Jan 13, 2026 City Council

ON COUNCIL OR STAFF OR THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO PULL AN ITEM OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES.

PLEASE, UH, TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONES, EVERYONE.

AND MADAME CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? MAYOR PLU.

HERE, VICE MAYOR BOLTZ.

PRESENT.

COUNCILOR DUNN? HERE.

[3. CONSENT ITEMS - APPROVE]

WHAT ITEM I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM E, PLEASE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE, SORRY.

OH, YOU HAVE ONE MOMENT OF ART.

I'LL DO THAT AFTERWARDS.

UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

SO WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION.

I CAN, MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH D AND F.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OKAY.

WE'RE UNANIMOUS.

AND WE'LL DO A MOMENT OF ART IN A MINUTE.

UH, WOULD, IS THERE, UH, THERE HE IS.

WHERE? MAD MADAM MAYOR.

ACCORDING TO COUNCIL RULES, THE POLL, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE HEARD UNDER NINE A, RIGHT? OH, WE'VE CHANGED IT.

WE HAVE, YES.

PROVIDE CONSTANT LEARNING AND INSPIRATION.

SO THAT'LL JUST BE AFTER THE MOMENT OF ART.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD, NANCY.

OVER TO YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNSELORS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A NEW EXHIBIT IN THIS ROOM AND, UM, THERE ARE OIL PAINTINGS AND OIL PASTELS BY, UM, THE AMAZING CHRISTINE DUBROSKI.

AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO GET HER.

I CAUGHT HER IN A LITTLE WINDOW 'CAUSE SHE'S IN DEMAND, SO I'M HAPPY TO HAVE HER DO A SOLO EXHIBIT.

UM, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE VOLTI CONFERENCE ROOM, UM, WILL BE FEATURING THE HISTORY OF ART IN SEDONA.

AND SO, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE, THE MONUMENTAL PAINTING THAT JAMES HAVENS DID IS HANGING THERE.

IT WILL STAY THERE UNTIL THE RANGER STATION IS COMPLETE AND THEN IT WILL RELOCATE.

UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, IT ORGANICALLY FORMED INTO THE HISTORY OF ART IN SEDONA.

AND SO NOW I HAD PURCHASED $5,000 THANKS TO YOUR APPROVAL FOR, UM, ART, UM, LITHOGRAPHS BY MAX ERNST, DOROTHY TANNING SOME ORIGINALS FROM LILLIAN WILHELM SMITH.

SO THAT'S ALL IN THERE AND IT'S EVOLVING.

AND SO I WANNA THANK MARK ROUND, WHO'S THE ART HISTORIAN WHO'S HELPING ME WITH THESE PANELS THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.

UM, AND THAT WILL BE A PERMANENT SPACE IN THAT ROOM.

AND SO JUST THIS ROOM WILL ROTATE AND IT WILL MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR EVERYONE.

SO, UM, I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND ALSO I WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM ALSO INCLUDING, UM, TO INCLUDE THE NATIVE COMMUNITY.

UH, CHARLES LOMA WAS A HOPI ARTIST WHO HELPED TO FIND SEDONAS ART EDUCATION SCENE IN THE MID FIFTIES.

HE TAUGHT AT THE SEDONA ARTS CENTER AND THE OLD SCHOOL HOUSE ON BREW BREWER ROAD.

HE ALSO WORKED ALONGSIDE VISIONARIES LIKE MASON CABRON IN 58, WHO ESTABLISHED THE SEDONA ART CENTER.

AND, UM, THAT WAS CALLED CANYON KIVA AT THE TIME.

AND DR. HARRY WOOD, WHO WAS AT A SU AND A DEPARTMENT CHAIR FROM 55 TO 1976.

SO THIS ROOM IS GONNA HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT THE ARTS AND CULTURE OF OUR HISTORY IN THE ARTS, AND THAT'S ALL EVOLVING.

OKAY, SO FOR TODAY'S MOMENT OF ART, I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING CHRISTINE DUBROSKI, WHO HAS BEEN PAINTING AND CELEBRATING THE BEAUTY OF OUR NATURAL SURROUNDINGS FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

THIS EXHIBIT WENT UP ON JANUARY 5TH, AND SHE ALREADY SOLD TWO PAINTINGS.

THANK YOU TO BOTH BUYERS, INCLUDING OUR DC AND BARBARA WHITEHORN.

UM, AND AS A RESIDENT OF CLARKDALE, SHE RELOCATED TO ARIZONA FROM NEW YORK STATE, WANTING TO CAPTURE THE MOODS AND LIGHT OF THE SOUTHWEST.

THE DRY CLEAR ENVIRONMENT WAS A DRASTIC CHANGE.

SO SHE HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY IN PLAIN AIR TO LEARN THE SUBTLETIES OF THE VERY TERRAIN WORKING IN PASTEL AND OIL.

SHE HAS MADE HER MARK AS AN IMPRESSIONIST PAINTER.

THE AZURE SKIES BRILLIANT LIGHT AND VIBRANT HIGH DESERT USE,

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HER PAINTINGS HAVE BEEN EXHIBITED ACROSS THE US AND IN EUROPE, GARDENING NUMEROUS AWARDS AND DISTINCTIONS ALONG THE WAY.

SHE HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF NUMEROUS MAGAZINE ARTICLES MOST RECENTLY IN DECEMBER, ISSUE OF SEDONA MONTHLY, AND SHE'S DELIGHTED TO SHARE HER WORK WITH YOU TODAY.

PLEASE WELCOME CHRISTINE DUBROSKI.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE AND TO PRESENT A PRETTY GOOD SIZED BODY OF, UH, MY WORK.

UH, IT'S ABOUT CELEBRATING THE SURROUNDING AREA IN VARIOUS SEASONS AND VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL START OUT WITH WINTER.

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME SNOW.

OKAY, WE GO TO SPRING.

THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL, UM, WALL UP IN JEROME AND, UH, THE, UH, OLD APPLE TREE.

I THINK IT WAS, LOOKED LIKE IT WAS JUST EXPLODING OVER THAT WALL.

THAT PAINTING IS RIGHT BACK OVER THERE.

UH, NOW WE GO TO SUMMER AND WE'RE HOPING WE GET A REALLY NICE, UH, MONSOON SEASON THIS YEAR.

THIS VIEW IS RIGHT FROM MY PATIO UP IN, UH, CLARKDALE.

AND I COULD LOOK OUT AND SEE SOME OF THE SEDONA ROCKS AND I CAN SEE, UH, DRAMA.

UH, WHEN WE HAVE A SUMMER STORM LIKE THIS, YOU GET EVERYTHING IN THIS ONE, THE RAIN, THE CLOUDS, THE NIGHT SKY CLEARING AND SOME LIGHTNING.

WE GO UP OAK CREEK CANYON AND WE END UP IN FLAGSTAFF, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE WONDERFUL, UM, ASPEN GROVES.

AND WHEN, UM, THE, UH, LEAVES TURN, IT'S REALLY QUITE MAGICAL.

THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL EVERY TIME OF YEAR, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE AUTUMN.

I WORK BOTH ON PLEN AIR AND IN THE STUDIO.

AND MY PLEN AIR WORK, I FEEL IS VERY NECESSARY TO LANDSCAPE PAINTING.

I GET RIGHT OUT IN THE LANDSCAPE AND PAINT IT RIGHT ON THE SPOT.

AND A LOT OF THE SMALLER PIECES THAT ARE IN THE SHOW ARE PPLE PAINTINGS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PPLE PAINTING.

UM, IT'S OFF OF ROUTE 1 79 AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, UH, SUMMER J THIS IS ME IN MY STUDIO.

AND INTERESTING IS THAT SOME OF MY STUDIO WORK INFLUENCES MY PLE AIR WORK IN THAT, IN THE STUDIO, I CAN TAKE THE TIME AND THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M PAINTING.

I CAN DESIGN MY PAINTINGS .

I LOVE THAT.

THIS IS MY BIG BOX, ONE OF MY BIG BOXES OF CRAYONS.

THESE ARE MY PASTELS.

AND THE REASON WHY, UH, PASTEL ARTISTS NEED TO HAVE SO MANY COLORS IS THAT YOU CAN'T MIX THE PAINTS THE WAY THAT YOU DO WITH WET MEDIA.

IT'S A DRY MEDIA.

YOU NEED TO HAVE THE STICK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE.

I CALL THEM MY VERY EXPENSIVE CRAYONS, .

AND I THOUGHT I WOULD PULL OUT SOME OF MY FAVORITE PAINTINGS THAT ARE IN THE SHOW.

UH, THIS ONE IS RIGHT BACK OVER THERE, AND I REALLY LOVE IT WHEN YOU GET THE TIME OF DAY THAT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN, UH, STRONG DAYLIGHT AND THE CREEPING SHADOWS OF EVENING STRETCHING ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE.

UH, THIS ONE IS RIGHT OVER THERE.

AND, UM, IT'S NOT THE DRAMATIC, UH, ORANGE RED, RED ROCKS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT TIME.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN AFTER GLOW.

IT'S A VERY SPECIAL TIME OF DAY AND IT DOESN'T LAST LONG AT ALL.

UH, THIS IS A DIPTIC AND THIS WAS A FUN FORMAT TO PLAY WITH.

THAT'S ALSO ON THAT BACK WALL OVER THERE.

UH, PAINTING TWO PIECES OF CANVAS AND HAVING THEM FIT TOGETHER IN A NICE ARCHED FORMAT.

OKAY, THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL WORK.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

APPOINTMENTS.

WE HAVE NONE TO REPORT, ALTHOUGH WE DID DO AN INTERVIEW FOR PNZ COMMISSION PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

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NUMBER FIVE, SUMMARY

[5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER & COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS]

OF CURRENT EVENTS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE, UM, AN EVENT OR ONE OF YOUR ASSIGNMENTS THAT YOU WISH TO SHARE? MAYOR, MAYOR, I DO HAVE A THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ANNETTE ICKER, CITY MANAGER.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER AND ASK TYLER TO COME UP TO, UM, SAY HELLO TO YOU AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO YOU.

UM, HE'LL HAVE HIS FIRST PRESENTATION BEFORE COUNCIL ON THE 27TH, SO YOU'LL GET TO ASK HIM ALL KINDS OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THEN.

BUT I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD FOR YOU TO SEE WHO HE IS AND HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET HIM.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

OH, MIC TYLER.

CAN YOU MOVE THE MIC UP? THERE YOU GO.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME NOW? YOU CAN MOVE IT ACTUALLY, YEAH, LIKE THAT.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME NOW? YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INTRODUCTION, AND I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET SEVERAL OF YOU, OR MOST OF YOU, AND THOSE OF YOU.

I HA UH, I HAVEN'T, I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCING MYSELF AND HAVING A CONVERSATION.

UM, IT'S BEEN SO WONDERFUL TO MOVE TO SEDONA, AND IT HAS JUST BEEN SUCH A JOY TO BE HERE SO FAR.

UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

UH, I HAVE THREE CHILDREN AND, UH, THEY ARE JUST OVERJOYED.

UH, AND, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.

I'M COMING FROM, UH, EAGLE MOUNTAIN CITY, WHICH IS A SUBURB OF, UH, OF SALT LAKE CITY.

AND, UH, I HAD THE SAME POSITION UP THERE, AND IT WAS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND CHALLENGE UP THERE, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SIMILAR CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE MEETING YOU.

IT'S BEEN SO GREAT WORKING WITH EVERYBODY SO FAR, AND I'M JUST SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.

WHY DON'T YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND? YEAH.

UM, SO I WORKED IN NEWS AND IN JOURNALISM, SPECIFICALLY POLITICAL JOURNALISM FOR CLOSE TO 13 YEARS.

UH, PRIOR TO MY TIME WORKING IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WHERE I WAS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER FOR EAGLE MOUNTAIN CITY, UTAH.

I WAS THE EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF THE DAILY HERALD AND THE STANDARD EXAMINER NEWSPAPERS IN, IN SALT LAKE.

UH, SO I OVERSAW BOTH OF THOSE NEWSPAPERS AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THEN, UH, WE WERE WORKING TO BRING THE PARK RECORD, UH, WHICH IS IN PARK CITY, UTAH, UNDER THAT SAME OWNERSHIP BANNER WHEN I WAS EXECUTIVE EDITOR.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG CAREER IN NEWS.

AND AFTER MY CHILDREN WERE BORN, I THOUGHT, HEY, I COULDN'T DO THE HOURS SUCCESSFULLY.

SO I, I MADE THE SWITCH TO THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND IT'S BEEN THE SAME SKILLSET, JUST YOU'RE THE ONE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM.

WELL, WELL, WELCOME.

WE'RE REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

IT'S SO GOOD TO BE HERE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I HAVE, I HAVE A REPORT, BUT BEFORE I DO IT, LIKE JUST TO TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO SAY, CHARLOTTE, WE ARE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BACK WITH US.

AND WE ARE REALLY HAPPY ALSO THAT YOUR HUSBAND IS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, OUT OF THE ICU AND, UH, ON HIS WAY TO RECOVERY IN GOOD HEALTH.

SO THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

OKAY, SO YESTERDAY I WENT DOWN TO, UM, PHOENIX FOR THE OPENING DAY OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS A GUEST OF REPRESENTATIVE BLISS.

SHE INVITED, SHE HAD FOUR, UH, SLOTS FOR, UH, GUESTS TO BE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR WHEN THE HOUSE OPENED THEIR SESSION.

AND THEN WHEN THE GOVERNOR CAME TO SPEAK BEFORE THE HOUSE, AND SHE INVITED FOUR OF THE NINE MAYORS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

SO MAYOR SHAW FROM COTTONWOOD, OH, I DON'T KNOW THEIR, ALL THEIR NAMES.

UH, THE MAYOR FROM, FROM CHINO AND, UH, FROM PRESCOTT VALLEY, ACTUALLY THE MAYOR WASN'T ABLE TO COME.

SO, UH, A COUNCIL WOMAN WAS THERE AND SHE INTENDS TO INVITE FOUR OTHER MAYORS NEXT YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE'S GONNA GET THE NINTH ONE IN, BUT .

ANYWAY, SHE, SHE, WHO, THE REASON THAT SHE INVITED US WAS SHE WANTED TO EDUCATE THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT HOW LARGE YAVAPAI COUNTY IS AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF ISSUES ACROSS THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF NEEDS.

AND SHE IS GOING TO BE INTRODUCING A BILL THAT WOULD FUND OUR ROUNDABOUT BREWER ROAD, AS WELL AS A PROJECT FOR CHINO VALLEY.

SO THAT'LL ACTUALLY BE A, A PIECE OF LEGISLATION SHE'S GONNA PUT IN.

AND I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SENATOR FICHE AND REPRESENTATIVE JUAN QUA NEN.

AND, UH, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.

IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO BE ON THE FLOOR.

ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE WERE THERE, FORMER GOVERNOR BREWER AND, UH, FORMER CONGRESSMAN TOBIN AND A NUMBER OF FORMER REPRESENTATIVE CONGRESSWOMAN DEBBIE LESKO AND FORMER LEGISLATORS.

UH, IT WAS A, IT

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WAS A PARTY ATMOSPHERE.

THERE WAS FOOD EVERYWHERE, , THERE WAS, THERE WAS DRINK EVERYWHERE, WATER OR SOFT DRINKS.

AND, UH, IT WAS EXCITING TO BE THERE.

SO I THINK I REPRESENTED US WELL.

AND LAUREN JOINED US FOR PART OF THE DAY, WHICH WAS GREAT TO HAVE HER TOO.

AND KATHY SENSEMAN, OUR LOBBYIST, WAS WITH US.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UH, MY REPORT.

AND THE LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, TODAY IS STARTING TO HEAR, THEY ORGANIZED YESTERDAY, SO THEY HAVE ALL THEIR COMMITTEE CHAIRS IN PLACE AND THEY'LL START THE BUSINESS OF THE, OF THE STATE.

IT'S A VERY FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE.

THEY WELCOMED US TO OUR HOUSE.

SO I THINK THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THE RIGHT THINGS THAT THE, THEY REPRESENT US.

SO AGAIN, FEBRUARY 7TH, 2026.

ANY OTHER? ALL RIGHT.

UH, KURT.

OH, DEREK.

UM, SPEAKING OF PARTIES, EXCEPT THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS BARREN WINE, THE SCORPION BOOSTER CLUB, UH, WHICH IS, UH, THE BOOSTER CLUB FOR GRADES SIXTH THROUGH 12 WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEIR ANNUAL CASINO NIGHT IS SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH.

UH, THEY HAVE CASINO GAMES, FOOD, BEER AND WINE, AND A SILENT AUCTION.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO, IT'S FUN.

THEY HAVE TEXAS HOLDEN, WHICH I ENJOY PLAYING.

UM, AND THERE'S NO REAL MONEY AT STAKE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, TRY TO RAISE SOME MONEY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN GO TO SCORPION BOOSTER CLUB.COM AND THEY HAVE, WHERE'S IT GONNA BE HELD THIS YEAR? I BELIEVE AT THE S SPEC.

LET'S, YES.

IT, IT WILL BE AT THE SEDNA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT]

YOU LIKE TO GIVE OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT, PLEASE? YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNSEL, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION HELD, UH, STARTING AT THREE 30 BACK IN OPEN SESSION, COUNSEL, UH, APPROVED A MOTION OF RESOLUTION 2026 DASH ZERO ONE, UH, APPROVING A BINDING WAIVER ENFORCEMENT FOR FOUR PROPERTIES, TWO IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND TWO IN COCONINO COUNTY.

NOW OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC FORUM.

I'LL

[7. PUBLIC FORUM]

I HAVE EIGHT CARDS, I THINK, UH, STARTING WITH SPRING GRAPH, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VOLUNTEER SEDONA IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, AND, UH, NICE TO SEE YOU, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE AND CITY STAFF.

UM, I'M GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE 2026 WEEK OF SERVICE, WHICH IS KICKED OFF TODAY.

UM, OUT IN COTTONWOOD, WE HAVE A DOZEN VOLUNTEER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, UM, EXCEPT FOR TODAY.

WE HAVE TWO EVENTS EVERY DAY, AND, UM, TOMORROW THE CITY'S EVENTS, THE CITY PARK AND REC WILL BE CLEANING UP POSSE GROUNDS, UM, AT 8:00 AM AND IN THE AFTERNOON WE'LL BE GOING UP TO OAK CREEK CANYON WITH A DEQ TO CLEAN UP THE LITTER UP THERE.

UH, SEDONA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK IS ON THURSDAY MORNING, UH, FROM EIGHT TO 11.

THAT'S A FOOD PANTRY CLEANUP.

AND THEN WE'LL BE CLEANING UP SUNSET PARK WITH OAK CREEK WATERSHED COUNCIL.

FRIDAY WE HAVE THE VERDE VILLAGES, WHICH IS OUT IN COTTONWOOD, WHICH PROVIDES FREE CLOTHING TO FAMILIES IN NEED.

THEN ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING.

THE RED CROSS IS GOING TO BE DOING SIMULATIONS OF CRISES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET INTRODUCED TO WHAT TO DO IF THERE'S A HOME FIRE, WHAT TO DO.

UM, LET'S SEE WHAT I AM, SORRY.

UH, A SHELTER SET UP.

SO THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THAT TRAINING WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR NAME ON A LIST IF THERE'S A SHELTER TO BE SET UP TO BE KIND OF A POD LEADER TYPE OF SITUATION.

SO THEY REALLY THOUGHT OUTSIDE THE BOX.

THE THIRD ONE IS THE, UM, 40 MINUTE HANDS-ON CPR TRAINING.

THEN WE'VE GOT WORDS AND WARMTH, WHICH IS OUR LOCAL.

KATHY CARLICK IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND SHE'S GOING TO BE MAKING BLANKETS FOR THE ANIMALS AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND FOR BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND CASA, UM, RECIPIENTS AT THE COMMUNITY LIBRARY.

AND OF COURSE, ON SUNDAY WE'VE GOT KEEP SEDONA BEAUTIFUL CLEANUP AT THEIR ECO HUB.

MONDAY IS THE 10TH ANNUAL VERDE VALLEY RIVER, FRIENDS OF THE VERDE RIVER CLEANUP.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EVENTS.

IT'S VERY EASY TO SIGN UP.

YOU CAN SIGN UP RIGHT FROM OUR WEBSITE, WHICH

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IS VS VV.ORG, WHICH STANDS FOR VOLUNTEER SEDONA VERDE VALLEY.ORG.

I STOOD IN FRONT OF YOU LAST YEAR.

AT THIS TIME, THIS WAS OUR VERY FIRST EVENT.

WE LAUNCHED OUR ORGANIZATION IN.

I'VE GOT 34 SECONDS.

WE LAUNCHED OUR ORGANIZATION JANUARY, 2025 WITH 26 ORGANIZATIONS.

WE ARE NOW UP TO 70 NONPROFITS THAT WE SUPPORT WITH VOLUNTEERS.

WE ARE AN ONLINE VOLUNTEER HUB, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SIGN UP FROM THE CALENDAR THAT REQUIRES NO TRAINING.

SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING THIS AN ANNUAL EVENT, A NEW FESTIVAL IN SEDONA TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMY DURING THE JANUARY MONTH.

SPRING.

YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE HAD 845 NEW VOLUNTEERS IN 2025, REPRESENTING OVER 2,500 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE GIVEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

EXCELLENT.

TIM PERRY, I, GOOD EVENING, COUNSELORS.

CHEST AFTER BRUTALLY ATTACKING HER, STRIPPING HER HALF NAKED, AND THEN DRAGGING HER IN A POLICE CAR WITH A MALE DRIVER.

I'D LIKE TO START THE NEW YEAR OFF BY REMINDING THE COUNCIL THAT ALTHOUGH THEY MAY HAVE SOME GEOGRAPHICAL CONFUSION, SOMETIMES WE ARE IN SEDONA, NOT THE SOVIET UNION.

A MONTH AGO, I SAT IN THIS ROOM AND WATCHED AS COUNCIL AND STAFF WORKED TO DEVELOP THEIR FORTHCOMING PRIORITIES, WHICH I FILED, EXCUSE ME.

I FOUND OUT WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DECIDE WHO'S WORTHY TO GET TO MOVE TO SEDONA IN THE FUTURE, WHAT KIND OF HOUSING THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE IN, WHAT KIND OF TRANSPORT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE TO WORK, AND EVEN WHAT KIND OF JOBS THEY'RE GOING TO WORK AT.

AND AS I SAT HERE AND WATCHED THIS, UH, WHAT IS FRANKLY INSANE TOTALITARIANISM, I THOUGHT BACK TO A FAVORITE OLD MOVIE OF MINE IN WHICH THERE'S A SCENE WHERE A TEACHER, UH, BEGINS TO TALK TO A PARENT ABOUT HIS VIEW THAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO MOLD THE CHILD'S CHARACTER.

AND THE PARENT CUTS HIM RIGHT OFF, AND HE SAYS, MOLD HIM, JESUS, GOD AND HEAVEN'S SON, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOUR JOB IS TO TEACH MY BOY.

YOU TEACH HIM HIS TIMES, TABLES, YOU TEACH HIM, THE WORLD IS ROUND.

YOU TEACH HIM WHO KILLED WHO AND WHEN AND WHERE.

BUT YOU WILL NOT MOLD MY SON.

THAT IS MY JOB.

THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF'S IDEA THAT THEY SEEM TO THINK THEY CAN MOLD US AND SEDONA INTO WHATEVER THEY WANT IN THE FUTURE, REPRESENTS A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVES.

I THINK IT WAS TOM WHITE WHO SAID IT BEST WHEN HE WROTE, GET OFF YOUR THRONES.

YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT US, NOT MAKE OUR DECISIONS FOR US.

YOU ARE NOT THE VANGUARD PARTY.

YOU ARE NOT SOME SORT OF MAGICALLY ELITE TASKED WITH LEADING US INTO A BRIGHTER TOMORROW BASED ON YOUR SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE.

AND NOW, ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS, THERE'S A PROPOSAL THAT YOU WANT US TO PAY YOU REGULAR SALARIES FOR THIS.

AS PRINCESS ANNE SAID TO THE WOULDBE, KIDNAPPER, NOT BLOODY LIKELY.

BUT THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS WHOLE PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IS ITS MORAL BANKRUPTCY.

ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO CHOOSES TO ATTEMPT TO CONTROL OR DOMINATE ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS THEREBY DECLARED HIMSELF TO BE FUNDAMENTALLY EVIL AND PLACED HIMSELF OUTSIDE THE REALM OF CIVILIZED SOCIETY.

THESE PLANS ARE PLANS FOR CONTROL.

THESE PLANS ARE PLANS FOR DOMINANCE.

COUNSELORS, DON'T BE EVIL.

WELCOME TO 2026 TIMOTHY BUSH.

HAVE A A GOOD DAY, GUYS.

UM, COULD YOU STATE YOUR, YOUR NAME AND PLACE OF RESIDENCE? TIMOTHY, PLEASE.

TIMOTHY AND I LIVE HERE IN SEDONA, TIMOTHY BUSH.

I LIVE HERE IN SEDONA.

BEEN HERE ABOUT THREE YEARS, HONOR, COMPASSION, AND COMMUNITY.

IT'S WRITTEN ON EVERY POLICE CAR AT THAT STATION.

I WANNA KNOW WHERE IT IS.

THESE OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO BRUTALLY END A SITUATION WITH NO HONOR, NO COMMUNITY OR COMPASSION.

THEY HAVE TAKEN L LONG LONGSTANDING CITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY AND TURN THEM INTO CRIMINALS.

WHEN SPD SHOWS UP, THEY ESCALATE THE SITU SITUATION WITH AGGRESSIVENESS, THEN VIOLENCE BY ATTACKING YOU.

THEY COMMIT AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, THEN THEY CHARGE YOU WITH IT.

THE EXACT CRIME THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED ON YOU, THEY CHARGE.

AND I WITNESSED THIS.

I WILL NEVER FORGET THE DAY THAT I WAS CALLED BY SERGEANT LEON TO COME TO MY FIANCE'S HOME.

THEY WERE HAULING HER AWAY.

WHEN I GOT THERE, SERGEANT LEON WAS BOPPING HER CHEST IN THE DRIVEWAY.

I PULLED UP, SHE SAYS SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD TAKE ME.

SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD TAKE ME.

I TAUGHT HER SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I WAS THERE FOR THIS WHOLE THING.

HER AND SHAYLA JONES WERE OUT THERE LAUGHING, PUFFING THEIR

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NOW SHE'S A CONVICTED FELON.

SHE'S A TEACHER.

SHE WAS BORN IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THESE OFFICERS HERE, THEY'RE BRUTAL.

THIS, THIS IS A SEDONA BRUTALITY FORCE.

THIS NEEDS CHANGE.

BIG CHANGE, OVERHAUL.

THEY PULL.

THEY DON'T PULL PEOPLE OVER PEACEFULLY.

WHEN THEY STOP YOU, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANY REASON TO RIP YOU OUT OF YOUR CAR.

THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.

THIS WILL GO NATIONAL.

I'D ADVISE YOU GUYS HEED THE WARNING.

PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE HANDS OF SPD IS ACTUALLY ASSAULTING ITS CITIZENS LEGALLY.

TIMOTHY GAIA LAMB BE FOLLOWED BY CHANDRA REAGAN OR RYAN, SORRY.

THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A DAY OF GOOD NEWS, DOES IT? , CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND PLACE OF RESIDENCE, PLEASE? MY NAME IS, UH, GAIA LAMB, AND I'VE BEEN A SEDONA RESIDENT.

WELL, I LIVED HERE BEFORE THERE WAS A CITY.

AND, UM, I AM PART OF A, A GROUP CALLED THE PEACE FORCE.

AND WE HAVE MET, UM, WITH ANNETTE AND WITH THE, UM, POLICE CHIEF.

BUT WE FELT IT WAS TIME TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, UM, WE FI FEEL, UH, THREATENED, UM, OTHER PEOPLE THREATENED BY THE POLICE HERE IN SEDONA.

UM, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO I WAS ARRESTED AND SPENT THE NIGHT IN JAIL, WHICH EVERYBODY ALWAYS GOES.

WHAT? I MEAN, I'M 83, I WAS 81 THEN I'M A TEACHER, UH, SPIRITUAL COUNSELOR, PRACTITIONER OF HEALTH.

AND I NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE.

WELL, IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE, UM, IN REGARD TO EXPERIENCES IN LIFE, BUT IT REALLY TOOK A TOLL.

AND I DON'T WANT THIS HAPPENING TO OTHER PEOPLE.

UM, I, I HAD A SLIGHT ACCIDENT, RAN MY CAR INTO THE DITCH, KIND OF, MY SON CAME TO HELP ME.

AND WHEN WE ALL THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OVER AND EVERYTHING WAS FINE, MY SON WAS, UM, THROWN TO THE GROUND.

AND THEN I REACTED, AND BECAUSE OF MY REACTIONS, I WAS GRABBED AND HEARD AND THEN ARRESTED.

AND THEN FOR, UM, RESISTING ARREST, OF COURSE I RESISTED.

AND, UM, THEN I GOT TO SPEND THE NIGHT IN JAIL.

SO THERE ARE QUITE A LOT OF US, WE FOUND EACH OTHER THAT HAVE BEEN UNDULY, UH, HURT BY POLICE IN THIS TOWN.

I'VE ALSO BEEN STOPPED AND BEEN, YOU KNOW, UM, CORDIALLY HANDLED.

BUT THIS CASE, APPARENTLY, UM, WHAT HAPPENED TO ME HAS HAPPENED TO QUITE A FEW OTHER PEOPLE AND CONTINUES TO HAPPEN.

SO THE COST OF ALL THIS WAS HUGE.

P-S-D-P-T-S-D, ESPECIALLY FOR MY SON WHO'S, UM, UM, DISABLED.

AND IT COST ME AROUND $15,000 AND, YOU KNOW, TIME THAT I COULD BE SERVING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.

MY PURPOSE IN LIFE IS SERVING.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU TODAY BECAUSE WE WANNA BRING THIS FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER.

IN THE HEAD, KNEED ME IN THE GUT, AND THEY THREW ME TO THE GROUND.

IS THE POINT TO DO SOMETHING BETTER.

CHANDRA RYAN, I'M CHANDRA RYAN.

I'M A RESIDENT OF SEDONA.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.

UM, I AM A NATIVE BORN SEDDON.

MY FAMILY'S LIVED HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

I'M A TEACHER, A MOTHER.

I'VE BEEN A FOSTER PARENT, A CHURCH MEMBER HERE.

UM, THIS NOVEMBER MARKS TWO YEARS SINCE I HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE I WITNESSED ALL OF THIS MYSELF.

I WAS A VICTIM OF THIS.

THERE WAS A NOISE COMPLAINT TO MY HOME.

AND WHEN I TRIED TO STOP THE OFFICERS FROM OPENING THE DOOR AND LETTING MY DOGS COME OUT, UM, THEY FORCED THEIR WAY IN TO OFFICERS, GRABBED ME AND HELD ME WHILE ANOTHER OFFICER ELBOWED ME

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THEY SHOVED MY HEAD INTO THE GROUND AND THEY SAID, STOP RESISTING, STOP RESISTING.

AND I SAID, WHATCHA DOING? AND THEY SAID, ALRIGHT, THAT'S IT.

WE'RE PUTTING YOU UNDER ARREST.

AND THEY PUT MY HANDS BEHIND MY BACK AND THEY KEPT SHOVING MY HEAD INTO THE GROUND WHERE THEY HAD ALREADY PUT A MAJOR TRAUMA.

UM, AND THEY HAULED ME OFF TO JAIL.

AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE JUSTICE PROCESS, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO FIGHT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THIS SMALL TOWN.

AND IT WAS RIGHT AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME.

MY KIDS WERE BEING TOLD THEY COULDN'T SEE ME UNTIL WE RESOLVED THIS CASE.

AND SO I WENT AHEAD AND TOOK THE PLEA WITH THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S, YOU KNOW, HELP AND, AND MY DEFENDING ATTORNEY.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST BEEN A SHOCK TO ME.

I REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST A CRAZY ONE-OFF THING.

MAYBE THE UNIVERSE WAS TEACHING ME A LESSON ABOUT SOMETHING FROM MY PAST KARMA OR WHATEVER.

BUT COME TO FIND OUT, IT'S HAPPENED TO MANY OTHER PEOPLE AND BY THE SAME SET OF OFFICERS.

AND, UM, SO I REALLY WE'RE GONNA BE REACHING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS.

I'M GONNA BE SENDING INFORMATION TO, BUT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF PERSONALLY AND LET YOU SEE WHO WE ARE.

AND WE'RE JUST, WE HAVE A LITTLE GROUP CALLED THE PEACE FORCE.

AND IT HAS BEEN VERY NICE THAT THE CITY HAS COME, HAS BEEN ABLE TO LET US COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS, AND IS WILLING TO LISTEN TO US ABOUT SUGGESTIONS FOR TRAINING.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE OFFICERS IN OUR CITY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE OF WHERE WE LIVE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, BUT WE ARE THE CITIZENS AND WE NEED TO BE PROTECTED.

AND, UM, SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AND FOR REPRESENTING OUR CITY.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IN THIS TYPE OF FORUM.

UH, OR WE MIGHT BE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS, BUT WE LEGALLY CAN'T DO IT.

WAS TWICE DELIVERED DEATH THREATS BY THE STONE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT I'M, I'M GLAD ANNETTE, THAT YOU'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THIS.

I'VE MET WITH THEM TWICE AND WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION REQUESTS ON BOTH SIDES FOR CONTINUED DIALOGUE.

AND, AND THEY DID LET ME KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL.

SO, UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM.

WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.

UM, I GO BY MICHAEL JAMES LONG.

I'M A STATE CITIZEN OF ARIZONA.

I'VE BEEN DOMICILED HERE FOR NINE YEARS.

I HAVE MANY GRAVE CONCERNS STARTING OFF.

UH, THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HERE HAVE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF THE S STONEY COMMUNITY, SUCH AS THE UNHOUSED, THOSE WITH MEDICAL NEEDS AND PEOPLE SEEKING SPIRITUAL NOT MATERIAL GOALS.

THE HUNTING AND VENDETTA AGAINST SUCH PEOPLE IS NOT ONLY ILLEGAL, BUT ALSO THE MISAPPROPRIATION OF PUBLIC MONEY AND POLICE TIME THAT COULD BE BETTER SPENT KEEPING SECURE THE RIGHTS AND THE PROPERTY OF THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED BEING HUNTED BY DRONES AND FOLLOWED UP BY OFFICERS ON FOOT AROUND 5:00 AM FOR MANY YEARS, SINCE ABOUT 2020.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I WAS ARRESTED WITH A DRONE .

THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS THAT PERSONALLY OBSERVED I'VE BEEN SLANDERED WITH THE TERM TRANSIENT.

AND I HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN MANY OFFICE HOLDERS AND POLICE OFFICERS, SUCH AS DISCRIMINATION AND DEFAMATION.

I FILED A NOTICE OF CLAIM WITH THE CITY YESTERDAY.

I'VE BEEN ARRESTED SEVERAL TIMES FOR NOT HAVING A HOUSE AND SLEEPING OUTSIDE WHEN THERE IS NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS CITY.

THIS IS THE CRIMINALIZATION OF THE POOR.

AND THE PRIMARY REASON I AM UNHOUSED IS DUE TO MEDICAL COMPLICATIONS, CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY, AND ELECTROMAGNETIC SENSITIVITY.

I WAS BRUTALIZED BY THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

THEY SAID, I MUST HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

AND I TOLD THEM IT WAS AGAINST MY RELIGION AND IDENTIFIED TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY WITHOUT PAPER OR MONEY, ACCORDING TO MY RELIGION FOR WHICH I WAS DELIVERED.

THE KIDNAPPING OF MY BODY BEING TASERED AND BL BEING TASERED AND BRUISED ON EVERY LIMB OF MY BODY WHILE SUSTAINED A HEAD TRAUMA THAT CAUSED 53 DAYS OF BRAIN SWELLING, MY INABILITY TO WALK A HUNDRED FEET FOR SIX WEEKS.

THE EXTRAORDINARY LEVELS OF TRAUMA INFLICTED AND ENDURED HAVE BEEN A MAJOR DETRIMENT TO MY LIFE, LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS RESULTING IN LASTING DAMAGES PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY, AND EMOTIONALLY.

ARTICLE 13, SECTION TWO OF ARIZONA, CONSTITUTION OF 1910 STATES, A CITY MAY FRAME A CHARTER FOR ITS OWN GOVERNANCE, CONSISTENT WITH AND SUBJECT TO THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE STATE.

YET THE CITY OF SEDONA AND THEIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR ALMOST A DECADE.

MY AUTOMOBILE, WHICH IS REGISTERED IN A FOREIGN STATE, WAS WILLFULLY IGNORED BY SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS.

AND MY OPERATIONAL CAPACITY, WHICH COMES FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT, WAS ALSO WILLFULLY IGNORED BY SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS WHO DEMANDED, AGAIN, THAT I CONTRACT ONLY WITH THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO FEEL JUSTIFIED IN IGNORING US CODE AND FEDERAL LAWS TO THE DETRIMENT INJURY AND DAMAGE OF THE COMMUNITY AND COMMONWEALTH.

AND FURTHERMORE, AND FINALLY, IN 2020, A FRIEND I WAS WORKING WITH NAMED EDDIE RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL.

AND HE

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AND FOLLOWING THE POLICE ASSASSINATION OF JOHNNY JANUARY 20TH, 2020, WHO DID INDEPENDENT NEWS MEDIA, EDDIE TOOK THE THREAT SO SERIOUSLY, HE LEFT THE COUNTRY.

IF WE CANNOT SOLVE THESE THINGS POLITICALLY, I, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A VERY SPIRITUAL PLACE.

I PRAY FOR PURITY.

I PRAY FOR SPIRIT TO GUIDE EVERYONE.

A HO MATAN, ANO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BLESSINGS.

WOULD YOU LIKE SOME WATER? I, I HAVE SOME.

UH, RACHEL COLLINS.

HELLO, MY NAME IS RACHEL COLLINS.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF SEDONA SINCE 2007.

I FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF SEDONA, SEPTEMBER 18TH, AFTER WHICH SCOTTY JALO, OUR MAYOR, PROMPTLY QUIT.

FINALLY, IT HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC, THE ACRIMONY AND THE ACCUSATIONS BETWEEN OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS AGAINST EACH OTHER.

IT WAS MR. JALO AGAINST THE POLICE CHIEF.

AND NO ONE, ALTHOUGH THE NATIONAL MEDIA HAS TAKEN NOTICE, AND WE, THE PEOPLE NOW HAVE THEIR NOTICE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS HAS AFFECTED US.

UNTIL THIS TIME, WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I'VE BEEN A FULL-TIME PRO BONO ADVOCATE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

'CAUSE I WAS DISABLED INITIALLY.

I COULD NOT WORK.

AND I CONSTANTLY SAW PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY IN NEED, PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING TRAUMATIZED, PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING TREATED TERRIBLY BY, BY PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR OFFICIALS AND OUR LEADERS.

BUT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS GOTTEN HORRIBLE, ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL.

AND BECAUSE I DO HAVE THIS LAWSUIT THAT IS NOW OUT OF THE NOTICE OF CLAIM PERIOD, I WAS SEEING MULTIPLE ATTORNEYS IN PHOENIX RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY KNOW WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN COLLUSION TOGETHER HAVE BEEN DOING Y PAI COUNTY BECAUSE THEY SEE THE VICTIMS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET REPRESENTATION FOR CRIMINAL DEFENSE WHEN THERE IS NO ACTUAL CRIME THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED.

THEY HAVE BEEN FALSELY CHARGED.

THEY'VE BEEN JAMMED THROUGH A PROSECUTORIAL PROCESS THAT IS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.

AND THEY'RE BEHIND US.

THE ATTORNEY SAID THEY WANT US TO STAND UP, THEY WANT TO HELP US BECAUSE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DIABOLICAL.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, MY SITUATION CAME FROM SOMEWHAT OPPOSITE OF THESE OTHER GOOD PEOPLE, WHICH IS THAT THE POLICE OF SEDONA REFUSED TO TAKE A CRIME REPORT THAT I WAS A VICTIM OF SOMETHING SO SEVERE, A RACKETEERING SITUATION THAT'S HAPPENING IN YPE COUNTY BY PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL-KNOWN, INFLUENTIAL, AND HAVE MONEY.

AND THEREFORE, THE SEDONA POLICE WANTED TO COVER UP FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE PEOPLE.

AND SO, I LOST MY HOME.

I LOST ALL MY POSSESSIONS, AND I LOST MY BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF HOW ENORMOUS THE CRIME WAS.

I WAS SUICIDAL FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THIS.

IT'S A MIRACLE.

I'M STILL STANDING HERE TODAY, AND I'M STANDING FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN UNJUSTLY AND UNFAIRLY TREATED AND HARMED BY WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS CITY THAT IS NOT RIGHT AND MUST IMMEDIATELY BE HANDLED.

AND WHEN I WAS DOWN IN PHOENIX TALKING TO THESE ATTORNEYS, THEY TOLD ME IF A POLICE OFFICER EVER ASSAULTS A CITIZEN, THEY IMMEDIATELY LOSE THEIR IMMUNITY.

THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE INVESTIGATED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THE CITY OFFICIALS AND THEY, AND BE PROSECUTED.

THE POLICE CHIEF IS IN THE AUDIENCE, SO I'M SURE SHE'S LISTENING AND SHOULD MEET WITH YOU, ANNETTE, AND THESE FOLKS.

YES, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN IN ACTIVE DIALOGUE WITH THE MAIN MEMBERS OF THE PEACE FORCE, WHO I BELIEVE ALL OF THESE FOLKS ARE A PART OF.

AND PLEASE COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REPORT TO US AND WHAT YOU FIND AND WHAT ACTIONS, IF ANY YOU TAKE.

LAST SPRING, WE DEVELOPED AN, UH, UH, AN HOA WIDE, UH, PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS, ALL OF THEM, TO TAKE FIREWISE ACTION AROUND THEIR HOMES.

OKAY, CLIFF, NICE TO SEE YOU.

WELCOME EVENING.

WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSELORS, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

MY NAME IS CLIFF CLIFF HAMILTON AND I LIVE IN SEDONA.

SEVERAL WEEKS AGO I READ WITH CONSIDERABLE INTERESTS, AN ARTICLE IN THE RED ROCK NEWS THAT DISCUSSED, UH, VERY BRIEFLY THE CITY'S INTEREST APPARENTLY IN DEVELOPING SOME KIND OF FIREWISE PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THE REASON FOR ME COMING HERE TONIGHT IS TO SHARE WITH YOU THE FACT THAT AS THE PRESIDENT OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DID EXACTLY THAT

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WE'RE IN AN AREA THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST VULNERABLE IN THE CITY OUT AT THE END OF DRY CREEK ROAD.

WE HAVE LARGE LOTS OF TWO TO THREE ACRES.

AND, UH, WITH THAT OF COURSE, MEAN WE HAVE MUCH MORE, UH, VEGETATION AROUND US.

WE'RE RIGHT ON THE FOREST BOUNDARY, AND SO WE'RE PROBABLY MORE VULNERABLE THAN MOST OTHER FOLKS.

AND WE FINALLY REALIZED THAT OUR ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES THAT REQUIRED PEOPLE TO KEEP ALL OF THE BRUSH AND TREES AND EVERYTHING RIGHT UP NEXT TO THEIR HOUSES JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE IN A DRYING, WARMING CLIMATE CHANGE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN.

AND SO WE CHANGED THAT 180 DEGREES.

WE GOT RID OF ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE PUT IN RE UH, NEW VERBIAGE IN OUR ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES THAT, THAT ENCOURAGE, UH, OUR FOLKS TO TAKE FIREWISE ACTION, TO FREE THEM UP FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH ANY KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, APPROVALS.

WHILE THEY DID THAT, AS LONG AS THEY MET CERTAIN, UH, WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS.

AND IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, WE LEARNED A GREAT AMOUNT ABOUT HOW YOU GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THAT KIND OF A PROGRAM.

AND THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

THE FIRST THING WE LEARNED IS THAT THAT KIND OF A PROGRAM HAS TO BE FLEXIBLE.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

WE HAVE SO MUCH DIVERSITY, NOT ONLY IN THIS CITY, BUT AROUND US, THAT TRYING TO WRITE ANY KIND OF ORDINANCE OR GUIDELINES OR, OR WHATEVER THAT PRESCRIBES SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC IS GONNA BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

WE NEED FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE DO THAT.

THE SECOND THING WE LEARNED THAT IT HAS TO BE VOLUNTARY.

YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO, TO DECIDE TO WHAT DEGREE, AND EVEN IF THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT ACTION, UH, THAT VOLUNTARY ASPECT OF IT IS ALSO PART OF THE FLEXIBILITY KIND OF THING.

THE THIRD THING WE DISCOVERED IN WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE, WAS THAT THE FIREWISE LITERATURE OUT THERE, WHICH THERE IS A GREAT DEAL, DOESN'T REALLY, UH, NECESSARILY ALWAYS MATCH UP WITH WHAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS TELLING US.

OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE DISCOVERED IS, IS VERY SEDONA CONSCIOUS.

WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED AT HOW SEDONA CONSCIOUS THEY WERE WHEN THEY CAME TO OUR HOMES AND THEY TOLD US WHAT TO REMOVE AND WHAT NOT TO REMOVE.

KATIE AND I FIGURED WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO CUT DOWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE TREES AROUND US, ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

THEY WERE IN CLOSE.

WE DIDN'T CUT A SINGLE THREE, BUT WE FOLLOWED THEIR GUIDELINES IN IMPLEMENTING THAT FIREWISE PROGRAM.

THE FOURTH THING THAT WE LEARNED IS THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.

THEY ARE A PLAYER VERY MUCH IN THIS FIREWISE BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.

THEY ARE ALREADY DICTATING TO SOME OF OUR FOLKS HERE, OF COURSE, THAT ARE THEIR CUSTOMERS.

WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF REMOVING VEGETATION, DOING THAT SORT OF THING AROUND THEIR HOUSE.

THEY'RE CANCELING, UH, HOMEOWNERS POLICIES, UH, OUTRIGHT WITHOUT ANY RECOURSE.

AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, UH, WE'RE CANCELING YOUR POLICY.

WE EXPERIENCE THAT PARTICULAR THING AS ALONG THE WAY OF DOING THAT.

UM, SO INSURANCE COMPANIES NEED TO BE A PART AND PARCEL TO ANY KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRULY A PLAYER HERE.

FOURTH THING, AS I MENTIONED IS, OR FIFTH THING I MENTIONED IS THAT WE LEARNED THAT THE SEDONA FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A VERY CONSCIENTIOUS AND SENSITIVE SET OF FOLKS WHEN IT COMES TO COMING OUT TO YOUR HOME AND GIVING YOU GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING FIREWISE THINGS AROUND YOUR HOUSE.

AS WE SAID, WE WERE VERY SURPRISED WITH WHAT THEY DID NOT ASK US TO TAKE AWAY OR, OR CUT DOWN.

CLIFF, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.

THE CLOCK ISN'T WORKING.

I NOTICED THAT.

YEAH, BUT THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING TIME AND YOU'VE COME TO THE END OF YOUR TIME.

SO IF YOU COULD JUST CLOSE OUT.

I'LL BE VERY QUICK.

FIREWISE, A FIREWISE TREATED LANDSCAPE IS NOT CLEAR CUT.

IT IS NOT A, A RAPE AND PILLAGE KIND OF THING.

WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WHEN WE HAVE GUESTS COME TO OUR HOME WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE.

THEY DON'T REALIZE WE'VE BEEN FIREWISE TREATED.

IT STILL LOOKS GREEN AND WONDERFUL.

I HOPE IF EVEN AND WHEN THE CITY DECIDES TO DO THIS, THAT, UH, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT DOING THIS ON A SINGLE HOA WIDE BASIS MAY BE USEFUL.

I HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER JOINING US IN SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCES AS WE PLAN THIS MOVE FORWARD.

AND THE FIRE CHIEF HAPPENS TO BE IN THE ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW HIM, SO HE, I'M SURE HE APPRECIATED ALL THOSE COMMENTS.

I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP.

BUSINESS ITEM NINE, A DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ITEMS PULLED OFF OF THREE CONSENT ITEMS. UH, KATHY, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? YES, I PULLED ITEM THREE E, WHICH WAS THE APPROVAL OF A PERMANENT

NEXT IS PROCLAMATIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND WARDS.

WE HAVE NONE.

SO WE'LL GO TO REGULAR

[9.a. Discussion/possible action regarding items pulled off “3. Consent Items”.]

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SLOPE REDUCTION AND RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY.

UM, UH, UH, REGARDING THE RANGE OF, WE WERE ROUNDABOUT, AND I WANTED TO PULL THIS BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH NOTING IN THE PUBLIC FORUM HERE THAT THIS IS REPRESENTING A, A $70,000 INVESTMENT THAT WILL RESULT IN BASICALLY A, UM, $770,000 COST AVOIDANCE SAVINGS.

SO I JUST, THOSE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, KURT.

YES, MA'AM.

AND THAT'S ADDED TO, THIS IS ALL ALONG THE SAME, UH, SLOPE AND HILL DOWN ALONG BREWER ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

THIS IS THE RANGER EXTENSION THAT'S PART OF OUR PROPOSED, UM, SIM SEDONA IN MOTION ROUNDABOUTS BETWEEN RANGER AND BREWER AND 89 A TO CONNECT TO THE FOREST EXTENSION.

AND YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN SOME EASEMENTS ALONG THERE AND YOU HAD A PREVIOUS SAVINGS, AGAIN, BY, BY PURCHASING THOSE EASEMENTS, THERE WAS AN AVOIDANCE PREVIOUSLY OF $138,000.

SO THESE CAN BE COMBINED TO APPROACHING A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF SAVINGS AND COST AVOIDANCE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.

SO THIS PURCHASE PARCEL CLIP WILL HELP US REMOVE THAT WHOLE RETAINING WALL, AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT OPEN SPACE, UH, FOR THE CITY.

AB 33 0 2 PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING REGIONAL HOUSING INITIATIVES BY MARY CHICO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS V-V-V-V-C-D-O ROLLS RIGHT OFF YOUR TONGUE.

I, I, I DIDN'T, UM, PULL THIS IN ORDER TO OPPOSE IT OR ANYTHING.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CONFIRM THOSE NUMBERS AND TO GET THEM ON THE PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE IMPORTANT NUMBERS TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE PER, UH, PROCEEDING AND LOOKING AT THESE ALTERNATIVE WAYS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, USING EASEMENTS AS OPPOSED TO BUYING PROPERTY OUTRIGHT.

AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH NOTING, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WANTED TO RAISE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT OR NOT, BUT I WOULD BE IN A, A POSITION OF SUPPORTING THIS.

SO WE NEED A MOTION, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A PERMANENT SLOPE REDUCTION AND RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OF A PN 4 0 1 DASH 64 DASH ZERO SIX A IN THE AMOUNT OF $70,000 FOR THE SIM FIVE D RANGER BREWER ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.

THERE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

YOU READY FOR A VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

IT WAS A TWO YEAR PROCESS, SO IT WAS A, A LOT OF DIFFICULTY, BUT WE OVERCAME THE CHALLENGES.

[9.b. AB 3302 Presentation/discussion regarding Regional Housing Initiatives by Mary Chicoine, Executive Director of the Verde Valley Community Development Organization (VVCDO).]

WELCOME, MARY.

YOU HEY, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THERE YOU GO.

AND JUST WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

WHO HAS, UM, A COMMITMENT TO HOUSING.

UH, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE OF THE REGIONAL WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY THE V-V-C-D-O.

THE OTHER NAME IS REALLY LONG AND LITERALLY IT IS REGIONAL.

UM, THE VVC D'S VISION IS TO SHAPE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES, UM, THROUGH REGIONAL COLLABORATIONS.

AND WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR A GREAT DEAL OF COLLABORATIONS.

AS WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THE WORK OF THE CDO.

WE IDENTIFY, FACILITATE, AND IMPLEMENT REGIONAL PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT ENSURE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES THROUGH REGIONAL ENGAGEMENT.

TODAY I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT IMPLEMENTING.

I'M GONNA ADDRESS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OUR REGIONAL PLANNING OUTCOMES, OUR COMMUNITY PRESENCE, THE DEVELOPABLE LAND DATABASE, THE COST TO BUILD A HOUSE STUDY, OUR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAM, THE FOUNDING AND CREATION OF THE VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

AND THEN I'M GONNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE AS WE MOVE INTO 2026.

THE FIRST IS THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE IMPLEMENTED THIS SORT OF IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 35 REPRESENTATIVES, UM, ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTING ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM EVERY MUNICIPALITY AND STAFF, FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES, FROM THE COUNTY, UM, NONPROFIT INDIVIDUALS, DEVELOPERS, ENGINEERS, REAL ESTATE PEOPLE, EVERYONE

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UM, WE ARE FORTUNATE FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA THAT MAYOR PLU IS A PART OF THIS, UM, TO CITY MANAGER.

UM, S**C IS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TONY ALLEN IS, AND LAURA IS, YES, .

SO WE'VE GOT GREAT WISDOM FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA AS A PART OF THE PROGRAM.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID WAS IN MARCH IS WE BROUGHT ALL 35 OF THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND IT INCLUDES OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WERE THE PRIORITIES THAT VIVI CDO SHOULD FOCUS ON AND WHAT WOULD MAKE THE GREATEST REGIONAL IMPACT.

UM, THE PLANNING WAS LED BY MARTINA KUHL.

UM, SHE IS PROBABLY AN EXPERT IN HOUSING ACROSS THE STATE.

SHE HAS BEEN INFLUENTIAL IN CREATING SORT OF ALL OF THE, THE LEAD HOUSING PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

SHE WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS THAT HELPED YOU CREATE THE DIGA DECADES AGO.

UM, IT WAS A PART OF THAT PLUS THE OTHER LAND TRUSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ACROSS THE STATE.

THE OUTCOMES OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING, THERE WERE THREE FOCUS AREAS.

THE FIRST WAS PERCEPTION, UNDERSTANDING, AND EDUCATION.

THE SECOND WAS MUNICIPAL PRACTICE AND IMPLEMENTATION, AND THE THIRD WAS BUILDER AND DEVELOPER.

WE DID A WHOLE LOT OF FOCUS ON THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND CREATING BRANDING AND IMAGING.

UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH DEVELOPER PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN BRINGING PROJECTS BEFORE MUNICIPALITIES, UM, MAYBE IN A MORE COHESIVE WAY.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES AND TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A STRUCTURE THAT MAKES IT CLEARER FOR DEVELOPERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.

UM, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT A PROJECT IN A FEW MINUTES THAT WE'RE DOING, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CREATING IS A CHECKLIST, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT REALLY EASY JUST TO CHECK OFF WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE AS WE WALK THROUGH DIFFERENT PROCESSES.

AND THEN WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING WITH BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS.

AND EVERY TIME I MEET ONE AND THERE'S A PROJECT COMING INTO THE VERDE VALLEY, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR COMMITMENT IS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS, COMMUNITY PRESENCE.

UM, PARTICULARLY ME, ANYTIME I SEE, UM, COUNCIL MEETINGS OR OTHER MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE REGION RELATED TO HOUSING, WE ATTEND ON BEHALF OF THE V-V-C-D-O, YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM ME.

YOU HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS OF SUPPORT, NOT FROM ME, BUT FROM OUR ORGANIZATION, UM, SO THAT WE TRY TO AGAIN, WORK TO INFLUENCE THE NEED FOR WHAT I'M CALLING INCOME ALIGNED HOUSING, UM, HOUSING THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

THE DEVELOPABLE LAND DATABASE ACTUALLY CAME OUT AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVES, UM, FROM OUR MUNICIPALITIES.

UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR THAT YAVAPAI COUNTY HAS ONE OF THE BEST GIS SYSTEMS IN THE STATE FOR A LAND SEARCH.

AND THE INFORMATION THAT IT HAS, ITS TOP LAYER IS CALLED VACANT LAND.

THE VACANT LAND IS IDENTIFIED FROM THE TAX ROLLS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT THE COUNTY HAS AVAILABLE TO IT.

IT'S NOT REAL EFFECTIVE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LAND IS DEVELOPABLE IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

SO I WORKED WITH ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE MUNICIPALITIES EACH GAVE US, GOD BLESS YOU, UM, MAPPING AND SHAPE FILES, WHICH WE SHARED WITH, UM, THE COUNTY.

AND THEY HAVE CREATED A WHOLE NEW LAYER IN THEIR DATABASE CALLED DEVELOPABLE LAND.

ANY DEVELOPER OR ANYONE ELSE WHO SEARCHES THAT, IT ACTUALLY PULLS UP NOT JUST THE LAND INFORMATION, BUT THEY'VE CREATED WITHIN THE LAYER THE CONTACT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF SOMEONE IS SEARCHING PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF SEDONA, MR. ALLEN'S NAME COMES UP WITH HIS PHONE NUMBER, AWESOME.

YEAH, I KNEW YOU LIKED THAT , BUT IT'S DONE THAT WAY WITH EACH, YOU KNOW, WITH EACH COMMUNITY.

AND IT ALSO PROVIDES A LINK BACK TO, UM, OUR WEBSITE.

WE HAVE A WEBPAGE WITH ALL OF THIS INFORMATION ON IT WHERE AGAIN, WE IDENTIFY THE LEADERSHIP IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN THE COUNTY SO THAT IF INDIVIDUALS ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO A PROJECT, THEY CAN, THE EXCITING PART ABOUT THIS IS ACTUALLY ALL OF YAVAPAI COUNTY, JEREMY DYE IS WORKING TO GET ALL OF YAVAPAI COUNTY AS A PART OF THIS.

AND THE COUNTY IS EVEN, UM, PUT INTO THEIR CALENDAR EVERY JUNE.

THEY WILL REACH OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES FOR UPDATED INFORMATION.

AND IT'S NOT AS PREVALENT HERE IN SEDONA, BUT PARTICULARLY IN CAMP VERDE WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT IS OPEN AND WILL

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NEVER BE SOLD.

SRP HAS ABOUT 140 ACRES AND IT'S GREAT PROPERTY, BUT THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO SELL IT.

AND, AND SO THERE'S PROPERTY LIKE THAT, AND THIS MAKES IT A WHOLE LOT EASIER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPERS LOOKING FOR AND IDENTIFYING PROPERTY AND DREAMING ABOUT IT AND FINDING OUT THAT THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

THE NEXT THING WE DID WAS A, A STUDY ON THE COST TO BUILD A HOUSE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD DEVELOPED THIS WITH A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.

WE SHARED IT WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INDIVIDUALS, GOT BACK GREAT FEEDBACK.

WE KNEW IT WOULD NEED EDITING.

AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE IN ITS WISDOM CAME OUT AND SAID THAT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES NEED TO HAVE TEMPLATES AT AN 800 SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, 12 TO 1400 SQUARE FOOT IN 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.

SO WE FELT THAT THIS REALLY WAS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE STUDY AT THIS POINT.

SO AS SOON AS THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE STARTED TO COMPLY WITH THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENT, WHICH I THINK IS TO BE DONE BY JUNE, WE WILL THEN GO BACK AND UPDATE THE STUDY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REDO THE MEETINGS.

WHAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE STUDY, AND, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS EVER SINCE WE DID THE, THE HOUSING STUDY FIVE YEARS AGO WITH VIVI RIO IS, IS THAT WITH THE STUDY, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED EVERY COST BY LINE ITEM IN BUILDING A HOUSE BY ADDING NEW LINE ITEMS. PEOPLE CAN NOW SEE WHAT THAT REALLY DOES TO THE AFFORDABILITY OR WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON OUR HOMES, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S NOT GLARINGLY IN OUR FACE.

WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT HAVE FINANCIAL IMPACT, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT AWARE OF THE COMPLETE IMPACT BY SMALL CHANGES EVEN IN THE HOUSE.

THE NEXT THING WE DID WAS EDUCATION OUTREACH, WHICH AGAIN, WAS THE KEY FOCUS AREA.

AND IN JUNE, ACTUALLY, I LED A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WITH THE MARKETING LEADERSHIP HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY, AND WE CAME UP WITH A MARKETING PLAN, UM, AND SOME BRANDING AND IMAGING IDEAS.

I'M GONNA SHARE THOSE WITH YOU IN A MINUTE.

THE OTHER THING IS WE CREATED A MEDIA ASSET PAGE THEN ON THE V-V-C-D-O WEBSITE SO THAT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES AND NON-PROFITS, NONPROFITS, UM, AND OTHER CHAMBERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION.

WHAT WE DID IS WE IDENTIFIED SIX KEY IMAGES THAT THE REGION EMBRACED THAT WE COULD USE WHEN WE START TO TALK ABOUT, UM, HOUSING.

UM, AND THE ROLE OF THE CDO WILL ACTUALLY BE WRITING NEWSLETTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ABOUT KEY ISSUES.

THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION AVAILABLE ABOUT HOUSING.

AND IF WE CAN START COMMUNICATING SOME OF THAT AND DOING IT REGIONALLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK TO MAYBE INFORM AND CHANGE MINDS BECAUSE THERE IS MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT IT.

THE THREE TAGLINES WE CAME UP WITH ARE A HOME FOR EVERY STAGE OF LIFE, THE COMMUNITY WE WANT, AND YOUR NEW HOME AWAITS.

AND AS I SAID, WE HAVE THE MEDIA ASSET PAGE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WITH SEDONA, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEB PAGE AND IT'LL HAVE THE CITY OF SEDONA AND EVERY ONE OF THE IMAGES HAS EVERY ONE OF THE TAGLINES ON IT ALONG WITH YOUR LOGO.

SO AS WE WRITE THE DIFFERENT COPY FOR THE NEWSLETTERS, ET CETERA, THE IMAGES FROM THE ACTUAL MUNICIPALITY OR ORGANIZATION CAN BE INCORPORATED IN, SO THERE'S GREATER OWNERSHIP.

IT'S NOT JUST THE V-V-C-D-O THAT IS PUTTING THE INFORMATION OUT.

I LOVE THE TAGLINE AT HOME FOR EVERY STAGE OF YOUR LIFE.

THANK YOU .

AND I THINK, AND I AGREE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST SORT OF THE YOUNG, IT'S THOSE OF US THAT ARE GETTING MORE SENIOR THAT ARE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BALANCE ACROSS THE ENTIRE CONTINUUM OF NEEDS FOR HOUSING.

TO ME, ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS YEAR IS WE'VE CREATED THE VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

UM, OUR BOARD HAS MADE A COMMITMENT WITHIN THE LAND TRUST TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE MISS MISSING MIDDLE OR MIDDLE INCOME.

THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE FOCUSING ON THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE IN THE REGION.

MOST OF THAT IS WITH RENTAL TYPE PROPERTIES, UM, LITECH IN MANY CASES.

AND SO WE DECIDED THAT THE MIDDLE INCOME GROUP WAS ONE THAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HOUSES FOR.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE CREATED WHAT'S CALLED OUR GROUND LEASE DOCUMENT.

UM, A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS ABOUT A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS HOW THE PROPERTIES ARE SOLD.

UM, SO LET ME JUST CLARIFY THAT

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IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW AND PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE TWO KEY COMPONENTS OF A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

THE FIRST ONE IS CALLED THE GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT, AND THE SECOND KEY COMPONENT IS SHARED EQUITY.

THE GROUND LEASE MEANS THAT NON-PROFIT, THE GRANT CAP, THE C THE V-B-C-L-T HAS TO BE A NONPROFIT.

LET'S SAY WE GET A DO A DONATION OF LAND OR A LAND AND A HOUSE, RIGHT? A FEW MONTHS AGO WE WERE LOOKING AT ONE IN TOWN OF JEROME.

SO I'M GONNA PICK ON THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

A HOUSE WITH PROPERTY, IT WAS APPRAISED AT $3,000.

THAT WAS 3000 OR 300,000.

DON'T WE WISH, RIGHT? UM, SO WE WOULD'VE PUT THAT INTO THE LAND TRUST.

WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE LAND TRUST, THE LAND STAYS IN THE LAND TRUST IN PERPETUITY.

IT IS NEVER, EVER, EVER SOLD.

UM, INSTEAD OF JUST BEING IN RENTALS, WE WANT OUR EMPLOYEES WHO WE'VE TRAINED AND RECRUITED TO STAY.

UM, SOMEONE ASKED ME LAST WEEK AT A PRESENTATION, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE V-V-C-D-O? EVERY NONPROFIT BYLAWS HAVE TO HAVE IN IT THAT THE ASSETS TRANSFER TO ANOTHER NONPROFIT.

THAT'S THE LAW, RIGHT? SO WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE LAND TRUST IS THAT, LET'S SAY WE SOLD THE VERTICAL HOME, UM, IN JEROME, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN AT $200,000, THE OWNERS WOULD'VE PAID WHAT'S CALLED A GROUND LEASE ON THE LAND.

NOW EVERYBODY'S THINKING, WELL WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE LAND LEASES WE HAVE HERE WHERE IT'S A THOUSAND OR 1500? THE GROUND LEASE IN A LAND TRUST IS NOMINAL.

UM, FOR THE PROPERTY IN JEROME, THE HOMEOWNERS WOULD'VE PAID A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.

OUR GROUND LEASE IS SET UP THAT IT'S 1% OF THE VALUE OF THE LAND ANNUALLY.

SO THAT PROPERTY OWNER WOULD'VE PAID ACTUALLY $1,100 A YEAR TO LEASE THE LAND.

THE LEGAL DOCUMENT SAYS IT CAN BE EVALUATED EVERY FIVE YEARS AND CAN ONLY EVER GO UP 15%.

THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF A LAND TRUST ON ONE LEVEL, BECAUSE WE GUARANTEE THAT THE HOUSE, THE COST OF THE LAND NEVER GOES UP AND IT ALLOWS US TO SELL THE HOUSE IN A SENSE, AT A REDUCED LEVEL.

WHAT DOES SHARED EQUITY MEAN? WELL, THAT MEANS IS THAT THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE.

WHEN A HOMEOWNER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A LAND TRUST, LET'S SAY THE HOMEOWNER HAS DONE GREAT, RIGHT? THEY'VE BEEN PAYING ON THEIR MORTGAGE, THEY BUILT EQUITY, THEY GO TO SELL THE HOUSE BECAUSE THEY CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

WE REAPPRAISE THE HOUSE.

AND LET'S SAY THE HOUSE ITSELF, INSTEAD OF AT 200,000, APPRAISES AT 220,000.

A PART OF THE SHARED EQUITY PROGRAM THEN IS THAT HOMEOWNER WILL GET CREDIT FOR $5,000 OF THE INCREASE IN EQUITY.

THE OTHER 15,000 TRANSFERS BACK TO, UM, THE LAND TRUST, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THAT MUCH, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE KEEP ADDING ON THE INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BECOMES UNAFFORDABLE.

THE OTHER FINAL AGREEMENT THAT ANY HOMEOWNER WHO BUYS WITHIN THE LAND TRUST AGREES THAT THE PERSON, THE NEXT PERSON THAT OWNS THE HOME, HAS TO ALSO BE WITHIN THOSE, UM, INCOME RANGES AS DEFINED BY AFFORDABLE.

SO THEY COULD SELL IT MAYBE TO A FAMILY MEMBER.

HOWEVER, THAT FAMILY MEMBER HAS TO MEET THE AFFORDABILITY GUIDELINES.

THE LAND TRUST ALSO ALWAYS MAINTAINS RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL AS WELL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR BOARD ALSO DECIDED, AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

YOU KNOW, THE LOW INCOME LITECH OFTEN FOCUSES ON 80 TO 60%.

WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, IF WE REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON GETTING OUR HOMEOWNERS THE, THE MIDDLE INCOME, WE NEED TO LOOK AT 150 PER 150% A MI IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, A MI AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

AND A FOUR FAMILY HOUSEHOLD IS 87,300.

SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE IT CAN GO.

BUT EVEN IF YOU'RE MAKING AS A FAMILY $125,000, YOU STILL HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER COMMITMENTS.

IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, FOUR MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY PROBABLY HAVE A CAR THAT YOU'RE PAYING OFF SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION, DEBT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO 125,000 IN INCOME DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET YOU A WHOLE LOT OF HOUSE THESE DAYS.

AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE WORKFORCE IS ABLE TO PURCHASE A HOUSE.

AND THERE ARE A FEW REASONS WHY.

UM, THERE'S BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN HOMES, THEY GROW THEIR EQUITY, THEY TEND TO STAY LONGER.

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UM, SO THAT IS THE REAL COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SORT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO IS WORKING WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

I MENTIONED THE TOWN OF JEROME.

UH, WE DID PUT IN A BID FOR THIS AND THE TOWN DECIDED THAT THEY REALLY WANTED MORE MONEY THAN WE COULD PAY THEM FOR THE HOUSE.

AND SO, UM, THEY DECIDED TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR BID.

'CAUSE THEY REALLY DO NEED TO BUY A GARBAGE TRUCK.

UM, SO THAT'S, THEY DENIED OUR BID.

SO THEY'RE IN THAT OTHER PROCESS.

BUT IT WAS A SIX MONTH LONG PROCESS AND GETTING CONSTRUCTION BIDS AND GETTING APPRAISALS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE A PART OF LOOKING AT DIFFERENT HOME OPPORTUNITIES.

WHOOPS.

THE MOST EXCITING THING THAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT IN AUGUST WHEN I WAS AT THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING CONFERENCE, I MET A GENTLEMAN, HIS WIFE, BY THE NAME OF KELLY AND MONA SANDS.

UM, THEY OWN ICON BUILDERS, BUT HE IS ALSO A GREAT PHILANTHROPIST AND A LANDOWNER HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LAND DONATION.

AND TWO DAYS BEFORE THANKSGIVING, WE CLOSED ON 14 ACRES OF PROPERTY ON TWO 60 THAT WE ARE NOW MOVING FORWARD TO BUILD ABOUT 45 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON AS A PART OF THE LAND TRUST MODEL.

SO THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

WE'RE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF CAMP VERDE, WORKING ON SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED AND THINGS THAT WE NEED.

IT'S GONNA REQUIRE, UM, A ZONING CHANGE, UM, BUT WE THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD ABOUT 45 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH THE PROCESS ON THAT.

SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO A COUPLE OF OTHER MAJOR DONORS THAT HAVE LAND, UM, IN OTHER PLACES IN THE VERDE VALLEY, SO WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL.

FINALLY, YOU KNOW, AS THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS? UM, THE KEY IS MAKING PRESENTATIONS.

UM, MEETING WITH YOU TONIGHT.

I MET WITH YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING.

I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK.

I, SO JUST GOING OUT AND SHARING THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORK, WE NEED ENGAGEMENT FROM ACROSS THE REGION, UM, IN MOVING FORWARD.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M GONNA BE ASKING FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

SO ANNETTE WILL PROBABLY BE HEARING FROM ME, UM, UH, REGARDING SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

I ALSO INVITE YOU, IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE WHO HAS A HOME OR PROPERTY THAT THEY'D LIKE TO DONATE INTO THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, PLEASE CALL ME.

UM, THE PROPERTY THAT WE GOT IS UNIQUE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER LAND TRUSTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND LOOK AT THE ONES EVEN IN THE STATE, TYPICALLY THE LAND TRUST GETS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WANTS TO DONATE THEIR LAND AND THEIR HOME SOMEPLACE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

OFTEN IT HAPPENS TO BE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO HAVE NO HEIRS AND THEY HAVE A REAL COMMITMENT TO HOUSING OR THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO DO IT.

AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES OF JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SIMILAR TO THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAD IN JEROME TO LOOK AT PUTTING HOMES LIKE THAT WITHIN, UM, WITHIN THE LAND TRUST.

AND LET ME JUST SAY, PLANNED GIVING IS SOMETHING THAT PHILANTHROPY I'VE DONE FOR YEARS.

THE QUESTION IS, BUT WE NEED TO LIVE HERE.

WELL, YOU CAN DO RETAINED LIFE ESTATE.

SO WE CAN HAVE, LET'S SAY A SENIOR COUPLE LIVING IN THEIR HOME UNTIL THEY PASS ON, AND THEN THE HOME CAN TRANSFER TO US.

SO THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES AS WE LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE LAND TRUST MODEL.

I ASK YOU TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SUPPORTING, WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE.

UM, AS I'VE GOT IN HERE, SIGN UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER AND FACEBOOK, SINCE YOU'RE PUBLIC OFFICIALS, I DID IT FOR YOU.

THAT'S WHY YOU ALL GET MY EMAILS.

UM, AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, AS OUR MATERIALS GET, YOU KNOW, UM, MORE AVAILABLE AND PRINTED TO SHARE THEM AND LIKE I SAID, BE THE ADVOCATES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT YOU ARE.

SO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SURE WE DO COMMENTS FROM .

EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR HAND UP.

START WITH YOU SHARLA.

I'VE JUST, HI, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

AND THIS WAS VERY INFORMATIVE FOR ME.

UM, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF LITTLE QUESTIONS.

UHHUH, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPABLE DEVELOPABLE LAND, UHHUH , THAT GIS LAYER, UM, IS IT ONLY PUBLIC LANDS THAT ARE IN THERE OR ARE THERE PRIVATE LANDS? PRIVATE, IT'S, IT'S ALL DEVELOPABLE LAND IN THE MUNICIPALITY.

CARRIE, YOU AND STEVE I THINK, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

SO I WORKED WITH CARRIE AND

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UM, TO GET THE, ALL THE LAND THAT WAS AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT WAS PRIVATELY OWNED OR THE TOWN, THE CITY OWNED IT OR WHATEVER.

UM, BUT IT COULD BE DEVELOPED AND IF IT'S WITHIN THE COUNTY, NOT, NOT IN A MUNICIPALITY, ARE THOSE ALSO INCLUDED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY? OKAY.

TERRY, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT WE STARTED WITH THE VACANT LAND, BUT THEN WE TOOK OUT THINGS WITH APPROVED PROJECTS OR THAT WE, UM, HAVE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE TOOK OUT CITY OWNED PROPERTIES 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT DEVELOPERS CALLING US ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN.

AND SO WE KINDA PAIRED IT DOWN THAT WAY.

AND, AND I REMEMBER ONE PROPERTY THAT CARRIE TOLD ME ABOUT THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE IS BY HELICOPTER ON THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.

SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE ALSO TAKEN OUT AS WE LOOKED AT REALISTIC, UM, INFORMATION.

AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION WAS, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERDE VALLEY? YES.

SEDONAS IN BOTH YAVAPAI AND COCONINO.

DOES THIS ONLY INCLUDE YAVAPAI COUNTY? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I BELIEVE YOU GAVE US COCONINO COUNTY AS WELL IN THE PROCESS.

YEAH, THE MAP.

I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND THEY, IT'S A STATIC MAP, SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THEIR GIS DATABASE, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE THINGS IN, IN COCONINO COUNTY AS WELL.

AND FOR SEDONA.

BUT, BUT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS LIMITED MOSTLY TO YAVAPAI, OR NOT NECESSARILY? IT'S TO THE VERDE VALLEY.

SO THAT'S, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS IN YAVAPAI.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITHIN THE COCONINO COUNTY ENVIRONMENT YET.

BUT I'LL ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO COCONINO IN SOME THINGS, UM, HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA IS WORKING WITHIN THE FLANK STAFF.

AND THE MAJORITY, YOU KNOW, OF COCONINO COUNTY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I AM OPEN TO TALKING TO ANYONE.

WE DEFINE VERDE VALLEY AND SEDONA IS INTO COUNTIES.

SO WE COULD WORK ACROSS SEDONA.

WE'RE NOT CONFINED JUST TO YAVAPAI COUNTY, VERDE VALLEY.

YOU'RE WELCOME, DEREK.

UM, WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS SHARED EQUITY PROGRAM AGAIN, HOW THAT WORKS? SURE.

SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE A HOMEOWNER WHO BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THE LAND TRUST FOR $200,000.

THEY DECIDE THEY WANNA MOVE AND THEY WANT TO SELL THE HOUSE.

WE GET THE HOUSE REAPPRAISED ALWAYS REQUIRED WHEN YOU'RE SELLING A HOUSE, AND LET'S SAY THE HOUSE APPRAISES AT $220,000, PART OF THE SHARED EQUITY IS, IS THE HOMEOWNER WILL ONLY GET CREDIT FOR $5,000 OF THE INCREASED APPRAISED VALUE.

IS IT, IS IT 5,000 OR 50%, WHICH HAPPENS TO EQUAL 5,000, 25%, 20 OF THE INCREASE.

SO AT 20,000 THEY GET 25%, WHICH IS $5,000.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEBODY ELSE GETS THE OTHER 15,000.

IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP THE HOUSE AFFORDABLE.

IF WE GAVE THEM THE FULL 20, ALL OF THE SUDDEN THE VALUE OF THE HOME CONTINUES TO GROW TOO MUCH AND WE BEGIN TO DEFEAT THE AFFORDABILITY.

DO THE HOMEOWNERS, IS THAT EXPLAINED TO THEM? OH, YES.

PRETTY CLEARLY FROM UPFRONT YOU'RE GONNA GET A QUARTER OF THE EQUITY.

UM, WE HAVE AN 82 PAGE LEGAL DOCUMENT, , BUT IT, IT GOES THROUGH SPECIFICALLY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DETAILS.

AND THERE'S HOUSING COUNSELING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY ARE CLEARLY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THAT'S A RAMIFICATION OF THIS.

THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS THAT THEY COULD NO WAY BUY A HOME WITH HERE IN THE VERDE VALLEY WITHOUT THIS PROGRAM BEING IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GIVE AND TAKE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LAND TRUST MODEL.

I MEAN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO.

OH, THERE ARE NO SECRETS.

IT'S, I MEAN, THE 85 PAGE DOCUMENT, NO ONE'S GONNA READ.

UM, SO HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A, A PLAIN ENGLISH TERM SHEET CHECKLIST.

THERE'S CHECKLIST LIST AND WE, WE WALK THROUGH THAT.

WITH THE DETAILS OF IT.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO SURPRISES.

UM, I'M FAMILIAR IF YOU KNOW ME, I RAN THE VV RE LOAN PROGRAM.

THERE WERE NO SURPRISES IN ANY OF THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

'CAUSE I WALKED THROUGH THEM ALL WITH THEM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

UM, AND THEN PEOPLE NEED TO BE REMINDED, UM, OVER TIME.

I'M A REAL ESTATE LAWYER.

I KNOW.

PARDON ME.

I'M A REAL ESTATE LAWYER AND I KNOW THAT CLIENTS DO NOT READ 80 PAGE DOCUMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY NO, THAT'S WHY I WALKED THROUGH WITH THEM PAGE BY PAGE AND EXPLAIN THE KEY POINTS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY DON'T, AND IT'S AN INJUSTICE TO THEM.

MAY I TAG ONTO THIS EXACT ITEM? AND BRIAN WANTED TO TAG ON YOU CAN TAG ONTO MY TAG.

YOU'RE IT.

ON THIS, UH, LAND TRUST? WHAT IS THE ACTUAL FINANCING VEHICLE? WHAT IS THE HOMEOWNER? WHAT, WHAT IS THE LOAN? IS IT A LOAN, TRADITIONAL LOAN? IT'S A TRADITIONAL LOAN THAT 30 YEAR MOR FIXED MORTGAGE.

THANK YOU MARY, FOR BEING HERE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN FURTHER

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THEY GO THROUGH A BANK JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE DOES TO GET THE MORTGAGE.

EVEN THOUGH THE UNDERLYING LAND IS EXCLUDED.

CORRECT? YES.

SO THEY GET A MORTGAGE FOR $200,000.

UM, THERE ARE BANKS HERE IN ARIZONA, NOT AS MANY AS I'D LIKE, AND WE'RE WORKING TO GET THE BANKS EDUCATED.

BUT ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR ONES HERE IN ARIZONA THAT WORKS WITH NEWTOWN, UM, DOWN IN TUCSON, WHICH IS OUR LARGEST LAND TRUST IN THE STATE, UM, ACTUALLY NATIONAL BANK OF ARIZONA HAS AN EXPERT ON LAND TRUST.

SO THE BANKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE MODEL.

LAND TRUSTS ARE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

SURE.

SO IF THE HOME IS PURCHASED FOR 200,000 AND THE OWNER STAYS FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME AND THERE'S APPRECIATION MM-HMM .

NOW IT'S WORTH 300,000.

SO THERE'S, THEY'RE GONNA GET A 25,000 EQUITY CORRECT.

GAIN WHEN IT SELLS.

WHAT IS THE SALES PRICE TO THE NEXT OWNER? 3, 2 25? I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MY GUESS, BUT PART OF HAVING A NONPROFIT RUNNING THE LAND TRUST IS WE DO HAVE THE FREEDOM.

I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE 2 25 IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD SELL IT FOR.

BUT LET'S SAY THE MARKET TAKES A NOSE DIVE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE MIDDLE INCOME PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD A $225,000 HOUSE.

WE CAN LOOK AT CHANGING OUR FORMULA ON THE HOUSES WE SELL, EVEN THOUGH THE APPRAISAL IS 300,000.

CORRECT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL THE HOUSE AT THE APPRAISED VALUE, BUT THE OKAY.

BUT THE APPRAISED VALUE IS 300.

RIGHT? YOU'RE SAYING, BUT NOBODY CAN AFFORD EVEN THE 2 25.

SO ARE YOU GONNA SHORT THE SELLER BECAUSE NO, NEVER.

THE SELLER NEVER GETS SHORTED.

THE AGREEMENT IS THEY GET WHAT THEY PAID INTO THE HOUSE IN EQUITY, AND THEY GET 25% OF THE INCREASED PRICE VALUE OF THAT IS THE CONTRACT THAT WE SIGN.

SO IDEALLY WE WOULD SELL THE HOUSE AT $225,000.

AND SO YOU NEVER, AS THE LAND TRUST ORGANIZATION, YOU NEVER TAKE A PIECE OF THE ACTION TO CONTINUE TO FUND OPERATIONS OR WHATEVER? NO, NO.

DO YOU, COUNSELOR, AND I'M ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THIS SHARED EQUITY, UM, MODEL IN HERE BECAUSE ONE OF THE STATEMENTS THAT YOU MADE, AND I'M NOT QUOTING YOU EXACTLY, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M PARAPHRASING, WAS THAT ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HOME OWNERSHIP UNDER THIS MODEL IS THAT YOU, YOU GROW EQUITY.

IT'S DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

BUT NOW THE EQUITY IS LIMITED TO THE 25%.

WAIT, I'M NOT THE QUESTION YET.

UM, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE OWNER, THAT EQUITY GREW BECAUSE OF IMPROVEMENTS, UPKEEP, MAINTENANCE THAT THE OWNER WHO HAD IT FOR 10 YEARS PUT IN, BUT NOW THEIR ABILITY TO RECOUP THAT IS LIMITED WITHIN THE EQUITY.

IS THAT RIGHT? IF THEY, OKAY, LET'S SAY THEY PUT ON A PORCH, LET'S SAY THEY, UM, UPGRADED THE HVAC OR REMODELED THE KITCHEN OR, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE A SIZABLE INVESTMENT.

HOW IS THAT REFLECTED? THE ANSWER IS IT'S DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

BUT LET ME ALSO SAY, AS A RULE, INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A LAND TRUST HOME DO NOT DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AS A RULE.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO UPGRADES AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO WHEN A LAND TRUST GETS A HOME, THEY UPGRADE IT AND THEY MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE AND, YOU KNOW, READY FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO MOVE IN.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE JEROME HOME, WE WERE GONNA IN INVEST $40,000 AND UPGRADING THE HOME BECAUSE IT NEEDED HELP AND WE DIDN'T WANNA SELL THAT HOUSE TO SOMEONE IN THE MIDDLE INCOME RANGE WHO CAN BARELY AFFORD THE MORTGAGE, VERY HONESTLY, AND CERTAINLY DOESN'T HAVE $40,000 TO DO UPGRADES TO THE HOUSE.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, KINDS OF THINGS, KATHY, ON THE UPGRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT,

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AND I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER IN DETAIL WHAT THAT IS.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, HOMEOWNERS IN THE LAND TRUST AREN'T INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THE HOUSE.

WHICH RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ME.

IF SOMEBODY PURCHASES, THEY QUALIFY AND THEY PURCHASE, UM, AND THIS IS A GOOD MODEL FOR THEM, BUT THEIR ECONOMIC SITUATION CHANGES DURING, LET'S SAY THEY LIVE THERE FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, BUT SOMETHING HAPPENS.

ARE THEY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW IN A, LET'S CALL IT AN IMPROVED ECONOMIC SITUATION, WOULD THEY BE KICKED OUTTA THAT HOUSE? NO, NEVER.

SO, SO THEY MIGHT HAVE THE MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THEY WON'T RE BE ABLE TO RE-SEE THAT I, THE CASE BY CASE BASIS THING.

I, I, I WOULD NEED MUCH MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE HOMEOWNER IS NOT, FIRST OF ALL, NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY MAJOR CHANGES INTO A LAND TRUST HOME.

WITHOUT GETTING APPROVAL FROM THE LAND TRUST.

AND VERY HONESTLY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

OUR PROJECT IS GONNA HAVE 45 BRAND NEW HOMES.

NO ONE IS GOING TO BE GOING IN AND REMODELING THINGS.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE REMODELING ON IT, UM, WHEN THEY BUY THE HOME, BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH, BUT THEY MIGHT, IN FIVE YEARS THEY MIGHT.

AND WHEN THEY DO, WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT AT THAT TIME.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND TRUST ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME.

LIKE I SAID, THE DRONE HOME, WE WERE PAYING THE MONEY MM-HMM .

TO UPGRADE IT, DEREK.

SO IF SOMEBODY, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY BUYS A HOUSE AT 200,000 MM-HMM .

AND JUST TO MAKE THE NUMBERS EASY, THEY FINANCE THE WHOLE THING A HUNDRED PERCENT.

THEY STAY IN THE HOUSE FOR HOWEVER LONG, AND THEN BY THE TIME THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE LOAN BALANCE DOWN TO SAY 150,000.

OBVIOUSLY THE LOAN GETS PAID OFF.

THEY KEEP THE 50, RIGHT? OH, YES.

OH, YES.

AND THE 25% LIMIT IS ON THE DELTA BETWEEN THE 200,000.

AND SO IF THE HOUSE SELLS FOR 300,000, THEN YOU PAY OFF THE LOAN, THEY GET THE $50,000 EQUITY THAT THEY EARNED BY PAYING PLUS 25% OF THE DIFFERENCE.

SO THEY WOULD GET 75,000.

SO THEY GET ALL THE, IT'S JUST LIKE ANY HOMEOWNER.

THEY GET, SO IT'S NOT REALLY LIMITING.

IT'S, PARDON ME? THEY, THEY GET TO EARN THE EQUITY.

THEY JUST DON'T TAKE AS MUCH OF THE UPSIDE AS THEY WOULD IF THEY WERE THE FULL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

CORRECT.

SO, OKAY.

I WANTED TO MAKE, I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T EXPLAIN IT WELL, I, AND I MAY NOT HAVE HEARD IT.

I JUST, IT KIND OF SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE BEING CHEATED AND I SURELY KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

OH, NO.

SO THEY'RE NOT BEING CHEATED.

I MEAN, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM ANY LAND TRUST PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE PROVIDING HOMES TO INDIVIDUALS WHO COULD NOT AFFORD A HOME IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

PETE, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M AWARE OF THESE LAND TRUST MODELS FROM PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, AND I JUST WILL PUT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS ISN'T SORT OF A NEW CONCEPT AND YOU DIDN'T DRAFT EVERY WORD OF 88 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS.

THESE THINGS ARE PRETTY STANDARD.

AND MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY HAVE REALLY GOOD ANSWERS.

THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE MODEL.

IT COULD BE A VERY BENEFICIAL TO MEMBERS OF THE VERDE VALLEY.

SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE WORTH ASKING, BUT THERE, THERE ARE ANSWERS.

AND THE ORGANIZATION HERE IS NEW TO ANSWERING THEM.

RIGHT? AND, AND CERTAINLY THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIVE IN THESE HOUSES THAT COULD DO SOME SWEAT EQUITY, AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THE LAND TRUST AND THE VALUE WOULD BE AGREED UPON ON HOW TO GET THAT OUT.

SO THESE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ANSWERS AND GOOD ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.

I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE HOUSE STUDY, THE STATE MANDATED STUDY.

TONY, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT IN, UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SB 1529 IN TERMS OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE THREE? UH, COULD BE SOUNDS LIKE IT.

SORRY, THAT'S THE ONE.

SETS A STANDARD, UM, THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO THIS COMMUNITY? SO THOSE, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES.

SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH THAT IN A FORMAT THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA.

SO WE ARE COORDINATING WITH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IN A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, UM, WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AS FAR AS HOW THIS WORKS.

AND, AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE, UM, WHAT YAVAPAI COUNTY HAS DONE WITH THE HOME, A HOME OF YOUR OWN PROGRAM.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RESOURCES TO BUILD OFF OF.

UM, KEY TO US, I THINK, IS THAT THIS IS TWOFOLD.

YOU KNOW, THE STATE HAS GIVEN US A MANDATE, BUT IT'S ALSO GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, HOW DO WE DO THIS IN A WAY THAT

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IS THIS GONNA COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR SOME ACTION OR JUST A REPORT FROM YOU? DO WE GET, AND I, HOW ARE WE GONNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'LL HAVE TO BE HONEST.

I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER YET, SO, BUT, UM, BUT I'M SURE WE'LL BE AT MINIMUM KEEPING YOU APPRISED OF, OF IT.

BUT, UH, UM, BUT LET ME HAVE A BETTER ANSWER FOR YOU AND GET BACK WITH YOU WITH, WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN, I DON'T KNOW.

CERTAINLY.

MARY, WHAT'S THE ORGANIZATION'S STANCE ON SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR USE OF THESE HOMES? IT IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN IT, IT IS NOT LEASEABLE.

RENTABLE CANNOT BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

THEY ARE, UM, PURCHASING IT AS THEIR PRIMARY HOME.

CAN THEY LEASE OUT A BEDROOM IF THEY, NO.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

AND THEN, UH, BACK TO YOU TONY, JUST A, A THOUGHT, I'M SURE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT SEDONAS GOT SOME PARCELS OF LAND THAT WE TARGETED FOR HOUSING.

UH, YOU'RE DOING YOUR WORK FOR US, THAT'S GONNA COME BACK SOON.

AND THE IDEA OF DONATING LAND AND TO THE TRUST, IS THAT ON THE AGENDA IN YOUR THINKING PROCESS AT ALL? OR, I THINK AS IT RELATES TO SOLUTIONS, EVERY SOLUTION'S ON THE TABLE.

UM, SO WHEN WE START THE PHASE TWO PIECE THAT LOGAN SIMPSON IS GONNA BE HELPING US WITH, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS GOING TO BE NARROWING DOWN THE TYPES OF STRATEGIES APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, CERTAINLY A LAND TRUST.

I'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE THEIR PLACE.

SO IT BECOMES A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A QUESTION OF WHEN AND WHERE IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE.

GREAT.

AND YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT REPAIRS BETTER THAN I COULD.

MARY, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT COUNCILOR, UM, FURMAN ASKED YOU REGARDING, CAN THEY LEASE OUT A ROOM? UM, YOUR ANSWER WAS NO, BUT, SO SOMEBODY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON A ROOMMATE IF THERE, I MEAN, THESE ARE HOMES THAT YOU'RE SAYING FOR, FOR PEOPLE.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE 'EM AFFORDABLE.

AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED A ROOMMATE IN ORDER TO REACH AFFORDABILITY FOR THEIR SITUATION, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

LET ME SAY IT, IT MIGHT BE ALLOWED, BUT UNDER THE CONTRACT IT SAYS THEY CAN'T LEASE IT OUT.

THEY CAN'T RENT IT.

THEY HAVE TO BE A FULL-TIME HOMEOWNER.

IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO LEASE A ROOM OUT TO SOMEONE, THEY COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH US.

WE COULD LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DOING THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO DRAW SOME REALLY STRICT LINES WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOME OF THIS BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO AVOID THE SHADES OF GRAY.

AND SO IS IT POSSIBLE? IT COULD BE.

AND WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAME UP, WE WOULD LOOK TO OUR ATTORNEYS, AND OTHER LAND TRUSTS AS TO HOW THEY HANDLE THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS.

I, I MEAN, I, THERE AREN'T CLEAR CUT ANSWERS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, ON THIS DONE MM-HMM .

BRIAN.

SO TAGGING ONTO THAT COUNSELOR, UM, THE HOMEOWNER WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE MORTGAGE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SELF-FINANCE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE THE DOCUMENTS WOULD ALL SAY NO TENANTS.

SO IT WOULD REALLY HAVE TO BE AN AFTER THE FACT EVENT OF COMING TO THEM, I THINK.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA LET SOMEBODY APPLY FOR THE MORTGAGE WITH A NON SIGNING ROOMMATE.

BECAUSE NOBODY DOES , RIGHT? I MEAN, NOBODY DOES.

SO THE PERSON WHO IS BUYING THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE MORTGAGE.

UM, I WILL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE STATISTICS THAT'S OUTSTANDING IN THE COUNTRY IS THERE ARE VERY FEW FORECLOSURES ON A LAND TRUST HOME BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THE BANK HAS WITH THE HOMEOWNER AND WITH THE LAND TRUST.

OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, LIKE ALL THINGS IN ANY LOAN SITUATION, IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT THEMSELVES, THERE HAS TO BE A CO-SIGNER THAT ASSUMES THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE LOAN.

IS IT DAG ON YEAH, GO AHEAD.

IS, IS THE LAND TRUST SUPERVISING THESE PEOPLE'S HOMES OR AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAKING THEIR PAYMENTS AND NOT BURNING THE HOUSE DOWN, IS THEY KIND OF FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANNA DO? IS NO, THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY FREE TO DO WHATEVER.

WELL, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT ON PAPER, THEY'RE NOT FREE, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY REALLY LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER OR, YES.

I MEAN, OKAY.

WE, UM, DEREK, SO DID YOU USE YOUR MIC WHEN YOU SPEAK? 'CAUSE I CAN'T, SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS USING MY MIC.

SO, SOME OF THE BEAUTY OF THE LAND TRUST IS THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

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UM, SO WE RESERVE THE RIGHT, EVEN WITHIN THE DOCUMENTATION TO VISIT THE HOME, UM, ONCE A YEAR AND TO JUST WALK THROUGH THE HOME BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT THE HOME TO STAY IN REPAIR AND TO BE WELL KEPT.

AND TRUTHFULLY, IT DOESN'T EVER SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND TRUST ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO, TO DO SOMETHING WITHIN THE HOME, THEY HAVE TO SORT OF GET OUR PERMISSION.

'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE WANNA MAKE SOME CRAZY CHANGES TO THEIR HOME.

AND AGAIN, IS IT SELLABLE WITH WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO? I MEAN, THAT'S AGAIN, PART OF THE LAND TRUST IS WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT HOME STAYS WITHIN SELLABLE ORDER.

WHOOPS.

PARDON ME, FOR THE LIFE OF THE HOME.

DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, KIND OF.

BUT THE, SO, BUT THAT WALKTHROUGH IS THE PHYSICAL CONDITION OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S YES.

THEY'RE NOT SAYING, WELL, IS THIS PERSON SUPPOSED TO BE HERE OR IS THAT SUPPOSED TO, THE PERSON'S SUPPOSED TO BE HERE OR NO.

AND, AND AS PART OF A LAND TRUST, AS A RULE, YOU DO CRAZY THINGS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HAD A HOME BEFORE.

AND THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS.

I MEAN, THE PEOPLE, UM, WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A, A LAND TRUST HOME AS A RULE CANNOT HAVE HAD A HOME WITHIN A THREE YEAR TIMEFRAME UNLESS YOU ARE AN ABUSED WOMAN OR YOU'VE BEEN IN A DIVORCE BECAUSE OF ABUSE SITUATION AND HAD TO SEPARATE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE MADE A PART OF IT.

BUT WE ALSO DO THINGS LIKE, THERE'S A MAINTENANCE CHECKLIST AND THERE'S TRAINING PROGRAMS ON HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR WATER HEATER AND WHAT HAPPENS IF CERTAIN MECHANICAL THINGS GO WRONG OR WHATEVER, SO THAT THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD A HOUSE BEFORE ARE REALLY TRAINED IN SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND CAN STAY ON TOP OF THEM.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY'S ASKING QUESTIONS.

SO MARY, HAS YOUR ORGANIZATION FORMED, YOU KNOW, AN ANNUAL PLAN? IS THERE A SET OF GOALS? WHAT ARE YOU MEASURING FOR SUCCESS? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.

ANYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE STATUS QUO.

BUT HOW ARE YOU GONNA MEASURE SUCCESS IN YOUR ORGANIZATION FROM YEAR TO YEAR? AND IN PARTICULAR FOR 2026, OUR BOARD IS HAVING A WORK SESSION PLANNING SESSION AT ITS BOARD MEETING IN FEBRUARY TO SET ALL THE GOALS FOR 2026.

I MEAN, THE TWO PRIMARY ONES ARE TO CONTINUE SORT OF THE MARKETING TYPE, UM, PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOUR SORT OF DIFFERENT FORMS, EDUCATIONAL FORUMS. UM, ONE ELLIOT P*****K IS COMING TO SHARE THE, THE LATEST DATA IN THE REGION ON HOUSING.

UM, WE'RE DOING A CONTRACTOR PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY RELATED TO HOUSING.

UM, WE WANNA DO AN ADVISE ADVISOR PROGRAM FOR FINANCIAL ADVISORS.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO A PROGRAM IN THE FALL CALLED DEVELOPMENT MYTHS.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THE MARKETING.

OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR PRIORITY IS, UM, WORKING ON THE CAMP VERDE PROPERTY.

UM, I MEAN, WE HOPE TO HAVE ALL THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT WORK DONE IN 2026.

UM, AND IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TIMEFRAME TO GET THAT DONE IS, BUT WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON IT NOW, MEETING WITH THE TOWN, WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE PERSPECTIVE.

UM, THE HOUSES PER SE WON'T BE YOUR TYPICAL STICK BUILT.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH SOMEONE LIKE FRAME TECH OR, UM, A COMPANY CALLED POWERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT DOES THE FRAME TECH MODEL.

BUT WITH METAL, UM, HOUSES GO UP IN ABOUT TWO DAYS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, I WILL SAY WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING SOME GREAT VOLUNTEERS.

UM, YOUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THE CONSERVATION SITE PLAN FOR US.

WE HAVE ANOTHER VOLUNTEER WHO HAS AGREED TO BE THE FOREMAN FOR THE PROJECT.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE, WITH THE TOWN ON INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THEM A CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY THAT THEY CANNOT, THAT WE CAN'T USE, IT CAN'T BE BUILT ON A DOT, TOOK A CUT OUT OF IT.

SO THEY NEED A WELL, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEIR, THEIR SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE'RE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.

BUT THAT'S GONNA BE A MAJOR FOCUS.

IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME TO MAKE SURE TO GET THOSE 45 HOUSES BUILT.

HOW ARE THE 45 HOUSES BEING FINANCED UP FRONT? ARE YOU GETTING CONSTRUCTION LOANS? SOMEBODY IS GIFTING THAT.

WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? WE'RE NOT TOTALLY SURE YET.

WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.

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I I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS IS A MODEL THAT'S SIMILAR TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

THEY, WHEN THEY BUILD A HOUSE, THEY, UH, THERE'S A PURCHASE, THE PURCHASE IS AFFORDABLE AND THE UPSIDE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EXACTLY 25%, BUT IT'S SOMETHING ALONG THAT ORDER.

SO THIS IS A MODEL THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AND LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE LAND TRUSTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

UM, NEWTOWN IS, YOU KNOW, THE MOST EFFECTIVE ONE HERE IN, UM, ARIZONA, BUT PIMA COUNTY ALSO HAS ONE.

UM, AND I KNOW FLAGSTAFF HAS A LAND TRUST AS WELL.

ARIZONA'S NOT AS ADVANCED IN DOING THEM AS SOME OTHER STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

AND WHERE ON TWO 60 IS THE PROPERTY LOCATED? IT? IT'S BASICALLY ACROSS FROM THE MARIJUANA GROVE FACILITY.

IF THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA.

THAT IS .

I HAVE ONE CARD, SO I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM.

TIM.

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BRING A LAND TRUST PROPOSAL FORWARD FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

AND NOW THAT SOMEONE HAS, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS.

THERE ARE NO REALLY GOOD WORDS IN THIS LANGUAGE TO EXPRESS THE RAGE AND FRUSTRATION THAT SOME OF US WHO ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING FEEL THAT THIS CONTINUED BAIT AND SWITCH BY BOTH PUBLIC SECTOR AND PRIVATE SECTOR BUREAUCRATS.

FIRST IT WAS, OH, WE NEED TO BUILD A LOT OF HOMES FOR SERVICE WORKERS, SO WE NEED LITTLE APARTMENTS THAT CAN HOUSE OUR SERVICE WORKERS.

THEN IT WAS, OH, WE WANNA BEARING FAMILIES, SO WE NEED TWO AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS TO HOUSE FAMILIES.

THEN IT WAS, OH, NOW WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE FAMILIES HOMES WITH ADDITIONAL LUXURIES, BACKYARDS, GARAGES.

BUT ABSENT FROM EVERY ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS THAT COMES UP OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE IS ONE ELEMENT GIVING THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE HOME CONTROL OVER THEIR HOME.

AND WE KNOW YOU DON'T WANT THAT.

WE'VE HAD BASIL MAHER STAND AT THIS SAME PODIUM AND SAY HE HAS NO INTENTION OF GIVING THE PEOPLE HE LIVES IN HIS WHO LIVE IN HIS PROPERTIES A SAY.

WE'VE SAT HERE AND HEARD THE COUNCIL ON THE SADDLE ROCK PROJECT TRY TO CONTROL WHAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE ON THEIR BALCONIES AND WHERE THEY CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND NOW WE HAVE MARY BRINGING US HOMES THAT PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY OWN, THAT NON-PROFIT EMPLOYEES CAN JUST WALK THROUGH AND OVER, WHICH NONPROFIT EMPLOYEES HAVE THE FINAL SAY.

THIS IS NOT FACILITATING EQUALITY, THIS IS BUILDING INEQUALITY.

THIS IS NEO FEUDALISM.

AND THE REALLY SICK THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S JUST ONE MORE ITERATION OF THE DICHOTOMY BETWEEN CAPITAL AND LABOR THAT HAS PLAYED OUT OVER THE LAST 150 YEARS.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME STORY.

CAPITAL TOSSES MORE GOODIES AT LABOR, HIGHER WAGES, LOWER HOURS, MORE LUXURIES IN THE HOPE THAT LABOR WON'T ASK FOR THE ONE THING THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS.

CONTROL OVER OPERATIONS.

A GOOD LAND TRUST PLAN WOULD'VE INCLUDED AT LEAST TWO OTHER ELEMENTS.

ONE, THE COMMUNITY WOULD ACTUALLY BE RUN BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN IT, NOT BY THE BOARD OF AN OUTSIDE NONPROFIT.

TWO, THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL FOR THE COMMUNITY WOULD'VE INCLUDED AN ALTERNATE AND GREATLY SIMPLIFIED BUILDING CODE TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY CONSTRUCT THEIR OWN HOUSES AS HUMANS HAVE DONE FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

BUT THESE ELEMENTS ARE NOWHERE TO BE SEEN HERE BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A PLAN TO ACTUALLY HELP THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.

AND ULTIMATELY, THIS IS WHY ALL OF THE BUREAUCRATS, PUBLIC SECTOR, PRIVATE SECTOR, AND ALL OF YOUR CODES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ONTO THE RUBBER SHEEP BECAUSE ONCE YOU AND THE CODES ARE GONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO RECONNECTING PEOPLE WITH THEIR LAND.

AND WITH THAT WE CAN BUILD A FREE SOCIETY WHERE GOVERNMENT STOPS AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

MARY, YOU, YOUR FIRST BULLET ON THE NEXT STEPS IS PROVIDING FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

WE'RE NOT, UM, AGENDIZED TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT, BUT CAN YOU SHARE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT? WELL, I'D LIKE TO, OR I WILL BE SENDING A LETTER TO EACH MUNICIPALITY, UM, ASKING FOR HOPEFULLY FINANCIAL SUPPORT THIS YEAR OUT OF JUST SORT OF GENERAL OPERATIONS AND THEN HOPEFULLY HAVE A BUDGET LINE ITEM IN THE FUTURE TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE REGION FOR HOUSING.

YOU HAVE GRANTS OR MM-HMM .

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR FUNDING FROM NOW?

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GRANTS AND PRIVATE DONORS.

TONY, LAURA, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THE DISCUSSION? UM, NO, ACTUALLY I THINK MARY'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF, UH, PUTTING IT FORWARD.

AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER RESOURCE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BALANCED HOUSING STRATEGY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS EXCITED FOR PARTNERSHIP.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

ERIC, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK NOW? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK FOR 15 MINUTES.

WE'LL BE BACK AT 6 25.

AB 33 10 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION FOR APPROVAL OF JOB ORDER CONTRACTING AGREEMENTS, ESTABLISHING A POOL OF QUALIFIED PAVEMENT PRESERVATION CONTRACTORS, INCLUDING CACTUS TRANSPORT, TWO LLCJ BEI CONSTRUCTION INC.

WE'RE BACK.

[9.c. AB 3310 Discussion/possible action for approval of Job Order Contracting (JOC) agreements establishing a pool of qualified pavement preservation contractors, including Cactus Transport II, LLC, J. Banicki Construction, Inc., and Sunland Asphalt & Construction, LLC, for an anticipated FY26 value up to $1,288,000.]

AND SUNLAND ASPHALT AND CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR AN ANTICIPATED FY 26 VALUE OF UP TO $1,288,000.

WHO'S GONNA START? IAN? OKAY.

KURT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL KURT HARRIS, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, CITY ENGINEER.

FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE JOHN EBERS.

HE'S OUR NEW ENGINEERING SUPERVISOR COMES FROM US FROM THE GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARKS.

HIM AND I WORKED TOGETHER WHEN WE WERE AT ADOT, ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

UH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO TELL THE COUNCIL ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE? UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING IN NORTHERN ARIZONA SINCE 2008.

FIRST WITH COCHINO COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS, THEN WITH, UH, ADOT, UH, THEN FOR PRIVATE CONSULTANT NATURAL CHANNEL DESIGN, UH, THEN UH, BRIEFLY WITH CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, UH, AND THEN GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK AND NOW HERE.

SO IT'S A PLEASURE.

WELL, WELCOME JOHN.

WE REPLACED JOHN WITH JOHN.

YEP.

WE'RE THE BOOK OF JOHN'S MAKES IT EASY.

EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

AND JOHN'S GOING PART-TIME, SO HE'S REALLY BIG ASSET FOR US.

SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT HE'S FULFILLING HIS, UH, HIS OBLIGATIONS.

AND OF COURSE IAN'S HERE AS PROCUREMENT.

SO I HOPE OUR AGENDA BILL WE'RE, UH, VERY DETAILED AND SORRY FOR SO LONG BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB ORDERING CONTRACT IS I'M, UH, HAVE AN EXPECTATION YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE JOB ORDERING CONTRACT, WHY IT'S THERE.

IT WAS REALLY CAME FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

IT'S REALLY US TO HELP US DO A THREE YEAR AND GET, UM, BASICALLY ECONOMICS OF SCALE.

NOT HAVING TO HAVE MOBILIZATION FEES AND SO ON FOR THE UNIT PRICING.

SO THE CONTRACTORS HAD A BID AND IF THERE'S ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS, UM, IAN CAN GO INTO THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT THERE'S A STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS AND PRICING IS THE LAST PART OF IT.

IT'S REALLY WHO'S QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK.

WE FEEL WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE'RE GETTING GOOD VALUE FOR THIS CONTRACT.

SO I'LL END WITH THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS KURT.

ANY QUESTIONS, PETE? YEAH, THANKS MAYOR.

UH, KURT, HOW WE DO PRICE ESCALATION? HOW DOES THIS NUMBER COMPARE TO THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS? I'M JUST KIND OF GETTING SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE'RE DOING ON THE, IT VARIES.

UM, THE, UH, THE PREVIOUS JOB ORDER CONTRACT THAT WE REPLACE, ONE IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES WE'RE WE DIVERSIFIED THE CONTRACT TO BE MORE ROBUST AND RESILIENT, UM, TO COVER MORE TO MEET WHERE OUR PAVEMENT, UH, PROJECTS ARE GOING TO.

WE ARE REALLY, UH, PAVEMENT PRESERVATION WAS OUR FAST PROGRAMS AND SURFACE TREATMENTS WE'RE REALLY KIND OF TRANSITIONING 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB INTO MORE MILL AND FILLS.

SO IT'S COVERING BOTH.

SO IT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER PETE, BUT OVERALL I COULD SAY, UM, FOR THE VALUE, WE'RE GETTING THE BEST WE CAN AT THIS TIME IN VERDE VALLEY.

, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE I COULD BEST ANSWER THE QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WELL, ONE THING IS THAT THE EXPENDITURE REQUIRED IS LESS THAN THE AMOUNT BUDGETED.

THIS SCOPE OF THIS JOB CONTRACT.

BUT HOW DOES THE BUDGET COMPARE TO PREVIOUSLY? I KNOW, YEAH.

SO THE BUDGETS ARE THE SAME.

YOU KNOW, WE SPEND, IF YOU ALLOCATE US ANY, THE BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO USE THAT THE BEST WAY WE CAN TO DO AS YOU DIRECTED TO GET THE BEST.

NO, I'M JUST LOOKING AT PRICE ESCALATION, TRYING TO GET A FEEDBACK ON THE ECONOMY AND HOW PRICE ESCALATION IS DOING.

WE'RE BRINGING THIS THROUGH HALF THREE THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, SO IT'S LOWER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ALLOCATED AND WE ACTUALLY PULLED SOME MONEY OUTTA RESERVE IN CASE THERE'S OTHER SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S OUTSIDE

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DID THAT, DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? Y YOU DID AS GOOD AS YOU'RE GONNA DO.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, HAVE A CARD.

OH, THANK YOU.

EXCUSE ME.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM.

TIM.

ASPHALT AIN'T SUSTAINABLE.

WELL, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE VERY HARD TO COME UP WITH A FEW GOOD REASONS WHY YOU SHOULDN'T SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON MORE ASPHALT.

LET'S START OFF WITH YOU GUYS.

MAKE THIS WHOLE BIG SONG AND DANCE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.

YOU MIGHT TRY NOT DUMPING A BUNCH OF TAR PLASTIC AND RUBBER ONTO OUR ROADS IF YOU'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

A MORE IMPORTANT REASON THOUGH WOULD BE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS REPEATEDLY EMPHASIZED THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO REDUCE BOTH TRAFFIC AND TOURISM.

OKAY? I'M ALSO AWARE THAT THERE IS A VERY STRONG CURRENT OF ASSUMING, UH, IN SEDONA THAT IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

GRANTED INDUCED DEMAND IS A DEBATED PROPOSITION AMONG ENGINEERS, BUT IF YOU RUN WITH THAT THEORY, THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE TO IT, WHICH IS REDUCED DEMAND.

IF YOU TAKE IT AWAY OR YOU DON'T HAVE IT, THEY WON'T COME.

SEDONA REALLY WANTS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TOURISTS AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE IDEAL WAY WOULD BE TO MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AND UNPLEASANT FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE HERE AS POSSIBLE BY NOT MAINTAINING THE ROADS.

SO THEY GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA, COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, AND EVENTUALLY PEOPLE STOP COMING HERE, SOLVING BOTH PROBLEMS AT ONCE.

ROAD MAINTENANCE SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL IS SHOOTING ITSELF IN THE FOOT WITH REGARD TO TWO OTHER OF ITS OBJECTIVES.

NOW, IF WE ZOOM OUT AND LOOK AT THE PICTURE FROM A LARGER SCALE, WE ALSO HAVE THE FACT THAT, UH, STATE BUILT ROAD NETWORKS HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN A GOOD THING FOR FREEDOM.

THEY MAKE IT EASY FOR THINGS LIKE, UH, STEPHANIE AND HER STORM TROOPERS TO COME DOWN ON YOU AT ANY MOMENT, AS WE'VE ALREADY HEARD A LOT ABOUT TONIGHT.

MORE PHILOSOPHICALLY, THE AVAILABILITY OF ROAD NETWORKS AND AUTOMOBILES HAS PROBABLY WORKED TO DISCOURAGE TRANSPORTATION INNOVATIONS THAT COULD HAVE GOTTEN US A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION THAN THE AUTO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

NOW I KNOW THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT QUESTIONS LIKE FREEDOM OR PHILOSOPHY, BUT YOU GUYS DO SUPPOSEDLY CARE ABOUT TOURISM AND TRAFFIC.

SO WHY VOTE TO MAKE THOSE THINGS WORSE? WHY VOTE TO KEEP FACILITATING THE PROBLEMS YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT? ONE COULD ALMOST SAY THAT IF THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS, THEN THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS THE CITY OF SEDONA.

I'M READY FOR A MOTION MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF STREETS MAINTENANCE, JOB ORDER CONTRACTS TO CACTUS TRANSPORT TWO LLCJ, MANKE CONSTRUCTION INC.

AND SUNLAND ASPHALT AND CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR AN ANTICIPATED FY 26 VALUE UP TO $1,288,000 SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF A WRITTEN CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT.

NEXT ITEM, AB 33 0 7, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION FOR APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, READY FOR A VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OKAY, WERE UNANIMOUS.

[9.d. AB 3307 Discussion/possible action for approval of Change Order to the Linking Agreement between the Sedona Police Department and Zetron, Inc., in the amount of $755,510.26.]

THANK YOU GUYS TO THE LINKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TRON TRON IN THE AMOUNT OF $755,510 AND 26 CENTS.

SO AARON, CHIEF, CHIEF , TWO CHIEFS, AND MR. FELL.

AARON? ERIN, ARE YOU GONNA PRESENT? I AM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

GO RIGHT AHEAD WHEN YOU'RE READY.

I ALSO HAVE CHIEF, UH, MISSOULA FROM THE SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT AND BOB MOTT, WHO IS THE RADIO TECHNICIAN WITH THE SERONA FIRE DISTRICT.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ERIN LOEFFLER, I'M THE SUPPORT SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WITH ME IS, UH, CHIEF STEPHANIE FOLEY, AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TRON INC.

RICK FELT.

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SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THIS, UM, AGENDA.

BILL, IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, I NEED TO GET CLOSER, JUST LEMME KNOW.

THE FIVE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY GONNA TOUCH ON IS GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE MILESTONES REGARDING THE PROJECT AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE THIRD, UH, RADIO CHANNEL AND ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT SITES, WHY WE WANT THESE ADDITIONS AND THEN THOSE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO FIRST I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE PROJECT STATUS.

AS YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE ENTERED INTO THIS PROJECT WITH Z TRON INC.

UM, JOINED WITH SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT IN MAY OF 2025.

WE HAD A PROJECT KICKOFF IN SEVEN, UH, IN JULY OF 2025.

WE'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR PROJECT COMPLETION THIS JULY, 2026.

THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDE MYSELF, ZIN TRON, INC, SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT, AND COTTONWOOD PD DISPATCH MEET BIWEEKLY TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.

AS I STATED, THE PROJECT HAS FOUR PHASES OR THEY CALL MILESTONES.

I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE SLIDES, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERALL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE PROJECT.

THE FIRST, UH, PHASE IS THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN REVIEW.

WE'RE CURRENTLY 30% COMPLETE WITH THIS PRO PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE PHASE THAT TAKES THE LONGEST FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT INVOLVES DESIGN, UM, AND REVIEWING THE DESIGN, INCLUDING GOING OUT TO SOME OF THE SITES AND DOING, UM, ANTENNA SWEEPS TO ENSURE THERE'S NO INTERFERENCE.

AND THEN FCC LICENSING.

SO ONCE WE GET OUT OF THIS ONE, THE REST OF THE PROJECT WILL, WILL FALL IN LINE WITH THE, WITH THE PROJECTED TIMELINE.

THE SECOND PHASE IS THE SYSTEM BUILD TESTING AND SHIPMENT.

PHASE THREE IS THE INSTALLATION, CONFIGURATION AND OPTIMIZATION OF THE PRO OF THE EQUIPMENT.

AND THE FOURTH PHASE IS WHEN THEY, THEY DO A SYSTEM CUT OVER TRAINING AND WE FINALLY ACCEPT IT.

THIS IS JUST A REFERENCE MAP TO SHOW YOU WHAT OUR CURRENT RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE WITH OUR COVERAGE.

I PUT ON THE MAP DOWN IN THE CORNER, LOWER RED ROCK LOOP ROAD, SO THAT AS A REFERENCE POINT FOR FUTURE MAPS THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU ON THIS.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GREEN IS WHERE WE HAVE THE BEST COVERAGE.

AND YELLOW THEN REPRESENTS WHERE IT'S STILL COVERAGE, BUT THEN GETS A LITTLE BIT PATCHY.

THIS IS A MAP OF OUR, UH, CURRENT PROJECT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO 11 SITES FROM SIX SITES WITH EQUIPMENT TO 11 SITES.

AGAIN, THERE'S LOWER RED ROCK LOOP GROVE FOR REFERENCE, AND I ALSO PUT PAGE SPRINGS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM TO SHOW FOR THE NEXT, THE MAP LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WILL SHOW, UH, THE 14 SITES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

SO AGAIN, THE GREEN IS GOOD COVERAGE, RED MEANS COVERAGE, BUT IT'S, UM, PATCHY.

AND UH, WHERE THERE'S UH, LOOKS LIKE MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN, THERE'S NO COVERAGE.

SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE ADDITION OF A THIRD RADIO CHANNEL.

RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO CHANNELS.

HOWEVER, THE WAY THAT WORKS IS THAT WE OPERATE ALL OF OUR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS ON THE MAIN CHANNEL.

AND THE SECOND CHANNEL, WHICH WE CALL CHANNEL THREE, IS THE BACKUP CHANNEL.

SO THERE'S REDUNDANCY IN THAT IF CHANNEL ONE GOES DOWN, CHANNEL THREE SEAMLESSLY TAKES OVER.

HOWEVER, THERE'S NO REAL OPERATIONAL VALUES TO HAVING, UM, THESE TWO CHANNELS, WHICH IS WHY WE WANNA HAVE A SECOND CHANNEL BECAUSE IF WE HAVE INCIDENCES GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME SIMULTANEOUSLY, WE OPERATE ALL OF THAT ON THE SAME MAIN CHANNEL, WHICH IS ILLUSTRATED IN THIS, UH, DIAGRAM HERE.

SO WHY WE WANNA ASK WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR A THIRD RADIO CHANNEL IS BECAUSE IT WILL IMPROVE OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND REDUCE CHANNEL CONGESTION.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DO THE SEDONA RUN EVENT, WHICH WE DO EVERY YEAR, WE OPERATE THAT ALL AND UM, REGULAR POLICE COMMUNICATIONS ON THE SAME CHANNEL.

SO IN AN INSTANCE WHEN THERE IS A RUNNER INJURED OR SOMETHING HAPPENING ON THE SEDONA RUN INCIDENT AND AN ACCIDENT OCCURS, WHICH HAPPENS, UM, WE HAVE TO OPERATE ALL OF THAT ON THE SAME CHANNEL.

SO IF WE GET A SECOND DEDICATED CHANNEL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO BOTH INSTANCES AT THE SAME TIME.

TAKE A DRINK.

THIS IS

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INDUSTRY BUS STANDARDS FOR MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

I ALSO GOT SOME DATA REGARDING, UM, AGENCIES THAT SURROUND US OF HOW MANY RADIO CHANNELS THEY HAVE AND PROVIDED IT FOR EU.

AND YOU SEE THAT, UM, ALL OF 'EM HAVE MORE THAN THREE RADIO CHANNELS SO THAT THEY CAN OPERATE SITUATIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR A NON-EMERGENCY OR EXTENDED COMMUNICATIONS TO TRANSITION OFF OF THE PRIMARY CHANNEL.

SO DOING THIS WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD THAT THIRD RADIO CHANNEL, WHICH THEY'RE GONNA CALL CHANNEL FIVE ONTO ALL OF THE 11 SITES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN I'LL LET, UM, RICK TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

I JUST WANTED, THERE WAS A QUESTION WHEN WE WERE DOING, UM, THIS PRESENTATION REGARDING, UH, REDUNDANCY AND BACKUPS.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE REDUNDANCY AND BACKUPS AND THAT THE SYSTEM, UM, DOES SEAMLESSLY, UM, TAKEOVER IF ONE OF THE SITES WERE TO FAIL.

YEAH, THANKS AARON.

UH, RICK FELT ZITRON.

UM, SO THE SYSTEM'S GONNA HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT LAYERS OF, UH, REDUNDANCY.

SO IT'LL HAVE IT WITHIN THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY WHERE IF ONE CONTROLLER GOES DOWN, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER CONTROLLER AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAT WILL KICK ON IMMEDIATELY.

THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN HA CL, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THIS TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S A SITE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A SITE REDUNDANCY, WHICH IS IF SOMETHING GOT HIT BY LIGHTNING, THAT SITE GOES DOWN, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THE REST OF THE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO WORK IT.

WHEN THAT SITE BECOMES HEALTHY AGAIN, THAT SITE COMES BACK ONLINE.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SITE, UM, POWER, UH, REDUNDANCY WITH, UH, WHETHER IT BE GENERATORS OR BATTERIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU AT EACH SITE SO THAT THERE'S USUALLY A GOOD COUPLE OF DAYS OF, UH, BACKUP POWER GENERATOR, WHATEVER YOU PICK, UM, THAT WILL, UH, MAINTAIN THAT SYSTEM AND THE HEALTH OF IT FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

ALSO THE ROUTE WHERE WE TAKE TO GO TO YAVAPAI COUNTY JAIL AND THE VERDE VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER.

SO THE SECOND PART OF THE AMENDMENT IS ADDING THREE ADDITIONAL PREVIOUSLY UN IDENTIFIED SITES FOR EQUIPMENT LOCATION.

THE FIRST SITE IS SLIDE ROCK.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE ADDING ALL OF THE THREE CHANNELS TO THIS SITE.

I'VE ADDED TWO MAPS HERE TO SH BECAUSE THIS CAN GET A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, PI, PIXELATED AND YELLOW.

SO I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU WHAT THE COVERAGE WOULD, UM, WHAT IT WOULD COVER.

SO AGAIN, THE GREEN IS GOOD AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AREA OF RED.

THIS IS A, THE SAME EXACT COVERAGE, ALTHOUGH IT'S A GOOGLE MAPS, UM, UH, MAP TO SHOW THAT THE, THE COVERAGE AS OPPOSED TO THE PIXELATED ONE.

THE SECOND SITE IS INDIAN POINT, WHICH IS UP NEAR SLIDE ROCK.

IT ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, SOUTH OF IT, BUT BETWEEN 89 A AND I 17.

AND THIS IS THE SAME COVERAGE THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE BY ADDING THE SITE.

AND THE LAST SITE IS AT VERDE VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH YOU CAN SEE GREATLY EXPANDS OUR COVERAGE.

SO WHY WE WANNA DO THESE PROJECT ADDITIONS, WE WANNA ADD A THIRD CHANNEL BECAUSE IT PROVIDES FOR IMPROVED OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY, REDUCED CHANNEL CONGESTION, AND BETTER SUPPORT FOR SIMULTANEOUS INCIDENTS.

UM, AS I STATED, THE CURRENT PROJECT AND OUR CURRENT SYSTEM ONLY HAS TWO AND ONE REPEATS THE OTHER.

AND SO WHILE IT DOESN'T, IT DOES ADD, UM, OR HAVE A REDUNDANT VALUE IN THAT IF, UM, ONE CHANNEL WERE TO FAIL, THE OTHER ONE AUTOMATICALLY TAKES OVER.

IF THERE WERE ANY INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES OR ANY MAINTENANCE REQUIRED, UM, IT WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON OUR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS.

IN ADDITION WITH THE SITES, UM, THIS WILL INCREASE OUR MOBILE AND PORTAL RADIO COVERAGE TOWARDS THE VILLAGE OF OF OAK CREEK.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY JUST A BONUS BECAUSE OF, UM, INDIAN POINT AND SLIDE ROCK.

IT WASN'T INTENTIONAL REGARDING, UH, VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OFFICERS AND, UM, OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT, UM, TRAVEL TO AND FROM OR LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK OR TRAVEL THAT ROUTE WHEN COMING FROM CAMP VERDE OR RIM ROCK AREA.

AND WE ALSO RESPOND TO, UM, CALLS FOR SERVICE WHEN NEEDED FOR ASSISTING YAVAPAI COUNTY AND THEN IT WOULD INCREASE, UM, THE SLIDE ROCK IN INDIAN POINT LOCATIONS WOULD INCREASE THE COVERAGE ALONG, UH, NORTHSTATE ROUTE 89 A, WHICH IS WHERE WE TRAVEL WHEN TRANSPORTING INDIVIDUALS TO COCONINO COUNTY JAIL.

AS WELL AS COVER AN AREA WHERE WE PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES THROUGH OUR COCONINO COUNTY.

IGA, THE VERDE VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER WILL EXPAND AT WEST BO WESTBOUND TOWARDS COTTONWOOD AND CAMP VERDE, WHICH WOULD HELP, UM, ENHANCE THE COVERAGE OF OUR NEWLY ANNEXED, UM, ANNEX LAND.

AND UM,

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AND THEN THE VERDE VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER ONE WILL ACTUALLY GIVE US EXPANDED COVERAGE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND ADJACENT BUILDINGS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO ERIN, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE TO TRANSPORT SOMEBODY TO THE, THE AVAI COUNTY FACILITIES AND YOU HAVE TO GO OVER THE MOUNTAIN OR YOU'RE COMPLETELY OUT OF RANGE? WE ARE OUT OF RANGE AND YOU, UM, IT WILL COME IN AND OUT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT'LL PICK UP, BUT WE USE CELL PHONES.

YEP.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE SIX SITES.

FOUR OF THOSE ARE RECEIVE ONLY AND TWO ARE TRANSMIT ONLY.

SO WE'RE, UM, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE 11 SITES.

WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR THIS TO BE, UH, EXPANDED TO 14 FIVE OF WHICH WOULD BE RECEIVE ONLY, AND NINE WOULD BE TRANSMIT AND RECEIVE.

SO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, IF APPROVING ONLY THE THIRD CHANNEL WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 533,000.

IT WOULD BRING THE CURRENT PROJECT CONTRACT COST FROM 1.1 TO 1.6 MILLION.

I WANTED TO GIVE THIS AS AN OPTION BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE, UM, WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE.

UM, IF WE DON'T GET THE OTHER, THE, YOU DON'T APPROVE THE THREE SITES, HOWEVER WE WOULD LIKE THE ENTIRE, UM, AMENDMENT TO BE APPROVED, THIS WOULD CHANGE THE PROPOSED, UM, COST ON THE CONTRACT TO AN ADDITIONAL 755,000, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT GO FROM 1.1 TO 1.8.

THERE ARE ADDITIONAL, THERE ARE NUMEROUS BENEFITS I SHOULD SAY, WITH APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME.

UM, ALIGNING OUR, ALL OF THE COMPONENTS WITH THE SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT'S PROJECT ALLOWS FOR BOTH SYSTEMS TO BE SIMULTANEOUSLY ENGINEERED AND CALIBRATED TOGETHER.

AND THEN THERE'S SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS FOR DOING THIS.

UH, WE HAD, UM, I GOT AN ESTIMATE THAT IT'LL BE, UH, APPROXIMATELY AN ADDITIONAL $259,000 IF WE WERE TO DO THIS AT A LATER DATE, WHICH WOULD INCREASE FROM 755,000 TO A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

IN ADDITION, THE SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT HAS THEIR OWN AMENDMENT THAT THEY'VE TAKEN BEFORE THEIR GOVERNING BOARD LAST MONTH THAT WAS APPROVED.

IT IS MORE THAN, UM, THE 755,000 BECAUSE THEY HAVE, IN ADDITION TO THESE THREE SITES THAT THEY WANNA PUT EQUIPMENT AT, THEY HAVE OTHER ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR PROJECT.

AND, UM, APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT WILL NOT AFFECT THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S STILL IN PROJECT COMPLETION IN JULY OF 2026 JULY.

SO JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS WHAT OUR CURRENT COVERAGE LOOKS LIKE WITH OUR, OUR NEW ANNEX LAND AND THERE'S LOWER RED ROCK LOOP ROAD TO SHOW THAT THERE'S NO COVERAGE.

AND HERE'S OUR CURRENT PROJECT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT LOWER RED LOCK LOOP ROAD NOW HAS COVERAGE AND I ALSO GAVE REFERENCE POINTS OF, UH, STATE ROUTE 89 PAGE SPRINGS.

AND IF WE ADDED THE 14 SITES, YOU CAN SEE PAGE SPRINGS ROAD NOW HAS, UM, COVERAGE AS WELL AS, UM, GREATLY EXPANDED INTO THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES WHERE WE, WE ALSO OFFER ASSISTANCE.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU PETE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANKS AARON FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST SO I GOT THE NUMBERS RIGHT.

ON YOUR SLIDE 14, WHICH IS THE SLIDE YOU HAVE THAT TRACKED THE NUMBER OF CHANNELS THAT THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES HAVE.

SO WE SAY WE'RE GONNA GO TO A THIRD CHANNEL, BUT WE CALL IT CHANNEL FIVE.

AND SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING HOW WE COUNT CHANNELS.

IF, IF SEDONAS NUMBERS WERE UP THERE, WHAT OUR CHANNEL COUNT BE? TWO, THREE OR FIVE? TWO, NOT WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

THREE.

EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GONNA CALL IT FIVE.

'CAUSE THERE'S THESE BACKUP CHANNELS, BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S CALLED THAT .

IT JUST WAS NAMED THAT WHEN I HERE, SO YEAH, IT'S JUST AS HOW THEY WERE CALLED.

AND THEY, THEY'RE IN THE PROJECT THEMSELVES.

IT'S, THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AS LIKE SPD CHANNEL ONE SPD CHANNEL AND THEN THEN SFD CHANNEL THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR, THEIR PROJECT SIDE.

LIKE THIS HAVE BEEN, UM, IDENTIFIED INCLUDING THE SITES THAT WERE, WERE LEGITIMATELY UNKNOWN BEFORE OR UNAVAILABLE.

AND THEN SOME OF THIS, I THINK ACTUALLY LARGELY THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THIS SEEMS LIKE A NO-BRAINER.

HOW COME IT DIDN'T APPEAR IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL TO DO THIS WORK? THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.

UM, WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN, UM, THIS PROJECT WITH SEDONA FIRE, THEY WERE ALREADY IN A SCOPE OF WORK WITH TRON.

SO WE TOOK OUR CURRENT PROJECT THAT WE HAD AND APPLIED IT TO, UM, A SCOPE OF WORK THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD WORK WELL WITH WHAT SEDONA FIRE WAS DOING WITH THEIR SITES.

SINCE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS, UM, TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT, ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS

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AND ONCE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES CAME OPEN AND WE WERE IN DESIGN PHASE, UM, SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT IDENTIFIED OTHER, UM, ENHANCEMENTS THEY WANTED TO DO ON THEIR SIDE.

AND THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THIS CHANNEL, UM, THAT HADN'T BEEN PREVIOUSLY, UM, PART OF ANY OF THE PROJECTS BEFORE.

SO IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE, UM, WHERE IT WAS IDENTIFIED, LIKE IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, IT WOULD NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.

GUESS THAT COULD ALSO BE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF LIA, BUT I DON'T NEED TO, YOU DON'T NEED TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW BECAUSE THAT ANSWERED IT LAST MONTH.

, I'LL TRY AND GET A HOLD OF YOUR BOARD MEETINGS AND FIND THE ANSWER TO THAT WHEN I ASKED IT LAST MONTH.

'CAUSE I, YEAH, YOU SHOULD, IF YOU'RE GONNA RESPOND, YOU SHOULD BE AT THE MIC.

NO, MY APOLOGIES.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED THEM.

WHY DIDN'T WE IDENTIFY THIS FROM THE BEGINNING? AND, UM, I HAD TO HAVE THAT ANSWER 'CAUSE I HAVE A GOVERNING BOARD THAT WAS GONNA ASK IT.

UM, TO OVERSIMPLIFY IT, THIS HAS BEEN AN IDENTIFIED NEED FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE SINCE 2012.

AND THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS OF FIRE DISTRICT LEADERSHIP AND CITY LEADERSHIP, IT KEPT GETTING SECOND FIDDLE.

AND, UM, WHEN WE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO OUR, OUR DESIGN AND TO, TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING OUR SYSTEM GOING, UH, ESSENTIALLY I, THERE WAS A SENSE OF URGENCY FROM, FROM OUR GOVERNING BOARD AND MYSELF TO, UH, ONE, WE RECOGNIZED OUR CURRENT EXISTING SYSTEM WAS FAILING AND, AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE STARTING POINT FOR THIS SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT.

UM, KNOWING THAT WE HAD SOME, SOME OUTLIERS THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE SCOPE OF WORK.

THAT BEING, UH, THE COUNTY WAS AGGRESSIVELY PURSUING A, UH, SCOPE OF WORK AND A COMMUNICATIONS ASSESSMENT FOR THE COUNTY WITH POTENTIAL FOR DOLLARS FROM THE COUNTY.

UH, WE HAD SOME RELATIONSHIPS WE WERE BUILDING WITH A PS, UH, THE ANNEXATION, UH, SOME CHANGES IN, IN STRUCTURE AT THE STATE LEVEL.

THERE WAS A LOT OF UNKNOWNS, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, UH, FOR, FOR SEDONA FIRE, I WANTED TO GET THE CORE OF OUR SYSTEM LAUNCHED SO IT COULD GET TO P 25 COMPLIANCE, UH, FULLY KNOWING THAT WE MIGHT IDENTIFY SOME NEW SITES ALONG THE WAY.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

AND SOME OF 'EM WERE BY CIRCUMSTANCE, SOME OF 'EM WERE PURPOSEFUL.

BUT ULTIMATELY AT, I, I CALLED IT A TWO PHASED APPROACH.

AND, AND INITIALLY THIS QUOTE, WHAT I'M CALLING A SECOND PHASE I ANTICIPATED WAS GONNA BE FARTHER OUT.

BUT THEN RECOGNIZING THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND GETTING THE SYSTEMS BUILT TO OUR NEEDS.

PLUS, UH, ENHANCING THE SYSTEM AT, AT THIS TIME WE RECOGNIZE THE DOLLAR SAVINGS AND THE, THE DOWNSTREAM OF, UH, IF ANYBODY OWNS A PERSONAL COMPUTER OR AN IPHONE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE ONE WE'RE IN, THAT YOU BOUGHT TODAY IS NO GOOD IN TWO YEARS.

AND SO IF, IF WE BUILD THE ENTIRETY OF THE SYSTEM TO BE COMPLIANT WITH ALL THE COMPONENTS, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY COMPONENT NOWADAYS WITH RADIO SYSTEMS HAS A SOFTWARE PACKAGE INVOLVED THAT HAS TO CONTROL IT.

SO THE, JUST TWO YEARS OUT, IF WE DID A PHASE TWO, ONE OF THE FIRE DISTRICT'S CONCERNS WAS, WELL, WE HAVE SOFTWARE PACKAGE ONE FOR PHASE ONE, AND NOW WE GOTTA GET A WHOLE NEW SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR THE NEW EQUIPMENT FOR PHASE TWO AND MANY OTHER THINGS.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE GIST OF IT.

THANKS CHIEF, I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER.

THANKS FOR COMING UP.

AND YOU ACTUALLY AN ANTICIPATED, ALTHOUGH YOU DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT, BUT YOU LED ME TO ASK THE LAST QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK.

YOU MENTIONED THE COUNTIES, SOME OF THIS IS REALLY BENEFICIAL TO MUTUAL AID AND IT'S TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY.

'CAUSE WE SERVE THESE AREAS OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY.

HAVE WE APPROACHED THE COUNTIES TO SEE IF THEY'RE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT HELPING US PAY FOR IT ? UM, SO TYPICALLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, MUTUAL AID THAT WE PROVIDE BOTH WAYS.

SO THEY DO COME HERE AND PROVIDE SERVICE AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO OFFER UP PAYMENT THAT WAY EITHER.

AND SO THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO WORK WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE THE NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL.

SO WE'VE ASKED THEM FOR ASSISTANCE.

AT TIMES THEY ASK US, BUT AS FAR AS THE RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE, NO, WE HAVEN'T GONE TO THEM.

THEY'RE DOING SOME OF THEIR OWN, UM, PROJECTS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

BUT WHEN OTHER AGENCIES COME IN, THEY, THEY CAN SWITCH TO OUR CHANNEL AND USE OUR RADIO.

WE DO THE SAME WHEN WE GO TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, WE WILL SWITCH OUR CHANNEL, USE THEIR RADIOS.

SO, UM, ALL IN ALL, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM FOR WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO I'M JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I, AND I KIND OF GET THAT AS EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN COMMUNICATIONS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ACTUALLY NOW PERHAPS ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ENHANCED LEVEL OF SERVICE IN COUNTY

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AREAS.

BUT THAT MIGHT BE THE TRADITION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE.

YOU, YOU DID MENTION ONE THING THAT SOUNDED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT AARON SAID.

DO WE USE PERSONAL CELL PHONES WHEN WE'RE OUT OF OUR RANGE OR DO WE USE OTHER SYSTEMS RADIOS WHEN WE'RE OUTTA RANGE? SO WE HAVE, UM, BEAT PHONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE OFFICERS THAT ARE ON SHIFTS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE A PERSONAL PHONE.

THEY USE A DEPARTMENT ISSUED CELL PHONE DURING THEIR SHIFT.

YEAH, I BET.

HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO USING THAT VERSUS USING THE OTHER SYSTEMS RADIOS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED? DEPENDING ON THE AREA, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL, UM, SPOTTY SERVICE AND UM, ALSO THAT'S WHY THERE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, A TEXT OR WE CAN USE OUR COMPUTER, WHICH THEN GETS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SERVICE WHERE WE COULD SEND A, A MESSAGE IF NEEDED.

SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHY WE HAVE SO MANY REDUNDANCIES, WHETHER IT'S OUR RADIO OR CELL PHONE OR THE COMPUTER, UH, THAT WAY WE'RE IN RANGE AND WE ALSO HAVE SYSTEMS THAT ALLOW US TO SEE WHERE SOMEBODY IS ON A MAP.

SO IN CASE WE CAN'T GET AHOLD OF THEM, WE AT LEAST KNOW THE LAST LOCATION THEY WERE AT.

UM, BUT AS, AS FAR AS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT YAVAPI, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN BOTH COMMUNITIES, SO WE ALSO HELP AND ASSIST COCONINO COUNTY AND SAME IDEA THAT THEY'RE NOT ASKING US FOR ANYTHING.

WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO TO THEM BECAUSE, UH, OF US BEING A SPLIT COUNTY AND GOING BETWEEN AND EVERYBODY HELPING EACH OTHER, IT JUST TENDS TO WORK OUT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANKS MAYOR.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CHARLOTTE? UM, I'M SORRY, I'M MISSING THE FIRST PAGE OF THE AGENDA BILL, WHERE THIS MONEY WOULD BE COMING FROM.

IS THERE, WHERE WOULD THE MONEY BE COMING FROM? IS IT WITHIN THE CONTINGENCY, CITYWIDE CONTINGENCY? YES.

UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, IT WOULD BE FROM OUR CONTINGENCY FUNDS.

YOUR OWN CONTINGENCY ED'S CONTINGENCY.

WELL, I COULD ASK BARBARA, DO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT WOULD COME FROM AND WHICH CONTINGENCY FUNDS? NO, THANK YOU, IAN.

UM, WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING AT USING SAVINGS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT IF THOSE SAVINGS, UM, DIDN'T AMOUNT TO ENOUGH FOR THIS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND CONTINGENCY.

BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO FUND IT THROUGH SAVINGS.

SO YOU DO WANT TO USE, UM, FY $26.

I NOTED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD CONCLUDE IN JULY, WHICH COULD TAKE YOU INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A BUDGET ITEM FOR IT.

YOU'RE, YOU WANT TO FUNDED OUTTA THIS FISCAL YEAR'S MONEY SOMEWHERE? YES.

SO THE MONEY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS YEAR.

AND IF WE HAD SOME CLOSEOUT BILL THAT WE PAID RIGHT AFTER JULY ONE, WE'LL PLAN FOR THAT BY CARRYING FORWARD SOME OF THE FY 26 MONEY TO COVER IT FROM.

AND THEN, UM, SOMEWHERE IN THE WRITE WRITE UP, IT SPOKE OF COST EFFECT, UH, COST EFFICIENCIES.

AND SO I'M WONDERING HOW YOU WOULD QUANTIFY WHAT COST EFFICIENCIES, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, OH, IT'LL COST US LESS TO DO IT NOW THAN IT WOULD LATER.

I, I'M HOPING THAT'S NOT THE COST EFFICIENCY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY COST EFFICIENCIES OF THESE ADDITIONS? BECAUSE THE, THIS IS KIND OF A, UM, A DUAL PROJECT THAT'S BEING, UM, TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS FOR TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

THEONA FIRE DISTRICT AND THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE BEING CREATED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WHILE, UM, IT WOULD SAVE US DOING IT, UM, AT THE SAME TIME OF THE SERONA FIRE DISTRICT, BECAUSE THEY'RE COLLAB, THEY'RE CALIBRATING BOTH OF THE EQUIPMENTS, BOTH OF THE DEPARTMENT'S EQUIPMENTS AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THERE'LL BE ONE RACK OR NUMEROUS RACKS AT EACH LOCATION SITE THAT WOULD, UM, HAVE BOTH OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND SEDONA FIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT DISTRICTS, UH, EQUIPMENT.

SO THIS SAVES, UM, US BOTH TO SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM DOING THIS SEPARATELY AND HAVING TO PAY TRON AND OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONTRACT TO CALIBRATE THIS EQUIPMENT, CREATE THE EQUIPMENT, BUILD IT, GO OUT TO THE SITES.

THEY'RE DOING BOTH OF 'EM AT THE SAME TIME.

IF I MAY, UM, SORRY, ERIN.

YEAH, JUST TO JUMP IN, PLEASE.

KEEP OLD EQUIPMENT RUNNING WHILE THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO SUPPORT THE NEW SYSTEM FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, COUNSEL, UH, MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT, OR SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT WE PAY THE FIRE DISTRICT TO MAINTAIN THIS SYSTEM FOR US.

SO WE DON'T DO THAT OURSELVES.

AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS I SEE IN THIS IS THAT, UH, THE SEDONA FIRE STAFF IS MAINTAINING ONE SYSTEM FOR BOTH OF US.

IF WE WERE STAYED ON OUR OLD SYSTEM AND DID NOT MOVE, THEN THEIR STAFF WOULD HAVE TO BE MANAGING TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. AND I'M SURE OUR COST WOULD INCREASE, UM, FOR OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO

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YEAH, I, I WASN'T THINKING OF COST EFFICIENCIES FOR THE INITIAL PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE SPEAKING TO IN YOUR WRITEUP, COST EFFICIENCIES FROM ADDING THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING THE MONEY FOR, NOT THE OVERALL PROJECT, NO, I THINK REALLY THE COST EFFICIENCY IS DOING IT NOW WHILE WE'RE IN, UM, COLLABORATION WITH SEDONA FIRE.

AND, AND AS WE KNOW, COSTS ARE ONLY INCREASING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE FURTHER OUT, AS, YOU KNOW, RATES JUST GO UP OR, UM, SO BY DOING THIS AT THIS TIME, WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH ANOTHER GROUP AND GET IT DONE ALL AT THE SAME TIME WITHOUT GOING OUT TO ANOTHER YEAR WHERE POTENTIALLY BIDS COULD COME IN, HIGHER EQUIPMENT CHANGES, SUCH AS THE FIRE CHIEF STATED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I HAVE ONE CARD.

UH, TIM.

OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'RE UNANIMOUS.

I DID HAVE A NUMBER OF REASONS IN MIND TO POINT OUT AS TO WHY YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T APPROVE THIS CONTRACT, BUT MY CASE HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE FOR ME EARLIER THIS EVENING.

YOU HEARD MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU JUST WHAT THESE BRUTAL, VICIOUS THUGS HAVE BEEN UP TO, AND YOU'RE NOW PROPOSING TO REWARD THEM BY GIVING THEM ANOTHER THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO BUY MORE TOYS TO ABUSE PEOPLE WITH.

THIS IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.

THE EXISTENCE OF A POLICE FORCE IS A CRIME AGAINST GOD AND A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

VIOLENCE IS EVIL, PERIOD.

ANY PERSON WHO ENGAGES IN VIOLENCE DECLARES VIOLENCE TO BE THEIR MORAL CODE AND DECLARES THEMSELVES TO BE EVIL.

COLLABORATION WITH EVIL IS LIKEWISE EVIL.

A VOTE TO ADVANCE THIS CONTRACT TONIGHT WOULD BE A VOTE FOR COLLABORATION WITH EVIL.

IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO VOTE IN THAT MANNER, THE COUNCIL WILL DEMONSTRATE EITHER THAT IT IS UNAWARE OF THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, OR IT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL.

MAYOR, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO MOTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M READY FOR A MOTION.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE LINKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SEDONA AND TRON, INC.

IN THE AMOUNT OF 755,510 AND 26 CENTS FOR A TOTAL COMPENSATION TO THE CONTRACTOR NOT TO EXCEED ONE $1,863,097 AND 56 CENTS.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

NEXT ITEM IS

[9.e. AB 3133 Discussion/possible action regarding the future of the Historic Preservation Commission and review of 2025 Historic Preservation Commission accomplishments.]

AB 31 33.

DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND REVIEW OF 2025 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

NATE? HI.

HI, KATHY, ARE YOU COMING UP OR YOU'RE JUST HERE FOR MORAL SUPPORT? WE'RE MAKING COMMENTS.

IS DONE BY THE COMMISSION AND CERTIFICATES OF NO EFFECT, WHICH ARE DONE BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CHAIR AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU FILL OUT CARDS? OKAY, GOOD.

YOU HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN.

OKAY, NATE.

UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY ME.

GOOD, GOOD EVENING COUNT, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.

JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, IN JULY OF 2024, MAYOR PLU, WHO WAS THEN THE VICE MAYOR, HAD REQUESTED A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

THE COUNCIL HAD THAT DISCUSSION DISCUSSION IN OCTOBER OF 2024.

AND AT THE END OF THAT MEETING, COUNCIL AGREED BY CONSENSUS TO CONTINUE WITH, UM, A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION THROUGH 2025 AND REEVALUATE PRIOR TO THE HISTORIC MUSEUM CONTRACT RENEWAL, WHICH WILL HAPPEN, UM, AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

UM, IN JUNE OF 2023, THE CONTRACT, THE CITY ENTERED A CONTRACT WITH THE HISTORIC MUSEUM TO PERFORM MANY OF THE DUTIES THAT HPC HAD PERFORMED IN THE PAST.

AND SO HPC CURRENTLY THEIR MAIN, UM, DUTIES INCLUDE LANDMARKING HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UM, APPROVAL OF CERTIFICATES OF A, OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHICH

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SO TODAY'S MEETING IS JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THAT OCTOBER, 2024 MEETING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED US TO DO.

WE DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE FORGOT ABOUT YOU.

UM, AND JUST AS A SUMMARY, THIS IS ALL IN YOUR, IN THE AGENDA BILL, BUT IN THE PAST YEAR, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAS, UM, FILLED THE VACANT POSITIONS.

THEY ADOPTED A WORK PLAN.

THEY HAVE RECEIVED SOME, THE CLG TRAINING, WHICH IS THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT TRAINING.

UM, THEY REVIEWED AND APPROVED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE, SOME RENOVATIONS AT THE RANGER STATION BARN.

UM, WE DID A CERTIFICATE OF NO EFFECT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A STATUE AT THE JORDAN MUSEUM.

TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS ATTENDED THE, UM, STATE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE.

UM, THEY WEIGHED IN ON A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST REGARDING THE MEDU RIGBY HOUSE.

UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN, UM, WORKING ON HISTORIC SURVEYS OF BUILDINGS AND LOOKING THROUGH THE, UM, LANDMARK PROPERTIES AND KEEPING AN EYE ON THOSE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

I'M JOINED BY OUR HISTORIC RESERVATION COMMISSION CHAIRMAN, NATE MEYERS.

UM, AND YEAH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SEE IF YOU WANNA HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I MIGHT SAY THAT SINCE I KIND OF STARTED THIS , I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE STEPPED UP AND, UH, DID WE HAVE A FULL COMPLIMENT? WE EVEN JUST APPROVED A RE-UP LAST MEETING.

AND, UH, THE, UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, NATE, I THINK YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING.

I KNOW THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST GONNA COMMENT THAT, UH, I WOULD'VE WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN WITH THE COMMISSION.

UH, AND YOU NOW HAVE A PLAN.

YOU'RE ACTING ON THE PLAN AND MOVING FORWARD, SO THANK YOU.

'CAUSE WE WERE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE, I THINK, A YEAR AGO.

COMMISSIONER STUACK AND COMMISSIONER WOODS.

I, I DON'T WANNA DIG TOO DEEP INTO TO, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE COMMISSION BEFORE I GOT, UH, TO IT AND, AND ASCENDED TO THE CHAIR.

UM, I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE WE DO HAVE TWO OF OUR GREAT COMMISSIONERS HERE.

UH, I THINK THEY'RE STILL HERE.

UM, THEY'VE ADDED, THEY'RE THE TWO NEWEST COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'VE ADDED A TON OF EXPERIENCE.

UH, COMMISSIONER STUACK ACTUALLY, UH, STARTED THE HPC, UM, AND IS BACK ON.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER WOODS IS AN ARCHITECT.

UH, HIS FATHER WAS AN ARCHITECT IN TOWN.

UM, AND SO HE BRINGS A, JUST A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, WE'VE GOT A GREAT CREW NOW.

AND, AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE FINALLY STARTING TO, TO, UM, SEE THE, THE FRUITS OF THE, UM, TRUST YOU GUYS PUT IN US TO, TO TURN IT AROUND.

I DO HAVE TWO CARDS.

I CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM.

KAREN STOOP, FOLLOWED BY KATHY LEVIN.

GOOD EVENING.

OH GOD, TALK.

GOOD EVENING.

DISTINGUISHED, UH, MAYOR CITY COUNCILS.

UM, MY NAME IS KAREN STUPAC.

I'M A SEDONA CITY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONER.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION MOST ALL MY LIFE.

BUT SINCE MOVING TO SEDONA IN 1989 AND SEEING THINGS STARTING TO BE TORN DOWN, I BEGAN PUTTING TOGETHER OUR CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION ELEMENT ORDINANCE SURVEY OF HISTORIC SITES COMMISSION, AND FINALLY, OUR CITY BECOMING A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I SERVED ON THE FIRST COMMISSION FOR TWO TERMS, AND NOW AM BACK AGAIN.

I DO NOT WANNA SEE OUR HISTORY FORGOTTEN.

SEDONA IS A SPECIAL PLACE KNOWN INTERNATIONALLY, AND PEOPLE LOOK FOR INFORMATION ABOUT OUR CITY'S HISTORY AND VISITING OUR HERITAGE MUSEUM AND HISTORIC BUILDING SITES.

ONCE YOU HAVE TURNED YOUR BACK ON OUR PAST, YOU HAVE LOST IT FOREVER.

THEREBY MAKING SEDONA WHO IS UNIQUE BESIDES OUR GORGEOUS RED ROCK SCENERY IS OUR SENSE OF PLACE.

DON'T LET OUR HISTORY AND OUR SIGHTS BE FORGOTTEN.

FOR THE VITAL WORK OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

THANK YOU, KAREN.

KATHY.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNSELORS.

MY NAME'S KATHY LEVIN, AND I'M HERE TO ENDORSE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE SUPPORT

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I LIVED IN SEDONA FOR 49 YEARS.

MY GRANDPARENTS RETIRED HERE AND BUILT A HOME ON A DIRT STREET IN 1956, WHEN THE POPULATION WAS ABOUT 500.

WHEN WE VISITED AS A FAMILY FROM THE BIG CITY, MY BROTHER AND I SHOT BB GUNS AT EMPTY TIN CANS, MOUNTED ON THE FENCE POTS FOR THE FOREST SERVICE.

WE PLAYED COWBOYS AND INDIANS WITH THE MOVIE SETS UP AT THE POSSE GROUNDS, AND WE FLOATED DOWN OAK CREEK IN RUBBER INNER TUBES.

I SHARED THESE PERSONAL DETAILS ONLY TO ILLUSTRATE MY LONGSTANDING PASSION AND LOVE FOR MY COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE THAT IT'S OUR COMMON RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF CELEBRATING THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE BY PRESERVING HOMES, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, LANDSCAPES, AND PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HONORING AND SHARING THE EXTRAORDINARY STORIES OF THESE PLACES THROUGH THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION PROCESS THAT IS HPCS CHIEF RESPONSIBILITY.

THE COMMISSION'S CURRENT MEMBERS HAVE SERIOUS TALENT AND EXPERTISE.

ONE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM.

ANOTHER BOBBY, AN ARCHITECT JUST LIKE HIS WELL RESPECTED FATHER DON WOODS.

ONE MEMBER KAREN WAS APPOINTED OFF THE, TO THE VERY FIRST COMMISSION IN, UH, 1997.

AND ANOTHER IS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL OWNER, YOU KNOW, WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHO EXPRESSES HIS LOVE OF HISTORY AND OLD THINGS AT THE HOTEL AND AT HIS HOME.

AND ANOTHER, THE LAST OF THE FIVE IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

ALL OF SEDONAS, LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTIES TELL A STORY ABOUT DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME IN SEDONAS HISTORY.

AND SEVERAL PREDATE THE NAMING OF SEDONA IN 1902.

IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THE SEDONA WEST SUBDIVISION, THERE ARE THREE HISTORIC HOMES RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL FORM AND THE ARCHITECTS WHO DESIGN THEM.

THERE'S AN OLD CABIN ON THE CAMPUS OF THE SEDONA CHARTER SCHOOL.

OTHERS ARE LOCATED IN COLOR COVE AND THE RETAIL SECTOR OF UPTOWN THREE PROPERTIES ON SHIBLEY HILL ROAD.

AND SEVERAL ARE ON 89 A, THE VERY FIRST STORE KNOWN AS THE STORE.

YES, IT'S A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

THE HUMMINGBIRD WAS FORMERLY THE HUMMINGBIRD HOUSE, AND NOW THE BUSINESS NEMAR AND JUST DOWN THE ROAD, THE SEDONA RANGER STATION, THE CITY'S JEWEL OF A PARK THAT HAS THE OLDEST BUILDING IN SEDONA DATING TO 1970.

THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS I'VE JUST HIGHLIGHTED ARE JUST A SMALL SAMPLER AND AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE REASON IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE EXISTENCE OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION THAT CARRY OUT ITS MISSION.

REMARKABLY, SEDONA HAS FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

THEY ARE THE HEART STORE AND THE RANGER STATION, PLUS THE CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS AND JORDAN RANCH THAT USES ALL OF ITS BUILDINGS AS A SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM TO DESCRIBE THE LIFE OF EARLY ORCHARD GROWERS AND SO MUCH MORE.

SPEAKING OF THE CHAPEL, MARGUERITE BO DOWDY WAS THE BENEFACTOR FOR THE CHA CHAPEL'S CONSTRUCTION.

HER HOME.

DOODLEBUG RANCH IS ALSO A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.

LASTLY, HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS.

IT ENABLES OUR VISITORS TO ENGAGE IN HERITAGE TOURISM WHEN THEY VISIT AND SHOP AND RECREATE AT THESE SPECIAL PLACES.

IT IS ALSO A POINT OF IMMENSE PRIDE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS THEMSELVES TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THESE HISTORIC RESOURCES.

I END MY REMARKS BY RESTATING THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION SHOULD CONTINUE THE GOOD AND ESSENTIAL WORK OF SAVING AND SHARING SEDONAS UNIQUE HISTORY AND ITS RESOURCES.

I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT THAT IMPORTANT MANDATE.

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THANK YOU, KATHY.

AND I MIGHT ADD, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT YOU'RE ON THE BOARD OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

I AM.

OKAY, DEREK.

UM, IT PROBABLY WON'T SURPRISE ANYBODY THAT I FAVOR MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

I STILL HAVE MY NAME TAG.

UM, I PUT THIS ON WHEN I DON'T WANNA BE IDENTIFIED AS A CITY COUNCILOR.

UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AND I THINK WE ALL SHARE A DESIRE TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF SEDONA.

UM, SOME OF THAT'S OUTSIDE OUR CONTROL.

OBVIOUSLY, THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT IN, IN THE, YOU KNOW, PAST 30, 40, HOWEVER MANY YEARS NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE LIVED HERE.

BUT I, I THINK, RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF THE HISTORY IS IMPORTANT.

UM, HAVING THE COMMISSION, I THINK HELPS KEEP THE EYE ON THE BALL.

UH, IF WE WERE TO SHUT DOWN THE HPC AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE GOT SO MANY OTHER THINGS ON OUR PLATE, IT'LL GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, AND THEN PRETTY SOON IT'LL, IT'LL JUST FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND WANT TO, YOU KNOW, VIEW THIS AS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

UM, WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT.

WE WANT MORE PUBLIC INPUT.

WELL, HERE WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, ALREADY ENGAGED AND ACTIVELY ENGAGED, UH, DOING THINGS TO, YOU KNOW, TELLING US WHAT THEY THINK AND TELLING, YOU KNOW, AND TALKING TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO I, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAY, WELL, WE WANT MORE PUBLIC INPUT, BUT THEN ELIMINATE ONE OF THE MEANS BY WHICH THAT HAPPENS.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST POINT I MAKE IS JUST, IT'S A GOOD INTRODUCTION TO SERVICE WITH THE CITY.

I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I WOULD NOT HAVE GONE STRAIGHT ONTO PNZ.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, HPC WAS A GOOD PLACE TO START, AND IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING I WANNA DO? DO I MAYBE WANNA BE ON PNZ? DO I WANT TO BE ON COUNCIL OR, OR SOMETHING OF THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S A, IT'S SORT OF A GOOD WAY TO, YOU KNOW, EASE INTO THAT WITHOUT SUDDENLY BEING THROWN INTO THE FIRE.

SO, UH, I SUPPORT IT.

UM, I REALLY DON'T WANNA JUST KEEP DOING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST EXTEND IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF IN THE FUTURE SOMETHING FALLS APART AND WE DECIDE, WE CAN REVISIT IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AX HANGING OVER THEIR HEAD.

SO I'D SAY WE JUST KEEP THE COMMISSION AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO, I THINK WE TAKE NON-ACTION, WHICH IS JUST TO CONTINUE THE COMMISSION.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD NEED A, A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF IT NOT, I'M LOOKING TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR SOME DIRECT OR THE ATTORNEY JUST DIRECTION ON THAT.

WELL, THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO WAS, OKAY, LET'S GIVE HIM A YEAR TO DO A WORK PLAN AND MAKE SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.

AND WE'LL DECIDE AT THAT TIME IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE AS IS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS A MOTION OR NOT.

I'LL LOOK TO KURT MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NEED TO TAKE ANY MOTION.

IF YOU WANNA JUST CONTINUE IT, UM, WITHOUT, UM, ANY MOTION, THEN THE ORDINANCE WILL EXIST.

HPC WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST.

NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.

BUT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL IF WE WOULD GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION THOUGH, AS WELL, OF, TO THE COMPLETION OF THE 2026 HISTORIC SURVEY AND REPORT THAT BACK.

I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT WE'RE MAKE GIVING DIRECTION FOR THAT.

UM, YEAH, SO ONE THING THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST IS THAT EARLIER TONIGHT YOU DID APPROVE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT.

UM, THAT WE'LL DOUBLE OUR SORT.

WE COULDN'T COUNT THAT AS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT UNTIL YOU APPROVED IT.

SO, .

UM, BUT YEAH, SO WITH THAT, WE, YOU KNOW, WHICH MATCHES THE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY HAD IN THE BUDGET.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A MORE ROBUST, UM, HISTORIC UP UPDATE TO OUR HISTORIC SURVEY.

UM, TONY IS WORKING ON THE RFP TO GET THAT OUT.

AND SO WE'LL BEGIN.

THAT'S KIND OF THE NEXT MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU GUYS UPDATED ON THAT.

CAN I WONDER RIGHT NOW, CAN I SAY ONE THING? SURE.

MIC, MIC, MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

IT DIDN'T GET PUT ON THE LIST.

WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR A HISTORIC LANDMARK PROPERTY IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW, SO WE GOT ONE.

EXCELLENT.

WE'LL BE ANXIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

GOOD LUCK.

THANK

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YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AB 33 13, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION.

OKAY, LAUREN

[9.f. AB 3313 Discussion/possible direction/action regarding adoption of City of Sedona Legislative Agenda, City Council Protocols & Guidelines for Legislative Affairs as part of the Council Rules of Procedure and Policies, proposed State legislation, short-term rental legislation, lobbying efforts, and State budget and their potential impact on the City of Sedona.]

DIRECTION ACTION.

REGARDING ADOPTION OF CITY OF SEDONA LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS, GUIDELINES FOR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AS PART OF THE COUNCIL, RULES OF PROCEDURE AND POLICIES, PROPOSED STATE LEGISLATION, SHORT TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION, LOBBYING EFFORTS AND STATE BUDGET, AND THEIR POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY OF SEDONA.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA THROW IN? YEAH, THAT WAS ALL ENCOMPASSING.

SO GOOD EVENING.

UM, I HAVE TWO THINGS TO COVER TONIGHT.

TWO MAIN TOPICS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS JUST, UH, THE UPDATE TO OUR, UM, PRIORITIES AND PROCEDURES.

YOU HEARD THESE FROM KATHY AT YOUR RETREAT A FEW WEEKS AGO.

YOU GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK AND I'M HERE TO JUST GO OVER THOSE CHANGES, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THEM.

I'D LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO SIGN OFF ON THAT.

UM, AND THEN I CAN GO INTO JUST THE, THE REGULAR UPDATES SINCE, UM, MAYOR, YOU KINDA STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER, BUT, OH, I'M SORRY.

NO, I'M KIDDING.

UH, YOU CAN REPEAT IT.

UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT YESTERDAY AND, UM, SOME OF THE BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED ALREADY.

SO WITH THAT, YOU GOT THIS IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, I KEPT IT AS A RED LINE, UM, IN YOUR PACKET SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE CHANGES THAT I WAS MAKING.

I'M GONNA GO OVER THIS QUICKLY SINCE YOU GUYS ALL SAW THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO.

WE DON'T NEED TO BELABOR ANYTHING.

UM, THIS IS JUST OUR, UM, PRIORITIES.

UH, AND AS KATHY SAID A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THIS IS JUST INTENDED, UM, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TIME, UM, WE CAN REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, IN, I SHOULD GO BACK WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO PUT THINGS ON A COUNCIL AGENDA BECAUSE THINGS ARE MOVING QUICKLY THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.

KATHY AND I HAVE A GUIDING DOCUMENT IN WHICH WE COULD, UM, MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN, UM, INFORM YOU ABOUT IT, UM, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KATHY, YOU'RE REFERRING TO KATHY SENSEMAN.

SORRY.

COUNSELOR KINSELLA AND KATHY SENSEMAN.

JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

UM, SO COUNSELOR KINSELLA, THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD ASKED FOR.

UM, YOU WANTED A LITTLE BIT STRONGER LANGUAGE IN THAT BULLET B, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE CHANGED IT.

UM, AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGES, UM, IN THIS PRESENTATION.

SO OPPOSE ANY BILLS THAT WEAKEN THE CITY'S LOCAL ZONING AND LAND USE AUTHORITIES OR WEAKEN NEIGHBORING RESIDENT AND PROPERTY OWNER PARTICIPATION AND RE REZONING DECISIONS.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME.

UM, AND SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT WAS UNDER THE SECTION OF DEFEND LOCAL AUTHORITY UNDER THE SECOND SECTION, WHICH IS PROTECT CITY FUNDING.

UM, WE ADDED, UM, BULLET C, WHICH WAS TO OPPOSE ANY LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REDUCE THE ABILITY FOR CITIES TO RECEIVE USER FEE FUNDS FROM AVS.

I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THE INVEST IN LOCAL ECONOMIES AN INFRASTRUCTURE SECTION, WE ADDED BULLET D, WHICH WAS TO SUPPORT FUNDING FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF FEDERAL SLASH STATE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, INCLUDING PER AND GOOD LUCK.

YEP.

WHATEVER ROXANE WOULD SAY SUBSTANCES, PAS REGULATIONS.

AND THEN IN THE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT SECTION, WE ADDED B AND C, WHICH IS TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT PROTECTS PUBLIC ASSETS, INCLUDING LAWS TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY ON THOSE PUBLIC LANDS, AND THEN TO OPPOSE INCREASED WEIGHTS OF OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES.

I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD ASKED FOR.

UM, YOU ALL WANTED A SECTION ADDED THAT WAS PROTECT ELECTION LAWS.

UM, THAT'S TO DEFEND ELECT ANY DEFEND AGAINST ELECTION LAW, CHANGES THAT PREVENT CITIZENS FROM EXERCISING THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE.

AND THEN I GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, UM, WITH BULLET A OPPOSED LEGISLATION THAT CREATES ANY BARRIERS FOR SEDONA CITIZENS TO EASILY VOTE, INCLUDING BY MAIL AND OR TO REGISTER TO VOTE.

I THINK THAT'S IT ON, YEAH, THESE, DID I GET THIS RIGHT? DID I HEAR YOU ALL RIGHT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ME TO ADD? ALYSSA? UM, I WAS NOT AS SPECIFIC AS SAYING THE INCREASED WEIGHTS ON OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES BECAUSE THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY BRING INTO, UM, INTO BEING THAT RE REFERS TO OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES, BUT ACTUALLY COULD END UP, WHICH CAN BE THINGS LIKE ALLOWING, UH, FLASHING LIGHTS ON THE BACK, UM, OF AN OHEB VEHICLE.

THERE.

THERE'S

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HELMET LAWS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TRY TO PUT THOSE, SOME OF THOSE LIKE UNDER PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, OR IF, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE THERE'S A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WHERE GSRC IS TRYING TO REWORD, UM, SOME OF THE LEGISLATION THAT ALREADY EXISTS, UM, THAT SETS UP FOR CONFLICTS AROUND THINGS LIKE, UM, UNDER THE AGE OF 18 WEARING A HELMET.

UM, ONE LAW SAYS YES, THE OTHER LAW IS NOT REALLY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO TRY AND INCLUDE.

'CAUSE THAT'S ABOUT THOSE VEHICLES BEING SAFE ON OUR ROADS AS WELL AS ON PUBLIC LANDS.

UM, THE, THE INCREASED WEIGHT FOR OHV IS MORE ABOUT THE PUBLIC LANDS, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE DESTRUCTIVE.

UM, HEAVIER VEHICLES ARE JUST MORE DESTRUCTIVE ON THE PUBLIC LANDS.

SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT BROADER IN WHAT I HAD TO SAY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S JUST, WE CAN'T KNOW WHAT WILL AND WILL NOT HAPPEN WHEN THERE'S A HUGE LOBBY LIKE POLARIS, UM, AT PLAY IN THE LEGISLATURE.

DO YOU HAVE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? LIKE WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO, I DON'T WANT, I COULD RECOMMEND LANGUAGE.

SEE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE KATHY FOR .

COUNSELOR KINSELLA.

YEAH, SORRY.

COUNSELOR KINSELLA.

UM, IF YOU, UH, JUST REARRANGE THAT AND PUT SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT PROTECTS PUBLIC ASSETS, INCLUDING OPPOSING INCREASED WEIGHTS OF OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES IN THAT SECTION, AND LEFT, UH, LAWS TO PROTECT SUPPORT LAWS TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AS A DE BULLET POINT.

I THINK IT FLOWS MORE IN LINE OF, IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE IN THE GREATER SECTION OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

DO YOU THINK THAT THAT MIGHT SUFFICE? YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING I'M ABSTAINING FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH OHVS.

FAIR ENOUGH.

YES, I UNDERSTAND.

UM, AND IF YOU WANTED TO AN, UH, UH, PUT A SECOND EXAMPLE UNDER THE PROTECT PUBLIC ASSETS, THE INCREASED WEIGHTS OR, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY TALKS ABOUT THE FLASHING LIGHTS.

IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A SECOND EXAMPLE UP THERE AS EXAMPLES, IT MIGHT HELP BROADEN THAT CATEGORY.

IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE PUBLIC LANDS THOUGH, AS WELL.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF LAWS AROUND OHVS THAT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE ROADS.

UM, SO IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY ON OUR ROADS AS WELL AS ON PUBLIC LANDS.

THE HEAVY VIEW, HEAVIER VEHICLES TECHNICALLY MAY NOT IMPACT OUR ROADS ANYMORE THAN ANY OTHER HEAVIER VEHICLE.

HOWEVER, YOU HAVE A HEAVIER VEHICLE BUT NO HELMETS ON, ON CHILDREN.

THAT COULD BE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

THAT'S WHY I AM SUGGESTING SEPARATING PUBLIC SAFETY FROM PROTECTION OF PUBLIC ASSETS BECAUSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

IF YOU MOVE THAT, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, LAUREN? WITH THAT, MOVING THAT AROUND.

I I'M JUST SAYING PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT JUST OUR YES.

OUR ROADS.

IT'S BOTH OUR ROADS AND PUBLIC LANDS.

'CAUSE THOSE ROADS ARE NOT NORMALLY PAVED.

UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA GET A DIFFERENT IMPACT AROUND THEM.

THEY COULD ALSO DO THINGS LIKE CHANGE HOW LOUD THEY CAN BE, FOR INSTANCE.

UM, AND WE KNOW THEY'RE ALREADY AT 96 ACCESSIBLES, WHICH IS BEYOND HEALTH TOLERANCES FOR MOST HUMANS.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT WORDING, BUT I SEE, I SEE OUR LAWYER LIKE MAKING NOTES.

SO MAY PERHAPS HE COULD HELP.

COULD WE JUST MAYBE SAY A OPPOSED EXPANDED USE OR EXPANDED USE OF OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES OR, BUT EXPANDED USE IMPLIES TO ME THAT THEY CAN GO PLACES THEY CAN'T GO TODAY AS OPPOSED TO USE, AND THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO ON THE ENVIRONMENT IS ABOUT PROTECTING PUBLIC LANDS.

BUT THE THINGS I ALSO WORRY ABOUT, LIKE THE HELMET LAWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT ABOUT PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S LIKE IT'S IN THE WRONG SECTION.

UM, AND WE HAVE A HUGE LOBBY ORGANIZATION OR TWO, UM, THAT ARE ALSO PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OH, FEES IN OUR STATE.

UM, YOU WANT A SEPARATE SECTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.

WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE TITLE.

THE TITLE'S WRONG.

THE TITLE IS PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THIS, THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT SEEING THE FINAL WORDING.

IT SOUNDS FINE TO ME.

UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FINAL WORDING.

I THINK YOU GET THE GIST OF THE CONCERNS AROUND LAWS THAT COULD BE CHANGED AROUND OHVS IN, UM, IN OUR STATE WHERE WE HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF LEGISLATURE, LEGISL LEGISLATORS WHO ARE, UM, OHV USERS.

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SO KURT, WILL I BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED TONIGHT ON THE CONDITION THAT WELL, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT 'CAUSE THE LEGISLATURE STARTED, WE HAVE TO GET THIS APPROVED AND THEN PRESENT TO US IN TWO WEEKS.

MAYBE THE CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE.

BUT IS IT CONDITION? IS IT, IS IT APPROVED? YOU JUST BE SUBJECT TO SOMEONE'S FINAL APPROVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, OR YOURSELF? IF COUNSEL WANTS TO DELEGATE THAT, WELL, MELISSA WANTS TO REVIEW IT.

WELL, I CAN REVIEW IT AND THEN, THEN DELEGATE AUTHORITY, FINAL AUTHORITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO OUR ATTORNEY FOR INSTANCE.

YOU KNOW, ALL I WANNA DO IS JUST SAY WHETHER OR NOT ANYTHING IS MISSING AND THE LANGUAGE IS NOT AS IMPORTANT TO ME AS THE CONTEXT OF THAT LANGUAGE.

SO I'M HAPPY TO DELEGATE AUTHORITY.

WE MONITOR INCREASE WEIGHTS, EXPANDED USE AND OTHER HEALTH SAFETY CONCERNS WITH OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MONITOR IS WHETHER OR NOT WE AS A CITY WANNA TAKE A STAND.

SO, SO IF IF IT'S MOVING FAST, SOMETHING'S MOVING FASTER THERE, BUT WE HAVE NO STAND IN THE DOCUMENTATIONS, THEN THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW POSE, INCREASE RATES, INCREASE WEIGHTS, EXPANDED USE OR OTHER HEALTH SAFETY CONCERNS OF EXPANDING YEAH.

PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS.

YEAH, THAT THAT'S FINE.

IT'S, THAT'S REALLY BROAD.

SO, BUT THEN YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE TITLE.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE PEOPLE IN IT .

SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE KURT'S LAST STATEMENT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU WERE GOING FOR? YEAH, BECAUSE I, I THINK IT GIVES DIRECTION AND IT'S ALSO BROAD ENOUGH FOR YOU OR WHOMEVER TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT FITS THAT CRITERION, WHICH IS REALLY ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC WITH THE WEIGHTS AND I WANTED IT BROADER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT THAT HAPPENING, UM, ON OUR ROADS HERE OR IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

GOT IT.

IN THAT INSTANCE, UM, WITH ALL THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE GUIDELINES.

SO LET'S SEE, WHAT CHANGES DID WE MAKE THERE? SO AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO MAYBE GIVE JUST A, A FEW, UM, BUMPERS FOR US IN TERMS OF, UM, GUIDELINES MOVING FORWARD.

SO THIS IS ALL THE SAME AS YOU SAW BEFORE.

UM, THIS IS JUST OUTLINING THE USE OF THE PRIORITIES DOCUMENT THAT WE JUST WENT OVER IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES.

UM, THE SECTION THAT I ADDED WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UH, KURT HAD BROUGHT UP, WHICH WAS THAT WHEN WE ARE ASKED FOR FEEDBACK ON BILLS OR COMMENTS ON GENERAL ISSUES THAT STAFF MAY DO.

SO WITH THESE REQUESTS TO BE SHARED WITH CITY COUNCIL, EITHER VIA EMAIL OR AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING DURING THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE AGENDA ITEM SHOULD BE RIGHT NOW.

UM, STAFF COMMENTS DO NOT INDICATE SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THE BILL BY THE CITY.

UH, I THINK THAT'S ANY REACTION TO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S GOOD WITH THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PIVOT OVER TO THE GENERAL UPDATE.

SO DO YOU WANNA DO THE ACTION ON THIS FIRST? YEAH, SURE.

BEFORE YOU GO YEAH.

OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THIS? DO LET ME JUST GO BACK HERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO.

OH, SO THERE IS A MOTION? NO.

OH, YES, TIM, SORRY.

OPENING THE PUBLIC FORUM.

YOU WANNA CALL HIM? NO, I DO.

OH YEAH, THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT.

MY NAME IS TIM PERRY AND I LIVE IN SEDONA WITH REGARD TO THIS YEAR'S LOBBYING PRIORITIES.

FIRST, THE FIRST THING I REALLY WANNA GET OUT THERE IS JUST MY HOPE THAT, UH, KATHY SENSEMAN WILL BE CALLED ORWELLIAN BY LEGISLATIVE STAFF AGAIN THIS YEAR.

THAT WAS VERY ENTERTAINING AND VERY WELL DESERVED.

I HOPE YOU GUYS ALL FELT SO TOO.

UM, MOVING ON, I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WERE ALL SMOKING WHEN YOU PUT ON THERE.

YOU WANT TO GET, UH, SB 1487 REPEALED AS MANY TIMES AS THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO USE IT AGAINST YOU GUYS.

YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA REPEAL IT AND WHAT ELSE?

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AS SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE WORKING VERY HARD THIS YEAR TO GET HOME RULE DEFEATED WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT GETTING THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT RAISED DOES NOT REPRESENT OUR PRIORITIES FOR THIS CITY.

THE REAL KICKER I WANTED TO ADDRESS THOUGH, WAS SOMETHING THAT KATHY ENSON SAID LAST MONTH DURING THE RETREAT.

I BELIEVE SHE BROUGHT UP THE POSSIBILITY OF A LEGISLATIVE REFERRAL OF A REPEAL OF THE FOOD TAX.

NOW, I SEEM TO RECALL THAT AT LEAST TWO PREVIOUS YEARS, THE SEDONA CITY COUNCIL HAS OPPOSED A REPEAL OF THE FOOD TAX.

IT'S ALWAYS VERY INTERESTING WHEN MILLIONAIRES OPPOSE A MEASURE THAT WOULD SAVE THE REGULAR GUY A FEW CENTS ON GROCERIES.

IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THAT CASE OF, UH, SOME WELL-KNOWN INVESTORS HERE IN TOWN WHO BOUGHT A NEW BUILDING AND THE FIRST THING THEY DID WAS PULL THE FREE WASHING MACHINE OUT OF THE LAUNDRY ROOM SO THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO USE THE PAID ONE.

I GUESS WHEN YOU GOT NINE FIGURES IN THE BANK, YOU REALLY GOTTA COUNT THOSE QUARTERS.

AND I ALSO KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE LEAGUE REALLY DOESN'T WANNA SEE GO THROUGH BECAUSE CITIES AND TOWNS GOT A LOT OF REVENUE FROM THIS.

WELL, YOU GUYS DON'T WORK FOR THE LEAGUE, YOU WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF SEDONA.

OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH TO COVER AT THIS POINT EXCEPT, UH, DULY NOTING MELISSA DUNN'S ONGOING FANTASY THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO DAMAGE DIRT BY DRIVING ON IT.

AND THE THE WELFARE OF THE DIRT SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED OVER HUMAN HAPPINESS.

ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW.

READY FOR A MOTION? YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE SALES TAX DOES NOT APPLY TO GROCERIES, CORRECT? APPLIES TO PREPARE FOODS.

THE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A A, UM, YES, A GROCERY TAX.

SO YOU EAT AT A RESTAURANT, YOU PAY A TAX, RIGHT? CORRECT.

BUT NOT ON GROCERIES.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

AND THEN, UM, JUST A REQUEST OF KATHY, YOUR REQUEST OF THE REST OF COUNCIL, THE ADDITION OF THE OOHB STUFF TO THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

I'VE JUST ASKED THAT, THAT BE STRIPPED OUT SO THAT I COULD VOTE ON THE REMAINDER OF THE PRIORITIES AND THEN Y'ALL COULD VOTE ON THE ADDITION OF THE OHB.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? SO RECUSE YES TO RECUSE, I HAVE TO RECUSE AS TO THE OHB.

SO IF YOU HAD TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS, ONE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, MINUS THAT, AND THEN A SEPARATE MOTION TO ADD THAT.

OTHERWISE I'M GONNA HAVE TO ABSTAIN AS TO THE ENTIRE VOTE ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S, YOU RECALL HOW YOU WANNA DO THAT? DO YOU WANNA MAKE THEM TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? UH, OR MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU CAN DO AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU CAN DO, UH, LET ME LOOK AT THIS.

YEAH, IF DEREK, IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, UH, JUST TO THE WELL, I KNOW THAT WON'T WORK.

NEVERMIND.

WHAT? IT JUST, YOU RECUSE YOURSELF.

I'LL JUST RECUSE.

I'LL JUST STAY OUT.

I'M GONNA LET Y'ALL VOTE.

I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA STAY OUT OF THIS VOTE.

SO, OKAY.

KURT, DO I NEED TO LEAVE THE DAUS FOR THE VOTE OR CAN I SIT HERE AND WATCH? YES.

UH, THE, IF YOU'RE GONNA ABSTAIN THE RULES WOULD HAVE YOU LEAVE THE DAUS.

ALRIGHT, GOT IT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE AND POLICIES BY ADOPTING THE CITY OF SEDONA LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, THE CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES FOR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AS PART OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE AND POLICIES AS APPENDIX B AS AMENDED SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? A AYE.

ONE.

ABSTENTION.

A B.

OH, UM, DID YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A GENERAL UPDATE OR OH, SURE.

GO RIGHT IN.

SO FAR, ABOUT 500 BILLS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED WITH ABOUT 2000 IN TOTAL.

IT WON'T TAKE LONG.

JUST WANNA KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED.

UM, SO LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, WE DID HAVE THE OPENING DAY AT THE LEGISLATOR YESTERDAY.

UM, THE MAYOR AND I BOTH ATTENDED WITH KATHY CINON, OUR LOBBYIST, UM, WITH, LIKE YOU SAID, BEING HOSTED BY REPRESENTATIVE BLISS.

WE ALSO VISITED WITH, UM, REPRESENTATIVE WEN AND SENATOR, SENATOR FINCHEM.

THE GOVERNOR DELIVERED HER STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS AMONGST MANY OTHER THINGS.

SHE DID MENTION SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

UH, SHE SAID, I AM PROPOSING A NIGHTLY FEE ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL STAYS TO FUEL THE ARIZONA AFFORDABILITY FUND BY ASKING VACATIONERS TO KICK IN $3 AND 50 CENTS LESS THAN A CUP OF CUP OF COFFEE.

WE CAN DELIVER MAJOR CHANGE FOR THE WORKING PEOPLE IN OUR STATE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET BY.

SO THIS DOESN'T REALLY HELP US WITH ANY OF THE MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUES, BUT INTERESTING NONETHELESS.

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EXPECTED OF NOTE ARE SENATE BILL SEVEN, SENATE BILL 10 SET 10 76.

THIS AUTHORIZES A MUNICIPALITY WITH A POPULATION OF LESS THAN 70,000 PEOPLE TO SET A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VACATION RENTAL OR SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMITS OR LICENSES WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY.

AND TO SET A MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN SUCH RENTALS.

THIS IS SPONSORED BY SENATOR FINCHEM.

UM, REPRESENTATIVE BLISS WILL ALSO BE RUNNING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL BILL WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES THAT IS SIMILAR TO THIS, UM, BUT IT DOES NOT FOCUS ON RURAL AZ AS 10 76 DOES.

I THINK SHE DROPPED THAT TONIGHT.

I I WASN'T ABLE TO CHECK IT BEFORE, BUT THAT WAS THE RUMOR WAS THAT SHE WAS GONNA DROP THAT TONIGHT.

THEN THERE'S HOUSE BILL 2201.

THIS IS SPONSORED BY REPRESENTATIVE BLISS.

IT APPROPRIATES 8 MILLION ABOUT FROM THE STATE GENERAL FUND TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE CITY OF SEDONA FOR CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ON 89 A FOREST ROAD AND RANGER ROAD.

THERE'S, UM, ONE FROM REPRESENTATIVE BLACKMAN WHO IS WORKING WITH NACO TO RUN A SIMILAR BILL FOR THE SAME PROJECT.

UM, KATHY MADE, KATHY SENSEMAN MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, THERE IS NO OR VERY LIMITED STATE REVENUES, SO THIS IS UNLIKELY TO BE FUNDED.

BOTH OF THOSE, BOTH, BOTH OF THESE.

BUT IT'S GOOD TO GET IT IN THE MIX AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

SO DON'T GET OUR HOPES UP IS HOW SHE PHRASED THAT.

UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE STATE BOARD OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, TO TRY AND SECURE FUNDING THROUGH THAT AVENUE AS WELL.

SO JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING IT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES.

UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH A PR FIRM AS YOU ALL KNOW, TO HELP WITH THE STORIES OF HOW SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE IMPACTING COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE IN GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THE LEAGUE AND THEIR COMMUNICATIONS FIRM THAT THEY'VE HIRED AS THEY WORK WITH BLISS ON HER SHORT-TERM RENTAL BILL.

AND THEN HAPPENING THIS WEEK, THE SENATE AND HOUSE ARE LOOKING TO PASS BILLS THAT ARE IDENTICAL AND SUPPORT THE FEDERAL TAX CUTS.

THIS WOULD FAST TRACK THESE BILLS AND BE IN FRONT OF THE GOVERNOR OR AS EARLY AS THE END OF THE WEEK.

UM, THE GOVERNOR HAS SAID THAT SHE SUPPORTS SOME OF THE FEDERAL TAX CONFORMITY, BUT NOT ALL OF IT.

SO BECAUSE OF THIS WE THINK THAT SHE MAY VETO THESE BILLS AND THAT THEN THEY'LL GET INTO A GIVE AND TAKE WITH THE GOAL OF SIGNING A BILL BY THE END OF THE MONTH TO INFORM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR WHAT THE RULES WILL BE FOR TAX SEASON.

SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT.

BLESS YOU.

UM, SOME PEOPLE SAY IF YOU FILE YOUR TAXES EARLY, WAIT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE CHANGES TO THE TAX CODE.

MAY HAVE TO REFILE.

UM, AS IT SAYS ON THIS SLIDE ABOUT STAFF COMMENTS, UM, KATHY SENSEMAN HAS BEEN SENDING ME, UM, BILLS ALL WEEK LONG, UH, TO TRY AND GET STAFF COMMENTS.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF ROUND THOSE UP AND UM, SEND YOU ALL AN EMAIL THAT JUST KEEPS YOU INFORMED OF UM, THESE ARE THE BILLS THAT, UH, WE'VE EITHER, UH, I'LL PROBABLY JUST SEND THEM, SEND YOU THE ONES THAT WE DECIDED TO ACTUALLY MAKE A COMMENT ON.

SO KEEP YOUR EYES OUT FOR THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? HAPPY TO HAVE YOU IN THIS ROLE, LAUREN.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AT THE LEGISLATURE YESTERDAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS LAUREN.

ONE I THINK I RESOLVE THOUGH I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO UH, WATCH P 2 0 5 2, WHICH IS A WATER BILL.

IT'S GOT A STATEMENT IN THERE ABOUT CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES ACHIEVING A WATER LOSS TARGET IN WATER DELIVERY SYSTEMS. IT INCLUDES PRIVATE ENTITIES.

I NOW THINK THAT THAT'S AN A MA ONLY BILL.

I WOULD LIKE SOME CONFIRMATION OF THAT.

IF IT'S NOT AN A MA ONLY BILL THEN IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THE WATER LOSS TARGET IS ACTUALLY 8% LOSS.

WHEN ARIZONA WATER WAS HERE WITH US RECENTLY, THEY'RE FORECASTING GETTING DOWN TO A 10% LOSS IN THEIR SYSTEM.

SO IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR ARIZONA.

WATER MIGHT BE A GOOD CHALLENGE.

I DON'T KNOW.

MIGHT NOT APPLY TO US ALTOGETHER.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT THOUGH BEFORE IT GETS TOO FAR.

AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO ASK ABOUT REPRESENTATIVE BLISS'S BILL ABOUT FIXING THE THING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PLANS AND VOTING AND 10 YEARS AND THAT LANGUAGE IN HER BILL AS I SAW IT LAST, IT DIDN'T HELP US ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'RE NOW MORE THAN ONE YEAR PAST THE LOSS OF OUR, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR LAST COMMUNITY PLAN WAS NOT A VOTE OF OUR PEOPLE.

SO ARE WE TRYING TO WORK WITH HER TO GET THAT TO APPLY TO A FUTURE SEDONA SITUATION? YES.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WATCHING.

I WILL ASK ABOUT THAT STIPULATION THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND UM, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

I MIGHT WANNA ADD THAT WE NOW HAVE ANOTHER CITY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

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SAN TAN VALLEY IS THE LATEST CITY.

THEY JUST INCORPORATED AND WERE APPROVED.

WHAT IS THEIR, DO YOU KNOW THEIR POPULATION ABOUT ROUGHLY? I'LL TAKE THAT AS ENOUGH.

50,000? UM, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

NO I DON'T KNOW THEIR POPULATION.

JUST CURIOUS.

BUT THERE ARE FUTURE CITIES, OSA, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

BELMONT AND BELMONT.

TWO FUTURE CITIES.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM SIZE TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING.

LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I'LL JUST GET IT HERE.

AB 30 66.

[9.g. AB 3066 Discussion/possible action regarding future meeting/agenda items.]

DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ITEMS MELISSA? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS I GUESS SET IN PASSING BY, UM, COUNCILOR FURMAN SOME WHILE AGO.

BUT GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN IN THE PRESS LATELY, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST BRING IT UP FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD DISCUSS A OFFICIAL POSITION ON THE USE OF LAND FOR PROJECTS THAT CONSUME AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF ENERGY OR WATER RESOURCES.

AKA DATA CENTERS.

WELL THAT WOULD BE ONE, BUT THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS.

AND IN THE FUTURE THERE MIGHT BE EVEN OTHERS.

SO IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.

I SAW ONE PERSON NODDING HIS HEAD, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE LEAGUE.

I DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS, BUT ON FRIDAY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WAS SCHEDULED TO DISCUSS DATA CENTERS AND IT HAS COME UP ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION ABOUT, AND THE GOVERNOR SAID IT IN HER STATE OF THE STATE ABOUT THERE'S TAX INCENTIVES FOR DATA CENTERS THAT SHE WANTS TO CHANGE.

AND THAT WAS ONE WHERE SHE DIDN'T GET TOO MANY NEGATIVE RESPONSES.

SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I'M JUST GOING TO PUT A BILL IN OR TRY TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT SITUATION.

SO THE LEAGUE IS ACTIVE.

I DON'T KNOW, KURT, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING MORE.

NO.

AND AS THIS IS AN AGENDAS FOR DISCUSSION, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL.

DOES ANYBODY WANNA I DON'T, I I, IT'S AN INTERESTING TOPIC THAT WE SHOULD KEEP ON OUR RADAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SCHEDULED NOW.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE SINCE EMER INFORMATION WILL BE EMERGING POTENTIALLY IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.

CHARLOTTE, I DIDN'T HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT YOUR COMMENT.

I HAD A DIFFERENT COMMENT.

SO LET'S WAIT TILL WE YEAH, PETE, UH, I THINK GIVEN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AS WELL, THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE A WEIGHT POSITION.

THAT WE MAYBE START THINKING ABOUT IT AND IT MAY GET ALL OBVIATED BY CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, BUT LET'S NOT BE NEUTRAL ABOUT IT.

SO I SUPPORT IT.

I THINK IT'S OKAY TO SOMETIMES BE IN THE FOREFRONT OF THINGS.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH UH, ND IT UH, IN THE FUTURE WE TALK REGULARLY ABOUT WANTING TO AVOID UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

SO, OKAY.

SO THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE HAVE THREE SO WE'RE GOOD.

YEP, WE DO.

UM, CAN I JUST CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THOUGH, , WHICH IS TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR SPECIFIC CODE LANGUAGE THAT, UM, GOVERNS THIS, RIGHT? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LEGISLATION? NO, THE WHOLE, I SAY THE WHOLE THING.

SURE.

, I'M SORRY.

I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE VAGUE.

I THINK WHOEVER MADE THE PROPOSAL, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, IF WE'RE DOING A WORK SESSION SESSION FOR STAFF, THAT'S LIKE A STUDY SESSION THAT EDUCATES YOU ON THE TOPIC OR DO YOU WANT US TO ACTUALLY BRING FORTH AS PART OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE SOME SPECIAL PIECE AROUND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES? WELL, WE'RE NOT A, I WAS GONNA, SO IT'S AN INTRODUCTORY THING ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND THEN YOU CAN GIVE US FURTHER DIRECTION IF YOU WANT SOMETHING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M GONNA ASK MY STAFF TO PREPARE

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FOR A FUTURE MEETING.

CAN I ASK AND NOW WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT COUNCILOR DUNN CAN, CAN CLARIFY UH, 'CAUSE IT WAS HER PROPOSED FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WHAT SHE WAS EXPECTING.

SO WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY EXPECTING WAS NOT A LOT OF WORK FROM STAFF.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO PROVIDE US OR THE AUDIENCE IN GENERAL, UM, WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS THAT ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THESE LARGE PROJECTS THAT USE INORDINATE AMOUNT OF ENERGY, UM, THE COST TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE AROUND THEM, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.

THAT IDEA FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT BASED ON THAT INFORMATION WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN DISCUSS HOW WE FEEL OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD RESPOND AND HOW WE FEEL.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD REGARDING WHATEVER THAT INFORMATION IS.

UM, SO IF YOU WANNA CALL THAT AN EDUCATION SESSION, THAT'S FINE.

I THINK THAT THE MATERIALS OR EDUCATIONAL, BUT I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT A POSITION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT DOES.

I CAN TELL YOU UNDER AN AGENDIZED ITEM CALLED REPORTS THAT THE, THIS CAME UP AT GAMMA, WHICH IS THE GREATER, UH, ASSOCIATION, GREATER ARIZONA MAYOR'S ASSOCIATION AND SOME COMMUNITY LOCAL COMMUNITIES NEIGHBORING US ARE CHANGING THEIR LDC TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED.

SO I WOULD ADD THAT, WELL THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE OUTCOMES OF HAVING THE DISCUSSION IS THAT WE WOULD THEN DIRECT STAFF TO DO SOMETHING, UM, ON OUR BEHALF, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

AM I KEEPING THAT VAGUE ENOUGH? THIS IS JUST FOR INTRODUCTORY.

NOT EXACT SURE ABOUT THE TIME, BUT PROBABLY CLOSE TO ABOUT 10:00 AM IN THE MORNING.

ON THIS ITEM WE'LL BRING BACK, UH, STAFF IDEAS AND COUNCIL CAN DIRECT FROM THERE.

BEFORE WE SPEND MUCH STAFF TIME, MIGHT IT BE PRUDENT FOR KURT TO ADVISE US WHETHER WE HAVE ANY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD EVEN ALLOW THIS KIND OF THING? I KNOW YOU PROBABLY CAN'T TELL US NOW.

NOT TODAY.

WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.

UH, RIGHT, BUT I MEAN BEFORE WE, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING, WHAT I'M SAYING IS BEFORE WE SPEND STAFF TIME ON THIS, LET'S FIGURE OUT IS THIS REALLY SOMETHING WE GOTTA WORRY ABOUT HERE? 'CAUSE IF WE DON'T, I MEAN I DON'T DO WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS IN SO DON'T ANSWER THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH.

WELL THAT'S WHAT SAYING ANSWER THAT ENOUGH INFORMATION.

I'M JUST SAYING ANSWER THAT QUESTION BEFORE WE SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME ON GETTING THE PROS AND CONS OF SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE ALLOWED IN OUR CITY.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

THANK YOU .

ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? UM, YES, I I HAVE ONE.

I OH NO, GO AHEAD CHARLOTTE.

UM, I WAS ADVISED TO BRING THIS UP AS A POTENTIAL, UH, FUTURE ITEM.

IT WAS SOMETHING I HAD RAISED FOR THE, UM, FOR THE RETREAT.

AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED AND I WONDER IF OTHERS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DISCUSSION REGARDING COUNTY OWNED, UM, STREETS WITHIN THE CITY OF SEDONA THAT WE INHERITED AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION AND WHICH IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AT LEAST WE DON'T MAINTAIN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE ROADS WITHIN, WITHIN HOAS OR THAT KIND OF THING.

I'M TALKING ABOUT ROADS SUCH AS SHELBY.

SHELBY WAS ONE OF 'EM.

UM, THAT WAS A COUNTY ROAD THAT WE INHERITED AND WE DID NOTHING FOR DECADES WITH IT.

AND I BELIEVE AT SOME, WELL, I JUST THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT INVENTORY CONSISTS OF NOW, WHAT THE CITY'S POLICY IS REGARDING THOSE WITH AN EYE TOWARDS IMPROVING THE AMENITIES AVAILABLE TO ALL CITIZENS HERE.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

WE'VE GOT THREE COUNCILOR FAF ALSO AND COUNCILOR FURMAN.

ANYTHING ELSE? HEARING NOTHING OR ADJOURNED? MAYOR, WE'VE GOT TWO HEARING SOMETHING ADJO.

WE'RE NOT ADJOURNED.

AND I HAVE AN ITEM ASUR.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL A QUICK UPDATE ON A PENDING FUTURE ITEM THAT'S BEEN ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, YOU HAD ASKED ME TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SCHEDULE A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THIS AFTERNOON.

UM, IT'LL HAPPEN ON MARCH 25TH.

IS THAT A NORMAL COUNSEL? YES.

IT'S A WEDNESDAY WORK SESSION.

AND THAT IS THE DAY YOU'LL HAVE THE, UM, IN-DEPTH HOUSING, UM, DISCUSSION WITH MR. ALL.

GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU JOANNE.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I'M MEETING TO SCHEDULE A COUNCIL PHOTO SHOOT AND CHECKING YOUR AVAILABILITY FOR FEBRUARY 5TH.

I'M

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UM, REPEAT THE DATE.

FEBRUARY 5TH.

I WILL NOT BE IN TOWN.

GOTTA HAVE EVERYBODY I GET, I GET BACK IN THE AFTERNOON THAT DAY.

SO NOT AVAILABLE IN THE MORNING.

I'M OUT THAT ENTIRE WEEK.

I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH ANOTHER DATE.