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[Historic Preservation Commission on July 08, 2024.]
PARTY STARTED.HUH? CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
UH, I GUESS WE'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND COMMISSIONER SECONDER IS EXCUSED.
MOVING ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSION, ANYTHING FROM STAFF? UH, NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A PART OF THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU
UM, ANY, ANY EDITS TO THOSE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? SO MOVED.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA, THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 31 H, ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE.
DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE? NO.
REGULAR BUSINESS UPDATE ON THE RANGER STATION PARK.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SANDY PHILLIPS PUBLIC WORKS.
I AM HERE, UM, TODAY INSTEAD OF LARRY FARHAT, HE'S ON VACATION.
JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR PROGRESS ON RANGER STATION AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, I AM VERY VISUAL, SO I TOOK A COUPLE OF PICTURES THIS AFTERNOON JUST TO SHARE.
UM, OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM HAS BEEN DOING SOME FINE TOUCHES ON THE PARK, SO YOU'LL SEE RIGHT HERE IS A DOG WASTE STATION.
WE'VE GOT SOME SIGNAGE UP THAT HAS THE PARK HOURS.
THESE AREN'T EDITED, SO THEY'RE ALL QUICK.
UM, WE DO HAVE, BECAUSE WE, THERE'S A SOFT OPENING.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE AN A DA RESTROOM AND A REGULAR RESTROOM FOR ANY VISITORS CURRENTLY TO THE PARK.
THE STRUCTURES ARE NOT OPEN, BUT THE GRASS AREA, AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE GRASS AND ON ON THE SHARED USE PASS AROUND.
SO THE PARKING'S ALL STRIPED A DA LET'S CONTINUE FORWARD.
SO THE GRASS IS DOING REALLY GOOD SO FAR WITH THE, UM, ARIZONA HEAT THAT WE'VE GOT.
I'M GONNA GO BACK ON THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT.
THE TREES ARE FILLING IN NICELY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TREES THAT WE'VE PLANTED AND THAT ONE DIDN'T GET THE, UM, WE PLANTED SOME SYCAMORES RIGHT NEXT TO THE BARN, SO THOSE ARE COMING IN NICELY.
SO, AND WE PLANTED GRASS AROUND THE HOUSE FROM WHAT WE SALVAGED FROM THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND IT LOOKS GORGEOUS.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, OUR STAFF, MAINTENANCE STAFF HAS BEEN ADDING ROCK IN THE OPEN AREA, SO IT'S GETTING A REALLY GOOD FINISHED LOOK RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK IT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO, THE LIONS CLUB DONATED A APPLE TREE.
SO WE'VE GOT THREE APPLE TREES NOW OUT THERE, AND WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF, UH, RESIDENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DONATE TREES AND BENCHES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE LOCATIONS.
SO JUST ANOTHER LOOK AT SOME OF THE SIGNAGE.
SO IT'S, IT'S LOOKING REALLY NICE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE PLACE STRUCTURES ARE STILL, UM, WE'VE BEEN, UH, FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM CONSISTENTLY.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT FALL FOR THE PLACE STRUCTURES TO BE PLACED.
WE ARE, UH, WORKING WITH THE SUPPLIER ON GETTING SOME OF THE MORE SOLID STRUCTURES, WHICH ARE LIKE A, A CHEST TABLE THAT'S CONCRETE AND, UM, CORNHOLE,
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UH, TOSS SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE MOVING IN.AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE LATELY OR LARRY'S SHOWN YOU, BUT WE'VE GOT THIS ROCK THAT YOU CAN LAY ON THAT'S PRETTY COOL.
UM, WE CALL IT OUR ROCK ALIGNER.
UH, 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE A LOUNGE CHAIR.
BUT, UM, SO THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THE PARK IS LOOKING GREAT.
THE UPDATE ON THE RESTROOM BUILDING IS THAT WE'VE GOT ABOUT 90% PLANS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE COLORS OR ANYTHING YET.
IT'S THE SAME, UM, LAYOUT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.
IT'S JUST SLOWLY MOVING FORWARD.
UM, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THEIR REVIEW YET, BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT STARTING THAT CONSTRUCTION FALL IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.
THE INTERIOR OF THE BARN IS, AND HOUSE IS MOVING FORWARD SLOWLY AS WELL.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RAN INTO WAS THE ACCESS TO THE LOFT WHERE, UH, IT WASN'T MEETING CODE, I BELIEVE IS THE BEST USE.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO GET, UM, STAIRWAY UP, IT HAD TO HAVE A LANDING AND TURN BECAUSE OF THE PITCH OF THE ROOF.
AND SO THERE WASN'T ENOUGH HEADROOM.
SO THERE WAS, SO INSTEAD OF HOLDING THINGS UP AND TRYING TO WORK IT OUT AND, AND MINIMIZING THE IMPACT, WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET IT USABLE AND FIND OUT HOW PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO USE THE SPACE.
AND IF PEOPLE SEE A NEED FOR THE LOFT, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AT A LATER DATE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, PARKS AND REC IS NOT SURE WHAT THEY WOULD USE THAT LAW FOR, BUT I THINK AS WE, UM, SEE HOW THE BUILDING IS USED, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
BUT, UM, EVERYTHING IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD.
UM, NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE WALL REMOVAL WE'RE, UM, MAINTAINING.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT POLISHING THE FLOOR NOW AND FINISHING THE FLOOR, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
AND, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT REUSING SOME OF THE DOORS THAT WE SAVE THAT ARE IN THE BARN.
WE'RE GONNA USE THOSE IN THE INTERIOR.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S, I THINK, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF? UM, NO, BUT, UM, I WAS GONNA ASK, UH, IF ACTING CHAIR MEYERS MIGHT WANT TO, UH, NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS, IF WE WERE TO MOVE, UH, REGULAR BUSINESS ITEM D TO B, UH, AS SINCE SANDY WILL WILL BE HERE, MAYBE THAT'S, YEAH.
THAT MIGHT BE A, A GOOD THING.
SO WE CAN, UM, IS THAT THE EVENT? SO I, I CAN SEE THAT WE CAN CLEAN THINGS OUT PRETTY EASILY.
IT'S, UM, FOR ANY KIND OF EVENT THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT WANNA ENTERTAIN.
IF COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
UM, TAKING OFF MY, MY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAT FOR A MOMENT AND PUTTING ON THE WORK GROUP, UH, THE, THE WORK GROUP HAT, UH, IS THE, UH, THE PLANS FOR THE, THE BUILDINGS, IS IT STILL PLANNED THAT THE BARN FOR THE MOMENT WILL NOT BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED? UM, CORRECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE FANS AND LIGHTS.
AND RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE NOT SEEING HOW THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT HAVING A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE BUILDING.
SO THE EXTERIOR AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR.
WELL, I THINK THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT.
WE JUST, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I THINK, UM, WE WANNA DO IT VERY WELL AND WITH THE MINIMAL IMPACT AND WITH THE MINIMAL, UM, IMPACT TO THE STRUCTURE AND VISUAL EFFECT.
'CAUSE THAT WOOD IS SO COOL TO LOOK AT.
UM, I'VE BEEN DOING RESEARCH IN OTHER HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND LOOKING, EXCUSE ME, AT OUR OPTIONS.
SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S OFF THE PLATE, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT I CALL PHASE ONE RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE ARE DOING, UH, HEATING AND COOLING IN THE HOUSE THOUGH.
IF I COULD INTERJECT, AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT SANDY HAD SAID, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO USE THE BUILDINGS, SEE HOW, HOW THEY'RE USED, AND THEN TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, IS, IS, IS THIS BEING UNDERUTILIZED? UM, AND IF IT IS, AND WE DO WANT TO CONDITION THE BUILDINGS, CONDITION THE BUILDINGS, THAT JUST MEANS PUTTING IN, UH, THE HVAC EQUIPMENT.
IT ALSO MEANS YOU NOW HAVE TO INSULATE AND WEATHER STRIP AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO, UH, THEN WHAT WILL BE THAT VISUAL, UM, UH, EFFECT OF ALL OF THAT KNOWING THAT, YES.
UM, FOR HISTORIC PURPOSES, IT'S THE OUTSIDE WE LOOK AT, UH, YES, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT, UH, WE LOOK AT, UM,
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ADAPTING THE INSIDE FOR USE.SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING WITHIN THE NEXT, I DON'T KNOW, SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS.
UM, AND ONE OTHER THING WITH THE WORKING GROUP, UM, TIE IN, UH, THE, THE BENCHES THAT PEOPLE WANNA DONATE, IS THAT GONNA BE TIED TO THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM THAT WORKING GROUP? YES.
YES, UH, SANDY AND I HAD MET AND, UH, SHE DOES HAVE A COPY OF OUR SITE PLAN AND, AND KNOWS THAT WHEN THEY'RE DONATED, HERE'S WHERE WE HAD WANTED TO DO THAT.
BUT, BUT EVEN THEN, UM, BEING OUT ON SITE SOMETIMES GIVES, GIVES YOU AN EITHER EVEN BETTER PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE TO PLACE THOSE.
AND AS THE PART DEVELOPS, OBVIOUSLY, UH, DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND NEW VISTAS WILL OPEN UP AND YEAH.
UM, DO WE WANNA MOVE TO D UH, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, IS MAYBE WITH SANDY HERE, WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE DEEPER DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, LAST TIME WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, UH, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WORKING WITH THE TWO OF YOU TO, TO, UM, ON THE CELEBRATION, THE GRAND OPENING, ALL THAT STUFF, TYING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION THEME INTO THE GRAND OPENING.
UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, UH, DO WE HAVE A GRAND OPENING DATE? WE STILL JUST HAVE A RANGE WE'RE TARGETING AND, UM, YEAH.
UM, 'CAUSE WHAT'S DIFFICULT IS, IS THAT APRIL DATE, THEY DIDN'T LET US KNOW UNTIL WE WERE EXPECTING THEM ON SITE THAT IT HADN'T EVEN GOTTEN ON THE BOAT YET.
COME OVER OH, THE, THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.
SO, UM, WE WERE, IT'S STILL IN EUROPE,
THAT'S KIND OF A LONG WAYS OFF Y'ALL.
UM, SO I THINK AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE DATE AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S ON THE SHIP AND IT'S COMING, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE FOLLOWING UP, UM, WITH THEM AND GETTING, UH, BIWEEKLY IF NOT MONTHLY UPDATES FROM THEM ON THE STATUS.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PLAN AHEAD FOR A GRAND OPENING.
AND I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR ALSO WANTS TO DO A GRAND OPENING MM-HMM.
AND, UM, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF THINGS PLANNED, BUT EVERYONE'S LIKE, AH,
AND I, I THINK WITH THAT GRAND OPENING, I THINK IT CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS.
I THINK JUST LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE THREE OF US GET TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY CAN WEIGH IN WITH SOME, UH, UH, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ASPECT FOR SURE OF IT.
AND, UM, MAKE SURE THAT'S INCORPORATED SINCE THE, THE BARN AND THE, THE HOUSE ARE SUCH VITAL COMPONENTS OF THE PARK.
AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE PERFECT WEATHER, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AFTER FALL.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER, UM, EARLY NOVEMBER, HOPEFULLY THAT THAT WOULD BE THE YEAH.
I DON'T SEE THIS AS A BAD THING NECESSARILY,
THIS WILL JUST MAKE IT A LOT MORE PLEASANT
UM, I THINK STILL THERE'S ALWAYS REASON TO CELEBRATE HISTORIC ASPECTS, ESPECIALLY IN A PARK SUCH AS THIS.
HEY, PUT THAT ON A PLAQUE SOMEWHERE.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE, BOB OR JACK? UH, I'M, I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTERIOR FINISH FOR THE HOUSE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER, UM, ARIANA SAID TO US WHEN WE WERE AT THE, THE CLG MEETING WAS ATTEMPTING TO RECREATE THAT SENSE OF PLACE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT FURNISHING AND DECORATING, YOU KNOW, IN THE STYLE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TYPICAL IN 1917 INTO THE, INTO THE TWENTIES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE GIVEN THAT SOME MORE THOUGHT OR WHERE WE ARE ON THAT AT ALL YOU WANT.
SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, WE'RE DOING VANILLA, UM, SO WE'RE GETTING IT SO THAT IT'S CLEAN AND IT, UM, SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANY KIND OF THEME ON IT.
UM, OUR, UM, INTERIOR RESTORATION IS, UM, IT'S JUST GETTING IT SO IT'S CLEAN.
AND THEN FROM THERE IT CAN BE, UH, MODIFIED AND DECORATED.
AND I THINK, UM, I'LL LEAVE STEVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING FURTHER.
WE HAVE, UH, HAD SOME LINES, UH, POSSIBLE LINES ON SOME ARTIFACTS THAT WE CAN PLACE IN THERE.
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UH, AN A I SAY WESO, UM, AT THIS POINT, AS SANDY SAID, THE, THE HI, HIS FOCUS IS TO PROVIDE THAT VANILLA BOX AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON THE DES THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE INTERIOR.
BUT THE LAYOUT WILL BE WHAT, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, UH, HAS STAYED THE SAME AS TO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST.
AND THAT HAS TAKEN DOWN THE WALL, EXTENDING THE FRONT ROOM, UH, FOR MORE, UH, USES, UM, AND, UH, UH, CREATING A PASS THROUGH TO THE BACK, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A, A LARGER ROOM TO DISPLAY, UH, PERIOD PIECES, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS AND, AND THE LIKE.
AND YOU'VE FLIPPED THE WET WALL, I BELIEVE, UH, SO THAT TO MAKE, TO ACCOMMODATE AN EXTRA, EXTRA RESTROOM AN A DA ACCESSIBLE, YEAH.
THAT, THAT RESTROOM IS STILL PART OF THE, THE PLAN.
COMMISSIONER HUGGINS, ANYTHING? WELL, AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER,
I MEAN, I JUST FELT THAT THE PARK NEEDED AN INTERPRETING THEME OR A, A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHO, WHO'S GOING TO BE GETTING TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR INTERPRETING THINGS IN THE HOUSE.
I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE ALREADY DOING INTERPRETING STUFF OUTDOORS, AND I'M, I'M, I'M WILLING TO DO IT.
I SPENT THREE ONE YEARS AS A RANGER, SO I CAN, I THINK I CAN ADD SOME SOMETHING TO THAT.
WELL, THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY SANDY AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN BRINGING FORTH THE INTERIOR DRAWINGS TO HPC, UM, EVEN THOUGH THE, UH, THE SCOPE OF HPC IS, IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THE OUTSIDE OF THESE BUILDINGS, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHETHER IT'S OUTSIDE OR INSIDE HISTORY IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL ABOUT AND, AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE, UH, CELEBRATING, IF YOU WILL.
SO THAT IS A GOOD REASON AS TO WHY SHE AND HER TEAM ARE INCORPORATING HPC INTO THESE DISCUSSIONS.
OTHERWISE, IT, YOU KNOW, IT NORMALLY WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THE SCOPE HERE.
UM, MOVING ON TO B WHICH BECOMES C
UM, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THIS PAGE HERE.
BASICALLY, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE, WHERE WE WERE AT WITH THE LANDMARKING PROCESS, AND SO THE BRONZE PLAQUES, UH, HAVE BEEN ORDERED.
UM, THEY TAKE ABOUT A MONTH TO BE MADE.
UM, I WENT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT SITES TO LOOK AT, UH, LENGTH OF TIME AND, AND COSTS.
AND AS IT TURNS OUT, GOING THROUGH ONE OF OUR LOCAL PROPRIETORS, UM, GAVE US WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WAS GIVING US.
SO, UH, WE GAVE IT TO THE, ONE OF OUR LOCAL PROPRIETORS.
SO, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE THESE PLAQUES RIGHT NOW WITHIN, HOPEFULLY THREE WEEKS BASED UPON THE MONTH ESTIMATE I WAS GIVEN A WEEK AGO.
THESE ARE, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, HERE, THEY ARE GONNA BE, UH, 12 INCHES WIDE, UH, NINE INCHES HIGH, QUARTER INCH THICK.
AND SO WE WENT WITH A SMALLER, A SLIGHTLY SMALLER SIZE, AND THEY WILL BE SCREW ON INSTEAD OF THE STUD TYPE SO THAT, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS LIKE, UH, UH, 56 LINKS, UM, CAN HAVE THEM APPLY IT EASIER.
AND THAT ACTUALLY LEADS ME TO A QUESTION IS, UH, ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN CHARGE OF INSTALLING THESE, OR, UH, DOES THE CITY INSTALL THESE OR DO WE HAVE THEM, DO YOU HAVE THEM MADE AND YOU DELIVER
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'EM TO, UH, THE KIVA HOUSE AND LIKE IT'S ON THEM TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT? OR? UH, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.SINCE I'M IS NEW TO THIS PROCESS AS YOU ARE
ARE THERE, ARE THERE RULES ABOUT, UH, IT HAS TO BE VISIBLE OR ANYTHING? OR IS IT JUST A CONVENIENT PLACE ON THE PROPERTY? IT SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE OR OUT BY THE STREET, SO THEY'RE VISIBLE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE PAYING FOR THEM.
WELL, THAT'S MY THOUGHT, BUT
JUST 'CAUSE I WANT IT THAT WAY DOESN'T MAKE IT SO
UM, IT'S ALL IN THE INTENT OF WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT THIS IS FOR.
UM, AND THAT COULD LEAD INTO, UM, REGULAR BUSINESS DISCUSSION E NOW
AND SO WE WANT IT TO BE OUT FRONT, UH, VISIBLE BY AS MUCH AS THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THAT IS WHY THIS IS BEING GIVEN.
SO I WOULD USE THAT SAME THOUGHT PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY LISTED AS SUCH IN CODE SOMEWHERE.
UM, THE REASON FOR GRANTING THIS IS TO SHOW THE PUBLIC TO IDENTIFY TO THE PUBLIC ITS LANDMARK STATUS, ITS HISTORIC STATUS, SO, OKAY.
LET'S, LET'S CALL THIS, UH, B OLD B AND E, OLD E TOGETHER.
UM, SO, UH, IF I COULD ELABORATE ON OLD PLEASE.
UM, I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT IF, BY ACCEPTING THIS, IT WOULD LIMIT THEIR USE OF THE BUILDING AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE.
AND I DID LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
THIS IS NOT LIKE LANDMARKING A A BUILDING.
SO THIS IS JUST GIVING THEM, UH, US CELEBRATING WHAT THIS BUILDING, UH, IS AND ITS HISTORIC CONTENT.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S ALL THAT IT IS.
UH, AND SO IT WILL NOT REIL, THEY HAVE AGREED TO ACCEPT, UH, THE AWARD, IF YOU WILL, THE PLAQUE.
UM, THEY HAVE ASKED IF THEY COULD GET BACK TO US AS TO WHEN IT COULD BE PRESENTED TO THEM AND IN WHAT FASHION.
UM, I ASKED IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE IT HERE AT A HPC MEETING OR IF THEY WOULD LIKE A SMALL GET TOGETHER ON THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE THEIR, UH, THEIR ESTABLISHMENT AND, UM, PERFECTLY ON A DAY IT'S 110 DEGREES.
AND WITH THE STORM CLOUDS LOOMING.
THEY, THEY ASKED IF, IF THEY COULD GET BACK TO US, UM, AND I'LL PROBABLY HEAR FROM THEM AT THE END OF THIS WEEK OR, OR NEXT WEEK, BUT THEY ARE UP FOR THE PROCESS.
UH, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS ON OLD B AND OLD D
ANYTHING COUNCIL OR, UH, COMMISSIONER HUGGINS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
DONNA, CAN YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT, UH, WE AFFIXED A PLAQUE ON A LANDMARK THAT YOU MEAN INSTALLED IT? YEP.
UH, I MAY BE WRONG, BUT AS I RECALL, I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE INSTALLED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN STEVE EGNER OFFERED TO DO SOME, BUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS NEVER INSTALLED 'EM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
I, I SEEM TO REMEMBER IT'S BEEN AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS SINCE ONE OF THOSE PLAQUES HAS BEEN AFFIXED TO A BUILDING.
WELL, I THINK IT'S BEEN PROBABLY FURTHER BACK THAN THAT SINCE THE LAST 11 YEARS.
BUT AT ANY RATE, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLIC WORKS AFFIXED ALL OF THOSE.
I THINK RECENTLY THAT WASN'T STILL DONE
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BY THEM, BUT I KNOW, WELL, SANDY LEFT, SO WE CAN MAKE HER LIKE GET ASSIGNED IT TO HER ANYWAY.ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE FROM SEF ON EITHER OF THOSE? UM, NO, ONLY THAT, UM, IT JUST CAME TO LIGHT THAT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO INSTALL THE PLAQUE ON, UH, THE COWBOY CLUB WOULD BE IF WE WERE ALSO TO OBTAIN A FRAME FOR IT, THAT THERE'S NO WAY IT'S GOING TO STAND UP.
WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FILM THAT WE PUT ON IT.
UM, UH, THAT FILM IS REMOVABLE FOR THE REASON, IF IT GETS DAMAGED, YOU CAN REMOVE IT, PUT ANOTHER FILM BACK ON IT.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, IT, IT'S YOUR DIRECTION.
I WILL GO AND TRY TO FIND A WOODEN FRAME, IF YOU WILL, UH, IN WHICH TO INSTALL THE PLAQUE AND THEN MAKE IT EASIER TO INSTALL THE PLAQUE ON THE BUILDING.
COMMISSIONER HUGINS, UM, IN TALKING TO THE LANDOWNER, HAS HE DECIDED ON A PLACEMENT WHERE IT WILL GO? OR WE'RE NOT AT THIS POINT YET, IF I COULD, UH, ANSWER THAT? UM, NO, THEY'VE BEEN, UM, I'VE BEEN THROUGH A FEW BACK AND FORTH EMAILS AND JUST BASICALLY TO GET THE APPROVAL TO, TO GIVE IT TO THEM.
UM, AND IN MY EMAILS, I HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE SPECIFIC LOCATION ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WAS NOT DISCUSSED.
WAS THERE OTHER OPTIONS? MM-HMM.
WELL, UH, I WAS GONNA ASK, IS THERE A LOCATION PERHAPS, UH, COMMISSIONER HUGGINS THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND? I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HUGGINS HAD PICKED ONE OUT OR IDENTIFIED ONE OR TWO, RIGHT? YEAH, I'VE IDENTIFIED TWO OR THREE AREAS THAT WAS ON A HANDOUT THAT MM-HMM.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? OKAY.
MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR BUSINESS, FORMERLY KNOWN AS C, DISCUSSION OF THE JUNE SHIPPO CONFERENCE AND THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE ATTENDEES.
UM, I DID NOT ATTEND THE FULL CONFERENCE.
I ATTENDED THE, UH, TUESDAY PRE-CONFERENCE, UH, ON CLG TRAINING.
AND, UH, I FOUND IT ACTUALLY, UH, VERY INTERESTING.
NORMALLY THOSE SESSIONS TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT BORING, BUT, UM, THEY HAVE A LIVELY GROUP NOW IN SHIPPO AND HIGH ENERGY, AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN MAKING THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT MOST OF THE FOCUS WAS ON SHIPPO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS IT SEEMED LIKE SEVERAL OF THE CL GS, AND THERE ARE 30 OF THEM IN THE STATE, ARE WORKING ON REVISING AND UPDATING THEIR, UH, LAND USE CODES AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.
AND, UH, SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING, SHIPPO'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO REMIND THE CL GS, UH, USUALLY WITH A MODEL THAT THEY USE, UH, IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT OR LAND USE CODE.
AND, UM, FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY WORKING ON HARD AT SHIPPO IS, UH, SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM SHIPPO.
UH, THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY DO FOR THESE CGS AND, AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN CERTAIN ISSUES THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED MUCH ABOUT.
UH, MOSTLY BECAUSE THESE ARE IN THE LARGER METROPOLITAN AREAS, ONE OF THEM BEING, UH, ISSUES WITH, UH, LAND INFILL PROPERTIES, UH, IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UH, WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS ARE YOU GOING TO USE AND, AND ACTUALLY HOW DO YOU DEFINE IT? AND ANOTHER ONE IS ISSUES WITH REPURPOSING.
UH, ONE OF THE, UH, SLIDES THAT THEY SHOWED DURING THEIR PRESENTATION WAS BASICALLY ALL IT WAS, WAS A FACADE AND
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THERE WAS NOTHING BEHIND IT.AND WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING IN THEIR REPURPOSING WAS BUILDING A BUILDING TO THE FACADE.
AND, UH, AND WHICH IS SOMETHING I HAD NOT, NOT SEEN BEFORE.
I'VE, I'VE SEEN ENVELOPE BUILDINGS BEFORE WHERE THEY REBUILT THE INTERIOR STRUCTURE, BUT NOTHING LIKE THAT.
AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR POSSIBILITY OF FORMING MORE CGS.
UH, ONE OF THE LADIES THAT I MET AT THE, UH, AT THE MEETING WAS FROM PARADISE VALLEY.
AND SO THAT WILL BE, UH, PROBABLY A NEW CLG THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED, UH, AT THE NUMBER OF, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY FOUND IN PAR IN THE CITY LIMITS OF PARADISE VALLEY.
YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO JUST THE, THE OLD RELIABLES, LIKE THE HERMOSA INN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY'VE DISCOVERED ALL KINDS OF FORMER LODGES AND SO FORTH THAT WERE ACTUALLY CREATED ORIGINALLY AS KIND OF A GLORIFIED, UH, BED AND BREAKFAST PROPERTY, SOME OF THEM WITH AS MANY AS 12 UNITS.
UH, SO ANYWAY, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COMING UP.
AND, UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECEIVED WAS THIS BINDER.
AND THIS BINDER HAS SOME TREMENDOUS, UM, RESOURCES IN IT.
AND, AND THEY'VE EVEN GOT, UH, IT SEPARATED BY, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE, UH, RESOURCES GENERALLY GENERAL PLANNING, LONG RANGE PLANNING, AND CURRENT PLANNING, UH, ALONG WITH OTHER RESOURCES, WHICH, UH, MAKES IT A VALUABLE DOCUMENT.
AND THE, THE ONE THING THAT SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT I THOUGHT INTERESTED ME MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE WAS A LINK FOR A SITE CALLED PLACE ECONOMICS, BECAUSE IT PROVIDES AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO DEVELOP OR REDEVELOP THESE, UH, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTIES, UH, WITH A POSITIVE BOTTOM LINE.
AND SO, UH, SO THAT'S AVAILABLE.
AND THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST FOR A MINUTE, THAT, UH, THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET THE, UH, INDIAN TRIBES, UH, INVOLVED IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AND, UH, THE TRIBES HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION IN THAT, UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF THE, UH, THE YAVAPAI APACHES, UH, ABOUT, UM, SITES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH OF COURSE, THE TRIBES DO NOT WANT TO RELEASE BECAUSE THEY'RE SACRED SITES.
AND SO, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY APPRECIATED OUR INTEREST, UH, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE BASICALLY TURNED DOWN, AND OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT WE FIND ALL OVER THE STATE.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE USED TO, ANY LANDMARKING ON TRIBAL PROPERTY WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY.
SO, UH, SO THE CONCENTRATION WITH SHIPPO RIGHT NOW WITH THE TRIBES HAS BEEN ON ARCHEOLOGICAL DATA AND PRESERVATION OF SACRED SITES.
AND, UH, I THINK IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S, I THINK WHERE WE SUM THAT UP PRETTY WELL.
THEY, THEY USED, UH, A LOT OF TERMS, SOME THAT WERE NEW, NEW TO ME, AND I HAD TO LOOK UP.
AND ONE THAT THEY USED A LOT AT THE START WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, SHIPPO OBVIOUSLY STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
UM, BUT THEN THEY, THEY SAID PPO A BUNCH OF TIMES, AND I WAS LIKE, SOMEBODY HAVE A, A, A LIST, YOU KNOW, A LISP OR SOMETHING? NO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, TRIBAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
SO, UH, AND THAT, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN EMPHASIS THAT WAS AN EMPHASIS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CONFERENCE.
UM, I THINK, UH, THE ONLY THING I'D ADD TO YOUR EXCELLENT SUMMARY OF, OF THE CLG TRAINING, WHICH I, I THOUGHT TOO WAS, UH, PROBABLY THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE, THE CONFERENCE FRANKLY, UM, WAS, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT CHANGE IS, IS INEVITABLE, RIGHT? AND SO ONE OF THE LESSONS FROM THE, THE EXAMPLE THAT, THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED WITH THE FACADE, WITH THE BUILDING BUILT TO THE FACADE, IT, IT WAS, UH, BROUGHT UP AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'VE GOTTA COMPROMISE.
SOMETIMES WE'VE GOTTA DO THINGS WE DON'T WANT TO DO, BUT IF WE'RE SAVING SOME OF THE HISTORY, WE'VE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, SWALLOW HARD AND, AND TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS WAS THE BEST WE COULD DO TO SAVE THIS BUILDING.
UM, SO I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME VALUABLE LESSONS IN THAT TOO.
WELL, THE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME ABOUT
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THE FACADE, IT WAS FOR A FORMER AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP, AND, UM, AND THEY ENDED UP BUILDING APARTMENTS AND OFFICE SPACE BEHIND IT.IT, IT WAS NOT ONLY REPURPOSED IN TERMS OF, UH, OF ITS CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF ITS USE.
AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE CONFERENCE CAME UP, AND ESPECIALLY A LOT OF SCHOOLS TO, UH, APARTMENTS OR SCHOOLS TO, UH, UH, WORKER HOUSING OR SCHOOLS TO SENIOR HOUSING, UM, PROJECTS, UH, WHICH WAS INTERESTING.
I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A BIG BUILDING THAT'S SEGMENTED, SO I, I GUESS THERE'S SOME LOGIC TO THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES I WENT TO, UM, LITTLE HIT AND MISS
UH, SPEAKING OF THE, THE DIPPOS, UM, THAT WAS ABOUT, UH, IT WAS BY A MEMBER OF THE HOPI TRIBE WHO'S IN CHARGE OF, UM, CULTURAL REPATRIATION, UH, OF ITEMS THAT HAVE LEFT HOPI AND ARE NOW COMING BACK ITEMS AND HUMAN REMAINS.
UM, AND IT WAS REALLY HEART WRENCHING, UM, FRANKLY, UM, BECAUSE HE'S THE ONLY HOPI MEMBER ASSIGNED TO THIS, AND IN HOPI, UM, IT'S, IT'S TABOO TO HANDLE THE DEAD.
AND SO THESE HUMAN REMAINS COME BACK, AND HE'S REALLY KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PRY IS NOT QUITE THE RIGHT WORD, BUT I, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY FROWNED DOWN UPON WHAT HE DOES, UH, IN HOPI, BUT, UH, TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN HOPI.
BUT HE, HE WANTS TO DO IT, NOT BECAUSE HE LIKES DOING IT, BUT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE SO THAT HIS CHILDREN AND HIS CHILDREN'S CHILDREN DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REPATRIATION.
HE WANTS IT TO JUST BE DONE WITH HIS GENERATION SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY A TRULY A HEARTBREAKING STORY LISTENING TO HIM.
UM, AND, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, STEVE AND I BOTH, UH, ATTENDED THAT ONE.
UM, AND, UH, UM, WE, WE ASKED IF HE'D COME AND SPEAK IN SEDONA SOMETIME AND SHARE HIS STORY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REALLY A VALUABLE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I WENT TO A, A SESSION ABOUT THE, THE, UM, UH, MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM, NEW MEXICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM IN TUCSON THAT'S IN THE OLD SOSA CARILLO HOUSE, UH, DOWN THERE IN THE OLD BARRIO.
UM, AND THEY'RE DOING SOME REALLY FASCINATING THINGS TO REJUVENATE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BY SAVING THAT HOUSE.
UM, AND, UM, THEY OPENED THEIR SESSION WITH A, A REALLY GREAT QUESTION, WHICH IS, WHO IS PRESERVATION FOR? AND WHAT THEY POINTED OUT WAS THAT WHEN THAT HOUSE WAS PUT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, IT WAS PUT ON AS THE FREMONT HOUSE BECAUSE GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR FREMONT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIVED THERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF THAT.
IT'S JUST KIND OF ORAL TRADITION.
UM, AND THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO SOSA CARILLO FREMONT HOUSE.
UH, AND NOW THERE'S A PUSH WITH THE MEXICAN AMERICAN, UM, MUSEUM BEING IN THERE TO SAY, FREMONT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS HOUSE.
THIS IS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE, UM, AND REALLY EMPHASIZED THE, THE MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE IN THE AREA.
UM, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY FASCINATING.
UM, I WENT TO A, A SESSION I REALLY HOPED WOULD BE INTERESTING THAT IT WAS ABOUT THE A ZGO PROJECT, WHICH IS, UH, USING GIS MAPPING TO KIND OF STORY MAP, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, AND THERE'S SOME INTERESTING THINGS PEOPLE ARE DOING WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK A ZGO IS JUST FRANKLY NOT USER FRIENDLY.
AND, AND, UH, UNLESS YOU'VE GOT A, AN IT STAFF TO REALLY HELP YOU ALONG WITH IT, I DON'T SEE THE VALUE IN THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, UM, OFF THE SHELF, EASY TO USE, UM, UH, PROGRAMS OUT THERE.
UM, SO I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.
UH, AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER TWO THINGS I WANTED TO, TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO, I, DONNA, THANK YOU FOR SENDING OUT THOSE DOCUMENTS EARLIER.
UM, IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T CHECKED YOUR EMAIL, I, I SENT A COUPLE DOCUMENTS OUT THAT I THOUGHT OUR COMMISSIONERS SHOULD HAVE IN THEIR HANDS, UM, FROM THE LAST COUPLE SESSIONS THAT I WENT TO ON THE LAST DAY.
UM, ONE IS THE ARIZONA PRESERVATION TRACKER.
YOU CAN HIT THAT QR CODE ON THERE OR TYPE IN THAT, UH, URL ON THAT PAGE, AND YOU CAN GO SEE WHAT IT IS OR, OR YOU CAN GO ADD TO IT.
THE TRACKER ITSELF IS NOT LIVE YET.
THE DATABASE ISN'T LIVE, BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS JUST, UM, TAKING INVENTORY OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS, UH, ALL ACROSS ARIZONA SO ANYONE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO IT.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, THEY KIND OF STARTED WITH THE IDEA OF WE WANNA
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KNOW ENDANGERED BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT ARIZONA, BUT IT, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IT'S REALLY BE, KIND, KIND OF BECOME LIKE THE DATABASE OF, UH, HISTORIC BUILDINGS.SO KIND OF AN INTERESTING THING, SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT ADDING SEDONA PROPERTIES TO, UM, WHO DOES THE WORK? I DON'T KNOW.
I'D NOMINATE STAFF, BUT I BET STAFF DOESN'T NOMINATE THEMSELVES.
UH, AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER DOCUMENT I SENT OUT IS, UH, THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WORKSHEET FROM PRESERVE AZ, UM, ARIZONA PRESERVATION FOUNDATION WENT THROUGH AND PUT TOGETHER, UM, A LIST OF FUNDING SOURCES FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS, UM, FROM THE NATIONAL LEVEL RIGHT DOWN TO, UH, REGIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL.
I DON'T THINK IT REALLY FUNCTIONS WELL AS A WORKSHEET.
I JUST KIND OF TOOK IT MORE AS A LIST OF, UH, HERE'S WHERE TO GET MONEY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
UM, BUT REALLY AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE AND, AND TWO PAGES.
UM, THAT WAS WHEN, UM, YEARS AGO WHEN THEY DECIDED OR ACTUALLY, UM, PROPOSED TO TEAR DOWN THE, UH, VISITOR CENTER UP AT PAINTED DESERT.
THERE WERE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO SAID, NO, WE NEED TO PRESERVE THIS THING.
AND THERE WERE NO FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO IT.
AND SO THE TEAM THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER ACTUALLY SURVEYED A LOT OF THESE, AND THEY HAD ENOUGH MONEY COME TOGETHER TO WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY RENEW THAT CENTER TO MAKE IT LOOK JUST LIKE IT DID IN 1962.
AND, UH, AND IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT AND VERY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF OUTSIDE FUNDING.
I'M ON THE HOT SEAT NOW, RIGHT? I GOTTA ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
UM, MOVING ON, FUTURE MEETING DATES.
LOOKS LIKE, UH, AUGUST 12TH WOULD BE OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
UM, DO WE USUALLY TAKE A SPRING OR A SPRING, SPRING BREAK,
UM, BUT THIS IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF TRYING TO FIND OUT IF, IF THE COMMISSIONER'S AVAILABLE TONIGHT, EXCUSE ME.
UH, KNOW IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, THIS NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING, OR IF YOU WOULD IN FACT, LIKE TO TAKE A SUMMER HIATUS.
YEAH, I MEAN, I'VE GOT THE DATES ON MY CALENDAR, UM, JUST BLOCKED OUT.
SO I WOULD ASK THEN, UM, ARE THERE ANY AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU KNOW OF NOW THAT YOU LIKE TO PUT ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING? MM-HMM.
I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT A SURPRISE.
NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS MOMENT, BUT, OKAY.
UM, SO THE FUTURE MEETING DATE, UH, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE AUGUST 12TH AT 4:00 PM UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I DON'T BELIEVE.
AND, UH, I GUESS AT THAT POINT WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING.
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