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OKAY.[1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE]
TO ORDER AT THREE O'CLOCK.MARCY, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR PLU.
[3.a. AB 3215 Discussion/possible direction regarding the needs assessment and strategic plan to address homelessness with a focus on recommendations, including a regionally coordinated plan for addressing homelessness in Sedona and the Verde Valley. ]
ITEM THREE.DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND STRATEGIC PLAN TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS WITH A FOCUS ON RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING A REGIONALLY COORDINATED PLAN FOR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IN SEDONA AND THE VERDE VALLEY.
AND, UH, JEANNIE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO YOU, I WANTED TO JUST SAY, WELCOME TO MAYOR ROBIN PRUDE BAUER FROM CLARKDALE.
NICE TO SEE YOU HERE,
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TODAY WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS FOR SEDONA WITHIN THE VERDE VALLEY CONTEXT.
UH, WHAT WE LEARNED, WHAT'S ALREADY IN MOTION AND SPECIFIC ACTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
THIS EFFORT STEMS FROM COUNCIL'S DIRECTION LAST YEAR TO ENGAGE WITH REGIONAL STAKEHOLDERS AND EXPLORE A COORDINATED APPROACH TO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING INSTABILITY ACROSS THE VERDE VALLEY.
SO OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS, MUNICIPALITIES, LAW, LAW ENFORCEMENT, EMERGENCY SERVICE AGENCIES, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGENCIES, AND OTHER LOCAL PARTNERS TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF NEED AND IDENTIFY SHARED STRATEGIES THAT STRENGTHEN PREVENTION, CRISIS RESPONSE, AND LONG-TERM STABILITY.
SO, WHILE THIS PLAN FOCUSES ON THE IMMEDIATE AND CRISIS ENDS OF THE HOUSING SPECTRUM, IT IS ALSO COMPLEMENTARY TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY'S BALANCED HOUSING PLAN.
IT'S A SPECTRUM FOR WHICH THE, THE CONTRACT FOR THE BALANCED HOUSING PLAN WILL BE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL LATER THAT MONTH, BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED ALONG THE HOUSING SPECTRUM.
THESE TWO EFFORTS TOGETHER, THESE TWO EFFORTS WILL HELP THE CITY TAKE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND COORDINATED APPROACH, CONNECTING THE DOTS BETWEEN HOUSING STABILITY, AFFORDABILITY, AND COMMUNITY WELLBEING.
SO, OUR CONSULTANTS, VM ADVISING, JONATHAN AND MATT WILL PRESENT FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS IN MORE DETAIL.
AND WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S SESSION PER COUNCIL DIRECTION, FROM NOVEMBER 24 AND JANUARY 25, OUR TEAM, TOGETHER WITH VM ADVISING, COMPLETED A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
WE COMPLETED THE RESOURCE MAPPING, REGIONAL STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT IN A PUBLIC FORUM.
AND SO TODAY OUR GOAL IS TO GIVE YOU A CLEAR PREVIEW OF A MENU OF IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS, WHAT PROGRAMS COULD BE CONSIDERED THE SCALE AT WHICH THEY COULD OPERATE, AND THE RESULTS THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE.
YOU WILL SEE A SNAPSHOT OF LOCAL NEED, THE GAPS COMPARED TO AN EFFECTIVE REGIONAL RESPONSE SYSTEM AND SPECIFIC NEAR TERM ACTION ITEMS THAT SEDONA COULD TAKE.
REALISTIC STEPS, WE COULD LEAD OR PILOT LOCALLY WITH INDICATIVE COSTS AND EXPECTED OUTCOMES.
NO APPROVALS ARE REQUESTED TODAY.
WE ARE SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION ONLY ON DIRECT, ON WHICH STRATEGIES YOU WOULD LIKE REFINED AND COSTED IN THE FINAL STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT THEY CAN BE ALIGNED WITH RESOURCES DURING YOUR BUDGET PROCESS.
WE HAVE BUILT IN SOME BRIEF PAUSE POINTS FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
SO ALONG THE WAY, OUR CONSULTANTS WILL STOP AND CHECK IN WITH YOU GUYS TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTING TEAM, JONATHAN DANFORTH AND MATT WHITE OF VM ADVISING TO, TO WALK THROUGH THE FINDINGS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE OPTIONS IN DETAIL.
SO, JEANNIE, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE
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WE BEGIN.YOU WANT US TO WAIT FOR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE, THE, THE CONSULTANT STOPS US AT A CERTAIN POINT AND THEN REQUEST QUESTIONS ON THE COUNCIL? YES.
IF, IF POSSIBLE, IF YOU COULD HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE PAUSE POINTS, THERE WILL BE SEVERAL THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, SO UNLESS YOU REALLY, YOU KNOW, NEED CLARIFICATION RIGHT AWAY.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT TOO.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR HAVING US BACK TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
MATT AND I ARE, UM, EXCITED TO BE KINDA MOVING INTO THIS, THIS LEG OF THE DISCUSSION WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DOES IT REALLY LOOK LIKE TO DO THIS.
AND SO, JEANNIE, YOU ALREADY KIND OF OUTLINED HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE THROUGH OUR DISCUSSION TODAY.
UH, BUT WE'LL DO A LIGHT REVIEW OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH Y'ALL FROM THE, UM, NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT WITH TO YOU IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS WITH THREE LEVELS OF INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA TO CONSIDER AND THEIR POTENTIAL OUTCOMES.
AND WE WANNA WORK THROUGH KINDA AN OUTLINE OF, UH, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE FOR PARTNERING THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND IMPLEMENTING THIS WORK THROUGHOUT THE REGION, AND REALLY GATHER YOUR DIRECTION AS WE FINALIZE THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITSELF.
SO WE ARE GONNA START BY REVIEWING HOW WE GOT HERE, BUT I WANT YOU TO KEEP THIS STRUCTURE IN MIND ABOUT TODAY'S CONVERSATION.
THERE'S REALLY TWO TRACKS TO THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
FIRST, REVIEWING THE NEEDS AND THIS INVESTMENT FRAMEWORK THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND SECOND, LOOKING AT WHAT IMPLEMENTATION COULD MEAN, UH, BOTH AT THE CITY AND REGIONAL LEVEL.
SO I WANNA JUST DRAW US BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND, UH, REMIND COUNSEL AND, AND THE PUBLIC THAT THIS ALL FITS INTO A LARGER PROCESS.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS KINDA WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND, AND WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING NEXT IN THE PROCESS.
AND THE GOAL OF OUR CONVERSATION IS REALLY A DELIBERATE PATH FROM THIS DISCUSSION TO A FINAL REGIONAL PLAN.
UH, WE'RE IN, IN THE FINAL PHASE OF REFINING THAT PLAN.
UM, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BROADER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT'S GONE INTO IT.
AND SO I'LL WALK US THROUGH KIND OF THE HISTORY REAL, REAL FAST.
UM, IN THE FALL OF 2024, WE CAME TO SEDONA AND WE STARTED WITH, UM, PRETTY IN DEPTH LEVEL OF OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.
WE BROUGHT THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING INTO OUR CONVERSATION WITH EARLY INTERVIEWS.
WE MET WITH SOLAR SOLARI, WHO KIND OF MANAGES THE DATA FOR THE STATE ON, UM, HOMELESSNESS AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
WE INTERVIEWED FIRST RESPONDERS, SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND, UM, AND THEN MET WITH COUNSEL TO GATHER INITIAL FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE CITY'S PRIORITIES.
WE CONDUCTED ADDITIONAL ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS WITH Y'ALL'S, UH, BASED ON Y'ALL'S PRIORITIES AND FEEDBACK.
BROUGHT IN ARIZONA COMPLETE HEALTH, WHO I SEE IS HERE TODAY.
UM, HOSTED A JOINT WORKING SESSION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND THE LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE CATHOLIC CHARITIES WHO, WHO JOINED US THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE HERE.
AND, UM, CON GOT YOUR DIRECTION THERE TO CONTINUE ENGAGING.
SO, AND, AND SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY THROUGH RESOURCE MAPPING.
SO WE BROUGHT IN THE, UH, THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH TWO IN ONE IN UNITED WAY IN THE RESOURCE MAPPING EFFORT, WHICH WE'LL OUTLINE A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER IN OUR DISCUSSION TODAY.
WE CAME BACK A COUPLE MONTHS AGO TO DO A COMMUNITY VERDE VALLEY WIDE CONVERSATION TO GET INPUT ABOUT, UM, THE PRIORITIES OF, UH, THE, THOSE DOING THE WORK ON THE GROUND AND SURVEYED THOSE PRIORITIES.
SO WE STARTED TO INCORPORATE THAT IN OUR PLANNING AND THAT BROUGHT US TO OUR ENGAGEMENT TODAY.
THIS MORNING WE HELD A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WITH SEDONAS PUBLIC, UM, WHERE WE HAD 68 PARTICIPANTS, UH, AND HAD A REALLY VALUABLE REFLECTION OF, UM, THE, THE, OF, OF THE PRIORITIES FOR THE FOLKS WHO ATTENDED.
YOU'LL SEE THE HANDOUT THAT WE PREPARED WITH A BRIEF REPORT OF, UH, THIS MORNING'S ENGAGEMENT.
AND I THINK, UH, I WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY JUST GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS WITH Y'ALL,
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BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU CAN EXPECT WHEN YOU REVIEW THIS REPORT.UM, YOU'LL SEE, UM, YOU'LL SEE WHAT ARE RESIDENTS SEEING WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS.
YOU'LL SEE WHAT DO THEY FEEL IS CONTRIBUTING TO HOUSING INSTABILITY, WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS AND WHAT ARE THEY HOPING TO SEE FROM THE CITY? AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A BREAKDOWN FROM, OF WHAT THEY VOTED WERE THE MOST PRESSING QUESTIONS.
SO WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS.
WE RESPONDED TO THESE QUESTIONS IN THE FORUM, UH, BUT THIS KIND OF GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF A BLUEPRINT FOR WHERE THEIR, THEIR MINDS ARE AT AS FAR AS WHAT'S, UH, MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO ADDRESS.
AND FROM THIS INFORMATION, WE HAVE SUMMARIZED THE TAKEAWAYS THAT WE FEEL ARE PRETTY ALIGNED WITH THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN GOING WITH THIS PLAN.
WHEN WE GET TO QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO BREAK THIS DOWN AND TALK THROUGH IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, UM, GO INTO THAT MUCH DETAIL FOR, FOR THIS PURPOSE HERE.
SO HOW DOES THIS ALL FIT IN TODAY? WELL, TODAY'S DISCUSSION SETS THE DIRECT DIRECTION FOR OUR NEXT STEPS, AND, UM, AGAIN, WE WILL REFINE WHAT GOES INTO OUR FINAL STRATEGIC PLAN.
UH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET TO A DECISION TODAY, UH, LOOKING REALLY FOR FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION AND A FOUNDATION FOR, UH, KIND OF FUNDING CONSIDERATIONS FOR US TO BE RECOMMENDING AS WE FLESH OUT THE FINAL DETAILS.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO MATT TO GIVE US A, OH, I'M SORRY, WITH THAT OF MINE, I'LL PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO MATT, WHO WILL GO DO A, DO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO KIND OF RE-SEED US IN THE DATA.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS YOU MENTIONED 68 PARTICIPANTS THIS MORNING.
DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER? IF YOU TAKE OUT COUNSEL AND STAFF FROM THAT, OF HOW MANY DO WE HAVE FROM THE COMMUNITY? I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER PREPARED, BUT I THINK WE COULD ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER BASED ON OUR SIGN IN SHEET AND GET IT TO YOU.
ALRIGHT, THEN I'LL PASS IT ON TO MATT TO PROCEED WITH OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT OVERVIEW.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, COUNCIL, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE BACK.
I'M GONNA SHARE VERY QUICKLY SOME FOUNDATIONAL NUMBERS THAT MIGHT LOOK SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM IN THE PAST, BUT I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL AS CONTEXT AS WE START TO DIG INTO THE, TO THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
FIRST, WE LOOK AT A POINT IN TIME COUNT AS A WAY TO GAUGE THE EXTENT AND THE SCOPE OF HOMELESSNESS.
UM, ON THE SLIDE HERE, IT SAYS, IT INDICATES 41 DISCREET INDIVIDUALS WERE ENCOUNTERED AND COUNTED IN THE FEDERALLY MANDATED POINT IN TIME COUNT THAT TAKES PLACE THE END OF JANUARY EACH YEAR, THERE'S A LOT OF RECONCILIATION AND QUALITY CHECKING OF THAT NUMBER, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN UPDATED.
UM, AND THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS JUST IN THE PAST WEEKS ACTUALLY REFLECT 64 PEOPLE WHO WERE ENCOUNTERED AND ENCOUNTERED.
THIS REPRESENTS SINGLE INDIVIDUALS, PERSONS IN COUPLES, CHILDREN, UH, ALL PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS, UM, WHO ARE, UM, EITHER, UH, UNSHELTERED, CAMPING OUTSIDE, SLEEPING IN A CAR, OR, UM, STAYING IN AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.
A FACILITY DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING A HOUSING CRISIS, EITHER A SHELTER OR A VOUCHER AT A MOTEL THAT'S DESIGNED AS A TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS.
THAT NUMBER, IF WE EXPANDED AND LOOK EXPERIENTIALLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, IS ABOUT 600 INDIVIDUALS WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS, UM, AGAIN IN, UH, INCLUDING SINGLE ADULTS, PERSONS AND FAMILIES CHILDREN.
UM, AND THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE VERDE VALLEY, THAT IS THE, UM, COUNT BASED ON PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING, UH, SERVICES AT FOOD BANKS WHO ARE ENCOUNTERED BY FIRST RESPONDERS, BY POLICE, BY OUTREACH TEAMS, UM, WHO ARE, UH, ON FOREST SERVICE LAND AND ENCOUNTERED BY FOREST SERVICE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.
AND, UH, AND WE'VE SORT OF CHECKED WITH ALL OF THESE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, LIBRARY STAFF, UM, OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE GAUGE OF 600 REFLECTS THE PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ENCOUNTERING, UH, INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING A HOUSING CRISIS AND HEARD CONTINUALLY THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, THAT THAT NUMBER FEELS DEFENSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY INTERACTING AND, AND HELPING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSING RESOLUTION.
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TELL US ENOUGH TO BE PLANFUL AND INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.IT'S JUST THE SORT OF GROSS NUMBER.
SO WE WANNA DRILL DOWN EVEN FURTHER AND START TO PEEL BACK THE LAYERS OF WHAT ARE THE EXPERIENCES OF THOSE 600 PEOPLE AND HOW DO WE ORGANIZE INTERVENTIONS AND SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE UNIQUELY EQUIPPED TO HELP PEOPLE RESOLVE THEIR HOUSING CRISIS.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE START TO BREAK DOWN THAT 600 NUMBER INTO TOPOLOGIES OF HOMELESSNESS.
THE FIRST GROUP, AND THESE ARE ALL DEFINED INITIALLY ANYWAY, BY THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS, THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS.
UM, SO UNDER THREE MONTHS REPRESENTS THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS.
60% OF PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS LESS THAN 90 DAYS OR LESS.
UM, THAT TYPICALLY IS A ONE-TIME CRISIS THAT FORCES SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY IN A HOUSING DISTRESSED OR A DISABLED, UH, UH, UH, UH, HOUSING, UM, UH, TENUOUS POSITION TO ACTUALLY, UH, LOSE THEIR HOUSING AND BECOME LITERALLY HOMELESS.
UM, BUT MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO RE TO SELF RESOLVE AND RETURN BACK TO, UH, SELF-SUFFICIENCY.
THE NEXT GROUP, UH, REPRESENTS THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS LONGER THAN THREE MONTHS, BUT NOT QUITE A YEAR.
AND THIS IS CHARACTERIZED BY EPISODIC SPELLS OR PERIODS OF INSTABILITY WHERE THEY MIGHT BE HOMELESS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, ABLE TO NEGOTIATE TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATION WITH FAMILY OR FRIENDS THAT WEARS THEN, THEN THEY'RE BACK OUT ON THE STREETS, STAYING IN THEIR CAR, UM, WHILE THEY NEGOTIATE EITHER FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS TO MOVE BACK IN WITH FAMILY OR FRIENDS.
SO THIS SORT OF VERY, UH, EPISODIC BACK AND FORTH IS FURTHER DESTABILIZING AND IF NOT ADDRESSED, PEOPLE THEN PROGRESS TO THE THIRD TOPOLOGY, WHICH IS CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
THAT CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS REPRESENTS JUST 10% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION.
BUT OVER TIME, UM, THE EXPERIENCE OF SEDONA CITIZENS AND OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT TENDS TO BE MORE LIKELY WHO YOU WOULD ENCOUNTER, WHO YOU WOULD SEE ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEIR PERIOD OF HOMELESSNESS IS SO MUCH LONGER THAN THE TRANSITIONAL OR THE EPISODIC GROUP.
AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS FOR OVER A YEAR AND HAVE A DISABILITY, SOME KIND OF DISABLING CONDITION, A MENTAL ILLNESS, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITION.
WE FURTHER LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN IN THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THESE GROUPS.
AND AGAIN, THIS HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO FORMULATE A RESPONSE WHEN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE FOR THAT TRANSITIONALLY HOMELESS GROUP, ALTHOUGH IT'S THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS, UM, IT'S IN SOME WAYS THE, THE MODEST AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT OR THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, AND THE LIGHTEST TOUCH IN TERMS OF HELPING TO RESOLVE THEIR CRISIS.
AS I SAID, THESE ARE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING A ONE-TIME CRISIS THAT SORT OF PULLS THEM INTO FURTHER HOUSING INSTABILITY.
UM, THEY'RE ABLE, IN MANY CASES TO RESOLVE INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT INTENSIVE ASSISTANCE.
UM, THEY'RE A MIXTURE OF BOTH LIFELONG RESIDENTS OF SEDONA AND NEW RESIDENTS WHO'VE RECENTLY RELOCATED EITHER FOR EMPLOYMENT OR, UM, FOR OTHER, UH, REASONS.
ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER AND LANDSCAPE OF YOUR SEDONA REGION.
UM, BUT MANY OF THEM ARE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT OR SEEKING JOBS.
UM, AND IF THAT EMPLOYMENT SITUATION IS NOT SECURE AND DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INCOME TO MANAGE A BRIEF SPELLS OF, UH, OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND END UP FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS.
THAT'S THE TRANSITIONAL HOMELESS GROUP.
AND AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S THE LARGEST GROUP.
THE NEXT ONE, EPISODIC LAYERS ON ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS OF THE FIRST GROUP, THE TRANSITIONAL, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS IS EXACERBATING CONDITIONS THAT WERE LIKELY ALREADY PRESENT.
SO A MENTAL ILLNESS IS COMPLICATED BY PERIODS OF INSTABILITY.
UM, UH, UH, ADDICTION ISSUES ARE COMPLICATED BY NOT HAVING A SAFE PLACE TO GO.
AND SO IT, ALL OF THESE OTHER ISSUES, ADDICTION, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, PHYSICAL HEALTH ISSUES, LEGAL ISSUES ARE MUCH HARDER TO RESOLVE WHEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A, A, UM, A STABLE, SAFE HOUSING LOCATION THAT THEY CAN RETURN TO IN THAT EPISODIC GROUP, IF NOT ARRESTED.
WHAT PEOPLE WILL DO IS SORT OF GRADUATE OR AGE INTO THE FINAL GROUP, WHICH IS THE GROUP WE CALL CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
THIS IS AN OFFICIAL FEDERAL DESIGNATION THAT REQUIRES A YEAR OF HOMELESSNESS, EITHER IN ONE SORT OF, UH, EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, OR MULTIPLE SPELLS OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD THAT EQUAL ONE YEAR AND A DISABLING CONDITION.
SO EVERYONE IN THIS CHRONIC GROUP HAS A DISABLING CONDITION, A MENTAL ILLNESS, A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITION, AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT DISABLING CONDITION IS
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UNTREATED.SO IT'S CONTINUING TO WORSEN OR GET, UH, MORE ACUTE WHILE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
THOSE PROFILES, AS I SAID, INFORM HOW WE BEGIN TO STRUCTURE RESPONSES.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SORT OF DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TOPOLOGY ORGANIZATION.
BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, DEREK, UH, WHERE DO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PASSING THROUGH TOWN, WHERE DO YOU CATEGORIZE THEM? WE CATEGORIZE THEM IN THE TRANSITIONAL GROUP.
SHORT PERIODS OF HOMELESSNESS, MANY ABLE TO RESOLVE INDEPENDENTLY, SOME NOT, BUT IN TRANSITIONAL HOMELESS.
UM, THE 600 YOU BROKE DOWN IN THE THREE CATEGORIES, AND THAT'S A REGIONAL NUMBER, AND I, I GET WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS REGIONALLY BECAUSE LIKE ANYBODY, PEOPLE MOVE AROUND AND SEEK SERVICES OR COUCH SURF OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING IN PLACES.
BUT I DO WANNA FOCUS ON THE 41, THE POINT IN TIME NUMBER FOR A SECOND ONLY BECAUSE IT, IT, IT'S A CONCRETE SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH IN A POINT OF TIME.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, OF THOSE 41 IN SEDONA, HOW MANY OF THOSE, DO YOU HAVE A WAY, AND I KNOW IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING, BUT OF ESTIMATING HOW MANY OF THOSE MIGHT BE IN THE CHRONIC CATEGORY? YEAH, I THINK IT'S EXACTLY THE RIGHT QUESTION TO BE ASKING.
AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, UM, WE'VE UPDATED THE NUMBERS AND I APOLOGIZE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBERS.
SO 64 ARE THE POINT IN TIME COUNT OF SEDONA RESIDENTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD APPLY THOSE SAME PERCENTAGES.
60% OF THAT 64 ARE TRANSITIONALLY HOMELESS.
UH, THEN I THINK IT'S 30% ARE EPISODIC AND 20%, 10%, 10% ARE, UH, ARE CHRONIC.
SO JUST BREAKING IT DOWN ACCORDING TO THAT TOPOLOGY, UH, RATIO.
SO DOING THE MATH, THAT'S 38, 19 AND SIX, AND I ROUNDED AND SKIPPED ONE.
SO MY MATH DIDN'T QUITE WORK, BUT IT WAS ONLY ONE, ONE PERSON DIDN'T HEAR YOUR MATH SUPPOSED TO WORK.
WELL, I COULD HAVE GIVEN YOU DECIMAL PEOPLE, BUT THAT DIDN'T SOUND RIGHT EITHER.
UM, COUNSELOR FAF JUST ASKED ABOUT WHAT WOULD, HOW'D YOU REFER TO THEM, DEREK? JUST PASSING THROUGH.
I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF US BEFORE, WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DRIFTERS AND DRIFTERS MM-HMM
SO NOT JUST PASSING THROUGH, BUT PROFESSIONAL PANHANDLER, THAT SORT OF THING THAT ARE INTENTIONALLY LONG TERM, UH, HOMELESS.
AND DID THEY NOT, DID, DID WE NOT WIND UP HEARING THAT THEY'RE REALLY SORT OF A GROUP FOUR AND THEY'RE JUST NOT PART OF THIS TYPOLOGY, ESSENTIALLY? I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
WE DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST ON THE STREET.
SOME OF THEM, WHAT THEY CALL FLYING A SIGN, UM, PANHANDLING.
THEY DID NOT, IN MANY CASES, NOT ALL, BUT IN MANY CASES, THEY DON'T IDENTIFY AS HOMELESS.
THEY'RE NOT SEEKING ASSISTANCE.
UM, THEY'RE NOT, UM, UH, PART OF THE, THE SORT OF LITERALLY HOMELESS, UM, DISTRESSED, UH, UH, TAXING PUBLIC SYSTEMS POPULATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS CASE.
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY ARE, BUT I THINK IT BLURS AND IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE THESE POPULATIONS TEND TO BLUR.
UM, EQUALLY, JUST TO COMPLICATE IT EVEN FURTHER, WITHIN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING LITERAL HOMELESSNESS, THERE'S SORT OF THIS ADJACENT BLURRED POPULATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HOMELESS, WHO HAVE A PLACE TO GO, BUT THEY MIGHT BE ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH HOMELESSNESS.
UM, SO THEY HAVE AN APARTMENT OR THEY HAVE, UH, A REGULAR PLACE WHERE THEY ARE SLEEPING AT NIGHT, BUT THEY'RE EN ENGAGED IN, UM, DRUG TRAFFICKING OR THERE'S, UH, OTHER KINDS OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAT THEY MIGHT BE INVOLVED WITH.
AND THIS GETS BLURRED WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS, AS DELIBERATE AS POSSIBLE AS LOOKING AT JUST PEOPLE EXPERIENCING LITERAL HOMELESSNESS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH IT BLURS INTO THESE OTHER ADJACENT POPULATIONS THAT AREN'T THE PURVIEW OF OUR, OF OUR WORK.
SO YOU CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, OUT OF YOUR 64 POINT IN TIME, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE GRIFTERS AND DRIFTERS? NO, NO, NO.
64 R THEY CANNOT BE COUNTED UNLESS THEY QUALIFY AS LITERAL HOMELESS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO SLEEP OR THEY'RE IN A SHELTER, OR THEY'RE SLEEPING IN A CAR.
THAT IS THE, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE LITERAL HOMELESS POPULATION.
MATT, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU TALK TO TO ARRIVE AT THESE NUMBERS? SO JUST TRYING TO GET THE, WHAT'S YOUR SAMPLE SIZE? YEAH,
UM, IT OVER TIME, I WOULD GUESS, I DON'T KNOW.
I FEEL I I I SHOULD HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
I WOULD SAY 50 WE'D, WE WENT TO, UM, UH,
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EMERGENCY SHELTER FACILITIES IN COTTONWOOD AND PROBABLY SAW 30 PEOPLE THERE.UM, WE WERE, THERE WAS A COFFEE SHOP THAT WAS TEMPORARILY OPEN.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AVAILABLE ANYMORE.
IT WAS LIKE A DROP-IN CENTER AND THERE WERE AT LEAST EIGHT OR MAYBE A DOZEN PEOPLE THERE.
UM, WE ENCOUNTERED PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE WHOLE FOODS.
UM, WE SAW PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND WOULD JUST STOP AND CHAT WITH THEM IN PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT YEAH, WE SHADOWED CATHOLIC CHARITIES STREET OUTREACH TEAM AND ENGAGED WITH THEM.
VINCENT D. PAUL FOOD DISTRIBUTION AT ELSEWHERE AT THE SEDONA FOOD BANK.
I WAS CURIOUS, AND I, THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ON MY MIND SINCE THIS MORNING'S PRESENTATION.
HOW CAN YOU GET AN ACCURATE NUMBER FOR SEDONA OF 64? WHERE'S THAT DATA FROM? AND YET THE 600 REPRESENTS THE VERDE VALLEY.
THERE IS A PRECISE TOOL AND A METHODOLOGY THAT'S USED FOR THE POINT IN TIME COUNT HUD, THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT PRESCRIBES THAT PROCESS AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A TOOL AND A PROTOCOL THAT THEY FOLLOW.
THEY HAVE TO MEET SPECIFIC SPECIFICATIONS IN ORDER TO BE COUNTED IN THAT PROCESS.
SO THAT'S THE, THE NUMBER THAT ANSWERED YES, OR MEET THAT DESIGN MET THAT DESIGNATION FOR LITERAL HOMELESSNESS IN SEDONA.
THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE EXTENT AND SCOPE OF HOMELESSNESS REGIONALLY SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO RESPOND TO THE PROBLEM REGIONALLY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE USING A COMBINATION OF REQUESTS FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE, UM, UTILIZATION OF SHELTER PROGRAMS, UH, CHECKING WITH FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUTREACH TEAMS ON THEIR UTILIZATION AND THEIR SORT OF ENROLLMENT, UH, THEIR BY NAME LIST.
AND THAT NUMBER, THAT PROCESS IS HOW WE CAME TO THE 600 NUMBER, WHICH WE THEN TESTED AND VERIFIED.
WE WENT BACK TO THOSE SAME GROUPS AND SAID, WE THINK THE NUMBER IS 600.
AND THEY, THROUGH CONVERSATION, AGREED THAT THAT WAS A DEFENSIBLE NUMBER.
AND SO WHO DOES THE POINT IN TIME COUNTING? IT'S A VOLUNTEER EFFORT COORDINATED BY THE LCEH, THE LOCAL COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IS, UH, MANAGED AT LEAST INITIALLY BY CATHOLIC CHARITIES, BUT INVOLVES, UH, AN ARRAY OF VOLUNTEERS INCLUDING POLICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUTREACH TEAMS, UM, LIBRARY STAFF, FOOD BANKS.
ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT COUNT.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? MM-HMM
I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
SO, UM, WE HAVE SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH PROVIDES MEALS, AND WE HAVE, UM, MEALS ON WHEELS AS WELL AS MEALS IN HOUSE.
WE HAVE THE FOOD BANK, WE HAVE THE SEDONA FOOD BANK.
VINCENT DE PAUL, WHICH IS OUT OF ST.
SO WHEN YOU'VE BEEN DOING THESE COUNTS, DO THOSE SERVICES, WHICH ARE IN MANY WAYS OUR PRIMARY SERVICES HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UN HOMED IN TRANSITION? UM, UN HOMED, CHRONIC AND UN HOMED, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR MIDDLE ONE.
SO DO, DO THEY KNOW THOSE BREAKDOWNS AND DO THEY SEE PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND WHO'S SHIFTING BETWEEN THOSE? UM, AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO'S DOING ANY KIND OF NO WRONG DOOR, UM, UH, SORT OF GATHERING OF INFORMATION AND WHATEVER AT THOSE POINTS? MM-HMM
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
UM, WHEN WE WENT TO FOOD PANTRIES AND FOOD DISTRIBUTION SITES, WE LOOKED AT THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.
SO PATRONS WHO ARE COMING IN SEEKING ASSISTANCE REGISTER, AND THEY TAKE VERY MINIMAL INFORMATION FROM THEM, BUT IMPORTANTLY, UH, WHERE THEY'RE PHYSICALLY LOCATED AND IF THEY HAVE, UM, A PLACE OR A WAY TO MANAGE FOOD THAT NEEDS TO BE REFRIGERATED OR NEEDS TO BE PREPARED.
SO OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE, I MEAN, THEY CAN'T, UNLESS THEY HAVE A GENERATOR, UM, WHICH NOT MANY PEOPLE DO.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA REQUEST THE PERISHABLE FOOD.
THEY NEED FOOD THAT CAN, UM, THAT THEY CAN KEEP WITH THEM.
SO THAT WAS USEFUL INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND THE RATE OF LITERAL HOMELESSNESS AMONG PEOPLE SEEKING FOOD ASSISTANCE.
UM, WE VERIFIED THAT SORT OF BREAKDOWN OF THE, UH, 60 30 10 WITH THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION FOLKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE
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VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE JUST LOST A JOB DOWN ON THEIR LUCK.UM, THEY'RE SHAMEFULLY, UM, BUT GRATEFULLY ASKING FOR HELP, UM, AND THEY SAID, YES, THAT DESCRIBES THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING THROUGH.
UM, AND ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WOULD BE IN THAT CHRONIC CATEGORY.
SO THAT VERIFIED WHAT OUR ESTIMATION WAS IN TERMS OF THE TOPOLOGY BREAKDOWN.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION IS REALLY A CRITICAL PIECE AS A SORT OF FRONT DOOR OR ACCESS POINT TO BEGIN TO ENGAGE PEOPLE, UM, WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND, AND SORT OF THROUGH ASSESSMENT CHART, A PATHWAY TO HOUSING RESOLUTION.
UM, THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS IS REALLY JUST FOOD DISTRIBUTION, BUT THEY PLAY SUCH A CRITICAL ROLE IN HELPING TO UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T JUST PROVIDE FOOD, WE ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF HOUSING.
WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE EMPLOYMENT NEEDS.
WE HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES.
THERE'S PHYSICAL HEALTH ISSUES.
THERE'S A LOT OF, OF FAMILY DYNAMICS AND, AND COUNSELING THAT, THAT PEOPLE WOULD BENEFIT FROM.
AND THEY'RE SEEING THAT FROM SORT OF LIKE THAT VERY FRONT DOOR ACCESS POINT, THE COMPLEX ISSUES.
THEIR PRIMARY INTEREST IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE NUTRITION THEY NEED, BUT THERE WOULD BE A V AN INVALUABLE FRONT DOOR ACCESS POINT, UH, TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED TO ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE GONNA HELP THEM RESOLVE.
WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT MY QUESTION WAS, DO OUR SERVICES TODAY ALREADY DO THAT? OR IS THAT A GAP IN WHAT WE HAVE? LIKE, THERE ISN'T ANYONE DOING THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES KIND OF THING AT THOSE POINTS, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT EXISTS AT A VERY, UH, AT ELEMENTAL LEVEL, AND IT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED AND STRENGTHENED, AND IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, UH, MADE MORE CONSISTENT AND UNIFORM IN THE WAY IN WHICH THAT ENGAGEMENT, THAT ASSESSMENT PROCESS WORKS.
UM, SO THEY COULD BE AN EFFECTIVE, UH, FRONT DOOR OR ACCESS POINT, BUT THE STRUCTURE AND THE TOOLS AND THE CONSISTENCY OF THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS IS NOT IN EXISTENCE CURRENTLY.
AND, UM, FOR ANYONE HERE FROM HOPE HOUSE, I APOLOGIZE, I LEFT YOU OUT INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE YOU HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT TODAY THAT YOU, UM, HAVE THE, YOUR DOOR ALREADY ALLOWS PEOPLE IN TO ALL THE OTHER SERVICES.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING MENTIONED HOPE HOUSE, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS INTERESTED IN THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE.
THERE WAS A WOMAN FROM THE COUNTY AT THE MEETING THIS MORNING.
SO, SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I'D LIKE TO REVISIT VICE MAYOR VOLT'S EARLIER.
UM, SO 68 PEOPLE, 68 RESPONDENTS.
IF WE SUBTRACT COUNSEL AND STAFF, WE COME UP WITH 53 CITIZENS.
SO BASED ON THOSE PROFILES, THOSE TYPOLOGIES, WE CAN BEGIN TO EXPLORE HOW TO RESPOND IN SOME POSSIBLE ACTIONS.
THERE ARE SOME BASIC BUILDING BLOCKS THAT I FIRST WANTED TO DEFINE AND USE LANGUAGE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR ALL OF US JUST TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AN EFFECTIVE REGIONAL RESPONSE HAS SOME COMMON ELEMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THAT KIND OF FOUNDATIONAL THAT, THAT SAFETY NET.
CRISIS HOUSING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SINGLE FIXED FACILITY.
YOU CAN PROVIDE CRISIS HOUSING BY OFFERING PEOPLE MOTEL VOUCHERS, UM, OR OTHER OPTIONS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPLORED AND, AND DECIDED NOT TO, UH, UM, TO PURSUE SAFE PARKING OR OTHER ARRANGEMENTS, MAYBE, UM, UH, INTERIM HOUSING ARRANGEMENTS.
SO THERE'S AN ARRAY OF OPTIONS WITHIN THAT CRISIS HOUSING CATEGORY.
THE SECOND ONE THAT WE REFER TO AS SOMETHING CALLED RAPID REHOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE LITERALLY HOMELESS VERY QUICKLY, RESOLVING THE CRISIS AND SPEED IS REALLY THE FOCUS HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
GETTING PEOPLE IN A HOME-LIKE SETTING, UM, THAT RESTORES A BIT OF DIGNITY AND PROVIDES A FOUNDATION FOR THEM TO BEGIN TO KIND OF REBUILD THEIR LIVES.
AND THAT RE THAT RAPID REHOUSING APPROACH, UM, REQUIRES ACCESSING AVAILABLE RENTAL UNITS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH MODEST AMOUNTS OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO BOTH SECURE THE UNIT AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT THE HOUSEHOLD IS ABLE TO TAKE OVER THE RENT RESPONSIBILITY EVENTUALLY PAIRED WITH THAT RAPID REHOUSING APPROACH IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE ENGAGE AND SUPPORT LANDLORDS, UM,
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SO THAT THEY'RE, UM, PART OF THE SOLUTION.AND THAT COULD INCLUDE A HOLD FEES OR, UH, A RISK MITIGATION FUND IF THERE'S DAMAGE TO THE UNIT BEYOND THE SECURITY DEPOSIT TO ENSURE THAT PROPERTY MANAGERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE ASSURANCES THAT THEIR PROPERTY IS GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY'RE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE AS THIS IS PART OF THE SAFETY NET OR PART OF THE, THE HOUSING RESOLUTION STRATEGY.
THE NEXT GROUP IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AND THIS IS DESIGNATED FOR THAT CHRONIC GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LONG-TERM NEEDS AND, UH, LONG-TERM DISABILITY.
UM, AND IT IS A PERMANENT SUBSIDY PAIRED WITH SERVICES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THAT HOUSING.
AS LONG AS THAT PERSON IS IN THAT HOUSING, THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE COUNSELING OR THE SUPPORT OR THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO, UM, TO JUST LIVE THEIR LIFE.
UM, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE INTERVENTION, BUT IT'S DESIGNATED FOR THAT, THAT SMALLER PROPORTION, THAT 10% OF THE CHRONIC POPULATION.
FLEX FUND IS, IN FACT, THE, THE NAME IS INSTRUCTIVE.
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS.
IT'S A POOL OF RESOURCES THAT CAN BE USED IN INNOVATIVE WAYS TO RESOLVE WHATEVER THE CRISIS IS THAT'S PREVENTING THE HOUSEHOLD FROM, UH, MOVING ONTO HOUSING STABILITY ON THEIR OWN.
SOMETIMES, UH, THEY JUST NEED DOCUMENTATION SO THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR A JOB OR FOR HOUSING, AND SO THEY HAVE TO SEND AWAY FOR A BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR AN APPLICATION FEE FOR HOUSING IS COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THEM.
THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, THE DIS THE DISPOSABLE, UH, UH, FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO PAY THAT.
SO A FLEX FUND IS INTENTIONALLY SMALL AMOUNTS OF ASSISTANCE THAT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT IN HELPING PEOPLE TO ACCELERATE THEIR EXIT OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
AND THEN FINALLY, ALSO PART OF THIS, UH, REGIONAL EFFORT ARE TEAMS OF CLINICAL TRAINED STAFF WHO PROVIDE OUTREACH, WHO ARE GOING OUT INTO, ONTO THE LAND, UM, ENCOUNTERING PEOPLE AND, UH, WITH THE KINDS OF STRATEGIES AND TECHNIQUES THAT ARE MOST SUCCESSFUL AT ENGAGING AND CONNECTING PEOPLE TO TREATMENT OR TO EMPLOYMENT OR OTHER RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.
UM, BUT THE, THE IDEA IS THAT THE SERVICES GO TO THEM RATHER THAN PEOPLE HAVING TO COME TO, UH, A CITY OFFICE OR, UH, A PUBLIC PLACE IN ORDER TO ENGAGE AND ENROLL AND GET THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.
SO IT'S A VERY FLEXIBLE CLIENT-CENTERED APPROACH.
AND THOSE OUTREACH TEAMS TYPICALLY ARE OUT IN THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGING AND CONNECTING PEOPLE.
SO WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE INTERVENTIONS AND START TO BUILD A PICTURE OF HOW WE PACKAGE THEM, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OR SORT OF THE TITRATING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF INTERVENTION, UM, OR INVESTMENT BASED ON THE OBJECTIVE OF SERVING AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO JUST POUR INTO, UM, UH, A, UM, A NEW, A, A TOTALLY NEW INTERVENTION.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE STARTS TO LOOK AT HOW EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS, UM, MIGHT SERVE A DIFFERENT ROLE.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THROUGH THE, THE RESOURCE MAPPING, UM, WHAT OF EACH OF THESE RESOURCES EXISTS CURRENTLY IN AN OPTIMAL SYSTEM WHERE ALL 600 ACROSS THE ENTIRE VERDE VALLEY REGION WOULD HAVE A CONNECTION TO SOME KIND OF INTERVENTION.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF THAT? AND THEN JUST HELPING US EXPLORE HOW TO PACKAGE AND KIND OF ORGANIZE THESE IN A, IN A, UM, IN SORT OF A, A, A COORDINATED, ALIGNED WAY.
UM, CRISIS HOUSING, THERE IS VERY LIMITED RESOURCES FOR CRISIS HOUSING CURRENTLY.
UM, IN ORDER TO MEET THE, UH, THE DEMAND TO OFFER CRISIS HOUSING TO ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY 80 TO 90 UNITS OF ADDITIONAL CRISIS BEDS.
IT DOESN'T, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FIXED FACILITY.
COULD BE VOUCHERS THAT ARE, UH, TEMPORARY MOTEL USE, UM, OTHER FORMS OF INTERIM HOUSING.
UM, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE GAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN ORDER TO MEET, UM, THE NEED OF THE 600 AND ACHIEVE THAT OPTIMAL STATUS THAT WE NEED WHERE PEOPLE ARE, UH, NOT EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.
AND THE SYSTEM IS ABLE TO RESPOND AND QUICKLY HELP PEOPLE RESOLVE IN TERMS OF RAPID REHOUSING, THE OPTIMAL SYSTEM WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, UH, ON TOP OF THE ALREADY 100 UNITS OF RAPID REHOUSING THAT, UH, CITY WAS ABLE TO RECONFIGURE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE.
UH, AND THOSE RESOURCES ARE, I THINK, ARE JUST NOW HITTING, UM, THE STREET.
UM, AND SO THOSE RAPID REHOUSING RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT OF, UH, RESOURCES TO SERVE 80 MORE HOUSEHOLDS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, 40 TO 50 DEDICATED UNITS REGIONALLY FOR ALL PEOPLE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
THE FLEX FUND THERE ARE, IN ALL OF THE SITES THAT WE WENT, CHURCHES, UH, FOOD
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PANTRIES, UH, DROP-IN CENTERS, EVERYONE AND EVEN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS SAID THEY WILL REACH INTO THEIR OWN POCKET, OR THEY HAVE THE VERY CREATIVE, UH, INNOVATIVE WAYS OF FINDING THE RESOURCES WHEN THAT'S REALLY ALL IT TAKES IS JUST $40 TO PAY THE APPLICATION FEE FOR A NEW UNIT.UM, SO THOSE FLEX FUNDS ALREADY EXIST, BUT NOT AT THE SCALE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IN AN OPTIMAL SYSTEM, WE WOULD HAVE A FLEX FUND THAT COULD MEET THOSE, UH, TEMPORARY, MODEST FINANCIAL NEEDS OF ALL PEOPLE WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF OUTREACH AND, AND, UH, CARE COORDINATION, UM, THERE IS THE BEGINNING OF THIS LCEH, THE LOCAL COALITION AND HOMELESSNESS EFFORT, BUT STRENGTHENING AND SUPPORTING THAT BY CREATING A BY NAME LIST SO THAT ALL THE JURISDICTIONS WITHIN THE VERDE VALLEY HAD AN ACCOUNTING OF PEOPLE WHO WERE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND WE UNDERSTOOD WHO WAS TAKING THE LEAD AND WHAT INTERVENTION EACH PERSON WAS SORT OF QUEUED UP FOR SO THAT THERE WAS A COORDINATED, ALIGNED RESPONSE AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE GAPS OR DUPLICATIONS.
AND THAT'S THE POINT OF THAT, UH, FORMALIZED BY NAME LIST.
SO ONCE WE LOOK AT THE, THOSE RESOURCES THAT EXIST, SOME OF THEM CURRENTLY IN THE EXISTING SYSTEM, UM, WE START TO BUILD OUT AN INVESTMENT PICTURE.
UM, AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO HERE IS FOR EACH OF THOSE STRATEGIES, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THE INVESTMENT WOULD IMPACT HOMELESSNESS, UM, AND, UM, AND CHOICES THAT THE COUNCIL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE.
SO THIS FIRST SLIDE LOOKS AT ARE WHAT I'M CALLING THE FULLY LOADED INVESTMENT.
THIS IS LOOKING AT ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AT A REGIONAL LEVEL TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'VE, THAT WE NOW UNDERSTAND OF THAT 600 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND DISTRIBUTING THE INTERVENTION ACCORDING TO THOSE SPECIFIC TOPOLOGIES.
SO WE'RE NOT PROVIDING BLANKET ASSISTANCE TO EVERYONE.
IT'S VERY INTENTIONAL, PLANFUL, DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO THOSE THAT NEED JUST THAT AMOUNT OF ASSISTANCE TO RESOLVE THEIR CRISIS.
SO FOR, UM, FOR THE FLEX FUND, IT'S PROVIDING, UH, UP TO 360 HOUSEHOLDS WITH SOME STABILIZATION SUPPORTS.
UM, THE IMPACT WOULD BE SHORTER PERIODS OF HOMELESSNESS.
THE IMPACT WOULD BE PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.
THE IMPACT WOULD BE ARRESTING THE, UH, PROGRESSION OF PEOPLE IN THAT TRANSITIONAL CATEGORY TO THE EPISODIC.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE CHRONIC CATEGORY.
SO IT'S THE MOST MODEST AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT, BUT SPREAD THINLY AND DIRECTED IN A VERY, UM, INTENTIONAL WAY AT PEOPLE AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR HOUSING CRISIS.
IT CAN HAVE A PRETTY PROFOUND RETURN ON INVESTMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE PREVENTING EPISODIC AND CHRONIC, WHICH ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO ADDRESS.
IN TERMS OF LANDLORD RECRUITMENT AND INCENTIVES, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL 35 TO 50 NEW UNITS OF HOUSING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, SO AS PEOPLE ARE SECURING THOSE UNITS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, THAT ONGOING LANDLORD AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ENGAGEMENT, UM, IS OCCURRING CONTINUALLY BECAUSE ONCE THAT UNIT IS SECURED, WE HAVE TO FIND OTHER UNITS FOR OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HOUSING DISTRESS.
SO IT'S AN ONGOING ANNUAL 35 TO 50 NEW UNITS EACH YEAR IN TERMS OF CRISIS HOUSING, 50 BEDS OF CRISIS HOUSING.
UM, AND THOSE WOULD BE, UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF TURNOVER ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO, UM, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SELF RESOLVE WITHOUT CRISIS HOUSING.
UM, SO THOSE BEDS WOULD SERVE MORE THAN JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR.
THERE'D PROBABLY BE TURNOVER OF MAYBE FOUR TIMES DURING THE COURSE OF A YEAR.
WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL 40 TO 80 RAPID REHOUSING SLOTS.
UM, AND WHAT WE HEARD BASED ON, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND STAKEHOLDER PARTICIPATION FROM EARLIER FROM JUST LAST MONTH WHEN WE WERE HERE, IS THAT THAT'S, UH, ON THE ONE HAND, ALTHOUGH IT IS A PRIORITY, WAS CLEAR FEEDBACK THAT IT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE IN THE SHORT TERM.
AND SO THERE WAS STRONG INTEREST AMONG THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE SPOKE TO, TO NOT DIRECT INVESTMENTS INITIALLY IN THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SIDE.
IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S SERVING A RELATIVELY SMALL PROPORTION OF PEOPLE.
UM, SO WE HAVE NOT YET HAVE INCLUDED THAT ON, UH, THE ALLOCATION PLAN.
LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE OPTIONS, WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD OUT, UH, WAYS IN WHICH YOU MIGHT CONSIDER HOW A BOTH SEDONA INVESTMENT PAIRED WITH A REGIONAL RESPONSE AND DIRECTED AT THESE INTERVENTIONS BLENDED TOGETHER, AND THEN DIFFERENT TIERS.
SO WE'RE GIVING YOU AS MANY DIFFERENT SORT OF OPTIONS, UM, TO THINK ABOUT IN THIS FIRST TIER.
IT'S REALLY JUST A FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT.
MANY OF THE INTERVENTIONS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
WE'RE FOCUSING ON PREVENTION AND STABILIZATION.
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IN THE FLEXIBLE FUNDS, UH, LANDLORD ENGAGEMENT TO SECURE MORE RENTAL UNITS AND, UH, UH, SHORT TERM CRISIS HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED EMERGENCY SHELTER PAIRED OR LAYERED ON TOP OF THAT, SORT OF THE NEXT TIER, TIER TWO, WHERE YOU'RE EXPANDING YOUR SYSTEM, SO YOU'RE BUILDING ON THOSE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS.UM, BUT WE'RE GOING DEEPER IN TERMS OF OUR RAPID REHOUSING CAPACITY.
WE'RE OFFERING MORE ASSISTANCE BEYOND JUST THAT LIGHT TOUCH MODEST APPROACH.
AND THEN TIER THREE IS COSTING OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE SORT OF FULL LIFT, UM, THE FULLY ADDRESS ALL OF THE TRANSITIONALLY, THE EPISODIC, AND THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, UM, THAT YOU, UH, THAT TRANSITIONAL EPISODIC NESS THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW, WHERE YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO I'LL, I'LL JUST TALK THROUGH THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN DEFINITELY WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAUSE, UH, AND DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND, AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS.
SO FOR TIER ONE, THIS IS THE FOUNDATIONAL ESTIMATE.
THE ANNUAL COST IS ABOUT 175 TO 325,000.
AND WHAT YOU GET FROM THAT IS QUICK FLEXIBLE INTERVENTIONS FOCUSED AGAIN ON PREVENTION WHEN POSSIBLE, AND QUICK RESOLUTION FOR THOSE WORKERS AND LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO JUST NEED MODEST SUPPORTS.
IT WOULD SUPPORT THE FLEX FUND BETWEEN 75,000 AND 125,000, SOME LANDLORD RECRUITMENT, OFFERING A RISK MITIGATION FUND AND MAYBE, UH, HOLD FEES OR WAYS TO SECURE UNITS THAT ARE, UM, UM, UH, DEDICATED TO PEOPLE EXITING HOMELESSNESS.
SO YOU'RE SECURING THEM FOR PEOPLE TO SEC TO RAPIDLY EXIT THEM OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE RANGE OF 50 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND THEN CRISIS HOUSING EXPANSION, AGAIN, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FACILITY BASED, IT COULD BE VOUCHERS, UM, THAT ARE USED.
UM, ALREADY THERE'S A, A SYSTEM IN PLACE, UH, WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN, UH, ACCESS VOUCHERS TO PUT PEOPLE TEMPORARILY IN MOTELS WHEN THEY HAVE NO OTHER SAFE OPTION, BUT FOR VERY SHORT PERIODS OF TIME.
SO EXPANDING THAT KIND OF A PROGRAM, WE WOULD, UH, GET 20 TO 35 HOUSEHOLD STABILIZED THROUGH THE FLEX FUND.
UM, AND YOU WOULD SEE SHORTER PERIODS OF TIME HOMELESS, UM, AND LESS INFLOW INTO THOSE EPISODIC AND CHRONIC CATEGORIES.
WHEN WE START TO ADD ONTO THAT, SO THIS IS ADDITIVE.
THE NEXT TIER OF TIER TWO, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 300 TO 400,000.
NOW WE'RE A ACTUALLY ABLE TO ADD REHOUSING AND LANDLORD CAPACITY, UM, TO ADDRESS, UH, UH, BROADER IMPACT.
UH, BOTH SEDONA AND THE REGION OF THE VERDE VALLEY.
WE'RE ADDING ON TOP OF TIER ONE RAPID REHOUSING EXPANSION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 275 TO MAYBE 375,000, EXPANDING LANDLORD INCENTIVES TO SECURE MORE RENTAL HOUSING.
UM, AND 10 TO 15 ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLDS WOULD BE SERVED IN RAPID REHOUSING.
IT INCREASES YOUR, THE EFFICIENCY OF YOUR SYSTEM AND THE IMPACT BY MORE PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS AND INTO HOUSING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THE TIER THREE, THIS IS THE SORT OF THE LAST LEVEL OF INVESTMENT.
THIS IS THE FULL OPTIMAL SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE ABSOLUTELY LIFTING THE SYSTEM UP.
UM, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL, UH, ONE TO 1.3 MILLION, UM, ADDS ALL THE LONG-TERM STABILIZATION AND REGIONAL INTEGRATION THAT WE NEED.
UM, IT BUILDS ON TIERS ONE AND TWO, BUT STILL ADDING MORE RAPID REHOUSING CAPACITY, FULLY LOADING OUR FLEX FUND, SERVING 25 TO 30 ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLDS IN RAPID REHOUSING, UM, AND ANOTHER 150 HOUSEHOLDS USING THAT FLEX FUND.
THIS ABSOLUTELY WILL STEM THE FLOW OF HOMELESSNESS FOR FIRST TIME PEOPLE BY PREVENTING IT AND ACCELERATING EXITS OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
SO YOU'RE STOPPING THE INFLOW INTO EPISODIC IN THOSE CHRONIC CATEGORIES ONCE PEOPLE ARE IN THE EPISODIC AND CHRONIC, AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY HAVE THOSE MORE COMPLICATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH, WHICH IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, UM, AND TAKES MUCH LONGER TO RESOLVE.
PETE, MATT, JUST A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
GOING BACK TO YOUR SLIDE 18, ALL THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE IN HERE, PARTICULARLY IN THE OPTIMAL CATEGORIES, THAT'S WHERE MOST OF 'EM ARE.
THESE ARE VERDE VALLEY WIDE NUMBERS, UM, 80 TO 90 CRISIS BEDS, 80 MORE, RIGHT? 40 TO 50 DEDICATED UNITS.
NEXT PAGE, THERE'S MORE NUMBERS AND A RANGE.
AND THEN ON PAGE 21, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COSTS, YES, THESE ARE ALL VERDE VALUE WIDE NUMBERS, CORRECT? AND, AND I HEARD CORRECTLY, PLEASE VERIFY THAT I HEARD CORRECTLY THAT THESE THREE TIERS, THEY'RE ADDITIVE, CORRECT? THE GOLD PLATED
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SOLUTION WOULD BE THE SUM OF ALL OF THESE.AND IS THIS MONEY, THAT'S A, THERE IS MONEY BEING CURRENTLY SPENT IN THE VERDE VALLEY FOR DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS.
IS THIS MONEY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MONEY THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING SPENT? YES.
SO THE, THESE REPRESENT THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY COULD MAKE INTO A REGIONAL RESPONSE.
UM, AND I THINK THE REGIONAL RESPONSE HAS TO LOOK AT NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS AND THEIR PARTNERSHIP IN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA TO MAKING, UH, INVESTMENTS IN THESE SIMILAR CATEGORIES.
UH, THE SCALE OF THOSE INVESTMENTS MIGHT BE PAIRED ACCORDING TO THEIR CAPACITY, THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR INTEREST OR CAPACITY TO MAKE INVESTMENTS, BUT THE NUMBERS THAT WE PRESENTED ARE, UH, WOULD, UH, ARE THE FIRST PASS AT LOOKING AT WHAT A CITY OF SEDONA INVESTMENT WOULD BE TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS IN YOUR CITY AND PROVIDE A REGIONAL, A REGIONAL RESPONSE THAT PROVIDES MORE OF A SAFETY NET, MORE OF A, OF A INTEGRATED RESPONSE ACROSS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
LET, LET ME ADD REAL REALLY QUICKLY.
THE SLIDES LEADING UP TO THIS SLIDE ARE DEPICTING THE REGIONAL NEED.
IF YOU ADD ALL THESE NUMBERS UP, THEY DON'T EAT EQUAL 600.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, UH, COVER THE TOTAL NEED FOR THE VALLEY.
THIS IS KINDA LIKE A PROPORTIONAL, UH, RECOMMENDATION SAYING IF YOU ADD UP THESE NUMBERS, IT, IT'S IN THE 50 TO 70 ISH RANGE FOR HOUSEHOLDS THAT YOU WOULD IMPACT HERE.
SO KNOWING THAT SEDONAS POINT IN TIME COUNTS IN THAT RANGE, WE'RE SAYING THESE THREE TIERS ARE KIND OF CONSIDERATIONS FOR HOW MUCH SEDONA MIGHT WANNA CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS A REGIONAL, UH, INVESTMENT.
THIS IS NOT THE COST OF ADDRESSING THE WHOLE REGIONAL PROBLEM THAT'S LEFT.
SO YEAH, I, I THOUGHT I HEARD TWO ANSWERS THERE, AND I SUS I SUSPECT THAT THAT'S THE ANSWER THAT YOU REALLY MEANT.
THESE WOULD BE SEDONA SHARE NUMBERS IN A SHARE OF NUMBERS IN A VERDE VALLEY WIDE APPROACH, WHICH MEANS SOMETHING LIKE THESE NUMBERS ARE SCALED 64 TO 600 FOR THE WHOLE VERDE VALLEY AFTER YOU SUBTRACT OUT.
SO 10 TIMES THE AMOUNT HERE IS THE AMOUNT REQUIRED TO REALLY ADDRESS THE PROBLEM VERDE VALLEY WIDE AFTER SUBTRACTING OUT THE EXISTING RESOURCES THAT MAKE UP SOME OF THAT GAP, THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE.
SO 20 MILLION AND YEAH, THE $900,000 OF THE GRANT FROM A O THAT WE REDIRECTED TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES, WHERE DOES THAT FIT UNDER RAPID REHOUSING HERE? WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE CURRENT, UM, PROGRAMMING, WHICH IS THAT PROGRAMMING THE A HUNDRED HOUSEHOLDS, A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED UNITS OF RAPID REHOUSING THAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES WILL BE ROLLING OUT HERE IN THE PRETTY IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
UH, IT COMES FROM THAT INVESTMENT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A MORE, A MORE THAN MODEST KIND OF PROGRESSION WITH THE, THE VISION FOR THE REGIONAL PLAN ALREADY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE GET TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA, THE FIRST TIER DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY RAPID REHOUSING.
IT'S JUST KIND OF SHORING UP THE, UH, PREVENTION SIDE WITH THE FLEX FUND, THE LANDLORD RECRUITMENT PIECE, WHICH, UH, WE KNOW IS IMPORTANT IN SEDONA BECAUSE OF HOW TIGHT THE RENTAL MARKET IS HERE AND CRISIS HOUSING TO MITIGATE PEOPLE HAVING TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE STREETS OR THE FOREST OR THEIR CARS AS, AS CRISES COME UP.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF AND MAYBE HEATHER.
UH, HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE ALLOCATE TO THE COLD WEATHER PROGRAM AND HOW MUCH IS, WAS USED AND WHAT'S REMAINING? SO I CAN, I CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, SO WE, OH, JENNY, YOU CAN ANSWER.
WE ALLOCATED $15,000 TO THAT PROGRAM.
NONE OF IT HAS BEEN SPENT YET BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ACTIVELY USING IT UNTIL THE COLD WEATHER ARRIVES SOON.
WELL, WHAT ABOUT LAST YEAR? IT, IT WAS NOT ACTIVE LAST YEAR.
DIDN'T WE HAVE, I MEAN, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE GAVE MONEY FY 24 OR FIVE, AND THE ISSUE WAS THAT WE COULDN'T GET ANY HOTEL PARTNERSHIPS, RIGHT? SO, SO SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE LODGING COUNCIL, WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR PARTNERS ON, UH, AT THE POLICE STATION AND WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES
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TO CRAFT A GOOD RESPONSE FOR THAT.SO WE'RE READY TO ROLL WITH THAT AS SOON AS WE GET INTO THE COLD WEATHER MONTHS.
WHEN WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT IT UP HERE, THOUGH, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD SAID NOT TO LIMIT IT ONLY TO COLD WEATHER.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE JUST RECENTLY HAD, UH, FOR SEDONA, A VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME FOR SEDONA.
UM, SO I WOULDN'T WE MAKE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT AS WELL.
AND, AND THERE WERE NO REQUESTS TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED THOSE SERVICES, KNOW THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE.
SO IF COUNCIL WANTS THAT TO BE THE DIRECTION OF THE FUNDING, WE CAN CERTAINLY ARRANGE, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT.
I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE VIS IT FROM COLD WEATHER ONLY, BUT I, MY MEMORY COULD BE WRONG.
IT WAS JUST A CONVERSATION WE DIDN'T DIRECT.
OTHER DIRECTION, CHIEF, IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, JUST COME ON UP.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS.
UM, LAST YEAR WE USED MONEY THAT WE HAD FROM GIFT CARDS FOR SOME OF THE HOUSING WITHOUT HAVING THE MONEY SET ASIDE AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN ONCE WE DID PUT MONEY ASIDE, WE HADN'T USED ANY, AND WE HAVEN'T USED ANY THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT WE, WE DID HOUSE, UM, INDIVIDUALS LAST YEAR, SOME BEING OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SO, UH, WE JUST USED CREATIVE METHODS THAT WE HAD AT OUR DISPOSAL AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE WEATHER, IT READS THAT IT'S COLD, INCLEMENT WEATHER, AND WE DID HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IF IT WOULD BE HEAT OR NOT, AND WE, WE SETTLED ON COLD.
HOWEVER, IF THERE WAS A SITUATION THAT CAME UP, UM, WE WOULD USE WHATEVER MEANS THAT WE COULD TO PROVIDE HOUSING.
SO, AND HOW DO WE MAKE THAT PROGRAM KNOWN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW HEATHER NOW HAS STARTED, BUT BEFORE SHE STARTED, UM, MOST PEOPLE CALL US WHEN THEY NEED HELP BECAUSE WE'RE 24 7.
SO, UM, I THINK WORD REALLY DOES SPREAD, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE USUALLY THE FIRST TOUCH POINT.
UM, I THINK AS, AS, UH, THIS PROGRAM GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER, WORD WILL SPREAD, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERN WAS FOR HOTELS IN GENERAL, THAT IF IT, IF THE MESSAGE WAS OUT OR, UM, CERTAIN HOTELS WERE KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANNA STAY AT THOSE HOTELS.
SO IT'S, IT'S A TOUCHY SUBJECT.
NEXT, WE WILL KIND OF PIVOT FROM THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES TO, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVE A REGIONAL RESPONSE THAT'S ACTIVATED FOR THE ENTIRE VERDE VALLEY? UH, WITH THROUGHOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS, THE REALITY THAT, UH, SEDONA CANNOT RESPOND TO THIS ALONE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE THEMES THAT THAT CON CONTINUES TO COME UP.
THAT PEOPLE MOVE ACROSS JURISDICTIONS SEEKING SERVICES, ENGAGING IN, IN DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE EMPLOYMENT.
AND, UH, SO THIS, THIS NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ACTIVATE REGIONALLY, BUT THE QUESTION HAS KIND OF ECHOED, WELL, HOW DO WE MOVE FROM KIND OF A CITY CONVERSATION TO A REGIONAL ONE? SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.
HOW DO WE KIND OF MOVE FROM A TO B? THIS SLIDE IS INTENDED TO CAPTURE THE VISION FOR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN KIND OF A UNIFIED VA VERDE VALUE RESPONSE.
UH, WE WANT A SYSTEM WHERE CITIES AND TOWNS SHARE THE COST OF SOLUTIONS, WHERE DATA IS ALIGNED, CASE MANAGEMENT IS ALIGNED, AND THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MEASURE OUTCOMES FOR THE VALLEY AS A WHOLE.
SEDONAS ROLE IN THIS IS KIND OF A CATALYST.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ESSENTIALLY PILOTING, UH, AND PILOTING SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES SO THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO SCALE IN OUR REGIONAL COORDINATION EFFORTS.
WE WANT A SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T JUST KIND OF REACT TO HOMELESSNESS, BUT CAN PREVENT IT AND SHORTEN THE TIME THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS.
SO OUR NEXT STEPS ARE KIND OF IMMEDIATE AND PRACTICAL.
UM, AND THERE'RE ABOUT SOLIDIFYING PARTNERSHIPS AND BUILDING CONSISTENCY
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ABOUT HOW WE, WE WORK TOGETHER.WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT FORMALIZING PARTICIPATION FROM PARTNER JURISDICTIONS THROUGH FORMALIZED MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING OR RESOLUTIONS OF HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
UH, WE WANT, WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT HOW TO OPERATIONALIZE SOME SHARED TOLLS, LIKE THE BY NAME LIST THAT MATT MENTIONED, LIKE THE CASE CONFERENCING THAT THE LCEH HAS ALREADY STARTED DOING.
UH, AND, AND SOME OF THE COORDINATED OUTREACH EFFORTS THAT WE KNOW ARE ALREADY STARTING TO EMERGE THROUGH THE RESOURCE OFFICERS WITH SEDONA PD AND CONWOOD PD.
AND WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT DEVELOPING A COST SHARING FORMULA.
SO EVERY COMMUNITY IS KIND OF SHARING OR, UH, CONTRIBUTING FAIRLY BASED ON THE POPULATION AND THE NEED, UM, THAT THEY REPRESENT.
AND SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT COORDINATING MEETINGS.
UM, WE WANT TO ACHIEVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL LAST OVER TIME.
AND SO I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, IN THE FINAL SECTION, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT NEXT STEPS, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
MELISSA, THIS KIND OF GOES BACK ACTUALLY TO THE LAST SECTION AND, UM, EITHER CITY MANAGER OR THE CHIEF CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
SO WE ALLOCATED A RESOURCE POSITION IN THE LAST BUDGET, UM, TO DEAL WITH, UH, HOMELESS OUTREACH, UM, THROUGH THE SPD.
AND I WAS WONDERING WHERE WE WERE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
I TOLD, UH, COMMANDER PENNER, I WAS GONNA BRING HER UP NEXT TIME 'CAUSE I ASSUMED I'D COME UP AGAIN.
SO THIS IS COMMANDER HEATHER PENNER.
SHE'S NEW TO THE ORGANIZATION.
WE'RE DOING HER SWEARING IN NEXT WEEK.
UM, SO SHE'LL OVERSEE THIS PROGRAM.
WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY IS JUST BRINGING OUR REGULAR STAFFING CURRENT NUMBERS UP TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, WHICH WILL THEN RELEASE THAT FIRST PERSON TO GO INTO THIS PROGRAM.
WE HAVE SELECTED THE OFFICER, IT'S OFFICER MICHAEL LUCAS.
SO WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THIS TIME TO GET HIM ACQUAINTED WITH COTTONWOODS, UH, RESOURCE OFFICER, START ATTENDING MEETINGS, WORKING WITH COMMANDER PENNER, AND THEN HOPEFULLY OUR GOAL IS BY FEBRUARY TO HAVE HIM OUT, IF NOT SOONER.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST BASED ON STAFFING AND GETTING PEOPLE TRAINED AND, AND IN, UM, THEIR PATROL POSITIONS SO THAT HE CAN BE RELEASED OUT.
UM, SO THIS INDIVIDUAL NOT, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU'RE PLANNING ON STRUCTURING IT.
SO I'M GONNA ASK QUESTIONS BASICALLY ABOUT JOB DESCRIPTION.
SO, UM, WILL THIS PERSON BE WORKING LIKE IN AN OUTREACH TEAM? SO WORKING WITH SPECTRUM OR, UM, ONE OF THE CHARITIES OR WHO, WHOEVER NEEDS TO BE WORKED WITH, ARE THEY AN INDIVIDUAL SORT OF OUT ON PATROL WHO THEN ENCOUNTERS SOMEONE AND THEN DETERMINES WHAT RESOURCES ARE NEEDED? HOW ARE YOU THINKING THIS IS GOING TO WORK? I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK AS A MIX OF WHAT YOU SAID.
SO THIS IS THEIR SOLE POSITION, SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO DOING.
THEY WILL WORK WITH COTTONWOOD.
SO IF WE HAVE, UM, ANY CONCERNS, THEN THAT OFFICER CAN COME OVER HERE AND WORK.
IF THEY HAVE, UM, A DETAIL THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT REQUIRES MORE RESOURCES, THEY'LL WORK WITH THE FOREST SERVICE, THEY'LL WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT IT'S AN EASY PHONE CALL TO MAKE OR THAT PERSON CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL TO HIM AND ACTIVATE, UM, REACHING OUT.
SO HIS JOB WILL BE PROACTIVE AS WELL AS FIELDING CALLS FOR ANY NEEDS.
SO JUST SORT OF, UM, A GENERAL QUESTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE, OR WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, THEY SPOKE ABOUT
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU PERCEIVE, UM, OUR SPD SHOULD BE ENGAGED IN, OR DO YOU PERCEIVE THAT THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF, UM, UH, THE SPD WORKING ON? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
SO IT'S LIKE THE, TO, TO BUILD THIS DATABASE, WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY OF ENTERING DATA IN, AND YOU NEED A CENTRAL PLACE TO PUT IT SO IT CAN BE SHARED OUT, RIGHT? TYPICAL DATABASE IS, I'M SORRY, IS THIS GOING BACK TO WHEN THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS HERE AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT DATABASE THAT THEY UTILIZED? BECAUSE I REMEMBER NO, THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT I THINK, THAN WHAT THESE GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, SO I'LL LET, HE'S, HE'S CHOMPING AT THE BIT HERE TOO TO, TO FILL IN ALL THE PIECES I'M LEAVING OUT.
SO I WILL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
UM, THE BY NAME LIST, UH, THERE, THERE IS KIND OF A OVERLAP IN A SENSE OF LIKE A VENN DIAGRAM HERE BETWEEN THE BY NAME
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LIST COORDINATION EFFORT AND THE WORK THAT'S DONE BY THE LCH TO COORDINATE THE RESPONSES.UM, BUT THE BY NAME LIST IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
SO IT'S AN EFFORT TO GET A LIST OF EVERYBODY WHO IS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE VALLEY AND HAVE A A PATH FORWARD FOR THEM.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, NO WRONG DOOR OR COORDINATED ENTRY, THAT'S THE LCH TOOL FOR GETTING EVERYONE'S INFORMATION, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
AND SO WORKING THE BY NAME LIST WOULD BE LIKE OUTREACH STAFF ARE GONNA HELP GET, GET PEOPLE'S NAMES ON THAT LIST.
THEY'RE GONNA HELP PROVIDE INSIGHT AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT STRATEGIES MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR GETTING THEM OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
SO THAT'S KINDA THE ROLE THAT THE OUTREACH STAFF COULD PLAY WITH THE BY NAME LIST.
AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU SEE PD BEING A PART OF THAT CASE CONFERENCING KIND OF SIDE OF THINGS? IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH WORKING WITH THIS GROUP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH HOMELESS AND COLLECTING INFORMATION IN GENERAL, THEY ARE VERY RELUCTANT TO SUPPLY THAT INFORMATION TO A POLICE OFFICER.
UM, IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE UNIFORM AND THE AUTHORITY.
IT WORKS BEST IF WE HAVE A JOINT, UM, TEAM DISPERSED AND THE POLICE OFFICER CAN WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESOURCES THERE TO COLLECT THAT KIND OF DATA WHERE WE ARE NOT THERE TO COLLECT IT.
THEY CAN GIVE IT DIRECTLY TO THE RESOURCE PERSON THAT IS THERE, OR AGENCY THAT IS DEPLOYED WITH US TO COLLECT THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE THEN THEY BELIEVE IT'S USED FOR DIFFERENT MEANS, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT FOR THE COMMANDER, BUT OTHERWISE QUESTION.
UM, THE COUNCIL, I THINK AS OF YESTERDAY HAS AN ACCEPT, HAS A VERBALLY ACCEPTED OFFER FOR A NEW MAGISTRATE JUDGE FOR THE CITY.
AND DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, UH, THE CANDIDATES, UH, THAT WE SPOKE TO TALKED ABOUT A SPECIALTY COURT OR SPECIALTY COURTS, UM, THAT, UH, OFTEN ADDRESSED HOMELESSNESS IN THE FORM OF MENTAL ILLNESS, DRUG ADDICTION, VETERANS, UH, SPECIFICALLY, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY.
UH, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT ON THE ROLE OF SPECIALTY COURTS IN ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE? MM-HMM
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A EVIDENCE-BASED BEST PRACTICE.
UH, MANY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS HAVE ARE LEGAL ISSUES, UH, FELONY RECORDS, UM, OR RECORDS THAT NEED TO BE EXPUNGED SO THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR WORK OR SO THAT THEY CAN GET APPROVED FOR HOUSING.
UH, SO COORDINATING WITH YOUR COURT SYSTEM WHEN POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT RESOLUTION OF THOSE OUTSTANDING, UH, RECORDS, UH, CAN HELP, UH, TO SPEED THE RESOLUTION PROCESS.
I'LL ADD AS WELL THAT, UM, COORDINATION BETWEEN THE COURT AND THE REGIONAL RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS CAN BE A REALLY POWERFUL WAY TO REDIRECT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INTO SOMETHING THAT IS IMPACTFUL.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOMELESS, THERE'S A HOMELESS COURT PROGRAM IN HOUSTON THAT'S A NATIONAL MODEL.
AND SO WHEN PEOPLE GO IN FOR CLASS BC MISDEMEANORS, UH, THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND THEM FOR OR TO CHARGE OR TO ASSIGN THEM COMMUNITY SERVICE WITH A CASE MANAGEMENT OPTION.
SO YOU, INSTEAD OF GOING TO DO COMMUNITY SERVICE, YOU COULD GO MEET WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES, DO YOUR COORDINATED ENTRY ASSESSMENT AND WORK ON YOUR HOUSING RESOLUTION AND FULFILL THOSE SERVICE HOURS.
UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR, YOU KNOW, PROOF BACK TO THE COURT AND, UH, AND GET YOUR CASE, YOU KNOW, WRAPPED UP.
BUT THAT MODEL HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE USEFUL IN THAT KIND OF COORDINATION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S REALLY GETTING AT EXACTLY WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN HERE.
I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESS FOLKS WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS OR HAVE ADDICTIONS AND OUR POLICE ARE COMING INTO CONTACT WITH THEM ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
UH, OFTENTIMES IT IS THAT WE'RE MOVING THEM ALONG BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, VIOLATED, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRESPASSING, SO THEY'RE GETTING TRESPASSED FROM ONE LOCATION.
AND THEN WE SEE IN THE POLICE REPORT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING TRESPASSED SOMEWHERE ELSE A WEEK LATER.
AND THEN THEY'RE GETTING IN FIGHTS WITH EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, THE WEEK AFTER THAT,
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HOW IS, IS THERE AN AVENUE FOR THESE SPECIALTY COURTS TO DIRECT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT, HEY, LOOK, YOU GOTTA GET TREATED FOR THIS MENTAL ILLNESS, THIS ADDICTION, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST KEEP MOVING YOU ALONG.YOUR ALTERNATIVE IS GONNA WIND UP BEING IN THE COUNTY LOCKUP FOR THREE MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO AVOID THE COST OF THAT, BUT WE WANT THE PROBLEM SOLVED.
SO WHERE, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, GETTING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS AND ADDICTIONS, DO THESE SPECIALTY COURTS AID IN THIS ISSUE? YEAH, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND BETTER THE QUESTION NOW, SO I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE EXPLORING WHAT I REFER TO AS, UH, MANDATED TREATMENT.
UM, AND IT CAN BE A POWERFUL TOOL FOR ENGAGEMENT, BUT IT REQUIRES STRONG COORDINATION BETWEEN THE COURTS AND THE CLINICIAN, UM, SO THAT IT'S NOT SEEN AS A PUNITIVE OR, UH, EXCLUSIVELY PUNITIVE APPROACH.
UM, BUT REALLY ABOUT CRISIS RESOLUTION AND ENGAGEMENT IN TREATMENT.
UM, AND COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UM, HAVE DEVELOPED THAT STRONG PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COURTS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM TO MANDATE THAT TREATMENT, UM, ARE SEEING SOME SUCCESS IN IN ACHIEVING ENGAGEMENT.
THE STATE OF VERMONT HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR MOST OF THE LAST DECADE, UM, BOTH FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS WHERE, UH, THEIR HIGHEST KIND OF FREQUENT USERS OF THOSE SYSTEMS, THEY WILL SUBSIDIZE A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM TO EXIT THEM OUT OF THEIR, THOSE MENTAL HEALTH OR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS AND PUT THEM INTO HOUSING.
SO IT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT VERSION OF WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, BUT IT ACCELERATES PLACEMENT INTO STABILIZING PROGRAMS. OKAY.
SO ANTHONY, FROM AZ COMPLETE HEALTH, YOU'RE HERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU COULD SHARE? AND YOU NEED TO COME TO THE PODIUM IF YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE ANY INPUT TO THESE QUESTIONS? MY
HI EVERYBODY, I'M ANTHONY MANCINI.
UM, I'M BASED IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, AND I'M THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS LEAD FOR ARIZONA COMPLETE HEALTH BASED IN FLAGSTAFF COVERING THE MAJORITY OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.
UM, SO AS FAR AS HOW ALL THE RESPONSES ARE COMING IN, I WOULD SAY THAT WE DO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT IS EXPERIENCING A LOT OF SUCCESS IN NORTHERN ARIZONA WITH THESE SPECIALTY COURTS.
HOWEVER, IT IS NOT, UM, THE LANDSCAPE IS NOT EVEN, IT IS VERY UNEQUAL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY BASED ON A, A CASE BY CASE BASIS BASIS FROM OUR JUDGES.
UM, GETTING THEM TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AND SIGN ON BOARD IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
BUT THE COURTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTING TO IT, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GREAT MOVEMENT IN THROUGHOUT THE TERRITORY OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE GET CONNECTED TO SERVICES.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY ADDRESS THEIR SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES, UM, GET CONNECTED TO CASE MANAGERS, GET CONNECTED TO HOUSING AND ACTUALLY STARTING THIS JOURNEY OF, UH, WELLNESS.
UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS IT'S GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, THERE IS STILL A VERY BROAD SPECTRUM OF MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS, SUBSTANCE USE, HOMELESSNESS.
UM, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME SPECTRUM ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU'RE DOING THESE SPECIALTY COURTS IN MY OPINION.
SO YOU STILL HAVE TO KIND OF ACCOUNT FOR THAT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GONNA BE A MAGIC BULLET.
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO END UP WITH YOUR PERCENTAGES.
YOU WILL HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF THAT POPULATION THAT CAN BE REHABILITATED SUCCESSFULLY, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TIMELINES ALONG THAT AS WELL.
UM, BUT THE, THE CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH THAT HAVE VERY ROBUST COURTS ESTABLISHED, ARE SEEING A LOT OF SUCCESS IN THAT WORLD.
UM, EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCING RELIEF.
THE SOCIAL SERVANTS AGENCIES HAVE THEIR JOBS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM.
LAW ENFORCEMENT SEEMS TO HAVE A BETTER POINT IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE DROP OFFS TO, AND THE SYSTEM JUST WORKS TOGETHER A LOT MORE COHESIVELY FROM THESE COURTS PERSPECTIVES.
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE SEE AS FAR AS THE REGIONAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY WHO LEADS THE EFFORT.
KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AS FAR AS I WAS AWARE WHEN I STARTED DISCOVERING THIS STUFF, I'M OVER THREE YEARS INTO MY TENURE WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS.
'CAUSE WE'RE A NEWER HEALTH PLAN TO NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND WE DO DO A LOT OF THIS SYSTEM CHANGE WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, BUT IT COMES FROM THE JUDGES, WHICH IS WHY WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, A ROBUST SYSTEM ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA.
IT'S A ONE-OFF CASE IN MY OPINION.
YOU KNOW, A JUDGE HAS TO UNDERSTAND IT, A JUDGE HAS
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TO CARE ABOUT IT, AND A JUDGE HAS TO SEE THE VALUE AND, AND WANT TO DRIVE IT.WHAT IS YOUR JURISDICTION AS FAR AS WHAT I COVER? YOUR HEALTH PLANS? YEAH.
UH, SO WE'RE A STATEWIDE HEALTH PLAN.
WE DO MEDICAID, MEDICARE MARKETPLACE.
WE'RE THE LARGEST MANAGED CARE ORGANIZATION IN THE US, OUR PARENT COMPANY AS CENTENE.
UH, WE COVER ABOUT 550,000 LIVES IN ARIZONA.
SO WE'RE THE LARGEST HEALTH PLAN IN ARIZONA.
SO WE'RE THAT HEALTH PLAN THAT YOU FALL ON BASED ON A LIFE CIRCUMSTANCE OR BASED ON A LOT OF THOSE QUALIFYING CONDITIONS.
SO WE DEAL WITH COMPLEX CASES, VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, UM, THIS IS KIND OF THE, WHAT WE DO ACROSS THE NATION AS FAR AS SERVING THIS, THIS TYPE OF POPULATION.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T EXPLAINED YOUR ROLE IN MENTAL HEALTH.
SO FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEDICAID CONTRACT THROUGH ACCESS.
SO OUR COMPANY, ARIZONA COMPLETE HEALTH IS RECOGNIZED AS THE REGIONAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A FIVE TO SEVEN YEAR CONTRACT TERM BASED ON PERFORMANCE OF IMPLEMENTING THESE SERVICES.
SO WE MANAGE THE SMI SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL POPULATION THROUGHOUT ALL IN NORTHERN ARIZONA AND THEIR ACCESS TO CARE.
UM, WE MANAGE THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS HOTLINE, WHICH IS 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
THAT'S ALL IN PARTNERSHIP, IN COLLABORATION WITH A NUMBER OF PROVIDERS, SOLARI, UH, CRISIS, MOBILE TEAMS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
EVERYBODY IS CONNECTED TO THAT.
AND WE OPERATE THAT ON THE BASIS OF DIVERSION FROM INCARCERATION AND ER BASICALLY TO STOP THAT TAX DOLLAR DRAIN AND TRY TO GET FOLKS INTO THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS OF CARE.
SO, SO THE PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF YOUR PLAN TO GET SERVICE IF THEY'RE REFERRED FROM THE COURT.
SO THE REVO SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY WHO'S STANDING IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
SO YOU COULD BE DRIVING ACROSS COUNTRY, LOSE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH MEDS, VISITING THE GRAND CANYON EXPERIENCE AN EPISODE, YOU QUALIFY TO CALL THE CRISIS HOTLINE, YOU WILL NEVER GET A BILL, SOMEBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, YOU'LL GET YOUR MEDS BACK AND YOU'LL BE ON YOUR WAY.
AND YOU AVOIDED A HUGE TAX DOLLAR DRAIN JUST FROM THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
RIGHT? SO WE OPERATE AS THE REBA IN TWO THIRDS OF THE STATE.
SO WE'VE BEEN THE REBA IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA FOR, I BELIEVE WE'RE ON OUR THIRD CONTRACT TERM NOW.
UM, SO CLOSE TO OVER 15 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT DOWN IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA AND IN THE NORTH.
WE TOOK EFFECT AS THE REBA OCTOBER 1ST, 2022.
UH, WE ADMINISTER REBA SERVICES A LOT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE PREVIOUS HEALTH PLAN THAT HAD THE CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE US A LOT MORE LOCALLY INVOLVED, ACTUALLY WORKING ON A LOT OF THESE SYSTEM CHANGE EFFORTS TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO INFLUENCE SOME OF THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA AND SERVING THESE POPULATIONS AND STOPPING THAT TAX DOLLAR DRAIN.
AND YOU'RE CONTRACTED WITH WHOM? UH, SO THROUGH ACCESS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE AND THE PUBLIC, THAT'S THE MEDICAID PROGRAM? YEAH, SO ARIZONA'S HEALTHCARE COST CONTAINMENT SYSTEM, SO THERE ARE MEDICAID ADMINISTRATION IN THE STATE, AND REBA STANDS FOR REGIONAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, REGIONAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGREEMENT.
THEY CHANGED IT TO AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE SOMETIME THIS YEAR.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S BROKEN UP INTO THREE GSAS.
SO THE NORTHERN GEOGRAPHIC SERVICE AREA, CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN.
UM, THE STATE MAY CHANGE THAT SOMEDAY AND GO TO ONE STATEWIDE PROVIDER JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, EASE OF USE, BASICALLY WORKING WITH PROVIDERS.
AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE SEPARATE SYSTEMS ADMINISTERED BY POTENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT HEALTH PLANS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE COHESIVE UNIT THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
IT'S KIND OF LEANING THAT WAY NOW.
I MEAN, THE STATE HAS EVERYBODY USING THE, THE SINGLE STATEWIDE CRISIS HOTLINE FOR THAT PURPOSE, FOR DATA COLLECTION AND, YOU KNOW, CONCERTED EFFORT.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL BROKEN UP INTO THREE GSAS.
SO SINCE YOU SAID THAT, UM, SINCE YOU CONTRACTED WITH ACCESS, SO A CLIENT OF ACCESS WOULD THEORETICALLY HAVE INFORMATION TO KNOW THAT YOU EXIST FOR ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED.
BUT YOU SAID THAT JUST ANYBODY STANDING IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA IS WHO YOU WOULD SERVE.
SO HOW DOES THAT PERSON IN YOUR SCENARIO DRIVING THROUGH THAT HAS A CRISIS? HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT YOU EXIST AND HOW WOULD THEY ACCESS YOU? SO THEY REALLY DON'T NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE NATIONAL, UM, HOTLINE.
SO IF YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER FOR CRISIS OR SUICIDE OR ANYTHING RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH, IT PATCHES RIGHT BACK INTO THE SYSTEM THAT WE ADMINISTER IN THE STATE.
SO BASICALLY, IF YOU CALL 9 8 8, YOU END UP ON LIKE A TRUNK TREE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, PRESS ONE TO GET HERE, PRESS TWO TO GET HERE, AND THEN IT'LL EVENTUALLY ROUTE YOU TO OUR PROVIDERS THAT ARE LOCAL.
IF YOU'RE IN THE STATE, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LIKE OUR, OUR STATEWIDE CRISIS HOTLINE NUMBER.
BUT IF YOU'RE JUST TRAVELING OUT OF STATE, I MEAN, IF YOU GOOGLE IT, IT'LL POP UP.
BUT 9, 8, 8 THAT'S ON BILLBOARDS EVERYWHERE ON YOUR ROAD TRIP WILL WORK.
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AND ONE FOLLOW UP.DO YOU HAVE STATISTICS ON THAT? UH, YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, VAN LIFERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE PASSING THROUGH WITH TRANSITIONAL CATEGORY HERE AS WELL.
HOW MANY PEOPLE, DO YOU HAVE A WAY OF TRACKING HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE SERVING OR HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS IS? YEAH, ACTUALLY, UH, SO BILL, MY COUNTERPART WHO WAS HERE WITH ME IN JANUARY, HE IS, UH, HE DIRECTLY ADMINISTERS OUR SYSTEM FOR THREE OF THE FIVE COUNTIES IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.
AND THEN HE HOLDS QUARTERLY CRISIS MEETINGS TO REVIEW THE DATA WITH ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST THIS WEEK, I THINK IT HAPPENED ON MONDAY, I GOT AN EMAIL THAT WE NOW HAVE A PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD FOR ALL OF THIS CRISIS DATA.
UM, AND WE DID THAT INTENTIONALLY FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS AND FOR OUR PARTNERS TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS DATA, ENGAGE WITH US FURTHER TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, UM, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO WRITE FOR GRANTS FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS IN OUR REGIONS.
UM, SO I CAN ACTUALLY SEND THAT TO JEANIE AND GET IT TO EVERYBODY SINCE IT, I LITERALLY JUST CLICKED ON IT BEFORE I CAME HERE TO LOOK AT IT FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES.
SO JUST FOR CLARITY, THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE BY ITS VERY NAME IS CRISIS.
SO IF SOMEONE IS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, THEN YOU HAVE A SERVICE TO PROVIDE.
BUT ONCE THEY'RE OUT OF CRISIS, THEY STILL HAVE THEIR MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION.
SO WHERE DO THEY GO THEN IF THEY'RE HOMELESS, THEY HAVE TO GET, THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE THAT TREATMENT OR THEY'RE JUST GONNA SHOW UP AGAIN IN CRISIS MODE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANNA GET THEM OUT OF, RIGHT? WE WANNA GET THEM STABILIZED.
WE WANT THEM TO BE WORKING ON WHATEVER, UM, PHYSICAL OR MENTAL ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.
OTHERWISE PUTTING THEM IN ANY KIND OF HOUSING IS JUST GOING TO PROBABLY FAIL AND THEY'RE GOING TO END UP BACK OUT ON THE STREET.
SO WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU? YEAH, AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW NO SYSTEMS ARE PERFECT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPLEX CONDITIONS AND HUMANS, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES AT PLAY.
UM, WE OPERATE THE CRISIS SYSTEMS SO THAT THERE ARE THESE ROBUST SUPPORTS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, YOU WOULD SEE A WAY DIFFERENT CRISIS SYSTEM THAN YOU SEE IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.
AND THAT'S 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD 15 PLUS YEARS TO ACTUALLY ADAPT THE SYSTEM TO THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
SO LIKE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, AND WE'RE STARTING TO GET IT IN THE NORTH, BUT IT'S JUST, WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY PROVIDERS YET BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AS MANY PROGRAMS AVAILABLE.
SO IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, YOU COULD ACTUALLY CONTACT CRISIS AND NOW YOU QUALIFY, UM, FOR A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF CARE THAT IS PROVIDED FROM LIVED EXPERIENCE AGENCIES.
YOU WILL QUALIFY FOR, I BELIEVE ABOUT EIGHT SESSIONS, I THINK EIGHT TO 12 BASED ON YOUR LEVEL OF NEED WITH THESE PEER PROVIDERS AND WITH THESE LIVED EXPERIENCE ORGANIZATIONS TO KEEP YOU ON TOP OF YOUR CARE.
SO WE ALSO HAVE SOME INNOVATIVE STUFF DOWN IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA WHERE WHEN YOU CALL CRISIS, THAT PERSON YOU'RE SPEAKING TO ON THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE CAN REACH INTO PROVIDER'S CALENDARS AND BOOK YOU AN APPOINTMENT.
SO THEY COULD BOOK YOU AN APPOINTMENT THE NEXT DAY IN THE NAME OF CRISIS, RIGHT? THIS IS ALL SET UP.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS IN THE NORTH AND WE HAVE NOT ACHIEVED THIS YET.
UM, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE SERVICES OFFERED, BUT WE CALL 'EM SECOND RESPONDER SERVICES.
SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR CRISIS SERVICES, THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR SECOND RESPONDER SERVICES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY CLINICAL.
THEY'RE MORE OF A LIVED EXPERIENCE PERSPECTIVE.
SOMEBODY WHO'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS, SOMEBODY WHO'S RECOVERED, SOMEBODY WHO ENDED UP HOMELESS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND THEN FELL OFF THE RAILS, BUT NOW THEY'RE BACK AND THEY WORK FOR THIS OTHER AGENCY.
SO THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO KEEP YOU FROM FALLING OFF RIGHT? BEFORE WE GET YOU INTO THAT MIND FRAME OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER LEVEL OF CARE.
SO WE HAVE ALL THESE TOUCHES THAT ARE SET UP DESIGNED INTENTIONALLY FOR THAT.
RIGHT? UM, NORTHERN ARIZONA, WHEN WE TOOK OVER THE CRISIS SYSTEM, IT WAS NOT AS FUNCTIONAL AS IT IS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.
SO WE HAD TO MOVE IT UP TO A CERTAIN BASELINE STANDARD BEFORE WE COULD ACTUALLY START WORKING WITH THESE PROVIDERS AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A PROVIDER OF ARIZONA COMPLETE HEALTH, WE EXPECT YOU TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF APPOINTMENTS RESERVED WEEK OVER WEEK FOR CRISIS.
AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR CONTRACT.
WE WILL HAVE SECOND RESPONDER SERVICES THAT ARE SPECIALIZED IN THE POPULATIONS THEY SERVE.
NOT JUST A, NOT JUST ONE LIVED EXPERIENCE ORG THAT SERVES EVERY POPULATION.
THEY WILL BE SPECIFIC TO PEOPLE'S CIRCUMSTANCES IN THEIR LIVES.
UH, WE'VE STARTED AD SERVICES, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ZERO WHEN WE STARTED IN THE NORTH.
WE HAVE THREE SECOND RESPONDER PROGRAMS NOW.
LOTS OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT'S ALL BASED OFF OF THAT.
WE ALSO DO HAVE, WE, THERE'S SOMETHING THROUGH ACCESS CALLED A SPECIAL CARE NAVIGATOR THAT IF YOU QUALIFY LIKE, UH, AS AS SERIOUS MENTAL
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ILLNESS OR IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN QUALIFYING CONDITIONS, THE STATE WILL ACTUALLY PAY FOR YOU TO HAVE A SPECIAL NAVIGATOR TO KEEP YOU GOING TO YOUR APPOINTMENTS, KEEP YOU CHECKING IN, KEEP SCHEDULING APPOINTMENTS WITH YOU, KEEP CHECKING ON YOU, MAKING SURE YOU'RE TAKING YOUR MEDS.IT'S NOT A VERY WELL KNOWN PROGRAM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NORTHERN ARIZONA DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
THE PREVIOUS HEALTH PLAN DID NOT ADMINISTER THEIR REBA DUTIES THE SAME AS WE DO.
SO WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF REEDUCATION TO LET FAMILIES KNOW AND INDIVIDUALS KNOW THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS THAT.
YOU CAN CONTACT REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HEALTH PLAN AND WE CAN ASSIGN SOMEBODY TO YOU TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO HOW MANY SERVICES, IF ANY AT ALL EXIST IN VERDE VALLEY THAT SOMEONE WHO IS IN CRISIS HERE COMES OUT OF CRISIS? THIS, DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE ANY SUPPORT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY? OR IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE VERDE VALLEY AND GO TO FLAGSTAFF, THEN THEY'RE JUST GONNA FALL OFF AGAIN? YEAH, I MEAN, I'D SAY IT HAS TO GO DOWN TO CASE BY CASE AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S WAY BETTER THAN IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO, RIGHT BEFORE WHEN I GOT HIRED, RIGHT BEFORE THE CONTRACT WENT INTO EFFECT.
UM, A BIG PART OF IT IS GETTING EVERYBODY PLAYING THE SAME GAME, RIGHT? AND COLLABORATING TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY SHARING THEIR RESOURCES OR STAYING IN THEIR LANES AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING FOR THE CLIENT.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE JUST SO THAT THAT SYSTEM IS FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY.
LIKE BILL, WHO I MENTIONED BEFORE, AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, HE REVIEWS CRISIS PROTOCOLS WITH ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
IT'S EVERYBODY'S CHANCE TO READ THE PROTOCOLS, WEIGH IN ON 'EM, AND GIVE YOUR OPINION ON HOW YOU MIGHT NEED IT TO WORK BETTER FOR YOU BECAUSE THIS SITUATION'S NOT GOING GREAT FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU COULD BE HELPING PEOPLE MORE.
SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO REFINE IT FOR SURE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR HEALTH HOMES, WE HAVE PROVIDERS.
WE'RE ALWAYS IDENTIFYING GAPS IN THE AREA OF WHAT ELSE COULD BE NEEDED.
AND A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM THE CRISIS DATA.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE COULD DO A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE PROVIDER NETWORKS AND THE DIFFERENCES OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS COMPARED TO US IN THE PREVIOUS REBA.
AND YOU WILL SEE MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND MORE OF THIS, UH, CRISIS TYPE SUPPORT.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND LIST IT ALL TO YOU
JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU KEEP REFERRING TO ARIZONA, UM, COMPLETE CARE.
THIS IS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS A HEALTH PLAN.
UM, AND IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS NOT ENROLLED IN THIS HEALTH PLAN, THEN THEY'RE SORT OF OUT OF SERVICES, UM, BEYOND PERHAPS CRISIS CARE, WHICH WOULD BE PROVIDED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN CRISIS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT AMOUNT OF CRISIS SERVICES IS PLENTY OF TIME TO WORK WITH YOUR OTHER HEALTH PLAN.
OR IF YOU'RE NOT INSURED, YOU KNOW, EIGHT TO 12 WEEKS OF TIME TO SET SOMETHING UP AND ACTUALLY LIKE CARE MANAGE SOMEBODY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THAT, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IF THAT CRISIS, THOSE CRISIS DOLLARS ARE COVERING EIGHT TO 12 WEEKS.
SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK IT UP, SEE THE CARE NETWORK THAT SOMEBODY'S IN, SEE WHAT THEY CAN ACCESS.
THAT'S WHERE THAT CARE NAVIGATOR WOULD BE IMPACTFUL, RIGHT? THEY COULD SEE WHERE THIS INDIVIDUAL'S ALREADY BEEN, WHAT HASN'T WORKED FOR THEM, WHO THEY'VE CONNECTED WITH.
TRY A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SERVICE INSTEAD OF ALWAYS SAYING YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SPECTRUM EVERY TIME AND IT'S NOT WORKING.
UM, IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, UH, LINE OF QUESTIONING, SO TO SPEAK, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COURTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT YOUR NEXT WEDNESDAY SPECIAL WORK SESSION, OCTOBER 29TH, YOU HAVE COCONINO COUNTY COMING TO TALK ABOUT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COORDINATION AND THE SYSTEM AND ALL THAT.
AND SO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO FIND OUT ABOUT, UH, COURT PROGRAMS, JUDGES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND I BELIEVE COCONINO COUNTY IS THE ONE THAT SUPERVISES FOR OUR MAGISTRATE REPORTS TO.
YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB OF TAGGING ON ON, UH, ON ANTHONY THERE.
ANTHONY, THANKS FOR, UH, COMING IN AND MAKING A PRESENTATION.
UM, AND, AND IN THAT SPIRIT, IF I CAN PUT MAYOR ROBIN ON THE SPOT, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AND GIVING US, UH, A COLLEGIAL POINT OF VIEW? YOU GOT TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR CLARKDALE POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU DON'T MIND?
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WE'RE NEVER GONNA SEE HER AGAIN.AND WE'LL KNOW NOT TO GO VISIT A CLARKDALE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
YOU'D LOVE TO PUT ME ON THE SPOT, RIGHT? UM, I THINK, UH, ROBIN NEED TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF DALE CLARKDALE.
UM, DEFINITELY THE PRESENTATION NEEDS TO COME TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTY, UM, BECAUSE, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
WE DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY TALK TO IN OUR REGION.
WE'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS ALL OF YOU ARE ASKING, CAN THERE BE REGIONAL COLLABORATION? OF COURSE THERE CAN BE.
I THINK THE BIG QUESTION I HAVE, WE ALL GO DOWN THIS PATH AND WHO MANAGES THIS? THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION WE HAVE IS WHO MANAGES IT? IS IT ALL OF US? I'M NOT SURE IT IS.
IS IT THE SERVICE PROVIDER COMMUNITY? PROBABLY.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS IN ALL OF THIS.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S MOUS DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE WORKED OUT.
THIS IS A HUGE LIFT RIGHT NOW, NOT JUST THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU DISTRIBUTE? WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS? IS IT JUST BY OUR GENERAL POPULATION? IS WHERE DO WE FIND THE, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS, THE 600 THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHERE DO THEY, ARE THEY DISPERSED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
WE HAVE TO DO THIS KIND OF PRESENTATION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, TAILORED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR AREA.
UM, BUT REMEMBER, MOST OF US, LIKE MY LITTLE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE A STAFF PERSON DEDICATED TO THIS, DOESN'T HAVE A MEMBER OF THE POLICE FORCE THAT'S DEDICATED TO THAT.
THIS, THEY PROBABLY DEAL IN ALL THIS.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY FOCUSED.
ALL OF US ALSO WITH VERY SPECIFIC HOW IT IS IN OUR, HOW IT IS HAP GOING ON, WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
HAS THIS BEEN DISCUSSED AT MAYOR MANAGERS AT ALL? IS IT ON THE AGENDA FOR PRIORITIES? I DON'T SEE NO.
REMEMBER MAYORS AND MANAGERS, OURS IS JUST A VERY GENERAL OVERALL DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE PERIODICALLY IT IS INCUMBENT ON COMMUNITIES.
IF THIS IS A KEY ISSUE YOU WANNA TRY TO ENGAGE US IN, START THAT CONVERSATION THERE.
OR, OR DURING, UM, EVEN YAVAPAI COUNTY OR VERDE VALLEY MAYORS AND MANAGERS GATHERINGS, UH, QUARTERLY CAN BRING THIS TOPIC UP.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY RIGHT ON ANNETTE, ISN'T IT?
AND, UH, ALSO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING A, UH, STANDALONE REGIONAL MEETING.
AND COTTONWOOD PULLING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC.
THE MAYOR'S MANAGERS MEETINGS ARE VERY SHORT AND IT'S REALLY JUST A ROUND TABLE UPDATE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THAT PHONE CALL TO REALLY GET INTO LIKE NEGOTIATING NO AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE OF THIS NATURE.
SO IT SEEMS THAT IT'D BE APPROPRIATE, UM, IF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE INTERESTED IN ALL OF THIS, THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO SET UP SPECIAL, UH, MEETINGS JUST ON THIS TOPIC.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, UH, GENTLEMEN THIS MORNING THERE WAS A QUESTION POSED TO YOU, UH, AT THE SPAC MEETING, AND, UH, THE PERSON, UH, SAID, GEE, IF IF 90% OF THE HOMELESS RESOLVE THEIR SITUATION WITHIN 12 MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE URGENCY? UH, AND IT MAY NOT PARA HAVE PARAPHRASED THAT EXACTLY.
BUT CAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? 'CAUSE THAT, THAT KIND OF WAS ONE OF MY BIG TAKEAWAYS WAS, WELL IF, IF 90% IS BEING, IF, IF THEY'RE SELF RESOLVING, WHAT ARE WE GETTING INVOLVED IN THEN? MM-HMM
I THINK THAT THE, THE EXPECTATION IS, UM, THAT YOU WANT A COMMUNITY THAT'S WELCOMING AND LIVABLE AND SAFE FOR EVERYONE.
UM, SO YOU, UM, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMUNITY LEADERS COULD DECIDE THAT SOME AMOUNT OF HOMELESSNESS IS OKAY TO LIVE WITH.
UM, SO YOU'RE WILLING TO LIVE WITH LESS THAN A YEAR.
UM, BUT IT REALLY IS JUST A QUESTION OF WHAT, WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR HOW YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY TO BE IN TERMS OF A WELCOMING, SAFE, APPROACHABLE,
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UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY, UM, AND PREVENTING, UM, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE PEOPLE FROM PROGRESSING INTO THAT, THAT FINAL CHRONIC CATEGORY, WHICH IS MUCH MORE DESTABILIZING INDIVIDUALLY, CERTAINLY, AND MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS THE LONG-TERM BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH.UM, AND OFTEN PAIRED WITH UNFORTUNATELY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND OTHER KINDS OF, OF UNWANTED ACTIVITIES.
SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHERE DO YOU DIRECT YOUR INVESTMENT? UM, UH, MODEST AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT ON THE UPFRONT SIDE, RECOGNIZING THAT SOME AMOUNT OF HOMELESSNESS MIGHT BE UNAVOIDABLE, BUT YOU COULD ACCELERATE THE EXIT OUT OF HOMELESSNESS FOR MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE AND PREVENT THEM FROM GRADUATING OR AGING INTO THAT EPISODIC AND CHRONIC CATEGORY.
I, I THINK THOUGH, THAT THERE IS A DISCONNECT IN YOUR LOGIC THERE, OR AT LEAST IN THE PERCEPTION BECAUSE THE, THE COMMUNITY SEES THE CHRONIC MM-HMM
RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE ADDRESSED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE 90% QUESTION IS THAT FOR THE TRANSITIONAL AND THE EPISODIC, IS THAT 90% ACROSS THE BOARD? BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT, THAT WE'RE CONNECTED WITH OUR RESIDENTS THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM TO ADDRESS IF 90% IS ACTUALLY SELF ADDRESSING.
I'M NOT SURE IF I ASKED A QUESTION THERE OR NOT EXACTLY, BUT I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WANTING TO ADDRESS THE PART THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY SEE, BUT THE COMMUNITY DOES WANT US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT THEY DO SEE THAT I THINK IS, IS REAL.
AND, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR EMPHASIS IS REALLY ON ADDRESSING WHAT WE DO SEE RIGHT NOW, WE'VE CRAFTED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE AROUND THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED.
UM, IN THE LAST COUNCIL SESSION, THE, THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS ON, UM, ON PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS, UH, HELPING FAMILIES THAT MAYBE ARE GOING BETWEEN LOSSES OF JOBS OR TRYING TO DEAL WITH HIGH RENT.
THAT WAS KIND OF A THEME THAT EMERGED THAT OF, OF INTEREST IN OUR, UM, CO COMMUNITY CONVERSATION IN COTTONWOOD, UH, THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS AND THE SURVEY THAT FOLLOWED ELEVATED INVESTMENTS IN THE FLEX FUND, WHICH IS TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS PRIMARILY, UM, LANDLORD ENGAGEMENT TO GET ACCESS TO UNITS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO COVER THE RENT, UM, AND COORDINATION AS THEIR TOP PRIORITIES.
AND IN OUR CONVERSATION TODAY WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, WHEN WE POLLED FOLKS' PRIORITIES ADDRESSING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS WAS THE BOTTOM ONE.
AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEING RESPONSIVE TO THAT.
BUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE, THE FLOW INTO HOMELESSNESS AND THROUGH THOSE THREE TYPOLOGIES, UM, IT IS TYPICALLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU INVEST IN, UH, ACROSS ALL THREE AREAS.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VISIBLY HOMELESSNESS, VISIBLY HOMELESS RIGHT NOW, THAT MAKES AN IMPACT ON YOUR COMMUNITY, UH, WHO WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND HAVE ALL THE, THE COMPLICATIONS THAT COME WITH CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
YOU WANNA START GETTING THOSE PEOPLE INTO A STABLE SETTING.
YOU ALSO WANNA PREVENT PEOPLE FROM MOVING THROUGH AND AGING INTO CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS OVER TIME.
AND SO I THINK WE AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THE REASON WE HAVEN'T IS, IS BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK SO FAR.
BUT REMEMBER, THE MEETING IN COTTONWOOD WAS PRIMARILY ELECTEDS STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NON-PROFITS.
I MEAN, THAT REALLY WAS NOT RESIDENT DRIVEN INPUT.
SO NATURALLY YOU'RE GONNA GET, UH, ESPECIALLY FROM THE, THE NONPROFITS, WELL OF COURSE WANNA SPEND MONEY ON, ON SERVICES.
UH, JUST IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC, I HAVE ONE CARD AND DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO, UH, I DID.
I HAVE ONE, I HAVE TWO CARDS, UH, UH, ONE FROM LINDA MARTINEZ, ONE FROM HOPE HOUSE.
I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE IN CASE COUNCIL DOESN'T KNOW WHO'S HERE.
SO I WANT TO SHARE THAT I DO BELIEVE, UM,
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DAVID BRIDGE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING IS ZOOMING IN ON TEAMS. UH, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES.WE HEARD FROM ANTHONY, ARIZONA COMPLETE HEALTH, UM, SPECTRUM, VERDE VALLEY HOMELESS COALITION.
RHONDA IS HERE, HOPE HOUSE, TERESA WEISS IS HERE.
WE DO HAVE, UM, SOMEBODY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, OFFICER OWENS, LIEUTENANT OWENS, SORRY.
UM, AND WE ALSO, WE HEARD FROM ROBIN, UH, FROM CLARKDALE, AND WE ALSO HAVE CLIFF BRYSON FROM CAMP VERDE, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED ANYBODY.
CAN, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, CAN YOU FILL OUT A CARD? WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD YOU TO THREE MINUTES, BUT CAN YOU FILL OUT A CARD SO WE HAVE THAT? IF YOU, ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT JEANIE JUST MENTIONED WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND THE CARDS ARE OVER THERE AT THAT DESK.
DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THE REST OF OUR PRESENTATION? NO, PETE, I'D BE WILLING TO WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TOO.
SO THE LA THE, THE LAST COUPLE SLIDES THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK THROUGH ARE ABOUT SEEKING COUNSEL'S DIRECTION ON NEXT STEPS.
THIS IS REALLY KINDA THE VISION STATEMENT FOR WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
BY MID 2026, WE HOPE TO HAVE A FULLY OPERATIONAL SHARED GOVERNANCE AND COST SHARING FRAMEWORK IN PLACE, ONE THAT MAKES HOMELESSNESS, RARE, BRIEF, AND NON-RECURRING ACROSS THE VERDE VALLEY.
THAT MEANS A COORDINATED SYSTEM WHERE AGENCIES USE COMMON TOOLS AND PROCESSES LIKE THE BY NAME LIST, FASTER HOUSING PLACEMENTS THAT ARE DRIVEN THROUGH REAL TIME DATA THROUGH THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
CONSISTENT ACCESS TO SERVICES REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE VALLEY.
AND TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH SHARED REPORTING AND OUTCOMES THROUGHOUT THE VERDE VALLEY SEDONAS PILOT PO PROGRAMS THAT, UH, WE'RE KIND OF PROPOSING INVESTMENTS IN, UM, ARE THE EARLY BUILDING BLOCKS FOR THIS REGIONAL RESPONSE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM COUNCIL TODAY IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION IN YOUR FEEDBACK WILL BE, BE SHAPING THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS WORK.
SO TO KINDA SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL TODAY IS TO CONFIRM OR SHARE FEEDBACK ON THE TIERS OR STRATEGIES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE REFINED FOR INCLUSION IN THE FINAL STRATEGIC PLAN TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON SEDONAS REGIONAL LEADERSHIP ROLE AND PARTNERSHIP APPROACH FOR THE REGION, AND TO ENDORSE THE CONTINUED WORK TOWARDS REGIONAL COORDINATION AND SHARED FUNDING.
NONE OF THIS IS FOR OFFICIAL VOTE, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO GUIDE YOU TOWARDS IN THE DISCUSSION.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION.
SO I'M, BEFORE COUNCIL DISCUSSES, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC.
SO MS. WISE, CAN YOU COME UP PLEASE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE THREE MINUTES
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT WITH ME.
MY NAME IS TER WEISS AND I'M A RESIDENT OF SEDONA, ARIZONA, PROUDLY.
UM, I'M ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HOPE HOUSE OF SEDONA.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE JUST STUCK WITH US ALL DAY, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER SINCE THIS MORNING, SOME OF US.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO FIRST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AROUND MYSELF, AND THAT IS TO SPEAK THAT I, UH, IN MY EARLY TWENTIES WAS ACTUALLY HOMELESS MYSELF.
SO THIS IS A CAUSE THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF MY LEGACY AND MY CHILDREN KNOW THIS AS PART OF MY LEGACY IS TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY, SEDONA, THAT CARES ENOUGH TO SIT IN SESSIONS ALL DAY LIKE THIS.
AND SO I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE LINES OF QUESTIONING AROUND IT.
AND ON THAT NOTE, I, I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE BEGINNINGS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT I'M LEARNING ABOUT.
UH, BECAUSE WHEN I GET ASKED ABOUT SOLVING THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS IN SEDONA, I, MY ANSWER IS ALWAYS THE SAME, WHICH IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ONE SOLUTION.
IT NEEDS TO BE A MULTIFACETED APPROACH.
AND AS SOMEBODY WITH A PUBLIC HEALTH BACKGROUND, I SEE THIS AS WE'VE BEEN PULLING PEOPLE OUT OF THE RIVER THAT ARE DROWNING AND PULLING THEM OUT AND PULLING THEM OUT, AND THEY JUST
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KEEP FALLING IN AND DROWNING.AND THIS APPROACH TO ME SHOWS US GOING UP RIVER AND STOPPING THE FOLKS FROM FALLING IN.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
UM, I DID WANNA SAY TWO OTHER REAL QUICK THINGS SINCE I'M NOT ON A TIMER.
AND THAT IS, UH, TO ADDRESS JUST A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THE BY NAME LIST.
I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE PLANNING THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT WE, AND I SAY WE AS IN WE, UM, SOME FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE AND MYSELF MEET BIWEEKLY AND WE GO OVER THE BY NAME LIST AT THIS POINT THROUGH OUR COC MEETING.
AND WE GET THAT, THAT LIST FROM THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT, UH, INFORMATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS MANAGED BY SOLARIS.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S KNOWN THAT WE ARE DOING THAT.
AND, UM, MAYBE RHONDA OR I WON'T BE ON THE CALL, UH, OR CATHOLIC CHARITY STAFF THAT'S HERE, BUT OUR STAFF IS IN THAT CALL AND WE GO OVER ALL OF OUR CLIENTS AND COORDINATE THE SERVICES AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
SO THAT IS BEING DONE AND OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING SERVED IN THAT WAY.
UM, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME, 'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE STUCK ON THIS 90% AND, UH, VICE MAYOR LTZ, IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, AND WHOEVER BROUGHT THAT QUESTION UP THIS MORNING, AND I DON'T WANNA LIKE SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON IT, SORRY.
BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO IGNORE IT.
UM, AND I AM JUST LIKE A NUMBERS WEIRDO, AND THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE WITH ME THIS MORNING KNOW THAT LIKE, I'M ALL ABOUT THE DATA AND WE PARTICIPATE IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POINT IN TIME AND WHAT THE CONSULTANTS DID WAS THAT WE COUNT ONE NIGHT A YEAR WHO'S UNHOUSED FOR THAT ONE NIGHT? AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURAL SYSTEM WORKS.
AND THEIR COUNT WAS OBVIOUSLY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, INDIVIDUALS AND NOT ONE NIGHT.
AND FOR THAT POINT IN TIME COUNTS, UH, YAVAPAI COUNTY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN THIS NUMBER BY CITY, BUT YAVAPAI COUNTY SURVEYED 296 INDIVID INDIVIDUAL, NOT INDIVIDUALS, HOUSEHOLDS, 296 HOUSEHOLDS, AND OF THOSE 96 OF THE HOUSEHOLDS HAD BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, SO HOMELESS FOR OVER THREE YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A FAIR DEFINITION OF CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I'M, I'M SURE THAT THAT NUMBER FOR THE YEAR IS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT A LOT MORE OF THESE DOWN IN A VAN BY THE RIVER POPULATION FOLKS.
BUT I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A LOT OF THE HOMELESSNESS THAT WE ARE SEEING AS PROVIDERS IS NOT RESOLVING ITSELF.
UM, IT'S, IT IS ABSOLUTELY CHRONIC AND, UM, IT'S LIKE A REVOLVING DOOR FOR US.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE KEEP YANKING 'EM OUT OF THE RIVER AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO GO UPSTREAM AND, AND START SOLVING THE PROBLEMS THERE.
CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOPE HOUSE? WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS? UH, DO YOU HAVE A WAITING LIST? YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE WERE SOME STRUGGLES AT THE BEGINNING.
THOSE HAVE BEEN RECTIFIED AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO ACHIEVE THAT.
BUT WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS? YOU ARE THE ONLY SHELTER THAT EXISTS IN THIS CITY.
WE ARE, AND WE ARE A NON-EMERGENCY SHELTER AT THIS JUNCTURE.
UNFOR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS, MAYOR.
UH, SO HOPE HOUSE OF SEDONA IS A COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING PROGRAM, AND SO WE'RE NOT JUST, UH, AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER.
WE HAVE SPECIFIC QUALIFICATIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WE, AT THIS TIME ARE ONLY ABLE TO TAKE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
UH, OUR, AS FAR AS OUR FUTURE PLANS GO, I ABSOLUTELY PLAN ON EXPANDING AND INCLUDING ALL OF THE POPULATIONS.
AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO SUSTAIN FUNDING FIRST.
WE
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S OCTOBER AND I'M ABOUT THREE QUARTERS FUNDED FOR THE YEAR, WHICH IS A LITTLE SCARY.
AND EVEN MORE SCARY IS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAVE BEEN THIS WELL FUNDED.
SO I THINK THAT SINCE THE WONDERFUL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT THAT THE CITY AWARDED US TO BUILD THE HOME HAPPENED, IT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE.
AND THAT'S WHY IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS ALL VOLUNTEER RUN, WHICH BROUGHT ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT THE MAYOR'S TALKING ABOUT.
AND WHEN THEY HIRED ME ON AS THEIR FIRST EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THAT WAS MY FIRST
SO WE HIRED STAFF, WE DEVELOPED STRUCTURE, WE DEVELOPED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND AN ACTUAL PROGRAM.
WE DO HAVE A WAITING LIST MOST
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OF THE TIME, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF BEING UNHOUSED AND IN CRISIS, THOSE FOLKS MOVE ON.SO IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN THAT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY COMES OFF OF OUR WAITING LIST INTO HOUSING WITH US.
BUT AS WE EXPLAINED, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER THIS MORNING, UH, WE ALSO DO THE COORDINATED ENTRY INTAKES FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES AT THIS TIME.
AND SO ONCE WE DO THAT, I'M TEXTING SOMEBODY OVER AT CATHOLIC CHARITIES HOUNDING THEM UNTIL THEY, UM, CONNECT WITH THE PERSON THAT I DID THE COORDINATED ENTRY FOR WHO HAS MY CELL NUMBER.
AND THEY'RE TEXTING ME CONSTANTLY.
SO WE'RE WORKING AS A TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT RAPID REHOUSING FUNDING GOES INTO, UH, THE, THE GOES TO THE FOLKS THAT NEED IT IN, IN ACTUAL SEDONA PROPER.
AND WE DON'T NEED TO GO OUTSIDE OF SEDONA TO FILL OUR HOME.
UH, WE GET CALLS ALL THE TIME FROM FOLKS IN OTHER STATES EVEN OR OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE WANTING TO MOVE TO SEDONA FOR SPIRITUAL REASONS AS A HOMELESS PERSON.
AND WE ABSOLUTELY LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT IS A BAD IDEA.
AND I, YOU KNOW, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A VERY STRICT GUIDELINE THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE BEEN UNHOUSED OR HOUSING INSECURE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA OR THE GREATER VERDE VALLEY AREA.
THIS SIDE OF MINGUS IS MY BIG RULE, BUT WE ALWAYS PRIORITIZE FOLKS THAT ARE IN SEDONA PROPER.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT SURE DOES.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE THE PHYSICAL, UM, CAPACITY TO EXPAND? IN OTHER WORDS, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ACTUALLY OWN ADDITIONAL, UH, LOT OR WE DO.
OUR LOT IS ZONED FOR ONE MORE HOME.
UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN CONFIDENT TO USE OUR RESERVES TO BUILD THAT HOME AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS NOT SUSTAINED.
AND I HAVE A VERY PRUDENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND BLESS THEM.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THEY ARE SO PRUDENT BECAUSE I WANNA HELP EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME.
AND SO IT'S A GOOD BALANCE FOR US.
AND MY GOAL IS TO EXPAND, TO START PLANS FOR EXPANSION IN 20 26, 20 27, UH, WHENEVER WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING FOR IT.
AND TO BUILD ONE MORE HOME WOULD ACTUALLY HOUSE THOUGH MORE THAN ONE FAMILY? CORRECT? IT WOULD BE THREE FAMILIES AGAIN, OR WE COULD HOUSE FOUR FAMILIES.
FOUR, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A LIVE-IN, IN OUR FOURTH ROOM IN OUR CURRENT, UH, BUILDING.
AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE LOT IS SUCH A, IT'S NOT SMALL, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE VISITED AND TOURED WITH US, US, WE CAN HANDLE ONE PERSON ON SITE TO MANAGE BOTH HOUSES OVERNIGHT.
AND FRANKLY, WE HOPE TO EXPAND IN OTHER WAYS AS FAR AS CRISIS GOES OR OUTREACH.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES AND THEIR OUTREACH TEAMS TO ENSURE THAT SEDONA IS GETTING THE RIGHT TYPE OF OUTREACH AND IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, THIS IS SOMETHING I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.
SO, UH, I I WANT TO HELP WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.
AND WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT, THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF TIME THAT SOMEONE CAN STAY AT HOPE HOUSE? SO IT'S, IT, THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY IS SIX MONTHS RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY CAN STAY UP TO TWO YEARS.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE WITH OUR PROGRAM BECAUSE WE'RE A COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING PROGRAM AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE US AND GO TO PERMANENT HOUSING AND WE DO THAT TOUCHPOINT AFTERWARDS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S PERMANENT HOUSING.
OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER WOULD BE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WITH THREE FAMILIES.
THEIR AVERAGE STAY IS SIX MONTHS.
SOMETIMES IT'S LESS BECAUSE WE DO GET THOSE TRANSITIONAL FOLKS THAT JUST NEED A LITTLE WHILE.
UH, WE GET THE EPISODIC MOST OFTEN AND THEN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET A CHRONIC AND THOSE CHRONICS WILL STAY FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE TO ONE AND A HALF YEARS, BUT THEY CAN STAY UP TO TWO YEARS.
IF SOMEBODY'S LIKE A COUPLE THOUSAND AWAY FROM SAVING UP FOR THAT DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOUSE, THEY'RE MEETING ALL THEIR GOALS, THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE HOUSEHOLD.
WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK THEM TO LEAVE RIGHT AT THAT TWO YEAR MARK.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THEIR TRANSITION IS SUCCESSFUL.
DO YOU HAVE FUNDS FOR, FOR HELPING THEM TO ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, RENT DEPOSITS OR THE DOWN PAYMENT? SO WE, UH, WELL WE WORK WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA IN THEORY WITH THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
IF AND WHEN WE GET A RESIDENT THAT'S READY TO BUY, UH, WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS FROM THE BANKS THAT DO FINANCIAL, UH, PLANNING AND BUDGETING WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
AND, UH, WE WORK WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO HOPEFULLY ACCESS THOSE RE RAPID REHOUSING DOLLARS.
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THE TIME COMES.NOW THAT THE FUNDS ARE GETTING READY TO ROLL OUT FOR SEDONA, UH, OUR RESIDENTS ARE ON THE BY NAME LIST AND WE DISCUSS THEM EVERY TWO WEEKS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE TEAM HAS AN UPDATE ON THEM AND KNOWS WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE READY TO ROLL.
DEREK, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FROM MS. WISE? UH, YEAH.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK NUMBER FOR? WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BUILD WHAT YOU WANNA BUILD IN TERMS OF AN ADDITIONAL HOUSE? THE SECOND, I THINK THAT OUR FIRST HOUSE WAS 350,000.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE GRANT, THE CDBG GRANT WAS FOR.
I'M GETTING THE NOD FROM JEANIE.
HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? THAT WAS FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
SO WE'RE IN OUR LAST YEAR OF REPORTING.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK OF IS I CAME IN AFTER WE GOT THE GRANT AND I'VE GOTTEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH JEANIE THROUGH OUR REPORTING, OUR QUARTERLY REPORTS TO THEM.
UH, IT WAS RIGHT AT, I THINK WE BUILT THE HOME DURING COVID.
AND SO THE COST WAS PRETTY HIGH.
WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE SOME REALLY AMAZING CONTRACTOR BUILDERS THAT, UH, WERE DEDICATED TO MAKING SURE WE GOT SOME GOOD PRICES AND HOPEFULLY THAT THE SAME TYPE OF THING WILL HAPPEN.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR AND YOU'VE, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO,
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THIS COORDINATION WORK AND TEXTING BACK AND FORTH AND PEOPLE CONTACTING YOU, IS THAT ONLY FAMILIES THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH? I KNOW THAT YOU ONLY HOUSE FAMILIES, BUT ALL THE REST OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKING SO ELOQUENTLY ABOUT, IS THAT JUST WITH, DO THE PEOPLE FAMILIES GET IN ON YOUR RADAR OR IS IT REALLY THIS COORDINATED ENTRY AND YOU'LL WORK SOME WITH EVERYBODY, BUT ONLY HOW FAMILIES? SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND WE DID TOUCH ON IT THIS MORNING, BUT I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS AND I'M FEELING MUCH, I'VE HAD MORE CAFFEINE THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, SO JUST TO REITERATE, WE, FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2025, WE ASSISTED 98 INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
AND SO THAT IS THE FOLKS THAT WE HOUSE WITHIN OUR HOME AND ALSO THE FOLKS THAT WE DO WARM HANDOFFS WITH.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A COORDINATED ENTRY AND THEN ENSURING THAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS CONNECTED TO THEM AND IN CONTACT WITH THEM BEFORE WE LET GO.
BUT IT ALSO MIGHT BE GETTING THEM INTO VERDE VALLEY SANCTUARY OR STEPPING STONES IF THERE IS IMMINENT DANGER INVOLVED.
'CAUSE WE ARE NOT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER, ALTHOUGH WE DO END UP, MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE A HISTORY OF DV.
UH, IT CANNOT BE WITHIN, UH, THE LAST YEAR OR AN IMMINENT THREAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE BODYGUARDS THERE.
SO A LOT OF OUR NUMBERS COME FROM OUR HOTLINE.
UH, I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT ENDED UP THAT WAY.
IT WASN'T THAT WAY WHEN I STARTED, BUT I, I THINK FOR ME, WHEN I SEE A NEED, WE JUST FILL IT AND THEN THERE WAS A NEED IN SEDONA, LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO? WHERE DO WE GO TO AVOID BECOMING CHRONICALLY HOMELESS OR FALLING INTO A DEEPER CRISIS? AND SO WE JUST STARTED ANSWERING THE CALLS.
AND THEN MATT, SORT OF TO YOU, OF YOUR 64 OR 600 NUMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF FAMILIES AND YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE IN FAMILIES IN THOSE NUMBERS? UH, WE CAN ONLY ESTIMATE BASED ON, UM, THE PROPORTION OF FAMILIES AND OTHER SIMILAR SIZED JURISDICTIONS.
AND IT'S TYPICALLY IN THE RANGE OF 60 TO 70% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION ARE SINGLE ADULTS.
UH, AND THEN THE REST OF THE POPULATION IS COMPRISED OF PEOPLE IN HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE DEPENDENT CHILDREN OR FAMILIES.
ARE WE READY FOR DISCUSSION? OH, LINDA MARTINEZ.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LINDA MARTINEZ, RESIDENT OF SEDONA.
UM, I WAS JUST ON THE, THE, UH, I'M ON THE BOARD OF HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT I THINK ARE ARE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN HOUSING, UM, THE HOMELESS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY VULNERABLE.
UM, IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF IDEAS.
I KNOW MY, MY NIECE PARTICULARLY WHO LIVES IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, HER HUSBAND RECENTLY LOST HIS JOB.
SO THEY LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
AND WITHOUT THIS, THIS KIND OF A CIRCLE OF CARE, UM, THEY WOULD'VE LOST THEIR HOME.
I MEAN, THEY'RE THAT VULNERABLE.
AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, HE DID WORK FOR HOME DEPOT REPAIRING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CORPORATE OFFICE, REPAIRING MACHINES
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AND NOW WORKS FOR A, A HOTEL.SO IT WAS REALLY A TOUGH, TOUGH SITUATION FOR THEM.
THEY HAVE AN, UH, AN, UH, A CHILD WHO LIVES WITH THEM AND, UH, MY NIECES, UH, HAS SOME DISABILITIES.
SO I MEAN, IT HAPPENED IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE AND THERE ARE JUST NO SAVINGS.
THEY DON'T MAKE ENOUGH AT, AT, AT $26 AN HOUR.
THEY CAN JUST BARELY MAKE THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR BILLS.
UM, BUT A COUPLE OF SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS THAT HOUSING SOLUTIONS HAVE HAD, AND YOU PROBABLY, MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THEM, BUT YOU MAY NOT HAVE.
SO ONE IS CALLED, UH, SHARE AND MANOR, AND IT IS TRANSITIONAL LIVING FOR WOMEN OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
UM, THEY HAVE CHILDREN UP THERE, THERE'S ABOUT 27 UNITS.
I'D BE OFF BY A COUPLE OF NUMBERS HERE AND THERE, SO JUST PRETEND I'M ON TARGET.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN GOING FOR 25 YEARS.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO BE THERE TWO YEARS AND THEY'RE MOVING THEM OUT INTO PERMANENT HOUSING AND, AND OFFERING ALL THE SERVICES.
UH, CATHOLIC CHARITIES COMES IN.
THE PARTNERSHIPS, AS MS. WEISS HAS SAID, HAS BEEN SO, HAS BEEN VERY DEEP, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, JOJO'S PLACE, UH, 44 UNITS IN FLAGSTAFF.
IT WAS A HOTEL CONVERSION ON ROUTE 66, AND IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR A YEAR AND IT'S GOING VERY WELL.
THE MONEY, UH, TO PURCHASE IT AND TO RE AND TO REHAB THE ENTIRE HOTEL WAS DONE WAS FROM ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
IT WAS COVID MONEY TO TRY TO HELP THE HOMELESS DURING COVID.
THAT IS ALSO THE MONEY THAT FUNDED THE PURCHASE OF OAK WASH IN COTTONWOOD.
AND YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT, HAVE YOU SEEN IT OR DRIVEN BY? IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO MCDONALD'S AND, UM, IT HAS BEEN OPEN NOW FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS, WOULD YOU SAY? SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS.
AND, UM, AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF PUTTING OUR OFFER IN TO BUY WESTERN HILLS HOTEL, UH, ON ROUTE 66.
AND A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER CAME IN AND REHABBED ALL OF THE UNITS AND THAT WILL BE ABOUT 36 UNITS THERE WITH SOMEHOW THEY, THEY INHERITED A MEXICAN RESTAURANT.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S GOING QUITE WELL.
SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ONE CLOSEST TO US OAK WASH.
SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
UM, I, WE HAVE IN THAT ONE THERE ARE, THERE HAVE BEEN 32 FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HOUSED.
MOST ARE JUST THE, THE LITTLE SMALL STUDIOS.
THEY ALL HAVE NEW KITCHENS, NEW FLOORING, NEW FANS, A TELEVISION, A QUEEN BED, A A TABLE, ET CETERA.
OH, AND I WANNA SAY THAT, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE THE, WHO QUALIFY THE RENTERS ARE, UH, RHONDA AND HER GROUP AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES AND ANYBODY ELSE.
UM, SO THEY HAVE 32 HOUSEHOLDS, WHICH REPRESENTS 38 PEOPLE, AND IT INCLUDES FOUR CHILDREN.
THEY CHARGE 30.4% OR THEY, UH, OF THEIR, OF 31% OF THEIR INCOME GOES TO RENT AND UTILITIES, THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IF THEY WANT IT IS INTERNET.
UH, THEY MAKE ABOUT 30% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
THE AVERAGE INCOME IS $19,172.
THERE WERE TWO CHRONICALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.
THE AVERAGE AGE IS 57 AND IT'S GOING UP 62 YEARS AND OLDER IS WHAT THEY'RE SEEING NOW AT 66% OF THEM ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.
11 OF THEM ARE WORKING, MANY OF THEM ARE RETIRED OR DISABLED.
11 WORKING SEVEN IN COTTONWOOD FOR, IN SEDONA AT THIS POINT IN TIME, A FEW HAVE NEEDED MEDICAL EMERGENCIES, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR THINGS THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE IT ALL FALLS INTO LINE.
TWO HAVE HAD TREATMENT FOR CANCER, ONE HAS HAD BACK SURGERY.
I ASKED ABOUT, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIG THING THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS CRIME.
HOW IS THAT GOING? WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU KNOW? WELL, THE POLICE CHIEF HAS JERMAINE BARKLEY, WHO IS, WHO ACTUALLY DOES ALL OF THE, THE, THE TENANTS.
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OF EVERYTHING, ALL THE REPAIRS.UM, THEY HAVE HIS PERSONAL CELL PHONE AND IT RINGS ONLY IF A TENANT HAS CALLED.
AND IT IS, THEY'VE CALLED TO SAY THAT A TRESPASSER WAS ON, HE'S NOT, TWO TIMES NOT INVITED GUESTS.
SO THEY CALLED THE POLICE AND THEY REMOVED THE PERSON.
I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT POLLYANNA, BUT THE REALITY IS THERE HAVE BEEN NO CALLS FOR ANY PROBLEMS. AND IN FACT, UH, ONE OR TWO OF TWO OF THEM ARE ON PROBATION AND THEY SEE THEIR PROBATION OFFICER.
SO THAT CAN GIVE YOU, HE SAID IT'S BEEN QUIET AND, AND THEY'RE VERY GRATEFUL, UH, FOR ALL OF THAT.
SO THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE PICTURE OF HOW WAS IT, HOW IT'S GOING IN OAK WASH.
AND BY THE WAY, THE, UM, THE PARKING OVERHANG HAS, HAS SOLAR NOW.
THEY, THEY WRITE FOR GRANTS ALL THE TIME AND THERE ARE SOLAR PANELS.
SO FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT, UH, THE UNITS THAT THEY DO OWN AND MANAGE, UM, THEY ASKED HOW MUCH HAVE THEY AB HOW MUCH HAVE THEY SAVED THE TENANTS LAST YEAR AND THE AMOUNT OF $759,000, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE PAID HAD THEIR RENTS BEEN MARKET RATE.
SO THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND IT GIVES PEOPLE A CHANCE TO BREATHE TO GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED AND TO GET ON THEIR FEET.
SO I GUESS I ASKED THE QUESTION IS, WHAT COULD SOME OF OUR AGENCIES HERE THAT ARE WORKING SO HARD BEHIND THE SCENES, WHAT COULD THEY DO WITH MORE FUNDING? I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST STRUGGLING.
I MEAN, I, I HEARD, YOU KNOW, UM, TRULIA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S AT 75% OF HER BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
WHAT COULD THEY DO WITH MORE FUNDING? WE ASKED THAT QUESTION.
WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? ANOTHER THING IS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE AN AUNT TO HELP 'EM, PERHAPS WHEN THEY HAVE A HARD TIME, THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT USED TO BE AROUND, I CAN REMEMBER READING THE BOOK, MAYBE YOU DID TOO.
IT'S CALLED CIRCLE OF CARE, AND IT WAS WRITTEN BY A DOCTOR WHO RETIRED TO HILTON HEAD BECAUSE ALL HE WANTED TO DO HIS, HIS DREAM OF RETIREMENT WAS TO PLAY GOLF EVERY DAY.
AND, AND HE, AND HE BORED HIMSELF, AND HE HAPPENED TO SEE SOME PERSON OUTSIDE WHEN IT WAS POURING RAIN.
AND HE STOPPED TO GIVE HIM A RIDE, AND THE MAN WAS GOING TO FIND A DOCTOR.
UM, AND HE HAD NO TRANSPORTATION, AND HE BASICALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY HELP WHATSOEVER.
SO HE STARTED THIS PROGRAM CALLED CIRCLE OF CARE, WHICH I, I MEAN, IF WE THINK ABOUT SEDONA AS A CARING COMMUNITY, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO SAY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? AND YOU CAN TURN IT BACK ON US.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SO A CIRCLE OF CARE WOULD BE THAT, UH, PEOPLE WHO WOULD, WHO CARE ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE, I FORGET THE TERM EPISODIC, THAT'S IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER, ALL OF 'EM, LET'S JUST SAY ALL THREE OF THEM.
BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY MIGHT HELP FIND, THEY MEET WITH THE FAMILY REGULARLY.
MAYBE IT'S MONTHLY, MAYBE IT'S EVERY OTHER MONTH.
MAYBE IT'S AN EMERGENCY BASIS.
BUT YOU HAVE A, UH, SOMEBODY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, SOMEBODY FROM A MEDICAL TEAM, AND YOU HAVE CITY ELDERS.
AND I LOVE THAT BECAUSE AS IN THE CASE OF MY NIECE AND, AND HER HUSBAND, THEY NEEDED NEW TIRES.
THEY CAN'T MAKE THE RENT AND BUY NEW TIRES.
BUT WHAT THE CIRCLE OF CARE WOULD DO IS TO FIND OUT WHICH TIRE DEALERSHIP WOULD TAKE PAYMENTS.
YOU CAN'T TAKE 'EM TO MOST OF THE DAYCARES WHO CAN TAKE A CHILD WHEN THEY MIGHT BE SICK, THAT IT'S THAT KIND OF THING.
THEY, THEY GIVE THEM THAT LITTLE BIT OF GETTING ON THEIR FEET, AND LITTLE BY LITTLE, THEY START TO LEARN IT.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT I THINK WE CAN DO, WE CAN LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE.
IT'S SO BIG AND IT'S SO DEEP, AND I AM JUST GLAD WE'RE TAKING OUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.
I, I AM SORRY TO I TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT DAVID BRIDGE FROM ARIZONA HOUSING IS ON THE, THE VIDEO CONFERENCE AND MAKE SURE HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST PUBLIC COMMENT IF HE'S INTERESTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S INTERESTED.
DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS.
JUST, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
WE'RE WORKING ON AN EMERGENCY SITUATION BASED ON THE FLOODING IN
BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, I THINK THE COMMUNITY'S GOING DOWN THE RIGHT STEPS.
I HEARD REFERENCES TO FUNDING AND FUNDING IS ALWAYS A BARRIER, BUT I'LL
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TELL YOU, IN MY OPINION, THE HARDEST ISSUE IS, IS THE COMMUNITY COLLABORATION COMING UP WITH THE PRIORITIES AND THE, AND THE, AND THE GOVERNANCE.I THINK I HEARD MAYOR PARKDALE MENTION OF WHO'S GONNA RUN THIS.
AND THAT REALLY IS ONE OF THE HARDEST, UH, UH, ISSUES.
WHAT I CAN OFFER IS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN.
UM, HARRIS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING FUNDS THE LOCAL COALITION TO HOME, UH, UH, TO AND HOMELESSNESS, UH, IN, IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
UH, THAT INCLUDES FUNDS THAT WE GIVE EACH YEAR FOR THIS COORDINATION ACTIVITY.
UM, WE DO FUND THE BY NAME LIST PROCESS, THE HMIS PROCESSES, AND THE DATA COLLECTION AND THE PIT COUNTS, AND ALL THOSE DATA POINTS THAT YOU HEARD ARE PART OF OUR HUD COORDINATION.
UM, AND SO WHAT I COULD OFFER IS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IS ANY, ANY HELP WE CAN PROVIDE WITH COORDINATION, WITH DATA, WITH, UM, WITH ANY RESOURCES WE HAVE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE, WE'RE AT YOUR DISPOSAL.
UM, BUT YOU, I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
IT'S, IT'S THIS GOVERNANCE PIECE THAT IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE.
AND PUTTING MONEY INTO A BAD SYSTEM DOESN'T, DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING.
IT'S REALLY BUILDING THAT SYSTEM OF CARE THAT EVERYBODY'S REFERRING TO THAT'S MOST CRITICAL.
ARE WE READY FOR DISCUSSION? YES.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I'M LOOKING
I DON'T SEE ANY RAISED HANDS HERE.
OH, DEREK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM FOR THE ENTIRE VERDE VALLEY WITHOUT A LOT OF COORDINATION AND A LOT OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
UM, WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THEM AND GET BUY-IN AND FROM THEM.
UM, I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE RESOURCES IN SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.
UM, SO I THINK THE REALITY IS WE MAY BE PICKING UP MORE THAN OUR SHARE.
IT'S A, IT'S A REGIONAL PROBLEM.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE OUGHT BE DOING OUR PART AS LONG AS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO DO THEIR PART AS WELL.
UM, LOCALLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO.
UH, WE COULD BE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, MORE MONEY TOWARD HOPE HOUSE.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THEM TO BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE.
UM, BUT YOU WERE WRITING THE CHEST
BUT, BUT I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS, AND YOU KNOW, LINDA SPOKE ABOUT SOME PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES TO ACT TO DO SOMETHING.
UM, SO I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE HEARING FROM ME AT THE PRIORITY SESSION, UH, ABOUT PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AT THE VERY LOCAL LEVEL.
UM, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COORDINATION.
WE HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE OTHER, THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND GET THEIR BUY-IN ON THIS.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ALL ALONE.
BUT FOR THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO HERE ON OUR OWN, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT.
IF WE CAN SPEND HOWEVER MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE SPEND ON SHARED USE PATHS, WE CAN SPEND SOME MONEY ON THIS.
DO YOU HAVE A VIEW OF WHICH TIER YOU WANNA FOCUS ON? I WOULD PROBABLY GO UP TO THE SECOND TIER.
UM, THE THIRD, I'M NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF IT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, OKAY, WE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THE THIRD TIER PLAN.
WELL WHAT IF IF WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN AFFORD IT, DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING FOR IT FOR THE WHOLE VERDE VALLEY? SO I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY AIM TOWARD THE SECOND TIER AND UH, IF IT WORKS OUT WELL, MAYBE WE STEP IT UP.
BUT, UM, AND I REALIZE THE PUBLIC IS MAINLY, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC PRIMARILY I THINK WANTS US TO DEAL WITH THE CHRONIC HOMELESS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THEY SEE ON THE STREETS.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT'S NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, YOU KNOW, HELPING THE TRANSITIONAL AND EPISODIC HOMELESS ARE PROBABLY THE BEST BET.
THE PUBLIC'S GONNA SAY, YOU SPENT ALL THIS MONEY, AND THAT GUY'S STILL SITTING ON THE STREET CORNER BEGGING FOR MONEY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, LOOK, THERE'S, FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT YOU SEE, THERE'S 20 PEOPLE YOU DON'T SEE.
AND YOU KNOW, THE SMART WAY TO SPEND THE MONEY IS TO START WITH THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WE COULD LIFT UP MORE EASILY.
SO, BUT YEAH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY TIER TWO.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, OUR GUESTS, UM, REGARDING THE TIERS.
UH, I WANT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT BASICALLY, IF, IF YOU, UM, PUT ALL THE TIER TOGETHER BRINGS US UP TO OVER $2 MILLION, AND
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YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S JUST SEDONA SHARE, SO IT'S LIKE A $20 MILLION.UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE REALISTIC NUMBER TO ADDRESS THIS ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'VE LAID OUT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF BUY-IN YOU WERE GONNA GET FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN, UH, ADDRESS THIS ONLY ONE COMMUNITY AT A TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING WHACK-A-MOLE, RIGHT? AND MOVING PEOPLE ALONG, OR WHAT'S ADDRESSED OR WHAT ISN'T.
WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF, THERE'S A CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN VOICED THAT WHEN YOU OFFER SERVICES, PEOPLE COME TO SEEK SERVICES.
SO YOU DON'T ALSO WANNA BE THE ONLY COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEN ARE YOU AN ATTRACTANT? UM, THAT THAT'S, SOME PEOPLE HAVE THAT POSITION.
I'M NOT SURE, I HAVEN'T SEEN DOCUMENTATION OF THAT THAT CONVINCES ME, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, IS OUT THERE AS A CONCERN AND CRITICISM.
UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THESE TIERS AND IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THEM, 'CAUSE I DON'T, AND AGAIN, COUNSELORS IS CORRECT THAT THIS, A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION IS GONNA HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN OUR, IN OUR BUDGET PRIORITY SETTING WORKSHOPS THAT WE DO.
BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT BUILDING THESE ON EACH OTHER, DID YOU LAY THESE OUT IN A WAY THAT TIER ONE COULD BE DONE STANDALONE TO SEE A SUCCESS RATE TO THEN MOVE IN A YEAR OR TWO TO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU SAID BEFORE, BUT, SO I DON'T WANNA BE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, $2 MILLION, SEDONA, $20 MILLION REGIONAL NUMBER.
I WANNA BE LOOKING AT THIS 325,000 NUMBER, WHICH IS IN TIER ONE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE DOABLE NUMBER WHEN WE'RE HAVING OUR, OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
SO I WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW THESE TIERS PLANK ON EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF A FOUNDATIONAL BASE.
I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY HOW THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED.
UH, THE, EACH INVESTMENT, UH, LAYERED ON TOP OF THE, THE PREVIOUS ONE BUILDS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM.
AND IT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTELY, UM, PRUDENT APPROACH TO MAKE AN INITIAL INVESTMENT, SAY AT TIER ONE, LEVEL TRACK OUTCOMES, UH, UH, UH, DOCUMENT WHERE THERE ARE SUCCESSES AND WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES OR CHALLENGES.
AND THEN REDIRECT RESOURCES FOLLOWING THAT.
ONCE YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING, UM, EACH ONE HAS SUCCESSIVELY MORE IMPACT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT TO SUGGEST THAT IF YOU MADE AN INVESTMENT AT THAT TIER ONE LEVEL, UM, THAT IT WOULDN'T, UH, TRANSFORM THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHO DID, UH, EXIT HOMELESSNESS QUICKLY, UH, PREVENTED HOMELESSNESS ENTIRELY IN SOME CASES, UM, ARRESTED THEIR GRADUATION INTO THE EPISODIC CATEGORY.
IT WOULD STILL BE IMPACTFUL, UM, EVEN IF YOU WERE, UH, INVESTING AT THE TIER ONE AND THEN TRACK WHAT'S WORKING WELL AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND FURTHER INVESTMENT BASED ON THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY SOUND.
AND ANOTHER QUESTION IN THAT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TIER ONE AND YOUR ESTIMATED OUTCOMES ARE 20 TO 35 HOUSEHOLD STABILIZED THROUGH THE FLEX FUND AND THE CRISIS HOUSING, WHICH PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM HERE TODAY, UM, W WOULD THAT BE, WOULD BE THE RECIPIENTS OF THE MONEY THAT GIVE US THAT 20 TO 35 STABILIZATION NUMBER? IS IT HOPE HOUSE? IS IT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
UNDER WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, I THINK, UM, WE'VE HEARD GREAT EXAMPLES.
UM, AND PROBABLY THOSE INVESTMENTS COULD BENEFIT ALL OF THE EXAMPLES, ALL OF THE STORIES THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY.
THERE MIGHT BE FAMILIES THAT ARE AT HOPE HOUSE, UM, AND THEY'D LIKE TO ACHIEVE GREATER, UH, INDEPENDENCE.
UH, THEY WOULD RATHER BE IN THEIR OWN HOME AND THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY SAVING ENOUGH MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THAT, UH, DOWN PAYMENT OR GET THAT UTILITIES, THE UTILITIES TURNED ON.
UM, SO THE FLEX FUND RECRUITMENT OF LANDLORDS SECURING THOSE UNITS IS GONNA ACCELERATE, UM, EXITS OUT OF HOPE HOUSE SO THAT THEY THEN HAVE CAPACITY TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING IN LINE TO GET IN.
IT JUST IS, IT'S INCREASING THE THROUGHPUT AND THE EFFICIENCY AND THE IMPACT OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
CERTAINLY FAMILIES AT, AT, UH, HOPE HOUSE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT TIER ONE INVESTMENT.
THAT, OKAY, YOU ANSWERED THAT BECAUSE I GUESS WHAT, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS UNDER THE KEY COMPONENTS, THE FLEX FUND, THE LANDLORD RECRUITMENT RISK RULE, AND THE CRISIS HOUSING EXPANSION, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE AS A PART OF ANYTHING THAT WE MAY EVENTUALLY DECIDE TO DO, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, CLOSURE ON THAT TODAY, BUT I WOULD WANNA KNOW, I WOULD WANNA KNOW FROM ANYBODY WHO'S RECEIVING FUNDING FROM SEDONA, WHICH FACET OF THIS, THEIR ADDRESSING
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AND HOW THE MONIES THEN, SO I COULD SAY, OKAY, THIS CREATED FOUR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, UH, IN A TRANSITION TO GET EVENTUALLY TO PERMANENT HOUSING WHERE I COULD SAY THIS MONEY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED THIS, UM, UH, STOP GAPP MEASURE TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM LOSING THEIR HOME.I MEAN, I, I I, I WANNA SEE MORE SPECIFIC LINKS.
I WANNA UNDERSTAND THE DOLLARS, LIKE EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE BEING SPENT AND WHAT, WHAT RESULT WE WOULD EXPECT ON INVESTMENT.
USUALLY WE SAY ROI RETURN ON INVESTMENT, I'M LOOKING FOR THE RESULT, LIKE A DESCRIPTION, NOT, NOT A, NOT A DATA NUMBER.
WELL, WE ALSO HAVEN'T HEARD FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES WHO, WHO ARE HERE AND WHO ARE PROVIDING ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
AND I THINK EARLIER WE SAID THAT IF WE GAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES, THEY COULD INCREASE THE SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING.
GOOD EVENING, SARAH RONE, UM, RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF.
I THINK, UM, HAPPY TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION ALONGSIDE SOME AMAZING COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
I THINK CERTAINLY IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO BE PROVIDED, CATHOLIC CHARITIES WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, WE HAVE SERVED IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, ASIDE FROM OUR CURRENT NEW CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA FOR MANY YEARS, PROVIDING, UM, A LOT OF THE SERVICES LISTED WITHIN THESE TIERS.
UM, NOT ALWAYS EMERGENCY SERVICES, BUT OF COURSE, AS JEANNIE MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE THAT $15,000 COLD WEATHER HOTEL GRANT RIGHT NOW.
UM, WHICH AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S NO PARTICULAR STIPULATION IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE WEATHER AND HOW WE WOULD USE THAT.
I THINK WE WOULD JUST RESPOND OR RELY ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO, UM, CONTACT US AND IF THEY SAW A NEED, THEN WE WOULD ROLL THAT OUT.
BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED IN ANY CONVERSATIONS REGARDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
DEREK, AND THEN PETE AND THEN MELISSA.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY NEED TO BE THE, BE PREPARED OR AT LEAST DISCUSSED WHETHER WE'RE PREPARED TO LEAD THE CHARGE ON THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, START OUT AT THE TIER ONE AND LIKE YOU SAID, SEE WHAT WORKS, SEE WHAT DOESN'T WORK, AND THEN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO TRY TO GET THEIR BUY-IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE THE FIRST TO KICK FLOCK TO THE CURB.
WE MAY HAVE TO BE THE FIRST TO KNOW, LEAD THE CHARGE ON THIS FOR THE VERDE VALLEY.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE I, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES MAY SAY, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GONNA WORK.
WE DON'T WANT TO COMMIT A BUNCH OF MONEY TO THIS, AND THEN WE ALL GO DOWN TOGETHER.
AND THE BIG QUESTION, REALLY, ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS, THERE'S MANY BIG QUESTIONS IN THIS TOPIC, IS ABOUT LEADERSHIP.
AND YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BROUGHT IT UP AND YOU'VE BROUGHT IT UP AND WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP.
AND IT'S A REALLY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION HERE.
AND ONE SPECIFICALLY I STRUGGLE WITH IS KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COUNTY'S ROLE IS HERE.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE FUNCTIONS OF GOVERNMENT THAT THE COUNTY HAS MORE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH SORT OF LEADERSHIP ROLE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF AT THE VERY FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO DO AND ENGAGE HERE.
UM, AND LIKE COUNCILLOR FFA SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH SEDONA TAKING THE LEAD IN SOME OF THIS STUFF.
WE ARE A WEALTHIER COMMUNITY AND WE CAN AFFORD TO DO SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT WE CAN, I DON'T WANNA PUSH THE BALL ALL THE WAY UP THE HILL JUST ON SEDONAS BACK.
UH, I MIGHT BE OKAY WITH CONTINUING TO FUND SOME OF THIS WHO'S ON FIRST LEADERSHIP DISCUSSIONS.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GET TO COMMITTING TO WHAT TIER I WANNA BE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE LANDSCAPE WANTS TO BE.
I THINK I ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S SOME BENEFITS OF SCALE DISCUSSION.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, OF WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE NUMBER IS SIX IN SEDONA, SIX ISN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SPIN UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE FOR JUST AN ISOLATED COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHERE TO SPEND THE MONEY, I THINK THERE'S SOME NATURAL THINGS THAT WE MIGHT SAY AS A COMMUNITY, LET'S TAKE THIS ON AND LET'S NOT DO THAT.
IT'S NOT WORTH OUR TIME OR INVESTMENT OR
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IT'S TOO HARD, OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA PHRASE THAT WITHOUT BEING TOO, UH, STRICT ABOUT IT.UM, I KEEP, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE COUNTY AND I THINK ABOUT THE STORIES WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PROVIDERS, AND I THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY SPENDING IN OUR CITY ON THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW? I DON'T THINK I HAVE MY FINGERS ON THAT NUMBER, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE PROVIDED THAT OVER TIME WITH US, BUT I CAN'T PUT MY FINGERS ON IT TODAY AND I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THERE'S PROGRAMS AND THERE'S STAFF AND RIGHT, YOU GUYS, RIGHT? WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON THINKING ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
AND, AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS, BUT THEN THAT COUPLES WITH THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THIS ALL COSTS.
TIER THREE MIGHT BE 2 MILLION OR 20 MILLION VERDE VALLEY WIDE, BUT THAT'S ON TOP OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEING SPENT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS CURRENTLY BEING SPENT, AND THAT KIND OF SCALES FOR ME IS, ARE WE LOOKING TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE AMOUNT, OR THIS IS JUST 25% MORE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
AND I KNOW THAT TO GET TO THESE NUMBERS, YOU'VE TRIED TO ESTIMATE HOW MUCH MONEY IS SPENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS AND, AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I SUSPECT FROM THE STORIES I HEAR OUT HERE THAT THE WEB IS REALLY COMPLEX AND THERE'S FEDERAL MONEY AND STATE MONEY AND CHARITY MONEY.
AND I MEAN, IT MIGHT COME FROM EVERYWHERE AND IT MIGHT BE REALLY HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THIS PICTURE, BUT THAT WILL INFLUENCE THE WAY I THINK ABOUT THE TIERS AND HOW MUCH MONEY, I'M WILLING TO SAY, UH, THAT THE CITY OF SEDONA, UM, MIGHT WANNA SPEND.
BUT CERTAINLY I'M A BELIEVER IN WALK BEFORE YOU RUN AND REALLY HAVING SOME RESULTS ORIENTED METRICS.
RESULTS ORIENTED METRICS, NOT JUST ACTIVITY BASED METRICS TO PROVE TO OURSELVES PERHAPS AND THE REST OF THE VERDE VALLEY IN THE COUNTY AND OTHERS OF, AND OUR RESIDENTS OR TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VALUE OF THE ACTIVITY IS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT EMBARK UPON.
SO THAT HAS TO BE A REAL KEY PART OF THIS.
SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN COMMIT TO CERTAIN NUMBERS YET.
IT SEEMS TO BE REALLY COMPLEX RESTATING, I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE IN SOME DIRECTION.
BUT THIS OUTREACH PART, AND I THINK SPECIFICALLY THE COUNTY, MAYBE THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANNA DO ANYTHING HERE AND IT'S WASHING HIS HANDS, BUT I NEED TO HEAR THAT FROM THEM BEFORE I CAN THINK MUCH MORE ABOUT WHERE TO GO.
SO, WELL, I THINK THIS MORNING THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNTY TALKED ABOUT, UH, VOUCHERS.
SHE SAID THERE WAS A WAITING LIST.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S LOTS OF COUNTY ACTIVITY, BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT REALLY IS LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE HERE.
WHO'S GONNA BE DRIVING THE BUS AND EVERYONE'S GOTTA BE ON THE BUS AND WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A TURN DRIVING IT, RIGHT? YOU CAN COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF METAPHORS, BUT YET NOTHING GETS DONE WITHOUT LEADERSHIP.
SOMEONE HAS TO SAY, YEP, THIS IS IN MY PURVIEW.
AND AGAIN, AS I THINK ABOUT THIS, I THINK IT'S THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE PURVIEW HERE THAT'S IN THEIR CHARTER TO DO THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND THEY SHOULD BE, THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
WE'VE DONE REALLY INTERESTING WORK AND LAYING OUT IN A WAY THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE WEB EXPLAINED BEFORE.
UM, BUT I WOULD FEEL DIFFERENTLY IF IT WAS THE COUNTY SITTING HERE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION SAYING, WE'RE DOING ALL THIS STUFF AND NOW WE THINK PERHAPS A MUNICIPAL ROLE IS THIS.
AND YOU KNOW, SEDONA, ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THOSE THINGS? SO, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT IT ALL ON THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T, I I DON'T KNOW.
THEY MAY HAVE DONE LOTS OF WORK HERE, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT IT IS.
AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THAT IS.
DID, DO YOU WANNA WEIGH IN, UH, IF I MAY, UM, TO SHARE SOME KIND OF, UM, PRACTICES THAT ARE USED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES FOR ADDRESSING THIS, THIS QUESTION? UM, I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
I HEARD TODAY THAT, UM, HOPE HOUSE IS SUBCONTRACTING THROUGH CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO ACCESS RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE FUNDING TO DO THE COORDINATE ENTRY PROCESS.
AND I LIT UP WHEN THEY SAID THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S GREAT.
THE CA CATHOLIC CHARITIES, WHO IS OUR LCEH, WHO IS KIND OF TASKED WITH THIS REGIONAL COORDINATION, THEY'RE ACTING AS THE BACKBONE ORGANIZATION ALREADY.
AND THIS IDEA OF A BACKBONE ORGANIZATION OR A LEAD AGENCY TO COORDINATE AS A FISCAL AGENT AND THE
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STRATEGIC CONVENER OF THESE FUNDING PLANS IS A, A, A PRACTICE THAT WE SEE IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.THE IDEA BEING THAT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE REGION CAN SET THOSE NUMBERS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE NEED TO HELP IN CRISIS HOUSING OR THE FLEX FUND OR WITH RAPID REHOUSING? AND THEN THE BACKBONE ORGANIZATION CAN TAKE THAT, PUT TOGETHER A COMPETITION.
ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE EXPERTISE AND HAVE THINGS THEY WANNA DO CAN COMPETE TO SAY, HERE, THIS IS MY PROPOSAL AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A TRANSPARENT, UM, RFP PROCESS THAT, THAT BACKBONE ORGANIZATION OVERSEAS TO AWARD THOSE FUNDS OUT, FUNDED BY PARTLY THE CITY OF SEDONA, FUNDED BY PARTLY A O PARTLY CLARKDALE.
UH, AND MAYBE YOU CAN'T GET EVERYBODY IN TO FUND IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT YOU DECIDE WHAT PORTION YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT TOWARDS IT.
AND THOSE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT START TO ROLL OUT.
AND SO THAT KIND OF APPROACH COULD BE REALLY, COULD BE REALLY EFFECTIVE HERE.
AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES ABOUT THEIR CAPACITY OR INTEREST IN BEING A BACKBONE ORGANIZATION, BUT I WANNA SPEAK TO THE EXAMPLE THAT I SAW AND THE BEST PRACTICE THAT WE SEE NATIONWIDE.
'CAUSE I, I, I'M, I AM VERY SENSITIVE, THE REMARKS THAT I MADE AND, YOU KNOW, POINTING MY FINGERS AT THE COUNTY AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF TALKING ABOUT MORE AS A LEAD AGENCY AND A BACKBONE ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S A, A REALLY BETTER WAY TO PHRASE IT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, MELISSA.
SO, ONE THING THAT I'VE CERTAINLY COME AWAY WITH, UM, WHICH I KNEW BEFORE, BUT IT ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SURPRISES ME WHEN IT GETS REINFORCED.
UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE ALL OF IT AND WE SHOULDN'T TRY TO SOLVE ALL OF IT.
AND WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS SOLUTION BEING IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE JUST HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, AND SAY MAYBE THOSE AREN'T PIECES THAT WE, WE WILL GO FOR TODAY.
UM, I THINK THE LEADERSHIP, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S SUPER CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS.
LIKE WHO'S DRIVING THAT STRATEGIC PLAN IS WHERE YOU USUALLY START, RIGHT? OTHERWISE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PIECES AND EVERYONE GOES, GREAT, AND THEN IT ALL FALLS APART, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE THE WORST STRATEGIC PLAN EVER BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IT HAS TO BE TACTICAL AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO MAKE IT TACTICAL.
AND WE NEED SOMEONE WHO'S MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE'S WORKING ON THE PIECES THAT THEY NEED TO BE WORKING ON WHEN THEY NEED TO BE WORKING ON IT.
AND WE NEED SOMEONE IN A COORDINATED POSITION TO COME TO US AND SAY, WOW, WE COULD REALLY USE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS NEXT YEAR IN YOUR BUDGET.
NOT HAVE 17 AGENCIES ALL SHOWING UP SAYING, WELL, WE COULD USE X, Y, AND Z AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, WE'VE HANDED OUT MORE MONEY THAN THEY ACTUALLY NEED.
AND NOW WE HAVE THE WHOLE ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUE THAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING, UM, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE WEEDS.
'CAUSE EVERY TIME A PROGRAM COMES UP, THEN WE NEED TO START TO TALK ABOUT, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GONNA SHOW ME THAT IT REALLY WORKED? HOW ARE YOU GONNA SHOW ME HOW WE WERE ACCOUNTABLE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE METRICS ARE 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT THAT BECOMES KEY TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN, IS TO COME BACK AND SAY, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE THIS WORK THEN? LET'S TALK MONEY RIGHT? THEN.
UM, WHEN JUST LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGETARY PIECES, UM, FOR SURE, I WOULD THINK FLEX FUNDING IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A BASELINE THAT YOU CAN DO, RIGHT? TO TRY AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM SLIDING INTO HOMELESSNESS, UM, TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND INTO AN APARTMENT, RIGHT? UM, NOT SAFE PLACE TO PARK.
NONE OF THAT PUT, PUT THEM IN AN APARTMENT.
UM, THAT LEADS ME TO THE FACT THAT I HAVE HEARD IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND LANDLORDS IN SEDONA WHO ARE WILLING RISK POOL OR NOT TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE VERGE INTO THEIR PLACES.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THE, OUR APARTMENTS HERE COSTS MORE THAN 30% OF YOUR INCOME, INCLUDING THE UTILITIES.
'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW UTILITIES HAVE BECOME, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE
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YOU NEED A MORTGAGE FOR YOUR UTILITIES THESE DAYS, BUT THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.AND I DON'T WANT SOMEONE LIVING IN AN APARTMENT AND FREEZING TO DEATH, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT SOMEONE LIVING IN AN APARTMENT WITH SMALL CHILDREN IN 110 DEGREES AND NO AIR CONDITIONING TURNED ON BECAUSE THE UTILITY.
SO WE HAVE TO BALANCE ALL THAT.
SO, UM, LET ME GET BACK TO THE SLIDES.
SO I, I THINK THE FLEX FUND, I THINK THE LANDLORD RECRUITMENT AND RISK POOL, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND DO WE REACH OUT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NEARBY? DO WE GO TO COTTONWOOD AND SAY, WOULD YOU, DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS WITHOUT THAT BACKBONE ORGANIZATION? IT'S JUST SEDONA GOING OUT AND SAYING, WE DON'T WANT 'EM.
DO YOU WANT 'EM? RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE.
I WANT US TO HAVE A COORDINATED EFFORT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I'M WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT AS MONEY TO PUT IN, BUT TELL ME HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
TELL ME WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE AND WHO'S GONNA PARTICIPATE.
BECAUSE I, I REALLY AM HONESTLY HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING PEOPLE WHO CHARGE $2,500 A MONTH BEFORE UTILITIES DOING THIS.
UM, I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG.
UM, CRISIS HOUSE HOUSING EXPANSION, UM, LORD LOVE HOPE HOUSE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE A CRISIS HOUSING, UM, FACILITY, BUT I'M GONNA CALL YOU ONE.
UM, BECAUSE IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GONNA GO MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT, QUITE HONESTLY, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD.
UM, AND SO TO, UM, COUNCILMAN FAFS, WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION DURING BUDGET AND, AND PRIORITY SETTING AS TO HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THIS WITH AN ORGANIZATION WE KNOW IS ALREADY SUCCESSFUL TODAY BEFORE WE TRY TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE DO KNOW WILL CREATE FRICTION IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT FRICTION IS HEALTHY FOR ANYONE.
SO, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO JUST SORT OF BRING OUT IS WE LIVE IN AN ECONOMICALLY UNCERTAIN TIME.
WE CANNOT BE SURE HOW MUCH MONEY WE WILL HAVE IN OUR BUDGET, UM, OVER THE COMING YEARS.
UM, WE CAN'T KNOW WHAT GRANTS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT ANY LEVEL.
UM, AND JUST ON THE COUNTY NOTE, WE'RE IN TWO, RIGHT? WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE COUNTY GONNA DO, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TWO COUNTIES BECAUSE WE'RE IN COCONINO AND WE'RE IN NAVA, PA, AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE UP IN THE COCONINO COUNTY ARE PROBABLY ALSO EITHER TRANSITIONAL OR EPISODIC.
UM, BUT WE DON'T REALLY, I REALLY AGREE THE CHRONIC, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM NOT GETTING THERE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST, TO ME, THAT'S JUST MY PASSION AROUND KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES AND HELPING THEM LEARN SKILLS OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED TO KEEP WHERE THEY ARE.
SO I'M HAPPY FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND, YOU KNOW, TIER ONE OR EVEN FLEX FUNDING, BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES, WITH OUR PARTNERS, WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT WHATEVER MONEY WE PUT IN FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 CAN BE THE SAME AS FISCAL YEAR 28 OR BEYOND, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, $2 MILLION, THAT MIGHT NOT BE AN AFFORDABLE PIECE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE GENERAL AT LARGE COMMUNITY.
AND WE CAN'T SACRIFICE THAT FOR ONE TINY PIECE OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AS A COMMUNITY.
SO I, I HAVE OTHER THINGS I WOULD SAY, BUT I THINK I WON'T, UM, SAY THEM.
SO I, I THINK THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO KEEP GOING.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED, OH, AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE HERE WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED, AND THAT'S THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD NOW, RIGHT? SO LET'S NOT FORGET THAT PIECE, WHETHER THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL BELOW THE A MI OR IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AT A MI, WHICH IS ABOUT 80,000 COMBINED HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR JAVA PIE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR COCONINO.
UM, OR IT'S ABOVE THAT BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ALSO CAN'T LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN I HEAR THE STORY ABOUT A CITY EMPLOYEE NEEDING HELP, THAT SHOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE SITTING UP HERE.
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STAFF.SO I, I JUST FEEL LIKE BEING A MODEL, WE'RE GONNA BE A MODEL, BUT ONLY FOR SOME THINGS.
AND I THINK AS A COMMUNITY AND AS LEADERS OF THAT COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO AGREE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE POTENTIAL MODELS FOR ONLY SOME OF THIS AND NOT FOR ALL OF US.
WELL, BRIAN, BEFORE WE GET TO YOU, I JUST WANNA COMMENT THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE RESULTS OF THE SPEND THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES HASN'T BEGUN YET AND WHAT THAT WILL DO, WHICH MAY IMPACT MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE WILLING TO DO OR WHAT WE NEED TO DO OURSELVES.
WHEN IS THAT GONNA ROLL OUT? MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
I WASN'T SUGGESTING, I THINK THUS FAR OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE HAS JUST BEEN HIRING STAFF.
UM, WE HAVE HIRED A CARE COORDINATOR AND SHE HAS BEGUN DOING OUTREACH IN THE CITY OF SEDONA.
SHE'S DOING COORDINATED ENTRIES AT THE LIBRARY, UM, AT ST.
I BELIEVE SHE'S IN THE PROCESS OF KIND OF COMING UP WITH A REGULAR SCHEDULE.
WE ALSO, OF COURSE, DO REGULAR COORDINATED ENTRIES, YOU KNOW, ALONGSIDE HOPE HOUSE AND VERDE VALLEY COALITION, UM, THROUGH OUR FRONT OFFICE.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE OUT THERE DOING OUTREACH RIGHT NOW ALONGSIDE OUR PATH OUTREACH TEAMS. UM, WE HAVEN'T HOUSED ANYBODY YET, BUT IT'S, IT'S READY.
UH, FIRST OFF, TWO QUESTIONS THOUGH.
FIRST ONE IS, UH, AND SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE CAPTURED YOU WHILE YOU WERE STILL UP THERE AT CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
UM, YOU MENTIONED A NEW CONTRACT OR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
IS THAT THE COLD WEATHER CONTRACT? I SEE ANNETTE SAYING YES.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? THE CONTRACT YOU HAVE WITH THE CITY IS FOR THE COLD WEATHER PROGRAM? CORRECT.
UM, THE SECOND, JUST GETTING HER STEPS IN THOUGH.
WANNA STAY IN THE FRONT THERE,
UH, SECOND QUESTION IS FROM THE PACKET, SORRY, FROM THE PRESENTATION SLIDE, WELL THAT SLIDE, OKAY, SO THE TIER THREE, UH, FULL MAC DADDY VERSION IS 2 MILLION AND CHANGE COUNCILOR KINSELLA IS EXTRAPOLATING THAT TO 20 MILLION.
I'M LOOKING IN THE PACKET, PAGE 37, AND I SEE SOMEWHERE THERE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT 12 MILLION.
IS IS IT THE 20 MILLION EXTRAPOLATION OFF OF THIS TWO, OR IS THE 12 THE EXTRAPOLATION FROM THE TWO? THE 12.
12 IS STILL A REALLY BIG NUMBER, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS.
SO MAYOR ROBIN, WHO MANAGES THIS, THAT, THAT'S BIG, BIG QUESTION AND, AND COUNCILOR FIRM AND I, I APPRECIATED HOW YOU APPROACHED IT WITH, YOU KNOW, IS IT THE COUNTY, UM, I MEAN, TO ME, CATHOLIC CHARITIES, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE THICK OF THIS, LIKE ABSENT ANYBODY ELSE.
YOU SHOULD BE, I THINK, LEADING THE CHARGE AND YOU SHOULD BE THE ONES COMING TO ALL THE CITIES, UH, IDEALLY WITH THE COUNTY IN HAND AND, AND A O PERHAPS AS WELL, SINCE I THINK YOU'RE CONTRACTED THROUGH THEM TO BE THE LCEH.
SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO GET SEDONA OUT OF BEING THE, THE LEAD ON THIS.
UH, VMU CALLED US THE CATALYST AT ONE POINT HERE.
IT'S TIME FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES IN THE COUNTY TO, TO EXHIBIT SOME LEADERSHIP AND WORK WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE VERDE VALLEY.
AS FAR AS, UM, SOME OTHER COMMENTS HERE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE HAVING SCOPE CREEP BECAUSE WHEN WE MET AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, SEDONA ADMINISTERING THAT EIGHT OH GRANT IS NOT THE RIGHT FIT, LET'S PUSH THAT BACK.
UH, BUT LET'S LOOK FOR WHERE CAN WE HAVE A SIMPLE TARGETED PROGRAM, UH, TO ASSIST CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE EIGHT OH PROGRAM.
THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON YET.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN.
I DON'T BELIEVE I WAS ALONE ON THAT.
UM, VICE MAYOR FOLTZ, I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON MONDAY, AND SO I SENT HIM A REMINDER THAT THAT'S A TOPIC THE COUNCIL WANTED ME TO TALK TO THE DISTRICT ABOUT.
UM, AND THAT'S MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO BROACH THAT, HOW WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
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I'M HOPING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FRAMEWORK FOR YOU ON HOW WE CAN PARTICIPATE.BRIAN, LET ME INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SEC.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE IS THAT THEY DON'T QUALIFY UNDER THE EIGHT OH RULES AS LITERAL HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY MAY BE COUCH SURFING OR, AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM, BUT THEY WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS, IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING 'CAUSE IT'S A DO FUNDED IT AT THE RISK OF GETTING INTO A VERY TECHNICAL YEAH.
THEY COULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY.
AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE THEY, THEY EXPERIENCE LITERAL HOMELESSNESS.
UH, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THAT IS, WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE CATHOLIC CHARIT IS A O GRANT CAN BE USED.
I THINK WHAT THEY TOLD US WAS THAT IT, THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY AS LITERAL HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY HAD SOMEPLACE THEY WERE SLEEPING.
EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T THEIR OWN HOME.
SO THEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS SPENDING MONEY, UH, AGAIN, COUNCILOR FURMAN, I THINK YOU DID A NICE JOB OF CAPTURING MUCH OF MY THINKING ON THIS AS WELL, THAT, UM, LOTS OF QUESTIONS REMAIN NOT READY TO COMMIT TO ANY PARTICULAR, UH, SET OF INITIATIVES YET.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, OKAY, BUT ANY MONEY WE SPEND AND, AND, AND THIS CAME UP FROM HOPE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE UNHOUSED AND, AND HERE ALREADY, RIGHT? I HEAR PLENTY OF INSTANCES OF THE FOLKS THAT'S LIKE, OH, SEDONA CALLED ME HERE AND NOW I'M HERE AND, UH, OH, AND I'VE GOT KIDS.
AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY REGRETFUL OR REGRETTABLE, UH, FOR SURE.
BUT ANYTHING WE DO FUNDING WISE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PUT GUARDRAILS AROUND THAT SO THAT IT DOES NOT CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE ELEMENT TO BRING PEOPLE HERE.
'CAUSE THEY HEARD SEDONAS GENEROUS.
SO THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ANYTHING WE DO, IF THERE IS FEDERAL RULES, STATE RULES, WHATEVER, WE NEED TO BE EYES WIDE OPEN ABOUT WHATEVER THAT IS, SO THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING ANY TYPE OF ATTRACTIVE ELEMENT.
THE THE LAST AREA I'LL SPEAK TO IS ACTUALLY FROM YOUR, UM, UH, UH, YOUR NOTES FROM THE EARLIER SESSION TODAY.
I'VE BEEN SCRATCHING ALL OVER THIS.
UH, YOU END WITH ACTION ORIENTED TAKEAWAYS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
NUMBER ONE, INVEST STRATEGICALLY AND AFFORDABILITY AND WORKFORCE HOUSING CHECK.
WE'RE DOING THAT, OR WE'RE CERTAINLY TRYING.
NUMBER TWO, STRENGTH AND COORDINATION WITH COUNTY AND NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
YOU KNOW, BRIGHT BLINKING RED LIGHT.
THIS IS WHERE WE NEED CATHOLIC CHARITIES IN THE COUNTY TO GET INVOLVED.
NUMBER THREE, ENHANCE COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY USING REGULAR UPDATES TO SHOW MEASURABLE PROGRESS AND FOSTER PUBLIC TRUST.
YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE POLICE RESOURCE OFFICER THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING ON.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT RESOURCE.
UM, SORRY TO BE REDUNDANT THERE.
UM, THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THIS TOPIC COMBINED WITH A COMMUNITY COURT, A SPECIALTY COURT, WHATEVER THE HECK WE END UP CALLING IT.
I REALLY WANNA SEE US GET AFTER THAT VERY QUICKLY WITH OUR NEW JUDGE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THIS POINT VERY WELL, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING CERTAINLY THE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, BECAUSE I THINK THOSE FOLKS WILL FIND THEIR WAY INTO THIS SPECIALTY COURT.
AND THEN FINALLY, NUMBER FOUR, SUSTAINED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
CONTINUE OPEN FORUMS AND DATA SHARING.
YEAH, OF COURSE WE WANT TO DO THAT.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, I SAY, WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO SPEND 2 MILLION BUCKS? WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID WE OUGHT TO GO DO.
I DON'T SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO SPEND, YOU KNOW, 2 MILLION BUCKS.
SO I'M NOT CONVINCED YET OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I GET THAT YOU NEEDED TO PUT A STRAW MAN TOGETHER, THE TIER ONE, TIER TWO, TIER THREE, RIGHT? I DO FEEL LIKE I'M BEING SOLD.
UH, IT'S A COMBINATION OF LIKE FUNDRAISING WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, TIER ONE, WE'RE GONNA NAME THAT CHAIR AFTER YOU TIER TWO, YOU GET THE TABLE NAMED AFTER YOU TIER THREE, YOU GET THE ROOM.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMBINATION OF THAT AND BUYING AN EXTENDED WARRANTY ON A CAR AND, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL MILES OR YEARS ARE YOU GETTING? SO I, I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING SOLD SOMETHING RIGHT NOW.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING, HEY, WE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER STILL AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LEVEL OF COOPERATION'S GONNA BE WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE VERDE VALLEY, UM, THAT WE DO WANT A PARTNERSHIP WITH.
AND, UH, CERTAINLY ARE GRATEFUL THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT REPRESENTATIVES FROM A COUPLE OF THE CITIES HERE TODAY.
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UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT IT, UH, YOU KNOW, ON MY LAST COMMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS.YOU KNOW, JEANIE AND LAURA, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE HEART YOU HAVE FOR WORKING WITH PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEED HELP.
UM, BUT DIDN'T YOU SAY IT, PETE, YOU GOTTA WALK BEFORE YOU RUN.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS AS WELL.
I ACTUALLY WAS THINKING WE NEED TO CRAWL BEFORE WE WALK
BUT I I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TOO.
THE, WE NEED AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, RIGHT? SO IF WE WERE, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, AND ANNETTE, YOU'RE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALSO ABOUT STAFF RESOURCES.
WE HAVE A BIG PROGRAM THAT WE'RE EMBARKING.
WE HAVE TWO STAFF PEOPLE IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE EMBARKING ON THIS BIG PROGRAM FOR BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS SOUNDS RESOURCE INTENSE TO ME.
SO WHERE DOES THIS FIT AND HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THIS PROGRAM? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE TURN THAT OVER TO OUR PARTNERSHIPS TO BRING SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES TO BEAR.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED NEXT.
WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? IT'S PREMATURE FOR US TO COME UP WITH WHAT TIERS WE WANNA FUND.
JUST, WE'RE JUST NOT READY FOR THAT.
AND I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THINKING WE WERE AT THAT POINT.
SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S GONNA WORK, WHO'S GONNA LEAD IT.
I DON'T THINK I'M READY FOR SEDONA TO TAKE THE LEAD FOR EVERYTHING.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S JUST TOO MUCH WORK.
SO IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP AND WE HAD COMMITMENT FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES TO PUT SOME OF THEIR RESOURCES, I'M ONLY EVEN TALKING ABOUT FUNDING PROGRAMS YET.
I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST COMING UP WITH A PLAN, THEN WE WOULD UNDERSTAND AT LEAST THE FIRST LEVEL THAT WE WERE GONNA BE GETTING TO, NOT TIER THREE, JUST OUT OF THE GATE.
WHAT WOULD WE BE DOING AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? I ALSO WANNA SEE THE RESULTS OF WHAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS DOING AND WHETHER THAT ACTUALLY MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TWO YEARS.
THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IS, YOU KNOW, $75,000 MORE GOING TO MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE WHEN WE HAVEN'T YET SPENT THAT MONEY.
MAYBE IT WILL, WHEN THAT GRAND IS OVER, MAYBE THAT GRANT CAN BE RENEWED.
SO I, I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION WAS EXCELLENT.
IT IS REALLY COMPLEX AND I THOUGHT THAT THE MEETING THIS MORNING WAS REALLY, REALLY WELL DONE.
I LIKED THE METHOD THAT YOU USED.
I LIKED THE SOFTWARE THAT YOU USED.
I LIKE THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK IT'S A CONTINUING, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION, BUT WE NEED TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP.
AND SO THAT'S MORE SPECIFICITY ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE.
SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DIRECTION, IF I MIGHT, MAYOR? UM, I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE WAS THE INTEREST IN THE REGIONAL CONVERSATION TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHO'S GONNA LEAD THIS? WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF INTEREST? WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE? UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING STAFF CAN WORK ON SETTING UP ANOTHER CONVERSATION.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'M HEARING IS AN INTEREST IN SHOULD SOMETHING, WHATEVER THE CONCEPT IS, BE BROUGHT FORWARD DURING THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES SETTING AND HAVE SOME FRAMEWORK DEVELOPED OF A, OF A, WHAT THAT INVESTMENT COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THAT, UM, WOULD BE TOWARDS THE EXISTING, UM, NONPROFIT SERVICE PROVIDER INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF THERE'S SOME CAPACITY BUILDING THAT COUNCIL COULD PARTICIPATE IN AS AN INITIAL FIRST STEP.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE HEARD AS A, LIKE A MAJORITY SORT OF THOUGHT.
UM, BUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION THAT JEANNIE AND OUR CONSULTANTS ARE GONNA ASK YOU AS WELL.
BUT, UH, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT THE CONSULTANTS HAVE PREPARED AND READY TO
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ACCEPT THAT AS A FINISHED DOCUMENT? OR ARE WE STILL HAVING TO FINISH SOMETHING UP ON TERMS OF YOUR WORK FOR US? YEAH, IF BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE, NOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THIS? IF I MAY, THE, THE RECENT, THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE RECEIVED IS A DRAFT.AND SO THERE'S SOME REFINEMENTS, UM, THAT NEED TO BE MADE BEFORE CONSIDERATION TO BE FINALIZED OR APPROVED.
UM, AND THAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE AVAILABLE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
UM, THE PART OF THE INTENTION FOR US TODAY WAS TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOUR POSITION, WHAT YOUR POSITION WAS IN THE D WITH THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND AND LEVEL OF INTEREST, UH, TO HELP KIND OF MAKE SOME OF THOSE FINAL REFINEMENTS.
AND SOME OF THEM IS, IS JUST ONGOING WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO CLEAN IT UP.
UM, SO WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THAT DOCUMENT AT THIS TIME.
SEE, I'M NOT SURE, I KNOW GET A SENSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT I WOULD CALL THIS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE READY TO ACCEPT IT.
UH, SO, BUT IT WILL END WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, FINISH REFINING IT.
SO WE NEED TO CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BUT IT'S NOT A STRATEGIC PLAN YET.
AND YOU KNOW, THE BASIS FOR MY QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, GOES TO LIKE HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF WORK ARE WE TRYING TO DO? ARE WE LOOKING TO BE COMPLETE WITH OUR CONSULTING SERVICES CONTRACTS SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE? UM, ARE THERE MISSING THINGS THAT YOU STILL NEED US TO DEVELOP AND INCLUDE IN THE DOCUMENT? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THEY'VE COVERED ALL OF THE HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION ITEMS THAT YOU NEEDED THEM TO GATHER FOR US? ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WILL HELP US WRAP UP THIS PART OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW.
I WOULD CALL THIS A FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT.
IT GIVES US A BUNCH OF INFORMATION, IT MAKES SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.
I THINK THE COSTS ARE PROBABLY WAY OFF ON WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST TO DO THESE THINGS.
UM, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, MADAM CITY MANAGER, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR A PLAN.
THE PLAN HAS TO BE, IT'S EITHER SEDONAS STRATEGIC PLAN OR IT'S THE VERDE VALLEY STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND IF IT'S OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, QUITE HONESTLY, BUT IFS THE VERDE VALLEY STRATEGIC PLAN, WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO SORT OF PLAY OUT AT THE, AT THE INFRASTRUCTURAL LEVEL BEFORE WE START TO TALK ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT WE CAN FUND AND WHAT WE CAN'T FUND AND, AND THE STEPS IN WHICH YOU FUND IT.
SO WE GET TO THE TACTICAL, WHICH IS YOUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN ON YES, WE DECIDED WE'RE ALL GONNA DO A FLEX FUND.
SO HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE THAT HAPPEN? WHO'S GONNA MONITOR IT? HOW DO PEOPLE, I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SO FAR OUT FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IN MY OPINION THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE I SAID YEAH, I WOULD DO A FLEX FUND, I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OR HOW IT'S GONNA BE MANAGED OR IT'S, IT'S A CONCEPT FLEX FUND, RIGHT? UH, I DON'T, I, I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD NEED TO BE FUNDED UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS, HERE'S WHAT IT DOES, HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE VERDE VALLEY AND THIS IS HOW MUCH WE WOULD NEED.
BUT NOW THE HARD WORK IS FOR ALL OF US IN THE VERDE VALLEY AND OUR ASSOCIATED PARTNERS TO FIGURE OUT, AND BY ALL OF US, I, I PROBABLY DON'T MEAN YOU WANT ANY OF US, BUT YOU GET THE DRIFT.
SO FOLLOWING UP ON COUNSELORS DUNS POINT, UM, MY QUESTION IS, SO TO MOVE THAT TO THE I AND I AGREE.
I I REALLY DO LIKE THIS DOCUMENT.
I THINK THERE'S REALLY GOOD INFORMATION HERE AND THERE'S ACTUAL, THERE'S, THERE'S REAL STUFF IN HERE.
UM, SO, BUT TO GET IT TO THE NEXT STAGE OF HAVING, HAVING IT BECOME A REGIONAL, UH, CLARKDALE MAYOR SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, SHE'D LIKE TO SEE A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS DOWN THERE BECAUSE HER COUNCIL WILL NEED IT.
RIGHT? BUT HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN WITH IT'S, IT'S THE WHAT COMES FIRST.
WE'RE IN A CIRCULAR MODE HERE BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS.
WE CONTRACTED, WE'VE FOOTED THE EXPENSE FOR THAT CONTRACT.
THIS HAS BEEN A WORTHWHILE EXPENDITURE.
BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL, THEN WHO, WHO DOES THAT? I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE
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TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE'RE SAYING WE NEED SOMEBODY TOO, BUT WHO, WHO IS THAT? I MEAN, AND IF WE DON'T, I MEAN OUR CONTRACT WITH YOU, YOU'RE GONNA COME UP WITH THIS DOCUMENT AND GIVE IT IN OUR CONTRACT WILL BE AT AN END.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS JUST GETS, YOU KNOW, BECOMES A, A DUST BUNNY ON THE SHELF OR YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS BECOME SOMETHING THAT GETS ACTED ON? THE QUESTION HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A REGIONAL APPROACH IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE A COORDINATOR.
AND TO ME THAT'S THE PART THAT NEEDS TO SORT OF BE IDENTIFIED BEFORE WE WRAP UP TONIGHT.
OTHERWISE, AS I SAID, THIS JUST BECOMES A DUST BUNNY.
NOT THIS ONE, BUT THE FINAL VERSION, I THINK TO THAT SOMEWHAT.
AND, AND I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, SO MADE SO FAR.
UH, I THINK, AND, AND I'D SAID IN MY REMARKS EARLIER THAT I THINK I'M WILLING TO PUSH THIS BALL A LITTLE FURTHER UPHILL.
WE'VE TASKED YOU, I BELIEVE, TO BEGIN THIS REGIONAL CONVERSATION MORE.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU MENTIONED THINGS THAT YOU'LL DO AND I CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE'S STILL SOME SUPPORT IN THAT EFFORT THAT YOU'RE GONNA REQUIRE FROM THIS GROUP BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MEAT IN THE DOCUMENT.
WE YOU, YOUR STAFF, OUR STAFF PERHAPS HAVEN'T DIGESTED ALL YET.
AND I THINK I'M WILLING TO STILL SEE SOME SUPPORT OF THAT EFFORT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M WILLING TO FUND THE CREATION OF THE VERDE VALLEY STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLAN YET, BUT I CAN SEE THAT YOU MIGHT NEED SOME SUPPORT IN DOING THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED YOU TO DO.
UH, FURMAN, UM, SO I'M THINKING IN MY HEAD, UH, ABOUT, WE'RE AT OCTOBER 15TH, WE ARE TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM YOUR COUNCIL PRIORITY SETTING.
AND HOW REALISTIC IS IT TO GO FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY TO HAVING SOMETHING TO PRESENT AS SOME KIND OF DECISION PACKAGE CONCEPT TO YOU IN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS, BASICALLY? UM, SO WHAT I THINK WE CAN DO IS HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY CATHOLIC CHARITIES ABOUT, OKAY, WHO'S GONNA BE THE LEAD ORGANIZATION, HOW DO WE DEVELOP THIS NEXT STEP VERY SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS JUMPING OFF POINT THAT THEY'VE, UM, OUTLINED FOR US, AND MAYBE IT'S, UH, WHAT WE CAN BRING BACK TO IS, OKAY, HERE'S LIKE THE PLAN FOR THE NEXT TO GET TO THE NEXT THING.
I AM NOT HEARING, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE READY TO PREPARE POTENTIALLY, MAYBE I COULD BE WRONG, BUT, UM, PREPARED TO BRING FORWARD, HERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT INVESTMENT FOR A SPECIFIC THING ON THIS IN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS WITHOUT HAVING HAD THIS REGIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO'S GONNA PARTICIPATE WITH US.
I'M NOT, IS THAT, HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THAT STATEMENT? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO, IN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS, FIGURE OUT SOMETHING WE CAN DO OUTSIDE OF THE REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP AS AN, TO BRING FORWARD IN THE PRIORITY SETTING? I GUESS I, I NEED A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON WHAT YOU ALL ARE EXPECTING US TO BRING BACK TO YOU SO THAT WE BRING WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF, UM, SOMETHING TO, TO CHEW ON AT THE PRIORITY SETTING, THE REGIONAL PARTNER PATH, THE COME UP WITH THE SMALL FIRST INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, LOW HANGING FRUIT TYPE OF PROJECT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING MM-HMM
WHERE ARE WE, WHAT NEEDS TO HAVE? IT'S THE NEXT STEP.
JUST BRING US THE NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO.
WE STILL HAVE APRIL FOR OUR BUDGET MEETING, SO THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY THERE WHEN DEPARTMENTS PRESENT TO US AND THEY DO THEIR ASK.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECEMBER OR, OR IT'S MISSED EITHER.
'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT HAVING, IT'S A LOT OF WORK IN HAVING COORDINATING CONVERSATIONS, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC THAT EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE RESOLVED BY DECEMBER.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, AGAIN, WE'RE CRAWLING HERE BEFORE WE'RE WALKING AND RUNNING.
SO DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT? NO, I CONCUR COMPLETELY.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ABOUT MAKING THIS PRESENTATION TO THEM? NO.
I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING.
WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT? WELL, THEY CAN NOT, THEY, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S TO ME, THE NEXT STEP.
COME BACK TO US AND TELL US WHAT THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, STEP WHERE STEPS ARE AND WHAT YOU NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
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WAS VERDE VALLEY WIDE, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE IF YOU, IF CLARKDALE SAID, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO COME PRESENT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, WHAT YOU JUST PRESENTED TO SEDONA, IT WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T BE PAYING THE SAME PRICE THAT WE JUST PAID FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU, SO I DON'T KNOW.I JUST, I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IN THESE OTHER GROUPS, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD ENCOURAGE VI 'EM AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE OTHER TOWN COUNCILS TO, AND CITY COUNCILS TO BE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
SO, SO IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS TO MAKE IT VERY S FOR THE DECEMBER BUDGET TALKS VERY SHORT TERM TO MAKE IT VERY SEDONA SPECIFIC.
UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NONPROFIT PROVIDERS IN SEDONA THAT COULD USE CAPACITY BUILDING THAT DO SERVICE HOPE HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, THE FOOD BANK, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WORK WITH THE POPULATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
THAT IF WE WERE TO JUST KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW CAN WE BUILD UP THEIR CAPACITY IN SMALL WAYS TO HELP AS A FIRST STEP.
I MEAN, WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN FUNDING THE FOOD BANK WITH SMALL GRANTS FOR YEARS, SINCE COVID, I THINK.
BUT I WAS GONNA ASK, UM, MS. WEISS, HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR A SMALL GRANT? HAVE WE EVER GIVEN YOU A SMALL GRANT? DO YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT PROGRAM? YES.
SOME OF YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW THAT I DID APPLY FOR THE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SEDONA SMALL BUSINESS GRANT.
I DID APPLY THIS YEAR AND WAS DENIED, BUT THAT, IT WAS MY BAD, I MADE A MISTAKE ON MY APPLICATION, WHICH I ATTEMPTED TO RECTIFY TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.
BUT WEREN'T YOU ALSO THE RECIPIENT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT? YEAH.
YEAH, FOUR YEARS AGO AT, AT LEAST FOUR YEARS AGO.
THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING, RIGHT.
THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT THE WHOLE BATCH OF THAT, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO BUILD THEIR HOUSE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND OUR, OUR CDBG ROUND IS UPCOMING IN 2027.
THAT'S WILL WHEN WE'LL BE FUNDED AGAIN FOR CDBG.
YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO YEARS AWAY.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU EXPECT THAT AMOUNT TO BE AVAILABLE TO US? YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IN FLUX, BUT IT WILL BE AROUND THE SAME THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THE PAST.
DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH ON THAT COUNSELOR KINSELLA.
JUST SPEAKING FROM A NACO BOARD MEMBER PERSPECTIVE.
WELL, AND ALSO FROM NEVERMIND.
THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCILLOR FAFF TOUCHED ON THIS ISSUE THAT I WANNA REVISIT A LITTLE BIT AND WE, WE'VE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORT INTO THIS THING.
I THINK THAT'S GOT SOME SHINE ON IT.
AND I, FOR ONE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MY COLLEAGUE'S INPUT ON THAT.
ALTHOUGH I WOULD LOVE IT IF, UH, COTTONWOOD CLARKDALE AND CAMP VERDE WOULD JUST IMMEDIATELY STEP UP AND SAY, YES, WE WANNA PAY FOR THESE GUYS TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THE WORK THEY DID FOR SEDONA, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ON THE OTHER HAND, PERHAPS I WOULD BE WILLING TO FUND THOSE THREE PRESENTATIONS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE IF THE BALL CAN MOVE ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO, TO, UH, HAVE LOCALS PAY SOME SHARE OR ALL OF IT.
BUT NONETHELESS, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE HERE THAT I THINK TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THREE PRESENTATIONS? WHY CAN'T WE GET THEM TOGETHER FOR ONE PRESENTATION?
THERE'S A LOT OF RIGHT COUNCIL CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET THREE COUNCILS TOGETHER HAVING, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS AMONG FOUR.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW YOU DO THAT.
WELL, ROBIN HAD SUGGESTED, OR, UH, THAT WE BRING THIS TO THE MAYOR'S MANAGERS MEETING AS A TOPIC JUST TO GAUGE INTEREST.
THE NEXT MEETING IS NEXT WEEK.
THEN WE CAN ASK OUR CONSULTANTS WHAT THEY WOULD CHARGE.
THEN WE'LL GET INFORMATION AND WE CAN ACT ON IT OR NOT.
HOW DOES THAT SOUND? THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
AND THEN THE, BUT ALSO THERE WAS, WE HAD A JOINT MEETING OF COUNCILS, UH, WHICH CLARK CLARKDALE, THANK YOU.
WHY CAN'T SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN TOO? MAYBE TO COME OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MAYOR MANAGERS,
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NOT THAT I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT TO HOST IT, I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, MODELED ON WHAT YOU DID.IT USED TO ROTATE, REMEMBER? MM-HMM
WE COULD, WE ABSOLUTELY COULD.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? IN, IN THAT SETUP THOUGH, DO THEY, DO THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCILS GET DEBATE, DEBATE WITH ONE ANOTHER ABOUT, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THIS IS THE MORE COSTLY OPTION, BUT IT FEELS LIKE THE PRESENTATION SHOULD BE MADE TO A COUNCIL SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD AMONGST THEMSELVES TO MAKE A DECISION ON BEHALF OF THEIR COMMUNITY, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
AND THEN YOU COULD DO A THREE STEP PROCESS, GAUGE THE INTEREST, HAVE THE, HAVE THE PRESENTATIONS, AND THEN HAVE ALL THE COUNCILS GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE IF THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, UM, I THINK YOU'VE GIVEN DIRECTION TO YOUR CITY MANAGER AND TO YOUR MAYOR OF HOW TO APPROACH ALL OF US.
UNDERSTAND THEY ARE ALSO AT THE MEETING, RIGHT? AND LET US ALL DECIDE WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS.
'CAUSE WE KNOW HOW, WHAT BEST WORKS.
AND IF I CAN JUST ASK YOU TO DO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US ALL GETTING TOGETHER.
THE MECHANISMS WILL BE FIGURED OUT.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS, IF YOU WANT ALL OF OUR PARTICIPATION, WHETHER WE PAY FOR THEM TO COME DO A PRESENTATION OR YOU PUT IT TOGETHER AS YOUR STAFF, I'LL LET THAT WORK ITSELF OUT.
UM, AND, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THE SAME INFORMATION PRESENTED.
IT IS MUCH BETTER IF EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL GETS TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES THE SAME AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
UM, I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNTY DEFINITELY IS INVOLVED.
YOUR TWO SUPERVISORS FROM THIS COUNTY, YAVAPAI, AND THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS, UH, THE PART OF SEDONA, UH, INVOLVED IN THIS.
'CAUSE THE COUNTY SHOULD BE PLAYING A BIG ROLE IN THIS.
SIT DOWN, SITTING FOR THREE HOURS.
YOU SEE WHY OUR MEETINGS TAKE SO LONG? NO.
AND WE'RE MINUS ONE COUNSELOR RIGHT NOW.
ARE WE READY TO CONCLUDE? EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION? I, I THINK.
[3.b. Discussion/possible action regarding ideas for future meetings/agenda items. ]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS DISCUSSION.UH, REGARDING IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AGENDAS AND ITEMS. WE, OH,
UM, I DON'T KNOW, UM, ANNETTE, WHERE WE WOULD DO THIS IN A DISCUSSION.
SO I'M ASKING THIS UNDER, UNDER THIS, WHERE WE HAVE TO START TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOME RULE AND PBA AND STATE BASED LIMITATIONS AND THE WHOLE THING.
NOT SAYING THAT ANY PREFERRED SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO START HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR TO DIRECT.
'CAUSE THERE WILL BE A BALLOT QUESTION.
THERE WILL BE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GATHERED, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS.
UH, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS THIS SLOTTED IN OUR, 'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALREADY LATE.
WHERE, WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNSELOR.
UM, WE WERE PLANNING TO, UM, USE A PORTION OF YOUR RETREAT IN DECEMBER TO GET INTO THAT.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE CITY CLERK HAS ALREADY SCHEDULED OUT THE, UM, UH, MILESTONE PIECES, SO TO SPEAK, THE DECISION POINTS FOR WHERE, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, ACTUALLY MAKE DECISIONS FOR A BALLOT ITEM WHICH OCCURS, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE A DISCUSSION IN NOVEMBER, WE COULD, UH, MOVE IT UP.
WE DO HAVE A, UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT YOU HAD ASKED US TO START BRINGING FORWARD, UH, QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORTS FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.
AND THAT FIRST ONE IS COMING IN NOVEMBER, UM, FROM BARBARA.
AND SO I COULD TALK TO HER ABOUT ADDING TIME TO THE SCHEDULE, UM, FOR THAT ITEM TO, UM, START THAT CONVERSATION THEN TOO.
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I THINK IT'S A MULTI-TIERED CONVERSATION.SO I THINK, UH, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO ADD THAT ON TO NOVEMBER, UH, SOME TIME TO START THAT.
AND THEN AGAIN, STICK WITH YOUR IDEA OF HAVING A THEN A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION IN DECEMBER AND THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE.
IS THERE SUPPORT FOR THAT FROM COLLEAGUES? THINK EVERYBODY'S NODDING.
WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR YOU.
THIS IS FROM CONTINUATION FROM LAST NIGHT.
UM, SO I JUST, I WAS JUST BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND I SUSPECT THERE ARE AT LEAST A COUPLE FOR WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE BUILDING CODE CHANGES THAT WE DIRECTED YOU MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO.
UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TURNKEY ADU THAT CAN HELP SOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH SMALL HOMES, UM, BEING BUILT ON, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BECOMING RENTALS OR PEOPLE WHO NEED THEIR AIDS TO LIVE WITH THEM.
SO THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE ASKED FOR IN THAT WHOLE GROUP OF THINGS, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE RELATED TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD TONIGHT.
AND I'LL DEFER TO STEVE MERTIS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT QUESTION.
WE HAVE, UH, CONCLUDED OUR MEETINGS, UH, WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
UH, WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE LOOKING TO ADOPT THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL CODES, UH, ALONG WITH THE 2023 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
UM, I'M MEETING WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW TO, UH, IDENTIFY SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE BEYOND WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AS A GROUP WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SO, UM, WE, I'M GETTING TOGETHER, UH, IN FACT, I HAVE QUITE A FEW NAMES ON THE CONTRACTOR AND, UH, ARCHITECT SLASH DESIGNER SIDE FOR A FOCUS GROUP, UH, WITH THEM.
AND I HAVE, UH, I'M GONNA HAVE A FOCUS GROUP WITH, UM, UH, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO, UH, THOSE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, CREATING THOSE GROUPS RIGHT NOW.
AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS WE CAN START THOSE.
SO WHEN WOULD THAT BE IN FRONT OF US? THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
SO LOOKING AT THE FIRST, UM, WORK SESSION, UM, PROBABLY FIRST OF THE YEAR.
AND STEVE, DOES THAT LIST INCLUDE SORT OF COUNCIL INITIATED TOPICS AS WELL? I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT STAFF AND SO ADUS, I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, SUSTAINABILITY RELATED COST VERSUS COST.
I HATE TO POINT THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HERE, RIGHT? UM, I'VE JUST, WELL, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UH, BRYCE AND SUSTAINABILITY AND THEY'RE CONSULTANT, UM, SIG ON THE SUSTAINABILITY CODE, UH, REQUESTS.
AND, UM, SIG IS NOW, WE, WE'VE MET, UH, ALMOST WEEKLY WITH THEM, UH, THIS WEEK KIND OF WRAPPING UP, UH, OUR FINAL COMMENTS ON THEIR SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT FORTH TO COUNCIL.
AND, UH, BASED UPON, UH, WHAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING, UH, TO ADOPT, APPROVE, UH, AS A PART OF THAT DOCUMENT, WE WILL THEN BE PUTTING THAT INTO OUR CODE UPDATES AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILOR KINSELLA IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, INITIATIVE TO, FOR STAFF TO COME TO US AND TELL US WHAT THEY THINK IS IN THEIR SCOPE OF, UH, LDC CONVERSATION.
I THINK THEY SAID THAT IT WOULD BE JANUARY.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SCOPE.
MAY I CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? SO WHAT STEVE MERTIS IS DESCRIBING TO YOU IS THE BUILDING CODE.
WHAT I'M HEARING YOU ASK ABOUT IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU ARE SCHEDULED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, CODE CHANGES FOR IMPLEMENTING NEW LEGISLATION, UM, THAT IS ALREADY SCHEDULED OUT THERE FOR YOU.
UM, SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT WITH ADUS AND ALL OF THAT? OR? SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN BUILDING CODE IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH I THINK WAS WHAT, UM, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT MELISSA.
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I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING CODES AND THE ADUS AND SUSTAINABILITY AS PART OF THAT.UM, WE TALKED, WE SORT OF, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR WHEN WE WERE GONNA GET AN UPDATE ON THAT.
AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, JANUARY.
JANUARY, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, WHICH, UM, LOOKS LIKE THE WORK SESSIONS IN JANUARY WOULD BE, IF IT'S FOR A WORK SESSION, IT WOULD BE JANUARY 28TH.
UM, BUT IF IT CAN BE A REGULAR BUSINESS ITEM, IT WOULD BE, THE EARLIEST WOULD BE JANUARY 13TH.
I LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THE AGENDA SETTER.
UM, IF I COULD ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THERE, WE JUST DISCUSSED A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS, SOME FORMALLY, SOME INFORMALLY, UM, WITH THE ADUS, I THINK, UH, COUNCILOR DUNN, YOU ARE ADDRESSING THE NEW STATE STATUTE THAT WE COME UP WITH, OR POSSIBLY MAYBE NOT.
UM, THAT, UH, EACH CITY MUST COME UP WITH PRE-APPROVED PLANS, UH, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ADUS, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE MEDIUM-SIZED HOMES, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE TOWN HOMES.
IS THAT PART OF YEAH, BUT IS THAT THE BUILDING CODE OR IS THAT LAND DEVELOPMENT? I THOUGHT THAT WAS BUILDING CODES.
SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR BUILDING SAFETY PROCESSES.
SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, UH, PRESENT TO ANYBODY COMING TO OUR DEPARTMENT.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARILY A PART OF THE BUILDING CODE, BUT IT IS STILL SOMETHING.
SO STEVE, WE, WE CAN'T GET TOO FAR INTO THE TOPIC.
YEAH, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS. WE, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC, SO WHAT WE DETAIL, I'M JUST TRYING TO, WHAT WE'LL DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THESE, UH, CODE UPDATE ITEMS ARE LISTED OUT ON YOUR UPCOMING MEETING SCHEDULE.
NOW, DID YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING ON LDC SPECIFICALLY OR IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SATISFIED? YEAH, I GUESS YOUR CONCERNS AS A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC,
I, I'M GETTING THE SENSE THAT THIS COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAS TALKED A LOT ABOUT IDEAS OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN POTENTIALLY LDC CHANGES, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS UNDERSTOOD THAT WE THINK SOMETHING IS COOKING.
AND SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON.
I THINK THERE'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS THIS COUNCIL HAS SAID.
WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT DOING SOME LGC CHANGES.
IF, IF I MAY, UM, WE ARE UPDATING THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES DOCUMENT.
UM, I ASKED PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR INPUT DONE THIS WEEK, AND THAT IS A PRIORITY THAT'S LISTED IN THAT DOCUMENT.
AND WE'LL GET THAT SENT OUT TO YOU AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ IN THAT DOCUMENT THE STATUS OF ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER IF THERE'S SOMETHING, UH, MORE YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THOSE PRIORITIES UPDATES, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.
[5. Adjournment ]
ALL RIGHT.ADJOURNED AT EVERYBODY READY?