* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] THIS [Small Grants Program Committee on June 5, 2024] IS THE START OF THE SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5TH, 2024. PRESENT ARE STEPHANIE RECHT, COMMITTEE CHAIR. CHRISTINE SIDWAY, COMMITTEE MEMBER PATTY RESCUE COMMITTEE MEMBER DEAN GAIN COMMITTEE MEMBER, AND ED SOUTHWELL, COMMITTEE MEMBER THERESA ARTHUR IS THE LIAISON FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA. NOW WE'RE SET. OKAY. COUNCIL ABOUT MY PROGRAM LAST WEEK. WE'VE TAKEN HOURS. YEAH. EVERY, ACTUALLY, OUR OLDER DOG WAS SINCE PASSED AND OSO TO, THEY OFFERED ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR HATCH. I WAS VERY GRATEFUL THAT I NOTICED THIS GUY CHARGES, LIKE HE'S GOT LIVE SNAKES THERE AND HE PUTS A SHOT COLLAR ON. SO, YEAH. SHE'S NOT A VERY BIG, I DO THINK THERE'S SOME SPECIAL WELL ADJUST. YOU CAN'T GET AWAY. THAT'S RIGHT. I FEEL VERY, VERY FORTUNATE. SO WITHOUT MY GLASSES, IT'S NICE TO SEE THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN. OH, IT IS. IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY NICE. YEAH. AND HE EXPLAINED A HUNDRED THOUSAND. I CALLED RED ROCK STATE PARK. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL MAYBE HE'S GETTING EM ALL FROM THERE AND LAUGHED. THEY SAID, WELL, SHOULD WE SEE 85 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR AT OUR PARK LOT? I SAID, OKAY. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU IT'S A TOUGH ONE. YEAH. IF YOU ATTEND SOMETHING YOU MAY, MAY NOT TAKE. RIGHT. IT'S PRETTY BIG. RIGHT. EVEN THERE'S THE, HOW MANY ARE SEDONA PEOPLE VERSUS I KNOW, THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION. DIFFERENT ON THAT ONE. WELL IF YOU COULD, IF YOU BUILD, JOT DOWN LIKE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO NEXT YEAR IS MAYBE WHEN WE HOLD THE SMALL GRANTS WORKSHOP, WE CAN TALK ABOUT BEST PRACTICES AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE TROUBLE ANSWERING TODAY. UM, EVEN BEFORE THEY COME TO THE WORKSHOP, THERE CAN BE SOME NOTES ON THE APPLICATION JUST SAYING, HERE'S AN EXTRA PAGE OF BEST PRACTICES. AND THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TROUBLE ANSWERING. AND THEN WE CAN JUST GIVE THEM A LITTLE EXTRA BOOST FROM DAY ONE. IS THE WORKSHOP MANDATORY? IT HASN'T BEEN. UM, BUT WE COULD MAYBE IT COULD BE. WE COULD BE, YEAH. CUT DOWN FROM 31 TO 28 WOULD BE NICE. . YEAH. WELL, AND OH NO, WE WANT AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. WE WANT TO SEND THE, HE WAS STACKING THE DECK NOW THAT I'VE EDUCATED 1100 SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS FOR THE LAST YEAR. OH, . I THINK I CAN, UM, ASSIST WITH EDUCATING THE SMALL BRANDS PEOPLE. WOW. JUST SOME BEST PRACTICES THINGS, EVEN IF WE GOT IT ON THE WEBSITE, SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT FILLING OUT THEIR APPLICATIONS, I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S SOME KIDS COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, IT'S MANDATORY AND THEY ALL RECEIVE 60 OR SO APPLICATIONS. WELL, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON THE, UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WELL IT WOULD HELP WITH SOME, MAYBE SOME OF THESE ISSUES, BUT, MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, EVEN UNLESS THE USUAL SUSPECTS, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT WE APPLY EVERY YEAR RIGHT. HAVE IT PRETTY DIALED IN. BUT THEY WERE THE MOST EGREGIOUSLY. MM-HMM. . THEY WERE, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT, THAT, THAT MISSED OUT. THAT MISSED A LOT OF STUFF. MM-HMM. . BECAUSE WHAT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CUTTING AND PASTING FROM PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS. MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S FINE. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I SHOULD BRING UP IN THE WORKSHOP. BUT THIS YEAR IT WAS, IT WAS VERY APPARENT. THERE WAS A LOT OF CUS CUTTING AND PASTING GOING ON FROM PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS. AND THERE WERE, THERE WAS CONFLICTING INFORMATION AND ALSO IN SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WERE MISSING THINGS 'CAUSE THEY GET SO USED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTING THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER. AND WE DO CHANGE, LIKE THIS YEAR, THE WHOLE, WELL THE NINE 90 THING CAME UP AT THE END, AT THE, UM, END. BUT I KNOW THERE WERE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF APPLICATIONS THAT HAD DIFFERENT NUMBERS. LIKE FROM LAST YEAR THEY'RE SAYING WE WANTED 28,000 AND YET THEY, THEY WERE WANTING THIS YEAR THEY WERE 33 MM-HMM. . UM, BUT 'CAUSE THEY CUT AND PASTED FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. I MISSED THAT. MM-HMM. WELL THAT WAS, CHRISTINE CAUGHT THAT AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER, THE OTHER COUPLE OF DISCREPANCIES. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF [00:05:01] THE THINGS THAT'S HAP THAT'S HAPPENING. TWO MINUTE MORNING GUYS. I JUST EMAILED ALL OF YOU SOMETHING FROM, UM, I THINK IT'S BENJAMIN LEE FROM VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL. OKAY. AND HE HAD RESPONDED TO A QUESTION AND HE JUST ANSWERED ME THIS MORNING. AND I KNOW CHRISTINE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT MANZANITA AND I DON'T KNOW IF I FORWARDED EVERYBODY THAT EMAIL FROM BEN, HE HAD CLARIFIED THE NUMBERS. SO I'LL LOOK FOR THAT IN MY EMAIL AND SEND THAT TO YOU. YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK DISCUSSION GROUP, WELL I SENT THIS ONE TO YOU PERSONALLY. PERSONALLY. YEAH. THE VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL QUESTION I THINK WAS MINE. AND I, I HAVE A TOTAL BLANK ON MY MATRIX FOR THEM UNTIL I GOT ANSWER QUESTION. YEAH, NO. SO I JUST SENT YOU THE ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION IN YOUR, LET'S MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT THAT BEFORE THE STATEMENT HE COMES IN. YEAH. AND I'LL GET YOU, UM, BEN'S ANSWER. 'CAUSE HE HAD CLARIFIED HIS NUMBER, SPEAKING OF CUTTING AND PASTING. SO LET ME GO GET OUR, HERE IT IS. IT'S THE REVEREND, I THINK HE'S A REVEREND. THAT WAS THE ONE THAT ALSO HAD TRAVEL TRAINING IN IT. YEAH. AND HE'S COMING FROM, UM, LAS VEGAS. I'M SURE IT'S FROM LAS VEGAS. SURE. MM-HMM. . GOOD MORNING. GOOD, GOOD MORNING. YEAH. HI REVEREND, HOW ARE YOU? OKAY. RIGHT HERE. DID YOU HAVE A SAFE TRIP OVER? OH YEAH, WE DID. YESTERDAY WAS A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE, LIKE ALWAYS. YEAH. GOOD. OKAY. PANEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PANEL FIRST AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE MYSELF. SO YOU GUYS GO AHEAD. SHOOT AWAY. SO LAST YEAR YOU DISTRIBUTED HOW MANY BACKPACKS? 120. 120. AND HOW MANY COULD YOU HAVE DISTRIBUTED IF YOU'D HAD? I THINK WE WERE RIGHT ON TARGET, UH, LAST YEAR BY BEING THE VERY FIRST EVENT, UH, WE WAS, WE ESTIMATED ABOUT MAYBE 120, MAYBE 200. UH, THE FIRST EVENT IS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT, UH, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO HOW, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH A NUMBER THIS YEAR THAT YOU, WE TURNED BASED ON THE PARTICIPATION AND THE INPUT THAT WE GOT FROM LAST YEAR, AND BASED ON OUR MARKETING STRATEGY AND THE CANVASSING WITH THE RED ROCK NEWSPAPER, AS WELL AS THE, UH, WYNDHAM, UH, A LOT OF, UH, CANVASSING. SO THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH THIS YEAR. WE MIGHT HAVE A, A GREATER PARTICIPATION. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE BACKPACKS LAST MORE THAN A YEAR AND YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN OUT 120 LAST YEAR. YES. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET. MM-HMM. FOR THE PROGRAM. AND WAS WONDERING, UM, YOU HAVE $800 ON YOUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING. YES, MA'AM. AND WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT FOR? THE $800 IN TRAVEL AND TRAINING, UH, IS FOR PERTAINING TO ALL OF THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE SCHOOL SUPPLY EXAMPLE, WE BOUGHT UP A LOT OF SCHOOL SUPPLIES THAT WE ORDER FROM BAGS AND BUCKS, AMAZON GAS EXPENSES. UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPENSES FOR A HOTEL BECAUSE WE USE OUR TIMESHARE. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH COVERS A LOT OF THE COORDINATION OF THE TRAVEL EXPENSES AND STUFF. OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO GET THE SUPPLIES? YEAH. OKAY. IS IT ALSO FUEL TO GET YOU BACK AND FORTH TO YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE KEEP COPIES OF ALL OF OUR RECEIPTS AND EVERYTHING. WE'RE NOT JUST IN CASE. WE JUST WANTED TO SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT. OKAY. AND, UM, YOU HAVE RENT AND UTILITIES. SORRY, I'M SORRY, WHAT'D YOU SAY? YOU HAVE RENT AND UTILITIES IN HERE, SIR. ARE YOU PAYING FOR A LOCATION HERE TO HOLD THE EVENT? YES, MA'AM. UH, BY US BEING, UH, OWNERS OF THE WYNDHAM, WE GET A DISCOUNTED RATE AND FOR THOSE TWO DAYS, THEY ONLY CHARGE US LIKE $300 AND THEY PROVIDE, UH, ONE OR TWO VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US WITH THE EVENT TOO. WOW. WOW. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, THAT'S, UM, VERY CONVENIENT. YES, MA'AM. UM, I THINK ANYBODY ELSE? YOU GUYS GOOD. UM, ON, AND THIS IS PROBABLY JUST AN OVERSIGHT. UM, THE ESTIMATED OF UNDUPLICATED CITY OF SEDONA RESIDENTS SERVED BY THE PROGRAM IN YOUR APPLICATION IS 30, AND YET YOU GIVE OUT LIKE 150 BACKPACKS. SO, UM, JUST BE CAREFUL WITH THAT NUMBER IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS, [00:10:01] IT'S DISCREPANT FROM WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DO. YES, MA'AM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO, UM, AND ALSO, UH, BECAUSE PROBABLY EVEN THOUGH YOU GIVE OUT 150 BACKPACKS OR A HUNDRED, WHATEVER THE NUMBER HAPPENS TO BE, THE IMPACT YOU REALLY HAVE ON THE CITY, BECAUSE THE, THE PARENTS AND WHATNOT THAT YOU'RE HELPING OUT COULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY INCREASES THAT NUMBER OF THE, THE, THE CITY OF SEDONA RESIDENCE THAT YOU IMPACT. OKAY. BECAUSE RESIDENCE ALSO NOW, UH, INCLUDES, UH, PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SEDONA. RIGHT. OKAY. SO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT BECAUSE IT JUST, THERE AGAIN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT KIND OF PINGS WITH US AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND IT, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT YOUR OUTCOME. YES, MA. AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED, UH, LAST YEAR TOO. MM-HMM. BECAUSE WE RECEIVED A LOT OF TELEPHONE CALLS AND SAID, WELL, HEY, UH, I WORK IN SEDONA, BUT I LIVE IN COTTONWOOD, BUT MY CHILDREN ATTEND SEDONA SCHOOL. SCHOOL. RIGHT. WELL, THE, THE CITY EXACTLY. THE CITY HAS RECOGNIZED THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE IMPACT OF THE CITY IS FAR BEYOND JUST THE ACTUAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESIDENTIAL ADDRESSES THERE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A LARGE INDUSTRY OF WORKERS THAT, THAT SUPPORT OUR, THAT SUPPORT OUR CITY. AND THOSE KIDS DO COME TO SCHOOL HERE. MM-HMM. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, THE, I DO HAVE ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, CONSULTANTS AND PROFESSIONAL FEES. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME BACKGROUND INTO THAT? YEAH, WE, WE HAVE OUR OWN IN-HOUSE ATTORNEYS, AND WE PRETTY MUCH GET A LOT OF COUNSELING THROUGH OUR ATTORNEYS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE, WE HAVE OUR ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE SEDONA CONTRACT, THE, UH, GRANT PROCESS OR IF WE NEED ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, INPUT OR, YOU KNOW, DO YOU THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE? SO WE DEPEND ON OUR ATTORNEY TO GIVE US LITTLE GUIDANCE TO HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS $800, SEE THAT THE, UH, $900 THAT YOU HAVE ALLOCATED TO THAT EXPENSE FOR THIS PROGRAM, UH, WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT AS YOUR, OF YOUR TOTAL CO YOUR TOTAL O TOTAL ORGANIZATION PROFESSIONAL FEES, PROFESSIONAL FEES. WE, I, I'LL SAY MAYBE 10% OR MAY, MAYBE LESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BY US HAVING A LARGE ORGANIZATION, WE DONATE SO MUCH OUT OUT OF OUR TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS EVENT IS COORDINATED. MM-HMM. WE CAN NEED 10 TO 15, 20%. SO ACTUALLY YOUR, YOUR ORGANIZATION PROFESSIONAL FEES ARE UP IN THE CLOSE TO $10,000? I DON'T OH, MORE THAN THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE OVERALL. YEAH. YEAH. ALRIGHT, GOOD. I JUST WOULD DIDN'T GO BACK AND COMPARE THAT TO YOUR TOTAL ORGANIZATION BUDGET, SO, GREAT. OKAY. THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. UH, LET'S SEE. THE STILL SCHOOL FLIES. I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS PRETTY GOOD AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? MM-HMM, . ALL RIGHTY. UM, IT IS, SORRY, WE HAVE A CLOCK THAT'S OFF. UM, OH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, THERE WAS MENTION OF 60% OF THE BUDGET IS USED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION PURPOSES. OH, I SEE. WHICH INCLUDES THE RENT UTILITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YOU CERTAINLY GOT GREAT PUBLICITY LAST THIS LAST YEAR, DIDN'T YOU? FROM THE LOCAL YES MA'AM. TEAM PERSON AND THINGS. YES. THAT WAS, UH, AMAZING. IT WAS AMAZING. AND THAT'S WHY THE FIRST EVENT IS MORE LIKE A TEST, THEN YOU COULD KINDA BUDGET AND DETERMINE WHAT IS IS GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT EVENT. AND YOU HAVE TO PREPARE FOR GROWTH. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DO ARE, ARE YOU GONNA DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAT YOU LEARNED OR, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. WELL, WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, UH, BASED ON THE COORDINATION, WE TRIED TO GET OUT AHEAD OF TIME AND START OUR MARKETING. THE EVENT EXAMPLE, THE WAY THE CITY BUDGET IS, WE HAVE TO THREE TO FOUR MONTHS IN ADVANCE START MARKETING, START PUTTING OUT FLYERS, ADVERTISING, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, AND BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH RED ROCK NEWS LAST YEAR, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET OUT AT LEAST TWO, THREE MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME AND START MARKETING. AND BY US BEING MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THEY START PUTTING STUFF OUT. SO IT'S MORE LIKE EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY OR, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE TAKE PLACE. THIS IS A, UH, CITY FUNDING PROJECT. [00:15:01] SO TAKE A ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THE CITY HAS TO OFFER. GOOD JOB. YES. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. WE HAVE GOT HERE TWO MORE MINUTES. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY? UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ? NO. NO. THE ONLY THING THAT I, I I, I WANNA UM, PIGGYBACK OFF THE QUESTION. THIS GENTLEMAN ASKED ABOUT, UH, YOU DID 120 BOOK PACKS AND I THINK YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, DO YOU REALLY NEED 120 THIS YEAR? SO YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY SERVICING THE SAME PEOPLE, BUT IN CONVERSATIONS AND LISTENING TO PARENTS, THOSE BOOK PACKS GET MISUSED AND ABUSE. KIDS WANT NEW ONES. UH, IF THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. SO IF YOU PROBABLY ASK SOME CHILDREN, UM, DO THEY WANT USE THE SAME BOOK, BOOK BAG OR MM-HMM. OR WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY WANT A BETTER ONE. THEY WANT A NEW ONE. SURE. THEY WANNA BE UP TO DATE. SURE. THEY DON'T WANT, JUST LIKE, THEY DON'T WANNA WEAR OLD SHOES OR OLD PANTS OR AN OLD DRESS. THEY WANNA BE UP TO DATE. SO OKAY. WE ANTICIPATE THAT SOME OF THOSE SAME PARENTS WILL BE RIGHT BACK. MM-HMM. , UH, TRYING TO GET, WELL, OF COURSE THE SUPPLIES THAT'S ALWAYS NEEDED. SURE. AND YES, THEY WOULD WANT BACKPACKS AS WELL. AND WHY? ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WE HAVE MET WITH THE, UH, SEDONA CHARTER SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAD A MEETING WITH THE WEST SEDONA HIGH SCHOOL. THEY HAVE ALREADY REQUESTED BETWEEN THOSE TWO SCHOOLS, THEY HAVE ALREADY REQUESTED FOR US TO PRESERVE 50 BACKPACKS. SO THAT'S 50 BACKPACK. THAT'S, AND WHAT WE DOING DIFFERENT THIS YEAR WITH THE MEETING WE HAD WITH THE WEST SEDONA SCHOOL, THEY PROVIDED A LIST, KINDERGARTEN, FIRST, SECOND, THIRD GRADE. AND THEY WAS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NEED. SO WHAT WE DOING DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, WE GOING TO HAVE SO MANY BACKPACKS FOR KINDERGARTEN, SO MANY BACKPACKS FOR SECOND, THIRD GRADE, FOURTH. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUPPLIES LIST, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THAN WHAT KINDERGARTEN NEED VERSUS FIRST AND SECOND GRADE. SO I'M LIKE, OKAY. SO WE HAVE TO COORDINATE AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE MM-HMM. SUPPLIES. AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL TRAINED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US TO COORDINATE THIS. MM-HMM. . YEAH. BUT SOME OF THOSE PLOT SUPPLIES ON THEIR LIST THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, WE CANNOT DO. I MEAN, THEY WANT THINGS THAT WE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF. I MEAN, WE WENT TO SCHOOL. I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE TYPE OF SUPPLIES. I MEAN, WE HAD A PAPER PEN OR WHATEVER IN THE BOOK. BUT THE THINGS THAT THE CHILDREN USE NOWADAYS ARE, ARE JUST PHENOMENAL. IT'S JUST, IT'S, THIS IS A DIFFERENT WORLD. IT IS. SO, UH, WE WISH WE COULD DO ALL OF THOSE, BUT WE CANNOT SUPPLY. AND, AND, AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE THAT TO SOME OF THE PARENTS TO PICK UP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY NEED. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE OUTTA TIME, BUT I BLESS YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SORRY, WE'RE ON A SCHEDULE HERE. I'M SORRY. NO, NO, NO, NO. I WOULD, WE COULD LISTEN TO YOU ALL DAY LONG, BUT , THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU GUYS. TAKE CARE NOW. VERY CAREFULLY. THANK YOU. OH, WE'LL BE HERE CANVASING ALL WEEK. OKAY. WELL THEN ENJOY. EXACTLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M GONNA FIX THIS CLOCK. IT'S GLUED TO THE WALL. IS IT GLASS FRONT? IT'S GLUE TO THE WALL. OH, NO, IT'S, I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. GOOD QUESTION. I WAS WONDERING THAT TOO. YEAH. WELL, THEY HAD A GOOD ANSWER, . SO FAR ALL MY QUESTIONS ARE NICELY RETURNED. ALRIGHT, WE'RE DONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. STUDY . NO, I DIDN'T BECAUSE MY YOU DID IT. I DID. PERFECT. NOW WE'RE ALL ON APPLE TIME. YEAH. . WE ARE, WE ARE JUST HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THE ATOMIC CLOCK, BUT THE OLD ATOMIC CLOCK, WHICH I CANNOT REMEMBER WHERE THAT IS LOCATED. ISN'T IT GENEVA? IS IT GENEVA? I THINK SO. YEAH, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. LEAVE IT TO THE SWISS. ARE WE FOLLOWING THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE, THERESA? YES. OKAY. UM, THE BRIDGE CLUB. BRIDGE CLUB. THAT'S A NEW ONE. MM-HMM. . YES, IT IS. IT'S INTERESTING HOW, UM, MM-HMM, . MY MOTHER WAS A DIAMOND LIFE MASTER. WAS SHE? YEAH, SHE WAS, WE WAS IN MEMPHIS. THAT'S WHERE THE [00:20:02] A CBL, WHATEVER THE ACRONYM IS. THAT'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED. THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION. SO THERE WAS A PRETTY BIG ENTHUSIASTIC GROUP OF BRIDGE PLAYERS THERE. DO YOU GUYS HAVE QUE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THESE GUYS? I DO. YOU DO? OKAY. I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST THEN WE'LL GO GET THEM, HUH? YEAH, THEY'RE HERE. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ALONG AS FAST AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. DISPATCH. THIS IS, THANK YOU. YOU WANNA HAVE OH, KIDDO. GOOD MORNING. MORNING. GOOD MORNING, JACKIE. NO, I'M CAROLYN. CAROLYN. CAROLYN. CAROLYN, I'M STEPHANIE . HOW YOU DO. HI. THANK YOU. SHERRY, YOUR NEW ONE. YOU GET A PERSONAL GREETING. OH, PATTY, I, CHRIS, CHRIS, ED AND DEAN. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE, UH, PROTOCOL IS, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES WITH YOU AND WE GET TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS FIRST AND ANY TIME LEFT OVER THERE AFTER YOU GET TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. SO I KNOW ED HAS A QUESTION SO FAR AWAY, ED. YEAH. UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE, UM, I THINK THE NUMBER IS 74 SEDONA RESIDENTS IN YOUR CLUB. IS THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND, UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE EXTRA MONEY IT WAS GONNA COST TO OPERATE ANOTHER DAY, OR IT SEEMED LIKE YOUR FEES ARE GONNA COVER THAT COST, BUT I'M, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. COULD YOU TALK TO US? OKAY. WELL, ANOTHER DAY MEANS THAT, UH, WE, OUR RENT WOULD GO UP. YES. THE RENT GOES UP ON THAT. CORRECT. AND THEN, THEN CONSEQUENTLY YOU HAVE THE DIRECTORS, YOU HAVE NEW, YOU HAVE MORE, MORE, UH, OVERSIGHT, A CBL FEES, RIGHT? FROM THE, FROM THE, UM, ORGANIZATION AND, UM, I SUPPOSE JUST THE, THE COST OF DOING, OF DOING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT IT WAS. UH, BUT EVERYBODY PAYS LIKE WHAT, $7 PER GAIN CASE? THEY PAY $70 PER GAME AND THAT'S NOT GONNA COVER THE EXTRA COST THEN? NO. OKAY. IT WILL NOT. I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THAT, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE EXTRA, BUT IF WE DON'T GET THE FUNDING, IF WE WANTED TO DO IT IN A DAY, WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THE COST. AND IN PER PER PERSON PLAYING, HOW MANY TYPICALLY SHOW UP? HOW MANY TABLES? UM, YESTERDAY WE HAD SEVEN TABLES. OH, THAT'S GOOD. WOW. THAT'S 28 PEOPLE. MM-HMM. . UM, THERE'S RIGHT NOW THOUGH, SEE THE THING IS IF WE GET THAT ROOM THAT WE'RE IN, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN HAVE EIGHT, MAYBE NINE TABLES IS ALL THAT WE COULD HAVE. MM-HMM. . UM, BECAUSE THEN IT, IT GETS TOO CROWDED AND WE HAVE TO GO OUT INTO THE HALL, WHICH IS ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD LOOK TOO GOOD ON THAT. MM-HMM. . I MEAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM OUT THERE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO HAVE THAT, THAT EXTRA ROOM FOR THAT. AND, UM, WE'RE DOING, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLAYING THREE, THREE DAYS A WEEK. AND BEFORE COVID, SEE WE WERE, WE WERE AT THE ELKS CLUB BEFORE COVID, AND WE WOULD HAVE UP TO, UH, 14 OR 15 TABLES. WOW. OKAY. YEAH. VERY GOOD. SO WITH COVID REALLY KIND OF MESSED US UP AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT COME BACK FROM, FROM, UH, COVID HAVE NOT RE THEY JUST HAVEN'T COME BACK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PARTIALLY BECAUSE WE, WE DETERMINED THAT, THAT PEOPLE NEEDED TO HAVE VACCINATIONS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE ANTI-VAX AND SO THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, AND THEN THEY DIDN'T. AND WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE SIX FOOT DISTANCING, WHICH WAS, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD THAT WAY. NOW THAT THAT'S KIND OF OFF, IT'S STILL, WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD THE PE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, IT HAD NOT COME BACK. WE ARE AN OLDER . I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RETIRED AND WE'RE NOT OLDER. WE'RE MORE MATURE. MM-HMM. ANYHOW. SO, AND THERE ARE, WHEN YOU GET MORE MATURE, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE HEALTH ISSUES, . SO THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT, THAT MAY HAVE TO BE ON OXYGEN OR, OR HAVE TO, UM, UM, HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS. THEY CAN'T MOVE FROM TABLE TO TABLE. THEY HAVE TO STAY STATE ONE TO PARTICULAR TABLE. SO THIS, THIS, THIS IS UP TO THE DIRECTOR TO KIND OF ARRANGE THIS AND TRYING TO GET THAT AND TRY TO, THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT YOU OR EARN THESE POINTS THROUGH A CBL, WHICH YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH. AND IT'S [00:25:01] NOT GONNA BE IN YOUR TOMBSTONE. HOWEVER, PEOPLE LOOK FOR FORWARD TO GETTING THESE POINTS. AND SO THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO STRATIFY, THE DIRECTORS HAVE TO SIT THERE AND STRATIFY. NOW THE DIRECTORS ARE, UM, COMPENSATED, UM, BUT REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT. ARE THOSE LOCAL DIRECTORS? YES. THEY'RE ALL THE MEMBERS ARE OUR SUB, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THEY, THAT CONSTITUTES IT. A LARGE PROPORTION OF YOUR EXPENSES REALLY IS THE DIRECTOR'S COSTS, ISN'T IT? IF THAT'S UNDER CONSULT PROFESSIONAL FEES. YES. YES. RIGHT. YES. AND IF WE HAVE, SEE WE HAD, UH, LAST YEAR, I GUESS IT WAS LAST YEAR IN JUNE, WE DID HAVE A SECTIONAL HERE. THE SECTIONAL IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY CAN COME IN AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN COMING IN, THEN YOU DO HAVE TO, YOU, UH, ARRANGE FOR DIRECTORS FROM A CBL TO ACTUALLY COME IN TO DIRECT THE GAMES. AND THOSE ARE QUITE COSTLY. THE, THE CLUB IS NEVER, WELL, IN FACT, THE DISTRICT HAS NEVER MADE MONEY ON ANY OF THESE SECTIONALS. THEY USUALLY ARE LOSING MONEY ON THE SECTIONALS BECAUSE, SO I SUPPOSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THE DIRECTOR'S, DIRECTOR'S FEES, IT'S, IT IS MAINLY THE DIRECTOR'S FEES AND A CBL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE, ARE, THAT THEY COST. UH, UM, EATERS, I HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT EQUIPMENT. MM-HMM. TOO. IN YOUR, IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET. MM-HMM. , UM, LIKE YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE, UM, UH, A DEALING MACHINE AND BRIDGE MATES, WHICH IS A COMPUTER PROGRAM, RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PHYSICAL. THEY'RE PHYSICAL THINGS. PIECES OF YES. EQUIPMENT. PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE NOW AT ALL? OR IS THIS AN ADDITION? WE DO HAVE THEM NOW, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING OLDER. THEY SEE, WE WANT TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A, UM, A CAPITAL A BUDGET THAT WE CAN, WE CAN REPLACE THEM AS WE NEED TO REPLACE. THEY ARE, UM, I THINK THEY'RE BATTERY RUNS. AND SO, UH, BUT THE MACHINE, THE BRIDGEMATES ARE ACTUALLY MACHINES THAT, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO OUR BIDDING AROUND THE TABLE, THE BIDDING IS ENTERED INTO THE BRIDGE MATE MACHINE AND THE MACHINE AT THE END OF THE MACHINE, THEN YOU, YOU PUT DOWN WHAT YOU HAD MADE AND THEN DID AND ALL THAT. AND IT GOES TO THE COMPUTER. AND THEN THE COMPUTER ACTUALLY GOES TO THE A CBL. SO, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTIONS. SO WE ARE, WE ARE ACTUALLY CONNECTED WITH THEM, BUT IT IS A PHYSICAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT IS AT EACH, EACH TABLE, AT EACH TABLE WITH PEOPLE ARE PLAYING. WOW. THE DEALING MACHINE IS ACTUALLY A MACHINE THAT THE, THE HANDS ARE SET UP. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH BRIDGE. I KNOW THAT SET HANDS. RIGHT. THE HANDS ARE SET UP. BUT THE DEALING MACHINE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HECK IT DOES IT, BUT IF YOU PUT A DECK OF CARDS IN THERE AND IT ACTUALLY DEALS THE HANDS OUT, AND THEN THEY HAVE A RECORD OF WHAT THE HANDS ARE, WHAT IT POSSIBLY MAKE, WHAT IT CAN'T MAKE. I MEAN, WHO COULD NORTH SOUTHEASTERN WESTERN NAME THAT EXPLAINS AN AWFUL WHY. I HAVE NO IDEA. MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY COMPLEX MACHINES. AND IN FACT, YESTERDAY THERE WAS A SCREW UP IN ONE OF 'EM. WE HAD TO COMPLETELY START ALL OVER AGAIN WITH OUR, BECAUSE, UM, YESTERDAY WAS A SPECIAL GAME. AND WHERE EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE DISTRICT PLAYS THE SAME HANDS. AND SO YOU'RE NOT PLAYING THIS AGAINST YOUR CLUB MEMBERS. YOU'RE PLAYING AGAINST THE WHOLE DISTRICT. THE DISTRICT IS, UH, 3 55, WHICH IS, UH, PRESCOTT, FLAGSTAFF. WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANNA GET EATEN UP BY PHOENIX BECAUSE PHOENIX, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THESE, THESE POINTS AND ALL THESE TYPE OF THINGS. I'M SO DISAPPOINTED THERE'S BEEN SUCH A REDUCTION IN YOUR TABLES, UH, SINCE THE PANDEMIC. WILL IT HELP TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE RED ROCK NEWS OR KUDOS OR SOMETHING? WE HAVE TRIED THAT. WE'VE TRIED THAT BEFORE AND WE JUST HAVE NOT REALLY HAD A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF, IT'S MAINLY A LOT OF IT'S WAS WORD OF MOUTH. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE STARTED A, A CLASS, A BEGINNING CLASS OF WHICH I AM HELPING IN. I'M NOT THE TEACHER, BUT I AM HELPING IN, AND WE MEET EVERY WEDNESDAY BEFORE WE PLAY CARDS. WE MEET EVERY WEDNESDAY, 10 TO 12 AND GO OVER HANDS. WE'RE GOING OVER OUR BOOKS, BOOKS THAT, UH, ONE OF THE BRIDGE GURUS IS, HAS WRITTEN AND GOING THROUGH AND TRYING. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS PARTICULAR CLASS THAT WE HAD, UH, I THINK 12 STARTED OUT WITH THE CLASS, AND NOW WE ROUTINELY HAVE AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE THAT ARE COMING IN ROUTINELY BECAUSE THE CLASS ITSELF IS OVER. IT WAS FOUR WEEKS OF THE CLASS. AND THEN EVERY WEEK WE STILL MEET, I STILL MEET WITH THEM, UM, EVERY MONDAY, EVERY WEDNESDAY AND GO OVER HANDS AND JUST TO HELP THEM GET INTO THE BIDDING AND TO THE, UH, THE PLAY OF THE HAND. AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN GOTTEN INTO DEFENSE AND, UH, UH, CONVENTIONS AND ALL THAT KIND OF JUNK. IT, IT'S A PRETTY COMPLICATED GAME. I MEAN, I LOVE IT. I'VE BEEN PLAYING SINCE I WAS 16 ANYWAY, OTHER THAN THAT, . BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO, UM, [00:30:01] HAVE PEOPLE COME BACK. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT OLLIE CLASSES? THEY DID DO SOME OLLIE CLASSES. UM, THEY DID IT AND THEY DID. THEY USED A PATTY TUCKER. THEY USED A DIFFERENT PERSON DID THAT. THEY DID DO THE OLLIE CLASSES. SO ONE OF THE MEMBERS DID DO THAT. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE LIKE A VOLUNTEER WOULD GO AND TEACH THAT ON THOSE CLASSES. I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A POPULAR WAY TO PUT OUT THE WORRY, FRANKLY. IS A CBL GROWING OR STAGNANT OR SHRINKING? I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S GROWING. MM-HMM. , I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IT MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT STAGNANT BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAD TO, THEY HAD TO REALLY TONE DOWN ON THEIR TOURNAMENTS. I MEAN, COVID WAS A PAIN IN THE, BUT UM, THEY HAD TO REALLY DO DOWN THEIR TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE THEY, AGAIN, THEY WERE, THEY WERE REQUIRING PEOPLE TO HAVE VACCINES AND THEY HAD TO TRY TO GET THEIR TABLES FAR ENOUGH APART. THEY WENT AND THEY, THEY WOULD GET, UH, WHEN YOU USED TOURNAMENTS, WHEN YOU, THEY'RE USUALLY HELD AT, UM, BIG HOTELS OR THE CASINOS. AND IT'S USUALLY IN PHOENIX. MY MOTHER USED TO GO, OH, OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW. OKAY. I I'M JUST, THAT'S, I'M NOT TRYING, I'M TRYING TO, I'M NOT TRYING TO THAT'S FINE. ACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE DONE, BUT I'M JUST KNOW, WE KNOW NOTHING. WE KNOW NOTHING. I KNOW NOTHING. SOME I TOLD THESE GUYS, MY MOTHER WAS A DYNA LIFE MASTERS. OH MY GOSH. HOW WONDERFUL. YEAH, SHE WAS BIG TIME. YEAH. THAT'S, YEAH. SHE'D GET PAID TO GO TO TOURNAMENTS. YEAH. SO WE RUN OUT OF TIME HERE. I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT OR ASK YOU, WHO WAS THE CREATIVE ONE THAT THOUGHT OF CAPITALIZING YOUR EQUIPMENT EXPENSE? BECAUSE WE DO NOT, WE DO NOT FUND FOR EQUIPMENT, BUT THE CAPITALIZATION OF YOUR EQUIPMENT FROM YEAR TO YEAR MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT A LEGITIMATE EXPENSE. UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS JACKIE AND ERWIN. THEY WERE, THEY WERE A COUPLE IWIN. I FIGURED IT WAS ERWIN. I KNOW ERWIN. OKAY. I SAID, I BET YOU THIS ISN'T ERWIN. EVERYBODY KNOWS . YEAH. WELL, I, BUT WHAT CAN I SAY? AND THAT WAS, HE, HE, HE AND JACKIE GOT TOGETHER AND REALLY PUT THIS PROPOSAL, I MEAN, TO WRITE ALL THIS AND PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER, COMPLIMENT HIM FOR ME OR WHOEVER IT, WHOMEVER, WHOEVER IT WAS THAT CRAFTED THAT CONCEPT I JOB BECAUSE IT, IT WAS JOB KIND OF, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, WE, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO SAY TO GET THAT. SO DON'T HAVE TO YOU. STUPID. THAT'S THE ABSOLUTELY. THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDERED IT. SO, GOOD JOB. YEAH. OKAY. WELL I'LL TELL HIM. I'LL TELL. SO. ALRIGHT. ANYHOW. WE ARE OUT OF TIME, JACK. OH MY GOSH. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. WELL, IT'S OKAY WITH CAROL. WHATEVER IT IS. CAROL, MY NAME. CAROL. I'M SORRY. I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE THANK YOU CAROL. VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. NICE. YOU STEPHANIE. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. THANK YOU FOR, UH, CONSIDERING THIS BECAUSE WE REALLY, WE REALLY, WE ALL ENJOY THE GAME SO MUCH AND WE REALLY DO. GOOD FOR THE BRAIN. IT WELL, IT IS, I MEAN, IT HELPS, HELPS, HELPS ME THINK. GOSH, , THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY. WELL, CHESS HAS SURVIVED SO YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SURVIVE EVEN THROUGH THE VIDEO GAME. . I'M SERIOUS. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. I THINK IT'LL TAKE YOU GUYS OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH VERY MUCH CAROL. BYE-BYE. NICE SEEING YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. YOU TOO. I WISH THE RED ROCK NEWS WOULD CHOOSE EACH ONE OF THESE AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE PARAGRAPH OVER THE YEAR AND GIVES THEM ALL A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLICITY. HMM. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THEY HAD KIND OF A CLUB PAGE, BUT ISN'T THERE ONE? NEVER. WHERE ARE MEETING? SHE SAID MEETING PLACE. I DON'T REMEMBER CATCH THAT. WHAT WAS THE COMMUNITY? WHAT WAS QUESTION? IT WAS WONDER WHERE THEY MEETING? SHE SAID USED TO BE AT THE SYNAGOGUE. THE SYNAGOGUE. OKAY. OH, INTERESTING. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THE SYNAGOGUE GIVES THEM A GOOD DEAL FOR A ROOM. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND UTILITIES AND SCIENCE. THAT, THAT MAKES IT, YEAH. KNOWING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED. THAT MAKES SENSE. IF THEY MIGHT USE IT. IS THAT A BIGGER AREA THAN THE COMMUNITY CENTER HERE? OH, I THINK THE SYNAGOGUE'S PRETTY LARGE. I HAVE NO IDEA. BIGGER. I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF SERVICES THERE AND THEY'VE GOT A HUGE COMMUNITY. THEY'VE GOT A COMMUNITY ROOM DOWNSTAIRS THAT'S PROBABLY TWICE THE SIZE OF THIS MAYBE. OR HAVING, SO TOMORROW THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S INELIGIBLE. OH YEAH. WHAT HAPPENED IS WHAT'S THE INELIGIBLE? YEAH. YOU KNOW, IN THE BREAKDOWN WHAT TOMORROW? LIKE, UM, THIS ONE HAS STUFF LIKE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL SCHOLARSHIPS AND I DIDN'T THINK WE FUNDED THOSE. YEAH. WE DO HIGH SCHOOL SCHOLARSHIPS. WELL RIGHT. ORGANIZATIONS DO THAT TOO. WHERE DO YOU GET THE IMPRESSION? NOT I WAS JUST WHAT? YEAH, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT. WE'LL PAR TOMORROW FOR [00:35:01] TOMORROW. YEAH. THAT'S THE OTHER THING I DID IS I KIND OF DID A ROUGH BREAKDOWN BETWEEN ARTS. YEAH. AND, UM, WE, WE NEED TO NEGO WE WILL NEGOTIATE THAT AS WELL. 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS. AND THEN DISCUSSING THE TRAVEL TRAINING. YEAH. ALL OF THAT. WE CAN GO OVER ALL THAT TOMORROW AS WE START CUTTING THESE THINGS UP. YEAH. WOW. DID YOU GET MY SPREADSHEET? ESSENTIALLY? MAKE SURE EVERYTHING RUNS DOWN. NO, NOT YET. IT'S WEIRD. OKAY. WHEN DID YOU SEND IT? OH, YOU KNOW WHERE MR. NOTE CALLS TO THE IT DEPARTMENT? DID YOU GET MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AZ COWGIRL? PROBABLY NOT. NO. I, YEAH, I, HE WENT TO MY OLD ONE. UM, OKAY. HE SEDONA, FINALLY HE LEFT THE GHOST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT DID OR NOT, BUT IT GOT SO BAD I COULDN'T DEAL WITH IT ANYMORE. LET'S SEE WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE. I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA SEND IT TO ME ELECTRONICALLY, THAT'S FINE. BUT TOMORROW, UM, I NEED TO COLLECT ALL YOUR MATRICES AND, UH, ALL THE, ALL THE MATRICES AND ALL YOUR ONE MATRIX. AND ALL THE MATRICES. MM-HMM. . UM, AND I APPRECIATE IT IF YOU TOTAL 'EM UP FOR ME, YOU KNOW, ACROSS, SO THE, EACH ORGANIZATION HAS A TOTAL. SO YOU DON'T WANT THEM TODAY, YOU WANT THEM TO NO. TOMORROW AFTER WE DECIDE WHO'S WHAT, BECAUSE WHATEVER HAPPENS. OH, I'M SORRY. TODAY IT ACTUALLY, THE END OF GONNA BE RIOT. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S AT THE END OF TODAY. I DIDN'T, MINE JUST DIDN'T PRINT. I MEAN, I DIDN'T DO IT ELECTRONICALLY. I DON'T CARE. YEAH, NO PRINT'S FINE. SO JUST ADD IT ACROSS. YEAH, ADD IT ACROSS AND GIVE THE TOTAL AND GIVE, YEAH, GIVE AND I WANT THE SHEET. SO JUST PUT YOUR TOTAL AND THE SHEET. OF COURSE. YEAH. GIMME THE SHEET. 'CAUSE THEN I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOTTA DO THE COMPILATION. OKAY. WE ARE READY, DARREN. OKAY. WE NEED THE CARPET BAG. THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. I TALKED TO HIM A LITTLE BIT. DID YOU? YEAH, I DID BECAUSE HE'S ALSO NEW, SO I SHOULD GO, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME. JOHN? RUBY. JOHN. JOHN. THAT'S THE PRESIDENT. OKAY. RON. IT'S NOT JACK. I'M OKAY. . I'M IN A GOOD GROUP. . I WOULDN'T HAVE COME UP LAUREN'S POINTS FOR THAT ONE. THAT, THAT DATES ME THOUGH. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT. THAT DATES ME. ME TOO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE AGAIN. HOW ARE YOU DOING? HI STEPHANIE. SEE OKAY, WE'VE GOT 10 MINUTES HERE WITH YOU AND, UH, THIS IS, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE YOU SINCE YOU'RE NAME TO THE GROUP. HELLO, PATTY AND CHRIS AND DEAN AND ED. ED PATTY, CHRIS, DEAN, AND ED. STEPHANIE. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO, UM, PROTOCOL HERE AS WE DISCUSSED ON OUR TELEPHONE CALL IS, UM, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES AND, UM, WE GET TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS FIRST. IF WE WANT OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU GET TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PANEL. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? JUST THE ONE, UM, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING IS IN YOUR BUDGET, TRAVEL AND TRAINING. SO THE COMPANY, THE TRAVEL IS, THE COMPANY IS DISPERSED. MY COMPANY, WHICH HAS BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR OVER 10 YEARS. ONE PERSON LIVES IN NEW YORK CITY. ONE LIVES IN BOGOTA, COLUMBIA. UH, ONE LIVES IN VANCOUVER AND TWO OF US LIVE IN PRESCOTT. SO PRESCOTT IS OUR CENTER. IT'S WHERE THE COMPANY WAS FOUNDED. THE, THIS BIZARRE GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION WAS A CONSEQUENCE OF COVID. PEOPLE SETTLED, THEIR LIVES BEGAN, AND IN REBUILDING THE WORK, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET TOGETHER, WE NEED TO, THERE'S A TRAVEL BUDGET. SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE TRAVEL BUDGET. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THE TRAINING TIME, BECAUSE THE, THE ACTIVITY OF STILL WALKING IS ACTUALLY QUITE INTENSE AND YOU HAVE TO REALLY BE IN SHAPE OR YOU CAN GET HURT. THERE'S ALWAYS SORT OF, BEFORE WE GET TOGETHER AND PREPARE THE WORK, THERE'S A PERIOD OF GETTING BACK INTO IT. JOHN, WILL YOU EXPLAIN, AS YOU DID VERY WELL WITH ME ON THE TELEPHONE, UM, YOUR, HOW YOUR COMPANY PERFORMS IN PRESCOTT MM-HMM. AND WHAT YOUR IMPACT WAS TO THAT COMMUNITY. OKAY, SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BEGINNINGS OF OUR COMPANY WAS IN 1997. I HAD MOVED FROM DENMARK AND GERMANY TO PRESCOTT SITE ON SCENE TO, UH, LIVE AS A PERFORMANCE ARTIST, AS IF FOREVER IN THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT, WHICH MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE HEIGHT OF [00:40:01] FOLLY . IT'S AN UNUSUAL DECISION. UM, AND WHAT I DID WAS I WANT, I STARTED A COMMUNITY FESTIVAL CALLED TSUNAMI ON THE SQUARE, WHICH RAN FOR 15 YEARS. AND, UH, QUANTITATIVELY BY THE END OF THAT FESTIVAL, WE HAD LIKE EIGHT TO 10,000 PEOPLE COMING OUT TO SEE THE EVENT. AND THAT WAS BUILT THROUGH DOING LIVE PERFORMANCE ADS FOR THE BUSINESSES. SO I'D GO AROUND DOWN TO THE SQUARE AND GET PEOPLE TO LIKE PLEDGE MONEY TO THE FESTIVAL. AND IN RETURN, INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING IN THE PROGRAM, THEY WOULD GET LIKE A LIVE PERFORMANCE. UM, THERE WAS ALSO LOTS OF PLATFORMING AND USING THE STAGE OF THE FESTIVAL TO BRING LOCAL ARTISTS IN. SO IT WAS A COMMUNITY BUILDING EVENT, BUT I ALSO BROUGHT IN REGIONAL AND NATIONAL ARTISTS. SO THERE WAS THIS MIX OF DIFFERENT CULTURAL EXPRESSIONS THAT YOU COULD SAY DIDN'T HAPPEN IN PRESCOTT ON A REGULAR BASIS. UM, LAST YEAR WE REDID, LIKE, WE STARTED THE, THE COMPANY STARTED THEIR NEW WORK CALLED FLOS AND JETSON. AND WE, THIS WAS ALL LIKE WITHIN EIGHT WEEKS. IT WAS VERY, A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE, BUT WE PERFORMED AGAIN AT THE SQUARE AND IT WAS VERY NOSTALGIC FOR MANY PEOPLE. WE PROBABLY HAD LIKE 300 TO 350 PEOPLE COME AND SHOW UP. AND FOR ME THAT WAS A MARKER THAT THE WORK IS STILL VALID AND THAT IT, LIKE, FOR ME IT WAS LIKE A COMMUNITY MAGIC MEDICINE LIKE, OR COMMUNITY MEDICINE MAGIC WHERE PEOPLE WERE TOGETHER IN ONE MOMENT. AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LIKE CLEANING THE PALLET OF IMPRESSIONS. AND PRESCOTT HAD SOME, I MEAN, WE HAD PEOPLE WITH LIKE AK ON THE SQUARE PROTECTING THE TOWN FROM BLACK LIVES MATTER, WHO THEY THOUGHT WERE GONNA BURN WHISKEY ROW DOWN. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME, WHAT I WOULD SAY, LIKE COMMUNITY TRAUMA ON THE SQUARE. AND I THINK THAT ART IS AN ANTIDOTE TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. I MIGHT HAVE. NO, YOU DID. GO. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. I VEED INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. NO, YOU'RE FINE. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY FINE. GO AHEAD. SO WHAT I SAW WAS THAT THE WORK THAT WE HAD DONE ALL THESE YEARS AGO, WHICH 'CAUSE PEOPLE CAME UP TO ME AND SAID LIKE, IT WAS SO GOOD WHEN TSUNAMI WAS HAPPENING, EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN CAME OUT AND THEY WERE IN A MOMENT TOGETHER. IT WAS NOT IDEOLOGICAL. UM, BUT I THINK 20 YEARS AGO, 15 YEARS AGO, THIS, WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN WE ARE NOW AS A SOCIETY. BUT I STILL THINK THAT THIS TYPE OF WORK WHERE PEOPLE SEE BEAUTY EXPRESSED, WHERE THEY SEE A TYPE OF CULTURAL CELEBRATION OR SOCIAL RITUAL, AND I DON'T MEAN RITUAL IN LIKE A RELIGIOUS SENSE, BUT I MEAN LIKE PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND EXPERIENCING SOMETHING THAT BRINGS THEM INTO THE MOMENT THAT HAS AN ELEMENT OF BEAUTY TO IT AND CELEBRATION. I THINK THAT IS A, A TONIC FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THE PURPOSE IN CREATING THIS FESTIVAL WAS TO NOT JUST DO IT IN PRESCOTT, BUT TO DO IT IN WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE DONE IT IN CAMP VERDE RATHER THAN JEROME. BUT JEROME HAS LIKE THIS BEAUTIFUL SPA , SO TO DO IT THROUGHOUT YAVAPAI COUNTY, PRESCOTT, PRESCOTT VALLEY, UH, JEROME SEDONA IN COTTONWOOD. SO, UM, GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE A, A VIDEO YOU MIGHT RECOMMEND TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THIS WOULD BE LIKE? OH YEAH. IF YOU GO TO OUR VIDEO CHANNEL, WHICH WAS IN THE GRANT. OKAY. OKAY. THERE'S SOUNDS GOOD. YOU CAN LOOK AT LIKE THE COMPANY'S VIDEOS OVER THE YEARS. OKAY. ALSO, IF YOU GO TO OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, A CARPET BAG BRIGADE, THERE ARE VARIOUS PICTURES AND VIDEOS FOR THROUGHOUT THE TEENS, THE 20 TEENS, LIKE FROM 2013 TO 2019, WE DID A LOT OF, UH, WORK AT ANI, WHICH ONE TIME IT WAS LIKE A MONTH LONG RESIDENCY WITH THE COLUMBIAN GROUP. THEN WE DID A THING CALLED GLOBAL STILT CONGRESS, WHICH BROUGHT PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO ANI. AND THEN WE DID SITE SPECIFIC PERFORMANCES THERE. UM, SO SOME OF THAT IS ON THERE TOO. AND THEN WE JUST, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE MYSELF AND HELEN GOODRICH, WHO, WHO LIVE IN PRESCOTT WERE LIKE, WE WANTED TO DO THINGS IN PRESCOTT AGAIN AND TO, I LOVE ANTE, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BUBBLE. AND SO THE ABILITY FOR THIS WORK TO LIKE INTERFACE WITH, UM, CITIES AND TOWNS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. SO HAVE YOU TALKED TO PARKS AND REC CITIES? PARKS AND REC? OH, I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THE POSSE GROUNDS. MM-HMM. . SO YEAH, LIKE THAT CONVERSATION. SO YOU'VE SEDONAS ALREADY GOT MY MONEY. . SO YOU'VE GOT A DATE? UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT'LL BE JULY 14TH AT THE POSSE GROUNDS, WHICH IS A SUNDAY. SO YOU DIDN'T ASK PARKS AND REC [00:45:01] TO SPONSOR THE PERFORMANCE? I DON'T THINK THEY DO THAT. THEY JUST, THEY DO. THEY DO. YEAH. THE RED DIRT CONCERTS. THEY JUST HAD THE LAST ONE LAST WEEK. WELL, I WOULD DO THAT NEXT TIME AROUND. MM-HMM. . UM, WHEN I, WHEN I, 'CAUSE I, I WENT TO THE DIFFERENT CITIES ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY COULD SUPPORT AND BASICALLY I WAS, I WAS KIND OF GIVEN A RENTAL OPTION FOR THE SPACE, BUT NOT REALLY FOR SUPPORT. WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, WELL, I SHOULDN'T ASK QUESTIONS YET. NO, YOU CAN'T. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. YOU'VE GOT ONE MORE MINUTE. WHAT IS THE PROCESS? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. GOT IT. UM, GO AHEAD. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'RE, YOU COLLABORATE WITH EMERSON THEATER THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, QUITE FAMILIAR WITH IN THIS AREA AS A, AS A PROFESSIONAL ORGAN, PROFESSIONALLY RUN ORGANIZATION. YEAH. I AM. I WORKED FOR CAMILLA WHEN SHE PRESENTED IN DECENT LAST OH, OKAY. I WAS THE STAGE MANAGER. OH, I SEE. SO I WAS THERE FOR LIKE TWO WEEKS AT THE VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL. OKAY. DOING ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, . OKAY. AND THEN THIS PAST WINTER I PERFORMED THERE AS PART OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. I HAVE A SOLO PERFORMANCE. AND THEN I INVITED CAMILLA TO BE PART OF PRODUCTION IN PRESCOTT. AND THAT WILL CONTINUE. I, I, I THINK CAMILLA'S DOING AMAZING WORKFORCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. I HAVE, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION. WHEN WILL IS THE AUGUST NOW YOU AND I SPOKE IT'S WAY PUSHED BACK TO AUGUST. UH, THERESA AND I HAD A CONVERSATION AND, UH, COUNSEL IS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EVALUATE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL THE, UNTIL AUGUST. OH. SO WE'RE PUSHED BACK. YOU SEE MY EYES, THERE'S TOTALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL. UM, IS THERE, WILL THERE BE ANY FLUCTUATION IN THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT? WELL, YES, THERE VERY WELL COULD BE. I MEAN, YOU MEAN FLUCTUATION ONCE WE RECOMMEND IT? YES. I MEAN, THE COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THAT DETERMINES WHAT I CAN I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. I AM SO SORRY. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY TO I KNOW ALLOCATE FOR PROGRAMS. WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T EITHER. IT'S OUT OF OUR, IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF OUR HANDS. WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL REVIEWS IT, AND THEN COUNCIL ACTUALLY HAS TO VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION. AND THERE HAVE BEEN OCCASIONS RARELY, RECENTLY, BUT THERE HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN OCCASIONS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN ADJUSTMENTS FROM THE DS THAT DAY. GOT IT. SO THAT I SHOULD GO. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUT THANK YOU. IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE, AND IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, CAN I CALL YOU? JUST CALL ABSOLUTELY. CALL THEREA. OBVIOUSLY TODAY'S NOT A GOOD DAY. . YEAH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL THERESA, SHE'S HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MECHANICAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING HOW THE CITY WORKS. OKAY. WITH THIS. I DON'T HAVE CARDS WITH ME, BUT I HAVE YOUR EMAIL. I'LL EMAIL YOU MY PHONE NUMBER OFF. IS YOUR EMAIL THE ONE THAT REPLACED? YES. YOUR, YOU'VE REPLACED. I'M KAREN. OKAY. THANK YOU JOHN. THANK TAKE CARE. HAVE GOOD DAY. NICE MEET YOU ALL HAVE A, I FORGOT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR ALL OF THAT. . NO, WELL IT DID ME TOO BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, I WAS, UM, YOU WANT BELLS? I WAS AT A LOSS. BILL. BILLS, YEAH. UHHUH. I SAID, I HEARD STEPHANIE SAY, WHAT DO THEY WANT NEXT? AND I THINK SHE WAS LOOKING AT WHAT WAS THE, OH, BELLS. BELLS. THEY WANT BELLS. LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF BELLS. WE'VE 10,000. THEY CAME TO US WITH THE BELLS BEFORE. YES, THEY DID. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, AND NOW THEY HAVE SOME HISTORY UNDER THEIR BELTS. YEAH, THEY DO. AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WELL, SPEAKING PERSONALLY, MAN, PEOPLE COME UP ON ME OUT THERE AND I SAY, YOU NEED A BELL . I DO TOO. OH, REALLY? AS A HIKER. I DO. YEAH. OKAY. WELL THAT 'CAUSE AS AN EQUESTRIAN, I, I WANT THAT'S COMING BACK. I, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN I'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE MY HORSE HEARS A BELL, HE KNOWS IT'S COMING. HE'S LY RELAXED. HE'S FINE. HE LOOKS AROUND. BUT HE, HE KNOWS, HE KNOWS WHAT'S, AND I MEAN, 'CAUSE HE CAN HEAR WAY BEFORE, I MEAN, HE KNOWS SOMETHING'S COMING FROM WAY, WAY BACK. I MEAN, LIKE SOMETIMES FIVE MINUTES OUT, DEAN WILL ATTEST THAT. WOW. FIVE MINUTES OUT. BUT IF HE HEARS THE BELL, HE KNOWS IT. NOW HE KNOWS HE'S, HE'S NOT BEING CHASED BY SOMETHING WEIRD. YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE HE RECOGNIZES OH, OH. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WELL, GREAT. YEAH. I DIDN'T, I, OH NO, IT'S A HUGE'S. THEY'RE NOT ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DUMB. DON'T HEAR THAT MANY PEOPLE WITH BELTS THOUGH. THE, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. NO, I DON'T EITHER, [00:50:01] BUT I'M SAYING WHEN THERE IS ONE. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HANDING OUT IN THEIR WRITEUP QUITE A FEW OF THEM FOR A WHILE. SO I'M WONDER IF PEOPLE ARE JUST TAKING THEM FOR SOUVENIRS. THEY COULD BE. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DO KNOW THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT MORE OUT THERE THAN THERE WERE. AND I ALWAYS, WHEN THEY PASS ME, I THANK THEM. I SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING A BELL. YEAH, I DO TOO. BUT IT'S VERY RARE WHEN I HEAR A BELL. YEAH. WELL, WHEN PEOPLE GO BY, I TELL 'EM, YOU NEED A BELL. AND GREG GOES, WHY? YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT TO EVERYBODY? I SAID, YES, I DO. . THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT. I'M, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE PEOPLE NOT ON BIKES. GETTING THE BELLS. THANK YOU. YEAH, NO. SO YOU MEAN WHETHER IT'S, WHETHER IT'S A BENEFIT OR NOT, I GUARANTEE WELL ASK HIM TO THE NEXT ONE. SURE. YEAH, SURE. NO, ASK HIM FOR THEIR EVIDENCE. THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY. YOU KNOW, ASK THEM FOR THEIR EVIDENCE. THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO STATE THEIR CASE TO US. OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE CANNOT COME INTO THAT. I ACT LIKE GREG DOES. WHEN I SEE BIKES RIDING ON THE SIDEWALK. I SAY, GET ON THE BIKE AWAY. THAT'S ME THAT YELLS AT 'EM. GREG SAYS, STEPHANIE, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. I SAID, NO, I'M NOT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LEGAL OR NOT IN THE CITY. IT, IN CALIFORNIA. IT WAS ALWAYS VERY DOWN TO TOWN. SHE, HEY CATHERINE, HOW ARE YOU? MORNING. I'M NOT GONNA GET UP AND GREET YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, I GOT PRESENTS FOR EVERYBODY. YEAH. ALL GOOD. OUT ON THE THANK YOU. AND MARTY SENDS HIS REGRETS. HE IS EN ROUTE TO CAPE TOWN SOUTH AFRICA RIGHT NOW. IS HE? YES. ON VACATION. SHOULD BE EATEN BY WINES. I'M CONVINCED WHO'S GOING ON SAFARI? HE'S GOING ON SAFARI. WELL, GOOD. I HOPE HE AND LISA HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME. OKAY. UM, I KNOW DEAN'S GOT A QUESTION YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY. DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE AS TO THE EFFECT OF THESE OUT THERE? WE'VE SHARED PERSONAL STORIES HERE. WELL, NON-MOTOR, UH, THE NON-MOTORIZED TRAIL USERS GETTING THE BALLS THAT THE BILLS. WELL, UH, I CAN TELL YOU I CAN'T KEEP THE BINS STOPPED. SO THEY'RE GETTING, UH, YESTERDAY, I, WE HAVE 19 LOCATIONS. WOW. I PUT 250 BELLS IN BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL EMPTY. AND I HAD JUST DONE IT THE THURSDAY PRIOR. WOW. YES. SO WE HAVE, UH, THERE'S A SEVEN TRAIL HEADS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE, UH, A BIKE FIXIT STATION THAT THE CHAMBER PUT IN YEARS AGO. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE PUT, UH, A BASKET ON THE BIKE, FIX IT STATION. WE HAVE A LITTLE SIGN. I THINK I, I SNUCK A PICTURE IN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE CHIME IN SIGN AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE, EVEN THE ONE AT POSSE GROUNDS WHERE AT THE BIKE PARK, EVERY ONE OF THOSE WAS EMPTY YESTERDAY. BUT DO YOU KNOW WHO'S PICKING THEM UP? WELL, BECAUSE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, AND WHICH CHRIS BROUGHT UP WAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE HIDE, I'M EQUESTRIAN, YOU KNOW THAT. AND, UM, WE DON'T HEAR THAT MANY OUT THERE. WELL, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHO PICKS 'EM UP AT THOSE STATIONS, BUT WE CAN CONTROL WHAT THE BUSINESSES WHO PICK THEM UP. MM-HMM. . AND FOR, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, UH, AT BOTH VISITOR CENTERS, BIG SIGNS DON'T ONLY TAKE IF YOU'RE A MOUNTAIN BIKER. AND, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE AT THE VISITOR CENTER. WE'RE AT TWO SEDONA BEER COMPANY LOCATIONS, UH, UH, THUNDER MOUNTAIN BIKES, THE HIKE HOUSE. UH, AND, UH, OH GOD, I'M BLANKING. FAMOUS PIZZA. MM-HMM. , UH, AT BOTH LOCATIONS. FAMOUS PIZZA. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GIVING 'EM OUT. AND THOSE ARE HANGOUTS FOR OTHER THAN THE HIKE HOUSE OR HANGOUTS FOR MOUNTAIN BIKERS AFTER THEY RIDE. SO THEY'RE GETTING THERE. BUT QUITE FRANKLY, WE DON'T CARE WHO GETS 'EM AS LONG AS THEY'RE BEING TAKEN AND BEING USED OUT THERE ON THE TRAILS. AND, UH, I'VE HAD ONE ON MY BIKE SINCE 2018. IT WAS THE BEST THING I EVER DID. UH, I HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THANKING ME. I THINK EVERY TIME I HEAR ONE, I THINK THAT'S SO, I'M SURE SOME OF 'EM ARE GOING IN TAURUS POCKETS AND GOING HOME, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY'RE TAURUS THAT ARE MOUNTAIN BIKERS. SO WHEN THEY TAKE 'EM HOME, THEY PUT 'EM ON THEIR BIKES AT HOME. AND WE DO HAVE 'EM AT, UH, THUNDER MOUNTAIN BIKES AND THE TWO BIKE SHOPS IN THE VILLAGE. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO PUT THEM ON THEIR BIKES. AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE FOREST SERVICE MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT. IF YOU RENT BIKES, YES. PUT THE BELLS ON. NOW MOST SOMEONE [00:55:01] WILL TAKE THEM OFF. BECAUSE THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I HEAR ABOUT MOUNTAIN BIKERS, I DON'T LIKE THE . I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S PREVALENT, BUT THOSE ARE GONNA DO IT. IT TAKES THREE WEEKS AND YOU DON'T HEAR THE NOISE ANYMORE. YOU REALLY DON'T, YOU JUST DON'T HEAR IT. 'CAUSE IT BECOMES PART OF YOU AS YOUR LIGHTING. SO I, I'M SURPRISED THAT THE, THE BIKE SHOPS WOULDN'T PUT THEM ON IN SOME PERMANENT FASHION RATHER THAN COOKIES. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I WISH THEY WOULD, BUT THEY KNOW THEIR CUSTOMERS. I DON'T, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO UH, UH, ARE THEY AFRAID THAT THEIR ADVICE WOULDN'T GET RENTED IF THEY DIDN'T? I DON'T THINK A BILL. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT. I THINK IS IT CULTURAL? IT'S CULTURAL. AND I THINK ALSO THAT THEY'RE AFRAID THAT PEOPLE WILL TAKE THEM OFF AND NOT RETURN. SO WE TRIED TO TAKE THAT ARGUMENT AWAY FROM THEM BY, OKAY, YOU'RE NOT PAYING US FOR THESE, SO PUT 'EM ON AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AS MANY AS YOU WANT. UH, BECAUSE, UH, I GUESS, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING THROUGH LIKE CRAZY. UH, AND WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT. IF YOU ALL DON'T HELP US OUT, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT TO OUR STATE GRANT. IT'S APPROVED THIS FALL SO WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. BECAUSE I MEAN, WE, WHEN WE WROTE THE GRANT, OH, WE HAVE 10,000 BILLS. YOU HELP GET 10,000 BE WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT OF THEM IN 10 MONTHS. AND SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT IS A GOOD THING, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FOR EVERY BELL THAT GETS ON A BIKE, THERE'S PROBABLY ONE OR TWO YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR TWO BUCKS IT'S THE BEST $2 INVESTMENT YOU GET. IT'S NICE TO SEE THEM. YEAH. IT'S, THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN BE BRI THAT EASILY THOUGH. HERE, FOUR BUCKS IS, IS THERE, AND THIS, THIS IS JUST AND EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT THAT YOU COULD PUT INTO THIS THAT, UM, WOULD SOMEHOW INFLUENCE MORE BIKERS TO BE ACCEPT, ACCEPT, ACCEPT THIS AS A, AS A, AS A COMMON THING, AS A PROTOCOL. WELL, OTHER THAN BEATING THEM UPSIDE THE HEAD AND THEY'RE MOUNTAIN BIKERS, SO THEY HAD HELMETS ON. SO I DUNNO. THAT'S GOOD. ALL WE COULD DO IS JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVE 'EM OUT. TELL 'EM ABOUT 'EM. AND WE GAVE A TON OUT AT THE FESTIVAL TO BIKERS. UH, NOW WE TRIED TO BRIBE THEM TO GIVE DONATIONS SO THEY COULD BUILD MORE TRAILS FOR THEM. GIVE A TOKEN AND GIVE THEM A BE. BUT YOU KNOW, LOT OF THEM GO ON THE BIKES AND THEN THEY, UNFORTUNATELY THEY GO ELSEWHERE, BUT THEY COME BACK. COULD WE GRIND KEVIN TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE, UH, FOREST SERVICE, THE, THE RANGER DISTRICT WEBSITE ABOUT BELLS? WE SURE COULD. WE CAN TALK TO, I COULD TALK TO ALEX ABOUT THAT. OR YEAH, NEXT WEEK I AM SEEING, UH, AARON MAYVILLE. UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE AT FOR IN 40 MINUTES. YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THAT. I WON'T STEAL THAT THUNDER. YEAH, WE'LL START WITH AARON. I MEAN, JUST, I'LL PUSH IT FROM MY SIDE TOO. FROM THE BACK COUNTRY HORSEMAN SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE CAN GET 'EM THAT, UH, UH, YOU GET THE FOREST SERVICE TO DO IT. YEAH. CITY. IF YOU WANT TO GET A PERMIT, UH, LOT A BUSINESS IN THE CITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA RENT BIKES. LET'S MAKE IT AN ORDINANCE. PUT A BELL ON A BIKE. WELL, WE CAN START WORKING ON THAT TOO. . GO AHEAD PAT, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING? UM, FIGURE IT WAS ABOUT $500 IN THIS, UH, PROPOSED ACTIVITY. WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE? TRAVEL AND TRAINING? I PUT TRAVEL. YEAH. IS THAT OUR, OUR, THAT'S OUR GROUP. OUR THE GROUP BUDGET. ORGANIZATIONAL BUDGET PROGRAM. BUDGET. WELL, NO, THAT'S A PROGRAM BUDGET. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I SAW. OH, OH, OH, OH. UH, THAT'S, UH, REIMBURSING US FOR GAS AS WE DRIVE AROUND. IT WAS THERE TO SERVICE THE BOXES. YES. IT IS 30 MILES ROUND TRIP FOR ME. OH, OKAY. TO DO THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE UH, WE GET THE GAS BACK. OKAY. AND WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR BUDGET, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES? OH, OH, WE CALLED THIS SUPPLY. WE CALLED THIS SUPPLIES THE EQUIPMENT WERE THE BASKETS THAT WE DID AND THE LITTLE BOXES THAT WE DID, UH, THE SIGNAGE THAT WE GOT. THAT WAS, UH, OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB KEVIN. ANYTHING ELSE? IF YOU SEE ONE, WHERE'S THE ONE? LET'S GET THE FAMOUS PIZZA HERE. UH, IF YOU WALK IN, UH, THE COUNTER'S TO THE RIGHT, IF YOU GO STRAIGHT, LIKE YOU'RE GOING BACK TO THE BATHROOMS, IT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT ON THEIR LITTLE COUNTER THING THAT THEY [01:00:01] HAVE THERE. UH, IF YOU GO TO UH, UH, ADOBE JACK TRAILHEAD, IT'LL PROBABLY BE EMPTY. 'CAUSE WE ONLY GET THERE SO OFTEN. AND BELL ROCK, I COULD GO THERE THREE TIMES A DAY AND STALK THAT AND I DON'T. BUT, UH, AND MARTY USUALLY DOES THIS. I AM JUST DOING THIS BECAUSE HE'S BEING EATEN BY LIONS. NEXT COUPLE . DO YOU STOCK THECAL TOO? THE TRIP? NO. NO. UH, A LOT CANYON, UH, WILLIAM FAYE, UH, DEVIL'S ARCH, THAT TRAILHEAD THERE, UH, BECAUSE IT HAS THE BIKE FIX STATION, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE FOREST SERVICE TO LETTUCE. PUT THOSE BASKETS ON THERE, UH, KIOSK. KIOSK. MM-HMM. , UH, WE WENT WITH THE PIPE FIXIT STATIONS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT TECHNICALLY FOREST PROPERTY BECAUSE THE CHAMBER BOTTOM AND DID NOT DONATE 'EM TO THE FOREST SERVICE AND THE BVCC UH, MAINTAINS THEM. SO, UH, AND, AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE. I MEAN, THEY GAVE US A LETTER TO SUPPORT THE FOREST STATE GRANT. AND, UM, UH, SO WE PUT 'EM THERE, AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET 'EM ON THE KIOSK. UH, AND THEN WHO KNOWS WHERE THEY'LL GO. I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU SO YOU CAN PASS IT. HORSES ARE NOT AS DUMB AS THEY LOOK. KEVIN, I'M SORRY. HORSES ARE NOT AS DUMB AS THEY LOOK. I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LOVE EQUESTRIANS. UM, BUT AS WE'RE RIDING ALONG NOW, HE HEAR, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE HORSES ARE PREY ANIMALS. SO IF THEY, IF SOMETHING'S COMING UP BEHIND THEM, THEY GET FREAKED OUT AND THEY KNOW FROM WAY BACK IF SOMETHING'S COMING UP. OH, YEAH. BLACK. AND JACK HEARS A BELL NOW, AND HE'S TOTALLY CALM. AND AS IT GETS CLOSER, BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT IT IS, HE GET, HE GET, AS IT GETS CLOSER, HE KNOWS WHAT IT IS, AND HE JUST PULLS OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. HE JUST GETS OFF THE TRAIL, LETS IT GO BY AND OFF WE GO AGAIN. AND THEY HEAR THIS ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY. YES, THEY DO. AND THEY DON'T, DON'T, DON'T HEAR IT WAY BEFORE YOU DO IT. OH, NO. AS YOU CAN KNOW, AS BELL OR NO BELL, THEY KNOW IT'S COMING, BUT IF HE KNOWS IT'S A BELL, HE, HE, HIS EARS DON'T GO BACK. NO, HE JUST, HE'S JUST FINE. HE JUST FLICKS BACK, LISTENS TO IT, AND KEEPS GOING. HE'S TOTALLY FINE WITH IT. BEST THING I EVER DID WAS PUTTING A BELL ON MY PLATES. YEAH. NO. AND I TELL, I THANK EVERY PERSON THAT PASSES ME. THANK YOU FOR A BELL. AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE ONE AND THEY COME UP MY REAR END OR HIS REAR END, I SAY, YOU NEED A BELL. AND THAT'S WHERE I YOU WANT SOME MORE TO GET THEM? NO, NO. I DO. I KEEP THEM IN MY PATH, IN MY HORN BAG. SO ANYWAY, I CAN'T. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO YOU'VE BEEN TAKING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BEEN TAKING ALL THESE, I DIDN'T KNOW THE STATIONS WERE THERE. I CARE. MARTY GAVE ME A BOX OF THEM LAST YEAR AND I CARRIED 'EM AROUND THE TRUNK OF MY TRUCK. , THANK YOU. CC PUT ON THE BACK. I DID. I LOVE IT. I'M ALL FOR THAT. AND THEN WE PUT, WE KEEP THEM IN THESE, AND I HAVE NOT NOTICED THAT THERE'S A LITTLE, LITTLE, NO, THEY'RE DRAWN, THEY'RE DRAWN AWAY. BUT THAT WAY WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE IN THE RAINS, THEY DON'T GET YUCKY, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, THEY CAN GET REAL YUCKY. REALLY? YES. THANKS DUDE. THANK YOU. YOU LATER I'LL SEE YOU IN ABOUT, UH, 30 MINUTES. OKAY. FOR THE NEXT ONE. HE'S PROBABLY THE BEST GRANT WRITER ANYBODY'S EVER SEEN. YEAH. HE'S HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. YEAH. AND A GOOD SALES PERSON. HE IS. I MEAN, HE REALLY, HE IS SUCH A PERSONABLE YEAH. UH, CAN REALLY PUT IT OUT THERE. MM-HMM. THINK SO CONVINCINGLY, I THINK. YEAH. I KIND OF IMAGINE THESE ARE GONNA BE HUGE AND I'M GLAD IT'S A GOOD SIZE ONE. YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE. WELL, THE BACK COUNTRY HORSEMEN OVER IN PRESCOTT HAVE BEEN GIVING THESE OUT FOR A WHILE, AND, BUT THEY HAVE THE BIG COWBELLS KNOW I NEED TO SHOW THEM THE MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING HERE. NOT THE BIG COWBELLS, I THINK, BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE. YEAH. PLUS THE ATTACHMENT METHOD IS WELL THOUGHT, THOUGHT OUT. UM, ACTUALLY, I SHOULD PROBABLY, OH, HE LEFT HIS CLIPBOARD. HUH? HE COMING BACK. WE'LL BE HERE IN 30 MINUTES, NOT JUST RIGHT AWAY, BUT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. . REAL FUN. OKAY. WHO DO WE HAVE NEXT? WE HAVE GOT . AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, CHRIS? UH, ACTUALLY NO. ARE YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD WITH THEM. THIS WAS A REPEAT OF THEIR LAST, THEIR PREVIOUS ONE. YEAH. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY GOT BETTER WITH THEIR STATS THIS TIME. YES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ST. VINCENT? YEAH. I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WAS OF 2023 IN NUMBERS. DID I MISS THAT? NO, IT, YEAH, I SAW IT. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. LAST YEAR'S REPORT, THEY SERVED SIX RESIDENTS AND EIGHT NON-RESIDENTS FOR 5K. THAT'S [01:05:01] WHAT WE GAVE THEM LAST YEAR. YEAH. WASN'T A LOT. WELL, IT WAS NEW. IT WAS A NEW PROGRAM. OKAY. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT? WELL, IT'S, IT'S A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE. PRETTY LARGE IMPACT TO A SMALL NUMBER. YEAH. IT REALLY IS A SMALL NUMBER. WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S MAYBE A QUESTION THAT, UM, SOMEBODY I'LL ASK IT IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO IS, YOU KNOW, FOR $5,000. HOW MANY PEOPLE? 11? UM, WELL, SIX RESIDENTS. SIX RESIDENTS. EIGHT NON-RESIDENTS. HM, OKAY. THE EIGHT NON-RESIDENTS. I WONDER WHO THEY WERE. PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH SIX RESIDENTS. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO 11 PEOPLE INTO 5,000 BUCKS IS, UM, SO YEAH. 40, 4700 A PIECE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO. YEAH. NOT, I MEAN, $470. WELL, THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, SPEAKING, IT'S NOT, ONE VEHICLE DOESN'T JUST ALWAYS IMPACT ONE PERSON. YOU KNOW, IT ALSO IMPACTS THE FAMILY KIND OF SITUATION. WELL, LET'S EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT. FIND OUT IF THESE ARE SINGLE PEOPLE OR SEE ABOUT THE NUMBER. BUT $400 IS NOT MUCH. I MEAN, MY GOSH, WHAT? FOR A VEHICLE REPAIR? YEAH, A VEHICLE REPAIR OR EVEN A T WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COST TICKET OUT OF TOWN. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE ON. SO I GUESS IT'S NOT THAT I WAS SO SURPRISED HOW MUCH I HAD TO BUY TWO BATTERIES THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW? AND I WAS SO SURPRISED HOW MUCH THE PRICE OF BATTERIES HAVE GONE UP LATELY, BUT JUST LIKE REALLY, REALLY SURPRISING. I GUESS THEY'RE IN DEMAND. ARE WE READY? WE ARE. YEAH. IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE THEY DID A NICE JOB OF VETTING THE PEOPLE THAT THEY, UM, SERVED. YEAH. MM-HMM. . IT WASN'T JUST, UM, IF YOU ASK, YOU SHALL RECEIVE. IT WAS, UH, WE'RE GONNA CHECK THIS OUT FIRST, IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE PER CAPITA COSTS. RIGHT. , WHICH ARE UNAVOIDABLE. AND YOU HAVE POINTED OUT TO ME, MY GOSH. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HOW YOU DOING, ANDREW? HEY, ANDREW, TODAY. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD, THANK YOU. AND YOU? GOOD, GOOD TO YOU AGAIN. YEAH. RIGHT. WE LIKE THE WORD GRAND . CAN WE SIT DOWN HERE? YEP. IF YOU WOULD. I'M JOHN MORMAN, BY THE WAY. JOHN, HOW DO YOU DO JOHN? PRESIDENT? I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ST. VINCENT PAUL CONFERENCE HERE IN SEDONA. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THIS MAKES ME NERVOUS WITH, OH, WILL, WELL LET US INTRODUCE OURSELVES. YEAH. I'M STEPHANIE, CHRIS. CHRIS, PATTY. PATTY DEAN. YEAH. IS, SO THIS IS YOUR FIRST, UH, YOUR FIRST TIME, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. AND ANDREW, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN YOU BEFORE. HAVE YOU REPRESENTED ST. VINCENT DEPAUL IN THE PAST? YES, I HAVE. YEAH. YES. THIS MIGHT BE MY THIRD YEAR. YOUR THIRD YEAR. THERE YOU GO. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE AN OLD TIMER. YOU'RE A PROUD OH, I'M, YES. NO WAYS THAN ONE. YEAH. WELL, YOU'RE IN GOOD COMPANY THERE, . THIS IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU LOOK VERY MUCH ALIKE. ARE YOU RELATED TO EACH OTHER OR? I DON'T THINK SO. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. HE TALKS FUNNY . THAT'S TRUE. HE DOES. HE DOES. I MIGHT TALK FUNNY TOO. I'M ORIGINALLY FROM THE MIDWEST. OH, THERE YOU GO. AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU HAVE A SOUTHERN ACCENT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU. WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING BEFORE YOU CAME IN, UM, THE, UH, UPTICK IN THE QUALITY OF YOUR DATA REPORTING. OH, GOOD. SO THAT, THAT'S HELPED US A LOT. AND, UM, THE PROTOCOL HERE FOR YOU IS NEW, IS THAT WE'VE GOT 10 MINUTES WITH YOU AND, UH, WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS FIRST, AND IF WE RUN OUTTA QUESTIONS, THEN YOU CAN TELL US WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM. SO I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO THE PANEL PANEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THESE FOLKS? OKAY. SILENCE FROM THIS END. SO LET ME TELL YOU [01:10:01] WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT MEANS THAT YOU GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH YOUR REQUEST AND THAT OVER THE YEARS YOU'VE REALLY PRETTY MUCH DIALED IN WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM. YES. AND, UH, SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT MAKES OUR JOB A WHOLE LOT EASIER WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE ASSUMPTIONS AND THE GUESSWORK ON. OKAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND WE JUST HAVE, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU CONTINUE ALONG THOSE. THAT LINE IS LETTING US KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND, UM, ONE OF MY COMMENTS WAS, WELL, FOR 11 PEOPLE SERVED, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A, THE PER CAPITA COST IS QUITE HIGH. AND I WAS TOLD IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT BETWEEN CAR REPAIRS AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU GUYS ARE DOING, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PER CAPITA COST IS, IS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF WHAT IT COSTS TO, TO DO THAT. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU, I AM CURIOUS THOUGH, THE SIX, THE SIX FOLKS THAT WERE NON-RESIDENTS. CAN YOU GIVE US ANY, UM, INSIGHT? EIGHT NON-RESIDENTS, EIGHT NON-RESIDENTS? YEAH. SHE'S THE ENGINEERS. 8, 6, 8, AND SIX. CAN YOU GIVE US ANY INSIGHT INTO, UM, THE NATURE OF THOSE FOLKS AND, AND HOW IT IS THAT YOU SERVE THEM? WELL, THE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE A CONNECTION TO SEDONA. THEY LIVE, BUT WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY'RE LIVING IN THEIR VEHICLES. UM, I THINK IT WAS OUTTA FIVE OR SIX OF THEM. SO I DIDN'T QUITE KNOW HOW TO CLASSIFY THEM. THEY DON'T HAVE A UTILITY BILL TO SHOW, UH, SEDONA RESIDENCY, BUT THEY ARE WORKING IN SEDONA. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE LIVING AT THE MOMENT. PROBABLY OUT IN THE FOREST SOMEWHERE. BUT, UM, THEY, THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE EIGHT PEOPLE. WE, I DO HAVE A REPORT HERE, WHICH YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR. UH, AND I CAN SLIDE IT DOWN TO YOU, BUT LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY HELPED USING OUR FUNDS AND YOURS, 53 PEOPLE, WE FULFILLED 53 REQUESTS, WHICH WAS AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT $300 PER REQUEST. THE, THE REASON WHY YOUR NUMBER IS SO HIGH IS BECAUSE WE USED YOUR MONEY FOR THE HIGHER DOLLAR REQUEST THAT WE RECEIVED. UH, I'D LIKE TO THINK. SURE. YES. SO YOU CAN KEEP THAT SENATOR. I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT SENATOR. YES. WE'LL USE THAT TOMORROW. AND WE DO OUR DELIBERATION. SO ALL OF THE MONEY IS, UH, EARMARKED FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES. IT'S EITHER A TICKET OUT OF TOWN OR A BATTERY OR SOMETHING. IS THAT RIGHT? SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. YES. THE, UM, THE MAJORITY, A LOT OF THEM WERE EITHER AUTO INSURANCE. MM-HMM. CAR REPAIR OR A LOAN PAYMENT. THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE LOAN PAYMENT. YOU CAR LOAN PAYMENT. CAR LOAN PAYMENT. YEAH. BUT WE DID HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR NEW TIRES. UH, PEOPLE GOING OUT OF TOWN MAYBE FOR A FUNERAL WHILE THEY NEED TO GET DOWN TO THE VALLEY FOR SOME SPECIALIZED MEDICAL TREATMENT. UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY GOES. WE DO NOT SPEND IT ON GAS. MM-HMM. IT'S STRICTLY TO GET THE VEHICLE UP AND RUNNING AND GET THESE PEOPLE OUT ON THE ROAD. OKAY. WORK OIL CHANGES. MM-HMM. ? NO. UH, JUST ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. IT'S ALL FOR SAFETY OR AS ANDREW SAID, UM, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE NUMEROUS OTHER ISSUES, RENT, UTILITIES AND THINGS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY HAVE THE BRAKES NEED TO BE REPLACED. AND, AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THIS IS GONNA BE $800 AND I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY MY RENT. I MIGHT GET EVICTED. UM, HOW DO PEOPLE FIND YOU? I THINK WORD OF MOUTH. MM-HMM. . UM, OR THEY, THEY KNOW SOMEBODY THAT IN THE PAST MAY HAVE GOTTEN HELP, OR MAYBE THEY'RE A MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH OR THEY'RE IN A HISPANIC, UM, COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR CHURCH. AND, UM, WE'LL FIND OUT THAT WAY. WE ALSO, WE HAVE A FOOD BANK EVERY THURSDAY AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF SERVICE PASS ROAD. MM-HMM. . AND WE CAN, WE CAN COME INTO CONTACT WITH A LOT OF CLIENTS, NOT ONLY FOR FOOD REQUESTS, BUT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST AS WELL. SO WE SERVE ABOUT 50 FAMILIES EVERY WEEK ON A THURSDAY DISTRIBUTION FROM NINE TO 11. THAT MANY. AND LAST TWO WEEKS IT'S BEEN OVER 50 DURING HOLIDAY SEASONS. THANKSGIVING DAY, THERE OVERLAP BETWEEN THAT AND THE SEDONA FOOD BANK. WELL, THEY SERVE ON WEDNESDAY. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THEY SEE SOME OF OUR, A FEW OF THEIR WORKERS ALSO VOLUNTEER AT OUR, I SEE. OUR FOOD PANTRY. AND SO [01:15:01] THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE, WE KNOW THEM FROM SEDONA FOOD BANK. BUT, UH, AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION, WE DO REQUIRE, UM, ALL CLIENTS THAT WE DO HELP, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A REGISTRATION AND INSURANCE THAT'S ALL UP TO DATE THAT THEY ARE MISSING ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WE WILL NOT HELP US. YES. I NOTICED YOU, YOU HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE. YOU HAD 326 REQUESTS, BUT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HELD WAS LIKE A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED. RIGHT. SO THAT PROBABLY KNOCKED OUT QUITE A LOT OF THEM. AND WE TRY TO DO IT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING FOR THE WORKING. SOMETIMES WE GET REQUESTS FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DRIPPING THROUGH AND THEY COME IN AND THEY, MY AIR CONDITIONING'S NOT WORKING WHILE THEY'RE LIVING IN THEIR CAR ANYWAY. YEAH. OR THEIR VAN OR WHATEVER. IT'S LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUDGE THE SITUATION AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GRANT PEOPLE OR WE'LL ASK THEM, WELL HOW MUCH CAN YOU AFFORD? SO WE JUST DON'T TAKE FULL AMOUNT. WE INTERVIEW THAT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD. WE WANT THEM TO HAVE SCALE TOO. AND PLUS OUR RESOURCES ARE LIMITED. YES. WELL, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, ALL THAT'S, UH, THE PIECE OF PAPER RIGHT THERE. OH, THANK YOU. BREAK DOWN ON THE ASSISTANCE, TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE. MM-HMM. ABOUT 300. REQUEST ONE. PEOPLE DRIVING SAFELY SO WE'RE NOT RUNNING INTO OTHER SEDONA RESIDENTS OR STARTING A FIRE SOMEWHERE OUT IN THE FOREST SOMEWHERE. WELL, EXCELLENT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? NO, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OF ALL, FOR DOING THIS JOB VOLUNTEERING. AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE US. YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING TO HELP WITH COMMUNITY AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR GIVING AWAY MONEY AS PEOPLE WIND UP. YEAH. WELL WE CAN'T. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS WELL. OKAY. YOU GUYS HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY, YOU GUYS, AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. THANK YOU. PLEASURE. WOULD YOU LIKE A COPY OF THAT? GIVE, WE'LL USE IT TOMORROW. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE MY ONLY COPY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THIS YOUR, CAN I ASK YOU WANNA MAKE ME A COPY? I'LL MAKE A COPY. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. HAVE COPIES. YOU LIKE THEIR OWN COPY? YES. NOT INDIVIDUAL. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL JUST TAKE A PICTURE. JUST ONE IS FINE. TAKE NEVER HAVE A GOOD DAY. YOU LOOK WELL. TAKE CARE. THANKS GUYS. THANKS ANDREW TO SEE YOU. ANDREW. AND YOU KEEPING WELL? YEAH. YEAH. YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD. LITTLE BIT. YEAH. YEAH. GOOD. OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS YEAR. IS THAT WILDCATS PROGRAM? I KNOW IT WAS STARTED WITH A DONATION BY A TRO BY BA AND MIMI. IS THAT CONTINUING? I MEAN, I KNOW THE PROGRAM'S CONTINUING. IS THE DONATION CONTINUING OR IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PICKING UP THE, THAT I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN FIND OUT WITH ONE PHONE CALL. WELL, I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS. IT'S A CURIOSITY THING. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THIS GRANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WELL, I CAN MAKE THAT PHONE CALL. DON'T ASK ME. THAT'S FINE. IT'S EASIER TO SEE. YEAH. EASIER TO FIND ON THAT. YEAH. EASIER TO FIND. EXACTLY. THAT WAS ANOTHER JOB OF TRAINING. MY QUESTION FOR HIM IS, WHAT ARE THE SALARIES, WAGES, BENEFITS, AND OTHER RELATED COSTS. YEAH. WHO IS HE PAYING? THAT'S MY QUESTION. HE PAYS THE, THE TEACHERS THEY GO IN THE AFTERNOON. [01:20:01] THAT'S WHAT I ASSUME. IS THAT WHAT YOU ASSUME IT? LET'S ASK HIM. I ASSUMED, I DUNNO, THAT'S, BUT YEAH, IF HE'S SUPPLEMENTING THE TEACHER'S INCOME MARKETING PROMOTION. YEAH. 'CAUSE HE HAS 60 UNPAID VOLUNTEERS. YEAH, BECAUSE, SO YEAH, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY, HE DOESN'T HAVE A STAFF, PAID EMPLOYEES. SO REALLY THOSE SHOULD PROBABLY BE CONSULTING FEES CONSULTANTS. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THAT'S A MINOR POINT. ARE WE READY? YEAH, GO AHEAD. SURE. LET'S GO GET RICHARD I . WE HAVE OUR OWN PROGRAM, BUT YEAH. RICHARD HOWARD. GOOD MORNING. HI, THIS IS PETER. RICHARD. YES. A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. APPRECIATE IT. NO, OUR PLEASURE. THANK YOU FOR YOURS. UM, YOU KNOW THE DRILL. MM-HMM. , UH, PANEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CITY, PLEASE? YES. I THINK WE JUST HAVE A FEW ON YOUR, ON YOUR BUDGET WORKSHEET ON JUST CLARIFYING THINGS ON, ON THE, UH, SHEET HERE. ONE IS THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY THAT WAS FOR. SO SOMETIMES OUR GARDEN TEACHER, YOU KNOW, IS LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE SEDONA AREA. AND WE REIMBURSE HER FOR HER MILEAGE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCREASE OF, UH, GAS PRICES. AND, UM, SO THAT, AND WE DO THAT AT THE NEW RATE OF SEVEN 65 CENTS AN HOUR, WHICH IS THE NEW RATE FOR, UM, VOLUNTEERS AND EMPLOYEES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO IT'S NO TRAINING. IT'S, IT'S, UM, NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY, ALTHOUGH, UM, THE TRAINING IS MOSTLY ON THE JOB WITH INTERNS OR, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. SO IT ISN'T AN EXTRA EXPENSE SPECIFICALLY SOMETIMES, ALTHOUGH, JUST TO LITTLE PARENTHESES, UM, WE PARTICIPATE WITH THE SCHOOL GARDENS COMMUNITY IN PRESCOTT. AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE GATHERINGS WHERE THEY BRING TOGETHER, UH, SCHOOL GARDEN COORDINATORS AND TEACHERS AND, AND DO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WEB, UH, NOT EXACTLY WEBINARS, BUT IT'S IN PERSON NOW. BUT THEY DO HAVE GATHERINGS AND THEY SHARE IDEAS. SO WE, WE HAVE, WE DO REIMBURSE THAT IF OUR COORDINATOR CHOOSES TO GO THERE. IS THAT PART OF, OF THIS PROGRAM COST? YES. IT, WELL, IT WOULD BE WITH THE, IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSONNEL. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT, THAT TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE. NO. OR JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT MONEY WOULD BE FROM OTHER SOURCES, SO, OKAY. VERY GOOD. MM-HMM, I, THE MONEY THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS STRICTLY FOR THE TEACHING, RIGHT. THE TEACHING, THE TEACHING ASPECT OF IT ON THIS PROGRAM BUDGET? YES. OKAY. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORDER. OKAY. UH, AND ALSO OUR, YEAH. ALL THE MONEY THAT, UM, WE RECEIVE FOR THROUGH THE CITY PAYS THE TEACHERS WHO HAVE DIRECT FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT WITH THE KIDS. WITH THE KIDS. SO ABOUT 175 KIDS, IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S ABOUT THE NUMBER THAT ARE ENROLLED IN THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. UHHUH. AND THE WAY THE WESTONA SCHOOL WORKS IS THAT THE CHILDREN, WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT, UM, THREE OR THREE 30, THEY CHOOSE THE ACTIVITY THAT THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN. SO IT ISN'T LIKE THEY SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME. RIGHT. THEY USUALLY ARE GARDEN OR ART PROGRAM TEACHER. THERE WOULD BE SIMULTANEOUS WITH DIFFERENT TEACHING PERSONNEL. UM, THEY KIND OF TRY AND LIMIT IT AT A MANAGEABLE AMOUNT OF 15 KIDS. ALTHOUGH IN THE GARDEN THEY CAN GO UP TO 20 KIDS. SO IT'S REALLY THE CHILDREN WHO ARE DETERMINING THE ENROLLMENT EACH DAY THAT WERE THERE. WELL, THAT'S ENCOURAGING, ISN'T IT? THAT THERE'S YOUR WELL IT IS. UM, IT'S KIND OF A, A VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK THAT SO MANY KIDS WANT TO DO THAT. YEAH. SO DID YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR APPLICATION? HOW MANY KIDS ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE GROUP? UM, I DON'T RECALL. YEAH. YOU'VE GOT, HE'S GOT 150 HERE, 150 OUT OF 175. WELL, [01:25:01] IT'S, IT VARIES. I MEAN, THEY COME AND GO, YOU KNOW. OKAY. AND IT'S TWO SEMESTERS. IT'S THE FALL SEMESTER AND THEN THE SPRING SEMESTER. AND WE SEE DIFFERENT KIDS OFTEN. ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THE KIDS OPT TO REPEAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY ENJOY THE ACTIVITY. MM-HMM. . RICHARD, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT'S NOT RELATED TO YOUR REQUEST, BUT, OKAY. HOW LONG IS A SEED VIABLE? SO IF YOU, IF YOU GET A SEED MM-HMM. , UM, AND YOU KEEP IT FOR HOW LONG? BEFORE PRETTY MUCH POOPS OUT. IT'S NOT, DOESN'T GERMINATE. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE SAVING IT IN. MM-HMM. . SO IF IT'S A COOL, DRY, DARK SPOT, IT CAN SAVE, STAY A LONG TIME. BUT, YOU KNOW, SEATS ARE LIVING BEINGS AND IF THEY'RE EXPOSED TO, UM, HARSH CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS THAT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THEY LIKE TO BE COOL, DRY, DARK IF YOU'RE SAVING THEM. AND IN THAT CASE, THEY FOUND SEATS THAT HAVE LASTED OVER 800 YEARS IN TOMBS. MM-HMM. . SO, AND THOSE SEATS TURNED OUT TO BE VIABLE. THERE'S SEVERAL EXAMPLES. AND IN FACT, IN THE VERDE VALLEY, SOME PEOPLE ARE GROWING 800 YEAR OLD SQUASH SEED THAT WERE FOUND IN THE SOUTHWEST. WOW. WOW. THEY'VE BEEN SAVED AND, AND CONTINUED TO BE PROPAGATED AFTER THEY WERE DISCOVERED. SO I CAN TELL YOU FOXTAIL SEEDS, WHAT'S THAT? FOXTAIL SEEDS LAST FOREVER. OH, THEY DO. AND THEY MULTIPLY CRAZY. IT'S A CRAZY YEAR FOR FOXTAIL. YEAH. SEEDS ARE PROGRAMMED FOR SURVIVAL. THEY ONLY WANNA REPRODUCE AND MULTIPLY. MM-HMM, . WELL, GOOD. THAT'S ENCOURAGING. SO I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET TOPIC. I THOUGHT THIS I HAD, I'M NOT HERE FOR GARDENING QUESTIONS. I KNOW. WE'LL GET OFF THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SLIP THAT IN. YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. I KNOW IT WAS BURNING IF BURNING QUESTION AND YOU LOSING SLEEP OVER IT. SO NOW I CAN KIND OF NO, I LITERALLY, I I WON'T EVEN GO THERE WITH, I DON'T EVEN HAVE TIME FOR THAT. AND I HAVE ONE MORE BUDGET, UM, QUESTION. SURE. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR, UH, SALARIES AND WAGES VERSUS CONSULTANTS AND, AND FEES. OKAY. SO SALARIES AND WAGES AND WHAT WE PAY THE TEACHING, UM, PERSONNEL, THE TEAM OF TEACHERS. AND THEN WE HAVE A, A PROGRAM COORDINATOR. AND I KIND OF PUT HER IN AS A CONSULTANT BECAUSE SHE WRITES GRANTS, SHE'S WRITTEN GRANTS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FUNDING. AND SHE KIND OF WORKS WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS. SHE'S A TEACHING ARTIST ALSO. BUT SHE, WHEN SHE SUBMITS AN INVOICE, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF IT. ONE IS FOR TEACHING AND ONE IS FOR, UH, COORDINATION. OKAY. AND, AND THEN THAT WE KIND OF BUNDLE THAT AS, UM, CONSULTANT I DO. AND THEN ME AS WELL, WHICH I, IT'S ALL PRO BONO. SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE ON THE BUDGET SOME, UM, IN KIND DONATIONS OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND BOOKKEEPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SOME OF MY, UM, WORK LIKE ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT SEEDS, UM, AS A CONSULTANT SIT DOWN, UM, 10 MINUTES OR SOMETHING LIKE ATTORNEYS DO. YEAH. BUT THAT'S PRO BONO. THAT'S PRO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE FOR EQUIPMENT OR SUPPLIES, WHICH KIND OF, A LOT OF IT IS DONATED. AND A LOT OF IT, UM, FOR THIS PROGRAM THAT WE IDENTIFY HERE IS STRICTLY WEST SEDONA SCHOOL. 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME PROGRAM IN FOUR OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE COTTONWOOD AREA AND AT THE SCIENCE VORTEX. SO THE COTTONWOOD SCHOOL, THERE'S A TOOL SHED AND THERE'S A LOT OF TOOLS THERE FOR THE KIDS, UHHUH. AND, YOU KNOW, THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS IN. SO THE, THE EXPENSES ARE VERY SMALL AND SOME OF IT IS DONATED AND SOME OF IT IS THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON HAND. UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES THAT WE HAVE ON HAND, UH, THAT WE USE. SO IT'S REALLY, EXCEPT FOR THE ART, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S DESIGNATED, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ARTISTS WILL BUY CERTAIN ART MATERIALS. SURE. YOU KNOW? YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE UNDER MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US, RICHARD? WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES. THANKS FOR THREE MINUTES. HELPING US MAKE KIDS HAPPY. THANK YOU. AND PARENTS ALSO WHO ARE WORKING AND PICKING THEIR KIDS UP LATE. UM, SOME PEOPLE ASK WHY THIS ISN'T A IN SCHOOL PROGRAM, I MEAN, DURING CLASS HOURS, BUT ALL WE FOUND, ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA ARE OFFERING EXTENDED DAY. UM, AND ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE USUALLY TITLE ONE, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOW INCOME AND UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS. AND THE EXTRA CONTACT [01:30:01] TIME, UM, WITH ADULTS AND CREATIVE PROJECTS HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL OVERALL TO THEIR ACHIEVEMENT. YES. AND, UM, SO ALL THE COTTONWOOD SCHOOLS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THAT, UM, AS WELL. PLUS THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A REAL ISSUE WITH LATCHKEY KIDS, KIDS GOING HOME TO EMPTY HOMES AND SO FORTH. SO THIS PROVIDES SUPERVISED, ENRICHING ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS. HOW LATE IN THE DAY MIGHT THAT? IT GOES TILL FIVE O'CLOCK. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE PARENTS START PICKING THE KIDS UP NO LATER THAN FIVE. SOME COME A LITTLE EARLIER, UM, DEPENDING ON THEIR WORK. WOW. SO IT'S PRETTY DAYCARE AS WELL. MM-HMM. . I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SOME ACCOLADES TOO FOR YOUR ESSENTIALLY LIFETIME OF, UH, WORK IN THIS CONSERVATION. AND HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT NO. ACCEPT. I THINK I REMEMBER. YEAH. WE'VE RECEIVED SOME RECOGNITION. MM-HMM. NICE. MM-HMM. IN YOUR LAST MINUTE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US OR SHARE WITH US? I CAN COUNT TO 60 IF YOU LEAVE YOU GUYS TO BREATHE. WE'LL SEE YOU. THANKS. THANKS SO MUCH. GOOD TO SEE YOU SO MUCH. AND NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. YEAH. BEEN A LONG TIME. IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. IT HAS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY, IT'S NICE TO KNOW ABOUT THE EXTRA BENEFITS, WHETHER BE FREE DAYCARE FOR THE, I MEAN, OH NO, THAT'S, THAT WHOLE WILDCAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN GREAT PROGRAM. I GUESS THERE IS NO OTHER PROGRAM. OKAY. WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HEAR THE STATISTICS, 70% OF WEST KIDS VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW, FIT UNDER THE FREE AND REDUCED PRICE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR TITLE ONE, UM, QUALIFICATION, IT'S JUST, IT'S LIKE, WHOA. I HAD NOT HEARD OF THE SCIENCE VORTEX. OH, YEAH. IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL. WELL, IT'S A, NOT IT'S NOT A SCHOOL, BUT IT'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT OPERATE OUT OF COTTONWOOD. PRIMARILY UHHUH. I'VE NEVER GONE TO ANY OF THEIR EVENTS PARTICULARLY, BUT YEAH. I'LL LOOK IT UP. YEP. THANK YOU. IT'S LIKE A STEM PROGRAM. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM? NO, I HAVEN'T EITHER. NO. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT KEEPS US VERY BUSY HERE. OKAY. WHEN YOU DO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, IS IT THE SAME SORT OF THING? OR DO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE DAYS? UM, TOGETHER, I THINK WE MET A TOTAL OF MAYBE FOUR DAYS. MM-HMM. OVER A COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND, UM, WE COULD ASK FOR THE PRESENCE OF LIKE THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO EXPLAIN OUR BUDGET IF WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AND, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO WE, IT WAS QUITE A INVOLVED PROCESS, BUT A LOT OF, A LOT OF GOOD WORK. BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S RECRUITED VOLUNTEERS AND THEY DON'T REPEAT. OH, THEY DON'T? NO, THEY DON'T WANT TO KEEP, WHICH IS A SHAME. YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU'RE TRAINED SOMEBODY. UNBELIEVABLE. THAT'S INCREDIBLE. BUT IF, IF YOU WANT TO REPEAT, WILL THEY LET YOU? I DON'T KNOW. I COULD ASK KEEGAN, SHE'S THE, SHE'S THE RECRUITER. YEAH. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE NOW YOU'RE TRAINED. MM-HMM. . WE HAD A GREAT GROUP TOO. WE HAD, SO I SAID ONE WACKO, BUT FOR SOME REASON SHE DIDN'T GET THE, UM, FOLLOW UP MEETING TIMES CORRECTLY. OH, YEAH. I SEE. THEY REQUEST EVERY YEAR FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY. I'M LIKE, OH GOD, A BOOK. NO, IT'S REALLY SO REALLY USEFUL. IT'S REALLY USEFUL. OUR, OUR APPLICATIONS ARE, SOME ARE USUALLY 30 PAGES LONG OR MORE, UH, WHAT IS IT WITH THE, THAT COMMITTEE? DO YOU I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM KEEGAN SAYING, ED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS? YOU'D BE GREAT. AND HERE ARE THE MEETING DATES IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, AND I NEED TO KNOW TODAY. AND HOW MUCH WORK, LIKE WE HAD A MONTH OF READING. HOW MUCH WORK DID YOU HAVE TO DO? IT'S FAIRLY SIMILAR. NOT THAT, I MEAN, IT WASN'T, YOU DIDN'T PUT IN A MONTH OF WORK ON THIS. YOU PUT IN, YOU HAD TIME. TIME TO A MONTH. RIGHT. SO IT IS LIKE, I'D SAY YOU PUT IN ABOUT A WEEK OF WORK, 40 HOURS. OH. SO THEY LIKE GIVE YOU EVERYBODY'S BUDGET AND YOU GO THROUGH IT AND MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . [01:35:01] AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE AND TALK TO THE GROUP AND GET A CONSENSUS OR A ARGUMENT OR A, WE NEED TO LEARN MORE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE SAW THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE HOUSING, UM, DIRECTOR. TONS OF PEOPLE CAME IN AND EXPLAINED THEIR BUDGET. AND THE WAY I AM ARGUED FOR MORE MONEY, WE KNOW YOU'RE DONE, I'M DONE. BUT WE WEREN'T A DECISION BODY. WE WERE A, UM, ADVISORY VITAL. BUT APPARENTLY THEY TAKE YOU PRETTY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP AND SPEND HALF A DAY IF THEY NEEDED TO WITH THIS. SO, YEAH. JUST DIDN'T SOUND FUN, . IT'S VERY ENLIGHTENING. IT REALLY IS. I MEAN, WHAT'S THE CITY'S BUDGET? A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, IT'S HUGE. WE'RE READY. LET HER RIP. YES. KEVIN'S BACK. DON'T FORGET HIS CLIPBOARD. NOPE. I'LL GRAB IT FOR, THIS IS YIELD FUND. RIGHT? THIS WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. YEAH. IT'S THE SAME STUFF. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE TALKING WHEEL FUND? YEAH. WHEEL FUND. ASK. I'M GONNA ASK A LOT OF MONEY FOR 25 STUDENTS. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. HEY, CABIN. GOOD MORNING. HEY, UM, I'M GONNA PUT THAT IN HERE, SO HOPEFULLY I DON'T LEAVE IT. OKAY, DARLING, WE NEED YOU TO JUSTIFY ALL THIS MONEY TO THESE TWO KIDS. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? SELL ME, SELL US. SELL US ON WHY THIS MUCH MONEY FOR A FEW KIDS? WELL, UH, AS I PUT IN THE GRANT APPLICATION COSTS ABOUT $22 A KID TRY TO DO THIS PRIVATELY. $150 A KID. WE DON'T CHARGE THE KIDS ANYTHING. UH, SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. WE STARTED WITH 28 TOTAL, JUST FOR THE NEED FOR THIS PROGRAM. WE STARTED WITH 28 TOTAL BIKES AT FOUR VERDE VALLEY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE FALL OF 2018. TODAY WE HAVE 350 BIKES IN 30 SCHOOLS ACROSS ARIZONA. NEXT WEEK WE'RE TAKING 45 KIDS, THREE OF 'EM FROM SEDONA TO FLAGSTAFF FOR A WEEK. THIS, WE DID NOT ASK ANY MONEY FROM THE CITY FOR THIS, FOR A NO CHARGE SLEEPAWAY CAMP. WE'RE NOT ONLY THEY GONNA BE RIDING BIKES. I GOT THE WHOLE ENTIRE UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE INVOLVED. THEY GIVING THEM INTERACTIVE LEARNING SESSIONS ON, THEY'RE GONNA GO SEE THE ALTITUDES, WHICH I'VE NEVER SEEN. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, UH, WALNUT CANYON. THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO DO VOLUNTEER TRAIL WORK. THEY SAY, LEARN THAT TRAIL WORK ISN'T FREE. UH, AND THE TRAILS DON'T COME FREE. THE A BIG REASON FOR THIS IS THIS GETS KIDS SOMETHING TO DO BESIDES GET IN TROUBLE. UH, MOST OF THE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO SCHOOLS IN THE VERDE VALLEY, AND EVEN IN SEDONA, BOTH OF OUR, UH, ELEMENTARY AND OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL HERE IN SEDONA, IS A TITLE ONE SCHOOL. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? YEAH. MM-HMM. . YEP. MOST OF THE KIDS THERE WOULD NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE WHAT WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DO. AND THAT'S GO RIDE A BIKE. UH, BOTH SCHOOLS HAVE, UH, CERTIFIED MOUNTAIN BIKE INSTRUCTORS, UH, AS THE HEAD COACHES. PAM OCK AT, UH, SEDONA JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL. LAURIE, UH, GONZALEZ AT, UH, WEST SEDONA ELEMENTARY. SO IT'S JUST NOT SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO RIDES A BIKE. THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY BEEN TRAINED TO TEACH KIDS HOW TO RIDE BIKES. BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MOUNTAIN BIKERS OUT. WE REALLY AREN'T. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE 'EM SOME EXCITEMENT IN THE SCHOOL DAY OTHER THAN, AND GETTING 'EM OFF CELL PHONES, GETTING 'EM OFF SCREENS, AND GETTING 'EM INTERACTING WITH OTHER KIDS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. WE'VE BEEN, NOW, THIS WILL BE OUR SIXTH YEAR AT, UH, WEST SEDONA, FIFTH YEAR AT SEDONA JUNIOR HIGH, AND THE SEVENTH AT OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE VERDE VALLEY. SO WE'RE POPULAR ON CAMPUS. KIDS WANT TO DO IT. WE'RE LIMITED BY THE NUMBER OF BIKES. SO, BUT, UH, UH, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO FOUND THAT WE'RE ALSO LIMITED BY THE KIDS, BECAUSE AT THAT AGE, THEY WANT TO TRY OUT LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. [01:40:01] AND SO, UH, THE MORE THEY HAVE TO TRY OUT THE BETTER, I BELIEVE. AND, UH, SO, UH, SOMETIMES WE'LL GET A KID THAT RIDES WITH US FOR FOUR WEEKS AND THEN GOES AND JUST DOES BASKETBALL. WELL, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE KID THAT WAS DOING CROSS COUNTRY OR ARCHERY NOW COMES AND RIDES. SO JUST TRY TO GIVE THESE KIDS SOMETHING TO DO, MENTOR 'EM UP WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M A RETIRED MILITARY OFFICER, FORTUNE 500 EXECUTIVE. YOU KNOW, MARTY OWNED A BUSINESS. UH, YOU NAME IT. SO THESE KIDS ARE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH. UH, WE ALSO GET, I THINK, GET TO BECOME FRIENDS WITH THEIR PARENTS. UH, IT JUST SHOCKS ME THAT, UH, I COACH NOT IN SEDONA. I COACH AT OAK CREEK OVER IN CORN EVERY FRIDAY. I TAKE KIDS TO FLAGSTAFF WITH ME TO GO RIDE. IT SHOCKS ME THAT THESE PARENTS TRUST ME. AND OF COURSE, THEY HAVE A LEVEL ONE FINGERPRINT CLEARANCE CAR. MM-HMM. . BUT IT, THESE PARENTS ARE TRUSTING ME WITH THEIR KIDS TO TAKE THEM TO GO RIDE WITH THEM. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NORMALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE KIDS. IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO MOVED HERE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND NOW I GET TO GET INGRAINED IN THE COMMUNITY AND ME JUST WONDERFUL PEOPLE. SO IT'S A WIN-WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND. KEVIN, CAN YOU, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE RECORDING, UM, AND FOR OUR BENEFIT AS WELL, SHARE AN ANECDOTAL STORY OR TWO, UH, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THESE KIDS ON THE BENEFITS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU'VE SEEN, UM, A DEVELOPMENT OR, WELL, THIS, THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF SEDONA. I WILL BE UP FRONT AND TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE I DON'T COACH HERE. I COACH AT OAK CREEK SCHOOL IN VILLE THIS SPRING. WE HAD A LITTLE GIRL, SARIAH, SHE COULDN'T RIDE A BIKE WHEN SHE STARTED WITH US. AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OAK CREEK SCHOOL IN VILLE, IT'S RIGHT THERE AT, UH, THE CORNER OF, UH, UH, UP TOP OF THE HILL FROM MORMON'S CROSSING. THIS LITTLE GIRL COULD NOT RIDE A BICYCLE. WHEN WE STARTED THE LAST RIDE AT THE END OF APRIL, WE TOOK THE KIDS DOWN, WILL SPRINGFIELD'S, WHERE THEY WERE, WILL SPRINGFIELD. WE TOOK 'EM DOWN TO THE CREEK AND WE LET 'EM GO SWIMMING IN THE CREEK. THAT'S A GOOD SIX TENTHS OF A MILE DOWN. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, SIX TENTHS OF A MILE BACK. GUESS WHO RODE UP THAT HILL SARIAH SIX WEEKS LATER? SHE WAS SO PROUD. SOME OF THE OTHER KIDS THAT COULDN'T HAVE, SHE JUST GRINDED. SHE RODE THAT WHOLE WAY UP. IT WAS LIKE SHE CONQUERED THE WORLD. MM-HMM. . THAT'S HOW EXCITED THAT LITTLE GIRL WAS WHEN, WHEN SHE DID THAT, AND THAT ALL WE DID WAS TEACH HER HOW TO RIDE A BICYCLE, WHICH SOMETHING EVERY KID SHOULD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO. SHE'S IN THE FOURTH GRADE AND DID KNOW HOW TO RIDE A BICYCLE. UH, WAYNE ARMSTRONG, UH, WAYNE'S ONE OF THE KIDS THAT COMES WITH ME, PARENTS LIKE ME, AND I TAKE THEM UP TO FIVE STEP ON FRIDAY. WAYNE WAS BORN BLIND IN ONE EYE. HE'S ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH DEPTHS PERCEPTION. HE TOOK TO MOUNTAIN BIKING LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. HE STARTED IN THE FOURTH GRADE. HE'S NOW GONNA BE A FRESHMAN AT MENEZ THIS FALL. UH, I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH HIM ANYMORE. WHEN HE STARTED, HE WAS THE SLOW LANE. NOW HE'S THE FAST LANE AND JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH HIM ANYMORE. AND JUST WATCHING THIS YOUNG MAN DEVELOP AND WATCHING SARIAH WHEN SHE CONQUERED THAT HILL, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS MORE EXCITED. SHE OR THE COACHES THAT WATCHED HER DO IT, . IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST AMAZING. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THESE LIVES. I WENT TO, UH, LANE'S PROMOTION TO NINTH GRADE. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY KIDS IN THAT SCHOOL CAME UP TO ME, COACH KEVIN, COACH KEVIN, COACH KEVIN. AND SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED THIS, IF YOU'D ASK MY LUIS, MY WIFE, IF I WOULD BE DOING THIS, SHE WOULD SAY, NO, HE DOESN'T LIKE KIDS. UNTIL THE FIRST ONE CALLED ME COACH AND WELDED MY HEART. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, AND TODAY I'M DRIVING. AS SOON AS I LEAVE HERE, I'M DRIVING DOWN TO TUCSON TO INTERVIEW SOMEBODY WILL FUND IS NOW HIRING. SO THIS LITTLE NON-PROFIT THAT STARTED WITH 28 BIKES IN THE VERDE VALLEY IS NOW STATEWIDE. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HIRING PEOPLE BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE GROWING UP AND, UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE WE'RE REACHING THE POINT WHERE VOLUNTEERS ARE TAKING IT SO FAR. WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. UH, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH ONE FINAL THING. IT DID NOT HAVE, I DID HAVE A QUESTION. OH, YES. OH, PLEASE. ON, ON YOUR BUDGET WORKSHEET. MOST OF IT IS, UH, FOR SALARIES AND WAGES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS YOU HAVE ONE. WE HAVE, WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR RIGHT NOW, WE CONTRACT WITH THE SEDONA MOUNTAIN BIKE ACADEMY. AND WHAT THEY DO FOR US IS THEY GIVE THE COACHES THE FREEDOM TO JUST COACH. SO THEY COME ON IN AND ANYTHING WE NEED WITH THE BIKES, THEY DO, THEY ALSO MOVE BIKES AROUND FOR US. UH, THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL THE LOGISTICS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. SO THE COACHES JUST HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING WITH KIDS. [01:45:01] AND THAT'S, THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK VOLUNTEERS JUST COME AND, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT'S THE BEST VOLUNTEER GAME IN THE WORLD, RIDING BICYCLE, SOME KIDS, IT'S A LOT TO ASK THEM TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE GIVING THEM ALL THE SUPPORT THAT THEY CAN MUSTER. AND WHEN YOU HAVE, WE'RE GONNA, THIS FALL, WE'LL HAVE CLOSE TO 500 BIKES. SO IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH HORSES, IT'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. NO, BIKES ARE JUST A LOT OF MAINTENANCE TOO. IT'S LOGISTICS. YEAH. YOU GOT IT. I, YOU'RE NOT HEARING IT FROM ME. I, I ASK YOU, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD DEAL YOURSELF WITH THE FIRST AID, BUT WHAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING MORE MEDICALLY? UH, WELL, FORTUNATELY THE SCHOOLS ALL HAVE NURSES AND THEY'RE THERE TILL FIVE O'CLOCK. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, CELL PHONE AND NINE ONE ONE, UH, BACK IN 2018, SECOND RIDE WE EVER HAD, HENRY WENT OVER THE HANDLEBARS. WE CRACKED HIS RIBS. FORTUNATELY IT HAPPENED AT THE SCHOOL. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE INSURANCE THEN. AND I'M THINKING, OH MY GOD, WE'RE GONNA GET, WE'RE GONNA GET SUED. WE'RE GONNA GET SHUT DOWN. HE TOOK OFF, TAKES OFF. THEY TOOK HIM. HE WAS FINE. THAT SPRING, HIS DAD WROTE A LETTER TO THE VERY INDEPENDENT TALKING ABOUT OUR PROGRAM AND HOW I GOT HIM OFF OF ELECTRONICS. SO IT WENT FROM, OH MY GOD, WE'RE GONNA GET SUED TO HIS DAD. BECAME OUR, OUR GREATEST SUPPORTER, UH, ONE OF OUR, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. UH, FORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T DO AWAY WITH ALL THE RISKS AND HAZARDS, BUT THAT'S WHY WE INVESTED IN A CURRICULUM. SO WE START RIGHT FROM THE VERY BASICS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEUTRAL POSITION AND JUST, WE, WE HAVE A PROGRESSIVE 20 COURSE CURRICULUM. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE TEACH 'EM THE PROPER WAY TO RIDE. WE ALSO TEACH 'EM HOW TO BE SAFE. CYCLING SYSTEMS DON'T GO DARTING OUT IN THE STREET. YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF. UH, WE ALSO TRY TO TEACH 'EM TRAIL ETIQUETTE AND, UH, TRAIL STEWARDSHIP, UH, . SO THEY BECOME, WHEN THEY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS SESSION, HOW HARD IT IS TO GET MOUNTAIN BIKERS TO PUT BELLS ON THEIR BIKES. ALL THESE KIDS ARE RIDING AROUND WITH BELLS ON THEIR BIKES. SO WE'RE TEACH WE'RE WE LIKE, OKAY, WHO GET 'EM BEFORE THEY GET HARD HIT. WELL, YOU'RE CHANGING THE CULTURE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. YES. THAT THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE AMBASSADORS RISK. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO NOW I'M OFF TO TUCSON. UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE JOURNEY. I, I NEVER WOULD'VE, I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE WE CAUGHT LIGHTNING ON THE BOTTLE AT THIS. IT'S, AND, AND THE NEED IS THERE BECAUSE, I MEAN, SCHOOLS ABOUT BEFORE, THE HARDEST THING WE HAD TO DO WAS GET MIND SHARE WITH THE SCHOOLS. BECAUSE I'M A MOUNTAIN BIKE. I SHOW UP AND I GO TALK TO A PRINCIPAL. WELL, OUR PRESIDENT IS A PRINCIPAL WHO DOESN'T EVEN OWN A BIKE. SO SHE GIVES US CREDIBILITY. AND NOW THE SCHOOLS ARE STARTING TO COME TO US. YEP. THAT'S GREAT DEMAND. DARWIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. AND THANK YOU ALL NEXT WEEK. I AM REVIEWING 45 GRANTS FOR THE STATE. I KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DID, AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. REGARDLESS IF I GET A GRANT OR NOT. , I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, BELIEVE ME. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. TAKE CARE GUYS. TAKE CARE. DRIVE CAREFULLY. YOUR CLIPBOARD. I GOT MY CLIPBOARD. OKAY GUYS, A LITTLE BREAK. SO YOU'VE GOT 10 MINUTE BREAK. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA TURN THE RECORDER? YEAH. ALRIGHT. OKAY. TURN RIGHT NOW. I'LL TRY NOT, THEY'RE ASKING ME TO. OKAY. OH, MERCY. HOW WE DOING GANG? OKAY. OH, WHAT I'M HAVING MY HARD TIME WITH. AND IT'S BECAUSE OF MY HARD SCIENCE BACKGROUND. OKAY. AND I FULLY ADMIT TO BEING NOT A SPIRITUALISTIC PERSON. UHHUH . YEAH. IT'S A STRUGGLE. IT'S, IT'S THE WISDOM AGE THING. WHEN I READ THEIR BACKGROUND AND THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THEY DO. MM-HMM. . OH MY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S LIKE SPOON BENDING CLASSES. IT'S . LOOK AT IT. I I READ THEIR WHOLE [01:50:01] WEBSITE. YOU KNOW, I'M SERIOUS. NO. OH NO. I, I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I'M LAUGHING. THE SPOON BENDING CLASS, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. ALLEGORY IS PERFECT. TEACHING PEOPLE TO GET UP OFF THEIR WHEELCHAIRS BY CONNECTING ENERGY FIELDS. YOU KNOW? SO, I MEAN, I'M THINKING SEEING CHURCHES, , I'VE SEEN CHURCHES THAT DO THAT. THIS IS NOT, THIS IS TOTALLY NOT A SCIENCE BASED DATA DRIVEN ORGANIZATION. WHICH IS WHAT MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATISTICS AND THE NUMBERS AND HOW VALUABLE IT'S GONNA BE. I MEAN, I REALLY, THEY'VE GOT 450 GRAND IN THE BANK. YEAH, I KNOW. WHICH JUST SUDDENLY AND 60, 68 OR 69,000 IN LIABILITIES. NO, WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. NO, I'M GOOD. I'M GONNA GET ICE. MUST BE UP. THANK YOU. OH, LUNCH IS SERVED, GUYS. YEP. WONDERFUL TO TAKE CARE. VERY NICE. NO, I, YOU KNOW, I COMPLETELY HEAR YOU. I I TOTALLY HEAR YOU. IT IS A STRUGGLE. WELL, BUT THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE DO. I MEAN, I, THERE THERE ARE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO BENEFIT FROM YOU. YEAH. I, I, I UNDERSTAND. AND I CERTAINLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN THAT SORT OF THING. AND, AND IT'S NOT, IT ISN'T THAT OUR CURRENT METHODS FOR ADDICTION WORK. THEY DON'T. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO MY YEAH, NO, I GET THAT. NO, I KNOW. BUT BETTER WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. WELL, ANYWAY, I THOUGHT SHE DID A GOOD JOB. SHE DID A GREAT JOB. REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. I WAS REALLY, I WAS AMAZED HOW MANY TIMES AT ALL IN THERE. GET IN THERE. HOW ARE YOU, LAUREN? WEDNESDAY. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU WE'RE SO BE HERE SO FAR. YOUR SCHEDULE IS RIGHT. SHE SIGNED HER UP FOR WHAT THEY CALL IT WIRES. YOU HAVE TO LIKE ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DRIVE A BIKE AND SHE CAN'T. AND MIKE'S LIKE, SHE'S STILL GOT TIME. I'M LIKE, HEY, IT LIKE WEEKS. THEY NEED HER TO LIKE, THEY SAY LIKE, FOR SEVEN SECONDS. SO, YOU KNOW, UM, SHE'LL GET THERE. SHE'LL TO GET THERE. SHE'LL PROBABLY, WELL THEY TOLD HIM THEY WERE LIKE A RIDE. [01:55:12] I HAD COVID ABOUT HOW LONG AGO NOW? ALMOST FOUR WEEKS TO THE DAY. AND I STILL GET REALLY TIRED IN THE AFTERNOON. SO IF YOU SEE ME NOD OFF, JUST, I DON'T KNOW, THROW SOMETHING AT ME. IT'S REALLY BEEN AN ISSUE. LIKE MAN. AND I'VE ONLY HAD IT ONCE. AND THAT WAS, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME. JANUARY IS, MY SISTER HAD IT FOR DECEMBER. MM-HMM. . AND SHE WAS ON MOM DUTY AND SHE SAYS, YOU CAN COME NOW AND I'M GOOD. SO I SHOWED UP. SHE WASN'T, SHE GAVE IT TO ME. OH NO. BECAUSE WE DID THE HANDOFF. WELL, USUALLY AFTER 10 DAYS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, I THINK SHE JUST WANTED OUT OF THERE AND WANTED TO GO HOME. . . YEAH. I'M FLYING HERE. WHAT'S THE LIKE IN VEGAS THESE DAYS? IT IS SO CROWDED. IT IS AMAZING. HMM. MY MOM WAS IN NORTH LAS VEGAS. OKAY. IT WAS HORSE PROPERTY. WHEN SHE MOVED THERE. UHHUH, MY DAD USED TO CONSTANTLY RUN OFF THE ROAD INTO THE DIRT. 'CAUSE THEY HAD NO STREET LIGHTS. AND IT WAS VERY RURAL. AND IT IS LA NOW, IS IT NORTH LAS VEGAS? OH MY GOD. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO AND NOW IS QUITE NOTICEABLE. WOW. WOW. WOW. WONDER WHY. MY GOD. WOW. AND I ENDED UP SPENDING SOME QUALITY TIME WITH THEIR ANIMAL CONTROL. 'CAUSE WHEN I TOOK MY MOM'S DOGS FOR A WALK, WE GOT ATTACKED. OH MY GOD. BY A BIG DOG. OH WOW. UM, SO ANIMAL CONTROL CAME OUT TO TALK TO ME AND I HAD THE COLLAR FROM THE ATTACKING DOG. SO HE GOT TO GO VISIT THE OWNERS. WOW. AND HE SAID, YEAH, IT'S TURNED INTO A ZOO SINCE JUST, IT HAS EXPLODED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED THERE FROM LOS ANGELES. OH, IS THAT RIGHT? I REMEMBER, I MEAN, I'M FROM PHOENIX. I REMEMBER PROBABLY I WAS MAYBE 18 OR SOMETHING. I REMEMBER DRIVING TO VEGAS WITH A FRIEND. WE HAD A PERSON WHO HAD, WHOSE PARENTS HAD A COMPANY, A SMALL COMPANY THERE. AND WE WENT TO A NIGHTTIME, OUTDOOR SHAKESPEARE SPHERE. REALLY PLAY. IT WAS SO COOL. I MEAN, IT WASN'T, IT IS NOT, I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT. I'M NOT REALLY A SHAKESPEARE NUT, BUT JUST BEING OUTSIDE IN THE, THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL AREAS. MM-HMM. . WELL, MY MOM'S AREA IS NOT SO COOL. THERE'S A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT SHE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER. THANK KEVIN. SHE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. SHE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. BUT YEAH, HER NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUICKLY DETERIORATING. SHE'S NOT . WE HAD THE SWAT TEAM TWICE. THEY KILLED GOAT. THE GUY CROSSED THE STREET, PULLED A GUN ON HIS WIFE AND HE HAD THE, SO SWAT CAME AND ENDED UP HAVING TO KILL HIM. OH MY GOSH. WE HAD THEM IN THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD SHOOTING TEAR GAS INTO THE HOUSE BEHIND US BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH DRUGS. THAT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WERE IN AUSTIN LAST YEAR AND WE'RE AMAZED AT ALL THE HOMELESS TENTS AND THE PUBLIC AREAS, THE MEDIANS OF THE STREETS. AND IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE. YEAH. NO, THE SUPREME COURT HAS NOT RULED ON THAT QUITE YET. AND THEY, THEY, THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD THE HEARINGS, THE US SUPREME COURT, I THINK. IS IT? WELL, I THINK THEY'RE GOING BY AN OLD HEARING, WHICH SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T MOVE PEOPLE FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY. BUT THAT WAS RIGHT. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN, I THOUGHT IT WAS, IS IT COME UP RE ADJUDICATED OR WHATEVER THE RIGHT WORD WOULD BE. I HOPE SO. I HOPE SO. IT'S AMAZING. THERE'S A CVS TWO BLOCKS AWAY WHERE I GET MY MOM'S PRESCRIPTIONS. MM-HMM. . MY SISTER, LAST TIME SHE WENT THERE TO GET A REFILL, SHE WALKED IN JUST IF THE PLACE HAD BEEN ROBBED, SHE WAS GOING IN THE DOORS. THEY WERE RUNNING OUT. SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. THAT'S HERE IN SEDONA? NO, IT'S IN VEGAS WHERE MY MOM LIVES. IT'S A PRETTY ROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD. OH YEAH. THAT'S SCARY. MY HUSBAND DOESN'T KNOW THESE THINGS. , HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T LET YOU GO. EXACTLY RIGHT. HE DOES NOT KNOW THESE THINGS. WELL, HE'D HAVE TO RELOCATE. RELOCATE HER. BUT THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN IF SHE MY MOTHER. NO, SHE'S NOT MOVING. SHE DOESN'T WANNA LEAVE HER HOUSE. [02:00:01] NO, NO. 95. SHE'S NOT MOVING. YEAH. WOW. 95. THAT'S GREAT. I SUPPOSE SHE DOESN'T GO OUT THAT FAR. NO, SHE, SHE ONLY GOES WHERE WE TAKE HER. SHE DOESN'T WALK AROUND. DO YOU HAVE SECURITY SYSTEMS ON HER HOUSE AT ALL? NO, JUST THE BARS. BARS. ALL THE WINDOWS. WHAT DO YOU DO? THE FORTRESS. BUT YEAH, WHEN WE HAD THE COPS AROUND THE HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET, WHAT DOES MY MOM DO? TURNS THE PORCH LIGHT ON. OPENS THE DOOR AND STEPS OUT. OH MY GOD. . SO I HAD TO DRAG HER BACK IN. TURN THE LIGHT OFF. MM-HMM. . AND THEN WE HAD THE A COP COME AND TELL US, DON'T DO THAT. STAY IN THE HOUSE. YEAH. I GOT THAT . AND YOU MENTIONED HOSTAGE. DO YOU GO THERE A LOT? NO. NO. BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, I'VE GOT A NEPHEW WHO'S DOWN THERE. OH. SO WE'RE IN THE NECK OF THE WOODS. WE'LL STOP BY. BUT UNDERSTOOD. MY WIFE WAS BORN IN AUSTIN. OH. HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE? I'M A SLOW EATER. A BIT OF TIME. OKAY. THERESA, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW MUCH TIME YOU ALL HAVE PUT INTO READING THOSE GRANT PROPOSALS, STARTED, THIS STARTED EARLIER THIS TIME. I STARTED THE FIRST WEEK IN, WELL LAST WEEK IN APRIL. THAT WAS WHEN I FIRST STARTED READING. STARTED IT BEGINNING TO SEEM LONGER TO ME. . WELL, AND THEN THIS YEAR WE HAD REALLY A VERY HUGE COMPONENT OF ALL THE, THE LAST YEAR'S THINGS, WHICH YOU READ AS WELL, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. . IT HELPS TO HAVE THE FINAL REPORTS THOUGH. MM-HMM. . IT DOES, IT DOES. WELL, I NOTICED THERESA, YOU WERE WORKING AT 6 31 NIGHT, SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH, IT'S, UM, KIND OF COME WITH TERRITORY WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, SO, OH BOY. MOSTLY JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO KEEP UP ON. YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA EVENTUALLY FIND OUT, UM, WHO THE BIG OWNERS ARE. UM, IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE DATA I HAVE IS BASICALLY OWNER MAILING ADDRESS AND COUNSEL ASKS FOR LIKE THE NAMES OF THE LLCS. MM-HMM. AND I COULD CERTAINLY RUN A REPORT AND DO THAT AND PROBABLY WILL THIS MONTH. UM, BUT GOOD THE REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN CONVINCING, EVEN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WHO'S AN OWNER OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT THEY CAN PUT, THEY SHOULD PUT THEIR PROPERTY IN AN LLC. AND THE MYTHOS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, IF YOU SELL YOUR PROPERTY AND THE PERMITS IN AN LLC AND THE PROPERTY'S IN AN LLC, IT'LL JUST TRANSFER. AND I KNOW THAT CITY ORDINANCE IS GONNA BE TIGHTENED THIS YEAR. IT CLARIFIES YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SO, UM, BUT YOU, YOU CAN'T PUT YOUR PROPERTY IN THE, YOU CAN'T SELL, YOU CAN'T TRANSFER THE PERMIT. SO PEOPLE ARE, A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW WHAT I'M SEEING THIS YEAR IS, BUT THERE'S NO CHALLENGE IN GETTING A PERMIT. NO, NO, THERE ISN'T. BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM HAVE THEM. MM-HMM. . UM, AND WHAT'S WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON IS THAT PROBABLY ABOUT A THIRD OF ALL OUR STRUCTURED RENTAL PROPERTIES HAVE MORE THAN ONE UNIT. SO THEY MAYBE HAVE TWO UNITS. AND WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED, IT WAS ONE PERMIT FOR PROPERTY. SO IF YOU HAD TWO UNITS ON YOUR PROPERTY, BOTH OF THEM COULD BE ON THE SAME PERMIT. AND THAT IS GONNA CHANGE. SO IT'LL BE ONE PERMIT PER UNIT. AND SO WE'RE GONNA CAPTURE PROBABLY ANOTHER, I'M GUESSING TWO TO THREE UNITS. WOW. SO THERE THAT MANY MULTIPLE OWNERS, I MEAN OWNERS OF MULTIPLE PROPERTIES. YEAH. WELL, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE PROPERTIES AND WE DO HAVE QUITE A NUMBER OF OWNERS THAT OWN MULTIPLE PROPERTIES, BUT THEN WE ALSO ALSO HAVE OWNERS WHO HAVE MORE THAN ONE UNIT ON A PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY OWNER WHO'S, WHO HAS MORE THAN SAID 20 HOMES? NOT THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY. NO, NO. WHEN, WHAT SHERRY'S PROBLEM WAS SHARING. OH, WELL, NEVERMIND. YEAH, IT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION. [02:05:01] WELL, WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER AND WE CAME FROM A CALL IDAHO, AND THEY REGULATED SHORT TERM RENTALS THERE AND SHE IS ASKING SOME QUESTIONS. SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE, UM, WHAT COMES OF THAT. THE OTHER, QUITE HONESTLY, THE OTHER REAL LIMITATION PROGRAM IS IT'S A ONE MAN SHOW AND ALL THESE REALLY GREAT RESEARCH THINGS ARE GREAT, BUT I'M DOING, YOU KNOW, THE FACE, THE FACE TO FACE CUSTOMER SERVICE ANSWERING QUESTIONS, SETTING UP ACCOUNTS, RETIRING ACCOUNTS, RUNNING ALL THE REPORTING. AND OUR SOFTWARE'S NOT SMART. OUR SOFTWARE'S BASICALLY RUN A SPREADSHEET AND COMB THROUGH IT FOR ACCURACY AND DISTRACT OUT WHAT WE WANT. SO, UM, A LOT OF THESE THINGS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DOING, BUT IT'S A LOT TO KEEP UP WITH. WE HAD A SHORT TERM RENTAL FIGO TO SPRINGS FOR A FEW YEARS. AND, UH, THE LIST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAD TO ACCOMPLISH EVERY YEAR WAS QUITE, QUITE SIGNIFICANT. I THINK I SHARED IT WITH HOLLY ONCE AND IT WAS, I MEAN, IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, REGISTERED LETTERS THAT GO TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, THERE WAS A HOME INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD RADON DETECTORS AND FIRE PREVENTIONS AND ENOUGH SPACES TO PARK AND YADA, YADA, YADA, YADA Y AND IT WAS SEVEN $50 A YEAR FOR THE FEE. SO THAT PAYS FOR A LOT OF STUFF. IT DOES. UH, I WAS VERY INTERESTED. I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. AND FIVE YEARS AGO IN LAS VEGAS, SUE ANN'S FAMILY WANTED HER TO CELEBRATE BIRTHDAY. AND THERE WAS A, YOU, EVERY PERSON WHO STAYED AT THAT HOUSE THAT WEEKEND SIGNED AND THAT THEY HAD READ AND AGREED TO THE RULES, THEN YOU KNEW HOW TO GET CONTACT EACH ONE. AND OUT FRONT IN PALM SPRINGS IN FRONT OF EACH OF THAT RESIDENCE WAS A SOUND RECORDING DEVICE SENSING DEVICE. SO THEY ALREADY KNEW HOW MUCH NOISE WHILE IT WAS A POOL THERE, SO YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE LOUD AT NIGHT, THAT SORT OF THING. SO I MEAN, I WOULD'VE LOVED THAT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. BUT THAT WAS AMAZING. THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO NOW. BUT THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE IT SETS PRECEDENT FOR THIS CITY TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SAY WELL OTHER CITIES DO IT. EXACTLY. MM-HMM. , DID HE HEAR ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED? EXCUSE ME. WELL, THE ISSUE IS WE ARE SO SEVERELY LIMITED BY THE STATE. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THAT LITTLE SHORT LIST THAT THE STATE GIVES US IS WHAT WE CAN REGULATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE TO MAKE HOMEOWNERS AS WELL. SO LIKE NOISE DETECTORS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REAL, THERE WAS SOME REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, WANTING THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO CITE PEOPLE AND WRITE A TICKET AFTER THE FIRST NO DEFENSE AND COMMENT WAS, WELL WE DO THAT. WE'RE DO THAT FOR EVERYBODY. HOMEOWNERS, EVERYBODY. SO THE STATE HAS BEEN PRETTY SNEAKY IN TERMS OF YEAH. PROVIDING US WITH THEM. AND THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM. AND THE VILLAGE IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK, THE BIGGEST LIKE ORIGINAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS THE ONE THAT'S CALLED C**K, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE OAK CREEK COUNTRY CLUB AND THAT'S IT'S ENORMOUSLY NUMBER OF PROPERTIES. MM-HMM. . AND SOME YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY CHANGED THEIR BYLAWS TO RESTRICT SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND NOW I THINK YOU HAVE TO, I THINK THEIR TERM IS ONE MONTH IS WHAT THEY'VE SAY NOW. SO NO REAL SHORT TERM RENTALS. UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, A MAN CHALLENGED THAT HE HAD GOTTEN HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE OR SOMETHING THAT MM-HMM. THAT HAD BEEN AROUND SINCE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND HE WANTED EVERY SHORT TERM RENTAL AND HE SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T. AND HE BROUGHT THAT TO, TO COURT AND, UH, JUST RECENTLY, AND IT WENT I ALL WAY UP ALL THE WAY TO STATE SUPREME COURT. YEAH. MM-HMM. THE STATE SUPREME COURT JUST RECENTLY RULED AND SAID HE'S GOT A RIGHT TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL, THAT RESTRICTION WAS NOT IN THE VERY ORIGINAL WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT. NOT WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, WHEN THE, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE. WHEN THE ORIGINAL CC AND ARTS MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . SO THEREFORE THE OWNER WHO BOUGHT THE HOUSE, WE HAD THE EXPECTATION, BUT THAT WAS ALLOWABLE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN CHANGED MM-HMM. , IT'S GONE. SO NOW BOCA HAS BEEN DOING FINES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS FOR YEARS. SO HOW MANY, WHAT KIND OF STUFF ARE THEY GONNA BE GOING THROUGH? MM-HMM. AS AN HOA [02:10:01] TO TRY TO, TO KIND OF GO BACK, GO BACK AND GO BACK AND GO BACK AND KIND. WE CAN'T. ANYWAY. I KNOW A GUY WHO'S ON THE BOARD OF, AND HE WAS SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE A RIDE . MM-HMM. . THERE ARE ATTORNEYS WHO SPECIALIZE IN PRINTING LAWSUITS THAT JUST NEED, AND THEN WHEN YOU CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO FIGHT, THEN OF COURSE YOU SOME INTERESTING THINGS GOING ON. VOCA SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON THAT SUIT. NO, I'M SURE THEY DID. I'M IN A DIFFERENT AGE. O SMALL ONE AND RCCR STATE RIGHT THERE. MINIMUM SIX MONTH RENTALS. SO, SO IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, AND AT LEAST SO FAR WE DON'T. THAT'S OKAY. AND WE'RE BRACKETED BY SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO DID THEY SAY IT WAS OKAY FOR THIS GUY BECAUSE IT WAS STAYED IN THE FAMILY? IF THEY, THEY HAD SOLD IT TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON, WOULD IT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT? NO, I, I THINK IT WAS MORE GENERAL THAN THAT. I JUST THINK IT SAYS THAT MATTER. THE CC, RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE CC AND R, UNLESS THEY, THEY COULD HAVE THE CC THEY COULD AND THEN IF THEY TRANSFERRED, THE NEW CCNRS WOULD'VE APPLY TO THE, YEAH. SEE, I, I DON'T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF IT. I JUST KINDA HEARD THE, THE BIG NEWS, YOU KNOW, NOT THE, NOT THE IMPORTANT DETAILS RUN. SO MY EFFORTS LARGELY BEEN FOCUSED ON TRYING TO GET PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATE P OA PROPERTY OWNERS, EDUCATION, PROPERTY MANAGERS, GET MY BOARD WITH COMPLIANCE SURE. AND OWNERS, AND GET 'EM ON BOARD. AND I'M GONNA EXPAND MY EDUCATION TO INDIVIDUAL OWNERS STARTING THIS YEAR. AND SO WE CAN REGULATE VERY LOW, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE CITY IS COOPERATIVE, EXPECT TO COME TO US FOR HELP. SO AT LEAST I'M NOT FERRETING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S RENTING AND WHO'S NOT. AND I'M SURE THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THEM THAT I CAN'T CATCH BECAUSE THEY'RE ON SOME WEIRD WEBSITE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BUT IF THEY'RE ON A WEIRD WEBSITE, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GETTING A LOT OF BUSINESS. SO, WELL, THERE'S SOMEBODY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, THERE'S A COUCH SURFING WEBSITE WHERE LIKE YOU SHARE YOUR PLACE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. HMM. AND THEY HAVE LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE AT THIS HOUSE. AND I TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HE SAID, IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, IT'S A DUCK. SO EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY ISN'T COLLECTING MONEY, IT MIGHT BE AN IN KIND TRADE, WE COULD REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A PERMIT. BUT AGAIN, MY, THE ONLY ISSUE IS I, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME. YEAH. OUR WEB SCRAPING SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY OUR SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT CREATES THE ACCOUNTS OF PERMITS. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THERE COMES A POINT WHERE I HAVE ADDIT HEALTH, THEN I CAN TAKE ON SOME OF THESE MORE EARY HUNTING TRIPS. BUT FOR THE GAIN AND TIME SPENT. RIGHT. NO, IT'S, DO YOU HAVE LEE, IN TERMS OF SETTING A REGISTRATION FEE? THE STATE LAW RIGHT NOW ALLOWS US TO GO UP TO $250 PER PERMIT. THAT, AND WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY THAT COST AS THE COST OF OPERATION, SPECIFICALLY IN PERMITTING PROCESS PROPERTY. SO LIKE, NOT ENFORCEMENT. NOT ENFORCEMENT. OH GEEZ. UM, AND WE'RE STARTING TO PICK UP ENFORCEMENT. IN FACT, UM, HAD A CALL ABOUT A NOISE COMPLAINT. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND TALKED ABOUT HOW, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH VISIBILITY RIGHT NOW ON STRIKES AND REVOKING PERMITS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN REVOKE PERMIT WITH ONE STRIKE IS IF SOMEBODY HAS AN EVENT ON THEIR PROPERTY AT THE WEDDING, AND I TALKED TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND JUST ASK FOR THEIR HELP IF IT'S AFTER HOURS, AND APPARENTLY EARLIER THIS WEEK OR SOMETIME LAST WEEK, POLICE WERE CALLED FOR A NOISE EVENT AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A WEDDING AND THEY GOT THE FOOTAGE ON THEIR BODY CAM. GOOD THE FIRST TIME THAT WE CITE SOMEONE AND MOVED TOWARDS REVOKING PERMIT FOR HAVING A WEDDING. GREAT. SO YEAH, WE MAKE PROGRESS SLOWLY, BUT WE MAKE PROGRESS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CI EFFORT. YEAH. REALLY. DID I THINK THAT RIGHT TO THAT? [02:15:02] YEAH. THE BODY CAMERAS ARE RELATIVELY NEW. MM-HMM. , WHAT I SAID IN MY PRESENTATION, I THINK HOLDS TRUE. AND THAT IS THE STRENGTH OF THE PROGRAM AND THE WEAKNESS OF THE PROGRAM, BOTH ARE THAT WE'RE LOW TECH AND I HAVE TO TALK TO EVERYBODY. AND SO THE UPSIDE OF THAT IS BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AND MADE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM, THEY'RE PRETTY COOPERATIVE. AND BECAUSE THEY SEE ME AS A POSITIVE SOURCE, IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THEM DON'T BLOW ME OFF. AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO EXPAND THAT EDUCATIONAL PIECE. SO WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WITH ENFORCEMENT, I'M HOPING I CAN PLEASE CAPTURE MORE OF YOUR EDUCATION AND POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS. UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE GOT. AND WHY NOT USE CONCEPT? WHY NOT USE EVERY ANGLE? AND I KNOW COUNCIL WAS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON ENFORCEMENT AND PERCENTAGE WISE, THERE'S A LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN DO. SO WE'LL TRY TO PULL OUT THE HONEY AND YEAH. USE WHAT VINEGAR WE CAN, WHEN WE CAN USE IT. MM-HMM. . SO HAS IT GOTTEN BETTER WITH NOISE AND TRASH AND STUFF LIKE THAT? IT'S CYCLIC. UM, IT DEPENDS. PART OF IT IS PROPERTIES ARE TURNING OVER. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO RENEWED THEIR PERMITS THIS YEAR AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND SOLD THEIR PROPERTY. AND I GUESS $200 IS NOT AN IMPEDIMENT. SO WE'RE NOT SEEING A REALLY FAST GROWTH IN PROPERTY. IT'S CREEPING. BUT WHAT I'M SEEING IS A LOT OF NEW OWNERS, THEY BOUGHT AN EXISTING PROPERTY WITH A PERMIT BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT AT THE HIGH END OF THE MARKET. BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO A REALTOR FRIEND OF MINE AND HE SAID, THESE PEOPLE ARE BUYING IN AT THESE HIGH PRICES. AND THEN THE, THE THE USE THE RENTAL HAS JUST BOTTOMED. YEAH. SO THEY CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET. WE'VE GOT A PROPERTY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE SOLD FOR $2 MILLION AND IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL. NO. HOW DO YOU DO THAT? 25 GRAND A NIGHT OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW. A WEEK. I DON'T HOW IT WORKS. SOUNDS LIKE FAMILY, LIKE SOME KIND OF FAMILY TRANSITION. NO, NO. MM-HMM. THE REALTORS PUT IT IN THE AD, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM. OH, IT IT'S A BIG PLUS FOR REALTORS. THEY DO. YEAH. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. I DON'T KNOW PERCENTAGE WISE WHAT IT IS, BUT, WELL, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GRAB THEM AND EDUCATE THEM TOO. AND THEY'RE A LITTLE WHILE THEY'RE BUNCH, SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT, BUT SOME OF THE WEIRDEST STORIES I HEAR ABOUT WITH S RULES ARE COME FROM FILTERS. IT'S LIKE, WHO MADE THAT UP? MM-HMM. . BUT, UM, IT'S A, ALL WE CAN DO IS KEEP DOING WHAT WE DO. IT'S LIKE HAVING TEENAGERS, RIGHT. YOU GOTTA KEEP TALKING TO 'EM AND GETTING IN THEIR HEADS AND DOWN. AND THEY FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO GET AROUND THE RULES TOO. THEY DO. THEY DO. AND ALL WE CAN DO IS KEEP TRYING. I AM ACTUALLY PROBABLY HAVE SOME GENETIC DISPOSITION TO SISYPHUS. SO , IT KEEPS ME ENGAGED. IT LIKE, GIVE ME A CHALLENGE. OH YEAH. YOU KNOW, DROPPING DEAD TIRED, LEAD A WEEKEND. OH YEAH. IT'LL COME. BUT SOMETHING TO OVERCOME. I'M ALL FOR IT. IT'S A DEFECT, I THINK. WOW. YOU'RE A FIXER. YEAH. SOMETHING, I ONLY KNOW THAT 'CAUSE I AM TOO. OR A CREATOR BEING ABLE TO CREATE A PROGRAM. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE OCCUPANCY RATE HAS BEEN FOR SHORT TERM MONEY? I DON'T, WE DON'T, OUR SOFTWARE DOESN'T COLLECT THAT. MM-HMM. . YEAH. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD THAT IF I CAN DEVELOP THAT DIALOGUE OF OWNERS, WE COULD COLLECT IT. I KNOW THE CHAMBER HAD SOME BASIC STATISTICS, BUT I HAVEN'T PAID A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION TO 'EM. 'CAUSE LIKE THEIR NUMBERS FOR OUR NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN MINE. AND I'M LIKE, WHERE YOU SAY 1600, RIGHT? YEAH. AND YOU SAY 11. I SAY 11. AND A LOT OF THE SOFTWARE COMPANIES, LIKE, IT'S A REALLY FUN TRICK TO MARKET YOU. AND THEY'LL GO QUICK, HOW MANY SHORT TERM RENTALS DO YOU HAVE? AND I'LL GIVE A NUMBER AND THEY'LL SAY, WRONG, IT'S THIS. AND I'M LIKE, DID YOU FILTER OUT EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF CITY MINUTES THAT HAS A SEDONA NAME AND WHAT YOU THINK IS A ZIP CODE? BECAUSE THERE'S ABOUT 600 THAT OUR SOFTWARE CAPTURES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. MM-HMM. . AND SO IT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT BIGGER NUMBER. BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES AND OUR REGULATION, THEY DON'T, I TRACK 'EM, BUT THEY DON'T COUNT. THAT'S INTERESTING. YEAH, SURE. SO JUST [02:20:01] IN, UH, THE CANYON AND THE BOC AND YOU KNOW, JUST SOUTH, LIKE ON RED ROCK LOOP, THERE'S ABOUT 650 ADDITIONAL THAT ADVERTISES SEDONA. AND THEY'RE NOT, WELL, EVEN LIVING IN THE VOC WE HAVE A DIFFERENT POSTAL CODE, BUT THE CITY, THE CITY NAMED THE SEDONA. SEDONA. SO FRIENDS OF MINE THAT LIVE IN UPTOWN, THEY WERE GETTING THEIR FLOORS RESURFACED, SO THEY NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH THREE CATS. SO THE HUSBAND DID SOME RESEARCH AND SAID, OH, THERE'S, THERE'S A RENTAL HOUSE THAT ACCEPTS CATS AND IT'S IN SEDONA. AND HE WAS IN FLORIDA ON BUSINESS. SO THE WIFE PACKS UP, DRIVES THERE. IT WAS MCGUIRE BE OH MY GOD. ADVERTISED AS IN SEDONA. OH MY GOODNESS. THAT'S SO, SHE CALLED TO TELL ALL THE RESIDENTS, WE'RE NOT REALLY IN SEDONA, BUT IT'S OKAY. , ONE OF THE STAFF IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS RENTAL PROPERTIES. AND HER NEIGHBOR, SHE LIVES IN, UM, CAMP VERDE. AND HER NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND THEY ADVERTISE IT AS SEDONA. AND SHE'S LIKE, WE'RE NOT SEDONA. HUH? . BUT PEOPLE COME AND THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY HAD JUST MOVED FROM FLORIDA, SO THEY REALLY DIDN'T KNOW. AND THEY WANTED THE FLOORS REDONE. SO THEY WERE BARELY IN THE, THE HOUSE FOR LIKE TWO MONTHS WHEN SHE DECIDED TO RIP ALL THE FLOORS UP. BUT SHE'S JUST DRIVING. I'M LIKE, THIS IS SEDONA . IT'S LIKE, NO, YOU'RE IN MCGUIRE. . I'M GOING BACK 10, 15. NEXT YEARS, MAYBE 20 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I WAS TALKING TO A PERSON ONE TIME WHO, WHO SAID THAT, UM, THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME TO FIND A RESORT OR A PLACE TO STAY OR A HOTEL OR SOMETHING, AND THEY WOULD SAY SEDONA, AND THEY'D GO THERE. OR MAYBE THEY'D WIN A CONTEST TO GO TO SEDONA. AND IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE VILLAGE. SEE? AND THEN PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, HOW DO I GET TO THE GOVERNOR FROM HERE? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CAR, OR, YOU KNOW. OH YEAH. MM-HMM. , MY HUSBAND AND I WERE OUT A COUPLE SATURDAYS AGO IN THE POLICE CAR DOING OUR HOUSE WATCH. MM-HMM. . AND THIS COUPLE IS FRAN FLAGGING US DOWN ON THE SIDE OF 1 79. UM, THE STREET THAT GOES UP TO WHERE THE TRAIL HEAD IS FOR CATHEDRAL ROCK. IT GETS SO POPULAR, THEY CLOSE IT BACK AND BEYOND. BACK AND BEYOND. THEY'RE JUST WAVING US DOWN. SO WE STOPPED THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHO DIED? WHAT THE HELL WRONG. THEY HAD WALKED FROM THEIR RENTAL PLACE ALL THE WAY THERE, DID THE TRAIL AND THOUGHT THEY COULD WALK BACK, BUT THE WIFE HAD JUST HAD KNEE SURGERY AND SHE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. COULD WE GIVE THEM A RIDE? OH MY GOSH. SO WE DID PUT 'EM IN THE BACK OF THE POLICE CAR AND WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WHERE ARE YOU? YOU WERE IN THE VILLAGE. AND THEY WALKED, THEY WALKED ALL THE WAY BACK OF BEYOND DID THE CLIMB. AND SHE, OH MY GOD. SHE WAS PROBABLY LIKE THREE MILES. SHE HAD JUST HAD SURGERY. OH, THAT IS NOT WHATCHA ARE YOU THINKING? ? OH MY. AND SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T GET THE SHUTTLE TO STOP NO ONE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO UBER, THEY WERE, SHE COULDN'T WALK ANYMORE. THEY WERE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. . THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU GOTTA RIDE IN THE BACK OF A POLICE CAR. . WELL, SEDONAS FINES IS HERE TO HELP YOU. YEAH. I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS AGAIN, THAT WE'RE HEARING THESE ARE, AND THE MISSION THEY HAVE SEARCH AND RESCUE AND, UM, JUST ALL THE THOUGHT PEOPLE PUT INTO THIS. THERE'S SO MUCH TALENT AND SO MUCH SERVICE. MM-HMM. . OH, ABSOLUTELY. OH YEAH. AND WHAT, UM, THE CANINE FOLKS, SOME 10, 20,000 OF THEIR OWN MONEY. I CAN SEE DONATING YOUR TIME. BUT THAT MUCH MONEY, THEY'RE SO DEDICATED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING. NO, I KNOW. NO, THAT'S CRAZY. YEAH. THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION YOU ASKED. I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT. THEY DO HAVE A SHERIFF ON THEIR TEAM. OH. AS A VOLUNTEER. I KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN HIM. IT IS LIKE, COME ON GUYS, WHAT IF WE STOPPED DOING THIS? GET TO WORK. WE'RE NOT GOING OUT. RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT A HUGE LEVER, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHETHER THEY'RE NOT USING IT. BUT STILL WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STARTING A MOUNTED SPECIALIZED TEAM. ARE THEY? MM-HMM. . OH, WOW. AND THEY'VE GOT TWO GOT PER PEOPLE SO FAR. AND THEN STEPHANIE WENT, I SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO TRAIN. THEY TRAIN. OH, I CAN'T [02:25:01] BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH THEY TRAIN. MM-HMM. . OH MY. AND I THINK IT'S NICE THEY DON'T CHARGE BECAUSE THAT WAY, THAT'S NOT A REASON. PEOPLE MAY NOT, THEY MAY NOT CALL AND SAY, LOOK, WE NEED HELP, WE'RE LOST OR SOMETHING. BECAUSE THEN THEY MAY THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE CHARGED. YEAH. A VERY LARGE AMOUNT. SO, I MEAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT COLORADO CHURCHES, OH, OKAY. NOT ONLY JUST FOR AVALANCHES, BUT FOR IF YOU GET YOURSELF LOST OR IN TROUBLE AND IT'S YOUR FAULT. MM-HMM. , YOU, YOU'RE GONNA GET CHARGED. NEED A HELICOPTER 4,000 BUCKS MAYBE. BECAUSE I KNOW JENNIFER GO, GOES OUT WITH HER DOG LIKE ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND AND SHE GOES DOWN TO PHOENIX AND KEEPS ON ALL DAY FOR THESE SEMINARS. MM-HMM. FOR A DOG. NOW THESE PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER, THEY'RE VERY PHYSICALLY FIT WHEN WE RETIRE HERE AT 55. I LOOKED INTO IT AND I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T MEET THEIR PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS AS A ROCK CLIMBER. , I COULDN'T DO IT. STEPHANIE, IS THERE AN INSURANCE THING WHERE PEOPLE HERE, IF THEY NEEDED TO GO ON THE MEDICAL HELICOPTER, THE PHOENIX, I MEAN THERE USED TO BE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLANS YOU COULD GET WHERE IF YOU NEEDED A HELICOPTER ASSIST TO GET TO ANOTHER FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW. IS THERE STILL IT'S CALLED MEDICARE. MEDICARE WILL DO IT. OH, THEY PAID FOR MINE. YEAH. REALLY GOOD. MEDICARE AND MY SUPPLEMENTAL, I MEAN, I NEVER, I MEAN, I HAVE A REALLY NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. NO, I DIDN'T PAY A DIME. OKAY. WELL NO, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. YEAH, ACTUALLY IN COLORADO YOU CAN BUY INSURANCE FROM THE STATE. OKAY. IT COST YOU LIKE 25 BUCKS. THIS DOES REMIND ME OF THE GARDEN AIR. REMEMBER HOW WE REALLY WANTED THEM TO HAVE THE PORTABLE APP? YES. SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY DETERMINE IF THEY WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THE BLOOD. MM-HMM. . YES. AND WE MADE THE MONEY AVAILABLE. BUT WHEN I TALKED TO SOMEONE AT GUARDIAN, UH, ULTIMATELY THEY SAID THEY GAVE, THEY GAVE IT BACK. THEY HAD TO GIVE IT BACK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THEY COULDN'T GET THE LICENSING OR THE CERTIFICATION THEY NEEDED IN ORDER TO, FOR THEIR PERSONNEL OPERATE. YEAH. BEFORE. WOW. I MEAN, THOSE WERE AMAZING. I REMEMBER I TOOK, UH, A SON-IN-LAW TO MAIL FOR TO THE ER. AND THEY CAME IN WITH ONE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SEND THE BLOOD OUT FOR A LAB. THEY, THEY KNEW IMMEDIATELY. HOW ARE YOU? I WAS, I'VE NOT SEEN THE USED BEFORE AND I LIKED THOSE. YEAH. 'CAUSE I LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOUR EXPERTISE IN THAT ISSUE. THAT WAS SO YOUR, YOU WERE SUCH A VALUABLE PERSON. THEY HAVE ON THAT COMMITTEE WHEN ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH GOING, OUR DAUGHTER GOT HER FIRST JOB, A NURSE PRACTITIONER. AND WHEN YOU'RE NEW, NOBODY WANTS, SO SHE PASSED HER NET OUT AND GOT HIRED IN A ACCOUNT OF 400 IN OREGON. WOW. SO SHE IS THE NURSE PRACTITIONER AT A GO GOVERNMENT FUNDED CLINIC THAT'S LIKE THE COUNTY SEAT. AND THEIR HOSPITAL'S TWO HOURS AWAY, THEIR AMBULANCE CORPS IS VOLUNTEER. WOW. AND IT COMES FROM A TOWN 30 MILES, 30 MINUTES AWAY. GEEZ. SO IF YOU NEED AMBULANCE SERVICE, THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE TO FOSSIL WHERE SHE IS THEN DRIVE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL. SO IT'S PROBABLY A TWO HOUR ADVENTURE, PROVIDED THEY HAVE A DRIVER THAT DAY. AND IF THEY HAVE TO AIRLIFT YOU, IT'S JUST THIS UNGODLY AMOUNT OF MONEY. OH, IT WAS UNGODLY IS RIGHT. WELL, WE MAY, I KNEW 'CAUSE I WAS IN THE ED AND THEY WERE, THEY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO AMBO YOU UP TO, TO FLAG 'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA PUT YOU IN A TRAUMA ONE FOR THE NIGHT. AND UM, I GO, OKAY, THAT'S FINE. SO I'M LYING THERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, 10 MINUTES LATER, THESE GUYS COME IN AND THEY SAY, WE'RE PACKAGING YOU, YOU TAKE, WE'RE TAKING YOU BY HELICOPTER. I SAID, I DON'T NEED TO GO BY HELICOPTER. I SAID, THE AMBOS FINE. I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE TAKING YOU BY HELICOPTER. I THINK WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK A LOOK AT MY COVERAGE. MM-HMM. . AND THEY GO, WE'RE FLYING OR UP THERE. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET PAID FOR THAT. YEAH. AND THEY'RE SITTING THERE ANYWAY. SO LET'S, THEY'RE SITTING THERE. ANYWAY, SO I GOT THE BILL. I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY IT. I HAVE THE BILL. IT WAS A $30,000 TRIP. OH MY GOD. FOR 20 FRICKING MINUTES. YEAH. YEAH. I WOULD'VE GUESSED 25. WOW. WHEN WAS THIS STEPHANIE? WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? THIS WAS, UM, OH GOSH, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR YEARS AGO MAYBE. UM, I GOT THROWN DOWN, UM, OFF MY HORSE, DOWN . AND WHEN I HIT THE GROUND, THIS WAS BEFORE, UM, I WAS WEARING A HELMET AND NOW I WEAR A HELMET AND A, AN A BED DUST. BUT, UM, IT WAS LIKE HITTING PAVEMENT. I MEAN, I HAD THIS, THIS FINGER WAS DISLOCATED OUT TO HERE. OH. I [02:30:01] HAD PNEUMO THORACIC PUNCTURE. YEAH. A CONCUSSION. TWO BROKEN RIBS. TWO FRACTURED RIBS. OH MY. I WAS A MESS. OF COURSE. I DIDN'T KNOW IT 'CAUSE I WAS IN SHOCK. OH NO. AND I WALKED A MILE BACK TO THE TRAILER. OH. OH MY GOD. OH. I WAS IN TOTAL SHOCK. TOTAL SHOCK. JUST NOTICED THE TIME. UM, TWO MINUTES AGO. I THINK WE STARTED THE MOUNTAIN BIKE CLUB. OH, WE'RE, WE'RE LATE. OH. WE'RE LIKE, OH WOW. LEMME GET, WE'RE NOT THAT LATE. WE'RE A MINUTE LATE. WE GOOD BOYS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU DEAN. WELL, YOU SIT RESET THE CLOCK FOR US. THANK YOU. SOMETHING ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE IS WE ALL ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY. YAY. IN MY TEETH. DO YOU USE THAT EXTRA? THE NEW YOU WANT TO THE HI. HEY, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? WELL, THANK YOU. I HAVE A LITTLE UPDATE FOR YOU. JUST A, IT'S JUST A OKAY. WE DID A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS TO OUR CHANGES TO OUR, UM, LINEUP FOR NEXT YEAR. THOUGHT I'D BRING THAT NEXT. YOU OKAY. ED HAS RECUSED HIMSELF 'CAUSE OF HIS BOARD DIRECTORSHIP. STOP HIM NEXT DOOR. GOOD. OKAY. UM, PANEL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I HAVE ONE. I HAVE JUST MY USUAL. YOUR USUAL, UM, YOU HAVE 4,200 UNDER TRAVEL TRAINING, SO I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS FOR. UM, FOR TRAVEL. TRAVEL FOR WHO? IT IS, TRAVEL FOR OUR ARTISTS. WITH THE ARTISTS. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO TRAINING. IT'S TRAVEL. YEAH. IT'S NOT TRAINING. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. STRICTLY TRAVEL. SO DID YOU ADD A, WE ADDED YOU HAD 11, NINE AND 12. YES. WE ADDED, UM, EARTH AND FIRE, WHICH IS GONNA BE A CERAMICS SHOW, A MONTH LONG CERAMICS SHOW. WE'VE BEEN KIND OF TOYING WITH IT. UM, THE 65 YEARS IN CERAMICS EXHIBIT THAT WE DID THIS YEAR WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL. SO, UM, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH, UM, DENNIS, UH, WHO WAS OUR HEAD OF CERAMICS DEPARTMENT. SO HE'S AGREED TO DO IT. AND SO WE DID THAT AND THEN WE MOVED TO THE HOLIDAY MARKET TO THE FIRST WEEKEND OF, UM, DECEMBER. AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE FOR THE WEEKEND. SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WE MADE. THE EXHIBITS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT ON THAT, THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED FUNDING TO DO. MM-HMM. , UH, THE WILL THE ART AT THOSE EXHIBITS BE FOR SALE? YES. OKAY. DO IS THERE ANYWHERE IN YOUR PROGRAM COST FOR THAT? THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS? YES. SHOWING THE OFFSET OF REVENUE? YES. OKAY. IT'S COST OF GOOD SOLD. OKAY. COST OF GOOD. SOLD. ALRIGHT. UM, AND THAT'S IN THAT THE PROGRAM BUDGET THAT YOU SUBMITTED? YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. UM, I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, THE IT IS THE $75,000 TO COVER ALL OF THESE, JUST THIS. SO IT'S JUST A BROAD BRUSH OF IT'S GONNA COST US THIS MUCH TO PUT ON. UM, WE NEED $75,000 FROM THE CITY IN ORDER TO, UM, MAKE IT WHAT WE ENVISION IT TO BE. IT ACTUALLY COSTS US MORE THAN THAT. YEAH. TO DO THIS. OKAY. YEAH. AND BUT THE PROGRAM BUDGET THAT IS THAT WE SUBMITTED YOU YES. IS JUST THE 75. YEAH. WHAT FOR ALL, FOR ALL OF THESE, WHAT DO YOU CON IS IT JUST YOUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION BUDGET OR? NO, NO, NO. NO. WHAT IF, WHAT'S THE TOTAL FOR ALL OF THIS? OH BOY. UM, JUST PROBABLY A THIRD OF OUR BUDGET. OKAY. SO THE 75 IS A 30 YEAR BUDGET? NO, NO, NOT OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET. NO, NO. THIRD OF THE EXHIBIT BUDGET. THE [02:35:01] ALL, IF YOU ADD PERSONNEL COSTS IN THERE MM-HMM. , YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET. OKAY. AND YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD ALLOCATE OH, OKAY. YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE PERSONNEL TO, WE DO SOME, BUT NOT EVERYTHING. OKAY. SO THE, THE 75 YOU'RE ASKING IS ABOUT A THIRD OF OF THE, THE ENTIRE SEASON'S OFFERINGS? I WOULD WELL, THIS PART. THIS PART? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET MY HAND. YEAH. AND THE PPLE, THIS, THE PPLE AIR FESTIVAL KIND OF CROSSES OVER THIS. UM, BUT THE PLEN FESTIVAL ISN'T INCLUDED IN THIS. NO. WHAT NECESSARILY. BUT THE EXHIBIT PART IS, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE KEEPING THE ARTIST'S WORK AND KEEPING IT ON EXHIBIT FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER FOR THE FIRST TIME. WELL, THE, SEE, THE, THE THING IS, THIS IS WHERE WE KIND OF GOT MESSED UP A FEW YEARS BACK. YEAH. IT IS THAT WE HAD TO SAY, OKAY, WE CAN ONLY FUND ONE PROGRAM. RIGHT. AND WHAT SOME OF THE ORGANIZ, 'CAUSE WHAT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WERE DOING IS BRINGING IN LIKE THREE PROGRAMS YEAH. AND SAYING, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT FOR ALL THREE. YEAH. AND THAT PUT THE CUT. SO YOU WERE VERY CREATIVE OUR EXHIBIT PROGRAM. YEAH. IT'S YOUR EXHIBIT PROGRAM. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. VERY OF THE ELEMENTS. OKAY. AND THAT'S PERFECT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO THE EXHIBIT, SO ALL OF IT, SO THE EXHIBIT PROGRAM OF JUST THE ELEMENTS, 70 5K IS WHAT IS, THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU PUT IN THE PROGRAM. THAT'S RIGHT. GOT IT. ALRIGHT. BUT NOT ALL, IT'S, IT'S NOT ALL OF THIS. IT'S JUST THE ELEMENT PORTIONS OF IT. . GOT IT. ALRIGHT. NOW I'M, NOW I'M, I'M TRACKING. I'M TRYING. YOU JUST HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON. IT GETS VERY CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE. THAT'S KIND OF CIRCLING ON THE OUTSIDE THERE. YEAH. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. IT CELEBRATES THE DON YOU'RE CONSIDERING PART OF THOSE? IT IS. IT IS. WE'RE ROLLING IT INTO IT THIS YEAR. SO IT'S PART OF THE, WE'RE MOVING EVERYTHING TO FIRST FRIDAY. SO WE'RE NOT DOING WEDNESDAYS ANYMORE. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCOVERED IS THAT ESPECIALLY FOR, WELL, EVEN ARTISTS THAT ARE TRAVELING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, UM, HAVE A HARD TIME COMING DURING THE WEEKDAYS. SO BY MOVING IT TO FRIDAY AND THEN, THEN IT'LL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER GALLERIES FIRST FRIDAYS. YES. AND THAT WAY IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE ARTISTS TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THESE IF THEY'RE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA. SO IT'S COMBINING THAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL CALLING IT CELEBRATE SEDONA. WE TOYED WITH THE IDEA OF NOT, UM, FOR THE OPENING, ONLY BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW UNDERSTAND, CELEBRATE SEDONA AND THEY COME TO CELEBRATE SEDONA AND THEY LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATE SEDONA. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL CALLING THOSE OPENINGS. SO SOMEHOW I STARTED REMEMBER THAT YOU, WHEN YOU STARTED CELEBRATE SO MM-HMM. TWO YEARS AGO. RIGHT. THREE. I KNOW. THEN HAVING IT MIDWEEK IS KIND OF LIKE, SEE THIS IS JUST FOR SONA. THIS ISN'T TO DRAW IN THE PEOPLE. SO YEAH. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO DRAW IN THE BIG PEOPLE. IT'S REALLY TO MAKE IT EASIER, REALLY MORE FOR, UM, PEOPLE WHO WORK DURING THE WEEK HERE WHO DON'T WANT TO GO OUT ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A PIECE OF FEEDBACK WE GOT. YEAH, THAT'S SURE. IT'S A THERE'S NO RIGHT ANSWER NO. IN THE ARTS. SO WE THOUGHT WE'D TRY THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A, MAYBE WE'LL GO BACK TO WEDNESDAYS NEXT WEEK OR THE NEXT YEAR AFTER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH US. NO AT THIS POINT. GOD, IT COST A GOOD SOLAR TODAY. UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING ON THE PROGRAM BUDGET HERE. THIS THING HERE, ARTS FEES AWARDS, CATERING EXPENSES, UM, I DON'T SEE COST OF GOOD SOULS HERE. AS, AS IN ON THIS, THIS THING HERE IS AT THE BOTTOM. IT'S AT THE BOTTOM. ARTIST FEES, AWARDS, CATERING, OTHER, IT'S UNDER OTHER THE LAST ITEM. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UM, BUT IF THEY, IF YOU'RE SELLING THE ART WE KEEP, AND IT VARIES ON THE EXHIBIT, SO WE'LL KEEP ANYWHERE FROM 30% TO 40% AND IT DEPENDS ON THE EXHIBIT AND THE REST GOES BACK TO THE ARTIST. SO IT, IT OFFSETS EACH OTHER, BUT IT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM EXPENSE. OKAY. SO IT'S OF THE REVENUE. OKAY. SO IT'S, BUT IS THAT UNDER LIKE THE EARNED INCOME UP HERE? YES. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IN THE EARNED INCOME. ALRIGHT. EXCELLENT. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. . THAT'S WHERE THE OFFSET IS. AND I JUST WAS, I WAS HAVING A LITTLE CHALLENGE WITH THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THIS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, UM, I JUST WANNA LET YOU [02:40:01] KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU WERE INVOLVED IN KIND OF THE DRAMA AROUND CITY COUNCIL AND FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ARTS. NO. OKAY. SO, WELL, UM, MAYBE A MONTH AGO NOW. A COUPLE MONTHS AGO NOW. MM-HMM. , UM, I PRESENTED THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY SIX STUDY DATA TO THE CITY COUNCIL. MM-HMM. . AND ONE OF THE THINGS AT THE END IS I ASKED SPECIFICALLY FOR $550,000 MM-HMM. SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ARTS GROUPS HERE IN TOWN. AND, UM, THAT WAS REALLY, THAT WAS BASED ON A DIRECT OFFSET OF THE MONEY THAT THE NONPROFIT ARTS AND CULTURE INDUSTRY HERE IN SEDONA CONTRIBUTES BACK TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN FEES AND TAXES. MM-HMM. . AND IT WAS A, IT WAS REALLY A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW SURE. MORE THAN ANYTHING. UM, AFTER THAT THEY ASKED ME FOR A PROPOSAL. YES. SO I PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL PROGRAM FOR THEM, SENT IT TO THEM BEFORE THEIR BUDGET RETREAT. AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT IF WE WERE TO GIVE THE NON-PROFIT ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I KNOW OF, UM, 10% OF THEIR BUDGET, BUT WITH A MINIMUM $10,000 GRANT, THAT TOTAL WOULD COME TO ABOUT $460,000. A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT. MM-HMM. . SO, YOU KNOW, $550,000 IS NOT THAT FAR OFF THE MARK FOR, UM, IF WE WERE TO GRANT, IF THE CITY WERE TO GRANT 10, 10% OF EVERY NONPROFIT'S BUDGET. MM-HMM. . SO I JUST THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT . NO, NO. AND THAT'S FINE. AND YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WHAT THEY DID FOR US, OF COURSE THEY INCREASED THE OVERALL AMOUNT AND THE ARTS ENDED UP WITH LIKE 140, WHICH IS A FAR CRY YEAH. FROM WHAT YOU NEED. AND I WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT VETTED AMONGST US YET THE, UM, UH, DISPOSITION, YOU KNOW, THE EXACT DIVISION WHO BELONGED IN ARTS AND WHO BELONGED. BUT IT LOOKS, I MEAN, JUST VERY BROADLY, IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 2 55 IS WHAT, SO WE'VE GOT ASKED FOR MM-HMM. . YEAH. THAT'S, SO WE'VE GOTTA CUT FROM 2 55 DOWN TO, DO YOU WANT THIS 1 44? THIS IS JUST MY LITTLE, MY NAME. SURE. YEAH, GO AHEAD. IF YOU WANT IT. YEAH. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THIS COVERS EVERYBODY, BUT UHHUH, IT'S THE GROUPS THAT I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH. NO, I, WE HEAR YOU. WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND, UM, I TOTALLY, TOTALLY GET IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM. . WE DO. WE DO. YEAH. WE, WE DEFINITELY DO. AND, UM, SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO, DO SOME MAJOR TRIMMING AND, UH, WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO TO YOU? IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO JUST, I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE MONEY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON A DEFICIT BUDGET THE LAST TWO YEARS IN AN EFFORT USING OUR CASH RESERVES. UM, WE THINK THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH THINGS LINED UP TO NOT HAVE A DEFICIT BUDGET NEXT YEAR. BUT A LOT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE GET FROM THE CITY. UM, IF SOME OF THE FOUNDATION GRANTS THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR COME THROUGH, UM, IF THE ARIZONA COMMISSION ON THE ARTS GETS FUNDED OR NOT, AND AT WHAT LEVEL, THAT'S A HUGE ONE FOR US THAT COULD LEAVE A GIGANTIC GAP. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S ALL PART OF THE PUZZLE. WHAT IS YOUR, ARE, IF YOU CUT OUT AN ELEMENT, UM, ONE OF YOUR ELEMENTS, , I MEAN, DOES THAT, DOES, DOES THAT EFFECTIVELY LOWER YOUR NOT THAT MUCH. YES. SEE, IT'S JUST NOT REALLY, IT'S NOT REALLY SCALABLE. IT ISN'T. NO. AND BUT THE THING IS NOTHING IS NOTHING. I KNOW. SO WE, WE, WE HEAR YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. NO, WE DO. I APPRECIATE IT. WE DO. AND WE, ANYTHING YOU CAN DO AND ANY ADVOCATING THAT YOU CAN DO ON OUR PART OF ALL OF US WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED. YEAH. NO, I, UM, I I COMPLETELY, I I COMPLETELY GET IT. I MEAN, AGAIN, IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE CITY BUDGET. WELL, THEY WERE, THEY WERE MAKING, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT HOW $550,000 WAS JUST RIDICULOUSLY OFF THE MARK. WELL, IF THAT PIECE OF PAPER SHOWS YOU THAT, IT'S NOT RIDICULOUSLY OFF THE MARK. MM-HMM. , I HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. NO, I GOT IT. WE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT IT. AND BELIEVE ME, WE'RE, WE'RE PUSHING ON OUR END TOO. I KNOW. I KNOW. OKAY. THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR DAY. YOU TOO, . WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT AN EVENT, THE LAST CELEBRATE SEDONA OF THE SEASON IS FROM FOUR TO SIX. SO IF YOU WANNA COME AND HAVE A GLASS [02:45:01] OF WINE OR A BEER AFTER THIS, OH MAN. IT WOULD ALL, IT WOULD NOT BE JUST ONE . BYE. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE? YEAH. BRING IN, OH GOD, WHAT HIS NAME? BEN. BEN, RIGHT. IS A BEN TOO. AND HE, UM, CLARIFIED THE WHICH DOLLAR VALUE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHICH IS IT? 33 33 . OKAY. THEN I WILL CHANGE THAT TO 33. AND THAT PUTS US A LITTLE MORE IN THE HOLE. UH, YES, IT DOES. HI THERE. HI. HAVE A SEAT. YOU'RE NOT BEN. I'M NOT BEN. BEN IS, UH, OUT OF STATE STILL, BUT HE IS SAD THAT HE, THAT HE COULDN'T BE HERE AND THEN HE HAD TO SEND SOMEBODY IN HIS PLACE. I WAS JUST TELLING ED WHILE I WAS, UM, RIGHT, ED, YEAH. WHILE, WHILE I WAS WAITING, UM, MY TURN TO COME IN THAT, UM, I'M THE GRANT WRITER AND MANAGER FOR MANZANITA OUTREACH. MY NAME'S KATE. KATE. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU, KATE. AND, UM, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T WRITE THIS PROPOSAL. BEN DID BECAUSE HE, UM, HE HOLDS THE CITY OF SEDONA VERY CLOSE TO ITS HEART AND WAS NOT READY TO GET THE REINS OVER, UM, FOR THIS, THIS GRANT CYCLE. SO, UM, HE CARES A A LOT ABOUT THE CITY OF SU AND OUR COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY. SO, UM, I'M VERY PROUD AND HONORED TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE IN THIS PLACE. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KATE. IT'S VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. YOU TOO. UM, QUESTIONS. UM, I'M TRYING TO GET A CHANCE TO PULL IT UP. I DID HAVE A QUESTION. YOU HAD $500 FOR TRAVEL TRAINING, AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S FOR. SO I THINK, UM, THE 500 WAS FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING. UM, SO THERE, THE TRAVEL COST WOULD BE JUST THE, UM, GAS MILEAGE FOR, UM, THE, THE HOME DELIVERIES FOR THE VOLUNTEERS. UM, AND ANY TRAVEL TRAINING WOULD BE IN RELATION TO THAT, AS WELL AS THE DOOR DASH, UM, EMPLOYEES WHO WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH. UM, AND DOORDASH DOES PAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S KIND OF ON US TO EXPLAIN TO THOSE EMPLOYEES, UM, WHAT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEIR TYPICAL GROCERY RUN AND WHAT THEY'RE PICKING UP. UM, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOORDASH, UM, THE DOORDASH EMPLOYEES WILL SHOW UP AND THEY ARE ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE PICKING UP GROCERIES FOR ONE PERSON AND NOT 10 FAMILIES. UM, SO IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF TRAINING IN GETTING USED TO, UM, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF COMBINE THE TWO SYSTEMS INTO ONE WORLD. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO THE, UM, THE, THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN YOUR PROGRAM THIS YEAR IS THE HOME DELIVERY PORTION OF IT. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WE'VE BEEN DOING HOME DELIVERY. THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS ACTUALLY THE AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT'S BEING SOURCED LOCALLY. YES. OKAY. UM, SO FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, OUR FOCUS HAS REALLY BEEN ON FRESH FOOD AND, UM, PROVIDING NUTRIENT DENSE, UM, AND FRESH OFFERINGS TO OUR CLIENTS, UM, WHO ARE IN NEED OF FOOD ASSISTANCE. UM, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE, THE ONLY WAY TO, TO BE ABLE TO TURN WHAT FOR SOME PEOPLE IS A, A SHORT TERM PROBLEM. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR, WHEN YOUR DIET, UM, IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOUR PREFERENCES ARE OR WHAT YOUR, UM, NUTRITIONAL GOALS ARE, IT CAN HAVE LIFELONG IMPACTS. RIGHT. AND THEN WE RECOGNIZED THAT, UM, AND SO TWO YEARS AGO STARTED PROVIDING FRESH FOOD. UM, BUT THE, THE TYPE OF FRESH FOOD, UM, AND PRODUCE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SOURCE WAS VERY LIMITED BASED ON OUR PARTNERSHIPS. THIS, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR AND MOVING INTO THIS YEAR, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH PURCHASE LOCAL AZ, AND THAT IS ALLOWING US ABOUT $300,000 TO SPEND WITH LOCAL FARMERS AND PRODUCERS. SO WE PAY THEM MARKET RATE FOR PRODUCE, AND THEN THAT GETS, UM, AGGREGATED DOWN TO FAMILY SIZE BOXES AND DELIVERED TO THE CLIENTS FOR FREE. SO THAT'S A MAJOR CHANGE IN ONE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO MEASURE THE LONG-TERM IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY. AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT? UM, SO WE ARE PART OF THE GRETCHEN SWANSON ROOTED IN EVIDENCE PROGRAM. UM, AND THEY HELP, UH, FOOD BANKS INCLUDE ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS COLLECT [02:50:01] DATA THAT'S MEANINGFUL. UM, AND AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM, WE'VE KIND OF SHIFTED, UM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE CAPTURING IN OUR CLIENT SURVEYS. AND SOME OF THAT, UM, INCLUDES HOW MANY TIMES A WEEK THEY'RE EATING FRESH FRUITS OR OUR VEGETABLES, HOW OFTEN THEY'RE PREPARING MEALS AT HOME VERSUS USING, UM, PARTIALLY PREPARED MEALS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, IT'S ALSO BASED ON SELF REPORTS OF, UM, OF ACUTE HEALTHCARE VISITS AND, UM, LONG-TERM CHRONIC ILLNESS THAT'S RELATED TO DIETARY, UM, CONDITIONS, DIETARY ISSUES, UM, SELF-REPORTING FROM OUR CLIENTS OF WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR STATUS IS WITH THOSE, IF THEY'VE HAD ANY POSITIVE CHANGE. UM, EXCUSE ME, SORRY, I GOT MY MOUTH DEAD RATTLE. AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER COMPONENT OF MEASURING THAT WILL COME FROM OUR HEALTHCARE, UM, PARTNERS, UM, WHETHER THAT BE YAVAPAI, UH, COUNTY COMMUNITY HEALTH CLINIC, OR, UM, ARIZONA COMPLETE HEALTH TO PROVIDE US DATA ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AS CHANGES. THANK YOU, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY. AND HOW ARE YOU AGGREGATING THAT DATA? UM, THROUGH A LOT OF SYSTEMS. SO, UM, SOME OF THAT DATA IS JUST COMING IN REPORT FORM FROM OUR, UM, HEALTHCARE PARTNERS. OBVIOUSLY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BE IN VIOLATION OR ASKING OUR PARTNERS TO BE IN ANY VIOLATION OF HIPAA. UM, SO THEY'RE PROVIDING US THAT INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT IS COMPLIANT TO THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. AND SO USUALLY THAT'S JUST LOOKING, UM, LIKE A REPORT. UM, SOMETIMES IT IS US REQUESTING THAT INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THE, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT REPORTING AND, UM, CASE STUDIES. UM, AND FOR OUR OWN INTERNAL, UM, DATA COLLECTION, WE USE A FEW DIFFERENT SOURCES. SO WE DO STILL HAVE SOME EXCEL SHEETS AND WE ALSO HAVE AIRTABLE, WHICH IS A MAJOR, UM, DATA COMPILATION, UH, SOFTWARE SYSTEM, AND ALLOWS US TO TAKE, UM, A FEW DATA POINTS AND CONFIGURE THEM IN MULTIPLE WAYS TO TELL VERY DIFFERENT STORIES, UM, BASED ON, ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND. WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE COME A LONG WAY. STARTED WITH MIKE NEWCOMB, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO. YEAH. WHEN IT WAS JUST A FLEDGLING, FLEDGLING ORGANIZATION. YEAH. GUYS, YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF SEDONA RESIDENTS SERVED? SURE. SO THE 1,586 SEDONA RESIDENTS THAT ARE, UM, REFERENCED IN THE, UH, GRANT APPLICATION ARE ACTUALLY UNIQUE RESIDENTS. SO THAT IS A COMBINATION OF THE CHILDREN THAT ARE BEING SERVED THROUGH THE MOPAX FOR TEACHERS PROGRAM AT, UM, THE FOUR SCHOOLS IN SEDONA THAT ACTUALLY HAVE CITIES OF SEDONA, UM, RESIDENCY ON THEIR, UM, ON THEIR STUDENT INFORMATION. OKAY. UM, AND THEN OUR HOME DELIVERIES THAT HAPPEN IN SEDONA MM-HMM. . UM, AND THEN ANY OF THE, UH, CLIENTS THAT WE ARE SEEING AT OTHER, UM, FOOD SHARE EVENTS, WHETHER THAT'S OUR MOBILE FOOD SHARE EVENTS OR, UM, UH, WHETHER THAT'S LIKE IN COTTONWOOD OR CLARKDALE, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT SATURDAY IT IS OR WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS. MM-HMM. IF THEY'RE REGISTERING WITH US WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA ADDRESS. UM, SO IN TOTAL, WE'RE PROBABLY SERVING ABOUT, UM, I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST SHY OF 300 HOUSEHOLDS RIGHT NOW. UM, MM-HMM. FOR AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSES, UM, IN THE CITY OF SEDONA THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS. OKAY. AND, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU AN ACCURATE NUMBER OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS IS THAT? MM-HMM. AND NOT JUST HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE SERVING THEM OKAY. OR RIGHT. OR HOW MANY IN ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS WITHOUT SEPARATING OUT. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY UNHOUSED PEOPLE YOU SERVE? SO, UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD INDIVIDUALS IN, IN THE CITY OF SEDONA ORDE? NO, NO. UM, PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THEIR CARS OR IN THE FOREST OR WHATEVER. DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER? IT'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE TO 8%. UM, IT'S, AND WHAT'S THE NUMBER WHEN, UM, OF, OF PEOPLE SERVED? THAT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO, BETWEEN 270 TO 325. [02:55:02] WOW. UM, IT'S, IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO GET A, A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER ON UNHOUSED MM-HMM. . UM, BECAUSE A, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT WILLING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION OR THEY'RE USING A PREVIOUS ADDRESS. MM-HMM. OR A FRIEND'S ADDRESS. MM-HMM. . SO IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN 8%. UM, IT'S AT LEAST 5% OF THE POPULATION THAT WE SERVE. WOW. SPECIFICALLY THE RESIDENTS OF SEDONA THAT WE'RE SERVING, UM, 2% OF THOSE SELF-REPORTED AS UNHOUSED. UM, SO IT'S ABOUT ABOUT 31 PEOPLE, UM, LAST YEAR. OKAY. WELL, YOU GOT YOUR NUMBERS. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, YOU DO. YOU, YOU I JUST WRITE IT, I WRITE IT DOWN ALL DAY LONG. SO YEAH. YOU, YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS CONTROL AND, AND ABLE TO, UH, ARTICULATE ALL. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU VERY WELL. BEN CAN SEND YOU ANY TIME. ABSOLUTELY. , THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN. WE APPRECIATE IT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN ANSWER OR I PANEL, UH, TIME'S UP AND I THINK WE GOT IT ALL. OKAY. I JUST WANNA DO, I DO WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW ONE THING WHILE I'M WALKING OUT THE DOOR AND MAKE MY WAY OUT. UM, BUT WE ARE STARTING THE COOKING CLASSES WITH YAVAPAI COLLEGE AND FOR OUR FIRST PILOT, UM, WE FILLED THE 50 PERSON REGISTRATION IN LESS THAN EIGHT HOURS. UM, AND 15% OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA. SO WE'RE HOPING TO USE THAT TO, UM, ACTUALLY DUPLICATE THAT PROGRAM WITH THE SEDONA BRANCH OF Y COLLEGE. SO. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. THANKS. NICE SEEING YOU ALL. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SHE'S A LITTLE STAR, ISN'T SHE? YEAH. ABSOLUTELY KNOWS HER STUFF, DOESN'T SHE? YEAH. GOOD JOB. PART ARTICULATE. YEAH. DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. NO, IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME EITHER. . YEAH. I THINK THAT BEN IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PEOPLE I'VE EVER IS. I KNOW HE'S, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT HE'S DONE HERE AND HIS, UH, AND YOU KNOW, HE WOULD HIRE A GRANT WATER WRITER WHO WAS REALLY GOOD. YEAH. NO, AND NOT ONLY THAT, SHE IS GOOD. SHE PRESENTS WELL. SHE KNOWS HER STUFF AND SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE NEEDS TO KNOW. MM-HMM. . I MEAN, THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE. QUITE IMPRESSIVE. ALRIGHT. THREE MINUTES, GUYS. REMEMBER LAST YEAR I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT BACKPACKS, I THINK ACTUALLY. AND I WAS FLOATING AROUND A LOT OF PLACES BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED. I THING I REMEMBER, I THOUGHT, WELL, MANZA USED TO GIVE BACKPACKS, SO I MANZANITA. OH YEAH. I WAS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED THAT IT WAS LIKE, BEN, WHO IS THE PHONE ANSWERER. AND I THOUGHT, WHAT IS THIS MAN WHO HAS SO MANY IDEAS AND AMBITIONS AND ANSWERING THE PHONE, SEE HOW DOES HE EXECUTABLES AND ANSWER SITS, ANSWERS THE PHONE AND IS NICE ON THE PHONE. AND NO, HE'S, I MEAN, REALLY EXCEPTIONAL YOUNG MAN. EXCEPTIONAL. AH, OKAY. SHOULD BE SEEING ALICE MADAR HERE. YES. SHE CONFIRMED SHE WOULD BE HERE. YEAH. AND, UM, ALICE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, I THINK, WITH HER REQUEST THIS YEAR, DATA GATHERING, YOU KNOW, WHO WE'RE MISSING. YEAH. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE VISUAL ARTS COALITION? THAT'S WHAT I, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS EARLIER. THEY DID NOT KNOW MIKE. THEY DIDN'T, NOR DID, NOR DID THEY SUPPLY A REPORT FROM LAST YEAR. OH NO. UHHUH. NEITHER ONE, OR YOU KNOW, MIKE ABOUT THAT. WELL, THE REASON THAT THAT POPPED TO MY MIND IS THAT MIKE IS NOW ON I, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS IMPRESSED WITH, WITH THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY THIS YEAR WAS THEIR DATA. AND I LOOKED AT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THERE'S MIKE UPS NAME, SO I GO, NO WONDER THAT DATA'S TOGETHER, BECAUSE I'M SURE MIKE IS DRIVING THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT WAS LIKE A NIGHT AND DAY CHANGE FROM THEIR PAST SUBMISSIONS. YEAH. UM, SO I SAW THAT NAME TOO, AND WONDERED ABOUT THAT. YEAH. AND I'M SURE THERE HAS TO BE A DIRECT CORRELATION THERE. UH, SO I WONDER IF HE LEFT VISUAL ARTS, ALTHOUGH THEY STILL HAVE OPEN STUDIOS. YEAH. THEY JUST FINISHED IT, DIDN'T THEY? THEY JUST, YEAH, THAT JUST, I THOUGHT I DID. THEIR LAST CYCLE WAS JUST FINISHED. THAT WAS A GOOD SHOW. I ENJOYED THAT. I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT. WHAT THE VISUAL ARTS? THE YEAH. THE VISUAL ARTS STUDIO. WELL, YOU KNOW, HE WAS ABLE TO, WHAT [03:00:01] I, I'M SURE HE HAD HELP OR ASSISTANCE, BUT HE BUILT THAT BASICALLY FROM MM-HMM. WAY IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING THIS PROGRAM. IT WAS JUST, WELL, THERE WERE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS BACK THEN THAT THEY'VE ALL UPPED THEIR GAME. DID WE HEAR BACK FROM STEPS? SO THEY COME IN THIS AFTERNOON? YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE TO CALL IT. WE'RE GONNA CALL 'EM. OKAY. WE'RE CALLING HER AT FOUR 40. GOOD. YEAH. SO ARE YOU READY FOR YOUR NEXT ONE? YEAH, GO AHEAD. DO YOU WANT TO, WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER TO TALK TO NO, WHEN WE CALL HER AT FOUR 40, IS THERE ANYBODY YOU MEAN TODAY WHEN THEY CALL, WE'RE CALLING HER AT FOUR 40. YOU CAN LEAD. OKAY. OKAY. WE'VE ALL GOT QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE. YEAH. SO I'M GONNA LET YOU, THEN I'LL JUST INTRODUCE IT AND I'M GONNA LET YOU GO WITH HER. NO SERIOUS. I'M GONNA LET YOU ADD HER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER. OKAY. YOU DON'T COVER. I WILL. BECAUSE BY THAT TIME OF THE AFTERNOON, I MAY BE PRETTY WOUND UP. OH, I THINK YOUR RUNDOWN. I HAD, I CAME DOWN WITH COVID EXACTLY FOUR WEEKS AGO. OH, NO KIDDING. FIRST TIME. MM-HMM. . AND I'VE STILL GOT, OH, NO. OH NO. I MEAN, I'VE STILL GOT RAILS AND TIREDNESS AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT, YEAH. ALICE, ALICE, HOW ARE YOU? COMMUNICABLE POT SEAT. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE GIRL. YOU NEED A SPOTLIGHT. YEAH, I KNOW WE DO. DID YOU? IT'S HERE. WELL, WE'LL PUT IT RIGHT IN YOUR GARAGE. YOU CAN'T, YES. WE CAN ONLY SEE YOU. I'M NOT, UM, TRANSFERABLE ANYMORE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTOR SAID PANEL ANYTHING FOR OUR GUEST IS YOU'RE COUNTING 1500 RESIDENTS. THAT'S A LOT. YES. IT'S A LOT. IT'S, UM, FIGURING 500 AND THEN THEY SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE WITH AT LEAST TWO OTHER RESIDENTS THAT WAY DO ACTUALLY, AND ACTUALLY I FIGURED 2100 BECAUSE THEN THERE'S 600 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT BENEFIT FROM HAVING OUR FEEDERS THERE. AND THEN LAST YEAR WE WENT IN AND TALKED WITH THE KIDS THAT THEY, UM, THEY REALLY BENEFITED FROM THE AFTER EFFECTS OF THE FESTIVAL, HAVING THE FEEDERS THERE, LEARNING ABOUT HUMMINGBIRDS, THE PHOTOGRAPHY CLASS PHOTOGRAPHED HUMMINGBIRDS. SO, OKAY. WELL ABSOLUTELY COUNT THEM. YEAH. YEAH. DID YOU, DID YOU WRITE ALL THAT IN YOUR YES. YOU DID? YES. YEAH. AND I KNOW, WELL, YOU AND I SPOKE, YOU DIDN'T MEMORIZE ALL THE . NO, ALL, ALL I KNEW, ALL I COULDN'T. ALL I CAN FROM BROAD STROKE FROM MY DISCUSSION WITH YOU WAS THAT YOU, THE, THE, WHAT YOU WROTE WAS BEAUTIFULLY DONE. IT WAS VERY CON IT WAS COMPREHENSIVE, IT WAS SPOT ON. YOUR DATA WAS GREAT. AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY HAS, UM, UPPED THEIR GAME. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, GOOD FOR YOU. DID A GOOD JOB. DID A GOOD JOB. AND THEN I JUST, UH, HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE BUDGET. YOU HAD 4,000 UNDER TRAVEL AND TRAINING. I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS FOR SPECIFICALLY. THAT WAS, WE BRING IN SPEAKERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WE PAID THEIR AIRFARE AND THEY'RE LODGING. SO I, WITHOUT LOOKING, I MEAN, I'VE, NOT THE PROPOSAL, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT 4,000 WAS FOR. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO TRAINING? NO, NOT NO TRAINING. IT'S ALL TRAVEL . YOU DON'T TRAIN YOU HUMMINGBIRDS, . WELL, THE WHOLE FESTIVAL IS EDUCATION. OKAY. SO WHAT, WHAT CAN YOU, HOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ORGANIZATION OF THE LAST YEAR? I MEAN THE, THERE THERE'S BEEN A MORPHING HERE THAT'S GONE ON. SO DID, IS IT 'CAUSE THEY PUT YOU IN CHARGE AND YEAH. WELL, YES. OKAY. YOU DESCRIBE THE MORPHING THAT YOU'VE OBSERVED . YES, YES. VERY MUCH SO. I MEAN, THE, THE, THE, THE MISSION AND THE, UM, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING IS KIND OF THE SAME. IT IT'S THE SAME THING, BUT IT, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ALL ALL WE SEE IS WHAT WE SEE ON THE PAPER. AND SO WHAT CAME ACROSS IN YOUR APPLICATION THIS YEAR WAS, UM, JUST A, UH, A MUCH MORE, MUCH MORE ROBUST DESCRIPTION, UM, OF MAYBE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING ALL, ALL ALONG. BUT THAT IT, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS STATED IN SUCH A FASHION THAT IT WAS, IT WAS MORE, UH, TO ME AT LEAST, IT WAS MORE VISUALLY. UM, [03:05:02] UH, I SAW IT MUCH MORE CLEARLY. YEAH. MORE VISUALLY, TANGIBLE. IT WAS MUCH MORE TANGIBLE. I MEAN, YOU, YOU REALLY, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE BEEN DOING, MAYBE THE ORGANIZATION'S BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG, BUT JUST IT SEEMED TO BE MORE IMPACT. I REALLY SAW THE IMPACT. OKAY. AND MAYBE THAT WAS IT. I SEE THE IMPACT, UM, WELL, YES, THEY PUT ME IN CHARGE IN SEPTEMBER, AND I DO HAVE A DIFFERENT MIND THAN THE FORMER ADMINISTRATOR. SURE. AND IT'S VERY SORT OF GROUNDED. MY MIND IS GROUNDED. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . UM, BUT I'VE BEEN PASSION. I'VE NEVER, I HAVEN'T WORKED FOR THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF 2023, BUT I'VE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT THE HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL AND HUMMINGBIRDS SINCE 2015. MM-HMM. . AND I REALLY BELIEVE IN THEIR MISSION. AND WHEN THEY HIRED ME, THEY, THE BOARD WANTED ME TO, TO GROW THE SOCIETY IN KEEPING WITH THIS MISSION, WHICH IS EDUCATING ABOUT HUMMINGBIRDS AND WORKING TO PROTECT THEM INTERNATIONALLY. AND HERE IN THE US WHERE THEIR NUMBERS, JUST LIKE ALL BIRD NUMBERS ARE DROPPING, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL FEED HUMMINGBIRDS OR OBSERVED HUMMINGBIRDS, BUT THE RED ONES THAT COME THROUGH TOWARDS THE END OF SUMMER, THE RUFUS, THEIR POPULATIONS ARE PARTICULARLY CRASHING. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT IN OUR PROPOSAL AS AN ORGANIZATION, IS PROMOTE HUMMINGBIRD GARDENING, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST FEEDERS THAT HELP THE HUMMINGBIRD, BUT HAVING A GARDENS REALLY HELPS THEM AND HELPS ALL WILDLIFE. SO I KNOW THEIR MISSION WAS CONSERVATION BEFORE, BUT I THINK I AM BRINGING MORE, UM, MEAT AND FUNCTIONALITY TO THAT PART OF THE MISSION STATEMENT. YEAH, DEFINITELY. BECAUSE INTUITIVELY, I MEAN, WE ALWAYS FELT IT WAS THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT YOU, YOU STATED IT VERY WELL AND IT BECAME, IT BECAME MUCH MORE, AS YOU SAY, TANGIBLE AND, UM, A REALITY TO SOMEONE WHO'S ON THE OUTSIDE. SO YEAH. GOOD JOB. AND I THINK THAT WHOLE FILTER OUT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO FORWARD. SO, SO I HAD THE ROOF EYE POPULATION DROPPED, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIT OF A MYSTERY, WHICH IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING A HUMMINGBIRD BANDING STATION HERE IN SEDONA. IT'S TOUGH. THOSE GUYS, WE COST 40 IN OUR FIRST BANDING STATION. FIRST BANDING, NOT NOT OF THE RED RUFUSS, BUT IT COULD BE LOSS IN HABITAT. UM, IT COULD BE PESTICIDES, IT COULD BE CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE, THEY MIGRATE FURTHER THAN ANY OTHER HYMAN HUMMINGBIRD. SO THEY'RE KIND OF MORE DEPENDENT ON THE FLOWERS AND THE BLOOM TIME AND HAVE IT IN KEEPING WITH THEIR MIGRATION PERIOD. BUT IT IS, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIGURE THAT STUFF OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH HUMMINGBIRDS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS AND KIND OF TEARING THOSE FACTORS. MM-HMM. WITH THE BIRDS IS A CHALLENGE. BUT I FIGURE ENCOURAGING HUMMINGBIRD GARDENING CAN ONLY HELP. MM-HMM. . THAT'S TRUE. DO YOU THINK, IS OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IN SEDONA MORE CONDUCIVE TO HUMMINGBIRDS? WHY DO WE HAVE A HUMMINGBIRD CONCENTRATION HERE? OR DO THESE SOCIETIES EXIST IN THIS FORM ELSEWHERE? I MEAN, A LOT OF OTHER PLACES DO YOU KNOW, IT'S, NO, THIS, THIS MAY BE UNIQUE IN SOUTHEASTERN ARIZONA. THEY HAVE MORE, THEY HAVE 15 DIFFERENT SPECIES, BUT THEY'RE IN KIND OF REMOTE AREAS. SO I THINK OF SEDONA AS FAIRLY UNIQUE IN HAVING EIGHT SPECIES THAT YOU CAN SEE WITHIN A, YOU KNOW, A RESORT TOWN. AND IT'S, WE'RE NOT, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE FAIRLY CLOSE TO MEXICO. YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S 370 SPECIES OF HUMMINGBIRD IN THE WORLD. THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 18 THAT COME TO THE US REGULARLY. AND HERE IN SEDONA, WE'RE SORT OF CLOSE TO MEXICO. WE HAVE THE ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTS HUMMINGBIRDS AND YEAH, WE'RE LUCKY THE GOLDILOCKS. YEAH, THE GOLDILOCKS. YES. AND THE WHOLE EASTERN HALF OF THE UNITED STATES HAS ONE SPECIES. YEAH. AND THAT'S IT. YEAH. ALTHOUGH THE RED ONES SEEM TO KIND OF BE GOING THERE. OH, REALLY? YEAH. THEY SORT OF, DURING THEIR FILE FILE MIGRATION, THEY KIND OF LIKE SEEM TO VEER OFF INTO THE EAST. OKAY. BUT NOT, NOT VERY MANY. THEY'RE PRETTY [03:10:01] SPOTTY. HOW UNIQUE IS THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY OF SDO? IT'S, IT IS UNIQUE. IT'S NOT COMMON TO HAVE A, A BIRD ORGANIZATION DEVOTED TO ONE SPECIES. MM-HMM. . AND SO THIS IS THE ONLY INTERNATIONAL HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY THAT EXIST. AND OUR FESTIVAL IS UNIQUE IN THAT THERE ARE OTHER HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVALS, BUT THEY'RE SMALLER AND THEY'RE NOT RUN BY A NONPROFIT SOCIETY. THEY'RE USUALLY RUN BY THE LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. MM-HMM. OR THE DEPARTMENT OF FISHT GAME. SO THIS, THIS EVENT IS UNIQUE. AND THE OTHER HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVALS, THEY DON'T HAVE 14 SPEAKERS. SO WE HAVE 14 SPEAKERS THIS YEAR. 12 OF THEM ARE SPEAKING ABOUT HUMMINGBIRDS. ONE IS SPEAKING ABOUT WILD FLOWERS AND ONE IS SPEAKING ABOUT BUTTERFLIES. OKAY. ALL THE REST ARE HUMMINGBIRDS. AND THAT'S ALSO UNUSUAL IF SOMEBODY SAYS THEY HAVE A HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL, THEY HAVE A LOT OF OTHER BIRDING STUFF THROWN IN. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, I MEAN SO FAR FOR OUR REGISTRATIONS, WE'VE ALREADY GOT, I SHOULDN'T BE SAYING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE GRANT IS TARGETED AT SEDONA, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM 20 STATES ALREADY COMING. IT'S SO IT'S A POINT OF PRICE. IT'S GOOD. SEDONA. IT'S GOOD FOR SEDONA. WELL, IT'S GOOD. AND SEE THESE, I'M JUST TRYING TO COAX OUT LITTLE TIDBITS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR CASE MORE POWERFUL. MM-HMM. . SO THE VOLUNTEERS ARE EXCITED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR SECOND VOLUNTEERS MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T REALLY DONE IN THE PAST. THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE VOLUNTEERS MEETINGS IN ADVANCE. SO THAT IS ONE WAY WE'RE EXPANDING AND TRYING TO CREATE A LOCAL COMMUNITY OF YEAH. HUMMINGBIRD LOVERS. AND WE WILL, I PLAN TO CONTINUE THAT AFTER THE FESTIVAL, TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND ACTIVITIES FOR THEM. WE HAD ONE AFTER LAST, LAST YEAR'S FESTIVAL IN A HUMMINGBIRD GARDEN. WILL YOU GO, GIRL? YOUR TIME'S UP. ARE YOU GO . THANKS SO MUCH. GOOD JOB. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND UM, I HOPE YOU WILL FULLY FUND US. GREAT PROPOSAL. THANKS. THANKS, ALICE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. OKAY. I SAW SOMETHING GO BY WITH PEARL. HELLO. THEY'RE NEXT. YEAH. DID THEY GET THEIR FINAL REPORTING? YES. DID. I THOUGHT, WHAT DID I HAVE? I DON'T THINK I HAD ANYTHING THAT WAS INTERESTING. HOW'D YOU COME UP WITH YOUR NUMBERS? WELL, 500 PLUS THEY TALKED TO TWO PEOPLE EACH. I SAW THAT WAS A LITTLE, I LIKE THE ANSWER. HEY. OKAY. HEY, IT'S, IT'S VERY CREATIVE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ALL HAVE A SOLUTION. YEAH. SHE'S PROBABLY NOT FAR OFF. NOPE. UM, I'LL BUY THAT. LET'S SEE, BECAUSE IT JUST KEEPS SPREADING. I'M GLAD YOU HAVE THOSE PAPER COPIES HERE. NO, I, I'VE REFERENCED EVERY SINGLE ONE. YOU STARTED MY LITTLE IPAD HERE. WELL, THE THING WAS WITH THE IPAD YOU HAVE MULTI AT HOME, I'VE GOT LIKE MULTIPLE SCREENS, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN HAVE EVERYTHING UP AT ONE TIME. BUT HERE I'VE GOT THIS LITTLE TINY THING. YOU WOULD'VE LIKED MY SPECIALTY. WHAT WAS THAT? OH, RADIOLOGY. OH REALLY? OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I WOULD, WHENEVER I TAKE THOSE POSITIONS DOWN ON THE RECRUITMENT TOURS, I'D TAKE THEM TO THE BAT CAVE. AND THAT WAS WHAT YOU GUYS LIVED IN THE BAT CAVE DOWN THERE. . I WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I REALLY ENJOYED IT. ONE ON ONE IN THE FLUOROSCOPY AND ULTRASOUND HAVE TO DO BACK TOO IN THE BACK CAVE, ESPECIALLY KNOW. YEAH. IT WAS, IT WAS ALWAYS FUN TO GO DOWN AND SEE THOSE GUYS. NO, BECAUSE THIS FFY FINAL REPORT, THIS, I KNEW THIS NOTE WAS ON HERE. YES. OKAY. BUT THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE. WHICH ONE IS THIS? ANGLO. ANGLO. THEIR FINAL REPORT WAS ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION. IT WAS, ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS, THIS IS NOT RELEVANT. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. I DON'T REALLY EITHER. I JUST THINK THAT THEY HAVE SUCH A HUGE AMBITIOUS PROGRAM AND A VERY LOW BUDGET, YOU KNOW, A REAL BARE BONUS KIND OF BUDGET. WHAT? . [03:15:01] IT'S A GOOD THING. . YES. DON'T ENCOURAGE YOUR ASS FOR MORE MONEY . NO, I'M JUST SORT OF SAYING IT WAS SURPRISING TO ME. REALLY? NO, SHE'S, SHE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S COME A LONG WAY. I THINK SHE, SHE WAS ALWAYS THERE. BUT I'LL GIVE YOU LITTLE PIECE OF TRIBUTE. YEAH. IS LAST YEAR, I THINK I SAID IN LAST YEAR, DIDN'T I? MM-HMM. ON THE GRANT PRESENTATIONS. AND I SPOKE WITH NANCY LATAN, OUR ARTS AND CULTURE DIRECTOR. YEAH. YEAH. AND IN LISTENING TO LISA'S PROGRAM, I SUGGESTED THAT IT WOULD BE A NICE THING FOR A MOMENT OF ART DURING A COUNCIL MEETING. YES. AND NANCY FOLLOWED UP WITH ELISE AND WILL BE PRESENTING. OH, THEY WILL BE POSSIBLY NEXT MONTH. OH WOW. THERE YOU GO. GOOD TIMING. SO NANCY WAS VERY IMPRESSED SHE ATTENDED ONE OF THE RECENT PERFORMANCES. YES. UM, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A NICE THING FOR REGULAR PLAYERS, SO, WOW. YEAH. NO, SHE'S COME A LONG WAY TOO. SHE'S REALLY, UM, ESTABLISHED HERSELF AND DONE QUITE WELL. DO YOU WANNA GO GET HER? SHE'S ONE THAT DOES A LOT WITH A LITTLE DOES SHE WORK WITH THE WILDCATS? SHE USED TO. I DON'T. OH, SHE DOES NOW. I THINK NOW IT'S, UM, ALL IN SCHOOL. IT'S, UM, I THINK SHE DOES BOTH, DOESN'T SHE? SHE HAS CLASSES SAME I WROTE ON HERE. MAYBE SHE DOES BOTH TALENT SHOW. THAT WAS A NEW THIS YEAR. AND THEN THIS THEATER. CHILDREN'S THEATER PRODUCTION. AND THEN I THINK SHE DOES DO CLASSES AS WELL. YEAH, SHE DOES. SHE SAID WE PROVIDE AFTERSCHOOL AND IN SCHOOL PROGRAM. YEAH. SO SHE MUST WORK WITH THEM. YEAH. I THOUGHT SHE DID BOTH STILL. HELLO ELISE. HOW ARE YOU? YOU KNOW THE DRILL HONEY. WE'RE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE SEAT THERE. HI. GOOD TO IN THE MIDDLE. HOT SEAT. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. UH, I THINK I HEARD THAT THE PANEL HAD NO QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY. SO TELL US SOME STORIES. SURE. TELL US. THIS YEAR WAS VERY EXCITING. UM, IT KIND OF STARTED OFF WITH A BANG WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UH, WE WERE GONNA DO A FULL PROGRAM AT RUNNING RIVER TOO. AND THEN THAT KIND OF FELL APART. AND SO I WENT, OKAY, WELL WE'LL JUST FOCUS ALL OF OUR HOURS ON SEDONA CHARTER IN WEST SEDONA. RIGHT. WHICH IS WHAT WE DID. NOW, I HAD SOME TEACHERS SAY, WELL, I'M SORRY ELISE, BUT I CAN'T THIS YEAR. SO WE HAD TO REGROUP ON, UH, WE STILL HELD THE HOURS, BUT WE HAD TO REGROUP ON THE TYPES OF CLASSES THAT WE WERE GIVEN. AND SO THEN I, I, UM, I COULDN'T GET A DRUM TEACHER, WHICH IS WHY , THE BINA GRABBED ME IN THERE. AND, UM, I COULDN'T GET A DRUM TEACHER BY DRUM. TEACHERS KEPT FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE, SO, AND MY HUSBAND'S NATIVE AMERICAN, SO I WAS GONNA ENLIST HIM, BUT THEN HE GOT SO BUSY, I SAID, NO, I CAN'T DO THAT. HE'S ALSO AN ARTIST. SO I WAS GONNA HAVE HIM TEACH PAINTING. HE WAS TOO BUSY. SO I WENT, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THIS TOWN AS A TALENT SHOW. SO I ASKED THE KIDS, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT A TALENT SHOW AS THE PRINCIPALS? THEY WENT, OH YEAH. SO WE COULD LIKE, COMPETE SCHOOL TO SCHOOL. AND THAT WAS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A COMPETITION, IT WAS THE TWO SCHOOLS WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHICH REALLY EXCITED ME BECAUSE IN THIS COMMUNITY, SEDONA CHARTER IS THE, YOU KNOW, UGLY STEPCHILD BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PUBLIC SCHOOL. MM-HMM. , AT LEAST WITH THE DISTRICT. THAT'S BEEN THE PERCEPTION. OKAY. SO I WAS REALLY GLAD, UM, ELIZABETH ACHE, WHO'S GONNA BE LEAVING US, WHICH I'M REALLY SAD ABOUT. BUT SHE AND I GOT ALONG GREAT. SHE LOVED THE IDEA. I STARTED WORKING WITH JENNY BRADEN 'CAUSE THEY BROUGHT IN THE, THE THEATER TEACHER THERE. AND SO JENNY AND I TOOK THIS AND SAID, LET'S MAKE IT AN ANNUAL EVENT. AND THE KIDS WERE FABULOUS. ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. AND SO, UM, WE DID A COMPETITION AT SEDONA CHARTER. WE DID A COMPETITION AT WEST SEDONA SCHOOL THE SAME WEEK. MM-HMM. . WE HAD THE REDROCK NEWS COVER BOTH AND WELL PAGE. AND THEY DID, THEY DID REALLY GOOD ON THE COVERAGE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE CHRISTOPHER FOX, GRAHAM'S DAUGHTER WAS ONE OF US. I, [03:20:02] SO, UM, AND SHE DID REALLY WELL, BY THE WAY. SHE WAS A KINDERGARTNER THAT WROTE HER OWN POEM THAT WAS JUST ADORABLE. BUT IT WAS REAL SHORT. AND HOW DO YOU COMPETE AGAINST A CONTORTIONIST? BUT WE HAD STUFF ALL ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WAS FABULOUS. SO I WAS REALLY THRILLED WITH THE OUTCOME. AND THE KIDS WERE THRILLED. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY DID MAY NOT HAVE WON, THEY LEARNED AND SUPPORTED THOSE WHO DID WIN. AND WERE EXCITED FOR THOSE WHO DID. AND THEY ARE GEARING UP FOR NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S SCHOOL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE ABOUT KIDS THAT MAY HAVE COME OUT OF THEIR SHELLS OR, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD A SHOW, A CHILDREN'S THEATER PROGRAM THAT, UM, I HAD SOME REAL INTERESTING STUDENTS, ONE WHO COULDN'T READ. AND HE WAS IN FIRST GRADE, AND HIS MOM SAID, YOU JUST REFUSED TO READ. WELL, WHEN IT AUDITION, TIME CAME, I SAID, MOMS, YOU CAN GO UP WITH THE KIDS WHO HAVE TROUBLE READING 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T READ. RIGHT. AND HE SAID, I'M NOT, YOU'RE NOT GOING UP THERE WITH ME. I'M NOT GONNA EMBARRASS MYSELF. AND SHE SAID, WELL, THEN YOU BETTER LEARN TO READ. HE SAID, I WILL. AND HE WENT HOME AND HE STUDIED THAT SCRIPT AND LEARNED TO READ. AND HE WAS A STELLAR PERFORMER. THAT'S TERRIFIC. THAT'S A GOOD STORY. HE HAD, AND I WAS SO PROUD WHEN I GAVE HIM HIS TROPHY AT THE END OF THE SHOW, I HAD HIS MOM TELL THE STORY AND HE SAID, THAT'S RIGHT. I LEARNED TO READ BECAUSE OF THIS SHOW. SO CUTE. AND HE WAS OUR PANTOMIME PERSON IN THE TALENT SHOW AS WELL. VERY COMMITTED. ANOTHER, UM, KID, UM, WHO NEVER MADE A PEEP. SHE WAS LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. MM-HMM. . I CAST HER AS A DANCER AND SINGER. UM, AND SHE WAS SCARED OF HER OWN SHADOW. AND I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED. 'CAUSE MOM IS A, A VERY PROLIFIC ARTIST IN TOWN WITH A BIG GALLERY. AND THIS KID JUST WOULDN'T, I COULDN'T GET HER OUTTA ROCHELLE. I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED TO GIVE YOU A SPEAKING REAL. SHE, I GO, YEAH, YOU, I WANT YOU TO DO THIS. AND SHE HAD ONE LINE, AND IT WAS, UM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE KID CAME UP AND SAID, I WILL WIN THE CONTEST. SHE GOES, THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'LL WIN. BECAUSE YOU HAVE EATEN CABBAGE ALL YEAR LONG. RIGHT. IT WAS THE CABBAGE FESTIVAL, CABBAGE DANCERS. AND, AND, UH, AND SHE DID IT. AND IT WAS, SHE ACTUALLY DID IT LOUD ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE COULD HEAR. RIGHT. SHE DID A GREAT JOB. AND THEN SHE WENT, YOU KNOW, BUT SHE DID IT AND IT HELPED BRING HER OUT OF HER SHELL A LOT. MM-HMM. . SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT REALLY RING OUT. I HAD ANOTHER KID THAT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE. I MEAN, THIS KID, A DD UM, CRACK, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, YOUNG. AND I PUT HIM IN THE SHOW AND I HAD TO HAVE HIS, ONE OF HIS PARENTS THERE WITH HIM AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE HE WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE KIDS. AND DAD. SO DAD WOULD COME TO EVERY REHEARSAL AND HE HAD THAT OTHER LINE WITH THAT OTHER GIRL, AND IT WAS, THAT'S RIGHT. I'LL WIN THE CONTEST. AND HE SAID IT PERFECTLY EVERY TIME. AND HE WAS JUST A HOOT. HE COULD HAVE STOLEN THE SHOW WITH HIS ONE LINE, YOU KNOW, . IT WAS VERY CUTE. UM, THE OTHER PROGRAM THAT I WANTED TO SAY WE, WE DID, THAT WE HADN'T DONE BEFORE WAS SAFE VIDEOGRAPHY FOR KIDS. AND THAT WAS A BIG HIT. AND I'M NOW TEACHING IT AT THE COLLEGE FOR KIDS THAT YOU APPLIED. UM, I'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS UP THERE, THIRD THROUGH FIFTH AND SIXTH THROUGH EIGHTH. THEY'RE LOVING IT. THEY'RE HAVING A BLAST. THIS GROUP WAS MY FIRST GROUP, AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A REALLY CUTE VIDEO. THEY HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE BUDGET. THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE MONOPOLY MONEY, THEY HAVE A WRITER'S, PRODUCERS, DIRECTORS, CAMERAMEN, ACTORS, ALL OF THAT. THEY HAVE TO BUDGET IT OUT, THEY HAVE TO ACT IT OUT, THEY HAVE TO FILM IT. THEN IT GOES INTO A TELEVISION NETWORK THAT I OWN THAT'S, UM, CONNECTED TO VIS, WHICH IS ALL FOR SCHOOLS. SO IT'S PROTECTED. AND, UM, THEY WROTE THE SCRIPT CALLED TIME RESCUE. AND IT WAS ABOUT TWO KIDS IN A SCIENCE FAIR BUILDING A A, UM, SCIENCE PROJECT, A TIME MACHINE. AND MOM COMES IN, THEY HIDE IN THE TIME MACHINE MOM COMES IN TRYING TO GET [03:25:01] 'EM TO GO TO DINNER. AND THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE DINNER 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO TEST THEIR NEW MACHINE. AND SO MOM GOES, OH, HOW CUTE. WONDER WHAT THIS DOES? IT HITS THE BUTTON, SENDS THEM INTO THE FUTURE, AND ROBOTS HAVE TAKEN OVER HUMANITY. AND THEY WROTE THIS WHOLE THING, AND THEY HAVE TO BREAK THE SCIENTISTS OUT OF JAIL. SO THAT WHO, WHO DEVELOPED THE ROBOTS, WHO OVERTOOK HUMANITY SO THAT HE CAN FIX THEIR TIME MACHINE AND TAKE THEM BACK HOME. AND, UM, THEY DO, BUT HE TAKES THEM BACK TO THE SIXTIES AND THEY DANCE TOGETHER. AND THEY SAID, BUT WE WANNA GO HOME. SO HE SAYS, OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. THIS WAS MY THING. AND SO HE TAKES THEM IN THE TIME MACHINE AGAIN AND HE SAYS, I KNOW I'VE GOT IT. AND HE BRINGS BACK MOM. AND SO THEY'RE ALL IN THE SIXTIES. AND THE SCIENTIST SAID, MOM, END UP CHEEK TO CHEEK AT THE END FALLING. IT WAS VERY CUTE. AND THE KIDS WROTE THIS. THE KIDS WROTE THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S COMPLICATED. IT, IT WAS QUITE A LITTLE, IT'S LIKE A FIVE MINUTE MOVIE. FIVE MINUTES. THAT SOUNDS LIKE 50, 50, 50 HOURS. WELL, IT, IT WAS, BUT THEY HAD TO PLOT EVERY, YOU KNOW, AND FILM EVERY SEGMENT. AND I'M TEASING. I MEAN, I KNOW. IT'S LIKE, IT'S A MOVIE. I KNOW. SO THEY, THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. AND SO THAT WAS A BIG HIT. SO WE'RE GONNA REPEAT THAT THIS YEAR, THIS NEXT YEAR. AND, UM, AND WHERE DO YOU DO, WHERE IS THAT AT? AT THE CHARTER SCHOOL? YEAH. MM-HMM. . I CAN DO IT AT THE CHARTER SCHOOL BECAUSE I GET SUPPORT BY THE PARENTS. THEY'LL HELP PAY FOR IT. I CAN'T JUST DO IT ALL ON A GRANT WITH WEST SEDONA. MY PROBLEM WITH WEST SEDONA THIS LAST YEAR, AND DEBBIE , WHO RUNS THE PROGRAM AND I ARE ON TEACHING AT PHI TOGETHER, AND SHE SAID, I'M SO SORRY. I SAID, YOU GOTTA FIX IT. 'CAUSE MY TEACHERS WON'T COME BACK UNLESS YOU FIX IT. YOU GOTTA FIX, YOU GOTTA HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ON STAFF AND YOU GOTTA HAVE A ROOM THAT'S SEPARATE FOR THOSE. IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE THEM AN OPTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO JOIN US, THEN YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE US AND HAVE YOUR KIDS PLAYING BASKETBALL OR WHATEVER THEY WANT SEPARATELY FROM WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. AND SHE SAID SHE GOT THAT THIS YEAR. OKAY. IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU GOT KIDS RUNNING THROUGH, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T KEEP 'EM, YOU KNOW, IN TOE. SO MY TEACHER SAID, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ANYMORE IF IT'S LIKE THIS. YEAH. RIGHT. SO I TOLD ELIZABETH AND SHE SAID, WELL, WE'LL FIX IT. AND THEN SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS LEAVING . I SAID, OKAY, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA FIX IT. SO DEBBIE SAYS, NO, SHE HAS AN EXTRA ROOM THAT'S GONNA BE GIVEN TO HER. AND I SAID, AND YOU NEED MORE TEACHERS FOR THAT MANY STUDENTS. SO, UM, BUT THEY ALL LOVE IT WHEN WE COME, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY HARD. UM, SO WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE WORKING THAT OUT. THANK YOU, ELISE. MM-HMM. THANK YOU. OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. YOU ARE SO WELCOME. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. OKAY. LET'S SEE. THREE MINUTES. OKAY. WHAT'S THE FOOD BANK DOING THIS YEAR? FOOD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THREE WINNERS, THREE OF THE WINNERS OF THE TALENT SHOW WILL BE PERFORMING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 11TH. IF YOU GUYS WANT COME SEE THEM. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. THE MOMENT OF OUR, THAT ARROW AT YES. I, THAT'S WHAT NANCY AND I WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, HOW TO POSITION IT SO WE DON'T GET ANYBODY. OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. SHOULD AT FOUR 30 THE KIDS, WE HAVE THREE OF THE KIDS THAT WILL PERFORM. I, I'LL COME UP WITH SOME TARGETS. SHOULD COME OVER AND SEE. OKAY. DID YOU SEE THE ONE WITH THE SHE WAS SHOOTING AN ARROW WITH HER FEET. OH, I CAN'T FIND THE COMMUNITY. SHE INCREDIBLE. SHE, SHE WAS ON HER ELBOWS AND, AND LIKE THIS WITH HER FEET PULLING THE STRING BACK. I THINK SHE HIT AN APPLE. I'M NOT SURE. . LET'S HOPE THAT'S ALL. SHE WHAT? THIS IS NEEDING TO PURCHASE MORE FOOD. YEAH. YOU WHY THEIR DONATIONS ARE DOWN. LIKE THEY SAID, DONATIONS ARE DOWN EVERYWHERE. MM-HMM. . IT COSTS MORE FOR EVERYBODY. COSTS MORE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GIVE AWAY. NO. WE'RE DOWN AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY ALSO. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . [03:30:03] WE CAN FIX THAT. THERE WE GO. YEAH. THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS JUST FOOD. YES. THE CITY BUDGET. YES, THEY DO HAVE A CONTRACT, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT TOO. , ARE YOU READY? YEAH. TRY TO GIVE YOU THOSE FEW MINUTES TO, HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. HEY, HOW ARE YOU? I AM WONDERFUL. AND YOU? GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD, GOOD. UM, I DON'T HAVE MY JANE WITH ME TODAY. NO. JANE IS NOT HERE. NO. JANE, JANE FLEW OUT OF TOWN. WELL, JANE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AND SHE NORMALLY, WE NORMALLY DO THIS TOGETHER, BUT SHE'S HERE IN SPIRIT. . YES. YES. SHE'S, SHE FLEW OUT OF TOWN THIS MORNING. WELL, GOOD. I HOPE SHE'S GOING SOMEPLACE THEN. SHE IS. SHE'S GONNA GO TO A BIRTHDAY PARTY. OH, GOOD. WELL, IT'S NOT HERS. THAT'S GREAT. . THAT'S GOOD. STEPHANIE. UH, THERE ARE, UM, IT'S ALL ABOUT FOOD COSTS GOING UP. YES. NEEDING MORE FOOD. YES. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, TO BE HONEST. THANK YOU. SO IF THERE'S, UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE US LIKE TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR WHAT'S CHANGED FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR? OR OTHER THAN EVERYTHING STAFF HIGH, HAVE YOU MADE ANY OTHER CHANGES OR JUST OUR INCREASED COVERAGE WITH THE CHILDREN AS WELL. BECAUSE LAST, WE BOTH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THE BACKPACK PROGRAM FOR FOREVER. AND THEN WE, UM, HAD, WE PICKED UP THE AFTERSCHOOL SNACKS FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE AT WESTED FOR THE, UM, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM. SO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME THEY'RE RELEASED FROM SCHOOL. AND THEY MOM AND DAD ANYWHERE FOR AN HOUR TO TWO HOURS AND THEY'RE STARVING. SO WE PROVIDE THE SNACK FOR THEM, BUT WE'VE ALSO PICKED UP THE BREAKFAST. SO NOW WE'RE PROVIDING BREAKFASTS FOR THE BEFORE SCHOOL PROGRAM BECAUSE SOME OF THE KIDDOS ARE BEING DROPPED OFF AT SEVEN AND THEN BREAKFAST ISN'T SERVED TILL ABOUT EIGHT 15. SO THAT'S A LONG TIME FOR A CHILD, YOU KNOW, TO WAIT. SO WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE AS WELL. AND, UM, WE'VE CONTINUED OUR, OR WE'VE INCREASED OUR OUTREACH OVER TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE, UM, HAVE FIVE PLASTIC TUBS THAT ARE FILLED WITH SNACKS AND SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND THAT TYPE OF THING. AND, UM, THEY CALL US WHEN THEY NEED IT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING OVER THERE PROBABLY, WE WERE GOING OUT OVER THERE EVERY TWO WEEKS JUST TO CONSTANTLY REFILL WITH JUST SNACKS THAT KIDS CAN GRAB AND THEY'RE AT THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE OR THE NURSE OR THE COUNSELOR. SO IF THEY NEED ANYTHING, THEY CAN GO THERE AND GET IT. SO THAT'S REALLY OUR INCREASED THING. BESIDES OUR NUMBERS ARE, WE SAW 118 PEOPLE IN THREE AND A HALF HOURS THIS MORNING LONG. AND I JUST LEFT. AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE BUSY, SO YES. BUT WE'RE STILL DOING THE SAME OUTREACHES. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO THEM BETTER. MM-HMM. IN A NICER PLACE. OH MY GOODNESS. YES. IN A MUCH NICER PLACE. IN FACT, WE JUST HAD AN AWNING PUT UP YESTERDAY, WHICH COVERS NOW OUR FRONT DOOR AND IT GOES OUT ABOUT EIGHT FEET. AND THAT'S SO GOOD BECAUSE I'M THE HOSTESS WITH THE MOST IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING RESERVATIONS NOW, SO THE LINE ISN'T SO LONG. AND SO THE PEOPLE AREN'T WASTING THEIR TIME IN A LINE. AND IT'S ALSO HELPING WITH OUR PARKING LOT. SO I GET, I, YEAH, WE'RE DOING RESERVATIONS, SO I'M YOUR HOSTESS WITH THE MOST IS OUT THERE AND IT COULD GET PRETTY HOT OR PRETTY COLD. SO NOW WE HAVE AN AWNING THERE AND EVERY CLIENT THAT CAME THROUGH HERE THIS MORNING SAID, OH MY GOODNESS, THIS IS WONDERFUL, KATHLEEN. SO, YES. SO ANYWAYS, SO YEAH, WE'RE, UM, IT, WE'RE IN A WONDERFUL PLACE AND WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER MORE. WE'VE HAD A HEALTH VAN THERE TWICE AND WE'VE GOT THEM, IT'S CALLED CAN AND IT'S A NON-PROFIT DOWN IN PHOENIX. AND I CONTACTED [03:35:01] THEM AND THEY CAME UP OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. AND THEY CAME OUT AGAIN IN JANUARY OF THIS PAST YEAR. AND WHEN IT IS, IT IS A FREE HEALTH VAN. SO THEY DO BLOOD TESTS, THEY DO BLOOD PRESSURE, THEY PROVIDE, UM, HEALTH KITS, HYGIENE KITS, UM, FAST, RAPID, HIV TESTS, ALL OF THAT TYPE OF THING. SO BECAUSE WE'RE IN OUR OWN PLACE, WE'RE NOW ABLE TO OFFER MORE SERVICES, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. AND SO IT, IT'S REALLY, IT IS. I'M VERY HAPPY. HAVE YOU SEEN A CHANGE IN DEMOGRAPHIC OR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE? YES, WE ARE ACTUALLY, SINCE WE'VE MOVED, GOOD QUESTION. SINCE WE'VE MOVED, WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE OF OUR OLDER POPULATION BECAUSE BEFORE WE WERE AT THE CHURCH, WELL, IT WAS WONDERFUL. WE WERE THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS. WE HAVE THE UPPER LEVEL. SO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO WALK DOWN THOSE STAIRS AND THEN WALK DOWN ANOTHER, THEN WE HAD THAT MID LEVEL. SO THEY STILL HAVE TO GO DOWN. AND IF THEY WERE ON THE LOWER LEVEL OF PARKING, THEY HAD TO CLIMB UP AND CLIMB UP AGAIN. SO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE STAIRS, WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE OF OUR OLDER POPULATION. AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE'RE MUCH CLOSER TO, UM, TRANSPORTATION AS FAR AS THE BUS SYSTEM. SO PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS US MORE. MM-HMM. . AND SO THAT'S REALLY BEEN A WONDERFUL THING, IS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. AND NOW WE, WE'VE MADE IT EASIER. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. DO YOU FEEL THAT THESE PEOPLE, OR YOU KNOW, NOW I'M SURE BE A SENSE OF COURSE IF YOU'RE ON RESERVATIONS, THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY SEDONA RESIDENTS? OR ARE YOU, ARE YOU SEEING A A, A CHANGE IN POPULATION OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE AREA? UM, I AM NOT SEEING, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE. I'M SEEING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN FAMILIES, WHICH IS REALLY NICE. A LOT OF, UM, FAMILIES LIVE UP INSPIRATIONAL WHERE WE LIVE ACTUALLY. I MEAN, WHERE WE'RE AT. SO THEY'LL WALK DOWN. SO I AM SEEING AN INCREASE IN FAMILIES, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, A VERY, UM, ONESY, TWOSY HOUSEHOLD. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS NOT, UH, IT HASN'T CHANGED. 'CAUSE WHEN I FIRST STARTED WITH FOOD BANK, WE HAD A LOT OF FAMILIES, BUT THAT CHANGED PROBABLY ABOUT THREE TO FOUR YEARS AFTER I'D BEEN THERE. AND NOW I'M STARTING TO SEE A FEW FAMILIES COME BACK. SO THAT'S REALLY NICE. WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENED? I THINK BECAUSE THEY CAN FIND US NOW AND WE'RE MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE. BECAUSE WHILE WE WERE AT THE CHURCH AND WE WERE THERE FOREVER, THAT WAS A MILE UP. UM, YOU KNOW, SUNSET AND IF YOU'RE ON FOOT, 'CAUSE I DO HAVE SOME MOMS THAT WILL COME DOWN THAT LIVE ON INSPIRATIONAL AND THEY HAVE THEIR BABY CARRIAGE AND THEY'RE WALKING THE BABY DOWN. THEY COULD HAVE NEVER DONE THAT IF WE WERE OVER THERE ON SUNSET. SO WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE FAMILIES THAT WAY TOO, WHICH IS REALLY NICE. DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, SPECIFIC STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THE PRICE INCREASES YOU'RE SEEING? THE COST INCREASES? UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT OUR CLIENTS ARE INTERESTED IN. SO FOR EXAMPLE, REAL EASY. THEY HATE FRUIT COCKTAIL. I'M NOT PUTTING MY MONEY THERE. I'M PUTTING IT IN WHAT THEY WANT. AND THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SALES AND BULK ORDERING WHEN I CAN. AND UM, SOME OF THE GROCERY STORES LIKE FRIES, THEY OFFER US AN ADDITIONAL 10% DISCOUNT AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING. WE'RE REALLY HITTING THE SALES AND ZEROING IN ON WHAT THE CLIENTS ARE LOOKING FOR. SO I'M NOT WASTING MONEY AND HAVING FOOD SIT ON A SHELF MM-HMM. THAT THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M CURIOUS. MY FORMER NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS MOVED, RETIRED AND MOVED TO TUCSON. BUT SHE USED TO GO AROUND, I THINK ONCE A WEEK THE DIFFERENT STORES TO GET PET FOOD THAT WAS GONNA BE OUT OF DATE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE TOOK THAT PET FOOD. SHE USED TO TAKE IT TO US. OKAY. PEGGY TOOK IT TO, YES. SHE WAS A VERY LITTLE LADY. YEAH. SHE WAS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO 40 POUND SEX. YOU STILL, ARE YOU STILL GETTING THE PET FOOD FOR I AM GETTING PET FOOD, BUT I'M NOT GETTING IT OBVIOUSLY FROM HER BECAUSE SHE WOULD GO TO GOLDEN BONE AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT I DO, YES, I HAVE BEEN RECEIVING PET FOOD. AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD TOO BECAUSE WE'RE, WE ALSO PROVIDE THAT TO ALL OF OUR THANK GOODNESS CLIENTS. YES. YEAH. NOW THAT SHE'S NOT HERE, YOU WERE WONDERING THAT IT HASN'T FALLEN OFF YET. SOMEONE DOING IT. GOOD. YES. THANK YOU. WE ARE RECEIVING IT. ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE IN YOUR LAST COUPLE MINUTES? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS. NO, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU . AND WE DO REALIZE THAT. OH NO, JUST THANK YOU. WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER I THINK. ALRIGHT. NO, THAT'S IT. APPRECIATE. I JUST WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF THE TIME. I KNOW THAT THE EMAIL SAID PLEASE BE ON TIME AND PLEASE DON'T TALK TOO MUCH . I DON'T WANT TO GET THE HOOK . [03:40:02] AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I APPRECIATE IT. WELL, THANK YOU KATHY. HAVE A GREAT DAY. BYE BYE. I THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME GUYS. I DIDN'T THREATEN ANYBODY WITH A HOOK KAREN? YEAH. OKAY. I DID. I DID SAY THEY SHOULD BE ON TIME AND STRESS, THE TIME THEY HAD, BUT, OKAY, SO PIANO ON THE ROCKS WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD TWO DIFFERENT VALUES. UM OH REALLY? ON THE BUDGET WORKSHEET IT WAS $6,750. UM, I THINK THEY WERE ASKING FOR 13 FIVE. YEAH, 13 FIVE ON THE, ON THAT WORKSHEET. BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, I CAN FIND IT AGAIN. I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT. IT'S HERE. I'LL GET IT OUTTA HERE. HERE. 13 FIVE IS THE PREVIOUS REQUEST. WAS IT ALSO THE CURRENT ONE? YOUR PIANO ON THE ROCK? YES, IT IS. IT WAS THE PREVIOUS REQUEST ON CONCURRENT 13. UM, 13 FIVE IS ON THE COVER SHEET. WE, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR, THEY HAVE TO SUPPLY THEIR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHERE I SAW THE OTHER NUMBER. WHAT, WHAT DOES THE PROGRAM BUDGET SAY? WHAT DOES THE PROGRAM 13 FIVE ON THE YEAH. OH MY GOD. THEY'VE GOT, YEAH, THEY'VE GOT 13 FIVE ON BOTH OF THESE ON THE BUDGET WORKSHEET AND THE COVER SHEET AND THE PREVIOUS REQUEST THERE. AND THEN ON THERE, UH, THERE APPROVED BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. THAT'S WHERE I FOUND IT'S ON PAGE SEVEN OF 18. UNDER CITY OF SEDONA INCOME THEY HAVE 6,750. SO THAT'S WHAT'S IN THEIR APPROVED BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. BUT THEY'RE ASKING US FOR 13,000 'CAUSE THEY EXPECT 6,007. THAT'S EASY. THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION LAST YEAR. YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS 23, 24. YEP. I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS SUPPOSED, I THINK THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S, YES. APPROVED BUDGET FOR 2324 BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED 22, 23 AND 2324. THERE'S NOTHING THAT GOES FARTHER. OH, I SEE. OKAY. SO, SO IT APPEARS YOU ONLY NEED 67 50 CINE . UM, TOTAL INCOME 43. WELL SHE'S GOT 43, SO SHE'S BREAKING HER BUDGET. SHE BREAKS COMPLETELY EVEN RIGHT. LONG DAY. UM, SHE'S GOT 13 FIVE EVERYWHERE ELSE. THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE WATER ANYWHERE? SO WE JUST ROLL WITH 13 FIVE, I GUESS. I MEAN THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE THE OBVIOUS ONE, BUT I MEAN WE DEFINITELY SHOULD POINT IT OUT TO HER. I MEAN, I MEAN THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE. IT'S ALMOST HALF. OKAY. SO THAT WAS HER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. THAT WAS ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS. WELL SHE LISTED THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE THE PAST AND THE CURRENT. SO THE PAST YEAR WAS THE 2223. THE CURRENT IS 2324. WE DON'T ASK FOR YOU GUYS SEEM YOU HAD ENOUGH LEAVE AROUND. OKAY. SO I GUESS THEY LIVE WITH 67 50 THIS YEAR'S AND SHE'S ASKING FOR 13 FIVE FOR NEXT YEAR. YES. BECAUSE SHE GOT THE 67 50 LAST YEAR. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S A TIMING THING. YEAH, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A, WE DO HAVE A TRAVEL TRAINING WOULD'VE DONE. OKAY. WE HAD MORE TRAVEL TRAINING. SHE'S GOT [03:45:01] 86, 50. I'M SURE IT'S JUST ARTISTS, BUT YEAH. BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET RID OF MY GUESSES AND JUST PUT IN WHAT HONEY, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. IT REALLY IS . YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. IF SHE, IF SANDRA'S HERE, WE CAN GO AHEAD. YEAH. I LOVE TO HEAR HER TALK. YEAH. WHO'S YOUR FRIEND? SHE'S BEEN DOING, DOING THAT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL IT SOUNDS LIKE TOO, USING VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL FOR A VENUE. IT'S AMAZING. I'M THAT KIND OF JUST SORT OF POPPED UP HERE, ISN'T IT? WELL, YOU KNOW, GOOD FOR BEN. FORGET PUTTING IT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE WAS MUCH OUTREACH INTO THE COMMUNITY. MM-HMM. . SO IT'S NOT THE SAME THOUGH. THAT'S TOO LONG AFTERNOON. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? VERY WELL, THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. YES. YOU WANT ME TO SIT HERE? OH, THE HOT SEAT. YES, PLEASE. OH, THE HOT SEAT. THE HOT SEAT. I KNOW THERE'S ONE QUESTION FROM THE LADY ON MY LEFT HERE. YEAH. IF WE GO, ARE WE WAITING FOR ED? OH, ED, YEAH. IT SHOULD BE BACK. PEOPLE FIND YOU OUT AT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL. THIS, THIS LAST, UH, PERFORMANCE THAT YOU RECENTLY DID, PEOPLE FIND ME. DID. IT IS SUCH, IT IS SO FAR AWAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. DID PEOPLE, EVENTUALLY WE HAVE A BETTER CROWD THAN WHERE WE WERE BEFORE. OH REALLY? GREAT. RIGHT? IT WAS A TRY TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. YES. BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GO TO THE CHURCH ANYMORE. YEAH. YOU KNOW THE STORY, RIGHT? NO. SO WHAT'S THE STORY? NO, CHURCH. THE PASTOR LEFT. OH, THE METHODIST CHURCH. CHURCH. OH, IT IS THE METHODIST CHURCH. SO IT IS NOT FUNCTIONING ANYMORE. SO THE WHOLE METHOD, THE METHODIST, BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SAME PROBLEM. AND SO THEY COULD NOT USE THE METHODIST CHURCH ANYMORE BECAUSE THE PASTOR LEFT. SO DID THE, DID THE CHURCH JUST SHUT DOWN TO THE, TO, SO, BUT WE WANTED TO GO TO THE CREATIVE ARTS. NO. YES. CREATIVE. CREATIVE. NO, IT'S ON ROAD. CREATIVE ART CENTER. CREATIVE ART CENTER. AND WE PAY, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE THE, AND THEN THEY CANCEL AND WE LOST 800. NO, NO. GEEZ. YES. AND ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBER WANTED ME TO, WE TRIED, WE TRIED TO GO AFTER THEM TO TALK TO HIM NICELY. AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE US THE MONEY, SO WE HAD TO THINK QUICKLY. AND THEN THE, THE PROBLEM OF, OF COURSE, FOR US, WE NEED A GOOD PIANOS, ESPECIALLY WE, WE, WE SLEPT THE PIANO FROM EITHER OR PHOENIX. SO THEY ALREADY HAD A PIANO THERE THAT COULD SERVE AS A SECOND PIANO. I SAID, LOOK, MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY THE VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL. THEY HAVE A NICE STAGE AND WE COULD TRY. WOW. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAD TO TO GET ONE PIANO. BUT IT'S, IT'S STILL A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE STAND THEY SEND US WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH SINCE COVID IT IS COMPLICATED BECAUSE THERE IS A SHORTAGE IN PIANOS ON THE WEST COAST. SO IT'S COMPLICATED. SO, SO IT WORKED WELL AT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL, BUT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE VERY HAPPY BECAUSE WE HAD MORE PEOPLE. SO THEY DO PUBLICITY ALSO. AND WE FIND IT PRETTY GOOD. THAT ACOUSTIC IS NICE. UH, I ASKED THE ARTIST WHAT THEY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ALL PLAY IN BIG STAGE LIKE LINCOLN CENTER, CARNEGIE HALL. SO I WANTED TO HAVE THE FEEDBACK OF OTHER ARTISTS THAN ME. AND WE, WE, WE ENJOY. MAYBE THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THE PARKING. OKAY. BUT PEOPLE CAME, PEOPLE CAME GOOD. ESPECIALLY THE FIRST DAY AND THE SURVEY. SO IT WAS IN. SO, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL GO THERE FOR THE, FOR THE TENANT AND NEXT YEAR. GOOD. CHRISTINE? YES. UM, JUST, JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON YOUR EXPENSES LISTED ON WHAT EXACTLY IS THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING [03:50:01] FOR 8,650? UH, SAY AGAIN? THE, THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING. OKAY. THE TRAVEL, UH, THE AIRPLANE, UH, TRAINING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. OKAY. IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON THE SAME, YOU DON'T DO ANY TRAINING? NO, I DON'T TRAIN. JUST SO . NO, NO. THEY'RE EXPENSES BECAUSE WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS GOING FROM COMING FROM EUROPE. UH, SO IT IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. UH, OKAY. BECAUSE, UM, THINK THE NARRATIVE, YOU HAD 5,000 FOR AIRFARE AND THEN I ASSUME THE REST IS LODGING IN MEALS, LODGING, MEAL. I MEAN, I COOK, I COOK ONE NIGHT FOR 30 PEOPLE, WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK. I DON'T KNOW UNTIL WHEN I CAN DO THAT, BUT OKAY. I STILL CAN DO IT. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO CHRISTMAS, I MEAN, HOLIDAY CONCERT THAT WE DO WITH, UH, CHRISTMAS AND HANAH TOGETHER. ONE AT THE LIBRARY, ONE WE DID AT THE, AT THE SCHOOL. THAT WAS ACTUALLY NICE. THE CHRISTMAS CONCERTS AND THE BIG FESTIVAL, THE THREE DAYS WHERE WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS. SO WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS ALSO FOR THE CHRISTMAS CONCERT. AND A LEADER LOCAL. THE GOAL IS TO BRING LOCAL PEOPLE. BUT AS YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLICATED WITH ART, CLASSICAL MUSIC, I MEAN CULTURE IN GENERAL. WE REALLY NEED TO, TO SUPPORT CULTURE AND THE ART AND, AND WE TRY TO, AND WRITING IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WHY DO YOU DO IT HERE? WHY DO YOU, WHY DO YOU DO IT HERE? WELL, I, I LIVE IN, IN, IN THE VILLAGE NOW, BUT I'M STILL WORK. I MEAN, I WORK IN ONLINE IN PHILADELPHIA WITH TEMPLE UNIVERSITY. BUT MY GOAL AND, AND MY CONCERTS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO PARIS IN SEPTEMBER, THEN IN COLUMBIA IN NOVEMBER, THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WORK. BUT FOR SEDONA, MY GOAL AS AN ARTIST IS TO BRING CULTURE, CLASSICAL MUSIC, TO DIFFERENT CLASSICAL MUSIC BECAUSE IT'S GOING DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN. MM-HMM. . AND THAT MAKES ME WORRIED FOR THE FUTURE OF CLASSICAL MUSIC. MAKES ME WORRIED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IN PHILADELPHIA, THE UNIVERSITY OF THE ARTS THAT SHUT DOWN THE OLDEST, UH, UNIVERSITY, THE MUSICAL ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY. BANKRUPTCY. AND THAT'S ALLOWING TO SEE, TO SEE THAT. MM-HMM. . SO, YOU KNOW, AS I HAVE THE ENERGY, I DO AS MUCH AS I CAN TO, TO BRING REALLY THE TOP OF THE TOP ARTIST HERE AND, AND PROMOTE CLASSICAL MUSIC, THE ART LITERATURE. 'CAUSE WE BRING PIANO AND, AND LITERATURE. THAT'S THE, THE, THE ROLE OF THE FESTIVAL. PIANO AND LITERATURE TOGETHER. WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT NEXT YEAR FOR THE NEXT FESTIVAL, WHICH IS THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY, WHICH IS, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. I'M INVITING THE BEST SELLER FROM FRANCE BECAUSE THE THING WILL BE FROM PARIS TO SEDONA, WHICH CAN COVER A LOT OF INTERESTING SUBJECT THERE FROM PARIS TO SEDONA. AND SO I DECIDE TO INVITE THIS BEST WITH WELL KNOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND, UH, ANOTHER PIANIST, THE ONLY CLASSICAL PIANIST KENCHI WERE INVITED, UH, FOUR YEARS AGO DURING COVID KENCHI WITH, WITH ANOTHER POET, WITH PROFESSOR AT, UH, IN PHOENIX. AND, AND SO I THINK IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO HAVE. AND ALSO WE HAVE ANOTHER, THE SAME SOPRANO THAT WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO FROM COLUMBIA, UH, SOUTH AMERICA, WHO IS COMING BACK WITH, UH, JAM WITH ANOTHER PIANIST FROM PARIS. SO I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING BIG WITH THE FRENCH EMBASSY FROM LOS ANGELES. I CROSS MY FINGER THAT CAN BRING SOME PEOPLE HERE. IF WE HAVE THE AMBASSADOR INVOLVED, THE FRENCH AMBASSADOR INVOLVED. I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE HAVE TO TRY. YES. IT'S ALL I CAN DO. SANDRA . IT'S AMAZING. IT'S JUST AMAZING. DID YOU SEE THE OVERVIEW OF THE, OF THE PAPER TWO WEEKS AGO? [03:55:01] I DID, BUT I HAD A LONG TALK WITH TIM PERRY. WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE TEAM HERE. WELL, HE IS TIM PERRY. HE DOES AN AMAZING JOB, DOESN'T HE? WITH ALL THE ARTS. HE IS EXTRAORDINARY. HE'S WRITING IS BEAUTIFUL. AND I SAY, WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU, TO HAVE YOU HERE. YOU KNOW, I TOLD HIM IT WAS WONDERFUL. AND HE DOES THIS. HE TRY, AS SOON HE SAY, WE NEED TO BRING TURE. I SAY YES, BUT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO DO THAT. IT'S COMPLICATED. YES, IT IS. WHEN YOU SEE IN PHILADELPHIA, THEY ARE GOING DOWN, WHICH IS, I MEAN, COME ON, PHILADELPHIA. YOU KNOW, I, I SEE THE WEST GROWING, BUT THERE IS GOING DOWN BEING ON, YOU KNOW, IS IT TOO CLOSE LIVING HERE AND LIVING THERE. IT'S JUST, UH, 'CAUSE TEXAS IS GROWING ALSO. ARIZONA IS GROWING. BUT I'M IN A CITY LIKE PHILADELPHIA SHUTTING DOWN THIS BIG UNIVERSITY FOR THE ART. ANYBODY ELSE? SENDRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND FOR YOUR PASSION. THANK YOU TO, TO KEEP AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR, HELP US THROUGH, I MEAN, AS WE HAVE THE ENERGY, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY TO PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW UNTIL WHEN I CAN PLAY AND COOK AND, AND ORGANIZE OR ORGANIZE, YOU KNOW, TRUST PEOPLE. IT'S A LOT. YOU KNOW, AT THE TABLE. IT A TINY THANK YOU. THANK YOU ST HAVE A GOOD ONE. BYE. SO WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? WAS IT 13 FIVE? IS THAT THE YEAH, YEAH. 13 FIVE. WE ASK 67 50. WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. WHAT LAST YEAH. IS WHAT THEY'RE LIVING ON NOW. 'CAUSE IT'S A TINY, IT WAS A TINY ISSUE. THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S REQUEST. OKAY. OH BOY. THAT'S PASSION. I'M TELLING YOU. OKAY. JOEY SALEFISH, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. MM-HMM. . I TALKED TO HER AND I SAID, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT GETTING THE NUMBERS UP? AND UM, I NEED TO HEAR BACK. YEAH, BECAUSE SHE, THIS, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR 500. SHE COUNTS EVERY STUDENT IN THE SCHOOL. YEAH. REALLY? BUT SHE ONLY HAD 1669 TOTAL RESIDENTS LAST YEAR, INCLUDING ADULTS AND CHILDREN. OH, OKAY. I I WORKED ON 15 HERE, SO THEN I DIDN'T MAKE COUNT AND I CAN'T REMEMBER. I, I JUST DON'T EVEN REALLY UNDERSTAND. IT GOT ABOUT A HUNDRED DEGREES DOWN. THIS PROGRAM IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S IN THE SCHOOL. SO, HEY JODY, HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING GREAT. HOW ARE YOU? GREAT, THANK YOU. YOU WANT ME TO SIT WAY DOWN HERE? YEAH, YOU'RE JUST IN THE CENTER. THANKS. YOUR PROGRAM, UM, YOUR PROGRAM, AS WE MENTIONED, I MEAN IT, THE, WE HAVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, SO WE UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS THAT SPORT HAVE TO THE PERSONAL GROWTH OF THE KIDS. RIGHT. THERE'S NO QUESTION IN OUR MINDS ABOUT THAT. SO, UH, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. MM-HMM. . UM, AND I ASSUME YOU'RE THE ONLY, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S THE PAID PART-TIME, RIGHT? PERSON FOR SALESFISH FOR, YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S YOU AND PART-TIME. YEAH. AND VOLUNTEER RIDE TIME, LIKE THE REST OF IT. THE REST OF IT, YEAH. THE OTHER 95%, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. AND SEAN DOESN'T TAKE A SALARY AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE GO UPSIDE DOWN ON MOST STUFF , SO. WELL, YOU KNOW, TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING US FEE FOR 25, WAS IT? MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH. THAT WOULD, UM, ALLOW US TO HAVE THE POOL TIME TO DEVOTE SPECIFICALLY TO THAT. RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO IS RUN PROGRAMS CONCURRENTLY. UM, I MANAGED TO GET LIKE FOR MY LITTLE PRE-COMPETITION KIDS A LITTLE TIME, BUT I'M SHARING THE POOL WITH THE SWIMMING LESSONS THIS SUMMER. UM, SO WE'RE GETTING LIKE A LITTLE, A LITTLE CORNER OF THE POOL TO DO THAT, WHERE I CAN BE IN THE WATER WITH THEM AND STUFF. SO, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE NOT FOCUSED BETWEEN SENIORS. I, I WROTE AFTER I TALKED TO YOU, I WROTE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OKAY. OKAY. WHAT A CURRICULUM THAT WOULD INCLUDE PEOPLE THAT OKAY. THAT WE COULD BRING MORE PEOPLE IN. SO JUST SOMETHING FOR NO, NO, NO CONSIDERATION. GOOD. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. YEAH, YOU BET. HAPPY TO DO IT. THANK YOU. I, UM, [04:00:01] I WAS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AT A LOSS AND SEAN REMINDED ME, HE'S LIKE, REMEMBER 2020, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID BECAUSE WE HAD NO POOL TO GET INTO. SO, UM, OKAY. OKAY. WE DO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A WAY TO INCLUDE MORE PEOPLE YES. IF THEY WANT TO COME AND, AND BUILD THAT CONFIDENCE WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO GET IN THE WATER. YES. UNTIL SUCH A POINT AS THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, READY TO DO THAT. SO IF YOU, UM, IF YOU DO THAT, IF WE DO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DRY LAND. MM-HMM. , UM, THE DRY LAND PLUS THE POOL, WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE POOL. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, THE PROGRAM BUDGET SPECIFICALLY. THAT LITTLE SHEET THAT'S GOT THE, THE EXPENSES AND THE DOES THAT, WHAT CHANGES ABOUT THAT? ANYTHING? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? UM, REALLY NOTHING, NOTHING CHANGES ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE LIKE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR THAT. SO IT WOULDN'T ADD ANY MM-HMM. EXTRA, UM, EXPENSE. THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT I HAVE NOT DONE YET, AND IT IT WILL PROBABLY BE OKAY, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY POOL IS OKAY WITH US DOING DRY LAND. THE DRY LAND. MM-HMM. . SO THE, BECAUSE MY, UM, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE AGAIN, MAYBE THIS, I'M JUST, IT'S A HOLDOVER FROM, UH, YEARS GONE BY THAT THE $25,000 WAS FOR KEEPING THE POOL OPEN. NO, WE'RE PAYING OUR LANE SPACE PAYING, UM, INSTRUCTORS. UM, OKAY. YOU KNOW. OKAY. BECAUSE I, I'M JUST NOT SEEING THE PROGRAM BUDGET. UM, YEAH. AND I THINK I, I THINK I USED THE FIGURES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR LAST YEAR FOR, UM, PAYING PEOPLE AND LIFEGUARD ON PAGE NINE, WE HAVE TO SUPPLY OUR OWN LIFEGUARDS AND OKAY. UM, IN THE WINTER. AND SO THAT'S LIKE THE FULL, THE FULL NINE MONTH PROGRAM THAT HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, RUNNING NINE, NINE TO 12 MONTHS. SO IS WHAT WE FIGURED WE COULD MAKE THAT PROGRAM. I'M SORRY IF I'VE SEEN A LITTLE DANCE HERE, BUT THERE IS A HIGH SCHOOL SWIM PROGRAM AT RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL. RIGHT. THERE IS, I'M THE HIGH SCHOOL COACH ALSO. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WONDERED. AND IT WAS LIKE THAT HOW LONG THE SEASON IS THAT? IT'S FROM AUGUST. UM, SO OUR FIRST PRACTICE WILL BE AUGUST 12TH AND THEN THE STATE MADE IS THE END OF THE SEASON. AND THAT'S USUALLY RIGHT AROUND THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF NOVEMBER. SO LIKE RIGHT AROUND BETWEEN THE 10TH AND THE 15TH IS USUALLY WHEN THAT FALLS. OKAY. THAT SECOND WEEKEND IN NOVEMBER. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD DO A JUNIOR HIGH PROGRAM DURING THAT TIME ALSO, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS BECAUSE WE CAN'T MIX THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, PROGRAM WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAM. , EVEN MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE HAVE MIXED MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL EITHER, SO. OKAY. AND THEN HOW MANY, HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU HAVE IN THAT HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM? THIS YEAR? WE HAD, WE HAD SEVEN. AND PART OF MY MOTIVATION IS TO, WE STARTED OUT WITH LIKE 15 UHHUH AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT, UM, INSPIRED ME IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT DON'T SWIM YEAR ROUND FELT VERY, UH, INTIMIDATED I WOULD SAY BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE THE KIDS WHO ARE TRAINING TO, YOU KNOW, COMPETE IN STATE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE KIDS WHO ARE LIKE, OH, I'M JUST LIKE FLOUNDERING DOWN THE POOL AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M DOING AND I'M NOT LIKE THOSE GUYS. I SEE. SO I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN BUILD THAT, THAT SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE LOOKING THEN FOR AN, AN EXTENSION ESSENTIALLY OF THE YEAH. SO KIDS CAN BE AVAILABILITY WITH THE EMPHASIS ON COMPETITION. CORRECT. AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE EMPHASIS. I SUPPOSE THE EMPHASIS IS REALLY ON CONNECTION AND LEARNING EFFECTIVE LIFE SKILLS. UM, CATCHING THEM WHEN THEY'RE LIKE SIXTH TO EIGHTH GRADE. SO THEY, UM, IF YOU READ THROUGH THIS, LIKE THERE'S LIKE INTERACTING OR WORKING SUCCESSFULLY WITH YOUR COACHES AND TEACHERS WORKING SUCCESSFULLY WITH YOUR PARENTS. WE NOTICE A LOT OF THE KIDS ON THE, ON THE TEAM. I COACH THE YEAR-ROUND TEAM. UM, THAT'S A BIG THING FOR THEM IS GETTING INTO HIGH SCHOOL, COMPETING, UH, GO, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR HOMEWORK DONE, COMING TO CLUB PRACTICE. SO IT'S HELPING THEM BALANCE THEIR LIFE AT A TIME WHEN THEY REALLY NEED IT AND FORMING THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER KIDS. UM, SOME OF MY HIGH SCHOOL SWIMMERS, I HAD THEM MAKE A VIDEO AND EVERYBODY SAID THE CONNECTIONS, THE RIDES TO THE MEAT ON THE BUS, HE'S GONNA HAVE LIFELONG FRIENDSHIPS AND THE FOUR SENIORS THAT ARE GRADUATING ARE JUST LIKE BOSOM BUDDIES. AND SO WHAT, HOW DOES THIS CHANGE THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE? WE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO GET MORE PEOPLE AS WE, AS WE DISCUSSED THAT NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SWIM. AND GRANTED [04:05:02] SEDONA AS A WHOLE DOESN'T REALLY SEE SWIMMING AS A, LIKE A OOH, IMPORTANT THING. LIKE FOOTBALL. YEAH. OR BASKETBALL . BUT, UM, IT REALLY, I MEAN THE, THE, WHEN YOU GET UNDER THE WATER, THE BDSF, THAT LIKE IN YOUR BRAIN, IT HELPS YOU FOCUS, IT, IT, THE RHYTHM, IT REALLY HELPS LIKE THE A DD KITS. WELL, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT, WHEN YOU, IF THEY START ON DRY LAND, THEY END UP ON DRY LAND, MAYBE THEY GET INTO THE WATER AT SOME POINT. YEAH. AT SOME POINT WHEN THEY FEEL, WHEN THEY FEEL CONFIDENT. SO HOW MANY SWIMMING? SWIMMING KIDS. OKAY. SO WITH THIS PROGRAM HERE, HOW MANY PEOPLE? IT CHANGES THE NUMBERS. MM-HMM. . WELL, I HAVE, I HAVE 15 KIDS THAT ARE INTERESTED SO FAR THAT ARE THAT DRY LANDERS OR NO WATER KIDS. WATER KIDS. I HAVEN'T EVEN LIKE REACHED OUT ABOUT DRY LAND BECAUSE I WANTED TO LIKE DISCUSS THAT FIRST AND OKAY, SO THESE 15 KIDS, DO THEY INCLUDE YOUR LENGTH, THE TEAM, THE TEAM KIDS? NO, THESE ARE ALL NEW KIDS THAT CAME IN THAT ARE SIXTH THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE THAT, UM, CAME IN FOR THIS FOR THE SUMMER THAT ARE JUST GETTING THEIR FEET WET IN THE, IN THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF DOING A LITTLE PILOT PROGRAM TO SEE, YOU KNOW, KNOW HOW THIS WOULD WORK. AND MOST OF THEM ARE FROM RUNNING RIVER SCHOOL. SO AS OPPOSED TO, UM, MOST OF THE, FOR SOME REASON THEY ADVERTISE THE SUMMER SWIM LEAGUE AT THE SEDONA WEST SCHOOL AND THEY WON'T LET US ADVERTISE THIS PROGRAM EVEN THOUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS APPROVED. SO, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE IRONED OUT. WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH, WITH SEDAH SCHOOL? THEY WOULDN'T, WHAT THEY, THEY DON'T LET THEY, I TRIED TO LIKE OPEN IT, GIVE THEM A FLYER FOR THIS AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO, WE CAN'T HAVE OUTSIDE BUSINESSES. BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE SCHOOL IS THE ONE WHO SENT ME OVER THERE WITH FLYERS. UM, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW. US GETTING IRONED OUT, I CAN DO IT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE HIGH SCHOOL'S POSTING ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE AND STUFF. SO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN OUTSIDE BUSINESS, YOU'RE NOT, I MEAN YEAH, NO, I KNOW. IT'S LIKE, WELL THEY SAID OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION, THEY SAID AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION. SO I'M NOT SURE IF, BECAUSE THE SEDONA SWORDFISH, WHO'S A NONPROFIT, DOES A RECREATIONAL TEAM THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING THAT AND WE'RE A NONPROFIT. SO I, I'M NOT SURE. I JUST LIKE TURNED THAT OVER TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND JUST STEPPED BACK FROM THAT BECAUSE HE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING IN, IN ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTING WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE. OKAY. SO HOW WOULD YOU RECRUIT MORE, HOW WOULD YOU RECRUIT PEOPLE TO FILL THIS TO, YOU'VE GOT YOUR 15 WATER KIDS. HOW WOULD YOU RECRUIT THE LAND, THE LAND FISH? I WOULD GO RECRUIT, UM, AT THE, AT THE REGISTRATION OF THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. THEY HAVE, UM, THEY'LL HAVE A DAY AND ACTUALLY MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES. I CAN HANG OUT THERE ON LUNCH HOURS AND GIVE OUT FLYERS. UM, THEY HAVE THE ORIENTATION NIGHT WHERE I WILL HAVE A TABLE. OKAY. AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE PEOPLE FLYERS. OKAY. SO WHAT UM, UH, IN ORDER TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WE CAN DO. 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE 30, WHAT IS IT WE'RE ASKING FOR? 25. 25,000? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. LET'S DISCUSS IT AND MAYBE IF WE, UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THIS, SOME OF THE MONEY YOU'RE ASKING FOR TO KICKSTART THE LAND PROGRAM? OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, I GOT IT. ALRIGHT, COOL. I HAVE YOU BROUGHT THE TODDLER THING ALL TOGETHER. ARE YOU STILL DOING THAT? I AM DOING THE TODDLER THING. UM, I'M DOING PRE-COMPETITION. CITY OF SEDONA KIND OF TOOK OVER. WHAT WE FOUND WAS THE KIDS ARE REALLY, THEY LOVE THE SWIMMING LESSONS. WE DID THE AUTUMN PROGRAM. THE AUTUMN PROGRAM. YEAH. AND WE HAD A LOT OF RESPONSE. AND THEN THE CITY OF SEDONA TOOK OVER AND DID THE, UM, WINTER, LIKE OVER CHRISTMAS BREAK THING. SO THEY HAVE LESSONS IN THE WINTER AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS LIKE BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND FEBRUARY, IT'S REALLY TOO COLD FOR THE LITTLE KIDS, EVEN WITH THOSE LITTLE WETSUITS. YEAH. UM, SO I JUST KIND OF LIKE STEP BACK FROM THAT. AND I DO A PRE-COMPETITION FOR LITTLE KIDS THAT WANT TO LEARN TO SWIM LIKE 300 YARDS OR MORE. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE LEVEL AT WHICH YOU CAN REALLY CONSIDER THEM STRONG SWIMMERS WHERE IF YOU'RE OUT ON A BOAT AND THEY FALL OFF YEAH. THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW. SO WHAT YOU STARTED LAST YEAR WITH THE KIDS PROGRAM, THE, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT KIND OF TOOK THAT OVER FOR YOU? IT, IT KIND OF, YEAH, THEY KIND OF, THEY HIJACKED IT ADAPTED WHAT I WAS DOING. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, AND I HAD TALKED TO BEFORE CARMEN WAS IN, UM, AS THE POOL MANAGER. I TALKED TO JOSH ABOUT, HE'D BE VERY SUPPORTIVE AS LONG AS I DON'T DIRECTLY COMPETE. AND THEN THE CALL NOW HAS AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM. SO THEY TOOK OVER THAT PHASE, WHICH THEY'RE TOM, TOM, [04:10:01] THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ME DO THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM TOO. SO OVERSEE THAT. SO WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE SIX, WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE, THAT MONEY FUELED A RENEWED INTEREST. MM-HMM. IN THE CITY THROUGH THE CITY PROGRAMS THEMSELVES TO OFFERING SWIMMING. AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH, NO, YOU'RE HEARING THAT THEY HIJACK THEY HIJACKED YOUR PROGRAM. I'M NOT AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A BAD WAY. YEAH, I DON'T AT BAD EITHER. I'M LIKE, I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE, OH, OKAY. YEAH. I STARTED THIS THING AND THEY SAW THE VALUE IN IT AND NOW THEY'RE DOING IT. YES. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA HEAR ON THE RECORDER BECAUSE THAT INDICATES YOUR SUCCESS. MM-HMM. AND YOUR ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT, AND SHOW THE VALUE. SO TO THE POINT WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO TAKE IT OVER. OKAY, NOW WHY WOULDN'T YOU FUND THIS GIRL'S NEW PROGRAM? YOU HIJACKED HER ONE FROM LAST YEAR. 'CAUSE SHE DID SO WELL AND SHOWED THE VALUE TO THE CITY. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE'S STARTING FROM SCRATCH AGAIN. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S, AND YOU, YOU JUST MIGHT FIND THAT THIS ONE'S SO GOOD TOO. YOU WANNA TAKE THAT TOO? THAT'S TRUE. AND SO I, I REALLY LOOK TO SEE WHERE IS THE NEED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ATHLETIC SPORTS PROGRAMS, ALL OF 'EM ARE, ARE, ARE GOING DOWN AND, UM, MR. INGER, UH, DR. SCHWANINGER, YOU KNOW, BELIEVES THAT THE WAY TO BUILD OUR COMMUNITY IS TO START WITH BUILDING OUR YOUTH. SO, UM, THAT'S LIKE, I'M REALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT. I'M REALLY ON BOARD WITH BUILDING YOUTH AND THAT IS SUCH A GOOD AGE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN SIXTH GRADE AND 12TH GRADE. AND WE HAVEN'T MET, UH, WE HAVE EVEN MORE TEAM SWIMMERS PROBABLY HAVE LIKE FIVE OR SIX, BUT YOU KNOW, IN A YEAR OR TWO THEY'LL BE ON THE HIGH SCHOOL TEAM. OKAY. SO IT'LL, IT'LL COME BACK. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR . OKAY. FIVE FOR HIGH SCHOOL. AND THAT I THINK, UM, AT LEAST I CAN MAKE A CASE. I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE A CASE HERE, I THINK FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I MEAN, LIKE, NOT THAT LONG AGO IT WAS LIKE 30 KIDS ON THE TEAM. SO I DON'T KNOW. IT HAPPENED BETWEEN LIKE 2000. I MEAN, I WASN'T THE COACH, I JUST STARTED COACHING LAST YEAR, BUT THE, THE INTEREST IN SWIMMING HAS LIKE PLUMMETED. WELL, IT TAKES, YOU'RE, IT SEEMS TO YOU, IT SEEMS YOU'RE GETTING IT BACK UP THERE. YEAH. I'M DOING MY BEST. JODY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOUR TIME UP. I COULD, I CAN STRATEGIZE WITH YOU ALL DAY, BUT YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TILL NO, WE, I'VE GOT THE WHOLE, WHOLE SCHEDULE. I'M SORRY. OKAY. 14. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HEY, THANK YOU JODY. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD. SEE YOU FOUR 14. AND THEN I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT BECAUSE I MEAN, HERE ARTS IS FOUR, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR SHE, AND THEY TOOK IT AND NOW SHE'S DOING IT STARTING FROM SCRATCH AND GOING AGAIN. YEAH. BUT I CAN'T, FOUR 30 TO FOUR 40. I CAN'T PUT MYSELF IN THE, THE LAST ONE. RIGHT. SHOES OF THE KID WHO WAS AFRAID OF WATER AND BACK AROUND SIGNS UP FOR THE DRY LAND PROGRAM BECAUSE I HAVE FOUR 40. THAT'S A TOUGH SELL FOR ME. IT'D BE WORTHWHILE THEN. IT WORKS. IF IT WORKS, IT'D BE GREAT TO TRY. BUT SEE, THE THING IS SHE HAD SUCCESS BEFORE, RIGHT? SHE HAS SUCCESS BEFORE. SO GIVE HER SOME SEED MONEY. SHE TO TRY IT AGAIN. I WANT SEE SOMETHING. WHAT, WHAT DOES IT DO? WHAT DOES SHE SUCCEEDS AGAIN? THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. YEAH. SO I MEAN THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT. BUT I'M THE OWNER, NOT THE ONLY WAY. SHE, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE REGULAR SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING SEVEN KIDS INTO, UM, NOT THE DRY LAND. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WATER PART. THAT'S GONNA GO FROM LATER IN THE, IN THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, AFTER MM-HMM. . UM, IS THAT, THAT'S INVOLVED COMPETITION? THAT THAT'S THE CONCEPT OF IT'S PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION OF SWIMMERS. RIGHT. THAT I FORGOT TO THAT I THINK YOU'RE THINKING SWORDFISH YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SWORDFISH SWORD, SWORDFISH. THEY GO TO MEATS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S SWORDFISH IS THE SWIM TEAM. IS THE, IS THE, IS THE SWIM TEAM. THAT'S, THIS IS SAILFISH. THIS IS SAILFISH AND IT'S NOT MEATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NO, SHE, NO, WHAT SHE DOES IS SHE CULTIVATES THEM TOWARD COMPETITION, BUT SHE DOESN'T GO TO THE MEATS. BUT SEE THE WHAT, WHAT SHE, THAT'S LIKE WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE. YES. I'M SUPPORTING MELISSA. SHE'S APPARENTLY COACHING THE SWORDFISH AS WELL. DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT? I THINK, YEAH. I THINK THAT, I THINK SHE'S COACHING THE SWORDFISH. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS. RIGHT. THIS PROGRAM IS SEPARATE. DO PEOPLE KIDS HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO THIS PROGRAM THAT SHE'S NO, NOT AT ALL. THEY DON'T PAY HERE. I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THEY PAID IT FOR THIS PROGRAM. [04:15:01] DO THEY? I DUNNO. I JUST CLOSED IT. THEY DON'T PAY FOR THIS. SO THEY GET TO GO TO THE POOL AND, AND IF THERE IS A FEE, THEN THEY COULD MAYBE APPLY THE LEASE FOR YEAH, THERE'S NO FEE. I'M SURE MAYBE THERE'S A, THERE'S NO FEE, NO FEES. BUT IN HER BUDGET, SHE'S GOT, SHE'S GOT RENTAL IN THE POOL, RIGHT? OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. WELL SHE'S GOT CITY OF SEDONA GRANT. THE, UH, WELL, YEAH, SHE'S GOT IT. SHE HAS TO RENT HER SPACE. SHE'S GOT A RENT. SHE HAS TO PAY THE CITY TO RENT POOL AREA. MM-HMM. AND FOR LIFEGUARDS AND SUCH. I THINK SHE'S THE LIFEGUARD, ISN'T SHE? NO, SHE SAID SHE HAD TO HAVE A LIFEGUARD. SHE DOES. OKAY. SO SHE'S GOT, SHE'S GOT, SO SHE HAD TO RUN HER PROGRAM. SO SHE'S DOING THE TEACHING AND THEN WHY SOMEBODY'S WATCHING THE KIDS. ALRIGHT. I, I'M SORRY. NO, DON'T APOLOGIZE. I DID THAT ALL SWIMMING TOGETHER IN MY HEAD TOGETHER. LITERALLY. YOU HAVE A SCHOOL OF FISH. STOP IT. . UM, FOUR 15, UM, ARTS FESTIVAL. YEAH. BRING THE FESTIVAL IN. I'M GONNA GO TO THE LADIES' ROOM. YOU GUYS START. OH, I HAD NO QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY. WEREN'T THEY ADDING SOMETHING THIS YEAR? OH, LIQUOR. OH, HOPING YEAH. THAT, THAT WOULD BRING MORE PEOPLE. WELL IT WOULD ALSO BRING MORE INCOME. SO I'M WONDERING WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. I FORGOT BECAUSE I THINK THE FEES HAVE GONE UP ON THE, THEIR RENTAL FEES. THEY LOST MONEY LUNCH LAST YEAR. I JUST, THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE ENTRY FEE TO WHAT IT USED TO BE IN 2019. I, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON FOLKS. HI GUARD. SO YEAH, YOUR NAME IS I'M BOB LEN. I'M PRESIDENT AND TREASURER. OH MY GOODNESS. STORY. LORI COULDN'T MAKE IT. . ALL RIGHT. SHE'S DOWN IN, UH, PHOENIX SOMEWHERE. STEPHANIE WILL BE RIGHT BACK, BUT SHE WANTS US TO OKAY. INTRODUCE OURSELVES. MY NAME IS DEAN. DEAN. ED. ED CHRIS. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. I'M DOWN ALL DAY. BLOODY HOT OUT. SO IF I'M, IF I'M CORRECT, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE MORE MONEY IS THAT YOU WANTED TO REDUCE THE ENTRY FEE BACK TO 2019. ACTUALLY WE HAD EVEN PONDERED THE IDEA OF, UH, LOCALS FREE, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK YET. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO OPERATIONALIZE IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE OUR MIND IS. SO THAT WOULD REALLY HELP US. THIS IS OUR 35TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR. WOW. AND SO WE KIND OF WANT TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. A LITTLE SPECIAL CERTAINLY FOR THE COMMUNITY. USED TO BE FIVE BUCKS, RIGHT? WHAT IS IT NOW? GAS WAS 32 CENTS WHEN I USED TO PUMP IT. ? YEAH. WHAT WAS THE FEE THIS LAST YEAR? UH, IT WAS 15. 15. THAT'S GOOD FOR TWO DAYS. YEAH. AND KIDS UNDER 12 ARE FREE. MM-HMM. . SO YOU WANTED TO REDUCE THE ENTRY FEE FOR LOCALS. SO YOU PROBABLY PRESENTED THE DRIVER'S LICENSE. YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. IS IT A GROUP? IS IT A PERSON? DOES ONE PERSON HAVE TO SHOW AN ID AND THEN 15 FOLLOW THEM IN? SO WE HAVEN'T OPERATIONALIZED THAT PROCESS YET. AND WE, BUT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT. WE WERE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING NECK BANDS ON LOCALS, UH, JUST SO WE COULD GET THE 10% OFF AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS. EXACTLY. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M BOB LAN. ALEX, STEPHANIE. THANK YOU STEPHANIE. PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. GREAT. VERY NICE TO MEET YOU AS WELL. PRESIDENT AND TREASURER, YOUR ORGANIZATIONS FESTIVAL FOR ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THAT'S BEEN MY SIXTH. IS LORI ALIVE AND WELL. LORI'S ALIVE AND WELL BEEN IN PHOENIX. OH. OH, SHE'S, SHE DIDN'T DO A, UH, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT DOWN THERE, SO, AND UM, WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE PURPOSE OF YOUR REQUEST HERE? YES. OKAY. YOU WANNA RUN THAT BY ME ONE MORE TIME? I JUST, I'M SORRY. THE QUESTION BECAME, UH, THE ADDITIONAL MONEY, UH, FUNDING. WE HAD ASKED FOR THE 5,000, BASICALLY WHAT WERE WE GOING TO USE THAT FOR? AND EFFECTIVELY WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY HOW TO EITHER MAKE IT FREE FOR LOCALS OR CERTAINLY REDUCE, UH, FOR LOCALS. AND THAT WOULD IN PART, OFFSET SOME OF THAT, UH, [04:20:01] EXPENSE BY LOWERING THE, UM, BY LOWERING THE, THE, UM, I'M SORRY, $5,000 JUST TO LOWER THE ACCESS FOR LOCALS. YES, EXACTLY. SO 10,000 STILL COVERS YOUR RENTALS. IT DOES NOT COVER EVERYTHING. NO. ? I DIDN'T THINK SO. NO. DIDN'T IT, WASN'T IT LIKE 12,000 LAST YEAR THAT IT COST FOR WHAT YOU I MEAN, I'VE, WE, LAUREN AND I HAD PAIRED THAT THING DOWN TO THE BARE BONES. YEAH. WE EVEN CUT ENTERTAINMENT LAST YEAR IN AN EFFORT TO ACTUALLY DO TWOFOLD TO FURTHER REDUCE COST AND SEE WHAT THE EFFECT WAS. AND HONESTLY, IN MY OWN MIND AND LORI'S, IT TOOK SOME OF THE, THE FUN OUT IT. OKAY. SO WE ARE GONNA GO BACK WITH A FULL ENTERTAINMENT SCHEDULE. WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY HOW TO MAKE A BIGGER ENTERTAINMENT SCHEDULE THAN PERHAPS WHAT WE'VE HAD. THIS BEING, AGAIN, THE 35TH YEAR, WE WANNA TRY AND DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, A LITTLE MORE FANFARE ASSOCIATED. WAS IT LAST YEAR OR JUST THIS YEAR THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE, UM, OR THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE OFFERING LIQUOR? OH NO, WE'VE DONE THAT NOW. THIS'LL BE THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. BE THE THIRD YEAR? YEAH. OKAY. HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT IN TERMS OF PROFIT? UH, WE MAKE A LITTLE BIT. UH, IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD THINK. UH, YOU'VE GOT, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE SMALLER STUFF IS, IS THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, LIQUOR LICENSE. THOSE FEES ARE PRETTY SMALL. YOU GOTTA PULL EVENT INSURANCE FOR THAT EVENT WITH LIQUOR AND THAT COSTS A BUNCH MORE. UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO GIVE, UH, THE SEDONA FOUNDATION OR THE HIGH SCHOOL FOUNDATION, UH, MINIMUM OF 200 BUCKS OR $1 PER DRINK TICKET. SO, AND THEN THE COST OF ALCOHOL. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT MUCH OF A MONEY MAKER TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT, UH, SOMEONE FARMING THAT OUT. 'CAUSE I DID IT PRETTY MUCH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GO OVER THE, WE WERE USING THE, UH, TUMBLEWEED WINERY AND, UH, THAT BREWERY OVER IN COTTONWOOD TRYING TO DO THINGS LOCAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL ME JUST RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO MAKE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I DON'T THINK WE MAKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON IT FOR BOTH DAYS. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU OF THE $5,000, 'CAUSE IN THE REQUEST IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, RISING COSTS, WE GET ALL THAT. UM, THE $5,000 WOULD ALSO BE PUT A PORTION TO THAT. WHAT, WHAT PORTION OF THE $5,000 WOULD BE DEDICATED TO REDUCING ALL OF THEM? THE WHOLE 5,000 MM-HMM. . OKAY. BECAUSE HERE THEY HAVE, SHE'S GOT BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS. RYAN, WELL, BOTH LOCALS, TO BE CLEAR. RIGHT. SO YOU WANNA DEDICATE THE ENTIRE $5,000 FOR REDUCING COSTS FOR LOCALS. YES. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LOCALS. THAT'S WHAT WE OPEN FOR. OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHTY. LET'S SEE. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW SHE, YOU'VE GOT 50 RESIDENTS. 47. SO IT'S ABOUT 50 50. YEAH. WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UM, AND UH, 2000 WOULD BE THE UNIQUE ONES. SO YOU WANT TO, THAT'D BE 4,000. UM, OKAY. HAVE THE LOCAL RESIDENTS BEEN 2000 ALREADY OR WAS IT LAST YEAR? IS 2000 YOUR HISTORICAL NUMBER FOR LOCALS? YES. ANYWAY. FAIR. FAIR. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA VARY DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO'S IN TOWN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, WEEK. WE USUALLY HAVE IT OVER COLUMBUS DAY WEEKEND. SO IT'S A THREE DAY WEEK. UH, I'D SAY THAT'S A FAIRLY CONSISTENT NUMBER. THE 2000 IS, SO EVEN WITH THE INCREASES OF, OF REDUCED ADMISSIONS, YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THAT MANY MORE LOCALS STILL THE SAME NUMBER OF LOCALS. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DEFINED LOCALS EITHER. YOU KNOW, IS THAT GONNA BE COTTONWOOD PEOPLE, UH, IS GONNA BE VOC PEOPLE? SO AGAIN, WE'RE STILL IN THE FORMATIVE STAGES OF YEAH. OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WELL, STRICTLY SPEAKING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE $5,000, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR SEDONA RESIDENCE. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. BUT YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY THEN, THEN THAT GETS BACK TO BASICALLY HOW WE WOULD DO IT IS ESSENTIALLY JUST SHOW ME YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE AND YEAH, NO, JUST 3, 3 6 ZIPPER APPROXIMATELY, THEREABOUTS. AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT. THAT'S, IF YOU'RE CONFIRMING TO US THAT THAT $5,000, THAT EXTRA $5,000 YOU'RE ASKING, THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO REDUCING TICKET PRICES [04:25:01] FOR LOCALS THAN IT WOULD BE TOWARDS SEDONA RESIDENTS. THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. THAT WOULD MAKE YOUR NUMBERS TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE YOUR NUMBERS ACTUALLY WORK BETTER TOO. BECAUSE IF YOU GIVE FREE ADMISSION TO HALF YOUR PEOPLE, THAT'S A LOT OF REDUCTION OF, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL COVER FREE ADMISSION. IT WOULD PROBABLY WIND UP BEING A REDUCED ADMISSION. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. FREE ADMISSION TO 2000 PEOPLE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT REVENUE LOSS. . THAT'S WHAT YOU INDICATED. YOU SAID THAT'D BE $30,000 BY MY ACCOUNT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE GROUP? BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH CHANGE. I, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH BEEN THE SAME THING YEAR AFTER YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH. AND UM, I KNOW YEARS AGO YOU PUT LORI PRETTY MUCH THROUGH THE RINGER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COULD SHE TRIM DOWN THE OPERATING COST ANY, AND I MEAN, SHE PROVED TO, BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THAT AND MAINTAIN THE PRETTY MUCH BARE BONES AT THIS POINT. I MEAN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE OF US THAT, THAT GO OUT THERE AND, AND GRID THE FIELD. AND, UH, TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO, BECAUSE WE HAD A $4,000 GENERATOR, WE CUT THAT. WE'RE USING THE TWO GENERATORS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE LIGHTS FROM. WELL, WE HAVE THOSE. WHY NOT JUST USE THOSE? UH, WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS ON THE FIELD, SO WE JUST WANT THE GENERATORS AND IT WAS JUST, IT'S JUST A LOT EASIER. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT. BELIEVE ME. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO YEAH. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO. I, I'M AN ACCOUNTANT. MM-HMM. . AND I'M A COST ACCOUNTANT. SO EVERYTHING I LOOK AT IS FROM A VERY BIASED OPINION IN TERMS OF COST. I CHALLENGE EVERYTHING. CAN WE DO THIS CHEAPER, FASTER, BETTER, LESS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LESS CUMBERSOME, HOWEVER YOU WANT. LOOK AT IT. I ALWAYS CHALLENGE THAT. AND WE'VE COME DOWN PARTICULARLY IN THE TENT RENTALS, THAT WAS JUST, OH MY GOODNESS. WE WERE IN THE TENT RENTAL BUSINESS WHEN I FIRST STARTED AND WE HAD, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME WITHOUT ANY TENSION. UH, COME ON , YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL ARTIST. YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR OWN TENT. WE CAN'T BE SUPPLYING THAT. AND THEN WE GET TO PUT 'EM UP AND HELP TAKE THEM. YOU GOTTA BE SELF-CONTAINED. SO WE, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SO MANY THINGS OVER THE LAST CERTAINLY FIVE OR SIX YEARS NOW THAT I'VE BEEN THERE, THAT I'M OUT, I'M OUT OF MATERIAL AT THIS POINT. NO, I, NO, TO BE HONEST, WE WERE NOT, WE WERE NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT ALL. IN FACT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE LEASE. IT, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE LEASE BIT SURPRISED TO BE ASKED THE $5,000 FOR INCREASED COSTS. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS I SAID TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. SO YEAH. WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY TRYING. THANK YOU. WELL WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE APPRECIATE THE AGREEMENT TO GIVE BACK SOME OF THAT ABSOLUTELY. TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS A STRONGER CASE. IT'S ALL, AND WE'LL EVEN KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY IT'S WAY. I YES. IF YOU DO THAT, IF YOU DO THAT, IT MAKES IT MUCH STRONGER FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT'S THE ACCOUNTANT. ISN , YOU GO TRAIL. YEAH. AND WE HAVE UH, WE HAVE PHYSICIANS AND ENGINEERS AND MATHEMATICIANS HERE, THAT LIKE DATA. WE LIVE ON IT. , I'M A PHD IN ACCOUNTING, SO. GOT IT. OKAY. I LAY DATA TOO. YEAH. WE LOVE IT. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION? BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANOTHER FEW MINUTES IF YOU WANNA SHARE ANYTHING. NO, I SURE DON'T. NO, WE DON'T. GOODBYE TO MEET YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU. PLEASE COME OUT. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU. DON'T LET THE DOOR . DON'T GET ALL THAT. YEAH, THANKS SO MUCH. IT'S THE END OF THE DAY. ALRIGHT, TAKE CARE FOLKS. STAY WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. GREAT FOR GOOD WEATHER TOO. YEAH. WELL WAIT, HE SAID THAT HE HAD TWO MORE MINUTES. YOU'RE WELCOME. NO, IT'S 4 25. YEAH, NO IT IS. OH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES IN BETWEEN. SORRY. . YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY IF HE, IF HE JUST MADE AN ARGUMENT FOR INCREASED COST WITH THAT, BUT I'M NOT OKAY WITH, MAYBE WE'LL DO SOMETHING FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO'S A RESIDENT WHO'S NOT YET. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. BE NEBULOUS AGAIN. AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I THINK, AND NOW I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I CAME TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, THE HUMANE SOCIETY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SURPRISED TO ASK FOR, AND I ASKED, WE ASKED FOR MORE MONEY, BUT FOR THE WRONG, NOT ENOUGH AND FOR THE WRONG REASONS. YEAH. SO THERE YOU GO. OKAY. LIVE AND LEARN. NOW I'VE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND. HEY CAMILLA, HOW ARE YOU? HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? I'M FINE. HOW ABOUT YOU? GOOD. I FEEL SO FORMAL DOWN HERE. YEAH. WE ARE SO ALONE. I JUST FEEL SO FORMAL DOWN THERE ALL BY MYSELF. YOU ARE ALL BY YOURSELF. YOU'RE ON THE HOT SEAT GIRL. OH, THAT'S OKAY. I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE. OH YEAH. MANY TIMES. CHILDHOOD. [04:30:01] OKAY. CHRISTINE, YOU GOT OKAY. A TRAVEL QUESTION. YEP. UM, ON THE BUDGET WORKSHEET, UNDER EXPENSES, THERE'S THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING LINE. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE $1,500 IS FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING LINE. HANG ON JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. LET ME SEE. TRAVEL, RIDE. TRAVEL AND TRAINING. 15. THAT IS FOR ACTORS. WHAT ACT ACTORS FOR THREE ACTORS JUST TRAVEL FOR? NO AND NO TRAINING. JUST IT IS JUST TRAVEL. JUST TRAVEL. OKAY. ARE THOSE ACTORS COMING FROM OUT OF THE AREA OR IS IT THE SAME SITUATION AS WITH EMERSON AS TO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. SO, UM, TWO ARE COMING OUTSIDE OF SEDONA. OKAY. YOU'VE KEPT 5K FOR SEVEN DAYS OF HOUSING. AM I, WAS I READING THAT WRONG? SAY THAT AGAIN. DID YOU HAVE 5,000 FOR MM-HMM. SEVEN DAYS OF HOUSING. YEAH. ACTORS. I GOTTA PUT 'EM UP. I NOT CHEAP. IF I HAD AN AIRBNB WOULD BE GREAT. . SO YOU'RE USING HOTEL ROOMS? UM, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND HOW, HOW MANY SEVEN DAYS AND HOW MANY ACTORS DO YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY THAT ARE GONNA FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY? I HAVE THREE, BUT THEN I HAVE TWO THAT ARE IN, IN FLAGSTAFF. MM-HMM. THAT WILL COME DOWN THAT WE NEED TO STAY. SO FIVE. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, ANYBODY ELSE? QUESTIONS? WHAT ARE YOU ROCKING AND ROLLING WITH THIS YEAR, DEAR? OH MY, I, I'M REALLY EXCITED. . UM, SO ON THE OTHER HALF OF MY BRAIN, I'M DOING DRIVING MISS DAISY, UH, FOR OCTOBER, BUT I'M DOING, IN DECEMBER, WE'RE DOING HOLIDAYS ON ICE BY DAVID SEDARIS. YEAH. IT TOOK ME THREE MONTHS JUST TO GET THEM TO SAY YES. SO WE'RE DOING THAT. AND THEN, BUT THE OTHER ONE I'M DOING IS A NEW ORIGINAL PIECE WITH 10 WOMEN TELLING THEIR STORIES ABOUT THEIR CAREER AND THEIR LIVES TO THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF YOUNG WOMEN AND YOUNG MEN. BECAUSE THE YOUNG WOMEN AND MEN DON'T HAVE ELDERS TO LOOK UP TO, TO ASK QUESTIONS, TO, TO GET MENTORSHIP AND GUIDANCE ABOUT LIFE. THEY'RE LOST. SO HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT? IS THAT PART OF THIS REQUEST HERE? NO, MA'AM. OH, IT'S NOT. BUT YOU ASKED ME WHAT I DID. NO, I, I DID ASK YOU, BUT I JUST, UM, AND SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING FOR ME. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING'S COMING FROM YET, BUT IT'LL COME EVENTUALLY. BUT IT'S BECAUSE THESE WOMEN, THEY'RE 10 WOMEN, AMAZING CAREERS. SOME OF 'EM ARE SELF-MADE, YOU KNOW, WOMEN. AND IT'S LIKE, WOW, I NEED TO KNOW YOUR STORY. THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW YOUR STORY. WE KNOW STORIES THAT COME, BUT WE NEVER HEAR STORIES ABOUT AMAZING WOMEN AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THEIR LIVES. SO THAT'S MY MAY, 2025 PROJECT. IN MY OCTOBER, I'M DOING A FUNDRAISER FOR VALE . OH, GOOD FOR YOU. SO YOU'RE WORKING WITH TRACY? YES. GOOD FOR YOU. ON AN ORIGINAL PIECE WRITTEN BY ANITA SIMMONS, WHO IS PART-TIME HERE. SO SHE'S FROM SAN DIEGO AND COMES SEE HER PART-TIME. SO SHE'S A PLAYWRIGHT. AND SHE CAME TO ME, DROPPED THE SCRIPT ON MY DESK AND SAID, HEY, WILL YOU DO THIS? I READ IT AND SAID, OKAY, HOW DID YOU CHOOSE DRIVING WITH DAISY? JOAN WESTMORE IS A LOCAL ACTOR HERE. SHE SAID SHE'S BEEN ASKING ME FOR A FEW YEARS TO DO A PLAY SPECIFICALLY FOR HER. AND SHE'S WONDERFUL AND I USE HER A LOT. SO SHE SAID, I'M GONNA DO DRIVING MISS DAISY. I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING ME TO DO A LOT. RIGHT. 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE LABOR INTENSIVE, YOU KNOW, PLAYS. SO OF COURSE I READ IT, OF COURSE 'CAUSE I'VE READ IT REALLY MANY TIMES. BUT SHE'S WONDERFUL. AND WE'VE ONLY STARTED REHEARSAL, SO OH REALLY? YEAH. WOW. SHE'S WONDERFUL. AND IT JUST, UM, IT'S TIMELY, SADLY. EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I ADMIRE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO IS THAT EVERYTHING YOU DO HAS A, UM, HAS A A A CURRENT, A RELEVANCY TO IT FOR THIS, THIS, FOR WHERE WE ARE NOW IN SOCIAL, WE'RE COMING INTO [04:35:01] 2024 ELECTION YEAR. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL 'EM THE PROUD BOYS, I GUESS. AND, AND IT'S THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THIS PLACE PARTICULARLY ONLY BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT AN ELDERLY JEWISH WOMAN IN THE SOUTH IN THE FORTIES WHO DOESN'T WANNA TELL PEOPLE THAT SHE'S RICH, BUT SHE HAS THIS BLACK CARE, BLACK CARETAKER WHO DRIVES HER. BUT SHE DOESN'T WANT HIM BECAUSE SHE WANT NOBODY TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT SHE HAS MONEY. YOU KNOW. AND SO WE'RE LIVING IN THIS 20, 24 MOMENT WITH PEOPLE STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING THE SOUTH AND WHAT IT REALLY REPRESENTS FOR MANY PEOPLE. UM, AND TO BE REALLY QUICK AND REALLY SHORT, I, THREE YEARS AGO I WAS IN OUR SPACE AT THE ARTS ACADEMY AND I HAD A WOMAN COME IN, UM, SHE'S PART OF THE OLD CAR THING THAT THEY HAD ON THE WEEKENDS. AND SHE COMES IN, SHE LOOKS AT MY SPACE, SHE SAYS, WHOSE SPACE IS THIS? IT'S, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND SHE SAYS, OH. AND I LOOKED AT HER, SHE TOLD, SO SHE SAID, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? AND I TOLD HER AND SHE SAID, OH, AND, AND DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR YOU? I SAID, WELL, PEOPLE WORK WITH ME, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT FOR ME. OH. SO THEN SHE LEAVES AND SHE MEETS THIS GUY IN THE PARKING LOT AND SHE TELLS HIM, THERE'S THIS BLACK WOMAN THAT RUNS THE ARTS ACADEMY OF THE, AND HE SAID, AND I QUOTE, WE SHOW RISE AGAIN. WE SHOW RISE AGAIN. AND THE BACK OF MY HAIR STOOD UP AND I SAID, LITTLE TOWN OF SEDONA. I SAID, WOW. I SAID, OKAY. MM-HMM . AND SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ME, WITH GOD AND ALL THAT, AND HE SAYS, NO, DO NOT WORRY. AND SO I LET IT GO. BUT IT WAS THAT MOMENT THREE YEARS AGO THAT JOAN ASKED ME TO DO THIS SHOW. AND I DIDN'T PUT THE TWO AND TWO TOGETHER UNTIL LAST YEAR WHEN THAT HAPPENED. AND SO I NEED TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT'S HOW THIS DAYS CAME TO SAY, OKAY, I'M GONNA DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S STILL, WE'RE IN 2024. IF WE CANNOT GET PAST THE PAST AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PAST REPRESENTS FOR EVERYONE. 'CAUSE NOBODY IS EXEMPT. SLAVERY WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED. AND FOR MY PEOPLE, WE HAD TO RISE ABOVE IT IN ORDER TO SURVIVE IT. SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, WHY CAN'T OTHER PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO FEEL SECURE IN THEIR OWN BEING TO WHO THEY WERE BORN TO BE? NOBODY CHOOSE HOW YOU'RE BORN, BUT YOU DO GET TO CHOOSE HOW YOU BEHAVE AS AN ADULT. SO I THINK THAT IS THE UNDERLYING MOMENT OF DRIVING THESE DAYS AND HOW WE BEHAVE AS PEOPLE. SO YOU'VE GOT A GOOD MORGAN FREEMAN IDENTIFIED? I DO. I DO. UM, I, I HAD TO SWITCH UP BECAUSE THE ONE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT I WANTED ENDED UP MOVING BACK TO DETROIT. AND SO I FOUND THIS OTHER GENTLEMAN WHO'S DONE WORK FOR ME BEFORE, UM, IN BACK 2023, HE DID A HOUSE FOR THE WALLS. AND SO I READ HIM TWO WEEKS AGO AND THEY ALL MESHED BEAUTIFUL FREIGHT. GOOD. THEY ALL BEAUTIFUL. SO I'M HAPPY WITH THE PROJECT AND WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN TO WORK THE DETAILS ON LINES, SO WE'RE ALL READY TO GO. AND THIS IS GONNA BE AT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL? YES. AND YOU'RE GONNA SERVE HUSH PROPERTIES. I'M GOOD. FOR ME, IT'S GIVING PEOPLE THE HUMBLE EXPERIENCE OF EVERYTHING. BECAUSE NOW YOU GET TO, TO TASTE IT, YOU GET TO FEEL IT, YOU GET TO SEE IT, YOU GET TO HEAR IT. IT'S IMMERSIVE, TOTAL IMMERSION INTO THE SOUTHERN CULTURE. IT'S A UNIQUE SYSTEM WE HAVE HERE. I THINK. I THINK IT'S JUST A LIFE. THANK YOU. WELL, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN MEMPHIS, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FOOD . THAT'S THE ONE PART. SO, BUT I'M EXCITED BECAUSE IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIMELY AND THE SHOWS A CRUCIAL SHOW. IT'S GOT A GREAT MESSAGE. YEAH, IT DOES. AND THE TRUE MESSAGE IS THAT IN THE SOUTH THERE MORE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS. AND WHEN SHE SAYS, HULK, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE MY BEST FRIEND. MM-HMM. . AND THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THAT WHEN YOU CAN LOOK BEYOND WHAT SOMEONE LOOKS LIKE AND FIND THE COMMON ART PEOPLE. MM-HMM, . WE'RE ALL PEOPLE. EXACTLY. WE'RE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE. WE'RE ALL ONE PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT I DID. THAT'S RIGHT. ALL THE ONE PEOPLE WE'RE ALL ONE PEOPLE. I MEANT IT THAT WAY. YEAH. WE'RE ALL ONE PEOPLE. ALL WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT. WE CAN REALLY DO SOME AMAZING THINGS. [04:40:01] IS THAT AN EXPENSIVE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET RIGHTS TO, TO USE THAT? IT COST ME $800. OKAY. TO HAVE THE RIGHT, IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS I WOULD'VE THOUGHT. UM, ADHESIVE COST ME 1500, PARDON ME, ADHESIVE THAT I DID TO 1500. RIGHT. YEAH. AND I, IT WOULD'VE COST ME MORE, BUT I CHOSE NOT TO USE THEIR OH, I SEE. YEAH. I'M USING DIFFERENT MUSIC. YEAH. IT'S CHEAPER. UM, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE PACKAGING EVERYTHING TOGETHER NOW. SO IF YOU, UH, WANT TO DO A SHOW, IF THERE'S MUSIC, ALL THE SCRIPTS, AND IT COULD BE FOUR ACTORS, BUT YOU KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 10 SCRIPTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE CREATIVE CREW THAT ARE PART OF IT. SO NOW YOU'RE BUYING, I BOUGHT FOR ALMOST MEN, I BOUGHT 21 SCRIPTS. IT WAS REQUIRED, BUT THERE WERE ONLY FOUR ACTORS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE 21 THAT MAKE YOU BUY 21. IT'S THE END OF THE DAY. SO YOU HAVE TO PARDON ME. BUT AREN'T YOU THE ONLY ORGANIZATION? I MEAN, YOU ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT PRESENT LIVE PERFORMANCES IN THIS AREA. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND I JUST GOT AN OFFER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO DO STUFF HERE IN WEST SEDONA. GOOD. SO IT REQUIRED ME TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE. WELL, IN YOUR SPARE TIME, RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE SPARE TIME. I, I'VE LOST, UH, I DID LOSE MY, MY VICE PRESIDENT BACK EAST JUST RECENTLY A OVARIAN CANCER. SO I'VE GOTTA DO THAT NEXT WEEK. AND I JUST GOT DO, AND I LOST MY WORKING COLLEAGUE IN JANUARY. SO I TEACH FINANCE AND ANOTHER HALF OF MY BRAIN. YEAH. SO WE COULD CHAT ALL DAY. CAMILLA THAT WE HAVE A PHONE CALL WHERE YOU HAVE TO FIRE OUT. THANK YOU DARLING. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU GUYS. TAKE CARE. STAY COOL. 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE HOT. THANKS. WELCOME. OKAY, HERE'S A CIRCLE BACK. CIRCLE BACK AS ZAKI WOULD SAY. OKAY, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, ED, YOU'RE GONNA KICK US OFF HERE. UM, YOU READY? SURE. WHAT NUMBER WOULD IT, I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. OH, YOU MEAN THE, OKAY. THIS IS STEPS TO RECOVERY AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE SOME STEPS TO RECOVER HERE. THANK YOU FOR CALLING CONNECT WELLNESS CENTER. THIS IS TERRY. HOW MAY I HELP YOU? TERRY, THIS IS STEPHANIE GESTA. I'M WITH THE CITY OF SONSONA SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE AND WE ARE CALLING FOR NORA. NORA, UM, YES, SHE, SHE, I APOLOGIZE, SHE HANDED IT OFF TO ME TO TALK TO THE GRANT COMMITTEE, IF THAT'S OKAY. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME AGAIN? MY NAME IS TERRY. TERRY. OKAY. TERRY, I, YOU ARE ON SPEAKER WITH THE GROUP HERE AND WE HAVE FOUR MYSELF AND FOUR OTHER REVIEWERS. AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU SOME QUESTIONS AND I'M GOING TO LET OUR, UH, ONE REVIEWER, UH, ED SOUTHWELL START. SO I'M TURNING YOU OVER TO ED. ED, OKAY. SO KAREN, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ROLE THERE? MY ROLE, I WEAR MANY HATS HERE AT STEPS TO RECOVERY HOMES, UM, INCLUDING HR TRAINER, SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR, AND ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST. OKAY. SO THE, UM, APPLICATION INDICATED THAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE AFFECTING SIX, ABOUT SIX SEDONA RESIDENTS WITH THIS NEW TRAINING CERTIFICATE SLASH PROGRAM, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND COULD YOU, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT KIND OF CERTIFICATES AND TRAINING WOULD BE HAPPENING EXACTLY. ABSOLUTELY. SO OUR CLIENTS, WHEN THEY'RE IN OUR JOB DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, THEY GO THROUGH SEVERAL THINGS. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE [04:45:01] COME IN, UM, FOR THE RECOVERY PROCESS, THEY DON'T HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT A LOT OF MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, SOCIETY HAVE, LIKE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD OR THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR AN ACTIVE RESUME. SO WE START THEM OUT WITH ALL OF THOSE. UM, WE ALSO GO THROUGH WITH THEM WITH A MOCK INTERVIEW, AND THEY, THEY DO LIKE A COMMERCIAL AND THEY ARE, THEY GAIN CONFIDENCE IN ORDER TO GO FOR AN INTERVIEW BECAUSE GOING ON AN INTERVIEW ISN'T ALWAYS AN EASY THING. RIGHT? WE, WE UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT HOW'S THIS'S THIS NEW PROGRAM GONNA ACTUALLY WORK AND WHAT'S INVOLVED AND WHO DOES IT AND WHAT KIND OF CERTIFICATES SHOULD YOU EXPECT THEY WALK AWAY WITH? SO WE GEAR THEM TOWARDS A CAREER PATH THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN, AND WE OFFER THEM TRAINING, UH, SAFETY TRAINING, AND THEY DO GET A CERTIFICATE FOR THAT. UM, THEY ALSO GO ON FROM WHO, WHO DO YOU DO STEPS GIVE THEM THE CERTIFICATE OR DO THEY EARN IT FROM, YOU HAVE PI COLLEGE OR WHAT? WE USE A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY SAFETY TRAINING. MM-HMM, . AND THEY DO IT ONLINE AND IT'S SEVERAL COURSES. MM-HMM. . AND EACH COURSE THAT THEY COMPLETE, THEY GET A CERTIFICATE. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT, I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DETERMINE IS SAFETY, I MEAN, WHAT IS SAFETY LIKE, UH, IS THIS, IS THIS SAFETY GEARED TOWARD A PARTICULAR PROFESSION OR IS IT, IS IT GENERAL SAFETY OR IT'S GENERAL SAFETY? OH, LIKE IF YOU, OH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, AND YOU WERE JUST ABOUT READY TO DO IT. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE? UM, LIKE IF YOU WERE GOING INTO A RESTROOM TO CLEAN, WHAT ARE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS? WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO WEAR GLOVES WITH? WHAT'S THE PROPER WAY TO LIFT PACKAGES? UM, HOW YOU USE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER, WHAT IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER FOR? LIKE, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT GOES THROUGH ACTUALLY SEVERAL THINGS. IT'S NOT GEARED TOWARDS JUST JANITORIAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S ALSO HOW YOU LIFT THINGS AND YOU GOT SOME NICE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM OH, THANK YOU. UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WE, I KNOW AND LIKE, WHAT IS JIM LAWLER EXPECTING WHEN THIS PERSON SHOWS UP? WHAT KIND OF SKILLS WILL THEY HAVE? WHAT, WHAT'S HE EXPECTING THIS PERSON TO BE LIKE? WELL, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. UM, I DO WISH THAT QUENTIN, OUR JOB DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR WAS ABLE TO ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY FOR YOU. BUT, UM, WITH LAWLER CONSTRUCTION, HE'S EXPECTING SOMEBODY THAT IS AN ACTIVE TEAM MEMBER THAT KNOWS HOW TO TAKE, UM, DIRECTION FROM THE LEADERSHIP IN THE, THE COMPANY. AND SO WHAT KIND OF, I'M READING HIS LETTER NOW. I'M SORRY. SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SPECIFIC TRAINING IN THAT AREA FOR THIS PERSON OR NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION? YES. OKAY. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A ROOFER, UM, SOMEBODY IN OUR JOB DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, HE ACTUALLY OWNED HIS OWN ROOFING COMPANY. MM-HMM. . SO HE IS LEARNING OTHER SKILLS, LIKE HE KNOWS HOW TO DO A ROOF AND HE OWNS HIS OWN COMPANY, BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW COMPUTER SKILLS. SO HE'S GOING THROUGH THE COURSE TO LEARN COMPUTER SKILLS. SO IT'S GEARED TOWARDS EACH PERSON'S NEED. OKAY. IS, IS, HOW DO, SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PERSON WITH THE ROOFING COMPANY, HE'S A RECOVERING, UM, HE'S, HE'S IN RECOVERY. HE IS. OKAY. UH, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT THEY, THAT THESE ARE SEDONA RESIDENTS THAT YOU'LL BE TRAINING WITH THIS MONEY? SO WE HAVE, WE GOT A GRANT. IT WAS THE CDCG GRANT. RIGHT. TO PURCHASE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN SEDONA. OKAY. AND THIS WILL HELP INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PATH OF RECOVERY AND HAVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TO MAXIMIZE THE CLIENT'S SUCCESS RATE. 'CAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LIVE IN A SOBER ENVIRONMENT WHILE THEY'RE APPLYING THE SKILLS THAT THEY LEARNED IN OUR PROGRAM. AND AT THE SAME TIME BEING AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE WORKFORCE. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. [04:50:01] SO, SO AT AT THE END OF, UM, LAST YEAR YOU HAD $86,000 IN ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE. WHAT IS THAT? LET ME GO TO THAT PAGE. IT IS YOUR OVERALL BUDGET, NOT JUST THE PROJECT BUDGET. SO WE, WE DO APPLY FOR SEVERAL GRANTS TO HELP PEOPLE IN RECOVERY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, WE DID EVEN GET A GRANT TO HELP PURCHASE OUR BUILDING AND CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CLIENT THAT DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE, SO WE WANTED TO HELP THEM WITH THERAPY. SO THEY CONTINUE THE PATH OF RECOVERY AND SO WE UTILIZE THAT GRANT TO BE APPLIED FOR THEIR THERAPY. UM, WE ALSO HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN FOR OUR STRUCTURED SOBER LIVING HOUSING, UM, THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD THE INITIAL HOUSING FEES. SO THESE ARE GRANTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THAT YOU'RE AWAITING MONEY FOR THE I, THE ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE PART? YOU KNOW, I HAVE I DAM AND BROWNING WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT DATE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION THOUGH. WHO IS PROVIDING THE TRAINING? UM, IS IT LIKE ED WAS ASKING GABA PI COLLEGE OR ARE THESE PROGRAMS YOU DEVELOP? UM, WE UTILIZE DIFFERENT RESOURCES. SO ON THURSDAYS THERE'S A YALE CLASS THAT THEY TAKE AND IT'S HOW TO BE A HAPPIER PERSON THROUGHOUT LIFE. IT'S ACTUALLY A FREE CO, UM, COLLEGE COURSE AND EVERY THURSDAY THEY GO ON THERE. WE USE MY CAREER ADVISOR, WE USE TRU TRINITY.COM. UM, THEY SET UP A CAREER PERSONALITY PROFILE. THEY ALSO DO ON THE JOB TRAINING HERE AND LEARN DIFFERENT SKILLS. THEY WORK IN MIRACLES HAPPEN RESALE STORE, WE HAVE ONLINE SALES AND WE HAVE, UM, FACE-TO-FACE SALES. SO THEY LEARN HOW TO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE AND BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GAIN CONFIDENCE IN DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC. OKAY. OKAY. THEN, UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUDGET WORKSHEET. SO UNDER EXPENSES, YOU HAVE 70,000 FOR CLIENT TRAINING AND THEN YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 11,000 UNDER TRAVEL AND TRAINING. SO I WAS, UH, WOULD LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE 11,000 IN TRAVEL AND TRAINING IS. YOU THERE? ARE YOU STILL THERE? YEAH, YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT THE FORM. I APOLOGIZE, AMY. NO, NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE JUST WANNA BE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE YOU. THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. AND THAT WOULD BE A DAMIEN BROWNING QUESTION. UNFORTUNATELY. I CAN TEXT HIM AND SEE IF HE CAN GET BACK TO ME. I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU WRONG, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. NO, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY MISSING HERE IS SOME SPECIFICS AS TO HOW THIS $20,000 IS GONNA BE USED. I MEAN, IT'S, UH, FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO SEE IS WE NEED $20,000. AND THE $20,000 IS GONNA BE USED TO TRAIN SIX PEOPLE. UH, IN, IN THE, UM, TYPICALLY THE AREAS OF TRAINING WOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION WORK, HOSPITALITY WORK, UM, UH, RESTAURANT WORK, WHATEVER, WHEREVER TYPICALLY YOU TRAIN PEOPLE. AND AN EXAM, EXAMPLE CURRICULUM IN EACH AREA WOULD BE IF THEY'RE GOING TO TRAIN FOR CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL TRAIN THEM IN A, B, C, YOU KNOW, IN, UM, UH, UH, THE SAFETY, SAFETY WILL BE PROVIDED. THE SAFETY COURSE WOULD BE PROVIDED BY, BY THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION. AND AT THE END OF THESE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CLASSES THEY WOULD TAKE, THEY WOULD THEN BE QUALIFIED TO, TO GO WORK FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, A A CONSTRUCTION ORGANIZATION, UH, SUCH AS LAW OR PLUMBING, POLICE LETTER OF SUPPORT. BUT OUR PROBLEM IS, [04:55:01] UH, TERRY, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPECIFIC INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO LET OUR, UM, THOSE WHO'LL BE MAKING THE FINAL DECISIONS ON ALLOCATING THIS MONEY, UH, AS TO HOW THE MONEY'S GOING TO BE SPENT AND EXACTLY. AND WHAT SPECIFIC OUTCOMES WE CAN, CAN EXPECT. THAT'S FAIR. OKAY. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW AT THIS LATE TIME WHAT WE CAN REALLY DO ABOUT THAT, UM, IN ORDER TO KIND OF PATCH THIS HOLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TOMORROW. IS THERE ANY TIME TOMORROW THAT DAMIEN CAN SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS? IF DAMIEN CAN PROVIDE US WITH THE, THAT SPECIFIC TYPE OF INFORMATION AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEYOND OUR SCOPE TO HA I I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S BEYOND OUR SCOPE AS A COMMITTEE TO CRAFT THE TYPE OF, UM, DETAIL WE NEED IN ORDER TO, UM, UH, IN ORDER TO, TO, TO BRING THIS FORWARD. I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EXPRESSING MYSELF VERY WELL, YOU GUYS HELP ME. NO, THAT'S, YOU DID A GOOD JOB. UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO WRITE THE APPLICATION. NO. YES. AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST FOUND SOME DEFICIENT NOT DEFICIENCIES SO MUCH AS HOLES AND, UM, AND I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION FOR THEM. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY. WE UNDERSTAND. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, AND TO BE HON TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW. UM, I, WE, WE KIND OF, WE NEED IT IN WRITING. WE CANNOT GET IT VERBALLY. OKAY. DOES DAMIEN, IS, DOES DAMIEN HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO SUBMIT SOMETHING IN WRITING ALONG THOSE LINES BEFORE TOMORROW? OH, BEFORE TOMORROW? WELL, I KNOW TOMORROW HE COULD DO IT TOMORROW. HE COULD DO IT TOMORROW DURING THE DAY. UM, YEAH, HE'S TRAVELING RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY I AM FILLING IN. I APOLOGIZE. NO, YOU DON'T. IT'S NOT, PLEASE DON'T FEEL YOU HAVE TO APOLOGIZE, TERRY. IT'S, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BE SORRY ABOUT. OKAY. SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING THE 11,000 ENTAILS AND, AND WHAT TYPE OF, WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING THEY ARE GETTING IF THEY'RE GOING FOR CONSTRUCTION, HOSPITALITY, AND RESTAURANT WORK. NO, BUT ARE THOSE, FIRST OF ALL, I GAVE YOU EXAMPLES. ARE THOSE THE TYPES OF, ARE THOSE WHAT, OKAY, LET ME GIVE YOU, LET ME, LET ME DO IT THIS WAY. WHAT INDUSTRIES ARE YOU TRAINING FOR? ARE YOU PROVIDING TRAINING FOR? OKAY. WHAT INDUSTRIES? THERE YOU GO. OKAY. NUMBER TWO, I, ARE THEY GONNA GET CERTIFICATES? WELL, NO, LET'S, LET'S GO WITH NUMBER TWO WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A CURRICULUM FOR ONE OF THOSE INDUSTRIES. WHAT COURSES WILL THEY BE TAKING AND WHICH, HOW, WHO WILL BE ADMINISTERING THE INSTRUCTION IN THOSE COURSES SPECIFICALLY? IS IT JUST, IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF IT'S ONLINE FROM WHAT YOU SUMMARIZED EARLIER, WHAT I SUMMARIZED, CORRECT. YEAH. IS THAT CORRECT OR IS THERE NO, THEY DO GET A LOT OF ON JOB TRAINING. OKAY. I'M JUST NOT AS INVOLVED IN THE JOB DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF OUR PROGRAM. OKAY. SO WHOMEVER HAS TO PROVIDE US WITH THOSE, I'M GIVING YOU THE, THE ITEMS THAT WE CAN, THINGS THAT WE CAN USE IN ORDER TO TRY TO REACH A DECISION HERE. OKAY. OKAY. AND WHAT, SO THE INDUSTRIES GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF A CURRICULUM FOR ONE OF THOSE INDUSTRIES AND FOR EACH COURSE IN THAT CURRICULUM, WHERE WILL THEY RECEIVE THE TRAINING FOR THAT? AND WHAT EVALUATION TECHNIQUES ARE USED TO DETERMINE THAT SOMEONE IS THEN QUALIFIED TO MOVE ON TO A JOB? OKAY. AND WHAT TIME DO YOU NEED THIS BY? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE START DELIBERATIONS AT, UM, AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. OH, YOU NEED IT BY 8:00 AM WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN PROCEED PAST THAT. I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO WELL, I, NOW I'M APOLOGIZING, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NO, PLEASE DON'T. [05:00:02] I WILL REACH OUT TO HIM AND, AND WELL LET HIM LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU NEED IT BY 8:00 AM WELL, AND THE THING IS THAT I, WE'RE GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE, THE, OF THE, UH, TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. IF HE CAN'T, IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, FOR NEXT TIME, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING WE NEED TO SEE. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. WE NEED TO SPECIFIC CARE AHEAD. THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OH, I TERRY, THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU TERRY. AND WHAT, WHAT EMAIL IS HE GOING TO SEND THAT TO? UM, HE WOULD SEND IT TO, HANG ON THERESA. YEAH, THERE ARTHUR. UH, HANG ON. SHE JUST WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM. UH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET HER EMAIL REAL FAST. HERE. LEMME JUST LOOK AT, AT ONE OF MY EMAILS FROM HER. STAND FAST GIRL. OKAY, YOU READY? I AM T AS IN TANGO, ARTHUR, A-R-T-H-U-R AT SEDONA, A Z.GOV. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. YOU GOT IT. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. YOU TOO. BYE BYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU WANNA THE RECORDER? YEAH, I GOT IT. THANK YOU. NUMBERS ARE IN THE BRACKET. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.