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          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
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I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 4:31 PM I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE PUT YOUR PHONES ON SILENCE AND THEN STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          AND NOW A MOMENT OF SILENCE. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, 
          [2.  ROLL CALL/MOMENT OF ART ]
PLEASE READ THE ROLE. 
          MAYOR PLU. 
          HERE, VICE MAYOR FOLTZ. 
          PRESENT. 
          COUNCILOR DUNN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCILOR FURMAN. 
          PRESENT. 
          COUNCILOR HOSNI. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCILOR KINSELLA. 
          PRESENT. 
          COUNSELOR FAF HERE. 
          OKAY, NOW WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE MOMENT OF ART, NANCY. 
          ONE SECOND. 
          NANCY. 
          I CAN, YOU CAN SIT RIGHT HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNSELORS. 
          UM, FOR FEBRUARY'S MOMENT OF ART, UH, WE WILL BE HONORING THE HISTORY OF ART IN SEDONA. 
          I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AND THANK MY COLLABORATOR, MARK ROUND, WHO HAS PLAYED AN INTEGRAL ROLE SHARING SO MUCH INFORMATION WITH ME. 
          THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVING FUNDS TO PURCHASE HISTORICAL ART, UM, FROM MARK AND UM, IT'S NOW IN OUR PUBLIC ART COLLECTION. 
          THESE PIECES WILL BE FEATURED IN THIS PRESENTATION AND THEY RESIDE IN THE VOLTI CONFERENCE ROOM. 
          MARK AND HIS WIFE DARCY, HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF SEDONA FOR OVER TWO DECADES. 
          MARK'S ACADEMIC BACKGROUND IN ART AND ART HISTORY FROM RICE UNIVERSITY, INSPIRED HIS DEEP INTEREST IN THE SURREALISTIC MOVEMENT, LEADING HIM TO CONDUCT EXTENSIVE RESEARCH INTO HIS HISTORY IN THE REGION. 
          HIS WORK SPECIFICALLY FOCUSES ON THE TIME MAX ERNST AND DOROTHY TANNING SPENT IN SEDONA DURING THE 1940S AND FIFTIES. 
          HE HAS DOCUMENTED THEIR ENDURING INFLUENCE ON MODERN ART. 
          HE HAS ALSO AN AVID COLLECTOR WHO HAS LONE ARTWORKS AND PLAYED A KEY ROLE ORGANIZING EXHIBITIONS FOR THE SEDONA ART CENTER, THE SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM, YAVAPAI COLLEGE, AND AN UPCOMING EXHIBITION ON SURREALISM OPENING NEXT MONTH AT THE FREUD MUSEUM IN LONDON. 
          IN 2021, MARK ACQUIRED CAPRICORN HILL, THE HISTORIC HOME AND STUDIOS OF ERNST AND TANNING. 
          HIS ONGOING RESEARCH AND PRESERVATION EFFORTS AT THE PROPERTY HAVE LED TO ITS RECOGNITION BY THE LONDON SUNDAY TIMES AS ONE OF THE TOP 10 SITES IN THE WORLD FOR THE HISTORY OF SURREALISTIC MOVEMENT. 
          ADDITIONALLY, HE HAS PRESENTED LECTURES FOR INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR STUDY OF SURREALISM, THE BRANDEIS NATIONAL COMMITTEE, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA MUSEUM OF ART. 
          HE REMAINS ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE BROADER ART WORLD, FREQUENTLY COLLABORATING WITH SCHOLARS, AUTHORS, MUSEUM CURATORS, FOUNDATION DIRECTORS DEDICATED TO THIS UNIQUE ARTISTIC LEGACY. 
          HE'S ALSO A SURREALISTIC PAINTER AND A DRUMMER HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO SAY, BUT I HAVE TO SHARE THAT  WELCOME MARK ROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH, WE'RE GONNA ALTERNATE SLIDES TEXAS AND NEW YORK, SO IT SHOULD ALL EVEN OUT TO THE TIME YOU WANT, . 
          UM, SO THIS FIRST SLIDE IS JUST FEATURING WHO WE ARE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          MAX ERNST DOROTHY TANNING, LILLIAN WILHELM SMITH, CHARLES LMA, OSWALD WHITE BEAR FREDERICKS LILLIAN WILHELM SMITH'S 1948. 
          LOCKETT MEADOW PAINTING CURRENTLY HANGS IN THE VOLTE ROOM. 
          LILLIAN WAS A HIGHLY EDUCATED PAINTER, CONSIDERED A CHILD PRODIGY AT THE AGE OF 12. 
          SHE STUDIED UNDER THE SAME TEACHERS AS GEORGIA O'KEEFE AT BOTH THE ART STUDENTS LEAGUE AND COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. 
          FIRST ARRIVING IN ARIZONA. 
          IN 1913. 
          SHE BECAME BEST KNOWN AS ZANG GRAY'S ILLUSTRATOR. 
          LILLIAN WAS THE FEATURED ARTIST AT THE RECENT EXHIBITION OF EARLY ARIZONA WOMEN ARTISTS AT THE WESTERN SPIRIT MUSEUM IN SCOTTSDALE. 
          THIS EXHIBITION WAS CURATED FROM A COLLECTION OF OVER 200 PAINTINGS BY ARIZONA WOMEN ARTISTS. 
          LILLIAN'S LARGE PAINTING OF A SACRED SITE IN CHITA DATED 1936, CURRENTLY HANGS IN THE VOLTE ROOM. 
          THE SCENE DEPICTS A NAVAJO SHEPHERD TENDING A FLOCK OF SHEEP ALONGSIDE A HOGAN. 
          BEFORE MOVING TO SEDONA IN 1937, LILLIAN SERVED AS THE ARTISAN RESIDENCE DURING WINTERS AT THE BILTMORE CALL OF SEDONA, I'M SORRY, CALL OF THE CANYON TYPO. 
          CALL OF THE CANYON. 
          FILLED IN 1923, PUT SEDONA ON 
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THE MAP AND WAS ADAPTED FROM ZANE GRAY'S NOVEL CALL OF THE CANYON SET IN WEST FORK. 
          ZANE GRAY WAS THE MOST POPULAR AMERICAN AUTHOR OF THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY. 
          OVER 110 MOVIES WERE ADAPTED FROM HIS BOOKS. 
          MANY OF THESE FILMS UTILIZED SEDONA AS THEIR CINEMATIC BACKDROP LEADING THE WORLD TO IDENTIFY SEDONAS RED ROCKS. 
          AS THE LANDSCAPE OF THE AMERICAN WEST GRAY EARNED AN ESTIMATED 37 MILLION IN REVENUE FROM HIS MOVIES AND BOOKS. 
          A STAGGERING SUM FOR THAT ERA. 
          IN 1937, LILIAN PURCHASED PROPERTY IN SEDONA, INCLUDING LAND THAT WAS PART OF SEDONA SIBLEY'S ORIGINAL HOMESTEAD, A PORTION OF WHICH LATER BECAME TO LAAK LOS ABOGADOS AND THE NEW RANGER STATION PARK. 
          THE SHAKAYA GUEST RANCH OFFERED RUSTIC VACATION COTTAGES FOR $100 PER MONTH. 
          TWO WESTERNS WERE FILMED ON LOCATION THERE, BILLY THE KID, 1941 AND GUNFIGHTERS 1947. 
          THE LADDER WAS BASED ON A ZANE GRAY NOVEL. 
          ON THE RIGHT IS LILLIAN'S 1939 SIGN LITHOGRAPH OF WILSON MOUNTAIN. 
          OWNED BY THE CITY IN THE VOLTI MAX ERNST. 
          DOROTHY TANNING FIRST ARRIVED IN SEDONA IN MAY, 1943, RENTING A COTTAGE FROM LILLIAN UNTIL MID-OCTOBER. 
          THEY RETURNED TO EAST WITH NEW PAINTINGS CREATED IN SEDONA THAT ARE NOW FEATURED IN MAJOR MUSEUMS AROUND THE WORLD. 
          AT THE TIME, MAX RECORDED IN HIS BIOGRAPHY THAT ONLY 16 PEOPLE WERE LIVING IN SEDONA. 
          DOROTHY FAMOUSLY REMARKED THAT IT WAS SO SMALL YOU COULDN'T EVEN CALL IT A VILLAGE. 
          . 
          ERNST AND TANNING RETURNED IN 1946, BOUGHT LAND FROM CHARLIE BREWER AND BUILT THEIR LEGENDARY HOME AND STUDIOS ON BREWER ROAD, WHICH THEY NAMED CAPRICORN HILL. 
          THIS SLIDE FEATURES MAX ERNST MICROBES TINY PAINTINGS OF THE SOUTHWEST LANDSCAPE CREATED IN SEDONA AND PUBLISHED IN LIFE MAGAZINE IN 1951. 
          ONE MICROBE MEASURES TWO BY TWO AND A HALF INCHES. 
          AN ORIGINAL MICROBE WAS SELLING FOR UP TO SIX FIGURES. 
          THE ARTICLE AND EXAMPLES OF HIS MICROBES ARM VIEW IN THE VAULTY. 
          AND WE OWN TWO MICROBES. 
          THIS IS A LITHOGRAPH OF AN ORIGINAL ARTWORK THAT WAS EXHIBITED AT THE SEDONA ART CENTER'S GRAND OPENING IN MAY OF 1961. 
          FOREST AND SON DATED 1956 IS OWNED BY THE CITY HANGING IN THE VOLTI. 
          DOROTHY IS 1975. 
          SIGNED LITHOGRAPH HOMAGE TO MAX IS OWNED BY THE CITY. 
          IN HANGING IN THE ULTI, DOROTHY EXPLAINED TO HER FRIEND HELEN FRY, THAT THIS ARTWORK REPRESENTED MAX AS THE ELEPHANT. 
          DOROTHY, AS YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM, SUNBATHING HELEN AS THE MODEL AND JACK FRY FLYING HIS TWIN EDGE IN PLANE TO SEDONA. 
          JACK WAS THE PRESIDENT OF TWA. 
          HE AND HELEN OWN THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOW RED ROCK STATE PARK, WHERE THEY BUILT THE HOUSE OF APACHE FIRES. 
          OUR CLASSES BEGAN AT THE OLD SEDONA SCHOOLHOUSE. 
          NOW THE SEDONA CITY OFFICES ON BREWER ROAD ACCREDITED THROUGH A SU. 
          THIS FIVE WEEK CRASH COURSE ATTRACTED STUDENTS FROM 28 STATES. 
          DR. HARRY WOOD TAUGHT PAINTING, THE SANGO BRAUN TAUGHT SCULPTURE. 
          AND CHARLES LUMA, ALONG WITH HIS WIFE ELLI, TAUGHT CERAMICS AND SILVERSMITHING. 
          IN 1959, ARIZONA HIGHWAYS PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE HIGHLIGHTING THESE SUMMER SESSIONS. 
          LMA WORKED IN MANY MEDIUMS, BUT BEST KNOWN FOR HIS INNOVATIVE JEWELRY DESIGNS. 
          HE INTEGRATED MODERN ART PRINCIPLES INTO HIS WORK, BECOMING KNOWN AS THE FOUNDER OF HOPI MODERNISM. 
          THE HERD MUSEUM FEATURED HIS WORK IN RETROSPECTIVES AND PERMANENT COLLECTIONS. 
          HIS WORK IS FREQUENTLY REPRESENTED BY MAJOR AUCTION HOUSES LIKE CHRISTIE'S AND SOTHEBY'S. 
          HIS ARTWORK IS CURRENTLY HANGING IN THE VOLTE WHITE BEAR WAS A HOPI ARTIST WHO WORKED IN SEVERAL MEDIUMS AND LIVED ON COLOR CODE NEAR CITY HALL. 
          HE'S BEST KNOWN FOR THE PUBLICATION BOOK OF THE HOPI IN 1964, WHICH SOLD MILLIONS OF COPIES. 
          FEARING THAT THE ANCIENT ORAL HISTORIES OF THE HOPI ELDERS MIGHT BE LOST. 
          HE RECORDED AND TRANSLATED STORIES FROM 30 ELDERS. 
          ITS PUBLICATION HELPED SPARK THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT, THE HIPPIE MOVEMENT, AND THE PERCEPTION OF SEDONA AS A SPIRITUAL CENTER. 
          A STREET NEAR CITY HALL IS NAMED AFTER WHITE BEAR. 
          THEIR EXAMPLES OF HIS WORK HANGING IN THE VOLTE, JIMMY ERNST MAX'S SON AND HIS WIFE DALLAS, ACQUIRED CAPRICORN HILL FROM MAX AND DOROTHEA. 
          IN 1959. 
          JIMMY TAUGHT AT THE SEDONA ART CENTER WHILE DALLAS STUDIED CERAMICS WITH LOLA MA, WHO WAS REPORTEDLY A FREQUENT VISITOR TO CAPRICORN HILL. 
          JIMMY WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE ABSTRACT EXPRESSIONISTIC MOVEMENT ALONGSIDE ARTISTS LIKE JACKSON P*****K AND MARK ROTHKO IN THE, THE PICTURE. 
          JIMMY'S ARTWORK IS CURRENTLY HANGING IN THE VOLTI ON THE LEFT. 
          DOROTHY IS 1958. 
          AQUATINT THE WELCOME IS OWNED BY THE CITY HANGING IN THE VOLTI ROOM. 
          TANNING WORKED IN MANY MEDIUMS, INCLUDING PAINTING, DRAWING, LITHOGRAPHY, AQUATINT AND ETCHINGS, AS WELL AS SOFT SCULPTURE. 
          SHE WAS ALSO RENOWNED FOR HER WRITING OF POETRY. 
          AUTHORED TWO MEMOIRS WITH CHAPTERS 
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ON HER EARLY DAYS IN SEDONA. 
          HER RECENT AUCTION RECORD JUST LAST NOVEMBER AT SOTHEBY'S FOR A 1951 PAINTING THAT WAS PAINTED IN SEDONA, SOLD FOR $3.2 MILLION. 
          MAX'S MOST FAMOUS SCULPTURE, CAPRICORN STOOD IN THE GARDENS AT THEIR HOME ON BREWER ROAD FOR DECADES. 
          BRONZE CAST, A SERIES OF EIGHT MADE FROM THE ORIGINAL NOW RESIDE AND MAJOR MUSEUMS AROUND THE GLOBE, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL GALLERY, EXCUSE ME, NATIONAL GALLERY OF ART IN WASHINGTON DC MAX'S CURRENT AUCTION RECORD IS 24.4 MILLION FOR A BRONZE SCULPTURE SOLD AT CHRISTIE'S. 
          CURRENTLY A MAJOR MUSEUM EXHIBITION OF MAX AND DOROTHEA'S ARTWORKS FROM SEDONA IS IN THE PLANNING STAGES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, A NEW $500 MILLION MUSEUM OF MODERN ART IN BERLIN OPENING SOON WILL PROMINENTLY FEATURE ARTWORKS BY MAX AND DOROTHEA FROM SEDONA IN THEIR COLLECTION. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NANCY, MAYBE YOU SHOULD MENTION ABOUT THE CALL OF THE CANYON, THE SCULPTURE IN UPTOWN. 
          OH SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE JUST RECENTLY, UM, THIS SEDONA, I DUNNO IF NATE'S HERE. 
          THE SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM PURCHASED THE CALL OF THE CANYON, WHICH WAS UP AT THE MUSEUM, UH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          AND WE HAD IT MOVED AND INSTALLED IN UPTOWN, IN THE NORTH PART OF THE VIEW WALK RIGHT ACROSS FROM PINK JEEP CAFE. 
          AND WE HAD A NICE TURNOUT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TO CELEBRATE THAT, AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE TOO. 
          SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT, SOMETHING I LEARNED A LOT PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, UH, CONSENT ITEMS. 
          [3. CONSENT ITEMS - APPROVE]
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL, STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO PULL AN ITEM OFF OF CONSENT? OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSENT TO, UH, UH, APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS THREE A THROUGH C. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'RE UNANIMOUS. 
          NEXT ITEM IS APPOINTMENTS. 
          WE HAVE NONE. 
          WE'LL GO TO SUMMARY OF 
          [5. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY MAYOR/COUNCILORS/CITY MANAGER & COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS]
CURRENT EVENTS BY THE MAYOR, COUNCILORS, CITY MANAGER, AND COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS. 
          DO ANY COUNSELORS OR THE CITY MANAGER HAVE AN EVENT OR ASSIGNMENT TO SHARE? BRIAN? THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, ALONG WITH COUNSELOR DUNN, UH, WE'VE ATTENDED THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS OF THE UPTOWN PARKING WORKING GROUP AND, UH, THAT'S BEEN VERY WELL ORGANIZED, WELL ATTENDED. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT A GREAT MIX OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES. 
          EVERYTHING IS ON TRACK THUS FAR. 
          UM, THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL PROVIDED AT THE LAST MEETING WAS SHARED WITH THE WORKING GROUP AND, UH, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO, TO PLOW FORWARD. 
          THE NEXT TWO TO THREE MEETINGS ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED. 
          COUNCILLOR DUNN, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? NOPE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I HAVE SOMETHING, THIS ARTIST THAT YOU SEE ALL AROUND YOU. 
          THERE WILL BE A, ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 19TH FROM FOUR TO 6:00 PM RIGHT HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THERE WILL BE A RECEPTION FOR CHRISTINE DUB BROSKY AND HOPE EVERYBODY WILL BE THERE. 
          THERE'LL ALSO BE A MUSICAL GUEST, AND THE EXHIBIT IN THE VOLTI CONFERENCE ROOM WILL ALSO BE OPEN. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE WONDERFUL WORKS OF ART FROM DOROTHY TANNING AND MAX ERNST, AS WELL AS ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE IN THE VOLTI AT THAT TIME. 
          UH, SO WE HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US. 
          WE ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TIME. 
          MUSIC, FOOD, BEVERAGES, ARTISTS. 
          IT'S A NICE EVENT. 
          MAYOR, UH, I DO HAVE ONE THING. 
          THE SEDONA HUMANE SOCIETY IS HAVING THEIR HSS CREDIT CLASSIC GOLF TOURNAMENT, APRIL 12TH, 2026, DOWN IN, I BELIEVE THE VILLAGE. 
          UH, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SPONSORS, SO ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HELP THEM OUT. 
          YOU CAN EITHER SPONSOR OR PLAY OR BOTH OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, UH, APRIL 12TH, 2026. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DEREK, ANNETTE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND, UH, THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE OUR ST. 
          PATRICK'S DAY PARADE COMING UP. 
          IT'S SATURDAY, MARCH 14TH, AND IT'LL BEGIN AT THE MUSEUM UP ON JORDAN ROAD, AND IT WILL GO DOWN JORDAN ROAD AND END AT, DOES IT SAY WE'RE, IT'S ENDING. 
          IT DOESN'T SAY WHERE IT'S ENDING AT THE END OF JORDAN ROAD. 
          ANYWAY, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT. 
          IT'S A GREAT TIME, AND IF FOLKS ARE WANTING TO ENTER, UM, 
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FLOAT OR PARADE ENTRIES, PLEASE REACH OUT TO PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          WHEN IS THE DEADLINE FOR THAT? ANNETTE? UH, DO THEY HAVE THE DEADLINE ON THERE? I, I DON'T HAVE THE DEADLINE AT THE MOMENT, BUT I WILL GET THAT AND, AND LET YOU KNOW IN HERE. 
          JUST A MINUTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, 
          [6. EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT]
KURT, EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT. 
          UH, THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          NOW OPEN UP 
          [7. PUBLIC FORUM]
THE PUBLIC FORUM. 
          THIS IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, AND I HAVE TWO CARDS IF ANYBODY, OH, I HAVE THREE CARDS. 
          IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD. 
          TIM, YOU'RE UP. 
          GOOD EVENING, COUNSELORS. 
          MY NAME IS TIM PERRY AND I LIVE IN SEDONA. 
          IN TONIGHT'S INSTALLMENT OF THE LIES TOLD BY THE CITY OF SEDONA, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS SOME ONGOING TRANSPARENCY ISSUES WITH THE CITY. 
          A SUBJECT NEAR AND DEAR TO THE HEARTS OF OUR MAYOR AND VICE. 
          DURING COUNCIL'S DECEMBER RETREAT, JOSH RU, AN INFORMED COUNCIL THAT PARKS AND REC WAS GETTING SO MANY REQUESTS FOR EVENT RENTAL OF THE CULTURAL PARK, THAT THEY COULD HAVE AN EVENT THERE. 
          EVERY WEEK OUT OF THE YEAR, I PUT IN A RECORDS REQUEST FOR THOSE INQUIRIES, AND AS OF THIS MORNING, I HAD RECEIVED ONE SET OF INQUIRIES FROM ONE PERSON, ONE SET OF EMAILS. 
          FIRST, THE OTHER 51, EITHER JOSHIN IS DRAGGING HIS FEET TO AN EXTENT NOT PERMITTED BY STATE LAW, OR THE INQUIRIES WERE NEVER MADE. 
          AND HE LIED TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHY HE'S STILL EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF SEDONA. 
          IF THAT'S THE CASE. 
          NOW, HE COULD OF COURSE, SAY SOME OF THESE WERE VERBAL OR MADE OVER THE PHONE, BUT IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WHY WOULDN'T HE HAVE MADE A RECORD OF THEM? ARE CITY STAFF NOT RECORDING INFORMATION THAT RUNS COUNTER TO THEIR PREFERRED NARRATIVE, JUST LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO FAKE THE NUMBERS FOR A HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST? SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN THE STATE OF DENMARK, AND LATELY IT'S NOT JUST THE CROWN PRINCESS OF NORWAY. 
          ANOTHER ISSUE THAT COMES UP IS THE ABSENCE OF TRANSCRIPTS OF THESE MEETINGS FROM THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY RECALL THAT THOSE TRANSCRIPTS WERE PULLED OFF YEARS AGO AFTER JESSICA WILLIAMSON DELIBERATELY ATTEMPTED TO MISLEAD COUNSEL AND PUBLIC BY FALSELY STATING THAT THE PROPORTION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN TOWN WAS 66 0% INSTEAD OF 16 ONE 6%. 
          I CALLED HER ON IT, THE TRANSCRIPTS BACK ME UP. 
          AND IN A FIT OF PEAK, AND OF COURSE TO STROKE, JESSICA'S EGO, LAUREN BROWN PULLED THE TRANSCRIPTS. 
          HOWEVER, JESSICA IS NO LONGER IN THE PICTURE AND WE HAVE A NEW MINISTER FOR PROPAGANDA. 
          SO HOW ABOUT GETTING SOME OF THOSE TRANSCRIPTS BACK OUT THERE? THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S UP TO, BUT WHO DO NOT HAVE GOBS OF TIME TO SIT AND WATCH YOU M********E IN PUBLIC FOR FIVE HOURS. 
          ONE MORE THING. 
          THE CITY HAS YET TO RELEASE A BUDGET SURVEY FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE, WHICH KIND OF TELLS US JUST HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA SPEND OUR MONEY. 
          WE KNOW YOU GUYS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE KNOW YOU DON'T ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, BUT YOU COULD AT LEAST DO A BETTER JOB OF PRETENDING TRY HARDER DARLINGS. 
          RACHEL COLLINS, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL JAMES, LONG LONGMAN. 
          UH, RACHEL, YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE PLEASE. 
          MY NAME IS RACHEL COLLINS AND I RESIDE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA. 
          TONIGHT, I WANT TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE OF FRAUD, WASTE, AND ABUSE, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OR BEING PERPETRATED BY THE CITY. 
          AND THIS IS PART ONE. 
          THIS IS RELATED TO THE UNUSABLE HOMELESS HOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM. 
          NOW, MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT PROGRAM, SO I HOPE TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE SEDONA WELL, RED ROCK NEWS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO THAT AS OF TUESDAY, JANUARY 13TH, ONLY ONE PERSON HAD USED THE CITY'S $15,000 COLD WEATHER EMERGENCY OVERNIGHT PROGRAM. 
          SINCE THE CONTRACT WAS FINALIZED WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES IN AUGUST. 
          ON AUGUST 3RD, ONE PERSON STAYED FOR TWO NIGHTS. 
          NOW THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. 
          IT IS BECAUSE THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE ENTERED, IF YOU WILL, BY A PERSON WHO IS CONTACTED BY A POLICE OFFICER, A POLICE OFFICER DOING COLD WEATHER PATROLS. 
          BUT WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS IT CAN'T BE USED BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL BY CITY ORDINANCE TO BE HOMELESS WITHIN THE SEDONA CITY LIMITS. 
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SO HOW AND WHEN WOULD A, A POLICE OFFICER LIKELY RUN INTO SOMEONE WHO'S IN NEED OF THE PROGRAM? SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU RE-LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU KNOW TO MAKE THE PROGRAM USABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE ELDERLY AND THEY'RE NOW, UH, UNABLE TO AFFORD ANY TYPE OF RENTAL HOUSING BECAUSE OF AIRBNBS AND BECAUSE THE CITY'S PREFERRING TOURISM OVER RESIDENTS. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED. 
          SO THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, AND THERE AREN'T THAT MANY, BUT THAT ARE HOMELESS IN SEDONA, ARE ELDERLY AND DISABLED, THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SLEEP OUTSIDE. 
          AND FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND I'VE MOVED HERE IN 2007, I WAS SEVERELY DISABLED MYSELF BECAUSE I HAD BEEN HIT BY A DRUNK DRIVER IN SCOTTSDALE. 
          AND IT DIDN'T MATTER THAT I WAS A DOUBLE MASTER DEGREE AT IVY LEAGUE EXECUTIVE CONSULTANT. 
          I COULDN'T WORK. 
          I DIDN'T WENT THROUGH A MILLION DOLLARS OF MY OWN MONEY FOR CARE OVER FOUR YEARS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIX ME. 
          I ENDED UP HERE. 
          'CAUSE YOU COULDN'T BE HOMELESS IN SEDONA, I MEAN IN SCOTTSDALE, IN THE WEATHER IN THE SUMMER, LIVING IN MY MINIVAN. 
          AND BACK THEN, 2007, THERE WAS MORE TOLERANCE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO WAS HERE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE HOUSED OR UNHOUSED EDUCATION, NATIONALITY. 
          I MEAN, IT WAS A COMMUNITY WHERE WE COULD JUST ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY AND LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY. 
          AND THAT HAS REALLY CHANGED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BEING LABELED AND THEY'RE BEING DETERMINED TO BE UNWORTHY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE INCREDIBLE RATES THAT WE NOW HAVE TO LIVE IN SEDONA FOR RESIDENTS. 
          SO I AM JUST ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS AND YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY COLD THIS COMING WEEKEND. 
          AND HOW ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THE HOMELESS, UH, HOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM IF A POLICE OFFICER DOESN'T FIND THEM, WHICH THEY WILL CRIMINALIZE THEM. 
          I WAS IN COURT ON SOMEONE'S BEHALF THIS MORNING WHO WAS CRIMINALIZED BECAUSE THEY WERE FOUND HOMELESS IN SEDONA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RACHEL. 
          CHIEF, COULD YOU SPEAK WITH THIS RESIDENT ABOUT THE PROGRAM OFFLINE? THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          MICHAEL LONGMAN. 
          HELLO, I GO BY MICHAEL JAMES LONG. 
          I'M AN ARIZONA STATE CITIZEN AND I'VE BEEN DOMICILED ON THE LAND OF SEDONA FOR NINE YEARS NOW. 
          I COME BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN AND THE UNIQUE ROLE THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND ALL OF US PEOPLE HAVE IN THIS UNION. 
          FIRST, A QUOTE FROM THOMAS PAYNE NOW ADAPTED INTO WHAT IS COMMONLY CALLED THE AMERICAN'S CREED. 
          I DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE A COMMON MAN. 
          IT IS MY RIGHT TO BE UNCOMMON. 
          I SEEK OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP WHATEVER TALLS GOD GAVE ME, NOT SECURITY. 
          I DO NOT WISH TO BE KEPT A CITIZEN HUMBLED AND DULLED BY HAVING THE STATE LOOK AFTER ME. 
          I WISH TO TAKE CALCULATED RISKS TO DREAM AND TO BUILD, TO FAIL AND TO SUCCEED. 
          I REFUSE TO BARTER INCENTIVE FOR A I I REFUSE TO BARTER INCENTIVE FOR A DOLL I FOR THE CHALLENGES OF LIFE TO THE GUARANTEE OF ITS EXISTENCE, THE THRILL OF FULFILLMENT TO THE STALE CALM OF UTOPIA. 
          I WILL NOT TRADE FREEDOM FOR BONNE NOR MY DIGNITY FOR A HANDOUT I'LL NEVER COWER BEFORE ANY EARTH PLAY MASTER NOR BEND ANY THREAT INTO MY HERITAGE. 
          TO STAND ERECT, PROUD AND UNAFRAID TO THINK AND ACT MYSELF, ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF MY CREATION, AND TO FACE THE WORLD BOLDLY AND SAY THIS, WITH GOD'S HELP I HAVE DONE. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN. 
          AND NOW QUOTE FROM DANIEL WEBSTER, THE AUTHOR OF THE DICTIONARY AND FAMOUS AMERICAN LAWYER. 
          I SHALL STAND BY THE UNION AND ALL WHO STAND BY IT. 
          I SHALL DO JUSTICE TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN ALL THAT I SAY AND ACT FOR THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN ALL THAT I DO. 
          I MEAN TO STAND UPON THE CONSTITUTION. 
          I NEED NO OTHER PLATFORM. 
          I SHALL KNOW, BUT ONE COUNTRY AND MY ENDS SHALL AIM, BE AT THAT COUNTRY, MY GODS AND TRUTHS. 
          I WAS BORN IN AMERICAN. 
          I LIVE IN AMERICAN AND I SHALL DIE IN AMERICAN. 
          I INTEND TO PERFORM THE DUTIES INCUMBENT UPON ME TO THAT CHARACTER TO THE END OF MY CAREER. 
          I INTEND TO DO THIS WITH ABSOLUTE PERSONAL DISREGARD OF ALL CONSEQUENCES. 
          WHAT ARE THE PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES? WHAT IS THAT? THE INDIVIDUAL MAN, ALL GOOD OR EVIL MAY BE TIED HIM IN COMPARISON TO THE GOOD OR EVIL THAT MAY BEFALL A GREAT COUNTRY AND IN THE MIDST OF GREAT TRANSACTIONS, CONCERN THAT COUNTRY'S FATE LET THE CONSEQUENCES BE WHAT THEY WILL. 
          I AM CARELESS FOR. 
          NO MAN CAN SUFFER TOO MUCH OR FALL TOO SOON IF HE SUFFER OR IF HE FALL IN DEFENSE OF THE LIBERTIES IN THE CONSTITUTION AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION OF 1910. 
          IT SAYS IN ARTICLE TWO, SECTION TWO, ALL POWER IS INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE AND THE GOVERNMENT DERIVED THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED AND ARE ESTABLISHED TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. 
          I AM ONE OF THESE PEOPLE AND I DO NOT CONSENT TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL OVERREACHES THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING. 
          AND NOW A COUPLE OF QUOTES FROM THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, DRED SCOTT V STANFORD 1857. 
          THE WORDS PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES AND CITIZENS ARE SYNONYMOUS TERMS AND MEAN THE SAME THING. 
          THEY BOTH DESCRIBE THE POLITICAL BODY, WHO ACCORDING TO OUR REPUBLICAN INSTITUTIONS, FORM THE SOVEREIGNTY AND HOLD THE POWER AND CONDUCT GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE REPRESENTATIVES. 
          THEY'RE WHAT WE FAMILIARLY CALL THE SOVEREIGN PEOPLE. 
          AND EVERY CITIZEN IS ONE OF THESE PEOPLE AND A CONSTITUENT MEMBER 
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OF THIS SOVEREIGNTY, YOIC VERSUS HOPKINS 1886. 
          SOVEREIGNTY ITSELF, OF COURSE IS NOT SUBJECT TO LAW, BUT IS THE AUTHOR AND SOURCE OF LAW. 
          BUT IN OUR SYSTEM, WHILE SOVEREIGN POWERS ARE DELEGATED TO THE AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT, SOVEREIGNTY ITSELF REMAINS THE PEOPLE FOR WHOM AND BY WHOM ALL GOVERNMENT EXISTS AND ACTS. 
          THE LAW IS THE DEFINITION AND THE LIMITATION OF POWER. 
          PLEASE DO NOT OVERSTEP THE CONSTITUTION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND CONSIDERATION. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, NOW WE'RE ON TO REGULAR 
          [9.b. AB 3299 Public hearing/discussion/possible action regarding Goodrow Housing: a request for approval of Zone Change from RS-10 (Single-Family Residential, 4 units per acre) to RM-3 (High-Density Multifamily, 20 units per acre) and Development Agreement to allow for the construction of 51 multifamily units at 60 Goodrow Lane. The subject property is ±2.9 acres and is located approximately 250 feet north of the intersection of Goodrow Lane and W State Route 89A (east of The Wilde Resort and Spa). APN: 408-24-069 Project/Case Number: Goodrow Housing /PZ24-00011 (ZC, DA) Owner/Applicant: BCT Sedona Multifamily, LLC (Basil Maher, Bruce Taylor)]
BUSINESS AB 32, 90, 89 OR 99, SORRY, PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING GOODROW HOUSING. 
          A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE FROM RS 10, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, FOUR UNITS PER ACRE TO RM THREE, HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY, 20 UNITS PER ACRE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 51 MULTIFAMILY UNITS AT 60 GOODROW LANE. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PLUS OR MINUS 2.9 ACRES AND IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 250 FEET NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF GOODROW LANE AND WEST STATE ROUTE 89 A EAST OF THE WILD RESORT AND SPA, A PN 4 0 8 DASH 24 DASH OH SIX NINE PROJECT. 
          CASE NUMBER, GOODROW HOUSING, EXCUSE ME, PZ 24 DASH 0 0 1. 
          ZC DA OWNER APPLICANT. 
          BCT SEDONA MULTIFAMILY, LLC, BASIL MAR, BRUCE TAYLOR. 
          CARRIE, THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          UM, WE ARE HERE FOR THE PROJECT THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED. 
          UM, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, UM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS ONE AS WELL. 
          AFTER I'M DONE, UM, YOU GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER ALL OF THAT IN DETAIL. 
          HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA GIVE AN AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, THIS IS MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE MAYOR JUST READ. 
          UM, THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A 51 UNIT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AT 60 GOOD ROAD LANE. 
          UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR BUILDING HEIGHT UNDER THE ALLOWANCES OF THE DIGA, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND GUIDELINES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO, UM, PROVISIONS IN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR AFFORDABILITY AND PROHIBITION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          UH, TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY, THIS YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE NECESSARILY, BUT UM, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS HIGHLIGHTED AS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. 
          UM, THIS IS RODEO AND STATE ROUTE 89 A. 
          YOU HAVE THE SAFEWAY SHOPPING CENTER HERE, THE WILD RESORT HERE. 
          YOU HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL ALONG THE HI BETWEEN THIS PROJECT AND THE HIGHWAY. 
          UM, AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TO THE EAST AND THEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE NORTH. 
          IT'S AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS AERIAL MAP WERE DEMOLISHED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. 
          SO IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. 
          THIS WAS A, UM, ZONE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT WAS BEING USED BY A CONTRACTOR FOR SOME STAGING THERE. 
          AND IT WAS, IT WAS A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE AT THE TIME. 
          BUT THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER, UM, DEMOLISHED THESE BUILDINGS. 
          IT, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER NEVER USED THESE BUILDINGS, BUT THE LOT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. 
          UM, THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN, THIS AREA HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A MIXED USE AREA, UM, AS A TRANSITIONAL AREA BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH. 
          THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF FOUR UNITS PER ACRE. 
          AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A DENSITY OR A ZONING OF RM THREE, UM, WHICH ALLOWS A DENSITY OF UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          AND THIS IS THE ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT. 
          UH, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN MAP. 
          UM, YOU HAVE THE, THE MIXED USE AREA IN GRAY HERE. 
          UM, THE PURPLE HERE IS THE COMMERCIAL LODGING DESIGNATION FOR THE WILD RESORT. 
          THE RED IS A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION AND THE YELLOW IS THE SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATION. 
          SO THIS IS THE AREA BETWEEN THAT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING MAP. 
          AGAIN, UH, FOLLOWS MOST OF THE SAME DESIGNATIONS AS THE COMMUNITY PLAN MAP, WHERE YOU HAVE THE RED BEING LODGING, THE BLUE BEING COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THIS DARKER BLUE IT SHOWS UP THERE. 
          UM, IS THE INDUSTRIAL AREA. 
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OH, OKAY. 
          UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. 
          UM, THIS ENTRANCE HERE COMES OFF OF BENNETT LAKE BENNETT WAY. 
          THIS ENTRANCE HERE IS OFF OF GOODROW. 
          YOU HAVE THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALONG IN THESE LOCATION. 
          AND THEN ON THE NORTH. 
          AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITES ARE THREE OR FOUR SEPARATE BUILDINGS WITH TOWN HOMES. 
          SO THERE'S A MIX OF APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES IN THIS PROJECT. 
          CONTEXT MAP SHOWS HOW IT FITS IN WITH THE STREET PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS, HOW IT TIES IN AND WHERE VARIOUS BUILDINGS ARE. 
          UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE BENNETT WAY, UH, BENNETT WAY WOULD BE EXTENDED THROUGH THE SITE, UM, AND WOULD ALLOW FOR, THERE IS NO CONNECTION THROUGH HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL ONE IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, BUT THIS PROJECT WOULD DEAD END AT THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          UM, THIS, THESE WERE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          UM, IN THE WEEKS SINCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ALTERATIONS TO THESE ELEVATIONS. 
          UM, MAINLY THIS NEXT SLIDE YOU SEE THEY WENT TO AN ALL FLAT ROOF, WHICH LOWER DID LOWER THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, AND SO REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS THEY WERE ASKING FOR. 
          AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN GO KIND OF GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY CHANGED. 
          BUT IN GENERAL, THE FOOTPRINTS HAVE STAYED THE SAME. 
          UM, BUT THE ROOF LINES OF THE BUILDING HAVE CHANGED, WHICH BROUGHT THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING DOWN. 
          SAME THING FOR THE TOWN HOMES WHERE THEY HAD SOME SLOPED ROOFS. 
          UM, THEY MADE SOME REVISIONS. 
          YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE, ACTUALLY THE OUTLINE OF THOSE SLOPED ROOFS ON THIS PAGE. 
          SO THAT'S THESE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THEY'RE DASH LINES. 
          BUT, UM, OVERALL THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWN HOME BUILDINGS CAME DOWN TO. 
          THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION STAGE, THE BUILDINGS DID NOT MEET ELEVATION VIEW MASSING WITH THESE CHANGES. 
          THEY DID COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH MASSING REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT P AND Z REVIEWED FOR. 
          UM, BUT THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THESE CHANGES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THE ZONE CHANGE BEING REQUESTED IS RS 10 TO RM THREE. 
          UM, THEY ARE PROJECTING, OR THE PROJECT IS BEING TARGETED TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 120% OF A MI. 
          THE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INCLUDES THAT 50% OF THE UNITS WILL BE RESERVED FOR PEOPLE EARNING 120% OF A MI OR LESS. 
          UM, THE, THAT DEED RESTRICTION WOULD BE VALID FOR 10 YEARS. 
          AND AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE OWNER TO DESIGNATE WHICH OF THOSE UNITS. 
          SO IT'S NOT SAYING THAT ALL OF THE ONE BEDROOMS ARE GONNA BE THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, IT'S GONNA BE AT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S DISCRETION, BUT AT LEAST 50% OF THE UNITS WOULD BE IN THAT CATEGORY. 
          UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES A RESTRICTION ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS OF THE PROJECT. 
          THERE IS SOME PRIORITY GIVEN TO THE LOCAL WORKFORCE. 
          THERE'S NO SUBLEASING AND THE PROJECT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY CITY MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, PUBLIC INPUT, THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, UM, WAS COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING IT WAS DONE BETWEEN WHEN WE ISSUED THE STAFF REPORT FOR P AND Z AND THE PNZ HEARING. 
          SO THE SUMMARY OF THAT WAS NOT IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REPORT. 
          THEY DID COMPLETE IT AND THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK THEY GOT, UM, THE PROJECT DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WEBPAGE, AND WE HAVE DONE ALL OF THE REQUIRED NOTICING. 
          UM, ALL COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED TO COUNSEL. 
          UM, I BELIEVE I SENT THE LAST BATCH YESTERDAY. 
          WE DID GET ONE THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT TO COUNSEL AS WELL. 
          SO I DID NOT HAVE THAT ONE. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. 
          UM, SO THERE'S ALL THE STANDARD REVIEW CATEGORIES APPLIED TO THIS PROJECT. 
          THE COMPLETE EVALUATION OF THAT WAS, UM, INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT, WHICH WAS PART OF YOUR PACKET. 
          UM, AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE EVALUATIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, BUT THERE'S LIKE 13 CATEGORIES, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE ONE BY ONE. 
          UM, AGAIN, FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE FULL EVALUATION IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. 
          UM, AND KIND OF THE ONE EXCEPTION THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS THE BUILDING HEIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, BUT JUST TO POINT OUT THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHEN THE PLANS WERE PRESENTED TO THEM, UM, THEY WERE REQUESTING, UM, HEIGHTS THAT ARE TALLER THAN 
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THE CURRENT BUILDINGS THROUGH S DOING SOME REDESIGN, CHANGING THE COLOR OF THE BUILDING AND ALL THAT. 
          THE EXCEPTIONS ARE, UM, ARE LOWER THAN THEY WERE WHEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE PROJECT. 
          SO THE NOT GET TO THE BUILDINGS GOT A LITTLE BIT SHORTER AND THE CODE ALLOWED EXCEPTIONS. 
          THE ALTERNATE STANDARDS WERE, UM, INCREASED. 
          SO THE PERMITTED HEIGHT WENT UP AND THE PROPOSED HEIGHT WENT DOWN. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SEEING, UM, THE DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN THE HEIGHTS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN AS I MENTIONED AGAIN OR EARLIER THAT THE, UM, THE REDESIGN OF THE BUILDING BROUGHT THE TOWNHOUSE BUILDINGS INTO COMPLIANCE WITH MASSING. 
          SO THERE IS NO EXCEPTION REQUESTED THERE. 
          UM, COMMUNITY PLAN, OTHER ADOPTED PLANS. 
          THE PROJECT IS PROVIDING VEHICLE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE CONNECTIONS IS EXTENDING BENNETT WAY AND IT IS CONTRIBUTING TO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND AVAILABILITY. 
          UM, AND AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, STAFF DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF THIS. 
          WE PROVIDED AN EVALUATION OF THE PROJECT, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, UM, WE HAD DIDN'T HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ABOUT HOW COUNCIL WANTED TO GO WITH SOME OF THE AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING AVAILABILITY, WE SIMPLY PROVIDED AN EVALUATION, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, REVIEWED THE PROJECT, HEARD ALL THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. 
          UM, SO AT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE. 
          THEY SUPPORTED THE REQUESTED EXCEPTIONS. 
          UM, THEY HAD A PREFERENCE FOR LONGER TIMEFRAMES FOR THE DEED RESTRICTION. 
          AND THEY ALSO EXPRESSED A DESIRE THAT THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO CLOSER ALIGNMENT WITH A SEDONA STYLE. 
          THAT WAS NOT A FORMAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL, BUT JUST SOMETHING THEY STATED DURING THE MEETING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT LED TO SOME OF THE, UM, DESIGN CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          SO IN THE COUPLE MONTHS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, THERE'S BEEN THE, UM, REDESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, TO REDUCING THE ASK FOR THE HEIGHT EXCEPTION, REDESIGNING THE TOWNHOUSES TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH MASSING. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE DRAFT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS, UM, IT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. 
          AND SO IT'S PART OF THIS PLANNING ZONING AND COMMISSION DOES NOT GIVE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          THEY JUST IN GENERAL REVIEWED THE CON THE PROPOSED CONTENTS OF IT AS PART OF THE ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION. 
          SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. 
          CITY COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO APPROVE OR DENY THE ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION. 
          IF THE ZONE CHANGE IS APPROVED, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHOULD ALSO BE APPROVED. 
          AND THEN, UM, BASED ON A STATE LAW THAT THE CITY HAS SIX MONTHS TO APPROVE OR DENY RESIDENTIAL REZONINGS. 
          UM, THE DEADLINE FOR THIS PROJECT IS MARCH 8TH, SO WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS THAN A MONTH IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS. 
          SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE OTHER PRESENTATION OR DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS NOW? WAIT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHO'S GONNA DO THE PRESENTATION FOR THE APPLICANT? I'M JUST COME OVER. 
          MY NAME IS BRUCE TAYLOR. 
          I'M THE LEAD ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE AT A MICROPHONE. 
          WE NEED YOU TO TALK INTO THE MIC 'CAUSE IT'S BEING RECORDED. 
          NOT LOUD ENOUGH. 
          , I DON'T HEAR THAT OFTEN. 
          . 
          SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS BRUCE TAYLOR. 
          I'M WITH SUMMIT DESIGN GROUP AND I'M THE LEAD ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. 
          UH, RYAN OLA BEHIND ME IS AN ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT. 
          WE'RE JOINT VENTURING ON THIS TOGETHER. 
          PETE AL TO MY SIDE WITH LAND SOLUTIONS IS THE PRIMARY LAND PLANNER. 
          SEFTON ENGINEERING HERE IN SEDONA IS THE, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN NOT HERE TONIGHT, I HAVE A MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING CONTRACT OR, UM, ENGINEER, EXCUSE ME, WITH OFFICES IN SALT LAKE, BUT WE'RE USING THEIR TEMPE OFFICE FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          AND OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IS ALSO FROM SALT LAKE. 
          UM, SO WITH THIS PROJECT, AS CARRIE EXPLAINED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A WORKFORCE ATTAINABLE HOUSING, UNDERSTANDING THAT SEDONA, MUCH LIKE PARK CITY, WHERE WE ARE FROM, IS REALLY HURTING FOR, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT'S, THAT'S AFFORDABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE COMMUNITY A COMMUNITY. 
          UM, BASIL AND MIMI CONTACTED US TO SEE WHAT WE COULD PRESENT, UH, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD 
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ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          AND THEY EARLY ON DEVELOPED THE, OR, UH, JOINED IN WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT OF A CONCEPT OF MAKING A A HOME FOR PEOPLE AND, AND NOT JUST ANOTHER APARTMENT BUILDING TO STORE YOUR STUFF AND, AND SLEEP AT NIGHT. 
          BUT, UH, AS I SAID IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, WE WANNA MAKE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE, NOT A SPACE FOR PEOPLE. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'VE COME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT UNIT TYPES. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, OR I'M SORRY, UH, ONE BEDROOM, UH, SINGLE OCCUPANT, UH, UNITS. 
          WE'VE GOT, UH, TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH FOR, UH, UH, IT'S A ROOMMATE SITUATION. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH SITUATIONS FOR MAYBE, UH, TWO YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTONOMY AND, AND SEPARATION, BUT STILL HAVE A ROOMMATE. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME TOWNHOUSE ELEMENTS WITH, UM, FOCUS ON, UH, MAYBE A FAMILY COULD BE THEIR, THEIR THREE BEDROOM UNITS. 
          AND, UH, THREE STORIES. 
          THE TOWN HOMES HAVE GARAGES, SO THEY'VE GOT ENCLOSED SPACE FOR CARS OR KAYAKS OR BIKES OR WHATEVER. 
          AND THEN THE APARTMENTS, WE CHOSE TO PUT A LOT OF THE PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING. 
          SO THE BUILDING IS ELEVATED. 
          WE HAVE AN 80 DA UNIT ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEN PARKING ON THE REST. 
          AND WHAT THAT DOES IS NOT ONLY PROVIDES COVERED PARKING, BUT IT MINIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF SITE COVERAGE AND ASPHALT, UH, 'CAUSE THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING ARE TAKING UP THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          UM, AS CARRIE ALSO MENTIONED, WE LISTENED TO THE COMMENTS FROM BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND, UM, MODIFIED THE ELEVATIONS BY REDUCING THE, UH, PRIMARY FOCUS OF, UH, SLOPED ROOFS, UH, AND CREATED MORE OF A, A PARAPET STYLE FLAT ROOF. 
          STILL LEAVING SOME SLOPED ROOFS AS, UH, AUGMENTATIONS AND INTEREST AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING, BUT ON A LOWER, UH, PART OF THE ELEVATIONS. 
          SO WE THINK ALONG WITH THE WORK THAT SPECIFICALLY MIMI HAS PUT IN, UH, SELECTING COLORS AND MATERIALS, WE THINK WE'RE A LOT CLOSER TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY MIGHT CONSIDER SEDONA STYLE RATHER THAN IMPORTING SOMETHING FROM, UH, OUT OF THE AREA, MUCH LIKE WHAT WE FACE AT HOME, WE SAY THE SAME THING AND KIND OF EMBARRASSED THAT WE BROUGHT THAT DOWN HERE WHEN THAT WASN'T WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO ANYWAY, WE, WE DID LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, WE WORKED WITH, UH, CARRIE AND TONY AFTER THE MEETINGS AS AS, UH, SHE HAD MENTIONED AND, UH, LOOKED AT THE, THE SHAPES AND THE MASSING AND THE HEIGHTS. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE HEIGHT EXCEPTION THAT YOU SEE IS THIS IS A SLOPING SITE AND WITH, UH, UH, BUILDINGS THAT WANNA BE FLAT. 
          WE DID STEP THEM A LITTLE BIT WITH THE GRADE, UH, BUT WHERE WE HAD TO BUILD UP THE GRADE TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUILDING. 
          THE HEIGHT CALCULATION IS TAKEN LITERALLY FROM THE TOP OF OUR ROOF DOWN TO EXISTING GRADE, WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN LIFTED WITH OUR FINAL GRADE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO WE REALLY ONLY HAVE, UH, THE APARTMENTS ARE, UM, UH, 38 FEET TALL TOTAL. 
          AND THE, UM, TOWN HOMES I, I BELIEVE ARE ONLY ABOUT 28 FEET TALL. 
          BUT AGAIN, THOSE NUMBERS EXCEEDED A LITTLE BIT JUST DUE TO THE GRADE THAT WE'RE CORRECTING. 
          UM, AND THEN A BIG THING THAT WE DID DO RIGHT FROM THE OUTSET WAS THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE DESIRE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE BENNETT WAY CONTINUE THROUGH OUR SITE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY CUT OUR SIGHT INTO TWO PIECES, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT AND THE HILLSIDES AND PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION TO WHAT NOW IS THE BACK OF A BUILDING. 
          AND THEN IF THE CITY, AGAIN, DOES EVER REIMAGINE WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THAT MAINTENANCE YARD, UH, THAT BUILDING COULD POSSIBLY GO AWAY AND THAT STREET COULD BE CONNECTED, WHICH WOULD KEEP MORE TRAFFIC OFF OF 89 A, EXCUSE ME, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS A REAL GOAL FOR THE CITY. 
          UM, AND JUST THE COUPLE OF DAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE, UM, ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TRIPS, NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS, SO WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP THAT OUT. 
          UH, PETE DOES HAVE A POWERPOINT WHERE WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS AND PERSPECTIVES, AND I'LL LET HIM TALK NOW AND HELP YOU THROUGH UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE CERTAINLY HERE TO ANSWER WHAT WE CAN. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME MATERIALS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE AFTER THE POWERPOINT. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BRIEFLY JUST GO THROUGH A SUMMARY OF, OF DOCUMENTS AGAIN, UH, ILLUSTRATING HOW THE SITE 
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PLAN LAYS OUT. 
          UM, WE STARTED, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WITH A DIFFERENT SCENARIO AND, UH, DUE TO GRADE ISSUES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, WE ENDED UP, UH, CHANGING BASICALLY THE ENTIRE, UH, SITE PLAN TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          SO THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE UP THERE TODAY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SHOWING THE EXISTING SITE AS THE ALTA SURVEY IS REQUIRED, UH, AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. 
          AND AGAIN, ALSO WHERE THE SITE IS, UH, TODAY, YOU KNOW, IN AN AERIAL VIEW. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT'S A FAIRLY SLOPING SITE. 
          IT'S, UH, FROM THE SOUTH END TO ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THROUGH, IT'S RELATIVELY GENTLE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST PORTION OF THE SITE SLOPES UP PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY TOWARDS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          SO THIS IS OUR OVERALL SITE PLAN, AND THIS HAS A LOT OF, LOT OF FACTS AND FIGURES AND NUMBERS RELATING TO, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, PARKING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, FAR NUMBERS, OPEN SPACE, NUMBERS, LANDSCAPE AREAS. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE PREDOMINANT PROJECT COMES IN OFF OF GOODROW. 
          YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE COME UP OUR MAIN SPINE ROAD. 
          AND, AND WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THIS SITE PLAN WAS THAT EACH OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WERE ABLE TO FLOAT, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THEIR OWN PER, YOU KNOW, BASIC GRADING BECAUSE THIS ROAD IS COMING UP AT A THREE TO 5% SLOPE. 
          SO AGAIN, THE BUILDINGS WERE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND THEN THE TRAVEL LANES ARE RELATIVELY FLAT AT ABOUT A 1% SLOPE. 
          SO EACH BUILDING WAS ABLE TO FIT INTO THE SITE WITH SOME MINIMAL GRADING. 
          THEN AS WE GET UP TOWARDS THIS END OF THE SITE WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE STEEPER, WE COME OFF OF GOODROW AGAIN HERE WITH THE PENNANT WAY EXTENSION. 
          UH, THESE TWO BUILDINGS OF TOWN HOMES ARE DUG INTO THE HILLSIDE. 
          SO AGAIN, FROM THE FRONT SIDE, YOU WOULD GET THE FULL EXPERIENCE OF THE TOWN HOME UNIT. 
          BUT ON THE BACKSIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE LIMITING THE, JUST THE TWO LEVELS. 
          SO AGAIN, TRYING TO BE, UH, COGNIZANT OF THE ZONING THAT'S BEHIND US. 
          UH, THESE TOWN HOMES ON THIS SIDE ARE, UH, ARE NOT BURIED INTO THE, INTO THE GRADES. 
          SO AGAIN, THEY STAND PROUD OF, OF THE SITE. 
          WE HAVE CURRENTLY WE'RE SHOWING, UH, TWO DETENTION BASINS. 
          ONE, ONE LOCATED HERE, ONE HERE. 
          AND THEN IN THE CENTER OF THE PROJECT, WE HAVE AN AREA THAT WE'VE DESIGNATED FOR, UH, MAILBOXES, COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE, PATIO, UH, BIKE RACKS, ALL OF THAT FUN STUFF AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, TRYING TO CREATE COMMUNITY WITH, WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE. 
          WE DID MAINTAIN A LITTLE BIT OF OPEN SPACE HERE THAT WE JUST, WE JUST REALLY COULDN'T DO MUCH WITH IT. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, AS BRUCE HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE SOME SURFACE PARKING ALONG THE MAIN ROAD HERE AND, AND ALONG BEN WAY EXTENDED. 
          BUT, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME SURFACE PARKING HERE, BUT AGAIN, UNDERNEATH OF EACH OF THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ARE DEDICATED PARKING SPACES AS WELL. 
          AND, AND THE, THE LONG RECTANGULAR SPACES YOU SEE ARE THE STORAGE UNITS FOR EACH OF THE UNITS. 
          SO AGAIN, THEY HAVE SOME PLACE TO STORE BIKES, UH, BOXES, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEIR, THEIR NEEDS ARE AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN AGAIN, ON BELOW US IS THE, UH, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE IS THEY'VE STARTED CONSTRUCTION NOW ON THE PROJECT BETWEEN US AND 89 A, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE, AT SOME POINT WE WERE, WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT IT JUST BECAME, UH, APPARENT THAT WE, WE WERE ON DIFFERENT TIME SCHEDULES. 
          SO THAT'S THE SITE PLAN IN GENERAL. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT THAT I'VE GONE INTO. 
          WE HAVE DUMPSTER LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED AS WELL, UH, SIDEWALKS, CROSSWALKS, UH, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN AT THIS POINT. 
          UH, THE SHADED AREAS ARE THE DESIGNATED LANDSCAPE AREAS. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A NUMBER OF REQUIRED PLANTINGS AND WE ARE EXCEEDING THAT BOTH FOR TREES AND FOR SHRUBS. 
          AGAIN, AS WE GO THROUGH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND MOVE FORWARD, THIS PLAN WILL MORPH AND CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE USING ALL NATIVE PLANT MATERIAL, UH, TRYING TO BE, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH THE SEDONA PLANT, UH, LANDSCAPE. 
          AND AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO IMPORT A LOT OF STUFF THAT EITHER ISN'T GONNA WORK WELL HERE, JUST DOESN'T BLEND WITH THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE. 
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SO THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW LOOKING FROM, UH, THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY ON GOODROW LANE. 
          AGAIN, WE HAVE THE, AND THESE ARE THE UPDATED RENDERINGS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS ONE OF, THIS IS THE FIRST APARTMENT BUILDING, THE SECOND ONE AND THE THIRD ONE BEHIND IT. 
          AND THEN THE TOWN HOMES ON THE PERIMETER. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU KIND OF GET A SENSE OF THE SLOPING OF THE GROUND AND, AND THE STAGGERING OF THE UNITS AS THEY GO UP THE SLOPE. 
          AND AGAIN, THE, YOU KNOW, THE ATTENTION TO THE DETAIL OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND WITH THE STONE ENHANCEMENTS, THE DIFFERENT USE OF COLORS MATERIALS. 
          AND I'LL LET BRUCE TALK ABOUT ARCHITECTURE 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT MY FORTE. 
          HE, HE WON'T LET ME TALK. 
          ARCHITECTURE , UH, LOOKING FROM BENNETT WAY, UM, THIS IS WHERE YOU TURN DOWN TO GO INTO THE WILD, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ARE UP THIS SIDE, SO IT CAN'T USE, JUST SEE SORT OF THE TOWN BACK OF THE TOWN HOMES, ONE APARTMENT BUILDING TOWN HOMES HERE, AND THIS WHITE SQUARE IN THE BACKGROUND, THAT'S THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF US. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WHETHER THE BUILDING ENTIRELY WOULD NEED TO COME OUT OR JUST A PORTION OF IT, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CITED, UH, IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE, THE ILLUSTRATIONS THAT WAS IMPORTANT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS WHAT DO YOU SEE FROM, FROM 89 A? AND SO WE TOOK A ROUGH STAB AT THE BUILDINGS THAT MAKE UP THE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF US, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE, UH, LIGHTER SQUARES ARE. 
          AND SO FROM, THEY PROVIDE A PRETTY GOOD BUFFER. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN JUST BARELY SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE FIRST APARTMENT BUILDING AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE TOWN HOMES ON THE SIDE. 
          SO AGAIN, VISUALLY WE'RE NOT IMPOSING UPON 89 A WITH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND, AND, AND USING THE COLORS TO HELP BLEND INTO THE BACKGROUND. 
          UH, THESE ARE JUST, UH, SOME BASIC ELEVATIONS OF THE APARTMENTS. 
          AGAIN, THE FRONT ELEVATION, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM BENNETT WAY EXTENDED. 
          UM, THIS ELEVATION IS WHERE YOU SEE THE UNDERGROUND PARKING STORAGE UNITS UNDERNEATH. 
          AND I, AND WE ADDED THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A STRAIGHT ON ELEVATION. 
          SO A DA UNIT IS ON THE LEFT SIDE ON THIS BUILDING. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE JUST STAGGER COLORS AND BRINGING IN NATURAL MATERIALS, UH, THE TOWN. 
          JUST A QUICK CORRECTION UNDER BUILDING PARKING, NOT UNDERGROUND PARKING. 
          UH, SORRY. 
          WELL, SOME OF IT FROM EXISTING GRADE MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNDERGROUND, BUT ANYWAY, UH, THESE ARE THE TOWN HOMES. 
          AGAIN, UH, BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASSING. 
          UH, THESE, THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE ROAD, UH, THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE FACING THE WILD. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED, THE, THE UPHILL U THE UNITS THAT ARE FACING THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION NORTH OF US, YOU WOULD ONLY SEE FROM THIS AREA ON UP AND AGAIN, MORE OF A STRAIGHT ON ELEVATION THERE. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE AERIAL OF OUR EXISTING SITE TODAY, THE CONTEXT OF OUR SITE PLAN AS IT MIXES IN WITH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND US. 
          AGAIN, JUST A NICE TRANSITION. 
          AND THIS IS OUR FI YOU KNOW, THIS AGAIN, THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN AND WE ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR US, BRUCE OR ANY OF OUR STAFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYBE ONE LAST COMMENT. 
          THE, UH, LITTLE ROAD THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THIS DISPLAY EXTENDING FROM, UH, THE BUILDING. 
          A DRIVE TO THE BUILDING BC DRIVE WAS A REQUEST BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO AVOID DEAD ENDS. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD NOT BE, UH, UH, IN USE EVERY DAY, BUT IT WOULD BE SOME PAVER TYPE PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE DRIVABLE FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, JUST WORKING WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT, THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR. 
          OTHERWISE, UH, ALL THE BUILDING RADI, OR I'M SORRY, UH, UH, TURNING RADIUSES AND WHATNOT WERE MET AND, UH, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY PLEASED WITH WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH TO THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CHARLOTTE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS MORE FOR STAFF, I THINK. 
          UM, CARRIE, CAN YOU TELL US, UM, LOOKING AT SHELBY VILLAS, WHAT THE HEIGHT VARIANCE WAS FOR THAT ONE THAT WAS APPROVED VERSUS THIS PROJECT? YEAH, THE VILLAS ON SHELBY, THEIR HEIGHT IS 40 FEET, UM, FROM THE LOWEST POINT 
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AT NATURAL GRADE. 
          THE, FOR THIS ONE, BUILDING A, WHICH IS THE ONE FOR THE SOUTH, SO IT'S THE ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS ASKING FOR 40.5 FEET, SO IT'D BE SIX INCHES TALLER FROM GRADE THAN VILLAS ON SHELBY. 
          UM, BUILDING B IS AT 40 FEET, AND THEN THE REST OF THEM ARE 36 AND A HALF, 35, 32, 26. 
          SO IT GOES DOWN. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, PART OF THIS LAND IS IN A FLOODPLAIN OR FLOOD WAY, I BELIEVE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? GO BACK TO YOUR BLACK AND WHITE SITE PLAN? YES. 
          OOPS. 
          CAN I SEE? SO THERE'S THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODLINE COMES THROUGH HERE AND THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ANY LIVING SPACE WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THAT ZONE. 
          SO IT'S FROM THIS LINE MOVING TO THE EAST. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST HAVE THE STORAGE UNITS. 
          SO THE ONLY HA YOU KNOW, THE ONLY HABITABLE LIVING SPACE IN THE APARTMENTS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE A HUNDRED YEAR. 
          AND THEN RIGHT THROUGH HERE IS THE 500 YEAR. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S THE, THOSE ARE THE TWO FLOODPLAIN LINES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS REVIEWED THIS SATISFACTORILY? YES, YES, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT RELATES EXACTLY TO THE PLAN ITSELF, BUT THE, UM, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN THAT'S A REQUIREMENT I THINK WAS PERHAPS SUBMITTED WELL, IT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE PACKET FOR P AND Z, CORRECT. 
          DUE TO TIMING AND HAVE, CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THE RESULTS OF THAT? WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT TO YOUR CITIZEN OUTREACH THAT YOU DID. 
          OH, . 
          SO WE, PRIOR TO THE, THE CITIZENS MEETING, WE WENT OUT AND HAD THE, UH, BUILDING FOOTPRINT STAKED, RAN SOME TAPE AROUND THE PERIMETERS AND, UM, I BELIEVE WE MET ON SITE AT AROUND FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          WE HAD, I BELIEVE JUST THE ONE NEIGHBOR THAT ATTENDED THAT. 
          UH, WE, WE SPOKE WITH HIM FOR PROBABLY A GOOD HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF, ANSWERED AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE COULD AND, AND, UM, AND I BELIEVE HE ALSO ATTENDED THE PLANNING MEETING THE FOLLOWING DAY. 
          SO, SO THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF OUR, OUR ONSITE MEETING WITH, WITH THE CITIZENS AND THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO HAPPEN. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, BRIAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR, ANY REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T SHARE THE BUILDING F AND G? UH, ELEVATIONS? I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE REAR ELEVATIONS FOR F AND G. 
          JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT HEIGHT LOOKS LIKE SINCE THAT'S THE SIDE FACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME BUILDING. 
          THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN F AND G WOULD BE FROM BEHIND THE BUILDING. 
          YOU WOULD NOT SEE THE LOWER LEVEL MM-HMM . 
          AS IT'S DUG INTO THE HILL. 
          SO WHAT IS THE MAX EXPOSED HEIGHT ON THE REAR ELEVATION ON EITHER EFFIGY? I'M GUESSING IT'S 16 TO 18 FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE WITHIN, UH, THE BOUNDS OF, IF THAT WAS A SINGLE FAMILY TWO STORY HOME AT THAT POINT. 
          YEAH, THE HEIGHT EXCEPTION IS FOR THE SIDE WITH THE GARAGES ON IT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UH, I THINK CHARLOTTE ASKED MY QUESTIONS ALREADY, SO I'M GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PETE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, I'M KERRY. 
          YOU HAD SAID, AND I THINK I GOT THE QUOTE RIGHT, THE POTENTIAL CONNECTION IN THE FUTURE OF, UH, BENNETT WAY, AND I KNOW THAT RIGHT. 
          THE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT THING. 
          AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT BACKENDS INTO THE CITY BUILDING THAT'S THERE, UM, AND LISTENING, READING THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED SO FAR, LOTS OF THE CONVERSATION IS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON RODEO AND TRAFFIC BUILDUP. 
          SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE THROUGHPUT OF BENNETT WAY IS KEY TO ITS SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT IF IT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE DIDN'T IN TERMS OF CONNECTIVITY AND TRAFFIC REDUCTION ON RODEO AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          SO WHAT IS OUR CURRENT THINKING ABOUT THE STATUS OF OUR BUILDING THAT'S AT THE END OF BENNETT WAY, AND SORT OF WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS FOR, UH, US TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S A, A CHANGE THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO MAKE OR NOT? I CAN SPEAK TO THAT MM-HMM . 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE PLANS CURRENTLY FOR ALTERING THAT BUILDING. 
          THAT'S THE BARN WE CALL IT, 
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ON THE MAINTENANCE YARD SITE. 
          UM, WE, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY USING PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE SPACE ON THE SITE. 
          IF WE WERE TO CONNECT A DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA, WE WOULD NEED TO RELOCATE, UH, A POLICE IMPOUND AREA AND BASICALLY TAKE OUT A PORTION OF THE SOUTH END OF THAT BARN BUILDING. 
          AM I SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE? OKAY. 
          YOU ARE, BUT YOUR MIC IS DOING WHAT IT DID LAST TIME. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL TRY TO PULL THAT CLOSER. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          DO I NEED TO REPEAT ALL OF THAT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A CURRENT PLAN FOR DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          DOES THAT HELP? I, I'M SURE THAT THAT HELPS. 
          WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO HAVE A CURRENT PLAN TO LOOK AT THAT? I, YEAH, I MEAN, IN OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM, WE WOULD NEED TO PROBABLY DO SOME LEVEL OF SPACE NEEDS FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE DIVISION. 
          UH, AND WE DO HAVE OPTIONS THERE. 
          I, I CAN'T SAY RIGHT NOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT, UM, WE HAVE SPACE THAT WE USE, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR OUR, OUR MAINTENANCE, UH, STORAGE OF MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL. 
          SO A SHIFTING OF SOME OF THAT, OR POTENTIALLY ALSO BUILDING A, UH, STORAGE STRUCTURE FOR SOME OF WHAT WE'RE STORING IN THAT BARN NOW MIGHT BE WHAT THAT COULD INCLUDE TO OFFSET THAT, THAT NEED FOR SPACE THERE. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE AN ASSESSMENT OF THAT AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, COUNSELOR FOR MAY. 
          CAN I GO INTO THAT A MINUTE? SURE. 
          UM, OH, OH YEAH. 
          1, 1, 1 MORE THING I SHOULD MENTION IS, UH, CONTRACTORS ROAD ITSELF CURRENTLY IS A PRIVATE ROAD. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ALTERATION TO THAT UPGRADE AND THAT SORT OF THING WOULD INCLUDE A PROCESS OF LIKELY THE CITY ACQUIRING THE ROAD SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON SHELBY DRIVE AS WELL. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY ASSESSMENT OR ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE AT THIS POINT. 
          AND THIS PROJECT WAS REVIEWED BASED ON THIS SITE PLAN, NOT BASED ON A CONNECTION, IT'S JUST A, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE PROJECTS, WE TRY TO IDENTIFY FUTURE POTENTIAL CONNECTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T PRO PRECLUDE THEM IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, WAS NOT REVIEWED ON THE CONDITION THAT THE CONNECTION BE MADE. 
          IT WAS REVIEWED THAT A CON, THAT IT WAS FINE AS A STANDALONE PROJECT AND A CONNECTION COULD BE MADE IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, YOU'RE DESCRIBING A MULTI-STEP, MULTI MULTI DOLLAR, UH, PROCESS FOR, FOR THAT KIND OF EXTENSION. 
          AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME IS FOR THE, DOES THIS PROJECT HAVE A NAME OTHER THAN GOODROW SOMETHING? I MEAN, DOES IT HAVE A NAME? WE'VE BEEN WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE THOUGHT OF A FEW NAMES, BUT, UH, WE'RE LEAVING THAT TO, UH, BASEL AND MIMI TO COME UP WITH A NAME. 
          AND WE, WE, WE'VE JUST KIND OF LEFT IT AS THE, THE GOODROW MULTI-HOUSING PROJECT. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME THAN THAT, BUT, UM, WHAT THE TIMEFRAME WOULD BE ON CONSTRUCTION OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPARE IT TO, UM, MAYBE A PARALLEL THING HAPPENING WITH THE, WITH THE ROAD SITUATION. 
          AGAIN, WE, WE'D HAVE TO DEFER TO THE OWNERS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, EXCUSE ME, ON DRAWINGS. 
          SO AS SOON AS WE COULD COMPLETE THE DRAWINGS, THEY WOULD BE SUBMITTED FOR PERMITS AND HOPEFULLY WE'D BE UNDER, UNDER CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME LATER THIS SUMMER. 
          IS THIS A TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION OR, I MEAN, HOW LONG DOES THIS TAKE? UM, AGAIN, I'D DEFER TO THE OWNER AND THE CONTRACTOR, BUT, UH, I WOULD THINK IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN TWO YEARS, POSSIBLY A LITTLE BIT LESS IF WE, UH, HIT IT ALL AT ONCE AND, AND NOT PHASE IT BUILDING BY BUILDING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          AND HAS PHASING BEEN PROPOSED? NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I TACK ONTO THE ROAD ISSUE? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WHAT IF, IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE PURSUED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO, BUT WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ABOUT A, A TRAFFIC FLOW, UM, ISSUE. 
          POTENTIAL ISSUE. 
          SO WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED THOUGH, IF TO ENSURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO THAT IDEA? I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF THIS PROCESS 
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TODAY IN, IF WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE THIS FOR THE FUTURE TO ENSURE THAT IT COULD BE PURSUED? SO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS THAT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE SET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THAT WE GET A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THE SITE. 
          AND SO WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T GET THAT UNTIL AT THE VERY END BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA OPEN UP A PUBLIC ACCESS TO A CONSTRUCTION SITE . 
          UM, SO ONCE, IF, IF THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD ONCE IT'S COMPLETE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC ACCESS FROM RODEO THROUGH THE EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY, AND THEN THE REST OF IT WOULD BE, UH, WHATEVER TIMEFRAME THE CITY COUNCIL IS ON, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. 
          IS THAT, DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AT ALL? YES, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY AS, AS WELL, JUST FROM MY OWN SELF HERE. 
          SO IF, IF THIS WAS APPROVED UNDER HOW YOU DESCRIBED IT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK. 
          WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN LOOK AT GETTING THE, UM, THE RIGHTS ON CONTRACTORS ROAD AND WOULD BE ABLE TO DESIGN SOMETHING TO CONNECT THROUGH. 
          AND THERE WOULD BE NO OBSTACLE TO THAT SHOULD WE WANT TO PURSUE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ROAD TOO. 
          ARE YOU GOING ? WHAT A POPULAR QUESTION. 
          SO, GOOD ROW IS PRIVATELY OWNED, RIGHT? NO. 
          GOOD ROW IS. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY CITY OWNED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, SO HAS BENNETT WAY AND THEN WHICH STREET WAS PRIVATELY OWNED? CONTRACTOR? YEAH. 
          CONTRACTOR ROAD? NO, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER STREET I THOUGHT. 
          SO GOODROW HAS ALWAYS BEEN PUBLIC. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHEN THE WILD, THE ROUGE AT THE TIME, UM, DID THEIR EXPANSION, WHICH IS THE REAR PART OF THEIR PROJECT, UM, THEY BUILT BENNETT WAY FOR THE CITY AND WHERE THEIR PARKING LOT WAS, WAS THE GOODROW LANE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO THAT PORTION, I GUESS, OF GOODROW LANE BECAME PRIVATE THROUGH. 
          SO THERE'S A PUBLIC, SO GOODROW LANE GOES FROM 89 A UP THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. 
          IT USED TO BE ALL PUBLIC. 
          WHEN WE GOT BENNETT WAY, WE GAVE THE HOTEL THAT PORTION OF GOODROW THAT WAS, IS ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY. 
          SO IT IS PRIVATE THROUGH THEIR PARKING LOT. 
          SO IT'S A WEIRD KIND OF COMBINATION OF THINGS THROUGH THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PEOPLE WOULD ENTER THROUGH GOODROW THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE THE, SO THIS PROPERTY, THERE, THIS PROJECT HAS A, UM, AN ENTRANCE OFF OF GOODROW BEFORE THE HOTEL PARKING LOT AND AN ENTRANCE OFF OF BENNETT ABOVE THE HOTEL GATE. 
          SO BOTH OF THE ENTRANCES THAT ARE PROPOSED ON THIS SITE PLAN ARE FROM PUBLIC ROADS. 
          BUT THE SECTION I GUESS, OF GOOD ROAD BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTRANCES IS PRIVATE AND THE SHARED USE PATH IS ON BENNETT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE FOR THIS ROAD? ? I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT QUESTION. 
          YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE UNITS. 
          I WAS CURIOUS, PERHAPS IT WAS IN THE PACKET, I DIDN'T IN, UH, SEE IT, UH, THE SINGLE BEDROOM UNITS ARE, HOW BIG, DO YOU HAVE THE UNIT SIZES SET IN THE BUILDING DESIGN SO FAR? WE DO. 
          AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M THINKING THAT, UH, ONE BEDROOM UNIT IS AROUND 560 SQUARE FEET, I BELIEVE A LITTLE UNDER 600. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE THREE BEDROOM UNITS KIND OF BEING MAYBE ORIENTED TOWARDS POTENTIAL FAMILIES, IF THEY WANTED TO GO THERE, I LISTENED TO A VERY INTERESTING PODCAST OVER THIS WEEKEND. 
          TONY WILL BE INTERESTED AS WELL, THAT I HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, AN URBAN DESIGN, MODERN DESIGN PLANNING, UH, CONCEPT THESE DAYS IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE BEDROOM UNITS FOR FAMILIES, ALL THE BEDROOMS DON'T NEED TO BE THE SAME SIZE. 
          WHEN, ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT THE CHILD BEDROOMS, THEY CAN BE QUITE A BIT SMALLER THAN THE MASTER KIND OF THINKING. 
          WHAT I, I'D LIKE TO ASK WHAT YOUR THINKING ABOUT THE LAYOUT OF THE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, ARE THEY GONNA LOOK LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S OF THIS MODERN DESIGN, OR ARE THEY GONNA BE THREE EQUAL SIZED BEDROOMS THAT MIGHT BE MORE AMENABLE TO OTHER USES? THEY ARE THE TOWNHOUSE UNITS, SO THEY WILL LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THE APARTMENTS, OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND THEN THERE'S DEFINITELY A MASTER SUITE, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, AND THEN TWO SMALLER BEDROOMS. I BELIEVE THE TWO SMALLER BEDROOMS ARE, UH, I THINK 10 BY 11. 
          AND THE MASTER, I BELIEVE IS, UH, 12 BY 16. 
          AND, AND TONY, WHEN I MENTIONED THAT SORT OF CONCEPT, IS THAT A CONCEPT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH AS WELL ABOUT HOW THESE YEP. 
          OKAY, WONDERFUL. 
          THAT'S MY QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHAT IS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE THREE BEDROOM? DO YOU KNOW? NO, 
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I'M SORRY. 
          I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE A FLOOR PLAN. 
          WELL, ON YOUR SUMMARY SHEET. 
          NO, WE, I'M SORRY, I I CAN GET THAT TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING. 
          THANK, I DON'T YOU OFFHAND THANK SORRY. 
          ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS, CHARLOTTE? SO JUST, JUST TO GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE ROW , AND JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. 
          SO WE DO NOT NEED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IF THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, EASEMENTS OR RIGHT TO A EASEMENT. 
          IT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WILL BE, UM, VERIFIED. 
          WE'LL GET EVERYTHING BEFORE WE ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE BUILDING. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S COVERED THERE. 
          SO IT'S ALREADY IN THERE, YOU'RE SAYING? SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND FOR SIZES, THE ONE BEDROOM IS 592, THE TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH IS 8 84. 
          THE TWO BEDROOM TWO BATH IS 960. 
          THE TWO BEDROOM TOWNHOUSE IS ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET. 
          AND THE THREE BEDROOM TOWNHOUSES IS 2200 SQUARE FEET. 
          THANK YOU, CARRIE. 
          THANK YOU, CARRIE. 
          THANK YOU CARRIE. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, MELISSA, THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ROADS A LOT. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY TRAFFIC STUDY OR IS A TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRED? UM, THE, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING RIGHT ONTO RODEO, WHICH HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY, OR YOU'RE GOING ONTO 89 A, WHICH ACTUALLY LEGALLY YOU COULD DO A LEFT TURN, WHICH I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND. 
          UM, OR YOU CAN ONLY GO TO THE RIGHT. 
          SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE IMPACTED? YES. 
          SO THEY DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT, UM, LOOKS LIKE AT MOST DURING THE PEAK HOUR. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, MORNING OR AFTERNOON COMMUTE TIMES, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE 20 TO 30 CARS MAX, MEANING ONE EVERY TWO MINUTES ON AVERAGE. 
          THAT IS FINE FOR RODEO. 
          UM, AND WE MAY RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL BUMP OUTS TO POTENTIALLY, UM, MAKE THAT GOOD ROW ENTRANCE ONE WAY IN, BUT MAYBE NOT OUT. 
          SO THEN WE CAN, UH, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE BENNETT AND GO TO THE LIGHT, UM, UPON EXIT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT ON AVERAGE HOW MANY CARS PER MINUTE KIND OF THING. 
          SO THAT BRINGS ME TO CARS AND ALLOTMENTS AND PARKING. 
          UM, YOU'VE GOT BOTH UNDER BUILDING PARKING AND, UM, BASICALLY STREET LEVEL PARKING FROM WHAT I CAN SEE ON THE DESIGN. 
          SO HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE WE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT FOR 51 UNITS, AND THEN WHAT IS REQUIRED? UM, I'M LOOKING AT CARRIE FOR, FOR THIS. 
          UH, SO, SO A COUPLE THINGS. 
          SO THE ONE BEDROOMS REQUIRE 1.25 PARKING SPACES. 
          THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS REQUIRE 1.75. 
          UM, WE SEPARATED THE TOWN HOMES FROM THE APARTMENTS AND PARKING CALCULATIONS BECAUSE THE TOWN HOMES ARE EACH PROVIDING TWO PRIVATE PARKING SPACES. 
          SO WE DIDN'T, SINCE THEY ONLY REQUIRE 1.75, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, EXTRA APARTMENT PARKING, BE IN THE TOWNHOUSE DRIVEWAYS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO WE, SO EACH OF THE TOWNHOUSES RE PROVIDE TWO PARKING SPACES, SO THEY MEET THEIR REQUIREMENT AND THEN THE APARTMENTS WERE LOOKED AT SEPARATELY BASED ON THOSE ALLOCATIONS. 
          BUT I BELIEVE THEIR, THEIR PLAN, AND THEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE UNDER BUILDING PARKING WOULD BE ASSIGNED PARKING TO BE ESSENTIALLY ONE SPACE PER UNIT AND THE REST WOULD BE OPEN PARKING. 
          UM, SO WE DID, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES ON OTHER PROJECTS WHERE PARKING IS SPECIFICALLY RESERVED VERSUS OPENED SOME OF THE, SOMETIMES THOSE NUMBERS DON'T WORK WHEN IT'S RESERVED. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, SO WE LOOKED AT IT, THE TOWNHOUSE AND APARTMENT SEPARATELY, AND THEN ASSIGNED VERSUS OPEN PARKING AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE TWO BEDROOM POSSIBLY BEING TWO PEOPLE, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TWO CARS. 
          UM, IF THEY ARE INDEED TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE. 
          UM, WHAT I, WHAT I WANT TO SORT OF POINT OUT AS MY CONCERN IS I DON'T WANT PARKING TO SORT OF SPILL OUT INTO THE WILDS PARKING. 
          I DON'T WANT IT TO SPILL OUT INTO ALCHEM EASTES PARKING, WHICH IS THE BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF, OF THIS PROJECT. 
          AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT TO SPILL UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, SO WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS THAT THIS WILL NEVER BE A PROBLEM. 
          HOW ARE YOU GONNA SORT OF MANAGE THIS? 'CAUSE OF COURSE, I'M 
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SKEPTICAL THAT WILL NEVER BE A PROBLEM. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT, UH, THE LOCATION OF THIS, WELL, FIRST OFF, WILD IS FENCED, SO PARKING ON THEIR PROPERTY ISN'T EVEN POSSIBLE. 
          UM, FROM THE GOODROW SIDE, THEY CAN GO IN OFF OF THE MAIN ENTRY, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO JUMP THE FENCE OR WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND THEIR PROPERTY TO GET TO THIS LOT. 
          UH, BUT THE LOCATION OF THIS LOT, UM, HOPEFULLY WILL N NEGATE THE NECESS NECESSITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A CAR THAT, UM, THINGS ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, GROCERY STORES, SCHOOLS, UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OF COURSE IS A, IS A POSSIBILITY. 
          SO, UM, WHILE WE CAN'T SAY THAT PEOPLE WON'T HAVE CARS, UH, IT'S A VERY LOGICAL POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD LIVE THERE AND NOT NEED A CAR. 
          YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY POSE IT THIS WAY. 
          THEIR CARS WILL JUST STAY STATIONARY AND THEY'RE ABLE TO WALK OR TO TAKE TRANSIT TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANNA GO, BUT THEY WILL HAVE CARS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS FAR, FAR AWAY, RIGHT. 
          IF HEALTHCARE COULD BE COTTONWOOD OR FLAGSTAFF, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN THE VILLAGE. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO, TO DRIVE BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF A TRANSIT SYSTEM, RIGHT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. 
          SO, UM, YES, CARRIE, THIS COMES UP WHEN WE HAVE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS. 
          YES. 
          UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE THAT'S BEEN BUILT PINON LOFTS. 
          UM, THEY'RE, AND I KNOW OVER THE YEARS THEY HAVE NEVER USED ALL OF THEIR REQUIRED PARKING. 
          THEY, AT ONE POINT, I HAVEN'T, I DON'T WANT TO QUOTE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAVEN'T ASKED RECENTLY, BUT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE SUNSET LEFTS PROJECT AND ASKING ABOUT WHAT THE, UM, PARKING DEMANDS AT PINON LOFTS WERE, THEY WERE ACTUALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED AND HAD LESS THAN ONE CAR PER UNIT REGISTERED WITH THE MANAGEMENT. 
          SO WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A, AN ISSUE, BUT IN ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT COME TO FRUITION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I HAVE, LET'S SEE, SEVEN CARDS. 
          IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO HASN'T PUT A CARD IN AND WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE GO OVER AT THE ENTRYWAY AND PUT A CARD IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE'LL START WITH BRIAN LILLY, FOLLOWED BY ANN EMERSON. 
          SO MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MY NAME IS BRIAN LILLY. 
          I'M A NINE YEAR FULL-TIME RESIDENT OF SEDONA, AND I OFFER MY STRONG SUPPORT OF THE GOOD ROAD WORKFORCE APARTMENT AND TOWNHOUSE TOWNHOUSE PROJECT. 
          SEDONAS TALKED FOR YEARS ABOUT THE NEED FOR REAL ATTAINABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, GOOD ROAD'S, EXACTLY THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT CAN HELP US MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE ACTION. 
          GOOD ROAD'S INTENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SEDONA. 
          THIS IS A WELL-BALANCED MIX OF UNIT SIZES THAT CAN SERVE SINGLE WORKERS, COUPLES, FAMILIES, AND PROFESSIONALS AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF THEIR CAREERS. 
          THE AMENITIES ARE DESIGNED FOR LONG-TERM RESIDENTS TO CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. 
          THE PROJECT DOES REQUEST THREE VARIANCES, A DENSITY VARIANCE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT ALLOWS US TO GET THE MEANINGFUL WORKFORCE HOUSING NUMBERS ON A SITE THAT IS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED BEHIND AN EXISTING HOTEL IN NEAR JOBS AND SERVICES. 
          IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT PROVIDING WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT APPROPRIATELY PLACED, WELL-DESIGNED DENSITY, A SMALL ENCROACHMENT ON A PROPERTY LINE. 
          THIS IS MINOR IN PHYSICAL IMPACT, BUT IMPORTANT IN MAKING THE SITE PLAN FUNCTION WELL. 
          AND THEN THE HEIGHT VARIANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SO THAT GARAGE PARKING CAN BE PLACED ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH TWO FLOORS OF LIVING SPACE ABOVE. 
          THIS PUTS CARS UNDERNEATH AND PRESERVES MORE USABLE OUTDOOR SPACE, LANDSCAPING AND QUALITY OF LIFE AT GROUND LEVEL, IT ALLOWS FOR MORE DENSITY WITHOUT SACRIFICING LIVABILITY OR OPEN SPACE. 
          I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS PROJECT REQUIRES NO PUBLIC FINANCING. 
          THIS IS A PRIVATE INVESTMENT THAT ADVANCES ONE OF SEDONAS MOST CRITICAL NEEDS. 
          THE PROJECT IS CONSCIOUSLY STRUCTURED TO SUPPORT A STABLE LOCAL WORKFORCE, NOT TRANSIENT VISITORS. 
          AND THE WAY THAT GOOD, GOOD ROW IS LAID OUT WITH A MIX OF UNIT SIZES, QUALITY CONSTRUCTION, AND GOOD AMENITIES MEANS IT CAN REMAIN VIABLE AND WELL MAINTAINED. 
          THIS LONG-TERM 
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VIABILITY PROTECTS BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, THERE ARE MANY BENEFITS. 
          IT HELPS LOCAL BUSINESSES ATTRACT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES WHO, WHO CAN ACTUALLY LIVE IN TOWN. 
          IT REDUCES LONG COMMUTES, WHICH IN TURN CAN REDUCE TRAFFIC, WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED. 
          IT PLACES HOUSING IN A LOGICAL LOCATION BEHIND AN EXISTING HOTEL, NEAR SERVICES AND JOBS. 
          IT DELIVERS WORKFORCE HOUSING WITHOUT ASKING THE CITY OR TAXPAYER FOR SUBSIDIES. 
          SO APPROVING THE REQUEST OF VARIANCE IS NOT SIMPLY A TECHNICAL DECISION. 
          IT'S A POLICY CHOICE THAT SAYS SEDONA IS WILLING TO SUPPORT WELL-DESIGNED, APPROPRIATE, LOCATED WORKFORCE HOUSING WHEN RESPONSIBLE LOCAL OWNERS STEP UP TO PROVIDE IT. 
          SO I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE THE NECESSARY VARIANCES FOR DENSITY IN THE MINOR ENCROACHMENT AND HEIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI, I'M ANNE EMERSON AND I'M A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF SEDONA. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY BRILLIANT PROJECT. 
          I LOVE ITS LOCATION. 
          I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COALITION HERE IN SEDONA FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MAJOR ISSUE. 
          AND WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO ALL THE WHO'S AND HAHAS ABOUT THAT. 
          WE ALL ARE WELL AWARE. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THE FACT THAT IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED. 
          AND AS A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF SEDONA, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND A LITTLE BIT MISSING HERE IS A COMMUNITY INTERFACE. 
          THERE'S NEVER REALLY BEEN A HEART OF SEDONA WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AND CONNECT. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS YOU CAN, YOU REALLY CREATE COMMUNITY IS THROUGH A CONNECTION BETWEEN LIVE, UM, RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL, UM, ENDEAVORS. 
          IF YOU CAN WALK TO A COFFEE SHOP, YOU CAN WALK TO A GROCERY STORE, THERE ARE GATHERING PLACES FOR LOCALS. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU CONNECT AND CREATE COMMUNITY IN MOST URBAN AND SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENTS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF WALKABILITY IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACE FOR CONNECTING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, MEETING YOUR FRIENDS. 
          AND THIS REALLY SERVES THAT PURPOSE BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS. 
          WALKING TO THE THEATER, WALKING TO THE GROCERY STORE, WALKING TO THE COFFEE SHOP. 
          I JUST SEE IT AS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOMETHING TO SEDONA THAT HAS BEEN LOST AND SOMETHING THAT HAS INTRINSICALLY BEEN MISSING IN THIS TOWN. 
          BECAUSE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY WITH, WITH PEOPLE IN, YOU KNOW, IN COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE IT'S, THAT'S CLOSE TO WHERE THEY LIVE. 
          IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST TO ME IS HOW YOU CONNECT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE, UM, THAT TO ME IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR, OUR, OUR CITY TO BE VITAL AND VIABLE AND HAVE A LEVEL OF DIVERSITY, AS MUCH DIVERSITY AS WE CAN HAVE HERE. 
          AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER, I, I WAS AT THE, UH, I WENT TO THE P AND Z MEETING AND I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING I ATTENDED, UH, TO, TO RELATIVE TO THIS PROJECT. 
          AND I'M, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED HOW THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN SO RESPONSIVE TO THE CONS TO CITY'S CONCERNS AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. 
          SO I REALLY AM IN FAVOR OF THE, NOT ONLY THE, THIS ZONE CHANGE, BUT APPROVING THE, UH, THE PERMIT TO GET THIS BUILDING UNDERWAY. 
          WE NEED IT. 
          AND THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ONCE, ONCE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REALLY GOING TO OPERATE SMOOTHLY. 
          SO FROM MY MOUTH OF GOD'S EAR, , THE NEXT CARD IS FROM NICHOLAS STRAUSS. 
          IS HE HERE? I UNDERSTAND HE LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE LEONARD WILLIS. 
          YES, I'M, UH, LEONARD, CALVIN WILLIS. 
          I GO BY CALVIN AS A LOT OF US GUYS THAT'S NAMED AFTER THEIR FATHERS HAVE. 
          UM, I'VE GONE BY CALVIN ALL MY LIFE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COULD YOU STATE YOUR, UH, I LIVE, I LIVE IN SEDONA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF RIGHT NOW. 
          WE, MY LOVELY WIFE OF 67 YEARS, AND I OWN THE PROPERTY, UH, JUST NORTH AND ADJACENT TO, 
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UH, THIS PROPERTY. 
          AND I AM OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE ZONING TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THE PROJECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL PUT OVER TWICE AS MANY HOUSES IN ONE SMALL AREA AS IT'S IN OUR WHOLE GOOD ROAD DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, WE PURCHASED OUR PROPERTY FROM THE GOOD ROAD BROTHERS. 
          THEY, UH, THEY SHOULD HAVE, THEY INTENDED TO HAVE THAT DRAINAGE AREA ALL DESIGNATED AS A BIRD SANCTUARY. 
          THAT WAS THEIR INTENT WHEN THEY WERE ALIVE. 
          BUT THEY PASSED AWAY BEFORE THEY DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT DENSITY BELONGS THERE. 
          UH, IT'S GOING TO ADD A LOT OF, A LOT MORE NOISE POLLUTION. 
          LIGHT POLLUTION. 
          HAS ANYBODY, WAS ANYBODY OUT LAST NIGHT DURING THE QUIET OF THE NIGHT AND LOOKED UP AT THE SKY? THAT'S THE SEDONA THAT I LOVE AND HAVE LIVED IN FOR A LOT OF YEARS. 
          UH, I THINK THIS WAS, THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT COMPLETELY. 
          UH, ONCE THAT DEVELOPMENT, IF IT GOES IN, IT'S GONNA CHANGE OUR, WHAT WE'VE KNOWN AND LIVED, UH, MOST OF OUR LIVES AS FAR AS GOOD ROAD LANE, GOOD ROAD ROAD. 
          IT, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRIVATE. 
          IT HAS NEVER BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, I WAS TOLD THAT THE REASON BEING, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP TO CITY REQUIREMENTS TO CITY CODE. 
          IT IS A VERY, UH, UNIQUE ROADWAY. 
          IT IS, IT DOESN'T HAVE, UH, STRAIGHT OR CURVED DESIGN EDGES. 
          IT'S VERY, UH, HAPHAZARD, UH, THE ROADWAY ITSELF. 
          AND THE CITY HAS NOT MAINTAINED IT AT ALL. 
          IT'S IN VERY POOR CONDITION, AND THE CITY HAS NEVER BEEN WILLING TO COME MAINTAIN IT. 
          UH, MY DRIVEWAY IS USED BY TRUCK DRIVERS AND DELIVERIES. 
          THEY HAVE, UH, ERODED THE EDGE OF IT AWAY AND, UH, DESTROYED THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. 
          THE CITY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'VE TOLD. 
          AND I'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. 
          I'VE BEEN, I BUILT THERE IN 1969. 
          THANK YOU, ANTHONY. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE I EARLIER, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WASN'T MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, AND, AND I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE HEADED, BUT MM-HMM . 
          IT KIND OF WENT A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          SO IF YOU GO BACK IN HISTORY BEFORE THE CITY INCOR INCORPORATED IN 1988, THE, THE COUNTY OWNED MANY OF OUR STREETS HERE AND, AND GOOD ROW WAS ONE OF THEM. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEED OF THE LAND OF GOOD ROW, IT IS SHOWN AS BEING OWNED BY THE CITY OF SEDONA THAT WAS TAKEN OVER FROM THE COUNTY WHEN THE CITY INCORPORATED, AT THE TIME THAT THE COUNTY OWNED, UH, THAT PARTICULAR STREET, JUST LIKE SOME OTHER STREETS WITHIN THE CITY, THE COUNTY TOOK THE POSITION THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T BUILT TO CURRENT STANDARD AT THAT TIME, WAY BACK THEN, THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT GOING TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD THE CITY TOOK ON THE ROAD DURING INCORPORATION WITH THAT SAME, SAME CONCEPT THAT UNTIL THE ROAD WERE BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT STANDARD, THE CITY WOULDN'T MAINTAIN THAT ROAD. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE REASON WHY THAT UPPER END OF GOOD ROW IS NOT WITHIN A SUBDIVISION. 
          SO AT THE TIME IT WAS DEVELOPED, IT WASN'T REQUIRED TO BE BUILT TO CURRENT STANDARDS, IT WAS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT SUBSTANDARD. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THAT POSITION WAS TAKEN BY THE COUNTY AND, AND ALSO, UH, TAKEN BY THE CITY DURING INCORPORATION. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN COMMENTS. 
          UH, THANK YOU ANDY. 
          WILLIAM MCDONALD, FOLLOWED BY DAVID KEY. 
          UH, I'M WILLIAM MCDONALD, UH, LIVE HERE IN SEDONA. 
          MOVED HERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          UM, I'M FOR THIS PROJECT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          UM, IN THE COMMUNITY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
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MY OWN DOCTOR IS LOOKING FOR, UH, A A PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT, BUT SHE CAN'T MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABILITY. 
          I LIKE THE PROJECT, I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AND HOW IT'S STRUCTURED. 
          AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT FOR, UH, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING YOUNG PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN TOWN HERE TO SEDONA. 
          SO I'M FOR THE PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILS, DAVID KEY, UH, COUNSELORS, I SHOULD SAY. 
          UM, DAVID KEY RESIDENT OF SEDONA. 
          UH, NOT HERE ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, THOUGH HERE REPRESENTING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY VIA MY ROLE AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER SEDONA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          UM, IF I COULD JUST FOR A MOMENT SUGGEST A PROJECT NAME, UH, NOT MY FIRST ROW. 
          DO , A LOT OF TALK OF ROADS HERE. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          Y'ALL ARE THINKING FORWARD. 
          AND THAT'S THE COUNCIL. 
          WE WANT TWO STEPS AHEAD, RIGHT? AND THAT GIVES VISION TO EVERYTHING WE LOOK AT IN THIS ROOM IS THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AHEAD. 
          SO, UM, SIR, I THINK THIS COUNCIL WOULD HONOR YOU AS A RESIDENT IN THE AREA, BUT NONE OF THEIR VOTES TODAY REFLECT THE DISREGARD FOR YOUR LIFE AND WELLBEING. 
          I THINK THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THE GREATER COMMUNITY. 
          AND I AM ONE OF THOSE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND I, AND I HOPE YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'LL BE MINDFUL AS THEY'VE BEEN IN THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT TO BUILD IT AND TO BE EXPEDIENT AND TO BE RESPECTFUL. 
          YOU KNOW, IN THE CHAMBER, WE'RE SEEKING A STRONGER ECONOMY, BUT WE'RE ALSO SEEKING A CONNECTED COMMUNITY. 
          AND I SEE THAT WITH BASEL AND MIMI. 
          I SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT YOUR FIRST RODEO. 
          YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY SITES LEFT TO DEVELOP IN SEDONA. 
          THIS ONE'S CLOSE TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, IT'S CLOSE TO EMPLOYMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO AROUND WORK AT ROVING CERAMICS, YOU COULD COME ACROSS THE STREET, WORK AT THE CHAMBER, YOU COULD GO WORK AT THE WILD, YOU CAN WALK TO SAFEWAY, YOU CAN FREQUENT THE AREAS AROUND. 
          AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE GREEN SPACE AND, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          A PLACE FOR PEOPLE, NOT A SPACE FOR PEOPLE. 
          THAT WAS SUCH A NICE TOUCH. 
          I I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, BECAUSE EVERY PROJECT SHOULD BE CONSCIOUSLY DEVELOPED IN SEDONA. 
          IT REFLECTS THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN, OUR MEMBERSHIP HAS TOLD US THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR THEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT WANNA LIVE HERE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I HEAR IT FROM NOT JUST OUR MEMBERS. 
          THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO, AND IT'S A SUPPLY PROBLEM. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A SUPPLY PROBLEM. 
          AND SO I, I APPRECIATE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MAKING EVERY EFFORT SUCCESSFULLY GETTING THESE PROJECTS THROUGH. 
          I THINK, UM, TO SEE THIS ONE COME TO LIFE QUICKLY, UM, IS MEANINGFUL. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING, YOU KNOW, DELIBERATE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT EASY ON THESE PROJECTS THAT COME FORTH. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE BEING DILIGENT. 
          AND, UM, JUST WANNA SAY FROM THE CHAMBER, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WE APPRECIATE ALL THE ENGINEERS, DEVELOPERS THAT GO INTO DOING THE HARD WORK, UH, THAT I'M VERY MUCH UNQUALIFIED TO DO. 
          UM, BUT IN, IN MY POSITION, I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON THE IMPORTANCE OF HOUSING SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR EMPLOYERS, FOR THE STRENGTH OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE STRENGTH OF OUR ECONOMY. 
          THANK YOU, JEFFREY. 
          FIRST FOLLOWED BY MARY QUEEN IN, HELLO, I'M JEFFREY FIRST. 
          UH, I LIVE HERE IN SEDONA AND I WORK AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS BRING IN HIGH QUALITY PROFESSIONAL TEACHERS, UH, INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO BUILD THIS HIGH SCHOOL TO A, A TOP-NOTCH HIGH SCHOOL THAT WE ALL WANT TO DO FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN AND THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND BRIAN SAID MOST EVERYTHING I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          SO, UH, , THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MARY. 
          FOLLOWED BY OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I AM MARY QUINN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. 
          AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR REVIEWING THIS PROJECT AND FOR THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING. 
          WE HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS ABOUT THE NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IN RATHER A SMALL 
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TYPE COMPLEX OF 51 UNITS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SERVE THE WORKFORCE HERE, UM, IN SEDONA, UM, AND HAVE SEDONA STEPPING UP TO DO THAT. 
          I WANNA BRING TO MIND SOME STATISTICS THAT COUNSELOR DUNN MENTIONED ONCE BEFORE, YOUR SERVICE PROVIDERS, YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS CANNOT LIVE HERE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT. 
          AND YOUR RESIDENTS NEED THEIR SERVICES. 
          AND I THINK OF THE TRAGEDY IF THERE'S A CRISIS AND PEOPLE AREN'T AVAILABLE AND NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND MIMI AND BASIL ON THE WORK THEY'RE DOING. 
          IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO FOR THE WORKFORCE OF SEDONA SINCE THEY'VE LIVED HERE. 
          ALL OF THEM ARE, ALL THEIR PROJECTS ARE FOR AROUND 115% A MI. 
          SO IT IS NOT LOW INCOME HOUSING, IT IS ACTUALLY WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          AND I BELIEVE IN COUNTING THIS, THEY HAVE PROBABLY, UM, REHABBED SOMETHING LIKE 50 DIFFERENT UNITS AND THEY ARE RENTING THEM TO THE WORKFORCE HERE AT A LEVEL THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT. 
          I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO STEP UP AND IMPLEMENT THE COMMITMENT THAT SEDONA HAS HAD FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TOM SCHWANINGER, FOLLOWED BY NATASHA KING. 
          GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS TOM SCHWANINGER. 
          I'M THE VERY PROUD SUPERINTENDENT OF SEDONA OAK CREEK SCHOOLS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. 
          EVENING, EXCUSE ME. 
          I AM HERE WEARING MY SUPERINTENDENT HAT, BUT ALSO THAT OF A PARENT, A NEIGHBOR, AND SOMEONE WHO HAS GROWN TO DEEPLY LOVE AND CARE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, A HEALTHY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM REQUIRES A HEALTHY COMMUNITY. 
          AND A HEALTHY COMMUNITY REQUIRES HEALTHY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 
          THE TWO ARE INSEPARABLE. 
          WITH THAT, I WANT TO SHARE SOME REALITIES OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE FACING. 
          WE RECENTLY SET OUT OUR ANNUAL, SENT OUT OUR ANNUAL INTENT TO RETURN SURVEY. 
          AND THE RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED WERE BOTH INSPIRING AND PAINFUL. 
          EVERY SINGLE TEACHER WANTS TO STAY EVERY SINGLE ONE. 
          AND MANY, YET MANY TOO MANY ALSO SHARED THAT RETURNING NEXT YEAR HINGES ON ONE THING ALONE, ACCESSIBLE HOUSING. 
          DESPITE THEIR COMMITMENT AND DESIRE TO KEEP MAKING, UH, A DIFFERENCE. 
          HERE IN SEDONA, WE ARE LIKELY TO LOSE OUTSTANDING EDUCATORS ONCE AGAIN. 
          AND NOT BY CHOICE, BUT BY CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          AND THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS. 
          THEY HOLD ADVANCED DEGREES. 
          THEY HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN AND SERVING THE PUBLIC GOOD. 
          THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR SHORTCUTS OR HANDOUTS. 
          THEY ARE PEOPLE WITH HOPES AND DREAMS OF RAISING FAMILIES IN THE VERY COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY LIVE. 
          AND YET MANY ARE BEING FORCED TO ABANDON THIS REALITY. 
          AND IF THIS, WERE NOT TO BE APPROVED, WHY? BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL ARGUMENTS OVER ROOF LINES AND SETBACKS AND LAND USE CLAUSES AND TRAFFIC. 
          I RESPECT THE DUE DILIGENCE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT REGULATIONS EXIST FOR IMPORTANT REASONS. 
          I DO. 
          BUT WHEN RULES BECOME BARRIERS TO SOLVING AN URGENT HUMAN PROBLEM, HUMAN, THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHETHER WE ARE STILL TRULY SERVING THE GREATER GOOD. 
          AND CANDIDLY, I DON'T SEE MANY OTHERS STEPPING FORWARD WITH REAL MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT TO SOLVING THIS HOUSING CRISIS. 
          AND THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT EDUCATORS. 
          THINK ABOUT THE FAMILIES WHO WORK IN OUR RESTAURANTS, OUR HOSPITALS, OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, AND PEOPLE WANT NOTHING EXTRAVAGANT, JUST A MODEST HOME. 
          A SAFE YARD. 
          A GREEN SPACE, A PLACE WHERE THEIR CHILDREN CAN RIDE BIKES, PLAY TAG, AND SHOOT HOOPS FROM WHERE I STAND. 
          IF WE FAIL TO ACT, THE CONSEQUENCE WILL NOT BE ABSTRACT. 
          IT WILL BE FELT IN THE VERY SOUL OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS THE LAST CARD I HAVE, SO IF EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK HAS ALREADY SPOKEN, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT IF YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO SPEAK, 
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HEARING EVERYBODY, ALL THE OTHER SPEAKERS, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD. 
          AH, THANK YOU NATASHA. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UH, SO MY NAME'S NATASHA KANE AND I LIVE ACTUALLY TWO HOUSES ABOVE THE PROPOSED, UM, BUILDING. 
          AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CALVIN. 
          IT'S GOING TO REALLY AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          BUT ON TOP OF THAT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALLOWING A MAJOR CHANGE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS WAS ALWAYS ZONED AS, AS, UH, RS 10, WHICH IS FOUR UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THEY WANT TO GO UP TO 20. 
          THAT'S A HUGE CHANGE. 
          I KNOW THAT IT'S KIND OF AT THE END AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE WORST PLACE FOR IT, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT WILL AFFECT US. 
          THAT'S OUR ONLY EXIT, BEN BENNETT FROM OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC. 
          SOUNDS A LOT MORE NEIGHBOR. 
          NOISE ISS A LOT MORE LIGHT. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT GREAT. 
          UM, I AGREE WE NEED MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED OVER THE TIME, UH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE, THEN IT WENT TO SEVEN IN EXCHANGE FOR HEIGHT VARIANCE. 
          THEN IT WENT TO, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND NOW WE'RE JUST HEARING TODAY THAT IT'S GONNA BE 50%. 
          IT SAYS IT'S 120% A MI, WHICH IF YOU WELL UP TO, BUT THAT'S NOT SET. 
          IT CAN ALL BE 120. 
          THAT MEANS AN EFFICIENCY CAN COST, UH, $1,902 A MONTH. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS. 
          MAYBE SOME OF YOU THINK THAT'S AFFORDABLE. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT IS. 
          UM, I HAVE A GOOD JOB. 
          I STILL DON'T THINK THAT IS. 
          UH, SO YEAH, THAT AND THEN THE, THE ISSUE OF THE 10 YEAR, OH, AND THEY ADDED A 10 YEAR TO THAT YOU GUYS SAID TODAY IT WOULD BE 10 YEARS ON THE AFFORDABILITY. 
          ORIGINALLY IT WAS MORE LIKE INDEFINITE. 
          IT NEVER HAD A AN END TO THAT. 
          UH, THEY ALSO HAVE A 10 YEAR SHORT-TERM RENTAL BAN. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS TRIED TO GET THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS UNDER CONTROL, BUT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO. 
          UM, WE EVEN HAVE, WHAT IS THAT? LIKE, UH, YOU GUYS ARE PAYING PEOPLE UP TO $10,000 TO NOT SHORT-TERM RENT. 
          PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING IT. 
          WHAT HAVE WE HAD LIKE THREE PEOPLE IN THE CITY EVEN EVEN INQUIRE ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S NOT ENOUGH. 
          IT'S EVERYTHING INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE TO BECOME A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. 
          IN 10 YEARS, THIS WILL BE 51 SHORT-TERM RENTALS NEXT DOOR TO ME. 
          IT WON'T, IT WON'T HELP THE COMMUNITY. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK. 
          I MEAN, I AGREE IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          THIS IS NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. 
          AND BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING SUCH A BIG CHANGE, YOU GUYS CAN ASK FOR MORE. 
          YOU GUYS CAN ASK TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN JUST GIVING THEM WHAT THEY WANT WITH NO LONG-TERM COMMITMENT FROM THEM. 
          OTHER DEVELOPMENTS HAVE 30 YEAR OR INDEFINITE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BANS. 
          I THINK AFFORDABILITY AND SHORT-TERM RENTAL BANS SHOULD BE MORE ON, YOU GUYS DIDN'T EVEN BRING IT UP. 
          SO IT SHOULD BE MORE ON YOUR RADAR. 
          IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'RE ASKING FOR IF THEY WANT THAT, LET'S GET THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU NATASHA. 
          TIM PERRY. 
          GOOD EVENING, COUNSELORS. 
          MY NAME IS TIM PERRY AND I LIVE IN SEDONA. 
          IN SPITE OF ALL THE FANCY WORDS THAT ARE BEING THROWN ABOUT TONIGHT, THIS IS A VERY POORLY DESIGNED PROJECT THAT WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE LONG RUN. 
          IT'S ESPECIALLY DISTURBING THAT SOME OF THE MAIN REASONS BEING PUT FORWARD TO JUSTIFY IT ARE, OH, WELL, WE NEED TO FACILITATE WAGE SLAVERY BY HAVING PEOPLE CLOSE TO JOBS AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE STATE INDOCTRINATION SYSTEM. 
          HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL SHOULD STILL APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED IT AND HIS RIGHTS MUST BE RESPECTED. 
          AND IN ORDER TO UPHOLD THE CONSISTENCY OF THE SOCIAL CONTRACT, THE OBJECTIONS I'VE HEARD BROUGHT FORWARD ALSO SHOULD BE CALLED OUT BECAUSE SO FAR IT SEEMS THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN ROOTED IN EXPRESSIONS OF SELF-INTEREST. 
          SINCE SELF-INTEREST IS A MORALLY IMPERMISSIBLE ACTION AND CANNOT BE USED TO JUSTIFY ANY KIND OF BEHAVIOR, BASING ARGUMENTS ON THAT BASIS INVALIDATES THEM AUTOMATICALLY. 
          THE COUNCIL SHOULD GRANT THIS ZONE CHANGE. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION THAT KEEPS COMING UP IN GENERAL WITH THIS TOPIC OF HOUSING IS THAT WE SOMEHOW NEED MORE AND MORE AND MORE OF IT. 
          WELL, I WILL REMIND YOU GUYS AGAIN AD NAUSEUM THAT WE COULD HAVE PLENTY OF HOUSING IF YOU WOULD LET US GO OUT AND BUILD OURSELVES SIMPLE, INEXPENSIVE HOUSES. 
          THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS. YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH TABOOS AND THEN YOU COMPLAIN OF THE PROBLEMS WITH WHICH TABOOS ALONE HAVE SADDLED YOU. 
          OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW WE'LL GET TO COMMENTS BY COUNSEL. 
          SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO START, CHARLOTTE? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, RESPOND TO WHAT NATASHA, HER COMMENT RECENTLY WE HAVE, UM, A PORTION OF THE AGENDA WHERE WE ASK QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN NOW WE HAVE A PORTION WHERE WE MAKE COMMENTS. 
          AND 
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BELIEVE ME, WE DO HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL LENGTH AND THE AFFORDABILITY LENGTH. 
          IN FACT, THAT'S REALLY, AS FAR AS COMMENTS GO, THAT'S MY BIG ONE. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, I I DON'T IN ANY WAY, LET ME, LET ME PUT IT THE POSITIVE. 
          I COME. 
          SO APPRECIATE WHAT THE MAYORS HAVE DONE FOR SEDONA, FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF SEDONA. 
          UM, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND UNGRATEFUL FOR THAT. 
          HOWEVER, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY YOU HAVE A GREAT INTEREST IN EDUCATION. 
          UM, THAT'S, YOU SERVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU HEAD A FOUNDATION FOR IT. 
          UM, I'M THINKING OF A, A FAMILY WITH A SMALL CHILD, SAY A 2-YEAR-OLD BEING ABLE TO FINISH K 12 IN A COUPLE OF YEARS OF PRESCHOOL IN A UNIT THAT'S AFFORDABLE AND THEY CAN PLAN FOR IT. 
          SO IF WE, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD PENCIL IT OUT TO MAKE THE SHORT TERM RENTALS BE, UH, AND THE AFFORDABILITY BE 15 YEARS, K 12, COUPLE OF PRESCHOOL. 
          UM, AS OPPOSED TO THE 10, THAT 10 YEARS COMES AND GOES VERY QUICKLY. 
          AND ANYTHING BEYOND THAT 15 TO 20 OR MORE, WE ARE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE MORE WITH OTHER, UM, DEVELOPERS. 
          BUT THIS IS PRIVATELY FUNDED OR WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE FUNDING. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME, UH, LEEWAY PERHAPS. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO APPEAL TO YOU TO MAKE THIS AS AFFORDABLE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU, MELISSA. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA BASICALLY JOIN, UH, CHARLOTTE IN WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY BECAUSE THE IDEA OF ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY OR OBTAINABILITY AND 10 YEARS GOES BY VERY QUICKLY. 
          UM, WHEN I REMEMBER THEY CAME BEFORE US TO ASK ABOUT VARIANCES, IT WAS FOREVER. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AT PNZ. 
          IT WAS MENTIONED THAT AT LIFE OF THE PROJECT, UM, AND NOW IT'S 10 YEARS. 
          AND IN 10 YEARS YOU COULD BE THERE WITH YOUR 6-YEAR-OLD OR YOUR 7-YEAR-OLD, AND YOU SUDDENLY HAVE NO HOUSING BECAUSE THE RATES HAVE GONE TO MARKET RATE. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD MARKET RATE. 
          SO I AGREE IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO EXTEND THE TIME FOR THE AFFORDABILITY TO TRULY MAKE THIS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AND NOT ONE FOR ONLY 10 YEARS, THEN UM, THAT'S MY BIG, THAT'S MY BIG HANG UP HERE, UM, AROUND THIS PROJECT IS IS THAT AFFORDABILITY. 
          AND BY THE WAY, I BELIEVE IF WE CAN'T GET LEGISLATURE TO FIX THE SHORT TERM RENTAL SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IN LESS THAN 10 YEARS, WE PROBABLY NEVER WILL. 
          SO THANK YOU BASIL. 
          MIMI, EITHER ONE OF YOU WANNA RESPOND ON THE AFFORDABILITY. 
          MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, THIS AFFORDABILITY ISSUE HAS BEEN OR AFFORDABLE. 
          THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUE AND AFFORDABILITY HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, I HAVE ALWAYS LIMITED MY AGREEMENT TO SHORT TERM RENTALS TO BE 10 YEARS. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL PREFACE IT BY SAYING THAT IT IS MY FIRM BELIEF THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THIS COMMUNITY, BOTH THE VILLAGE AND ALSO IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, HAS RUINED ALL RIGHT, MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT EXIST HERE. 
          AND IT ALSO HAS TAKEN A SEVERE IMPACT ON OUR EDUCATION, UH, FACILITIES HERE. 
          I DON'T TRY TO ARGUE WITH THE MANNER IN WHICH THE STATE OF ARIZONA, UH, FUNDS SCHOOLS, BUT THEY COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          MY WIFE, MIMI AND I HAVE, UM, 
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HAVE WORKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW TO TRY AND INCREASE THE STUDENT POPULATION IN ORDER TO GET MORE MONEY TO THE SCHOOL. 
          WE STARTED THE, UH, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM AT WEST SEDONA, WHICH, UM, ALLOWS WORKING PARENTS TO DROP THEIR KIDS OFF EARLY IN THE MORNING, ALLOWS 'EM TO GO TO WORK, ALLOWS 'EM TO CONTINUE BEING AT WORK, AND THEN AFTER THEIR WORK IS OVER, PICK UP THE KID. 
          AND THE KID HAS BEEN IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT THE ENTIRE TIME THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE FROM COTTONWOOD OR OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO WORK IN SEDONA TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR KIDS IN OUR SCHOOL. 
          AND IT HELPED US HELP THE WORKING COMMUNITY. 
          IT HELPED THE PARENTS. 
          AFTER THAT, WE REINVIGORATED, WELL WE ALSO STARTED A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN, UH, PUBLICITY CAMPAIGN TO, UM, OFFSET SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD, UH, AS TO WHAT WENT ON IN THE SCHOOLS. 
          UM, THAT WAS RELATIVELY SUCCESSFUL. 
          BUT WE THEN REJUVENATED THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION AND WERE ABLE TO SOLICIT SUBSTANTIAL DONATIONS. 
          AND I CAN REPORT NOW THAT THE ENDOWMENT, WHICH FUNDS MANY PROGRAMS NOW, FOOTBALL, THEATER, PRE-K, OTHER THINGS IS UP TO $15 MILLION. 
          ALRIGHT? AND THAT $15 MILLION WOULD SUPPLY ABOUT 800 AND THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR EXTRA TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          WHICH THE, UM, WHICH THE, UH, I'M FORGETTING THE, THE TERM NOW, THE, UM, SCHOOL BOARD, UH, AUTHORIZES, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT THE ENDOWMENT PICKING WHAT WE, WHAT WE DO. 
          WE HAVE TRIED THROUGH PURCHASING MANY HOMES AND MANY, UM, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ACTUALLY TO CREATE WORKFORCE HOUSING ON OUR OWN. 
          AND IT WAS KIND OF EASY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK ANYBODY'S PERMISSION. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ANY VARIANCES. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SIGN ANY DOCUMENTS OTHER THAN PAY FOR 'EM. 
          AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE OR THAT LIVE THERE, UM, SOME OF WHOM WERE IN THIS ROOM, UM, ARE ENJOYING RENTS THAT ARE BELOW MARKET. 
          ALRIGHT? THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE. 
          I WAS, I WAS, UH, QUOTED AT THE P AND Z COMMITTEE MEETING AS SAYING THAT IT WAS MY INTENT TO HAVE THE A MI NUMBERS BE FOR THE FOREVER. 
          I THINK I USED THE WORD AT FOREVER. 
          IT WAS THEN REPEATED TO ME IN A DRAFT OF A, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR 50 YEARS. 
          IT WAS NEVER MY INTENT TO COMMIT TO 50 YEARS OR FOREVER. 
          IT WAS OUR INTENT. 
          BUT APPARENTLY THERE'S A, UH, A LAW OR A REGULATION THAT SAYS IF YOU SAY SOMETHING HERE IN THIS MICROPHONE, UM, YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY IT. 
          SO I GAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY A CHOICE. 
          I SAID, I CAN'T LIVE WITH 50 YEARS. 
          UH, THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT. 
          SO I EITHER HAVE TO WITHDRAW THIS APPLICATION OR YOU HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE 50 YEARS. 
          WE THEN AGREED ON 10. 
          IT IS STILL MY INTENT THAT THESE PROJECTS WILL DO NOT HAVE ANY SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR THE ENTIRE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. 
          IT WILL ALSO NOT HAVE ANY, UM, ALSO IT WOULD BE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          AND WHAT I MEAN BY WORKFORCE, IF YOU'RE A WAITER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RENT THERE THAT YOU CAN AFFORD. 
          IF YOU'RE A YOUNG DOCTOR OR A YOUNG LAWYER AND YOU'RE MAKE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE IN OUR 120% NUMBERS. 
          YOU'RE GONNA BE IN MORE OF A MARKET RATE, BUT STILL BELOW MARKET RATE. 
          NOW, THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT I CAN WRITE DOWN AND THE REASON I CAN'T WRITE 'EM DOWN IS 'CAUSE I HAVE A BUSINESS SENSE. 
          ALRIGHT? I CAN'T PREDICT WHAT 10 YEARS IS LIKE. 
          ALRIGHT? I'VE HAD A BUSINESS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE COURSE OF THOSE 10 YEARS, ANY, ANY 10 YEARS, WE WERE EITHER ALMOST BANKRUPT OR FLUSH OF CASH, ALRIGHT? AND WORLD POLITICS, OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN OUR BUSINESS, IT WAS WORLD TRADE, UH, MEANT A LOT. 
          AND I COULDN'T CONTROL ANY OF 'EM. 
          I CAN'T CONTROL WHAT'S IN THIS ROOM. 
          10 YEARS FROM NOW, I WOULD GUESS THAT MAYBE ONLY ONE OR TWO OF YOU ARE STILL SITTING WHERE YOU'RE SITTING. 
          I DON'T 
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KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN 10 YEARS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ECONOMY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES THE CITY COUNCIL WILL AUTHORIZE BEING BUILT IN CULTURAL PARK. 
          I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THINGS. 
          BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS MY INTENT. 
          AND MY INTENT IS THIS IS WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR SEDONA, SEDONA. 
          PEOPLE THAT WORK IN SEDONA. 
          YOU CAN'T WORK IN COTTONWOOD AND LIVE HERE. 
          ALRIGHT? AT LEAST I THINK I'M, UH, I'M SEEKING THE ADVICE OF, OF, UH, HOUSING ATTORNEYS AS TO WHAT I ACTUALLY CAN LIMIT. 
          BUT, UH, IT IS OUR INTENT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE A JOB IN SEDONA, THE CITY OF SEDONA IN ORDER TO LIVE IN OUR GOOD ROAD PROJECT. 
          AND WE WILL ADJUST THE RENT TO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN AFFORD, ALRIGHT? REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR JOB IS. 
          SO THE AGREEMENT IS 50% OF THE UNITS, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT FOR 120% OF A MII CAN LIVE WITH THAT AND WE PROBABLY WILL LIVE WITH THAT FOR A LOT LONGER THAN 10 YEARS. 
          ALRIGHT? BUT I ALSO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT CAN MAINTAIN ITSELF. 
          THAT IT GENERATES ENOUGH REVENUE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE PLUMBING ISSUES, FIX THE ELECTRIC ISSUES, FIX THE GARDEN, DO THE LANDSCAPING, DO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER FOR THE BUILDING TO ACTUALLY LAST A LONG TIME. 
          AND SO I'M, I'M COMMITTED TO THAT. 
          AND SO IF 10 YEARS FROM NOW THE ECONOMY IS CHANGED AND I NEED TO INCREASE THE RENTS A LITTLE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY, I WILL DO THAT. 
          BUT IT WON'T BE IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAXIMIZE PROFIT. 
          IT WILL NOT BE AN ATTEMPT TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY, THE WAY THE, UH, PRIVATE MARKET WORKS. 
          THEY BUILD SOMETHING, THEY SELL IT, ALRIGHT, THEY DON'T WANNA RUN IT FOR A LONG TIME. 
          WE WANNA RUN THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. 
          WE WANT IT TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. 
          BUT I CANNOT COMMIT TO MORE THAN THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU PAIL. 
          IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? PETE? THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          YOU KNOW, I FIRST, UH, DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY POLITICS BY GETTING ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS. 
          I DIDN'T WANNA THINK ABOUT IT. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          UH, AND I CERTAINLY RAN FOR COUNCIL TO PLAY A ROLE IN CORRECTING, HOPING TO CORRECT A LONGSTANDING COMMUNITY ISSUE WE HAVE HERE IN SEDONA, WHICH HAS BEEN THE LACK OF DIVERSITY IN HOUSING TYPES. 
          I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THAT EVER SINCE. 
          AND I WAS VERY CLEAR IN MY CAMPAIGN ABOUT WHAT ONE OF MY PRIORITIES WERE, AND THAT WAS CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM. 
          AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EFFECT OF NOT HAVING A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES IS HAVING IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE'RE SEEING IT, UH, EVERY DAY. 
          SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS CERTAINLY PLAYING A BIG PART OF THAT. 
          I THINK THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS A EXCELLENT SITE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE A FINE PROJECT. 
          I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE OVER TIME AS YOU TALKED TO PEOPLE AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS SITE AND THE SEDONA CHARACTERISTICS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THOSE CHANGES. 
          AND MR. MAHER, I TOO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT 10 YEARS PREDICTING 10 YEARS AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          I, I, AND I DON'T KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW EITHER, AND THAT YOU WANNA BE A GOOD BUSINESS PERSON AND THINK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS SUSTAINABLE OVER THE LONG TERM AND YOU NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY. 
          UM, I I, I SHARE THAT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE PERFECT, THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD ON THIS PROJECT. 
          I, I THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD PROJECT. 
          IS IT A PERFECT PROJECT? NO, BECAUSE PERFECT FOR ME WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMITMENT TO TIME. 
          BUT I THINK WE, WE NEED TO TAKE THE ACTIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE AT ANY PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME TO CORRECT THIS ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN SEDONA. 
          AND SO I'M GONNA TRUST IN YOUR INTENTIONS, ESPECIALLY THAT THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE FROM THE PODIUM TODAY THAT ABOUT WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS OF THIS PROJECT REALLY ARE. 
          AND I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO COME HAUNT YOU IN SOME FUTURE DATE IF THOSE INTENTIONS CHANGE. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE MY PROMISE TO YOU, THAT YOU'D SEE ME KNOCKING ON YOUR DOORS 
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WHATEVER TIMEFRAME IT IS FROM TODAY, IF, IF THOSE INTENTIONS CHANGE. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THIS PROJECT. 
          NO PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN SEDONA, UH, IS EASY ANYMORE. 
          THERE'S NOT MANY MORE LOCATIONS WHERE WE CAN BUILD THINGS TO CORRECT THIS IMBALANCE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS TOWN. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. 
          YOU STOLE THE WORD HAUNT FROM ME. 
          I WAS GONNA USE THAT TOO, DEREK. 
          I TOO AM GONNA SUPPORT THE PROJECT. 
          UM, SEDONA DESPERATELY NEEDS WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          UH, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS ALMOST SHOVEL READY. 
          UM, THEY CAN BE MOVING FORWARD WHILE WE CONTINUE TO DEBATE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT THE WESTERN GATEWAY. 
          WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT THE DELLS? IT'S IN A GOOD CENTRAL LOCATION. 
          I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PICK UP REALITY. 
          PEOPLE WILL HAVE CARS WHETHER THEY USE THEM OR NOT, BUT PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THE GROCERY STORE, THEY CAN WALK TO THEIR JOBS, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT ISN'T A GOOD SPOT AS ANY IN THE CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S TALK OF PUTTING PEOPLE OUT AT THE DELL. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S ABOUT THE WORST PLACE WE COULD PUT SOMEBODY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY END UP THERE. 
          UM, THIS DEVELOPER, DEVELOPER HAS BROUGHT US A REAL PLAN. 
          THIS ISN'T LIKE OUR PREVIOUS PROJECT WHERE WE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW, WELL, LET US DO WHATEVER WE WANT AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE. 
          WE HAVE A A SOLID PLAN. 
          THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL IMPACT WOULD BE. 
          UM, THIS DEVELOPER HAS A RECORD OF SUPPORTING LOCAL HOUSING. 
          UM, FRANKLY, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO SEE A LONGER SHORT-TERM RENTAL RESTRICTION. 
          NOT BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOU, BUT BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT OWNERS MIGHT DO. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S YOUR PRESENT INTENTION TO HANG ONTO THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND I HOPE YOU DO. 
          UH, BUT IF YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE FUTURE OWNERS ON A LEASH, BUT I REALIZE THAT'S JUST NOT NOT GONNA HAPPEN HERE. 
          UM, THE DEVELOPER'S NOT ASKING FOR TAXPAYER MONEY, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS A BIG PLUS FOR ME. 
          WE'VE HAD OTHER DEALS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE MENTAL GYMNASTICS TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GONNA COST THE CITY? WHAT'S IT GONNA COST THE TAX INVESTORS, WHAT'S IT GONNA TA I MEAN, THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA PAY FOR THE PROPERTY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT LIFT A GOOD LOOK AT, UH, GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH MOUTH OF, AS THEY SAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MENTION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          UH, THE MARS HAVE DONE A LOT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THAT. 
          BUT, UM, I'VE ALSO BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM HERE, AND I HAVE SEEN TIME. 
          AND AGAIN, WE LOSE GOOD TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, OR WE GET TEACHERS WHO SAY, OKAY, WELL I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, BUT I'M GONNA GO LIVE IN COTTONWOOD, OR I'M GONNA GO LIVE IN CAMP VERDE. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL COMMUTE FOR A WHILE AND THEN ONE DAY THEY REALIZE, HEY, THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I LIVE. 
          WHY AM I COMMUTING TO SEDONA WHEN I CAN GET THE EXACT SAME PAY THERE TO DO THE EXACT SAME JOB? AND THEN THEY QUIT AND THEN WE'VE GOTTA LOOK TO REPLACE THEM. 
          YOU KNOW? AND I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN HERE AS LONG AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HERE, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN, UH, THE MARS. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT. 
          AND I'VE JUST, I'VE SEEN IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO PUT A STOP TO THAT. 
          SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. 
          KATHY. 
          UH, FIRST I ALSO WANT TO JUST STATE HOW I APPRECIATE THE RECORD OF COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE DEMONSTRATED. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I ALSO APPRECIATE THE, UH, ROOF LINE REDUCTION AND THE DESIGN CHANGES, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THEY ENHANCE CO UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECEPTION TO THAT. 
          I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR HOUSING. 
          UH, THIS IS A GREAT, UH, CONNECTOR BETWEEN, UH, FOR TRANSITION BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. 
          AND I DO THINK THAT THE PROJECT PROVIDES HOUSING DIVERSITY. 
          I AM CONCERNED, I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO SEE A COMMITMENT TO A FUTURE CONNECTION TO CONTRACTORS ROAD AS WE DISCUSSED. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WOULD REALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENHANCE THIS IN THE FUTURE FOR CONNECTIVITY. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION ALWAYS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE. 
          I THINK THAT THAT'S A WAY THAT COULD HELP PROVIDE, UM, ANOTHER INGRESS AND EGRESS. 
          AND I THINK THAT I REALLY WANNA SEE THAT PURSUED. 
          UM, I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED THOUGH AT THE REDUCED RESTRICTIONS AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALSO, UM, STATED. 
          I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY YES, WORDS THAT WE HEARD UP HERE WERE AFFORDABLE FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT AND THAT THAT WAS A COMMITMENT. 
          UM, SO IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT THAT'S NOT A PART OF IT. 
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BUT, UM, I ALSO DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S NOT A CITY CONTRIBUTION OF FUNDS HERE AND THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, AND I STILL DO FEEL THAT IT MEETS A CURRENT NEED FOR HOUSING. 
          AND AGAIN, HOUSING DI DIVERSITY, I LIKE THAT IT MIXES APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOME STYLES. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU GET REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS IS WHEN YOU MIX DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES AND YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND DIFFERENT FAMILY SIZES. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY GREAT DESIGN ELEMENT THAT I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IS IN THERE. 
          UM, I ALSO REALLY LIKE THAT THIS DESIGN HAS COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE FOR THAT, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE LIVING THERE AND THE PRESERVATION, THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S BEEN, UM, PUT INTO THIS AS WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DESIGN DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT GREEN SPACE I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD TRANSITION FROM RESIDENTIAL AREA TO COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          SO WITH THOSE COMMENTS, UM, AGAIN, EXPRESSING MY DISAPPOINTMENT AT THE, AT THE LACK OF RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ON IT, BECAUSE YOUR OWN WORDS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN 10 YEARS, NEITHER DO WE, WHICH IS WHY IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE PROTECTED. 
          BUT IN SPITE OF THAT, I HAVE TO COME DOWN IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE REASONS THAT I'VE STATED. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, I GET IT THAT ANYTIME THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A SENSE OF LOSS AND YOU WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT ARE THE NEW NEIGHBORS GOING TO BE LIKE? AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, OCCURRED TO ME IN LISTENING TO UM, UH, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WAS TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY APPRECIATING NATURE, DARK SKIES, ET CETERA. 
          AND ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS IT ONLY TAKES ONE BAD ACTOR TO RUIN DARK SKIES. 
          AND, UH, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'VE CERTAINLY RECEIVED MANY AN EMAIL FROM, UH, BAD ACTORS OR, OR THE AGGRIEVED OF, UH, BAD ACTORS WHERE JUST ONE PERSON LEAVING A OUTSIDE LIGHT ON ALL NIGHT, YOU KNOW, RUINS THAT DARK SKIES EXPERIENCE. 
          SO I, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT THE FACT THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO DEVELOP SHOULDN'T BE A CAUSE OF, OF FEAR THAT, THAT IF THERE IS A BAD ACTOR, GUESS WHAT? YOU CAN GO TO, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND, UH, FILE A COMPLAINT IF THERE'S A DARK SKIES VIOLATION. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          I WAS DOING THE MATH AND THERE COULD BE, BY MY CALCULATION, THERE COULD BE 56 BASED ON 20 PER ACRE. 
          AND THEN IF YOU ADD IN THE DIGA OVERRIDE, ESSENTIALLY IF THE DEVELOPER REALLY WANTED TO JAM IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF UNITS, THERE COULD BE FAR MORE THAN 51, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          MIGHT NOT BE PRACTICAL, BUT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE, YOU KNOW, IF THE ZONING IS GRANTED, IT WOULD BE COMPLIANT IN THAT REGARD. 
          SO I THINK IT IS, UM, RESPONSIBLE, UH, IN THAT FACT. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILOR KINSELLA SAID THAT THE VARIETY OF HOUSING STRUCTURES, UH, IS DESIRABLE AND AN ADVANTAGE. 
          THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD COMMENTED EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GEE, WHAT'S THE REAR ELEVATION HEIGHT ON F AND G BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEES, AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S LIKE 16 FEET AND THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT A TWO STORY HOUSE WOULD BE. 
          SO I THINK IT'S VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT REGARD, AND I APPRECIATE THAT FACT THAT THAT WAS THOUGHT THROUGH. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE WHEN WE SEE THE, UH, ELEVATION VIEW FROM 89 A WITH CHEA, YOU KNOW, LAYERED IN FRONT AND IT'S LIKE WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA KNOW IT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS VERY EFFECTIVE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, KUDOS ON THE DESIGN, UH, IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. 
          UM, JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF I HAD ANYTHING ELSE HERE. 
          THANK YOU OVERALL, ZEL AND MIMI FOR, UH, CONTINUING TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR FOLKS THAT NEED IT, INCLUDING FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN SO WE CAN GET MORE BUTTS IN SEATS IN SCHOOLS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, RIGHT? SO, UM, I'M HAPPILY GOING TO, UH, SUPPORT, UH, BOTH MOTIONS TONIGHT AND ALSO ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT COUNSELOR KINSELLA SAID. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DO THE STUDY ON COMPLETING, UH, BENNETT WAY THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, AND DO THE LEG WORK THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THAT. 
          SO I THINK I'M SEEING ENOUGH HEAD JUST NODDING THAT JUST GOT DIRECTION ON THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU BRIAN. 
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I, I TOO AM GONNA SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. 
          I, I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT A LOT. 
          I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE A SINGLE PERSON AND A FAMILY 2000 SQUARE FEET, UH, TOWNHOUSES WOULD BE VERY LUXURIOUS AND SPACIOUS FOR FAMILIES. 
          AND WE DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN. 
          UH, AND YOU KNOW, BASIL, YOU LOOK ME IN THE EYE AT ANOTHER MEETING AND YOU TOLD ME SOME THINGS. 
          I'M GONNA HOLD YOU TO THEM. 
          I'M GONNA TRUST YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED YOUR COMMITMENTS. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH SINCE I'M A FORMER ATTORNEY, I LIKE TO SEE THINGS IN WRITING, I'M GOING TO TRUST YOU AND I WILL HAUNT YOU TOO, , IF YOU DON'T LIVE UP TO THAT. 
          UH, I AM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO US TO LOOK AT GOODROW ALSO. 
          I KNOW CHARLOTTE, YOU HAD AN AGENDA ITEM FOR COUNTY, UH, ROADS THAT THE CITY TOOK OVER. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TO LOOK AT GOOD ROW BECAUSE THAT COULD HELP THE COMMUNITY, THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS ON GOOD ROW, POTENTIALLY, IF WE COULD GET THAT ROAD UP TO, YOU KNOW, A STANDARD. 
          AND IT WOULD BE ANOTHER ACCESS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THERE ON THE CITY'S DIME. 
          'CAUSE THAT IS OUR ROAD. 
          AND NOT PUT THAT ONTO, UH, THE OWNERS. 
          REMEMBER, THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND WITH THAT, ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? MAY AND COUNSEL BE BEFORE WE DO THAT, UH, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT, PUBLIC WORKS. 
          AND I HAVE JUST A FEW MINOR CHANGES TO CARRIE'S, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, UH, FOR THE BENNETT WAY. 
          CARRIE, DO YOU HAVE THAT TO SHOW? I DON'T HAVE IT TO SHOW 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY COMPUTER CONNECTED. 
          DO WE WANNA CONNECT IT? HAPPY TO RELINQUISH MY SEAT. 
          . 
          I I CAN READ IT TO YOU. 
          THE UPDATED LANGUAGE. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT? THIS IS FOR THE BENNETT WAY EXTENSION, THE LANGUAGE FOR THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT. 
          SO, OR CARRIE'S COMING OVER. 
          I'LL READ IT. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT IN WRITING TOO, AS SHE PLUGS IT IN. 
          UH, SO PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY ENGINEER, THAT'S ONE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL GRANT THE CITY A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT ALONG BENNETT WAY, EXTENSION DRIVE WITH A, WITH A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AND FUTURE ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT SHARED USE PATH FROM THE WEST PROPERTY LINE TO THE EAST PROPERTY LINE. 
          UM, SO IT WASN'T SPECIFIC ON THE FIVE FOOT, UH, SHARED USE PATH, UH, BEFORE EITHER HANUKAH HAD RAISED THAT ONE, UH, A LITTLE BIT AGO. 
          SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCEPTED? NO. 
          IT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. 
          YOU CAN IMPOSE IT. 
          UH, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS. 
          THEY, WE CAN PUT IT UP HERE IF YOU CAN. 
          CAN YOU ZOOM IN, CARRIE? OPEN IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T LIKE TO SURPRISE ANYBODY. 
          NO, NO. 
          LOOK, THE LAST MINUTE, THE ACCEPTANCE, THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, ACCEPTING BENNETT WAY EXTENSION WAS ALREADY IN THERE. 
          THIS IS THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE. 
          SO, AND I WAS JUST ADDED IN, IN THE RED THERE FOR PUBLIC USE AT THE END. 
          DO YOU NEED A MINUTE TO YEAH. 
          TO LOOK AT THIS AND THINK ABOUT IT? OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? OR ADDITION IS FOR PUBLIC USE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT, IT JUST WASN'T IN THERE THIS EXACT LANGUAGE IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 
          , DID YOU , IF I MAY, WE, WE, WE WERE AWARE OF THE 10 FOOT REQUIREMENT WE HAD PROPOSED ONLY PUTTING IN FIVE FEET BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I THINK THAT'S EN CAPTURED THERE. 
          SO IT'S THE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AND A FUTURE ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT SPACE. 
          YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN THE ADDITIONAL SHARED USE PATH. 
          AND WHO'S BUILDING THE SHARED USE PATH? UH, THE APPLICANT'S DOING A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AS PART OF THEIR PLAN. 
          UH, THE FUTURE FIVE FOOT SHARED USE PATH, I BELIEVE WOULD BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD IF, UH, AND WHEN BENNETT WEIGHS CONNECTED TO CONTRACTORS. 
          ARE WE READY? WELL, MAYOR, YOU WANTED IT IN WRITING. 
          HMM? YOU WANTED IT IN WRITING? MM-HMM . 
          WELL, I WANTED SOMETHING ELSE IN WRITING. 
           CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING. 
          YOU READY FOR A MOTION? YES. 
          WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS FINE. 
          YES. 
          . 
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BUT I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. 
          WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THERE IS UH, FINE. 
          WE AGREE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ARE WE READY FOR MOTION NOW? MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          YEP. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH ONE ONE REGARDING CASE NUMBER PZ 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 1. 
          ZC GOODROW HOUSING REZONING THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED HEREIN FROM ITS PRESENT DESIGNATION OF RSS 10, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO RM THREE, HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY BASED ON COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 
          THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS CONSISTENCY WITH THE SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. 
          GO SEDONA PATHWAYS PLAN, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL AS SPECIFIED IN LDC SECTIONS 8.3 AND 8.6. 
          AND SATISFACTION OF THE ZONE CHANGE FINDINGS AND APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE ACCOMPANYING EXHIBITS, WHICH STAFF REPORT AND EXHIBITS ARE HEREBY ADOPTED AS THE FINDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AS AMENDED. 
          AS AMENDED. 
          AS AMENDED. 
          CAN YOU SAY THAT 10 TIMES  AS AMENDED. 
          10 TIMES. 
          FIRST. 
           SECOND. 
          WHO SECONDED IT? ME. 
          DEREK. 
          DEREK. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? WE STILL HAVE TO DO ANOTHER MOTION. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BCT SEDONA FAMILY, LLC SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE'RE READY FOR A BREAK. 
          WE'LL BE BACK IN 20 MINUTES. 
          AGREE. 
          WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AND WE'RE MOVING 
          [9.c. AB 3321 Public Hearing/discussion/possible action regarding Arts’n’One: a  request for approval of a Minor Community Plan Amendment from Single Family  Medium Density (SFMD) to MU (Mixed Use) and Zone Change from SU (Special Use,  Obsolete Zoning District) to M1 (Mixed-Use Neighborhood) to allow for the expansion  of permitted uses on the property at 110 Oak Creek Boulevard. The property is ±0.31  acres and is located on the east side of Oak Creek Boulevard approximately 550 feet  south of W State Route 89A. APN: 408-26-039. Case Number: PZ25-00005 (Minor  CPA, ZC) Property Owner/Applicant: Kaiser-Herman Family Trust (Paul Kaiser and  Susan Herman)  ]
TO ITEM NINE C, AB 33 21 PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ARTS IN ONE, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY MEDIUM DE DENSITY TO MIXED USE AND ZONE CHANGE FROM SU SPECIAL USE OBSOLETE ZONING DISTRICT TO M1 MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF PERMITTED USES ON THE PROPERTY AT ONE 10 OAK CREEK BOULEVARD. 
          THE PROPERTY IS PLUS OR MINUS 0.31 ACRES AS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OAK CREEK BOULEVARD. 
          APPROXIMATELY 550 FEET SOUTH OF WEST STATE ROUTE 89 A A PN 4 0 8 DASH 26 DASH 0 3 9. 
          CASE NUMBER PZ 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 5. 
          MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT ZONE CHANGE PROPERTY OWNER APPLICANT KAISER HERMAN FAMILY TRUST, PAUL KAISER AND SUSAN HERMAN. 
          HI. 
          SO ALEX ORTEGA, ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT PLANNERS IS GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE. 
          PERFECT. 
          GOOD EVENING COUNSELORS AND MADAM MAYOR, IN CASE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FORMALLY MEET EACH OTHER. 
          JUST TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE MYSELF, AS CARRIE JUST SAID, I'M ALEX ORTEGA AND I'M ONE OF THE ASSISTANT PLANNERS WITH THE CITY. 
          WITH THAT OUT OF THE WAY, I'M GONNA PRESENT THE PROPOSED MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN, AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE FOR THE ARTS IN ONE PROJECT. 
          TO GO OVER THE SUMMARY, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT ONE 10 OAK CREEK BOULEVARD AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PAUL KAISER AND SUSAN HERMAN. 
          THE SITE IS ABOUT 0.3 ACRES IN THE CURRENT LAND USES ART STUDIOS. 
          THE APPLICANTS ARE SEEKING A MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT TO RE DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY TO MIXED JUICE. 
          THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A ZONE CHANGE FROM SPECIAL USE TO MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BROADLY EMPHASIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONE CHANGE. 
          THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT ASPECT WOULD ONLY CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS TO ESTABLISH A VISION FOR THE CITY AND THE FUTURE. 
          LAND USE MAP IS A TOOL TO IMPLEMENT THAT WITHOUT THE ZONE CHANGE, THE PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN IN THE SPECIAL USE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          AND BROADLY SPEAKING, THE PURPOSE OF A ZONE CHANGE ON THE OTHER HAND, WHICH MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN, IS TO CARRY OUT THOSE COMMUNITY GOALS OR VISIONS. 
          TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND, AT THE TIME OF THE PREVIOUS 2004 ZONE CHANGE, THE PROPERTY WAS ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND WAS OPERATING AS A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING JEWELRY CASTING BUSINESS. 
          THE USE WAS ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO CITY OWNED CORPORATION AND THE PREVIOUS ZONE CHANGE IMPLEMENTED STRICTER LIMITATIONS ON THIS USE REGARDING 
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THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          THOSE ON THE NORTH AND EAST ARE DESIGNATED AS MIXED JUICE IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          AND AS NOTED IN THE PREVIOUS 2004 STAFF REPORT THAT USES IN THE AREA HAVE EVOLVED FROM A TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEARBY USES INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO A WELDING SUPPLY STORE AND A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. 
          DURING THE 2004 ZONE CHANGE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS INDICATED TO BE ADJACENT TO THE GRASSHOPPER FLAT SPECIAL PLANNING AREA AREA, WHICH SOUGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A VARIETY OF USES NEAR THE SITE. 
          IN THE MOST RECENT COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE, THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREA WAS REDESIGNATED AS MIXED USE. 
          HERE'S A VICINITY MAP SHOWN IN THE SITE'S LOCATION, WHICH IS SOUTH OF 89 A. 
          AND HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PARCEL FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          AMENDMENT MINOR IS A CATEGORY BASED ON THE ZONE CHANGE REQUESTED AND DEFINITIONS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR BOTH MAJOR AND MINOR AMENDMENTS ARE THE SAME REGARDING THE ZONE CHANGE. 
          THE SPECIAL USE DISTRICT, WHICH IS NOW OBSOLETE UNDER THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, LIMITS THE TENANTS BASIS TO ARTS STUDIOS. 
          ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS LIMIT THE SALE OF ARTWORK ON THE PROPERTY AND LIMIT THE TYPE OF ART FORMS THAT ARE ALLOWED. 
          THE PROPOSED MIXED USE DISTRICT WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES AND COMMERCIAL USES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT TYPICALLY INCLUDE LIMITED RETAIL AND SERVICE. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD M1 DISTRICT IS THE LOWEST INTENSITY ZONE THAT ALLOWS LIMITED COMMERCIAL USES WHILE CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES AS WELL. 
          WITHIN THE M1 ZONE, THE EXISTING JEWELRY MANUFACTURING USE WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO REMAIN. 
          HERE IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN SHOWING THE SURROUNDING MIXED USE IN SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATIONS NEARBY. 
          AND HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING OTHER SPECIAL USE ZONES NEARBY ALONG WITH MULTIFAMILY ZONES AND OTHER MIXED USE DISTRICTS. 
          THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE PRO PRO, AH GOODNESS FOR THE PROPOSAL INCLUDED REFERENCES TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES SUCH AS THE COMMUNITY GOALS AND HOUSING GOALS. 
          OTHER ADOPTED PLANS THAT WERE REFERENCED INCLUDE THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN ALONG WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING THE APPROVAL CRITERIA. 
          THE FULL EVALUATION IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          HOWEVER, TO GO OVER SOME OF THE KEY POINTS OUTLINED IN LDC SECTION 8.3, THE PROPOSAL WAS EVALUATED TO ENSURE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR APPROVALS ALONG WITH THE LDC AND OTHER APPLICABLE REGULATIONS. 
          STAFF'S REVIEW ALSO SOUGHT TO ENSURE THE PROJECT MINIMIZES IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND MINIMIZES ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL AND FISCAL IMPACTS. 
          REGARDING PUBLIC INPUT, THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED PUBLIC OUTREACH AND THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET MATERIALS. 
          STAFF COMPLETED THE PUBLIC NOTICING, WHICH INCLUDED BUT WAS NOT LIMITED TO POSTING THE PROJECT DOCUMENTS ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAGE AND POSTING THE PROPERTY. 
          AS OF TODAY, STAFFERS RECEIVED TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS IN TOTAL. 
          ONE IS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PACKING MATERIALS AND THE OTHER WAS RECEIVED YESTERDAY. 
          WE HAVE COPIES OF THOSE ONES FOR HERE AT YOUR REQUEST, ALBEIT COPIES WITH VERY SMALL TEXTS. 
          BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, ONE COMMENT HAD CONCERNS REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE INCLUDED A DRAFT DEED RESTRICTION IN THEIR SUBMITTAL. 
          THE RECENT COMMENT WE RECEIVED WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE MIXED USE ZONING DESIGNATION ON THIS SITE. 
          AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORTS, STAFF BELIEVES THE APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL FOR THE MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE. 
          AS A RESULT, STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND OUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE IN THE PACKET. 
          DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON JANUARY 6TH, THE COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION INCLUDED TOPICS SUCH AS THE DURATION OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PROHIBITION AND THE NEED FOR CONDITIONING PERMIT IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THE COMMISSION, YEAH, GOOD. 
          THE COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ARE BOTH THE MINOR COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONE CHANGE. 
          THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OR THE PROPOSAL. 
          SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE OWNERS ARE ALSO HERE AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A FEW THINGS THEY MIGHT WANNA SAY. 
          HELLO, MADAM MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS PAUL KAISER, UM, OF ONE 10 OAK CREEK BOULEVARD, UM, RESIDENT AT 91 NEW CASTLE LANE SEDONA. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED 25 YEARS AGO OR LONGER WHEN I WENT TO COUNCIL TO GET OUR ZONE CHANGE FROM NON-CONFORMING USE OF A BRONZE CASTING FOUNDRY, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH IMPACT ON A RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          AT THAT TIME WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH JOHN O'BRIEN AND ROGER EASTMAN, THE SUGGESTION WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WE COULD YOU DO OUR JEWELRY CASTING BUSINESS OUT OF IT BECAUSE IT CONFORM WITH THE USE OF THE LOST WAX BRONZE CASTING BUSINESS THAT WAS GOING ON. 
          AND THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT MAYBE WE COULD PUT OUR LOST WAX CASTING BUSINESS IN THERE, WHICH CONFORMED TO THE UNCONDITIONAL NON-CON UNCONDITIONAL USE, NON-CONFORMING USE AND POSSIBLY PUT APARTMENTS IN THE BUILDING. 
          PUT THE MU DESIGNATION DID NOT EXIST YET. 
          NOW THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE, WE ARE 
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APPLYING FOR THE M1 SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO LIGHT COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OUT OF THE BUILDING, UM, THAT CONFIRM CONFORMS TO WHAT WOULD WORK WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND POSSIBLY MAKE, UM, SOME SMALL APARTMENT RESIDENTS OUT OF THE SAME BUILDING POTENTIALLY. 
          UM, IF WE HAD EMPLOYEES THAT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR, WE COULD CONVERT THE BUILDING. 
          WHEN WE DID A ZONE CHANGE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          WE TOOK A DILAPIDATED AT OLD BROWN CINDER BLOCK BUILDING AND BROUGHT IT UP TO THE DESIGN CODE OF SEDONA. 
          UM, OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE BUILDING, EXTERIOR AND PARKING IS AVAILABLE THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR A CONTINUED OF, UM, THE PROPERTY WITHOUT ANY IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          ANY CHANGES WOULD BE VERY SIMPLE AS WE COULD PROVIDE FOUR LIVING SPACES OR A NON-INVASIVE COMMERCIAL USE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS IN THE SAME BUILDING BY SIMPLY JUST CHANGING SOME INTERIOR WALLS. 
          ALL THE SPACES ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN ACCESS, ELECTRIC METERS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, I'M KIND OF RIDING ON THE COATTAILS OF THE LAST PROJECT, WHICH IS MUCH BIGGER THAN MINE. 
          SO MINE SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE AND I'VE KIND OF GONE OFF SCRIPT FROM WHAT I WANTED TO SAY BECAUSE THEY PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING THAT I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          NOW, THE ONLY THING THAT ANYBODY'S OBJECTED TO IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING. 
          I BELIEVE IN OUR, UM, COMMITMENT, IT'S, UM, AT LEAST 50 YEARS OR LONGER THAT ANYBODY CAN USE IT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          SO THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE. 
          UM, MYSELF AND MY PARTNER SUSAN, UM, REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA. 
          I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST OF OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE HAD, UM, PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SEEN THEM. 
          UM, WE GOT A UNANIMOUS DECISION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          AND SO JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING LIGHT AND SHORT, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THE STAFF EVALUATIONS. 
          UM, OUR PROPOSAL DOES NOT CONTRADICT ANY GOALS OR POLICY OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN. 
          AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE CAN MOVE TO, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS SO WE CAN MOVE TO COMMENTS. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          YOU READY FOR A MOTION COMMENT? IS IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING TO FOLLOW A LARGE PROJECT. 
          ? YEAH, YOU WORE ME DOWN MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026 DASH FOUR SORRY, FOUR FOUR. 
          REGARDING CASE NUMBER PZ 25 DASH 0 0 0 5 MINOR CPA AMENDING THE SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY REDESIGNATING, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MELISSA. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OPPOSED? LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER VOTE? CONGRATULATIONS. 
          WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO GO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH TWO TWO REGARDING CASE NUMBER PZ 25 DASH 0 0 0 5 ZONE CHANGE ARTS IN ONE REZONING, THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED HEREIN FROM ITS PRESENT DESIGNATION OF SPECIAL USE TO MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD UPON COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND BASED ON COMPLIANCE WITH ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, CONSISTENCY WITH THE SEDONA COMMUNITY PLAN, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, GO SEDONA PATHWAYS PLAN, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL AS SPECIFIED IN LDC SECTIONS 8.3 AND 8.6 AND SATISFACTION OF THE ZONE CHANGE FINDINGS AND APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ACCOMPANYING EXHIBITS WHICH STAFF REPORT AND EXHIBITS ARE HEREBY ADOPTED AS THE FINDINGS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
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SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED THOUGH? CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. 
          THE SHORTEST MEET ITEM ON OUR AGENDA WITH THE LONGEST RESOLUTION . 
          OKAY, AMBER, SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          OH, ITEM 
          [9.d. AB 3319 Discussion/possible action to authorize the City Manager to submit an  application to the Arizona Department of Transportation (ADOT) for FY 2026 Federal  Transit Administration (FTA) Section 5311 Formula Grant funding for transit operating,  administrative, and capital projects for FY 2027 and FY 2028. ]
D AB 33 19 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR FY 2026, FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION, SECTION 53 11 FORMULA GRANT FUNDING FOR TRANSIT, OPERATING ADMINISTRATIVE, AND CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR FY 2027 AND FY 2028. 
          I NEED TO RAISE THE SEAT UP HERE. 
          SO NICE TO SEE YOU, AMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS HOPING MINE WOULD BE THE SHORTER ONE. 
          NO, I'M KIDDING. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNSELORS. 
          THIS AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A ROUTINE TWO YEAR FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION SECTION 53 11 GRANT APPLICATION TO ADOT, ARIZONA DOT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027 AND FISCAL YEAR 2028. 
          THIS ITEM ALLOWS THE CITY TO COMPETE FOR FEDERAL TRANSIT FUNDING FOR RURAL PROGRAMS AND DOES NOT APPROVE ANY NEW OR EXPANDED TRANSIT SERVICES. 
          AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A TWO YEAR FTA SECTION 53 11 GRANT, WHICH IS RURAL FUNDING FORMULA THAT THE STATE RECEIVES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR 27 AND FISCAL YEAR 28, AND WE CURRENTLY ARE A SUB-RECIPIENT RECEIVING THESE FUNDS. 
          IT'S A TWO YEAR GRANT CYCLE. 
          THE FUNDING SUPPORTS EXISTING TRANSIT OPERATIONS ADMINISTRATION AND FLEET INVESTMENTS. 
          STAFF IS PROACTIVELY, UH, PRESERVING FUNDING OPTIONS AND, UH, APPLIED FOR A POTENTIAL UPTOWN CIRCULATOR WITH THESE FUNDS IN THE OPERATING FUNDS. 
          BUT THIS ACTION DOES NOT APPROVE ANY NEW OR EXPANDED TRANSIT SERVICES. 
          AND THAT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL IF THE FUNDING WOULD BE AWARDED. 
          THE UPTOWN CIRCULATOR FEASIBILITY STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS WILL RETURN TO COUNCIL IN MARCH. 
          I'LL START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THIS FUNDING PROGRAM AND HOW IT FITS INTO SEDONAS TRANSIT FUNDING. 
          SECTION 53 11 IS A TRANSIT, UH, FEDERAL TRANSIT FORMULA FUNDING PROGRAM FOR RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT AZ RECEIVES ANNUALLY, UH, THROUGH THE ADOT. 
          WE'RE A SUBRECIPIENT. 
          IT'S ADMINISTERED BY ARIZONA DOT ON A TWO YEAR CYCLE. 
          THIS IS A ROUTINE APPLICATION FOR US. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE RECEIVED THE FUNDING, UH, THE LAST PAST FEW YEARS, ACTUALLY MANY YEARS. 
          IN FACT, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 14 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE STATEWIDE EACH YEAR FOR THE FUNDING. 
          AND THE PROGRAM FOCUSES ON PRESERVING EXISTING SERVICES, MAINTAINING ACCESSIBILITY, AND ENSURING SYSTEM RELIABILITY. 
          I'LL WALK THROUGH THE OVERALL FUNDING REQUEST INCLUDED IN THE TWO YEAR APPLICATION. 
          THE TOTAL TWO YEAR REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027 AND 2028 IS 3,619,892 MILLION. 
          THIS INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 2,455,000 IN FEDERAL FUNDING AND 1,164,000 MILLION IN LOCAL MATCH. 
          THE APPLICATION COVERS OPERATING ADMINISTRATIVE AND CAPITAL FUNDING CATEGORIES. 
          ALL FUNDING REMAINS SUBJECT TO GRANT, AWARD AND ANNUAL COUNCIL BUDGET APPROPRIATION. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE BREAKS DOWN THAT TOTAL BY FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, TO ILLUSTRATE HOW THE REQUEST IS PHASED IN FISCAL YEAR 27, THE TOTAL REQUEST IS APPROXIMATELY 1.76 MILLION. 
          AND IN FISCAL YEAR 2028, THE TOTAL REQUEST IS APPROXIMATELY 1.86 MILLION. 
          FEDERAL AND LOCAL MATCH AMOUNTS ARE SHOWN FOR EACH YEAR. 
          ANY FEDERAL FUNDING WOULD HELP OFFSET OUR LOCAL EXPENSES ON CONNECT. 
          AND FOR OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT OF OUR FLEET FUNDING WOULD BE MANAGED AND BUDGETED YEAR BY YEAR. 
          CONSISTENT WITH ARIZONA DOT REQUIREMENTS. 
          I'LL SUMMARIZE HOW THESE FUNDS WOULD BE USED IF AWARDED THE OPERATING FUNDS WITH 
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THIS FUNDING WOULD SUPPORT OUR EXISTING TRANSIT SERVICES, INCLUDING SEDONA SHUTTLE CONNECT. 
          THE APPLICATION ALSO PROVIDES US AN OPERATING FUNDING OPTION FOR A POTENTIAL UPTOWN CIRCULATOR SUBJECT TO COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDS SUPPORT GRANT COMPLIANCE REPORTING AND PROGRAM OVERSIGHT. 
          AND THE CAPITAL FUNDS ARE FOR A DA ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES THAT IMPROVE OUR FLEET RELIABILITY AND BACKUP CAPACITY VEHICLES MAY SUPPORT OUR EXISTING SERVICES OR FUTURE COUNSEL APPROVED SERVICES. 
          I'M GONNA CLOSE WITH A FEW KEY POINTS FOR THIS ACTION ITEM TODAY. 
          AND THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TONIGHT AUTHORIZES THE SUBMISSION OF A ROUTINE FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION, INCLUDING THE PROVISION OF A LOCAL MATCH FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 AND FISCAL YEAR 28. 
          IT HELPS MAINTAIN OUR RELIABLE TRANSIT SERVICE IN A SAFE, ACCESSIBLE FLEET. 
          IT POSSIBLY PROVIDES FUTURE FUNDING OPTIONS WITHOUT COMMITTING THE CITY TO NEW SERVICES. 
          IT WOULD COME BACK IF AWARDED AND ANY UPTOWN CIRCULATOR OR SERVICE EXPANSION WOULD REQUIRE SEPARATE COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          AND A CIRCULATOR HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, IN OUR PARKING WORK GROUP TO SUPPORT EMPLOYEE ACCESS AS PART OF A BROADER UPTOWN PARKING STRATEGY. 
          UH, BUT THAT WILL WILL BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU IN MARCH, UH, WITH THE RESULTS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE CIRCULATOR. 
          THIS APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TODAY WILL ALLOWS US TO COMPETE FOR OUR FEDERAL FUNDING ON A ROUTINE BASIS WHILE ENSURING COUNCIL RETAINS FULL CONTROL OVER OUR FUTURE SERVICE DECISIONS. 
          WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PETE? THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANKS AMBER. 
          UH, JUST, UH, ONE QUESTION HERE. 
          I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 88 IN OUR PACKET, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR FISCAL YEAR 28, 2 YEAR CAPITAL REQUEST. 
          YES. 
          AND IN THERE, I THINK MAYBE IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE MORE DETAIL THAN YOU SAID IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT YOU SAID FOR THREE 80 DA BUSES TO REPLACE EXISTING VEHICLES THAT REACH THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE. 
          HOW DO WE DEFINE USEFUL LIFE? UH, USEFUL LIFE WITH THE TYPE OF VEHICLES WE HAVE IS 200,000 MILES OR SEVEN YEARS. 
          IS THERE A, A FA ARE WE LOOKING AT WHEN THE MAINTENANCE COSTS START TO GET OUT OF? YEAH, USUALLY, USUALLY AFTER THAT, THAT THRESHOLD IS MET. 
          YOU DO SEE THE COST PER MILE FOR MAINTENANCE INCREASE AND THEY'RE JUST, IT'S IMPACT SERVICE RELIABILITY. 
          SO THAT IS A STANDARD WITHIN THE INDUSTRY FOR THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 125 AND 135,000 ON THE FLEET. 
          WE DO ABOUT THIR 25 TO 30,000 MILES A YEAR ON A VEHICLE A MONTH. 
          UH, ACTUALLY A YEAR, ACTUALLY IT'S ABOUT 40,000 A YEAR PER VEHICLE. 
          WE'VE HAD THESE FOR, WHEN DID WE BUY THESE VEHICLES? THEY WERE PURCHASED IN 23. 
          WE HAVE FIVE OF THEM. 
          THERE'S ONE THAT WE, WE, WE ROTATE THROUGHOUT. 
          SO WE TRY TO SPREAD THE MILES EQUALLY, UH, WITH ONE SPARE. 
          AND HOW ARE WE DOING ON THE PROJECTED PURCHASE PRICE OF VEHICLES COMPARED TO WHAT WE PAID FOR 'EM THE FIRST TIME AROUND? THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY CHEAPER. 
          . 
          YEAH, . 
          BIG OF INFLATION FACTOR. 
          HAS THERE BEEN IN THIS TIME? UH, I DON'T RECALL WHAT THE PRICE WAS WHEN THESE WERE PURCHASED IN 22, OR ACTUALLY IT WAS PROBABLY 2021 WHEN YOU PURCHASED THEM. 
          'CAUSE THEY USUALLY TAKE A YEAR TO A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHILE, YEAH. 
          RIGHT NOW, UH, ON THESE VEHICLES, IT'S ABOUT, LET'S SEE, ABOUT 289,000 PER VEHICLE TO REPLACE. 
          AND DO WE RECALL WHAT WE PAID FOR THE INITIAL ONES? I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          THE, THE LOW FLOOR, THE, THE CONNECT VEHICLES ARE A MORE EXPENSIVE VEHICLE. 
          THEY'RE A LOW FLOOR BODY, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF AND NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE A WHEEL WELL OR ANYTHING TO STEP OVER. 
          UH, LIKE OUR TRAILHEADS, UH, THEY'RE BETTER FOR LIKE AN URBAN SYSTEM AND A SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE WITHIN THE CITY AND WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA WHERE THE CONNECT VEHICLES WE OR THE TRAILHEAD VEHICLES, WE USUALLY ORDER WITH, UH, SPECIAL LIQUID SPRINGS BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE OPERATING THEM IN NEAR THE TRAILHEADS. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS MAYOR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU, HOW IS THE RIDERSHIP DOING ON THE CONNECT VEHICLES? HAS IT IMPROVED? IT HAS IMPROVED. 
          UM, YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          IT'S, IT'S IMPROVED. 
          UH, WE'RE STILL SEEING, 
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UH, HIGHER INCREASES IN RIDERSHIP. 
          UH, WE'RE SEEING THE, THE REGULAR PLATEAUS AND THE INCREASES WITH OUR, WITH OUR BUSY SEASON. 
          UH, BUT IT, IT'S, WE'RE, LET ME SEE IF I, I JUST DID RIDERSHIP NUMBERS TODAY MM-HMM . 
          AND WE'RE ABOUT 10 TO 20% OVER FROM THE PAST FISCAL YEAR FOR JUST THIS MONTH. 
          BUT IT'S BEEN REALLY INCREASING, UH, SINCE THOSE INITIAL MONTHS. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND THEN YOU, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS ONLY $14 MILLION AVAILABLE STATEWIDE. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS MUST BE VERY COMPETITIVE. 
          IT IS VERY COMPETITIVE. 
          WHILE, AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO APPLY FOR OUR ENTIRE PROGRAM, OUR CONNECT SERVICES PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS INCREASE IS MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          THE LAST TWO YEAR CYCLE, WE DIDN'T HAVE, IT WASN'T OPERATING, SO WE DID SOME PROJECTIONS. 
          SO WHILE WE'RE ASKING FOR ALL THE FUNDING, I'M NOT EXPECTING TO RECEIVE IT BECAUSE USUALLY ABOUT 50% OF THE REQUESTS ARE NOT FULFILLED. 
          BUT IT SHOWS OUR NEED AND OUR DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO OUR SERVICES. 
          AND THIS IS FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH ADOT? YEP. 
          FEDERAL FUNDS. 
          ADOT IS THE RECIPIENT AND WE ARE A SUB-RECIPIENT. 
          I THINK THEY COULD GIVE STATE OF ARIZONA A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. 
          I, I WOULD AGREE. 
          . 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CHARLOTTE? NOT EXACTLY A QUESTION. 
          IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT, BUT I WAS JUST READING ON THE INTERNET , UM, EARLIER, ACTUALLY NOT RIGHT. 
          TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PLANS TO HOLD BACK GRANT MONEY FOR SOME DEMOCRATIC LED STATES IN THE AREA OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT PERCENTAGE, NOT THE NEW NEW ASK, BUT THE OTHER PART, UH, DOES DO THE FEDERAL FUNDS, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE THE FEDERAL FUNDS OF THE TRANSIT PROGRAM? CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, A VERY SMALL PORTION OF OUR TRANSIT FUNDING IS THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          WE'RE ONLY SEEING ABOUT, ABOUT 150,000 ANNUALLY WITH OUR BUDGET. 
          SO IT'S A VERY SMALL, LESS THAN 10, FIVE TO 10% OF FEDERAL FUNDS. 
          OUR, OUR, OUR SUPPORT, OUR SERVICES MAJORITY ARE LOCALLY, LOCALLY FUNDED. 
          THANKS. 
          BUT SO THAT'S MOSTLY OPERATING, RIGHT? YES. 
          ON THE CAPITAL END, WE'VE SEEN, UH, MORE FUNDS COMING IN FOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THAT, YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS THINKING ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATING, WHICH WE SEE MORE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          BUT WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT WHILE WE PAID FOR TWO OF THE, THE CONNECT VEHICLES LOCALLY, WE DID RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEM, THE THREE OF THEM, WHICH IS, THAT IS A, A, A GREAT INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT'S 85% FEDERAL, 15% LOCAL FUNDING TOWARDS CAPITAL EXPENSES. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW EXPOSED WE MIGHT BE. 
          YEAH. 
          MORE SO ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND EXPANSION VEHICLES. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? READY FOR A MOTION? OKAY. 
          KATHY, I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR FY 2026 FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION, SECTION 5 3 1 1 FORMULA GRANT FUNDING FOR FY 2027 AND FY 2028, AND TO APPROVE THE ASSOCIATED LOCAL MATCH AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN ALL NECESSARY APPLICATION DOCUMENTS SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, MELISSA. 
          SECONDED IT JOE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU AMBER. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH OH. 
          [9.e. AB 3322 Discussion/possible action regarding topics selection for the Council  community conversation meetings. ]
THIS IS A FUN ONE. 
          AB 33 22 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING TOPIC SELECTION FOR THE COUNCIL COMMUNITY CONVERSATION MEETINGS. 
          SO, ANNETTE, THIS IS YOURS. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, AS DISCUSSED AT YOUR COUNCIL RETREAT IN DECEMBER, UM, THE IDEA OF ESTABLISHING A TIME FOR COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE A MORE INTERACTIVE FORMAT AT A LOCATION OFFSITE FROM COUNCIL CHAMBERS WAS APPROVED BY ALL OF YOU. 
          IT WITH THE, UM, TRYING TO DO IT ONCE EVERY THREE OR FOUR TIMES, UM, IN YOUR CURRENT CALENDAR FOR SPECIAL WORK SESSIONS. 
          SO ONE WEDNESDAY, EVERY 
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THREE TO FOUR WEDNESDAYS WOULD BE ONE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          SO, UM, YOU ALSO ASKED ME TO, UH, BRING BACK IDEAS FOR WHAT THOSE TOPICS MIGHT BE SO THAT YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THOSE TOPICS AND STAFF COULD PREPARE FOR THOSE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS. 
          UM, YOU ALSO ASKED US TO FIND A DATE POSSIBLY BEFORE JULY ONE, EVEN THOUGH THAT RETREAT WAS MORE ABOUT FY 27. 
          AND WE IDENTIFIED WEDNESDAY, APRIL 29TH AS THE FIRST TIME AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND WE HAVE GONE AHEAD AND RESERVED SPACE AT THE COMMUNITY LIBRARY OF SEDONA TO HOLD THE SESSION. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, I PUT A LIST OF POTENTIAL TOPICS AND NO PARTICULAR ORDER JUST TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED, BUT STAFF JUST LOOKS FOR YOUR INPUT ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR FIRST TOPIC TO BE. 
          I ALSO LOOKED AT YOUR FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE TO SEE WHEN POTENTIAL OTHER SESSIONS COULD BE THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THE MOTION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, IF YOU WANT TO PICK ONE TONIGHT, IF THAT WOULD BE DURING THE UPCOMING MEETING SCHEDULE, OR IF YOU CAN DO THAT UNDER THIS AGENDA, BILL, KURT WILL LET ME KNOW. 
          UM, BUT MAINLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE FIRST TOPIC FOR THE 29TH, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO DISCUSS WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK YOU'D LIKE TO TACKLE FIRST. 
          UM, ONE THOUGHT I HAD THOUGH IS THAT IT'S AN EXTREMELY DRY YEAR. 
          THE SNOW PACKS VERY LOW. 
          UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR WILDFIRE MAY BE HIGH. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A TIMELY TOPIC, BUT AGAIN, UM, UP TO YOU WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TABLE WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU, ANNETTE. 
          OKAY. 
          BRIAN SEEMS LIKE I SHOULD GO FIRST SINCE THIS WAS MY IDEA. 
          , UM, YOU KNOW, THANKS ANNETTE AND STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE INITIAL LIST OF POSSIBLE IDEAS. 
          UM, YES, FIREWISE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A POTENTIAL TOPIC ON THE EARLIER SIDE OF OUR SCHEDULE COULD MAKE SENSE. 
          BUT I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF NEEDS OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT'S A VERY OPEN-ENDED CONVERSATION THAT COULD LEAD TO SOME VERY INTERESTING INSIGHTS ABOUT, UH, WHAT FOLKS WANT, UH, OUT OF LIVING HERE. 
          AND, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED, BE IT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, INCREASED TOURISM, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, OUT OF THIS LIST, I THINK MY FIRST PREFERENCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AND I HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD HANDLE UP TO TWO TOPICS IN A SESSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALISTIC OR NOT. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE ALSO OF FIREWISE IN THAT REGARD. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR KATHY. 
          OH, PETE FIRST AND THEN KATHY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, I TOO AM PRETTY SUPPORTIVE FOR THE REASONS STATED OF FIREWISE IT BEING AT THE NEAR TERM ON OUR LIST AT THE TOP, OR PER, UM, PERHAPS ANOTHER ONE THAT I'D THOUGHT OF AFTER THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTAL. 
          SO THIS WASN'T THE CITY MANAGER'S, UH, RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I THOUGHT THIS WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD STRUCTURE FOR US TO REVIEW THE SHARED USE PATHS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM, INITIALLY A LOT OF, UH, PUSHBACK AGAINST 'EM. 
          WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS. 
          OUR CAPITAL BUDGET CONTINUES TO LAY SOME OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO CHECK IN, UH, WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE PLANS AND THE PRIORITIES AND THE IDEAS FOR WHERE THEY MIGHT BE NEXT. 
          THANK YOU, KATHY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WHEN I LOOKED OVER THIS LIST, I, UM, THREE OF THEM STOOD OUT TO ME, BUT ALSO HAVE ONE THAT I WANTED TO, TO ADD ON AS WELL. 
          UM, THE THREE THAT THAT STOOD OUT WERE THE WESTERN GATEWAY LAND USES BECAUSE IT'S SO TIMELY, BUT ALSO THE, UM, BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS ACROSS ORGANIZATIONS. 
          OUR COMMUNITY BRAINSTORM IDEAS FOR WHERE THE CITY IS A PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO RESIDENTS. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS, UH, WOULD BE SOME PLACE TO REALLY BRING IN SOME PARTNERS THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY THINK OF. 
          LIKE WE ALL KNOW WHO WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH AND THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, BUT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE SCORPION BOOSTER CLUB, YOU KNOW, IN SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL. 
          AND I JUST THOUGHT WE SHOULD THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX IN TERMS OF WHEN WE ARE THINKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PARTNER WITH. 
          UM, SO I LIKE THAT ONE. 
          AND I ALSO, THE THIRD ONE THAT ROSE TO THE TOP FOR ME BEFORE I THOUGHT OF MY OWN TO ADD WAS, UH, THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO I AGREED 
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WITH, UM, THE VICE MAYOR ON THAT AS, AS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES. 
          BUT, UM, THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO ADD, AND IT MIGHT FALL INTO SOME OF THE OTHER, SUCH AS BUILDING NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS OR WESTERN GATEWAY LAND USES OR BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS, IS A REC CENTER TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HAS, FOR YEARS, AT LEAST TO ME, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE FOR A, A REC CENTER THAT WOULD MEET NEEDS, LIKE AQUATIC NEEDS, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT ALL WEATHER, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A, AN ENCLOSED FACILITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MIGHT FIT IN WITH SOME OF THE PLANS AND PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          SO I THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMMUNITY CONVERSATION TOPIC. 
          SO THOSE ARE SORT OF MY FOUR THAT I'M, WE'RE THINKING OF. 
          DEREK. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO START WITH FIREWISE, EMERGENCY PLANNING, ET CETERA. 
          UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE DRY WINTER, UH, THE FACT THAT WE'RE HEADING INTO THAT SEASON, PLUS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN UPTOWN HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE OPENING OF THE GARAGE. 
          UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE A TIMELY POINT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          UH, AS FOR THE FUTURE ONES, I'M MORE FLEXIBLE THERE, BUT I THINK FIREWISE OUGHT BE THE FIRST STEP. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED ONE OF YOUR MATRICES THERE. 
          MAYOR CHARLOTTE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? I HAD ALSO THOUGHT OF THE REC CENTER. 
          UM, MY BATTERY DIES, SO I'M TRYING TO FIND THIS, THIS ON MY PHONE. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS IS REALLY SUCH A BROAD TOPIC THAT SOME OF THESE AMENITIES, LIKE SHARED USE PATH, I MEAN, COULD FIT IN IT. 
          IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU'RE OR REC CENTERS COULD FIT IN MM-HMM . 
          I MEAN, IT'S A VERY BROAD TOPIC AND FIREWISE IS USEFUL. 
          IT'S A LITTLE PRESCRIPTIVE, UM, PERHAPS, I DON'T KNOW, DEPENDS ON THE WAY IT'S ROLLED OUT, I GUESS. 
          UM, BUT I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S VERY OPEN-ENDED, LIKE THE INTERESTS OF OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS IS A LITTLE MORE INTRIGUING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S SO OPEN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COME UP WITH IF, AND IT DEPENDS ALSO ON HOW THESE ARE, THESE SESSIONS ARE STRUCTURED. 
          IF IT'S FACILITATED OR IF IT'S JUST LYNETTE. 
          HOW ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE? WELL, DEPENDING ON, UM, THE TOPIC, I FIGURED WE WOULD HAVE SOME, UH, FACTUAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE JUST TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE. 
          UM, AND COUNSELOR FOLTZ OR VICE MAYOR FOLTZ HAD TALKED ABOUT HIS VISION BEING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SEVEN TABLES WHERE ONE OF YOU ARE AT EACH TABLE, PERHAPS A STAFF PERSON AS WELL AT EACH TABLE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE LIKE EITHER A QUESTION OR THE TOPIC OR WHATEVER TO DISCUSS WITHIN YOUR TABLE. 
          UM, AND THEN PERHAPS A REPORT OUT TO THE WHOLE GROUP AND JUST LET IT BE ORGANIC AND SEE WHERE IT, IT DEVELOPED. 
          BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE, UM, WELL DEFINED, LIKE FIRE WISE, WE HAVE LOTS OF MATERIALS, THEN THAT WOULD, COULD BE MORE OF A PRESENTATION, ANSWERING QUESTIONS TYPE OF EVENT. 
          SO, UM, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE TOPIC YOU PICK. 
          CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, DO YOU, DO YOU ENVISION IN THE TABLES AND LIKE ONE QUESTION FOCUS PER TABLE, LIKE THAT THE PARTICIPANTS, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD BE ROTATING AMONG THE TABLES OR THAT, OR THESE WOULD JUST BE, WE COULD, WE COULD DO BREAKOUT SESSIONS. 
          IT COULD BE HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT. 
          SO THERE'S TONS OF FLEXIBILITY. 
          IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS YOU WANNA GET OUT OF IT. 
          UM, I'M INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, ROTATING PEOPLE THROUGH TO BE A PART OF EACH SORT OF QUESTION. 
          LIKE A SPEED DATING YEAH. 
          TYPE OF SCENARIO. 
          UM, LIKE 15 MINUTES AT EACH ONE. 
          AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP. 
          'CAUSE YOU WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANNETTE AND I JUST PARTICIPATED IN A YAVAPAI COLLEGE, UH, SESSION, SESSION TWO OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERIES THAT THEY'RE RUNNING. 
          AND THEY HAD A SPEAKER WHO SPOKE FOR A FEW MINUTES, KIND OF FRAMED THE ISSUE, AND THEN PEOPLE SAT AT ROUND TABLES THAT WERE MIXED. 
          WELL, IT STARTED WHERE YOU JUST SAT DOWN AND PEOPLE JOINED YOU, BUT THEN THEY HAD, UM, A, UH, BASKET. 
          AND IN THE BASKET WERE NUMBERS, LIKE DICE WITH NUMBERS 
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ON THEM. 
          AND THEN THE FACILITY, THERE WAS A FACILITATOR AT EACH TABLE. 
          THEY HAD A BUTCHER PAPER AND SOMEBODY WROTE, AND THEN THEY REPORTED OUT AND THEN THEY, THE FACILITATOR GAVE THE DICE. 
          SO THE DICE WAS FOR THE NUMBER OF TABLES THAT WERE THERE, AND THEY HANDED IT OUT. 
          AND THEN YOU MOVED TO THAT TABLE. 
          SO TO YOUR POINT, KATHY, YOU DIDN'T SIT WITH THE SAME PEOPLE THE ENTIRE TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN YOU GOT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER PEOPLE. 
          IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TABLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, I THOUGHT IT WORKED VERY WELL. 
          MAYOR, HOW LONG DID YOU SPEND AT EACH POSITION? IT WAS 15 MINUTES. 
          WAS IT? OH, AT EACH TABLE? IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 15 MINUTES. 
          THE WHOLE EVENT WAS LIKE FIVE HOURS THOUGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          . 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THEY COVERED EVERY, A LOT OF TOPICS. 
          A LOT OF TOPICS. 
          MELISSA, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UM, YEAH, I MEAN, KEEPING IN MIND THE FACT THAT THIS ISN'T US PONTIFICATING TO EACH OTHER, BUT RATHER US LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY BASED ON HOWEVER WE SET THIS UP. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT FIREWISE, BUT I THINK WILDFIRE RESILIENCE IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN, YOU KNOW, GETTING YOUR CAR AND DRIVE AWAY. 
          IF SOMEBODY SAYS THERE'S WILDFIRE, LIKE HOW DO WE KNOW AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH TOURISTS? AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AND EMERGENCY PLANNING. 
          WE ALREADY, WE HAVE A PLAN, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF THINKING ABOUT EMERGENCY PLANNING. 
          FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD THINK PART OF EMERGENCY PLANNING MAY BE ABOUT BUILDING NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS. 
          THERE ARE NEIGHBORS HOODS THAT CAN'T, THEY ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. 
          IT'S THE SAME ONE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE EMERGENCY VEHICLES TRYING TO GET IN. 
          SO THAT'S HOW THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTION WAS FROM, YOU KNOW, LIKE 2016, 2017, WHEN WE WERE ALL AFRAID THAT THERE'D BE TOURISTS ALL OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELCOME ST WE HAVE TOURISTS ALL OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THESE ARE SOME, THERE WERE INTERRELATED. 
          I THINK THAT BUILDING CONNECTIONS CAN ALSO BE THE, THE SUVS. 
          HOW DO WE MOVE BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? UM, WHETHER YOU'RE WALKING OR YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE OR YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR TRIKE, WHICH WAS A NEW ONE TO ME, SEEING THESE GIANT TRIKES ON THE SHARED USE PATH ON THUNDER, THUNDER MOUNTAIN. 
          UM, BUT I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE DEFINITELY INTERRELATED NEEDS OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR SURE, IS SOMETHING WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT. 
          RIGHT? WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF HOUSING DO THEY NEED? WHAT KIND OF HEALTHCARE DO WE NEED? DO WE NEED TO HAVE A ASSISTED LIVING? DO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, DAYCARES, DO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE NEED AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT, UM, BOTH FAMILIES AND SENIORS? AND THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT AS TO WHAT THEY NEED, THEY NEED IN ORDER TO SUPPORT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY MEATY ONE. 
          I WOULD EXPECT THAT ONE TO BE FIVE HOURS. 
          UM, , UM, I'M KIDDING. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK EITHER ONE OF THEM IS, IS A GOOD TOPIC TO START WITH. 
          THE DATES THAT I SAW HERE. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS IN AUGUST. 
          UM, AND BY AUGUST FOR SURE, WE'RE GONNA KNOW HOW MANY WILDFLOWERS HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA. 
          WE'RE GOING TO KNOW, UM, HOW DRY IT'S BEEN. 
          SO IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S A GREAT TOPIC THEN TO SAY VERY TIMELY. 
          WHAT IS IT WE'RE GOING TO DO? UM, IF SOMETHING SPARKS HERE YEP. 
          IT'S TOO LATE IF SOMETHING SPARKS HERE BEFORE THEN. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THOSE TWO TO ME ARE LIKE THE, THE MOST PRESSING TOPICS FOR US TO TALK ABOUT. 
          AND IN A BROAD SENSE AND NOT LETTING OURSELVES SAY, WELL, IT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS. 
          WE SHOULD BE LISTENING. 
          AND IF THOSE THINGS ARE COMING UP, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT BACK INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          SO LAST YEAR THERE WERE TWO BIG EVENTS ON FIREWISE AND EMERGENCY PLANNING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ONE THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE SEDONA WOMEN AND THEY HAD OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE, MAYBE EVEN CLOSE TO 200 PEOPLE. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE, UH, SEDONA FIRE AT THE SPAC. 
          AND THEY, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AT THAT ONE AS WELL. 
          SO I'M KIND OF THINKING THAT MAYBE NOT THAT HAVING TWO EVENTS CLOSES THAT TOPIC, BUT IT HAS PE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING IT. 
          BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, ANNETTE, THE CHIEF HAS A PRESENTATION AND SHE HELD SEVERAL EVENTS, LIKE THREE OR FOUR EVENTS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. 
          AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT, UH, SPD WOULD 
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SEE AS PART OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, LIKE ROUTINE TO WOULD SEE? LET ME BACK UP. 
          ARE YOU ASKING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY PLAN ON CONTINUING TO YES, THAT'S EXACTLY PEOPLE ON, YES. 
          YES. 
          SO YOU COULD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, IF YOU FEEL THAT TOPIC IS MORE OF, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PUT MATERIAL OUT AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND PUT, DO SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH AND MORE OF THAT TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY EDUCATION EFFORT AROUND THE EVACUATION PLAN, KNOW YOUR ZONE, UH, BE UNDERSTANDING WHAT APSS ENERGY SHUTOFF PROGRAM IS SO THAT THEY'RE PREPARED IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ELECTRICITY, THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          WE CAN DO IT THROUGH THAT, UM, TACTIC INSTEAD OF AS A ROUND TABLE CONVERSATION. 
          SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE NEVER GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE TOPICS IF YOU DON'T PICK IT AS A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION. 
          'CAUSE WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I, I, I ATTENDED A COUPLE OF THEM AND THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGERS WERE THERE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE, POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE, SHERIFFS, I MEAN, THEY COVERED ALL OF THE, OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT AND, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY DID PARTICIPATE. 
          IT WASN'T HUGE, BUT YOU KNOW, 30 PEOPLE ON EACH ONE. 
          SO IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. 
          AND IT WAS A LOT AROUND KNOW YOUR ZONE MM-HMM . 
          SO I WAS THINKING THAT IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ONGOING WITHIN PD YES. 
          YES. 
          THAT, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COVER THAT. 
          AND I LIKE, I LIKE THE WIDE OPEN. 
          I I, IN AGREEMENT WITH A LOT OF THE, MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES AND SENIORS. 
          AND I DO THINK THAT THAT ACTIVITIES IS PART OF THAT, WHICH THEN COULD LEAD TO DO WE NEED A REC CENTER OR NOT. 
          I MEAN, I ACTUALLY WAS AT THE REC CENTER IN COTTONWOOD THE OTHER NIGHT AND WALKING IN WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM SEDONA WHO SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED IN SEDONA. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CONVERSATION AS WELL AS ANY OTHER NEEDS LIKE SENIOR HOUSING AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY BROAD COVER A LOT. 
          SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS THE FIRST CONVERSATION MYSELF. 
          SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS OR  FOR THAT. 
          SO IS, IS THERE CONSENSUS? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT A MOTION? I, WELL, I WROTE IT THAT WAY AS A MOTION. 
          DID HURT DISAPPEAR. 
          , I THINK I'VE GOT THE HEAD NOD DIRECTION ON IT. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO FOR THE 29TH. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, HOW YOU WANT TO PICK THE NEXT ONES? IF YOU WANT, THERE HE IS. 
           THEY WERE JUST ASKING IF THEY NEED A FORMAL MOTION. 
          THEY'VE COME TO A CONSENSUS ON THE FIRST TOPIC. 
          HEAD NODS ON WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON THE 29TH. 
          BUT YOU, YOU DON'T NEED A FORMAL MOTION. 
          THERE'S A MOTION IN THE PACKET IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE ONE. 
          UM, THERE WAS, IT WAS ALSO SET UP THAT IF YOU WANTED TO PICK FUTURE TOPICS YOU COULD AS WELL TONIGHT, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, OR IF I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IZE IT AGAIN TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AGAIN AFTER THE 29TH AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT WENT AND IF YOU, HOW YOU WANT TO DO THE NEXT ONE. 
          UM, MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT WITH LISTING OUT THE FUTURE DATES IS THEN WE COULD PROMOTE THEM, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE PEOPLE KNOW OR HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A CONTINUING SERIES OR WHATNOT. 
          BUT WE COULD ALSO JUST DO THE FIRST ONE, DEBRIEF AND LEARN FROM IT AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO DO THE NEXT ONE. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          AN THAT, LET'S SEE HOW THE FIRST ONE GOES. 
          WE MIGHT FIND THAT THERE'S SOME REALLY GREAT STUFF THAT WE WANT TO DIG INTO FURTHER. 
          YEAH. 
          THE NEXT TIME AROUND OR, OR MAYBE WE WILL DISCOVER THAT IT'S A GREAT TIME TO PICK UP ON WESTERN GATEWAY. 
          HARD TO SAY RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH, MY THOUGHTS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL DO IT THAT WAY. 
          DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT? SURE. 
          YEP. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, LAUREN. 
          POOR LAUREN. 
          SO IT'S THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 
          LAUREN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I TOLD ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS DAIS WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU'VE BEEN DOING. 
          I SAID YOU WERE APPROPRIATELY POLITE AND APPROPRIATELY DISCUSSED IT. 
            PASSIONATE. 
          I USE THE WORD PASSIONATE. 
          IT'S A FINE BALANCE. 
          THIS IS THE SAME WINK SHE HAS, BUT I'M GONNA WORK ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 
          [9.f. AB 3313 Discussion/possible direction/action regarding proposed State legislation,  short-term rental legislation, lobbying efforts, and State budget and their potential  impact on the City of Sedona. ]
THIS IS AB 33 13, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION ACTION 
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REGARDING PROPOSED STATE LEGISLATION, SHORT TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION, LOBBYING EFFORTS, AND STATE BUDGET, AND THEIR POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY OF SEDONA ON THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN BUY SOME TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JOANNE'S WORKING ON MAKING SURE THAT KATHY, KATHY SIMPSON CAN BE HERE. 
          I HOPE FOR MY SAKE THAT SHE CAN. 
          SO, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          TONIGHT WE WILL BE JOINED BY KATHY CINON, OUR LOBBYIST. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, KATHY, WHENEVER YOU GET HERE, UM, WE ARE NOW MY PHONE IF WE CAN'T GET HER ON HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          GO THERE IF WE NEED TO. 
          UM, WE ARE NOW FIVE WEEKS INTO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WITH YESTERDAY. 
          YESTERDAY BEING THE LAST DAY TO INTRODUCE BILLS, LIKE LAST MEETING YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN. 
          NOPE, THAT'S NOT TRUE EITHER. 
          , LET'S HEAR. 
          YEAH, IT, IT'S OKAY. 
          IT'LL BE THERE. 
          UM, THE BILLS THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO OVER WITH YOU TONIGHT, UM, I'LL HAVE KATHY GO OVER THE BILLS AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IF COUNSEL WANTS TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THESE. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT I'VE TAKEN, AGAIN, A BEST GUESS ON WHERE I THINK YOU'LL LAND. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S UP FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE. 
          ULTIMATELY HAVE TO, I CAN'T. 
          KATHY, HAS SHE JOINED US? WE HAVE A TEAMS ISSUE, SO SHE'S GONNA JOIN US. 
          AUDIO. 
          HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CALL THIS? OKAY. 
          I CALL YOU. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          HEY LAUREN. 
          HEY KATHY. 
          UM, SO THE TEAM'S LINK IS NOT WORKING. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA HOLD THE MICROPHONE DOWN TO THE SPEAKERPHONE AND WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE IT WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, KATHY, I'M JUST GIVING AN INTRO AND I'M GONNA TELL 'EM ABOUT, UM, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BILLS AND THEN I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO YOU TO GO OVER THE LIST OF HIGHLIGHTED BILLS, UM, THAT I SENT YESTERDAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BILLS THAT WE WERE HOPING TO GET MOVED FORWARD. 
          THE MAYOR KATHY AND I MET WITH A FEW OTHER CITIES, SENATOR FINCHEM AND REPRESENTATIVE BLISS AND AIRBNB TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY COMMON GROUND BETWEEN THE CITIES AND AIRBNB WITH THE GOAL THAT THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS COULD SEE THAT THEIR SUPPORT ON BOTH SIDES IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BILLS HEARD IN COMMITTEE, IT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR THAT AIRBNB IS NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING RELATED TO ZONING OR LICENSE CAPS. 
          THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF CHANGES PRIMARILY RELATED TO EXTENDING TIMELINES TO ADJUDICATE VERIFIED VIOLATIONS, OCCUPANCY LIMITS, ADDRESSING BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS AND MANDATORY SEX OFFENDER BACKGROUND CHECKS. 
          HOWEVER, WITH THAT SAID, I AM IN DIALOGUE WITH AIRBNB TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP TO SEDONA IN THE FOLLOWING MONTHS TO LOOK AT TARGETED CAPS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR NEXT YEAR'S SESSION. 
          THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE WERE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHOSE BIGGEST ISSUES ARE BAD ACTORS AND EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT THE DATA TELLS US, FOR EXAMPLE, OUT-OF-STATE VERSUS IN-STATE INVESTORS AND OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS VERSUS SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH HOME RENTALS. 
          THEY ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. 
          AND SO I WILL BE PURSUING THAT, BUT IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE ANY OF OUR BILLS THAT ACTUALLY WILL AFFECT ANY CHANGE THAT WE HAVE UP HERE. 
          WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE'LL SEE MAYBE, MAYBE IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS WE'LL FIND OUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS NOT, UM, I GUESS IT WAS EXPECTED. 
          IT, THE OUTCOME WAS WHAT WE KIND OF EXPECTED. 
          THERE'S $5 MILLION IN PAC FUNDING 
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FROM AIRBNB IN AN ELECTION YEAR. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? YEAH, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, REPRESENTATIVE WINNIER WHO WOULD BE, UM, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF, UM, GETTING OUR BILLS HEARD IN THE COMMITTEE, UM, IT SEEMED AS THOUGH, UH, HE HAD MET WITH, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE AND, UM, AHEAD OF TIME AND MADE IT CLEAR THAT IF HE WAS GONNA HAVE IT HEARD THERE NEEDED TO BE SUPPORT ON BOTH SIDES. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH A BLANKET CAP, AS I WAS TOLD. 
          HOWEVER, THEY ARE INTERESTED IN COMING UP AND HEARING ABOUT A TARGETED CAP, TARGETED CAP, KIND OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, WHETHER THAT'S, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED IS THAT, UM, OUTTA THE STATE INVESTORS, THERE'S, THERE'S A MILLION WAYS YOU COULD SLICE THAT. 
          UH, IT'LL BE MY JOB OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO TRY AND LOOK AT OUR DATA AND SEE WHAT IT SUPPORTS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I THINK AIRBNB COULD ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN IF THEY COME UP AND VISIT, I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE, MAKE AN OFFER THAT IF THEY, YOU WANT TO BRING 'EM TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT'S OVER 50%, MY STREET IS NOW OVER 50% SHORT TERM RENTALS, BE HAPPY TO GIVE 'EM A TOUR. 
          WELL, UM, I, MY PROMISE TO AIRBNB WAS THAT, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS WAS, UM, NOT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT WAS THAT IT WILL BE A FRIENDLY VISIT. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, THE PURPOSE IS TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          UM, I'M NOT GONNA THROW HER TO THE LION'S DEN. 
          UM, BUT THE FACT THAT SHE TOOK MY CALL AT ALL AND IS WILLING TO HAVE SOME DIALOGUE IS AT LEAST SOMETHING POSITIVE. 
          I THINK THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE WILLIAMS AND PAIGE THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE SAME BIND AS WE ARE AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD CONTRACTED LOBBYISTS. 
          SO THEY'RE SILENT. 
          AND NOW THEY COULD ASSIGN SOMEBODY WITHIN THEIR CITY OR THEIR MAYOR COULD HAVE SHOWED UP, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, TO LEAVE THEM OUT. 
          SO IF WE WERE TARGETED CAPS, YOU KNOW, JUST NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR SEDONA, ALTHOUGH OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN CITY, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS IN THE PAST MM-HMM . 
          SO I'M GONNA CALL THE MAYORS OF BOTH OF THOSE CITIES AND TALK TO THEM. 
          YEP. 
          INCLUDE ME IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          A LOT OF IT IS WHAT DATA DO THEY HAVE? YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH DATA SO THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT, UM, AIRBNB MADE IT CLEAR TO ME THAT, UM, IT NEEDED TO BE A DATA-DRIVEN DECISION, WHATEVER IT WAS. 
          AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING 'CAUSE THEY IMMEDIATELY STARTED CHALLENGING OUR DATA AND SAYING THAT SEDONAS NEVER BEEN AFFORDABLE. 
          SO THEIR IMPACT OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAS ONLY BEEN 2%. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT WE'VE ALWAYS NOT HAD HOMES THAT WERE OCCUPIED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE, UH, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH HOME COMMUNITY AND THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING RENTED. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOT ANYTHING ELSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          INTERESTING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR TAKE ON IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND LAUREN DIDN'T SAY THIS YET, BUT SHE TOLD IT TO ME, SHE OWNS PROPERTY HERE. 
          SHE, NOT ME, WASN'T YOU BUT YOU THAT WHEN YOU AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOU PAID FOR YOUR HOUSE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO YOU HAD AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE. 
          YOU BOUGHT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE. 
          YES. 
          IT WAS THE CHEAPEST HOUSE ON THE MARKET WHEN I BOUGHT IT. 
          YEP. 
          SO PEOPLE HAVE RIGHT, THE CONCEPT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN AFFORDABLE HERE, YOU JUST HAD TO BUY THE CHEAPEST HOUSE THAT NO ONE ELSE WANTED AND WAS IT FORECLOSURE AND MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL AND PUT LOVE INTO IT EVERY DAY AFTER THAT. 
          SO LAUREN, I THINK ONE OF YOUR PIECES OF DATA TO SHARE WITH THEM IS ALSO THE FACT THAT OUR POPULATION HAS DECREASED MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT JUST HOUSING UNITS ITSELF. 
          IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEIR ARGUMENT OF IT WAS ALWAYS JUST 
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THE, THE SECOND OR THIRD OWNERS. 
          WELL THEN HOW COME OUR POPULATION HAS GONE DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT GREAT NEWS, UM, LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS WITH KATHY. 
          KATHY, CAN YOU GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTED BILLS ON THE LIST? YEAH. 
          HI GUYS. 
          UM, SO REALLY QUICK JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS SESSION. 
          UM, WE ARE, MONDAY WAS THE LAST DAY FOR BILL INTRODUCTIONS. 
          SO WE NOW HAVE THE UNIVERSE OF BILLS THAT WE WILL BE DEALING WITH. 
          UM, NOW THE NEXT DEADLINE IN THE SESSION IS THAT THE BILLS, UH, COMMITTEE DEADLINE. 
          SO THEY HAVE UNTIL FEBRUARY 20TH TO HEAR BILLS OR THEY ARE DEAD IN THE PROCESS. 
          THEN THEY WILL SWITCH OVER TO THE OPPOSITE CHAMBER, GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          AND ALSO THEY INTRODUCED OVER 2000 BILLS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS A FIRST FOR ARIZONA. 
          SO WE SAW OUR FIRST BILLS, HOUSE BILLS THAT ARE, THE NUMBERS ARE IN THE FOUR THOUSANDS. 
          UM, DIDN'T THINK I'D EVER SEE THAT IN MY LIFETIME, BUT HERE WE ARE. 
          UM, SO TO GO THROUGH THE BILLS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE REPORT THAT AARON SENT YOU, WE HAVE HCR 2052, UM, WHICH IS ALSO SIMILAR TO HOUSE BILL 40 30. 
          UM, SO I'LL JUST TAKE KIND OF THOSE TWO TOGETHER. 
          SO THIS PROHIBITS MUNICIPALITIES FROM INCREASING FEES, THE TPT SURCHARGES, UM, ANY OF THAT FOR ADOPTING ANY NEW TAX CLASSIFICATION. 
          AND IT PROHIBITS THE, THE CITIES FROM CIRCUMVENTING THE MORATORIUM BY RENAMING OR RESTRUCTURING CHARGES. 
          SO THIS IS A, UH, DEFINITELY A HUGE PREEMPTION BILL AND ONE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY TIE YOUR HANDS, UH, IF REVENUE WAS EVER NEEDED IN THE CITY. 
          SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND OPPOSE ON THAT POSITION. 
          UM, THE NEXT ONE AND ON THE LIST, AND PLEASE ANYONE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I'M JUST GONNA BLOW THROUGH THESE INSTEAD. 
          UM, KATHY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? IT'S KATHY KINSELLA. 
          YES. 
          INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THEM AND THEN US GOING BACK OVER THE NUMBER FOR WHAT WE AGREE WITH OPPOSING OR WHATEVER, CAN YOU, AS YOU JUST PRESENTED THAT ONE, CAN WE GET THE SENSE UP HERE AND FINISH OUT EACH NUMBER BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BILL? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ON 2052 AND 40 30, UH, I WOULD BE IN, UH, SUPPORT OF OPPOSING THAT BILL. 
          SO DO, I'M SEEING NODS AROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          EVERYBODY'S NODDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU HAVE THAT YEP. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          KATHY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          OKAY, NEXT UP ON THE LIST, 28 0 4. 
          THIS IS ESTABLISHING A RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING TAX CREDIT, UM, AGAINST INSURANCE PREMIUM AND INDIVIDUAL CORPORATE INCOME TAX FOR QUALIFIED LOW INCOME HOUSING, UM, LOCATED IN COUNTIES WITH A POPULATION UNDER 800,000. 
          UM, AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW CREDITS, UM, AND, AND THEN IT'S A ALLOW CREDIT ALLOCATION AMONG PROJECT PARTNERS PERMITS FIVE YEAR CARRY FORWARDS. 
          SO JUST A, JUST A WAY TO HELP WITH HOUSING. 
          UM, SO, UH, WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A RECOMMEND OF SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. 
          AND THAT CAME OUTTA FLAGSTAFF. 
          JUST, UH, NO, THEY ASKED US TO SUPPORT IT. 
          I, I SUPPORT SUPPORTING IT. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          VIRGO. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY, NEXT, UM, THE LIST, WE TALKED ABOUT 40, 30, SO I'LL MOVE ON TO 1163. 
          UM, THIS IS BUDGETS AND AMENDMENTS AND QUICK, I'M SORRY, JUST PULLING MY BILL UP HERE FOR MY NOTES. 
          UM, SO IT AUTHORIZES A, A CITY TO AMEND IT'S ADOPTED BUDGET DURING THE FISCAL YEAR TO SPEND ADDITIONAL REVENUES NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. 
          UM, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, I THINK WE GOT SOME NOTES ON THIS ONE. 
          UH, UM, THAT IT WOULD ALLOW, IT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO HAVE MUCH TIGHTER BUDGETING AND FORECASTING. 
          AND SO WE GOT POSITIVE FEEDBACK, UH, OR WE GOT, UH, FEEDBACK FROM STAFF ON THIS. 
          AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OPPOSE POSITION. 
          WAIT, SAY THAT AGAIN? YEAH, I DON'T, I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. 
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I'M SORRY. 
          SO WE DID GET, WE DID GET SOME RESPONSE BACK THAT WOULD ALLOW, UH, FOR A MUCH TIGHTER BUDGETING AND FORECASTING. 
          UM, AND BASICALLY THE FEEDBACK WAS DEPARTMENTS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HA TO CONSIDER EVERY POSSIBLE THING THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE UPCOMING YEAR. 
          UM, AND SO IT WOULD MAKE THINGS MORE DIFFICULT FROM A BUDGETING STANDPOINT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD RECEIVED. 
          I DON'T GET THAT, SORRY, THAT SEEMS CONTRADICTORY. 
          YEAH. 
           THIS ONE, I'M SORRY. 
          PUSH IT ON YEAH. 
          DOWN BELOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE FEEDBACK THAT I GAVE WAS THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT EASIER RIGHT. 
          TO BUDGET, NOT HARDER. 
          UM, IT ALLOWS US MORE, MORE TO BE MORE EXACT IN BUDGETING BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE HAVE TO BUDGET FOR CONTINGENCIES IN BASICALLY EVERYTHING BECAUSE IF ANYTHING COMES UP DURING THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WITHIN THE BUDGET, WE CAN'T AMEND THE BUDGET TO PAY FOR THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHEREAS IN MOST OF THE COUNTRIES, CITIES CAN AMEND THEIR BUDGET. 
          YOU COME TO COUNCIL AND YOU SAY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO X, Y, Z, AND WE HAVE RESERVES FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE THIS AMOUNT OF THOSE EXISTING RESERVES TO PAY FOR THIS THING THAT SUPPORTS OUR STRATEGIC GOAL. 
          AND COUNCIL DECIDES WHETHER THEY WANNA DO THAT. 
          UM, ARIZONA DOES NOT ALLOW THAT CURRENTLY, WHICH MAKES BUDGETS BIGGER THAN THEY NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE CONTINGENCIES THAT WE HAVE TO BUDGET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, BARBARA. 
          MY GUESS WAS THAT WE SUPPORTED IT, NOT THAT WE, I, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. 
          WE WANNA SUPPORT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY FOR BEING SLIGHTLY CONFUSING THERE ON THAT ONE. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, 1519 IS DEALING WITH OFF HIGHWAY HIGHWAY VEHICLE WEIGHTS, AND WE ARE REQUESTING AN OPPOSE POSITION ON THIS. 
          THIS WOULD INCREASE THE OFF HIGHWAY OHV, UM, FROM THE CURRENT 2,500 POUNDS TO 3,500 POUNDS. 
          AND FROM MY RECOLLECTION, THIS HAS KIND OF HISTORICALLY BEEN SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE OPPOSED, IS INCREASING THAT WEIGHT. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE, I KNOW THE LOBBYIST FROM POLARIS HAS SAID THAT AS THEY HAVE MOVED TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR OTHER THINGS, THE BATTERIES AND THINGS, UH, ARE HEAVIER. 
          AND SO THEY NEED TO HAVE THIS INCREASE IN THE POUNDAGE FOR THAT FOR THEIR VEHICLES. 
          WELL, WE'VE CONSISTENTLY OPPOSED IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I HAVE A STAIN ON THAT ONE. 
          SO IF I HAVE A QUESTION, IT IS, CONSIDERING THAT WE'VE OPPOSED IT EVERY YEAR THAT IT'S BEEN, UH, INTRODUCED, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US THIS YEAR? JUST TO ASK YOU MEAN? YEAH. 
          SO ALTHOUGH IT GOT PUT ON THE, UM, LIST THAT WE ALL AGREED ON, I JUST WANTED TO, SINCE WE HAD THE TIME TO ACTUALLY ASK YOU, MY COMMITMENT TO YOU WAS THAT IF I DON'T HAVE TIME, YOU'VE GIVEN ME AUTHORITY TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. 
          I HAVE TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, KATHY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS MAYBE, UH, LAST WEEK SOMETIME, AND I THOUGHT IF I HOLD IT UNTIL TUESDAY NIGHT TO, UM, LOG THE POSITION, IS THAT GONNA BE FINE? AND KATHY, KATHY SENSEMAN SAID YES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TONIGHT, BUT I, I KNEW THAT YOU ALL WOULD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ONE THAT, UH, KATHY, YOU LEFT OFF ON OR YOU LEFT OFF? UM, IT'S 'CAUSE I PULLED A FAST ONE ON YOU. 
          I ADDED, UM, HB 2304, WHICH WAS JUST THE, UM, APPROPRIATION FOR, UM, OUR ROUNDABOUT PROJECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          EVERYBODY NODS ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AGAIN, I KNEW THAT YOU ALL WOULD SUPPORT THAT, BUT I'M HERE AND I FIGURED I'D GET THE NODS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN IN, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVE BLISS OF HOW TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. 
          UM, SO YEAH, IT'D BE GREAT TO BE ON RECORD SUPPORTING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT OTHER BILLS WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO TALK ABOUT? KATHY ? EVERYBODY LOOKS AT ME. 
          UM, SO HB 27 93, ALTHOUGH WOULD NOT HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON, UH, SEDONA IN THIS CASE IS, AGAIN, I'LL BRING IT UP AS I DID AS A BILL LAST TIME AROUND. 
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THIS IS A DIFFERENT BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW US CITY TOWN TO PUBLISH ANNEXATION HEARING NOTICES ELECTRONICALLY AND REDUCE POSTING REQUIREMENTS FOR PROPOSED ANNEXATION. 
          I, AGAIN, ALWAYS TAKE THE POSITION OF REDUCING NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS IS NOT A GOOD GOVERNMENT POLICY AND THEREFORE I OPPOSE THEM. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER OPPOSING THAT BILL AS WELL. 
          KATHY, HAVE ANY SENSE WHETHER THAT BILL'S GONNA GET A HEARING, IF IT'S A REAL BILL OR NOT? I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT. 
          UM, IT'S ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING THIS WEDNESDAY TOMORROW. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANNA JOIN ME IN OPPOSING THAT BILL? I'M HAPPY TO OPPOSE, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER THAT ARE SIMILAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT COULD WE GO YEAH. 
          ONE AT A TIME? NO, I'LL JOIN YOU IN OPPOSING THAT I AGREED TO. 
          SO WE'RE ALL, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA OPPOSE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE WERE  AND WE WERE ASKED, UH, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE LEAGUE AND QUEEN CREEK, SURPRISE, MISS MESA, BUCKEYE, BISBEE, PHOENIX, UH, GLENDALE, AVONDALE, APACHE JUNCTION ARE ALL FOR THAT BILL. 
          YES. 
          THEY'RE SUPPORTING, AS THEY ALWAYS DO. 
          THE LEAGUE HAS DONE ANYTHING THAT, UH, REDUCES ANY SORT OF COST REQUIREMENT ON CITIES FOR POSTING NOTIFICATIONS. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY GOOD GOVERNMENT. 
          I'VE MADE THAT CASE BEFORE AND I'M MAKING IT AGAIN. 
          AND, AND I, I WOULD SAY THAT, THAT THE RED ROCK NEWS ASKED, AND I DID SIGN IN ON MY, YOU KNOW, AS MYSELF, NOT AS THE MAYOR FOR SB 10 27, WHICH KATHY BROUGHT UP LAST TIME, WHICH IS PUBLIC NOTICES, GOVERNMENT WEBSITE POSTING, WHICH WOULD, UM, ALLOW FOR ELECTRONIC POSTING AND NOT, AND NOT, UH, REQUIRE BE POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPERS. 
          CAN WE REVISIT THAT ONE? THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SB 10 27 AND SB 1167. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, HAVING THOUGHT ABOUT IT MORE PARTLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT, UH, COUNCILOR KINSELLA SAID ABOUT NOTICE, UM, MORE NOTICE IS BETTER. 
          I THINK A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AREN'T COMPUTER SAVVY. 
          I THINK WE GET EMAILS KIND OF REGULARLY FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO HAVE SOMEONE HELP SEND THEM AN EMAIL. 
          SO I THINK THEY RELY ON PRINT MEDIA. 
          UM, AND I DON'T WANNA CUT THOSE PEOPLE OUTTA THE CONVERSATION. 
          UM, SECONDARILY, UH, AND THAT THIS ISN'T A REASON, YOU KNOW, BY ITSELF TO OPPOSE IT. 
          BUT I MEAN, THE FACT IS, I THINK LOCAL MEDIA, WHETHER IT'S THE VERDE NEWS OR THE RED ROCK NEWS OR LOCAL MEDIA IN ANY OTHER SMALL TOWN FREQUENTLY RELY ON THIS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TIME IN OUR COUNTRY WHEN OLIGARCHS LIKE JEFF BEZOS ARE DISASSEMBLING, UH, DISASSEMBLING LONG ESTABLISHED MEDIA. 
          SO, I MEAN, I THINK MORE AND MORE WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING OUR INFORMATION AT A LOCAL LEVEL. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO FURTHER HAMSTRING THE ABILITY OF LOCAL MEDIA OUTLETS TO GET US INFORMATION. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT I, I, I SIGNED IN FOR BOTH OPPOSING BOTH OF THOSE BILLS, BUT I LOOKED AT, AND I THINK THEY'RE GONNA TO PASS, ACTUALLY YOU MAY, BUT I, 'CAUSE THERE WAS VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO WERE IN OPPOSITION AND BOTH, UM, THE, UH, DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN CAUCUSES APPROVED THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I STILL THINK WE SHOULD OPPOSE, BUT I SIGNED IN AN OPPOSITION. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I MEAN, I THINK AS A CITY, I THINK WE SHOULD OPPOSE THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MAYBE IT'S TOO LATE, MAYBE IT'S FUTILE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT, UH, SO THEY WERE TOO LATE TO GO ON RECORD WITH THE RIGHT THING. 
          WELL, SO YEAH. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD OPPOSE 'EM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          KATHY, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON IF IT'S FUTILE OR NOT? NO, I MEAN, I MEAN, THE BILL IS SPONSORED BY THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER . 
          UM, AND SO THE BILL IS GONNA, IS GONNA MOVE MM-HMM . 
          UM, WOULD BE MY GUESS. 
          IT IS MOVING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THESE BILLS ARE DIFF GENERALLY DIFFICULT TO PASS. 
          THAT'S WHY WE SEE SO MANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE BILL IS GONNA MOVE. 
          WE'LL JUST SEE, I I, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF DOES IT GET OVER THE FINISH LINE OR NOT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DO YOU HAVE A SENSE FOR WHETHER ANYBODY IS CONSIDERING THE SECONDARY IMPACT ON MEDIA? I MEAN, I REALIZE THE IDEA IS LET'S JUST MAKE THIS EASY, EASIER FOR CITIES TO, BUT IS IN, I DIDN'T 
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EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT UNTIL SEVERAL DAYS LATER AND I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          YOU KNOW, IS ANYBODY LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT VIEWPOINT? OR IS IT JUST, LET'S JUST MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE FOR CITIES TO PROVIDE THEIR NOTICE? IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A REVENUE ISSUE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A COST ISSUE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          YOU SAVE MONEY. 
          NO, I GET THAT. 
          BUT I MEAN, IT'S IN REALITY A PRETTY MINIMAL COST WITH NO, I THINK POTENTIALLY A BIG IMPACT. 
          IT DEPENDS ON THE MUNICIPALITY. 
          IT DOES, IT DOES FOR US. 
          YES. 
          FOR SOMEONE ELSE, MAYBE NOT. 
          NO, I, BUT I THINK WITH THE ELIMINATION OF VARIOUS TAXES, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE BILLS THAT ARE PROHIBITING REVENUE COMING INTO CITIES, SOME OF THE LARGER JURISDICTIONS ARE LOOKING TO SAVE COSTS WHERE THEY CAN. 
          SO EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF PUBLIC NOTICE MM-HMM . 
          PUBLIC INPUT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND IF IT, IF IT DID PASS, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT YOU COULD SET THE POLICY FOR US THAT OUR STANDARD IS THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE. 
          RIGHT. 
          I SEE THREE NODDING. 
          DO I HAVE FOUR NODDING? SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU DO. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT IS THAT BOTH BILLS, LET'S SEE, SB 10 27 AND SB 1167. 
          WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE, COUNSELOR? SOMEBODY'S SAYING, UM, DID WE, UH, EVER LOOK AT SB 10 90? LET MUNICIPAL TAX, UH, FOOD EXEMPTIONS, IT'S A STRIKE. 
          EVERYTHING. 
          IT WOULD PROHIBIT CITIES, TOWNS, AND OTHER LOCAL TAXING JURISDICTIONS IN ARIZONA FROM IMPOSING A TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TAX OR SIMILAR TAX ON FOOD AND OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR PURCHASE, UM, WITH SNAP. 
          UM, I WOULD WANNA OPPOSE THAT. 
          WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT DO? WE HAVE A TAX ON FOOD. 
          IT'S NOT ALLOWING SNAP RE RECIPIENTS TO PURCHASE CERTAIN TYPES OF FOOD. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, KATHY CINON, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT BILL? UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT ONE. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PARTISAN BILL, UH, FROM WHAT I SEE ON HERE. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT, THIS COULD BE GEARING UP FOR A, UH, TO BE VETOED. 
          UM, ESSENTIALLY IF IT STAYS AS A PARTISAN BILL. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN FOOD. 
          UM, SO ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, THERE IS A LEGISLATIVE REFERRAL TO PROHIBIT, UM, CITIES FROM CHARGING ANY FOOD TAX. 
          AND THERE'S A STUDY COMMITTEE ON SUGARY DRINKS. 
          AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON FOOD, ON BEVERAGES OR ON, OR I SHOULD SAY, ON FOOD AND TAXES AND WHAT CERTAIN PEOPLE CAN HAVE OR NOT. 
          UM, BUT THIS ONE STRIKES ME AS KIND OF IN THAT, UM, MAYBE MAHA STRAIN OF, UH, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BASICALLY EAT MORE NUTRITIONAL FOOD. 
          UM, SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD, I I DIDN'T FOLLOW THIS ONE. 
          I DIDN'T SEE THIS ONE IN COMMITTEE. 
          SO OTHER THAN TRYING TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, BETTER FOOD HABITS, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE COME DOWN TO A PARTISAN NATURE ON THIS BILL. 
          TO ME, THIS IS A LOCAL CONTROL ISSUE AS WELL, UM, BECAUSE IT'S RESTRICTING A MUNICIPALITY'S ABILITY TO, FOR A TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TAX. 
          UM, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF TAXES ON FOOD, UH, ESPECIALLY LIKE FOOD FROM SUPERMARKET. 
          YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. 
          I DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL. 
          BUT THERE'S A CONFLICTING IDEA HERE OF, OF, OF A LOCAL CONTROL. 
          UM, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS IS RECOMMENDING AN OPPOSED POSITION ON THIS. 
          AND THEY SAY THE CHANGE REPLACES CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT ONLY BARS LOCAL TPT ON FOOD PURCHASE USING SNAP AND WIC BENEFITS WITH A BROADER BAN BASED ON ELIGIBILITY FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. IT COULD AFFECT MUNICIPAL TAX COLLECTIONS, APPLY RETROACTIVELY TO TAXABLE PERIODS BEGINNING AFTER THE GENERAL EFFECTIVE DATE AND INCLUDES TECHNICAL UPDATES. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SEE FOOD TAXED, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS BILL IS A SOUND BILL. 
          I AGREE. 
          NOT SEEING ANYTHING. 
          I AGREE. 
          I I JUST SOMETIMES WONDER SOME OF THE ONES YOU RAISE, SPEAKING TO THE MIC PLEASE. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SOME OF THE ONES YOU RAISED, I JUST QUESTION WHETHER IT'S A CITY, 
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UM, ISSUE AS OPPOSED TO JUST A CITIZEN ISSUE. 
          WELL, I SEE A LOCAL CONTROL ASPECT TO IT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TAKEN ON. 
          I, I, YOU KNOW, AND SAID WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR US. 
          THAT IS THE LINK THAT I'M MAKING TO IT BEING AN ISSUE FOR US TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS ANY MUNICIPALITY AND TAKES LOCAL CONTROL WOULD EVENTUALLY AFFECT OUR ABILITY ON LOCAL CONTROL. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I WOULD JUST ADD THERE'S A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT HAVE SIGNED IN OPPOSED TO THE, TO THE BILL. 
          HANG ON. 
          'CAUSE THE NEXT ONE'S GONNA DO THE SAME THING. 
          I GUESS IF THE LEAGUE TAKES A POSITION, IT RELATES TO CITIES AND TOWNS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE POSING IT. 
          AND I HAVE ONE MORE, I'M JUST WAITING. 
          GOOD. 
          CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME THE NUMBER OF THAT AS WELL? THAT IS SB 10 90. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT ONE IS SB 1431, WHICH PROHIBITS WOULD PROHIBIT A MUNICIPALITY FROM REQUIRING THE CREATION OF A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, SHARED AMENITIES, GATED ACCESS, OR OTHER PERIMETER ENCLOSURES AS A CONDITION OF SUBDIVISION OR DEVELOPMENT, EXCEPT AS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW, PROHIBITS A MUNICIPALITY FROM ADOPTING OR ENFORCING DESIGN ARCHITECTURAL OR AESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, INCLUDING REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO MATERIALS, COLORS, FACADES, LAYOUTS, GARAGES, FENCES OR SIMILAR FEATURES. 
          PROHIBITS A MUNICIPALITY FROM DENYING OR CONDITIONING A PERMIT BASED ON PROHIBITED DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. 
          PRESERVES THE APPLICABILITY OF BUILDING CODES, FIRE CODES, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS, MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS, DARK SKY ORDINANCES. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS TO ME, UH, REDUCING LOCAL CONTROL AND AGAIN, TAKING AWAY, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, ABILITY FROM MUNICIPALITIES. 
          DID THE LEAGUE TAKE POSITION ON THIS ONE? THE LEAGUE HAS A POSITION RECOMMENDING OPPOSE. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. 
          UM, KATHY MANN, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INSIGHT ON THIS BILL? UM, OTHER THAN THE LEGISLATURE GENERALLY HATES HOAS. 
          UM, NO. 
          ALONG WITH CITIES, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT POSES THE CORRECT POSITION FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY ON THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE POSING. 
          YEAH, I SEE US. 
          I'M DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE, LAUREN? NO, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GETTING TO THE END EVERYBODY. 
          DID DEREK HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO RAISE? NO, I'M JUST YAWNING. 
          THANKS KATHY. 
          HE, HE RAISED HIS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LAUREN. 
          AB 30 66 
          [9.g. AB 3066 Discussion/possible action regarding future meeting/agenda items.]
DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING CHARLOTTE? IT'S NOT A NEW AGENDA ITEM, BUT THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COUNTY ROAD AND THE CITY ROAD. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN AGENDAS YET, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF IT COULD BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE TAKE, UH, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR SO THAT IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF IT, IT COULD BE, UM, AND SHOULD WE WISH TO, IT COULD BE REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET. 
          YEAH, WE WERE LOOKING AT AN APRIL DATE FOR THAT. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT SCHEDULED ON THE, UM, OFFICIAL AGENDA YET BECAUSE WE NEED TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE, UH, ADOPTION OF A BUDGET AND REVIEW OF BUDGET. 
          YES. 
          THE ADOPTION OF YOUR BUDGET HAPPENS IN MAY. 
          AND JIM? YEAH. 
          ARE YOU GOOD THEN? YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          DEREK, ACTUALLY ONE THING, I THINK I ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS. 
          UM, BUT SHOULD WE AGENDIZE DISCUSSION OF WHETHER WE POSTPONE DISCUSSION OF A LETTER OF INTENT WITH SCP 2.0 UNTIL WE HAVE OUR SURVEY RESULTS BACK? OR WOULD THAT END UP ON THE SAME AGENDA AS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LETTER OF INTENT WITH THE SCP 2.0? SO, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS AN AGENDA IS FOR DISCUSSION. 
          SO THE, YOU NEED TO PROPOSE ON AT WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN, COUNCILLOR FAF, AND THEN SEE IF YOU GET TWO PEOPLE TO SUPPORT YOU ON PUTTING IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. 
          I THINK I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID ALSO. 
          YEAH, I DIDN'T, WE HAVE AN ITEM SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 10TH REGARDING CULTURAL PARK TWO POINT OH'S REQUEST FOR A LETTER OF INTENT FROM THE COUNCIL. 
          AND I BELIEVE COUNSELOR 
          [03:40:01]
F IS ASKING IF THERE'S SUPPORT TO AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER TO CHANGE THAT DATE UNTIL WE HAVE OUR SURVEY RESULTS WE JUST APPROVED MOVING FORWARD ON A SURVEY. 
          SO ARE WE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE? I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? I'D LIKE TO AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION OF THAT AND MAYBE WE WAIT, CAN WE DISCUSS IT? NO, WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT NOW, SO NO, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS IZING IT, BUT THE BOND OR THE POLLING QUESTIONS ISN'T THAT ON FEBRUARY 24TH? SO FEBRUARY 24TH? YES. 
          IT'S THE PACKET THAT'S COMING OUT NEXT HAS THE SURVEY QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND APPROVE SO WE CAN START THE PROCESS AND THAT TAKES ROUGHLY 30 DAYS OR SO. 
          SO IT'D BE THE MONTH OF MARCH THAT IT'S BEING CONDUCTED. 
          AND WHEN IS THE LETTER OF INTENT WITH SCP 2.0 ON THE AGENDA? MARCH 10TH. 
          MARCH WHAT? 10TH THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. 
          THE OTHER OPTION IS WHEN YOU GET TO THAT ITEM ON THE MARCH 10TH AGENDA, YOU COULD PROCEDURALLY TABLE IT TO A FUTURE DATE. 
          UH, PERSONALLY I WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT, BUT I DON'T BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE COME PREPARED TO SPEAK AND THEN YOU TABLE IT. 
          I WOULD RATHER WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. 
          DO WELL, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION NOW. 
          BUT I GUESS I AM ASKING THAT WE AGENDIZE THE DISCUSSION ON WHETHER TO POSTPONE THE DISCUSSION WITH SCP 2.0 UNTIL WE HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY. 
          NOT THE QUESTIONS, THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY, BUT TO BE IZING IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE PACKET BEING PREPARED RIGHT NOW IS, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS A REQUEST TO PUT IT ON THE FEBRUARY 24TH AGENDA. 
          THAT TOPIC INSTEAD OF THE MARCH 10TH. 
          NO, ON BOTH. 
          YOU WANT IT ON BOTH MEETINGS? I WANT ON WHATEVER GIVES THE OTHER PARTIES ADEQUATE NOTICE THAT, YEAH, MAYBE IT'S NOT TIME ADEQUATE NOTICE TO, I MEAN I, I SHARE HER CONCERN. 
          PEOPLE SHOW UP TO A MEETING EXPECTING A DISCUSSION ON SOMETHING AND THEN WE SAY, OH BY THE WAY, WE'RE GONNA TABLE IT. 
          IF THERE'S A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT BEFOREHAND, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT IF THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT, THE ONLY MEETING WOULD BE THE 24TH. 
          FEBRUARY 24TH. 
          SO THERE'S, DO WE HAVE TWO EXTRAS THAT WANNA PUT IT ON THE 24TH? THE TOPIC THAT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 10TH? WELL, THE TOPIC WOULD BE TO RESCHEDULE THE ITEM THAT'S ON MARCH 10TH. 
          JOANNE'S SHAKING HER HEAD HAND TOO. 
          SO NOT TO DO THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION , WE HAVE TO AGENDIZE THAT FOR CONVERSATION. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT FALLS WITHIN THE AGENDA SETTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY MANAGER TO IT DOES, BUT COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THAT BY MAJORITY VOTE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THE COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED THAT THIS BE DONE PREVIOUSLY, SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS MY AUTHORITY TO CHANGE A COUNCIL DIRECTION WITHOUT THE DIRECTION OF THE CO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S YOUR ITEM. 
          DON'T GET IT. 
          PROCEDURALLY, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A, A PROPOSAL TO PUT IT ON FEBRUARY 24TH. 
          DO WE HAVE TWO SECONDS? I GUESS. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT. 
          CAN WE NOT GIVE DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER? YOU CAN ONCE IT'S AGENDIZED YOU CAN GIVE ANY DIRECTION COUNSEL WANTS BECAUSE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE SOMEONE WANTED TO CHANGE THE MEETING, BUT WE COULDN'T DO THAT DURING THE UPCOMING MEETING'S AGENDA ITEM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          I STILL DON'T HEAR ANY SECONDS, SO WELL GO AHEAD, REPEAT YOURSELF. 
          WHAT WAS YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AGAIN? I'M SORRY. 
          MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WAS TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO DO IT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO AGENDA IS IT? OKAY? BUT THEY SAID I COULDN'T DO IT, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT CAN I ASK A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          IF IT GETS AGENDIZED FOR DISCUSSION AT THAT FEBRUARY DATE, IS THERE TIME WHEN WE HAVE THAT TO AFFECT THAT? ANYTHING FOR THE MARCH? YES, THERE'S ENOUGH TIME THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THEN I'LL SECOND YOU . 
          DO, DOES ANYBODY NEED ME TO REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME? YEAH, PLEASE. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO AGENDIZE FOR THE FEBRUARY, 2020 FOURTH, 24TH MEETING, A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER TO REMOVE FROM THE MARCH 10 AGENDA DISCUSSION WITH SCP 2.0 UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY BACK. 
          I WILL SECOND THAT. 
          SO DO WE SAY POSTPONE? 
          [03:45:01]
I PROBABLY POSTPONE. 
          I JUST, I I WANT TO SEE THE SURVEY RESULTS BEFORE WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          KURT, CUT ME OFF IF I'M GETTING A LOT. 
          OH, THAT'S FINE. 
          UM, I JUST, WE HAVE ONE SECOND. 
          WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ONE IF TO CHANGE IT. 
          SURE. 
          I'LL, I'LL THIRD IT. 
          . 
          OKAY, SO THAT'S THREE. 
          IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 24TH AS PHRASED BY COUNCILOR FAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          MEETING ADJOURNED.
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