[Small Grants Program Committee on June 6, 2024]
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THIS IS THE SECOND DAY OF THE SMALL GRANTS EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEETING, EVALUATING SMALL GRANTS.
PRESENT ARE STEPHANIE RE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
COMMITTEE MEMBER DEAN GAIN COMMITTEE MEMBER PATTY REKY.
CHRISTINE SIDWAY, COMMITTEE MEMBER.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UM, I THINK THE FIRST THING TO DO HERE IS KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON LINE THIS THING.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF, HANG ON A SECOND.
OH, THAT'S A REPORT THAT CAN ALL GET CLOSE.
REASON SCREEN CAN SEE BETTER ON THE OTHER SIDE HERE.
THAT SHOULD BE OFF THE SCREEN.
ARE WE ON? CAN YOU JUST ENLARGE EVERYTHING? NO, I, UM, WHAT I DID IS I GOT EVERYTHING ON THE SCREEN.
IT WAS OVER TO ONE SIDE AND I DON'T, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAME OVER HERE.
SELECT ALL THE COLUMNS AND THEN JUST HIT THE BUTTON.
WELL, THAT, I WAS GONNA TRY TO GET IT ALL SO WE COULD SEE EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.
YOU KNOW, LIKE FLATTEN EVERYTHING TO ONE LINE.
LIKE PUT ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE, UM, UH, CHANGE THE, UH, ROW WIDTH.
TO SEE IF I COULD FLATTEN THE SUCKER OUT.
LEMME GET SOMETHING SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T GET ALL ON.
IS THAT, CAN YOU SEE THAT DEAN? I I'M GONNA JUST SIT THERE.
THAT TAKES A, THAT TAKES SLIGHTLY OFF THE BOTTOM.
CAN YOU SEE THAT? YEAH, THAT HELPS.
YEAH, THAT'S BARELY OFF THE BOTTOM.
AND IF I TAKE OUT SOME OF THESE BLANK ROWS, WE'LL GET IT ALL ON ONE SCREEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS.
LET ME GET RID OF SOME OF THESE ROWS HERE.
WE CAN STILL SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT MAY STILL BE NEXT TO CHRISTINA.
IT MIGHT HELP IF WE STARTED WITH OTHER THAT'S FINE.
WE, I CAN SWITCH ALL THIS AROUND.
THAT'S WHY I JUST NO, WE START THERE.
I THEN WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE'VE GOT.
FOR, LET ME JUST, UH, LET ME JUST GET THIS THING UP SO WE CAN, I CAN WORK WITH IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
LET'S GET THIS BACK TO THE TOP.
TAKE THIS UP EVEN A LITTLE FURTHER NOW SO WE CAN GET IT FUNCTIONAL.
NOW WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SOMETHING HERE.
ALRIGHT, SO IF, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO MOVE, WHATEVER ELSE.
ALL I DID WAS JUST TAKE A WHACK AT THIS.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN ARTS AND SOCIAL
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THAT, UM, THESE NUMBERS OVER HERE ARE IRRELEVANT.UM, THIS IS HOW I SPLIT 'EM OUT.
SO WHAT DO WE WANT? DO WE WANNA MOVE ANYTHING? OKAY.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE THIS AS THE WAY I, THE WAY I HAVE IT PARSED OUT AND WE CAN JUST CHANGE IT.
'CAUSE I CAN TAKE STUFF OUT OF HERE AND PUT IT IN HERE.
WE CAN MOVE IT ALL AROUND AND THESE NUMBERS WILL DYNAMICALLY CHANGE.
AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, UM, PUT CHANGE THE CELL FORMATTING ON THIS SO IT HIGHLIGHTS IT.
SO RIGHT NOW UNDER ARTS, I'VE GOT 2 48 OTHER 26 AND 2 61 UNDER SOCIAL.
SO IF WE, IF YOU WANNA MOVE ANY OF THESE AROUND, LET'S START WITH THAT AND THEN WE CAN START LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO, UH, BUT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, SO WE HAVE 40% FOR ARTS, 40% FOR HUMAN SERVICES, 20% WAS OUR DISCRETION.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S 1 40 70 AND ONE 40.
'CAUSE WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT IT, IT WAS LIKE IT'S ART OR, OR SOCIAL SERVICES.
AND THEN IF WE, WE HAVE 20% OF THE MONEY WE CAN GIVE TO WHICHEVER ORGANIZATION.
AND THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO LOOK AT IT TOO.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS TAKE, IS TAKE OTHER, WELL, I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS DID.
I THINK THE TERM WAS AT LEAST 40% FOR ARTS.
BECAUSE OUR DISCRETION IS THE OTHER.
SO WE CAN TAKE ANY OF THIS AND MOVE IT EITHER WAY.
I MEAN THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO LOOK AT IT TOO.
THAT WHAT WE CAN DO IS MOVE THESE INTO ARTS AND SOCIAL AND WORK WITH THE BOTTOM RATHER THAN HAVING THE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
HOW DID YOU GUYS WORK IT? THE WAY I THOUGHT OF DOING IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO, SHOULD WE JUST TALK THROUGH THIS? IF WE DO OTHER FIRST WE EVEN HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER.
WELL, WHAT SHE'S SAYING, SO THEN THERE ISN'T ANOTHER, SO I KNOW.
SO THEN WE WORK ON WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT TO.
WE FIGURED WE KEEP LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM NUMBER AND UM, OR THE, THE 40% NUMBER.
IT MAY END UP TO BE 48 IN ONE CATEGORY.
SO I DON'T SEE REASON TO MOVE OTHER INTO OTHER CATEGORIES IS SAVE CO IN THE RIGHT ONE.
WELL, WE CAN MOVE THESE AROUND.
UM, YOU, WE CAN MOVE SAVE CO UP OR DOWN OR LEAVE IT OR WHATEVER YOU, THE ONLY THING IT IMPACTS IS RANKING.
IT'S LIKE IN THAT LITTLE GROUP OF OTHER MM-HMM.
THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE DIFFERENT IN MY HEAD IS THE PARAL PLAYERS I HAD WITH ARTS AS I'M LOOKING AT IT.
HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? OH, I HAD THEM WITH ARTS.
IT WAS, IT WAS, IT COULD GO INTO EITHER ONE.
THE ONLY REASON I PUT 'EM IN ART WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT LESS PEOPLE IN ART.
THE HUMAN SERVICES WAS MUCH BIGGER.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, STEPHANIE? WHAT DO YOU THINK, STEPHANIE? YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, HOWEVER WE START THIS.
SO WHERE ARE WE NOW IN THE DISCUSSION? ARE HAVE, ARE WE AGREEING TO LEAVE OTHER WHERE IT IS AND PUT AND THEN SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LEFT OVER AND THEN MOVE IT AROUND? JUST OTHER, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
LET, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RANKING SITUATION.
SHOULD ARTS BE COMPETING WITH ARTS? YES.
SHOULD SOCIAL SERVICES BE COMPETING WITH SOCIAL SERVICES? YES.
SHOULD ANYTHING THAT THAT DOESN'T FIT EITHER CATEGORY BE COMPETING AMONGST ITSELF? YES.
BECAUSE I SAY THIS IS RE I THINK IT'S RELATIVE.
SO I THINK THE OTHER CATEGORY SHOULD REMAIN.
NOW LET'S, SO STARTING WITH THE OTHER CATEGORY, IS THERE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW IN THE OTHER CATEGORY THAT DEFINITIVELY BELONGS IN ARTS OR SOCIAL?
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THAT WE, WELL, THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY IS A FESTIVAL.AND WHAT WE NORMALLY FUND IS THAT COMMUNITY THING WHERE THEY'RE SELLING, UH, HUMMINGBIRD THEMED ITEMS. YEAH.
WHICH KIND OF GOES WITH THE ART FESTIVAL THAT HAD, THAT'S AT THE SCHOOL WHERE THEY'RE SELLING CRAFT PRODUCTS AND THINGS.
SO THE HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL SHOULD COMPETE WITH THE ARTS.
I'D LEAVE IT IN ANOTHER BECAUSE IT'S A FESTIVAL ABOUT HUMMINGBIRDS, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT'S ART, BUT, BUT THE PART THAT WE ARE FUNDING IS NOT THE SPEAKERS AND THE TOURS AND THE LECTURES.
IT'S, IT'S THE LITTLE, UM, MARKETPLACE.
BUT THE WHOLE GROUPING OF OTHER HAS THE LOWEST SCORES, COMBINED SCORES.
SO IT GOES ALONG WITH, UM, WELL LET'S LOOK AT THE OTHER ARTS, BECAUSE THE SEDONA ART CENTER DOES HAVE A, A RETAIL COMPONENT.
RED ROCK'S MUSIC FESTIVAL SELLS TICKETS, UM, FOR AN EVENT.
BUT IT'S NOT RETAIL ITEMS. ARTS ACADEMY, AGAIN, TICKETS.
THERE ARE NO OTHER RETAIL COMPONENTS IN THE ARTS AREA.
SO IF WE'RE DISCUSSING RETAIL, I THINK RETAIL SHOULD BE UNDER OTHER, PERSONALLY.
ALRIGHT, SO LET, DOES, DOES THE SEDONA BRIDGE CLUB DEFINITIVELY BELONG UNDER OTHER? YES.
IF THE HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVALS THERE TOO.
KKSB IS THE, UH, GARDEN THING.
AND THAT'S ON THEIR GARDEN, ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER EXPERIENCE.
HUMMINGBIRD, WE ALREADY AGREED TO.
SO IS SAB CO SOCIAL OR IS IT OTHER? IT'S DEFINITELY NOT OURS.
IT IS THE HIGHEST IN THE OTHER.
I MEAN, I, IT'S THE ONE I FEEL MOST STRONGLY ABOUT AFTER LISTENING TO EVERYONE.
WE CAN'T RIG THE, WE CAN'T R THE JURY THOUGH.
SO IF, IF IT IS AN ART, IT'S AN ART.
IF IT'S A SOCIAL, IT'S A SOCIAL.
IF IT'S AN OTHER, IT'S AN OTHER.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING ANYBODY ANY CHARITABLE FOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING ANY HUMAN NEED.
UM, OKAY, SO NOW LET'S LOOK AT, UM, LET'S LOOK AT THE ARTS AND BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY, EVERY, EVERYTHING IN THE ARTS IS ART.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE SOCIAL SERVICES AND SEE IF ANYTHING IN SOCIAL SERVICES NEEDS TO BE MOVED TO OTHER OR ARTS DEAL.
BAG BRIGADE IS PERFORMANCE ARTS.
'CAUSE IT WAS ALL PERFORMANCE STUFF.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE SOCIAL SERVICES.
THAT IS THE FOOD, THE FOOD STUFF.
NOW, IS THAT, UM, IS THAT A SOCIAL SERVICE OR IS IT ANOTHER? I THINK IT COULD BE EITHER.
ISSA, DO WE HAVE A MOUSE FOR THIS THING? I HATE THESE.
I'M JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK HERE, BUT I GOTTA CATCH UP.
IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE ME A WHILE TO START
UM, AND I'LL CHANGE THIS TO OTHER IN CASE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THAT.
NOW IT'S SEDONA MOUNTAIN BAT CLUB.
I STUCK THAT IN SOCIAL BECAUSE IT IS YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
SAILFISH IS YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THAT COULD BE A, THAT COULD BE ANOTHER.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, THAT'S A
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24.8.WELL, WE WILL INSERT THAT HERE.
THAT'S BARE BES, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY ANOTHER, I MUST BEEN TIRED ON THAT ONE.
UM, 1501 IS SOCIAL SERVICES BECAUSE ALSO, UM, CANCER HEALTH RELATED, UH, CANCER HEALTH GARDEN.
GARDENS IS, GARDENS IS THE WILDCAT RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL? YEAH.
THAT'S HUMAN SERVICES FOR SURE.
VINCENTS, OBVIOUSLY HUMAN SERVICES.
THERE'S, THERE'S OUR IS THIS ART OR IS THIS SOCIAL? WELL, IT'S A LITTLE OF BOTH, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE, THEIR THEATER THING CERTAINLY TO ME IS ART.
BUT IT'S ALSO, IT'S WORKING WITH KIDS ALL THE TIME.
DO WE PUT IT IN OTHER, I'D LEAVE IT OTHER SOCIAL ACTUALLY.
WOULD YOU? YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY DO AFTER SCHOOL STUFF, RIGHT? SO DOES, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING MONEY FOR? FOR BOTH.
AND THE REASON I WOULD SAY SOCIAL SERVICES IS THAT THE, THE PRIMARY MISSION IS TO ENGAGE KIDS AND BRING THEM OUT.
IT IS, IT'S NOT CREATING AN ART EXPERIENCE.
SECONDARY TO THE, TO THE EMOTIONAL COMPONENT.
THAT'S DEFINITELY SOCIAL OR THAT OTHER, THAT'S SOCIAL SERVICES.
SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS, RIGHT? YES.
SO NOW WE GOTTA START PAIRING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SORTED WITHIN THEIR CATEGORIES.
SO IF WE START WORKING ON THE OTHER I WOULD AGREE.
'CAUSE THEN THAT WAY WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LEFT OVER THAT WE CAN PUT IN EITHER PLACE.
WELL, QUESTION BEFORE WE START, YOU DIDN'T HEAR, I'M ASSUMING YOU DID NOT HEAR FROM, UM, STEPS TO RECOVER.
NO, I, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING.
I DON'T THINK THERESA'S GOTTEN ANYTHING.
AND LAST NIGHT ALL I DID WAS JUST GO BY THE MATRIX NUMBERS.
UM, I HAVE A CALL IN TO JENNIFER PERRY, WHICH I MENTIONED, AND I THINK, UM, WE'LL DO SOCIAL LAST.
SO WE'LL GIVE IT, WE'LL GIVE THAT SOME TIME.
THEREA THERESA HAS SAID DEFINITIVELY THAT THE FEELING IS THAT IF THE ORGANIZATION DOES NOT HAVE IT DUCKS IN A ROW, THEN WE, UM, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT.
AND MY ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT ON THAT ORGANIZATION IS, IS PER PERCEPTIVE, PERCEIVED AS STRONG? HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IS THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY FEEL EMPATHY TOWARD THE PROBLEM AND WANNA SUPPORT AN ORGANIZATION REGARDLESS OF ITS ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY TO DO THAT? SO THEY SUPPORT IT.
UM, UH, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE SEEN AS, WELL, I GUESS, I GUESS THE, THE POLITICAL TERM IS VIRTUE SIGNALING
SO IS IT VIRTUE SIGNALING OR IS IT, IS IT LEGITIMATE? AND I JUST THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE, I WOULDN'T CALL IT VIRTUE SIGNALING BECAUSE I THINK MOST PEOPLE FEEL THAT IT IS DEFINITELY A WORTHY CAUSE AS I DO.
I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM, BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THE INTERNAL, THE INTERNAL ORGANIZATIONAL, UM, MM-HMM.
THAT BEING SAID, WE, I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND I BUGGED THERE ON MY WAY HOME LAST NIGHT.
UH, WE COULD, WITH SCO, UH, SCO, WE ENDED UP, UH, GIVING MONEY TO LAST OR YEAR BEFORE? LAST YEAR.
AND THEN IT, UH, THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION'S, UH, CAPACITY.
SO THE CITY HAD, UH, US AUDIT IT AND THEY FAILED THE AUDIT.
UH, THEREFORE THEY ARE NO LONGER, UM, UH, ABLE TO SUBMIT, UM, REQUEST TO REQUEST MONEY FROM THE CITY.
WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD GIVE THEM AN AWARD AND JUST THINK ABOUT THIS.
WE COULD GIVE THEM AN AWARD AND NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT GIVING THEM AN AUDIT AND THEN AUDIT THEM AND SEE HOW THEY'RE SPENDING, HOW THEY'RE SPENDING THE MONEY.
BECAUSE WITH THE, WITH THE SCO AUDIT, WHAT
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I DID IS I WENT IN AND I SAID, OKAY, SHOW YOU MEANT SCO.YOU DON'T MEAN SCO I DON'T MEAN, I'M SO SORRY.
YOU'RE TALKING THE HOMELESS SAHA.
UH, SO I LOOKED AT SA AND I SAID, GIVE US ALL THE RECEIPTS.
AND ACTUALLY THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE RECEIPTS FOR THE EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND A LITTLE BIT AND MORE FOR THE REPAIR OF THEIR VAN AND THE HOTEL STAYS.
BUT WHAT KNOCKED THEM OUT OF THE RUNNING WAS WHEN WE CONTACTED THE HOTELIERS AS TO THE CONDUCT OF THE, THE RESIDENTS WHO, OR THE GUESTS WHO WERE STAYING IN THE HOTEL.
IT WAS A COM, THEY WERE UNSUPERVISED.
THERE WERE FIGHTS, THERE WERE, UM, BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS. MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
UH, THE, AND, UH, SAHA HAD INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE, THE STAY THE GUEST STAYS WERE IN FACT SUPERVISED.
AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON TO A ROOM.
THEY LEFT THE ROOM CLEAN AND NEAT.
AND THERE WERE NEVER ANY PROBLEMS. WELL, THAT WAS DEBUNKED BY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE THREE HOTEL, THREE HOTELS THAT THEY USED.
SO DO WE USE THE SAME STRATEGY? IF WE AWARD, THEN WE AUDIT.
GIVE US THE RECEIPTS FOR ALL OF YOUR TRAINING PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON EACH CLIENT AND THE OUTCOMES OF EACH ONE OF THOSE CLIENTS.
WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THEIR NAMES.
WHICH PROGRAM WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT? NOW? I'M TALKING ABOUT NOW STEPS TO RECOVERY, STEPS, THE TRAINING.
CAN WE JUST EXPLORE THAT A MINUTE? DON'T I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE TOGETHER ENOUGH.
I MEAN, APPARENTLY IT'S A NEW PROGRAM, BUT THEN MAYBE IT'S NOT.
AND YOU KNOW HOW THEY, I MEAN, THERE'S TOO MANY QUESTIONS.
I I WOULD TEND TO, IF WE HEAR NOTHING MORE FROM THAN WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT.
THIS VERY MINUTE, I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S NOT WELL ENOUGH DOCUMENTED PUT TOGETHER FOR IT TO BE A BELIEVABLE PROGRAM.
WELL, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN SAW BECAUSE, UM, THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A, A GOOD PROPOSAL.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND WE KNOW THE MONEY.
THE PROBLEM IS WE, THEY DIDN'T REALLY DOING WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH IT, THEY OUTCOMES.
WE KEPT POKING AT ARE THEY GETTING CERTIFICATES IN PLUMBING AND WHATNOT? WHO'S TEACHING? WHO TEACHING THEM? THAT WAS LIKE, NO.
APPARENTLY THEY HAVE A WHO? DAMIAN, SOMEBODY, A DIRECTOR OF I KNOW YOU DO.
THERE WAS A TITLE ONE JOB DEVELOPMENT OR, SO JOB DEVELOPMENT, HE COMES TO YOUR SESSION.
WHAT WE GOT FROM THE LADY WHO WAS ON THE PHONE WAS THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT SOFT SKILLS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE.
RIGHT? LIKE HOW TO DRESS, HOW TO DO AN INTERVIEW, INTERVIEW THAT.
SO I, AND THEN A BUNCH OF SOFT, UH, SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE DONE THROUGH.
AND DRIVES ME THE SAFETY THING.
MOST COMPANIES REQUIRE THEIR EMPLOYEES TO DO THAT ANYWAY, JUST FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES.
SO LET'S PAUSE THIS DISCUSSION FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK MY EMAIL.
OH, YOU HAVE, I HAVE THREE DOCUMENTS FROM DAMIAN UP AND THE OTHER ONE IS THAT THE ONE WE WANTED TO GIVE THE FUNDS? SO IF IT'S TOO COLD OUTSIDE PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES? YES.
YEAH, I READ ABOUT THAT IN THE RED ROCK NEWS TOO, I THINK.
WELL, THEY DID A, THEY DID AN ARTICLE, UH, WITH LORI SAYING THAT IT WASN'T HERE.
THAT, THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED WAS INCORRECT.
BUT THE CITY PICKED UP THE CODE BLUE PROGRAM, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY DID.
I GIVE, THEY HAVE GOT LIKE ALMOST $30,000 CASE OR SOMETHING.
SO WE HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE.
PULLED UP FOR THE YOU'RE GONNA HERE.
NO, I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO TRIP.
IT'S PRACTICALLY TRYING TO CATCH UP.
HOW, HOW LONG ARE THEY? COULD BE.
YEAH, YOU CAN, I THINK YOU CAN READ THROUGH THEM HERE.
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YOU, IF YOU LOOK, I'VE GOT ONE, TWO, AND THREE.SO WE'LL START WITH THE ONE HERE.
I WONDER IF WE SHOULD DROP THE BLINDS.
WE DROP, THE BLINDS ARE CLOSED.
TURN THE LIGHTS OFF THE LIGHTS.
IT IS REALLY THE, THE FRENCH DOOR IS, I CAN SEE CLEARLY
THAT BIKE IS, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE LIGHTS.
IT'S, I CAN SEE ALL THE CARS AND STUFF REFLECTING ON THE OKAY.
OH, THEY'RE KIND OF TALLER CONTROL.
IF THERE'S NO JUMP UP THERE AND PULL IT.
I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY SELL THE PROBLEM.
THERE'S JUST PULL THE, THOSE MOVABLE.
YOU COULD LIFT THEM AND JUST PULL THE BOTTOM
WELL, THAT'S WHY ED IS WITH US
YESTERDAY DURING THE INTERVIEWS, I WAS DESPERATE TO TRY TO PUT THEIR HEADS TO BLOCK THE CARS THAT WERE REFLECTING IN MY FACE
UM, IF YOU COULD READ, JUST GO AHEAD AND READ AND LET US KNOW.
I'M THROUGH THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
WOULD YOU RATHER A REFLECTION ON THIS? NO, I DON'T WASTE THE RESOURCES.
I HAVE NO REFLECTION OVER HERE ON THIS ONE.
SO WHAT IT IS, IT IS PEER, IT'S PEER INSTRUCTION, PEER COUNSELING.
SO THE ONLY THING I SEE THERE THAT'S GEARED TOWARDS SPECIFIC SKILLS IS THE OJT.
AND, AND IF IT'S PROVIDED BY STEPS TO RECOVERY, THEN IT'S NOT THE SPECIFIC AT ALL.
UH, GO BACK UP TO THE TOP THOUGH FOR A SECOND.
BECAUSE IN, THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY ARE TRYING TO TRAIN PEOPLE FOR A PARTICULAR JOB.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM OVERARCHING PERSONAL SKILLS TO BE ABLE TO GO AND FUNCTION IN AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION.
AND THE SKILL SETS NECESSARY TO DO THAT ARE NOT HOW TO HAMMER HOW TO FRAME A HOUSE.
SO IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC JOB SKILL.
BEING ABLE TO GO IN AND FUNCTION IN AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION AND RECEIVE ON THE JOB TRAINING FROM THE EMPLOYER.
SO THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME.
SO THE, DOES THE CURRICULUM THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THE AVAILABLE, THE TRAINING, WHAT ARE THEY TAKING AND WHO IS PROVIDING IT? DOES THAT TRAINING SUPPORT THEIR MISSION? UM, THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT, YES.
BUT I WISH WE'D THOUGHT OF THIS QUESTION YESTERDAY, BUT WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING? THIS IS SUPPOSEDLY A NEW PROGRAM IN JOB PREPAREDNESS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US MONEY FOR, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
OR ARE THEY JUST DESCRIBING THE SAME THING IN A DIFFERENT WAY? WELL, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHICH IS FINE, THEY'RE ASKING, THEY'RE ASKING A CITY TO HELP SUPPORT A SPECIFIC PART OF THEIR PROGRAM, WHICH IS FINE.
SO THEY'RE PART OF THEIR MISSION.
ONE ELEMENT, ONE PROGRAM ELEMENT OF THEIR MISSION IS TRAINING.
THEY'RE ASKING US TO SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM ELEMENT LEGITIMATE.
AND, UM, IF YOU CAN GO BACK UP FOR A SECOND.
UH, I'M NOT, I MEAN, WE CAN, IF WE, IF WE FEEL WE NEED TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER INTO THIS, THE, THE ONE I DO RECOGNIZE IS THIS DEL TERRY.
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UM, SHE IS, UM, SHE'S BEEN IN THE AREA FOR A LONG TIME.SHE LIVES UP HERE IN THUNDER MOUNTAIN.
HER, HER PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IS IN, UH, UM, JOB, UM, JOB ETIQUETTE, ETIQUETTE, YOU KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE PHONE.
AND SHE IS ONE TOUGH COOKIE MAN.
SHE GETS UP THERE AND SHE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS.
UM, SO IF, IF ELL IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, THE LEVEL OF THESE OTHER, UH, ELEMENTS THAN I'M ON BOARD.
I JUST HAD SUCH A DIFFERENT IMPRESSION FROM THE, THE WRITTEN YES.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE CURRICULUM PART OF IT.
IS CONNECT WELLNESS THEIR BUILDING? I BELIEVE CONNECT WELLNESS IS THEIRS.
I THINK THAT'S THEIR, UM, DBA OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
WHAT ARE THE EVALUATIONS IN PLACE OF DECLINE IS READY TO OBTAIN A JOB.
WELL THIS IS ALL GOOD INFORMATION.
THAT TRAINING SEEMS A LITTLE OUT OF LINE WITH WHAT THEY'RE ASKING,
WELL, IF WE APPLY THE SAME RULES WE DID TO, UH, SEARCH AND RESCUE SEARCH AND RESCUE, WE JUST NEED TO ASK THEM HOW, HOW THEIR STAFF TURNOVER IS, ARE THESE PEOPLE GONNA BE THERE FOR THE LONG TERM? RIGHT.
BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED UNUSUAL TRAUMA AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
NOT NECESSARILY HOW TO MOVE FROM ADDICTION TO A JOB.
THAT'S THE TRAINING FOR THE STAFF, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
BUT EVEN SO TO, TO GET THEM TO THAT POINT.
SO WE'RE PROVIDING TRAINING, BUT I THINK THE WHOLE PROGRAM, UH, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS PROBABLY A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE MONEY THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
SO, UM, THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM THAT DON'T INVOLVE STAFF TRAINING.
WHAT WE WOULD FUND THEM MAY BE SUFFICIENT TO COVER THOSE AND WE CAN JUST, WE CAN JUST NOT DEAL WITH THE WHOLE STAFF TRAINING ISSUE AT ALL.
SO LET'S GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR NUMBERS ON THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN, IF, IF IF THE 20,000 OR WHATEVER THEY'RE ASKING FOR CAN, CAN BE USED TO SERVICE THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE PROGRAM UHHUH.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
THIS IS THE CURRICULUM SCHEDULE.
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OKAY.SO LET'S GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT STAFF TRAINING COMPONENT.
AND IF WE CAN'T, THEN UM, WE'LL NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER PHONE CALL AND TALK TO THEM FURTHER.
SO THAT $86,000 THAT THEY'RE OWED IS, IS PROBABLY OUTSTANDING.
INSURANCE PAYMENTS OR GRANTS CLINIC COMING IN? UM, YEAH, THOSE WOULD USUALLY BE UNDER, UM, AN ASSET CATEGORY, NON RECEIVABLES.
IF THEY BILL, IF THEY'VE ALREADY BILLED FOR IT.
IF THEY'RE RECEIVING GRANT MONEY AFTER BILLING FOR IT, IT WOULD BE A RECEIVABLE.
BUT OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE A INSURANCE.
'CAUSE HAVING WORKED IN HEALTHCARE, WELL WE KNOW THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES DON'T ALWAYS PAY ON TIME.
YOU HAVE A MASK NOW IF YOU WANT IT.
IT MAY, STEPHANIE, IT MAY BE THAT THE MOUSE PLUGIN IS THE SAME AS YOUR YEAH, WELL IN THAT CASE I'LL JUST LIVE WITH THE PAD.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY THE ONE ONE PORT.
WE WILL, I WILL GET BETTER WITH IT.
I'M JUST LEANING WHEN IT COMES TO ADAPTATION HERE.
SO DO WE WANT TO DO THE OTHER? IS THAT YEAH, ARE WE, OKAY.
SO OUR, OUR PROCESS NOW IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER CATEGORY AND UM, PARSE IT OUT.
SO ON YOUR OTHER, I'VE GOT IT FILTERED.
I TAKE IT THE AVERAGE SCORE IS OUR FINAL SCORE.
SAFCO WAS FIRST, THEN THE VERDE VALLEY CYCLIST KEEPS IT ON A BEAUTIFUL HUMMINGBIRDS, REPTILES.
I JUST DID IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
OH, YOU WANT LOIS TO HIGHEST? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
SHE'S MAKING IT THE WAY I, I'M REVERSING IT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S LOOK AT THAT WAY.
UM, SORRY, I'M GONNA HELP YOU.
NO, IT'S SORTING THE ENTIRE SHEET.
SO BRIDGE CLUB UP TO, SO YOU WANNA START WITH THE LOW HANGING FRUIT? WELL, FIRST TWO OF THOSE FOLKS HAD TRAVEL TRAINING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WAS INELIGIBLE.
SO WE HAVE TO DEEM THAT WHAT THEY ARE USING IT FOR IS ELIGIBLE.
SO THE CYCLISTS ARE USING GAS TO SERVICE BELL BOXES.
AND THE HUMMINGBIRD IS PAYING FOR THE TRAVEL FOR PRESENTERS.
DO WE AGREE THAT'S YEAH, IT'S OKAY.
IF WE DID THAT, WE'D BE TAKING YEAH, YOU TAKE EVERY, EVERYBODY OKAY.
SO EVERYTHING IS ELIGIBLE HERE.
SO IN MY ESTIMATION, FOR 3,700 BUCKS, IT'S LIKE A, THEY EITHER GET IT OR THEY DON'T.
IS IT THE NO, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT EVERY YEAR.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFCO? YEAH.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ONLY 37.
WHERE DO WE GO NEXT? WHAT ABOUT BARE BILLS? HUH? THAT'S DEFINITELY SCALABLE.
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SO HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THEIR REQUEST ALL, I MEAN, HOW, WHAT'S YOUR GUT TELL YOU ABOUT, DO YOU WANNA FUND IT ALL? UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THEIR PROGRAM, DO WE WANT TO TAKE 'EM BACK TO 'EM? WHAT'S YOUR FEELING ON IT? THEY'RE ASKING FOR 5,000 AND THAT'S FOR 10,000 BAIL.WELL, WE CAN GIVE THEM THEIR FULL AMOUNT AND THEN GO BACK WHEN WE SEE IF WE'VE OVERSPEND OUR BUDGET.
BECAUSE THEY'RE RANKED REALLY HIGH, SO, ALL RIGHT.
OH, I THINK WERE THEY SCALABLE? I THEY WERE LAST, LAST YEAR.
THEY ASKED FOR EIGHT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY AS WELL.
AND THIS IS STRICTLY FOR THEIR RETAIL PART.
I THINK IT'S FOR THE WHOLE, I THINK IT'S FOR THE WHOLE THING.
I THINK IT'S FOR FESTIVAL LAST YEAR WAS, LAST YEAR WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RETAIL PART, BUT I THINK THIS WAS MUCH MORE, AT LEAST THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY, THE PEOPLE COMING, THEIR DATA LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
WE'RE, UH, ANNUAL FOOT THIS MUCH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
UH, WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING ACTIVITIES IN ARE NO COST.
LET'S GO SPECIFICALLY TO THE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE MONEY PART.
SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THEIR, THEY'RE DOING A FREE DAY FOR KIDS AND OTHER STUFF FOR KIDS.
THE KIDS DAY IS A NEW FEATURE FOR THIS ONE.
WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO FUND THE FESTIVAL AND THE REST OF IT IS JUST DESCRIBING THE FESTIVAL.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL YOU ACCOMPLISH WITH THE CITY'S FUNDING? WITH THE CITY'S FUNDING? WE WILL PROVIDE, PRODUCE THE THREE DAYS SEDONA HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL.
THE FUNDING WILL BE KEY TO OUR EXPANDED KIDS DAY ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING THE EXTENDED VENUE, LIVE ANIMAL EXPERIENCES, A LOCAL DANCE PERFORMANCE, PAINTING AND CRAFT ACTIVITIES.
NON-PROFITS, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE CALLING IT KIDS STAYS.
THESE ARE ACTIVITIES ARE ALL AGES.
ALL AGES WILL ENJOY THE CITY'S FUNDING.
MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO RENT THE CENTRALLY LOCATED SEDONA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER FESTIVAL GOERS, ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL, COMFORTABLE INTERIOR AS WELL AS THE OUTSTANDING VIEWS OUTSIDE.
IN ADDITION, WE INSTALL FEEDERS AND FEED HUMMINGBIRDS ONSITE AT SPAC BEGINNING IN MAY TO BUILD UP A LARGE POPULATION FOR FESTIVAL GOERS TO ENJOY AND PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT THERE AT THE HUMMINGBIRD CENTRAL.
SO IT'S PRIMARILY FOR THAT SINGLE DAY, WE COULD TRY SIX MAYBE INSTEAD OF EIGHT.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR GUT TELLS YOU GROUP? YEAH, I'D GO WITH THAT.
AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK WHEN WE SEE WHERE WE ARE.
UM, KSB BOY, THEY, I LOVE KSB BUT THEY ARE REALLY LOOSEY GOOSEY ON THIS ONE.
THAT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A BIG COMMUNITY IMPACT, I'M AFRAID.
WE'VE GOT NO, WE HAVE NO METRICS.
NO, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE, I WOULD SAY PASS.
THEY'VE ALREADY ALREADY GOT ONE SIGN MADE, I GUESS, RIGHT? THEY DO.
THEY HAVE THE PLANT IDENTIFICATION SIGNS MADE.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE SWALE IN, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY DIDN'T WANT, THEY DON'T WANT MONEY FOR THE SWALE.
BUT I THINK THEY WANT A SWALE SIGN.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE SIGNS IS FOR A SWALE.
AND EACH SIGN IS $800 AS I RECALL, OR THEREABOUTS.
UM, UH, NONE OF THE OTHER EXHIBITS ARE IN.
UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER EXHIBITS ARE IN, UH, I DUNNO.
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I'D EITHER GO WITH HALF OR ZERO.UM, I GAVE IT THE LOWEST FOR THE METRICS.
I HAD A LITTLE ON METRICS AS WELL.
ODDLY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE, OR SHE COULDN'T, THE LADY COULDN'T EXPLAIN HOW MANY SPEAKER SERIES THERE WERE GOING TO BE.
'CAUSE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE INTEGRAL TO THEIR SPEAKER SERIES WHERE THEY WERE GONNA WALK 'EM THROUGH THE GARDEN AND HAVE THE SIGNS TO HELP.
REALLY? I HEARD IT DIFFERENTLY THAN I HEARD THAT THEY DO ALL EXCEPT THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
SO IT'S EVERY MONTH EXCEPT THE THREE IN THE SUMMER, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
BUT I MEANT THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THE SPEAKER SERIES WERE SUPPOSED TO WALK 'EM THROUGH, BUT SHE DIDN'T KNOW, OH, IF THEY REALLY WERE GONNA, WHAT WAS SCHEDULED.
OH, I, THE SPEAKER SERIES, WERE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON THE GARDEN BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER TOPICS THEY TALK ABOUT.
BUT EVERY, EVERYBODY, REGARDLESS OF WHICH TOPIC WAS GONNA GET A GARDEN TOUR.
HOW, AND MY ONLY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE IS, UM, THE SPEAKER SERIES ARE SOMETHING THAT THEY DO HAVE DONE EVERY WINTER.
SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM NOT DOING THAT.
I MEAN, I FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE SPEAKER SERIES HAPPENING THAN I DO ABOUT THE WISHFUL GARDEN THAT'S GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EDIBLE PLANTS AND THE NATIVE PLANTS AND THE OTHER PLANTS IN THERE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S THERE IS THE SWAY SOILS AND THE NATIVE PLANTS, THE EDIBLE PLANTS, THE UM, WHATEVER ELSE.
THE THIRD THING THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
THOSE ARE ALL LIKE, IN SOMEBODY'S DREAM, THERE'S NO PLAN.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE THAT THE, THE MONEY THEY'RE ASKING US FOR IS ABOUT ONE FIFTH OF THE TOTAL COST.
WELL, THEY HAD THE COST FOR THE DESIGNER AND THEY HAD THE COST FOR THE SIGNS.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY CLEAR.
THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED TO SOME SIGNS APPARENTLY.
BUT IF THEY ONLY HAVE ONE ELEMENT DONE, I CAN SEE THEN WE SHOULD FUND ONE SIGN.
LAST YEAR THEY REQUESTED 10, WE RECOMMEND FIVE.
WELL, THAT WAS A TOTAL DIFFERENT.
YEAH, THAT WAS, HOW ABOUT A GRAND? THAT'S FINE.
SO WHAT'S LEFT ARE, OR THE REP, THE NEWBIES.
THAT ONE TO ME IS THE WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW THOSE ANSWERS AREN'T THERE.
WHERE ARE YOU GONNA HAVE IT? WHEN WHEN'S IT GONNA BE? WELL AND WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WE GOT ZIP ON THAT.
THEN HOW COME THEY HAVE 23? YEAH.
WHY NOT THAT HIGH? THEY GIVE THEM, WELL, IT'S A LOT HIGHER THAN A LOT OF OTHERS I GAVE.
I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT UP THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
SO THE REST OF US, UH, RANKED IN HIGH.
I LIKE THE, I'LL TELL YOU WHY I RANKED HIM HIGH.
I THINK, I THINK HE'S GOT HIS ACT TOGETHER.
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
IT IS GOING TO BE, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A NEW AND INTERESTING COMMUNITY EVENT.
I THINK IT WILL BRING A LOT TO THE PARTY.
IF THEY, WHAT, WHAT'S THE EVENT? IT, THE EVENT IS UP AT POSSE GROUND AND THEY'RE GONNA BRING THE REPTILES AND THEY'RE GONNA BRING OTHER CONSERVATIONISTS.
UM, UH, IT'S A CONSERVATION EDUCATION RIGHT.
THEY'RE GONNA BRING OTHER CONSERVATIONISTS UP FROM OTHER AREAS.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE REPTILE OF THE REPTILES AND OTHER RESCUES, OTHER WILDLIFE RESCUES ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING THEIR EXHIBITS AND THEIR ANIMALS AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN TOWN.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE GIVEN PEOPLE ENOUGH ROPE TO HANG THEMSELVES OR DO A GOOD JOB.
AND IF WE GIVE THEM MONEY TO PUT THE EVENT ON AND THEY BLOW IT, DON'T ASK US AGAIN.
IF THEY, IF THEY DON'T BLOW IT AND THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH EVERYTHING THEY'RE GONNA SAY, BECAUSE THE ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY SEEMED GOOD.
I THINK I GAVE THEM A HIGHEST SCORE WITH THAT.
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HAD HIS ACT TOGETHER.
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPERATING.
THIS IS NOT PIE IN THE SKY STUFF.
ALL THIS IS, ARE THE, THE ORGANIZATIONS HE'S GONNA BE USING EXIST AND THE EVENT THAT HE'S GONNA BE PUTTING ON HAS BEEN PUT ON ELSEWHERE.
SO ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS DUPLICATE SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING ELSEWHERE SUCCESSFULLY AND BRING IT HERE.
I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT DESERVES A CHANCE.
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HAS THE CAPACITY TO DO IT.SO IF WE SAY, WELCOME, WELCOME.
HE DIDN'T HAVE, HE DIDN'T HAVE POSSE GROUNDS OR A DATE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING HE DIDN'T HAVE, RIGHT? NO, BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AT ALL.
BUT HE HAD SOME, HE SAYS, I GOT SOME OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT YEAH.
HIS OTHER THOUGHTS WEREN'T SPECIFIED WHO THE PARTNERS WOULD BE IN THIS.
HE HAD, HE SAID THE OTHER WILDLIFE RESCUES IN THE AREA, PLUS THE CONSERVATION PEOPLE DOWN IN, UM, HE HAD A, HE HAD HIS NETWORK DOWN IN, UM, AND WE'D CALL HIM AND ASK HIM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, WHO WILL YOU INVITE TO THIS EVENT? AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD COME UP WITH A LIST.
I IT SOUNDS MORE AND MORE REASONABLE.
AND ALREADY THEY'VE REACHED A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE PER YEAR.
I GAVE THEM A VERY HIGH SCORE.
THE, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WAS KIND OF OFFPUTTING WAS THAT HE DID NOT ALREADY HAVE A LOCATION.
THAT, THAT WAS OFF PUTTING TO ME.
BUT THE REST OF IT, I, I RANKED HIM FAIRLY HIGH.
AND IF IT DOESN'T TAKE PLACE, IT COMES BACK.
IF HE CAN'T FIND A LOCATION, WE GET THE MONEY BACK.
I MEAN, SINCE HE'S NEW, WE CAN GIVE HIM LIKE 80% OR SO AND OR ALL OF IT.
I'D GIVE HIM ALL OF IT AND SEE WHERE IT'S ONLY 6,000.
I'D GIVE HIM ALL OF IT AND SEE WHAT HE DOES.
I MEAN, I THINK HE'S WELL WORTH IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE SOME, IT IS NOT AS IF WE'RE DEALING WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS WHO COME IN AND SAY, WELL, WE JUST HAVE THIS IDEA AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE, BUT WE THINK IT'S GONNA DO THIS AND WE DON'T.
AND WE'VE RUN INTO THOSE IN THE PAST, HAVEN'T WE? OH YEAH.
THEY WANT $15,000 TO REFRIGERATE THIS SEED PRODUCE THING CALLED IT A HOUSE SEED HOUSE.
BUT THEY KEPT CALLING IT THE SEED HOUSE.
BUT ACTUALLY THEY'RE STORING PRODUCE.
THEY SHOULD STRESSED THAT REALLY STRESS THE PRODUCE PART RATHER THAN STEVE PART.
I MISSED THAT UNTIL HE WAS ALSO, BEN WAS SUPPOSED TO GET BACK TO US WITH SOMETHING.
DID WE HEAR FROM BEN? YES, WE DID.
THERE'S AN EMAIL THERE, THERE ARE TWO OF THEM.
THE, THE NUMBER, UM, WITH 30, IF I REMEMBER, THERE WAS ZERO PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
THE METRICS WERE, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS, DO WE KNOW WHERE THIS FOOD'S GOING? I MEAN THE FOOD, THE FOOD IS, HOW DOES IT, BECAUSE I KEPT HAVING TO PUSH AND TELL US HOW IT AFFECTS THE DONUT.
TELL US HOW IT AFFECTS THE DONUT.
'CAUSE HE WOULD, HE WAS GOING ON ABOUT HOW THE KIDS EAT THE PRODUCE.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE KIDS WITH THAT THING, BUT 40 STUDENTS, 40% OF HIS STUDENTS ARE SEDONA STUDENTS.
IF YOU GO TO MY EMAIL, THERE'S AN AN EMAIL FROM HIM THAT CAME IN THIS MORNING, I'VE GOT THAT CAME IN THIS THIS MORNING.
SO JUST SHRINK YOUR, OH, HONEY CLAP HERE.
I RANKED IT LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE OF US DID, AS IT TURNS OUT.
I HAVE THEM LAST IN THIS GROUP.
OKAY, WELL, LET'S, WE NEED TO TALK THIS THROUGH.
THE METRICS WERE PRACTICALLY NON-EXISTENT.
BENJAMIN LEE, I GAVE HIM REALLY HIGH ADMINISTRATIVE CAPACITY.
HE'S, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, HE'S REALLY AN IMPRESSIVE GUY.
WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO SAY? THE HEART OF OUR PROPOSAL IS TO EXPAND THE RANGE OF PEOPLE IMPACTED BY OUR FARM AND FOOD DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS.
UH, WE ALREADY PARTNER WITH DESERT STAR, MANZANITA, VERDE VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD FOOD PROJECTS.
WE HOPE IT IS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
WE ALSO BECOME SOMETHING LIKE A COOPERATIVE AGRICULTURE EXTENSION.
WE ARE THE HUNDRED SERTA SEED STORAGE CONTAINER PROJECT.
WHO ARE THE HUNDRED? WHO ARE THE 100? THEY WERE THE SPARTANS THAT WENT TO THE LAST OF 300.
UM, WELL THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE QUESTION.
WHO ARE THE HUNDRED? ARE THESE STUDENTS? WHERE'S THE ANSWER? THERE IT IS.
ARE THESE STUDENTS FROM THE, UH, IN THE ITALIC IS HIS ANSWER.
I ESTIMATED CONSERVATIVELY ALL 120 OR SO STUDENTS WHO RESIDE IN SEDONA WILL BE SERVED.
WELL NOW HE'S SAYING 120 STUDENTS RESIDE IN SEDONA TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WE CAN BRING IN TO WORK ON OR BE SERVED BY THIS PROJECT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.
'CAUSE HE SAID THAT THEIR ENROLLMENT WAS GONNA BE ABOUT
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120 FOR NEXT YEAR ESTIMATED AND 40, YOU KNOW, 40 WAS THE DONUT.WELL, I BELIEVE HE'S NEW TO THE AREA GUYS.
SO I DON'T THINK HE, I BELIEVE HE FEELS INTUITIVELY THAT BOC IS PARTS OF SEDONA BECAUSE THEY, SO HE JUST DOESN'T KNOW.
SO WHEN I DRILLED DOWN ON THAT DURING HIS INTERVIEW, HE SAID 40 STUDENTS ACTUALLY LIVE IN SEDONA PROPER.
AND THEN THE, THERE WAS THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, HOW ARE YOU GONNA MEASURE THE SUCCESS? AND I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MEASURE THE AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT MIGHT BE PRODUCED IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A RESULT OF OUR ABILITY TO EXPAND OUR CAPACITY.
THE ONLY THING TO ME WHERE FUNDING WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF FOOD HE TRANSFERS OVER TO MANZANITA, WHICH SOME OF WHICH EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO SEDONA.
BUT THAT'S ALL REALLY NEBULOUS.
AND FEEDING HIS STUDENTS, I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE SEDONA STUDENTS OR NOT, THEY'RE PAYING A LOT OF TUITION.
AND IT'S, MOST OF EM ARE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THIS IS, I THINK WE'D SKIP HIM FOR A MOMENT.
IT WAS NICE TO KNOW THAT ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, AUTOMATIC DEALERS AND IT'S ELECTRONIC.
I THINK THAT PERSONALLY IT'S A, UM, IT'S A HEALTHY ACTIVITY ACTIVITY FOR THIS WELL ORGANIZED ACTIVITY FOR AN OLD POPULATION, WHICH WE ARE.
I RANKED THEM ONE OF THE LOWEST ACTUALLY.
IN TERMS OF HOW COME, UM, WHY, LET'S SEE.
UH, FOR CITY PRIORITIES, UH, COMMUNITY IMPACT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY LOW.
I AGREED WITH YOU ON THOSE TWO.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS A PURPOSE FOR THE POPULATION, BUT I JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, UM, IT WAS SORT OF LIKE AN OPTIONAL PURPOSE TO ME, RATHER THAN A, A REALLY TERRIFIC PURPOSE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
I RATED THEM LOW AND EVERYTHING EXCEPT ORGANIZATION.
I, I JUST COULDN'T TO, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, I MEAN, THAT COUNT TO PEOPLE, THAT'S, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH.
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE A 5 0 1 C, BUT THEY'RE A 5 0 1 C SEVEN, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A SOCIAL GROUP RATHER THAN A A 5 0 1 C3 CHARITABLE GROUP.
NOT THAT THAT MATTERS TO THESE RULES, BUT IT IS, IT'S DIFFERENT.
IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW.
WELL LET'S JUST, LET'S LEAVE IT FOR THE MOMENT AND GO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHERS AND SEE WHERE WE LAND.
UM, AND, AND I TRULY WAS KIND OF TROUBLED BY THE, I KNOW THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT THE CONCEPT OF AMORTIZING, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, THEY'RE THEY'RE CAPITAL, UH, EXPENDITURES.
'CAUSE THEN IT BECOMES AN OPERATING EXPENSE INSTEAD OF A CAPITAL.
INSTEAD OF A CAPITAL, UM, UH, IMPROVEMENT.
IT BECOMES AN OPERATING STILL IS.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE SQUISHY, FRANKLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S, I'M NOT A BUSINESS PERSON.
NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS CREATIVE
SO IF WE LEAVE OFF THE EQUIPMENT STUFF, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD A FOURTH DAY TO PLAY.
BUT SHE KEPT SAYING HOW THEY'RE, UH, MEMBERSHIP HAD DROPPED.
DO THEY NEED A FOURTH DAY TO PLAY? WELL, IT SAID THEY'D BRING IN INCOME IF THEY DID THAT ONE THOUGH, RIGHT? OH, THE WAY SHE WROTE IT UP.
'CAUSE YOU PAY WHEN YOU GO WHATEVER IT IS.
AND I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS, IS THERE PROFIT IN THAT THOUGH? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PROFIT IN THERE OR IF IT'S JUST TO COVER THE COST OF THE THIRD DAY.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT'S GONNA BE THE RENTAL, IT'S WASH.
THERE'S PEOPLE, THEY HAVE TO, IT'S A RENTAL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE FOLKS THAT GRADED, I DON'T UNDERSTAND BRIDGE, BUT THEY HAD TO PAY PEOPLE TO THEY DO.
THERE'S OPERATING EXPENSES INVOLVED WITH THAT THIRD DAY.
WHATEVER THEY WOULD GET OFF THAT THIRD DAY WOULD BE A WASH.
AND WE MIGHT BE SUBSIDIZING SOME OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS MIGHT BE SUBSIDIZING THAT DAY.
WELL, WE CAN LEAVE IT FOR NOW AND MOVE ON.
I'D RATHER PUT FOOD IN PEOPLE'S MOUTHS THAN CARDS IN THEIR HANDS.
IT IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT OR IMPORTANT.
MENTAL, MENTAL STIMULATION AND A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO.
MY MOTHER WAS REALLY SHARP UP UNTIL THE TIME SHE PASSED.
AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT HER BRIDGE
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OH YEAH.HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? OH, YEAH.
TO ME, THAT GIVING, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM THAT HAS HAS THIS A PURPOSE.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE, UM, IN THIS COMMUNITY OR ANYWHERE, ACTUALLY TO SOME PEOPLE, ART IS AS ESSENTIAL AS FOOD.
TRUE MENTAL STIMULATION IS AS ESSENTIAL AS FOOD.
IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK FORWARD TO ON A SPECIFIC DAY.
SPEAKING OF THIS, AND WE KNOW, WE KNOW THIS.
SO TO ME IT'S EQUIVALENT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT HUMAN WELLBEING IS EQUAL.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THREE? THREE? I'M TRYING TO, WE'RE OKAY.
IT JUST, IT SEEMS ODD TO ME THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO ADD ANOTHER DAY AND THEN TELLING US THAT THEIR MEMBERSHIP IS DECLINING.
I'M TRYING TO FIND MOST DECLINE SINCE COVID.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS EVERYTHING SO MANY PLACES DID
WHY DID THEY WANT ANOTHER PATTY'S OPENING BID IS THREE.
UM, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH STARTING WITH THREE.
UM, THAT'S 60% OF WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE SOME RESERVES.
NOT A, NOT A LOT COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS WITH THEIR RESERVES.
BUT THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A MONEY, THEY GET MONEY EVERY YEAR IN INTEREST, YOU KNOW, FROM THEIR RESERVES PASS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT LIKE DESTITUTE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAD PRINTED OUT THEIR WHOLE REPORT AND LEFT IT AT HOME.
WELL, HERE WE'VE GOT, THEY WE GOT HERE.
LET'S TAKE NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
BECAUSE IF THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE, THEY GET ABOUT YEAR IN INCOME, I THINK IN.
SO THEIR FINANCIAL NEED IS LOW.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S GO WITH, WHAT DID I PUT FOR THAT? LET'S GO WITH THREE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW THAT PERSONALLY, THAT'S ONE I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY MAYBE TAKE DOWN TO HALF.
UM, BUT LET'S GO WITH THREE BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.
BUT WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA PUT A LITTLE DOODAH OVER HERE AS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO COME BACK AT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL AGAIN AND JUST KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO LET'S, UM, LET ME JUST PUT A LITTLE, ONE THING THAT, I'M GONNA PUT A LITTLE GREENY THING HERE.
ONE THING INTERESTING THAT YOU MIGHT JUST KNOW ABOUT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL THAT I'VE OBSERVED IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE BEN LEE HAS COME, MANY, MANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS ARE MAKING USE OF THEIR FACILITIES THAT THEY RENT OUT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, UH, WELL, LIKE EMERSON THEATER AND THE ARTS ACADEMY AND PIANO ON THE ROCKS AND SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH I ALREADY FORGOT.
SO, I MEAN, HE'S REALLY MORE, UM, HE'S MUCH MORE AWARE OF THEIR FINANCIAL RESIDUE.
HE'S, UH, GIVING US SOME MORE FINANCIAL ENGINES IN THERE.
AND HE'S MUCH MORE ACTIVE IN THE BIG PARK COMMUNITY, LET'S SAY.
HE WAS PREDICTING THAT THEIR ENROLLMENT WOULD JUMP ABOUT 15% NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T, I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY FIGURES ON THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE SAID THEY HAD A HUNDRED NOW THEY EXPECT HUNDRED 20 NEXT YEAR.
ANYWAY, SO DO YOU WANT IT, DO WE WANT AN OPENING? CAN WE OPEN SOMETHING ON VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL? JUST FOR WHAT'S A GUT YOU MEAN? WHAT YOU MEAN A NUMBER? YEAH.
WELL, I WAS WONDERING IF THEY HAD IN THEIR EXPENSE SHEET, LIKE BROKEN OUT, OH, HERE WE GO.
BUILDING MATERIALS, ELECTRICAL, COOLING, SOLAR.
SO WE COULD FUND LIKE THE SOLAR OR THE COOLING MATERIALS IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D BE FUNDING 60% OF IT.
WELL, WE'RE NEVER REALLY NOT GONNA RECEIVE 60% OF THE BENEFIT.
SO LET'S TRY AND LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
WHAT, WHAT'S A GUT ABOUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF BENEFIT WE MIGHT RECEIVE FROM THAT? I'M THINKING 30 AND WE DON'T WANNA COUNT.
THE ONLY THING HE CAN COUNT IS
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THE STUDENTS THAT HE'S GOT 40 SEDONAS STUDENTS WHO, WHO WELL, RIGHT.BUT, BUT THEY DO KIND OF HAVE THESE LITTLE SALES OF, OF PRODUCE AND HE, YOU KNOW, HE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY BEING ABLE TO NOT JUST FEED HIS KIDS WITH THAT FOOD, BUT UHHUH GIVE IT TO THE OTHER CHARITABLE, GIVE IT TO THE SUPPORTING OTHER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS AND HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET.
BUT SEE IN HIS, UM, BUDGET WORKSHEET, HE DOES INCLUDE REVENUE OF ALMOST $10,000 IN HIS PROPOSAL.
SO THE, I WAS ASSUMING THAT THAT REVENUE IS WHAT THEY, WHAT ELSE WOULD IT BE FROM, BUT FROM SELLING SOME FOOD.
SO WHAT'S HE DOING? IS HE OFFSETTING? SO IT'S 15.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS HE HAS UNDER REVENUE IS THE SALE OF THE FOOD AND US, RIGHT? YEAH.
NO, I MEAN I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
SO HE WANTS THE CITY TO PAY FOR HIS CONTAINER FOR NO, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.
IF THIS WERE NOT JUST THE CITY OF SEDONA.
I MEAN, I CAN SEE THAT IT'S A, A KIND OF A COOL IDEA TO DO THAT IN HIS POSITION, BUT I DON'T SEE WHAT IT HAS TO DO MUCH WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA PARTICULARLY.
HE SAID IF IF WE, IF THE CITY DIDN'T GIVE HIM MONEY, THEY'D FIND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEN WHAT I'M GONNA PUT HERE IS, UM, UH, WELL, IN MY NOTES, I PUT CANNOT DEFINE IMPACT TO SEDONA RESIDENCE.
BECAUSE HE'S NOT, IF HE'S GOT REVENUE FROM SELLING THE FOOD, IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S DONATING THE FOOD TO THE CITY.
I, I ASSUMED THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS FROM, BECAUSE I KNOW IN, IN THE PAST THEY HAVE, OR WE CAN CALL 'EM AND ASK THEM, WHAT IS THIS REVENUE, THIS $9,000, INSTEAD OF ASSUMING MINE IS THE SALE OF THE STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, ALRIGHT, HOW ELSE DO THEY GET REVENUE? OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER THERE? NO.
UH, WOULD IT BE ON HIS, IT'S ON THE APPLICATION ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE GRAND APPLICATION.
BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA ASK HERE.
JUST SAY, HEY LOOK, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH IT.
THIS CONTAINER IS GONNA HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT TO, FOR THE CITY, THE, THE CITY OF SEDONA PROPER.
THIS IS MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL PROJECT IN SOME WAYS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MATTER OF IMPROVING THIS CONTAINER.
THE ONE THING HE DID SAY IS THAT HE WORKS WITH RICHARD CITY.
HE PROVIDES SEEDS TO GARDENS OF FOR HUMANITY.
HE, OKAY, SO LET ME BACK OFF THIS FOR A SECOND.
HE PROVIDES SEEDS TO GARDEN FOR HUMANITY.
AND, UM, HE ALSO, UH, SUPPORTS MANZANITA.
I MEAN, MANZANITA SUPPORTS THE CITY.
SO, BUT HE'S SELLING TO MANZANITA.
WELL, MANZANITA'S PITCH IS WE'RE BUYING FOOD FROM LOCAL PRODUCERS.
OH, HE'S NOT DONATING TO MANZA.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL FIND THAT OUT.
SO WE KNOW THAT IT IS ABOUT, THE ONLY IMPACT WE CAN FIND IS THAT HE WORKS WITH, UM, GARDENS RICHARD CITY AND PROVIDES HIM WITH LOWES.
I'M SURE HE IS NOT SELLING THE SEEDS TO RICHARD.
WELL, STEPHANIE, THIS IS ALSO STEPHANIE, ACTUALLY.
YEAH, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED WHEN I'VE BACK COUNTRY HORSEMAN STUFF, BUT NOW I HAVE MY, UH, CITY SMALL GRANTS HAT ON, AND, UH, I AM CALLING, I NEED TO SPEAK WITH BEN.
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US YESTERDAY ABOUT A GRANT APPLICATION, AND IF HE'S AVAILABLE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.WELL, HE IS, WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF DOING AN ALUMNI REUNION EVENT.
UM, SO BY PHONE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO REACH OUT TO HIM BY EMAIL, IN ALL HONESTY, UM, GOING INTO THIS, UH, ALUMNI EVENT WEEKEND, BECAUSE I, HE'S NOT HERE IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW.
STEPHANIE, I'M SORRY, I, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE, IT IS MORE OF A DISCUSSION.
WE, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING OUR DECISIONS HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS.
SO LET ME, YOUR PHONE NUMBER? YEAH, I THINK HE'D WANT A CALL.
UM, UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (928) 301-5858.
AND STEPHANIE, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME? GEESE.
BUT YOU CAN JUST TELL HIM STEPHANIE FROM CITY SMALL GRANTS.
BECAUSE WE MET IN PERSON YESTERDAY AND YOU'RE NEEDING TO SPEAK TO HIM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.
WELL, I NEED TO SPEAK WITH HIM.
I'LL LET HIM KNOW WHEN I, WHEN I SEE HIM, AND IF I DON'T, I'LL TEXT HIM.
HEY, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT IF YOU TEXTED HIM.
WHERE DO WE WANNA GO NEXT? ARTS OR SOCIAL SERVICES? ARTS IS THE SHORTER LIST.
THAT'S AS GOOD A REASON AS ANNIE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING LOW HANGING FROM HERE ON OUT, BUT ANYWAY,
WHERE DO WE WANNA START? TOP TO BOTTOM OR BOTTOM TO TOP? SO IT'S, IT'S LOW TO HIGH, BUT THERE NOBODY'S LIKE, I LIKE THE TOP TO BOTTOM, BUT YEAH.
OH, WE'RE ABOUT, WE'RE UPSIDE DOWN AGAIN HERE, HANG ON A SECOND.
UM, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, IT'S, ITS PROBLEM.
I THINK SEDONA ART CENTER IS NOT HIGHLIGHTED.
WHAT'S IT ING? ALL SORT OBJECTS MUST HAVE.
IT'S ACTUALLY CAN'T READ IT MUST HAVE A SOMETHING OR SCANS CHECK THE NO.
CHRISTINE, DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE? I, I DIDN'T TELL IT.
I DIDN'T TELL WHICH COLUMN TO SORT, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO WE END UP WITH IN OTHER OH NO, I HAVE THE PERCENTAGE OF I COMPARE THEIR ASK TO WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM.
THAT'S WHAT I, I CAN KEEP TRACK OF.
SO I'M LOOKING, I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAVEL TRAINING IN THIS GROUP, BUT I THINK IT'S ALL VALID.
I DIDN'T, IT WAS ALL PAYING FOR THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ARTISTS.
NOW, UM, SO, BUT REMEMBER WE'VE GOT 2,500 OF TRAVEL DUPLICATED UNDER RED ROCK'S MUSIC FESTIVAL.
BUT REMEMBER HE WASN'T ASKING FOR THE FULL, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
RIGHT? THAT'S HE, HE'S NOT ASKING US TO FUND A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO HE CAN, WE WANT, OKAY, LET'S JUST LEAVE IT WHERE IT'S, I THINK ALL IT DOES IS CHANGE THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE ASK TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL NEED.
WE NEED SOME MAJOR HAIR CUTTING HERE.
IS THE RANKING IN ORDER? IT IS NOW.
OH, BECAUSE IT'S, I NOT C STEPHANIE IDIOT BECAUSE I HID THOSE ON THINGS.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAN SAID IT'S BRING, THEY BRING THEIR OWN TENTS APPARENTLY TO THE ARTS FESTIVAL.
SO THIS, IT'S PORTA POTTIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, EVEN WITHOUT ALL THE FANCY REDUCING THE TICKET COSTS AND ALL THAT BUSINESS, I'D GIVE 'EM THE EXTRA FIVE GRAND.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN AT $10,000 FOR
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THE LAST YEAH.YOU KNOW, I SAID, I THINK SAID YESTERDAY, I'D BE MUCH MORE, UM, OPTIMISTIC ABOUT FULLY FUNDING HIM IF HE SAID COST ARE UP.
WE NEED MORE MONEY RATHER THAN MAYBE WE'RE GONNA GET SOME CITIZENS IN AND LOWER COST.
AND, AND I KNOW, BUT DOES THAT DISQUALIFY EM? NO.
IS THAT MAKING MUCH? NO, I AGREE.
I MEAN, I THINK, BUT I MADE THAT MISTAKE.
I MADE THAT MISTAKE WHEN I WENT FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY CONTRACT.
I MADE THAT MISTAKE AND I, SO I KNOW HOW HE'S THINKING.
SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE, 'CAUSE NOW HE'S OFFERING A DIRECT BENEFIT TO THE SEDONA RESIDENCE.
WELL, IT'S DEFINITELY, HE'S DEFINITELY THROWING SOME SUGAR ON THE, IT'S PRETTY WISHY WASHY, BUT I'D STILL GIVE HIM THE MONEY.
YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF HOW HE PRESENTED IT, I THINK THEY NEED OKAY.
I WAS TRYING TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY PAID FOR THEIR FOREIGN PARTIES AND STUFF LAST YEAR.
I I LOOKED AT THAT SOMEWHERE WHEN I WAS READING IT BECAUSE I HAVE THE SAME THOUGHT AND I THOUGHT, I SORT OF THOUGHT WE GAVE THEM 10,000, 12, 10.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT THEY ACTUALLY SPENT 12, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
BUT THAT'S JUST A, AND THIS WAS THEIR 35TH ANNIVERSARY AND IT'S A BIG DEAL AND IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, AS YOU SAY.
IT'S A VERY POPULAR AND HE'S AN ACCOUNTANT.
OH, WERE YOU REALLY? WE GOT HERE FOR THE SECOND FESTIVAL.
IF SUPPLIES, I'M LOOKING AT HIS EXPENSE SHEET FOR THE PROGRAM.
IF SUPPLIES IS ALL THAT PORTA POTTY STUFF, IT'S 12,600.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I REMEMBERED.
WHAT ELSE, WHAT OTHER EXPENSES DO THEY HAVE THERE THOUGH? INSURANCE.
UM, WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST FOR THE FESTIVAL? 449,600.
AM I LOOKING AT THE WRONG THING? I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG PEOPLE.
WHERE'S YOUR SHEET? DO YOU WANT ME TO PULL IT UP HERE? IS THIS EASIER HERE? LEMME JUST THIS, I'VE FINANCIAL INCOME SOURCES.
INCOME, EXPENSE LICENSE, SANITATION, SITE RENTALS.
IS THAT WHAT WE, HE ALWAYS ASK FOR SITE RENTALS.
WELL, WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST FOR THERE? TOTAL FESTIVAL EXPENSES ARE 40,529 AND SITE RENTALS ARE 15,984.
YOU KNOW, I TO BE, I AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GIVEN THEM 10 GRAND AND IT WAS ONLY, WE, WE SUPPORTED THEIR MARKETING AT $10,000 FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS.
AND THINGS USED BE, IT DOESN'T MARKETING, FUNGIBLE MARKETING WAS THE, UH, THE VISUAL ARTIST PEOPLE.
THAT WAS ALWAYS THEIR MARKETING STUFF.
SO THEIR BIGGEST EXPENSE IS SITE RENTALS.
THE NEXT BIGGEST ONE IS $4,000 IN SANITATION.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CITY PURPOSE.
WHAT'S YOUR VOTE ED? HOW MUCH MONEY? UM, I'D GIVE HIM 12 FIVE.
CHRISTINE, YOU'RE THE, I'M HAPPY WITH 12.
FILM FESTIVAL, YOUR HONOR, I THINK IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO HIM THAT THIS IDEA OF MAKING IT, AT ONE POINT HE SAID FREE FOR SEDONA CITIZENS AT ANOTHER PLACE REDUCED.
SAID NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REASONABLE.
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IT'S JUST NOT REASONABLE AT ALL.WELL THEN WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE JUST STATE THE, UM, REDUCTION IN TICKET PRICE IS NOT, IS NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING.
BECAUSE I, I DON'T WANT 'EM TO THINK THAT THEY'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH SOME WAY.
USE THE MONEY WHEREVER YOU WANT TO.
GOING TO THE SITE RENTALS AND THAT'S 12,500.
WE, FROM, FROM THEIR BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR, THEY PAID A LITTLE OVER 15 GRAND FOR SITE RENTALS.
WHAT IS SITE RENTALS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE MIDDLE OF THE FOOTBALL FIELD? YEAH, I GUESS.
DO THEY ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE FIELD.
SO THEY'RE
THAT'S WHY THEY, THAT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE.
THE SCHOOL'S CHARGING A LOT FOR THEIR FACILITIES.
WELL, WHAT ELSE DO THEY RENT BESIDES, DO THEY RENT THEIR, UH, PORTA-POTTIES.
SEE, THAT'S THAT, THAT WAS A SEPARATE ITEM.
SEE, SO IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT, OKAY.
YEAH, BUT IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT ON THEIR CURRENT REQUEST.
WHAT ARE THEY REQUESTING MONEY FOR? THREE.
IT SEEMED TO, MY MEMORY IS THAT IT WAS TO COVER THE FREE EVENTS.
WELL, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY FOCUS.
AND THEN I THINK YOU GUYS SHUT ME DOWN ON THAT YESTERDAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME.
IT INCLUDED FREE EVENTS, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WERE OTHERS.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER STUFF TOO.
YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF IN THERE.
OH, BECAUSE OF THE MO THERE WAS THE MOBILE, THE TWO, THE NEW THINGS THAT WEREN'T FREE THAT, WELL, THAT WAS A FREE THING.
THE MOBILE, THE MOBILE FILM BUSINESS GOING AROUND TO THE HOODS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT WAS LIKE A PILOT PROJECT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THAT WAS PART OF IT IS GOING AROUND BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE WHOLE, UM, SO DESCRIBING THE PROGRAM THEY'RE SEEKING FUNDING FOR IS TO INTRODUCE SPECIAL PROGRAMMING FOR THEIR 31ST SEASON.
THIS WILL INCLUDE SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND LIVE THEATRICAL EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AS WELL AS FREE MOVIES ON THE MOVE AND CONCERTS IN THE COURTYARD PROGRAMS. INTRODUCTION OF THE ART SALON.
ADDITIONALLY, FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR A FREE CLOSING NIGHT CONCERT FOR SEDONA RESIDENCE.
SO BASICALLY IT IS, UM, ENHANCED PROGRAMMING WITH SOME BREAD AND CIRCUSES.
SO WE WENT TO THAT FREE EVENING, UH, THIS PAST YEAR.
IT WAS A BLAST, BUT MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY, ALL THE COSTS WERE COVERED BY SPONSORS.
WERE WE A SPONSOR? NO, LINDA GOLDSTEIN.
GRANTS ARE ONLY 5% OF THEIR INCOME.
SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE SLUMP THAT THEY WERE IN ABOUT, WHAT, FOUR YEARS AGO? OH MY GOSH.
WELL THAT'S, THEY'RE REALLY AMAZING.
THEY, THEY GOT, UM, CHUCK MA GOT ON THEIR BOARD AND A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE AND GOT 'EM SQUARED AWAY.
NO, I MEAN, I, I TOLD, I TOLD PAT ONE NIGHT YEARS AGO, I SAID, I, I USED SLEEP AT NIGHT.
NO, THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT ABSOLUTELY.
35 WOULD BE 64% OF THEIR, ASK MY NUMBER'S.
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SO WE HAVE 40, 30 PREVIOUSLY ASK 30, GOT 13 LAST YEAR.I'M HAPPY WITH 30, BUT NOW IT'S 30.
WE'VE STILL GOT, UM, 10 OTHER FOLKS.
YOUTH CONCERT MUSIC LESSONS AND THEN THE FEES FOR RENTING SPAC.
I SAY GIVE 'EM ALL 20 PERSONALLY, BUT I, I VOTE FOR THAT.
BECAUSE THEY USED FOUR LAST YEAR.
I'D SAY WE LEAVE IT AT 20 FOR NOW, AND THEN THREE, THREE TO TWO.
HOW, HOW WE DO WITH OUR BUDGET.
UM, I'LL PUT A GREEN HERE THAT WE HAD SOME DISAGREEMENT ON.
UH, NOT DISAGREEMENT, BUT SOME MAYBE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ALTERING THE NUMBER THAT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT REAL STRONG.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY UNANIMOUSLY AGREED.
NOW EMERSON IS THE, UM, IS THE YOUNG MAN WHO CAME IN AND THEY ARE, THAT'S JUST THE PERFORMANCE OF HOLIDAYS, ICE HOLIDAYS ON ICE, WHICH IS THE SEDARIS THING.
AND IT'S TO REDUCE THE TICKET PRICE.
TO TRY TO BOOST THEIR, TO BE ABLE TO EXPOSE MORE PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT TO BOOST THE, WELL BOOSTING THE ATTENDANCE, BUT THE SPIN IS TO EXPOSE MORE CITIZENS WHO MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR MORE PEOPLE TO COME TO EXPERIENCE IT.
AND YOU KNOW, IT, WILL IT WORK? WE DON'T KNOW.
HAVE THEY REACHED THE LEVEL OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY'RE GONNA GET BECAUSE THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE, IN, IN THE PERFORMANCE AND IT'S, THERE'S NOT, IT PRICE IS NOT AN ISSUE.
OR IS PRICE POINT A PROBLEM FOR THEIR ATTENDANCE? WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
AND I THINK THIS IS A WAY FOR THEM TO FIND THAT OUT, WHICH IS A GOOD STRATEGIC MOVE.
AND THEY WON'T BE VIDEO STREAMING.
LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 20 AND THEY WERE ABLE, WE RECOMMENDED EIGHT AND THAT WAS WITH THE VIDEO STREAMING.
AND THEY CAN'T VIDEO STREAM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE LICENSING TO VIDEO STREAM.
SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING THE BRAKES ON FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN THEY COULDN'T GET THE LICENSING FROM SEDARIS TO THE VIDEO STREAM, WHICH WOULD COST MORE.
I DON'T THINK THEY, THAT'S A GOOD, THEY PROBABLY DON'T EVEN ALLOW IT.
I WOULD BECAUSE HE DOES LIVE REPORT AND THAT'S THE END OF IT.
I'M EVEN SURPRISED THEY GOT PERMISSION TO DO THIS.
DO WE HAVE A NUMBER FOR EMERSON? MY OPENING BID IS 12.
12 COVERS THE SALARIES FOR THE ACTORS AND THAT LEAVES THEM PAYING FOR RENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT IS, THAT'S A GOOD, UM, START.
AND IT'S, UM, I'M JUST GONNA PUT AFTER SALARY HERE JUST TO MAKE SOME NOTES TO MYSELF.
SEDONA SYMPHONY, THEY HAD, THEY'RE PUTTING ON A POP CONCERT.
WHAT DO THEIR NUMBERS LOOK LIKE? PRESENT A PERFORMANCE OF LA CASA AZU.
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IS IT CALEB OR KALO? IT'S CALEB.UM, LET'S SEE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR 27% OF THE BUDGET.
THAT'S THE ARTIST, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
THEY HAVE AND THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY HAVE A NEW EXEC, BRAND NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THIS YEAR.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE REAL HARD COST IS 40 GRAND.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL HARD COSTS, BUT, OKAY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START 'EM AT 20 AND SEE WHERE WE ARE, BUT I DON'T THINK I'D GO WITH THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL FEELING, UM, THE CONCEPT THAT THIS, UH, STATE ARTS FUND THAT USED TO GIVE OUT SO MUCH MONEY TO PEOPLE IS KIND OF, UH, DUBIOUS IF, AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT MUCH COMPARED TO THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROGRAM.
I'M FINE WITH PUTTING 20 IN FOR THE MOMENT AND THEN JUST SEEING WHERE WE END UP.
20 IN IS, AND I'LL PUT A LITTLE GREENIE HERE.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT HER, UM, HER FUNDING HAS BEEN COMING FOR THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS BOARD FROM LIKE A PRIVATE FOUNDATION THAT GIVES HER 30,000 EVERY YEAR.
ISN'T THAT AMAZING? I MEAN, WOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT PERSONALLY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT EITHER.
HER ALL, HER BIGGEST PROBLEMS ALWAYS ARE THE PIANOS AND TRYING TO GET THE PIANOS MM-HMM.
AND THAT WOULD BE A HASSLE ALL THE TIME.
UM, ARTS ACADEMY, CAMILLA WITH HER IMMERSION EVENT.
I MEAN, REALLY? SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S PRETTY FAR DOWN THE ROAD OF PLANNING AND RECRUITING AND OH, SHE'LL PULL IT OFF VENUE AND SHE'LL PULL IT OFF AND, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'D BE A BLAST ACTUALLY.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A 15, WE HAVE A 2015, WE HAVE A 15 MACHINE NUMBER.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD'VE NO PROBLEM WITH SAYING 15 FOR RIGHT NOW WITH AN EVALUATION.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD BE FINE WITH.
WHAT ABOUT YOU, CHRISTINE? SHE SERVES A, A UNIQUE, SHE'S GOT HER, HER GOALS ARE SO CLEAR AND SO, UM, SO WELL-DEFINED AND HER PHILOSOPHY IS SO WELL-DEFINED AND DOES THAT, LET'S LEAVE IT AT 15.
NOT FOR, I'M NOT GONNA PUT HER ON THERE.
NOW REMEMBER, EMERSON IS THE ONE IS USING LOCAL ACTORS, WHICH IS KIND OF A PLUS TO ME.
AND WE ARE GIVING THEM 12 AND THEIR ASK WAS 15.
DO YOU WANNA PUT IT BACK UP TO 15 OR MOVE THAT DOWN TO 12? NO.
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I'M THINKING 12 FOR ARTS ACADEMY.UM, CARPET BAG STILL PEOPLE, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING ALL PLANNED.
I MEAN, THE EVENT IS ON, RIGHT? THEY'RE NEW.
SO I'M SURE THEY DON'T HAVE A, HE I RANKED THEM MUCH LOWER THAN, THAN THE AVERAGE OF PEOPLE DID IT.
AND I WAS THINK WHY, AND I DID, I I THOUGHT PUBLIC PURPOSE, UH, PRIORITIES WERE LOW, BUT THE PUBLIC PERFECT IS THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHERS.
THE, UM, IMPACT IS A LITTLE LOWER.
BUT HIS METRICS WAS THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
WE GET ATTENDANCE OFF THE TICKET SALES AND WE KNOW WHERE THEY, THEY PUT WHERE THEY LIVE.
DO THEY SELL TICKETS? I THOUGHT, DO THEY HAVE THE REVENUE? I'VE GOT A, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT IT WAS FREE.
IT'S, I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE THAT SAYS THEY WANT US TO COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST.
CAN YOU LOOK THAT CHRISTINE? A HUNDRED PERCENT HERE.
OH, I THINK THEY ARE ASKING A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YES, THERE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST.
I FEEL LIKE WE, THE CARPET BACK SELL
I I JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF IMPACT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU SAID THEY'RE READY TO GO, THEY, THEY HAVE THE POSSE GROUNDS.
IT'S A FREE, IT'S A FREE PERFORMANCE OF POSSE GROUNDS.
SO WHAT'S THEIR, UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THEIR, WHAT ARE THEIR COSTS? WHAT, WHAT ARE THEIR EXPENSES FOR THIS THING? OH.
'CAUSE HE'S BRINGING PEOPLE FROM FREAKING COPENHAGEN AND AMSTERDAM AND YEAH.
ALL THOSE, I THINK THAT'S A BIT EXCESSIVE.
UM, WELL, HE'S NOT ASKING FOR A LOT OF MONEY FOR THAT THOUGH.
OKAY, SO LYING HERE, $560 DOESN'T COVER IT.
THAT'S THE, THE BIGGEST EXPENSE IS 6,500 FOR SALARIES.
FOLLOWED BY 2004 CONSULTANTS AND PROFESSIONAL FEES.
HE DID SAY THAT IN, UM, PRESCOTT WHILE THEY WERE CONSISTENTLY PERFORMING THAT IT WAS A REALLY COMMUNITYWIDE EVENT ONCE THEY GOT ESTABLISHED, SOMETHING COMMUNITY RETURNED TO AGAIN.
DID YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE, UH, ONLINE VIDEOS OF PAST PERFORMANCES? NO, I DIDN'T.
IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING WE'VE EVER SEEN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT HOW IT WOULD GO OVER WITH THE, UH, OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT KIDS WOULD LOVE IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE SAYING, HUH? OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS IT LIKE A CIRCUS CIRQUE DE SOLE? NO, IT'S MORE LIKE A DANCE.
AND IS IT ALL IT'S GONNA, IS IT ALL STILTS THEN THE WHOLE, NOT NOT EVERYBODY.
THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE MANY PERFORMANCES ONLINE.
SOME ARE ON STILT, SOME ARE NOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF ACROBATICS AND IT SEEMS DANCE.
IT'S, THAT SEEMED TO BE ALL OF THE ONES THEY FILMED.
SO THERE WAS LIGHTING THAT WAS ADDING TO THE EVENT.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER, ONE OF THEM COMES FROM COLUMBIA, RIGHT? SOUTH AMERICA.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT KIND OF PERFORMANCE THAN IS BEING OFFERED HERE BY ANYBODY ELSE.
WHAT DID HE SAY ABOUT SCALABILITY IF WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM ENOUGH MONEY? DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WHAT DID THEY SAY? WHAT DID THEY SAY IN THE APP? I DON'T REMEMBER.
AND I JUST NOTED IT WAS SCALABLE, BUT OH.
LET ME ASK, OF EXPERIENCE PROGRAM GENERATES
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WHERE YOU MEASURE SUCCESS.I HAD HIS METRICS LOW, YOU KNOW, IN MY SCORING.
HOW CAN YOU DO IT? YOU DON'T KNOW NOW? OKAY.
LET ME SEE WHAT, HOW, HOW HE'S GONNA, WHAT THE SCALABILITY IS.
BEN MENTIONED TO ME THAT IF IT WAS GONNA BE PARTIAL, OH, I BET YOU THIS BEN LEE.
HANG ON SOON TO S THIS IS STEPHANIE.
IT'S BEN LEE CALLING FROM VALLEY SCHOOL.
UM, WE, WE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING HERE WITH, UM, UH, IMPACT TO SEDONA PROPER, NOT VOC.
WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR 40 STUDENTS AND WHATNOT.
UH, BUT WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE JUSTIFYING, UM, UH, AND DEFINING IMPACT TO SEDONA RESIDENTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, ARE YOU, WHEN YOU SELL YOUR, WHEN YOU, UH, WHEN YOU GIVE MOVE, GIVE MONEY TO, WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR FOOD TO MANZANITA, DO YOU SELL IT TO THEM OR DO YOU DONATE IT? DONATE YOU DONATE MANZANITA FOOD? WHO ELSE ARE YOU DONATING TO? UH, FOOD BANK WISE? UM, WELL, SO WE, WE WORK WITH THE, UM, VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FOOD PROJECT.
UM, AND THAT IS BOTH SORT OF, UM, THEIR SYSTEM IS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UH, THEY COLLECT LOTS AND LOTS OF FOOD FROM, FROM DIFFERENT PLACES.
UH, THEN THEY SORT IT ALL AND THEN DISTRIBU IT.
UM, AND WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, RUN KIND OF OUR OWN FOOD PANTRY DOING, UH, GREEN BAGS, UH, YOU KNOW, GROCERY DROP OFF, UH, UH, HOWEVER MANY TIMES A YEAR THOSE HAVE.
UM, WE ALSO WORK WITH THE BY FOOD COUNCIL, UM, AND, UH, AND THEN STAR, BUT OF COURSE THAT'S AT COTTONWOOD.
BUT OUR, OUR HOPE WOULD BE TO EXPAND, UM, AND FIND ADDITIONAL PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
IN SEDONA, UH, UH, WHO MIGHT BENEFIT.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT THE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE'VE GOT THE SEDONA FOOD BANK.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHERS, UH, IN THERE.
WHAT, HOW ARE YOU DERIVING YOUR, WHAT'S THE REVENUE NUMBER ON YOUR PROGRAM? INCOME? WELL, WE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO A SERVICE TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND, UH, SOME OF OUR MONEY ON IT.
UM, OF COURSE, THE PRODUCE THAT COMES FROM OUR FARM IS PRODUCED, YOU KNOW, BY US.
WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING THE LABOR OF OUR FARM MANAGER AND OUR KIDS, I GUESS, AND THE SUPPLIES.
UM, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE NOT CHARGING ANYBODY ELSE FOR THAT.
WE ALSO, UM, ANNUALLY RECEIVE, UH, DONATION FROM CRAIG LUTHER.
HANG, HANG ON, HANG ON JUST A SECOND.
ON YOUR, ON YOUR PROGRAM BUDGET? NO.
ON YOUR PROGRAM BUDGET, YOU HAVE, UM, 9,000.
YOU HAVE OUR, OUR REQUEST, THE REQUEST YOU HAVE FROM THE CITY AS, UM, $15,000.
THEN YOU HAVE REVENUE AS AN INCOME SOURCE OF $9,000.
WHERE, HOW, HOW ARE YOU GENERATING THAT $9,000? WELL, SO WE DO, UM, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, LIKE FARM TO TABLE EVENTS HERE ON CAMPUS.
UM, WHICH WE, WHICH WE'VE JUST RESTARTED AND WE'LL BE DOING MORE AND MORE
UM, THOSE ARE ON A DONATION BASIS.
SO PEOPLE COME AND WE FEED 'EM, UH, AND THEY GET TO TOUR A FARM AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY, THEY GIVE US A DONATION.
WE ALSO DO, UH, HAVE OUR FARM MANAGER GOING TO, UH, FARMER'S MARKETS AROUND AND, AND SELLING SEEDS AND PRODUCE OTHER THINGS, SOLVES AND TEACHERS AND STUFF.
UM, AND SO, UH, THAT'S A SOURCE OF, UH, INCOME, UH, AS WELL THAT UNDERWRITES THE, THE PROGRAM.
ALRIGHTYY, UM, PANEL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO.
OKAY, LET'S, UH, LET'S GO BACK TO CARPET BAG HERE FOR A SECOND.
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OKAY.OH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
I FORGOT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
OH, AND AS FAR AS THEIR, UM, METRICS, THEY WERE COUNTING PEOPLE AND THEN ASKING PEOPLE TO FILL OUT SURVEYS.
WHERE IS THAT STUPID QUESTION?
TOO BAD WE CAN'T SEARCH ON THESE PDFS.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
IN THE MEANTIME, MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT THEIR, UM, THEIR DEMOS.
YOU CAN SEE THEIR, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
NO, I CAN'T EVEN, ALRIGHT, SO, OH, HERE IT IS.
WHERE IS IT? I MEAN, WE ARE IN THIS WHERE, IN THIS PACKET? IT'S ON PAGE EIGHT, THE BOTTOM OF PAGE EIGHT OF 16.
OUR ROAMING FESTIVAL BUDGET INCLUDES ALLOCATIONS FOR GUESTS, ARTISTS IN OUR PROGRAM.
THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ITEM TO REMOVED ALLOCATIONS.
THE SECOND ITEM WOULD LOOK FOR IN KIND SUPPORT.
SO THEY WOULD JUST HAVE LESS OF A PERFORMANCE? WELL, ALLOCATIONS FOR GUEST ARTISTS.
THEY CUT OUT THE GUEST ARTISTS.
THEY WOULD JUST GO WITH THEIR OWN FOLKS.
WHICH I MEAN, I THINK IS OKAY FOR STARTERS.
SO, UM, THEN, THEN THAT NUMBER, THE PROGRAM NUMBER OF, UH, THE PAID ARTISTS, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO CUT 'EM OFF AT THE KNEES, UH, IS SIX, WHAT WAS IT, 6,000 BUCKS? HANG A SECOND.
THREE FOR THE ARTISTS, 500 FOR TRAVEL.
WELL, SO IF THE GUEST ARTISTS ARE THE CONSULTANTS, YES.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S, THAT'S 2002 GRAND.
MY OPENING, MY OPENING BID FOR STARTERS IS GONNA BE SEVEN.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE SONO AND REPTILES IN A WAY, ISN'T IT? VERY MUCH THE SAME KIND THING.
I THINK SUPPORTING NEW, I MEAN SUPPORTING NEW AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE IT HERE.
IT'S THE SAME JUSTIFICATION WE USE TO FUND THE BALLET, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER BALLET.
AND THE REASON WE FUND EMON EMERSON THEATER IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT PERFORMING ART.
I MEAN, IT'S A WAY TO ROUND OUT THE ART OFFERINGS HERE.
THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE FORM OF ART.
'CAUSE I MEAN, WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE TWO CLASSIC, WE HAVE A LOT OF CLASSICAL MUSIC.
SO WE'RE GOING WITH, UM, EIGHT.
BUT BALLET FOLKS DIDN'T COME BACK THIS YEAR, HUH? OR LAST YEAR EITHER.
THEY ONLY, NO BALLET DONE IT ONE YEAR.
I THINK SHE'S, UM, ABSOLUTELY.
SHE'S ON THE BOARD OF SOMETHING ELSE THOUGH.
OH, SHE'S A VERY ACTIVE WOMAN.
SO RED ROCK MUSIC, THAT FESTIVAL IS ACTUALLY RANG TIRES IN THE CARPET BAG, BUT WE KINDA SKIPPED THEM.
ARTS, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I THOUGHT THAT 12 BELONGS TO ARTS ACADEMY DRIVING MISS DAISY.
SO 12 HERE AND THEN THIS IS, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT RED ROCK, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.
NO, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT HIM.
ALRIGHT, WELL OUR BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS ONE ART CENTER AND THAT'S WHY ED LEFT
IS THAT WHY HE LEFT? OH, OKAY.
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HE JUST WENT TO GET FOOD.SO I GUESS WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE HE HERE, HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
I WAS SHOCKED AT THE $75,000 FIGURE.
I THOUGHT IS THERE A LIMIT ON SMALL GRANTS? NO.
JUDGMENT ON HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THINGS AND TO, IT WAS HARDER TO DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE ENTIRE YEARS WORTH OF PROGRAMS, EXHIBITS, AND PROGRAMS. MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WASN'T LIKE, LET'S BUILD FOUR SIGNS FOR KSB.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GET YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT.
AND THEIR NEED, THEIR ASK HERE OF 75,000 IS ONLY 17% OF THE BUDGET FOR THIS MAN.
SEDONA ARTS CENTER, HERE WE GO.
WELL, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER FOLKS.
SO CIF IS, WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR CIF IS PRETTY SIMILAR BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY FUNDING A SEASON OF ACTIVITIES.
BUT CIF IS PUTTING ON A PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW, A SHOW, SOMETHING TO COME ATTEND THAT NIGHT.
THESE ARE EXHIBITS THAT I ASSUME ARE GONNA BE UP MM-HMM.
THEY'RE ALSO BRINGING, SIF IS BRINGING THINGS TO THE, BRINGING ACTIVITIES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE SHE GOT, THEY GOT, BUT 30 WAS THE REQUEST LAST YEAR.
SO WE GAVE THEM ABOUT HALF LAST YEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ROUGHLY HALF OR JUST UNDER ONE OR THE OTHER.
AND THIS IS THE ONE WHERE SUPPOSEDLY MORE RESIDENTS THAN LIVE IN THE, THAN REALLY LIVE IN THE CITY WERE LISTED.
IS THAT RIGHT? REQUIRED AN EARLY EMAIL THAT THE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED.
WE GAVE, WE GAVE THEM 13,000 LAST YEAR.
UM, AND THEN THEY ARE SCALABLE.
UM, THEY WOULD JUST, AS SHE SAY, REDUCE THEIR PROGRAMMING WOULD BE REDUCED.
WELL, WE'VE HAD TO SCALE BACK ON SOME ALREADY.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, OKAY.
HERE MY BUSINESS IS WHATEVER WE DO, WHAT WHATEVER WE DO FOR THE ART CENTER, I THINK, I THINK THE FILM FESTIVAL AND THE ART CENTER ARE PRETTY EQUIVALENT.
AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BRINGING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BRINGING STUFF TO THE COMMUNITY AS A, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A HOLISTIC PACKAGE.
BECAUSE ACTUALLY C IS KIND OF, UM, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE PACKAGING.
THEY'RE BEING CREATIVE ABOUT HOW THEY'RE PACKAGING THE STUFF.
HONESTLY, I THINK MAYBE WE TAKE, LET'S, OKAY, LET'S PUT A NUMBER IN HERE.
LET'S, LET'S, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT PHILOSOPHY, LET'S GO 30 NUMBER 14 IN THE HOLE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR MOSHI.
LET'S PUT A NUMBER IN FOR MOSHI.
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THIS.I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET IT IN HERE.
NOW WITH MOSHI, YOU HAVE, WE HAVE TO SUBTRACT SOMETHING FROM ME, OR HAVE YOU ALREADY DONE THAT? NO, IT IS JUST THAT WE'RE ONLY AT A LITTLE PERCENTAGE.
IF HE WAS ASKING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT, IT WOULD BE A STRAIGHT SUBTRACTION.
BUT HE WE'RE ONLY 10% OF THEIR BUDGET, SO IT, IT'S NOT AN IMPACT TO US.
SO MUCH OF THAT THING WAS HIS SALARY, WHICH HE SAID IT'S ABOUT TIME, ESSENTIALLY.
THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF SALARY IN THERE.
UM, AND EVEN THOUGH IN THE NARRATIVE THEY SAID FREE TICKETS TO STUDENTS, I LOOKED UP THE TICKET PRICING THERE.
THEY HAVE A DISCOUNTED STUDENT TICKET.
IT'S NOT FREE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONCEPTUAL THINGS HERE.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST THROWING NUMBERS IN HERE RIGHT NOW.
BUT IT'S, IT IS INVOLVED BY PUTTING A NUMBER IN, UM, TO THE SEDONA ART CENTER.
IT, IT IS REQUIRING, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER, OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.
AND, UH, THAT BEING SAID, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF THROWING ANYTHING UP THERE AND SEEING HOW SHORT WE ARE.
UM, AND THE PHILOSOPHY HERE IS SO FAR, AT LEAST WITH THE CONCEPT IS THE SEDONA ARTS FESTIVAL.
UM, AND THE, UH, SEDONA, UH, CIF OH, YOU MEAN SEDONA ARTS CENTER.
THE SEDONA ARTS CENTER AND CF ARE, HAVE PACKAGED A, UM, A, A, A SEASONAL, UH, AN EVENT THAT RUNS THE EVENT IS ONE EVENT, BUT IT RUNS LIKE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SEASON.
ACTUALLY, S IS A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF THAT, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF A HOLISTIC OFFERING TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO FOR THAT, PHILOSOPHICALLY THEY SEEM EQUIVALENT.
SO IF WE, IF WE LOOK AT MOSHI, UM, FOR THE MUSIC FESTIVAL, WE NEED TO PUT A NUMBER IN THERE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE LIKE WAY IN THE RED.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START TRIMMING DOWN.
AND, UM, SO WHAT DO WE SAY SIX FOR MOSHI? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, WE'RE WE'RE ONLY 10% OF HIS BUDGET.
WE'RE 20,000 OFF NOW IF WE'RE GOING TO, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA HAIRCUT, BUT LOOKING AT, I MEAN, COMBINING THE OTHER NUMBER AND THAT NUMBER.
HOW ARE WE DOING WITH OTHER, WE'RE WE'RE AHEAD.
SO LET'S LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.
'CAUSE NOW AT THE BOTTOM, WE'RE STILL AHEAD.
SO WE CAN LEAVE IT UNTIL WE FINISH SOCIAL.
WHAT ARE YOU LAUGHING AT, DEAN AHEAD? I, I JUST WELL, WE GOT 45,000 BUCKS HERE.
SO LET'S GO DOWN AND ATTACK THE SOCIAL SERVICES.
OH, YOU NEED TO RESORT THEM ALSO.
EVERYBODY IN, LET'S LOOK AT THE BOTTOM NUMBER.
IF EVERYBODY GOT WHAT THEY ASK.
HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO TRIM? ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
SO IT'S MORE THAN, IT'S ABOUT HALF WITH THE BEST NUMBERS.
I, I THINK DESERVE A HUNDRED PERCENT AS A START.
YOUR OPINION WAS THE TOP ONES.
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100% TO START WITH.THAT'S MANZANITA COMMUNITY, FOOD BANK AND VSAR SEARCH AND RESCUE.
I MEAN, I WANT, I AGREE WITH THE TWO TOP THERE, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE.
I AGREE WITH THE VERDE SEARCH AND RESCUE, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WELL, IT'S ONLY FROM THE, THEIR IMPACT ON SEDONA PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S 80% OF THEIR IT'S VISITORS IN IT.
THEY'RE OUT IN THE COUNTY AND SO ON THE COUNTY AND JUST, THAT'S THE ONLY WELL, BUT, BUT WE, I ADMIRE THEM HUGELY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT ALL THEY'VE, THEY'VE COME TO PREVIOUS YEARS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SEDONA RESIDENTS.
YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA GET LOST, WHO'S GONNA GET INJURED.
I HAVE THEM HIGH BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
I THINK THEY'RE HOW MANY TIMES THEY'RE GONNA BE NEEDED AND I THINK THEY'RE GREAT.
ALRIGHT, LETS, WELL, IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT THE G LOOK AT THE CALLS, SHERIFF DOESN'T PAY, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, TO ME, JUST LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE EXPANDING THEIR DIVISIONS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE STARTING THE HORSE ONE NOW TOO.
THEY'VE GOT A BUT THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR THAT.
I'M NOT EVEN PRO PROSING MORE FUNDS.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR AND THE TRAINING.
IT'S PAID OFF WITH THE DOG AND EARLIER WITH THE DRONE.
UM, REMEMBER IF THEY, THEY DON'T GET FUNDED, THEY JUST DO INTERNAL TRAINING, WHICH MEANS THEIR LEVEL OF CAPABILITIES STAY STAGNATES, STAGNATES, THEY JUST DON'T GET ANY BETTER.
WELL LET'S SEE HOW COMING UP WITH THE REST OF THEM, HOW IT TURNS OUT.
OKAY, WELL LET'S JUST GIVE 'EM EVERYTHING.
LISA, WELL, LAST YEAR, MANS OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE TOP.
LAST YEAR, MANS INDIAN OUTREACH ASKED FOR MORE THAN WE GAVE THEM.
AS I RECALL, THE 22 ASKED, RECOMMENDED 20 MM-HMM.
SO THEIR FINANCIAL NEED IS LESS THAN FIVE.
SOME OF THESE OTHERS, THEIR FINANCIAL NEED WAS LOW.
30% THEIR NEED IS LOW AT MANZANITA.
THAT'S A, THEIR FINANCIAL NEED IS A SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO THEIR TOTAL BUDGET.
NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT DESERVING.
AND CHRISTINA POINTED THAT THOSE, THAT OUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL BUDGET.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THAT TOO.
'CAUSE I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY BEFORE.
WELL, FINANCIAL NEED IS ONE OF THEIR, I THOUGHT, OH, THAT HAS TO BE ORGANIZATION FINANCIAL NEED.
WELL, THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TOTAL BUDGET, IT HAS TO BALANCE WITH THE IMPACT.
WHEREAS THE COMMUNITY FOOD BANK, WE'RE ONLY 20% OF THEIR BUDGET.
BUT THE SEDONA FOOD BANK IS, I MEAN, HERE IN SEDONA, MANZANITA SERVES A LOT OF AREA.
THEY SERVE THE WHOLE VERDE VALLEY.
YOU HAVE THE WRONG NUMBER FOR THEIR ASS.
NO, IT'S 30 33,000 280, 33 2 80 A.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE.
SO YOU LEAVE THE 28 WHERE IT IS, YOU LEAVE IT.
OH REALLY? SO THEY'RE ASKING 33? YEAH.
YOU WANT US TO LEAVE IT THERE? YEAH.
NOT THAT, THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GET THE 26 BUCKS, BUT, OKAY.
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GO WITH LISA HERE.I MEAN, THEY GOT NON-PROFIT OF THE YEAR AWARD OR WHAT CAN DO AND HOW THEY MANAGE IT.
YOU WANNA GET, YOU WANT TO START WITH 12 FIVE? I MEAN, WE RUNNING OUTTA MONEY FAST.
BUT SHE'S ONLY WORKING IN ONE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.
WELL, SHE'S TRYING TO GET INTO WEST SEDONA.
RUNNING RIVER DIDN'T WORK OUT.
SO SHE'S AT THE CHARTER SCHOOL.
SHE SHE'S, SHE'S NOT IN WEST SEDONA NOW.
SHE'S OH, SHE'S, OH, SHE'S GETTING CHARTER.
SHE IS WORKING WITH THE, THE GAL SAID THAT SHE WOULD REINSTATE HER AT WEST SEDONA, MY BAD.
BUT SHE, SHE COULDN'T FIND ENOUGH TEACHERS FOR ONE THING.
AND THEN, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD ROOM LAST YEAR NOW, BUT THEY HAVE THE ROOM NOW.
NOW WE GOT THE ROOM AND TEACHERS ARE STILL OUT TILL OUR OUT.
BUT SHE IS WORKING WITH, UM, SHE'S GOT SCHOOL SUPPORT LETTERS FROM CHARTER WEST, SEDONA AND RUNNING RIVER.
BUT SHE, SHE CAN'T OPERATE IN THOSE RUNNING RIVER FELL APART.
IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, SHE SAID IT FELL, DIDN'T WORK OUT.
AND UM, WEST SEDONA, SHE STILL DOESN'T HAVE TEACHERS, BUT SHE HAS THE ROOM AND THEN CHARTER'S THE ONE THAT'S FULLY FUNCTIONING.
YOU GUYS, LOOK, WE ONLY HAVE $21,000 LEFT FOR ALL THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT'S LIKE TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND START WHACKING AWAY AT THESE FIRST THREE RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
I MEAN, THERE JUST ISN'T ANY QUESTION BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING LIKE ZERO OFF THE REST OF THIS SHIFT.
THIS IS LIKE UGLY, UGLY, UGLY, UGLY DAMN.
TWO BED STEPS CAME THROUGH WITH SUCH GOOD INFORMATION.
OH, H UM, SPEAKING OF WHICH, WELL, ALRIGHT, LET'S, UM, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MANZANITA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS OUT 10 NOW.
WELL, VERDE VALLEY SEARCH AND RESCUE IS YES OR NO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SCALABLE.
THEY EITHER PAY FOR THE COURSES OR THEY DON'T, BUT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT COURSES.
SO THEY COULD PAY FOR ROPES OR NOT.
THAT ONE'S NOT SCALABLE AT ALL.
UM, THE DOG THING, THEY'RE HIRING A COMPANY.
DO THEY JUST HIRE THEM FOR LESS SESSIONS? I LET'S CALL THEM WHAT? YEAH, THEY HAD TO, TO USE THEIR OWN FUNDS.
REMEMBER ON THE DOG, WAS IT $20,000? THE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY PAYING.
THEY'VE ALREADY, FOR THAT PART.
LIKE ON THE, THE ROPES ONE, THE, THE VOLUNTEERS ARE ALREADY PAYING THEIR OWN TRAVEL, FOOD AND HOTEL.
LET'S JUST CALL AND ASK THEM, LOOK, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
WHAT DO YOU WANT? AND WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PRIORITY? GOT IT.
SO WHERE'S TIM? WHAT'S TIM'S NUMBER? OH, I HAVE, WAIT A MINUTE.
I HAVE IT HERE ON, YEAH, WE HAVE THE ORGANIZATION PHONE AND WE HAVE DON'S PHONE.
YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND ANY MORE DEDICATED PEOPLE THAN THAT GROUP.
I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ON THERE.
DON SPEAKING DONIE, THIS IS STEPHANIE AT, UM, A SMALL CITY OF SMALL GRANTS.
UM, LISTEN, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE WOULD LOVE TO FULLY FUND YOUR, YOUR TRAINING THING, BUT THAT JUST IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
I MEAN, WE DO, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND.
SO, UM, WITH WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO AWARD.
SO IF, IF SOMETHING'S I I, IN THE PAST, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN LIKE AN ALL OR NOTHING THING.
THE TRAINING WE'RE NOT SEEING IS THAT IN THAT, UM, IF WE HAVE TO TAKE SOMETHING, IF WE'VE GOTTA REDUCE YOU, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A FEW, YOU'VE GOT THE DOG TRAINING GOING ON,
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YOU'VE GOT THE ROPES TRAINING GOING ON, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER, THE THIRD ONE.SO, UH, HOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE YOU A HAIRCUT AND, AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PRIORITY IS THAT, THAT THE PRIORITY WOULD BE THE DOGS.
AND HOW MUCH ARE THE DOGS GONNA COST US? I MEAN, CAN IS THE DOG SCALABLE? MEANING, UM, IF, HOW NUMBER ONE, IF WE FUNDED, FULLY FUNDED THE DOG TRAINING.
DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER THERE? UH, I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
UM, UH, WELL THEIR TRAINING COSTS US $19,200 A YEAR.
SO, UM, SO EVEN SO EVEN IF WE GOT HALF, THAT WOULD GET US HALFWAY THERE.
SHE'S GOT CANINE TRAINING, CANINE TRAINING.
AND YEAH, WE WERE, WHAT WE DO IS WE WIND UP SPLITTING IT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REDUCE THE COST FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL.
SO, UM, IF WE, IF WE FULLY FUNDED THE CANINE TRAINING, THAT WOULD BE THE PRIORITY? I, I THINK SO, YES.
I WOULD SPLIT IT HALF TO DOGS AND HALF TO ROWS AND THEN TO MY TEAM.
NOBODY SUFFERS AND I CAN GET EVERYBODY SOMETHING.
SO, UH, THE SPECIALTY TRAINING'S SCALABLE ACROSS THE BOARD? ABSOLUTELY.
OKAY, DONNIE, WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RECONSIDERING IT.
OKAY, SO EVERYTHING'S SCALABLE.
UM, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS NUMBER GUYS.
UH, THE FOOD BANK, WHAT DO YOU THINK I CALL A 10? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SKIP DOWN TO WISDOM H AND PUT A ZERO THERE IF YOU WANTED TO.
WHY, WHY, WHY? WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR THAT? UM, THE PROJECTED IMPACT BASED ON NATIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO PROOF OF CONCEPT FOR THE SEDONA AREA ITSELF.
UM, THERE'S NO, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A LAUNCH OF A PROGRAM, NOT A CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PROVEN.
AND LAST OF ALL, THEY'VE GOT $450,000 IN THE BANK.
SO THEY CAN FUND THEIR OWN PROOF OF CONCEPT.
WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UM, MM-HMM,
IF THEY ACTUALLY LAUNCH AND COME BACK WITH SOLID METRICS.
MAYBE THAT WOULD REALLY WORK BETTER.
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YEAH.IF WE WEREN'T SO STRAPPED FOR FUNDS.
'CAUSE WITH LIKE 1501, WE WERE SKEPTICAL OF FIREFIGHTERS DOING YOGA.
WE GAVE THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SEED MONEY AND THEY CAME BACK AND THEY CAME BACK.
SO YOU'RE IN TROUBLED BY THAT, AREN'T YOU? AND STEPHANIE? NO, NO.
I'M TRYING TO HAVE PHRASE THIS.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY NEED, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN THE BANK, A LITTLE BIT OF SEED MONEY FROM US.
IT'S GONNA BE A MEANINGFUL AND WE NEED IT FOR, FOR THE OTHERS.
I WOULDN'T ACTUALLY PUT THAT FOUR 50 DOWN THERE.
I'D JUST SAY WHY? WELL, NO, YOU SAY, UM, PLENTY OF RESERVE CASH INSTEAD OF, I MEAN, THEY COULD ARGUE THE FOUR 50.
THEY SAID, WELL THAT'S AN OLD NUMBER.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU PUT DOWN.
I MEAN, YOU GAVE, YOU GAVE US THE NUMBER FOUR 50.
THAT'S, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS DID SAY AT LEAST 40% FOR ARTS.
AND THE REST AT YOUR DESCRIPTION.
YEAH, BUT WE HAVE NO AT NO DISCRETIONARY WE DESCRIPTION ANYMORE.
I KNOW, BUT I'M SAYING THAT, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE OUT.
WE JUST STARTED, YEAH, WE JUST STARTED SOCIAL SERVICES WHEN WE'RE ALREADY BROKE.
UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE, MAN? YEAH.
DO WE KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE WE'RE AT FOR OUR, WELL, YEAH.
SO WE HAVE 140 TO SPEND ON OUR, AND WE'RE ALREADY 20,000 WITH WHAT WE WANT, WITH WHAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED SO FAR.
SO, AND IF, IF WE TOOK THE 20,000 FROM OTHER 'CAUSE WE'RE WHERE WE KIND OF, WELL WE DON'T HAVE VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL.
UM, SO WE'RE, THAT WOULD GO AGAINST THIS.
SO IF WE TOOK WHAT, $20,000 WE HAVE LEFT IN DISCRETIONARY FUNDING.
I MEAN, LOOK, WE ONLY HAVE $30,000 LEFT AND WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF REQUESTS.
WE'VE GOT $150,000 IN REQUEST AND 30,000 TO COVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, HOWEVER YOU WANNA AT, WE HADN'T PUT A ZERO DOWN FOR WISDOM YET.
'CAUSE WE HAVE 28 FOR MANZANITA.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LIKE CUT MANZANITA TO 10, I THINK.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? OH, COME ON GUYS.
YEAH, WE CAN CUT OUT VALLEY CYCLISTS TOO.
OH HONEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SCALE.
THE ARTS ARE FUNDED PRETTY HIGH.
BUT WE CAN ONLY, WE COULD GET RID OF THAT 20 GRAND IN ARTS, BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM AT LEAST 140.
SO ALL WE CAN DO IN OURS IS RECOVER 20,000.
SO WHERE DO WE GO? UM, SYMPHONY, WE'RE GIVEN A HUNDRED PERCENT TO OKAY CHAMBER.
YOU KNOW, THE ARTS FESTIVAL, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT HE KIND OF SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT.
UM, WHY DID HE OH, OH, THE CONCEPT OF THE FREE THING.
HE SAID OKAY, WELL WE'LL GIVE A FREE TICKET.
UM, SO I ACTUALLY, WE'RE PROBABLY BEING GENEROUS.
DEATH, UH, THE FILM FESTIVAL, I, WE CAN'T, IF WE, SO WHATEVER WE DO THE FILM FESTIVAL CONCEPTUALLY, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THE SEDONA ART CENTER.
SO LET'S TACKLE SOME OF THESE OTHERS.
CHAMBER MUSIC'S AT A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THEM DOWN TO WHAT? 15.
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15.EMERSON UH, SYMPHONY IS THE OTHER ONE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YEAH, WE'RE 1 48 SO WE GOT EIGHT GRAND TO GO.
SO, UM, FILM FESTIVAL AND SEDONA ART CENTER.
WELL THE CARPET BAG BRIGADE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WHACK THEM.
UM, AND UH, I MEAN IF YOU JUST TAKE THREE GRAND OFF OF ART CENTER AND THREE GRAND OFF THE FESTIVAL, WE'RE THERE? YEP, YEP, YEP.
THAT'S THE DOLLAR VALUE WE'RE AIMING FOR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT NOW LET'S LOOK AT THIS BEFORE WE LEAVE IT.
'CAUSE ONCE WE LEAVE IT WE'RE DONE.
BECAUSE WE'RE DONE WITH ARTS, RIGHT? ARTS.
AND SAC I'M LOOKING, I'M GETTING THERE.
IT'S THE HEAT FROM MY FINGERS.
UM, NOW LET'S GO BACK A LITTLE BIT GUYS, BECAUSE WE REALLY HUGELY CUT BACK TO HUGE SIGNATURE EVENTS IN THE AREA, ALTHOUGH THERE IT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM IN THE PAST, BUT, MM-HMM.
WE HAVEN'T IMPROVED THE, THE ARTS MUCH AT ALL.
WELL THAT'S BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE CITY DID THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT.
PEOPLE CAME BACK WITH A BIGGER REQUEST.
THAT, THAT WAS TO BE EXPECTED.
I MEAN, LOOK AT HOW MUCH C INCREASE THEIR REQUESTS.
LOOK HOW MUCH, UH, THE STONE ART CENTER WAS INCREASE.
AND IF WE, IF WE ADD UP THE THREE, UM, CLASSICAL MUSIC ONES TOGETHER, ARE THEY ABOUT EQUIVALENT TO WHAT CMA SFA WAS GETTING? AND I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HERE IN MY HEAD.
BUT LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGES OF THEIR AS, THEY'RE PRETTY HIGH.
UM, THE LOWEST IS THE ART CENTER.
IT'S 36% OF THEIR ASK, BUT THE REST ARE 50% OR HIGHER, EVEN 80% OF THEIR ASK.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE ALL WE'D BE ABLE TO DO IS GO BACK AND TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER MM-HMM.
THAT'S A BIT HIGH, I THINK WHEN SHE'S ASKING FOR 13 FIVE.
I MEAN, COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY FEELING HERE WOULD BE TO GO BACK AND TAKE FROM THAT AND, BUT HER IMPACT IS ON PAR OR HIGHER THAN THE EMERSON AND THE REALLY ARTS ACADEMY.
I MEAN, EMERSON HAD LIKE, WHAT, 85 PEOPLE PIANO AND THE ROCKS HOLIDAY CONCERT ALONE WAS A HUNDRED FIFTY, EIGHTY FIVE AT THE CHILDREN'S? NO.
EMERSON'S GOT LIKE A CO 250, 300 PEOPLE.
SHE, THAT'S THE GUESS THAT IT WILL INCREASE BECAUSE THEY'RE USING LOCAL THEATERS.
UH, THEY HAD 85 PEOPLE LAST YEAR, SO IT'S A, A BIG JUMP.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE GOTTA GO OPTIMISM.
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EMERSON.UM, 8,000 OR 10? 10 OR EIGHT? 10, NINE.
ARE WE GOOD WITH NINE? YEAH, SURE.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN, WE CAN GO BACK TO OTHER AND CUT OUT VER VERDE VALLEY CYCLIST C COALITION DOWN TO HALF OF WHAT THEIR HALF THE BILLS.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A MEMORY AT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL.
SO OTHER WE HAD 1, 2, 3 FOLKS AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
CAN WE DO THE ARTS AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO, WE'LL DO THE ARTS WHERE WE GET THEM TO THE 140.
THEN WE'LL GET SOCIAL SERVICES WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN OTHER AND GO BING, BING, BING, BING, BING.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, BY CUTTING EMERSON, WE'RE DOWN 3000.
SO SOMEBODY GETS TO GO BACK UP.
WELL, I HAVE, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WHATEVER WE RECOVER FROM THIS HAIRCUT IS THAT WE PUT BETWEEN THE ART CENTER AND THE FILM FESTIVAL.
THE NUMBER WON'T BE QUITE AS SO PRETTY, BUT THAT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ARTS ACADEMIES AT 12 NOW AND WE CUT EMERSON DOWN TO NINE.
WELL, THE, THE ARTS ACADEMY HAD A BIGGER AUDIENCE IMPACT YEAH.
THAN EMERSON EMERSON'S ONE THAT HAD THE SMALL, WELL, AGAIN, THEY'RE SPECULATING THEIR AUDIENCE BECAUSE, AND THEY'RE SPECULATING GROWTH BY USING LOCAL PERFORMERS.
BUT ARTS ACADEMY DID BETTER THAN EMERSON.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN, DID BETTER IN NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THEIR EVENT.
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN FUND THEM LAST YEAR AT ALL.
THEY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PROJECT AND WE DIDN'T FUND THEM AT ALL.
SO, RADIO PROGRAM OR SOMETHING? YEAH.
PODCAST 12 IS 80% OF THEIR ASK.
IT IS STILL LIKE 67% OF THEIR ACT.
ALRIGHT, NOW, NOW WE HAVE $5,000 THAT WE CAN PUT BACK.
I WAS KIND NINE FIVE SURPRISED AT SOMETHING IN THEIR, IN, UH, ARTS ACADEMY'S PROPOSAL.
UH, WE ASKED THEM ABOUT, UM, LIKE A $9,000 FIGURE FOR, UH, HOTELS AND FOOD FOR THEIR PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN, YOU KNOW, THEIR SPECIALTY ARTISTS, UH, ACTORS AND SO ON.
AND, UM, I WAS KIND OF, AND SHE SAYS, YEAH, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND I KNOW IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
HAVE YOU OVER HUNDRED PER PERSON? BUT I MEAN, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.
BUT I WAS JUST HEARING FROM ANOTHER PERSON.
I KNOW THAT SHE PUTS UP, UH, CAMILLA'S ACTORS IN HER HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE OUT OF TALENT PERFORMERS, YOU KNOW, SHE SERVES THAT SHE HAS PEOPLE STAY WITH HER.
THAT'S KIND OF UP TO HER THOUGH, AS WELL.
I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE, OH, WELL I, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE COMING IN.
MAYBE IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN.
LIKE WE'VE BEEN, I THINK SHE'S, UH, SHE'S ASKING FOR MONEY FOR LODGING.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE CAN LOOK THAT.
I WOULDN'T, UH, I YEAH, IT IS HEARSAY.
BECAUSE I'M IMPRESSED WITH HOW WELL SHE, SHE MANAGES HER PROGRAMS AND HER.
SO IF WE TOOK OUR $2,500 AND PUT IT BACK TO 29 5.
WE'RE BALANCED HERE AND THEN WE CAN TAKE MONEY AND THROW IT BACK.
BUT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO AT VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL? UH, ARE WE, BETH, WHERE ARE THEY? THEY'RE ZERO AT THE MOMENT.
ARE THEY UNDER SOCIALS? THEY'RE UNDER OTHER, OTHER, OH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO OTHER NOW.
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THAT'S SCALABLE.SO WHAT WE 2,525 OR THREE? I'M GOING FOR 3 3 3 25.
LET'S DO SOMETHING WITH THE REPTILES.
WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE REPTILES.
SO BASICALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WAY THE CONTAINER IS NOW IS OKAY FOR SEEDS.
SORT OF, BUT DEFINITELY NOT OKAY.
SO THEY'RE COMPOSTING THEIR PRODUCE.
SO WHERE DOES THE PRODUCE GO? WELL, IT GOES, IT GOES TO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT GOES TO MARKET, WHICH IS THE REVENUE NUMBER.
AND SOME OF IT GOES TO MANZANITAS.
SOME OF IT GOES TO, I THINK, I THINK WE SH I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE SOME GOOD FAITH MONEY.
PUT IT IN BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA JUST TRASH THE GUY.
WELL, AND IT'S NOT THE GUY, BUT I DON'T WANNA TRASH THE ORGANIZATION THE EFFORT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE'S TRYING, HE'S WORKING HIS WAY INTO THE COMMUNITY.
HE'S DOING THE BEST HE CAN, YOU KNOW, TO GET INTO THE COMMUNITY.
I SAY TWO OR THREE AND IT'S WELL UNDER WHAT'S REQUESTED.
UH, AND MY GOD, WE'RE GIVING THE BRIDGE CLUB $3,000
THE BRI, I'M ONE MORE THOUSAND OFF.
IT'S LIKE, ON ONE HAND IT WAS.
I WANNA OFFER ONE MORE DAY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, SHE'S TELLING US, I'M, I DON'T HAVE ANY PLAYERS.
FIVE IS POPPING INTO MY HEAD, BUT, OKAY.
THREE OR THREE AVERAGE DOLLARS.
THAT'S NOT BAD FOR A FIRST ATTEMPT.
I JUST, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY, LOOK AT, I'M NOT, THEY COUNT THAT'S NEGATIVE.
HOW MANY BIRDS THERE? UH, LOW, LOW DEFINED IMPACT TO SEDONA.
AND, UM, LOW DEFINED IMPACT AND, UH, GOOD FAITH.
UH, FOR, UM, A FUTURE INCLUSION, I DID NOT WANT TO REDUCE VETERANS, BUT IF IT HELPS A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, WHERE'S THAT? VETERANS.
I HATE TO DO IT, BUT YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
HOW, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD EFFORT ON OTHER.
YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYONE'S BEEN CUTTING ESSENTIALLY.
'CAUSE WE HAD 300 PERCENTERS IN THERE.
SO I GUESS ALMOST ANOTHER 50 GRAND.
SO NOW DIVIDED BY, UM, ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO BACK TO HUMAN SERVICES.
WE SHOULD JUST FILL THEM IN AND THEN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
EVEN THE FOOD BANK WILL NEED TO COME DOWN.
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A HUNDRED PERCENT.WELL, I'M THINKING JUST 10 FOR STARTERS.
MANZANITA AND COMMUNITY ARE BOTH AT LIKE 83, 80 4% OF THEIR ASK.
SO 15, 10, 10 15 WOULD BE MORE THAN THAN THEY ASK.
OH, YOU KNOCKED IT DOWN TO 20.
WE STILL ONLY HAVE $48,000 LEFT.
THAT PUTS THEM AT 60% OF THEIR ASK.
10 FOR COMMUNITY FOOD BANK IS 83% OF THEIR ASK V SARS AT HALF.
YOU COULD MAYBE GO TO, LET'S GO TO 10 ON LISA.
WE GAVE THEM 13,000 LAST YEAR.
AND THE REASON I'M CALLING KEVIN, BECAUSE WE HAD A DISCUSSION YESTERDAY.
UNLESS YOU TALK ME, TALK ME OFF THE LEDGE HERE.
UM, KEVIN YESTERDAY SAID THAT HE, THAT IN THE, IN THEIR DODA, THEY SAID IF THEY DON'T GET FULL FUNDING, THEY'LL KILL THE PROGRAM.
AND I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY, THAT'S WHAT HE PUT, HE PUT IN THERE THAT THE MAY WOULD, WOULD LIKELY CHANGE TO A WILL WHEN IT COME, CAME TO ENDING THE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER FUNDING THAT WASN'T GONNA COME THROUGH.
CONTINUE THIS THE ONE THAT'S EXPANDING OTHER SITES ALSO, OR NO? UH, YEAH, I THINK THEY WERE.
I LIKE THE AFTER SCHOOL CONCEPT OF IT.
SOME PEOPLE CAN JOIN IT OR NOT STAY WITH IT.
ARE WE GOOD CALLING KEVIN? AND IF YOU WANT TO YEAH.
AS IF HE'S TRULY NOT SCALABLE.
WHERE MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES COVERING THE, THE YOUNGER KIDS.
BUT IF WE GIVE HIM LIKE, HE'S ASKING FOR 10.
IF WE GIVE HIM FIVE AND HE CAN'T PERFORM, THEN MM-HMM.
WE CAN'T DO YOUR CALL HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO AN AUTOMATED VOICE MESSAGING SYSTEM.
3 0 1 6 4 6 8 0 3 5 IS NOT AVAILABLE.
AT THE TONE, PLEASE RECORD YOUR MESSAGE.
WHEN YOU FINISH RECORDING, YOU MAY HANG UP OR PRESS ONE FOR MORE OPTIONS.
WOULD YOU GIVE ME A CALL? WE'RE IN DELIBERATIONS AND WE HAVE, UM, WE WANNA RUN SOMETHING BY YOU.
SO IF YOU GIVE US A HOLLER, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW IT SAYS IN LATE MARCH, 2024, KATINA NOTIFIED FUND IT'S MISSION FOCUS HAD CHANGED AND FUND NO LONGER QUALIFIES FOR FUNDING.
AS SUCH, KATINA FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR FUND TO APPLY IN OUR CITY GRANT APPLICATION AT THIS TIME AND MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, SO FUND IS CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL OVERCOME THE UNCERTAINTY CAUSED BY KATINA'S NOTIFICATION BY THE CITY'S 25 26 CITY GRANT PROGRAM TIMEFRAME.
BUT THE LATE NOTICE FOR THIS YEAR MAKES THE SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CITY AND INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTORS ESSENTIAL FOR PROGRAM SUCCESS.
THIS GRANT YEAR, WHILE WE HAVE WRITTEN IN THE PAST THAT PARTIAL
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FUNDING MAY RESULT IN PROGRAM CONSOLATION OR CURTAILMENT.IF WE ARE UNABLE TO MAKE UP THE CITY'S SHORTFALL, KATINA'S UNCERTAINTY MAKES IT HARDER TO NOT HAVE, MAY TURN INTO WILL IF THE CITY DECIDES TO PARTIAL FUND.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A, A PROBLEM THEY'RE SAYING THIS YEAR ONLY.
BECAUSE HE'S SAYING WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN OVERCOME THE KATINA THING FOR THE 25 26 CITY GRANT PROGRAM.
BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOTIFIED SO LATE BY KATINA THAT THEY'RE GONNA BIND THIS YEAR.
OKAY, WELL HE'LL CALL BACK NEXT, GO TO THE NEXT, NEXT ST.
THEY'RE HELPING A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT HELP FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
YOU'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE WHEEL PHONE.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MUCH, BUT NO, STILL 35.
DID IT START? THREE? THREE? I'M NOT ASKING FOR MUCH.
NOW THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS ONE IS THAT THIS IS SUCH, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS SUCH A TINY PERCENT OF THEIR BUDGET CANCER.
WELL, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE, THE ORGANIZATION BUDGET'S FOR THE ENTIRE STATE.
I MEAN, IT'S FOR A MUCH BROADER AREA.
I JUST, I THINK IT'S JUST FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA.
IT'S FOR THE HOME AND STATE CANCER SUPPORT COMMUNITY.
WELL, THEY'RE ASKING US TO FUND 46% OF THEIR BUDGET FOR SEDONA.
THE, UM, A LOT, SOME OF THEIR STUFF'S ONLINE AND THE PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO TRAVEL TO FLAGSTAFF.
LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 10, GETTING FIVE AND THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL NOW TO COTTONWOOD, WHICH ISN'T THE END OF THE WORLD.
I KNOW, BUT IN THIS LAST YEAR OR TO FLAGSTAFF.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE, I GUESS EVEN THOUGH HALF THE MONEY, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY NH TOO, I THINK.
ARE THEY REALLY GOOD? WELL, THAT'S NICE.
UM, 31 PATIENTS COULD SUPPORT FAMILY MEMBERS FOR HELP.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT FINANCIAL NEED NEEDS TO COME.
WHAT'S THEIR, UH, IT WAS 46% OF THEIR BUDGET FOR THE SEDONA PROGRAM.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY HAVE, BUT THEY HAVE, BUT THEY HAVE STATEWIDE SUPPORT.
AND THEY HAVE A MEDICAL, AN NAHI THINK THEY GET MONEY FROM NAHI COULD GO BACK TO FIVE.
I WROTE FINANCIAL NEED THE LOWEST.
I MEAN, NUMBER ONE, WHEN I I SEE THAT.
BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE OF THAT.
UM, IT'S LIKE BIG BROTHER BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS KIND OF, BUT, AND THEN THE IMPACT IS LOW.
HE GAVE A ONE ON FINANCIAL NEED.
WELL, AGAIN, I THINK WE GAVE, THEY ASKED FOR 10 LAST YEAR.
SO I, I'D SAY, I'LL SAY FIVE AT THIS MOMENT.
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YEAH.WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING 70? SERIOUSLY, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WELL, IF THIS IS ZERO FOR 46%, ZERO OR A THOUSAND SAYING, HEY, WELL WE SUPPORT YOU FOR BEING HERE, BUT WE JUST DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS.
BECAUSE THAT WILL PAY FOR THE WIGS.
IF THERE WERE 31 PATIENTS, 54 FAMILY MEMBERS HELPED THIS LAST YEAR, 31, IT'LL PAY, IT'LL HELP PAY FOR THE WIGS.
I MEAN, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING TO GET THE SERVICES.
THEY'RE GONNA BE OFFERED ANYWAY, THE GROUP THERAPY AND STUFF.
AND WE'RE PAYING FOR, WE'RE HELPING CANCER PATIENTS IN A PARTIAL, THEY DON'T, BUT THERE'S REIMBURSEMENT COMING FROM OTHER SOURCE.
THESE ARE NOT INDIGENT PATIENT PATIENTS NECESSARILY.
NOW THE WIGS ARE 1500 EACH OR THEY'RE FOR THEIR PROGRAM.
WELL, THAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM.
WELL THEN I THINK WE CHARGE IN 1500.
AND THEN 500 FOR OTHER SERVICES.
I THINK THAT'S MORE THAN FAIR GUYS.
I SUSPECT I OH NO, THAT IS GOOD.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE THREE TIMES THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE TRACKED THE PROGRAM AT ALL.
WE SURE HELP THEM ALONG LAST YEAR.
I WISH THEY, THEY'VE GOT THE METRICS.
THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING THEY'VE GOT.
IM FOUR BECAUSE WE GAVE THEM 5,000 OF SEED MONEY.
AND THEY, THEY PERFORM BEAUTIFULLY.
I'D LIKE TO SAY 10 GREAT METRICS.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM THE SAME VALUE THAT WE GAVE AS SEED MONEY.
I WISH THEY'D LAST MORE THAN A YEAR.
BUT I, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT THEY JUST WANT NEW, BUT THIS KIDS, I MEAN, THEY'VE THROWN THEM DOWN THE STAIRS.
THEY WALK ON 'EM, THEY KICK 'EM.
AND I MEAN, KIDS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKELY CHINESE BACKPACKS.
THEY'RE COURSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T LAST.
LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 9,000.
WE GAVE THEM FOUR SEVEN THIS YEAR.
THEY, THEY ONLY WENT UP FROM NINE TO 10,000 705 5 FOR, FOR NOW.
UM, SAILFISH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.
I DON'T, I JUST DIDN'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT ONE.
I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT REAL REASONS BEFORE I ARTICULATE ANYTHING.
BUT IT JUST, IT SEEMED, UM, I THINK HER HARD, IT DID SEEM CONCRETE ENOUGH TO ME SOMEHOW.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, UM, SHE, SHE JUST NEEDS HELP CRAFTING THE PROGRAM MORE, UM, CONCRETELY BEFORE, UH, BECAUSE LAST YEAR I HELPED HER WITH THE TODDLER THING.
UM, SHE DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB WITH THAT.
AND I THINK SHE'S CAPABLE OF DOING THE SAME THING WITH THE, UM, I THINK SHE'S GOT A GOOD CONCEPT.
SHE JUST NEEDS TO PULL IT TOGETHER.
I WAS CONFUSED WHEN YOU ADDED THE DRY LAND PART.
WELL, I GOT VERY CONFUSED WITH HANNAH.
WELL, I THINK WE JUST, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANY PERSONALLY.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING HERE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT TWO REQUEST.
SO HER REQUEST RIGHT NOW IS SWIM LESSONS FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL.
HIGH SCHOOL'S COVERED BY THE SCHOOL.
WAIT, SO SHE CAN'T MIX OR REMEMBER THAT.
IT'S THE, UM, THE, THE ONES, THE GAP, THE SERVICE GAP IS THE KIDS FROM EIGHT HERE.
SO IT'S THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S, IT'S THE SIXTH TO EIGHT.
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KIDS IN THE WATER NOW.UM, BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE, AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT'S THE SAME THING AS THE BIKE PROGRAM FOR THE, THESE 15 KIDS.
IT'S THE SAME THING FOR THE BIKE PROGRAMS, WHICH, UM, LIKE THE MOUNTAIN BIKE CLUB, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE THEM A HUGE HAIRCUT TOO.
IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT AS THE BIKE CLUB AND THE SAME NUMBER OF KIDS.
AND HER PROGRAM DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME METRICS.
I THOUGHT THAT THE METRICS, YOU KNOW, BUT SHE'S JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE ERIC AND THOSE GUYS A HAIRCUT TOO.
AND THEY'RE MUCH FURTHER ALONG IN THEIR PROGRAM AND PLANNING.
SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO GET THERE SOMEHOW.
I DON'T THINK SHE'LL BE, IT'S NOT AS CLEAR TO ME AT ALL.
WHAT, OKAY, ED, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER SOMETHING.
NO, I, I GO FIVE OR SIX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I FIVE, I'VE GOT TWO FIVES.
SO BEFORE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY FALL IN THE WATER AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO SWIM THIS TIME, IT'S ABOUT DEVELOPING SELF-CONFIDENCE, SELF-CONFIDENCE AND STUFF, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THE BICYCLE.
IT'S A SPORT THAT GIVES THEM THE CONFIDENCE TO, YOU KNOW, EXCEL IN OTHER AREAS.
I, I, I IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME CONCEPT AS THE BIKING PROGRAM.
COULD WE PUT FIVE DOWN FOR NOW? ALRIGHT, FIVE DOWN FOR NOW.
BUT HER, WHY IS HER ASK 25,000? I GOTTA REMEMBER THAT.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT, ISN'T IT? I'M TRYING TO GET A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE POOL.
DOESN'T THE CITY? NO, THE CITY DOES NOT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THE CITY.
SHE'S GOT A RENT POOL FROM THE CITY.
PLUS DOESN'T, I'M KEEP PEOPLE OPEN.
LIKE, I DON'T THINK SHE CAN DO, I THINK SHE'S GOTTA PAY LIFEGUARDS TOO.
HER, HER BIGGEST EXPENSE IS SALARIES.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT.
I THINK WE COULD SUGGEST TO THE CITY THAT SHE NOT BE CHARGED TO RENT THE POOL.
WELL, I THINK WE'VE TRIED THAT IN THE PAST.
I DON'T THINK THAT WHOLE, THERESA DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO THE WHOLE POOL THING? I DON'T.
UM, HOW ABOUT THE REC LADY? CAN WE TALK TO THE REC LADY? IS SHE AROUND FIRST REC? YEAH.
WHO'S THE REC PERSON? THAT'S JASON.
THE BIG THING IS THE SALARIES.
WHO ARE YOU PAYING FOR? WELL, HER TOO.
I THINK SHE'S GETTING SOME OF THAT.
SHE HAS, ACCORDING TO HER STAFF, SHE HAS ONE PART-TIME PERSON, PAID PART-TIME PERSON.
AND, AND WHAT ONE PAID PART-TIME.
WHAT THE SALARY WAGES HER, WASN'T IT? THAT'S HER.
AND THEN, YEAH, UNDER HER EXPENSES SHE HAS 22,500 UNDER SALARIES, WAGES, BENEFITS, AND OTHER RELATED COSTS.
AND THEN WHAT DID ANY CONSULTANTS? CONSULTANTS ARE A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
DOES SHE HAVE INSURANCE FOR THE SERVICE? INSURANCE IS 1700.
HOW MUCH IS THE INSURANCE AND THE LIFEGUARDS? UH, IF YOU COMBINE THEM, IT IS 2,700 THAT, SEE, THAT'S, I'M THINKING WE PAY FOR THAT THREE.
BUT SHE'S GOTTA COME UP WITH HER BIG SALARIES.
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WELL, WHOEVER THAT IS, CAN WE KIND OF CONFIRM THAT AND WHAT THAT SALARY ACTUALLY IS, BUT WITH THE NARRATIVE PERHAPS? OR WHAT'S HER NUMBER? OH, WITH THE NARRATIVE.WHAT'S HER NUMBER? DOES THE NARRATIVE STAND? OH, HER PHONE NUMBER.
SO YOU GOT 9 2 8 2 5 4 MM-HMM.
I CAN GIVE YOU, SHE HAS ANOTHER PHONE NUMBER.
IT'S HER PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER.
NINE TWO EIGHT NINE TWO EIGHT SEVEN ONE THREE FOUR EIGHT TWO FOUR.
HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I AM DOING WELL.
WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
WE'RE AS ALWAYS, WE HAVE NO MONEY.
SO WE'RE STRUGGLING HERE TO, TO TRY TO MAKE ENDS MEET ON THESE REQUESTS.
WHAT THE SALARY THAT YOU, YOU HAVE DOWN IN YOUR PROGRAM, A SALARY OF 22,000 AND SOME CHANGE? UH MM-HMM.
WHO IS THAT? IS THAT YOU? THAT IS ME AND SEAN.
AND, AND WHAT DOES SEAN DO? HE IS THE HEAD COACH THAT, UM, HE HAS GOT THE MOST EXPERIENCE.
HE DESIGNS A LOT OF THE DRY LAND.
HE'D ALSO BE TAKING SESSIONS AT THE POOL.
UM, HE'D BE DOING SOME OF THE LIFEGUARDING.
AND IT'S ALSO FOR LIFEGUARDS ALSO.
HOW MANY LIFEGUARDS DO YOU HAVE? UM, IT, IT JUST DEPENDS.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE, UM, FOR, FOR THE POOL.
SO I, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 25,000.
SO WHAT, UM, WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR PROGRAM IF YOU DON'T GET THE 25,000? UM, PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS JUST TRY TO WORK IT IN WITH OUR CURRENT PULL TIME TO CUT SOME EXPENSES.
WELL, YOU CAN, IT, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT NOT MAKE IT ALL, YOU KNOW, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, BECAUSE, UM, TO HAVE THE SEPARATE FULL TIME AND TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PAY PEOPLE TO BE HERE, TO DO THE PROGRAM.
IT'S GONNA BE REALLY, LIKE, REALLY DIFFICULT.
I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT, WE CAN DO LIKE HALF A PROGRAM,
WE DO IT NEW ONCE OF THE YEAR, BUT I LIKE, TRY NOT TO BE EXORBITANT ABOUT ANYTHING.
I KNOW JODY, BUT I GOTTA, AND I, YEAH, AND I TOOK THE FIGURES THAT YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT FOR PAYING, UM, PERSONNEL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD BE THIS UGLY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY UGLY.
UM, AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE, I MEAN, WE CAN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO FUNDING HALF.
SO UHHUH WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, WELL, I MEAN, NOT EVEN, WHAT AM I, WHAT AM I, I I, I MEAN, I CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WORK WITH, IF YOU THROW OUT A NUMBER OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN REASONABLY DO, I CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO EMAIL YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN DO
I MEAN, I DON'T, BUT JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING IN THE HOLE AND VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME.
I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY COVER YOUR, THE EXPENSES THAT YOU HAVE DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE YOUR, LIKE YOUR 2,500 BUCKS.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN COVER ANY SALARIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO DO FUNDRAISING FROM A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OR SOMETHING.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GUYS LIKE, SAY 2,500 AND THEN LIKE, WE CAN'T GET THE REST OF THE FUNDS TO MAKE IT, WE JUST LIKE GET THE MONEY BACK.
BECAUSE IF THAT'S NOT EVEN IF, IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU CAN'T FUNDRAISE IT, I THINK WE'RE JUST, WE JUST MIGHT HAVE TO PASS THIS YEAR UNTIL YOU CAN, YOU CAN UM, YOU KNOW, GET SOME OTHER FINANCIAL ENGINE GOING FOR THE PROGRAM.
'CAUSE THE CITY JUST CAN RIGHT.
THE CITY CANNOT FLOAT THE BOAT FOR A WHOLE PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS OUR OWN POOL
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TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.OR YOU KNOW, ONE WHERE WE HAVE, WHERE WE HAVE MORE ACCESS AND YEAH.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN PEOPLE WANNA SWIM.
WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, THANKS FOR TRYING
IT'S FUNNY THAT THE, WHEN THEY BUILT THE, THE SEDONA RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, THAT THEY DIDN'T PUT A, THEY DON'T HAVE A POOL IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY HAVE THIS ENORMOUS, GORGEOUS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A POOL.
NO, I WOULDN'T, BUT THAT'S ME.
STEPS IS, WHAT WAS IT? LIKE SIX PEOPLE? OH, LIKE TWO, SIX PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT VERY MUCH IMPACT, IS IT? NO, BUT STILL, WELL, WE CAN PUT IN 10 AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
OR SIX IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS SIX.
MY GUT TELLS ME FIVE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT MORE THAN THAT.
WHAT'S OUR BUDGET? 140 WE'RE THERE'RE ALMOST THERE.
WE, IN FACT, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND PUMP UP SOME OTHER FOLKS.
WE GOT $10,000 TO, WELL WE STILL HAVE WHEEL FUND AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 10,000.
I MEAN, THEY'RE A HIGHLY PROVEN PROGRAM THAT ARE IN THE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT ALMOST $60,000.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE WILL FUND EIGHT AND HOPE THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE TWO GRAND TO KEEP THEMSELVES AFLOAT.
I, YEAH, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.
THEY'RE IN A BIND THIS YEAR AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY'LL, I MEAN THEY EXPECT, THEY'RE WELL PROVEN AND THE PROGRAM JUST CONTINUES TO GROW AND MM-HMM.
OKAY, SO WE'RE UP TO WHAT, 99,000? WAIT A MINUTE.
SO I'M COMING UP WITH A SUM OF 99,000.
WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
OH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE SUM OF, OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES.
WHAT DO YOU, YOU, IS THAT THE 138 YOU HAVE? YEAH.
OH, HERE WE, WE GO, WE GOT 41,000 THAT WE GOTTA DO TO SOCIAL SERVICES.
SO NOW WE GOT SOME ROOM TO PLAY.
SO NOW DO WE GET SAILFISH BACK ON THE BOARD? BUT SHE NEEDS SO MUCH, SHE NEEDS SO MUCH TO ACTUALLY DO, DO ANYTHING.
STILL IF WE GIVE HER JUST A PARTIAL, WE MIGHT JUST GET IT BACK LATER IN THE YEAR.
SHE'S GOTTA HAVE SOME OTHER FINANCIAL ENGINE.
WE CAN'T, I JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE TO FLOAT THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
SHE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S A SPECIALIZED PROGRAM AND SHE HAS NO OTHER FUNDRAISING, NO OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE.
SHE NEEDS TO GO OUT AND GET SOME OTHER FINANCIAL ENGINE GOING.
THIS MIGHT BE THE IMPETUS TO GET THAT GOING.
SO THE NEXT CANCER IS THE NEXT LOWEST.
WE ONLY GAVE THEM 20% OF THEIR ASK, BUT AS YOU SAID, THEY'VE GOT A BIG ORGANIZATION BEHIND THEM STILL.
I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO FIVE FOR THEM.
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MM-HMM.SO NOW THE TOP THREE MANZANITA, WE GAVE THEM 60% OF THEIR ASK COMMUNITY FOOD BANK.
BUT VSAR, WE ONLY GAVE THEM 50%.
NO, WE GAVE THEM MORE THAN THAT.
CAN WE TAKE VS R UP TO 12? I'M NOT SURE THAT IT, IT DOES HELP.
SINCE THEY'RE LIKE THE THE THIRD TOP RIGHT.
YEAH, WE'RE STILL, WE STILL GOT 36,000.
UM, ALRIGHT GUYS, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT HERE.
WE GOT 50,000, SO WE'VE GOT 80,000 LEFT.
LET'S, LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS.
I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT, UM, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS BASED ON CITY PRIORITIES, BASED ON OUR COMMUNITY.
WHERE'S OUR, WHERE'S OUR EMPHASIS? I MEAN, THE EMPHASIS IS ON INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I SHOULD JUST SHUT UP AND WE'LL DO THAT.
DO YOU GO BY THE HIERARCHY OF NEED? FOOD IS UP THERE PRETTY HIGH.
THE FOOD BANK AT 12, THE FOOD BANK WERE ALREADY FUNDED AT 83% OF THEIR ASK.
WE COULD GO UP ON MANZANITA THERE.
NOW THEY'RE AT 75% OF THEIR ASK.
UM, WE'VE REALLY, I'M PER ANGELO EMPLOYER.
LET, WE SHOULD GO BACK UP TO THAT MORE.
UH, GET HER UP TO YOU WANNA BRING HER TO 10? 10? I THINK SO.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD GROUP.
NOW EVERYBODY'S LOOKING A LITTLE MORE DECENT.
NOW WE'RE, HOW ABOUT, UM, 15, 15 0 1 12.
AND THE ONLY REASON SHE'S WE CUT HER IS THE FACT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S SERVING US, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN, JUST A CERTAIN, AND WE CAN BUMP UP STREET HEAT TOO.
I THINK WE CAN, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THE T IS, IT'S THE CROSS.
IT'S THE CROSS THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE T.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER THEIR, WAIT A MINUTE, WE STILL HAVE MONEY.
IF YOU REMEMBER THEIR EXPENSE SHEET AND SO ON.
A LOT OF THEIR EXPENSES WAS LIKE THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPENSES.
AND I, I BELIEVE THEIR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MAKING EVERY, AND THEY WORK, THEY WORK REALLY HARD.
DID YOU READ THEIR LAST YEAR'S, UH, REPORTS? THEY, THEY INCLUDED EVERY SINGLE RECEIPT THAT THEY OH YEAH.
WHERE? OH, YOU WANNA GIVE 'EM A HUNDRED PERCENT? WHERE ARE WE? I DON'T THINK SO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, NO, THEY'RE NOT RANKED AT THE TOP.
I WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE 'EM 10 ACTUALLY.
WHERE WE'RE AT, BECAUSE CANCER IS, IS IN THE MIDDLE.
AND WE ONLY GAVE THEM 50% OF THEIR ASK.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT RANKING AND THEY'VE
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GOT, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT, THEY HAVE OTHER RESOURCES.APPARENTLY LAST YEAR WITH FIVE.
AND STEPS IS AT 30% OF THEIR ASS.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT CANCER IS THEY'RE A SMALLER COMMUNITY.
THE PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO TRAVEL FOR THE SERVICES.
THEY'RE NOT COMING HERE, YOU KNOW.
AND THEY'VE GOT, UM, SO IT'S A GOOD, IT IS GOOD.
UM, I THINK WE'RE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT.
WELL ACTUALLY, IF WE GIVE CANCER 6,000, $1,000 MORE, THEY'RE IN LINE WITH GARDENS AND 1501 AT LIKE 60% OF THEIR ASKING.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE STICKING OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.
ARE THEY? WELL, YEAH, FROM A STATISTICAL STANDPOINT,
BUT, BUT WHAT ABOUT FROM A SOCIAL STANDPOINT? RIGHT.
HOW MANY PATIENTS DO THEY HAVE? THEY ONLY HAD 80 30.
54 FAMILY MEMBERS WERE JUST ONE.
WELL THAT'S WAY HIGHER THAN, I THINK WE'RE BEING GENEROUS WITH FIVE BECAUSE ONLY HAD, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE, HONESTLY, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OFFERING THE SERVICES LOCALLY.
THEY'RE THESE PEOPLE, IF THEY WANT THE SUPPORT, THEY GOTTA HAUL THEIR BUTTS UP THE FLAG.
THE REASON THEY ASKED FOR 10 WAS TO HAVE LOCAL STAFF.
BUT, BUT THEY THEY DID, BUT THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
AND THEY LOST THEIR, THEY LOST IT.
THEY LOST THEIR PLACE WHERE THEY WERE, THEIR PLACE TO MEET.
AND I, THEY'RE MOSTLY GETTING THEIR SERVICES UP IN FLAG.
THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR LOCAL.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AS USUAL, UH, WE'RE BROKE HERE.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHEEL FUND.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, HANG ON, I'LL PUT YOU ON SPEAKER.
UH, IN YOUR, IN YOUR REQUEST THIS YEAR, YOU HAD INDICATED THAT, UM, THAT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF KATINA FUNDING, THAT WHEEL FUND MIGHT END UP GOING AWAY IF YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO HOW, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY REGAL ROOM IF YOU DO NOT GET YOUR FULL GRANT WHERE WHEEL FUND GO AWAY? IS IT ALL OR NOTHING? NO, IT'S NOT ALL OR NOTHING MIGHT, UH, WHAT, WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IS WE MIGHT HAVE TO STOP IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THE FALL, BUT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PULL OFF THE SPRING.
I THINK THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO KNOW.
WE JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE JUST CONCERNED ENOUGH.
'CAUSE YOU'VE NEVER USED THAT LANGUAGE BEFORE.
WELL, I'VE NEVER BEEN THAT CONCERNED BEFORE.
I THINK WE FIND THE, I I DO TOO.
WHERE ARE WE AT? WE ARE NOW AT 1 23.
OH, HOW DID, HOW COME WE'RE DIFFERENT AGAIN.
ARE WE GOOD? AM I OFF? WHAT HAPPENED? I'M AT 1 23 5.
WERE YOU TRACKING IT? I DID IT JUST IN MY HEAD EARLIER.
OH, I GAVE, WHO IS THERE A NUMBER THAT'S OFF 7,500 FOR ST.
MANZANITA 25, THEN I HAVE 10, 10, 12, 10, 10, 10, 10 75.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I THOUGHT WE AGREED ON THE EIGHT.
YEAH, BECAUSE 10 WOULD BE 93% OF THEIR ASK.
AND THEY'RE IN THE BOTTOM HALF.
SO EIGHT, IF THEY'RE, WE OUGHT TO GO TO 10 FOR STEPS THEN.
SO AS LONG AS WE'RE BACK, THE MATH MATCHES.
WELL, ALTHOUGH A THOUSAND PER PERSON SOUNDS REASONABLE.
SO IT DOES, IT DOES FOR, YOU KNOW.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT SAILFISH.
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NO, I THINK SEARCH AND RESCUE, SHE'S JUST NOT READY.AND IF SEARCH AND RESCUE, THEY'RE IN THE TOP THREE AND WE'RE ONLY GIVING THEM 60%.
I WOULD BE SO HAPPY IF WE INCREASED THAT 15 MM-HMM.
VINCENT IS STILL 2,500 SHORT FROM WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.
MAN'S DO WE GO BACK TO THE FOODS? YEAH.
28 IS NOW 84% OF THEIR ASK, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH COMMUNITY FOOD BANK.
LET'S GIVE THEM, THEY'RE THE, I THINK THEY'RE THE ONE OF THE MOST DESERVING, BUT MANZANITA? NO, LISA.
ARE YOU FULLY FUNDING LISA? A HUNDRED PERCENT UHHUH.
I MEAN, YOU CAN REMEMBER, UH, THEY, THEIR COSTS FOR COVERING WEST ALONE WAS AROUND 30.
SO THEY'RE ONLY ASKING US FOR 12 FIVE.
YOU GONNA GIVE ME ANITA 30? NO, I LIKE TO KEEP 'EM IN LINE WITH COMMUNITY FOOD BANK.
NOW THEY'RE BOTH AT 84% AND HE AND MANZANITA CAN PROVE THOSE SEDONA NUMBERS.
LIKE YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
MAYBE THAT'S THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM.
SO NOW WE'RE GIVING GARDENS 89% OF THEIR ASK PARINGS AT 67% OF THEIR ASK.
AND THEY'RE EQUIVALENT 12 FOR PARAL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW GARDENS CAN DO IT FOR, FOR THAT MORE MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN DO IT.
LET'S GIVE, LET'S FULLY FUND GARDENS.
DOES IT HAVE TO SAY IN SOCIAL SERVICES? YES.
FROM BOTH MANZANITA AND COMMUNITY? WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE MOUNTAIN CLUB.
I WAS GONNA SAY THEY'RE AT THE BOTTOM, BUT THEY'RE ONLY GETTING 50% OF THEIR HOUSE.
SO WE'RE NOT THERE NOW WE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD THING.
SO I'M, WE'RE REALLY CLOSE ON SOCIAL SERVICES.
SO WHAT I'M SEEING IS PERSONALLY TAKEN THE 50 GRAND WE HAVE AND PUT IT IN AN ARTS.
OR LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER FOR A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S GO BACK TO OTHER, LET'S JUST GO BACK TO THAT.
AND THEN WHATEVER WE HAVE LEFT AFTER WE BEAT UP OTHER GOES TO ARTS.
SO THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING AS BAD AS THEY WERE.
WE'RE FEELING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO UNDER OTHER, UH, KEEPS IT ON A BEAUTIFUL, OKAY.
CAN YOU GO AHEAD TALK THIS OUT? JUST LEMME KNOW WHAT YOU CHANGE WHEN WE GET IS RANKED NUMBER NUMBER THREE.
UM, BUT WE ONLY GAVE THEM 29% OF THEIR ASS.
'CAUSE WHICH ONE CHRISTINE, KEEP SEDONA.
THEY WERE RANKED HIGH, BUT WE ONLY GAVE THEM 29% OF THEIR
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ASS.BUT I THINK WE JUSTIFIED THAT.
'CAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE FOURTH OF THEIR GARDEN DONE.
SO WE WENT WITH ONE SIGN TO GO WITH THAT ONE FOURTH.
SO THAT, THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.
BUT DON'T THEY PLAN TO HAVE THE REST OF IT DONE? THEY DO PLAN TO HAVE IT DONE AND YEAH.
SO, AND THERE'S SUCH A, UM, WELL-RESPECTED, WELL-KNOWN, REPUTABLE.
BUT I THINK WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THAT ONE.
IT WAS 'CAUSE THEY COULDN'T DEFINE THEIR IMPACT TO RESIDENT.
UM, WE GAVE SAFCO 80% OF THEIR ASK.
WE'RE ALL OVER THE BOARD HERE WITH THE OTHERS.
YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE SAFCO THE WHOLE THING.
AND IF THE BIKE BELLS, WE, THEY RANKED HIGH.
AND A LOT OF EM'S, NOT A LOT OF, WE'RE NOT SEEING, WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT MANY BILLS.
WE'RE NOT SEEING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF BILLS.
ARE WE? I THINK PEOPLE ARE TAKING THEM THINK ON POCKETS.
SO, AND I, I JUST THINK THAT I, I BELIEVE IN BESS, BELIEVE ME.
BUT, UM, I THINK THERE'S GOTTA BE MAYBE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT THAN JUST CLICK ON AND HELP YOURSELF KIND OF THING.
SO THAT THE REPTILES WAS THE BRAND NEW EXPO.
WE DID GIVE THEM 67% OF THEIR ASK THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY.
WE GAVE THEM 62% OF THEIR ASK.
WE ONLY GAVE 'EM 40% OF THEIR ASK.
I KIND OF LIKE THE NUMBERS THE WAY THEY ARE ACTUALLY I DO TOO.
WHICH MEANS TO WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE.
IT'S AT OUR DISCRETION, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO THE ONLY THING WE WANTED TO DO HERE WAS BUMP UP SAFCO.
WHAT WE DO, ALL WE WANTED TO DO WAS BUMP UP SAFCO TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE WERE PRETTY HAPPY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE'S AS IS.
SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO SCO TO PULL THEM UP TO THE TOP? A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THEY ARE RANKED NUMBER ONE'S FINE.
YOU'RE GONNA SHORT 'EM THAT $1.
ALRIGHT, SO WE GOT ALMOST $50,000.
UM, SO LET'S, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CREATE, WE'LL MAKE THAT REMAINING ZERO IN ARTS A NEGATIVE 48 7 59.
AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE MATH.
YOU WERE GONNA DO WHAT? WELL MAKE THIS NUMBER A RED 48.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT.
OH, AND THEN UP AND MAKE IT RED UP.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, WHEN WE HAVE LUNCH AND STICKING AROUND AND HELPING ME WITH THE, THE EXPLANATION.
I'M ALWAYS SO IMPRESSED WITH HOW YOU DO THAT.
I MEAN, I HAD DO A VACUUM HERE.
OH, LISTEN, YOU HAVE A WAY TO JUST VERY CONCISELY AND POSITIVELY STATE THINGS.
ONE OF MY FAVORITES LAST YEAR WAS HAVING THE DOG ON THIS SIDE OF IMUS, SAVING AN HOUR OR TWO AND GETTING THAT SEARCH HELP.
UM, OKAY, SO, OKAY, UH, NOW, SO WE'VE GOT 48 AND, UM, SO C IS RANKED NUMBER
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TWO AND WE ONLY GAVE THEM 53% OF THEIR ASK.IF WE DO, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WAS A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN C AND THE ART CENTER? I, NO, THEY DIDN'T.
I THINK CIF MAKES A BIGGER IMPACT AND THE FACT THEY'RE GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND OKAY.
AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THE SEDONA ARTS FESTIVAL, WE COULD BUMP THEM UP A LITTLE BIT, I THINK BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEIR PAST EXPENSES HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN.
OH, THAT DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH MONEY.
NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT A NEGATIVE 48.
SO I SAY WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SIF.
WHICH ONE? LET'S JUST KEEP GOING.
I MEAN, WE SAW PLENTY OF MONEY.
YEAH, HE'S HE'S ALREADY AT 7, 8, 5.
YOU WANNA PUT HIM AT UH, NOT NINE? I WOULDN'T, NO EIGHT.
HE'S RANKED ON THE LOWER HALF.
DON'T YOU WANNA LEAVE HIM AT SIX FOR NOW? ALRIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, YOU WANT EIGHT? 10? EIGHT OR NINE? I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT TO 10.
THAT IS, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IT'S A COMPLETELY UNIQUE, I THINK MM-HMM.
THE YOUNGER FOLKS ARE DEFINITELY, I MEAN, THAT'S ONLY SHORTING 1400 BUCKS.
THE 14 YOUNGER FOLKS THAT LIVE IN SEDONA,
I LIKE CHRISTINE'S STANCE ON THIS ONE.
WE, BUT UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD TAKE THE FILM FESTIVAL UP A LITTLE FURTHER AND I THINK WE CAN TAKE THE ARTS FESTIVAL UP.
I MEAN THE, NOT THE FESTIVAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, CENTER.
WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY ELSE AT BETWEEN 80 AND 90% OF THEIR ASKS.
EXCEPT FOR SIF, THE ART CENTER.
DON'T TAKE, DON'T THROW ME UNDER THE BUS.
WELL, LET'S TAKE THEM TO 40 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
ARE WE OKAY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE? OR WHO DO WE WANT TO, EMERSON OR ANY OF THESE OTHER? YOU'RE 15.
IS IT 40? I JUST PUT HIM UP TEMPORARILY.
DO YOU WANT, CAN, CAN WE AT 40? YEAH.
CAN WE GIVE ARTS AND EMERSON ANOTHER THOUSAND? YES.
EMERSON IS THE ONE THAT'S REALLY REACHING FROM 87 PEOPLE.
THEY'RE HOPING THEY'LL GET TO 200.
WE'LL LEAVE THEM RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.
I, I THINK WE GO BETWEEN THE FILM FESTIVAL IN THE ART CENTER.
I WANNA THROW SOMETHING IN HERE.
MAYBE WE GO, I THINK WE, MAYBE THE ARTS FESTIVAL.
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THEY'RE RANKED NUMBER ONE AND THEY HAVEN'T TALK TO ME.WELL, I THINK THE, I THINK THE FILM FESTIVAL GETS A LOT MORE PUBLICITY.
ALTHOUGH I THINK THE ART CENTER REALLY CONTRIBUTES A LOT.
SO EVEN THOUGH ON PAPER THEY'RE EACH GETTING 40 GRAND, IT'S 73% OF CS ASK AND 53% OF THE ART CENTERS ASK.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
THEY LOOK AT I THINK ASK, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS.
WHY, WHY WAS SA WHY DID SA WHY DID S END UP SO LOW? WHERE, OR I MEAN, I CAN OPEN UP THE, THE, HERE LET ME OPEN UP.
I RANKED THEM VERY, VERY HIGH ACTUALLY.
BUT, UM, AS I ASSUME THEIR FINANCIAL NEED WAS LOW.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S ONE REASON.
IF YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF ENERGY, YOU COULD BREAK FOR LUNCH AND THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT THE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND THE SALAD IS NICE AND COLD AND CRISP.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST THROW THIS OUT FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT AS THEY'RE EATING THEIR LUSCIOUS BANDAGES AND THINGS.
UM, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE ZEROS THAT WE HAVE TOO.
JUST, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH JUSTIFICATION TO CALL THEM ZERO.
IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED HERE TODAY, WE WERE REALLY SEARCHING WHERE ARE WE EVER GONNA COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO FUND THESE THINGS.
AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE IN A BETTER PLACE, LIKE A BUNCH.
BUT THEN ARE THE ZEROS REALLY? SHOULD THEY BE ZEROS? I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
WE'LL, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I KNOW WHAT MY IMMEDIATE REACTION IS.
THAT'S MY, IT'S A MATTER OF JUSTIFICATION, I THINK, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD JUSTIFICATION.
ONE THING, ISN'T IT? STATE OUR CASE.
SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE DELIBERATIONS.
ZOOMING AFTER THE LUNCH BREAK.
WELL, WE LEFT OFF, WE HAVE $8,000 TO, UM, ALLOCATE.
87, 59 ACTUALLY TO ALLOCATE SOMEWHERE.
WE WERE HAPPY WITH SOCIAL SERVICES, I THINK, AND WE WERE HAPPY WITH OTHER, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
WHERE DO, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT? OKAY.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, ARTS ARE ALL 70% AND UP FUNDED FROM THEIR ASKS EXCEPT FOR THE ART CENTER.
OTHER WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT I THINK WE WERE SATISFIED WITH THEM.
UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, OTHER REASONS WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS DURING THE RECOMMENDATION PORTION.
UH, PATTY WAS, UM, MENTIONING, UH, HER CONCERN ABOUT THE ZEROS AND WANTED TO MAYBE RE REVISIT THOSE.
AND, UM, I HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT STEPS TO RECOVERY, BUT I'M BACKING BACK OFF OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FREAKING SIX PEOPLE.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY NOT IN THE, YOU KNOW, WEIGH IN YOU GUYS, BUT, UM, I JUST CAN'T, I MEAN, MAYBE ANOTHER 200 PER PERSON.
SO MAYBE 68 OR
THAT'S 1200 PER PERSON FOR THOSE CLASSES.
UM, THAT BUMPS UP TO 34% OF THEIR F BUT IT, IT'S FOR SIX PEOPLE.
THAT'D BE 72, WOULDN'T IT? YEAH.
AND PERSONALLY, I THINK THE 15 0 1 IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS, BUT THAT'S ME.
THEY'RE 4,000 LESS, BUT, AND THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF CLASSES.
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I'M NOT SURE WE HEARD HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS? ACTUALLY 1500 FIREFIGHTERS.SHE, SHE DID, SHE MENTIONED IT MORE THAN ONE.
I THINK IT'S 1500 FIREFIGHTERS THERE.
BUT HOW MANY ACTUALLY ATTEND YOUR CLASSES? ALMOST.
I TELL YOU WHAT I'M TELLING YOU THAT IT IS INCREASED.
INCREASED AT A LARGE PERCENTAGE.
SHE SAID 75 PEOPLE, 11 OF THE 15 CREWS ARE TAKING THE CLASSES.
I ASKED HER ABOUT EMS, UM, HEALTH.ORG.
I WAS THINKING MAYBE I GOT IT FROM HER STUFF, BUT I HAD ABOUT A MONTH AGO, RIGHT AFTER WE GOT OUR APPLICATIONS, THAT'S WHEN I RAN ACROSS IT.
I WANTED TO ASK HER IF IT HELPS.
AND DID SHE, YOU WERE SAYING THAT 39? YEAH.
A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN I WOULD'VE EXPECTED TO COMMIT SUICIDE.
HOW MUCH? HOW MANY OH I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY, BUT GIVE ME A MINUTE.
NO, JUST OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
I, IT WAS A, IT WAS A HIGH AMOUNT.
YOU MENTIONED IT DURING THE MEETING.
SO WE NEED TO GET, DO WE WANNA REVISIT THE ZEROS AS PATTY RECOMMENDS? WELL, I, IT'S NOT THAT I WANTED TO CHANGE THE ZEROS TO ANYTHING OTHER NUMBER.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE REASONING IS VERY, VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR AND SOLID IN EVERYBODY'S MINDS.
PERSONALLY, I'M OKAY WITH THE ZEROS.
SHE NEEDS, IT'S REALLY TOO BAD.
AND SHE'S SURE DEDICATED, BUT IT'S NOT, SHE IS PERSONALLY DEDICATED, BUT SHE, SHE NEEDS MORE STRUCTURE AND I THINK SHE NEEDS SOME OTHER SOURCE OF FINANCIAL ENGINE.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW FOR A SPECIALIZED GROUP LIKE THAT, IF SHE CAN LEAN COMPLETELY ON THE CITY TO FUND THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.
AND SEEING AS, YOU KNOW, 90% OR 95% OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS SALARIES FOR LIKE TWO PEOPLE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE, AND THEY CAN VOLUNTEER SOME OF THEIR TIME, BUT I, THE WHOLE THING'S JUST, YEAH.
IT'S A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THEY'D HAVE TO GIVE THE MONEY BACK.
PARAMEDICS, EMTS AND FIREFIGHTERS HAVE A 39% HIGHER RATE OF SUICIDE THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
SO WHAT'S LEFT TO GIVE AWAY? LIKE, UH, ABOUT, UM, 40,000? NO, 40.
SO WE COULD BUMP UP 1501 AND WE COULD BUMP UP VSAR, OR WE COULD GO BACK TO THE ARTS.
NOW, IF WE GO BACK TO THE ARTS, I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ALL PRETTY HIGHLY FUNDED.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GUYS IS UNDER THE RADAR WITH SAC IS THAT THERE'S ABOUT 150 LOCAL ARTISTS THAT SELL THROUGH THE GALLERY.
AND THAT'S KIND OF UNDER THE RADAR.
BUT THAT GOES ON REGARDLESS OF THIS PROGRAM.
BUT THE GALLERY, WELL, THE GALLERY IS, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL.
BUT YEAH, THE GALLERY'S OPEN YEAR ROUND.
SO, AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS SEPARATE.
BUT YEAH, THE ARTS ARE VERY WELL FUNDED.
WE ARE ALL 70% AND HIGHER FUNDED.
MANY IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE THE BRIDGE CLUB ANOTHER 500 BUCKS.
HOW'S THE BRIDGE CLUB ON YOUR OTHER, ON THEIR OTHER? YEAH, THEY'RE, WE GAVE THEM
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2040%.'CAUSE WE'VE GOT 200 THAT'S KIND OF HANGING THERE.
SO IF WE GIVE THEM 2200, IT BUMPS THEM UP TO 44% OF THEIR ASK.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME FOR OUR POPULATION.
I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THAT? IS THAT WITH THE 2200? NO, IT SAYS 2000 RIGHT NOW.
FOR, FOR WHAT? THE BRIDGE CLUB? YEAH.
YOU'RE GONNA GIVE THEM ANOTHER 200.
WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM WHEN WE HAD A RATTLESNAKE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WHO FROM REPTILES? DID WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR REP HOUSE? NO, NO, NO.
WHEN WE HAD A RATTLESNAKE THAT NIGHT, WE CALLED, OH, I SEE.
AND THEY GAVE US THEIR NUMBER AND THEY DIDN'T COME TO CALL.
I MEAN, I WOULDN'T, I SEE THEY DO A FINE PROGRAM.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS.
UM, WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS VERDE VALLEY SEARCH AND RESCUE, THE BSAR, WHICH, UM, I ALWAYS WANT TO FUND THEM, EVERYBODY AT THE REQUEST, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL WITH WHAT THEY REQUEST.
THEY ARE, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT THE ONES I'VE SEEN.
AND THEY'RE CONSISTENTLY GOOD.
AND I DON'T YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
BECAUSE THEY'RE THE NUMBER THREE, RIGHT? YES.
THE NUMBER TWO GOT 83% OF THEIR ASK THE NUMBER FOUR GOT A HUNDRED, AND THE NUMBER THREE GOT 76%.
IF WE COULD BRING THEM UP MORE, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT.
DID THAT POP US OVER? NO, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE $3,000.
WELL, I, I WOULD TEND TO GO BACK TO, TO THE MANZANITA IN THE COMMUNITY.
I, I WOULD NOT TEND TO GO BACK TO THE PARTS WITH THAT 3000, BUT 3000.
YOU WANNA SPLIT IT BETWEEN MANZANITA AND THE FOOD BANK? I'D BE FINE WITH THAT, BUT THAT WAS JUST MY OPINION.
SO THIS A, SO SHE'S SO GOOD, DOG.
ARE YOU SAYING SHE'S KIND OF AN OLD DOG RIGHT NOW? HOW YOU SHE DOESN'T TRUST ME.
WHY IS MY SUM COMING UP TO 3 53? WELL, BECAUSE PROBABLY WE'RE OFF SOMEWHERE.
I'VE GOT THREE 50, BUT, UM, UH, WHERE'S MANZA? SO YOU PUT IN MANZA 29 52 2 5 2 2.
AND COMMUNITY FOOD BANK IS 1, 1 5, 2, 2.
SO WHERE ARE WE OFF? OKAY, LET'S GO FROM THE TOP.
ART, SO YOU'RE, YOU GOT ART, RIGHT? ART ARTS FESTIVAL READY? OKAY.
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YEP.OH, I HAD 15 FOR THE ARTS FESTIVAL.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I HAD.
I DIDN'T, I THINK WE MAYBE PINGED FULLY FUNDING.
LET ME, UM, GO BACK AND THREE 50.
SO NOW IT THE JUSTIFICATION, NOW WE HAVE TO DO THE, JUST, OKAY.
SO I'M GONNA TAKE OUT ALL THESE HIGHLIGHTS 'CAUSE WE EVIDENTLY DON'T NEED THOSE ANYMORE.
SO, UM, SO DON RX REDUCTION TEST.
RIGHT? NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING.
THE OTHER THING WITH THEM IS, I CAN'T READ THAT.
CAN YOU NOT? ANYWAY, IT'S A LITTLE, YEAH, MAYBE I HAVE TO.
YEAH, WE DON'T NEED TO SEE THE WHOLE THING ANYMORE.
YOU COULD JUST BLOW UP JUST PARTS.
HOW ABOUT IF I INCREASE THE FONT? SELECT THE N.
I THINK I KNOW WHEN I HAVE A SPREADSHEET QUESTION TO ASK YOU.
YOU SOUND VERY EXPERIENCED WITH EXCEL SPREADSHEETS.
WAS THAT YOUR CAREER? WAS THAT NO.
WAS THAT A CAREER THING THERE? WELL, I RAN MY OWN FIRM, SO I HAD TO DO A LOT OF SPREADSHEET WORK.
I STARTED BACK WITH IN 1971, AL
WITH THE TWO DISCS THAT YOU PUT IN ONE TO BOOT THE MACHINE AND THEN YOU PUT THE PROGRAM DISC IN.
SO NO, IT IS NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING.
I DO WE NEED REALLY ANY FURTHER EXPLANATION FOR THAT? NO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK ON THE, UM, BUT WITH THE FILM FESTIVAL, I THOUGHT IT WAS, IF WE HAD THE MONEY, WE FULLY FUND IT.
WE JUST DON'T, WE WOULD FULLY FUND IT IF WE HAD THE MONEY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS STRUGGLING WITH.
UM, WOULD, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT.
UM, ACTUALLY, CHAMBER MUSIC CENTER, WE FULLY FUND THAT TOO.
AND NOW ARE WE ON EMERSON? YEAH.
EMERSON WAS, UM, A SMALL IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, REALLY? THEY HAD 80, 87 PEOPLE AND TRYING TO GROW.
DO WE WANT THAT FOR THE WORDING? UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CUT 'EM BY THREE GRAND.
UH, SEDONA SYMPHONY, WE GOT THEM.
UH, LOWER COMMUNITY IMPACT OR WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THIS? ARTS ACADEMY IS, YEAH, IT'S THE SAME AS EMERSON.
UM, RED ROCK MUSIC FESTIVAL, LOWER COMMUNITY IMPACT.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S WRONG WITH MOSHI? HIS METRICS STILL.
WELL, HE HAS, UH, WELL HIS METRICS WERE GOOD.
I WHY, WHY DIDN'T WE FULLY FIND MOSHI
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SHORT OF THAT? WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT, WELL, YEAH, BUT WHERE DID HE, UH, FALL? HE HAD A LOW FINANCIAL NEED BECAUSE OH, YOU WOULDN'T AGREE WITH THATBUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE HAS A LOWER FINANCIAL NEED.
IT'S JUST THAT HE ISN'T COMING TO US FOR THE MONEY.
HIS LOWER FINANCIAL NEED WOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY THE FACT OF HOW MUCH MONEY DOES HE HAVE IN THE BANK? YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE.
HIS COMMUNITY IMPACT IS LESS, IS IT LESS THE FILM FESTIVAL.
INSTEAD OF FIVE CONCERTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TWO AND A HALF KIND OF THAT HE'S GONNA DO THIS COMING YEAR.
NOW, WHICH IS WHY HIS AS WAS DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IS, IS PIANO ON THE ROCKS A LOWER COMMUNITY IMPACT AS WELL? I MEAN, ARE THEY YES.
HOW DOES HE COMPARE? DOES RED ROCK MUSIC AT THE FESTIVAL HAVE LEFT LESS OF AN IMPACT THAN PIANO ON THEY'RE ASKING FOR LESS MONEY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMPARABLE TO COMMUNITY IMPACT WITH PIANO ON THE ROCKS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE PIANO ON THE ROCKS MORE RELATIVE FUNDING THAN WE GAVE MOSHI.
WE GAVE THEM 89% OF THEIR ASK.
SHOULD WE ADJUST THAT WE COULD TO GET THEM MORE COMPARABLE? SHOULD WE TAKE AWAY FROM MANZANITA TO DO THAT? OH, I WOULD THINK SO.
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE FROM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE, WELL WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I DON'T KNOW.
SHOULD WE TAKE IT FROM, SHOULD WE TAKE IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE? 'CAUSE WE CAN GO OUTSIDE THE ARTS TO DO THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO CUT THE ARTS ANYMORE, PERSONALLY.
THE ARTS ARE GETTING 180,000 AND HUMAN SERVICES IS GETTING 148 AND THERE'S A LOT MORE SERVICES PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WE'RE NOT FUNDING AT ALL.
SO WE WANT TO, WE COULD, I'M, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING ART MONEY AROUND WITHIN ART MONEY.
UM, I MEAN WE'VE ALL, WE TAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM PIANO AND GIVE IT TO RED ROCKS.
WELL, OKAY, SO WE HAVE 12 AND SIX, UH, 10 AND EIGHT OR 11 AND SEVEN.
11 AND SEVEN WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GO TO 11.
11? NOW THEY'RE AT 81% AND SEVEN IS 82%.
NOW THEY'RE, THAT SOUNDS THEY'RE AT THE SAME PERCENTAGE.
SO 11,007 FOR PIANO AND SEVEN FOR RED ROCKS.
NOW THEY'RE BOTH GETTING ABOUT 82% OF THEIR ASS.
ARE WE STILL AT ZERO? ARE WE STILL AT THREE 50? SO YOU WERE WRITING THE JUSTIFICATION TO PIANO.
PIANO WAS WAS LOWER COMMUNITY IMPACT THAN NO.
WELL FULLY FUND AND THEN I WOULD SAY WOULD FULLY FUND FOR BOSHI.
THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS IT IS A UNIQUE OFFERING TO SEDONA.
AND UM, THEY HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD.
UH, AND THEY HAVE THINGS IN SET SET UP ALREADY.
UM, BUT I THINK MORE, MORE FOR US.
'CAUSE THAT'S THEIR RISK THAT THEY'RE MOVING LONG, LONG, LONG PERFORMANCE HISTORY.
AND PRESCOTT THAT THEY'VE GOT PROVEN TRACK RECORD, PERFORMANCE HISTORY, GOOD VIDEOS LOCALLY AND WELL.
AND A COMPLETELY UNIQUE OFFERING FOR THE CITY.
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UM, SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.READ ME, READ ME THAT WAY AND GET IT ALL DONE WITH THAT
UM, REPEAT SUB SUBSTANTIAL ANNUAL COMMUNITY GOD ATTENDANCE.
UM, OH, THE OTHER THING IS THAT THEY'RE, UM, THE BROAD, BROAD AUDIENCE.
ONE, UM, UNIQUE OFFERING LONG PERFORMANCE HISTORY IN NORTHERN ARIZONA WAS SUBSTANTIAL ANNUAL COMMUNITY ATTENDANCE OF ALL AGES.
I'LL PUT SOME PREPOSITIONS AND STUFF IN THERE.
IONS TO FOLLOW
UM, WOULD FULLY, WOULD WE FULLY FUND 75,000? UH, WOULD FUND MORE? THAT MIGHT BE MORE TACTILE.
AND, AND IN THIS, UH, NARRATIVE THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER, STEPHANIE.
YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER COLUMN, DON'T YOU? WHERE YOU TRY TO SUMMARIZE IN JUST A FEW LITTLE SHORT WORDS OR PHRASES WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, RIGHT? OR DON'T YOU YEAH, I DO.
THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO TOO, IN THE, UM, YEAH, WE COULD GO BACK AND DO THAT.
I COULD, I COULD CREATE ANOTHER COLUMN FOR THAT.
I CAN HIDE THE COMMENT COLUMN.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT THAT IN AS WELL.
SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, AT THEM AND SOMETIMES I GET THEM WRONG.
SO, UH, LET'S DO THAT WHILE WE'RE HERE.
I'M JUST GOING TO MINIMIZE THIS THAT DON'T JUST HIDE IT.
I'M STILL AMAZED AT THE, UM, ARTS FESTIVAL GUY.
HE SAID HE WAS CONSIDERING FREE.
IT'S LIKE HE'S GOT A PHD IN ACCOUNTANT.
WELL, BUT HE'S TALKING TO THE SEDONA GROUP.
THE ARTS FESTIVAL IS JUST, IS INCREASED COST OF SITE RENTALS.
THE DONUT FILM FESTIVAL IS EXPANDED PROGRAMING.
UM, LAST NIGHT FESTIVITIES AND MOVIES ON THE MOVE.
WELL, THEY MAY ELIMINATE THE, THE FREE NIGHT IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE FULL AMOUNT.
I THINK THAT'S ALL SPONSORSHIP FREE, CO FREE COMPONENTS.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW MANY SOMETHING WILL BE FREE.
UH, CHAMBER MUSIC IS, UM, YOUTH CONCERT MUSIC LESSONS.
UM, ADOLESCENCE AND ENRICHMENT INSTRUCTION.
DO THEY DO THATT OF CONSTRUCTION AND
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PERFORMANCES AND SPAC FEES? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA PUT THAT IN THERE.UM, YEAH, MAYBE THE INSTRUCTION PERFORMANCE.
OR JUST SPAC FEE? UH, WHAT IT, UM, OH GOD.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT'S NOW.
HUH? ARE YOU ON EMERSON? I'M ON EMERSON.
UH, ESSAYS FROM HOLIDAY ON ICE PERFORMANCE USING LOCAL ACTORS.
SUPPORT SUPPORTIVE VOCAL TALENT.
I WOULD BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT BEFORE.
THEY WOULD APOLOGIZE ON DAVID SARI.
TO IT, ISN'T IT? THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER THINGS TOO.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS IT LOCAL? DIDN'T HE TALK ABOUT DANCE? DIDN'T HE SAY THE WORD DANCE? WE COULD DO A FREE PRODUCTION AT THE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING, BUT I KNOW.
NO, I THOUGHT THEY WERE ONLY ASKING THOSE KIND OF WORRY ME AT TIMES.
BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER TIMES WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE PERMISSION IN ADVANCE TO DO THOSE.
IT'S VERY VALLEY SCHOOL HE IS INVOLVED WITH.
SEE, THAT'S WHERE HE IS GOING HAVE HIS PRODUCTION AND HE'S INVITING THE OKAY.
BUT THE SCHOOL STUDENTS THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I ALREADY REMEMBER.
BUT IT WASN'T THE WEST SEDDON SCHOOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE.
BUT THE PROGRAM IS JUST THE ONE THING.
UH, SYMPHONY IS MORE, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING A POP CONCERT.
ONE MUSICAL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE CALL.
WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT? UM, UNIQUE POP OFFERING.
UM, THAT'S THE SAME THING AS USUAL.
UH, ARTS ACADEM IS WHAT YOU'RE ON.
PERFORMANCE AND CO WITH CULINARY IMMERSION.
LIVE PERFORMANCE SLASH UM, EVENT OFFERING ROCK FESTIVAL WORLD CLASS.
WHERE ARE YOU? RED ROCKS MUSIC FESTIVAL.
DOES HE BRING IN ARTISTS FROM ALL OVER? OR THEY, THEY'RE NOT INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS, RIGHT? I DUNNO.
WHAT I RECALL JUST THE ONE WORD INTERNATIONAL DOES
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ADD SOMETHING TO DESCRIPTION.WHERE DID INTERNATIONAL COME FROM THOUGH? HE'S BRINGING OVER, I DUNNO IF IT'S A VIOL OR SOMETHING.
THIS IS THE PARIS ONE, RIGHT? PARIS? NO, THAT'S THE OTHER ONE.
WELL, HE LISTS ALL THE ARTISTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
UH, ARTISTS CREDENTIALS INCLUDE TOURING, ARTISTS PERFORMING THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, CANADA, EUROPE AND MEXICO.
AND WHAT DOES, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF ARTIST? UH, CLASSICAL.
UM, UNIQUE INTERNATIONAL ACROBATICS.
WHERE ARE YOU? I'M, I'M IN THE
OH, I THOUGHT WE DID CARPET THAT WELL I DID THAT, BUT I AS TO WHAT THEY WERE.
ACROBATIC UNIQUE INTERNATIONAL ACROBATIC TROOP OR ACROBATIC SLASH DANCE TROUPE.
IT WAS A, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T, THE THE CIRCUS POPS INTO YOUR MIND WITH THE STILT WALKERS.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT POPPED INTO MY MIND.
SO I WENT AND WATCHED A VIDEO AND IT'S LIKE, NO, IT'S DANCE.
IT'S MORE DANCE AND WITH ACROBATIC DANCE.
'CAUSE IF I SAY STILL DANCING, YOU'RE GONNA GO WHAT? YES.
THAT AKA WAS, UH, THE SONO REPTILE THAT SAID IT.
THAT HE, NO, I MEANT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EVENT WAS, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THEY HAD DANCING STILT PEOPLE.
WELL, IF THEY HAD DANCING STILT PEOPLE, HE MIGHT THAT, I MEAN, BECAUSE HE'S BEEN IN PRESCOTT FOR YEARS.
I WORKING WITH THE SAME GROUP.
HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN MAKE A CAREER OF THAT? ISN'T THAT FASCINATING? ISN'T IT? UH, YEAR, YEAR LONG.
SHE BUMPED IT UP FROM 11 TO 12 EXHIBITS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
YOU USE THE WORD GALLERY IF YOU COULD IN THERE TOO, BECAUSE GALLERY, DID SHE, WHAT WAS YOUR TITLE? NO, SHE SAID SHE, SHE WANTED TO HAVE IT ON THE SAME DAYS AS THE MONTH.
THE GALLERIES TO THEIR FIRST WRITING ROTATING.
NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH CHEMISTRY.
I'M MAKING IT ONE EXHIBIT BECAUSE IT'S AN ELEMENTS EXHIBIT.
BUT IT HAS TO BE ONE EXHIBIT AGAIN.
IT'S, IS IT CALLED, IS IT PROFESSIONAL BRIDGE? NO, IT'S CALLED DUPLICATE BRIDGE.
BUT IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BASED, IT'S LIKE THIS WHOLE NATIONAL RIGHT.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS REGIONAL COMPETITION ACTUALLY.
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EXTRA DAY.IT'S 'CAUSE ARE THEY USING THE HANDS AND THE, THE MACHINE? I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING A DAY OF WHAT WE'RE, I THINK WE SHOULD STRESS IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING A DAY TO THEIR SCHEDULE TO ALLOW MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SENDING.
WELL IT'S THE SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT PART.
BUT WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE ALSO PAYING FOR PART OF THEIR MACHINERY AND STUFF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PAYING A CAPITAL EXPENSE FOR THEIR MACHINERY.
BUT WE DIDN'T FUND THEM A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WHAT WE CHOSE TO FUND WAS THE ADDITIONAL DAY.
YOU, YOU KNOW THE WORDS SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT, THE, THE SOCIALIZATION PART OF YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.
IS THIS REFRIGERATION OR COOLING OR WHAT'S FOR VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL? OH, VERDE VALLEY SCHOOL IS, UM, SEED AND PRODUCE.
DON'T WANNA GET TOO WORDY, RIGHT? OH, THIS IS, WELL, TO BETTER SUPPORT, UM, THE FOOD, THE AVAILABILITY.
THE AVAILABILITY OF FRESH PRODUCE FOR, UM, FOR FOOD BANKS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IT FOR THE FOOD.
PROVIDE TO SUPPLEMENT, SELL IT TO ANYBODY.
FOOD, FOOD DISTRIBUTION, PRODUCTION, FOOD.
WHAT ARE THERE? IS IT, UM, UH, O TO, UH, SUPPLEMENT FOOD INSECURITY PROGRAMS. THERE YOU GO.
NOW YOU DON'T WANT SUPPLEMENT INSECURITY.
FOOD SECURITY PROGRAMS. ALRIGHT, GOT IT.
THIS IS, UM, UH, WILDLIFE CONSERVATION.
WILDLIFE CONSERVATION EDUCATION.
UH, SLASH EDUCATION SLASH EDUCATION.
IS THE, UM, GARDEN, GARDEN SIGNAGE? MM-HMM.
WE'RE DOING THE, UM, HUMMINGBIRD FESTIVAL.
UM, OR TO ENHANCE AND, WELL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FREE OR NO COST.
WELL YOU CALL IT BIKE BELLS, RIGHT? NOT BEAR BELL BIKE.
DO WE WANT THE BEAR IN IT? YEAH, WE DO.
I'LL TELL YOU WHY WE, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
BECAUSE I RIDE ALONG AND ALONG COME THESE CANADIANS, I GO, WHOA, BLACK EJECTORS.
I GO TO THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND YOU, WELL, CANADA, WE DON'T USE BELLS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR HANDLES HANDS OFF THE BARS AND GO,
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RING, RING, RING.I SAID, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
YOU ATTACH 'EM TO YOUR BIKE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU COMING.
SO I SAID, I HA I JUST GAVE AWAY MY LAST ONE.
CAN'T GIVE YOU A BILL, BUT OKAY.
WE MAY GET A QUESTION BY SOMEONE THEN.
JUST WHY ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT BEARS,
THEY MAY ASK, WELL, HOW WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A BEER? THEY PRETTY MUCH DO TO AVOID THAT QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID THE CANADIANS SAY ABOUT BELLS? THEY SAID, WE IN CANADA, THEY DON'T ADVISE US.
THEY DON'T LET US USE BELLS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR HANDS OFF THE HANDLEBARS TO RING THE BELL.
YOU HAVE TO RING YOUR BELL OR WHATEVER.
MY BIKE IS YOUR THUMB, NOT YOUR HAND.
SHE'S STILL, POLES LIKES TO BE NEAR YOU.
MANS NEED OUTREACH IS, UM, UH, SEDONA.
NOW WE'RE INCREASING NUTRITIOUS FOOD MORE.
PRODUCE NEW TO SUPPORT, NUTRITION.
USE NUTRITION THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING ALL THE PROTEIN STUFF.
LOCAL FRESH PROTEIN AND, UM, PRODUCE.
BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
NOW THIS IS JUST A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROGRAM FOR NUTRITIONAL ENHANCEMENT.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A, A NICHE.
NICHE THAT THEY ARE SERVING IS THEIR MORE NUTRITIONALLY THEY DO DELIVER RIGHT TO THE HOME.
GOOD NUTRITIONALLY AND NUTRITIONALLY DENSE.
WE SHOULD HAVE AI, IT'S THE SAME THING.
LOCAL PRODUCE, NUTRITION AND NO, THEY, THEY'RE INCREASED CAPACITY.
THIS IS FOR, UM, K NINE AND ROPES TRAINING.
K NINE N GROVE STREET SPECIAL.
I THINK, I MEAN, JUST NOT TECHNICAL.
THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY CERTIFIED AND SHE'S GOT TWO CERTIFICATIONS NOW AND THEY MAY OBTAIN THEM.
IT'S UH, IT'S BASIC NEEDS FOR WEST SEDONA SCHOOL KIDS.
IT'S ADDING WEST SEDONA SCHOOL TO THEIR, UM, PROGRAM.
UM, BASIC, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT USING THE WORD BASIC.
UH, IT'S TEACHER DIRECTED, KIND OF A ASSISTED, UH, DIRECTION, UH, IN WHO NEEDS THEM.
UH, ADDING WESTED SCHOOL TO MEETING, UM, UH, STUDENT BASIC STUDENT CHILDREN'S.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT PENCILS AND PENCILS, IT'S WHATEVER.
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MEDICAL CLOTHING.ALMOST LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME MONSOON CLOUDS OUT THERE.
WOULDN'T THAT BE WONDERFUL? THAT WOULDN'T OH, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.
UM, THEATER PARTICIPATION OR PARTICIPATION OR THEATER.
I KNOW IT'S AFTER SCHOOL, BUT I MEAN, JUST TO KIND CONFIRM.
ADULTS DON'T NEED AS MUCH SUPERVISION.
I WANT IT IS NOT THEATER FOR THE KIDS PARTICIPATION.
ARE THEY THE ONES THAT ALSO DID THE TALENT SHOW? YES.
SO WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN THERE.
'CAUSE THE TALENT SHOW GOT A LOT OF PRESS SO THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA RECOGNIZE THAT.
I THINK IF THEY SUBSCRIBE TO THE RED, THIS MAY THE ONE THAT, THE PAPER MAYBE SOMEWHERE.
SHE'S, SHE'S AN ADVENTURESOME.
THIS WOMAN IS, SHE IS A HOLLYWOOD PRODUCER.
I'M SURPRISED THE KIDS PARTICIPATED.
WELL, THAT WAS HER THING, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD YEAH.
REALLY? SHE WAS A REALLY, I MEAN MOTIVATOR.
THE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE KIDS WITH HER FEET.
I MEAN, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE A UPSIDE DOWN.
A REALLY, IT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
NOW, WHAT COULD GO WRONG? I'M GONNA TRY IT.
WHAT COULD GO WRONG? THERE'S THIS GREAT MEME, GREAT ME MEME OF, UM, I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS SAW THE SHINING WITH, UH, JACK NICHOLSON.
THERE'S THE FAMILY PORTRAIT OF JACK NICHOLSON AND, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME.
AND THERE THE FA THERE'S ONE THROUGH AND THERE'S SPENDING MORE TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY DURING COVID.
REAL ONE IS, UM, CHILDREN'S EMPOWERMENT PROGRAM.
BICYCLE SKILLS, EMPOWERMENT, DEVELOPING BIKE, BICYCLE SKILLS, SAFETY, BICYCLE SKILLS.
CHILDREN'S YOUTH DEVELOPMENT VIA BIKE SKILLS.
UM, IS IT VIA OR, UH, UH, THROUGH, YEAH, THROUGH, UH, BIKING.
EMERGENCY CAR AND TRANSPORTATION.
THEY CALL IT TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE.
I WAS IMPRESSED WITH HOW WELL THEY VETED PEOPLE AND THEY DID THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY DID.
I'M VERY GLAD THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE WHO HAVE CHILDREN.
AND THAT'S PRETTY NEW ACTUALLY.
WILDCATS PROGRAM WAS A GREAT IDEA.
WIG IS, WELL, ALL WE FUNDED WAS THE WIG PART.
THAT WAS MORE THAN WHAT THEY DID WING.
SHE CALLED IT EDUCATION AND PSYCHOSOCIAL SUPPORT.
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IS GOOD.AND SPEAKING OF JACK NICHOLSON.
I WAS THINKING OF THAT LEADING UP THE SOCIAL PART.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU GOT THIS HERE.
UH, FIRST IT'S MORE THAN JUST YOGA.
IT IS JUST, UM, FARM, FARM FIRE.
EMS, UH, UH, EMS. UM, CALLED SPEED OF SPEED.
YOGA TO BENEFIT EMOTIONAL WELLNESS OR SO YES.
PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLNESS.
I, THIS, THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK INTO THE OTHER PART OF IT.
UH, NOT THAT'S GOOD, BUT THE, THAT'S THE POSITIVE.
UH, UH, I, WHAT I WANNA SAY IS FIREFIGHTERS, I'LL FIX THIS, BUT FIREFIGHTERS HAVE, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE? 30 OR 39% GREATER RISK OF SUICIDE THAN THE, UH, GENERAL POPULATION IS THE WAY IT'S WORDED ON ONE WEBSITE FOR EMS HEALTH.ORG.
THEN, THEN WHAT KIND OF POPULATION? GENERAL.
SO DOES THAT MEAN EMERGENT WHAT? RISK.COM.
I JUST WANT TO QUOTE, I'M JUST GONNA USE THAT OKAY.
AS THE REFERENCE, AS THE FOOTNOTE.
IS THAT HERE? IT'S WITH THE PERCENTAGE YOU'VE ACTUALLY SEEN IT.
IF, IF THE GENERAL POPULATION, I'M MAKING THIS UP, OF COURSE, HAD A 10% SUICIDE RATE.
I'M PICKING A NICE ROUND NUMBER.
IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN 39% MORE THAN THAT, WHICH WOULD BE 14.
IT'D BE LIKE 14% OF THE, OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WOULD HAVE IT, RIGHT? NO.
I'M SAYING 14% GREATER RISK FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
SO THAT MEANS THEN THAN THE GENERAL, IF IT WAS 10%, THEN THE FIREFIGHTERS WOULD BE 14%.
SO I MEAN, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SAY 30, THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WITH PERCENTAGES DON'T EXACTLY HEAR THE NUMBERS CLEARLY OR HEAR WHAT IT'S COMPARISON TO.
AND I WANT TO SAY THIS BEING PROVIDED TO 11 OUT OF, UH, BUT IS THAT BEING PROVIDED TO 11 OUT OF 15 SHIFTS? 32.
UM, BECAUSE OF, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING FOR ALL 15 SHIFTS, OR THERE'S ANOTHER REASON.
I THINK IT'S JUST, IT CAME ACROSS AS JUST THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SIGNED UP.
SO 11 OF THE 15 CREWS PARTICIPATE.
SHE DIDN'T SAY WHY ONLY 11? THAT'S A, UM, A, UH, LET ME, SORRY.
WHERE AM I? STREET HEAT, STREET BACKPACKS FOR KIDS BACKPACKS.
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EXCUSE.IS IT WORTH NOTING ANYWHERE THAT THIS IS FOLLOWING A VERY SUCCESSFUL INAUGURAL ROOM? SURE.
NO, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT MY MINE WAS RINGING TOO.
UM, SEE, THIS IS, WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT COLUMNS.
THIS IS THE, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR COLUMN? YES.
WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR? A CALL? YEAH, IT WAS, UM, UH, SWIM.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THEIR WAS.
SWIM LESSONS THROUGH, UH, THROUGH SWIMMING.
I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH.
SO, SO FUNDER NEED, UH, NEED, UH, WOULD FUND IF, IF PROGRAM PROGRAM NEEDS MORE STRUCTURE AND, UM, ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
I THINK THE FIRST TIME LAST YEAR, SHE WAS STRESSING SAFETY A LOT.
THAT THE, IT WAS LEARNING, TEACHING KIDS HOW TO SWIM, TEACHING THESE TODDLERS HOW TO SWIM.
I MEAN, IF THEY FRICKING FELL IN, THEY DIE.
AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE THIS TIME.
NO, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEAL.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA SAY ABOUT THE METAPHOR FOR OKAY.
TWO STRAT FOODS TO SHOW GOOD FAITH.
SO WHAT'S THE DESCRIPTION OF IS IT'S A, UM, UM, IT'S A LAUNCH OF, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO, THEIR ADDICTION LAB, THE LAUNCH OF THEIR ADDICTION LAB, WHICH IS A NEW WAY TO HELP PEOPLE OVERCOME ADDICTIONS.
UM, OR UNIQUE WAY, WORTHWHILE CAUSE LAUNCH OF, BUT THEY HAVE NO TRACK RECORD YET.
IT ACTUALLY KIND OF SNOWBALLING, UM, PERSONAL ENGAGEMENT.
THAT WAS HER WHOLE CONCEPT WAS SNOWBALLING.
YOU ASKED SOMEBODY WHO ELSE THAT COULD GET INVOLVED.
WHO ELSE? OH, THAT WAS HOW TO BUILD THEIR, THEIR HOW TO BUILD THEIR WHOLE COMMUNITY.
IT'S BUILT, BUT IT IS, THAT'S PART OF IT.
UH, BUILDING DATA SET OF, UH, PEER SUCCESS.
SOMETHING FOR, UH, STRATEGIES.
BUILDING DATA, SET OF PEER SUCCESS.
STRATEGIES FOR OVERCOMING ADDICTION.
WITH SOFTWARE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.
BUT THEY'RE HAVING TO BUILD THE DATA SET AND THEY WANT TO DO VIDEOS.
SOME, A LOT OF THEIR EXPENSE HAD TO DO WITH MAKING VIDEOS OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THEIR GROUP OF TESTING, TESTING.
SO THEY HAVE THIS IDEA ABOUT HOW THIS WILL WORK, BUT THEY, THEY HAVEN'T TRIED IT.
SO THEY HAVE NO TRACK RECORD OF PROVEN SUCCESS WITH FOLLOW UP.
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UM, GROUP APPLICATION FOLLOW UP APPLIC IN GROUPS OF EIGHT TO 10.YOU WOULD THINK SOMEONE LIKE GOOGLE WOULD JUST TAKE IT OVER AND YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S, THOSE STORIES ARE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AREN'T THEY WHO CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA OKAY.
THIS IS CLIENT EDUCATION, CLIENT WORKFORCE.
THAT CLIENT EDUCATION FOR SEDONA.
CLIENT EDUCATION, CLIENT PREPARATION TO REJO.
PREPARATION TO ENTER WORKFORCE.
THE FACT THAT THERE'S ONLY SIX OF THEM.
WELL THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPMENT FOR, UM, UM, MID EIGHT TO EIGHT TO SOMETHING HIGH SCHOOL.
FOR, UM, IT'S SUCCESSOR PROGRAM.
I CAME SUCCESSOR PROGRAM TO, TO, ALRIGHT.
AND I THINK I HAVE THE JUSTIFICATION IF, OKAY.
WE DID THE ARTS PART OF THIS AND THEN WE GOT STUCK ON THE DEAL.
WHAT ABOUT THIS BRIDGE PROGRAM? UH, DID BRIDGE REGIONAL PLAY? OKAY.
THIS THING IS THE, UM, UH, WHAT DID WE, WE SAY IT WAS, UM, ENGA ENGAGEMENT.
DEAN, YOU HAD THE GOOD DESCRIPTION.
HOW THIS HELPED PEOPLE TO STAY ENGAGED AND SOCIALLY ENGAGED WITH PEOPLE OF OUR LOCAL POPULATION FOR MENTAL HEALTH.
DO LOOK AT BRIDGE PLAY, ADDITIONAL DAY STIMULATION.
DOES THAT INCLUDE MENTAL? MENTAL, WANTED THEM TO LOOK FORWARD TO INTELLECTUAL MEETING WITH THE PEOPLE AND PLAYING ENGAGEMENT, MENTAL ACTIVITY.
IF I HAVE A PROBLEM, REACH OUT.
ALRIGHT, NOW I'M GONNA, WELL, WE COULD GO THROUGH THE EASY ONES AND WE GET STUCK.
THEN YOU CAN, BECAUSE LIKE SONORAN REPTILES, THAT
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WAS, UM, NEW.UH, NEW, NEW, NEW PROGRAMS. OKAY.
BUT WHAT IS, IT'S A, UM, UH, WELL YOU HAVE THAT ALREADY.
IT'S, BUT IT'S A INAUGURAL OR BUT WHAT RING? IT'S A BRINGING, UM, A VETTED PROGRAM.
BEGINNING, VETTED SUCCESSFUL CONSERVATION EDUCATION EVENT TO SEDONA.
UH, HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY IS JUST, UM, A CELEBRATION, NOT CELEBRATION OR, UH, UH, SHOWCASE.
UM, SEDONA, UM, SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT DURING, SHE SAID IT WAS INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN OF, OR AT LEAST NATIONAL.
WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT HAD UNIQUE HUMMINGBIRD ENVIRONMENT INTERNATIONAL.
IT'S THE INTERNATIONAL HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY.
UM, BUT THERE WERE MEMBERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY.
SOME PEOPLE WOULD JUST, WOULD, WOULD WHAT? I MEAN PEOPLE IN SOUTHEASTERN ARIZONA WOULD, WOULD KIND OF SAY SURE.
IT'S INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED.
WHAT? UM, WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WORD SHE USED.
UNIQUE HUMMINGBIRD ENVIRONMENT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE TO DO WITH THE INTERNATIONALLY UNIQUE, UH, SOCIETY AND, AND THE SPEAKER SAFETY FESTIVAL.
THATS TRUE FOR SPECIFIC AD FEATURE.
FEATURE INTERNATIONAL, UH, INTERNATIONALLY, UM, INTERNATIONAL SPEAKERS AND PROGRAMS. IT'S NOTHING LIKE A FRENCH EXPERT IN HUMMINGBIRD
THE, UH, RED ROCK NEWS HAD A DESCRIPTION FOR THE PLANTS WE HAVE IN THE VERDE VALLEY AND SAID THAT THIS TRULY IS THE GOLDILOCK ZONE.
AND I JUST CAN'T GET THAT OUTTA MY MIND.
I THINK OF IT THAT WAY FOR HUMMINGBIRDS.
ALL THE WHITE CREE PLACES IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA ARE TERRIFIC.
SHE SAID IT WAS UNIQUE TOO BECAUSE IT'S AN URBAN SORT OF, SORT OF AN URBAN AREA AS OPPOSED TO THE VERY REMOTE AREAS LIKE SOUTHEASTERN ARIZONA.
YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF YOU GOTTA CRAWL INTO CANYON KIND OF PLACES TO SEE SOME OF THOSE STRANGE.
ANYWAY, SO VERDE VALLEY CYCLIST IS UH, THIS IS WHY WE'RE FUNDING NOW.
USE TRAIL SAFETY AND UM, BRINGS AWARENESS.
DO WE NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE ONLY FUNDING THEM HALF WOULD FUND IT COULD AGAIN.
IT COULD ABSOLUTELY GIVE THEM EVERYONE INCREASED FUNDING IS NICE.
IT'S NOT AS ABSOLUTE AS FULLY FUNDED.
AND UH, SAFCO SEEMS KIND OF SELF-EVIDENT.
WE CAN MOVE TO MANZANITA PLUS WE FULLY FUNDED THEM, SO YEAH, YOU DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN IT.
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OUTREACH.I'M JUST GONNA, SO THEY THINK I HAD FORGOTTEN SOMETHING, RIGHT? OH YEAH.
WE DID FULLY EM WE DID FULLY FUND VSAR POLICY.
NOW, UH, I THOUGHT WE DID FULLY FUND, DIDN'T WE? WHO?
SO BELOW WOULD, UH, WOULD INCREASE.
UM, WHEEL FUND FULLY FUNDED ST.
VINCENT DE PAUL WOULD INCREASE.
UH, GARDENS IS FULLY FUNDED FULLY.
IS IT POSSIBLE THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD INCREASE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE ON THE SETTING? NO WAY.
ONCE THE, UM, BUDGET IN PAST YEARS BECAUSE THE FINAL BUDGET WASN'T DECIDED ON, THEY COULD INCREASE.
AH, BUT LEGALLY, ONCE A FINAL BUDGET IS ACCEPTED, WE CAN'T LEAVE.
WOULD WE INCREASE OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE, WOULD WE INCREASE FUNDING RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THESE? PROBABLY WOULD'VE.
IF THOSE THAT WEREN'T FULLY FUNDED, ABSOLUTELY.
IF, UM, PROGRAM WAS, UH, COMPLETELY LOCAL.
IF ALL, IF IF PROGRAM, IF ALL PROGRAM SERVICES WERE OFFERED IN SEDONA REGULARLY.
BECAUSE I TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU'RE GETTING TREATMENT HERE, YOU DO NOT FEEL LIKE GETTING IN A CAR AND DRIVING AT THERE.
I THINK WE WOULD FULLY FUND IF WE COULD.
UM, NEED NEED MORE, NEED MORE LOCAL PARTICIPATION.
WELL, YOU DON'T WANT MORE LOCAL
NEED MORE LOCAL, BUT, UH, LOW, LOW LOCAL OR HAS YEAH.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GET TOO, I WOULDN'T SAY IN, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY PARTICIPATION SOMETHING ON THE USE NU THE WORD NUMBER OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT HAS PROBABLY A LARGE IMPACT ON A FEW PEOPLE.
UH, NUMBER, NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
JUST SAY NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
THAT DOESN'T HAVE A JUDGMENT NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
UM, THAT'S NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS IT IS TOO, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
SAVE A COPY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
IT'S NOT AS BAD AS IT USED TO BE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT KIND OF GIVE YOU A AUTO SAVE HISTORIES AND SALON AND YOU CAN, IF YOU SCREW UP, YOU CAN KIND OF GO BACK AT, BUT NOT ALL.
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NOT ALL.ANOTHER THOUGHTFUL EVALUATION SESSION.
I WISH YOU WOULD ABLE SPEAK UP MORE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOUR INPUTS ARE VERY WORTHWHILE.
I, YOU, YOU'RE ALL SO CAPABLE.
I TRY TO KEEP MY SUMPTION THAT MAYBE ISN'T WHEN WE GET STUCK ON A WORD.
OR WHEN YOU DECIDED YOU GUYS ARE MAKING NO SENSE ANYMORE.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS LUNCH, RIGHT?
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING HER.
YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THEY WERE KIND OF HYPERACTIVE DOGS.
LET'S, LET'S PAUSE FOR A SECOND HERE.
THIS CONCLUDES THE SECOND DAY OF THE MEETING OF THE SMALL GRANTS EVALUATION COMMITTEE.
ALL COMMITTEE DELIBERATIONS ARE CONCLUDED.