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DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE ONE WITH THE[Historic Preservation Commission on May 13, 2024.]
NEXT TO YOU WITH THE BIG WHITE TOWER, THE STAIRCASE.UM, DIDN'T SAY THANKS DOWN BELOW IF YOU, IT'S A LITTLE WALK, BUT IF YOU CAN SEE BACK, ACTUALLY THE SPRING'S ALL DOWN THERE.
THAT'S WHEN THEY GOT OTHER WATER.
WELL, ANDREA CAME, UM, ON, ON FRIDAY WHEN WE SAW YOU.
AND, UM, AND SHE STOOD ON THE EDGE AND LOOKED OVER AND SHE'S LIKE, THERE'S A BENCH DOWN THERE.
SAID YEAH, YOU CAN, PEOPLE, YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE.
I HAVE A WHOLE PARK BUILT DOWN THERE.
DO YOU? THEY SAID FOREST SERVICE DIDN'T LIKE IT.
DONNA, WE ARE AWAITING, UH, COMMISSIONER A FEENEY, OR WE START AT FOUR AND THEN IF HE SHOWS UP, WE KNOW THE TIME HE ARRIVES.
BUT DO WE, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO START THE MEETING AND YES.
HOW ARE YOU? FOR A SEAT? FIGHT FOR A SEAT.
AND WITH THAT, IT'S FOUR O'CLOCK RIGHT ON TIME.
SO I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE, UH, CITY SEDONA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO ORDER.
UM, I GUESS WE'LL START, IF YOU'LL ALL STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE, UH, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
UH, CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL? VICE CHAIR MYERS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER EGNER HERE AND COMMISSIONER FEENEY.
PRESENT CHAIR UNGER IS EXCUSED TODAY.
UH, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY, UH, COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF APRIL 8TH, 2024.
UH, HAVE WE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK THOSE OUT? ANY COMMENTS? DO WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? OKAY.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, THEY'RE APPROVED.
MOVING ON TO THE PUBLIC FORUM, THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 31 0.01 H, ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE.
MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR BUSINESS UPDATE ON THE RANGER STATION PARK.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I BROUGHT SOME PICTURES HERE.
UH, WE HAVE MOST RECENTLY WRAPPED UP THE, UM, SHARED USE PATH IN PLAZA AREA ALONG WITH THE PARKING LOT.
UH, LETTER OF FINAL COMPLETION WAS SENT TO SUMMIT CONSTRUCTION TODAY.
UM, PARKING LOTS HAVE BEEN STRIPED FOR ALL A DA COMPLIANCE.
HAS ANYBODY BEEN OUT THERE? MM-HMM.
SO, UM, WE'LL BE DOING SOFT OPENING ON THE PARK SOMETIME IN JUNE.
UM, WE DO NOT HAVE THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS READY YET, SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN, UH, PORTA POTTIES TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE HAD SOME DELAYS WITH THE PLAYGROUND.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE EQUIPMENT IN THE FALL, UH, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TIME OF APPROXIMATELY SIX WEEKS.
IN THE MEANTIME, UH, THE NEXT STEP WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING THE PICNIC TABLES, THE PARK BENCHES, I BELIEVE, SOME OF THE ACTIVITY AREAS.
UM, AND SPEAKING WITH JOSH BRUIN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, CORN HOLE, THE ADULT EXERCISE AREA AND THE SLIDES THAT WILL BE IN THE BASINS, UM, AVAILABLE MAYBE NOT UNTIL THE END OF JUNE, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL.
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SO, UM, THE DESIGN FOR THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE AND BARN AS WELL UNDERWAY.UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING, UH, WITH STAFF, UH, THE LAYOUT OF THE BARN, UM, AND THE HOUSE.
UM, WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER, UM, VESTED STAFF MEMBERS.
SO, UM, IT'S, WE, IT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.
EVEN DURING CONSTRUCTION, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN AND SPEAKING AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
UH, STORMY BAY HAS BECOME A VERY BIG, UH, PICTURE STATION I'LL CALL IT.
SO I DO HAVE A DRONE FLIGHT HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE FLYING NORTH TO SOUTH OVER THE TOP OF THE BARN.
UM, THE LAWN LOOKS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.
UM, AND WE ARE GETTING QUITE A FEW GUESTS FROM LOS ABOGADOS WALKING IN THROUGH THE GATE.
THEY HAVE INSTALLED A PEDESTRIAN BUTTON SO THEY CAN COME THROUGH THE GATE.
UM, SO I ANTICIPATE THIS BEING A HIGHLY USED, UH, PARK AND THE RESIDENTS LOCALLY ARE ABSOLUTELY LOVING IT.
SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES, SIR.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PARK, THE HISTORY OF THE AREA? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD BE IN LOGICAL PHASE TWO TO DO THE INTERACTIVE SIGNAGE THAT WELL, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED HERE, IF I WAS TO WALK ON THAT PARK, I'D SAY, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? WHY IS THIS? WHAT'S THAT BUILDING? WHAT'S THAT BUILDING? SO WAYFIND AND HISTORY PLAQUE SEEMS TO ME TO BE THE NEXT PROJECT THAT SHOULD BE WORKED ON.
AND WHO'S GONNA DO THAT? AND WHO'S, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PROJECT? AND WALK IT THROUGH.
COMMISSIONER SE, THAT WAS A PART OF OUR WORK GROUP, UM, WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE INTERACTIVE SIGNAGE, UM, WHICH, UH, UH, ACTING CHAIR, UH, MEYERS WAS, UH, A PART OF THAT WORK GROUP.
SO YES, THAT IS GOING TO BE PHASE TWO.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA COORDINATE THE LOOK OF THOSE SIGNS WITH THE LOOK OF THE HISTORY, WALK ALONG 89 A, UM, ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, MEANS OF OBTAINING MORE PIECES OF ART FOR THE PARK, UH, AND POSSIBLY ART THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THOSE GOOD, UH, INTERPRETIVE PANELS.
SO, UM, YES, THAT WILL BE, UH, PART OF THE PHASE TWO PROJECT.
IS, IS THERE A SCHEDULE FOR PHASE TWO, OR IS THAT THERE'S DOWN THE ROAD STILL, THAT'S STILL DOWN THE ROAD AT THIS POINT.
IT'LL DEFINITELY BE IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE LANDMARKING OF THE PROPERTY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE TILLOCK CHAPEL PERMIT, HPC DASH 0 0 0 0 1, LOCATED AT 3 36.
UM, SO THIS IS AN EXCITING DAY, UH, FOR US.
WE HAVE, UH, TWO APPLICATIONS FOR LANDMARKING.
AND, UM, THE FIRST, AS YOU NOTED, UH, VICE CHAIR, ACTING CHAIR, UM, IS THE CHAPEL AT TILAK.
UH, THE CHAPEL AT TILAK, UH, IS, UH, ABOUT 800 SQUARE FEET OF THE TILLOCK SHOPPING CENTER.
AND AS YOU COULD SEE FROM YOUR, UH, YOUR PACKET THERE, UM, THE, UH, SORRY.
THE, UH, THE DE TILLOCK CHAPEL, UH, FULL BACKGROUND IS IN YOUR HISTORICAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION APPLICATION, UH, AS TOLD IN THE STORY OF, UH, CHAPEL OF TILLOCK AND OASIS OF HISTORY AND SERENITY.
UM, THE CHAPEL PORTION OF TILLOCK ARTS AND SHOPPING VILLAGE WAS CREATED BY ABE MILLER.
UH, HE WAS A TRAVELER THAT LOVED TO OBSERVE ARTISANS AT WORK IN THE SMALL VILLAGES THAT HE VISITED.
UM, MR. MILLER HIRED WORKERS THAT HE FELT DISPLAYED HEART AND ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT AND WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED IN DESIGN, AESTHETICS, SYMBOLISM, UH, AND A REFLECTION OF THE MEXICAN CULTURE IS VISIBLE IN EVERY DETAIL OF THE CHAPEL OF TILAK.
MUCH OF THE ARTISTIC RENDERINGS CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO
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THE ARTISAN.EILEEN KAHN, WHO CARVED BIRDS OUT OF BASSWOOD, MADE CANVAS DRAWINGS OF NAVAJO RUGS AND RELIEF CARVINGS.
BUT PERHAPS THE MOST PROMINENT CON CONTRIBUTION WAS THE PAINTING OF THE LARGE INTERIOR MURAL THAT IS THE FOCUS POINT OF THE ALTAR AREA.
THE CHAPEL IS APPROXIMATELY, AS I SAID, 800 SQUARE FEET, UH, WITH NINE LEATHER PEWS THAT SEAT ABOUT 36 PEOPLE.
THE FLOOR OF THE CHAPEL CONSISTS OF HANDHELD, OH, I'M SORRY, I'M, EXCUSE ME, HAND-LAID GOLD BRONZE TILE, WHICH LEADS YOUR EYE TO THE ORNATE BACK WALL THAT IS DOMINATED BY CON'S, 11 BY 12 FOOT PAINTED MURAL, WHICH CONTAINS A PORTRAIT OF ST.
AUGUSTINE, POPE PIUS 10, UH, BONAVENTURE, SAMUEL PETER AND JOHN THE BAPTIST, WITH JESUS CHRIST FLOATING ABOVE THEM.
THE CHAPEL IS FURTHER ADORNED WITH CUSTOM STAINED GLASS WINDOWS CREATED BY DEAN SEBECK, WHO FIRST RE RESEARCHED THE STAINED GLASS AND SPANISH ARCHITECTURE.
IT IS SAID THAT SHE WANTED, AND I'M SORRY, THAT WAS DEANNA.
UH, IT SAID THAT SHE WANTED TO BRING THIS SPIRITUAL FEELING OF BEING OUTSIDE INTO THE CHAPEL AND CHOSE A COLOR PALETTE INSPIRED BY THE NATURAL SURROUNDINGS OF SEDONA.
THE GLASS ITSELF IS HAND-BLOWN FROM GERMANY.
AND ON THE OUTSIDE, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, YOU'VE SEEN THOSE BEAUTIFUL HAND CARBS, SPANISH DOORS, THE ELABORATE WROUGHT IRON GATES, AND THE CROSS TOPPED BELL TOWER.
UM, THE CONDITION OF THE CHAPEL IS SAID TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION, BOTH INSIDE AND OUT.
UM, AND THE FULL EVALUATION OF THE BUILDING FOR HISTORIC INTEGRITY AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE LANDMARK CRITERIA, UH, IS PART OF THE ATTACHED LETTER FROM NANCY BURGESS.
PRES PRESERVATION CONSULTANT, CONSULTANT, UH, AND DATED 12 28 23 STAFF IS SUPPORTED OF THE DESIGNATING OF DESIGNATING CHAPEL AT TILLOCK AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.
ACCORDINGLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE NUMBER HPC DASH 0 0 0 0 1, BASED UPON THE CONSISTENCY WITH HISTORIC LANDMARK EVALUATION CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE SEDONA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
UH, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION? UH, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT, NO.
UM, EVEN THOUGH SHE DOES NOT HAVE AN
UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS, UH, IS OPEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? NOBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS.
THIS, THIS IS MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN.
UH, AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR, UH, DELIBERATION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UM, THEY WANNA MAKE ABOUT THIS? ANY DISCUSSION YOU FEEL WE NEED TO HAVE? UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION, I GUESS FOR STAFF, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A PRACTICALITY.
UM, IT'S KIND OF ALONG THE EDGE OF THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT AT AKA P**I RIGHT.
ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
UM, IS IT, DOES THE EXTERIOR WALL OF THE CHAPEL, IS THAT, UM, IS THERE A WALL BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC FROM THAT? OR IS THE EXTERIOR WALL ON THE, ON THAT KIND OF DRIVEWAY THERE? UH, AND DOES THAT, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS, IN THE FUTURE, IF LIKE THAT WALL NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED OR, OR, UM, OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT CAUSE ANY ISSUES FOR THE LANDMARKING? DOES THAT CAUSE ANY ISSUES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER? UM, IF THEY NEED TO REPAIR, LIKE THE, THE ACTUAL WALL, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT QUESTION ACTUALLY WOULD BE ANSWERED, UM, BY THE COMMISSION, UH, AS EITHER A CERTIFICATE OF NO EFFECT OR, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF ANY MAINTENANCE WORK WERE TO BE PROPOSED, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD COME FORTH WITH THE, THE PLANS ON THAT PROPOSED WORK, AND THEN THE COMMISSION WOULD MAKE A, A DECISION.
AS I RECALL, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROBABLY FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY THAT, THAT NATE JUST BROUGHT UP IS THAT THE, UM, THE HVAC SYSTEM ACTUALLY IS PERCHED ON THE SIDE OF THAT WALL.
THAT, UH, ON THAT, WELL, IT'S CLOSE TO THE, TO THE PARKING LOT.
UM, THAT'S THE ONLY INSTANCE THAT I CAN THINK OF.
WENDY, CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT WAS ALL WE DISCUSSED.
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IT JUST TO, IF I CAN ANSWER JUST THE CHAPEL IS BASICALLY ITS OWN FOUR WALLS.EXCEPT FOR, AS HE MENTIONED, UM, AS, AS MR. MENTIONED THAT THE HVAC IS THERE.
SO IT IS COMPLETELY UNTO ITSELF.
UM, I, I PERSONALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, IF I CAN, CAN COMMENT ON THIS, I THINK THAT, UM, TILLOCK IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, I THINK I, I UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY, UH, THE OWNER WOULDN'T WANNA LANDMARK THE WHOLE THING AND, AND, UH, RUN INTO SOME ISSUES, UH, POTENTIALLY DOWN THE ROAD WITH, WITH BEING ABLE TO RENOVATE OR CHANGE OR, OR ANYTHING.
UM, SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO, TO LANDMARK THE CHAPEL, I THINK THAT'S A, A REALLY NICE, UH, PIECE OF HISTORY TO BE ABLE TO, TO POINT TO AND SAY, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY HERE AND, AND, UM, TO BE ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, IS DO WE STILL HAVE A PROGRAM FOR HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
UM, OTHER WORDS, WE WOULDN'T BE LANDMARKING, BUT WE COULD DESIGNATE BUILDINGS THERE THAT HAVE SOME HISTORIC VALUE.
AND THIS, TO ME, LOCKBA WOULD BE PERFECT.
THE PROGRAM FOR HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO THE, WHEN WE DO OUR WHOLESALE UPGRADES TO THE LDC, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PROPOSED TO BE PLACED BACK IN IF, IF YOU CHOOSE AT THAT TIME.
UM, WELL, WE,
ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT AND LANDMARKING THE CHAPEL
UH, I GUESS IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, UM, I WOULD TAKE A, UH, A, UH, MOTION TO, TO APPROVE OR DISPROVE.
BUT, UH,
THAT, UM, THAT THE HPC, UH, APPROVE THE LANDMARKING.
DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION? OH, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION.
IT'S, UH, IT'S WITHIN THE PACKET.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR CASE NUMBER HPC 0 0 0 0 1 TO DESIGNATE CHAPEL AT TILLOCK, LOCATED AT 3 36 STATE ROUTE 1 79 AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED UPON THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK EVALUATION CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE SEDONA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
NOW GO BACK TO MY AGENDA HERE.
AND I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, STAFF FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH COMMENTS OVER THE WEEKEND.
UM, SO 56 LINKS DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE KIVA HOUSE.
UM, THE FULL BACKGROUND, AGAIN, IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I'LL READ OFF SOME OF THE, THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE.
UH, THIS 2092 SQUARE FOOT HOME WAS COMMISSIONED BY DR.
VICTOR MUELLER AND CONSTRUCTED BY ARCHITECT BUILDER LYNN DAVID GROOMS CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED IN 1978 AND BECAME KNOWN IN THE COMMUNITY AS THE KIVA HOUSE DUE TO THE ROUND TOWER LIKE STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT PORTION OF THE HOME.
THE KIVA HOUSE IS A FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT INSPIRED PUEBLO STYLE HOME, AND IS THOUGHT TO BE THE FIRST OF ITS KIND BUILT IN SEDONA.
AS SUCH, IT HAS MULTI-TIERED FLAT ROOF EXTERIOR WITH AN ATTACHED CARPORT.
THE HOME'S UNIQUE DESIGN WAS RECOGNIZED IN THE MAY, 1985 EDITION OF ARIZONA HIGHWAYS MAGAZINE, TITLED 2000 YEARS OF ARIZONA ARCHITECTURE, AND WAS FEATURED ON THE BACK COVER OF SEDONA LIFE MAGAZINE.
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DR.MUELLER'S WIFE REPORTED THAT THE WINDOWS OF THE HOME WERE THE PRIMARY FEATURES UPON WHICH THE HOME WAS BUILT.
THE MAIN LIVING SPACES FACED EAST FACE EAST AND THE WINDOW REPLACEMENTS DRAW THE EYE UP TO THE CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS AT THE BASE OF THE TWIN BUTTES, AND OUT TO THE SURROUNDING CHAPEL VISTAS.
ONE WINDOW IN THE MASTER BEDROOM SUITE FACES CATHEDRAL ROCK, AND THERE IS A SMALL WALLED PATIO THAT PROVIDES A VIEW OF BELL ROCK AND LEE MOUNTAIN.
INSPIRED FEATURES ARE EVIDENT THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.
THE CUSTOM MADE FRONT DOORS SURROUND WELCOMES VISITORS IN A LONG INTO A LONG, NARROW CURVED HALLWAY OPENING INTO A STEP DOWN GREAT ROOM.
THE CORE OF THE HOUSE IS A SEMI-CIRCULAR REDWOOD WALL WITH BEAMS RADIATING OUT ACROSS THE CEILING OF THE GREAT ROOM AND FRONT HALLWAY.
IN THE SUNLIGHT PATTERN, THE CORE SUPPORTS AN UPSTAIRS GUEST SUITE WITH CLEAR STORY.
THE GREAT ROOM HAS A LARGE WOOD STOVE MOUNTED ON THE ROCK, RED ROCK FOUNDATION, AND WALL SURROUNDING THAT SIMULATES THE SURROUNDING TWIN BUTTES.
THE KITCHEN CONNECTS TO THE GREAT ROOM AND CONTAINS A CUSTOM DESIGNED WOOD ISLAND TO MATCH THE WALLS OF THE HALLWAY, HALLWAY, AND GREAT ROOM CURVATURE.
THE FLOORS IN MOST AIR ROOMS ARE SLATED CONSISTENT WITH OTHER ORGANIC MATERIALS THAT MAKE UP THE INTERIOR STAINED GLASS WINDOWS ACCENTUATE THE KIVA ROOM AND THE STAIRCASE LEADING TO THE GUEST SUITE.
LASTLY, IT IS SAID THAT THE SPIRITUAL CULTURE OF SEDONA IDENTIFIES THE HOME AS TRIANGULATED BY THREE GEOLOGICAL ICONS, TWO OF WHICH ARE CONSIDERED ENERGY VORTEXES.
THE KIVA HOUSE APPEARS TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION, BOTH INSIDE AND OUT, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE AGAIN, OF DESIGNATED THE KIVA HOUSE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.
ACCORDINGLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE NUMBER HPC DASH 0 0 0 2 BASED UPON THE CONSISTENCY WITH HISTORIC LANDMARK EVALUATION CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE SEDONA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE FOR STAFF UP HERE? I HAVE ONE, UM, IN THE PACKET, NANCY BURGESS, UH, WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT, AND, UH, AND ASSESSED THE, THE BUILDING IN IT.
SHE WROTE THAT THE CITY OF SEDONA DOES NOT HAVE AN AGE RESTRICTION FOR SOMETHING BEING LANDMARKED.
I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.
WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE IS A, IT STARTS OFF WITH A 50 YEAR, UH, REQUIREMENT, BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE OF THE COMMISSION TO WAIVE THAT BASED UPON HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS NOT 50 YEARS OLD.
UM, SO IT, IT WOULD NEED TO MEET OTHER, UH, VITAL CRITERIA TO, UM, TO BE LANDMARKED.
SO DO WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT FIRST? WELL, I THINK, UM, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT? SORRY, STICKING WITH, OKAY.
UH, I THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE, EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION, THE COMMISSIONER, TO DECIDE WHETHER, UM, THE, THE STORY ATTACHED TO THE KIVA HOUSE, THE ARCHITECTURE, WHETHER WHAT WE, THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, UH, RISES TO THE LEVEL OF, OF WARRANTING WAIVING THE 50 YEAR, UM, UH, REQUIREMENT.
AND SHERIFF, I COULD, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO, I CAN READ THOSE CRITERIA RIGHT NOW.
UM, UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE ASSOCIATION WITH EVENTS THAT HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF OUR LOCAL, STATE OR NATIONAL HISTORY.
UH, THE SECOND WOULD BE ASSOCIATION WITH THE LIVES OF PERSONS SIGNIFICANT IN OUR LOCAL STATE OR NATIONAL PAST.
THE THIRD IS THAT AN, IT IS AN EMBODIMENT OF DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTICS OF A TYPE PERIOD OR METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION OR REPRESENTING THE WORK OF A MASTER ARCHITECT, ARTIST, ENGINEER, OR CRAFTSMAN, OR HIGH ARTISTIC VALUES, OR REPRESENTING A SIGNIFICANT AND DISTINGUISHABLE ENTITY.
WHICH INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS MAY LACK DISTINCTIVENESS, OR LASTLY, INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRE-HISTORY OR HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY OR REGION? MM-HMM.
I THINK THE, THE UNIQUE, UH, ARCHITECTURE OF IT, I THINK THE,
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THE FACT OF IT BEING FEATURED IN, IN SO MANY, UM, MAGAZINES FOR ITS, ITS UNIQUENESS.UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW BILL COOK CAME IN AND, AND DID A BUNCH OF PHOTOS OF IT AND, AND THAT'S BEEN SPREAD ALL OVER.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO I DO THINK THAT, UM, THE, THE SHEER UNIQUENESS OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE, THE BUILDING, UM, REALLY SPEAKS TO THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION.
BOB, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? NO.
THE, THE VOTE IS, IS JUST ON THE LANDMARKING.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, FOR STAFF? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? UH, NO, WE DON'T.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT SINCE THEY ARE HERE? I, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THE HOUSE.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THE HOUSE, I THINK IT'S JUST AN AMAZINGLY SIMPLE UNIQUE DESIGN.
AND I WISH THAT PEOPLE BUILD HOUSES LIKE THAT NOW.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THAT HAD PICKED UP AND THAT HAD BECOME THE ARCHITECTURAL UNDERPINNING OF SEDONA.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST UNIQUE IN EVERY WAY, AND IT'S THE RIGHT SIZE.
AND IT JUST, YOU COULD TELL THERE WAS A GREAT ARCHITECT AND GREAT BUILDER.
THERE'S A MINDFULNESS AND A THOUGHTFULNESS THAT GOES INTO THAT ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU DON'T SEE IN A LOT OF, UM, IN A LOT OF BUILDINGS.
AND I DO THINK THAT THAT LEVEL OF MINDFULNESS, THAT LEVEL OF THOUGHTFULNESS, THAT, THAT LEVEL OF, OF CONNECTION WITH IT IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE SPIRIT OF WHAT SEDONA IS.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? NO, NO COMMENTS.
THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ADD BY WAY OF DISCUSSION OR BOARD TRADING? I WOULD JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO BACK UP ONE STEP AND JUST YEAH.
ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HASN'T FILLED OUT A CARD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
BECAUSE I SAW ONE HAND KIND OF GO LIKE THAT.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP? OKAY.
UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I, I'LL JUST BRING THIS UP.
I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THIS, BUT ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS DID, UM, SUGGEST THAT, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF LANDMARK PROPERTIES GET, UM, UH, UH, PUBLIC MONEY INCENTIVES.
UM, I DO WANT TO PUT THAT TO BED.
THAT IS NOT PART OF THE LANDMARKING PROGRAM.
UH, LANDMARK STATUS DOES, UH, OPEN UP THE DOOR TO FEDERAL GRANT MONIES, UH, FOR PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE.
BUT THERE IS, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SETH, BUT THERE IS NO, UH, MONETARY INCENTIVE FROM THE CITY OR THE STATE TO, UH, TO, UM, LANDMARK A PROPERTY.
WE HAVE NO PROGRAMS OF THAT TYPE AT THIS POINT.
UH, NOT, UH, NOT HEARING ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I KNOW WHERE TO FIND IT NOW.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR CASE NUMBER HPC 0 0 0 0 2 TO DESIGNATE THE KIVA HOUSE LOCATED AT 56 LINKS DRIVE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED UPON THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK EVALUATION CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE SEDONA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUGGINS.
MOVING ON IN THE AGENDA DISCUSSION OF THE JUNE SHIPPO CONFERENCE AND SCHEDULE.
SO I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA SO THAT IF COMMISSION WANTED TO, YOU COULD DISCUSS AMONGST YOURSELVES, UM, ANY OF THE, UH, OFFERED, UH, CLASSES OR SEMINARS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU FELT YOU WANTED TO GO TO AND, AND MAYBE, UH, PERHAPS YOU WANTED YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY JUST A CHANCE IF, UH, COMMISSION WANTED TO, TO DISCUSS THAT SINCE THAT AGENDA WAS NOT OUT AT OUR LAST MEETING.
WHICH OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, ARE I'M GOING, STEVE'S GOING, I'M GOING.
BOB, JACK, UM, JUST FOR THE C, THE CLG, THE, OKAY.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, BECAUSE SEDONA IS A-C-L-G-A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE ALL NEED TO GO TO THE CLG TRAINING ON DAY ONE.
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CORRECT.AND IT IS IN THE PRE-CONFERENCE WORK SESSIONS ON TUESDAY.
AND ALSO, I WILL BE CANCELING THE RESERVATION FOR THE CITY VEHICLE UNLESS SOMEONE HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND.
BUT THE INDICATION I HAVE IS THAT IT WON'T BE NEEDED.
I'M NOT DRIVING THAT THING AGAIN, I'M NOT DRIVING THE CITY VEHICLE.
THIS PUBLIC MEETING, NO COMMENT.
UH, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN PROBABLY WORK OUT WHICH ONES, UH, WE NEED TO GO TO, BUT IF, IF, UH, AND I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER UNGER IS GOING CORRECT? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, COMMISSIONER HUGGINS OR FEENEY, IF YOU GUYS, UH, UM, SEE SOMETHING THAT CATCHES YOUR EYE, LET US LET SOMEBODY KNOW THAT YOU'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO GO TO THAT, UH, SESSION AND WE'LL WORK OUT WHO GOES, UH, MAKE SURE SOMEBODY'S THERE, BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK.
OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S, THERE'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE THREE, MAYBE FOUR SESSIONS PER BLOCK.
SO I THINK SPREADING OUT AND COVERING ALL OUR BASES, WE'LL, WE'LL GET MOST OF THEM.
SO, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? UH, NO, SIR.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE CELEBRATION FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AGAIN, THIS WAS A, THAT WASN'T ME.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT DATE? SO, UM, THIS WAS A CARRYOVER AGAIN.
SO, UH, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA SO THAT, UH, UH, THAT DISCUSSION COULD START IF IN FACT, UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, WERE IN FAVOR OF HAVING A CELEBRATION AS FOR, UH, UH, NOT JUST THE PARK, BUT FOR THE HISTORY.
UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, A CHANCE, SINCE WE ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH, A CHANCE TO MAYBE DISCUSS, UH, WHO YOU MIGHT WANT TO, UH, BE THE LEAD IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED FROM STAFF.
UH, I THINK, UH, WE NEED A DATE IS, IS THE BIG THING.
AND, AND WHETHER THAT'S GONNA BE THE SOFT OPENING DATE, UH, OR WHETHER THERE'S A HARD OPENING DATE COMING, I THINK THAT THAT MATTERS FOR PURPOSES OF PLANNING THIS.
SO I THINK THAT THE BEST THING TO DO WOULD BE, AND YOU CAN WORK THROUGH ME IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, TO DISCUSS WITH SANDY PHILLIPS, UH, WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PARK.
UM, THE HARD OPENING DATE, IF YOU WILL, UH, LOOKS LIKE IT WON'T BE FOR QUITE SOME TIME DUE TO THE RESTROOMS TO YES.
RESTROOMS AND THE, THE PLAYGROUND RESTROOMS AND THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE EXTERIOR.
UH, MY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO TIE IT TO A HARD OPENING.
UM, RATHER THAN A SOFT OPENING.
I THINK YOU'D GET MORE EXPOSURE AND, AND MORE EYES ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ASPECT OF IT.
UM, UH, SO I, I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND, AND SANDY AND, AND WE'LL NAIL DOWN A DATE.
I THINK, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY OR THIS GROUP, OR NANCY BURGESS PUT TOGETHER A HISTORY OF FACT OF THE AREA.
I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME TO US, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WAS SON STABLY? UH, WHERE'D THEY LIVE? WHERE WAS THEIR, UM, UM, HOTEL? WHERE, WHERE DID THE CHILD FALL OFF THE HORSE? UH, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD PUT THE INFORMATION ON THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY, AND HAVE A HISTORIC THAT COULD BE READ AT OUR OPENING.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD SAY, THIS, THIS PROPERTY, THIS HAPPENED ON THIS DATE.
UH, THIS IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THAT COULD BE TURNED INTO PLAQUES OR THINGS DOWN THE LINE.
BUT I DO THINK, UH, WE OUGHT TO PUT TOGETHER, UM, A REALLY GOOD HISTORY OF THAT AREA.
AND I THINK THE, THE WORK GROUP, UM, HAS A DOCUMENT, UM, THAT SPEAKS SAID, BUT IT'S WRITTEN IN, IN TERMS OF LIKE PLAQUE BY PLAQUE.
SO IT'S, IT'S SNIPPETS, RIGHT.
SO, UM, BUT THAT COULD BE CERTAINLY EXPANDED INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, IN DEPTH.
I JUST ENVISION THAT THE MAYOR IS GOING TO, UM, WHOEVER OUR MAYOR IS AT THE TIME, UH, IF, UH, IF THE MAYOR WAS TO SPEAK TO IT, HE WOULD READ, HE WOULD READ SOMETHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE AREA TO THE GROUP, THEN WOULD IT BE, BUT GO, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
AND I THINK, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER AN OFFICIAL HISTORY OF THE PARK, MAYBE NANCY BURGESS COULD BE LOOKED AT DOWN THE LINE TO REALLY DO, DO SOME, UM, LOOKING IN OLD, UM, PICTURES, OLD
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MAGAZINES, UH, ARTICLES OF THE RED ROCK NEWS, AND PUT TOGETHER A FACTUAL HISTORY OF IT.WHAT, WHAT ABOUT USING A WIRELESS LINK? WELL, I THINK THERE ARE SOME, SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
AND I THINK THE WORK GROUP TALKED ABOUT, UM, USING QR CODES, UH, TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE INTERPRETIVE PANELS THAT'LL ULTIMATELY BE THERE IN PHASE TWO AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, UM, TO, UM, EXPLORE MORE IN DEPTH.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, A TEXT PANEL, YOU'RE GONNA OVERWHELM SOMEBODY IF YOU GET TOO MANY WORDS.
TOO MUCH ON THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO YOU REALLY WANT THAT TO BE JUST A PITHY KIND OF, UH, HERE'S THE STORY AND IF YOU WANT MORE, HIT THIS QR CODE, IT'LL LAND YOU HERE.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE PLACES THAT COULD TAKE YOU TO, I THINK THAT COULD TAKE YOU TO A STATIC WEBSITE, WHICH WOULDN'T BE TERRIBLE.
UM, 'CAUSE YOU COULD HOT LINK THINGS, WHATEVER.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, I WAS, I WAS, UH, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS AND STEVE'S COMMENT, UM, GOT ME THINKING ABOUT IT A LITTLE MORE JUST NOW.
UM, THERE'S A WEBSITE CALLED THE CLIO THAT'S A GEOMAPPING, UH, STORYBOARD.
UM, AND THAT'S EXACTLY KIND OF WHAT STEVE WAS GETTING AT.
UM, AND GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DROP PICTURES AND MOVIES AND, AND WHATEVER ELSE.
LONG DESCRIPTION, SHORT DESCRIPTION.
SO PEOPLE CAN GO AS DEEP AS THEY WANT.
UM, REALLY, REALLY A GREAT TOOL.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.
UM, AND I THINK WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THAT TOO IS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD HIT IT ON THE SPOT AND BE LIKE, I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THIS, YOU KNOW, AND GO HOME AND READ IT AT THEIR LEISURE.
I THINK SOMEBODY IN THE TUCSON GROUP HAS ALREADY DONE SOME OF THIS.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD RESOURCE.
THE AGENDA WAS SPECIFIC TO THE GOOD POINT.
UH, TO THE CELEBRATION THAT THE COMMISSION.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE, THE CELEBRATION? I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH YOU AND SANDY AND WE'LL NAIL DOWN SOME DATES AS, AS, UH, THINGS FIRM UP AND ABSOLUTELY.
UPDATE ON THE OAK CREEK TAVERN RECOGNITION PLAQUE.
SO, GOOD NEWS, I HAVE PROCURED THE FILM, AND, UH, THEY SHOULD BE READY BY NEXT WEEK.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO SET A DATE OR TIME TO PRESENT, UM, THOSE PLAQUES WILL BE READY FOR SUCH.
IS THAT, UH, SOMETHING WE WANTED TO DISCUSS HERE? DO WE WANNA, UM, OFFLINE FIND A DATE? THAT'LL WORK.
AND, AND IS THAT ABOUT INSTALLATION? YEAH.
OR IS IT JUST PRESENTING? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
MY, MY ASSUMPTION WAS, WAS INSTALLATION.
SO I, I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT IS NEEDED.
I THOUGHT THAT PUBLIC WORKS WAS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS.
I, I VOLUNTEERED TO INSTALL IT.
SO JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN, WHERE YOU WANT IT IN POINT.
SO, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS IS, IS IS THERE SOME SORT OF A PUBLIC RECOGNITION WHEN IT'S UP, OR WHAT'S DO WE WANT THAT THEY WANT? IT'S, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, IS THAT WHAT IS THE COMMISSION LOOKING FOR? WHAT IS THE BUILDING OWNER LOOKING FOR? UM, WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST? UM, SO I, I, I, AGAIN, THIS IS A, A, A CHANCE TO, TO GET THAT DISCUSSION GOING, UH, KNOWING THAT, UH, THE FILM HAS COME IN NOW AND, AND, UH, WE CAN PROTECT THOSE SIGNS AS REQUESTED.
WELL, IT'S GONNA NEED, LIKE, THERE AGAIN OF A HISTORY OF SIGNIFICANCE.
BUT IT HAS TO, WE EITHER ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CEREMONY OR THE PLAQUE HAS TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE I CAN DO THAT.
AND BY THE WAY, THE PRESS RELEASE WOULD GO THROUGH THE CITY, SO IT'S NOT AN INDEPENDENT THING.
THE CITY WILL WILL SEND IT OUT.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE TO GO WITH THIS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS FOR US TO DECIDE TODAY.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM US TODAY? SO I, I THINK NUMBER ONE, IT WAS TO START THAT DISCUSSION.
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BACK DOOR.I, I, IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, SO JUST, JUST TO START THAT BALL ROWING, KNOWING THAT THE SIGNS WILL BE READY NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND THAT, UH, UM, PERHAPS THE DISCUSSION CAN START ON WHAT AND WHEN.
UM, I THINK TOM IS STILL THERE.
I, I THINK, UH, CHASE IS IN CALIFORNIA, I BELIEVE.
HE HAS A NEW GENERAL MANAGER NOW.
HAS ANYONE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER LATELY TO SEE IF THEY WANT NO.
THE GROUP GATHERING? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
UM, I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO APPROACH THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND, AND I THINK IF, IF SOMEBODY HAS HISTORY WITH THEM, I THINK THAT'S, IT'S BETTER FOR, FOR THAT PERSON TO DO IT AND TO, UH, TO UH, FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT.
YOU KNOW? DO THEY WANT A BIG THING? DO THEY JUST WANT IT STUCK ON THE BUILDING AND A PRESS RELEASE GOING OUT SAYING, HEY, THIS IS DONE.
OR, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK, I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD WRITE A LETTER OR CALL UP TOM.
UM, I THINK HE'S THE ONE THAT WOULD BE PROUD OF IT, BUT I, HE'S THE ONE I WOULD WORK WITH.
UM, I KNOW HIM, BUT NOT THAT WELL.
I THINK MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY SHOULD CALL 'EM UP AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THE PLAQUES.
CAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET 'EM.
UH, HE CAN SHOW ME WHERE HE THINKS THEY GO, AND THEN I CAN, YOU KNOW, INSTALL 'EM.
THEN ONCE THEY'RE INSTALLED, WE CAN DECIDE.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PR A MONTH LATER.
SO I, BUT I DO THINK SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY SHOULD PROBABLY CONTACT, UM, THE BUILDING OWNER AND SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
BUT TOM GILMAN'S THE ONE I WOULD CONTACT.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A COURSE OF ACTION THAT WE CAN PURSUE? SOUNDS LIKE A JOB FOR STAFF.
WRITING, WRITING DOWN MY, YOU GUYS MARCHING ORDERS,
ANYTHING ELSE ON OAK CREEK TAVERN RECOGNITION.
MOVING ON TO FUTURE MEETING DATES.
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO ASK IF ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE ON VACATION.
UM, THERE'S TYP THERE'S TYPICALLY BEEN A SUMMER BREAK.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE? AND WHETHER IT WAS IN JUNE OR JULY OR AUGUST, OR ALL THREE
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON THIS IS ON THE AGENDA HERE, IS TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT I KIND OF, UH, GIVEN THAT THE, THE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE IS THE END OF JUNE, I, I MIGHT ALMOST SUGGEST NOT MEETING IN JUNE, MEETING IN JULY, COMING BACK AND DISCUSSING IT, DISCUSS IT.
WHILE IT'S STILL FRESH IN OUR MINDS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DATE WOULD BE.
THE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UH, THE 10TH, 10TH FIRST MONDAY IN JULY.
ONE POINT FOR THE JULY MEETING IS THAT THE ATTENDEES OF THE CONFERENCE ARE TO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY LEARNED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO COULD NOT ATTEND THOSE SESSIONS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE POINT IN MEETING IN JULY.
IS THAT DIRECTED TO ME?
UH, ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE AGENDA? UH, AS OF NOW, ASIDE FROM, UH, PRESERVATION CONFERENCE DISCUSSION.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY.
AND THAT BEING THE CASE, UH, WE CAN MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT.
GET THAT BACK IN TIME NOT TO WEAR OFF.
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GOOD? YEAH.YOU FINALLY CAME TO A MEETING, HUH?