* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. START NOW. YOU [00:00:01] READY? [1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE] OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY. WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND NOW A MOMENT OF SILENCE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [2. ROLL CALL] MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE ROLL CODE? MAYOR JALO. PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU IS ABSENT AND EXCUSED, CORRECT? COUNCILOR DUNN? HERE. COUNCILOR FOLTZ. PRESENT. COUNCILOR FURMAN? HERE. COUNCILOR KINSELLA. PRESENT. COUNCILOR FAF. PRESENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [3. CONSENT ITEMS - APPROVE] OKAY, ITEM THREE, CONSENT ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE COUNCIL STAFF OR THE PUBLIC CAN PULL AN ITEM FOR A DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE STAFF? ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS THREE A THROUGH F SECOND. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. UH, ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WERE UNANIMOUS APPOINTMENTS? WE HAVE NONE. [5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER & COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS] SUMMARY OF KURT, EVENTS OF MYSELF, THE COUNCIL, THE, UH, THE MANAGER FOR, UH, OR THE MANAGER. ? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, YOU ASKED FOR A SUMMARY AND BRIEF YES. ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATIONAL COLLABORATIVE OR THE GSRC? YES. SO TO, UM, KEEP IT REALLY BRIEF, THE THREE TEAMS, THERE ARE THREE TEAMS NOW. THE, THERE'S A TEAM THAT'S DOING COMMUNICATION EDUCATION. THERE'S A TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON DATA MONITORING AND GATHERING PROBABLY PETE'S FAVORITE IDEA. AND THEN THERE IS A TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON ROUTE, UM, ROUTE PLANNING. THEY CALL THEMSELVES THE RATS TEAM, BUT I CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT STANDS FOR. SO IT'S ROUTE PLANNING. UM, THE ROUTE PLANNING TEAM HAS BEEN LOOKING AT ALL THE TRAILS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST THAT ARE OHV TRAILS, NOT HIKING OR BIKING TRAILS, JUST OHV TRAILS. AND, UM, TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SOME OF THOSE COULD BE READJUSTED OR, UM, REMOVED OR IF THEY CAN BE MOVED. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON. UM, THE EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION TEAM. ON THE COMMUNICATION SIDE, WE'VE MOSTLY BEEN GATHERING INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER TEAMS, LOOKING TOWARDS THE IDEA OF GETTING GRANT FUNDING, MOSTLY FROM STATE PARKS, WHICH HAS A LOT OF GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO, UM, THE BEST JOB. SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN FROM THE OTHER TEAMS AS TO WHAT THEY WANT. THE EDUCATION TEAM HAS BEEN LOOKING, UH, OR STARTING TO LOOK AT, UM, GATHERING UP WHERE ALL THE SIGNAGE IS, UH, IN OUR AREA, HOW MUCH OF IT THERE IS, WHERE IT'S LOCATED, WHAT IT SAYS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE IN DOING THE JOB THAT IT SHOULD BE DOING. SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET THE INVENTORY. THE SECOND STEP IS THEN TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER IT IS EFFECTIVE OR APPROPRIATELY PLACED, UM, UNDERSTANDING HOW FAST THE VEHICLES ARE MOVING, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. UM, THE DATA MONITORING AND GATHERING TEAM, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING STILL MOSTLY ON GATHERING INFORMATION AROUND VEHICLE COUNTS. SO THE USAGE THAT'S HAPPENING, AND THEY DO A WEDNESDAY AND THEY DO A SATURDAY, AND THEY TRY TO, IT'S ONCE A MONTH AND THEY TRY TO PICK A WEEK AND A WEEKEND WHEN WE HAVE A LONG WEEKEND IN THAT MONTH. SO THAT WE ASSUME WE'LL HAVE MORE TRAFFIC DURING THAT AND WE CAN COMPARE IT THEN TO A MIDDAY. SO WE ROTATE THEM AROUND BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TRAILS HERE, UM, IN THE SEDONA AREA. OBVIOUSLY INSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, WE REALLY ONLY HAVE SNUBBY AND MORGAN, SO WE ARE MONITORING THAT AS WELL. AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR OWN SPECIAL, UM, INDIVIDUAL WHO HANGS OUT AROUND MORGAN AND IS, UH, LOOKING OUT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE SPEED LIMITS ARE ACTUALLY WORKING. YEAH, THE INDIVIDUAL HANGS OUT ON MORGAN . HE HANGS OUT ON MORGAN KIND OF MONITORING MORGAN SPECIFICALLY. UM, AS FAR AS ONE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, UH, DON'T CURRENTLY KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS. I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO FIND OUT. UM, BUT THAT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE NEPA STUDY WAS COMPLETED AT THE END OF THE YEAR AS IT WAS PREDICTED IT WOULD BE, UM, FOR MORGAN AND EXPANDING OUT THE MORGAN, UM, PARK AREA PARKING AREA. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CURRENTLY IS, BUT I CAN GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. AND THE ENTERPRISE TEAM IS DUE TO RELEASE THEIR, [00:05:01] UM, THEY CALL IT A PROJECT MANAGEMENT ACTION ITEMS THAT THEY BELIEVE NEED TO BE DONE IN ORDER FOR US TO GET TO CONCRETE RESULTS BY MID-FEBRUARY. SO WHEN THAT IS RELEASED, THAT IS THE TIME WHEN WE WILL LOOK AT ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITHIN EACH OF THE OTHER WORKING TEAMS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO, TO PIVOT AND WORK ON THINGS THAT WILL GET THE DATA THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE FOREST SERVICE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONCRETE ANSWERS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE, WE'VE TOLD THEM WE HAVE. SO I HOPE THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. THAT WAS VERY GOOD. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ON MORGAN ROAD, AND THEY SEEMED VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESPONSE FROM SEDONA PD AND OUR CHIEF, AND THAT THE SPEED LIMITS, THE REDUCTION, THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION SEEMS TO BE WORKING WITH THE, UH, THE SOUND. SO I APPRECIATE IT, CHIEF, THE HARD WORK THAT YOUR, ALL YOUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN DOING. SO THANK YOU. UH, PETE, DO YOU WANT, WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? THANKS. THANKS, MAYOR. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE CP WATERSHED PARTNERSHIP AND WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL, WE, UH, APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOST A RURAL GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE WORKSHOP. UM, IT'S SPONSORED BY A SU, THE BABBITT CENTER AND OTHERS, UM, DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. AND THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE ON THIS TEAM. IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE. WE HAD OUR FIRST PLANNING MEETING JUST THE OTHER DAY. JOHN SNICKERS FROM ARIZONA WATER AND I ARE BOTH ON THE PLANNING TEAM. AND SO JUNE 18TH, ABOUT 40 PEOPLE WILL BE INVITED FROM AROUND NORTHERN ARIZONA TO, UH, TALK ALL THINGS WATER, YOU KNOW, STATUS, POLICY, TECHNOLOGY. IT SHOULD BE A REALLY INTERESTING, UH, GROUP. AND WE'RE REALLY QUITE FORTUNATE THAT, UM, TO HAVE WON ONE OF THESE, THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND OR THE THIRD ONE THAT A SU HAS DONE, UM, AROUND THE STATE. SO THE TEAM THAT THEY'VE SENT, UH, IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE. SO I WILL REPORT, UH, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT THIS WA THIS EFFORT AND CONTINUING TO EVALUATE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR AQUIFERS IS ONGOING FOREVER. , I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING US UPDATED ON THAT. SO, UH, FOR MANY, UH, WHO ARE HERE, UH, YOU MAY NOT KNOW, THIS IS ROBERT WEBER'S LAST WEEK. UH, IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING, BUT HE'S GOING ON TO BETTER THINGS AND GOING TO ENJOY HIS LIFE, UH, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY LET HIM, AND HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT HE'S WATCHING, I BELIEVE, TO SAY THANK YOU TO ROBERT WEBER. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT HE HAS LEFT THIS CITY IN A FAR BETTER PLACE THAN WHEN HE ARRIVED HERE ON JANUARY 25TH, 2021. REALLY ONLY A FEW YEARS, AND HE'S DONE A LOT. SO, AND YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT. SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, ROBERT WEBER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING OUR CITY TRANSIT SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING. UH, HE'S ORDERED THE FIRST CITY BUSES, UH, TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES, UH, LAUNCHED IN, UH, MAY, UH, SORRY, MARCH OF 2022, THE FIRST ON DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT SYSTEM IN SEDONA. HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GRANT FUNDING SINCE 2021. THE CITY HAS BEEN AWARDED OR APPLIED FOR $2.3 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SEDONA TRANSIT SYSTEM, UH, MOST PRODUCTIVE RURAL TRANSIT SYSTEM IN THE STATE. AS OF, UH, JANUARY 19TH, THE SHUTTLE SYSTEM HAS LOGGED IN OVER 900, 11,592 PASSENGER BOARDINGS. SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE HARD WORK THAT ROBERT HAS DONE FOR US. AND EVEN JUST FOR A SHORT TIME, UH, HE'S BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO A LOT OF US HERE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THE PAST TWO WEEKS, THIS PAST THURSDAY, I WAS INTERVIEWED IN PRESCOTT BY OUR NEW LIAISON FOR MARK FINCHEM, SENATOR MARK FINCHEM, ALONG WITH MAYOR CAL SHELEY SHEHE, WHERE WE DISCUSSED, UH, OUR RECENT, UH, HOUSING EMERGENCY RESOLUTION RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON FRIDAY. I, THIS IS AT A PETE'S ALLEY, WAS, UH, I SPOKE AT THE ER, HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? PETE REER. YEAH, YOU CAN'T DO IT. ER ZA. OKAY. LOCAL GRADUATION EVENT. UH, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE FUNDED FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS AND HAS BEEN, UH, SPEARHEADED BY KIMBER LANNING, A LOCAL, UH, RESIDENT WHO'S THE CEO OF, UH, LOCAL FIRST. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW HER, SHE IS, UH, A REAL POWERHOUSE. UH, THEY PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO MANY SPANISH COMMUNITY IN THE SPANISH COMMUNITY THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN OPENING THEIR OWN BUSINESS, AND YET MANY OF THEM HAVE NEVER EVEN OPENED A CHECKING ACCOUNT. SO THEY'VE BEEN REALLY BROUGHT UP AND TAUGHT HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS. UH, [00:10:01] SOME OF THE STATS I HAVE IS THAT THERE'RE 149 BUSINESSES THAT ENTERED THE PROGRAM, UH, IN THE GREATER PHOENIX AREA IN VERDE VALLEY. UH, THE GRADUATES COLLECTED IN SALES IN 2024, MORE THAN $28 MILLION. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T WRITE A CHECK. SO, UH, IT'S INTERESTING THAT, UH, ONE AZ HAS TAUGHT SOME OF THEM EXACTLY HOW TO WRITE CHECKS, HOW TO OPEN CHECKING ACCOUNTS, HOW TO DO ACCOUNTING, AND REALLY HAVE A BUSINESS MODEL. SO OVER THE YEAR, OKAY, UH, OVER THE YEAR, OVER YEAR SALES HAVE INCREASED IN 2024 BY ALMOST, UH, $4 MILLION. THAT'S 17% INCREASE. REALLY IMPRESSIVE, UH, UH, LET ME SEE, UH, STILL GRADUATING. OKAY. WITH, UH, STEEL REPORTING. UH, WE, UH, KNOW AT LEAST 14, 1500 JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED, UH, SINCE INCEPTION OF THE ORGANIZATION. 95% OF THE GRADUATES OPENED A CHECKING ACCOUNT, LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST TIME AT A LOCAL BANK. THIS WAS A GREAT EVENT. IT WAS UP AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND, UH, IF EVER YOU GET A CHANCE TO ATTEND ONE OF THESE, UH, GRADUATION EVENTS, IT'S A SITE TO BEHOLD. SO, UH, FOR WHERE IS A LOCAL FOR, AH, THANK YOU. I COULD NEVER DO THAT. . UH, ALSO YESTERDAY I GOT TO HAVE LUNCH WITH OUR NEW YAVAPAI COUNTY DISTRICT THREE SUPERVISOR, NIKKI CHECK. AND SHE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN AND LEARNING ABOUT OUR SUCH PROJECTS AS OUR ANNEXATION AND OUR HOUSING EMERGENCY RESOLUTION. AND I MUST SAY THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD A COUNTY SUPERVISOR FROM YAVAPAI, UH, HAVE AN INTEREST IN SEDONA. AND I UNDERSTAND SHE'S BEEN SEEING ALL THE OTHER MAYORS THROUGHOUT THE VERDE VALLEY AND IS GOING TO HAVE A GOOD PRESENCE HERE TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES INSTEAD OF JUST YAP BY COUNTY. SO IT'S BEEN A BUSY TWO WEEKS. LET'S CONTINUE ON, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING YES OR NO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A SHORT ANNOUNCEMENT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, OUR 2024 COMMUNITY REPORT IS IN THE MAIL TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO FOLKS SHOULD BE RECEIVING THAT PROBABLY TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY. UM, AND SO LAUREN JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S OUT. UM, AND THEN IT WILL BE FOLLOWED SHORTLY WITH THE, UH, VIDEO OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE CITY AND THAT TYPE OF THING. AND THEN ANDY HAD SOMETHING TO MENTION. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR STAFF IN PUBLIC WORKS. UH, THIS IS KURT AND SANDY'S GROUP, ALONG WITH OUR BICYCLE COORDINATORS, HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING TO UPDATE THE BICYCLE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY DESIGNATION FOR SEDONA. THIS STARTED LAST SUMMER, AND WE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT THE LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BICYCLISTS HAS DETERMINED THAT SEDONAS DESIGNATION AS SILVER LEVEL LEVEL, UH, WILL BE RENEWED. SO WE STAY AT THE SAME LEVEL. THE LEAGUE SAYS, THIS DECISION INVOLVED CAREFUL REVIEW OF OUR APPLICATION AND SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS, AS WELL AS CONSULTATION WITH LOCAL CYCLISTS AND BIKE ADVOCATES. THIS AWARD IS PRESENTED ONLY TO COMMUNITIES WITH STRONG COMMITMENTS TO BICYCLING, AND THEY SAY, WE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT. SO I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT ARIZONA HAS 11 BICYCLE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES. OUT OF THOSE 11, THREE ARE GOLD LEVEL FOUR ARE SILVER, AND FOUR ARE BRONZE LEVEL. UM, THIS, UH, THIS DESIGNATION IS GOOD FOR FOUR YEARS, SO WE'LL BE UP AGAIN FOR RENEWAL IN 2028. GOING FOR THE GOLD, GOING FOR GOLD . AND BY THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE PLENTY MORE. SHE USED PANTS. YOU BET. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THAT OUT. [6. PUBLIC FORUM] NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM SIX, PUBLIC FORUM. I ONLY HAVE ONE CARD. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING, NOT ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. FILL OUT A CARD NOW AND HAND IT TO THE DEPUTY CLERK OVER THERE. UH, SO THIS IS THIS FIRST CARD, OR THE ONLY CARD IS FOR, UH, BILL NEWAN. I'M GONNA STEP UP. YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES. PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. MR. MARIN, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL NUNAN. I LIVE IN SEDONA. UH, YOU'RE MEETING TOMORROW TO CONSIDER AWARDING A CONTRACT TO CATHOLIC CHARITY SERVICES TO ADMINISTER A HOMELESS PROGRAM IN SEDONA. THERE IS NO PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO AWARD ANY CONTRACT TO CATHOLIC CHARITY SERVICES, WHICH IS A TROUBLED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS SCANDAL RIDDEN AND PLAGUED BY FRAUD, EMBEZZLEMENT, AND ALLEGATIONS OF ILLEGAL CONDUCT [00:15:01] TO CITE ONLY A FEW INSTANCES OF ITS TROUBLING BEHAVIOR. JUST LAST MONTH IN MILWAUKEE, $1.7 MILLION WAS REPORTED STOLEN BY CATHOLIC CHARITIES EMPLOYEES THROUGH A FRAUDULENT SCHEME USING FAKE INVOICES FROM FAKE VENDORS IN 2020. IN NEVADA, THE SAME NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION HAD TO REPAY MORE THAN $200,000 AFTER ITS EMPLOYEES FRAUDULENTLY ADMINISTERED COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANTS. IN 2019 IN MINNEAPOLIS, A MANAGER AT CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS SENTENCED TO SIX YEARS IN PRISON FOR EMBEZZLING ABOUT $700,000 THAT WAS INTENDED FOR HOMELESS SERVICES AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE FUNDS. IN 2017, A MANAGER FOR THE CLEVELAND CATHOLIC CHARITIES EMBEZZLED $2 MILLION OF FUNDS. SO I COULD GO ON, BUT I THINK YOU GET THE IDEA THAT THIS IS NOT A WELL RUN ORGANIZATION. UM, AND THE QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING THAT THEY CONTINUE OPERATING WELL IN SAN ANTONIO? EXCUSE ME, IN 2018, AN AUDIT BY AN OUTSIDE ACCOUNTING FIRM SAID THE ACCOUNTING PROBLEMS AT CATHOLIC CHARITIES WERE UNFORGIVABLE AND THE CHAIRMAN OF ANOTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THERE, SO THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS STILL IN BUSINESS. I SHOULD ADD THAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS ALSO EMBROILED IN A NUMBER OF OTHER SCANDALS, INCLUDING AN INVESTIGATION BY THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL INTO ALLEGEDLY ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. AND JUST TODAY, CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS FEATURED IN ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST NEWSPAPERS BECAUSE THAT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IS PROVIDING ADVICE TO CRIMINALS ABOUT HOW TO EVADE LAW ENFORCEMENT. CATHOLIC CHARITIES HAS ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN FACILITATING THE ENTRY OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL MIGRANTS INTO THE COUNTRY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHICH HAS CONTRIBUTED TO A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS ALMOST UNPARALLELED IN AMERICAN HISTORY. I WANNA MAKE CLEAR TO MY COMMENTS ABOUT CATHOLIC CHARITIES REFER ONLY TO THE 5 0 1 C3 ORGANIZATION OF THAT NAME AND ARE NOT MEANT TO CRITICIZE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ITSELF OR CATHOLICS, MANY OF WHOM ARE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS ORGANIZATION. SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO AWARD ITS HOMELESS CONTRACT TOMORROW TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES BECAUSE OF ITS RECORD OF FINANCIAL MALFEASANCE, DISRESPECT FOR THE LAW, AND THE DISREPUTE IT IT BRINGS TO A GREAT RELIGION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. NEWAN. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK NOW? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM, UH, PROCLAMATION RECOGNITIONS OF AWARDS. THAT'S ITEM SEVEN. WE HAVE NONE [8.a. AB 3173 Public Hearing/discussion/possible action regarding approval of a Request for Subdivision (Condominium Conversion) to create 60 separate condominium units (30 duplexes) on approximately 4.5 acres. (Navajo Lofts Project currently under construction). The subject property is zoned Commercial (CO) and is located at 10 Navajo Drive. APN: 408-24-536B.Case Number: PZ24-00004 (SUB) Applicant: MK Company (Keith Holben)] REGULAR BUSINESS, WE HAVE A LOT. SO ITEM EIGHT, A AB 31 73 PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR A SUBDIVISION CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION TO CREATE 60 SEPARATE CONDOMINIUM UNITS, 30 DUPLEXES ON APPROXIMATELY 4.5 ACRES. THIS NAVAJO LOSS LOFTS PROJECT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL CO AND IS LOCATED AT 10 NAVA UH, NAVAJO DRIVE. OKAY, THAT WILL BE, CARRIE'S GOING TO SPEAK. YES, I, AND KEITH, YOU'RE HERE. SO THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I JUST HAVE A BRIEF, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. UM, THERE WE GO. UM, THIS IS THE INFORMATION THE MAYOR JUST READ. THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDO CONVERSION OF A PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. MM-HMM . UM, THE ZONING AND COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGNATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY ARE COMMERCIAL. UM, THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN OR IN THESE IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONE, IS SUBJECT TO THE DENSITY LIMITS OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH REQUIRES THAT PROJECTS THAT GO OVER 12 UNITS PER ACRE, UM, ADDRESS LOCAL HOUSING NEEDS IN SOME WAY. SO WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, IT WAS APPROVED WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, THAT LIMITS, THAT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 90 DAY INITIAL LEASE TERM FOR ALL OF THE UNITS, AND THAT WILL CARRY FORWARD WHETHER THEY ARE FOR RENT OR FOR OWNERSHIP. UM, SO NO, REGARDLESS OF THE OWNERSHIP TYPE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED A COUPLE YEARS AGO WOULD CONTINUE ON. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A QUESTION, UM, THAT HAS COME UP DURING THIS PROCESS. BUT ALL OF THAT WAS REVIEWED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION, AND THAT'S HOW THE, UH, IT'S ABOUT 13.3 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH GOES OVER THE 12. THE STANDARD 12 WAS APPROVED. SO THIS PROPERTY IS, UM, THIS LARGE PROPERTY IS ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF ACRES. THE FIRE STATION IS HERE. WE ARE SITTING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S, UM, JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY HERE. UM, AERIAL MAP, THIS IS THE OLD AERIAL MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT THE LOT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE DEVELOPMENT BEGAN. SO THEY HAVE STARTED BUILDING THE UNITS ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE AND ARE WORKING THEIR WAY SOUTH. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, UM, THAT SHOWS THE 60 TOTAL UNITS, 30 SEPARATE BUILDINGS. SO DUPLEXES, [00:20:01] THE PRIMARY ACCESS IS OFF OF ARIA AND NAVAJO TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST. THERE IS NO VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE EAST, BUT THERE WILL BE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE ACCESS TO THAT. THAT, UM, GOES THROUGH A SHARED USE PATH THAT WILL BE BUILT ALONG THE SOUTH SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE. THERE'S SOME ELEVATIONS OF WHAT THE UNITS WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETE. UM, THIS PROJECT WAS REVIEWED FOR, I'M SORRY, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS IN ARTICLE SEVEN AND EIGHT. I MENTIONED EARLIER THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED UNDER A SEPARATE APPLICATION IN 2022, AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN CONSISTENCY DOESN'T APPLY TO SUBDIVISION AND CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION APPLICATIONS, BUT WAS REVIEWED WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW WENT THROUGH AND WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT. UM, THE APPLICANT COMPLETED THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PROCESS AND THE CITY STAFFED ALL OF THE REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTIFICATION WITH POSTINGS IN THE PAPER AND ON THE PROPERTY AND MAILINGS TO NEIGHBORS. I BELIEVE THE ONLY COMMENT THAT WE GOT WAS RECEIVED DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEW OF THE PROJECT THAT JUST WAS OBJECTING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THESE UNITS, WHICH BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE NOT ALLOWED. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, AND SO BACK IN DECEMBER, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, AND I AM AVAILABLE. HI, KEITH. HAVE A SEAT THERE. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. OKAY. BRIAN, YOU WANNA START THE QUESTIONS? SURE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. HI THERE. UM, CAN YOU JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S CHANGED? WHAT PRECIPITATED YOUR DESIRE NOW TO HAVE THIS PLAT UH, UH, APPROVAL TO, UH, BE ABLE TO SELL AS OPPOSED TO BEING, YOU KNOW, STRICTLY RENTAL FOCUSED? YES. UM, UH, MAYOR JAO AND, UH, COUNSEL, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE CASE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO WE'D ACTUALLY ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCESS PLAID ON THE PROPERTY. THE REASON WE DIDN'T DO IT ALONG WITH THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, IT WAS JUST A FUNCTION OF TIMING AND TRYING TO GET TO CONSTRUCTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT, UH, MIX YOU'D LIKE TO LAND ON OF THE 60 UNITS RENTAL VERSUS SALE? NOT AT THIS TIME. WE DON'T, UM, WE DO HAVE 10 UNITS OR FIVE DUPLEXES UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME, AND OUR INTENT ON THOSE IS THOSE WILL BE OFFERED FOR SALE. UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA KIND OF WEIGH THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE INTEREST BETWEEN PURCHASING AND RENTING. I WILL TELL YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T OFFER 'EM FOR SALE AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE RECEIVED, UM, A LOT OF INTEREST FOR, FROM, UH, ORDERS FROM, UM, LOCAL COMMUNITY RESIDENTS. I'M SORRY, YOU SAID THAT THEY ARE OFFERED RIGHT NOW, OR THEY'RE NOT? THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OFFERED FOR SALE AT THIS TIME. THEY, THEY CAN'T BY LAW. OH. WHAT'S THE TRIGGER FOR WHEN THEY CAN BE? SO A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS WE WOULD NEED A FINAL PLAT APPROVED BY THE COUNSEL AND RECORDED, UM, THERE'S SOME STIPULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FOR THAT. UM, ONE OF THOSE STIPULATIONS IS TO COMPLETE THE CIVIL OR THE COMMUNITY AREA IMPROVEMENTS. SECONDLY IS WE NEED A ARIZONA PUBLIC REPORT ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE. UM, AND THAT KINDA WORKS IN OUR FAVOR AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S A DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT TO ALL PURCHASERS. AND WITHIN THAT DISCLOSURE IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO INCLUDE ALL MATTERS OF RECORD. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE SHORT TERM RENTAL RESTRICTION. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH. SO I'M GONNA ADJUST THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. AND THAT'S, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT IS THAT YOU BASICALLY HAVE SOME FORM OF A CC NR THAT WOULD TELL BUYERS, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEIR UNIT AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. SO I SAW IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THERE WERE TO BE CCNRS. IS THIS CORRECT? YES. THERE, THERE, THERE ARE PROPOSED CCNRS FOR THE PROJECT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO, AND THE CCS, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE MAY NOT BE USED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS. THAT IS CORRECT. UM, AND WHAT'S THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? WHAT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM BUYING A UNIT AND THEN GOING AHEAD AND SHORT TERM RENTING IT? SO I WOULD, UM, I'D PROBABLY LET THE, UM, COUNSEL FOR THE CITY, MR. CHRISTENSEN, UH, ADDRESS THAT, UM, AS FAR AS ENFORCEABILITY FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT. YEAH, I I, I FIGURED WE'D GET OVER TO HIM, BUT, YOU KNOW. SURE. SO, SO I, I CAN JUST GIVE YOU MY FEEDBACK. SO, UM, THE ENFORCEABILITY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER STANDPOINT IS THE SAME, [00:25:01] WHETHER IT'S A FOUR LEASE OR FOR SALE PRODUCT. UM, IN FACT, WITH THE FOR SALE PRODUCT, WE HAVE MORE ENFORCEABILITY BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER LAYER WITH THE COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS. SECONDLY, UM, AS A REFERRED TO THE A ARIZONA PUBLIC REPORT, AND THAT'S A DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT AGAIN, WHEN, UM, IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW THAT THERE IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL RESTRICTION THAT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY. SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT BY LAW IS EDUCATION DISCLOSURE OF THE, OF THE CONDITIONS WHICH AFFECT A PURCHASER'S DECISION TO BUY A PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD FORETELL TO A POTENTIAL PURCHASER IF THEY HAD ANY IDEAS THAT THEY WANTED TO, UH, ENGAGE IN SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT THEY'RE RESTRICTED FROM IT. FROM OUR STANDPOINT AND, AND OUR HISTORY AND THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS AND NO, NO DESIRE TO BE. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IT ANSWERS IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. CITY ATTORNEY MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL ALWAYS BE ENFORCEABLE. SO THE, THIS, THAT TERM, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL TERM SURVIVES THE TERMINATION OF IT. AND SO IF THE CCNRS, THE HOA, THE IN THIS STATES, THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANNA ENFORCE IT ANYMORE, THE CITY COULD SUE, UH, FOR SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE IN THE SUPERIOR COURT. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'D BE FACING. THERE'D ALSO BE OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, PERHAPS DENY THEIR, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT. OKAY. THAT'S THE POINT THAT I REALLY ALSO WANTED TO, TO GET ACROSS, IS THAT IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW, THEY NEED TO APPLY FOR THIS PERMIT. CORRECT. AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS IN A PERMITTABLE PLACE. I'M ASSUMING WE'RE ALSO OPTIMISTIC, AS YOU KNOW, FROM OUR LEGISLATIVE, UM, PROPOSALS THAT WE CAN, UH, REGAIN SOME SHORT-TERM RENTAL CONTROL IN THE NEXT, IF NOT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE, LONG BEFORE THIS WOULD BECOME A PROBLEM IN THIS PROPERTY. YEAH. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS THE CITY TO DENY PERMITTING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IF WE KNOW IT'S IN A AREA WHERE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE ABOUT NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. I JUST WANNA GET THAT ONTO THE RECORD BASED ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MELISSA. DEREK, UH, FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO KURT. UM, COULD WE DENY A PERMIT IF IT'S JUST IN CCNRS? NO. SO IT'D BE BASED ON THE PROVISION OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE DON'T ENFORCE PRIVATE CC ANDRS. OKAY. UM, AND THEN TO, UH, THE APPLICANT, SO THERE WILL BE A PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR A CONDOMINIUM OWNER'S ASSOCIATION? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. AND YOU WILL BE COLLECTING ASSESSMENTS TO FUND THE ASSOCIATION, PRESUMABLY? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. OKAY. WITHOUT MONEY TO ENFORCE THE RESTRICTIONS IF THE CITY DOESN'T STEP IN AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE ASSOCIATION'S GONNA BE IN A POSITION TO DO SO, UH, WHICH IT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT SOME MONEY. SO THAT'S, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK MAYOR. UH, KEITH, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THERE'S GONNA BE AN ONSITE MA PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL AT THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, COUNSELOR? YES. YES, WE DO. SO IF SOMEONE WAS ENGAGING IN SHORT TERM RENTALS, YOU'D WOULD ALSO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT? VERY, VERY LIKELY, YES. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND? SO IF THEY ALL GO AT SOME POINT IN TIME, ALL GO CONDO OR CO-OP, YOU WOULD NO LONGER HAVE SOMEBODY ON SITE. WOULD THAT BE A FAIR, UH, STATEMENT? UM, MAYOR JAO, UH, WHERE THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY? I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY, JUST BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S COMMUNITY AMENITIES THERE. THOSE NEED TO BE MAINTAINED AND MANAGED. SO THERE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE TO BE A THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WOULD BE, HAVE A PRESENCE ON A REGULAR BASIS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS BEING MAINTAINED AND CONDUCTED PER CCNRS AND PER COMMUNITY GUIDELINES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. KATHY, THE, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL RESTRICTION, I BELIEVE IS IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS. DOES THAT CHANGE BASED ON, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT BEING A RENTAL PROPERTY OR CONDOS? NO. MAY COUNSEL, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE POTENTIAL ABILITY OF THIS PROJECT TO BECOME CONDOMINIUMIZED WAS ENVISIONED IN THE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHETHER IT'S, UH, LONG TERM, LONG TERM LEASE OR TURNED INTO SALES. OKAY. SO THE 30 YEARS IS A 30 YEARS , AND [00:30:01] I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, IT WOULD NOT HAVE QUALIFIED WAS 54 UNITS. I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOWED, BUT WE WENT TO 60 BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, AGREEMENT. IS THAT, WAS THAT THE BASIS OF THE CORRECT, THE EXCEPTION. THEY COULD HAVE BUILT INCREASED DENSITY 54 CONDO UNITS, UM, AND NONE OF THEM WOULD'VE HAD ANY TYPE OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL RESTRICTION. WAS PART OF, AND THIS MIGHT GO BACK TO, TO CARRIE, UH, WAS PART OF THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF, OF, UM, THIS PROJECT WHY WE WANTED TO GIVE A HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE WE, IT WAS GONNA BE A RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THEREFORE WE WERE TRYING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES. AND WHEN LONG THE SHORT TERM RENTAL RESTRICTION, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT THAT THE RENTAL PROPERTIES WERE VERY ATTRACTIVE TO THE CITY AT THE TIME. AND NOW THE, THE CONVERSION, I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT THIS POSSIBLY CHANGES. I THINK THE HOUSING UNITS WERE ATTRACTIVE. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND SO HAVING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT IN AN AREA THAT COULD BE LODGING, BUT FOR YEARS WE ANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW CAN I CHANGE THIS PROPERTY TO A LODGING PROJECT. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD COME IN WITH PROPOSALS FOR RETAIL. AND SO WHEN THERE WAS THE POTENTIAL OF HOUSING, AND AGAIN, AS KURT SAID, THE POTENTIAL FOR A CONDO CONVERSION WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED. BUT JUST HOUSING IN GENERAL AT, UM, IN UNITS THAT WE COULD GET THE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT RENTAL OR OWNERSHIP WAS ATTRACTIVE WHEN SAYING THAT THE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PAPERWORK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR CONDO CONVERSION AT SOME POINT, BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD GO RIGHT TO CONDO CONVERSION BEFORE BEING RENTAL PROPERTIES. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, CARRIE, WHEN, IF THAT WAS DISCUSSED, ANY KIND OF EXPECTATION AROUND THAT? UH, NO. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT FOR, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROJECT. UM, WE BASED THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS FOR THE PIN LOFTS PROJECT, WHICH DOES INCLUDE A PROHIBITION ON CONDO CONVERSION. AND SO THIS WAS NOT INCLUDED THAT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT A LOT OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS ARE THE SAME. OKAY. UH, SWITCHING, UM, SUBJECTS, THE SHARED USE PATH, WHAT, WHAT STAGE? AND I HAD, I ASKED A QUESTION TO ANDY ABOUT THAT TOO. I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF, AND HOW FAR ALONG IS THAT? AND I KNOW IT HAS TO BE, IT GETS, UM, APPROVED BY THE CITY AND THEN YOU CONSTRUCT IT, AND I THINK IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CITY, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE, AT WHAT POINT DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY FEELS IS, REFLECTS WHAT THE CITY WANTED TO SEE THERE? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? I THINK ANDY'S THE BEST FOR THAT ONE. RIGHT? WELL, WELL, I THINK CARRIE, THAT'S BEEN PERMITTED, RIGHT? SO IT'D BE PART OF THE CURRENT PERMIT PLAN SET. AM I, I'D HAVE TO CHECK. I KNOW THAT IT'S PART OF THE PROJECT, SO IT NEEDS TO BE, WE'VE PERMITTED A BRIDGE TO GO OVER THE WASH AT THE EASTERN END HERE, BUT KEITH MIGHT HAVE MORE DETAILS ON WHAT STAGE OF CONSTRUCTION IT'S IN. YES. KALER BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. YES. THE, UH, MULTI-USE RAIL WITH THE SHARED USED RAIL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE LARGEST KIND OF SINGLE COMPONENT OF THAT IS THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT IS ACTUALLY IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. GRADING IS BEING CONDUCTED ON THE SITE, INCLUDING THE MULTI-USE TRAIL. ADDITIONALLY, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRED THE DEDICATION OF LAND, UM, FROM MY COMPANY FOR THAT PATH. AND THAT HAS BEEN MADE AS WELL. SO WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. GOOD. OKAY. MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, UH, TO MY SATISFACTION, SO I DON'T NEED TO REHASH THEM. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE'S ANY, UH, COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC NOW IS A TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. UH, MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? NO, MAYOR. WE DO NOT. OKAY. THIS IS THE FINAL OPPORTUNITY. SEEING NO INTEREST. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO TO COMMENTS. UH, BRIAN, DO YOU WANNA STOP WITH COMMENTS, IF ANY? ONLY THAT, UH, I SHARE THE SAME MINDSET AS COUNSELOR KINSELLA AND WHERE YOU WERE COMING FROM ON YOUR QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S IT, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MELISSA. GARRETT, PETE? NO. KATHY? YES. . PETE, THANKS. UH, THIS IS A HARD ONE BECAUSE I MEAN, I WAS EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT AND, AND, AND KEITH, THE, THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH YOU AND BEEN, YOU KNOW, VERY HAPPY WITH THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD, AND THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROJECTS YOU HAVE BROUGHT HERE TO SEDONA. BUT I, I KNOW THAT I WAS EXCITED ABOUT [00:35:01] THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LACK OF RENTAL HOUSING AVAILABLE, AND I THINK IT'S HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH PURCHASING THEN MAYBE SOME OF OUR WORKING FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE, EVEN IN A ROOMMATE SITUATION THAT WOULD BE SHARING A RENTAL PROPERTY. I'M, I AM, I'M SAD TO SEE THIS GO AND NOT BE AVAILABLE AS A RENTAL PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S A LOSS. I THINK IT'S A LOSS FOR THE CITY. I THINK IT'S A LOSS FOR THE WORKING POPULATION. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO. 'CAUSE IT WASN'T, I WISH FOR, YOU KNOW, HINDSIGHT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I WISH IT WAS SIMILAR TO OPINION LOSS WHERE THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE, UH, RESTRICTING THE CONDO CONVERSION. BUT I, I'M SORRY TO SEE IT GO. I UNDERSTAND. I THINK I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY YOU WANNA DO THAT. I GET IT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MARKET CHANGES AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE. SO, BUT IT JUST, WHEN THE STATE THAT ON THE RECORD, GOOD. SO KEITH, I TOO SHARE THAT CONCERN OF COUNCILOR KINSELLA. UH, BUT I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR LONG-TERM RENTALS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WHAT THE PRICE POINT WOULD'VE BEEN, BUT, UH, WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO PURCHASE. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE CAN'T PURCHASE HERE BECAUSE HOUSES ARE BEING, UH, GRABBED UP FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN, IN SOME INSTANCES. SO, UH, IF YOU CAN'T FILL ONE MARKET, YOU WILL BE FILLING ANOTHER. AND THAT IS IMPORTANT. AND I'M SURE, UH, THE QUALITY WILL BE JUST, JUST FINE FOR PEOPLE. SO, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. SO, UH, THAT WAS MY CONCERN. UH, AS FAR AS THE SHARED USE PATH, I KNOW THAT THAT HAS TO MEET THE STANDARDS. I KNOW THAT, UH, STAFF WILL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT. IT WILL MATCH ALL THE OTHER SHARED USE PATHS IN SOME WAY, AT LEAST, MAYBE NOT IN ACTUAL SUBSTANCE, BUT IN WIDTH AND DESIGN, UH, TO SOME DEGREE. RIGHT. GO AHEAD, ANDY. I, I SHOULD PROBABLY MENTION TOO THAT HANUKAH ON THE PUBLIC WORKS END OF OUR STAFF HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THAT ELEMENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH PERMITTING AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT AND THAT PART OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MATCHES WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PUBLIC PROJECTS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ANDY. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SURE. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT AS SET FORTH IN CASE NUMBER PZ 24 DASH 0 0 0 0 4 SUB NAVAJO LOFT CONDOMINIUM PLAT BASED ON COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS OF LDC SECTION 8.3 AND 8.5, AND SATISFACTION OF THE SUBDIVISION FINDINGS AND APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT, WHICH STAFF REPORT IS HEREBY ADOPTED AS THE FINDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SECOND. OKAY. CAN, UH, THAT'S SECOND OF A, UH, PETE FERMAN. OKAY. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED? OKAY. SIX ONE. OKAY. FIVE ONE. FIVE ONE. FIVE ONE. OH, I'M SORRY. 'CAUSE I, I'M JUST NOT USED TO HER NOT BEING HERE. . SORRY, HOLLY. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. FIVE ONE, WE'LL MOVE ON. ITEM [8.b. AB 3163 Discussion/possible action regarding adoption of a Debt Management Policy for the City of Sedona.] B, AB 31 63. DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ADOPTION OF A DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA. AND THANK YOU, KEITH FOR COMING IN. HI, BARBARA. HI Y'ALL. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO JOIN YOU TONIGHT REMOTELY. I'M IN WASHINGTON, DC UM, GETTING LEGISLATIVE UPDATES FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND ATTENDING, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS. I'LL BE BACK ON THURSDAY. UM, THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY JUST REPLACING OUR EXISTING DEBT POLICY, WHICH WAS WRITTEN IN 2017. UM, JUST UPDATING IT WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CURRENT INFORMATION. UM, DISCUSSING THE MEANS THAT THE CITY HAS TO ISSUE DEBT, WHAT KINDS OF DEBT WE CAN ISSUE. UM, AND JUST KIND OF SETTING OUT THE PARAMETERS FOR WHEN STAFF MAKES A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEBT, AND GIVING COUNCILS AND DEFINITIONS AROUND DEBT AND HOW IT ALL WORKS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, UM, AS WE'RE INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S IT. YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. . OKAY. AND MARY, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD A WHOLE SERIES OF POLICY UPDATES. THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING. UM, [00:40:01] SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A, A BIG INTERNAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN UPDATING POLICIES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH OUR FINANCES. OKAY. THANK YOU, PETE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION. YEP. THANK YOU MAYOR. BARBARA, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE NEW FORMAT. I ACTUALLY FIND IT TO BE A MUCH READ, EASIER TO READ DOCUMENT. SOME OF THE CHARTS IN THERE ARE, ARE GOOD. AND SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I NEED TO ASK ON THE RECORD THE OBVIOUS QUESTION. HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE IT WASN'T REALLY REDLINED AT ALL? NO, NOT REALLY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO READ AND, UM, AND SORT OF FOLLOW BECAUSE I THINK IT, UM, IT WAS A GOOD POLICY. THERE'S NO QUESTION. AND I, AND I HAVE NO, NOTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. I JUST FELT LIKE IT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR AND, UH, WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT'S MORE UNDERSTANDABLE TO SOMEONE WHO ISN'T IN THIS SORT OF DEBT WORLD ALL THE TIME, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MOST FINANCE PEOPLE. WE DON'T ISSUE DEBT AS CITIES ON JUST, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY BASIS OR EVEN A YEARLY BASIS MOST OF THE TIME. SO HAVING A POLICY THAT WAS WRITTEN MORE IN LAY TERMS FELT MORE APPROPRIATE TO ME, UM, GIVEN THAT DEBT'S REALLY COMPLICATED, BUT THE REALITY, WHEN YOU BOIL IT DOWN, IT'S FAIRLY SIMPLE. GOOD. SO NO, NO POLICY CHANGES IN ANY WAY, JUST FORMATTING CHANGES? NO, IT'S REALLY, REALLY JUST FORMATTING. UM, I DON'T THINK I, I CHANGED ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE AT ALL. OKAY. UPDATED OUR, UH, DEBT RATING FOR OUR, UM, EXCISE TAX BACK DEBT, WHICH IS THE ONLY DEBT WE HAVE. IT IS A DOUBLE A MINUS, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY GOOD RATING FOR REVENUE, DEBT. UM, AND THEN ADDED THE, THE TABLES AND YEP. CHARTS. THANK YOU, BARBARA. DEREK, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? KATHY? PETE ASKED MY QUESTION. THANKS, PETE. WOW. OKAY. MELISSA, NOTHING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY UH, COMMENTS DOWN THE, WE'LL GO DOWN THE SAME WAY. NO COMMENT. NO NOTHING. ALRIGHT. CAN I HAVE A, A MOTION? SURE. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 28TH, 2025. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY KATHY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH THOUGH. THANK YOU BARBARA. SAFE TRAVEL WHEN YOU COME HOME. WE HAVE SNOW HERE, BY THE WAY. I KNOW, I'M REALLY A LITTLE JEALOUS THAT I MISSED IT. , RIGHT? YOU MOVED TO ARIZONA FOR THE SNOW, RIGHT? RIGHT. EXACTLY. OKAY, I [8.c. AB 3177 Discussion/possible action regarding approval of a Resolution awarding RFI No. 2022-23-007, Fiber Optic Network Partnership, to Allo Communications and to endorse Allo Communications as Sedona’s preferred ISP for purposes of the BEAD subgrantee application process.] ITEM C, AB 31 77. DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AWARDING, UH, RFI NUMBER 2022 DASH 23 DASH 0 0 7, FIBER OPTIC NETWORK PARTNERSHIP TO ALLO COMMUNICATIONS, AND TO ENDORSE ALLO COMMUNICATIONS AS SEDONAS PREFERRED ISP FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BEAD, UH, SUB-GRANTEE APPLICATION PROCESS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, CHUCK. HOW ARE YOU? OH, NOT TOO BAD. GOOD. UM, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THE, UH, CITY PUT TOGETHER, UH, THE BROADBAND, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, BACK IN, UH, 2023 TO PURSUE, UH, INFORMATION REGARDING PAR POSSIBLE PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, AN ISP, UH, REGARDING USING ARPA FUNDS. SEVEN IS ISPS RESPONDED. WE REVIEWED ALL THOSE AND, UH, THEN WE PICKED A SUBSET. AND FROM THERE WE, UM, ASKED FURTHER QUESTIONS, DEEPER QUESTIONS, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE? WHAT WOULD BE THE CITY'S COSTS, UM, THEIR FINANCIALS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND AFTER THAT, UH, FURTHER INTERVIEWS, WE NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO, UH, RESPONDENTS, UH, ALOE AND . AND THROUGH THE, THE ENTIRE SOLICITATION PROCESS, UM, WE MORE OR LESS, UH, DISCOVERED THAT IF WE USE THE ARPA FUNDS, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE, LOOKED LIKE $16 MILLION, UH, TOWARD THE PROJECT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BEAD WAS DEVELOPING AND WE START, WE DECIDED THAT WAS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO PURSUE BEAD 'CAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE [00:45:01] NO CONTRIBUTIONS. AND SO RATHER THAN DIRECTLY CONTRACTING WITH THE FIRM, THE COMMITTEE DETERMINED IT WOULD BE IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE THE TOP EVALUATED FIRM, UH, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PURSUING BEAD AWARD THROUGH THE STATE'S APPLICATION PROCESS. THE STATE ALLOCATES POINTS TO APPLICANTS WHO HAVE SECURED COMM COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY ARE APPLYING FOR AWARD AFTER REVIEW OF ALL RESPONSE, BROADBAND COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDED, THE CITY COUNCIL AWARD, THE RFI, IN LETTER OF RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT ALLO COMMUNICATIONS. ALLO COMMUNICATIONS IS AN EXCELLENT FIT FOR THE CITY. OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR CHUCK. DEREK. PETE? YEP. KATHY? NO, BRIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. CHUCK, CAN YOU JUST SHARE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BENEFIT WHO PARTICIPATED AS PART OF THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE? UH, JAMES CURRY, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE? UM, IAN AS WELL AS KURT. AND, UH, WE HAD A CONSULTANT, DOUG DAWSON. OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS THERE ANY STATE, STATE MANDATED PROCESS THAT HAD TO BE FOLLOWED AS FAR AS THIS EVALUATION PROCESS WHERE IT REALLY WAS TO THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE HOW BEST TO EVALUATE AND, AND CHOOSE THE WINNER? MAYOR AND COUNSEL? I CAN ANSWER THAT. AND THERE WAS NO STATE MANDATED PROCESS THERE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE BEST PRACTICES OF PRO UH, PROCUREMENT RULES AND SOME LEGAL PROCUREMENT RULES. BUT THOSE WERE FOR VERY BASIC. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TRUCTURE THIS STRUCTURE, THIS BASED ON ADVICE FROM OUR CONSULTANT, UH, DOUG DAWSON PRIMARILY. UM, AND THEN IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, THE AFTER, AFTER THE DECISION WAS MADE, IT'S CHANGED AS THE BEAD PROGRAM HAS EVOLVED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR ALYSSA. SO JUST, JUST FOR GENERAL AWARENESS, UM, TO THE PUBLIC, IF THIS IS APPROVED, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE BEAT FUNDING, NOR DOES IT MEAN THAT WE WILL GET BEAT FUNDING. IS THAT CORRECT OR INCORRECT? IT LOOKS VERY GOOD THAT WE'LL GET BEAT FUNDING. UH, AT ONE POINT EVERY PASSING WAS, UH, UM, CHALLENGED BY A COMPETITOR AND WE SUCCESSFULLY REBUTTED 5,881 CHALLENGES, WHICH IS MOST PASSINGS AND PASSING IS BOTH HOUSES AND BUSINESSES. UH, SO IT LOOKS VERY GOOD, UH, THAT WILL GET B FUNNY. AND WHEN WOULD THIS TAKE PLACE? THE AWARDING OF BE NOT THE WHOLE, WELL, UH, THE LAST TIMELINE, UM, THEY WERE GONNA LOOK AT, UH, SUBMITTING TO THE NTIA, UH, THAT'S A FEDERAL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THEIR, THEIR SUBMISSIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH FOR THEIR APPROVAL IN AUGUST. UM, THE TOTAL PROJECT, THEY'RE TALKING, UH, 2030 COMPLETION BY, UH, THEY DID JUST PUSH OUT A TIMELINE THIS WEEKEND OF THE ROUND ONE PHASE BY ANOTHER MONTH. SO IT, IT'S KIND OF A EVOLVING TIMELINE. THANK YOU, CHUCK , ALL YOUR ANSWERS SOLVED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST THINK FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, CAN YOU DO GIVE US SOME TYPE OF HIGH LEVEL, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT ULTIMATELY, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH EVERY STEP, WHAT WE WILL BE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY? UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING FIBER TO EVERY PASSING INTO THOSE LOCAL AREAS. UH, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE AN AFFORDABLE, UM, OPTION AND BRING COMPETITION AS FAR AS, UH, ISPS GO RATHER THAN LET ONE PERSON, YOU KNOW, RUN THE WHOLE BOAT. AND IF I REMEMBER THE PROCESS, UH, OR THE DESIRES OF THE DISCUSSION YEARS AGO WHEN YOU SAID BRING FIBER, THAT WOULD BE BRINGING FIBER DIRECTLY TO EACH HOME AS A, WHAT THEY CALL A HOME RUN TO EACH HOME. UH, THE HOPES ARE THEY BRING IT RIGHT TO THE HOME, BUT AS LONG AS THEY BRING IT RIGHT UP TO THE HOME AND CABLE FROM THERE, THAT WOULD BE COPPER CABLE, BUT HOPEFULLY FIBER TO THE HOME. OKAY. THAT WOULD, AND I KNOW BACK EAST, I JUST LEFT A YEAR AFTER THE, I HAD FIBER OPTIC TO THE HOME AND IT WAS PHENOMENAL. YEAH. SO, UM, BUT, OKAY. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO TO A MOTION? OKAY. CAN, CAN I HAVE A MOTION THEN PLEASE? SURE. I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 0 3 0 3 AWARDING [00:50:01] RFI NUMBER 2 0 2 2 DASH 23 DASH 0 0 7. FIBER OPTIC NETWORK PARTNERSHIP TO ALLO COMMUNICATIONS CONDITIONED UPON ALLO COMMUNICATIONS SELECTION BY THE STATE FOR ONE OR MORE B SUBGRANTS FOR THE SEDONA PROJECT AREAS, AND TO ENDORSE ALLO COMMUNICATIONS AS SEDONAS PREFERRED ISP FOR PURPOSES OF THE BEAD SUB GUARANTEE SUBGRANT, SORRY, APPLICATION PROCESS. OKAY. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ARE UNANIMOUS FOR WHO WE HAVE HERE. OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. [8.d. AB 3165 Discussion/possible action regarding the approval of a Resolution adopting the 2023 Yavapai County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan.] ITEM D, AB 31 65. DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE 2023 YAVAPAI COUNTY MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. THAT WOULD BE OUR POLICE CHIEF CHIEF. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNSELORS. SO, UM, THIS PLAN IS TO, UH, RE-APPROVE A MITIGATION PLAN SO THAT WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS SHOULD WE HAVE, UM, AN EMERGENCY DISASTER THAT WE'RE ELIGIBLE BY READOPTING THE PLAN, WHICH HAPPENS ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS. UM, THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE LATE AS AS, UM, I SHOWED THAT IT WAS COMPLETE IN 2023 AND THEN FEMA APPROVED IT LATE IN 2024. SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEING BROUGHT NOW. UM, SO IT'S READOPTING THE, UM, YAVAPAI COUNTY MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO COVER. UM, I'M HAPPY TO. OKAY. JUST THE SAME QUESTION AS WE HAD BEFORE. SO IS ANYTHING, IT'S THE 2023 PLAN. SO HAS ANYTHING CHANGED AS FAR AS WHEN I SPOKE TO ASHLEY WITH THE AVA PI COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? NO, IT'S JUST READOPTING. THERE WAS SOME, UM, MINOR CHANGES, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE SAME THING OF WHAT IT COVERS. BY HAVING THIS PLAN, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE, WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL. UM, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT IN DECEMBER WE HAD AN IEGA THAT WE CAME FORTH WITH, WHICH WAS MORE TO HELP WITH, UM, OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND OURS. SHOULD WE ASK FOR OTHERS' ASSISTANCE THAT THEN, UM, WE WOULD HAVE FUNDING AND, AND ASSIST EACH OTHER. SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S A FIVE YEAR, UH, RE-UP. SO WE'RE JUST IN, IN THAT TIMEFRAME RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE, UM, RENEWING CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS. THANK YOU PETE. NO QUESTIONS. DEREK? MELISSA? YEAH, I DO. ALRIGHT, GO FOR IT. SO, UM, I WAS ON HOLIDAY. I CAME BACK AND I HAD THIS ENORMOUS DOCUMENT I HAD TO READ. SO I READ EVERYTHING. AND THIS IS A CLERICAL NOTATION ACTUALLY. IT REFERS TO WITHIN THE DOCUMENTATION, IT REFERS TO THE COMMUNITY SEDONAS COMMUNITY PLAN OF 2014, SHOULD THAT NOT BE 2024 SINCE WE'VE ADOPTED A NEW COMMUNITY PLAN? YEAH, I I ACTUALLY, I COULD TALK TO ASHLEY ABOUT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S JUST A, A REVISION THAT THEY CAN DO ON THEIR PART OR WHAT IT MIGHT NEED FROM US, UM, SINCE WE DID REDO OURS. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. THAT WAS A VERY LONG DOCUMENT. REALLY GOOD. YEAH, I'M, I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE IT WAS A TIMING ISSUE SINCE THEY COMPLETED THE TEXT TO THE DOCUMENT IN 2023. AND WAIT, WE'RE WAITING FOR FEMA'S REVIEW AND THE COUNCIL ADOPTED OUR PLAN IN, UM, WAS IT FEBRUARY OF 24, I THINK, OR MARCH. YEAH. SO JUST A SLIGHT TIMING ISSUE. BUT IF THEY CAN CORRECT THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH. YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST THAT GIVEN THAT WE'RE APPROVING THIS UNTIL IN 25, IT'D BE NICE IF THAT REFLECTED OUR COMMUNITY PLAN OF 24. I CAN CERTAINLY ASK. YOU KNOW, I, I, LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE, THEY STARTED THIS IN 2023, WHICH WAS THE FIVE YEAR FEMA THEN APPROVED AT THE END OF 2024. SO, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS CAN TAKE LONG, BUT I, I WILL ASK. THANK YOU, MAYOR. HI, CHIEF. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE LIKE YOU DID, COUNSELOR. YOU JUST HAVE TO SHOW US SOMETHING. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU. UM, AND I DIDN'T, AND THEN I GOT INTO THE EDITED FOR SEDONA VERSION. I'M LIKE, HEY, THIS READS JUST LIKE THE OTHER, LIKE THIS ISN'T WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. UM, CAN YOU HELP ME JUST UNDERSTAND LIKE, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY MAKE USE OF THIS? LIKE, I KEPT, AS I'M, AS I CONTINUED TO READ THROUGH THIS, I WAS JUST LIKE, WHAT, WHAT GOOD IS THIS ACTUALLY? I MEAN, YOU STARTED OUT BY SAYING, OH YEAH, FEMA REQUIRES IT. [00:55:01] OKAY, WHEN WOULD YOU, WHEN WOULD YOU EVER ACTUALLY USE THIS? I'M JUST CURIOUS. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME PERSONALLY 'CAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR THING. RIGHT? I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE DOING THIS FOR FEMA, I GET IT. BUT LIKE, WHEN, WHEN WILL WE ACTUALLY USE THIS? TYPICALLY YOU USE IT, UM, WHEN HAZARDS OCCUR THAT REACH A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT GO OUTSIDE STATE FUNDING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO THEN TAP INTO FEDERAL FUNDING. AND IT USUALLY CAN HAPPEN WITH HAZARDS SUCH AS LIKE EARTHQUAKE, FLOODS, LANDSLIDES, MUDSLIDES, SEVERE WIND, WILD WILDFIRE, WILDFIRES, WINTER STORMS. SO A LOT OF THOSE. AND THEN A LOT OF IT COMES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE BIGGER DISASTERS AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO, UM, GET MONEY BOTH STATE AND FEDERALLY, THIS HELPS YOU BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND ASSISTANCE BECAUSE WE'VE SAID WE'VE EVALUATED THE COMMUNITY FOR ITS RISKS FOR THIS STUFF. PRETTY MUCH THAT WE'VE ADOPTED THE PLAN THAT ENCOMPASSES YAVAPAI COUNTY AND THE STATE OF ARIZONA. SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, BIAS ADOPTING THIS PLAN, IT MAKES US ELIGIBLE FOR IT BY ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT THEY'VE PUT FORTH AS HAZARDS MM-HMM . AND THEN HOW TO MITIGATE AND, UM, PRETTY MUCH WHAT OUR PLAN ALSO TALKS ABOUT. UM, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. THIS JUST AGAIN, JUST ALLOWS US TO ACCESS ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SHOULD WE NEED THAT AS A COMMUNITY. YOU JUST SAID OUR PLAN, OUR PLAN WHAT? OUR PLAN THAT WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN MM-HMM . SO WHEN WE PUT THAT TOGETHER, WE ALSO USE SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN WHAT WE SAID THAT WE WOULD DO, SHOULD WE HAVE DISASTERS. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE ALL CREATE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL PLANS. THEN COUNTY YOU HAVE A PLAN STATE AND THEN FEDERAL. SO YOU'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING EACH OTHER'S PLANS AND ADOPTING THEM. BUT IF WE ACTUALLY HAD A REAL WILDFIRE SERIOUS, LIKE, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU'RE GOING FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT. NO. THIS ALLOWS US WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING TO TAP INTO OTHER RESOURCES. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANKS FOR HUMORING ME ON THOSE QUESTIONS. 'CAUSE IT, WELL HOPEFULLY IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE FULL PICTURE. IT'S NOT THE WHOLE THING. IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA DO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. OF COURSE. ANNETTE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? OH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT THAT, UM, I KNOW JURISDICTIONS ALSO USE THESE DOCUMENTS PROACTIVELY TO APPLY FOR FEDERAL GRANTS. SO IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO UPGRADE A PARTICULAR SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS HAZARDS, UM, THEN THEY MAKE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND FIX WHATEVER IT IS. UM, AND THEN I THINK IT ALSO HELPS US WITH OUR NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROTECTION PROGRAM, UM, QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE THESE PROCESSES AS WELL THROUGH FEMA. 'CAUSE THAT'S ALSO ADMINISTERED BY FEMA. SO IT IS A USEFUL DOCUMENT, BUT IT IS NOT THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN THAT YOU ARE PROBABLY THINKING OF IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO. IT'S, AND THANK YOU, UM, ANNETTE THAT IS CORRECT. WE, IT DOES ALLOW US TO ALSO APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING. THAT'S ANOTHER THANK YOU CHIEF. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SORRY? UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 0 4 0 4 ADOPTING THE 2023 YAVAPAI COUNTY MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. ZERO. OKAY. YOU GONNA STICK AROUND A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR US CHIEF ? I AM. AND ALSO, WHILE YOU'RE IN BETWEEN, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE KUDOS FOR AS FAR AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, AND THE SUPPORT THEY PROVIDED ON THAT SPEED ADJUSTMENT. UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE CONVEY THOSE TO THEM. ABSOLUTELY WILL. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. [8.e. AB 3182 Discussion/possible action regarding 1) Approval of acceptance of the FY25 Anti-Human Trafficking Grant awarded to the Police Department in the amount of $76,800, and 2) Approve the Agreement between the Sedona Police Department and the State of Arizona through the Arizona Department of Public Safety (AZDPS) as the administrator of the grant funds.] OKAY. ITEM E, RIGHT? WE'RE UP TO E. YES. OKAY. AB 31 50, UH, 31 82. DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ONE APPROVAL OF ACCEPTANCE OF THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25 HUMAN, UH, ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING GRANT AWARD TO THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 76,802. APPROVE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE STATE OF ARIZONA TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AS THE ADMINISTER OF THE GRANT FUNDS. ALRIGHT, WELL AGAIN, [01:00:01] THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND, UM, I BROUGHT UP AARON, WHO'S OUR SUPPORT SERVICE MANAGER. UH, THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME TO US MID-YEAR TO APPLY FOR A GRANT. UM, SO IT WAS NOT PLANNED IN THE BUDGET AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN, UM, USE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR AS FAR AS, UM, THIS GRANT PROCESS, UH, I JUST WANTED TO TURN IT OVER TO ERIN AS, UM, SHE WAS THE BIG REASON WITH HER EXCEPTIONAL WRITING SKILLS IN THAT GRANT, UM, REQUEST THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UM, JUST A LITTLE OVER THE 76,000. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO AARON. UM, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR WHAT THIS WAS. UM, WHAT ELSE I CAN SHARE WITH YOU? I, YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRANT APPLICATION THAT I APPLIED FOR, UM, MUCH LARGER. I WAS TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR SOME, UM, EQUIPMENT AND STUFF. BUT, UM, IT'S WHAT WE RECEIVED IS GOING TO BE PHENOMENAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND WILL REALLY ASSIST WITH SOME OF OUR, UM, VICTIM CENTERED SERVICES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE IN OUR POLICING. AND SO, JUST TO HELP WITH THE BREAKDOWN, I THINK IT WAS FOR THE 76, UM, 76,860,000 OF IT RIGHT? WAS FOR, UM, TO GO TOWARDS A VEHICLE PURCHASE AND UPFIT FOR OUR VICTIM ADVOCATE. UM, AS SHE'S GOING AROUND AND MEETING WITH, UM, VICTIMS, THIS ALLOWS HER TO HELP, UM, PROVIDE TRAVEL IF NEED BE TO A SHELTER OR AN EXAM OF SOME SORT. UH, WE ARE PUTTING IN FOR A MINIVAN, . SO YES, THAT WILL HELP MEET THE NEEDS IF WE NEED TO HAVE A CAR SEAT OR ANYTHING ELSE, UM, TO HELP OUR VICTIMS OUT. THE OTHER REMAINING 16,800 WAS FOR, UM, TRAINING THAT IS REIMBURSABLE, UM, AFTER THE TRAINING THAT, UH, IS AIMED TOWARDS VICTIMS AND SAFETY AND, AND TRAINING. SO THAT'S THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE 76,800 COME FROM. OKAY. START WITH DEREK. ANY QUESTIONS PETE? NO. KATHY, I HAD HAD A QUESTION, BUT IT, IT WAS ANS I ASKED IT OF ANNETTE AND IT WAS ANSWERED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I WAS JUST DOUBLE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THIS WAS VERY SPECIFIC. THAT THE MONEY HAS TO SPECIFICALLY BE USED FOR THE, UM, VEHICLE AND FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF TRAVEL AND TRAINING AND THAT IT CAN'T BE, UM, DIVERTED TO ANY OTHER USE. SO, AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE, AND LIKE, UM, AARON SAID WE DID ASK FOR LIKE A LOT. SO WE WERE HAPPY THAT ANYTHING THEY WERE GONNA GIVE US WAS GONNA BE, UM, EXCITING FOR US TO HAVE. SO WAS THIS TOP ON YOUR WISHLIST? WELL, WE WERE, WE, HOW MUCH DID WE PUT IN THERE? I THINK IT WAS LIKE 250. YEAH. 250,000. UM, BECAUSE THE WORST THING THEY COULD SAY WAS NO, THEY HAD MONEY REMAINING THAT, UM, OTHERS HADN'T REQUESTED. SO WE PUT TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD WISHLIST. THANK YOU. AND A VEHICLE'S NOT CHEAP, SO THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER. $76,800. I WAS TRYING TO SAVE US MONEY. YEAH. BRIAN. WELL THANK YOU MELISSA. SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION 'CAUSE UM, I DID NOTICE THE GAP BETWEEN YOUR WISHLIST ON THE GRANT AND THEN THE, THE FUNDS GRANTED. SO MY QUESTION IS REALLY ALONG THE LINES OF WAS, IS THIS MONEY THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY, THE REMAINDER IS THIS MONEY THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR TO TRY AND COVER THOSE EXPENSES? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE COMING FORWARD IN THE NEXT BUDGET? ARE YOU TALKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE CAR AND THE TRAINING? NO, TO THE REMAINING ITEMS THAT, OF THE $250,000. SO THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO TRANSFER INTO THE BUDGET AS FAR AS I THINK THE HELMETS AND, UM, VESTS THAT ARE FOR RIFLE RATED. SO OUR, OUR VEST THAT WE TYPICALLY WEAR ON PATROL ARE AT A LOWER RATING. SO IF WE WERE TO GO INTO AN ACTIVE ATTACKER TYPE SITUATION WHERE WE KNOW WE HAVE HIGHER POWERED WEAPONS, THEN WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON ADDITIONAL VEST AND HELMETS FOR PROTECTION. SO THAT HAS MOVED OVER INTO THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN. UM, LEMME SEE. AND THIS IS FOR NEXT, NEXT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET NOT ALLOTTED INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AS FAR AS THE PATROL RIFLE IN NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WE ARE TRYING TO USE THE RICOH FUNDS TO ACQUIRE THAT. UM, YEAH, SO WE, WE ARE TRYING TO, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON THERE, FIND A WAY TO, TO PURCHASE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND OR BUDGET TOWARDS NEXT YEAR USING POTENTIAL FOR OTHER GRANT APPLICATIONS OR LIKE I SAID, THE RICO FUNDING. SO, YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. PETE, DID YOU WANT SOMETHING [01:05:01] ELSE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. NO, I WANT, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION, CHIEF. SO, UNTIL YOU GET THAT VEHICLE, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME? WELL, WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY BEFORE JULY. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IAN, UM, DC DOW AND AND AARON HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH IAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A VEHICLE THAT WE COULD PURCHASE THAT IT'S WITHIN OUR RANGE, UH, TO, TO GET THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR BEFORE JULY. OKAY. I JUST KNOW THAT SOMETIMES GETTING VEHICLES CAN BE A CHALLENGE, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IT SOONER THAN LATER. YEAH. AND WE WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T VERY SPECIFIC TO ONE MAKE OR MODEL. UH, WE KNOW THAT WE WANT NEEDS AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO HAVE A FAMILY, A GOOD BACK CARGO MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO EASILY, UM, LOAD CHILDREN IN, IN, UM, RESTRAINTS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA REALLY BE SPECIFIC ON THE CAR AND NOT, YOU KNOW, GET A VEHICLE THAT WOULDN'T MEET THE NEEDS. SO I THINK WE'LL GET THERE. I'M CONFIDENT YOU WILL, PETE, YOU WANT TO MAKE THE, THE MOTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE STATE OF ARIZONA THROUGH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE A-Z-D-P-S FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND EXPENDITURE OF THE FY 25 ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $76,800. SECOND. OKAY. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THERE ARE NONE. OKAY. WELL DONE. I GETTING THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS AN EXHAUSTING PACE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS LIKE, LIKE I, I, EVERYTHING'S OUT OF ORDER. WE'RE GOING FAST. AND COUNCILOR KINSELLA HAS NOT MADE A MOTION YET. LIKE SOMETHING'S OFF IN THE UNIVERSE TONIGHT. I KNOW, I HEAR YOU. IT'S 'CAUSE THERE'S SNOW OUTSIDE. YOU JUST JINXED IT. . OKAY. [8.f. AB 3179 Discussion/possible action regarding the approval of a Resolution authorizing the City of Sedona to enter into a purchase agreement to acquire the property at 2411 W. State Rte. 89A in an amount not-to-exceed $1,990,000 plus closing costs and authorization of possible budget transfer of funds of up to $2,015,000.] UM, ITEM F AB 31 79. UH, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF SEDONA TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AGREEMENT TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AT 24 11 WEST STATE ROUTE 89 A IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, 1,990,000 PLUS CLOSING COSTS AND AUTHORIZATION OF POSSIBLE BUDGET TRANSFER OF FUNDS UP TO A 2,015,000 JEANIE. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL. SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LAND ACQUISITION AT A PARCEL, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 24 11 WEST STATE, ROUTE 89 A AND IT'S GOOD. OKAY. SO, UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS LOCATED HERE IN THIS AREA. THIS IS BUILDER SQUARE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, WYNDHAM. AND THE BLUE HERON DRIVE IS ON THE WEST SIDE AND ACROSS THE STREET IS THE SAFEWAY SUPERMARKET. UH, SO, AND SHELBY DRIVE IS RIGHT THERE. SO IT'S A VERY CENTRAL LOCATION IN WEST SEDONA. AND THIS IS AN UP CLOSE, UM, VIEW OF THE PARCEL. AND IT IS, YOU CAN SEE HERE, I ADDED THE LAYERS HERE, SO YOU COULD SEE THAT IT, IT IS NOT IMPACTED BY THE FLOODPLAIN, JUST A LITTLE SMIDGE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARCEL. AND THE ELEVATION IS FAIRLY FLAT. IT DOES, UM, GO TO A LOWER ELEVATION ON THE EAST SIDE. YOU CAN SEE THAT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SEE IT FROM HERE, BUT YOU CAN. THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES INTO THIS PARCEL, TWO CUTOUTS, UM, FROM 89 A AND SOME DETAILS ABOUT THE PROPERTY. SO IT IS OWN COMMERCIAL. IT'S, UH, 1.8 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE OF LAND. THE SELL PRICE, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IS 1.99. UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR, UM, AN AMOUNT OF 2,015,000 TO INCLUDE THE CLOSING COSTS, UM, AND DUE DILIGENCE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PURCHASE OF [01:10:01] THIS PROPERTY. AND SO THIS IS A, THIS IS THE REALTOR'S LISTING, WHICH GIVES A GOOD VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM ABOVE. UM, YOU CAN SEE 89 A BLUE HERON DRIVE. THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH TOWARD AIRPORT MESA AND NORTH TOWARD THUNDER MOUNTAIN. OKAY, SO LET ME GO BACK TO, SORRY, GUYS, BACK TO THAT VIEW. OKAY, SO WHY THIS PROPERTY? SO WE, UM, WE BASICALLY WERE SORT OF INFORMED THAT THIS POTENTIAL PROPERTY WAS POTENTIALLY, IT HAS A GOOD, UH, IT HAS THE ABILITY BASED ON THE QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN, THE QAP, WHICH IS, UM, UH, FOR LITECH FUNDING, IT HAS THE ABILITY TO SCORE HIGH FOR A 9% LITECH PROJECT. UM, THIS PROPERTY COULD SUPPORT BETWEEN UP TO 30, BETWEEN 36 TO 40 UNITS. UM, AND IT WOULD, WITH THAT AMOUNT OF UNITS, IT WOULD MEET ALSO THE FULL PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY REQUIRES. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY ENMESHED IN DUE DILIGENCE ACTIVITIES, UM, REGARDING THIS PROPERTY. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE UPDATES. SO THE UPDATED PHASE ONE ESA HAS BEEN COMPLETED. WE HAVE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN HAND YET. IT'S KIND OF, UM, WAITING FOR SIGNATURES ON THE VENDOR SIDE. BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE IS NO CHANGE FROM LAST SPRING, THAT THERE WAS AN, UM, PHASE ONE ESA COMPLETED LAST SPRING. SO THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THAT ONE. AND, UM, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE ORIGINAL ONE FROM LAST SPRING AND FOUND IT TO BE THOROUGH AND COMPLETE WITH NO ISSUES. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THE UPDATED, UH, ESA WILL BE THE SAME. THE GEOTECH REPORT IS IN, IN THE PROCESS. SO THE PRELIMINARY, UM, DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE ENGINEER, UM, TELL ME THAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS NORMAL, THE SOILS LOOK NORMAL, US USUAL, YOU KNOW, NOTHING SEEMINGLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT IT'S SEEMINGLY BUILDABLE. BUT THIS OF COURSE WILL BE CONFIRMED WHEN WE DO GET THE GEOTECH REPORT IN HAND, WHICH WE WILL HAVE PRIOR TO THE, A POTENTIAL CLOSING DATE OF, UM, WELL NOW IT'S FEBRUARY 28TH, 2025. SO, UM, REGARDING THE TITLE, THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN A MINUTE. UM, AND THEN REGARDING THE ACCESS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, INGRESS AND EGRESS AND FIRE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, IT DOES HAVE TWO EXISTING DRIVEWAYS AS WE MENTIONED, UM, THAT ARE ON 89 A AND IT'S BOUND ON THE WEST SIDE BY BLUE HERON DRIVE. BLUE HERON DRIVE IS A PRIVATE DRIVE, IT'S OWNED BY THE WYNDHAM PROPERTIES. UM, WE DID, UH, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT DID REACH OUT TO THE OWNERS OF THAT, OF THAT ROADWAY, AND WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK IF THEY WILL ALLOW EGRESS. UM, THEY ARE ACTUALLY, UH, THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, LIVE IN MALIBU. SO THEY WERE IMPACTED BY, UM, THE FIRES IN THE PACIFIC PALISADES IN MALIBU. SO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDABLY, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO US, UM, RIGHT NOW, BUT AS SOON AS I, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THEM AND FIND OUT IF THEY WILL ALLOW EGRESS, UH, INGRESS EGRESS AND USE OF THAT ROADWAY, OF COURSE WE WILL, UM, LET EVERYBODY KNOW. [01:15:01] UM, OKAY. REGARDING THE TITLE AND THE, UM, THERE ISN'T, THERE IS AN EASEMENT, UM, THAT IS A BLANKET UNSPECIFIED EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY. KURT, KURT CHRISTIANSEN CITY ATTORNEY, UM, HAS BEEN HELPING TO WORK ON THAT EASEMENT EXCEPTION, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR A CLEAR TITLE. AND BASICALLY HE CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT. BUT BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND, UM, AN EASEMENT STATUS. RIGHT. DOES THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA CLARIFY AND EXPAND ON THAT? SURE. SO, UM, ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT CAME UP ON THE TITLE REPORT WAS THIS EASEMENT THAT WAS LISTED AS UNSPECIFIED, UH, ON A 2024 ALTA. THE, UM, THE COMPANY, THE SURVEYORS THAT DID THE ALTA HAVE AGREED TO RE-LOOK AT THAT. THE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE EASEMENT, IT ACTUALLY HAS A DEFINED, UH, GEOGRAPHICAL FOOTPRINT ON THE VERY SOUTH SIDE OF THE LOT. AND IT ALSO, BY ITS OWN TERMS, WILL EXPIRE IF THE THREE POLES, UM, THE UTILITY POLES ARE EVER UH, REMOVED AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN CUT OFF. AND SO, UM, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S AN EXPIRED EASEMENT AND IT WASN'T THE VERY SOUTH END FOR ELECTRICAL USES, SO IT WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY ANYWAYS. UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO CORRECT THAT AND GET THE TITLE CORRECTED. SO, UH, WE DO HAVE FROM, IF OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND INSPECTION PERIOD WILL LAST THROUGH FEBRUARY 21ST. AND SO THAT'S FOUR WEEKS FROM THIS FRIDAY. UH, TO FINISH CLEARING UP THE LAST FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND TO DATE NOTHING LIKE, UH, JEANIE SAID NOTHING MAJOR HAS COME UP, SOME MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT. GREAT, THANK YOU, KURT. OKAY, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALTA SURVEY. IT IS BEING UPDATED TO REFLECT CERTAIN, CERTAIN MINOR CHANGES. UM, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, LITECH AND THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT, UM, IDEA FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO, UM, THE 9% LITECH APPLICATIONS, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE CRUNCHING EVERYTHING INTO A VERY CONDENSED TIMEFRAME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE LUXURY OF TIME TO DO EVERYTHING REALLY, UM, ONE STEP AT A TIME. SO WE'RE MOVING SORT OF SIMULTANEOUSLY ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FRONTS. WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, THE LAND ACQUISITION. WE'RE WORKING ON THE DUE DILIGENCE ACTIVITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS GOOD WITH THE PROPERTY. AND AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE ISSUED A, UM, AN RFP FOR, UH, THE 9% LITECH, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR HOUSING, UM, IN, UH, SEDONA. AND SO THAT RFP WAS ISSUED, UH, THE CLOSING DATE FOR TO RECEIVE PROPOSALS IS THE 30TH, WHICH IS FRIDAY, THURSDAY, MAYBE IT'S THURSDAY. AND SO WE WILL FIND OUT, UM, ON THURSDAY AT TWO O'CLOCK HOW MANY, UM, APPLICATIONS WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. UM, THEN THE IDEA IS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE REVIEW TEAM WILL, WILL VET AND REVIEW AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHILE WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD POTENTIALLY, UM, AT YOUR DIRECTION WITH THE LAND ACQUISITION CONTRACT, CLOSING ACTIVITIES, ALL OF THAT. UM, THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON, UM, THE 25TH TO, UM, BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR A LITECH PROJECT, UM, CONTINGENT OF COURSE UPON THE SALE OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSING OF THE PROPERTY. AND KURT, BECAUSE KURT JUST TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS RIGHT OVER THERE A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE CHANGE IN THE CLOSING DATE, WHICH WOULD COME AFTER THE 25TH. UM, KURT, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THAT PIECE WILL OCCUR? YEAH, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, THE AWARD OF THE RFP, IF IT'S ALL PREPARED AND READY TO GO ON, UH, FEBRUARY 25TH, SO, SO, UH, MOST, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THE CITY WILL BE READY TO CLOSE BEFORE THE 25TH. UM, IF EVERYTHING CHECKS OUT, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE PURCHASE TONIGHT, UH, SO THIS WON'T EVEN BECOME AN ISSUE. BUT IF FOR SOME REASON, UH, THE CLOSING'S GONNA BE SET ON THE 25TH OR THE 26TH, 27TH OR 28TH, UH, THEN COUNSEL CAN APPROVE THE AWARD OF THE RFP CONTINGENT UPON THE CLOSE OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT IF THE [01:20:01] PROPERTY DOESN'T GET CLOSED, THEN THE RFP DOESN'T GET AWARDED. UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO RESOLVE THAT TIMING ISSUE. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S MORE BECAUSE, UM, IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY, THE PROPERTY CLOSES, THE, UH, LITECH PROJECT GETS AWARDED, THEY SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION BY APRIL 1ST, THAT'S THEIR DEADLINE. AND THEN THE STATE WILL COME BACK WITH THE AWARDS IN THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. USUALLY IT'S AROUND JUNE 1ST OR SECOND, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF THE, UM, IF THE CITY OF SEDONA DOES NOT GET, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET A 9% LITECH, LET'S SAY WE DON'T, UM, IT IS COMPETITIVE. ALTHOUGH THIS SEEMS TO BE SEEMINGLY POTENTIALLY A HIGH SCORING, UM, OPPORTUNITY, WHICH WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. BUT IF WE DON'T GET AWARDED THAT THAT PROJECT, WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THIS PROPERTY FOR HOUSING OF SOME KIND OF HOUSING TO BE DETERMINED IF NECESSARY. AND I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING UP TO SPEED SO FAR ON THIS. I'M SURE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, SO PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, DEREK, UM, ARE YOU GUYS BLUE STAKING THE PROPERTY TO, OR ARIZONA 8 1 1, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED THESE DAYS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S ON, WHAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE? DON'T WANNA FIND OUT. THERE'S A POWER LINE RUNNING DIAGONALLY RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE, YEAH, SO IT WAS BLUE STAKE MOST RECENTLY AS PART OF THE GEO, UH, TECHNICAL INVESTIGATION. UH, 'CAUSE THEY DID DO A LITTLE, UH, SUB TRAINING SAMPLING AND SO THEY NEEDED TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE LINES WERE. OKAY. AND SO YEAH, AS FAR AS THE BLUE, UH, THERE, THAT DID NOT TURN UP ANY UNEXPECTED, UH, UTILITY LINES, UM, OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY SHOWN ON THE ALTA. OKAY. SO THE ALTA ALSO, UH, WHEN THEY DO AN ALTA, THEY GENERALLY BLUE STAKE IT TO ALSO CONFIRM WHERE THAT ALL THE UTILITY LINES ARE RUNNING, WHERE THE, UH, UH, EASEMENT SHOW THEY ARE. UH, THE LAST FULL ALTA WAS DONE IN MAY OF 2024. NOTHING'S CHANGED ON THE SITE SINCE THEN. UH, AND THEY ARE COMING BACK TO UPDATE THE ALTA. OKAY. DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY UNPLEASANT SURPRISES LIKE WE HAD ON FOREST ROAD. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD ANY UNKNOWN SURPRISE. I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GONNA DIG FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT IT'LL BE. AND, AND THEY DID A FEW SAMPLING, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE EXACT SITE PLAN FOR EXACTLY WHERE A BUILDING MIGHT GO. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD STILL BE DETERMINED LATER. SO THERE CAN ALWAYS BE STILL SOME UN UNEXPECTED SURPRISES, BUT WE DON'T EXPECT ANY UNEXPECTED UTILITIES THROUGH THERE ANYWAYS. ALTHOUGH WE HAD THE SURPRISE AT THE, UM, THE PICKLEBALL COURT, UM, THERE WAS A, EVEN THOUGH WE BLUE STAKED IT, THERE WAS A LINE THERE. SO IT CAN HAPPEN STILL. PETE, THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTO ON PAGE FIVE 40 PACKET PAGE 5 41. AND IF THE RED LINE BOUNDARY IS CORRECT, IS THERE AN ENCROACHMENT PROBLEM TO THE SOUTH OF THIS? WHEN I WENT OUT TO LOOK AT THIS, THAT'S VERY WELL DEVELOPED. LANDSCAPING FROM THE WYNDHAM ON THAT SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS? YEAH, IF THE, IF THE BORDER RUNS TO THE STREET TO THE SOUTH, WHICH THE RED LINE INDICATES ON THAT PACKET PAGE SO THAT THAT RED LINE IS NOT ACCURATE, UM, THEY ALSO LISTED ON THERE THAT THE, ONE OF THE TRANS, THE TRANSFORMER BOX THAT YOU SEE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THAT, THE PROJECT AREA. SO THIS WAS FROM THE PHASE ONE. AND SO I'M, I'M ACTUALLY FIND THAT THEY TOOK A LITTLE BIT WIDER VIEW OF THE PHASE ONE TO SEE WHAT'S RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. UM, BUT THAT IS NOT, I DON'T THINK THEY MEANT THAT TO BE A, A LEGALLY ACCURATE MAP OF, OF THE PROPERTY. SO, UM, WYNDHAM OWNS ON THE EAST SIDE THE ENTIRE ROAD SIDEWALK AND A GOOD BUFFER OF LANDSCAPING BEFORE THE PROPERTY. AND SO I THINK THEY DID THAT KNOWING THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT GO THERE AND THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE LOOKS. UM, AND EVEN IF THERE WAS SOME ENCROACHMENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE OUR OWN LANDSCAPE BUFFER AS WELL, UH, TO SOME EXTENT. AND SO I THINK THEY COULD JUST ALL TIE TOGETHER IF THERE WAS, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN USEFUL IF WE TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT ACCESS ON THAT PRIVATE ROAD , IF THERE WAS, UH, ENCROACHMENT THERE. JEANNE ALSO JUST WANTED TO ASK AS WELL, I ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER IN OUR PROCESS AND THIS PROJECT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVING WITH SOME SPEED THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO THIS IS RIGHT ON OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. WE'VE ALL HAD DREAMS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT REDEVELOPING 89 A AND THIS MIGHT BE ONE, IF IT'S A LITECH 9% PROJECT, IS IT ALLOWABLE [01:25:01] FOR US TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH MIGHT BE AN AMENITY FOR THE PROJECT, SOME HOUSING ABOVE, AND THEN OF COURSE HOUSING BEHIND IT? YEAH, IT ABSOLUTELY IS POSSIBLE. UM, IF IT IS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY, IT WILL HAVE TO BE FINANCED SEPARATELY, BUT IT'S DOABLE AND POSSIBLE IT CAN BE IN THE SAME BUILDING IF IT IS A, UM, IF IT IS PART OF THE LITECH APPLICATION, WHICH IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF IT'S A PUBLIC UM, PROGRAM, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S HEALTH CLINIC, IF IT'S A, SOME KIND OF A SUPPORT DAYCARE CENTER, UM, EMPLOYMENT CENTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S BUILT INTO THE PROJECT, THEN IT IS CAN BE COMPLETELY FUNDED BY THE LITECH, DO THOSE THINGS AND NOT SEPARATE TO BE SPECIFIED BY THE APRIL APPLICATION DATE. THEY WILL. SO WHEN WE, UM, WE WILL SEE WHAT, WHAT COMES BACK IN THE PROPOSALS, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW FOR THAT TYPE OF USE IN OUR APPLICATION, WILL THAT BE SPECIFIED? BECAUSE TIMES, SO THE DEVELOPER, I'M SURE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT THERE. UM, SO THE DEVELOPER WILL BE THE APPLICANT FOR THE LITECH FUNDING, RIGHT? WE WILL, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE, UM, THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER AND THEIR PROJECT, BUT BEFORE YOU DO THAT, IT WILL BE VETTED. THE PROPOSALS WILL COME IN ON THURSDAY, THE TEAM WILL REVIEW THEM, MAKE THEIR REC, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES BACK IN THOSE PROPOSALS. THEY MIGHT VERY WELL, UM, INCLUDE COMMERCIAL OR SOME KIND OF A PUBLIC, UM, PROGRAM IN THERE. AND IF IT DOES THAT HELP? YEAH, IT IS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. OKAY. AND IF IT DOESN'T, BECAUSE TIME IS SHORT AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN CREATIVE IN THINKING ABOUT IT, CAN THAT BE MODIFIED ADDED LATER? UH, WELL THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION AND I CAN CERTAINLY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT FOR, FOR CERTAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND COUNCIL. FURMAN, I MIGHT JUST SAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE NEGOTIATED. UM, IT, ONCE AN APPLICANT IS, OR A RESPONDENT IS, IF WE AWARD ONE AND WE FIND ONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIED AND THE STAFF LIKES, UM, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ACTUALLY PLANNING THE SITE, THERE CAN BE SOME ROOM FOR NEGOTIATIONS, UH, ON THAT TYPE OF THANK YOU KATHY. I'LL WAIT FOR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY, ALYSSA. SO I, I HAVE TWO. 'CAUSE NOW I'M A LITTLE, UM, CONFUSED ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION ON, UM, WHAT'S IN THE APPLICATION. SO IF I'M APPLYING FOR LITECH, I HAVE A SPECIFIC APPLICATION THAT I NEED TO FILL OUT FOR THE STATE MM-HMM . I'M ASSUMING. AND THAT LI I'M ASSUMING THAT THE LITECH APPLICATION IS FOR THE PROJECT AS STATED, IF THEY AWARD THE FUNDS, IT'S NOT FOR NEGOTIATION AFTER I AWARD THE FUNDS. IS THAT TRUE OR NOT TRUE? I, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S ROOM FOR CHANGES WITHIN A PROJECT. SO IT CAN, AND IT CAN PUT IN A, AND WE MIGHT HAVE TIME FOR THIS COMMERCIAL UNLESS COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT IT NOW, WE CAN DISCUSS IT NOW, NO COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, THEN WE CAN JUST X THAT. BUT IF THERE'S APPETITE OR DESIRE FOR THAT AND WE WANNA LEAVE THAT AS AVAILABLE, THEN I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN LEAVE THAT IN THE PROJECT. UM, WHAT, AND THAT WON'T HAVE A NECESSARILY A, AN A PRO OR CON EFFECT ON THE, ON THE 9% LITECH PART OF IT, COMMERCIALS ALLOWED IN IT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, UH, A FACTOR IN WHETHER OR NOT IT GETS AWARDED. I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF LET'S SAY 36, YOU THOUGHT 36. SO IF THERE'S, IF THE LITECH APPLICATION IS FOR 36 HOMES AND I'M SUDDENLY SAYING NO, WE'RE GONNA PUT A DAYCARE CENTER IN THERE FOR PUBLIC USE, AND NOW I'M REALLY DOWN TO, I DON'T KNOW, 25 HOMES MM-HMM . BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEN THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE, NO, SO IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SO I MEAN, YOU CAN DO TWO STORIES AND IT CAN BE COMMERCIAL ON THE BOTTOM AND UNITS ON TOP. AND THERE'S, AGAIN, IF COUNCIL DOESN'T WANNA DO IT, AND I THINK A DAYCARE'S PROBABLY TOO BIG. UM, WELL, I I JUST PICK SOMETHING, SOMETHING SMALLER, BUT IT, IT, IT'S JUST, IF IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL LIKE A GROCERY STORE, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLIC THEN THAT IT JUST FEELS LIKE THAT NEED TO BE FACTORED IN BECAUSE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE [01:30:01] WEEDS. AND SO I'LL GET OUT OF THE WEEDS. IT JUST FEELS LIKE YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A LITECH APPLICATION ONCE YOU'VE MADE IT AND BEEN AWARDED THE FUNDING FOR IT ANYWAY. THAT'S JUST ME. I'M SURE YOU'LL GET BACK TO US WITH WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS NEGOTIABLE. WELL, AND COUNSELORS, I MIGHT JUST ADD THAT, UM, A PROPOSAL COULD COME IN WITH A COM COMMERCIAL COMPONENT ALREADY. IT IT COULD, IT COULD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WE DIDN'T SPECIFY AND WHETHER THAT WAS DESIRABLE OR NOT, WE LEFT IT OPEN TO THE PROPOSAL. CORRECT. AND I THINK THAT THAT ODDS HONESTLY IS WHERE I THOUGHT COUNCILOR FURMAN WAS GOING WAS DID WE ASK FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT? POTENTIALLY? NO, NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT YEAH, WE LEFT IT OPEN. SO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS TO SAY LITECH 9% SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 9% IS ACTUALLY ALL ABOUT? OKAY, SO THERE, YEAH, I KNOW. SO 9% LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT VERSUS A FOUR PERCE, 4% LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE, THE 9% LITECH COVERING 90% OF THE COSTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT VERSUS 40% IN A 4% PROJECT VERSUS A NON LITECH AT ALL FUNDED PROJECT. AND, AND SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN, IN NUMBERS, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT A 4% PROJECT FOR, YOU KNOW, 30, 40 UNITS NEEDS A TWO TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY IN ADDITION TO THE LAND. UM, BUT A 9% WOULD ONLY NEED A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO IT'S A THANK YOU THAT THAT IS WHERE I ALWAYS HAD IT. YEAH, IT'S LIKE A, UH, OVER $2 MILLION DIFFERENCE TO THE CITY, RIGHT? YEAH. AND, UM, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THE EXPECTED, I MEAN, I'M TRYING NOT TO USE ANY ACRONYMS. THE EXPECTED INCOMES LEVELS WOULD BE FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN A LITECH 9% VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT COME IN. SO WITH THE, UH, LITECH PROJECTS, THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW, UM, A MI ANNUAL ME MEDIAN INCOME RANGE IS NO HIGHER THAN 60% OF A MI. SO IT'S A, IT'S A LOWER SORT OF RANGE OF INCOME FOR FAMILIES THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED. BUT IT'S A LOWER INCOME, BUT YOU CAN ALSO HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF HIGHER AMIS SO THEY CAN GO UP TO 80% AND POSSIBLY HIGHER AS LONG AS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE UNITS DOESN'T, UM, FALL UNDER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. OKAY. AND CAN YOU TRANSLATE WHAT THE A MI NUMBERS WOULD BE AS FAR AS SALARY RANGES ARE CON ARE CONCERNED, SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE TYPES OF INCOMES PEOPLE WOULD BE EARNING IN ORDER TO, TO LIVE IN THESE BUILDINGS. SO, UM, YEAH, SO SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. YEAH, THANKS. UM, SO THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, UM, IN OUR, IN OUR AREA, AND THIS IS, UM, AROUND, OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'S AROUND 58 TO 60,000 PER YEAR. THAT'S THE MEDIAN FOR THIS AREA. UM, SO 60% OF THAT WOULD BE 36,000, LESS THAN THAT. 36, THANK YOU. 36,000 OR SO. SO WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, THE 35, 36, 40,000 SOMETHING THAT SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, BRIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR JEANNIE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, ABOUT BLUE HAIR AND ON THE ONE SIDE OF THAT YEAH. AND WHETHER THERE MIGHT BE EGRESS INGRESS OPPORTUNITY, IS THAT A MUST HAVE? NICE TO HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, SO WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT? OKAY. GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF LIKE A TERTIARY ACCESS POINT AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON STEVE ES BECAUSE HE DID SPEAK WITH THE, UM, SEDONA FIRE DEPARTMENT TODAY, SO HE CAN SPEAK MORE CLEARLY ON THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, YES, I DID SPEAK WITH THE ACTING, EXCUSE ME, THE ACTING, UH, FIRE MARSHAL AND, UM, AMONGST MANY THINGS HE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS ON THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS EGRESS WENT. HE WAS FINE WITH A SINGLE EGRESS. [01:35:01] WE TALKED ABOUT HOW HE COULD FIGHT THE FIRE ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING FROM BLUE HERON, UM, AND THAT HE WOULD NEED A MINIMUM OF 26 FOOT ACCESS EX, UH, EXCLUDING, UH, ANY PARKING SPACES, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WELL WITH THE INGRESS OFF OF 89 A ON THAT EAST SIDE. THE DRIVE OUT WOULD COME STRAIGHT DOWN ON THAT SIDE. SO HE DID NOT HOW TO HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPERTY. SPOKE ABOUT HOW WE DID HAVE A FIRE HYDRANT RIGHT ON THE CORNER THAT BECAUSE WE'RE OFF OF 89 A, UH, WATER SERVICE AND, AND THE SIZE OF THE MAIN OUT THERE WOULD BE, UH, ACCOMMODATING FOR, UH, THE TYPE OF, UH, BUILDING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT ELSE THAT HE SPOKE OF. UM, BUT YES, AS FAR AS INGRESS EGRESS, HE ONLY NEEDED ONE, UM, IN, IN PART BECAUSE BLUE HERON WAS SO CLOSE. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND SO IF THEY WERE, UH, COOPERATIVE TO PROVIDING THAT ACCESS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE GONNA BE SAYING, WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME? RIGHT? SO WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS IT THAT WE TAKE OVER THAT PRIVATE ROAD AND NOW WE'RE THE ONES ON THE HOOK FOR PAVING AND MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD? I MEAN, IF I'M THEM, I'M NOT DOING THIS FOR FREE JUST TO BE A NICE NEIGHBOR. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I THINK ONE COMPROMISE WOULD BE THE, THE, BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPING'S GONNA RUN IT RIGHT INTO THE LANDSCAPING ON THIS PROJECT. UM, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, UM, THAT YOU, THE CITY COULD TAKE OVER THE LANDSCAPING UP TO THE SIDEWALK AND MAYBE OVER THE SIDEWALK TOO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE ROADWAY. I THINK THE, UH, TERTIARY ACCESS, IF THE CITY HAD ONE ON THAT ROAD WOULD BE RIGHT TOWARDS THE FRONT ANYWAY, WHERE IT ALREADY, UH, THE SIDEWALK COMES RIGHT IN NEXT TO THE CITY PROPERTY. WHEREAS ON THE SOUTHERN END THERE'S THAT LARGER, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER. UM, SO THAT'D BE PROBABLY BE WHERE IT WOULD FIT, SO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, WHAT'S THE LDC LIMIT ON HEIGHT SLASH NUMBER OF FLOORS ON THAT PARCEL? SORRY. UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, TWO STORIES WITH A POSSIBLE OF THREE ON ONE SIDE BASED UPON THE ELEVATION, UM, THAT EXISTS ON THAT EAST SIDE. SO THAT'S STILL WITHIN THE, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS OF DESIGN PLANT, THE, HOW CAN THERE BE THREE ON ONE SIDE, UH, BECAUSE THE LOT SLOPES TO THE EAST AND IT'S POSSIBLE TO, UH, MAYBE GET THREE ON THE ONE SIDE. BUT THOSE, THOSE, THAT'S JUST WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT'S ALLOWING IT ON THAT SIDE? I MEAN LIKE THE NATURAL CONTOURS. THE NATURAL CONTOUR, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE MEASURING FROM THAT. SO HOW, HOW CAN YOU BE WHAT ALLOWS THREE POTENTIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE AND NOT ON THE WHOLE THING? I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL I'LL SCRATCH WHAT I SAID. AND, UH, WE STICK WITH OUR ORIGINAL 22 FOOT HEIGHT WITH POSSIBLE INCREASES BASED UPON, UM, COLOR AND, AND OTHER THINGS. OKAY. AND THEN GIVE US A REMINDER, 'CAUSE YOU JUST MADE ME THINK OF THIS, STEVE, 'CAUSE THIS CAME UP ON THE, UH, THE GOOD ROAD DISCUSSION. HOW MUCH DISCRETION DO YOU HAVE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO OVERRIDE HEIGHT? BECAUSE, UH, IT IS, UM, A, A, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THAT I DO HAVE SOME DISCRETION IN THAT REGARD. AND IT GOES OUT TO WHAT, 30 SOMETHING? UH, I BELIEVE IT'S AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT. EIGHT FEET? YES. ABOUT, YEAH, A LITTLE OVER 30, 30 FEET? YES. MM-HMM . OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY, DEREK, YOU HAD A, A FINAL QUESTION. IF WE DO COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS DOES THAT DISPLACE ROUGHLY? DOESN'T SUCKS. IT WOULD CUT IT, IT WOULD CUT IT. I IF WE DID? YES. I WOULD SAY IN HALF. YEAH. ALRIGHT. MM-HMM . THAT'S, THANK YOU. THE WHOLE FIRST FLOOR WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE COMMERCIAL THOUGH. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE HALF A FIRST FLOOR. I MEAN, THAT'S AN UNKNOWN BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPOSALS IN. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE, KATHY? NOPE. OKAY. UM, I HAVE COMMENTS, SO I'LL WAIT. UH, DO YOU WANNA START WITH YOUR FINAL COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC? NO. DO NO PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE NEED TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC? NOPE. NOPE. OKAY. UM, I SUPPORT THE PURCHASE. UH, MY QUESTION WAS JUST TIED TO THE POINT THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF COMMERCIAL ON 89 A, I DON'T THINK WE NEED [01:40:01] MORE. UM, IF WE HAVE A STOREFRONT THAT DISPLACES A COUPLE OF UNITS, I'D RATHER FRANKLY HAVE THOSE TWO HOUSING UNITS THAN THE EXTRA COMMERCIAL I NEED. SO, UM, THAT DOESN'T GO FOR, AGAINST THIS PURCHASE. I AM FOR THE PURCHASE, BUT I JUST WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD. PETE? YEAH, I'LL ARGUE THE COUNTERPOINT. , THIS IS OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND IT, UH, HAS A CERTAIN LOOK AND FEEL THAT, UH, THAT THIS COMMUNITY AND WE EXPECT IN OUR CODE SPEAKS TO, UH, A COMMERCIAL OPERATION ON THE STREET FRONT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO EXIST ON THE WHOLE FOR FIRST FLOOR, MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A USEFUL AMENITY TO THE PROJECT, UH, DAYCARE FOR THE PEOPLE, FAMILIES, UH, THAT ARE IN THE PROJECT MIGHT BE USEFUL. THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER COMMERCIAL ENTITY THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY ENHANCE THE PROJECT. UM, SO I DON'T WANT US TO CLOSE THE DOOR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR MINDS ARE OPEN AND WE ARE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF WHAT A REDEVELOPED 89 A MIGHT LOOK LIKE. UM, AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT CONCEPTS THAT GO ABOVE TWO FLOORS. SO THANK YOU KATHY. YEAH, I AM STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PURCHASE AND THIS, UM, GOING FORWARD. UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHICH IS ALLOWED DUE TO THE COMMERCIAL ZONING. UH, IT'S GOT THE PROXIMITY TO SUPERMARKET TO, UM, AMENITIES TO TRANSIT. UM, IT'S JUST A GREAT, GREAT LOCATION FOR THAT. UH, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FURMAN THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE THE POSSIBILITY OPEN FOR SOMETHING ON THE, UH, COMMERCIAL USE ON THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE GONNA BE AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA PENCIL AND WHAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA WANNA DO. AND I DON'T WANNA RULE SOMETHING OUT UNTIL WE SEE IT. UM, I THINK THIS IS GREAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THE, YOU KNOW, $36,000 INCOME RANGE, UM, THAT COULD GO THERE BASED ON IF IT IS, DOES GET 9% LITECH. UM, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PERFECT PROPERTY FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. I, THIS IS, IT WAS NOTED BEFORE THAT THIS HAS BEEN MOVING FAST. WE MAY ACTUALLY SEE THIS PROJECT BEFORE WE SEE SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT HAVE TAKEN YEARS. I, I'M EXCITED BY THAT. I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING AHEAD WITH THE PURCHASE, WITH THE, UM, SELECTION PROCESS FOR RFPS TO COME IN. UH, THIS IS EXCITING. THANK YOU, BRIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS. I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT WE SHOULD BE RUSHING, RUSHING, RUSHING FOR THIS ROUND OF 9% LITECH FUNDING, YOU KNOW, ON THE BASIS OF, OH, WELL IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY GET WORSE. THE, THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES MAY BE OF LESSER VALUE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE DOES THIS SESSION. I, I JUST DON'T FIND THAT A COMPELLING REASON TO RUSH ON THIS. UM, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE WILL MISS OPPORTUNITIES TO MAXIMIZE VALUE IN OUR HASTE. UM, AT THIS TIME. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY CONCUR WITH COUNCILOR FURMAN ON, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE USES, LOOKING AT THREE STORIES, UM, IF WE HAVE TO WAIVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO DO THAT. UM, AND, AND IT STILL COMES BACK TO THE QUESTION I'VE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES. SHOW ME THE ANALYSIS THAT SAYS HOW MUCH HOUSING DO WE NEED AT VARIOUS A MI LEVELS. LIKE, AND IT'S MAYBE NOT AS GERMANE TONIGHT AS IT WILL BE IN FEBRUARY WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK WITH WHAT YOU'RE CALLING, YOU KNOW, YOUR WINNER FROM THIS RFP PROCESS. AND IT'S LIKE, I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP SUPPORTING STUFF WHEN WE DON'T. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A STRATEGY, OKAY? I MEAN, IT'S GREAT THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME 60% A MI HOUSING, BUT WE NEED HOUSING, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE JUST HEARD TONIGHT ON THE FIRST REGULAR BUSINESS ITEM THAT WE'RE LIKELY TO LOSE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ZERO AND 60 RENTAL UNITS, RIGHT? THOSE WERE GONNA BE MARKET RATE. UM, I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE RUSHING RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T AFFECT BUYING THE PROPERTY, BUT WHAT WE DO ON IT, THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME OF WHAT'S COMING NEXT. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL, WE'RE WE'RE JUST SHOOTING AT WHATEVER HAPPENS TO BE IN FRONT OF US AND NOT HAVING A CLEAR, UH, DISTINCT [01:45:01] STRATEGY OF HOW MUCH HOUSING AT WHAT A MI LEVELS, HOW MUCH MARKET RATE OR IF OR IF WE'RE JUST GONNA SAY, ENOUGH'S ENOUGH ON, ON, UH, AFFORDABLE AND JUST BUILD, SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF HOUSING AT WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S ON MY MIND. I WILL SUPPORT THE PURCHASE, BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE WELL BAKED ON WHAT TO DO ON IT YET. THANK YOU, MELISSA. I SUPPORT THE PURCHASE AND, UM, I GUESS I HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON IT. WHEN THE LITECH 9% CAN HAVE HOUSING THAT IS AT HIGHER AMIS AND NOT ONLY AT THE LOWER AMIS, THEN IT SAYS TO ME THAT I CAN START TO LOOK AT A BUILDING THAT SUPPORTS OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND OUR CRITICAL WORKERS. WE, WE JUST CAME OFF OF OUR PRIORITY SETTING AND WE SPOKE ABOUT HOW WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET HOUSING FOR POLICE OFFICERS OR CITY WORKERS AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ABOVE THAT 60% A MI, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE HOUSING FOR THEM IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THEN EVEN IF YOU WANNA CONSIDER IT STARTING HOUSING, IT'S GONNA BE HOUSING. THEY CAN AFFORD TO GET THEIR FEET ON THE GROUND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND BUYING A HOME OVER AT NAVAJO LOFTS, OR EVEN RENTING ONE AT NAVAJO LOFTS AT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, MARKET RATE, MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THEIR RANGE. AND SO WE TALK ABOUT WANTING TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN, AND THAT IMPLIES ALLOWING US TO HAVE HOUSING THAT FITS INSIDE OF THAT CATEGORY AS WELL. AND IT IS A GREAT LOCATION AND THE FACT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE HOUSING THERE THAT IS ABOVE 60% A MI, WHATEVER THAT PERCENTAGE IS, WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW. UM, I THINK IS IS IS IMPORTANT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, JUST, JUST AS A GOOD ROW PROJECT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THOSE REASONS. UM, I AGREE. I'M NOT HUNG UP ON TWO STORIES IF IT'S NOT BLOCKING ANYONE'S VIEWS AND WE CAN GO TO THREE STORIES THERE BECAUSE OF THE LAND, THEN I'M, I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE AS A COUNCIL AGREE. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AROUND RUSHING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA GET THE BEST BIDS? ARE WE GONNA GET EVERYONE WHO MIGHT BID TO BID BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK THAT'S TRUE WITH EVERY PROJECT. AND SO I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WAIT FOREVER FOR THE PERFECT THING TO SHOW UP. AND IF A, IF A GOOD ENOUGH THING SHOWS UP, THEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT SHOULD BE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PERFECT IS ALWAYS ENEMY OF GOOD ENOUGH. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SOME GREAT STUFF COMING FORWARD. AND I'M ASSUMING ALSO THAT IF NOTHING GOOD IT COMES FORWARD AND YOU PRESENT WHATEVER YOU PRESENT, WE WILL HAVE THE OPTION OF SAYING WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE BEING CAGED IN BY ANY OF THIS DISCUSSION. SO I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, PROJECT. UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FACT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THE SALE OF 4 0 1 JORDAN ROAD. I FEEL THAT THIS LOCATION IS FAR BETTER, MORE SUITED FOR HOUSING THAN UP ON JORDAN ROAD. UM, AND IT WAS MENTIONED HERE BEFORE, COUNCILOR KINSELLA MENTIONED IT, THAT IT'S RIGHT ON THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. MM-HMM . IT'S RIGHT, WELL, ALMOST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SHOPPING. THERE'S A LOT OF AMENITIES THERE, UH, TO ADDRESS COUNCILOR FURMAN AND SOME OTHERS. WE WE'RE VERY LUCKY. WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY EMPTY STOREFRONTS IN SEDONA, AND I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF STOREFRONTS. WE NEED HOUSING. I AGREE WITH DEREK. UM, THIS IS A CRITICAL ISSUE. WE JUST STARTED OUR, UH, OUR, UM, HOUSING EMERGENCY, RIGHT? AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY IN THE VERDE VALLEY THAT HAS AN ISSUE WITH HOUSING, UH, JUST THE MOST, UH, LOSS OF HOUSING HERE. TO ME. WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON HOUSING IF WE CAN DO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY LIKE THAT, LOOK AT THE, THE VIEW, UH, SHARED OF A TH UH, THIRD STORY. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA PLAY OUT. BUT IF WE DO A THIRD STORY AND WE CAN DO MORE HOUSING AND WE CAN GET MORE CRITICAL WORKERS, UH, NAH IS, UH, HAVING A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SO MUCH DOCTORS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, TECHNICIANS, MAINTENANCE WORKERS, THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM IN THE VERDE VALLEY BE BECAUSE OF LACK OF THOSE KIND OF HOUSING. SO WE REALLY NEED HOUSING HERE. WE DON'T, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE STOREFRONTS, BUT WE NEED HOUSING. SO, [01:50:01] UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING, I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT WAIVING THE PARKING FEES OR PARKING ANALYSIS BECAUSE OF WHAT, UH, COUNCILOR LTZ SAID. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING THERE, THEY'RE GONNA BE PARKING AT PRO BUILDER, THEY'RE GONNA BE PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT. SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UH, SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION. KATHY KINSELLA, YOU WANT TO DO THE MOTION? I DO. COUNSEL, IF I, JUST FOR THE RECORD, STATE THAT THE AGREEMENT, THE PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT THAT WAS IN THE PACKET, THE SELLER REACHED OUT LATE LAST WEEK AFTER THE PACKET WAS PUBLISHED, UH, REQUESTING SOME CHANGES. UH, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH OVER THE WEEKEND AND I SENT OUT TO COUNSEL THE UPDATED AGREEMENT. UM, TODAY, UH, THERE WAS NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES. THERE WERE, UH, ABOUT A DOZEN MINOR CHANGES. I EXPLAINED THAT TO COUNSEL. THE MOTION DOES HAVE, UM, COUNSEL APPROVING THE AGREEMENT, UH, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE WRITTEN AGREEMENT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND SO THERE'S NO NEED TO CHANGE THE MOTION, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD, THAT THE FINAL AGREEMENT WON'T BE EXACTLY LIKE WHAT'S IN THE PACKET. OKAY. THANK YOU KURT. KATHY? YES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 4 1 1 WEST STATE, ROUTE 89, A CITY OF SEDONA, ARIZONA FOR THE SUM OF $1,990,000 PLUS CLOSING COSTS AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT AND ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE WRITTEN AGREEMENT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND TO APPROVE A TOTAL BUDGET TRANSFER OF $2,015,000 FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS. SEDONA, IN MOTION, FIVE D PROJECT ACCOUNT. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, DEREK ON SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ZERO. OKAY. OKAY. [8.g. AB 3066 Discussion/possible action regarding future meeting/agenda items.] NOW WE ALL KNOW THAT THANK YOU G CAN BE VERY, VERY LENGTHY. UH, BUT I THINK WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. OKAY. AB 30 66, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FUTURE MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS. OF COURSE. WE HAVE A MEETING HERE TOMORROW, MELISSA. SO, UM, TODAY YOU ASKED ME TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY UPDATE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE GSRC MM-HMM . SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF PEOPLE WOULD BE ON THE COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN US HAVING A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AFTER THE ENTERPRISE, UM, ACTION PLAN HAS BEEN, UH, RECEIVED AND DISCUSSED, AND HAVE THE CITIZEN LEADS FOR EACH OF THE TEAMS COME AND PRESENT BOTH THE ENTERPRISE AND ALSO HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO GET TO CONCRETE SOLUTIONS USING THE GSRC GROUPS. I, I, YEAH, I THINK NO ONE ELSE DOES. I WOULD SECOND THAT I, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME? NO, IT HAS TO BE AFTER FEBRUARY ANYWAY. NOBODY'S GONNA, YEAH, IT HAS TO BE AFTER FEBRUARY ANYWAY. YEAH. OKAY. YES, I WOULD, MAYOR, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH, UM, THE DISTRICT RANGER TO PIN DOWN WHEN THEY THINK THAT INTER ENTERPRISE PLANNING PROJECT WILL BE DONE. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL FIND A TIME. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? UH, POINT OF ORDER. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE, I THINK OUR RULES SAY WE GOTTA HAVE MORE THAN TWO TO OH. TO SHORTCUT THE PROCESS. AND I CERTAINLY AM THERE AS WELL. I'M IN FAVOR. WE'RE ALL, I THINK WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE SAW EVERYONE NODDING. RIGHT? THANK YOU. YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. I REALLY APPRECIATE BECAUSE I, AND I'VE BEEN GETTING UPDATES SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE, THE OTHERS DON'T IN GENERAL PUBLIC. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. UH, BUT THANK YOU PETE. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING, TOMORROW'S GONNA BE A RATHER LARGE MEETING. THIS ROOM WILL BE FILLED AND RATHER EXCITING. SO, UH, WE'LL SEE YOU ALL TOMORROW. MEETING'S ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. OH, THIS IS A RECORD, MAN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.