESENT.

COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON.

HERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CONSENT

[3. CONSENT ITEMS - APPROVE]

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE ITEMS TO BE PULLED BY EITHER CITY STAFF, UH, THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEMS A THROUGH C? I MOVE APPROVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH C.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OH, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

APPOINTMENTS.

ITEM FOUR.

WE HAVE NONE.

ITEM FIVE.

UH, SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MYSELF, THE COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, OR, OR THE, UH, COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? NO.

OKAY.

MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE

[6. PUBLIC FORUM]

YES, YOU DO.

NO.

? YES, WE DO.

OH, OPEN AND CLOSED ALREADY.

OH, SORRY.

MR. MARTINEZ, THIS IS A LITTLE LATE DAY LATE.

THE DOLLAR SHORT STORY.

MY LIFE.

DON'T SIT DOWN.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA OPEN PUBLIC FORUM.

UH, IS MR. JOHN MARTINEZ HERE? I DON'T.

DOES ANYONE SEE HIM? I, I DON'T.

HE MAY HAVE LEFT YOU WISH.

OKAY.

JOHN NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENT, JUST LIKE IT SAYS RIGHT HERE.

UH, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

MADAM.

UH, MR. MAYOR MADAM VICE MAYOR.

MY NAME IS JOHN MARTINEZ AND I STILL LIVE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA.

I COME BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THIS SATURDAY'S SEDONA SYMPHONY CONCERT AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

SEDONA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, FEATURING CARLOS NAKA.

NOW, THIS SATURDAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IS DIFFERENT WHAT OUR NORMAL SEDONA SYMPHONY PERFORMANCES ARE USUALLY ON SUNDAY AT TWO 30.

BUT THIS SATURDAY WE HAVE THE HONOR OF HAVING CARLOS NAKA WORK WITH THE SEDONA SYMPHONY.

CARLOS NAKA IS A NAVAJO UTE, HAS NAVAJO UTE HERITAGE, AND IS THE, THE WORLD PREMIER PERFORMER OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN FLUTE.

SINCE PLAYING THE TRADITIONAL NATIVE FLUTE, HE HAS RELEASED MORE THAN 50 ALBUMS AND SOLD MORE THAN 4.3 MILLION OF THEM.

HE HAS RECEIVED 11 GRAMMY NOMINATIONS IN FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

HE HAS, MR. NAKA IS ALSO A NAVY VETERAN, GO NAVY AND EARNED A MASTER'S DEGREE IN AMERICAN INDIAN STUDIES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.

HE RECEIVED AN HONORARY DEGREE, DOCTORATE DEGREE, EXCUSE ME, FROM NORTHERN, FROM NAU AND WAS AWARDED THE ARIZONA GOVERNOR'S ART AWARD IN 1992.

IN 2005, CARLOS NAKA WAS INDUCTED INTO THE ARIZONA MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT HALL OF FAME.

THIS SATURDAY'S CONCERT ON APRIL THE 27TH IS SPONSORED IN PART BY A GRANT FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA.

SO PLEASE ATTEND, GO TO THE PERFORMANCE IF ANY OF YOU THAT'S, I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE GONE TO THE CONCERT FOR THE SEDONA SYMPHONY, FOR THE CLASSICAL PERFORMANCES, THERE'S ALMOST 700 SEATS IN THAT PERFORMANCE VENUE.

OVER 500 SEATS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOLD.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD SEATS STILL AVAILABLE.

SO PLEASE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SEVERAL OF YOU BE THERE 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T PLAY EVERYWHERE, EVERYWHERE.

BUT WHERE HE DOES, IT'S SOLD OUT AND EVERYBODY'S STANDING OVATION.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SEE YOU ON SATURDAY.

OKAY, ANY OTHER CARDS? ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED? OKAY.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM PROCLAMATION,

[7.a. Proclamation, Sexual Assault Awareness Month, April, 2024.]

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WE HAVE ONE OF MY FAVORITE ORGANIZATIONS.

SO TRACY, YOU WANNA COME UP AND STAND BY THE PODIUM IS A PROCLAMATION FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH APRIL, 2024.

WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH CALLS ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD AND IMPACTS EVERY PERSON IN EVERY COMMUNITY.

UH, SAM, WHICH IS THE ACRONYM, AIMS TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE, HARASSMENT, AND ASSAULT, AND EDUCATE COMMUNITIES ABOUT HOW TO BE INVOLVED IN PREVENTION.

AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S SAM, UH, CAMPAIGN THEME, BUILDING CONNECTED COMMUNITIES CALLS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TO WORK TOGETHER TO PREVENT SEXUAL ABUSE, HARASSMENT, AND ASSAULT.

WE MUST STRIVE TO BUILD MORE CONNECTED, RESPECTED, AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES TO PROMOTE OUR COLLECTIVE WELLBEING AND PROTECT AGAINST THE RISK OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

AND WHEREAS SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS COMMON, OVER HALF OF WOMEN IN ALMOST ONE IN THREE MEN, UH, HAVE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL VIOLENCE INVOLVING PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL, UH, CONTACT DURING, UH, THEIR LIFETIMES.

ADDITIONALLY, ONE IN THREE WOMEN AND ABOUT ONE IN NINE MEN EXPERIENCE SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN A PUBLIC PLACE.

AND WHEREAS THE ROOT CAUSE OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS POWER AND OPPOSITION OPPRESSION, EXCUSE ME, WE CANNOT, UH, ERADICATE SEXUAL VIOLENCE UNTIL WE RECOGNIZE AND ELIMINATE OPPRESSION IN ALL FORMS. AND WHEREAS WITH LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, ENCOURAGEMENT, THERE IS COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING SEXUAL VIOLENCE THROUGH PREVENTION, EDUCATION, INCREASED AWARENESS, AND HOLDING, UH, UH, PERPETRATORS WHO COMMIT ACTS, UH, VIOLENCE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

AND WHEREAS WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HOW TO, UH, SUPPORT SURVIVORS.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF SEDONA STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF NATIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL PARTNERS AND OF EVERY CITIZEN, UH, WHO ACTIVELY ENGAGES IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE EFFORTS, INCLUDING, UH, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS, HOW TO PREVENT IT, HOW TO HELP SURVIVORS CONNECT WITH SERVICES, AND HOW EVERY SEGMENT OF OUR SOCIETY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BETTER ADDRESS SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

EXCUSE ME.

AND WHEREAS STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS OF ANTI-VIOLENCE PROGRAMS AT VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY ENCOURAGE EVERY PERSON TO SPEAK OUT WHEN WITNESSING ACTS OF VIOLENCE, HOWEVER SMALL AND SUPPORT VICTIMS OF, OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

AND WHEREAS THE VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY PROVIDES COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES OF SURVIVORS, UH, SURVIVOR SEXUAL VIOLENCE PROVIDES A SEXUAL ASSAULT FRIENDS AND FAMILY GUIDE ON THEIR WEBSITE AT, UH, UH, HTTPS VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY.ORG PROVIDES YOUTH EMPOWERMENT SERVICES TO TEACH CHILDREN YOUTH HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS FROM KINDERGARTEN TO HIGH SCHOOL, AND PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT GROUPS AT THE COTTONWOOD SEDONA CAMP VERDE LIBRARIES.

AND WHEREAS, WELL, YOU WROTE THIS UP ALONE, MM-HMM.

.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF SEDONA SHARES A CRITICAL CONCERN FOR THE SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND A DESIRE TO SUPPORT AND THE, UH, THE NEEDS OF JUSTICE AND HEALING.

NOW, THEREFORE, I SCOTT BLO, THE MAYOR OF CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA, ON BEHALF OF OF THE SEDONA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL, 2024 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF SEDONA.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I DO, UH, HERE UNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE A SEAL, UH, UH, CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA TO BE AFFIXED, UH, THE 23RD DAY OF APRIL, 2024.

AND I DID THAT ALREADY.

OKAY.

SO TRACY MCCONNELL IS A PERFECT PERSON TO RECEIVE THIS.

WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS IMMEASURABLE.

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A FEW WORDS? I WOULD UP AT THE PARTY? YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GREETINGS MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW CITIZENS, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS PROCLAMATION AS A DECLARATION TO JOIN HANDS ACROSS SEDONA, UM, TO PREVENT SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND SUPPORT SURVIVORS.

ALL FORMS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE AT ITS CORE IS A DEVASTATING ABUSE OF POWER AND HAS LASTING EFFECTS ON SURVIVORS AND THEIR LOVED ONES AS EVERY STAGE OF THEIR LIVES.

IT IS CRITICAL FOR EACH OF US TO STAND UP AND ACKNOWLEDGE THIS ISSUE, IMPROVE THE LAWS AND SERVICES AVAILABLE TO SURVIVORS, AND TO CHANGE THE CULTURE AND

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THE VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY DOES PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

WE ARE HERE A SEXUAL ASSAULT, FRIENDS AND FAMILY GUIDE ON OUR WEBSITE, SO THAT YOU CAN BE GREAT SUPPORTERS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS.

UM, WE ALSO DO PROVIDE YOUTH EMPOWERMENT SERVICES TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS.

AND WHAT ARE RED FLAGS TO THOSE RELATIONSHIPS? EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT GROUPS AT COTTONWOOD, SEDONA, AND CAMP VERDE LIBRARIES ARE REALLY WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES FOR SURVIVORS TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH IN SAFE, UM, AND COMFORTING AND SUPPORTIVE, UM, WAYS.

IF YOU OR ANYONE THAT YOU LOVE HAVE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL VIOLENCE AT ANY POINT IN YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

THERE IS SUPPORT AND SAFETY WAITING FOR YOU.

AND YOU CAN REACH VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY'S CRISIS LINE AT 9 2 8 6 3 4 2 5 1 1, AND YOU MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN YOU CALL.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY.ORG.

I REALLY DO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS PROCLAMATION AND TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT THIS ISSUE IS PREVALENT AND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IT STOP.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE.

OKAY,

[8.b. AB 3051 Discussion/possible action regarding the approval of a Sister Cities Friendship Agreement with Canmore, Alberta Canada, including a presentation and update by Sedona Sister Cities’ Board of Directors Chair Chuck Marr on their activities and accomplishments.]

IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, OPPOSITION, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP ITEM B UH, FIRST.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION AT ALL? OKAY, WELL, WE, DEVELOPERS ARE HERE.

YES.

I I'M GONNA MOVE UP.

ITEM B MAYOR, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR EIGHT A WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT A OKAY.

BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA REVERSE THEM.

OKAY.

UH, SO EIGHT B FIRST WILL BE AB 30 51 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE SISTER CITY'S FRIENDSHIP AGREEMENT WITH CANMORE, ALBERTA, CANADA, INCLUDING A PRESENTATION AND UPDATE BY THE SEDONA CITY CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS CHAIR CHUCK MOORE ON THEIR ACTIVITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

AND WE WILL GET TO ITEM A IN A FEW MINUTES.

TAKE THIS OVER HERE.

YES.

PRESENTATION.

WELL, MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I HOPE WE CAN BRING YOU SOME GOOD NEWS TONIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE A, AN UPDATE ABOUT OUR SEDONA LOOK TO THE MIC, CHUCK.

WE HAVE AN UPDATE ABOUT OUR SEDONA SISTER CITIES GROUP, AND THEN A REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE A FRIENDSHIP CITIES AGREEMENT WITH CANMORE.

UM, WE'RE NOW STARTING THE THIRD YEAR OF SISTER CITIES.

UH, IT'S BEEN QUITE A TIME, UH, BECAUSE WE FIRST HAD TO REALLY, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF FINDING A COMPATIBLE CITY FOR OUR UNIQUE CITY.

AND, UH, IT TOOK US ABOUT A YEAR TO GET OURSELVES OR, OR, OR, OR ORGANIZED.

AND, UH, THEN WE, UH, UH, UH, STARTED TO, TO HAVE TRIPS, UH, WITH CANMORE.

WE HAD, UH, FOLKS FROM, FROM, UH, HERE GO UP THERE AND VISIT, UH, JUST TO MEET SOME PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT THE CITY WAS LIKE.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS GO UP DURING THIS LAST YEAR AND A HALF.

UH, WE'VE HAD THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS COME DOWN HERE.

ONE BEING THE, UH, MAYOR, MAYOR CROSSER, WHO CAME, UH, IN FACT A YEAR AGO AND WAS HERE IN THIS, UH, COUN CHAMBER, UH, SHARING HIS THOUGHTS ABOUT THEIR, THEIR, UM, UH, CITY.

UM, OUR GOAL, OF COURSE, WAS TO FIND A COMPATIBLE FOREIGN CITY, UH, OF THE APPROXIMATE SIZE OF OUR AREA, A CITY OF NATURAL BEAUTY, A CITY ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES OF TOURISM, AS WELL AS A FOCUS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND, UH, ALSO WE HOPE TO FIND ONE THAT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH SO FOLKS COULD TRAVEL BACK, BACK AND FORTH.

AND IN CANMORE, WE THINK THAT WE FOUND THE, THE, UH, RIGHT PARTNER.

DURING THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE, UH, HAD, AGAIN, VARIOUS GROUPS GOING BACK, BACK AND FORTH.

AND I, I, UH, UH, DO WANNA MAKE THE, UH, POINT THAT ALL TRAVEL, ALL COST IS BORNE BY THE VOLUNTEERS OF OUR GROUP.

THERE'S NO CITY COST IN

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UM, EVERYBODY THAT HAS TRAVELED TO EITHER SITE HAS COMMENTED ON, ON HOW SIMILAR THESE CITIES ARE.

UH, NOT ONLY ARE THEY SURROUNDED BY A NATURAL BEAUTY, AND NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE A CHALLENGE OF TOURISM, BOTH PRO AND CON, BUT THEY'VE GOT THE SAME ISSUES THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.

HOW DO YOU GET, UH, PEOPLE EMPLOYED? WHAT ABOUT HOUSING? AND, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY AMAZING AS YOU TALK TO, TO THEIR LEADERS OF, UH, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO STRU STRUGGLE WITH.

IT'S THE SAME THING THAT YOU ARE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND WE REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S A, A LOT THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER IN, UH, SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT COMMON ISSUES WHILE ENJOYING TWO BEAUTIFUL CITIES.

UM, ROB SEALEY, WHO CAME DOWN TO SEE US ABOUT, UH, ABOUT TWO MONTHS, MONTHS AGO, AND HE'S A, A CHAIR OF THEIR ROTARY CLUB, IS ALSO CHAIR OF THE SISTER CITIES KENMORE COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, UH, HE'S FORMED A VERY UNIQUE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE, BE THERE FOR THE LONG TERM, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT AS CITY COUNCILS CHANGE, AS MAYORS CHANGE, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP OVER TIME, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE GROUPS ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE WORKING WITH EACH OTHER, UH, IN, IN VARIOUS TYPES OF, UH, PROPER PROJECTS AND EXCHANGES.

UH, WINNIE MINCH, WHO'S OUR TREASURER OF OUR BOARD, UH, DID A, UH, A, UH, A A UH, SHORT VI VIDEO, UH, THAT WE SENT UP TO THEIR COMMITTEE AS THEY WERE LOOKING AT, AT THE VARIOUS STEPS THAT WE'RE TALK, TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING.

AND IF, IF POSSIBLE, WE'D LIKE TO SHOW THAT TO YOU.

NOW,

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IT'S A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND IT ISN'T A SISTER CITIES AGREEMENT BECAUSE THIS IS SORT OF AN INTERIM STEP.

AND WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN IS A, BOTH CITIES AND THEIR TOWN CO COUNCIL IS SET TO, UH, VOTE ON THIS ON MAY 7TH.

UM, THAT IT MEANS THAT THE TWO CITIES THEN WOULD, UH, FOR FORMALLY START WORKING IN TERMS OF VARIOUS EXCHANGES.

RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THE TWO LIBRARIES TALKING TO TWO TO EACH OTHER, AND WE'RE PLANNING A, A, UH, SUMMER, UH, STUDENT TRIP, UH, BOTH WAYS.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE POSSIBLE, BUT THEY REALLY CAN'T HAPPEN UNTIL YOU REALLY GET BOTH CITIES SAYING, YEP, LET'S DO IT.

AND, UH, SO I ASKED HAR, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU REALLY CALL THIS FRIENDSHIP AGREEMENT? AND SHE SAID, IT'S SORT OF FIXING TO GET MARRIED, .

UH, SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ENGAGED, BUT WE ARE FIXING TO GET READY TO GET MARRIED.

.

YEAH.

SO, UH, QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL PETE.

THANKS, MAYOR.

YOU'VE BEEN OKAY.

VICE MAYOR, YOU WANNA GO? THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAY.

I THINK THEY USED TO CALL IT PINNED IN THE OLD DAYS.

, PETE, THANK YOU MAYOR CHUCK AND CAROL, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS AGAIN FORWARD, AND I CONTINUE TO BE IMPRESSED WHENEVER I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THESE AGREEMENTS.

YOU MENTIONED CONTINUOUSLY THE ITEMS THAT I KNOW, TRIP UP SISTER CITIES, UH, UH, RELATIONSHIPS IN, IN OTHER PLACES.

THINGS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKING IT SUBJECT TO POLITICAL WHIS, NO CITY DOLLARS, AND THE, UH, ABSOLUTE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A SUSTAINABLE AND CAPABLE COMMITTEES OF RESIDENTS, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THESE THINGS LIVE.

AND I HEAR THAT EVERY TIME YOU'VE COME TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND I CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU THUMBS UP FOR, FOR, UH, FOR PRESENTING IT THAT WAY.

AND I THINK THIS IS MARVELOUS PROGRESS.

I HAPPEN TO TALK TO FOUR PEOPLE FROM CANADA, ONE GROUP OF, OF FOUR PEOPLE, UH, JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO ON ONE OF MY WALKS, UH, AROUND TOWN.

AND THEY WERE FROM EASTERN PROVINCES NORTH OF DETROIT, NORTH OF, UH, NEW YORK, UH, UH, UH, NIAGARA FALLS.

BUT WHEN I MENTIONED CANMORE TO THEM, AND THEY JUST STARTED ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ME PROMPTING, LISTING OFF THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES, IT WAS REALLY, IT'S WILD, YOU KNOW, GRATIFYING, UH, ABOUT THE, THE IDENTIFICATION THAT YOU'VE MADE AND THE PROGRESS THAT YOU'VE MADE.

SO, CONGRATULATIONS AND YEAH, I'M WHOLLY AND SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, UH, COMMENTS, ANYTHING? OH, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT PETE MENTIONED.

KATHY, ANYTHING AGREE? OKAY, MAYOR, UM, IF I, I MIGHT, I, UH, WENT ONLINE, UH, TO THEIR TOWN COUNCIL, AND AGAIN, THEY, THEY HAVE SIX PLUS THE MAYOR, AND THEY HAVE A VISION STATEMENT FOR THEIR TOWN COUNCIL, WHICH I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.

BOLD LEADERS COMMITTED TO PEOPLE DEVELOPMENT, SOCIAL JUSTICE, COMMUNITY BUILDING, AND PROTECTING OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND RESPONDING TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY A POWERFUL STATEMENT, AND THEY'RE ALL REALLY GREAT PEOPLE.

SECOND, A MOTION, PLEASE, VICE MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SISTER CITY'S FRIENDSHIP AGREEMENT WITH CANMORE CANADA.

SECOND, SECOND.

THAT, OKAY.

MELISSA DUNN WOULD BE SECOND.

JOE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

VICE MAYOR HAS A COMMENT.

IT WAS, I KNOW WHAT OUR MOUNTAINS LOOK LIKE, BUT IT WAS REALLY HARD TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO IN THAT VIDEO.

IT WAS FABULOUS.

WELL, AND HALF OF IT WAS

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OH.

OH, NO.

WINDOW .

BUT, UM, CAN'T GIVE WINNIE CREDIT, HUH? WELL, OF COURSE I DID.

SHE SHE'S ON THIS, SHE, SHE DID THE WHOLE THING.

SHE PUT THE WHOLE THING.

UH, BUT, UH, ON THE, UH, 19TH OF MAY, WE'RE HAVING A MEMBER AND GUEST, UH, ACTIVITY AT MARY FISHER.

AND, UH, WE'RE HOPING IF IT WORKS OUT TO HAVE BOTH MAYORS ZOOM AND SIGN THE, THE, THE AGREEMENT.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS WHOLE PROJECT.

THANK YOU BOTH, AND THANK WENDY FOR US AS WELL.

OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO, TO

[8.a. AB 3048 Public hearing/discussion/possible action regarding a request for Preliminary Plat approval to subdivide ±2.65 acres into a 4-unit single family subdivision at 741 Forest Road (Bowers Subdivision). The property is zoned Single Family Residential (RS-18) and is located northwest of the intersection of State Route 89A and Brewer Road. APN: 401-38-012.Case Number: PZ21-00020 (SUB) Owner: 741 Forest Road LLC (David Bowers) Authorized Representative/Applicant: Sefton Engineering (Luke Sefton).]

UH, REGARDING A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL TO SUBDIVIDE, UH, 2.5 2.65 ACRES INTO A FOUR UNIT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AT 7 41 FOREST ROAD, THE BOWERS SUBDIVISION, EXCUSE ME, THE PROPERTY ZONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RS 18 AND IS LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION.

WOW.

DRY INTERSECTION OF, UH, STATE ROUTE 89 A AND BREWER ROAD, A PN 4 0 1 DASH 38 DASH 12.

CASE NUMBER PZ 21 DASH TWO SUB, UH, OWNER, UH, IS THE 7 41 FOREST ROAD, LLC DAVID BOWERS, AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE.

APPLICANT IS SEF ENGINEERING AND LUKE IS HERE TO REPRESENT.

AND CARRIE, WHEN DID YOU SNEAK IN? WOW.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE'LL JUST HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND, UM, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPLICATION THAT IS BEING BROUGHT TO COUNCIL TONIGHT.

THIS IS WHAT THE PLAT LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COVER PAGE.

UM, SO PLATS ARE REQUIRED WHEN YOU ARE CREATING MORE THAN THREE LOTS.

UM, THE PLATTING PROCESS HAS A COUPLE DIFFERENT STEPS.

SOME ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL APPLICATIONS, SOME ARE ONLY REQUIRED IF YOU GO OVER 10.

SO THIS DID NOT HAVE A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW.

WE'RE IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE DURING THIS STAGE.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION.

CITY COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION AND THEN, UM, A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT WOULD BE NEXT IF NECESSARY.

UM, AND THEN A FINAL PLAT.

SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SEE THIS ONE MORE TIME ON A CONSENT AGENDA, BUT THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT OR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

UM, AGAIN, PRELIMINARY PLA GOES THROUGH STAFF REVIEW, THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEW, AND THEN COMES TO CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S ALL LAID OUT IN A VERY EXCITING SECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO READ THAT SCINTILLATING READ .

UM, SO THIS PLOT IS IN THE AREA SHOWN IN GREEN.

YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IT AS THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY BUILDING THE FOREST ROAD EXTENSION THROUGH.

UM, SO IF WE GO TO THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD BEING CUT IN.

THIS WAS, THE ROAD IS FURTHER ALONG IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

UM, THIS, WHAT IS PROPOSED IS A FOUR UNIT SINGLE FAMILY SUB SUBDIVISION WITH TWO LOTS ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT THE CITY IS BUILDING.

UM, WORKS OUT TO ABOUT ONE AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE CITY IS CONSTRUCTING THE ROAD.

OFTENTIMES WITH THE PLATTING PROCESS, WE GET THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

SINCE WE'RE REVIEWING THOSE FOR CONFORMANCE WITH ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT IN THIS ONE BECAUSE THE CITY IS BUILDING THE ROAD.

SO WE'RE JUST REALLY LOOKING AT THE DIVIDING UP OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THE COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSITY, WHICH IS HALF TO TWO UNITS PER ACRE.

IT IS ZONED RSS 18, WHICH REQUIRES AN 18,000 MINIMUM WATT SIZE, UM, MAXIMUM DENSITY OF TWO UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, THE PLAT AS PROPOSED MEETS ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS.

THE FUTURE HOMES WOULD BE SUBJECT TO OUR STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS.

AND SO WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE HOUSES.

ONCE THOSE COME THROUGH, WE WILL REVIEW THEM THROUGH OUR ESTABLISHED PROCESS.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLOT.

YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD COMING THROUGH HERE WITH THE TWO LOTS ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

ZOOM IN A LITTLE MORE.

THESE LITTLE, THERE'S VARIOUS EASEMENTS, SOME FOR SHARED USE PASS, SOME FOR DRAINAGE.

EACH LOT YOU CAN SEE HERE HAS THIS GRAY SQUARE THAT IS A SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LIMITING THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS ON THE ROAD.

UM, BECAUSE AS THE FOREST ROAD EXTENSION, WE ARE EXPECTING A HIGHER VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

SO WE, UM, ADDED THAT IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING A LOT, WELL, MORE CURB CUTS THAN NECESSARY.

UM, THIS IS HOW IT

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IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT'S ABOUT, IT FITS IN WITH THE SIZE OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE ACCESSED OFF TO THE NEW ROAD.

THERE'LL BE TWO LOTS ON EACH SIDE AND THERE WILL BE SHARED DRIVEWAYS.

UM, SO THE SUBDIVISION WAS REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE, WITH ARTICLE SEVEN OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS AN EVEN MORE EXCITING READ THAN ARTICLES EIGHT.

UM, AND STAFF FOUND THAT IT MET ALL OF ALL REQUIREMENTS AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT INCLUDING THE SINGLE FAMILY DESIGN OF THE HOUSES AS PART OF THIS SUBDIVISION REVIEW.

UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS WERE THE ONLY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD COMMENTS AND THE APPLICANT ADDRESSED ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS THROUGH RESUBMITTAL OF PLANS, UM, OR THEIR ABOUT FUTURE CONDITIONS AND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED MOVING FORWARD.

AGAIN, THERE'S MUCH LOWER, MUCH FEWER CONDITIONS IN A TYPICAL PLAT BECAUSE OFTEN THE CONDITIONS ARE RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD, WHICH AGAIN, THE CITY IS UNDERTAKING.

SO WE DID NOT PUT THOSE CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICANT.

ALL OF THE REQUIRED PUBLIC INPUT HAS HAPPENED AND WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT.

SO, UM, SO AGAIN, THIS PROCESS FACILITATES THE PRELIMINARY PLANNING PROCESS.

STAFF DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED PLA, THE COMMISSION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 19TH AND ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

AND SO NOW WE ARE HERE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE.

AND LUKE IS HERE.

HE DOES NOT HAVE A SEPARATE PRESENTATION, BUT HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I JUST CAME TO THE MEETING JUST TO HEAR LUKE SPEAK, SO THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH, MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK THIS IS, UM, THE FASTEST WE GOT THROUGH P AND Z.

I LIKE IT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS GIVING COMMENTS.

THAT'S PLEASANT CHANGE.

UM, THE ONLY REAL ISSUE IS WHAT TO NAME THE MOUNTAIN OF DIRT THAT'S THERE NOW.

SO WE'LL COME UP WITH THE NAME FOR THAT.

BUT WE'RE HERE.

THE BAUER FAMILY'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

MAYOR.

HOW WAS THIS PARCEL ACCESSED PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FOREST ROAD EXTENSION? WAS IT ACCESSIBLE? YES, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT THAT CAME DOWN.

THERE WAS A COUPLE, OR YOU CAN SEE IT ACTUALLY.

YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN EASEMENT ALONG HERE, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN THEY ACCESSED IT THROUGH THE OLD ROAD TOO.

AND IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, HOW BUILDABLE ARE THOSE LOTS? LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE NOT BEEN OUT THERE TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF SLOPE.

LIKE ARE THOSE GONNA BE TOUGH? LOTS TO BUILD ON? LOTS.

ONE AND TWO ARE REMAINING NATURAL AND THEY'RE NOT BAD TO BUILD ON, UH, THREE AND FOUR RIGHT NOW.

IT HAS THAT PILE OF DIRT AND THEY'RE BUILDING A WALL AROUND THERE SO THEY CAN GET THE BUILDING.

AND WHEN WE GET DONE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AT LIKE A 3% SLOPE FOR MOST OF THE LOT THERE.

SO, WE'LL, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT BETTER OFF WHEN WE GET DONE.

WAS THERE EVER ANY INTEREST IN SEEKING A ZONE CHANGE TO PUT MORE DENSITY IN THERE GIVEN ITS IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO OPINION POINT? AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S DENSITY, MASSING, ET CETERA, ON THAT PARCEL? YEAH, NO, IN THE FUTURE, I MEAN, IT'S IDEAL THERE.

IT'S IN UPTOWN, IT'S IN A AWKWARD AREA.

UM, SO, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING A ZONE CHANGE NOW.

UM, WE'RE GONNA GET IT FOOT, WE NEED TO GET TO FOUR LOTS IN THERE AND THEN SEE WHAT THE MARKET DOES.

UM, BUT IDEALLY IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME WITH OPINION POINT THERE AND ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE GOING THROUGH THERE, WE MIGHT LOOK AT SOME OTHER IDEAS.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AS YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FOREST ROAD PROJECTS, AND THIS IS THE DIRECTION THEY CHOSE TO GO AT THIS TIME.

SO IT'S THE APPLICATION WE REVIEWED, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU BOTH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY, VICE MAYOR KATHY, MAKE SURE I DON'T FORGET.

SO RIGHT NOW IS THE ATTENTION TO BUILD FOUR HOUSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.

THERE'RE GONNA BE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING, THE APPLICANT'S NOT PLANNING TO BUILD ON IT RIGHT NOW, NOT PLANNING TO BUILD, THEY'RE NOT BUILDERS.

SO, AND THAT COULD BE SPEC.

I, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO, BECAUSE I MEAN THE BOWERS ARE DOING THIS AND I KNOW 'EM, I, THEY'RE NOT REALLY BUILDERS THAT GO OUT TO DO THAT, SO, BUT IT, IT'S ALL UP IN THE AIR THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES.

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FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THEY COULD GO BUILD THAT, OR THEY COULD HIRE A CONTRACTOR AND BUILD IT AND THEN PUT IN SPEC HOMES OR, YOU KNOW, UM, WORK WITH THE CITY ON MAYBE WHAT'S A BETTER USE IN THERE THAN RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE LIKE LOTS THREE AND FOUR ARE JUST BASICALLY GONNA HAVE A ROAD AROUND THEM, A BUSY ROAD.

SO WHICH HAS THREE AND FOUR, BUT, UH, LOTS.

THREE AND FOUR ARE THE LOWER LOTS, BUT, AND SO THE THOUGHT IN THE FUTURE FOR POTENTIAL REZONING WOULD BE TO PUT ZONE AT THE COMMERCIAL THAT, OR MULTIFAMILY.

MULTIFAMILY.

OKAY.

WHICH IS COMMERCIAL.

SO YEAH, .

SO YES, COMMERCIAL.

THANK YOU.

CASTA, KINSELLA, THE SHARED DRIVEWAY WILL BE A PRIVATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO, THE LOT OWNERS.

YEAH, SO IT'S, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO, SO THAT WOULD'VE PRIVATE ENFORCEMENT, IF THERE WAS A DISPUTE THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A COURT, THERE WOULD BE NO CITY INVOLVEMENT IN ENFORCEMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S ON THE PLAT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE, AND THERE'S NON VEHICULAR ACCESS EASEMENTS ON THE REST OF THE ROAD.

AND SO AS WE REVIEW, THEY HAVE TO ACCESS AT THAT POINT, IF THERE WAS A DISPUTE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THEM, THE CITY WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED.

BUT AS WE REVIEW PLANS FOR CONSTRUCTION ON THESE LOTS, WE WOULD, BASED ON THE PLAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACCESS AT THOSE POINTS.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD REVIEW FOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND SINCE IT'S FOR SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, THERE'S AN HOA, THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, NO, THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE AN HOA OVER THREE UNITS OR SOMETHING.

IT REQUIRES THIS PROCESS FOR OVER THREE UNITS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S NO O LIKE NO COMMON OPEN SPACE.

THERE'S NO PRIVATE ROADS.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT AN HOA WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN IN THE SUBDIVISION.

RIGHT.

SO THERE'S JUST NO EVEN HOA NAME LIKE FOR DOLLAR A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST, I THOUGHT THAT HAD TO BE A PART OF IT, BUT I GUESS I'M WRONG.

KURT IS SHAKING HIS HEAD.

OKAY.

NO.

OKAY.

SIMPLE.

THAT'S A SIMPLE ANSWER.

NO .

OKAY.

UM, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POTENTIALLY LIMITING PUTTING A DEED RESTRICTION IN FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL BAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE DEVELOPING UNDER THEIR CURRENT ZONING AND AREN'T ASKING FOR A CHANGE? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ASK FOR.

OKAY.

BUT WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF IT BEING OFFERED OR WAS THERE ANY, WAS IT ON THE TABLE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM FROM THE APPLICANT'S THEY DID NOT OFFER IT.

AND BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE UNDER THEIR CURRENT ZONING, WE CAN'T ASK FOR IT.

THANK YOU, PETE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, UH, LIKE I HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND I, IF I HEAR CORRECTLY, I SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPERS HAVE, THE OWNERS HAVE SOME RIGHTS AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT THOSE GOING FORWARD.

SO MY QUESTION, I JUST WANNA OFFER WHETHER THE BOWERS WANT TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS OR USE, UH, MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE ANY INTENTION, JUST OFFER YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO MAKE THE ONLY COMMENT, YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

NO, I JUST START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.

UH, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS DAVID BOWERS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF S STONE.

UH, I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR SOME 27 YEARS.

UH, I'VE BEEN HOLDING IT, UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN IT WAS THE PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED, IT WAS ACQUIRED FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAYBE CONSIDERING A FAMILY COMPOUND THERE SO THAT WE COULD BUILD SEVERAL UNITS.

UM, AND, UH, AT SHORTLY AFTER I BOUGHT THE, UH, PROPERTY, I HAD A UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE I HAD OPEN HEART SURGERY AND I KINDA LOST EVIDENCE OR INTEREST, I SHOULD SAY, IN DEVELOPING.

SO I JUST SAT ON THE PROPERTY AFTER THAT.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS INTENDED TO BE, UH, UH, TO GO TO OUR KIDS.

UH, AND I HAVE TWO OF MY SONS HERE.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, FOUR, UH, REMAINING SONS.

ONE OF OUR SONS PASSED AWAY.

SO IT'S REALLY A, AN INHERITANCE.

UH, I BOUGHT IT BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.

AND THE REASON WE'RE REALLY HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE THE ROAD, UH, CREATES A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH AT THIS TIME.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE AND THE THING THAT WAS THE DRIVING FORCE ON THE LOT SPLIT

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SO THAT WAS THE MOTIVATING REASON AT THIS TIME, WE'RE CONSIDERING ALL POSSIBLE USES FOR THE PROPERTY, AND I THINK THAT AT A, AT A LATER TIME, WE, WE WILL PROBABLY DISCUSS THAT WITH MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND DECIDE ON A COURSE OF ACTION AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.

SO, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

SO CAN I JUST, YES, PLEASE.

UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS OUTSIDE WHEN WE HAD STARTED THE UPTOWN CFA PLANNING PROCESS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THAT NEVER GOT COMPLETED.

UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT BECAUSE THE FOREST ROAD EXTENSION WAS NOT THERE.

UM, THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE NEW COMMUNITY PLAN AS A, UH, AS A CFA THAT WE WILL BE PURSUING AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD REEVALUATE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE ROAD EXTENSION.

AND SO AT THAT TIME AS WE START THAT UP, WE WOULD LIKELY BE REACHING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS AREA TO SEE IF THEY HAVE INTEREST IN BEING PART OF THE CFA, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE PART OF THE LARGER PLANNING PROCESS AND POTENTIALLY RECOMMEND DIFFERENT USES.

GREAT.

I, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT.

MR. BAUERS.

I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT TO GET THROUGH A PROCESS, IT WAS GONNA TAKE TIME AND YOU NEEDED TO THINK ABOUT UTILITIES NOW AND IT WAS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

SO I GET THAT AND I, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE MOVED.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AND I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO A QUESTION TO YOU IS, SINCE YOU NEED TO RUN THOSE UTILITIES, ARE YOU GONNA RUN ONLY UTILITIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? LUKE IS, IF YOU ARE RUNNING UTILITIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME VERSUS MULTIFAMILY, WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT? YES.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING A COUPLE DIFFERENT LINES IN THERE, A SIX INCH SEWER LINE CONNECTION, AND THEN I HAVE A TWO INCH LINE COMING IN TO EACH AND THAT WOULD, UH, RESIDENTIAL COULD USE THAT TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SPRING COURTS NO MATTER WHAT.

SO, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S ADDITIONAL CONDUIT BEING PLACED AS WELL THAT'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CAPACITY FOR GAS? FOR GAS, YEAH.

I, I'M SORRY, LUKE, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? WELL, UM, IF, IF UNISOURCE EVER COMES DOWN THAT WAY AND GETS CLOSE TO WHERE IT'S FINANCIALLY AVAILABLE, WE'RE JUST PUTTING SOME CONDUIT IN, UM, ALSO FOR OTHER COMMUNICATION LINES NOW.

SO WITH THE WATER AND SEWER PLANS CURRENTLY, IS IT ONLY SUPPORTIVE OF FOR MULTI-FAMILY, MORE FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS OR COULD IT ALS WHAT YOU'RE RUNNING THE PLAN SUPPORT MULTIFAMILY HERE? IF SOMEONE WOULD WANNA RUN A REZONE PROCESS, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD SUPPORT A MULTIFAMILY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU'VE ASKED THAT ALL THE UTILITIES BE UPSIZED SO THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE A GREATER USE.

I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT THOUGHT.

MR. BOWERS? THANK YOU.

HOLD FOR ONE SECOND, MR. BOWER.

JESSICA, DID YOU WANNA ASK MR. BAUER A QUESTION? NO.

, DO YOU MIND IF I GO, I HAVE A JUST QUICK QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO RUN THESE UTILITIES BEFORE THE BLACKTOP GOES DOWN, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT, THAT'S BY CITY POLICY AS FAR AS CUT RESTRICTIONS ON NEWLY PAVED STREETS.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, WILL THERE BE ANY RESTRICTION IN TIME OR THE OF THE PROJECT FOR OUR GETTING THAT ROAD DONE ON TIME? IF THE BOWERS HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING THEIR UTILITIES DOWN, IF THEY CAN'T MEET THAT DEADLINE, ARE THEY GONNA HOLD US UP AT ALL? I DON'T THINK SO.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING.

UM, YOU CAN ALWAYS BORE UNDER THE ROAD AS WELL IF YOU, IF YOU ABSOLUTELY HAD TO.

THERE ARE OF COURSE MORE MONEY.

THERE ARE OPTIONS AND REALLY THE RESTRICTIONS ARE THAT YOU, YOU GOTTA LIMIT HOW MUCH CUT YOU CAN MAKE.

IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NO CUT ALLOWED AT ALL, ALL IT JUST CONFINES IT TO NOT HAVING, LIKE, YOUR TYPICAL UTILITY TRENCH IS LIKE FOUR FEET WIDE.

SO WE TRY TO AVOID WITH THE NEW STREET HAVING A BUNCH OF LITTLE CUTS LIKE THAT.

OF COURSE.

I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST, I'M A LITTLE LEERY ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO DELAY THE PROJECT.

YEAH.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL, IT WON'T DELAY THE PROJECT.

WE'VE ALREADY LET THEM KNOW THAT, UM, THE UTILITIES ARE PRIMARILY WORKED OUT.

THERE'S A FEW UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, BUT THEY KNOW THAT THE PLANS HAVE TO BE IN AND APPROVED BY THE CITY BY JUNE 30TH IN ORDER NOT TO DELAY THE PROJECT.

PERFECT.

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COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON, YOU WANT TO PROCEED? I ASK MR. HOLD ON.

VICE MAYOR WANTS TO ASK MR. BOWER AND MR. BOWERS, DO YOU LIVE ON THAT PROPERTY YOURSELF? NO.

DOES ANY MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY LIVE THERE RIGHT NOW? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A SEAT, MR. BOWER.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION.

UH, COUNSELOR WILLIAMSON, I JUST WANNA MAKE A PLEA TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVELOPING PROPERTY IN SEDONA THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE A REAL PROBLEM FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT I WOULD REALLY URGE.

OKAY.

UH, DEVELOPERS AND LUKE, WHO WORKS WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS TO, TO CONSIDER DEED RESTRICTING THE PROPERTY TO PREVENT THE PROLIFERATE, THE FURTHER PROLIFERATION OF THE DESTRUCTIVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE TAKING OVER HAVE TAKEN OVER OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED RESIDENTS, WE NEED PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

WE, WE DON'T NEED, IT'S REALLY NOT GOOD TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE HERE.

IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU LIVE IN SEDONA AND YOU CARE ABOUT SEDONA, JUST GIVE IT A THOUGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

A ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, READY FOR A MOTION? NO COMMENTS.

OH, SORRY.

OH YES.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

UH, ARE THERE ANY CARDS? UH, ITEM CLARK? NO.

WELL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THAT CASE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED? UH, COUNCILOR FURMAN? YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO JOIN COUNCILOR WILLIAMS IN, UH, PLEADING TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AT LARGE OUT THERE IN VIEWER LAND TO TALK TO THE BOWERS.

THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY PLUMB OPPORTUNITY FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I WORK WITH TRYING TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRYING TO SUPPORT IT AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THAT SILVER BULLET THAT FIXES THAT.

BUT WE DO TRY TO ENCOURAGE, UM, DEVELOPERS WITH ESPECIALLY MULTI-FAMILY THAT YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GO THAT ENHANCES OUR COMMUNITY.

SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

BEAT.

YOU'RE DONE.

DONE.

OKAY THEN.

A MOTION.

A MOTION.

CATHOLIC ELA.

SO I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT AS SET FORTH IN CASE NUMBER PZ 21 DASH 0 0 0 2 0 SUBDIVISION BAUER SUBDIVISION BASED ON, BASED ON COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS OF LDC SECTIONS 8.3 AND 8.5, AND SATISFACTION OF THE SUBDIVISION FINDINGS AND APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.

WHICH STAFF REPORT IS HEREBY ADOPTED AS THE FINDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

ANDY, I DID NOTICE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT FOREST ROAD.

FOREST ROAD.

I KNOW THAT THE EXTENSION IS CALLED FOREST ROAD.

IT'S CONFUSING.

IS THERE THINKING ABOUT RENAMING IT OSBORNE WAY? NO.

THERE, THERE WAS THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE CITY AGREED WITH IT.

.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T PUT A WHOLE LOT OF EFFORT INTO MAKING A NAME CHANGE ON THAT.

UM, I THINK A MINOR CHANGE MIGHT BE LIKE A NORTH FOREST VERSUS A SOUTH FOREST.

MM-HMM.

KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MINOR CHANGE.

UM, EVENTUALLY THE REALITY IS WE WILL HAVE A SIGNALED INTERSECTION ON ONE END AND EVENTUALLY WHAT OUR ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS SHOWED WAS AROUND ABOUT ON THE OTHER END.

SO WE WOULDN'T, TECHNICALLY THAT WAS THE INSINUATION, IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TWO CONFUSING 89 A FOREST ROAD INTERSECTIONS.

BUT I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO.

WOULD MAKE IT PRETTY CLEAR.

SO OTHER, OTHER THAN THAT, WE WOULD JUST HAVE A NUMBERING SYSTEM THAT RUNS FROM THE NORTH END TO THE SOUTH AFTER THINKING THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

I'M NOT SURE THAT EVEN A NORTH AND SOUTH DESIGNATION IS REALLY NECESSARY.

I, I THINK THE BIG, THE BIG CON, UH, CONFUSION WAS THE INTERSECTIONS.

AND I THINK WITH WHAT OUR PLANS ARE, IT'LL, IT'LL CLARIFY THAT.

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SURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ITEM

[8.c. AB 3052 Discussion/possible action regarding ideas for possible resolutions for consideration by League of Arizona Cities and Towns’ Policy Committees as part of the League's legislative agenda for 2025.]

DISCUSSION.

POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING IDEAS FOR POSSIBLE RESOLUTION FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE LEAGUE OF ARIZONA CS AND TOWNS POLICY COMMITTEE AS PART OF THE LEAGUE'S LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR 2025.

UM, KURT, YOU WANNA START OFF? SURE.

SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE, UH, FIRST DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS ITEM, BUT WE LEFT IT IN THE AGENDA AND A GOOD THING 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LATE MINUTE, UH, ADDITION AT THE SUGGESTION OF VICE MAYOR.

UH, AND THEN THERE WAS A AGREEMENT BY COUNCILOR FURMAN, UH, TO PRESENT THE IDEA TO, TO THE, UH, THE LEAGUE.

UH, AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH, UH, TCAS OR CSOS OR ANY OF OUR DESIGNATED, UM, UH, ASSISTANCE TO THE POLICE OFFICERS, POLICE AIDS, EVEN, UH, BEING ABLE TO DIRECT TRAFFIC, UH, MOVING TRAFFIC AS OPPOSED TO, UH, SLOWLY PARKING VIOLATIONS OR AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE TCAS CURRENTLY DO, WHICH IS THEY DIRECT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT CROSSWALKS.

UH, AND SO THERE IS A STATE LAW PROHIBITION ON THAT, THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE BUDGET MEETINGS.

UM, AND SO THIS WOULD BE A RESOLUTION TO SEE IF THERE'S SUPPORT FROM THE OTHER CITIES, UH, TO, TO CHANGE THAT, THE EXACT LANGUAGE, UH, WHAT MIGHT WORK OUT BEST.

UH, COULD BE WORKED OUT WITH THE, THE LEAGUE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE MEETING, UH, AND THEN PRESENT IT AND THEN FURTHER WORKED OUT IF IT WAS, UM, SUPPORTED BY THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UH, AT THE LEAGUE.

SO THAT'S THE INTRODUCTION.

UH, IT'S HERE FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO, UH, ALLOW COUNCILOR FURMAN TO CONTINUE WITH THAT OR NOT.

COUNCIL FURMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, UH, KURT, ANY OPPORTUNITY? DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO LEAGUE STAFF AT ALL TO FLOAT THE IDEA? NO, NOT PRIOR.

NOT FROM WHENEVER WE DISCUSSED THURSDAY TO NOW, BUT, UH, I DON'T FORESEE THAT LEAGUE STAFF WOULD HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.

I THINK IDEALLY IF WE COULD FIND, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WORKING IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION, ANOTHER STATE, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP US ALONG.

UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED BY, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF, UM, AND I THINK EVEN PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT THE, UH, UM, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF USING NON-SWORN OFFICERS TO DIRECT TRAFFIC AND WHETHER PEOPLE MIGHT IGNORE THEM OR NOT.

UH, AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO IF THEY DO SO? AND SO SOME SAFETY CONCERNS THERE.