* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. GOOD MORNING [1. CALL TO ORDER] EVERYONE. I JUST WANT TO JUST CHECK WITH THE COUNCIL. ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH RELAXING THE RULES FOR EATING AT THE DAIS WHILE WE HAVE THIS NINE HOUR MEETING? INDEED BEING EVERYBODY HAS FOOD IN IT IN FRONT OF THEM. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. EXCEPT FOR MELISSA. MELISSA, DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GONNA BRING THE DONUTS OUT AND JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. RIGHT BACK HERE. . WELL, IN FRONT OF BARBARA. THERE'S ONE RIGHT HERE. THERE YOU GO. IT'S SO TASTY. ALRIGHT, LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. UH, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU READ THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR JALO. HERE. VICE MAYOR PLU. PRESENT. COUNCILOR DUNN? HERE. COUNCILOR FUL. COUNCILOR FURMAN. HERE. COUNCILOR KINSELLA. PRESENT. COUNCILOR FAF HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. [3. SPECIAL BUSINESS] UH, ITEM THREE, SPECIAL BUSINESS. A PRESENTATION, UPDATES REGARDING THE FOLLOWING. AND THERE'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS HERE ON, ON THE AGENDA. SO, UH, BARBARA, I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE GONNA KICK THIS OFF. ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA LET ANNETTE KICK IT OFF AND THEN SHE'LL TURN IT OVER TO ME. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. HELLO. OKAY, HOPEFULLY THAT'S CATCHING. OKAY. UM, REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY FOR OUR FIRST RETREAT WITH YOU. AS YOU KNOW, BARBARA AND I ARE NEW TO THE ORGANIZATION THIS YEAR. UM, AND SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE LEADERSHIP TEAM TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO STRUCTURE OUR CONVERSATION WITH YOU OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A NICE INTERACTIVE, UH, MAYBE MORE INFORMAL CONVERSATION WITH YOU TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, UH, THE AREAS YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, WHICH WILL HELP INFORM BARBARA AND I GOING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE STAFF ABOUT, UM, THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL THAT, UM, UM, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT. UM, SO WHAT WE DID THIS TIME IS, UM, WE TOOK YOUR SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH YOU ADOPTED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. UM, AND I FEEL IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IMPORTANT GOAL AREAS THAT THE CITY, UH, SHOULD ADDRESS. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF ACTION ITEMS, STRATEGIES, UH, DESCRIPTIONS OF, UM, VISION AND ASPIRATIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS DOCUMENT. AND SO WE DECIDED TO, UH, STRUCTURE THE RETREAT AROUND THE GOAL AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. UM, WE WILL BE REFERRING TO THIS AT DIFFERENT POINTS. UH, JOANNE HAS EXTRA COPIES FOR YOU IF YOU NEED A COPY. UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT TO SHOW HOW ALL THE EFFORTS AT THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY TIE IN AND SUPPORT, UM, YOUR COMMUNITY PLAN. UH, ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, THE BUDGET STAFF, AS YOU WILL SEE, DID GO THROUGH OUR ENTIRE BUDGET AND MATCH UP ALL OF OUR SPENDING AND, UH, SPENDING ALLOCATIONS TO EACH OF THE GOAL AREAS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A HOLISTIC VIEW OF HOW THE RESOURCES ARE INVESTED IN ALL OF THESE AREAS. UM, I WILL REMIND YOU THAT WE DO HAVE A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE ORDER OF THE PRESENTATIONS. UM, THE LAND USE GOAL WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ONE TOMORROW. AND INSTEAD TODAY WE WILL DO ECONOMY AND TOURISM GOAL, UM, AFTER THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY ONE. UM, LET'S SEE IF I'M FORGETTING ANYTHING ELSE. UM, YOU'RE GONNA SWAP PLACES, CORRECT. GREAT, THANK YOU. WE WILL PAUSE AT THE END OF EACH GOAL SECTION FOR YOUR, UM, DELI YOUR DISCUSSION AND ANY DIRECTION YOU WANNA GIVE AT THAT TIME. WE WILL ALSO HAVE A WRAP UP AT THE END OF EACH DAY, YOU KNOW, TO CAPTURE ALL YOUR THOUGHTS. SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN PROVIDE US FEEDBACK TO HELP US COMPILE THE ULTIMATE, YOU KNOW, GOAL, UH, LIST FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. IN THE PACKET. WE ALSO INCLUDED THE NOVEMBER STATUS UPDATE OF YOUR CURRENT GOAL AREAS. UM, AND WE PUT THAT INTO A NEW FORMAT AS A WORD DOCUMENT INSTEAD OF AS AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WAS HELPFUL AND READABLE. UM, THANKS TO CHRISTIE IN OUR OFFICE WHO DID THAT. UM, WE WEREN'T PLANNING TO GO OVER THAT DOCUMENT IN DETAIL AS PART OF THIS, BUT OF COURSE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THERE THAT YOU WANNA ASK ABOUT OR BRING UP, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FREE TO DO THAT. UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S [00:05:01] IT FOR MY OPENING COMMENTS. REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THIS GOES TODAY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK. UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, OR I GUESS THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS INSTEAD OF EACH DEPARTMENT GOING ONE AT A TIME, UH, WE, DEPENDING ON THE GOAL AREA, WE WILL HAVE MORE THAN ONE DEPARTMENT PRESENT FOR THAT GOAL AREA BECAUSE MANY OF THESE TAKE A TEAM TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, PRESENT IN A MORE OF A TEAM, UH, FASHION. UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BARBARA SO HE, SHE CAN GIVE YOU THE BIG PICTURE OF THE BUDGET AND, UM, GET US STARTED FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE BEFORE WE DIVE INTO EACH GOAL. OH, ONE ONE QUICK QUESTION. UH, IN THE LAST TWO RETREATS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, WE'VE HAD SOME TIME DEDICATED TO JUST A, UH, SORT OF SELF REVIEW OF HOW OUR, OUR POLICIES SUPPORTING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FROM THE DAAS, HOW OUR MEETINGS ARE GOING, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S USUALLY WHEN I GET VOTED OFF THE ISLAND ABOUT MOMENT OF ART, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE TO NOT LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE VOTED OFF THE ISLAND AGAIN. SO JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN WORK THAT IN AT SOME POINT DURING THE TWO DAYS. SO, UH, COUNCILOR FOLTZ, UM, THE LAST, UH, CATEGORY, WHICH I, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER TO DESCRIBE. UH, SO THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES WE ADDED TO YOUR AGENDA THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY GOAL AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. AND ONE IS AROUND WHAT WE'RE CALLING LIVABILITY, WHICH ADDRESSES PUBLIC SAFETY, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THE OTHER ONE IS WE'VE TERMED GOOD GOVERNANCE AND THAT COVERS CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE, CITY CLERK, FINANCE, HR, IT, UM, THOSE SERVICES. AND SO THAT IS AT THE END OF DAY TWO. AND THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE, I THINK, TO TALK ABOUT HOW CITY COUNCIL, SO THAT WE END ON A HIGH NOTE. THERE YOU GO. SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO . YEAH. AND, UH, I BELIEVE THE ITEM THAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP LAST NIGHT ABOUT POTENTIAL SPECIAL AWARDS DURING THE YEAR, UM, COULD BE DISCUSSED UNDER THAT CATEGORY AS WELL. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET ROLLING? GREAT, THANK YOU. OKAY, BARBARA. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. SO, UH, I WILL START WITH A BIT OF A BUDGET AND PERFORMANCE REVIEW. SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT OUR PERFORMANCE RELATIVE TO THE BUDGET HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST, UM, 10 YEARS. SO I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN THIS GRAPH BEFORE, BUT WHAT I DID A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY WAS THAT I PULLED OUT CIP VERSUS OPERATIONS BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE A REAL BUDGET TREND WHEN IT GOES UP AND DOWN IN THE AGGREGATE BASED ON CIP INVESTMENTS OR PLANNED CIP INVESTMENTS. AND SO I, I DID THIS SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THAT REALLY OVER TIME OPERATIONS IS JUST STEADILY INCREASING AT ABOUT 7.7%. AND THAT'S ALL OPERATIONS, THAT'S WASTEWATER GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS POLICE, FINANCE, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT. UM, STREETS MAINTENANCE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND 7.7% IS A, IS A PRETTY REASONABLE AMOUNT. I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS WHERE IT'S HIGHER AND YEARS THAT IT'S A LOT LOWER, BUT THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE AMOUNT. AND ACTUALLY, WHEN I WAS, UM, A CONTROLLER IN TEXAS, THE LIMIT IN TEXAS THAT YOUR GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS COULD GO UP, WHICH OF COURSE WOULDN'T INCLUDE WASTEWATER, WAS 8%. SO, AND WE ALL KNOW TEXAS NOW. TEXAS IS A LITTLE CRAZIER THAN THAT NOW, BUT AT THE TIME, UM, THAT WAS THEIR VERY REASONABLE SORT OF LIMITATION. SO WITHIN THE CITY, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF FUNDS AND WHEN WE SEE THE BUDGET IN THE AGGREGATE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE FUNDS TOGETHER. THE GENERAL FUND IS THAT PRIMARY OPERATING FUND, YOU KNOW, WHERE POLICE, UM, FINANCE, CITY MANAGER, HR, IT, ALL THAT STUFF IS HOUSED. AND THEN THE WASTEWATER FUND IS WHAT'S CALLED AN ENTERPRISE FUND. IT'S TREATED LIKE A BUSINESS IN THE WAY THAT THE ACCOUNTING IS DONE. THE PUBLIC TRANSIT FUND IS ALSO AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND THEN THE STREETS FUND IS A GOVERNMENTAL FUND, KIND OF FALLS UNDER THE GENERAL FUND. SO IT'S AN OPERATING FUND UNDER THAT. THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND WHERE MOST OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE EXCEPT FOR WASTEWATER, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THEIR OWN. AND THEN WE HAVE LIKE TRANSPORTATION, SALES TAX GRANTS AND DONATIONS. WE HAVE SEVERAL [00:10:01] MORE, BUT THESE ARE GENERALLY THE TYPES OF FUNDS WE HAVE, LIKE THE SPECIAL REVENUE, WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION, SALES TAX AND GRANTS. AND THEN AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND LIKE IT WHERE ALL OF THE COSTS WITHIN THAT FUND ARE ALLOCATED TO OTHER PLACES BASED ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY'RE USING. SO THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET, BROKEN DOWN BY THE PRIORITY AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. AND THEN WITH THE ADDITION OF LIVABILITY AND GOOD GOVERNANCE, UM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KIND OF BE ABLE TO SEE THE BUILDING BLOCKS AND WHERE SORT OF THE FOCUS AREAS ARE, UM, AT LEAST AS FAR AS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S YOUR CURRENT PRIORITY, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY GOES RIGHT NOW. AND THEN HERE'S THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET BY DEPARTMENT. UM, AND I TRIED TO SIZE THEM SO YOU COULD KIND OF GET AN IDEA. AND INTERNAL SERVICES IS NET OF ALL THE CHARGES TO OTHER PLACES. 'CAUSE WE DO COST ALLOCATIONS. UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT CHANGING THAT IN THE COMING BUDGET SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENT AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE TOTAL COSTS AND THEN HOW MUCH IS TRANSFERRED IN TO COVER IT. AND YEAH, FORGOT I PUT THAT THERE. SO HERE'S OUR BUDGETARY PERFORMANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND THE EXECUTION RATE IS A TERM THAT I, I LEARNED FROM ROXANNE HOLLAND. SO THANK YOU ROXANNE. UM, BUT IT BASICALLY MEANS LIKE IF WE BUDGET A HUNDRED DOLLARS, HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING? ARE WE SPENDING 50? ARE WE SPENDING 99? AND WE GENERALLY SPEND OUT OF LIKE EVERY A HUNDRED DOLLARS, ABOUT 90. YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A GOAL OF LIKE NOT LESS THAN 85%. UM, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY OVER BUDGETING, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU'VE HAD SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPEN IN A DEPARTMENT. LIKE YOU'RE SHORT, A COUPLE OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL ROLES AND YOU HAVE A FAIRLY SMALL DEPARTMENT OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE HAS BEEN REORGANIZED. YOU USUALLY DON'T SEE DEPARTMENTS COME IN LESS THAN 85%. AND SO OUR EXECUTION RATE IN THE GENERAL FUND IS ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD OVER TIME. UM, YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU KNOW, DURING COVID IT WAS A LITTLE LOWER, BUT THAT'S REALLY TO BE EXPECTED. MAYOR, WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK QUESTIONS? GREAT. YEAH. HEAVEN. UH, WHOEVER WANTS TO JUST DO THAT INFORMAL MODE. THERE YOU GO. SOMEONE USED TO SAY YES, , SOMEONE USED TO SAY THANK YOU. I WAS INTRIGUED ABOUT THIS CHART AND JUST WONDERED BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE, THIS TREND, YOU KNOW, HAD A LONG TERM TREND OF THE EXECUTION RATE DECLINING, BUT SOMETHING CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR. AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT WAS THE DELIBERATE CHANGE OR IF THAT'S AN ARTIFACT OF SOME CIP SPEND OR SOMETHING. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING TREND. SO FY 23 WOULD'VE BEEN THE YEAR THAT ENDED JUNE 30, 23. YES. RIGHT BEFORE MY TIME. SO I'M UNSURE. MAYBE ANDY HAS SOME INSIGHTS. WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN 22, 23 THAT, UM, WE PROBABLY, UH, I DON'T KNOW, DID WE HAVE ALL OF OUR POSITIONS FILLED MORE OR LESS AT THAT POINT? WAS IT POSSIBLY THE PURCHASE OF THE CULTURAL PARK? IT SHOULDN'T BE. THIS IS OPERATIONS. I THINK IT WAS BIG SALARY INCREASES, WASN'T IT, THAT WE DID THAT ONE TIME ADJUSTMENTS. NOTHING'S REALLY STANDING OUT TO ME RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN SEE THE BIGGER DIP IS FY 22 AND THEN IT BOUNCED BACK. YEAH, SOME OF THAT, IF YOU GO BACK TO 20 WHEN COVID HIT, WE PURPOSEFULLY HELD BACK ON ON SPENDING. SO I THINK 20 AND 21 WOULD REFLECT THAT, BUT 22, THAT GAP, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. 23 OF COURSE IS THE BOUNCE BACK FROM, FROM THAT, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, WE HAD, DO YOU REMEMBER WE HAD THOSE HUGE VACANCY RATE, YOU, YOU QUESTIONED IT MM-HMM . LIKE 23% OR SOMETHING, AND THEN WE DID SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THAT FACT. YEAH. AND THEN HIRING LOOSENED A LITTLE BIT THAT THAT'S TRUE. AFTER COVID, WE DID SEE OUR VACANCY, UM, RATE GO UP QUITE A BIT. SO, SO I, I JUST ALSO WANNA POINT OUT, PETE, IF YOU, IF COVID BEING A FACTOR FOR 20 AND 21, IF YOU SMOOTH OUT THAT DIP, THAT'S NOT A BIG INCREASE THEN IN THE LINE, IN THE TREND LINE. MM-HMM . IF YOU SMOOTH IT OUT TO SORT OF, OF STAY IN LINE WITH THE LINE TO THE LEFT, SO 2019, THEN THE INCREASE IN 23 IS REALLY DOESN'T LOOK AS SIGNIFICANT AS IT DOES HERE BECAUSE OF THE, [00:15:01] THE DIP IN, IN COVID. SO I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO JUST SORT OF EVEN THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT TOO. RIGHT. BUT OVERALL, THERE IS A, WAS A LONG TERM TREND OF DECLINE AND IT, AND THEN STABILIZATION MAYBE, MAYBE HAS GONE UP. WE DON'T KNOW YET. . IT HASN'T GONE UP BY AS MUCH AS WE THINK. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT WE HAVE CITYWIDE OPERATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, THE WASTEWATER FUND. SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND THESE ARE THE GOAL AREAS AND WHERE, UM, THE MONEY IS GOING BASED ON THE GOAL AREA. AND THEN HERE, CAPITAL PROJECTS BY THE GOAL AREA. UM, RIGHT NOW MOST OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE IN CIRCULATION. UM, AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE WASTEWATER. UM, HOW DIFFICULT WAS IT TO IDENTIFY THE LIVABILITY WAS, YOU KNOW, OR CIRCUIT THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES? WAS THAT A COMPLEX EXERCISE OR WAS IT PRETTY EASY CATEGORIZATION JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THE SPEND WAS ACTUALLY WITHIN, WITHIN OUR SYSTEM, WHEN WE IDENTIFY PROJECTS, LIKE WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY SEDONA IN MOTION STREETS, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE LABELED THAT WAY. SO IT WASN'T TERRIBLY HARD. IT WAS AN EXACTING PROJECT FOR STERLING. SO I HAVE TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO STERLING. AND THEN WE TOOK WHAT HE DID AND DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS REVIEWED IT AND WE MADE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS. SO I, I WOULDN'T SAY IT WAS DIFFICULT. AND NOW THAT THE PROJECTS WITHIN OUR NEW BUDGET SOFTWARE ARE IDENTIFIED THAT WAY AND OPERATIONS, LIKE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK THEM OVER TIME WITHOUT HAVING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL ALL THE TIME. SO, UM, NOT HARD, JUST SORT OF A LOT OF DATA THAT HAD TO BE ANALYZED, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FINANCE PEOPLE, WE WERE ALL OVER IT . SO. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON. UM, SO BEFORE YOU, YOU MOVE, OH, GO AHEAD. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON. YES MA'AM. WHAT IS COMMUNITY? 'CAUSE I JUST WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITION AND IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR TO ME WHAT'S IN THAT IN THE COMMUNITY GOAL? THAT WOULD BE MOSTLY PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS. OKAY. THEY GO. UM, SO I HAVE HAVE THE DETAILED, SO HERE'S THE DETAILED WORKSHEET, UM, THAT STERLING COMPILED FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENT HUS TO MAKE SURE THEIR SERVICES WERE IN THE CORRECT SPOT. AND ITEMS THAT, UH, ARE IN THE COMMUNITY GOAL HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, PARK AND RECREATION, SPECIAL EVENTS, AQUATICS, PARKS, FACILITIES. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ANOTHER, UM, AREA, UM, I BELIEVE ALSO THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMPONENT. IS THAT NOT IN THE COMMUNITY GOAL? I BELIEVE? YES. YES. SO, UM, ANYTHING RELATED TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY GOAL HAS TO DO WITH CREATING PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER, INTERACT AND SHARE EXPERIENCES, HOW WE OFFER ACTIVITIES, EVENTS, AND PROGRAMS TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO BUILD COMMUNITY THROUGH CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, THROUGH OPPORTUNITIES IN ART AND CULTURE, WHAT WE DO TO PRESERVE HISTORIC SITES AND SEDONAS HISTORY IS SORT OF THE HIGH LEVEL DEFINITION IN THE PLAN. SO, SO IF ALL THAT'S IN COMMUNITY, WHAT'S IN LIVABILITY? LIVABILITY IS THE CATEGORY THAT, UM, WE INTERNALLY CREATED TO CAPTURE BASICALLY PUBLIC SAFETY, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY PLAN DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THAT WOULD BE P POLICE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, ENSURING LIKE THE CODES FOLLOWED SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY IS PRESERVED THE PROTECTION OF THE CITIZENS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN I JUST GO AHEAD, JUST JUMP IN. SO UNDER, UM, LIVABILITY, YOU TALKED ABOUT SAFETY, WE WOULD ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT IF WE HAD ANYTHING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MONITOR HEALTH OR WE'RE WORKING WITH NEH TO TRY AND FIND OUT IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, IMPACTS LIKE FROM SMOKE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD ALSO THEN, I ASSUME GO INTO LIVABILITY, ANY FUNDING WE WOULD SPEND THERE? YES, I THINK SO. UM, WE KIND OF SKIPPED OVER SOME OF THE EARLY SLIDES, UM, BUT IN YOUR PACKET, PAGE EIGHT, WE PUT WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE GOOD, UM, DEFINITIONS FOR LIVABILITY AND GOOD GOVERNANCE. AND SO WE TALK ABOUT FUNCTIONS THAT ENSURE THE CITY IS SAFE, HEALTHY, AND LIVABLE. SO YES, [00:20:01] THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOT ONTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. OKAY. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GET BACK TO MY SLIDE. OKAY, SO MOVING ON. SO I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING, BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL KNOW SOME OF THIS, AND I DON'T EVER WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I'M TRYING TO TEACH YOU SOMETHING YOU ALREADY KNOW, BUT I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND HOW WE SET CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGETS, HOW THEIR TIMING WORKS, AND YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT, THAT AREN'T INTUITIVE NECESSARILY TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WORK IN GOVERNMENT EVERY DAY. SO USUALLY WHEN YOU BUDGET A CAPITAL PROJECT, AND WE'VE BEEN LIMITED BY SOME OF OUR SOFTWARE IN HOW WE'VE BUDGETED, BUT THIS IS SORT OF IDEAL. AND WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH OUR NEW SOFTWARE IS YOU HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGET AND SAY IT'S $10 MILLION, AND THIS IS LIKE A MADE UP PROJECT. I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, NO PROJECT WE HAVE. AND YOU, YOU THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE FOUR YEARS AND YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, A MILLION, 3 MILLION, 4 MILLION, 2 MILLION, AND YOU'VE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW, PLAN FOR HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. AND THEN YOU GET INTO IT AND YOU'VE MADE THESE ANNUAL ESTIMATES BASED ON A TOTAL BUDGET, AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SPEND THAT AMOUNT EVERY YEAR. LIKE SAY IN THE FIRST YEAR, YOU'RE TOTALLY GOOD, YOU GET YOUR ACTUALS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON, NEVER GONNA BE EXACT, BUT YOU KNOW, CLOSE. BUT THEN IN YEAR TWO, YOU'VE GOT A BUDGET OF 3 MILLION, AND WHAT IF YOU ONLY SPENT A MILLION? WELL, THAT 2 MILLION DOESN'T JUST GO AWAY. LIKE THOSE LEFTOVERS, IF YOU WILL, ARE STILL GONNA GET EATEN BY THE PROJECT. THEY SHOULD ROLL INTO THE NEXT YEAR FOR THE PROJECT, ASSUMING THE PROJECT ISN'T PUT ON HOLD OR DEFUNDED FOR SOME REASON. BUT THOSE LEFTOVERS BASICALLY ROLL FROM THAT 3 MILLION, YOU HAVE TWO LEFTOVER, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET GOES UP BY THAT AMOUNT. SO YOU STILL HAVE A TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET OF 10 MILLION. AND SO THEN SAY IN THAT NEXT YEAR, YOU STILL DON'T SPEND THE WHOLE AMOUNT, THOSE LEFTOVERS CONTINUE TO ROLL FORWARD UNTIL THE PROJECT IS CLOSED OUT AND DONE IN THEORY FOR THE ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, BUDGETED AMOUNT OF 10 MILLION. SO THAT'S HOW A CAPITAL PROJECT SHOULD FLOW. UM, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY IN REALITY, AS WE KNOW. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PROJECTS ARE PUT ON HOLD FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, AND THEN THE FUNDS ARE, ARE USED ELSEWHERE. BUT THIS IS GENERALLY HOW A CAPITAL PROJECT IN A CITY WILL, WILL FLOW. AND BUDGETS ALSO GO UP AND DOWN BASED ON, YOU KNOW, CRAZY THINGS THAT WE FIND WHEN WE'RE EXCAVATING FOR SOMETHING OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, OH MY GOD, HAND TO GOD, LIKE THE BUDGET COULD GO DOWN. THAT'S FAIRLY UNUSUAL. UM, BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GENERAL FLOW OF HOW A CAPITAL PROJECT HAPPENS. AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE INTERNALLY THIS CAPITAL BUDGET POLICY THAT WE USE TO DETERMINE THE PRIORITY OF A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE EITHER SUBMITTING OR ALREADY HAVE. SO PRIORITY ONE MEANS WE HAVE TO DO IT LIKE IT'S LEGALLY REQUIRED, IT'S RELATED TO HEALTH OR SAFETY. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. PRIORITY TWO MEANS THAT IT'S AN ESSENTIAL PROJECT AND WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO IT. BUT IF THERE'S ONLY ENOUGH MONEY TO LIKE AN EITHER OR, THE PRIORITY ONE WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST BECAUSE IT'S HEALTH AND SAFETY OR LEGALLY REQUIRED. SO PRIORITY TWO IS GONNA REPLACE OBSOLETE, OBSOLETE THINGS. IT'S GONNA MAINTAIN EXISTING NATURAL RESOURCES, REDUCE FUTURE OPERATING COSTS, WHICH IS LIKE FANTASTIC. SO THAT'S PRIORITY TWO. PRIORITY THREE IS IMPORTANT. LIKE WE COULD DO IT AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE NICE, BUT IT'S NOT RISING TO THE LEVEL OF ESSENTIAL OR IMPERATIVE. AND THEN PRIORITY FOUR ARE PROJECTS THAT WE USUALLY PUT FURTHER OUT IN A PLAN, EVEN IF THEY'RE LIKE DESIRABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REACHING THOSE OTHER THREE LEVELS. SO THAT'S HOW WE PRIORITIZE CAPITAL PROJECTS INTERNALLY. NOW, OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL CAN MAKE DECISIONS AND SAY, WE REALLY BELIEVE THIS ONE THAT YOU'VE SAID IS PRIORITY THREE IS A PRIORITY TOO. WE THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL. AND THAT'S REALLY YOUR ROLE, RIGHT? IS TO SAY, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG. THIS IS HOW WE WANNA STRUCTURE IT. BUT INTERNALLY, THIS IS HOW WE WOULD BRING A PROJECT TO YOU AND SAY, WE BELIEVE IT'S A PRIORITY, 1, 2, 3, OR FOUR. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I DON'T WANNA JUST ROLL THROUGH WITHOUT GIVING YOU SPACE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE PREVIEW OF WHAT WILL BE SOME, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, [00:25:01] UM, AT THE END, JUST AREAS THAT STAFF IS EVALUATING FOR THE BUDGET WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO DECISION PACKAGES ON. AND SOME OF THOSE AREAS ARE TRAFFIC MITIGATION, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS A PAIN POINT. SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES, ONGOING HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, FLEET MANAGEMENT, AND POLICY UPDATES. WE'RE WORKING ON A LOT OF POLICY UPDATES, AS YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT YOU ADOPTED A POLICY FOR SINGLE AUDIT, AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF THOSE GOING. YOU, YOU SHOULD SEE SOME COMING UP IN JANUARY. AND IF I MAY CLARIFY, SINCE POLICY UPDATES IS KIND OF A BIG BROAD TERM, WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO HERE ARE YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, SORT OF LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, NOT YOUR COUNSEL POLICIES IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY PARTICULAR, UM, ISSUE. UH, THIS IS MORE, WE HAVE SOME EXISTING, UM, POLICIES THAT DIRECT OR, UM, GIVE THE RULES TO THE STAFF ON HOW WE DO THINGS, UH, PROCUREMENT, DEBT, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND SO THAT IS A PROJECT AREA THAT BARBARA AND I ARE WORKING ON TO GET THOSE, UH, MODERNIZED AND UPDATED AND BRING BACK TO YOU. WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER ORDINANCE, UM, AMENDMENTS? CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS? ARE YOU TALKING THE, LIKE WHEN WE CHANGE, UH, DO AN AMENDMENT TO AN ORDINANCE WHICH DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF LEVEL THRESHOLD REVIEW AS A NEW ORDINANCE, IS THAT A POLICY UPDATE? NO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A DISCUSSION THAT FALLS INTO WHATEVER PROJECT ABOUT, UM, I DON'T, I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE OR POLICY ISSUE IS ABOUT AMENDING ORDINANCES. YEAH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GENERALLY AN ORDINANCE WOULD IS NOT A POLICY AND IT'S SEPARATE. IT'S CONTROLLED BY COUNCIL, IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO BARBARA, ON THESE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AREAS, IN SUBSEQUENT PARTS OF THE NEXT TWO DAYS, WE'LL TAKE ON EACH OF THESE THINGS SPECIFICALLY. YES. AT THE END OF DAY TWO, BEFORE WE GET INTO, UH, COUNCIL SECTION, THERE'S A SECTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION AREAS WITH A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, NOT REALLY FLESHED OUT, BUT ENOUGH TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE FROM US IN THE, IN THE BUDGET AS WE BRING YOU DECISION PACKAGES AND PROPOSALS. YEAH, WE HAD HEARD FROM SEVERAL COUNSELORS IN PREPARING FOR THIS SINCE AGAIN, IT'S OUR FIRST TIME THROUGH WITH YOU, UM, THAT COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT STAFF THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT ISSUES, UH, FOR THE CITY TO WORK ON. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE HERE. SO THEN I WANTED TO FOLLOW THAT UP WITH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS, LET ME BACK UP AND SAY, I, I'M REALLY INTRIGUED BY THE NEW FORMAT AND ESPECIALLY THE MAPPING TO OUR COMMUNITY PLAN. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. DEAD ON, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT EFFORT, AND I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TRANSITION TIME OVER PROBABLY THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS IF WE CONTINUE THIS, THAT, TO UNDERSTANDING THESE MAP, HOW ALL THIS MAPPING COMES TOGETHER. AND I'M WONDERING, WHEN WE TAKE ON THESE SPECIFIC THINGS, WILL WE GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE MAPPING TO THE COMMUNITY AREAS, YOU KNOW, JUST AS THAT EDUCATION PROCESS, WE BUILD THAT ABILITY TO MAKE THE CONNECTIONS OURSELVES? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO MY INTENT IS THAT WHEN I PRESENT YOU WITH YOUR BUDGETS AND THINGS THAT, THAT MAPPINGS PART OF THAT, UM, DOCUMENT AS WELL WILL BE UPDATING THE FORMAT OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, ALL SORTS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS SO THAT THIS BECOMES REALLY A LIVING TOOL, UM, AND THEN, AND INTEGRATED WITH OUR BUDGET, AND WE START TO HAVE LIKE A VERY COHESIVE, UM, COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY WE'RE DOING IT, HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO DO IT, WHEN WE'RE GONNA DO IT, THAT TYPE OF THING. GREAT. MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA TRANSITION INTO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY PLAN AREAS, STARTING WITH THE CIRCULATION GOAL. AND I'M GONNA PUSH MY MICROPHONE AWAY AND TURN IT OVER TO ANDY AND KURT HARRIS AND COUNSEL, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UM, THE CIRCULATION CHAPTER IN YOUR COMMUNITY PLAN DOCUMENT, THE DETAILED SECTION STARTS ON PAGE 61. AND, UM, AGAIN, WHEN WE WERE PREPARING [00:30:01] FOR THIS, UM, AND I LOOKED AT THIS CHAPTER AND THE KEY ISSUES AND EVERYTHING, IT'S, UM, GOOD TO SEE THAT WE ARE LIVING AND BREATHING THIS ACTUAL CHAPTER RIGHT NOW. UM, THE WHOLE THING. SO, AND I BELIEVE IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT, UM, , HOLD ON. I'M SO SORRY. PAGE 78 IS A SUMMARY OF CIRCULATION ACTIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT OF THESE ACTIONS ARE THINGS THAT ARE UNDERWAY. OKAY, SO I WAS JUST GONNA LEAD OFF WITH RECAPPING THE PAST FEW YEARS. WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON THE PRIORITY SET BY THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN FROM 2018 AS WE BRANDED SEDONA IN MOTION. YOU'LL SEE AS WE GET INTO THIS, THAT A GOOD PORTION OF THE BUDGET IS SET. THIS IS CAPITAL HERE. SO FOR FY 25, YOU CAN SEE A LARGE PORTION, 71% IS ALLOCATED TO CIRCULATION. THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKOUT OF THAT. YOU'VE GOT SEDONA IN MOTION PARKING AND TRANSIT. SO YOU CAN SEE A LARGE EMPHASIS IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET IS, UH, FOCUSED ON THAT GOAL. ANDY, JUST A QUESTION. UM, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS LIKE FY 2024 SLASH 25 MM-HMM . ARE WE, IT'S FY 25, RIGHT? YEAH, IT IS. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S NOT THE USUAL NOMENCLATURE WE SEE TO, TO MIX LIKE THAT, AND I JUST NOTICED THAT SEVERAL TIMES, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT KIND OF MORPHED OVER TIME. MANY YEARS AGO WE USED TO CALL IT, IT WAS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME, BUT 2024 DASH 2025. SO I, I THINK WE EVENTUALLY SHORTENED THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JUST 2025 . SO, UM, THEN GETTING INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT CIRCULATION BECOMES A SMALLER PORTION OF THE OVERALL BUDGET THERE, 4% OF THE GENERAL FUND AND 13% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO SPECIFIC PROJECTS NOW, AND I'LL LET KURT JUMP INTO THAT. GONNA TAKE THAT, AND THAT'S, SO GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MAYOR. UM, I WANTED TO ADD THIS PICTURE IN HERE TO SHOW YOU. THIS IS FROM LAST WEEK OF THE PROGRESS WE'VE HAD ON FOREST ROAD CONNECTION. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S REALLY TAKING SHAPE RIGHT NOW. OUR ANTICIPATION IS WHEN THIS COMES ONLINE, THIS, UH, SPRING, UM, LATE WINTER, UM, THAT THIS IS REALLY GONNA HELP THE CITY. WE'RE ALL GONNA SEE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT IN AMOUNT OF THIS BYPASS TO THE Y ROUNDABOUT. UM, BUT I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PICTURE TO KIND OF START OFF. THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY ONE WE'RE GONNA SHOW. UM, BUT, UH, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THIS PROJECT AND, AND HOW FAST IT'S COMING TOGETHER NOW WITH THE, THE UTILITIES ARE, I WANT TO POINT OUT ALSO, THIS IS THE POINTER THERE. THE POINTER IS THE MASK. OH, YEAH. SO THIS POWER LINE THAT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT. AND THE ONLY, UM, POLE IS GONNA BE REMAINING RIGHT HERE. SO THAT WHOLE, SAY THAT AGAIN. THE ONLY POLE, SEE, THE POWER POLE THAT I'M POINTING TO? YEAH, THAT'S THE LAST ONE THAT'S GONNA REMAIN. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING WHEN WE DO OUR NEXT SIM, UM, ROUNDABOUT PROJECT SIM FIVE E, THAT, UM, 89 A AND UM, FOREST ROAD THAT WILL ACTUALLY BRING THAT POWER LINE UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY. IT'S A SAFETY THING, IT'S A VISUAL THING, BUT WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE THAT WITH OUR NEXT PROJECT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT SO IT'S AESTHETICALLY IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. WE'RE GONNA DROP THOSE. AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU COULD SEE HOW, UM, THE ROCKERY WALLS ALL COMING TOGETHER, THE RETAINING WALLS ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER, UTILITIES, SO IT'S REALLY TAKING SHAPE, AND YOU'LL REALLY SEE IT SPEED UP NOW. UH, DUST WILL BE LESS AS THEY COME IN AND DO THEIR FLAT WORK, WHICH IS THE CURB, THEN THEY DO THE SIDEWALK, THEN YOU'LL SEE DOING THE ROUGH GRADES. AND THE ONE THING I WAS GONNA THROW OUT THERE REAL QUICK IS THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS, I GUESS, IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THE [00:35:01] TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT IS, AND CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 17.5 MILLION APPROXIMATELY. SO, UH, ONE OTHER THOUGHT. UM, WHAT KURT, WHAT'S THE COMPLETED LENGTH OF THE EXTENSION? LIKE WHAT, WHAT DISTANCE? GOD, IT'S, UM, I CAN, IT'S CLOSE, CLOSE TO 2000 FEET. IT, IT DEPENDS IF YOU'RE DEFINING THE COMPLETE PROJECT FROM, UM, 89 A UPTOWN ALL THE WAY TO 89 ON THE BONE, THAT'S WHAT I RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. SO CRAZY RANDOM THOUGHT. BUT WHEN THIS IS COMPLETE, YOU COULD HAVE SOME INTERESTING COMMUNITY EVENTS ON THAT PIECE OF ROADWAY PERIODICALLY. LIKE LITERALLY A ROAD RACE UP, A ROAD RACE DOWN. NOT TO MENTION A STREET LUGE GOING UP. I'M NOT GOING UP. I'LL GO DOWN. I'M NOT GONNA GO UP. , SOME OF US ARE AMBITIOUS. MAYOR, I, I GET IT. YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING. AMAZING. SO I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR BAILIWICK TO TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WHEN JOSH IS IN HERE. I MAY MENTION THAT, BUT, UH, IT LITERALLY COULD BE A REASON TO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY GATHERING, UH, ON A PERIODIC BASIS FOR SOME EVENTS LIKE THAT. AN ANOTHER THING I I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THERE'S BEEN QUESTION ABOUT ITS APPLICABILITY TO EVACUATION AND THE STEEPNESS OF THE PROFILE OF THE ROAD. AND ONE THING THAT WE CAN SAY FOR SURE IS THIS DOES PROVIDE A SECOND ACCESS INTO THE UPTOWN AREA AND CERTAINLY WILL BE USED FOR EVACUATION IF, UH, IF UNFORTUNATELY THAT EVER HAS TO HAPPEN. COUNSELOR, I'M GONNA CHALLENGE YOU TO THE STRAVA RECORD WHEN THE ROAD OPENS YOU'RE ON, I'LL SIT BACK AND WATCH AND GOOD POINT THE SLOPE AND SO ON. EVACUATION, WE WERE, THE ORIENTATION OF THIS BEING ON A SOUTH FACING, UM, SHOULD ALSO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF HAZARDS WITH SNOW, UM, WHEN IT GETS SLICK AND SO ON. BUT, UH, COUNCILLOR BRIAN, YES, UH, BISBEE AND JEROME, WHEN THERE WERE BIG BOOMING MINING TIME, MINING TOWNS HAD A BIG, HUGE MONEY, UH, CHARITY EVENTS OF SOAP, BA RACING DOWN THE TOWN AND SO ON. SO I, I SEE YOUR VISION. YES, SIR. . SO DOES THIS MEAN BECAUSE IT'S ON SOUTH SIDE, WE CAN'T USE IT FOR SLEDDING IN THE WINTER, THE ONE TIME WE GET SNOW? WELL, THAT IT'S A POSSIBILITY. YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL TAKE MOISTURE SCHOOL, SNOW AND ICE WILL MELT. UM, BETTER ON THE SIDE OF THAT. YEAH, THAT HILL FOR SURE. UNLIKE AIRPORT ROAD, RIGHT? OKAY, SO GO DOWN. NOPE, I MESSED UP. UH, I THINK YOU GO THIS WAY. YEAH, THAT WAY THAT COULD BE FUN. THERE YOU GO. AND THEN CLICK IT AGAIN. OKAY. AH, SO HERE'S OVERALL OUR SEDONA IN MOTION, UM, BETWEEN PARKING, PUBLIC TRANSIT, UH, OVER CAPITAL PROJECT. UM, YOU COULD SEE, I THINK THIS, I KNOW THIS NUMBER WILL GREATLY INCREASE AS WE FINISH UP WITH THE, UM, FOREST ROAD PROJECT. IT'S STILL GONNA BE PRETTY HIGH COMPARED WITH THE GARAGE. UM, THAT'S, THE EXCAVATION IS UNDERWAY AS WE SPEAK. SO WE GET TO THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THE NEXT WE'LL SEE CAPITAL REDUCE OVERALL WITH THESE BIG, BIG PROJECTS. UH, AGAIN, THIS IS CAPITAL. AND THEN I PUT THIS TOGETHER TO KIND OF SHOW, UM, KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM YOU. PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, HOW DOES THIS ALL TIE TOGETHER? HOW DO ALL THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS RUN? SO I REDID THIS, SHOWING BASICALLY WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, UM, WHAT'S IN OUR CONSTRUCTION PHASE RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S IN DESIGN PHASE AND WHAT'S IN STUDY PHASE. I HOPE YOU KEEP THIS WITH YOU AND SO ON. AND YOU USE THIS AS A REFERENCE GUIDE. OF COURSE, IT'S JUST DATE STAMPED NOW, BUT, UH, IT'S, UH, PRETTY OVERALL THAT COMPREHENSIVE OF HOW IT LOOKS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLORS. UH, IT'S THE SAME THING WE DO IN OUR SIM UPDATES, BUT I ADDED TO IT. AND WE'LL KEEP USING THIS AS THAT TEMPLATE. SO YOU'LL SEE THESE COLORS CHANGE OVER TIME. AGAIN, UM, AS PART OF THIS, UH, LIVABILITY AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN, UM, THE COMMUNITY PLAN IDENTIFIED TRAFFIC SINCE 2013 IS THE ISSUE. IT'S BEEN ON OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN 2018. SO THESE ARE THESE, NOW WE'RE OVER 10 YEARS OF, OF REALLY DIVING INTO HOW WE'RE GOING TO, UM, GET THE TOWN TO COME OVER THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE. UH, THE NEXT WAS HOUSING. AND UH, THEN THE THIRD WAS TOURISM, OF COURSE, BUT, SO I, I THINK THIS IS OVERALL A SNAPSHOT OF SHOWING HOW THE CITY IS SELF HELPING ITSELF OF GET, OF ADDRESSING TRAFFIC. SO BACK TO THE, UH, UH, EARLIER [00:40:01] QUESTION, FOREST ROAD, THE ENTIRE ALIGNMENT, INCLUDING THE, THE EXISTING ROAD REBUILD IS APPROXIMATELY 1,990 FEET LONG. SO YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT I JUST CAME FROM MY MEMORY. OKAY. THANK YOU ANDY. SO AS YOU COULD SEE REALLY THE NEXT, SO FOREST, I KNOW WE DID THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING NUMBER THREE, UH, NUMBER FOUR, SIM ONE B, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THE WHOLE PAVING. IT WOULD BE THIS, UM, SPRING, PROBABLY LATE SPRING. 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT DURING A SPRING BREAK. UM, EARLY SUMMER NOW. UM, SO UPTOWN WILL BE ADDRESSED. AND THEN OF COURSE THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, WOULD BE NEXT. AND, UM, THEN WE'D BE EITHER GOING EITHER OR FROM SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHICH IS THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS. AND THAT'S BASED ON, UM, THE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO HEAR BACK FROM STATE LEGISLATURE IN FEBRUARY FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT 89 A AND FOREST ROAD. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE STATE YOU WANNA HEAR? WE APPLIED FOR A REGIONAL PRIORITY LIST TO GET, UM, $8 MILLION IN FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHAT'S WE'RE GONNA GONNA DRIVE US ON WHETHER WE GET THAT FUNDING OR NOT. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVE FUNDING TO DRIVE THESE TWO, UH, ROUNDABOUTS, THE RANGER BREWER AND THE FOREST ROAD 89 A ROUNDABOUT. AND THEN HOW WE CONNECT THEM, THE WAY WE DESIGN THAT NOW IS, SO WE CAN DO EITHER OR. IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY. UM, BUT THE BUDGETS AREN'T GONNA BE, THE STATE BUDGET WON'T BE READY UNTIL JUNE OR JULY. YEAH, WE WON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY UNTIL THE SPRING. MM-HMM . AS FAR AS THE RANGER BREWER, UH, ROUNDABOUT, THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT IS PRETTY LOW. SO THE WAY WE PROGRAMMED THAT INTO OUR BUDGET DID NOT DEPEND ON GRANT FUNDING. SO WE MAY, UM, ONCE KURT GETS ALL THE OBSTACLES OUT OF THE WAY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, WE LIKELY WILL NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD WITHOUT GRANT FUNDING. ANDY, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE, UH, ROUNDABOUT THAT NACOG IS, HAS BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT. IS IT THE, IT'S THE MAJOR BREWER OR THE 89 A? IT'S, IT'S THE 89 A ROUNDABOUT. YEAH. AND THAT'S NOT LIKELY. NO. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SHOT AT. WE'RE, WE'RE RANKED NUMBER TWO IN PROJECTS, UH, IN OUR REGION RIGHT NOW. YES. AND FOR THAT SUMMARY, UM, NACOG HAS BEEN SCHEDULING, UM, UM, BRIEFINGS FOR OUR STATE LEGISLATORS REGARDING THAT PRIORITY PROJECT, THE REGIONAL PRIORITY PROJECT FOR I 80 9:00 AM BREWER. AND, UH, ANDY AND KURT WILL BE MEETING, I FORGET WHICH LEGISLATOR COMING UP. SENATOR MARK SSOM. OH, SENATOR MARK FINCHEM TO DESCRIBE THE PROJECT AS WELL. SO THEY ARE, UM, NACOG IS ACTIVELY, UM, WORKING ON PROMOTING THAT PROJECT LIST FOR INCLUSION IN THE ADOT BUDGET THIS CYCLE. YEAH. KURT AND I WILL BE TRAVELING TO THE STATE CAPITOL NEXT TUESDAY FOR THAT MEETING WITH THE SENATOR. SO FAR SO GOOD. THEY'VE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE. UM, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPTIMISTIC. UM, ANY QUESTIONS HERE? OKAY, I'LL MOVE FORWARD. UH, THESE ARE CIRCULATION OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, MOVING FORWARD. UH, SOME OF THESE ARE FROM WHAT THE COUNCIL REQUESTED. UM, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL METERING IS YOU, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DID THREE TESTS, 4TH OF JULY, LABOR DAY AND THANKSGIVING. WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THANKSGIVING TO SEE IF ANOTHER TEST IS NEEDED. UM, BASED UPON OUR OBSERVATIONS AND THOSE, UH, PREVIOUS TESTS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE TWO, IT LOOKS LIKE IT, IT, IT, IT IS A, IT HAS VALUE IN, AGAIN, KEEPING THE Y ROUNDABOUT IN A, UM, LEVEL OF SERVICE TO SEE THAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT GAP, THAT DURING PEAK TRAFFIC, UM, THAT BY HAVING THOSE SIGNAL MEETINGS, OR ORIGINALLY IT WAS POLICE OFFICERS OR SO ON, IT'S KEEPING THE FLOW MOVING. UH, WE'RE SEEING, UH, AND ESPECIALLY AS WE SAW IN OUR LAST SIM UPDATE, REMEMBER AS SOON AS WE ENDED AT TWO, IT LOOKED LIKE, UH, THE TRAVEL TIMES WENT EXPONENTIALLY UP. SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS FOR US TO WORK WITH. ADOT. WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM, OUR QUARTERLY MEETING NEXT WEEK. UH, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK UP AGAIN ON, UM, DOING AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT AND THE NEXT STEPS, AND WE'LL KEEP YOU GUYS IN TOUCH OF, UH, DOING THAT. AGAIN, THAT'S PRETTY, UM, TECHNOLOGICALLY, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. BUT THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT. IT REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT OVERALL CAPITAL COSTS, IT'S LOW COST, IMPROVE SAFETY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CONNECTIVITY AND EFFICIENCY OF THOSE ROUNDABOUTS. [00:45:01] UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IF WE DON'T GET FUNDING AS WE WANT. AND GRANT APPLICATION TO TRY TO AGAIN, REDUCE FRICTION AND ADDRESS THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE METERING, HA, HAS THAT BEEN DONE AT ROUNDABOUTS BEFORE AND WHAT'S THE SUCCESS OF DOING METERING AT ROUNDABOUTS? YEAH, SO WE'VE LOOKED INTO OTHER APPLICATIONS OF THAT. IT'S MORE COMMON IN EUROPE MM-HMM . UM, BUT THERE, THERE ARE CERTAINLY, LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WAS LESS THAN 10 ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. UM, BUT OTHER AREAS HAVE FOUND IT TO BE EFFECTIVE. TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE WITH THIS, UM, IS THAT IT'S AUTOMATED. SO YOU'RE USING A VIDEO, VIDEO DETECTION SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS THE SEQUENCING OF THESE METERS. UH, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, ELEMENT TO, TO THESE, THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS WHEN CUES BUILD UP AND TO WHAT POINT AND HOW THOSE AT DIFFERENT LEGS OF THE INTER, UH, INTERSECTION INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, MANUALLY WE'LL BE DOING WITH THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM LATER, BUT WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS STOPPED ONE LEG AND ANOTHER AT DIFFERENT SEQUENCING SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC MOVING. THAT'S THE BASIC, UM, IDEA. SO IS THIS, SO THE SOFTWARE IS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN JUST EVERY 30 SECONDS? IT, IT IS, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO NOT ONLY IS THE INTERSECTION ITSELF BEING, UM, RUN THROUGH THE SYSTEM, BUT IT'S ALSO COMMUNICATING WITH, IN OUR CASE, IT WOULD BE THE FOREST ROAD, UH, SIGNAL, FOR INSTANCE. AND EVENTUALLY, IF WE HAVE THE SIGNAL METERING, LIKE AT THE BREWER, UM, I'M SORRY, THE FOREST 89 , UH, ROUNDABOUT IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD LIKELY BE, UM, HAVE SIGNAL METERS AS WELL. AND THOSE WOULD BE SEQUENCED WITH EACH OTHER AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY, UH, WE HAVE, ONE OF THE PROJECTS IN OUR, IN OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM IS, UH, A SIGNAL AT THE RANGER 1 79 INTERSECTION. PART OF THAT IS FOR HELPING TRANSIT, UM, ACCESS ON AND OFF OF 1 79. BUT THOSE, THOSE WOULD ALL BE COORDINATED WITH EACH OTHER AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SNOBBY ROUNDABOUT, RIGHT? WHERE WE HAVE FRICTION BEING CAUSED BY THOSE LEFT TURNS AND U-TURNS WITHIN THE ROUNDABOUT, THAT COULD INCLUDE SIGNAL METERING AS WELL, AND, AND ALL OF THAT INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER, UM, WOULD BE THE WAY THAT, THAT WE GET THE MOST EFFICIENT FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT WHOLE REGION. SO WOULD WE BE BREAKING NEW GROUND TO DO THIS? OUR, OUR APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE BEYOND ANYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, FOR SURE. STRICTLY IN THE STATE, RIGHT? DEFINITELY IN THE STATE. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE APPLICATIONS I CAN THINK OF IN OREGON AND, UM, BACK ON THE EAST COAST. UH, I'M NOT THINKING OF ALL OF THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER APPLICATION IN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW. AND ADOT IS OPEN-MINDED. ENTHUSIASTIC. YEAH, CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. THEY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN TO MY SURPRISE, SO, AND ARE THEY ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS BEING A TEST POINT, APPROVING POINT FOR THE STATE? I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. UM, ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, RUN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND SHOW THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT OUT OF, OUT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THE SYSTEM AND HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO LOOK AT OTHER AREAS. THEY'RE PARTNERS. THEY'RE NOT GIVING US FREE GROUND TO MAKE A MISTAKE OR HAVE A HOME RUN. THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN IT WITH US. YES, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING THAT THEY CAN HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROJECT. THOSE ARE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH ADOT. ALL OF THIS WORK WAS DONE TO AN ENCROACHMENT PERMITS. ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE SHARED WITH COUNCIL, WE'VE BEEN SHARING WITH ADOT AS PART OF THAT ENCROACHMENT PER OF OUR FINDINGS FROM THE 4TH OF JULY LABOR DAY. AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH OUR THANKSGIVING RESULTS WITH THEM. SO YEAH, UH, THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL OFFICE HAVE BEEN, UM, WE'VE BEEN OPEN TO THEM. WE'VE INVITED THEM TO COME AND PARTICIPATE, UM, OBSERVE AND SO ON. SO IT, IT HAS BEEN OPEN AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD [00:50:01] TO THAT. AND LIKE ANDY MENTIONED, I'VE, UH, WRITTEN A LETTER AND PROPOSED TO THEM TO PERHAPS HAVE THIS AS A DISTRICT MINOR PROJECT SO ADOT CAN TAKE THE LEAD. UM, SO WE ARE COLLABORATING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO, TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS ON THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY EVERYTHING FROM 89 A, SO UP UPPER RED ROCK ROPE, THEY HAVE NOW VIDEO DETECTION. THEY UPGRADED, UH, IF YOU RECALL, I LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE, THE OLD LIGHTS IN 89 A AND WEST SEDONA WERE ALL CHANGED. WERE FROM TIMING TO DYNAMIC. UM, SYNCHRONIZING, THEY DON'T WORK VERY WELL. WELL, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE BUGS, RIGHT? LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO, UM, THEY'RE LEARNING ON THIS NEW DYNAMIC MESSAGING VERSUS THE OLD TIMING ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, HOLLY. SO, UM, THIS SYSTEM WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO PICK UP TRAFFIC AS, UH, UPPER RED ROCK ROAD AND LET KNOW WHEN THAT MORNING SLUG OF TRAFFIC IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO UPTOWN. AND THAT'S HOW THE SMART TECHNOLOGY, UH, GOOGLE HAS THIS NEW, UH, CALLED GOOGLE LIGHTS. UH, GREEN LIGHTS. IT'S ACTUALLY, AND IT'S ALL AI. AND SO THAT PREDICTS WHERE TRAFFIC IS, IT ACTUALLY WATCHES IT WITH THIS VIDEO. IT CAN SEE BETWEEN, UM, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, RESIDENTIAL PEDESTRIANS, MOTORCYCLES AND SO ON. AND THEN IT ADJUSTS THE TIMING. AND THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO TRY TO REDUCE FUEL CONSUMPTION, SUSTAINABILITY AND SO ON. SO THAT'S JUST TWO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO EVERYTHING WE DO, WE WILL HAVE TO, UH, AND NEED TO WORK WITH OUR, OUR PARTNERS ADOT IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL. THAT PART OF IS THAT PREEMPTION THAT ANDY MENTIONED. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING THESE SIGNALING METERING WITHIN. THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE LANE FOR TRANSIT. SO THAT IS A GREAT VALUE TO, UH, THE PROJECTS OR CAPITAL BUDGET, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE USING TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD HAVE PREEMPTION FOR TRANSIT OR PREEMPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. THIS TIES INTO THE EMERGENCY EVACUATION PLAN. SO WE HAVE THIS, UM, EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER NOW. WE STILL NEED TO WORK WITH ADOT GIVING US AUTHORITY TO TAKE OVER THOSE LIGHTS. SO AN EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. WE CAN REMOTELY MONITOR THOSE LIGHTS IN ANY DIRECTION WE WANT WITHOUT HAVING POLICE FORCE, WITHOUT HAVING THAT. SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE, WE WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THIS. THERE'S DISCUSSIONS OF MAKING SEDONA A SMART CITY. WELL, THAT'S NOW BRINGING IN WIFI AND DIGITAL. SO ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE COMMUNICATING NOT THROUGH WIRES, BUT UM, THROUGH ETHERNET, THROUGH THROUGH WIFI. SO, UM, THE TECHNOLOGY IS JUST WHAT, UM, WHEN LANCE TALKS ABOUT PARKING, THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE NOW IS WE WANT THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE NEED PROVEN TECHNOLOGY. AND THAT'S THE CUSP. AND WE'RE RIGHT AT THAT POINT. SO MY SECOND QUESTION, AND TO BE REALLY BRIEF WAS ABOUT THE TRANSIT LANE. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT NOW. WE'RE GONNA USE TECHNOLOGY. YES. SO THAT WAS THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN OUR SIM UPDATE ON THE 89 A FOREST ROAD. WE DON'T NEED TO PAY ALL THAT MONEY. IT WAS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS JUST TO DO A LANE FOR TRANSIT, RIGHT? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE, WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME. LET'S REMOVE THAT. AND WE CAN USE TECHNOLOGIES AS SIGNAL LEADERING TO GIVE THAT PREEMPTION TO LET TRANSIT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THESE, UM, ROUNDABOUTS, AGAIN, THAT SELLS TO THE VISITOR SAYING, HEY, THAT BUS WENT RIGHT THROUGH AND I'M SITTING HERE WAITING WHILE I'M TAKING THE BUS THE NEXT TIME. SO WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR BEFORE WE SEE THE LIGHTS AT THE Y WHICH IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR THE, OUR RESIDENTS. SO WE'LL BE WORKING IN FY 26 TO, TO SOLIDIFY THIS, THIS FUNDING. IF ADO T'S NOT ABLE TO COME TO THE TABLE, THEN WE WILL, WE'LL COME TO COUNCIL WITH A, A PLAN FOR HOW TO GET THIS MOVING AND STARTING SOMETIME IN FY 26 IS OUR PLAN. OKAY. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD WANNA BE THERE TO, TO TAKE THE LEAVE FOR THE WHOLE STATE AND TAKE THE CREDIT FOR IT. I, I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO, BUT YOU KNOW, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE LIVED THROUGH TRYING TO WORK WITH ADOT ON, UH, TIMING OF THINGS IN THE PAST, AND IT SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T WORK. IT TOTALLY DOESN'T WORK, I GUESS. THANK YOU. UM, ONE THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS, I'VE, I'VE HEARD, UM, THINGS OUT THERE, UH, SAID ABOUT WHEN WE'RE RUNNING THESE MANUAL OPERATIONS AND TESTS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SIGNAL METERING THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY TAKING THE INTERSECTION AND CREATING A SIGNALED INTERSECTION OUT OF IT. AND THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A SIGNALED INTERSECTION, RIGHT? ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UH, DIFFERENCES THAT YOU WILL SEE IN A SIGNAL METERED ROUNDABOUT VERSUS A SIGNALED INTERSECTION IS THE, THE VELOCITY, THE SPEEDS OF VEHICLES THAT PASS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, WE STILL HAVE THAT BENEFIT AND THE FLOW, UH, EFFICIENCY [00:55:01] THAT WE HAVE IN NON-HIGH CONGESTED EVENTS WHERE THE, THE, THE INTERSECTION WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE AS IT NORMALLY DOES. AND SO IT, IT, IT WILL FLOW VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN, THAN A SIGNALED, UH, INTERSECTION. BRIAN, YOU WANTED TO GO IN THEN? I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. GO AHEAD. IT, IT'S NOT ON THIS EXACT TOPIC ITEM. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ADD, ASK ONE THING THAT YOU SAID THAT THE SENSORS, THE CAMERAS OR LIGHTS WOULD STOP AT SCHIER ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD, BUT HOW FAR DOWN 1 79 OR THE SENSORS GO TO DETECT THE TRAFFIC BACKED UP FROM THE CHAPEL, UH, INTERSECTION ROUND ABOUT, WE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UH, VIDEO MONITORING, UM, APPLICATIONS AS FAR DOWN AS DOWN BY BACK AND BEYOND. SO YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO MONITOR AT LEAST, UM, THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, UM, WITHIN, NO, BUT FOR THE CENSUS, THE CENSUS FOR THE SYSTEM, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN RIGHT. A VIDEO MONITORING. RIGHT. SO WOULD THAT BE IN CONJUNCTION? IT, IT, IT COULD BE EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE FOR SURE. EXCELLENT. GO AHEAD, BRIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, KURT, YOU MENTIONED SMART CITY A MINUTE AGO, AND THAT SORT OF TRIGGERED, UH, IN MY MIND THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE VERY FEARFUL OF THAT, RIGHT? THEY THINK WE'RE ALREADY ON THE PATH TO BEING A 15 MINUTE CITY, UH, AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH USING SMART TECHNOLOGY TO, IN ANY WAY SPY ON OUR RESIDENTS IN ANY WAY INFRINGE UPON THEIR FREEDOMS, THEIR ABILITY TO, UH, CHOOSE HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIFE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, HAS BEEN RAISED AS A MATTER OF CONCERN, UH, AS A BYPRODUCT OF USING TECHNOLOGY IN, IN CIRCULATION? YEAH. YEAH, I CAN, I CAN TALK TO THAT. UM, WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE NOT, UM, MADE ANY APPLICATION, UM, OF OUR VIDEO DETECTION THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, OBSERVING INTO PRIVATE AREAS OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT. OUR FOCUS WITH OUR VIDEO MONITORING HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY ONLY ON TRAFFIC. AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING IN THE FUTURE, WE'VE, WE'VE CONSIDERED BLACKOUT AREAS WITHIN THAT VIDEO WHERE IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY BLACKOUT THE RESIDENTIAL PRIVATE AREA. AND EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO PUT A CAMERA IN A SENSITIVE AREA LIKE THAT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WORKING WITH ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THE CITY IS NOT IN ANY WAY PURSUING BECOMING A 15 MINUTE CITY, NOT AT ALL AS THAT IS, UH, POPULARLY KNOWN RIGHT OUT IN THE WORLD OF SOCIAL MEDIA. YEAH, THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT ANYTHING ON OUR RADAR RADAR THAT WE'RE PURSUING. THANK YOU. YOU BET. YEAH, I HAVEN'T EVER HEARD OF 15 MINUTE AND SMART TECHNOLOGY IS TYPICALLY USED IN METRO AREAS FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT'S ALLOWING TRAFFIC LIGHTS, AUTOMATIC, UM, UH, VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS TO TELL YOU THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, UM, RATES OF TIME. IT'S JUST FOR, UH, TRA UH, COMMUNICATION OF COMMUTES AND, AND SAFETY. REALLY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRYING TO TRACK. YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO LEARN ALL ABOUT 15 MINUTES. I, I NEVER HEARD OF IT UNTIL THEN. , I DON'T HEARD IT EITHER. I'M SORRY, BUT RIK MOVING FORWARD. UM, ANYTHING ELSE? NO. UH, SO THE, THE TRAFFIC MEETING IS A BIG POINT. WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP YOU GUYS POSTED AS WE MOVE ON THAT, UM, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS GONNA BE PRETTY BIG AND, AND HOW WE GET THIS MOVING. UM, YOU SAW, UH, AGAIN, THE FO UH, THE EXHIBIT SHOWS, THE PROPOSED CREEK WALK THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT IN THE OAK CREEK HERITAGE. UM, THAT'S JUST CONCEPT OF WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT. UM, WE'D BE BE VERY EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. I THINK THERE'S ALL KINDS OF BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY COULD HAVE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS ALEX STATED IN ALLOWING PEOPLE ACCESS ALONG THE CREEK WOULD ACTUALLY PROTECT THE RIPARIAN AREA. IF WE DON'T, THEY'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO GET THERE AND, AND CREATE, UM, IMPACTS TO THAT RIPARIAN AREA. SO I THINK AS AN ENGINEER AND UM, ENVIR RIPARIAN ADVOCATE THAT THAT'S A REAL GOOD WIN FOR THE CITY. ACQUIRING THE ADOT PARCELS IS ONGOING. AND THEN THE UPTOWN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU ALL MENTIONED THAT I CAME UP WITH THAT CONCEPT. LET'S, I THINK THERE'S MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, THE CREEK WALK SLASH ADOT PARCELS. SO, UM, [01:00:01] IF YOU WANT, I'LL JUST GIVE A REAL QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE ADOT PARCELS. ARE WE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ZOOM IN ON THAT? YOU CAN MAP. NOPE. SO WELL, LAST TIME ESCAPE, I DUNNO. YOU CAN TRY. OH YEAH, IF YOU HIT ESCAPE THEN YOU CAN. YEAH. AH, BUT THEN IT'S NOT, WE'LL GO BACK. OH YEAH, I GUESS IT STILL IS SHOWING ON TEAMS. LOOK AT THAT TECHNOLOGY. GO. OKAY. SO , AND SO WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT COUNCIL, THIS IS THE POINT IN THE, THIS PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION GOAL AREA WHERE STAFF HAS HEARD, UM, YOUR DISCUSSIONS OR COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK AND, UM, INTEREST, UM, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. AND SO WE TRIED TO CAPTURE ON THIS SLIDE SO THAT WE COULD GET SOME CONFIRMATION FROM YOU THAT YES, THESE ARE PRIORITIES THAT STAFF SHOULD, UH, BE WORKING ON IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, TIMEFRAME, UM, THAT THERE IS INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF STAFF RESOURCES AND, YOU KNOW, FORMALIZING BUDGETING AND THINGS AROUND THESE EFFORTS. THIS, I'M NOT SURE ON ONE OF THEM, WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MENTION IT THAT, UM, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD A MAJORITY YET. SO THIS WILL BE A MOMENT FOR YOU TO GIVE INPUT ON THIS PARTICULAR GOAL AREA. OKAY. SO ADOT HAS, UM, I GUESS CAME TO THE CITY AND LET THE CITY KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL HERE WE'RE CALLING PARCEL A. AND ACTUALLY, LET ME GIVE A A REAL QUICK, UM, BEARING CHECK HERE. SO SOBAR LANE IS HERE, 1 79 IS HERE. THIS IS COPPER CLIFFS DRIVE, AND THEN THIS IS PARCEL A, AND THIS IS PARCEL B. THEY'VE, UH, ADOT HAS COME TO THE CITY AND ASKED IF THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING THESE PARCELS. UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THOSE AT THE MOMENT. I'VE, UH, REACHED OUT TO A LOCAL, UM, CONSULTANT AND JUST COMPLETED A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AND THAT SHOWED NO, NO ISSUES. THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR PARCEL A, UM, ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS IS THAT THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THESE PARCELS, HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE, WHILE IT WOULD BE AT THE AMOUNT THAT ADOT PAID FOR THEM, THERE WOULD BE A DEED RESTRICTION THAT REQUIRES THAT THE CITY'S USE OF THEM BE RESTRICTED ONLY TO TRANSPORTATION USE. I HAVE VERIFIED WITH THEM THAT THIS COULD BE FOR TRAILS FOR POTENTIALLY SOME KIND OF CREEK PARK. IN THIS, IT'S A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRE PARCEL. YOU'RE THAT PARCEL. A UM, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT, UH, PARCEL DATA, YOU KNOW, LAND SURVEY INFORMATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK, UH, AS FAR AS THE CREEK WALK GOES, THIS WOULD BE A KEY PIECE TO THAT WALKWAY. IT'S JUST SOUTH OF WHERE WE JUST COMPLETED THE UNDERPASS OR THE CREEK WALK PORTION AT 1 79. THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IN THE FUTURE, A CREEK WALK CONNECT BETWEEN THIS PARCEL AND ONE 70 NINES UNDERPASS, AS WELL AS CONNECT BACK UP TO 1 79. IT WOULD BE INTENDED TO BE A DA COMPLIANT. UM, THE IDEA IS NOT TO CREATE A SLIDE ROCK VERSION 2.0 HERE, BUT TO RESTRICT USE TO THE AREA THAT WE WANT IT AND, UH, WORK THROUGH OUR, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON HOW WE ESTABLISH RESTRICTED ZONES AND HOW WE ENFORCE THAT AND KEEP, UH, KEEP FOLKS WITHIN THE WALKING PATH THAT WE DESIGNATE. SO YOU'RE TALKING PASSIVE RECREATION ONLY, NOT ACTIVE. RIGHT. THERE WAS A QUESTION LAST NIGHT ABOUT WHERE PUBLIC ACCESS WOULD BE GAINED FROM ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR LAYOUT. [01:05:01] THE IDEA WAS THAT PUBLIC ACCESS WOULD COME FROM THE NORTH END. THIS IS WHERE A CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PROPOSED OFF OF ART BARN ROAD. SO PUBLIC ACCESS WOULD BE GAINED FROM THAT POINT. THERE'S AN IDEA OF A CONNECTION ABOUT THREE QUARTERS UP FROM THE SOUTH, I GUESS THAT WOULD CONNECT UP TO FOREST ROAD THAT AS, AS A, A NOTE HERE, WOULD LIKELY NOT BE A DA COMPLIANT FOR THAT SHORT SEGMENT. THE REMAINDER OF THE PATHWAY WOULD BE INTENDED TO BE A DA COMPLIANT. AND THEN OTHER POINTS OF PUBLIC ACCESS WOULD OF COURSE BE AT 1 79. AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER AT THE SOUTH END, UM, BY COVER CLIFF DRIVE. ANDY, WHAT WOULD BE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN EACH OF THOSE ACCESS. 'CAUSE I'M JUST THINKING NOW ABOUT EMERGENCY ACCESS IN CASE SOMEBODY NEEDS EMERGENCY SERVICES, AN AMBULANCE OR SUCH, HOW FAR THE AMBULANCE CREWS WOULD HAVE TO WALK DOWN AND THEN TRAVEL WITH THEIR, THEIR GURNEYS TO GET TO PEOPLE. I'LL CHECK THAT REAL QUICK AND SEE IF I CAN MAKE A QUICK APPROXIMATION. IT'S JUST, WELL PUT IT THIS WAY. JUST KEEP IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW. SURE. INSIGHT. WELL, I THINK MAYOR, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST HIGHLIGHT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT, AND THEN IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IS THE PRIORITY FOR THIS, WE CAN AGENDIZE A WHOLE OKAY. PLANNING WORK SESSION, WORKSHOP, DESIGN ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT TYPE OF THING. AND TRY TO, I GET IT. BUT YEAH, WE CAN GET YOUR, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE CAN CAPTURE THOSE SO THAT WE CAN BRING BACK, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWERS. I, I KIND OF DON'T WANT US TO DO IT OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEADS. NO, NO. YEAH, JUST IT'S, I PUT IT OUT THERE AND NOW YOU CAN THINK OF IT AND GET BACK TO ME IN TWO MONTHS. IT'S WHENEVER IT'S READY. WELL, I, I JUST MADE IT REAL QUICK ESTIMATION. THIS, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER MILE FROM HERE TO HERE. OKAY. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT HERE. AND OF COURSE A LITTLE MORE ON THE NORTH END. SO, BUT TO REITERATE FROM LAST NIGHT, THE YELLOW LINE IS WHERE THE CREEK WALK WOULD BE, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK FROM BEAR WALLOW. THAT'S CORRECT, KATHY. EXCEPT THE POINT, THE CONNECTION TO THE HUCKABEE. WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT, I'M JUST TRYING TO ORIENT WHERE, LIKE, WHAT PROPERTY THAT IS, WHERE THAT WOULD COME OUT. THAT'S THE VERY SOUTH END OF THAT. THE PARCELS THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT FOR DEVELOPMENT NOW MM-HMM . OFF OF ART BARN ROAD, JUST TO THE NORTH OF, LET'S SEE, IS THAT AMARA THERE? THAT'S AMARA. OKAY. YEAH. AND, AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS CONNECTION IS SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER IS CURRENTLY LOOKING INTO WITH THE FOREST SERVICE. WE HAVE NOT, UM, TALKED TO THE FOREST, OR, THIS IS JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A BRAND NEW CONCEPT THAT WE'RE JUST PUTTING OUT AT THIS MOMENT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO COUNSEL TO GET A DIRECTION TO START TO PURSUE THIS IN FY 26. UM, ALTHOUGH I SHOULD SAY MORE NEAR TERM, UH, PARCEL A HERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ACQUIRE AND START TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATIONS AND, UM, ACQUISITION RIGHT AWAY. SO, GO BACK TO WHAT KATHY WAS SAYING, THIS CONNECTION TO HUCKABEE, IS THAT FROM, UM, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, AMANTE CREEK SIDE? CORRECT. BUT THEY'RE TALKING TO THE FOREST SERVICE. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. AND IF WE SAID WE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO OCCUR, WHAT ROLE DO WE HAVE HERE? I, I THINK THE FOREST SERVICE WOULD LOOK TO THE CITY TO BE A PARTNER IN ANY SORT OF CONNECTION TO THE CREEK WALK. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE PART OF THAT. I THINK AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR, THEIR, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS, WE NEED TO TIE THIS ALL TOGETHER. SO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, P AND Z MM-HMM . KNOW WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR PRIORITY IS. AND, AND ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS VERY BRAND NEW AND CONCEPT, I'VE ALREADY SHARED IT WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO GET THEIR INPUT AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THEY CERTAINLY WANT THE A DA ASPECTS TO BE ACCOMMODATED AND [01:10:01] THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, ON YOUR RADAR, JUST WHEN WE HAVE THIS FUTURE DISCUSSION, HAVE PARKING IN YOUR MIND WHERE PEOPLE WHO WANNA ACCESS IS WHERE THEY COULD PARK AND NOT PARK ON SIDE STREETS, RIGHT. WHAT HAVE YOU. WE COULD DISCUSS THAT AT A FUTURE TIME. SURE. YEAH. IF I'M, YOU KNOW, REACTING TO THIS, I THINK IT'S TREMENDOUSLY EXCITING TO THINK ABOUT THAT. OF COURSE, THESE IDEAS HAVE BEEN BAND BANTERED AROUND FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE US, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY TREMENDOUSLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, JUST TOP OF MIND, THE TWO TRICKS REALLY ARE GONNA BE HOW TO PREVENT. WE HAD, WE HAD A GREAT, UH, SLIDE PRESENTED BY ALEX SCHLUTER YESTERDAY OF WHAT KIND OF DAMAGE CAN HAPPEN IN RIPARIAN AREAS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY, ARE GONNA HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE, AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEW, I'M JUST REITERATING WHAT YOU ALL KNOW AND WHAT WE ALL KNOW. BUT THAT'S A TRICK. AND MAYOR, YOU'RE RIGHT. PARKING IS GONNA BE A TRICK. THIS REALLY LOOKS LIKE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. MAYBE THERE'S A TRANSIT ELEMENT OF ACCESS TO THIS WHOLE CONCEPT THAT SORT OF GETS US AWAY FROM THE SLIDE. ROCKY PARKING ISSUES. THIS IS RIGHT. THE MOST CONGESTED AREA OF OUR TOWN, AND WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THAT'S DONE. AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOUR THOUGHTS WERE VICE MAYOR, BUT I'M TREMENDOUSLY EXCITED ABOUT HUCKABEE CONNECTION THERE. THAT WOULD JUST BE AMAZING KIND OF CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE FOREST SERVICE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD A LOT OF FOLKS TALK ABOUT MM-HMM . LAST NIGHT. SO I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. YEAH. TRAILS COORDINATOR. WELL, HE'S RIGHT. SO, SO IF I COULD, IF I COULD JUST, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR A SECOND. 'CAUSE I KNOW WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS SORT OF AS A PLANNING THING AS OPPOSED TO HAVING POTENTIALLY THIS SORT OF DETAILED, IN DEPTH CONVERSATION. SO, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO JUST THROW OUT THE IDEA THAT THIS HAS GOTTA BE LOOKED AT AS OUR OVERALL PATTERN OF HOW THINGS GET CONNECTED. UM, IN MULTIMODAL WORLDS, THIS CANNOT BE, UH, INDEPENDENT THING. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE IT'S AN INDEPENDENT THING, UM, WITH MAYBE A CONNECTION TO THE FOREST SERVICE. BUT THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY, I THINK, PART OF THIS BIGGER, BROADER CONVERSATION AROUND CIRCULATION THAT'S MULTIMODAL. UM, AND I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO, AT WHENEVER THAT POINT MIGHT BE, HAVE THAT SORT OF BIGGER, BROADER VISION AROUND HOW WE'RE GONNA GET AROUND EVERYWHERE IN OUR CITY BY BIKE OR NOT. UM, AND THIS IS JUST A PIECE OF THAT. SO, WHILE I THINK WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND, AND COMING FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, THE HOE FOR IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND AND WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO PROTECT THE HOE AND LET PEOPLE GO HIKING IN IT. THE HOE FOREST, BY THE WAY, IS A RAINFOREST, THE ONLY RAINFOREST IN NORTH AMERICA. SO YOU GUYS WILL FIGURE IT OUT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS PART OF THIS BIGGER CONVERSATION AROUND HOW DO WE GET AROUND IN OUR CITY AND, AND HOW DO WE PROTECT THE PIECES OF OUR CITY, INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AS PEOPLE ARE MOVING THROUGH THEM. AND, AND ACTUALLY TO THAT POINT, THAT'S PART OF WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THESE CONNECTORS COMING OFF. AND WHAT'S NOT SHOWN HERE IS THE FUTURE. WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS BEING A MOBILITY HUB UP HERE, AND HOW THAT WOULD BE CONNECTED DOWN INTO THIS SYSTEM AS WELL. SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE THOUGHTS AND BEING DISCUSSED, UM, BUT STILL EXTREMELY, UH, PRELIMINARY. ANOTHER THING THAT COMES INTO THIS DISCUSSION IS, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS RECENTLY COMPLETED THE MAJORITY OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NORTHBOUND PROJECT THAT RUNS BETWEEN JUST NORTH OF THE Y UP TO FOREST ROAD. THIS USED TO HAVE WHAT FOLKS REFERRED TO AS THE HISTORY WALK. MM-HMM . THIS IS BEING REBRANDED. UH, WE HAVE A, A GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, SOME OF OUR ARTIST, UH, STAFF AS WELL AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF, A WHOLE, UM, GROUP THAT'S WORKING ON REBRANDING THIS AS A VIEW WALK, UH, ALONG THE SAME CORRIDOR WHERE ALL THE POP OUTS THAT YOU SEE HERE OCCUR. THERE WILL BE INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE THAT, UM, WILL HAVE CERTAIN BRANDING TO IT. BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THAT WILL BE EXPANDED INTO THE WHOLE NETWORK OF MULTIMODAL FACILITIES [01:15:01] ACROSS THE CITY. AND THE FIRST EXPANSION OF THAT THAT'S BEEN THOUGHT OF IS TO THE CREEK WALK. WHAT THIS WILL BE IS SIGNS, UM, I SHOULD, I SHOULD MENTION ALSO NATE MYERS IS, IS PART OF THAT GROUP THAT'S HELPING DEVELOP THE, THE INFORMATION ON THESE, ON THESE SIGNS. BUT IT'S, IT'S HISTORY, IT'S CULTURE, IT'S GEOLOGY, IT'S ALL THIS KIND OF INFORMATION THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO THE USER EXPERIENCE OF THESE FACILITIES. AND THEY'LL ALL BE INTERCONNECTED WITHIN EACH OTHER AND BE RE THE IDEA IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEM OUT SEASONALLY SO THAT VISITORS TO THE AREA AND OUR RESIDENTS AS THEY USE THESE FACILITIES, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE PERIODICALLY. SO, ANDY, TO THE SOUTH OF THE CREEK WORK ON 1 79. DO YOU HAVE AN INTENTIONS OF TYING IN THE SHARED USE PATH ON 1 79 TO THE CREEK WALK? YES. SO EVEN FROM THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN COME DOWN CHAPEL ROAD, MAKE A RIGHT, TAKE THAT SHARED USE PATH THAT'S NOW THERE AND, AND THE BIKE TRAIL, THE, UH, THE ON ROAD, UH, BIKE PATH AND ACTUALLY ACCESSES AND YOU DON'T NEED TO DRIVE INTO THE CREEK WALK. CORRECT. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD SEGUE TO THE NEXT YEAH. SLIDE, RIGHT? I TRIED BECAUSE THAT NEXT ONE. YEAH. THANK YOU . UM, YOU KNOW, AS A HIGHLIGHT OF THE SHARED USE PATH SYSTEM, I BELIEVE IS THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, UNLESS WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A FUTURE PROJECT BEING POTENTIAL UPTOWN, UM, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES, THAT'S OH, CORRECT. THAT'S BEEN IN OUR, OUR PRIORITIES IN THE SIM PROGRAM FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UM, BUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES IN THE TRANSPORTATION MA MASTER PLAN, IT HAS NOT BEEN PRIORITIZED, IF YOU WILL. SO THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS AS WE MOVE INTO THIS NEXT, UH, FISCAL YEAR, IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START TO BRING UP IN PRIORITY. MAY I SPEAK PLEASE? UM, PERSONALLY, I WOULD RATHER US HAVE THAT AS PART OF A BROADER UPTOWN CFA. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO IN UPTOWN? HOW ARE WE GOING TO URBAN PLAN UPTOWN? AND THAT'S PART OF THAT URBAN PLANNING IN MY MIND IS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT PEDESTRIANS ACROSS THIS VERY BUSY ROAD THAT WE HAVE THAT GETS CONGESTED FOR OVER 50% OF THE PEOPLE ACCORDING TO KIMLEY HORNE ARE JUST DRIVING THROUGH UPTOWN TO GO INTO THE CANYON OR COMING BACK THROUGH THE CANYON. SO THAT CAN GET VERY CONGESTED AS WE KNOW. I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS THOUGH, AS THIS BROADER, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO IN UPTOWN? WHAT'S THE UPTOWN CFA GONNA BE LIKE? UM, I THANKS KATHY. UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, MELISSA. UM, AT THE SAME TOKEN, E EVEN NOT HAVING THE HISTORY OF KNOWING THAT THIS WAS A VERY, UH, HIGH INTENSITY TOPIC, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO AT LEAST BE COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT, HEY, HERE IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY COULD BE HIGHLY IMPACTFUL IN TERMS OF REDUCING FRICTION BY ELIMINATING AT GRADE. AND IN MANY CASES, ON DEMAND CROSSINGS. LIKE SETTING THE STAGE FOR EVEN CONSIDERING THAT AS PART OF AN UPTOWN CFA, LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST PROVOCATIVE IDEAS THAT IF IT WERE TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN, WE MIGHT AS WELL BE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW AND START SOCIALIZING THAT. AND JUST SEEING WHETHER THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANY REAL APPETITE ABOUT IT OR NOT. AND I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES THINK THERE'S PROBABLY NO APPETITE AND THERE MAY NOT BE. BUT I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO AT LEAST BRING IT UP, EDUCATE ON IT, AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. IF THEY SAY ABSOLUTELY NO, OKAY, WELL THEN THERE'S A TRADE OFF THERE, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA SAY NO TO SOMETHING. 'CAUSE YOU THINK MAYBE THAT DISNEY FIES UPTOWN, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, MAYBE IT ALSO COULD BE, UH, A SILVER BULLET TO SOME EXTENT. BUT I'M OKAY WITH WHETHER THAT HAPPENS OR DOESN'T. I JUST THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IT A GOOD, HONEST LOOK AND COMMUNICATE WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY AND LET THEM GIVE US THEIR INPUT ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. AND AGAIN, IT YES, ABSOLUTELY IT FITS INTO A CFA OH BOY. SO ACCORDING, LET ME, LET ME REBUT YOUR BUTT. . THE, THE THING ABOUT THE UPTOWN CFA IS THIS IS PART OF IT, AND THAT WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE OUT IS THAT WE BELIEVE THERE'S A BIGGER, BETTER STORY AROUND UPTOWN AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE UPTOWN [01:20:01] BOTH LIVABLE AND WONDERFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THE OLDEST SECTION, REALLY, OF OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT IT IS A TOURIST DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE WHO COME HERE AND, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO GO INTO UPTOWN. THIS IS PART OF THAT STORY, AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE NEED THAT URBAN PLAN AROUND THE WHOLE STORY. AND WE SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING THAT STORY TO PEOPLE AND GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK AND GETTING THEIR INPUT INTO WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THEIR PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT PIECE OF OUR COMMUNITY TIES INTO A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN WE START TO TALK ABOUT THE SHARED YOUTH PASS, WE TALK ABOUT CREEK WALK, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS. IT, IT'S, IF YOU, IF YOU TALK ABOUT ONE PIECE OF IT IN ISOLATION, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY MISS SORT OF HOW IT WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER. AND THAT STORY MAY BE MORE APPEALING THAN JUST, LET'S PUT A BRIDGE UP THERE. THAT, SO I, I JUST FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES IT, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THAT BROADER VISION AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE, AND HOW THAT FITS INTO A BROADER COMMUNITY THAN JUST TAKING ONE PIECE OF IT. UM, IT'S LIKE TALKING ABOUT ONE ROUNDABOUT. YOU WANNA CONSTRUCT WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WORKS WITH ALL THE OTHER PIECES TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S MY REBUT TO YOUR BUT CAN, AND MY REBUT OF THAT IS, IS HOW LONG DO YOU WANNA WAIT? BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE OUR ULTIMATE CHALLENGE IS, IS A LACK OF STAFFING IN COM DEV TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THE CFA, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS IT ON THE PECKING ORDER AS IT STANDS NOW? SO I, YOUR ARGUMENT IS WELL FOUNDED COUNSELOR. I DO NOT FIND ERROR IN IT. SO IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY, KATHY, AND THEN I HAVE TO OPINE. SO YES, REGARDING THE UP A POTENTIAL OVERPASS UPTOWN, I THINK THAT IT TIES INTO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME IN SOME WAYS, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A, A PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION SHARED USE PATHS. AND THIS TIES INTO, THERE'S A CORRELATION TO PAGE 63 OF THE SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH HAS A LIST OF THE COMPLETED SIM PROJECTS. AND MY, HOW I'M TYING THIS TOGETHER IS THAT TO ME, STARTING A CONVERSATION ON AN UPTOWN PEDESTRIAN OVERPASS IS PREMATURE BECAUSE THIS HAS A LIST OF COMPLETED SIM PROJECTS THAT IN MY MIND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION OF COMPLETED IS FOR THIS DOCUMENT, BECAUSE TO ME, THEY'RE NOT COMPLETED TO ME. THE CONSTRUCTION MAY BE COMPLETE, WHICH MIGHT MEET THE DEFINITION THAT YOU USED FOR THIS, BUT THERE AREN'T SHADE STRUCTURES, THERE AREN'T, UH, UH, BENCHES. THERE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T WATER REFILL STATIONS. THERE'S, I MEAN, COMPLETE IS NOT COMPLETE. SO WE'RE WOULD BE TAKING ON YET ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHILE WE'RE NOT FINISHING ONES THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY OR ALREADY CONSTRUCTED IN PROCESS IN DESIGN. UH, AND ALSO I DO THINK THAT BASED ON, UH, THE IMPRESSION I HAVE BASED ON ANY TIME THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST IS THAT THERE IS VERY LIMITED, I SHOULD SAY, LACK OF ENTHUSIASM FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT. SO DO WE, WOULD WE WANNA GET INTO HAVING A BIG CONVERSATION WHEN MY MIND, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER UNFINISHED BUSINESS THAT SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED OVER. AND I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR DUNN THAT IT CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE LOOKED AT IN ISOLATION BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A BIGGER PART. SO I THINK AGAIN, UH, PREMATURE IS THE WORD. I KEEP COMING BACK TO THAT, A CONVERSATION ON THAT, THAT I'M NOT READY FOR THAT AS A, SOMETHING FOR A PRIORITY IN THE NEXT BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION. RIGHT. GOD, ARE WE EVEN DOING CFAS ANYMORE? ? YES. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. VICE MAYOR. UH, RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME STAFFING CHALLENGES WITH PLANNING STAFF IN, UH, NOT THE, THE PLANNING STAFF WE HAVE ON BOARD ARE NOT HIGHLY CAPABLE. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEAN, WHAT I MEAN IS WE HAVE VACANT POSITIONS FOR PLANNERS. UM, AND SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A PRIORITY TO, UH, BE CHIPPING AWAY AT ALL OF THE CFAS ALL OF THE PLANNING ACTIONS THAT ARE IN THIS DOCUMENT. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, UM, AT A DEFICIT AT THE MOMENT WITH THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DO THOSE PLANNING PROCESSES, UM, ABSENT, YOU KNOW, GOING OUTSIDE OF THE ORGANIZATION TO HAVE SOMEONE COME HELP US. UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING, WE ARE ACTIVELY, UH, INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN TRYING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, THE BEST MATCH. UM, YEAH. OKAY. I, SO I WOULD JUST [01:25:01] LIKE TO ASK, YOU KNOW, WE WITH, ARE WE GOING TOO BROAD WITH MORE PROJECTS SIMILAR TO WHAT KATHY'S SAYING? AND, AND MELISSA, I, I GET WHAT I AGREE WITH YOU, IT SHOULD NOT BE IN A SILO, WHICH SHOULD BE BROADER FOR UPTOWN, BUT HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE WE GOING TO TACKLE ONE TIME WE HAVE THE WESTERN GATEWAY, CFA, THAT COULD AMOUNT TO A LOT OF MONEY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUDGET IN 26 OR EVEN 27 BEING OVERINFLATED BECAUSE FOR ANOTHER CAPITAL PROJECT FOR THAT LIKE THAT, I WOULD RATHER FINISH OR GET CLOSER TO FINISHING EVEN THE SHARED USE PATHS, OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE CAN, AS KATHY ELLA SAYS, LET'S GET SOME OF THESE THINGS DONE BEFORE WE TAKE ON SOMETHING NEW. I'M, I'M VERY, AND STAFF IS A BIG ISSUE FOR ME AS WELL. 'CAUSE I WANNA BRING MORE STAFF ON IT THAN WHAT WE, WELL, WHILE WE EVEN HAVE VACANT SPOTS. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. WELL, UH, MY RESPONSE TO THAT, UH, MAYOR, IS THAT, UM, AT THE END OF THIS RETREAT PROCESS, BASED ON ALL OF YOUR FEEDBACK INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, OF COURSE STAFF WILL GO BACK AND WORK UP WHAT ALL THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR THE BUDGET. AND YOU HAVE THAT WHOLE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO DETERMINE WHAT REALLY IS GONNA GO INTO THE BUDGET ONCE WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT ALL THOSE IMPACTS ARE AND WHAT WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT AROUND. SO, RIGHT. UM, BUT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE AS FAR AS EVEN JUST FOR THIS PROJECT WELL, YOU TO EVALUATE. RIGHT? I JUST DON'T KNOW, SEE IT VERY HIGH ON THE LIST. I WOULD RATHER SEE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE MOVE FORWARD THAT'S GONNA IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS GREATLY. SO I'D RATHER PUT OUR FUNDING INTO THAT AND OUR PLANNING INTO THAT FIRST BEFORE WE GO LOOK AT, I JUST HAVE ONE LITTLE CAVEAT TO THIS. SO AT THE FAR NORTH END WHERE YOU SEE THE CREEK WALK COME INTO 89 A, IT'S NOT FAR TO THE SOUTH WHERE THERE'S BEEN ONE, ONE OF THE CONTEMPLATED LOCATIONS FOR AN OVERPASS IS AT WAYSIDE CHAPEL. MM-HMM . YES. SO THE CONNECTION TO THE CREEK WALK IS ALREADY KIND OF PART OF THAT. AND, AND ONE THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO THAT THAT IS, HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE PAST IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY. SO IF THE CITY IS ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE PUBLIC PRIVATE CORP OVERPASS, THE OVERPASS, YOU THE PUBLIC, OKAY. PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH THE AMARA TURN LANE AND AND OTHER PROJECTS, WOULD COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT THE CITY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? IF THERE'S OUTSIDE FUNDING AND THEY'RE, UM, CONTRIBUTING TO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS TAKING THE LEAD ON DESIGN AND, AND PART OF THE EFFORT OF DEVELOPING THAT PROJECT? I, I WOULD BE, I WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT. I THINK WE NEED A BIG PLAN. MM-HMM . AND IT REALLY CONCERNS ME A LOT THAT WE DO THINGS ONE PROJECT AT A TIME. 'CAUSE HOW DOES IT ALL FIT TOGETHER? AND I, I HEAR WHAT, WHAT COUNSELOR FOLTZ SAID ABOUT HOW LONG DO WE WANNA WAIT THAT IS ON THIS HAND. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'VE GOT TO DO A MASTER PLAN AND WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO DO IT. AND IN THE MEANTIME, I DON'T WANNA PICK AWAY AT THIS PROJECT HERE, THIS PROJECT THERE. HOWEVER, ANOTHER FACTOR IS THAT, THAT THERE'S DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AND WHERE DOES IT ALL, WHERE DOES THAT FIT? BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENING NOW. PEOPLE ARE DOING, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLANNING RIGHT. AND REVIEWS. AND IT ALL HAS TO FIT TOGETHER. AND IT'S MESSY. IT'S MY NEW TERM, MESSY . YOU'VE USED IT. WELL NOW I, I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE WARNED ME DOWN ADEQUATELY THAT, OH, DID YOU OFF THE ISLAND? THAT, THAT THE, THAT THAT THE TIMING IS PROBABLY NOT RIGHT. AND, AND REALISTICALLY, EVEN IF YOU ALL WERE LIKE, HECK YEAH, LET'S DO IT RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE'D STILL HAVE A SOBERING CONVERSATION SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL, WHERE WELL, YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO TACKLE IT RELATIVE TO WHAT ELSE WE'RE GONNA SAY IS MORE IMPORTANT TO STAY FOCUSED ON. SO AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO SEE US TACKLE THIS ASAP, IT'S REAL, IT'S JUST PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. SO WAITING AND INCLUDING IT AS PART OF AN OVERALL CFA DISCUSSION. I, I, AGAIN, I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE WISDOM IN THAT. CAN I GET BACK ON THE ISLAND NOW, PLEASE? ONE FOOT PLEASE. SO YOUR NEXT COMMENTS ARE . SO, SO, SO I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEING SAID HERE IS THAT URBAN PLANNER OR PLANNERS, IT'S A PRETTY CRITICAL POSITION FOR OUR CITY. WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING [01:30:01] ALONG WITH PROJECTS AT A VERY RAPID RATE. WE, WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BE CONNECTED TO DO THE CIRCULAR, UH, CIRCULATION. WE WANT CREEK WALKS MORE OR LESS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS. UM, WE WANT ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, CA UM, COUNSELOR KINSELLA WAS BASICALLY SAYING THE HUMAN FACTORS AREN'T IN PLACE, RIGHT? WE, WE, WE BUILT THE PHYSICAL THING, RIGHT? THE, THE ACTUAL SHARED USE PATH. WE BUILT THE PHYSICAL THING, BUT WE ARE, WE'RE, WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED THE HUMAN FACTORS PIECES OF THAT. IT'S NOT JUST A PIECE OF DECOMPOSED GRANITE OR CONCRETE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE. IT'S MORE THAN THAT. AND SO WHAT WE, WE MISS THAT PIECE. AND THAT'S USUALLY AN URBAN DESIGNER OR AN URBAN PLANNER WHO HELPS BRING THOSE THINGS, UM, INTO LIFE ACROSS THE CITY. AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US, IF WE'RE DESIGNING A HORSE, LET'S DESIGN A HORSE IS NOT A CAMEL, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE JUST PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER. SO IT SEEMS TO ME, AND, AND YOU CAN ALL DISAGREE WITH ME ABOUT ME OFF THE ISLAND, BUT IT SEEMS THAT AN URBAN PLANNER OR PLANNERS IS CRITICAL FOR US MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PROJECTS. NOT THE ROAD ONES, BUT ALL THE ONES THAT CONNECT TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER. I, I AGREE. I VOTE TO KEEP YOU ON THE ISLAND. YEAH. I, I, I AGREE. WELL, YOU ARE OFF . UH, BUT I THINK WE'LL LEAVE IT TO ANNETTE AND HER PLANNING AND HER, UH, WHATEVER SHE NEEDS TO DO WITH HER STAFF, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CHANGES IN LONG RANGE PLANNING COMING. SO WE'LL LEAVE IT TO HER. BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU. IT SHOULD BE A, A PLAN. AND IF I MIGHT, UM, CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT HERE, UM, PART OF WHAT I HEARD LAST NIGHT IN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY REGARDING TRAILS COORDINATION PATHWAYS, ALL OF THAT. AND, UM, TALK TO ANDY JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, WHAT I HEARD FROM THAT COMMUNITY, UH, WAS ACTUALLY A NEED FOR A MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, NOT A TRAILS COORDINATOR. UM, TO ME THEY'RE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND AGAIN, IT'S INDICATES TO ME THAT THERE'S LIKE A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING NEED WITHIN THE STAFF, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN WORK. UM, SO THAT WAS GONNA BE A POTENTIAL QUESTION AT THIS POINT, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH ME BRINGING UP THAT TESTIMONY FROM LAST NIGHT AS TO WHETHER THERE'S INTEREST IN ANOTHER, UM, STAFF POSITION THAT IS FULFILLING A MORE SPECIFIC PLANNING ROLE THAN JUST A GENERAL PLANNING ROLE. SO, UM, OR SOMEHOW THERE'S A HYBRID. WE HAVE TRAIL COORDINATION AS PART OF A, THE, UH, ASSIGNMENT FOR OUR PARKING MANAGER, WHICH IS ONE THING TO COORDINATE WITH, UM, THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND THINGS. BUT THE WHOLE PLANNING OF THE SYSTEM AND THE CONNECTION POINTS AND THE BIGGER PICTURE STUFF IS ACTUALLY PLANNING WORK, NOT A COORDINATOR. SO ANYWAY, I JUST THROW THAT FEEDBACK OUT THERE AND JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT YOUR REACTIONS ARE TO THAT AND WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE. UH, SO CAN I ASK THEN, I'M INTRIGUED BY THE CONCEPT AND OF COURSE I WOULD BE, BUT , UM, WOULD THE COORDINATOR WORK THAT YOU KIND OF DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE INTERMODAL MULTIMODAL PLANNER WORK, WOULD THAT COME INTO THAT RESPONSIBILITY? UNDER THAT RESPONSIBILITY? WOULD YOU LEAVE TRAIL COORDINATION WITH PARKING OR WOULD YOU SOMEHOW MARRY IT WITH THIS MULTIMODAL? I THINK IT DEPENDS. I MEAN, I, I FIRST OFF, UM, IT WOULD TAKE TIME I THINK, TO BRING SOMEONE WITH THAT FULL SKILL SET ON BOARD. SO FULLY PLAN TO, IF WE COULD FIND ONE. YEAH, I FULLY PLAN TO USE, UH, MR L WAY'S EXPERTISE AND HIS, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR, UH, BEING A GOOD COORDINATOR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THROUGH OUR TRANSIT MANAGER. I MEAN, WE ARE COORDINATING WITH PEOPLE. IT'S JUST NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FULL-TIME DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, STAFF HOURS ONLY TO THAT TOPIC. WE HAVE IT BROKEN UP AMONGST A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. UM, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHAT PERSON WE COULD BRING ON BOARD WITH THAT PLANNER BACKGROUND ON IN TRANSPORTATION, UM, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SKILL SETS OF THE PERSON AND HOW WE COULD BEST UTILIZE EVERYBODY'S STRENGTHS AND MATCH THOSE UP. SO I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU FOR SURE RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS. AND ANDY, I LIKE TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION, NOT THAT I EXPECT YOUR ANSWER TO BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN YOUR BOSSES, BUT , YOU, YOU WERE HERE LAST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION AND YOUR, WE SAW YOUR THINKING CHANGING DURING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT POSITION. AND THEN I [01:35:01] THOUGHT THE FOLKS LAST NIGHT DID A WAY BETTER JOB THAN I DID LAST YEAR TALKING ABOUT THIS POSITION . AND I DID NOT COORDINATE THAT LAST NIGHT. THAT WAS AMAZING TO ME TO SEE THAT THEY SHOWED UP AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS MOTIVATED BY THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD HAD WITH THEM LAST YEAR AND, AND ONGOING, BUT THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE HERE YESTERDAY. I'M CURIOUS WHETHER YOU HEARD ANYTHING NEW, WHETHER YOUR THINKING CONTINUED TO EVOLVE FROM, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR? WELL, I, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NEW, BUT IT DEFINITELY SOLIDIFIED IN MY MIND SINCE THE TOPIC HAS COME UP. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK TO OTHER CITIES LIKE FLAGSTAFF AND PRESCOTT AND OTHERS THAT HAVE TRAIL COORDINATORS. AND ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM AND SEDONA IS THE MILES OF TRAIL THAT, THAT THEY HAVE URBAN TRAIL I'M TALKING ABOUT. UM, I I THINK ONCE OUR FULL PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED, THAT POSITION WILL BE DEFINITELY NEEDED. IS IT, IS IT CRITICAL TODAY? I THINK IT'S DEBATABLE, BUT AT WHAT POINT, BETWEEN TODAY AND THEN WILL THAT BECOME CRITICAL? AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT POINT THAT WILL BE, BUT IT, IT'S COMING AND I, I THINK, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR TO BE INCLUDED WITH THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, LANCE IS BRAND NEW WITH THE CITY. AND MY, MY MY THOUGHT RIGHT NOW IS HE'S GOT A LOT ON HIS PLATE AND ADDING SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WOULD, IS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE. BUT ONCE SOME OF THOSE BIG ITEMS ARE DONE, WILL HE HAVE TIME AT THAT POINT? AND IT IS POSSIBLE. UM, BUT AG BUT STILL LANCE DOESN'T HAVE A PLANNING DEGREE. HE, THAT'S NOT REALLY HIS AREA. I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE PULLING ON LANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND PARKING THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS OPERATING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING. AND THEN HAVING HIM COORDINATE THAT WITH TRANSIT AND MULTIMODAL OTHER MULTIMODAL AREAS. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THINGS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR LANCE A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT, UM, I, I DO SEE THE NEED THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. I JUST, THERE'S PART OF ME THAT SAYS, THAT'S NOT REALLY LANCE. AND, AND A YEAR AGO THAT WAS SOMETHING KAREN AND I STRUGGLED WITH WHEN WE WERE SAYING, OKAY, WELL WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO POSITIONS HERE, ULTIMATELY COUNCIL'S LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN MUSH THOSE TOGETHER INTO ONE. AND IT TOOK US A LOT OF DEBATE OVER WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED IS A, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A COORDINATOR. IT, IT'S NOT REALLY A PLANNER. SO TO, YOU KNOW, HE CAN GET PLANNING EFFORTS DONE, BUT HIM BEING THE PLANNER IN THAT EFFORT IS, IS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS. IT DID. ANDY, I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I FEEL LIKE I WENT ALL OVER THE PLACE. I THOUGHT YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB RESPONDING THAT AND NOT P**S YOUR BOSS OFF TOO . UM, HE WOULDN'T DO THAT. UH, I GUESS THE OTHER THING I WOULD POINT OUT JUST TIMING WISE IS THAT LET'S SAY THE COUNCIL SAID, YEAH, WE SEE A NEED FOR A PLANNER FOR MULTIMODAL, UM, THAT GOES INTO THE BUDGET FOR JULY ONE, THEN WE'RE RECRUITING AND WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS WHEN WE GET THEM ON. AND BY THE TIME, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY DOES GET ON, THAT COULD COINCIDE WITH THE TIMING OF WHEN MR. LENZ WAY HAS HIS, UH, WORKLOAD FREE UP TO TAKE ON MORE OF THE COORDINATION, I GUESS. SO I WOULDN'T WANT THE FOLKS THAT CAME TO PUBLIC COMMENT LAST NIGHT TO THINK THAT, UM, IF THE COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED AND WE WERE TO CREATE A POSITION FOR THIS EFFORT, THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM . LIKE THERE'S STILL GONNA BE A BIG TIME LAG IN THE AMOUNT OF WHEN SOME KIND OF DEDICATED EFFORT WOULD HAPPEN. AND IT COULD BE THAT BY THE TIME WE EVEN GOT TO THAT POINT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE MR. LS WAY WORK ON THESE THINGS. SO, UM, I GUESS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE TIMING AND ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, WHAT I HEARD FROM THEM LAST NIGHT WAS A DIFFERENT SKILLSET THAN I THINK [01:40:01] WHAT, UH, LANCE HAS MM-HMM . AND THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T SAY WHERE THIS POSITION SHOULD BE LOCATED, BUT I REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS TRACY WHO SAID THEY SHOULD WORK WITH THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF, NOT BE THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF. SO I THINK THAT IT WAS, IT'S NOT WELL DEFINED IN MY MIND EXACTLY WHAT, UH, WHAT AND WHERE, BUT KIND OF WISH STEVE WAS HERE AT THE MOMENT SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT. BUT WHEN, WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BE INTERESTED TO HEAR HIS VISION FOR WHAT HE THINKS. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MULTIMODAL PLANNER, THAT WOULD BE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE HAVE TO TIE SOME OF THIS TOGETHER AS WELL. YEAH. SO, SO HOW MANY PLANNING POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY WAITING TO BE FILLED? SO WE HAVE A SENIOR PLANNER, WHICH WAS THE ADDITIONAL STAFF AUTHORIZED BY THE COUNCIL FOR THIS URBAN DESIGN URBAN PLANNER. UM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER SENIOR PLANNER VACANCY COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO HOW MANY PLANNERS DO WE HAVE LEFT? SO THESE ARE ON THE, THIS IS ON THE LONG RANGE PLANNING SIDE. SO WE HAVE, UM, OUR PLANNING MANAGER AND THEN WE HAVE AN ENTRY LEVEL PLANNER CURRENTLY THAT ARE MANAGING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN. SO WE CALL THAT CURRENT PLANNING 'CAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SO THE PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THE UM, UM, STAFFING CHALLENGE IS MORE ON LONG RANGE PLANNING EFFORTS LIKE THESE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, BUT WE AREN'T ABLE, I MEAN RIGHT NOW OUR LONG RANGE PLANNER IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE WESTERN GATEWAY MASTER PLAN EFFORT. SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BUT FOR ME IT'D BE, UH, IT'D BE GOOD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE BACKLOG BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT STAFF RIGHT NOW FOR URBAN PLANNING OR LONG RANGE PLANNING OR GETTING THE VISION OF HOW WE WOULD CREATE OUR URBAN TRAILS OR WHATEVER IT IS. IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, UM, FOR ME IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE INTO BUDGET, DO I NEED A NEW POSITION OR DO I NEED TO JUST REDEFINE ONE OF THE EXISTING POSITIONS WHICH AREN'T FILLED TODAY? CORRECT. AND UM, SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHARED USE PATHWAYS, THERE'S BUILDING THEM AND THEN THERE'S DESIGNING THEM, INCLUDING THE HUMAN FACTORS AND THE CONNECTION TO FOREST SERVICE TRAILS, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH. RIGHT. EXCEPT GET YOU THERE. UM, TO ME THAT, THAT'S THAT VISION AROUND THE WHOLE COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING IN UPTOWN STILL WANNA GET OVER TO TRAILS AND GERDNER AND HOW IS THAT ALL GOING TO WORK? WE SO, SO AGAIN, NOT THAT PIECEMEAL, BUT THAT LONG RANGE VISION ABOUT HOW ALL THESE PATHS WILL CONNECT. WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE DANGEROUSNESS OF 89 A AND 1 79? 'CAUSE THOSE BIKE PATHS ARE PRETTY DANGEROUS. UH, WE'VE ALL SEEN PEOPLE DRIVING IN THEM, UM, ESPECIALLY THE 1 79 ONES. SO I, I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR, FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S OUR BACKLOG FOR THESE LONG RANGE PLANNING THINGS THAT WE HAVE UP THERE. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S THAT CFAS, IT'S ALL THAT STUFF. HOW MANY ARE THERE? IF WE COULD FILL THOSE TWO POSITIONS, ARE WE DEFICIT STILL ANOTHER HUMAN PERSON TO KIND OF COME IN BASED ON WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL BELIEVE WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY? AND SO RIGHT NOW I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WORKLOAD IS THAT'S PENDING. SO I KNOW THAT, UM, STEVE, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR CAME IN, THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE HIM SLATED TOMORROW. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA JUST TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS, UM, BACK WITH YOU TO GET READY FOR TOMORROW OR IF COUNSEL WANTS TO GO DOWN THAT PATH NOW OR WHY DON'T WE LEAVE IT FOR TOMORROW? AND WE HAVE A LOT TO GO ON TODAY. OKAY. AND SAY WE'RE GETTING BOGGED DOWN QUITE SOME TIME ON THIS ONE POINT. SO, WELL, IT IS A LARGE PORTION OF OUR BUDGET. UH, THE CIRCULATION GOAL IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED WITH IT TO, UM, RECONFIRM FIND OUT NEW, UM, GET A FEEL FOR YOU ALL WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH ALL OF THIS AND HERE ARE EXACTLY THIS CONVERSATION. SO I THINK IT'S BEEN SUPER WORTHWHILE. SO I'M, I WANNA JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I WANNA JUST KIND OF ADD SOME COLOR TO WHAT YOU HAD SAID. YOU HAD SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FOREST SERVICE BOUNDARY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION OVER THERE IN TERMS OF COORDINATING WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN [01:45:01] THE FOREST TRAIL SYSTEM IN OUR TRAIL SYSTEM. THERE'S CHALLENGES, WELL, LET ME FIRST STATE THAT MANY OF THE TRAILS IN THE FOREST SERVICE ARE IN THE CITY'S BOUNDARIES. WE CHOSE, WE CHOOSE TO LET THE FOREST SERVICE KIND OF DRIVE THE PROCESS. IT MIGHT BE BETTER DONE NOT BY US, BUT IN BETTER COORDINATION WITH THE SERVICE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR BOUNDARY. AND THEN THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE FOREST IMPACT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY. AND SO THERE IS SOME COORDINATION. SO IT'S NOT, I HOPE WE DON'T DEVELOP THE ATTITUDE THAT THE FOREST SERVICE STARTS HERE AND WE'RE NOT GONNA, UH, CONCERN OURSELVES. AND MAYBE YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT AND I APPRECIATE, I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD AND SO THAT'S WONDERFUL. I HEARD THAT AND SO I WANTED TO JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. I SIT ON THE GSRC. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS COORDINATION. CERTAINLY WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT DESTRUCTION OF THE FOREST BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT US. WE DON'T WANT MISUSE AT TRAILHEAD, BUT WE CAN ONLY PROVIDE PHYSICAL SERVICES LIKE BUILDING ANYTHING UP TO A CERTAIN POINT COORDINATING WITH THE FOREST SERVICE. AND THEY WOULD LOVE FOR US TO PAY TO HELP. YOU HEARD THAT LAST NIGHT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN OUR CITY HAS TO COME FIRST. UM, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY BEING SPENT IN OUR CITY ON THE PHYSICAL PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR HAS SAID WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING, UM, ON TRAFFIC FOR THE CAPITOL. WELL, IF I FOCUS ON, ON THAT, I'M NOT FOCUSING ON GETTING TO THE TRAILS. AND THAT'S GOTTA BE MY FIRST POINT IN MY OPINION IS HOW DO I GET PEOPLE SAFELY THROUGH THE CITY ANY WAY THEY CHOOSE TO TRAVEL TO GET TO THE TRAILS? THEN I CAN START TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE THINGS THAT I CAN DO TO HELP IMPROVE THE CONNECTION WITH THE SEA. SO I'M, I'M NOT SAYING DON'T COORDINATE WITH THE FOREST SERVICE. WE HAVE TO, WE LIVE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOREST. BUT I THINK THAT WHERE WE SPEND OUR MONEY AND HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT VERY CAREFULLY. 'CAUSE E EVEN THOUGH WE SEEM TO HAVE AN OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT IN OUR BUDGET, IT'S NOT THAT OUTRAGEOUS. UM, SO THAT'S GOOD. THANK, I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL. I HEARD SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THAT STATEMENT THAN I DID BEFORE, SO I APPRECIATE YOU CLEANING THAT UP. OKAY. CAN I MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION TOO? SO WE DO HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH THE FOREST SERVICE WHERE WE CONTRIBUTE FUNDING MM-HMM . TO TRAIL MAINTENANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. HOWEVER, WE HAVEN'T PUT A TON OF EFFORT INTO GIVING INPUT INTO WHAT WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE PUT ON. WE'VE SORT OF LET THEM EXACTLY DRIVE THAT DECISION MAKING. SO IF WE DID HAVE THAT POSITION, I I COULD SEE THAT WOULD BE AN AREA THAT THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN. YEP. SO WITH NOW 10 TO 10, I WAS HOPING TO TAKE A BREAK AT ON THE HOUR. UH, HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TWO? WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS A GREAT SEGUE INTO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND WE WERE GONNA BRING, UM, SANDY AND POSSIBLY LANCE, HE'S HERE, HE'S BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME, UM, INTO THIS CONVERSATION. PART OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS HERE IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL STEPS IN MULTIMODAL FACILITIES, WHAT IS THE PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE PROJECTS AND EACH KEY ASPECT OF HOW WE CONSIDER THAT. AND UH, SO IF WE HAVE THOSE FOLKS HERE, I CAN ACTUALLY MOVE BACK TO MY SEAT AND MAKE ROOM. THAT'S FINE. WHAT HAPPENED? WE NEED TO BACK UP ONE. HOW ARE WE DOING ON TIME? I THINK WE'RE DOING FINE. WE KIND OF, UH, THOUGHT WE WOULD GET THROUGH A, UM, FOUR GOAL AREAS EACH DAY. AND SO IF YOU GET THROUGH TWO BY LUNCH THAT'S GREAT. OR 1.75 . WE KNEW THIS WOULD BE A LONG PORTION. YEAH, THIS IS GOOD STUFF. I MEAN, YOU COULD TELL THE CONVERSATION OF WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY AND CIRCULATION AND HOW THIS IS ALL IMPLEMENTED AND GETTING IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THESE NEXT FISCAL YEARS ARE GONNA BE VERY EXCITING FOR THE CITY. UM, SANDY DEPUTY FROM THE WORK DIRECTOR, SHE'S REALLY THE ONE THAT'S HANDLING THE SHARED USE PATH AND MANAGING AND OVERSEEING THIS AND DELIVERING THESE IMPORTANT PROJECTS. YOU COULD SEE THE FIRST PORT WAS GETTING SHARED USE PATH AS PART OF OUR, AS OUR CITY MULTIMODAL CIRCULATION. AND NOW WE'RE DOING THE INFILLING LIKE YOU'VE ASKED AND WE CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT. SO SANDY, GOOD MORNING. UM, I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON THAT. UM, I KNOW THAT IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE DOING BITS AND PIECES, BUT WE'RE ON THESE SHARED USE PATHS, BUT WE'RE ALSO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF DEVELOPMENT AND, AND LIKE ANDY HAD MENTIONED [01:50:01] PARTNERING AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME OF THESE SHARED USE PATHS IN PLACE. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE MADE SUCH GREAT HEADWAY SINCE ANDY STARTED THIS PROJECT, SO, UM, WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO FILL SOME OF THOSE GAPS IN. UM, CURRENTLY ON OUR EXHIBIT WE SHOW THAT THE DRY CREEK FROM GREEN GO, UM, FROM NORTHERN SHADOWS DOWN TO GRINGO IS COMPLETE. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PAVING IT WITH STABILIZED DG THIS NEXT WEEK. UM, WE'RE MOVING AHEAD. I KNOW THAT DRY CREEK IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL HAS MENTIONED. WE'RE, UM, MOVING AHEAD ON THAT, UNLESS I HEAR SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY FROM COUNCIL THAT WE ANTICIPATE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON THAT FROM GRINGO DOWN TO WHITE BEAR. SO, UM, WE'RE ALSO MAKING HEADWAY ON THE STATE LAND CONNECTION FROM NOVO. WE, UM, HAVE PARTNERED WITH A-P-S-A-P-S NOW HAS THEIR EASEMENT THAT'S UNDERNEATH THEIR EXISTING POWER LINE . AND SO WE'RE MOVING AHEAD. WE'VE MET WITH CHASM, THE RADIO STATION, THE NEW OWNER THERE AND HE'S SUPER SUPPORTIVE. SO, UM, A LOT OF THESE LITTLE PIECES ARE MOVING AHEAD. AND, UM, REAL QUICK ON, ON DANTE, WE HAD MISSED A, UH, STATE GRANT, UM, JUST BY A BIT. THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ACCIDENTS. SO THE BAD NEWS IS, IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCIDENTS AND SO OUR BENEFIT COST RATIO DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD FOR THOSE GRANTS. BUT, UM, AS WE'VE BEEN OUT DOING OUTREACH, WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE JUMPED OUT OF THE WAY OF CARS AND HAVE ROLLED ANKLES AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF, BUT DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO FILE A REPORT. SO NOW WE HAVE SOME OF THAT DATA. SO WE'RE GOING BACK AFTER A GRANT. SO WE ANTICIPATE, UM, AND AGAIN, UNLESS I HEAR DIFFERENTLY FROM COUNSEL, I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THAT GRANT AND UM, THAT WOULD DELAY THAT PROJECT A LITTLE BIT. WE WOULDN'T HERE UNTIL JUNE, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE AWARDED THAT GRANT. UM, SO THAT'S THE STATUS ON THAT. BUT WE ARE MOVING AHEAD ON SHELBY. UM, WE'RE MOVING AHEAD ON COFFEE POT, GOT TO SEE, UM, WE'RE OUT THERE WALKING AND DOING THE ENGINEERING ON THAT ONE. AND ALSO BREWER ROAD. WE HAVE UM, SOME, UH, NA ADOT, UM, ASSISTANCE GRANT ON THAT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE A GRANT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FINANCIAL HELP ON SOME OF THESE SHARED USE PATHS AND, UM, WHILE WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THEM AHEAD. C CAN I, CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANDANTE, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UM, AND IT'S BEEN IN THE BUDGET APPROVED WITHOUT GRANT FUNDING. I THINK TO PUT THAT ON HOLD AND WAIT FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF FUNDING FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY OTHERS THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH, I THINK IS A BAD IDEA. I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND THAT'S MY OPINION. CAN, CAN WE SELF-FUND AND MOVE AND STILL APPLY FOR A GRANT LATER AND REIMBURSE OURSELVES AT SOME POINT? DOES THAT EVER WORK? ? NO. NO. RIGHT. YEAH. ANYTHING THAT'S SPENT , BUT I I, I'M, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I AGREE WITH YOU. WE BUDGETED IT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS IT. THEY WANT IT. THAT'S FINE. THEY'VE BEEN BEGGING FOR IT. MM-HMM . I WOULDN'T WAIT. YEAH, I AGREE. IT'S A SAFETY, IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD ON, ON DANTE. ESPECIALLY DURING SCHOOL BREAKS. UM, IN THE WEEKENDS. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE ON THAT ROAD 'CAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS. RIGHT. SO, UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE THERE NO OTHER PIECES HERE THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR A GRANT? SO THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH THE GRANT? JUST AS A DIFFERENT PIECE THAT, THAT AREA, UM, IS, UH, DIVERSE AND, UM, SO IT MEETS A LOT OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, THE GRANT. THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, IT'S CALLED A RAISE GRANT. SO, UM, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT 'CAUSE UH, WE DON'T HAVE A DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE WE DO THERE. I THINK THAT'S A STATEMENT OF A COMMUNITY WITHOUT COFFEE POT. THAT'S PRETTY DIVERSE. WE COULD TRY TO PURSUE THAT. I I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH. UH, WHEN LOOKING AT DRY CREEK ROAD, I SEE THIS GREEN LEG MM-HMM . THAT GOES DOWN TO 89 A AND THE GREEN LEGEND IS IN PROCESS. YES. I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 89 A YET, BUT THAT WAS ANOTHER PHASE. NO, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN ENGINEERING DESIGN, SO, UM, WE'VE GOT A, UM, WE'RE A PROBABLY 40% DESIGN FROM GRINGO DOWN TO WHITE BEAR. AND I KNOW THAT WE JUST HIRED A CONSULTANT TO TAKE IT ALL [01:55:01] THE WAY DOWN TO 89 A. I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT. IT'S GREAT. SO I, I'D LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. SOME OF IT'LL BE FOLLOW UP ON THAT SANDY AND, AND MANY OF MUST OF IT. MUCH OF IT MIGHT BE A HISTORY LESSON FOR ME. AND I THINK ONE OF, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP, I LOVE THIS MAP AND THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ON HERE THAT I DON'T LIKE, BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE MISSING TO ME. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTORS, NORTH 89, A RODEOS MISSING, MOUNTAIN SHADOWS IS MISSING. THOSE ARE THE MAJOR NORTH SOUTH SORT OF TRANSPORTATION QUARTERS AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY GOT LEFT OFF IN THE PAST. I'D LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AS I SEE OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS CHANGING IN THE CITY, UH, MOUNTAIN SHADOWS IS BECOMING BUSIER AND BUSIER. MM-HMM . 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE USING THAT TO GET AWAY FROM NOT GOING THROUGH WEST SEDONA, UH, COFFEE POT. I MEAN, UH, RODEO OF COURSE, IT'S VERY PERSONAL TO ME. I WALK UP AND DOWN THAT ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT JUST KIND OF ENDS MM-HMM . AND PUTS YOU RIGHT INTO TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE MM-HMM . AND SO I, I'M CURIOUS THE HISTORY ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTORS, SOUTH 89 A YEAH, THEY'RE HARDER MM-HMM . BUT THERE MAY BE SOME, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE HISTORY. AND AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR SOUTH 89 A IS ALSO VISIBLY MISSING FROM ME. AND I KNOW, I THINK THAT PART OF THAT HISTORY IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OUT OF THE BOX, ABOUT MAYBE BEING A ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT 'EM IN THE PAST THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST REFOCUS OUR EFFORTS AND THINK ABOUT IT AS A PATH NOT AS A ROAD. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CONVERSATION HAS LED. AND SO I, I'LL STOP THERE AND SEE IF YOU CAN GIMME SOME OF THAT HISTORY AND THEN I'LL ASK SOME MORE CAN YEAH. CAN I MAYBE START WITH THAT? YEAH. UM, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN OR NOT, I WOULD LOVE TO PULL UP THE GO PLAN MAP. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TWO DAYS WE HAD, I DON'T KNOW, OVER 150 SLIDES IN THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION. SO IT WAS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD EVER DREAM OF TO BE ABLE TO SHARE. UM, BUT ANYWAY, I I WON'T WAIT FOR THAT. LOOKING BACK TO THE GO PLAN TO, TO GO BACK TO RODEO FOR INSTANCE, THAT ACTUALLY IS IN THE GO PLAN. UM, I, AND THEN THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE NETWORK OF PROJECTS SOUTH OF 89 IN WEST SEDONA, AND, AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL GONNA BE DIFFICULT. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOW HANGING FRUIT SHELBY DRIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE PURSUING NOW THAT, THAT ARE NOT AS DIFFICULT AS SOME OF THESE OTHER CONNECTORS, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE GONNA BE ON NARROW STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE AVAILABLE. YEAH. UM, WE, WE DO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY MULTIMODAL WISE, NOT ONLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, OF THE HIGHWAY, BUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL. I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT THE, WHAT THE GO PLAN SHOWS IS IT DOES SHOW CONNECTIVITY IN THAT AREA AND, AND PROVIDING FACILITIES THERE THAT WILL CREATE A WHOLE NETWORK ACROSS THE CITY. AND YEAH. UM, THANKS ANDY. THAT, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE GO PLAN AND OKAY. AND, AND, UH, AND SO THOSE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED INITIALLY ARE LEADING UP TO THIS REACTION FROM ME IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP AND I THINK ABOUT COMPLETING THUNDER MOUNTAIN OVER TO DRY CREEK, IT'S REPLACING A SIDEWALK THAT EXISTS. MM-HMM . UH, COMING DOWN DRY CREEK, WE STOPPED AT GRINGO, BUT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN GRINGO TO THUNDER MOUNTAIN BECAUSE EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH IS A SIDEWALK THAT EXISTS. AND WHEN I LOOK AT VODI, EXCEPT FOR WHERE WE COME OUT OF THE STATE LAND OVER TOVO, RIGHT? THERE'S THAT CONNECTION THERE THAT DOESN'T EXIST, BUT THE REST OF VODI IS A SIDEWALK THAT ALREADY EXISTS. AND SO I AM INTERESTED IN THE THINKING THAT GOT US TO WHY WE'RE GONNA MAKE SIDEWALKS BETTER RATHER THAN DO THE HARDER THINGS THAT ARE MORE VALUABLE. AND I, I KNOW THEY'RE HARDER, BUT I WOULD RATHER SEE US FOCUS OUR RESOURCES ON THOSE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE MORE IMPACT THAN JUST WHAT IS ALMOST A BEAUTIFICATION PROCESS TO ME. WELL, I I'LL SAY THAT I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION NOW VERSUS WHERE WE WERE A FEW YEARS AGO. YEAH. 'CAUSE WHERE WE STARTED IS, IS, IS THERE ONE INCH OF SPACE IN THE CITY THAT WE COULD [02:00:01] POSSIBLY PUT A MULTIMODAL PATH, AND, AND, UH, AND SURVIVE IT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE 8.3 MILES TODAY. I AM VERY PROUD AND I'M GLAD. SO I DON'T WANNA PROLONG THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I'M JUST, I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M LIKING THE MOMENT RIGHT NOW. WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE NOW DEBATING THINGS LIKE THIS. AND, AND SO I THINK WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WHAT'S A HIGHER PRIORITY? IS THAT CONNECTING, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE THUNDER MOUNTAIN, UM, PIECE IN, IN THAT'S IN THUNDER MOUNTAIN RANCH, IS THAT LESS IMPORTANT THAN CREATING A NEW PATH? UM, ON, AS AN EXAMPLE, I, I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS ON THAT EAST END OF THE THUNDER, THUNDER, SANBORN, UM, REACH THAT YELLOW PART TO THE, TO THE EAST THERE, SHOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED BEFORE THE OTHER ONE? I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THERE IS NO PATH AT ALL ON THAT EAST END. UM, THERE'S SEVERAL CRITERIA ACTUALLY THAT THAT PARTICULAR CONNECTION WILL CONNECT YOU TO THE PARK. RIGHT? SO THAT'S A DESTINATION. IS THAT A KEY ELEMENT OF OUR PRIORITIZATION THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THE THUNDER MOUNTAIN RANCH SEGMENT THAT CONNECTS TWO, TWO ROUTES TOGETHER? RIGHT. AND, AND, AND THE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IN PRIORITIZING THERE IS, WHILE THERE IS A SIDEWALK, THERE IS NOT A MULTIMODAL PATH THAT, THAT IS A PEDESTRIAN FACILITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S A NARROW PEDESTRIAN FACILITY. SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BENEFIT OF THESE FACILITIES, THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE SPECTRUM OF USERSHIP, YOU KNOW, AND, AND A SEGMENT OF THAT USERSHIP IS BEING LEFT OUT BY A NARROW SIDEWALK WHILE YOU CAN RIDE IN THE STREET. IF YOU'RE A ROAD BIKER, YOU HAVE THAT AREA. BUT FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S NOT GONNA RIDE IN THE STREET, THEY SHOULDN'T BE RIDING A BICYCLE, FOR INSTANCE, OR A SCOOTER OR ANY OTHER MULTIMODAL, UM, YOU KNOW, THING ON, ON A NARROW SIDEWALK. RIGHT. UM, SO THERE, THERE ARE THOSE THINGS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO GRAPPLE WITH NOW MOVING FORWARD, IS WHERE DO THOSE THINGS FALL IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER IN, IN THE PRIORITIZATION OF THESE PROJECTS? AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NAIL DOWN AS WE MOVE FROM TODAY TO THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND, AND GETTING THAT FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL. YEAH. I MEAN, AS I HAVE OVER THE LAST YEAR, HAD TO WALK MORE THAN RIDE MY BIKE. YEAH. WHEN I GO DOWN THUNDER MOUNTAIN, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT STOPS WALKING WHERE THE SIDEWALK GETS NARROW. WE JUST PLOW ON TO DRY CREEK ROAD BECAUSE YOUR GOAL IS TO WALK AND ENJOY. AND I MIGHT NOT HAVE AS MUCH DATA AS YOU DO, SO I I, I ADMIT THAT. BUT, BUT, BUT I'M, I'M NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT WALKING IN, IN THAT SPECTRUM OF USERSHIP. RIGHT. IT'S, IT'S, UH, NOW WHILE PEOPLE MIGHT FORCE THEIR WAY IN THERE, I'M, I'M IMAGINING, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG MOTHER WITH A, A STROLLER FOR INSTANCE, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE VERSION OF A MULTIMODAL ITEM THAT THEY, THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT GONNA DIVE INTO THE STREET WITH THEIR STROLLER BECAUSE THE SIDEWALK IS NARROW. AND, AND I, AND I SEE THAT AND, AND RIGHT. YOU KNOW, HUMANS ARE PRETTY ADAPTABLE. AND ACTUALLY MY OBSERVATION IS WITH THE MULTI, I LOVE THE MULTIMODAL PASS. I'M NOT GONNA, I WANT US TO GO THERE, BUT MY OBSERVATION OF MULTIMODAL PASSES IS THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAVE WITH THE STREETS WHEN THEY GET WIDER BEHAVIOR CHANGES A LITTLE BIT AND IT ACTUALLY GETS A LITTLE WORSE. AND MY EXPERIENCE ON THAT SEGMENT OF THE NARROW TRAIL IS PEOPLE ARE KINDER AND GIVE WAY TO THE, THE MOTHER IN WITH A STROLLER AND THE BIKERS GO A LITTLE SLOWER AND CALL OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AHEAD BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THE MANEUVERING ROOM. SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK THAT IT'S NOT IDEAL, THE NARROW SIDEWALK. AND YES, I WANT TO HAVE IT A MULTIMODAL PATH IN THE, IN, IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD RATHER TAKE OUR TIME AND OUR EFFORT TO DO THINGS WHERE THERE'S NOTHING. AND WE'RE FORCING PEOPLE TO WALK ON THE ROADS. AND I THINK FORCING PEOPLE TO WALK ON THE ROADS IS ELIMINATING PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WALK DOWN RODEO TO THE SAFEWAY AND THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE THAT SEGMENT THAT'S NOT DONE IS PRETTY [02:05:01] SCARY. WELL, LET, LET ME JUST THROW THIS OUT FOR A, FOR A THOUGHT TO CONSIDER. SO THAT EAST END YELLOW CONNECTOR, UM, IMAGINE RIGHT NOW THE, THE VOLUME OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. SO THAT'S YOUR CONFLICT, RIGHT? BETWEEN WHATEVER MODE OF TRAVEL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC. NOW IMAGINE THE THUNDER MOUNTAIN RANCH AREA. THEY'RE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, I A LITTLE LOST SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SAY WHAT THE , SO SORRY, WHO ARE YOU ANDY? I'M LOST TO. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE THUNDER MOUNTAIN SANBORN. OKAY. UM, ROUTE RIGHT NOW YOU SAID THE EAST END. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD MOVED OVER. YEAH. SO JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT ROUTE, THERE'S THE YELLOW CONNECTOR ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THERE'S THE YELLOW CONNECTOR ON, ON THE WEST SIDE. BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT DONE AT THIS POINT. IT SAYS PLANNED. WHICH OF THOSE TWO DO YOU MOVE AHEAD OF THE OTHER? AND I'LL THROW ANOTHER COMPLICATION IN THERE. WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING FOR PAVING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ELEVATED THE ORIGINAL THUNDER MOUNTAIN SANBORN ONE MILE FIRST PROJECT THAT WE DID IN THIS WHOLE PROGRAM. ONE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT BOOSTED THAT UP WAS PAVING. WE ALSO HAD FLOOD CONTROL DOLLARS AND ET CETERA. WELL, THAT, THAT FUNDING'S COMING BACK AROUND. AND I THINK IT'S AN FY 29, IF I REMEMBER. AND THAT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR, UM, UH, ARTERIAL STREETS. SO WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY STREETS THAT THAT CAN BE USED ON. THAT'S THE SAME FUNDING THAT WE USED FOR THAT ORIGINAL ONE MILE, MILE SECTION. DO WE WANT TO COMBINE PRIORITIES AND TACKLE ONE PROJECT WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT TO BRING IN THE STEPS IMPROVEMENT ALONG WITH THE PAVING? AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FY 29 AND, AND THAT, I GET THAT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION THAN WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. BUT THOSE, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRIORITIZING THESE. CAN I JUMP IN ON THIS? SO ANDY, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS EXCITING THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION, RIGHT? SO CAN WE CREATE A MATRIX YES. WITH MULTIPLE SCORING FACTORS THAT HELP US ARRIVE AT THE PRIORITIZATION? BECAUSE I AGREE WITH PETE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT IF THERE IS A SUITABLE, USABLE, ALBEIT NARROW, UH, EXISTING SIDEWALK, IN SOME INSTANCES I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IN OTHER CASES, IT MAY NOT BE RIGHT. SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF WHERE I'M LIVING, I'M ON NOVO REGULARLY, AND THAT SIDEWALK IS IN PHENOMENAL CONDITION. THE ROAD IS WIDE AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC. SO FOR A BIKER, I MEAN, A BIKER'S NOT GONNA USE THAT SIDEWALK AND IT'S PERFECTLY SAFE THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, COMPARE THAT WITH THUNDER MOUNTAIN, WHERE IT'S A BUSIER ROAD, MAYBE NOT AS WIDE, THEN YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THAT SHOULD GET FINISHED BEFORE SURE. THE NODE PIECE. YEAH. RIGHT. AND ON NODE, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A PIECE, THERE IS NO SIDEWALK BETWEEN BRISTOL CONE AND PARTWAY UP ONTO THE HILTON PROPERTY. SO THERE IS A PIECE THERE THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT WHOLE NEVADA TO WHITE BEAR, TO DRY CREEK. I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. AND WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE ACTUAL BUDGETING, WE CAN BRING OUT THAT MATRIX AND SHOW HOW IT WORKS AND THAT SORT OF THING. CAN I GET BACK ON THE ISLAND NOW, KATHY? YES. THANK YOU. WELL, AND AND JUST TO, TO YOUR POINT, IT GETS EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE FROM BRISTOL CONE UP IS PRIVATE ROAD, IT'S NOT EVEN OUR ROAD. MM-HMM . RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE TOLD ME. BRISTOL CONE FROM BRISTOL CONE TO BRISTOL CONE TO ON THE BODE OH, OH, THE, THE HILTON SUMMIT. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD. YEAH. SO CAN I JUST THROW SOMETHING OUT THAT HAS A CHANGE OF TOPIC HERE? UM, SO WE HAVE ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET PEOPLE TO SOLDIERS PASS TRAILHEAD, UM, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT SOLDIERS PASS IS A REALLY BUSY STREET, GETS BUSIER EVERY TOURIST WEEKEND, UM, ESPECIALLY UP TO CARRUTH AND IT, AND PEOPLE GOING TO THE TRAILHEAD REALIZING THE CAMP PARK AND COMING BACK. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW, UM, UM, ON SOLDIERS' PASS. AND WHAT I HAVE NOTICED SINCE I LIVE OFF A SOLDIERS' PASS IS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT FINDING THE SUNRISE TRAIL. MM-HMM . THEY ARE WALKING IN THE ROAD OFTEN ON THE WRONG SIDE [02:10:01] OF THE ROAD. AND FOR SURE YOU HAVE BICYCLES GOING AND, AND SOMETIMES THEY TAKE UP THE WHOLE ROAD, RIGHT. THERE'LL BE TWO OR THREE OF THEM, AND THEN THEY JUST TAKE UP THE WHOLE, AND THEN I SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO PASS THEM BY GOING INTO THE OPPOSITE LANE INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. AND BECAUSE OF THE CURVES, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE A CYCLIST OR A HIKER OR ANOTHER CAR COMING. SO SOLDIERS PASS IS GETTING DANGEROUS AND WE'VE, WE'VE PUT STUFF THERE TO TRY AND GET PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD, BUT I SEE THAT BICYCLISTS WILL COME DOWN AND THEN THEY AREN'T USING THE SIDEWALK THAT'S ON THE ONE SIDE, AND THEN THEY CAN GET ONTO THE BEGINNING OF SUNRISE. AND THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT. THEY'RE NOT FINDING IT. I'VE SEEN HIKERS WHO ARE NOT FINDING IT, AND THEY LOOK AT, I SEE THEM WATCHING, LOOKING AT THE SIGN, AND THEN THEY CROSS THE ROAD AND WALK UP THE ROAD. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BUT I, I JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE. WE HAVE A HUMAN FACTORS PROBLEM, GOING ON THERE. YOU'VE DONE GREAT WORK, BUT PEOPLE ARE NOT USING IT, UM, CORRECTLY. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA DO. GOD LOVE YOU, BUT, UM, LET'S NOT HAVE ANY COLLISIONS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD. IT, IT HAD, IT, IT, IT DID GET BETTER FROM WHEN IT WAS BEFORE WE BUILT THE PATH. I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY YEAH. BUT IT IS A PROBLEM. AND THEN, YEAH, I DIDN'T MEAN TO LEAVE OUT AND I DIDN'T SAY THE REST OF SOLDIER PASS ROAD IS A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IN THE GO PLAN AND NOT SHOWN ON THE MAP. SO THERE'S LOTS THAT WE CAN DO, BUT YEAH, THERE STILL IS A, A PROBLEM. AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE NOW, EVEN IN THE AREA, THEY'RE JUST NOT FINDING THAT MM-HMM . IT'S, IT'S REALLY TRUE. AND WE PUT SOME SIGNS UP AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO HARD. YOU'RE LIKE, LOOK AT THE SIGN. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE HUGE AND OBSTRUCT, BUT HOW DO YOU, SO WE'RE WORKING ON MINES ON THE GROUND FOLLOW FOR A WHILE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING, I SEE THEM LOOKING AT THE SIGN AND THEN GOING INTO THE STREET. UM, AND SINCE WE WALK THAT WAY QUITE FREQUENTLY, WE'RE OFTEN SAYING, HEY, CAN WE HELP YOU? WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO GO? AND THEN GET THEM ONTO THE SUNRISE TRAIL. BUT, UM, YEAH, THEY SEE THOSE BOULDERS. YOU, YOU HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING. THEY THINK THAT'S A PATH. SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST NOT SAFE. UM, WHETHER YOU'RE A RESIDENT, AND BY THE WAY, I'VE SEEN RESIDENTS DOING THIS TOO. SO WHETHER YOU'RE A RESIDENT OR YOU'RE A TOURIST, THAT ROAD IS GETTING TOO BUSY NOW FOR US TO JUST SAY, IGNORE IT. THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT. ANYWAY, MY 2 CENTS, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, JUST QUICKLY COMPLETING SOME OF THESE, THE, THE URBAN, THE HUMAN FACTOR, SHADE STRUCTURES, BENCHES, WHERE IS THAT IN THE PRIORITIES? BECAUSE WE'VE LIKE, FINISHED SOMETHING MOVED TO THE NEXT PATH, BUT TO ME, WE HAD REALLY NOT JUST, LIKE KATHY SAID, WE'RE, IT'S NOT REALLY FINISHED. SO ARE WE WAITING FOR SOMETHING? WELL, WE HAVEN'T PUT EVERY SINGLE AMENITY INTO EACH PROJECT BECAUSE THE, THE FIRST PRIORITY OF THE PROJECT IS GETTING A FACILITY BUILT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA. RIGHT. SO THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO USE. UM, IT'S ALSO, UP UNTIL THIS POINT, BEEN A CASE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF FACILITIES TO PUT THESE SORTS OF AMENITIES INTO. UM, RECENTLY WE DID PUT BENCHES, TR UH, TRASH RECEPTACLES MAPPING. I THINK THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM . ALONG THE WHOLE THREE MILE STRETCH OF 1 79. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF EVERYTHING BUT SHADE THAT WE'VE PUT IN. UM, BUT I, I KIND OF SEE MAYBE AN FY 26 COMING BACK WITH A PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT, WHERE WE COME BACK AND PUT IN CERTAIN THINGS. THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN AN IDEAS FOR QUITE A WHILE ABOUT LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF KEY LOCATIONS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE SHADE, A KIOSK, UM, YOU KNOW, BENCHES WHERE YOU CAN GET THE RULES OF THE TRAIL AND DIFFERENT INFORMATION TO THE VISITOR OR THE USER OR THE RESIDENT WHO, WHOEVER THAT USER MIGHT BE. UM, SO THERE, THERE HAS BEEN THE CONCEPT OF DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. FOR A WHILE. IT JUST HADN'T, I THINK OUR ASSESSMENT HAD BEEN, UP UNTIL THIS POINT, IT HADN'T BEEN THE RIGHT TIME OTHER THAN 1 79. UM, SO I THINK IN 26 IT WOULD MAKE, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE A PROJECT OF THAT. I THINK SO TOO. AND YOU KNOW, I STAYED, UH, IN THE RODEO NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A FEW MONTHS OVER THE SUMMER. AND THAT SANBORN WAS VERY HEAVILY USED, BUT SOME, UH, OWNER, PROPERTY [02:15:01] OWNER PUT CHAIRS OUT FOR PEOPLE TO SIT IN ON THEIR OWN. AND THEY WERE SITTING IN THE . I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE TO HAVE, NOT TO RELY ON, ON, UH, RESIDENTS AND, AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THAT. BUT PEOPLE WERE SITTING IN THOSE CHAIRS PRETTY REGULARLY. BEAUTIFUL. IT IS HOT THERE, YOU KNOW, AFTER SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. SERIOUSLY, IT IS HOT. MM-HMM . IN THE SUMMER. AND, UH, AND PEOPLE ARE USING THOSE TRAILS. I MEAN THE, THE, THE, UM, SUP ALL DAY LONG MM-HMM . AND ARE THEY DESIGNED NOW FOR A PLACE TO PUT THE BENCHES? BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN 1 79, THEY HAD TO COME BACK BEFORE THEY PUT THE BENCHES DOWN AND DO BUMP OUTS TO PUT THE BENCHES. SO OTHERWISE THE BENCH WOULD BE BLOCKING THE SHARED USE PATH. MM-HMM . TO SOME DEGREE. WE, WE DIDN'T REALLY BUILD THE, THE, UM, I GUESS THE EXTENSION OF THE PATH INTO THESE AREAS AS WE WERE BUILDING IT. SO YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. UM, COULDN'T THAT BE PART OF THE PLANNING OF WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN, KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT A BENCH HERE IN TWO YEARS, BUT LET'S DO THE BUMP OUT NOW MM-HMM . SO THAT IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO IT AND THE CONCRETE WILL MATCH THE BROWN OR TAN. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT. BUT YOU DO WHAT YOU SEE AS BEST. BUT I, I DO. UM, EVERY PROJECT THAT WE LOOK AT THOUGH, I MEAN THUNDER MOUNTAIN, SANDBORN WITH THAT MILE, WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO DRY CREEK ROAD? RIGHT. WHY DIDN'T WE THIS, WHY DIDN'T WE THAT? NO, I GET IT. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE JUST ONE MORE HURDLE TO GET PAST. WHY DID YOU PUT THAT BENCH IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE? I GET THAT TOO NOW. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. MM-HMM . WHEN WE FIRST BUILT IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE, WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU PUTTING THE BENCH THERE? PUT IT IN FRONT OF SANDY'S HOUSE DOWN THE STREET. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT. I JUST THINK IT'S FUNNY GOING BACK IN TIME AND SANDY WOULD LIKE THAT, BUT THINKING ABOUT THE PUSHBACK WE HAD ON SANBORN FROM PEOPLE NOT WANTING IT AND NOW HOW HEAVILY USED IT IS MM-HMM . SIMILAR TO A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS WE DO. HOPEFULLY THE CREEK QUAL WOULD BE THE SAME WAY. RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE EXCITING. YEAH. I WANT JUST THROW OUT ONE, I SENSE WE'RE WINDING DOWN. I WANT TO THROW OUT ONE THING BEFORE WE MOVE ON. IS, UH, THAT, AND I'M SURE THAT YOU PROBABLY KNOW IT AND I HOPE THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TELL PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING POSSE GROUNDS PARK, IF THEY'RE HEADED NORTH ON 89 A INTO UPTOWN, THEY NEED TO GO OUT SOLDIER PASS ROAD AND NOT POSSE GROUND ROAD AND TRY AND TURN LEFT AT THAT INTERSECTION. THAT'S JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE, WE GET MORE PEOPLE IN PASTA GROUND PARK AND THEY JUST LEAVE PASTA GROUNDS PARK AND THEY GET DOWN TO THAT INTERSECTION AND THEY TRY TO TURN LEFT ON A BUSY ROAD AND MM-HMM . IT'S UGLY. YEAH. THE, THE INTERESTING THING WITH WITH THAT IS, DO WE KNOW, 'CAUSE I DON'T IF THAT'S LOCALS OR VISITORS, AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS IF YOU PUT IN A HARD FACILITY THERE TO RESTRICT LIKE A PORK CHOP THEN VISIT OR LOCALS, I MEAN, THEY'LL LEARN THAT, OKAY, I BETTER NOT GO THIS WAY 'CAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A TURN. I THINK MOST LOCALS KNOW THAT THEY, YOU, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T TRY TO TURN LEFT OUT OF THERE AND YOU SHOULDN'T TURN LEFT OUTTA SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS THAT GET DOWN THERE. I I, IT'S PROBABLY VISITORS, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW. YEAH. I, I SUSPECT THAT THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, WE KNOW TO GO DOWN MISSION TO MOUNTAIN SHADOW WHERE THERE'S A LIGHT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN LEFT. AND IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT DOWN SOLDIERS. SO I SUSPECT THOSE ARE MOSTLY GOING TO BE VISITORS WHO DO NOT REALIZE HOW HEAVY THE TRAFFIC CAN BE ON 89 A WHEN YOU WANT TO TURN LEFT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WANT TO TURN LEFT. AND THEN THE CHALLENGE BECOMES WITHIN POT GROUND PARK USE CARRUTH, UM, TO ACCESS 89 A AND THE VISITOR SAYS, WHAT'S CARRUTH? YEAH. RIGHT. SO I, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY PUT IT ON THE LIST OF THINGS TO LOOK AT, BUT THAT'S A HARD ONE TO SOLVE. SO MY FINAL COMMENT IS TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, UM, COUNSELOR KINSELLA SAID THAT IF WE DESIGN THIS WITH WHERE WE WOULD PUT WATER STATIONS, WHERE WE WOULD PUT SHADE STRUCTURES, WHERE WE WOULD PUT, THEN WHEN YOU GO AND YOU SOCIALIZE, YOU'RE GONNA SOCIALIZE THOSE ELEMENTS AS WELL AS YOU'RE PUTTING, PUTTING IT TOGETHER. UM, AND YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR PUSHBACK, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR PUSHBACK ON EVERYTHING NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NOW HAVE ENOUGH EXAMPLES IN OUR CITY WHERE YOU CAN SAY, DO YOU REMEMBER IF YOU'VE EVER GONE DOWN, YOU KNOW, THUNDER MOUNTAIN AND IT'S LIKE NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING IN THE SUMMER AND IT'S ALREADY A HUNDRED DEGREES AND DON'T YOU WISH YOU HAD SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU COULD SIT OR, I MEAN, WE HAVE ENOUGH EXAMPLES NOW WHERE YOU CAN SAY, PEOPLE GO, OH YEAH. RIGHT. SO I I I JUST FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, GOING BACK [02:20:01] TO MY, I DON'T KNOW, MY RANT ON HUMAN FACTORS, IF WE JUST DEVELOP ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AT ONE TIME, EVEN IF YOU DON'T BUILD IT YET, YOU'LL SOCIALIZE THE IDEA AND YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET THE COMMUNITY TO START, SAY, WHEN ARE WE GETTING OUR BENCH RIGHT OR WHEN ARE WE GETTING OUR SHADE STRUCTURE OR WHATEVER. AND THEY'LL HELP US DETERMINE WHAT SHOULD BE THE NEXT THING THAT WE DO. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO MAYOR, THANK YOU SANDY. I WANTED TO TAKE ONE 20 MINUTES AGO. IF YOU WANNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK NOW, BECAUSE WE'LL BE SCHEDULING LUNCH FOR 12. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. SO LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK NOW. WE'LL BE BACK AT, UM, 25 2. YOU WANT DO THAT? WE WANT TO GET ROBERT ON NON-LEGAL CURIE. YOU READY TO GO HERE? OH, WE JUST CAN'T SEE HIM ON HERE. WHAT'D YOU DO? CAN YOU HEAR US? I CERTAINLY CAN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? AWESOME. YES. YES. THEN WE DO WANT ME TO DRIVE THE POWERPOINT FOR YOU? UH, PLEASE. OKAY. JUST DRIVE IT SAFELY. . I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BETWEEN THE GUARDRAILS DAMN PLAY MODE. THERE WE GO. OKAY, ROBERT, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ON SLIDE 32. YES SIR. OKAY. AND AWAY WE GO. PUBLIC TRANSIT. UH, ROBERT, YOU'VE GOT THE HELM. HULK HAS WAITING FOR THE MAYORS NOT, BUT, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD. UM, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. MORNING, MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JOIN REMOTELY TODAY. UM, THE, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES ON PUBLIC TRANSIT. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ON THIS ONE. UM, THIS, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW AND I'M GONNA ASK BARBARA TO JUMP IN WHERE SHE CAN, SHE PREPARED THIS SLIDE AND I BELIEVE THE NEXT ONE IN CASE I START, UH, UH, STUMBLING HERE A LITTLE BIT. UM, SO ABOUT FOUR, YEAH, I DON'T NEED TO READ IT TO YOU. UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT AT ITS CURRENT STAGE IS A PRETTY SMALL, UH, PERCENTAGE OF THE ENTIRE SEND BUDGET. UM, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH 6.6 OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGETS ADDRESS THE CIRCULAR GOAL IN RELATED PUBLIC TRANSIT, MOST OF OUR CAPITAL EXPENSES WITH, UH, WITH TRANSIT, UH, TO DATE HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVE HAD FEDERAL GRANT DOLLARS IN THEM. SO THAT THAT HAS HELPED OFFSET OUR LOCAL SUBSIDY AS WE'VE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, SO HERE'S JUST QUICK RUNDOWN OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE EXPENSES, UH, FOR TRANSIT, UH, THE TRANSIT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FACILITY, UM, BUDGETING ABOUT 800,000 FOR OUR CURRENT FISCAL, UM, OF WHICH ABOUT 720,000 OF THAT IS FEDERALLY FUNDED. AGAIN, NEW BUSES FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL. UM, WE'VE HAD, UH, TWO OUT OF FIVE OF OUR NEW, UH, MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLES, UH, FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. UM, ON THE THIRD BULLET ITEM, THIS, THIS ONE IS, HAS SOME QUESTIONS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. THIS FISCAL IT WILL EXTEND INTO NEXT. UM, THIS REALLY HAS TO FOCUS ON 89 89 A WEST SEDONA, AND REALLY SOME OF THE OLDER LEGACY STOPS THAT WE'VE INHERITED FROM THE VERDE SHUTTLE WITH ADOT DESIGN. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE, LIKE MYSELF, BEEN DWELLING BEHIND THE VERDE SHUTTLE WHILE IT'S SERVING A STOP BECAUSE IT'S FORCED TO MAKE STREET STOPS. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING AN EVALUATION OF RIDERSHIP BY STOP. DO WE REALLY NEED THOSE STOPS? NUMBER ONE, IF SO, DOES IT MERIT THE INVESTMENT AND THE TIME TO, TO LOOK AT, UH, ENGINEERING TURNOUTS TO GET THE, TO GET THAT BUS OFF THE ROADWAY, UH, INSTEAD OF CONDUCTING A STREET STOP AND HAVING CARS QUEUED BEHIND IT, WHICH IF YOU THINK ABOUT IS KIND OF COW COUNTERINTUITIVE TO WHAT TRANSITS, UH, INTENTION WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THIS CASE, UH, WE'RE EXACERBATING THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM IN A HEAVILY TRAVELED CORRIDOR VERSUS HELPING IT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT PROJECT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN EVALUATION AND POTENTIALLY DESIGN PHASE FOR THIS FISCAL, AND THAT WILL PROBABLY EXTEND TO NEXT. UM, KURT CAN CERTAINLY JUMP IN IF YOU'D LIKE ON THIS NEXT ONE. THIS, THIS IS THE NORTH SR 1 79 [02:25:01] PARK AND RIDE IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S BEING MANAGED BY PUBLIC WORKS. UM, I THINK, UH, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN COMPLETE ON THAT. YES, YES. WE'RE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT. WE'RE JUST ADDING, UH, ADDITIONAL WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED. UM, AND WE'RE GOING BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING IN JANUARY, RIGHT? AND THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SR 1 79 PARKING RIDE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PASSENGER AMENITIES, PERMANENT RESTROOMS, UH, SHADE STRUCTURES, UM, AND, AND A SLIP LANE, UH, FOR THE BUS TO COME IN AND OUT. AND ALSO THERE'D BE, UH, LEVERAGING ALL OF THAT IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE, THE CAPACITY OF THAT, THAT PARK AND RIDE. UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE TURNING, PARTICULARLY DURING PEAK SEASON, WE'RE TURNING AWAY, UH, QUITE A FEW CARS THAT'S JUST TRANSFERRING THAT PROBLEM FURTHER DOWNSTREAM ON 1 79 STILL, UM, STILL FOLKS ARE GOING INTO, UH, CHAPEL, UH, TO TRY TO, TO HIKE THEIR WAY TO CATHEDRAL ROCK. WHAT, WORSE YET THEY'RE GOING TO LITTLE HORSE AND PARKING THERE AND HIKING ACROSS 1 79, THEN HIKING UP BACK OR BEYOND ON FOOT, WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. MM-HMM . SO IT'S JUST MOVING PROBLEMS DOWNSTREAM. SO WE'RE THINKING BY IMPROVING THE CAPACITY OF THAT LOT, THAT MAY HELP MITIGATE THAT ALONG WITH SOME OTHER TRANSIT CHANGES IN, IN THE WAY IN WHICH WE, WE MANAGE THE, THE LINE 15, WHICH SERVES CATHEDRAL ROCK AND, UH, LITTLE HORSE. HOLD ON. ROBERT ROBERT INTER HOLD ON. INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AT 79 WEST SR 79 A, THIS IS A VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY, AGAIN, I'LL INVITE KURT TO JUMP IN IF I'VE MISSTEP. THIS IS JUST STARTING TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE EGRESS ISSUES THAT WE WILL BE FACING AS WE DEVELOP THE TRANSIT MAINTENANCE OF OPERATIONS FACILITY IN THE COMING YEARS. AND I THINK THAT THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND AS A PLACEHOLDER TO START LOOKING AT SITE SELECTION AND INITIAL CONCEPT DESIGN. AND KURT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, FEEL FREE. NO, YOU COVERED IT. WE HAD A QUESTION FROM MAYOR JOBWELL. YES. VICE MAYOR HAS OH, VICE MAYOR. QUESTION FOR YOU. I DO. THANK YOU. UH, WHAT WOULD THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SR 1 79 PARK AND RIDE, WHAT, WHAT CAPACITY INCREASE WOULD THAT PROVIDE? OH, GOOD QUESTION. I BELIEVE WE'RE ADDING, UM, 35 SPACES, UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT. UM, SANDY, DO YOU REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY, UH, IN THE REVIEW IT'S CHANGED BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE A FIRE TURN AND SO ON, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AND SO WE'RE EXPANDING IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH AND WE'RE RE REMOVING A LITTLE ROUNDABOUT INSIDE THERE JUST TO TRY TO MAKE MORE EFFICIENCY. AND THEN A PART OF THAT TOO IS A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FOR THE PARK AND RIDE AND SEPARATING THE TRANSIT FROM THE PEDS AND SO ON. SO IT'S BETTER ACCESS, UM, TO GET IN THERE AND OUT. AND, AND THEN ALSO FOR THE TRANSIT TO REENTER 1 79, IT, UM, IT HOPEFULLY WILL MAKE IT SAFER AND BATHROOMS GREAT. THANK YOU. SHADE STRUCTURES, I, HOLD ON. I CAN DOVETAIL ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ALONG WITH THAT EFFORT. OBVIOUSLY WITH THE NEW MICRO TRANSIT CONNECT SERVICE, UH, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF EFFORT IN MARKETING THAT CONNECTION, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM SEDONA THROUGH WEST SEDONA, UPTOWN, THE HOTELS, THE RESIDENTS, HEY, YOU KNOW, LEAVE YOUR CAR AT YOUR RESIDENT, LEAVE YOUR CAR AT THE HOTEL. LET US TAKE YOU TO THE SR 79 PARK AND RIGHT, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME SUCCESS THERE. WE'RE SEEING MORE TRIPS, UH, BEING BOOKED TO THAT PARK AND RIDE FROM THE, UH, WITH THIS, THE NEW CONNECT SERVICE, BUT THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO. SO WE WANNA TACKLE IT ON THAT FRONT AS WELL TO DECREASE THE DEMAND ON THAT PARK AND RISE SIMULTANEOUSLY EXTENDING OR INCREASING THE PARKING CAPACITY. UH, ROBERT, HOLD ON ONE SEC. ONE MORE SECOND. COUNCILOR LTZ HAS A QUESTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE LAST ITEM UP THERE, THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OUT BY, UH, WASTE TREATMENT. I SEEM TO RECALL HAVING, UH, CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION ON THIS PROBABLY LAST YEAR, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK THEN IT WAS SORT OF FLOATED LIKE, HEY, THIS MIGHT BE A FIVE, $6 MILLION EXPENSE. AND I KNOW I'M, I THINK I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE SAYING, OKAY, DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO THAT? OR IS THAT A NICE TO HAVE? BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG NUMBER AND IN A WORLD OF PRIORITIES THAT FEELS LIKE THAT WOULD BE FAR FURTHER DOWN THE LIST. SO I ASSUME THAT [02:30:01] IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND, AND ARE WE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THAT? LIKE, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO HAVE TO SPEND THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO TURN AROUND AND SAY, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT. AND I MIGHT GET VOTED OFF THE ISLAND ON IT ANYWAYS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, I WANNA JUST BRING IT UP. NOW THIS, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM MY BACKGROUND, UM, WHEN THAT TRANSIT FACILITY IS FULLY DEVELOPED AND OPERATIONAL, AND WE ARE DEPLOYING BUSES THROUGHOUT SEDONA, POTENTIALLY AS WE EXPAND INTO THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK, OAK CREEK CANYON, WE'RE ASKING IN A FUTURE WORLD. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS FACILITIES BEING, UH, DEVELOPED WITH A PLANNING HORIZON OF 50 YEARS OR MORE OUT. WE ARE BEING ASKED, WE'LL BE ASKING COACH OPERATORS TO TAKE A 35 FOOT, 40 FOOT 20 TON COACH ACROSS THAT LEFT ACROSS AN UNPROTECTED LEFT TURN ON THAT CORRIDOR WITH LIMITED LINE OF SIGHT AND HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC. SO I WOULD SAY THIS WAS NOT A NICE TO HAVE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AT SOME POINT. UM, NOW HAVING SAID THAT, RIGHT NOW OUR OPERATION IS SMALL. OUR VEHICLES ARE SMALLER AND MORE AGILE. BUT WHEN I PUT A 50 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON ON THIS, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD THOSE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE, WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THIS AND START LOOKING AT IT NOW WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE WANT TO BRING IN, UM, SIGNIFICANT GRANT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH POTENTIALLY FEDERAL HIGHWAYS TO HELP WITH THIS. AND THEN A O CERTAINLY HAD, HAS, HAS SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. AND THIS AS WELL, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST MY 2 CENTS, BUT ONCE YOU BUILD A TRANSIT MAINTENANCE FACILITY, NOW YOU'RE BRINGING IN MORE EMPLOYEES ON TOP OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ALREADY HAVING TO NEGA ON TOP OF CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ALREADY HAVING TO, UM, NAVIGATE THAT, THAT CORRIDOR. YOU KNOW WHAT, WHERE I'M HEADING WITH THIS IS WHAT WE WILL HAVE IS AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH IS GONNA INCREASE THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT, NOT ONLY THE BUS TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO EMPLOYEE TRAFFIC. SO, YOU KNOW, CURB MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THIS FROM THIS ENGINEERING LENS. THIS TO ME IS SOLELY A SAFETY ISSUE AND, AND IT SHOULD REMAIN A PRIORITY IN MY OPINION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ROBERT. UM, WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR DUNN. IT'S, UM, MORE OF A COMMENT THAN IT IS A QUESTION. UM, THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION ALSO INVOLVES THE FOREST SERVICE BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT INTERSECTION AS A WAY OF GETTING PEOPLE OFF OF CLIFFHANGER AND REDUCING THE TRAFFIC ON 1 52 C. UM, BY, UH, TELLING PEOPLE TO, TO TAKE THEIR O HVS OVER TO CLIFFHANGER. THEY WOULD REDESIGN THE CLIFFHANGER ROAD TO USE WHATEVER THIS INTERSECTION IS TO BRING THEM UP POTENTIALLY TO THE CORNER OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY AND THEN GET THEM ONTO 5 25 UP THERE. SO THIS INTERSECTION ALSO MAY HAVE SOME INTEREST FROM, UM, THE FOREST SERVICE, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL, POTENTIALLY TO SORT OF HELP GET THIS DONE. SO MELISSA, IS THAT, THAT 5 2 5 89 A INTERSECTION IS A HORRIBLE INTERSECTION TOO. IT'S JUST TERRIBLE DANGEROUS. SO IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT YEAH, THEY, THEY DON'T WANT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OHVS, BUT IS THIS REALLY A POTENTIAL TO COMBINE MAYBE A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE INTO THE TRANSIT MAINTENANCE FACILITY OR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE ROAD COULDN'T BE USED FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE CITY DECIDES THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW THE ROAD TO BE USED FOR, BUT THE IDEA FROM THE, UM, GSRC ROUTE, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE THEIR TEAM, IT'S THE RATS TEAM, UM, IS TO TRY AND GET OHVS AWAY FROM ALL THE PEOPLE OVER ON 1 52 C BY ENCOURAGING THEM TO GO OUT TO CLIFFHANGER. BUT THERE'S NO WAY ONCE YOU'RE ON CLIFFHANGER TO DO ANYTHING BUT COME BACK OUT THE SAME WAY YOU WENT IN. SO THEY WOULD REROUTE ALL OF THAT TO GO WHEREVER THIS ROUTE IS, WHETHER IT'S UNDER THE ROAD OR WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH, SO THAT THEY CAN THEN CROSS OVER A LITTLE PIECE OF THAT ROAD AND GET OVER TO 5 25. SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S HOWEVER THE CITY PLANS TO ALLOW IT TO BE USED, THAT THAT COULD PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO 5, 2 5 ON WHATEVER VEHICLE. BUT THAT'S UP TO THE CITY TO DECIDE. I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR POTENTIALLY FOR GRANTS. IS THERE BEEN THOUGHT OF OF MAKING THE 5, 2 5 INTERSECTION, THE REAL INTERSECTION AND, AND ENTERING THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT FROM 5 2 5 SOMEWHERE [02:35:01] SO WE CAN KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE? THERE, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. I GUESS WHAT I WOULD JUST POINT OUT IS THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS, IS REALLY A STUDY THAT WOULD LOOK AT THE VARIOUS OPTIONS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST ONE WOULD BE. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE THE FOREST SERVICE. YEAH, THAT WAS PART OF THIS IS REACHING TO THE FOREST SERVICE BECAUSE WHATEVER WE DO FOR AN INTERSECTION, WE NEED TO GET MORE RIDE AWAY. OF COURSE, THIS IS WITH A 0.2, SO THERE'S LOTS OF STAKEHOLDERS WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. I JUST WANTED TO, UM, FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILOR DUNN'S COMMENT AND, AND THAT WAS SPOT ON. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE RED ROCK RANGER, UH, UH, THE DISTRICT RANGER, AND HE DEFINITELY WANTS A SEAT AT THE TABLE ON THIS DISCUSSION. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. OKAY. UM, IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS SLIDE, WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, ACTUALLY THAT SLIDE, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T SEE IT IN MY PACKET. AM I MISSING IT? THIS SLIDE MISSING A COUPLE OF THE, I SEE IT'S, IT'S, IT NEEDS TO BE, IT'S MISSING THE HEADINGS, SO WE NEED A CORRECTED VERSION OF THAT. YES, MA'AM. THE, UM, ORIGINAL POWERPOINT WENT OUT IN ADVANCE AND THEN ADDITI UM, STAFF ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS FOR TODAY. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, MAKE SURE THE PACKET'S UPDATED. I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, I'M STILL LEARNING THE ARIZONA RULES ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN UPDATE A COUNCIL PACKET. WE'LL JUST PUT IT IN THE PRESENTATION FOLDER, IF THAT'S OKAY. OR MATERIAL PRESENTATION MATERIALS FOLDER. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY, CONTINUE ON ROBERT. UH, CONTINUING, UM, BEFORE TO PUT UP SOME FRAMEWORK ON, ON THIS SLIDE, I WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE. SO THE SEDONA AREA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED, I BELIEVE, ADOPTED IN, UM, 2019 BY THE COUNCIL FI, OR NO, IT WAS FINALLY PUBLISHED IN 2020. I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE COUNCIL ADOPTED IT. JUST A REMINDER TO KIND OF SET THE TONE FOR THIS NEXT DISCUSSION THAT THAT WAS A 10 YEAR PLAN WITH FOUR PHASES. UM, REALLY WE DIDN'T BEGIN OPERATIONALIZING THAT PLAN TILL TILL 2022 WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE TRAILHEAD ROUTES. SO REALLY WE'RE THREE YEARS, JUST OVER THREE YEARS INTO A 10 YEAR PLAN. AND DURING THAT THREE YEARS, WE'VE LAUNCHED, UM, TRAILHEAD SERVICE TO FIVE OF THE SEVEN TRAILHEADS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE STIP. UH, ONE OF THE, THE TWO THAT WE HAVE NOT DEPLOYED TO ONE OF WHICH IS INACCESSIBLE, THAT'S, UM, THE, UM, JIM THOMPSON, UH, TRAILHEAD. IT IS SIMPLY INACCESSIBLE DUE TO THE CONDITION OF THE FOREST ROADWAY. UM, THE OTHER ONE IS HUCKABEE AND FOREST SERVICE HAS REQUESTED THAT A FOLD DEPOT BE DONE BEFORE WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEPLOY THERE. THERE'S A CONCERN OF, UH, THAT BEING A, A NESTING AREA, IF I RECALL, OF A, OF A BIRD SPECIES THAT'S ON THE ENDANGERED LIST ANYWAY, SO THEY HAVE THEIR REASONS. SO WHAT WE HAVE DEPLOYED FIVE OUTTA SEVEN, WE'D LIKE TO DO THOSE OTHER TWO AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS WE CAN OPERATIONALLY. UM, WE'VE ALSO DEPLOYED A ALMOST CITYWIDE, UM, DEMAND RESPONSE SERVICE, WHICH, UH, IS STILL IN ITS INFANCY. IT'S ONLY THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS OLD. UM, AND WE ARE BEGINNING, WE WE'RE SOON TO BEGIN THE, UH, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN PHASE OF THAT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FACILITY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS OF TODAY. ON OUR LAST SIM UPDATE ON NOVEMBER 13TH, I WENT INTO QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL ON SOME OF THE FUNDING CHALLENGES TO, TO CONTINUE TO MOVE OUR NEEDLE FORWARD, BUT I DON'T INTEND TO GET INTO THAT TODAY UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS FROM, FROM MORE QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL ON THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT, WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE CALLING IT FY 25 26. UH, BASICALLY THE FY 26 BUDGET IS, AND THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT, CONTINUE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STIP, IS THAT WE, WE CONDUCT THE UPTOWN AND WEST SEDONA TRANSIT FIXED ROUTE CIRCULAR STUDY. UM, I HAVE ABOUT 80% FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT STUDY. [02:40:01] UM, SITTING IN THE BANK, I WAS ABLE TO GET FTA TO GIVE US A TWO YEAR EXTENSION TO USE THAT MONEY. UH, THAT RFP IS READY TO GO, HAS NOT QUITE HIT THE STREET YET. UM, BUT THAT, THAT SHOULD BE HITTING THE STREET SOON. AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, BEFORE I GET INTO THE NEXT BULLETS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, YOU LIKE TO USE FEDERAL MONEY AND PLANNING, JUST LIKE THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FAILED TO MENTION WITH THE STEP THERE WAS FEDERAL MONEY IN THE, THE SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. YOU LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU START TO OPERATIONALLY OPERATIONALIZE THESE PLANS THAT CAN TEND TO BRING MORE FEDERAL MONEY INTO THE ACTUAL PURCHASE FOR CAPITAL, ET CETERA, UH, TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BRING THESE, THESE PLANS TO FRUITION. SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO GET ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH YOU FEDERALIZING A PROJECT EARLY ON SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BRING IN FEDERAL MONEY TO SEE IT THROUGH. UM, THIS PARTICULAR STUDY IS NUMBER ONE, IT IS CITED IN THE STIP, BUT IN MORE GENERAL TERMS AS AN UPTOWN FIXED ROUTE, UM, IT WAS PRETTY GENERAL. THE STIP WAS ABOUT A 50,000 FOOT VIEW PLANNING EFFORT. UM, SO THIS, THIS KIND OF DRILLS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND I HELD OFF ON DOING THIS STUDY BECAUSE I KNEW THE PARKING GARAGE WAS STILL A QUESTION MARK. UH, BUT WHEN IT NO LONGER BECAME A QUESTION MARK AND WE KNEW THAT THE CITY WOULD BE MOVING TO A CONSOLIDATED PARKING MODEL IN UPTOWN, THAT'S WHEN, UM, I GOT THE RFP READY FOR THIS STUDY BECAUSE THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HAVE A, HAVE THIS MULTIMODAL OR A SORT OF A TRANSIT CIRCULATOR THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE CONSOLIDATED PARKING MODEL, YOU KNOW, OR, OR SOME OF US CALL IT PARK ONCE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS, AND I'M NOT SAYING HOW THE STUDY WILL COME OUT, IT'S KIND OF WHAT'S RECOMMENDED. BUT MY CONCEPT WOULD BE THAT THIS, THIS CIRCULAR COULD SERVE UPTOWN TO LAAK AND HILLSIDE AND WHERE PEOPLE COULD PARK LUNCH AND ACCESS ALL THREE OF THOSE POINTS USING TRANSIT. UM, IN ADDITION TO, PART OF THAT STUDY WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY MODIFY THE VERDE SHUTTLE ROUTING. RIGHT NOW IT KIND OF MEANDERS, RIGHT? IT GOES ALL THE WAY INTO UPTOWN AND THEN HITS LOCK AND GOES OUT TO POCO DIABLO. AND THAT WAS ITS ORIGINAL ROUTE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE AS THE STUDY TAKES PLACE, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER A SHORT, WHAT WE CALL SHORT TURNING THE VERDE SHUTTLE AT THE PARKING GARAGE AND LET IT LET IT RETURN BACK TO, UH, COTTONWOOD. THAT WOULD SAVE US OPERATING MONEY ON THAT SIDE THAT WE COULD PUT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE CIRCULATOR ITSELF. AND IT WOULD JUST BE MORE EFFICIENT TRANSIT PLANNING AS FAR AS THAT CONNECTION. UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT MEANDER ALL, ALL, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH, UH, WEST SEDONA, UM, THAT AREA. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS STUDY IS THAT OUR, OUR NEW PARKING MANAGER, LANCE, BE ENGAGED IN THAT, UH, THAT STUDY AS A STAKEHOLDER, UH, BECAUSE THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE, ONCE OPERATIONALIZED WOULD SUPPORT ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, PARKING MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES THAT, THAT HE IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON OR IT WOULD BE INTENDED TO SUPPORT. SO HE DEFINITELY WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDER AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT. THE OTHER THING I'D BE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR IS STARTING TO GET AHEAD OF VEHICLE PROCUREMENT. WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, ONE BUS THAT'S BEEN AWARDED. UH, IT'S A MICRO TRANSIT BUS THERE, SIX BUS. UM, THE WAY VEHICLE PROCUREMENT WORKS, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE FEDERALLY FUNDED, IS THE PROCESS MOVES AT A SPEED THAT HAS YET TO BE MEASURED. UH, IT'S VERY SLOW. IT TAKES QUITE A WHILE. I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE SEEING THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE UNTIL WE'RE WELL INTO FY 26. UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A GRANT APPLICATION, UH, IN FY 26. AND AT FIRST BLUSH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE DO APPLY FOR TWO ADDITIONAL 25 FOOT FIXED ROUTE BUSES, UH, IN FY 26. WE'D SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, PROBABLY WOULD NOT SEE THOSE BUSES TILL LATE FY 27, POSSIBLY FY 20, EARLY FY 28. AND IN MY PLANNING BRAIN, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE TIME WE COULD START TO OPERATIONALIZE THE [02:45:01] UPTOWN CIRCULAR AND WE WOULD HAVE THE ROLLING STOCK TO DO IT. BUT THE BETTER NEWS IS WE POTENTIALLY, IF AWARDED COULD GET THE FTA TO PAY FOR 85% OF, OF THOSE NEW VEHICLES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME FROM AN OPERATION STANDPOINT FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT YEAR. UM, NEXT SLIDE. IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. OH, I HAVE A QUESTION. HOLD ON, ROBERT, WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS. MIDDAY, UH, PETE AND HOLLY. OH, OKAY. UH, ROBERT, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, 40, 46,000 FOR THE STUDY, IS THAT OUR 20% SHARE OR IS THE STUDY 46,000? I'M PROJECTING THE STUDY. IT SHOULD COME IN AT 46,000. THIS IS A PRETTY SIMPLE SUB STUDY. IT'S VERY, IT'S GOT A PRETTY SMALL SCALE TO IT. YEAH. I MIGHT BE OFF HERE OR THERE, BUT, UM, I, I JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS A VERY LARGE STUDY AT ALL. AND SO THEN SIM WANT, I DO WANT TO USE THAT PLANNING MONEY AND I DO WANT TO FEDERALIZE IT FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED. THEN SIMILARLY, THE 3,320 6,000 FOR TWO BUSES IS THE PRICE OF ROUGHLY THE PRICE OF THE BUSES IS NOT OUR 15% SHARE. CORRECT. THAT'S THE FULL COST. YEAH. THE, OUR UNDER THE 50 WE, UNDER THE 53, 39 GRAND FTA WE PUT PICK UP 85 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR. YEAH. HOLD ON. ROBERT, BARBARA, YOU, SO OUR, OUR PORTION OF THAT FOR THE ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN AWARDED IS $31,019. AND THEN THE OTHER GRANT THAT WOULD BE FOR TWO, OUR PORTION WOULD BE 48,900 EACH. WE, WE'VE BEEN AWARDED A GRANT FOR A 25 FOOT FIXED ROUTE BUS. DID YOU JUST SAY THAT? OH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE, THESE TWO GRANTS ON THE RIGHT. LIKE THEY'RE PAYING FOR 85%. SO OUR PORTION IS 30 1040 9,000. RIGHT. I I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY OUR SHARE WAS SOMETHING FOR THE ONE BUS AND NOW HERE'S ANOTHER TWO TWO, YEAH, FOR ONE MICRO TRANSIT. MICRO TRANSIT, NOT WE, WE, WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED A FIXED ROUTE 25 FOOT BUS YET. I DIDN'T THINK SO. THOSE ARE THE, THE ONES WE'VE APPLIED FOR. WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THAT. YEAH. THE PLAN WOULD BE TO APPLY FOR IT. SO THE O OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY HERE IS THAT I SCRATCHED MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW FAR WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS ROUTE WITHOUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE COST OF WHAT MIGHT BE HERE. AND IF, IF WE STARTED A FIXED ROUTE BUS SYSTEM WITH 2 25 FOOT BUSES SOME DATE IN THE FUTURE, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THE SERVICE LEVEL IS GONNA BE ANYTHING THAT THE LOCALS WILL THEN PINE TO AND GIVE US, YOU KNOW, SOME SUPPORT FOR CONTINUING DOWN THIS ROUTE. I, A FIXED ROUTE SERVICE HAS GOTTA BE, AND I'M REALLY THINKING ABOUT KIND OF WEST SEDONA OR SOUTH, YOU KNOW, CHAPEL AREA. I, I I, I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU SAID ROBERT, THAT YOU'RE KIND OF FOCUSED ON MAYBE AN UPTOWN CIRCULATOR, WHICH WOULD BE FINE WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. WE'RE GONNA GET SOME PUSHBACK ABOUT, THIS IS FOR TOURISTS ONLY AND WE'RE SPENDING LOTS OF MORE MONEY ABOUT NOTHING FOR RESIDENTS AND PART OF THE PART OF THE STUDY COUNSELOR'S GONNA BE PUBLIC SCOPING. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SCOPING DURING THE STEP TWO AND A HALF YEARS WORTH VERY BROAD PUBLIC SCOPING ON ALL ASPECTS OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN THE PUBLIC TRANSIT PLAN THAT'S DISCUSSED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE STEP. AND THAT AT THAT POINT THERE WAS EITHER 68 OR 70% WERE, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF, OF ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS. AND THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THEM. BUT WE'LL, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY WILL JUST VALIDATE THAT WITH ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S WHY YOU DO THESE STUDIES. AND FRANKLY 'CAUSE IT'S BEING FUNDED WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS, WE ACTUALLY ARE REQUIRED UNDER A NUMBER OF DIFFICULT, WE'RE REQUIRED ANYWAY TO GET PUBLIC, UH, INPUT, BUT WE HAVE TO HANDLE THAT PUBLIC INPUT VERY SPECIFICALLY WITH A FEDERAL PROCUREMENT LIKE THIS. SO YEAH, I HEAR THAT YOU GET TWO BUSES AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE BEING A LITTLE BIT PREGNANT AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING DOWN A PATH OF, OF THAT GETS REALLY DIFFICULT TO THINK ABOUT MAYBE SAYING, WE MADE A MISTAKE OR MAYBE WE DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. BUT THE ONE AREA OF OUR BUDGET WHERE I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY WORTHY OF US THINKING ABOUT IS A ROBUST TRANSIT SYSTEM. AND I'M REALLY WORRIED THAT IT'S TAKES MORE MONEY THAN GOD, MORE MONEY THAN SEDONA EVEN HAS. WELL, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, COUNSELOR, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO PROCURE 2 25 FOOT BUSES [02:50:01] BEFORE THE PLANNING EFFORT IS DONE, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT THE QUESTION IS. I HEAR YOU ASKING. WELL, WASN'T THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING COMES FIRST THE PLANNING, BUT THE PLANNING IS GONNA FOCUS ON UPTOWN CIRCULATOR, IT SAYS, AND WEST SEDONA TRANSIT FIXED ROUTE CIRCULAR STUDY. AND THEN FROM THAT, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT TELLS US, THEN WE COULD APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS TO OBTAIN THE, THE, THE EQUIPMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS WHAT I'M HEARING. YEAH. WE, WE, WE WOULD NEED THAT STUDY FOR THAT APPLICATION. YEAH. AND THE APPLICATION MAY SAY WE ONLY NEED ONE OR MAY SAY WE NEED THREE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US. OKAY. ROBERT, HOLD ON FOR ONE SECOND. I THINK, AND THIS, THIS ISN'T ALL JUST COMING FROM ME, THIS IS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, YEARS OF STUDY PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL WITH THE CITY. UM, AND, AND I KNOW THINGS CHANGE WITH THE EMERGING COMMUNITY NEEDS AND I THINK WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THE TRANSIT ASSISTANCE'S BEEN RESPONSIVE TO THAT THUS FAR AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO. UM, BUT THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO PUT THE BRAKES ON AND DO MORE STUDIES. I GUESS. ROBERT, WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE VICE MAYOR AND THEN I HAD SOMETHING TO ADD AFTER SHE'S DONE. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, ROBERT. ONE IS, UH, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY ON BULLET ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MODIFY VERDE SHUTTLE ROUTING, THAT THEY WOULD GO, THEY WOULD TURN AROUND AT THE GARAGE AND GO BACK TO COTTONWOOD. BUT YOU'RE NOT SAYING THEY WOULDN'T MAKE STOPS ALONG THE WAY, ARE YOU? NO, THEY'VE CONTINUE TO SERVE THE WEST. SEDONA STOPS IN AND OUT. YOU KNOW, THE, THE GENESIS OF THAT ORIGINAL ROUTE WAS REALLY TO GET PEOPLE FROM COTTONWOOD TO UPTOWN, WEST SEDONA AND INTO UPTOWN. YEAH. AND THEN THEY ADDED BLOCK AND THEN THEY ADD ADDED, UM, OD DIABLO. BUT IF ASSUMING THE CIRCULAR IS DEPLOYED, THEN WHY WOULD WE, WHY WOULD WE HAVE THAT ROUTE, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE SERVE THOSE AREAS WHERE, UM, THE CIRCULAR, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD DO THE JOB. SO IT TURNS IT INTO WHAT WE CALL A TWO SEAT RIDE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE VERDE SHUTTLE WAS SET UP ORIGINALLY AS A COMMUTER ROUTE TO GET WORKERS INTO WEST AND UPTOWN. AND SO OKAY. WHICH IS BEING UTILIZED, YOU KNOW, BY, BY WORKERS NOW. THAT'S HOW THEY, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE COMMUTING. I MIGHT ADD THAT WE'VE, WE'VE STRAIGHTENED OUT THE VERDE SHUTTLE A LITTLE BIT IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. WE'VE NOW GOT REGULAR HOURLY SERVICE. WE HAVE BIDIRECTIONAL SERVICE UPTOWN, IT DIDN'T USED TO. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES MONTH AFTER MONTH AND IT'S RIDERSHIP. UM, SO IT'S CONTINUING TO GROW. SO I WAS JUST GONNA ASK YOU THAT QUESTION. IF, IF IT'S RESULTED IN INCREASED RIDERSHIP, UH, MY SECOND QUESTION FOR YOU HAS TO DO WITH THE MOBILITY HUB. I DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN FY 25 26. IS THAT, IS THAT ON THE HORIZON AT ALL? KIND OF GOING BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION WE HAD ON, UH, NOVEMBER 13TH MM-HMM . WITH THE, THAT DETAILED SIM UPDATE. UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE MOBILITY HUB, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE A PLACEHOLDER, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A VERY INITIAL, UM, UM, INITIAL CONCEPT DESIGN I THINK COMPLETED ON IT. YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE KEEP IT, KEEP IT ON HOLD TILL WE COULD BUILD THIS SYSTEM OUT AND START BRINGING IN MORE REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY. AND THAT WOULD BE VOC, OAK CREEK CANYON, UM, AND POTENTIALLY CONNECTIONS FROM CAMP VERDE INTO OAK CREEK AND THAT ONE INTO SEDONA. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT PROJECT IS, IS JUST, UM, ON HOLD. YOU KNOW, THE, THE ANALOGY I USE IS WHY BUILD AN AIRPORT WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FULL AIRLINE YET? AND YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WE'D BE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES AT THIS POINT TO BUILD THE HUB UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME OF THOSE FUNDING CHALLENGES WE DISCUSSED BACK ON THE 13TH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE STATE. AND THAT'S GONNA TAKE TIME, THAT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS. AND I THINK YOU POINTED THAT OUT, VICE MAYOR. I KNOW, I DIDN'T. SO REALLY MY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, MY QUESTION WHERE I'M GOING IS, IS THAT REALLY EVER GONNA BE USED FOR A MOBILITY HUB OR SHOULD WE FREE IT UP THINKING ABOUT USING IT FOR SOME OTHER USE? WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE CERTAINLY A DECISION FOR THIS COUNCIL. BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, AGAIN, THE SEDONA AREA IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT CONTEMPLATED A, YOU KNOW, FULLY [02:55:01] DEPLOYED TRANSIT SYSTEM, WHICH WAS BRINGING IN REGIONAL ROUTES, YOU KNOW, FROM OAK CREEK DOC, AND THAT'S WHERE THE HUB DE CENTRAL HUB DESIGN, WHICH IS STANDARD TRANSIT PLANNING, YOU HAVE A CENTRAL HUB TO BRING IN ALL THOSE CONNECTING ROUTES. SO IF YOU WANNA ABANDON THE STEP AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY AND THEN FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER WAY TO PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, GROW THE SYSTEM THERE, THERE'S NOTHING SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT. BUT WE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, TO STICK WITH THE SEDONA AREA IMPLEMENTATION, TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH HAD A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN TIME AND TREASURY AND FRANKLY TALENT PUT THAT TOGETHER. AND I'VE SAID ALL ALONG IT IS, IT'S A SOLID PLAN. IT STILL IS, IT'S GOT FEDERAL DOLLARS IN IT, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS. UM, AND IT'S STILL RELEVANT. SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE A DECISION FOR THIS COUNCIL IF THEY WISH TO, YOU KNOW, SHELL THAT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. I GUESS IT'S JUST AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE VIABILITY, VALIDITY NEED FOR MM-HMM . UH, YOU KNOW, THAT FULL BLOWN SYSTEM, RIGHT? YEAH. THIS WAS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS WAS, UH, THE PLAN WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN GOING, UH, EVER SINCE. BUT IF THAT, IF IT'S COURSE CORRECTION THEN, UH, JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. ROBERT, HAVE YOU UH, I'M SORRY. , ARE YOU DONE? YEAH, I AM. THANK YOU. HAVE YOU BEEN ENGAGING WITH Y BY COUNTY AT ALL? I KNOW, UH, ANNETTE AND I WERE AT THAT MEETING, UH, YESTERDAY. Y UH, AND WE, I BROUGHT UP TO THE SUPERVISOR ABOUT, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE DEPUTY COUNTY MANAGER AND HIS CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT ARPA FUNDS AND THE POTENTIAL OF USING THOSE FUNDS TO DEVELOP, UH, A TRANSIT SERVICE IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK. I KIND OF KNEW GOING INTO THE MEETING, I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT ARPA FUNDS THAT YOU PROBABLY COULD NOT USE THOSE FUNDS TO DEVELOP A NEW SERVICE. UM, BUT THEY TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMED MY BELIEFS THAT WELL, NO, WE CAN'T USE THOSE FUNDS AND, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP YOU IN MIND IF WE COME UP WITH ANY FUNDING. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT'S WHERE THAT LEFT OFF. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I, I WAS CONCERNED WHEN YOU KEEP SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE SERVICE DOWN ONCE EVERY NINE TO THE VOC, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE IN THE VOC WOULD BE THRILLED TO HAVE. YEAH. BUT WE CAN'T FUND THAT ON OUR OWN, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. CAN'T DO IT ON, YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE STEP EVER INTENDED FOR THE CITY TO FUND THAT ON ITS OWN. WELL, I THINK THEY DID, BUT PARTNERSHIPS WITH, UH, WITH THE COUNTIES AND THE STATE AND, AND SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ARE PURSUING. BUT YEAH. UM, BACK TO COUNCILOR FURMAN'S POINT, OUR, YOU'RE, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TREASURY TO ROLL THIS PLAN OUT, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT COUNTY, FEDERAL AND STATE ASSISTANCE. AND THE STATE WAS CLEAR ON THAT, SO, OKAY. NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED , SO. ALRIGHT, ROBERT, MOVE ON. WE HAVE FOUR, UH, ALMOST 15 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE OUR BREAK. NEXT BREAK. UM, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THIS SLIDE. UM, AND THIS IS IN GENERAL, THIS IS, THIS IS THE KIND OF REITERATING WHAT I TALKED ABOUT BACK ON NOVEMBER 13TH, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THOSE ACTION ITEMS FOR THE COMING YEAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO, AND WE ARE CONTINUE TO PURSUE OTHER FEDERAL, STATE, AND COUNTY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK WE BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH INCREASE REGIONAL LOBBYING EFFORTS FOR COUNTY AND STATE TRANSIT ASSISTANCE FUNDING. I'LL BE ATTENDING A MEETING WITH NACOG AND ALL THE 53 11, LIKE WE ARE A 53 11 FT, A 53 11 RECIPIENT. SO I'LL BE ATTENDING THE MEETING WITH, LIKE I SAID, NACOG AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER SUB-RECIPIENTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS LOBBYING EFFORT AND WHAT WE COULD DO TO TRY TO MOVE THE NEEDLE. AND, YOU KNOW, AS VICE THE VICE MAYORS POINTED OUT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT TO MOVE THE STATE NEEDLE ON THAT. AND, AND WE KNOW THAT, WE KNOW THAT GOING INTO IT, BUT WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THAT DIALOGUE MOVING IF YOU WANT THIS, IF YOU WANT YOUR TRANSIT SYSTEM TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND THEN POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP OUR, KEEP THAT SEDONA KEEPS ITS DOOR OPEN TO ALTERNATIVE GOVERNANCE MODELS, WHICH COULD ALLOW FOR DIRECT ACCESS TO FEDERAL FUNDING. WHICH AGAIN, ON THE 13TH, I I SHOWED YOU HOW THAT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD WORK WITH SOME OF THOSE LARGER POOLS OF, UH, COMPETITIVE FUNDS THAT [03:00:01] ARE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, CERTAIN AREAS THAT EITHER THROUGH THEIR GOVERNANCE OF WHATEVER CAN REPRESENT THAT THEY'VE GOT OVER 50,000 PEOPLE THAT, UH, THE, THE SYSTEM WOULD SERVE. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THREE MAIN BULLET POINTS THAT I WILL BE PASSING ON UNLESS DIRECTED OTHERWISE BY THIS COUNCIL TO MY SUCCESSOR, UM, ALONG WITH A LOT OF THIS OTHER DETAIL THAT I'VE GONE INTO. UM, SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT IS MY LAST SLIDE. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYTHING ELSE, MADEAS? NOPE, WE'RE GOOD ROBERT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TODAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. HI LANCE. HELLO. SO BEFORE UM, THIS COMPONENT GETS STARTED, I WILL MENTION AGAIN THAT, AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO EACH OF YOU BEFORE THE MEETING, THAT UM, WE HAVE CORRECTED ONE OF THE SLIDES IN HERE, I BELIEVE. AND SO, AGAIN, APOLOGIES THAT IT WON'T BE A PERFECT MATCH TO WHAT WAS DISTRIBUTED IN YOUR PACKET, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE COMPLETED, UPDATED, UM, DOCUMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW THAT GETS PUBLISHED TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT PAPER OR WHOEVER TO RELY ON THE OLD SLIDES. WE NEED THEM TO HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. READY TO GO? YEAH. EVERYBODY KNOWS LANCE, WE DO UND WE DISCUSSED HIM QUITE EXTENSIVELY. YEP. HE'S BEEN VERY BUSY OF LEARNING THE CITY'S, UH, PROGRAM, HOW WE GET OUR AGENDA BILLS GOING AND THE WHOLE PROCESS. SO, UM, I GOT 10 AND A HALF WEEKS UNDER MY BELT ALREADY. WOW. ALRIGHT. BUT WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE , THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS FROM ROBERT SLIDES SHOWING WHERE THE, UH, PARKING MONEY IS 31% OVERALL CAPITAL 40, 43 0.6 OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGET ADDRESSING THE CIRCULATION GOAL. SO OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING GOES HAND IN HAND. MATTER OF FACT, ALL THE MULTIMODAL, UH, PIECES GO IN HAND TO HAND. QUICK LOOK AT THE, UH, THE GARAGE. ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? OKAY. NO, PLEASE. UM, THIS IS THE CORRECTED SLIDE FOR PARKING. UM, THE ANNUAL BUDGETS IN THIS CASE, AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT CAPITAL BUDGETS THAT SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T ROLL INTO THE NEXT YEAR. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WAS PUT ON HOLD AT ONE POINT. MM-HMM . SO THOSE BUDGETS, WHICH, WHOOPS. SORRY. WILL YOU BACK UP BECAUSE IT'S THE KIND YOU CAN TOUCH AND I NEED TO NOT TOUCH. SO WE CAN'T SUM THOSE ANNUAL BUDGETS AND GET THE 26 MILLION. NORMALLY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD DO, BUT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WAS PAUSED AT ONE POINT AND THEN, AND THEN RESTARTED, THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET DOESN'T MATCH THE ANNUAL BUDGETS. CAN YOU GO BACK? I WANT TO TAKE I DON'T HAVE THAT SLIDE. OH, I GET YOU. THEY HAVE THE BAD SLIDE THAT I DID. OKAY, THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. WAIT ONE MORE. OKAY. TAKE A, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE GET INTO THE FUN PIECES. UH, THE PARKING MANAGEMENT AND GUIDANCE SYSTEM. UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE OCCUPANCY OR THE GUIDANCE OR THE, UH, YEAH, THE OCCUPANCY SYSTEM IS, YOU CAN DO PUCKS, YOU CAN USE, UH, CAMERAS OR THERE'S AN OVERHEAD, UH, SENSOR ON EACH ONE OF THE, UH, STALLS THAT WOULD WORK IN THE GARAGE. BUT THEN YOU GET INTO THE, UH, SURFACE SPACES, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE, UH, CAMERA TECHNOLOGY AND SEEING HOW FEASIBLE IT IS. AND, AND, AND I KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO THEY WERE STILL WORKING OUT SOME BUGS FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN. THE THE CAMERA TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY UP THERE AND SHOULD DO A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR THE, UH, OCCUPANCY SYSTEM. THEN WE GO INTO THE PARKING FEE STUDY, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT OUR RATES SHOULD BE, WHAT SHOULD THE UPTOWN RATES BE, MAYBE RIGHT THERE ON, ON THE MAIN STREET VERSUS SOME OF THE, UH, PARKING LOTS THERE VERSUS WHAT THE GARAGE WILL BE CHARGING. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE I EVEN GOT HERE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AT LEAST LOOKED AT IT. UH, DEVELOPING THE RESIDENT PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM. [03:05:01] AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A HUGE TASK. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT VIRTUAL PERMITS. SO AS A, UH, AS A RESIDENT WOULD BE LOOKING AT, MAYBE SEND IN A, A UTILITY BILL TO LET US KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE A RESIDENT OR WE CAN LOOK IT UP ON THE GIS SYSTEM AND, AND SEE WHO THE RESIDENT IS. AND THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF USING LICENSE PLATE, UH, RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT SPOT. UM, I DON'T WANNA GET IN THAT WE GOTTA BE HANDING OUT PERMITS ALL THE TIME AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO THEY GO IN, THEY SIGN UP, WE APPROVE, WE CAN USE THE SAME TYPE OF SYSTEM FOR THE EMPLOYEE PARKING. UM, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR DESIGNATED AREAS WHEN THEY GO IN AND OUT. THE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION SYSTEM WILL LET US KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE COMPLIANT OR NOT. LANCE, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH, UH, I KNOW YOU SAID UTILITY BILLS, BUT VACATION RENTAL TECHNICALLY THE OWNER IS THE OWNER. YEAH. HE'LL HAVE UTILITY BILLS. HOW WOULD IT WORK WITH THEM FOR THEIR GUESTS? UM, DO THEY GET ONE PER PERMIT PER HOUSE OR, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T THINK WE GET VERY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE REALLY TOUGH ON IT RIGHT OFF THE BAT 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE SOME OF THAT OUT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S COMING FOR THE WEEK, ARE THEY EVEN GONNA KNOW TO APPLY FOR A RESIDENT PERMIT? PROBABLY NOT. YOU KNOW, SO, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO WORK OUT. IF WE, IF WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE AIRBNBS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY, THEY DO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A, A PERMIT THAT THEY HAND TO THEIR OCCUPANT. RIGHT. UM, I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO PLAY THROUGH ON THAT ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE PARKING PROGRAM. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA START REACHING OUT TO THE DIFFERENT, UH, BUSINESSES OUT THERE AND TALKING WITH THEM. I TALKED TO, OH GOD, WHAT'S THAT ONE OF THE GROUPS? IS IT THE HILL? HILLSIDE? YES. GROUP. I TALKED TO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THEM THE OTHER DAY ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THEIR NEEDS. AND I THINK YOU HEARD ROBERT EVEN TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THE CIRCULATOR GO DOWN TO THAT AREA. SO THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES. AGAIN, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT PARK ONCE AND IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO PARK THERE, THEN THEY WANTED TO GO UPTOWN, WE CAN USE THE BUS AND BACK DOWN SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO HAVE THAT TRAFFIC. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE LAST ONE, ONCE WE GET THE PARKING GARAGE IN PLACE AND GET EVERYTHING GOING, THEN WE'LL EVALUATE THE, UH, PARKING CONSOLIDATION. LANCE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY. UM, HE WENT TO A CONFERENCE IN CALIFORNIA WITH VENDORS, UH, ABOUT ALL OF THE PARKING, UM, TECHNOLOGY. SO BEST AVAILABLE DENIMS DEMONSTRATED TECHNOLOGY IS WHAT HE'S BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON, AND THAT'S TO TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF THE PARKING GARAGE SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT AS IT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED. LANCE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING BACK TO THE PARKING FEE STUDY. IT WAS ALWAYS, UH, DESIRED THAT FOR ON MAIN STREET ON 89 A THAT'D BE A HIGHER RATE THAN TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MOVE THEIR CARS QUICKER. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE RATES, AND IT WOULD, THE RATES WOULD FLUCTUATE, YOU KNOW, BY THE HOUR AND THAT WAS NEVER DONE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS. WHAT IS YOUR MINDSET ON THAT? EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID MR. MAYOR WAS TO HAVE IT AT A HIGHER RATE AND IT COULD HAVE DYNAMIC PRICING SO THAT MAYBE WHEN IT GETS TO 60, 70%, THE HOURLY RATE GOES UP FROM THERE. ONCE YOU GET TO ABOUT 80, 90%, IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHEAP TO PARK THERE. UM, ALSO RESTRICTING HOW LONG PEOPLE CAN PARK THERE. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY THERE ALL DAY. MM-HMM . UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S, IS IT TWO HOURS? TWO HOURS HOUR, TWO HOUR PARKING? I THINK SO. I THINK IT'S RESTRICTED TWO HOURS RIGHT NOW. WHICH AREA? THE 89 A UPTOWN ON STREET PARKING. WHEN YOU SENT ME THAT UPTOWN TEXT THAT SAID, HEY, I COULDN'T RENEW IT. OH RIGHT. YEAH. SO, SO, UH, UH, WHAT, I KNOW YOU HAVE A THOUSAND THINGS ON YOUR, YOUR PLATE. WHERE ARE YOU AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE TO START MAKING SOME CHANGES, UH, IN THAT PROGRAM? TO BRING THAT TO WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN SIX YEARS. I WILL BE COMING TO THE JANUARY 28TH BUDGET MEETING AND, AND WE'LL COUNCIL MEETING. YEAH, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. OKAY. THERE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE. ANY QUE MORE QUESTIONS? I LOVE THIS PICTURE BECAUSE THIS IS SHOWING WHAT, WHAT A CAMERA SYSTEM CAN DO. THEY CAN ACTUALLY SIT THERE AND, UH, DECIDE WHETHER A CAR'S IN IT, CAR'S OUT. WE CAN USE RFP, NOT RFP LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UH, THE LOT SO THAT WE CAN TELL WHETHER SOMEBODY'S PAID OR NOT. UM, IT'LL TAKE A LOT OF THE GUESSWORK OUT OF SENDING ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE, ASSUMING THAT WORKS ON MOTORCYCLES. OTHER YES. HAS IT WORK. YOU CAN, YOU CAN EVEN, YOU CAN EVEN GET [03:10:01] IT DOWN TO WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY'S GOOD ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN USE PART OF IT FOR SECURITY. THAT COULD GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USING IT FOR THAT TYPE OF SYSTEM, PART OF IT FOR PART PARKING, BUT ALSO IDENTIFYING WHETHER IT'S A PEDESTRIAN, A MOTORCYCLE, UH, A PICKUP AND TRAILER THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT IN THERE. SO IT CAN REALLY TELL YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION. LANCE, DOES IT HAVE TRIANGULATION WITH TWO DIFFERENT CAMERAS? 'CAUSE IF YOU GET SOME STATES, THEIR CARS, LIKE ARIZONA DOESN'T HAVE A FRONT PLATE, RIGHT? NO. YOU DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAMERA IN EACH LOT. UM, RIGHT NOW I'M WORKING ON HOW MANY CAMERAS NEED TO GO INTO THE PARKING GARAGE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING. AND AT THE BEGINNING, THE PARKING GARAGE, INSTEAD OF PUTTING GATES IN LICENSE PLATE, UH, RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY TO SAY, YES, THIS VEHICLE'S ENTERED, HAVE THEY PAID VERSUS THE ONES THAT WILL BE INSIDE THE LOT OR INSIDE THE GARAGE THAT ARE JUST OCCUPANCY CAMERAS. BUT CAN ALL OF 'EM WILL BE USED FOR SECURITY? SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A GATE, BUT SOMEBODY WOULD NEED TO COME OUT AND PAY. HOW WOULD THEY KNOW NOT TO JUST DRIVE BY? WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A MULTI SPACE KIOSK OUT THERE AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE QR CODE THAT SAYS, HEY, PAY ON YOUR SMARTPHONE. YEAH. AND THEN WE ARE WORKING WITH MCCARTHY. THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET A LOT OF THIS DIALED IN BY, UH, MID-JANUARY. AND PART OF THAT TOO IS SECURITY GATE. SO IF THERE WAS AN EVACUATION, THERE WAS PERHAPS A POLICE ISSUE. UM, WE CAN REMOTELY HIT THE GATES AND IT CAN CLOSE THE ENTRANCE. BUT THAT'S STILL BEING IN PROCESS. WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A GATING SYSTEM DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU NOTICE IN MOST OF THE PARKING STRUCTURES WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE WOODEN PLANK ON, ON THE MACHINE. WE'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY ROLLING GATES THAT, UH, CAN GO UP IN ABOUT 1.5 SECONDS AS LONG AS THERE'S NOBODY THERE. IT'S SCARY. EXACTLY RIGHT. I, I HAD 18 OF 'EM AT GEORGIA TECH. BEST THING I EVER DID, BUT MINE WAS BECAUSE OF THEFT. RIGHT. LANCE IS TOO EARLY TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR OPINION ON, UH, EMPLOYEE PARKING AND A PLAN FOR THAT AT THE PARKING GARAGE. UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SHOULD IT BE LIKE HALF OF THE UPPER LEVEL OR, OR WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT? UM, WE'RE STILL OUT THERE GUESSING. OKAY. I, AND ANDY, I'LL LET YOU, YOU GET ON, BUT I WAS, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THAT, BUT THERE IS NO DESIGNATED EMPLOYEE SPACES IN THE GARAGE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WAS. IT WAS TOO EARLY FOR YOU DECIDE. SO THERE'S ALSO NOT A RESTRICTION. SO IF AN EMPLOYEE CHOSE TO GO INTO THE GARAGE, THEY'LL PAY LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. NO, I GET THAT. BUT THERE'S NO SPACE SET ASIDE FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING. OKAY. THE CONVERSATION I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE REMOTE PARKING THAT ISN'T REALLY CLOSE PROXIMAL, WE WOULD MAKE FREE FOR EMPLOYEES AND WE WOULD BE OUTREACHING WITH BUSINESSES FOR THEM TO PARK THERE ALL DAY AND THEN WALK IN OR CIRCULATIONS. OKAY. WELL WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT PLAN. I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE STILL NEED TO DISCUSS. RIGHT. WELL, DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD, UH, VARIOUS, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE SUBSIDIZING EMPLOYEE PARKING OR NOT. WHO'S LEASING THOSE LOTS? YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN LIKE, SAY DEFINITIVELY. WELL, THAT'S WHY MY QUESTION WAS, IS IT THE RIGHT TIME TO DISCUSS IT NOW? I THINK WE NEED TO BRING ALL THIS BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH YEAH. WHAT THE PROPOSAL WILL BE SO THAT YOU CAN REACT TO THAT AND IT JUST ACCORDINGLY BASED ON WHAT YOU HEAR THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO YEAH. AND I WANTED LOOK AT THE HIGH LEVEL JUST YEAH. IT'S ON THE . WE GOT ON YOUR RADAR. WE HAVE YET TO DO THE BIG OUTREACH TO THE BUSINESSES AND MERCHANTS TO GET THEIR STUDY, TO GET THEIR IMPACT TO WHAT THEIR VISIONS ARE IN BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS AND THE ANALYSIS THAT'S GONNA BE KEY. MM-HMM . WE, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET, SO. OKAY. AND LET ME JUST BACK UP FOR ONE SECOND. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION TO INCORPORATE THIS AND WORKING WITH THE HYATT? 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF PARKING PROBLEMS IN THEIR LOT AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO SOME KIND OF A METERING SYSTEM OR VALIDATION SYSTEM. UH, AND I HAVE NO IDEA. IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE I'VE, I EVEN HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM OVER THERE. BUT EVEN THE SHOPS AT PINYA POINT, THEY WERE GONNA KEEP THAT OPEN, BUT HAVE THE HOTEL VALIDATED. UH, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM AT ALL LANDSCAPES? I HAVE NOT. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW. THANK YOU. I KNOW KURT HAS ACTUALLY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT. AND AS WE DEVELOP OUR PORTAL TO BREWER PROJECT, THEY WANT TO COORDINATE WITH US ON THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN RELATION TO WHAT YOU'RE YEAH. THAT'S ON SOUTH 7 79 CORRIDOR STATE ROUTE 79 CORRIDOR. SAME THING. THE MERCHANTS WERE LOOKING AT, UM, THEIR OWN CONTROLLED PARKING ACCESS, SO, OKAY. ONGOING. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, VICE MAYOR. SO WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE MAKING A DECISION ON THE PARKING MANAGEMENT TECHNOLOGY? [03:15:01] 'CAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING TO INCORPORATE IT DESIGN OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, RIGHT? CORRECT. EARLY IN 2025. SO JANUARY 28TH IS WHERE WE'RE PLANNING TO BRING FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND TO US. BUDGET MEET. YES. THAT'LL REALLY BE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DIRECTION WE GO. THANK YOU. UM, PRETTY MUCH THE REST OF IT, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD IT FROM ROBERT. UM, CREATE UPTOWN SHUTTLE CIRCULATOR AND THEN, UH, MODIFY THE VERDE SHUTTLE ROUTE TO THE GARAGE AND THEN BACK TO BACK TO COTTONWOOD. AND, UH, THEN I THINK WE STILL NEED TO EVALUATE THE MULTIMODAL, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, WILL THE CITY BE LOOKING OR WILL YOU BE LOOKING TO US HAVING BICYCLES THAT, THAT WE RENT OR, OR SCOOTERS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. OKAY. CONTINUE ON. NEXT SLIDE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. EASY PEASY. SO AS A CLOSEOUT TO EACH GOAL AREA, UM, I ASKED, UH, BARBARA, WHAT OTHER, UM, CONTRACTS DO WE HAVE THAT SUPPORT THE COMPLETE, THE EXECUTION OF THESE GOALS THAT ARE HANDLED BY PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY? AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO CAPTURE THAT JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION AT THE END OF EACH GOAL AREA. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH VERDE SHUTTLE, UM, THAT SUPPORTS OUR CIRCULATION GOAL. AND, UM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE OTHER ONES. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S IN THE POINT FOR THERE, BUT YOU CAN SHARE THAT PIECE. THERE'S A, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR YOU AND THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE EFFORTS TAKE A BIGGER TEAM THAN JUST C'S ENTITY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF NON-PROFIT AND OTHER PARTNERS THAT HELP US ACHIEVE THESE GOALS. CAN YOU GIMME JUST A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT, WHO'S IN THAT LIST OF 2.5 OR 4 MILLION? OH GOSH. THERE'S A LOT IN LIVABILITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. THERE ARE SOME, BUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THAT'S 2.0 IN ONE. THE VERDE SHUTTLE? NO, THE, NO, I THINK THEY'RE 2 MILLION. OH, THE TOTAL, THE 2 MILLION HAS A LOT. YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THEM IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY AREA. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME IN ARTS, THEY'RE KIND OF ALL OVER. BUT EACH, EACH END OF EACH SECTION WILL SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHICH CONTRACTS, LIKE APPLY TO COMMUNITY GOAL, APPLY TO, UH, ENVIRONMENT, ALL THOSE. OH, SO WHAT ARE THEY FOR THIS GOAL? THIS ONE JUST FOR, FOR CIRCULATION GOAL IS THE VERDE SHUTTLE. OH, OKAY. MY, MY, YEAH. THE REST ARE THE TOTAL OF THEM. LIKE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S THE VERDE SHUTTLE REPRESENTS 14.3% OF THE TOTAL SPEND ON COMMUNITY CONTRACTS. OKAY. SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE MADE IT MORE CLEAR IN THE SLIDE. I'M LIKE, WHAT NOW? READ MY MIND. Y'ALL. . . ALRIGHT, SO, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, DO I THINK WE CAN TRY TO GET THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY OR A BIG PORTION OF IT BEFORE THE LUNCH BREAK, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE READY FOR THAT. I, I THINK WE ARE. OKAY. BUT KEEPING IN MIND AT 12 O'CLOCK WILL BE THE AT HARD STOP FOR OUR LUNCH BREAK. SOMEONE'S HUNGRY. SO WE'LL HAVE, UM, BRIAN'S HUNGRY NOW. HE'S HANGRY. HANGRY. HE'S ABOUT THE ROXANNE. NO, IT'S ALL ON YOU. SO WE'LL HAVE ROXANNE AND BRYCE COME UP. ALRIGHT. UM, AND SANDY, THANK YOU, LANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LANCE. BRYCE. SO, UM, HE WAS HERE. HE WAS, HE WAS HOBBLING. SHE STARTS, YEAH, HE'S ON A, I THINK HE'S GOT A CAST. WELL, WE'RE GONNA START IT OFF WITH WASTEWATER. SO WE WILL HAVE TIME FOR BRYCE TO JOIN US. HE'S GOT A CAST ON HIM. I'LL HELP YOU. ALL RIGHT. HELLO. I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK SO WE CAN GET THROUGH. OH, I, UM, MY, AT LEAST MY PORTION BY LUNCHTIME FOR YOU. UM, GO AHEAD. ROXANNE HOLLAND, DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER. I KNOW MOST OF YOU, EXCEPT FOR YOU, DEREK, NICE TO MEET YOU. UM, LOOKING AT THE WASTEWATER CAPITAL BUDGET, IT COMPRISES 17% OF THE CITY'S OVERALL CAPITAL BUDGET. UM, YEAR TO DATE, WE HAVE SPENT APPROXIMATELY $1.8 MILLION ON OUR CIP PROJECTS. UM, OUT OF OUR $8.2 MILLION BUDGET THIS YEAR, UM, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON TRACK CLOSER TO THAT 8 MILLION BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE, UH, ONE MAJOR PROJECT WRAPPING UP, AND THEN ONE MAJOR PROJECT JUST STARTING. SO CAN YOU JUST GO OVER WHAT THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE QUICKLY? I MEAN, THE, THE TWO LARGE DOLLAR PROJECTS, I'LL GO OVER 'EM IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES. [03:20:01] UM, IN TERMS OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, UM, WE REPRESENT 18.5% OF THE CITY'S OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET. UM, WE ARE AROUND $10 MILLION PER YEAR FOR OUR OPERATING COSTS. UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF OUR, UM, MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THIS YEAR AND GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE TO THEM. UH, THE FIRST IS THE MAJOR LIFT STATION UPGRADES. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DELAYS FOR SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, THE PROJECT IS ABOUT $3.46 MILLION. WE ARE UPGRADING OUR LIFT STATION CONTROLS. WE'RE INSTALLING NEW PUMPS, VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVES, FLOW METERS AND TRANSFER SWITCHES. UM, AND THEN ADDITION, WE'RE REFRESHING THE WET WELL COATINGS TO KEEP THOSE WET WELLS IN GOOD WORKING CONDITION. UM, THE BREWER'S LIFT STATION IS A HUNDRED COMPLETE, A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE. WE HAVE ALL NEW EQUIPMENT IN THAT LIFT STATION. THE CONTRACTOR'S JUST FINALIZING SOME PUNCH LIST ITEMS THERE. UM, OUR CARROLL CANYON LIFT STATION, UM, WHEN I MADE THESE SLIDES WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 50% COMPLETE, BUT WE, UM, WE RAN INTO SOME DELAYS WITH THE COATINGS ON THOSE, ONE OF THOSE WET WELLS. AND SO THOSE TWO OF THE FOUR PUMPS THERE ARE GOING TO BE COMMISSIONED, UM, JUST AFTER THE NEW YEAR. UM, SAME WITH EL CAMINO. THOSE SHOULD BE TWO OF THE FOUR PUMPS THERE SHOULD BE COMMISSIONED RIGHT AFTER THE, THE FIRST OF THE NEW YEAR. AND THEN THE PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE AROUND MARCH TIMEFRAME. RIGHT. UM, THE NEXT BIGGEST CAPITAL PROJECT WE HAVE IS OUR WASTEWATER REC, UM, RECOMMENDATION, PLANT TREATMENT PROCESS UPGRADES. IN THAT PROJECT. THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY. UM, THIS ONE IS REPLACING OUR, UH, UV SYSTEM WITH A NEW ONE. IT, THE NEW SYSTEM WILL BE A CLOSED CONTACT SYSTEM, WHICH DIFFERS FROM OUR EXISTING OPEN CHANNEL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. UM, WE'RE HOPING TO, WE ARE ANTICIPATING SOME ENERGY COST SAVINGS WITH THE NEW SYSTEM AND SOME LOWER OPERATING COSTS. UM, COUNCIL APPROVED THAT CMAR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BACK IN OCTOBER. UM, THE CONTRACTORS STARTING WITH SOME DEMO AND DOING SOME MATERIAL SUBMITTALS. AND WE ARE ALSO, UM, CONCURRENTLY DOING A DEQ APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN, UM, CONSTRUCTION, ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION TO INSTALL THE NEW EQUIPMENT SHOULD BEGIN AROUND FEBRUARY AND MARCH, UM, WITH THE COMPLETION IN FALL OF NEXT YEAR. ROXANNE, DOES THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE THROUGHPUT? IT'S OPERATIONAL COSTS, YOU SAY, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S KIND OF LIKE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONAL COST. IT'S THE TIME WE HAVE TO SPEND OPERATING, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY OPERATING IT. UM, IT'S ALSO THE COST OF THE BULBS. LIKE RIGHT NOW WE SPEND A LOT ON PROPRIETARY BULBS. NO, NO IMPACT ON THE THROUGHPUT. NO, NO. UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHILE IT'S NOT HIGH DOLLAR, IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF, UM, IMPACT TO FUTURE DECISION MAKING IS OUR WASTEWATER RECLAMATION PLANT FACILITY PLAN. UM, IN THAT PLAN WE'RE EVALUATING, UM, THE CAPACITY OF THE TREATMENT PLANT, BOTH IN TERMS OF VOLUME FLOW THAT WE GET, MAKING SURE IT'S ADEQUATE FOR FUTURE GROWTH, UM, OR INCREASES IN IN FLOW. AND THEN ALSO EVALUATING WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED, WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY BASED ON OUR WASTEWATER STRENGTH. UM, WE'RE ALSO EVALUATING OPTIONS FOR PFAS REMOVAL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS LIKELY COMING UP IN THE, THE NEAR FUTURE FOR US. UM, ALSO EVALUATING DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR AFFLUENT MANAGEMENT IN TERMS OF DELIVERING RECLAIMED WATER TO CITY LIMITS, AS WELL AS EVALUATING FEASIBILITY FOR ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RECLAIMED WATER DELIVERY TO CITY LIMITS, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PROJECTED USE? IS IT ONLY, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT POTENTIALLY ARIZONA WATER? SO RECLAIMED WATER, UM, CAN ONLY BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS. LIKE MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IRRIGATION FOR OUR PARKS. FOR OUR, YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS. INCREDIBLE EXPENSE TO RUN PURPLE PIPES TO OUR PARKS. AND PROBABLY WE DON'T HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL WATER USER THAT CONSUMES, WE DON'T TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER AND NO, AND, AND EVEN IF WE DEVELOPED LIKE A RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM WHERE WE COULD DELIVER IT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME, MOST OF OUR HOMES AROUND HERE ARE LOW WATER USE IN TERMS OF OUTDOOR WATER USE. SO THANK YOU, ROXANNE. RIGHT NOW THE PIPES DO COME FROM THE, THE PLANT. THEY GO UP NORTH TO CULTURAL PARK OR BEYOND. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DELIVER RECLAIMED WATER AT ALL TO CITY LIMITS. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A VACANT PIPE. THERE'S A, A DRY PIPE. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY OF USING THAT FOR DELIVERY. SO THAT'LL BE ALL BE IN THE PLAN. WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S [03:25:01] SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED OR SOMETHING NEW WOULD NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED WOULD DECOMMISSION THAT. AND OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. IS IT STUDY GONNA TRADE THAT OFF AGAINST TRUCKING IT IN? UH, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT TRUCKING, NO. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, CARBON FOOTPRINT WISE AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS, THAT WOULDN'T BE A FEASIBLE RIGHT. ALTERNATIVE BALANCED AGAINST COSTS, THOUGH IS ALWAYS AN INTERESTING ONE. YEAH. YEAH. UM, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE? MM-HMM . THANKS. OH, AND, AND SO BASICALLY THE OVERALL THIS PLAN WILL PROVIDE SOME NECESSARY FRAMEWORK IN TERMS OF DECISION MAKING ON WHAT OUR FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF AFFLUENT MANAGEMENT AND WATER POLICY. SO, UM, EXCUSE ME. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, ROXANNE. AND, UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE YOU SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL WITH A DRAFT PLAN JANUARY 15TH, CORRECT? YES. FOR YOUR WORK SESSION THAT WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15TH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT PLAN TO COUNCIL. UM, SO JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR OPERATIONAL HIGHLIGHTS THIS YEAR, UH, WE, UH, OBTAINED A NEW SEWER CLEANING TRUCK. AND THIS ALLOWS US TO CLEAN OUR SEWER LINES. UH, HERE'S OUR OPERATORS EXTREMELY HAPPY TO BE STANDING NEXT TO THIS BRIGHT, SHINY NEW TOY THAT THEY GET TO USE. AND YOU SHOULD SEE IT. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, 'CAUSE I RAN ACROSS THE GUYS OUT HERE, UHHUH NEARBY, AND I MEAN, IT'S REALLY AMAZING. IT'S REALLY AMAZING. IT'S IMPRESSIVE. IT'S VERY LARGE. UM, OUR OLD ONE WAS VERY LONG IN THE TOOTH, AND THESE GUYS ARE HAPPY TO HAVE PROPERLY WORKING EQUIPMENT. SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO DO WEEKLY CLEANING AND CAMERA. WE WORK, WE'RE DEDICATING ONE TO TWO DAYS A WEEK TO THAT, AND THAT HELPS US EVALUATE OUR SEWER LINE, UM, CONDITIONS AND KEEP OUR SYSTEM RUNNING WELL. UM, WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT OUR WASTEWATER RECLAMATION PLANT TO OUR CHLORINE GENERATION SYSTEM AND OUR SOLIDS HANDLING SYSTEM. JUST KEEPING THOSE UP TO DATE AND RUNNING WELL. UMAND, WE WEEKLY CLEANING AND CAMERA WORK WITH THIS TRUCK, SO THIS TRUCK CLEANS IT. AND THEN WE HAVE A SEPARATE CAMERA VAN THAT DOES THE CAMERA WORK. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IF MAYBE WE WERE SUPPLEMENTING THE OTHER TRUCK WITH A CAMERA ON HERE TOO, SO, OKAY. NO, NO. THIS ONE'S PURELY FOR CLEANING. THE CAMERA VAN IS ALSO, I MEAN, REALLY, IT'S AMAZING FOLKS, YOU SHOULD GO SEE THESE THINGS IN OPERATIONS. THEY REALLY ARE AMAZING. YEAH, IT'S PRETTY COOL. UM, AND ONE THING I'D REALLY LIKE TO NOTE THAT I'M PROUD OF OUR STAFF FOR ACCOMPLISHING IS EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A LAB INSPECTION, UM, BY THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES. UM, THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE HAD ZERO DEFICIENCIES, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD SUGGESTIONS LIKE, CHANGE THIS OR CHANGE THAT. WELL, THIS YEAR WE HAD ZERO DEFICIENCIES AND ZERO SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT. UM, AND THAT IS SO RARE THAT THE INSPECTOR THAT CAME OUT HAD TO CALL HIS BOSS AND WAS LIKE, WELL, WHAT DO I DO HERE? BECAUSE NOBODY EVER ACCOMPLISHES THAT AND WE'VE NEVER ACCOMPLISHED IT. SO THAT WAS REALLY SOMETHING FOR US TO BE PROUD OF. I'LL SAY. UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR INFLUENCE FLOWS OVER THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS. UM, THE BLUE IS FY 23. UH, PURPLE IS FY 24 AND GREEN IS IS THIS YEAR. UM, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE BROKEN OUT BY MONTH. AND THEN ON THE LEFT HAND ON THE Y AXIS, WE HAVE MILLION GALLONS. SO WE'RE HOLDING STEADY ABOUT 1.2 MILLION GALLONS ACROSS THE BOARD. YOU CAN SEE IN MARCH THAT REALLY RAMPS UP. THOSE ARE THE, THE COLUMNS, UM, THE LINES, THERE ARE OUR MAXIMUM VALUES EVERY MONTH THAT WE SEE. SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM ONE DAY PER MONTH THAT WE SAW. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE HAVE STARTED TO INCREASE FROM 24, 25, 23, WHERE IT IN IN MONTHS, UM, UH, SEASONALLY. SO LIKE WE WENT OVER 2 MILLION GALLONS PER MONTH, UM, PER DAY ON IN FY 23 FOR ONE DAY. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING. IN TERMS OF CAPACITY, WE'RE NOT SEEING AN AVERAGE ANNUAL INCREASE IN OUR FLOW, BUT THOSE PEAK FLOWS ARE, ARE INCREASING FOR US. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS JUST LIKE THE DAILY, OH, I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR YOU? DO YOU, UH, NOTHING REALLY. IT JUST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CAPACITY TO TREAT THOSE PEAK FLOWS, WHICH, UM, PRELIMINARY WITH THIS PLAN, WE WE'RE OKAY. BUT, UM, WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY PEAK FLOW? OUR PEAK FLOW CAPACITY? WELL, IT VARIES PER PROCESS, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TO IT UNTIL, UNTIL I HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. BUT THE, THE WASTEWATER RECLAMATION FACILITY PLANT PLAN, WHEN WE SEE, WHEN WE SEE THIS GRAPH GOES UP ABOVE TWO, HOW CLOSE ARE WE GETTING, [03:30:02] UM, TO OUR MAX CAPACITY AT THE PLANT? NO, NOT CLOSE. YOU MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE WELL OVER TWO FOR MOST PROCESSES. YEAH. SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY. SO WITH POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AT THE WESTERN GATEWAY, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT CAPACITY? NO. UM, SO WE HAVE A 2 MILLION GALLON PERMITTED CAPACITY. UH, WESTERN GATEWAY IS UNLIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE, YOU KNOW, 800,000 TO A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THAT, THAT'S A LOT. THAT'S ALMOST AN ENTIRE NEW CITY. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT. YEAH, THAT'S A LOT. BUT SAY WE A NUMBER, PICKING A NUMBER OUT OF THIN AIR, 300 HOUSING UNITS, 200 HOUSING UNITS, WHATEVER IT IS WE HAVE, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR THAT. YEAH. DO WE NEED LIFT STATION CHANGES? AND, UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHERE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. UM, IF DEVELOPMENT OCCURS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, THAT'S SOME OF OUR SMALLER, OLDER LIFT STATIONS. UM, THE UPTOWN AREA I MEANT ABOUT WESTERN GATEWAY, RIGHT? WESTERN GATEWAY LIKELY WOULDN'T EVEN NEED A, UM, THEY WOULD NEED A LIFT STATION TO GET TO OUR, TO OUR SEWER MAIN, BECAUSE IT SITS A LITTLE BIT LOWER WHERE OUR SEWER MAIN IS. BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY MAJOR LIFT STATION NEEDED TO, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORT OUT TO THE PLANT. VERY INTERESTING. OKAY. SO LOOKING IN, OH, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE ONE LIKE SHORT COMMENT. TYPICALLY WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE WASTEWATER FACILITY MASTER PLANNING, THEY'RE TAKING A LOOK AT OUR COMP PLAN AND OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND ALL THE PROJECTED LIKE DENSITIES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA AND FACTORING THAT IN INTO THE FLOW CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING. SO THEY ARE MAKING SOME ESTIMATES BASED ON, UH, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL OCCUR WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OR, YOU KNOW, AN ANNEXED AREA OR WHATEVER. THEY'LL, THEY'LL INCLUDE THAT. YEAH. THANKS, ANNETTE. WE DID LOOK AT THAT IN OUR, OUR WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WHICH LOOKED AT OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM. WE DID THAT IN 2018. IT WAS ALL BASED ON ZONING. UM, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE WASTEWATER RECLAMATION PLANT. SO WE USED THOSE NUMBERS FROM THAT 2018 PLAN WITH SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO, TO EVALUATE CAPACITY NOW. UM, SO LOOKING INTO WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT HOLD FOR WASTEWATER, UM, WE HAVE SOME UPCOMING REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS REGARDING PFAS, UH, REMOVAL. UM, WE KNOW, WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WE WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT PROCESSES AT OUR, OUR TREATMENT PLANT. IT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFFING NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, AND THERE WILL LIKELY BE SOME HIGH CAPITAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH IMPLEMENTATION. UM, BUT THAT'S A REQUIREMENT BY A DQ, IT COULD BE . SO, UM, THERE'S ALSO AN, AN ANTICIPATED INCREASE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET ASSOCIATED WITH PFAS REMOVAL. UM, EARLY ON IN THE RULE MAKING PROCESS, IT WAS, IT WAS GUNG-HO WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT PFAS REMOVAL FOR BOTH DRINKING WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES. THE EPA HAS SINCE BACKED OFF ON RULE MAKING FOR WASTEWATER. UM, THEY IMPLEMENTED THE RULES ON DRINKING WATER. THOSE ARE ACTIVE AND THEY HAVE LIKE A THREE OR FIVE YEAR COMPLIANCE SCHEDULE FOR THAT. UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING'S JUST GONE STAGNANT WITH THE RULE FOR WASTEWATER. UM, SO IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT FINAL RULEMAKING WOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. AND SO WE PUT UP THERE THAT OUR FINAL RULEMAKING COULD BE AS EARLY AS 2025 BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED ON THE PROCESS OF WHAT THEY THINK MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE REGULATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO IMPOSE. UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF IF, IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION OF WHEN THESE REGULATIONS WILL COME OUT. RIGHT. AND WE'VE GOT A REGIME CHANGE IN WASHINGTON AND SOME MIGHT LOOK IN THEIR CRYSTAL BALL OR THEIR BLACK BALL AND, UH, TRY TO PREDICT, BUT WOULDN'T IT SEEM LIKE THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE SOME OF THIS RULEMAKING ONCE IN PLACE? I ASSUME IT CAN BE POLLED, RIGHT? THE RULEMAKING MM-HMM . YEAH. UNTIL IT'S, IT'S FINALIZED. IT CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED, EVEN IF IT'S FINALIZED WITH A NEW HEAD OF EPA. YEAH, I, I'M NOT SURE. I CAN'T, LIKE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY FOR THE DRINKING, I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND SAY, OKAY, DRINKING WATER COMPANIES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE PFAS ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THEY DO, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT COULD BE REMOVED, BUT WITHOUT A BIG PROCESS. WITHOUT A BIG PROCESS. VERY LONG, VERY LONG PROCESS. ROXANNE IS, I MEAN, ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE, I'M SURE, BUT SURE. WOULD THEY GO THROUGH THAT AT THE, [03:35:02] I DON'T KNOW. ROXANNE IS PFAS IN THE WATER WE PUT BACK INTO THE AQUIFER, THE INJECTION WATER, IS THAT COVERED UNDER THE WASTEWATER STUFF OR THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER, UNDER THE WASTEWATER STUFF, YES. NOT THE DRINKING WATER. CORRECT. THANK YOU. YEAH. UM, THERE'S A, A STRATEGY OR AN ACTION IN OUR COMMUNITY PLAN ABOUT LINKING WASTEWATER RATES TO WATER USE TO ENCOURAGE WATER CONSERVATION. UH, IS THE STUDY THAT'S JUST A FACILITY STUDY, BUT THE, IS THE, ARE THE RATE STUDY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING FOR NEXT YEAR? SO THE RATE STUDY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TIMING OF IT IS, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS ON THE BOOKS. I THINK A NET COULD PROBABLY SPEAK BETTER TO THE MM-HMM . THANK YOU. UM, YES. SO IT'S IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR, I BELIEVE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT'S, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO CONDUCT AN UPDATED RATE STUDY. UM, WE NEED THE DATA FROM THE FACILITY PLAN TO INFORM THAT. SO I THINK ONCE WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE FACILITY PLAN, WHICH INFORMS FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH INFORMS THE RATES WE NEED TO CHARGE TO HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, ALL OF THAT WILL START, UM, KICKING OFF ONCE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE AT WITH THE FACILITY PLAN. IN TERMS OF THE POLICY ISSUE OF TYING IT TO WATER USAGE VERSUS FIXTURES VERSUS WHATEVER OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE IS, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION WE CAN ASK THE CONSULTANTS WHEN WE'RE SCOPING OUT THAT WORK, UM, TO PROVIDE US INFORMATION ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S COMPLICATIONS WITH, UH, WE JUST SIGNED AN AGREEMENT TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH ARIZONA WATER, CORRECT? YEAH. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IS THAT THE CASE WITH THE OTHER TWO SMALLER WATER PROVIDERS? DO WE HAVE, I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T DO BARBARA. DO YOU KNOW IF WE GET WATER DATA FOR THEM FOR COMMERCIAL? SO WE DO THAT FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO DO A WATER-BASED RATE. UM, AND I KNOW WE GET, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY WATER USAGE DATA FROM THE WATER COMPANIES. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S JUST ARIZONA WATER COMPANY OR THE OTHERS JUST ARIZONA WATER. I THINK SO. I THINK SO. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE CONSIDERATION, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM PEOPLE IF THEY THINK WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN USING, GOING DOWN THE PATH OF USING THEIR DRINKING WATER, UH, FLOW AS A BASIS TO CHARGE THEM FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT, IS THAT SOME FACILITIES ARE USING, UM, A LOT OF THEIR DRINKING WATER SOURCE FOR LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT DON'T END UP IN OUR TREATMENT SYSTEM. MM-HMM . UM, SO I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EVALUATE WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO CHARGE PEOPLE ON THAT BASIS OR NOT. THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS LIKE WE JUST SAW WITH THE DIFF RATES FOR WASTEWATER RATES? IS THAT CONTROLLED AT ALL? I BELIEVE ONLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CAPACITY FEE. I THINK FOR USER RATE SIDE FOR THE DAILY FLOW RATES, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A FORMAL FORMULA. I THINK IT'S ONLY ON THE BUY-IN THE CAPACITY CHARGE AT THE BUY-IN CENTER. BUT ISN'T THIS ALSO WHERE, OKAY, IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND, SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING. RIGHT. I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THERE'S A, THE ONLY STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR MUNICIPALITIES IS THAT OUR WASTEWATER, UH, RATES BE JUST AND REASONABLE WOULD BE THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT. JUST AND REASONABLE, WHICH IS PRETTY BROAD. YOU HAVE SOMETHING PETE? YEAH, ROXANNE, AT OUR LAST CP WAC MEETING, WE HAPPENED TO HAVE IT UP AT THE RIO DE FLAG TREATMENT PLANT. AND I WAS CURIOUS, I I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU AND I HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE AND I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO, IT'S ALL I'M GONNA DO HERE . OKAY. THAT I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TREAT SOME OF THEIR EFFLUENT LIQUID ONLY, NOT SOLID AT THAT PLANT, AND THEY DUMP IT INTO THE RIO DE FLAG. MM-HMM . AND OH, SNICKERS TELLS ME THAT ONE OF THE, WHAT'S THE SMALL COMMUNITY THAT'S UP ON 17 AS YOU'RE GETTING TO MUS MUS PARK, THAT TREATMENT PLANT THERE DUMPS IT INTO A WASH THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY GET DOWN TO THE OAK CREEK. IS THAT AN OPTION FOR US AT ALL TO ACTIVATE A RIPARIAN ZONE WEST? SO IT'S DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT PERMITTING PROCESS AND THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR WATER QUALITY GIVEN YOUR AN A PP, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS AN AQUIFER PROTECTION PERMIT VERSUS AN, UH, IT'S CALLED AN A-Z-P-D-E-S, UM, POLLUTANT ELIMINATION [03:40:01] DISCHARGE SYSTEM, I BELIEVE IS THE, UM, ACRONYM, BUT WE CANNOT, WE, SO WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT IN THE PAST. THE ONLY NEARBY WASH TO OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WOULD BE DRY CREEK WASH, AND THAT IS A DIRECT TRIBUTARY TO OAK CREEK. AND SINCE OAK CREEK IS A PROTECTED WATERWAY, THAT IS NOT AN OPTION FOR US. WHERE DOES MANS PARK GET AWAY WITH IT? I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS CONVERSATION , I'M NOT SURE WHAT I MEAN, IF IT'S, IT'S PERMITTED IF THEY'RE, IF THEY DO IT, IT'S PERMITTED, I'M ASSUMING IT'S PERMITTED. AND DEQ HAS VETTED THAT IT'S OKAY. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WASH THEY, THEY DISCHARGE TO OR, OR WHERE THAT ACTUALLY GOES. THANK YOU. OKAY, . SO, UM, WE ALSO, WE ALSO HAVE SOME UPCOMING REGULATORY OPTIONS. SOMETHING THAT SOME RULE MAKING THAT IS UNDERGOING, UM, AT A DQ, BUT WOULD BE AN OPTION FOR MUNICIPALITIES, BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT. UM, AND THAT IS ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION THAT IS TAKING TREATED WASTEWATER, EFFLUENT, TREATING IT FURTHER, AND THEN RETURNING THAT TO THE POTABLE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY, UM, DIRECTLY AS OPPOSED TO INDIRECTLY THROUGH AQUIFER RECHARGE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO NOW. UM, IT, LIKE I SAID, IT WILL BE A, AN OPTION BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR US. UM, IT, WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT THROUGH OUR FACILITY PLAN AS WELL TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE IN THE FUTURE AS AN EFFLUENT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, UM, IT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT PROCESSES, ADDITIONAL STAFFING NEEDS, UM, HIGH CAPITAL COST TO IMPLEMENT AND AN INCREASE IN, IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET. UM, THAT FINAL RULEMAKING IS SET TO BE, UM, UM, FINISHED IN 2025. UM, AND THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF COORDINATION ON OUR PART WITH THE WATER PROVIDERS TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT TO THEM. AND THEN THEY TAKE IT FROM THERE AND DELIVER IT TO CUSTOMERS. IT'S AN ARIZONA STANDARD. YEAH, YEAH. STATE STANDARD YEAH. WOULD BE AT THE STATE LEVEL. OH, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S, I WAS GONNA ASK. IT'S, IT'S STATE RULEMAKING, NOT FEDERAL RULEMAKING, CORRECT. YEAH. DO, DO WE EVER HAVE THE RESULTS OF THAT, UH, STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN COORDINATION WITH THE NAVAJO NATION? I MEAN THE, UH, NAVAJO PATCH? I HAVE NOT SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY YET. I THINK WE WERE ASKING FOR THEM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE EVER GOT THEM. I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH KURT ON THAT. RICHARDSON. YEAH. LEGAL KURT. LEGAL KURT . ALRIGHT. AND THAT IS ALL I HAD. UH, SO YOU HAVE HERE, BUT ADDITIONAL STAFFING NEEDS, AND I JUST FOUND OUT RECENTLY, I'M SURE YOU KNOW ABOUT AVAI COUNTY, AVAI COLLEGE IS TRAINING WASTE WEAR TREATMENT PEOPLE. YEAH, I'VE HEARD THAT. IT'S RIGHT. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING WE HEAR ABOUT. WE DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT IT. I WAS HOPING THAT YOU KNEW MORE ABOUT IT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, CLARKDALE SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE IN THE COLLEGES IN CLARKDALE. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, BETTER STAFFING, MORE STAFFING, BETTER OPTIONS? UH, MAYBE YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, STUDENTS COME DOWN AND WORK WITH YOU AS AN APPRENTICESHIP. UH, IS THERE ANY VIABILITY, VIABILITY, UH, FOR YOU IN THAT PROCESS? YEAH, I MEAN, IT COULD BE LIKE AN INTERNSHIP TYPE THING. UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LICENSE MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, CERTIFICATES AND LICENSES TO RUN OUR PLANT AND THEY HAVE TO BE AT A CERTAIN GRADE. SOME OF THESE TREATMENT OPTIONS REQUIRE HIGHER GRADE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. UM, AND IT ALSO, LIKE A WP WOULD REQUIRE WATER TREATMENT, UM, CERTIFICATES THAT AS, AS WELL AS WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT. SO WASTEWATER TREATMENT, I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE YOU CAN GRAB A STUDENT A COUPLE YEARS INTO THEIR, THEIR EDUCATION AND MAYBE THEY CAN BECOME AN EMPLOYEE DOWN THE ROAD. SURE. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WOULD WORK IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT GRADES. LIKE YOU COULDN'T COME OUT OF COLLEGE AND IMMEDIATELY BE A GRADE FOUR OPERATOR. IT, IT TAKES, SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT THAT LEVEL WHEN THEY COME OUT. RIGHT. WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR ENTRY LEVEL PEOPLE? UM, ENTRY LEVEL PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE AT ALL. SO, UM, LIKE OUR, WE HAVE ONE ENTRY LEVEL PERSON NOW WHO STARTED WITH NO LICENSES AT ALL. UM, HE'S OBTAINED HIS COLLECTIONS OPERATOR LICENSE SINCE EMPLOYMENT WITH US AND IS WORKING ON GETTING HIS TREATMENT. DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE FINDING ENTRY LEVEL PEOPLE? UH, NO. ENTRY LEVEL PEOPLE IS MOSTLY, MOSTLY WHAT WE, WE GET IN TERMS IF WE HAVE AN OPENING, THOSE ARE THE APPLICATIONS WE GET PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN WASTEWATER AT ALL. SO THERE'S NOT A PRESSING NEED YOU WOULD SEE, I MEAN, YES, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IN OUR BENEFIT TO SORT OF WORK WITH YAVAPAI COLLEGE AND SORT OF GET THEM TO DO THINGS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO US. BUT I'M NOT HEARING YOU SAY THAT THERE'S [03:45:01] A BIG HOLE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF EVERYBODY LEFT , YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD SOME OF OUR, OUR HIGHER GRADE PEOPLE LEAVE, THERE WOULD BE A BIG HOLE. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TROUBLE FINDING SOMEBODY WITH THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND AND LICENSURE THAT, THAT WE HAVE ON OUR STAFF NOW. UM, SO IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WANT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THOSE ENTRY LEVEL PEOPLE, WE WANNA PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH FOR THEM AND, AND KEEP THEM AROUND SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO, TO GROW WITHIN OUR WASTEWATER. SO THAT'S NOTHING I SHOULD BE PITCHING TO DR. RYAN OVER AT THE COLLEGE THAT TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. I'D TOTALLY BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME KIND OF INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. IT WOULD ALWAYS BE GREAT TO, TO HAVE IN THE FIELD EXPERIENCE GOING THROUGH EDUCATION LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHERE REALLY, WHERE YOU GET THE MOST EDUCATION IS IN THE FIELD AND DOING THE WORK. OH, I GET THAT. SO, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH THEIR, THEIR PROGRAM AS WELL AS FOR US TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A HELPING HAND AROUND. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. YEAH, ANNE, YOU KNOW, I, I I, I'M A, I'M JUST A WATER NERD KIND OF WEIRD PERSON, SO I ALWAYS TALK TO YOUR STAFF WHENEVER I SEE 'EM ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT WHAT A STRONG TEAM. I MEAN, THEY ALL REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY LIKE BEING ON THE TEAM AND YOU KNOW, I GET THIS FEEDBACK FROM THESE GUYS, JUST THIS VIBE FROM THEM THAT YOU'RE RUNNING A REALLY GREAT OPERATION THERE. SO THAT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR EITHER, ADAM, YOU'RE A TYRANT AND YOU'RE REALLY GUN . I DUNNO, , I LET THEM DO THEIR, THEIR WORK. THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD, NOT ME. . SO, WELL, I CAN ATTEST TO BACK A COUPLE YEARS AGO PRIOR TO ROXANNE AND SO MUCH NICER NOW IN A BETTER WORKING ENVIRONMENT FROM WHAT I HEAR. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. SO, UH, THAT BEING SAID, UH, ARE YOU ALMOST COMPLETED OR, THAT'S ALL I HAD. WHAT? PERFECT TIMING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOON. IS IT NOON? IT IS NOON. IT IS NOON. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA BREAK FOR LUNCH INTO THE ROADRUNNER CONFERENCE ROOM FOR US, AND WE'LL SEE YOU, I GUESS 1230. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT'LL BE ENOUGH COUNSEL? YEAH. OKAY. 1230. WE'LL BE BACK. THANK YOU, ROXANNE. THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. BRACE, BEFORE YOU COULD START, YOU HAVE TO GIVE US THE, THE INFORMATION OF WHAT HAPPENED, , HE'S GOT PICTURES. LISTEN, YOU DON'T WANNA SHARE IT. UH, SO I WAS IN, UH, WEST, WEST CLEAR CREEK, UH, JUST GOING FOR GOING FOR A HIKE. AND I WANTED TO, TO STAY OUT OF, UH, THE WATER THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT COLD. I DON'T BLAME YOU. AND, UH, I WAS LIKE, OH, I'LL JUST START HOPPING ALONG THE BOULDERS TO STAY OUT OF IT. AND WENT FOR A BOULDER. AND THE BOULDER DECIDED I DIDN'T WANT TO STAY PUT ANYMORE. OUCH. YEAH. ROLLED MY ANKLE OUTWARDS AND, UH, THEN I HAD THE HIKE BACK, SO IT'S GOOD. GOOD TIME. SO, UH, ONLY A COUPLE MORE WEEKS THOUGH, HOPEFULLY. AND I'M OUT OF THIS. WELL, HOPEFULLY IT'S A QUICK RECOVERY FOR YOU. APPRECIATE. ALRIGHT. ONWARD AND UPWARD. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR NEXT, UM, AREA IS WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY. THIS IS STEWARDSHIP, LIKE STEWARDSHIP OF THE ENVIRONMENT. WE DIVIDED IT INTO WASTEWATER AND THEN STEWARDSHIP. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BRYCE AND ANDY AND I CAN DRIVE IF YOU WANT. SURE. I'M ACTUALLY JUST GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BRYCE. OKAY. HAVE FUN BRYCE . GOOD LUCK. GET NOTES REAL QUICK. ALRIGHT. UM, YEAH, SO, UH, THE, UH, COMPONENT OF THE THE STEWARDSHIP PIECE, UH, WE'VE, FOR OPERATING BUDGET, UH, SORRY, MY APOLOGIES. FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, WE'VE HAD 860, 830 6,000, UH, RELATED TO IT WITH, UH, 1.4%, UM, BEING IN STEWARDSHIP, UH, SUBSECTION OF IT, UH, WE HAVEN'T, UH, BUDGET HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, EXPENDED YET. UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR, UH, FOR THAT. OH, MY APOLOGIES. UH, SO WE, UH, JUST LAST NIGHT WITH, UH, COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, WE WERE, WE WILL, UH, WORK ON EXPENDING SOME OF THAT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS THAT ARE MUNICIPALLY, UH, FLEET DIRECTED. AND SO IT'D BE, UH, SPECIFIC FOR MUNICIPAL FLEET OPERATION SINCE OUR EVS, UH, HAVE INCREASED. UH, PRIOR TO THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD TWO, WE HAD A, A FULL ON FULL EVS. WE HAD A VOLKSWAGEN ID FOUR, UM, AND A CHEVY BOLT. UH, AND THEN IN THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, THAT'S EXPANDED BY ANOTHER FIVE. SO WE'RE UP TO SEVEN, UH, FULLY ELECTRIC VEHICLES. UH, AND SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR COUNSEL FOR THE APPROVAL FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THOSE CHARGERS. UH, AND THEN I'LL BE WORKING ON AN ADDITIONAL HVAC, UH, OPTIMIZATION AND LIGHTING PROPOSAL HERE, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH TO HOPEFULLY, UH, BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD THAT WOULD KIND OF EXPEND THE REST OF THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE, UH, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR ON THAT ONE. AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CIP PROJECTS [03:50:01] THAT ARE ALSO, UH, MOVING ALONG, UH, IN RELATION TO THAT STREETLIGHTS RETROFITTING, UH, WHERE I'LL, I'LL COVER THAT IN, UH, UPCOMING SLIDES OR WHATNOT. BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH VENDOR SELECTIONS ON THAT AS WELL. SO, UH, GETTING SOME TRACTION THERE. BUT, UH, AT THE MOMENT, UH, WHEN THE SLIDES WERE CREATED, WE HAD AN EXPEND OF THOSE FUNDS, BUT WE'RE GETTING, UH, THE PROCESSES LINED UP FOR IT. AND SO AS A, AS A WHOLE, UH, WE'RE KIND OF A, A LITTLE SUBSECTION THERE WITH WASTEWATER. I MEAN, WASTE WATER'S DOING A REALLY, UH, REALLY FANTASTIC JOB. IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW, UH, ROXANNE WITH ALL THE REALLY COOL THINGS WE DOING OUT THERE. UH, BUT AS A, AS A WHOLE, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP SECTION, UH, REPRESENTS ABOUT 3.2% OF THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CITY. SO JUST, UH, SURE. UH, SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A, A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE, UH, COMPLETED, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PICTURES IN, IN THE, LIKE, AS IN OUR SUSTAINABILITY UPDATES, BUT, UH, WE HOSTED THE SIXTH ANNUAL H HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE EVENT. UH, THAT WAS OUR LARGEST TURNOUT. WE HAD OVER, UH, 400, UH, PARTICIPANTS AND THIS LAST ONE. AND, UH, WEST SEDONA SCHOOL WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO, TO OPERATE THE, THE EVENT AT THEIR FACILITY. I HOPE SO. UH, AND YAVAPAI COUNTY HAS BEEN AN, AN A, AN INTEGRAL PARTNER FOR US IN THAT EVENT. UH, THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH US ON EVERY, EVERY YEAR THAT IT'S, IT'S HOSTED, UH, 'CAUSE UH, YAVAPAI COUNTY HAS, HAS RECOGNIZED, UH, THAT WITHIN THE COUNTY THERE'S A, A LACK OF HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, EVENTS. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN REALLY PUSHING, UH, FOR US IN, UH, INCORPORATING IT. SO WE'RE, I THINK, THE ONLY ONE IN THE VERDE VALLEY THAT HAS PARTNERED WITH THEM ON, ON EVENTS OF THIS NATURE FOR, UH, FOR LEAST THE LAST SIX YEARS. UH, I ALSO JUST, UH, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, THE CONTINUED, UH, COLLABORATION WITH LOCAL FIRST ARIZONA FOR A GREEN BUSINESS BOOTCAMP. UH, IT'S KIND OF A FACILITATOR FOR OUR, THE ENERGY SECTION OF IT, BUT IT'S REALLY TRYING TO ENCOURAGE, UH, SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN IT, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH SUSTAINABILITY OBJECTIVES, UH, FROM ENERGY TO WASTE CONSUMPTION TO CIRCULAR ECONOMY, UH, AND THE LIKE. AND THEN THE REALLY COOL, UH, PART OF THE, THAT PROGRAM WITH LOCAL FIRST IS THAT IT'S ABLE TO CONNECT, UH, BUSINESSES WITH, UH, GRANT WRITERS AND, UH, SPECIALISTS THAT CAN HELP KIND OF CRAFT PROGRAMS THAT, UH, CAN DIRECTLY, UH, PAR OR PARTAKE IN OR HAVE IMPACTS FOR THE, THE LOCAL ECONOMIES HERE. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UH, AND THEN WE HAD A DQ, UH, RECYCLING RECEPTACLES THAT ARE THE PICTURE ON THE LOWER RIGHT, WHICH IS, UH, THE, UH, RECEPTACLES THEMSELVES. UH, AND AD IT WAS A A DQ RECYCLING GRANT. AND THAT HAD THE, THE, THE STUDENT ARTWORK, UH, CLIMATE ARTWORK THAT WAS, UM, POSTED ON THE SIDE OF THE, UH, PANELS THEMSELVES. HEY, BRYCE. YEP. HOW, HOW ARE THOSE RECEPTACLES WORKING IN ACTUAL USAGE? LIKE GREAT CONCEPT AND EVERYTHING? ARE THEY WORKING AS INTENDED? ARE THEY, UM, RELIABLE? ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, NOT BREAKING DOWN? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION. UH, SO THE, THE OVERALL, THEY'RE WORKING AS ATTENDED. WE'RE HAVING SOME, UH, LITTLE ISSUES WITH, UH, WE, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S POSTED OUT, OUT OF THE WASTEWATER, UH, WETLANDS FACILITY. THAT ONE, UH, IS HAVING STRUGGLES ON GETTING THE DATA REPORTED OUT BECAUSE THE CELL CONNECTIVITY IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, CHALLENGING OUT THERE. UH, BUT FROM A RELIABILITY STANDPOINT, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN RELIABLE. IT'S JUST SOME MINOR LITTLE HICCUPS THAT WE'RE HAVING ON CONNECTIVITY PIECES. UH, WE HAD ONE, ONE BATTERY, UH, GO OUT EARLY ON ONE OF THE RECEPTACLES THAT WAS, UH, COVERED UNDER THE, THE WARRANTY FOR IT. UH, BUT AS A WHOLE, I THINK THEY'VE, THEY'VE HELD UP NICELY, UH, AND WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING BETTER DATA ON IT. AND SO SARAH, UH, HAS BEEN, UM, BEEN COMPILING ALL OF THAT. AND SO WE'RE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT IN A MORE, UH, ROBUST PIECE FOR IT. BUT I THINK OVERALL THEY'VE BEEN, BEEN VERY, VERY WELL RECEIVED. UH, AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN HANDLING WELL. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, AND THEN, UH, JUST AS, UH, JUST WANNA TOUCH ON ONE OTHER PIECE FOR THE, THE, UH, COMPLETED SECTION IS THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, TRYING TO IMPROVE ON, UH, HOSTING ADDITIONAL, LIKE RESILIENCY WORKSHOPS TO GET COMMUNITY MEMBERS ENGAGED WITH VARIOUS SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED ACROSS THE CITY. UH, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UH, SAY THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY WORKSHOP, THAT ONE WAS TRYING TO GET FOLKS CONNECTED WITH THEIR HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROGRAM, UH, AS WELL AS WE HAD, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM A PS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC SECURITY, UH, FOR THE STATE, UH, COME OUT AND, UH, PARTICIPATE IN. THE GOAL IS ALSO IF, IF SOMEBODY WAS, UH, HAVING ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS FOR UTILITY BILLS ALIKE, TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF, UH, CONNECT THEM WITH THOSE RESOURCES TO BUILD A MORE RESILIENT, UH, COMPONENT INTO OUR, OUR CLIMATE ACTION AND OUR, UH, SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. UH, AND THEN WE RECENTLY HOSTED AN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WORKSHOP, UH, AS WELL. UH, AND THAT ONE WAS WITH THE COLLABORATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT AND, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICES TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION OUT ON THE KNOW YOUR ZONE, WHAT YOU CAN DO TO PREPARE YOUR HOUSEHOLD IN THE, LIKE. SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THOSE EFFORTS. UH, THOSE WERE LARGELY [03:55:01] DONE THROUGH OUR AMERICORPS, UH, TEAM MEMBER, UH, AMY. UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, TENTATIVE APPROVAL FROM, UH, NE'S AMERICORPS VISTA PROGRAM FOR ANOTHER POSITION THAT WE'D BE LOOKING, UH, TO BRING ON HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR, UH, FOR ONGOING PROJECTS. UH, THE FOURTH ROUND OF THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT, UH, LAUNCHED IN OCTOBER. AND THAT ONE IS, UH, RUNNING SMOOTHLY. UH, WE ALREADY HAD THE, IT'S BUDGETED AT $90,000 FOR THE AGREEMENT, UH, FOR THIS FOURTH ROUND. WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, 50, I THINK IT'S 56,000, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, UH, UH, ALLOTTED FOR HOUSEHOLDS, UH, THROUGH THE PROGRAM. SO THAT ONE'S, UH, UH, RUNNING, UH, RUNNING WELL. UH, AND HAVEN'T, UH, HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM, FROM COZY HOME OR ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN IT. SO, UH, THAT ONE IS, IS KIND OF SMOOTH SAILING RIGHT NOW. UH, JUST OPERATIONALLY, UH, COMPOSTING IS ALSO GOING WELL. THAT ONE WAS RECENTLY EXPANDED TO 150 HOUSEHOLDS. UH, AND WE THINK WE'RE, WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED, WE THINK WE'RE AT CLOSE TO 120, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. I'LL GET THE SOLID NUMBER FOR YOU, UH, AS WELL. BUT, UH, THAT ONE, UH, I THINK IS, IS MOVING ALONG. UH, JUST, WELL, JUST FINE. UH, KIND OF A NEW ONE THAT, UH, JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS, IS AN EXPANSION OF OUR, UH, TRADITIONAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE THIRD BULLET POINT DOWN. UH, WE'VE TRADITIONALLY, IT'S BEEN MORE OF LIKE PUBLIC CLEANUP EVENTS AND SOME WATERSHED EDUCATION TABLING COMPONENTS. UH, AND WE ALTERED, UH, THE AGREEMENT A BIT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF EXPAND AND OFFER A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, SERVICES WITHIN IT. SO THERE'S STILL A COMPONENT OF THE PUBLIC CLEANUP EVENTS AND THE LIKE, BUT ALSO EXPANDING IT TO, UH, KIND OF AN INVASIVE, UH, SPECIES MONITORING OR AUDITING OF OUR OWN FACILITIES TO SEE WHAT INVASIVE SPECIES OUT THERE, HOW WELL OUR, OUR NATIVES ARE DOING ON OUR OWN, UH, FACILITIES. UH, AND KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT, UH, THAT PROCESS WITH OUR, IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, UH, AND OUR, UH, GIS UH, TEAM MEMBERS, TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW WE CAN SET THAT UP TO SEE, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON OUR OWN PROPERTIES AND SEE HOW WE CAN, UH, START IDENTIFYING WAYS FOR MANAGING SOME OF THOSE PESKY ONES LIKE TREE OF HEAVEN AND ALL THE, THE FUN ONES THAT ARE, UM, UM, GIVING US TROUBLE. UH, THE, UH, NORTHERN ARIZONA SOLAR CO-OP IS ALSO JUST, UH, RUNNING ALONG SMOOTHLY. AND I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT A REALLY COOL THING FOR LES SPRINGS UNDER THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM. UH, THEY APPLIED FOR A RIVER FRIENDLY LIVING GRANT, UH, FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE VERDE RIVER FOR, UM, WATER METERS, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, HOA. AND THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT GRANT. AND, UH, WE, WE SUPPORTED THEM IN THAT APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE LIKE. SO REALLY, REALLY EXCITED TO SEE LES SPRINGS CONTINUE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, UH, AND REALLY COME UP WITH SOME REALLY, UH, GREAT WAYS TO ENGAGE THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS. WE HOSTED A SOLAR CO-OP PRESENTATION FORUM, UH, OUR FACILITATED THAT. UH, WE ALSO, UH, HAVE CONNECTED THEM WITH THE RIVER FRIENDLY LIVING, UH, PIECE AND THE LIKE. AND, UH, ZACH'S BEEN WORKING, UH, UM, VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON IDENTIFYING THINGS THAT THEY COULD DO THAT APPLY TO THE SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM. BRYCE, DO YOU, I'M LOOKING AT THE GOALS FOR ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN, AND THERE'S A LOT IN HERE ABOUT FIREWISE AND LIVING IN A WILDFIRE, YOU KNOW, WILDLAND URBAN, UH, ENVIRONMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHERE DOES THAT BELONG? DOES THAT BELONG WITH YOUR GROUP OR IS THAT SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE? GREAT QUESTION. I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY ELEMENTS THAT TIE IN, UH, FOR, FOR US IN SUSTAINABILITY, UH, MAINLY LIKE A CLIMATE ADAPTATION RESILIENCY PIECE FOR IT. UH, IN TERMS OF LIKE, WHO HOUSES THE BEST KNOWLEDGE FOR IT. LIKE IN SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT HAS A WEALTH OF MORE KNOWLEDGE ON FIREWISE PROCEDURES THAN, THAN WE DO. SO, UH, I KIND OF VIEW IT AS IF, FOR SUSTAINABILITY AS EFFORTS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE, THAT, THAT MY GOAL IS TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT KIND OF ACT AS A HUB AND START PULLING ALL THOSE PEOPLE TOGETHER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF, UH, MOVE THOSE, THOSE ASPECTS FORWARD. BUT, UH, SOME OF IT HAS BEEN WITH THE FIRE FIRE DISTRICT, SOME OF IT'S ALSO WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON JUST HOW THE, THE CODE CAN HELP, UH, ENCOURAGE OR DISCOURAGE, UH, DIFFERENT USES WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING TO, TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. UH, AND SO I THINK SINCE THERE IS A, A LOT OF, UH, CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION, I THINK IT COULD FIT WELL WITHIN SUSTAINABILITY TO HELP KIND OF PULL ALL THOSE, THOSE FOLKS TOGETHER TO PURSUE IT. I MEAN, SOMEBODY HAS TO COORDINATE IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND ONE OF THE ACTIONS IS TO ESTABLISH A FORUM SUCH AS A WORK GROUP FOR SHARING AND CREATING INFORMATION ABOUT LIVING IN THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE THAT INCLUDES REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FOREST SERVICE GAME [04:00:01] AND FISH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, HOMEOWNERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. AND I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE THAT, UH, ONLY THE, UH, COTTAGES IS THE ONLY, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, RIGHT. THAT IS FIREWISE CONSIDERING WHERE WE LIVE AND OUR PRESENTATION, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU SAW FROM ALEX FROM, UH, THE US FOREST SERVICE YESTERDAY. SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO, UH, FOCUS ON THAT IN OUR PRIORITY LIST. 'CAUSE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DANGER, WILDFIRE DANGER, AND THE CONCERN THE FOREST SERVICE HAS. AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GROUP OF HOMEOWNERS FROM UPTOWN WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WILD FIRES AND EMERGENCY EVACUATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. I THINK, UM, RIGHT NOW FOR OUR, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, WE'VE BEEN, UM, ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO BUILD THAT OUT THROUGH THE AMERICORPS, UH, PROGRAM FROM THE, IT'S A, THE, THAT AMERICORPS POSITIONS TO KIND OF LABELED AS A, LIKE A CLIMATE RESILIENCY CAPACITY BUILDING, UH, POSITION. AND, UH, FROM THAT ASPECT, IT'S LIKE TRYING TO GET ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, PARTNERS TOGETHER AND ENCOURAGING IT. SO INITIALLY WE STARTED OUT WITH JUST TRYING TO GET FOLKS, UH, CONTINUING FAMILIARITY WITH THE KNOW YOUR ZONE, UH MM-HMM . ALL THE, THE, THE, THE COMMUNICATIONS COMPONENT ON SIGNING UP FOR DIFFERENT, UH, WITH THE, THE NIXLE SERVICES AND THE LIKE FOR THAT. UH, AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACT AS KIND OF JUST THAT, THAT HUB TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THOSE FOLKS TO IT, UH, IF THAT WAS COUNCIL'S, UH, DIRECTION TO BE ABLE TO PUT MORE EMPHASIS WITHIN THAT AND MORE COORDINATION THERE, UH, TO BE OPEN TO THAT FOR SURE, OBVIOUSLY. SO HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT? WHICH ASPECT OF THIS? HMM. ALL THE WHOLE PACKAGE OR SPECIFIC WELL, TO PUT, TO PUT EMPHASIS ON THAT, I MEAN, THERE'S NOBODY RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE CITY THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT'S LOOKING AT COORDINATING THOSE ACTIVITIES OR, I MEAN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, AND THAT'S ON KNOW YOUR ZONE AND, AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT NOT REALLY. OH, I'M SORRY TO PLEASE FINISH, SAY, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY OWN ALL OF THAT. CORRECT. UM, SO I THINK IF I'M HEARING YOU CO CORRECTLY VICE MAYOR, YOU'RE ASKING IF, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN PUSHING THIS ACTION ITEM. I THINK IT'S DS 25 AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN FORWARD AS A PRIORITY IN THE COMING YEAR. AND IF THAT'S AN INTEREST, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, COME BACK THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS WITH THE IDEA OF HOW, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, WHO WOULD BE THE LEAD, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE TEAM WOULD LOOK LIKE TO TRY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER TO MOVE THAT ACTION ITEM FORWARD. SO YEAH, AND THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM THAT ARE ACTION ITEMS THAT ALL FOCUS ON WILDFIRE RESILIENCY. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS TO IT. YEAH. BUT IF WILDFIRE RESILIENCY AS A HIGH LEVEL POLICY MATTER IS A PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL, UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY COME BACK WITH WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN PRACTICAL TERMS TO BEYOND EVACUATION PLANNING, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DONE, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GONNA SAY BECAUSE WE FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE EVACUATION, WHICH IS WHAT THE POLICE WORKSHOPS WERE ABOUT AS WELL, BUT IN TERMS OF PREVENTION, UM, WHICH WE HAVE SOME LIMITED INFORMATION IN THAT, THAT WE, WE DID AS TERMS OF THE EMERGENCY PLAN, UM, ASIDE FROM EVACUATION, BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME MORE, UH, THAT COULD BE DONE ABOUT THAT. BUT THE FIRE FIREWISE STUFF IN THE PAST, WHEN IT'S COME UNDER DISCUSSION FOR, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED, THERE'S BEEN CONTROVERSY AROUND THAT TOO BECAUSE ALTHOUGH, UM, ALTHOUGH THERE'S CERTAINLY A DESIRE TO MAKE THINGS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE, PART OF THE DRAW TO SEDONA AND THE BEAUTY OF IT IS THAT THERE'S SOME MATURE LANDSCAPING PEOPLE LIKE THEIR TREES. WE HAVE HEAT PROBLEMS, SO WE LIKE THE SHADE AS WELL. UM, WE HAVE CONFLICTING IDEOLOGIES ON THIS, SO IT, IT'S NOT EASY WHEN WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE THAT. SO, SO JUST TO JUMP IN, I, I LIVE IN A HIGH RISK AREA BECAUSE I BORDER ONTO THE FOREST. AND UM, SO I HAD BRIAN FROM WHO DOES FIREWISE, UH, FOR THE SEDONA CAME OUT. HE RAN THROUGH MY LANDSCAPE, TOLD ME ALL THE THINGS I NEEDED TO DO. THEY SEND YOU A REPORT, IT'S ALL REALLY GREAT. AND THEN IF YOU DO EVERYTHING, THEY'LL COME [04:05:01] BACK OUT AND THEY'LL BASICALLY, IF YOU'VE DONE WHAT THEY TOLD YOU TO DO, THEY WILL SEND YOU A LETTER THAT CERTIFIES THAT YOU'RE AS FIREWISE AS YOU CAN BE GIVEN WHERE YOU LIVE. RIGHT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT TO DO THAT FOR THE WHOLE, UM, HOA, EVERYONE HAS TO WANT TO DO IT, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO AND CUT THE BRUSH AND REMOVE THE BRUSH AND, YOU KNOW, OR PAY SOMEONE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET RID OF ALL, HOPEFULLY RESPONSIBLY, GET RID OF ALL OF THE, THE WOOD WASTE AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU'VE GOT THE LANDSCAPE MATERIAL WASTE. AND YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA WAIT FOR ONCE A YEAR WHEN WE COME AND PICK IT UP AT YOUR CORNER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEONE IF YOU WANNA GET RID OF IT RESPONSIBLY. SO IT BECOMES DIFFICULT WHEN YOU BRING IT UP TO THE HOA WHERE EVERYONE GOES, WELL, BUT I'M PART-TIME. I DON'T REALLY LIVE HERE ALL THE TIME, OR WHATEVER THE REASON MAY BE. SO I THINK THE, THE FIREWISE, WHICH FIREWISE IS A PROGRAM, RIGHT? IT'S A, IT'S A TRADEMARK NAME, UM, REQUIRES A LOT MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, INSPECTION. YEAH. NOT JUST THE INSPECTION, BUT IT REQUIRES MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, BRYCE AND HIS TEAM COMING OUT AND SAYING, HEY, LET'S DO A HOA REVIEW OF WHAT IT MEANS TO, TO DO THE FIREWISE. YOU'VE, IT'S, IT'S REAL ACTION ON THE PART OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO GET THAT FIREWISE DESIGNATION. AND, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU GET THE PUSHBACK. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MATURE LANDSCAPE. IT'S, WELL, I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT FIREWISE SPECIFICALLY. I'M TALKING ABOUT LIV CLIMATE RESILIENCY WORKSHOPS WE'RE DOING, HOW ABOUT WILDFIRE RESILIENCY, YOU KNOW, ARE JUST A WORKSHOP. YES. SOMEBODY TO COORDINATE WITHIN THE CITY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHOEVER ELSE ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS. THE FOREST SERVICE, WILDLIFE PREVENTION AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OR NOT AS A, NOT PUSHING A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY EDUCATION. UM, 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THE TOPIC IN DIFFERENT WAYS. SO THIS IS JUST LIKE A, TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A COMING TOGETHER TO DO A VERY COORDINATED OR TARGETED AND, UH, INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP LIKE CRAZY. AND THERE ARE POTENTIALLY THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULD DO TO BETTER THEIR SITUATION IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO, UH, AND LOWER THEIR PREMIUMS AND PROTECT THEMSELVES. SO WHERE, WHERE IS THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE? THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M SAYING. AND, AND HOW DOES IT GET PUSHED OUT? MM-HMM . UH, JUST TO, TO TO ADD THERE. SO AMY IS, UH, SO SHE'S WORKING ON A FOOD SYSTEMS WORKSHOP IN THE SPRING AND ALSO WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET A ONE IN MARCH THAT WOULD BE MORE TO THE, THE FIREWISE ORIENTED WORKSHOP. AND THE, THE IDEA OF IT FOR MARCH IS THAT IF WE CAN KIND OF PREEMPT IT IN THAT MARCH TIMEFRAME, IT CAN START GETTING FOLKS, UH, TO KIND OF GEAR UP FOR THE YARD WASTE COLLECTION THAT THEN HAPPENS THERE IN APRIL OR SO, JUST, UH, AS A INITIAL STEP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. SO, I APOLOGIZE, I MISUNDERSTOOD WHERE YOU WERE GOING. 'CAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP, YOU, YOU BROUGHT UP THE FIREWISE DESIGNATION IS VERY HARD TO GET. UM, SO I, I AGREE. WE, WE DO LIVE IN THIS, THIS, UH, WILD FIRE OR ACTUALLY FOREST FIRE DESIGNATED AREA. UM, I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT, UM, THEY'VE, INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE DROPPED THEM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT FEMA PUT US INTO HIGH RISK, UM, FOR FIRE. THAT WAS OUR, THE RED AND THE ES KNIGHTS PROGRAM. SO ANYTHING I THINK WE CAN DO TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITUATION IS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO, TO HELP. I, I THINK WOULD I AGREE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. DID YOU, YOU WERE REFERRING, SORRY, YOU WERE REFERRING BACK TO, I, I SAW IN THE PLAN, BUT ALSO IT'S ADDRESSED ON PAGE 85 OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A RE REQUEST IN THERE FROM WHEN THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER. IT WAS INCLUDED TO INCREASE COMMUNITY CAPACITY AND AWARENESS OF CLIMATE CHANGE RISKS AND TO IDENTIFY AND TARGET SUPPORT FOR AT-RISK POPULATIONS, UM, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY WOULD SUPPORT THAT. IT'S, IT'S FUNNY GOING BACK TO THE FIREWISE PORTION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS WILL PUSH BACK. I'VE SEEN THEM PUSH BACK BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE FIREWISE 'CAUSE THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL A HUNDRED YEAR OLD TREES. AND IT ALL HAS TO, AND THAT MAP AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS VERY, VERY CLEAR OF THE AMOUNT OF RUSSIA IT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED. YOU CAN'T GET INSURANCE. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, COUNCILOR [04:10:01] DUNN, YOU LIVE IN AN HOA, WHAT HAPPENS TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT IN AN HOA AND THEY'RE JUST IN A NEIGHBORHOOD? DO YOU KNOW? WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW? EVERY RESIDENT HAS TO BE PART OF IT AS WELL FOR, FOR FI YOU, FOR FIREWISE. YES. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM HAVING GONE AND LOOKED AT THE PROGRAM AND THERE'S MANY PEOPLE WHO, WHO PUT OUT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE PROGRAM. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT HAS THAT IF YOU'RE IN AN HOA OR YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAS TO BE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE, TO BE DESIGNATED A FIREWISE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE SEPARATE, SEPARATE CERTIFICATIONS IF YOU ARE FIREWISE, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL GIVE YOU WHEN THEY GIVE YOU THAT LETTER THAT SAYS YOU'VE, YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF ALL THE, THE, YOU'VE MITIGATED, UM, YOUR DEFENSIBLE SPACE, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, AND, AND THEN FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO BACK UP ONTO THE FOREST, THIS IS WHAT ALEX WAS TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU BACK UP ONTO THE FOREST OR YOU BACK UP ONTO GREEN SPACE THAT'S OWNED BY ANOTHER HOA, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS TO GO IN AND REMOVE ALL THE STUFF THEY PROBABLY WANT YOU TO REMOVE FOR DEFENSIBLE SPACE. SO IT IS VERY COMPLICATED AND IT IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S IN YOUR AREA. AND AGAIN, TO THE POINT OF AT LEAST RAISING AWARENESS THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE AND THE DEFENSIBLE SPACE AROUND THEM AND WHY THEY MAY BE HAVING PROBLEMS. 'CAUSE INSURANCE IS NOT JUST GOING UP. I'VE HAD PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BE REFUSED INSURANCE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT ON THE FOREST SERVICE LAND. SO IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM. AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A CITY TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS AND HELP PEOPLE MITIGATE THE SITUATION, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU, BRYCE. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR, OUR ONGOING, UH, PROGRAMS AT THE MOMENT. AND THEN I WILL, UH, TOUCH ON SOME OF OUR UPCOMING PROJECTS. UH, AND SO WE'RE, UH, LOOKING TO HOST A SECOND ANNUAL, UH, WORLD WATER DAY, UH, THAT WE BUILT OFF OF WITH OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL IN ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, UH, LAST YEAR. UH, AND THEN, UH, ACTUALLY COMING UP, UH, THIS SUNDAY AS WELL AS, UH, A MONDAY IS, UH, A REALLY COOL THING THAT, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH DRIVE ELECTRIC, ARIZONA. UH, THEY, UM, IT'S A NON-PROFIT IN ARIZONA. WE WERE CONNECTED THROUGH THEM THROUGH A COHORT THAT WE PARTICIPATED IN THROUGH THE WORLD RESOURCE INSTITUTE AND THE DEPARTMENT, UH, OF ENERGY SPONSORS IT. UM, AND THE DRIVE ELECTRIC ARIZONA IS GONNA HAVE A RIDE AND DRIVE EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON SUNDAY. UH, THAT IS COMMUNITY FOCUSED. SO IF YOU WANNA HOP IN AN EV OR DRIVE AROUND IN ONE OR WHATNOT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT. AND WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE IT. AND THEN ON MONDAY THE 16TH IS A MUNICIPAL, UH, FACING ONE FOR CITY STAFF, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE VEHICLES, UH, RIDE AROUND, ASK QUESTIONS, GET SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK BEFORE FULLY GOING DOWN THAT PROCESS AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION. SO, UH, REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT ONE. THAT ONE, UH, WAS ABLE TO BE BROUGHT UP THROUGH A, A COHORT WE WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. UH, ADDITIONALLY TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE, THE ASPECTS THAT, UH, I THINK COUNCILS TOUCHED ON BEFORE IS THAT AS WE WENT THROUGH, IS IT TWO YEARS AGO NOW, UH, WITH THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND MAPPING AND, UH, HEAT RECOMMENDATION GUIDEBOOK THAT WE, UH, CREATED SHORTLY THEREAFTER IS THIS, UH, NATURE OF JUST HOW DO WE GET ADDITIONAL MESSAGING OUT FOR NOT ONLY OUR, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT FOR OUR VISITORS. UH, AND SO WE'RE COLLABORATING, UH, WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS AND TOURISM, UH, FOR HEAT PREPAREDNESS, UH, MESSAGING ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. HOW DO WE GET THAT, UH, INFORMATION OUT EFFECTIVELY SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE OUT ON THE TRAILS AND IT'S MIDDLE OF JUNE AND 102 OUT OR WHATNOT, THAT, UH, THEY CAN, UH, HAVE THE, THE RESOURCES, THE TOOLS NEEDED FOR, FOR THEM TO HAVE A, UH, A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE VERSUS, UH, RESCUES BEING CALLED OUT AND THE LIKE FOR IT. SO IT'S ONE ELEMENT OF THE, THE CLIMATE ADAPTATION, UH, PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE RESILIENCE COMPONENT TO IT. UM, AND THEN, UH, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE JIS MAP, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT COMPONENT AS WELL. UH, ZACH IS, UH, COLLABORATING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON A, UH, POTENTIAL COOL PAVEMENT, UH, PILOT PROJECT. SO THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED, UH, DURA SHIELD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT HAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COLORING, UH, COLOR OPTIONS. AND SO WE'RE KIND OF EVALUATING THOSE, UH, FOR PRICE QUOTES PROPOSALS TO TRY TO DO A TEST SITE OF, UH, IF IT, HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS FOR A, A COOLING MECHANISM, UH, FOR, UH, CLIMATE ADAPTATION. AND LIKE THAT IS, UH, WAS BROUGHT UP AND HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, CLIMATE MAPPING REPORT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD. AND BRYCE, ARE YOU, UH, LEAST PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL THE WORK GOING DOWN IN THE VALLEY ABOUT THIS? THEY'VE HAD SOME NEGATIVE EXPERIE LEARNING EXPERIENCES AND WHATNOT. YEAH, SO WE'RE, UH, VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT. AND WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION IN, TRY TO FIND THAT KIND OF NUANCE TO IT. 'CAUSE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE INITIAL, UH, REPORT OR, UH, STUDIES I'VE SEEN, WE'LL SAY, LIKE POTENTIALLY YOU HAVE, UH, UH, [04:15:01] WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A A, A PAVEMENT SURFACING, THE INITIAL TEMPERATURE DIRECTLY OFF THAT PAVEMENT IS, SAY LIKE 140, 150 DEGREES STARTS, UH, RISING DRASTICALLY. THEN YOU PUT THE, THE CEILING ON IT, IT KIND OF WILL REFLECT THAT UP HIGHER. AND SO THEN THE SURFACE ITSELF IS A LITTLE BIT COOLER, BUT THEN ABOUT FIVE TO SIX FEET ABOVE IT, THEN IT'S A LITTLE BIT WARMER. SO THEN THE PERSON THAT'S WALKING THROUGH IT IS EXPERIENCING IT. SO, UH, THERE'S STILL, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME NUANCE TO IT. SO IT'S, IT'S ONE MECHANISM FOR, TO TRY TO, UM, TRY TO IDENTIFY A HEAT REC A MITIGATION TECHNIQUE. I DON'T, THAT'S THE ASPECT OF US TRYING TO PILOT IT AND LEARN FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES TO SEE, UH, THE PLUS AND MINUSES TO IT. UH, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONALLY IS JUST LIKE WHEN WE, WHEN WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH, UH, FOR SHARED USE PATHS AND THE LIKE AND COLLABORATION WITH, WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, IS THAT IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE NATURE-BASED, UH, SOLUTIONS IMPLEMENTED INTO 'EM SO THAT WE HAVE MORE SHADE TREES IN CERTAIN AREAS AND THE LIKE, THAT CAN KIND OF HAVE THAT SAME EFFECT THAT MIGHT NOT NEED, UH, THE FULL ON PAVEMENT SURFACING THAT WE MIGHT BE APPLICABLE IN ONE WAY. IN THE OTHER, UH, ALSO HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS JUST, UH, LIKE, UH, WAS IT THE FRICTION COEFFICIENTS AND THE, LIKE, THAT MIGHT CHANGE. UH, SO IF WE DO GET ICE, HOW'S THAT, UH, VARY VERSUS THE FOLKS DOWN IN PHOENIX? SO THERE'S, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS FOR US TO GO THROUGH IT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO BITE OFF A, A BIG CHUNK AND JUMP INTO IT THERE. SOME DURABILITY AND ADHESION ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. MM-HMM . BRYCE, THE, UH, INVASIVE SPECIES TRAINING, UH, BULLET, IS THAT JUST FOCUSED ON RIPARIAN CORRIDORS OR IS THAT BROADLY THE, OUR COMMUNITY? UH, THE, THE, THE GOAL WOULD BE BROADLY OUR COMMUNITY. 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A DISTINCT CHANGE IN VEGETATION BETWEEN A RIPARIAN AREA AND THEN SOME OF OUR UPLAND UH, ENVIRONMENTS. SO THE, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO GET, UH, UH, TRAINING RESOURCES THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THE SEDONA AREA, BUT HAS THAT NUANCE BETWEEN RIP PERRY AND CORRIDORS AND LIKE EVELYN AREAS. AND SORRY IF YOU ALREADY SAID IT, BUT THE TRAINING IS ACTUALLY LIKE FOR YOUR TEAM. SO INITIALLY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, PARTNERING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA'S PEST MANAGEMENT CENTER TO BE ABLE TO HOST THE TRAINING. AND OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF OUR STAFF AND NO CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL AND LIKE FRIENDS OF THE VERDE RIVER AND WHATNOT, INVITED TO IT, AND THEN BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN BE ABLE TO, TO SET UP ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF PASS, WE PASSED THIS INFORMATION ALONG FOR IT BASED OFF OF THE, THE SCALE AND THE AVAILABILITY WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. OKAY. SO FORGET THE, FORGIVE THE PUN, BUT SORT OF PET PROJECT. YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS OFF LEASH DOGS ARE LIKE THE NUMBER ONE SUPER SPREADER OF INVASIVE NON-NATIVE SPECIES. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS DOGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON LEASHES, PERIOD, NO EXCEPTIONS. AND MY TRAIL EXPERIENCES, IT'S A 50 50 CRAPSHOOT OF WHETHER THE OWNER'S GONNA HAVE THEIR DOG ON A LEASH. SO DOES ANY OF THIS LEAD TO ADDRESSING THAT PROBLEM AND RECOGNIZING THAT THE PROBLEM I'M SEEING ON TRAILS, IT'S ON FOREST SERVICE LAND, BUT JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT? THERE'S DEFINITELY A COMPONENT TO IT. UH, 'CAUSE AS YOU SAID, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ONE ASPECT OF IT'S THE PLANET ITSELF, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, HOW DID IT GET THERE? UH, AND SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE BOTH OF 'EM. IT'S LIKE, IF IT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND IN YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY OR YOUR RIGHT OF WAY OR WHATNOT, IT'S LIKE, WELL, THESE ARE THE METHODS TO, TO GET RID OF IT AND THAT, OR TO MITIGATE IT. AND THEN ON THE FRONT END, IT'S LIKE SETTING UP SEC UH, SECTIONS AND RESOURCE MATERIALS. I'M LIKE, THIS IS WHY IT'S GETTING TO THIS AREA. HERE'S EDUCATION INFORMATION. AND TO NOT DO THAT, UM, OUR, OUR, UH, FRIENDS AT OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL, UH, WILL DO A TABLING EVENT. UH, AND THE, THE, THEY'LL ROUTINELY GET A COMMENT THAT GETS BROUGHT UP WHERE IT'S LIKE, I DON'T REALLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY DOG WASTE. UH, COYOTES, UH, ARE OUT ON THE TRAIL TOO, AND THEY HAVE WASTE AS WELL. THERE'S, THERE'S NO BIG DEAL WITH IT. BUT OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL, UH, THROUGH THEIR, UH, THEIR STUDIES AND THEIR BACKGROUND AND WHATNOT, GET TO CONVEY THIS MESSAGE JUST LIKE, NO, OUR DOG WASTE HAS, YOU CAN'T COMPOST YOUR OWN DOG WASTE. LIKE, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE OR WHATNOT, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IT. SO BEING ABLE TO SHARE THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OF JUST LIKE, WHY IT IS, UH, PERTINENT FOR IT. AND, UH, A DQ, UH, AS WELL WITHIN, UH, OAK CREEK, UH, THE CLEANUP EVENTS AND THE, LIKE, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT ASPECT AND THEIR MESSAGING AS WELL OF HAVING LIKE A DOG WASTE PLAN AND THE LIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY SOURCES OF, OF, UM, POLLUTANTS AND WHATNOT, E COLI GETTING INTO THE, THE, THE CREEK ITSELF. UH, SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY OVERLAP IN HOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT EFFECTIVELY. THANK YOU. BUT BRYCE, TO TAG ONTO THAT, HOW DO THEY DEAL WITH THE COYOTE WASTE AND DEER WASTE? AND, I MEAN, NO ONE'S PICKING THAT UP. IT'S, UH, SO WITH OUR, WITH [04:20:01] THE DOG WASTE, ESSENTIALLY, IT'S LIKE ALL OF THE, THE, THE CHEMICALS, ALL OF THE, THE PRODUCTS THAT, UH, THAT ARE IN OUR HOUSEHOLDS AND, AND THE, LIKE, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S INGESTED. YEAH. IT'S JUST THE, THAT NATURE OF, OF THE, THE DOG WASTE IS DIFFERENT THAN, SAY, A COYOTE IN THE LIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE NATURAL. THEY'RE EATING BRANCHES, LEAVES, AND SUCH. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT MAKES SENSE. MM-HMM . CONTINUE ON. OKAY. UH, AND THEN, UH, TOUCH ON, I THINK THIS WILL TOUCH ON AN EARLIER POINT THAT, UH, COUNCIL WAS DISCUSSING AS WELL IS JUST, UH, WITH THE SHARED USE PASS AND THE, LIKE, AS THE, THE NATURE OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HELP INCORPORATE HERE UPCOMING IS JUST ADDITIONAL, UH, SHADE STRUCTURES AND WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATIONS AND THE LIKE. SO IT'S A, A FUNCTION OF OUR MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS. AND SO, UH, BE EXPANDING THAT COLLABORATION WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS COLLEAGUES, UH, TO SEE HOW WE CAN IN INTEGRATE THOSE, UH, WHERE POSSIBLES PRICE, HOW DO YOU FORESEE A WATER BOTTLE FILL STATION IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHARED USE PATH WITH NO WATER SUPPLIED NEARBY? THE COST FOR RUNNING THAT WATER PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HAVE TO DO TO DO, OH, THAT'S SANDY. OKAY. YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR ME, I GUESS . YEAH. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ON DRY CREEK, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STUB AND, UH, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY RIGHT AT THE TWO FENCES TRAILHEAD, AND WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING A WATER BOTTLE FILL STATION IN THERE. AND SO GOT THE TRAILHEAD, I GET. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, THE SHARED USE PATHS THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND FEET DIS DISTANCE. IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT ON THE SHARED USE PATH. IT'S NORTH OF THE, UH, THE WATER PINCH POINT. YEAH. BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. SO, UM, AND THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT AND, AND OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY HAS BEEN SUPER GOOD, UH, PARTNERING. SO, AND WHO'S PAYING THAT BILL? IS THERE A METER ON THOSE? ARE THEY NOT? WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, UH, A WIN-WIN, I'M SURE IT WILL BE. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GET BACK ON MY PONY ABOUT, THIS IS ALSO ABOUT URBAN PLANNING AND ABOUT DESIGN, NOT JUST ABOUT INSTALLATIONS. AND I'M HOPING THAT ASSUMING WE STILL HAVE SOME PLANNERS SOMEWHERE, UM, IN STEVE'S ORGANIZATION, THAT WE'RE INCLUDING THEM IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE, UH, OVERALL STRATEGY, UM, AROUND WHERE THEY GO, WHY THEY GO IN THOSE PARTICULAR PLACES WHEN YOU GO TO BUILD THEM. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ARIZONA WATER GOING FORWARD, IF IT'S A GREAT WIN-WIN, UM, THAT THEY CAN ALSO THEN PUT THAT INTO THEIR PLANNING AS PART, AS PART OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THE WATER PIPES TO, TO THESE FILL STATIONS. SO I'M, AGAIN, I'M JUST THINKING THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE A BIG BROAD ASPECT TO IT ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING URBAN TRAIL PLANNING, BASICALLY. AND, UM, AGAIN, MY PONY, I'LL NOW GET OFF MY PONY. SO, UH, YEAH, SO I THINK THE ONLY, THE, JUST THE ONE LITTLE LAST TOUCH POINT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT ON THAT IS JUST THE ASPECT WHERE ALL THESE THINGS, AS, AS, AS COUNCILS WERE AWARE, WELL AWARE OF IS JUST BUILDING, BUILDING OUT THE, THE CAPACITY AND THE COLLABORATION POINTS WITH IT. UH, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE GET ONE STATION IN OR ONE BIKE RACK IN OR WHATNOT, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A ONE AND DONE, UH, KIND OF COMPONENT. IT'S JUST BEING ABLE TO INTEGRATE THOSE. AND THAT'S OUR, OUR GOAL, UH, WITH OUR, UH, OUR PARTNERS IN PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND THE LIKE, IS TO BUILD THOSE, THOSE, THOSE UH, PROCESSES IN PLACE. ALRIGHT, LASTLY IS JUST TO TOUCH ON THE CIP PROJECTS WE HAVE HERE FOR FY 25 FOR THE STREETLIGHT LUMINATORS. UH, SO THAT'S A, A RETROFITTING. SO ESSENTIALLY THE HOUSING STAYS THE SAME, THE LUMINARY COMES OUT, NEW LUMINARY GOES IN, UH, THE BALLAST THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM ALSO GETS TO BE REMOVED. UH, WE, UH, PURCHASED THE LUMINARIES LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND WE JUST GOT THROUGH THE QUOTES FOR, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, AND SHOULD BE COMING IN UNDER THAT, UH, 80,000 BUDGET THERE IN FY 25, UH, TO MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD. SO OPTIMISTIC ON THAT. AND, UH, ANTICIPATED TIMELINE FOR INSTALLATION IS STILL, UH, LATER THIS YEAR, EARLY, UH, PART OF NEXT YEAR. UH, JUST A QUICK UPDATE FOR THE DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP PIECE. UH, YOU TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT ON THE EV CHARGERS. APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S, UH, APPROVAL FOR THOSE ONES. UH, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HVAC PIECE. UH, ONE, ONE CHANGE, UH, FROM PAST DISCUSSIONS IS THAT WE ARE INITIALLY TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE PHASE TWO, UH, DESIGN AND PLANNING, UH, PIECE DONE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, JUST TO ESSENTIALLY ALIGN OUR PROCUREMENT TIMELINES MORE EFFECTIVELY, UH, AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A, A SOUND APPROACH, UH, GOING INTO THAT. UH, WE DECIDED TO MOVE THE, THE PLANNING AND DESIGN ELEMENT TO THE, THE START OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR, UH, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, UH, FOR THAT. SO, UH, AND THEN THE CITY, UH, WINDOW AND DOOR REPLACEMENT, UH, WERE, UH, FOUND, UH, LARRY AND, UH, WAS ABLE TO FIND A VENDOR FOR THE WINDOWS. AND WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, BEING, GETTING, BEING ABLE TO SEND OUT, UH, RFP POSSIBLY THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR. AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, [04:25:01] THAT'S ALL. UH, WE HAVE SU SUPPORTING COMMUNITY CONTRACTS AS WELL, UH, WITH SEDONA RECYCLES, UH, BEING THE, THE, UH, PRIMARY, UH, ONE WITH THAT, UM, IS, AND SEDONA RECYCLES HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL ON A NUMBER OF THINGS FROM OUR FOOD WASTE, UH, COLLECTION EVENTS AND THE LIKE. AND SO I, I CAN'T, UH, THANK SEDONA RECYCLES ENOUGH FOR BEING, WANTING TO PARTICIPATE WITH US ON A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS. UM, AND TOTAL COMMUNITY CONTRACTS IS A LITTLE UNDER TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILLION OR SO. AND AGAIN, THAT'S TOTAL ACROSS THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION. AND THIS SEDONA RECYCLES IS THAT 10%. HOW IS SEDONA RECYCLES DOING? UH, THEY'VE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'VE BEEN HANGING IN THERE ON ON A LOT ASPECTS. THEY, THEY STILL HAVE, UH, THE ISSUES WITH LIKE DROP OFF, UH, LOCATIONS AND THEY GET FOLKS THAT ARE DROPPING OFF MATERIALS THAT ARE NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO RECYCLABLE, BUT THEY JUST VIEW IT AS LIKE, I'M GETTING RID OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. SO, UM, THERE'S ASPECTS OF LIKE MESSAGING. I THINK THEY APPLIED, I DON'T FORGOT IF THEY GOT THE GRANT OR NOT, BUT THEY APPLIED FOR A DQ GRANT FOR ASSISTANCE ON THE MESSAGING PIECE WITH IT. UM, SO FROM, I THINK THEY'RE, FOR THE OVERALL, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE HANGING IN FROM MY PERCEPTION. YIKES. AND OUTSIDE OF THAT LAST CON UH, LAST SLIDE, I THINK I HAD. THANK YOU. AWESOME. BACK ONE WE NEED TO ADVANCE, GO FORWARD ONE, STILL STAY HERE. STRADDLING THIS. THANK YOU. WE ROTATE CHAIR RAISES. YEAH. OKAY, GO AHEAD. THAT WAS VERY ENERGY EFFICIENT, . THERE WE GO. UM, SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT HAVE COME UP. UM, SO PART OF MY JOB IN ADDITION TO THE SHARED USE PASS IS THE STORM DRAIN. AND SINCE OUR SIGNIFICANT FLOOD IN 2009 WHERE CARS WERE FLOATING, UM, WE'VE DONE SIGNIFICANT WORK. AND SO STORM DRAIN, WE CONTINUE TO NICK AT IT WITH THE HELP OF YAVAPAI COUNTY. AND, UM, WE ARE AUDITED BY A, UM, ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES. WE'VE PASSED BOTH OF THOSE AUDITS WITH FLYING COLORS. UM, OUR TEAM, UM, WE DO CONSISTENT TESTING OF THE STORM DRAIN THAT RUNS INTO OAK CREEK. AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A CONCERN AND AN EXCEEDANCE, BUT, UM, WE CONDUCTED SOME TESTING WHERE OAK CREEK ENTERS THE CITY LIMITS AND EXITS THE CITY LIMITS, AND WE VERIFIED THERE'S NOT AN INCREASE IN CONTAMINANTS. SO THE 230 SQUARE MILES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OAK CREEK, UM, IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CONTAMINANTS ARE COMING FROM. SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING THAT. SO WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AT, UM, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO, UM, SOME, A PORTION OF OUR BUDGET IS WITH THE HELP OF YAVAPAI, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH COCONINO. SO, UM, JUST REAL QUICK. SO HERE ARE SOME OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE NICKING ON, BACK O BEYOND HAS BEEN, UM, A GREAT IMPROVEMENT ON THAT CROSSING AND THEN SCHLEY GROVE. UM, AND WE DID SOME SMALL IMPROVEMENTS THERE, AND THEN WE'VE DONE THE OVERALL MAPPING IMPROVEMENTS. UM, AND I KNOW THAT EACH YEAR IN BUDGET WE GET TO SHARE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, DOG POO WE PICK UP FROM THE DOG STATIONS, WHICH IS TONS AND TONS AND TONS. SO AGAIN, UM, THANKS TO OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT ACTUALLY PICKS UP ALL THAT AND WEIGHS IT FOR US. UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON, UM, IS WE'VE BEEN REQUESTING DEVELOPMENT TO START INCLUDING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. SO MY BIG PUSH IN SOME OF THE ARTICLES THAT I'VE BEEN DOING IN THE, UM, CITY TALK IS KEEPING THE WATER ON THE ROCK. I AM TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS TO STOP, UM, PUTTING PAVERS AND CONCRETE OVER THEIR ENTIRE LOT. I'M TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO WELLS AROUND THEIR TREES SO THAT IT SOAKS IN AND THAT WE REPLENISH THE AQUIFER. UM, AGAIN, WE TEAM A GREAT DEAL WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY. YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THOSE PRESENTATIONS. THE WATER TABLE IS HOLDING PRETTY GOOD, BUT I WANNA CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR STORM WATER THAT COMES FROM THE SKY, GET INTO THE GROUND, WHICH IS WHERE OUR PUMPS ARE THAT PULL IT OUT. SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IN FY 26 IS POSSIBLY INVESTIGATING SOME LOW IMPACT [04:30:01] DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS WE'VE BEEN REQUESTING AND ENCOURAGING LIKE, UM, GRASS CREEK, UH, PAVERS THAT HAVE AREAS TO HELP GET IT INTO THE GROUND, BUT STILL HAVE THAT SURFACE. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE THAT IN THIS NEXT COMING YEAR. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. SANDY, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU? WE HAD A, OR ANDY, WERE BOTH, UH, STORM WATER PLAN, MASTER PLAN. RIGHT. AND I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT WE BASICALLY COMPLETED ALL THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FROM THAT. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF STORMWATER MASTER PLANS COMPLETED. NOW, THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS JUST, UH, LAST 2, 2 23 LAST, UH, LAST YEAR MM-HMM . AND SO WE DID REESTABLISH SOME NEW PRIORITIES AND WE'RE WORKING FORWARD ON SOME OF THOSE. UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE A COUPLE OF MASTER PLANS IN ON THAT. SO WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER ONE. OR YOU HAVE, YOU CAN SELECT PRIORITIES BASED ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS SINCE 2009, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THE BIG FLOOD HIT THAT SANDY REFERRED TO THE CITY REALLY PRIORITIZED STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE MOST OF THE BIG IMPROVEMENTS ARE, ARE COMPLETE. SO I THINK THERE'S A SHIFT NOW IN LOOKING AT SMALLER PROJECTS, SMALLER DRAINAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, AND AS WELL AS COUPLING, AGAIN, PRIORITIES. SO LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE NEEDS FOR SERGE'S PATH AND FLOOD, FLOOD ISSUES THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED OR PAVING WITH FLOOD IMPROVEMENT, THAT SORT OF THING. UM, SO WE, WE'VE, WE'VE SORT OF EVOLVED INTO THE NEXT LEVEL OF HOW WE COMPLETE STORMWATER PROJECTS. HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. SO, UH, ANDY, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE NEWER PROJECTS CENTER, SANDY, UH, KACHINA, IS IT, IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR? IMPROVEMENTS THERE? YES. WELL, RIGHT, IT'S, WE'RE JUMPING ON IT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL. SO WE'RE GONNA STUDY IT AND I, WE FEEL THAT IT'S SMALL ENOUGH WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THIS FISCAL YEAR. EXCELLENT. AND THEN YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN OF GETTING WATER, UH, TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFERS AND WHATNOT. SO WHAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION, JUST MORE BROADLY TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS MAYBE COMES THROUGH BRYCE'S DEPARTMENT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY? 'CAUSE LIKE I'M THINKING ABOUT, I'VE GOT A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR THAT IS A PART YEAR RESIDENT THAT IS DOING AN OVER THE TOP COMPLETE REHAB OF THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY MOVING WATER OFF THE PROPERTY. MM-HMM . NOT LOOKING TO RETAIN IT. MM-HMM . FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, HELP . I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT. 'CAUSE I, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN DOING ARTICLES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THAT. AND SO WE'LL PROBABLY REACH OUT MORE WITH LAUREN AND BRYCE TO DO THAT EDUCATION. GO AHEAD. BEYOND THE EDUCATION THOUGH, I WOULD JUST GO BACK TO CODE COMPLIANCE. MM-HMM . SO, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE, ONE PART OF THAT IS JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CONSERVE WATER AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS YOU CAN'T INCREASE STORMWATER OUTFLOW FROM YOUR PROPERTY BEYOND HISTORIC CONDITIONS. SO IF, IF A NEIGHBOR, FOR INSTANCE, IS DIVERTING FLOW, IF, IF, IF THERE USED TO BE A SHEET FLOW CONDITION THAT, YOU KNOW, WATER PASSED THROUGH A LOT FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, AND NOW THEY'VE TAKEN THAT AND CONCENTRATED IT AND PUT IT ON AN OUTFLOW TO A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE PARCEL TO, TO MY PROPERTY, YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ACTUALLY ILLEGAL. AND SO I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE THAT YOU CONTACT OUR STORMWATER FOLKS, SANDY, UH, IS IN CHARGE OF THEM, AND HAVE THEM TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS, IS ACTUALLY CODE COMPLIANT OR NOT. AND WE JUST STRENGTHENED OUR ORDINANCE AND THE CODE LAST YEAR YEAH. TO MAKE THAT, UH, MORE, MORE CLEAR. ANOTHER THING I, I, I JUST WANNA STRESS, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. LID HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT'S, IT'S A, A DECENT IDEA, BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN A CITY THAT'S ALL BUILT ON ROCK AND THERE'S ROCK FISSURES AND THIS VERY CITY HALL PROPERTY IS ON ROCK, AND WE'VE HAD TO DIG TRENCHES AROUND CITY HALL TO CAPTURE THAT WATER, TO KEEP IT OUT OF OUR, OUR BASEMENT, FOR INSTANCE. WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THAT WATER [04:35:01] IN THE GROUND 'CAUSE IT POPS UP SOMEWHERE ELSE SOMETIMES AND SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU DON'T WANT IT TO SOMETIMES. SO JUST GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH THAT. SO ANDY OR SANDY, UM, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU DID SOME MAJOR, UH, STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE THE, THE, UH, BIG PROJECT BEHIND LOCK OF HOCKEY YEAH. AND SOME OTHER PLACES AROUND TOWN. ARE YOU FINDING THAT THEY HAVE ALL HELD PRETTY WELL AND DIVERTED THAT WATER? CI MEAN, NOTHING'S PERFECT. STORM WATER JUST COMES IN WHATEVER DIRECTION IT'S GONNA GO, BUT THOSE, UH, PROJECTS WERE AMAZING AND WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, UH, YOU DID THE WORK BEHIND THE LOCK OF POCKET WAS TERRIBLE. SO I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY WHAT YOU'VE DONE. HOW IS IT WORKING? YEAH, I MEAN, SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, YOU KNOW, THE HARMONY, DRAINAGE, UH, COFFEE POT, DRAINAGE, SOLDIER WASH, DRAINAGE, THOSE ARE ALL, UM, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS THAT WE COMPLETED. AND ALL POST 2009 WHEN WE HAD THE BIG FLOOD EVENT. SINCE THEN, WE'VE, WE'VE TESTED THOSE FACILITIES WITH SOME DECENT STORM EVENTS, BUT NOTHING LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN 2009. HAVING SAID THAT, UM, WE'VE ONLY HAD MINOR NUISANCE ISSUES. MM-HMM . WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING, UH, AS FAR AS PROBLEMS AT THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE SAW IN 2009. SO OVERALL, I WOULD SAY OUR IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL MONEY WELL SPENT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT IS THE LAST ELEMENT UNDER THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY GOAL. SO JUST A QUICK PAUSE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FINAL, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY FINAL, BUT SOME, ANY WRAP UP THOUGHTS FROM THE COUNCIL BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GOAL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ECONOMY AND TOURISM. SO, BUT AGAIN, AS I SAID THIS MORNING, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, TOMORROW IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING RELATED TO ANY OF THESE SCHOOLS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE TABLE. BUT, UM, I THINK WE HEARD PRETTY CLEARLY ABOUT THE WILDFIRE RESILIENCY, INTEREST, UM, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. SO IF YOU'RE GOOD, THEN OKAY. I THINK, WE'LL COUNCIL SEEMS, APPEARS TO BE GOOD. SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY WE, WE'VE KIND OF LIKE LAID IT OUT ON THE TABLE AS WE'VE BEEN GOING. GREAT. THANK YOU, BRYCE. FEEL BETTER. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. SO WE JUST HAVE TO FIND THE CORRECT STARTING SLIDE FOR ECONOMY AND TOURISM BECAUSE IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. IT WAS ORIGINALLY WHAT PAGE? UH, WHAT IS IT? THANK YOU. THANKS BRYCE. THANK YOU. YEAH. HAVE A GREAT DAY. ALRIGHT, LAUREN. SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STRUCTURE THAN, THAN WHAT, UM, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING, MOSTLY BECAUSE I TALKED TO YOU JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I DID A BIG TOURISM UPDATE. UM, SO IF I'M NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH INFORMATION, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN, WE CAN GO EVERY NEED TO GO WITH THIS. UM, BUT WHAT, YOU WANNA TAKE THIS FIRST SLIDE ACTUALLY? OH, SURE. SO THIS IS THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR ECONOMY AND TOURISM. IT'S ABOUT 3.6% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET IS SPENT ON THE ECONOMY OF TOURISM. THANKS. OKAY. SO WHAT I DID IS I, I, I COMPILED A LIST OF THE PRIORITIES THAT I HAD HEARD FROM ALL OF YOU ON, UM, WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE IN THE TOURISM PROGRAM. UH, AND I HAVE THEM LISTED HERE. THE GREEN CHECKS MEAN THAT THEY ARE, UM, EITHER COMPLETED OR SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE OR VERY WELL UNDERWAY. THE YELLOW CHECKS ARE THINGS THAT I AM STILL WORKING ON. SO, UH, THE FIRST ONE THERE THAT YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE CREATED A TOURISM PLAN. IT IS OUR GUIDING LIGHT. IT WILL LAST US 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS. STARTING THREE MONTHS AGO. UM, WE CREATED A BRAND, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE FINAL LOGOS THERE ON THE RIGHT AFTER WE TOOK SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. UH, HOPEFULLY PETE, IT IS LESS OF A EKG. UM, BUT WE, WE KIND OF FLATTENED OUT THE LINES A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WASN'T AS EXACT. UM, WE ARE USING DATA TO MAKE DECISIONS. UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A YELLOW CHECK NEXT TO MAKING THIS DATA PUBLIC. UM, WITHIN [04:40:01] THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WE'LL BE LAUNCHING OUR TRANSPARENCY HUB. UM, THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE AND IT WILL BE A, UM, IT WILL BE THE DATA THAT YOU ALL SEE THAT WE'VE BEEN SENDING TO THE LODGING COUNCIL IN ADDITION TO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ANDREW HAS, UM, IN MIND TO PUT UP THERE. UM, COMMUNICATE THIS DATA TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. I HAVE A YELLOW CHECK THERE JUST BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE DOING IT IN SOME WAYS, BUT I THINK THE TRANSPARENCY HUB WILL REALLY HELP US, UM, KIND OF FULL THROTTLE THAT, UM, WE'RE FOCUSING ON RETURN ON INVESTMENT, UM, WITH OFF PEAK DESTINATION MARKETING AND INCORPORATING EDUCATIONAL MESSAGES. UM, YOU ALL KNOW THAT QUITE WELL WITH THE, UM, UH, MARKETING CONCEPTS THAT I BROUGHT YOU A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT WE PUT INTO MARKET, UM, AT THE END OF NOVEMBER. UH, MAKING DECISIONS WITH BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN MIND. UM, WE'RE STILL, THAT'S FRONT OF MIND WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING. UH, THAT'S WHY THE SUSTAINABILITY, UH, MESSAGING IS, IS COMING THROUGH STRONG STILL AND WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, CREATING METRICS TO DETERMINE SUCCESS MEASURES. I PUT A YELLOW CHECK HERE, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UM, YOU'VE SPARKED, UM, WITH US, PETE, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WHAT I WOULD CALL STANDARD METRICS THAT WE ALL ARE, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH HEARING ABOUT AND HAVE HEARD LOTS ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WORK WITH THE CHAMBER. BUT ALSO STARTING TO THINK ABOUT OTHER THINGS LIKE, UM, UH, USING THE, UM, TRAFFIC DASHBOARD, UM, TO WATCH, IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOOK IN REAL TIME AND SEE AS WE ARE APPROACHING, UM, KIND OF THAT PEAK, UM, CONGESTION, THOSE PEAK CONGESTION EVENTS, AND HOW DO WE MEASURE HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? AND THEN ESTABLISHING A LONG-TERM VISITOR SERVICES STRATEGY. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE TAB, UM, WORKING AT THE TAB LEVEL ON THIS FOR AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS. UH, AND THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU, UM, NEXT YEAR, UH, AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. NEXT WEEK WITH THE TAB, WE'LL BE GOING OVER, UM, A DRAFT LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TAB TO CITY COUNCIL ON VISITOR SERVICES. SO THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU. SO WHEN YOU SAY NEXT YEAR, WHAT MONTH? YEAH, UM, I NEED TO MEET WITH ANNETTE. UH, OUR MONTHLY MEETING HAS BEEN PUSHED OFF A FEW WEEKS JUST BECAUSE OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP. UM, BUT MY PLAN WAS TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY WITH ANNETTE ON OKAY, IF I, EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS A, A WORKING BACKWARDS, RIGHT? UM, WHAT I DON'T WANNA DO IS HAVE A MEETING IN JUNE TO DETERMINE, UH, A CONTRACT WITH THE VISITOR CENTER. UH, 'CAUSE THAT JUST, IT NEVER FEELS RIGHT. EVEN IN MAY, IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. IT FEELS TOO RUSHED. EVERYBODY FEELS UNDER THE GUN. UM, SO I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER, BUT I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT THE NEXT YEAR. SO, UM, EARLY SPRING IS MY GOAL, BUT THE TAB IS OP PINING ON THE VISIT CENTER. SO THERE CAN BE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HOPEFULLY TO DEESCALATE ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH QUESTIONS. HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE GOAL. YOU LOOK SO OPTIMISTIC. . YEAH. IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE VISITOR CENTER CAN BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU ASK 10 PEOPLE AND THEY EACH GIVE YOU 10 DIFFERENT ANSWERS. SO I'VE HEARD THAT. YEAH. OR MORE . THAT'S RIGHT. . UM, SO THAT IS MY UPDATE TO YOU. I KNOW IT, IT'S, IT'S RATHER BRIEF COMPARED TO EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT, UM, I DO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE INFORMED BASED ON OUR, OUR LAST MEETINGS. UM, MY OTHER SLIDES ARE, ARE MORE JUST VISUALS OF EITHER THE CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RE RUNNING RIGHT NOW, UM, OR THE SUSTAINABILITY MESSAGING THAT WE HAVE. AND I'M HAPPY TO SHOW YOU THAT AND HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE TOO. ON OUR, ON MY DIRECTION, MY, MY VISION, UM, AND THE PRIORITIES OF, OF TOURISM. LAUREN, THE LOGO. GO THE LOGO UP THERE. IS THAT IT ? DO, DO YOU HATE IT LESS? NO. YOU STILL HATE IT? . YOU STILL HATE IT? I, I WILL SAY THAT ALTHOUGH MY ABILITY TO READ EKGS IS NOW FADING, THANKFULLY , UH, I, I I DO THINK IT IS, HAS, IS IMPROVED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LAURA, I'M GOING TO PICK AT YOUR BRAIN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY SENT YOU AN EMAIL AND TO ANNETTE ALSO AN EMAIL THAT WAS AN AD THAT SOMEBODY FOUND OUT OF STATE AND I FORGET WHAT STATE IT WAS. I FORGET WHAT TOPIC IT WAS, BUT IT WAS A THREAD ON NEXT DOOR, I BELIEVE. AND THE COMMENTS WERE FANTASTIC. YEAH. THEY WERE SO SUPPORTIVE. IF THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF SEDONA IS DOING NOW, THEY, [04:45:01] EVERYBODY WAS PLEASED. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT EMAIL I SENT YOU? I DO. DO YOU REMEMBER, CAN YOU JUST GIMME AT LEAST A COUNCIL, JUST AN UPDATE OF WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE WERE OPINING ABOUT? YEAH. I, FIVE MINUTES AGO SENT IT TO OUR CONSULTANT, UM, JUST 'CAUSE I LIKE TO MAKE SURE, AND I WAS SO PLEASED WHEN I SAW THAT INFORMED OF RESIDENT SENTIMENT SINCE THEY HELPED US SO MUCH WITH OUR RESIDENT SENTIMENT SURVEY. UM, BUT IN ESSENCE IT WAS AN AD. UM, WE DID IT THROUGH THE A OT CO-OP LAST YEAR. UM, AND THE MESSAGING WAS, UH, SEDONA IGNITES ALL FIVE SENSES, SIX, IF YOU COUNT YOUR SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY MM-HMM . UM, UH, AND THIS WAS SIMILAR TO, UH, THE LAST ADS THAT THE CHAMBER WAS DOING, UM, AT THE END THERE. UM, AND THEN WE HAD SOME, UM, BODY TEXT THAT WAS IN THERE AS WELL. UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE ON NEXTDOOR, WHICH IS UNUSUAL. UH, THAT WAS MY POINT. I BELIEVE IT WAS ALL POSITIVE COMMENTS. UM, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT JUST KIND OF UNDERSCORED THAT FROM A RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS THE KIND OF MESSAGING THAT THEY WANNA SEE. RIGHT. WHICH IS WHY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRADDLE A LINE BETWEEN WHAT I CALL COME STAY, PLAY MESSAGING, UM, AND MORE OF A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY. TAKE CARE OF THIS PLACE. THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT WHEN YOU COME HERE, TYPE OF MESSAGING. YEAH. I THOUGHT THAT WAS FABULOUS. SO, PETE, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? NO. OKAY, SO GO AHEAD. OKAY. I'LL SHOW YOU THE, THE PRETTY THINGS NOW. OH, I HAVE CONTROL PRETTY THINGS. OH NO. HATE IT AGAIN. OH REALLY? THE OTHER, RIGHT, RIGHT. HUH? THERE'S NO VOLUME, HUH? OH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE VOLUME. OKAY, WELL THAT'S OKAY. YOU GET THE POINT. JOE KNOWS HOW TO MAKE, JOE KNOWS HOW TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN. WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW. SOME DAYS ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS. JUST TURNED DOWN. COULD HAVE DONE THAT. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SURE. POSITIVE MESSAGE. YEAH, IT'S OKAY. I WAS SHOCKED. OH, HOLD ON. I DELETED MY ACCOUNT. SOME KIND OF PLANT. IT'S NOT TRUE. I, I, I WAS, I WAS SO PLEASED. IT WAS YOU WERE HALLUCINATING. YES, IT WAS CRAZY. IT WAS, I'M NOT USED TO SEEING GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT ANYTHING, LET ALONE OR THE COUNCIL TEAMS. LET'S SEE. HOLD ON. OR TOURISM OR TOURISM ON NEXT DOOR. ON NEXT DOOR. IT WAS REALLY INSPIRING. IT'S OKAY, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY . OH, IT GONNA, IT'S GONNA CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. YEAH, THAT'S, I HAVE IT OFF. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. UM, NOW BACK TO YOUR, IT GO BACK TO SILENCE, THE SILENT FILMS. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. SILENT FILM. THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN WATCH IN SILENCE OR I CAN FAKE NARRATE. I WON'T DO THAT. UM, THESE WERE ADS THAT PLAYED ON META WHEN PEOPLE CAME IN MARKET, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU WERE FROM. SO I GOT SERVED THESE AS A LOCAL AS WELL, WHICH WAS INTENTIONAL. I WANT LOCALS TO SEE THE TYPE OF MESSAGING THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S SEDONA SHUTTLE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOT A RANGER ABOUT BEING CONSIDERATE AND THEN, UH, BE IN THE MOMENT. AND THAT'S ALL DONE IN HOUSE, OR DID, WAS THAT THE CONSULTANT DOING? UM, NO, THAT WAS, UH, OF AN OUT OF HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER AND THAT VIDEOGRAPHY WAS DONE OUT OF HOUSE. IF THEY ARE, UM, OUR, OUR ROTATING ADS OR OUR STATIC ADS, THEN WE DO THOSE IN-HOUSE. BUT THE VIDEOGRAPHY GETS DONE OUT OF HOUSE. AND, UM, THESE ARE JUST FOUR STILLS FROM THE SHOOT THAT WE DID THE OTHER DAY, UM, FOR THE WINTER CAMPAIGN. UM, SO THE ONE ON THE RIGHT OR THE ONE ON THE LEFT THERE ON, THAT'S GONNA BE EL PORTEL, THAT WAS REDEFINED HOSPITALITY. UM, THIS IS PART OF THE REDEFINED CAMPAIGN THAT YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. UM, THE ONE TO THE RIGHT, UM, WAS REDEFINED GIRLS TRIP AND THERE'S A SERIES OF IMAGES THAT GO WITH THAT. UM, THE ONE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS, UM, REDEFINE AUTHENTICITY AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THAT WAS REDEFINE MINDFULNESS. UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE CAMPAIGN THAT WE'LL BE DOING FOR THE NEXT 18 MONTHS, BUT WE'LL SWAP IN DIFFERENT REDEFINES AS WE GO, UM, ONCE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE SEASON OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE MESSAGING THAT WE'RE DOING. BUT [04:50:03] THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TOURISM. ANY HIGH LEVEL PRIORITIES THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT YOU WANT ME TO BE DOING OR ANYTHING ELSE? POSSIBILITY? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, SO TELL ME IF I'M CRAZY OR NOT. THE, IS IT, WHAT'S THAT? GEOFENCING MM-HMM . IN THE FOREST TO SEND PEOPLE EITHER A TEXT OR A VIDEO AS A REMINDER TO PICK UP YOUR DOG POOP OR PICK UP YOUR TRASH OR PACK IN, PACK OUT. YEAH. JUST IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT IS. UM, WE SERVE THEM THE TYPE OF AD THAT I SHOWED YOU THERE, THE P WORD, IT'S, I CALL THE, THE P WORD, UM, IS, UH, MAN, THAT REALLY, UH, RUBS SOME PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY. . UM, AND WE'VE YEAH. WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE, DO WE HAVE JUST THE, THE VIDEO OF SOMEONE PICKING UP THE POOP RATHER THAN HAVING THE WORD POOP ON THE SCREEN, YOU KNOW, OR, OR HEARING IT. WE'LL JUST PACK IN, PACK OUT. I MEAN, YEAH. BUT WE, YES, WE ARE, WE ARE PLAYING WITH ALL OF THAT TYPE OF MESSAGING. SO YOU CAN'T JUST SHOW SOMEBODY WALKING THEIR DOG ON THE TRAIL ON A LEASH THAT SAYS PACK IN, PACK OUT. JUST, OR JUST SAY IN A DIAPER UP. YES. AND PUTTING A DIAPER IN A, IN A BAG. YEAH. THAT'S THE D WORD. THAT WOULD ALSO BE A HAR FLASH POINT FOR SOME PEOPLE. YES. YES. POINT TAKEN LAUREN. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S THE IMAGERY THAT'S CONVEYING YOUR MESSAGE WITH THE P WORD AND THE REST OF IT IS TAKE IT WITH YOU. YES. P UH, I I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHETHER ANY OTHER JURISDICTION TOURISM PLACE HAS TAKEN ON THIS. I MEAN, I FEEL AT RISK, IF I EVER THINK ABOUT CONFRONTING A DOG OWNER WITH A DOG OFF THE LEASH, IT'S JUST LIKE, YEAH, I'D RATHER NOT DO THAT. BUT IF WE WERE SOMEHOW TO ESTABLISH A CULTURE HERE THAT IT'S OKAY TO SAY SOMETHING, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT ALL FEEL SAFER, YOU KNOW, SAYING THE CULTURAL MESSAGE THAT WE ALL SAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY PLACE HAS EVER BEEN DEFINITELY SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT OR NOT. DEFINITELY. AND, AND, AND IT RANGES FROM PICKING UP YOUR POOP TO, UM, GRAND CANYON TRYING TO TELL YOU, I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE 25 AND FIT, DON'T HIKE DOWN TO THE BOTTOM ON IN JULY. YOU KNOW? UM, AND TRYING TO TAKE FUNNY PLAYS ON THAT. I KNOW THAT ANDREW'S BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, WE WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALWAYS ON EDUCATIONAL, UM, MESSAGING AND SO IS THERE SOME TYPE OF VIDEO WE COULD MAKE AND DO WE GO FUNNY WITH IT? DO WE NOT GO FUNNY WITH IT? UM, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT AND IT IS, IT IS NOT NEW AND OTHER, UH, LOCATIONS, ESPECIALLY PLACES LIKE NATIONAL PARKS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, A CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE COME AND DO THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO DO. UM, THEY ARE DEFINITELY PROVIDING A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR US. HAVE MOUNTAIN LION FOOTAGE. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY MOUNTAIN LION FOOTAGE? WE CAN USE . UH, NO, BUT ACCORDING TO BRYCE, IT'S OKAY. I, WHEN I SEE A LOOSE DOG, I ALWAYS GO, OH, THERE'S A MOUNTAIN LION OVER. BUT I KNOW, I QUITE HONESTLY, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ALLOW THE DOGS TO GO AND THEY HIKE AND THEY HAVE BAGS WITH THEM AND THEY DO CLEAN UP. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S HALF THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE. MM-HMM . SO, UH, BUT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE COYOTES. NAH, THEY DON'T LISTEN. SO, SO DOES ANDREW HAVE AN IDEA FOR THAT? FOR COYOTES AND THEIR POOP. ALRIGHT. RHETORICAL. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OUR NEXT SECTION IS CHUCK, BUT I DON'T SEE, HE'S HERE. OH, HE'S THE SIDE, MY BLIND SPOT. HE'S ONE OF THOSE GUYS. YOU NEED A BELL ON HIS, ON HIS, HIS ANKLE S YEAH. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. . MY OFFICE IS COLD BEFORE THIS UNTIL COMING HERE. COUNSEL, I JUST WANNA CHECK, UH, I, I'D LIKE TO BREAK AT FIVE TODAY. UH, BUT YOU WANNA WORK RIGHT THROUGH, DIRECT THROUGH, OR DO YOU WANNA HAVE A BREAK IN BETWEEN? SOME TIME BETWEEN NOW I'D RATHER GO STRAIGHT THROUGH. IT'S ONLY NOT EVEN TWO. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S A COUPLE HOURS. YEAH, NO, I WAS JUST SAYING IT'S A LONG TIME AGO WITHOUT A BREAK. OKAY. WELL THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING BECAUSE I, I WANNA GET CRA AS MUCH AS I CAN IN, WELL AFTER THE, UM, NEXT PART OF THE ECONOMY GOAL DISCUSSION AROUND BROADBAND, WE WILL MOVE INTO A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GOAL AREA. SO MAYBE THAT'S A TIME. OKAY. TAKE A BREAK. THAT'S FINE. HI CHUCK. GOOD TO SEE YOU. YOU TOO. [04:55:01] GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, I'M NOT USED TO THIS, THAT ONE. MAKE SURE YOU'RE TALKING TO THE, YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THE COMPUTER. I THINK YOU DO. , MOUSE MICE. ME BROADBAND, ENSURING THAT HIGH-SPEED INTERNET AVAIL IS AVAILABLE TO THE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. BEAD IS BROADBAND EQUITY ACCESS AND DEPLOYMENT PROGRAM. IT IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM TO BRING HIGH-SPEED INTERNET TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. FUNDING, UH, FOR BEAD IS AWARDED BY TWO THRESHOLDS. ONE IS UNSERVED, THE OTHER UNDER THE OTHER ONE IS UNDERSERVED. UNSERVED IS SPEEDS BELOW 25 MEGABITS PER SECOND DOWNLOAD AND THREE MEGABITS PER SECOND. UPSTREAM STREAM UNDERSERVED IS BETWEEN 25 MEGABITS AND 100 MEGABITS DOWNSTREAM AND THREE TO 20 MEGABITS UPSTREAM. AND IF YOU FALL WITHIN ANY ONE OF THESE, UH, SUPPOSE FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR, UH, DOWNSTREAM WAS 200 MEGABITS PER SECOND, WHICH IS PRETTY FAST, BUT YOUR DOWNSTREAM WAS 10. YEAH. YOU STILL FALL UNDER UN UNDERSERVED, WHICH MOST OF SEDONA FELL UNDER, WHICH WAS THE NEXT BULLET POINT. , ARIZONA WAS ALLOTTED ALMOST $1 BILLION FOR THE BEAD PROGRAM. THE STATE OF ARIZONA PUBLISHED A MAP OF EVERY HOUSEHOLD, EVERY PASSING, EVERY PASSING ISN'T JUST HOUSEHOLDS, IT'S BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES, SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND SO THEY PUBLISHED A MAP OF EVERY PASSING WITH THEIR CURRENT SPEEDS. AND WHAT THEY DID IS THEY CREATED A CHALLENGE PHASE WHERE BOTH ISPS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS COULD CHALLENGE, UH, THESE SPEEDS THAT THEY PUBLISHED SUDDENLY CHALLENGED ALL THE UNSERVED AND UNDERSERVED LO LOCATIONS IN SEDONA AND SEDONA SUCCESSFULLY COUNTER CHALLENGED EVERY HOUSEHOLD ONE AT A TIME. WE ADDED LOAD UP LIKE A 36 PAGE REPORT AND OTHER DOCUMENTATION ONE AT A TIME FOR EVERY HOUSE. AND WE DID EXTEND BEYOND JUST THE CITY LIMITS INTO THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK AND SURROUNDING AREA A LITTLE BIT AS MUCH AS COULD BE DONE IN THREE DAYS IN THE NEXT PHASE MARKET SOUNDING. UM, WHAT ARIZONA DID IS THEY GOT WITH THE NTIA, WHICH IS YOUR NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION TO, UM, UH, THAT'S THE FEDERAL PART OF THIS PROGRAM. UH, THEY GOT TOGETHER WITH THEM TO CREATE THESE PROJECT AREAS. UM, AND WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK THE ENTIRE STATE, STATE, SPLIT IT UP INTO PROJECT AREAS, SPLIT UP THE COUNTIES INTO MULTIPLE PROJECT AREAS, UM, AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE NTIA, UH, MARKET SOUNDING PHASE. UH, GAVE A CHANCE FOR BOTH ISPS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, UM, ON THESE PROJECT AREAS. THAT ONE IS CURRENTLY OVER AT THIS POINT, UM, BUT NOT AT THE TIME I MADE THE SLIDE. CURRENTLY WE ARE IN THE PRE-REGISTRATION PHASE WHERE ISPS CAN PRE-REGISTER BEFORE BIDDING OPENS. AND THE PRE-REGISTRATION PHASE IS, UM, ISPS SUBMIT THEIR FINANCIALS AND, UM, OTHER DOCUMENTATION PROVING VIABILITY THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE THE LATEST TIMELINE FROM THE STATE PUTS THE FINAL PROPOSAL SUBMISSION TO AUGUST OF 2025. AND THAT FINAL, UH, SUBMISSION IS, UH, THE, ALL THE PROJECT AREAS WITH WHO THE STATE SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT AREA. SUBMIT THAT TO THE NTIA FOR APPROVAL. AND THAT'S OUT IN AUGUST, UH, WHICH IS STILL A LITTLE WAYS AWAY. SO THOSE BROADBAND COMMITTEE ISSUED AN RFI, UH, TO VARIOUS I, UM, ISPS, THE FRFI IS CURRENTLY OPEN AND WE'RE HOPING TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL, UM, IN JANUARY WITH THOSE RESULTS. THAT'S 26. JANUARY 26TH. THIS IS 24, RIGHT? NO, NO, I KNOW THAT. BUT WHEN YOU SAID, YOU SAID, UH, UH, PROBABLY THE JANUARY, IS IT 2020 SIXTH IS THE LAST ONE. WELL, IF YOU GO BACK TO, OR MAYBE EVEN THIS SLIDE WITH THE TIMEFRAME, MAYBE THAT'LL HELP CLARIFY BECAUSE SUBMISSION IS AUGUST 25. I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE FINAL DECISION WOULD BE JANUARY 26TH. I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR RFI PROCESS AND WHY WE'RE DOING THAT NOW VERSUS THE STATE'S SUBMISSION PROCESS IN AUGUST. UM, I'M SEEING IT, THE TIMELINE HERE. OKAY. WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SUPPORTING ONE OF THE ISPS AND, UM, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THAT TO THEM, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT PUBLIC PRIOR TO THEM SUBMITTING. OKAY. UH, THIS TIMELINE IS FROM THE STATE. [05:00:01] UM, BACK IN AUGUST. IT SHOWED, UH, LAST AUGUST. IT SHOWED, UM, UH, THEY CALL INITIAL PROPOSAL VOLUME TWO. BASICALLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS COMING UP WITH THE PROJECT AREAS, THEN THEY BROUGHT THAT TO THE NTIA FOR APPROVAL. NTI MADE THEM, UM, MODIFY IT SLIGHTLY. AND AT THAT POINT THEN THEY DRAFTED THE AREAS, MADE A MAP AND MADE IT PUBLIC. THEY WENT TO MARKET SOUNDING, WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP, UH, WHERE PEOPLE COULD PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE PROJECT AREAS. UH, PRE-REGISTRATION OPENED UP AT THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER. UH, ONCE AGAIN, PRE-REGISTRATION IS WHERE ALL THE ISPS THAT WANT TO, UH, APPLY FOR A PROJECT AREA. UH, THEY WILL SUBMIT ALL THEIR FINANCIALS AND OTHER VIABILITY, UH, TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE FINAL PROJECT AREA DETERMINATION THEORETICALLY HAPPENED ON 1126. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. I REALLY DON'T EXPECT TO HEAR ANYTHING FOR A LITTLE BIT. TAKES US STATE A WHILE TO GO THROUGH DATA. SO GRANTEE APPLICATIONS, UH, OPEN, THEY GOT A DATE THERE OF 12 16 24 TO 5 24 25. UH, THAT HAS CHANGED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK, AND IT IS FROM ONE SIX OF 25 TO TWO FIVE OF 25 PLUS OR MINUS A DAY. SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY SHORTENED THE WINDOW THAT IT'S OPEN. THEY PUSHED IT OUT A LITTLE BIT AND SHORTENED IT. UH, ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THAT, THE, UM, THEY'LL PICK WHO DOES WHICH PROJECT AREA, THEY'LL PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER, AND THEN THEY'LL BRING IT OUT TO A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR FINAL PROPOSAL. AND THAT FINAL PROPOSAL WILL, WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE NTIA IN AUGUST. AND THAT WOULD BE WITH ALL THE PROJECT AREAS AND WHO THEY SELECTED AND HOPEFULLY NTIA APPROVES START STALLING OUT SOME MONEY, UH, TO BRING BROADBAND. CHUCK, WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE SUCCESSFULLY CHALLENGED THE CHALLENGE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT, THAT, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WAS IT THAT, WHERE, WHERE WAS IT CHALLENGED AND WHO WAS IT THAT, UH, IT, IT INITIALLY THE MAP CAME IN WITH MOST OF SEDONA UNDERSERVED MM-HMM . UM, SUDDEN LAKE CHALLENGED EVERY LOCATION AND WE COUNTER CHALLENGED EVERY LOCATION TO, TO . AND IS THAT NTIA, WHO IS IT THAT CAME? UH, THAT WAS TO THE STATE. STATE. OKAY. OKAY. GOOD WORK. THANKS. SPEAKING OF THE STATE, UH, LAST WEEK, I THINK IT WAS THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED A BROADBAND PROGRAM THAT SHE'S CALLING CONNECT ALL AZ. RIGHT? DOES THAT HAVE IN ANY IMPACT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING? UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF CONNECT ALL EASY, SO I'M GONNA ASSUME NOT JUST CAME OUT IT YEAH, IT CAME OUT LAST WEEK. AND, UH, WELL, ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, THE GOAL IS TO CONNECT 100% OF ARIZONA HOUSEHOLDS BY THE YEAR 2030, WHICH IS TOO FAR OFF, UM, TO DO THAT. THE STATE IS PUTTING A HUNDRED MILLION USING THE ARIZONA BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT GRANT PROGRAM. BUT IS THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY NOW? UM, I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON SOME OF THESE DETAILS. UM, BUT THIS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THE BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ALONG THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS AND SOME MIDDLE MILE PROGRAM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DOES DO, DO YOU, CAN YOU FIND OUT IF THIS HAS, I I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE STATE'S GETTING THAT MONEY FROM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE STATE DOES WANT TO BUILD A LOT OF THAT, UH, MIDDLE MILE, UH, UP 17. UH, THEY WANT TO MAKE IT, I THINK WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE FIBER GOING DOWN TO PHOENIX RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY WANNA MAKE IT WHERE EVERY MAJOR AREA, WHETHER IT'S HERE CAME AND WHATNOT, HAS MORE THAN ONE PATH OF FIRE GOING OUT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE. OKAY. WELL, THE, THE CONNECT ALL AZ NAME IS ALSO A WEBSITE, SO I MEAN, IF THERE'S JUST GONNA CONNECT ALL AZ AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS ANY IMPACT ON US. I THINK WE'RE FURTHER AHEAD, BUT, UM, JUST BE GOOD TO KNOW. I'LL, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU. THANKS. UH, CHUCK, TWO THINGS. ONE CAUGHT MY ATTENTION RECENTLY. I THINK, WELL MAYBE IT'S JUST THE COUNTY TALKING, BUT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING SOUTH OF COTTONWOOD WITH THE SPEED THAT THEY PUT INTO THE SCHOOL, I THINK. AND, AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA SERVE A LITTLE SOUTH OF THERE AND THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE SCHOOL SPEED. I THINK OUR LIBRARY IS ALSO IN THAT SAME THING, RIGHT? WE GOT HIGH SPEED AT THE LIBRARY THANKS TO THE COUNTY. AND IS THERE A WAY TO TAP INTO DO THAT SAME KIND OF MANEUVER THAT THE COUNTY'S TALKING ABOUT INTO SOMEWHERE OUR SCHOOLS HAVE IT ALSO PETE SCHOOLS AND THE LIBRARY IN SEDONA? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. MM-HMM . SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I READ IS GOING ON THERE AT, UH, VERDE VILLAGES. WHAT IS THAT? SOUTH [05:05:01] OF COTTONWOOD. BUT THE COUNTY IS, OF COURSE, THE COUNTY TALKS ABOUT THINGS TO THEM. THEY DON'T ALWAYS MOVE, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'RE, THEY ANNOUNCED SOME PROJECT THAT WAS GOING ON TAPPING INTO THAT NETWORK THAT WAS NOT GONNA IMPACT THE SPEED AT THE SCHOOLS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SERVE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHETHER WE'VE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S POSSIBLE UP HERE AS WELL. UH, BUT I CAN TAKE A LOOK INTO IT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'VE GOT TO ADD IS, IS THERE A ROLE FOR OUR LOBBYIST HERE IN SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE THINK THE LOBBYIST IS MAINLY WORKING THE LEGISLATURE, BUT I KNOW IN OTHER PLACES LOBBYISTS CAN SOMETIMES HELP RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEPARTMENTS TOO. AND IF THERE'S SOME SMART THINKING THAT WE MIGHT DO HERE AND UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST MIGHT SEED THE RIGHT CONVERSATION AT THE RIGHT TIME, THAT COULD HELP US SOMEWHERE IN THIS LINE. I CAN ALSO CHECK INTO THE SCHOOL. UM, I CAN PULL UP THE MAP AND SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY ARE GETTING B FUNDING. IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE ME ABOUT 10 MINUTES. BUT CHUCK, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GOING INTO THE VOCI KEEP INCLUDING THOSE HOMES. CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF DOING THAT? IS IT THE INTENTION OF IF WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE ACCEPTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HELP, UH, PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE VOC? UM, WE WON'T BE PROVIDING THE SERVICES. IT'LL BE THE ISP. OKAY. THAT BIDS ON THAT PROJECT AREA. UH, WHEN THEY CAME BACK WITH A LIST OF PLACES, THE BEST WE COULD DO, 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO REAL LIST, IS I EXTRAPOLATED EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND THE ADDRESS IS SEDONA, YOU KNOW, FOR VOC AND ALL THAT. AND I COULDN'T SIT THERE AND LOOK UP EACH STREET. I JUST HAD TO POUND THROUGH. BUT IT DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT WAS A BENEFIT TO INCLUDE THE AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE, DO WE SUBMIT AN APPLICATION WITH AN ISP OR WE WAIT FOR AN ISP TO BE CHOSEN? UM, WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, SUBMIT A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO AN ISP AND THEN THE STATE WILL CHOOSE. DO YOU THINK ANYBODY, YOU THINK THERE'LL BE MORE THAN ONE SUBMISSION? I MEAN, WILL SUDDENLINK OR OPTIMUM BE THE ONLY SUBMITTER FOR OUR AREA OR DO YOU THINK IT, UM, THERE'S OTHER COMPANIES INVOLVED? I THINK THERE'LL BE, UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, TWO TO TWO TO FIVE. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN TALK ABOUT THE RFI BEFORE I, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT PUSHING. I GET IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, CHUCK. COOL. UH, THE LAST SLIDE. UM, YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S SEDONA. UH, THE TURQUOISE DOTS ARE ALL THE, UM, UM, BE ELIGIBLE AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH UNDERSERVED AND ALL THE BROWN DOTS ARE, UH, NOT BEAT ELIGIBLE. UH, THEY ARE EITHER SERVED OR PLANNED SERVICE AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE WHERE, UH, CENTURYLINK IS. UM, NOT SURE IF ANY OF THOSE ARE, ARE SUNLINK, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, SEDONA IS SITTING PRETTY WELL WITH FOR BEAD FUNDING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. IN FACT, WE DID A LOT BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE VERDE VALLEY NOW JUST OFF THE CUFF TRUCK, THE BOTTOM BOTTOM FOR FAR RIGHT TO, UH, WOULD BE THE CHAPEL AREA. AND YOU'D HAVE THAT BROWN CLUSTER THAT'S, I BELIEVE THE METHODIST CHURCH WHO HAS THEIR OWN FIBER TO IT, TO, WOULD THAT BE NOT, UH, COMPLIANT OR NOT, UH, ACCESSIBLE TO THEM? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON IT. ALRIGHT. BUT, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHERS, IT'S FUNNY, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE FOUR BROWN DOTS AND THAT WOULD BE IN, IN A, UH, IT'S YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? ? YEAH. I WISH, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND HOMES. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THEY WOULD NOT BE, UH, ABLE TO GET THE, UH, BE PART OF THE CALCULATION. UM, THE COUNTER CHALLENGE DIDN'T GO THROUGH ON THOSE. OKAY. BUT I'D HAVE TO GET WITH THE STATE AS TO WHY. OKAY. IF I COULD, UM, OUT A SMALL COMMENT. SO THINKING FORWARD, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, BUT ONCE, UM, THESE ARE AWARDED AND WE HAVE AN ISP THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKING IN OUR AREA, GETTING SERVICES TO THE HOMES, UM, THE REALITY OF THAT IS IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK WITH RIGHT OF WAY PERMITTING AND TRENCHING AND GETTING THE, UM, LINES LAID. AND SO THOSE PROVIDE CHALLENGES, BUT ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, WHAT WE'RE [05:10:01] DOING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY OURSELVES AT THAT TIME. STREET PROJECTS, WATER PROJECTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IF THERE HAS TO BE ANY, UM, UM, INSTALLATION OF SUBSURFACE CONDUITS. UM, SO IT WILL TRIGGER, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT IN THE CITY FOR THESE ISPS TO BE WORKING IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY TO GET FIBER TO THE HOME AS ENVISIONED BY THE, BY THE BEAD FUNDING. UM, SO WE NEED TO PLAN AHEAD FOR BEING READY FOR THAT AS THE PERMITTING AGENCY AND THE ONE THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE LINES ARE GOING AND CONDUIT, ET CETERA. CHUCK, IS IT THE ANTICIPATION THAT EVERY HOUSE WILL BE A HOME RUN OR WILL SOME, THAT'S THE ANTI ANTICIPATION THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET FIBER TO THE HOME. RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIBER TO THE NODE AND COPPER TO THE HOME WITH LIN. OKAY. UM, THAT'S IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT ALL? OR, OH, I GUESS LASTLY, WHY IS THIS IN THE ECONOMY SECTION? I THINK YOU ALL MAY KNOW, BUT MAYBE JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, UM, PART OF OUR GOAL IS TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY, RIGHT? IN ADDITION TO TOURISM. AND BY HAVING BROADBAND AVAILABLE, THAT OPENS A LOT OF DOORS FOR, UM, BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES THAT RELY ON THIS TYPE OF INTERNET SPEED. UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT. PETE. YEAH. I LOVE THIS WORK AND I REALLY ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS, UH, ONE OF OUR HIGH PRIORITY TOPICS HERE. IT IS FOR ME THAT THIS IS POINTS TO SO MANY THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO SPUR HERE IN OUR TOWN. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THOUGH THAT MY STARLINK MINI GETS ME FASTER SPEED SERVICE THAN MY , MY CABLE SERVICE DOES CURRENTLY. IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, FASTER YET. SOMETIMES I SEE THAT SPEED DROP LOW A HUNDRED, BUT IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. YEAH. AND, UH, WIRELESS TECHNOLOGIES, YOU KNOW, COULD BE BETTER IN THE FUTURE THAN THROWING A BUNCH OF EVEN FIBER IN THE GROUND. I DON'T KNOW, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY BRING THE PRICE DOWN. YEAH. WHICH THEY DID. JUST A LITTLE BIT. . I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, UH, THE ECONOMY SECTION HAS, HAVE YOU GOTTEN INQUIRIES FROM, FROM ANY UNUSUAL BUSINESSES WHO WANNA ESTABLISH A FOOTHOLD? YOUR NO. SO EVERYTHING IS STILL TOURISM RELATED, BASED AND RELATED. CORRECT. UM, BUT AT LEAST FROM, FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT OF HOW HARD WE'RE GONNA PUSH, UH, WE'VE DECIDED THAT, UH, WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH TWO THINGS, WHICH IS HOUSING AND BROADBAND. AND THEN WE CAN AT LEAST LOOK DESIRABLE TO WANTING TO GET SOMEONE TO COME HERE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO THE NEXT TAKE A BREAK GOAL AREA IS LIVABILITY. SO I THINK IT'S A NATURAL BREAK POINT IF YOU NEED ONE. RIGHT. SO IF YOU WANNA TAKE, HOW LONG WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE FOR A BREAK? 10 MINUTES. I HIT 12, 13, 12. 13, 12 AND A HALF. BYE. ALRIGHT. UH, 10 AFTER YOU GO A ROCKET, SHE'S GONE. TEST, TEST COUNSELOR. FAFF WILL BE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITHOUT HIM. HE'LL BE IN IN A MOMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. UH, VICE MAYOR, CAN WE HAVE YOU AT THE DA PLEASE WITH D ON THE WESTERN ACCENT? EXCUSE. YEAH, SAME THING. THIS CHAIR. OKAY. STEVE CHIEF, READY TO GO? GOOD FOR ME. YOU'RE SET. ALL YOURS. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. AKA BIRTHDAY WOMAN. THAT'S RIGHT. COUNSELORS. UM, SO I'M HERE TO FIRST START OFF WITH THE FIRST PART OF THE LIVABILITY SECTION. UM, I'M GONNA LEAVE SOME OF THESE GRAPHS TO BARBARA AND THEN WHEN IT GETS TO MORE OF THE INFORMATIVE INITIATIVES, I'LL COME BACK AND SPEAK AGAIN BECAUSE MY GRAPHS ARE NOT AT ALL INFORMATIVE. THEY SUPER ARE, BUT I'M NOT GONNA GO A FINANCIAL TALK. I'M TOTALLY TEASING. UM, SO ONLY 1% OF OUR CURRENT CAPITAL BUDGET IS RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THAT'S, UH, THE RADIO SYSTEM PROJECT. AND IN-CAR VIDEO THIS YEAR, MOST OF OUR MONEY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IS SPENT ON THE OPERATING SIDE, WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT LIVABILITY, IT'S [05:15:01] , VAST MAJORITY QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH WOULD BE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS A LOT LOWER PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT 14 MILLION A YEAR, OR 24% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET ONTO THE VERY INFORMATIVE INITIATIVES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THEM. JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE, UM, WHERE WE ARE AND THEN PLANS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE ONGOING. UM, SOME OF THESE WILL COME INTO, UM, SOME OF THE DECISION PACKAGES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE TALKING, I SAID YES, THIS NEXT YEAR WAS GONNA BE VERY TECHNOLOGY BASED. SO I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO WITH OUR RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WHICH IS A CIP PROGRAM, WE HAVE, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, BUT I'LL SAY IT FOR EVERYBODY, THERE ARE FOUR PHASES AND WE HAVE COMPLETED PHASE ONE. SO WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL PHASES TO GET THROUGH, UM, WHICH IS TESTING TO SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL PHASE ONE WAS, TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO, UM, BE IN PHASE TWO OR PHASE THREE BASED ON THAT. UM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TAKEN A VERY LONG TIME, UM, TO GET THROUGH EVEN JUST PHASE ONE. SO THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY, UM, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE STRESSED A LOT. WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH SEDONA FIRE ON WHERE WE ARE. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE PLANNED COMING UP TO DISCUSS, UM, WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND IF WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER STUDY TO DETERMINE IF WHAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED OVER 10 YEARS AGO IS STILL WHERE WE NEED TO BE OR WE NEED TO REVAMP IT AGAIN AND ALSO LOOK AT THE MONEY THAT, UM, MAY INCREASE, LIKE ALL THINGS OVER THE YEARS THAT IT, IT GOES UP, ESPECIALLY POST COVID. UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR OVER 10 YEARS AGO. UM, THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T GONNA RING TRUE ANY LONGER. UM, LABOR ITSELF HAS GONE UP A LOT. SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR RADIO SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CIP UM, AS I THINK LAST NIGHT I HEARD, MAYOR, YOU STATED SOMETHING ABOUT ATTENDING A MEETING THAT WAS GOING OVER THE, UM, POTENTIAL WITH YEP. YAVAPAI COUNTY. SO, UM, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ALL THE FINAL RESULTS OF IT. UM, AND REALLY DISCUSS WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE AS FAR AS IF WE WERE GONNA REGIONALIZE, IF THERE'S TWO, UM, IT WILL BE TWO SOON, WE'LL KNOW MORE, BUT I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN UPDATE THAT I FEEL, UM, WOULD BE SUPER INFORMATIVE RIGHT NOW UNLESS YOU HAD ONE THAT'S, UH, NO, THEY DID AT THE, UM, AT THE MEETING ON, UH, GOSH, MONDAY? NO, YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY. , OH MY GOSH. SEEMS LIKE A WEEK AGO. AND IT WAS ONLY YESTERDAY, TUESDAY, YESTERDAY, UM, UM, THE YAVAPI COUNTY SHERIFF GAVE THE UPDATE ON THE 9 1 1 DISPATCH CENTER, PSAP CONSOLIDATION PROJECT YOU JUST REFERRED TO. BUT THE OTHER TOPIC THAT HE RAISED AS A POTENTIAL REGIONAL DISCUSSION ITEM WAS INTEROPERABLE RADIO SYSTEM WHERE EVERYBODY CAN TALK ON THE SAME CHANNEL NO MATTER WHAT THEIR AGENCY IS, WHICH IS ALSO A CRITICAL PIECE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTRIGUING. I DON'T THINK IT'S PART OF THE 9 1 1 CONSOLIDATION EFFORT, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPORTANT REGIONAL TOPIC THAT I THINK WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM UPGRADE, WHICH AGAIN, IS A JOINT INITIATIVE WITH ANOTHER ENTITY. IT'S NOT JUST A CITY CONTROLLED RADIO SYSTEM. UM, SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES AND HOW THAT INFORMS THIS NEXT PIECE. YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. THANK YOU. UM, WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE FULL REPORT ON, ON EVERYTHING THAT SHOWED. SO ONCE WE GET THAT, WE'LL KNOW MORE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING AND OR PROPOSING AS FAR AS, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA, THE SUGGESTION IS TO REGIONALIZE, BUT EVEN WITH THAT, JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE, WE NEED TO KEEP GOING FORWARD WITH OUR UPGRADE BECAUSE, UM, WE NEED TO IMPROVE SERVICE. UM, WELL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF SAID THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT DISPATCH CENTERS, ONE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE DOMINGUEZ MOUNTAINS, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA BE HERE. IT MIGHT BE IN COTTONWOOD, IT MIGHT BE HERE, IT MIGHT BE WHEREVER. SO YOU DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD OF COURSE. BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ON THAT, I BELIEVE HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE RADIO SYSTEM BEING A CELLULAR BASED, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL LEARNED, RIGHT? WAS THAT, AM I CORRECT IN THAT? MM-HMM . WHICH WOULD BE FAR BETTER THAN THE 800 MEGAHERTZ, ASSUMING WE HAVE GOOD VERIZON TOWERS HERE AND HAVE GOOD CELLULAR, WHICH WE DON'T. SO THAT IS THE OTHER RIGHT COMPONENT. RIGHT. AND A LOT OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS EVEN UPGRADE TO A CERTAIN POINT THAT WE CAN THEN EVEN GO TO THAT NEXT UPGRADE. RIGHT. SO IT IS, UM, A VERY BIG [05:20:01] PRIORITY FOR US AND, AND THERE'LL BE MORE CONVERSATIONS, UM, AS WE'RE GOING INTO FURTHER CONVERSATIONS IN THE BUDGET ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS WE DEVELOP THAT MORE. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT. THAT'S A BIG INITIATIVE AND PROGRAM THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP ON. BRIAN CHIEF, WHERE DOES THIS PLAY INTO, UM, POSSIBLY USING THE RADIO STATION TOWER FOR A REPEATER TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN? IS THIS RELATED AT ALL TO THAT? IT COULD BE, BUT WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE THAT'S EVEN AN OPTION FOR US, UM, TO, TO LOOK AT. WE NEED TO DO, UM, A LOT OF OTHER UPGRADES FIRST BEFORE WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, TAPPING INTO SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, INFRASTRUCTURES THAT ARE OUT THERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH. UH, CHIEF, WOULD THIS UPGRADE DEAL WITH THE DEAD SPOTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND ON THE WEST SIDE? YES, MA'AM. SO RIGHT NOW WITH THE, THE FIRST UPGRADE THAT WE DID THAT IS, THAT WAS GETTING SOME OF OUR, UM, RADIO MINOR ISSUES, OUR CONSOLES WITHIN DISPATCH, GETTING THOSE UPDATED FIRST SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THE NEXT UPGRADE. SO A LOT OF IT, UM, REALLY WOULDN'T BE WHERE I COULD GO SHOW YOU OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT WAS. 'CAUSE A LOT OF IT WAS WITHIN OUR, OUR SYSTEM UPGRADING SOME OF THE OUTDATED, UM, CONSOLES AND, AND TOWERS FOR A BETTER LACK OF A TERM FOR OUR, OUR SYSTEM. SO, UM, THE NEXT ONE REALLY WILL BE TO ESTABLISH IF WE NEED TO PUT AN ANTENNA, ANOTHER SOURCE FOR WHERE THE MAIN ONE IS EITHER AT THE FIRE STATION HERE, AND THEN ANOTHER UPGRADE THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD IS TO DEAL WITH OVER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO OVER MORE BY THE WESTERN GATEWAY OR, UM, THE HIGH SCHOOL ITSELF. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT IS JUST EVEN THE LINE OF SIGHT ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CITY TO COMMUNICATE. SO IT HAPPENS DOWN DRY CREEK AS WELL. SO YOU GET, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR REALLY PRETTY LANDSCAPE MOUNTAINS IN THE WAY AND THAT TAKES CARE OF YOUR LINE OF SIGHT, WHERE THEN OUR RADIO STARTS STRUGGLING. NOW, WOULD THAT BE THROUGH SIT ON A FIRE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOWERS AND INFRASTRUCTURES? YES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE WORK WITH RIGHT NOW TO, TO DO A LOT OF THE UPGRADE. UM, MORE SPECIFICALLY, BOB IS, IS OUR PERSON AND I THINK, AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE A MEETING SHORTLY WITH SIT ON A FIRE. SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND, UM, THE PERSON THAT OVERSEES THAT PROJECT IS ERIN, UM, OUR SUPPORT SERVICES MANAGER. AND SHE'S OUT SICK TODAY, SO SHE COULDN'T BE HERE. SO I HOPE I ANSWERED AS MUCH AS THE QUESTIONS THAT I COULD. SHE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE CONTINUING DOWN IN THE, IN THE PROCESS. SO BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND OUR LICENSE PLATE READER INTEGRATION. SO AS LAST YEAR, I JUST DID A LITTLE BOOKMARK PLACEHOLDER TO SAY IT'S COMING. IF THIS IS PART OF THE TECHNOLOGY PART IS THAT OUR CURRENT BODY-WORN CAMERA SYSTEM G TAC, IS NOT SERVING THE NEEDS THAT, UM, WE REQUIRE MOSTLY WHEN IT ALSO COMES TO OUR REDACTION. UM, AND SERVING SOME OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, IT'S, AND THEN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR THEM TO SUPPORT ONGOING ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING. AND WE'RE REACHING THE END OF THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO RENEW IT. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THERE'S FOUR OTHER COMPANIES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, FOR BODY-WORN CAMERA SYSTEMS WILL BE COMPLETED WITH OUR TESTING TRIAL PHASE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WE'D LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH. WE'VE WORKED WITH IT, UM, AS PARTNERS BECAUSE THEY'LL DO A LOT OF THE INTEGRATION. THEY HELP WITH THE SUPPORT. UM, AND THEN, UH, HEIDI, WHO DOES OUR REDACTION. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A TEAM THAT ARE GOING THROUGH EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND TESTING THEM. OUR BIGGEST GOAL IS TO PICK SOMETHING THAT'S MORE TRIED AND TRUE THAT WILL LAST MUCH LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS. AND AS YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AS SOON AS YOU BUY SOMETHING. BUT IF WE GO WITH A COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN AROUND MUCH LONGER AND HAS A SERVICE RECORD THAT'S MORE DEPENDABLE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEKING. SO I THINK LAST YEAR FOR SOME OF YOU, YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT I REFERRED TO IT AS, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT LEVEL OF OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE DON'T WANT A C PERFORMER, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE MORE IN THE A RANGE SO THAT IT MIGHT COST A LITTLE MORE MONEY, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS GONNA SERVE OUR NEEDS AND LAST LONGER. SO THE TWO THAT WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN, UM, TO IS MOTOROLA AND AXON AT THIS POINT. THEY ALSO HAVE THE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT WE CAN BUNDLE WITHIN WHICHEVER, UM, BODY-WORN CAMERA SYSTEM THAT WE GO WITH. AND THEN, UM, OUR TASER THAT WE USE IS THROUGH AXON. SO POTENTIALLY THERE'S A THIRD BUNDLE THAT WOULD COME IN FOR A SERVICE CONTRACT GOING FORWARD. UM, THAT ALSO HELPS WITH DIFFERENT UPGRADES AS OUR TASERS, UM, ALSO NEED TO BE UPGRADED. WE HAVE A VERY OLD VERSION THAT'S NO LONGER SUPPORTED IF BATTERIES OR ANYTHING ELSE GOES OUT. SO WE NEED, WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THAT AS WELL. [05:25:01] UM, SO THE ECITATIONS, AS I THINK MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE, OUR TRACK SYSTEM IS UP AND GOING. THE COURT'S VERY HAPPY. OUR STAFF HAS REALLY LEARNED HOW TO CHANGE FROM HANDWRITING TICKETS TO, UM, MORE ELECTRONIC BASE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ROLLING. WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL WITH THAT. AND THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT AS FAR AS USING FOR COLLISIONS TO HELP, UM, JUST DO IT ALL ELECTRONICALLY VERSUS PAPER OR GOING BACK TO THE STATION AND DOING IT LATER SO THAT WHEN YOU, UM, SCAN SOMEBODY'S ID AND THEIR, THEIR VEHICLE INFORMATION, THAT CAN THEN JUST GO INTO THE COLLISION AS WELL. SO IT REALLY HELPS STREAMLINE SOME OF THE, THE WORK AND DOUBLE WORK THAT THAT COMES OUT OF IT. UH, POLICY REVIEW AND UPDATES, THAT IS ALWAYS ONGOING. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO UPDATE OUR POLICIES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GO WITH BEST PRACTICES OR SOME LESSONS LEARNED. WE, WE, UH, WORK WITH ANOTHER COMPANY, UM, EDWARDS AND AMATO WHO ARE IN CHARGE BASICALLY OF STAYING UP LAWYERS THAT STAY ON TOP OF CASE LAWS AND THINGS. AND SO THEY GIVE US UPDATES, BUT WE LOOK TO UPDATE OTHER PARTS OF OUR POLICY AND WE WORK WITH KURT IN LEGAL TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING. ALSO, UM, HAS A SECOND SET OF EYES ON IT. SO THAT'S ONGOING. THE TRAINING, PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM AND WELLNESS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE PRIORITIZED, UM, GOING FORWARD DIFFERENTLY USING OUR CURRENT STAFF TO, UM, REPOSITION SO THAT WE CAN PUT MORE ATTENTION TO OUR TRAINING FOCUS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ONGOING TRAINING OR LIKE I SAID, OTHER LESSONS LEARNED. BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE MINIMALLY HAVE TO DO FIREARMS TRAINING, WE HAVE TO DO DRIVING, WE HAVE TO DO DEFENSIVE TACTICS, BUT EVERY MONTH WE BASICALLY LOOK TO SPECIFICALLY GO TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S HANDCUFFING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND STAYING CURRENT AND NOT GETTING RUSTY ON SKILL-BASED THINGS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING THAT GOES ON. SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR CIT PROGRAM, CRITICAL INCIDENT TRAINING, DEESCALATION. SO ALL THOSE GO INTO THE TRAINING. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S MORE FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING UP TO DATE AND EVERYBODY'S GETTING THEIR TRAINING HOURS IN AND REVIEWING, UM, SOME OF OUR USE OF FORCES TO SEE WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. SO, UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE OVER OUR SUPPORT SERVICE OR I MEAN OUR PEER SUPPORT AND WELLNESS PROGRAM. THIS IS AN AREA THAT, UM, WE HAVEN'T PUT AS MUCH ATTENTION TO AND WE'RE NOT ALONE. THAT'S A LOT OF AGENCIES THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY HAD A LOT OF RESOURCES. SO WE BUILT A QUIET ROOM, DEESCALATION ROOM. THAT WAY WHEN YOU GET OFF OF, UM, FOR DISPATCHERS, YOU GET OFF OF A CALL THAT WAS HIGH STRESS THAT THEY CAN GO DEESCALATE, CALM DOWN BEFORE THE NEXT CALL COMES IN. IT HELPS WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND, YOU KNOW, SAFETY. SO WE, WE CREATED A ROOM WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GO FOR UP TO 20 MINUTES AS LONG AS WE HAVE OTHERS THAT CAN FILL IN. SAME WITH OFFICERS. SO IN THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND, UM, WE NOW CONTRACT WITH A, UM, COUNSELING GROUP TO HELP COME IN WHEN WE HAVE A CRITICAL INCIDENT AND THEY DEBRIEF US. THEY OFFER COUNSELING TO OUR OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS AND THEY'RE WELL TRAINED IN TRAUMA. SO, UM, AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, I'M SURE THAT, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH A LOT OF TRAUMATIC EVENTS THAT IF YOU DON'T TALK THROUGH AND GET COUNSELING OR HAVE PEOPLE, THEN UM, THOSE ARE JUST PILING ON TILL ONE DAY IT CAN BECOME EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY. SO, UM, WE, WE ARE BUILDING THAT PROGRAM. WE'RE ALSO BUILDING THE RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET TO FULL STAFF RIGHT BEHIND IT, SOMEBODY RETIRING, MOVING ON TO ANOTHER AGENCY. SO IT'S AN ONGOING, UM, BATTLE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT. SO NOW WE'VE DEDICATED THAT SAME PERSON TO HAVE A FOCAL POINT TO HELP US, UM, STAY CLOSER TO FULL STAFF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. CHIEF A QUESTION ON THE TRAUMATIC EVENTS. LIKE WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SORT OF LIKE THE LOW END? I CAN IMAGINE WHAT A HIGH END TRAUMATIC EVENT WOULD BE LIKE, BUT LIKE WHAT'S, WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE AT THE LOWER END OF THE INTENSITY SCALE THAT'S GONNA CAUSE AN OFFICER OR A DISPATCHER TO NEED TO MAKE USE OF THAT DEESCALATION OR, I'M JUST CURIOUS. YEAH, SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE ONE THAT IS COMMON AND IT CAN VARY. UM, DEATH CALLS. SO WE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMEBODY THAT, UM, PASSED AWAY OF JUST CIRCUMSTANCE OR SUICIDE OR CHILD INFANT DEATH, THOSE ARE TRAUMATIC IN NATURE FOR THE PERSON THAT WAS ON THE CALL TRYING TO HELP WITH CPR TECHNIQUES OR CALMING THE PERSON THAT'S CALLING, OH MY GOSH, THEY'RE NOT BREATHING THEN THAT IS A TRAUMATIC EVENT AT, I WOULD SAY TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MORE OF A LOWER LEVEL THAN [05:30:01] A SHOOTING OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE SAYING WOULD BE HIGHER. UM, SO A A LOT OF IT CAN JUST BE, YOU KNOW, A DEATH CALL, A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, A CRIME INVOLVING A CHILD OF SOME SORT OF SEX ASSAULT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THOSE, THOSE ARE ONES WHERE SOMEBODY THAT ANSWERED THAT CALL IS STAYING ON THE PHONE UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS THERE. THEN THE PEOPLE THAT GET THERE ARE DEALING WITH WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE THEM NOT TAKE THAT HOME WITH THEM AND GO INTO THEIR HOME LIVES OR CARRY TO THE NEXT CALL HEALTH. HOW FI MEAN, I I GET THE TWICE DAILY REPORTS, RIGHT? UM, BUT HOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, WHAT WOULD YOU ESTIMATE THE FREQUENCY TO BE OF THESE TRAUMATIC EVENTS OCCURRING? LIKE HOW, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS IT CAN BE ON A SCALE FROM MAYBE LESS TO HIGHER. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY, AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU MY BEST GUESSTIMATE IS SOME OF THESE LAYER ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. SO YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD ANY COUNSELING OR TREATMENT AND WE MIGHT HAVE BURIED IT, MOVED ON TO THE NEXT CALL, STAYED TOUGH, NOT CRY, DONE WHAT WE DO, RIGHT? THAT, UM, GETS US THROUGH EVERY DAY AND THEN WE GO TO SOMETHING THAT REMINDED US OF 10 CALLS AGO AND NOW WE'RE STUCK IN A LOOP, RIGHT? SO IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE SOMETHING THAT'S RELATED THAT REALLY WOULD REQUIRE THAT, BUT OUR TRAUMA REACHED A MAX OVERLOAD OR SOMETHING REMINDED US. AND SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO SOMETHING PREVIOUS. SO I WOULD SAY EASILY YOU COULD HAVE ONE TO FOUR A MONTH WHERE DEPENDING ON THE PERSON AND WHAT TRAUMA AND HOW MANY TRAUMA EVENTS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH MIGHT NEED TO REACH OUT AND TALK. AND THAT'S NOT GOING THROUGH JUST REGULAR LIFE STUFF. MAYBE THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE FALLEN BEHIND ON BILLS, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T WANT THEM BRINGING IT THE OTHER WAY TO NOW WORK AND LAYING IT OUT ONE TO FOUR A MONTH PER PERSON OR ACROSS THE BOARD. ACROSS THE BOARD. OKAY. JUST TRY ACTUALLY, I REALLY HOPE NOT ONE PER PERSON, BUT I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE A BAD MONTH. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH. RIGHT. LIKE WHAT, WHAT WHAT IS THE TOLL? YEAH. AND I WOULD OF DOING WHAT YOU DO. YEAH. SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD GIVE YOU MINIMALLY THAT IT, I WOULD SAY FOUR BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WE, WE DEAL WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WE DEAL WITH COLLISIONS. RIGHT. THAT ARE, THAT CAN BE PRETTY GORY, YOU KNOW, UM, SO EASILY I WOULD, I WOULD SAY FOUR COULD, COULD BE A SAFE NUMBER THAT I WOULDN'T FEEL THAT I WAS EXAGGERATING OR UNDERPLAYING. RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHIEF, HOW IS THIS COMPANY THAT YOU'RE USING FOR THE, ITS PEER SUPPORT COMPARED TO YOU HAD SOME REALLY HIGH TRAINED VOLUNTEERS ON SITE, UH, THAT WERE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR, I BELIEVE, OR IS THIS COMPANY HIGHER LEVEL? YOU KNOW, SO ACT I THINK MIGHT BE WHO YOU'RE REFERRING TO. UM, THAT THAT IS A VOLUNTEER SERVICE THAT'S IN THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD SAY THE DIFFERENCE IS, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE PD IS SOME VOLUNTEERS. CAROL ALFO BEING THERE. SHE DOESN'T COUNSEL FOR US. SHE DOESN'T, OKAY. THAT'S NO, NO, NO. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS THAT PROVIDE COUNSELING TO US WITHIN OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THEN I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE OUTSOURCE SERVICE AND UM, I'LL JUST FINISH THAT STATEMENT. THEY, THEY DEAL IN TRAUMA AND THEY ARE USED TO DEALING WITH PUBLIC SERVANTS SUCH AS FIRE AND POLICE BECAUSE, UM, WE JUST, WE GO THROUGH OUR, OUR INCIDENCES AND CALLS FOR SERVICE MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN I WOULD SAY, UM, SOME OTHER PROFESSIONS. AND AS, UH, BRIAN ALLUDED TO THE, THE TWICE DAILY REPORTS THAT WE GET, I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE DEATH AND HOME. MM-HMM . OKAY. THE DISPATCHER HAS TO HANDLE THAT. IT'S HEART WRENCHING. THE OFFICERS THAT GO THERE ALONG WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT GO THERE. IT'S DEFINITELY HEART WRENCHING. SO I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I PICKED THAT ONE. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S YEAH. ONE THAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN MORE AND, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD BE AS TRAUMATIC BASED, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . WHEN YOU GO TO THE HOUSE AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S PASSED AWAY, SOMETIMES DELAYED, UM, THEIR SMELLS, IMAGES, AND, AND THOSE GO IN. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED WITH RUSS AND HR AND HE'S BEEN GREAT ON HELPING GET SOME RESOURCES AND MAKING IT LESS TOUGH ON THE OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE INSURANCE TO DO THAT. SO WE'VE REALLY STREAMLINED IT SO THAT WE DON'T GET PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDING THAT SERVICE, BUT NOW THEY'RE INUNDATED WITH PAPERWORK AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS AND END UP SAYING, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. JUST FORGET IT AND HANGING UP THE PHONE. SO NOW WE'VE GOT A MUCH BETTER PROCESS. CHIEF, I MISSED THE DAYS THAT, UH, YOU WERE ON P-S-P-R-S WITH ME, , UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GREAT TRACK RECORD AND WE IN P-S-P-R-S HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF DISABILITY STUFF. UM, BUT I'M ASSUMING FROM ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE JUST SAID, THAT SOME OF THIS PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM WILL HELP SORT OF ELIMINATE [05:35:02] OR REDUCE A CHANCE THAT WE HAVE A OFFICER WHO MIGHT BE STRUGGLING AND END UP GETTING ON A, A DISABILITY IF WE CATCH THINGS EARLIER, WE COULD DO BETTER. IS THAT CORRECT? IF THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTIVATION FOR THAT IS, AND AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT MAKES ME GO BACK TO A TIME WHEN WE WERE ON THERE. I THINK, UM, COUNSELOR KIN YOU WERE THERE TOO, WHERE WE HAD AN INCIDENT AND THAT'S WHERE IT WAS LIKE, MAN, WE GOTTA GET BETTER RESOURCES 'CAUSE MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THIS FAR. YEAH, RIGHT. SOME WILL DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INCIDENT. BUT YES, THAT IS PART OF WHY WE NEEDED TO GET BETTER AND HAVE MORE SERVICES FOR PEOPLE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR YOU SAY. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE ON. SO LAST YEAR WE ASKED FOR ANOTHER POSITION FOR A VICTIM ADVOCATE. SO THAT PROGRAM'S UP AND RUNNING, SHE'S DOING WELL. UM, SHE SHARES AN OFFICE OVER IN LEGAL, UM, BASED ON HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S MOSTLY RIGHT NOW POST INTERACTIONS THAT SHE'S HAVING VERSUS GOING TO A SCENE. UM, SO SHE'S DOING WELL. SHE'S GONE AND TRAINED WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE A VICTIM ADVOCACY PROGRAM. SHE'S GONE TO A CONFERENCE. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE'RE ALREADY SEEING IT WORKING WHERE SHE'S CONTACTED VICTIMS. UM, SOMETIMES THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR MIND WHERE THEY INITIALLY DIDN'T WANNA AID IN PROSECUTION. NOW THEY ARE BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE SOMEBODY HELP 'EM GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE 'CAUSE I WANTED YOU TO SEE IT. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP AND I THINK PROVIDE, UM, REALLY GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. IS THAT LARGELY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. RIGHT NOW THOSE HAVE BEEN THE CALLS THAT SHE HAS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FRAUDULENT AREAS THAT SHE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIST TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY TAKES YOUR IDENTITY AND THAT'S OVERWHELMING HOW MANY THINGS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH. SOCIAL SECURITY, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP WITH A LOT OF THAT AS WELL. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, YES, IT'S MOSTLY BEEN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. OKAY. SO, UM, SIREN EMERGENCY. WHAT'S THAT? SIREN PILOTS. YEAH. YEAH. SO I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO A LOT OF THE MEETINGS THAT HAVE COME UP, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S SOME CONCERNS BY OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'LL, I'LL TOUCH ON SOME OF THAT AS WELL. BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE AN UPDATE THAT WE STILL ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO GET THE PILOT SIREN SYSTEM IN PLACE, UM, WITH COCONINO COUNTY THROUGH, LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE, THE GRANT. SO THAT IS STILL ONGOING. UM, THEY WERE PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR RFP AND THEY'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS CODE FOR COLOR, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST SOME OF THE THINGS WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MORE. SO THAT IS STILL ONGOING. WHEN I GET MORE UPDATES, OF COURSE I WILL UPDATE YOU ALL ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. LOCATION, TIMING. UM, YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF TIMING AT THIS POINT? NO, I THINK THE LAST THAT, UM, WES TOLD ME WAS THAT HE WAS IN THAT PROCESS OF TRYING TO FINISH UP THE RFP. HE IS LEAVING IN JANUARY FROM COCONINO COUNTY, BUT HE HAS ALREADY NAMED SOME OF THE SUCCESSORS AND ALREADY STARTED, UM, HANDING OFF SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HE HAS. SO WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S AWARE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, PILOT SIREN SYSTEM THAT WILL CONTINUE ON WITH IT. SO, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DELAYS, BUT A LOT OF THE DELAYS ARE LIKE WE'RE ALL USED TO FOR EQUIPMENT AND, AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR PROCESSES TO PICK WHICH COMPANY AND SIREN YOU'RE GONNA GO WITH, UM, FOR THE FEDERAL GRANT MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES WITH IT. SO, UM, I IS HE RETIRING? YES, HE'S A, HE LIVES IN STER, DOESN'T HE? WEST? WEST? NO, I THINK HE LIVES UP IN FLAGSTAFF. OKAY. YEAH. UM, I THINK IT WAS BRYCE THAT I HEARD EARLIER TODAY. TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE AMERICORPS AND WE RECENTLY, AND I KNOW, UM, MAYOR YOU WERE THERE AND COUNCILOR CONSER, YOU WERE AT ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT THEY HAD HOSTED THAT WE ALSO PRESENTED IN. SO OUR EFFORTS ARE ONGOING TO BRING AWARENESS TO THE COMMUNITY. I WILL SAY THERE'S STILL A STRUGGLE WITH GETTING PEOPLE TO ATTEND AND SO THAT THE WORD SPREADS MORE. 'CAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, UM, UNTIL IT'S NEEDED OR THERE'S A REMINDER OUT THERE, IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO COME FOR THE PRE INFORMATIVE SIDE OF IT. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO KEEP PUSHING THE MESSAGE PREPAREDNESS, GETTING THEM SIGNED UP FOR DIFFERENT SYSTEMS SO THAT WHEN AN EMERGENCY HAPPENS, THEY'LL GET EVERYTHING AND, AND WE'RE READY TO GO. SO, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD COME UP THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THE DIFFERENT ONGOING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. HOTELS, UM, SOME OTHER THINGS COMING IN PO THE POTENTIAL OF ANNEXATION. SO WHEN, WHEN WE ARE DOING THOSE, WE ARE LOOKING TO REVAMP AND LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PLAN SO THAT WE CAN KNOW DO WE HAVE TO UPDATE TRAVEL TIMES FOR THOSE EVACUATIONS AND REENTRY. UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S, THERE IS A LOT OF ONGOING, YOU KNOW, WORK. [05:40:01] SO WE, WE GOT IT TO A POINT WE UPDATED, YOU KNOW, WE LED IN A LOT OF AREAS THAT NOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO MODEL AFTER OURS, BUT THE WORK IS NEVER GONNA BE DONE. IT IS ONGOING FOR UPDATES. WE WILL CONTINUE TRAINING, WE'LL HOST TABLETOPS. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING FOR WITHIN THE PD AND FIRE SO THAT WE CAN GET EVEN MORE TRAINING AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO ONE THAT'S MORE CITYWIDE OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL BE INVOLVED SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO GROW. SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT IN AN EMERGENCY WONDERING WHAT OUR ROLES ARE OR HOW IT'S GONNA PLAY OUT. YOU'LL HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE AS WELL. UM, BUT YES, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ANNEXATION AREAS, WHAT THAT WILL BE ON, ON STAFF RESOURCES AND WHERE, WHERE WE MIGHT NEED. AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE REALLY, YOU KNOW, BEEN UM, YOU KNOW, NOODLING IS THE, THE NEED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR BECAUSE BETWEEN THE PD AND SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS, UM, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, BOTH COUNTIES, UM, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FIREWISE, THE FIRE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COORDINATE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ME AS, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR MAIN PERSON AS FAR AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENTS, WHEN THINGS COME UP UP AND OF COURSE I'M GONNA WORK IN OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH SEDONA FIRE AND ADOT AND, AND A LOT A PS AND A LOT OF OTHERS. I THINK HAVING A COORDINATOR TO ACTUALLY START HELPING IN THESE AREAS TO UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE RESOURCES IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NEEDED. I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE WE'RE IN TWO COUNTIES, THERE'S A LOT OF EXTRA MEETINGS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YAVAPAI, WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO COCOA. WHEREAS YOU MIGHT NORMALLY HAVE THIS SET OF MEETINGS NOW DOUBLE IT. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT ARE GOING ON AND THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH I'M PULLED OR THE DEPUTY CHIEF, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S DEDICATED TO MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING IN ALL THOSE OTHER MEETINGS AND UPDATES. AND, UM, I KNOW RECENTLY ON MONDAY, I ALMOST SAID YESTERDAY TOO, UM, BUT ON MONDAY YOU, OR NO, YESTERDAY YOU APPROVED THE UM, UH, THE IGA THAT WAS AN UPDATE, RIGHT? SO THOSE COME OUT. UM, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT AS CLOSE TO, TO END DATES WHEN THOSE THINGS COME OUT. THAT THERE'S, THERE'S CONSTANT TRACKING. SO WITH THAT IGA, THAT'S GONNA BE AN UPDATE TO THE PLAN AS WELL THAT WE'LL HAVE TO PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS A NEW FORM AND DOCUMENT. SO DO YOU MIND, UM, THANK YOU CHIEF, UH, REGARDING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR POSITION THAT YOU MENTIONED. YOU AND I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. I WAS WONDERING, UM, DO YOU SEE THAT AS A FULL-TIME POSITION, A PART-TIME POSITION, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SHARED ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF MAYBE SUSTAINABILITY OR SOMETHING? I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT. WELL, I WOULD SAY MINIMALLY, I THINK WE COULD START OUT WITH IT BEING PART-TIME AND REALLY LOOKING AT WHERE IT CAN GROW. 'CAUSE I THINK ULTIMATELY IF WE'RE USING IT RIGHT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA GROW INTO A FULL-TIME. BECAUSE LIKE I HEARD SOME OF YOU DISCUSS EARLIER, OUR FIRE DANGER IS ONE OF THE BIG HAZARDS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK, ONGOING WORK IT, THIS PERSON COULD HELP WITH COORDINATING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WITH EVEN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABILITY ON EDUCATION, FIREWISE AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I SAY MINIMALLY IT'S, IT'S A PART-TIME. I COULD SEE IT BEING ABLE TO GROW INTO THE FULL-TIME, BUT I THINK SINCE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING NEW, LET'S START WITH PART-TIME AND START PRIORITIZING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND AGAIN, EVERY YEAR. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS IT. DOES. WHERE DO YOU THINK IT BELONGS? IN WHAT DEPARTMENT? I THINK THAT'S UP FOR DEBATE. I, I THINK BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, I AM IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATING PLAN AND WHEN AN INCIDENT HAPPENS, I THINK IT PROBABLY AT THIS POINT WOULD BE BETTER TO INITIALLY START OUT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND COORDINATE WITH OTHER ENTITIES. CHIEF, CHIEF, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COORDINATING WITH THE TWO, THE TWO COUNTIES, DOES THE FOREST SERVICE LAW ENFORCEMENT PLAY IN THOSE COUNTY MEETINGS? OR IS THAT A, IS THAT A THIRD MEETING THAT PERHAPS YOU NEED TO TAKE ON WHEN ABLE? UM, I WOULD SAY PRIMARILY WHEN, WHEN WE'RE AT THE TABLE COORDINATING, ESPECIALLY INITIALLY OR WE'RE DOING THESE TRAININGS, UM, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT WE'RE PROBABLY HAVING THE COUNTIES IN THERE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, ADOT AND APS, LIKE I SAID. BUT OF COURSE THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME. IT JUST DEPENDS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK AS YOU'RE AWARE, THEY, THEY HURT FOR STAFFING AND OTHER RESOURCES AS WELL. SO SO THEY JUST ARE OTHERWISE OCCUPIED. THEY WOULD BE THERE IF THEY COULD, BUT THEY'RE NOT. YEAH. AND WHEN WE'VE HAD AN INCIDENT, THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE TAKING LEAD. YOU KNOW, ON ONE OF THE, I THINK IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN WE HAD THE, THE FIRE FROM FLAG COMING DOWN NEAR 1 79. IS THAT RFA SLIDE ROCK SLIDE FIVE? NO, NOT THE RFA RA I THINK IT WAS RAFAEL, THE 8 89 A NOT SEVEN NINE. YEAH, SORRY. UM, THAT WAS US FOREST SERVICE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS TAKING LEADS. SO WE [05:45:01] WERE DOING A LOT OF OUR BRIEFINGS OVER OFF THE, AT THEIR RANGER STATION OFF 1 79 IS WHERE MY, MY MIND WAS GOING WITH THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE LEADS, SO, SO ABSOLUTELY THEY'RE AT THE TABLE. IT'S HOW MANY OF THE MEETINGS CAN THEY ATTEND AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW THAT, THAT FORM OF PARTICIPATION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONGOING TRAININGS AND YOU KNOW, THESE PLANNING SESSIONS, LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT PLAN AND MAKING REVISIONS, THAT'S MUCH TOUGHER. YEAH, I MUST IMAGINE THAT THERE'S A A COMMON SET OF PEOPLE THAT YOU END UP BOTH DEALING WITH AND SO SOME COORDINATION THERE IS, IS A GOOD THING. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY, TALKING ABOUT, UH, COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS IS THAT, UH, LET'S RUN A TEST. WHO KNOWS YOUR ZONE? I'M FOR TWO. TWO, MAYOR, WHAT'S YOUR ZONE? WHAT'S MY ZONE? UH, 12. I THINK IT'S 12 OR 14. WE HAVE FOUR ACROSS THE STREET FROM TWO. YOU'RE 12. FOUR. WHY I PAY ATTENTION. RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I WANNA GIVE KUDOS BECAUSE I THINK AS A CITY WE'VE REALLY PUSHED THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH ANDY, KURT, UM, RYAN HAYES, LIKE PUTTING IT ON THE STREET SIGNS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO EVERYBODY. AND EVEN THE CONVERSATIONS YOU'RE DOING ARE MAKING THAT RIGHT NOW. IT'S HELPING, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST NEED TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO SOME OF THESE PREPAREDNESS MEETINGS. UM, SO WE'LL KEEP WORKING THROUGH HOW TO, I GOTTA TELL YOU, THAT MEETING THAT I ATTENDED AT THE LIBRARY WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE. I KNEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS COMING OUT, BUT THE PEOPLE WERE FOCUSED ON YOU AND THE FIRE MARSHAL FROM SEDONA FIRE. IT WAS, BUT THERE WAS ONLY FIVE PEOPLE THERE. AND IT WAS DISHEARTENING WHEN THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT THEY WERE GATHERING, BUT I WISH WE COULD REPLICATE THAT ALL OVER THE CITY. THANK YOU. I I DO AS WELL. YOUR SESSION HAD FIVE, I THINK IN YOURS. WE DOUBLED IT. YEAH, SO WELL THEY LIKE YOU . OH, IT WAS THE EVENING ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO HELPED. AND UM, IT WAS A, IT WAS A BIGGER SPACE AS WELL, . BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT IT THEN AROUND 20 ON THAT DAY ATTENDED, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK OF OUR NUMBERS, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO REACH OUT MORE AND GET PEOPLE REALLY INVESTED IN. THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THAT DAY THOUGH, ABOUT DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE THINKING THAT WE ARE PUSHING INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE, BUT SHOULDN'T WE GO TO WHERE THEY ARE INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM TO COME TO US OR ACTUALLY WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THEM TO US AND WE SHOULD PUSH OUT. WELL, AND I, AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE COORDINATOR CAN HELP. MAYBE GO TO SOME HOA MEETINGS, GO DOWN TO BREWER, GO TO NEDY HILL, RIGHT? LIKE TALK TO SOME OF THE, THE PEOPLE. MAYBE IT'S A DOOR TO DOOR WITH SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND ACTUALLY KNOCK ON SOME DOORS. MAYBE IT'S ANNOYING, BUT IT'LL BE GOOD IN THE END. UM, AND GO TO SOME OF THESE AREAS, YOU KNOW, UPTOWN THAT ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE MORE VOCAL OF CONCERNS, RIGHT? THAT ARE, UM, REPETITIVE IN, IN NOT WANTING THIS TO LOSE FOCUS AND IT'S NOT LOSING FOCUS, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT WAS DESIGNATED MAYBE MORE TO ANSWER ONGOING QUESTIONS OR GO TO DOOR TO DOOR AND, AND HELP OUT FIND ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO, TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE. CAN WE POSSIBLY USE, UH, IF ANNETTE AGREES TO THIS, USE LAUREN AND HER TEAM TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. AGAIN, MAYBE MAKE IT A QUARTERLY DISTRIBUTION, MAYBE ANOTHER MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT FOR YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND THEN PUT, PUT OUT THE, UH, GRAPHIC THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE, UH, LOGOS AND THE, UH, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? THE QR CODES THAT ARE ON THE, THE, UM, POLES AT THE INTERSECTIONS. LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT IS. AGAIN, ANDY, I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION THAT THIS YEAR WE'LL BE DOING CURBSIDE, UH, CURBSIDE YARD WASTE COLLECTION AGAIN. AND THE KNOW YOUR ZONE EVENT DOES GET PUSHED OUT WITH THAT BECAUSE THE ZONES ARE THE SAME. RIGHT. BUT PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW THAT. BUT THE MESSAGING, WE, WE INCLUDE BOTH ITEMS. THAT'D BE GREAT. YEP. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONGOING. I JUST WANTED TO REASSURE YOU, UM, IT IS ALWAYS ON OUR MINDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING UP WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND US AND DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING OUT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING AT, AT WHERE WE ARE AND, AND BEING ABLE TO MEET ALL THOSE NEEDS AND STAY ON TOP OF IT IS WHY I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. SO, UH, LET'S SEE. WELL THAT WAS PART OF IT, THE CONTINUED COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS TRAININGS. AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS ON THE, THE CURRENT BUILD BUILD OF OUR FOUR NEW PATROL VEHICLES, WE PUT ON, UM, EMITTERS, UM, WHICH BASICALLY HELP CHANGE THE LIGHTS, THE, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL LIGHTS, THE RED AND YOU KNOW, OR THE GREEN, YELLOW RED LIGHTS AT INTERSECTIONS. UM, WE PUT THESE ON OUR CARS SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE IT IN EMERGENCY, UM, TO GET THROUGH THEM BETTER. UM, SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAD 'EM, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEVICE THAT WE USE AT SOME OF THE, THE GATES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALL [05:50:01] FAMILIAR, BUT THERE WAS THAT KNOCK BOX SYSTEM THAT, AND A, AND A KEY THAT IN, IN GATED COMMUNITIES OR A PRIVATE GATE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD GO OUT AND PUT THAT. SO WE COULD STILL ENTER THESE DIFFERENT AREAS SHOULD THERE BE AN EMERGENCY FIRE, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STARTED UPDATING THAT TO AN EMITTER SYSTEM, WHICH IS A LIGHTING SYSTEM. SO WE NEED TO ALSO UPDATE OUR SYSTEM BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE, UH, GATES DON'T HAVE, UM, US, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE OUR KEY ACCESS TO GET IN. SO WE'RE, WE USE THESE NEW FOUR CARS THAT ARE COMING IN TO PUT THAT IN AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, UM, GOING FORWARD TO PUT THAT IN 'CAUSE IT'S EASIER TO, TO DO THE BUILD OR IF WE NEED TO GO BACKWARDS AND LOOK AT, UM, PUTTING 'EM IN SOME OF OUR NEWER VEHICLES SO THAT THEY STAY UPDATED FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. BUT IS, ARE THEY PORTABLE ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN SHINE WHERE THEY NEED TO SHINE AT THE RIGHT TIME? NO. SO WE CAN DO IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN WE'RE AT A GATE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THIS CLOSE, BUT THAT SAME SYSTEM CAN'T WORK AT INTERSECTIONS. IT DOESN'T HAVE THE RANGE. I'M CURIOUS WITH, I THINK IT WAS PROP THREE 14 THAT WAS JUST PASSED WITH MAKING IT A STATE LAW TO ILLEGALLY ENTER THE COUNTRY. HAS THERE BEEN ANY, HAS THE STATEWIDE PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED, UH, HAS ANYBODY STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN? OH, WELL THERE'S, I MEAN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN I FIGURED I I THINK IT'S ONGOING AND YOU KNOW, IT IS BEING REVIEWED. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE A GROUP, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, YOU KNOW, FOR MUNICIPALITIES HAVE A GROUP. SO, UM, THERE'S LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND PREPARING FOR WHATEVER IT'S GONNA MEAN. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, HOW IS MORGAN ROAD ENFORCEMENT GOING? WELL, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK THAT. SO I HAD IT READY FOR TOMORROW WHEN I GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU NOW, UM, BECAUSE I, LIKE I SAID, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT, SO WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN, BUT WE PUT, UM, A SIGN UP, A PORTABLE MESSAGE BOARD SO THAT EVERYBODY KNEW, UM, WE DID SOME INITIAL IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WARNING, UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A SINGLE VIOLATION THAT WE'VE GIVEN A WARNING OR A TICKET. SO THE SIGNS HELPED. SO THE SIGN HELPED US BEING OUT THERE SEEMS TO DO IT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE FOR THE OHB WOULD BE ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT WE'RE DOING IT THE ENTIRE WEEKDAY, RIGHT. WE'RE PRIORITIZING, AS WE HAD SAID, FOR SIX WEEKS TO BE OUT THERE AND REALLY, UM, GET A GOOD GRASP. SO, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC ISN'T OHB OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. UM, A LOT OF IT'S, UM, JEEPS, SO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE COME OUT TO ASK AND THE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN INFORMATIVE TO LET THEM KNOW THIS ISN'T ABOUT JEEPS OR OTHER VEHICLES. IT REALLY IS JUST ABOUT OHV. UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY VIOLATIONS YET THAT HAVE BEEN CITED OR GIVEN A WARNING, BUT IT DOES SEEM SUCCESSFUL WITH US BEING OUT THERE AS A VISUAL REMINDER. THANK YOU. THANKS MAYOR. CHIEF, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S YOUR STAFFING LEVEL LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS SWORN OFFICERS GO? YOU HAVE OPENINGS LIKE AS A PERPETUAL CHALLENGE, LIKE WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE CURRENT PULSE LOOK LIKE ON THAT? SO WE ARE DOWN, UM, I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT FIVE NOW THAT WE'RE EXPECTING WHERE WE WERE THINKING THAT AFTER, UM, THE RECRUITS THAT WERE GRADUATING ON THURSDAY, THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL. BUT WE HAVE AN OFFICER WITH 19 YEARS ON WITH OUR CITY THAT'S GETTING READY TO RETIRE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. ANOTHER ONE THAT'S, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING TO FLORIDA AND JOINING A, A DEPARTMENT OVER THERE. UM, WE JUST HAD ONE CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, OR RECENTLY RESIGNED. SO TWO OF THE, ONE OF THOSE WE KNEW OF BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF, OF RETIREMENT ONE, YOU KNOW, WHERE HE WAS RELOCATING THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAPPENS, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS BEST FOR THEM. AND THEN THE ONE THAT RESIGNED WAS UNFORTUNATE, RIGHT? THAT WE DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING. SO, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE VACANCIES, WE HAVE TWO THAT WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GRADUATING THE ACADEMY. WE SENT THREE IN, TWO ARE GONNA GRADUATE. UM, AND WE HAVE ONE THAT'S STILL IN THE BACKGROUND TO GO TO THE NEXT ACADEMY. AND THE REASON WHY NEW HIRES ARE SO HARD AS FAR AS OFFICERS IS BECAUSE IT TAKES A YEAR TO GET 'EM ON THE ROAD TO, TO ANSWER CALLS FOR SERVICE SOLELY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO PUSH TRYING TO FIND IF WE CAN GET SOME LATERALS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA THAT UM, THEN WE HAVE A BETTER MIXTURE AND WE DON'T HAVE A REVOLVING DOOR OF NEW COMING THROUGH THAT TAKES SO MUCH LONGER TO GET TRAINED UP AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY GET AT A LEVEL WHERE YOU, YOU NEED THEM TO BE. SO, UM, [05:55:01] WE LOST I THINK FROM LAST YEAR WHEN, UM, YOU ALSO GAVE THAT, UH, SECOND MOTOR POSITION. SO THAT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL WHEN WE HAD TWO ON A MOTORCYCLE. WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW THAT WAS SELECTED TO BE THE NEXT MOTOR OFFICER, BUT IS WAITING FOR THE CLASS TO GO THROUGH IN FEBRUARY. SO, YOU KNOW, LOSING THAT PERSON WAS TOUGH TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY CHALLENGING AND I THINK SOME OF WHAT MAKES IT CHALLENGING IS THE HOUSING SITUATION. SO, YOU KNOW, USING PEOPLE WITHIN, UM, OUR COMMUNITY TO WANT TO JOIN THIS PROFESSION WHEN THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE A CAREER IS HARD. BUT TO GET SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT MOVE UP FROM THE VALLEY OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN NOW WE'RE GOING INTO WHERE ARE THEY GONNA LIVE, THE AFFORDABILITY OF IT. AND SO WE REACH A LOT OF CHALLENGES OUTSIDE OF EVEN JUST BATTLING THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE ALSO LOOKING. AND SO WE TRY AND BE COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE SALARIES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXTRAS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HAVING A TAKE HOME CAR SO THAT WE CAN ALSO BE, UM, ATTRACTIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE TO WANNA WORK HERE. UM, SO OKAY. THANK YOU. I, I GUESS FOR BUDGET SEASON, IT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE, IF YOU COME UP WITH ANY NEW IDEAS, ANY NEW ASKS THAT COULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR HOW TO HELP YOU KEEP STAFFING LEVELS UP, THAT SORT OF THING. LIKE I, I WOULD BE, I, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT LIKE, GOSH, IF WE COULD ONLY DO X, YOU KNOW, I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THAT IS TO, TO HELP US HAVE THE, THE STAFFING LEVEL THAT YOU'RE SEEKING. THANK YOU. AND I, AND I DO PLAN TO, TO BRING MORE INFORMATION, HAVE, I KNOW YOU ALL ENJOY SOME DATA, SO, UH, THEY DO. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL BRING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF MAYBE WHAT IS IS AN ASK OR, YOU KNOW, WANT, AND THEN SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. UM, BECAUSE I, I DO BELIEVE OUR COMMUNITY IS, IS HAPPY WITH THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE. YOU KNOW, WE ARE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH SOME OF THE CALLS THAT WE'LL DO OR SOME OF THE, THE EXTRAS, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP YOUR TRASH CAN AS WE'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OTHER POLICE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME ON A RIDE ALONG AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU GUYS DO THAT. YEAH, WE DO THAT. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE BUILD TRUST AND, AND COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SO, UM, SO I'LL, I'LL HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK TO HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITY HAPPY AND THE SERVICES AT A LEVEL WHERE WE WANT TO BE, EVEN AS WE'RE GROWING AND ADDING THESE OTHER PROJECTS OR ANNEXATION FOR US TO STAY AFLOAT AND NOT LOSE SERVICE. THAT'S, THAT'S MY GOAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO CHIEF ON TOP OF THAT, UH, SOMETHING I ASKED ABOUT LAST YEAR AND EITHER THIS DURING THIS PROCESS OR THE BUDGET PROCESS AND REMINDED ME WHEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT YEARS AGO AND THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED AND RIGHT. MINIMUM STAFFING AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, WE GET THESE REPORTS DAILY AND YOUR EMPTY SPOT, EMPTY SPOT, EMPTY SPOT, YOUR MINIMUM STAFFING FROM WHAT I REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR WAS BACK FROM 2006 BEFORE, DURING THE, THE LAYOFFS THAT OCCURRED WAY BACK THEN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALSO THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP EVEN ONE MORE SPOT FOR MINIMUM STAFFING. AND IT REALLY RANG TRUE TO ME AFTER THE INCIDENT THIS PAST WEEKEND, WHICH WAS, COULD HAVE BEEN FAR WORSE THAN IT WAS. UNFORTUNATELY, NOBODY REALLY GOT HURT. SO I'M WONDERING IF, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO RAISE YOUR MINIMUM STAFFING AND EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE DOWN FIVE SPOTS, DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO FILL THOSE EMPTY SPOTS. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEPEND WHETHER THE DPS OR YOU OUT BY COUNTY THAT FORTUNATELY WAS DRIVING BY AND ABLE TO HELP, WE, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T NEED THAT OFFICER. WELL I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT. SO YES. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'LL PUT TOGETHER AS SOME OF THE DATA FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL. 'CAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS OR LATE TWO THOUSANDS, OUR, OUR STAFFING LEVEL WAS SET AT 32 FOR SWORN MM-HMM . WE WENT DOWN TO 29 AFTER THAT IN 2009. AND THEN LAST YEAR YOU GRANTED ME ONE MORE POSITION TO MAKE IT 30. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN BACK TO THE ALLOTTED NUMBERS THAT WERE PRE 2009, WHICH WAS 32. SO WE SIT AT 30, THAT'S ALLOTTED WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK OVER TO OUR NEIGHBOR AGENCY, THEY'RE ALLOTTED, I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, I THINK IT'S 36 OR 38. SO, AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE VERY SIMILAR WITH WHAT THE NEEDS ARE EXCEPT FOR WE HAVE A LOT MORE VISITORS AND WE ARE GROWING HOTELS AND WE'RE DOING OTHER THINGS AND WE'RE STILL SITTING AT BELOW THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD OVER 15 YEARS AGO. SO, WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT NUMBER. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DAILY STAFFING NUMBER. SO YOU HAVE TWO ON PATROL OR THREE, BUT THIS SHOULD BE A, PERHAPS A FOURTH ONE AT LEAST TO FILL THAT EMPTY SPOT. SO WHEN WE, WHEN I SEE THAT EMPTY [06:00:01] SPOT ON THE BULLETIN, I GET WORRIED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICER. I DON'T, I KNOW YOU DO, BUT THAT NUMBER, YOU MAYBE SHOULD NOT GO BELOW THAT. WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS ON THE SHEET. FOUR, THREE, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I'M, I FIGURED YOU WOULD. BUT WHEN YOU LOSE ONE PERSON, NOW YOU'RE AT A CRITICAL LEVEL, RIGHT? SO TO NOT HAVE IT BE SO BAD WHEN ONE PERSON CALLS OUT SICK, GETS INJURED, GOES ON A TRAINING, RIGHT? LIKE YEAH, THAT PUTS YOUR NUMBER DOWN TO LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THAT DAY, THERE WERE THREE, THERE WAS A SERGEANT AND TWO OFFICERS ON MM-HMM . SO THAT'S ONLY ONE PERSON THAT'S NOT THERE. RIGHT. THAT PUT US IN, IN A POSITION THAT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR OTHER RESOURCES. SO I AGREE, BUT THE OTHER SIDE IS TO NOT GET SO CRITICAL, WE ALSO HAVE TO INCREASE THE BASELINE NUMBER. I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. SO THAT WE DON'T GO TO, TO MINIMUMS. WELL, BECAUSE MINIMUMS HAPPEN, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CALL OUT SICK AND NOW IF SOMEBODY'S NOT PICKING UP THAT SHIFT, YOU KNOW, FOR OVERTIME OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT WORKED THE DAY SHIFT STAYS A COUPLE HOURS LATER AND THE PERSON THAT'S WORKING THE NEXT MORNING COMES IN A FEW HOURS EARLY, THAT, THAT DRAIN THAT GOES ON, YOU KNOW, IS ALSO GOING BACK TO THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH. SO I I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I THINK WE'RE SAYING IT SIMILARLY JUST, I, I KNOW YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH IT, BUT, UM, NO, THAT, THAT NEED IS THERE. SO OUR MINIMUM STAFFING IS THREE ON A SHIFT UP UNTIL CERTAIN HOURS WHERE YOU COULD GO DOWN TO TWO. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO CONTINUOUSLY AND WE CAN'T LIVE IN THOSE LEVELS. 'CAUSE A LOT OF CALLS NOWADAYS ARE TWO RESPONSE PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT JUST A SINGLE OFFICER GOING OR A SERGEANT. MOST CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE NOW MINIMALLY TWO, SOMETIMES THREE OR FOUR. AND THEN THAT'S YOUR ENTIRE SHIFT. SO IF ANYTHING ELSE COMES IN RIGHT, YOU'RE BEHIND. AND ALSO ON THESE DAILY BOLTONS, WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. MM-HMM . VERY DANGEROUS. AND I KNOW WHEN, I'M SURE WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR RADIO, WHEN THESE CALLS GO OUT, WHICH IS WHAT THIS OTHER CALL TURNED OUT TO BE DURING THE WEEKEND, IT COULD BE DISASTROUS. YOU DON'T KNOW. AND SO IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, YOU CAN, IF YOU WANNA WORK TO GET THAT NUMBER HIGHER, THE, THE MINIMUM NUMBER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. YEAH. ALSO, WHILE YOU WERE ON VACATION, UH, YOUR ACTING DEPUTY CHIEF GAVE A PHENOMENAL PRESENTATION FOR HOMELESSNESS. IT WAS THE MOST INSPIRING PRESENTATION I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. AND UH, I'M SURE YOU'RE PROBABLY WATCHING IT WHILE YOU'RE ON YOUR TRIP. NO, BUT I HEARD ABOUT IT AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT HE WAS HERE AND COULD PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND, AND BE HELPFUL. RIGHT. UM, I, I TOO BELIEVE HE DID A REALLY GREAT JOB. SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. SO IS THERE SOMETHING IN COMING IN DECISION PACKAGE OR SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE HE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN OFFICER ASSIGNED THAT ASSUMING YOU ARE FULLY STAFFED, WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER OFFICER TO DO WHAT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED WELL IN COTTONWOOD? SO SIMILAR TO WHAT COTTONWOOD DID, IT WOULD BE A NEW POSITION NOT USING WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. NO, I UNDERSTAND. SO, UM, IF BRING THAT NUMBER UP, IF YOU LIKE THAT AS AN IDEA. 'CAUSE WE LIKE IT AS AN IDEA. YES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT, BUT THAT IS A, A NEW POSITION AS WELL SO THAT THE FOCAL POINT CAN BE ON THAT. 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THAT REVOLVING, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO GO ANSWER REGULAR CALLS FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AS I BELIEVE THAT THE DEPUTY CHIEF EXPLAINED IS TO ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THIS IS THEIR, THEIR POSITION, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, THEIR JOB. SO I KNOW THE SRO WORKS FABULOUS AND HAS HELPED IN GETTING YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE PAST. IT'S THE SAME METHOD I THINK TO HAVE, DO YOU SEE THAT AS A, AN OFFICER POSITION OR A CIVILIAN POSITION? OH, FOR ME IT WOULD NEED TO BE AN OFFICER POSITION. WITHOUT A DOUBT. WITHOUT A DOUBT. BUT I WOULD, I THINK THAT'S REALLY TAKING US FAR INTO THE FUTURE THAT COULD REALLY HELP OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AND THIS PROBLEM. SO THAT'S ALL FOR MY QUESTIONS. UH, VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD A QUESTION? OH NO, I'M SORRY. UH, MELISSA, YOU HAD A QUESTION THEN? KATHY, IT'S BEEN SO LONG. I'M NOT SURE I REMEMBER. OH, I DID. UM, NO, YOU REMEMBERED. I HAD ONE. I'M NOT SURE I REMEMBER WHAT THE QUESTION IS, . SO, TO TO GO BACK THOUGH TO, TO WHAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING, UM, I THINK I'M HEARING THE FOLLOWING. SO TELL ME IF I AM CORRECT. FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE MISSING CURRENTLY A BROWN THREE OFFICER ROLES AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WHICH STILL LEAVES YOU TWO OFFICER POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN YOUR BUDGET. THAT WOULD GET YOU BACK UP TO 2009. SO IS THAT CORRECT SO FAR? CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE TWO NEW, PLUS YOU HAVE THREE EXISTING YOU NEED TO FILL. AND I ALSO HEARD THAT, UM, PART-TIME INDIVIDUAL TO DO, UH, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COORDINATION, UM, AND PROBABLY, UM, IN THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, OR IN REACH DEPENDING [06:05:01] ON WHICH WAY THE CONVERSATION'S GOING. UH, AND ALSO NOW, UM, SOMEONE WHO'S DOING, UM, HOMELESS, I DON'T KNOW, OUTREACH, IF THAT WAS THE CORRECT TERM. AND I SUSPECT OVER TIME, ONE, IT WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT, BUT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER FULL-TIME ROLE THAT'S NOT INSIDE THE SAME SCOPE AS THE FIVE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ORIGINALLY. YEAH. SO IF YOU'RE GOING WITH THE THREE THAT YOU SAID, AND THEN THERE'S TWO TO GET BACK TO JUST PLUS BASELINE PREPAREDNESS CALF AND THEN THEIR EMERGENCY COORDINATOR, THAT IS NOT A SWORN POSITION. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE OKAY. THAT WOULD BE, UM, A, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A CIVILIAN PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER, THE, UH, RESOURCE PERSON TO HELP WITH SERVICES HOMELESSNESS. THAT WOULD BE A SWORN POSITION. SO YES, THAT WOULD CORRECT. SO, SO BASICALLY YOU'D END UP FILLING THREE, REQUESTING THREE NEW SWORN OFFICER PO POSITIONS PLUS A PART-TIME CIVILIAN POSITION. THAT REPORTS CURRENTLY INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WOULD SAY YOU ARE ACCURATE FOR WHAT I HAVE SHARED THUS FAR. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. NOW I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST MAKING SURE I CAN REMEMBER ALL THE NUMBERS 'CAUSE THEY KIND OF COME IN LITTLE CLUMPS. YES. SO, UH, I, THAT ACTUALLY WAS JUST MY DELAY TACTIC SO I CAN REMEMBER WHAT MY QUESTION WAS. SO IT GOES BACK TO WHAT, UM, UH, BRIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY. AND BECAUSE HOUSING IS GONNA BE A BIG CONVERSATION WHEN WE FINALLY GET TO HOUSING. UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I KEEP SAYING WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON IS NOT JUST ESSENTIAL WORKER HOUSING, BUT CRITICAL WORKER HOUSING OF WHICH POLICE ARE ONE OF OUR CRITICAL WORKERS. AND WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY WAS WE HAVE A LACK OF HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO CRITICAL STAFF, UM, IN THE CITY. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO POTENTIALLY FILL THE THREE POSITIONS YOU HAVE PLUS POTENTIALLY TWO MORE POSITIONS, . SO, UH, AS I OWN THAT UP, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUITE A BIT OF HOUSING, RIGHT? IN ORDER TO TRY AND NOT JUST ATTRACT, BUT ALSO RETAIN, UM, INDIVIDUALS. SO, AM I FOLLOWING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD GO TO ALL MEETINGS TOGETHER. YOU'RE YOU'RE FOLLOWING ME VERY WELL, . I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD HELP YOU, BUT OKAY, THANKS. LATER. HAPPY TO HELP . ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP WHEN WE HAVE THE HOUSING CONVERSATION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ALSO NOT JUST FOCUS ON ESSENTIAL WORK, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING JUST TO SUPPORT OUR OWN, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVABILITY, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. ON THE SAME TOPIC, ANNETTE, COULD WE, FOR, UM, THE HOUSING COMPLEX THAT'S GOING UP, THE NEXT ONE GOING UP, SHELBY, ON SHELBY, COULD ONE OR TWO UNITS BE HELD FOR POLICE? DO THEY MEET, MEET THE STANDARD? I HAVEN'T SPOKEN DIRECTLY WITH THE DEVELOPER OF THAT PROJECT, BUT TYPICALLY THEY ARE VERY EXCITED IF THERE IS AN EMPLOYER THAT WANTS TO GUARANTEE SO MANY, UM, SPOTS WILL BE LEASED. THE PROBLEM I BELIEVE, WITH THE VILLAS ON SHELBY IS I THINK THEY ARE INCOME QUALIFIED. WELL, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, POLICE OFFICERS WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT. BUT IF WE HAVE OTHER, UM, NON-INCOME QUALIFYING OR THE HIGHER LEVEL ONES BEING DEVELOPED AND THE CITY WAS WILLING TO COMMIT TO LEASING X NUMBERED AS GUARANTEED, UH, AND THEY WOULD PAY THEIR OWN UNITS, GRANTS AND STUFF, THEN UM, TYPICALLY THAT HELPS THAT DEVELOPER FIND THE FINANCING BECAUSE THEY, AND, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT EXAMPLE WITH, UM, I THINK I HEARD OF A APARTMENT COMPLEX IN MAYBE IT WAS COTTONWOOD MM-HMM . WHERE THE HOSPITAL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I THINK, UM, SIGNED MASTER LEASE AGREEMENTS SO THAT THE DEVELOPER KNEW THEY HAD A GUARANTEED NUMBER OF RENTERS, UH, BEFORE THEY EVEN OPENED THE DOOR. AND THAT HELPED THEM GET THEIR FINANCING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THE BUILDING. SO I THINK ANY, UH, HOUSING, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPER WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO US ABOUT. UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN RESERVING. YOU CAN LOOK AT SPACE FOR EMPLOYEES. AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE. YEAH, NO, UM, SLATED, RIGHT? SO THERE'S THE 46 UNITS THAT WOULD GO WITH, UM, THE OXFORD SUITES PROJECT AND THE, AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ALL, ALL INCOME QUALIFIED. UH, THEY ARE AT THE HIGHER LEVEL, WHICH WOULD BE TO ME, CRITICAL WORKER QUALIFIED, RIGHT. UH, FOR AFFORDABLE. AND YOU ALSO HAVE 27 OF THE 54 UNITS GOING IN ON GOODROW, WHICH ARE NOT GOING TO BE INCOME QUALIFIED, BUT BE AFFORDABLE AGAIN FOR CRITICAL LEVEL. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THOSE TWO PROJECTS AS THEY START TO COME ONLINE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE COMMITTED, [06:10:01] UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS ARE EXACTLY WHO THE GOOD ROW DEVELOPERS. YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND TEACHERS AND, AND HEALTHCARE. AND, AND HEALTHCARE, ABSOLUTELY. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR. THE FOUR. SO THAT MIGHT WORK OUT CRITERIA. IF WE ELIMINATE THAT ONE ISSUE, IT WOULD HELP GET OVER THAT HURDLE. I MEAN, IT, IT'S ALL GONNA HELP REALLY. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ALL FIGHTING FOR THE SAME RESOURCES AND THEN AFFORDABILITY WHERE TO LIVE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR, OUR STAFF WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DON'T LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS, RIGHT. SO WE, WE ALL MOSTLY LIVE OUTSIDE, BUT EVEN THE OUTSIDE AREAS ARE BECOMING EVEN LESS AFFORDABLE. YES. BECAUSE WE'RE ON SUCH LIMITED HOUSING THAT NOW WE'RE ALL FIGHTING FOR THE SAME HOUSES AND DRIVING UP THE MARKET MORE AND MORE. SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING. AND THIS CERTAINLY WOULD BE A GREAT FIRST STEP AS WE LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS TO HELP WITH THE RETENTION AND RECRUITING. WHAT IS THE, UH, STARTING SALARY FOR A POLICE OFFICER? OH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, , CHIEF, GOSH, I DON'T KNOW. DO EITHER OF YOU KNOW OR CAN YOU LOOK IT UP ? I, I DON'T, I ACTUALLY DON'T REMEMBER, BUT IF THEY GET IT, I WILL BE HAPPILY, UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. I COULD, I SHOULD DELAY SOME AND PROBABLY DEPENDS. IT WON'T WAIT TO NEED THAT. IT'LL DEPEND ON IF THEY'RE LIKE BRAND NEW COMING OUT OF THE POLICE ACADEMY OR A LATERAL, YOU KNOW, WITH EXPERIENCE. BUT YEAH, A LOT IT, IT DOES GO INTO IT. AND IF THEY HAVE A SPECIALTY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, THAT CAN ALSO INCREASE. BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW HOW OUR SALARIES GO AS FAR AS BEGINNING, MID AND, AND HIGH. SO, UM, YEAH, IT DOES, IT DOES DEPEND. BUT I 61, 60 1000 FOR A NEW OFFICER, YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA SAY 60,000. SO THAT WAS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY AS THE MINIMUM, UH, INCOME NEEDED FOR SOME OF, TO QUALIFY EVEN, UH, FOR INCOME BASED 60,000 IS NOT THAT, IT DEPENDS, OF COURSE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE FAMILY. MM-HMM . SURE. 60 60 ABSOLUTELY FITS INSIDE OF THE CRITERIA OF THOSE TWO UNITS. YEAH. OKAY. KATHY. OKAY. I WANNA BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TO A POINT THAT, UM, THE VICE MAYOR BROUGHT UP BEFORE, AND I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR, UH, ANNETTE AND POSSIBLY OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AS WELL, WHICH IS WITH THE PROPOSITION THAT THAT PASSED, UM, INDICATES THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE A, AN ASK FOR POLICE SUPPORT FROM ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY, FEDERAL OR THE STATE ASKING ON BEHALF OF FEDERAL. SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT POLICY, WHAT GUIDES, HOW OUR VERY LIMITED POLICE FORCE IS USED FOR OUR VERY PERTINENT NEEDS. IS THAT A POLICY DISCUSSION OF THAT HAPPENS UP HERE AT THE COUNCIL? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU UNDERTAKE IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CHIEF OR HOW AT SOME POINT, AND I DON'T WANNA GET INTO IT NOW, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS NOT A DIRECT WELL, IT IS, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A BUDGET ISSUE. UM, SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LIMB, BUT I WOULD LOVE IT IF THE CHIEF, UM, RESCUED ME IF I GET TOO FAR OUT THERE, . UM, SO WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT WE HAVE POLICE POLICIES SPECIFIC TO HOW WE ENGAGE WITH, UM, ENFORCING THE STATE'S LAWS AND OUR CODES. OKAY. SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IF THIS IS A NEW STATE LAW, WHICH I'M SURE OUR POLICY ADVISORS ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AND ADVISING ALL THE POLICE AGENCIES IN THE STATE. THE SECOND THING WOULD BE ALL OF OUR MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS THAT DESCRIBE WHAT SUPPORT AND HOW WE ASSIST THOSE OTHER AGENCIES. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THOSE INCLUDE ANY KIND OF DEFINITION OF WHAT, UM, THE, UM, TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL IS THAT'S BEING ASKED TO ASSIST ON AN ARREST OR SOMETHING. AND SO I THINK THERE ARE LEGAL FRAMEWORKS ALREADY THAT WE OPERATE UNDER WHEN IT COMES TO ASSISTING OTHER AGENCIES. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE THE, UM, MECHANISMS BY WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF ANYTHING'S GONNA CHANGE, IF WE'RE ASKED TO SUPPORT, AND WHETHER THAT INCLUDES A FEDERAL, UM, AGENCY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF HOMELAND SECURITY AND ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE CONSIDERED LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES OR NOT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE. BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD LOOK TO FIND WHAT'S OUR POLICY ON HOW WE PROVIDE MUTUAL AID WHEN REQUESTED IN, UM, BY SOME OF THESE AGENCIES. SO I'D SAY AT FIRST WE'D LOOK AT IT INTERNALLY AND REVIEW IT AND SEE WHERE THAT DISCRETION FALLS. AND THEN IF WE NEED TO GET GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNCIL, WE WOULD ASK FOR GUIDANCE. I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT REALLY WELL. [06:15:01] UM, SO THAT IS, AND MM-HMM . UM, DEPUTY CHIEF, IT WILL ANSWER A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PROPOSITION JUST TO GIVE YOU MORE SINCE IT CAME BACK UP. SO IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND I JUST DON'T WANT ANYTHING SNEAKING UP ON US, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL, I CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY FROM SB 10 70. OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS DOWN IN THE VALLEY WHEN THAT KICKED OFF. THERE WAS A LOT OF LEGAL STUFF. THIS NEW PROP THAT JUST WENT THROUGH REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT US UP HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE BORDER COUNTIES AND THE BORDER AREAS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THAT FOR ENFORCEMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT WE REALLY COULDN'T PROVE UP HERE. UM, PART OF IT IS SHOWING THAT YOU KNEW THAT THEY CROSSED ILLEGALLY, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING WITH THEM, BUT ACTUALLY SEEING THE ACT IN PROGRESS. SO THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE THOSE ARE BORDER CHALLENGES MORE THAN THEY ARE UP HERE BECAUSE HERE, UM, IT WOULD BE AN ASSUMPTION. UM, AND THEY'RE REALLY, THAT IS REALLY TIERED FOR THAT SOUTHERN SECTION. AND I THINK THAT IN MY OPINION, SB 10 70 IS WHAT CRAFTED THIS THE WAY IT DID. SO IT DIDN'T AFFECT US WHERE WE WERE DOING THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT SB 10 70 WAS DOING NECESSARILY. SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T SEE US AFFECTING THE CITY OF SEDONA ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ALREADY CURRENTLY DO BUSINESS WISE. AND THEN IT WOULD JUST GO TO EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, ANNETTE STATED WITH, WE WOULD DO AN INTERNAL REVIEW IF ANY REQUESTS CAME IN AND, AND THEN GO FURTHER. 'CAUSE ASIDE FROM THE PROPOSITION, THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHANGES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REVIEW THOSE. YEAH, AS I SAID, I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT A SITUATION COMING UP WHERE THERE'S SOMETHING AND WE'RE NOT PREPARED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT ABOUT IT, LOOKED AT IT, KNOW WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION YET. SO LET'S, UM, I JUST DON'T WANT THAT SNEAKING UP ON US, AS I SAID. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU CAN MOVE ALONG CHIEF. I MEAN, WHAT ELSE? WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER PAGE I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT. YOU GOT, I DO HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE. YES. NO, THAT'S FINE. MM-HMM . SO THIS IS MORE OF THE CONTRACT JUST TO BREAKDOWN. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE. SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH SOME THAT ARE, UM, ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE AS FAR AS YAC, THAT'S WHERE, UM, WE UTILIZE OVER IN YAVAPAI COUNTY ON THE PRESCOTT, IN THE PRESCOTT AREA. UM, THEY HELP WITH OUR SEX ASSAULT EXAMS, UM, CHILD INTERVIEWS, UH, AND ONGOING. SO WE, WE ALSO HELP SUPPORT THEIR PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES WE WE USE IN, IN HELP SHARE. UM, AS FAR AS WELL THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UM, YOU'RE AWARE THAT'S ALWAYS ONGOING TO, TO HELP WITH RESOURCES. UH, THE HUMANE SOCIETY, THAT'S WHERE THE, WE USE OUR FACILITY HERE FOR QUARANTINE SHELTER WHEN WE FIND AN ANIMAL AT LARGE, UM, RABIES EXAMS. SO THAT'S AN ONGOING CONTRACT AS WELL. WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE, CHIEF. WELL, WE ALREADY FUND THAT OURSELF ON, ON A, ON GRANTS. UH, RIGHT. SO IS THAT THE SAME? IT'S THE SAME FIGURE, YES. OKAY. JUST SHOW. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS SOMETHING, SOMETHING OUTTA YOUR BUDGET. NO, NO. IT'S JUST COMING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF, OF OKAY. LIV LIVABILITY. JUST WANTED TO BE SURE WHEN I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. NO, NO. THANKS FOR ASKING, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M COVERING IT JUST 'CAUSE A LOT OF THE TIME IT, IT'S REALLY FALLING UNDER SOME OF THE OKAY. THE SERVICES WE UTILIZE AND OR HELP, UM, THE ACT, WHICH IS WHAT I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE ARIZONA CRISIS TEAM. UM, THEY HELP WITH, UM, GRIEVING VICTIMS AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S MORE COMMUNITY, UM, RESIDENTIAL FOCUSED OF OUR, SO, UM, AND THEN THE NORTHERN ARIZONA, UH, JUSTICE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PROGRAM, THAT'S FOR OUR YOUTH THAT, UM, WHEN THEY COMMIT A MORE YOUTHFUL TYPE CRIME, THAT THEY GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM TO HOPEFULLY NOT RE-OFFEND AND REINTRODUCE TO THE COMMUNITY, HAVING A BETTER SENSE OF COMMUNITY TO HOPE TO NOT CONTINUE ON IN ANY SILLY CRIMINAL ACTS. UH, AND THEN THE VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY, UH, THEY ASSIST WITH SHELTER, SAFETY, SECURITY TO SURVIVORS OF DV AND SEX ASSAULT VICTIMS. CHIEF, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT YAC, YOU SAID PRESCOTT, WHERE DO THEY DELIVER SERVICES? DO THEY DELIVER 'EM HERE OR DO WE HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE TO PRESCOTT FOR THOSE SERVICES? WE TAKE PEOPLE TO PRESCOTT. WE DO, IF IT'S WITHIN OUR YAVAPI COUNTY SIDE, UM, COCONINO COUNTY ALSO HAS A SIDE, BUT SOMETIMES, UM, IF COCONINO COUNTY'S UNABLE TO OR IT'S EASIER, UM, THEY HAVE, UM, THE RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP WILL STILL TAKE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ON THE COCONINO COUNTY SIDE OVER TO YAVAPAI. AND IT IS IN PRESCOTT. SO FOR THE VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A SMALL GRANT WITH US. WHERE'S THAT MONEY FUNDED FROM? UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, [06:20:01] WHERE IN OUR BUDGET FOR THE VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY, WE HAVE IT BUDGETED TO HAVE AS A CONTRACTUAL SERVICE AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND IT IS, IT'S 5,000 MOST OF THE TIME, BUT I ASSUMES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, OF FOLKS WHO WOULD BE HOUSED THERE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. YEAH. SO THEY, THEY ASSIST AS WELL. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE AN AREA FOR SOMEBODY TO GO. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. SO, SO WE CONTRACT WITH THEM TO HELP US WHEN WE HAVE A NEED. UM, SO IS THAT MONEY? IT'S A ONE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU BRING THERE. MALE OR FEMALE COULD BE EITHER ONE. RIGHT. BUT IS IT A ONE TIME PER YEAR? 10 50 PEOPLE? IT, IT'S A ONE SHOT. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S OUR CONTRIBUTION. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD. ALRIGHT. SO OUR NEXT SECTION IS LIVABILITY QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WENT WITH REALLY TO DESCRIBE MOSTLY CODE ENFORCEMENT. UM, IDENTIFYING EVERYTHING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO QUALITY OF LIFE WOULD OVERLAP SO MANY OTHER GOALS THAT WE ENDED UP REALLY JUST GOING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THIS. AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE OTHER HAND. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO STEVE. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS LESS THAN 1% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET. UM, THAT WAS MY QUEUE. RIGHT? THAT IS YOUR QUEUE. . UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOLLOWING, UH, CHIEF FOLEY AND HER TEAM. SO I'M GONNA DO MY BEST HERE. UM, SO JUST QUICK STATISTICS, UH, FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT. UM, I WON'T READ OFF THE NUMBERS SINCE YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE, BUT, UH, WEEDS, UH, ARE, IS CONTINUES TO BE OUR TOP SELLER HERE. UM, AND, UH, UH, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM, UH, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT, UH, IF IN FACT AFTER SEVERAL NOTICES, UM, UH, WE CAN CONTRACT TO, UH, HAVE THOSE WEEDS CUT AND THEN LEAN THE PROPERTY. SO UNDER OUR QUALITY OF LIFE BANNER, UM, I WANTED TO, UH, FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE EVEN EITHER STARTED OR ARE LOOKING TO START. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DISCUSSING WITH, UH, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND PEOPLE. UM, THE FIRST BEING OUR VOLUNTEER PROPERTY CLEANUP PROGRAM. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PICTURE SHOWS RIGHT THERE. UM, WE HAD OUR FIRST, UM, UH, OUR FIRST RESIDENT, UH, WHO HAD FALLEN UNDER A CITATION PROCESS, UH, DUE TO THE UNSIGHTLINESS OF HIS PROPERTY. AND IN TALKING TO THE GENTLEMAN AND IN, UH, AND, UM, TALKING TO THE COMPLAINANT WHO WAS A NEIGHBOR, UH, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS REALIZED THAT THIS PERSON COULDN'T HELP HIM HIMSELF. SO, UH, HE BECAME OUR, OUR FIRST IN THE PROGRAM WHERE, UH, OUR, UH, WE HAVE, UH, EMPLOYEES WHO CAN VOLUNTEER TO GO OUT THERE AND WITH THE HELP OF PUBLIC WORKS WHO HAVE DONATED, UH, TOOLS. AND, UH, WE CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY AND, UH, IT WAS VERY GRATIFYING, SATISFYING. UM, WE HAD AT LEAST FIVE TO SIX NEIGHBORS WHO WERE DRIVING BY WHILE WE WERE WORKING, WHO STOPPED TO THANK US FOR DOING THIS. AND, UH, UM, SO WE HAVE OUR SECOND ONE IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE VETTING, UM, THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. SO IT'S, IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A PROPERTY CLEANUP SORT OF THING. UM, AND WE'RE USING OUR OWN STAFF TIME THROUGH OUR VOLUNTEER HOURS. AND, UH, SO THAT'S, UH, UH, THE FIRST PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. CAN I JUST YES. COMPLIMENT YOU ON DOING THAT, BECAUSE I AM, I'M AWARE OF THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION AND YOU MADE AN INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE TO AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE TO SAY IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST SUCH A GOOD FEELING, YOU KNOW, TO HELP SOMEBODY OUT LIKE THAT. DO WE MAKE A CALL OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR OTHER BODIES TO HELP HERE? OR IS THAT IN YOUR THOUGHTS IN THE FUTURE, OR? YEAH. UH, SO THERE'S, UM, LIKE MANY PROGRAMS AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW UNTIL YOU GET INTO IT. UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE STARTING OUT WITH VOLUNTEERING THROUGH THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. UM, BUT SINCE WE ONLY HAVE FIVE VOLUNTEER HOURS, UH, PER [06:25:01] EMPLOYEE, UH, THAT WILL BE EXPANDING INTO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND I KNOW, UH, THE MAYOR HAD INDICATED THAT HE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, VOLUNTEER IN ONE OF THESE, UH, INSTANCES. BUT YES, IT WE'RE VERY OPEN TO SEEING, UM, HOW THIS PROGRAM CAN INCREASE. I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT VOLUNTEERING HOURS. WHO WITH THE CHIEF? I'LL WORK WITH HER, YES. YEAH. OH, STEVE, WHAT DO I GET VOLUNTEER FOR? SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THROUGH, UH, WITH OUR EMPLOYEES IS, IS THE LEGALITIES OF THAT AND THE LIABILITIES OF THAT. SO, UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM HERE, UM, TO CREATE DOCUMENTS, UH, UH, THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD'VE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT THE VOLUNTEERS SIGN OFF ON. SO I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UM, IF WE WERE ASKING FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC TO HELP. BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE MAY LOOK AT SEEING IF THIS GROWS. UH, AND WE WOULD LIKE IT TO. UM, AND THEN WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE VETTING PROCESS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRULY HELPING THOSE WHO CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES. I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, ACTUALLY. IT'S QUITE REWARDING. IT IS. WE'VE DONE THAT. YEAH. WE'VE DONE TOGETHER. YES. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND PROGRAM IS, UH, THE TREE REMOVAL PROGRAM, UM, DUE TO OUR FIRE SAFETY CONCERNS DUE TO DEAD TREES. AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE REMOVAL OF TREES, IT'S VERY COSTLY AND SOMETIMES YOU NEED, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT THE NORMAL HOMEOWNER'S NOT GONNA HAVE. UM, AND SO IT'S ANOTHER AREA OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WHERE, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP DINGING PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, POSSIBLY THE FUNDS, UH, OR THE CAPACITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION. SO, UM, WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH SUSTAINABILITY, UH, MET WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL. UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO CREATE A PROGRAM THAT, UM, WILL HELP, UM, THROUGH GRANTS, GRANT MONIES TO FUND, UM, AND TO NOT ONLY HELP REMOVE THESE DEAD TREES, UH, BUT ALSO BE PART OF THAT EDUCATIONAL PROCESS FOR FIREWISE, UH, AND FOR INVASIVE SPECIES. SO, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WE WANT TO, UH, ERADICATE THE DEAD TREES AND BE PART OF THAT EDUCATIONAL PROCESS GOING TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, WHICH WE FEEL, UM, ONCE WE GET THEM ON BOARD, WOULD BE PROBABLY A MUCH QUICKER, UH, PROCESS OF, UH, GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED. UM, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, NAU AND THEIR FORESTRY DEPARTMENT. UM, WE HAVE CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY, HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE, UM, THAT BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND BECAUSE OF, UM, THE FIRE, UH, CONCERNS, UH, PEOPLE, UH, HAVE HEARD OF OTHERS LOSING THEIR INSURANCE. UH, AND SO WE ALSO WANNA GET THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY INVOLVED IF WE COULD, UH, ON THE SIDE OF, UM, WHAT CAN WE DO TO BETTER HELP OUR RESIDENTS FROM NOT FALLING INTO THAT SITUATION OF LOSING THEIR INSURANCE. UH, WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU THEN SAY, OH, THIS IS TOO CRITICAL, WE'RE DROPPING THE PERSON. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM AND PART OF THE EDUCATIONAL PART. AND I FEEL THAT IF, IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND JUST HOW DIRE IS AND, AND WE KEEP HEARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THESE INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO REFUSE TO INSURE CERTAIN AREAS THAT, UM, IT'LL BECOME MORE THAN JUST, HEY, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. SO, UM, SO ANYWAY, UM, IN, IN DISCUSSING WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS AND THE VETTING, UM, UH, AND HOW TO DO OUT THE MONIES, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS IS FUNDED MOSTLY BY GRANTS. UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A, UM, A SPLIT WITH THE HOMEOWNER BASED UPON, UH, A MI, UH, THEIR PERSONALIS. AND, UH, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, THE HOME RETROFIT PROGRAM THAT SUSTAINABILITY HAS THAT IF YOU'RE OF A CERTAIN LEVEL, UH, WE'LL PAY THIS MUCH INTO THE PROGRAM. UH, THE MORE INCOME YOU HAVE, THE LESS WE'LL PAY IN. SO THAT KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT, THAT STRUCTURE. UM, AND, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO SAY HERE, UM, THAT I FORGOT. [06:30:01] UM, OH BOY. OH BOY. I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE. I'M SORRY. BUT, UM, SO, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, TO HELP WITH, UH, POSSIBLY THE FIRST PROGRAM, UH, AND MAYBE THE SECOND, UM, WE'VE BEGUN DISCUSSIONS ON, UM, USING OUR CITATION PROCESS TO MAYBE ASSESS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT WE COULD THEN ROLL BACK INTO THESE PROGRAMS, UH, AND HELP SUPPORT THEM. SO, UM, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO THE COURTS, WE TALKED TO, UH, THE JUDGE, UH, AND, UH, WE'VE BECOME DISCUSSIONS WITH FINANCE AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET DEEPER INTO THAT. THAT STARTED BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD. UM, AND I REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WITH OUR TREE REMOVAL PROGRAM. PART OF WHAT, UM, IF, IF COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH THIS, PART OF WHAT, UM, I MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR IS A SMALL, UH, STIPEND IN OUR BUDGET, UH, FOR A, UH, AN ARBORIST. SO TO DO ANYTHING WITH TREES, UM, YOU KNOW, YES, WE COULD ALL WALK UP TO A TREE THAT'S REALLY DEAD AND SAY THAT'S A DEAD TREE. THERE ARE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, WHETHER IT BE INFESTATION, WHETHER IT BE, UM, WHATEVER THE PROBLEM MIGHT BE. UM, AND WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE AN ARBORIST TO LEAN ON TO SAY, YES, THIS IS A TREE THAT IS DANGEROUS, THAT COULD FALL. UH, IT LOOKS GREAT FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT IF YOU LOOK HERE, IT'S INFESTED. SO, UM, EXCUSE ME. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROGRAM TOO, IS TO HAVE, EVEN THOUGH MUCH OF IT WE WANT TO HAVE FUNDED BY GRANTS, UM, WE MAY ASK FOR A BASE, UH, STIPEND, UH, TO PAY FOR AN ARBORIST TO BE ON CALL. STEVE, YOU ON AN ON CALL? MM-HMM . OKAY. NOT AN EMPLOYEE. NO, NO. CERTAINLY THERE'S A BUNCH OF YOUTUBE VIDEO WAS OUT THERE THAT WOULD SUPPORT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, I WANTED TO ASK STEVE ABOUT OUR, UH, CITIZENS CONNECT APP. AND NANETTE, YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT, OR ANOTHER TIME IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT. WELL, I THINK NOW, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANOTHER POINT THAT WE WANT TO, UH, ASK THE QUESTION, LIKE WE COULD BRING LAUREN BACK, UM, OR LAUREN'S STILL HERE YEP. TO COMMENT ON THAT. SO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT REPORTING TOOLS CITIZENS HAVE TO, UM, CONNECT WITH US IS THAT A LOT OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS ARE, UM, MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN WAS INTERESTED IN HOW THAT'S WORKING FOR YOU OR FOR YOUR TEAM. YEAH, AND, AND, AND A AND MAYBE A BIT BROADER, JUST I'M INTERESTED, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT CITIZENS CONNECT IS MANAGED IN OUR CITY. UH, I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF JOEY ACTUALLY, I KNEW YEAH. CLERK'S DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M A FREQUENT FLYER USER OF THE THING. YOU ARE MODERATE , BUT I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. UH, AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD MECHANISM FOR US TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST THINK IT, THE TRANSACTIONAL COSTS ARE SUPER LOW AND IT COULD BE QUITE EFFICIENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL WE, THE ROYAL WE FEEL ABOUT ITS IMPLEMENTATION AND USE WITHIN OUR CITY. WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT OR ABANDONMENT OR REWORKING OR IT'S WORKING PERFECTLY. I MEAN, I JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY FEEDBACK AND I WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK. 'CAUSE I THINK IT, IT HAS THE, IT COULD BE AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO JUST BE A STELLAR TOOL. NO, IT IS WELL UTILIZED, UM, BY CODE ENFORCEMENT. UM, AND THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, IT FORCES, NOT THAT THEY WOULDN'T, BUT IT FORCES YOU INTO THAT FOLLOW UP ROLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ANSWER BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE TOOK CARE OF THIS. SO, UM, NOT THAT LIKE, AND NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T ANYWAY, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THAT SYSTEM IS IT IS IT FORCES ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, WE HAVE INPUT FROM DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER IT'S PHONE CALLS, COMPLAINTS COMING IN THROUGH PHONE CALLS, COMING TO THE COUNTER, UM, EMAILS. UM, SO ONE OF THE, UH, QUESTIONS THROUGH THE RP, I'M SORRY, THE RFP THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE RP SYSTEM, UM, WAS, UM, HOW A PORTAL WOULD WORK FOR THESE SYSTEMS, UH, AND HOW EASY THAT WOULD BE AND WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THAT WOULD TAKE POSSIBLY, UM, THOSE TYPES OF CALLS OFF OF OUR CITIZENS CONNECT SYSTEM AND PUT IT DIRECTLY [06:35:01] THROUGH TO CODE ENFORCEMENT SO THE CLERK'S OFFICE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE INVOLVED. RIGHT. IS IT ANTICIPATED THAT WE'LL SEE ANY DISCUSSION IN THE BUDGET SESSIONS ABOUT WORK THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IN THIS AREA TO IMPROVE OR NOT? UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE. UM, UH, THERE IS A PO THERE, THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN WORK BASED UPON, UH, THE NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR LICENSING OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY ANOTHER A HUNDRED, UH, CASES NEXT YEAR BASED UPON THAT. BUT, UM, UH, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO GO ANY FURTHER. LAUREN, HAVE WE NEVER DONE A BIG COMMUNITY OUTREACH PUSH ABOUT USING CITIZENS CONNECT? THANKS. UH, WE HAVE YEARS AGO WHEN WE LAUNCHED IT AND PROBABLY AFTER THE FACT, UM, EVERYTHING SINCE THEN HAS BEEN SOCIAL MEDIA. IT'S IN THE ROUNDUP. IT'S IN, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A PRESS RELEASE THAT SAID, HEY, REMINDER, THIS IS HOW YOU USE IT. SO I COULD CERTAINLY RATCHET THAT UP. QR CODY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S AN EASY WAY TO YEP. THANK YOU COUNCILOR FURMAN. YEP. WE DO GET, UM, OVER 300, UH, REPORTS A YEAR. YEAR. OH GOD. AND, UM, THAT'S ALL FROM PETE, RIGHT? , YEAH. AND OUR RESPONSE TO CLOSE THOSE, UM, IS VERY QUICKLY, THERE ARE SOME RESPONSES WHERE IF POTHOLES OR THINGS ARE, UM, REPORTED, IT COULD BE A PERIOD WHERE THAT, UM, ITEM IS ON ADDED TO A LIST. SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT, UM, CLOSED OUT, IT'S JUST THAT WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR OR FOR CITY STAFF TO GATHER THE LIST. SO SOME ARE REPEAT, BUT IT DOES GET UTILIZED. YEAH. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OH, I THINK A LITTLE BIT, IT'S A CLUNKY EXPERIENCE. THE COMMUNICATION IS STELLAR. FOR EVERY ONE THING I TURN IN, I THINK I GET FOUR MESSAGES BACK BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT STAGES OF IT. BUT IT TELLS ME THAT THINGS ARE BEING PROCESSED. UH, AND, UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE DONE IT FOR POTHOLES AND WATER LEAKS, WHICH REALLY ISN'T US, BUT YOU CAN STILL DO IT. AND STREET SIGNS AND VEGETATION, YOU KNOW, AND WATER ON THE STREET. I'VE JUST, ALL KINDS OF THINGS I'VE USED IT FOR. YEAH. OUR OFFICE WILL CONTACT THE APPROPRIATE, UH, WATER COMPANY AND LET THEM KNOW OF THE REPORT THAT YOU OR OTHERS DO GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT TO US. SO WE DO DO THAT WHEN THEY'RE REPORTED. YEP. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME CLUNKINESS THAT PROBABLY COULD BE CLEANED UP OVER TIME AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT IN THE BIG LIST OF THINGS, IT'S, UH, I, I JUST, I THINK IT'S A STELLAR TOOL AND PROBABLY COULD BE USED MORE. 300 IS IS GOOD. UH, WHEN I STOP SUBMITTING THAT NUMBER WILL DROP SOME. BUT , MAYBE F , I, I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO AN AVERAGE. SO. WOW. MELISSA. UM, SO JUST GOING BACK TO THE VOLUNTEER PROPERTY CLEANUP PROGRAM. YES. UH, HAVE YOU ENGAGED WITH THE VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND THE RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT NEED HELP TAKING CARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR YARDS? WE HAVE NOT, TO THIS POINT, AGAIN, THIS IS IN ITS VERY INFANCY. INFANCY. THIS WAS THE FIRST, UH, SITUATION. IT, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENTS VIEW IS THAT WE TRY TO GAIN COMPLIANCE. SO, UM, INSTEAD OF HAMMERING WITH CITATIONS ALL THE TIME, UM, WE DO A LOT OF WORK AS TO TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY BEFORE WE GO TO THAT, THAT POINT. SO THIS REALLY CAME UP AS AN EXTENSION OF THAT, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT JUST CAN'T, BUT AS THIS INCREASES, THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD, UH, UH, POINT OF REFERENCE. UM, BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LIMITED BY VOLUNTEER HOURS. UM, AND UNTIL WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM AND, AND KNOW HOW TO EXPAND IT, UM, WE, WE WANT TO KIND OF KEEP IT CLOSE TO THE VEST AND USE IT THROUGH, UM, THROUGH OUR, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS AT THIS POINT. [06:40:02] YEAH. THANK YOU DEREK. UH, QUESTION, QUESTION FOR JOANNE. ARE MOST OF THE COMMENTS YOU GET THROUGH THAT SYSTEM? I MEAN, ARE THEY, IS IT PRODUCTIVE? IS IT, DO YOU HAVE TO WEED OUT 50% OF 'EM? IT'S JUST PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBOR OR THEY'RE PRETTY PRODUCTIVE? THERE MAY BE, UM, REPEAT OR LIKE A DUPLICATE, BUT WE HAVE A WAY TO DESIGNATE WHETHER IT'S A DUPLICATE. OKAY. BUT THEY'RE PRODUCTIVE. OKAY. UM, ONCE EVERY COUPLE YEARS, SOMEBODY MIGHT TRY TO USE IT AS A PLATFORM, BUT OKAY. IT'S PRETTY RARE. I MEAN, WE MAY WANT TO TAKE IT EASY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST SO WE DON'T OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM WITH NONSENSE. PICK WHAT HE THINKS. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, 95, 90 5% OF THE COULD BLOCK HIS DOMAIN. . I, I MUST SAY THAT THAT SYSTEM WORKS SO WELL. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOTLINE, BUT OUR STAFF ARE FABULOUS. IT'S JUST SOMETIMES ON A WEEKEND IT'LL RING AND RING AND RING AND I'LL LET THEREA KNOW ON WHATEVER THE TIME OF THE DAY IT WAS. BUT THAT, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMPANY, IT'S NOT DONE IN HOUSE, BUT I WISH THEY WERE AS PRODUCTIVE AS OUR STAFF ARE, YOU KNOW, TO CITY CLERK BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'LL NEVER GET THERE BECAUSE WE'RE USING AN OUTSIDE COMPANY. BUT IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR STAFF FOR SURE. ABSOLUTELY. YES. SO, AND LET'S REMEMBER, THEY'RE PICKING UP OUR FOOD FOR TOMORROW, SO , BUT, ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY, CONTINUE ON THAT. THAT'S IT FOR ME. OKAY. SO, UM, YOU WANT THAT DOWN? THAT WAS THE END OF OUR, UM, DISCUSSION POINTS THAT WE THOUGHT OF TO PUT IN THIS, UH, NEW CATEGORY THAT WASN'T IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, CAPTURING PUBLIC SAFETY, GUN ENFORCEMENT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA PAUSE FOR CHECK-IN AND WE ARE AT THE END OF WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR YOU TODAY. OH GOSH, DAWN. SO THERE IS A POINT HERE AS WELL FOR YOU TO HAVE JUST OPEN DISCUSSION OR REFLECTION ON TODAY IF YOU WOULD WISH, UM, ANY ITEMS THAT CAME TO YOU AFTER ANY OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT YOU WANNA CATCH OR THAT YOU WANNA, UM, MAKE SURE IS CAPTURED. UM, THIS IS SORT OF OPEN TIME FOR YOU TO DISCUSS. AND THEN I SUPPOSE YOU COULD CONSIDER IF YOU WANT TO START THE NEXT SCHOOL AREA THAT WE HAD ON DECK FOR THE MORNING OR JUST ADJOURN EARLY. SO TOTALLY UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANNA MANAGE IT. I'D LIKE TO ASK CHIEF ANOTHER QUESTION THAT MELISSA REMINDED ME OF VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS, AND IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION, WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT DO YOU UTILIZE THEM IN THE EVACUATION PLAN IN ANY WAY? I MEAN THE, WHEN WE HAVE ONE, I'M SURE WE WILL UTILIZE, UM, SOME OF THE, THE PLACES THAT ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME NEEDS. BUT ALSO WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY AND COCONINO COUNTY, THERE ARE WAYS THAT THEY CAN SIGN UP ON THE ALERT SYSTEM THAT STAY, UM, MORE COMPLIANT TO NOT LEAK HIPAA INFORMATION OUT SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHEN WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT OF EVACUATION THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL NEEDS. WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL REVAMP OF OUR PROGRAM, WE TOOK INTO SOME TO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH BASED ON OUR OWN CALLS FOR SERVICE. UM, AND AREAS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 55 PLUS COMMUNITIES OR, OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS FAR AS OUR CAD, RMS, THERE'S NOTIFICATIONS WE PUT IN THAT SYSTEM THAT'LL HELP US DURING THAT TIME AS WELL. WHEN WE PUT IN A ZONE THAT HAS THAT WE'LL UNDERSTAND BETTER IN THAT ZONE WHERE SOME OF THE NEEDS ARE. 'CAUSE I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN, IF THEY'D SHARE INFORMATION WITH YOU, IF THEY WOULD NOT MIND, SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW IN CASE OF AN EVACUATION, THEY KNOW CERTAIN THEIR GUESTS, THEY AS THEY CALL 'EM NEIGHBORS, WHICH WHAT'S THAT? THEIR NEIGHBORS. NEIGHBORS. YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU. THEIR NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD REALLY NEED SOMETHING AND THEN THEY HAVE A BUS. IF THEY CAN GET TO THAT BUS MORE THAN ONE, THEY COULD MAYBE PICK UP THESE PEOPLE AS ANOTHER ASSET TO YOU TO BRING SOMEBODY ELSE INTO THE TEAM IF YOU'RE OPEN TO EVEN TALKING TO KENT. YEAH, I I THINK WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE IN A SITUATION THAT'S AN EMERGENCY AND THERE'S PLANNING WITH IT, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IMMEDIATE. OF COURSE. YEAH. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LOT, YOU KNOW, ROBERT AND I, AS FAR AS THE SHUTTLE HAS HAVE TALKED AS WELL AS BEING A RESOURCE FOR US FOR DIFFERENT NEEDS TO, TO HELP WITH TRANSPORTATION AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF, SOME OF THE ISSUES AS FAR AS IF PEOPLE HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS, THEY HAVE TO BE WILLING TO WANT TO SHARE THOSE WITH US. AND SOMETIMES, UM, [06:45:01] TO GET THEM TO, UM, SHARE IS MUCH TOUGHER, UH, ON THE, THE FRONT END. BUT IT'S, IT CAN BE A LITTLE EASIER WHEN IT'S IN AN EMERGENCY TO, TO GET THAT INFORMATION RIGHT VERSUS UPFRONT WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO SHARE IT. I GET IT. I JUST WANT TO OFFER THAT IDEA. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL PRETTY MUCH USE ANY PARTNER. I FIGURED YOU WOULD. . OKAY. I HAD A QUESTION. GO. SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH NOW, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS AND, AND SPOKEN ABOUT THEIR GOALS AND PRIORITIES. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA COME TO US AS A SURPRISE? SO IN OTHER WORDS, DO WE HAVE EVERYTHING? SOUNDS LIKE A CHIEF'S GOT A SURPRISE. . YEAH, I KNOW. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING SHOULD I LEAVE? OH, SO AGAIN, WE'VE UM, STRUCTURED THE RETREAT FORMAT BY THESE GOAL AREAS. SO THERE WILL BE REPEAT DEPARTMENTS TOMORROW. SO THIS ISN'T THE ONLY TIME YOU'LL HAVE THE CHIEF. SO TOMORROW THERE'LL BE ANOTHER SECTION. UM, NO SURPRISES, STEPHANIE. I MEAN YOU YEAH. PUT IT OUT THERE TOMORROW. NO SURPRISES IN APRIL. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. SO, UM, YOU MAY HAVE, UM, SAME SIMILAR STAFF COME BACK TOMORROW, BUT JUST IN DIFFERENT RURAL AREAS. AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAD A PREVIEW SLIDE FOR YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF, UM, THE REALLY BIG, UH, TOPIC AREAS STAFF HAD IDENTIFIED AS THINGS THAT MIGHT BE PRIORITIES FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. AND WE'LL GO OVER THOSE MORE SPECIFICALLY TOMORROW. THE CHIEFS PART OF ONE OF THOSE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC. UM, SO I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO COVER ALL THE BASES FOR YOU, BUT JUST IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FORMAT. UM, WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO SURPRISE YOU. SO WE TRIED TO BE SUPER THOROUGH. UM, I DIDN'T SEE, I WAS EXPECTING AT THE BEGINNING TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT WHEN IT CAME TO CAPITAL PROJECTS, NOT HOW CAPITAL PROJECTS WORK, BUT THAT PRIORITY LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS MM-HMM . SO IT'S LIKE, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM . EVEN ON MONDAY, WERE 10 YEAR FORECAST. WHAT IS, WHAT'S ON THE LIST AND WHAT IS THE COST OF ALL OF THAT? IF YOU ADD 'EM ALL UP, WHAT ARE WE? 'CAUSE THE RED ROCK NEWS SAYS IT'S 200 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS, IS IT, IS IT NOT? BUT I THINK PIGGYBACKING ON THAT, IF I MAY, I THINK FROM WHERE I SIT ANECDOTALLY IN MY HEAD, I'M THINKING THAT THE BIGGEST CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY, ONE NOW BEING DONE BUT NOT DONE, UM, WAS FOREST ROAD, THE GARAGE, OR ACTUALLY GARAGE FOREST ROAD AND THE PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS. BUT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS NEXT. WHAT'S NUMBER FOUR? I KNOW THE BIG THREE, RIGHT? THE ROUNDABOUT AT 89 A AND YOU KNOW, WELL, AND THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS. RIGHT? WELL, BUT THAT'S RIGHT. BUT I NEED TO KNOW, AND I WANNA KNOW WHERE THEY FIGURE DOLLAR WISE, ANTICIPATED DOLLAR WISE SO THAT I CAN KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE POT IS GOING TO GO. SO LIKE, AS I SAID, I KNOW THE BIG THREE 'CAUSE THEY'RE UNDERWAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THE STRUCTURE OF LIKE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT REQUEST DOES MAKES SENSE. AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE, UM, CHANGE FROM PAST YEARS. SO WE WERE TRYING TO NOT HAVE THIS BE LIKE SOLELY A BUDGET WORKSHOP MM-HMM . UM, THAT'S WHY STAFF DON'T HAVE DECISION PACKAGES FOR YOU OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR PREVIEWS. WE WERE MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT'S THE COUNCIL'S BIG BURNING ISSUES AND PRIORITIES. BUT I AM HEARING THAT MAYBE NOT HAVING THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AROUND THE CAPITAL PROJECT LIST THAT EXISTS NOW WAS PROBABLY, WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT. I KNOW ON MONDAY WHEN WE MET, UM, THERE WAS AN INTEREST EXPRESSED ABOUT, UM, UNDERSTANDING WHERE OUR ENDING FUND BALANCES ARE AT THE CLOSE OF THE, UH, JUNE 30TH, 2024, UM, CYCLE, WHICH WE'RE JUST FINISHING THE AUDIT OF THAT AND CLOSING ALL THE BOOKS. AND I BELIEVE, UM, BARBARA'S GONNA BE PREPARED WITH THAT TOMORROW AS PART OF THE WRAP UP. BUT WE COULD, UM, PROBABLY BRING BACK THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY. WE DID ALSO REFRESH WHAT THE FOUR CATEGORIES ARE FOR HOW WE INTERNALLY PRIORITIZE WHAT GOES INTO THE CIP. UM, SO THAT'S HOW THE ORDER, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN, IN THE BUDGET BOOK, [06:50:01] WHICH ALREADY EXISTS. LIKE NONE OF THAT HAS CHANGED. UM, SO WE CAN BRING BACK WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT BUDGET LIST. NO PROBLEM AT ALL FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE LIKE I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND AGAIN PRIORITIES, RIGHT? BUT I CAN ONLY, I CAN'T PRIORITIZE IN A VACUUM. I WANNA PRIORITIZE KNOWING HOW MUCH OF A POD IS LEFT AND IF I'M PRIORITIZING, MAYBE THERE ARE FOUR PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND HAVE A SMALLER PRICE TAG THAN ONE BIGGER ONE OR DO WHAT I WANT. BUT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WITHOUT SOME OF THAT STRUCTURAL INFORMATION. BUT I THINK, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD EXERCISE TO DO TOMORROW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE NEW CAPITAL BUDGET SUBMISSIONS FROM, I DON'T THINK WE DO THE EXERCISE. I I NEED IT FOR ME. YOU JUST WANNA GET IT AS WANT ME SO THAT I CAN THINK THROUGH. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I, I'M SORRY I MISSED MISUNDERSTOOD. I THINK OTHERS ARE IN THE SAME POSITION, LIKE WHAT'S COMING UP RIGHT? WHEN THESE BIG THREE RIGHT ARE DONE, WHAT'S SLIDING IN AND ARE THEY AT THE SAME LEVEL OF COST? WELL, WE HAVE THE EXISTING LIST. UM, WHAT THIS DOESN'T SHOW IS ANYTHING NEW THAT IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED BY DEPARTMENTS IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. RIGHT. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THE CURRENT LIST AND ANDY CAN SPEAK TO RIGHT NOW. THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. UM, I CAN CERTAINLY GO THROUGH WHAT'S ALREADY PROGRAMMED IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET WITH THAT, THAT NORMAL THREE YEAR OUTLOOK PLUS THE FUTURE YEAR, UM, PLACEHOLDER. BUT WHAT WAS HELPFUL FOR US IS TO KNOW THINGS LIKE ARE WE GONNA PURSUE A CREEK WALK OR NOT? THAT'S, THAT IS A BIG DOLLAR ITEM, WHICH THERE'S A PLACEHOLDER IN HERE IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET NOW, BUT WERE WE REALLY GONNA PURSUE THAT OR NOT WAS PART OF WHAT WE KIND OF NEEDED TO KNOW AND BUILDING THIS, THIS, THIS BUDGET OUT FROM A THREE YEAR TO A 10 YEAR, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE OUR FIRST YEAR DOING THAT. IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK. IT'S CHICKEN AND EGG. I DON'T YEAH, I DON'T NEED YOU TO DO ALL THAT WORK. YOU DON'T NEED TO. NO, I I BUT IT'S CHICKEN AND EGG BECAUSE FOR ME, BECAUSE IF, IF YOU WANNA KNOW IF WE WANNA DO A CREEK WALK, BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT ELSE. IF I SAY THAT I WANNA DO A CREEK WALK, WHAT ELSE WOULDN'T HAPPEN? I, I DO NEED THE LIST OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. I DON'T NEED SUCH A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU GIVE FOR WHEN WE DO DECISION PACKAGES AND STUFF. BUT I, I NEED, I NEED TO SEE THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE SO I KNOW HOW THEY FIT TOGETHER. CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION BECAUSE I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE CAPITAL PROJECT THAT GOES ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE SAW THIS MORNING IN CIRCULATION? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT BEYOND THAT. OKAY. SO BECAUSE CIRCULATION, THEY ALREADY SORT OF GAVE US A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THEY WERE GONNA DO. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT PLUS ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING FOR PARKS AND RECS AND ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING FOR BIG, BIG TICKET ITEMS. OH, THEY'RE, I WANT BIG TICKET ITEMS. SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE BRING THAT BACK AS PART OF THE END OF DAY TOMORROW WRAP UP BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE OTHER GOAL AREAS TO HEAR FROM THAT HAVE CAPITAL PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL WILL HELP WITH THE DISCUSSION. BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED CAPITAL PROJECTS PRIORITIZATION LIST THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED JUST AS A TOOL, AS A REFRESHER FOR YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSIONS TOMORROW. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED BEFORE TODAY, UM, WAS THE, UH, STATUS OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH WHAT WE CALL ENDING FUND BALANCES OR BEGINNING CASH OR YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF THING WHERE WE'RE AT WITH FINANCIAL RESOURCES AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT STARTED IN JULY. WELL THE CREEK WALK IS A GOOD EXAM. ARE YOU? YEAH, NO. CREEK WALK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF PROBABLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRIORITIZATION CATEGORIES, IT'S PROBABLY A NICE TO HAVE AS OPPOSED TO A MUST HAVE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WHAT IS ITS SCORE ON HERE? OH, LET'S SEE. SHE'S ASKING WHAT CATEGORY, CATEGORY PRICE TAG WILL, WOULD HELP DEFINE THAT, RIGHT? OR LET'S SEE, CREEK WALK ROUGHLY PROJECTED WITH A LOT OF CAVEATS. IT SAYS, UH, IMPORTANT COULD DO. SO IT'S NOT THE ESSENTIAL RIGHT. OR IMPERATIVE. RIGHT. BUT THIS WAS LAST YEAR WHEN IT WAS JUST A DREAM. YEAH, TOTALLY. YEAH. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN WE DID THIS, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE EIGHT OUT PARCELS YET, RIGHT? YEAH. SO, BUT THEN THE, THE QUESTION BECOMES WHAT ARE THE THINGS LIKE WASTEWATER, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS AND THEY'RE GONNA BE EXPENSIVE AND THEY MUST BE DONE RIGHT FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY REASONS. SO THAT MAY PUSH SOMETHING [06:55:01] ELSE OUT OR NOT. SO, AND WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH IS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR IS, UM, IN EXERCISE OR DISCUSSION TOMORROW TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY OF WHAT'S ON HERE AND BASICALLY THE NEW INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW TODAY, BECAUSE THIS WAS PREPARED A WHILE AGO, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A CAPITAL BUDGETING EXERCISE FOR FY 26, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IN THE ACTUAL BUDGET PROCESS ITSELF IN THE NORMAL. YEP. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. PERFECT. PETE, ANYTHING ELSE? YEP, MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO I WANNA START OFF BY, UH, EARLIER THIS MORNING I GAVE SOME KUDOS FOR WHAT I SEE AS THE CHANGE HERE AND IT LINKING IT TO OUR COMMUNITY PLAN IS A STELLAR IDEA. AND YOU USED WORDS THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN AND FORGOT TO SAY THIS MORNING, BUT EXACTLY, UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAINTAIN OUR COMMUNITY PLAN AS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WHEN WE REFERENCE IT FREQUENTLY THROUGH ACTIVITIES LIKE THIS IS PERFECT AND BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY A GREAT CHANGE. UM, AND I LOVE THESE KIND OF NEW CHARTS THAT YOU'VE GOT UP HERE. MY EYES STILL AND MY BRAIN STILL NEEDS A LOT OF TRAINING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO THINK ABOUT THESE. WHEN I LOOK AT, I'M LOOKING AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE CODE ENFORCEMENT ONE, WHICH IS JUST A FEW PAGES BACK FROM WHERE YOU ARE, AND I SEE ALL THE CATEGORIES, BUT THEN QUALITY OF LIFE, I'M NOT SURE THAT WHY EXACTLY WE'RE USING THAT WORD. AND THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT LOOKS LIKE THAT VERY YELLOW BAND AT THE BOTTOM OF QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY CODE ENFORCEMENT THERE. TO ME IT SAYS QUALITY OF LIFE. SO THERE'S JUST, I, I THINK THAT THERE'S MAPPING TRAINING FROM WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TO GET INTO MY BRAIN, BUT I LOVE THE EFFORT AND UH, I ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. UH, LIVING DOCUMENT, DATA PRESENTATIONS. YEAH. YEAH. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE DOCUMENTS. I, I JUST WAS REALLY HAPPY OF THE CHANGES THAT I'VE SEEN, UH, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, IN OUR EFFORT TO DO THIS STUFF. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT WAS A REALLY GOOD DAY. BRIAN, THEN KATHY. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, BARBARA, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 10 ABOUT MOMENT OF HEART ? NO, APPARENTLY, APPARENTLY THAT'S TOMORROW TIME. TOMORROW I'LL ARRIVE AT . I SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT IT UP TODAY. I COULD HAVE BEEN ON THE ISLAND ALL DAY TODAY AND ONLY RISK IT TOMORROW. I'M HALFWAY THERE. WHAT'S THE TOPIC? IT'S THE CITY BUDGET. OKAY. WHICH ONE? TWO MORE HERE. NOPE, ONE MORE. NOPE, BACK. THIS IS OKAY, THE BACK. SO THIS SLIDE IS VERY INTERESTING AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE WHERE COVID AND THE, IN MY OPINION, MY INTERPRETATION IN PART HERE IS THAT COVID LEADING TO AN EXPLOSION OF STR DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS, DOUBLING ESSENTIALLY OUR BED TAX SALES TAXES GOING UP. OUR SPENDING IS GOING UP. WE'RE EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT INFLATION. BUT IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO, TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND IS, OKAY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING NOW THAT WE DIDN'T USE TO DO? WHAT ARE WE, WHAT SERVICE ARE WE PROVIDING? WHAT STAFF ARE WE PROVIDING? AND TO WHAT BENEFIT IS THERE COMING FROM THAT? AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING TO MAKE AS A SIDE BY SIDE WITH THIS CHART IS HOW HAS THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THOSE EXPENDITURES CHANGED? AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2014. I MEAN, FRANKLY IT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, BUT TO SEE HOW MUCH HAS BED TAX, EXPANDED SALES, TAX EXPANDED, HOW MUCH OF THIS ARE WE PAYING VIA GRANTS? RIGHT? LIKE SO MUCH OF THIS TRANSIT STUFF IS GRANT MONEY. AND I'M GUESSING IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT 20 14, 20 15, I'M GUESSING THERE WASN'T A LOT OF GRANT MONEY FUNDING MUCH OF OUR EXPENDITURES BACK THEN, BUT NOW IT IS. UM, SO IT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO SEE, OH, AND THEN BOND ALSO BONDING, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'VE ISSUED, UH, TWO SUBSTANTIAL BONDS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW ARE WE FUNDING THAT, THAT GROWTH, THAT BIG CAGR OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS? UM, [07:00:01] BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY GETS ALARMED ABOUT AND THE, THE LOCAL MEDIA LOVES TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OH, YOU KNOW, BIG, BIG GROWTH. YOU KNOW, OH, NOW IT'S A HUNDRED MILLION BUDGET, ET CETERA. OKAY, WELL WHERE, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? AND, AND IT ALSO RELATES TO WHERE WE ENDED IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THIS YEAR AROUND, OKAY, ARE WE ON A SUSTAINABLE PATH RIGHT NOW? ARE, ARE WE CONTINUING TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT GROW, UM, ONGOING BURN RATE OF, UH, OUR, UH, OPERATING BUDGET THAT BECOMES UNSUSTAINABLE IF WE KEEP DOING IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T COUNT ON HAVING A NEVER ENDING INCREASE IN SALES AND BED TAX. SO, UM, BARBARA, IS THAT A CRAZY HARD ASK? NO, NOT AT ALL. THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN, WE CAN'T HAVE IT FOR TOMORROW, BUT I THINK IT, RIGHT. UM, NOT, NOT QUITE A MIRACLE WORKER , UM, BUT WE DEFINITELY CAN PROVIDE IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET. MM-HMM . UM, SO WE CAN DO THAT AND THEN WE WILL BE PROVIDING ALSO A 10 YEAR FORECAST MM-HMM . FOR BOTH OPERATIONS AND CIP BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING, AND THAT WILL BE DIVIDED BY ALL THE CATEGORIES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE. 'CAUSE REALLY THAT'S WHAT'S FEEDING THIS. SO IT'S NOT TERRIBLY HARD TO PULL IT OUT. AWESOME. AWESOME. AND MY OTHER, ACTUALLY IT'S A QUESTION IS I SEE JOSH SITTING BACK THERE AND I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE WE GONNA TRY TO DO PARKS AND REC TODAY OR, OR WHAT IF WE DO IT TODAY AND GET DONE BEFORE FIVE? WE'LL BE ONE STEP AHEAD TOMORROW TO GET OUT EVEN EARLIER. SO I WANTED TO JUST TACK ON A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU SAID, DIFFERENT SHADE A LITTLE BIT, BARBARA, WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY. ALSO IN THE FUTURE AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS TO WORK ON SOME TYPE OF PRESENTATION WHERE WE ACTUALLY TAKE ON THE, HOW MUCH OF OUR REVENUE IS BEING GENERATED BY OUR RESIDENTS VERSUS COMING IN THROUGH OUR TOURISTS. AND THEN, UH, WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THE RESIDENT DOLLARS AND WHAT CATEGORIES WHERE WE, WHAT, WHERE WE MIGHT PRIORITIZE THAT SPENDING VERSUS, UH, THE, THE TOURISM DOLLAR REVENUES AND WHERE WE SPEND THOSE. THAT WOULD JUST BE A, A GREAT DISCUSSION, A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THE DATA, A DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT. WE DO HAVE A STUDY THAT'S DONE EVERY FEW YEARS TO TALKED TO LAUREN ABOUT THIS THAT, UM, TELLS US APPROXIMATELY WHAT PERCENTAGE IS VISITOR GENERATED OF OUR, OF OUR SALES AND BED TAX. IS THAT WHAT IT DOES? YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THAT CAN HELP US TRACK THAT, UM, AS FAR AS WHERE THE MONEY GOES BECAUSE IT ALL GOES INTO THE SAME POT. SURE. IT'S A LITTLE HARDER. IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE AN EXERCISE IN WE'RE PRIORITIZING THIS, SAY 40% THAT RESIDENTS PROVIDE TO, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT IT, BUT THE REALITY IS ALL THE DOLLARS GO TO ONE PLACE. SURE. THEY, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IN, THEY DO GO INTO A POT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TOPICS, AREAS OF OUR SPEND. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, REALLY OUR TOURISTS SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS. AND OVER HERE THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, HA HAVE A FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTE OVER HERE. I KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE DI IT'S DIFFICULT FOR SURE AND IT WOULD BE GUESSING SOME ESTIMATING A LOT YOUR, UH, SCIENTIFIC SWAGS AT IT. BUT I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE AN INFORMATIVE CONVERSATION TO ALWAYS BE HAVING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET. SO, YEP. THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING FOR ME IS WE HAVE A BUDGET, LIKE, LET'S GO BACK TO 23 WHERE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT WE BUDGETED. WHAT DID WE ACTUALLY SPEND? I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CHART. SAME THING. YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S HELPED TO INFORM AND I, I'VE BEEN ON THIS BANDWAGON FOR A WHILE. SLIDE 14. IS THAT YEAH, WELL LOOK, YEAH. AND THIS, BUT THIS SLIDE, LET ME BE CLEAR, IS GENERAL, THE GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET. YES. NOT CIP REALLY NEED TO, TO GET THAT WHOLE PICTURE, YOU'LL WANNA SEE THE CIP. CORRECT. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY I TALKED ABOUT SORT OF A PROJECT LIFESPAN. BECAUSE THE REALITY WITH THOSE BUDGETS IS THAT THEY SHOULD JUST, IF YOU DON'T SPEND IT ALL, IT DOESN'T BECOME LEFTOVERS LIKE IN YOUR FRIDGE. IT ACTUALLY GETS, LIKE, GOES INTO THE HASH. IF, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. IT DOESN'T REALLY BECOME LEFTOVER MONEY UNTIL YOU'VE CLOSED OUT A PROJECT AND YOU'VE COME IN UNDER BUDGET AND THEN THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO FUND BALANCE. BUT YEAR OVER YEAR WHEN PROJECTS ARE JUST CRUISING ALONG AND NOT NECESSARILY MEETING ALL THE TIME DEADLINES BECAUSE OF WHO KNOWS WHAT DELAYS, USUALLY THAT MONEY JUST KIND OF CONTINUES AND ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS IS [07:05:01] NEEDED. OKAY. BUT THEN HOW DO WE RATIONALIZE WHEN WE SAY WE'VE GOT A SURPLUS? RIGHT? WE, WE'VE PLANNED A SURPLUS EACH OF THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE, I DON'T THINK IT INVOLVED ROLLING OVER OF SAYING, OH, WE DIDN'T SPEND CIP MONEY, WE JUST HAVE THIS SURPLUS AND GEE, NOW WE'RE GONNA DO P-S-P-R-S AND UH, HOUSING FUNDS. SO HOW DOES THAT PLAY IN? I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS CORRECT. UM, THE, MY, AGAIN, ONLY HERE EIGHT MONTHS , BUT FROM WHAT I SAW AT THE TAIL END OF YOUR BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEAR, AND THEN TALKING WITH FINANCE STAFF AND OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, UM, THE SURPLUS THAT YOU DISCUSSED AT THE END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEAR TRULY WAS A SURPLUS. SO WE HAD ALREADY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ANY POTENTIAL CARRYOVER MONIES. OKAY. WE'D ALREADY DEDUCTED OFF THE TOP, IT'S THE SALES AND PAY TAX, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL THEM, QUOTE THE EARMARKS. I DON'T KNOW. DEDICATED FUNDS HAD ALREADY BEEN ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND IT AFTER JULY ONE, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO ALL THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN INTO CONCERN. PERFECT. YEAH. SO IT, IT REALLY WAS A SURPLUS AT THE END OF YOUR BUDGET PROCESS THAT YOU STILL HAD AVAILABLE MONEY TO INVEST IN SOMETHING OR NOT LEAVE IT IN THE BANK, LET IT, YOU KNOW, EARN INTEREST OR WHATEVER, BE IN THE RESERVES. UM, BUT YES, WE DID ALREADY FACTOR THE CIP PIECES. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE AS A REMINDER TOO, FOR TOMORROW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY WORK. JUST GIVE US THE SLIDE OF, FROM, I THINK JUNE WAS THE LAST MONTH THAT WE GOT ANY, UH, REVENUE. HMM. JUNE I THINK WAS THE LAST ONE, THE, THE FINANCE, THE TREASURER'S REPORT THAT COMES OUT. IS THAT THE ONE? NO, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE BED TAX. OH, OH OH. AND THE SALES TAX BUDGETED VERSUS YEAR TO DATE COLLECTIONS. CORRECT. THAT, UM, I BELIEVE RENEE PRESENTED TO YOU. YOU, YEP. DIDN'T WE GET ONE RECENTLY? YEAH, WE DID. WE JUST ONE. I WAS JUST GONNA FIND IT. DID YOU GET ONE IN OCTOBER? YEAH, BUT IT, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S NOT FOR THAT MONTH, RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. IT'S, IT WAS, I PRESENTED IT IN OCTOBER AND IT WAS BASED ON JUNE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE TWO MONTHS BEHIND. WE DO ANTICIPATE BRINGING THAT TO YOU PROBABLY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY WITH THE NEXT UPDATE, I WOULD IMAGINE. JANUARY. SO WE DON'T HAVE JULY. UM, WE HAVE JULY AND WE HAVE AUGUST AT THIS POINT. OH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT THOUGH. YEAH, WE, WE, WE HAVE THOSE TWO LONG QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING, BUT WE GOT, YEAH, WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL QUARTERLY. I THINK SO. YEAH. WELL IF YOU HAVE AUGUST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ALONG. JOSH, HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE YOUR PRESENTATION? TWO HOURS. TWO AND A HALF? YEAH. AT LEAST DEPENDING HOW MANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON IT. THERE YOU GO. YOU WANT TO COME UP TO THE TAPE? HAVE ANY, SHOULDN'T BE BAD. OKAY. SHE ACTUALLY LEFT. WHY'D SHE LEAVE? CHIEF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, AND SO THE CHIEF, OH THANKS. CHIEF FOLEY. UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, OR NOT AS A REMINDER, BUT AS A PREVIEW, THE COMMUNITY GOAL AREA, WHICH, UM, WE'RE GONNA START HERE IN A MINUTE, CONTAINS, UM, THE PORTION THAT IS JOSH AND SANDY PHILLIPS, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES A PORTION FOR ARTS AND CULTURE FOR NANCY AND THE SMALL GRANT PROGRAM THAT I WAS GONNA DO. AND I DON'T THINK NANCY AND I ARE GONNA BE, I MEAN I THINK YOU CAN COVER THE JOSH AND SANDY PART AND THEN NANCY AND I CAN START IN THE MORNING WITH THE REMAINDER. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE'S AVAILABLE. OKAY. WELL WE'LL STOP WITH JOSH. BE FINE. OKAY. YEAH. WHAT PAGE DO YOU START ON? COMMUNITY GO THERE. YEAH. COMMUNITY GO 88. WHAT A, WHAT A, A GREAT, GREAT WAY TO END WITH JOSH. SO THANK YOU. WAY TO BE AHEAD FOR TODAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. SO OURS IS OBVIOUSLY THE COMMUNITY GOAL. SO JOSH FRUIN, PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGER, AND I'LL BE JOINED HERE IN A MINUTE BY SANDY PHILLIPS, WHO'S THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND SHARE A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT MET THESE COMMUNITY GOALS. UM, AS PART OF THIS SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN. A LOT OF THE ONES WE WERE FOCUSING ON, WHICH IS PAGE 26 IN THIS COMMUNITY PLAN, FACILITATING THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES TO BUILD THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY. THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIG FOCUSES. CREATING PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER, INTERACT, SHARE EXPERIENCES. AND THEN AS IT GOES INTO SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, [07:10:01] OFFERING ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND PROGRAMS THAT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, INVITE AND INVOLVE EVERYONE. AND THEN ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO GET INVOLVED AND PARTICIPATING IN VOLUNTEERING. THOSE WERE KIND OF OUR BIG FOCUSES THAT OBVIOUSLY BUILD THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO TOUCH ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT FILL THE SAME TYPE OF THING, SUCH AS THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THE RANGER STATION PARK THERE. OH, I HAVE THE CLICKER. ALL RIGHT. EVEN BETTER. SO FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN, IT IS, THE COMMUNITY SECTION IS 7% OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL BUDGET THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE. AND THEN 9.3% OF THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGETS RELATED TO THAT COMMUNITY GOAL. THE FIRST ONE IS THE POSSE GROUNDS PICKLEBALL COURTS. MM-HMM . THAT WE HAD THIS GRAND OPEN RIBBON CUTTING THAT I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU WERE THERE AT WITH THE BIG PHOTO UP TOP. HUGE GROUP THERE. VERY EXCITED TO GET THOSE DONE. AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN IN USE JUST ABOUT EVERY SECOND. THEY'VE BEEN OPEN SINCE THAT DAY. THEY'RE VERY POPULAR. UM, SO WE OPENED 'EM OCTOBER 22ND WAS THE DATE FOR THAT HOPE CONSTRUCTION SERVED AS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AFTER IT WENT OUT TO THE COMPETITIVE BID. AND THEN THE TOTAL PROJECT COST WAS AT 1.6 MILLION FOR THE FULL PROJECT. THAT INCLUDED THE RENOVATIONS FROM THE SOFTBALL FIELD, CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING LOT AREA, AS WELL AS THE PICKLEBALL COURTS LIGHTING AND BEYOND. AND, AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO DRIVE BY. IT'S REALLY AN AMAZING FACILITY. I GET A LITTLE SAD WALKING BY THE TENNIS COURTS. MAYBE IT'S JUST MY TIMING. IS THERE ANY ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENED IN THERE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO THE POSSE GROUNDS TENNIS COURTS ARE NEXT ON BEING REDONE, SO THEY WILL BE RESURFACED AND REPAINTED COMING THIS SPRING. THE DELAY ON IT A LITTLE BIT IS WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S 55 DEGREES CONSTANTLY FOR A 48 HOUR PERIOD. SO WE'RE NOT HITTING THAT RIGHT NOW. A FEW MONTHS BEFORE I DIDN'T REALIZE, REALIZE THAT WE HAD SOME RENOVATION WORK. AND IS, IS THAT THE NEED FOR RENOVATION? IS IT KEEPING THE ACTIVITY DOWN? IT'S JUST TOO QUIET NOW. I WALK BY THE TENNIS COURT. IT'S JUST SO QUIET. THE TOUGH PART WITH THE, THE SUNSET TENNIS COURTS ARE USED VERY FREQUENTLY. YES. AND THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE THERE. THE POSSE GROUNDS ONES HAVING THE PICKLEBALL LINES. DON'T THROW THE TENNIS PLAYERS HAVING TO LOOK AT THE PICKLEBALL LINES. SO THOSE WILL BE REDONE JUST AS TENNIS ONLY AND THEY'LL GET BACK TO BEING USED. BUT YES, THAT'S THE PART THERE. DO YOU THINK THEY'LL BE USED? DEFINITELY. OKAY. YOU WON'T MAYBE USE THAT AS ANOTHER FOUR OR SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS IF THEY DON'T GET USED. IT'S ENOUGH USAGE. COULD BE. BUT YES, I BELIEVE THE TENNIS COURTS WILL BE USED. THAT'S FINE. I DON'T WANNA ELIMINATE SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED. THEY ARE, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL EMAILS, PHONE CALLS FROM TENNIS PLAYERS, VERY EXCITED THAT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE OPENING SO THEY GET THEIR COURTS BACK KIND OF THING. THAT'S FINE. YES. AND AS KIND OF A GENERAL GUIDELINE FOR CITIES WITH OUR POPULATION, NOT EVEN TAKING TO COUNT THE TOURISM FOR A CITY WITH A POPULATION BETWEEN 10 AND 15,000, THE AVERAGE TIME TO TENNIS COURTS THAT YOU'D AIM FOR IS FOUR. AND WE'RE REALLY AT THAT TWO AT SUNSET, TWO AT POSSE. SO WE'RE HITTING RIGHT IN THAT MARK WITH THOSE ONCE WE GET THOSE BACK OPENED. AND WE'LL GAUGE THE USAGE FROM THERE, BUT THEY'LL BE USED. OKAY. DID THIS, DOES THE PICKLEBALL COURTS COME IN ON BUDGET? YES. IT WAS JUST SLIGHTLY OVER WHAT THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE THAT WENT TO YOU. UM, WITH A FEW OF THE DELAY, A FEW OF THE INCREASES, SANDY CAN SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THEY WERE THINGS LIKE WHEN THEY WERE TEARING UP THE SOFTBALL FIELD, RUNNING INTO POWER THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW, WAS THERE A FEW OTHER LINES HAVING TO REDO THE IRRIGATION, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SINCE THESE FIELDS WERE BUILT BY VOLUNTEERS BACK MANY YEARS AGO, THEY WERE, THEY WERE BACK MANY YEARS AGO AND THERE'S NO REAL MAP OF WHERE THOSE IRRIGATION LINES ARE OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOME SURPRISES. STICK IT'S GETTING BETTER. BLUE STICK A FIELD. YES. YES. AND THEY STILL FOUND SOMETHING AFTERWARDS. YEP, ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE A MAP NOW WE DO OF THIS SECTION. IF THE LOWER SOFTBALL FIELD EVER HAS WORK DONE, THAT'S STILL GUESSWORK, BUT YES, WE DO NOW. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PICKLEBALL COURTS? OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS THE RANGER STATION PARK. SO WE'RE UNDERWAY, OBVIOUSLY PRETTY HEAVILY WITH THAT ONE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THIS WEEK, THERE'S A CRANE THERE RIGHT NOW PUTTING, INSTALLING THAT LARGE HELINA AND AMAZINGLY IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER THAN IT DID IN THE PICTURES. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO GET THOSE UP AND GOING. THEY LOOK REALLY NICE. THE FITNESS STATION IS INSTALLED RIGHT NOW AS WELL AS THE LITTLE RANGER JEEP AND THE SWING. AND THEN THEY'RE FINISHING UP THAT BIG HELINA AND BABY HELINA. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE POURED IN PLACE RUBBER DONE PROBABLY JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS TIME. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY SOON AFTER THAT. SO IT'S EXCITING. THAT'S FINALLY COMING TOGETHER WITH THAT. WE HAVE IN SUMMER 2024, WE COMPLETED THE WALKING TRAIL GRASS, LAWN PARKING, THE LANDSCAPING THERE, [07:15:01] AS WELL AS ADDED THE PUTTING GREEN CONCRETE CORNHOLE, CONCRETE PING PONG. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S, OH, AND THEN THE RENTAL KIOSKS FOR THOSE EQUIPMENT. SO PEOPLE CAN NOW COME AND USE THE RENTAL KIOSK, CHECK OUT CORNHOLE BAGS, CHECK OUT, PUTTING PUTTERS TO GO PUT ON THE MITT, THE PUT GREEN, THOSE KIND OF THINGS THERE AS WELL. HOW DOES THAT WORK? THEY GO UP AND THERE'S JUST A QR CODE THEY CAN SCAN AND IT'S $5 AN HOUR THAT THEY CAN RENT THEM FOR AND THEY'LL GIVE THEM THE EQUIPMENT OUTTA THE LITTLE LOCKER. THEY CAN USE IT, PUT IT BACK. IT'S PRETTY GOOD DEAL. NOTHING'S DISAPPEARED YET, HUH? NO, IT HASN'T. AND WHAT'S KIND OF NICE WITH THIS GROUP THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, IT'S CALLED RENT FUN, IS THE COMPANY. THEY HANDLE ALL THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CALLS AND THAT TYPE OF THING, AND THEY HAVE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR THAT REPLACES THOSE EQUIPMENT. OH. SO IF PUTTERS GO MISSING BREAK, THAT KIND OF THING, THEY REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT THERE. BUT WE, IT IS NEW, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT ISSUE AT ALL YET, ALMOST SURPRISINGLY. BUT IT'S GONE WELL. AND THEN WE GET 50% OF THE REVENUE FROM THAT AND THEN RENT FUND GETS 50%. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL KIND OF PAY FOR THE KIOSK THEMSELVES THAT WAY. EXCELLENT. THEY'RE GOLD THERE. AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER ONES, WE HAVE SOME GAME TABLES SET ON THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BARN. SO IT'S THOSE CHECKERS AND CHESS TABLES THERE AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN PEOPLE THERE PLAYING AND ENJOYING THAT LITTLE COMMUNITY AREA AS WELL. CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR SURE. YOU'RE RENTING THE EQUIPMENT THROUGH THAT, CORRECT. BUT IF YOU HAD YOUR OWN EQUIPMENT, YOU COULD USE THE FACILITY? YES, ABSOLUTELY. YEP. SORRY. YEAH, IF YOU BRING YOUR OWN PING PONG PADDLES, CORNHOLE BAGS, IT'S JUST THERE FOR YOU TO PLAY. JOSH, TO GO BACK TO POSSE GROUNDS A BIT, WHERE ARE YOU WITH YAPPY HOUR AND THE GREENS? YEP. SO YAPPY HOUR IS STILL JUST PARTICIPATING ON THE SOFTBALL FIELD AS THEY HAVE BEEN. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE THEY CAN AND THAT FITS THEIR NEEDS. WE MET WITH THEM, THE DOG PARK DIDN'T FIT WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR DUE TO SIZE, PARKING, RESTROOMS ON SITE, THAT TYPE OF FEEL. AND ULTIMATELY THEIR PRIORITIES HAVING THE DOGS BE ABLE TO RUN ON GRASS AS WELL. AND IT'S THE SAME WITH THE GREYHOUND GROUP. YEAH. WASN'T THAT SUPPOSED TO BE THE GRASS FROM THE, THE BALL FIELD WHERE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE? WASN'T THAT SUPPOSED TO BE SLICED OFF AND USED IN JUST ABOVE? IT WAS COMING TO US SOON, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, I THINK IT MIGHT HELP WITH THAT DISCUSSION. SO YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT, IS THAT TOO SMALL? ISN'T THE DOG PROGRESS ON THE AGENDA COMING SOON? I, I DON'T KNOW. I YEAH, I THINK SO. IS IT OKAY, WE, UM, TENTATIVELY HAVE IT ON THE UPCOMING MEETING SCHEDULE. WE HAVE BEEN BUMPING IT OUT AND OUT, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT WHETHER THROUGH OUR LEASE OF THE OLD ADMINISTRATION BUILDING ON BREWER, WE CAN FENCE IN, UM, THE, UH, GRASS SPACE THERE AND HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR THIS PURPOSE. YOU'VE BEEN RESISTANT TO THAT IN THE PAST BEFORE. WELL, MY ARGUMENT IS WE'RE THE TENANT AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE SPACE AND THAT IF THEY WOULD, UM, AGREE THAT WE WOULD RESTORE IT TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION IF WE WERE TO SOMEHOW NO LONGER BE THE TENANT THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT. WE'RE INSUR THE AREA. UM, SO, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR, THEIR CHANNELS. UM, BUT I KIND OF VIEW IT AS A TENANT IMPROVEMENT. GOOD JOB. JUST LIKE MM-HMM . WE'VE BEEN IMPROVING THE BUILDING FOR THE COURT PURPOSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WITH ULTIMATELY THE GOAL I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WAS, UH, THERE'S LIKE, WE HAVE A FIRST OPTION TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY OUT IN THE FUTURE. UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY THAT HAS NOT COME TO YOU YET BECAUSE IF WE CAN MAKE THIS OTHER OPTION WORK WHERE THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING GRASS, THERE'S PARKING, UM, LESS CONFLICT WITH OTHER TYPES OF USERS, IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD SOLUTION. EXCELLENT. SO SORRY TO JUMP IN ON THAT, BUT THANK YOU. GREAT. UH, THIS IS NOT ABOUT PARKS AND REC SPECIFICALLY, BUT IS THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FULLY UTILIZED AT THIS POINT? I THINK SO, YES. YEAH, WE HAVE THE COURT THERE. WE HAVE PARKS THERE. YEAH. SUSTAINABILITY ENGINEERING. IT'S NOW THE PARKING ADMINISTRATOR'S THERE. YES. LANCE IS EVEN THERE. YEP, HE'S GONE NOW. IT HAS AN OFFICE THERE. IT'S VERY USED. ROBERT, ROBERT WEBER WAS THERE. AUSTIN TOO. WELL HE MOVED HIM THERE TOO. MM-HMM . OKAY. ALRIGHT, CONTINUE. GO AHEAD. IT'S VERY WELL USED IN BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS, SO WE APPRECIATE BEING THERE. YES. AND AS THE OTHER PART FOR THE FIELD, THE GRASS THAT WAS FROM THOSE PICKLEBALL COURTS WAS REUSED AND IT'S AT RANGER STATION PARK, SO THAT IS THE GRASS THAT IS AROUND THE HOUSE AND BARN AREA. THAT MOSTLY THE HOUSE THAT'S PUT AROUND THERE THAT REALLY BEAUTIFIED THAT AREA. SO THAT IS THE REUSED GRASS TURF FROM THE SOFTBALL FIELD. EXCELLENT. JOSHUA, THAT PICTURE IS UP [07:20:01] ALSO JUST THINKING ABOUT POSSE GROUNDS, THE BOCCE BALL. SO WE STILL HAVE THE BALLS UP THERE BY THE TENNIS COURT, BOCCE BALLS DOWN BELOW. IS THAT, ARE WE, ARE YOU GONNA DO ANOTHER BOX SOME SOMEDAY? YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA. WE WANTED TO TEST THIS KIOSK IDEA AT RANGER STATION AND SEE HOW IT WENT. AND THEN IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET A FEW MORE AT POSSE GROUNDS. YEAH. TO EVEN HAVE BASKETBALLS, DISC GOLF EQUIPMENT, BOCCE BALLS, ALL THAT KIND OF THING. YEAH. YEAH. WONDERFUL. COOL. YEAH, SO BACK TO THIS ONE, IT WAS, OUR TOTAL CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THIS AREA WAS 751,000 HERE IN FISCAL YEAR 25. THAT'S FOR THIS OUTDOOR AREA FOR THE RANGER STATION PARK DOING ALL OF THESE AND THE EQUIPMENT'S FINALLY HERE AND GETTING INSTALLED. SO WE'RE CLOSE ON A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. ONE OF THE NEXT SECTIONS COMING UP IN THIS WILL BE THE INTERIOR USE OF THE HISTORIC HOUSE AND BARN. AND THAT'S, SANDY CAME AT A GREAT TIME. SANDY . OKAY, WE'RE DONE WITH THE MEETING NOW WE CAN SHUT DOWN. COOL. YEAH. BUT PART OF THE VISION FOR THE OVERALL HOUSE AND BARN USE AT RANGER STATION PARK, WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE BUILDINGS HISTORIC. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT WERE THERE AND HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY HERE IN SEDONA. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE REVITALIZED SO THEY CAN BE USED. THEY'RE NOT JUST SITTING THERE, BUT THEY'RE SPACES THAT PRESERVE THE HISTORY BUT ARE USABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE. SO AS PART OF THOSE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ADAPT THEM FOR THE BARN SPECI OR FOR THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY THAT WE KEEP SOME HISTORIC KIND OF A LOBBY AREA WHERE YOU'D WALK INTO THAT AND BE ABLE TO VIEW WHAT THIS PLACE USED TO BE, WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF IT, BE ABLE TO TELL THE STORY IN A LITTLE BIT OF A MUSEUM TYPE SETTING IN THE LOBBY, BUT THEN HAVE OTHER AREAS OF THE BUILDING THAT ARE STILL BEING ABLE TO USED BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN USE FOR THOSE MEETING SPACES AND ROOMS, CLUBS TO GATHER, RENTING, RENTAL SPACE, THAT TYPE OF THING THERE TOO. AND THEN BEING, HAVING THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO, BEING ABLE TO REALLY FOSTER THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE CAN HOST SOME OF THE LARGER EVENTS AND GATHERINGS AND GROUP THINGS THERE, WHETHER IT'S BIRTHDAY PARTIES, FAMILY REUNIONS, WHATEVER YOU CAN ENVISION IN THOSE SPACES, SIMILAR TO AS WE DO WITH THE PAVILION AND HUB WHERE WE HAVE EVERY KIND OF USE IMAGINABLE. PEOPLE WILL COME DO YOGA CLASSES, BOOK READINGS, PRESENTATIONS, AND BEYOND IN THOSE TYPE OF SPACES THAT THIS WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL SETTING FOR THEM TO DO. SO WE ARE, OH, I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK HOW DO IT WORK OUT WITH AIR CONDITIONING IN ON THE INSIDE? BECAUSE WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING IT WAS JUST UNUSABLE IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST INSIDE. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO. SO, PERFECT TIMING. UM, SO THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE INSULATED WITH, UM, AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING. AND SO THE BARN IS A BARN. SO, UM, IT'S GOT, UM, MAGNIFICENT ROUGH CUT. UM, IT'S JUST THE, THE WOOD INSIDE IS AMAZING. THE PANELING, THE CEILING, EVERYTHING. IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE WOOD IS ACTUALLY TWO INCHES THICK AND ALL THAT KIND OF, NOT AN INCH AND A HALF. SO, UM, OUR THOUGHT TO START OFF WITH THE BARN WAS FANS. UM, SO THAT WAY IT CIRCULATES THE AIR. THE, WE STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL HINGES ON THE BARN DOORS SO YOU CAN OPEN THE BARN DOORS ON BOTH SIDES AND GET A BREEZE THROUGH. UM, I GATHERED SOME OF THE DATA THAT, UM, TALKS ABOUT HOW MANY DAYS WE HAVE OVER 90, HOW MANY DAYS WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED. IT'S NOT REALLY TOO MANY DAYS THAT WE DON'T COOL OFF IN THE EVENING OR WE'RE COOL IN THE, THE MORNING. SO, UM, THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL APPROACH UNTIL WE GET DIFFERENT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, I'M A FAN OF THAT. YEAH. UH, THANK YOU. HE, SO WHAT DID YOU SAY? HE SAID HE'S A FAN OF THAT? I'M A FAN OF THAT . WELL, I THINK THAT, UM, THE HISTORIC SOCIETY AND HAS MADE, AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAVE BOTH, UH, I HAVE BOTH REQUESTED, STRONGLY REQUESTED THAT WE CONSIDER INSULATING THE BARN EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE ONES PRESERVING THE HISTORICAL NATURE. BUT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE EXHIBITS IN THERE, CAN'T DO IT WITH FANS, THEY WON'T SURVIVE. AND I GUESS IT'S, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE USES WE WANT FOR THE BARN? UH, AND MAYBE WITH THE NEW MEMBERS THAT WERE JUST APPOINTED LAST NIGHT, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO ANOTHER VISIT AND A WALKTHROUGH OF THE BARN TO SEE WHERE THE CURRENT COMMISSION IS. I DUNNO. HMM. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL FLY WITH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GO, THEY'RE VERY STRONG HISTORIC [07:25:01] PRESERVERS. WELL, NO, THEY WANT, THEY WANT INSULATION. NO, THE NEW MEMBERS. SO WE'LL SEE. WE'LL SEE. BUT IT SEEMS THAT IT, YOU, YOU PRESERVE HISTORY SO THAT YOU CAN PRESENT IT TO PEOPLE OTHERWISE WHY PRESERVE IT? AND IF THEY CAN'T BE USED AND, AND SEEN AND UNDERSTOOD, IT'S, IT'S BEING WASTED IN A WAY. SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR MAYBE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT. RIGHT. ANDY, YOU HAVE A, WELL, I'M, I'M WONDERING, JOSH, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE USES THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND AS THE OPERATOR OF THIS FACILITY WOULD PRE BEING ABLE TO DISPLAY ARTWORK AND INSULATE THE BARN AND THAT SORT OF THING, WOULD THAT CONFLICT WITH THE USES THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND? NO, I'M CERTAINLY HAVING THE BARN INSULATED AND BEING ABLE TO USE IT YEAR ROUND WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DAYS IT'S USABLE USES. YEP. IT WOULD, IT ALSO OF COURSE, INCREASES COST AND OTHER FACTORS THERE TOO. BUT THAT'S, SO I, I THINK TIME IS SORT OF, OF THE ESSENCE AND, AND THE TIMING OF DEVELOPING WHAT THE DESIGN OF THE INTERIOR IS GONNA BE. SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW IF, IF COUNCIL IS, IS ALL IN SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE INSULATION AND HEATING AND COOLING OF THAT FACILITY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW NOW. WELL IT WOULD BE INSULATION AND SHEET ROCK THEN, RIGHT? YEAH. IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY, UM, DEVELOPING IT INTO WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THAT, THAT USE. SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A TRICKY TOPIC FOR THE, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE LIKE A STRONG OPINION, IS THAT WE DO HAVE THE NEW HISTORIC COMMISSION LOOK AT IT. WE GET A RECOMMENDATION WE BRING, MAYBE WE'RE NOT DOING THE GRASS AT THE DOG PARK ITEM ON ONE OF THESE FUTURE AGENDAS. AND I'M REPLACING IT WITH A DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION BY JOSH AND SANDY TO YOU ABOUT THIS ITEM. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IT NEEDS SOME TIME ON A COUNCIL AGENDA TO ACTUALLY TALK THROUGH WHAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRES FOR THE INTERNAL USE AND LET'S FIRM UP WHAT WE NEED TO WELL, WHERE, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE INTERIOR DESIGN. WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN ONE ROAD AND THEN HAVE TO DO A COURSE. CORRECT. AND IT'LL JUST INCREASE THE COSTS. YEAH. WE'RE AT, UM, 90% PLAN. SO WE'VE, UM, SUBMITTED THEM TO COM DEV AND SO WE HELD EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS. AND SO WE'RE AT A POINT NOW, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE ARCHITECT AND IT'S, UM, HE'S, HE'S SKETCHED IN WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT VENTILATION INTO THE BARN. UM, BUT IT'S NOT FULL DESIGN, BUT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE READY FOR PRESENTATION AND YOU COULD MAYBE HAVE THE ARCHITECT COME AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT WHAT ALL OF THAT WOULD TAKE. UM, BECAUSE WHAT, LIKE WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS DOES THIS MEAN THAT YOU'RE COVERING UP ALL THAT WOOD BY PUTTING A LAYER OF SHEET ROCK OVER IT? THAT'S MY, THAT'S WHY I DON'T, THEY'LL GO IT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. WELL, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY BOARD APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY A LETTER TO BE SENT TO THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE RECEIVED IT, THAT THAT WAS VERY STRONGLY IN, UH, SUPPORT OF INSULATING THE BUILDING. OH, OKAY. ONLY THERE UNANIMOUS. AS, AS WE GET THIS SCHEDULED AT THIS SOMEDAY COUNCIL MEETING, IT MIGHT BE, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A LITTLE SITE VISIT AT SOME POINT. OKAY. ME TOO. OH, YOU CAN GO THERE. YOU CAN JUMP WHEN, WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE AROUND THAT. YEAH. ACTUALLY SHOW US WHAT'S REALLY HERE AND TALK TO US WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS, JOSH. A QUESTION, I MEAN I, I, I SUSPECT THAT SOME OF US HAVE HAD MORE OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT THING THAN I, THAN I HAVE , SO OKAY. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO A SITE VISIT OVER THERE AND REALLY GET A PERSPECTIVE OF IT FROM SLIDE DOWN THE SLIDE. YEAH, EXACTLY. TEST IT HEAVILY AT THE, WHETHER IT'S A VISIT OR SOME AVAILABILITY THAT WE CAN COME, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU'LL THINK ABOUT IT. TOURNAMENT. THERE YOU GO. THAT TOO. YEAH. LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. WHAT SLIDE WERE WE ON? SO WHY THEY'RE DOING THAT. JUST REAL QUICK, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE THAT THE LARGE PIG HAS BEEN ASSEMBLED. . WHAT? SAY THAT AGAIN? THE HALINA, THE HALINA. HALINA . SHE HAS PICTURES , SO [07:30:01] I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE EVEN LOOKED AT UNTIL COUNCIL KINSELLA GETS TO TO SLIDE DOWN. I KNOW SHE SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE. I SUPPORT THAT. I TAKE IT YOU HAVE PHOTOS? YEAH, I SAW THE . SO WE'RE STILL WAITING. WE'VE GOT, UM, THE CONCERN NOW IS WE'VE GOT SOME LOW TEMPERATURES IN ORDER TO GET THE UM, SURFACE AND SO THAT'S THE CRITICAL TO SCHEDULE A RIBBON CUTTING. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING SINCE APRIL. SO TO SAY THAT WE'RE EXCITED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. . YES. OKAY. NOW BY THE WAY, YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT . OH YEAH. IT'LL PLAY THAT. MM-HMM I'LL DO THAT. SO , THERE WE GO. WE GOT A COOL VIDEO WITH THIS ONE. I LOVE THAT. SO FOR OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ACTION C TWO WHERE WE'RE IMPROVING THE CITY COMMUNICATIONS AND MESSAGING SHOWCASING THE ACTIVITIES OF THE CALENDAR OF OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE PARK. SO WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, OBVIOUSLY A HUGE COMMUNITY THING, THE SEDONA PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WE HOSTED OVER 35 UNIQUE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN 2024. FROM THE SMALLEST ACTIVITY TO, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATION OF SPRING AS YOU SEE KIND OF IN THE VIDEO HERE AND THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES. SO TRYING TO GET LOTS OF THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND PROGRAMS GOING ON, INCLUDING TAKING ON A NEW ONE, WHICH WAS AT OCTOBER FEST THAT THE ROTARY CLUB DIDN'T DO THIS YEAR. SO WE KIND OF TOOK THAT ON LAST MINUTE AND MADE IT A FESTIVE FALL PROGRAM. WORKED PRETTY WELL EXCEPT FOR THE WEATHER THAT DAY. A LITTLE COLD AND RAINY BUT STILL TOOK PLACE. STILL HAD PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME. COLD OCTOBER FEST. IT WOULDN'T HAD, YOU WOULD'VE HAD GOOD WEATHER. YEAH, THAT'S IT EXACTLY. UM, PART OF THIS WE EXPANDED A LOT OF OUR OFFERINGS SUCH AS ADDING THAT FESTIVAL LIKE I SAID, AND THEN INCREASED OUR RED DIRT CONCERT OFFERINGS. PROBABLY OUR MOST POPULAR, NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST WELL ATTENDED, BUT OUR FAN FAVORITE EVENT WOULD BE THOSE RED DIRT CONCERT SERIES ONES. UM, WE EXPANDED THOSE BY EXTENDING THE HOURS AND UM, BEING ABLE TO OFFER MORE ACTS THAT WERE ABLE TO COME AND PLAY DURING THOSE AND REALLY RECEIVED GOOD FEEDBACK ON THAT. AND PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT MORE OF THOSE CONCERTS FOR THOSE. WE HAD NINE DATES THAT WE DID THE CONCERTS TYPICALLY TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT BANDS ON EACH OF THOSE NIGHTS AND WE HAD OVER 180 BANDS APPLY FOR THOSE SPOTS. SO THEY'RE HOTLY CONTESTED ON WHO WANTS TO COME PLAY IN THOSE THAT WE HAVE A COMMITTEE GOING THROUGH AND CHOOSING WHO GETS TO DO THOSE. UM, FACTORING IN A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS THERE. SO REALLY POPULAR ON THOSE. ONE OF OUR GOALS THAT WE'RE IS THAT A CITIZEN COMMITTEE OR IS THAT A STAFF COMMITTEE? BOTH. BOTH. SO IT'S PARTIAL, PARTIAL PARKS AND REC REC STAFF. PARTIAL CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH AND LISTENING TO 180 BANDS AND THEIR WAGE REQUESTS AND THEN PUTTING TOGETHER SOME SHOWS. THAT'S AWESOME. IS IT, IS IT GROWING COMPETITION BECAUSE OUR REPUTATION IS GETTING OUT THERE OR THE WORD IS GETTING OUT THERE, DO YOU BELIEVE? YES, DEFINITELY. AND BANDS WILL SAY IT TOO, THAT THEY WANT THAT SHOT ON THE PAVILION OVERLOOKING THE RED ROCKS THAT THEY CAN USE AS A COVER PHOTO AND THAT KIND OF THING TOO. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE VENUE THEY GET TO PLAY ON AND IT'S PART, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT IT'S ONLY GONNA GET BETTER AS ONE OF OUR GOALS FOR THE NEXT YEAR IS REALLY EXPANDING THAT PAVILION SEEDING AS WELL. CAN I ASK ABOUT THAT ? OH GOOD. WELL WE HAVE THE GRASS AREA NOW AND THEN A SLOPE UP IN THE HILL THAT'S KIND OF A DESERT WASTELAND SLOPE THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL CLIMBING ON AND SITTING ON ANYWAY, EXPANDING THOSE GIAN BASKETS A FEW ROWS BACK WITH SOME SEEDING ON THOSE. SO WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND WHO'S ABLE TO COME AND SIT AND FIT IN THAT SPACE FOR THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS. AND ONE OF OUR OTHER MAIN GOALS IS GETTING A LOT OF THE EVENTS OFF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THERE REALLY TRYING TO PRESERVE THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR SPORTS. YEAH. SO ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DID IS PUT POSTS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PAVILION THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ROPE OFF. SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO LIQUOR IN THE PAVILION VENUE, WHICH WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO BEFORE WITHOUT THE UGLY, UGLY ORANGE FENCING ALL AROUND. SO WITH THOSE POSTS AND ROPE, WE CAN ATTACH THAT AROUND THE WHOLE VENUE AND ARE ABLE TO HOST THINGS LIKE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL, FESTIVAL AND THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS THERE AND GET THOSE OFF THE ATHLETIC FIELD. SO EXPANDING THE PAVILION WILL EVEN FURTHER HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE EVENTS THERE. JOSH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS? FABULOUS. NO, FABULOUS. NO, THAT VENUE IS GREAT BEING THE WAY IT FACES INTO THE HILL AND THE SOUND MITIGATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE THAT A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT AND LET IT YES, FOR SURE. IN ADDITION TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, WE ALSO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS OF COURSE, WHICH IS INCLUDING POOL, SPORTS USAGE, UM, OPEN GYM, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO FROM THOSE, ONE OF [07:35:01] OUR MAIN KINDA WINS THIS YEAR WAS EXPANDING THE POOL SEASON INSTEAD OF CLOSING ON LABOR DAY. WE WERE ABLE TO EXTEND THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER AND DUE TO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADD ABOUT 2000 SWIMMERS THAT USED THE POOL IN THAT EXPANDED FALL SEASON. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT THAT'S BEEN REALLY, UM, A REAL DIFFICULT CHALLENGE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND YOU WRAPPED YOUR, UM, ARMS AROUND IT AND GOT THAT IN A WAY THAT JUST EXPANDED, UM, YOU KNOW, A REAL AMENITY AND AND I'VE GOTTEN SUCH GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THAT FROM USERS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. GREAT, THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS OF, OF THAT NUMBER? NO, I DON'T. I WISH I DID. UM, FOR THAT, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE WITH THE POOL WE DON'T TAKE REGISTRATIONS, IT'S MORE, IT'S ALL JUST DROP IN. SOME OF THEM ARE DAY LIKE PUNCH PASSES THAT THEY DO, SO WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT. BUT IT'S MOSTLY JUST PEOPLE COMING AND PAYING THEIR $2 AS THEY ENTER. ALSO HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO CARMEN WHO'S OUR POOL SUPERVISOR ON THIS ONE. SHE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO GETTING SOME EXTRA LIFEGUARDS THIS YEAR AND REALLY GETTING THAT SEASON EXTENDED. SO SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB THERE. ONE OTHER THING WE'RE ADDING WITH THE POOL IS WE'RE GONNA DO OUR WINTER SWIM LESSONS AGAIN LIKE WE DID LAST SEASON. SO IT'S GONNA BE, YEAH , THE POOL'S STILL HEATED, WE'LL BRING OUT THOSE HEATERS ON DECK AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR KIDS IN THE POOL AND DO SOME SWIM LESSONS AND THE KIDS THAT DID IT LAST YEAR HAD A GREAT TIME DOING IT. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY THAT AGAIN DURING WINTER SCHOOL BREAK THE, THEN OF COURSE WE ALSO HAVE YOUTH BASKETBALL, OUR SUMMER CAMPS. THIS PAST SUMMER WE OFFERED 13 DIFFERENT SUMMER CAMPS RANGING FROM EVERYTHING SOCCER AND BASKETBALL TYPE TO YOGA TO CODING AND SCIENCE VORTEX CAMPS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS, THEATER THROUGH ALL THOSE. AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET 260 KIDS THROUGH THOSE CAMPS THIS SUMMER. MANY OF WHICH BEING UNIQUE THAT ONLY CHOSE ONE OR TWO CAMPS THAT KIND OF FIT WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AND OTHERS THAT DID ABOUT EVERY CAMP ALL SUMMER. SO IT WAS GREAT KEEPING THE KIDS BUSY AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE OF COURSE LOOK TO CONTINUE EXPANDING UPON. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON FOR THIS UPCOMING SUMMER, ADDING A SKATEBOARDING AND A PICKLEBALL CAMP AND GET KIDS INVOLVED IN BOTH OF THOSE KINDA UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES THERE TOO. ONE OF OUR GOALS, WHICH WAS ACTION C ONE, WAS TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND WE'RE DOING THAT FOR ALL OF OUR PROMOTIONAL EVENTS AND FLYERS THAT ARE GOING TO THE SCHOOLS ESPECIALLY AS WELL AS THE BULLETIN BOARDS, MAKING SURE WE'RE HITTING THE ENGLISH AND SPANISH ON THOSE. AND WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK AND REGISTRATION FROM THE SPANISH COMMUNITY DOING THAT AS WELL. THIS, OH THESE ARE THE SUPPORTING COMMUNITY CONTRACTS LIKE WITH EACH GOAL AREA. THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT SUPPORT COMMUNITY, UM, THE CHAMBER VISITOR CENTER, THE SEDONA COMMUNITY CENTER, PUBLIC LIBRARY, HISTORIC SOCIETY, AND VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS. SO NOW THAT I'VE READ A SLIDE TO YOU, YOU PROBABLY ARE GOOD. , WHY IS THE CHAMBER UM, VISITOR CENTER HERE AND NOT IN IN TOURISM? IT MAYBE SHOULD BE IN TOURISM PROBABLY 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE MY FIRST PASS AT IT AND I WAS LIKE VISITOR CENTER, HERE WE GO. YEAH, RESIDENTS AREN'T VISITORS. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN REALISTICALLY MOVE THAT ONE TO TOURISM. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. YEAH, I THINK NOW IT GOES INTO THE ARTS AND CULTURE PART, BUT BEFORE WE COULD DO THAT, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ONE OTHER THING WHILE WE'RE ON HERE. SOME OF THE PARK UPGRADES, IT TALKS, THE MASTER PLAN TALKS ABOUT PROVIDING A VARIETY OF FACILITIES AND PARK AMENITIES THAT SERVE SEDONAS RESIDENTS VARIED INTERESTS AND ABILITIES. SO A FEW THINGS ON THAT EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO COUNCIL. ONE OF THOSE WAS THE LIGHTS AT THE SKATE PARK. THEY AREN'T INSTALLED YET BUT THEY'RE COMING AND THERE'S BEEN ENORMOUS KIND OF HAPPINESS OR EXCITEMENT ABOUT THOSE COMING FOR THIS. THE COMMUNITY THAT'S THERE, THAT'S ONE OF THE VERY WELL USED FACILITIES IN THE PARK. AND SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LIGHTS THERE AND GET THOSE THERE SOON, PEOPLE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT AS WELL AS THE DISC GOLF COURSE. THAT ONE I DO HAVE A UNIQUE USER'S NUMBER ON. WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED U DISC. WHEN PEOPLE GO THEY CAN SCAN IT AND IT'S A LITTLE LIKE MAP AND SHOW THEY CAN KEEP THEIR SCORE ON IT SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. BUT THEY ARE THROUGH UDIS. SINCE THAT'S BEEN BUILT, WE'VE HAD 1,863 UNIQUE USERS PLAYING THE COURSE JUST AS A YEAR ALONE SINCE IT'S BUILT. SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN ABOUT SUMMER 2023. OH, OKAY. SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. STILL NOT BAD. NOPE, DEFINITELY NOT. SO WE'VE HAD THAT FOR UNIQUE USERS AND THEN JUST THIS YEAR WAS 5,003 5,301 ROUNDS THAT WERE PLAYED. SO MANY OF THOSE ARE MULTIPLE, BUT THAT'S SHOWING HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE REALLY APPRECIATING THAT AMENITY THAT WE DON'T SEE 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF TUCKED BACK AND HIDDEN IN THE PARK AND THERE'S A BIG COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE BACK [07:40:01] PLAYING THAT AND THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES CHECKING IN AND KEEPING SCORE. JOSH, HOW IS THE PICKLEBALL LIGHTING WORKING? GREAT PEOPLE USING IT. THEY, IT GOES OFF ON A TIMER. NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT BRIGHT LIGHTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. WE HAVE NOT HAD A SINGLE COMPLAINT ON THE LIGHTS. AMAZING. NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF HOT TUB LOOKING TIMERS THAT ARE THERE AND TURN OFF AFTER AN HOUR AND THEN AUTOMATICALLY ARE OFF AFTER 10:00 PM AND THEY'VE BEEN AWESOME TO THE DISC GOLF. UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE ROUNDS OR USERS, EITHER NUMBER, HOW THAT BROKE DOWN BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS? YES, SORT OF. SO YOU CAN TELL WHERE SOMEONE REGISTERED FROM. SO WITHIN 20 MILES WAS 627 OF THOSE UNIQUE USERS AND OVER 100 MILES WAS 752. WOW. WOW. SO WE'RE LITTLE ABOUT 50 50 ON WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTS OR VISITORS, A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE AWARE OF THAT. AND COMING DOWN FROM THE FLAGSTAFF AREA SEASONALLY IT'S ABSOLUTELY NICER. AND COMING UP FROM THE VALLEY AS WELL, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HIT SOME IN THE SIGHT IN THE CIRCLES I GUESS THAT PEOPLE KNOW AND THEY'RE COMING UP. HAVE WE HAD ANY REGISTERED CONFLICTS? YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE SIGNS UP SAYING BEWARE. ANY, ANY CONFLICTS BETWEEN WALKERS AND DISC GOLF PLAYERS AND THE DISCS? NO. WHEN WE WERE DOING THE TRIAL THERE WAS KIND OF THAT ISSUE 'CAUSE IT WASN'T AS WELL SIGNED. THERE WASN'T THE PERMANENT SIGNAGE AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT SINCE WE'VE HAD THE PERMANENT SIGNAGE AND BASKETS HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING BOCCE BALL USE IS, IS STILL KIND OF NEW. MM-HMM IS THE LEAGUE SIGNUP GROWING NOW? DO YOU SEE? I MEAN MY FOUR FAVORITE GUYS I SEE THERE ALL THE TIME , BUT I DON'T GET A SENSE OF HOW MANY OTHER FOLKS ARE REALLY USING IT OR NOT. YEAH, IT WILL, IT STARTED SLOW. WE HAD FOUR TEAMS IN OUR FIRST LEAGUE FOR IT. SO THAT'S FOUR GROUPS OF FOUR OR MORE THAT WERE ON THOSE TEAMS THERE. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO GROW IT IS DOING KIND OF AN OPEN GYM CONCEPT WHERE WE HAVE A DAY WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST COME PLAY WHETHER THEY'RE BEGINNERS OR ADVANCED AND MEET OTHER PEOPLE THAT WAY TO FORM A TEAM THE NEXT TIME WE DO A LEAGUE. SO IT'LL GROW. I GOTTA TELL YOU ABOUT USED TO SKATING PARK. SKATE PARK, SOMEBODY CAME UP AND THANKED ME FOR THE LIGHTS TO COMING IN. THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT. OH GOOD. I WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING. , YOU KNOW, KATHY AND I WERE AT THE POOL OVER THE SUMMER ONE DAY AND WE RAN INTO SOME FOLKS WHEN WE WERE PARKING AND THEY WERE FROM BOSTON AND THEY CAME TO PLAY DISC GOLF IN SEDONA. IT'S AWESOME BECAUSE IT WAS ON SOME WEBSITE. YEP. IT WAS, THE VIEWS AREN'T TOO BAD. YEAH. VIEWS ARE FANTASTIC. . BUT THEY SPECIFICALLY CAME TO TO SED. IT WASN'T. THEY WERE IN SEDONA AND THEY FOUND OUT THEY CAME TO SEDONA TO PLAY DISC GOLF HERE. YEAH, THAT'S COOL. THAT'S VERY GOOD. WHICH ALSO MEANS THAT SOME OF YOUR NUMBERS ABOUT WITHIN 20 MILES ARE ACTUALLY VISITORS AND NOT UM, RESIDENTS. RIGHT. 'CAUSE DO THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR ZIP CODE IN? YEAH, SO THE ZIP CODE TELLS IT'S, IT'S QUITE EASY TO TRAVEL WITH YOUR DISC GOLF SET. SO YEAH. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. EXACTLY. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE UM, BIKE, UH, I DUNNO WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT COURSE. YEAH. UH, BIKE PARK. BIKE PARK, BIKE SKILLS PARK. UM, IT WAS BROUGHT, IT WAS MENTIONED LAST NIGHT WHEN WE HAD UM, ALL OF THE VARIOUS CYCLISTS HERE MM-HMM THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT UM, THE ACTUAL SKILL AREAS. I'M NOT A BIKER SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE REAL TERMS ARE, BUT THAT IT WAS STARTING TO DEGRADE. UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU AS PARKS AND RECS A AGREE WITH THAT AND B WHAT WHAT YOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THAT. HOW, HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO IT? WHAT CAN BE DONE? BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF DIRT YOU HAVE TO MOVE. YEAH. YES, ABSOLUTELY. UM, I PARTIALLY AGREE WITH THAT. I DID WALK THAT WITH SEVERAL OF THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL AS UM, JORDAN WHO TAKES CARE OF THE BIKE PARK AND RYAN HAYES WHO'S THE PARK MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR GOING THROUGH THAT AND GETTING SOME OF THEIR FEEDBACK. ESSENTIALLY YES, DIRT IS GONNA SLIDE DOWN THE HILL AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE DIRT HERE AND THERE IT, THERE ARE AREAS THAT NEED MAINTENANCE AND THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT ARE IN GREAT CONDITION. SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN GOING FORWARD WITH JORDAN AS WELL AS A CONTRACTOR THAT HELPED BUILD THE SKATE, BUILD THE BIKE PARK BACK WHEN IT WAS BUILT THAT THEY'RE GONNA KIND OF TEAM IT TOGETHER. ONE OF THOSE COMPLAINTS IS THE PUMP TRACK THAT'S KIND OF STARTING TO SLANT A LITTLE BIT THAT THEIR PLANS TO WIPE OUT THE PUMP TRACK AND REBUILD IT, LEVEL IT BACK OUT. THE GOAL WITH THE PUMP TRACK IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PEDAL AND YOU CAN KIND OF JUST RIDE ON THE BUMPS THE WHOLE WAY AROUND WHERE IT'S STARTING TO SLANT, YOU GOTTA PEDAL BACK UP THE HILL. SO FIXING SOME OF THOSE THINGS. THE OTHER ISSUE OR THE OTHER AREA OF CONCERN WAS THE DROP ZONE, WHICH IS A MORE INTERMEDIATE ADVANCED TYPE AREA AND IT'S LEANING MORE AND MORE TOWARDS BECOMING ADVANCED THE WAY IT'S SLANTING AND THE ELEVATION OF THAT [07:45:01] AREA. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER AREA THAT WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE AND KEEP THE ADVANCED EXPERT AREA 'CAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THAT BUT MAKE KIND OF AN AREA TO THE RIGHT OF THAT THAT'S MORE BEGINNER, INTERMEDIATE FOCUSED FOR THEIR SKILL LEVEL THERE. THANK YOU. IS THAT DONE IN HOUSE? YES. YES. THAT IS PRIMARILY DONE IN HOUSE. THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE WALKED IT WITH, WHO WAS PART OF WHEN THE BIKE SKILLS PARK WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, WE'RE HOPING HE CAN COME BACK AND HELP BE KIND OF A SECOND WORKER ON THAT PROJECT ALONG WITH JORDAN WHO IS THE MAINTAINS THE BIKE SKILLS PARK. BUT YES, IS THERE A VOLUNTEER EVENT EFFORT DAY THAT THE CYCLISTS COME AND HELP? FOR SURE. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL. ESPECIALLY AS WE GET CLOSE TO THE MOUNTAIN BIKE FESTIVAL DAY, CLEANING IT UP AND MAKING IT GREAT FOR THAT FESTIVAL BEFORE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GET ON IT. BUT YES, THERE ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND THUNDER MOUNTAIN BIKES AND THOSE BIKE SHOPS AND THE GROUPS LIKE THAT ARE GREAT AT PROVIDING VOLUNTEERS AND GETTING SOME WORK DONE OUT THERE. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY AS PART OF THIS WAS AN A FEW OTHER PARK UPGRADES AND A HUGE KUDOS TO RYAN HAYES, WHO'S THE PARK MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR AND HIS STAFF, THEY'VE, THEY REDID THOSE BOCCE BALL COURTS IN-HOUSE. THEY DID THE DOG PARK EXPANSION IN-HOUSE AND A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS THEY'RE CURRENTLY RED REDOING THE BEACH VOLLEYBALL COURT THAT'S THERE AND IT LOOKS AMAZING AND IT'S NOT EVEN DONE YET COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS SAND IN A VOLLEYBALL COURT BUT WAS KIND OF AGED AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE EYESORE IN THE PARK AND THEY'VE BUILT A ROCK WALL AROUND IT SO THE BALLS ARE NO LONGER ROLLING DOWN THE HILL, PUT UP SOME NEW FENCING, UM, A HUGE CITY OF SEDONA LOGO THAT'S UP ON THE FENCING AND SOME METAL ARTWORK THAT LOOKS GREAT AND FRESH SAND THROUGHOUT THE COURT. THAT LOOKS REALLY NICE. UM, AND THEN HE'LL ALSO BE DOING A LOT OF THE WORK ON THAT PAVILION UPGRADE AND EXPANDING THOSE SEATINGS THERE. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO KEEP WORKING IN THE PARK AND UPDATING SOME OF THESE AREAS AND MAKING IT NICE. ALRIGHT, ARE YOU DONE OR THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT IN THIS SECTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. SO I THOUGHT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR ACTIVITIES, BUT I SEE ONE ON THE LIST THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD OF. SO WHAT IS ECSTATIC DANCE THURSDAYS? OOH, GOTTA YEAH, YOU GOTTA GO TO BELIEVE IT. YEAH. REALLY? I DON'T, YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. DANCE. I'M NOT AWARE OF THIS ONE. THE LOCAL SEDONA PEOPLE DO THIS. OH YEAH, I'VE SEEN THAT. IT'S QUITE, QUITE COOL. IT IS, YES. IT IS A VERY SEDONA E ACTIVITY THAT PEOPLE COME OUT AND THERE'S A DJ EACH WEEK THAT COMES OUT AND PLAYS AND PEOPLE DANCE AND DO THEIR OWN THING ON THE PAVILION LAWN ONE WITH THE HUMMING MUSIC LIKE TRANS MUSIC. UH, I DO KNOW WE HAD THAT IN ASHEVILLE TOO. OKAY. AND I, I USED TO DO THAT. IT'S SUPER FUN. I SAW THEM AT BOARD FEST. IT WAS QUITE, IT WAS FUN. IT WAS FUN. YEAH, IT IS. AND THEY, IT WAS KIND OF A GROUP THAT USED TO JUST DO IT ON THEIR OWN. THEY'D SHOW UP IN AN AREA OF THE PARK AND DO THEIR OWN THING AND THEY WERE EVENTUALLY GETTING 50 TO 60 PEOPLE THAT WOULD SHOW UP. SO IT'S LIKE, LET'S KIND OF MAKE THIS A PROGRAM AND MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL THING. AND PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE'D LET THEM DO IT ON THE PAVILION, KIND OF MAINTAIN SOME OF THEIR SOUND FROM THEIR EVENT TOO, AND PROMOTING IT AS ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS AND WORKING WITH THEM. AND THEY REGULARLY GET A HUNDRED, 150 PEOPLE OUT THERE DANCING AND DOING THEIR THING NOW. AND IT'S A POPULAR ACTIVITY. WOW. GOOD FOR THEM. GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. IT IS, JOSH, YOU'VE DONE SOME AMAZING THINGS AND THE PROGRESS IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL. IT HAS, IT REALLY HAS. I MEAN, THE LIST IS FANTASTIC, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. [5. ADJOURNMENT] WE HAVE A GREAT, ANY FINAL QUESTION? OKAY. UH, WE'RE GOING, GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING TILL TOMORROW. 8:00 AM OH, YOU, YOU'RE JUST CONTINUING THE MEETING. YOU'RE NOT ADJOURNING THE MEETING. . OH, WHAT DID I SAY? CONTINUED. I'M SORRY, YOU SAID ADJOURNED. YES, JO, JOANNE REMINDED ME TOO. UM, BE SURE THAT YOU, YEAH, I KNOW. SHE REMINDED ME TOO AND I STILL SAID I DIDN'T SAY ADJOURNING. SO WHAT DID I SAY? YOU SAID AD SAID ADURING. I DID SAY ADJOURNED. OKAY. WHAT'S TO HABIT? BUT YES, WE ARE CONTINUING THE MEETING TO 8:00 AM IT'S, I, I DO IT LIKE TWICE A YEAR SO IT'S ALRIGHT. WE'LL SEE YOU ALL TOMORROW 8:00 AM DAMN. YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S LOTS OF EXTRA. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.