* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. GOOD [1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE] AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. OKAY. WE'LL CALL THE, UH, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 25TH MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BEATEN JUDGE. OH, REALLY? AND JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK. WOULD, [2. ROLL CALL] DEPUTY CLERK, WOULD YOU READ THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR BLO. HERE. VICE MAYOR PLU. PRESENT. COUNCILOR DUNN. HERE. COUNCILOR FOLTZ IS ABSENT AND EXCUSED. MM-HMM . COUNCILOR FURMAN. PRESENT. COUNCILOR KINSELLA? HERE. COUNCILOR FAF. PRESENT. OKAY. ITEM THREE, [3.a. AB 3225 Presentation/discussion/possible direction regarding the transit program update and services, including ridership, grant funding, the Sedona Transit Implementation Plan, and capital planning efforts including the proposed Transit Operations and Maintenance Facility.] SPECIAL BUSINESS A IS AB 32 25. PRESENTATION. DISCUSSION, UH, POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE TRANSIT PROGRAM, UPDATE AND SERVICES, INCLUDING RIDERSHIP GRANT FUNDING, THE SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, CAPITAL PLANNING EFFORTS, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY. AMBER, WELCOME TODAY, ALL, ALL BY YOURSELF. I AM, I'M SURE YOU CAN HANDLE IT AND KNOCK OUTTA THE PARK. . WELL, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNSELORS. I'M AMBER WEGNER, THE TRANSIT ADMINISTRATOR HERE. UH, TODAY I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR TRANSIT PROGRAM, KIND OF WHERE OUR PROGRESS IS, OUR CURRENT PERFORMANCE, WHAT LIES AHEAD, AND HOW THIS WORK AND OUR PROGRAM DIRECTLY SUPPORTS THE SEDONA IN MOTION INITIATIVE, AS WELL AS WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AT WITH OUR SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. I JUST WANNA START BY REVEALING WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING OVER AND DISCUSSING TODAY. UH, FIRST WE'LL REVISIT KIND OF THE FOUNDATION, OUR SEDONA IN MOTION AND OUR TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND HOW IT SHAPED TODAY'S SERVICES. THEN WE'LL KIND WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR PROGRESS, WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED VERSUS WHAT WE'VE PLANNED AND, UH, WHAT WAS LAID OUT IN THE THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. NEXT, WE'LL LOOK AT OUR, OUR CURRENT PERFORMANCE OF OUR SERVICES, UH, KIND OF WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE TELLING US, AND WE'LL ALSO REVIEW WHAT'S ON OUR HORIZON, INCLUDING ROUTES AND STUDIES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. AND FINALLY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR NEEDS, UH, OUR FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE, FUNDING STRATEGIES, PARTNERSHIPS TO CARRY US FORWARD. I GUESS LET'S START AT THE BEGINNING AND, UH, WHERE OUR COMMUNITY'S VISION STARTED IN REGARDS TO OUR TRANSIT PROGRAM. UH, THE ROOTS OF OUR PROGRAM STARTED WITH, UH, THE 2018 SEDONA AND MOTION PLAN REFERRED TO SIM. UH, AND IT WAS OUR RESPONSE TO A GROWING CALL FROM OUR COMMUNITY. UH, WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS, UH, REAL SOLUTIONS FOR VISITOR IMPACTS, TRAFFIC, SAFETY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. UH, THESE CONVERSATIONS, OUT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS CAME SOME CLEAR GOALS, AND THEY WERE TO REDUCE CONGESTION ON OUR KEY ROADS, IMPROVE MOBILITY FOR EVERYONE, RESIDENTS, WORKERS, AND THOSE VISITING OUR COMMUNITY, AND TO MAKE SEDONA SAFER AND MORE CONNECTED AND DO IT ALL IN A WAY THAT PRESERVES AND PROTECTS OUR ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO OUR SMALL TOWN CHARACTER. NEXT IS OUR STIP, WHICH IS THE SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. AND THAT CAME NEXT IN 2020, AND IT TRANSLATED THOSE BROAD GOALS INTO ACTIONABLE STEPS, UH, TO CREATE TRANSIT. AND IT WAS PHASED OVER 10 YEARS, AND WE'VE CONTINUED BUILDING ON THAT FOUNDATION WITH THE 2021 CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. AND THE 2024 RECENTLY ADOPTED SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH EMPHASIZED THE SAME THING. UH, THE TRANSIT ISN'T JUST NICE TO HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NEEDED TO HELP US REACH THESE GOALS. SO WITH THE FOUNDATION IN PLACE WITH THOSE FOUR PLANS, LET'S EXPLORE THE STRUCTURE OF THE ACTION PLAN. OUR STEP, WHICH IS THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. UH, IT OUTLINED A 10 YEAR ROADMAP FOR US TO IMPLEMENT TRANSIT IN SEDONA. UH, IT WAS A FOUR PHASE PLAN, WHICH INCLUDED CORE [00:05:01] FIXED ROUTE SERVICES, TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES, A DA, DEMAND RESPONSE SERVICES, AND REGIONAL EXPRESS CONNECTIONS. EACH PHASE, UH, WAS FLEXIBLE, ADAPTABLE, DEPENDING ON FUNDING, PARTNERSHIPS, AND COMMUNITY NEED. SO THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. THE, THE DOCUMENT AND THE PLAN ITSELF IS ABOUT 300 AND SOME PAGES. UH, IT WAS LINKED IN THE, THE AGENDA BILL. UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN OUTLINE OF THE PLAN, STARTING WITH THE FIRST FEW YEARS, UH, WHICH WAS LAYING THE GROUNDWORK, THE FOCUS ON PLANNING LAND ACQUISITION AND DESIGN WORK. THEN NEXT TO PHASE ONE, WHICH WAS, UH, LAUNCHING KEY SERVICES, UH, INTRODUCING SOME TRAILHEAD AND THOSE CORE TRANSIT ROUTES. LATER PHASES FOR PHASE TWO THROUGH FOUR WERE THROUGH YEAR SIX THROUGH 10, AND YEAR SIX THROUGH SEVEN, WE WERE TO ADD ADDITIONAL TRAILHEAD ACCESS AND THEN GO FORTH, AND THEN LOOK AT OUR REGIONAL CONNECTORS, OUR VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK AND OAK CREEK CANYON ROLLOUT, ALONG WITH INTERCEPT LOTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THOSE SERVICES. AND LAST, UH, WAS THE SLIDE ROCK EXPRESS, UH, WHICH WAS IN YEARS EIGHT THROUGH 10. UH, PLANS, UH, ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THEIR FLEXIBILITY. AND, UH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PROGRESS AND WHERE WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST, UH, BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES DUE TO TIMING, FUNDING, RESOURCE AVAILABILITY, AND COMMUNITY PRIORITY AND NEED THIS, UH, THIS KIND OF LAYS OUT THOSE PHASES AND, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT ADJUSTMENTS WE'VE MADE SO FAR AS WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SERVICES. UH, WE LAUNCHED THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE SERVICES EARLY. UH, IT WAS LAUNCHED IN 22, UH, DUE TO CHALLENGES WE SAW IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH ILLEGAL PARKING AND WANTING TO, UH, CREATE A SUSTAINABLE APPROACH TO ALLEVIATING THESE PROBLEMS AND PROVIDE SOME SUSTAINABLE ACCESS TO OUR TRAILS. DURING THE TRAILHEAD ROLLOUT, WE WERE ALSO GONNA ROLL OUT OUR CONNECT SERVICE. UH, BUT THAT WAS DELAYED DUE TO PROCUREMENT ISSUES AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. IT WAS AN INDUSTRY-WIDE THING THAT WE, IT JUST TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET THOSE VEHICLES AND THOSE, THAT SERVICE LAUNCHED IN AUGUST, JUST THIS LAST PAST FALL. UH, AND LASTLY, OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CENTER, UH, WHICH WAS TO BE DEVELOPED IN THOSE INITIAL GROUNDWORK YEARS. THE DESIGN, UH, WE JUST KICKED OFF THE DESIGN THIS YEAR IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, BUT THAT WAS DUE TO SOME FUNDING CRITERIA THAT WE HAD TO MEET. WE HAD TO DO A PRE-SITE SELECTION, PRELIMINARY DESIGN, AND NEPA PRIOR TO THE GRANT AWARD FOR THE DESIGN WORK, WHICH HAS JUST BEEN JUST, WE KICKED IT OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. SO DESPITE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, I GUESS WE'VE ACHIEVED SOME SIGNIFICANT MILESTONES SINCE THE INITIAL IMPLEMENTATION IN 22. AND, UH, WE'VE SEEN A GREAT SUCCESS WITH OUR MOST VISIBLE SERVICE, WHICH IS THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE. AND THIS WAS LAUNCHED, UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT INDIRECT RESPONSE TO THOSE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND NEIGHBORHOOD DISRUPTIONS DUE TO THOSE PARKING AND ILLEGAL PARKING ISSUES THAT WE SAW IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND AROUND OUR POPULAR TRAIL HEADS. UH, AND IT'S MADE A CLEAR DIFFERENCE SINCE WE IMPLEMENTED THE SERVICE. UH, IT WAS CREATED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FOREST SERVICE, AND IT HAS FOUR ROUTES, UH, AT THREE PARK AND RIDE LOTS, UH, SERVING POPULAR TRAILHEAD. AND WE REACHED A REALLY SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE, WHICH WAS A MILLION BOARDINGS IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE, KIND OF THE, THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE OUR ROUTES RUNNING. WE HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO FIVE TRAIL HEADS FROM THREE PARK AND RIDE LOTS. THEY'RE LISTED HERE, RANKED IN ORDER OF UTILIZATION. OUR, OUR, OUR, THE, THE LOT THAT WE SEE HAS THE MOST USAGE IS OUR BOW STRING, OUR 1 79 PARK AND RIDE LOT, AND THAT HAS THE CATHEDRAL AND LITTLE HORSE ROCK RUNNING OUT OF IT. SO AT OUR LAST SIM UPDATE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE, THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE A POPULAR OPTION FOR THOSE THAT VISIT AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHO WANNA ACCESS THE TRAILS. OUR RIDERSHIP CONTINUES TO TREND UPWARD. UH, OUR YEAR TO DATE BOARDINGS ARE AT ABOUT THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR, FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN. UH, AND WE'RE ABOUT 3.2% OVER, UH, WHERE WE WERE AT LAST YEAR, IN FISCAL [00:10:01] YEAR 24. AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT IT THOUGH, FROM OUR FIRST FULL YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION IN FISCAL YEAR 23, WE'RE UP ABOUT 19.2%. UH, CATHEDRAL ROCK AND LITTLE HORSE, AS I SAID BEFORE, CONSISTENTLY LEAD IN OUR UTILIZATION IN OUR BOARDINGS, FOLLOWED BY SOLDIERS PASS, UH, WHICH OPERATES OUT OF POSSE GROUND PARK, OUR DRY CREEK VISTA AND MEZCAL, WHICH OPERATE OUT OF OUR WEST SEDONA LOT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE DRY CREEK VISTA RUN THAT GOES OUT OF POSSE GROUND. THEY'RE RANKED IN ORDER OF WHAT WE SEE WITH UTILIZATION IN OUR BOARDINGS. AMBER? YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THEN KATHY, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, AMBER, JUST LOOKING AT THAT CHART, FY 25 HAD FOR THE FIRST TIME, HAD A COUPLE OF DROPS IN, UH, RIDERSHIP ORDER, SHIP, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THAT IN JUST A COUPLE PLACES. IS THAT JUST PART OF, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, NORMAL VARIATION AT THIS POINT? OR DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO ANYTHING SPECIFIC? I THINK A LOT OF IT AS I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS NOW AND JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT OUR PAST RIDERSHIP DATA AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PROJECTORS LIKE SALES TAX AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT KIND OF, IT, IT, IT GOES A KIND OF TREND AND CYCLICAL WITH THAT. UM, I THINK A LOT OF IT IS WEATHER DEPENDENT. IT JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS TO INCLUDE. I I THINK WE'RE STILL, WHILE WE HAD SOME MONTHS THAT WERE LOWER, UH, PREVIOUSLY BEFORE I STARTED OUR MARCH AND APRIL, WERE, WERE RELATIVELY STRONG. YEAH. UH, OUR MAY WAS DECREASED A LITTLE BIT, I BELIEVE. YEAH. FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR AND TAKING A LOOK AT IT, I THINK IT JUST A LOT OF WEATHER RELATED ITEMS THAT I DON'T REALLY UNDER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE AT PREVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S KIND OF A SEASONALITY TOO, OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE SEEING INTO THE AREA. THANK YOU. I HAD HAD THE SAME QUESTION. , WE GOOD? I'M GOOD. AMBER, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG OR DO YOU WANT TO I, I'M FINE EITHER WAY. OKAY. I, I'M, I'M FLEXIBLE. OKAY. SO IF, IF IT LIKE A GOOD PLAN, WHAT, LIKE A GOOD PLAN? YOU SAID GOOD PLAN IS FLEXIBLE. YEAH, IT'S FLEXIBLE. I'M FLEXIBLE AS WELL. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO, WHILE OUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE ADDRESSED OUR VISITOR AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ON TRAILHEAD ACCESS, UH, THERE'S ALSO A RECOGNIZED NEED FOR DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, TRANSIT AND MOBILITY THAT'S MORE FLEXIBLE, MORE RESONANT FOCUSED, KIND OF FOCUSED ON THOSE DAY-TO-DAY TRIPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, TO HELP US WORK TOWARDS A GOAL OF DECREASING VEHICLE TRIPS ON SEDONA ROADWAYS. AND THAT IS WHERE OUR CONNECT SERVICE, WHICH IS OUR MICRO TRANSIT ON DEMAND SERVICE, WHICH JUST LAUNCHED THIS AUGUST, KIND OF PLAYS THAT ROLE TO, TO BRIDGE THAT GAP. ALSO, IT MET A REAL CRITICAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND A GAP THAT HADN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF HAVING A TRANSIT OP OPTION FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE CARS OR WANTED, WANTED TO, UH, UTILIZE IT FOR TRIPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. UM, WE'VE SEEN AND DELIVERED OVER 13,305 TRIPS SINCE THE INITIAL LAUNCH, UH, ARE ON TIME PERFORMANCE IS ABOUT 85%. WOW. AND, UH, WITH SHARED RIDES AND TARGETED OUTREACH, WE'RE SEEING, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR LODGING COUNCIL, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND, UH, IT'S BECOMING A PRETTY VITAL PART OF, UH, OUR, OUR MOBILITY OPTIONS HERE IN SEDONA. GOOD, GOOD. THE OUT THE OUTREACH THAT YOU'RE DOING, UM, YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING TO THE HOTELS AND EVERYTHING, BUT ARE YOU TALKING TO LIKE THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY AND PEOP YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONSTITUENCIES OF THEIR OWN TO SPREAD THE WORD SO THAT OUR LOCALS CAN GET THIS INFORMATION? WELL, I WASN'T HERE WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL LAUNCH. UH, THERE WAS SOME BROAD RESIDENTIAL OUTREACH AT THE BEGINNING. AND, UH, WE ARE WORKING ON LAUNCHING KIND OF A RESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND DISCUSSING WITH OUR MARKETING COMMITTEE. AND, UH, BUT WE'VE TALKED TO ORGANI, LIKE THE COMMUNITY CENTER HAS BEEN, THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US, THEIR MATERIALS, UH, WERE RUN OUT AND, UH, WE PROVIDED THEM, WE DID A FREE RIDE CAMPAIGN THAT WE JUST, WE JUST IMPLEMENTED, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE AND, UH, GAVE THEM SOME COUPONS. BUT WE'RE REALLY GONNA FOCUS ON THIS KIND OF LOCAL DINING NIGHT OUT TO GET PEOPLE OUT. EXCELLENT. UTILIZING THE SERVICE, WE'VE EXTENDED OUR EVENING HOURS, UH, THROUGH LABOR DAY, UH, JUST IN HOPES TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON THE, ON THE SYSTEM. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAG ONTO YOU, KATHY, I THINK IT MIGHT NOT BE GOOD TO PUSH TOO MUCH FOR NOW FOR THE, UH, UH, CHURCHES AND TEMPLE, [00:15:01] BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE SYSTEM. THEY'RE BELOW THE SYSTEM. THAT'S ONLY THE ONES IN CHAPEL. WE HAVE CHURCHES, WELL, IT'S ALL OVER SEDONA, BUT WE HAVE THE BULK OF THEM. SO, AND IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD REACH OUT TO, UH, ST. ANDREWS AND THOSE THAT WOULD BE, OF COURSE, GREAT AT ST. JOHN ANI. I, I GET THAT. BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE SOME, WE, WE ARE NOT SERVICED FOR NOW THEY UNDERSTAND. BUT THERE IS, THERE IS MANY CHURCHES WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA, OF COURSE, WITHOUT POTENTIALLY MORE, OF COURSE, BUT, AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE IN THE CHAPEL ARE WAITING PATIENTLY FOR THE SERVICE. I PITCHED FIRST AND THEN, UH, VICE MAYOR AND, UH, MELISSA, VICE MAYOR AMBER, I I THINK I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION IN THE PAST, BUT I WANTED TO DRILL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE SHARED RIDE. THE DEFINITION OF ASSURE ROD, IF THE SHUTTLE SHOWED UP TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, TWO PEOPLE GOT ON, WENT TO A RESTAURANT, TWO PEOPLE GOT OFF. SO IS THAT A SHARED RIDE? NO. A SHARED RIDE IS WHEN YOU PICK UP AN INDIVIDUAL AT ONE LOCATION, THEN YOU GO AND PICK UP ANOTHER RESIDENT AT ANOTHER LOCATION. GREAT. AND THEY SHARE THAT TRIP. EITHER THEY GET DROPPED OFF AT ANOTHER LOCATION OR THEY GET DROPPED OFF AT THE SAME LOCATION, OR IT'S IN THE SAME GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. GREAT. I HAD MISUNDERSTOOD THAT BEFORE. THAT'S IT. MM-HMM . THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IS THAT, YOU SAID ONE OR TWO WHAT? ONE OR TWO STOPS? YEAH, FOR IT COULD BE IT, IT'S IF YOU'RE BLENDING TWO TR TWO TRIPS THAT PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED, SAY I PICK SOMEBODY UP TO GO TO WHOLE FOODS, BUT ON THE WAY TO WHOLE FOODS, I PICK UP ANOTHER TRIP THAT NEEDS TO GO TO SAY, UPTOWN. THEY'RE SHARING THAT TRIP, OR A PORTION OF IT. WELL, WHAT ABOUT HUSBAND AND WIFE GET ON TOGETHER AND THEN THEY GET OFF TOGETHER? IS THAT, THAT IS ONE TRIP. OKAY. MM-HMM . I, OKAY. UH, VICE MAYOR AND THEN MELISSA. SO I THINK I ASKED YOU THIS THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE ABOUT WHAT ARE WE MEASURING OUR SUCCESS AGAINST? YOU KNOW, UH, AND I RECALL THAT ROBERT, 'CAUSE I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION FOR THE REGULAR SHUTTLE. HE WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO US ABOUT HOW WE STOOD VIS-A-VIS OTHER COMMUNITIES MM-HMM . AND TOLD US AT ONE POINT THAT WE BROKE THE RECORDS FOR A REGIONAL, RURAL, REGIONAL, YOU KNOW, BUS ROUTE SHUTTLE TYPE OF A ROUTE. IN TERMS, IS THERE SOMETHING YES. AND THAT IS LIKE, UH, OUR PERFORMANCE FACTORS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BY DIFFERENT MODE, OUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES, UH, YOU KNOW, AN AVERAGE IS BETWEEN LIKE EIGHT AND 10 PASSENGERS PER HOUR. OUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES ARE AVERAGING ABOUT 35.7 PER HOUR. IF YOU BLEND IT. WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE, ARE 8.5 AN HOUR, ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, ONE ROUTE IS LIKE 72 PASSENGERS PER REVENUE HOUR. UH, IN TERMS OF THE ON DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE FOR, FOR A RURAL AREA, A GOOD, UH, PASSENGER PER REVENUE HOUR IS ABOUT THREE AND ABOVE. AND WE HAVE BEEN, WHICH IS REALLY PROMISING FOR OUR SERVICES IN THIS, IN THE, THE HIGH TIME, UH, WE WERE MEETING OURS BY 2.9, UH, WHICH WAS IN MARCH AND IN APRIL, AND EVEN IN MAY, WE WERE AT 2.7 PASSENGERS PER HOUR, WHICH IS RELATIVELY ACCEPTABLE FOR THE SIZE OF OUR DEMAND ZONE AND FOR THE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY THERE, BUT LIKELY WITH SEASONALITY, WE MAY SEE, UH, WE MAY SEE THAT GO BELOW TOO. UH, THAT'S WHERE WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH OUR OPERATOR ON THE MAKING THE SERVICE MORE EFFICIENT OR LOOKING AND ANALYZING IT, OUR ZONES TO SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER UTILIZATION OR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE COULD ADJUST AND ADD TO IT. OKAY. ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION. I WAS TALKING TO SOME LOCAL RESIDENTS THE OTHER DAY IN A SOCIAL SITUATION. AND, AND ONE PERSON HAPPENED TO BE SHARING THE FACT THAT SHE HAD A, SHE WAS TAKING CARE OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS INFIRM AND, AND COULDN'T GET OUT, AND THEN SHE WAS SICK. SO SHE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THIS PERSON. AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, SHE COULD TAKE THE SHUTTLE CONNECT. WHAT'S THAT? SO I EXPLAINED IT, AND THEN I REALIZED THAT A LONG TIME AGO, STEVE EGNER MADE UP THESE LITTLE CARDS. I HAPPENED TO HAVE SOME IN MY PURSE. SO I GAVE HER ONE OF THE CARDS AND SAID, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. HERE'S HOW YOU DO IT. I, I DON'T HAVE ANY LEFT. WE CAN GET YOU MORE. YEAH, PLEASE. I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD CARRY THEM. YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US ARE GONNA SPEAK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS. AND WE CAN BE AMBASSADORS. RIGHT. I WAS JUST AT THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, AND, UH, THERE WAS A WOMAN THERE WHO SERVES ON THE COMMITTEE, AND SHE HAD, [00:20:01] I, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT SHE HAD HAD SOME SURGERY OR SOMETHING, AND SHE DIDN'T THINK THAT SHE COULD RIDE IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T A DA ACCESSIBLE. AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A, A RAMP AND EVERYTHING. SO THERE'S, THAT'S A LOT OF THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES WERE A LITTLE EASIER, UH, IN ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATING CONNECT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND WE REALLY, WE NEED TO TAKE A HANDS-ON APPROACH. ALL HANDS ARE NEEDED. UH, WE JUST HAD A, UH, EVENT ON JUNE 5TH FOR CONCIERGE AND HOTEL STAFF. UH, STEVE HOSTED IT, IT WAS A REALLY NICE EVENT. WE HAD OVER A DOZEN, UH, PLACES, UH, AND FOLKS INVOLVED, AND WE BROUGHT A VEHICLE OUT AND WE WALKED 'EM THROUGH AND WE PROVIDED THEM WITH, WE'VE CREATED OUR, UH, WITH MARKETING AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM. WE CREATED THESE FREE RIDE COUPONS AND SHOWED THEM A DISPLAY THAT WE ORDERED AND MADE THE MATERIALS UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE RIDE HAILING HERE. AND IF WE DO, IT'S, I'VE HEARD IT'S, IT'S NOT RELIABLE. SO THIS IS OUR OPTION FOR OUR VISITORS AND OUR RESIDENTS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE IT FOR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. BUT WE'VE OFFERED IT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND IT'S JUST, A LOT OF IT IS GETTING THAT MUSCLE MEMORY EDUCATION, AND IT'S A STILL NEWLY IMPLEMENTED SERVICE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, ARE REACHING OUT TO OUR, OUR PUBLIC. I'M GONNA FIND SOME OF THESE CARDS IN MY MAILBOX. YES. WE CAN GET SOME WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, COULD YOU PUT THEM IN ALL OF OUR MAILBOXES UP, UP OVER HERE WITH THE CITY CLERK? YES. I HAVE TO ENSURE WE'VE GOT 'EM OVER AT OUR, OUR UA FACILITY, AND I WILL CHECK AND WE'LL GET THOSE TO YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'D BE APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MELISSA? MELISSA? YES. OKAY. WELL, ACTUALLY, I JUST, UM, WANTED TO GO BACK TO KATHY'S THING AROUND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER THOSE ARE CHURCHES OR WHATEVER, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THEIR MEMBERS ARE LOCATED. SO IF, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CHURCH WAY OUT IN THE VOC, EVEN SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS MAY ACTUALLY BE WITHIN THE RIDERSHIP AREA. SO GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE NOT ONLY MAY MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE MENTALLY TO THOSE PEOPLE, BUT WE'LL START TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. WELL, AMBER WILL START TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT WHERE OTHER PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT WHEN THEY REALIZE PERHAPS ON THE APP THAT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY IN THAT SPACE YET. SO I, I THINK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OTHER, WHAT ARE THE OTHER CONGREGANT POINTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AND THEY, THEY, THEY DO THINGS TOGETHER. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, TO SAY THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE AN INTERESTING IDEA. WELL, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. JUST IF THERE'S ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT WE HAVEN'T REACHED YET, LET US KNOW. WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY. UH, MYSELF OR, UH, EVEN OUR STAFF MEMBERS AS WELL AS MV, UH, OUR GENERAL MANAGER AND RACHEL, THE DISPATCHER THERE, HAVE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO PROMOTE THE SERVICE, EDUCATE AND PROVIDE MATERIALS TO THOSE WHO NEED IT. CAN I ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION? SURE. ALONG THE, THOSE SAME SORT OF LINES, UM, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO LIKE, UH, THE RED ROCK RANGER DISTRICT TO THE, UH, VISITOR CENTER THERE? SO AS PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, THAT MIGHT BE A POINT TO REACH OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES. HEY, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE SHUTTLE CONNECT IF YOU'RE GOING OUT TO EAT AND WANNA GET A, A COUPLE BEERS. SO, UM, IT'S JUST THAT, THAT IS AN ENTRY POINT FOR US THAT WE, I DON'T THINK WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AS MUCH AS WE COULD AS A COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, IT'S, THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION. AND WE WORK REALLY COLLABORATIVELY. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THEIR, UH, HEAT, THEIR HEAT MESSAGING OUT. WE'RE PUTTING THOSE MESSAGES ON OUR, OUR SHUTTLE SCREENS, SO WHEN WE MEET WITH THEIR STAFF, WE CAN PROVIDE 'EM A DISPLAY TO HAVE OUT THERE AND GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION. SO AMBER, THE GORILLA IN THE ROOM OF WHERE I WAS TRYING TO GET TO WITH THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOOD, , WHICH IS MY POINT PERSONAL, WELL, MY NEIGHBORS, NOT ME, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF TIMEFRAME OF EXPANDING? I KNOW YOU DO. WEREN'T YOU GONNA BE LOOKING AT I SOME KIND OF STUDY TO, TO LOOK AT EXPANDING FOR THE FUTURE? I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS WE OPTIMIZE THE ZONES. MM-HMM . AND, UH, I JUST, I WANTED TO GET A LOT OF THE DATA MYSELF AND UNDERSTAND IT, AND KIND OF LOOK AT OUR UTILIZATION. I ENTERED HERE, YOU KNOW, I ENTERED THE SERVICES AT THEIR PEAK, SO NOW I'M GETTING A LOOK AT WHAT IT IS, KIND OF AT THAT SEASONALITY. AND WE'VE HAD LIKE A, A LULL A LITTLE BIT. UH, SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT RELATIVELY SOON JUST TO ADJUST THAT. WE, WE DON'T LIKE TO MAKE CHANGES THAT ARE NOT PLANNED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CHANGES AT AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR AND ACTUALLY HAVE THAT SCHEDULED AND LOOKING AT [00:25:01] ADDING ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR LOOKING AT ADJUSTING THE ZONE. SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT DATE, BUT IT IS ON THE LIST. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. I WOULDN'T EXPECT AN EXACT DATE BECAUSE EVERYTHING RUNS VERY SLOW IN GOVERNMENT, BUT AT LEAST THE IDEA, IT'S, IT'S ON THE HORIZON. SO I COULD TALK TO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LEFT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. I COULD TALK TO MY NEIGHBORS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT. 'CAUSE A LOT, A LOT OF THEM ARE GETTING OLDER. SO I THINK WE DISCUSSED AT THE SIM UPDATE LAST IS THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF SANDBURN. THERE'S SOME OF THOSE AREAS. MM-HMM . RIGHT? MM-HMM . THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO LOOKING AT HOW CONNECT HAS PERFORMED SINCE THE LAUNCH, AND THIS GRAPH IS GONNA GIVE SOME DAILY RIDERSHIP TRENDS SINCE IMPLEMENTATION. UH, AND YOU CAN JUST SEE WHAT THE USAGE HAS BEEN OVER TIME. AND YOU CAN SEE LIKE THERE WAS A SLOW PROGRESS AT THE BEGINNING. UH, AND PARTICULARLY THAT BIG PEAK IS IN MARCH WHERE WE ADDED SERVICE. WE ADDED SEVEN DAY A WEEK SERVICE. WE EXPANDED INTO THE EVENINGS AND IT WAS A REAL PEAK TIME FOR, FOR THOSE ENTERING THE SYSTEM. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR RIDERSHIP HAS GROWN SINCE THE LAUNCH. UH, WHILE THE DAILY NUMBERS HAVE FLUCTUATED, THE TREND IS, IS MOVING FORWARD AND UPWARD. UH, MARCH WAS A MAJOR MILESTONE, UH, AND OUTREACH IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE, BUT WE CONTINUE TO NEED TO PROVIDE THAT OUTREACH. AND I THINK IT WAS, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE LAST UPDATE, IS THAT WE JUST STARTED IT LIKE, WE HAVE TO PUT, KEEP OUR PEDAL TO THE GAS ON THIS IN TERMS OF ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY VALUABLE SERVICE THAT WE WANT THEM TO UTILIZE. UM, THE SUMMER FREE RIDE CAMPAIGN, I JUST TALKED ABOUT IT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IN THOSE, THOSE, THOSE BOOKLETS TO PROVIDE WITH INFORMATION. UH, WE SAW, I THINK IN THE FIRST WEEK THAT WE PROVIDED THE SERVICE AND WE PROVIDED AND HANDED OUT THOSE COUPONS. UH, WE SAW ABOUT 50 COUPONS BEING USED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD TREND FOR US IN TERMS OF JUST ONE WEEK OF GETTING THOSE, THOSE COUPONS OUT. UH, OUR NEXT IS THAT RESIDENT FOCUSED ENGAGEMENT, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WITH KIND OF A LOCALS DINE IN AND REACHING OUT TO OUR, OUR RESIDENTIAL ORGANIZATIONS. SO ANY ONES THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO, UH, REACH OUT TO, LET US KNOW. AND JUST AS WE CONTINUE THIS, UH, THERE IS, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FLUCTUATIONS. I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT AT THAT TWO, YOU KNOW, THE 2.9 PASSENGER PER HOUR, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE IT DROP DOWN AGAIN. AND WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT. BUT THAT IS A CHALLENGE TO US THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR EFFICIENCIES AND TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT MORE. AMBER, IF I COULD JUST ADD TO YOU, UH, THE CONCIERGE SEEMED TO ROTATE IN OUR CITY, THEY TURN OVER QUITE HIGH, SO YOU MAY NEED TO GO BACK TO THEM EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS. YEAH. SO I DUNNO IF ANYONE HAS TOLD YOU THAT, BUT STEVE CIGNA'S VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT. HE'S DONE THOSE MEETINGS BEFORE, BUT THESE PEOPLE IN THE HOTELS, THEY COME AND THEY GO. THEY DO. AND, UH, WE'VE, I REALLY THINK THE EVENT THAT WE HAD AND THAT STEVE HOSTED WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL. AND WE HAD PETE INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL, WHO KIND OF KEEPS HIS, HIS INFORMATION UP TO DATE. PETE'S, UM, YEAH. RIGHT. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND IT'S JUST THAT WE'VE, UH, WORKED WITH MV STAFF. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE GOTTEN MATERIALS EVERY TWO WEEKS TO SEE IF THEY, THEY NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. I GAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS CAMPAIGN, UH, JUST AT THE LAST LODGING COUNCIL. UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP COMMUNICATIONS OPEN AND TRYING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EDUCATION ON THIS SERVICE. DEREK SHOULD JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION. PERFECT. YEP. AMBER, IF I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS CHART, IT, THIS IS A WEEKLY DEMAND, IS IF I CAN SEE THE DATA WHEN IT DROPS TO ZERO, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RUNNING THE SHUTTLE ON THOSE DAYS. NOT BECAUSE THE DEMAND IS ZERO. YES. NO, THAT, THAT IS, YOU'LL SEE THAT PEAK WITH THE ZERO RIDERS THAT ON MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY. I WONDER IF THAT CHART WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT IF, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO NOT SHOW A ZERO DEMAND, BUT JUST A GAP. WE COULD, WE COULD JUST PULL THOSE NUMBERS OUT. YEAH. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, DURING OUR LAST MEETING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SERVICE AT THE END OF MAY, UH, THERE WERE A LOT [00:30:01] OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT, WHO OUR WRITERS WERE AND WHERE THEY WERE GOING. UM, WE DUG A LITTLE INTO THE DATA, LOOKED AT SOME RAW TRIP DATA ON A FEW MONTHS, AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WHO'S USING IT? AND IT'S, IT'S A MIX. I I PLACED IT INTO TWO CATEGORIES TO TRY TO EXPLAIN IT. AND WE'RE SEEING THAT, UH, WE HAVE FREQUENT RIDERS, UH, MOSTLY RESIDENTS THAT ARE USING IT FOR ESSENTIAL ERRANDS WHILE THEY MAKE UP A SMALL NUMBER. AND UNDUPLICATED PASSENGERS, THEY'RE TAKING 25 TO 30% OF THE TRIPS IN A MONTH. AND, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO, WE'RE SEEING IT USED FOR ROUTINE TRIPS, ERRANDS, THEY'RE USING IT DAILY, SOMETIMES TWICE DAILY, BUT THEY'RE USING IT WEEKLY. I MEAN, THERE IS VERY REGULAR USAGE BY THESE KEY INDIVIDUALS. AND THEN WE'VE BROKEN INTO ANOTHER CATEGORY. THERE ARE INFREQUENT RIDERS. UH, THEY'RE LIKELY VISITORS, UH, ONE-TIME USERS, POSSIBLY OCCASIONAL LOCALS. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DATA AND SEE THAT THEY'VE STAYED HERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND, UH, THEY DON'T USE IT AS OFTEN, BUT WHILE THEY'RE HERE, THEY USE IT. YOU SEE IT MOSTLY FROM ACCOMMODATIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO OUR TRANSIT ACCESS POINTS, OUR PARK AND RIDES, UH, UPTOWN AND, UH, DIFFERENT ACCOMMODATIONS. YOU SEE THAT PATTERN, PETE AND THEN KATHY, AMBER, SEVEN TO 9% FREQUENT LOCAL RIDER. WHAT'S, WHAT'S, HOW, WHAT'S THE MATH ON THAT? WHAT DOES THAT BREAKDOWN INTO INDIVIDUALS YOU ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT, LIKE, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 55 RIDERS A MONTH WHO ARE FREQUENT BETWEEN 50 TO 55 THAT ARE FREQUENT. YES. 55 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS. UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS. MM-HMM . AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF THEIR SHARED RIDE PATTERN SPLITS BETWEEN THESE? I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. OUR, OUR SOFTWARE ISN'T THAT INTUITIVE. YEAH. SO LIKE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT KIND OF A DRIVE A DAY, DAILY DRIVER MANUAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, MANIFEST TO, TO GET A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S DYNAMIC SCHEDULING. SO SOMEBODY CAN CALL AND THEY CAN HAVE A RIDE LIKE 15 MINUTES LATER, EVEN EARLIER SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE NOT REAL BUSY. SO THEN THAT GETS PLACED ON THE TRIP. SO WE'D HAVE TO, WE'D HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE FARTHER INTO THAT TO GET THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AMBER. UM, THE, UM, HOME TO THE COMMON PURPOSES UNDER THE FREQUENT LOCAL RIDERS AND THE DESTINATIONS UNDER THE INFREQUENT RIDERS, ARE THOSE RANKED, ARE THOSE IN ORDER? I DID NOT RANK THOSE. DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHICH ARE THE MOST COMMON? IS IT MORE COMMON TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE VERSUS A CLINIC? WE'RE SEEING MORE GROCERY STORE, AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS GONNA SHOW YOU KIND OF THOSE DESTINATIONS. OKAY. AND A LOT OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS LIKE GOODWILL, BASHES, OKAY. WHOLE FOODS, THOSE AREAS, SAFEWAY, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF TRIPS THERE. AND THE SAME THING. ARE THE HOTELS BEING MORE FREQUENT THAN THE PARKING RIDES? UH, WE'LL LOOK AT YOU LOOK AT THAT TOO. THANK, I'VE GOT THAT IN THE RANK TO DATA IN TERMS OF ORIGINS AND DESTINATIONS ON THE NEXT SLIDES. GREAT. I HAVE A QUESTION. THANKS, MAYOR. DO THE FREQUENT LOCAL RIDERS ASK FOR ADDITIONAL SHUTTLE DAYS? YOU KNOW, DO THEY SAY, DO YOU WISH YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE AVAILABLE ON WEDNESDAY? THAT'S WHEN THEY GO TO THE DOCTOR. WE ACTUALLY JUST HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE SEDONA COMMUNITY CENTER, LIKE, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA EXPAND THE SERVICE? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, WHEN WE LOOK AT UPCOMING BUDGET PROCESSES AND LOOK AT OUR SERVICES, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM FOLKS. UH, AND WE ARE GONNA ASK FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THESE RIDERS. I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE LETTERS SENT, UH, TO YOU ALL ABOUT, UH, HOW VALUABLE THEY FEEL THE SERVICES. UH, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN MARCH AND APRIL, I MEAN, THERE WAS HIGHER UTILIZATION AND PEOPLE TEND TO UTILIZE A SERVICE IF IT'S OFFERED EVERY DAY VERSUS THREE DAYS. THEY CAN DEPEND ON IT AND RELY ON IT. AND, UH, SO I THINK AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE USING IT AND THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL DAYS. DO YOU DO ANY TYPE OF, UH, SURVEY QUESTIONNAIRE, LIKE WHEN THEY GET ON THE BUS HERE, A POSTCARD? IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SENDING IT IN FOR A COMMENT. I THINK WE, WE HAVE A QR CODE THAT PEOPLE CAN SEND FEEDBACK TO, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO KIND OF A REVERSE, LIKE, HOW WAS YOUR TRIP? MM-HMM . AND, UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON CONNECT. WE GET SOME, WE ACTUALLY GET SOME FROM VISITORS THAT JUST EMAIL OUR, OUR SHUTTLE SITE. SURE. [00:35:01] IT'S FREE, OF COURSE. YEAH. BUT ALSO ON CONNECT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME, UH, SOME VISITOR THAT CAME IN FROM CALIFORNIA THAT DIDN'T BRING A CAR HERE, AND SHE USED CONNECT THE WHOLE TIME SHE WAS IN TOWN AND WAS REALLY EXCITED THAT IT WAS A CAR FREE EXPERIENCE FOR HER. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. YEAH. , DEREK, UM, QUESTION FOR THE PEOPLE IN IOWA, RIGHT? WHAT ARE THE DAYS THAT THE GROCERY STORES OFFER DISCOUNTS FOR SENIORS? WEDNESDAYS, WEDNESDAY. YEAH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. IT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP IN OUR CONCIERGE MEETING, UH, THAT, THAT WEDNESDAY WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND LOCALS FOR THAT DAY. THAT WAS MY POINT, WAS MM-HMM . THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE SERVICE TO BASHES, SAFEWAY AND ALL THE OTHERS. SO THAT YEARS TO GO. AND THAT'S JUST GREAT FEEDBACK AS WE LOOK AT OPTIMIZING THE SERVICE AND LOOKING AT THE ZONES AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT TAKES THAT? WHERE IS IT GONNA BE TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP? I MEAN, CLEARLY, AND I THINK PETE, WE, UH, IF YOU EXPAND SERVICE, ADD ADDITIONAL HOURS, YOU POSSIBLY ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, MORE VEHICLES OR MORE COSTS. BUT THOSE ARE, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND ANALYZE ONE YEAR, ONE MORE YEAR. AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO STOP MAKING THOSE JOKES. , BUT YOU WON'T BE USING IT. YOU HAVE A LITTLE CAR. IT WORKS. THE DISCOUNT. OH, THE DISCOUNT, YEAH. . SO THIS IS WHERE, WHERE ARE, WHERE ARE OUR RIDERS GOING? AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, KEY DESTINATION LISTED IN RANKED ORDER OF WHERE WE'RE SEEING OUR RIDERS GOING ON CONNECT. WHAT ARE THE COLORS? UH, RED ARE THE HIGHEST TRIP GENERATORS. OH, OKAY. YELLOW. IT, IT, IT'S, IT GOES RED, YELLOW, AND BLUE. AND, UH, THIS IS OUR TRIP GENERATORS FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SERVICE, UH, THE END OF AUGUST OF 24 TO I THINK THE END OF MAY. UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR KEY DESTINATIONS. WE'RE SEEING THE, UH, 1 79 PARK AND RIDE, UH, SHADOW BRICK APARTMENTS, UH, IS OUR SECOND HIGHEST, UH, DESTINATION. UH, UPTOWN STOPS, UH, AKA P**I, UH, THE VISITOR CENTER, AND THEN GROCERY STORES AND, UH, SHOPPING CENTERS. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE, AMBER. I LOVE THIS. THIS WAS VERY INTERESTING TO LOOK AT, BUT IT DOES SEEM THAT THE HIGHEST DESTINATIONS ARE THE PARK AND RIDE POSSE GROUNDS THAT WEST SEDONA. MM-HMM . TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE STOP. SO ARE PEOPLE PARKING IN THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE STOP AND THEN CALLING CONNECT AND PAYING TO GET SOMEWHERE RATHER THAN RIDING THE OTHER SHUTTLE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING INSTEAD OF VERDE SHUTTLE, NO. INSTEAD OF OUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE, UH, WELL, FROM THE WE, WHAT WE DO SEE IS A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE GONE TO THE 1 79 LOT, THEY CAN'T PARK THERE, AND THEN THEY GO AND LOOK FOR AN ADDITIONAL PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR THEY GO BACK TO THEIR ACCOMMODATION, AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THEM TO EITHER ONE OF THE THREE PARK AND RIDE LOTS, UH, TO THEN ACCESS THE TRAILHEAD SERVICE. I WOULD JUST ADD THAT WE, WE HAD SO MUCH OF THAT GOING ON THAT OUR TCA PROGRAM ENDED UP DEVELOPING A LITTLE HANDOUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT SUGGESTED, GO BACK TO YOUR HOTEL, OR GO TO THIS LOCATION, GO TO THIS LOCATION, AND THEN HERE'S HOW YOU CONTACT THE CONNECT SERVICE AND GET BACK TO THIS POINT. SO IT GIVES THEM, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK. IT GIVES THEM A POSITIVE, THIS IS HOW YOU GO PARK AND GET BACK TO THIS LOCATION. YEP. KIND OF OUR NEXT PHASE IN THIS, AS ANDY SUGGESTED IS, IS HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SENDING THEM ALL OVER CIRCULATING, LIKE, WHAT'S THE BEST PLACE FOR THEM TO GO TO, TO ACCESS AND, AND IMPROVE THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE AND, AND TAKE ANOTHER ACTIVITY. SO WE'RE SEEING THAT, UH, IT'S BENEFICIAL JUST TO TELL THEM TO GO BACK TO THEIR ACCOMMODATIONS. NOW, SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, OR THEY JUST GO UPTOWN AND PARK, AND THEN WE TRANSPORT 'EM TO THE TRAILHEADS THAT WAY, TO THE ACTUAL PARK AND RIDE LOTS. THEN MY NEXT QUESTION, AMBER AND I, I'M NOT GONNA DWELL ON THIS POINT, AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE EMBARRASSING, BUT IT'S A, A MATTER OF CURIOSITY FOR ME. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE, THE TOPIC THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT. IF MY RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT, WE SET THE SERVICE AREA, KIND OF THE DISTANCE FROM THUNDER MOUNTAIN TO 89 A, AND THEN WE USE THAT DISTANCE ALL OVER TOWN MM-HMM . AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP, I CLEARLY SEE THINGS THAT GOT OUTSIDE OF THERE, THE, THE TEACUP TRAIL HEAD, THE AIRPORT VORTEX SITE, PROBABLY MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OR TWO, BUT THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT SERVICE AREA THAT I THOUGHT WE DEFINED. WHAT WAS THE PROCESS TO, TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN WE DIDN'T DECIDE TO OPEN IT UP TO NEIGHBORHOODS? WELL, AND I WASN'T HERE WHEN WE DEFINED THAT SERVICE AREA. [00:40:01] AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT. AND I THINK AS WE LOOK AT NOW, WE'VE RAN IT FOR A WHILE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. YEAH. BUT, AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, ANDY, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I CAN SPEAK TO THE HISTORY. YEAH, SURE. WHAT ROBERT WAS THINKING AT THE TIME IS, FOR ONE, WE WANTED TO KEEP THE SERVICE AREA SORT OF TIGHT BOUND AS A, AS A BASELINE. RIGHT. THE PURPOSE FOR THAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAINED ON TIME PERFORMANCE TO OUR EXPECTATION. RIGHT. SO, SO FAR OUR MEASUREMENT IS THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT ON TIME PERFORMANCE THAT WE NEED. ALONG WITH THAT THOUGH, ROBERT WANTED TO SET AREAS THAT HE THOUGHT MIGHT BE HOT SPOTS, SIMILAR TO IN OUR BUSINESS DISTRICT, WE DON'T PROVIDE A BROAD SERVICE AREA, BUT MORE OF HERE'S A FLAG STOP IN RELATION TO THE SERVICE CONNECT AREA. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AT THE AIRPORT AT, UM, SUGAR LOAF AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER AREAS THAT, THAT ARE JUST BEYOND THE, THE SERVICE AREA. BUT IT'S A CONNECTED AREA BECAUSE WE EXPECTED HIGH UTILIZATION OF, YOU KNOW, PICKUP AND DROP OFF THERE. AND IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH WHEN YOU'RE ESTABLISHING THESE ZONES. AND A, THIS IS A SIX SQUARE, THIS IS A SIX MILE, LIKE A SIX SQUARE MILE ZONE, WHICH IS RELATIVELY LARGE IN TERMS OF MICRO TRANSIT ZONES. SO I THINK AS WE LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE OUR, OUR OBJECTIVES ARE BEING MET, WE'RE MEETING THOSE ON TIME PERFORMANCES, AND WE COULD LOOK AT THOSE INDICATORS AND SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WEREN'T, WEREN'T INITIALLY ADDED. I THINK WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND I, I, I THINK WE WILL, AS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, I, I THINK JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID WHEN INFORMATION LIKE THAT GETS OUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACCOMMODATING TOURISTS ABOVE RESIDENTS KIND OF ARGUMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, I PREFER WE HAVE A DIFFERENT, AN EQUAL ANSWER TO, RATHER THAN, ONE THING THAT MIGHT HELP WITH THAT IS WE HAVE A HIGH, UH, I GUESS A PORTION OF OUR POPULATION THAT SURE. THAT HIKES OUR TRAILS AS WELL, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST VISITORS THAT HIKE OUR TRAILS, IT'S QUALITY AND EQUITY . YEAH. AND AS INDIAN INDICATED, LIKE ON THE UPTOWN AREA, WE'VE REALLY ESTABLISHED KEY AREAS IN THE UPTOWN JUST TO TRY NOT, TRY TO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED AREAS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT ROBERT'S INTENT WAS HERE, WAS TO, UH, JUST TRY TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE, BUT BE MINDFUL OF KIND OF WHERE DOES THAT GET, WHERE DOES THAT IMPACT OUR, OUR PERFORMANCE AND OUR RELIABILITY? AND I THINK NOW THAT WE'VE OPERATED IT FOR OVER EIGHT MONTHS, WE CAN, WE CAN REVISIT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ALONG NOW. OKAY. UH, THE, WHERE, WHERE FOLKS ARE ORIGINATING, THEIR TRIPS ARE SIMILAR TO OUR DESTINATIONS. THESE ARE, ARE, ARE SHOWN IN RANKING ORDER. AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, BUT, UH, WE SEE A LOT OF UTILIZATION TO THOSE TRANSIT ACCESS POINTS. UH, OUR SHUTTLE LOTS, UH, BUT WE ARE SEEING SOME HEALTHY USE OF GROCERY STORES AND SHOPPING CENTERS THAT OUR RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THOSE VISITORS THAT UTILIZE THE SERVICE GO TO. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE REDS ARE THE HIGHEST TRIP GENERATOR. IT'S KIND OF AROUND THE KEY CORRIDORS. SO THESE ARE A REAL ZOOMED OUT VISION OF KIND OF THE HEAT MAP OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH CONNECT. AND I'M GOING A LOT THROUGH CONNECT BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AT THE SIM UPDATE, AND I WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS ABOUT WHAT WE SEE. UH, SO I ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT. AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE JUST HOW THE, HOW THE RIDES ARE DISPERSED, UH, THROUGHOUT A COMMUNITY AND A SUBSECTION, UH, KIND OF WHERE THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR GRAPHIC, BUT THAT THERE'S TRIP GENERATIONS KIND OF AROUND THE, AROUND THE CORRIDOR AS WELL AS, AS EMBEDDED IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT ARE, ARE WITHIN SEDONA. SO SOME TAKEAWAYS ON THIS SERVICE IS THAT, UH, WE'RE TRENDING UPWARDS SINCE LAUNCH. THERE'S A SEASONALITY TO IT, BUT WE STILL, UH, ARE ABOVE OUR LEVELS THAN THE INITIAL LAUNCH. UH, THAT, UH, OUR HIGHEST MONTH SO FAR TO DATE WAS IN MARCH WITH, UH, 300 AND OR 3,382 TRIPS. AND THE SERVICE IS BECOMING A PRETTY RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION OPTION IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE WENT OVER THE LOCAL MOBILITY OPTIONS, UH, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, WE ALSO SUPPORT REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN SEDONA [00:45:01] AND UH, COTTONWOOD. UH, THIS ENSURES THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO AND FROM THESE COMMUNITIES WITHOUT NEEDING TO DRIVE, UH, ONE CAR HOUSEHOLDS, UH, VISITORS THAT JUST WANNA JUMP ON AND GO INTO COTTONWOOD FOR THE DAY, OR FOLKS IN COTTONWOOD THAT WANNA JUMP IN. UH, BUT WE ARE SEEING THAT THE VERDE SHUTTLE PLAYS THAT ROLE. IT'S A CONSISTENT SERVICE. IT OPERATES SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. IT HAS HOUR FREQUENCY. UH, IT RUNS FROM SIX 30 IN THE MORNING TILL ABOUT 10 30 AT NIGHT. AND OUR RIDERSHIP IS TRENDING UPWARD ON THIS SERVICE. WE'VE GOT 77,000 TRIPS SO FAR. YEAR TO DATE LOOKS LIKE WE'LL MEET AND MAYBE EVEN EXCEED THAT. UH, AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT IS A VITAL LINK FOR COMMUTING AND CONNECTIVITY IN OUR AREA. UH, WE SEE A LOT OF LOCAL WORKERS UTILIZE IT. UH, WE'RE SEEING IT, UH, IT CONTRIBUTES TO REDUCING OUR VEHICLE TRIPS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND INTO OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT JUST STRENGTHENS THE TIES BETWEEN THE TWO COMMUNITIES. AMBER, WHAT'S THE USAGE OF THE LATER HOURS? LIKE LAST NIGHT ON THE WAY I LEFT HERE, AND THERE WAS ONE HEADED DOWN TO THE VOC OR ACTUALLY POCO POCO. AND, BUT IT WAS DARK, SO I COULDN'T TELL HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN IT. BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS. ARE THEY PRETTY MUCH ONE OR TWO PEOPLE? FIVE PEOPLE, 10 PEOPLE? WHAT'S THE USAGE? WE'D HAVE TO TELL. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE NUMBERS. I DON'T HAVE 'EM HANDY RIGHT NOW. I'M SHOCKED. SORRY. . . NO, I'M JUST IN, IN GENERAL IN ARE THEY BEING USED? 'CAUSE WE, I KNOW IT WAS EXPANDED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. A COUPLE MORE HOURS, THE MANAGERS OF SAFEWAY AND BASH TO ASK FOR THAT SO THEY CAN GET THEIR EMPLOYEES HOME AT NIGHT. WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. AND WHEN WE TALK AT THE LODGING COUNCIL, A LOT OF THOSE WORKERS, UH, WITHIN THOSE BUSINESSES ARE UTILIZING THIS SHUTTLE. GOOD. AND I SEE IT WHEN I'M GOING IN AND OUT AND DRIVING. I DO SEE PEOPLE UTILIZING THOSE BUS STOPS. GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, IN THAT AREA. I, I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION. NO, NO. ON HIGH LEVEL IS FINE. KATHY, YOU HAD A QUESTION. THE YEAR TO DATE NUMBER, UM, WHEN WAS THAT PULLED? IS THAT RECENT OR IS THAT A COUPLE MONTHS OLD? UH, NO, IT, WELL, MAY END OF MAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO ALONG THOSE LINES, WE MIGHT SAY THE PROJECTION IS THAT 25 WILL EXCEED WHAT WE HAD IN 24. YEAH. YEAH. AMBER, FOR GOING BACK, NOT TO THE SLIDE, BUT THE TOPIC OF THE COTTONWOOD SHUTTLE MM-HMM . HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OR MAYBE EVEN TO AN AND OR CITY MAGS OFFICE ABOUT EXPANDING IT INTO THE COUNTY? ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT AT THAT REGIONAL MEETING WE HAD LAST WEEK. MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GOOD TOPIC TO BRING UP. BUT, UM, SO I, I ACTUALLY HAD A, A MEETING EARLIER IN THE WEEK BEFORE OUR MEETING MM-HMM . WITH Y YAVAPAI COUNTY AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT REGIONAL ISSUES AND TOP PRIORITIES. AND I BROUGHT UP TRANSIT AS PART OF TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES THAT ARE PRIORITIES FOR, FOR OUR AREA. BUT BEYOND THAT, I THINK AMBER, YOU'VE BEEN TALKING WITH NIKKI AND WHEN I WENT TO THE, UH, PLANNING MEETING WHEN I JUST STARTED C**K UHHUH, UH, NO, IT WAS THE VALLEY VERDE TRANSPORTATION. VERDE VALLEY. VALLEY VER YEAH. THAT'S A NEW ONE. YEAH. . WELL, VERDE VALLEY. SORRY, . I HAVEN'T, I I'M ALMOST, ALMOST TO MY FOUR MONTH MARK. SO , YOU LOST ONE OF THOSE, RIGHT? YOU'RE DOING FINE. I'M SO SORRY. I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT. UM, NIKKI DID, UH, COMMUNICATE THAT THERE IS, THERE IS INTEREST AND THAT WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, PARTICULARLY AS WE LOOK AT THE UPCOMING BUDGET SEASON. YEAH. THE O THE OTHER AREA WHERE WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ON ON THIS IS IN THE PRELIMINARY KICKOFF TO THE VERDE VALLEY TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN UPDATE. MM-HMM . SO TRA UH, TRANSIT DID COME UP IN THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. JUST HIGH LEVEL. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE'VE WALKED THROUGH OUR MAJOR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL AND KIND OF OUR REGIONAL CONNECTION. SO I THINK AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE NEED TO TAKE, TAKE A STEP BACK AND KIND OF ASK IS IT WORKING AND IS IT MEETING THE GOALS THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED AND THESE OBJECTIVES, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO SIM AND, UH, OUR OTHER COMMUNITY PLANS. AND THESE ARE YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS, BUT THE NUMBERS DO SPEAK, UH, FOR THEMSELVES, UH, JUST YEAR TO DATE. AND THESE ARE AS OF THE END OF MAY. UH, OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM HAS HELPED ELIMINATE OVER 129,000 VEHICLE TRIPS. UH, WHETHER IT'S IN TRAILHEAD, TRAFFIC, CIRCULATING NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, DAILY LOCAL TRAVEL [00:50:01] OR REGIONAL COMMUTES. EACH RIDE TAKEN IS A STEP TOWARDS LESS CONGESTION, SAFER STREETS, IN A HEALTHIER ENVIRONMENT. UM, WE'RE SEEING IT ALIGN WITH OUR SIM GOALS. AND SINCE LAUNCHING, UH, THE SEDONA OR THE, THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE, WE'VE SEEN OVER 274,347 VEHICLE TRIPS HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED FROM SEDONAS NEIGHBORHOODS AND ROADWAYS. AND IN CALENDAR YEAR 2024, WE SAW THAT SEDONAS TRANSIT SERVICES AVOIDED AN ESTIMATED 407 METRIC TONS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. VERY IMPRESSIVE. MM-HMM . SO AS WE LOOK AHEAD, UH, WE'RE STUDYING THE FEASIBILITY. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE YOU GET THERE. I'M SORRY. I DID MISS THAT. I'M SORRY. ARE THERE OTHER SHUTTLE STOPS THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING FOR THE REGULAR SHUTTLE FOR THE TRAILHEAD MM-HMM . SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK SO. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S NEXT ON THE HORIZON? AND I, I THINK PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WILL BE THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, DID I IDENTIFY SOME OTHER POTENTIAL CONNECTIONS? AND YES, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE MOVING FORWARD, BUT I DON'T WANNA STEAL AMBER'S STORY. NO. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AS WE SUGGEST MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED TO ANALYZE THAT WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE FOREST SERVICE. WE'RE ALSO AN EFFECTIVE TOOL IN THEIR TOURISM MANAGEMENT AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TRAILS WE CAN ACCESS THAT WE CAN PUT MORE PEOPLE ON. WHICH ONES, UH, HAVE A LOT OF CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO MANAGE APPROPRIATELY. SO WE ARE WORKING, I'VE JUST STARTED WORKING WITH THE FOREST SERVICE IN THAT PARTNERSHIP AND THAT IS OUR, KIND OF OUR NEXT STEPS ON WHERE DO WE IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS. ARE THERE TWEAKS THAT COULD BE MADE IN THE EXISTING SERVICES? THERE'S A FEW THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE WE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL TRAILHEAD. SO THAT'S IN THE WORKS, UH, YET TO BE DETERMINED. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. HAVE ANY FEEL FOR WOULD BE A SIX MONTHS, THE YEAR TOMORROW, NOT TOMORROW. , I'M HEADED TO SOUTH DAKOTA TOMORROW. . SO, YEAH, I THINK AS WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE FALL TO OUR TRAILHEAD SERVICES, UH, KIND OF BEFORE THAT PEAK SEASONALITY THAT WE SEE. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF THERE ARE TO BE ANY. WE'LL WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH, UH, THE FOREST SERVICE. KIND OF IDENTIFY THOSE AND UH, HOPEFULLY IMPLEMENT THOSE IN THE FALL SO WE CAN RUN 'EM AND, AND UTILIZE, WE'RE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR OPERATOR AND WITH THE FOREST SERVICE ON ANY STEPS WE TAKE IN TERMS OF THAT BEING MINDFUL OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE IMPACTS AND IT'S, AND BALANCING THE RESOURCES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO THAT'S ON THE TRAILHEAD, UH, SERVICE SIDE. MM-HMM . YEP. RIGHT ON SHUTTLE CONNECT SIDE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THAT OF COURSE. AND I THINK THE IDEA WITH THAT WOULD BE THAT WE SET A TIME, RUN A TEST BEFORE WE COMMIT TO FULLY TO EXPANSION OF POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL BUSES, OPERATORS, ALL THAT SORT OF THING. WE RUN A TEST FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A FEW MONTHS OR WHATEVER THAT DURATION MIGHT BE, AND SHOW THAT THAT'S A GOOD SUCCESSFUL EXPANSION. IT'S NOT AN AREA THAT WE EXPAND TO AND WE GET VERY LITTLE, YOU KNOW, USE OUT OF IT. WE'D HATE TO COMMIT THOSE KIND OF RESOURCES TO AN AREA THAT'S NOT GONNA BE UTILIZED. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, SO LOOKING AHEAD, WE JUST KICKED OFF LAST WEEK. UH, OUR UPTOWN CIRCULATOR STUDY, UH, IS, UH, UH, WE BEGAN OUR STUDY TO ASSESS THE FEASIBILITY OF A FIXED ROUTE UPTOWN CIRCULATOR TO KEY AREAS. UH, THIS STUDY IS FUNDED WITH FEDERAL PLANNING, UH, GRANT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE SIM UPDATE. UH, WE'LL BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL UPDATES AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION. WE'VE JUST RECEIVED JUST REAL INITIAL DATA REQUESTS. UH, THERE ARE SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO, AND WE CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON OUR ACTIVITIES AS THEY PROGRESS. THE PLAN IS TO, THE REPORT IS TO BE DONE AT THE END OF DECEMBER, UH, BEGINNING OF JANUARY. AND JUST TO REMIND, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY IS TO BE FOCUSED ON ANALY, ON ANALY ANALYZING, EXCUSE ME, THE TRANSIT FIXED ROUTE SERVICE TO BETTER CONNECT OUR UPTOWN TO LOCKA, HILLSIDE HOE AND FUTURE IDENTIFIED PARKING AREAS AS WE WORK ON OUR CONSOLIDATED PARKING [00:55:01] PLAN, UH, WITH THE PARKING STUDY THAT'S UNDERWAY. PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ONCE THE PARKING GARAGE IS OPEN AND HOW WE CIRCULATE TRAFFIC THROUGH THOSE KEY CORRIDORS IN AREAS. AMBER, HAVE YOU STARTED REACHING OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE THEIR INTEREST? I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD ALL WANT IT, BUT I KNOW ONE PROPERTY OWNER CAN BE SOMETIMES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH ANY KINDA CHANGE. BUT I WOULD THINK WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY OUTREACH OR ENGAGEMENT YET. THERE IS A INITIAL MEETING WITH OUR, UH, OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM. WE ARE GONNA WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT IS CURRENTLY DOING THE PARKING STUDY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE COVERAGE AND WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE NECESSARY INDIVIDUALS. AND WOULD IT BE TOO EARLY TO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT LIKE HILLSIDE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A PLACE THAT THE BUS COULD, OR A SHUTTLE COULD STOP. THEY HAVE TO COMMIT TO. THAT IS A COMMITMENT FROM THEM, I WOULD THINK. BUT YOU SHOULD THAT BE DONE EARLIER TO BE SURE THAT THEY REALLY DO HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT. BECAUSE I KNOW, I BELIEVE THERE'S AN UPCOMING HEARING FOR HILLSIDE TO EXPAND THEIR PARKING LOT, UH, TO RESIDENT. IT'S RESIDENTIAL, TO REZONE TO, UH, PARKING. UH, THIS WOULD HELP THEM AS WELL. 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE REALLY, THEY LO TOOK A BIG HIT WITH THE 1 79 PROJECT 20 YEARS AGO. YEAH. THIS WOULD REALLY HELP THEM. BUT THEY SHOULD KNOW IT'S COMING. WE'LL DEFINITELY BE TALKING TO THOSE BUSINESSES IN THAT, IN THAT ZONE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I JUST, IN, IN FACT, UH, HAD AN INDIVIDUAL MEETING WITH A BUSINESS OWNER THIS MORNING, UM, MORE DOWN IN THE ALKI PUCKY AREA AND ON THE NORTH SIDE. ON THE NORTH SIDE, YEAH. OKAY. THEN I KNOW WHO IT'S, YEAH. AND DISCUSS THIS PROGRAM AND THEIR INTEREST IN IT AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE'LL BE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THAT ANALYSIS. UH, THEY, THEY'LL TAKE THE DATA, THEY'LL LOOK AT OUR EXISTING STOPS, UH, TO SEE IF THEY CAN BE UTILIZED. SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SURELY REACH OUT TO THE, TO THE AREAS, UH, IN THE CORRIDORS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. I'VE SPOKEN AT JOSE'S. YES. UH, ALL THE TENANTS THERE, THEY'RE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT. THEY JUST DUNNO HOW IT'S GONNA REALLY WORK. AND OF COURSE, HOW COULD ANYONE KNOW? IT'S, IT'S REALLY TOO EARLY. ONE THING, OF COURSE, THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IS THE EXISTING BUS PULLOUTS ALONG 1 79. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE IN A PLACE THAT ARE GONNA, THAT, THAT WILL WORK FOR THIS SYSTEM. WELL, WHEN WE DID OUR SITE VISIT, WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT ALL THOSE EXISTING BUS PULLOUTS, WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE, IT'S GREAT TO INVENTORY AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY UTILIZE THOSE IF, IF WE CAN. OKAY. VICE MAYOR. SO WHAT ARE THE DELIVERABLES THAT WE'LL BE GETTING FROM THIS PLANNING CONTRACT? AND THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WOULDN'T IT BE A GOOD IDEA TO INVOLVE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY RIGHT UP FRONT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM THE REPORT AND SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT IS OUR INTENT, UH, TO, TO HAVE LIKE CHAMBER, THE BUSINESSES INVOLVED IN THE ENGAGEMENT AND THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, THE DELIVERS DELIVERABLES OF THIS PROJECT, UH, IS, IS TASKED IN DIFFERENT STEPS. UH, THEY'LL LOOK AT THREE ALIGNMENTS. UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME INPUT AND, UH, THEY'LL PROVIDE OPERATING FIGURES, CAPITAL NEEDS. AND THEN AS IT'S IDENTIFIED TO A, A PREFERRED OPTION, THEY WILL EVEN PROVIDE MORE ANALYSIS ON SCHEDULES, STOPS, COSTS, CAPITAL NEEDS, AND A TRUE LIKE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT. UH, ALL BASED ON, UH, ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION AND LOOKING AT THE PARTNERS. SO THOSE ARE THE DELIVERABLES WE'LL SEE IN A REPORT, A FINAL ALIGNMENT THAT IS RECOMMENDED THROUGH A PROCESS OF ENGAGEMENT. SO LET'S ASSUME THAT THEY'RE ON TIME, WHICH BE JANUARY. I'LL JUST GIVE THEM A MONTH. WOULD WE BE READY AS WE GO INTO THE 27TH BUDGET CYCLE TO, YOU KNOW, BE ASKING FOR FUNDING? YES. THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT OUT OF THIS PLAN IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE FIGURES AND THE, THE EXPENSES OF THE SERVICE WITH SOME, SOME, SOME OPERATIONAL AND FAIR STRUCTURES ALSO IS A DELIVERABLE ON THIS AS WELL, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT AS WE, WE PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A ANNETTE QUESTION OR A BARBARA QUESTION, BUT, SO LET'S SAY AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE BEST CIRCUMSTANCES. WE GET THIS PLAN IN JANUARY. WE'RE [01:00:01] HOPEFULLY WE'D BE READY FOR US DURING OUR, OUR INITIAL BUDGET AND AT LEAST WE WOULD HAVE SOME, WHICH IS IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, RIGHT? SORRY, SORRY, HE WAS ASKING ME QUESTION. AT THE SAME TIME, OUR, OUR, WHEN WE, WE'LL HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS, OUR INITIAL BUDGET MEETINGS IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY. CORRECT. WITH THE PRIORITY SETTING AND ALL OF THAT AND THE RETREAT. AND THEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL PLAN, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH OF A DRAFT THAT WE'LL HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT THE COSTS ARE GONNA BE. MM-HMM . SO THEN AS WE KNOW FROM BOTH THE SHUTTLE AND THE CONNECT, THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES DELAYED OUR IMPLEMENTATION BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO LET'S SAY WE'RE GONNA COMMIT TO THIS AND WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND IT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO ORDER BUSES. NOW THE BUSES MAY TAKE 18 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IMPROVED. IT'S IMPROVED A LITTLE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 12 MONTHS TO 15 MONTHS NOW. OKAY. SO IT'S YOUR QUESTION HOW WE HANDLE THE, CAN WE PLACE AN ORDER YES. BEFORE WE'RE IN THE BUDGET YEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM. YES. BECAUSE THE TRANSACTION OCCURS WHEN THE ITEM IS RECEIVED. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. AND THE TRANSIT FUND IS A STANDALONE FUND WITH ITS OWN CONTINGENCIES, RESERVE, ET CETERA. AND SO WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE, SO ARE YOU ASKING LIKE IN FY 26 THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO, COULD WE PLACE THE ORDER BEFORE JUNE 30TH KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE PAYMENT IN FY 27 OR 28? I MEAN, WHO KNOWS WHEN THEY'RE GONNA ARRIVE? I BELIEVE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. YEAH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT THAT'S THE LONG POLE IN THE TENT, WE WANNA GET AHEAD OF IT IF WE'RE GONNA BE COMMITTED TO DOING THIS. ALL OF THIS IS ALL THEORETICAL. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANALYSIS. BUT I'M JUST THINKING AHEAD AND THE, HAVING MET WITH THE, THE OWNER OF SOME BUSINESSES IN NORTH TILLOCK, IT BROUGHT HOME, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE FACING AND THE IMPACT THAT THE UNDERPASS HAS HAD OR THE CLOSING OF THIS, OF THIS, OF THE, UH, CROSSWALK. AND THIS COULD HELP THEM A LOT. THIS COULD BE A BIG, BIG CHANGE. YEAH. A BIG BOOST FOR THEM WHILE WE MAINTAIN OUR POSITION ON THE CROSSWALK, YOU KNOW, TO CLOSE IT DURING THE BUSIEST TIMES. WELL, THOSE BUSIEST TIMES IS WHEN THEY HAVE THE MOST TRAFFIC. SO IF WE WANNA STRIKE A BALANCE AND HELP OUR COMMUNITY, SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE ONE WAY IN WHICH THAT COULD YES. AND I BRING THEM RELIEF. I'VE ALREADY HEARD INTEREST FROM THE BUSINESS FOLKS ABOUT THAT, SO, AND I'M SURE THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND I, I THINK WE WOULD FIND THE SAME THING. SURE. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT IT DOES, IT DOES MAKE IT MUCH MORE REAL THAN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO IS ACTUALLY FACING THAT. RIGHT. I THINK I'M MEETING WITH THE SAME PERSON MAYBE, OR A DIFFERENT PERSON. I KNOW I'M MAY MEETING WITH THE SAME PERSON THAT THE VICE MAYOR'S MEETING WITH. SO THEY'RE GETTING THE POINT. I THINK THEY'LL MEET WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AS WELL. BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER WITH ALL THE MERCHANTS ON THE NORTH SIDE. THAT WOULD REALLY BE A TURNING POINT FOR THEM, EVEN KNOWING IT'S REALLY GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S NOT JUST SMOKE. SO YEAH, WE'LL PLAN TO GET WITH THE MERCHANTS ON BOTH SIDES THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. EVEN IF YOU DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN LATER AND JUST SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING. WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO YOU LATER. BUT WE ARE HERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK. WE NEED THAT CROSSWALK WITH WHATEVER THE DETERMINATION IS, UH, TO CLOSE, OPEN WHATEVER SCHEDULES, WHATEVER IT IS WE ARE, WE ARE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU AND WE'RE GONNA BRING YOU MORE BUSINESS. SO IF THAT COULD WORK OUT WITH YOU AND THEN EXPEDITE THOSE BUSES FOR THE, SO IT ALL TIMES UP WITH THE OPENING OF THE PARKING GARAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHATEVER YOUR PLAN IS. PETE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING I'M SURE TO ADD, NOT PRESUPPOSING A DECISION. NO, NOT AT ALL. THANK YOU. NO, NO, NO. I UNDERSTAND. BUT I'M JUST THINKING AHEAD, RIGHT? YES, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE, I MEAN, THEY'RE CRITICAL. THOSE BUSINESSES ARE CRITICAL TO ALL OF US IN THIS CITY. SO I WANNA WORK WITH THEM AS BEST WE CAN. DEREK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? JUST THAT I THINK I'M MEETING WITH THE SAME PERSON NEXT WEEK, SO. OH, YOU REALLY? YEAH. I'LL BE MEETING WITH THEM SOONER, BUT I HAVE [01:05:01] TO GO TO CANADA . OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BUT THANKS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE UPDATE ON THIS. THIS IS REALLY, AND, AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING, LIKE WE JUST HAD THE KICKOFF. WE'RE WE'VE ESTABLISHED MEETINGS. WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THE ENGAGEMENT AND THE INFORMATION PROCESS SO WE CAN REPORT OUT AT THE NEXT SIM UPDATE OR ANY ADDITIONAL AS WE PROGRESS ON THIS STUDY. AMBER, IF I COULD, THE STIP DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN ELEMENT OF AN UPTOWN CIRCULATOR IN IT, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IT IS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS A, A TR LIKE A CIRCULATOR THAT GOES FROM THE HUB TO, UH, THE UPTOWN. AND AS WE CONSOLIDATED PARKING AND CONSTRUCTED AND APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GARAGE, THIS CAME OUT OF IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANDY WANTS TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT THIS, THIS CAME OUT OF IT IN TERMS OF THE NEEDS WITH THE CONSOLIDATED PARKING MODEL IN TERMS OF MAKING IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT TO ALLEVIATE THOSE PAIN POINTS, GET ON A VE GET ON A, A CIRCULATOR TO GO TO THOSE KEY AREAS TO IMPROVE THE FLOW BETWEEN THE AREAS. I THINK YOU SAID IT WELL. OKAY. YEAH, . SO J JUST KEEP IT. SO IT WAS NOT PART OF THE, THE, THE INITIAL ROLLOUT, BUT NEITHER WAS LIKE A CONSOLIDATED PARKING APPROACH THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT 'CAUSE JUST TRANSIT BASED ON SIM WAS INVOLVED IN THAT. SO, K KEEPING THAT IN MIND, I SUSPECT THAT YOU WERE GONNA GO THERE ANYHOW, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO IT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE SOME DECISIONS OF REPRIORITIZING THE STIP. I THINK WE'VE STUFFED MAYBE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN IT THAT MAYBE WEREN'T IN THERE. IT'S ALL FINE THAT WE, WE MADE CONSCIOUS DECISIONS, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T YET REPUBLISHED WHAT THE WHOLE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE YET. AND I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE IN FUTURE SLIDES. AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO REVISIT THAT. AND JUST COMING IN AND, AND BEAR WITH ME, I'VE BEEN HERE LESS THAN FOUR MONTHS, I THINK AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT LIKE WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN TERMS OF THE LENS OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AT, LIKE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT IS OUR NEXT, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. UH, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE WHAT'S AHEAD, BUT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT, JUST KIND OF TAKING A NEW EYE, LOOKING AT THAT AND ESTABLISHING WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IMPLEMENTATION LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD. SO TO YOUR POINT, PETE, ABSOLUTELY. UM, I THINK THAT EACH OF THESE STUDIES WAS DONE INDEPENDENT OF THE OTHER STUDY. RIGHT. INFORMED BY IT, BUT YEAH. WELL, NO, SOMETIMES NOT EVEN INFORMED DIFFERENT SILOS. SO NOW I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT TOGETHER. WE'RE TRYING . YES, NO, WE ARE. THEY, IT ALL BUILDS UPON WITH ALL THE PLANS AND EVEN IN THE, UH, SEDONA, UH, COMMUNITY PLAN, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, THAT IT ENCOUNTERED JUST IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE DELAYS AND, UH, CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES WITH LIKE TRAILHEAD. THINGS WERE JUST, UH, POPPED UP QUICKER SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE LATER. SO WE SEE THAT IN, IN LIKE MASTER TRANSIT PLANS. IT HAPPENS. SO YOU JUST REVISIT IT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT UNDER KIND OF CURRENT MARKETS, THE SITUATION, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AS A COMMUNITY. THINGS ARE A LOT DIFFERENT TOO THAN THEY WERE WHEN, WHEN WE DID THE PLAN. SO STILL REAL, REAL GREAT INFORMATION AND DATA THOUGH, IN TERMS OF THE, THERE'S SOLID, SOLID ROUTES, SOLID NEXT STEPS IN THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. BUT TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT IT, REESTABLISHING THOSE PRIORITIES ARE ALWAYS GOOD TO LOOK AT. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND LOOK AT IT UNDER THE TERMS OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, UH, OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE MUST KEEP PACE, UH, TO CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN THE MOMENTUM AND SUPPORT OUR ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT AND PUT ON SYSTEM. UH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR PHYSICAL, UH, PHYSICAL SYSTEMS THAT, UH, SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS. UH, WE'VE BEGUN OUR NEW, UH, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CENTER DESIGN. WE'VE KICKED THAT OFF. UH, THIS FACILITY WILL CONSOLIDATE OPERATIONS DISPATCH, ADMINISTRATIVE AND VEHICLE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE. CURRENTLY, UH, THESE ARE KIND OF DISJOINT, LIKE SEPARATED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY. OUR ADMINISTRATION IS IN THE BREWER FACILITY OPERATIONS IS AT A TEMPORARY UA SITE THAT WAS ALWAYS ESTABLISHED AS TEMPORARY. UH, AND OUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE IS DONE BY ABOUT 10 TO 12 DIFFERENT VENDORS, UH, FOR OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, OUR REPAIRS, AND OUR WARRANTY WORK. SO THIS WOULD HOUSE, UH, THE KEY, THE STAFF FOR ALL OF THOSE FUNCTIONS [01:10:01] INTO ONE FACILITY. UH, THE DESIGN PHASE WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED THROUGH A FEDERAL GRANT. UH, BUT CONSTRUCTION WILL REQUIRE A DEDICATED GRANT FUNDED STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. UM, THIS DRAFT IMAGE IS A CONCEPT, JUST A REAL QUICK CONCEPT DRAWING OF THE FACILITY. UH, WE ARE IN THAT, THAT INITIAL DESIGN PHASE. WE DO PLAN TO COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UH, WITH MORE INFORMATION AND WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE ACTIVITIES OF THIS PROCESS AND PRESENT THAT TO YOU ALL TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION. UH, WHAT WE DO KNOW NOW IS THAT, UH, THE FACILITY WILL HAVE THREE MAINTENANCE SPACE, A FUELING STATION, UH, ROOM TO HOUSE, ALL THE STAFF, UH, FOR THE FUNCTIONS OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM. AND, UH, THERE'S ROOM TO GROW AND TRANSITION TO A, THE FLEET TO ZERO EMISSIONS. UM, AND THERE'S ALSO ROOM TO EXPAND AND BUILD A FUTURE PARK AND RIDE LOT. IT'S ON THIS IMAGE AND, BUT IT WILL BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD, UH, CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY. PETE, AMBER, A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE FOR YOU ON THIS. DID THE STIP CONTEMPLATE A MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS CENTER? IS THAT IN IT? YES, IT WAS. ONE OF THE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE INITIAL GROUNDWORK WAS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF THE FOUNDATION AND THE BACKBONE OF THE SYSTEM TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL SERVICES. AND ARE WE LOOKING AT IT IN A MODULAR, I'LL USE THAT WORD MODULAR WAY AT ALL, THAT ARE WE GONNA GROW THE SIZE AS THE, AS IN IF THE SYSTEM GROWS, OR ARE WE BUILDING IT FOR THE FULL SHUTTLE SHUTTLE CONNECT, UPTOWN CIRCULATOR, FIXED ROUTES. ANDY HAS COMMENT. PART OF MY, PART OF MY THINKING IS, GOD FORBID, RIGHT, THAT THERE'S NO MORE FEDERAL MONEY FOR TRANSIT PROGRAMS LEFT AND ALL AS WE DO INTO THE FUTURE. IS THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE AND THE SHUTTLE CONNECT, ARE WE GONNA BE WAY OVERSIZED HERE? ARE WE THINKING ABOUT IT? MODULARLY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO START. WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A, AS A 50 YEAR PLAN, BUT ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRANSIT SERVICES. UH, IT CAN ACCOMMODATE, UH, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT IT WILL ALSO ACCOMMODATE UP TO ABOUT 40 VEHICLES. BUT THERE IS ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. SO THAT'S THE INITIAL DESIGN. THERE'S SOME, I DON'T HAVE A CURSOR TO USE HERE, OR, OR A POINTER, BUT THERE'S A DASHED AREA TO THE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE ROOM FOR EXPANSION. YEAH, THAT EXPANSION AREA IS TO THE RIGHT BECAUSE WHAT YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT OF THE DEVELOPED SPACE IS OPEN SPACE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE COULD EXPAND OUR TRANSIT SERVICES, OUR PARTNERS TRANSIT SERVICES, AS WELL AS EXPAND INTO OTHER, UH, CITY FLEET. UH, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE FIRE DISTRICT OR OTHERS FOR FLEET SERVICES OUTSIDE OF JUST BUS FLEET SERVICES. WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED, UH, UH, INTEREST FROM VALLEY VERDE CAREGIVERS AS WELL AS COTTONWOOD AREA TRANSIT TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE. SHE GOES AGAIN, . DID I SAY IT AGAIN? YOU DID. THAT'S OKAY. I DUNNO WHAT IT'S SORRY. DOLLAR THE NEXT TIME THAT HAPPENS. APOLOGIES. A JAR, CHIP JAR OVER THERE. . I SAID IT TWICE, BUT IT WAS ONE THING, RIGHT? . SO I, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THAT THE ANSWER THAT I HEARD, WE ARE GONNA BUILD THIS LEASE, THIS INITIAL PLAN, BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND OUR FUTURE. MM-HMM . UPTOWN CIRCULATOR, FIXED ROUTES. YES. YES. EVERYTHING. AND WE'RE BUILDING IT IN A WAY THAT IT'S EXPANDABLE FOR EVEN BEYOND THAT. EVEN BEYOND THAT. YEP. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, SO THIS WOULD BE FOR ANDY, WHERE ARE YOU WITH WORKING WITH, IS IT NACOG FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT 89 A AT THE ENTRANCE? UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD FOR THE SAFETY OF ENTERING AND, UH, EXITING? I I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO A MODERN ROUNDABOUT. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SORRY, THEY'RE DIFFERENT. SO I, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT , YOU'RE THE ENGINEER. SO THAT, THAT'S IN THE PLAN TO PURSUE THAT FOR THIS YEAR FOR DESIGN. UH, WE HAVE NOT KICKED THAT OFF JUST YET, BUT THAT'LL BE COMING UP THIS NEXT WELL, SO LIKE, JUST TO GET APPROVED AND MOVING FORWARD THAT QUICK EITHER. SO, BUT DO YOU THINK THERE'S A HOPE, A GLIMMER OF, SO, BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO SEE ALL THESE BUSES COMING AND GOING AT THAT INTERSECTION IS REALLY DANGEROUS. YES. THE, A COUPLE OF CRITICAL THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED FOR BOTH THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS THE INTERSECTION [01:15:01] PROJECT IS GONNA BE THAT GRANT FUNDING, RIGHT? BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE, UM, PRIORITIES THAT OVERLAP ON BOTH THE FACILITY, THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, AND THE INTERSECTION. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, CONNECTIONS TO FORCED LAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'LL BE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WE PORT, UH, POINTED OUT THE PARK AND RIDE. UM, THAT CAN BE PART OF THIS PLAN AS WELL. THAT'S JUST ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT WE WOULD SEE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AND FURTHER, UM, SOLIDIFY THE NEED FOR A IMPROVED, UH, INTERSECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AMBER. SO AT THE SAME TIME WITH THIS DESIGN, WE'RE DEVELOPING A BUSINESS ANALYSIS TO KIND OF GUIDE HOW THIS FACILITY WILL FUNCTION AND HOW IT'LL BE FINANCED AND LOOK AT THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AS WELL, UH, ENSURING THAT WE'RE ALIGNING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH OUR SERVICE NEEDS. UH, IN LIGHT OF THIS STIP AND, UH, FURTHER IMPLEMENTATION OF SERVICES, UH, IT WILL OUTLINE CAPITAL NEEDS, FUNDING STRATEGIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR REGIONAL COLLABORATION AND FUNDING PARTNERSHIP. AS I, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, WE'VE HAD TWO INTERESTED PARTIES. VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS SAID IT WRONG. HEY, GOT IT. THIRD TIME IS A CHARM. MY APOLOGIES. AND, UH, IT'S ALL GOOD. COTTONWOOD AREA TRANSIT HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED INTEREST. WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL DESIGN KICKOFF OF THIS IN TERMS OF REVENUE SUPPORT FOR THIS FACILITY. AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE IDENTIFIED, UH, FARES OR FEES THAT WE COULD PROVIDE TO SUPPORT, UH, THE FUNCTIONS OF THIS FACILITY OR JUST EXPENSES, UH, WOULD BE, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE TO LOOK AT FEES FOR PARKING AT OUR PARK AND RIDE LOTS OR FARES FOR THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES, UH, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY GENERATE ABOUT 270 TO 350,000 ANNUALLY. AND THAT IS JUST A REAL LOW FEE ESTIMATE, UH, JUST BACK OF THE NAPKIN, UH, ESTIMATE. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED AND THAT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IN TERMS OF THIS BUSINESS ANALYSIS GUY, ADVICE MAYOR. SO IS THERE A PHASED IN APPROACH THAT WOULD, UH, ALLOW US TO DEFRAY SOME OF THE COSTS UNTIL WE GOT MORE, YOU KNOW, SO LET'S SAY THAT YOU HAD TWO INTERESTED PARTIES, BUT ONCE THE KICKS OFF AND PEOPLE SEE IT, THEN MORE PEOPLE WANNA JOIN. BUT DO WE WANNA BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME, OR WE WANNA BUILD IT TO KNOW WE CAN AFFORD IT AND THEN ADD LATER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR THINKING ABOUT THAT? I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF OUR BUSINESS PLAN, RIGHT? MM-HMM . . AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY. IF OUT OF THIS CRITERIA WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING, PLEASE LET US KNOW. YEAH. LET US KNOW. UM, I'M SURE WE WILL DEVELOP ADDITIONAL, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPONENTS TO THIS AS WE GO THROUGH AS WELL. BUT, UM, AS WE MOVE INTO ACTUALLY DOING A BUSINESS PLAN, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK. IF YOU HAVE IT, WE'VE INCLUDED ALL THE ELEMENTS. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE, UH, AGENDA BILL, AS WELL AS ON THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. SO IF YOU THINK OF OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, SUCH AS THE SUGGESTION ABOUT LIKE THE IMPLEMENTATION BASED ON ON WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY VERSUS FUTURE, PLEASE LET US KNOW. SO ANDY OR AMBER, I'M NOT SURE WHO, I GUESS IT WOULD BE HANDY IT, WOULD THIS BE THE MOST UNIQUE FACILITY OF ITS KIND IN THE VERDE VALLEY, OR IS THERE ANY OTHER TYPE OF COMPETITION? I DON'T WANNA SAY THE LARGEST BECAUSE THAT THAT'S, IS JUST UNIQUE ON WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR IN THE VERDE VALLEY. IT WOULD BE. SO WOULD THERE BE A POSSIBILITY OF ADDING A, FOR POLICE VEHICLES WHERE WE CAN HAVE, I WOULD BET THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE VERDE VALLEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CENTRAL PLACE INSTEAD OF SENDING THEIR CARS DOWN TO PHOENIX TO BE OUTFITTED OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT VISION IS. AND THEY COULD PAY INTO IT INSTEAD OF GOING TO A MECHANIC SHOP. THEY COULD DO IT WITH US, HOWEVER YOU WOULD FIGURE IT OUT. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO PARTNER WITH THE OTHER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES HERE. THE OTHER FOUR THAT WILL BE A POSSIBILITY. UM, IT AGAIN, THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT WITH THE NO, I UNDERSTAND. BUT, UM, BUT ON THE HORIZON, IT'S IN YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS. IT IS. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WERE VERY CAREFUL TO SAY WHERE YOU BUILD THE EXPANDABLE AREA, MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT CUT OFF BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIMIT OF THAT NEEDS TO BE. UM, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY ENGAGING WITH OUR, OUR CONSULTING FOLKS ON THIS PROJECT TO HELP BUILD THIS BUSINESS PLAN. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO REACH OUT TO OTHER PROPERTIES [01:20:01] THAT THEY WORK WITH THAT HAVE SIMILAR ARRANGEMENTS AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR THEM. AND SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO LEARN FROM THEIR LESSONS AND, AND BUILD ONTO THAT. AND I'M NOT EVEN SUGGESTING AT THE BEGINNING PHASE, I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER. RIGHT. BUT I KNOW IN TALKING TO THE OTHER MAYORS, THEY COULD REALLY USE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN ALL, WE COULD ALL GO TOGETHER. SO YEAH, THE CONCEPT RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE NOT DESIGN THIS OR DEVELOP IT IN A WAY THAT LIMITS US FROM THOSE POSSIBILITIES. GREAT. PETE, YOU HAD SOMETHING AND THEN KATHY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I'M SUPER HAPPY TO HEAR THAT KAT AND THE VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST. ARE WE BEING PROACTIVE IN WIDER MAYOR, THAT MIGHT EVEN BE A QUESTION TO YOU IN THE MAYOR'S MEETING. HAVE YOU ASKED OTHER PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN THE CONVERSATION? I HAVE CITY MANAGERS, OR ARE WE ACTIVELY GOTTEN OUT THERE TO SCHOOLS? POLICE, FIRE, I MEAN, COULD, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU GOTTA CAST THE NET WIDE TO SEE HOW MANY FISH ARE OUT THERE. THE ONLY ONE THAT REALLY HAS BEEN AN OBSTACLE, ANNETTE WILL UNDERSTAND THIS, IS THE COLLEGE AND ASKING THEM TO PARTNER BY USING THAT FOR A MECHANIC MECHANICS EDUCATIONAL FACILITY. MM-HMM . THEY'RE VERY RESISTANT TO DOING THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BE, WE'LL BE BUILDING IT, BUT THEY DON'T EVEN WANNA PARTNER WITH US. I MEAN, OR MAYBE WON'T WE START, MAYBE THEY'LL BE MORE OPEN TO IT. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S FINE IF A, AN ENTITY WANTS TO SAY NO, BUT IF WE HEAR FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT THEY NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS UNTIL IT GOT KIND OF TOO LATE. WELL, ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANNETTE JOINS ME MOST OF THESE MEETINGS, UH, I THINK ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD, ABSOLUTELY. AND I, ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD, IT IS ALMOST A LITTLE TOO LATE. IT'S NOW, NO, BUT WE'RE MOVING ON THIS, BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO THE MAYORS A ALONG THE WAY AND YEAH, YOU WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. BUT THERE, THERE'S GOT VERY HIGH LEVEL INTEREST. YEAH. YEAH. GOOD. AND, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT, KATHY. YEAH. UM, WHEN WE SAY PARTNER, WHAT DO WE MEAN EXACTLY BY THAT? BECAUSE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE AND THEN THERE WOULD BE INPUT IN, WELL, WE HAVE THESE NEEDS, SO WE WANNA DICTATE THESE SORT OF DESIGN FEATURES OR WELL, I, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. LEMME FINISH THE QUESTION. SO, OR ARE WE SAYING WE'RE JUST GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS IN A WAY THAT WE THINK AND ANTICIPATE AND PROJECT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE BECAUSE WE ARE CONTROLLING THE CENTER AND CHARGE BACK FOR SERVICES IN, OR INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENTS, WHATEVER WE DO WITH THAT. BUT I, I, I, I JUST, THERE'S ALWAYS TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIP AND I'M ALL FOR COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP, BUT I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS AND SOMEDAY THEY'LL COME BACK TO US WITH THAT INFORMATION. RIGHT NOW, I THINK, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR A BROAD SORT OF UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE AS PETE POINTED OUT LATER, IT'S TOO LATE. I MEAN, I WANTED, I WANT SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING SOONER OF, IN BROADLY WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE HEADING WITH THAT. YEAH. IF, IF I CAN TAP INTO THAT THOUGH SO WE CAN, BECAUSE, UH, CERTAINLY ON MY LIST HERE TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE, THE IDEA OF REGIONALIZATION AND THE STEP TALKS ABOUT IT, BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY RECOMMEND ANYTHING. AND I DON'T BELIEVE STAFF HAS GOT ANY DIRECTION YET TO PURSUE ANY REGIONALIZATION IDEAS. AND THAT'S A POLICY SORT OF DECISION THAT I THINK IS TIMELY FOR US REALLY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT. TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE. WELL, IS THAT SOMETHING WE, WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT NOW 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS PLAN. THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT MAYBE, I THINK IT'S OKAY. WELL, IT'S RELATED. I WOULD, YEAH, I'M FINE WITH, I I WOULD LOVE TO BECAUSE I BETTER NOW THAN OR LAST WEEK AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. SO IF WE CAN GIVE THEM THE STAFF THE DIRECTION OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. I, I'M ALL FOR THIS IDEA. SO IF I MAY, UM, I, I WOULD THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACILITY IS DESIGNED TO MEET OUR NEEDS UNDER THIS FTA GRANT FOR OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. AND THAT THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING OR WHATEVER IS CONSTRUCTED IN A MANNER THAT IT'S VERY EASY FOR A PARTNER. MEANING, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ENTITY WANTS TO COME IN AND BUILD THEIR OWN BAY ON NEXT TO IT. THEY COULD EITHER PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES VERSUS US BUILDING IT. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD ABOUT ADDING ONTO OUR CORE BUILDING THAT'S BEING DONE TO SUPPORT OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS, OKAY, FIRE DEPARTMENT, SCHOOL DISTRICT, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPRESSED, UM, GENERAL INTEREST, UM, THE FOLKS THAT AMBER MENTIONED, UM, IF THEY WANT DEDICATED SPACE TO SERVICE THEIR VEHICLES IN WHATEVER WAY THAT'S GONNA BE, [01:25:01] THEN THERE WOULD BE THAT OPPORTUNITY. IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WE JUST WANNA DROP 'EM OFF ONCE IN A WHILE AND HAVE THE CITY'S MECHANIC WORK ON IT AND WE DO A FEE FOR SERVICE MODEL. OKAY, FINE. UM, THERE'S, THAT WILL ALL COME OUT THROUGH THIS ON THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW TO INCORPORATE OTHER USERS OF THE FACILITY AND WHAT THOSE OPTIONS COULD BE IN TERMS OF A REGIONAL GOVERNANCE MODEL. I THINK THAT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE TOPIC THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AGENDIZED BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU WANT CREATE, I THINK, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT'S RUNNING THIS SYSTEM THAT IS NOT THE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE AREA ENTITIES THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. AND THERE'S SOME KIND OF SHARED GOVERNANCE MODEL OVER HOW THE SYSTEM IS RUN. AND I THINK THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION THAT WE DON'T HAVE TEED UP FOR YOU TODAY TO DO A, A REAL THOUGHTFUL, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION AROUND WHETHER WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL. WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE OR NOT, UM, FOR YOU GUYS TO CHEW ON. SO I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE, WHICH IS, THAT'S WHAT I DISCUSSION THAT TIMEFRAME IS MORE WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. BUT I WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING SOONER, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE SHARED GOVERNANCE AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE DISPATCH CENTER IS LOOKING AT TOO, RIGHT? IN THE FUTURE IS SHARED GOVERNANCE. RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS YET BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY DESIGNED VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD A A POINT YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM MY COLLEAGUES. I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF IT AS A SHARED GOVERNANCE CENTER. NO. SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THAT WAY? I, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GET THIS ON THE TABLE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE ALL THINKING. SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S ON YOUR ALL MINDS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE LOOK AT. BUT I MEAN, I, I AM, I'M INTERESTED IN RETAINING CONTROL OVER THIS, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING THE LEAD. IT'S OUR PROPERTY, IT'S, IT OUR MONEY. WE HAVE THE GROWING SYSTEM. SO FAR IT'S OUR MONEY. BUT IF THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP, THAT WOULD CHANGE, RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE CONTRIBUTIONS. BUT, BUT, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW IF THAT IS WHERE WE'RE ALL THINKING. SO WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIP? 'CAUSE AGAIN, THESE ARE POLICY DISCUSSIONS AS WELL. WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT TO HAVE A MODEL TO BE ABLE TO GIVE, PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, BUT WE NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT WE NEED. SO, UM, IT'S CHICKEN AND EGG, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WE'LL GET TO AT THE END OF THE MEETING. AND THEN IT, WE GIVE IT TO ANNETTE AND ANDY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS FOR THEM. WOULD THAT BE, BUT IS THIS WHERE WE'RE GOING? SOME OF IT, SOME OF IT'S DIRECTION. WE'RE THIS IS A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT DIRECTION, RIGHT? OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT. TALKING ABOUT NOW WE'RE, OUR DIRECTION IS FOR THIS PLAN, RIGHT? IF I, NO, THIS IS NOT ABOUT, ABOUT AGENDIZED. IS THAT OUR DIRECTION? IS THAT WHERE PEOPLE WANNA GO? THAT'S MY QUESTION, RIGHT. TO MY COLLEAGUES. RIGHT. MONIQUE? I DON'T KNOW IF I, I'M ON THE, THE AGENDA ITEM, THE WAY I READ IT IS THAT THE, UH, PROPOSED TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY, THAT THE CONVERSATION, THE AGENDA ITEM IS SUPPOSED TO BE AROUND CAPITAL PLANNING EFFORTS. AND SO WE ARE GETTING MORE INTO THE POLICY AS OPPOSED TO CAPITAL PLANNING. WELL, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND IT IS IN THERE, IT'S JUST NOT A RECOMMENDATION. IT IS ABOUT CAPITAL. SO HOW WE AFFORD IT, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN WHAT A REGIONAL GOVERNANCE MODEL WOULD LOOK LIKE, WE ARE HAPPY TO AND THE PROS AND CONS. AND WHY DID THE DIS WHY DID THE YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY. DISPATCH THE DISPATCH CENTER, CHOOSE A REGIONAL MODEL. AND YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T MADE, THEY HAVEN'T DECISION, BUT I WANT TO THINK ABOUT 'CAUSE THERE'S EFFICIENCIES AND INEFFICIENCIES, BUT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT. I UNDERSTAND. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE DISPATCH CENTER HAS NOT PREPARE INFORMATION TO BRING BACK TO YOU TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THAT DESCRIBES, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WOULD FUNCTION AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. IF THERE'S A MAJORITY COUNCIL THAT WANTS TO EXPLORE THE REGIONAL GOVERNANCE IDEA, WE CAN CERTAINLY PREPARE INFORMATION. IS THAT INCLUDED RIGHT NOW IN THIS BUSINESS PLAN WITH THIS CONSULTANT FOR, I BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD AMBER SAY IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA FLUSH OUT WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOW TO FINANCE THIS, HOW TO DO PARTNERSHIPS. WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHO'S GONNA BE IN CHARGE AND WHO'S STEERING THE SHIP? WHO'S GOING TO BE MAKING THE LEGAL DECISIONS ABOUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE FINANCING. SO, SO TO, TO MY POINT IF I COULD JUST CONTINUE, IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A COST TO THAT. THERE'S GONNA BE TIME SPENT ON THAT. BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. HOW MUCH TIME AND MONEY ARE WE GONNA SPEND TO GO DOWN THAT PATH? AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN TERMS OF [01:30:01] DELAY OR NOT DELAY? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE, WELL, I THINK WE CAN, I THINK IT COULD BE COMPLICATED. THEY, THEY'RE ALL COMPLICATED. TALK ABOUT THE, THE GOVERNANCE MODELS THAT ARE OPTIONS. I THINK, UM, DID YOU GUYS TALK WITH THE CURRENT CONSULTANTS AT ALL ABOUT THAT ASPECT? WE HAVE NOT. IT'S, IT'S OUTLINED IN THE CURRENT, LIKE IN THE STEP, IT, IT KIND OF LAYS OUT THE PROS AND CONS OF THE DIFFERENT, SO I THINK, I THINK STAFF WISE WE CAN WRITE UP, I MEAN THERE ARE MODELS OUT THERE THAT EXIST ALREADY FOR HOW TO DO THESE IN OUR GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS. UM, SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO LIKE, HIRE A CONSULTANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. UM, I MIGHT HAVE A SUGGESTION AS WELL AS WE COULD ENGAGE WITH NACO. 'CAUSE YEAH, WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. UM, CAN WE JUST WATCH OUR, OUR MICS CLOSE TO SOMEONE'S PHONE OR SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSING THAT STATIC AND I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. UM, MIGHT BE LIKE A MINI NACON. RIGHT? OKAY. WELL, MELISSA AND THEN DEREK AND THEN WE HAVE TO MOVE ON. WE HAVE A LOT TO GO, BUT WE HAVE A TIMEFRAME HERE. SO FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE. I THINK HAVING A DISCUSSION AROUND A GOVERNANCE SHARED, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK IT WAS ON ANYBODY'S LAPTOP TOUCHING THE MIC. IT WAS THIS ONE. IT WAS. OKAY. MONIQUE, WHAT'D YOU DO? . . ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOOD NOW. ALRIGHT. PULL, PULL. WERE YOU GOING TO SAY ANYTHING OR? NO, I WAS TRYING TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. MELISSA, THEN WHY DON'T YOU FINISH? SORRY. SO I THINK TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE USE A GOVERNANCE MODEL IS NOT IN SCOPE FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, RIGHT? I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN I READ THE BULLET POINT PHASED IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE ALIGNED WITH SERVICE GROWTH, I READ THAT. I READ THAT AS THIS IS OUR FACILITY. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, UNDERWRITE IT SO THAT WE AS A CITY ARE NOT SPENDING ALL OF OUR OWN FUNDS IN ORDER TO KEEP IT GOING. BUT THEY ARE OUR MAINTENANCE OPERATORS, UM, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. AND OUR PRIORITY WOULD BE, THEREFORE FOR OUR VEHICLES. SO IF WE'VE GOT A PARTNER WHO WANTS TO HAVE THEIR VEHICLE SERVICE, BUT WE NEED TO SERVICE OUR VEHICLES, THEN OURS SHOULD TAKE PRIORITY. AND I THINK WHEN YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT MODE OR A DIFFERENT MODEL, IT'S GONNA BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. MM-HMM . AND SO I, I LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOK AT THAT BULLET POINT AND I JUST, IN MY HEAD GO, I'M GOING TO SEE AT SOME POINT A TIMELINE THAT SAYS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD, HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST, HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT AS WE'RE BUILDING IT. SO AS THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO UNDERWRITE THIS? HOW MUCH OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE US SPENDING CAPITAL UP FRONT VERSUS, WHICH IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A BOND. SO LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS ISN'T GONNA BE CHEAP, RIGHT? AND THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO EITHER PAY THAT BACK IN CAPITAL OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO USE SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY THAT ALLOWS US TO SAY, MAYBE WE'RE GONNA START SMALLER THAN WE WANTED, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT TO SEE WHEN I SEE PHASED IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE ALIGNED WITH SERVICE GROWTH. BUT I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA CHANGE THE MODEL AROUND, AROUND ALL THIS. AND THAT ISN'T TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THE CONVERSATION, THANK YOU. BUT THIS IS TO SAY, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WE WERE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT DO WE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO PRESENT MODEL REGIONALIZATION MODEL ISSUES TO US, OR DO WE SAY DON'T DO IT AND NEVER HAVE THE CONVERSATION THEN? WELL, I, I REMEMBER PRE PREAMBLE, OKAY, SO BACK IN THE ROBERT ERA WHEN HE CAME AND HE PRESENTED HIS VERY LAST SET, ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED ABOUT WERE WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF THE VARIOUS MODELS UNDER WHICH THIS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED, RIGHT? AND IF WE WANTED, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD GO PULL UP HIS SLIDE AND WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AROUND ALL THOSE VARIOUS WAYS. BUT WHAT AT, WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THAT CONVERSATION WAS AT THAT TIME WE ALL SAID, WELL, IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS QUICKLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OWN IT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO PARTNERSHIPS, NOT GOVERNANCE, BUT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION AT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I, AND I'VE, AND I'VE HEARD, UM, OUR CITY MANAGER SAY SHE'S HAPPY TO COME UP AND AGENDIZE THAT AND FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR US TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. RIGHT. I AGREE. SO, OKAY. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. AMBER. EXCUSE ME, AMBER, CONTINUE ON. OKAY. SO, UH, SO WE ARE AT A, AT A, AT A PIVOTAL POINT HERE, KIND OF WHERE DO [01:35:01] WE GO FROM HERE? LIKE WHAT ARE WE, WHAT, HOW DO WE PREPARE FOR THE NEXT PHASE? UH, AS I LOOK AT IT UNDER THE CURRENT LENS OF THE STIP AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND, AND CLEARLY SOME OF THOSE PHASES ARE DELAYED DUE TO THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE ON THE FRONT END DUE TO FUNDING, DUE TO VEHICLE DELAY. YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT. BUT HOW DO WE LOOK AT THE REALITIES, UH, USING OUR EXISTING TRIP DATA TO SHAPE OUR CORE ROUTES? LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY BACK TO THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, UH, FOR OUR, OUR CORE FIXED ROUTE PLANNING, UH, OPTIMIZE AS WE TALKED BEFORE AND OUR CONNECT, WE NEED TO OPTIMIZE AND REFINE OUR SHUTTLE CONNECT SERVICES AND THE ZONES AND LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVED. AND THOSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE SERVICE ZONE, UH, WE NEED TO BE BUILDING OUR PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH ARE KEY, PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF DELIVERING, UH, SERVICE TO THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK. TO OAK CREEK CANYON. IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE TO DEVELOP THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GONNA DELIVER THOSE SERVICES AND THOSE INTERCEPT LOTS TO PROVIDE AND SUPPORT THOSE SERVICES. AND THOSE ARE, ARE LAID OUT IN THE STIFF PLAN. UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES, AS WE TALKED BEFORE, I WON'T GO INTO IT IN DEPTH, BUT WORKING WITH THE FOREST SERVICE ON OUR SUSTAINABLE ACCESS AND THE TOURISM ON WHAT TRAILS WE CAN ADD TO THE NETWORK. WHAT IF THERE'S MODIFICATIONS FROM THE CURRENT, EVEN FROM THE STEP WE, WE, WE IMPLEMENTED TRAILHEADS THAT WEREN'T IN THE INITIAL STEPS AND WE DID OTHERS. SO TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND THEN CLEARLY AS WE LOOK AT THOSE TRAILHEAD EXPANSIONS, LIKE THE VOC UH, EXPANSION WILL BE TIED TO THAT TRAILHEAD, THE BELL ROCK TRAILHEAD, AND SLIDE ROCK WITH, UH, THE EXPANSION OF THOSE SERVICES. SO I THINK THOSE FUNDING PARTNERSHIPS, UH, THOSE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, AND WE ALSO NEED TO PLACE EMPHASIS ON INVESTING IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. UH, WE GOT DELAYED A LITTLE BIT ON THIS OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER, BUT IT IS A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE TO CONTINUE THE GROWTH AND THE MOMENTUM OF THESE SERVICES OUTLINED IN THESE PLANS AND GOALS THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT TO, UH, TO MEET THOSE OBJECTIVES. SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT BULLET FOUR. EXPANDING THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. YET, YET, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MONIQUE IS PREPARED TO ADDRESS GOING OUTSIDE THE CITY INTO THE COUNTY WHERE THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY FUNDING. I THINK YOU HAVE TO BUILD THAT PARTNERSHIP, BUT I DON'T THEY DON'T. YEAH, RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THAT FUNDING. YEAH. OKAY. TO EVEN PARTNER WITH US EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO. BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, UM, THE PARKING, THE ADDITIONAL NEED FOR PARKING OR SPOTS TO PARK. AND LAST I HEARD WE, THERE WAS NO OTHER LOCATIONS FOR LOTS EXCEPT MAYBE THIS, WHAT'S THIS NEW LOT THAT ADOT SELLING, WHICH IS TINY, UH, WHICH IS BY HILLSIDE, UH, OR WHEREVER. YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY SMALL LOT. BUT IF WE WERE TO GO TO BELL ROCK OR SLIDE ROCK, OKAY, ONE WAY OR EVEN HUCKABEE, ARE THERE ANY LOTS AVAILABLE TO PARTNER PURCHASE OR WHATEVER TO IS THAT CAPACITY AVAILABLE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR QUITE A WHILE. I KNOW WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOREST SERVICE, UH, MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. IDEALLY AN INTERCEPT LOT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF THE CITY, RIGHT? SO THAT WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES BEFORE THEY ENTER THE CITY. UM, HOWEVER, BEING ABLE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD IN THE NEAR FUTURE WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. RIGHT? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SOLVE ALONG WITH DEVELOPING THAT CONNECT UH, THAT CONNECTION. SO IS THAT FAIR TO HAVE THAT IN THAT POSITION OR IS THERE NO PARTICULAR POINTS FOR THOSE FIVE, UH, BULLET POINTS THERE NO PARTICULAR ORDER. THEY'RE NOT IN RANK ORDER. THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE JUST ITEMS TO LOOK AT NEXT IN THE, UNDER THE LENS OF THE CURRENT STEP AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR, IN OUR FUNDING AND OUR, OUR PHASED APPROACH WITH IMPLEMENTATION. SO, ALRIGHT. AND THEN ANDY, AM AM I CORRECT, IN FEW PAST MEETINGS WE'VE HAD THAT, UH, SHORT OF THE FOREST SERVICE PROVIDING ANY LAND FOR US THERE, THERE WAS NO PLACE FROM THE, THE CITY SOUTH TO 17 THAT'S AVAILABLE BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S THE LAST TIME I REMEMBER KAREN SAYING THAT YOU GUYS HAD LOOKED AT LAND AS NOTHING. YEAH. THERE, THERE WAS A SUGGESTION MADE BY THE RANGER DISTRICT, BUT IT WAS SO FAR TO THE SOUTH OF VOC, IT WAS NEAR I 17 AS I RECALL. IT MADE NO SENSE. IT YEAH. IT, IT DIDN'T MAKE PRACTICAL SENSE. RIGHT. AND WAS THERE ANY MORE CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF SOUTH, [01:40:01] OF BACK OR BEYOND WHERE WE'VE ASKED THEM, I THINK YOU REMEMBER WE SAID CLOSE DOWN THE TWO TRAIL HEADS UP BY, UH, CATHEDRAL ROCK AND PUT ONE BIGGER LOT. YEAH. UH, ON RIGHT ON UH, 80, UH, 1 79. IT, IT'S A STANDING ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE MEET WITH THE FOREST SERVICE MONTHLY AND WE GET THE STANDING NO ANSWER. RIGHT. IT'S A, IT'S A MAYBE BUT NOT IN A FORESEEABLE FUTURE . RIGHT. UNLESS THEY NEEDED IT. RIGHT. I I GET IT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU PETE. YEAH. UH, JUST ONE LITTLE POINT ON THAT BULLET FOR IT MIGHT SAY IE OR FOR EXAMPLE, YEAH. SO WE'RE, NO ONE SEES THIS SLIDE AND THINKS THAT THERE'S A COMMITMENT HERE TO BE DOING THESE THINGS. , UH, MY QUESTION WAS ON THE LAST THING OPTIMIZED AND IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME, UH, AMBER, TO ASK WHETHER YOUR DATA IS GRANULAR ENOUGH, FINE ENOUGH TO WILL YOU, CAN YOU SEE IN THE CURRENT DATA RIDES ON THE SHUTTLE CONNECT CONNECT THAT ORIGINATE AND, AND IN THE CORE CORRIDOR THAT MIGHT BE SERVED BY A FIXED ROUTE? IS THAT SOME DATA THAT WE CAN GET TO SEE IF ANYONE IS ALREADY USING IT AS A FIXED ROUTE? YES. AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EVEN PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF THE CIRCULATOR STUDY. UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LATITUDE, LONGITUDE, UH, OR ORIGINS AND DESTINATIONS OF THESE TRIPS. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, INCLUDING EXISTING, UH, STOP LEVEL DATA OF VERDE SHUTTLE TO JUST KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING. BUT ALL THIS DATA WE CAN PULL RAW AND UH, THEY CAN HAVE THAT COORDINATE TO LOOK AT. SUPER. GREAT. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR AND MELISSA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED IN LOOKING AT THIS. I MEAN, THE PLANNED CORE ROOTS INFORMED BY MICRO TRANSIT DATA. WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT THE CIRCULATOR? YEAH, WELL, I THINK WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE EXISTING, WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING KIND OF EXISTING WITH OUR MICRO OKAY. EXPANSION OF EXISTS, LOOKING AT EXPANSION, OTHER SERVICES. UH, I THINK, AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ROBERT WAS LIKE, WE PUT THIS SERVICE OUT, WE, IT GIVES US DATA POINTS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, WHICH IN ACTUALITY, YOU CAN TAKE INTO A FIXED ROUTE PLANNING AND SAY IT MIGHT BE BETTER UTILIZED TO PUT A FIXED ROUTE THERE WHEN YOU GET TO A CERTAIN THRESHOLD THAN TO PROVIDE THE, THE MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE. IF YOU PROVIDED A MORE FREQUENT FIXED ROUTE THAT WOULD SERVE THOSE KEY AREAS WHERE THOSE MAJOR TRIP GENERATORS ARE, UH, THAT DATA CAN BE ANALYZED AND PROVIDE US, PROVIDE US SOME STEPS FORWARD. I GUESS I JUST SEE, UH, BULLET ONE AND BULLET FIVE AS NEAR TERM AND THE OTHERS IS REALLY DISTANT. RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I GOING. SO THAT'S WHY YEAH, I KNOW. PRIORITY HERE. CAN YOU, IN, IN FUTURE, UH, PRESENTATIONS, CAN YOU KIND OF PRIORITIZE BY TIMEFRAME? OF COURSE I CAN DO THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WE'RE EVER GONNA GET TO THE VOC RIGHT. FIXED ROUTE UNLESS THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY YEAH. WOULD HAVE TO. I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK THERE'S THOSE, THOSE WHAT WE KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED NEXT FOR THOSE. WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN CONTROL AND WHAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO AND WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE ON A KIND OF A SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM BASIS. SO, AND ARE WE RESTRICTED FROM DOING A, A ROUTE AS OUR OWN CIRCULATOR THROUGH THE VERDE VALLEY BY STATE STATUTE OR GIFTING OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT WOULD BE CALLED THAT WE CAN'T REALLY GO INTO THE VOC OR WE COULD DO IT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW. THERE, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A . OH, THERE YOU GO. AGAIN, IT IS NOT ME AS THAT MICROPHONE. UM, I THINK IT WOULD, UH, DEPEND ON THE STUDIES. IF WE HAD STUDIES THAT SHOWED THAT, UH, SEDONA RESIDENTS ARE UTILIZING OF A FIXED ROUTE SHUTTLE TO THE VOC, THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THAT WITH, UH, CITY UP WOULD BE CITY OF SEDONA FUNDING. SO I THINK WE WOULD JUST, UH, NEED SOME DATA TO SUPPORT, UH, USE OF CITY DOLLARS IF THAT'S A DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO GO. OKAY. I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT. AG PEOPLE. ANDY, ONE THING I WAS GONNA POINT OUT AS WELL, AMBER, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS IS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION OR NOT, BUT THAT AS WE START TO BUILD THE FY 27 BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AN UPDATE TO THE STEP. YEAH. MM-HMM . WERE YOU GETTING TO THAT? I'M SORRY. WELL, I THINK WE WERE JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT KIND OF ON THAT NEXT STEPS AND IN THE DISCUSSION, AND I'M STILL ANALYZING THE DATA, KIND OF IN TERMS OF THE LIGHT OF WHAT WE HAVE ON THE STREET, WHAT WE WANT ON THE STREET, WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE, AND REVISITING THAT STEP TO THE REALITIES OF WHAT [01:45:01] IT IS TODAY. I THINK AS WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET, THAT'LL BE LOOKED AT TO TO, TO, TO, AS YOU INDICATED, LIKE ALL THESE BULLETS ARE, ARE IN THE STIP OF THINGS FOR US TO WORK ON TO ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE US AND GIVE US LIKE AN ACTIONABLE PLAN ON WHAT WE CAN CHEW OFF, YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS, WHAT CAN WE CAN CHEW OFF IN FIVE AND THEN WHAT'S KIND OF A MORE LONG-TERM GOAL USUALLY. SO IT WOULD BE UPDATING THE, THE PLAN, LOOKING AT IT UNDER THE LENS OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY TODAY. SO IT DOES FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE. , YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD VERSUS WHAT WE'VE GOT AND WHAT WE WANNA DO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OUT HERE. AND, UH, IT'S, IT WAS EVEN ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT AS, AS WE IMPLEMENTED SOME ASPECTS, THERE'S STILL MORE TO COME. WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE HANDLE THAT, UH, WITH THE CURRENT REALITIES AND, AND WITH, WITH COUNCIL GUIDANCE AND, AND LEADERSHIP ON, ON WHERE, WHERE THAT'S GONNA TAKE US. AND I WOULD ASSUME I, YOU'RE GONNA GET THIS IN THE NEXT SLIDES, BUT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE NEXT PHASES, IT'S, IT'S NICE TO LOOK AT THESE POTENTIAL DESTINATIONS, BUT THEY NEED TO BE COST INFORMED. YEAH, NUMBER ONE. AND, UH, UH, I LOST TRACK OF THE SECOND THING. , I FEEL LIKE I DID THAT ON THIS SLIDE. I LOST TRACK, SO I APOLOGIZE. SO, UM, CAN I MOVE FORWARD PLEASE? , WE ALREADY POURED TO THE, OH, I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT IT WAS. NOT ONLY COSTUME FORM, BUT NOT ALWAYS THE ROSY SCENARIO INFORMED EITHER WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT CONTINGENCY PLANNING FOR NO ADDITIONAL HELP MONEY AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF THE NEXT PHASE. WELL, AND I WAS, WHILE WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT FUNDING AND GAPS AND KIND OF OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, MEETING THOSE CHALLENGES, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, LIKE I WAS GONNA DISCUSS THAT IN THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHAT WE SEE, UM, UH, OUR CURRENT FUNDING, UH, WE ARE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW MOST OF OUR OPERATION, UH, OUR OPERATING FUNDS ARE COMING FROM LOCAL FUNDS, THE HALF CENT SALES, THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX, AND LOCAL FUNDS. WE RECEIVE A VERY SMALL PORTION IN, IN FEDERAL OPERATIONAL FUNDS. UH, IT'S LAID OUT HERE. WE GET ABOUT 150,000 RIGHT NOW. LESS THAN 10% OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS, IS FEDERAL RIGHT NOW. UM, CLEARLY, AND I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, WHEN WE APPLIED FOR THE FUNDING WITH THE STATE, WHICH, WHICH IS AN ISSUE WITH OUR FUNDING GAPS, WE CAN'T APPLY DIRECTLY FOR FTA FEDERAL FUNDS DUE TO OUR SIZE. SO WE HAVE TO RELY ON THE STATE AS A SUB-RECIPIENT AND THEY APPLY ON OUR BEHALF. SO WE HAVE, THEY HAVE TWO YEAR CYCLES BASED ON THEIR ALLOCATIONS THAT THEY GET IN THEIR APPORTIONMENTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHEN THE BUDGET GETS APPROVED. AND JUST THIS LAST IN MAY, THEY APPROVED A CR, A CONTINUING RESOLUTION ON THE FEDERAL SIDE THAT DID AUTHORIZE THE 25 TRANSIT FUNDS. UM, BUT WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS TO THE STATE ON A COMPETITIVE BASIS. AND THERE'S ALWAYS MORE PROJECTS THAN THERE IS FUNDING. AND IN THIS CURRENT, IN THE 20, THEY'RE IN THE 25 CYCLE RIGHT NOW. UH, THEY RECEIVE 17 MILLION IN 53 11, WHICH IS RURAL TRANSIT FUNDING. UH, IT'S FORMULA BASED, AND THAT'S WHAT ARIZONA GETS. AND THEN THEY ALSO RECEIVE ABOUT 4 MILLION IN 53, 39. AND THAT IS FEDERAL, UH, BUS AND BUS FACILITIES. SO THAT CAN BE DIRECTLY APPLIED TO CAPITAL AND CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND WE ARE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW. THEY DID AUTHORIZE THOSE AND THOSE APPROPRIATIONS, AND THEY ARE RELATIVELY, THERE WERE MODEST GAINS FROM 24 AND, UH, THEY'RE NOT TO, THE TRANSIT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHICH WAS A SIX YEAR AUTHORIZATION. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE, THE SECOND TO THE LAST YEAR OF THAT. UM, THEY DIDN'T FUND IT TO THE LEVELS THAT THE BILL HAD, BUT THEY ARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE 24 LEVELS. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A CONSERVATIVE GOOD SIGN THAT THEY'RE AT LEAST PRIORITIZING THE TRANSIT FUNDS. THE 26 BUDGET THAT'S BEEN INTRODUCED BY THE PRESIDENT DOES INCLUDE TRANSIT, UH, MODEST GAINS FROM THE 25 NUMBERS, UH, BUT NOT AT THE, AT THE AUTHORIZATION LEVELS, BUT TRANSIT FORMULA IS STILL, UH, STILL HELD INTACT. SO THAT IS A POSITIVE AND OPTIMISTIC VIEW OF [01:50:01] THE FEDERAL DOLLAR STILL BEING AVAILABLE. UH, THEY DID DO A CALL, A, A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY FOR DIRECT RECIPIENTS IN 25. SO THIS WOULD BE WHERE STATES AND DIRECT RECIPIENTS CAN APPLY FOR BUS AND BUS FACILITIES. SO WE ARE SEEING A CONTINUED MOMENTUM ON INVESTMENT INTO TRANSIT, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS. SO THAT IS A GOOD INDICATOR. I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE A MAGIC BALL AND THINGS SHIFT, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND, UH, AS WE LOOK, THOSE INITIAL FUNDS THAT YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON THE FEDERAL SIDE FROM THE ADOT, UM, THOSE WERE APPLIED FOR TWO YEARS AGO BEFORE WE HAD MICRO TRANSIT STARTED. SO WE WERE PROBABLY REALLY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR ASK. UM, SO WE'LL BE MORE REALISTIC IN TERMS OF OUR MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE AND APPLY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS. I CAN'T GUARANTEE WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM, BUT, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT IN OUR NEXT NOFA FOR THE STATE, WHICH WILL BE THIS FALL. KATHY AMBER, YOU HAD SAID THAT WE ARE PRECLUDED FROM APPLYING FOR SOME FEDERAL FUNDING BASED ON OUR SIZE. YES. WHAT IS THE CUTOFF? IT IS 200,000 AS A DIRECT RECIPIENT. 200,000 WHAT METROPOLITAN'S, UH, STATISTICAL AREA, OVER 200,000 POPULATION. 200 THOU, NOT RESIDENTS. 200,000 SERVED 200,000 POPULATION. IT'S POPULATION BASED ON, ON CENSUS DATA FOR THE MSAS. ALMOST THERE. WHAT'S THE POPULATION OF THE VERDE VALLEY ? NOT 200. IT'S NOT 200,000. THAT OPENS YOU UP, UH, TO ADDITIONAL FUNDS OR AT LEAST BEING ABLE TO APPLY, UH, DIRECTLY FOR THOSE, UH, CAPITAL FUNDS AND, UH, GRANTS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO APPLY THROUGH THE STATE. THEY GET A FORMULA ALLOCATION OF THOSE FUNDS. UM, OTHER STATES HAVE APPLIED ON BEHALF OF SUBRECIPIENTS FOR THOSE CAPITAL GRANTS. AND, UH, I'M, I'M ASKING, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDING. THERE IS OTHER GRANT POOLS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. THEY'RE DOT, THERE'S THE FEDERAL LANDS ACCESS, AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT LAND, THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL ONES IN THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE ARE MONITORING. BUT ISN'T THE YELLOW ONE THE BIGGEST POT? UH, YOU KNOW, YES. THE TRANSIT FUNDING IS THE BIGGEST POT MM-HMM . FOR RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED ON THE OTHER TWO POTS OF FUNDING. UH, BUT WE ARE, TYLER, OUR GRANTS ANALYST IS MONITORING THE SITUATION. THEY HAVE NOT PUT OUT A CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR THIS, BUT WE WILL BE APPLYING, UH, ON BEHALF. AND EVEN ON THE 53 39 FUNDS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR THE STATE, FOR THE DESIGN FUNDING, WE STILL CAN REQUEST, UH, AMOUNT OF THE CAPITAL PORTION OF THE FACILITY TO THE STATE. I MEAN, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FUND A PORTION OF IT, BUT THEY'LL KNOW WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE FOR THE FUTURE. OKAY. SO, DEBORAH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I'M, I'M SORRY. YEAH, IS THERE MORE, MELISSA? OKAY. I JUST, SORRY, I'M A LITTLE SLOWER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE TODAY. CAN WE JUST GO BACK TO SLIDE 22 FOR JUST A SECOND? YEP. 22. YEP. SLIDE 22. YEP. UM, I JUST WANT US TO ASK ALSO, AS WE'RE DOING THIS, REALLY THINK HARD ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. UH, SLIDE ROCK FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SLIDE ROCK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT KIMLEY HORNS IS OVER 50% OF THE TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH UPTOWN AND CONTINUES GOING. THEY DON'T ACTUALLY STOP. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS ON ITS WAY TO SIDE ROCK. IF WE MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR SIDE ROCK AND GETTING IN AND OUT OF SIDE ROCK FOR PARKING AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, THAT MEANS WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE ABOUT PARKING IN UPTOWN. SO I, I JUST, I JUST WANT US TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHEN WE CHOOSE THESE THINGS, WHAT MIGHT BE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND THE PRESSURES WE MIGHT PUT ON OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY WHEN WE DO THIS. I, I AGREE. AND THOSE ARE, ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, REQUESTING INFORMATION AND INPUT FROM YOU ALL AND GUIDANCE ON PRIORITIZING WHAT WE SEE. SO, CAN I GO BACK TO THE FUNDING STRATEGY? ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I THINK AS WE LOOK AT FUNDING, WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SHORT TERM, LIKE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE 27 CYCLE, UH, FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR 27 AND OUR LONG TERM STRATEGY. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRESERVE FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR OPERATING AND OUR CAPITAL, PARTICULARLY FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CENTER. [01:55:01] UH, WE'LL PREPARE FOR THE FALL CALL FOR PROJECTS WITH ADOT ON THE, THEY FUND ADMINISTRATIVE OPERATING THROUGH THE 53 11 FORMULA, WHICH IS A RURAL TRANSIT FORMULA THAT, UH, THE STATE DOLS OUT THAT THEY GET ANNUALLY ON THE ALLOCATIONS. THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO THAT 17 MILLION THAT THEY CURRENTLY, UH, HAVE. UH, THAT WAS UNDER THE CR CONTINUING RESOLUTION. SO THAT FUNDING IS THERE, WE'LL BE APPLYING FOR THAT. AND THEN ALSO ON THE 53, 39, THAT IS YOUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, YOUR FACILITY NEEDS, WE'LL BE MAKING THOSE REQUESTS. WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT THE COSTS ARE TO OUR SERVICE. UH, THEY HAVE FUNDED VEHICLES FOR US FOR OUR MICRO TRANSIT. I DO NEED TO, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, OUR TRAILHEAD SERVICE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THESE FUNDS, AND IT'S ONLY OUR MICRO TRANSIT OR OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT, SUCH AS THE, THE FIXED ROUTES. SO, UM, STAFF IS ACTIVELY TRACKING OUR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING THESE GRANT CYCLES THAT WE HAVE LISTED. AND FOR LONG-TERM STRATEGY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, ARE BUILDING A MULTI-YEAR FUNDING STRATEGY. I THINK BASED ON THE PRIORITIES AFTER THIS DISCUSSION, WHEN WE REVISIT THE STIP, UH, IN, IN 27, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT LOOK AT THAT FROM A LENS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND THAT. UH, WHAT'S THAT STRATEGY? AND IT'S INCORPORATING THOSE REGIONAL PARTNERS, UH, PARTICULARLY YAVAPI, COCONINO COUNTY, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, WE COULD SEE IN SOME COST SHARING, UH, AND PLAN OUR FUTURE REVENUES, UH, LOOKING AT THINGS AS WE LOOK AT THE BUSINESS ANALYSIS WITH OUR, OUR TRANSIT OPERATIONS CENTER, UH, WITH THAT BUSINESS PLAN. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE SEEING KIND OF WHERE OUR OPPORTUNITIES ARE IN THE SHORT TERM AND THE LONG TERM WITH HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND SERVICES OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, PARTICULARLY IN THE LENS OF REQUESTING FEDERAL DOLLARS, ESPECIALLY AS WE LOOK AT A GRANT FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER. SO, NATURALLY WE'VE DISCUSSED, UH, AND YOU'VE ALL BROUGHT THESE POINTS UP, THERE ARE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE TO OVERCOME. UH, WE HAVE CON WE HAVE FUNDING CONSTRAINTS, UH, DESPITE OUR DEDICATED LOCAL HALF-CENT TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX. UM, WE ARE INELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF OUR FEDERAL TRANSIT FUNDS, BUT WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR OTHER FEDERAL POTS OF MONEY. UH, THERE'S RISING COSTS, UH, THAT WE'VE SEEN ANNUALLY IN TERMS OF JUST DELIVERING OUR SERVICE. AND THERE ARE STILL, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL WHEN WE'RE PLANNING FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND EVEN AS WE REPLACE AN AGING FLEET, THAT THERE ARE PROCUREMENT DELAYS. AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL IN OUR PLANNING THAT AS WE, AND PARTICULARLY AS WE LOOK AT OUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE, WHERE ALL THOSE VEHICLES ARE PURCHASED AT ONCE, THAT WE HAVE A GREAT STRAT A GOOD STRATEGY, SOLID STRATEGY THAT WE'RE REPLACING OUR VEHICLES AND NOT STUCK WITH AN AGING FLEET, WHICH THE PRICES PRICE PER MILE FOR MILEAGE AND MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. AND ALSO IN TERMS OF PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW WITHIN OUR REGION, THE DAYS OUTTA SERVICE TO MEET SOME OF THESE MAINTENANCE CHALLENGES, UH, OUR VEHICLES ARE GONNA BE OUTTA SERVICE WAY LONGER THAN THEY WERE IF WE HAD A FACILITY. AND THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE KIND OF, WE, OUR FLEET ISN'T OLD RIGHT NOW, OR IT'S RELATIVELY BRIGHT AND SHINY, BUT AS IT AGES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE ISSUES WITH POSSIBLE SERVICE NOT BEING AS RELIABLE. SO WE HAVE TO REALLY BALANCE THOSE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT NEEDS, HOW WE'RE DOING THAT. SO, AND THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, OUR, OUR FACILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEPENDENCIES. UH, WE, WE, WE LACK A CURRENT FACILITY. SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS, IF WE WANNA ADD A CIRCULATOR, OUR CURRENT TEMPORARY LOT IS AT CAPACITY. SO IT DOES, IT IS A CHALLENGE TO TRY TO MEET SOME OF THE SERVICE DEMANDS IF WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED PERMANENT FACILITY TO DO THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF THE SERVICE. SO AS I'M WRAPPING THIS UP AND IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO WRAPPING UP . SO I THINK ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT THINGS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE INGREDIENTS TO OUR SUCCESS AND OUR CURRENT PROGRESS, HAS BEEN WORKING IN COLLABORATION, BUILDING, AND MAINTAINING PARTNERSHIPS, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE FOREST SERVICE, WITH OUR TRAILHEAD ACCESS, OUR TRANSIT PROVIDERS SUCH AS CAT VALLEY VERDE, VERDE VALLEY, VERDE VALLEY, , CAN YOU JUST SEND ME HOME? OKAY. UH, AND ALSO, [02:00:01] UH, A KEY COMMITTEE THAT WE WORK WITH AND PROVIDE US GUIDANCE IS THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, THAT HELPS US, UH, THIS WORK IS NOT DONE IN ISOLATION. I THINK SOME OF OUR UPCOMING PARTNERSHIPS IS TO CONTINUE THOSE ONGOING DIALOGUES AND DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, THE COUNTIES, UH, YAVAPAI AND COCONINO. OKAY. THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE. AND I, UH, REALLY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. THERE IS A LOT HERE, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED. UM, I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'VE ALL COME A LONG WAYS. YOU JUST IMPLEMENTED YOUR SERVICE IN 22, AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING. AND THANKS TO THE LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE OF YOU ALL, AND OF OUR PARTNERS AND OF CITY STAFF AND OUR PARTNERS, AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE MEETING THE CHALLENGES AND EVEN OUR OPERATORS, OUR, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH MV, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. WE'VE HAD OVER A MILLION BOARDINGS. UH, WE'VE PROVIDED 13,000 RIDES SINCE THE START OF CONNECT. UH, THAT CAN ONLY GET BETTER. AND WE'VE KICKED OFF THE DESIGN PORTION. UH, ALL OF THEM REFLECT PROGRESS AND IN THE INVESTMENT OF OUR TRANSIT, BUT IT ALSO TIES INTO THOSE PLANS AND TO OUR LARGER VISION LAID OUT IN THOSE PLANS, UH, A MORE CONNECTED, ACCESSIBLE, SUSTAINABLE, SEDONA. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED KIND OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES MOVING AHEAD. UM, BUT I REALLY FEEL THAT THE CONTINUED LOCAL SUPPORT, UH, THROUGH FUNDING POLICY ALIGNMENT, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR POLICY, UH, AND GUIDANCE, UH, IS GONNA BE ESSENTIAL, IS PARTICULARLY WITH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE AND OUR COUNTIES, LOCAL BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THIS IS A CONTINUED MOVEMENT FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE AND IMPROVE THE SERVICES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I REALLY THANK YOU ALL, I APPRECIATE IT. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING NEXT. YOU WANNA STOP, ALYSSA? I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF WORK AND WE CAN BE A TOUGH CROWD , SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR WHAT IS YOUR THIRD PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF US AND, UM, YOU'RE NOT UNDERNEATH THE DESK, SO, AND I'VE ONLY BEEN BEEN HERE LESS THAN FOUR MONTHS, SO THERE YOU GO. I, I THANK YOU ALL. WELL DONE. ALL THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE AND, AND WORK TOWARDS KIND OF THOSE FUTURE PLANS. VICE MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I WANNA THANK YOU THOUGH. YOU GIVEN AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, ERIC. UM, THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, I ASKED ABOUT DEFIBRILLATORS, , DID YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT 'EM? UM, THEY ARE NOT USUALLY INCLUDED ON VEHICLES. OKAY. UH, SOME ARE AT LOCAL TRANSIT CENTERS OR COMMUNITY CENTERS. UH, CLEARLY A LOT OF, LIKE, THEY'RE, THE DRIVERS KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT, SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT'S USUALLY NOT A STANDARD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON A VEHICLE. OKAY. I MEAN, SARCASM ASIDE, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY BE WORTH LOOKING INTO. UH, LEGAL WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO WEIGH IN AND TELL US WHETHER IT'S A BAD IDEA TO PUT THESE THINGS ON VEHICLES. BUT PARTICULARLY WE'VE GOTTEN SOME LETTERS RECENTLY FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO WERE OTHERWISE SHUT IN, WHO ARE USING THESE SHUTTLES FOR MEDICAL CHECK, MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND ALL THAT. AND I, I JUST FOR THE COST AND I THINK WE GET A GOOD RETURN IF WE SAVE ONE PERSON. OH, YEAH. UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT, FIVE AEDS? SO I DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE IT ON THE FLY RESPONSE. NO, NO. I THINK IT WOULD, UH, JUST BE A MATTER OF THE LEVEL OF TRAINING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, AMBER, ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW MUCH TRAINING WOULD BE REQUIRED? I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. WE GOTTA TALK TO OUR PROVIDER BECAUSE I THINK OUR, OUR CONNECT IS IN A, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UH, POSITION THAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OTHER, UH, CITIES IN THE, THE STATE YEAH. BASED ON HOW IT'S BEING USED. SO WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST, I WANNA GO BEYOND WHAT'S INDUSTRY STANDARD. I THINK OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE BETTER. SO TO TAG ONTO THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, DEREK. NO. AMBER ARE, FOR OUR DRIVERS TO BE DRIVING THESE VEHICLES, THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, FEDERAL, ADOT, FEDERAL DOT TRAINED. THEY GO THROUGH A DOT PHYSICAL IF THEY HAVE A CDL, RIGHT? SO, YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . ARE THEY, DOES THAT REQUIRE 'EM TO HAVE ANY KIND OF FIRST AID EMERGENCY TRAINING? YES. WE, WE REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAINING IN ONBOARDING TO OPERATE THESE VEHICLES. AND AS WE RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING, [02:05:01] UH, THEY HAVE TO BE DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTED. THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED AND PROVIDED, UH, UP, UP UPDATES ON THAT TRAINING ANNUALLY. AND, UH, THERE IS EVERYTHING FROM DEESCALATION TRAINING TO PROPER, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL AS JUST GENERAL SAFETY, HOW TO PROPERLY OPERATE LIFTS, UH, AND, AND DEAL WITH, UH, A DA, UH, ALL, ALL THAT IS ENTAILED. I CAN PROVIDE, I DON'T HAVE A LIST, BUT THERE'S USUALLY AN EXTENSIVE LIST. UH, IN MOST SYSTEMS THERE IS AN ONBOARDING PROCESS. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO TRAIN, UH, OPERATORS. USUALLY IT'S AN EIGHT WEEK, UH, ONBOARDING IN SOME SYSTEMS, SOMETIMES IT'S EVEN LONGER. OH. JUST GOING FOR THE FIRST EIGHT PORTION OF THAT. MM-HMM . SO IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO GO TO AN A ED, WHICH IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO USE, UH, I'VE USED THEM MYSELF, IT WOULDN'T BE A FAST REACH FOR OUR DRIVERS TO USE IT. NO. THEY DO HAVE FIRST AID TRAINING AND BLOODBORNE PATHOGEN TRAINING. THEY'RE, IT'S ALL, UH, REQUIRED WITHIN THEIR, THEIR, BUT HAVING AN A ED WOULD BE A FAR REACH FOR THEM OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY DO FOR FIRST AID. IT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP THEM. WE'D HAVE TO TAKE, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. UH, BUT WE'D WORK WITH, UH, MV ON, ON WHAT ELSE WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THAT TRAINING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU PETE. MAYOR, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT I'VE GOT A CHECK NEXT TO EVERY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. HOLY COW. THANK YOU, . SO GOING BACK TO SLIDE ONE, , AFTER FIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, AMBER. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TRANSITIONED FROM ONE LEADERSHIP PERSON TO ANOTHER, SOMETIMES WE SEE A DROP IN KNOWLEDGE. YOU'VE, IN MY OPINION, YOU'VE TAKEN US RIGHT. A CONTINUATION FROM WHERE ROBERT WAS WITH THAT. I, I BELIEVE ANY DROP IN KNOWLEDGE AT ALL. I'M SO IMPRESSED BY YOUR, UH, AGAIN, YOUR THIRD PRESENTATION. I FEEL SO CONFIDENT THAT YOU HAVE THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART AND YOU'RE REALLY MOVING US FORWARD. AND IT'S A GREAT, I MEAN, ROBERT TOOK US AN AMAZING, UH, PACE IN JUST A FEW YEARS. HE WAS WITH US. AND I FEEL YOU HAVEN'T DROPPED THE BALL AT ALL. YOU'VE REALLY MOVED FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THOSE, THOSE WORDS. AND I HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL, SO I, I STILL FEEL LIKE YOU DO, UH, STILL BEATING THE CHALLENGES, BUT I DO APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL TEAM HERE. ANDY AND ANNETTE HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC. OF COURSE. UH, IT'S, IT'S A TEAM APPROACH. EVERYBODY'S HELPED ME OUT, SO THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE ITEM B, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING, UH, IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE. EXCUSE ME. HEARING NONE. [5. ADJOURNMENT] THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.