Jul 08, 2025 City Council

MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR JALO.

THANK YOU,

[2. ROLL CALL/MOMENT OF ART]

PRESENT VICE MAYOR PLU.

COUNCILLOR FAF? HERE.

CAN YOU PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES COUNCIL TOO? ALRIGHT, UH, NANCY LITANY.

WE HAVE A MOMENT OF ART.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONCE A MONTH TO WE THAT WE COULD SHOWCASE SOME, UH, WONDERFUL ART OF MULTIPLE TYPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO, NANCY, IT'S ALL YOURS.

APPROACHES ARE JURIED INTO SHOWS WHICH ATTRACT RESIDENTS AND TOURISTS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNSELORS.

UM, TODAY'S MOMENT OF ART FOR JULY, HAPPY JULY IS, UM, CELEBRATING NAS, THE CURRENT EXHIBIT IN THIS ROOM.

IT'S THEIR 30TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW.

SO FOR 30 YEARS, NORTHERN ARIZONA WATERCOLOR SOCIETY HAS CREATED A WARM AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH MEMBERS CAN BOTH LEARN THEIR CRAFT AND CREATE LONG-TERM FRIENDSHIPS.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I'VE TAKEN THESE WORKSHOPS OVER THE YEARS, LAST 15 YEARS OFF AND ON, AND MY FIRST INSTINCT BESIDES THEY'RE WONDERFUL AND THEY HAVE GREAT SPEAKERS AND, AND TEACHERS IS, UM, IT'S LIKE A FAMILY.

THEY'RE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN COMING BACK FOR 30 YEARS NOW.

SO IT'S A GREAT GROUP.

UM, AND SO, UM, THIS IS BECAUSE NAS PROMOTES LONG-TERM LOYALTY, WHICH CAN BE SEEN FROM THE WORK IN THE ULTI ROOM BY THE FIVE FOUNDING MEMBERS AS WELL AS IN THIS ROOM.

I JUST WANNA MENTION ALSO FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T HERE, THE ARTIST RECEPTION FOR NAS WAS THE LARGEST.

IN MY 12 YEARS HERE, THERE WAS OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.

IT WAS VERY WIDELY ATTENDED.

AND, UM, THERE WERE SPEAKERS BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE JURIED WINNERS.

UM, AND BEAUTIFUL BACKGROUND MUSIC WAS PROVIDED BY SOLOMON MORRIS.

UM, FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED, THESE BROCHURES ARE OUT ON THE TABLE OVER THERE.

FEEL FREE TO BROWSE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO SEE WHO THE WINNERS ARE.

EVERYTHING'S MARKED IN HERE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK NITA MARETTE AND KATHY SCHNEIDER FOR THEIR WONDERFUL PAINTING DEMONSTRATION AT THE END OF MAY.

THAT WAS THE FIRST SLIDE, WHICH DISAPPEARED.

BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THERE WAS A NICE TURNOUT FOR THE EVENT.

AND, UM, ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO CAST THEIR VOTE FOR THE MEMBER AND PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARDS.

I'D LIKE TO THANK EXHIBIT CHAIR PAT SCOTT, PLEASE STAND UP AND, UM, CO.

AND PLEASE STAND UP.

MARYANNE UNDR, CO-PRESIDENT FOR NAS.

I'VE WORKED WITH MARYANNE SINCE I STARTED HERE.

SHE'S WONDERFUL.

SHE WAS PREVIOUSLY DOING WHAT PAT WAS DOING, AND SHE'S STILL HERE, UH, GOING STRONG.

AND, UM, SO TO SHARE MORE ABOUT NORTHERN ARIZONA WATERCOLOR SOCIETY, PLEASE WELCOME PAULA HOLCOMB.

THIS WAS THE FIRST SLIDE.

SO THIS WAS, UM, FROM THE PAINTING DEMO.

AND ON THE LEFT IS KATHY SCHNEIDER PAINTING A PEACOCK IN PROGRESS AND ON THE RIGHT NITA MARETTE.

AND SHE GAVE US ALL LITTLE SAMPLES OF HER WATERCOLORS TO TAKE.

SO THIS IS PAULA FOUND FOUNDED 30 YEARS AGO.

TODAY WE CELEBRATE THE ORIGIN AND HISTORY OF ONE OF SEDONAS EARLY ARTISTIC GROUPS.

WATERCOLOR ARTISTS ARE EXPLORERS, CREATING AN IMAGE AND A NARRATIVE WITH LIGHT AND SHADOWS, COLOR AND COMPOSITION.

BETTY CARR FOUNDING MEMBER, MENTOR AND FRIEND TEACHES AND ENCOURAGES NAS MEMBERS AND GUESTS TO GAIN SKILLS AND DISCOVER THE JOYS OF PAINTING IN WATERCOLOR.

I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE FOUNDER'S MEMBERS ART IN YOUR VAULTY ROOM.

NAS PRESENTED ITS PREMIER EXHIBITION AT THE SEDONA ART CENTER IN THE FALL OF 1995.

PAINTERS WITH MANY AND VARIED VISUAL

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ARTISTS FIND KINDRED SOULS AT MONTHLY MEETINGS, WHICH PRESENT PROGRAMS AND DEMOS ABOUT MAKING GOOD ART EVEN BETTER IN A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

MEMBERS AND GUESTS ATTEND THREE TO FOUR DAY WORKSHOPS TO LEARN FROM NOTED ARTISTS WHO ARE MORE THAN EAGER TO VISIT SEDONA.

OF COURSE, PAINTING IN OUR BEAUTIFUL SURROUNDINGS IS AS EXHILARATING AS IT IS CHALLENGING.

WE KNOW WE ARE THE LUCKIEST ARTISTS IN THE COUNTRY.

OUR BEGINNING WATER MEDIA CLASSES HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED BY MANY IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WERE FINALLY GETTING AFTER AN ART PURSUIT.

THEY ALWAYS WANTED TO TRY.

THE WARM FRIENDSHIP AND ENCOURAGEMENT OF PEERS HELPS BUILD CONFIDENCE IN CRITIQUE GROUPS THAT MEET MONTHLY.

FOR MANY YEARS, NAS HAS REACHED OUT TO LOCAL SCHOOLS AND HOSTED STUDENT EXHIBITS, WHICH HIGHLIGHT EMERGING TALENT AND OUR ART MATERIALS.

AND GARAGE SALES ARE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS TO BUY, SELL, OR TRADE SUPPLIES.

AN EXTENSIVE DVD LENDING LIBRARY IS A RICH RESOURCE FOR MEMBERS.

IT TAKES A VILLAGE AND NAS PROVIDES JUST THAT MANY DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS OVER THE YEARS HAVE OFFERED LEADERSHIP NEW IDEAS AND OUTREACH.

NORTHERN ARIZONA WATERCOLOR SOCIETY OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW, TO LEARN AND ENJOY LONG-TERM FRIENDSHIPS.

THANK YOU FOR ENJOYING A MOMENT OF ART WITH NAS.

[3. CONSENT ITEMS - APPROVE]

ITEM THREE, CONSENT ITEMS. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC, THE COUNCIL OR STAFF TO PULL AN ITEM.

WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC TO PULL ITEM G.

SO, CAN I HAVE A MOTION? UNLESS THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS? A MOTION TO, UH, PULL, UH, ITEMS, UH, A TO I MINUS GI MOVE, UH, APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS THREE A THROUGH I, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF G OR THREE A TO F AND H AND I.

OKAY, I HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE UNANIMOUS.

[3.g. AB 3235 Approval of the Renewal of the Existing Undercover License Plates for Undercover Vehicles.]

GOOD EVENING, COUNSELORS.

MR. PERRY, UH, YOU'VE REQUESTED TO SPEAK ON, UH, ITEM 3G.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

BEFORE YOU DO SPEAK, WE SET THE CLOCK BECAUSE THE CITY CLERK HAS TO DO THAT.

UH, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO PLEASE, UH, REFRAIN FROM FOUL LANGUAGE.

IT'S YOUR CHOICE, UH, BUT OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO DO WHAT YOU WISH.

BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO REFRAIN FROM FOUL LANGUAGE OF WHICH YOU DEMONSTRATED TWO WEEKS AGO.

UH, MY NAME IS TIM PERRY AND I LIVE IN SEDONA.

WELL, APART FROM, UH, THE INTERESTING REFLECTIONS CONTAINED IN THE MAYOR'S OPENING REMARKS, WHAT I'M REALLY HERE TO, UH, DISCUSS WITH THIS ITEM IS AS IT'S LISTED ON THE AGENDA, THE RENEWAL OF THE LICENSE PLATES FOR THE CITY'S UNDERCOVER COP CARS, WHICH IS, OF COURSE A RENEWAL OF THE CARS THEMSELVES.

AND IT REALLY IS FASCINATING HERE TO WONDER ABOUT THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A, A SHAMEFULLY COWARDLY ACTION, EVEN BY THE STANDARDS OF THOSE WHO EMBRACE VIOLENCE.

DID YOU GUYS NOT GET THE SCRIPT OR SOMETHING HIDING AND SNEAKING AROUND IN DISGUISE IS WHAT THE BAD GUYS DO, NOT THE GOOD GUYS.

AND HOW BRAVE, HOW NOBLE IT IS FOR YOU TO SEND OUT.

UH, THE CITY'S HIRED GUNS TO HIDE IN THE BUSHES.

THIS IS EXACTLY THE LAND-BASED EQUIVALENT OF WHAT WAS ALWAYS CONSIDERED THE ULTIMATE CRIME AMONG SAILORS FLY SAILING UNDER FALSE COLORS.

IF YOU STARTED FIRING AT SOMEONE WHILE YOU WERE FLYING SOMEONE ELSE'S COLORS, YOU JUST COMMITTED THE ULTIMATE ACT OF SHAMEFUL COWARDICE.

IT ALSO REMINDS US WHY DONKEY HTE CONDEMNED THE INTRODUCTION OF FIREARMS BECAUSE THEY GAVE ANY COWARD HIDING BEHIND A ROCK, AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE MOST COURAGEOUS WARRIOR IN THE WORLD.

BUT

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WE CAN SETTLE THE, UH, ETHICAL CONCERNS EVEN WITHIN THE PRO VIOLENCE CONTEXT ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT, BECAUSE I'M SURE THE COUNCIL WOULD COME BACK WITH, WELL, IT'S NECESSARY.

IT'S NECESSARY TO PROTECT YOU FROM YOUR, UH, IRRESPONSIBLE SELVES.

RESORTING TO THE, UH, SENATOR MCCARTHY UTILITARIAN LANGUAGE.

LET'S TOSS THAT.

LIE RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW RIGHT NOW.

COPS DO NOT PREVENT VIOLENCE.

COPS ARE THE CAUSE OF VIOLENCE NATIONWIDE.

YOU ARE 32 TIMES, NOT PERCENT TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED BY A COP THAN YOU ARE BY ANYONE ELSE.

AND YOU ARE SIX TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED BY A COP THAN BY A CONVICTED FELON.

LOCALLY, WE KNOW, BASED ON THE FISCAL YEAR 23 FIGURES, THAT 89% OF ALL DOCUMENTED VIOLENCE IN SEDONA IS COMMITTED BY THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I REMEMBER STANDING IN THIS VERY ROOM, LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND HEARING SHANNON BOONE TELL US, OH, WELL, THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER FROM PEOPLE BANGING ON THEIR WINDOWS.

AND THEN I ASKED HER, SHANNON, THESE PEOPLE BANGING ON THE WINDOWS, IS THAT THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT? AND SHE SAID, AH-HUH.

AND SLIPPED AWAY AS FAST AS SHE COULD TO AVOID ADMITTING IT ANY FARTHER.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE.

THESE UNDERCOVER CARS ARE REQUIRED TO RESOLVE.

THIS IS PLAIN COWARDICE.

IT IS PLAIN TYRANNY, AND IT IS YET ANOTHER ACT OF CITY VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PUBLIC.

OKAY, THANK YOU MR. PERRY.

UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ITEM GI MOVE TO ACCEPT, UH, CONSENT ITEM 3G.

SECOND BY COUNCIL COUNCILOR DUNN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? NONE.

[4. APPOINTMENTS]

APPOINTMENTS.

WE HAVE, UH, APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

EFFECTIVE JULY 14TH, 2025.

KATHY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE.

UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF LOUIS LEVIN AND MICHAEL GAMAR AS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR THE SEDONA MUNICIPAL COURT TO SERVE ON AN ON-CALL BASIS FOR A TWO YEAR TERM AT THE RATE OF $65 PER HOUR.

SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE.

SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MYSELF, THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL OR THE CITY MANAGER, OR ON YOUR COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

[5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER & COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS]

ANYTHING? NOTHING ON MY LEFT.

UH, DEREK, LEMME MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THE RIGHT, THE EMAIL IN FRONT OF ME HERE.

UM, SO I LEARNED RECENTLY THAT THE ARTIST KITCHEN SHOP AT TILAK NORTH WAS RECENTLY HONORED BY THE INTERNATIONAL HOUSEWARES ASSOCIATION WITH THEIR GLOBAL INNOVATION AWARD.

UH, IT WAS AN AWARD, UH, BASED ON OVERALL MISSION STATEMENT, VISION AND STRATEGY, STORE DESIGN AND LAYOUT, VISUAL MERCHANDISING, DISPLAYS AND WINDOW DISPLAYS, MARKETING, ADVERTISING AND PROMOTIONS, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND STAFF TRAINING, UH, AND INNOVATION.

SO, UH, THE SHOP WON FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

UM, AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE KATHY LADDER.

KATHY LOUDERBACK, UH, WHO ALSO OWNS THE BOW WOW.

BOUTIQUE ACROSS THE WAY.

SO, UH, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE CLOSE TOGETHER, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO IN THERE AND TAKE A LOOK.

SO MANY OF YOU HERE KNOW, UH, I RECENTLY HAD A TRIP TO CANMORE, ALBERTA, CANADA FOR THE SISTER CITIES ORGANIZATION.

AND I MUST TELL YOU, IT WAS AN AMAZING TRIP AND I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE ANY OF THE COUNCIL OF THE PUBLIC TO TAKE A TRIP TO CANMORE.

UH, IT WAS TOTALLY BREATHTAKING AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO GO BACK AND I WAS A LITTLE RESISTANT OF GOING BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY, BUT I WOULD GO BACK IN A HEARTBEAT.

IT WAS FANTASTIC.

SO, SOME PEOPLE ASK ME, WELL, WHY WE HAVE CANMORE AS OUR SISTER CITY, AND WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES AND WONDERFUL AMENITIES IN COMMON, SUCH AS, UH, ON THE DOWNSIDE THEY HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP THEM IN SHORT-TERM RENTAL ZONES, UH, AND THEN, UH, RESTRICT THEM FROM OTHER ZONES.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF TOURIST ISSUES.

UH, AND THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, LACK OF WORKFORCE, HOUSING ISSUES.

ON THE PLUS SIDE, THEY HAVE VIEWS UNLIKE, NOT UNLIKE SEDONA, BUT MORE BREATHTAKING.

'CAUSE THEIR MOUNTAINS ARE WAY TALLER AND THEY HAVE WHITE CAP, WHITE CAPS ALL AROUND THE CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE TOUGH, BUT WHILE YOU GUYS

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HERE WERE AT 105, THEY WERE 20 DEGREES COOLER.

SO IT WAS QUITE NICE.

UH, WE WERE TREATED LIKE ROYALTY.

WE REALLY ENJOYED, UH, THE TRIP.

ONE THING THAT WAS REALLY, AND I TOOK NOTE IN, THEY HAVE, UH, WALKABLE CITIES, WALKABLE COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE BECAUSE THEY HAD, UH, THEY BUILT, UH, A COMMUNITY, A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY, BUT ONE THAT WE WERE RIGHT NEAR WHERE THEY TOOK A TRAILER PARK AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WIPED OUT THE TRAILER PARK AND BUILT MULTI-USE HOUSING WITH, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND RENTALS AND APARTMENTS ON THE SECOND.

AND THEY HAVE THREE STORY, UM, HOUSING AND BUILDINGS.

SO, UH, BUT IT WAS WONDERFUL WHERE WE WALKED UP AND DOWN THE COMMUNITY AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS ALONG THE WAY, AND PEOPLE WERE HAVING FUN ALONG THE SIDEWALK.

IT WAS ALL OUTDOOR SEATING AND PEOPLE WERE ENJOYING THEMSELVES AND PEOPLE WERE GATHERING.

AND YES, THERE WERE SOME TOURISTS THERE, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF LOCALS THERE.

SO THERE WAS A LOT TO BE HAD.

I DON'T WANNA GO ON TO IT MORE THAN WHAT THE TIME WILL ALLOW, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GO TO KENMORE CANADA TO DO SO.

SO, THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT.

KURT, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED AT THE DIRECTION GIVEN IN, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON TWO, UH, LEGAL MATTERS, UH, UH, SABRINA BARON VERSUS THE CITY OF SEDONA, AND THE GREGORY'S, UH, VERSUS THE CITY OF SEDONA.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO, UH, PUBLIC FORUM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

[6. PUBLIC FORUM]

WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM, UH, PORTION OF THE MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, MR. PERRY COME BACK UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REFRAIN FROM ANY, UH, BAD LANGUAGE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE USED TWO WEEKS AGO.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSELORS.

MY NAME IS TIM PERRY, AND I LIVE IN SEDONA IN TONIGHT'S INSTALLMENT OF TALKING ABOUT THE SYSTEMATIC LIES THAT ARE TOLD BY THE CITY OF SEDONA.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MISLEADING SIGNAGE, AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH THAT GREAT BIG ELECTRONIC LIGHTUP SIGN THAT YOU'LL SEE AS YOU DRIVE DOWN AS OUR 1 79 TODAY.

IT'S NOT LIT UP.

SOMETIMES IT IS.

AND WHEN IT IS LIT UP, IT TELLS THE PUBLIC THE TRAILHEAD IS CLOSED.

ACTUALLY, NO, THAT'S A FLAT OUT LIE.

CATHEDRAL ROCK TRAIL HEAD IS NOT CLOSED.

THE FOREST SERVICE HAS NOT CLOSED IT BACK.

BEYOND ROAD AS COUNCIL AND STAFF DISCUSSED A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO IN THIS VERY ROOM IS A PUBLIC THOROUGHFARE.

THE CITY CANNOT CLOSE IT.

AND IF ANYONE ACTUALLY WANTS TO GO DOWN AT THE CITY'S TRAFFIC AIDS HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY.

AND IF THEY CAN FIND PARKING AT THE VERY MUCH OPEN TRAILHEAD, THEY CAN PARK THERE.

THE CITY TELLS A LIE IN THIS SIGN BECAUSE IT'S TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO USE THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.

AND WELL, IF IT CAN'T SHOW THAT THE NUMBERS OF USAGE ON THE TRANSIT SYSTEM ARE INCREASING, THEN ONE DAY IT MIGHT BECOME POLITICALLY IN EXPEDIENT TO KEEP IT RUNNING, WHICH MEANS THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO LAY OFF STAFF AND THEY'D GET A FEW WHINY COMPLAINTS FROM THE PEOPLE THEY REALLY DON'T LIKE HEARING FROM, WHICH IS REALLY WHY THE WHOLE SHUTTLE SYSTEM WAS SET UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND LET'S ALSO TAKE A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THAT FASCINATING SIGN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLOCK OF POCKET CROSSWALK, A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT SAYS, NO PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, ASIDE FROM LOOKING COMPLETELY LUDICROUS TO ANYONE WHO CAN SEE THERE IS A CROSSING THERE.

THE SIMPLE FACT IS THE CITY HAS NOT CLOSED THAT CROSSING AND CANNOT CLOSE THAT CROSSING WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM ADOT.

NEITHER ADOT NOR THE CITY CAN CLARIFY THAT ANY SUCH PERMISSION HAS BEEN GIVEN.

SO THE CROSSWALK IS LEGALLY STILL OPEN, EVEN IF THE CITY CHOOSES TO GATE OFF THE CROSSWALK AND PLACE A DECEPTIVE SIGN IN FRONT OF IT, ANYONE UNDER A RS TITLE 28 STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO WALK ACROSS THAT CROSSWALK, HOP THE FENCE, AND STILL KEEP CROSSING THE STREET.

BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE PEDESTRIANS WITHIN CROSSWALKS.

AND EVEN IF THE CITY DOES SECURE A PERMANENT CLOSURE OF THE CROSSWALK, IT WILL STILL BE PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR ANYONE TO SIMPLY WALK ACROSS SR 7 1 79, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT INTERFERING WITH TRAFFIC.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WEIRD SITUATIONS WHERE THE CITY IS GOING TO UNNECESSARY LENGTHS AND SPENDING A LOT OF PUBLIC MONEY SIMPLY TO PUSH A PERSONAL AGENDA FOR A VERY FEW PEOPLE IN TOWN.

AND ON THIS COUNCIL,

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IT'S ANOTHER INSTANCE OF, WELL, SOME ANIMALS ARE JUST MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS, I GUESS.

TIM PERRY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY SHANE QUALS.

DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY? YES, IT'S OKAY.

START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.

UH, SHANE.

THREE MINUTES.

I LIVE AT, UH, FIVE 20 SKYLINE DRIVE.

UH, THE REASON I HANDED THE LETTER EARLIER TODAY, UM, CONCERNING, WELL, LEMME START THAT.

I LIVED HERE IN THE SEVENTIES, IN THE BACK OF BEYOND CIRCLE, UH, WHEN THAT'S ALL THERE WAS AT BAKU BEYOND CIRCLE, THE, THE, UH, BAKU BEYOND RANCH WAS NOT THERE.

THAT WAS A NATIONAL FORCE.

AT ONE TIME.

I WENT TO THE BREWER ROSE SCHOOL, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE.

MY FAVORITE TEACHER WAS, UM, MR. KLEIN, IF SOME OF YOU GUYS REMEMBER HIM AT ALL.

UH, MY FIRST HOUSE WAS IN CASA ENTA, AND THEN I MOVED TO WOODLAND DRIVE, AND NOW I'M AT SKYLINE DRIVE.

ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, UM, WE WERE CONTACTED THROUGH A LETTER STATING THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT THE SECURITY CAMERAS UP ON SKYLINE DRIVE.

AND, UM, VERY NICE PERSON.

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK AT THE TIME, BUT CORRESPONDENT BACK AND FORTH AND NEIGHBORHOODS KIND OF THE, THE NEIGHBORS DID NOT WANT THIS, UH, CAMERA TO BE INSTALLED ON SKYLIGHT DRAWING TOWARDS THE TOP RIGHT BELOW MY HOUSE ON SAYING THEY HAD AN EASEMENT ON MY PROPERTY.

UM, WE WROTE LETTERS AND, AND, AND, UM, AND THAT WAS APPEAL.

THEY, THEY, IT, IT WENT AWAY.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON THESE CAMERAS.

AND WHEN I CALLED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LOCATE THEM, UM, I'M NOT GETTING A RESPONSE.

THEY'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS CAMERA BEING THERE.

UH, THERE IS, UH, PUBLIC WATER TOWER AT THE TOP OF, UH, TIPPY TOP LANE.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE CAMERA THERE.

UH, I'M DEFINITELY, UM, NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

UM, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE DRIVING BY.

THIS CAMERA'S GONNA BE ON MY PROPERTY THAT'S GONNA MONITOR ME AND MY, UH, FRIENDS OR WHOEVER COMES OVER.

AND SAME WITH THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE WAS ABOUT 20 OF US THAT WROTE LETTERS FIVE YEARS AGO ABOUT THIS.

SO I'M JUST ASKING IF WE CAN FIND OUT WHERE THESE CAMERAS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INSTALLED AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO ASK AND BE LOCATED AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU AT THIS POINT.

THIS IS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO EMAIL ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND ASK QUESTIONS, THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

THEY MIGHT EVEN MEET WITH YOU IF, IF YEAH, I LEFT A LETTER, UM, ADDRESSED TO YOU, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JESSICA WILLIAMSON IS NEXT.

JESSICA, I THINK YOU KNOW THE HOW TO, UH, TO DO IT.

I'M JESSICA WILLIAMSON.

I LIVE IN SEDONA.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPING THE CULTURE PARK PROPERTY, UM, AS IT'S PROPOSED IN THE INITIAL CONCEPT.

UM, WHICH IS HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING IN CONJUNCTION WITH OPEN SPACE, CULTURAL FAC, FACILITIES AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK TO THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS BECAUSE IN THE PLAN IT TALKS ABOUT A MAXIMUM.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GONNA BE A MAXIMUM OR NOT.

MY SENSE IS IT'S NOT GONNA BE A MAXIMUM, BUT THAT NUMBER IS BEING USED BY OPPONENTS TO SCARE PEOPLE, UM, ABOUT THE PROJECT.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE POINT TO DISCUSS THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THE SITE WAS PURCHASED BY THE CITY TO ENSURE IT'S DEVELOPED IN A MANNER THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE NEED FOR CREATING VARIETY OF HOUSING TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS.

AND IT FOLLOWS THE COMMUNITY FOCUS AREA, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMMUNITY AMENITIES, OPEN SPACE WORKFORCE, AND MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE ON THIS SITE.

WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO ANYBODY BUT THE RICH.

THIS SITE WAS ACQUIRED AS A WAY, ONE WAY TO PARTLY ADDRESS THAT DEFICIT.

THE SUGGESTION THAT ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD BE OUT AT THE DELLS, IN ADDITION TO HAVING SOME KIND OF SOCIAL CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT IT IGNORES THE VERY REAL ISSUES INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING THAT SITE.

THE LANDS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR SPRAYING WASTEWATER, AFFLUENT ALTERNATE METHODS OF DISPOSING OF THAT AFFLUENT ARE EXTENSIVE, WILL TAKE A LOT OF TIME, AND ARE VERY EXPENSIVE CLAIMS THAT THE DELLS CAN BE DEVELOPED QUICKLY, ARE DISINGENUOUS AT VERY BEST.

THE WESTERN GATEWAY OFFERS US A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE DESPERATELY NEEDING HOUSING AND REALLY IMPORTANT AMEN AMENITIES FOR OUR

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COMMUNITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

IT'S AN INCREDIBLE, UM, OPPORTUNITY.

UH, LET'S DO IT.

THANK YOU, UH, JESSICA.

JEFF BROWN WILL BE ALL LAST PERSON TO SPEAK AND, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC FORUM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO, UH, FILL OUT A CARD.

OTHERWISE, JEFF WILL BE ALL LAST.

CAREFUL.

JEFF.

SO WE HAVE REGULAR BUSINESS ITEM, A AB UH, 32 0 7 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE SMALL GRANT REVIEW COMMITTEE, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 SMALL GRANTS PROGRAM, AND A, UH, AMOUNT OF $350,000.

HI MAYOR AND COUNSELORS.

I'M HERE WITH MY HUSBAND.

WE'RE A PART-TIME RESIDENCE.

HAVE, START WITH YOUR NAME AND CITY OF OH, JEFFREY BROWN.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN UPTOWN SEDONA.

AND, UH, WE RECENTLY CAME BACK FROM LOS ANGELES.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THERE AND WE ARE JUST AMAZED ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THIS CITY.

UM, THE EXPANSION OF FOREST ROAD, THE PARKING GARAGE.

THERE'S SOME HOUSING UNITS GOING ON IN UPTOWN ON JORDAN, WHICH WE SUPPORT.

WE ALSO SUPPORT THE WESTERN GATEWAY PROJECT, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET HOUSING HERE.

UM, BUT I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW FOR THE RECORD, THE SEDONA IS A VERY PEACEFUL AND TOLERANT PLACE, AND THE RUMORS ON, ON, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA NEED TO KIND OF STOP ABOUT RAIDS IN SEDONA AND, UH, COTTONWOOD, THEY'RE JUST NOT HAPPENING.

THE SHERIFF IN COTTONWOOD SAID THESE KIND OF THINGS AREN'T HAPPENING.

THERE WAS RECENTLY A CUSTOMER AT, UM, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, UM, AT MCDONALD'S THAT HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AND PEOPLE TURN THAT INTO AN ICE RAID.

AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON FACTS AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY NO MATTER WHO THE CULTURE AND WHAT, WHAT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN IS.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU COUNSELORS AND MAYOR.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC FORUM AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH, UH, PROCLAMATIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS.

WE HAVE NONE TODAY.

[8.a. AB 3207 Discussion/possible action regarding approval of the Small Grant Review Committee recommendations for the fiscal year 2026 Small Grants Program in the amount of $350,000.]

OKAY, KRISTA, YOU'RE GONNA LEAD US OFF? I THINK SO.

STEPHANIE, YOU TWO? YES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR VICE MAYOR COUNCIL CHRISTIE TURK, CITY LIAISON FOR THE SMALL GRANTS PROGRAM.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH STEPHANIE GIESBRECHT, WHO SERVES AS THE CHAIR FOR THE SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE.

THIS YEAR MARKS THE 13TH YEAR OF THE CI CITY'S SMALL GRANTS PROGRAM.

THE PROGRAM IS STRUCTURED TO DESIGNATE 40% OF FUNDING TO THE ARTS, 40% OF FUNDING TO SOCIAL SERVICES, AND 20% AT THE COMMITTEE'S DISCRETION.

THE SMALL GRANTS COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP OF SEVEN DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS WHO COMMITTED MANY HOURS TO REVIEWING A TOTAL OF 34 GRAND APPLICATIONS.

THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE STEPHANIE GERECHT, CHRISTINE , DEAN GAIN, PATTY RUSKY, WHO'S HERE TODAY, ED SOUTHWELL, WHO'S ALSO PRESENT, ROSEMARY ZIMMERMAN AND JAMES CARPENTER.

I NOW LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE, WHO WILL SHARE A FEW REMARKS AND HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNSELORS.

WE ARE HONORED TO, UM, HAVE YOU VEST THIS.

OOH, WE'RE VERY HONORED AS A COMMITTEE TO HAVE YOU VEST YOUR TRUST IN US TO, UH, GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IS A $350,000 GRANT AMOUNT WITH, UM, INCLUDING, UH, SEDONA ARTS COMMISSION AND THE FILM FESTIVAL.

IS THAT THE CORRECT ONE? UH, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING HOW WE MADE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

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ANYBODY WISH TO KICK OFF? ANY QUESTIONS? DON'T JUMP UP AT ONE TIME.

WOW.

CONGRATULATIONS ON CANMORE.

KATHY? YES, I I HAD A ONE QUESTION.

UM, ONE OF THE, UM, AWARDEES IN HERE THAT'S RECOMMENDED IS THE SISTER CITY PROGRAM, WHICH GREAT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH JALO.

UM, BUT I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BASED, I THINK FOR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL IS WE, THERE HAD BEEN A, THERE HAD BEEN WORDING ABOUT CITY RESOURCES BEING ALLOCATED TO SISTER CITY PROGRAM.

UM, WE REFINED SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE, AND I WANNA KNOW HOW THAT REFLECTS HERE, OR IF WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PERHAPS, UM, FIND A WAY TO HOLD THIS IN ABEYANCE FIX THAT LANGUAGE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SISTER CITY PROGRAM ELIGIBLE.

SO MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, OUR LANGUAGE AROUND THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

CERTAINLY.

SO, THANK YOU COUNSELOR, UH, KINSELLA, UH, I, ALTHOUGH RELATED, I SEE THOSE AS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

THE DIRECTION FROM MY RECOLLECTION OF STAFF COUNSEL TO STAFF WAS THAT THE CITY WAS NOT TO USE ITS DIRECTLY USE ITS RESOURCES, MEANING STAFF TIME, UM, CITY EMAILS, UM, STAFF MEETING ROOMS ABOVE THE $5,000 LIMIT.

THIS IS SEPARATE.

THIS IS A GRANT, A SMALL GRANT.

UM, THEY ARE ARE NON-PROFIT AND SO THEY'RE ELIGIBLE, UM, FOR A SMALL GRANT.

AND SO, UH, ALSO IF EVEN IF THEY WERE IN CONFLICT COUNCIL ACTION AT THIS POINT, IF THEY WERE TO APPROVE THE GRANT WOULD, WOULD SUPERSEDE THAT PREVIOUS POLICY DECISION.

IT WASN'T LIKE COUNCIL TOOK, UM, YOU KNOW, A RESOLUTION ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I, I KIND OF SEE ONE AS BEING INTERNAL DIRECTION TO STAFF AND WHAT WE COULD USE INTERNALLY.

AND THEN THIS IS BEING A GRANT TO GIVE TO, UM, THE SISTER CITIES, LOCAL SISTER CITIES ORGANIZATION TO USE TO FURTHER THEIR PROGRAM MISSIONS.

AGAIN, I, I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS GRANT.

I'M, I WANNA SEE THIS HAPPEN.

I JUST DON'T WANT US BEING CONTRADICTORY TO POLICY THAT WE HAD SET IN PLACE.

AND I'M STILL NOT, I'M STILL NOT SURE.

I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE YET WITH THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HELP ME GET THERE, KURT.

NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PHRASE IT.

THAT'S THE, THE DIRECTION BEFORE WAS INITIALLY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS DON'T YOU SPEND ANY STAFF TIME OR CITY RESOURCES ON THIS AT ALL? UH, AND THEN EVENTUALLY, UH, COUNCIL CAME AROUND TO, OKAY, YOU CAN, AND, AND THE QUESTION CAME UP, WELL, CAN WE SEND AN EMAIL? CAN WE HAVE A MEET IN A CITY CONFERENCE ROOM? COULD WE PRINT OUT SOMETHING FOR THEM? COULD THEY USE, UM, SOME EXISTING VIDEO OR PHOTOS THAT THE CITY HAS? AND SO AT THAT POINT, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THAT DIRECT STAFF SUPPORT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000.

TO ME, THE THIS $5,000 GRANT IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

IT'S SENT TO THEM TO USE VERSUS WHAT STAFF'S RESTRICTED ON IN BEING ABLE TO DO.

IS THERE WRITTEN LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT POLICY THAT YOU SAID WAS DIRECTION? I THINK IT WAS JUST A COUNCIL DIRECTION AND IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN DOWN IN THE MINUTES, UM, FROM THAT MEETING.

AND I CAN USE IT.

MIKE, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M SEARCHING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE DID HAVE IT AS AN ATTACHMENT IN ONE OF YOUR AGENDA BILLS EARLIER, SO I'LL FIND IT.

WOW.

AND THAT'S SEARCHING FOR THAT.

PETER, DO YOU WANT YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ADD IN HERE.

APPRECIATE COUNCILLOR ELLA BRINGING THAT UP.

I SHARE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS.

I I NOT SURE THAT I CAN JUSTIFY SAYING THE GRANT MONEY ISN'T A CITY RESOURCE.

SO I, I'D ALSO LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WAS SAID AND, AND WHETHER THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.

UH, AND THEN JUST KIND OF FURTHER A A, A SMALL POINT, BUT I DID WANNA BRING IT UP THAT IN THE, IN THE CHART THAT YOU'VE GIVEN, AND I THINK IT'S PACKET, PAGE 67, THERE'S SOME, UH, JUSTIFICATION LANGUAGE BELOW THE GRANT AND YOU USE SOME, SOMEBODY CHOSE TO USE THE WORDS THAT THE, UH, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAMMATIC EXCHANGE IS VITAL AND OBLIGATORY TO SEDONAS PARTICIPATION IN THE SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL.

AND I, I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT.

I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S A CITY OBLIGATION.

THIS IS PERHAPS IF WE PROCEED WITH THIS, THIS IS A CITY CHOICE, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE THIS AS A CITY OBLIGATION AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE PART OF THE RECORD.

SO IT AM I MIS MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SISTER CITIES SAYS.

DOES ANYONE, CAN ANYONE ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I, I DON'T, COUNCILOR FURMAN, I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE USE OF THAT LANGUAGE AND THAT PERHAPS IS WHAT MY INTERPRETATION OF WAS WHEN WE

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SPOKE TO THEM.

BUT THAT IS, THAT IS NOT BEING STATED BY ANYBODY OTHER THAN MYSELF IN THE RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU STEPHANIE.

YEAH, I, I, I'D ALMOST, I I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE RECORD CORRECTED HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

SO WE'VE NOT SETTING ANY KIND OF PRECEDENT ABOUT AN OBLIGATION.

WELL WOULD YOU RATHER SEE THE, THE, THAT ONE PORTION REWORDED TO MAKE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? YEAH.

STRIKE THE, STRIKE THOSE WORDS.

CAN I GET, UH, SOME INPUT FROM THE DAYS? YEAH.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH STRIKING THOSE WORDS.

I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT TOUCHES THE RIGHT, IT DOES AFFECT THE, THE GRANT.

AND THAT, DID YOU FIND YES, SIR.

I DID IT.

IT WAS FROM AGENDA BILL 31 30.

UM, SO THERE WAS A DESCRIPTION ATTACHED THAT GAVE EXAMPLES OF CITY RESOURCES THAT CAN BE USED TO SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION.

UM, AGAIN, THESE WERE EXAMPLES AND ABOUT SUPPORTING THE OPERATION OF THE ORGANIZATION.

UM, THE MARON COUNCIL ARE ALLOWED TO USE CITY EMAIL ACCOUNTS AND COMPUTERS FOR CORRESPONDENCE.

THEY CAN MAIL LETTERS RELATED TO SISTER CITY EVENTS OR TO POTENTIAL SISTER CITIES.

THEY CAN SCHEDULE, UM, CITY CONFERENCE SPACES.

THE CITY MANAGER AND EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CAN YOU CITY EMAIL ACCOUNTS AND COMPUTERS FOR CORRESPONDENCE IN ASSISTING WITH SCHEDULING.

THEY CAN MAKE SPECIAL REQUESTS FOR COLLABORATION ON PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS, UM, THAT SHOWCASE SEDONA AND OUR, UM, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY MYSELF AND THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, TOURISM AND ECONOMIC INITIATIVES.

UM, AND THAT THE TOTAL IN KIND VALUE OF THE CITY'S SUPPORT OF THE ORGANIZATION WAS LIMITED TO $5,000 PER YEAR.

UM, SO I THINK YOU COULD, UM, INTERPRET THAT AS AGAIN, AS, UM, YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL SAID THE INTERNAL SUPPORT FOR LIKE THE OPERATION OF THEIR ORGANIZATION, NOT PROGRAM FUNDING.

I WOULD, SINCE THAT WAS CAN I, SINCE IT WAS ABSOLUTELY RESPONS.

SO I WOULD BE, UM, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS IF WE COULD ALSO JUST AGENDIZE IN THE FUTURE AS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY FIXES, IN MY OPINION, WHAT IS, UM, TOO LOOSE LANGUAGE AROUND WHAT THAT IS STATING THAT SPECIFICALLY THAT THIS DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS GRANTS THE SAME AS ANY OTHER NON-PROFIT ORGANIZ.

I JUST WANNA, I'M JUST TRYING TO COVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOT THE I'S AND CROSS THE T'S UP HERE BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE VERY WORTHY OF THIS.

I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS.

I CAN'T SAY THAT STRONGLY ENOUGH.

I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE A LANGUAGE PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO FIX.

AND I DON'T WANNA HOLD THIS UP BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND MAKE SURE WE FIX OUR LANGUAGE SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THIS FOR THIS WORTHY ORGANIZATION IN THE FUTURE.

SHOULD THEY BE APPLYING AGAIN? OKAY.

DOES THE COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT CHANGE? OKAY.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, IT'S JUST NOT ONE THAT'S, WE ARE UNANIMOUS.

OR AT LEAST, UH, FOUR OF US.

I THINK YOU HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS, SO WELL, COULD WE HAVE THAT ON A, UH, CONSENT AGENDA? WELL, WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT LANGUAGE, SO, WELL IT WOULD BE IN THERE, BUT I'M JUST ASKING WHAT YOU'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH.

YEAH, IT WOULD BE THERE.

VERY SIMPLE.

AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, I, I I THINK IT'S PREMATURE NOVA WOULD BE CONSENT OR REGULAR.

WE'LL SEE WHAT STAFF COMES UP WITH TO DO THAT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PUT IT APPROPRIATELY.

WE LOOKED AT THAT AND THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ON THE PART OF THE COMMITTEE AS TO WHETHER THIS WAS A STRAIGHT PASS THROUGH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BRIAN? THANK YOU MAYOR.

STEPHANIE, CAN YOU TALK AT ALL TO THE ROTARY CLUB VILLAGE OF SEDONA ITEM? THE, UH, THIS ONE JUST STRIKES ME AS STRANGE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A PASS THROUGH.

IT'S NOT REALLY FOR PROGRAMMING OF THE ROTARY CLUB, NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THIS POSITION'S ALREADY BEEN HIRED AND NOW THERE'S GRANT MONIES BEING SOUGHT FOR THE POSITION.

I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE CONFUSED, LIKE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THESE MONIES WERE NOT GRANTED AT THIS TIME, GIVEN THAT THE POSITION'S ALREADY BEEN HIRED.

DO YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE TIME THIS REQUEST WAS MADE WITH US, UH, THE POSITION I DO NOT BELIEVE HAD BEEN HIRED.

I BELIEVE THEY'D CHOSEN THE CANDIDATE TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE.

UM, AND, UH, LET ME ADDRESS THE PASS THROUGH PART OF IT FIRST, IF I MAY.

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AND ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD HOW THE PROGRAM NEEDED TO WORK, THE PROGRAM WAS NOT REALLY ABOUT HIRING THE POSITION FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UM, ADMINISTERING PERHAPS OR PERFORMING THE EDUCATION ITSELF.

IT, IT'S POSITIONING THE, UM, THE EXTENDED DAY PROGRAM IN SUCH A FASHION TO BE ABLE TO SEEK FEDERAL FUNDING NEXT YEAR IN ORDER TO CONTINUE WITH THIS, WITH THE EXTENDED DAY PROGRAM, WHICH THE COMMITTEE HAS STRONG FEEL STRONGLY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, RETAINING WORKFORCE STABILITY IN THIS AREA IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND THAT THE EXTENDED DAY PROGRAM, IN FACT, FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, PRETTY MUCH ALLOWS OUR WORKFORCE HERE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME FROM OTHER AREAS, OR EVEN HERE IN SEDONA, TO, UH, CONTINUE TO WORK BECAUSE THEY, THEY FEEL SAFE THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE IN A PROGRAM THAT IS, UM, WELL SUPERVISED.

EVIDENTLY THIS, THIS IS, UH, FROM WHAT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS, UM, THE EXTENDED DAY PROGRAM CONCEPT IS NOT JUST HERE IN SEDONA.

IT'S, UM, IT'S, I THINK IT'S BECOME A NATIONAL PROBLEM TO WHERE THERE IS FEDERAL FUNDING BEING MADE AVAILABLE.

HOWEVER, IN ORDER FOR, UM, OUR PROGRAM HERE IN SEDONA TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR VA VA FUNDING, THERE NEEDS TO BE, UH, AN A DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION WITH THAT TITLE IN PLACE THAT WILL, UM, OVERSEE THE PROGRAM BASED ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA SET BY THE FEDERAL GRANTING PROGRAM THAT WILL ADHERE TO THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW CERTAIN PATHWAYS THAT ALLOW THIS, ALLOW THIS PERSON TO, UM, AND THIS PERSON WILL ALSO BE WRITING THE GRANT FOR, UH, GETTING THIS FEDERAL FUNDING ON THE EX ON THE EXTENDED DAY.

AND WE JUST FELT THAT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS GRANT WAS NOT PROVIDED? NO, I CAN'T SAY.

I, I, I DO NOT KNOW.

ALTHOUGH I DO KNOW THAT THIS ORGANIZATION, UM, HAS REQUESTED $20,000 FROM THE CITY.

THEY ALREADY HAVE A FOUNDATION GRANT, I BELIEVE IN THE AMOUNT OF 25,000.

THE TOTAL, UM, PAY, UH, SALARY FOR THIS PERSON'S 105.

AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE RAISED 35,000 SO FAR AND ARE CONTINUING TO THAT.

AND THAT WAS AS OF WHAT, A MONTH OR SO AGO OR HOWEVER LONG THAT WAS.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE CONTINUING FUNDRAISING IN ORDER FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.

I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER THEY WOULD, UM, I KNOW THEY VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY PARTICIPATE IN THAT, IN THIS, AND OF COURSE IT WOULD MAKE THE JOB EASIER WHETHER THEY WOULD GET IT DONE WITHOUT THE CITY FUNDING.

I CANNOT ANSWER THAT.

'CAUSE IF IT DOESN'T, THEN THIS WOULD PUT I THE ROTARY CLUB OVER THE GOAL.

AND KURT, QUESTION TO YOU, IS THERE ANY LEGAL ISSUE? I MEAN, IN MY MIND, THIS GRANT IS ESSENTIALLY THE CITY PROVIDING DIRECT FUNDING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO IS THERE ANY ISSUE IN STATE STATUTE THAT PREVENTS SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM HAPPENING? NO.

SO IN FACT, LOANS AND COOPERATIONS BETWEEN GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE, ARE, ARE MORE SAFE THAN OTHER TYPES OF GRANTS.

THERE, THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE TABLE AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR, UM, PACKET WHERE IT SAYS FY 2026, CITY OF SEDONA SMALL GRANT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AS ACCURATE.

BUT IN THE, UH, FOLLOW FOLLOW UP, UH, IN THE TABLES, IT'S, IT'S THE ROTARY CLUB OF SEDONA, NOT THE ROTARY CLUB OF SEDONA VILLAGE.

SO IT SAYS THE ROTARY CLUB OF SEDONA VILLAGE, BUT IT ISN'T.

IT'S THE ROTARY CLUB OF SEDONA.

AND AS OF TODAY, $88,000 HAS BEEN RAISED TOWARDS THE GOAL.

AND THAT MONEY IS BEING RAISED FROM EVERY, YOU KNOW, FACET THAT THE CLUB MEMBERS, BUSINESS COMMUNITY, INDIVIDUALS, ET CETERA.

IF THE MONEY AND THE GOAL IS THE 105,000, IF THAT MONEY ISN'T RAISED, THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL HAVE TO DECIDE.

SO 88,000 OF THE 1 0 5 HAS BEEN RAISED.

IF THE REST OF IT DOESN'T COME IN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY CAN, AND I BELIEVE IT WILL, BY THE WAY, 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A PRETTY ROBUST FUNDRAISING PROGRAM.

BUT THE CITY WOULD, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD'VE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY CAN MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE OR NOT.

AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE LAID OFF.

BUT I, I BELIEVE IT WILL BE THAT THE FUNDRAISING WILL BE ACHIEVED.

IS THE EIGHT, DOES THE 88 INCLUDE THE 18 PROPOSED HERE?

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I THINK.

I THINK IT DOES.

YOU THINK IT ALREADY INCLUDES IT? YEAH, I THINK SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

UH, TIM PERRY TO START.

WE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ALICE MATTER.

ARE GOOD EVENING COUNSELORS.

MY NAME IS TIM PERRY AND I LIVE IN SEDONA.

KNOWING HOW MUCH THIS DATA-DRIVEN COUNCIL DOESN'T ACTUALLY WANT TO HAVE THE FULL CONTEXT FOR ANYTHING, I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST, UH, DROP IN A COUPLE INTERESTING, UH, HISTORICAL AND ANTHROPOLOGICAL POINTS THAT, UH, RELATE TO THIS PROGRAM.

THE FIRST IS SIMPLY TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, IF THE CITY WERE NOT EXTRACTING, WHAT IS IT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 11 AND $12 MILLION FROM RESIDENTS AT GUNPOINT IN SO-CALLED TAXES EVERY YEAR, WE, THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS MUCH BETTER THAN THE CITY EVER POSSIBLY COULD.

EVEN 10% OF THE DIVERTED FUNDING WOULD MORE THAN TRIPLE THE GRANT ALLOCATIONS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.

BUT OF COURSE, THE CITY NEEDS TO SIPHON SOME OF THAT OFF TO FUND ITS MIDDLEMEN.

YOU KNOW, JARED DIAMOND EXPRESSED IT REALLY BEAUTIFULLY WHEN HE SAID THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A KLEPTOCRAT AND A WISE STATESMAN BETWEEN A ROBBER BARON AND A PUBLIC BENEFACTOR IS ONE OF DEGREE.

IT'S HOW MUCH OF THE TRIBUTE EXTRACTED FROM THE PRODUCERS BY THE RULING ELITE IS RETAINED BY THE ELITE AND HOW MUCH THE PUBLIC LIKES THE USES THAT THAT TRIBUTE IS THEN PUT TO BY THE ELITE.

ANOTHER INTERESTING POINT TO CONSIDER HERE, WHICH HASN'T REALLY BEEN TALKED ABOUT DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS MUCH IS THE CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY NOW REQUIRES ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVING THESE GRANTS TO SIGN.

SO FAR, THE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN PRETTY INNOCUOUS, BUT I ALWAYS DO WONDER WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN THE FUTURE WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE FIRST CONTRACT, UH, FOR A SMALL GRANT RECIPIENT GOING TO BE PROPOSED THAT REQUIRES THEM TO PLACE A LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT IN ALL OF THEIR MATERIALS.

WE KNOW THAT'S A BIG ONE FOR COUNCILOR MELISSA DUNN, OR THE FIRST ONE, REQUIRE THEM TO DEED RESTRICT ANY PROPERTIES THEY OWN SO THEY DON'T BECOME SHORT TERM RENTALS OR THE FIRST RESTRICTION ON WHAT THEIR PROGRAMMING CAN ACTUALLY BE.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THESE IN THE CONTRACTS YET, BUT IT'S NOT HARD TO GUESS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY CIRCULATING IN THE MINDS OF CITY STAFF OR SIMILAR IDEAS AND THAT WE WILL SEE THEM IN THE FUTURE.

JUST A FEW THINGS TO CONTEMPLATE AS THIS PROGRAM MOVES FORWARD.

OKAY, ALICE, YOU'RE NEXT.

ALICE IS OUR LAST, UH, SPEAKER.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN TO THIS PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'S VERY VALUABLE IN SUPPORTING ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN SEDONA.

I DIDN'T SAY MY NAME, SORRY.

ALICE MADAR, RESIDENT OF SEDONA, AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE INTERNATIONAL HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY, WHICH, UM, I HOPE IF IT'S APPROVED, WE'LL BE ONE OF THE GRANT RECIPIENTS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALL RECIPIENTS.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, ALICE.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THEN, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE DAYS.

DEREK, I JUST WANNA THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THE WORK THAT IT DID.

UH, IT'S OBVIOUS YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT OF MATERIAL, SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND, UH, PUT A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION INTO IT.

SO JUST THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COUNSEL, PETE.

COMPLICATED, NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE AS ALWAYS MORE PEOPLE WHO NEED FUNDING THAN WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ACOG CONVERSATION.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT STEPHANIE, YOU AND THE TEAM AND CHRISTIE, UH, PUT INTO THIS PROJECT, UH, MANAGING LOTS OF DETAILS THAT IT'S NOT COUNCIL TIME THAT HAD TO DO IT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT KATHY.

STEPHANIE'S HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE, BUT WHENEVER I'M NOT ON COUNCIL, I WANNA SERVE ON YOUR COMMITTEE BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS DO A BANG UP JOB.

AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL COUNSELORS.

BRIAN, THANK YOU MAYOR, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL THE TIME, ENERGY AND EFFORT THAT, THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS.

AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT AS A CITY WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US THAT WE CAN FUND SO MANY WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS.

AND, UH, JUST PLEASED TO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO SO.

THANK YOU, MELISSA.

I KNOW YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING THANKS STEPHANIE AND THOSE OF YOU ON THE COMMITTEE WHO ARE SITTING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT THANK YOU.

AND THIS YEAR, I KNOW IT WAS PARTICULARLY

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UM, AND YOU ALL HAD TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

I KNOW STEPHANIE, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT, UM, WHICH MAKES ALL OF US JUST A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THIS YEAR.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE, UM, FOR THEIR PATIENCE AS WE FIGURE IT OUT AND YOUR, UM, PATIENCE FOR LETTING US FIGURE IT OUT AND, UM, YOUR TOLERANCE THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.

SO I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THIS VICE MAYOR.

I KNOW ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE IS A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ON, UH, THE A CF GRANT PANELS FOR YEARS, AND THEN HE ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS ONE .

UH, I, I TOO, UH, BELIEVE THIS YEAR WAS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED.

AND THANK YOU STEPHANIE, FOR BEING WILLING TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NOT ONLY IS IT REWARDING, I THINK IS TO BE SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO HAVE TO RACK AND STACK.

AND SOME FOLKS, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA GIVE THEM AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE AND YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE UP, YOU KNOW, AT THE TOP OF THE ALLOCATION.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT IF I WAS SERVING ON IT.

I WOULD LOSE SLEEP, I THINK, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO WORTHY.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST WONDERFUL PROGRAMS AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM AS A COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

I CAN'T ADD TOO MUCH MORE, MORE THANKS.

SEVEN THANKS.

FROM US UP HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, STEPHANIE, YOU'VE DONE THIS FOR, I LOST COUNT HOW MANY YEARS AND YOU KEEP COMING BACK FOR MORE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD DO WITHOUT YOUR GUIDANCE ON THIS AND THE WAY YOU GET PEOPLE TOGETHER TO DO IT AND WORK WITH YOU.

AND IT IS A VERY TOUGH JOB.

AND I APPRECIATE, AND CHRISTIE, I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING IN THIS YEAR AND AS A STAFF PERSON, AND I'VE HEARD YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AND PUTTING ASIDE SOME OF YOUR OTHER, UH, DUTIES DURING THE DAY TO DO THIS.

SO IT'S REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATED.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR COMMENTS.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

VICE MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SMALL GRANTS REVIEW COMMITTEE FISCAL YEAR 2026, RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $350,000 AS ITEMIZED IN EXHIBIT A WITH THE CONTINGENCY THAT EXHIBIT B WILL BE IMPLEMENTED INSTEAD IF THE ACOG PROGRAM IS ESTABLISHED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.

ANY DISCUSSION? OH, SECOND.

I'M SORRY.

AND NOW ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? UNANIMOUS.

UH, MAYOR, WHO SECONDED THAT ITEM, PLEASE? BRIAN.

COUNCILLOR LTZ.

HEY, CHRISTIE, IS THIS YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION RIGHT? TO COUNCIL? YOU DID A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY WELL.

THANK

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YOU.

ALRIGHT, IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T MIND, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UP.

I'M GOING TO MOVE UP.

ITEM E I'M SORRY, NOT ITEM E, UH, ITEM D, AB 32 39.

DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF SISTER CITY'S LETTER OF INTENT, UH, WITH JALO POLAND, INCLUDING A PRESENTATION UPDATE BY SISTER CITY'S, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS CHAIR CHUCK MOORE.

YALO, WHAT DID I SAY? JALO? OH, EXCUSE ME.

YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.

WORK ON THE FLOOR.

YEAH, I SHOULD DO THAT, BUT MY WIFE WILL BE VERY UPSET WITH ME.

I COULD TELL YOU THAT.

CITY WERE LENGTHY BUT WORTHWHILE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU CAN JUST USE THE ARROW IF YOU'D LIKE.

MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US TIME AGAIN, UH, TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT SISTER CITIES AND WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT YES.

L UH, I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR HELP IN THESE PAST FOUR YEARS.

UH, THE, THE, UH, STEPS THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO FIND THE RIGHT FIRST SIS SISTER

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AND AS, UH, THE, UH, MAYOR SAID, UH, I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THESE FOLKS.

AND I, AND I KNOW THEY'LL BE COMING DOWN HERE.

UH, WE CAN LEARN A LOT FROM EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE REALLY ARE AWFULLY CLOSE IN TERMS OF A NUMBER OF IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT, UH, OF ACT ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE, UH, ALL WORKING ON.

UH, AND I DO DO WANNA THANK THE MAYOR FOR, FOR COMING AND PAIN HIS OWN WAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, QUITE, I, I'VE HAD FOLKS SAY, WELL, THIS IS ALL A BOONDOGGLE THAT THE CITY PAYS FOR, FOR TRIPS.

AND SISTER CITIES PAYS FOR TRIPS.

EVERYBODY PAYS THEIR OWN WAY ON ALL OF THESE TRIPS.

UH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED, THAT ARE PASSIONATE.

AND BOY, DO WE EVER.

SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, START NOW ABOUT, UH, A PROPOSED FRIENDSHIP AGREEMENT WITH OSLO, POLAND.

UM, AT THIS POINT, THEY, THEY'RE ABOUT AS DIFFERENT FROM CAN, FROM CANMORE AS THEY CAN BE.

UH, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT TYPE CITY, A DIFFERENT CULTURE.

THEY'RE 650 YEARS OLD.

AND, UH, THERE IS A LOT THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM, FROM THEM ABOUT HISTORY AND ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AS A PEOPLE.

IT'S, IT'S A TOWN OF ABOUT 35,000, AND IT'S IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF POLAND, ABOUT 50 MILES FROM THE UKRAINIAN BORDER.

UH, BUT THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BOTHER THEM AT ALL.

AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY OPEN TO ACCEPTING FOLKS FROM THE UKRAINE.

UM, A QUICK RUN THROUGH ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, WE'VE DONE, UH, IN, UH, GETTING TO, TO THIS POINT TO ASK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF A FRIENDSHIP AGREEMENT.

UM, WE HAD A REMARKABLE PERSON, A EDIT , UH, SHOW UP AT, AT A MEETING, AND SHE SAID, I'M FROM OSLO.

I THINK WE, IT'D BE A GREAT SI SISTER CITY.

AND WE SAID, THAT'S FINE, BUT HERE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA DO IN TERMS OF GETTING A COMMITTEE SET SET UP.

AND, UH, AND OUR BOARD HAVING TO REALLY STUDY AND KNOW MORE ABOUT THE TOWN BE BEFORE WE COULD EVEN, UH, MOVE AHEAD.

SHE GOT THAT DONE IN RECORD TIME.

AND, UH, WE, WE ALSO, DURING, DURING THAT TIME, FOUND A NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE IN TOWN THAT HAVE A POLISH BACK BACKGROUND, INCLUDING OUR MAYOR, MY WIFE .

SO AS A RESULT OF OUR TRIP TO, UM, YALO LAST AUGUST, WE HAD TWO SPECIAL GUESTS THAT, UM, CAME TO SEDONA IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR WAS, UH, EL RA COZY, WHO'S CURRENTLY THE DIRECTOR OF THE J-D-K-J-D-K CULTURAL CENTER IN YALO.

UH, BUT, UH, TO, TO REALLY FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE, UH, TOWN.

UH, EIGHT OF US WENT TO YY SLO LAST SUMMER, UH, IN, IN AUGUST FOR, FOR THEIR, UH, 17TH ANNUAL, UH, UH, DAYS OF WINE.

UH, AND THIS IS A F FESTIVAL THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THAT, THAT BRINGS FOLKS IN FROM ALL OVER EUROPE, UH, TO SHOW THEIR, THEIR, THEIR VARIOUS WINES.

UH, A A KEY POINT ABOUT THAT TOWN IS THAT IT HAS 17 WINERIES AROUND IT, AND THE TOWN, IT, IT ITSELF OWNS, OWNS A WINERY.

UH, AS SOON AS WE GOT THAT TRIP OVER, UH, WE HAD MET A, UH, DIRECTOR, A FILM DIRECTOR THERE WHO HAD JUST FI FI FINISHED HIS FILM RAISED TO, TO THE GROUND.

AND WE WERE A ABLE, IN LESS THAN THREE WEEKS TIME TO SET UP A SHOWING HERE AT THE MARY FISHER THEATER, AS WELL AS THERE IN THEIR 300 SEAT WONDERFUL THEATER IN THEIR, UH, CENTER, UH, THIS, UH, FILM, WHICH REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF WORLD, UH, WORLD, WORLD, WORLD WAR II WHEN, UH, THE GERMANS DESTROYED THAT TOWN.

IT WAS 98 PER PER PERCENT DESTROYED.

UH, AND, UH, SO AS YOU LOOK AT THINGS AROUND THE TOWN, IT'S FAIRLY NEW WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER CI C CITIES.

WELL, IT'S BE BECAUSE THEY, THEY, UH, CAME BACK AND HAD TO BUILD, UH, THAT, UH, UH, NEW, THE, THE, UH, NEW TOWN.

UM, AND THEN WE CAME TO, TO YOU AT THE END OF THAT LAST OCTOBER AND GAVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ABOUT WHERE WE, WE WERE.

BUT AGAIN, WE, WE STILL HAD WORK TO GET DONE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT CITY.

AND THE KEY TO MAKING IT ALL WORK IS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A STRONG GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AS WELL AS THERE.

AND SO WE STARTED TO WORK ON, ON THAT SI SIDE OF THINGS, UH, AND DONNA, UH, 4, 4, 4 4, 4 4 FOREN.

OUR SECRETARY WILL, UH, SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.

BUT FIRST, LET'S TAKE A QUICK RUN, UH, RUN, RUN THROUGH OF THE TOWN

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OF YASO.

THIS, THIS IS A, A SHORT, UH, FILM THAT THEY, UH, SENT US, AND WE'LL SEE IF IT WORKS.

AND I'LL TRY TO TALK THROUGH AND PO POINT OUT SOME, SOME, SOME OF THE KEY POINTS.

IT, IT'S IN POLISH, BUT IN, IN, UH, UH, SUBTITLE, UH, UH, SUBTITLES.

UH, AND ONE MORE POINT IS DURING THIS LAST 10 YEARS, THE, UH, UH, NATION JOINED THE EU AND THEY HAD SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING TO DO MANY OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE.

ORGANISM.

THEY HAVE A 300 SEAT THEATER, AND THE LIBRARY IS ALSO PART OF THE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER HAS, UH, SENT A FORMAL INVITATION TO THE, UH, RED, RED ROCK, UH, SCHOOL, UH, ASKING THE VOLLEYBALL TEAM TO COME TO A REGIONAL CONFERENCE IN THIS NEXT YEAR.

THIS IS THE GEN CENTER, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT IN A SECOND, IS WORTH $3 AND SIX 60 CENTS IN US.

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AND BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS THE VICE MAYOR OF YALO FOR MANY YEARS.

AND ISH ZIRA, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE, UM, YALO SISTER CITIES COMMITTEE AND YAS, WE GAVE THEM A WHIRLWIND TOUR OF SEDONA, WHICH INCLUDED THE FILM FESTIVAL.

THEY WENT TO SOME OF THE FILMS. UM, WE GAVE THEM A TOUR OF THE GOLDSTEIN GALLERY, AND WE HAD A SPECIAL TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE THEY MADE A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION OF, UM, OF SLO AND EXPLAINED MORE ABOUT THEIR, UH, THEIR CITY TO US.

AS A RESULT OF THAT VISIT, THINGS BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES, UM, STARTED MOVING INTO HIGH GEAR AND WE STARTED MORE PROJECTS AND, UH, WE PUT THEM INTO MOTION.

UM, AT THE PRESENT TIME FROM, ACTUALLY FROM YESTERDAY UNTIL TOMORROW, LORI INGER, THE DIRECTOR OF THE SCIENCE VORTEX HERE, AND HER HUSBAND AND TWO CHIEF SCIENCE OFFICERS, HER CHILDREN, UM, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY WENT TO SLO AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY THERE AS GUESTS OF THE GEN SCIENCE DIRECTOR IN SLO TO SHARE, UM, SCIENCE EXPERIMENT EXPERIMENTS WITH THE YASS L STUDENTS.

UM, BESIDES GOING TO THE GEN SCIENCE CENTER, THEY'VE, THEY ALSO VISITED THE ASTRONOMICAL OBSERVATORY IN YASSO, WHERE THE STAFF GAVE THEM AN OVERVIEW OF ASTRONOMY EFFORTS AND THEIR DARK SKY INITIATIVES.

THEY'LL ALSO TAKE A TOUR OF THE JDK CULTURAL CENTER AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY OF JDK.

FROM THE PHOTOS AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BACK FROM THEM, THEY ARE HAVING THE SCIENCE TIME OF THEIR LIVES, UM, ELRA AND ISH, WERE THERE TO GREET THEM AND WELCOME THEM AS WELL.

SO, AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT VISIT, UM, YALO PUTS ON A SCIENCE FESTIVAL AT THE GEN GEN SCIENCE CENTER, AND THIS YEAR, IN OCTOBER, THE STUDENTS OF THE SCIENCE VORTEX HERE HAVE BEEN INVITED TO ZOOM IN AND BE A PART OF THAT FESTIVAL.

SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT, UM, SISTER CITIES IS WORKING ON FACILITATING BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES IN AUGUST.

SISTER CITIES, SEDONA, SISTER CITIES IS HOSTING A BEAUTY AND HISTORY OF SEDONA THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHY OUTDOOR EXHIBIT IN THE YALO TOWN SQUARE DURING THE INTERNATIONAL WINE FESTIVAL.

LINDA GOLDSTEIN OF GOLDSTEIN GALLERY WILL BE THERE, ALONG WITH, UM, OTHER, UH, SEDONA SISTER CITY MEMBERS.

LINDA WILL BE PRESENTING SEDONA THROUGH THE LENS, A CAPTIVATING PHOTO EXHIBIT THAT EXPLORES THE BREATHTAKING LANDSCAPES AND VIBRANT CULTURAL HERITAGE OF SEDONA.

THE PHOTOS THAT SHE'S TAKING OVER THERE INCLUDE, UM, HISTORIC PHOTOS OF, OF SEDONA, OUR GORGEOUS LANDSCAPES, OUR DARK, DARK SKIES, UM, ARCHITECTURE, AND MORE OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AREA.

THE PHOTOS ARE GOING TO BE ENLARGED, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE SET UP IN THE TOWN SQUARE FOR THE LOCALS TO SEE WITH, UM, EXPLANATIONS.

AND, UH, IT'LL BE PHOTOS FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF SEDONA UP UNTIL THE PRESENT DAY, SO THEY'LL GET A, A FLAVOR OF WHAT SEDONA LOOKS LIKE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS PROGRAM, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM REGARDING IT.

SO IN A RECIPROCAL EFFORT IN THE SAME LINE, UH, SEDONA SISTER CITY ASSOCIATION IS ORGANIZING AN OUTDOOR EXHIBIT

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OF PHOTO PHOTOGRAPHS OF YALO TO BE DISPLAYED IN SEDONA WITH THE HELP OF THESE, UH, SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM, WHICH, UM, THEY'LL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING THEIR 650TH ANNIVERSARY IN SEPTEMBER, THIS SEPTEMBER.

SO THIS, UM, PHOTO DISPLAY OF OSLO WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR OUR LOCAL CITIZENS HERE TO SEE THE BEAUTY AND THE HISTORY OF, OF YALO.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES WE HAVE, UM, ACTUALLY PLANNED AND PLANNING.

WE HAVE OTHERS, OTHER IDEAS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY COMING UP.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ORGANIZED, WE'RE COMMITTED, AND WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY TO BEING A POSITIVE OR TO BUILDING A POSITIVE LONG LASTING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE OF YALO, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIME OBJECTIVES OF THE SISTER CITIES ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

THANK YOU, DONNA.

AND THERE'S MORE , UH, THE GROUP THAT'S GONNA GO OVER THERE AGAIN.

UH, THE END OF AU AUGUST, UM, UH, THE, UH, VER VERDE VALLEY WINE CONSORTIUM HAS BEEN ASKED TO BRING OUR WINES THERE AND TO SHOW THEM AND TO SELL THEM AS PART OF THE OVERALL WINE FESTIVAL.

UH, AND THERE ARE TWO FOLKS THAT, THAT FROM, FROM HERE THAT ARE GOING THERE.

AGAIN, THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF INDEPENDENT WINERIES, AND THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO LEARN FROM, FROM THEM AND THEM FROM US.

THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SOIL THAN US.

THEY, THEY, UH, RAISED DI DIFFERENT GRAPES THAN US.

SO THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AND, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE A, A HIGHLIGHT OF THE, UH, TRIP.

AND I THINK THERE, THERE ARE, AS OF NOW, NINE OF US GOING OVER THERE, UH, FOR THAT EVENT.

AND THEN, UH, AND LINDA, LINDA, HER LINDA'S PHOTOGRAPHIC DISPLAY WILL BE IN THE TOWN SQUARE DURING THAT, THAT TIME DURING THE WINE FESTIVAL, RIGHT? SO IT'S KIND OF A COMBINATION.

AND THEN, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE, UH, POLISH AMERICAN CON CONGRESS IN PHOENIX, AND, UH, THERE ARE 300,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA THAT HAVE A POLISH THAT BACKGROUND.

AND DO THEY DO FESTIVALS AND ACTIVITIES? ? UH, WELL, THIS YEAR, UH, THEIR ANNUAL PICNIC, UH, THERE WAS A CONFLICT THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE IT.

SO THEY CALLED US UP AND SAID, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO CO-SPONSOR THE FIRST SEDONA POLISH PICNIC? WE SAID, OKAY.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE 30TH OF SEPTEMBER AT AT POSSE GROUNDS.

THEY'RE GONNA COME UP, THEY'RE GONNA BRING ALL THE FOOD.

SO IT'S, UH, BRATS, IT'S PIEROGIS AND BEER, LOT OF POLISH BEER .

SO, UH, WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL, WILL, UH, PLAN TO, UH, COME AND THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE ON, ON, ON THAT.

UH, AND SO BE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING SHORT, DONNA.

UH, HERE'S THE TWO COMMITTEES THAT, THAT ARE, ARE NOW FORMED.

YOU, YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A GOOD STRONG GROUP HERE.

AND, UH, ON THE YASSO SIGNED SIDE, UM, UH, ALL THE HEADS OF ALL OF THE MAJOR CULTURAL, UH, ACT ACTIVITIES ARE PART OF, UH, THAT COMMITTEE.

AND THEY'RE ADDING FOLKS TO IT, UH, DAILY AS WE GET INTO VARIOUS ACTIVITIES GOING ON, UH, WE, WE, WE HAD A GOOD CHANCE TO VISIT WITH, UM, THE VICE MAYOR OF, UM, YA YALO.

UH, THEIR, THEIR COUNCIL HAS APPROVED A LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH CAME ALONG WITH THIS, THIS RE RE RECOMMENDATION, UH, WITH THE PURPOSE TO FOSTER FRIENDSHIP AND COOPERATION BE BETWEEN NATIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING A BETTER FUTURE, INITIATE ACTIONS INTENDED TO ESTABLISH MUTUAL PARTNERSHIP RELATIONS AND COOPERATION, COOPERATION IN AREAS OF E ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CULTURE, SPORTS, AND EDUCATION AND TOURISM, WITH A PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON WINE TOURISM BECAUSE THEY ARE AS ACTIVE IN, IN THAT AREA AS WE ARE HERE, BUT STILL IS MUCH MORE TO, TO LEARN.

AND THAT COOPERATION SHALL BE CARRIED OUT THROUGH NON GOVERNMENTAL OR ORGANIZATIONS.

IEA SEPARATE SI, SI SISTER CITY, NOT FOR PROFITS THAT, UH, THAT ARE ESTABLISHED ON, UH, IN BOTH CITIES.

SO THAT'S SAID, UH, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE A FRIENDSHIP CITIES AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, MIDWAY STEP TO A SISTER CITIES AGREEMENT.

IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH

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CANMORE OVER A YEAR, YEAR AGO.

THIS GIVES US MORE TIME TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS FOR, IT GIVES US TIME TO REALLY TEST THINGS OUT.

AND IF IT'S WORKING AS WE BELIEVE IT IS, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO, TO YOU IN A, A, A YEAR FOR A FORMAL SISTER CITY DESIGNATION.

UH, SO THAT SAID, WINNIE, I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR YOU, BUT SHE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL OH, I KNOW.

IN COORDINATING SO MANY THINGS, INCLUDING THE EVENT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED IN TERMS OF THE GRANT.

AND, UH, SHE'S A GREAT PART OF, OF OUR SI OUR SISTER CITY GROUP QUICKLY.

JUST AN ASIDE, AS YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD THE CHOREOGRAPHY, UM, EVENT HERE IN SEDONA, AND ONE OF THE CHOREOGRAPHERS IS POLISH.

AND FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY, HE IS WORLD RENOWNED ROBERT BOND, AND USUALLY TO DO HIS, UM, CHOREOGRAPHY, YOU HAVE TO BE A MAJOR BALLET COMPANY.

BUT HE ALLOWED US TO HAVE IT DONE BY PROFESSIONALS IN SEDONA AND IN CHARIT OF CHARGING US BECAUSE OF THE SLO POTENTIAL RELATIONSHIP AND A POLISH RELATIONSHIP.

SO INSTEAD OF CHARGING US WHAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 28,000 OR SOME RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, HE LET US HAVE IT FOR $350.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WAS DUE TO SISTER CITY.

SO THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S OUR BRIEF PRESENTATION QUESTIONS.

SO, BRIAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WAS LOOKING UP SOME INFORMATION DURING YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, THE AVERAGE AGE IN JOLO IS ABOUT 25 YEARS YOUNGER THAN SEDONA.

UM, YET THE POPULATION'S DECREASING.

UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THE POPULATION IS DECREASING THERE? UH, I DROPPED ABOUT 3000 OR 3, 3, 3 OR 4,000 AND IAAA ASKED THEM THAT.

AND, UM, UH, THEY'RE STARTING TO, TO GET MORE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING IN AND, AND BUYING HOMES FOR APARTMENTS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.

SHORT TERM.

I DIDN'T, I WASN'T GONNA GO THERE, .

THAT'S RIGHT.

UH, SO, BUT THEY'RE JUST AT THE VERY, VERY START.

SO, SO THEY ASK US, WELL, WHAT'S GOING ON IN SEDONA? I SAID, WELL, WE CAN SHARE A LOT WITH YOU AS TO WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO, UH, DO.

UM, UH, BUT THEY, THEY ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, NOW AN AGING POPULATION AND IT, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO, TO PAY MORE ATTENTION, UH, ATTENTION TO THAT GROUP.

UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, POLAND OVERALL, I THINK IS, IS LOSING POP POPULATION.

BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, BOTH, BOTH COUNTRIES, CITIES, UH, AND OPEN UP FOR EU MEMBERS WHO, AND WE EXPERIENCED THIS A LITTLE BIT WITH IRELAND, RIGHT? DON'T REALLY, THEY'RE SO FOCUSED ON THEIR ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, AND IN PROVING THEIR, THEIR, UH, ABILITY TO SUCCEED ECONOMICALLY, ESPECIALLY SOME LIKE POLAND WHO CAME OUT OF THE, OF THE COMMUNIST ERA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MELISSA, VICE MAYOR.

SO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS EDITOR WHO YOU HEARD CHUCK TALK ABOUT BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING WITH SEDONA.

SHE'S ACTUALLY BEEN NAMED THE INTERNATIONAL REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVE OF POLAND FROM SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL.

RIGHT? SO NOW POLAND HAS ITS OWN, UH, LIAISON, AND IT'S ALSO BECAUSE OF SEDONA.

SO THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING, AND, UH, I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CALL AND THE ZOOM WITH THE VICE MAYOR WHO SPOKE VERY ENGLISH VERY WELL, AND THE REP, A A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAK ENGLISH WELL THERE, UH, AND IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE, UH, ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE SISTER CITIES ON THE GROUND ORGANIZATION WAS ON THE, WE WAS BY ZOOM, OF COURSE.

AND HE SAID TO ME, YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE THIS, BUT FROM MY OFFICE, BEHIND ME IS AN AIRPORT, AND IT'S THE AIRPORT WHERE ALL OF THE US UKRAINIAN ASSETS COME INTO POLAND, GET ACCUMULATED THERE, AND THEN GET SHIPPED TO UKRAINE.

SO THEY ARE REALLY CLOSE TO THE BORDER, AND THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

UH, THEY ALSO, I THINK WERE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED TO THE EU, WHICH IS VERY FORMAL AND IS ALL ABOUT ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP.

AND THIS IS REALLY MORE CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL RELATIONSHIP, WHICH TOOK THEM A MINUTE TO GET THEIR HEADS AROUND.

BUT ONCE THEY DID, WHICH REALLY WAS ONLY A MINUTE, NOT LIKE CANMORE , UH, THEY REALLY WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL

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AND LASTLY, I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN THE MOVIE RAISED TO THE GROUND WAS HERE, IT WAS SIMULCAST BETWEEN SLO AND SEDONA, AND YOU COULD SEE THE AUDIENCE IN SLO AND THEY COULD SEE THE AUDIENCE IN SEDONA.

AND THERE WAS CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS.

BUT WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME WAS A F PHENOMENAL FILM.

AND I HOPE, AND IT WAS ONLY IN, WASN'T EVEN READY YET.

IT WAS LIKE A DIRECTOR'S CUT.

UH, I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE IT HERE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS AMAZING TO SEE WHEN THE GERMANS LEFT, THEY OCCUPIED THE CITY, AND WHEN THEY LEFT, THEY LEFT AND SAID, WE'VE LOST THE WAR, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS CITY TO EXIST.

AND THEY BURNED IT TO THE GROUND ON THEIR WAY OUT OF TOWN, AND PEOPLE HAD TO EVACUATE.

AND THEY SHOWED ALL THESE, UH, PEOPLE HAVING TO WALK OVER THE MOUNTAINS TO GET TO SAFETY AND THE RESILIENCE OF THESE PEOPLE TO REBUILD THEIR COMMUNITY WAS REALLY ASTONISHING.

AND SO I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SEE THAT AND EXPERIENCE THAT.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR DEREK.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WITH POLAND'S, UH, WITH THE IMPERIAL AMBITIONS OF ONE IN POLAND'S NEIGHBORS, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING EFFORTS TO STRENGTHEN TIES WITH, UH, COUNTRY IN EASTERN EUROPE.

UH, PARTICULARLY A TIME WHEN AMERICA'S INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS ARE IFFY, I GUESS I WOULD SAY.

UM, SO ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, PETE.

YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK IT WAS BACK IN 1989, I WAS INVITED TO GO TO POLAND BY THE MINISTER OF AVIATION.

AND, UH, WE TOURED LOTS OF, WELL, IT WASN'T LOTS, BUT A FEW AIRCRAFT PLANTS IN DIFFERENT CITIES, AND ONE OF THEM WAS THE SAFFRON AIRCRAFT, ENGINE PLANT, JUST NORTH AN HOURS DRIVE OF SLO.

UH, AND THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WANTED TO, UH, MENTION.

ONE WAS THAT WE GOT A LOT OF HISTORY, UM, CONVERSATIONS DURING THIS TRIP, AND YEAH, IT WAS, WAS REALLY SORT OF AMAZING AND DEVASTATING, AMAZING, UH, THE RESILIENCY OF THE POLISH PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH AFTER THE WAR AND, UM, AND DURING THE WAR.

UH, AND THEN, UH, CHUCK, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I, I THINK I RECALL THAT POLISH BEER IS PRETTY GOOD, , KATHY, UM, PROBABLY NO SURPRISE TO MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR KURT.

UM, ON THE, ON SECTION SIX OF THE LETTER OF INTENT, UH, IT SAYS, THE LETTER OF INTENT HAS BEEN PREPARED IN BOTH POLISH AND ENGLISH, BOTH VERSIONS HAVING E EQUAL LEGAL FORCE.

IN THE EVENT OF ANY DISCREPANCIES IN INTERPRETATION, THE PROVISIONS IN THE POLISH LANGUAGE SHALL PREVAIL.

KURT, UM, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? YES.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST AN INFORMAL, UM, LETTER OF INTENT, UH, NOT BINDING THAT THE INTENT IS THEN FOLLOW UP WITH A, UH, SUBSEQUENT, UH, ACTUAL SISTER CITIES AGREEMENT, IF THAT'S, UH, WHERE BOTH THE SIDES PARTIES DECIDE TO GO.

AND SO, YEAH, NORMALLY THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, BUT IN A LETTER OF INTENT, I'M OKAY WITH.

I DON'T SPEAK ANY POLISH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, IF THERE WAS A CONFLICT OR NOT, AND WE DIDN'T HIRE AN INTERPRETER, UH, TO CONFIRM WHETHER THERE IST OR NOT.

BUT, UH, THEY AS BEEN POINTED OUT, GENERALLY SPEAK ENGLISH PRETTY WELL.

SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY PROBLEMS. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANNA SAY ALSO, I AM REALLY PLEASED TO SEE US MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION OF EMBRACING NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES AS OUR PARTNERS, BECAUSE FROM THESE LANGUAGE IS CULTURE, CULTURE IS LANGUAGE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S HOW YOU REALLY CAN LEARN FROM OTHER WAYS OF BEING, BY HAVING THESE PARTNERSHIPS AND THESE RELATIONSHIPS.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR SEEKING OUT THOSE POTENTIAL AND APPROPRIATE PARTNERS FOR US.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED BY THIS, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA BE GOING TO SLO , BUT I'LL GO.

GO FORTH AND CONQUER , UH, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOUR TEAM, YOUR, YOUR GROUP.

PULL OFF SOME AMAZING WORK, AND IT'S TRULY, TRULY, UH, WONDERFUL.

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THERE YOU GO.

BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND MAYBE SOME FUTURE CITIES, SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO THIS.

SO I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

UH, WE HAVE NO CARDS.

MADAM CLERK? NO MAYOR.

SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

ANY FINAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? OKAY.

VICE MAYOR, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, OH, THERE YOU GO.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SISTER CITY'S LETTER OF INTENT WITH OSLO, POLAND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.

WE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

WE, WE APPRECIATE IT.

WANT BREAK? WHAT'S THAT? I ASKED IF YOU WERE TO GO INTO GS RRC OR IF YOU WANT A BREAK? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE, I THINK WE SHOULD AT SIX O'CLOCK.

UH, WE JUST HAVE THE GSRC.

THAT COULD BE QUITE LENGTHY.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, UH, 20 MINUTE BREAK.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, FOLKS.

, UH, WE'LL BE BACK.

[8.b. AB 3226 Presentation/discussion regarding an update of Greater Sedona Recreation Collaborative's (GSRC) work towards improved management and mitigation of impacts of motorized recreational uses in and around Sedona.]

OKAY, JOE.

ITEM, UH, AB 32 26 PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING AN UPDATE OF THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATIONAL COLLABORATIVE.

GSRC WORKED TOWARDS IMPROVEMENT, IMPROVE MANAGEMENT, AND MITIGATION OF IMPACTS OF MOTORIZED RECREATIONAL USES IN AND AROUND SEDONA.

MARY, NINA.

NINA, I'M SORRY.

I CAN GET MARRIED TOO.

I DON'T KNOW.

SHE'D PREFER .

THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.

YOU KNOW, SHE SITS IN FOR YOU ALL THE TIME, SO, OKAY.

DO I NEED GO FOR IT, NINA, INTRODUCE MYSELF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE SHOULD.

BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU AS POPULAR AS YOU ARE.

UH, SO I'M NINA BARLOW.

I OWN, UH, BARLOW ADVENTURES, WHICH OPERATES AT BARLOW JEEP RENTALS HERE IN TOWN.

I AM PART OF THE WORKING GROUP FOR THE GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE, WHICH WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE TONIGHT.

I'M ALYSSA.

I AM ALYSSA TIKIS.

I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF FRIENDS OF THE FOREST, SEDONA.

I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE GSRC, UM, OVERALL AS A BIG GROUP AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SMALLER WORKING GROUP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE DIVIDED THIS UP INTO, UH, WAIT, WE DID PAPER, SCISSORS, ROCK, AND I GOT ODD NUMBER SLIDES, AND MELISSA GOT EVEN NUMBERED SLIDES.

SO SOMEHOW I GOT STUCK WITH THE FIRST THREE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE EASY THREE.

SO , UM, SO GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE.

THIS IS, UH, OUR UPDATE TO YOU OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ON THIS FOR, UM, TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

TWO AND A HALF YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, UH, AND BASICALLY LAYING A LOT OF GROUNDWORK, UM, FOR, AND WE'VE GOT SOME EXCITING THINGS THAT WE WANNA SHARE.

SO, UH, GREATER SEDONA RECREATION COLLABORATIVE IS, UH, PRI OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO PRESERVE THE NATURAL RESOURCES WHILE ACCOMMODATING, UH, RECREATIONAL USES FOR BOTH OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

AND OF COURSE, THE NUMBER ONE TOPIC.

OH, THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA DO THAT RIGHT HERE.

I CAN DO THAT.

NO, DON'T TOUCH .

UM, OHV IMPACTS WAS THE NUMBER ONE TOPIC THAT WE ARE TAKING ON.

AND, UM, WE HAVE OF COURSE, THE OVERVIEW HERE.

THESE ARE OUR CO-CONVENERS.

UH, SO A LOT OF ENTITIES INVOLVED.

UH, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, GETTING GOING ON THIS PROJECT, OF COURSE, IS THE, THE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL FOOTPRINT OF THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN TELL, BY ALL OF THE CO-CONVENERS INVOLVED A LEARNING CURVE FOR ALL OF US, KIND OF LEARNING VARIOUS ROLES AND INTERESTS AND, AND, UH, OTHER, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS CHALLENGES.

UM, AND OF COURSE, IT'S BEEN A LOT SLOWER THAN WE HAD HOPED, I THINK, THAT ANY OF US WANTED.

BUT, UM, BUT WE'RE FEELING REALLY GOOD ABOUT KIND OF THE, THE FOUNDATION THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING HERE.

WHERE, WHERE ARE WE GOING? OH, AND OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS, UH, IMPLEMENTING SOLUTIONS.

AM I SKIPPING YOUR HEAD? YOUR SLIDE? IMPLEMENTING SOLUTIONS.

UM, THEY, THEY NEED TO BE ENFORCEABLE AND THEY NEED TO BE DEFENSIBLE.

AND IN THE LONG RUN, UM, WE, WE ELIMINATE A LOT OF WORK BY KIND OF DOING OUR HOMEWORK IN ADVANCE, UM, BEFORE THEY GO TO, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC ENTITIES, LIKE THE FOREST SERVICE, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT ONE'S YOUR STILL YEAH,

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OH, POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS ARE NOT IN MY BIG SKILLSET HERE.

IT'S NOT MY STRONG SUIT, BUT SO FUN WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, THESE ARE OUR, UH, OUR WORKING GROUP MEMBERS ARE COMPRISED OF A COURSE OF LOT, LOT OF DIFFERENT INFRA INTERESTS, LOT OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

UM, AND OUR GOAL, OF COURSE, WAS TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER, RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, RANCHERS, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE CAN THINK OF, EVEN LIKE HOT AIR BALLOON COMPANIES, REALLY E EVERYBODY, UM, THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED BY OHV ISSUES.

SO, AS A RECAP OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS IN THE FIRST YEAR OR SO THAT THE ORGANIZATION WAS TOGETHER IN A, A YEAR AGO, THE GSRC PUT OUT A REPORT THAT WAS A NICE 200 PAGES LONG, PROBABLY.

UM, AND I'VE, WE HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN TO ONE SLIDE OF WHAT THE PROPOSED STRATEGIES WERE.

SO TAKING ALL OF THAT, WHAT THE GROUP DID, AND WHAT PART OF THEIR PURPOSE WAS, WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT TYPES OF THINGS CAN THE ORGANIZATION DO FOR THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD, SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP ADDRESS THE OHV ISSUE, RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT THERE ISN'T A SINGLE STRATEGY THAT WOULD WORK.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES ARE, AND I'M NOT GONNA READ THEM OFF OF THE BOARD, 'CAUSE YOU CAN READ, BUT YOU'LL REALIZE, AND AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP THAT IS THERE.

AND NO ONE SINGLE STRATEGY WILL SOLVE WHAT IS THE OHV CHALLENGE.

PART OF IT IS, IS BECAUSE ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S THE CO-CONVENERS OR THE OTHER CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE IN THE SEDONA AREA, UM, AND THE VISITORS, THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MISSIONS, THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT END GOALS.

SO JUST BY THE NATURE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WE HAVE CONFLICT EMBEDDED.

SO THE GSRC DECIDED, AND WHAT WE DID, AND WE CAME UP WITH PROPOSED STRATEGIES, WAS TO COME UP WITH STR PROPOSED ACT, PROPOSED STRATEGIES THAT WE COULD THEN HAVE ACTIONS UNDERNEATH TO TRY AND SOLVE IT.

NONE OF THESE WILL WORK INDIVIDUALLY IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ACTION THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.

EITHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE OR THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING GOING FORWARD.

ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, IT TOUCHES ON MULTIPLE STRATEGIES.

IT'S AT LEAST TWO, IF NOT THREE OR FOUR, OR ALL OF THEM.

THE GENERAL BUCKETS.

SO, YOU KNOW, OF HOW THESE STRATEGIES KIND OF FALL OUT IS, THERE'S, THE CHALLENGES ARE THE RECREATION AND CREATION DEMAND AND DESIRE THAT WE HAVE.

THERE'S THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

AND THEN WE HAVE USER BEHAVIOR, WHICH CANDIDLY, A LOT OF TIMES IS THE HARDEST ONE FOR US TO DEAL WITH.

'CAUSE WELL, IT'S PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA, PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA PEOPLE.

AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE MOST FUN THING TO TRY TO DEAL WITH IS PEOPLE, ARE PEOPLE.

UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO NINA TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF WHAT'S HAPPENED, UM, SINCE THE REPORT CAME OUT A YEAR AGO.

UM, AND A LOT OF THIS YOU GUYS, UH, YOU ALREADY KNOW OF COURSE, BUT, UH, JUST TO RECAP, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING ALONG, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GUIDELINES OF THOSE PROPOSED STRATEGIES FROM THE INITIAL REPORT, UH, CONTINUATION OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE HAVE UNDER OUR BELT, OF COURSE, ARE CONTINUED, UH, RENTAL USER EDUCATION, UM, VARIOUS RESTORATION PROJECTS.

UM, WE HAVE, I DON'T, I, I THINK WE SAT DOWN, WE TRIED TO CALCULATE HOURS AND I THINK WE CAME TO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A, A, A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF 15,000 HOURS THAT WE'VE INVESTED.

UM, AND AGAIN, UM, THAT'S 15,000 HOURS AND THAT'S, UM, NOT COUNTING ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN INVESTMENT, UM, THROUGH ROCK.

WHICH I GUESS I SHOULD MENTION ALSO AS AN ASIDE THAT, UM, ROCK IS NOW AN OFFICIAL, UM, NONPROFIT.

SO WE ARE EXPECTING OUR, OUR FEDERAL APPROVAL BACK, LIKE SERIOUSLY ANY MINUTE NOW.

, I CHECKED IT BEFORE I GOT HERE.

UM, BUT THE, THE ROCK MEMBERS, SO OUR OFFICIAL NAME IS NOW TRAIL PARTNERS AND UM, UH, WE'VE INVESTED IN SPEED SIGNS AND CAMERAS.

INTERN, INTERN STIPENDS, INTERNSHIP, STIPENDS, .

THAT'S OKAY.

SAY THAT WORD RIGHT THERE.

ALRIGHT, .

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, CONSERVATIVELY BETWEEN GSRC WORKING GROUP MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVELY 15,000 HOURS.

UM, AND THAT'S IT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.

IT IS.

UM, AND IT IS, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE ON WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON UNDER THE SURFACE THAT'S CREATED IN THE STRONG FOUNDATION AND WE'RE JUST ABOUT READY TO START PUTTING THE RUBBER TO THE ROAD.

SO WITH SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOU'LL HEAR A LOT IS THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS, UM, DONE BY THE ENTERPRISE TEAM FROM THE US FOREST SERVICE.

YOU CAN GO TO THE

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NEXT SLIDE IF YOU WANT.

UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT HAS HAD GONE ON AND THE WORK WITH IT, UM, IS DRIVING A LOT OF THIS AND SO ARE SOME OTHER ACTIONS.

AND WHAT THE TEAM REALIZED, EVEN WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR SO THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT AND THE THOUSANDS OF HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN FROM A WORK PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT TRULY ALL OF THE STRATEGIES AND THE ACTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.

SO THE GROUP HAS LOOKED AT AND HAD DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND SEEK FUNDING.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE UP ON THE SLIDE RIGHT NOW ARE, THESE ARE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED.

SOME OF THEM ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS AND WE'RE COMING INTO THE MIDDLE OF IT.

OTHER OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY WAITING AS, AS NINA WOULD USE THE TERM SHOVEL.

THEY'RE SHOVEL READY.

UM, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY ADD RESOURCES THAT WILL HELP US TO HAVE NOT ONLY HUMAN RESOURCES, BUT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM ALL OF THIS, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UM, WE HAVE A MASTER WORKSHEET THAT HAS PROBABLY OF ACTION ITEMS THAT FALL ONTO THIS.

IT'S PROBABLY 20 SOME LINE ITEMS LONG.

IT IS $1.6 MILLION IS THE FIRST ASK THAT IS GETTING DIVIDED BETWEEN THE CITY OF SEDONA TRAIL PARTNERS OF ARIZONA, THE NONPROFIT, AND KEEP SEDONA BEAUTIFUL.

AND THAT IS REALLY JUST A FUND PROJECTS THAT ARE UP HERE AND A FEW OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS.

SO THEY INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE BROKEN ARROW, TRAILHEAD REDESIGN AND WHAT SOME OF THAT COST LOOKS LIKE.

UM, IT IS LOOKING AT, UM, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT WE CALL THE EYEBROW EYEBROW ROAD, UM, WHICH IS A DETOUR OFF OF 1 52 C TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

IT'S REHABBING DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

AND THAT WORK HAS HAS STARTED, BUT IT HASN'T QUITE FINISHED.

AND IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE BOTTOM PICTURE ON THERE, THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THE REHAB LOOK WORK CAN LOOK LIKE, THAT WHEN SOME AREAS GET BLOCKED OFF AND THEN TIME IS TAKEN TO ACTUALLY RE-SEED IT, UM, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RIGHT FROM A HYDRO PERSPECTIVE SO THAT WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT RUN, THE RIGHT RUNOFF.

WE ACTUALLY CAN HAVE THE AREAS BE RE-VEGETATED.

BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE RESOURCES THAT ARE THERE.

CERTAINLY NOT WITH THE, THE RESOURCES THAT ARE WITHIN THE GSRC, LET ALONE WHERE THE CO-CONVENERS ARE.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON SECURING FUNDING AND GRANTS.

IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN DONE PRIMARILY THROUGH TREAD LIGHTLY WHO THEN FILTERED MONEY AND THEY FUNDED PROJECTS THAT CAME THROUGH ROCK.

AND THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE THAT WHY THEY CREATED THEIR 5 0 1 C3 IS IT'S BETTER TO ACTUALLY HAVE IT HERE AND THEY CAN HAVE CONTROL OF IT.

AND TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES THAT IS UP THERE THAT PEOPLE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IS THE RAPID RESPONSE AND A COORDINATOR.

SO THE REALIZATION IS THAT WHEN INCURSIONS HAPPEN, IF WE'RE ON A, IF THERE'S A MOTORIZED TRIAL AND SOMEONE IN THEIR UTV WANTS TO GO OFF TRIAL, THEY START A NEW PATH.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND THEM SAY, OH COOL, NEW PATH, LET'S GO SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

AND THEY START GOING.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ROCK GROUP HAS WORKED ON FOR A LONG TIME, AND NOW IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE FORMALIZED, IS HAVING A RAPID RESPONSE TEAM SO THAT THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR ANYONE WHO IS OUT THERE, WHETHER IT IS RENTAL COMPANY USER, WHETHER IT IS ONE OF THE OUTFITTERS, WHETHER IT IS A LOCAL, THEY SEE AN ISSUE THAT IS OUT THERE, THEY'LL HAVE A PLACE TO REPORT IT, WHERE THEN A COORDINATOR WILL ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OH, WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS.

AND THEY CAN DISPATCH SOONER THAN LATER WITH, 'CAUSE IT'LL HAVE APPROVAL AHEAD OF TIME TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THAT INCURSION.

IT COULD BE THINGS LIKE PUTTING BOULDERS UP, PUTTING FENCES UP, AND THEN RECEDING.

BUT THAT IS PART OF WHAT, ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT'S THERE THAT NEEDS FUNDING.

UM, WITH THAT THOUGH, THEN THERE'S MONITORS AND THERE REPORTING AND DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO'S EVER TRIED TO GET A GRANT WITH A NONPROFIT? ONCE YOU HAVE A GRANT, YOU ALSO HAVE TO REPORT ON IT.

SO YOU HAVE TO SHOW HOW YOUR FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED AND WHAT THE SUCCESS RATE HAS BEEN SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO GET MORE FUNDS.

SO THAT IS ALSO PART OF WHAT IT IS, UM, OF LOOKING AT.

SO THOSE ARE, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE UP HERE RIGHT NOW.

UM, A COUPLE OF THEM THAT TO TALK ABOUT.

WE, I THINK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM FROM THE COUNCIL KNOWS ABOUT THE BROKEN ARROW TRAILHEAD REDESIGN, MONITORING VEHICLE USE AND, AND WHAT THAT DOES.

WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A TON OF VOLUME AND A TON OF TRAFFIC OUT THERE, BUT THE QUESTION HAS ALWAYS COME IN IS, WELL, WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC? IS IT THE OUTFITTERS? ONE SECOND.

SURE.

BRIAN.

OH, THANK YOU.

UH, TWO QUESTIONS REAL QUICK ON STUFF YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

SO THE PICTURES IN THE LOWER RIGHT, IS THAT THE DONUT HOLE? YES.

UH, NO, ACTUALLY IS IT, I DON'T SEE THE FENCING THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT SPOT.

I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT SPOT.

'CAUSE THE FENCING ISN'T THERE OR IS IT DONUT HOLE? NO, IT IS DONUT HOLE.

I THINK IT THOUGHT IT WAS DONUT HOLE AND THEN I CAN'T SEE THE FENCING.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPRESSIVE TURNAROUND RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN THE RAPID RESPONSE TEAM COORDINATOR, WHO, WHO, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PAID POSITION STAFFED THROUGH WHOM? IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY THROUGH TRIAL PARTNERS OF ARIZONA.

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IT WOULD STAY WITHIN THAT NONPROFIT IS WHERE THE COORDINATOR WOULD BE.

LISA? THAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU GOT IT.

UM, THE VEHICLE MONITORING, JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT ONE MORE TIME, AND YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN AS WE TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED, IS IT'S BEEN WHAT STARTED MORE THAN A YEAR AGO OF ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CLASSIFY WHAT VEHICLES ARE OUT THERE SO THAT WE KNOW ON ANY GIVEN ROAD, NOT ONLY THE VOLUME COUNT, BECAUSE THERE ARE TRAFFIC COUNTERS OUT THERE THAT ACTUALLY COUNT VEHICLES AS THEY GO BY, BUT WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THEM? AND THAT IS A PROJECT THAT THERE HAPPENS TO BE NINE SPECIFIC ROUTES THAT HAVE BEEN PICKED.

EACH ONE OF THOSE GETS A TWO PEOPLE OUT THERE TWICE A QUARTER FOR EACH OF THEM.

THEY'RE OUT ON A WEDNESDAY, THEY'RE OUT ON A SATURDAY, THEY'RE OUT FOR EIGHT HOURS EACH TIME, AND THEY LITERALLY SIT THERE WITH THE TALLY SHEET AND THEY MARK O-H-V-O-H-V-U-T-V OH PASSENGER VEHICLE OUTFITTER.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT ALL GETS TALLIED.

SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND ACTUALLY MAKE A ALGORITHM TO STATISTICALLY LOOK AT, AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THE COUNTERS ARE AND WHAT VOLUME HAS BEEN THAT WE CAN BREAK DOWN WHAT THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE.

NOT ONLY SO WE KNOW TODAY WHAT TYPES OF DECISIONS COULD BE MADE FOR WHAT ROUTES MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE REROUTED, BUT EVEN MORE SO FOR THE FUTURE AS WE HAVE A BENCHMARK NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT ALL LOOKS LIKE, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, HERE WAS THE SUCCESS OF IT.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT GETS REALLY BORING AND WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS TO SIT OUT THERE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IS THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE USE STUDENTS FROM NAU, UM, AND THEY GET PAID AT STIPEND TO COME OUT AND TO ACTUALLY SIT AND COUNT VEHICLES FOR US.

AND I DON'T THINK WE PAY 'EM ENOUGH, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

UM, , WE HAVE A SIGN INVENTORY THAT'S GOING ON.

YOU KNOW, SIGNS ARE GREAT, BUT WE ALSO GET SIGN POLLUTION.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH IS LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE AREAS, WHAT ARE THE SIGNS? WHAT DO THEY SAY, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO WITH THEM? AND SO IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY MAKE ANY DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT SIGNS WOULD BE BETTER, WE HAVE TO KNOW IT'S OUT THERE FIRST.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MEANT FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEKING FUNDING ON.

I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO GO ON TO OUR NEXT STEPS, MELISSA, BEFORE YES, NINA SPEAKS.

I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PRESENTATION A BREAKDOWN OF THE $1.9 MILLION AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING FROM THE CITY.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST PASSED OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

WELL, FOR THIS, THIS YEAR ACTUALLY THAT WE'RE IN NOW IN JULY.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY MONEY BUDGETED 'CAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, OUR EVIL PLAN IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE, THE FUNNEL FOR THE GRANT, NOT THE, THAT YOU'RE PAYING THE, THE, THAT YOU'RE FUNDING THAT TRAIL, THAT BROKEN ARROW TRAILHEAD.

I GUESS I, WHAT I DIDN'T SAY, AND THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT, AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, IS THE FUNDS ARE GONNA BE REQUESTED FROM ARIZONA STATE PARKS AND TRAILS.

THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CURRENTLY ADMINISTER THE PERMIT PROGRAM WITH THE STICKERS, UM, THAT THE FEES GO TO.

AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS AT ANY POINT IN TIME THAT IS SITTING THERE.

AND YOU CAN HAVE X, YOU CAN HAVE THREE GRANTS OUT.

THREE, TWO OR TWO.

YOU CAN HAVE TWO GRANTS AT A TIME.

AND SO THE ORGANIZATION WE'VE LOOKED AT BREAKING DOWN WHAT COULD THE CITY ASK FOR, WHAT COULD IT BE? AND THAT TENDS TO BE IN THE BROKEN ARROW AREA.

AND WITH THAT TRAIL REDESIGN, TRAILHEAD REDESIGN, BECAUSE IT'S CITY AREA, UM, KSB IS LOOKING AT AND BEAUTIFUL IS LOOKING AT HELPING WITH EYEBROW ROAD AND A PILOT SPEED STUDY PROGRAM, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND.

AND THEN THE OTHER, UM, $850,000 FALLS INTO THE TRAIL PARTNERS AREA.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN.

WE DO HAVE A SPREADSHEET ON IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

HAVE IT IN MY BAG.

YOU YEP.

YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE SENSE.

IT'S COLOR CODED AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE NINA GOES ON? WELL, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, ANNETTE, DO YOU WANT SOMETHING TO ADD? UH, YEAH.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND, UM, VICE MAYOR PLU, UH, TO CLARIFY ABOUT THE BROKEN ARROW TRAILHEAD PROJECT, THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE FOREST SERVICE ON.

AND WHEN YOU APPROVED THE BUDGET FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT THERE IS A CONTINGENCY IN OUR GRANT FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $850,000.

AND THAT IS FOR, UM, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING THE GRANT FROM STATE PARKS, THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO ACCEPT THE FUNDS AND WORK ON THE PROJECT WITH THE FOREST SERVICE.

SO WE ARE, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND, UM, MEETING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AT THE STATE AND PREPARING THE GRANT APPLICATION.

ISN'T THAT THANK YOU PETE.

MELISSA, UH, THANK YOU.

UH, NAU STUDENTS TO DO YOUR TRAIL

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COUNT DATA.

WHAT A WONDERFUL THING THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TASK.

A QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THAT WAS, IS THE DATA YOU'RE COLLECTING GONNA BE SUFFICIENTLY RIGOROUS IN THE RIGHT FORMAT OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR THE FOREST SERVICE TO USE IT? MY RECOLLECTION IS WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE DID SOME DATA COLLECTION AND IT WASN'T ROBUST ENOUGH AND SOME OF THE EFFORTS HAD TO BE REPEATED COUNSELOR YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

AND THAT IS VERY TRUE.

WE HAD ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT TOOK US SO LONG TO GET TO THIS POINT.

THE FOREST SERVICE, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR YOU ALEX, YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

UM, THE ENTERPRISE TEAM WHEN, WHICH IS PART OF THE US FOREST SERVICE, WHEN THEY WERE HERE AND WORKING ON THE PROJECT, THEY ACTUALLY VALIDATED FOR US HOW WE WERE COLLECTING THE DATA AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

AND WE SPENT, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF HOURS, SIMPLIFYING, CLARIFYING AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE WAS COUNTING THE RIGHT THING SO THAT IT WAS INFORMATION THAT IS AS OBJECTIVE AS WE POSSIBLY COULD MAKE IT.

IT IS BEING COLLECTED.

I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO ENTERS ANY OF THE INFORMATION.

SO AS EVERYBODY SENDS STUFF IN AND IT'S PAPER COPIES OR PICTURES OF THINGS, I AM OUR DATA CONTROL POINT.

UM, SO THAT ONLY ONE PERSON IS INTO THE DATABASE TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

UM, AND YES, IT WILL DEFINITELY BE USED.

UM, WE MADE SURE OF THAT EARLY ON SO THAT WE WERE NOT WASTING MORE EFFORTS.

'CAUSE IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU REALIZE YOU DID IT REALLY POORLY, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE STARTED.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALEX.

UM, THE, YEAH, VERY QUICKLY, THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR THE, UH, UH, THE PARKING LOT AND THE TRAIL, IS THAT THE ONE THAT YOU, UH, TALKED WITH US ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO? HASN'T CHANGED YES.

FOR THE, THE BROKEN ARROW TRAIL HEAD? YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THERE WERE NO CHANGES.

RIGHT? I'LL HAVE HARDER ONES FOR YOU LATER.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, .

CONTINUE TO FLIP YOUR PAINT, MELISSA, WHOEVER.

YOU KNOW, SOME, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOME ANALYSIS TO DO, UM, TO, TO START, UM, ROUTE PLANNING TO AGAIN MITIGATE, UH, SOME OF THESE CONFLICTS THAT WE'RE HAVING AND CONFLICTS WITH, UH, USERS AND RESIDENTS AS WELL AS, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

WHERE ARE WE IN THE WORKS? IN THE WORKS? UM, SO OF COURSE APPLYING FOR THIS FIRST ROUND OF GRANT, UH, IT, IT IS OF COURSE, UM, GIVE, IT GIVES US A LOT TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT STOPPING OTHER FUTURE THINGS THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON.

UM, UH, MELISSA MENTIONED, UH, THE CONTINUING, UM, THE MONITORING, UM, DEVELOPING ADDITIONAL REROUTES.

WE'RE EXPLORING DEVELOPING REROUTES TODO, REDUCE, UH, SOCIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE, UM, THE SPEED STUDY.

SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ALEX, BUT WE'VE BEEN PROMISED A PILOT'S SPEED LIMIT.

WE ARE INVESTIGATING PROGRAM LOOKING INTO, AND I'M ADVOCATING FOR US.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, JUST LIKE YOU ALL HAVE AN ATTORNEY TO CONSULT WITH, WE DO AS WELL.

AND SO I'M WAITING ON AN OPINION FROM OUR OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL, UH, ON THAT, A PILOT SPEED LIMIT STUDY ON BOYNTON PASS ROAD 1 52 C.

AND THIS IS NOT, INSTEAD OF, UH, THE EYEBROW ROAD, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO.

SO THESE ARE NOT, UM, MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ACTIVITIES.

THESE ARE BOTH GOING ON.

SO, UM, WE'RE ALSO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE APPRE UH, PARTICIPATED IN THE APPRECIATE ARIZONA CAMPAIGN THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED LAST WINTER.

NOW, UH, WE'RE BEING TOLD NOW IT'S GOING TO BE RELEASED THIS WINTER.

AND THAT IS TO AGAIN, TO FUTURE, UM, IN THE COMING COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE.

AS FAR AS, UH, EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC, AS WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, OUR RENTAL CUSTOMERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CAPTURED, UH, AUDIENCE.

WHEREAS THE GENERAL PUBLIC VISITORS COMING WITH THEIR OWN ATVS ARE, UH, A GROUP THAT WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE TO REACH.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE MANY ACTIONS THAT WILL ASSIST WITH THAT.

UM, THE ENTERPRISE TEAM PRO PROVIDING US THAT PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THE VISITOR CAPACITY WORKSHEETS.

I HAD TO WRITE THAT DOWN FOR SOME REASON.

I'M SORRY, VIVIAN, I STILL CAN'T REMEMBER THE TITLE OF THOSE.

UM, UH, AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON SOME PRIORITIZED AREAS.

SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A, YOU KNOW, AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE'RE DEEP DIVING INTO THIS STUFF.

AND THIS IS WHAT TAKES SO LONG IS, UM, LIKE ON THE SCREEN HERE, I'LL USE MY LITTLE POINTER.

UM, THIS IS THE FOUR ZONES, FOUR OF THE SIX ZONES THAT ARE JUST IN THE RED ROCK RANGER DISTRICT.

THERE ARE TWO MORE ZONES THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP.

AND THE RED ROCK RANGER DISTRICT, OF COURSE BEING JUST ONE SMALL, YOU KNOW, ONE PART OF THE, THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST.

AND THEN IN THOSE FOUR ZONES, UM, IT BREAKS DOWN INTO LIKE THAT UPPER MAP HERE THAT IS JUST PART OF THE WEST SEDONA ZONE.

AND WE'RE TAKING, UH, SOME INDIVIDUAL ROADS OUT OF JUST THAT ZONE.

AND WE'RE DOING, UM,

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SO IT'S A, IT'S A DETAILED PROCESS.

IT'S TIME CONSUMING.

UM, OOPS.

I SHOULD GO TO MY PAGE.

WHERE'S MY NOTES? WHERE'S MY NOTES? SO AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR HOTSPOTS THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THERE.

UM, THE SPEED STUDY.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT PILOT, PILOT PROGRAM.

AND, UM, UH, YEAH, YEAH.

REROUTE.

LEMME SEE WHAT ELSE ON MY NOTES HERE.

I THINK, I MEAN THAT, THAT I COULD BORE YOU.

I COULD GO ON AND ON I'M EXCITED ABOUT EVERY LINE ON THIS MAP.

BUT YEAH.

NINA, IF I COULD GO AHEAD.

DOES THAT INDICATE THEN THAT THERE IS SOME CONVERSATION THOUGHT HAPPENING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE ACTIVITIES LIKE GRAVEL BIKING AND SEPARATING USE AND IS THAT WHAT SOME OF THE, LOOKING AT THE ROUTES OR IS CONSIDERING? SO WE ARE HAPPY TO FORWARD YOU VISITOR CAPACITY WORKSHEETS TO FILL OUT.

IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ROWS YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT GRAVEL BIKING ON, 'CAUSE THAT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A GRAVEL BIKER IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, WORKING GROUP.

SO , I, I, I CAN ADD TO THAT.

UM, IT'S FOCUSED ON MOTORIZED USE.

'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY OVERLAP.

SO GRAVEL BIKING IS NOT A MAIN FOCUS.

THERE'S SOME OVERLAP.

WE TALK ABOUT CAMPING PODS THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG FOREST ROAD 5, 2 5.

WE CAN'T JUST IGNORE THOSE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WORK A VACUUM AND ONLY TALK ABOUT MOTORIZED USE.

AND SO THEY'RE RELATED.

GRAVEL BIKING HASN'T COME UP.

BUT I DO THINK THIS IS A, A PROCESS AND A TOOL THAT COULD BE USED TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE FUTURE, GOING THROUGH ROAD BY ROAD AND CONSIDERING WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR GRAVEL BIKING THERE AND ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE SAME MAP AND THINKING ABOUT OUR ROADS BECAUSE GRAVEL BIKING IS PRESUMABLY NON-MOTORIZED.

WE COULD LOOK AT CLOSED ROADS AND WHAT, WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD BECOME ROUTES IN THE FUTURE.

WELL THERE'S THE WHOLE E GRAVEL BIKING THING THAT'S GROWING JUST AS FAST AS ANY OTHER E SECTION.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO RIDE, UM, ON THE NORTH RIM OF THE GRAND CANYON, THE SWAMP, SOMETHING TRAILED DOWN TO THE NORTH BASS TRAIL HEAD, WHICH WAS A MOTORIZED ROUTE THROUGH THE NATIONAL PARK.

AND GOD, IT WAS AWESOME TO DO THAT.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST KNOW THAT SEDONA WOULD BE ONE OF THE WORLD'S BEST PLACE TO GO GRAVEL BIKING IF WE CAN SEPARATE THESE USES SOMEHOW AND GET THE ATVS AWAY FROM CYCLING.

AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THAT CONFLICT.

HAVE A QUICK .

ALEX, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PMP AND WHAT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT THE PRIORITIES ARE SEDONA OAK CREEK AND WEST SEDONA ZONES? YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO, SO IT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS, SO IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN.

AND I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A METAPHOR FOR WHAT EXACTLY THIS IS.

SO OUR, OUR VISITOR CAPACITY WORKSHEETS, I THINK A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT THEM IS LIKE A PERFORMANCE REVIEW FOR EACH ROAD.

SO OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, GIVE THEM EXPECTATIONS.

OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ARE LAID OUT BY OUR DESIRED CONDITIONS AND WHAT THESE ROADS OFFER, UM, UNDER DIFFERENT RESOURCE PERSPECTIVES, YOU KNOW, FROM A HYDROLOGY PERSPECTIVE, WILDLIFE PERSPECTIVE, RECREATION.

AND IT'S ALL LINED ON OUR FOREST PLAN.

SO ALONG WITH THE PERFORMANCE PLAN AND THAT WE HAVE AS AN AGENCY, AS THE MANAGER, JUST LIKE A SUPERVISOR WOULD HAVE, YOU ALSO GET ALL THIS DISPARATE INFORMATION FROM COWORKERS, FROM PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE INTERACT, PEOPLE THAT THE, THE PERSON INTERACTS WITH AND PEOPLE THEY SUPERVISE.

THAT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO ALL THESE DATA SOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

WE'VE GOT OUR PERMITTED RANCHER, WE'VE GOT OUR GENERAL PUBLIC RECREATIONISTS, WE HAVE THE CITY OF SEDONA AS A PARTNER.

EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO THE VISITOR CAPACITY WORKSHEET GOES THROUGH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT LINES OUT WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE.

AND THEN THROUGH ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS, WE AS A MANAGING AGENCY, ANSWER THEM FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT RESOURCE PERSPECTIVES.

WE USE OUR INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAM WITH THE WILDLIFE HYDRO HYDROLOGIST, UM, ARCHEOLOGISTS, EVERYBODY'S PERSPECTIVES.

AND THEN BY FUNNELING G SRCS INPUT AND REPRESENTING KIND OF THE LARGER COMMUNITY, MANY DIFFERENT USERS, THEY'RE GONNA REVIEW THAT, SEE WHAT WE MISSED.

UM, WE'LL ALSO MAKE SURE THE DATA THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANTLY COLLECTED, THAT'S OBJECTIVE AND, AND HAS THE TYPE OF USE.

AND WE CAN PREDICT OR, OR ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY QUALITY ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS ON A GIVEN ROAD.

THAT'S ALL GONNA GET PUT IN THERE.

AND THEN THE NEXT STEP, ONCE THOSE ARE FILLED OUT FOR EACH ROAD, IS PUTTING THAT INTO A SPATIAL PRODUCT THAT'S EASIER TO IDENTIFY AREAS, HOTSPOTS THAT REALLY NEED ATTENTION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AREAS LIKE FOREST ROAD 5, 2, 5, WE HAVE A LOT OF MIXED USE, A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

I IMAGINE THAT'S GONNA BE ONE THAT KIND OF POPS OUT AS LIKE WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER DOING STUFF THERE.

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UM, AND, AND THAT MAP WILL HELP US THINK ABOUT AND CONSIDER REROUTES ALTERNATIVE ROUTES, UM, OTHER ACTIONS.

SO THERE, THERE'S THINGS SUCH AS LIKE JUST ENGINEERING CHALLENGES.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE A, AN AREA WHERE WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF EROSION, A REROUTE COULD BE THE SOLUTION OR JUST FORTIFYING THAT ROAD AND HAVING DIFFERENT DRAINAGE.

SO THAT'S THE BIG STEP WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.

IT IS ARDUOUS AND LONG, BUT IT WILL BE VERY DEFENSIBLE AND IN AS WE GO INTO THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY, UH, NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT PLANNING PROCESS AND HAVE OUR PROPOSED ACTION, IT'S GOT THIS REALLY RIGOROUS BASIS.

UM, AND WE WOULD EXPECT A LOT OF SUPPORT HOPEFULLY AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.

AND IT WILL GO IN A MUCH FASTER FASHION THAN IT WOULD OTHERWISE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY THE, THE GIST OF IT IS, IS WE'RE USING THIS TO MARRY UP ONCE WE HAVE ALL THOSE ERRORS IDENTIFIED, MARRY UP WITH ALL THOSE SUGGESTED ACTIONS THAT WERE IN THE REPORT FROM LAST MARCH FROM GSRC AND PUT THOSE INTO PROPOSED ACTIONS AND START ACTUALLY PUTTING THINGS ON THE GROUND.

SO THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL, THE PATH THAT THE PMP PUSHES US TOWARD.

SO HAS THE PLAN BEEN COMPLETED? UH, YES.

IT'S BEEN DRAFTED.

THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS MOVING PARTS.

IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, SO IT'S NOT AS IF WE FINALIZE IT AND WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW US A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT YES.

AND WE, WE CAN SHARE THAT IF YOU LIKE.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

I'LL, I'LL ADD THAT THE, UM, UH, THE, THE PROCESSES THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, AGAIN, ALTHOUGH THEY SEEM ARDUOUS AND SLOW, IT'S UM, UH, IT MADE LIKE THE BROKEN ARROW TRAIL HAD THAT WHOLE PROCESS ONCE IT, IT WENT REALLY FAST BY FOREST SERVICE STANDARDS BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THIS SUPPORT, WE HAD ALL OF THE, UM, THE, THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT.

AND A LOT OF YOU WERE OUT THERE THAT DAY, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THESE VISITOR CAPACITOR WORKSHEETS, THEY'RE NOT A ONE-TIME TOOL.

THIS IS A TOOL THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED THAT WE CAN USE, UM, GOING FORWARD INDEFINITELY.

SO WHEN WE HIT, IF WE HIT TRIGGER POINTS AND NEED TO REVIEW SOME AREAS IN FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO ON? I THINK YOU'RE GOOD, MELISSA.

AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT? YES.

SO NEXT STEPS, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE ALREADY.

SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE FINISHING SEPTEMBER IS THE LAST MONTH THAT WE ARE COUNTING VEHICLES.

UM, WHAT A YEAR? YEAH, IT'S ONE FULL YEAR OF DOING THAT.

AND WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER THERE WHO'VE BEEN COUNTING.

SO THEY WE'RE GONNA BE VERY EXCITED TOO.

AND WE'RE DONE.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO COME UP AND TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT OBJECTIVE DATA, UM, TO HELP WITH THE FOUNDATION FOR ANY OF THE PROCESSES THAT GO ON.

ONE OF THOSE BEING NEPA.

UM, WE KNOW THAT CAN BE A BIG ONE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUING TO INCREASE ENFORCEMENT.

SO THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD AND YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE SECURED GRANTS TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL OHV ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HUGE AND IS NEEDED AND IT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED GOING FORWARD.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE GSRC IS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO, UM, AND BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT.

UM, ALEX ALREADY TOUCHED ON AND DID A GREAT JOB THAT I DON'T HAVE TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THE VISITOR CAPACITY WORKSHEETS 'CAUSE THAT IS A HUGE PROCESS.

UM, AND I, UH, THINK NINA ALSO SAID IT, WHICH IS IT'S A FOUNDATION LIKE A LOT OF THINGS THAT IT'S ALSO GONNA GIVE US A BASE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE THAT WE CAN USE TO LOOK TO SEE HOW THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED, HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED, AND AGAIN, PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE WHOLE DISTRICT THAT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ROUTES THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT ARE ALL BEING LOOKED AT WITH THE EXACT SAME CRITERIA IN MIND, WHICH HASN'T HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ANECDOTAL BY ONE PERSON BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY LIVE RIGHT THERE.

UM, IT'S A MUCH MORE BROAD PERSPECTIVE.

SO THAT ALSO GOES IN WITH THE CONTINUUM OF THE PMP IMPLEMENTATION.

AND ALEX ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE FACT THAT THINGS WILL GET SPATIALLY MAPPED AND TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHERS SELECTED PROJECTS AND IDEAS THAT CAME FROM THE GSRC.

WHAT ELSE CAN BE IMPLEMENTED? THE CONCEPT WITH A LOT OF THIS ALWAYS IS THAT THINGS NEED TO BE DEFENSIBLE, UM, DECISIONS GOING IN THAT THEY CAN BE ENFORCED.

SO IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP US TO DO SOMETHING IF IT CAN'T BE ENFORCED.

UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU NO PUT IN A SPEED LIMIT SOMEWHERE, BUT NO ONE EVER CHECKS DOESN'T REALLY MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

UM, WE REALLY LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IS IT'S BUILDING THE FOUNDATION FOR ALL THE FUTURE ACTIONS, UM, THAT ARE OUT THERE.

THE LAST ITEM THAT'S UP THERE IS THOSE, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK, I DON'T KNOW A TON ABOUT IT, BUT IS OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING AN 89 A CROSSING IN A REROUTE.

UM, AND THAT WOULD JUST ADD ONE MORE COMPLEX ORGANIZATION, MEANING ADOT TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH.

SO, UM, IT JUST TAKES IT AS TO ANOTHER AREA THAT WOULD BE ONE MORE ISSUE TO, UM, HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS.

BUT IT'S ANOTHER STAKEHOLDER AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.

UM, AND IT CAN VERY MUCH IMPACT THE FUTURE AND WHAT THE ROUTES LOOK LIKE FOR A, UM, OHE PERSPECTIVE IS, IS THIS

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YEP, IT IS.

SO MELISSA, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INCREASED ENFORCEMENT, I KNOW I WAS THERE WHEN, UH, SHERIFF ROSE WAS RECEIVED THIS GRANT, OR AT LEAST TO GO AHEAD, UH, AT ONE OF THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.

UH, IS THAT IN PLACE YET? HAS HE RECEIVED THE MONEY? HAS HE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT MANPOWER? MY UNDERSTANDING IS YES.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING DIFFERENT TO THAT, THAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS SPENT TIME? I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE.

YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW PART OF THAT GRANT WAS TO PURCHASE AN OHV, WHICH I THINK WAS SUCCESSFUL AND THEN TO HIRE OTHER OFFICERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY HIRED OR NOT.

JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO FIND OUT THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD.

UH, YES.

SORRY, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE ONES.

CITY OF COTTONWOOD HAS SUCCESSFULLY PURCHASED THEIR OHV AND HAS OFFICERS THAT PATROL IN OHV, BUT THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN TO 5 2 5.

AND THEY ARE? YEAH, YEAH.

OH, GOOD.

SURPRISINGLY.

YEAH, I HAD TALKED TO THEM AND I WAS AS SURPRISED AS YOU ARE.

I'M SHOCKED.

IS IT, UH, STEVE WALDEN? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT HIS NAME IS.

OFFICER, I DON'T KNOW.

I I HAVE TO PULL THAT UP.

AND WE HAVE, UM, THE, UH, THE OFFICER THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT PROGRAM FOR COTTONWOOD PD HAS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, COTTONWOOD IS EMBRACED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY IS LARGER THAN JUST THEIR CITY LIMITS.

AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT ALL OF THIS RECREATION THAT'S GOING ON ADJACENT TO THEIR CITY LIMITS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY PURSUED A GRANT TO IMPLEMENT THEIR OWN, UH, OHV ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE.

GOTTA HIT YOUR, I GOTTA HIT MY ARROW.

OH, WEIGHT LIMITS.

SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY GSRC HAS NOT REALLY COME TO ANY KIND OF A CONSENSUS OR PRO PROPOSED STRATEGY IN, WITH REGARD TO WEIGHT LIMITS.

AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS A, A STATE, UH, A STATE ISSUE.

UM, WHAT IT'S COME DOWN TO, UH, WHICH, UH, FOR ME, SPEAKING FOR ME PERSONALLY FROM, UM, SEVERAL SOURCES IS THAT, UH, WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS, UM, IF AN OHV, UH, I CAN GO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO REGISTER PRETTY MUCH ANY VEHICLE, ANYTHING, UH, IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, IF IT'S GOT HEADLIGHTS AND TURN SIGNALS AND , WELL TURN SIGNALS, SIGNALS IS A LITTLE IFFY.

WELL, BUT THE, THE, THE WEIGHT, THE WEIGHT LIMIT, WHAT HAPPENS IS A VEHICLE IS, UH, IS OVER THAT CURRENT 2,500 POUND WEIGHT LIMIT, THEN THEY BECOME CLASSIFIED AS AN AUTOMOBILE.

AND, UH, AND LIKE FOR MY, MY JEEP IS CLEARLY AN AUTOMOBILE, IF I COULD TURN MY JEEPS DOWN TO UNDER 2,500 POUNDS, I COULD REGISTER THEM AS OHVS FOR $25 A YEAR.

INSTEAD, I GET TO PAY ABOUT $1,200 A YEAR AS AN AUTOMOBILE.

I HEAR YOU.

SO IT BOILS DOWN THE MONEY IS ALL, IT'S, SO THAT'S KIND OF A DEAD ISSUE THERE.

ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOOD THERE.

GOOD.

SO THIS IS THE HOT BUTTON ONE.

UM, AND THAT'S PER ON MELISSA, SORRY, QUESTION.

I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT.

BRIAN, I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PRIOR PAGE? YEP.

UM, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY POLARIS, YOU'VE GOT THEM ON THE, THE GRAPHIC THERE.

THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THE HIGHER WEIGHT LIMIT.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH POLARIS? YOU KNOW, THEY WERE TALKING TO THE CITY TWO YEARS AGO.

WE REALLY HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM MUCH SINCE THEN.

SO ARE THEY STILL A ACTIVE PART OF TREAD LIGHTLY? DO THEY SUPPORT ROCK AND WHAT YOU'RE NOW RENAMING THAT, LIKE WHERE ARE THEY AT IN ALL THIS? UM, SO THE, YOU KNOW, POLARIS ADVENTURES, THE CONTRACTED OUTFITTER, UH, IN, IN SEDONA IS, UH, SEDONA A TV.

AND THEY ARE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF ROCK AND ARIZONA TRAIL PARTNERS.

UM, THE, UH, UH, POLARIS, UH, THEMSELVES IS VERY ACTIVE WITH TREAD LIGHTLY MEASURES, YOU KNOW, SO ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

UM, AND, UH, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THEY HAD ACTUALLY CREATED, THEY'D SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND A LOT OF TIME IN EFFORT, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO, UM, DEVELOP A QUIETER MUFFLER, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SEDONA RENTAL FLEETS.

UM, BECAUSE PRIVATE OWNERS LIKE LOUDER AND FASTER, AND OF COURSE THE RENTAL COMPANIES WE LIKE QUIETER AND SLOWER.

UM, BUT THEN WHEN IT CAME THROUGH, UH, THE CITY PROPOSING TO JUST FLAT OUT BAN OH FEES, THEY ELIMINATED THAT PROGRAM.

SO, AND THEY HAVEN'T, UH, EXPRESSED ANY FURTHER INTEREST IN PURSUING THAT AT THIS TIME.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO TO BE TOLD VICE MAYOR, I JUST WANNA REPEAT BACK, SO I HEARD THIS CLEARLY THEY'VE ABANDONED THE PROGRAM TO BE QUIETER YEAH.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO SAY THAT, UH, POLARIS AT THE STATE LEVEL HAS BEEN STILL VERY AGGRESSIVELY, UH, PUSHING FOR THE 2000 POUND ADDITIONAL LIMITS FOR THE ELECTRIC, UH, O FEES.

AND FOR THE SECOND TIME THE STATE LEGISLATURE DID KNOCK IT DOWN.

SO, UH,

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TO HAVE QUIETER MUFFLER.

SO WHEN THEY CAME AND SHOWED US THAT VEHICLE WITH THE QUIET MUFFLER, RIGHT.

AND THEY DID THAT BECAUSE WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS, UH, BECAUSE THEN THEY REFOCUSED THEIR EFFORTS TO JUST BEING ABLE TO STAY IN SEDONA AND INSTEAD OF BEING BANNED FROM DRIVING ON CITY STREETS.

SO THAT WAS THE, THE, UH, PARTNERSHIP.

THAT, THAT WAS THE, UH, THAT THAT WAS THE, UH, THE RESULT WAS, WELL IF THEY'RE JUST GONNA BAN US ALL TOGETHER FROM DRIVING ON CITY STREETS, THEN WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA PURSUE FUNDING THIS PROGRAM ANY FURTHER.

SO RIGHT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT .

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO, AND WE HAVEN'T, THE ONLY PLACE WE'VE DONE ANY KIND OF RESTRICTION WAS SPEED RESTRICTION DOWN ON UH, MORGAN ROAD AND WE HAVEN'T BANNED THEM.

SO WE ARE THOSE GOOD PARTNERS AND I CAN'T, DON'T EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER FOR THEM BECAUSE IT, I LIKE JEEPS MUCH BETTER.

ME TOO.

BUT THAT'S , UH, THAT'S INTERESTING.

I THINK, YEAH, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD REVISIT THAT.

IT WOULD ALSO BE NICE IF THEY YEAH.

UH, POLARIS, SINCE THEY HAVE OUR CELL NUMBERS, OR AT LEAST OUR, YOU KNOW, MINE RIGHT.

THAT THEY WOULD CONTACT US AND BE TRANSPARENT WITH THAT.

AND NOT A WORD.

IT'S FIRST WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THAT.

SO I THINK, UM, I THINK THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN IS OF COURSE IS IS THAT THE, THE DEMAND FOR THE, THE QUIETER MUFFLERS NEEDS TO BE MORE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PURSUE MORE THROUGH A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION LIKE TREAD LIGHTLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THROUGH THOSE PARTNERS I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR LITTLE ONE, ONE CITY, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT WOULD WANT THAT.

BUT I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND MAYBE GSRC ISN'T THE, SOME OF US ARE ON BOARDS OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT SHOULD, SHOULD BE, UH, SPEARHEADING THAT, THAT NATIONAL LEVEL CAMPAIGN.

BECAUSE IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, I KNOW TELLURIDE, COLORADO AND MOAB, UTAH, AND A LOT OF PLACES THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE QUIETER MUFFLERS ON MACHINES TOO.

SO THAT'S, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY MOVE ON? OKAY, GO AHEAD NINA.

SO I KNOW ONE OF THE HOT BUTTON AREAS HAS BEEN PERMITS.

UM, THE PICTURE UP THERE IS ACTUALLY THE OHV STICKER THAT GOES, IT'S THE $25 STICKER.

UM, THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER.

AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THAT, UM, THE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE ASKING FOR, FOR FUNDING, UM, EXCUSE ME, WHICH WILL BE UP TO $1.6 MILLION FOR THE INITIAL ASK FOR RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THOUGH THAT, UM, THEY PUT IN PLACE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR WAS A BRAND NEW EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT IN ORDER TO GET YOUR STICKER, YOU HAD TO TAKE AN ONLINE COURSE AND THEN PASS A TEST.

SO FAR TO DATE, 80,000 PEOPLE HAVE COMPLETED THAT ONLINE TEST SUCCESSFULLY.

UM, ARIZONA PARKS AND TRAIL HAS SAID THAT IT'LL TAKE ANOTHER YEAR PROBABLY TO KNOW THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS.

AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA BE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE DIFFERENT AREAS BECAUSE OF A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT USER BEHAVIOR.

SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN AN IMPACT YET, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL HAPPEN.

UM, BUT REALLY THAT'S THE, SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

BUT I KNOW THE TALK HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT PERMITS AND ARE WE PUTTING IN AND IS THE RECOMMENDATION, 'CAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE PROPOSED STRATEGIES WAS TO PUT IN A PERMIT SYSTEM.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE AND IT IS STILL EVERYONE'S INTEREST.

AND WHILE PERMITS ARE NOT PART OF THE IMMEDIATE PLAN, THERE IS NOTHING IN ANY OF THE ACTIONS IN THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON THAT IS GONNA PRECLUDE THE ABILITY TO PUT IN A PERMIT SYSTEM ANYWHERE WITHIN ANY OF OUR ZONES.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING ON THAT HAVE EMBEDDED IN THEM ELEMENTS THAT WOULD HELP WITH A PERMITTING SYSTEM.

SPECIFICALLY, I CAN THINK OF THE BROKEN ARROW TRAILHEAD REDESIGN HAS GATES AT IT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH A PERMIT SYSTEM ONE INTO PLACE.

SO IT'S A REALLY CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC.

UM, I THINK THE FOREST SERVICES, THEY'RE GOING OVER, UM, THE AREAS AND LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY UNDER THE FOREST PLAN GUIDANCE, THEY'LL BE MAKING DETERMINATIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO AND WHAT FUTURE STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN AND IF A PERMANENT SYSTEM COMES UP OR NOT.

AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF ME HAVING ALEX SITTING RIGHT HERE BECAUSE ANY QUESTIONS THAT REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE PERMITTING SYSTEM, I THINK I'M GONNA HAND OVER TO HIM.

'CAUSE HE CAN ANSWER BETTER THAN I CAN.

DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? BETTER BUT NOT NECESSARILY.

GREAT .

I SAY IF CAN ADD, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF I CAN ADD, UM, THAT ONCE AGAIN THOUGH, EVERY, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT MELISSA SAID, IT WAS, ONCE AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IF ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO BEFORE IMPLEMENTING A PERMIT SYSTEM ANYWAYS, SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE BOXES CHECKED.

'CAUSE THE PERMIT SYSTEM IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LIST AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUMP STRAIGHT TO PERMIT.

THAT IT'S PROBABLY JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE GET THERE OR NOT, PERSONALLY, IN MY EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC LAND THROUGHOUT THE WEST IS

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SO THE CONTROVERSY ISN'T IF IT'S WHEN, BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

SINCE THE, UH, TRAINING CLASS HAS GONE INTO, UH, WORKS, UH, WHICH I THINK WAS PUSHED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, HAVE YOU SEEN ANY REDUCTION OF ACCIDENTS IN THE FOREST? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND, AND REALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COUNTY WHO RESPONDS TO THOSE EMERGENCY INCIDENTS.

SO I'M HAPPY TO CONNECT WITH THEM AND GET YOU A BETTER CURIOUS RESPONSE.

I KNOW OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, FROM 2021 I THINK IT IS, TO 2024, THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS HAS GONE DOWN.

RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T, CLEARLY THAT'S A TREND THAT YOU CAN'T, UH, ATTRIBUTE TO THE EDUCATION THAT JUST HAPPENED A YEAR AGO, BUT THE TREND WAS ALREADY GOING DOWN.

HOPEFULLY THAT HELPED.

SO I CAN, I CAN ASK THE COUNTY ABOUT INCIDENTS AND I, I HATE TO PICK ON ONE PARTICULAR INCIDENT, BUT THE MOST RECENT THAT I'VE HEARD WAS, UH, A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD HIS GRANDCHILDREN IN THE, IN THE OHV AND I DUNNO IF THEY WERE THE YOUNGEST ONE, WAS NOT IN THE CAR SEAT AND KILLED HIS GRANDSON.

FELL OUT, THEY ROLLED OVER, WHATEVER IT WAS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE ISOLATED INCIDENT WITH HOW MANY DID YOU SAY PEOPLE TOOK THE CLASS? 80,000 ACCORDING TO WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE IS MINUSCULE, BUT IT'S STILL A LIFE THAT I WOULD JUST, AND I LOOKED CLOSELY, I COULDN'T FIND IT.

IT WAS ACTUAL RENTAL, WHICH MADE ME FEEL GOOD THAT THE RENTAL COMPANIES, UH, ARE DOING THEIR JOB.

IT'S MORE THE PRIVATELY OWNED ONES.

AND YOU KNOW, AFTER MEETING WITH, UH, THE FOUR COMPANIES HERE IN SEDONA, I WAS REALLY CONVINCED THAT IT'S, THE PROBLEM IS NOT AS MUCH THE RENTAL COMPANIES.

THE PROBLEM REALLY IS A PRIVATELY OWNED.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT.

SO, UH, THAT EDUCATION PROGRAM IS ALSO ONLY REQUIRED FOR THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE.

NOW I UNDERSTAND.

AND THIS IS, AND WE'RE HOPING AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS OF THE, THIS PILOT PROGRAM THAT THEN WE CAN INCLUDE ALL, ALL USERS.

IF I COULD PLEASE ADD ONTO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME LOCAL DATA SOURCES.

I'M WONDERING, DAN, MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

WELL, DAN, HE COULD, WE HAVE RENTAL AGENCIES IN TOWN.

ARE THEY RETRIEVING AS MANY ROLLED OVER DAMAGE VEHICLES? IS IT GOING UP DOWN STABLE? DO WE KNOW THERE IS LOCAL DATA THAT WE COULD BE SORT OF PULLING HERE? DO WE ASK DAN? YEAH, DAN, YOU WANNA COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE CONNECTED WITH ALL THE OTHER THREE COMPANIES ANYWAY, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

DAN KALER, UH, CITY OF CLARKDALE, OWNER OF OUTBACK A TV IS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

AS FAR AS INCIDENTS OR ROLLOVERS, UM, I BELIEVE OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN STATISTICALLY.

I TRACK THEM.

UM, THIS SPRING WAS PROBABLY THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ANY KIND OF INCIDENTS, ACCIDENTS, ROLLOVERS, UM, AND IT'S PRIMARILY DUE, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, JUST MY COMPANY.

UM, WE EDUCATE THEM AND WE, WE JUST DRILL IT INTO THEIR HEAD, HEY, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGHT SCENE ADVENTURE.

YOU DON'T GO OUT, YOU DON'T RACE, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, INTERACT WITH OTHER CARS OR DO ANYTHING.

AND IT SEEMS TO REALLY DRIVE HOME.

UM, WE ALSO, WE ALSO KEEP A DEPOSIT.

SO IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT, THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED TOO.

UM, I THINK WITH THE EDUCATION AND THE DEPOSIT THAT REALLY DETERS ANY BAD BEHAVIOR FOR 98% OF THEM STILL 2%.

UM, DOES THAT HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION? IT IT, IT, IT DOES.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M WONDERING ADDITIONALLY, IF VERDE VALLEY SEARCH AND RESCUE IS PART OF THE TEAM, DO WE, NO, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, DO WE HEAR DATA FROM THEM ABOUT HOW OFTEN THEY'RE GETTING OUT THERE? THEY DON'T GET OUT FOR THIS.

I'VE NEVER HEARD THEM.

THEY COULD, I DON'T, BUT I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE ORGANIZATION.

THEY, THEY JUST TOUCH FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOST.

OR INJURED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN JUST A ADDITIONAL QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU, ALEX.

UH, I THINK I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF OPPOSING PIECES OF DATA.

SO THE PLAN FOR THE BROKEN ARROW PARKING LOT, THANK YOU.

DAN GATES IN OR NOT AS PART OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, THE DESIGN INCLUDES LOCATIONS FOR TWO GATES, ONE AT THE FRONT, WHICH IS REALLY FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE CLOSURE.

SO FOR INSTANCE, WE GET, WE GET TO STAGE THREE FIRE RESTRICTIONS PREVENTS ANYBODY FROM GOING IN THE TRAIL HEAD ANYWHERE.

THE DESIGN ALSO INCLUDES A GATE AT THE BACK END OF THE TRAIL HEAD.

THAT WOULD BE IN INCLUDED IF WE, IF AND WHEN WE GET TO A PERMIT SYSTEM.

SO THAT IS INCLUDING IN THE DESIGN.

SO IT'LL BE AUTHORIZED TO BE PUT IN.

WE WOULD NOT ACTUALLY PURCHASE AND PLACE A GATE UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT THAT WE THINK A PERMIT SYSTEM IS JUSTIFIED AND HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT IT'LL BE THERE READY TO GO IF AND WHEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO WE STREAMLINE THE PROCESS OF PUTTING IN THAT GATE IN THE FUTURE STATE.

WELL, YOU'RE ALSO, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

SO WE'LL FIELD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AND IF WE CAN'T ANSWER THEM NOW, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THEM.

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WELL, WE'LL FINISH UP THE QUESTIONS HERE AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC.

I'D LIKE YOU TO HANG OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, VICE MAYOR ALEX, HOW DID YOU DO IN THE, THE BUDGET FOR, FOR SERVICE AND FOR, SHE HAD MORE HAIR, BUT FOR THE BUDGET ? UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER.

YOU MEAN THE FY 25 BUDGET OR THE PROPOSED BUDGET? NO, BUT WHEN THAT JUST PASSED.

OH, SO THE RECONCILIATION MM-HMM .

BILL.

UM, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT AFFECT THE FOREST SERVICE.

UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I, I KNOW THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT FIRE AND FIRE AGENCIES.

UH, I CAN'T SAY I'M AN EXPERT ON RECENTLY PASSED LEGISLATION.

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CHANGES COMING.

I THINK, UH, WHETHER IT'S FROM THAT BILL OR FROM THE LEADERSHIP CHANGES.

UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE SPECIFICS FOR YOU.

I CAN LOOK INTO IT.

I, I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF EMAILS RECENTLY THAT HAD SOME TALK, NOT TALKING POINTS, BUT BULLET POINT SUMMARIES THAT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SKIM.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION WRONG, BUT I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY HOW IT AFFECTS THE FOREST SERVICE.

THANK YOU, PETE.

YEAH, ONE MORE.

ALEX, YOU WE'RE IN HERE TALKING TO US BEFORE ABOUT FIRE BREAK ACTIVITY, THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

AND IS THAT COUPLED IN ANY WAY TO TRAILS AND, AND WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE FIREBREAK ACTIVITY? IT IS NOT COUPLED TO TRAILS AT THIS POINT.

SO, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FIRE RISK TO COMMUNITIES ON THE RED ROCK RANGER DISTRICT, THE AREAS THAT ARE MOST AT RISK, UM, ARE OAK CREEK CANYON, WHICH WE HAVE SOME HISTORIC TREATMENTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY REVISITING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS GROW BACK, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TREAT THOSE AREAS AGAIN AND, AND HAVE THAT READY TO WORK ON IF AND WHEN WE DO HAVE AN INCIDENT, THE AREAS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING NEW TREATMENTS IN, PROBABLY START WITH THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE A PREDOMINANT WIND COMES FROM THE SOUTHWEST TYPICALLY.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WE'RE STILL FIGURING OUT, BUT SOME SORT OF FUEL BREAK, WHETHER IT'S, UH, A LINE THAT'S JUST MINERAL SOIL OR WHETHER IT'S MORE LIKE A SHADED FUEL BREAK, WHICH IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S LESS NOTICEABLE ON THE LANDSCAPE, STILL HAS VEGETATION, UM, BUT GIVES FIREFIGHTERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK OFF A LINE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW.

UM, I THINK THAT QUESTION'S GONNA COME UP, RIGHT? LIKE, THIS IS A LINEAR CORRIDOR, COULD WE PUT A TRAIL HERE? AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS, RIGHT? LIKE PRO IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WHERE SOMEBODY CAN WALK AROUND THE VILLAGE, WALK THEIR DOG, RIDE THEIR BIKE, AND HAVE A CONNECTION REALLY THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.

CON FOLKS AREN'T REALLY GONNA APPRECIATE, I THINK, UH, HAVING TRAFFIC NEAR THEIR BACKYARD.

UM, SO THERE'S SOME TRADE-OFFS TO BE MADE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN MIND AND, AND REALLY THERE, THERE'S VISUAL TRADE OFFS AS WELL.

SO IT, WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP.

WE'RE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THAT YET.

HAVE THOUSANDS OF OTHER RESIDENTS AND MILLIONS OF VISITORS DENIED DIFFERENT FORMS OF ACCESS TO THEIR OWN PUBLIC LANDS BECAUSE THAT HANDFUL OF RESIDENTS DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE WHAT BELONGS TO EVERYONE.

ON THE, ON THE PRO SIDE, I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A TRAIL MIGHT HELP THAT REGROWTH ISSUE.

LET'S GO TO THE PUBLIC, UH, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

UH, TIM PERRY, UH, TO THE PODIUM.

ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GRAB A CARD.

UH, OTHERWISE TIM WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER.

TIM, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS TIM PERRY AND I LIVE IN SEDONA.

YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, I WENT TO GO LOOK UP THE GSRC IN THE CITY'S INDEX EARLIER, AND IT, UH, REDIRECTED ME TO ASTROTURFING ONE OF THE CITY'S TWO MAIN FRONTS.

FOR THE OTHER INSTANCE, OF COURSE, BEING THAT OLD HAG, THE HOUSING ADVISORY GROUP, THIS GROUP WAS SET UP FOR ONE PRIMARY PURPOSE TO CREATE THE APPEARANCE OF A JUSTIFICATION FOR MORE NEW OHV RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO FURTHER INTERFERE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM TO RECREATE.

AS WE PLEASE.

IT GIVES AN OFFICIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL TO A HANDFUL OF RESIDENTS IN A HANDFUL OF NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WHO THINK THAT, UH, THEIR WHINING NEEDS TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE VOLUME AT THE CITY LEVEL.

IT'S A SUPPLEMENT TO DONATING TO THE MAYOR'S REELECTION CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS WHAT THEY USUALLY DO.

BUT IT ALSO IS YET ANOTHER CITY INDULGENCE OF THE PSEUDOSCIENTIFIC, A GAIA HYPOTHESIS THAT THE LAND IS SOMEHOW ALIVE AND NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED FROM HUMANS.

HUMANS FIRST LAND LAST.

WE MANAGE THE LAND FOR OUR OWN USES.

WE DO NOT INDULGE IN SOFT HEADED SUPERSTITIONS THAT THE LAND IS SOMEHOW AN ORGANISM THAT REQUIRES PROTECTION.

THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING HERE, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST OFFENSIVE PART OF THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL FOR MORRO HV RESTRICTIONS, IS THAT IT IS AT ITS CORE A PROPOSAL TO INSTITUTIONALIZE DISCRIMINATION TO THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE AT THE CITY LEVEL.

WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE BASICALLY THE RESIDENTS OF THREE TO FIVE STREETS WANT TO

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WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THIS SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AND IT IS THE SAME SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO TURN UP, INEVITABLY IT'S NOT ANY KIND OF MASS MOVEMENT HERE, ARE ASKING THE CITY TO PUT THEIR INTERESTS AHEAD OF TENS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OTHERS EVERY YEAR TO DENY THEM THE FREEDOM AND JOY OF ACCESSING THEIR PUBLIC LANDS.

WE ARE WAY PAST THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW.

AND WE ARE COMPLETELY INTO THE MINOR WHIMS OF THE FEW OUTWEIGH THE MAJOR NEEDS OF THE MANY.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE THAT NEEDS ADDRESSING.

THERE IS NO OHV ISSUE.

OHVS ARE NOT DAMAGING THE LAND.

AND IF THEY WERE, IT WOULD BE IRRELEVANT.

THIS IS PRIMARILY THE RESULT OF A LOT OF PARANOID WHINING BY A BUNCH OF CITY SLICKERS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HOW LIFE IN THE RURAL WEST REALLY WORKS.

AND WHICH THOSE OF US WHO GREW UP IN THE RURAL WEST FIND INCREDIBLY ANNOYING.

THE CITY COUNCIL AT ANY REGARD FOR RURAL AND WESTERN VALUES, IT WOULD ABOLISH THIS KANGO ON THE SPOT.

WELL, OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND, UM, LET'S HAVE COMMENTS FROM ADE.

ANY COMMENTS AT ALL? MELISSA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR NOT? APPARENTLY I'M SUPPOSED TO.

NO, IT'S UP TO YOU.

UM, I HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW HOW MUCH HARD WORK HAS GONE INTO ALL OF THIS.

AND, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND THE ENERGY TO BE OUT THERE, UM, COUNTING VEHICLES.

UM, I KNOW HOW MUCH FUN THAT IS IN THE SUN WHEN IT'S REALLY HOT OR WHEN IT'S RAINING OR WHEN IT'S KIND OF COLD.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GOING ON.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD, UM, TO HELP SUPPORT, UH, THE FOREST SERVICE IN THESE ENDEAVORS.

AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT EVERY QUARTER WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND SPEND AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME GOING OVER ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING.

AND THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE ALSO WORKING ON THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF WHO WE ARE HERE IN SEDONA, THE NATIONAL FOREST.

AND, UM, IT IS A PRIMARY ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN SEDONA AS WELL AS ENJOYING IT OURSELVES.

AND, UM, CONTRARY TO SOME OPINIONS, I DO BELIEVE IT IS WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION TO TRY AND TAKE CARE OF THE LAND.

UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A FOREST SERVICE.

AND, UM, I THINK IT'S THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, HOWEVER IT ENDS UP, IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND I APPRECIATE AND THANK ALL OF YOU, BRIAN, ANYTHING.

SURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING, THE, UH, THE LOCAL PAPER LIKES TO OPINE FROM TIME TO TIME ABOUT FREEDOM OF THE PRESS, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

UM, SO I'M THANKFUL THAT, UH, THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS ALIVE AND WELL, AND THAT PEOPLE CAN VOICE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, WHAT THEY SEE GOING ON, UH, IN THEIR COMMUNITY, ORGANIZE AROUND THAT.

UH, IF THAT SHOULD LEAD TO SOMETHING LIKE THE GSRC, THEN I THINK THAT'S, UH, AN EXCELLENT OUTCOME IN THAT REGARD.

UM, SO I DO SAY THANK YOU TO THE GSRC FOR YOUR ONGOING WORK.

IT IS CONSIDERABLE WHAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON.

UM, I WANT TO THANK ALEX AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF HEAT FROM COUNCIL PAST AND PRESENT OVER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DESIRED PERMIT SYSTEM AND WHATNOT.

BUT THE ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT IS A TRANSPARENCY, UH, AND A CANDOR TO, UH, THE PROCESS THAT FRANKLY WE NEVER, UH, WERE PROVIDED PRIOR TO, UM, YOUR TIME IN TAKING OVER THE ROLE.

SO I DO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT, UH, HAS TO BE FOLLOWED.

WE KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT'S BEING WORKED ON, AND THE DATA WILL LEAD WHEREVER IT LEADS, AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT.

OKAY, VICE MAYOR, ANYTHING? WELL, I WAS ONE OF THE HARSHEST CRITICS ABOUT

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THE LACK OF MOVEMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND FRUSTRATION WITH THE SLOWNESS.

AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'VE COMPLETELY TURNED AND I'VE CHANGED AND I SO APPRECIATE THE, THE ACT, THE ACTIVITIES, THE PLAN, THE STRATEGIES, UH, THE FACT THAT ALEX, THAT YOU TELL US WHAT STRAIGHT, DON'T GIVE US HOPE THAT THIS EXIST.

IT WON'T EXIST.

UH, AND UH, I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID TO DO THIS.

YOU'RE ALL VOLUNTEER.

WELL, YOU ARE, BUT YEAH, THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE IS YOU'RE VOLUNTEERS AND, UH, I THINK ABOUT SITTING IN A CAR COUNTY.

, YOU CAN JOIN US.

NO, THANK YOU.

SO ALONG THE ROADS? YEAH, ON THE ROAD, RIGHT IN THE DUSTY ROADS.

ONLY IF THERE'S, I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, BE HAVING A BOOK.

HAVE AN AUDIBLE BOOK, SO I KEEP TIME.

BUT ANYWAY, REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS.

IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

DEREK, YOU CAN'T OPINE ON THIS.

I UNDERSTAND.

WE, WE WORKED A YEAR AND A HALF WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OH THREE COMPANIES.

UH, PETE, THANK YOU MAYOR.

YEAH, I TOO WANT TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION FOR GSRC AND THE GROUP OF, AND THE WORK OF ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE INTO THIS AND, AND MY ENCOURAGEMENT TO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

I MEAN, YOU'RE DOING, YOU'RE DOING SOME GOOD STUFF, SUPER HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

NOT SO HAPPY ABOUT SORT OF THE A TV NOISE ISSUE.

AND, UH, I JOINED IN MY COLLEAGUES HERE ABOUT WE SHOULD, LET'S RENEW THIS CONVERSATION.

IF WE CAN'T GET A PARTNERSHIP GOING, THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'VE GOTTA BE A LITTLE BIT STRONGER OURSELVES.

AND I, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD HAS ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT IT'S JUST NOT WITHIN THEIR CITY BORDERS, THAT THEY HAVE TO CARE ABOUT, THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO INFLUENCED BY WHAT GOES ON OUTSIDE IT.

THAT'S THE SAME SENTIMENT THAT WE'VE EXPRESSED OVER TIME.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR ACTIVITY AND WISH THAT WE WOULD JOIN THEM.

SO THANK YOU KATHY.

YEAH, I, I WANNA AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SET UP HERE BY MY COLLEAGUES, AND ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT THERE'S RECOGNITION, I THINK FROM HERE THAT YES, WHAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE THE BORDER OF THE PHYSICAL, THE LEGAL BORDER OF THE CITY IMPACTS THE CITY.

AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT WHAT MAKES THIS AREA SO SPECIAL.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE ALL DOING AND VOLUNTEERS.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, THE, THE ONES OUT THERE WITH THE CLICKERS WITHOUT SHADE, AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD A ROCKY ROAD SOMETIMES WITH THE SHARING OF INFORMATION 'CAUSE THERE IS A, UM, AN IMPATIENCE, BUT THERE'S GOOD STUFF HAPPENING THERE.

AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH IT.

ALL OF YOU PAID AND UNPAID.

UM, BECAUSE IT DOES, IT TAKES COLLABORATION.

AND, UH, I AGREE ALSO WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAD PARTNERS THAT WERE COLLABORATING WITH US, THAT ARE NOT COLLABORATING WITH US, WE NEED TO BE HAVING ANOTHER RENEWED CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, DUPLICATE WHAT THE VICE MAYOR SAID.

UH, I THINK I, SHE AND I HAVE BOTH SHARED OUR DISPLEASURE FOR THE PAST OF WHAT WAS, UH, THE, THE WORKINGS WITH BEFORE THE GSRC CAME TO BE, UH, WAY BEFORE THAT.

WITH RANGERS TWO AND THREE BEFORE ALEX, UH, THERE'S BEEN A DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT.

UH, I MEAN, REALLY, UH, I I THINK IT'S LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF WHERE YOU WERE OR WHERE THE, THE FOREST.

SO YEAH, PAT HIM ON THE BACK.

HE DES BECAUSE I BEAT HIM UP ALL THE TIME ANYWAY, SO HE DESERVES A PAT ON THE BACK.

BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF IT'S FIVE OR SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM AND WE HA WE DON'T HAVE TO BEAT THE DRUM ANYMORE WITH YOU GUYS.

I THINK THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN, UH, COMING FORWARD JUST FOR THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EYEBROW, LOOKING AT A BROKEN ARROW AND HAVE A PLAN THAT'S DRAMATICALLY A BIG IMPROVEMENT FROM WHERE WE WERE GOING AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND WITH TWO RANGERS AGO, WITH THREE RANGER, I I THINK IT'S TWO RANGERS AGO, OR ONE RANGER AGO.

NO, NO.

UH, TWO, UH, ALEX KNOWS WHO, WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.

UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT AND I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR IT.

UH, AS PETE SAID, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS THE ABOUT THE MUFFLER, UH, CHANGE.

WE WERE NOT TOLD ABOUT THAT.

WE THOUGHT WE HAD PARTNERS.

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AND WE TONED DOWN OUR, MY, MY TERM OF, OF, UH, UH, PUSHBACK FROM THEM BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE, WERE HAVING GREAT CONVERSATIONS.

WE MOVED WAY AHEAD.

AND IT JUST AS AN AGREEMENT, IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, UH, AMONGST THEM AND US AND TO HEAR THAT.

AND WE NEVER GOT A CALL FROM THEM.

AND IT'S REALLY, UH, RED ROCK, UH, OHV.

'CAUSE THE OTHERS REALLY COULDN'T DO MUCH WITH THEIR MOTHER.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MECHANICAL, BUT, UH, IT'S DISAPPOINTING.

SO MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD IF THE COUNCIL IS SO, UH, MOVED BY THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS GSRC, I REALLY WANNA THANK YOU.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT PARKING LOT BUILT OF, OF A BROKEN ARROW, SEEING THAT, UH, THE EYEBROW MOVED, SEEING SPEED LIMITS, SEEING SIGNS UP, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S GONNA MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE IN THE FOREST BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO, WERE TOO MANY ACCIDENTS.

IT'S GETTING BETTER.

BUT, UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT GATE REAL SOON OVER AT BROKEN ARROW.

SO, , COULD I SAY ONE THING? ABSOLUTELY.

SO MY NAME WAS MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, BUT THE, THE PEOPLE ON OUR STAFF, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE MENTIONED GSRC AND THE INPUT THEY'VE HAD, RIGHT.

BUT THE PEOPLE ON OUR STAFF, IT, OUR BENCH IS TWO PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND IT'S PHILLIP WALROD, OUR RECREATION STAFF OFFICER, PLEASE.

AND VIVIAN HACKER OVER HERE.

YEAH, SHE IS OUR RESOURCE ASSISTANT.

WELL, SHE'S SO QUIET BACK THEN.

THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY PUSHED STUFF FORWARD.

AND UM, MY NAME MAY BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES GETTING IT DONE.

I MEAN, AARON HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

AARON'S IN SCOTLAND RIGHT NOW.

FIRST, HE'S ON A CRUISE, THEN HE IS IN SCOTLAND.

HE'S HAVING A BETTER NIGHT THAN US.

HE'S NOT WATCHING.

NO.

UH, BUT THAT'S, AND IT'S TRUE DEDICATION, UH, FROM YOUR, YOUR AGENCY.

AND I, I FEEL THAT THERE, THERE IS A PARTNERSHIP THERE WHERE THERE WASN'T, AND WE WERE BEING STRUNG ALONG BEFORE JUST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.

SO YES, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING EVERYBODY ELSE'S NAME OUT THERE AND GIVING THEM THE CREDIT, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO, AND THANK EVERYONE FROM GSRC, MELISSA INCLUDED.

UH, SHE GOES AND PARTICIPATES WITH THEM AS WELL.

AND I KNOW SHE WAS TELLING ME AND SHE WAS OUT THERE WITH THE CLICKER AND SHE, THERE'S NO CLICKER.

IT'S A, OH, IT'S A PENCIL PAPER.

OH, THAT'S EVEN REALLY HIGH TECH.

I'LL SAY THAT.

WELL, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE IF IT'S WHAT VEHICLE IT IS.

I UNDERSTAND.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MARY'S ALWAYS BEHIND EVERYTHING FRONT OR IN FRONT.

AND, AND DAN, THANKS FOR COMING.

PASS MY, MY KIND WORDS OVER TO JIMMY AND THE REST OF THEM.

JONATHAN HOFFMAN, ASSOCIATE ENGINEER AND PROJECT MANAGER.

[8.c. AB 3233 Discussion/possible action regarding the award of a construction contract for the Little Horse Shared-Use Pathway Improvements Project, Indian Cliffs Road to Little Horse Trailhead Parking Lot, to Mulcaire & Son Contracting, LLC, in an amount not to exceed $160,724.40.]

OKAY, MOVING FORWARD.

ITEM C, AB 32 33.

DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE AWARD OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE LITTLE HORSE, UH, SHARED USE PATHWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, INDIAN CLIFF ROAD TO LITTLE HORSE TRAILHEAD, PARKING LOT TO, UH, MCCO CLE, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW THEM.

UH, AND SONS CONTRACTING LLC AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 160,007.

UH, HUNDRED AND 24 40 AND WOO WOO.

HEY GUYS.

HELLO.

WELCOME BACK.

UM, DIDN'T WE DO THIS NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE DID ANOTHER SHARED USE PATH.

UM, SANDY PHILLIPS, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

WELL-ESTABLISHED SOCIAL TRAIL.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR KURT HARRIS, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

GREAT.

SO THIS ONE WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU, UM, COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS, UM, A SHORT PIECE.

IT'S ONLY 825 LINEAR FEET.

THIS PROJECT IS, UM, I HAVE BACKHOE BEYOND UP THERE, BUT IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 1 79.

SO IT'S SOUTH OF INDIAN CLIFFS ROAD, UM, THAT GO BEYOND THAT ALIGNMENT, THAT ROUNDABOUT.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PICTURES, UM, THE PLAN, UH, THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY IS WE WOULD PICK UP FROM THE EXISTING CONCRETE PATH AND FOLLOW THE, UH, EXISTING SOCIAL TRAIL.

IT APPEARS TO FOLLOW WHAT COULD BE.

AND ALEX WILL PROBABLY, WE'VE WORKED WITH, UM, FOREST SERVICE ON THIS.

THIS IS ON FOREST SERVICE LAND.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED.

UM, AGAIN, ALEX HAS HELPED, UM, OPEN THE DOOR ON THIS PROJECT.

AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA DO A GREAT JOB ON THIS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE ON FOREST SERVICE LAND.

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THE, NO, SANDY, THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

IT IS REALLY EXCITING.

, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALEX AND HIS TEAM, UM, WORKING WITH US.

SO THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR IT, SO IT'S OKAY , BUT WITH, UM, BEING ON FOREST SERVICE LAND AND ALSO, UM, WITHIN ADOT RIGHT AWAY.

SO WE HAD, UM, A LOT OF HURDLES ON THIS.

WE, UM, HAD IT ON OUR, OUR LIST OF PROJECTS WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO COUNCIL IN FY 25.

AND, UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THAT WINDOW IS OPENED AND WE'RE HERE.

SO THIS IS A GREAT PICTURE THAT SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING SOCIAL TRAIL, UM, UNEVEN, MUDDY, UM, GRAVEL.

AND SO WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS SMOOTH THAT OUT.

I DO WANNA BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

UM, WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THIS AND, UM, PROJECT, THE CONCERN IS WITH FOREST SERVICE LAND THAT WE NEED A NEPA CLEARANCE.

AND SO WE LOOKED INTO DOING A NEPA CLEARANCE AND THE COST EXCEEDED THE COST OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF A, UM, STOP.

AND THEN WHEN WE DID, SO WE WENT DOWN, I WENT DOWN TO PHOENIX, WE LOOKED THROUGH ADOT.

'CAUSE WE FIGURED ADOT HAD TO DO A NEPA CLEARANCE IN ORDER TO DO THE 1 79.

WE FOUND THE OLD NEPA STUDY, BUT IT WAS 10 YEARS OLD, SO THAT DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA.

SO, UM, THANK GOODNESS, UM, THE FOREST SERVICE HAS DONE THEIR OWN CLEARANCE AND HELPED US OUT ON THAT.

SO HERE WE ARE MOVING AHEAD.

SO AGAIN, SUPER EXCITED ON THIS PROJECT, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SHORT PROJECT.

UM, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THIS PROJECT TO DO A SEPARATED FROM THE BACK OF CURB MEANDER IT.

UM, THERE'S, UH, GENTLE SLOPES AND, UM, NOT DISTURBING ANY TREES.

SO, UM, YOU SEE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF HOUSES AGAIN.

UM, SO WE DID DO THE 300 FOOT, BUT WE ALSO EXTENDED TO, UH, YONDER.

JONATHAN WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND DROPPED THOSE LETTERS OFF TO THIS CUL-DE-SAC HERE.

AND THEN THERE'S, UM, WE TALKED TO THE CHURCH AND THE PASTOR, SHE'S IN FULL SUPPORT.

AND, UM, THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC TO THE NORTH OF INDIAN CLIFFS, ITALIA ITALIA.

AND WE ALSO SENT NOTICES AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD, UM, WE, JONATHAN SPOKE TO ONE RESIDENT THAT WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ELSE.

SANDY, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

ON THOSE HOUSES, THIS PATH DOESN'T TOUCH THOSE HOUSES AT ALL.

IT DOESN'T GO TO YONDER, IT DOESN'T GO TO, UH, TALIA.

NOPE.

SO WHY DID YOU GO THAT? WAS IT BECAUSE IT'S 300 FEET OR, WELL, IT, THEY WERE EVEN MORE THAN 300 FEET EVEN.

SO AGAIN, IT'S THAT EXTREME OUTREACH THAT YOUR TEAM IS AND STAFF IS DOING THESE DAYS.

UM, ANYBODY THAT, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE SIGNS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO THIS WAY THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING IF THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO YOU.

EXCELLENT.

WE LIKE TRANSPARENCY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO THANK YOU.

AS WE ARE DOING A LOT.

SO, UM, THIS SHOWS YOU THAT, UM, IT'S THIS ITTY BITTY PIECE DOWN HERE THAT, UM, WE'RE NICKING OFF AND AGAIN, UM, WE'RE APPROACHING THAT 10 MILES.

JONATHAN IS SUPER BUSY WITH THE ON DANTE PROJECT.

AND MOVING AHEAD ON THAT, THE DRY CREEK.

WE HAD THE KICKOFF MEETING YESTERDAY.

AND SO, UM, MOVING AHEAD.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JONATHAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS PAGE, THE SHEET HERE, THE LOWEST QUALIFIED RESPONSIVE BIDDER WAS MUL CARE AND SUN AT 160,724 AND 40 CENTS.

AND THIS VIEW HERE IS JUST A PLAN VIEW ON THIS SHEET, BUT LET'S KIND OF WALK, WANNA WALK THROUGH THE OVERALL DETAILS OF THIS.

UH, AS SANDY SAID, IT'S 825 FEET LONG.

UM, AND FORTUNATELY MOST OF THE HARD WORK WAS DONE FOR US IS THAT IT'S AN EXISTING TRAIL.

IT FOLLOWS THE LAND KIND OF PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE, AS IT WERE.

THERE'S NO STREET, NO STEEP GRADES, UH, NO LARGE ISSUES LIKE THAT.

AND IT FOLLOWS AND IT KIND OF MEANDERS THROUGH THE EXISTING TREES.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING KIND OF TO HELP US THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE.

THERE'S NO GRADES THAT EXCEED 4%, SO THIS WILL BE A NICE WALKING PATH, 10 FOOT WIDE FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY.

AND OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL CONNECT FROM THE LITTLE HORSE PARKING AREA TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK, WHICH WILL PROVIDE MORE CONNECTIVITY UP TO, UM, THE SHARED USE PATH OF A CHAPEL ROAD.

SO THAT'LL BE AN EASIER WAY FOR PEDESTRIANS

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AND CYCLISTS TO CONNECT.

UM, AS YOU SEE HERE ON THIS DRAWING, THIS MIDDLE SECTION RIGHT HERE IS THE PATH ITSELF, AND IT SHOWS THE GRADES RIGHT THROUGH HERE.

LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T EXCEED 4%.

THAT'S THE STEEPEST PART RIGHT THROUGH THERE.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE LINES ON EITHER SIDE SHOWING THE AREA OF DISTURBANCE.

AND THEN THIS DOTTED SECTION HERE JUST SHOWS THAT THERE'LL BE NATIVE SEATING ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED JUST TO HELP THE EROSION TO STABILIZE THAT GROUND ONCE CONSTRUCTION'S COMPLETE.

UH, AS SANDY SAID, I REACHED OUT TO FIVE HOUSES ON YONDER LANE AND THE SIX ON COURT, UH, FOR AMENITIES.

THERE ARE EXISTING AMENITIES AT THE TRAILHEAD PARKING AS IT SHOWS THERE.

THERE'S HORSE TRAILER PARKING, CURRENTLY A RESTROOM, PICNIC TABLES, A SHUTTLE STOP, UM, AT THE TRAILHEAD PARKING LOT.

AND THE FOREST SERVICE IS POSSIBLY LOOKING INTO ADDING SHADE STRUCTURES.

IT'S CURRENTLY NOT A PRIORITY AT THIS TIME, BUT MAYBE POSSIBLY LATE 2026, THEY WOULD LOOK INTO REVISITING THAT AGAIN.

AND THE CONSTRUCTION TIME IS, SHOULD YOU APPROVE IS JULY OF THIS YEAR, AND IT'S ROUGHLY 45 DAYS FOR CONTRACT DURATION.

SO IT WOULD BE COMPLETE IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

I THOUGHT THIS, DEREK, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE CREATED A SHARED USE PATH OVER A SOCIAL DRILL TO MY IS NOT FIRST TIME ON FOR SERVICE LINE? YEAH.

OR SERVICE? IT IS.

OKAY, BUT THAT'S THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE.

WE GENERALLY ARE DISCOURAGING USE OF ANY SOCIAL TRAILS.

UH, I BELIEVE THIS PARTICULAR TRAIL HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE FOREST AS A NO, AM I WRONG? UH, ONCE IT'S BUILT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADD THIS TO OUR SYSTEM.

I SEE IT.

IT'S RIGHT NOW A SOCIAL TRAIL AND NOT AN OFFICIAL SYSTEM TRAIL.

NOTHING TO DO WITH, THANK YOU.

UH, PETE, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

WHAT TIME IS IT NOW? .

WOW.

KATHY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

CHECK HIS TEMPERATURE.

SOMETIMES IF THEY'RE SUSTAINABLE, WHICH WE FEEL A, A PATH, A, A CONCRETE PATH IN THIS INSTANCE WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE, THEY'RE OFTEN VERY USEFUL AND MAYBE THE BEST PATH TO GO FORWARD.

UM, THERE IS, IF YOU LOOK ON, UM, JUST LIKE A, ANY MAP IN GOOGLE MAPS OR SOMETHING, THERE IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A SYSTEM OF SOCIAL TRAILS THROUGH THERE.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THIS BECOMING A REAL TRAIL, AN ACCEPTED TRAIL, THE IMPACT IT IS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE, I BELIEVE, ENTERING THAT SYSTEM TO GET HEAD OVER TO LITTLE HORSE, UH, AND TO GET ONTO BELL ROCK TRAIL GOING IN FROM POSSIBLY FAWN COUGAR, UH, CERTAINLY THE BACK OF THE HOUSES ALONG INDIAN CLIFFS.

SO HOW, HOW IS THIS, HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT THOSE? WELL, I, I THINK, THINK OUR GOAL WITH IMPROVING THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF TRAIL IS THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING THE USE OF WHAT WILL BE AN ACCEPTED TRAIL INTO THE FOREST SYSTEM.

SO IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THIS WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE TRAILS THAT ARE ACCEPTED AND NOT THOSE TRAILS THAT ARE NOT, UM, PEOPLE LIKE WATER TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE .

UM, SO I'M JUST WONDERING IS, IS IS THERE EDUCATION FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO NOT INCREASE THE USAGE OF THE UNAUTHORIZED SOCIAL TRAILS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THE SOIL THERE? AND, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA TRY TO INTEGRATE THAT.

SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I GUESS FOR OUR PARTNERS, HEY, UH, PHILLIP WAL ROD REC STAFF OFFICER ON THE RED ROCK.

UM, SO I, I WOULD SAY ON SOME OF THOSE MAPPING, MAPPING TOOLS, SOME OF THOSE SOCIAL TRAILS MAY BE OLD BECAUSE WE HAVE AROUND THAT LITTLE HORSE WE'VE FENCED AROUND THAT WHOLE PRIVATE PROPERTY NOW, RIGHT? SO, SO CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT SEEING THE CONTINUED, UH, SOCIAL TRAIL COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO THEIR ON BACK, ONTO THE, TO THE FOREST SERVICE LAND.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, I I, IT'S BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE IS WHEN WE PROVIDE, AGAIN, AS YOU GUYS THINK YOU SAID, IS THAT PATH OF LEASE RESISTANCE, THAT'S WHERE MAJORITY OF THE USE GOES.

SO, UM, WE, WE TEND TO TRY TO, IF WE SEE SOCIAL ISSUES, SOCIAL TRAILS AS A, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY PREDICT THAT THAT USE IS THERE, RIGHT? THAT THAT USE WANTS TO BE THERE.

AND

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I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF, I, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF MY FELLOW TRAIL BIKE RIDERS ON YOUR, CAN I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU? IF YOU, WHAT? IF YOU TAKE IT WHEN, IF YOU'RE DONE, I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

LET ME JUST FINISH THIS ONE.

UH, WHICH IS, IS THERE ACCESS HAPPENING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE BACKEND WAYS ON, YOU KNOW, BIKES THERE THAT ARE REALLY NEED TO BE EDUCATED TO BE ROUTED TO WHAT WILL BE THE LEGITIMATE TRAIL? I COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I WONDERED WHY I WAS LOOKING AT YOU.

GO AHEAD, .

SO, SO THERE IS ONE OTHER SOCIAL TRAIL THAT HISTORICALLY IT WAS, I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT IT WAS SOCIAL.

THERE WAS A TIME THAT THERE WERE CARITE SIGNS, RIGHT? DIRECTING TO THE ONE PARTICULAR SOCIAL TRAIL.

AND IT HAS A NAME ON STRAVA.

I'M LIKE LOOKING FOR, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S CALLED CRUSTY IS OUR, NO, NOT CRUSTY, UH, MAYBE IT'S RUSTY'S CONNECTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'VE WIPED OUT ON THAT ONE.

UM, .

BUT, UH, TO COUNCILOR ELLA'S POINT, THE, THE MAIN ACCESS FOR ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE CHAPEL AREA BY AND LARGE, WHETHER, IF IT'S NOT THAT SOCIAL TRAIL, THEN IT IS WHAT'S GONNA GET BUILT RIGHT HERE.

UM, I'VE PROBABLY RIDDEN THAT SOCIAL TRAIL BETWEEN 50 AND A HUNDRED TIMES.

UH, THERE'S, IT'S NOT, UH, NAMED ON STRAVA CURRENTLY, SO I DON'T HAVE A COUNT, BUT, UH, IT'S A VERY WELCOME PROJECT.

SO I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MAJOR EDUCATING EFFORT TO BE HAD.

AND I THINK THAT NON BIKE USERS WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE OTHER SOCIAL TRAIL, UH, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULDN'T.

AND, AND LIKE, UH, BRIAN, I LIVE FOUR BLOCKS FROM HERE.

I WALK WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE, SHE USE PATH VERY OFTEN BECAUSE I, I HIKE THROUGH AND I COME DOWN A LITTLE HORSE AND I GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND I WALK DOWN HERE.

I THINK WHAT COUNCILOR KINSELLA IS LOOKING AT AS, UH, JONATHAN SAID IT'S FENCED OFF NOW BECAUSE IF YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION HERE, THE HOMES, THE BACK OF THE HOMES, YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM THROUGH HERE ANYMORE.

UH, AND HOW DO I KNOW THAT? UH, I TRIED BECAUSE YOU TRIED ? I TRIED, I TRIED , BUT UH, AND IT WAS, I WAS HAPPY TO SEE YOU COULD, YOU CAN'T GET TO THOSE HOUSES 'CAUSE THERE'S A FENCE UP THERE, WHICH IS PRETTY COOL.

THERE'S ALSO HERE A LOT OF DRAINAGE.

RUNOFF TRAILS.

IT'S NOT WALKING TRAILS, IT'S NOT BIKE TRAILS, IT'S, IT'S A RUNOFF.

SO, 'CAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT RAISED THERE, SO IT RUNS OFF.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR SHARED USE PATH WILL DO A LOT FOR SAFETY AND A LOT FOR AESTHETICS AND A LOT TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF ANYWHERE ELSE.

I THINK IT'S, UH, AND IT'S REALLY SHORT HELP.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY COMPLAINTS OF PEOPLE FALLING THERE, UH, IS BEYOND ME, BUT I THINK BECAUSE THE BIKE'S GOING OVER IT SO OFTEN, THEY, THEY DID GET IT DOWN.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

THAT'S MY FOLLOW UP TO KATHY.

GO AHEAD.

HAS THE CITY REMOVED ALL THE SIGNAGE? THE CARCIN HAD PEOPLE THERE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE OR NOT.

THEY HAVE THE SIGN YEARS AGO.

THE, THE SIGNAGE DIRECTS YOU TO STAY ON THE STREETS GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH INDIAN CLIFFS OUT TO 1 79.

BIG, BIG IMPROVEMENT.

SO ANYWAY, UH, PETE DID KATHY, YOU'RE, ARE YOU DONE? THANKS.

AND COMMENTS? IS THAT WERE COMMENTS? YEAH, COMMENTS.

OH, GREAT.

OH, SORRY.

I DRANK, I DIDN'T, ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? OH, YES, I, I QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

DEREK, YOU WANT YOU, I ASKED MY QUESTIONS.

UH, GO AHEAD.

NO QUESTIONS.

UH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS, MADAM CLERK? NO MA'AM.

OKAY, THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR COMMENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GETTING DONE.

UH, LOOK FORWARD TO RIDING ON THAT.

I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE HUMP OUT.

THERE'S THIS ONE HUMP, UH, OUT THERE THAT HAS LIKE A PIECE OF METAL IN IT TOO, WHICH LIKE, WE'VE SEEN IT KIND OF ODD, BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S TO DO WITH DRUM.

THAT'S, THAT'S A BICYCLE, UH, HUMP.

YOU KNOW, IT KEEPS FEEDERS DOWN BEING, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

IT'S A SPEED TABLE.

ALL THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

SPEED TABLE.

'CAUSE WE KNOW YOU DID ALL THE WORK .

THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS AND UH, THANK YOU FOR A SERVICE FOR UH, HELPING MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THERE YOU GO.

MELISSA, ANYTHING JUST BRIEFLY, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS SHARED YOUTH PATH.

I'VE ACTUALLY WALKED THIS FROM THE LITTLE HORSE, UM, PARKING LOT.

SO, AND EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ON A BIKE, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THERE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE TRICKY.

SO, UM, I THINK THIS WILL BE A VAST IMPROVEMENT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE DOING THAT.

AND THANK YOU TO THE FOREST SERVICE.

PHIL, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALEX

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SO THANK YOU PHIL FOR, UM, HELPING OUT AND GETTING THIS DONE.

VICE MAYOR.

UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALEX, BUT I WOULD ALSO PLEASE ASK TO CONSIDER SHADE STRUCTURES AS SOON AS YOU CAN IN.

AND ACTUALLY WHEN I SAY ALEX, I MEAN THE WHOLE TEAM.

THE WHOLE TEAM.

PETE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, I RECOGNIZE THAT I'M A BIT OF A PAIN IN CHALLENGING, LET'S SAY CHALLENGING.

NO, NO, NO.

YOU WERE RIGHT.

, YOU WERE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

WE DON'T WANNA ARGUE WITH YOU ABSOLUTELY ON THIS, UH, TOPIC.

UM, BUT I, I MUST ADMIT THAT, UH, THIS IS A, A REALLY SUPER EFFORT.

THANKS.

I'M SUPER HAPPY ABOUT, UH, IMPROVING CONNECTIVITY IN THIS AREA AND IT WILL IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A DIRT PATH THERE.

THIS IS GONNA BE A USEFUL THING FOR MANY PEOPLE.

UH, IT BEING SEPARATED FROM THE ROADWAY, TICKLED TO DEATH ABOUT, UH, THE COLLABORATION WITH THE FOREST SERVICE.

GREAT.

LOVE TO SEE THAT MODEL.

IT'S GREAT.

I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF, UH, OUTREACH GOING BEYOND THE 300 FEET.

I THINK I MIGHT HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT CHALLENGING US TO DO THESE KIND OF THINGS, BUT, UH, THIS IS A GREAT JOB.

SO THANK YOU KATHY.

I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE OUTREACH AND GOING BEYOND THE, THE MORE THE BETTER.

AND I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM 100 TO THE 100TH POWER IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

UM, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, REALLY HELPFUL IN TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE AREA OUT THERE THAT HAS BEEN TRODDEN.

UM, AND THIS IS GREAT.

THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.

UH, THIS JUST TICKS SO MANY BOXES OF GOALS THAT WE HAVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THIS PROJECT.

GREAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP ALEX AND TEAM.

SO I, THE VICE MAYOR REMINDED ME, I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THOSE, THE SHADES, UH, STRUCTURES.

ALEX, WHERE, WHAT TEAM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA GO OR WHAT THAT'S GONNA, WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE? SO THE GENERAL PROPOSAL IS JUST THAT ALL OF OUR SHUTTLE STOPS IS TO HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES.

SO IDEALLY THERE'D BE SHADE STRUCTURES ON THE FOREST SERVICE STOPS ALL THE TRAIL HEADS, AND THEN ALSO AT ALL THE PARKING LOTS ON THE CITY PROPERTY.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A GREAT PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR US.

IT'S BALANCING, USING OUR LIMITED CAPACITY, GOING THROUGH THAT NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT PLANNING PROCESS.

AT THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T PRIORITIZED THAT.

UM, TO BE HONEST, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH JUST MAINTAINING WATER LEAKS AND THAT KIND OF THING IN A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPED RECREATION SITES.

SO, SO THINGS THAT ARE MORE OF AN AESTHETIC OR, OR BENEFIT, ALTHOUGH I, I WOULD SAY THIS HAS A PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFIT TOO.

JUST HAVEN'T RISEN TO THAT LEVEL YET.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEED A MOTION? OH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I, I'M SORRY I WAS SKIPPING THAT PART.

I JUST GO AHEAD.

IT'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

IT IS.

I MOVED TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH MUL CARE AND SUN CONTRACTING LLC FOR THE LITTLE HORSE SHARED USE PATHWAY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, INCLUDING THE AGGREGATE UNDER THE CONCRETE PATHWAY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $160,724 AND 40 CENTS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A SECOND.

THAT WAS BY PETE.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WERE YOU UNANIMOUS? THANK YOU SO MUCH NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, KURT, I GUESS YOU'RE UP.

[8.f. AB 3188 Discussion/possible direction/action regarding proposed State legislation, short-term rental legislation, lobbying efforts, and State budget and their potential impact on the City of Sedona.]

NOTHING.

THIS IS ITEM F, AB 31 88.

DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION ACTION.

REGARDING PROPOSED STATE LEGISLATION, SHORT-TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION, LOBBYING EFFORTS, AND THE STATE BUDGET AND THEIR POTENTIAL IMPACT ON, UH, CITY OF SEDONA.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

AND COUNSEL.

SO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UH, ADJOURNED ON, UH, JUNE 27TH, UH, WEEK AGO, LAST FRIDAY.

THEY DID PASS A BUDGET, UH, JUST IN TIME.

UM, UH, THE GENERAL EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE, THE LAWS WILL BE SEPTEMBER 25TH.

A FEW OF THEM, UM, ARE EFFECTIVE THE END OF THE YEAR, DECEMBER 31ST THAT AFFECT THE CITY.

UH, SO WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME CHANGES IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, UH, REGARDING LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS, UM, AND THEN SOME LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES THAT ARE, WERE AFFECTED BY THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING TO REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF COURT? OKAY.

HEARING NONE, UH, MAYOR, SORRY, IT'D BE A COMMENT ACTUALLY.

LITECH FINANCING FOR, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WORTH THE PUBLIC KNOWING THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR, 'CAUSE THEY DID ALL SIGN OFF ON THIS, UH, DID KILL

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SO WE WON'T BE SEEING ANY, UH, LITECH PROPOSALS AT LEAST IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT.

I THINK WE GOT THAT EMAIL YESTERDAY CAME BACK.

DEVICE MAIL, I THINK SENT IT OUT.

THANK

[8.g. AB 3066 Discussion/possible action regarding future meeting/agenda items.]

YOU.

OKAY, ITEM G, AB 30 66, UH, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FUTURE MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? HEARING NONE.