* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YEAH. OKAY. [00:00:01] I'M RECORDING. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU [Sedona Charter School Governing Council Joint Meeting on April 20, 2026.] EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. UM, WE WERE HERE LAST TIME, SO WE'LL KEEP THE AGENDA THE SAME AS IT WAS FOR THE OTHER MEETINGS. SO ESSENTIALLY WE'LL DO SOME WELCOMES AND INTRODUCTIONS REAL QUICK. UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THE BATHROOMS ARE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR AND THERE'S WATER, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE AND RIGHT THERE. UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER KURT'S NOT GONNA BE HERE. SO CHARLOTTE OR COUNSELOR? . COUNSELOR. CHARLOTTE IS CHARLOTTE, WHATEVER YOU WANT. OKAY. OKAY. I NEVER KNOW. UM, CHARLOTTE WILL GO OVER THE GOALS AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE, AND THEN, UM, COUNSELOR DON WILL GO OVER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK THE OTHER SCHOOL BOARD. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY WHAT YOU EXPERIENCING AT YOUR SCHOOLS. AND THEN WE'LL DO THE, THE SAME THING WE DID LAST TIME, WHICH IS NOTE DOWN, YOUR IDEAS UNDER HAS POTENTIAL NEEDS FOR RESEARCH AND PROBABLY NOT. AND THEN, UM, CHARLOTTE WILL GO OVER NEXT. SO LET'S JUST GO AROUND AND DO INTRODUCTIONS REAL QUICK. LET'S JUST START WITH YOU AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO CIRCLE. I'M RICKY KELVIN. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE GOVERNING COUNCIL AT CIDONA CHARTER. AMY FOLAND. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT SEDONA CHARTER SCHOOL. I'M MARCY GARNER. I'M THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK FOR SEDONA. OH, MELISSA DUNN, COUNSELOR CHARLOTTE HOSSAINI COUNSELOR. AND COULD YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME? C-O-B-B-A-N. OKAY. I WOULDN'T HAVE GUESS THAT ONE. ? YES. YOU'LL SHOW UP IN A MEMO. I JUST SPELL IT CORRECTLY. WE'RE ON THE COAST MOSTLY . OKAY. AND I'M KEGAN, THE PUBLIC RELATIONS ANALYST. I'M SORRY, MY VOICE IS ON A HIATUS OF SIX ALL LAST WEEK, BUT I FEEL GOOD NOW. , AND YOU'RE DOWN AT THAT END. I'M REALLY FAR AWAY. JUST IN CASE YOU'RE SCARED. OKAY. UH, GO AHEAD, CHARLOTTE. AWAY. OKAY. SO, UM, I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS A REPEAT OF WHAT YOU HEARD LAST WEEK, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN FIND SOME COMMON GROUND TO HELP THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. IT MAY NEED TO BE ALL SCHOOLS AND ALL CHILDREN, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY'RE SCHOOLED. UM, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON A TIGHT TIMELINE 'CAUSE OF THE, THE BUDGET, UH, DECISIONS THIS WEEK. YEAH. THIS WEEK. RIGHT. SO, UM, REALLY WE HAVE SOME, WE MET WITH KURT EARLIER, UM, BEFORE WE STARTED ANY OF THIS TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FRAMEWORK WAS LEGALLY OF WHAT THE CITY CAN DO AND CAN'T DO. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IN GENERAL, WHAT, UH, WHAT THINGS THAT THE CITY ALREADY PROVIDES, LIKE THINGS WE ALREADY DO, LIKE MAINTENANCE, UM, COULD BE EXTENDED TO SCHOOLS THROUGH SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIP. UM, WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS BY STATUTE IS DIRECTLY PAY SALARIES OR A SRS UNFORTUNATELY. UM, SO SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE'RE HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE YOU HAVE SOME NEEDS THAT WE CAN HELP WITH. AND, AND THAT'S JUST THE, THAT'S THE GOAL FOR TODAY. SO. WELL, KEGAN ACTUALLY ALREADY ASKED YOU THE QUESTIONS. I'M, THAT SAYS MY NAME. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. YOU GUYS , UM, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT ARE YOU EXPERIENCING KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES BY STATE LAW? WHAT ARE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH? UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, WE WITH, UH, OAK CREEK, YOU WERE HERE. UM, OBVIOUSLY AMY, SHE WAS RIGHT OVER THERE, UM, BEING VERY QUIET. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE, UM, INVESTIGATE HELPING THEM WITH THEIR FIELDS, RIGHT? WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSION, IT COULD BE USED FOR PUBLIC REASONS TO EXTEND THEIR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM WITH PARKS AND RECS PROGRAMS SO THAT THERE'S MORE THINGS FOR KIDS TO DO AFTER SCHOOL WHOSE PARENTS CAN'T PICK THEM UP RIGHT AWAY. SO THOSE WERE TWO BIG PIECES WHERE WE SAID, YES, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. WE TALKED ABOUT EXPLORING IN THE FUTURE A MENTORING PROGRAM. IN MY MIND, IT'S SORT OF LIKE BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS, BUT ACADEMICALLY ORIENTED AS OPPOSED TO FUN ORIENTED. HOPEFULLY SOME KIDS FIND ACADEMICS FUN. I ALWAYS DID. SO, UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. AND THEN CHARLOTTE GAVE YOU A SORT OF A HEADS UP, LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S INSIDE THE AUTHORITY OF THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES BY STATE LAW, WE CANNOT TOUCH. YEAH. SO BASICALLY IT SOUNDED LIKE, AND WE'RE PARAPHRASING KURT, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS THE SAFEST THING TO DO. NOT YEAH, NO [00:05:01] . BUT, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN'T RUN A, WE HAVE, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO FOR OURSELF. IF, IF, IF THE STATUTE DOESN'T SPEAK TO IT, IT DOES NOT MEAN NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS. IT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY. SO THERE HAS TO BE AUTHORITY FOR US TO DO THE KINDS OF PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY DOES, AND THEN BY EXTENSION, PERHAPS TO YOU. BUT, BUT THAT NOT SPEAKING TO, UH, DIRECT FUNDING THE SCHOOLS MEANS WE CAN'T DO IT. SO IT'S KIND OF THE ABSENCE OF IT, BUT DON'T TAKE THINGS OFF THE TABLE EITHER. RIGHT. SINCE KURT'S NOT HERE, WE REALLY NEED A LEGAL INVESTIGATION. AND SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, WHAT DID WE HAVE? UM, IT'LL BE MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT KURT CANNOT BE HERE TO ADDRESS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT KURT HAS LOOKED AT AND WE DON'T MAKE ANY DECISION ON, ON THAT AT ALL. AND THEN WE ARE UNDER A TIME CRUNCH. THE FIRST DAY OF BUDGET IS WEDNESDAY, AND THE LAST DAY OF BUDGET IS THURSDAY. YEAH. SO, UM, BUT THIS IS THE, THIS IS NO PRESSURE, BUT UNDER UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT THIS, BUT THESE BUDGET DECISIONS ARE NOT FINAL IN MAY. WE, WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE, HAVE IT SET BY THE, I THINK IT'S THE END OF MAY. IS THAT RIGHT? I'M LOOKING AT END OF MAY IS PROPOSED AND THEN, AND THEN JUNE IS, IS FINAL. AND ONCE, ONCE IT'S SEALED IN, IN JUNE AND ADOPTED, IT CANNOT BE CHANGED. AND THEN I THINK EVEN WHEN IT IS, WHEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS APPROVED, IT CAN'T GO OVER THAT. RIGHT? IT CAN'T GO OVER IT. WE WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT THINGS AROUND. BUT ONCE WE GET TO, ONCE WE GET TO, UM, JUNE, THAT'S OUR BUDGET. AND ALL WE CAN DO THEN IS MOVE CONTINGENCIES AROUND, WHICH IS WHY YOU'LL SEE WE USUALLY HAVE LARGE CONTINGENCIES IN EACH GROUP. UM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE CAN MOVE AROUND, UM, WITHOUT COMMITTING. THEY'RE NOT COMMITTED TO ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR. SO, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR CHALLENGES AND HOW CAN WE HELP? MAYBE? SO I, I PUT SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TOGETHER JUST TO INTRODUCE WHO WE ARE. UM, SO WE'RE A SMALL CAMPUS. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 115 STUDENTS, RANGING FROM THREE YEARS OLD THROUGH GRADE SIX. UM, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WE, UM, HAVE ELIMINATED OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND PUT IN A PRESCHOOL. THE MAJORITY OF OUR FAMILIES ARE SINGLE PARENTS OR DIVORCED. UM, THIS YEAR WE STARTED WITH ONE HOMELESS FAMILY AND THEY MOVED IN NOVEMBER. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE NO HOMELESS STUDENTS. UM, THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE REGISTERED WHO ARE, UM, LISTED AS MCKINNEY BENTO. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL FIND HOUSING BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS, BUT IF NOT, WE WILL BE SUPPORTING THOSE FAMILIES. UM, AND WE HAVE A VERY SMALL, UM, PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE ON OUR CAMPUS. UM, RIGHT NOW I THINK WE HAVE FOUR STUDENTS WHO ARE ESL. WE ARE A MONTESSORI SCHOOL, MEANING THAT OUR CLASSROOMS ARE MULTI-AGE AND WE USE A VERY HANDS ON CURRICULUM. UM, OUR MAIN USES OF TECHNOLOGY ARE ASSESSMENTS, TESTING, AND RESEARCH. THEY'RE NOT ON COMPUTERS. THE STUDENTS ARE NOT ON COMPUTERS ALL DAY LONG. WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE STRINGS PROGRAM IN WHICH STUDENTS STARTING FROM KINDERGARTEN LEARN A STRINGED INSTRUMENT. TYPICALLY THE VIOLIN, UM, LIKE THE DISTRICT, WE DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH AS LITTLE MONEY AS POSSIBLE. UM, OUR BUDGET USUALLY INCREASES, OR THE MONEY THAT WE GET USUALLY INCREASES BY 2% AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOES BY, GOES UP. OUR COSTS GO UP BY LARGER PERCENTAGES THAN THAT. UM, MANY STAFF MEMBERS ON OUR CAMPUS WEAR MANY HATS. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE PERSON WHO JUST IS WRITING GRANTS OR ONE PERSON, UM, DOING MARKETING. YOU KNOW, IT SLIDES SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE DOING MARKETING DEPENDING ON THE DAY, OR MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HANDS IN WRITING GRANTS. UM, WE GREATLY, GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TRY TO PARTNER WITH YOU. UM, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY DO NOT VALUE EDUCATION OR FEEL THAT IT'S A WORTHWHILE CAUSE. I STRONGLY DISAGREE. OUR SCHOOL IS A MAGICAL PLACE OF TEACHING AND GROWTH AND LEARNING. UM, SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY WALKED ON CAMPUS AND WHAT DID THEY SAY? OH, YOU SAID IT LIKE, [00:10:01] I FEEL LIKE THIS IS TO TOWN. LIKE IT'S A HAPPY PLACE. THE KIDS ARE HAPPY, THE STAFF IS HAPPY. UM, WE EXPECT OUR STUDENTS TO BE MEMBERS OF OUR SCHOOL COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. AND THEY'RE BECOMING THE ADULTS OF TOMORROW. SO WE DO NEED TO INVEST IN 'EM. UM, I DID MAKE A LIST OF THINGS THAT COULD PO THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE HELP WITH. UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS ABOUT WHAT IS ALLOWABLE AND WHAT IS NOT. SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA START GOING DOWN MY LIST, IF THAT'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE TEACHER HOUSING LAST AT OUR, AT THE MEETING THAT I WAS AT, I HEARD HOUSING. WE DO HAVE TEACHER HOUSING ON OUR CAMPUS. WE HAVE A COTTAGE AND WE HAVE A TINY HOUSE. UM, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE. WE HAVE A FEW MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR BOTH OF THOSE, UM, FOR BOTH OF THOSE RENTAL PROPERTIES. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. SO YOU NEED TO PUT THAT ON. NEEDS MORE RESEARCH PLEASE. AND COULD, COULD YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF LIKE, ONE OF THEM NEEDS, UM, A NEW INTERIOR DOOR AND SOME SCREEN DOORS AND I ESTIMATED IT'S PROBABLY A $300 EXPENSE. AND THEN ONE OF OUR TINY HOUSE REALLY NEEDS THE DECK TO BE WORKED ON AND A GATE TO BE PUT IN. UM, IT'S A, IT'S A, I MEAN, IT IS TI IT'S A TINY HOUSE, SO IT'S VERY SMALL. UM, AND THEN IN THE KITCHEN WE NEED SOME MORE SHELVING TO MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL. AND I ESTIMATED THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A TWO, A 20, $200 EXPENSE FOR ALL OF THAT WORK TO BE DONE ON THE TINY HOUSE. SO ABOUT 2200 FOR THE TINY HOUSE. AND ABOUT DO YOU HAVE 300, 300 FOR THE COTTAGE? LAST YEAR WE PUT ALL NEW WINDOWS IN THE COTTAGE. IT WAS DESPERATELY NEEDED. UM, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM. THE SECOND ITEM IS THAT WE HAVE A PERFORMING ARTS CLASSROOM. IT IS NOT AS LARGE AS THE SPAC BY ANY MEANS. IT IS A MUCH SMALLER, IT'S A CLASSROOM, BUT WE DO, UM, THERE ARE COMMUNITY GROUPS WHO USE IT. UM, WE ALLOWED THE GROUP THAT WAS FILMING WEIRD DETENTION, WHICH WAS A MOVIE THAT WAS MADE HERE, THEY CAME IN AND THEY, THEY USED, UM, OUR SPACE TO FILM THEIR PROJECT, UM, AND SOME OTHER SPACES ON OUR CAMPUS. UM, AND ALSO THE SEDONA YOUTH ORCHESTRA, UM, USES THAT EVERY SATURDAY FREE OF CHARGE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD, UM, IT REALLY NEEDS A LIGHTING SYSTEM. IT HAS A LIGHTING SYSTEM THAT IS NOT OPERATIONAL AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY PURCHASED AN APP THAT GOES ON AN IPAD. AND I'VE HAD ELECTRICIANS LOOK AT IT. I'VE HAD MY MAINTENANCE PERSON LOOK AT IT, I'VE LOOKED AT IT, I'VE HAD TECH GUYS LOOK AT IT. WE CANNOT MAKE IT WORK. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE APP ACTUALLY EXISTS ANY LONGER. LIKE THERE'S NO SUPPORT FOR IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A POSSIBILITY SINCE IT IS USED BY THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE PUBLIC PART OF IT THAT SEEMS TO MAKE IT MORE POSSIBLE. UM, AND YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE? YES, YES. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY. AND WHEN WE HAVE, UM, LIKE WE JUST DID OUR TALENT SHOW AND WE HAD SOME, UM, HOMESCHOOL KIDS WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR TALENT SHOW, WHICH IS TOTALLY, TOTALLY FINE. AND WE HAD, UM, IN YEARS PAST, WE'VE DONE MORE OF LIKE A COMPETITION. UM, AND WHEN WE DO PERFORM, WE DO A FALL PERFORMANCE THAT WE HAD RUNNING RIVER KIDS INVOLVED IN IT AND, UM, SOME WEST SEDONA KIDS. SO IT'S BEEN OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY SURE. HAS POTENTIAL, DON'T YOU THINK? UM, YEAH, I THINK SO. I WOULD, I WOULD PUT HIS NEEDS MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE IT'S INSIDE OF A PRIVATE BUILDING. IT'S NOT A PARKS AND RECS SPACE. I WOULD JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT THAT WOULD NOT DISQUALIFY IT. YEAH. WELL I MEAN I THINK ALL OF IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GET RUN THROUGH KURT, WHICHEVER CATEGORY WE PUT IT IN RIGHT NOW. OKAY. I MEAN, YEAH, I'M JUST, YEAH, THAT ONE I'M JUST, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING NOT IN A PUBLIC SPACE [00:15:01] EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEING USED FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE USING THE HUB OR YOU WANT TO USE THE HUB OR ANY OF THE SPACES THAT ARE OUR PUBLIC SPACES. I JUST REALLY WOULD WANT KURT TO SURE. BUT IF PUT PUTTING HAS POTENTIAL IS FINE, BUT EVERYTHING'S GONNA HAVE TO GO PAST KURT. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT IS A PERFORMANCE CLASSROOM LIGHTING. YEAH. UPGRADE IT. YES. OKAY. IT'S, IT IS CALLED THE PATH, WE CALL IT THE PACK PERFORMING ARTS CLASSROOM. NOT THE SPAC THE PACK, NOT THE SPAC. I KNOW IT'S VERY CONFUSING TO SOME PEOPLE . UM, AND IT NEEDS, LIKE, WE HAVE THE LIGHTS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN PLACE. IT'S JUST THAT FOR NOT GET THEM TO OPERATE . YEAH. AND I THINK IF YOU, THE NOTE THAT NEEDS TO GO TO KURT IS THAT THIS IS BEING USED BY THE, THE SYMPHONY TO ORCHESTRA THE KIDS. YES, YES. KIDS ORCHESTRA. I MEAN, WE SHOULD JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S THE LIST OF ALL THE PUBLIC USES OF THE SPACE. JUST SO IT'S CLEAR, IT IS A PUBLIC USE IN THAT KIDS ARE KIDS CAN COME FROM HOMESCHOOLING OR RUNNING RIVER FOR SOME OF THE, UM, KIDS PERFORMING ARTS PIECES. YES. WHICH WOULD BE YOUR TALENT SHOW. AND, AND THEN YOU'RE THE PLAY THE BALL PLAY OR MUSICAL OR WHATEVER THEY'RE WE HAVE GOING ON. AND THE KIDS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE FALL PLAY. I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE THERE. THEY'RE REALLY INTO IT. YEAH. OKAY. UM, THE THIRD THING, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE ALLOWABLE, UM, BUT I WAS ASKED BY SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO PUT IT ON THE LIST. , BECAUSE IT'S A HOT TOPIC AT OUR SCHOOL, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IS WE HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM THAT HAS AN ISSUE. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT. THE FIRE SPRINKLERS, THE FIRE SPRINKLER SPRINKLERS, THEY SOLVED INCORRECTLY. YEAH. AND THEY'RE, THEY BLEW OUT AND FLOODED THE CLASSROOM AT ONE POINT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING IN THE ENTIRE REST OF THE SCHOOL. AND OUR OPTIONS ARE LIMITED WITHOUT TEARING THE SCHOOL DOWN AND REBUILDING AN ENTIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM. SO, UH, BUT IT'S AN EXPENSIVE FIX, UH, TO GET STOP RUST. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD NEED TO BE DONE THIS FENCE? UH, THERE'S TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THIS MEETING. UH, THERE'S ONE, UM, IT'S LIKE A CHEMICAL TREATMENT TO STOP. THERE'S LIKE A MICROBIAL SITUATION THAT'S CREATING MORE RUST. SO IT BASICALLY, IT BLOCKS THE MICROBES WILL CREATING MORE RUST SO THAT IT WEAKENS THE PIPES AND IT BLOWS OUT. UM, THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO BACK TO THE SYSTEM'S DRY RIGHT NOW, BUT IT GETS COMPENSATION IN IT, WHICH IS CAUSING THE RUST. THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO BACK TO A WET SYSTEM THAT JUST FLOODS THE WHOLE ALL THE PIPES AND KEEPS THE AIR OUT SO THAT, AND HOPEFULLY IT JUST WORKS FROM THE OTHER SIDE. HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T FREEZE. RIGHT. OTHER OF DAMAGE WE HAVE TO PUT ANTIFREEZE IN IT, WHICH IS PART OF THE EXPENSE OF IT. BUT DID YOU SAY THAT, UM, YOU'RE VOTING ON IT THIS WEEK, YOUR BOARD? UH, YEAH, WE'RE WHICH ONE TO DO, BUT WE HAVE TO DO ONE OF THEM. UM, AND IS THAT BEFORE THURSDAY? YES, IT'S TOMORROW. OH, TOMORROW. OKAY. SO COULD YOU LET US KNOW WHICH ROUTE YOUR BOARD PREFERS TO TAKE? YEAH. MM-HMM . AND WE CAN MM-HMM . YEAH. THIS IS THE MANDATED SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THE SCHOOL FOR INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY. AND DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE TWO OPTIONS? UH, IT'S EITHER GONNA BE 8,000 OR 25,000 RAINFALL. YEAH. YEAH. LET ME GUESS WHICH ONE THEY MIGHT CHOOSE. YEAH. . WELL YOU NEVER KNOW . YEAH. WELL, INITIAL REACTION THAT TEAMS AND THE EIGHT IS THE SPRAY THING AND THE 25 IS THE WATER. YEAH. YEAH. 25 TO GO BACK TO A WET SYSTEM. YEAH. AND FREEZE. AND THE OTHER SYSTEM IS CALLED A, A VAPOR PRESSURE SYSTEM. AND IT, IT PRETTY MUCH PUMPS LIKE AN INHIBITOR INTO THE PIPES. SO IT'S, UM, HOPEFULLY GOING TO STOP THE CORROSION. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, WE FLOODED, SO THAT DREW A BUNCH OF RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE SCHOOLS. EXPENSIVE TO FIX. WE LOST BOOKS AND, AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. AND, UM, IT'S A MANDATED SYSTEM WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THERE. SO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO IT OR IT'S JUST GONNA BLOW OUT AGAIN. THE, THE WHOLE, THE OTHER CLASSROOMS ARE ALL ON THE SAME LINES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE WITH THE SAME ISSUES. SO IT'S NOT AN INSURANCE ISSUE. NO INSURANCE WON'T COVER THE LINES. IT ONLY COVERED THE CEILING , IT WON'T COVER THE SOURCE OF THE DAMAGE. IT WILL ONLY COVER THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE INCIDENT. RIGHT. UM, SO THEY WON'T PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. THEY'LL EVENTUALLY PROBABLY JUST DROP US INSTEAD CONTINUING TO PAY FOR THE CLASSROOM OVER AND OVER. GOTCHA. SO JUST, THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE REMEMBERS. SO THE CDBG GRANT THAT WENT TO FOR VALLEY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. YEAH. WAS IT, [00:20:01] WAS THAT RESIDENTIAL ONLY? LIKE WOULD THESE TWO HOMES BE CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL? COULD THEY REACH OUT TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR REPAIRS TO THE COTTAGE AND THE TINY HOME? I RECALL IT BEING A PROGRAM FOR WHICH YOU HAD TO QUALIFY SHOWING THAT YOU COULD MADE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OR LESS FINANCIAL NEEDS. OH, FINANCIAL NEEDS FINANCIAL. SEE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THE HABITAT, IF THROUGH THE CDBG GRANT HABITAT COULD COME IN AN ON, OH, IT WOULD ONLY BE YOUR HOUSES AAL. BUT IT'S A TOPIC, SO POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW. YEAH. THE QUALIFICATION COULD BE. YEAH. YEAH. PLUS THE TEACHERS. EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEACHER'S INCOMES, THEY'RE BASICALLY THE LANDLORD. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE IT, IT MIGHT BE A ROUTE TO INVESTIGATE FOR RESEARCH. AND WHO, WHO OWNS THAT AT THE CITY OR WOULD KNOW THE MOST? UM, WELL, I THINK IT WENT THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. NO, IT WENT THROUGH HOUSING. WENT THROUGH HOUSING. SO IT'D BE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. SO IT'D BE TONY RIGHT NOW. YEAH. THE PRIMARY CONTACT. BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S A NONPROFIT, THEY MIGHT QUALIFY. CORRECT. AND TEACHERS ARE LIVING THERE. SO YOU DO HAVE SEDONA RESIDENTS LIVING THERE. MM-HMM . I JUST, IT'D BE WORTH INVESTIGATING TO SEE IF THE CDBG GRANT, 'CAUSE I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY HAD MONEY LEFT OVER AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SPEND IT. SO IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT MIGHT NOT WORK. YEAH. ANY ROUTE WE CAN TAKE. YEAH, NO, IT'S A GREAT THOUGHT. DOESN'T SUSTAINABILITY HAVE LIKE A, OH, IT'S DIFFERENT. SO SUSTAINABILITY IS ABOUT, ISN'T ABOUT REPAIRS. SUSTAINABILITY IS ABOUT REPAIRS ONLY IN THE SENSE OF YOU'RE NOT WELL INSULATED OR WHATEVER TO LOWER HEATING COSTS AND COOLING COSTS. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT COLD WEATHER. YEAH. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING THAN WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED FROM WHAT I'M HEARING. SO SUSTAINABILITY, THAT PROGRAM WOULDN'T WORK FOR THIS. YEAH. THIS IS REPAIRS. OKAY. SO SPRINKLER NEEDS MORE RESEARCH DOES REDUCE WATER USE BY NOT DUMPING IT INTO THE CLASSROOM? IT DOES, IT DOESN'T, IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO GENERALLY WITH THE CITY OR WITH HOUSING OR ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE HOUSING YEAH, WE DO. SO IT'S JUST SOME OTHER WAY TO TRY TO HELP. IS THERE, UH, SOME OTHER WAY YEAH. THAT WE CAN DO THIS BECAUSE DIRECTLY IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S FIXING THE SCHOOL BUILDING, WHICH WE KNOW THERE'S A LAW. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A CASE, UM, AGAINST PEOPLE BUILDING, WANT CITIES WANTING TO COME IN AND LIKE HELP SCHOOLS BUILD BUILDINGS AND THINGS. AND THE ANSWER'S NO IN THE STATE. SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. IS THAT SLIDING INTO THE REPAIR OF THE MM-HMM . I WONDER IF THE FIRE DISTRICT BY CHANCE HAS SOME, WELL, THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROGRAM. HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY HAVE UM, THEY, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY, I MEAN THEY WERE AWARE OF THE INCIDENT, THE NEED, OBVIOUSLY. AND THEY WERE, I KIND OF GOT THE FEELING THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE HANDS OFF. OH, SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AFFILIATED KINDS OF PROGRAMS OR, RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. WELL LET US PONDER THAT ONE. I'LL REACH OUT TO TONY RIGHT NOW WHILE YOU'RE, OKAY. GREAT. SO, BECAUSE YEAH, IF WE COULD FIX AT LEAST THE TWO HOUSES THROUGH THE CDBG GRANT, THAT I THINK COULD GET YOU THAT WORK DONE MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN US TRYING TO HELP. JUST, JUST SEEING. UM, OKAY. BUT YOU'RE OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER, THE SPRINKLER STUFF, YOU DON'T SEE IT AS A-C-D-B-G? NO. NO. OKAY. NO. 'CAUSE IT'S ABOUT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. THIS IS IN THE SCHOOL. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THE PROBLEM IS IT'S IN THE SCHOOL, IT'S PART OF THE SCHOOL'S INFRASTRUCTURE MM-HMM . AND THEREFORE I THINK KURT'S GONNA SAY THAT'S, THAT'S REPAIRING THE SCHOOL AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO MAINTENANCE ON SCHOOLS. MM-HMM . SO THAT ONE I THINK WILL BE PROBABLY NOT, UM, I COULD BE WRONG. A LAWYER STILL UP. I KNOW. AND THERE'S LOTS OF, I'M SURE THERE'S LIKE LITTLE, THERE'S NUANCES, I'M SURE. DETAILS FOR ALL OF THOSE LAWS AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE, AND HE'S HAVING A GOOD TIME APPARENTLY HAVING TO RESEARCH ALL THESE LAWS. IS HE? YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. SO HE SAID LAST TIME HE'S LEARNING SOMETHING TOO. UM, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR STRINGS PROGRAM? 'CAUSE I THINK OF ANIMATED BY THE ARTS, THE CITY AND, AND, UM, MAYBE SOME WAY SOME SUPPORT FOR THAT. [00:25:01] I DON'T KNOW. NO. 'CAUSE HE, HE EVEN SAID ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN'T DO IS BUY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS. NO, I KNOW. I, YEAH. NOT THAT NOT PURCHASE THE INSTRUMENTS, BUT, UM, SO I, I MAKE TRIPS. IS THAT CORRECT? THEY REPRESENT THE CITY. UM, WE HAVE IN THE PAST, UM, A LOT OF TIMES WITH OUR STRINGS, WELL, WITH OUR STRINGS PROGRAM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE, WE GET A STRONG GROUP OF PLAYERS AND THEN SOME OF THEM DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PLAY. AND SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE CONSTANTLY STARTING OVER AGAIN. SO WE ARE CHANGING THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS REQUI A REQUIREMENT FOR K THROUGH THIRD, AND THEN ONCE YOU GOT TO FOURTH GRADE, IT WAS OPTIONAL. WELL, THIS YEAR, UM, WE'VE ADDED FOURTH GRADE, OR ACTUALLY THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR, WE'VE ADDED FOURTH GRADE. AND SO NOW IT'S NOT OPTIONAL FOR FOURTH THROUGH, I MEAN, FOR K THROUGH FOURTH. AND THEN, BUT YOU GONNA, THE FOLLOWING SCHOOL YEAR, IT WILL NOT BE OPTIONAL. IT WILL NO LONGER BE OPTIONAL FOR FIFTH GRADERS. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR IT WILL NO LONGER BE OPTIONAL FOR SIXTH GRADERS. SO EVERYONE WILL BE PLAYING A STRING INSTRUMENT AT OUR SCHOOL. UM, I WAS WONDERING ACTUALLY, THAT'S MY NEXT, UM, LINE ITEM IS OUR VIOLIN PROGRAM OR OUR STRINGS PROGRAM. I WAS WONDERING IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T PURCHASE INSTRUMENTS. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF LIKE INSTRUMENT MAINTENANCE WAS A DIFFERENT, I SUSPECT IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME THING. I WOULD KIND OF THINK SO. UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A, IT'S A SCHOOL SPECIFIC PROGRAM. OKAY. NOT A PUBLIC PROGRAM. RIGHT. AND SO REMEMBERING WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLIC. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. IF THE STRENGTH PROGRAM WAS OPEN TO HOMESCHOOLED KIDS, WOULD THAT, I DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO DEFINITELY RESEARCH THAT I THINK BECOMES LIKE, CHANGE IT. I DON'T THAT WOULD CHANGE IT SIGNIFICANTLY THOUGH. IT, IT MIGHT CHANGE IT, BUT IT, I MEAN THE PURCHASE OF INSTRUMENTS AND REPAIR OF INSTRUMENTS WOULD STILL BE A YES OR A NO REGARDLESS OF TO WHOM IT'S OPEN. RIGHT? YEAH. UM, WHEN THE DISTRICT WAS HERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS MARKETING. MM-HMM . THAT ONE REALLY TAKES SOME MORE THOUGHT, BUT THEY KINDA LEFT US, LEFT US WITH THAT THOUGHT OF SOME SORT OF CO-MARKETING OR IN THE, NOT NECESSARILY TOURISM PROGRAM, BUT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WHAT, HOW THE CITY MARKETS, IF IF SCHOOL CHOICE AND THE VARIETY OF SCHOOLS AND THE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE AS THE SCHOOL COULD BE INCORPORATED SO MORE PEOPLE COULD SEE IT. IS THAT WHAT YOU GOT OUT OF THAT? YEAH. AND ACTUALLY THE TOURISM PROGRAM. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT ON THE NEW WEBSITE, THERE SHOULD BE A SECTION AROUND AMENITIES OF SEDONA. MM-HMM . EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE CITY. I THINK THAT ONE WAS A LITTLE IFER, BUT TOURISM FOR SURE, LIKE, IF PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE AND THEY REALLY LIKE THE PLACE, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE SCHOOLS. SO IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO HAVE THAT SOMEHOW LINKED WITH SEDONA? SO, AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF YOUR AREA OVER ERIC, SO I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY CROSSING THE LINE INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT THAT'S NOT A BAD THING. I I JUST, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT YET. YEAH. BUT IT'S NOT REALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS DIVERSIFICATION. SO WHAT CAN WE AS A CITY DO TO BRING IN MONEY THAT HAS NOT RELATED TO TOURISTS. TOURISM. YOU'RE BRINGING IN FAMILIES, BUT BRINGING IN FAMILIES DOESN'T, BRINGING IN FAMILIES DOESN'T, IS NOT ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION. I HAD THIS CONVERSATION ACTUALLY WITH YOUR HUSBAND, BRINGING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PEOPLE IN IS NOT ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION BECAUSE THOSE HOUSES WOULD BE FILLED BY SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE BUYING GROCERIES AND DOING ALL THE THINGS A RESIDENT DOES. SO YOU WANNA HAVE SOMETHING THAT BRINGS IN SALES TAX. YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BRING IN, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TPT. YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S BRINGING IN TAXES, KNOWING WE HAVE NO PERSONAL INCOME TAX, WE HAVE NO PROPERTY TAX. RIGHT. THOSE ARE OUR ONLY TWO, TWO THINGS. SO IF YOU'RE JUST SWAPPING ONE SET OF PEOPLE WHO WERE BUYING GROCERIES AND SUNDRIES IN TOWN WITH ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE WHO WERE BUYING GROCERIES AND SUNDRIES IN TOWN. AND IF YOU'VE GOT CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING OVER TO COTTONWOOD TO, TO GET CLOTHES OR FLAGSTAFF TO GET CLOTHES. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT BUYING KIDS CLOTHES HERE. SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS DIVERSIFICATION IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS AN AWESOME THING IN MY OPINION. BUT IT'S NOT ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION. SO IT'S OTHER WAYS TO, WHAT OTHER WAYS CAN WE GO TO EARN [00:30:01] MONEY FOR THE CITY AND INSTEAD OF JUST TOURISM. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL TOURISM BASED, AND WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY LOVE THE PLACE, THEY COME IN AS A TOURIST. AND SO SOMEWHERE INSIDE OF OUR CITY STUFF, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GOOD SCHOOLS HERE. WE HAVE INTERESTING THINGS FOR CHILDREN TO DO HERE. WE DON'T JUST HAVE, WHICH INCLUDES OUR PARKS AND RECS PROGRAM. MM-HMM . BUT WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT JUST, WE'RE NOT JUST FOR SINGLE PEOPLE AND WE'RE NOT JUST FOR RETIREES, AND WE'RE NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT A SECOND HOME AND A UNIQUELY BEAUTIFUL SPACE. YEAH. AND, AND I, I LIKE THAT IDEA MYSELF. I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST ENVISIONING, AND I'M TALK TOTALLY TALKING OFF THE CUFF HERE, BUT, UM, SOMEPLACE ON OUR, OUR WEBSITE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A LITTLE YOUTUBE VIDEO, THE DISTRICT COULD HAVE A LITTLE YOUTUBE VIDEO. YOUR KIDS COULD BE PLAYING STRINGED INSTRUMENTS AT SOME PERFORMANCE AND, YOU KNOW, THAT REPRESENTS SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL. THE DISTRICT CAN COME UP, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY HAVE. JUST SOMETHING THAT SHOWCASES THE SCHOOL, SHOWCASES SOMETHING, UM, THAT'S PART OF OUR BRAND, YOU KNOW, ANIMATED BY THE ARTS AND OR IN THE CASE OF THE OAK CREEK SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHATEVER. IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER ANIMATION THING. ANYWAY, UM, AS, AS A WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE HELP A LITTLE OR GET THE WORD OUT FOR YOU. OKAY. SO THIS IS SO OUTTA MY WHEELHOUSE, BUT, SO TWO QUESTIONS. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN CROSS MARKETING? THAT TYPE OF YEAH. SO WE DO, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST COMMUNITY OUTREACH THINGS IS TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FESTIVALS. WE DO THE PARADES. UM, WE ALSO HAVE, WE'RE GONNA GO TO TWO. WE'VE BEEN DOING ONE A YEAR OF, UM, UH, FESTIVAL EVENTS AT THE SCHOOL THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. UM, WE'RE DOING THE STRINGS. UH, BASICALLY OUR GRADUATION CEREMONY IS ALSO GONNA BE A STRINGS CONCERT, UM, IN A FEW WEEKS. THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THOUGH, TOO. UM, WE'VE GOT, ONE OF THE TEACHERS IS IN A BAND, SO SHE PLAYS FOR EVERYBODY AND IT'S REALLY FUN. UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD FIT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE COULD DO A CROSS-PROMOTION FOR SEDONA AND THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT GO ON HERE. . YEAH. AND I THINK ARTS IN THE CLASSROOM SHOULD BE PART OF THAT. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE ARTS, IN THE CLASSROOM PROGRAM. OH, ARTS IN THE CLASSROOM. WE MOST DEFINITELY DO. IT IS, IT IS, IT IS A TREASURE AND IT IS SO APPRECIATED BY OUR, UM, STAFF. AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING FEEDBACK TO NANCY ABOUT, UM, PARTICULAR ARTISTS. UM, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD DINOSAUR GIGS GOING ON AND THEY'RE MAKING PAPER AND THEY MADE LITTLE PLAIN MICE AND THEY SANG SONGS. AND I MEAN, ALL THIS WAS ARTISTS IN THE CLASSROOM, TEXTILE, UM, WEAVING. UM, THEY MADE THIS REALLY LARGE WOVEN, UM, TAPESTRY THAT IS GONNA BE DOWN AT THE COTTONWOOD FAIR. UH, THEY DID CLAY. I MEAN ALL OF THIS A LOT. MOST OF IT WAS THROUGH ARTISTS IN THE CLASSROOM. SO WE, WE NEED TO GET THAT PROMOTED SOMEWHERE. THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THIS, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, TO BRING THAT IN. YEAH. 'CAUSE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. ALL WE EVER DO IS TALK ABOUT USUALLY THE SENIOR ARTISTS, OR WE TALK ABOUT POET LAUREATES NOW, BUT WE REALLY SHOULD BE PROMOTING THE FACT THAT, UM, WE WANT TO HAVE THESE, THESE CONNECTIONS, THESE ARTISTIC CONNECTIONS INTO OUR CLASSROOMS. AND WE DO. AND HERE'S SOMETHING REALLY BIZARRE. AND OFF THE CUFF, HAVE YOU GUYS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOUR KIDS WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE PERFORM IN ONE OF THE RED DIRT CONCERTS? I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THAT LEVEL. A TWINKLE TWINKLE. BUT THE IDEA, THE IDEA IS THAT IF THEY'RE LIKE, QUOTE, A WARMUP ACT FOR THE RED CONCERT, YOU'RE GETTING SOME PROMOTION TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING. AND THEY'RE NOT ALL SEDONA RESIDENTS. RIGHT. YOU'RE GETTING THEM FROM ALL OVER THE VERDE VALLEY. YEAH. SO IN A WAY IT'S JUST ANOTHER FORM OF ADVERTISING YOUR SCHOOL. RIGHT. MARKETING SCHOOL. THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'VE NEVER, I, AND SOME OF YOUR KIDS WILL LOVE IT, AND SOME OF YOU SHALL SAY HELL NO. YEAH, EXACTLY. I'M REALLY SICK RIGHT NOW. . OKAY. A COUPLE OF KIDS WOULD LOVE THAT. WHERE ARE YOU THINKING INSTRUMENT REPAIR? SO I THINK IT'S FROM REPAIR. YOU CAN, I I'M GONNA SAY IT'S A, PROBABLY NOT, BUT EVEN IF IT'S OPEN TO HOMESCHOOLERS. WELL, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL NEED TO BE VETTED. THAT'S LEGAL. THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. WELL, THEN I WOULD SAY NEEDS MORE RESEARCH. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT IF WE WERE TO PROMOTE THE STRINGS PROGRAM TO [00:35:01] HOMESCHOOL TO PUBLIC? IT WOULD, WELL THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEEDING THE RESEARCH PART. LIKE IF IT WERE OPEN TO ANY, ANY KID FROM SCHOOL. I MEAN, AS FAR AS ADVERTISING FOR, UH, TO GET FUNDING FOR ADVERTISING OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT, FUNDING FOR ADVERTISING IS DIFFERENT. AND THAT'S A MATTER OF SHOULD WE CROSS ADVERTISE OTHER ELEMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY BESIDES, YOU KNOW, FOR TOURISM? I THINK IT IS LINKED TO TOURISM. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COME HERE AND THEY SAY THEY LOVE IT. RIGHT. UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE WHY YOU DON'T MOVE HERE IS BECAUSE YOU THINK THE SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. SO, UH, OR THERE'S NOTHING FOR KIDS TO DO. SO I THINK ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT OUT BUNDLED WITH THINGS THAT JOSH DOES FOR THE KIDS. AND SORT OF LIKE ONE BIG SEDONA HAS STUFF FOR FAMILIES. RIGHT. AND WE DO, I FEEL LIKE AS FAR AS OUR SCHOOL, WE DO TRY TO, TO PROMOTE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS THROUGH THE CITY. LIKE RIGHT IN, I SEND OUT AN UPDATE PERIODICALLY, PROBABLY EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND I ALWAYS LIST ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. THE SEDONA SYMPHONY, THE PARKS AND REC PROGRAMS, THEY BRING FLYERS TO US. CELEBRATION OF SPRING, WE SENT THAT OUT TO OUR FAMILIES. ALL OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE WE WANT OUR FAMILIES TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. IN SEDONA. WE WANT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM TO COME TO CELEBRATION OF SPRING. IT'S A FABULOUS PRO. IT'S FABULOUS EVENT PUT ON BY THE CITY. UM, THE KIDS LOVE IT. THE FAMILIES LOVE IT. UM, AND IT HELPS SEDONA SHINE. MM-HMM . UM, AND I TALK ABOUT EV ALMOST EVERY TOUR I GIVE, I TALK ABOUT ARTS IN THE CLASSROOM BECAUSE IT, IT HAS BECOME, UM, A SIGNIFICANT PART OF, OF OUR CLASSROOMS. AND WE LOVE THAT. WE LOVE THE ARTS. I MEAN, IT'S PART OF A MONTESSORI CURRICULUM, RIGHT? MM-HMM . TO BE DRAWING AND PAINTING. AND, AND FOR SOME OF THE KIDS, THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE BECOME, THEY'LL GROW UP TO BE ARTIST. YEAH. SELF EXPRESSION. THEY'RE WHITE, RIGHT? YES. YES. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL THE DRAWING IS OR WHATEVER, BUT WE WANT 'EM TO DRAW AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES. FOR SURE. CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF SIDE QUESTIONS? YES. UM, DO YOU KNOW, EITHER ANECDOTALLY OR IN SOME WAY TRACK, UM, WHEREVER YOUR STUDENTS GO, ONCE THEY FINISH AT, UH, THE CHARTER SCHOOL, HOW DO THEY COMPARE WITH THEIR PEERS AT THE NEXT LEVEL OF SCHOOLING? THEY'RE KILLING IT. . WE, UH, MOST OF THE STUDENTS THAT LEFT, WE SHUT DOWN OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM. WE ENDED UP PUTTING A PRE-K PROGRAM IN IT PLACE. SO MOST OF THE STUDENTS THAT, UH, WERE ALREADY IN MIDDLE SCHOOL OR GRADUATING THAT YEAR, INCLUDING MY DAUGHTER, ENDED UP GOING TO RED ROCK. UM, AND THEY JUST HAD THEIR HONOR ROLL CEREMONY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. ALMOST EVERY SINGLE KID FROM SEDONA CHARTER WAS ON THE HONOR ROLL. UM, AND WAS AT THE CEREMONY. IT WAS LIKE A REUNION OF , SEDONA CHARTER FAMILIES THAT WERE THERE. UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE TEACHERS THAT ARE THERE THAT THEY BASICALLY, A LOT OF THE KIDS ARE AHEAD OF THE, THE CURRICULUM THAT THEY HAVE THERE. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF WAITING FOR OTHER KIDS TO CATCH UP. BUT THEY'RE GETTING A'S THEY'RE, THEY'RE CRUSHING THE TESTS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S, UM, WHICH I WAS ACTUALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE MONTESSORI, THE SYSTEM'S KIND OF MORE FREEWHEELING AND, UM, A LITTLE LOOSER. AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS GONNA BE TO GET INTO A MORE REGIMENTED PUBLIC SCHOOLING MM-HMM . UM, CURRICULUM. AND THEY'VE HAD NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER. BUT IT'S BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY SHOCKING AND IN A GOOD WAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. SO MOST, MOST OF OUR, NOT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS ARE FROM SEDONA. THEY ARE FROM SOME FROM CAMP VERDE, COTTONWOOD RIM ROCK, UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE FORGED GREAT FRIENDSHIPS. AND SO, UM, WHEN THEY GO ON, A LOT OF, MOST OF OUR STUDENTS GO TO RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL. THEY TRANSFER OVER, THEY TRANSFER OVER, EVEN IF THEY'RE FROM, EVEN IF THEY'RE DRIVING FROM COTTONWOOD. YEAH. I LIVE IN CORN. CORN MILL, SORRY. . UM, YEAH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL MAKE THE DRIVE TO UP, OR I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A BUS? NO, NO BUS. WE DON'T, YEAH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL DRIVE FROM THEIR COMMUNITY UP TO RED ROCK HIGH SCHOOL. AND THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WAS YOUR FUNDING FORMULA FROM THE STATE MM-HMM . I, I, AND I MAY HAVE ASKED YOU THIS BEFORE, I, I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO SPACE THESE DAYS, BUT, UM, DOES [00:40:01] IT INCORPORATE SOMETHING RELATED TO FACILITIES? BECAUSE I SORT OF THOUGHT THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE REGULAR DISTRICT AND CHARTERS. IT WAS THE CHARTERS DID NOT GET ANY FUNDING FOR, UH, CAPITAL IN THE, IN TERMS OF FACILITY. IS THAT, SO, UM, AS A CHARTER SCHOOL, WE ARE, OUR BUDGET, OUR BUDGETING PROCESS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE DISTRICT. SO, UM, AND THE MONEY THAT WE GET, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. ALSO, WE DON'T GET, TYPICALLY WE DON'T GET LOCAL FUNDING. WE GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE AND THEN WE GET, IT'S CALLED A, UM, OH DEAR, I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT IT'S CALLED RIGHT NOW. IT'S LIKE AN ADDITIONAL FUND, UM, THROUGH THE STATE THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING LOCAL FUNDING, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. SO IT'S A SORT OF A FILL THE GAP. IT'S A FILL THE GAP THING. IT'S A FILL THE GAP. AND WHEN WE DO BUDGETING, WE CAN MOVE OUR MONEY AROUND MUCH EASIER THAN THE DISTRICT. SO IF, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE DISTRICT SAYS WE'RE SPENDING X ON THIS, THEY NEED TO SPEND XI CAN SAY WE'RE SPENDING X ON THIS, BUT, UH, OH, WE DIDN'T SEE THIS NEED OVER HERE THAT WE NOW HAVE. SO I CAN TAKE SOME MONEY FROM X THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND MM-HMM . AND WE CAN MOVE IT OVER TO THIS OTHER BUCKET, BASICALLY. AND, UM, SO OUR BUDGET IS MORE FLEXIBLE. A CHARTER'S BUDGET IS MORE FLEXIBLE MM-HMM . THAN, UM, THE DISTRICT BUDGETS. THAT'S GOOD. UM, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S OCCURRED TO YOU? AS WE'VE TALKED? UM, WE HAVE AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM THAT WE, UM, THAT WE CHARGE OUR PARENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY COULD PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THAT SINCE IT'S LIKE AN ADDITIONAL NEED FOR FAMILIES. I, I SUSPECT THAT'S IN THE PROBABLY NOT CATEGORY. THIS WE COULD PROVIDE THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH PARKS AND REC. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD GIVE YOU CASH IN LIEU OF THAT. YOU KNOW, I, I'M WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M, AGAIN, NOT KURT, BUT, UM, YOU DON'T EVEN LOOK LIKE KURT. SO ? NO, I'M NOT NEARLY AS TALL. YEAH. THERE'S AT LEAST A FOOT DIFFERENCE, BUT AT LEAST A DIFFERENT, UM, INSTINCTUALLY I WOULD SAY NO, BECAUSE IF WE GAVE MONEY FOR THAT PROGRAM, IF WE GAVE MONEY TO THE PROGRAM, AND IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE. LIKE, IT'S NOT AN OPEN THING. LIKE I KNOW THEY SOMETIMES DO SCHOLARSHIPS FOR SOME OF THE, UH, PARKS AND RECS, UM, PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE SOME MONEY THAT THEY HELP KIDS WHOSE FAMILIES CAN'T AFFORD FOR THEM TO PLAY SOCCER OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S, IT'S TO A PRIVATE ENTITY BASICALLY. IT'S NOT PUBLIC. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR KIDS, IT'S, IT'S BECOMES MORE COMPLICATED I THINK. I THINK IT, I WOULD SAY NEEDS MORE RESEARCH, BUT I SUSPECT THE ANSWER IS NO. IT'S LIKE WITH THE WILDCAT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. THEY DIDN'T ASK US TO HELP THEM THERE THOUGH. I DON'T THINK THEY CHARGED THEIR FAMILIES. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I THINK HE SAID THEY DON'T CHARGE. YEAH. BUT, BUT THEY ASKED FOR WERE ADDITIONAL, UH, PARKS AND RECS FUNDED ACTIVITIES FOR AFTER SCHOOL. SO THERE WAS MORE VARIETY FOR KIDS. AND I SUSPECT TO TAKE MORE KIDS. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T HOUSE THAT MANY KIDS IN THEIR AREA. SO IF THERE'S MORE PROGRAMS THAT'S OVER AT POSSE. AND SO THE ONLY THING WOULD BE LIKE, IF YOU WANTED US TO LOOK INTO THAT, WE COULD INCLUDING WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD USE THE SHUTTLES TO TRANSPORT THE KIDS OVER TO THE PROGRAMS. BECAUSE UNLIKE WILD THE WILDCATS RIGHT, THEY'RE, THEY CAN WALK. RIGHT. RIGHT. THEY CAN WALK AND YOU REALLY CAN'T. SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH TRANSPORTATION AND USING THE SHUTTLE TO HELP THESE KIDS GET OVER TO DO AFTERSCHOOL TYPE PROGRAMS. UM, YOU KNOW THAT, I'M SORRY. SO GO [00:45:01] AHEAD. UH, IF THAT PROGRAM WAS OPEN TO HOMESCHOOLING, UH, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE, IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. LIKE THAT'S NOT THE PUBLIC. SO HOMESCHOOL IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM RUNNING RIVER AND, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO TAKE ANY CHILD. RIGHT. IT WOULD BE LIKE OUR, OUR, SO WE HAVE A SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM AND OUR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM. WELL THAT'S REALLY RUN. IT'S RUN IT, IT, IT'S HOUSED AT OUR SCHOOL, BUT IT'S RUN BY A THIRD PARTY AND THEY OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. CORRECT. LIKE WE HAVE KIDS FROM WEST SEDONA AND RUNNING RIVER AND WHO ARE HOMESCHOOLED AND OUR OWN STUDENTS ALSO WHO COME TO THAT. BUT IT'S NOT REALLY YOUR PROGRAM. YOU'RE BASICALLY LEASING THE, THE SPACE FOR IT. MM-HMM . YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OUR KIDS. AND THAT'S WHY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAID THEY'RE STILL GONNA RUN THEIR OWN WILDCAT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, WHICH ARE THEIR STUDENTS. RIGHT. BUT THEY WANT OTHER THINGS. AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY THEY GET THAT IS BY THE FACT THE PARKS AND RECS WILL OPEN IT TO EVERY CHILD. YEAH. RIGHT. HOWEVER THEY WANNA DO. NOW, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD TALK ABOUT OR THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHUTTLING KIDS LIKE OVER TO THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEN AT FIVE O'CLOCK SHUTTLE THEM BACK TO THE SCHOOL FOR PICKUP OR WHATEVER YOUR PICKUP TIME IS. SO WE COULD EXPAND THAT PROGRAM FOR YOU. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD DO SCHOLARSHIPS. I, WE COULD RESEARCH MUCH. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD THAT AMOUNT TO EVEN SCHOLARSHIPS? WELL, WE HAVE FAMILIES WHO CAN'T AFFORD AFTERSCHOOL CARE. SO WE, UM, FUND THAT AND IT'S ABOUT $3,000 A YEAR. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT THROUGH SMALL GRANTS? SEEING IF, IF THAT WOULD WORK THROUGH SMALL GRANTS? WELL, WE HAD, WE HAD A GRANT THAT COVERED A TITLE FOUR, BUT TITLE FOUR IS NOT A GRANT ANY LONGER OR NO, I MEAN OUR SMALL GRANTS PROGRAM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT QUALIFY. I'M NOT. I THINK IT WOULD, IT'S 40% ARTS, 40% COMMUNITY SERVICE AND 10% UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE WORK GROUP WHO DETERMINES THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDING. BUT IT'S LIKE TWO TO $20,000. IN FACT, IT'S PROBABLY GONE UP TO $25,000 NOW THAT THOSE TWO, THE BIG ONES HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT THROUGH A SEPARATE GRANT. RIGHT. BUT THE PROCESS IS ABOUT TO OPEN. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THAT. NO, IT CLOSES ON, I'M WORKING ON THAT GRANT. YEAH. IT CLOSES APRIL 30TH. SO THE SMALL GRANT, YOU CAN APPLY FOR MORE THAN ONE AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. 'CAUSE A GRANT WILL BE DIFFERENT. SO YOU COULD DO LIKE A SMALL GRANT FOR SCHOLARSHIPS IN ORDER TO DO THIS. I THINK THAT'S, YEAH. IF THE, IF IT HASN'T CLOSED YET, WHICH KIND OF SURPRISES ME. I KNOW. BECAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE CLOSED. NOT IT CLOSES APRIL. IT CLOSES APRIL 30TH. YEAH. THROUGH CHRISTIE. YEAH, I THINK. OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK CHRISTIE WHILE YOU STAY? YOU STAY? I'LL GO. THERE'S A DOOR RIGHT HERE. OKAY. THAT ALSO DOES THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING FOR GRANT FUNDS THROUGH THE, WHAT'S THIS, UM, COMMUNITY FOUNDATION? YEAH. ARIZONA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, THEONA CHAPTER. THEY HAVE, THEY WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF OURS WOULD ALLOW FOR A, FOR FUNDING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT HAS TO GO TOWARDS A PROGRAM OR SOMETHING TANGIBLE. WELL, THIS IS THE PROGRAM IS AFTER SCHOOL CARE. TRUE. OKAY. WELL IF IT HAS NOT CLOSED, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY TO IT FOR, YEAH, I STARTED THE APPLICATION. I THOUGHT IT WAS OPEN THROUGH APRIL 30TH AT 10:00 AM OR 12 NOON OR SOMETHING. WELL, WHEN, HOW'S IT GONNA MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE BUDGET THEN? I DON'T KNOW. SEEMS A LITTLE LATE. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT MAYBE THE TOTAL MAKES IT IN EVEN THOUGH THE APRIL 30TH AT NOON. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. WAIT, SO IN THAT, IN IN THIS SMALL GRANT PROGRAM FUNDING, ARE YOU APPLYING FOR THIS OR ARE YOU APPLYING FOR SOMETHING ELSE? I, I HAVE MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED IN MY APPLICATION YET. BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION, I THINK IF IT'S DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, I KNOW THE ROTARY CLUB, FOR INSTANCE, LAST YEAR THEY APPLIED FOR SMALL GRANT MONEY TO HELP FUND THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR A WILDCAT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. SO THE SMALL GRANTS ARE NOT LIMITED THE WAY CITIES LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY. SO YOU COULD PUT IN MORE THAN ONE GRANT AND IT JUST FEELS [00:50:01] LIKE THIS IS A SMALL ENOUGH NUMBER AND FOR IT'S FOR KIDS. AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THAT ISN'T GOING LIKE GET APPROVED. UM, SO SPEAK NO, IT'S A RIGHT IDEA. I MEAN, THAT COMMITTEE MAY HAVE ITS OWN RULE THAT WE ONLY AWARD ONE PER ENTITY. IT MIGHT BE, I HAVE NO IDEA IT, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD. BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVE 'EM DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT BUCKETS TO CHOOSE FROM AND YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S ARTS BUCKETS AND, YOU KNOW. YEAH. ANYWAY, IT'S A THOUGHT. NO, IT'S A GREAT THOUGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I DUNNO, ANYTHING ELSE? SO WE NEED TO TURN THESE IDEAS FIRST. WE NEED TO VET 'EM WITH KURT. YES. AND THEN, UM, IN THE MEMO THAT WE WILL SEND TO COUNSEL, WE WILL ENUMERATE ALL YOUR IDEAS AND INDICATE THE ONES THAT DIDN'T PASS THE CUR MUSTER. UM, AND THEN THE REST WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A DECISION PACKAGE WHICH WILL GET WRITTEN BY SOMEBODY ON STAFF, UM, GOING NOT ME . YEAH. I DUNNO WHO. UM, SO TO HELP WITH THAT, BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M TAKING NOTES, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WE COULD USE AS A CHEAT SHEET FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ALL, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. YES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN SHARE. I THAT YES. BASICALLY WHAT SHE'S BEEN READING TO. WELL, YES. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER STUFF ON THERE. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO. NO, NO, I DIDN'T HAVE, I I PRETTY MUCH RAN THROUGH, UM, THROUGH MY LIST. UM, EXCEPT FOR ONE THING. AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A PLAYGROUND AT OUR SCHOOL, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE SCHOOL AND, UM, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIDS CAN COME THERE ON THE WEEKENDS, THEY CAN COME THERE AFTER SCHOOL AND PLAY AND WHATNOT. WE DON'T HAVE, UM, A LOCKED GATE THAT LOCKS OFF OUR CAMPUS. UM, WE HAVE A SPORTS COURT NEXT TO IT. SOMETIMES THE KIDS COME THERE AFTER SCHOOL AND PLAY BASKETBALL AND IS ALL THAT IN GOOD ORDER. ARE YOU NEEDING ANY? IT IS IN GOOD ORDER. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A PIECE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY OR IF THAT, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD SAY IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS RESEARCH, BUT YEAH. BUT IT IS, I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. I THINK IT'S IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. UM, THERE'S A TRAIL TO IT FROM A LIBRARY. YEAH. IT, IT'S OUR PLAYGROUND BACKS UP AGAINST THE SHARED USE PATH. SO YOU CAN GO OUT THE GATE AND GO AND PEOPLE CAN USE IT AFTER OUT AFTER SCHOOL. YEAH. WHICH MATCHES THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE, THE PLAYING FIELDS BASICALLY. RIGHT. WHAT UM, WHAT IS IT YOU WANT TO ADD IN ABOUT HOW MUCH IS IT? UM, IT'S THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEY CALL IT. IT'S LIKE A SPIDER WEB TYPE THING AND IT HAS LIKE A POLE OF THIS CENTER. SO COOL. IS THAT LIKE THE CLIMBING WALL? THE KIDS LOVE IT. YEAH. YEAH, BASICALLY. UM, AND SO IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A SQUARE BASED PYRAMID, IF YOU WILL. OKAY. AND THE KIDS CAN CLIMB UP INTO IT. OKAY. UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE 15 TO 20 KIDS CAN PLAY ON IT AT A TIME. SO CLIMBING STRUCTURE. CLIMBING STRUCTURE, THAT'S A GOOD NAME FOR IT. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF PRICEY. IT'S LIKE $20,000. SO I, I KNOW THAT'S ASKING A LOT. SO IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S THE CATEGORY, IT'S NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. YEAH. YES. WE CAN DO THIS EVEN THOUGH THIS COSTS MORE THAN THAT, BUT WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. SO I REQUEST, I I'M GONNA JUST RUN DOWN OUR LIST TO MAKE SURE I WROTE IT DOWN CORRECTLY. SO, SO WHEN YOU WRITE THE DECISION PACKAGE, YOU'LL HAVE IT ALL. SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE DECISION PACKAGE FOR COUNCIL, OKAY. SO UNDER HAS POTENTIAL. I WROTE CROSS MARKETING AND PROMOTIONS AND UNDERNEATH THAT I WROTE JUST A FEW IDEAS THAT WE HAD ARTISTS IN THE CLASSROOM, SCHOOL ADVERTISING AND RED DIRT CONCERT SERIES. UM, AND THEN PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT UNDER DREW NEEDS MORE RESEARCH. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CLUSTER, BUT I WROTE, UH, STAFF HOUSING REPAIRS. OH. AND I DID HEAR BACK FROM TONY. HE HE WROTE. OKAY, SO TALKING ABOUT STAFF HOUSING REPAIRS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CD CD 2D GRANT PROGRAM. YES. THROUGH VERDE VALLEY. HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. HE SAID IT WOULD BE PRETTY DIFFICULT. THE SCHOOL IS NOT LOCATED IN A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME TARGET AREA, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS, THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT. [00:55:01] I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD ANY OF THOSE. ME EITHER. SO HE SAID, SO IT WOULD HAVE, IT WOULD ONLY WORK IF MORE THAN 51% OF THE CHILDREN THAT USE THE FACILITY ARE CLASSIFIED AS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME. THIS WOULD REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION OF INCOME ELIGIBILITY, UNLIKE SENIORS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. CHILDREN DON'T FALL INTO PRESUMED TO BENEFIT CDBG CATEGORY WHERE THEY ARE ASSUMED TO BE LOW OR MODERATE INCOME. HE'S, I CAN SEND YOU THIS EMAIL, BUT OKAY. IT DOESN'T FIT OUR, IT DOESN'T FIT THE PROFILE OF OUR SCHOOL ANYWAY. LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE 50% NONE. THESE KIDS ARE WORKING, THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. . THEY'RE ALL THAT MAKES THEM LOW INCOME. LOW INCOME. OKAY. SO I'LL DO SOME MORE ON THAT AND PASS IT ON TO YOU GUYS. UM, AND THEN PERFORMING ARTS CENTER LIGHTING UPGRADE, I HAVE IN PARENTHESES PUBLIC USE SPACE INSTRUMENT REPAIR. I HAVE IN PARENTHESES OPEN FOR HOMESCHOOLERS AND THEN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM SCHOLARSHIPS. AND THEN I HAVE IN PARENTHESES SMALL GRANT FUNDING. I'LL, I'LL CHECK WITH CHRISTIE AFTER THIS TO SEE IF THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. AND THEN GET BACK TO YOU GUYS. OKAY. AND THEN AS YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT SPRINKLER SYSTEM UPGRADE. OKAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S OFF THE TABLE. EVERYTHING REALLY NEEDS TO BE UNDER, NEEDS MORE RESEARCH. BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THIS MEETING, KIND OF CATEGORIZING IT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO LET'S, UM, THERE'S NO OTHER IDEAS FROM YOU GUYS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CHARLOTTE, YOU WANT ACTUALLY, SORRY. I, REGARDING THE, THE CROSS PROMOTION AND THE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING OUT OUR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA SITES AND DOING ADVERTISING THAT WAY IS WHAT WERE WE GONNA PUT TO THAT 5,000 FOR BUDGET FOR TO HAVE THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS GO OUT? OH, FOR STIPEND. YEAH. I MEAN, BUT THAT'S LIKE OUR OWN MARKETING. THAT'S NOT LIKE CROSS MARKETING. WE COULD DO THROW THE FESTIVAL STUFF IN THERE THOUGH, AND LIKE THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CITY FOR EVENTS AND YEAH. SO IF WE WERE TO DO THAT AS PART OF THE CROSS PROMOTION, CAN WE PUT THAT EXPENSE ON THE LIST FOR PROMOTIONAL EXPENSE? SAY THAT AGAIN. EMOTION MEDIA. WE'RE DOING, UM, PART OF OUR ADVERTISING, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING OUT A SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN. UM, AND WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THAT. IT'S GOING IN TOMORROW. BUT, UM, THAT IS WHERE WE'D BE POSTING ABOUT THE FESTIVALS AND EVENTS AND, AND CROSS PROMOTIONAL STUFF FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, WHERE THE SCHOOL FITS IN. SO IS THAT PART OF OOF THAT ONE? I THINK THAT ONE MIGHT BE IFFY BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR OWN WEBSITES AND WE'D BE DOING THE SAME THING ON YOUR SIDE, RIGHT? YEAH. OH, OKAY. SO WE'D BE, WE'D BE HOSTING WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE COMING UP AND WHAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND I MEAN, IT JUST FEELS LIKE FROM OUR SIDE WE'RE ALREADY YEAH. I THINK WE'D HAVE TO BE THE DRIVER ON IT RATHER THAN GIVE THEM MONEY TO THEM. I THINK SO. BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEN WE'D HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING FOR EVERY SCHOOL AND I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY SAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IT SHOULD BE THROUGH THE CITY, SO, OKAY. YEAH. SORRY. I KNOW. NO WORRIES. I KNOW, I KNOW. EXPENSIVE THE MARKETING CAMPAIGNS ARE. OKAY. SO CHARLOTTE, DO YOU WANNA WRAP UP THIS MEETING? WE'RE WE'RE DONE WITH OUR TIME. OKAY. SO AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, UM, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY EVEN STARTED, WE'LL INCORPORATE THIS INTO A MEMO. WE'LL INCORPORATE THIS INTO A DECISION PACKAGE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME. PLEASE COME ON THURSDAY. UM, SOMEBODY WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU, WELL, THAT YOU KNOW WELL WHEN IT'S COMING UP ON YOUR TIME. UM, AND IF WE CAN, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH AFTER WE TALK WITH KURT, JUST FOR YOU TO KNOW THE A ONES, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. AND THAT SOUNDS, THE REST OF IT, THAT THE STATE IN THE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE CATEGORY WILL BE DEBATED ON THURSDAY. OKAY. AND YOU JUST SENT US ALL THAT STUFF THAT YOU ALREADY SAID. THAT'S ALL THE, I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A, I CAN JUST GIVE YOU THIS COPY OR I CAN, I CAN SEND YOU DIGITALLY, I MEAN I HAVE IT ON, I HAVE IT DIGITALLY. I CAN JUST SEND IT TO YOU. OKAY. IT'S IN A DOCUMENT. IT'S PROBABLY EASIER JUST TO GET IT DIGITALLY DONE. YEAH. OKAY. SO I WILL SEND IT TO, JUST TO CHARLOTTE AND MELISSA. I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT YOU KEEGAN. I'M LIKE KE I WOULD PROBABLY SEND IT TO KEEGAN AND CHARLOTTE WHO'S PUTTING TOGETHER THE MEMO. I'M JUST, I'M JUST THE, I KNOW, I JUST SIT HERE, THE SOUNDBOARD , I COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT APPARENTLY YOU DON'T WORK WELL. NO, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO KISS A LOT OF FROGS, [01:00:01] YOU KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHARLOTTE. SURE. OKAY, PERFECT. I'LL SEND IT TO YOU WHEN I GET BACK. JUST FOR THANKS. FUTURE REFERENCE HONOR. AND EVEN THOUGH TONY SAID WHAT TONY SAID, I'D STILL REACH OUT TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND JUST FIND OUT, BECAUSE THE TEACHERS WHO ARE LIVING THERE, IF THEY'RE PAYING YOU RENT, MAYBE THE FACT THAT THEY PAY RENT AND THEIR SALARIES MIGHT ALLOW OR QUALIFY THEM. MM-HMM . EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE THE LANDLORD, I DON'T KNOW HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS. OR THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM AND THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM. YEAH. COOL. OKAY. SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT RESOURCE. WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW . I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT. YOU NEVER KNOW. YEAH. WE'RE, WE WANT TO HELP. I WISH WE WEREN'T SO CONSTRAINED, BUT YOU KNOW, THE LINE WOULD BE EVEN LONGER IF WE WEREN'T TRUE. SO IT'S TRUE. ANYWAY. NO, WELL, I, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I MEAN, ANY HELP IS, IS VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN JUST DO THE CROSS MARKETING THAT IS HELPFUL. MM-HMM . LIKE SERIOUSLY ANYTHING AT ALL, BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES OUR BUDGET EVEN A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. . SO IS YOUR, IS YOUR SCHOOL FULL OR ARE YOU, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR SEATS ARE SO WE CAN HAVE UP, WELL TECHNICALLY WE CAN HAVE UP TO 200 ON OUR CAMPUS. IT'S NEVER BEEN AT 200. UM, AND YOU HAVE HOW MANY RIGHT NOW? A HUNDRED AND WE HAVE A HUNDRED. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 115. 115. OR ACTUALLY WE HAVE ABOUT 105 NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE 118 ENROLLED. UM, AND WE'RE DOING TOURS ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY. UM, BUT OUR, OUR PRESCHOOL AND KINDERGARTEN CLASSROOM, WHICH WE CALL PRIMARY IS ALMOST FULL. WE CAN TAKE TWO MORE STUDENTS AND THEN IT'S COMPLETELY FULL. UM, SO, SO YOUR PRESCHOOL IS CERTAINLY NOT, UM, PULLING FROM THE DISTRICT, BUT OTHERS THERE, THERE, THERE'S SOME YOUNG KIDS HERE IN, IN SEDONA. YEAH. THERE'S JUST NOT THAT MANY OF THEM. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, UH, YOU'RE NOT CANNIBALIZING FROM THE DISTRICT. NO. UH, AT THE PRESCHOOL LEVEL. BUT THESE PARENTS, WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE TOURS EVERY DAY, ARE THOSE PARENTS WHO ALREADY HAVE KIDS IN, UH, WEST SEDONA OR, AND THEY'RE NO, A LOT OF NEW, THEY'RE NEW. HMM. GOOD. THEY'RE NEW. WE HAVE, UM, PEOPLE FROM, LET'S SEE, IDAHO, CALIFORNIA, UM, I JUST GAVE A FAMILY A TOUR FROM SEATTLE. TWO LITTLE BOYS. UM, YEAH, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN. THAT'S GREAT. I THINK, UM, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO REALLY PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE DECENT SCHOOLS HERE, OR EVEN GREAT SCHOOLS HERE, AND WE'VE GOT FACILITIES AND ACTIVITIES FOR CHILDREN, RIGHT? MM-HMM . BOTH AT THE EDUCATIONAL LEVEL AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE JUST SOCIAL LEVEL. MM-HMM . 'CAUSE EVERY, EVERY TIME THEY JOIN A TEAM, THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO HANDLE CONFLICT. . YEAH. RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS A LOT OF LIKE SPORTS TEAMS AND THINGS, AND YOU CAN GET WHAT, YOU CAN GRADUATE WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE. MM-HMM . THROUGH YAVAPI COLLEGE. I MEAN, THEY HAVE A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY NICE, WONDERFUL PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL DIFFERENT, LIKE IF YOU'RE IN THE ARTS, THEY HAVE LIKE A DRAMA PROGRAM AND A STREAMS PROGRAM. IF YOU'RE INTO ACADEMICS, YOU CAN GET YOUR ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, YOU KNOW, AND GO THAT WAY. JUST THEY HAVE A LOT OF YEAH. AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PART OF EITHER RUNNING START OR, UM, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROGRAM USED TO BE CALLED TO, TO GET, UH, AA WHILE YOU'RE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL. UM, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF THINGS WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT IF YOU STARTED DOING A MARKETING CAMPAIGN WITH, UM, PEOPLE LIKE KEEGAN WOULD DRAW OUT ALL OF THESE THINGS AND HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER AND HOW THEY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, MEANING OUR PARKS AND RECS GROUP. UM, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL IN OUR SUBDIVISION WHO EVERY YEAR WORKS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL TO TRY AND START UP A ROBOTICS TEAM. YEAH. UH, AND YOU KNOW, HE GETS NO LOVE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHATSOEVER. ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT MIGHT TAKE OFF THIS YEAR BECAUSE SOME OF OUR STUDENTS WHO WENT THERE, THERE'S YEAH. AS MUCH AS CHARTER KIDS IN THAT, THEY JUST DID THE ROBOTICS THING LAST SEMESTER. THERE'S LIKE FOUR CORE KIDS WHO, LIKE, [01:05:01] THEY LOVE THE ROBOTICS AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT ON THE SIDE. AND GUNNAR GUNNAR IS, I MEAN HE'S, YOU KNOW, A VP FROM MICROSOFT AND ALL THIS STUFF AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED WITH GUNNAR OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, HE'S REALLY INTO THE ROBOTICS. HE'S REALLY WORKING, TRYING TO WORK WITH THE KIDS. HE CAN'T FIND SPACE TO WORK. HE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, HE CAN'T, THAT'S CONTINUOUS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO STORE STUFF. RIGHT, RIGHT. THEY DON'T WANT STOLEN. RIGHT. UM, UH, HE HAS TROUBLE GETTING FUNDING. THEY, THE KIDS LEARN FUNDRAISING AND THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND RAISE THEIR OWN FUNDS AND THEY GOTTA APPLY FOR THE SMALL GRANTS PROGRAM. I OUGHT TO FOR NO, THE ROBOTICS, THEY, WELL, AS A ROBOTICS CLUB, I COULD ASK GUNNAR IF HE WANTS TO DO THAT. SO THEY DID. THEY, THEY WENT TO, UM, THEY, THEY GOT THE SEMIFINALS. THEY WENT TO THE SEMI-FINALS HERE IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA WITH THEIR ROBOTS, WHICH WAS REALLY COOL. ANYWAY, I THINK ROBOTICS IS REALLY COOL. SO DO YOU, DO YOU GET LETTER GRADED THE WAY THE UH, YES. WHAT ARE YOU YES. WE HAVE A B WE HAVE A B. UM, YEAH. THAT'S A, A TRICKY ALGORITHM. I KNOW IT. WE HAVE MONEY. WE HAVE AN A. LIES. LIES. SO HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE MORE, YOU'RE NOT PRIVATE, BUT YOU'RE MORE PRIVATE THAN SAY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GUYS EVER LIKE, GO TO ANY OF THE EVENTS AND LIKE RENT A BOOTH OR SEE IF THEY'LL GIVE YOU A BOOTH BECAUSE YOU'RE A SCHOOL. UM, AND BASICALLY DO FUNDRAISING THROUGH SOME OF THE EVENTS LIKE WINE FESTIVALS AND ART FESTIVALS. AND SO WE, WE'VE KIND OF FELT THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT. WE WERE THE, WE WERE DOING THE KIDS KIDS ZONE AT THE SIP FESTIVAL AT DA RANCH. AND UM, IT'S AMAZING. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL EVENT. IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT THEY, THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY LOCAL PEOPLE THERE WITH CHILDREN. LIKE, OH, COME ON IN. WHERE ARE YOU FROM? SCOTTSDALE, . WELL, YEAH, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I MEAN, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER, BUT THEY, AT THAT, BUT THEY STILL MIGHT DONATE A DOLLAR, $2 OR SOMETHING. WE HAD LIKE A TIP JAR OUT AND, AND YEAH, WE GOT, WE GOT LIKE 20 BUCKS I THINK FOR OH MY GOD. SO, UM, SO YEAH, MAYBE A DIFFERENT EVENT THAT HASN'T BEEN, THAT HASN'T BEEN GREAT. WE DID GO, WE HAD, UM, A BOOTH AT THE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL, UM, AND WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T PUT OUT A TIP JAR. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR MONEY. WE JUST DID LIFE GRANTS AND WE HAD PURCHASE CARDS AND PENCILS AND WE WERE JUST TRYING TO DO SOME MARKETING. UM, YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE WE GOT OUR NAME OUT A LOT AND I FELT BAD BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER, THERE WAS A PRIVATE SCHOOL THERE, I THINK, WHO WAS ACROSS FROM US, AND THEY WERE TRYING TO SELL ITEMS THAT THEY HAD CREATED AND THEY WERE NOT DOING WELL. I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T, IT, IT WASN'T GENERATING WHAT I THOUGHT. MM-HMM . I, I THINK THAT THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT IT WAS GENERATING BECAUSE YEAH, PEOPLE WERE LIKE, OH, IS IT FREE? AND THEY WERE LIKE, NO. AND THEN PEOPLE WOULD JUST WALK ON WITHOUT EVEN RESPONDING. SO IT WAS KIND OF, IT WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTING. SO IT'S HARD TO DO FUNDRAISING AT, BUT YOU CAN DO JUST AWARENESS. YOU CAN RAISE AWARENESS. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE WITH THAT. AND WE ALWAYS DO THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE. SO, AND THAT, I THINK THAT HELPS GENERATE SOME INTEREST TOO, BECAUSE WE MAKE LITTLE LIKE GOODIE BAGS AND PUT BUSINESS CARDS IN IT WITH OUR INFORMATION. AND SO YEAH. WELL, WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. YEAH. LET'S GO SEE IF WE CAN, LET'S STOP BY BARBARA TO TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGE WRITING. . AND THEN BARBARA'S NOT HERE. NO, SHE IS. SHE IS. I, OH, I THOUGHT SHE HAD AN OFFICE NOW. SHE WAS THERE. OKAY. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. MEETING AND KEEPING US ON TRACK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.