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[Historic Preservation Commission on July 21, 2025.]
HOT MIC.UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, THERE'S SOMETHING I NEED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT, UH, AFTER.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING BACK? I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMEBODY NEW
UM, WELL, SINCE SHE IS NEW, OH, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SUPPORT HER.
DO WE HAVE TO COUNT DOWN OR CAN WE, UH, YOU CAN START WHATEVER.
WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
UH, IF YOU'D ALL RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, JUSTICE.
ALL YOU KNOW THAT PRAISE GOD WAS FORCED ON US.
ROLL CALL BEFORE WE GET CARRIED AWAY WITH EISENHOWER TRIVIA.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY CARRIE
UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THE COMMISSION SIDE? HOW ABOUT ON STAFF SIDE? THEY'RE JUMPING UP AND DOWN, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA LISTEN TO 'EM.
UH, I'M JUST HERE FOR SUPPORT.
BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS LIKE, I'M YOU, YOU'VE TRAINED ME.
UM, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 9TH, 2025.
EVERYONE IN RECEIPT OF THOSE? I HAVE NO COMMENT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET 'EM.
I THINK THEY ARRIVED, BUT I HAD A HARD TIME.
UM, FIGURED IT OUT ON, ON THE CITY EMAIL.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAD A HARD TIME OPENING THE MINUTES, SO I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED.
SO, UM, DO WE TABLE THEM FOR THE NEXT ONE AND PROVE 'EM NEXT TIME AND RECIRCULATE 'EM IN THE MEANTIME? OKAY.
COULD YOU READ ADDRESS? WAS THAT BOBBY? UH, HOTMAIL.
I GOT IT ON HOTMAIL, BUT THEN I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T, I WAS IN A HURRY, SO I DIDN'T GO DIRECTLY TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
I TRIED THE LINK THAT DIDN'T WORK, SO I STOPPED RIGHT THEN.
I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO MY, MY DAYLIGHT WAS RUNNING OUT.
OKAY, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL RECIRCULATE THOSE AND, UH, AND WE WILL, UH, PUT 'EM UP FOR APPROVAL NEXT MONTH.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 31 0 1 H, ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, DONNA? NO.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM, REGULAR BUSINESS INTRODUCTION OF NEW STAFF LIAISON AND DISCUSSION REGARDING MEETING MATERIALS AND PACKETS.
NEW STAFF LIAISON, TAKE IT AWAY.
I THINK, WELL, I MET YOU ONES, I DON'T KNOW PRIOR TO THE MEETING, BUT I AM THE CITY'S PLANNING MANAGER.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR JUST OVER 13 YEARS.
BEEN DOING MOSTLY THINGS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WITH SOME CHANGES IN STAFF.
RECENTLY I HAVE, UM, GOT STUCK, ALSO TAKEN ON THE THIS TASK.
UM, SO YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, I'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.
IS THAT ONE THING THAT AS I'VE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, I DID NOTICE THAT FOR EACH MEETING YOU'RE JUST BEING GIVEN AN AGENDA.
UM, THE STANDARD THAT I'M USED TO WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THAT YOU GET MATERIALS
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FOR EACH AGENDA ITEM.SO WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME THINGS TO REVIEW IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT KIND OF FLYING BLIND DURING THE MEETING.
AND SO PART OF THE FUN OF SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION WAS THE SURPRISE EVERY MONTH
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT.
UM, WE GET, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISCOMMUNICATION LAST WEEK.
I WAS ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY FOUND OUT WHEN I WENT TO GO SEND OUT THE PACKET THAT I DID NOT HAVE IT'S PERMISSION TO SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL.
UM, IT GOT A NICE LITTLE, LIKE FLASHING RED ALERT THAT SAYS I DIDN'T HAVE PERMISSION, SO I'D ASKED DONNA TO SEND IT OUT, BUT SOMETHING LIKE IT GOT MOVED TO THE WRONG INBOX.
AND SO I APOLOGIZED FOR IT COMING OUT A LITTLE LATER THAN WE ANTICIPATED LAST WEEK.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, WE'LL BE AIMING TO GET THOSE OUT A WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
SO YOU'D HAVE THE AGENDA AND THE PACKET THAT USUALLY COMES THROUGH AS WE WILL JUST UPLOAD THEM TO THE WEBSITE AND SEND YOU A LINK.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THE LINK IS IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A PAGE BEFORE AND YOU DON'T, IF WE TELL YOU IT'S THERE AND YOU DON'T SEE IT AND REFRESH THE PAGE BEFORE YOU CALL US AND ASK WHERE IT IS.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES SOMETHING IS HAPPENING WITH THE WEBSITE.
THAT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY IF, UM, IT HAPPENS WITH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION A LOT WHERE WE UPLOAD MAYBE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS OR SOMETHING THAT CAME IN LATER AND THEY HAD GONE TO THE PAGE COUPLE DAYS AGO TO CHECK OUT THE PACKET.
NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK TO LOOK AT THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IT JUST DOESN'T POP UP WHEN YOU FIRST BRING IT UP.
THEN YOU GIVE US A CALL AND ASK US WHERE IT IS.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL TRY TO GET THOSE SENT OUT.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME, YOU WERE MENTIONING IT ABOUT YOUR CITY EMAILS.
WE'RE GONNA GO FOR PROBABLY A COUPLE MONTHS WITH SENDING 'EM, SENDING PACKETS TO BOTH EMAIL ADDRESSES UNTIL WE'RE ASSURED THAT EVERYONE'S GETTING STUFF ON THEIR CITY EMAILS.
IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THAT, LET US KNOW.
WE WENT THROUGH THIS, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO GET A BUNCH OF BUGS WORKED OUT, BUT WE'LL TRY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
BUT SOME OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE GOTTEN LATELY IS TO TRY TO PRIORITIZE CITY EMAILS JUST AS FAR AS A RECORD KEEPING PURPOSE AND, AND THAT, BUT FOR AT LEAST PROBABLY THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, WE'LL PROBABLY JUST SEND THEM TO BOTH.
SO IF YOU GET THEM ON ONE BUT NOT THE OTHER, JUST LET US KNOW AND OUR IT DEPARTMENT WILL HELP, UH, HELP OUT.
AND IF THERE'S, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PROBLEMS, JUST LET ME KNOW.
WE'RE HERE TO HELP, BUT HOPEFULLY TRY TO.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET YOU SOME MATERIAL.
SO THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER STUPAC, PASS THESE OUT.
IF YOU WANNA DROP THOSE OFF BY OUR OFFICE, WE CAN SCAN THEM AND GET THEM IN THE PACKET AHEAD OF TIME AS WELL.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE I RUN IN HERE AND PASS THEM OUT.
RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S MAKES SENSE.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM.
WELL, AND I, WHAT THEY PRINT, WHAT I'LL DO IS HAVE 'EM PRINT OUT AND THEN SET, JUST KEEP THEM HERE,
AND THEN, YEAH, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, UM, WE HAVE AT LEAST, UH, WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION THAT WE JUST HAD SOMEONE ACCEPT THE JOB TODAY.
SO HOPEFULLY SHE'LL GET HERE AND START HELPING WITH SOME OF THAT TOO, BUT, RIGHT.
UM, LIKE I DO, YOU KNOW, I'M LEARNING A LOT ABOUT HPC AND LIKE, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE, WHAT'S NOT.
AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN JUST KIND OF ALL LEARN TOGETHER.
UM, IF ONE OF US IS SUBMITTING SOMETHING TO YOU FOR MM-HMM
UH, FOR THAT BOARD PACKET, KNOWING THAT THE BOARD PACKET IS, YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THAT OUT OR WE CAN ADVANCE, WHEN DO YOU WANT THAT FROM US? UM, I MEAN, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT IT THAT DAY,
I MEAN, IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON WHAT FORM IT'S COMING IN.
IF YOU'RE SENDING IT, IF YOU'RE JUST EMAILING IT TO US AND IT'S SOMETHING, SOMETHING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY FROM AN EMAIL PDF REAL QUICK.
UM, NONE, NONE OF YOUR PACKETS ARE, I DON'T THINK ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND PAGES OR ANYTHING.
UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE CITY COUNCIL PACKETS.
WE'RE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT I MEAN, THE THURSDAY BEFORE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING WHERE YOU WANT THAT EXTRA WEEKEND, WE'D PROBABLY JUST ASK FOR A HEADS UP, BE LIKE, HEY, I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOU.
I'LL HAVE IT TO YOU FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE A, JUST FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT A, SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THERE IS SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE GET THAT OUT A WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
WHEREAS IF IT'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FOR DISCUSSION ONLY, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY ON THE DATE.
SO THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SENT OUT ON TUESDAY IF YOU'RE JUST RUNNING BEHIND.
BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA
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THAT YEAH.REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, THERE'S, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT OUT SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE.
UM, GETTING ITEMS, LIKE ALL THIS STUFF I PASSED OUT JUST NOW.
I COULD'VE EASILY HAD THAT LAST THURSDAY.
AND, UH,
UH, AT THE, AT THE OFFICE HERE? YEAH.
OR YEAH, IF YOU JUST DROP SOMETHING OFF AND YOU JUST TELL THE PEOPLE AT THE FRONT COUNTER.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND I, I MEAN BOBBY 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T LIVE UP HERE MIGHT, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, WE'LL TAKE IT BY EMAIL TOO.
IF YOU JUST KNOW IF YOU ALREADY HAVE IT, I GET IT TO YOU.
BUT IS DEFINITELY, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
AND WE'LL JUST HOPEFULLY ALL LEARN TOGETHER.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM? ALL FROM ME ON THAT ONE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.
SO, UH, WE'D KIND OF, UM, TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES.
UH, COMMISSIONER EGNER, UH, PUT TOGETHER SOME LANGUAGE, UH, FOR LAST MEETING, BUT IT WAS ONLY FOR DISCUSSION, NOT FOR SEND, SAYING SEND IT ON.
UM, UH, I TOOK, UH, COMMISSIONER ER'S LETTER.
UM, SO IT'S ALL READY TO, TO GO.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, AS PART OF THE PACKET
AND WHEN I LEAVE IT IN THE CAR,
IT'S, IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, WHATEVER REDEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE THERE, UH, UH, KEEP THAT, UH, THAT, THAT BUILDING, I ALMOST SAID PROPERTY, BUT NOT THE PROPERTY, THE BUILDING.
UM, UH, SEE THEM MAKE AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE THAT BUILDING IN THE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO TRYING TO, WELL, LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, IF THE NEW PURCHASERS OF THE LAND, WHO'S THAT APPARENTLY WANT TO DO MULTI DWELLINGS, UH, I MENTIONED THAT LAST, UH, COMMISSION MEETING THAT MAYBE THEY COULD BE TALK TO ABOUT KEEPING THE, UH, THE BUILDING, THE RIGBY HOUSE AND MAKING THAT STYLE, THE STYLE OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND KEEPING IT ALL IN ONE.
THAT WOULD BE WONDER IF WE COULD, IF THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO THEM.
IT'S A, A THOUGHT
SO, UM, I WAS GONNA TRY TO BRING IT UP
UM, I'M NOT SURE WE NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A VOTE.
I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT HERE.
IT'S JUST DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO PASS IT ON TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND MM-HMM
UH, THE CITY COUNCIL CC'D ON THAT.
WE INVOLVED THE CRACKS RESOLVED.
SO THERE WAS NO OTHER CHANGES THAT THEY'RE ALL GOOD COMES UP.
OKAY, THEN I WILL SIGN IT FOR YOU AND OFF WE'LL GO.
UM, OUTTA CURIOSITY, HAS THERE BEEN ANY MOVEMENT FROM ON THAT PROJECT? UM, THE CITY THEY RESUBMITTED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
AND SO WE HAD THE FIRST, UM, ROUND OF COMMENTS THAT WE HAD PROVIDED COMMENTS ON A COUPLE MONTHS BACK.
I HAVEN'T, UM, LOOKED THROUGH IT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY WANT THE REZONE SO THEY CAN SELL IT RIGHT.
UM, AND SO OUR, THE FOCUS OF OUR COMMENTS, UM, THE LAST TIME AROUND WERE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT, THAT WHAT THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR IN A REZONING APPLICATION.
LIKE WHAT CAN WE GET NOW WHEN THEY'RE NOT DOING DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE HISTORIC OR THE, I GUESS IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY HISTORIC, BUT THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
IF, IF THE REZONING WILL GO IN FRONT OF P AND Z AT SOME POINT.
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COULD WE BE INVITED TO, TO STATE OUR POSITION? YEAH.YEAH, I MEAN, IF THE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DIRECTED THE CHAIR TO SEND THE LETTER.
SO HE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT LETTER IS NOW SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING INDIVIDUAL.
AND THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
THAT WOULD GO THE PACKET WHENEVER THAT COMES BEFORE THEM.
AND THEN, YEAH, WE CAN LET YOU, COMMISSIONERS CAN SHOW UP AND EXPRESS OUR THREE MINUTES AND YES.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE? GREAT.
UH, MOVE ON TO WHERE THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF ACTION, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING ONGOING UPDATES TO HISTORIC SURVEYS AND POTENTIAL LANDMARKS.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO, TO KAREN AND BOBBY, UM, TO, TO YES.
'CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING HARD.
I, I HAVE TO SAY THAT, UM, BOBBY AND I HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE FIELD, UH, DOING THE SURVEYS AND THE BACKDROP JACK HAS BEEN GIVING US, I'VE BEEN BEHIND THE COMPUTER.
HE'S BEEN BEHIND THE, I MEAN, THE THREE OF US HAVE REALLY, UH, NOT ALL TOGETHER AT ONCE, JUST BOBBY AND I, BUT REALLY HAD A LOT OF HELP FROM, THREE OF US HAVE WORKED HARD AND WITH BOBBY AND I, WE WERE OUT IN THE HEAT.
SO, BUT YOU'LL SEE FROM YOUR PACKET THAT WE HAVE FOUR SITES THAT WE HAVE SURVEYED, AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC, BOBBY.
BUT WE HAVE CHURCH OF THE RED ROCKS, UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST.
ONE THING THAT IS EXCITING ABOUT THAT, WHICH WHAT? I WASN'T SURE.
THAT IS ONE WE JUST MIGHT GET TO LANDMARK BECAUSE IT IS OWNED BY THE COUNT THE CHURCH COUNCIL IN SEDONA.
IT'S NOT OWNED BY A SYNOD SOMEWHERE IN OHIO.
IT IS OWNED BY THE CHURCH HERE.
THAT IS REAL PLUS NOW THE OTHER ONE IS THE STAR MOTEL.
I HAVE TALKED TO THE ONE, ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE MRS ON THAT ONE.
AND, UM, I THINK, UH, WHEN WE GET A CO, WHEN WE GET A GOOD COPY TO HER OF THE SURVEY, UH, SHE AND HER HUSBAND MICHAEL, I THINK WE MIGHT GET THAT AS A LANDMARK.
ALSO, THE, UM, CEMETERY, THE, THE, UH, SEDONA COMMUNITY CEMETERY WILL NOT HAPPEN.
UH, AND SADLY THAT ONE I HAVE DISCOVERED IS PRETTY MUCH MAXED OUT.
THEY WANT TO PUT A, UM, BIG MORTUARY OR A BIG, UM, BUILDING ON THERE FOR, UH, MAUSOLEUM.
I FIND CALCIUM TODAY WANTS TO BUILD A BIG MAUSOLEUM.
NOW BOBBY AND I ARE LOOKING AROUND AND I'M GOING WHERE?
WE CAN'T, I WAS GONNA SAY, I BET A MORTUARY WAS A SHOCK TO, UH, THE PLANNING STAFF OVER HERE.
MIGHT BE A GOOD MONEY MAKER EDITION.
UH, A LOT MORE TO DISCOVER ON THAT.
BUT AS OF NOW, IT IS NOT, UH, YOU CAN'T, THEY DON'T WANT A LANDMARK.
THE, UH, LAST ONE IS NICK'S, UH, CAFE OR NICK'S RESTAURANT.
AND WE, JACK, DID YOU TALK TO THE OWNER? HAVE YOU TALKED TO HIM? NO, I'VE NOT TALKED TO THE OWNER AT THIS TIME.
I WAS ASKED TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAD, UM, A SURVEY THAT WAS TYPED, UH, BEFORE WE APPROACH THE OWNER.
AND THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN THE FELLOW WHO IS RUNNING THE RESUME, HE RENTS, UH, JONATHAN IS QUITE ON BOARD WITH AVIT LANDMARK AND BOBBY, AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S NOT A, WHAT THEY CAN DO TOO MUCH TO CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT.
IT PRETTY MUCH USES THE WHOLE CORNER OF TORTILLA DRIVE IN 89 A.
SO, UM, UH, I, I'M THINKING THAT THREE OUT OF THE FOUR, WE MIGHT HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING THOSE LANDMARK.
AND LIKE I SAY, WE'RE GONNA, UH, WORK ON GETTING A MORE FORMAL, UH, PRESENTATION OF THE SURVEYS.
THERE ARE FOUR MORE THAT I AM ANXIOUS TO DO.
AND BOBBY'S LOOKING AT ME WHAT
BUT WE, THE IDEA IS TO GET THESE GOING AND HAVE, I HAD A LIST OF EIGHT, WHICH I PASSED OUT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO THAT NEED TO BE SURVEYED.
SOME, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT WILL NOT EVER BE ABLE TO BE LANDMARKED.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS THE ELKS LODGE.
THAT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER ONES THAT
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THAT I THINK WE CAN GET.AND AS I GO FURTHER AND FURTHER ALONG, UH, ALSO REPORT ON YOUR FRIEND, UH, WHO HAS THE, THE WOOD TO ALBRIGHT.
UH, HE'S OUT OF THE COUNTRY TO I THINK, UM, LATE FALL MAYBE, MAYBE WINTER.
AND HE, HE WASN'T GONNA MAKE A DECISION UNTIL HE HAD A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND GET THE INFORMATION HE NEEDS AND ALSO BE THERE TO, UH, SCHEDULE OUR, OUR WALKABOUT.
SO I THINK HE'D LIKE TO BE PRESENT.
HE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ME.
AND I, IT'S BECAUSE I'M REALLY NEW AT THIS.
I COULDN'T ANSWER A LOT OF HIS QUESTIONS.
AND SO BEFORE I ACTUALLY, AT SOME POINT WHEN I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM, I NEED TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE I'M, I'M SAYING THE RIGHT THING.
SO, BUT, UH, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT STANDS.
HE, TO ME, HE, HE SOUNDS REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT.
YOU'VE, YOU'VE MET TO ALBRIGHT, I THINK.
IS THIS THE ONE WHERE'S BEEN DESIGNING THE GUEST HOUSE? YEP.
SO HE, HE'S, UH, PRETTY ENTHUSIASTIC.
SO, SO I, I INTENDED TO GET A HOLD OF HIM BEFORE I CAME IN TONIGHT.
I DID GET ROUND UP BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO, I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM AND JUST KIND OF FEEL HIM OUT A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
ONE QUESTION I HAD IS THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE'RE GOING OUT THERE AND, AND DOING A STUDY.
THEN HOW DOES THE, THE COMMISSION HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND ADD TO IT, SUBTRACT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO AND APPROACH SOMEBODY ABOUT PRESERVING THE, THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE ONE RIGHT OFF THE GET GO, THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT IN PUTTING THIS INFORMATION DOWN.
BUT THEN I GO THROUGH IT AND I, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON HOW TO MAKE IT CLEAR, ESPECIALLY ON THE ARCHITECTURAL STUFF.
SO I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET THAT LANGUAGE.
BUT ONCE I SEE IT IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY CLEAR TO ME, I, THAT'S NOT QUITE WHAT THE WAY YOU SHOULD SAY IT.
AND, AND SAME WITH, UM, ANOTHER THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME, SOME OF THE HISTORIC STUFF.
I READ IT AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A, UM, UH, I THINK THAT'S LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
BIBLIOGRAPHY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT.
THAT YOU, I I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, IF, IF YOU CAN STEP UP AND KIND OF FILL IN SOME OF THE BLANKS ON THOSE SURVEYS, UM, WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL PHRASEOLOGY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE HISTORICAL SIGHTING AND HERITAGE MUSEUM CAN STEP UP AND FILL IN THE BLANKS ON SOME OF THE HISTORY.
UM, AND, AND WE'VE GOT VOLUNTEERS THAT CAN TRACK STUFF DOWN.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, COULD BE BURIED DEEP IN OUR ARCHIVES.
IN, IN THE PAST WE WOULD START WITH CAN YOU, WHAT DID THE, WHAT DID THE COMMUNITY, WHAT WAS THE COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPERTY? AND, AND THEN USUALLY JANINE OR SOMEBODY WOULD DO MORE A DEEPER DIVE LATER ON TO SEE IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
BUT WE JUST KIND OF, YOU WORK OFF THE ARCHITECTURAL THAT YOU SEE MM-HMM
YOU WORK OFF THE HISTORY, YOU KIND OF KNOW, AND THEN WE DIG DEEPER.
SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THESE SURVEYS AND ADD OR SUBTRACT MM-HMM
AND GET IT AS GOOD AS IT COULD GET.
THE CHURCH WAS REALLY CONFUSING FOR ME.
UM, AND THEN HOW YOU EVEN DECIDE WHETHER THAT BUILDING IS, UM, CAN BE, UM, NOTICED.
SO THERE'S, 'CAUSE THERE'S LOT OF LAYERS.
THERE'S A LOT OF LAYERS THAT YOU'RE CORNER OF GOING.
WELL, AT WHAT POINT YOU'RE NOT, IS IT NOT SUITABLE? AND WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF, I WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION YET.
YEAH, I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, I THINK FOREVER, UH, ON AND OFF.
AND USUALLY IT WOULD COME TO A DISCUSSION WHERE YOU WOULD MAKE A COMMENT.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS CORRECT.
SOMEBODY WOULD COMMENT AND SAY, WELL, THERE'D BE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN US THEN IF WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH AN ANSWER, WE'D DO MORE RESEARCH.
BUT USUALLY THE EXPERTISE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU WHO HAS EXPERTISE IN ARCHITECTURE TO GUIDE US.
I MIGHT KNOW A LITTLE HISTORY AND, YOU KNOW, MORE HISTORY.
BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE GROUP WORKED IN THE PAST.
AND THEN IF WE REALLY COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT, WE'D GET, WE'D HIRE AN EXPERT OR WE'D FIND THE EXPERT.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS THAT, UM, ONCE SOMEBODY, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION HAS IDENTIFIED A PROPERTY, UM, THAT THEY THOUGHT, UH, MET LANDMARK STATUS, UM, TYPICALLY YOU WOULD GO THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, UH, FIND OUT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ABOUT THE PROPERTY, UH, ENGAGE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, SEE IF THEY ARE WILLING TO HAVE IT LANDMARKED.
AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR
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THAT LANDMARK STATUS.WE THEN WOULD, UH, HIRE, WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
WE WOULD HIRE A PROFESSIONAL SURVEYOR, UH, AS WE DID WITH THE LA THE LAST TWO, UH, LANDMARK PROPERTIES THAT WE DID.
UM, THAT PERSON WOULD THEN DO A BIT DEEPER DIVE TO VERIFY THAT, UM, THERE WAS ENOUGH, UH, INFORMATION TO PROVE THAT IT MET THE STANDARDS FOR LANDMARKING.
DID THIS TRAINING, I'M SORRY, THIS TRAINING, THE CLC TRAINING.
WHERE DOES THAT, WHERE DOES, UH, THAT GROUP STEP IN? SO THAT GROUP WOULD NOT STEP IN ON OUR LANDMARK PROPERTIES.
IT IS PART OF THE COMMISSION'S DUTIES HERE.
BUT IN ORDER FOR YOU AS A COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON LANDMARK STATUS, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE TRAINING, I BELIEVE IS THE WAY IT WORKS.
AND, AND WE GO TO SHIPPO SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE IN A BIND.
YOU KNOW, WE GO TO SHIPPO, WE CALL 'EM UP.
AND, UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE? I THINK DON YEAH.
WHEN I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE, I'VE BEEN TO EVERY MEETING AT SHIPPO, EXCEPT THINK THE LAST ONE.
BUT THEIR, THEIR PHILOSOPHY IS TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND NOT TO STOP PROJECTS.
UH, AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL KIND OF WORK US AROUND SO WE CAN MAKE THINGS WORK.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT COME UP AND SAY IT'S A HISTORIC BUILDING.
WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S GUIDELINES FOR A NEW WING.
AND WE CAN LOOK THOSE UP AT SHIPPO AND WE CAN SEE MM-HMM
SO IT'S A RESOURCE COMMISSIONER WOODS.
I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT IF WE PURSUED HAVING ONE OF OUR LOCAL LANDMARKS GO TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, THEN THE PROFESSIONAL, UH, PERSON WOULD EVALUATE IT AND DO THE WORK TO TAKE IT TO SHIPPO TO BE REVIEWED AND THEN SUBMITTED TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
LIKE CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, THERE'S A HANDFUL WHERE WE HAVE DONE THAT.
THE HOLY CROSS IS ONE THAT THE JORDAN PARK IS, IS THE BUILDINGS IN JORDAN PARK ARE ARE THREE.
UH, THE RANGER STATION AND RANGER STATION BARN OR TWO, AND THEN THE HEART STORE AS WELL.
I THINK THOSE ARE BUSH METHA WASN'T THAT ONE.
WELL, ANOTHER THING TOO WITH, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, CHURCH OF THE RED ROCKS, UM, IT HAS HAD ADDITIONS AND, UH, THE ADDITIONS AREN'T EXACT, BUT THERE'S QUESTIONS.
THE REGISTRY OF PIONEER PEOPLE THAT FOUNDED THAT CHURCH ARE QUITE EXTENSIVE.
THEY'RE WELL KNOWN, PIONEER PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S, I LISTED SOME OF THEM ON THE SURVEY.
DO WE GO WITH THAT? THESE ARE SPECIAL PEOPLE.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE ON THE FORMS THAT WE USE, THEY SAY SURVEY SITE NUMBER.
WHAT, WHAT, WHERE ARE WE COUNTING FROM ON SURVEY SITES FROM MY START HERE? OR DO WE TAKE THE ONES THAT ARE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY WE HAVE SO FAR.
AND WE WOULD JUST ONCE JUST CONTINUE FROM THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE GONNA DO IT ONCE.
I WOULD, I WOULD'VE LOVE STAFF TO ANSWER THAT ONE.
I COULD, I HAVE THE FULL BANK AND BET.
BUT, AND EVEN THINGS LIKE, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THIS, WE WOULD PROBABLY VERIFY THE ZONING.
IF THERE'S A SUBDIVISION, WE CAN GET THAT.
SO, UM, KIND OF ON, ON THIS, THE KIND OF THESE BOXES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE.
STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL THAT IN.
AND THIS IS WHERE JACK HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL WITH OKAY.
LOOKING UP A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION.
MY PURPOSE OF HAVING DONE A BUNCH OF THESE 30 YEARS AGO,
'CAUSE IT'S EXPENSIVE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY DOING ALL THESE YES.
FOR CLARIFICATION OR FOR LANDMARK STATUS YES, OF COURSE.
BUT FOR GETTING IT STARTED LIKE THIS, YOU, YOU DON'T, AND GETTING THE HELP, UH, AND OF, AND ABSOLUTELY.
TO GET THE FINAL, UH, EXACT HISTORIC, UH, ASPECTS OF IT.
AND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH OUR CURRENT HISTORIC SURVEY, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, UPDATES AND THEN HAS LIKE THE NAME AND THE DATE AS YOU KNOW, IT STARTS OFF, OFF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WITH COMMISSIONERS AND THEN GOES TO CONSULTANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU'LL SEE MY NAME AND ALL OF THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY TOO, IN, IN, UM, SPEAKING TO WHAT'S THE ROLE OF, OF SHIPPO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING GUIDANCE.
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JUST THE, THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE THEY SHARED AT THE CONFERENCE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THEY REALLY STRESSED AT THE LAST CONFERENCE I WENT TO WAS, UM, REALLY THAT EMPHASIS ON, ON NOT JUST THE ARCHITECTURAL, BUT ON THE HISTORY.LIKE, WHAT'S THE STORY? WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO WHAT KAREN WAS TALKING ABOUT? YOU KNOW, WHY IS CHURCH OF THE RED ROCKS IMPORTANT? WELL, ARCHITECTURALLY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT THE PEOPLE WHO FOUNDED IT, THE, THE ROLE IT'S PLAYED IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS HAS, HAS A ROLE TO PLAY AS WELL.
WHEN, 'CAUSE WE HAVE NOW COMING INTO THE, UH, MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE TWO THOUSANDS, UH, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOW ELIGIBLE TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED FOR LANDMARKS.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO START SAYING WHO IS INVOLVED? WHO IS THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE? IS THIS A, A MOVER AND SHAKER OR JUST ANOTHER OF A DOZEN HOMES? WE HAVE TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO? UH, IS THIS IMPORTANT TO SAVE ARCHITECTURALLY PEOPLE WHO OWNED IT? AND YOU HAVE TO START GETTING KIND OF CAREFUL.
SO THE, THE ONE THING I GOT OUT OF GOING TO A SHIPPO MEETING THAT DEFINES ALL MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, I THINK, AND WAS ENLIGHTENING TO ME, THEY SAID, IF IT'S NOT IN A BINDER, DOESN'T HAVE THREE HOLES.
DOESN'T START WITH A YA DASH AND SOME NUMBERS, IT DOESN'T EXIST.
AND WHAT THEY WERE SAYING WAS, IS IF IT'S NOT ON PAPER, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT UP.
OTHER WORDS, YOU GOTTA GO BACK, LOOK IT UP.
AND THEY WERE JUST BASICALLY, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU START TO, YEAH, IT'S OKAY.
YOU GOTTA GO BACK TO THE BINDER.
IF IT AIN'T THERE, IT DOESN'T EXIST.
WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, IF YOU CAN'T DOCUMENT IT, IT'S NOT THERE THAT IT HAPPENED.
AND THAT ALL CHANGED WITH, UH, THE BARRIO PROJECT THEY DID IN TUCSON.
BECAUSE THEY ENDED UP THE EMPHASIS, AND I THINK THEY PROBABLY GOT IT FROM, UH, OUR LOCAL MUSEUM WAS TELL THE STORIES.
AND SO THEY DID A LOT OF RECORDING.
THEY DIDN'T JUST WRITE IT DOWN.
THEY DID A LOT OF RECORDING FROM PEOPLE WHO KNEW THE HISTORY BECAUSE THE OLD PUEBLO DOWN THERE, THE OLD IN THE BARRIO, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO HISTORY MM-HMM
UNTIL THEY FOUND OUT FROM THESE PEOPLE WHO TOLD THEIR STORIES.
SO, UH, SO THERE'S MORE TO IT NOW.
UH, QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS WHO, WHO DID THE SITE VISITS, UM, THE SIGN FOR THE STAR MOTEL, WOULD THAT BE PART OF UH, YES.
THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT IT'S A COOL SIGN.
THE REASON THAT THAT SIGN IS SO IMPORTANT, IT'S THE ORIGINAL, GRANTED THE TAIL OF THE STAR WENT AWAY IN, WAS IT 88 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK WE FOUND THAT IT WAS NOT RECENT, BUT THEY HAVE KEPT THE ORIGINAL AND ALSO THE SIGN BOARD, UH, BETWEEN THE, UM, END OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S A SIGN THAT'S AN ORIGINAL SIGN TOO, ISN'T IT INTERESTING? WE CAN SEE SOMETHING HIS HISTORIC THAT WE WOULD NOT ALLOW TODAY.
AND WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT TODAY.
BUT, UM, THAT IS REALLY A, A SOMETHING I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD TRY.
AND I'M HOPING THAT, UH, THAT MR. AND MRS WILL WANT TO DO THAT AND MAKE MICHAEL AND HIS WIFE.
I THINK THEY'RE QUITE INTERESTED.
AND, UH, IT'S MORE EXTENSIVE IMPACT USING THE, UH, VANDER HOME AS PART OF IT TOO WAS A, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WELL THERE'S PART OF A HISTORIC HOME THERE, WHICH WAS 1949.
AND IT'S DEFINITELY, WE FIND ONE THAT THEY SAY, LET'S GO FOR IT, LET'S LANDMARK AND THEN TAKE IT TO, YOU KNOW, MORE IN DEPTH SURVEY AND STUDIES MM-HMM
BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, WHAT BOBBY AND I ARE DOING IS GETTING OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, FINDING WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
AND BOBBY'S PHOTOGRAPHS ARE FANTASTIC
UH, THERE'S A LOT WHEN HE'S OUT PHOTOGRAPHING, I'M WRITING FURIOUSLY AND MY, UH, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL
BUT I, YOU CAN TELL I DIDN'T GET 'EM ALL, BUT WELL, YEAH.
BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A CORRECT.
AND IT, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT CORRECT.
SO, UM, YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LIKE, SAY THESE ARE THE, THE FINAL ONES.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB THROUGH AND KIND OF UPDATE AND,
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AND FIX AND WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHO I, I'LL WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHO TYPES UP THE FINAL ONE.YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE GETTING AN ADMIN, BUT WHEN I DON'T, THEY'RE READY.
I MEAN, IF ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANTS TO TYPE IT UP, THAT'D BE GREAT.
LIKE IF IT'S COMPLETE SENTENCES OR IS IT MORE LISTS AND ABBREVIATIONS, LIKE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T ABBREVIATE, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE, WELL, I THINK HOW FILL OUT
LIKE I SAY, WE'VE GOT BOBBY AND I HAVE MORE TO DO.
I'LL, I'LL CONTACT YOU REGARDING, IT'S NOT RIGHT AWAY, BUT THERE ARE FOUR MORE ITEMS THAT I, AND EACH DAY I FIND MORE AND MORE AND I'M GOING, OH GOSH.
AND, AND YOU GUYS GOING OUT THERE AND, AND DOING THE FIELD WORK AND THE LEG WORK AND, AND, UM, IS, IS REALLY GREAT.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED WAS, WAS PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKE UP THAT MANTLE AND GET IT DONE.
AND, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME THAT ARE POSSIBILITIES FOR LANDMARKING, WHICH IS, UM, REALLY EXCITING.
AND I, I HAVE FOUND OUT, UH, THAT LANDMARKING, WHEN THEY SAY, YEAH, LET'S GO FOR IT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
IT IS A LENGTHY, SO THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU GOTTA PROCESS.
THERE IS A, YOU DISCOVER
YOU WANT IT DONE RIGHT? MM-HMM
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? NO GOOD STUFF.
UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION ON POTENTIAL NON-GOVERNMENT FUNDING SOURCES FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SO, UM, THIS CAME UP IN LIGHT OF OUR CONVERSATION LAST MONTH WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE DOGE CUTS, WHICH WERE THEN, UM, UH, CODIFIED BY THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT BEING SIGNED INTO LAW.
UH, WHICH ESSENTIALLY, UH, ELIMINATES FUNDING FOR, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
UH, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS GOT INTO EVERYONE'S HANDS.
UM, THE, THE HANDOUT THERE THAT SAYS PRESERVE AZ AT THE TOP AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WORKSHEET, UH, AS PART OF THE PACKET THERE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT GOT INTO EVERYONE'S HANDS THAT I PICKED UP AT A SESSION AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE LAST, LAST YEAR.
UM, AND SO IT'S PRIVATE, UM, SOURCES OF FUNDING, UM, IF AND WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT WE NEED TO, UM, SEEK OUT FUNDING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE, THE CITY CAN PROVIDE.
UM, EVERYONE'S GOT THIS IN THEIR HANDS NOW.
UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
THERE'S SOME, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN UNDER BUDGET ANYWAY.
I, IT JUST, IN, IN THE CASE OF SOMETHING COMES UP AND WE NEED, NEED TO SEARCH OUT MONEY 'CAUSE THE CITY WANTS TO DO X, Y, OR Z TO ONE OF SOME KIND.
WELL, I'M BEING, I'M BEING A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, SOME OF THOSE WE CAN BE READY AND RARING TO GO.
AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD ON THE LIST THAT, UH, FOR, THERE'S SOME FOR MONEY FOR SMALL TOWNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S LIKE, I'M QUITE EXCITED BY THAT LIST.
UM, AND, AND, UM, I BELIEVE DON, I FORWARDED YOU THE GOOD NEWS EMAIL FROM THE HISTORIC, UH, THE STATE, UM, PRESERVATION FUND OR, UH, WHATEVER RIGHT.
SAYING THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION WAS FUNDED FOR THE YEAR.
SO THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT OUR LAST MEETING.
UM, AND HE FORWARDED IT TO EVERYONE SO EVERYONE SAW THAT.
SO, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION WAS FUNDED, SO THEY AREN'T GOING TO FALL APART NEXT MONTH.
UM, IS IT ENOUGH FUNDING IF WE GET SAY, SEVEN, SIX, UH, PLAQUES THAT WE NEED FUNDING? WELL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNDING.
THE NO HISTORIC PRESERVATION WAS IN, AS YOU'LL RECALL, WAS IN DANGER OF, UM, SHIPPO WAS IN DANGER OF, UH, NOT GETTING FUNDING AND SHUTTING OPERATIONS NEXT MONTH IN AUGUST.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STATEWIDE? YES.
I THOUGHT YOU MEANT, AND SO SHIPPO WAS FUNDED FOR YEAH, I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU MEANT.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT
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WAS IN EVERYBODY'S HANDS AGAIN.UM, I THINK WE DISTRIBUTED IT ONCE BEFORE, BUT JUST MAKE SURE IT'S IN LIGHT OF THAT CONVERSATION.
EVERYONE IS AWARE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE IF WE, IF WE NEED IT.
WELL, AND THE THING IS, UM, SHIPPO AND THE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO US FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS BACK IN EARLY 1990, SHIPPO WAS RIGHT THERE WITH US GUIDING THE WAY.
SO THEY'RE VERY KIND OF COMMITTED TO US IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, TO THAT END, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM, MOVE ON.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. THE NEXT MEETING IS MONDAY, AUGUST 11TH.
UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THIS ONE.
UM, AND I BET YOU GUYS DO TOO, FROM A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH ANOTHER CITY STAFF MEMBER EARLIER TODAY.
UM, BUT, UM, FIRST IS I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF ARIANA, UM, TO CONFIRM, UM, THAT SHE WILL COME AND, AND CHAT WITH US ON AUGUST 11TH.
UM, I REACHED OUT EARLIER THIS MONTH AND SHE WAS OUT OF OFFICE, UM, ON VACATION, REACHED OUT AGAIN AND, UH, HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO, UM, GIVE IT A TRY TOO.
UM, YEAH, WHAT ELSE WOULD WE HAVE? I HAVE HER CARD PROBABLY.
I HAVE A CARD, BUT I FEEL I DIDN'T REALLY GET ENOUGH FACE TO FACE WITH HER TO FEEL REAL COMFORTABLE CALLING HER OUT.
I CAN HER, I WAS THE WOMAN THAT SIGNED HER UP.
SO, UM, SHE, I I SOMETIMES THINK SHE RUNS IT CROSS PURPOSES SOMETIMES, IS WHAT I GET.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE WERE, IN FACT, THAT WAS GONNA BE THE MAIN FOCUS OF OUR AUGUST 11TH MEETING WAS WAS ARIANNA COMING IN.
UM, BUT UH, IN A CONVERSATION I HAD, UH, WITH A STAFF MEMBER EARLIER TODAY.
UM, ARE, ARE YOU GUYS BRINGING THE RANGER STATION? YES.
SO DO YOU WANNA SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, I CAN ONLY SHARE THAT, UM, THAT JUST A HEADS UP.
SO THE OTHER, THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS AT RANGER STATION PARK, WHICH INVOLVE, UM, MOSTLY INTERIOR CHANGES TO THE, THE BARN AND THE HOUSE.
BUT THERE ARE SOME EXTERIOR CHANGES THAT WE'LL NEED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UM, APPROVED BEFORE WE CAN ISSUE PERMITS FOR 'EM.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UM, BUT WE HAVE A PAGE C HAS A WEBSITE.
UM, THERE'S A PAGE CALLED, IT'S IF YOU GO TO SEDONA AZ.GOV/PROJECTS AND THEN UNDER, THERE'S KINDA TWO SECTIONS OF THAT UNDER CITY INITIATED PROJECTS.
WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER INITIATED PROJECTS AND WE HAVE CITY INITIATED PROJECTS.
THERE IS A LINK THERE THAT YOU CAN REVIEW WHAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED FOR, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
IT'S JUST A LIST OF WHAT THEY'RE, UM, THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO MAKE TO THE BARN.
AGAIN, MOST THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONES ARE INTERIOR, BUT THERE ARE SOME EXTERIOR ONES THAT, UM, WE'LL BE BRINGING.
WELL I THINK WE WERE TOLD BY THE CITY THAT WE WERE TO STAY OUT OF THE INTERIOR.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY BRINGING THE EXTERIOR THINGS.
SO YEAH, SO THERE'S A LIST ON THERE ABOUT OF WHAT THEY ARE AND, UM, THAT DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE'VE STARTED THE NOTICING PROCESS.
UM, WE'LL BE GETTING YOU A, A STAFF REPORT AND A SUMMARY OF THAT ON, ON THE SHADE SHELTER.
SHADE SHELTER
WE'VE NEVER HAD INPUT ON THAT.
IN OUR, ON OUR COMMENTS IN THE PAST WAS ALWAYS THAT IT SHOULD BE IN CHARACTER WITH THE BUILDING 'CAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.
WILL THAT BE ON THIS DISCUSSION? I HAVE TO FIRST, UH, QUESTION WHICH SHADE HELTER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE I DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT A SHADE SHELTER OVER BY THE PLAYGROUND.
UM, SO THAT, UH, AND A COUPLE PICNIC TABLES UNDER THERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT, UH, WE, WE TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BE.
UH, YEAH, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IT WOULD STILL BE NICE IF WE COULD DESIGN IN CHARACTER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MAYBE NECESSARY.
I JUST HATE TO SEE A STRETCH NYLON CANOPY OVER A STEEL WHEN WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO HAVE A VIBE FOR THE PARK.
YOU KNOW, WOODEN INSTRUCTOR PAINTED, UH, KIND OF IN THE TIMELINESS OF THE BUILDING.
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AN AGENDA.THIS IS A FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ANYWAY.
SO OFFICIALLY THE CHANGES THE EXTERIOR, THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR CHANGES TO THE BARN AND THE HOUSE WILL BE COMING TO YOU AS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 11TH.
AND THEN WE'LL LET LOOSE
UM, UM, SO THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO THINGS.
AND IF, UM, COMMISSIONER SAK AND COMMISSIONER WOODS ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THEIR SURVEYS, WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A STANDING MEETING, MEETING ITEM.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADD? NO, I'M THINK WE'RE DOING THE WORK WE SHOULD BE DOING.
UM, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I DON'T BELIEVE.
UH, WHICH BRINGS US TO ADJOURNMENT.
WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE AT 4 45 OFFICIAL VERIZON TIME.
WELL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO BOBBY AND JACK FOR THE WORK THEY'VE HELPED.
WE'RE A TRIUMPHANT HERE AND, UH, GETTING THINGS GOING.
SHOULD I LEAVE THAT WITH SOMEBODY THAT, THAT WANT ACCESS OR SOMEBODY WANTS IT? THAT'S, IS THAT THE ONE WE GOT AT THE, AT THE CONFERENCE? I GAVE ONE GRAB THE EXTRA ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT THIS? UH, I.