* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD [1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE] AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF SEDONAS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT ONE O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14TH. GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MYSELF TO PUT THEIR CELL PHONES ON MUTE. OKAY, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU READ THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR PLU. HERE. VICE MAYOR FOLTZ. PRESENT. COUNCILOR DUNN. HERE. COUNCILOR FURMAN. EXCUSED. COUNCILOR HOSSAINI. HERE. COUNCILOR KINSELLA. PRESENT. COUNCILLOR F HERE. . OKAY. [3.a. AB 3286 Discussion/possible direction regarding a Capital Improvement Program (CIP) priority planning session to review, evaluate, and establish priorities for upcoming capital projects as part of the City’s long-term financial and infrastructure planning ] WE HAVE SPECIAL BUSINESS TODAY, AB 32 86. DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, PRIORITY PLANNING SESSION TO REVIEW, EVALUATE, AND ESTABLISH PRIORITIES FOR UPCOMING CAPITAL PROJECTS AS PART OF THE CITY'S LONG-TERM FINANCIAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING. BARBARA, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UH, MAYOR, COUNSELORS, BARBARA WHITEHORN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. UM, TODAY WE'RE GONNA START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE STATUS OF OUR MASTER PLANS AND OTHER PLANS THAT WE'VE CREATED OVER THE YEARS. UM, SOME OF WHICH I KNOW YOU ALL AS INDIVIDUALS WEREN'T NECESSARILY PRESENT FOR SOME OF YOU WERE. UM, BUT I THINK AS YOU MENTIONED AT THE RETREAT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT PROGRESS WE'VE MADE ON PLANS AND WHAT IS STILL IN PROGRESS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO WE'LL START WITH THAT AND THEN WHEN THAT'S COMPLETE, UM, STERLING AND I WILL GO INTO THE PLANS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 POTENTIAL PROJECTS, WHICH OF COURSE WE'RE LOOPING YOU IN EARLY THIS YEAR SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY PROVIDE MORE DIRECTION TO US ON THIS KIND OF PROJECT. YES, THIS KIND LET'S DELAY. WE WANNA FOCUS ON THIS AND WHAT, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT YOU WANT TO SPEND OVERALL. UM, SO THIS IS REALLY VERY MUCH THE SECOND HALF OF TODAY WILL BE VERY MUCH A DRAFT OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AND WE WANT YOUR DIRECTION ON IS THIS THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR SHOULD WE GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA JUST INTRODUCE THE MASTER PLAN STATUS REPORT. UM, WE'RE GONNA DO A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW OF ALL THE CIRCULATION AND MOBILITY PLANS, UH, WASTEWATER PLANS, SUSTAINABILITY PLANS, AND PARK PLANS. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO KURT HARRIS, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, TO TALK ABOUT SEDONA IN MOTION AND THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. KURT, YOU WANNA COME OVER HERE? OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN OVERVIEW, UM, WE STARTED OUT AS TRYING TO PUT THIS AS A COMPREHENSIVE POINT. I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH MY HANDOUTS. YOU HAVE, YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION YET? MM-HMM . OKAY. SO I'M NOT GONNA READ FROM THE SLIDE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, JUST STOP ME AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK OR ANSWER. UM, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN STARTED IN 2 20 16. THAT'S WHEN THEY DID THEIR OUTREACH FOR SURVEYS, GETTING THEIR DATA ENDPOINTS AND SO ON. IT WAS PUBLISHED IN TWO 18. UM, THIS FRAMEWORK FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 27 TRANSPORTATION PRIORITIES IS A TRANSPORTATION PLAN ADOPTED 2018. IT'S A PRIMARY, A LONG RANGE CIRCULATION POLICY DOCUMENT THAT THE SIM EMPHASIZES SAFETY, CONGESTION AND MOBILITY WITHOUT RELYING ON ROADWAY WIDENING OR CAPACITY EXPANSION. THE 2027, UH, PRIORITIES REFLECT IMPLEMENTATIONS OF ADOPTED STRATEGIES. THIS IS NOT A NEW POLICY DIRECTION. AND AS WE IMPLEMENT INTO 2027, GO TO SLIDE SIX. SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH HERE, [00:05:05] YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE SHORT, MIDTERM, AND LONG TERM WE'VE, UH, MET. CAN CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR A MINUTE? YES, MA'AM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT HAS CHANGED, IF ANYTHING, FROM WHEN THE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED? 'CAUSE I EXPECT THINGS HAD WOULD'VE CHANGED OVER THE COURSE OF TIME. LIKE WE, THERE WASN'T A ROUNDABOUT OF FOREST ROAD IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN, WAS THERE? YES. OH, WELL UP. PICK SOMETHING ELSE. OKAY. , IS EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING MAPPED BACK TO THAT PLAN OR, YES, MA'AM. OH, IT DOES EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING. AND SO WHEN I GO THROUGH THIS, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT'S COMPLETED AND WHAT'S IN PROCESS. RIGHT? BUT WHAT ABOUT THINGS THAT WEREN'T CONTEMPLATED? IS THERE NOTHING THAT WASN'T CONTEMPLATED RIGHT NOW? NO. WE'VE BEEN SOLELY SINCE 2018 FOCUSING ON DELIVERING WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN DONE. AND ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAS SHOWN THAT IT'S MADE A DIFFERENCE. AND I'M SURE DRIVING IN, UM, UPTOWN AT WHAT IT USED TO BE, WE CAN ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT. SO MY BIGGEST ISSUE, UH, POINTS FOR PEOPLE TO OBSERVE IS REMEMBER OAK CREEK CANYONS, UH, SOUTHBOUND YOU COULD NEVER DRIVE IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING A HUGE QUEUE. WELL, THAT'S HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE WE DID OUR SIM IMPROVEMENTS. NOW SIM ONE IS DONE. SO I'LL WE'LL STEP THROUGH THE STRATEGIES AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE WE HAVE, AND THAT'S WHERE EXACTLY WHERE I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS OF WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. OKAY, MELISSA. SO JUST TO TAG ONTO THAT, SO SOMETHING LIKE THE INTELLIGENT, UM, UH, METERING AND MONITORING SIGNALS AT THE Y UM, THOSE WERE IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN 10 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THAT'S TECHNOLOGY THAT DIDN'T EXIST 10 YEARS AGO. CORRECT. BUT THOSE ARE SMALLER PROJECTS OF USING ITS TO FULFILL THAT STRATEGY. SO THAT SPECIFICALLY WASN'T IDENTIFIED. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DUE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION OF WHAT WE CAN DO, THAT OUR HIGHER VALUE, LOW COST VERSUS BIG INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO. AND THAT'S EXACTLY, UM, COUNCILOR DUNN THAT WE'RE MOVING TO IN 2027 TO REDUCE OUR OVERALL BUDGET COSTS, BUT STILL DELIVER ON, UH, TRAFFIC CON CONGESTION, TRAFFIC CONGESTION RELIEF PROJECTS. SO MAYOR, IS THAT THE KIND OF THING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR? SO WE, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE DIGITAL MONITORING, WHEN YOU GET TO PARKING, ALL THAT WAS STUFF THAT DIDN'T EXIST RIGHT. 10 YEARS AGO OR SEVEN YEARS AGO. SO I THINK YOU'RE ASKING FOR THOSE LITTLE THINGS. THERE ARE REPLACING TO WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU JUST SAID, THEY'RE REPLACING THINGS THAT WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT WERE DIFFERENT KINDS OF LARGER STRUCTURAL PROJECTS OR INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECTS. AND THEY MAY REPLACE THOSE. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT YEAH. UM, IS BEING ASKED FOR HERE IS WHERE WHERE HAVE WE DECIDED TO SORT OF UPGRADE TO NEW TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES TO ELIMINATE PROJECTS THAT MIGHT HAVE ONCE BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN? RIGHT. SO GREAT EXAMPLE. GREAT TOPIC. UM, SO THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED SLIP LANES IN THE Y ROUNDABOUT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO OUR, OUR Y UH, METERING, THE ADAPTIVE SIGNALS ARE A REPLACEMENT OF THAT. 'CAUSE WE TRIED, IT WAS ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH DESIGN 60% DESIGN. I THINK OX DID IT, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE SLIDES. WELL, WE COULDN'T GET PERMITTING THROUGH ADOT. THAT'S ALL CHANGED NOW. SO WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT AS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE. ONCE WE GET THESE ITS INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS IN AND RUNNING, THAT'S ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CAN TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THAT Y ROUNDABOUT. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, SO THE TRANSPORTATION MASTERMIND DIDN'T SPECIFY, BUT WE'VE ADAPTED OVER TIME TO INCORPORATE WHAT IS THE BEST, UH, DOLLAR VALUE, WHAT'S THE BEST INVESTMENT THAT WE CAN RELIEVE, MEET THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES OF THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. SO AS YOU GO ALONG, IF THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES, CAN YOU POINT TO THEM? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'VE MADE NOTES AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TRYING TO BE AS MOST SHORT AND COMPREHENSIVE, BUT CONCISE AS POSSIBLE. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HERE FOR YOU TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO STOP ME AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND GIVE YOU THE, ALL THE INFORMATION I CAN, YOU KNOW, IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE ALLOWED. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS, MELISSA. BRIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR KURT, ON THIS STRATEGY. ONE, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I THINK WE STILL HAVE IS ON DEMAND PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS. YOU KNOW, IN UPTOWN WE'VE GOT TWO THAT REMAIN RIGHT AT THEABOUT AND THEN UP AT UH, UM, OWENS B YEAH. UP AT BY WAYSIDE. WAYSIDE, YES. YEAH. [00:10:01] AND THEN THERE'S ONE ON JORDAN RIGHT OFF OF THE JORDAN ROUNDABOUT MM-HMM . SO CAN WE BE LOOKING AT WHETHER WE CAN SIGNALIZE THOSE OR IN SOME WAY HAVE SOME KIND OF INTELLIGENT CONTROL SO THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE THE FRICTION THAT THOSE CAUSE? YES. AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT KIND OF TIES INTO FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN UPTOWN. WE WOULD LOVE TO FINISH THAT SKY BRIDGE, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT WAYSIDE CHAPEL. WE HAVE ONE SIDE BUILT, BUT THE OTHER POINT WAS THE BEST WESTERN WAS GOING TO PARTNER WITH US, AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ITEMS IDENTIFIED THAT WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, REDUCE THAT FRICTION. AND, AND WE'LL IDENTIFY THAT IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION. YOU'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY THAT IN THE PRE TODAY OR THE NEXT TIME? TIME. YEAH. TODAY AS WE GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES, AS YOU'LL SEE. SO WE JUST, OKAY. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S ONE ON THE PEDESTRIAN CROSS BRIDGE, BUT I, AND I'M ALL FOR LOOKING AT THAT, BUT THAT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY VERSUS ADDING ADDITIONAL SIGNALIZATION ON THOSE ON DEMAND CROSSINGS THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW. AND THOSE COULD BE DONE QUICKLY, RIGHT? CORRECT. UM, THE THING WITH WAYSIDE CHAPEL IS PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE'S ALREADY DONE. SO WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT AND, YOU KNOW, US PUBLIC WORKS WOULD LOVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT INVESTMENT TO COMPLETE THAT. OKAY. MY QUESTION, WHEN THE DAY IS DONE IS WILL YOU BE EVALUATING AND WHEN HAVING SOME SIGNALIZATION ON THOSE ON DEMAND STREET CROSSINGS BECAUSE THEY DO CREATE FRICTION, ESPECIALLY ON BUSY WEEKENDS AND THOSE CAN BE DONE QUICKLY AND IN RELATIVELY LITTLE COST. WELL THAT'S OUR TCAS ARE ARE THERE FOR THOSE PEAK VISITATIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. ITS THE INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC SYSTEMS FROM AKA ALL THE WAY THROUGH IS OUR LONG TERM PLAN TO SIGNALIZE THOSE AND HAVE TIMING. AND SIGNALIZATION I'LL, I'LL GET THAT IN. UH, STRATEGY 10. SO, SO ON DEMAND FOOT CROSSING NOW IS ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THIS SMART TECHNOLOGY FOR THE Y ROUNDABOUT. CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE, A SCOPE THAT WE GAVE TO KIMLEY HORN THAT THOSE ADAPTIVE SIGNAL METERS WE'RE GONNA INCORPORATE FOR SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS AT THE Y ROUNDABOUT AND THEN THE FUTURE ROUNDABOUTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO INSTALL AT 89 A AND RANGER IN THE FOREST EXTENSION. OKAY. PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE PREEMPTION, THERE'S THAT WHOLE SAFETY FACTOR AND ALL THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY IN THE PRESENTATION AS WE MOVE THROUGH OF WORKING WITH ADOT AND COLLABORATING WITH THEM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS, IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED, BUT I'M GONNA IT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. WE'RE REALLY GONNA HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY, MELISSA, AND THEN LET'S GIVE A CHANCE. I'D RATHER START HERE AND, AND TRY TO GET AS MUCH QUESTIONS ANSWERED. SO WHEN WE GET IN THE MEAT, SO I, I THINK WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY HEARING WAS WE TALK ABOUT MIDTERM LONG-TERM ACTIONS AND UM, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE MAY BE A LONG-TERM ACTION, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN DEPENDING UPON THE COST AND DEPENDING UPON WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN GET ANY, UH, PARTNERSHIP GOING WITH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. RIGHT. SO IN LIEU OF ASSUMING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IN SOME MAGICAL FUTURE PERIOD, THE THING I BELIEVE THAT A VICE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT IS COULD WE LOOK AS SORT OF A SHORT TERM SORT OF INTERIM SO SOLUTION, A WAY OF SIGNALIZING THOSE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS INSTEAD OF THE PEDESTRIANS EITHER CROSSING WITHOUT ANY SIGNALS AT ALL OR, YOU KNOW, UH, TRAFFIC SUDDENLY STOPPING BECAUSE IT'S ON DEMAND. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD. AND IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT AS SORT OF AN INTERIM? WHAT WOULD THOSE COSTS BE? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WILL HAPPEN OR WHEN IT'LL HAPPEN. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION WAS. YES. BUT THEN KURT, BUT THEN KURT'S ALSO SAYING, HEY, THE SMART METERING OF THE ROUNDABOUTS IS ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING THIS INTO ACCOUNT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA TAKE BEFORE THAT WOULD BECOME REAL E EXCEPT MY CONCERN AROUND THAT IS LIKE O AND B CROSSING AT THE WAYSIDE. THAT'S REALLY NOT A ROUNDABOUT CROSSING, THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. AND SO THERE IS NO LIGHT THERE, THERE'S NO SIGNAL THERE TO BE INTELLIGENTLY SIGNALED JORDAN, THERE'S A LIGHT, BUT THERE ISN'T ONE AT THE CROSSWALK THAT'S OVER BY WAYSIDE. SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE, YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT CROSSING IN PARTICULAR REALLY BACKS UP TRAFFIC 'CAUSE PEOPLE SORT OF CROSS OVER THEN STAND IN THE MIDDLE AND TAKE PICTURES OR WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE DOING. SO, UM, [00:15:01] BUT I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU AND I THINK ANDY WANTS TO JUMP IN. I'M JUST HERE TO HELP IF I CAN. I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO ADD. THANKS. SOMETHING TO SIMULATE WHAT'S WE'VE ALREADY DONE AT MIDBLOCK IS WHAT I'M HEARING, HAVING A SIGNALED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. SO AS FAR AS THE, THE LAST MASTER PLAN GOES, WE LOOKED AT TECHNOLOGIES AND IT WENT TO, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF, UH, ANALYSIS ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS NOW EIGHT YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SO NEW, NEW TECHNOLOGY IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE VALUABLE TO REASSESS FOR A MASTER PLAN UPDATE IF WE DO ONE IN THE FUTURE. SO, UM, I CAME IN LATE TO THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHERE THAT WAS HEADED OR NOT. . YEAH, I MEAN I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF ANDY FOR YOUR BENEFIT BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS WE STILL HAVE ON DEMAND PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS IN UPTOWN ON 89 A AND AT JORDAN ROAD JUST OFF OF THE JORDAN ROUNDABOUT. AND THOSE DO CREATE FRICTION, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL OBSERVED IT, RIGHT? AND THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SIGNALED OR IN SOME WAY IMPROVED UPON NOW VERSUS WAITING FOR WHAT COULD MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. SO JUST ASKING CAN WE GET THAT ON THE WORK PLAN TO EVALUATE AND COME BACK TO US QUICKLY WITH ARE THOSE REAL SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN, IN RELOOKING AT THAT. I WOULD JUST ALSO ADD SOME BACKGROUND. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE TCA PROGRAM THAT'S THE TRAFFIC CONTROL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM SINCE 2016. SO THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT SIGNAL CONTROL CONTROLS AND AUTOMATED SYSTEMS, BUT WE STILL NEED OUR TCAS. AND A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS MIDBLOCK. MIDBLOCK IS A SIGNALED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, BUT WE DO NEED TCAS THERE BECAUSE OF THE COMPLIANCE THAT HAPPENS AT EVERY CROSSING THAT WE CONTROL. THE COMPLIANCE IS ALWAYS THE STRUGGLE AND AND IMPROVING THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD FURTHER, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATE SOLUTIONS FOR. AND AND I MENTIONED TO LOCKE THAT'S ONGOING IN PROCESS. IT'S THE SAME SITUATION AT ONE STATE ROUTE 1 79 THERE. YEP. AND AND THE POINT IS, IS ITS IS ANY TIME YOU HAVE ANY CONTROL IN YOUR CORRIDOR, YOU WANT 'EM ALL LINKED AND SYNCHRONIZED. SO AS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IS UPTOWN, IT'S TALKING TO UPPER RED ROCK LOOP AND IT'S TRACKING ALL THOSE PLATOON OF VEHICLES ARE COMING. SO THAT'S HOW THE INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM WORKS AND SO ON. AND WE CAN TALK IN MORE IN DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE GET TO THAT STRATEGY 10 AND FOUR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THIS WE'RE JUST WARMING UP. SO GOOD TIMING. ANDY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. , UH, I DUNNO IF I PROBABLY BETTER TO LOOK HERE. SO I TALKED ABOUT SLIDES. SO THIS IS STRATEGY TWO. WELL, ONE I NEEDED TO CELEBRATE. SO REMEMBER ONE A, THE TWO LANES ARE DONE. WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT ABOUT HOW THERE'S NO MORE BACKUP TRAFFIC IN CREEK SOUTHBOUND. WE DID, UH, THE SIM ONE B, WHICH WAS AMARA LANE AND NORTHBOUND, AND THEN WE IMPROVISED AND DID THE ZIPPER MERGE WHEN WE WERE HAVING, AGAIN, AN MENTIONED NON-COMPLIANCE AS THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKING UP IN THE Y ROUNDABOUT. AND IT'S WORKED. I I HAVEN'T HAD ANY FEEDBACK THAT THOSE NORTHBOUND ISSUES ARE HAPPENING. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE, THESE STRATEGIES WERE IMPLIED. WE IMPLEMENT 'EM, WE ADJUST AND WE USE THE, THE AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY AND SIGNALING TO GET COMPLIANCE TO PS AND ALSO THE DRIVERS. SO ROUND THE THEABOUT MIDBLOCK THE MORE RIGHT LANE TURN AND THEN ZIP EMERGE. SO THOSE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS I WANTED TO SAY THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THAT'S NOW CHECKED OFF ON THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. HERE'S THE PEDESTRIAN, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF IDENTIFIED AND TALKED ABOUT. UM, THIS UPTOWN SIT ON THE PEDESTRIAN, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. IT'S BEEN PAUSED. WE'RE HEARING NOW TODAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REACTIVATE THIS, WHAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE AND USE IN THE ITS. UM, THE BIG POINT WAS I THINK WE'VE MESHED INTO EMAILS. ANDY WAS THE WAYSIDE CHAPEL AND NOW THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE'RE REPLACING THE WIND CHIMES THE MUSIC'S IN THERE, UM, ON THE, ON THAT LITTLE PATIO NEAR WAYSIDE. SO ANYWAYS, WELL, AS I RECALL, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES IS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL YES. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK, WHICH IS MAYBE ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS PAUSED. [00:20:01] RIGHT? SO IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO DISCUSS, NOT JUST SAY IT. WE'RE DOING IT. EXACTLY. AND THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A LOT OF, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO THE BUSINESSES HOPEFULLY THAT THEY'RE SEEING THAT ALL OF THE SUCCESS OF OUR SIM THAT THERE'D BE MORE OPEN TO DOING THAT AS WELL. AND ANOTHER FACTOR THERE JUST AS A REMINDER IS THAT THERE'S PLANNING, YOU KNOW, THE UPTOWN CFA AS AN EXAMPLE IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD ALONG WITH A RELOOK AT THAT STRATEGY. WHEN WE DO, LUCKILY WE HAVE SOME GREAT STAFF THAT JUST JOINED US AND ARE HELPING IN THAT AREA. SO I THINK WE'RE MM-HMM . WE'RE GONNA BE IN GOOD SHAPE MOVING FORWARD. YEAH. AND THIS ALL TIES TO PARKING, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT ATTRACTION. SO WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THE BUSINESSES ON THAT NORTH SIDE ARE, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ANOTHER TRACTION AND THAT'S WHERE WE'D LOVE TO SHOW WHERE WE CAN BUILD THIS PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND BRING THAT AS AN ATTRACTION AND MAKE IT ANOTHER ART DRAW AND SO ON. SO, UM, GOOD POINT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. UH, BRIAN HAD, GO AHEAD. YEAH, JUST A OBSERVATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONTROVERSIAL NATURE OF THIS PROJECT MAKES IT A GREAT, UH, CANDIDATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS FORMAT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE IMPLEMENTING NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ONE THAT HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, AND, AND IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF HOW WILL THE VIEW SHED, UM, IMPACT BE EVALUATED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS ON HOW TO JUDGE THE IMPACT MM-HMM . BUT LET'S WAIT TO SEE WHERE THIS FALLS IN OUR PRIORITIES. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS WE COULD CIRCLE BACK AROUND AT THIS AND WE'LL BE WELCOMING YOUR DIRECTION AND WE'LL MAKE IT, UH, THE BEST OF, UM, OF AVAILABILITY. SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE WAIT AND SEE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BUDGET HAS BEEN PUSHED TO FISCAL YEAR 30. WE WOULD JUST MOVE THAT UP AND THEN WE WOULD GET YOU A REVISED ESTIMATE. SO NOW WE'RE IN STRATEGY THREE, WHICH IS THE UPTOWN SEDONA PARKING IMPROVEMENTS. UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, AMBER AND DAVID ARE WORKING ON THIS, UH, IN, IN PUBLIC WORKS IS SUPPORTING THEM. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL JUST REACH OUT TO AMBER TO BE MORE SPECIFIC AS SHE'S KNOWING MORE DETAILS AS OF DATE. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WAY FINDING SIGNS THE PARKING AREAS, ARE WE, IS THAT MEANING THE ELECTRONIC SIGNS THAT WOULD SAY THREE PARKING PLACES AVAILABLE THIS WAY, EIGHT PARKING PLACES AVAILABLE THAT WAY? 25 THIS WAY? I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S WHAT I NOW UNDERSTAND. IT'S BOTH ELECTRONIC AND STATIC SIGNS. YEAH. SO IT, THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS BOTH DIRECTIONAL, SO GETTING FOLKS TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TO PARK AS WELL AS CAPACITY, THAT CAPACITY, UM, NOTIFICATION SO THAT WE'RE REDUCING THAT CIRCULATION WITHIN THAT. YEAH. 'CAUSE I MEAN, AT THIS POINT WITH THE WAY TECHNOLOGY HAS ADVANCED, I DON'T, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO DIRECT PEOPLE INSTEAD OF SAYING THERE'S PARKING THIS WAY AND THAT WAY AND THAT WAY WHY SEND THEM TO CLOG A STREET THAT WAY IF THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE THAT WAY? SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THE TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS AVAILABLE TO US SERIOUSLY INTO CONSIDERATION FOR SIGNAGE. THAT IS OUR PLAN. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT THERE WILL BE AN IN DEPTH DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE 27TH ON THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. YES. YEAH, CHARLOTTE, UM, I NOTICED THAT THE PARKING GARAGE IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT YOU'VE GOT MONEY NEXT YEAR FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING SOLUTIONS, WHICH I ASSUME IS OFF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE OFF STREET PARKING ISSUES. IS THAT, SO THIS IS OUR, OUR PREEMPTIVE, UH, KIND OF PIVOT YOU MIGHT SAY, TO CARRY OVER SOME FUNDING BASED ON THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF COUNCIL DIRECTING STAFF TO WAIT TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM UNTIL IT'S NECESSARY. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, ON THE 27TH. OKAY. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS CLEAR IN EARLIER CONVERSATIONS BY COUNCIL. IT, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT PLAN NEEDED TO BE IN PARALLEL WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE PARKING GARAGE SO THAT YOU BUILD IT, THEY DAD GUN BETTER COME AND WE NEED TO CLEAR THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, JUST TO MAKE A A LITTLE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THERE, WE WILL HAVE THE PROGRAM BUILT AND READY TO IMPLEMENT AND IF COUNCIL DECIDES THEY WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT AHEAD OF OPENING THE GARAGE, WE CAN DO THAT. [00:25:01] HOWEVER, WE ALSO WANT TO BE READY TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO IMPLEMENT THAT AFTER THE GARAGE IS OPEN, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE. SO WE HAVE EITHER OPTION. SO I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH. HAS, HAS ANY, UH, OF MY COLLEAGUES GIVEN YOU THE IDEA THAT THEY WANNA DELAY IT? YES. AND UH, THAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SO IS THERE ANYBODY HERE OWN IT UP TO IT. MELISSA? SO YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT. SO, UM, WE SAID WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS AS PART OF OUR PLAN OVERALL AS I WOULD CALL, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REASONS I VOTED TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD THE GARAGE WAS ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN THE GARAGE IS BUILT AND ALL OF OUR MUNICIPAL LOTS BECOME PAY LOTS AND OTHER PEOPLE'S LOTS THAT WE MIGHT RELEASE ALSO BECOME PAY LOTS PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING FOR FREE PARKING AND IF THEY CAN FIND FREE PARKING AND AVAILABLE PARKING ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS, PEOPLE WILL TAKE THAT PARKING. MM-HMM . AND EMPLOYEES MIGHT TAKE THAT PARKING. SO, YOU KNOW, WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE WORRIED ABOUT THAT HAPPENING. NOW WE'VE SEEN, ALL OF US HAVE SEEN PUSHBACK FROM UPTOWN RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE NOT SURE THEY REALLY WANT, THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK YET. RIGHT. SO I WOULD BE FINE WITH SAYING, LOOK, IF IF WE'RE WRONG AND, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING AN INFLUX OF CARS PARKING ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS, THEN WE DON'T NEED THIS PROGRAM. BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT OUR SUPPOSITION IS CORRECT AND SUDDENLY UPTOWN RESIDENTS ARE FINDING THEIR STREETS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES ARE CROWDED WITH VEHICLES, WHICH SOME PEOPLE IN AREAS I HAVE HEARD WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALREADY HAVING THAT PROBLEM, THEN I WOULD SAY, OKAY, WELL NOW WE'VE GOT THE PLAN, LET'S RELEASE THAT PLAN AND, AND LET'S FIX UPTOWN. BUT IF THE UPTOWN RESIDENTS DON'T WANT US TO DO A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PLAN, ONCE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT, THEN TO ME, I WOULD HOLD ONTO IT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE PROBLEM WE ANTICIPATE REALLY TURNS OUT TO BE A PROBLEM. OKAY. BUT WE, WE AS COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF AND WE ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE THAT DIRECTION UNLESS WE AT COUNCIL DECIDE TO CHANGE THAT DIRECTION. AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE JANUARY 27TH MEETING IS BRINGING ALL OF THESE POLICIES BACK TO YOU OKAY. TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AND BE AND PREPARING FOR THE, FOR WHEN THE GARAGE OPENS. OKAY. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK UPTOWN RESIDENTS HAVE, HAVE REALLY WEIGHED IN ONE RESIDENT HAS WEIGHED IN WITH FEAR OF A PROGRAM THAT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED. UH, I'M NOT DISAGREEING. OKAY. SO ALL, ALL I'M SAYING IS THERE'S, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROGRAM IS, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS YET. CORRECT. ONCE WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS AND WE UNDERSTAND IT AND WE'VE ROLLED IT OUT FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT, RIGHT. AND THEN, AND TO COMMENT ON, THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO IT OR NOT. BUT WE DON'T, THE REASON TO DO IT IS TO PREVENT THOSE RESIDENTIAL STREETS FROM BECOMING OVER COME BY FREE PARKING SPACES FOR TOURISTS OR EMPLOYEES OR WHATEVER. AND THAT TO ME WAS WHY WE WANTED TO DO IT. IT'S EMPLOYEES, I MEAN, HAVE YOU, DO YOU GO ON THOSE STREETS IN THE MORNING? THEY'RE COMPLETELY FILLED WITH THE EMPLOYEES WORKING IN THOSE BUSINESSES. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAID I WOULDN'T DO THE GARAGE UNLESS WE HAD THIS PROGRAM. BUT I'M ALSO SAYING THAT I HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS IN UPTOWN HAVE TO SAY ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS. OKAY. AND THEN I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY, WE KNOW WE CAN DO IT. WE KNOW HOW WE WOULD IMPLEMENT IT, BUT IF THE, IF UPTOWN RESIDENTS DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A NECESSARY THING, LET'S WAIT AND SEE WHETHER IT REALLY IS A NECESSARY THING. BUT THAT'S THE CONVERSATION ON THE 27TH, ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THIS PLAN IS AND ONCE WE CAN GET PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE AND THE BUSINESSES WHOSE EMPLOYEES ARE PARKING IN THOSE SPACES, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL. UM, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT ON THE 27TH. BUT COUNCILOR DUNN IS CORRECT THAT WE HAVE HEARD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF FEEDBACK. IT MAY BE ORIGINATING FROM ONE PERSON, BUT THAT SINGLE PERSON HAS CONVINCED QUITE A COLLECTIVE AMOUNT OF FOLKS, UM, TO OPPOSE THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING PROGRAM. OKAY. I, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY EMAILS AT ALL. ONE PERSON OTHER THAN ONE PERSON SAYING THAT THEY SPEAK FOR 150 PEOPLE. [00:30:01] 43. AND IN OUR OUTREACH, I HADN'T HEARD FROM 149 OTHERS IN OUR OUTREACH THROUGH SURVEYS AND THE OUT OUTREACH MEETING THAT WE HAD, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT SHE'S TALKED WITH AND AFFECTED WITH HER INFORMATION SHOWED UP AND WE HAD TO CORRECT THE INFORMATION. AND ONCE WE DID, A LOT OF THEM CHANGED THEIR MINDS ON THAT. BUT OKAY, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THAT, BUT I STILL THINK WE NEED TO TALK THIS THROUGH. ABSOLUTELY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T, IT'S JUST THAT WE GIVE DIRECTION AND WE DIDN'T CHANGE COUNSELOR OR TWO COUNSELORS CAN'T CHANGE THAT DIRECT. WE DIDN'T CHANGE COURSE. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO, SO YEAH. YEAH. SO I MEAN, TO BE CLEAR, I GAVE NO DIRECTION. GOT IT. I JUST SAID AS COUNSEL, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO DO AN IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION OR WAIT AND SEE WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION. BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT I CAN'T HAVE BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT WORKS YET. RIGHT, RIGHT. CAN I, DEREK MAYBE POINT OUT ONE MORE THING IS I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT OUR COUNCIL CHAMPION SEEMS TO BE TAKING SHAPE HERE ON, ON THIS TOPIC AND IT'S REFRESHING FOR STAFF. THANK YOU DEREK. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING SHE SAID IF THE UPTOWN RESIDENTS, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR IF IT'S ONE PERSON, BUT IF THEY TELL US WE DON'T WANT IT, THEN GIVE 'EM WHAT THEY WANT. AND IF IT TURNS OUT THEY'RE WRONG AND IT BECOMES A PROBLEM, THEN WE'RE READY TO IMPLEMENT IT. BUT, UH, OKAY. I I JUST WANNA START OUT BY SAYING IT IS A PROBLEM. THAT'S WHY WE SAID IT. AND IT'S THE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PARKING THERE WHO ARE AND STAY THERE ALL DAY AND WHICH IS A REASON THAT PEOPLE WHO WANNA GO TO UPTOWN BEFORE THE GARAGE WOULD MAKE SPACES AVAILABLE, CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK. ONE OF THE REASONS, SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND I WAS ALSO ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SAID I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THE GARAGE. AND SO WERE YOU, UNLESS WE SOLVE THE EMPLOYEE PROBLEM AT THE SAME TIME, AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT ALL THOSE, THERE ARE FIVE MAIN FOCUS AREAS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ON 27TH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, SORRY, GO AHEAD. NO, NO. THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, WHICH IS ALL PART OF TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL NEEDS ARE. THE INGRESS, EGRESS, PARKING, SIM ZERO 3D, THAT'S THE FOREST ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PARKING GARAGE TO STATE ROUTE 89 A. IT'S REALLY ADDING SHARED USE PATHS. SO I I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. THAT'S A 520, WHICH IS REALLY CARRYOVER. UM, THAT'S IDENT IS GOING TO BE IN OUR STEPS PROGRAM. SO THERE'S MULTIMODAL THAT'S IN STRATEGY THREE ITS CAN COVER DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRATEGIES AND I'M GONNA TRY TO IDENTIFY THAT TOO. SO YOU GUYS COME AWAY KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT JUST A STRATEGY THAT WE'RE FOCUSED IN ONE AREA. WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECTIVELY LOOK AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE PROJECTS OF THE STRATEGIES TO, UM, MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF THE, OKAY. BEFORE YOU GET OFF THAT SLIDE, WHAT ABOUT THE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM? WE WERE ALSO PRETTY CLEAR WE WANTED A PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND NOW WE HAVE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN FY 27. YEAH. SO, UM, OF THOSE FIVE MAIN STRATEGY AREAS, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ON THE 27TH. UM, MAYBE I SHOULD GO AHEAD AND JUST LIST THOSE OUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN PULL THAT UP. SO PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS KIND OF THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, UH, FOCUS AREA. AND THIS IS ABOUT PARKING IN UPTOWN. NUMBER TWO IS THE RPP, THE RESIDENT PERMIT PARKING PROGRAM. NUMBER THREE IS PARKING. WE'RE CALLING IT OPTIMIZATION. YOU MIGHT RE RECALL THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT CONSOLIDATION, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT, OVERALL IT'S ABOUT RIGHT SIZING THE PARKING THAT WE HAVE IN RELATION TO DEMAND AND CAPACITY. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR IS EMPLOYEE PARKING. SO WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES, NOT BEING THE LEAD ON THAT, BUT WORKING WITH THEM. PART OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THAT AREA IS FORMED A, A PARKING WORK GROUP. WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT ISSUE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THE PARKING FEE STRUCTURE FOR PARKING FEES. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE COVERING IN DEPTH ON THE 27TH. SO LET ME ASK YOU, WHY IS THERE HALF A MILLION IN FY 27? WHY CAN'T THE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM BE DONE WHEN THE GARAGE OPENS? UM, THERE, THERE, SO THERE'S THE GARAGE, THERE ARE PARKING LOTS. THERE'S MULTIPLE ASPECTS TO THAT PROGRAM. AND I HAVE A, [00:35:01] I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT'S PROBABLY CARRYOVER TO COMPLETE WHAT'S IN PROCESS. AND SO SOMETIMES THIS IS A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE. SO IF WE'RE IN PROCESS ON IT AND WE NEED TO COMPLETE IT INTO SAY, JULY, AUGUST, THAT KIND OF THING, WE'LL HAVE FUNDING THERE SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT. RIGHT. SO THE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS GONNA BE SET FOR THE GARAGE AND THEN THAT HARDWARE SOFTWARE HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO ALL THE OTHER PARKING LOTS AS WELL. SO THE GARAGE WILL BE DONE WHEN THE GARAGE OPENS. AND THEN THERE MAY BE THAT, THAT'S THE TEMPLATE THEN TO USE FOR PARKING MANAGEMENT THROUGHOUT UPTOWN, WELL THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY EVENTUALLY. AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT AMBER IS THE PROGRAM MANAGER HERE. SO, AND SHE'LL GO INTO THAT DETAIL AS WELL. WE'LL INTO THIS WE CAN, YEAH. AMBER IS NOW THE, THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE PARKING AREA. SO PUBLIC WORKS IS SUPPORT TO TRANSIT. COULD I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE UPTOWN PARKING WORK GROUP BEGINNING EVALUATION? DOES THAT SUGGEST THAT IT EXISTS? THE PARKING WORK GROUP EXISTS ALREADY. WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FORMULATING THAT NOW. WE'VE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR INTEREST AND WE'VE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THOSE SELECTIONS RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, HAVING OUR FIRST MEETING NEXT WEEK, ACTUALLY. OKAY. YEAH. THE, THE GROUP HAS BEEN SELECTED. THERE'S BEEN NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT. UH, I GUESS I'LL INTRODUCE DAVID VESCO. HE IS OUR NEW PARKING ADMINISTRATOR. REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. HE HAS 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. HE CAME FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA, UH, JUST RECENTLY. UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM. BUT IN TERMS OF THE PARKING WORK GROUP, UH, WE HAVE, UH, SELECTED A GROUP FROM APPLICANTS. UH, THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED THIS MORNING. OUR FIRST MEETING, KICKOFF MEETING IS ON THE 21ST, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK. AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SUBSEQUENT MEETING ON THE 28TH. YOU WANNA KNOW WHO'S ON IT? YES. WHO CAN YOU TELL US WHO WAS ON THERE? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE ALL BEEN CONFIRMED YET. CAN YOU GIVE US THE MAKEUP OF IT THEN INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUAL? IT IS HALF RESIDENTS AND HALF UPTOWN BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES. WHEN YOU SAY HALF RESIDENTS, DO SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS ALSO OWN BUSINESSES? AND WHEN YOU SAY BUSINESSES, ARE SOME OF THEM ALSO RESIDENTS? I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF RIGHT THERE. WHO'S PURELY BUSINESS? WHO'S PURELY RESIDENT? WHERE'S CROSSOVER? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAKEUP ON THE, ON THE SPREADSHEET. BUT AS WE LOOK AT IT BETWEEN A RESIDENT AND A BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE IN THE UPTOWN, IT IS, IS A, IT'S A, IT'S SPLIT EQUALLY WITH RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE UPTOWN. GO AHEAD. WELL, MAYBE DURING A BREAK YOU COULD SHOW US THE SPREADSHEET EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T ALL CONFIRMED. JUST, JUST TO SEE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO OKAY. PUT THE NAMES ON RECORD. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE, WE DO. HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE WORK GROUP? THERE ARE 10. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FULLY IMPLEMENTED? WELL FOR THE GARAGE? NOPE. OVERALL, OVERALL CITY, CALL IT UPTOWN RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRACKING TO HAVE IT COMPLETE THIS SUMMER. OKAY. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS A BEAT DOWN, ANDY, BUT I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN A HOT BUTTON. THAT PACKAGE OF FIVE ITEMS THAT MANY OF US SAID WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE GARAGE WITHOUT THEM. AND THE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WAS ONE THAT WE EXPECTED WOULD ACTUALLY BE GETTING PILOTED ON THE EXISTING LOTS BEFORE THE GARAGE GOT DONE. NOW IT'S KICKED DOWN THE CURB TO PASS THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS AN EXPECTATIONS MISS. AND AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS A BEAT DOWN, BUT I MEAN WE WERE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE THIS KEEPS MOVING. WELL, I'M, I'M NOT ONE TO MAKE EXCUSES, BUT I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT DELAYS ON THIS HAS HAD TO DO WITH SOME OF THE, THE VIDEO CAMERA SYSTEM CRITIQUE THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST YEAR. WE'VE HAD TO BE VERY METICULOUS ABOUT HOW WE PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER. AND IT'S TAKEN SIGNIFICANT EXTRA TIME TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S BEEN QUITE A DELAY IN DEVELOPING THIS PROGRAM. SO I'M GONNA INJECT A PIECE OF WISDOM FROM, UH, A MANAGER I WORKED FOR MANY YEARS AGO. HE DEVELOPED WHAT WAS CALLED THE DOCTRINE OF NO SURPRISES. AND THAT WAS AS SOON AS YOU KNEW OF A SURPRISE, [00:40:01] YOU LET THOSE AFFECTED KNOW. UM, SO THIS KIND OF, TO ME, FALLS INTO THAT CAMP OF, IF IT'S TURNED INTO THIS MORE DIFFICULT, UH, SCENARIO, LET US KNOW. YOU KNOW, LIKE, NOT, NOT BECAUSE I'M BEING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PERSISTENT HERE AND ASKING MORE AND MORE AND POKING THE BEAR AND POKING THE BEAR. BUT TELL US, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVELY TELL US, HEY, THERE'S GONNA BE A MISS ON THIS. IT'S GONNA BE THREE MONTHS LATER. I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE A MESS. WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE A MESS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MESS IS. YOU GUYS JUST SAID IT WOULD, IT'S COMING AFTER THE GARAGE IMPLEMENTATION. WE EXPECTED IT BEFORE. THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL EXPECTATION. STATED VERY CLEARLY. FOR FOR THE WHOLE, FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. YOU'RE SAYING IN UPTOWN? JUST UPTOWN. SO HE'S JUST TALKING ABOUT THE UPTOWN PARKING YEAH. AREAS NOT CITYWIDE. YEAH. I DO THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE THE SYSTEM IMPLEMENTED AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE GARAGE. OKAY. BUT YOU JUST FINISHED SAYING IT JUST GOT DELAYED BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THIS WAS. WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING OUR BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE SYSTEM IN THE SUMMERTIME AND THE GARAGE FINISHES IN MARCH. MAY, MAY, MAY, MAY, APRIL. YEAH. OKAY. LOOK, AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO TO TO GO TO BATTLE HERE FOR SPORT. RIGHT? IT'S JUST THIS IS, THIS WAS A VERY HOT BUTTON THING FOR COUNCIL IN TOTAL. AND IF WE'RE SLIPPING, YOU KNOW, I JUST RECOMMEND BEING PROACTIVE AND SAYING, HEY, IF WE'RE GONNA BE DELAYED THEN LET US KNOW. DON'T, DON'T MAKE US FIGURE IT OUT BY PLAYING 20 QUESTIONS. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT FUN FOR US EITHER. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE WITHHELD ANY INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL. I REALLY DON'T. OKAY. WE WERE RELUCTANT APPROVERS, AS YOU KNOW, OF THE GARAGE, VERY RELUCTANT. AND THIS WAS A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL. AND AND AMBER WILL TELL YOU THAT SHE AND I HAVE BEEN PUT IN WEEKENDS AND EXTRA TIME INTO TRYING TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM ON TRACK. OKAY. INCLUDING MY VACATION TIMES. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS STUFF. SO I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING ON IT YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE TOGETHER. , CAN I ASK COUNSEL A QUESTION? WAS THERE WAS THE EXPECTATION THAT THE SYSTEM WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED FOR ALL OF UPTOWN OR THE PARKING GARAGE? 'CAUSE THE LAST TIME I HEARD DISCUSSION OF THIS AND I OPENED MY MOUTH AND GOT SHOUTED DOWN, BUT, UM, IT WAS THAT ONCE THE GARAGE OPENS, WE NEED THE SYSTEM FOR THE GARAGE TO BE READY. NO, THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OPERATIONAL BEFORE THE GARAGE. ACTUALLY, WE WANTED TO BE PILOTING IT WELL AHEAD OF GARAGE OPENING AND THEN THAT KIND OF MOVED TO RELUCTANTLY. I BELIEVE WE AGREED TO LET IT SLIP TO ESSENTIALLY WHEN THE GARAGE WOULD BE OPENING. OKAY. BUT THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE FOR ALL OF UPTOWN MM-HMM . WHEN THE GARAGE OPENED. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY, WELL WE'RE IN STRATEGY FOUR. THESE ARE THE, UH, STATE ROUTE 1 79 CORRIDOR FROM SHIBLEY HILL ALL THE WAY UP TO THE Y ROUNDABOUT. AGAIN, THERE'S, UH, SHORT TERM MIDTERM ACTIONS. THIS IS WHERE OUR PROGRESS IS. HAVE SOME NOTES, SORRY, JUST THE PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL AND BRIDGE. ARE WE GONNA HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND ADOT WHERE THAT IS SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS ON THE PUBLIC RECORD IN TERMS OF CLOSURES, NON CLOSURES, HYBRID. WHEN, WHEN IS THAT TODAY PART OF THIS CONVERSATION? THIS, THIS IS SIM ZERO FOUR C, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ROAD SIM, YOUR STRATEGY FOUR, THAT SARS 1 79 IMPROVEMENTS. THE SLIDE BEFORE THAT THEN YOU'RE ON NOW. IT JUST REFERRED TO IT. YEAH. THIS IS JUST THE SUMMARY OUT OF THE, UM, TRACK FOR THE, FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IN DEPTH CONVERSATION ON THAT. THAT SHOULD BE AT THE NEXT SIM UPDATE IS REALLY WHEN WE SHOULD QUEUE THAT UP FOR, UM, WHICH SHOULD BE SOON. I WOULD THINK. UH, WE DID END UP POSTPONING THAT A BIT TO DO THE PARKING IN TRANSIT RIGHT. FEBRUARY 27TH. SO AT THE NEXT UH, SIM UPDATE I THINK WOULD BE THE TIME TO GO INTO THAT. YEAH. AS SOONER THAN YES. THE NEXT ONE DEFINITELY IF WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT IT ALL TODAY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION ABOUT THE USE OF IT, HOW IT SHOULD [00:45:01] BE USED, CLOSURES OF THE ACT GRADE CROSSWALK BECAUSE THE PUBLIC, AND WE CAN SEE THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU CAN SEE IT IN LETTERS TO THE EDITOR, YOU CAN SEE IT IN VARIOUS PLACES. PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WHEN THEY ARE FEELING A DELAY AND THE CROSSWALK IS OPEN. WHETHER THE CROSSWALK IS CONTRIBUTING OR NOT AT THAT TIME DOES NOT ALTER THE PERCEPTION THAT THE CROSSWALK IS OPEN AND THEREFORE IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE DELAY THAT NEEDS TO, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. UM, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO, I THINK, MAKE A MORE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE DOWNSIDE IS OF A COMPLETE CLOSURE OF ACADE BECAUSE THEN, AND I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR THE UPDATE ON FROM ADOT. DID THEY SAY IT'S EITHER OR OR NOTHING? BECAUSE IT WAS MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE COULD STILL BE SOME SORT OF A HYBRID AND I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THAT. BUSINESSES DON'T WANT THE ACADE CLOSED. PEDESTRIANS DON'T WANT THE AC RAID OPEN. UM, WE NEED TO, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IT IS WHAT IT IS. YEAH. AND, AND THAT'S ALL WELL SPELLED OUT IN THE, THE, THERE'S A MEMO, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN TO LOCKY P**I OWNERSHIP, THE CITY AND ADOT THAT SPELLS ALL OF THAT OUT. AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GO INTO DEPTH, IN DEPTH ON THAT, UM, ON WHAT ALL THOSE, THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. BUT THAT'S STILL UNDER THE TESTING PHASE. SO TESTING'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. SO I I I JUST THINK AT SOME POINT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DIRECTION GIVEN HERE AS TO WHAT WE WANT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU GUYS TO PURSUE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FINAL USAGE IS GOING TO BE OF THE CRA CROSSING. YEAH, IT'S, IT DEFINITELY IS STILL IN PROCESS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT IN DETAIL. HOW LONG, HOW LONG WAS THE TESTING PERIOD ANTICIPATED TO BE AND HOW MUCH LONGER DOES THAT LAST? SO THE TESTING PERIOD WAS SET UP IN THE AGREEMENT MM-HMM . TO BE INDEFINITE MM-HMM . THAT WE CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT OVER TIME TO ENSURE THAT THE, THAT THE CROSSING IS IN FACT STILL WHAT'S CALLED WARRANTED THROUGH THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA TO BE IN PLACE. AND THAT WAS ADO T'S CONCERN. WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? SO ADO T'S CONCERN THAT WAS ADDRESS, WHICH IS ADDRESSED IN THE AGREEMENT IS THAT THE CITY CONTINUED TO ANALYZE AND EVALUATE THAT CROSSING OVER TIME, YEAR TO YEAR TO SHOW THAT IT'S IN FACT WARRANTED TO BE IN PLACE. BECAUSE ONCE YOU CREATE TWO CROSSINGS, THE THE ASSUMPTION WAS THAT ONE WOULDN'T BE NEEDED. RIGHT? SO THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT IT IS THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND THAT'S UNDER EVALUATION RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU MAYOR KURT OR ANDY? UM, MY QUESTION ACTUALLY DOES TIE RIGHT BACK TO THIS. SO HUMOR ME, THE, THE SIM FOUR B LANE EXPANSION, SLE TO Y. SO THAT IS ADDING WHAT A SINGLE NORTHBOUND LANE. WHAT WOULD THAT BE? SO PER THE MASTER PLAN, I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UM, IT, IT WAS LOOKING AT EITHER OPTION. YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEE TODAY THROUGH OUR TCA PROGRAM OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS AND ALL OF THAT IS THAT PERIODICALLY WE GET CONGESTION IN ACTUALLY BOTH DIRECTIONS. MM-HMM . SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD HAVE TO FULLY BE EVALUATED. AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ALMOST LIKE HAVING A FLEX LANE POSSIBLY. THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE EVALUATED IS JUST FRICTION. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS, THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE Y AND SCH NIBLEY THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THAT CONGESTION. JUST LIKE IN UPTOWN WHERE WE ELIMINATED FRICTION, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE, UH, IMPROVED CAPACITY WITHOUT HAVING TO ADD A LANE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, OF THE STREET. OKAY. SO WHEN THE STATUS SAYS POTENTIAL FOR FY 28 ON, UH, YOUR NEXT SLIDE, KURT, UM MM-HMM . OR YEAH. UM, WHAT IS IT THAT IS POTENTIAL ? WHAT, STARTING A STUDY. COMPLETING A STUDY? YEAH. BREAKING GROUND. WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? [00:50:01] WITH A PROJECT LIKE THAT, IT WOULD BE BEGINNING A STUDY. SO IT WOULD BE BEGINNING THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNDER A DOT'S OVERALL BLESSING WHEN THE DAY IS DONE. YES. SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL CIP PROJECTS, SHOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT A PLAN B? NOT TO PLAY OFF OF THAT, BUT A PLAN B OF AT SOME POINT, SHOULD THE CITY CONSIDER TAKING OVER 1 79 FROM THE NELLY ROUNDABOUT TO 1 79 SO WE CAN SIMPLY DO WHATEVER THE HECK IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT STRIP OF ROAD? THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN OPTION TO CONSIDER. EXCELLENT SLIDE TOUCHES ON IT. I I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T SAY BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED, THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, BUT IT'S AN OPTION. OKAY. I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, IT, IT'S A BIT CLUNKY BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY YOU KEEP HAVING TO TELL US JANUARY 27TH. RIGHT. SO SOME OF THIS IS JANUARY 27TH ALSO, RIGHT WHEN THE DAY IS DONE. YEAH. I JUST, WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY HOURS IN THE DAY. RIGHT? YEP. JUST TO BE READY FOR THE 27TH. WE'RE WE'RE WORKING HARD ON IT NOW. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S TRANSIT. IT'S NOT A COMPLAINT, IT'S JUST THAT WE KEEP ASKING YOU QUESTIONS AND, AND I GET IT RIGHT THAT IT'S JANUARY 27TH. IT'S JUST, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE SORT OF OUT OF ORDER HERE WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO NOD OUR HEADS ABOUT BUDGET, CIP BUDGET, WHERE WE MIGHT SAY YAY OR NAY WHEN IT COMES TO THE 27TH. SO WHAT I UNDERSTOOD COUNSEL WANTED FIRST WAS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S IN OUR MASTER PLANS AND WHERE ARE WE AT IN GETTING STUFF DONE SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF WHETHER YOU WANTED TO DIRECT STAFF TO OKAY, IT'S TIME TO REFRESH, REDO, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. WE'RE SO MANY YEARS INTO IT, IT WAS A 10 YEAR HORIZON AND YOU WANTED SOME KIND OF BIG PICTURE SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE AT. SO WE WEREN'T STRUCTURING TODAY TO BE ABOUT A DEEP DIVE ON EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT'S IN THE PLAN. BUT JUST A REMINDER OF THE BLUE SLIDES ARE THE LANGUAGE FROM THE PLAN ITSELF. THE ORANGE SLIDES ARE WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED. AND TO JUST SORT OF GIVE A KIND OF OVERALL RECONCILIATION, I GUESS, OF, OF WHAT IT IS AND WHERE WE'RE AT. AND THEN BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AT THAT HIGH LEVEL FROM COUNCIL ABOUT ANY OF THE MAJOR THINGS. 'CAUSE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAD VERY LITTLE DONE ON THEM AS WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND EFFORT ON OTHER STRATEGIES. AND IF AT THE END OF UM, DOING THIS OVERVIEW, YOU FEEL LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN OR WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THE MAJOR THINGS, MAYBE WE DO WANNA HAVE STAFF DO A REFRESH OF THIS PLAN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGIES. WE DO. A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS AGO. UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT I HAD THE STAFF PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR YOU ON THAT BASIS OF LIKE, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH ALL THIS STUFF? UM, BUT AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE PARTICULAR THINGS OR WHY PAST COUNSELS. WE TRIED TO INDICATE, YOU KNOW, IN THE STATUS WHERE WE HAD HAD PREVIOUS DIRECTION TO NOT WORK ON A PARTICULAR STRATEGY YET. UM, SO I AM SORRY IF IT FEELS CLUNKY OR OUT OF ORDER, BUT WE WEREN'T INTENDING TO GET INTO THE DEEP DIVE ON ANY OF IT OTHER THAN TO JUST DO THAT CHECK-IN BIG PICTURE BECAUSE THE PA RECENT PAST SIM UPDATES HAVE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, BUT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A SENSE OF THE WHOLE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU DONE, BRIAN? DONE. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE OAK CREEK PEDESTRIAN CROSSING 207,000. JUST COULD YOU SAY WHAT THAT'S ABOUT? YEAH, THAT'S PART OF THE BARRIER THAT WAS I WAS GETTING TO IS THE, THE LAST ITEM OF THAT THAT WE END UP PUSHING BECAUSE THE DELAYS BY GETTING A ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR ADOT TO PUT THE MEDIAN BARRIER, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE CROSSWALK THAT'S IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW. TO GET THOSE TEMPORARY ONES OUT AND PUT IN SOMETHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO ADOT. IT'S IN, UM, FINALIZED RIGHT NOW. WE HOPE TO GET DRAWINGS IMMINENT AND THEN WE HOPE TO GET THAT CONSTRUCTED THIS YEAR. THIS MONEY IS FOR ANY CARRYOVER THAT HAPPENS TO GO INTO NEXT YEAR FOR UNFORESEEN. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT MEDIAN IS [00:55:01] THAT'S WHERE ALL THE UTILITIES GO ACROSS THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. SO WE HAD TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE ON HOW WE PUT ANYTHING IN THE, IN THE MEDIAN IN THERE. SO THAT, THAT WAS A CHALLENGE IN THE DESIGN. SO WE COULDN'T BE PRECISE WHERE THE EACH POLE'S GONNA GO. WE HAD TO SHOW A DO IT COULD BE IN THIS AREA WITHIN THREE FEET AND IT JUST CREATED FAR MORE COMPLICATIONS. SO WE HOPE TO GET THAT DONE WITH THAT. THEN WE CAN GET THOSE TEMPORARY BARRIERS. AS ANDY WAS MENTIONED WITH OUR OUTREACH WITH SWAT AND I MENTIONED WITH BRIAN WITH ITS, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GONNA MODIFY THAT CROSSWALK USING TECHNOLOGY SO WE'RE NOT SO RELIANT ON TCAS THAT'S GONNA BE MORE, UH, ROBUST AND FLEXIBLE OF LOOKING AT WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S COMING AND GOING. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ALSO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC'S POINT TOO. UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I HAVE ANOTHER NOTE FOR THE POOR RANGER. OH, SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SINCE THE TMP WAS INSTITUTED AND ANDY AND UH, THE OTHER PUBLIC WORKS REALLY PUSHED ON TRYING TO DO SLIP LANES AT LY ROUNDABOUT AND AT THE Y WELL OUR MEETINGS ARE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH ADOT. THAT'S ANOTHER SUCCESS STORY I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS THE NEW ADMINISTRATION ARE VERY OPEN TO THAT. SO AS WE KEEP GOING INTO STRATEGY FOUR, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPTION WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT ADAPTIVE METERING AND SO ON AS WE'RE MEETING, UH, NEXT WEEK WITH, UM, NO TOMORROW WITH THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT, ADOT TO ADDRESS THAT AGAIN, ARE THERE. AND OUR LAST MEETING IS THEY'RE OPEN, ADOT IS OPEN WHERE ANDY UNFORTUNATELY TRIED AND TRIED AND COULDN'T GET ADOT APPROVAL . SO THAT'S A FUTURE CONSIDERATION THAT IS ON OUR RADAR. IT'S NOT SOMETHING IMPENDING RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T NEED TO COMPLICATE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH THAT. IT IS A FUTURE CONSIDERATION THOUGH. THANKS. SO, UH, MY HIGHLIGHTS OF STRATEGY FOUR IS THE FISCAL YEAR 27 FUNDING ADVANCES, DESIGN MODERNIZATION, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PROJECTS, NOT A WHOLESALE ROADWAY EXPANSION. SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS ARE EITHER SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE OR PLANNED TO POSITION THE CITY. AND FOR FISCAL YEAR 28 AND 29 FOR CONSTRUCTION COORDINATION WITH ADOT REMAINS CRITICAL. THESE PROJECTS ALIGNED WITH STATE AND REGIONAL MOBILITY OBJECTIVES. AND THEN AGAIN, I WANTED TO IDENTIFY SIM FOUR F IS THE ADAPTIVE SIGNALING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS YEAR THAT'S PROGRAMMED WITH THAT. THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR ITS EFFORTS. SO WHICH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF STALLED FOR THE EXIT OUT OF AK? THAT'S IN FIVE. THAT'S SIM FIVE. OKAY. WE'LL GET THERE. SO WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THERE. YEAH, WE'LL GET THERE. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY IN STRATEGY FIVE NOW. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS OUT OF THE TMP AND HERE'S THE SLIDE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT OUR UPDATES AND THE PROCESS NOW. OH, RIGHT THERE. YES MA'AM. THE SIM FIVE PORTAL LANE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS. UM, WE JUST RESPONDED TO A, A LENGTHY RESPONSE BACK AND FORTH. WE HOPE THIS KEEPS GETTING TRACTION TO MOVE. WE'VE IDENTIFIED MONEY TO BRING THAT TO CONSTRUCTION. WE STILL HAVEN'T STEPPED INTO THE DESIGN PLANNING UNLESS WE GET FULL BUY-IN WITH OUR PARTNERS. UH, SIM V, THE FOREST ROAD CONNECTION AGAIN, THAT'S A WIN. THAT'S A COMPLETE, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING EVERY DAY, UM, MORE PEOPLE USING THAT DURING THOSE CONGESTION TIMES. UM, IT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL. WE'D STILL LIKE TO BUILD FROM THAT AS WELL WITH THE ROUNDABOUT IN, UM, SIM FIVE D AS YOU I HAVE DIRECTED, WE'RE REALLY ON HAUL HANDS AS YOU COULD SEE, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION OF HOW ADOT AND OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IS GONNA BE VERY CRITICAL OF GETTING FUNDING FOR, UH, SIM FIVE D, WHICH IS THE RANGER BREWER ROUNDABOUT AND ALSO TIED TO SIM FIVE E. SO THE MONEY YOU'RE SEEING IN FISCAL YEAR 27, THAT'S OUR LOCAL MATCH AS WE'RE ANTICIPATED. AND THAT COULD GO UP OR GO DOWN BASED UPON WHAT THE LEGISLATURE OR ADOT. I'M ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE STATE TRANSPORTATION BOARD. UM, AND AS YOU MENTIONED TOO, MAYOR, UH, HOW WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATURE AND OUR LOBBYISTS TO REALLY MAKE THIS, THIS IS FOR THE GOING ON THE FOURTH YEAR WE APPLIED FOR SIM FIVE E FOR THE REGIONAL PROJECT PRIORITIES LIST. SO AS YOU DIRECTED, WE'RE HOPING TO BE SUCCESSFUL THIS THIS FISCAL YEAR IN 27. BRIAN, QUICK QUICK QUESTION, KURT, ON THE FOREST [01:00:01] ROAD CONNECTION AT 89 A, IS THERE ANY ANTICIPATION OF A STREETLIGHT FOR THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE? BECAUSE IN THE DARK IT REALLY IS HARD TO SPOT ONCE IT'S A FULL INTERSECTION. LIGHTING WILL BE SOMETHING REQUIRED, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, SOME LOW LEVEL LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS IN ADVANCE OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. AND SOMETHING ACTUALLY THAT WAS ON I MY A NOTE OF TO TALK TO KURT ABOUT. THANK YOU. IF IT WOULD BE, WE WOULDN'T WANNA RUN POWER TO IT, IT'D BE A TEMPORARY THING. 'CAUSE WE'RE REALLY ANTICIPATING GETTING ROUNDABOUT. SO WE'D LOOK AT A SOLAR, UH, TEMPORARY, WELL ONLY TOOK HOW LONG TO REROUTE THAT ONE POWER LINE. MM-HMM . . YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF POWER. BUT YEAH, SO JUST TO COMMENT, I HOPE THAT, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR EITHER A BILL PASSING OR AID UP, PUTTING IT IN THEIR OWN BUDGET AND IT BEING APPROVED, ALL THAT IS KNOWN, THE OUTCOME OF THAT IS KNOWN BEFORE WE ADOPT A BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT, UH, WE CAN CONTEMPLATE NOT JUST MATCHING THE FUNDS, BUT POTENTIALLY HAVING TO PAY FOR IT ALL OURSELF. I MEAN, I HOPE THE TIMING WORKS OUT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S ALSO A BIG PROJECT THAT HAS BIG BENEFITS, SO YOU'RE CORRECT, CHARLOTTE. AND WE WORKED WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT THE RANGER EXTINCTION CAN BE COMPILED WITH EITHER OR THE ROUNDABOUTS. UM, SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET THAT CONNECTIVITY SO IF ONE PROJECT MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO TRY TO USE THAT OTHER ONE. UM, SO WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. MM-HMM . I I WOULD THINK ALSO THAT WE COULD BUILD THE FY 27 BUDGET IN A WAY THAT ACCOUNTS FOR EITHER OF THOSE TWO POSSIBILITIES. UM, OH YEAH. RIGHT. MARK . OKAY. SO IN SUMMARY, OUR, UM, SIM OUR STRATEGY FIVE MAJOR ROADWAY CONNECTIONS FOCUS ON NETWORK CONNECTIVITY AND EMERGENCY ACCESS, NOT COMMUTER THROUGHPUT. I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED ALL OUR ITS HAS PREEMPTION. THAT WAS A REALLY KEYNOTE THAT THE LEGISLATURES AND ADOT WANTS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES ACCESS. UM, AND THAT WILL ALSO COORDINATE TO OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. SO THEY'LL HAVE PRIMARY ACCESS THROUGH THESE INTERSECTIONS WHEN WE GET, UH, GET THESE ITS SYSTEMS IMPORTANT. DO WE NEED TO MAYBE REITERATE WHAT PREEMPTION IS? I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT OR NOT. THAT'S EMERGENCY VEHICLES, ET CETERA. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S A, IT'S A DEVICE THAT WOULD BE ON AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE THAT TRIGGERS THE SIGNAL AND ALLOWS THEM TO PASS THROUGH. UM, IT CHANGES THE SIGNAL SO THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GET ACCESS. THANK YOU. UH, FISCAL 27 FUNDING ADVANCES, RANGER BREWER FOREST 89 8 CONNECTIONS, BOTH OF WHICH ARE REGIONAL PRIORITIES. AGAIN, THIS IS ALL WELL KNOWN THROUGH THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT'S GOING IN THROUGH A COMMA CONSULTANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT IDENTIFIED THESE AS IMPORTANT PROJECTS FOR NOT JUST SEDONA, BUT FOR THE VERDE VALLEY REGION. THESE PROJECTS ARE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE FOR EXTERNAL FUNDING. FISCAL YEAR 27 INVESTMENTS WILL BE STRENGTHENED. OUR, OUR GRANT, YOU GUYS APPROVED THE PARCEL CLIP LAST NIGHT. THAT'S ONE. WE HAVE TWO MORE EASEMENTS TO COMPLETE FOR SIM FIVE E, THE ROUNDABOUT 89 A. WE'RE GONNA GO KEEP PUSHING ON THOSE. SO, UM, ALL THESE GRANTS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE SHOVEL READY, WE FILL, WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY OF BEING SUCCESSFUL. SO KURT THAT ADOT ROAD SHOW THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING IN FEBRUARY 11TH. WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTATION FOR WHAT, HOW WE COULD MOVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS? ARE WE GONNA BE SPEAKING ON OUR PROJECTS OR DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK YET? YES, I'VE ATTENDED THOSE WHEN I WAS AT A O AND THAT'S GONNA TIE INTO THE STATE TRANSPORTATION MEETING THAT I'M GONNA GO TO MARICOPA ON FRIDAY, PRESENT ABOUT OUR SIM FIVE E, THE ROUNDABOUT AT 89 A. SO THE STATE TRANSPORTATION BOARD THAT WAS SUGGESTED TO US BY WENDY ROGERS, THE LEGISLATOR OF ALL OUR LEGISLATOR, HAVE WE DONE THIS AND WE HAVEN'T. SO AGAIN, IT'S A FULL PRESS FOR US TO GET OUR, THESE PROJECTS THAT WITHIN 89 A, THAT ARE NOT SIMPLY FOR THE CITY, BUT FOR THE REGION THAT'S AN APPROVED CONGESTION. WE'RE REALLY GONNA PLAY ON THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THOROUGH AFFAIRS. SO YES, WE WILL BE, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT THE PROJECT AT THAT MEETING, AND HE'S GONNA ATTEND MYSELF. AND THEN JOHN EBERS WILL ALSO ATTEND. SO WE'RE GONNA DO A FULL POINT ON THAT. TYPICALLY THE DIRECTOR, OR AT LEAST THE STATE [01:05:01] ENGINEERS ARE ON THAT ROAD TOUR, SO IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S OUR TIME TO SHINE WITH THEM. UH, IT'S IN CLARKDALE WITH THE CHECK AND AND SO ON. SO WE'RE, YES, WE PLAN TO BE THERE AND HAVE, UH, GO INTO DETAILS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR WHOLE SIM PROJECT, THE ART OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND THE DIRECTOR THAT HER PROJECT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED . SO SHE WORKED ON THE 1 79 PROJECT WAY BACK IN THE DAY, AND THAT'S WHERE I FIRST MET JENNIFER TOTH AND WE WORKED TOGETHER. SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF, EVERYTHING'S COMING AND GOING BACK IN THIS BIG CIRCLE. SO I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT OUR VOICE IS GONNA BE HEARD STATEWIDE. SO, UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE'RE INTO STRATEGY SIX. THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLE CONNECTIONS. I THINK WE'VE ALL KNOWN ABOUT THIS AS A REAL GOOD PUSH. IT WAS ONE OF THE EASIEST THAT WERE FIRST IDENTIFIED IN THE TMP, UNFORTUNATELY, THROUGH SURVEYS AND PUBLIC OUTREACH, UH, THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THIS. UM, GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. WE FEEL THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THIS FOR RIGHT AT CHAPEL. A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IDENTIFIED, THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED OF, THEY ONLY HAVE ONE INGRESS AND EGRESS. WE'RE GONNA TIE THIS AS PART OF THE FIREWISE PART OF THE INSURANCE POINT. IF YOU WON'T LET US BRING IN A ROAD, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT OUR SHARED USE PATHS. AGAIN, IT'S THAT WHOLE MULTIPLE PURPOSE EFFECT OF GOING MULTIMODAL AND SAYING, NOW WE CAN MAKE THE SHARED USE PATH 12 FOOT WIDE HAVE GATES AND CLOSURES TO ALLOW EMERGENCY EVACUATION, BUT ALSO ALLOW EMERGENCY INGRESS EGRESS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. SO THOSE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PREPARED TO PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY TO, AGAIN, ADDRESS THE FIREWISE EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND GIVE PEOPLE ALTERNATIVES. IT'S THE LOWEST COST AND THE BEST VALUE THAT WE THINK WE CAN PREVENT, UH, OR PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC FOR OUR TOWN HALLS. CORRECT. I WOULD SUGGEST FISCAL 29 IS PRETTY FAR OUT. I MEAN, 28 MAYBE JUST, WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. BARBARA, DID YOU TAKE A NOTE THERE? SO, YEAH, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE PUSHED BACK TO US IF WE DON'T KEEP THE STAY AHEAD OF IT AND, AND OUTREACH THAT IT'S ALL INTERCONNECTED. AND AGAIN, I I THINK TO, TO ANDY'S POINT EARLIER, IF WE BRING THE COMMUNITY IN AND THEY HEAR, INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THINGS, THEY HEAR THE PLANS, THEY MAY BE LESS RESISTANCE. MM-HMM . IT MAY NOT BE AS TERRIBLE AS THEY THINK IT WOULD BE. YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS STRATEGY, I THINK IT, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF VALUE IN REEVALUATING HOW WE APPROACH IT. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS ARE DIFFERENT TODAY THAN THEY WERE BACK WHEN WE FIRST APPROACHED THIS STRATEGY AS FAR AS DESIRE FOR EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND EXACTLY MULTIMODAL EMBRACEMENT AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, SO I DEFINITELY THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, UM, PROJECTS HERE, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF 89, A FEAR ABOUT EVACUATION NOW, AS OPPOSED TO FEAR ABOUT VEHICLES ON THEIR STREET. RIGHT. IF THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A CONNECTION THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. ANDY AND I, I AGREE. WE ALL THINK THE CITY, UM, THE COMMUNITIES AT A PIVOT POINT OF JUST ABOUT ADOPTING SIM AND THE SHARED USE PATH STEPS PROGRAM, AS ANDY CAN ATTEST, WE HAD PEOPLE WHO WERE ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT, AND NOW THEY'RE A BIG ADVOCATE. AND SANDY CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO SIM 11, THE STEPS PROGRAM. SO YES, WE'RE WINNING HEARTS AND MINDS. UH, SO IN SUMMARY, STRATEGY SIX, NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLE CONNECTIONS OR TRADITIONAL VEHICLE, NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS REMAIN PAUSED DUE TO RESIDENT FEEDBACK. THE STRATEGY HAS INVOLVED SHARED USE PATHS ARE NOW PREFERRED EMERGENCY IN EGRESS SOLUTION. UH, THERE'S NO AGGRESSIVE FISCAL YEAR 27 CONSTRUCTION IS PROPOSED. THIS REFLECTS COMMUNITY DRIVEN POLICY REFINEMENT, UM, NOT INACTION. SO WE'RE, WE'RE ON PAUSE, BUT WE'RE STILL PUSHING, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE SEE THE VALUE IN IT. UM, AGAIN, I, I MENTIONED FIREWISE IS ON THAT. UH, SO NOW WE'RE IN STRATEGY SEVEN. THIS IS OUR ENHANCED TRANSIT SERVICE. THIS IS REALLY, UM, AMBER IN TRANSIT. I'LL FEEL FOR HER FOR COMMUNICATION. BUT AMBER OR DAVID, PLEASE, UM, HELP YOURSELF IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS. AMBER, IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF THESE STRATEGIES THAT ARE ON THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION, [01:10:01] I'M GONNA GO INTO THEM MORE IN DEPTH, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S, HOW THE STRATEGIES ARE LAID OUT ARE THEN WE IMPLEMENTED AND ADOPTED THE SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. AND THOSE ARE LAID OUT IN PHASES. SO I'M GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF THESE STRATEGIES AND HOW THEY'RE RELATED TO THE ACTUAL TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. SO THEY'LL BE MORE INFORMATION FROM ME ON THESE AFTER KURT GIVES THIS PRESENTATION. SO TRANSIT CAN, IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, I CAN PROVIDE THE UPDATE WITH MY PRESENTATION PORTION, LIKE IT'S SLIDE 36. THANKS, AMBER. YEAH, SO I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES. UH, THEN THERE'S THE ENHANCED TRANSIT SERVICE AND TOURISM. AGAIN, THIS WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE TMP. THERE WE GO. THEN AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE WITH OUR STATUS, PROGRESS AND POLICY. AND THEN THERE'S NINE NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLES TOURISM FOCUS. IT'S WITHIN THE TMP. HERE'S THE STATUS. AND I CAN GO THROUGH A HIGHLIGHT OF JUST WHAT I'VE FOUND IS THE TRANSIT INFORMATION IS MATURING, MOVING FROM LAUNCH TO REFINEMENT. FISCAL YEAR 27. PRIORITIES ARE FOCUSED ON OPTIMIZING EXISTING SERVICES, PREPARING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FUTURE PHASES. YOU'RE ON SUM 10. SORRY. WELL, LET'S LEAVE THE TRANSIT FOR AMBER, IF YOU COULD PLEASE. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING I HAVE A SUMMARY OF THAT IF THEY WANTED TO. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. SO HERE'S 10 AGAIN, WHAT WAS IN STATE ROUTE 89 WEST SEDONA ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IN HERE THE, UH, DRIVEWAY CONSOLIDATION THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL TMP PLAN. AGAIN, IN, UM, I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. AS PART OF THE VERDE VALLEY, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UM, THEY ADDRESS THAT AS WELL OF WHAT WE CAN DO IN WEST SEDONA VERSUS UPTOWN WAS THAT, UH, A BIG POINT. AND THEN IT APPLIED CURBING A PARKWAY. UM, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN IT ALSO INCLUDED THE SIGNALIZATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE NOW COORDINATING WITH A DOT. SO THESE, THIS FIRST ONE, WEST 89 A ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND ADAPTIVE SIGNALS THAT'S ON ADOT ROADS. YES, MA'AM. WE, WE FEEL WE WANTED TO PUT THIS IN HERE IN CASE ADOT BACKED OUT OR DID NOT DELIVER, LIKE, UM, COUNSELOR CHARLOTTE MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD THEN IMPLEMENT AS OUR, WELL, BECAUSE WE FEEL IT'S A, A LOWER COST THAT WILL PROVIDE HIGH VALUE AND RELIEVING OVERALL CONGESTION. AND REMEMBER, WE WILL HAVE OUR Y ADAPTIVE SIGNALS IN. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FULLY TO INCORPORATE THAT, UM, SIGNALIZATION THROUGH THE WHOLE, UH, STATE ROUTE 89 A CORRIDOR. AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT, OR TELL US WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN. YES, I JUST TALKED TO MY CONTACT IN TSMO. THAT'S, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND MAINTENANCE. THEY HAVE THE $500,000 THEY ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE CABINETS, THOUGH THAT WORK SHOULD BE STARTING HERE IN MARCH, THAT THEY'LL GO IN AND UPDATE THE CABLES. WE'LL BE COORDINATING, I'M PLANNING A COLLABORATION PLANNING WITH THEM THAT WITH FIBER OPTICS. SO IF THEY CAN'T GET THE, UH, BROADBAND FROM THE EXISTING SYSTEM, WE WOULD LIKE TO MATCH WITH THEM ON GETTING THAT, UM, BROADBAND FIBER TO MEET THEIR NEEDS TO DO THIS, UM, MYO VISION AND WITH THE PREEMPTION, WITH ALL THE SAFETY QUARTERS AND SO ON. SO THIS, THIS MONEY WAS SOMETHING I, I WANTED TO FIGHT FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT TO GIVE US THAT ALTERNATIVES. IF WE DON'T USE THAT, WELL, THEN WE CAN USE IT FOR OTHER BIG MULTIMODAL TRANSIT, ALL THESE OTHER ASPECTS. BUT THIS IS A, JUST A PLACEHOLDER FOR US. IF ADOT DOESN'T DELIVER, THEN THE CITY CAN. ONE OTHER, UH, MAIN ASPECT TO THIS STRATEGY IS, IS REGARDING THE, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. SO IT'S LOOKING AT THE 89 A CORRIDOR AND THE NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS THAT WE HAVE. SO THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR IS, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS FOR HOW MUCH DISTANCE WE HAVE THERE. SO PART OF THIS STRATEGY IS LOOKING AT LIKE WHAT WE DID AT STARBUCKS, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THAT REDEVELOPED, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, THEIR ACCESS COMES OFF OF KOF PLACE. MM-HMM . SO THEY'RE, THEY USED TO HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS RIGHT AT THE FRONTAGE. WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE OUT AS PART OF THAT REDEVELOPMENT [01:15:01] THAT REDUCES FRICTION AND ADDS CAPACITY BACK TO THE, TO THE HIGHWAY. SO WHENEVER WE GET ADDITIONAL REDEVELOPMENT ALONG THE CORRIDOR, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. AND TONY AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY'RE OUTREACHING WITH THE BUSINESSES TO ADDRESS THE SAME POINT. UM, THAT WAS THE HOUSING QUESTIONS YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO A FULL FRONT ON THIS. AND THIS IS ALSO PART OF EXPANDING MULTIMODAL, WHICH WAS THE SHARED USE PATH. UM, THAT'S, UM, AT GRADE SEPARATED. THEN ALSO EXPANDING THE BICYCLE ALONG A PATH TO MAKE 'EM WIDER AND MORE SAFETY PART OF THOSE GREEN STREETS, UH, PROGRAM. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN WEST 89 A THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TMP. SO AS YOUR DIRECTION, AS YOU'RE PULLING FROM UPTOWN FOR HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE GOING TO OUTSIDE FUNDING, WE WERE AT YOUR REQUEST TO TRY TO PUT MORE EFFORT INTO WEST SEDONA. IT KIND OF GOES WITH THE WHOLE WESTERN GATEWAY, ALL THESE, SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S TOO WEEDY AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, WHERE ALCHEMIST IS GONNA GO IN AT, IS IT GOOD ROW RIGHT NEXT TO THE WILD, RIGHT? UM, THERE'S THAT LITTLE ROAD. IS THAT GOOD ROAD? YES. IT'S AN EXTENSION. HAS, HAS IT, IS IT CLEAR NOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE? IS IT GONNA BE JUST A RIGHT TURN, ONLY LEFT TURN FROM THERE? IS THERE GONNA BE A DRIVEWAY OFF OF I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. I'M SORRY. OKAY. I DUNNO IF , UH, COUNCILOR HOSNI, I BELIEVE, UM, STAFF IS STILL NEGOTIATING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THAT DEVELOPER AND WHAT ALL OF THAT IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. IS THAT NOT RIGHT? REALLY? SURE. I THINK YOU'VE, I THINK THEY'RE COMING FORWARD WITH, I KIND OF THINK YOU'VE SIGNED A DEVELOPMENT. AREN'T THEY STILL GETTING ALL OF THAT HAMMERED OUT WITH THE HIGHWAY ACCESS AND TURN LANES AND WELL THEN CAN YOU, BECAUSE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ONLY DEALS WITH THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE UNITS MM-HMM . AND THE, AND IT'S ALREADY SIGNED RENTALS. RIGHT. IT DOESN'T CURRENTLY TOUCH ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE HIGHWAY YEAH. OR, UH, ROADWAY ACCESS. SO THE, WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU THEN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I'M SORRY. BUT, UM, OH, WE JUST SUGGESTED IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSOLIDATION AND IMPROVEMENT THERE. I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME FUNKY STUFF GOING ON. THAT'S TRUE. MELISSA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I WAS JUST GONNA POINT OUT THAT IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN PAST WHERE THEY'RE GOING IN ON GOODROW, THEY'VE ALREADY BROKEN GROUND, THERE'S HUGE PILES OF DEBRIS AS, AS THEY'RE DIGGING A VERY BIG HOLE. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM, I'D BE SURPRISED. MM-HMM . WELL, I THINK YOU DO, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT REGARDING AFFORDABILITY. I THINK THAT'S FOR ALCHEMIST. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT CHARLOTTE WAS SPEAKING TO. OH, OKAY. SO CHANGING TO THE NEXT ONE, TO THE SIM 10 A, UM, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE MORE SPECIFICALLY AS OPPOSED TO IN PROGRESS? WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? WHEN WOULD, WHEN WOULD COUNCIL BE LOOKING AT THAT? BECAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, FROM LITTLE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD OR WHATEVER, I, I, I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE SOME CONTROVERSY ABOUT DESIGN. I'D LIKE TO GET AHEAD OF CONTROVERSY INSTEAD OF HAVING SOMETHING COME AND THEN BOOM, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENCE, YOU KNOW, NOT UNDERSTANDING A PROPOSAL OR BEING UNHAPPY ABOUT A PROPOSAL. SO WHERE IS THIS? 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT, NOT JUST ON TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM FURTHER UP DRY CREEK ROAD, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL, THE LIBRARY AND THE COMMERCIAL, UM, BUSINESSES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF IMPACT ON A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT AND WHEN CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? THE CITY'S, UH, TMP IDENTIFIED IN 2018, THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER. I'M SORRY, I I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. SO THE 10 A, YEAH, 10 A IS THE WHITE BEAR. TWO HIGHWAY, OH PROJECT, I'M SORRY, SIM 10 A TRAFFIC CALMING AND SUP WHITE BEARED OPINION, WHICH MEANS DRY CREEK ROAD. RIGHT. THAT'S IN DESIGN STILL THAT WE'RE HAVING TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH RIGHT AWAY AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE DOING THE STORM DRAIN ANALYSIS, SO IT'S STILL IN DESIGN. ONCE WE CAN COME FORWARD ON THE DESIGN AND WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS, 'CAUSE WE'RE INCORPORATING STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT THE DESIGN [01:20:01] GETS TOO FAR AHEAD AND THAT IT'S PRESENTED AS F ACCOMPLI WITHOUT GETTING THE INPUT OR THE ABILITY TO MAKE ANY ADAPTION THAT WE MAY WANT TO IN RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY. UM, YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY, UH, SENSITIVE PROJECT. THAT'S ONE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COUNCIL CHAMPION ON AND BRING THEM IN EARLY AS WELL. BUT IT'S ALSO ON MY RADAR TO GET INTO IT EARLY AND, AND JUST, WE'RE STILL VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN, AND THERE ARE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS THERE THAT ABSOLUTELY NEED A, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO DEAL WITH IN TERMS OF CURVATURE AND SIDEWALK ACCESS. UM, BUT, BUT AGAIN, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED BY THAT, THAT I EXPECT THERE WILL BE A BIG RESPONSE. SO I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF THE GAME. YEAH, I DON'T EITHER. I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. WE HAVE JOHN EBERS HERE. UM, I DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE. , COUNCILOR KINSELLA, WE HAVE JOHN EBERS, HE'S OUR PM HE CAN ADD MORE DETAIL INFORMATION. YEAH, SO WE HAVE A DESIGN, IT'S FAIRLY, PARTS OF IT ARE FAIRLY FAR ALONG. WE'RE DEALING WITH DRAINAGE ISSUES IN ADJACENT PROPERTIES AT DRY CREEK NEAR 89 A. UM, AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED EASEMENTS AND PROPERTY THAT WE NEED TO ACQUIRE SO THAT WE CAN FINISH WELL SO THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION. BUT THE DESIGN'S NOT COMPLETE YET. AT THIS POINT. IT'S NOT COMPLETE. BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR CHIME IN IS A PREVIEW OF THAT BEFORE IT GETS TOO FAR OUT. YEAH. BECAUSE YES, I THINK IT'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, GO FOR THE EASEMENTS, BUT DOES THAT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THERE'S MORE AFFECTED THAN, THAN THE PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST STAKEHOLDERS, BUT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS HOLDERS BECAUSE USERSHIP OF THAT CORRIDOR IS SO COMMUNITY INCLUSIVE. YES, YES. TOTALLY AGREE. WE WILL DO AN OUTREACH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S OUR SIM UPDATE. YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE, BECAUSE JOHN IS EARLY TO OUR TEAM HERE, HE'S GETTING INTO THAT EARLY ON DESIGN PART OF THE PROJECT. AND SO YEAH, THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF PRE-WORK, BUT WE DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE A PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS, INCLUDING IN THE DESIGN. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO, UM, FINISH UP ON OUR STRATEGY, UM, SUMMARY. MY HIGHLIGHTS ARE, UM, FISCAL YEAR 27 MARKS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT YEAR FOR WEST SEDONA ACCESS AND ADAPTIVE SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE. UH, PROJECTS ARE COORDINATING WITH ADOT, NAAG, VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ENSURING REGIONAL CONSISTENCY OF WHAT OUR PROJECTS ENTAIL. THESE IMPROVEMENTS DIRECTLY ADDRESS SAFETY, ACCESS MANAGEMENT, AND NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, LIVABILITY. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS DEMONSTRATES THE PIVOT TO INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS THAT FOLLOWS OUR, THE SIM FOUR FROM Y ROUNDABOUT ALL THE WAY TO OUR STRATEGY 12, WHICH ARE, IS OUR TRAVELER INFORMATION IN THIS CORRIDOR. SO SANDY, IF YOU WANNA COME AND JOIN ME, WE'RE INTO OUR SIM 11 PROGRAM. THIS IS WHAT IDENTIFIED IT IN THE TMP ON THIS SLIDE. AND, UM, THESE ARE ABOUT OUR PART OF OUR UPDATES. UM, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY AGAIN ON OUR SUCCESS AND HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DELIVER ON THE SHARED USE PATH. AND GO AHEAD. OKAY. KEEP GOING. UM, SO WE'VE GOT 30 MILES APPROXIMATELY, WERE PLANNED FROM THE GO PLAN THAT WAS, UM, COMPLETED IN 2020. AND WE'VE COMPLETED A LITTLE OVER 11 MILES. AND, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING 1.2 MILES TO, FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND THERE'S THREE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR FY 27. THE BREWER ROAD HAS A GRANT. WE JUST RECEIVED THE IGA FROM A DOT WILL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU. IT'S, UM, THE MATCH IS 5.7%. SO WE'RE GETTING 2.6 MILLION FOR OUR MATCH OF A HUNDRED AND ABOUT 160. SO THAT'LL BE ON YOUR AGENDA HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF FEBRUARY, IF NOT EARLY MARCH. SHELBY, UM, IS, THAT'S GOING TO, THE BID OPENING IS THIS FRIDAY FOR THAT ALSO AS A GRANT. AND THEN WE ARE REQUESTING, WE'LL BRING IT BEFORE YOU, WE WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR WHAT'S CALLED A BUILD GRANT FOR COFFEE POT. THAT IS A, A PROJECT SHARED USE PATH PROJECT THAT'S GONNA COMPLETE A LOOP. WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THAT IN PLACE. IT'S GOT SOME DANGEROUS, UM, SECTIONS. IT'S STEEP AND, UM, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT. DO YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? YEAH, THAT'S ALL JANUARY 27TH [01:25:02] TOO. SO WE'LL BE PREPARING THAT FOR YOU. SO HERE'S JUST, UM, SOME OF THE, THE GO PLAN DID IDENTIFY PRIORITY PROJECTS. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE ALL COMPLETE. UH, GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE. AND THEN, UM, THIS LISTS THE OTHER PROJECTS AGAIN. UM, BREWER ROAD SHARED AND THE SHELBY FOR FY 27. GO AHEAD. GO NEXT. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE WOULD LIKE TO START, UM, AND COMPLETE THE THUNDER MOUNTAIN SANBORN TO POSSE GROUNDS PARK. SO WE'D LIKE TO START LOOKING AT THE ZANE GRAY GUN FURY ALIGNMENT AND BEGIN DESIGN ON THAT. AND ALSO, UM, VODI, NOW THAT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE HAD THE STATE LAND, UH, EASEMENT UNDERNEATH THE A PS POWER POLES. WE'D LIKE TO COMPLETE THAT LOOP AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE PROJECTS. ONLY A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'VE PLANNED FOR SIM 11. I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, WE'VE UPDATED SIM 11 Y THE THUNDER MOUNTAIN TWO SUP, THAT'S PART OF, UM, NCOS OUR ROTATION FOR THEM TO, UM, FULLY FUND THAT PROJECT. THERE'S NO MATCH. I WAS THINKING THERE WAS A, OH, I THINK THERE'S A MATCH. YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S A MATCH THERE. THERE'S A LOCAL MATCH, BUT THAT'S A, A FUNDING ROTATION PROJECT THAT GOES THROUGH NACOG FROM EACH ONE OF ITS MEMBERS. OH. AND COOKS HILL IS SOMETHING WE WERE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT FOR FY 27. I KNOW THAT WAS IMPORTANT. YEAH, THAT'S, SO THAT'S ON THIS SLIDE. YEAH. 300,000 FOR COOKS HILL. AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT, UH, JORDAN ROAD JUST BECAUSE WE'VE, UM, WORKED ON THAT VIEW, WALK ALONG THE CORRIDOR INTO UPTOWN. WE'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE THAT OR CONTINUE THAT UP TO THE MUSEUM. WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT LOOP. AND ALSO TIE IN THE RANGER STATION PARK. THAT'S PART OF OUR OUTREACH FOR THE VIEW WALK. AND NOW THERE'S A HISTORY WALK THAT'S ALL PART OF OUR STEPS PLANS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT. UM, WORK GROUP. TWO, TWO QUESTIONS. UH, ONE, THE RIGBY ME, UM, NINE POINT SOMETHING ACRES THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, THAT ONE, UM, HAD A, UH, SHARED USE PATH GOING THROUGH IT AS PART OF THE PLAN. CORRECT. UM, HOOKUP BEHIND SAFEWAY OR WHATEVER IT WAS. UM, IS THAT DEAD IN THE WATER? UNLESS, UNLESS THE, THAT PIECE OF LAND SELLS? DOES THE CURRENT OWNER NOT, NOT WILLING TO, HE'S WILLING TO PUT IT IN A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, BUT HE'S NOT WILLING TO LET IT OCCUR UNLESS THE LAND IS SOLD OR WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? SO WE APPROACHED HIM, UM, IN AN ATTEMPT TO ACQUIRE AN EASEMENT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, ASIDE FROM ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. AND AT THE TIME WHAT THEY REQUESTED FOR, UH, A COST FOR THAT EASEMENT WAS WELL BEYOND WHAT WE WERE WILLING TO PAY. MM-HMM . SO IT, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE OPEN TO IT. IT'S JUST FOR A PRICE THAT THE CITY WASN'T WILLING TO PAY. SO IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE, UM, AT THIS POINT, WITHOUT THE PROPERTY SELLING, IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ISSUE AND A SEPARATE DEAL. RIGHT. SEPARATE PROJECT IF MM-HMM . IF, IF THERE WASN'T A DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE IT WITH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S TRUE. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, UH, FALLS UNDER YOUR GROUP OR NOT, BUT BACK TO UPTOWN AND BACK TO A FOREST ROAD AND THE PARKING GARAGE, I THOUGHT PART OF THE PLAN ALSO WAS TO HAVE A SHARED USE PATH GOING UP FOREST. YES. SO THAT WAS PART OF, I MENTIONED THAT DURING THAT SLIDE. DID YOU? OKAY. THAT WAS THE FORCED EXTENSION. OH, OKAY. UM, AND I THINK BOB'S HERE WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THAT CARRYOVER. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SHARED USE PATHS ALONG FOREST, SO YOU CAN WALK AND BIKE EASILY FROM THE PARKING GARAGE TO UPTOWN. AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, CONTEMPORANEOUS WITH THE PARKING GARAGE BEING FINISHED. IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S GONNA FOLLOW, IT'S GONNA FOLLOW IT. WE'RE TRYING TO TIE IT IN AS QUICKLY AS THE GARAGE IS FINISHED. OKAY. AND, AND THEN THAT'S GONNA FINISH THE FULL PAVEMENT, UH, PRESERVATION OF FOREST ROAD. SO NOW IT'S GETTING ALL, UM, BASICALLY DECORATED AND USED IN THE CONSTRUCTION SO THAT, WITH THAT PROJECT, AND THEN WE'LL PUT A NEW SURFACE ON YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT HERE BEHIND ME. AND PART OF THAT INCLUDES THE IDEA OF MOVING THE CROSSWALK. UM, YES. RIGHT. CORRECT. UP TO THE NORTH. THAT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE? NO, THAT WOULD BE THE EAST, THE WEST SIDE, WEST SIDE OF GRAND OF HYATT? NO, JUST THE CROSSWALK THAT EXISTS. YOU JUST MOVING IT TO THE OTHER CURB AT VAN DAREN, RIGHT? YEAH. YES. AT VAN DAREN. YEAH. YEAH. [01:30:01] AND THAT IS PART OF IT, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. GOOD IDEA. . UM, BUT THAT'S OKAY. BRIAN. OKAY, GO AHEAD. ARE YOU FINISHED? NO, I JUST WANNA SAY IT'S ABOUT $4 MILLION. WE'RE ASKING TO CONTINUE ON OUR SHARED USE PATH. AGAIN, THAT'S OUR MULTIMODAL, IT WAS A BIG OUTPUT IN THE TMP, WHICH WAS MULTIMODAL TRANSIT AND STEPS PROGRAM. SO IT ASSUMES THAT WE WOULD NOT GET THE GRANT FOR COFFEE POT. OKAY. SO QUESTION ON COOKS HILL. WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GETTING FOR THE 300 K? IS THAT JUST DESIGN. DESIGN? OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE? JUST GOING BACK ONE BACK, NOT FORWARD. OOPS. SORRY. YOU'RE GOING FORWARD. SO THE, UH, VODI TWO. MM-HMM . WHAT, WHAT PIECE IS THAT? FROM WHERE IT ENDS AT DELEO RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM . AND GOES AS FAR AS WHAT? 2 89 A SO THROUGH THE STATE LAND, THE RADIO STATION TO NINE A OR JUST TO NODE TO NODE? THERE'S ALREADY SOME SIDEWALK THERE. RIGHT. AND WE CAN WIDEN IT, BUT TIE INTO NOVO. OKAY. AND THEN THREE AND FOUR ARE WHAT? WIDENING NOVO OR GO UP, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY TO BRISTOL CONE. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE WIDENING THE SIDEWALK. OKAY. THAT'S ALSO PRIVATE THROUGH PORTIONS. AND SO THAT'S MUCH LATER. THAT'S DOES LIKE FOUR. CAN I TAG ON WITH THAT BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE NET TO THE NEXT ONE? I'M ON. OKAY. I'M STILL ON IT. UH, SO WHAT ABOUT THE SECTION OF VODI THAT IS ON HILTON PROPERTY? YEAH. THAT DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALK CURRENTLY. THAT'S IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S BEST. SO THAT'S, SO IT'S ALSO, THAT'S LIKE NOT NUMBER PHASE FOUR MM-HMM . OR ANYTHING. MM-HMM . WELL, IT'S 29 FY, 29, 20 30. SO IT'S IN THE FUTURE. SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THAT IN PLACE, COMPLETE THOSE LOOPS AS WELL. OKAY. AND THE 200 K FOR NEXT YEAR IS JUST DESIGNED ALSO FOR THAT PIECE? THE 200 IS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, LEAVE U SO THAT'S THROUGH STATE LAND. OH. 'CAUSE IT'S SO SIMPLE TO DO. MM-HMM . KIND OF KINDA LIKE THE LITTLE PIECE DOWN TO LITTLE HORSE. YEAH. HOW EASY. THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M CONFUSED, REALLY CONFUSED BY THIS. I THOUGHT WE WERE AVOIDING RIM STONE. I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT TRYING TO GO THROUGH RIM STONE. I, I WAS VERY CLOSE TO JUMPING IN THERE. I, WHEN WE, WHEN WE TIE DOWN AN ACTUAL ALIGNMENT, I THINK WE NEED TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE OPTIONS, UM, THAT WE COULD TAKE TO GET FROM ONE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE OTHER THAT WOULD BE LESS IMPACTFUL. SO REALLY, I THINK THE PROJECT INTENT IS TO GET FROM, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE OTHER. HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT WOULD BE THE LESS LEAST IMPACTFUL THAT WE COULD FIND. BECAUSE THERE IS A SIDEWALK THERE AND THE HOMES GO RIGHT UP TO THE SIDEWALK. PRETTY CLOSE. YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND THEY'RE A, THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I, I WORKED WITH THEM WHEN WE REBUILT THE INTERSECTION THERE AT CADEL SOUL INDE. AND I FULLY APPRECIATE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. YES. SO I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT IDEAS UP MY SLEEVE ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT IT WON'T BE SIMPLE. SO, CAN YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE DID THAT, THAT YOU CAME UP WITH A PRIORITY POINTS SYSTEM? THE MATRIX MATRIX? YEAH. CAN WE DO THAT AGAIN WITH THESE? WE'LL, WE WILL, YEAH. DEFINITELY. SIM UPDATE. THESE ARE ALL PRIORITY PROJECTS. WE'VE, UM, KNOCKED OFF THE MAJORITY OF THAT VERY HIGH PRIORITY PROJECT. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO THE NEXT TIER. BUT WE'RE STILL, THE GOAL IS STAY AT THOSE TOP TIER AND COMPLETE LOOPS AND GET GRANTS WHERE WE CAN. I'D, I'D ALSO LOVE TO BRING IN THE CHAMPIONS FOR THIS AREA, WHICH I'VE HEARD A CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBER SAY THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS. WHO'S NOT HERE? WELL, HE ALSO, OR WHO ALSO, BUT ACTUALLY, UH, HE'S STARING AT ME. . OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS AREA THAT I WOULD LOVE TO START WORKING WITH. UH, IN CLOSING, I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, DON'T FORGET, WE STILL, I HAVE ADDRESSED INFILL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU FOLKS AS OUR CHAMPIONS ALSO IN OUR STEPS FOR SHADE STRUCTURES FOR ALL THOSE. WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THAT NOW. AND IN 27, WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE, WE COULD START INFILLING THAT. SO WE'RE GONNA START MEETING THAT NEED AS YOU'RE LOOKING TO SEE. AND THEN I ALSO REMIND COUNCIL, WE APPLIED FOR [01:35:01] TWO FLAT PROJECTS, UM, THE WESTERN GATEWAY, UH, AT CULTURAL PARK FOR THE SHARED USE PATH, UM, THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AS PART OF THE FOREST SERVICE IMPROVEMENT OF GERDNER TRAILHEAD. AND THEN WE HAD THE SHIBLEY HILL. SO AS THESE THINGS MOVE, HOPEFULLY WE'RE SUCCESSFUL. WE'LL FIND OUT. UM, I THINK THE AWARD IS, UH, AMBER, REMEMBER, I THINK IT'S MAY IT MAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIND OUT THROUGH AWARD, HOPEFULLY YOU GET WON. HOPEFULLY BOTH. THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THIS AS WELL. AGAIN, THAT'S THE NO COST TO THE CITY. WE'RE A STAKEHOLDER. WE WORKING WITH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS AND DELIVERING THAT PROJECT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT HERE BECAUSE IT'S UNKNOWN. AND OUR STRATEGY 12, THAT'S THE TRAVELER INFORMATION. THIS IS WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN A, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. THESE ARE OUR TWO, OUR PROJECT. WE HAVE THE OAK CREEK SIGN. IT'S COMPLETE. UM, AND IN PROGRESS IS THE ADOT PROJECT. UH, PREVIOUS BUDGETS, WE HAD $50,000. WE WERE GONNA CONTRIBUTE TO ADOT. THEY DIDN'T NEED IT. UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN, UM, TRAVELING INFORMATION AS PART OF THE FLEX LANES ALONG I 17 CORRIDOR. THE LAST TIME I MET WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER, THEY SHOULD BE BREAKING GROUND THE END OF THIS MONTH AT THE OFF RAMP ON THE NORTHBOUND I 17 AT GENERAL CROOK TRAIL. THAT'S WHERE THAT BIG DYNAMIC MESSAGE BOARD. SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING TO SEDONA, IT'LL ALLOW THOSE, UH, UH, DRIVERS TO EITHER TAKE, UM, CAMP VERDE COTTONWOOD 2 60 89 A VERSUS, UM, STATE ROUTE 1 79. SO THAT'S HAPPENING. AND THAT THAT'LL BE COMPLETED BY, UM, NEXT FALL. THE WHOLE PROJECT. WE HOPE THAT MESSAGE DYNAMIC BOARD, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO TELL ME ACTUALLY WHEN THAT BOARD'S GONNA BE LIT UP AND ACTUALLY WORKING. THEY DON'T KNOW YET. THEY GOTTA BUILD IT, BUT ALL THAT IS PART OF THE, UH, FIBER OPTICS OF THE I 17 CORRIDOR THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THE FLEX LANES AT BLACK CANYON CITY. BUT THE WHOLE PROJECT IS GOING THROUGH, IS IT THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR? YES. SO BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR, IT SHOULD BE COMPLAINT. YEAH. I'M, I'M, I'M PRESSING THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT OURS, IF IT'S INSTALLED, GET IT WORKING. I DON'T WANT IT SITTING THERE DARK FOR MONTHS UNTIL THE WHOLE PROJECT IS ON. AND THEY SAID YES, THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN, I'M ASSUMING THEN THIS SUMMER. BUT IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO FLAGSTAFF, TO BLACK CANYON CITY AS THEIR PROJECTS FOR THAT, THAT ROLE COORDINATION. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY WAY TO MEASURE WHETHER THAT'S BE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT FOR ADA? THE SIGNS FOR US, I, I KNOW YOU SAY YOU'VE SEEN IT, BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS TWO 60 IS FASTER THAN 1 79. REALLY? I HAVE PHOTOS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM. YEAH, I THINK NO, I KNOW, BUT I I'VE NEVER SEEN IT. SO IS THERE, DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS HELPING US? WELL, ONE THING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO IS AN UPDATED ORIGIN DESTINATION STUDY THAT SHOWS THE SPLIT POST IMPROVEMENT VERSUS PRE MM-HMM . I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'LL SEE THE IMPROVEMENT SHOW UP. MORE PEOPLE WILL USE THE TWO 60 ROUTE THAT THAN DID BEFORE. YEAH. I WISH IT WOULD SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ENCHANTMENT, USE TWO 60 BECAUSE THEY MEASURE IT IN UPTOWN IT'S MEASURES TO THE Y YEAH. AT THE Y. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO WEST SEDONA, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT, THAT IS A DOWNSIDE TO THAT. RIGHT. YEAH. I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO POSIT THE IDEA THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT SAYS, IF THEY'RE HEADED FOR THE, UM, THE RED ROCK HIGHWAY, THE SCENIC HIGHWAY MM-HMM . THEY'RE GOING TO USE 1 79. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT TAKES LONGER OR NOT. RIGHT. AND SO WE CAN'T MEASURE THAT. SO WE CAN'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE TIME BECAUSE THEY HAD THE BYWAY IN THEIR HEADS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO. DARN IT. SO, UM, YEAH. BUT I HAVE SEEN IT SOMETIMES SAY THE TWO SIXTY'S FASTER. WE ALWAYS ASSUME THAT 1 79 ISN'T FASTER. AS A REMINDER, THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSFER PLANT IS REALLY IN DEPTH IN THE WHOLE REGIONAL, HOW TRAFFIC IS MOVING BETWEEN ALL THE COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY, THEY'RE GONNA REALLY FOCUS ON, UH, THE TRAVELER INFORMATION FOR THAT. SO IN SUMMARIES, UH, THE INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS REMAIN A COST EFFECTIVE CONGESTION MANAGEMENT TOOL. FISCAL YEAR 27 CONTINUES INCREMENTAL DEPLOYMENT AND COORDINATION WITH ADOT. UH, THE FOCUS IS A REAL TIME INFORMATION WAYFINDING, OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. IT'S NOT A LARGE CAPITAL EXPANSION STRATEGY. AND, UH, THIS IS STRATEGY 13. IT'S REALLY BEEN NOT PART OF US. [01:40:02] YEAH, I'M READY. BACK . IT'S REALLY NOT BEEN PART OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE INCLUDED. IT'S IN THE, OUR TMP, IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AGAIN IN THE VERDE, UM, VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. I MADE SURE ON ALL OUR NOTES THAT IT WAS IN INCLUDED IN OUR CONCERNS AS A CITY AND ALSO YAVAPAI COUNTIES. OKAY. HOLD ON. KURT . I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, UM, I'M GEARING UP. COULD I CLARIFY THAT? GO AHEAD, ANDY. CIRCUMVENTED . WELL, WHAT WE ASKED, UH, TO BE INCLUDED IN THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS NOT SPECIFICALLY A POINT LOCATION OF A CROSSING. IT WAS A CONNECTION BETWEEN WEST SEDONA AND THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY. SO IT'S MORE GENERAL THAN WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AS STRATEGY 13. RIGHT. THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT CONCERNED ME WAS THAT IT SAYS RED ROCK CROSSING WHEN I KNEW THAT WE HAD, UM, GIVEN CLEAR DIRECTION IN DECEMBER OF 2024, UM, TO PURSUE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS. SO IT'S OVER A YEAR, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE GAVE THAT DIRECTION. SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS COULD GET UPDATED SO THERE'S NOT CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE. AND SECONDLY, TO SEE IT AS POLICY DIRECTION HOLD IS CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE GAVE DIRECTION AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN BRINGING IT UP AT THE VERDE VALLEY REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY SUCCESS AS A RESULT OF YOUR BRINGING IT UP. UM, NOT DUE TO YOU, BUT, UM, WE NEED SOME UPDATE ON THIS. WE, WE, WE NEED, AND COMMUNITY NEEDS, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW WHERE THIS IS. IS ANYBODY LOOKING AT IT? ARE WE, HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THE THREE, FOUR SPOTS THAT ARE POTENTIAL, UH, FOR CROSSINGS THAT, THAT COULD CONNECT THESE ENDS OF THE CITY OR BEYOND OUTSIDE THOSE ENDS? UM, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S, THERE'S THAT INFORMATION HERE OF WHERE WE ARE. AND I, I NEED, WE NEED AN UPDATE ON THIS. YEAH. SO, SO FAR THE ONLY PRIORITY THAT WE'VE BEEN DIRECTED TO MAKE IS TO IDENTIFY IT AS A FUTURE CONNECTION PROJECT, DISCUSS THAT WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, WHICH WE'VE DONE THOSE THINGS. BUT IF WE WANT TO TAKE THAT TO A NEXT STEP, THAT WOULD BE A NEW PROJECT. UM, GOING INTO THE NEXT TAKE TO THE NEXT STEP WILL ENTAIL WHAT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HAVE, WE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF US HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL PLACES TO BE EXPLORED, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY EXPLORATION HAS HAPPENED IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE EVEN FEASIBLE, SUCH AS OFF OF SUNSET OR SHELBY OR RED ROCK OR AIRPORT, OR THIS IS OVER A YEAR THAT THIS HASN'T ADVANCED WELL, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A IDENTIFIED PROJECT. WE WERE ASKED TO, UM, IDENTIFY IT WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, TALK WITH THEM, IDENTIFY IT IN ANY MASTER PLANS COMING UP. WE'VE DONE WHAT WE WERE DIRECTED TO DO. IF WE WANT TO TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT STEP OF ACTUALLY STARTING A STUDY, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT. BUT I, I HAVEN'T, UH, HEARD DIRECTION TO PURSUE A STUDY YET. WE CAN ALSO INVITE, UM, OUR, I THINK IT'S THROUGH NACO THAT THE VERDE VALLEY, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, UH, JUMPING IN ON. BUT, UM, WE COULD INVITE THEM TO UPDATE COUNCIL ON WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN WHERE THIS IS INCLUDED, AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE HEADED WITH THAT FOR THE REGION, FOR SEDONA. UM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THEIR PLANNING PROCESS, IF THEY HAVE CONCRETE THINGS YET TO, UM, SHOW THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE FEEDBACK THEY'VE BEEN GATHERING ON THESE FUTURE, UM, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. BUT DEFINITELY COULD HAVE THEM COME AND UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON THAT BIG PICTURE AND WHERE ALL OF OUR STUFF FITS IN IT. I, I THINK THAT'S A LOVELY IDEA, ANNETTE. MM-HMM . UM, KURT, MAYBE YOU KNOW, BETTER, OR ANDY. I MEAN, I THINK THE PROCESS IS STILL EITHER AT KIND OF INFORMATION COLLECTION. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY AT THE POINT OF STARTING TO THROW DARTS AT AT IDEAS PER SE. AND SO, CONSEQUENTLY, I WOULD SAY TO YOUR QUESTION COUNSELOR, I THINK THAT I THINK ALL HAS BEEN DONE. THAT CAN BE AT THIS POINT, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A REGIONAL MATTER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD BE IDENTIFYING AS A PROJECT TO ANDY'S POINT RIGHT NOW. SO, WELL, IF I MADE TO THAT POINT, UM, JUST [01:45:01] AS WE STRUGGLE WITH, UM, PROJECTS, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING FORWARD THINGS NEED CHAMPIONS, WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE THE CHAMPION OF GETTING AOG AND THE TMP TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT IN A MORE POINTED WAY. YOU KNOW? AND AS I SAID, I JUST WANNA KNOW, ARE THERE FEASIBLE LOCATIONS OUT THERE? AND IF THEY'RE NOT FEASIBLE, GREAT. TAKE 'EM OFF, THEN WE CAN STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT KEEPS COMING UP. DO IT HERE. DO SOMETHING THERE. DO SOMETHING THERE. AND I, AND WE NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. AND THAT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT I WANNA GET US TO. YEAH. EVEN THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN WILL IDENTIFY THE NEED. IT WON'T EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF DIFFERENT SPECIFIC. RIGHT. BUT HOW DO WE GET THERE? 'CAUSE WE NEED TO START IDENTIFYING THE FEASIBILITY IS MY WHOLE POINT. YEAH. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP. IT'S THE NEXT STEP. AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT UP IN THE CONNECTIONS YOU'RE MENTIONING. I'M SORRY. WAIT, WAIT, CHARLOTTE. BUT, BUT, WELL, I, I, I KIND OF IDENTIFIED IN MY SUMMARY, IF I CAN JUST ADD THAT SO WE'RE KIND OF AHEAD OF OURSELVES. THE STRATEGY REMAINS ON HOLD AND IS NOT IN A FISCAL YEAR 27 PRIORITY. BUT I'M HEARING DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. NO FUNDING IS PROPOSED. STAFF WILL CONTINUE COORDINATION ONLY IF THE CONDITIONS CHANGE, WHICH I'M HEARING THAT FROM COUNCILLOR KINSELLA STAFF MADE THIS A PRIORITY COMMITMENT TO NACO, THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THE REGIONAL PROJECT, UH, WITHIN, UH, YAVAPAI COUNTY. SO AT THE, UM, ADOT, UH, TOUR, WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS AS AN ISSUE. NACOG, UM, AND THE CONSULTANT FOR THE MASTER PLAN HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, WHETHER IT'S CALLED RED ROCK CROSSING OR WHATEVER, THAT WITH ALL THESE COMMUNITIES, WITH THE FORECAST POPULATION GROUP, SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN, KATHY, THAT THERE WILL BE IDENTIFIED LINK IN ORDER TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD. I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS GET WITH THE COUNTY MM-HMM . AND HAVE THE COUNTY AS THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR NEXT, YOU KNOW, UM, BUDGET THAT THEY PROGRAM MONEY FOR THIS AS WELL. SO WE DO THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE. HAVE WE SHARED WITH, WITH SUPERVISOR CHECK MM-HMM . OUR, YOU KNOW, PRIORITY I TALKED WITH, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED THROUGH YEAH, I DID. I I TALKED WITH HER ABOUT THIS MYSELF. YEAH. AND SHE'S ON BOARD WITH THE CONCEPT FROM WHAT THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM HER. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CALL IT RED ROCK CROSSING, EVEN THOUGH WHEREVER IT IS, IT'S A RED ROCK CROSSING. 'CAUSE IT HAS, HAS A CONNOTATION NOW. CORRECT. RIGHT. WE'RE JUST USING THE NAME THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL TEAM. RIGHT. YEAH. BUILDING ONTO THAT, SOME OF THE CONNECTIONS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ARE WHOLLY WITHIN THE CITY. I MEAN, SHELBY SUNSET. MM-HMM . DO THOSE REQUIRE COORDINATION WITH OUTSIDE GROUPS LIKE NACO AND SOMEWHERE IT COMES OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE? RIGHT? WELL, I ASSUME IT'S GONNA COME OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA STILL. MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT. SHELBY. WHERE ELSE COULD IT COME OUT? IT HAS TO GO ACROSS TO THE BUILDING. IT HAS TO GO ACROSS THE MESA. AND THEN WHERE WOULD IT COME OUT ON 1 79? IS THAT STILL WITHIN CITY LIMITS OR NOT? WELL, OKAY. SIGNS THAT SAME, SAME ANSWER, SIR. THE, THE OTHER THING IS THAT I THINK THE CONCEPT THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD A EVA, UH, FEASIBILITY, UH, EVALUATION, IT WOULD LOOK AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS. MM-HMM . SO VERY CERTAINLY, UH, SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE PART, AT LEAST PARTLY WITHIN THE COUNTY. THERE, THERE COULD BE OPTIONS THAT ARE SOLELY WITHIN THE CITY AS WELL. BUT WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULD WANT TO EVALUATE ALL THE OPTIONS ALL TOGETHER. YEAH. WELL, SOMETIMES YOU CAN JUST CLEAR THE TABLE AND MAKE THE, MAKE IT EASIER IF YOU, AS YOU SAID, YOU CAN JUST TAKE SOME OFF AND REALIZE THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE. THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK TO THE WIDER GROUP. RIGHT. BUT SOME OF THESE FIRST ONES THAT YOU MENTIONED, I THOUGHT WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT OURSELF, BUT YEAH, IT WOULD. YES, YOU COULD. BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED TO KNOW WHICH WOULD BE WHICH ONE WOULD RANK MORE FEASIBLE THAN ANOTHER ONE AND MM-HMM . SO I DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THEM IN A, IN A TUNNEL. SO, BUT I ALSO WANNA REINFORCE THE POINT THAT THE MAYOR MADE CALLING THIS STRATEGY. RED ROCK CROSSING IN TO ME COULD BE VIEWED BY SOME AS THERE'S A PLAN FOR SOMETHING AT RED ROCK CROSSING. WHAT WE WANNA DO IS LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR REGIONAL CONNECTIONS INTO THE CITY OF SEDONA. INTO WEST SEDONA. I HAVE A SUGGESTION. MM-HMM . WHEN THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IDENTIFIES THAT CORRIDOR, [01:50:01] WE USE THE SAME NAME. THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'LL BE TALKING THE SAME LANGUAGE AS NACO GABA BY COUNTY. AND WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING NOW IS BRINGING IN THE, UH, FOREST SERVICE US COCONINO FOREST SERVICE THAT THEN HAS THAT NEXUS THAT WE CAN THEN IDENTIFY. THIS IS OUR NEXT FLAP, FEDERAL LANDS ACCESS PROJECT. AGAIN, WHICH IS A REALLY POWERFUL, USEFUL TOOL THAT THE CITY HAS AN ADVANTAGE. AGAIN, I HOPE WE HAVE SOME PO POSITIVE NEWS HERE IN MAY, BECAUSE ONCE WE GET THAT PEELED BACK, REMEMBER WE HAVE THE VOLPE REPORT MM-HMM . THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HELP US OPEN. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT THE CITY'S PROBLEM REGIONALLY. THIS IS A FOREST SERVICE VERDE VALLEY REGIONAL PROBLEM. AND WE SHOULD BE GETTING FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS TO HELPING US DO THAT. THAT'S WHERE OUR OPINION IS. SO WE, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. WE DON'T HAVE TO CARRY ALL THE WATER. WELL, IT'D BE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR US TO DO THAT. OH, ENORMOUS. EVERYTHING THAT WE DID WOULD BE TINY COMPARED TO, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CORNER. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE LOOKED AT THE INITIAL PLAN THAT CAME FROM THE CONSULTANT AND WHAT THE PROJECTED, UH, POPULATION GROWTH IS IN THE VERDE VALLEY. THIS A, A AREA HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A, A CONNECTION CORRIDOR TO ALLEVIATE BOTH 1 79, UM, BEAVER FLATS ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 89 A, DON'T FORGET THE DELLS. WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE OPTIONS. RIGHT. SO THERE'S ALL THESE MOVING TARGETS THAT ARE MOVING. SO, UM, GREAT TOPIC. UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG PROJECT, I THINK, FOR NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE WHOLE VALLEY AND THE STATE. IS THIS A GOOD TIME FOR A BREAK? YEAH, I THINK SO. I'M DONE HERE. SO THE NEXT WOULD BE AMBER'S ON DECK. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND YOUR DIRECTION. THANK YOU, KURT. WE'RE GONNA KEEP STRIVING TO DO OUR BEST. YEAH, WE CAN DO 10 MINUTES BACK AT THREE. LET'S BEGIN. , ARE WE READY? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS. I'M AMBER WEGNER, THE TRANSIT ADMINISTRATOR HERE WITH THE CITY. UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE DAVID VELASCO. I ALREADY DID THIS, BUT I JUST WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. HE'S BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT A MONTH. HE HAS OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS ALL OVER THE MIDWEST. UH, LASTLY HE CAME, HE CAME TO US FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA. HE IS ENJOYING THE CLIMATE SO FAR. SO, DAVID, DO YOU HAVE A FEW WORDS? YOU'RE FINE. OKAY. WELL, WE WANNA WELCOME YOU HERE FORMALLY. WE'RE REALLY ALL GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. VERY HAPPY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BACK TO THE SOUTHWEST . SO TODAY'S UPDATE IS INTENDED TO GIVE YOU ALL A HIGH LEVEL SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH SEDONAS, ADOPTED TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND PARKING AS RELATED TO THE TRANSIT MASTER PLAN, UH, HOW THEY'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, WHAT THE PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE, AND WHAT'S COMING INTO FOCUS AS WE LOOK AHEAD, UH, PARTICULARLY IN 27. LET'S SEE, TRANSIT AND PARKING ARE PRESENTED TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WERE PLANNED TO FUNCTION AS COORDINATED TOOLS UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, AND SEDONA IN MOTION, NOT AS STANDALONE PROGRAMS TO SET THE STAGE. I'M GONNA START WITH A BRIEF REFRESH ON HOW THE CITY'S TWO KEY TRANSPORTATION PLANS WORK TOGETHER. THERE WE GO. UH, NO. BACK UP. BACK UP. YEP. UH, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, OR WE CALL IT THE TMP ESTABLISHED SEDONAS OVERALL TRANSPORTATION VISION AND POLICY DIRECTION AND SIM ARE THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES DERIVED FROM THE TMP. AND THAT'S WHAT KURT KIND OF WENT OVER TODAY. THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, TAKES THAT POLICY DIRECTIVE UNDER THOSE INITIATIVES AND TRANSLATES IT INTO HOW TRANSIT SERVICES AND THE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED ARE ROLLED OUT OVER TIME. SIMPLY PUT THE TMP ANSWERS THE WHAT AND THE STIP ADDRESSES THE HOW AND WHEN. GO BACK TO THAT. YEAH, RIGHT THERE. , UH, THAT FRAMEWORK IS IMPORTANT FOR UNDERSTANDING WHERE TRANSIT FITS WITHIN SEDONAS BROADER TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. NOW YOU CAN GO, OKAY. IN THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, TRANSIT IS ONE OF SEVERAL STRATEGIES INTENDED TO HELP MANAGE CONGESTION, PARKING, DEMAND AND ACCESS AND SPECIAL, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH USE AREAS. IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO OPERATE ON ITS OWN, BUT ALONGSIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT AND OTHER TOOLS TO REDUCE CIRCULATION AND REDUCE VEHICLE TRIPS FROM THE BEGINNING, THE PLAN ANTICIPATED AN INCREMENTAL ROLLOUT WITH EVALUATION ADJUSTMENT OVER TIME, THAT INCREMENTAL APPROACH IS REFLECTED IN HOW THE STIP WAS STRUCTURED. NEXT SLIDE. THE STIP ON THIS SLIDE. UH, THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WAS DESIGNED AS A PHASE 10 YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THE EARLY PHASES FOCUSED ON BUILDING [01:55:01] THE FOUNDATION, PLANNING CAPITAL INVESTMENT VEHICLES, LOOKING AT FACILITIES AND OPERATIONAL READINESS. CONTINUE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE PLAN OUTLINES KEY SERVICE COMPONENTS, INCLUDING FIXED DROUGHTS, TRAILHEAD SERVICES, A DA, AND ON-DEMAND SERVICE, AND REGIONAL AND EXPRESS CONNECTIONS. LATER PHASES WERE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED TO REMAIN FLEXIBLE, ALLOWING THE CITY TO ADJUST BASED ON AVAILABLE FUNDING, PERFORMANCE DATA, AND CURRENT CONDITIONS. WHILE OUR TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IDENTIFIES THESE SERVICE COMPONENTS, IT ALSO LAYS OUT A CLEAR SEQUENCE FOR HOW THEY WERE INTENDED TO ROLL OUT OVER TIME. THIS SLIDE, UH, SHOWS HOW THOSE PHASES, UH, WERE LAID OUT. IN THE ORIGINAL SEDONA TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THE EARLY YEARS FOCUSED WERE TO FOCUS ON PLANNING AND PROGRAM SET WITH THE NEXT PHASES ANTICIPATING LAUNCHING CORE ROUTES AND TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE SERVICES. THAT WAS IN YEARS FOUR AND FIVE, AND THEN LATER PHASES INCLUDED INTERCEPT CONCEPTS SUCH AS OAK CREEK CANYON AND REGIONAL EXPRESS SERVICE TO SLIDE ROCK DURING PEAK SERVICE DEMANDS. THIS BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN YEAR FIVE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE ORIGINAL PHASES. SO LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT STATUS WILL HELP PUT THE TIMELINE INTO A PERSPECTIVE. AS WE LOOK IN, WE'RE INTO YEAR FIVE OF THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING CURRENTLY REFLECTS AN EARLY BUT STEADILY PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM THAT'S HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITIONS. SINCE ADOPTION OF THE TMP AND THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED A CITY LED TRANSIT PROGRAM FROM THE GROUND UP, WHICH WAS STARTED IN 22. KEY MILESTONES SINCE THIS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED INCLUDE LAUNCHING THE TRAILHEAD SERVICE, IMPLEMENTING OUR ON DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT, WHICH WE JUST CURRENTLY EXPANDED IN NOVEMBER TO THE CHAPEL AND MYSTIC NEIGHBORHOODS. AND ALSO IN 2025, WE KICKED OFF THE DESIGN OF THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. THESE STEPS HELPED US ESTABLISH THE BASELINE NEEDED FOR US TO DEVELOP AND EVALUATE FUTURE SERVICE PHASES, CORE ROUTES AND REGIONAL CONNECTIONS, WHICH WERE INTENDED TO BE IN THE FIRST INITIAL STAGES. UH, YEARS THREE AND FOUR, UH, REMAIN IN PLANNING, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE PHASED APPROACH. BUT THE, THE CORE ROUTES WERE TO COME EARLIER THAN THE SHUTTLES. UH, TIMING HAD SHIFTED, UH, WITH THE TRAILHEAD RESPONSE TO NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS OF SPILLOVER TO THOSE TRAILHEADS. SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS ADJUSTED. THE PERCENTAGES IN THIS SLIDE SHOW THE PERCENTAGE OF PROGRESS WE'VE SEEN TO DATE, UH, FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN LAID OUT TO WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR TAKEN TOGETHER. THIS HELPS US FRAME WHERE THE SYSTEM PLAN SITS IN ITS LIFECYCLE. NEXT SLIDE. SEDONAS TRANSIT SERVICES ARE STILL IN AN EARLY OPERATIONAL STAGE. OUR TRAILHEAD SERVICE IS ENTERING ITS FOURTH SEASON WITH THREE SEASONS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED SERVICE FOR. OUR MICRO TRANSIT IS 1-YEAR-OLD, A LITTLE BIT OVER 1-YEAR-OLD, AND OUR PARKING AND TRANSIT INTEGRATION, WHICH WAS INTENDED, HAS NOT YET BEEN IMPLEMENTED AS WE SEE. AND WE ROLL OUT THE INTENDED, UH, PARKING STRATEGIES AS WELL AS YOU'LL BE SEEING THE CIRCULATOR STUDY RECOMMENDATIONS COMING TO YOU IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. NEXT SLIDE. UH, THE CURRENT PHASE IS A TRANSITIONING FROM OUR LAUNCHING TO SYSTEM REFINEMENT AND ALIGNING WITH OUR OTHER TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS. UH, PERFORMANCE DATA AT THIS STAGE REFLECTS SYSTEM STARTUP AND REFINEMENT RATHER THAN LONG TERM OUTCOMES. WE ARE STILL SEEING PROGRESS IN TERMS OF INCREASED RIDERSHIP AND GAINING AWARENESS OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. THIS IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR NEAR TERM PRIORITIES AS WELL AS OUR NEXT STEPS IN RELATIONSHIP TO OUR PLANS. IN THE NEAR TERM, THE FOCUS IS ON KIND OF REFINING AND OPTIMIZING OUR EXISTING SERVICES. THAT INCLUDES EXPANDING OUR CONNECT SERVICE, WHICH WE DID IN NOVEMBER. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PILOTING THE NORTH OF SANBORN AREA, UH, SOON THIS SPRING, HOPEFULLY. AND, UH, YOU WILL BE SEEING AND EXPLORING A POTENTIAL UPTOWN CIRCULATOR THAT COULD BETTER LINK [02:00:01] THE PARKING INVESTMENT IN TRANSIT TO RELIEVE CONGESTION ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. UH, AT THE Y WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING IN 27, A TARGETED REFRESH OF THE STIP, THE TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THE PLAN IS NOW SEVEN YEARS OLD AND THE CITY HAS REAL WORLD OPERATIONAL DATA. NOPE. YOU WANNA GO THERE? THERE YOU GO. SORRY. UM, WE HAVE DATA THAT DID NOT EXIST AT THE TIME OF THE STIP AND CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED. UH, THIS WOULD FOCUS ON RECONFIRMING OUR SERVICE PRIORITIES, PHASING ASSUMPTIONS, AND SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO ADVANCE OUR FUTURE SERVICE DECISIONS. IT WOULDN'T REOPEN THE ENTIRE PLAN, IT WOULD JUST BE A REVISITING TO KIND OF HELP US STRATEGIZE THOSE NEXT SERVICE PRIORITIES. NEXT SLIDE. SUPPORTING THOSE FUTURE DECISIONS REQUIRES CONTINUED FOCUS ON OUR OPERATIONAL READINESS. ALONGSIDE THE OPTIMIZATION AND LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT AND EXISTING SERVICES, UH, STAFF IS CONTINUING TO ADVANCE THE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS THAT SUPPORT THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. AS LAID OUT IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WORK IS UNDERWAY ON BOTH THE DESIGN AND THE BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY AS REQUESTED BY YOU ALL. UH, THIS FACILITY IS A CORE SYSTEM INVESTMENT THAT WILL SUPPORT FUTURE SERVICE DECISIONS AND PROVIDE LONG-TERM OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND POSSIBLE CREATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH REGIONAL ENTITIES SUCH AS COTTONWOOD AREA TRANSIT, AS WELL AS OTHER REGIONAL JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS, UH, SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT, POTENTIALLY, OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THE BUSINESS PLAN TO COUNCIL, UH, THIS SPRING AND MARCH. HOPEFULLY, UH, ALL THIS LEADS INTO THE BROADER CONSIDERATIONS LOOKING AHEAD AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN FISCAL YEAR 27. NEXT SLIDE. LET'S SEE. TRANSIT SERVICES ARE STILL EVOLVING AND BOTH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, UH, REMAIN GUIDING DOCUMENTS, TRANSIT AND MULTIMODAL STRATEGIES CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR CONGESTION MANAGEMENT ASSIST WITH IMPROVING VISITOR ACCESS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS AND QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. LOOKING TOWARD 27, OUR KEY CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE WILL INCLUDE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT TIMING AS OUR FLEET REACHES USEFUL LIFE UPTOWN CIRCULATION CONCEPTS, AND WHETHER TO PROCEED WITH THE REFRESH TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IN SUMMARY, SEDONA HAS MOVED FROM LAUNCHING OUR TRANSIT SERVICES INTO A PHASED, UH, SYSTEM REFINEMENT AND LOOKING CONTINUALLY AT OUR FOUNDATIONAL INVESTMENTS FOR FUTURE DECISION MAKING, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, LOOK AT FUNDING AND SERVICE DECISIONS THAT ARE INFORMED BY REAL WORLD DATA, OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS, AS WELL AS UNDER COUNCIL DIRECTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, AMBER, WHEN YOU COME WITH THE CIRCULATOR, UH, REPORT PROPOSAL, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF A FULL TRANSIT REVIEW AT THAT POINT? 'CAUSE LIKE WE'RE TALKING ALSO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TARGETED REFRESH FOR NEXT SERVICE PHASES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO IS THAT ALL I DON'T THINK GONNA HAPPEN OUTTA ONE MEETING? WE'LL BE PROVIDING THE BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND THE REFRESH AND KIND OF A, A STATUS UPDATE AND A STATUS UPDATE, THAT SORT OF THING. AS FAR AS IF, I THINK WHERE HER MIND IS GOING IS IF WE WANTED A, AN UPDATE TO THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL EFFORT. YEAH. THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO QUICKLY MM-HMM . UM, BUT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD GIVE DIRECTION ON AT THAT TIME. MM-HMM . TO PROCEED WITH. THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED TODAY TO KNOW, IS IF YOU WANNA KNOW NOW, THUMBS UP FOR ME. SO, UM, CAN WE ALSO BE LOOKING AT IS IT TIME TO START CHARGING FOR THE TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE? CAN WE START RECOVERING SOME COST ON THAT? YEAH. WITH, WITH, UH, SOME SORT OF TARGETED, YOU KNOW, EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM. I, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. ALONG WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR PARKING PROGRAM RIGHT NOW WITH FEE STRUCTURE AND THAT SORT OF THING, I THINK, AND HOW THOSE RELATE. AND, AND AS WE LOOK AT THE PARK AND RIDE, IS IT, DO WE DO A FEED, A PARK VERSUS FREE TRANSIT? THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AND IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT SCENARIOS [02:05:01] TO, TO RECAPTURE SOME OF THAT REVENUE. OKAY. BUT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AT LEAST FOUR HEAD NODS ON WHETHER TO DO A TARGETED REFRESH ON TO THAT. I WANNA KNOW WHERE THAT FITS IN YOUR CAPACITY IN TERMS OF THE REST OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED. WELL, I THINK, UM, MAYBE AMBER COULD, COULD GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL, BUT, UH, I, I GUESS IT MIGHT HELP TO SAY WHAT IS IT THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW CERTAIN PHASES OF THE PROGRAM HAVE MOVED IN FRONT OF OTHERS, AND SO THAT WOULD RE THAT WOULD MAKE IT MAKE SENSE TO RE-LOOK AT LIKE THE HUB FOR INSTANCE. DOES THE HUB STILL MAKE SENSE IN THE OVERALL PROGRAM? UM, IS THE CIRCULATOR AND THE CONNECT SYSTEM GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO NOT MAKE THE FIXED ROUTE, YOU KNOW, PHASE IN SYSTEM BE NECESSARY OR NOT? YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND RE-LOOK AT THAT. SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THAT WOULD BE TARGETED REFRESH OPPORTUNITIES. THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. UM, BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IN THE VERY, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE TO DO THAT BECAUSE BEFORE WE WERE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH A FIXED ROUTE CONSIDERATION OR A HUB OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM, WE WOULD WANT TO DO THIS REFRESH. LOOK, I, I'M GLAD YOU USED THE LAUNDRY REAL LIST OF EXAMPLES THAT YOU DID THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED BECAUSE IT WOULD, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ASK WHEN YOU WERE DONE WAS GOING BACK TO SLIDE 39, UM, THERE'S A MAP THAT, THAT INDICATES WHAT THE PLAN IS, UM, FOR THE FUTURE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT MAP IS CURRENT OR UP TO DATE OR REFLECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE. SO I THINK IT'S GIVING, I'D LIKE THE MAP AND THEN I JUST PUT LIKE WHERE OUR SERVICE IS. YEAH. BUT I THINK IT GIVES A, IT MIS MESSAGES TO THE PUBLIC. AGAIN, WHEN WE USE AN INFORMATION THAT IS ALREADY, WE KNOW IT'S OUTDATED, BUT WE USE A IMAGER GRAPHIC BECAUSE IT EXISTS. AND I, I THINK WE CREATE SOME OF OUR OWN PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY PERCEPTION. UM, YOU USE THE TERM HUB, THIS MAP STILL REFLECTS A WHY FOCUSED CHOKE POINT, YOU KNOW, OF WHERE A HUB WOULD BE, WHICH, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD GOTTEN AWAY FROM CALLING A HUB BECAUSE THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. SO I JUST THINK THAT IT, AGAIN, WE'RE MAKING OUR OWN PROBLEMS AND WE USE A GRAPHIC LIKE THIS AND PUT INFORMATION OUT THERE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WE NEED TO REEVALUATE. SO I GUESS I'M SUPPORTING WHERE WE ARE AS LONG AS YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IT COULD FIT INTO YOUR WORK PLAN. SO I THINK WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH, I MEAN, I DON'T, A TOTAL REFRESH WOULD HAVE TO, WE'D LIKELY, AND, AND, AND I, I'M HEARING THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S DESIRED. YEAH. I THINK A TARGETED REFRESH WOULD MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND I JUST, NOT TO BE DEFENSIVE, I, I JUST TODAY JUST RECALL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR MASTER PLAN, AND THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT OF OUR MASTER PLAN. MM-HMM . AND I WOULDN'T SAY THAT ANYTHING ON THIS PLAN IS DEFINITIVELY NOT EVER GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S STILL IN CONSIDERATION. RIGHT. UM, INCLUDING A CONNECTION INTO OAK CREEK CANYON AND VOC AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SOMEWHERE WHERE WE'RE DIFFERENT TODAY IS THE COUNTY ACTUALLY HAS INTEREST IN CONNECTIONS OUT TO THE FOREST AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO A REEVALUATION OF THAT DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. WELL, IN, IN TERMS OF THE IMAGE AND WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PHASES, THE, THE REGIONAL, THE VOC, THE OAK CREEK CONNECTION, AND THE SIDE LAR EXPRESS, WHICH ARE KIND OF LAID OUT THERE, UH, I MEAN, THE HUB IS NOT THAT, WHERE THEIR CENTRAL TRANSFER POINT WAS FOR THE THREE CORE ROUTES. THAT IS NOT, WE'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING THAT, BUT THOSE REGIONAL SYS, THOSE REGIONAL ROUTES WERE TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN YEAR FIVE. JUST TO CLARIFY, I'M SORRY. THE HUB AGAIN, IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T FULLY DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD ON. MM-HMM. BUT WE ALSO HAVEN'T FULLY DECIDED NOT TO. SO WE CHANGED THE NAME OF IT THOUGH. YEAH. WE DID THE RIDE EXCHANGE. YEAH. OKAY. RIDE EXCHANGE. SO I JUST WANT TO, BEFORE WE PUT THAT ON RECORD, WE'RE TRYING NOT BE ALARM THAT WAY FOR OUR, FOR OUR TRANSIT CHAMPION, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE THAT OFFICIAL YET. BUT, UM, WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS BUILT INTO THE, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS. AND WHILE TODAY'S AGENDA DIDN'T, UM, INCLUDE SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON [02:10:01] ANY PARTICULAR THING, I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE GENERAL SENTIMENT OF THE COUNCIL. THAT WHEN WE BRING FORWARD THE DETAILED BUDGET FOR FY 27, THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE IN THERE FOR YOU TO DEBATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IT IN THE BUDGET, HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA FUND IT. AND SO FOR HEARING YES. REFRESH, UPDATE, SOME KIND OF PLAN, UPDATE FOR THE STIP AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF, WE CAN GO BACK AND FORMULATE LIKE, WHAT'S THAT REALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE? UM, SO THEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET IN DETAIL. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT, AND THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND TAKE ACTION ON IT, BUT TODAY IS NOT REALLY AN ACTION DAY. IT'S RIGHT. THE GENERAL DIRECTION. OH, WHOA. SORRY. I THINK THAT WAS, THIS WAS TO GIVE YOU ALL JUST SOME IDEA OF KIND OF NEAR TERM FOCUS, THINGS TO POTENTIALLY LOOK FOR IN FISCAL YEAR 27. UH, AS, AS YOU LOOK AT THE CIP AND AS WELL, I MEAN IN, IN TERMS OF TRANSIT, JUST THE OPERATING BUDGET AS WELL. WHEN WE, WHEN WE PROVIDE THESE, THESE, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE CIRCULATOR AND THAT YOUR, YOUR BUSINESS PLAN AT YOUR REQUEST, UH, BE PROVIDED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WELL, FOR SURE, WE'RE NOT GONNA ACHIEVE OUR 10 YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AS ORIGINALLY. RIGHT. PROPOSED AND, AND APPROVED. SO, AT LEAST THERE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE GO TO THE CANYON, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE WITHIN 10 YEARS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND, AND WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE ABOUT, UH, CONSIDERATION OF FEES THAT WASN'T REALLY LOOKED AT IN THE ORIGINAL STEP. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A NEW CONCEPT AND NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH PARKING. SO, AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT I NOTICED IN KURT'S PRESENTATION IN THE, IN SIM THE TRAIL, UH, THE CONNECT SHUTTLE WAS INTENDED TO BE FOR, REALLY FOR TOURISTS. AND WE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT MM-HMM . A COUPLE YEARS AGO, RIGHT. WHERE WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ALSO ON RESIDENTS. WE'RE REALLY SEEING IT BEING IMPLEMENTED AND UTILIZED, UH, BY OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS IS IS GREAT TO FILL THOSE TRANSPORTATION GAPS THAT, THAT WERE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THOSE, THAT OPTION. RIGHT. EXACTLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, I GUESS, UH, BY DEFAULT I'VE KIND OF BECOME A, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF, UH, SEDONA COUNCIL CHAMPION AS IT RELATES TO THINGS CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS RELATED. AND, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S HYPERBOLE TO SAY THAT THE IMPACT OF VISITATION HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY BAD IN THIS MOST RECENT HOLIDAY SEASON. AND KUDOS TO PD FOR, UH, JUMPING IN AND DOING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU COULD TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S REALLY BECOME JUST AS MUCH OF A SAFETY SITUATION ON CHAPEL ROAD AS WHAT HAPPENED AT BACKHOE BEYOND BACK IN THE DAY. SO I'D LIKE TO GET MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UH, CONSENSUS TO BE PROVIDING DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO. I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STEP UP AND SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AS A NOT LACKING, JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR. SO THERE IS NO, NO SHADE THROWN HERE. I THINK WE MAY NEED TO STEP UP AND, AND REALLY TRY TO FORCE, FIGURE OUT WHATEVER A SOLUTION FOR THE CHAPEL, THE HOLY CROSS, BECAUSE THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO GET IT FIGURED OUT. THEY'RE NOT MAKING GOOD, UH, CONNECTIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN FANTASTIC IN TERMS OF COLLECTING DATA, COMMUNICATING POSITIVELY. I KNOW AMBER, YOU'VE HAD GOOD INTERACTIONS WITH THEM. UM, THEY'RE BEING AS REASONABLE AS YOU COULD EVER EXPECT ANYBODY TO BE. UH, BUT IT, IT IS A SERIOUS SITUATION WHEN YOU'RE JUST TOTALLY GRIDLOCKED. AND IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO PEOPLE IN THAT UPPER PORTION OF THE CHAPEL. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US BE PROVIDING DIRECTION THAT IS PART OF A, UH, TARGETED REFRESH THAT ONE OF THOSE TARGETS IS I THINK WE GOTTA STEP IN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THE SITUATION. I HAPPENED TO HAVE LUNCH THE OTHER DAY IN A RESTAURANT IN WHICH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, THE LEADER OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WAS MEETING WITH THE CHAPEL LEADERSHIP MM-HMM . AND I WAS ASKED TO COME OVER TO THEIR TABLE TO SAY HI . AND THEY WERE MEETING ON JUST THOSE ISSUES, BUT IT DID NOT SOUND [02:15:01] LIKE THEY WERE PROGRESSING ALL THAT FAR. THAT'S RIGHT. I, I THINK IT GONNA REQUIRE CREATIVITY, UM, EVEN MORE EFFORTS TO CONVENE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND REALLY TRY TO DRIVE TOWARDS A SOLUTION. AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT TRANSIT IS THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THAT SITUATION. CAN I PIG BACK ON THE MAYOR'S COMMENT BEFORE? OKAY. SO, YES. UM, AND I HAD A CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER FROM THERE AS WELL, UM, IN WHICH I HAD SAID I WOULD MAKE INTRODUCTIONS, UH, TO THE APPROPRIATE CITY STAFF FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT. AND, UM, TELL ME WHO YOU WANT THE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS THE RIGHT POINT PERSON TO DIRECT THEM TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 'CAUSE I WAS THINKING ONE PERSON, I'M NOW RETHINKING THAT'S NOT RIGHT. AND IT PROBABLY SHOULD GO RIGHT TO YOU, ANDY, TO COORDINATE. I I'M OKAY WITH THAT. UM, I'M ALSO OKAY WITH PEOPLE GOING DIRECTLY TO AMBER, UH, VERY SOON THOUGH. I THINK THEY MAY NEED TONY AS WELL THOUGH. OH, POSSIBLY. BUT ALSO, VERY SOON WE WILL HAVE OUR COUNCIL CHAMPIONS UP TO SPEED AND, AND WE CAN ALSO TAKE ADVANTAGE WHETHER ROUTE THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, THESE CHAMPIONS. THIS IS LIKE AN NBA PLAYOFF OR SOMETHING. WE'RE GONNA . I DO THINK THOUGH, THAT COUNCILOR FO'S IDEA ON THAT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT IN A TARGETED REFERENCE. I DO TOO. PARTICULARLY WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S COMING FROM AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT FROM A SERVICE DELIVERY AND ACCESS STANDPOINT, REDUCING THE SPILLOVER AND, AND NOT TO OVER TRIVIALIZE OR SIMPLIFY IT, BUT I THINK THE KEY FACTOR IS, IS FINDING OFFSITE PARKING. YEAH. THAT WE CAN THEN RUN OUR SHUTTLE TOO. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULDN'T BE NEEDED. AND, AND AGAIN, I WANNA THROW KUDOS OUT TO AMBER, ANDY, ANNETTE PD. I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY ACCOMMODATING AND OPEN AND WILLING TO MEET WITH THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORS GROUP AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT I THINK HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FRUITFUL. SO THANK YOU ALL, ALYSSA. SO I'M GONNA SIMPLIFY THE CONCEPT AND JUST SAY, UM, THE CHAPO WAS JUST AN UNTHOUGHT OF TRAILHEAD AND WE, ANYTHING THAT IS A POINT OF INTEREST IN ENTRAN, WHICH WE THINK OF AS THE TRAILHEADS, BUT WE HAVE OTHER POINTS. AND SO THE REFRESH NEEDS TO SAY, WHAT ARE THOSE POINTS OF INTEREST, UM, THOSE TRAILHEAD AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS? WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER FOR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOLDIERS PAST TRAILHEAD MM-HMM. WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THERE, WHICH HAS, HAS BEEN COMPLICATED, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S NOW, THERE'S NOW A PATH THAT TAKES THEM THERE IF THEY WANNA WALK THE EXTRA 1.2 MILES, WHICH THEY CAME HERE TO HIKE. SO I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED IN WHY THEY PARK AND THEN TAKE THE SHUTTLE. BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE SHUTTLE PARKING, THERE'S THE TRAIL THAT WAS PUT IN THAT GOES OVER THERE AND KEEPS THEM OFF. SOLDIERS PASS ROAD WALKING ON THE ROAD, BUT THEY STILL WALK ON THE ROAD. BY THE WAY, WE KEEP HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ON SIGNAGE. WE REALLY NEED TO FIX THAT SIGNAGE, SIR. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT WE'VE DONE INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT SITUATION GOING ON THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING. SO THERE'S THIS HUGE PACKAGE THAT WENT INTO JUST THE SOLDIER'S PASS AREA AND YOU'VE GOT BACK BEYOND. SO TO ME, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE TRAILHEADS, UM, WHERE WE NEED TO SAY THESE ARE ALL POINTS OF INTEREST INSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS THAT TOURISTS AND LOCALS LIKE TO GO TO. AND HOW DO WE MAKE THEM ACCESSIBLE WITHOUT A LOT OF ISSUES FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE THERE. SO WE DON'T DISTURB THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THERE'S PROBABLY OTHERS AS WELL, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IF YOU DO A REFRESH, IT'S THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT POINTS OF CONTACT IN THE CITY, THINKING ABOUT THEM THE SAME WAY AND NOT THINKING THE CHAPEL IS REALLY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT AS FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING UP THERE, IN MY OPINION THOUGH, I REALIZE I DON'T LIVE ON CHAPEL AND THERE REALLY IS TWO TRAILHEAD THERE MM-HMM . ONE ON PROPERTY AND ONE ADJACENT, SO MM-HMM . YEAH. DEREK, I HATE TO ASK, BUT WHAT'S IT COSTING THE CITY TO PARK SOMEBODY AT BACK AND BEYOND AND TO TURN BACK PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE THERE AS FAR AS THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND, NO, I MEAN, THE PERSON THAT SITS AT BACK BEYOND TCA TURNS PEOPLE AWAY. I MEAN, IT'D BE THE LABOR COSTS FOR THE TCA ITSELF AS WELL AS SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, UM, [02:20:01] THINGS THAT WE THROW INTO THAT. I, MY, I GUESS MY FIRST THOUGHT IS IT'S NOT A HUGE COST. UM, THAT'S A, A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, FOR INSTANCE. UM, WE'VE MINIMIZED HOW MANY LIKE VEHICLES ARE IN THE PROGRAM. WE'VE PUT EFFORT INTO MAKING SURE THAT THE PROGRAM JUST DOESN'T GROW OUTTA CONTROL KIND OF THING. UM, I MEAN, WE COULD GET BACK TO YOU WITH AN EXACT NUMBER IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT I MEAN, I GUESS AS MUCH AS I, YOU KNOW, SEE THE BACK OF BEYOND THING AND THINK, OH YEAH, WE'VE GIVEN THEM THEIR OWN GATEKEEPER. IF IT'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE IN THE CHAPEL AREA, THEN DO WE NEED SOMETHING THERE? AND I, YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE RISK OF THEN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY'S GONNA WANT SOMEBODY TO BLOCK NON-RESIDENTS. BUT I MEAN, IF CHAPEL, IF WE HAVE A REPEAT OF WHAT HAPPENED IN CHAPEL, THAT DIVERTS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF POLICE RESOURCES TO GO DEAL WITH THAT. SO, I MEAN, I WONDER IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL? WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT A REFRESH LIKE THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO JUST HOLISTICALLY RE-LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A PLAN SIMILAR TO THAT WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE MYSTIC, UM, WHERE KNOW PARKING IMPROVEMENT THAT WE WERE GONNA MAKE THAT WOULD HAVE A TRANSIT CONNECTION. WE MIGHT HAVE A TCA, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS GONNA BE A HOLISTIC SOLUTION TO THE PARKING ISSUE AND, AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IN THAT AREA, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT, SO WE KIND OF LIKE, TOOK OUR PLANS, THREW 'EM OUT THE WINDOW, SAID RESTART AT SQUARE ONE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I KNOW THE CHAPEL NEIGHBORHOODS TRIED TO PURSUE THINGS ON THEIR OWN, BUT I TEND TO AGREE THAT IF THE CITY STEPPED IN AND LEAD POSITION ON THAT, WE'D HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING DONE. I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE A QUICK TEMPORARY FIX WHILE WE SORT OUT, YOU KNOW, AND BRIAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT WOULD YOUR NEIGHBORS THINK OF THAT? WHAT I THINK IF THERE WAS A TCA SITTING AT ANTELOPE AND CHAPEL. 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE FINAL POINT WHERE PEOPLE COULD BE COMING FROM ONE OF TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'D NEED TO RIGHT. BASICALLY CYCLE 'EM. AND YOU STILL WOULD BE POTENTIALLY BACKING UP TO CATHEDRAL, WHICH STOPS THE NEIGHBORS FROM BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, INGRESS OR EGRESS. BUT IT WOULD BE A DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT. AND THEY'VE ESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF DAYS WHERE IT'S TRULY SEVERE TO THIS LEVEL. AND I THINK IT WAS WHAT, LIKE 60 PLUS OR MINUS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WASN'T ABOUT 60, IT WASN'T CONSTANT AT THE MOST. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. BUT WHAT YOU KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THERE TOO, THOUGH, IS THE DOMINO EFFECT THAT HAPPENS. YOU START STOPPING TRAFFIC HERE, NOW YOU'VE GOTTA BACKUP A QUEUE, NOW YOU'VE GOT PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'VE GOTTA TURN PEOPLE AROUND. THERE'S, THERE NEEDS TO BE A HOLISTIC PLAN. AND WE, WE WERE PURSUING ONE AT ONE POINT, AND THEN THAT HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? OH, WHEN DID WE STOP THAT? LIKE, IT WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE TIME WHEN THAT STARTED. RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S BEEN WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS. IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T, YEAH. I MEAN, IN LIGHT OF, IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS, DO YOU THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE CHANGED THEIR MIND ON THIS? NO, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T WANT THE, THE PARKING TO BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MM-HMM . SO IF IT WAS GONNA BE RIGHT WHERE THE MYSTIC TRAIL HEAD IS, YOU'RE STILL GETTING RIGHT UP INTO WHERE IT'S PROBLEMATIC. NOW, THE CHAPEL ITSELF HAS SAID, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO DO, WHAT WAS IT, ROUGHLY 60 CAR SPOTS, I THINK. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT IN GEN, NOT A MAJORITY IS NOT IN FAVOR. I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE ADEQUATELY INFORMED OF REALLY HOW IT WOULD WORK. RIGHT. AND THAT'S AGAIN, WHERE HONESTLY, THE CITY'S LEADERSHIP WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN THE PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS, ET CETERA. 'CAUSE IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST NOT IN THE DNA OF THE ARCHDIOCESE TO, UH, RIGHT. THE PARISH TO BE DOING THAT. YEAH. YEAH. UNRELATED TO THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT SLIDE THIS IS, BUT SLIDE ROCK, EIGHT TO 10 YEARS, I GUESS IT'S FURTHER OUT THAN THAT. UM, NEED TO PHASED SLIDE. WE NEED. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER IT IS. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND THE, AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, IS THIS REALLY SOMETHING THE STATE PARKS DEPARTMENT WANTS US TO DO? I MEAN, THE PARKING LOT HAS A LIMITED NUMBER OF SLOTS AND THAT KIND OF SERVES TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE FILLING THAT, UH, I, I THINK PARK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND I KNOW AMBER REVIEWED THIS STEP MORE RECENTLY THAN I HAVE, BUT I THINK THE CONCEPT THERE WAS ABOUT REDUCING TRIPS THAT ORIGINATE IN THE CITY, INTO THE CANYON AND BACK. SO IT'S REDUCING, UH, YOU KNOW, CIRCULATION TRAFFIC AND THAT SORT OF THING. MM-HMM . IS [02:25:01] THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY OF THE PROGRAM OR NOT? THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY OF THIS REFRESH TO LOOK AT THAT. WE THOUGHT THE REFRESH COULD, COULD TAKE A, A FRESH, A FRESH LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF IT WAS DONE SEVEN YEARS AGO. SO WHAT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN. IT WAS DONE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF INCREASED VISITATION IN THE AREA WHERE, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE PIVOT AND ADJUST OUR SERVICE DELIVERY, UH, STRATEGIES. YOU'LL ALSO, I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE BACK AND BEYOND, UH, IN THE CIP THERE IS A, UH, LINE ITEM THAT IS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BOAST STRING LOT. UH, AND THAT MM-HMM . WAS JUST APPROVED TO EXPAND THAT BY ABOUT 20 SPACES. WELL, WHICH DID WE LAND ON? THERE'S AN EXPANSION OF SPACES. THERE'S EFFICIENCY ACCESS, AND IT APPROVED ACCESS, WHICH WILL ASSIST THE TCAS IN THAT SITUATION. SO WE'RE NOT BACKING PEOPLE OUT, AND THEY HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME, UH, DIRECTLY WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC. SO IT'LL JUST BE A TURNAROUND. THERE'LL BE A, A SLIP LANE SO THE BUS DOES NOT HAVE TO GO INSIDE THE PARKING LOT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING PEDESTRIANS IN THE BUS BUSES SEPARATED. SO THAT IS ALSO IN THE 27 BUDGET THAT I DID NOT ADD IN THIS PRESENTATION. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, DEREK, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT LIKE, HEY, WE NEED TO FIX WHAT'S IN OUR CITY LIMITS BEFORE WE WORRY A WHOLE LOT ABOUT ELSEWHERE. I AGREE WITH YOU. UM, REGARDING THE CANYON, IT REALLY IS MORE THAN JUST SLIDE ROCK. SO MARCY ELLIS, WHO DROVE THE INITIAL EFFORT TO GET THINGS FIXED IN THE CANYON, LIKE HER WORK INCLUDED THE FOREST SERVICE ITSELF. AND SO REALLY THE IDEA OF RUNNING A SHUTTLE UP INTO THE CANYON IS FOR, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE FOREST SERVICE POINTS OF INTEREST AS WELL. AND NOT JUST SLIDE ROCK, BUT YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN ABOUT HOW MUCH CAPACITY DO THEY REALLY HAVE. RIGHT. IT'S JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW, THE FOREST SERVICE LIMITS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN TAKE TO SOLDIER PASS TRAILHEAD. YEAH. WE'RE PERMITTED ON CATHEDRAL TOO, TO ONLY TAKE 600 A DAY. EXACTLY. SO 500. SO I JUST WANNA SEE, DO WE HAVE A MAJORITY THAT IS WILLING TO GIVE DIRECTION TO SAY, YES, LET'S WORK ON THE CHAPEL, THE HOLY CROSS AS BEING A PRIORITY, AS PART OF A TARGETED REFRESH, I SUPPOSE. I DON'T KNOW. IT HAS TO BE PART OF A TARGETED REFRESH, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. YES. OKAY. I LIKE THAT EVEN BETTER. SO I SAW, I THINK IT WAS EVERYBODY. YEAH. SO I MEAN MY, I WOULD JUST GO BACK TO THE TARGETED REFRESH BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT HOLISTICALLY ACROSS ALL OF OUR POINTS, THEN WE HAVE A POTENTIAL WAY OF FINDING A SOLUTION THAT WILL APPLY TO THE CHAPEL AND MAY APPLY TO THE NEXT THING THAT BECOMES I KNOW, BUT IT'S THE POINT. IT'S THE, IT'S THE, THEY'RE DESPERATE AND THEY NEED IT NOW. AND, AND THAT REFRESH MAY BE LONGER TERM. SO TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY NOW, JUST BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TH THREE YEARS, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT AND IT HAS NOT MOVED ONE IOTA. AND THAT'S WHY I ASK ABOUT PUTTING SOMEBODY THERE. I MEAN, THAT'S A QUICK, NOW WHETHER IT WORKS, DIFFERENT ISSUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A, A FAIRLY QUICK THING TO IMPLEMENT. JUST CHIEF OF ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? YOU ON THE SPOT? SHE'S PLEADING THE FIFTH. I WAS GONNA BRING UP HEATHER'S GROUP AS YOU, YOU KNOW, TO, TO LOOK AT THIS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNSELORS. UM, SO AS ANDY WAS STATING, I THE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAD POINTED OUT AS WELL, VICE MAYOR IS IT'S NOT JUST ONE ENTRY POINT INTO THERE. SO IT WILL TAKE MORE RESOURCES, WHICH IS WHERE I THINK THIS ONE DOES HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU CAN GO THROUGH MYSTIC HILLS AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALSO HAD COMPLAINTS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND SPEED, AND WE'VE PUT OUT TRAILERS AND HAD OTHERS IN THE AREA FOR EXTRA PATROL. UH, BUT OVER THOSE TWO DAYS AND A FEW DAYS INTO THE WEEKEND FROM THE WEEKEND IN DAY, UH, WE WROTE 51 TICKETS THAT, UM, WELL ACTUALLY WE HAVE 51 APPEALS FOR TICKETS. WE WR WROTE AND WE HAVE MORE THAT WE WROTE OVER THAT STRETCH OF, OF TIME PERIOD. SO 51 HAVE WRITTEN IN FRUSTRATED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE SUITABLE PARKING AND THEY DID NOT, THEY DON'T WANNA PAY THE FINES, BUT THEY ALSO, UM, DIDN'T WANNA NOT GO TO THE CHURCH OR TO THE TRAIL HEADS. SO, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY SUSTAINABLE AS, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO PUT ALL RESOURCES INTO THAT AREA. UM, BUT I WOULD AGREE, SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE, UM, LOOKED AT AND AND DONE. AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO GO INTO SPRING BREAK, WHICH WILL BE OUR NEXT BIG, UM, UH, WHAT DO I WANNA SAY? , [02:30:01] OUR REALLY OUR BIG FOCAL POINT THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER OF A STRATEGY ALREADY TO DEAL WITH WHAT'S COMING TO US IN, IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. BUT IT, IT IS DIFFERENT THAN BACK BEYOND REQUIRE A MUCH DIFFERENT STRATEGY JUST BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT ENTRY POINTS AND PEOPLE WILL USE MAPS AND OTHER MEANS TO TRY TO GET INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, I MEAN, WE'RE ALWAYS PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP TO HELP AND COLLABORATE. UM, SO WE'LL SHOW UP TO WHATEVER WE NEED TO TO HELP OUT. CAN I WEIGH IN AS WELL? I'M OVER HERE. PEANUT GALLERY. I WAS LIKE, WHERE I DID DO, I CAN SEE WHERE'S THAT, WHERE'S THAT VOICE COMING FROM? DID , WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT MAKES BACK O BEYOND WORK, IT'S THAT WE'VE CLOSED THE TRAILHEAD AND WE CAN'T CLOSE THE CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS. SO I GET CONCERNED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING A SIMILAR STRATEGY. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA TELL FOLKS? I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO THE CHAPEL OF THE HOLY CROSS CONTINUE TO WAIT IN THIS LINE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TALK ABOUT IT, BRIAN. 'CAUSE YOU LIVE THERE, YOU SEE IT EVERY DAY. DO YOU SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING THERE JUST TO DRIVE BY AND NOT GO TO THE CHAPEL? WELL, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE BACK IN YET, SO NO, I DON'T SEE IT EVERY DAY. BUT I GET TO HEAR ABOUT, I'M SORRY TO BRING THAT UP FROM MY NEIGHBORS UP. SO, UM, I THINK THINK ABOUT IT LIKE SLIDE ROCK. SO AT SLIDE ROCK, THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THE INBOUND LANE GETS COMPLETELY FULL. THE, UH, OFF RAMP FROM 89 A GETS FULL, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEY DON'T LET YOU STAY IN LINE AND BLOCK TRAFFIC. YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON. LIKE NOT WANTING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM FROM THE DAIS RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO JUST BACK UP THE TRAFFIC. MM-HMM . THAT A TC A S WHATEVER, TCA IS GONNA KEEP THINGS MOVING. RIGHT. LIKE, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO HAVE TO BE A PART OF THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. EXACTLY. TO YOUR POINT, LAUREN, WITH FATHER IGNATIUS, UM, ABOUT THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE IN A COORDINATED STRATEGY AND, UM, LEMME LEAVE IT THERE. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE REQUESTS HAS BEEN, HEY, HOW ABOUT A TIMED ENTRY SYSTEM? RIGHT? AND THEY'VE BEEN RESISTANT TO THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE, WHAT'S THAT? WE'RE TAKING THE DISNEY MODEL OF TIMED, TIMED RIDES. RIGHT? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE NATIONAL PARKS. I MEAN, IT'S TIMED ENTRY TO ARCHES NATIONAL PARK NOW. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE STRATEGY. SO GO AHEAD, ANDY. I WAS JUST GONNA OFFER THAT WE WILL MEET BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS TRANSIT PROBABLY, AND WE'VE HAD AN INITIAL MEETING LAST WEEK TO KIND OF DEBRIEF ON THE SITUATION YEAH. AND HAVE A PLAN FOR SPRING BREAK FOR THE IMMEDIATE NEED. BUT FOR THIS LONGER, LITTLE BIT LONGER, UH, CONSIDERATION, WE WILL COME BACK IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AND PROPOSE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR YOU. INVOLVE GAIL IN THAT TOO. OKAY. ONCE YOU, YOU KNOW, GET HER FEEDBACK. YEP. GOTCHA. OKAY. UH, CHIEF QUESTION, WHAT IS, AND OR THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR KURT, WHAT'S THE TYPICAL, WHAT'S THE NORMAL PARKING FUND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? IT DEPENDS, BUT IT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED TO 160. OKAY. KURT, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO TARGETED INCREASES IN SORT OF HIGH RISK NEIGHBORHOODS? I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY PULLS UP TO THE PARKING SIGN THAT SAYS A HUNDRED DOLLARS FINE, THEY MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, WELL, I REALLY WANNA SEE THE CHAPEL. I'LL PARK AND I'LL PAY THE FINE. BUT IF IT'S $500, THEY MIGHT THINK DIFFERENTLY. UH, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. UM, LAST TIME WE CHECKED, WE WERE ON THE HIGHER END OF ALL THIS, ALL THE CITIES IN NORTHERN ARIZONA ALREADY. WE HAD MOVED OURSELVES, POSITIONED OURSELVES JUST ABOVE LIKE FLAGSTAFF AND PRESCOTT. UM, THERE IS, BUT WE'RE NOT FLAGSTAFF SCENARIOS WHERE THE COURTS HAVE DEEMED THE FINES TO BE EXCESSIVE IF YOU GET TOO HIGH'S. SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, EVEN IF IT'S BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A SPECIFIC, NO, IT'S NEVER BEEN ISSUE ISSUE IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S A SAFETY, SAFETY ISSUE CASE IS FROM LOS ANGELES. AND IT WAS KIND OF JUST A BLANKET CITYWIDE ONE, IT WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TO CERTAIN AREA. AND WE COULD CERTAINLY DO SOME TARGETED FINES FOR CERTAIN AREAS. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MY ONE SUGGESTION. ME CHANGING OUT THE SIGNS TO TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING A HELL OF A LOT MORE IF THEY PARK HERE. TH THIS IS ACTUALLY WHY THERE WAS SUCH A HARD PUSH FOR THINGS LIKE BOOTING AND TOWING AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE PAST. WE HAVEN'T HAD DAVID HERE UNTIL JUST RECENTLY. SO I KNOW HE'S JUST DYING TO TAKE AN ANO TAKE ON ANOTHER THING. AND, UH, SO HE LOOKS , HE LOOKS, HE LOOKS THRILLED. . THE STORIES I CAN TELL, PART OF, PART OF THE CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET TO LIKE THE CHAPEL AND BACKHOE BEYOND WAS TOWING WAS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE OF THE NARROW ROADWAYS. SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT WHERE [02:35:01] WE HAVE FINES AND OUR NEXT THING WOULD BE TOWING WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO. BUT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE BUSY WEEKENDS OR LIKE WHAT SPRING BREAK IS GONNA BRING, THEY'RE ALSO BEING USED FOR COLLISIONS AND OTHER AREAS AND OTHER CITIES' NEEDS. SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET A TOW TRUCK IN THERE. YEAH. TO DO WHAT WE WOULD DO THE NEXT LAYER BECAUSE OF EMERGENCY MAN OR EMERGENCY VEHICLES NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN THERE TO MANAGE THE SCENE. WE JUST START, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE TICKETING OR WE'RE CLOSING, WHICH IS WHY WE WENT MORE TOWARDS THE BOOTING YES. SIDE. RIGHT. THE HOPE IS THAT SOMEONE SEES BOOTS ON VEHICLES AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, I'M NOT DOING THAT. I'M THE ONE WHO HAD THE DECOY SUGGESTION. OH, RIGHT. PARK A CAR THERE, PUT A BOOT ON IT. PEOPLE DRIVE UP, GO, S**T, I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THAT . RIGHT. WE SEND A MESSAGE OUT TO THE UNIVERSE, THERE MAY BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS AROUND BOOTING , BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S NOBODY TO DO IT. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE BEEN CAUGHT ON CHAPEL THERE RECENTLY, SEVERAL TIMES WITH THIS CLUSTER. UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S ADDING TO IT ARE ILLEGAL U-TURNS THE ATTEMPTED, WELL, THEY RESULT IN THEM, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'VE GOT THE LINE GOING UP TO THE CHAPEL AND THEN ONE PERSON DECIDES THEY'VE WAITED IT TOO MUCH AND THEY TRY TO MAKE THAT U-TURN. AND EXACTLY TO YOU POINTED ABOUT A TOW TRUCK NOT CAME THROUGH. IT'S TOO NARROW. THEY CAN'T, CARS ARE PARKED THERE, PEOPLE ARE WALKING FROM OTHER POINTS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A U-TURN. AND THEN THE THREE CARS BACK SEES IT AND GETS INSPIRED AND THEY SAY, OH, I'LL GET OUT OF THIS TOO AND DO A U-TURN. YOU'VE NOT NOW GOT TWO POINTS THAT HAVE STOPPED ANY KIND OF FORWARD MOVEMENT. AND THEN OF COURSE, SOMEBODY ELSE GETS INSPIRED. HOW, HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT STOPPING THE U-TURNS THERE? SO THIS WILL BE PART, IF YOU'VE MADE THE DECISION TO GO NOW YOU'RE STUCK. YOU DON'T GET TO TURN AROUND AND GO BACK. SO BE PART OF WHAT WE WORKED THROUGH. I'LL, I'LL JUST QUICKLY SAY THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE TURN AROUND PEOPLE AT THE HIGHWAY ON BACK OF BEYOND. YES, EXACTLY. SO, BUT IT'S PART OF WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT. SO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THIS 66 DAY MINDSET FROM OUR RETREAT. WE GOT LESS THAN 66 DAYS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER BY SPRING BREAK. YEAH. SO THERE'S A GOOD CHALLENGE FOR US. OKAY. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. WE ARE REALLY WOEFULLY BEHIND. LET ME, MY PARKING UPDATE IS GONNA BE REALLY BRIEF, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT DETAIL TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER ON JANUARY 27TH. UH, SO JUST GOING TO THE OVERVIEW, UM, PARKING IS A SIGNIFICANT DRIVER OF CONGESTION CIRCULATION IN SEDONA. AND THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN EMPHASIZES MANAGING DEMAND RATHER THAN RELYING SOLELY ON EXPANDING PARKING SUPPLY. SO PARKING STRATEGIES WERE DESIGNED TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH TRANSIT TO TRY TO REDUCE VEHICLE CIRCULATION, IMPROVE ACCESS, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY. UM, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIES PARKING AS KEY STRATEGIES AND THE TMP ALSO IDENTIFIES WHERE THESE STRATEGIES ARE MOST IMPORTANT. NEXT SLIDE. UH, THE TMP, UH, THE MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED PRIORITY AREAS SUCH AS UP HE UPTOWN, TRAIL HEADS, OAK CREEK CANYON, AND NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE AREAS EXPERIENCE THE HIGHEST DEMAND AND THE GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR SPILLOVER IMPACTS. AND THEY ALSO ARE WHERE COORDINATED STRATEGIES CAN PROVIDE THE MOST BENEFIT. UH, THIS BRINGS US FROM OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING INTO NEAR TERM IMPLEMENTATION. AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN 27, UH, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THIS ROLLED OUT IN 26, AS ANDY DISCUSSED WITH THE UPTOWN GARAGE COMING ONLINE, PARKING MANAGEMENT IS MOVING INTO AN IMPLEMENTATION PHASE RATHER THAN A PLANNING PHASE, WHICH WHAT WE'VE WORKED ON THIS, THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, AND YOU WILL RECEIVE IT REFLECTED IN THE 27 CIP CONSIDERATIONS AS WE ROLL OUT THOSE STRATEGIES AND THEY ROLL OVER FROM 26 TO 27. UH, WE'VE WORKED TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION THAT ARE READY AS THE GARAGE OPENING OPENS. THIS WILL INCLUDE PLANNING FOR MANAGED ACCESS, PARKING TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION WITH TRANSIT AND CIRCULATION, AS YOU'LL SEE THE UPTOWN CIRCULATOR RECOMMENDATIONS COMING TO YOU. UH, AND ENSURING NEIGHBORHOOD TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE IF AND WHEN, CONDITIONS WARRANT AND THE CREATION OF A PARKING WORKING GROUP, WHICH WE JUST NOTIFIED US APP APPLICANTS TODAY ON, IF THEY WERE SELECTED, IT'S A 10 MEMBER GROUP. THE FIRST MEETING IS ON THE 21ST, AND THEN THE SECOND MEETING IS ON THE 28TH. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR OUR COUNCIL CHAMPIONS TO TAKE PART IN THAT AND, UH, UNDERSTAND SO YOU CAN, WE CAN SHARE ALL OF THE FUN THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE IMPLEMENTING VERY SOON. UH, AS THE GARAGE OPENS, UH, PARKING MANAGEMENT IS MOVING FROM THIS PHASE INTO AN IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, AND WE'RE GONNA BE USING TECHNOLOGY AND STRATEGIES [02:40:01] TO MANAGE THIS EFFECTIVELY WHILE MAINTAINING FLEXIBILITY AND COUNSEL OVERSIGHT. AND THERE'LL BE A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF THIS AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN 27. I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN ON JANUARY 27TH, I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S A VERY SHORT PARKING UPDATE FOR RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE AFTER GARAGE IMPLEMENTATION. THANK YOU, AMBER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AMBER? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, I THINK WE GOING. SUSTAINABILITY. SUSTAINABILITY. THANKS DAVID. SO THANK YOU, BRYCE. NICE TO SEE YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. UM, MY NAME'S, OR GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MAYOR OF, UH, VICE MAYOR AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL. UH, MY NAME IS BRYCE BECK, SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. I'LL COVER THE, UH, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. UH, BOTH OF THESE, UH, WE'LL COVER THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OVER BE FIRST, UH, QUICK CAVEAT WITH BOTH OF THOSE PLANS. THEY'RE VERY, UH, HEAVY IN OPERATIONAL PROGRAMMING. UH, AND SO FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE TRIED TO NARROW IT JUST TO THE CIP EFFORTS. UM, WE'LL HAVE A, UH, SESSION THAT'S COMING UP IN LATE FEBRUARY THAT WILL GO THROUGH ALL THE OPERATIONAL, UH, PROGRAMMING ELEMENTS, UH, RELATED TO BOTH OF THE PLANS. THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UH, ITSELF WAS ADOPTED IN JULY OF 2021. HAD A, UH, KIND OF EFFECTIVE PLANNING HORIZON, UH, THAT WAS AIMING FOR, UH, 2030. UM, AND I WON'T READ THE THE VISION THERE STATEMENT FOR YOU, BUT ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO TAKE OUR COMMUNITY AND ADOPT, UH, ADAPT IT, UH, AND MITIGATE, UH, CONCERNS WITH THE CHANGE IN CLIMATE AND BUILD RESILIENCY INTO OUR OPERATIONS FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS WELL AS THE CITY AS A WHOLE. THE ONE KIND OF LIKE MAIN DRIVER OR, UH, MAIN TARGET NUMBER THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ROUTINELY IS THE, UH, REDUCTION, UH, REDUCTION GOAL FOR EMISSIONS COMMUNITY EMISSIONS, UH, BY 50% BY 2030. UH, IT WAS ON OUR, UH, WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO GET TO THE, THE, UH, PRESENTATION IN EARLY DECEMBER. UH, AND SO WE HAVE THE INVENTORIES ALL, UH, DONE AND READY TO GO. THAT WILL ALSO BE AT OUR, UH, GO IN A DEEPER DIVE ON THE EMISSION SIDE OF THINGS AT OUR FEBRUARY SESSION. UH, OVERALL EMISSIONS ARE DOWN, UH, FROM THE 2018 BASELINE. UM, WE STILL HAVE MUCH WORK, MORE WORK TO DO WITHIN THAT, BUT WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS, UH, WITHIN THAT. BUT WE CAN, UH, DO A DEEPER DIVE ON EMISSIONS, UH, AT THAT TIME AS WELL. UH, IF, UH, IF YOU GUYS WANNA DO THAT NOW, THEN BY ALL MEANS, BUT, UH, THIS ASPECT IS, UH, WE, THAT'S A CONTINUAL THING THAT WE WORK ON WITHIN OUR MUNICIPAL, UH, EMISSIONS INVENTORIES AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY ONE. UM, I KNOW YOU WANNA GO DEEP THEN, BUT JUST, DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE? WE'RE DOWN BY HOW MUCH, UH, YEAR TO BASELINE IS 8% BELOW, UH, 2018 BASELINE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU. DID YOU SAY EIGHT 8%? YEP. UH, FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS IS ABOUT 50%. SO, UM, BUT, UH, THE PROGRAMMING AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT, UH, ARE LISTED HERE. UH, IT GIVES US A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS THAT WE TACKLE, UH, WITHIN THE, WITHIN OUR SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMMING AND OPERATIONS. UH, WHICH ALSO MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS WITHIN ALL THOSE, UH, THOSE TOPICAL CATEGORIES. UH, BUT AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM AMBER, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, KURT AND ANDY AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP, UH, BETWEEN OUR EFFORTS AND SHARED USE PASS AND, UH, AS WELL AS WASTE WASTEWATER AND AQUIFER RECHARGE, UM, AND TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND SO ON. UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE OPERATIONAL, UH, BASIS. SO I'M GONNA SKIP THIS ONE. THE NEARLY EVERY ONE OF OUR, UH, PROJECTS, THERE'S 50 ACTION ITEMS IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. VAST MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE OPERATIONALLY BASED. UH, SO EACH ONE OF THESE, UH, THAT'S ON THIS SECTION IS ACTUALLY A OPERATIONAL COMPONENT. UH, I WON'T GO INTO THIS ONE IN GREAT DETAIL 'CAUSE YOU GUYS JUST WENT THROUGH THIS, UH, A LOT. BUT IT KIND OF SHOW THAT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UH, HAS DISTINCT OVERLAP WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLANNING AND STEPS PROGRAMMING, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UH, THE PUBLIC TRANSIT INVESTMENTS. THOSE ON AN EMISSION SIDE OF THINGS HAVE BEEN GREATLY HELPFUL. UH, IT'S AVOIDED, IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBER. UH, IT'S ABOUT 400 OR SO METRIC TONS OF EMISSIONS ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE JUST FOR 2024. UH, AND SO WE'RE, UH, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN GREATLY HELPFUL ON THE MISSIONS AS WELL AS BUILDING IN RESILIENCY PIECE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AS AMBER HAS MENTIONED, BEING ABLE TO GET COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS DOCTOR'S VISITS AND GO TO GROCERY STORES AND WHATNOT WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION AND SO ON. SO IT OVERLAPS THE NUMBER OF COMPONENTS THAT WE HAVE. [02:45:01] AND THEN AS SANDY WENT OVER, ALL THOSE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET OUTTA THEIR VEHICLES, UH, TRAVEL BY MULTIMODAL FORMS, AS WELL AS REDUCE THE, THE MILES THAT ARE DRIVEN, DRIVEN ON OUR ROADWAYS AS WELL. AND THEN THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING EFFORTS, THOSE ARE ONGOING, UH, AS THE, UH, POSSE GROUNDS, UH, PARK, UM, DC FAST CHARGERS WERE INSTALLED A FEW YEARS AGO AS THE DC FAST CHARGERS COME ONLINE FOR THE UPTOWN PARKING GARAGE FROM A PUBLIC FOCUSED, UH, CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FOR A CITY OUR SIZE, WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL. UH, WE'D HAVE, UH, WE'D HAVE CHARGERS THAT ARE FROM, UH, UPTOWN LOCATION AT SUNSET PARK, AT POSSE GROUNDS PARK AT CITY HALL. SO WE'RE STARTING TO COVER A PRETTY GOOD BASIS, UH, A RANGE FROM WITHIN THAT. UM, AND THE STATE IS ALSO GOING THROUGH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE, WHAT THEY CALL THEIR NEVY PLAN, UH, WHICH IS STILL MOVING FORWARD. UH, THAT PLAN WAS TARGETING A DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, CHARGING SITES ALONG STATE ROUTES AND INTERSTATES. THAT WAS LIKE EVERY 50 MILES OR SO YOU WOULD HAVE A CHARGING STATION WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE STATE ROUTE OR THE INTERSTATE, UH, THAT WOULD IMPROVE ON THAT, UH, THOSE COMPONENTS. SO FROM A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE CHARGING LOCATION, WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL THERE. UH, I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION OR, UH, ADDITIONAL LIKE DATA ON, ON HOW THE DC FAST CHARGERS OR POSSE GROUNDS ARE DOING, UH, IN RELATION TO THE OTHER, UH, ADDITIONAL FAST CHARGERS THAT, UH, WE HAVE IN THE STATE DATA LOCATIONS. BUT OVERALL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, BEING VERY WELL UTILIZED, UH, AND THE LIKE. AND SO WE'RE KIND OF IN A, A APPROACH OF ONCE THE UPTOWN PARKING GARAGE ONES COME ONLINE TO KIND OF SEE HOW THAT THOSE ONES ARE AFFECTING IT BEFORE I TRY TO, UH, GO DOWN A FURTHER RABBIT HOLE, UH, WITH, UH, CAPITAL COSTS AND SO ON. UH, WITH THOSE PROJECTS, UH, ALL OF THE PUBLICLY FACING CHARGERS THAT WE HAVE AS JUST A HIGHLIGHT OR, OR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE DONE, THE ONES HERE AT CITY HALL, UH, THE CHARGEPOINT ONES IN PARTICULAR, UM, AND THEN THE POSSE GROUNDS AND UPTOWN AND SUNSET, THOSE WERE ALL THROUGH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS. SO IF WE WERE TO BRING ONE OF THOSE FORWARD, I WOULD LOOK TO A SIMILAR PARTNERSHIP TO REDUCE THAT CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, UH, ON OUR END IF THAT WERE TO COME FORWARD. AND THE, WHAT'S THE MIX IN THE GARAGE BETWEEN, UH, LEVEL TWO AND THE FAST CHARGERS? UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE GOING IN THE UPTOWN GARAGE SHOULD BE DC FAST CHARGERS. UH, SO THERE SHOULD BE LEVEL THREES. HOW MANY, UH, I THINK THERE'S, UH, PLANNING FOR EIGHT, POTENTIAL EXPANSION TO 10, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. AND THAT'S ELECTRIFY AMERICA. YES. DO WE RECOVER ANY OF THE CAPITAL COSTS BASED ON USAGE? OR HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? GREAT QUESTION. SO FOR THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR, UH, CHARGEPOINT ONES, UH, THOSE WERE THE LEVEL TWO CHARGERS THAT WERE INSTALLED HERE AT CITY HALL AND, UH, SUNSET PARK. THOSE ONES WERE DONE AT NO COST, UH, TO THE CITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT WAS DONE THROUGH A PROGRAM WITH A PS CALLED TAKE CHARGE. UH, SO WE ESSENTIALLY LIKE ALLOWED, UH, ALLOWED THE USE OF THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT FOR IT. AND THEN THE CHARGERS WERE PUT AND INSTALLED BY A PS FOR THE CHARGEPOINT CHARGERS, THOSE LEVEL TWO CHARGERS. WE GET TO MANAGE THE, UM, AND SET THE COSTS FOR THEM. UM, AND SO, BUT SINCE IT HASN'T REALLY COST US ANYTHING, UH, FOR IT, WE'VE GENERALLY HAD A PRETTY LOW OR ZERO, UH, FEE FORM TRYING TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO, TO UTILIZE THEM FOR, AND THE SAME GOES FOR THE DC FAST CHARGERS. UH, WE GAVE THE, THE, ESSENTIALLY THE LAND SPACE FOR 'EM. UM, AND SO ALL OF THAT CAPITAL COSTS, THE CHARGERS THEMSELVES AT THE TIME CAN RANGE FROM ABOUT 150 TO $200,000 JUST FOR THE CHARGER. THOSE WERE ALL INSTALLED AT NO COST. UH, IN LIEU OF THAT, THEN ELECTRIFY AMERICA GETS TO SET THE RATE FOR THE CHARGING. AND DO WE GET ANY CUT OF THE RATE, OR IS IT JUST WE DO, WE DO NOT GET A CUT OF THE RATE ON ANY OF THEM. OUR, BESIDES THE CHARGEPOINT ONES, IF WE SET THE RATE FOR THOSE LEVEL TWOS, WE WOULD GET A REVENUE CHECK. OKAY. FROM CHARGEPOINT. BUT FOR THE ELECTRIFY AMERICA ONES, THOSE WOULD BE, THOSE ARE DISTINCTLY ELECTRIFY AMERICA'S PURVIEW. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UH, FOR THE MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, IT KIND OF JUST TAKES AND BOILS DOWN THOSE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ELEMENTS INTO SIMILAR TOPICAL AREAS. UH, IT HAS ONE SLIGHT CHANGE, UH, WITHIN IT, UM, THAT I'LL GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT THE, UH, MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED BEFORE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IN 2020. WE DID A REVISION UPDATE IN THAT IN 2024. WE KEPT THE SAME TIMING HORIZON. UH, LOOKING AT 2030, IT FOCUSES ON THE SAME ASPECTS OF CLIMATE MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION, BUT MORE INTERNALLY FOR OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS. UH, THAT MAIN CHANGE, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO PLANS, IT DOESN'T SET A 50% GOAL LIKE IT DOES WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT SETS A CARBON NEUTRAL GOAL. UH, THAT GOAL WAS SLIGHTLY REVISED IN THE 2024 PLAN. 'CAUSE WHEN WE MADE IT IN 2020, UH, THAT CARBON NEUTRAL IS A VERY BROAD TERM TO JUST BLANKET STATEMENT CARBON NEUTRAL OPERATIONS. UM, AND AS WE GO THROUGH WITH OUR EMISSIONS INVENTORIES, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SCOPES WITHIN THAT. WE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO MORE SCOPES, ONES AND TWOS, [02:50:01] THE DISTINCT, UH, THINGS THAT WE PHYSICALLY LIKE, CONTROL AND OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY OF SEDONA, NOT SO MUCH ON THE PURCHASING AND GOOD SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH IS MORE SCOPE THREE, UH, WHICH I'LL GET TO, UH, QUICKLY IN THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE. UH, SO THESE, THESE GOALS, THESE GOAL AREAS ARE KIND OF THE ONES THAT HAVE THE MOST CIP IMPLICATIONS THAT'LL COVER IN THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, BUT, UH, KIND OF TIES INTO MAKING SURE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE'S RESILIENT AND THEN BRINGING ON RENEWABLES WHERE WE CAN, UH, AND BRINGING ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SO ON. UH, AS COUNCIL, UH, APPROVED LAST MONTH WITH THE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOLUTIONS CONSULTING FIRM, THERE'S SO MANY ACRONYMS, LET'S TRY AND REMEMBER IT. UH, BUT WITH THAT, UH, CONTRACT THAT STARTS KIND OF GETTING THE WHEELS ROLLING FOR OUR CAP EFFORTS. UH, AND THEN AS YOU'LL NOTE FOR OBJECTIVE 5.3, UH, THE ACTION, THERE'S AN OBJECTIVE. THERE'S ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE BELOW IT. THE ACTION ITEMS REALLY PERTAIN TO SCOPE THREE, UH, HAD COMPONENTS OF LIKE TESTING OUT, UH, LOW CARBON, CONCRETE, UM, AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION OPTIONS. WE HAVEN'T REALLY STARTED THOSE. AND THOSE ARE ALSO KIND OF A, A SHIFTED GOAL FROM THE CARBON NEUTRAL PIECE, UH, THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR OPERATIONS. ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS MY LAST, LAST SLIDE. UH, SO, UH, AS COUNCIL WENT THROUGH LAST, UM, LAST EARLY DECEMBER, UM, FOR THE CONTRACT, I PRESENTED A SIMILAR SLIDE TO THIS. UM, THE CS 10 DECARBONIZATION PLANNING AND DESIGN, WHICH, UH, WHICH ALL YOU ALL APPROVED, UM, HAS ESSENTIALLY KICKS OFF EVERY PROJECT THAT'S ON THIS LIST BEHIND IT, IT DOES THAT INITIAL PLANNING AND DESIGN WORK FOR US. AND WE'RE ABLE TO THEN BE ABLE TO GET OUT, UH, AND GET MORE, UH, REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS AND SO ON TO REFINE THESE NUMBERS. UH, 'CAUSE EACH ONE OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET, WERE BASED OFF OF THE DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP. UH, THAT GAVE US, UH, ROUGH ESTIMATES FOR THAT, UH, FOR OUR PLANNING PURPOSES. UH, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO TARGET WITHIN THE, UH, CS 10 PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IS TO BE ABLE TO GET REFINED DRAWINGS AND DESIGNS TO HELP US, UH, BE ABLE TO CRAFT THESE NUMBERS, UH, REFINE THESE NUMBERS MORE, AS WELL AS HELP US TARGET MORE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, IN THE FUTURE. UH, WITH THAT, THE CIP BUDGET NUMBERS THAT WE, WE HAVE HERE RIGHT NOW ALSO DON'T INCORPORATE, UH, OR DON'T SHOW, UH, EFFICIENCY SAVINGS FROM REDUCTION, REDUCTION IN UTILITY USAGE OR, UM, SOURCING MORE SOLAR, UH, ENERGY AND THE LIKE ON SITE. SO IT'S JUST, UH, LIKE THE DIRECT SPEND THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. UH, I TOOK THE, WHAT WE PRESENTED IN DECEMBER TOOK THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL HAD AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT. UM, THIS WAS THE FIRST ATTEMPT TO KIND OF, UM, KIND OF, WE HAD A SPIKE THAT OCCURRED NEXT YEAR, AND I WAS TRYING TO BALANCE THAT OUT, UM, WITHIN THAT. UM, AND JUST WITH OUR TIMING, WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE SUSTAIN THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING CON CONTRACT AND WHERE WE AT THE PROJECTS, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR KINDA SHIFTED TO FY 27. AND THEN I TRIED TO REMOVE THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS THAT WE HAD WITHIN THE BUDGET, UH, FOR THAT. BUT AS BARBARA AND LIKE, WE'LL GO THROUGH, UH, WITHIN THE CIP STUFF. BUT, UH, THIS IS A COMPONENT OF JUST OUR FIRST SHOT TO TRY TO MEET WHAT YOU, WHAT THE FEEDBACK WAS, UH, FROM COUNCIL DURING THE RETREAT. AND THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, BRYCE. I, I WANT TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, I BELIEVE FOR, UH, SCOPE 15 THERE. LIKE WE ASKED, LIKE THAT'S ALL EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA REPLACE BE REPLACED AT END OF LIFE, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO, TO LINE UP THOSE, UH, REPLACEMENTS WITH THE REPLACEMENT END OF LIFE. YES. OKAY. BUT THE REST OF THE STUFF IS LARGELY INCREMENTAL TO ACHIEVE THE DECARBONIZATION GOALS FOR THE, FOR, IT'S NOT REALLY AN END OF LIFE EXPENDITURE OR REPLACEMENT. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. UM, I DO THINK IT'S SOBERING. LIKE I, I'LL TAKE OUT THE HVAC 3.6 MILLION AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $10 MILLION INVESTMENT OVER FIVE YEARS FOR DECARBONIZATION. I, I PERSONALLY REALLY WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW DOES THAT 10 MILLION COMPARE WITH OTHER EXPENDITURES WE COULD OR WILL MAKE? AND WHETHER THIS REALLY RISES TO THE TOP. IS THIS, DOES THIS BECOME NICE TO HAVE? OR DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO THIS AND WE'RE IN AN, IN AN ENVIABLE POSITION IN THIS CITY THAT WE CAN LARGELY FUND WHATEVER IT IS WE WANT TO FUND. MM-HMM . AND RARELY HAVE TO MAKE TRADE OFFS. AND IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS A CASE WHERE I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY, I WANNA BE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A TRADE OFF PERSPECTIVE OF IS THIS THE BEST THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE $10 MILLION OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD? AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M OPPOSED, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I THINK WE SHOULD BE TAKING [02:55:01] THAT MINDSET TO THINGS THAT AT FACE VALUE, DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE MUST DO OR HAVE TO DO. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, FROM A CIP BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, IT, IT'S NOT A SLAM DUNK TO ME THAT, THAT I WOULD WANNA SAY YES TO THIS WHEN THE TIME COMES. WELL, I THINK ALSO IF YOU REMOVE THE ELECTRIFICATION, BUT ALSO THE EV IN INFRASTRUCTURES, WHICH IS ALMOST 4 MILLION BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET IT PAID FOR BY OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, RIGHT? SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ON THIS LIST, UH, IS FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS. THE, WHAT I AM, I'M HOPEFUL IN ANTICIPATING IS THAT THAT 3.8 NUMBER THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THERE THAT CAN BE REVISED DOWN THE, UH, ORIGINAL, UM, DECARBONIZATION ROADMAP KIND OF, UH, PLANNED FOR LIKE BEES TO THE KNEES, BEST CASE SCENARIO, ALMOST EVERY VEHICLE GETS A CHARGER COMPONENT. UM, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A, UH, A PROJECT WITH, UH, UH, A PS TO DO A KIND OF A MANAGED CHARGING, UM, SCENARIO TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT NUMBER COULD BE DRIVEN DOWN. UM, AND THAT NUMBER, UH, THEN WAS REVISED CLOSER TO ABOUT 40 OR SO. SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE CAN DRIVE THAT EV INFRASTRUCTURE NUMBER DOWN FOR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS PIECE, UM, TO THE, IF, IF I, IF I MAY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD OR COULD DO IT OR WHATNOT. UH, I I THINK DISREGARDING THE, IN MY OPINION, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAVE OVER GHG EMISSIONS AS LIKE, IT'S A NICE THING FOR US TO REDUCE, BUT NOT REALLY CRITICAL, I WOULD ARGUE, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. UM, IT'S A COMPONENT THAT WE'RE SEEING IT NOW, WE'RE SEEING A, A CHANGE IN OUR CLIMATE. WE'RE SEEING HIGHER TEMPERATURES, WE'RE SEEING HIGHER RATE OF FOREST FIRE AND THE LIKE. AND WHILE OUR CONTRIBUTION OF EMISSIONS IS RELATIVELY SMALL TO GLOBAL SCALES AND, AND THE US AND THE, LIKE, WE STILL HAVE A PART TO PLAY IN REDUCING THAT. SO THE NOTION OF JUST LIKE, WELL, IT'S NICE TO DO, I DON'T REALLY VIEW IT AS THAT. IT'S KINDA LIKE WE NEED TO DO THAT 'CAUSE IT'S DOING OUR PART TO TRY TO TO, TO MITIGATE WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH CLIMATE ACTIONS. YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNIMPORTANT, BUT I AM INFLUENCED BY, YOU KNOW, BILL GATES RECENTLY WROTE ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT OTHER THINGS WE ALSO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IN THIS WORLD BESIDES GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. THAT, THAT'S WHAT CHALLENGES ME IS THINKING ABOUT THAT. AND, AND I ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT IT ACTUALLY FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT IN THE FORM OF RESILIENCE AND RESILIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT NOT STRICTLY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE. AND ARE THERE INVESTMENTS THAT WE SHOULD MAKE IN THE RESILIENCE OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE VERY TANGIBLE BENEFIT OF OUR PEOPLE ON A MORE DAY-TO-DAY BASIS? AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS KIND OF NEBULOUS, BUT IT'S, FOR ME, IT'S THINGS LIKE BUILDING COMMUNITY WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE LOST IT BECAUSE OF SHORT TERM RENTAL PROLIFERATION. AND I ACTUALLY THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES PROGRAM, I LIKE THAT. RIGHT? AND I'D LOVE TO SEE US, ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS PARTICIPATE IN THAT. AND HONESTLY, I'D STICK SOME, I'D PROBABLY STICK MORE MONEY INTO THAT THAN SOME OF THIS. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF, THAT'S WHAT I'M GRAPPLING WITH IS, IS THAT NOTION OF, YES, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T BURN UP OUR ENVIRONMENT, BUT MAN, THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS AND YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OTHER ONES THAT ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL NEED TO WEIGH OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE WE SLOW THIS DOWN SO THAT WE CAN DO SOME OTHER THINGS. I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE OPEN TO THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. GOTCHA. KATHY, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE RAISING. I HAVE TO SAY, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE IS, UH, THE NATIONAL, SORT OF, THE FLAVOR OF THE NATIONAL DIALOGUE HAS, UM, BACKED OFF OF RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENERGY CONSUMPTION. AND THESE THINGS ARE, ARE ENERGY CONSUMPTION ISSUES FOR ME AND THE ENERGY CRISIS, IF YOU WANNA SEPARATE THAT OUT FROM CLIMATE CHANGE IS STILL A VERY REAL THING. AND I DON'T, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE NOT INFLUENCED BY LACK OF SORT OF MORE NATIONAL INTEREST FILTERING DOWN INTO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND AGREED WITH IS SOMETHING WHERE WE WANTED TO MAKE CHANGES FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW WE INTERPLAY REGIONALLY AS WELL AS ON THE STATE LEVEL, UH, TO REDUCE OUR CARBON EMISSIONS. SO I AM, I AM, UM, UM, I'M GETTING A LOT OF RED FLAGS RAISED BY WHERE YOU'RE SORT OF GOING WITH THIS. SO YOU ASKED IF THERE WAS SUPPORT, AND THAT'S MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. JUST LIKE WE ARE REEVA REEVALUATING WHERE WE ARE WITH TRANSIT, WHERE WE ARE WITH SIM, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I MEAN, ONE OF YOU JUST, I THINK IT WAS YOU MAYOR THAT JUST ASKED THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION OF WHERE ARE WE ON THE, YOU KNOW, GHG [03:00:01] REDUCTION FOR THE CITY OVERALL, AND WE'RE AT 8% AGAINST A 50% GOAL THAT WE NOW ARE DOWN TO FOUR YEARS TO HIT. I ASKED IT. YOU ASKED THAT. OKAY. SORRY. UM, SO ANYWAYS, UM, I JUST WANT US TO BE WILLING TO EXAMINE AND SAY, OKAY, ARE WE ON TRACK? RIGHT? BUT WE'RE, BUT I THINK WHAT I HEARD WOULD MOVE US FURTHER AWAY FROM WE'RE AT 8%, WE WANNA BE AT 50%. AND WHAT I, WHAT I HEARD MAYBE INCORRECTLY WOULD MOVE US FURTHER AWAY FROM GETTING TO THAT 50%. AND I'M NOT, I DO NOT, I'M NOT AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT CHANGING THAT TARGET. WE'VE HAD DEBATE BEFORE ABOUT WHETHER MAINTAINING AN EYE ON A 50% REDUCTION IS REALISTIC WHEN WE'VE GOT A MILE TO GO, STILL MANY MILES TO GO AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A FULL PLAN. AND CARBON OFFSETS IN MY VIEW, IS NOT A PLAN. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT LOCAL, THAT'S NOT REALLY IMPACTING OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE. AND YES, I KNOW IT ALL DISPERSES INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AND HAS A NET EFFECT, I GET THAT. BUT, UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA BURN UP THE ENVIRONMENT EITHER. OKAY. I DON'T WANT FIRES. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE WILLING TO SAY, IS THIS STILL? ARE WE, ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK? AND IS THIS WORTH CONTINUING TO INVEST AT THIS LEVEL IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO ANYWAYS? WELL, THAT, THAT'LL BE, IT'S BRYCE, THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE MEET ON THIS AGAIN, YOU'LL BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS. YES, I, I CAN DEFINITELY DISCUSS THAT. UM, MY QUICK THING THAT I WOULD THROW OUT THERE IS THAT WITHIN THAT SAY 10 MILLION BY THE HVAC ELECTRIFICATION TRYING TO TARGET REPLACEMENT THE DEAD END OF LIFE, UM, THE INITIAL ESTIMATE THAT WE HAD FOR COST SAVINGS AND UTILITIES WAS ABOUT 6 MILLION. WHAT WE'RE HEARING RIGHT NOW, SO FAR THROUGH A PS AND OR SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS AND THE, LIKE, THAT UTILITY INCREASES IN THE ENERGY FIELD ARE GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY GO UP, UH, IN THE FUTURE. SO FROM A STANDPOINT FOR, I GUESS TWO POINTS ON FOR OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS AND LIKE, IS THAT WE'RE AVOIDING INCREASED COST ON OUR UTILITIES LONG TERM. SO FROM A FINANCIAL OPERATION, I THINK THOSE SAVINGS CAN BE INCREASED, BUT FROM ALSO A COMPONENT OF JUST HOW WE LOOK AT THE, THE PROJECTS OUR TEAM TRIES TO AVOID LOOKING AT A PROJECT AS LIKE A SINGULAR, LIKE WE ONLY DO A MITIGATION, WE ONLY DO AN ADAPTATION PIECE. WE TRY TO BLEND THE OVERVIEW OF THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER TO GET A MORE, UH, HOLISTIC APPROACH WITH THEM. UH, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE DECARBONIZATION PLANNING AND DESIGN A PORTION OF THE SCOPES THAT WE INCLUDED IN THAT PROJECT WHERE FOR A MICROGRID ASSESSMENT THAT WOULD IMPROVE ON RESILIENCY FOR SAY, CITY HALL HERE IN THE EVENT OF AN OUTAGE, THAT YOU'D STILL HAVE CRITICAL SERVICES RUNNING, UH, AN EVENT OF LIKE A, A CLIMATE EMERGENCY OR LIKE, UH, AND ANOTHER COMPONENT OF IT WAS, UH, CONSIDERATION CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR LIKE HEAT MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION STRATEGIES. UH, AND AS, UH, AMBER AND UH, LIKE I MENTIONED DURING LIKE SHARED USE PASS AND SO ON, INCORPORATING THAT INTO IT ALSO IMPROVES ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS. SO WE TRY NOT TO JUST LUMP ONE AS LIKE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REDUCE X AMOUNT OF ENERGY. WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO SAY HOW OTHER, HOW DOES IT INTEGRATE WITH OTHER COMPONENTS WITHIN THE CITY? SO BRYCE, ONE OF MY LOVE LANGUAGES IS ROI . SO YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR JUST TIPPED YOU OFF. YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, MY HESITATION TO BE READY FOR, AND BEING ABLE TO SHOW AN ROI CAUGHT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, COST REDUCTION, COST AVOIDANCE, THAT'S REAL, RIGHT? I'M, I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN THAT AND THAT CAN HELP ME GET MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, IS THIS STILL THE RIGHT PATH TO TAKE THE RIGHT INVESTMENT TO MAKE? GOTCHA. OKAY. FIRST SPEAK DEREK, AND THEN , I WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THE LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS. I MEAN, SO HOWEVER, MANY YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY PEGGED 50% AS THE MILESTONE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT LAST 10% GONNA COST US ANOTHER $6 MILLION? OR DO WE SAY, OKAY, WELL WE MADE IT TO 40 AND THE EXTRA 10% IS NOT WORTH THE SPEND. I MEAN, I WANT TO KEEP DOING THIS STUFF, BUT I DON'T THINK, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, I WASN'T HERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS HERE BACK WHEN THIS WAS FIRST SET IN MOTION. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC SUPPORT WAS FOR THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. IF IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY PULLED OUTTA THE AIR AND SAID, HEY, 50% SOUNDS GREAT, LET'S GO WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW. UM, FOR, FOR THAT 50% NUMBER, UH, THAT WAS A SCIENTIFICALLY BACKED NUMBER THAT COMES FROM THE, UH, INTERNATIONAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, FOR REDUCTION TARGET BY 2030, UH, THE REORGANIZATION AND INSTITUTION THAT'S TRYING TO TARGET THAT 50%. IF EVERYBODY GOT 50% BY 2030, THAT REALLY ISN'T LIKE THE END GOAL. [03:05:01] UH, THE END GOAL IS TRYING TO GET CARBON NEUTRAL CLOSER TOWARDS LIKE, UH, MIDDLE END OF THE CENTURY PIECE FOR IT. THAT 2030 MARK WAS TO TRY TO GET FO UH, LIKE INSTITUTION AND FOLKS TO START MAKING THAT PROGRESS. BECAUSE THE MOMENT THE NEED TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM A CLIMATE, UH, PERSPECTIVE IS, IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. UH, BY THAT 2030, UH, UH, GOAL AND TARGET WAS A SCIENTIFICALLY BACKED GOAL. OKAY. BUT I MEAN, GETTING TO 50%, MAYBE MORE REALISTIC FOR SOME COMMUNITIES THAN OTHERS. I DON'T. AND I JUST, I WANT TO, WELL, PART OF, AS I RECALL, PART OF THE WAY WE WERE GONNA ACHIEVE THAT 50% WAS BASED ON COMMITMENTS FROM A PS THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER COMMITTED TO. SO THEY'VE BACKED AWAY. THEY WERE LIKE 25% OF THE 50%. THERE WAS SOME LARGE PORTION OF IT, RIGHT? YES. UH, A PS DID. UM, AND THEY STILL HAVE AN OUTSIZED ROLE TO PLAY IN THAT. UM, I'M TRYING TO CON GET SOME CONVERSATIONS MOVING WITH THAT. MY COLLEAGUES, UH, AT FLAG IN FLAGSTAFF AND, UH, NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY AND TEMPE AND UH, TUCSON AND PHOENIX, WERE ALL TRYING TO GET SOME MORE TRACTION THERE. UM, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE DEFINITELY TAKEN A STEP BACK, UH, IN THOSE COMMITMENTS. UM, I KNOW OUR COLLEAGUES OVER AT UNISOURCE, UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE WRAPPING UP A, UH, RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS FEASIBILITY STUDY, UH, WHAT THEY CALL IT, UH, COMPONENT. UM, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME MORE INFORMATION I CAN TRY TO GATHER THERE FROM THAT ASPECT OF THINGS. 'CAUSE THE THREE LARGEST AREAS WE HAVE FOR EMISSIONS ARE OUR ON-ROAD TRAVEL, OUR ELECTRICITY USAGE, AND OUR NATURAL GAS. UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TO CONTINUE SOME CONVERSATIONS ON HOW WE CAN SCALE THAT TO A COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY-WIDE EFFECT. BUT YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT. A PS DID TAKE A STEP BACK ON THAT TO THAT POINT. IF I MAY. TO THAT POINT THOUGH, THE, THE PRESSURE ON THE LARGE CORPORATIONS AND UTILITIES TO ACHIEVE THESE IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. THAT THAT PRESSURE IS OFF. THEREFORE, WE ARE NOT GONNA BE MAKING THE, THE, THE, THE GA THE REDUCTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE. IF BY RELYING ON THOSE, THEREFORE REDUCING OUR EFFORTS FURTHER PUTS US BEHIND IN THE HOLE. AND IT'S NOT THAT 50% IS THIS, RIGHT? WE MAY NOT HIT THE 50%. WE'VE ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, BUT I DON'T, I AM WORRIED ABOUT BACKING OFF OF PROGRAMS. HELP US GET AS FAR AS WE CAN, UM, BECAUSE AS I SAID, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE HELP OF FROM THESE OTHER AREAS BECAUSE OF THAT NATIONAL DIALOGUE. CHANGE OF POLICY. CHANGE OF POLICY. THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT. OKAY. IF AP DEREK AND THEN BRIAN, I THINK IT WAS, OH, DEREK, MELISSA, AND BRIAN, I KNEW YOU. SO IF AP S IS, IF AP S IS BACKED OFF ON THIS COMMITMENTS, ARE WE EVER, I MEAN, IS THAT EVEN SHOT IN HELL THAT WE'RE GONNA GET? CAN YOU USE YOUR MIC? SORRY. IF A PS IS BACKED OFF ON THESE COMMITMENTS, THEN IS IT EVEN REALISTIC TO HIT 50%? NO, THAT'S WHAT KATHY SAID. RIGHT? WELL, THAT WAS THE THE QUESTION. SO I GUESS WE, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OKAY, WELL NOW HERE'S THE REAL NUMBER BECAUSE A PS ISN'T GONNA PLAY BALL ANYMORE. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO MY, MY LAST THING I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT IS THAT A PS WHILE WITHIN THE STATE FOR US, IS ONE OF OUR LARGER, I MEAN ONE OF THE LARGEST UTILITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA. AND THAT WE WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO PLAY BALL WITH IT, UM, AND TO INTERACT WITH US ON IT. AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF OUR CITIES ARE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO GET SOME TRACTION WITH THEM. 'CAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF 'EM, LIKE, OH, WE'RE GOOD. LIKE WE WE'RE NOT HEARING A MUCH, MUCH FOCAL PUSHBACK FROM THE COMMUNITIES. BUT AS THIS, AS THEIR CHANGES HAVE TAKEN EFFECT, I THINK THAT IS BEEN EVER MORE PRESENT TO US, UH, OF, TO TRYING TO CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HOPING TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL ARE JUST SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THROUGH, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT ON LIKE VIRTUAL POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS AND THE LIKE, UM, THAT COMPONENT IS THEN AS, UM, TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AT THE TIME THOUGH IS LIKE, WE JUST DON'T WANNA BUY A CREDIT AND SAY, LOOK AT US. GO. WE HAVE A CREDIT. IT'S TRYING TO MAKE THAT WHERE IT, IT'S AN IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M HOPING TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK TO, TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT ON SOME ALTERNATIVES WE HAVE, UH, IN THAT SPHERE. I DON'T HAVE 'EM AT THE MOMENT, BUT THAT'S MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO BRING UP BACK SOME OPTIONS IN LIGHT OF A PS MAKING SOME INTERESTING DECISIONS ON THE CLIMATE FRONT. THANK YOU BRUCE. MELISSA, AT LAST, MELISSA. SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE'RE GETTING REALLY HUNG UP ON THIS 50%. AND I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BE BETTER, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS AND SAY THIS IS WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO AIM FOR. INSTEAD OF A NUMBER THAT WAS GIVEN SORT OF ARBITRARILY FOR 2030 BY AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION. AND I GET THAT, BUT I ALSO LOOK AT A LOT OF THESE, AND I SAY WE HAVE TO DIVIDE OUT THE CONCEPT OF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DECARBONIZATION AROUND THE ENTIRE [03:10:01] COMMUNITY OVER WHICH WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE ANYONE USE SOLAR PANELS OR NOT BURN WOOD OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING TO HELP POLLUTE THE ENVIRONMENT. I, I CAN'T DO THAT. THAT'S NOT OUR ROLE. UM, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO AS A CITY IN ORDER TO BE AS ENERGY EFFICIENT AND AS CONSCIOUS OF THE COSTS OF THE INCREASING COSTS AND THE DECREASING AVAILABILITY OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE? AND I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE AND I SAID TO MYSELF, SAYS, I, WHAT I HEARD BRYCE SAY IS THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE SAVINGS THAT WE COULD GET OVER TIME THROUGH THE REDUCTED REDUCTION IN THE USE OF HIGH PRICED UTILITIES THAT ARE ONLY GOING TO GET HIGHER PRICED. AND WE'RE ALL SEEING THAT IN OUR HOMES. SO IMAGINE WHAT THIS FACILITY MUST USE, RIGHT? SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT PIECE BEFORE I WOULD JUMP ON THIS AND SAY, THIS ALL SEEMS LIKE WAY TOO MUCH MONEY TO SPEND. IF OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS I'M, I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN UTILITY COSTS OR, YOU KNOW, UM, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, IT'S BRYCE'S AREA OF EXPERTISE, THEN, THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. 'CAUSE IT, IT DOES CHANGE HOW MUCH YOU'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING OVER TIME. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S, IT IS REALLY COMING TO THE FOREFRONT AROUND UTILITY COSTS AND CHANGING WHAT WE'RE USING OR CHANGING HOW WE'RE USING IT, WHATEVER. THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR PROGRAMS HERE. AND, AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT OFFSETS THE INITIAL OUTLAY COSTS FOR YOUR OVER TIME IS REALLY A CRITICAL PIECE I THINK WE DON'T HAVE YET. UM, SO THAT'S FINE. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO DIVIDE OUT SUSTAINABILITY FROM RESILIENCE. AND THERE'S RESILIENCE INSIDE OF THIS BUILDINGS SET OF BUILDINGS, RESILIENCE AROUND WILL THINGS KEEP RUNNING IF, IF WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. THAT'S ONE FORM OF RESILIENCE. THE OTHER FORM OF RESILIENCE IS WHERE BRIAN WAS TRYING TO GO, WHICH IS RESILIENCE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP THE PEOPLE SURVIVE THE CHANGES. HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE UTILITY OR THE, UM, I'M SORRY I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME. UH, HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT IS THAT HOME ENERGY RETROFIT? SO WE'VE GOT THE HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROGRAM. WE HAVE WAYS OF HELPING PEOPLE GET SOLAR, UM, AT REDUCED COSTS. WE'VE GOT, UH, I THINK YOU GUYS IMPLEMENTED THE, THE THING ABOUT AIR FILTERS, LIKE YOU CAN LIKE LOAN OR BORROW AN AIR FILTER. UH, WE HAVE THAT FOR A, UM, A, UH, A TEMPORARY AC LOAN PROGRAM. YEAH. UH, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET A, A HEPA AIR FILTER, UH, PROGRAM ALSO OFF THE GROUND AS WELL. AND SEE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE RESILIENCE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE, THEY DON'T FEEL BIG. BUT FOR THE PERSON WHO CANNOT BREATHE WHEN THERE'S A FOREST FIRE HEADED TOWARDS UPTOWN, THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO HAVE ONE ROOM WHERE THEY CAN BREATHE OR WHERE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE ELECTRICITY TO BE ABLE TO BORROW A UNIT SO THEIR CHILDREN CAN SLEEP OR THEY CAN SLEEP. I MEAN, THESE ARE LIKE LITTLE THINGS, BUT IT'S ABOUT THAT FORM OF RESILIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE PROBABLY WON'T EVER BE A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A BIG COOLING CENTER, RIGHT? WHERE WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD THOSE. THEY CAN STAY COOL. THEY CAN GET WATER. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL OR WE WON'T. I KNOW MAYOR'S LOOKING AT ME LIKE, DON'T TALK, CROSS IT OFF THE LIST YET. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO I'M NOT CROSSING IT OFF THE LIST YET. UM, THE BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE BIGGER RESILIENCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING THE HOAS TO, TO DO THINGS CONSERVING WATER LIKE THEY DID AT LAY SPRINGS. MOST OF THE HOAS CAN'T DO THAT. THEY'RE TOO SMALL. I MEAN, I BROUGHT IT UP TO MY HOA AND THEY ALL LOOKED AT ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'D GROWN FOUR MORE HEADS, UM, LIKE, ARE YOU GONNA TRY AND RUN THIS PROGRAM? AND OH, BY THE WAY, A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE HERE FULL TIME. RIGHT? SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT NECESSARILY. NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO ON RESILIENCE. BUT RESILIENCE ISN'T SUSTAINABILITY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE DIFFERENT. THEY PLAY TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME THINGS. AND WE CAN BE SUSTAINABLE INSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN BE SUSTAINABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT RESILIENCE AROUND THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK WE NEED TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO THINGS OUT. I REALIZE THEY'RE IN ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK THEY'RE NOT REALLY THE SAME THING. SO I WILL NOW GET OFF MY SOAPBOX. GOOD POINTS THOUGH. MELISSA, CHARLOTTE, I JUST WANNA SAY , THAT SURVEY AFTER SURVEY AMONG THE HIGHEST VALUED TRAITS IN, IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND ALL IS THE ENVIRONMENT AND [03:15:01] SUSTAINABILITY. AND IF IT'S A NOT A MONEY MAKER FOR US, OR IT'S NOT A A, IT, IT JUST REQUIRES ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE NEED TO BEAR THAT IN MIND. MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER COMMUNITY TOPIC, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA REALLY REVISIT IT AND CONSIDER CUTTING BACK ON SOME EXPENDITURES, TAKE THE, TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE, OF THE TOWN AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR VALUES ARE FOR THIS. AND, UM, THE OTHER ONLY OTHER THING I WANNA SAY, IT'S TWO WORDS. SERVICE CONTRACTS EXPAND THE NET, YOU KNOW, OF FOR THE COMMUNITY OF ARE YOU GETTING INVOLVED IN THESE PROJECTS? THANK YOU. CHARLOTTE, ARE YOU COMING BACK ON FEBRUARY 25TH? YES. SO MAYBE YOU WANNA EXPAND YOUR PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT IN SOME OF THESE? WE, WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. UM, YEAH. MY, MY GOAL IS TO COVER KIND OF OUR, OUR OPERATIONALS IN EACH ONE OF THE PROGRAMMING AREAS. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY TOUCH ON THESE COMPONENTS. THANK YOU BRYCE. JUST . WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. WE SUPPOSED TO BE AFTER HER. OKAY. BRIAN AND THEN MELISSA. SO AS USUAL, COUNCILOR KINSELLA, YOU CHALLENGED MY THINKING. YOU, BUT YOU CHALLENGED IT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THIS TIME BECAUSE WHEN YESTERDAY I WIN YOU OVER. COME ON. CAN'T I GET TODAY? YOU DIDN'T WIN. YOU DIDN'T WIN. YOU DIDN'T WIN ME OVER YET. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, ARE YOU BEING INFLUENCED BY A NATIONAL DIALOGUE OR NATIONAL POINT OF VIEW OR WHATEVER? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. BUT WHAT YOU DID GET ME THINKING ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT, UM, NOT JUST FOR THE COST OF ELECTRICITY, BUT THE AVAILABILITY OF ELECTRICITY, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT AT THE LEAGUE CONFERENCE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A HUNDRED YEARS TO GET, YOU KNOW, THIS MUCH ELECTRIC GENERATION AND NOW THEY GOTTA GET THAT MUCH MORE IN LESS THAN 10 YEARS. RIGHT? SO WE'RE THANK WE'RE, WE'RE LUCKY. THANK OUR, OUR LUCKY STARS THAT WE ARE NOT IN AN AREA WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATA CENTERS WHERE WE'RE RISKING BROWNOUTS IN THE SUMMERTIME. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, OUR CONTRIBUTION TO NOT, UH, UTILIZING ALL THE ELECTRICITY THAT WE COULD OTHERWISE HOG UP, THERE'S VALUE IN THAT. AND MY POINT OF BRINGING THIS UP ALREADY STARTED THE DISCUSSION THAT I WANTED TO HAVE. I, I WANT TO HEAR THE PASSION. SO QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD. . I'M KIDDING. . SO IT WAS A JOKE. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR MELISSA. MINE'S ACTUALLY ALMOST TANGENTIAL. SO I'M GONNA ALSO LOOK OVER HERE AT THE CITY MANAGER TABLE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW FOR SURE WHERE THE HOT ZONES ARE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE RAN THAT AND, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER GOING AROUND AND HOLDING A SILLY LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS UP IN THE AIR. AND I WAS IN UPTOWN. AND YOU COULD SEE AS YOU CAME FROM THE BOTTOM OF UPTOWN TO THE TOP OF UPTOWN, YOU COULD SEE THE HEAT RISING, UM, ON THE METERS. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS GOING ON UP THERE, BUT THAT'S THIS BROADER YES, I'M GONNA STARE AT YOU GUYS AND SAY, ONE OF THE GARAGE ITEMS WAS AN UPTOWN CFA. UM, AND IN, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT CFA, HOW DO WE HELP THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY WALK THEIR COMMUNITY BETTER, BUT COOL THEIR COMMUNITY OFF, UM, AND MAKE IT A COOLER PLACE FOR THEM TO BE MORE GREEN, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, NOT A CITY PLANNER. UM, BUT WHO KNOWS? I MIGHT GO GET A DEGREE. 'CAUSE WHY NOT? AND YOU HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES AND YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME ALL THAT, BUT THAT TO ME IS PART OF THE RESILIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS COOLING DOWN THESE REALLY HOT AREAS THAT WE HAVE. AND BUILDING A A NICE COMMUNITY. I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M SH I KNOW YOU LIVE UP THERE, CHARLOTTE . AND, AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UM, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE USE YOUR MIC, YOUR MIC. OH, SORRY. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I ALWAYS THINK OF UPTOWN AS COOLER BECAUSE IT GETS THE WINDS FROM THE, WELL, WE CAN GROW THINGS THERE THAT CAN'T BE GROWN IN VOC OR CAN'T BE GROWN IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. IT'S, IT SEEMS COOLER. AND WE GET THE WINDS FROM THE, UM, CANYON. YEAH, WE KIND OF ALL GET THE WIND FROM THE CANYON AT THREE O'CLOCK. UM, THE WIND COMES DOWN FROM THE CANYON, BUT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AND, AND CITY MANAGER WANTS TO JUMP IN. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCILOR DUNN, WHAT I DO WANNA LET THE COUNCIL KNOW, AND PERHAPS YOU HAVEN'T MET HIM YET, BUT WE DID FILL THE SENIOR PLANNER POSITION WITH A PERSON WITH AN URBAN DESIGN BACKGROUND, AND NOW WE HAVE TONY AND WE'RE GETTING, WE ARE, UM, POSITION NOW TO TAKE THESE TESTS ON. SO YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. IMPORTANT POINT. THANK YOU BRYCE. YEP, NO PROBLEM. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN IN A MONTH. [03:20:01] CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? MAY I, FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY AGAIN? OH LORD, TO ME AGAIN. UM, CAN I JUST, MAYOR, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH SOME CLARIFICATION ON, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD PLANNED TO PRESENT TO YOU, WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS WOULD YOU LIKE US TO HELP ANSWER? IS IT THE TYPE OF QUESTION OF, OF THIS 13 MILLION IN ORDER TO GET US TO ZERO WITH OUR EMISSIONS? DO YOU GUYS WANNA ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? UH, DO YOU WANT US TO GO THERE AND HELP ANSWER THAT? I'M, I'M ASKING BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM AND HOW THOSE, I MEAN, IT TAKES YEARS FOR BRYCE TO PUT ALL OF THESE THINGS IN PLACE. SO THE LAST THING I WANNA DO IS START PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PULL BACK ON. SO DO YOU WANT US TO GO THERE WITH THE PRESENTATION WHERE WE, WHERE WE KIND OF HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION THAN WHAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT? YOU KNOW, A DEDICATED DISCUSSION ON THAT? I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, YES. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA LOOKS LIKE FOR THAT DAY. SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT ELSE MIGHT BE ON THE AGENDA. IT'S NOT WHOLLY NO. COULD YOU LOOK THAT UP? YEAH, BUT I, I THINK THE COST SAVINGS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. INVESTING NOW AND WHAT DO YOU GET IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT, WHICH REALLY ISN'T IN THAT CHART. THAT SEEMS TO BE A REALLY BIG ISSUE. AND IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. OKAY. NEITHER IS ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, GRANT FUNDING THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO GO FOR IT TOO, YOU KNOW, SO. OKAY. UH, MAR IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, ACTUALLY BRYCE'S PRESENTATION IS YOUR WEDNESDAY WORK SESSION. I AM ON FEBRUARY 25TH. AND SO FAR IT'S THE ONLY ITEM FOR THAT DAY. OKAY. SO, YES, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN DO, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF IT, BUT IT'D BE A GOOD START. OKAY. YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK? OKAY. 10 MINUTES. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ARE WE READY? OKAY. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR VICE MAYOR COUNCILORS, ROXANNE HOLLAND, DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER. UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA QUICKLY GO OVER WHAT OUR LONG TERM, UH, CIP PLANS ARE FOR WASTEWATER. UM, IT INCLUDES BOTH OUR, IT INCLUDES OUR FACILITY, WASTEWATER, TR FACILITY PLANT, UM, TREATMENT DISCHARGE, AND OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM AS WELL. SO, UM, THE MAIN PLANNING PROJECT DRIVERS FOR LONG-TERM CAPITAL PLANS IN WASTEWATER ARE, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO TREAT WHAT WE, WHAT WE TAKE IN, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DISPOSE OF WHAT WE TAKE IN. UM, ANOTHER DRIVER IS REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IMPOSED ON US THAT WE HAVE TO MEET. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO KEEPING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE RELIABLE UTILITY SERVICE. UM, SO LOOKING AT OUR CAPACITY AND DISPOSAL, UM, DRIVER, WE'VE COMPLETED SEVERAL PROJECTS IN THE PAST RELATED TO OUR, UM, CAPACITY NEEDS FOR INCREASED FLOWS OR STRENGTH AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE'VE INSTALLED TWO, UM, RECHARGE WELLS BACK IN 2017. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PROJECTS IN PROGRESS FOR THAT OR IN PROCESS FOR THAT. UM, AND OUR FUTURE PROJECTS ARE TO IMPLEMENT OUR ADDITIONAL RECHARGE WELLS THAT WILL BRING CAPACITY TO OUR DISPOSAL, UM, CAPABILITIES. LOOKING AT THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH IN, IN NEED OF BRINGING, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR TREATMENT PLANT FOR REGULATORY REASONS. UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, UNDERGOING A RESERVOIR DAM BREACH ANALYSIS THAT'S FOR OUR 70 MILLION GALLON RESERVOIR. UM, AND THAT IS BEING DONE. UM, AND THEN A-D-D-W-R WILL BE REVIEWING THAT AND THEY MAY, UH, BE REQUIRING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT, TO THAT RESERVOIR. UM, SO I'VE GOT THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN ALSO FOR A PLACEHOLDER IS PFAS REMOVAL FROM, UM, EITHER OUR LIQUID STREAM OR POSSIBLY OUR SOLIDS AS WELL. AND THAT'S AN UNKNOWN UNTIL THOSE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, UH, ARE IMPLEMENTED IF AND WHEN THEY ARE. UM, AND THEN FINALLY OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK, UM, IN THIS AREA. OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, WE'VE DONE SEVERAL REHABS THAT WERE, UM, IDENTIFIED IN OUR 2018 WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS A MASTER PLAN OF OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM. WE HAVE GRADED TWO LIFT STATIONS, WE [03:25:01] ADDED CAPACITIES TO SOME LINES. WE, UM, MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO SOME LINES THAT WERE DETERIORATING. UM, AT THE TREATMENT PLANT. WE'VE, UM, REPLACED OUR HEADWORKS, OUR GRIT CLASS FIRE. UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE UNDERGOING A UV REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO REPLACE OUR UV EQUIPMENT WITH NEW AND IN THE FUTURE WE'VE GOT SOME CLARIFIER REHABS. UH, WE WILL BE REPLACING OUR DRYING BEDS AND, UM, MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENT TO OUR INFLUENT FLOW CHANNEL. AND THEN OUT IN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, THIS WILL BE ONGOING EVERY YEAR WHERE WE'RE MAKING REPAIRS TO THE, THE PIPES, THE MANHOLES, THE LIFT STATIONS AS AS NEEDED. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YEAH, I, I DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL ON, YOU KNOW, PROJECT COSTS OR SPECIFIC PROJECTS. UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S IN BARBARA'S. BARBARA, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN EXACTLY IS THE BOND SATISFIED FOR WASTEWATER? I KNOW IT'S FY 27 SOMETIME. DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND? YES. I DUNNO OFFHAND. I'LL, I'LL LOOK IT UP. AND IS THERE STILL A GENERAL FUND SUBSIDY MM-HMM . AND THAT EXPIRES IN 27 TOO, DOESN'T IT? WELL, WELL, WELL IT WAS, WAS IT INTENDED TO EXPIRE IN 27? MAYOR AND COUNCIL? UH, PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT IT WOULD EXPIRE AT THAT TIME. OKAY. WHICH WE CAN, YOU CAN AMEND. AMEND. RIGHT. DO YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT? OKAY. BECAUSE BIG PROJECTS ARE NOT NE ARE, ARE, ARE MOST LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE PAID FOR WITH CURRENT DOLLARS. YEAH. AND, AND WE WILL BE DOING THE WASTEWATER RATE STUDY NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THE RATE STUDY? DO WE ROUGHLY, UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE ADVERTISING FOR AN RFP THIS SPRING AND THEN, UM, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO START THAT NEXT FISCAL YEAR, NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN DIRECTION ON, ON PROJECTS. OH, FISCAL 27 TO START? YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO, SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA RECOMMEND FOR THE TWO WELLS? THE RECHARGE WELLS, WHICH ARE GONNA BE $11 MILLION, RIGHT? SOMETHING PLUS OR MINUS. MM-HMM . ARE YOU GONNA RECOMMEND WE PAY THAT OUT OF EXISTING REVENUE OR FOR THE CIP FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR? WE'RE RECOMMENDING USING EXISTING RESOURCES AND THEN GOING FORWARD AS WE GET INTO LIKE THE RECHARGE WELLS AND THE REALLY, UH, LARGER PROJECTS. I MEAN THIS IS PART OF IT THE ABOUT 9 MILLION NEXT YEAR. UM, BUT WHEN WE GET INTO THE LIKE 20 MILLION LEVEL, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL RECOMMEND ISSUING DEBT. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE FY 28 PROBABLY, OR PROBABLY. I THINK THAT THAT SEEMS RIGHT BECAUSE 27 WE CAN FUND WITH CASH AND THEN 28 WOULD BE WHEN WE WOULD ISSUE THE DEBT OR MAYBE AT THE END OF 27. BUT WE WOULDN'T START THE PROJECTS AND DRAW DOWN THE MONEY UNTIL EIGHT FOR SURE. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? AND, AND IS THE RATE STUDY INTENDED TO BE REVENUE NEUTRAL, JUST REARRANGING THE SLICES OF THE PIE? OR IT COULD BE OPEN-ENDED WITH A DIFFERENT REVENUE AMOUNT COMING OUT OF IT? UM, BARBARA , DID YOU HEAR THAT QUESTION? WHAT THE RATE STUDY WILL DO IS IT WILL LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM HOLISTICALLY AND ESSENTIALLY SAY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS, THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO SET THE RATES. AND THEY SHOULD GIVE US, I MEAN IN OUR SCOPE WE'LL ASK THEM TO GIVE US ALTERNATIVES FOR HOW WE PHASE IN RATES, UM, HOW WE CAN PHASE CONSTRUCTION OF PROJECTS TO HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT. BUT IT WON'T BE REVENUE NEUTRAL. NO. AND IT WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN, UM, TIME CHARLOTTE IN THE MIC. IT WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME IT LOOKS TO, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK 50 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. IT WOULD BE THEY'RE USUALLY, UH, 30 YEARS REALLY IS FAIRLY STANDARD. UM, BECAUSE ANY, ANY KIND OF UTILITY SYSTEM IS VERY LONG LIFE. YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE VERY LONG ASSET LIVES. SO THEY HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD THAT MUCH TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RATES THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING CAN BE THE RIGHT RATE 20 YEARS FROM NOW TO [03:30:01] PAY FOR THE ASSET THAT THAT DEBT WE'RE PAYING FOR IS. SORRY, THAT WAS LIKE A NON SENSE INCREASE. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR ROXANNE? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MM-HMM NOW THE FUN TOPIC. ALRIGHT. YEAH. NOW FOR THE FUN STUFF. YES. UM, YES, SO MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M JOSH REIN PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR AND JUST GONNA GO THROUGH SOME QUICK PARK PLAN UPDATES FOR RANGER STATION, PARK POSSE GROUNDS PARK WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND SOME OF THE THE RANGER STATION MASTER PLAN AND A FEW UPDATES HERE FOR THE RANGER STATION PARK. WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT. UM, FOR THAT PROJECT. THE INITIAL BID DATE ON THAT WAS MAY, 2017 WITH THE SEALED REVISED PLANS ON APRIL, 2023 THAT WAS CREATED WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY WORK GROUP, UM, INPUT WITH THOSE COMMUNITY WORK GROUPS AS WELL AS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND WHAT PEOPLE REALLY WANTED OUTTA THAT SPACE WITH THE PURPOSE OF IT TO PROTECT THAT RANGER STATION BARN AND HOUSE THAT WERE THERE IN THE PAST. THOSE TWO BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS WERE KIND OF IN A LITTLE BIT OF A WASTELAND WITH NO PURPOSE. SO IT WAS GIVING THOSE BUILDINGS SOME PURPOSE AND REDESIGNING 'EM SO THEY COULD BE FUNCTIONAL COMMUNITY AMENITIES. WELL ALSO CREATING A PARK AROUND IT THAT WOULD CENTER AS A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE AND DRAW PEOPLE TO THAT AREA AND MAKE IT A GREAT USABLE SPACE. SO JUST AS A QUICK VISUAL, WHAT WE HAD JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO WAS THIS MASTER PLAN HERE WITH WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND THEN WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. SO WE HAVE THE PLAYGROUND SPACE, THE GRASS AREA FIT, OH YOU CAN'T SEE MY MOUSE UP THERE. ANYWAY, THE PLAYGROUND SPACE, THE FIT, THE GRASS AREA, THE RANGER STATION BARN, THE WALKING PATH AROUND IT, THE PARKING AREAS, ALL THOSE COMING TO LIFE IN THAT SPACE RECENTLY, THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT RANGER STATION PARK AND FOR THE MASTER PLAN IS THE PARK PORTION OF THE PARK IS NEARLY COMPLETE. THE ONLY REALLY REMAINING IMPROVEMENTS LEFT FOR THE PARK PORTION OF THAT ARE THE ADDITION OF THE SHADE COVERING OVER THAT PLAYGROUND AREA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THIS PAST YEAR. AS WELL AS A PICNIC RAMADA AREA FOR THE SHADED GATHERING SPACE. AND FOR THE UPDATE ON THAT PLAYGROUND SHADE, WE SENT OUT AN RFP RECENTLY FOR THE REQUEST FOR BID FOR ALL THE COMPANIES THAT DO THE SHADE STRUCTURES RECEIVE FOUR BIDS. AND WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH PLANS CURRENTLY WITH THE TOP SELECTED BID COMPANY TO DO THAT SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE PLAYGROUND. WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THEM NEXT WEEK TO KIND OF FINALIZE THE MEASUREMENTS AND PLANS AND GET THAT SET IN PLACE WITH THE ANTICIPATED COMPLETION BY APRIL OR MAY, 2026 HOPEFULLY JUST IN TIME FOR SUMMER AND GET THAT PLAYGROUND AND PARK SHADED THERE. UM, THE PARK RAMADA WILL BE PART OF THAT AS WELL. SO IT SHOULD BE UP IN THAT TIME AS WELL, WHICH WILL BE THAT PICNIC EATING SHADE SPACE THERE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL SEATING AND A PICNIC AREA. JOSH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES. ARE YOU INTENDING TO USE THAT UH, SHADE? DID YOU PUT TOGETHER A PROTOTYPE FOR SHADE STRUCTURES THAT COULD BE USED ACROSS MULTIPLE PARKS AND AND OTHER UM, NEEDS? LIKE WE TALKED ANDY ABOUT HAVING A PROTOTYPE FOR THE SHADE STRUCTURES. IS THIS SHARED USE PADS? YES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO WE HAVE KIND OF A CONSISTENT DESIGN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR SHARED USE PADS, BUT THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT TYPE THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS SITUATION. HOWEVER, WE HAVE DONE SHADE STRUCTURES AT THE DOG PARK AND OTHER AREAS LIKE THAT, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS PART OF HOW TO DEVELOP THIS DESIGN. YEAH, EXACTLY. YES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ONE BIG RAMADA WITH MULTIPLE TABLES OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SMALLER MULTIPLE RAMADA OR HOW DO YOU SEPARATE PEOPLE'S USES OR JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT'S LOOKING LIKE. THE ONE FOR THIS RANGER STATION WOULD BE LIKE A 10 BY 20 TYPE SPACE WITH TWO LONG PICNIC TABLES. SO SORT OF LIKE SUNSET PARK? YES, YES. SIMILAR KINDA LONGER RECTANGULAR STRUCTURE THAN SUNSET, BUT THAT SAME TYPE OF AREA. YES. AND FOR THAT IT IS A DIFFERENT SHADE STRUCTURE THAN LIKE THE UM, SHARED USE PATHS WOULD BE IN THAT TYPE OF THING. BUT IT'S STILL FOLLOWING KIND OF THAT SIMILAR STRUCTURE WHERE IT'S THE METAL FRAME WITH THE GABON BASKETS, WITH THE SEDONA ROCKS ON THE SIDE AND CREATING THAT SAME TYPE OF STRUCTURE FOR THAT RAMADA AREA THERE. OKAY. AND THEN ON HERE WE HAVE, SO WE HAVE THE RANGER STATION, PARK HOUSE AND BARN, WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER PART OF THE RANGER STATION MASTER PLAN WITH THE RANGER STATION HOUSE THERE ON THE LEFT AND THE BARN THERE AND THE BIGGER [03:35:01] BUILDING ON THE RIGHT WITH STORMY BAY STANDING THERE IN THE MIDDLE FOR THE HOUSE AND BARN. THE EXTERIORS OF THE HOUSE AND BARN WERE COMPLETE AND WINTER 25, WINTER 2025. SO THAT WAS THE EXTERIORS BEING REPURPOSED AND REDONE. THEY'RE KEEPING THAT HISTORICAL LOOK AND FEEL KEEPING AS MANY FEATURES AS POSSIBLE BUT ALSO REDOING, REDOING SOME OF THE WINDOWS, MAKING THEM EFFICIENT THERE. THE INTERIOR OF THOSE BUILDINGS IS CURRENTLY STILL UNDER DESIGN BY AN ARCHITECTURE FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN THOSE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION DESIGN THAT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO TURN THOSE BUILDINGS INTO A FUNCTIONAL USE INSIDE WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOST THE COMMUNITY GATHERINGS, RENTAL SPACES AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND BID WORK ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN. ONCE WE GET THOSE DESIGNS BACK FROM THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN SPRING 2026. AND THEN FOR POSSE GROUNDS PARK. SO FOR POSSE GROUNDS PARK, WE HAD A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2012 WITH THAT MASTER PLAN. IT WAS LOOSELY FOLLOWED FOR A FEW YEARS THERE WITH MANY ELEMENTS OF IT ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE. HOWEVER, IN 2021 THAT PLAN WAS VOTED TO KIND OF BE ABANDONED BY BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER AS IT DIDN'T REALLY SUIT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THAT POINT BEING SEVERAL YEARS LATER. UM, WHICH WAS A GOOD THING 'CAUSE THERE'S WAYS THAT WE COULD HAVE PIVOTED AND WE HAVE PIVOTED AND MADE THOSE POSITIVE CHANGES THAT WERE NEEDED BY THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME. SOME OF THOSE, SO SOME OF THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS TO POSSE GROUNDS PARK THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN IN 2012, BUT WAYS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THAT COMMUNITY INPUT AND MAKE THEM SOMETHING USEFUL. OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN READ THROUGH THE LIST HERE, BUT SOME OF THOSE BIG ONES BEING THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, BOCCE COURTS, SOME OF THE FIELD LIGHTING HUB UPGRADES, THOSE THINGS. AND THEN ONE BIG ONE THAT I WANNA MENTION, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A HIDDEN AWAY AMENITY, IS THAT PERMANENT DISC GOLF COURSE. SO THAT DISC GOLF COURSE IN KIND OF BEHIND THE COMMUNITY POOL AREA THERE IN POSSE GROUNDS PARK WE DID THREE YEARS AGO, WHICH WAS NEVER PART OF A, THE MASTER PLAN OR ANY OF THAT, JUST KIND OF A HIGHLY REQUESTED COMMUNITY AMENITY. WE ARE ABLE TO TRACK SOMEWHAT USAGE ON THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE, WE HAVE AN APP CALLED U DISC THAT PEOPLE CAN RECORD THEIR SCORES AND PLAY AND IT HAS A LITTLE COURSE MAP AND THINGS. JUST A COUPLE QUICK STATISTICS ON THAT, SINCE THOSE THREE YEARS, LIKE WITHIN THE THREE YEARS WE'VE HAD 3092 UNIQUE PLAYERS THAT HAVE REGISTERED AND PLAYED A KEPT A SCORE ON THAT APP. SO OVER 3000 UNIQUE PLAYERS. AND THEN JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR ALONE WE HAD 2,755 PEOPLE PLAY THAT COURSE AND KEEP SCORE ON IT. SO SOME OF THOSE BEING REPEATS OF COURSE, BUT 2,755 PLAYS WITH 613 OF THOSE COMING FROM SEDONA RESIDENTS THEMSELVES AND THEN A MIX IN BETWEEN AND THEN 1097 COMING FROM THOSE THAT ARE OVER A HUNDRED MILES AWAY. SO WE'RE HITTING PEOPLE FAR AWAY AND THE SEDONA RESIDENTS BOTH WITH THAT TYPE OF AMENITY. AND WITHIN THAT LAST YEAR WE HAD PLAYERS FROM 47 DIFFERENT STATES, SEVEN COUNTRIES ALL COMING TO THAT COURSE TO PLAY. SO IT'S COOL AN AMENITY LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN THROW UP NO COST, IT'S HIDDEN, VERY LOW MAINTENANCE DRAWS THAT SAME TYPE OF RESIDENCE AND TOURIST ATTRACTION ALTOGETHER. JOSH, HOW, HOW'S THE BOCCE BALL, UM, COURTS DOING? UH, DID THE LEAGUE EVER GET GOING? WE HAVE, IT HASN'T BEEN A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INTEREST OR PLAY IN IT. THEY'VE BEEN BUILT, THERE'S USE OF IT. UM, WE DID HAVE A LEAGUE THAT HAD FOUR TEAMS PLAYING IN IT, SO OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE TO GROW THAT, BUT THERE STILL WERE FOUR TEAMS PLAYING IN THE LEAGUE. WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING SOME OP LIKE OPEN BOCCE NIGHTS SO YOU CAN COME OUT ON A WEDNESDAY AND KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER PEOPLE THERE PLAYING AND PLAY WITH 'EM THAT WAY TO HOPEFULLY TRY AND GET A FEW MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE SPORT AND PLAYING THAT WAY. SO IT'S DEFINITELY NOT USED OR IT'S DEFINITELY USED, BUT NOT QUITE TO THE LEVEL WE'RE HOPING YET, BUT GETTING THERE. THANK YOU. UM, THERE WE GO. JUST A COUPLE QUICK IMAGES OF A FEW OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN UPGRADED WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND THEN WE HAVE SOME UP THE PAR, SORRY, CAN'T TALK THE POSSE GROUNDS IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ALSO UNDERWAY THAT ARE COMING IN THE REST OF THIS YEAR. UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH THEM ALL FOR YOU, BUT THEY'RE SOME OF THE DECISION PACKAGES OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE, OF COURSE HAPPY TO ELABORATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND GET THERE. OTHERWISE THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. DEREK. UM, BIKE SKILLS PARK, WHAT'S PLANNED FOR THAT? IS IT EXPANDING? IS IT JUST KEEPING IT IN CONDITION? YEAH, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT? SO IT'S DEF THERE ARE A FEW MINOR EXPANSIONS THAT'LL TAKE PLACE IN THERE. UM, AS PART OF THE PLAN FOR THAT, THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THERE'S ANOTHER, [03:40:01] UM, SPACING ON THE WORD FOR IT, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER LIKE TAUGHT AREA THAT WAS FOR RIDING BEGINNING SKILLS AREA AS WELL AS THE DROP ZONE. UM, SOME REWORK DONE ON THAT, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE IN THIS YEAR. SO CURRENTLY IT'S JUST KIND OF KEEPING THAT UPGRADED. WE DO HAVE A NEW PERSON THAT'S WORKING ON THE BIKE SKILLS PARK ALONG WITH JORDAN. SO THERE'S TWO OF THEM THAT ARE NOW WORKING IN THAT AREA AND IT'S A LOT OF SIGNAGE, UM, KINDA REDIRECTING THE TRAILS TO THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS AND JUST MAINTENANCE, KEEPING THAT UP TO DATE. OKAY. AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE RANGER STATION, THERE WAS PLAN AT ONE POINT TO CONSTRUCT RESTROOMS. IS THAT STILL THE PLAN OR IS THAT ON HOLD OR THAT IS THE, YES, THAT'S DEFINITELY THE PLAN TO HAVE THAT DONE. UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT'LL BE ON NEXT YEAR'S. I KNOW THAT HAD GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE RESTROOMS THERE A LITTLE BIT AND CURRENTLY THERE'S THE PORTA-POTTIES ON SITE. THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA GET DONE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU MAYOR JOSH. THANK YOU. AND, UH, CONGRATS ON ALL THE REMARKABLE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CITY'S PARK FACILITIES. MY QUESTION ISN'T SO MUCH CIP BUT JUST THAT LAST MONTH IN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES, COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WESTERN GATEWAY PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL USES OF THE LAND THERE AND YOU GOT PUT ON THE SPOT AT LEAST ONCE WITH, YOU KNOW, OH, WHAT, WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE OUT THERE? YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MORE THOUGHTFUL, NOT THAT YOU WEREN'T , SORRY. I'D LIKE YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL STILL ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE SOME DESIRABLE USES OUT THERE FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC PERSPECTIVE. AND ALSO WE ASKED YOU ABOUT FESTIVALS, EVENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING. IF, IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO QUALIFY, QUANTIFY, UM, THE DEGREE TO WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S POSSE GROUNDS NOW, HOW IT'S BEING USED FOR EVENTS AND WHATNOT. AND LIKE IF YOU HAVE EXAMPLES OF EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO TURN AWAY BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE SIZE OR MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, FACILITY AMENITIES OR WHATEVER, JUST FOR ME AT LEAST, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT ADDITIONAL DEMANDS MIGHT STILL EXIST ON OUR PARKS AND REC INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AS VALUABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDITIONAL, UH, AMENITY. SO DEFINITELY I WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND SELL SOME VISION ON RAIN OR WESTERN GATEWAY AND WHAT WE COULD DO ON THE PARK SYSTEMS THERE FOR EVENTS, PARKS, UM, ULTIMATELY POTENTIALLY REC CENTER AND GO THAT WAY TOO. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID WE LOSE THE WINE FEST BECAUSE OF SIZE AND SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT? OR WERE THERE OTHER REASONS? THERE'S OTHER REASONS, BUT THAT WAS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR THAT THEY WERE HAVING TO DO IT ON THE SOCCER FIELD SPACE, DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, UM, RAN INTO ISSUES WITH THE SOCCER FIELD THERE AND GLASS ON THE FIELD AND SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES THERE. BUT YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THEM FOR SURE THAT THEY'D LOVE TO HAVE A BETTER FESTIVAL SPACE. UH, WHAT AS WELL AS JAZZ ON THE ROCKS BOARD OF FEST YOGA FEST, OTHERS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO HOST IN THE PARK AND HAVEN'T BEEN THAT WE'VE EITHER TRIED OR HAD TO TURN AWAY FROM THE PARK BECAUSE THAT SPACE HASN'T BEEN THERE FOR 'EM. OR ELSE WE'D BE HOSTING FESTIVALS THERE EVERY WEEKEND WITH SOME OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. SO WITH THE DOG WITH YAPPY HOUR MOVED OVER TO THE, UM, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING ON BREWER MM-HMM . YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS? YES. YES. SO THAT WILL BE SOME OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE LIKE REDOING THE INFIELD AREA, SOME GRASS IMPROVEMENTS, THE DUGOUTS BEING REPAINTED AND REDONE, UM, A DA ACCESS DOWN TO THE SOFTBALL FIELD. YES. SO THAT WAS A HUGE WIN, GETTING THE DOGS AND THE YAPPY HOUR. PEOPLE ARE VERY HAPPY IN THAT NEW SPACE AS WELL. I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THEM TOO, SO ME TOO. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WAS A GREAT SOLUTION WIN WIN. SO THANK YOU BRIAN. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER QUESTION. UM, WHAT UM, WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TURNING AWAY, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVENTS, ARE YOU SEEING MUCH INTEREST DURING THE SUMMER PERIOD FOR HOSTING EVENTS DURING THE HEAT OF OUR SUMMER OR IS IT PRETTY MUCH SHOULDER SEASON, WHICH IS OUR HIGH SEASON, RIGHT? YEAH. YES. IT'S DEFINITELY MUCH MORE THE FALL AND SPRING SEASONS WHEN THOSE EVENTS ARE BEING REQUESTED. YEAH, THEY, IT'S PRETTY MINIMAL FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS. AND HOW ABOUT THE POOL? THAT'S ANOTHER BIG SUCCESS STORY. YES, AND IT IS, UM, [03:45:01] I WANT TO SAY THAT IT COULD BE A MUCH BIGGER SUCCESS STORY IF IT STARTS GOING TO THE WESTERN GATEWAY SIDE OF THINGS AND PUSH THE POOL, HAVING A POOL AQUATIC FACILITY OVER THERE. BUT YES, THE POOL IS DOING VERY WELL. WE'VE HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF SWIMMERS THIS PAST YEAR THAT I PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS ACADEMY WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THAT PART AND IT WAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER WE'VE HAD EVER IN THE POOL THROUGHOUT OUR OPEN SWIM SEASON. DID MORE SWIM LESSONS THAN WE HAVE AND THEN OF COURSE THE SWIM TEAMS KEEPING IT OPEN YEAR ROUND AND WORKING WITH THEM IN THE OFF SEASON TO KEEP SWIMMERS THAT WANNA SWIM WHEN IT'S SNOWING OUT, THAT THEY CAN GO HAVE A PLACE TO DO THEIR LAP SWIMMING IN THE WINTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. SO WHAT WAS THE SE SECRET SAUCE OF GETTING LIFEGUARDS? UM, WE BUILT A GREAT COMMUNITY OF THAT WITH THAT PART-TIME STAFF WHERE WE STARTED DOING SOME REFERRAL BONUSES AND WE BUILT THAT CULTURE WITHIN THE LIFEGUARD STAFF THAT THERE'S SOME OF 'EM, ANDY'S SON INCLUDED THAT WORKED AS A LIFEGUARD AND BROUGHT, HE'S PROBABLY BROUGHT SIX OR SEVEN OF HIS FRIENDS THAT HAVE THEN COME AND WORKED FOR US AS LIFEGUARDS AND STAYED ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BROUGHT THEIR FRIENDS THAT HAVE STAYED ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE HAVE, I WANNA SAY SIX OR SEVEN OF OUR LIFEGUARDS THAT ARE COMING FROM CAMP VERDE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO WORK IN OUR POOL RATHER THAN WITH CAMP VERDE POOL AND JUST THE CULTURE THAT WE HAVE CREATED WITH THE LIFEGUARD STAFF THERE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE THERE. YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS PAYING THEM A BETTER WAGE. WE HAVE SOME BONUSES SET UP IN PLACE WHERE IF THEY WORK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS AND THEN ARE WILLING TO WORK THE WEEKENDS IN LIKE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER ONCE THEY'RE BACK IN SCHOOL IN THOSE WHERE THEY CAN EARN SOME BONUSES TO THEIR PAY THAT WAY. AND IT'S REALLY WORKED AND THEY FEEL INCENTIVIZED. AND WE HAVE A GREAT GROUP AND WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT GROUP THAT'S A LOT OF 'EM ARE STILL IN THAT 15 TO 18 YEARS OLD RANGE, BUT WE HAVE A FEW RETIREES THAT ARE LIFEGUARDING WITH US AND WE HAVE LIFEGUARDS OF ALL AGE THAT ARE REALLY ENJOYING IT AND WORKING TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU HAVE MADE PERSONALLY MY LIFE SO MUCH BETTER. AND KATHY'S TOO. WE WERE HAD SEVERAL YEARS WORTH OF COMPLAINTS. YEAH. COMPLAINTS POINT PEOPLE WITH THE COM COMMUNITY OF SWIMMERS IN THIS TOWN. THERE'S A BIG COMMUNITY OF THEM. MM-HMM . MUCH APPRECIATED. JOSH DO A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH THAT SAYS WE GET A BREAK AGAIN. MAYOR , RIGHT? OH, THAT'S WHY STERLING'S HERE. YEAH. NUMBERS. I THOUGHT HE WANTED TO COME SIGN MY CAST. , IF YOU'LL LET ME. DID YOU BRING A WHITE PEN? GET ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR LIKE LABORING THROUGH THIS TODAY. WE WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS FAIRLY SHORT. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE OPEN TO QUESTIONS. UM, I WILL LIKE, I'LL BE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GETTING TO THAT. IF, YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES UP. SO THIS IS JUST OUR DRAFT, LIKE OUR FIRST RUN AT IT FOR THIS YEAR AS WE SAID. AND THIS IS JUST REALLY FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WHEN WE SAY A CAPITAL PROJECT, IT HAS TO COST AT LEAST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, HAVE A THREE YEAR LIFE AND WE DO HAVE A 10 YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. SO THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, THE TOTAL, WHICH I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, RIGHT? IS ABOUT 34.4 MILLION. UM, LAST YEAR'S WAS THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE IN IS ABOUT 48, 40 2 MILLION, 42, 40 2 MILLION. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. AND THEN THIS SHOWS WHICH, UH, APPROPRIATIONS ARE CARRYING FORWARD, UM, LIKE WE'RE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BUT WILL NOT BE SPENT BY THE END OF THE YEAR VERSUS NEW APPROPRIATION. UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE DETAIL OF NEW APPROPRIATION. I KNOW Y'ALL CAN READ, SO WE DON'T NEED TO GO THERE. AND THEN THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS WITHIN THAT 34.4. A LOT OF THIS I KNOW LIKE YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET YOU'VE PROBABLY READ. SO IF I'M GOING TO QUICKLY OR YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE STOP ME, BUT I DON'T WANNA READ SLIDES TO YOU. I KNOW THAT'S, UM, NOT WHAT [03:50:01] YOU'RE HERE FOR. SO THIS IS THE CORE PRIORITIES WE TRIED TO ALIGN WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS WE SHOULD PUT FORWARD, UH, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. DID THEY ALIGN WITH THE CORE PRIORITIES THAT YOU CAME UP WITH DURING THE RETREAT? AND WE DID HAVE TO ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER AND LIKE HEALTH AND SAFETY, YOU KNOW, AND OTHER IS REALLY FOR THE ERP SYSTEM. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS OTHER AND, UH, OTHER INCLUDES ERP AND REAL ESTATE. SO HERE'S THE BARBARA. BARBARA, HOLD ON A SECOND. BRIAN WAS, BARBARA CAN YOU GO BACK THREE SLIDES NOW THERE, TWO PAGE. SORRY, THE PAGES AREN'T ON THERE. SIX EVEN THOUGH. YEAH. SO THIS ONE OTHER ONE YOU JUST HAD UP THERE. OOPS, GEEZ. BACK. I'M GONNA JUST KEEP GOING FORWARD AND MAKING IT HARD. YEAH, ONE MORE. THERE WE GO. HERE YOU GO. . OKAY, SO THE REAL ESTATE LAND ACQUISITION, UM, JUST MAKES ME THINK OF ADOT PARCEL B. LIKE WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THAT? I, WELL, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO COME BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON. OKAY. AND RENEW OUR STRATEGY ON THAT. UM, IT'S STILL ADOT STILL WAITING PATIENTLY WITH US. SO THAT'S, THAT'S POSITIVE . OKAY. SHOULD THAT BE SCHEDULED SOONER THAN LATER THEN? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IS THIS JUST A PLACEHOLDER FOR UNIDENTIFIED? YES. AND NOT SPECIFICALLY THE ADOT PARCEL B THEN. OKAY. NO, NOT SPECIFIC. OKAY. COULD YOU GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE? I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS ROXANNE STILL HERE? NO, SHE LEFT. NO. WHAT, WHAT IS THE $8 MILLION CARRYOVER FOR WASTEWATER? THAT'S FOR, UM, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE KIND OF PUT ON HOLD PENDING Y'ALL'S DECISION IN DECEMBER. SO ONCE YOU GAVE DIRECTION IN DECEMBER, NOW WE'RE HEADING INTO THAT AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GONNA ROLL INTO NEXT YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . BARBARA, CAN I ASK A QUICK, UM, QUESTION? WHAT THE HALF CENT SALES TAXES DEDICATED TO SIM PROJECTS? UM, JUST TRANSPORTATION IN GENERAL, I BELIEVE. OKAY. HOW MUCH DOES THAT GENERATE A YEAR? PULL IT UP REAL QUICK. STERLING'S GONNA PULL IT UP AND LOOK. OH, OH, THE DEBT SERVICE. I LOOKED IT UP IS GOING THE, FOR WASTEWATER IS ACTUALLY THE FINAL PAYMENT IS BUDGETED IN THIS YEAR AND I BELIEVE THE DATE IS SEVEN ONE, BUT WE'LL PAY IT THIS YEAR. SO YEAH. LONG TIME COMING. YEAH, IT IS ALWAYS NICE TO SEE DEBT ROLL OFF, ISN'T IT? WELL, I'LL, UH, I'LL KEEP GOING AND STERLING WILL LET US KNOW. I CAN SURE. REAL QUICKLY, UH, 4.7 MILLION IS, IS THE ESTIMATE WE HAD FOR FY 26 MM. THAT DOESN'T GO TOO FAR. . YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THE 1% IS 4.7 MILLION. HALF, HALF, HALF OR THE HALF A PERCENT RATHER. SO THIS WAS, I MEAN I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT JUST TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF, ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE THE ENGINEERS AND THE PLANNERS AND THE PROJECT MANAGERS WHO REALLY WORKED HARD TO LOOK AT THE CIP AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO BRING FORWARD? KNOWING THAT YOU ALL HAD HAD GIVEN US CLEAR DIRECTION THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE THE AMOUNT WE SPENT COME DOWN. UM, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO REFINE IT FURTHER. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AND, AND THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR REALLY HARD WORK WITH THAT. UM, NOW I'M GOING INTO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU WANT ME TO GO IN ON THESE. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UM, ON THIS SLIDE, THE ONE THAT I WOULD SAY, UM, WELL THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT THE ERP IS MOVING FORWARD. WE'RE IN, UH, DESIGN AND PLANNING. WE HAVE A MAJOR MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THEM. UM, THE MUNICIPAL COURT REMODEL, OUR CONTRACTOR THAT WE WERE USING TO ESTIMATE THAT AND, AND GET THAT ALL GOING, RETIRED. SO THAT GOT A LITTLE BIT DERAILED WITH THAT. AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH ON THAT. AND WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? THAT'S THE, UM, CREATING THE, THE BENCH FOR THE JUDGE THAT'S BULLETPROOF. OH, OKAY. AND THEN DOING THE CEILING BETWEEN WHAT'S NOW FINANCE AND THE COURT. UM, JUST, JUST THOSE TWO THINGS. I MEAN THERE'S PRO WE COULD PROBABLY IDENTIFY SECURITY THINGS ALL DAY LONG EVERYWHERE, [03:55:01] BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE MOST CRITICAL ONES THAT THE, UH, ADMINISTRATOR OF THE COURTS AT THE STATE LEVEL SAID YOU NEED TO FIX THESE. DOES THE A OC PARTICIPATE IN FUNDING? UH, NO. YEAH, WE WISH. WOULDN'T THAT BE LOVELY? IT WOULD, IT REALLY WOULD. YEAH. THEY DID HAVE SOME MONEY AVAILABLE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. I GUESS IT'S GONE. UM, WE DO STILL HAVE SOME MONEY THAT IS ALLOWED FOR COURT REMODELING IN, UM, THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE COURT FUND AND I THINK IT'S AROUND $60,000. SO NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE UPGRADES, BUT IT WILL, IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BUDGET FOR THAT USE. SO JUST STOP ME ON ANY OF THESE SLIDES. I'M JUST GONNA SAY PUBLIC WORKS, WHATEVER, AND Y'ALL CAN SAY, SO PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THESE THINGS AND IF ANYTHING IN HERE IS LIKE RISING TO THE LEVEL OF YOU WANTING TO HEAR ABOUT IT. POLICE, UM, WE HAVE SOME CAMERA AND TASER UPGRADES AND THEN OF COURSE WE SPOKE LAST YEAR OF THE REMODEL, UM, TRANSIT. UH, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE HEARD LOTS ABOUT TRANSIT AND AMBER'S REALLY GOOD AT DESCRIBING WHAT SHE NEEDS. SEDONA IN MOTION. NOW THIS IS WHERE REALLY WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS. UM, THE UPTOWN PARKING GARAGE WILL BE ALMOST DONE AT THAT POINT. THEN WE HAVE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON IMPROVING CIRCULATION. SORRY, THAT WORD WENT OUTTA MY HEAD. AND IF ANY OF THESE, UM, AREN'T FAMILIAR OR YOU'RE SURPRISED TO SEE THEM, PLEASE DO LET US KNOW. AND THE PLANNED, YOU KNOW, SHARED USE PATHS, THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM AND WE ONLY PUT THIS YEAR, I KNOW LAST YEAR THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE WE HAD THE ENTIRE CIP AND THERE WERE LOTS THAT HAD ZEROS. SO FOR THIS MEETING, STERLING AND I TOOK OUT ALL THE ONES THAT WERE ZERO SO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE FOR REAL BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS THAT WAS LIKE, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT NEXT YEAR. WELL WE ACTUALLY WEREN'T, WE WERE DOING IT IN 28 OR 29 AND I THINK IT WAS CONFUSING. SO WE TRIED TO SUMMARIZE IT A LITTLE MORE. STORM DRAINAGE. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PROJECTS THERE AND STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION, WHICH I GUESS IS, I'M GONNA STOP YOU FOR A SECOND. SO I'M ON PAGE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE NUMBER IT IS, BUT I'M ON THE PHONE. SORRY, MY BAD. THAT I LIKE LEFT THESE PAGE NUMBERS OFF. I'M REALLY TENSE ABOUT PAGE NUMBERS. EVERYONE CAN TELL YOU GO BACK. THIS IS SORT OF A GENERAL QUESTION. YES. SO I NOTICED THAT, AND I'M WONDERING IF EACH DEPARTMENT, LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PRIORITY ONE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS A LOT OF PRIORITY THREES. THAT'S WHY THEY NEVER GET THOSE RESTROOMS BUILT. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE YES, THERE'S CRITICAL THINGS, THE POLICE ARE ALWAYS VERY CRITICAL, BUT WE KEEP PUSHING BACK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY CRITICAL TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S, WE VIEW IT AS NICE TO HAVE RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A, A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE, RIGHT. BUT REALITY A RESTROOM IS PROBABLY A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THOSE THAT ARE PRIORITY TOO. AND AS COUNCIL, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO SAY WE BELIEVE THAT PRIORITY SHOULD BE HIGHER, THAT ONE SHOULD RISE TO A LEVEL THAT'S HIGHER THAN SOME OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING. WELL, IT'S IN THE PROCESS, SO I THINK IT'LL BE DONE RIGHT. BUT I'M GONNA PAY ATTENTION TO THAT THIS YEAR. BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE WEST, UH, STATE ROUTE 89 A ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS IN ADAPTIVE SINGLE CONTROL. I THINK WE WOULD ALL VIEW THAT AS PRETTY HIGH PRIORITY. WHERE IS THAT ONE? THAT'S A, UH, THAT'S SOME 10 A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT. I DUNNO. YEAH. I JUST WONDER ABOUT THESE PRIORITIZATIONS AND I GET THEM, BUT, BUT I THINK THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO YEAH. GET THE Y YEAH. YOU KNOW, TO GET THE CONGESTION OUT OF THE Y YEAH, I, I TOTALLY AGREE. SO SPECIFICALLY SIM 10 IS WEST SEDONA AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT KURT WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THAT ADOT IS, HAS TAKEN THE LEAD FUNDING. OH, OKAY. THAT'S NOT THE Y. ALL RIGHT, I GOT THAT. THANK YOU. AND THE Y IS THIS YEAR CORRECT? YEAH, [04:00:01] YEAH, THE Y IS SIM FOUR F, WHICH IS THREE. OH, DID IT DROP OFF? IT'S NOT THERE. IT'S NOT ON THERE. IT OH. BECAUSE IT'S BEING DONE THIS YEAR, SO YEAH, I WAS LIKE, OH NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WE'RE GETTING LIKE, OKAY, AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY, OF COURSE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THEIR NEEDS AND THEN WASTEWATER AND THAT IS IT. SO I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO ANY SLIDES AND YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OR SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT, WHATEVER. OKAY. I DO. I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WHICH IS THE SLIDE THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF, IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES. UH, 1, 2, 3, SLIDE EIGHT. SLIDE EIGHT. BRIAN SAYS, OKAY, IT'S THE ONE THAT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BY CORE PRIORITY. OKAY. I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION. THE FUNDING FOR THE WESTERN GATEWAY IMPLEMENTATION BEGINS IN FY 28. THAT MEANS IN FY 27 WE'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING ANYTHING FOR THE WESTERN GATEWAY. IS THAT, I JUST WANNA ASK A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE I TALK ABOUT IT. UM, IS THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS PORTION FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AT THE SITE? SO INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S NOT THE PLANNING PROCESS OR ANY OF THAT PIECE OF IT. THAT'S OKAY. GOT IS THAT, THANK YOU. EXACTLY RIGHT. I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT. GO AHEAD. BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY PUBLIC WORKS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN FISCAL 27 TO ACCOMMODATE THE PRESUMED MOVING FORWARD WITH CIF ON THAT PROPERTY? UM, WE'LL BE FIGURING THAT OUT WITH OUR MEETINGS WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS SEASON. UM, AND WE WILL LIKELY COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PACKAGE LATER IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT I DON'T THINK WE KNOW ENOUGH YET OKAY. TO PUT IT IN FOR TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, THE SHARED USE, SHARED USE PATHS, UM, WERE THEY ALL THE SAME FISCAL YEAR? UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER THAT ARE NOT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW , I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND HOW MANY YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN DO IN A YEAR. I MEAN, THERE'S KIND OF A TRADE OFF THERE, BUT YEAH. UM, YEAH, AS FAR AS, UH, OH, GO AHEAD. YEAH, I JUST, WE, UM, HAVE 1.2 MILES THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON CONSTRUCTING. SO WE ONLY HAVE THREE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE IN DESIGN. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SPACING IT OUT, CONSTRUCTION AND THEN A COUPLE IN DESIGN EACH YEAR. OKAY. AND YOU PRIORITIZE THE WHICH ONES IN WHICH WAY? IN WHAT WAY? BASED ON A, THE MATRIX THAT'S BEEN DRAFTED, SO WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU. AND ALSO IN COMPLETING, UH, LOOPS, UH, I'M SORRY, IN WHAT? COMPLETING LOOPS. SO WHEN, UM, LIKE VODI, WHEN WE CAN COMPLETE ONE SHORT LEG TO COMPLETE AT, SO IT'S A LOOP MM-HMM . WE TRY TO DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. THANKS. THAT'S PART OF THE, THE CRITERIA THAT GOES INTO THE MATRIX. WOULD YOU LIKE US TO FORWARD A COPY? RIGHT? SHE WASN'T ON COUNCIL, SO SHE NEVER SAW THAT MATRIX. I NEVER SAW IT, BUT, BUT I TRUST YOU AND I TRUST HIM, SO, OKAY. IT WAS REALLY JUST A QUESTION. OKAY. I, I THINK, AND I KNOW THAT MOBILITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THAT, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S KIND OF EACH DEPARTMENT EVALUATES THESE PRIORITIES MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. SO I MIGHT NOT THINK THAT EVERY ONE IS A PRIORITY ONE OR TWO VERSUS PARKS AND REC. UH, YOU KNOW, SO COUNCIL, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES FROM THE DEPARTMENTS MM-HMM . AND MAYBE OUR PRIORITIES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL FOR STAFF TO KNOW LIKE WHAT YOU'RE PRIORITIZING. WE DO COME TOGETHER WITH A-C-I-P-A STAFF, CIP COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE CIP. SO THAT, AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED THIS YEAR. SO THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES BASED ON WHAT WE DECIDED LAST YEAR. UM, AND THAT GROUP WILL SORT OF RESET ALL THESE PRIORITIES AGAIN AS A, AS A COLLECTIVE. WHAT I ALSO DON'T KNOW FROM THIS IS HOW MANY PRIORITY ONES VERSUS PRIORITY THREES THERE ARE IN A DEPARTMENT, [04:05:01] LIKE NOT TO PICK ON PARKS, BUT SINCE YOU'S IN MY LINE OF VISION, , , UM, YOU KNOW, IS EVERYTHING SUBMITTED A PRIORITY? I MEAN, I COULD GO THROUGH THIS AND PICK IT OUT, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS ORGANIZING THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS BY DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST PARKS. WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THAT BE A SLIDE IN THE NEXT CIP UPDATE THAT, THAT I, I WOULD FIND THAT HELPFUL? YEAH. WE'LL COME BACK ON, UH, FEBRUARY 11TH TO DISCUSS FURTHER WITH THE CIP AND AT THAT POINT WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THE PRIORITIZATION. IS COMMUNITY BENEFIT A PRIORITY? HM? IS COMMUNITY BENEFIT A CURRENT PRIORITY? YOU MEAN AS A PART OF A MATRIX? WHEN YEAH, WHEN THEY'RE, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT, YOU LOOK AT UM, MANDATED, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY MANDATED, YOU LOOK AT HEALTH AND SAFETY, YOU LOOK AT WHATEVER ELSE YOU LOOK AT BELOW THAT. BUT IS COMMUNITY BENEFIT ONE OF 'EM DO? NO. THERE THEY'RE MORE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAMES OF THEM, BUT, OH GOSH, DARN IT. UM, COUNSELOR HONI, I THINK EITHER WE CAN SEND THE DEFINITIONS TO YOU MM-HMM . THE THAT FOR THESE RATINGS ALONG WITH THAT MATRIX FOR THE SHARED USE PATHS. UM, AND IT IS, UM, INCLUDED IN OUR PRINTED BUDGET DOCUMENT AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING THAT AGAIN IN THE, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT, UM, MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT SENDING THAT TO YOU IN ADVANCE SO THAT YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, A PRIORITY ONE ACTUALLY IS DEFINED AS. I CAN KINDA GUESS WHAT THEY'RE, BUT YEAH. YEAH. BUT IF WE GUESS WHAT I FIND WE CAN PULL IT UP, I'M SUGGEST IS COMMUNITY BENEFIT MIGHT BE A PRIORITY. YEAH. I LIKE THAT IDEA ACTUALLY, MELISSA. SO I THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY OF WHAT WE DID THIS TIME IN OUR PRIORITY SETTING, WE SAID THAT THESE WERE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES. COMMUNITY'S ONE OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY. MM-HMM . RIGHT? SO COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE HAD HOUSING. AND WE HAD TRANSPORTATION. SO THOSE, WE, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE WITH THOSE, THOSE THREE LENSES OR PERSPECTIVES AS WE GO THROUGH HERE AND WE DECIDE DOES, IS THIS SOMETHING REALLY HIGH FOR THE COMMUNITIES AT HIGH? WE SAID TRANSPORTATION, WE SAID WHATEVER. BUT OTHERWISE, I'M NOT SURE WHY WE DO THE PRIORITIES IF WE'RE NOT GONNA USE THEM TO HELP FIGURE OUT WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE BUDGET. AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU, UH, COUNSELOR, BUT I AM SURPRISED AFTER ALL OF THE RIGOROUS DEBATE WE HAD ABOUT WHAT WAS PRIORITY THREE, AND I BELIEVE YOU WERE IN THE CAMP OF ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION THAT DID END UP BEING NUMBER THREE. OH NO, IT'S NUMBER FOUR. AND IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF COMMUNITY IN MY MIND. 'CAUSE TO DIVERSIFY, WE CHANGE THE NATURE AND IT POTENTIALLY OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE WON'T GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT DISCUSSION. UM, BUT YES, IT WAS FOUR BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR SAID AT THE TIME, THERE'S NO LAW THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE THREE JUST BECAUSE HE SAID IT WAS THREE. RIGHT. SO WE ENDED UP WITH FOUR. I STILL THINK NUMBER THREE WAS YOUR ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION. SO I, UM, YOU ALL ALSO GAVE US DIRECTION TO USE A SIMILAR MATRIX FOR OTHER CIP PROJECTS THAT WE USE ON THE SHARED USE PATHS. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE DEVELOPING TO AND WE'LL BRING BACK TO YOU. UM, AND THAT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY YOURS WOULD BE TO INCLUDE YOUR NEW CORE PRIORITIES AS PART OF THAT MATRIX. THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BARBARA. THANK YOU. YEAH. WE'RE CON UH, I'M CONFUSED ON YOUR DEFINITION OF PRIORITY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIORITIES AS THEY RELATED TO THE OKAY. RETREAT PRIORITIES. YES. I WAS THINKING OF TYPICAL BUDGET PRIORITIZATION, MEANING LEGALLY MANDATED HEALTH AND SAFETY AND THEN BELOW THAT. EXACTLY. WELL, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TAKE THOSE FOUR PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH ARE BASICALLY CORRECT. THE CONDITION DANGEROUS TO HEALTH OR SAFETY, IT'S MANDATED, ALLEVIATES AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. AND THEN YOU HAVE PRIORITY TWO, WHICH IS LIKE REPLACES SOMETHING THAT'S OBSOLETE. UM, THERE'S VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, LEVELS, BUT THOSE DON'T INCLUDE THOSE CORE COUNCIL PRIORITIES, RIGHT. IT'S A DIFFERENT WORD. SO IT'S LIKE COMBINING THOSE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HERE'S WHAT THEY SCORE ON THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND THAT, AND THAT WAY YOU ALL HAVE A MORE TRANSPARENT PICTURE OF HOW WE THINK THEY SCORE. AND THEN OF COURSE YOU ALL CAN SAY WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S LEGALLY MANDATED RIGHT. IT'S LEGALLY MANDATED AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE, LET'S MAKE SURE WE DON'T [04:10:01] RIGHT. WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT. CONFUSE THAT ONE IN . ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON PROJECTS YOU WANT US TO INCLUDE THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE IN THIS LIST OR ANYTHING YOU WOULD PREFER NOT? IT SEEMED PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE TO ME, BUT GO AHEAD. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING WE, THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T SEE OR TALK ABOUT IS HOUSING AND HOUSING PROJECTS. IF HOUSING IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE ANYTHING THERE OR GET AN UPDATE MM-HMM . ON WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I REALIZE THAT TONY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND HE'S GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON OR WHATEVER. BUT WELL, FROM THE BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNSELOR DUNN HOUSING HAS ITS OWN FUND. UM, AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE HOUSING FUND WITH YOU. UM, WHAT THIS IS REFLECTING IS THAT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON THE CITY ITSELF CONSTRUCTING ANY HOUSING USING CIP MONEY IN THE NEXT YEAR. BUT WE WILL GO OVER THE BUDGET FOR THE HOUSING PROGRAM, THE, UM, INCENTIVES, THE MATCHES, ALL OF THE MONEY THAT YOU WILL WANNA SET ASIDE TO ADVANCE THOSE STRATEGIES. SO THAT THAT'S COMING. YEAH. THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP KNOWING THIS IS THE CIP IS FOR THE SAME REASON THEY BROUGHT IT UP AROUND THE WESTERN GATEWAY AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'D BE ANY CIP PROJECTS REQUIRED FOR CF IF WE, IF WE KNOW FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO'S GONNA GO DEVELOP UM, SUNSET, UM, THEN, OR WHATEVER ITS NAME IS GOING TO BE, DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING THERE TO BRING IN ANY OF, ANY OF THE CITY UTILITIES? SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY ONLY REAL QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY OF THAT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU BARBARA. WE HAVE HOW MUCH MONEY IS, OR STERLING, HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE HOUSING FUND RIGHT NOW? I THINK 20 OR SOMETHING. I THOUGHT IT WAS 20. GIVE US JUST A SECOND. STERLING'S LIKE REALLY GOOD AT FINDING STUFF QUICKLY. AND SO ONCE WE KNOW, MY SECOND QUESTION IS FOR YOU BARBARA DOES, BECAUSE THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND, DOES IT STAY THERE AND HOW, HOW DOES IT, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE SOME PORTION OF IT IN THE BUDGET, RIGHT? IT'S ACTUALLY A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND MM-HMM . UM, WHICH MEANS IT, IT'S A GOVERNMENTAL FUND, SO IT'S NOT RUN LIKE AN ENTERPRISE FUND. OKAY. BUT IT HAS THAT SAME LIKE THE FUND BALANCE. IF WE WANNA SPEND IT, THE RESERVES, WE HAVE TO BUDGET THEM. RIGHT. AND IT IS CERTAINLY ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO SAY WE WANNA PUT IN HOUSING CONTINGENCY X NUMBER OF MILLIONS FROM THAT FUND. YOU CAN GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO FR 25 ESTIMATES WERE ENDING FUND BALANCES OF 19.6 MILLION. CAN YOU TALK IN YEAH, YEAH. ESTIMATED FUND BALANCES FOR FY 25 IS 19.6 MILLION. 19000019.6. YEAH. END OF FY LET'S CALLED 25. HOW ABOUT, WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION FOR END OF FY 26 ENDING FUND BALANCES OF 17.6 MILLION WITH, UH, IT JUST DEPENDS IF THE $2 MILLION CONTINGENCY IS USED RIGHT NOW, IT'S LISTED AS AN EXPENDITURE, BUT IF IT DOESN'T GET USED, THEN THAT BALANCE WOULD GO BACK UP. AND WHEN IS TONY COMING TO PRESENT TO US OR IS THAT SCHEDULED? YOU HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION WITH HIM. FEBRUARY, UH, 24TH, BUT THE BIG WORK SESSION IS MARCH 25TH. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S TIME. YES MA'AM. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT. NO OBJECTION. [5. ADJOURNMENT ] THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.