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MEETING OF, UH, THE HPC TO ORDER.[Historic Preservation on December 9, 2024.]
IT'S, UH, 4 0 1.UH, COULD YOU PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE? PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I EASY FROM VICE CHAIR MEYERS PRESENT.
AND COMMISSIONER HUGGINS WAS GOING TO TRY TO ATTEND, BUT I BELIEVE HE MAY BE EXCUSED.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? I MIGHT HAVE HIT SOMETHING.
I JUST WANTED TO ALERT THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE DID RECEIVE A, AN APPLICATION, UH, FOR HISTORICAL LANDMARK, AND, UH, STAFF IS PROCESSING THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND AS PER THE LDC AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CHAIR, SO AT SOME POINT IN TIME, UH, WE WOULD COME UP WITH A, UH, UH, POSSIBLY A, A STAFF REPORT, UH, AND BRING IT FORWARD TO, UH, THE COMMISSION FOR, UH, YOUR REVIEW.
SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING OUT THERE HANGING.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO PUT IT ON RECORD.
UM, TOMORROW AT, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THEY WILL BE, UH, LOOKING TO APPOINT NEW COMMISSIONERS AND REAPPOINT, UH, THE TWO THAT ARE, UH, ARE WHO, WHOSE, UH,
AND I WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK COMMISSIONER HUGGINS, UM, NOT JUST FOR HIS TIME ON THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER HUGGINS IS WALKING IN THE DOOR AND IT WOULD BE NICE FOR HIM TO HEAR IT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, HE IS WALKING.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER HUGGINS HAS JOINED US.
WELCOME, COMMISSIONER HUGGINS.
SO, UM, I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, STATING THAT, UH, UH, TOMORROW COUNSEL WILL BE LOOKING AT THE, UH, APPOINTING THE NEW AND CURRENT COMMISSIONERS.
AND I WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK COMMISSIONER HUGGINS, NOT JUST FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS COMMISSION, BUT FOR STAYING IN YOUR CHAIR.
UM, BE UNTIL THE FACT THAT WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO GET IN SOMEONE TO REPLACE THAT.
I SHOULDN'T SAY REPLACE 'CAUSE WE CAN'T REPLACE YOU, BUT, UM, BUT I DID WANNA TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DID FOR HPC.
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WE DO HAVE, UH, ONE OF THE INCOMING COMMISSIONERS, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE, WHETHER US KAREN STUACK, UH, WILL BE JOINING US PENDING COUNSEL APPROVAL.AND KAREN, UH, UH, WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHO WAS HIGHLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FOUNDING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, UH, BACK IN THE EARLY DAYS.
APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 4TH, 2024.
EVERYONE TOOK A LOOK AT THOSE.
EVERYONE COOL WITH THOSE? YES.
IT'S NOT, NOT OKAY TO JUST SAY YEAH, WE'RE COOL WITH THAT.
THAT'S NOT OFFICIAL, HUH?
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 31 0.0801 H, ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE.
DONNA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? NO CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC.
MOVING ON TO REGULAR BUSINESS.
UH, POINT A DISCUSSION OF AN HPC WORK PLAN.
YOU WANT ME TO TAKE IT AWAY,
I, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR PLAN, SO.
I JUST THREW SOME THINGS TOGETHER.
UH, AFTER OUR LAST DISCUSSION, I REALIZED WE'D KIND OF BEEN OVERTHINKING IT.
UM, UH, PUT PEN TO PAPER ON WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN OUR LAST MEETING.
UM, SOME GOALS TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EXAMINING, UM, LANDMARKING UP TO TWO, UH, PROPERTIES OR STRUCTURES IN THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AHEAD, UH, TO 2026 AND BEYOND.
OTHERS THAT COULD BE ON OUR RADAR.
THAT COULD BE, UM, LANDMARKED, UH, HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
UM, SEEKING OUT AND PURSUING GRANT FUNDING TO UPDATE THE SURVEY IN 2026.
I DIDN'T PUT THAT BUDGET YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BUDGET YEAR 26 OR BUDGET YEAR 27.
SO THAT'S WHY I PUT CALENDAR YEAR
UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICTS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STEVE GOT, YOU GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND I THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA, UM, IDENTIFYING OR ESTABLISHING, UH, OR BOTH THE IDEA OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICTS.
UM, SO WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT, UM, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, WHAT STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS, UH, CARVING UP THE CITY INTO, INTO DISTRICTS MM-HMM
AND, AND SAY, OKAY, IN THIS DISTRICT OVER HERE IN WEST SEDONA, WE'VE GOT PROPERTIES X, Y, AND Z, UH, IN THIS DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 17 PROPERTIES THAT COULD, AND MAYBE WE EVEN WANNA LOOK AT LANDMARKING THAT, THAT, UH, DISTRICT OR NEIGHBORHOOD.
'CAUSE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TOO.
WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OLD MAPS OF, OF NEW YORK, BACK IN THE 1820S, THE MAPS WERE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE FISH DISTRICT WAS HERE, THE SLAUGHTERING WAS HERE.
UM, AND THEY AREN'T REALLY IDENTIFYING.
THEY MIGHT HAVE OUTLINES OF BUILDING, BUT THEY WERE KIND OF JUST DISTRICTS.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE OLD SLY PROPERTY WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS, THAT'S THE OLD SLY PROPERTY.
THEN YOU'VE GOT DOWN RURAL ROAD, THAT WHOLE AREA IS KIND OF BY ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT, I'M THINKING OF IT KIND OF IN A BROADER SENSE.
YOU'D HAVE THIS MAP DRAWN OUT, HAVE A LITTLE LANDMARKS, BUT THEN IF THE CITY DOES PROCEED WITH, UH, SOME OF THESE, UH, DISPLAYS, PEOPLE WOULD BE WALKING DOWN TO THE HISTORY DISTRICT MM-HMM
THEY'D LITTLE STORY ON THE SN LEAVES AND THEY'D GO OVER TO OUR NEW PARK, TALK ABOUT THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAD IN MIND.
UH, AND THEN, UH, WITH PUBLIC EDUCATION OUTREACH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AS THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS CONTRACTED TO WORK WITH US, UH, ON EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, UM, PROGRAMS, UH, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TIME COMES, GRAND OPENING OF THAT NEW PARK AND, AND PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER THERE AND, AND, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH MOVING FORWARD AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO SIMPLIFIED FROM, FROM THE CONVOLUTED DOCUMENT I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS LAST MONTH.
UM, PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAD ASKED ABOUT DOING THIS NOW IS THAT I WOULD BE LOOKING TO PUT IN MONIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
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26 BUDGET YEAR.SO THIS IS PART OF THAT PART, THIS DISCUSSION, THIS, I'M SORRY.
DISCUSSION WILL LEAD TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
COMMENTS, CONCERNS, QUESTIONS.
UM, I HAD A COMMENT, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
UM, CYNTHIA WORKED WITH MYSELF AND ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, UH, ABOUT THE UPTOWN CFA AND THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL INVOLVED WITH THAT, AND I AM WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THAT THAT COULD BE VALUABLE TO US IN UPDATING THE SURVEY.
I WILL ACTUALLY, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
I, I HAVE THE SURVEY IF YOU NEED IT.
FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE GONNA WORK ON MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I'M STILL FIGHTING FOR THE NOTEBOOKS.
WELL,
I, I'D NEVER SEEN THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED THE OTHER DAY OR AT THE LAST MEETING, SO I, I DO THINK THAT'S A HELPFUL THING TOO.
AND I KNOW IN OUR LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, FOR THESE GOALS.
SO DID WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT DISCUSSION IN THE SENSE OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE CORRECT.
OR ASSIGNING CORRECT FOLKS? UM, OR IS THIS TOO PRELIMINARY, UH, AT THIS POINT? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
I DON'T THINK, UM, WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE THE GOALS AND, AND WALK THROUGH 'EM NOW AND THEN, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LOGICAL STEPS ARE.
I MEAN, I, LUCKILY WE'VE GOT, UH, SOMEBODY, UH, PROPERTY OWNER IS INTERESTED IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, WHO'S FILED PAPERWORK ALREADY LOOKING AT LANDMARKING.
UM, SO THAT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS.
SO, UM, WE CAN CONTINUE TO, TO LOOK AT THOSE AND, AND MIGHT ADD TOO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, INCOMING COMMISSIONER, UM, PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL, STUPAC, UM, I KNOW HAS A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT THAT, UM, AND BUILDINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND, UM, SHE'S VERY EAGER TO, TO BRING SOME OF THOSE TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN ASSIGN ANYTHING TO HER AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, SHE MAY WISH TO VOLUNTEER TO, TO TAKE ON SOME OF THAT TOO WHEN SHE JOINS US NEXT MONTH.
WE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, WE HAD THE GES DEPARTMENT DO A MAP FOR US ON BOTH COUNTIES ON PROPERTIES OVER 50 YEARS OLD IN, UM, COUNTY ASSESSOR RECORDS.
UM, WE GOT IT BEFORE, UM, THE QUESTION AND IT, IT SIMPLIFIED EVERYTHING BECAUSE ONCE WE HAD IT IN GPS AND WE COLOR COORDINATED BY 10 YEAR MULTIPLES, IT WAS REALLY EASY TO, YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET IN THE CAR IN AN AFTERNOON AND GO SEE EVERYTHING.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, UM, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITIES AND WHO'S GONNA ASK? I HAVE A FEELING NOW, IF I WAS TO TRY TO DO IT AGAIN ON MY OWN, I WOULD BE REBUFFED PLUS THE CITY DOESN'T WANT ME TO STUFF ON MY ARM.
SO, SO I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, TO AT LEAST HAVE STAFF DO SOME RESEARCH AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.
BUT I THINK IF WE ASKED THE RIGHT PEOPLE, I KNOW WHEN I FIRST ASKED, THEY SAID NO.
WHEN I PUSHED A LITTLE FARTHER, THEY GO, WELL, LET ME SEE.
AND ONCE THEY PULLED IT UP AND THEN THE CITY TOOK 'EM AND THEN DID A MAP FOR US.
DOES THE CITY HAVE A GIS WE DO DEPARTMENT.
UM, COULD WE, COULD WE ASK STAFF TO START THAT CONVERSATION WITH GIS ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO CREATE A MAP LIKE THAT? YES, I WILL.
WE'RE ASSIGNING THINGS LEFT AND RIGHT.
I THINK WHEN YOU GET THAT IN PLACE, I THINK IT'LL, IT'LL KIND OF FALL TOGETHER.
UM, THE, THE SURVEY AND THE GRANT FUNDING, I ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE NEXT THING DOWN AND I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT AND, AND POTENTIALLY YOU DO TOO.
SO, UH, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE COME BACK TO IT.
BUT, UM, ACTUALLY I FEEL PRETTY GOOD THAT, THAT WE'RE STARTING OFF IN A GOOD DIRECTION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ASSIGN MORE OF THESE THINGS RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY THING THAT'LL FALL ON, UM,
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SOMEBODY WHO HAVE A LINK BETWEEN BOTH ORGANIZATIONS.I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT MIGHT BE, BUT IT MIGHT BE HIM.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHO COULD FILL THAT ROLE,
I, I DO THINK IT'S GOOD TO, TO START THE BALL ROLLING ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
AND AS I SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PERHAPS OUR INCOMING COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE SOME THOUGHTS TOO.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS ON A WORK PLAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THERE, BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THIS GROUP TO WALK YOUR PROPERTY AND, AND JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS IT NEEDS.
OH, YOU NEED TO BE CLOSER TO THE MIC.
TO WALK THE, THE MUSEUM PROPERTY, UM, AND LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS, UM, MAKE COMMENTS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OR IF NOT, UM, BUT LOOK AT IT PHYSICALLY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU ASK THE CITY TO DO IT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH CITY EYES.
BUT I THINK IF WE WERE TO WALK THROUGH IT, WE'D LOOK AT THE, UH, THE WINDOWS, WE'D LOOK AT THE CAULKING, WE'D LOOK AT THE EAVES, UH, WE'D MAKE COMMENTS AND THEY'RE JUST COMMENTS.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT, IT NEEDS BETTER LIGHTING AND IT NEEDS SOME WORK TO MAKE IT SAFER IN THE EVENINGS, ESPECIALLY NOW WHEN IT'S DARK AT FIVE.
UH, BUT I JUST THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR, UH, OVERSIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO IF NOT THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, BUT I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE DONE AT LEAST EVERY OTHER YEAR.
AND I THINK OTHER FIELD TRIPS ARE, ARE GOOD TOO.
AND AGAIN, UM, I, I HAVE TO SPEAK FOR HER BECAUSE SHE'S NOT A ON THE COMMISSION YET, BUT I KNOW THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY INCOMING COMMISSIONER STUPAC, UH, IS, IS VERY INTERESTED IN, UM, FIELD TRIPS.
SHE'S, SHE'S GOT SOME PROPERTIES SHE WANTS US TO GET OUR EYES ON.
SO IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT REAL QUICK, WHICH, UM, UH, IT REMINDED ME OF THE FACT THAT PART OF, UH, YOUR CHARTER IS TO HAVE AN EDUCATION, A YEARLY EDUCATIONAL, UH, PROGRAM.
UH, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT FOR THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES.
SO LAST YEAR WE DID DO THE, WE DID A TOUR OF RIGHT.
SOME ADULT PROPERTIES AND STUFF THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, AND I THINK WITH THE CONTINUING EDUCATION TOO, I THINK ONCE WE GET OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS ON BOARD, IT'S WORTH REACHING OUT TO SHIPPO AND HAVING ARIANA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT CGS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
'CAUSE SHE'S, SHE'S SHARP AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE.
I, I THINK THE FIELD TRIP'S A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK IT WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL WE PUT A DATE ON IT.
IF WE JUST OUGHT TO TAKE A MONTH AND SAY THIS MONTH OR THAT MONTH, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND THAT'LL BE OUR, WHAT WE DO.
YOU WANNA TARGET SOMETHING APRIL? APRIL.
I WAS, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY APRIL.
WHAT IF WE TARGET APRIL
UH, JUST FOR THE NOTES, AT WHAT POINT WILL WE KNOW WHAT THE FIELD TRIP WILL BE ABOUT? I WILL THAT BE AFTER.
WE'VE GOTTA START WORKING ON THAT.
WELL WOULDN'T KILL US TO DRIVE BY ALL THE LANDMARK PROPERTIES.
LIKE, LET, LET'S NOT OVERTHINK THIS.
I HAVE TO ADMIT, AND THIS IS ON THE RECORD AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ALL OF THEM IN PERSON.
AND I, I THINK JUST TO DRIVE BY AND GET OUT FIVE MINUTES, TAKE A COUPLE PICTURES AND MOVE ON IT, IT KIND OF REMINDS YOU WHERE THEY'RE AT.
AND IF WE DO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, OOPS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE, WE WILL KNOW AND WE CAN JOT IT DOWN AND THAT ISN'T OUR CHARTER THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT ANYWAY.
DID THAT PAST, WE DID EVERY COUPLE YEARS AND WE'D FIND THESE, 'CAUSE A LOT OF 'EM ARE TUCKED BACK IN KIND OF A WAY.
SO I THINK GET US UP TO SPEED REALLY ON WHAT THESE ARE ABOUT.
DON, I'M SORRY, AS FAR AS APRIL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER THAT MAY IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
SO YOU MIGHT WANNA ALLOW TIME FOR ACTIVITIES IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING FOR THAT.
THAT, THAT GOES BACK TO TALKING WITH WHOEVER THAT WE GET FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
AREN'T WE AREN'T, AREN'T, ISN'T THE CITY FUNDING, UM, THE MUSEUM TO DO SOMETHING PUBLIC ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTHS? CORRECT.
AND SO
THEN WE NEED, WE NEED TO GET WORKING ON THAT THEN.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE, WE DIDN'T DO IT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, I DON'T THINK.
WE WERE GONNA DO IT THIS YEAR TIED TO THE ANTICIPATED OPENING OF THE BREWER ROAD PARK.
UH, AND THAT HASN'T HAD AN OFFICIAL GRAND OPENING
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YET.WELL, MAYBE A GOOD TIME TO OPEN UP THE PARK NOW.
I MEAN, THEY ARE ACTUALLY INSTALLING THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AS WE SPEAK, SO, SO IT'LL BE EARLIER.
UH, WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT YES.
SO YOU GOTTA FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
WE GOT A BOARD MEETING COMING UP ON WEDNESDAY.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? AND RECOGNIZING THAT SOME OF THIS BLEEDS OVER, I THINK THAT, UM, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO COORDINATE THE PLAN WITH THIS LITTLE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HANDBOOK.
I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH IS IN THERE.
I HADN'T BEEN EXPOSED TO IT BEFORE THAT I REMEMBER.
AND, UH, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO COORDINATE WITH THIS AND, UH, UPDATE IT.
SO VOLUNTEERING TO DO THAT WORK ON THAT.
I, I WILL WORK ON IT WITH SOMEBODY
QUICK DOCUMENT IS THAT, THIS IS THE CITY OF SEDONA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HANDBOOK.
WE DON'T HAVE THE AMENDED COPY.
THEN
IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO LOOK UP OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES, IS THERE ANY PLACE ON THE WEB THAT THEY'RE HELD? YEAH.
IT SHOULD BE OFF OF OUR WEBSITE, UM, ON OUR HPC PAGE.
THERE'S, THERE'S THERE THE HPC PAGE LINKS TO THE SURVEY MM-HMM
UM, BUT IT ALSO LINKS TO THE LANDMARKED PROPERTIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN UPDATED WITH KIVA HOUSE AND AKAKA, P**I CHAPEL? PROBABLY NOT YET.
AND THEN, UM, I PUT TOGETHER, UH, THAT DRIVING TOUR I MENTIONED, UM, VIRTUAL DRIVING TOUR ON THE CLIO WEBSITE, UH, WHERE IT'S ALL IN ONE PLACE TOO.
AND IT TAKES ALL THAT INFORMATION FROM ALL THE SURVEYS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS AND PUTS IT ALL IN ONE PLACE.
WE COULD PUT A LINK TO THAT ON THE HPC WEBSITE TOO.
IT'S NOT EVEN 2025 YET, AND WE'VE KNOCKED OFF SOME OF
ANYTHING ELSE? DID WE GET THE, UM, THE PLAQUE THAT, UH, AK NEEDED? I BELIEVE THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF, WEREN'T THEY? YES, ALL OF THEM.
BOTH THE TALK P AND 56 LINKS RECEIVED THEIR PLAQUES.
WELL, WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION, UH, 0.5 B HERE, DISCUSSION OF CLG GRANT FUNDING BECAUSE THERE, THAT IS TIED WITH, UH, THE WORK PLAN TOO.
UM, DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU WANNA RUN WITH THAT STEVE, OR OF COURSE NOT.
UM, WELL, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SHIPPO, UM, A LITTLE BIT.
I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TWO, BUT I DID GET AN EMAIL FROM JESSICA LOPOTA, WHO'S THE GRANTS COORDINATOR FOR SHIPPO, UM, JUST EARLIER TODAY.
UM, AND SHE SAID A-A-C-L-G GRANT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR A SURVEY.
IT'S EXACTLY, AH, JUST RELOADED ON ME.
I DID RESEARCH THEIR WEBSITE AND DID NOT FIND A CLG GRANT.
THAT IS WHY I REACHED OUT TO THEM.
AND AFTER I WENT CROSS-EYED LOOKING AT THEIR WEBSITE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, I PICKED UP THE PHONE, CALLED ARIANA AND SAID, OKAY, WHY IS THIS HARD
THAT'S EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT THESE GRANTS FUND YOU CAN APPLY FOR UP TO A $20,000 AWARD WITH A 40% MATCH.
IF YOU APPLY FOR A 20,000 IN GRANT AWARD, YOU WOULD NEED AT LEAST 13,334 IN MATCH.
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MATCH CAN BE CASH IN KIND VOLUNTEER TIME OR A COMBINATION OF ALL, ALL THREE OF THOSE.UM, SHE ATTACHED THE APPLICATION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SO THAT'S, AND SO I HAVE THE APPLICATION AND GRANT EXPLANATION DOCUMENTATION THAT SHE SENT OVER TO THAT'S GREAT.
40% MATCH, 40% MATCH AND TIME CAN BE STAFF AND VOLUNTEER TIME CAN, CAN BE PART OF THAT OR THE WHOLE OF IT.
DID SHE HAPPEN TO MENTION ANY OF THE LINKS WITH OTHER HISTORIC GRANTS? NOT JUST, UH, THROUGH SHIPPO? NO.
THEIR WEBSITE MENTIONS A TON OF 'EM.
AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY, THEY ARE, UM, A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY SPECIFIC MM-HMM
UM, AND, AND I WAS RUNNING INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER HISTORICAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DON'T FIT WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN SEDONA.
AND SO WE DON'T QUALIFY FOR OR VERY SPECIFIC TO A TYPE OF BUILDING THAT THEY FUND REDEVELOPMENT OF OR WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY I ENDED UP REACHING OUT TO, TO THEM ABOUT THE CLG GRANTS SPECIFICALLY.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE A LOT OF, A LOT OF OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
WELL, DID YOU HAVE ONE IN MIND? WELL, NO, NOT REALLY.
UM, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, UM, THE CONTINUING REDEVELOPMENT OF SEDONA MM-HMM
AND, UH, THERE ARE, UH, FACADE GRANTS OUT THERE IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WANT TO DO AN ENVELOPE BUILDING OR SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR US MM-HMM
BUT, UH, I THINK WOULD BE AN INTERESTING THING TO EXPLORE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THOSE, UM, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, BUT I DO KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE AND I DO KNOW THAT, UM, CERTAINLY AT LEAST WITH LANDMARKED PROPERTIES MM-HMM
THAT WOULD BE A, UM, SOMETHING TO PURSUE.
UM, SHOULD SOMEBODY WANNA REDEVELOP A HISTORIC BUILDING MM-HMM
SO WITH THAT OUT THERE, WAS THERE THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT STAFF WANTED TO BRING UP WITH, WITH THAT? SPECIFICALLY HAVING PUT IT ON THE, THE AGENDA OR, UH, NO, I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING ELSE.
SO LIKE, LIKE WHAT YOU STATED, JUST SEARCHING THE WEB.
UM, I, I DID NOT COME UP WITH ANYTHING CONCRETE.
AND AGAIN, EVEN SHIPPO'S WEBSITE YES.
IS THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHY I PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED 'CAUSE I WAS STRUGGLING TO FIND ANYTHING
UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH A GRANT, DOES THE CITY HAVE GRANT WRITERS ON STAFF OR DO THEY CONTRACT WITH GRANT WRITERS, OR WOULD IT BE UP TO THE COMMISSION TO VOLUNTEER TO WRITE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF TO WRITE THE GRANT.
UH, WE DO HAVE A GRANT COORDINATOR THAT WOULD LOOK OVER THAT GRANT, EXCUSE ME, FOR BEFORE IT GOT SUBMITTED.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE UP TO US TO DO THAT.
UM, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE TIMELINE ON THAT SINCE YOU KNOW, THE INS AND OUTS OF THE CITY BUDGET AND ALL THAT, THAT STUFF? SURE, SURE.
SO, UM, WE HAVE UNTIL MID TO LATER, UH, JANUARY.
UM, BUT THE GRANTS ARE, THE GRANTS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET ANYTIME DURING THE YEAR, SO, OKAY.
REALLY WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT IS IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS, WHAT GRANTS OF THE COMMISSION.
AND KNOWING THAT IT'S A 40% MATCH, UH, FIGURING THAT INTO OUR BUDGET LINE ITEM, UH, FOR THAT.
AND THEN ONCE, IF WE DO GET A GRANT, UM, THAT CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT BUDGET.
SO IF THE GRANT WOULD BE TO REIMBURSE FOR PAYING SOMEONE TO DESIGNATE A PROPERTY, AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT, TWO, $3,000? SO THE GRANT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO, UM, UH, BASICALLY REDO THE SURVEY BOOK UHHUH AND TO POSSIBLY, UH, DO MORE SURVEYS OF PROPERTIES THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS DEFINED, UH, ON YOUR SEARCHES.
UM, AND SO, UH, IT COULD BE ANYTHING BETWEEN SAY, A 600 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A FULL SURVEY OF A PROPERTY TO WELL OVER $30,000 TO DO THE FULL UPDATE OF OUR SURVEY BOOK.
THEY ALSO SENT OVER SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, I SAID WE'VE, WE'VE GOT ONE SURVEYOR THAT WE'VE USED PRETTY REGULARLY,
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UM, AND THEY SAID, YEP, THAT, AND SHE'S GOOD.UM, BUT THEY SAID, HERE ARE SOME OTHERS IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.
SO THEY, THEY SENT OVER SO WE COULD GET, UM, COMPETITIVE QUOTES TOO.
AND ONE OF 'EM I'M AWARE OF, AND HE'D BE, HE'D BE GOOD TOO.
UH, DO YOU WANT ME TO FORWARD ALL THAT STUFF TO YOU, STEVE? YES, PLEASE.
ANYTHING ELSE WITH, UH, CLG GRANTS AND NO CHAIR, WHAT HAVE YOU? OKAY.
UH, FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. MONDAY, JANUARY 6TH, 2025.
WOULD IT REALLY BE THE SIXTH? I WAS THINKING IT WOULD BE LATER, BUT SIX.
FIRST MONDAY SNEAKS UP ON YOU, DOESN'T IT? YES.
THEN, UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE, WE DO MEET AT THE VERY LEAST, TO, TO GET, UM, OUR NEW, UH, COMMISSIONERS ONBOARDED AND, AND INTRODUCED AND DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I'M IN TOWN ON THE SIXTH THAT I'LL CHECK.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'M JUST GONNA SAY, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, JANUARY IS ALSO THE MONTH THE COMMISSION ELECTS OFFICERS.
SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET A CHAIR INSTEAD OF AN ACTING CHAIR.
SO AT THIS TIME, UH, WE'LL MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT AT 4 34.