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YEAH.OH, I GOTTA DO MY, YEAH, I KNOW.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES OR ANY OTHER DEVICES.
[1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE]
WELCOME EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY TO THE THREE O'CLOCK WORK SESSION.UH, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.
MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR JALO.
JUST SO LET YOU KNOW WE ARE SLATED FOR, THIS IS A TWO HOUR WORK SESSION.
IF WE CAN ALL TRY TO KEEP IT AT TWO HOURS, UH, I THINK WE'D ALL APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY IF THE LAST NIGHT,
[3.a. AB 2740 Discussion/possible direction regarding an update on progress made on the Climate Action Plan. ]
UH, ITEM THREE A ON THE SPECIAL BUSINESS AB 27 40 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS MADE ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.ALRIGHT, BRYCE, YOU'RE LEADING THE WAY OR A MOMENT.
WE'RE GONNA GET OUR, THE PRESENTATION.
I, YEAH, IT ALWAYS HAPPENS THE WORST TIME.
GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL.
WE'RE A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A VARIETY OF, UH, TOPICS AS OUR, FOR OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, BUT I WANT TO TAKE A, A BRIEF MOMENT TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW, UH, TEAM MEMBER, UH, SETH GARDNER.
OFF TO MY RIGHT HERE, UH, IS AN AMERICORPS, UH, THAT, UH, HAS COMING ALONG WITH US, UH, FOR THE SUMMER HERE.
CAN WE KEEP WELCOME? CAN WE KEEP 'EM? THANK YOU.
YEAH, WE'VE DONE REALLY, REALLY WELL WITH AMERICORPS PEOPLE, SO A GREAT ASSET.
AND, UH, UH, WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL AMERICORPS THAT'LL BE COMING ON NEXT WEEK, UH, AS WELL.
SO WE HOPE TO, UH, ALSO INTRODUCE, UH, HER TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
SO, UH, TO KICK US OFF SOME OF, UH, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE, BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF, UH, OUR FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS TO HELP GUIDE, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO WE HAD THE SEDONA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WHICH WAS CREATED IN JULY OF 2021, UH, WITH SOME OF THOSE HIGHLIGHTED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF, UH, REDUCING COMMUNITY WIDE EMISSIONS BY 2030.
BUT THAT'S, UH, NOT THE ONLY GOAL WITHIN THE PLAN, UH, MANY ADDITIONAL GOALS INCLUDE IMPROVING COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, COMMUNITY MOBILITY, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCES, WASTE DIVERSION, UH, FIRE, UM, PREVENT PRIOR, PRIOR PREVENTION, AND LIKE EMERGENCY PLANNING, OPERATIONS, WATER RESOURCES, AND LIKE.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT WAS CREATED IN 2020, UH, WITH SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL GOALS WITHIN THAT AS BEING RESILIENT, BEING CARBON NEUTRAL AND BEING HEALTHY WORKPLACE.
SO, UH, JUST KIND OF, UH, YOU'VE SEEN THOSE COMPONENTS BEFORE, BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE, THE BROAD STROKES AND JUST WHAT GUIDES THE DEPARTMENT, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH OUR, UH, OBJECTIVES AND INITIATIVES THAT WE, UH, PUSH FORWARD.
AND SO WE BEGAN, I'LL, UH, HAND THIS OFF TO ZACH TO, TO COVER, UH, SOME OF THE COMPONENTS, UH, THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH RECENTLY WITH THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE OVERVIEW.
UH, YEAH, SO, LIKE BRYCE SAID, I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER REAL QUICK, UM, GO OVER SOME, SOME TOPICS, UH, RELATED TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, UM, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING AND FOUNDATION OF THIS, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGING OVER THE LAST, UH, FEW YEARS.
UM, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, CONFERENCES AND RESEARCH THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE STATE IS DOING.
UM, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, OUR PLAN SO FAR OF HELPING TO TRANSITION, UH, THE CITY TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS PER THE GREEN FLEET POLICY.
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UM, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL ALL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT OTHER CITIES AND, UM, COUNTIES HAVE BEEN DOING WITHIN THE STATE AND WITHIN THE COUNTRY AS WELL.UM, SO MAYOR, DO YOU WANT QUESTIONS DURING, AFTER, AS YOU GO? IS THAT OKAY, GENTLEMEN? GREAT.
UM, SO FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT'S BEEN CONDUCTING RESEARCH, UH, COLLABORATING WITH OTHER CITIES AND, UH, ATTENDING REGIONAL, UH, EV CONFERENCES.
UM, SO THE LATEST EV CONFERENCE, UH, THAT WE WENT TO IS WHAT'S ON THE SLIDE HERE, UH, ELECTRIC, UH, ARIZONA ELECTRIC FLEET DAY, UM, WHICH, UH, TOOK PLACE IN PHOENIX A FEW MONTHS AGO.
UH, WE LEARNED THAT, UH, CITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE RAMPING UP THE ELECTRIFICATION OF THEIR VEHICLE FLEETS.
UM, THE UTILITIES, UH, LIKE A PS SALT RIVER PROJECT, UH, THEY CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AND ACT AS, UH, IMPORTANT VALUABLE RESOURCE TO HELPING THE CITY, UH, THE NOT OTHER CITIES AND THE STATE, UM, ELECTRIFY, UM, IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE EV CHARGERS, UM, A PS FOR EXAMPLE, UM, OUR POWER COMPANY, UH, IS THE REASON THAT WE HAVE SUCH AMAZING, UH, FOUR DC FAST CHARGERS AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK, UH, WHICH CONSTITUTED A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF, UM, COMPLIMENTARY, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF USE.
UM, AND THEN EVERY YEAR TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING BETTER.
BATTERY RANGES ARE GROWING, UM, AND MORE MAKE AND MODELS OF, UH, OF EVS ARE GETTING PUT ONTO THE MARKET TO FILL OUR NEEDS.
UM, SO THE INDUSTRY'S GROWING.
UM, WE'RE ALSO, WE ALSO GAINED A LOT OF, UH, GOOD INSIGHTS AS TO WHAT OTHER CITIES AND COMPANIES, UM, THAT, UH, ARE DOING, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, ELECTRIFICATION.
UH, AND WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME GOOD PRACTICES, BEST PRACTICES, UH, SOME, JUST TWO EXAMPLES, UM, PLANNING FOR ELECTRIFICATION DURING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
UM, A GRAND MAJORITY OF COSTS THAT COMES WITH, UH, INSTALLING ELECTRIC CHARGERS IS ACTUALLY RIPPING UP THE CONCRETE AND ASPHALT, UH, AND INSTALLING ALL THE CONDUIT, ALL THE MACHINERY AND LABOR THAT GOES INTO IT.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PLAN FOR ELECTRIFICATION FROM THE START OF PROJECTS AND INSTALL CONDUIT, MAKE IT EV READY, UM, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE SAVING QUITE A LOT OF MONEY, UM, FOR INSTALLATION.
UM, UH, ANOTHER QUICK THING THAT WE JUST LEARNED FROM THAT CONFERENCE IS THAT, UM, IF YOU DO, WHEN YOU DO INSTALL DC FAST CHARGERS, UM, SOMETIMES THE POWER OUTPUT FOR THAT BUILDING YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR CHARGERS AT, UH, DOESN'T REALLY EXIST OR, UH, IT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OR THE DEMANDS OF YOUR FAST CHARGER.
SO, UM, ORDERING DC FAST CHARGERS AHEAD OF TIME IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
OR, UH, WELL IN ADVANCE, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, BECAUSE SOME PARTS LIKE TRANSFORMERS, UM, HAVE A LONG LEAD TIME.
SO, UH, IF YOU WANT TO BE INSTALLING DC FAST CHARGERS, UM, WE NEED TO BE ORDERING THEM A YEAR IN ADVANCE FOR SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF LEAD TIMES FOR SOME PARTS.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, DON'T WANT TO GET, UH, GO TOO DEEP INTO THIS, UH, INTO WHAT ALL THE THINGS WE LEARNED.
BUT, UM, LASTLY, WE LEARNED THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER CITIES AND COMPANIES THAT HAVE ELECTRIFIED, THEY ARE SEEING THE EXACT SAME THING, UH, THAT, UM, THE NATION IS SEEING, WHICH IS MASSIVE SAVINGS WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
UM, SO JUST BY EXAMPLE, AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE HAS AROUND 20 MOVING PARTS IN IT.
AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE HAS OVER 2000.
AND SO JUST BY THAT ALONE, YOU'RE SEEING MASSIVE, UH, REDUCTIONS IN MAINTENANCE COSTS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO OIL CHANGES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THE GAS CARS REQUIRE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.
AND SO OVER, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THE COST, UH, OVER THE LIFETIME OF THESE VEHICLES, YOU'RE SEEING MASSIVE SAVINGS.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF, YEAH, GETTING BACK TO THAT COSTS AND CHARGING, UM, WHAT WE SEE IS GASOLINE VEHICLES DO COST MORE, OR SORRY, GASOLINE VEHICLES DO, UH, ARE CHEAPER UP FRONT.
BUT AGAIN, THE WHOLE LIFE, THE LIFE CYCLE OF THAT VEHICLE, WE ARE SEEING CHEAPER MAINTENANCE AND CHEAPER OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR EVS.
AND OVER THE LIFETIME, IT, UH, IT OVERCOMES THE COSTS OF THE GAS VEHICLES.
AND WE'RE SEEING THAT AGAIN IN, UH, COMPANIES AND CITIES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THIS AND BASED OFF OF STATISTICS NATIONALLY.
UM, SO IT'S LIVING UP TO THOSE STATISTICS, UM, ON THE GROUND.
UM, AND SO, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT, UH, CONDUCTED A, UH, RU OF REBURY OR INITIAL, UM, SORRY,
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YOUR TIME.OH, YEAH, JUST DRY MOUTH, LITTLE DRIED OUT
I, SO, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED A, UH, RUDIMENTARY OR INITIAL, UH, COST ANALYSIS BETWEEN, UH, OH, EXCUSE ME, A COST ANALYSIS OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD, UH, FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA COMPARING, UH, OUR 74 VEHICLE FLEETS, UM, VERSUS TRANSITIONING OUR ENTIRE FLEET OVER TO EVS OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD.
UM, AND OUR ANALYSIS, UH, LOOKED AT UPFRONT COSTS, MAINTENANCE, OPERATIONAL COSTS, UM, INFLATION INSURANCE, UM, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, VARIABLES.
UM, AND WE FOUND THAT OVER 10 YEARS, THE CITY, BY TRANSITIONING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, UH, WOULD BE SAVING APPROXIMATELY $500,000 OVER 10 YEARS.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, YOUR GUYS' THOUGHT ABOUT PLUGIN HYBRIDS.
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE FLAVOR OF THE MONTH, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME OF YEAR OR AT, AT THIS POINT, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS MAYBE KIND OF SWITCHING TO A PLUGIN HYBRID AS A PREFERRED MODEL.
ANY THOUGHTS FROM YOU GUYS ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING IN THE INDUSTRY? YEAH, SO THAT, UH, THAT CHANGE THAT YOU MENTIONED HAS DEFINITELY, UH, KIND OF BEEN FLUCTUATING WITHIN THE, THE MARKET AS A WHOLE FROM, UH, OUR, LIKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE FOR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND THE, LIKE, DIRECT EV VEHICLES HAVE THE, THE BEST IMPACT FOR IT.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PROCURE DIRECT EV, THEN YOU WOULD LOOK TO A PLUGIN HYBRID AND THEN A HYBRID, AND THEN A BATTERY, OR THEN A STANDARD, UH, GAS VEHICLE OR WHATNOT.
SO IT'S A, UH, IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT OVER, UH, TRADITIONAL ICE, UH, INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE APPROACH THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO UTILIZE TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WOULD BE TO, TO SECURE EV UH, DIRECT EVS.
MR. MAYOR, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, ANDY, GO AHEAD.
UM, I, I, UH, HELP OUT THE SUSTAINABILITY
SO I MIGHT THROW OUT THERE TOO, THAT WHEN YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE HYBRID MODEL, ONE OF THE BIG ADVANTAGES THAT YOU'RE LOSING IS THE REDUCTION IN MAINTENANCE.
SO WHILE YOU ARE GAINING SOME EFFICIENCY WITH YOUR FUEL, UM, SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR OWN FLEET, UM, KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT ISSUE WITH A HIGHER MAINTENANCE COST FOR THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLES.
AND NOT TO BE REPETITIVE, BUT, UM, LIKE BRYCE SAID, THE COST OF PLUGIN HYBRIDS IS JUST UNDER AND A FULLY ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
AND JUST IN TERMS OF UPFRONT COST, AND THEN, LIKE ANDY SAID, YOU'RE LOSING THAT, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL SAVINGS VICE MAYOR, WE, THE, I THINK THE REASON THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE PLUG IN HYBRID IS 'CAUSE OF THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? THE INFRASTRUCTURE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, WHAT, $7 BILLION, SOME OF THE, IT'S JUST HASN'T CAUGHT ON, CAUGHT UP WITH THE DEMAND.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, UM, ACTUALLY IN THIS SLIDE.
UM, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S GROWING QUITE QUICKLY.
UM, SO, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S MY, MY NEXT BULLET POINT IS, UH, JUST CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO, UM, PUBLIC CHARGING CONTINUES TO BE BUILT IN SEDONA.
WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB JUST BY OURSELVES, UM, MUCH BETTER THAN A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES.
UM, BUT THE STATE IS ALSO KICKING IN.
UM, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHICH WAS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT OF CLIMATE RELATED, UM, FUNDING IN THE NATION'S HISTORY.
UM, SO CHARGERS ARE BEING BUILT, UM, AT A PRETTY QUICK, A PRETTY FAST RATE.
UM, SO THOSE GAPS ARE BEING FILLED.
AND JUST IN SEDONA, IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE HAD FOUR DC FAST CHARGERS ADDED.
WE'VE HAD TWO LEVEL TWO CHARGERS ADDED, AND THEN WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE, UM, GARAGE, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING SIX MORE DC FAST CHARGERS ADDED TO UPTOWN, UH, WITH THE, UH, CAPABILITY OF EXPANDING TO 10.
UM, SO WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB, UH, ON THAT.
IS THAT ENOUGH? I MEAN, WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF HOW MUCH THE CHARGERS WE HAVE ARE MEETING THE DEMAND? SO, UM, THESE ARE PUB OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY, IS THAT ON ANOTHER SLIDE? OH, I, UH, IT, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT, UH, SO THE CHARGERS THAT WE'VE INSTALLED SO FAR, THESE ARE FOR PUBLIC USE.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, UM, THIS IS PART OF THE DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP IS IDENTIFYING BASED OFF OF OUR FUEL USAGE, UM, MILES DRIVEN, UM, HOW, AND, AND, UH, YEAH.
SO FUEL USAGE, MILES DRIVEN, UM,
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WHAT IS OUR NEED FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THAT, UH, A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UM, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, WELL, I'M ACTUALLY JUST IN TWO DAYS, I'M ABOUT TO BE, UH, ORDERING SOME MUNICIPAL FACING CHARGERS FOR THE CITY.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, THERE ARE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC CHARGERS THAT ARE INSTALLED ON CITY PROPERTIES, UM, INDIVIDUAL HOTELS AND PLACES HAVE DONE THAT, HAVE INSTALLED THEM AS WELL.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE? OKAY, THANK YOU.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT OR NOT.
UH, ZACH, DID YOU HIGHLIGHT THE, THE TRANSITION TO KNOX AND THE ADOPTION BY OTHER, UH, NO, NOT YET.
SO, UH, THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE COUNTRY, UM, IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, STARTING IN 2025, THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE COUNTRY AND ALL EV CHARGER, ALL EVS ARE GOING TO BE STANDARDIZED IN TERMS OF, UH, CHARGING.
UH, SO IT HAPPENED WITH YOUR CELL PHONES, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT CHARGER YOU'RE REALLY USING ANYMORE.
UM, SO THE SAME THING'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH EVS.
SO WE'RE CHANGING OVER TO TESLA'S MODEL.
TESLA DOMINATES THE, THE INDUSTRY OF, UM, OF CHARGING EV CHARGERS THAT THEY CONSTITUTE ABOUT 60% OF THE NATION'S INFRASTRUCTURE OF CHARGERS.
UM, SO WHAT THAT STANDARD IS CALLED IS THE NORTH AMERICAN CHARGING STANDARD.
SO THAT NOT ONLY MEANS YOU'RE NOT, THAT DOESN'T JUST MEAN YOU'RE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING THE RIGHT CHARGER OR ADAPTER ANYMORE.
UH, IF YOU'RE A FORD OWNER, CHEVY TOYOTA, ANY OTHER MAJOR CAR MANUFACTURER IN THE COUNTRY, UM, YOU ARE NOW GOING TO BE GIVEN ACCESS TO TESLA'S SUPERCHARGING NETWORK.
UM, SO YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, A VERY REAL CONCERN ABOUT, UH, GAPS AND RANGE ANXIETY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE JUST HASN'T CAUGHT UP.
UM, IT'S CATCHING UP VERY QUICKLY.
UM, AND WITH THE STANDARDIZATION THAT'S FILLING A LOT OF THE GAPS.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE IS DOING, WE HAVE THE ARIZONA NATIONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING.
UM, SO THIS IS A MAP OF, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT, UM, THE MAP OF FUTURE CHARGERS.
SO THE STATE IS INVESTING, UM, MULTIPLE MILLIONS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UM, EXCUSE ME, UM, FOR ADDING NEW CHARGERS.
AND THESE ARE ALL DC FAST CHARGERS, UH, NEW CHARGERS, AND, UH, UPGRADING THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE TO DC FAST CHARGERS.
AND THESE ARE ALL FOCUSED ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS.
UM, SO YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THERE'S, UH, AT LEAST TWO LOCATIONS IN BETWEEN PHOENIX AND, UH, THE VERDE VALLEY, UH, INCLUDING CAMP VERDE.
UM, AND I CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THIS CORDS JUNCTION.
UM, SO ONE NEW STATION IN CAMP VERDE AND CORDS JUNCTION IS BEING UPGRADED.
UM, SO AGAIN, THESE GAPS WERE BEING CLOSED QUITE QUICKLY.
UM, AND THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, EV RANGES, UM, WE DID JUST A, UH, ANALYSIS ON WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE RANGE THAT BY CLASS, UH, TRUCKS, SUVS, SEDANS, WHAT ARE THESE, UH, VEHICLES GETTING ON AVERAGE? UM, WE DID NOT GET, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVERY SINGLE MODEL OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE BUYING AS A CITY, JUST LUXURY EVS.
UM, THIS WAS REALLY JUST FORD LIGHTNING, CHEVY, CHEVY, SILVERADOS, THE, THE, THE STUFF THAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA BE BUYING, UM, POTENTIALLY.
UM, SO TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT, TRUCKS GENERALLY GET ABOUT 360, UH, MILES PER CHARGE, SUVS AROUND 284 AND SEDANS ABOUT 316.
SO, UH, THERE, THERE IS NO AMOUNT, UH, AS PER OUR DATA, THERE IS NO DAY THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT ANY VEHICLE IN THE CITY IS DRIVING EVEN CLOSE TO THAT AMOUNT OF RANGE.
SO IN TERMS OF RANGE ANXIETY WITHIN CITY OPERATIONS, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN MET AND DEALT WITH.
IT'S THE, THE RANGE IS THERE, UM, BY FAR THAT, UM, YES, SIR.
UH, SO IN THE, IN THE INSTANCE OF TRUCKS, CITY TRUCKS, YES SIR.
THE RANGE GOING FOR A UNFILLED TRUCK, UTILITY TRUCK, MAINTENANCE TRUCK FILLED WITH TOOLS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT VERSUS EMPTY, DOESN'T THAT HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THE RANGE? UH, YES, SIR.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION THAT, OR THAT THAT IS THE SAME ISSUE THAT HAPPENS WITH GAS VEHICLES.
I KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN CHARGING TIME.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WITH THESE DC FAST CHARGERS THAT ARE GOING UP ALL OVER TOWN, UM, WE WERE CUTTING THE, THE CHARGING TIME, SO JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES, UM, INSTEAD OF, IT USED TO BE LIKE AN HOUR OR MORE.
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UH, FOR POLICE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE, AS PER OUR DATA, THE LONGEST DAY THEY'VE EVER DRIVEN, UH, THAT WE'VE SEEN IT FROM THE DATA WE HAVE IS 35 MILES, INCLUDING TWO.AND FROM, UM, THAT'S AVERAGE, OR, I'M SORRY.
UH, THE AVERAGE MILES THAT WE'VE SEEN, UM, IS ABOUT 35 MILES.
UM, THAT'S INCLUDING TRAVEL TO AND FROM HOME FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING ON A POLICE CAR, THEY'RE ONLY DOING 35 MILES AND A, A COURSE OF A 12 HOUR TOUR.
UH, THE MAX THAT WE SAW FROM THE POLICE WAS 147 MILES PER DAY, PER DAY FOR A DAY.
AND THAT COVERS 'EM FOR A CHARGE.
UH, SUVS ARE 284 MILES, AND IF THEY HAVE TO, ALRIGHT, I'M NOT GONNA GO DEEP INTO THAT.
I, I, I HAVE TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT TOPIC OF POLICE CARS BECAUSE YES, SIR, I'M FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN NOT DOING ALL THAT WELL IN DEPARTMENTS THAT I KNOW, BUT MY DATA COULD BE OLD.
ZACH, ZACH, UM, FOR THAT MILEAGE, THAT MAX DAILY MILEAGE, DIDN'T THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE COMMUTE FOR THE OFFICER AS WELL? AM I REMEMBERING THAT? OKAY, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS.
OUR CITY FROM EAST TO WEST IS ONLY SIX TO SEVEN MILES ACROSS, BUT YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER'S COMMUTE HOME AND BACK IS, IS PART OF THEIR DAILY MILEAGE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT JUST THE DAILY USE? IT WAS 160 MILES PER A HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN, A HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN PER DAY, AND THAT WAS A MAX, NOT AN AVERAGE.
THE AVERAGE IS, UH, 35 FOR THE POLICE PER DAY.
ALRIGHT, JESSICA? YEAH, JUST ON THAT POINT, THERE ARE CHARGING STATIONS AROUND TOWN, I MEAN, AND MORE GOING IN.
SO I DON'T TRUST IT'S, IT, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IT WAS PRETTY WELL COVERED, AT LEAST FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
AND WE'LL BE GETTING, I'LL BE GETTING TO, UH, THAT'S MY NEXT, NEXT SLIDE IS JUST OUR PLAN OF TRANSITIONING SPECIFICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, SINCE THEY DO HAVE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
UH, ONE LAST THING I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS JUST, UM, UH, WE DID FIND THAT IT'S THE SAME WITH GAS VEHICLES, BUT WITH EVS, UH, IT'S NO DIFFERENT.
UH, THE TEMPERATURE, AMBIENT TEMPERATURE, UH, DOES IMPACT RANGE.
SO 80 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, A LOT OF STUDIES HAVE FOUND, UH, IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE MAX RANGE, UH, THE BEST RANGE POSSIBLE, UH, FROM YOUR CHARGE.
UH, BUT ONCE IT STARTS TO DIP BELOW 20 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, YOU'RE GONNA START TO SEE, UH, DECREASE IN YOUR EFFICIENCY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE SAME FOR, FOR GAS VEHICLES.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UH, ONE THING ON THESE, THESE TWO MAPS OF THIS MAP ON THE LEFT WAS, UH, THE 2020, UH, THE INITIAL 2022, UH, EV PLANNING FOR THE NEVY PLANNING WITHIN THE STATE.
AND SO THE GOAL IS THAT ON, ON STATE HIGHWAYS, INTERSTATES, THAT THERE'S A CHARGING LOCATION FOR DC FAST CHARGERS EVERY 50 MILES.
UH, AND THEN THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS, UH, KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING THOSE INITIAL, UH, PLANNING STAGES.
THE DARKER BLUE LINE WAS THEIR INITIAL, UH, INTERSTATE ROUTES.
THE, UH, RED LINE, UH, WAS THE 2023, UH, EV PLANNING STAGE, AND THEN THE 2024, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE ON THE MAP, BUT IT, UH, COVERS SOME OF THE LIGHTER BLUE, UH, WHICH IN, UH, ENCOMPASSES, UH, HIGHWAY, UH, ONE, WAS IT TWO SIX, I FORGOT THE HIGHWAY FROM TWO 60, UH, TWO 60 INTO COTTONWOOD, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, 1 79, UH, COMING INTO, UH, SEDONA AND THE LIKE.
SO, UH, AS THE STATE IS BUILDING THAT OUT, THEY'RE BUILDING ADDITIONAL PLANNING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
HOLLY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH.
SO ARE THEY ON TARGET? SO THE 20, IS IT THE 2022 PLAN? THE INITIAL PLANNING FOR THAT, THEY JUST WENT OUT TO AN RFB FOR THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION OF IT.
UH, AND SO THAT, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ON TARGET FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE STATE ON, ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, THE FUNDING TO GET ADDITIONAL CHARGING ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, SO JUST MOVING ON TO, UM, OUR APPROACH FOR, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR POLICE, UM, AND TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, SNOW REMOVAL VEHICLES, UM, SNOW PLOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO OUR, UH, FIRST OFF, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, COLLABORATING WITH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THAT COLLABORATION, COMMUNICATION, UM, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
UM, BUT, UH, OUR APPROACH FOR THEM RIGHT NOW IS A PHASED APPROACH OVER, UH, A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UM, WHERE WE'RE, UH, BASICALLY GOING TO BE STARTING OUT WITH, UH, INSTALLING POLICE DEDICATED D UH, UH, CHARGERS, UH, FOR THE POLICE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, UM, PUBLIC CHARGERS, THAT'S NOT REALLY A REALISTIC OPTION FOR THEM.
THEY CAN'T WAIT IN LINE IF THEY NEED TO, TO CHARGE.
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TO BE WORKING TO GET THEM THEIR OWN DEDICATED CHARGERS.UH, AND THEN QUICKLY AFTER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WORKING WITH THEM TO PROCURE AND OUTFIT, UH, TWO TO FOUR, TWO TO FOUR, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, UM, AS A PILOT AND DATA COLLECTING, UH, EFFORT FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
AND IF WE FIND THAT, UH, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, LIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, HAVE, UM, IF WE FIND, UH, THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES DO IN FACT SERVE AT LEAST A GRAND MAJORITY OF THEIR NEEDS, UM, THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, INSTALLING MORE POLICE DEDICATED CHARGERS, UM, MUNICIPAL FACING CHARGERS, UM, AS WELL AS CONTINUING TO, UH, PURCHASE MORE CHARGERS AS A PHASED APPROACH OVER TIME.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE GREEN FLEET POLICY, UM, SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT FOR HOME CHARGING.
UM, WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, POLICE VE OFFICERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED VEHICLES, TAKE HOME VEHICLES.
UM, SO THERE IS, UH, A SECTION IN THE GREEN FLEET POLICY THAT ADDRESSES THAT, UM, FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO VEHICLES, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, WHEN IT COMES TO OFFICERS THAT DON'T HAVE, UM, VERY, UH, IMMEDIATE OR, UH, HANDS-ON CHARGING, UM, SORRY, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PHRASE.
JUST THEY DON'T LIVE IN A HOME, IN THEIR OWN HOME, THAT THEY LIVE IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING WITHOUT THEIR OWN GARAGE, BASICALLY.
UM, SO THE OFFICERS THAT LIVE, UH, IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX WITHOUT ANY OUTLETS NEARBY, THOSE ARE THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE, UM, TRANSITIONING LAST.
UM, BUT THE, THE OFFICERS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN HOMES, THEIR OWN GARAGES, UM, AND CAN CHARGE AT HOME WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT ANY ISSUE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GET THEM, UH, OUTFITTED FIRST, BRIAN FIRST.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA, UH, CONTINUE UNTIL WE, UH, SUCCESSFULLY HAVE TRANSITIONED THAT THAT FLEET, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE ADAPTING.
THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD, BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN AND COLLABORATING WITH THEM AND WORKING WITH OTHER CITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THIS ROLLOUT IS AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR ZACH, REFRESH MY MEMORY.
I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE HAVING ALL KINDS OF RELIABILITY AND SERVICE ISSUES WITH POLICE EVS PRIOR TO NOW, SO I KIND OF THOUGHT THIS WAS DEAD IN THE WATER.
UH, SO WHAT'S CHANGED, OR WHAT AM I NOT REMEMBERING CORRECTLY? YES, SIR.
UM, SO THE VEHICLES THAT, UH, YOU'RE REFERENCING ARE PLUGIN HYBRID VEHICLES.
UM, OR ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY SOME OF THEM THAT ARE NOT EVEN PLUGIN HYBRIDS, THEY'RE JUST YOUR, YOUR INITIAL, LIKE TOYOTA, UH, PRIUS.
UM, SO THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL BATTERY.
UM, THOSE ARE REALLY, THOSE BATTERIES WERE REALLY MEANT TO JUST HELP VEHICLES GET AN EXTRA LITTLE BIT OF A MILEAGE.
THEY WERE NOT MEANT TO, UM, REALLY HANDLE ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS CONSTANTLY DRAWING POWER DOWN.
AND SO THEY WERE SEEING A LOT OF ISSUES, UM, EVERY MORNING, UM, WHERE THE BATTERY WAS DEAD BECAUSE OVERNIGHT THEIR EQUIPMENT WAS DRAINING POWER, UM, FROM THE BATTERIES.
THESE ARE SMALL BATTERY PACKS THAT, THAT THEY'RE USING, THAT THEY HAD, UM, THE EVS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE FULL ELECTRIC, UH, VEHICLES THAT HAVE VASTLY MORE BATTERY STORAGE, UM, THAN THE, THE VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVE NOW.
IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY.
I THOUGHT THESE WERE LIKE FORD EXPLORER SUVS AND THEY WERE GETTING FLATBED DOWN TO THE VALLEY FOR REPAIRS AND SO FORTH.
WHAT AM I, I SEE AT LEAST YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO THAT DOESN'T JIVE WITH TOYOTA PRIUS.
LIKE, I'M, I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON WHAT SPEED I WAS REFERENCING THE YES.
I WAS REFERENCING THE, UH, TOYOTA PRIUS AS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY THAT VEHICLE WAS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF WE'RE GOING WITH FULL EV WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE PROBLEMS OF LIMITED DATA OR, UH, BATTERY PACK.
AND THERE ACTUALLY IS SUFFICIENT MAINTENANCE FACILITIES FOR SERVICING THAT'S NOT GONNA RESULT IN THESE THINGS BEING TRAILERED DOWN TO THE VALLEY.
SO THAT'S THE, THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT A PHASED APPROACH FOR IT.
'CAUSE IF WE TURNED AROUND AND SAID, TOMORROW WE WANT ALL 35 OR SO ELECTRIC, UH, POLICE VEHICLES, ELECTRIC, WE DON'T GET TO LEARN FROM ANY OF THE, THE HURDLES THAT WOULD BE COMING FROM THE, THE SITUATION FOR IT.
UH, MOST OF THE VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE GETTING SENT OFF, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A VEHICLE THAT IS IN PUBLIC WORKS OR POLICE IS GOING TO A DEALER FOR, UH, THOSE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR COSTS OUTSIDE OF LIKE STANDARD OIL CHANGES AND WHATNOT.
SO THAT'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE AND THE EV ITSELF.
UH, AND SO IT'S THE ASPECT OF LIKE, AS WE BRING THIS ON SLOWLY AS WE LEARN FROM IT AND CONTINUE TO ADAPT THOSE COMPONENTS WITH THE NOTION THAT IT'S STILL GOING TO END UP GOING TO A DEALERSHIP FOR REPAIR UNDER WARRANTY FOR RESPECTIVE COMPONENTS IF IT BRINGS UP.
BUT AS, UH, AS ANDY MENTIONED, THERE'S A REDUCTION IN THE MAINTENANCE COSTS.
THERE'S A REDUCTION IN, UH, THE OVERALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATING THAT VEHICLE.
SO, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT I, I'M JUST LOOKING TO KNOW WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
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THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN.UM, SO I THAT'S, HOLD ON, HOLD ON A SECOND, UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA ANSWER HIS QUESTION.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THAT'S IN THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, SHOWING EXAMPLES OF REAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITIONED THEIR FLEET.
UH, ONE OF THEM HAS COMPLETELY TRANSITIONED THEIR ENTIRE FLEET.
CAN, CAN I ADD KATHY, UH, KATHY, PETE AND ANDY, OR ANDY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? JUST TAGGING ON TO WHAT ZACH WAS SAYING THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE HISTORY THAT SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS HAVE SHARED ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THEY OUTRIGHT TALK ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN MAINTENANCE THAT THEY'VE SEEN IN THEIR FLEET, AND BOTH FROM COST AND, YOU KNOW, USE OF THEIR FLEET AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT HOW, HOW LARGE ARE THE CITIES? I'M GONNA GET TO MY QUESTION.
I WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL GO FIRST, BUT IT'S ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
THERE'S SMALL DEPARTMENTS, THERE'S LARGE DEPARTMENTS, UM, YEAH, NO, I, YOU CAN DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND FIND TONS OF INFORMATION ON.
WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, UH, COMING UP.
UM, SO ON, ON YOUR CURRENT PURSUIT APPROACH, START SMALL FOR Q2 TO FOUR EVS FOR PILOTING AND DATA COLLECTION.
THE, WE, IT'S NOT A LACK OF WILL.
I THINK THE WILL'S BEEN EXPRESSED, BUT A LACK OF WAY.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN IT'S COME UP THAT CERTAINLY FOR POLICE VEHICLES, BUT ALSO FOR THE MICRO TRANSIT THAT WE'RE THINKING THAT WE COULDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED IN TERMS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE POWER.
SO, SO TWO TO FOUR, YOU KNOW, IN THIS ONE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WHERE ARE WE IN, IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS? AND YOU, I YOU MAY ADDRESS THAT LATER, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET JUST AN OVERVIEW AT THE MOMENT OF WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE I HAVE A SENSE, AND I COULD BE WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME, BUT THAT WE'RE BEHIND SCHEDULE AS TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE IN PROCURING ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN ORDER TO MEET THE GOALS THAT WE HAD ALREADY STATED.
IS, IS THAT, THAT'S ACCURATE STATEMENT.
SO THE, THE GOAL TO TRANSITION THE ZERO ELECTRIC VEHICLES WAS BY 2030.
UH, AND SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PERCENTAGE WISE, YOU COULD SAY WE'RE BEHIND ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE FIVE AND A HALF YEARS TO TRANSITION ABOUT 75 PASSENGER VEHICLES, UH, TO ELECTRIC OR ZERO EMISSION EQUIVALENT VEHICLES.
BUT WE ONLY USUALLY REPLACE AROUND TWO POLICE VEHICLES A YEAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW PUBLIC WORKS GOES, BUT MICRO TRANSIT, WE'RE ONLY BRINGING ON, AND IT'S GONNA BE A TOTAL OF FIVE VEHICLES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA REPLACE THEM RIGHT AWAY.
SO, I I, IT IT, THIS ISN'T A CRITICISM, I SAID IT, THE WILL IS THERE.
IT'S, IT'S THE WAY, IT'S THE ACTUAL AVAILABILITY.
UM, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE'RE BEHIND WHERE WE SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF VEHICLE PROCUREMENT TOWARD THIS PARTICULAR GOAL IN THE OVERALL PLAN.
WE, WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES WITH THE, THE VEHICLE AVAILABILITY AND THE LIKE.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE A POTENTIAL TO EASE IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S ASPECT OF LIKE GETTING MORE PURCHASES OR MORE ORDERS IN, UH, AND TRYING TO SPEED UP THAT TIMELINE TO GET THE, TO MEET THAT GOAL.
SO I THINK IT'S ASPECT OF LIKE, ARE WE GONNA REACH IT NEXT YEAR? NO.
BUT IF WE HAVE THAT CHANCE TO BUILD IN THE MECHANISMS THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE PROCUREMENT OF IT, THEN WE'D LOOK TO PURSUE TO DO THAT.
UH, JUST THREE YEARS AGO, LIKE THIS, UH, THIS MIDDLE PICTURE HERE, THAT'S A 2024, UH, BLAZER PURSUIT RATED EV THAT DIDN'T EXIST.
UH, AND SO AS, AS THE MARKET HAS ADAPTED TO IT, I THINK THE AVAILABILITY OF THESE VEHICLES WILL GET, UH, WILL IMPROVE.
JUST STICKING WITH THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FOR MOMENT.
WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT ON THE, UM, SETTING THE TENTATIVE OF BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
IF WE WERE LOOKING AT INCREASING REPLACEMENT RATES TO MEET THE CAP, WE WOULD ALSO PROBABLY NEED TO BE INCREASING OUR BUDGET TO FUND THE REPLACEMENT OF, OF THOSE VEHICLES.
AND WE'RE TALKING LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE NEED TO FOCUS IN ON PARING DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND BEING A LITTLE TIGHTER.
SO I, I JUST, I JUST AM WORRIED THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO A, A, A PLACE WHERE WE'RE INCONGRUENT WITH OUR OWN OBJECTIVES.
UH, YEAH, THAT'S FULLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
UM, SO A SLIDE THAT WE HAVE, UH, COMING UP A LITTLE BIT LATER TALKS ABOUT, UH, CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT APPLICATION THAT WE HAD THAT IS, IT WAS ABOUT A $7 MILLION GRANT APPLICATION, UH, WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT TO ACTUALLY PROCURE THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES THEMSELVES.
I, I ALMOST WANNA ASK QUESTIONS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN FROM THE COUNCILOR KINSELLA, UH, YOUR FIVE YEAR PHASE IN APPROACH.
MY QUESTION STARTS WITH WHAT WOULD BE OUR CURRENT FLEET ROLLOVER TIME PERIOD? SO, UH, UH,
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BRYCE REFERENCED THE GREEN FLEET POLICY EARLIER, AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I THINK A COUPLE OF THE TRIGGERS FOR THAT ARE FIVE YEARS AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES IS WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE THE VEHICLE, LOOK AT LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE.AM I REMEMBERING THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT,
UM, SO WITH THOSE TRIGGERS, WE'RE BY POLICY SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE, THE FLEET VEHICLE ASSESS IT, DOES IT NEED TO BE RE REPLACED NOW? AND IF IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE, MAYBE WE LOOK AT ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT'S HAVING MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND, AND MOVE THAT ONE UP INSTEAD.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE GIST OF OUR POLICY.
I GET, I, THAT, THAT TOUCHES ON THE DIRECTION I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT HERE IS IF WE GET TO FIVE YEARS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES ON A VEHICLE, IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE.
DO WE KEEP IT AND SORT OF PLAY THAT OFF AGAINST THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD? HOW, WHAT'S THE FLEXIBILITY WE'RE DOING HERE? BECAUSE I IMAGINE THAT IN YOUR MATH SOMEWHERE IS A CALCULATION OF TURNING IN A CAR EARLY IS NOT THE MOST ENVIRONMENTAL THING TO DO EITHER.
SO WE, WE LOOKED AT, UM, KIND OF AN EVEN DISPERSAL EVERY FIF LIKE 15 CARS A YEAR KIND OF THING TO GET TO THAT, THAT, THAT MARK WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE, THE ROLL IN OF LIKE 5, 15, 25, 50 OR SO, LIKE AS LIKE, TO BUILD UP THAT CAPACITY.
UM, AND FROM THE, UH, THE GHG SIDE OF THINGS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY CLOSE TO, TO EACH OTHER ON THAT ASPECT OF IT.
UM, IT'S JUST AS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A VEHICLE THAT IS IN GREAT SHAPE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO KEEP INSTEAD, UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IN THE, OR THE BUDGET, UM, THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS THAT, UH, IF THAT EMISSION SOURCE IS STILL THERE, THEN WE HAVE TO EITHER LOOK AT DIRECT AIR CAPTURE OR CARBON OFFSET TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT MECHANISM AS TO REACH THAT OVERALL LIKE CARBON NEUTRAL GOAL THAT WE HAD FOR THE CITY.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS MY, THE POINT I'M, I'M GETTING TO, AND I THINK YOU'RE ANSWERING IT IN A WAY, BUT A FIVE YEAR APPROACH IS GREAT.
IT'S A GREAT GOAL, BUT I, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S FLEXIBILITY HERE TO ACTUALLY DO THE OVERALL RIGHT THING THAT'S NOT JUST GREENHOUSE, BUT IT'S FISCAL, ALL THE REST OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, IF I MAY, LIKE YOU SAID IN OUR ANALYSIS, UM, WE'RE SEEING SAVINGS, UM, OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD.
UM, SO I MEAN, JUST FROM THE COST ANALYSIS, I MEAN, YOU, YOU ARE SAVING MONEY.
UH, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, UM, WITH THIS TRANSITION.
UH, ALLOW ME, UM, SO THIS IS A REAL TOUCHY TOPIC FOR ME, AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT ANDY KNOWS THIS BECAUSE OF POLICE VEHICLES.
I FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT AND IT'S SET UP BECAUSE THIS IS OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I'M LOOKING AT THESE CITIES HERE.
THESE ARE ALL LARGER CITIES THAN WE ARE.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR REPAIR CENTERS HERE.
I WAS HOPING THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME AND WE BUILD THE TRANSIT SYSTEM DOWN TO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THAT POSSIBLY WE CAN HAVE A VEHICLE, CAR MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
AND THAT'S, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW FAR OUT THAT IS.
WE TALK ABOUT, UH, FIVE YEARS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES.
ARE WE GETTING 20,000 MILES OUT OF OUR POLICE CARS PER YEAR NOW? I THINK THEY'RE DOING A LOT MORE THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEARS.
UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE I HAVEN'T ASKED THAT QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, THE LAST CITY MATTER IN A WHILE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR MILES ON ANDY LOOKS LIKE THIS.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE LOOK AT BOTH CRITERIA.
SO WE DON'T ONLY LOOK AT, IS IT FIVE YEARS OLD OR ONLY IS IT A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES? BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY ARE TRIGGERS TO LOOK AT THE VEHICLE AND ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT DOES THAT, DO WE? WE DO, YES.
WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S ON STAFF THAT CHECKS TO MAKE EACH DEPARTMENT, EACH DEPARTMENT CHECKS THEIR VEHICLE FLEET AGAINST THE GREEN FLEET POLICY EACH YEAR AS WE DO OUR BUDGETING TO LOOK AT WHAT VEHICLES IN THEIR FLEET NEED TO BE PROPOSED FOR REPLACEMENT.
SO WE, EACH DEPARTMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FOR, FOR THE POLICE FLEET, DO WE? AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY UNTIL WE BUILD A MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
WHERE IS OUR CLOSEST, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO TELL ME THE NAME, BUT IT'S, DO WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY IN OUR CITY OR IN THE VERDE VALLEY THAT CAN MAKE, MAINTAIN THESE? SO STEPPING BACK SOME OF, SOME OF THE, NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CITIES, I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS, THAT WE RESEARCHED AND FOUND, HAS A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF ELECTRIFICATION.
NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE LISTED HERE, BUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE RESEARCHED ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN SEDONA.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE POINT TO THE, THE POINT ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
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LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FULLY ELECTRIC, AND YOU LOOK AT THESE CASE STUDIES OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS OF TRANSITIONING THEIR FLEET, THEY SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE MAINTENANCE NEEDED ON THEIR VEHICLES.AND SOME OF THE MANUFACTURERS HAVE MOBILE MECHANICS AVAILABLE AS WELL.
I WOULD THROW THAT OUT AS AN ADDITIONAL, RIGHT.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FACT IN SEDONA.
ANNETTE, YOU, YOU, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY MAYOR.
UM, I TEXTED CHIEF FOLEY AND SHE'S ON HER WAY OVER TO HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OH, THANK YOU.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY, DO WE? SO THERE, THERE'S NOT, UM, I MEAN, THERE ARE MAINTENANCE FACILITIES FOR DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS OUT THERE, AND WE'VE UTILIZED THEIR MAINTENANCE FACILITIES FOR OUR FLEET.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN MAINTENANCE FACILITY BUILT YET.
THAT IS IN THE PLANS? NO, A LOCAL MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR OUR POLICE CARS IN THE VERDE VALLEY.
SO IF THERE'S A ELECTRIC, AN EV UH, ISSUE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT TO AN EV MECHANIC.
WE WOULD DO WE HAVE ONE? NO, GRANTED, LIKE YOU SAID, THE INSTANCES WOULD BE A LOT LESS.
BUT THEY STILL HAVE MECHANICAL ISSUES AND YOU ALSO HAVE SUSPENSION STEERING OTHER TRUE MECHANICAL ISSUES THAT CAN GO TO, I GUESS, ANOTHER MECHANIC IN TOWN.
I, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE UNTIL WE HAVE, JUST FOR ME, UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE VERDE VALUE, WE CAN TAKE IT IN TO A LOCAL SERVICE CENTER UNTIL WE HAVE THAT OPTION.
I'M, I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT THE IDEA THAT SEDONA, IF WE PURCHASED ELECTRIC VEHICLES INTO OUR POLICE FLEET, WE WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST CITY THAT HAS DONE SO, NOT THE CI FIRST CITY OF SEDONA SIZE, NOR THE FIRST RURAL CI CITY TO DO SO.
THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY BEHIND THE CURVE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT DO THOSE CITIES WHO ARE AHEAD OF THE CURVE, DO THEY HAVE A, AN EV MECHANIC IN THEIR CITY OR WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES? 'CAUSE WE DON'T, FOR SOME OF THESE CITIES THAT, THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THAT I, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT AS A FACT WHETHER THEY DO OR NOT, BUT I'D BE EXTREMELY SURPRISED IF THEY'RE SMALLER THAN SEDONA THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN MECHANICS ON STAFF.
UH, MR. MAYOR, IF I CAN, UH, THE CITY OF TRAVELERS REST IS SMALLER THAN US, AND THEY'RE ALSO TRANSITIONING THEIR POLICE FLEET OVER TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
UM, AND THEY ARE RURAL TOWN THAT ALSO HAS TO TRANSFER WHENEVER THE, UH, ISSUE ARISES FOR MAINTENANCE, WHICH THEY SAID IS EXTREMELY INFREQUENT.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE TO TRAVEL PRETTY FAR, AND THEY'RE FOR MAINTENANCE, AND THEY'RE STILL SEEING MASSIVE SAVINGS.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAVINGS.
I, I GET THE MONETARY SAVINGS.
I'M QUESTIONING THE RESPONSES OF OUR POLICE.
AND IF A VEHICLE GOES DOWN, IF WE DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA VEHICLE FOR THEM, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, SOMETHING'S GONNA HINDER THE RESPONSE OF OUR OFFICERS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
PETE, ONE, JUST A POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR, YOU KNOW, JUST REFERENCE YOUR WARNING ABOUT YEAH, I KNOW WE'RE ON SLIDE SEVEN.
BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHERE, WHY I'M UNCOMFORTABLE IS EMERGENCY SERVICES.
I COULD, I POINT OUT, MAYOR, THAT EVEN WITH A COMPLETE FLEET OF INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE VEHICLES, IF A, IF A VEHICLE GOES DOWN FROM YOUR PATROL PORTION OF YOUR D OF YOUR FLEET, YOU NEED ANOTHER VEHICLE TO BACK UP THAT VEHICLE.
IT'S THE SAME SITUATION, BUT WE COULD TAKE THAT COMBUSTION ENGINE AND SEND IT TO FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE IN THE CITY IF NEED BE, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT UNDER THE ELECTRIC.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TIRES, MAYBE NO.
WHY WE HAVE, I, I DON'T WANNA GO DIG THAT DEEP.
WE DO WANNA KEEP IT UNDER BEFORE FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHY I'M UNCOMFORTABLE IS THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE VICE MAYOR.
I JUST WAS GONNA SAY THAT THERE ARE IN THE VERDE VALLEY AND COTTONWOOD, AS AN EXAMPLE, A FORD DEALERSHIP THAT SELLS ELECTRIC CARS AND SERVICES, ELECTRIC CARS.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN OUR, WE HAD FOUR, AND THE CHIEF, MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS, UH, LAST YEAR WAS IT THREE OR FOUR OF THE EXPLORERS WENT DOWN AND HAD TO BE TAKEN TO, UH, PHOENIX BECAUSE THE FORD DEALERSHIP HERE IN COTTONWOOD COULDN'T HANDLE IT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS A HYBRID VEHICLE.
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GONNA HAVE THE SAME SITUATION WITH A FULLY ELECTRIC.AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE SOMEDAY.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE THERE NOW, THE PROPOSAL THAT, THAT OUR STAFF HAS HAVE PUT OUT THERE IS TO NOT FULLY TRANSITION THE FLEET.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.
UH, BRIAN, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON TECHNOLOGY.
SO THIS IS ALL EV WHAT ABOUT HYDROGEN FUEL CELL AND IS THAT STILL AHEAD OF ITS TIME? OR WHERE DOES THAT PLAY A PART IN THE FUTURE FOR, UH, GETTING RID OF, UH, INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES? YEAH, SO THE, UH, HYDROGEN FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN, UH, FROM WHERE I'VE SEEN MOST OF IT GOING IS FOR KIND OF LIKE THE BIG HEAVY DUTY, UH, VEHICLES.
I'LL BACKTRACK A COUPLE SLIDES HERE.
SO THIS, UH, THIS PICTURE IN THE UPPER RIGHT, UM, THIS IS A COMPANY CALLED NIKOLA.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTING IN THIS ONE WAS AN ELECTRIC POWERED, UM, SEMI, BUT THEY ALSO JUST BUILT A PLANT THAT IS POWERING, UH, HYDROGEN POWER, UH, VEHICLES AS WELL.
I'D SAY IT'S, UH, IT'S KIND OF IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IT, MOST OF THE FOCUS HAS BEEN TOWARDS BATTERY ELECTRIC, UH, WITH HYDROGEN KIND OF LIKE FLOATING AROUND ON, ON THE, UH, RY, UH, WITH THE MAIN FOCUS BEING GOING TOWARDS HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES.
'CAUSE UH, THE POWER SYSTEM FOR THOSE IS, UH, TO PUT A BATTERY PACK ON THE HEAVY DUTIES OR, UH, MAKES IT EVEN HEAVIER THAN YOU WOULD WANT.
SO THE HYDROGEN SYSTEMS ARE A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER.
SO MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN DIRECTED TOWARDS THE HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES, UH, NOT SO MUCH IN THE PASSENGER VEHICLE PHASE, AND REFUELING IS FASTER WITH HYDROGEN.
BUT THE ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, WITH GAPS IN CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, IF WE DID HYDROGEN FUEL CELL, WE'D PRETTY MUCH BE PUTTING OURSELVES IN AN ISLAND.
THERE'S NO REAL MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE STATE OR IN THE REGION THAT, UH, IT WAS, WOULD BE ABLE TO REFUEL THAT.
UM, SO THE STATE IS THE STATE, UM, AND THE REGION IS GOING, UH, WITH BATTERY, UM, BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR, FOR THE TIME BEING.
I'M GONNA CHANGE THE TOPIC SORT OF AGAIN.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, TO ADDRESS COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON'S QUESTION ON HOW MANY CHARGEPOINT FINDER SAYS WE HAVE 22 PUBLIC FACING CHARGERS IN SEDONA THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT ANY OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE VILLAGE.
SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW HERE THAT ARE PUBLIC FACING THAT, BY THE WAY, INCLUDED OURS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THEY SHOW UP IN THE LIST.
UM, MY QUESTION IS ON THE CHARGING, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, POLICE VEHICLE DEDICATED CHARGING.
SO WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE TALKING ABOUT THE GARAGE AND WE TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF CHARGERS, WE HAVE A POLICE SUBSTATION GOING IN, ARE YOU ALSO THEN CONSIDERING THAT ONE OR MORE OF THOSE THAT WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING WOULD BE DEDICATED AND NOT ACTUALLY PUBLIC FACING? OR ARE YOU THINKING THAT, UM, WE CAN EXPAND TO 10 TO USE YOUR WORDS, THAT SOME OF THAT EXPANSION IS GOING TO BE FOR DEDICATED POLICE VEHICLE CHARGING AND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT NOW AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE GARAGE AND ELECTRIFY AMERICA AND OUR CONTRACT WITH ELECTRIFY AMERICA, BECAUSE THAT IS PRETTY OLD CONTRACT ALREADY,
UM, SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING? I I REALIZE THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER PLACES YOU COULD PUT IT, BUT I ALSO THINK WAS WONDERING IF YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU IS IN THIS CASE, ALSO THINKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT CITY OWNED PROPERTIES LIKE SHELBY THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT, WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A CHARGER SHOULD GO IN THERE AS WELL.
I MIGHT START OFF WITH ONE RESPONSE TO THAT ONE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH, UH, DECARBONIZATION AND LOOKING AT OUR MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES IS THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A LEVEL THREE CHARGER FOR ALL OF OUR CHARGING SITUATIONS.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PULLED IN SOMEWHERE, LIKE AT A POLICE SUBSTATION, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE, THE CHEAPER OPTION OF A LEVEL TWO WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME MEANINGFUL CHARGE, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE WITH REALLY EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET YOU THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MORE OF THE KIND OF REALISTIC, ONGOING, LONG-TERM KIND OF CHARGING THAT GETS YOU REALLY WHAT YOU NEED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE ASLEEP AT NIGHT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
YOU HAVE LONG PERIODS TO CHARGE.
SO, AND, UH, AS, AS MENTIONED ON THE PART OF THE DECARBONIZATION ROADMAPS, TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE WE COULD PUT A DEDICATED DC FS SPECIFICALLY FOR, FOR POLICE, UH, CHARGING COMPONENTS DUE TO THAT NATURE OF UPTIME AND THE, THE NEEDS FOR QUICK CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT, UH, FOR THE ELECTRIFY AMERICA PIECE, UH, MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD WANT IT TO BE MORE, UH, MUNICIPAL FACING OR NOT MUNICIPAL COMMUNITY FACING, UH, CHARGING JUST SINCE, UH, THEY'RE PROVIDING THE CHARGING AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO US AT NO COST.
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TO RECOUP AS MUCH AS THAT PROBABLY AS THEY CAN FROM THAT.UH, BUT TO, UH, THE ASPECT OF WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD HAVE ON A FUTURE INSTALLATION OR EXPANSION OF THAT CHARGER, IF WE COULD HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, I WOULDN'T RULE IT OUT, BUT THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT A MORE COMMUNITY FACING, UH, CHARGING STATUS FOR THEIR CHARGES.
MY, I GUESS MY SUBPOINT, UM, WAS, I HEARD ZACH SAY EARLIER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE, UM, COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WHEN BUILDING OR PUTTING IN CHARGING SYSTEMS, YOU WANNA DO IT DURING THE EARLY PHASES OF A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE EITHER OCCURRING ON CITY OWNED LAND OR MUNICIPAL LAND? UM, AND IF YOU'RE NOT, ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING THAT SOON? ALLERGIES ARE KICKING UP TODAY.
UM, YEAH, SO THAT ASPECT OF LIKE, UH, OF IDENTIFYING THOSE LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR CURRENT BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FUTURE, UH, BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S A COMPONENT THAT WE WOULD BE COLLABORATING WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS ON FOR SURE.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA BE PASSING IT OFF TO, UH, BRYCE TO COVER THE COMMUNITY GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES.
ARE WE DONE WITH THE POLICE CARS IN GENERAL? UH, THAT IS EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, UH, AS AN OVERVIEW FOR, UM, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF, I, I DO.
I BE, BECAUSE I APPRECIATE HER INPUT.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW PD FEELS ABOUT THE, THE CHANGEOVER IF THEY FEEL THAT, UH, OTHER THAN THE EXPLORERS, IF THE OTHER CARS AND OTHER MODELS AND OTHER OTHER AVAILABILITY, UH, THOSE VEHICLES ARE ACCEPTABLE TO, UH, THE PROGRAM, UH, AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT, I MEAN, THEY HOLD A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT ON THE INTERIOR OF THE CABIN.
DOES SHE FEEL THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATE? CHIEF, CAN YOU ELABORATE QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT UNDER ANOTHER HOUR AND 35 MINUTES? UM, YES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNSELORS.
I, I TOO AM STILL RECUPERATING FROM LAST NIGHT'S LATE NIGHT, SO YES, THAT SEEMS FAIR.
UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE, THE FLEET AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR APPROACH THAT WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT IS STARTING OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, TWO VEHICLES.
ONE FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE AND ONE FOR PATROL TO REALLY WORK OUT ANY OF THE KINKS THAT MIGHT EXIST.
BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT INTO THE HYBRID, UM, AND WE REALLY WENT FULL THROTTLE INTO THAT AND, AND WE SAW SOME CHALLENGES, WE REALLY WANT TO START, UM, WITH TWO CARS, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY GO WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT THAT TAKES WAY LESS EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO THOSE CARS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FEW LIGHTS, A RADIO, UM, AND A AND A FLASHLIGHT.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT PULLS POWER FROM THAT.
THEN WE'RE GONNA USE ONE PATROL VEHICLE AND, AND START OFF TESTING WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR TWO THAT WE CAN DO, UM, A GOOD TEST ON.
THAT'LL ALSO LET US LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE SIDE AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS BEFORE WE JUST GO, UM, FULL ON IN AND, AND WE, WE START EXPERIENCING SOME PROBLEMS. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO, I THINK IT WAS PASADENA, RIGHT? THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITH AND, AND COMMUNICATING WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT'S THEIR DISTANCE FROM AND TO WORK AND HOME.
HOW DOES IT WORK FOR CHARGING STATIONS AT HOME REIMBURSEMENT? THERE'S A LOT TO STILL WORK OUT THAT, UM, WE'RE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH SO THAT I CAN PUT ALL OF MY CONCERNS UPFRONT AND REALLY HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT BEFORE WE START EVEN ACTUALLY MAKING THE FIRST PURCHASE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, UH, I I THINK PASADENA'S JUST GOING THROUGH BUDGET PHASE RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, SUPER RESPONSIVE THE LAST MONTH, BUT, UM, THEY'VE MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED AND INTERESTED TO WORK WITH US, AND THEY'RE EVEN INTERESTED IN BRINGING OUT, UH, POTENTIALLY ONE OF THEIR EV VEHICLES FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT MODEL AND MAKE.
UM, SO THEY'VE GONE, UH, WITH TESLA, UM, FOR ALL OF THEIR VEHICLES.
AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS WHO UPFITS IT BECAUSE, RIGHT.
SOME OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'LL PURCHASE A VEHICLE FROM ONE LOCATION, THEN IT HAS TO GO OVER TO AN UPFITTER, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME TO GET THE VEHICLE FIXED, THEN WE GET PEOPLE POINTING FINGERS AT WHOEVER TOUCHED THE CAR LAST.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO WORKING TOWARDS IS WHERE WE BUY THE VEHICLE WHERE IT GETS OUTFITTED, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT BE THE SAME, UM, OR ELSE WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE, THE THINGS THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BECOME CHALLENGING IN, IN SOME OF OUR CURRENT VEHICLES.
SOME OF MY CONTACTS BACK EAST SAID ONE VEHICLE WITH THE CAGE, WITH THE PUSH BAR, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED, ONE CAR COULD BE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING OUR BUDGET DOWN.
AND I UNDER, I'M NOT KNOCKING THE, THE PROGRAM, I'M JUST SAYING FOR A POLICE CAR THAT I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE AGAIN, FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE VEHICLE ITSELF.
THE SAFETY OF OUR OFFICERS BEING ABLE TO RESPOND AND HAVE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT IN THOSE CARS IN THE, THE, THE PASSENGER CABIN, A TESLA VERSUS
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EXPLORER.NOW THERE'S PEOPLE ON THE DAY HERE, THEY HAVE TESLAS, THEY LOVE THEM, BUT DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE EQUIPMENT IN THE TRUNK? WELL, IS THERE A TRUNK IN? WHAT DO YOU DO? THEY CALL IT A TRUNK.
IN, IN THE BACK FRONT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A TRUNK AND A TRUNK.
WELL, A FRONT, RIGHT? BUT IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM FOR A POLICE CAR AND ALL THAT KIND? THAT'S JUST SOME OF MY CONCERNS.
I JUST WANTED YOUR OPINION CHIEF.
I I VALUE THAT, THAT YEAH, THANK YOU.
WE ARE, WE ARE IN CONSTANT CONTACT AND I PRETTY MUCH GIVE HIM MY LIST OF ANY AND ALL CONCERNS I HAVE.
'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT IRONED OUT BEFOREHAND, I'M SURE.
WE'RE NOT, UH, TRYING TO PUSH, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE, UM, WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS.
UH, I WAS AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN FOR SIX YEARS AND THERE YOU GO.
I KNOW ABOUT, UH, THE NEED TO, UH, YOU HAVE ALL THESE, UH, SPECIAL, UH, UH, NEEDS AND CONSIDERATIONS.
YOU HAVE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC 24 7 WITHOUT QUESTION.
UM, SO WE ARE, LIKE THE CHIEF SAID, WE'RE WORKING, UH, AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE, UM, TO, UH, ANSWER ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS, UH, AND HOPEFULLY SURPASS ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL THESE, UH, DIFFERENT CITIES, ESPECIALLY SOUTH PASADENA.
UM, AND WE'VE, EVEN, SPEAKING OF UPFIT, UM, I BROUGHT A COMPANY THAT DOES SPECIFICALLY THIS IS ALL THEY DO IS POLICE, TESLA UPFITS.
THEY CAN ACQUIRE VEHICLES EXTREMELY QUICKLY COMPARED TO, UM, OTHER METHODS.
UH, THEY MAKE SURE THEIR UPFITTING TECHNOLOGY IS STREAMLINED, UM, AND THEY MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THE UPFITS, UH, UNTIL THE TESLA CAN GO OFF ROAD LIKE SOME OF THE EXPLORERS CAN.
AGAIN, I'M JUST POLICE VEHICLES.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMUNITY, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT, UH, AS QUICK AS IT CAN IN LIGHT OF TIME.
UH, BUT, UH, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE, UH, DON'T HAVE MUNICIPAL INVENTORY SLIDES IN THIS, UH, THAT'S BEEN PULLED OUT SO THAT WE'LL PAIR IT WITH A DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP PIECE THAT WILL, UH, BE COMING BACK FOR COUNCIL HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UH, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA COVER, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY, UH, EMISSIONS ESTIMATES.
SO FOR 2023, UH, WE HAVE OUR, UH, COMMUNITY EMISSIONS ESTIMATE AT 150,163 METRIC TONS.
UH, GENERALLY GET BUCKET IN, UH, YOU CAN, YOU'LL SEE 'EM LIKE SCOPE ONE, TWOS AND THREES.
UH, SO THAT'S THE, UH, PIE CHART ON THE RIGHT IS, UH, BUCKETING 'EM INTO THOSE VARIOUS SCOPES.
THE SCOPE ONE IS GENERALLY YOUR LIKE, UH, SO THAT'S YOUR GHG EMISSIONS FROM SOURCES LOCATED WITHIN CITY BOUNDARIES.
SO THAT'S, UH, LIKE YOUR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, YOUR NATURAL NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION AND THE LIKE.
SCOPE TWO IS, UH, DIRECT, UH, GRID SUPPLIED ELECTRICITY WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THEN SCOPE THREES ARE LIKE ALL OTHER EMISSIONS, UH, INCLUDING LIKE WASTE, UM, WASTE GENERATION AND CON COMPONENTS OF, UH, KIND OF THE, UH, MANUALS OF WASTE THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.
AND THEN SOME WATER DELIVERY, UH, SYSTEMS. AND SO, UH, IF TO BREAK IT OUT BY DISTINCT CATEGORIES, UH, FOR 2023, THESE, UH, OVERALL, UH, PIE SLICES ARE RELATIVELY THE SAME TO THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
UH, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST KEEP THROWING A BUNCH OF PIE CHARTS AT YOU.
BUT, UH, ON-ROAD TRAVEL WAS ABOUT 23% OF THE, UH, EMISSIONS FOR 2023.
UH, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY ARE THE NEXT TWO SLICES.
UH, NATURAL GAS FROM RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USE WAS NEXT 24% IN THESE 14 AND 10 SLICES.
UH, TOURISM AND SOLID WASTE, UH, ESTIMATED ABOUT 10%.
UH, AND THEN AVIATION WATER DELIVERY.
AND THEN THERE'S A FEW OTHER ONES THAT ARE RIGHT AT KIND OF LIKE 1.0 SOMETHING PERCENT.
THEY'RE ALL KIND OF TACKED, UH, WITHIN THOSE RESPECTIVE AREAS.
PETE, BRYCE, THANK YOU FOR THAT SLIDE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THERE WAS ONE BREAKOUT OF TOURISM ON SOLID WASTE, BUT NOT ON THESE OTHER ME MEASURES FOR, FOR LIKE, WHY IT'S ON ROAD TRAVEL.
I I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S A MIX OF OUR VISITORS, PLUS OUR RESIDENTS.
YEAH, SO THE, THE ON-ROAD TRAVEL IS BASED OFF OF, UH, AN ADOT DATABASE THAT IS, UM, TRACKING AVERAGE ANNUAL DAILY TRAFFIC THAT IS THEN CONVERTED TO, UH, A VMT NUMBER.
BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO SEPARATE WHAT WAS TOURISM VERSUS WHAT WAS RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THOSE NUMBERS.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD SEEM THAT THERE'S RIGHT, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A MUCH MORE DIRECT INFLUENCE ON OUR RESIDENTS AND WE CAN ON OUR VISITORS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME ESTIMATES HERE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LEVERS ARE THAT WE CAN MORE EASILY GET TO.
YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, UM, IT'S JUST AN ASPECT OF WHAT DATABASE IS AVAILABLE FOR US TO MAKE THOSE, THOSE ESTIMATIONS.
MAJORITY OF THE, THE ON-ROAD TRAVEL IS GONNA BE FROM TOURISM.
UH, BUT IT'S AN ASPECT OF, UH, HOW WE IMPROVE ON OUR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THE LIKE FOR THAT, THOSE COMPONENTS.
KATHY, COULD YOU DEFINE FOR ME RES, I'M SORRY.
TOURISM SOLID WASTE MORE SPECIFICALLY.
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SO BOTH OF THOSE, UH, BOTH THE SOLID WASTE CATEGORIES ARE PRETTY BROAD ESTIMATES AT THE MOMENT, AND THEY'VE BEEN THAT WAY FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.'CAUSE IT'S REALLY RELIANT ON US GETTING, UH, ADEQUATE, UH, DATA FROM THE WASTE HAULERS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT NUMBER OUT FURTHER.
SO THE TOURISM AND SOLID WASTE NUMBERS ARE AN ESTIMATION ON, UH, HOW MANY TOURISTS WE HAVE IN THE AREA VERSUS HOW MANY RESIDENTS.
AND THEN UTILIZING A, UH, IT'S 4.9 POUNDS OF MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE PER PERSON PER DAY.
AND THEN APPLYING THAT TO BOTH NUMBERS TO GIVE US THE BROAD ESTIMATES.
I, I GUESS WE'RE, I GUESS WE'RE, UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT, IS TOURISM SOLID WASTE VERSUS COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE? 'CAUSE THE SOLID WASTE THAT YOU'RE ATTRIBUTING TO TOURISTS IS LIKE RESTAURANT REFUSE.
AND I MEAN, HOW IS, I JUST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE PUTTING THIS AS TOURISTS VERSUS YEAH.
SO AS I MENTIONED, I MEAN, IT'S A BROAD ESTIMATE THAT DISTINCTLY JUST TAKES A EPA PROVIDED 4.9 POUNDS PER PERSON PER DAY, AND APPLYING THAT TO THE RESIDENT POPULATION AND THE TOURISM POPULATION.
WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUT THE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR WASTE HAULERS TO PROVIDE DIRECTLY WHAT THAT WASTE DATA IS.
IT'S JUST AN ONGOING PROCESS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT OUT.
HOW, HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT AS TO WHO THE RESIDENT WHO THE TOURIST, THAT'S MY POINT.
I, UM, I MEAN, THAT'S A FINITE NUMBER.
SO THE US CENSUS DATA, 5 MILLION PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT EXACT.
I, I, I'M, SO AS, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A, IT'S A BROAD ESTIMATE.
SO IT GOES OFF OF THE US CENSUS DATA FOR THE POPULATION OF SEDONA.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING OFF OF A BROAD ESTIMATE FOR RE THE TOURIST VISITATION, UH, WITHIN THE AREA.
SO THE, THE, THE SOLID WASTE NUM ESTIMATION IS A BROAD ESTIMATE, AND IT'S BASED OFF THE DATA THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE 2018.
I DON'T IF WE ACTUALLY, HOW MUCH WOULD THE ON-ROAD TRAVEL BE EXPECTED TO DECREASE, UM, THROUGH, UM, PUBLIC TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION? UH, SO I HAVE A, A SLIDE COMING UP THAT, UH, BASED OFF OF THE FOUR, THE FOUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD RUNNING FOR 2023, WE ESTIMATED, UH, THAT IF THEY WERE BEING, THE AVERAGE TRIP DISTANCE WAS BEING TRAVELED BY RECREATION VEHICLES INSTEAD, IT WAS ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, UH, MILES.
UH, AND SO IMPROVING ON THOSE COMPONENTS OF PUBLIC TRANSIT, GET MORE PEOPLE OFF THE ROADWAY, UH, I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ESTIMATE ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, BY 2030 OR WHATNOT, BUT THE PUBLIC TRANSIT HAS HAD A, HAS HAD A VERY POSITIVE IMPACT, UH, ESTIMATIONS.
WHEN YOU USE THE EPA ESTIMATES, ARE THOSE FOR TOURIST TOWN OR IS THAT JUST FOR GENERAL POPULATION? THEY, THAT SPECIFIC? IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST FOR GENERAL POPULATION.
UH, FINDING, UH, WASTE DATA THAT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WAS, UH, THOSE PEER REVIEWED, STUDIED AND WHATNOT SPECIFIC TO MORE OF A, A TOURIST DESTINATION.
UH, I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY OF THAT I'VE BEEN COMFORTABLE WITH.
SO I DEFAULTED TO THE EPA, UH, COMPONENTS.
AND IS THAT BASED ON A NATIONAL AVERAGE? IT COULD VARY WIDELY BETWEEN STATES? YES.
IT'S A, IT'S A NATIONAL AVERAGE.
UH, THAT'S WHY IT'S A, IT'S A VERY BROAD ESTIMATE, UH, WITHIN THAT.
UH, SO, UH, BREAKING THOSE OUT, UH, BY RESPECTIVE, UH, CATEGORIES IN DIFFERENT MANNER HERE.
UH, THE DARK, UH, KIND OF MAROON RED COLOR IS THE, UH, BASELINE YEAR.
UH, THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, AT THE START OF THE, THE NUMBERS HERE FOR THE ORANGE, UH, ARE THE, UH, 2023, UH, ESTIMATES AND THE PERCENTAGES BASED OFF OF, UH, WHAT IT IS IN RELATION TO THE BASELINE YEAR.
UH, SO ON-ROAD TRAVEL IS ABOUT 4% LOWER THAN, UH, THE 2018 BASELINE YEAR RESIDENTIAL, UH, AND RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY IS ABOUT 13% LOWER.
WE HAVE A SLIGHT UPTICK, UH, IN THE OVERALL USAGE OF ELECTRICITY, UH, THAT KIND OF, UH, UH, COUNTERED, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE EG GRADE EMISSION FACTORS.
UH, COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY IS DOWN ABOUT 29% COMPARED TO, UH, ITS BASELINE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL NATURAL GAS.
UH, WERE BOTH UP 25% AND 11% RESPECTIVELY.
UH, MOST OF THAT IN ATTRIBUTING TO THE, UH, VERY COLD WINTER THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, UM, FROM JANUARY TO MARCH TIMEFRAME WHERE, UH, WE ARE UTILIZING MORE NATURAL GAS TO KEEP EVERYTHING, KEEP EVERYTHING RUNNING, UH, THE TOURISM.
AND SO, UH, RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE NUMBERS, AS I MENTIONED, ARE, UH, THAT'S RELATIVELY STEADY, BUT IT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY A VERY BROAD SM AS WE'VE UH, DISCUSSED.
UH, AVIATION IS ABOUT 41%, UH, HIGHER THAN IT WAS FOR THE BASELINE YEAR.
UH, WATER DELIVERY, UH, IS ABOUT 9% LOWER, UH, THAN IT WAS FOR BASELINE, UH, AND THE LIKE, SO KIND OF A FLUCTUATION OVER, UH, THOSE COMPONENTS.
UH, MAINLY THE DRIVERS THAT WE SAW WITHIN RESIDENTIAL
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ELECTRICITY, UH, FOR LAST YEAR WAS ALSO AN INCREASE AROUND THE SAME TIME FOR THE SUMMER WHERE PHOENIX WAS GOING, THOSE, GOING THROUGH THOSE 32 STRAIGHT DAYS OF 110, THAT HEAT WAVE, UH, HELPED THE, UH, WAS DRIVING AN INCREASED ELECTRICITY USAGE ACROSS, UH, THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE LIKE, AND THEN THROW IN, UH, AN EXTREME WINTER.UH, AND THEN WE HAVE INCREASED NATURAL GAS USAGE THAT DROVE UP, UH, THOSE EMISSION SOURCES.
SO, UH, CUMULATIVELY, UH, ACROSS THE, THE YEARS CALCULATED, WE HAD, UH, 162,000, UH, 7 33 FOR, UH, THE, UH, 2018 BASELINE.
UH, AND THEN THE, UH, ESTIMATION IS ABOUT 8% DOWN, UM, FROM THAT BASELINE, UH, TO 150,163.
UH, SO IT KIND OF FLUCTUATES A LITTLE BIT.
OBVIOUSLY WE SEE THE, THE DIP YEAH.
THERE IN 2020, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF A SPIKE IN 2021 AS EVERYTHING KIND OF RAMPS UP BEHIND THAT.
UH, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF DECREASING, UH, COMING BEHIND THOSE NUMBERS.
UH, BRIAN, BEFORE YOU GO, JESS, JESSICA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I DID, BUT BRIAN CAN GO FIRST.
ALRIGHT, BRYCE, PER OUR EMAIL, THIS IS, THIS IS THE TIME.
SO, SO WE'RE DOWN 8% FROM THE BASELINE ON A 50% REDUCTION GOAL.
HALF THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR HOW TO GET, THERE WAS A PLUG THAT WE HOPED SOMEBODY WOULD COME UP WITH AN ANSWER TO.
WHERE ARE WE, WHAT, WHAT IS REALISTIC SITTING HERE AT MID 2024 ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT 50% REDUCTION OR NOT.
UH, SO THE ASPECT OF WHETHER OR NOT WE GET TO THAT REDUCTION, I MEAN, THAT, THAT GOAL IS A, A SCIENCE BASED TARGET THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, TO MEET, UH, THE, THE ACTION OF CLIMATE TO MEET CLIMATE ACTION NEEDS FOR THE AREA.
UH, SO THE, THE, THE CHANCE OF IT, I MEAN, WE'RE DOWN 8% IN THE LAST FEW YEARS OR WHATNOT.
SO IF WE CONTINUE THAT TRAJECTORY, UH, WE DON'T REACH THAT 50% MARK.
UH, BUT THE ASPECT I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, UH, I BELIEVE EMISSIONS WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.
'CAUSE EVEN IN 2018, THE EMISSION FACTOR FOR THE ELECTRIC GRID WAS OVER A THOUSAND, UH, POUNDS PER MEGAWATT HOUR.
AND IT'S DOWN TO 779, I THINK IT WAS, UH, FOR THIS LAST YEAR.
SO THERE'S LIKE A 24% IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THE ELECTRICAL GRID IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
UH, BUT THAT ASPECT OF LIKE THAT GOAL IS A, UH, A VERY STRONG GOAL, UH, TO GET TO.
UH, SO THE ASPECT I THINK MOST MUNICIPALITIES ARE FACING ACROSS, UH, THE COUNTRY IS IT'S DIFFICULT TO LY MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
UH, SO THAT ASPECT FOR MOST, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, I, I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL KIND OF A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
UH, BUT I WOULDN'T REALLY ADVISE MOVING THE GOAL OR ADJUSTING THE GOAL BECAUSE THAT GOAL IS NEEDED.
UH, IF ANYTHING, UH, EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS ACROSS SECTORS NEEDS TO INCREASE, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY TO, TO MEET THE, THE CLIMATE GOALS, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO, UH, FROM THAT ASPECT OF WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE MUNICIPALITY AS ITSELF, UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR TIMELINES AND OUR PACING IS, IS DIFFERENT WITHIN THAT.
UH, SO I THINK THE COMPONENT IS WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO, TO PUSH AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
UH, BUT THE ASPECT, THE COMPONENT OF WE REACH THE GOAL, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, AT THIS POINT, IT'S KIND OF 50 50, WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY MAKE IT OR NOT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MUCH LESS THAN A 50 50 CHANCE THAT WE MAKE IT.
SO WHY CONTINUE TO HOLD ON TO A HOPE AND A DREAM THAT ISN'T REALISTIC? I MEAN, I THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND THEY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY THINK ABOUT IS, IS THE PLANET'S ON FIRE AND THEY THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A 50% REDUCTION, AND IT'S NOT REALISTIC.
SO, SO WHY, WHY DO WE KEEP HOLDING ONTO A GOAL THAT'S NOT REALISTIC? 'CAUSE THAT GOAL IS NEEDED TO ABATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
IF WE PUNT IT AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE IT TO 25% REDUCTION BY 2025 OR 2035, IT MAKES IT TO WHERE IT'S FURTHER OUT, IT MAKES IT TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH, WE HAVE FIVE MORE YEARS TO, TO STILL WORK ON THIS.
IT'S STILL SOMETHING FAR AWAY.
THE, THE IMPACTS AND REDUCTIONS NEED TO HAPPEN NOW.
AND SO THOSE COMPONENTS OF LIKE HOLDING ONTO THAT GOAL, IT'S NOT A COMPONENT OF LIKE, WE'D SET GOALS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ONLY SET GOALS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE.
WE SET GOALS THAT ARE SCIENCE-BASED, THAT ARE COMPONENTS OF LIKE, WE, THIS, WE NEED TO WORK TO GET TO THIS COMPONENT AND THIS COMPONENT OF 50% REDUCTION BY 2030.
THAT'S REALLY STEP ONE TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
FROM A CLIMATE ACTION COMPONENT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT NET ZERO BY 2050.
SO THE ASPECT OF LIKE MOVING GOALS, UH, WITHIN THAT, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP ON THE ACTION OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH CLIMATE ACTION, UH, AS A CITY, AS A MUNICIPALITY, HOW WE FUNCTION IN THIS SPACE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW ON, ON THE MATTER, AND THAT'S MY PREROGATIVE JUST LIKE IT, YOURS
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AND EVERYBODY ELSE UP HERE.I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE CONVEYING, UH, A DISINGENUOUS MESSAGE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS 50% REDUCTION WHEN IT'S NOT IN THE CARDS TO DO IT.
AND IT'S NOT THAT I OPPOSE TRYING TO GET THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST PERSONALLY, I JUST BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE AND BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES ABOUT IT RATHER THAN HOLDING ON BE TRANSPARENT TOO.
I MEAN, IF THE, THE WHOLE ASPECT OF IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE SET A GOAL FOR 50% BY 2030 AND BY 2030 WE'RE AT 35% OR 20% OR 40% OR WHATEVER.
WHAT THAT ASPECT IS, WE SET THE GOAL, WE WORKED AS DILIGENTLY AS WE COULD TO MAKE THE IMPACTS THERE, AND THEN WE'RE TRANSPARENT IN THE REASONS ON WHY WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT GOAL AND GOTTEN AS FAR AS WE DID.
I DON'T VIEW IT AS SO MUCH AS WE HAVE TO MOVE THE GOALPOST JUST BECAUSE WE'RE, UH, NOT ON TRACK TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT.
MY HAT IS A BUSINESS HAT AND MY BUSINESS HAT SAYS, YOU DON'T GET TO HANG ON TO A 10 YEAR GOAL THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE DOING STRATEGIC PLANNING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND FACING REALITY EVERY YEAR.
SO I, I'M, I'M NOT WANTING TO DEBATE WITH YOU, YOU, BRYCE, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE PRODUCTIVE TO CONTINUE FOR ME TO PRESS BACK ON THIS.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, TO MY COLLEAGUES, I JUST SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A WORTHY FIGHT THAT WE'RE ENGAGED IN.
I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE AND BE WILLING TO COMMUNICATE THAT.
THAT'S ALL I 'CAUSE 50% I THINK IS PRETTY FAIR TO SAY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE FROM HERE.
BEFORE WE GO TO JESSICA, UH, ANNETTE HAS SOMETHING TO WEIGH IN ON.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD, UH, SAY TO THE COUNCIL ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC IS THAT 2030 IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND WE'LL BE ENGAGING IN A NEW GOAL SETTING PROCESS BECAUSE 2030 IS NOT THE LAST DATE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'LL BE DOING NEW THINGS PAST 2030 AS AN ORGANIZATION.
UM, AND I GUESS I VIEW THE GOAL AS YOUR STATEMENT MM-HMM.
UM, SO I, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I WOULD, UM, ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS WHAT IS THE MESSAGE YOU WANT TO SEND TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT A SENSE OF URGENCY, AND IT IS YOUR POLICY, UM, AND YOUR DIRECTION OBVIOUSLY.
BUT BECAUSE WE ARE COMING UP ON A NEW PLANNING HORIZON PERIOD FOR ANOTHER, UM, UH, HORIZON, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS RELATIVELY SOON.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT PLAN FOR PAST 2030.
WHEN WILL THAT BE? WELL, I WOULD ASSUME ANY PLANNING PROCESS CAN TAKE LIKE AN A YEAR OR SO.
I WOULD THINK SOMETIME AROUND 2028 WE'D BE GETTING INTO THAT.
BUT I'D LOOK TO BRYCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON HIS LONG RANGE PLAN FOR, FOR THE RENEWAL OF THIS OR THE EVOLUTION OF THIS.
BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES.
SO, UM, JUST AS, UH, CITY MANAGER SAID THAT THE COMPONENT THERE IS, UM, WE'RE, IT TAKES ABOUT A YEAR OR SO TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THAT, THAT PLANNING PHASE COMPONENT TO IT.
UH, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN HAD KIND OF LIKE AN UPDATE PROCESS, NOT A FULL LIKE REDO OF THE PLAN, BUT JUST UPDATE STATUS, UH, KIND OF AT THAT THREE YEAR MARK.
UH, THAT WOULD PUT US INTO LIKE THE LATER HALF OF THIS YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR TO START KIND OF GOING THROUGH WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WHAT THOSE UPDATES, UH, WOULD BE NEEDED, UH, FOR THAT.
BUT IN TERMS OF AN OVERALL, UH, CHANGE WITHIN THAT, THEN, UH, IT WOULD BE LOOKING FURTHER DOWN THE LINE AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT 2030 GOAL.
JESSICA, THEN, UH, KATHY, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT GOVERNMENT IS NOT BUSINESS.
BUSINESS IS NOT, GOVERNMENT BUSINESSES OPERATE IN A MUCH WITH THE BOTTOM LINE.
THEY OPERATE WITH A MUCH DIFFERENT MINDSET.
GOVERNMENT HAS A LOT OF OF LEADERSHIP INVOLVED.
IT HAS A LOT OF VISIONING INVOLVED.
I DON'T THINK THAT, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR MESSAGE THAT WE STILL WANT TO GET TO 50.
WE MAY NOT MAKE IT, BUT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET TO 50.
THAT'S, I MEAN, GOVERNMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN BUSINESS.
AND THIS IS, I THINK, ONE WAY IN WHICH IT IS.
UM, THERE'S NO BOTTOM, THERE'S NO BOTTOM LINE HERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO READJUST YOUR, YOUR PROFITABILITY AND YOUR ALL OF THIS EVERY YEAR IN, IN ORDER TO HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN.
SO I THINK THAT I, I I THINK THAT WE HAVE A VISION AND WE HAVE A GOAL, UM, EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE LIKELY NOT TO MAKE IT.
I THINK WE, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
AND I KNOW YOU DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT ASPECT OF IT.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS IT, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU THAT WOULD ENHANCE YOUR ABILITY TO MEET, TO MEET THE GOAL?
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UH, I'D SAY, UM, THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR IT AS THE ASPECT OF JUST ADDITIONAL DIALOGUES WITH OUR UTILITY COMPANIES ON WHAT THEY CAN PROVIDE TO THE AREA.UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR US WITH, UH, WITH, WITH BOTH OF 'EM OR WHATNOT WITH A PS OR UNISOURCE, IS HOW CAN THEY BUILD A SITE SPECIFIC TO SEDONA TO COVER WHAT'S NEEDED.
SO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH 'EM OR, UH, LOBBYING, UH, COMPONENTS WITH ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION TO EXPRESS INTEREST TO PUSH THIS FORWARD.
MM-HMM,
'CAUSE A PS HAS A GOAL BY 2030 TO BE ABOUT 60, 65% CLEAN ENERGY, UH, AND TO GET OUT OF COAL, UM, INDUSTRIES BY THAT SAME TIMEFRAME.
UH, AND SO, UH, APPLYING CONVERSATIONS AND ADDITIONAL DIALOGUES WITH THE CORPORATION COMMISSION OR THE UTILITIES, I THINK, HAVE WE EVER LOBBIED THE CORPORATION COMMISSION TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? AS FROM SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE? FROM MY KNOWLEDGE? NO.
WELL, I LOOKED, YOU KNOW, ANNETTE'S HERE, SHE'S HEARING THIS.
SO THAT'S
BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE, I THINK GETTING NEW PEOPLE ON ON THE CORPORATION COMMISSION IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.
IN THIS CASE, THE CURRENT PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY CLIMATE CHANGE FRIENDLY.
SO, AND IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, THAT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR MAIN GOAL? IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT TRANSIT OR, OR ANYTHING THAT I, AND, AND YEAH.
YEAH, SO I, I THINK, UH, FROM THE ASPECT FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION, I THINK THE CITY IS DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS.
I MEAN, JUST BEING ABLE TO GET TRANSIT OFF THE GROUND, RUN IN, UH, YEAH.
BEING ABLE TO EXPAND THAT, CONTINUE TO DEDICATE RESOURCES TO THAT IS GONNA BE INSTRUMENTAL.
UM, AS WELL AS THE EFFORTS THAT COUNCIL HAS TAKEN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT COMPONENT IS ALSO A CLIMATE ACTION SOLUTION.
AND SO THOSE ARE JUST LIKE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE ON THOSE INVESTMENTS.
AND THE, THE DEDICATION TO THAT, I THINK IS GONNA HELP PUSH US.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO MAGIC BULLET THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU.
KATHY, AND THEN THE VICE MAYOR, THEN PETE, AND THEN TAKING PETE'S LEAD FROM BEFORE WE ARE 40 MINUTES OUT, I'M SORRY.
UM, MY COMMENTS TO THAT, BUT FIRST I, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE WATCHING THE CLOCK SO MUCH THAT WE'RE GONNA SHORT SHRIFT SOME OF THE INFORMATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE SPENT SO MUCH UP ON THE FRONT THAT I, I DON'T WANNA SHORT SHRIFT THE INFORMATION IN HERE.
I I DON'T WANT THE CLOCK TO DRIVE THE CONVERSATION.
SO I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, I HERE AND, AND AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FO'S CONCERNS.
UM, I THINK GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE TRANSPARENT.
UH, WHEN I REMEMBER WHEN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WAS ADOPTED AND THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED ON THE DAIS AT THAT TIME WAS THAT IT WAS AN ASPIRATIONAL NUMBER.
THERE WAS ALMOST AN ACCEPTANCE THAT IT WAS A NUMBER THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE ACHIEVED.
AND I ALSO REMEMBER THAT A LOT OF THE REDUCTION WAS ESTIMATED WHY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ACHIEVED ON THE A PS CHANGING OPERATIONS THAT HAVE NOT MATERIALIZED, UM, AS FAR ALONG AS WE THOUGHT.
I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DON'T WANNA CHANGE THE GOAL 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU DON'T WANNA CHANGE THE MESSAGE OF WHAT YOUR DESIRE IS, WHERE YOU WANNA GO.
RIGHT? BUT I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CAVEAT WITH IT SO THAT WE ARE ALWAYS TRANSPARENT SAYING THAT THE GOAL IS 50%, WE ARE AT 8% OF THAT 50%.
UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE FALLING, WE'RE FALL.
IT'S NOT LOOKING LIKE WE HAVE FALLEN BEHIND WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO REACH THAT GOAL.
AND WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT IN THAT MESSAGING, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LEAVING OURSELVES OPEN TO SCRUTINY, BEING DISTRUSTED.
YOU KNOW? SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN WHICH IT'S ALL PRESENTED BECAUSE TO JUST SAY WE HAVE A 50% GOAL.
GUESS WHAT? I HAVE A 50% GOAL TO LOSE 20 POUNDS IN A WEEK.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN
BUT, BUT I WANNA BE REALISTIC AND SAY, WELL, MAYBE I GOT TWO POUNDS THERE AND THE 20% GOAL IS, IS OUT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO, YOU CAN'T JUST SET IT.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN MESSAGE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS NOT ATTAINABLE.
WE HAVE TO FRAME THIS IN A MORE HONEST, TRANSPARENT WAY FOR DIALOGUE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARD THE BEST GOAL THAT WE CAN.
I MEAN, WE, WE WANNA GET THERE, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH THE WAY IT'S FRAMED.
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SO I WANNA GO BACK TO A PS, THEY'RE COMING HERE IN THE, I THINK OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING YES.TO TALK ABOUT FIRE PREVENTION.
BUT WE COULD PUT ON THE, MAKE THE AGENDA BROAD ENOUGH THAT WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT MORE THAN FIRE PREVENTION.
I THINK WE, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT AGENDA SETTING THAT AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT.
FOR THEM WHO CAN RESPOND BEYOND THE FIRE PREVENTION, UH, FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEM.
'CAUSE WE ARE HEAVILY RELIANT ON, ON THEIR ACTIVITIES, WHICH WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
MAYOR, IF, IF, IF I CAN THANK YOU,
MY THOUGHT IS THAT IF WE CHANGE WHAT OUR GOAL IS, DOES IT TAKE OUR FOCUS AWAY FROM WANTING TO MEET THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGING MAYBE THAT WE'RE BEHIND AND WE NEED TO CATCH UP.
WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE WE'VE DONE RECENTLY, BUT WE NOT MOVE THE GOAL.
WE, WE CONTINUE TO GO AFTER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND POSSIBLY EVEN REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF URGENCY TO FIND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES VERSUS CHANGING WHAT OUR GOAL IS AND LOSING SIGHT OF THAT.
LIKE WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON BRINGING A PS IN AND SAYING, LOOK, WE WANNA BE A PARTNER WITH YOU AND WE NEED YOUR HELP.
AND, AND IT MAKES THAT THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, ASSUMING THEY WILL AND COULD RIGHT.
WHICH THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO.
SO, BUT I, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCILOR KINSELLA, WE NEED TO BE, WE OWE TO THE RESIDENTS TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
SO, WELL, AS KATHY MENTIONED, EVEN INITIALLY WE SAID IT WAS ASPIRATIONAL.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVEN'T BEEN TRANSPARENT.
I THINK WE HAVE BEEN TRANSPARENT SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING.
UM, I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD I GUESS BE MORE EMPHATIC ABOUT HOW FAR BEHIND WE ARE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TRANSPARENT.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK I, I THINK A MESSAGE YOU ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD HERE.
8%, WELL, WHERE WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, MATHEMATICALLY WE SHOULD BE AT WHAT, 20 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THESE BASICALLY ARE TRANSPARENCY OPPORTUNITIES.
AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THE, ANYBODY ON THE DAY IS NECESSARILY AGREEING THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE THE GOAL.
SO I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST MOVE ON.
YOU KNOW, PROGRESS IS NEVER LINEAR.
IT SHOULDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE LINEAR.
AND I ALSO, UH, EXPECT THAT, UH, OUR CITY STAFF, UH, IT DOESN'T GET PUSHED TO IRRATIONALITY JUST TRYING TO ACHIEVE A GOAL, RIGHT? WE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
WE, WE MAKE CONSCIOUS DECISIONS AS WE GO ALONG AND WE BALANCE THE NEED, THE DESIRE FOR GETTING A GOAL THE COUNCIL SET OUT.
BUT ALSO WE'RE NOT GRASPING AT STRAWS, SPENDING MONEY IRRATIONALLY JUST TO TRY AND GET IT AT THE LAST YEARS.
THAT WE EXPECT THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF PERFORMANCE THAT OUR STAFF DELIVERS TO US.
UH, BRYCE MY, MY QUESTION BACK TO YOU, JUST 'CAUSE I CAN'T EVER TAKE MY ENGINEER HAT ON.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THESE CALCULATIONS AND SORT OF WHAT GOES INTO IT AND WHAT KIND OF ASSUMPTIONS AND WHERE YOU GET YOUR DATA AND HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE AIR BARS ARE HERE? STANDARD DEVIATION, YOU KNOW, ANY, UH, FOR THE, I DON'T HAVE DIRECT LIKE, ERROR BARS OFF OF IT, BUT FOR LIKE THE NATURAL GAS, UH, ELECTRICITY USAGE, UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, UH, WE'RE, UH, PRETTY HIGH CONFIDENCE WITH, UH, THOSE DATA SETS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE COMING DIRECTLY FROM UNISOURCE A PS, UH, AND THEN ADOT.
UH, OUR WASTE NUMBERS HAVE A MUCH HIGHER ERROR BAR JUST 'CAUSE IT JUST OF THE WAY THAT THE AVAILABLE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT'S OUR BIGGEST UNKNOWN IS THE WASTE SIDE OF THINGS.
BUT, UH, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THE, THE DATA SETS THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR ELECTRICITY USAGE, NATURAL GAS AND VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED IN PARTICULAR.
SOME OF THESE TRENDS ARE KIND OF SUBTLE AND IF YOU SAW AN AIR BAR AROUND IT, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY FEEL DIFFERENT IN THE ANALYSIS OF HOW WE'RE DOING RELATIVE TO THE GOAL, IF YOU SAW WHAT THE ACCURACY OF, OF THE NUMBERS WERE TOO.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER OF, OF THOUGHT.
I, I'D BE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT OUR TOLERANCE FOR ACCURACY, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IS.
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I GUESS MY 2 CENTS.I KNOW WE WANNA MOVE ON, BUT, UH, WE ARE A YOUNG DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE JUST, IN A MATTER OF SENSE COMPARED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE JUST START, WE'RE JUST STARTING.
UM, AND WE ARE SUCCESSFULLY INTEGRATING OURSELVES INTO ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT HERE, AND WE'RE MAKING BIG CHANGES.
UM, SO I GUESS JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND IN TERMS OF JUST GIVING US A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO START TO, UH, IMPACT REDUCTIONS MORE.
AND MAYOR, I JUST, OUR STAFF ARE AMAZING AND I DO WANNA REMIND THE COMMUNITY OR WHOEVER'S WATCHING THIS, THAT THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND THERE'S A ROLE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO PLAY TOWARDS ACHIEVING THE GOAL.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BRYCE AND ZACH'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET THESE OR THE CITY GOVERNMENT AS AN ORGANIZATION TO BE THE SOLE, UM, EFFORT THAT MEETS OUR GOAL.
AND SO I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE ALL OF US TO REALLY DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS INDIVIDUALS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY ACHIEVE OUR GOAL AND NOT PLACE IT ALL ON THE SHOULDERS OF THESE TWO FINE FOLKS WHO ARE REALLY DOING A LOT OF WORK IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT THE INFORMATION AND TRYING TO MEET WITH PEOPLE AND BE AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO THE TRANSPARENCY POINT.
SO, UM, I I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT REMINDER OUT THERE THAT THERE'S A ROLE FOR EVERYBODY TO PLAY TO HELP US GET HERE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S SAYING THAT THIS, UH, DYNAMIC TEAM ISN'T DOING A FABULOUS JOB.
THAT'S, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HERE IS SAYING THAT AT ALL.
IT'S JUST, IT IS WHAT IT'S, BUT CERTAINLY FOR NOT, UH, NOT A LACK OF TRYING AT ALL.
I I AM CERTAINLY NOT SAYING THAT I JUST HAVE MY OWN PARTICULAR NICHE THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, I MEAN, LOOK AT THE RESEARCH THAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHERE YOU'VE COME FROM WHEN THE DEPARTMENT FIRST STARTED.
SO PLEASE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND, UH, AT LEAST MINE, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHERS, BUT I'M SURE THEY WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S NOT THE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S A MATTER OF WHERE WE ARE.
SO RACE, LET'S CONTINUE ON AND TRY TO MAKE THAT 30 MINUTES IF WE CAN, IF POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, UH, SO JUST VERY QUICK ON THE INSIGHTS, UH, ARIZONA NEW MEXICO EG GRID, WHICH IS THE EG GRID'S, A LARGE DATABASE, UH, THAT'S COLLECTED BY THE EPA FOR EMISSION FACTORS, UH, THAT'S SEEN CONTINU IMPROVE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THE OFFSETS, UH, THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE LARGELY OFFSET BY ELECTRICITY USAGE, UH, INCREASE IN NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION FROM THAT STRONG WINTER.
UH, WE ALSO, THERE'S A SLIGHT LAG IN THE ONROAD DATA AND WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE FROM, FROM, UH, ADOT.
AND THEN AS WE MENTIONED, THE SOLID WASTE ESTIMATES, UH, REMAIN BROAD, UH, BUT WITH THE TR THE PUBLIC TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE IMPACTS, UH, WITHIN FOR 2023, THERE'S 334, UH, LITTLE OVER 334 PASSENGER BOARDINGS.
THE SHUTTLES THEMSELVES TRAVELED ABOUT 122,000 MILES, UH, FOUR, THOSE SAME 334, UH, PASSENGER BOARDINGS.
UH, IF THEY WERE TRAVELING BY A SOCIAL RECREATION KIND OF PASSENGER VEHICLE, THEY AVERAGE A LITTLE OVER TWO, UH, PEOPLE PER, UH, VEHICLE.
UH, SO MULTIPLYING THAT BY THE AVERAGE TRIP DURATION OF THE, UH, SHUTTLES ESTIMATED ABOUT 1.3 MILLION MILES WOULD'VE BEEN ULTIMATELY COVERED IF IT PASSENGER VEHICLES WERE, UH, HAVING TO COVER THAT SAME DISTANCE FOR THEIR, THEIR TRIPS.
UH, AND SO THE COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT THE TRAGE SHUTTLES EMITTED VERSUS WHAT THE VEHICLES, UH, PASSENGER VEHICLES WOULD'VE INSTEAD, UH, THE TRAGE SHUTTLES HELPED AVOID JUST THE FOUR TRAGE SHUTTLES RUNNING FOR YOUR, HELPED AVOID ABOUT 383, UH, METRIC TONS.
SO WE'RE, UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE IMPACTS, UH, THAT IS MADE WITHIN THOSE TRAILHEADS SHUTTLES.
AND ROBERT HAS, UH, BEEN LEADING THAT, UH, THE CHARGE SO FORWARD.
SO, UM, WE'RE THE, AS I MENTIONED, THE WASTE DATA IS IMPROVING, BUT IT'S NOT WHERE, UH, I WANT IT TO BE, TO BE ABLE TO ENCOMPASS A CHANGE IN OUR METHODOLOGY.
UH, BUT THE, UH, SEDONA RECYCLES AND TAYLOR WASTE PROVIDED, UH, SOME RECYCLING DATA FOR 2023.
UH, AND JUST OFF OF WHAT THEY PROVIDED, UH, THERE'S ABOUT 1800 METRIC TONS OF AVOIDED EMISSIONS IF THAT, UH, SAME MATERIAL ULTIMATELY WOULD'VE BEEN LANDFILLED.
UH, AND SO WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT, OR MOST LIKELY THAT IMPACT OF RECYCLING WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER, UH, IF WE CAN CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS IN, UH, COLLABORATION WITH OUR OTHER WASTE HAULERS TO GET RECYCLING DATA.
SO WHERE DOES THIS ALL KIND OF LEAD TO SOME OF OUR ACTIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, TRYING TO HELP, UH, LEAD AS A BY EXAMPLE WITHIN THE STATE? SO THE STATE, UH, HAS CLIMATE ACTION PLANNING EFFORTS THAT WERE, UH, KICKED OFF VERY RECENTLY.
SO LAST FALL, UH, THEY BEGAN A, A PLAN IN EARNEST TO CREATE A PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
UH, THEY HAD A DEADLINE TO CREATE A PLAN BY MARCH 1ST TO THE EPA.
UH, SO OUR, OUR TEAM HELPED, UH, FACILITATE
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REGIONAL WORKSHOPS WITHIN, UH, COCONINO COUNTY.AND THEN WE SUM, UH, SUBMITTED OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES TO, UH, BOTH THE STATE, UH, NAU AND A SU UH, TEAMS. AND THAT, UH, ALL OF THAT WENT INTO THE CREATION OF THE CLEAN ARIZONA PLAN, UH, WHICH IS THE STATE OF ARIZONA'S PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, AND A PCAP WHERE THE, THE PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS NEEDED TO SUBMIT AN IMPLEMENTATION GRANT APPLICATION.
UH, SO WE HAD A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND, 'CAUSE THE, UM, APP, THE PCAP WAS SUBMITTED TO THE EPA BY MARCH 1ST, AND THEN WE HAD A DEADLINE OF APRIL 1ST OF SUBMITTING, UH, APPLICATIONS TO IT.
SO WE SUBMITTED, UH, ESSENTIALLY TWO.
UH, WE ARE CO-APPLICANT ON THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF'S APPLICATION, UH, WHERE WE APPLIED FOR, UH, FUNDS FOR THE EXPANSION OF OUR COMMUNITY COMPOSTING PROGRAM, UH, AS WELL AS TO BE A LEARNING PARTNER ON FLAGSTAFF'S PROPOSED, UH, BIOCHAR FACILITY THROUGH THAT, UH, CPRG GRANT.
UH, AND THEN WE SUBMITTED OUR OWN APPLICATION, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROGRAM, UH, THE CREATION OF A SOLAR, UH, REBATE PROGRAM, PROCUREMENT OF ELECTRIC FLEET VEHICLES, UH, EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS, UH, FOR A LOCAL, UH, TRAINING PROGRAM FOR MAINTENANCE, UH, FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS IN THE, THE, THE AREA.
BUT, UM, THE EXPANSION OF THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I LEFT WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY FROM THE COZY HOMES TO, TO, TO SUPPORT AN EXPANSION.
WHAT'S CHANGED, UH, COZY HOME IS, UH, RAPIDLY WORKING TO HIRE MORE STAFF, UH, TO, TO MEET EXPANSION.
UH, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR AND NOT, AND HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING AT ALL THE STATE WORK THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF, ARE THEY GONNA LAY OUT, UH, MATH AND AN ESTIMATION TECHNIQUE THAT IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT THAN YOURS? ARE THEY NOT GOING TO THAT LEVEL AND THEY'RE STILL TRUST IN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO COME UP? YEAH, SO THEY, UH, THE STATE OR, SO, N-A-N-A-U IS ESSENTIALLY LEADING THE, THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY EFFORT FOR THE STATE.
UH, THEY, MYSELF AND, UH, ZACH JUST RECENTLY, UH, JUST FINISHED, UH, THE GRADUATE CERTIFICATE WITHIN, UM, GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING THROUGH NAU.
UH, AND SO WE'RE, OUR METHODOLOGY IS VERY MUCH ALIGNED TO HOW, UH, THEY GO THROUGH, UH, THEIR METHODOLOGY.
THEY'LL LOOK AT THEIR STATE INVENTORIES AND THEN COMPARE THAT ON WHAT THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE, LIKE, GIVE THEM, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN RECTIFY, UH, THE NUMBERS AND AVOID DOUBLE COUNTING, UH, AND THE LIKE.
SO, UH, I, I BELIEVE WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR ACCOUNTING METHODS, UM, IS, IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT, UM, ULTIMATELY THE NAU UH, N U'S TEAM IS PURSUING WITH IN, IN, IN, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE STATE.
SO THE, THE PCAP IS JUST LIKE STEP ONE FOR THE STATE.
UH, THEY STILL HAVE TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
EVERYONE LOVES THEIR ACRONYMS. SO CCAP, I GUESS IT'LL BE OR WHATNOT, UH, THAT'LL BE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE AND THAT WILL HAVE MORE DETAILED INVENTORIES THAT ARE BUILT, UM, AT THAT STATE LEVEL THAT OUR INVENTORIES WILL HELP YOU A PART OF.
CASTLE WILLIAMSON, THAT'S INCREDIBLE NEWS FOR PART OF THE STATE, THE STATE HAD ALWAYS BEEN RELUCTANT TO, TO DO ANY OF THIS BECAUSE IT WAS WOKE, SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THIS.
DO YOU THINK THAT THIS MIGHT INVOLVE THE STATE MORE DIRECTLY IN TERMS OF AFFECTING SOME OF THE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU NEED ON BOARD IN ORDER TO, IT'S, THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD, IT WOULD REALLY INCREASE THE PRESSURE ON, ON THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO BE PARTNERS WITH IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
IF THE STATE HAD A STAKE, HAD HAD, HAD SOMETHING ON THE TABLE THEY WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, AND THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE, OUR ABILITY TO MEET SOME OF THESE GOALS IN THE FUTURE.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD HAPPEN? I MEAN, I WOULD, I, YEAH.
I BELIEVE, UH, THAT THE, THE STATE HAS MADE VAST IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN IT.
THEY CREATED AN OFFICE OF RESILIENCY THAT WAS SOLELY FOCUSED ON STARTING THIS EFFORT.
UM, THEY ALSO APPLIED FOR A-C-P-R-G GRANT ON THEIR END THAT I BELIEVE INCLUDES LIKE A SOLAR FOR ALL KIND OF PROGRAM.
UM, AND WE'VE, UH, BEEN IN TALKS WITH THEM ON JUST COMPONENTS OF LIKE, MAKING SURE THAT RURAL ARIZONA WAS CONSIDERED IN THEIR, IN THEIR PLANNING EFFORTS.
UH, AS I WOULD SAY, WITHOUT THAT OFFICE LIKE THIS, THE CREATION OF THIS, THE PCAP, UH, WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN A CONSIDERATION.
IT GIVES, MADE A LOT OF EFFORT.
SO INTERNALLY, UH, WE'RE ALSO, I'LL PRESENT ON THIS, UH, IN GREATER DETAIL TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT THE DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS,
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UH, WE'VE, UH, MCKINSTRY HAS PARTNERED WITH US CON CURRENTLY GONE THROUGH FIVE FACILITY AUDITS, UH, WITH, UH, DEPARTMENT INTERVIEWS, UH, ACROSS, UH, A WIDE RANGE HERE.AND THEY'RE EVALUATING A, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEASURES FROM SOLAR PV TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY COMPONENTS, BATTERY STORAGE, UH, EV INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE LIKE.
UH, AND SO THAT WILL ALL BE PRESENTED ON KIND OF LIKE AS A, A TEASER FOR UPCOMING, UH, COUNCIL, UH, COMPONENT THAT WILL BRING THE DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP BEFORE YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION.
UH, AND SO WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT OVERALL KIND OF TIMELINE PROCESS IS RIGHT HERE AT THE SYNTHESIS PHASE.
UH, WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER MONTH OR SO OF TRYING TO WRAP UP THAT COMPONENT AND THEN WE'LL LOOK TO GET IT, UH, ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA FOR, UH, REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OR WHATNOT.
BUT MCKINSEY'S BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON A WIDE VARIETY OF TOPICS, UH, THAT, UH, WE'VE, UH, KIND OF POSED TO THEM.
UH, AND SO WE'VE BEEN, UH, REALLY GOOD PARTNERS WITH US.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT PRESENTATION, UH, COMING UP HERE SOON.
SO WE'LL QUICKLY, UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF OUR MUNICIPAL PROJECTS.
UH, SO THIS ONE, WE JUST WANNA THROW A QUICK PICTURE IN HERE.
THESE ARE THE SOLAR BALLARDS THAT WE INSTALLED AT POSSE GROUND PARK.
UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY COOL PICTURE, SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT REAL QUICK.
UH, SO THERE'S ABOUT 20, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, ABOUT 23 BOLLARDS AND THEN 11 PARKING, UH, LOT LIGHTS THAT WERE INSTALLED.
UH, THEY KIND HAD THAT NARROW BAND AMBER COMPONENT TO 'EM.
SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE.
UH, WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ZACH TO COVER, UH, MUNICIPAL E-BIKES AND BIKE.
UM, YEAH, SO I'M JUST GONNA TRY AND KEEP THIS REALLY, UH, BRIEF.
UM, SO BASICALLY IN THE MSP, THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, UH, THERE ARE TWO ACTION ITEMS IN THERE, SPECIFICALLY, UH, TARGETING BIKES.
FIRST WAS TO DEVELOP AND BUILD, UH, DEPLOY, UH, E-BIKE FLEET OR BICYCLE FLEET FOR THE CITY, UH, FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA, UH, THE STAFF.
AND THEN, UH, INSTALL AND IMPROVE, EXPAND, UH, BIKE RACK INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND TOWN.
SO WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, WE'VE, UH, BOUGHT AND, UH, DEPLOYED SIX E-BIKES.
AND THEN, UH, I'VE INSTALLED, UH, 18 HIGH CAPACITY BIKE RACKS AROUND TOWN.
UH, YOU MIGHT NOTICE A FEW OF THEM AROUND, UM, UH, CITY HALL.
UH, ONE SPECIFICALLY IS, UH, FOR, UH, COVERED BIKE PARKING.
UM, AND SO WE'VE, UH, TRAINED 32 STAFF MEMBERS TO USE THE E-BIKES.
UM, AND SO FAR, UH, NOT INCLUDING TRAINING, UH, TRAVEL, UM, 'CAUSE WE, WE TRAIN ALL THE STAFF.
UH, THERE, THERE'S ABOUT 180 MILES OF TRAVEL THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE, UH, THOSE BIKES HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED.
I'LL BE WORKING NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO MAKE SURE TO, UH, TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE, UH, DEPARTMENTS TO USE THOSE BIKES EVEN MORE, I GUESS.
COUNSELOR OF THE 32 STAFF MEMBERS TRAINED, HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY ARE UTILIZING THIS ON A SOMEWHAT REGULAR BASIS? UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY.
UH, I, I REALLY JUST TRACK MILES.
UM, I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T REALLY, UH, FOLLOWED UP TO, UH, ASK HOW MANY ARE USING, UH, THE BIKES.
I KNOW THE TCAS USE THEM QUITE A LOT, UM, WITH THEIR ROUTES.
UM, UH, A COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE USE THEM.
I THINK MOSTLY JUST KEEGAN, UM, BUT
UM, BUT, UH, AND THEN, UH, I THINK SOME PEOPLE FROM UH, COM DEV USE THEM AS WELL.
AND THEN I USE THEM A LOT AS WELL.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, WASTE DIVERSION AND SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, SARAH HAS BEEN DOING, UM, A REALLY GREAT JOB.
UM, WHO IS SARAH? UH, SHE HAD A, A VACATION THAT WAS SCHEDULED BEFORE WE HAD THIS MEETING.
UM, SO SHE'S BEEN DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, UM, WITH, UH, WASTE DIVERSION EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERING WITH, UH, PARKS AND REC, UM, TO IMPLEMENT THEIR FIRST SERIOUS LOW WASTE EVENTS.
UM, SO THIS YEAR, UH, WE, FOR THE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL, THAT WAS OUR FIRST ATTEMPT.
UH, WE STARTED OFF WITH DIVERTING 69% OF THE FOOD WASTE, UM, AT THE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL.
UM, FOR THE WASTE, UH, REGARDING THE CELEBRATION OF SPRING, WE DIVERTED 32%.
UM, THAT LOWER NUMBER WAS BASICALLY, WE HAD A, WE WEREN'T REALLY PREPARED FOR OR READY, UH, EXCUSE ME.
WE WEREN'T IN, UH, WE WEREN'T, UH, REALLY EXPECTING TO BE DEALING WITH A LOT OF FOOD WASTE.
AND SOME FOOD TRUCK VENDORS CAME ON BOARD VERY LAST MINUTE.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF THREW US OFF.
AND THEN, UM, WE, UH, ALSO EXPERIENCED THE MOST, UH, THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF ATTENDANCE, UH, FOR THAT EVENT THAT THAT EVENT HAS EVER HAD.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO THINGS, THAT'S WHAT LED TO THE LOWER PERCENTAGE OF DIVERSION.
UM, I ALSO WORKED, UH, WITH BREAKFAST WITH SANTA, AS SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED.
WE USED REUSABLE PLATES FOR THAT.
UH, THAT WAS OUR FIRST TIME USING THAT.
SO WE AVOIDED A LOT OF WASTE THERE.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND WORK.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PARKS AND RECREATION TO IMPROVE OUR PROCESSES, UM, AND MAKE IT A REAL PART OF, UH, WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT ON AN EVENT.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UH, WE'VE ORDERED, UH, SOME MOBILE WATER BOTTLE REFILL
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STATIONS TO ALSO CUT DOWN ON, UH, PLASTIC WASTE.UM, AND SO WE CAN TRY AND, UH, ENCOURAGE OUR FOOD VENDORS TO STOP SELLING, UH, PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES AND JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR OWN WATER BOTTLE TO THESE EVENTS.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, RECYCLING AT OUR MIN MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, SARAH'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THAT.
UM, YOU'LL, UH, YOU MIGHT NOTICE, UH, AROUND TOWN IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY CITY BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, REALLY COMPREHENSIVE RECYCLING.
AND SO SHE COORDINATED WITH, UH, RYAN'S TEAM AND PARKS AND REC REC AND, UM, SEDONA RECYCLES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE EXACTLY AS SEDONA RECYCLES NEEDS.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING SURE WE'RE RECYCLING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO.
UM, AND THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD ROLLOUT.
RYAN HAS SAID THAT, UH, THERE HAS NO BEEN NO ISSUES, UH, WITH THAT ROLLOUT.
AND OUR STAFF IS, UM, AS WE GO AROUND TOWN OR AROUND OUR MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, WE'RE REALLY SEEING OUR STUFF ACTUALLY RECYCLING AND SEPARATING OUT OUR, OUR WASTE.
PETE, UH, YEAH, ZACH, I WAS ENJOYING THE PICTURE HERE.
I THINK THAT'S A VIEW THAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING RIGHT BEHIND US.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE WALL, UH, IN, IN THE, IN THE BACK ROOM THERE.
THAT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME LAYOUT AS THE TRASH CANS THAT WE SEE.
UH, AND IT CAUSES ME TO REMARK THAT RECYCLING AT COMMUNITY EVENTS DIFFICULTY DIFF IT'S DIFFICULT.
UH, ARE YOU GUYS WORKING A SET OF BEST PRACTICES AND SOMEHOW COMMUNICATING THOSE TO EVENTS AND YOU ALSO DOING THINGS LIKE, UH, AMBASSADORS, YOU KNOW, WELL, SOMEBODY THERE
UM, SO WHAT ARE THE KEYS TO MAKE THOSE EVENTS REALLY GO WELL? YEAH, SO IT STARTS OFF PRETTY EARLY, UM, WHERE, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS EVEN BEFORE THE EVENT EVEN GOES ON, UH, WE, WE REALLY REQUIRE THE LIST OF VENDORS THAT ARE GONNA BE ATTENDING.
UM, AND WITH THAT INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, COORDINATE WITH THEM TO TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THE, UH, TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE MATERIALS THAT, UH, WE REALLY CAN AND CANNOT TAKE SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, FIVE TRUCKS THAT ARE JUST GIVING OUT STYROFOAM.
UM, WE CAN TRY AND TALK TO 'EM ABOUT, OR, UH, HELP THEM, UH, TRANSITION TO A MATERIAL THAT, UH, WE CAN TAKE IN TERMS OF RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING.
UM, SO ONCE THE EVENT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, UH, WE CHECK IN WITH THE FOOD TRUCKS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED FOR PROPER RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU MIGHT NOTICE AROUND, UH, THESE EVENTS WE HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE WASTE DROP OFF STATIONS.
UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST TRASH CANS.
WE HAVE TRASH CANS, RECYCLING, COMPOSTING, UM, AND, UH, THE RECYCLING GENERALLY IS BROKEN UP INTO, BROKEN UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND, UH, AS BEST AS WE CAN, WE DO USE AMBASSADORS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, HIGH SCHOOLERS A LOT AND OTHER VOLUNTEERS SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVERYBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO REALLY HELP OUT THEIR COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT A MORE SUSTAINABLE PLACE TO LIVE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR, UH, UH, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS WE'RE REALLY PROUD ABOUT.
UM, AND AT THOSE STATIONS, UH, WE'RE WE'RE LITERALLY JUST, UH, HELPING PEOPLE, UH, SORT THEIR, THEIR WASTE AND EDUCATION A LITTLE BIT AS WELL, UM, AS NEEDED.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THE EVENT, UM, SARAH AND I AND A COUPLE VOLUNTEERS WILL, UH, GO THROUGH ALL THE TRASH BAGS, UM, AND MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, WE WEIGH ALL OF THE MATERIALS.
UM, HAS ANYTHING BEEN DONE? I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
I THOUGHT YOU HAD RECOGNIZE ME.
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, GO AHEAD.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA, IT'S ACTUALLY THE NEXT SLIDE.
TRYING TO GET THE RESTAURANTS TO VOLUNTARILY STOP PROVIDING WATER TO THE GUESTS, UNLESS IT'S, IT'S ASKED FOR, IS ANYTHING GONNA BE DONE? IT, HAS IT BEEN CONSIDERED? 'CAUSE I KNOW I TALKED TO ARIZONA WATER AND THEIR, THEIR TEAM DURING, YOU KNOW, THE PAST YEAR THEY WERE GONNA DO SOMETHING WITH THE, UH, THEIR PROMOS AND IT NEVER HAPPENED.
BUT IF WE CAN CUT BACK ON THE WATER USAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T, FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T WANNA DRINK SOME OF THE WATER 'CAUSE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FILTERED, BUT IT'S WASTEFUL.
IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING BEING LOOKED AT IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THAT? YEAH, SO THE ADDITIONAL, UH, LIKE OUTREACH COMPONENTS AND WATER CONSERVATION, THE LIKE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING ROUTINE CONVERSATIONS WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY ON WHAT MESSAGING AND WHAT MATERIALS WE CAN GET OUT THERE, RIGHT.
WELL, THAT WAS A RIPPLE EFFECT.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT COULD BE VOLUNTARILY 'CAUSE WE CAN'T MANDATE IT, BUT IT COULD BE VOLUNTARILY, UH, REQUESTED.
SO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT, UH, WITH THAT.
AND I'M BE HAPPY TO, TO CHAT WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, HOW WE CAN PUSH, UH, EFFORTS LIKE THAT FORWARD.
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QUESTIONS? UH, NEXT ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE BIG BELLY BIG THE BIG BELLY WASTE.UH, YEAH, SO THE, UH, WE HAD THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, PILOT PROJECT WHERE, UH, LAST, UH, LAST FALL ABOUT, UH, IT WAS ABOUT AUGUST, SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME THAT WE, UH, STARTED TO GET A NUMBER OF THE, THE INITIAL 10 RECEPTACLES INSTALLED, UH, AND UTILIZING, UH, THEIR, WHAT'S CALLED, UH, A CLEAN CONNECT, UH, SOFTWARE FROM, UH, BIG BELLY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT WASTE DATA, UH, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATIONS TO STAFF ON COLLECTION EFFICIENCIES AND THE LIKE WITH, UH, GOALS OF THAT PROJECT, UH, TO IMPROVING WASTE MANAGEMENT COLLECTION AND DATA RETRIEVAL, UH, POTENTIALLY REDIRECTING LABOR HOURS TO OTHER TASKS, UH, REDUCING WASTE RE POTENTIAL WASTE RECEPTACLES NEEDED, UH, INCREASING, UH, CITY COMMUNICATION POINTS THAT ARE ON THE SIDE MESSAGE PANELS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, TRYING TO MAP COLLECTION TRENDS WITH THAT.
AND SO, UH, SARAH'S UH, PULLED TOGETHER, UH, SOME COM SOME OF THE EFFICIENCY COMPONENTS, UM, HERE, UH, SINCE THE START OF THE PROGRAM.
SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY WHEN, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE WITH THIS READY AND NOT READY STATUS, A READY IS A, A, THE, THE RECEPTACLE IS AT 80% FULL, UH, AND IT'S PULLED AT THAT 80% MARK AS BEING READY.
IF IT'S, UH, BELOW THAT, UH, THEN IT'S KIND OF CONSIDERED NOT READY.
SO IT'S LIKE AN INEFFICIENT USE OF THE TIME TO DO IT.
UH, SO WHEN THE, UH, PROGRAM FIRST STARTED, UH, FOR THAT OCTOBER, UH, FOR THE, THE MONTH THERE OF OCTOBER, UH, THE COLLECTION EFFICIENCY WAS ABOUT 44% WERE READY, UH, 56% ROUGHLY WERE NOT READY.
UH, FOR MONTH EIGHT OF THE PROGRAM, THE COLLECTION EFFICIENCY WAS 95, UH, 0.7% WERE READY, UH, 4% WERE NOT READY OVER THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT.
UH, ABOUT 66% OF THE PROJECTS, OR 60% OF THE 66% OF THE RECEPTACLES WERE COLLECTED IN READY STATUS.
UH, AND SO IT'S A COMPONENT OF AS, UH, THE HAS GONE ON LONGER, OUR STAFF HAS GOTTEN MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE SYSTEMS AND HOW THE NOTIFICATIONS ROLL OUT, UH, IN A TIMELY MANNER TO 'EM.
THIS LITTLE DIP THAT YOU'LL KIND OF SEE HERE IN FEBRUARY WAS INITIAL KIND OF TROUBLE FEUDING, UH, PHASE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WHERE ONE OF THE, UH, RECEPTACLES WAS KIND OF THROWING OFF SOME FALSE SIGNALS TO STAFF.
AND SO EVERY TIME, LIKE THEY TOUCHED OR MILDLY OPENED A DOOR, IT'D SEND OUT, LIKE THEY, THEY, UH, THEY COLLECTED IT, BUT IT WAS JUST US TRYING TO BE LIKE, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SPECIFIC RECEPTACLES? UH, SO KIND OF USING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THOSE, USING THOSE RECEPTACLES AS A PROXY FOR THE, UH, OVERALL RECEPTACLES, UH, AROUND TOWN.
UH, THERE'S ABOUT 140 OR SO RECEPTACLES THAT ARE PUBLIC WORK STAFF IS DILIGENTLY, UH, GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE PARKS UPTOWN, UH, WETLANDS, THE BUS STOPS, UH, TRA TRAVERSING ALL AROUND.
UH, THE, THE BIG BELLY RECEPTACLES ARE AVERAGING ABOUT, UH, OVER, OVER A YEAR WOULD BE AVERAGING ABOUT 4.65 TONS NICE, UH, PER BIG BELLY.
UH, AND SO APPLYING THAT KIND OF AVERAGE AS A PROXY FOR THE REMAINING, UH, RECEPTACLES, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 650 TONS THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS DILIGENTLY HAVING, UH, MANAGING, GOING AROUND, MAKING SURE THAT THAT, UH, WASTE IS, IS, UH, OUT OF THE AREA AND WHATNOT AS, UH, SO ONE OF OUR COMPONENTS IS TO KIND OF GET THIS INITIAL BASELINE, UH, AND ALSO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, DATA FOR OUR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS TEAM FOR ONE OF LIKE, HOW, WHAT'S OUR BASELINE, OUR WASTE COLLECTION, UH, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE ON, LIKE, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BAGS THAT WE MIGHT, UH, BE NEEDING FOR THOSE AREAS? HOW CAN WE RE UH, REDIRECT LABOR HOURS TO IT? UH, BUT THE PROJECTS, UH, I FEEL LIKE HAS GIVEN US THAT KIND OF INITIAL BASELINE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
UH, AND SO THE, THE, UH, THIS INITIAL EFFORT KIND OF LED US TO, UH, THIS NEXT SLIDE, UH, WHICH, UH, WHICH OUR EFFORT TO, UM, GET RECYCLING RECEPTACLES DOWN.
SO THE 10 BIG BELLIES ARE THE 10 OF THE 140 TOTAL WASTE RECEPTACLES.
SO, AND ARE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT EXPANDING THE BIG BELLY? SO THE, UM, THE ASPECT ONE, THEY'RE RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE PER RECEPTACLE.
SO I, THE COMPONENT OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN ACT AS THAT PROXY, SO WE'RE NOT, WE, IF ONE'S IN SAY LIKE THE, UH, THE PLAYGROUND AREA OR LIKE A TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE AREA OR WHATNOT, I DON'T THINK WE NEED MORE THERE TO SEND US ADDITIONAL SIGNALS.
UH, THAT INITIAL ONE I THINK IS A GOOD, GOOD KIND OF PROXY TO BE LIKE, JUST TO GET STAFF LIKE, HEY, THIS AREA IS IN, IS IN NEED OF, UH, OF ASSISTANCE OR WHATNOT FOR, FOR COLLECTION.
UH, I THINK IF WE DID THAT FOR EVERY SINGLE TRASHCAN, UH, UH, IT WOULD BE, OR, OR EXPANDING IT EVEN, UH, GREATER, I THINK IT COULD BE, UH, KIND OF, UH, BE MORE INEFFICIENT.
BUT THE BIG BELLY DOES MORE THAN COLLECT DATA.
IT ACTUALLY COMPRESSES THE, NO, SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT MODELS WITH IT.
UM, ONE MODEL WILL, WILL FULLY COMPRESS IT, ANOTHER, SOME OTHER MODELS WON'T.
UM, IT'S JUST THE ASPECT WE INITIALLY WENT WITH NON COMPRESSION ONES, UH, DUE TO AVOIDANCE, WANTING TO AVOID HAVING AN OVERLY HEAVY BAG FOR STAFF TO TRY TO LIKE REMOVE OUT OF THE RECEPTACLE.
UH, SO THE ONES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY INSTALLED ARE NON COMPRESSION ONES FOR THE RECYCLING ONES.
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DIFFERENT, UM, THAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR.UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, UH, WAS WANTING TO TRY OUT WHAT THE COMPRESSION ONE WOULD.
I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE COMPRESSION MODELS, SO, UH, I GUESS I WAS WRONG ON THAT.
WHAT'S THE PRICE OF ONE? UH, FOR FULLY CONNECTED, YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT 4,500 OR SOLE FOR, I THINK THAT'S FOR COMPACTING ONE.
I THINK IT'S LIKE THREE GRAND FOR NON-ACTING.
VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? YEAH.
UM, SO WE, UH, A FEW MORE WITH THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT SLIDE, BUT DO YOU WANT TO SET IT UP? SURE.
UM, SO, UH, ONCE WE GOT THAT KIND OF BASELINE WITH THE, THE WAXY RECEPTACLES, UH, WE DECIDED TO PURSUE A GRANT WITH A DEQ THROUGH THEIR, UH, RECYCLING GRANT PROGRAM.
UH, SO WE APPLIED FOR, UH, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, TO PROCURE AN ADDITIONAL 10 BIG BELLY RECEPTACLES THAT WOULD BE SOLELY DEDICATED TO THE RECYCLING ASPECT OF IT.
UH, AND THAT AMOUNT WAS, UH, AWARDED, UH, ABOUT 53,650 AND 2 CENTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY GAVE THE 2 CENTS PART.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SOLELY DEDICATED TO THE RECYCLING DATA? AGAIN, ONLY AGAIN? SO THE, THE RECEPTACLES WILL BE, UH, ONLY RE UH, ALLOWING OR, UH, BE JUST FOR RECYCLING.
UH, SO THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF COMPARE UNLIKE THE DIVERSION OF, OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE COMPONENTS.
UH, SO YOU GOT A, UH, THAT, UH, THAT GRANT WAS AWARDED AND, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THOSE RECEPTACLES SHOULD BE COMING HERE, UH, ABOUT MID-JUNE.
UH, AND THEN AS WE HAVE A SLIDE A LITTLE BIT LATER, UH, THERE IS, UM, SARAH HAS BEEN WORKING ON A, UH, SCHOOL SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM, AN ART PROJECT WHERE, UH, THE, UH, ARTWORK THAT THE KIDS DESIGN WILL BE GOING ONTO THE RECEPTACLES ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET 'EM OUT THERE AND INSTALL.
SO WOULD THOSE BE THE DIFFERENT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA DEDICATE THEM, BUT WOULD THEY BE A DIFFERENT, UH, MAKE? SO THERE'LL STILL BE BIG BELLIES, UH, BUT THE MESSAGING AND THE, UH, THE MESSAGING AND THE, UH, YEAH, THE MESSAGING AND GRAPHICS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UH, WITH THE COMPONENTS.
LIKE IT WILL ACCEPT GLASS PAPER, ALUMINUM PRODUCTS OR WHATNOT.
IT'LL BE SEPARATED WITHIN THAT, A COMPRESSION FOR THOSE, OR NOT.
COMPRESSION FOR THOSE ARE, UH, WE STAFF DECIDED THAT THEY WERE WANTING TO TRY 'EM OUT, SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS BETWEEN THEM.
SO, UM, LET SEE, OTHER SLIDES ARE OFF.
SO, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND COVER SOME, UH, COMMUNITY PROJECTS AND REGIONAL COLLABORATIONS.
UH, NOW, UH, SO THE FIRST ONE WE'LL TOUCH ON IS AN UPDATE FOR THE HOME HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT.
UH, SO THAT PROJECT'S, UH, MOVING ALONG.
WE HAVE 19 HOUSEHOLDS, UH, THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM AT THE MOMENT.
UH, TWO OF THE 19 WERE FOR, UH, JUST HOME ENERGY AUDITS.
UH, 14 OF THE HOUSEHOLDS, UH, QUALIFIED FOR THE FULL FUNDING LEVEL.
SO WE HAVE 61 HOMES, UH, THAT ARE, UH, HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROJECT.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT SIX MORE HERE IN JUNE.
UH, WE HAD A, A FEW HOMES THAT, UH, HAD TO DROP OUT FOR MEDICAL REASONS WHERE THEY MOVED OR THE LIKE, SO THEN WE MOVED SOME PEOPLE OFF OF OUR WAIT LIST.
SO WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A A, A WAIT LIST, UH, FOR IT.
UM, BUT, UH, SO, UH, WE'RE SHIFTING SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE DATES AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO GET THOSE, GET THOSE PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
UH, CUMULATIVELY, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATED ABOUT $22,000 SAVED, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE HOMES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM, AVERAGING ABOUT $362, UH, PER YEAR IN UTILITY, UH, COST REDUCTIONS, UH, WITH THE, UH, AVERAGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE HOMEOWNER ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
SO THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE GONE, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ALLOTTED, UH, FUNDING FOR THEM AND HAVE, UH, GONE OUT OF POCKET TO HELP COVER ANY OVERAGES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH IT.
UH, ABOUT 65% OF 'EM HAVE BEEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
35% HAVE BEEN, UH, MORE HOME MOBILE HOMES.
AND 68% OF HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN OVER THE AGE OF 55.
UH, AND THEN ABOUT 65% OR SO, UM, THE HOUSEHOLDS HAVE BEEN 80% BELOW THE AREA, BEEN BELOW 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR THE RESPECTIVE HOUSEHOLD SIZE.
BRYCE, COULD YOU JUST REMIND PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WATCHING THE COURSE TO DO? THIS IS VARIED BY THE HOMEOWNER.
SO THE, THE COST TO DO THE PROGRAM, UH, IS, IS COMPLETELY COVERED, ESSENTIALLY BY THE CITY.
UM, SO THE, THE ENERGY AUDIT AND UP TO WHATEVER FUNDING AMOUNT THAT THE HOME HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR, UH, IS COVERED BY THE CITY.
THERE'S NO OBLIGATION FOR THE HOME TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT AMOUNT.
SO FOR PROJECTS FIVE GRAND AND THEY'VE BEEN ALLOTTED 3,500 IN COVERAGE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ABOVE THAT.
THEY CAN GET AS MUCH SERVICES THAT THAT 3,500, UH, WILL COVER FOR THEM.
IT'S BEEN A REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
WHAT'S THE WAITING LIST NOW? SO, THE WAITING, WE GOT THE WAITING LIST DOWN TO ZERO NOW.
'CAUSE WE, WE ENDED UP HAVING, AS WE HAD ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE THAT DROPPED OFF, UH, OF IT JUST BECAUSE, UH, THE,
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UH, AFOREMENTIONED, UH, ISSUES.SO WE WERE ABLE TO, WE'RE DOWN TO A ZERO ON THE WAITING LIST.
SO, UM, WE'RE RUNNING OUT SOME MORE, UM, SOME MORE SOCIAL MARKETING ASPECTS OR WHATNOT TO, TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, UH, AS WE GO ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM.
UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, HOMEOWNERS HAVE GONE ABOVE THE ALLOTTED FUNDING.
THE AVERAGE, UH, UH, PROJECT COST HAS BEEN ABOUT, UH, 44 94, 4490 $3.
UH, THE CITY COVERS ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 3,678 OF THAT.
UH, SO THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE, UH, COVERED ABOUT 814 OF THAT, UH, OVERAGE TO, TO, UH, GET ADDITIONAL SERVICES WITHIN THAT.
UH, AND SO THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR THAT.
THE, THE, UH, EACH HOUSEHOLD IS AVERAGING AN ESTIMATED ABOUT 1.5, 1.57 METRIC TONS ARE ABOUT 21% OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD REDUCTIONS.
UH, SO I WAS CHATTING WITH OUR, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UH, AND WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY HOMES MIGHT BE, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.
SO WE KIND OF SAID A, A ARBITRARY BASE MARK OF, LIKE, IF IT'S OVER 20 YEARS OLD, UH, WITHIN SEDONA, IT MIGHT NEED ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.
SO, UH, FROM OUR, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECORDS FROM 1988, FROM TIME OF INCORPORATION TO 2004, THERE'S ABOUT 1500 HOMES, UH, THAT MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE CONTINUED SERVICES.
SO IT WOULD BE ESTIMATED ABOUT ANOTHER 2,400 OR SO IN, UH, REDUCTIONS THAT COULD, UH, BE SEEN THROUGH THE PROGRAM FOR THOSE, UH, SPECIFIC HOMES.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WITHIN OUR, UH, CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT, WE APPLIED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE EXPANSION OF THAT PROGRAM.
SO WOULD THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING MAKE IT, UH, MORE, UH, THE, EXCUSE ME, WOULD IT RAISE THE AMOUNT PER HOUSEHOLD OR THE GOAL BEING MORE HOUSEHOLDS AT THE CURRENT RATE? UH, THE GOAL, I BELIEVE WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE HOUSEHOLDS TO GET THROUGH THAT, THE PROGRAM.
UM, 'CAUSE UH, I THINK THAT $814, UH, MARK IS, IS, UH, IS ISN'T TOO, TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN, UH, AT THAT POINT.
BUT I, WHEN I WANNA SAY THAT FOR EVERY HOUSEHOLD, UH, WITH THE CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT THEY MIGHT BE BE GOING THROUGH, BUT THE ASPECT OF TRYING TO GET MORE HOMES THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ZACH FOR COMMUNITY COMPOST.
UM, SO WHEN, UH, I FIRST TOOK OVER THIS PROGRAM, WE HAD ABOUT 30 HO 30 HOUSEHOLDS REGISTERED.
UM, WE NOW HAVE 92 HOUSEHOLDS REGISTERED WITH 186 RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING.
UM, SINCE THE PROGRAM STARTED, WE'VE DIVERTED OVER 17,000 POUNDS OF FOOD SCRAPS, UH, WITH 9,000 POUNDS BEING DIVERTED, UM, IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
UM, I DO EXPECT A DECENTLY LARGER AMOUNT, UH, TO BE, UH, DIVERTED THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE EXPANDED THE PROGRAM.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, I'VE ALSO UPGRADED THE GATE, UH, THE LOCK ON THE GATE, UM, TO BE DIGITAL, UM, JUST TO HELP WITH ACCESS.
UM, THE COUNSELOR HAS, I'M SURE, EXPERIENCED IT.
UM, WE WERE LIKE WORKING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CLUNKY, UH, BIKE LOCKS AND DIAL LOCKS, AND IT JUST WASN'T WORKING.
SO, UM, WE JUST CHANGED IT OVER TO THAT.
AND IT'S DRASTICALLY IMPROVED, UH, ACCESS AND, UH, INCREASED OUR, UH, OR RATHER DIMINISHED THE, UH, CHANCES OF WILDLIFE TO GET INTO THE, UH, DROP OFF AREA.
UM, I'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, COMPOST CROWD TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPAND THE PROGRAM, UM, BY ANOTHER 50 HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, I WILL BE, UH, IT DOESN'T COST THE CITY ANY EXTRA, JUST THE, THE PAY STRUCTURE WE HAVE WITH THEM, UH, WE'RE CHARGED PER BUCKET.
SO IT'S THE SAME WHETHER WE FILL ZERO BUCKETS OR 10 BUCKETS.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T CHANGE OR IMPACT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT COSTS TO RUN THIS PROGRAM.
UM, BUT I DO NEED TO, UH, CONFER WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, INTERESTED IN DOING THAT AGAIN, UH, THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AND THEN I'LL BE, UH, INSTALLING JUST A REGISTRATION SIGN OUT ON THE FRONT GATE TO ATTRACT MORE, UM, MORE RESIDENTS.
I DO MY BEST TO TRY AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS.
UM, BUT, UH, REALLY, I THINK JUST ADDING A SIGN OF THE FRONT GATE IS GOING TO HELP QUITE A LOT.
UM, ZACH, CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS WHERE THIS IS? SO ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED? OH, SURE.
UM, YEAH, SO THE COMMUNITY COMPOSTING PROGRAM DROP OFF SITE IS, UH, LOCATED AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK, UM, IN BETWEEN, UM, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND, UM, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND IT'S NESTLED IN BETWEEN THE, UH, RECYCLING, UH, DUMPSTERS THAT ARE UP THERE.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THE MATH ON THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.
'CAUSE COMPOST CROWD DOES OFFER PICK UP AT HOME SERVICE.
SO FOR OUR 50 HOUSEHOLDS, WHAT THE AMOUNT WE'RE SPENDING ANNUALLY DIVIDED BY 50, IS THAT LESS THAN WHAT COMPOST CROWD WOULD BE CHARGING FOR PICKING UP AT HOME? DO YOU KNOW THE MATH ON THAT? UM, I DON'T, WE, WE HAVE 92 HOUSEHOLDS.
92 OH, EXPAND BY 50, THANK YOU.
UM, I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, I, I'M NOT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEIR RATES ARE FOR THE, UH, FOR PRIVATE HOUSEHOLDS.
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UM, BUT THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO, UM, HAVE THE CITY PAY FOR, UH, THEIR PICKUPS.AND WE OFFER FREE SERVICES FOR OUR, UH, RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE.
AND, AND YOU'VE DONE THE, THE MATH TOO, ON CARBON EMISSIONS OF EVERYBODY DRIVING VERSUS A, A COLLECTION VEHICLE GOING AROUND PICKING IT AT HOME.
JUST, I'M CURIOUS HOW DEPTH OF THE, THE PAYBACK ON THIS PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.
I'M JUST, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THE MATH.
UM, I DID A VERY ROUGH ESTIMATE.
UH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH ME.
UM, I SHOULD, UH, I'LL, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, UH, ON JUST HOW MUCH, UH, EMISSIONS HAVE BEEN, UH, AVOIDED, UM, JUST FROM COMPOSTING OR RATHER NOT SENDING IT TO THE LANDFILL.
UM, THE, THE MISSING INFO WOULD REALLY JUST, I WOULD RATHER, I WOULD REALLY NEED, UH, TO KNOW HOW MANY MILES COMPOST CROWD DRIVES PICKING UP FROM ONE HOUSEHOLD TO ANOTHER, RATHER THAN JUST PICKING UP FROM ONE LOCATION.
UM, SO I, I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM ON TRYING TO SEE IF THEY EVEN TRACK HOW MANY MILES THEY, THEY TRAVEL.
SO IT SORT OF FOLLOWS ON, UM, TO COUNSELOR BERMAN'S QUESTION, UM, BECAUSE THEY DO HOME PICKUP AND I'M A SUBSCRIBER OF THEIR HOME PICKUP.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACTUAL HOMES INSIDE OF SEDONA ARE COM COMPOSTING? SO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, UH, I'M NOT ONE OF YOUR 92 HOUSEHOLDS, BUT I AM A HOUSEHOLD IN SEDONA THAT IS ACTIVELY COMPOSTING.
SO, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S PRIVATE COMPOSTING.
IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOOD WITH ALL THAT STUFF, MINE TURNS TO SLUDGE, WHICH IS WHY I PAY TO HAVE THEM DO IT.
SO, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR COMMUNITY IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, UM, COMPOSTING.
UH, YEAH, I, UH, GREAT QUESTION, COUNSELOR.
I ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UH, UH, PEOPLE THEY HAVE REGISTERED.
UM, THIS IS REALLY JUST A OVERVIEW OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS PROGRAM HAS, HAS DONE SO FAR.
UM, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP AND SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT.
WELL, IF THEY ARE, YOU, YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO EXPLAIN WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING COMPOSTING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, BECAUSE YOU'RE INCREASING IT BY 92 HOUSEHOLDS OR MORE AS YOU EXPAND THE PROGRAM.
IT'D BE KIND OF INTERESTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU WERE GETTING TO AS A CITY.
SO WE'LL, UH, MOVE ON TO SOME ADDITIONAL SPOTS HERE.
SO, UM, WE HAD SOME OUTREACH EFFORTS AND SOLAR CO-OPS THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.
SO, UH, WE HAD THE THIRD ROUND OF OUR SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS, UH, CO-OPS.
UH, SO THE SOLAR CO-OPS WERE FREE FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IN.
IT WAS IN, UH, PARTNERSHIP WITH SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, UH, AS WELL AS COCONINO COUNTY.
UH, SO OVER THE THREE ROUNDS, THERE'VE BEEN 533 TOTAL SIGNUPS.
SO THOSE INITIAL SIGNUPS ARE JUST TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, LEARN, LEARN ABOUT SOLAR AND CO-OPS COMPONENTS TO IT.
UH, ABOUT 127 OF THOSE, UH, CAME FROM THE SEDONA AREA, UH, 24, UH, SEDONA RESIDENTS, UH, OUT OF THE 148 TOTAL, UH, UH, SIGNED CONTRACTS FOR THE ACTUAL INSTALL, UH, THOSE 24, UH, RESIDENTS INSTALLED 171.18 KILOWATTS WORTH OF, UH, SOLAR VOLTAIC SYSTEMS ON THEIR HOUSES, UH, WITH AN ESTIMATED, UH, REDUCTION IN THEIR EMISSIONS FOR THOSE HOUSES, ABOUT 130, UH, METRIC TONS OR SO ANNUALLY, UH, FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. UH, AND SO THOSE THAT, UH, THAT SOLAR CO-OP IS A, AS I MENTIONED, IS A FREE CO-OP.
AND IT'S FULLY AT THE RESIDENCE DISCRETION, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO, UH, PURSUE, UH, AND SIGN THAT CONTRACT.
IT'S NOT THE, THE COUNTIES OR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PUSHING THEM TO SAY, SIGN IT.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP FACILITATE AND GET THEIR AWARENESS ON, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WITH THAT, UH, PROGRAM.
UH, AND THEN RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN, UH, PARTNERING WITH LOCAL FIRST ARIZONA ON THEIR GREEN BUSINESS BOOTCAMP.
UH, SO IT IS, UH, IT'S A, UH, SERIES OF, UH, SESSIONS OF OVER A SEVEN WEEK TIMEFRAME FOR VERDE VALLEY, LOCALLY OWNED OPERATED BUSINESSES IN NONPROFITS.
UH, AND THEY COVER EVERYTHING FROM WATER, ENERGY, WASTE, TRANSPORTATION, SOCIAL IMPACTS, AND LIKE, AND THEY, UH, THE BUSINESSES THAT GO THROUGH, UH, THE PROGRAM CAN ADDITIONALLY CONNECT WITH LOCAL FIRST ON GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES, ADDITIONAL EDUCATION PLANNING AND BENCHMARKING PIECE.
AND WE'VE ACTED AS A FACILITATOR, UH, FOR THE ENERGY SESSIONS, UH, FOR THAT, UH, GREEN BUSINESS BOOTCAMP AS A WAY TO TRY TO ENGAGE OUR, UH, COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS GROUPS IN THIS AREA.
HOW WAS THAT FUNDED, BRYCE? IS IT A STATE COUNTY FEDS? UH, SO THE LOCAL FIRST IS RECEIVED AT LEAST SOME PHIL PHILANTHROPIC AND, UH, FUNDING FOR IT, UM, THAT WAS PROVIDING IT FOR FREE
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FOR AT LEAST THE LAST FEW ROUNDS.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL CHANGE GOING FORWARD.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS STATE, WHICH IS CUTTING THEIR BUDGET.
SO IF THAT WOULD IMPACT COUNCIL WILLIAMSON.
YOU, HOW MANY BUSINESSES FROM SEDONA HAVE PARTICIPATED? UH, WE'VE HAD, OR, SO THE SEDONA AIRPORT, UH, HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE, UH, INITIAL CO-OP, UH, WE HAD SOME LOCAL, UM, LOCAL LIKE FOOD PROVIDERS AND, UM, OH, I FORGOT THE, I FORGOT THE NAME.
SO EACH CO-OP HAS BEEN RIGHT AROUND, I'D SAY FIVE TO SEVEN OR SO.
THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO BUILD IT OUT WITHIN THE LAST TWO CO-OPS THAT'S SAY, UH, IT'S BEEN, WE'VE HAD ABOUT FOUR SEDONA SPECIFIC BUSINESSES PARTICIPATING IN IT.
SO, UH, IT'S JUST, IT'S AT ITS INFANT STAGES OF TRYING TO BUILD THIS OUT.
'CAUSE UP TO LIKE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR, THIS BOOTCAMP DIDN'T EXIST IN THE AREA.
SO, A COUPLE, UH, MORE EFFORTS.
UH, AS, UH, THE MAYOR MENTIONED WE HAD THE RIPPLE EFFECT, UH, CAMPAIGN.
SO WE PARTNERED WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY F BY COUNTY, BIG PARK, AND BIG PARK WATER COMPANY TO CREATE THE RIPPLE EFFECT.
SO IT'S AN INTEGRATED DEMAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
SO IT PROVIDES, UH, THEY'LL PROVIDE FREE IN-PERSON WATER AUDITS TO BUSINESSES, UH, HOAS SCHOOLS AND MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES TO HELP IDENTIFY LEAKS OR THINGS THAT WE COULD IMPROVE UPON, UH, WITHIN THOSE AREAS TO, TO HELP CONSERVE WATER.
IT LAUNCHED, UH, LAST OCTOBER, UH, THEY'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL LIKE WATER TIPS AND VIDEOS.
THE MAYOR PARTICIPATED IN THE, WHAT WAS IT, THE WATER JOURNEY VIDEO, UM, A COMPONENT TO IT.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BUILD OUT ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH, UH, RE LUKA WITH THE, UH, ARIZONA WATER COMPANY TEAM IS, UH, POSSIBLY STARTING LIKE A PROJECT WET FESTIVAL OR SOME ADDITIONAL WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS IN THE AREA.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THAT EFFORT.
AND THEN, UH, WE'VE CONTINUED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL.
UH, SO WE, UH, PUT ON, UH, THE FIRST, UH, WORLD WATER DAY, UH, THAT WE HAD.
AND, UH, WE HAD, UH, FRIENDS OF THE VERDE RIVER, UH, NASCA, UH, OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL, UH, ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, AND OURSELVES, UH, AT THE, UH, AT THE EVENT.
AND, UH, WE, UH, LOOKING TO CONTINUE, UH, THOSE KIND OF OUTREACH AND EDUCATION EFFORTS, UH, ACROSS THE AREA, UH, WITH OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL.
WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL CLEANUP EVENTS WITH THEM.
THEY'VE HELPED COLLECT OVER 220 POUNDS OF WASTE, UH, FROM THE WATERSHED, UH, OF THEY, AS WELL AS DEVELOPING A MACRO INVERTEBRATE DEMONSTRATION THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE TO, LIKE, SCHOOLS AND INTERESTED, UH, GROUPS ON, UH, AN ASPECT OF LIKE, COMPONENTS WITHIN THE WATERSHED AND HOW LITTER AND THE LIKE, AND WATER QUALITY CAN CHANGE THOSE COMPONENTS.
THEY WERE ALSO A PARTNER WITH OUR SEDONA FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL.
UH, THEY HAD A, UH, A BOOTH THERE THAT HAD A, UH, KIND OF A GAME THAT, UH, PEOPLE COULD PLAY ON, LIKE HOW LONG, UH, RESPECTIVE TRASH LASTS IN, UH, IN THE WATERSHED FROM LIKE CIGARETTE BUTTS TO DIAPERS AND THE LIKES SO THAT THEY CAN KIND OF, UH, SHOW FOLKS LIKE LEAVING THIS STUFF BEHIND JUST, UH, STICKS AROUND FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
SO THEY'VE BEEN A REALLY GOOD PARTNER, UH, FOR US AS WELL AS THEY'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AT FARMER'S MARKETS AND SOCIAL MEDIA COMPONENTS.
KATHY, ON THE RIPPLE EFFECT AND THE WATER AUDITS, WHEN DID THAT START TO BECOME AVAILABLE? SO THE, UM, I THINK IT CAME ON PROBABLY IT WAS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TIMEFRAME.
THEY STARTED GETTING THE WATER AUDITS PIECE.
THE INITIAL LAUNCH WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE LOOKING LIKE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TIMEFRAME.
SO IS YOUR COMMUNICATION PROACTIVE TO HOAS? BECAUSE AS THIS IS TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT BEFORE, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THIS EFFORT, UM, IN ALL OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY AREAS, BUT WATER ESPECIALLY IS SOMEWHERE THAT HOAS, 'CAUSE USUALLY THE HO A VERSUS AN INDIVIDUAL ARE PAYING THAT WATER BILL.
SO AN INDIVIDUAL MAY NOT BE AS INCENTIVIZED OR JUST REMINDED, UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING FRUGAL ON THEIR WATER USAGE.
SO WHAT IS THE OUTREACH THAT'S DONE TO, ARE, ARE YOU PROACTIVELY OUTREACHING HOAS OR ARE YOU WAITING FOR HOAS TO CONTACT YOU, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE WATER AUDITS? AND HOW EXTENSIVE WILL THEY BE? 'CAUSE I SEE A BIG POTENTIAL FOR SOME WATER, YOU KNOW, WATER USAGE SAVINGS THERE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY, UH, BUILDING THAT COMPONENT OUT.
UH, AS I MENTIONED WITH, UH, UH, WE HAVE A NEW AMERICORPS COMING ON, UH, NEXT WEEK.
UH, THEY'LL BE, THEY'RE HAVE A TASKED WITH DEVELOPING EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND SERIES SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, LIKE WATER RESOURCE CONSERVATION, EMERGENCY PLANNING, AND THE LIKE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING THAT INTO THE SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET, TO PROACTIVELY REACH OUT TO THE HOA COMPONENTS.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE HOAS? YES.
WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT BACK, UH, OFF TO ZACH.
UM, SO THIS PAST SUMMER, UM, SEDONA EXPERIENCED A RECORD BREAKING 76 DAYS ABOVE, AT OR ABOVE 90 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT,
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18 OF THOSE DAYS, UH, WERE ABOVE A HUNDRED DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, UH, WITH THE MAX BEING 108.UM, SO WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT AND CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD? UM, SO FOR THE LAST THREE DECADES, UM, AS I'VE REPORTED TO, UH, TO THIS COUNCIL BEFORE, UH, BUT JUST A REMINDER, UH, FOR THE LAST THREE DECADES, UM, EXTREME HEAT IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN THE LEADING CAUSE OF WEATHER RELATED DEATH, UM, UH, SURPASSING FLOODING AND HURRICANES COMBINED EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND AS I'M SURE YOU MIGHT SEE ON THE NEWS, UM, THE COUNTRY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING EXTREME HEAT, HEAT WAVES, AND THE IMPACTS TO, UM, TO OUR, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT AWARENESS, UH, AND ACTION TOWARDS IT HAS BEEN INCREASING.
UH, THE STATE ITSELF HAS JUST, UH, CREATED, UM, AND LAUNCHED THEIR FIRST, UM, EXTREME HEAT, UM, OFFICE, UH, THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
UM, SO, UH, PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND, UM, UH, UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT IT IS, UH, TO, TO OUR POPULATIONS.
UM, AND, UH, LAST THING I'LL SAY WITH HEAT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS OUR POPULATIONS EQUITABLY.
UM, PEOPLE WHO, UH, WORK OUTSIDE WHO ARE ATHLETES WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO RUN THEIR AIR CONDITIONING OR EVEN PURCHASE THEIR AIR CONDITIONING, UH, PREGNANT PE UH, PREGNANT WOMEN, UM, INFANTS, UH, AND TOURISTS WHO DON'T KNOW NOT TO HIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR, UH, POPULATIONS EQUALLY.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER.
SO WHAT HAVE, WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING TO COUNTERACT OR DEAL WITH, UM, EXTREME HEAT? UM, SO WE'VE BASICALLY JUST FINISHED BUILDING THE FOUNDATIONS, UH, THAT ARE NEEDED TO START ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.
UM, SO AT THE VERY TAIL END OF THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, UM, WITH THE HELP OF NOAH, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, UM, OUR, UH, STATE CLIMATOLOGIST, DR.
AARON SEL, UM, SOME STUDENTS FROM NAU, UM, AND ABOUT 26 RESIDENTS FROM THE, UM, FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA, INCLUDING A COUPLE OF OUR, UH, COUNSELORS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, WE CREATED A, AN EXTREMELY DETAILED, UM, URBAN HEAT ISLAND MAP.
UM, SO THAT IS GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY ARE EXPERIENCING EXTREME HEAT MORE THAN OTHERS.
UM, I KNOW THAT MAP IS VERY SMALL.
UM, IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT IN MORE DETAIL.
UM, BUT BASICALLY THOSE RED ZONES ARE THE MOST DEVELOPED AREAS OF TOWN.
THOSE BLUE ZONES ARE EITHER, UH, BY CREEKS OR THEY'RE UNTOUCHED LAND, UH, OR A K, UM, FOR US FOREST SERVICE LAND.
UM, SO YOU'RE REALLY SEEING THE STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN, UM, COOLED AREAS AND, UH, DEVELOPED AREAS AND THE IMPACT HEAT HAS ON THE WAY WE DEVELOP AS A CITY.
UM, AND THEN WE JUST FINISHED, UH, CREATING AN EXTREME HEAT INTERVENTION GUIDEBOOK, UH, THAT WAS CREATED BY THE SAME CONSULTING FIRM THAT HELPED US MAKE THIS MAP.
UH, AND WITHIN THAT GUIDEBOOK, UM, THERE IS A WHOLE SLEW OF, UM, CITY AND, UH, INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WITHIN THAT GUIDEBOOK.
UH, AND THOSE ARE BROKEN DOWN, UM, BY, UH, A RECOMMENDATION WHY THAT RECOMMENDATION IS IMPACTFUL.
UM, SOME, UH, SOME NOTES OR CAVEATS TO DEPLOYING IT TO THINK ABOUT, UM, SO WE CAN AVOID SOME PITFALLS.
AND THEN I DID ASK THE CONSULTANTS TO, UM, ADD WITH EVERY RECOMMENDATION AS BEST AS POSSIBLE CASE STUDIES FROM OTHER CITIES THAT ARE WITHIN ARIZONA FIRST, UM, FOLLOWING THAT, IF THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY CASE STUDIES, UH, WITHIN THE SOUTHWEST AND IF THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY, UH, CASE STUDIES ON THAT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.
UM, SO THESE ARE THE MOST SEDONA SPECIFIC, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UH, ARE WITHIN THIS GUIDEBOOK.
UM, AND SO NEXT STEPS WE'RE COORDINATING WITH ALL THE OTHER, ALL PERTINENT DEPARTMENTS, RESIDENTS, AND COMMUNITY GROUPS, UM, TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE LISTED WITHIN THAT GUIDEBOOK.
UM, AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT IT DOES TAKE FOR SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT TAKES A LONG TERM CONCERTED EFFORT, SUSTAINED EFFORT OVER TIME, AND SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL TAKE MANY YEARS TO BEAR FRUIT.
UH, BUT WHEN THEY DO, THEY ARE EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE.
COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON AND THE VICE MAYOR, I'D BE INTERESTED IN JUST, COULD YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE OR TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS OTHER THAN DON'T GO HIKING AT ONE O'CLOCK WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES OUT? UM, WELL, UH, UH, YES.
IS THAT ONE, I MEAN, IS IT, THAT, ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UM, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
THERE ARE MANY
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CITED GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO EDUCATE AND REACH,
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UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FROM THE AREA.BUT I'M ASKING, YOU SAID THEY WERE FOR INDIVIDUALS.
SO WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE FOR INDIVIDUALS? A COUPLE OF THEM, OTHER THAN DON'T WALK OUT, UM, A LOT OF THEM INCLUDE JUST, UH, STRATEGIES FOR COOLING YOUR HOUSE.
UM, AND, AND I GUESS FOR PEOPLE FROM AROUND HERE, IT SEEMS KIND OF, UH, OBVIOUS, BUT FOR OKAY.
OTHERS WHO ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FROM AROUND HERE, OR THEY DIDN'T GROW UP HERE.
UM, IT'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS LIKE TAKE A COOL SHOWER IN THE DAY OR, YOU KNOW, USE A COOL RAG.
IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF JUST OKAY.
STUFF THAT'S GONNA HELP US WITH EDUCATION.
AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
UH, WHEN WILL IT BE AVAILABLE AND HOW WILL IT BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS? UH, YES, COUNSELOR.
UM, SO I, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO JUST REVIEW THE PERTINENT SECTIONS WITH, UM, THE PUBLIC WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S, A LOT OF THIS IS IN INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED AND CODE RELATED, UH, AND POLICY RELATED STUFF, UM, WITHIN THE GUIDEBOOK FOR THE CITY'S, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, SO WE FINISHED REVIEWING WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION AND COLLABORATION WITH THEM.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A, UH, DISCUSSION COMING UP VERY SOON WITH, UH, WITH, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, ONCE THAT'S DONE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO JUST BE PUBLISHING IT AND PUTTING IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND THEN DOING, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS WITH LINKS.
AND SO WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE IN THREE MONTHS? UH, NO, COUNSELOR, JUST, UH, A COUPLE, A COUPLE WEEKS.
AND ALL I'D ADD TO THAT IS, UH, IF, IF, IF IT IS OF INTEREST TO COUNCIL, WE'D BE HAPPY TO, TO COME BACK AND PRESENT ON THE, THE GUIDEBOOK ITSELF AND, UH, VARIOUS ASPECTS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT, UH, IN THE FUTUR AS WELL.
SO THIS IS, UM, UH, ONE OF THE SLIDES I'M MORE, UM, VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT ABOUT.
UM, SO THIS IS THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM.
UM, AS, UH, WE, WE'VE PRESENTED THIS PROGRAM, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
UH, IT FIRST CAME UP ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, AND SINCE THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, PUT IN A LOT OF UPFRONT EFFORT, AND WE HAVE OFFICIALLY JOINED THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, NETWORK, WHICH IS AGAIN, A NATIONAL LEVEL PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN SPREADING AROUND, UH, THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
UM, AND SO THE BASIC CONCEPT OF THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM, JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, BASICALLY PROVIDES A SUCCESS STRUCTURE AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE, UM, THAT IN, THAT ALLOWS AND ENCOURAGES NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, TO COME TOGETHER WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND, UH, EXECUTE PLAN, UH, PLAN, EXECUTE, UH, VARIOUS SUSTAINABILITY RELATED ACTIVITIES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE ORGANIZED, RUN, AND LED BY RESIDENTS.
UM, I AM MOSTLY GOING TO BE HERE TO SUPPORT, UM, HELP THEM WITH RESOURCES, NAVIGATE CITY PROCESSES.
BUT THESE ARE THEIR PROJECTS, UM, TO, UH, TO WORK ON.
UM, AND THOSE PROJECTS COVER THE FIVE AREAS OF ENERGY, AIR, WATER, LAND, AND PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE OUR, UH, FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM, UH, LES SPRINGS.
UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM LES SPRINGS HERE WHO IS, WHO'VE BEEN LESSENING IN.
UM, THEY'RE PART OF THE, UH, LEADERSHIP TEAM.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING, UH, VERY OVER, UH, A LITTLE BIT OVER, BUT, UM, IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN JUST, UH, ONE OF THEM, UH, GIVING, UH, SOME TALKING POINTS IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERESTED OR JUST SAYING A FEW THINGS.
UH, VERY LIMITED TIME, BUT, OKAY.
WELL, I CAN, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT UNDER TWO HOURS, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
I KNOW MOST OF YOU, UM, AND ZACH HAS BEEN AWESOME.
UM, I APOLOGIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T ATTENDED MEETINGS REALLY BEFORE.
WE JUST MOVED HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND I SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE OF IT.
UM, IT'S BEEN REALLY INTERESTING.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THERE WAS THIS MUCH GOING ON.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT THEM WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BECAUSE EVERYTHING STARTS SOMEWHERE.
AND WE ARE THE FIRST, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAM.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S MAYBE PERHAPS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THESE GUYS MORE RESOURCES SO THAT THEY CAN REACH MORE PEOPLE IN THE SEDONA AREA.
THIS COULD BE A REALLY BIG AND, UM, NEIGHBOR COMMUNITY BUILDING PROGRAM.
UM, WE KIND OF LIVE IN A PARK ALREADY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE WATER ISSUES.
WE DO MONTHLY, UH, WATER AUDITS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY.
UM, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
AND THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST LESS SPRING SURPRISES ME.
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YOU KNOW, ZACH HAS OBVIOUSLY PULLED IN ABOUT A MILLION DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, AS YOU KNOW, AND THE WHOLE TEAM IS.SO, THE ONE THING I WOULD URGE YOU TO DO IS TO REALLY SUPPORT THESE EFFORTS AND TO HELP US HELP BRING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES HAPPY TO HELP.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE A POSTER CHILD, WE'RE DOING, WE'RE GONNA DO THE BEST WE CAN.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
BUT I THINK OF THERE'S SO MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT COULD, THAT ARE ALREADY DOING IMPORTANT THINGS, BUT DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, THE ADDITIONAL IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.
AND IF WE WANNA MEET THOSE GOALS, THIS COULD BE A HUGE AND VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE CITY OF SEDONA, BLESS YOU,
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE CITY OF SEDONA, UM, ITSELF WITH, YOU KNOW, POLICE OR WHATEVER.
IT'S ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY THAT MAKES UP SEDONA DOING THEIR PART FOR SOLAR ENERGY, RENEWABLES, WATER USAGE, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO DO BUT ARE JUST TAKING OFF.
SO WE REALLY, I THINK, NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE GUYS ARE SUPPORTED AND THAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES KNOW ABOUT IT, AND KNOW WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE SO THAT WE CAN GET INVOLVED.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT COSTS THE COM, THE, UH, CITY REALLY ANYTHING, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S A VERY COST EFFICIENT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE DAY HERE.
HOW, HOW DID YOU KNOW TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROGRAM? HOW DID THE PROGRAM FIND YOU? OR DID YOU FIND THE PROGRAM? UH, YOU KNOW, JOE, WE, WE FOUND THE PROGRAM.
SHE'S ALSO ON THE P AND Z BOARD.
UM, WELL, I JUST FOUND IT IN ONE OF THE CITY POSTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE DISCUSSED IT.
AND OH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, SESSIONS.
I DISCUSSED THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS COMING UP.
AND BECAUSE LACE SPRINGS MONITORS THEIR WATER ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UM, TALKS ABOUT RECYCLING.
WE TALK ABOUT KEEPING OUR NATURE, UH, AT NATIVE PLANTS.
SO SOME OF THESE IDEAS WERE COMING UP THAT WE WERE ALREADY DOING.
AND I KNOW FROM TALKING WITH JESSICA, I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOAS AS WELL, AND MM-HMM.
AND SO WHAT INSPIRED ME IS A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE IS LEE SPRINGS SOMETIMES HAD A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WANTED TO COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, LAY SPRINGS, WE'RE ACTUALLY ENGAGED.
UM, TWO IS, HOW CAN WE CATAPULT THIS TO GET TO OTHER HOAS AND MAKE IT SO IT'S NOT, UH, 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE SEE IT AND SAY, OH MY GOSH, THAT'S SO MUCH WORK.
SO WORKING WITH ZACH, ZACH'S LEARNING WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WORK WITH AN HOA
UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE LEARNED IT.
AND, AND IT BECAME MORE OF LIKE A COMMUNITY GOAL OVERALL, NOT JUST FOR THE H HOA, RIGHT.
AND THAT, THAT THAT COULD REALLY LEAD TO A LOT OF OUTREACH BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET THE HOAS MEETING, LET'S GET THE HOAS INVOLVED.
AND WE CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, KNOW HOW TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT.
AND ACTIV ACTIVATING PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IT'S PASSIONATE ABOUT.
I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE HOA SUPER SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YES, WE WANNA DO THIS.
AND THEN FOLKS THAT NEVER SPEAK ARE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, I, I WANNA KNOW WHERE I CAN GET MY BATTERIES.
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME RECYCLE? 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE OVER 70 IN LAY SPRINGS, AND THEY HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES OR TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
AND SO I'M LIKE, OH YEAH, WE'LL TAKE YOUR BATTERIES.
SO IT JUST BECAME THIS INSPIRING MOMENT.
AND, AND SO I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY GARDEN AGAIN, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT FOLKS WOULD THINK 'CAUSE OF THE COST, AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE, OH, A PLACE I COULD GO.
AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS TALKING WITH SOME OF THOSE FOLKS THAT MOVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO, THEY WERE HIKERS.
THEY, WE HAVE A GROUP THAT WERE FOUNDERS OF THE SAHARA CLUB.
I MEAN, BUT NOW THE WESTERNERS.
BUT NOW THEY CAN'T WALK RIGHT NOW, THEY CAN'T HIKE, BUT THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I'D LOVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN WHERE I CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO ENJOY THE VISTA THAN MY BACK PORCH.
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY FASCINATING.
COUNCIL WILLIAMSON, YOU'D BE NEXT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.
UM, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU'VE TAKEN THIS ON.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IF THERE ARE COMMUNITIES OUT THERE AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO THIS, THEY SHOULD REALLY CONTACT ZACH SCHWARTZ
BECAUSE I KNOW AT THE FIRST MEETING, THE RESPONSE WAS, WAS NOT GREAT.
I THINK WE NEED MORE MEETINGS WHERE YOU MAY BE OUTREACH AS WELL AND BEGIN TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND HAVE THE SAME PRESENTATION.
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I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LEADERS THAT WANT TO DO SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS.AND THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN GET INVOLVED AND GET SUPPORT AND INVOLVE THE REST OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, ZACH'S AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY BECAUSE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I KNOW HE'S PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE WERE MAYBE A DEDICATED A LITTLE EASIER TO FIND INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
WE'LL GET THERE SO PEOPLE KNOW THERE, WE'LL GET THERE.
WELL, THESE THINGS FLOW ARE NOT GONNA BE, UM, WE'LL GET THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAPPEN IF WE DON'T LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT 'EM.
AND IT'S THE FIRST, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A PROGRAM.
SOMETIMES THERE'S SET UP TIME AND EVERYTHING.
SO THERE'S CERTAINLY, I KNOW THAT YOUR, THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT IN MOVING IT FORWARD AND MAKING IT A COMMUNITY WIDE SUCCESS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA ALSO POINT OUT IS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME AND MY FAMILY.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, LATE SPRING STARTED THIS YEAR, ITS OWN PRIVATE FACEBOOK PAGE.
SO NOW ALL OF THE, BECAUSE IT'S FIRE SEASON, SO ALL THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STUFF IS THERE.
SO ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE THAT NOW OUR RESIDENTS CAN GO IN, CLICK ONTO THE, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT LANDING PAGE FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA AND GET TO NIXLE AND GET TO SMART 9 1 1.
SO, AND KNOW OUR ZONE NUMBER SEVEN, I POSTED IT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE ARE WHAT THE SUSTAINABILITY NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATING TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE START AT THE SMALL AND, AND, AND COPYCAT IT.
JOE, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO THE OTHER HOAS JUST IN FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIPS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I COMMEND TO THOSE PRESIDENTS TO GET INVOLVED? I WOULD DEFINITELY JUST USE OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
SO WE HAVE LIKE A TOP-NOTCH MANAGER, CRYSTALLINE LASH.
NOT ONLY IS SHE OUR MANAGER, BUT SHE ALSO IS A, YOU KNOW, A VERDE VALLEY NATIVE.
SO, AND I'VE ALREADY GONNA HOOK HER UP WITH ZACH FOR THE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
SO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PUT ZACH'S PHONE NUMBER ON RIGHT ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS PROGRAM, AND THANKS FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
SHOWING UP, STEPPING UP, RIGHT? YEP.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THEM AND, UH, SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH IN THE FUTURE, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
AND, UH, LIKE YOU ALL JUST SAID, UM, THIS, THIS GENERALLY STARTS PRETTY SMALL IN, UH, OTHER CITIES.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA GROW FROM THERE.
AND WITH THE SUCCESS OF LES SPRINGS, UH, IT'LL JUST BE, UH, IT'LL BE EASIER TO, UH, CONVINCE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THIS IS AN EXCITING PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE IN.
IF WE KNOW ANYBODY IN FOOTHILL SOUTH, MAYBE THEY COULD INITIATE SOMETHING TOO.
YEAH, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, GUYS', UH, TIME THIS, THIS AFTERNOON.
SO WE WANT TO COVER A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS ON THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION.
SO, UH, IN OCTOBER WE HOSTED THE FIFTH ANNUAL HOUSE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, COLLECTION EVENT.
UH, WE PARTNER IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, VEOLIA AND WEST TECH, UH, RECYCLERS, UH, EXCEPT KIND OF A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS FROM PESTICIDES AND OILS TO RANDOM BATTERIES, UH, AND THE LIKE, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, WE HAD THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
SO, UH, SARAH WAS, UH, LEADING, UH, THIS EFFORT.
AND, UH, WE GOT THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS WITH IT, AS WELL AS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF POUNDS OF WASTE COLLECTED AT A SINGLE EVENT.
UH, SO WE HAD 375 PARTICIPANTS IN 2023 FOR THE COLLECTION EVENT IN OCTOBER, UH, ABOUT 12,000 POUNDS, UH, THE ELECTRONICS, 18 OVER 18,000 POUNDS OF, OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.
UH, AND COLLECTIVELY OVER THE FIVE YEARS OF THE PER PROGRAM, UH, ALMOST 60,000 POUNDS OF ELECTRONICS AND JUST ABOUT SIX 59,000 POUNDS OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE HAS BEEN COLLECTED.
UH, AND FROM THE SUCCESS OF THAT EVENT, AS WELL AS, UH, HEARING FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL EVENTS, UH, SARAH, UH, LED THE EFFORTS TO CREATE A LIMITED COLLECTION EVENT, UH, IN APRIL, 2024, RIGHT AROUND, UH, THE, UM, UH, EARTH DAY OR EARTH WEEK, UH, KIND OF CELEBRATIONS.
UH, IT WAS HELD IN THE WEST, AT WEST SEDONA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, WE PARTNERED, UH, WITH WEST TECH, AGAIN, ASSURED DOCUMENT DESTRUCTION, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, BUYING THESE, UH, WE PURCHASED THESE MAIL BACK BATTERY RECYCLING KITS.
AND, UH, FROM THAT EFFORT, UH, OVER 9,000 POUNDS WERE COLLECTED.
UH, 500 POUNDS OF IT WERE JUST, UH, BUNCH OF BATTERIES.
WE, UH, ACCEPTED, UH, WE HAD ABOUT 200, UH, PARTICIPANTS, UH, THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE SUCCESS, UH, OF THAT EVENT AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT SARAH, UH, PUT INTO, UH, CREATING BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS.
PETE, UH, I WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO, UH, THE JUNE 15TH EVENT.
YOU GUYS CARE TO PLUG THAT ONE WHILE WE'RE ALL HERE? UH, YEAH, GREAT POINT.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
SO, UH, WE'VE AL ALSO PARTNERED WITH, UH, COCONINO COUNTY TO OFFER AN ADDITIONAL, UH, EVENT.
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SO, UH, SEDONA RESIDENTS, UH, CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE JUNE 15TH EVENT.UH, THEY'LL BE UP BY THE MUN PARK AREA, UH, FOR, UH, ANOTHER ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLD OR ADDITIONAL WASTE COLLECTION, UH, EFFORTS, UH, AS WELL.
SO WE'RE, UH, EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH, UH, COCONINO COUNTY TO HELP EXPAND WASTE, UH, DIVERSION OPTIONS, UH, FOR SEDONA RESIDENTS.
AND I HAD A NEIGHBOR JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS THE WAY, THE WAY IT WAS WORDED.
IS IT ALL OF CITY, CITY OF SEDONA RESIDENTS AND UNINCORPORATED COCO? SO IF YOU'RE YAVAPAI CITY, YOU CAN STILL GO TO THAT EVENT.
IF YOU'RE A CITY OF SEDONA RESIDENT, YOU CAN, CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT EVENT.
COCONINO, VOC, UH, RATHER, YVOC CANNOT.
SO IF THEY'RE IN THE VOC AND NOT CITY OF SEDONA, UH, THEY WON'T WON.
AND THAT'S, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I, UH, AND SO ONE MORE TO HIGHLIGHT OF, OH, VICE VICE SMITH.
I'M GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THIS, BUT GO AHEAD.
UH, SO SARAH WAS ALSO, UH, LEADING THIS EFFORT AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
SO AS A COMPONENT THAT WE, UH, WE'RE RECOGNIZING WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND EDUCATIONAL, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.
SO, UH, SARAH, UH, HAS LED THE EFFORTS TO, UH, DEVELOP, UH, UH, ASSIST EDUCATORS WITH TEACHING GREAT IDEA STUDENTS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, UH, RELATED TOPICS.
UH, SO SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT, UH, ARE ADDITIONAL PRESENTATIONS, POSSIBLE FIELD TRIPS, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, TYING INTO STEM CURRICULUM, UH, WITH THE ASPECT OF CONNECTING SCHOOL LEADERSHIP AND FACULTY TO ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
UH, AND SO, UM, SOME OF THE INITIAL ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN FROM, UH, EARLY FEBRUARY TO, UH, THROUGH MAY HERE, UH, SARAH'S BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, WITH SCHOOLS TO CREATE A CLIMATE ACTION ARTWORK PROJECT.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE, UH, THE ARTWORK THAT WAS CREATED OUT OF THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THAT ON THE RECEPTACLES, UH, THAT, UH, WERE PROCURING FOR THE, UH, RECYCLING RECEPTACLES FOR A DEQ.
UH, AS WELL AS, UH, IN MARCH OF 2024, UH, WASTEWATER, UH, HAD A PRESENTATION.
THAT'S THE PICTURE IN THE UPPER RIGHT, UH, THAT'S KELLY AND ROXANNE, UH, FROM THE WASTEWATER TEAM, UH, PRESENTING ABOUT ALL THE, THE, THE BUGS IN THE WASTEWATER THAT HELP, UH, HELP BREAK DOWN ALL OF THE WASTEWATER, UH, AND TREAT THE EFFLUENT, UH, FROM THAT COMPONENT.
SO IT WAS REALLY, UH, COOL TO SEE THAT ENGAGEMENT WITHIN THE SCHOOLS.
UH, AND THEN, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND ALSO HERE IN MAY, UH, WAS LEADING A DARK SKY SYMPOSIUM, UH, FOR FIFTH GRADERS.
AND WE'VE, UH, HELPED CONNECT THE, UH, SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS FROM, NOT ONLY FROM OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO CONNECT THE SCHOOLS WITH OAK CREEK, UH, WATERSHED COUNCIL, SEDONA FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THE LIKE, TO REALLY TRY TO BUILD, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL EDUCATION EFFORTS WITHIN THAT.
UH, WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CHATS WITH, UH, RO LUKA AND THE ARIZONA WATER COMPANY TEAM, AND HOW WE CAN BUILD IN LIKE A, A WATER FESTIVAL FOR SCHOOLS, UH, AND DIDN'T BUILD ADDITIONAL LIKE STEM EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THAT AS WELL.
SO, UH, JUST STARTED THIS PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE CONNECTIONS IN BUILDING WITH THE, THE SCHOOL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. FABULOUS IDEA.
SO, VICE, MAY YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ASK? YEAH, WELL, NO, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THERE, THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE YOUNG ARTISTS AND AUTHORS SHOWCASE.
IT'S AN ANNUAL CONTEST FOR KIDS 13 TO 18, AND IT'S GLOBAL.
AND, UH, IT'S, EXCUSE ME, IT'S A THEME THIS YEAR WAS CLIMATE SCAPE RESILIENT CITIES FOR TOMORROW'S CLIMATE.
AND ONE OF THE STUDENTS AT RED ROCKS HIGH SCHOOL ENTERED INTO THE COMPETITION, WHICH IS STILL GOING ON.
AND SHE WROTE A POEM, OH YEAH.
I'M GONNA SEND IT TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND PERHAPS WE CAN WEAVE IT IN SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, TALK WITH HER BECAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY LOVELY.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S, SHE'S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, AND IT REALLY SPEAKS TO WHAT WE CAN ALL DO TO HELP THIS CAUSE.
AND SHE MAY WIN, WHO KNOWS? AND THEN SHE'D BE A SEDONA STUDENT WHO WON THIS COMPETITION.
AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO, TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
'CAUSE THAT'S A ASPECT THAT WE WANT TO HELP PROMOTE, UH, FURTHER JUST THOSE CONNECTIONS AND ARTS AND THE LIKE.
UH, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THESE ACTIVITIES, ALL SUPER GREAT AND CURIOUS.
I, UH, AS PART OF THE CO PLATEAU WATER PARTNERSHIP, WE ALSO SPONSOR A WATER USE WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM FOR THIRD GRADERS, I THINK IT IS.
IF YOU GUYS AREN'T CONNECTED INTO THAT PROGRAM AND THE EFFORT THAT WE'RE DOING, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, YOU HAVE THAT CONNECTION AND HELP DRIVE THAT INTO OUR SCHOOLS AS WELL.
YEAH, WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO TRY TO CONNECT COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, UH, WITH THESE EDUCATION EFFORTS.
UH, QUICK, BRYCE, HOW RECEPTIVE ARE THE FIFTH GRADERS? DO YOU THINK THAT IT SHOULD GO UP TO THE SIXTH? OR ARE THEY MATURE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE FUN THAT'S GOING ON AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOPIC? UH, I MEAN, FROM, FROM MY, FROM THE FEEDBACK I'VE HEARD FROM SARAH, I MEAN, WE, WE'VE
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EVEN HAD LIKE KINDERGARTNERS ASK ABOUT LIKE, LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE AND LIKE, THAT'S HAPPENING.AND LIKE, UH, I THINK, I THINK EVERY, EVERY STUDENT, EVERY AGE GROUP, UH, WE CAN TAILOR EDUCATION AND MESSAGING, UH, TO, TO TRY TO MATCH WHAT THE EDUCATORS ARE LOOKING FOR.
IF WE CAN WRAP IT UP WITHIN 20 MINUTES.
WE GOT, UH, FIVE MORE SLIDES, ONE WITH A THANK YOU SLIDE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES, UH, TO COVER ON SUSTAINABILITY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, THAT, TO HIGHLIGHT ALL THE EFFORTS, UH, SOME OF THE EFFORTS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ACROSS, UH, ALL OF OUR, UH, RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITH THIS.
SO, UH, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, WE PARTICIPATED IN A GROWING WATER SMART WORKSHOP.
UH, IT WAS HOSTED BY THE SONORAN INSTITUTE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, OURSELVES AND SUSTAINABILITY IN THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, UH, ATTENDED THE EVENT.
UH, WE EXPLORED ASPECTS OF WHAT WE CAN DO FOR, UH, CODE UPDATES, UH, EFFLUENT REUSE, UH, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, UH, HAD SOME OF THOSE LIKE LARGE SCALE CONVERSATIONS, WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO IT'S A ONGOING, UH, PIECE, UH, FROM THAT.
BUT, UH, WITH, UH, WASTEWATER APPLIED ADDITIONALLY FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE GRANT, UM, THAT WOULD, UH, TRY TO IDENT, UH, PULL IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO TRACK WHAT WE COULD DO POTENTIALLY DO WITH, UH, THE EFFLUENT LINE OF EFFORT, GOD, IF WE GOT A STATUS UPDATE ON THAT GRANT APPLICATION.
UH, BUT, UH, IT ALSO EXPANDS OUR COLLABORATION WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY.
UH, AND SO WE'VE, UH, CONTINUED, UH, THE CONVERSATIONS FROM THE RIPPLE EFFECT EFFORTS, UH, TO CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT DATA WOULD CONVERGE TOGETHER, UM, AND BE ABLE TO KIND OF WORK OFF OF, OFF OF THAT AND BUILD TO THAT.
SO I'M HOPEFUL WE, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, CONVERSATION, PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON, UH, KIND OF THE FRUITS OF THAT WORKSHOP AND THE CONTINUED, UH, COLLABORATION WITHIN IT.
UH, WITH THE UPTOWN, UH, PARKING GARAGE THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED, WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE, UH, REALLY, UH, REALLY COOL SUSTAINABILITY ELEMENTS TO IT.
AS ZACH MENTIONED, THE DC FAST CHARGERS THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED WITH LIKE BY AMERICA, ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS TO, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT, UH, THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WAS A COMPONENT THAT'S OFTEN FOUND WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN THAT RESIDENTS WERE LOOKING FOR CONGESTION IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE SOLAR INSTALLS.
UM, THE VILLAS ON SHELBY, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE ASPECT OF IMPROVING, UH, HOUSING STOCK WITHIN THE AREA CAN IMPROVE THAT, UH, CLIENT AS HOUSING, AS A CLIMATE ACTION SOLUTION.
IT CAN REDUCE, UH, REGIONAL, UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, AS WELL AS HELP BUILD, UH, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, UH, WITHIN, UH, SEDONA.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ZACH TO COVER THE LAST TWO SLIDES.
UM, SO YEAH, JUST A COUPLE MORE, UH, EXAMPLES OF, UH, SUSTAINABILITY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, UM, FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, WE HAVE THE RANGERS STATION, UM, AS JUST ONE OF THE, ONE EXAMPLE OF A, OF A COUPLE.
UM, BUT, UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOME GREAT WORK, UH, INSTALLING A LOT OF SUSTAINABILITY, UH, ASPECTS AND VARIABLES TO THE PROJECT, UH, TO MAKE IT OVERALL MORE SUSTAINABLE.
SO SOME EXAMPLES ARE, UH, USING DECOMPOSED GRANITE, UM, AND GRAVEL, UH, FOR, UH, THEIR PARKING LOTS AND EXPANDING THEIR SHARED USE PATHS, WHICH ARE ALSO MADE OF, UH, GRAVEL, UH, AND GRANITE INSTEAD OF, UM, UH, CONCRETE, SO, UH, AT CONCRETE AND ASPHALT.
SO THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF, UM, EXTRA MATERIALS, UM, THAT, UH, ARE CARBON INTENSIVE FOR, FOR THE CONCRETE.
AND THEN FOR ASPHALT, UH, IS ALSO REALLY, UH, NOT THE BEST MATERIAL TO BE USING IF WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, REDUCE OUR URBAN HEAT ISLAND.
UM, AND THEN THEY'VE BEEN PLANTING A LOT OF NATIVE AND DROUGHT TOLERANT SPECIES AROUND, UH, THE, THE PARK.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THEIR PLAYGROUND IS, UH, MOSTLY MADE OF WOOD INSTEAD OF, UH, PLASTIC.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT AS WELL.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY YARD WASTE COLLECTION PROGRAM, THAT'S BEEN A REALLY IMPACTFUL AND SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THAT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, IS ALSO RUNNING.
UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, THIS YEAR DIVERTED OVER, UH, 500,000 POUNDS OF YARD WASTE.
UM, AND, UH, BASED OFF OF THOSE NUMBERS, WE'VE AVOIDED APPROXIMATELY 40 METRIC TONS OF EMISSIONS, HAD ALL THAT WASTE GONE TO THE LANDFILL TO DECOMPOSE.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THIS PROGRAM'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF REDUCING THE CITY'S RISK TO, UH, WILDFIRES SPREADING THROUGH TOWN.
SO WE'RE REALLY COLLECTING A LOT OF THAT, UH, REALLY DRY DEAD WOOD, UH, AROUND TOWN.
UM, SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT PROGRAM AS WELL.
AND THEN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, FOR THEIR FIRST TIME.
UH, THEY ARE, THEY NOW HAVE A SECTION FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY.
UH, THEY HAD ENVIRONMENT BEFORE, BUT, UH, WE'VE NOW ADDED THE SUSTAINABILITY SECTION, WHICH, UH, THEY ADDED WITH OUR COLLABORATION.
UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST FOUR MORE EXAMPLES.
UH, PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN, UM, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, UH, PROTECTING, UH, OUR WASTE, OR I'M SORRY, PROTECTING OUR, UH, WATERWAYS, UH, IN SEDONA BY INSTALLING DOZENS OF, UM, UH, PET WASTE STATIONS AROUND TOWN.
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AND THOSE PET WASTE STATIONS BY THEMSELVES HAVE THIS YEAR ALONE, UM, COLLECTED 5,200 POUNDS OF PET WASTE, UM, WHICH WOULD'VE OTHERWISE, UM, POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE, UH, ENTERED INTO OUR, UH, UH, OUR RIVERS, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMMING.UM, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, UH, WITH BUILDING COMMUNITY AND RESILIENCY CONNECTIONS, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO, UH, HAVE FUN WITH EACH OTHER AND, UM, UH, JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME AND GET OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
UM, THEY'VE, UH, MADE A, A SWITCH, A TRANSITION, UM, RECENTLY WHERE THEY MADE ALL OF OUR PUBLIC, UH, EVENTS, UM, UH, FREE.
SO WE'RE REMOVING THAT FINANCIAL BARRIER SO THAT EVERYBODY, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR INCOME IS OR SITUATION IS, CAN, CAN HAVE FUN AND, UH, ENGAGE WITH THEIR, THEIR, THEIR NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND THEN, LIKE WE'VE NOTED ALREADY, UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US HAND IN HAND, UH, TO REDUCE THEIR, THE WASTE THAT'S PRODUCED IN THEIR, AT THEIR EVENTS.
AND THEN, UH, LOCAL GRAVEL FOR PARKS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN.
UM, THERE WAS A PRETTY MASSIVE PROJECT THAT WAS DONE, UM, WHERE WE COLLECTED, UH, ALL THE GRAVEL OR, OR BOULDERS AND ROCKS FROM, UH, OTHER PROJECTS AROUND TOWN, UH, BROUGHT THEM TO A SINGLE LOCATION AND, UH, WE GROUND THEM UP AND TURNED THEM INTO, UM, USABLE MATERIAL.
SO WE REUSED A LOT OF THAT MATERIAL.
ABOUT 42,000 CUBIC YARDS OF MATERIAL WAS SAVED LOCALLY, AND THAT SAVED US ABOUT, UH, $1.3 MILLION.
UM, SO THAT MATERIAL OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, TRANSPORTED FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY.
SO WE'RE USING, UH, WE REUSING A LOT OF THAT MATERIAL, AND WE'VE SAVED A LOT OF, UH, EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH MATERIAL TRANSPORTATION.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS BEEN WORKING TO TRY AND BRING ON BOARD MORE SOFTWARE PLATFORMS THAT ALLOW US TO, UH, ELIMINATE OUR DEPENDENCY ON A LOT OF OUR PAPER PROCESSING.
UM, SO THEY'VE, UH, RECENTLY BROUGHT ON, UM, A, A PROGRAM THAT HAS ALLOWED THEM TO, UH, ALREADY, UM, AVOID THE USE OF 22,000 PAGES.
UH, IT'S NOT 22, SORRY, 2200 PAGES OF PAPER.
UM, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT ON JUST VERY RECENTLY.
UM, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BRING ON MORE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
THIS WAS A TERRIFIC PRESENTATION, AND YOU GUYS JUST CONTINUE TO WORK ABOVE YOUR WEIGHT.
I MEAN, SMALL DEPARTMENT DOES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT, SO THANK YOU.
UH, WHEN YOU CHOOSE THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INITIATE AND, AND SUPPORT, DO YOU DO THE LOW HANGING FRUIT OR DO YOU TRY TO DO THINGS THAT HAVE THE MOST IMPACT? AND MAYBE THEY'RE THE SAME THING? UH, I FEEL LIKE WE TRY TO STRIKE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BALANCE, UH, WITH IT.
UM, SOME OF THE ASPECTS IS JUST WHICH ONES CAN WE GET EFFECTIVELY LAUNCHED? UH, BUT THEN FOR THE LARGER ONES, SAY WITH THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR LIKE WE TRIED TO, THOSE ONES ARE LARGER TASKS FOR US.
WE TRIED TO BUILD IN THOSE INITIATIVES, BUT WE, WE TRY TO TIE 'EM ALL BACK INTO HOW THEY, HOW THEY'RE IMPACTED OR HOW THEY ARE SUPPORTED BY A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, TO GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION ABOUT 2030 AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T ACHIEVE, ARE THERE THINGS YOU COULD DO THAT HAVE A, A LARGER IMPACT, BUT YOU'RE SOMEHOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR THEM, OR THERE'S AN OBSTACLE IN YOUR WAY THAT WE COULD HELP YOU TO REMOVE? UH, SO, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT ON LIKE THE ELECTRICITY COMPONENTS AND HOW WE NEED, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, RESOURCES OR HELP, UH, AT THE KIND OF THE STATE LOCAL LEVEL WITHIN THAT, UH, FOR THE COMPONENT OF, OF THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK IT'S A, A LITTLE BIT OF JUST GETTING, UH, KIND OF TWOFOLD TO JUST US BEING ABLE TO GET OUT THERE MORE OFTEN WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, TO GET 'EM ENGAGED AND CONNECTED WITH THESE PROGRAMS. AND SO PART OF THAT IS JUST, UH, FROM THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS NETWORK PIECE WHERE, UH, AS, UH, AS SOME OF THE COUNSELORS ARE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT OR WHATNOT, CAN ACT AS KIND OF THAT, THE FACILITATOR FOR US AS, AS THAT VOICE OF, UH, OF SUPPORT FOR THEM.
UH, SO I'D SAY, I MEAN, SINCE, SINCE I'VE STARTED HERE, COUNCIL'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF OUR, UH, ALL OF OUR EFFORTS THAT WE'VE, UH, PROPOSED.
UH, AND SO AT THE, AT THE MOMENT, I'D SAY THOSE ARE KIND OF LIKE THE TWO MAIN PIECES, JUST CONTINUING TO BE A, A VOICE FOR US FOR OUR, FOR OUR RESPECTIVE EFFORTS, UH, AND THEN HELPING US WITH, UH, THOSE COMPONENTS OF, UH, OF ENGAGING WITH LIKE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE LIKE, UH, FOR THOSE THINGS ARE HARDER FOR US TO IMPLEMENT.
SO MAYBE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO A SESSION ON THAT, NOT SURE WHEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL, MAYBE IT'S DURING OUR PRIORITIES, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS, IF WE CAN BE AN AMBASSADOR, IF WE CAN HELP SUPPORT THESE INITIATIVES, THESE TWO COUNSELORS,
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WE'RE A PART OF THE HEAT MAPPING PROJECT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE WILLING TO DO THESE THINGS IF WE, IF YOU ASK US TO DO THEM.SO THROUGH ANNETTE, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALERT US AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN HER SPARE TIME.
NO, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST EVERYDAY UNDERSTAND OPERATION, UNDERSTAND, I JUST KNOW HOW, HOW BUSY AND THAT IS.
SO GETTING UP, GETTING UP TO SPEED.
SO, UH, KATHY OR JESSICA? WHICH ONE? KATHY.
YEAH, I, I, I ECHO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE GREAT PROGRAMS. I'M REALLY SO IMPRESSED.
THEY HELP THE ENVIRONMENT, THEY BUILD COMMUNITY, THEY EDUCATE, THEY, UM, HELP ESTABLISH COLLABORATION BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND CITIZENRY.
I AM VERY GRATEFUL AND IMPRESSED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THOSE EFFORTS.
AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS BACK WHERE WE SORT OF STARTED THIS, IT'S ABOUT REACHING THE GOALS FOR REDUCTION OF THE EMISSIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG, THE BIG KAHUNA SO TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HANGING OVER OUR HEADS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T SET THE EXAMPLE AS A MUNICIPALITY, HOW CAN WE EXPECT THAT FROM OUR COMMUNITY? IF SEDONA CAN'T DO IT, WHY WOULD OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES IN THE VERDE VALLEY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, IT'S THE DOMINOES, RIGHT? WE'RE PART OF A GREATER PICTURE.
SO THAT IS, THAT'S THE ONLY THING IS, AGAIN, TRYING TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO ACTUALLY, WHERE WE CAN GO AFTER THAT CARBON EMISSIONS REDUCTION TO GET, AT LEAST WHEN WE STILL, NOT CHANGING THE GOAL AGAIN, AS WE SAID, BUT WHEN WE CAN AT LEAST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE AT 8% OF A 50% GOAL, BUT BASED ON THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE THINK THAT WE WILL REALLY BE AT X PERCENT BY 2026, BY 2028 BY, YOU KNOW, I'D, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT SOME POINT AND IDENTIFY WAYS AND TO DO THAT.
AND IT'S GONNA BE FINANCIAL IMPACT, BECAUSE IT IS GONNA HAVE TO DO WITH, WITH EQUIPMENT AND FLEET AND OPERATIONS, AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND PARK BUILDING.
I MEAN, SO I, I, I LOVE THE PROGRAMS. I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE PROGRAMS. THEY'RE GREAT PROGRAMS, BUT I, I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO FOCUS ON SOME OF THAT TO GET THE REALITY OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE AND HOW WE CAN GET BETTER IN ACHIEVING OUR INSPIR ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.
I, I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE, THE, AND CONGRATULATE THE EFFORTS OF A VERY SMALL TEAM AND PROGRESS THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
UH, I WAS GONNA CIRCLE BACK TOO, AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT ASPIRATIONAL AND INSPIRATIONAL GOALS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, AND I, FOR ONE, UM, BELIEVE TO BE INSPIRATIONAL.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, A GOOD WAY TO DO THAT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA INSPIRE OTHERS IS TO, IS TO, UH, GET YOUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER, CLEAN YOUR ROOM FIRST.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WITH THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS IN THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A, A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO START IS GETTING OUR HOUSE IN ORDER.
AND THAT'S THE WAY TO BE INSPIRATIONAL TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S DIFFICULT WORK, RIGHT? THERE'S FACTORS THAT ARE WAY BEYOND OUR CONTROL, LIKE A PS AND THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND, UH, TOURISM, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL.
SO I THINK THAT'S BEEN A GREAT EFFORT AND I LOVE THOSE PROGRAMS AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SEE US REALLY CONTINUE AND FOCUS ON THOSE.
THE THING THAT IMPRESSED ME THE MOST, BECAUSE I, I TOO AM IMPRESSED BY, BY THE AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT YOU GUYS DO, THE 12 OF YOU THAT ARE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT,
UM, BUT I WANNA SAY WHAT REALLY, WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME WAS THE LEVEL OF, OF NETWORKING AND PARTNERSHIP BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS ARE INVOLVED IN.
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK IN THE END THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO GET US TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL, UM, IS, IS CREATING AN ENTITY OR AN INTEREST GROUP OR A, AN IMPETUS THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO OVERCOME OBSTACLES THAT SOME OF US, UH, ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL CAN'T DO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M MOSTLY IMPRESSED WITH AND WHAT I, WHAT I THINK IS REALLY KIND OF INSPIRING ABOUT, ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING.
ANYTHING TO ADD? IF IT, IF THERE'S NOTHING TO ADD, THEN THAT'S FINE, BUT YEAH, I, ALL THE GOOD THINGS
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THAT THEY SAID, DITTO.UM, I, I, I DO THINK THAT REACHING OUT TO SOME OF THE OTHER HOAS WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT IN THE SUSTAINABILITY NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY AREN'T USUALLY AS ORGANIZED, UM, AS LESS SPRINGS.
THEY AREN'T RUN WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OVER AND SO ON.
AND I HOPE YOU DON'T FIND THAT A DETERRENT TO CONTINUING TO, UM, PLUG THIS PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW THAT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT RESILIENT COMMUNITIES ARE BASED ON PEOPLE.
THEY'RE NOT JUST BASED ON CUTTING DOWN CARBON EMISSIONS OR RUNNING WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
ALL THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT RESILIENCE ENDS UP BEING ABOUT PEOPLE HELPING TO NOT ONLY MODIFY THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT TO COMMIT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
BRIAN, ANYTHING TO ADD? NOTHING TO ADD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREPARATION TODAY.
UM, SO ASIDE FROM MY ISSUE WITH THE POLICE, YOU POLICE CARS, UH, YOU THREE, FOUR WITH SARAH SHOULD BE SO PROUD OF THE, OF YOURSELF AND WHERE YOU CAME.
THIS IS, I CONSIDER YOU TO BE THE THIRD ITERATION OF THE DEPARTMENT AND WE NEVER HAD THE OUTREACH THAT YOU, YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
YOU HAVE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB FROM KIDS TO HOAS, WHICH HOAS RARELY EVER WANNA GET INVOLVED IN, IN MUCH AS A GROUP TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET MORE HOAS.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, MELISSA.
I THINK THEY CAN DO IT AND I THINK ONCE PEOPLE LIKE JOE MARTIN GET OUT THERE AND START PROMOTING IT, I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'LL COME TO BE, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE COME TO BE IF YOU THREE FOUR HADN'T REALLY PUSHED THE ENVELOPE.
AND YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOURSELF.
I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
THIS IS A REMARKABLE PRESENTATION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE IT WAS VERY FLATTENED, IT WAS VERY HIGH LEVEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT REACHING THAT GOAL.
YOU'RE EDUCATING PEOPLE, YOU'RE BRINGING, YOU'RE MAKING THE AWARENESS TO A, A STREET LEVEL WHERE PEOPLE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND AND CHILDREN SO IMPRESSIVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADD? JUST WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PUMPKINS AFTER THE PUMPKIN SPLASH.
NO, REALLY WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PUMPKINS? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
UH, THE ONES THAT ARE NOT PAINTED LATER, UM, GET COMPOSTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO THEY GET, OKAY.
WE HAVE ANOTHER VERY LENGTHY TOPIC NEXT.
IF YOU WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE NEXT TWO OR THREE HOURS, BUT, UH,
[3.b. Discussion/possible action regarding ideas for future meetings/agenda items.]
ITEM THREE B PLEASE.ITEM THREE B, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS. ANYTHING.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S QUICK.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRESSURE THAT WE FELT TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT ONLY TODAY WE'VE DONE THIS.
WHEN WE DO WORK SESSIONS, GENERALLY WE FIND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONSTRAIN THEM INTO TWO HOURS AND THESE ARE OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEEP DIVE ON ISSUES.
SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN REEVALUATE HOW WE APPROACH, UM, WORK SESSIONS AND THE TIMING OF THEM.
SO THAT'S A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
THAT'S SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION THERE.
UH, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE OF OPEN THE MEETINGS LAW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, TO TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
AND WHAT'S THE MATTER? NO, GO AHEAD.
TO, AND, AND, AND VET ISSUES OTHER THAN THE WORK SESSION IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
SO I'M WONDERING HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT GOING FORWARD AND MAYBE WE NEED TO REEVALUATE.
I THINK THAT COULD BE, FIRST OF ALL, WE CAN'T REALLY GO INTO DETAIL, BUT IT'LL COME TO THE ATTENTION OF THE AGENDA SETTING TEAM.
AND ANNETTE, YOU WANNA APPLY ON IT? WELL, I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, THIS BIG ASSUMPTION, BUT THAT THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF YOUR OPERATING AGREEMENTS, GOVERNANCE MANUAL, HOW YOUR MEETINGS ARE STRUCTURED.
THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS AND UM, STILL HERE.
I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT.
WELL, THE PRIORITY SETTING, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THEN EXACTLY LIKE HOW YOUR MEETING, MEETING MEETINGS ARE RUN, MEETING HOW THEY'RE STRUCTURED.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT IT BE DONE THAT WAY.
DID YOU WANNA SUPPORT THAT CONVERSATION THEN? OKAY, WELL WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
WE'LL BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT AGENDA.
SO, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S AN AGENDA SETTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING.
WHAT I THINK PETE JUST EXPRESSED SUPPORT WAS THAT WE HAVE A WAY OF DISCUSSING IT.
WELL THEN WE WILL BRING IT UP IN A FUTURE ITEM.
HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH WE CAN FIND SOME.
JESSICA, ANNETTE JUST SUGGESTED YOU DO IT AS YOUR PRIORITY SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO DO IT BEFORE THEN BECAUSE THE PRIORITY SETTING WOULD BE MORE, UH, LATER ON THE YEAR.
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SO I WOULD THAT'S THAT'S FINE.IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO DISCUSS IT NOW.
IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BRING IT FORWARD.
BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT IT, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ANNETTE HAS IT.
SO WE WILL BRING UP, SO WE DO HAVE A
[Additional Item]
CARD.SO WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC SESSION, UH, SESSION.
STEVE, YOU WANT TO STA START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.
YOU HAVE THE THREE MINUTES BEFORE WE END THE MEETING.
STEVE SCH SLEEVE, CITY OF SEDONA.
AND I'LL TAKE JUST 30 SECONDS TO SAY THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'M, I'VE LEARNED A LOT HERE, ESPECIALLY TO BRYON AND ZACH.
AND, UH, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I'LL, I'LL TRY TO, I'LL PUT THOSE INTO AN EMAIL TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY PERHAPS WITH DIFFERENT COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT AND TRUST THAT YOU'LL AT LEAST READ IT.
IF YOU DON'T REPLY, I'LL UNDERSTAND.
[5. ADJOURNMENT]
UH, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.YOU DON'T WANNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I'VE BEEN WAITING.
WELL, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO OPINE ON SOMETHING.