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THEN, UH, WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING[Historic Preservation on February 10, 2025.]
OF THE CITY OF SEDONA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO ORDER, UH, AT 4 0 5 OFFICIAL VERIZON TIME.UH, IF YOU'LL ALL JOIN ME, STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE'LL GO TO OUR PERHAPS MEAGER ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER FEENEY IS EXCUSED.
AND COMMISSIONER SECONDER IS UNEXCUSED
MAYBE HE'LL COME RUNNING AROUND THAT CORNER.
ANY SECOND? UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
STAFF SAYS, NO COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY? I, UH, I'LL SHARE ONE THING.
I SPOKE WITH BRIN UNGER LAST WEEK, AND SHE SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S DOING QUITE WELL.
SHE'S FINISHED THE FIRST LONG STAGE OF HER TREATMENT AND WILL BE GOING TO NEW YORK OR NO, FLORIDA FOR THE FINAL STAGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MACHINE THERE THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT HER MARKERS AND EVERYTHING HAVE MADE A VAST IMPROVEMENT, SO.
UH, FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNAWARE, UH, BRYN UNGER IS THE, UH, LONGTIME COMMISSIONER AND, UH, FORMER CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER HERE? WE'LL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 13TH, 2025.
EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THOSE OVER? YES.
I, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
DON'T NEED A MOTION, RIGHT? NO, AS LONG AS EVERYONE'S HAPPY WITH 'EM.
KEEP LOOKING OVER AT DONNA, MAKING SURE SHE'S KEEPING ME ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW HERE.
UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CHANGED THAT.
WE'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC FORUM.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 31 0 1 H, ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND MOVE ON TO REGULAR BUSINESS.
UM, FIVE A IS COMMISSIONER TRAINING FROM KURT CHRISTENSEN.
UH, GIVEN THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT HERE, UH, WE WILL TABLE THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, AND DO THAT IN MARCH.
UH, MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S HERE.
DISCUSSION OF THE SHIPPO CONFERENCE ON MAY 14TH THROUGH 17TH, INCLUDING ATTENDANCE AND THE POSSIBLE USE OF CITY POOL VEHICLES.
SO, UM, AS I BELIEVE YOU'VE RECEIVED A COPY OF THE, UH, CONFERENCE MATERIALS, WHICH DON'T REALLY INCLUDE A WHOLE LOT.
UM, THE CONFERENCE IS GOING TO BE MAY 14TH THROUGH THE 17TH, UM, IN PHOENIX.
THEY HAVE NOT COME OUT WITH A SCHEDULE OF, UH, EVENTS OR, OR, UH, MEETINGS, SEMINARS, WHATNOT.
UM, BUT JUST KIND OF A, A HOLD, PUT A HOLD ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR THIS.
AND AS SOON AS WE FIND SOMETHING MORE, WE'LL LET ALL THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW.
I, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY, UM, LITERALLY ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO FROM ARIANA URBAN, UH, WHO IS THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT COORDINATOR FOR SHIPPO.
UM, WITH JUST A TOUCH MORE INFORMATION, UM, THEY WILL BE HOLDING IT, UM, THOSE DATES.
UH, WE'LL BE LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX AT THE CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM'S FACILITIES.
A SU DOWNTOWN AT THE CRONKITE SCHOOL IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX.
IS, IS THIS A MEETING THAT IS PROVIDED AND
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FUNDED BY THE CITY? WOULD THE CITY LIKE TO ANSWER? YES.I WAS WAITING FOR, DO I GOTTA MOVE? SHE'S NODDING HER HEAD
AND IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO ATTEND, IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ME TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE AS SOON AS THEY PUT INFORMATION OUT, THEN I WOULD BE SUBMITTING YOUR REGISTRATIONS, ET CETERA.
YOU ALSO, ALSO, YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL CHECK MY CALENDAR.
AND WOULD EITHER OF YOU WANT TO BE USING A CITY VEHICLE? SURE.
I'D PROBABLY GO DOWN NO, WITHOUT A CITY VEHICLE.
OH, LOOK, BECAUSE I'D PROBABLY GO DOWN BY MYSELF 'CAUSE 'CAUSE I MAY HAVE TO DOUBLE UP AND DO OTHER THINGS.
WELL IF, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING, IF IT'S ONE OR TWO, THEN THAT'S PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED A CITY VEHICLE, BUT OKAY.
IF THEY'RE OFFERED, I'LL TAKE ONE.
WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE USE OF A CITY VEHICLE LATER.
YEAH, I CAN DRIVE ANYTHING
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SHIPPO CONFERENCE? UM, NO CHAIR FOR A MOMENT.
UH, MOVING ON TO FIVE C, DISCUSSION OF INVITING SHIPPO TO SEDONA HPC FOR CLG TRAINING, CLG BEING CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, I WILL SAY IN ARIANA'S EMAIL, UM, SHE JUST HAS A TAG THAT SEEMS TO BE ON THE END OF ALL OF HER EMAILS AND IT SAYS MY TRAVEL SCHEDULE IS BELOW.
IF I'M IN YOUR AREA AND YOU'D LIKE TO REQUEST A MEETING SITE VISIT OR TRAINING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
SHE IS IN OUR AREA, UM, TODAY,
AND THE 26TH SHE'S IN FLAGSTAFF.
UH, BUT HER SCHEDULE ONLY GOES THROUGH THE 26TH.
SO WE PROBABLY CAN'T DOUBLE UP ON ANY OF THOSE, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY DRAG HER OUT TO SEDONA ANOTHER TIME.
UM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH HER, STEVE? SORRY,
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO DO TO, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE KIND OF IDEAL IF WE COULD TIE IT TO AN HPC MEETING WHEN WE ALREADY ALL PLANNED TO GET TOGETHER.
UM, AND I KNOW WE WERE THINKING ABOUT WAITING UNTIL AFTER KURT MADE HIS PRESENTATION TO US.
UM, SO WE WEREN'T DOUBLING UP.
UM, DOES THAT POTENTIALLY PUSH US TO LOOKING AT APRIL TO BRING ARIANA OUT THEN? IT COULD.
UM, I WAS LOOKING AT MY NOTES FOR THE LAST MEETING TO SEE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP ON AGENDA TO DISCUSS.
'CAUSE IT IT WASN'T ME
UM, ANYWAY, UH, WE DEFINITELY, IF YOU WANTED TO, WE COULD SET IT UP FOR APRIL, IF THAT FITS WITHIN HER SCHEDULE.
YEAH, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF IT DOES.
CERTAINLY MAY'S GONNA BE OUT BECAUSE OF THE CONFERENCE, BUT WHAT ABOUT MARCH? UM, WELL THE, THE ONLY THING ABOUT MARCH IS, UM, IF IT DOUBLES UP WITH, UM, KURT'S TRAINING, KURT'S TRAINING, THAT COULD LEAD TO A LONG, LONG MEETING, WHICH IS FINE, UM, IS AN OPTION.
WELL, UH, THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT IT UP WAS WE HAD MENTIONED APRIL AS BEING WHEN WE TAKE THE CITY VEHICLE AND GO AROUND TO SOME OF THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED MAR, UH, MARCH MM-HMM
SO IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK.
DO, UH, I, HAVING NOT BEEN THROUGH SUCH TRAINING, UM, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF ALLOTMENT OF TIME? I DON'T, UH, I MEAN THE, THE CLG TRAINING THAT WE'LL GET AS COMMISSIONERS AT THE CONFERENCE, UH, IS ONE THING.
BUT I THINK, UM, I THINK SHE COULD PROBABLY TAILOR SOMETHING TO FIT WITHIN A TIMEFRAME WE ASK HER TO FIT.
UM, AND FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CLG, WHAT'S, UH, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE CITY'S ROLE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION? I THINK JUST KIND OF HITTING SOME OF THOSE IN SOME SENSE, BASIC, BUT REALLY, REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
UH, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE THREE COMMISSIONERS HERE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM
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AND I DON'T KNOW IF I ONLY SET IT UP.I DON'T, I THINK I KIND OF KNOW ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, IF, IF COMMISSIONER EGNER OR FEENEY HAS, HAS EVER BEEN THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
CERTAINLY BOTH OF THEM WERE AT, UM, THE LENGTHY CLG TRAINING LAST YEAR WITH ME MM-HMM
BUT I, I THINK THAT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT, UM, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I THINK WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF, YOU KNOW, HELPING EVERYONE HERE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROLE OF THIS COMMISSION SHOULD BE.
UH, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE, THE CONVERSATION LAST FALL WITH, WITH CITY COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THIS COMMISSION GOING? RIGHT.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE KURT COMING BACK AND THEN HAVE ARIANA, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 40 MINUTES FOR KURT, 45 MINUTES AND THEN YEAH.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE 45 TO AN HOUR FOR ARIANA, THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF SHE HAS TO COME UP FROM, UH, PHOENIX, WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD TAKE HER TO DINNER AFTERWARDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO IF WE RAN OVER, SHE'D HAVE SOMETHING? OR WHETHER SHE'D WANT TO GO RUNNING BACK TO PHOENIX? I MEAN, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HER.
I I THINK THIS IS STUFF TO FIND OUT.
SOMETIMES WHEN THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL, WE PUT THEM FIRST ON THE AGENDA SO SHE COULD DO HER TRAINING AND LEAVE.
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I SET UP THE CLG THAT WAS YEARS AGO, AND I WOULD LIKE A REFRESHER.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SOUND SNARKY ABOUT IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR ME TO KNOW.
I THINK, UH, I THINK FINDING HER AVAILABILITY AND SEEING WHAT SHE OFFERS AND SEEING HOW WE CAN FIT IT INTO A MEETING THAT DOESN'T, UH, REQUIRE US TO SIT HERE FOR A COUPLE HOURS IS PROBABLY
AND SOMETHING STAFF APPRECIATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'VE GOT A COUNCIL MEETING THE NEXT DAY, THAT COULD TAKE 'EM A LITTLE LATE TOO.
SO I, I WILL, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND.
IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE IN THEIR SCHEDULE.
THIS MIGHT BE A MOOT, IT MIGHT NOT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, SO YEAH.
LET'S FIND OUT HER AVAILABILITY AND GO FROM THERE.
UM, A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE MEDU RIGBY HOUSE AS IT RELATES TO THE HISTORIC NATURE AND PRESERVATION OF THE HOUSE IN LIGHT OF A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY THAT IT SITS ON
SO IN HIS ABSENCE, I GUESS WE'LL BE PUSHING THAT OFF ON THE NEXT OKAY.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING BEFORE WE COMPLETELY TABLE IT, IS THERE ANY MOTION ON THAT FROM, UM, UH, THE, THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH US ON THE, UM, I GUESS PLANNING AND PERMITTING SIDE OF THINGS OR, SO THEY HAVE NOT COME BACK THROUGH TO APPLY FOR THAT, UH, ZONING CHANGE YET.
SO I, I KNOW LAST TIME WE WERE HERE THEY HADN'T RIGHT.
AND IT WAS UNSURE WHAT THE TIMELINE MIGHT BE.
IT'S, IT'S ALL IN THEIR COURT AT THIS POINT.
THAT I, I DID SEE THAT APPLICATION ON THE S WEBSITE, THE GOV, THE GOVERNMENT WEBSITE, SO YOU CAN GET A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT, AT LEAST FROM, FROM THEIR APPLICATION.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I SAW FOR THE ZONING APPLICATION.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE NOT COME BACK YET BEFORE.
I, I JUST SAW AN APPLICATION AND I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW IT AND HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO IT WOULD BE LIKE A USEFUL TO LOOK AT.
IS THAT WHAT THEY WOULD'VE FILED WITH P AND Z? I'M SORRY? IS THAT WHAT THEY WOULD'VE FILED WITH P AND Z FOR A ZONING CHANGE? WOULD'VE CHA YEAH.
WOULD'VE FILED WITH, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH YOU MM-HMM
SO IT WAS FROM, I THINK LUKE, LUKE SEPTON WAS THEIR, YOU KNOW, ACTIONS, THEIR APPLICANT, UM, AND IT WAS PRETTY, IT, IT HAD A LOT OF PAGES AND BROKEN DOWN, SO IT'S KIND OF EASY TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT, IT WAS, I THINK YOU COULD, I, I DIDN'T REVIEW IT.
I JUST SAW IT WAS THERE, BUT IT WOULD BE WORTH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE TIME JUST TO QUICKLY REVIEW IT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT BEFORE WE, ARE WE SCREWED ALONG? IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO HOP ON PRETTY QUICK OR DOES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT? AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, UM, SINCE, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY, UH, HAVE TAKEN THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO THEM, UM, AND THEY HAVE
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NOT YET COME BACK, UH, WITH ANY CORRECTIONS OR, UH, OR CHANGES AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL WILLING TO GO FORWARD ON IT.HAS PNZ SEEN THEIR APPLICATION? HAVE THEY CONSIDERED IT? NO.
SO IT HASN'T EVEN GONE TO PNZ YET.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER FEENEY, UM, WANTED TO COME BACK TONIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY ADDITIONAL HISTORIC INFORMATION THEY FOUND.
AND I KNOW THAT THE, UH, UH, COMMISSION FROM LAST MEETING, UM, HAD, UH, IDENTIFIED THE URGE TO, YOU KNOW, GET ON THE PROPERTY AND, AND ASKED THE PROPERTY OWNERS IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PHOTOGRAPH OUTSIDE, INSIDE, UM, FOR PROSPERITY.
AND, UM, I DO BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, DISCUSSED AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION SUBMITTAL PROCESS.
I DON'T WANNA SEE THIS GET AWAY FROM US.
UH, THIS IS, IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT PROPERTY.
SO WE, WE'D, I'M SORRY, BECAUSE I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
UM, ANY SORT OF APPLICATION TO MAKE IT A CANDIDATE FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IS REQUIRED TO BE DONE BY OUR COM COMMISSION.
SO AN APPLICATION FOR LANDMARKING, UH, COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD APPROACH THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH.
UH, OR IT COULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE EITHER WAY, BASICALLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'D ALWAYS NEED THE
UM, BUT WE HAVE, IN FACT, UH, THE LAST TWO LANDMARKS, UH, AT LEAST ONE OF 'EM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ASKED IF THEY WANTED TO, UH, BE A PART OF THAT APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO IT'S LIKE, IT'S A TEAMWORK KIND OF THING.
TEAMWORK KIND OF THING THAT CAN ORIGINATE FROM EITHER PARTY.
AND THE, UH, THE SURVEY PORTION OF THE APPLICATION IS TYPICALLY A BIT TOO IN DEPTH FOR MOST PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THEMSELVES, AND THAT'S WHERE SOMETIMES IT, WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMISSION, THAT THAT PORTION OF THE APPLICATION CAN BE DONE BETTER.
AND THERE, AND IT IS ON THE LAST SURVEY, SO IT HAS BEEN SURVEYED OFFICIALLY AND, UM, THE 2014 ONE I DID WAS, BUT THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT NANCY BURGESS DID.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE THE DOCUMENTATION INDICATED, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT AT THE TIME, UM, THERE WERE TOO MANY ALTERATIONS MADE TO THE HOUSE TO HAVE IDENTIFIED IT AS, UH, UH, A CONSIDERATION FOR LANDMARKING.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT NOW SINCE I SAW IT BACK A LONG TIME AGO, AND I WOULD KNOW RIGHT AWAY,
IT'S BEEN ALTERED AND WE CAN'T SURE.
BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, WE COULD POSSIBLY GET SOME MORE PHOTOGRAPHS, SOME MORE INFORMATION, UM, FOR THE SURVEY BOOK.
THERE'S A COMMENT IN HERE ABOUT, UH, THE OPINION BEING THAT, UH, IT CAN'T BE LANDMARKED, BUT, UH, NOT FINDING IT RIGHT THIS SECOND, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS PART OF THE, IT IT WAS, YEAH.
I DON'T AGREE WITH IT
WELL, WE WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT, UH, JACK BRINGS FORWARD.
UH, AT THE NEXT, UH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY HE'S BACK IN BETTER HEALTH.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
WHO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF REACHING OUT TO THE, THE OWNERS AND TO SET UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHO, WHO'S THAT FALL ON? THAT'S IS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHAIR WASN'T, OR, OR KAREN WASN'T GONNA ANSWER THAT.
UM, THE RESPONSIBILITY REALLY FOR LANDMARKING PROPERTIES IS, IS SOMETHING THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSION.
SO, UM, IF IT, LIKE IN THIS CASE, UH, STAFF HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, A MEETING OR CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, BECAUSE OF A PROCESS
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GOING ON, CERTAINLY WE CAN HELP WITH THAT.BUT IT WOULD, IT'S THE COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, IN FACT, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR MAIN RESPONSIBILITY HERE IS TO LANDMARK PROPERTIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET SOME GUIDANCE PROBABLY FROM FOLKS THAT ARE COMING TO TELL US THE WAY APPROACH THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY A GOOD WAY TO APPROACH THAT AND A ROUGH WAY TO APPROACH THAT
HONESTLY, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, UH, UH, OUR ATTORNEY IS NOT GONNA GIVE YOU THAT ADVICE.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED IN A MEETING, UH, WITH COMMISSIONERS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD CALL THE COMMISSIONERS AFTER THE MEETING AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? AND WE SHOULD ALL GO OVER THERE AND TALK TO THEM.
YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A QUORUM, WE NEED TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN POST THAT.
SO LEGALLY YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO ALL, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST HAVE A QUORUM TOGETHER.
SO, UM, ANY DISCUSSION OF LANDMARKING OF PROPERTY SHOULD HAPPEN HERE AND ANY DIRECTION SHOULD HAPPEN HERE AT THESE MEETINGS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR MIGHT GIVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO ONE OR TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO FOLLOW UP ON.
UM, BUT, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS REALLY SHOULD HAPPEN HERE.
AND I'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PRO, IF YOU APPROACH THE PROPERTY OWNER IN A, YOU KNOW, A POSITIVE MANNER AND, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE, I'M NOT HERE TO TAKE AWAY YOUR PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTAL, THEY'VE GENERALLY ALWAYS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE.
AND I WENT BY MYSELF, UH, WHEN I DID IT.
THAT WAS BACK OF WAYS
UH, FIVE EI THINK, UH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO TABLE CONFIRMATION OF COMMISSIONER SIGNER'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE VICE CHAIR POSITION.
UH, ALTHOUGH SPEAKING OF HIM, LIKE, UH, IT, IT'S FUNNY, LITERALLY TWO MINUTES AGO, UH, HE JUST TEXTED ME THERE WAS A, AN ISSUE HE HAD TO GET TO FLAGSTAFF, SO HE APOLOGIZED.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN THAT, BUT, UH, F DISCUSSION.
MIGHT I INTERRUPT? I, I'M SORRY.
UM, HAS ANYBODY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, SINGULAR LINETTE AS A GROUP, HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMISSIONER NER REGARDING, UM, THE PREVIOUS, THE VOTE FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING? DO WE KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD ACCEPT? I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO HIM ABOUT THAT.
I CAN
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T GET OUR TRAINING TODAY,
SO I GUESS I COULD PLEAD IGNORANCE AS LONG AS IT'S JUST YOU.
HE IS AWARE HE'S UP FOR THAT, ISN'T HE? IS HE AWARE? NO, HE WASN'T HERE.
HE WAS NOT PRESENT IF HE READ THE MINUTES
HE WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING.
HE HENCE OUR, OUR AGENDA ITEM.
IF, IF HE DECIDES NOT TO DO THAT, WE JUST EXACTLY.
MOVE ON AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT BE, IT'S JUST KIND OF FUNNY.
THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO SHOW UP MEETINGS, FORMAL SETTING, IT SEEMS YEAH.
FORM REALLY FORMAL THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS, SO YES.
WHERE IN OTHER MEETINGS SOMETIMES, UH, THAT AREN'T AS MAYBE AT THIS LEVEL.
THAT'S THE TRICK YOU ALWAYS GET.
THE GUYS, THE PERSON THAT'S NOT AT THE MEETING MM-HMM
IN AND PLACE 'EM, AND EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD LAUGH AND YOU GO FORWARD
SO LEAVING STEVE AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE MOMENT, UH, UH, FIVE F DISCUSSION PROPERTIES TO ASSESS FOR POSSIBLE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
I'VE LISTED THOSE HERE THAT YOU HAVE A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, THE ONES THAT I AM CERTAIN ARE, UH, CAN REALLY GO FORWARD.
UH, SEDONA COMMUNITY CEMETERY.
I, I BELIEVE THAT CITY PROPERTY, IT HAS NOTHING ON IT OTHER THAN SEDONA COMMUNITY PROPERTY AND RULES AND REGULATIONS.
NO INDICATION OF THE AGE, NO INDICATION.
IT SHOULD BE LANDMARKED QUICKLY.
I CANNOT SEE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT I CAN'T SEE IF THERE'S ANY HOLD UP IN THAT.
THERE'S, THAT SHOULD BE DONE AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I'M REALLY QUITE PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT ONE.
AND IF ANYBODY HASN'T BEEN TO THAT CEMETERY, THEY SHOULD GO.
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THE ONE THAT I THINK IS A GOOD ONE IS THE SEDONA ELKS LODGE.
THAT HAS NOT CHANGED WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 1965 AND IT'S ORIGINAL.
THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS ON THAT.
AND I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THE SADONA ELKS, UH, THE EXALTED RULER OR ANYTHING TO FIND OUT IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING, BUT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THE, UM, SECOND ONE THAT I THINK THAT, UH, COULD BE IFFY IS THE SUNSET VILLAGE MOBILE HOME PARK WAS STARTED IN 59 60, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW IT'S, UH, THE LAND IS THERE, BUT THERE AREN'T VERY MANY LEFT OF THE EARLY MOBILE HOMES.
MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND NEW ONES PUT IN.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S, I'M NOT SURE OF IT.
I WOULD BE LIKE TO HAVE EVERYBODY LOOK AT IT, SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
BUT IT IS DEFINITELY AN OLDER PROPERTY.
AND, UH, THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, THE UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST, CHURCH OF THE RED ROCKS.
IT WAS STARTED IN 60 AND THE PHOTOGRAPH WE HAVE AT THE CHURCH SHOWS A BUILDING I'VE NEVER SEEN THERE BEFORE.
AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS, IT WAS LOOKED LIKE VERY TEMPORARY BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE NOW, WE BELIEVE WAS BUILT IN 62.
I HAVE ASKED THE, UH, MODERATOR WHAT HE THOUGHT, AND OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY TO HAVE THAT DONE.
I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE, BUT IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE BUILDING IS STILL THERE.
SO IT WOULD BE, UH, WHAT WE'D WANT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, TWO POSSIBLE DISTRICTS.
UH, THE, UH, MAD ROAD, THERE ARE 14 MEDO HOMES AND I COUNTED THEM.
MOST OF THEM LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN REALLY GOOD, ALMOST ORIGINAL NOW.
I CAN'T SAY EVERY SINGLE ONE IS TOTALLY ORIGINAL, BUT THEY SURE LOOK LIKE THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE.
THERE ARE SOME IN THERE THAT ARE NOT, BUT I COUNTED 14, SO THAT I'D LIKE TO DO AS A DISTRICT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF HOMES UP IN UPTOWN SEDONA, LIKE SMITH ROAD, APPLE ROAD, ALL THESE UP THERE.
IT, IT'S A MISHMOSH OF HOMES FROM ALL DIFFERENT AGES STARTING IN THE 1940S.
UH, JOE BEELER'S HOME IS UP THERE, THE SMITH'S HOME'S UP THERE.
SO THERE ARE SOME OF, OF THE REALLY EARLY HOMES MIXED IN WITH A BUNCH OF NEWER HOMES.
IT'S A REAL GROUP, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAYBE LOOK AT IT AS A DISTRICT RATHER THAN, UH, TRYING TO PICK OUT EACH HOME.
SO THAT KINDA GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I PULLED IN HERE, WHAT I'D LIKE MM-HMM
BUT LIKE I SAY, I'D LIKE TO GET HOP ON THE SEDONA COMMUNITY CEMETERY AS AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THERE SHOULDN'T FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK.
AM I BEING TOO, TOO EASY?
IS THE CITY THE OWNER ON THAT? OR IS THAT I BELIEVE IT IS CITY PRIVATELY OWNED.
I I BELIEVE IT'S C DO YOU KNOW ANYONE? I COULDN'T TELL YOU.
YEAH, THEY, IT'S THE, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S CITY, IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE EITHER, BUT I KNOW THAT, UH, IT, IT NEEDS DESIGNATING AS FAR AS HAS THE PAVILION, SHE PURSUED BOTH OF THOSE WHEN SHE WAS CHAIR.
AND THERE REASON THEY COULDN'T HAPPEN.
I COULD CHECK THE, UM, HISTORICAL SOCIETY RECORDS, SEE IF, UH, SHE LEFT ANYTHING THERE TOO THAT, THAT MIGHT HELP WITH, WITH THIS EFFORT.
UH, BOBBY? YEAH, I JUST, I JUST MET HER RECENTLY.
SHE'S ON A BOARD, FRIENDS OF THE SOUTHWEST WINE CENTER BOARD THAT I'M ON, AND SHE JUST CAME ON, WE JUST BROUGHT HER ON LIKE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.
SO I, WE FIGURED OUT THAT I GOT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED BEFORE.
SO I'M PLANNING TO TALK TO HER ANYWAYS, JUST KIND GET HER TO GIMME A LITTLE SENSE OF WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
BUT, UM, MAYBE IF I COULD MAKE SURE I'M ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
SO IT'S, IT'S THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
THE ME, THE MEDO, IT'S ON THE 14 MEDO HOMES.
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MEDO.ON MEDO ROAD OFF OF 89 A AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE UPTOWN AREA.
ALL THE, ALL THE HOMES BACK OF UPTOWN.
I THOUGHT THE, THE 14 MEDO HOMES.
I I THOUGHT THAT ROAD WAS RIGHT THERE.
SO THE OTHER ONE IS, THE OTHER ONE IS UPTOWN.
JUST THE GENERAL, WHAT'S, WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT UP THERE? JUST, YEAH, BECAUSE I, I, THE REASON I WANTED TO DO IS I OF A DISTRICT IS IT'S A, IT IS A COMPLETE STARTING, YOU KNOW, EARLY THE FORTIES, BUT THEN THERE'S THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT VERY RECENTLY.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AT THE END OF NAVA HOPI ROAD OR ANYTHING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S JUST A TWO OR THREE BLOCK AREA THAT WOULD BE THE DESIGNATED AREA.
AND JANINE MAY HAVE THOUGHT THE WHOLE AREA, LIKE WHERE JANE RUSSELL'S HOME WAS AND EVERYTHING WOULD NOT BE WHERE I'M CONCERNED.
WHERE WAS THAT? WELL, IT HAD PINK APPLIANCE TOO.
UM, BUT I, BUT I WOULD LIKE, UH, LIKE I SAY, IF YOU GET A CHANCE YEAH.
WHEN YOU, UM, MEA ROAD IS JUST RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST PAST MCDONALD'S, YOU KNOW, I DROVE THAT TODAY AND IT, IT'S A, IT'S JUST A, IT'S LIKE A DEAD END.
IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC, BUT IT GOES UP AND UP AND AROUND.
AND I COUNTED 14 HOMES THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE PRETTY COMPLETE.
UH, THEY WERE VERY RECOGNIZABLE.
OLE HOWARD OLE AND, UH, THE OTHER ONES THERE, THERE ARE OTHERS THAT I, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
IF WE DO A DISTRICT, YOU'D HAVE CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES AND, AND NON-CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES.
AND SO, UM, CALLED THE NAME, YOU EVEN PURSUED NON-CONTIGUOUS DISTRICT BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE OR TWO HOMES IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
THERE IS, THERE IS A HOME UP ON THE CODE OF JOHNNY GUITAR STREET AND, UM, BROKEN ARROW OR SOMETHING UP IN THE SEDONA WEST SUBDIVISION.
AND REMEMBER SHE HAD ALSO A NON CONTINUOUS POSSIBILITY THAT RIGHT.
RIGHT THERE, THERE WERE HOMES, UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF HOMES THAT, THAT WERE NOT JUST MEDO ROAD, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM IN THE AREA, VERY RECOGNIZABLE AND NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH, UH, COPIES.
AND SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, I'VE GOT ONE.
AND, UH, BUT THE THING THAT I WANTED TO DO IS TO MAKE THAT A DISTRICT ON MAD ROAD TO ENCOMPASS ALL OF THOSE.
BUT THAT, OF COURSE, MAY, MAY HAVE A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT WENT NO, NO, NO, NO.
BUT THOSE ARE NO LONGER LEGAL ENTITIES ANYMORE.
UH, PROPERTY ARTS ASSOCIATIONS, THEY, THEY'RE NO LONGER, I DON'T BELIEVE LEGAL HERE ANYMORE.
SO I DON'T KNOW, UH, IT'S SOMETHING TO PURSUE.
IT'S SOMETHING THOSE HOMES ARE, ARE, YOU CAN TELL, AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO DO IT YESTERDAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM BEFORE SOMEBODY DECIDES TO START TEARING THEM DOWN OR ALTERING THEM.
BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO INDIVIDUALLY TAKE A DRIVE UP INTO ROAD AND ESPECIALLY YOU SINCE YOU DO KNOW HIS STYLE AND, UH, SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
AND OF COURSE YOU NEED TO DO TOO MM-HMM
UM, SO DOES THE OTHER TWO WHO NEVER SHOW UP
THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING ON THESE DISTRICTS.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU RECOGNIZE THOSE, SOME OF THOSE HOMES ARE NONCONFORMING RIGHT.
SO YOU COULD, YOU CAN LABEL 'EM DIFFERENT WAYS, I GUESS.
I MEAN, THERE WOULD BE SOME THAT JUST WOULDN'T QUALIFY UNDER, UNDER, UH, PRESERVATION GUIDELINES.
LIKE THEY, THEY'RE NOT 50 YEARS OLD YET OR WHATEVER.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE REASON, OR THE, THE CONDITION LEADS US TO SAY THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UH, TOO FAR GONE OR SOMEBODY'S RENOVATED IT TOO MUCH.
AND SO IT'S A NON-CONTRIBUTING ONE.
UM, SO IT REALLY IS ABOUT, AND THEN THERE THERE COULD BE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WHO SAY, I DON'T WANNA BE PART OF THIS.
WELL, I'M, I DEFINITELY HAVE A TALK WITH JANINE, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE LIKE, UH, 'CAUSE I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
IT'S MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, HELP ME OUT HERE.
AND WE'RE INTERESTED, THE COMMISSION'S INTERESTED IN KIND OF WHERE THIS WAS TAKEN AT, AT AN EARLIER PO POINT AND WHAT WOULD BE THINGS WE LOOK, LOOK FOR MM-HMM
GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
I'LL, I'LL CHECK THE SOCIETY RECORDS AND SEE WHAT, UM, SEE WHAT WE HAVE FROM JANINE'S PREVIOUS EFFORTS TOO.
BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A COUPLE OF THE MEDU HOMES THAT WERE ALTERED BEYOND.
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A COUPLE OF ONES THAT AREN'T EVEN MEDU.SO THEY, BUT THE ONES THAT I FELT WERE, UH, ACCORDING TO HOWARD UL WOULD BE QUALIFIED.
UH, THE REASON I'M THINKING IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MAKE IT AS A DISTRICT WITH NONCONFORMING, BECAUSE IT COVERS 'EM ALL RATHER THAN DOING ONE AT A TIME, UH MM-HMM
AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO THAT IF THERE ARE SOME THAT DON'T WANT TO AND SOME THAT DO, WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS THIS ANSWER IF THERE'S LIKE A, A MINIMUM NUMBER OF STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE THERE TO CREATE A DISTRICT.
OR IS IT JUST LIKE, IF YOU HAVE TWO, YOU'RE LIKE, YEP, THAT'S A DISTRICT OF, OF CONTRIBUTING.
51% OF CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THE NON-CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD TECHNICALLY WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE DISTRICT ANYWAY.
I, SO WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, A DISTRICT CAN BE A BARN.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A WHOLE BUNCH.
IT CAN BE ONE, BUT MAYBE THE PROPERTY AROUND IT, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, THERE'S NO, NO MATTER MY MY EXPERIENCE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FIVE HOMES OR 25 OR SOMETHING.
AND SEE THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT'S WHERE, UH, UPTOWN SEDONA IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY HARD TO DO SINCE I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING, BUT THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT, UH, AGES UP THERE.
I MEAN, I CAN POINT OUT, AND I'M SURE THAT BOB CAN TOO, ONES THAT ARE 1940S, 1950S, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY OBVIOUS, BUT THEN THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY SOMETHING FROM 2010, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
AND I KNOW JANINE PROBABLY DID, BUT IT PROBABLY LIKE, HMM.
I THINK STEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER SE WOULD, UH, WOULD, UM, BE INTERESTED IN THIS TOO, BECAUSE HE'S BEEN TALKING DISTRICTS, UM, QUITE A BIT, UH, RECENTLY.
UM, I, ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, WITH ELKS, UM, SO I CAN, I CAN APPROACH 'EM AND SEE IF THEY'D HAVE ANY INTEREST.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THAT'S INTACT, THAT'S NOT BEEN ALTERED OR CHANGED OR ADDED ON TO, IT'S LIKE IT WAS, AND I, AND THEY HAVE THEIR PLAQUES OUT IN FRONT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM NOT WANTING TO HAVE A PLAQUE IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THEY'VE ALREADY GOT.
UM, I THINK THE, POTENTIALLY THE BIGGEST TICK UP THERE IS THAT IT'S NOT LOCALLY OWNED.
UM, I'LL ELKS CLUBS ARE ACTUALLY, UM, OWNED AND, UH, OPERATED BY THEIR CENTRAL OFFICE IN CHICAGO.
IT'S A FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION.
SO, UH, THE DECISION WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO THERE, PROBABLY.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE UP TO THE LOCALS WHETHER EVEN IF, EVEN IF THE EXALTED LEADER HERE WANTED IT, IT WOULDN'T BE HER CALL, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL GAUGE HER INTEREST IN PURSUING IT.
'CAUSE I, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER FRATERNAL ORDER LODGES IN AROUND THE COUNTRY SURE.
UM, I'VE BEEN FEVERISHLY SEARCHING MY COMPUTER HERE FOR SOME ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND IF I COULD GO REALLY QUICKLY TO THAT, IT INDICATES THE OWNERS OF SEDONA COMMUNITY CEMETERY ASSOCIATION, THAT'S AS, AS MUCH AS, UH, GIS TELLS US.
UM, THE SECOND, UH, BIT OF INFORMATION I'LL LET YOU KNOW IS, UH, I DID, UH, GET THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ON MY SCREEN HERE.
UM, AND THIS IS OUT OF EIGHT POINT SECTION 8.7, WHICH IS, UH, THE, UM, HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION, UH, C OF 8.7.
AND IT INDICATES THAT IF MORE THAN ONE PROPERTY OWNER IS INCLUDED IN A PROPOSED REZONING TO A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WRITTEN CONSENT OF AT LEAST 51% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF RECORD WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPOSED DISTRICT SHALL BE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO IT IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THEY WANNA CONTRIBUTE IT IS 51%, WHATEVER BOUNDARIES YOU DRAW UP OF THAT, EXCUSE ME, OF THAT DISTRICT, AT
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LEAST 51 OF 'EM HAS TO GIVE.51% HAS TO GIVE CONSENT OF ALL MM-HMM
AND THE WORD ZONING'S IN THERE.
SO THIS ACTUALLY WOULD INCORPORATE PLANNING ZONING AS WELL.
I I DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME OF THE, LIKE JOE BEELER'S HOUSE UP THERE, IF WE CAN'T GET A DISTRICT, I WANT THAT HOUSE AND THE OWNER WANTS IT LANDMARKED.
UH, AND I, TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE UP THERE, A LOT OF THEM ARE QUITE EXCITING HAVING THESE OLD, THEY, I, I HAVE A FEELING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET 51%.
BUT, UH, WE NEED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE CEMETERY.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO PURSUE THAT SINCE IT'S SO BADLY MARKED.
I'D LIKE TO GET THAT IF, UH, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THIS, UH, CEMETERY ASSOCIATION IS LOCATED, IF THAT'S, UH, IN CHICAGO OR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE WE, WE KEEP CONTACT WITH WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OVER THERE BECAUSE WE FREQUENTLY GET CALLS, UM, GOOD PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT OUR CEMETERIES, AND WE'RE LIKE, NO, NO, NO, YOU WANT THE, YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO, UM, I CAN RUN THAT DOWN TOO.
WELL, I COULD GO AND TALK TO 'EM OR SOMETHING, BUT IN FACT I THINK I KNOW WHO, WHO I NEED TO TALK TO ABOUT THAT, SO.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY IN A PUBLIC MEETING 'CAUSE I'M NOT 100% SURE.
NO, BUT I I WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
TO ME, THAT'S THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE THE EASIEST TO GET BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ENTAIL HAVE YOU ALTERED A BUILDING OR ANYTHING.
AND, UM, IT, IT'S QUITE, I WAS TELLING BOB THAT COMMISSIONER ROBERT, UM, THAT I SAID WALKING AROUND THAT CEMETERY, I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE BURIED.
SO IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THIS VERY IMPORTANT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, THIS IS THE CHARTER WORK OF OUR, THIS IS RIGHT THAT PERHAPS, UH, WE PUT ON AN AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING OR THE FOLLOWING MEETING, UH, WHERE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS BRING IN THEIR IDEAS FOR WHAT NEEDS TO BE LANDMARKED.
AND THE DISCUSSION REALLY NEEDS TO BE HAD BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE DIRECTION OF THAT PRIORITIZING AND RIGHT.
AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION.
BUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COMMISSIONERS NEED TO DISCUSS AMONGST YOURSELF WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT BUDGETARY WISE, WE DID TALK PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, COMMISSIONER STUPAC AND COMMISSIONER WOODS, YOU WERE NOT A PART OF THOSE MEETINGS RIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD.
UM, BUT IT WAS IDENTIFIED, UH, TO BUDGET FOR TWO LANDMARKS PER YEAR.
UM, 'CAUSE IT DOES CREATE COSTS OF, UM, THE
AND, AND SO ANYWAY, JUST, JUST SO YOUR UNDERSTANDING, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULDN'T DO THIS WHOLE LIST, UH, JUST SOLELY BASED UPON CURRENT BUDGETARY CONFINEMENT.
NO, I DO REMEMBER I WAS AT THE MEETING, OH, I'M SORRY.
I WASN'T A MEMBER AT THE TIME, BUT I THOUGHT THESE AREN'T GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
SO I'M POINTING OUT TOO THAT WE CAN DO, BUT I DEFINITELY, UM, KNOW THAT WE ARE UNDER, UH, THE, UH, CONSTRAINT WE'VE GOT TO PRODUCE BECAUSE IT WASN'T MM-HMM
AND I WOULD, AND SO THIS IS THE START AND I WANT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ABSOLUTELY.
TO START SOME LISTS AND THINGS SO WE CAN, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ON A YEAR PROBATION AND I DO NOT WANNA SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS HERE WE NEED TO DO.
AND IF WE ONLY DO TWO A YEAR, OKAY, HERE'S
AND, AND IF, IF YOU ALLOW ME, UM, TWO IS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, TWO IS WHAT IS BUDGETED FOR BUDGETS ARE GUESSTIMATIONS MM-HMM
SO AT SOME POINT IN TIME, UH, IF WE'VE GOT TWO UNDER OUR BELTS AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LINE ON ANOTHER ONE AND THERE'S STILL MONEY LEFT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE AT THAT POINT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.
NO, I WOULD BE HAPPY IF WE GET TWO OF THESE DONE.
I THINK IT'S GREAT IF, IF THE, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE HERE COME UP WITH SOME LISTS, YOU PROBABLY KNOW SOME.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON THAT HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT.
I DON'T, I'M NOT THAT TIED INTO
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THAT.BUT I'LL, I'LL, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
I WANNA, I WANNA GET TIED INTO IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE ALL THEIR LIFE THAT DO KNOW OF SOME, AND, UH, IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SEE US STARTING TO GET THE LANDMARKS GOING SO WE DON'T LOSE THIS COMMISSION.
CAN I ASK A, A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT SUNSET VILLAGE? UM, ARE YOU THINKING OF THAT AS A DISTRICT? ARE YOU THINKING OF THAT AS LIKE THE CLUBHOUSE OR, OR THAT'S, THAT'S WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD DISCUSS.
I DID TALK TO THE MANAGER AND HE SAID, OF COURSE THEY'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE OWNERS.
AND I KNOW THE OWNERS, BECAUSE I DON'T, THEY'RE NOT PERSONAL FRIENDS, I JUST KNOW THEM.
UH, THEY, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE KIND OF LIKE, I'M OKAY, BUT I DON'T, THE THING I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SUNSET VILLAGE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT QUALIFIES BECAUSE THERE'S SO FEW LEFT OF THE ORIGINALS.
THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A HANDFUL, WHETHER THAT WOULD, OR IS THIS ONE YOU PUT, WHICH WE CAN'T DO JUST A LOCATION MM-HMM
THIS WAS, BUT I KNOW THE CLUBHOUSE WOULD'VE BEEN BUILT LATER AND THAT 1971 MAP WE HAVE IN THE MUSEUM, IT'S NOT THERE.
SO IT MAY, IT IS ON THERE BECAUSE IT WAS STARTED IN 59 OR 60, BUT IT MAY NOT.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE GROUP WHEN WE GET THE VEHICLE AND THE, AND THE WHOLE COMMISSION GOES ON THAT TOUR AROUND DRIVE THROUGH AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL THINK.
AND, UH, THAT'S THE SORT OF, THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAME TO MIND.
THERE'S OTHER ONES, UH, ONE THAT IS ON THE LAST SURVEY WAS RAINBOW RAY FOCUS, VERY LITTLE, UH, ON THE, THE, UH, SURVEY.
AND YET RAINBOW RAY FOCUS ON AIRPORT ROAD.
HE WAS THE FIRST NEW AGE GUY HERE BACK IN THE 19, LATE FIFTIES, SIXTIES, FIFTIES.
HE GOES WAY BACK AND I'D LOVE TO SEE HIS PLACE LANDMARKED.
GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY THERE.
BUT, UH, I DID NOT PUT IT ON 'CAUSE IT IS ALREADY ON THE LAST SURVEY, BUT NOT VERY MUCH INFORMATION.
SO I CAN GET MORE THAN THAT, SO.
ANY STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS CAN'T BE UH, CORRECT.
OUR PURVIEW IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO IF THERE WAS COO COUNTY JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WE DON'T TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO LIKE ANYTHING UP THE CANYON GOTCHA.
AND SPRING CREEK RANCH AND SPRING CREEK RANCH, PEACH SPRINGS, ALL THAT, THERE'S BUNCH OF STUFF OUT THERE THAT IT'S NICE TO KNOW ABOUT THEM, BUT NEITHER COTTONWOOD OR FLAGSTAFF HAVE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCES.
NONE OF THEM PRESCOTT'S TERRIBLE.
THEY HAD TO GO WITH YOU WITH THE, UH, NATIONAL HISTORIC, THEY COULDN'T, THEY HAVE NOTHING.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT ARIANA SAID TO ME WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST SUMMER, LAST FALL, SHE SAID SEDONA IS ONE OF THE SHINING STARS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE STATE.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, KAREN.
COMMISSIONER STUPAC, I SHOULD SAY
UM, FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. UM, NEXT MEETING IS MONDAY, MARCH 10TH.
UH, WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE KURT HERE.
UH, I THINK A, A GOOD HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR ALL OF US TO BRING SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS.
UM, UH, LIKE KAREN DID HERE IS GOOD.
I THINK IF WE HAVE A, A ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH EVERYBODY HERE, UM, I'LL HAVE A CHAT WITH STEVE AND IF HE'S COOL WITH THE, WITH THE VICE CHAIR, WE'LL LEAVE IT AND IF NOT, WE'LL DO A NEW ELECTION
UM, SO BY THEN I'LL, I'LL KNOW FROM YOU WHETHER OR NOT TO INCLUDE IT IN THE, THE NEXT AGENDA.
I DON'T KNOW IF I GET AN ANSWER FROM HIM TONIGHT, BUT I'LL TEXT HIM WHEN WE'RE DONE HERE.
UM, ANYTHING, WE WILL GET AN UPDATE, FIND OUT ARIANA'S SCHEDULE AND GET SOMETHING BOOKED THERE.
I HAVE, UH, ALREADY ON MY LIST, UH, TABLING THE TRAINING, UH, THAT WE DID.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TONIGHT, UM, GETTING HOLD OF ARIANA, GETTING LOOKING AT HER SCHEDULE WHEN WE CAN FIT HER INTO OUR MEETINGS.
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OF THE MODEL, RIGBY DISCUSSION IF JACK IS BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING MM-HMMUM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL LET ME KNOW ABOUT COMMISSIONER SE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE AND MARKING.
AND THEN, UM, IF I COULD ALSO, UM, UH, HAVE THE COMMISSION INDULGE ME IN, IN DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE UPCOMING WANT OF WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER STUPAC WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, FIELD TRIP, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND WHAT THE COMMISSION IS EXPECTING, UM, TO SEE.
UM, BECAUSE MUCH OF THAT WILL HAVE TO GET SET UP BY MYSELF, BY STAFF, UM, AND THAT, UH, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT, UM, FOR TRAINING BEYOND, UH, THE NORMAL, UH, TRAINING, WHETHER IT BE BY OUR ATTORNEY OR BY A ADRIANA.
SO WOULD YOU BE LOOKING TO INCORPORATE TRAINING AS A PART OF THIS FIELD TRIP? AND SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE SO THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW BEST THAT AS SET YOU WANT THAT DISCUSSION NEXT TIME? UM, WELL, NOT, I, I WOULDN'T MIND SOME, SOME, UH, SOME GUIDANCE BEFORE, SOME GUIDANCE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS TO SET UP TRANSPORTATION OR TO, UM, INCLUDE CERTAIN PEOPLE.
UH, PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, TRANSPORTATION MIGHT BE EASIER TO OBTAIN, UM, WAITING UNTIL AFTER APRIL ANYWAY.
UH, WHEN THINGS SLOW DOWN AND SOME MORE BUSES ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, BEFORE KAREN WAS ON THE COMMISSION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A TOUR TO VIEW SOME THINGS THAT ARE POTENTIAL LANDMARKS.
I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK, UM, REVIEWING THE LANDMARKED PROPERTIES, UH, JUST HITTING ALL THE LANDMARKED PROPERTIES AS IS.
I, I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO ALL OF THEM YET MM-HMM
UM, AND SO THAT COULD BE ONE THING AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GET EYES, UH, ON HIM AS WELL.
AND DO OUR DUTY, UH, TO, TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND ENSURE THE, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THOSE LANDMARK PROPERTIES AS WELL.
UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE START WITH THIS.
UM, YEAH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND APRIL WAS THE ONE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SE MENTIONED ABOUT APRIL, WHICH IS WHY I MENTIONED IT.
BUT THE THING THAT, WHAT GOT ME THINKING WAS WHEN COMMISSIONER MYERS SAID, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE SOME OF THESE ARE
AND I THINK I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT PROBABLY KNOWS WHERE ALL THE BONES ARE BURIED.
BUT, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT I'D LIKE TO SHOW THEM.
AND THERE'S ONE, ONE I REALLY AM A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THAT IS LANDMARKED.
BUT THERE'S A LOT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THEM ALL IN ONE TIME, UH, BECAUSE IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A SMALL CITY UNTIL YOU'RE GOING AROUND LOOKING AT THESE, IT'S NOT.
ANOTHER REASON TO MAYBE DO IT IN, IN, UH, ONE OF THE SLOWER TOURISM MONTHS TOO, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC GETTING FROM ONE END OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER IS, UH, WOULD BE A LITTLE EASIER AND IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON, WE COULD DO ONE BECAUSE SOME, SOME PARTS OF THE TR OF THE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE.
LIKE 1 79, WE COULD DO MORE THAN ONES ON 89 A THAT WOULD BE, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY DIVIDE IT UP INTO SECTIONS.
UH, 'CAUSE REALLY TO DO ALL, ALL OF THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN LANDMARKED, YOU CAN'T DO IT IN A COUPLE HOURS.
YOU JUST CAN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA WANNA STOP AND LOOK, MAYBE GET OUT AND WALK AROUND.
AND SO, UH, I I'M, I, I KNOW WHERE THEY, LIKE I SAY I KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, BUT I WANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE BEING COMFORTABLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.
SO, UH, THERE'S 22 THANK YOU
IT'S GONNA BE, YOU CAN ALMOST LIKE SAY, OKAY, HOW MANY CAN WE DO IN A DAY, THREE OR FOUR? I DON'T, I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT PRETTY QUICK.
I THINK IT'D TAKE A LOT OF DAYS TO COVER ALL OF THEM.
MAYBE WE PICK SOME OUT THAT SEEM TO HAVE MORE SIGNIFICANCE FOR SOME REASON, TO GET A GENERAL FEEL.
SO WE GET ALL, GET A GENERAL FEEL.
AND THEN WE, WE CAN ALSO ON OUR OWN, UH, RUN OUT AND GRAB A FEW, YOU KNOW, AS WE, WHEN HAVE TIME, AN HOUR HERE OR THERE WHEN YOU'RE BETWEEN YOUR OTHER WORK.
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ARE, THERE ARE ALSO, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.UM, THERE ARE ALSO SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET OUR EYES ON IMMEDIATELY, LIKE THE, THE CHAPEL, RIGHT.
LIKE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE CHAPEL.
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE CHAPEL.
WELL, AND UM, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME COMMISSIONERS ARE IN AND OUT OF THE, UH, SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM, JORDAN BUILDINGS, UH, PRETTY REGULARLY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RANGER STATION, UH, CITY'S GOT THEIR EYES ON THAT, UH, LITERALLY CONSTANTLY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ONES LIKE THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PRIORITIZE OTHERS, UH, TO MAKE MORE EFFICIENT USE OF OUR TIME.
WELL, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A, SOME LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE GAS AWAY, THE WOODCOCK HOUSE, UH, THERE'S ONE THAT'S LANDMARK THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT IT WAS DONE BY THE OWNER.
UH, THERE'S PLACES THAT I CAN THROW THESE NAMES OUT.
YOU'RE GOING, HUH? BUT YES, THE ONES WE JUST MENTIONED, WE ALL KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THEM TO LOCKA, POCKE CHAPEL TO LOCKY, PAE, PLACES LIKE THAT.
THERE'S PROBABLY A DOZEN THAT WE WOULD GO ON THAT LIST.
AND I BET LOOKING AT THAT LIST, YOU PROBABLY KNOW A BUNCH OF THEM TOO.
BUT DEFINITELY SOMEBODY OUGHT TO BE KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD ON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SEE, WE NEED TO SEE SIX OF THOSE, THAT THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO IN A DAY.
AND THEN WE GET ANOTHER DAY TO DO SIX OR SOMETHING.
SOMEBODY TAKE THE LEAD AND MARCH THOSE OFF AND THEN LET, LET EVERYBODY KIBBITZ ON SAY, NOW WE DON'T NEED TO GO THERE 'CAUSE WE'VE ALL SEEN IT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM
I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE, WHERE THEY ALL ARE.
AND I, LIKE I SAY, THERE'S SOME, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHERE SOME OF THEM ARE AND, UM, WE CAN DO THE TOWN IN SECTIONS AS WELL MM-HMM
WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, GET 'EM CLOSE TOGETHER.
WELL, WELL, LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE MIGHT WANNA DO IS DRIVE MEDO ROAD DRIVE UPTOWN UP AND DOWN THE, THE SECTION THERE, WHICH ARE NOT LANDMARKED, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSED.
UH, GO TO THE SEDONA CEMETERY.
BUT THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY LANDMARKED, LIKE I JUST MENTIONED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONDITIONS SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE, I THINK WE LET GO, WE NEED TO GET EYES ON SOME OF YEAH.
AND THOSE ARE UP, UH, SCHLEY HILL ROAD.
ANOTHER ITEM YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SINCE YOUR CONFERENCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN MAY THIS YEAR.
THAT'S ALSO HP PRESERVATION MONTH.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONFERENCE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PLAN LOCALLY, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO TIE UP ALL OF YOUR TIME WITHOUT SEEING WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THAT.
WELL, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT, UM, IT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD TO THROW IT OUT OF THE MEETING, BUT THE ACTUAL PRACTICAL, IT, IT COMES DOWN TO TIME AND, UH, OPPORTUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S I THINK COMMISSIONER WOOD SIX AT A TIME.
I WOULD, I WOULD GO START WITH ONE DAY AND PICK THE, THE MO THE MOST IMPORTANT MM-HMM
THAT SORT OF CAN, ARE CLOSER TOGETHER AND NEEDS TO GET TO OR WHATEVER, WHAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON.
AND THEN WE'LL TRY IT ONCE AND THEN WE'LL GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
YOU, IT'D BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO HANG WITH EACH OTHER FOR A WHILE AND ASK, WE CAN GET A LOT OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS GOING TOO.
NOW I BELIEVE IF WE TAKE THE WHOLE COMMISSION, YOU AND DONNA HAVE TO GO AS WELL.
ISN'T THAT CORRECT? TRUE, TRUE MEETING.
SO I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD JUST DISCUSS, UM, HOW OR WHEN TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
'CAUSE REALLY THIS, THIS, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE, UM, WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE FILLING UP, WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'RE KIND OF GOING BEYOND WHAT WE'RE WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT REALLY, WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING WHAT TO PUT ON AN AGENDA AND WHEN NOW, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I DID WANNA HAVE A DISCUSS AGENDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER AT A MEETING.
UM, ALSO THINGS SUCH AS ARE YOU LOOKING TO GET ON THE PROPERTIES, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GET AHOLD OF, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND GAIN THEIR APPROVAL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST HOPING THAT WE COULD AGENDIZE THIS AT SOME POINT, WHETHER IT'S THE NEXT MEETING OR THE FOLLOWING MEETING, UH, TO DISCUSS, UH, FURTHER, UH, AND THEN GIVE YOURSELVES DIRECTION AND ME DIRECTION.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT.
UH, I, I WANT, I JUST WANT THE, UH, AS YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO BE AWARE OF WHERE EVERYTHING IS PROPOSED AND EXISTING
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SO THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN SITES, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH DURING THIS YEAR.THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? UM, I'D LIKE US TO SAY FLEXIBLE.
I KNOW THAT TOMORROW, UH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RANGER STATION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO STAY NIMBLE AND BE ABLE TO REACT TO THAT.
IF WE NEED TO AGENDIZE ANYTHING IN THE WAKE OF THAT MEETING, I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE SHOULD HAVE TO.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THE, THE DISCUSSION TOMORROW IS ABOUT, UH, DIRECTIONS FOR INTERIOR RENOVATIONS, WHICH ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY ON OUR, UM, UH, IN OUR PURVIEW, UH, INTERIORS OF THE BUILDINGS.
BUT, UM, JUST IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP, I WANNA BE ABLE TO REACT TO THAT IF WE NEED TO.
SO YOU PLAN TO BE AT THAT MEETING? YES.
I CAN BE THERE TOO IF YOU WANT.
WHAT TIME IS IT? I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I'M USED TO, WE NEED TO GET CURTAIN HERE.
THE PUB, THE COUNCIL MEETING'S 4 34.
YEAH, THAT'S, I SAY THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD.
NO, MY, THE ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
DO I WANT YOU THERE? IS WHAT? I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER FULL AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING AND MAYBE WE'LL ACTUALLY DO EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S OVERRATED GETTING STUFF DONE.
I DO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
SORRY, THE DAY DAY GOT AWAY FROM ME.
I I TOLD HIM, I SAID HE'S GONNA BE LATE
UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNLESS I'M VERY WRONG AND KURT SHOWS BACK UP.
UM, AND SO WE WILL ADJOURN AT, UH, 5 0 7 OFFICIAL VERIZON TIME.