* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. THERE HE IS. [00:00:01] OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. [1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE] WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. JOIN ME FOR, FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. JUSTICE. AND NOW A MOMENT OF SILENCE, IF YOU WILL. OKAY. THANK YOU MADAM DEPUTY CLARK, WOULD YOU DO [2. ROLL CALL] THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR BLO. PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU. HERE. COUNSELOR DUNN. PRESENT COUNCILLOR FOLTZ? HERE. COUNCILLOR FURMAN. PRESENT. COUNCILLOR KINSELLA? HERE. COUNCILLOR WILLIAMSON? HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, VICE MAYOR, YOU HAVE A, UH, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION ] MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OKAY. FOR THE PURPOSE OF LEGAL ADVICE. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AND YOU OPPOSED? IT WILL BE TAKEN ABOUT 10, 15 MINUTE BREAK FOR MINUTES. [3.a. AB 3025 Discussion/possible direction regarding the findings and recommendations of the Airport Assessment. ] ITEM THREE, A SPECIAL BUSINESS AB 30 25. DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE AIRPORT ASSESSMENT. ANDY, YOU HAVE WANNA START OFF, MR. MAYOR? COULD IC COULD, COULD I MAKE A, UH, REQUEST OF THE DAIS? SURE. UM, HAVING READ THROUGH THE PACKET, UM, AND, UH, HAVING A STRONG INTUITION THAT THERE MAY BE A MINIMAL DEGREE OF INTEREST IN, UH, PROCEEDING WITH, UH, A TAKEOVER OF THE AIRPORT, COULD WE POSSIBLY HAVE A STRAW POLE TO SEE, UH, WHAT DEGREE OF INTEREST THERE IS? UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO A GREAT DEAL OF DEPTH OF Q AND A AND, UH, SO FORTH, WE COULD DO THAT. OR I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANDY GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT HE'S PREPARED, UH, AND THEN BEFORE WE GO INTO, UH, A Q AND A, UH, WE COULD DO IT AFTER HE'S GIVEN HIS PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL? I AGREE. MM-HMM? . OKAY, ANDY. SO GO FOR IT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE HERE TO, UH, PRESENT THE SEDONA AIRPORT ASSESSMENT. I DO HAVE ED ROSE HERE, THE SEDONA AIRPORT GENERAL MANAGER TO HELP WITH THE PRESENTATION. LET'S SEE, WHILE ED WILL BE PROVIDING THE, HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THE OVERALL, UM, VIEW OF THE AIRPORT, I'LL BE COVERING THE ASSESSMENT AS PROVIDED BY OUR CONSULTANT AVIATION MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT GROUP, OR A MCG. THIS ASSESSMENT IS COMPRISED OF FOUR CATEGORIES, THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT, THE CAPITAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THE REGULATIONS ASSESSMENT, AND THE FINANCIAL AND OBLIGATIONS ASSESSMENT. AND THEN FINALLY, I, I PLAN TO GO OVER THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR CITY SPONSORSHIP AND OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRPORT. SO, FIRST, WE'VE GOT THIS OVERVIEW SLIDE FOR ED TO GIVE US A BRIEF HE PROMISED OVERVIEW OF THE AIRPORT. THANK YOU. AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSELORS. GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. PLEASURE. LET'S START OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY. UM, THE HISTORY OF THE AIRPORT, THE LAYOUT, A BRIEF DESCRIPTION, THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE, FACILITIES, UH, OPERATIONS, THE AIRCRAFT, UTILIZING THE AIRPORT, THE OPERATORS THAT ARE ON THE AIRPORT, AND THE FBO, THE FIXED BASED OPERATOR. STARTING WITH HISTORY, OCTOBER, 1956, THE, UH, SECTION 16 LAND GRANT OF 220 ACRES FROM THE US FOREST SERVICE THROUGH THE FAA TO THE COUNTY OF YAVAPAI, UH, GRANTING 220 ACRES OF AVIATION BLISS TO THE SEDONA COMMUNITY. FEBRUARY OF 57, THE RUNWAY AND PARKING WERE INSTALLED WITH FAA GRANT, THE FIRST FA, A GRANT. IN THE SIXTIES, BARRY GOLDWATER ESTABLISHES THE MASONIC LODGE VIA AN ACT OF CONGRESS. CONTRARY TO FAA POLICY, 1970, THE SEDONA AIRPORT AUTHORITY CREATED WAS CREATED TO OPERATE THE AIRPORT ON BEHALF OF YAVAPAI COUNTY. IN 1983, THE SKYRIDGE LODGE OPENS 83, ALSO IS THE FIRST AIRPORT MASTER PLAN PREPARED TO PROVIDE DIRECTION FOR AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS. [00:05:02] IN 1991, CONSTRUCTION OF THE AIRPORT TERMINAL BUILDING TOOK PLACE. IN 92, THERE WAS AN UPDATE TO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN THAT INCLUDED MANY PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS, UH, MADE WITH FA AND A GRANTS. IN 1999, THERE WAS AN UPDATE TO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN. AND YOU CAN SEE BY THE TIME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 92 AND 99, UH, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT INTEREST AND UPDATING THE AIRPORTS MASTER PLAN. THAT MEANS THINGS ARE CHANGING FASTER THAN THE PLAN CAN ACHIEVE. SOME OF THE, UM, UH, GOALS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE PLAN. 1999, THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IS UPDATED AGAIN. IN 2017, THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATED AGAIN, AND WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 29 TO UPDATE IT ONCE MORE. THE LAYOUT OF THE AIRPORT, THE ONLY RUNWAY AT SEDONA, IS BASICALLY A NORTH SOUTH ORIENTATION, AS IS THE MAIN PARALLEL TAXIWAY STUB TAXIWAYS ARE ORIENTED EAST WEST. UH, THE RUNWAY ORIENTATION IS TYPICALLY BASED ON HISTORICAL WIND DATA. 27.45 ACRES OF THE 220 ACRES ARE IDENTIFIED AS NON-AVIATION SUPPORT REVENUE. THE OVERLOOK COMPRISES OF ABOUT 12.9 ACRES. SKY RANCH LODGE EXISTING IS 6.1 ACRES, AND THE MASONIC LODGE IS 3.85 ACRES, LEAVING A TOTAL OF 27.45 ACRES IS NON-AVIATION SUPPORT, REVENUE DEVELOPMENT. THE DESCRIPTION OF THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORT IS A SAFE AND EFFICIENT PUBLIC USE, GENERALLY, AVIATION AIRPORT. THERE IS NO SCHEDULED SERVICE. THE AIRPORT HOSTS TWO HELI TOUR AND ONE FIXED WING TOUR AND FLIGHT TRAINING OPERATOR. ALL OTHER USERS ARE PRIVATE OR CORPORATE OPERATORS. THE AIRPORT'S MANAGEMENT, THE AIRPORT, OPERATES UNDER A LONG-TERM LEASE TO THE SEDONA OAK CREEK AIRPORT AUTHORITY FROM YAVAPAI COUNTY. YAVAPAI COUNTY REMAINS THE AIRPORT SPONSOR. WHILE SOCA OPERATES THE AIRPORT ON BEHALF OF YAVAPAI COUNTY. SOCA ISN'T COMPRISE, IS COMPRISED OF A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS, PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO STAFF. STAFF CONSISTS OF THE AIRPORT MANAGER, AN OPERATIONS MANAGER, A BUSINESS MANAGER, AND SUPPORTING STAFF, THE AUTHORITY EMPLOYEES, A TOTAL OF 10 FULL-TIME AND 11 PART-TIME INDIVIDUALS FACILITIES. WE'VE GOT, UH, ONE RUNWAY, UM, ONE MAIN PARALLEL TAXIWAY, A FEW APRONS, UH, NAVIGATIONAL AIDS WITH, UH, PRECISION APPROACH PATH INDICATORS, UH, A BRAND NEW A OS THAT'S AN AUTOMATED WEATHER OBSERVATION SYSTEM. UH, LET'S SEE, SIX WIND SOCKS. UH, ABOUT 87 HANGERS. 74 OF WHICH ARE PRIVATE TERMINAL FACILITIES. AUTO PARKING, FUEL STORAGE, WHICH IS BRAND NEW. UM, INCREASING OUR FUEL STORAGE FROM JUST 10,000 GALLONS OF JET FUEL TO OVER 30,000 GALLONS OF JET FUEL. AND INCREASING OUR 100 LOW LEAD, UH, SUPPLY BY, UH, TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND GALLONS TO 12 FIVE. THE AIRPORT IS SURROUNDED BY A PERIMETER FENCE, AND IT'S INSPECTED MONTHLY. WE INCLUDE, UH, AN AIRPORT PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON A MONTHLY INSPECTION AS OUR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS OPERATIONS. THE, UH, AN AIRCRAFT OPERATION IS DEFINED AS EITHER A LANDING OR A TAKEOFF. THE TOTAL FOR SEDONA WAS 28,097 FOR 23. THE PROJECTION FOR 24 IS 33,000. AND I'LL MENTION THE AIRPORT'S MAIN SOURCES OF REVENUES ARE FUEL SALES LEASES AND INCOME FROM THE OVERLOOK. WHAT TYPE OF AIRCRAFT SERVICE OUR AIRPORT? WELL, WE'VE GOT ROCOS BY PLANES, SINGLE ENGINE, UH, AIRCRAFT, HELICOPTERS, MULTI-ENGINE TURBINE, SINGLE TURBINE, MULTI-ENGINE, UH, AND JET AIRCRAFT. FROM THE SMALL PERSONAL JETS TO THE LARGEST GLOBAL EXPRESS BUSINESS. JET OPERATORS AT THE AIRPORT INCLUDE SEDONA AIRWAYS, WHICH IS A NEW, UM, NEW ADDITION FOR THE AIRPORT GUIDANCE AVIATION. AND I CAN SEE JAMIE IS IN THE AUDIENCE THIS AFTERNOON. AND APEX AVIATION, THOSE TWO ARE HE TOUR OPERATORS, TRANSIENT OPERATORS. WE HANDLE THE LARGEST, UH, NET JET, FLEX JET, FLEX JET, UH, EXECUTIVE JET, AND A PLETHORA OF OTHER PART 1 35 OPERATORS. THE FBO, UH, RED ROCK AVIATION IS THE ONLY FIXED BASED OPERATOR ON THE AIRPORT. AND AS A DBA OF THE AUTHORITY, RED ROCK COLLECTS FEES, PROVIDES FUELS, PROVIDES A PU OR AUXILIARY POWER UNIT, STARTS AND LAB SERVICING FOR AIRCRAFT. RED ROCK FACILITATES TRANSPORTATION FOR PASSENGERS, CREWS, AND MOVES BAGGAGE. ALL STAFF ARE CROSS-TRAINED TO PERFORM FACILITY MAINTENANCE, INCLUDING HABITAT MANAGEMENT, LANDSCAPING AND SNOW REMOVAL. IN 23, UH, RED ROCK MOVE MORE THAN 375,000 GALLONS OF JET FUEL AND 110,000 GALLONS OF AGAS. THE JET FUEL WAS UP ABOUT 20%, AND AGAS IS UP ABOUT 10% YEAR OVER YEAR. [00:10:01] KEEPING IT BRIEF, THAT'S A LITTLE DESCRIPTION OF OUR AIRPORT. OKAY. SO, UH, ON THIS SLIDE HERE, WE HAVE A OUTLINE. WHOOPS, HERE WE GO OF A ZOOMED IN AREA HERE, TRYING TO DO THIS LEFT-HANDED. SO THE NEXT SLIDE ZOOMS IN ON, ON THAT AREA. WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE REMAINING LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO POINT THAT OUT? HERE'S A, IT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. THERE. OKAY. WE CHANGED HERE. OH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY, LET'S START, UH, ON THE, UH, LEFT WITH THE SKY RANCH LODGE. THIS IS THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE SKY RANCH LODGE. AS I SAID, UM, AROUND 19 81, 83, IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED. UH, SKY RANCH LODGE IS A, WHAT'S CALLED A, A NON-CONFORMING CONDITION AT THE AIRPORT. RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEEN NOTED BY THE FA AS A NON-COMPLIANT CONDITION. WHAT IS THE NON-COMPLIANT CONDITION? THE CONDITION IS THAT THERE'S NO MINIMUM RENT DUE. EVERYTHING IS PAID FOR ON A PERCENTAGE. SO I'VE WORKED WITH SKY RANCH LODGE PARTNERS TO CORRECT THAT LEASE, UH, AND OFFER AN EXPANSION OPPORTUNITY ON 4.6 ACRES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. AND THAT'S BEING WORKED PRESENTLY, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A, UH, A EIGHT INCH, UH, FIRE SUPPRESSION WATERLINE FROM OUR STORAGE, WHICH IS, UH, OH, SORRY, . THAT'S OKAY. UH, THAT LITTLE TANK ON THE, UH, ON THE POINTER THERE. UH, WE PLAN ON INCREASING THE FIRE SUPPRESSION WATER STORAGE, UH, BY 250,000 GALLONS WITHIN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS, UH, TO SUPPORT, UH, THE EXPANSION OF THE SKY RANCH LODGE, UH, AND ITS APARTMENTS, UH, OVER TO ITS RIGHT AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM SKY RANCH IS OUR SCENIC OVERLOOK. I'M SURE MOST OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THERE OR VISITED THERE, BROUGHT, UH, FAMILY OR FRIENDS THERE. UH, QUITE A, UH, AN ATTRACTIVE MONEY MAKER FOR THE AUTHORITY, AND THANK GOD WE HAVE IT, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 325,000 CARS A YEAR. NEXT WE HAVE THE SKY. HOLD ON. ED. YES. ASK MAYOR. GO AHEAD. UH, I'M CURIOUS, ED, IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH SKY RANCH LODGE MM-HMM, , DID YOU OFFER THEM THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE AND RETURN FOR FAA COMPLIANT ARRANGEMENT? NO, I SIMPLY TOLD 'EM THAT IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, ENTERTAIN AN EXPANSION, THAT THERE ARE, UH, CLAUSES WITHIN THE EXISTING CONTRACT THAT ALLOW ME TO MOVE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. CONTINUE IT. THANK YOU. SO WE WERE OVER TO THE, UH, FORMER MASONIC LODGE. UH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY BARRY GOLDWATER, CONTRARY GUIDANCE. I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THIS ONE. UH, THE, THE MASONS WERE NOT CHARGED ANY RENT. IT WAS A DOLLAR A YEAR. UM, THE THEN AIRPORT MANAGEMENT TRIED TO SATISFY THE NONCOMPLIANT CONDITION BY, UH, AGREEING WITH THE MASONS TO USE ONE OF ITS ROOMS TO, AND THEY SIGNED A VALUE OF ABOUT $3,000 A MONTH FOR THE USE OF THAT ROOM. THAT, UM, IN AIRPORT WORDS THAT DIDN'T FLY. UH, LET'S SEE. UH, AND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE, UH, MASONIC IS, UH, OAK CREEK WATER FIRE, UH, OAK CREEK WATER POTABLE WATER STORAGE. THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S, UH, AIRSIDE, I MEAN, LANDSIDE. AND I'M JUST ZOOMING BACK OUT FOR A SECOND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE AREA WITHIN THAT DOTTED LINE. UM, IT'S NOT A LOT OF AREA THAT'S LEFT AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT IS KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE THERE. THANK YOU, ED. GREAT JOB. STAND BRIEF, . I'M IMPRESSED. I, OKAY. SO GOING FORWARD TO THE OVERALL AIRPORT ASSESSMENT, THIS SECTION STARTS WITH LOOKING AT ZONING HISTORY. AND HISTORICALLY, THERE'S BEEN CONFUSION OVER JURISDICTION AND PROCESS FOR CODES AND ZONING. IN, IN FACT, IN 2022, THE CITY RESEARCHED THIS AND SENT A LETTER TO YAVAPAI COUNTY, CLARIFYING THE CITY HAS JURISDICTION OVER NON-AVIATION USE AT THE AIRPORT. THIS WAS THE BASIS OF THE ISSUE THAT LED THE CITY TO PURSUING THIS ASSESSMENT. AT THIS POINT, WE BELIEVE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY AND THE AIRPORT TO WORK TOGETHER, RATHER THAN NEEDING TO PURSUE OWNERSHIP AND, AND SPONSORSHIP. NEXT, THE ASSESSMENT LOOKED AT THE SWAT ANALYSIS. THIS IS THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREATS. SOME OF THE STRENGTHS THAT WERE MENTIONED [00:15:01] ARE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE AIRPORT. ED'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE AIRPORT IN THE FACILITIES AND GOOD MAINTENANCE. THE SERVICES PROVIDED AT THE AIRPORT WERE NOTED AS AT A GOOD LEVEL FOR THE SIZES OF, UH, OF AIRPORT THAT WE HAVE HERE. THE REVENUES AT THE AIRPORT ARE HEALTHY, AND THEY CITE TOURISM AS A BONUS, AS NOT EVERY AIR AIRPORT BENEFITS FROM THIS SOURCE OF DEMAND FOR SERVICE WEAKNESSES NOTED, INCLUDED, UM, AVIATION MAINTENANCE SERVICES. THIS IS THROUGH THIRD PARTIES. THEY FELT THAT THAT WAS NOT AT A LEVEL THAT THEY EXPECTED. UH, THEN ALSO UTILIZING, UH, I'M SORRY, I ALMOST SKIPPED AHEAD ON YOU THERE. UM, COSTS ARE CONSIDERED HIGH FOR EXPANSION. THAT WAS NOTED AS A WEAKNESS. THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, HAVING THE, UH, SEDONA OAK CREEK AIRPORT AUTHORITY OR SOCA, IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT IN AMC, G'S OPINION WAS CONSIDERED A WEAKNESS. I THINK ED WOULD LET YOU KNOW THAT OTHER AIRPORT, UH, MANAGERS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. SO I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT THAT'S AMC G'S OPINION. UM, LET'S SEE. THE NEXT DAY THEY NOTED THAT COMMUNITY PERCEPTION COULD BE BETTER. THIS IS AN AREA THAT, UM, ED, I'M SURE WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT HE'S DOING TO TRY TO PRO PROVIDE, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH. AND I WAS JOKING, . WE WON'T GO INTO ANY, I WASN'T LONG LIST, LONG LIST . THEN AS FAR AS, UH, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS, SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES LISTED WHILE TOURISM WAS NOTED AS A, AS A, A STRENGTH, IT'S ALSO CONSIDER CONSIDERED SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EXPANDED ON AND FURTHER UTILIZED AS ADDITIONAL NEED FOR SERVICE. AND THEN, UH, UTILIZING THE PHYSICAL SPACE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT IS AN OPPORTUNITY CONDUCTING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHICH AS I MENTIONED, ED IS, IS ALREADY WORKING ON, IS A OPPORTUNITY. AND FINALLY, THE, THE DEMAND FOR AERONAUTICAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY FELT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY. THEN LOOKING AT, UH, THREATS THAT THEY NOTED, THE FAA NON-COMPLIANCE ISSUES, UM, THEY NOTED AS AN ISSUE. AND I'LL, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN IN A SECOND. THEN, LITIGATION. THERE ARE ISSUES THAT THE CITY IS THE CITY. THAT'S, THAT'S A HABIT. SORRY. THERE ARE ISSUES THAT THE AIRPORT HAS WORKED THROUGH, SOME OF THOSE BEING LITIGATION. UM, ED CAN'T, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SPEAK TO A WHOLE LOT OF THAT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THE, I BELIEVE ALL OF THE CASES THAT ARE FINALIZED HAVE BEEN IN THE FAVOR OF THE AIRPORT. BUT SOME, SOME LITIGATION IS STILL PENDING. SO, UH, THEN ALSO TOURISM IS NOTICED, UH, NOTED AS A THREAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY AND A STRENGTH. THIS IS BECAUSE AMG A MCG FELT LIKE THE CITY'S, UH, INDUSTRY IS VERY HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON TOURISM. THEREFORE, IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT AFFECT, YOU KNOW, AN ECONOMY DOWNTURN OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, THEN THAT COULD AFFECT THE AIRPORT. SO, GOING INTO COMPLIANCE HISTORY IN THIS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT, THEY GO BACK AS FAR AS THE 1960S. UM, ED ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THAT EARLIER. SOME OF THESE, PROBABLY MANY OF THESE PREDATE THE EXISTENCE OF SOCA, AND MOST OF THEM PREDATE ED'S MANAGEMENT OF THE AIRPORT. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A RISK OF AIRPORT OWNERSHIP WITH COMPLIANCE ISSUES. FUNDING ELIGIBILITY IS AT RISK, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE HERE IN A BIT. THEN WE COVERED LITIGATION. THE NEXT ASSESSMENT IS THE CAPITAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT. LOOKING AT FUNDING SOURCES, OF COURSE, UM, THE AIRPORT UTILIZES A GOOD AMOUNT OF GRANT FUNDING. THIS IS BOTH FEDERAL, UH, FUNDING, WORKING THROUGH THE FAA AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, STATE FUNDING, WORKING THROUGH A DIVISION OF ADOT FOR STATE FUNDING, UH, GRANTS AND OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN LOCAL FUNDING. THE AIRPORT DOES UTILIZE LOCAL FUNDING FOR PROJECTS FOR MATCHING FUNDS, AS WELL AS IN SOME CASES, FULLY FUNDING PROJECTS FOR GRANT HISTORY. THE, THE NEED FOR FUNDING AND GRANTS IS KIND OF BASED ON THE 2017, UH, AIRPORT MASTER PLAN. THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE CAPITAL NEEDS [00:20:01] WERE ESTABLISHED. AND THEN THE ASSESSMENT LOOKS AT THE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS A MULTI-YEAR, YEAR, UH, PROGRAM, UH, ITSELF, THE MAJORITY OF THIS FUNDING IS EXPECTED TO COME FROM GRANT FUNDING, BOTH AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE, UH, LEVEL. YOU'LL SEE THAT A SMALL PORTION OF THAT IS, UH, NOT FROM FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING. LOOKING AT THE AIRPORT, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM ITSELF, THIS IS FOR, FOR THE SNAPSHOT THAT WE LOOKED AT. THE CAPITAL PROGRAM WAS FY 23 THROUGH FY 28. IT NOTED THE ASSESSMENT NOTED. ANYWAY, A TOTAL OF 134 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS AS, AS NEEDS FOR THE SHORT TERM. THERE'S LOTS OF THESE TABLES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE. NOT INTENDED TO BE LEGIBLE ON THIS SLIDE, BUT PROVIDED IN THE ASSESSMENT ITSELF, AND CERTAINLY LEGIBLE THERE. SHORT TERM, FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING IDENTIFIED, UH, FOR THAT FIVE YEAR TERM. UH, A LITTLE OVER 56 AND A, UH, AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS. SHORT TERM FOR LOCAL ONLY PROJECTS, UH, IDENTIFIED 26.4 MILLION. AND THEN LONG, LONG-TERM, FEDERAL AND STATE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED 6 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS. THEN THE ASSESSMENT LOOKED AT ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEYOND THE CURRENT CIP PLANNING, UM, DOCUMENT, BUT ARE IN THE MASTER PLAN. THIS IDENTIFIED JUST OVER 45 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL, UH, PROJECTS NEEDED. THEN THE REGULATIONS ASSESSMENT WITH ALL OF THIS GRANT FUNDING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, COME, THERE COMES STRINGS ATTACHED TO THIS FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING. AGAIN, THIS IS WORKING WITHIN THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THROUGH THE FAA. THE ASSESSMENT CONSIDERS THESE PROVISIONS AND THE, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE AIRPORT IS COMPLYING WITH THEM IN THAT ASSESSMENT. UM, THIS IS ALSO WITHIN THE FA, A NATIONAL PLAN OF INTEGRATED AIRPORT SYSTEMS PROGRAM. THIS APPLIES TO THE AIRPORT DUE TO BEING INCLUDED IN THE FA, A NATIONAL PLAN OF INTEGRATED AIRPORT SYSTEMS AND APPLIES WHEN ACCEPTING GRANT FUNDS. AND, UH, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THERE WERE PLENTY OF OTHER ACRONYMS THAT I COULD HAVE CITED FROM THE ASSESSMENT, AND I'M SURE, UH, ED LOVES THOSE, BUT I, I SAVED YOU FROM MOST OF THEM. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. UH, ALSO LOOKING AT THE REGULATIONS ASSESSMENT, UM, THE SPONSOR OF THE AIRPORT, UM, IT, IT'S NOTED THAT THERE ARE BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE ASSURANCES THAT MUST BE COMPLIED WITH. IF THE SPONSOR DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THOSE ASSURANCES, THEN YOU GET PUT ON THIS AIRPORT NON-COMPLIANCE LIST. THAT'S THE FEDERAL VERSION OF A NAUGHTY LIST, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FURTHER FUNDING AT THAT TIME. THAT'S THE QUICK VERSION. MOVING ON TO THE FINANCIAL AND OBLIGATIONS ASSESSMENT. THIS, THIS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT LOOKED AT MANY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, UM, FINANCIAL REPORTS, BUDGETS, BALANCE SHEETS, INCOME STATEMENTS, AND THE ANNUAL, UH, SINGLE AUDIT AS WELL. UH, IT REVIEWED GRANT HISTORY. AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REFERRED TO IN THAT SECTION OF THE ASSESSMENT. AGAIN, THERE ARE MANY FINANCIAL, UH, SUMMARY TABLES YOU CAN SEE HERE. AGAIN, NOT LEGIBLE IN THIS VERSION, I'LL JUST HIT A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS QUICKLY AND NOT GO INTO DETAIL ON THESE. BUT FOR THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY, TOTAL ASSETS ARE APPROXIMATELY 16 MILLION FOR THE AIRPORT. UH, AND I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THE SNAPSHOT OF TIME THAT THIS ASSESSMENT LOOKED AT IT INCLUDED, UM, COST THROUGH CALENDAR YEAR, UH, 2022. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M REPORTING ON IT. IT DID NOTE, UH, BUDGET YEAR OF CALENDAR YEAR, UM, 2023. SO, UH, ALSO IN THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY, THE NET INCOME OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS LOOKED AT RANGED FROM 600 TO 800,000. THE FINANCIAL POSITION, LOOKING AT CALENDAR YEAR, UM, AS THE, I'M SORRY, LOOKING AT THE, UH, 2022 CALENDAR YEAR, [00:25:01] UM, YOU CAN SEE THOSE TABLES. I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THAT. MOVING ON TO THE INCOME AND NET PROFIT, TOTAL PERSONNEL COST FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2022 WAS JUST OVER 1 MILLION. TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES WAS JUST OVER 3 MILLION. OPERATING REVENUE WAS AROUND 5 MILLION, AND THIS ALL RESULTED IN A NET PROFIT OF JUST OVER 250,000 FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2022. LOOKING AT THE CASH FLOW FOR, UM, CONSIDERING NET PROFIT OPERATING INVESTING FINANCING, AGAIN IN CALENDAR YEAR 2022. AT YEAR END, THEY HAD A CASH, UM, ENDED WITH CASH OF ABOUT 1.5 MILLION. I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES LEFT HERE JUST TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW. SO CON, CONTINUING WITH THESE, UH, SUMMARIES IN PROPERTY AND EQUIPMENT, TOTAL PROPERTY AND EQUIPMENT AT THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 22 WAS APPROXIMATELY 11 MILLION OPERATING REVENUES AND GROSS PROFIT FOR 22. AGAIN, LOOKING AT RENTS, FUEL, OIL, SALES, PARKING, AND OTHER FEES. THIS WAS AT NEARLY, UM, 5.2 MILLION AND A GROSS PROFIT OF ABOUT 3.3 MILLION OPERATING EXPENSES, AGAIN, TOTAL OPERATING. UM, I NOTED THAT EARLIER, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S AT ABOUT 3 MILLION. THEN LOOKING AT OTHER INCOME AND EXPENSES, THEY GO OVER THIS WITHIN THE REPORT, BUT EACH OF THOSE WERE AT AROUND 300,000. LOOKING AT INCOME SUMMARY NET INCOME AT WAS AT JUST UNDER 700,000. AND THEY SHOW ANOTHER BREAKDOWN OF, UH, THE TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSES. AND THAT'S JUST GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE TABLES. THE LAST TABLE SHOWS, UH, EXISTING REVENUE, WHICH GIVES ANOTHER BREAKDOWN OF THE TOTAL $5 MILLION, UM, OPERATING REVENUE, EXCUSE ME, . SO, FINAL SLIDE. AS FAR AS CITY SPONSORSHIP, IN REVIEWING THE ASSESSMENT, IT'S APPARENT THAT AMC G'S OPINION WAS THAT THE CITY SHOULD BECOME THE OWNER AND SPONSOR OF THE AIRPORT. STAFF, UH, SEES THIS DIFFERENTLY, AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH, UH, A FEW OF THE BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES WITH THE CONSIDER OF, UH, CONSIDERATION OF SPONSORSHIP. UH, AS OWNER AND SPONSOR OF THE AIRPORT, THE CITY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS, OPERATIONS AND ISSUES USE THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE REGULATIONS AND ASSURANCES THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. IT IS CERTAINLY ARABLE THAT THIS WOULD BE BOTH A BENEFIT AND A CHALLENGE FOR, UH, ANOTHER THING NOTED AS AIRPORT VOCATION. AFTER GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'RE CERTAIN THAT CITY OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRPORT WOULD PROVIDE THE AIRPORT WITH STRONGER SPONSOR, UH, SPONSORSHIP SUPPORT. BUT AGAIN, THAT COULD COME WITH OTHER CHALLENGES THAT, THAT WE MENTIONED. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THOSE CHALLENGES, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT LIABILITY. CURRENT LITIGATION SHOWS THAT THE POTENTIAL LIABILITY CHALLENGES THAT CITY WOULD FACE ARE, ARE REAL FUNDING OBLIGATIONS. AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, THE SPONSOR IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR LOCAL FUNDING. AND I WENT THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING NEEDS FOR THE AIRPORT. SO THAT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A SMALL THING. IF THE VAST NUMBER OF OBLIGATIONS ARE NOT ALL FOLLOWED, THE SPONSOR CAN BE FOUND TO BE NON-COMPLIANT AND RISK LOSING FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING STAFFING. WHILE THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR GOVERNANCE OF THE AIRPORT, IF THE CITY BECAME OWNER AND SPONSOR, ADDITIONAL STAFF WOULD CERTAINLY BE REQUIRED. WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T QUANTIFY THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT, THE CITY IS NOT SET UP TO, UH, OPERATE AN AIRPORT OR MANAGE IT OR EVEN BE THE SPONSOR AT THIS POINT. AS FAR AS, UH, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS, UM, COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF, OF CITY OWNERSHIP OR SPONSORSHIP. THIS YEAR, THE, THE CITY CONDUCTED A BUDGET SURVEY. 80, 80% OF RESPONDENTS DID NOT SUPPORT THE CITY TAKING OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRPORT. AND THEN A FINAL CONSIDERATION IS IF THE CITY DID WANT TO PURSUE OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRPORT, IT WOULD NEED TO OCCUR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE FAA. [00:30:01] THEY WOULD NEED A REQUEST FROM YAVAPAI COUNTY, THE CURRENT OWNER, AND THE FAA WOULD CONSIDER IF IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP. AND NONE OF THAT PROCESS HAS EVEN STARTED. SO WITH THAT, UM, I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THE CHALLENGES CERTAINLY OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS OF CITY SPONSORSHIP AND, UH, OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRPORT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. UH, F YOU HAD A MOTION FOR A STRAW POLL. DO YOU WANT TO REITERATE THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? SURE, MAYOR. UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN ON WHETHER COUNSEL, UH, WISHES TO FURTHER PURSUE, UH, SPONSORSHIP AND OWNERSHIP OF THE, UH, AIRPORT BEFORE WE DELVE DEEPLY INTO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? I CAN WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT. SECOND. SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR. OKAY. WELL, COULD YOU COMMENT? YES, I WAS GONNA GET TO THAT. THANK YOU. YES. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? YES, THANKS, YOUR HONOR. I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. ISN'T IT UP TO US? IF WE DON'T WANT TO DIVE DOUBLY DEEPLY, DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. WE, WE'VE, WE'VE READ THE REPORT. WE UNDERSTAND WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATION, SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME TO DO. I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD EVEN VOTE YET. I'M SENSING TO SHORT SHORTEN THIS MEETING TODAY. SO DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, . OKAY. BUT THE, THE IT'S AGENDA IS FOR DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION ONLY. WE'RE GOING TO GO A BIT FURTHER BY DOING A, A VOTE. WE COULD DO IT. SO, MAYOR, IF IT'S NOT AGENDA AS FRACTION, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE AN OFFICIAL VOTE. YOU CAN ALWAYS, AS PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION, INDICATE WHICH WAY YOU WOULD BE, YOU'D BE SUPPORTING THIS OR NOT. AND COUNCILOR FO'S QUESTION TO THE, TO THE MAYOR, TO THE CHAIR IS JUST WHETHER EVERYONE WOULD INDICATE THAT NOW OR NOT. THERE'S NO OBLIGATION FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL COUNSELOR TO, TO ANSWER THAT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT AT THIS TIME. OKAY? SO WHY DON'T WE DO A YES OR A NO HARD NO. OKAY. MELISSA? NO. VICE MAYOR? NO. MYSELF IS A, NO, NO. PETE, I'M NOT ANSWERING. JESSICA NOT ANSWERING. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. OH, I'M SORRY. NOT ANSWERING. OKAY. SO WE HAVE FIVE AND A HARD NOTE. OKAY. KURT, DOES THAT SATISFY? THIS IS JUST PART OF THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION. THERE'S NOTHING TO NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO SATISFY RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. SO, UH, WE WILL, WITH FIVE VOTES OF NO, WE WILL NOT BE MOVING FORWARD. NO. THIS IS JUST PART OF A DISCUSSION. SO DO YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH A DISCUSSION? WE'VE HAD FIVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION. NO, IT'S A PROCESS. I'M SORRY. I THINK IT'S A PROCESS ISSUE. INSTEAD, CLEAR IT UP. THE PROCESS WAS THAT COUNCILOR FOLTZ WANTED AN INDICATION OF WHERE WE WOULD BE GOING. WE GAVE THAT INDICATION. THE REST OF THE PROCESS STILL HAS TO PLAY OUT. MM-HMM, . OKAY. . SO THEN WHAT'S NEXT ON YOUR PROCESS? WELL, I WOULD JUST ASK YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. NO. RIGHT. I DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. PETE, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NOPE. NO COMMENTS, NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. NO. JESSICA, NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO, UH, COMMENTS. DO YOU HAVE A CARD? YOU DO HAVE CARDS? OKAY. OF COURSE, WE, OKAY. MAY I MAKE ONE SUGGESTION, MAYOR, JUST A SUGGESTION, SINCE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CARDS YOU HAVE, BUT I, THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO, WHO MAY NOT WANT TO STILL MAKE A COMMENT OR BE INTERESTED IN HEARING COMMENTS BASED ON DIRECTION THAT HAS ALREADY BECOME A PARENT. EXACTLY, EXACTLY THE DIRECTION I WAS GONNA GO. BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT. SO, IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU, THE, UH, THE PUBLIC HAS HEARD, IF YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK, UH, I'LL CALL YOUR NAMES AND YOU CAN EITHER, UH, STILL SPEAK OR DECLINE. SO WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE'LL START WITH RUSS DEERY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, ED LER. RUSS, DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? THAT'S FINE. OH, YOU DO WANNA COMMENT? OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO, NO COMMENT SINCE I WROTE THIS UP. ANYWAY, SO, UM, , UH, MY NAME IS RUSSELL DEERY. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF, UH, SEDONA FOR 30 YEARS. I, UH, BASE AN AIRPLANE AT [00:35:01] SEDONA AIRPORT AND SERVED ON THE AIRPORT BOARD FOR 10 YEARS. AFTER MOVING TO SEDONA, I'VE OWNED SEVERAL RETAIL BUILDINGS. IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY I A VESTED INTEREST IN BOTH THE CITY AND THE AIRPORT. AFTER REVIEWING THE LATEST, UH, REPORT FROM A MCG, I FOUND THE REPORT TO BE LACKING IN BOTH SUBSTANCE AND DETAIL. HAVING BASED MY AIRCRAFT AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT AIRPORTS OVER THE PAST 54 YEARS, IT IS UNCLEAR TO ME WHY THE CITY OF SEDONA WOULD WANT TO TAKE OVER, UH, THE COMPLEX AND COSTLY OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT. AIRPORTS BY NATURE AND THEIR ACTIVITY ARE FRAUGHT WITH LIABILITY. DURING MY TENURE ON THE SOCA BOARD, EACH OF THE DIRECTORS WERE PERSONALLY SUED. MEMBERS OF THE CURRENT BOARD HAVE ALSO BEEN NAMED IN LAWSUITS. THIS IS AN ONGOING LIKELIHOOD WHEN OVERSEEING AIRPORT OPERATIONS. THE FA, A PROMULGATES AMOUNT OF REGULATIONS FOR THE AIRPORT AND THE SLIGHTEST DEVIATION IS POTENTIAL, UH, FOR YET ANOTHER LAWSUIT. 15 PLUS YEARS AGO, ADOT OFFERED THE CITY, UH, UH, 89, THE ROUTE 89 A, AND AND INCLUDED A $10 MILLION GRANT. THE CITY FOUND THAT TO BE, UH, UH, NOT TO COVER THE ONGOING OPERATIONS AND, AND THE MAINTENANCE. SO THEY TURNED THAT DOWN. THE SEDONA AIRPORT IS FAR MORE COMPLEX TO OPERATE, MAINTAIN, AND KEEP COMPLIANT, UH, WITH THE, UH, REGULATIONS. THE CITY SHOULD BE ASKING ITSELF WHY THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO GIVE UP A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ASSET. IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE ON THE LIABILITY AND THE EXPENSES REQUIRED TO RUN AND MAINTAIN THE AIRPORT. ON JUST THE RUNWAY ALONE, THERE ARE JETS WEIGHING UP TO 90,000 POUNDS LANDING AT SPEEDS OF 120 MILES AN HOUR. THIS NOT ONLY REQUIRES GREAT DEAL OF SKILL ON THE PART OF THE PILOTS, BUT IS ALSO DEMANDS CONSTANT MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTION OF THE RUNWAY AND THE TAXIWAYS CRACKS, OBSTRUCTIONS, DEBRIS CAN CAUSE A TIRE TO FAIL, DAMAGE A WING, OR EVEN WORSE. THE CURRENT AIRPORT GOVERNANCE, WHICH INCLUDES AN AIRPORT MANAGER AND OVERSIGHT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, HAS SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATED THE PITFALLS OF THE AIRPORT OPERATION FOR OVER THIR 50 YEARS. BOARD, UH, VACANCIES ARE ADVERTISING. THE GENERAL PUBLIC DIRECTORS ARE CHOSEN FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, SELECTED BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF GENERAL AVIATION FA REGULATIONS, AS WELL AS THEIR OVERALL EXPERIENCE AND COMMITMENT TO LEADERSHIP SKILLS. THE, UH, DIRECTORS RECEIVE NO COMPENSATION, ONLY A DESIRE TO GIVE BACK TO BOTH AVIATION AND THEIR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR THE BOARD, IN MY OPINION. THANK YOU, RUSS. OKAY. SO, IN MY OPINION, THANK YOU, RUS TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP, UH, UH, FROM THE COUNTY IS, IS NOT BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY. THANK YOU, RUSS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. UH, ED WILL BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, ROBERT STEVENS, UH, ED KETTLER, CITIZEN OF SEDONA, AND ALSO, UH, AIRPORT HANGAR, UH, LESS. I'M GONNA DEFER TO ROBERT STEVENS, AND IF HE HAS ANY OF MY TIME LEFT, I'LL RECLAIM IT AT THE END. THANK YOU, . WELL, NOW THAT I HAVE A FEW EXTRA MINUTES, I WON'T ASK FOR AN A DA WAIVER BECAUSE I STUTTER. UH, I'M BOB STEVENS. UH, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 21 YEARS. UH, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SOHO, WHICH IS THE SEDONA AIRPORT HANGAR OWNERS. UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE A MCG REPORT AS WELL, AND INITIALLY IDENTIFIED 19 AREAS OF CONCERNS OR OMISSIONS, UH, BY THE CONSULTANTS. UH, OUR PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON THE FOUR MOST COMPELLING REASONS TO AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AIRPORT ACQUISITION. UH, HAGGAR OWNERSHIP, UH, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER A MCG OMITTED OR MISS THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE HANGERS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED AND NOT OWNED BY THE AIRPORT. OUT OF THE 87, UH, HANGERS TOTAL 74 ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. UH, THIS MAKES, UH, SOHO COLLECTIVELY THE LARGEST STAKEHOLDER OF THE AIRPORT. LIABILITY HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON BY, UH, MR. DICKEY. UH, I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON IT THAT WE WERE VERY SURPRISED THAT A MCG DID NOT ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL LIABILITY THE CITY WOULD FACE BY OWNING AN AIRPORT. UNFORTUNATELY, AIRPORTS BECOME A TARGET OF LITIGATION ANYTIME A TRAGIC ACCIDENT OCCURS, AND IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FULLY INDEMNIFY THE CITY, THE LIABILITY COST COULD ACTUALLY BANKRUPT THE CITY. GIVEN THE RIGHT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. FUNDING, UH, MR. DICKEY HAS GONE THROUGH THE FUNDING, [00:40:01] UH, PRETTY THOROUGHLY. BUT LET ME JUST PARAPHRASE THAT. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $130 MILLION OF IDENTIFIED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. ROUGHLY 30 MILLION OF THOSE ARE SHORT TERM REQUIREMENTS BY THE SPONSOR OVER A FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. THAT'S 30 MILLION OVER FOUR YEARS. THINK ABOUT IT. UH, WE THINK THAT, UH, WELL, THE BULK OF THE FUNDING, UH, REQUIRE IS THE REQUIRED OF THE SPONSORS. WE REALLY FEEL THAT IT'S A, UH, COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS BEING THAT THEY'VE HAD A FREE RIDE ON THE AIRPORT FOR OVER 50 YEARS. UH, MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT, AND THIS IS ONE THAT I THINK IS VERY, UH, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH. UNFORTUNATELY, A MCG DID NOT, UH, MENTION THAT THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY AND COUNTY ARE BOUND BY A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT. UH, THIS WAS MOST RECENTLY AMENDED IN 2003. THE AGREEMENT ESTABLISHED THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY AS A WAY OF BUFFERING THE COUNTY FOR MANY POTENTIAL LITIGATION, WHICH COULD ARISE FROM AIRPORT OPERATIONS. UH, IT'S WISE TO NOTE PARAGRAPH 19 OF THE, UH, ASSIGNMENT AND A TRANSFER OF THE MASTER LEASE. AND IT READS, IN PART, IN THE EVENT OF SUCH A TRANSFER, IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE SUCCESSOR AND INTEREST SHALL BE BOUND BY THE APPLICABLE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT. UH, ANY ATTEMPT TO VOID THIS AGREEMENT WOULD LIKELY BE CHALLENGED BY THE AFFECTED PARTIES THAT RESULT IN NEEDLESS LITIGATION THAT NOBODY WANTS OR NEEDS. UH, SOJO IS REQUESTING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER AND VOTE TO ABANDON THE PROPOSED TAKEOVER OF THE AIRPORT. ONE LITTLE THING TOO, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALL, ALL ON THE SAME SIDE OF ISSUES, BUT, UH, ONE THING IN, IN DOING OUR RESEARCH CAME VERY CLEAR THAT OUR CITY GOVERNMENT, OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR MAYOR, YOU GUYS HAVE THE MOST THANKLESS JOB IN THE WORLD. AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, BEFORE I BRING UP, UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER, I JUST WANT TO CLEARLY SAY TO THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO STOP THIS, TO NOT MOVE FORWARD. SO IF ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK AND TAKE THEIR THREE MINUTES, THEY'RE PERFECTLY WELCOME TO DO THAT. BUT THERE ARE THREE VOTES OF, I'M SORRY, FIVE VOTES TO NOT MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE WHERE, IF AT LEAST THE SPEAKERS I'VE ALREADY PRESENTED, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TOWARD, RIGHT? SO IF I WILL ASK EACH PERSON IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED TO SPEAK IF YOU CHOOSE TO, BUT UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, ROBERT STEVENS, DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? NO, I'M DONE. I JUST, OH, OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. ROGER, UH, PARKER, DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? I DO. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK I, I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT, WHETHER IT'S A BENEFIT OR NOT BENEFIT TO THE AIRPORTS. THE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED IS IF THE CITY TAKES OVER THE AIRPORT, MY QUESTION IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT, BUT THINK ABOUT IT, MAYBE I CAN CONVINCE THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HERE TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS. IS THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF TAKING OVER THE AIRPORT, THE, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THE FAA AND AIRPORTS HAVE TO OPERATE. UM, THEY HAVE TO BE SELF-SUSTAINABLE. THEY HAVE TO OPERATE. USUALLY WHEN THE AIRPORT, UH, FAA COMES IN, THE, THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES 90% OF THE BENEFITS, UH, STATE, UH, I THINK 5%, AND THE USERS 5%. SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T COLLECT FROM THE STATE ALWAYS, BUT THAT'S A TYPICAL OPERATION. THE THING I'M ASKING IS, HOW DOES A CITY BENEFIT FROM TAKING OVER THE AIRPORT? THE MONEY GENERATED BY THE AIRPORT HAS TO STAY AT THE AIRPORT. THE CITIES DO NOT HAVE TO FUND THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY. BUT I, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD SUPPORT THE AIRPORT, IS BECAUSE PEOPLE FLYING IN HERE PROVIDE MONEY FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY SPEND MONEY AROUND THE TOWN THAT, UH, IS OBVIOUS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, MY QUESTION, HOW DOES THE CITY BENEFIT FROM ANY OF THIS? ANYWAY, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEVE HIN, DO YOU STILL WISH TO? YES, SPEAK. OKAY. AND THEN DAVID COOPER, YOU'LL BE NEXT. I'LL MAKE IT SHORT. UM, I'M A RESIDENT. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 34 YEARS. I DO OWN AN AIRPLANE AND, UH, KEEP IT IN A HANGAR AT THE SEDONA AIRPORT. I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR FIVE YEARS. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF HOW IT OPERATES AND THE LIABILITIES OF HOW IT OPERATES IN MY PAST CAREER. BEFORE I CAME HERE, I WAS [00:45:01] A TRANSPORTATION SUPERVISOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. AND A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE DID WAS LIABILITY ASSESSMENTS. AND I'LL HAVE TO CONCUR WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THEIR TEAM THAT THEY'VE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, STEVE. AND THEN MARK, I BELIEVE IT'S ALEX. I COULD BE WRONG WITH THE LAST NAME. MARK IS THE FIRST NAME. DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? I DO. YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? VERY GOOD, SIR. MARK ALLEN LIVED IN WEST SEDONA. ALLEN, LIVED HERE, UH, WHEN I WAS EIGHT TO 12 YEARS OLD, AND USED TO WALK UP THE HILL TO WATCH THE AIRPLANES. AND IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, I'M NOW A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AT THE AIRPORT. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT I WOULD SAY, UH, RECOMMEND THAT, ENJOY THE BENEFITS THAT THE, UH, THAT THE AIRPORT PROVIDES TO THE, TO THE CITY WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF LIABILITY OR ADDITIONAL WORK TO BE DONE. THAT IT'S A HUGE HILL TO CLIMB, TO LEARN EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS. AVIATION. I WAS A, A AIR FORCE PILOT, RETIRED AFTER 21 YEARS. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, EVEN DOING ALL THAT, IT'S A HUGE HILL TO CLIMB TO UNDERSTAND THE FA, A PORTIONS OF IT. EVEN HAVING SPENT SOME TIME IN THE, UH, AIRFIELD OPERATIONS SIDE OF THINGS WHEN I WAS, UH, IN THE AIR FORCE, THE HUGE COST INVOLVED JUST FOR REPAVING THE RUNWAY COULD DWARF A SINGLE, UH, A SINGLE YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THE CITY. AND I WOULD JUST SAY, I'D RECOMMEND JUST BE THANKFUL FOR THE MANAGEMENT THAT YOU HAVE HERE, WHO IS EXPERT IN THESE THINGS, AND THE PEOPLE ON THE SOCA BOARD THAT, UH, THAT ARE STEWARDS OF THE AIRPORT, UH, WITH NO COMPENSATION. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD. BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL FOR CLOSING COMMENTS. RYAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, FIRST OFF, APOLOGIES TO MY COLLEAGUES. I, UH, INTRODUCED THIS, UH, STRAW POLL THING, WHICH WE BASICALLY NEVER DO. AND WHILE IT IS PERMISSIBLE, IT CREATED AN AWKWARDNESS AND APOLOGIES TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THAT. IT WAS JUST TRYING TO, UM, HONESTLY, TO SIGNAL TO THE AUDIENCE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL AT ANY POINT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, FERVENTLY DESIRING TO GO AND TAKE OVER THE AIRPORT. LIKE THE REPORT, I THINK, FALSELY CREATES AN IDEA THAT, THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE AIRPORT, AND THAT WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND AT LEAST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I MEAN, THAT WAS NEVER OF INTEREST. YOU KNOW, MY INTEREST IS, IS THAT OUR ZONING IS, UH, WHAT HAS SUPREMACY, UH, ON THE PROPERTY. AND AS I UNDERSTAND THAT IS IN FACT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. UM, SO I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH ALL THE FOLKS WHO GOT UP AND SPOKE FOR ALL THE REASONS WHY THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND TOTALLY AGREE WITH OUR STAFF THAT THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO, UH, AGAIN, APOLOGIES TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR MAKING THIS AWKWARD AND TRYING TO SORT OF SHORTEN THE PROCESS AND, UH, AND, AND JUST LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE EVER EXCITED ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THANK YOU, MELISSA. SO I'LL KEEP IT REALLY SHORT BECAUSE RYAN JUST BASICALLY SAID EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. I THINK THIS WAS MORE AN INTEREST IN THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE AIRPORT OPERATES AND THE IMPACTS THAT THE AIRPORT HAS, WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING FOR THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE AIRPORT. ONLY MUCH BRIEFER THAN THE LAST TIME YOU PRESENTED ED. UM, BUT TO OWN IT, AGAIN, I THINK THE CITY WAS MORE INTERESTED IN, IN ZONING AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, AS PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY WHAT GOES ON UP THERE, WE HAVE, NOT AIRPORT WISE, BUT OTHERWISE, THAT WE, WE HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND WE HAVE SOME SAY IN WHAT'S GOING ON. IF THAT HAS BEEN, UM, SOLVED BY OTHER PROCESSES, THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OKAY BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO BRING THOSE THROUGH OUR PROCESS, THROUGH THE P AND Z OR THROUGH THE COUNCIL OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S FOR SURE WHAT I WAS INTERESTED IN, BECAUSE RESIDENTS MATTER TO US AND THEY LIVE OR RIGHT BELOW WHERE YOUR, WHERE YOUR, UH, HANGERS ARE AND, AND WHERE YOUR JETS ARE TAKING OFF AND LANDING. SO IF WE ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, GOING WELL, THEN I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD WANT TO DEAL WITH THINGS WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, AND WHY WE'D WANNA HIRE STAFF TO DO IT. SO I, I WOULD CONCUR WITH WHAT THE STAFF IS SAYING. AND, UM, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN, IN BEING THE SPONSOR FOR THE, UM, AIRPORT VICE MAYOR, WHAT THEY SAID, . I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE, AND THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR DIVERSION FOR US, OF WHICH WE HAVE NO EXPERIENCE OR UNDERSTANDING. [00:50:01] SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS SAID, WE DO HEAR YOU AND YOU ARE RIGHT, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE US TO WORK MORE COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANS ARE AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT YOU. AND WE WANT YOU TO BE HEALTHY. WE WANT YOU TO HAVE REVENUES. WE ALSO WANNA PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE SAFELY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY, FIRE AND POLICE. SO I, I LIKE THE IDEA. IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE REPORT THAT RESONATED WITH ME IS A, IS A MORE CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. COUNCILOR WILLIAMSON, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I NEVER WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE AIRPORT. I DIDN'T EVEN WANNA TALK ABOUT IT. UH, SO, UM, I JUST SIMPLY WANTED TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS. ODD IS ENOUGH. UH, ODDLY ENOUGH, IT WAS PROCESS ORIENTED. NAH, EVERYTHING YOU GUYS SAID WAS TRUE. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND WE, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING UP THE BIGGEST PART OF THE MEETING. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO MY, WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE ED, BUT HE SURPRISED ME. , NO, ED, ED, ED MANAGED NOT TO. SO THANK YOU, PETE. THANKS, MAYOR. YEAH, THANK YOU COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. AND THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY AS WELL. IT'S A, IT WAS A PROCESS ISSUE FOR ME. WE GOT STARTED OFF ON A BAD FOOT HERE. I DIDN'T WANNA BE DISRESPECTFUL TO STAFF OR CONSULTANTS OR THE ISSUE, OR THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THEIR TIME TO COME OUT TODAY. AND TO CUT SHORT A CONVERSATION WAS JUST ODD POSITIONING AT THE START OF THE MEETING FOR ME. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I'M A FORMER US AIR FORCE PILOT MYSELF. I AM THE WORLD'S BIGGEST AVIATION ENTHUSIAST. I LOVE ALL THINGS, UH, AVIATION. I LOVE AIRPORTS. I LOVE AIRPLANES. I LOVE FLYING. I LOVE THE SMELL OF AGAS AND JET FUEL. AND I LOVE THE SOUND FREEDOM. UH, AND SO WHEN I CAME TO THIS ISSUE, I'M ASKING MYSELF, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? AND I DON'T SEE WHAT IT IS FROM A CITY COUNSELOR PERSPECTIVE. NOTHING THAT I READ ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR ME. SO I'M NOT SURE, UH, WHY WE WOULD EVER CONSIDER . THIS IS AN OPTION. ED, THE REPORT THAT I READ SAID YOU GOT A LIST OF CHALLENGES, AND THE TESTIMONY I HEARD TODAY SAID, THERE'S EVEN MORE CHALLENGES THERE THAN I KNEW. SO CONGRATULATIONS. KEEP DOING , KEEP DOING WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING AND, AND DO IT WELL. YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I DON'T, UH, UH, HOLD A PILOT'S LICENSE ANYMORE. I DON'T OWN AN AIRPLANE. AND FROM A, AS A CITY COUNSELOR, I'M NOT SURE WHY I WOULD WANNA OWN AN AIRPORT. IT JUST, THE CASE WASN'T MADE TO ME TODAY. SO, UH, SO YES, I, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS FRUSTRATED AT THE START OF THIS MEETING BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO CUT THIS ISSUE SHORT. I WANTED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT WE SPENT HERE TODAY. THANK YOU, KATHY. THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S A DIRECT DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE SUBJECT AND THE COUNCIL. I THINK PART OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION THAT HAPPENED WAS BECAUSE ANY DIALOGUE AROUND THIS WAS HAPPENING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SOCIAL MEDIA JUMPED TO A, UM, CONCLUSION THAT WAS NOT, OBVIOUSLY, WAS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE THOUGHTS OF AND LEANINGS OF THIS COUNCIL. THIS ALL STARTED IN 2022 WHEN THERE WERE ZONING ISSUES AROUND LAND USES UP AT THE AIRPORT, WHICH LED TO 2023 COUNCIL SAYING WE NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OWNERSHIP ISSUES. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROPOSAL WHICH WAS OUT THERE CITY PROPOSES TO TAKE OVER AIRPORT. THAT NEVER WAS THE CASE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. THAT WAS NEVER THE CASE. UM, SO I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, AND I DO THINK THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT THOUGH TO HEAR THAT THIS DIALOGUE DID PLAY OUT. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT YOU GAVE. UM, WE ALL NEED TO BE INFORMED BY THEM. OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL REACHED, ALLOWED THE SAME CONCLUSIONS FROM READING THE REPORT AND THE INFORMATION. UH, SO GOOD TO KNOW COMMUNITY AND COUNSEL ON THE SAME PAGE, THAT THAT'S A PLUS, RIGHT? UM, I JUST WANNA BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THE DIRECTION THAT'S COMING FROM THIS COUNCIL IS FOR STAFF TO NOT PROCEED WITH PURSUING ANY, ANYTHING. DO NOT PURSUE ANYTHING REGARDING ANY AIRPORT OWNERSHIP OR SPONSORSHIP TAKEOVER, ANYTHING. AS I SAID, THAT WAS NEVER, NEVER THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN. IT WAS A RESEARCH PROJECT. AND THAT'S BROUGHT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND AGAIN, LESSON, LESSON LEARNED ABOUT HAVING AN OPEN EAR AND EYE LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA, REPRESENTING WHAT WAS NOT DIRECT DIALOGUE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND INTEREST. [00:55:01] THANK YOU. SO, TO ANSWER COUNCILOR FURMAN'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? WELL, I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, AND BOARD CHAIR, UH, PANINI, UH, AND I DISCUSSED PROBLEMS YEARS AGO, AND MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN RECTIFIED, FORTUNATELY WITH HER LEADERSHIP AND EDS. BUT THERE WAS A PROBLEM FROM A, A, UH, AIRPORT MANAGER WHO STARTED PROBLEMS YEARS AGO AND ALL PUSHBACK AGAINST THE CITY NOT FOLLOWING ANY OF THE ZONING CODES, ANY OF THE, THE APPLICATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT. TOTALLY IGNORING THE CITY WHEN WE HAVE THE JURISDICTION ON ZONING OUTSIDE THE, UH, AERONAUTICAL AREA, I BELIEVE. AND IT GOT TO BE SO BAD THAT MYSELF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WENT TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SAY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. AND IT WAS AT AN AGENDIZED MEETING, BUT WE SPOKE UP AND SAYING, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. AND WE'RE NOT. UH, THERE'S, UH, EVENTS GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT. THERE'S MULTIPLE EVENTS. I MEAN, RECENTLY CLOTH AND FLAME HAD EVENTS, UH, UP TO LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE. NO PERMITS. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S NOT WORKING TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW. WE NEED TO START OVER. AND BY THE WAY, I'M SUPPORTING MY, UH, UH, FELLOW COUNSELORS BY NOT MOVING FORWARD. BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE AIRPORT TO MAKE MONEY AND CLOTH AND FLAME. BY THE WAY, IF CLOTH AND FLAME DIDN'T HAVE A NAME OF CLOTH AND FLAME, MAYBE IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER. HAVING FLAME IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OF A FOREST IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. , I MEAN, REALLY. UH, AND SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE COUNCILOR ILLA SAID THAT REALLY STIRRED THE POT. I I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THE AIRPORT. I AM, UH, CLEARLY LISTENING TO OUR CITY MANAGER WHO, UH, WAS AGAINST US FROM THE BEGINNING. I WAS AGAINST US FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL. WE, I THINK WE HAVE THE STAFF THAT COULD DO IT. I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF. I THINK ULTIMATELY WE COULD DO IT. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF BIGGER ISSUES ON THE TABLE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. AND YOU HAVE A GOOD AIRPORT MANAGER WHO'S EXCEPTIONAL. WE DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT HELICOPTER NOISE ANYMORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DID IT, BUT HE'S THE FIRST MANAGER THAT TOOK CARE OF THAT PROBLEM AND OTHER PROBLEMS TO BOOT. BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ZONING ISSUES AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND STOP HAVING AN AIRPORT, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S TAKING A STRONG ARM AND SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE MONEY. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY OF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE, WHEN THE COMMUNITY PUSHES BACK, THEY SHOULD BE LISTENED TO. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS LISTEN TO EVERYBODY. NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY, BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY OF WORKING TOGETHER. I KNOW ED HAS THAT GROUP HE PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THAT SEEMS TO HELP. I HAVEN'T HEARD, HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS. I KNOW, UH, COUNCILOR DUNN BEFORE SHE WAS ON THE COUNCIL, SHE WAS A PART OF THAT. IT, AND IT, I'M GUESSING IT'S BEEN WORKING 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE COMPLAINTS, UH, AS MUCH ANYMORE. RIGHT. BUT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE ZONING ISSUES. CLOTH AND FLAMES SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF, WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO IT ANYWAY. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF PUSHBACK. NOISE. AND IT CAME TO COUNCIL, THERE, THERE WAS THE COUNCIL MEETING. I THINK EVERYTHING WAS ADDRESSED. IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. WHY COULDN'T HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE BEGINNING? SO I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER, THE COUNTY IS HERE. YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY HERE, WE NEED TO START HAVING MORE CONTROL OR, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE AIRPORT. I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THE REPORT. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES I HAVE IN THIS REPORT, WHETHER YOU CAN JUSTIFY THEM OR NOT. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WHY I DON'T WANT THIS AIRPORT. BUT I THINK WORKING TOGETHER WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE. SO WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE A VOTE. WE, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY, UH, ARTICULATED TO STAFF THE DIRECTION. SO I WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? YES. YEAH. SO I JUST WANNA CLARITY FROM, UM, CITY MANAGER AS TO WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD AS THE DIRECTION, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAD HAD PICKED UP. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR JALO AND COUNSELOR DUNN. UM, WHAT I'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT, UH, THE STAFF IS NOT PURSUING ANY DIALOGUE WITH THE COUNTY AROUND SPONSORSHIP TRANSFER. UH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYWAY UNTIL THE COUNTY FORMALLY REQUESTS IT. UM, BUT WHAT I AM HEARING IS CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE AIRPORT MANAGER AND THE AIRPORT TEAM IF NEED BE THE COUNTY AROUND THE, UM, ISSUES SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT OF THE NON AERONAUTICAL USE PROPERTIES. UM, LET'S [01:00:01] WORK TOGETHER. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AROUND THE ZONING, UM, ISSUES THERE. UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH OUR CURRENT ZONING AROUND THE PROPERTIES. UM, SO THAT WAS MY GENERAL TAKEAWAY. STILL WORK WITH THE AIRPORT. LET'S COLLABORATE AND WORK TO SUPPORT WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE FROM THE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. IT'S THE SUPPORT FOR THE AIRPORT TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION. YEAH. MM-HMM. . BUT WE DON'T NEED TO BE THE SPONSOR TO DO THAT. ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? MM-HMM. ? YES. A HUNDRED PERCENT. OKAY. UNANIMOUS CONSENT. GOOD. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MELISSA? THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, LET'S MOVE ON. WE'VE GOT A, A LENGTHY AGENDA. [3.b. Discussion/possible action regarding ideas for future meetings/agenda items. ] I ITEM DA DISCUSSION POSSIBLE. UH, ACTION REGARDING, UH, IDEAS OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND, UH, MEETINGS. ARE THERE ANYTHING? [5. ADJOURNMENT] OKAY. HEARING NONE. THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.