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OR TRIP OVER ANYTHING THAT WAS GONNA HURT.IS THAT, IS THAT THE ONE AT THE SHERMAN'S? YEAH, THAT'S, OH, YEAH.
BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL THE, OH, YEAH.
ALL THE ROCKS THERE AND THEN THE BOULDERS.
NOW WHAT ARE THEY? HERE COMES BOBBY.
WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY DOING? TELL, TELL YOU
WE'LL LET BOBBY GET SETTLED REAL QUICK.
HOW ARE YOU, BOBBY? YEAH, THAT'S SETTLED.
WE WILL, UH,
SO, PRESERVATION COMMISSION, UH, TO ORDER IT IS 4 0 1.
UM, EVERYONE WOULD, UH, STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TIME.
RE MYS PRESENT VICE-CHAIRS IS, IS CURRENTLY UNEXCUSED UNLESS HE ARRIVES LATER.
COMMISSIONER STUACK PRESENT, COMMISSIONER FEENEY PRESENT.
GREAT ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
I HAVE ONE, BUT I'LL LET, UH, ANYONE ELSE SPEAK.
SO, THE, UH, SPEAKING AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE SEDONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND HERITAGE MUSEUM, UH, HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE AN EXHIBIT, UH, ON DISPLAY THROUGH THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, CALLED VERY CLEVERLY SEDONAS, HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
EVERY LANDMARK HAS, UH, WE, WE CREATED A POSTER FOR EVERY LANDMARK.
SO THERE'S A PICTURE, THERE'S, UM, WHERE IT IS, THERE'S A LITTLE STATEMENT, LITTLE PARAGRAPH ABOUT WHY IT'S, UH, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, WHY, WHY IT WAS LANDMARKED, UM, WHAT'S NOTEWORTHY ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, THAT'LL BE UP THROUGH THE END OF MAY FOR NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
IN ADDITION, UH, ON MAY 27TH, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY THE BEST GUEST SPEAKER WE'LL EVER HAVE AT THE SEDONA HERITAGE MUSEUM.
UH, IT'S ONE COMMISSIONER BOBBY WOODS, UH, IS GONNA BE SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, HIS DAD'S WORK AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ALL, ALL THINGS, UH, ALL THINGS HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SO, UM, IT'D BE A GREAT EVENT.
UH, IT'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE SENDING OUT INVITATIONS.
UH, YOUR, UM, COLLEAGUES GAVE ME THE, THE ADDRESSES.
UH, OF THE LANDMARK PROPERTY OWNERS WE'RE GETTING INVITATIONS OUT TO THEM, UH, THIS WEEK, UM, DIRECTLY INVITING THEM TO, TO COME.
AND, WE'LL, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL MAKE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND, UH, STAFF, UH, I GUESS YOU'D PROBABLY JUST NEED TO POST A QUORUM MAY ATTEND, 'CAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE, UH, AT LEAST THREE COMMISSIONERS THERE.
JUST GIMME THE DATES AND THE TIMES OF THE, OKAY.
FOR THE RECORD, MAY 27TH, 5:00 PM AT THE, AT THE HERITAGE MUSEUM IN ONE OF THE LANDMARKS.
WE'LL HAVE MUSIC, WELL HAVE SOME FOOD.
I DID CALL, UM, SHELLY AND HERME, UH, PETERSON AND INVITED THEM.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR MARCH 9TH, 2026 AND APRIL 13TH, 2026.
THE MARCH MINUTES ARE THE REGULAR MEETING, AND THE APRIL MINUTES ARE THE, UM, SITE VISITS.
UM, PUBLIC FORUM, THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO A RS 38 DASH 4 31 0.01 H, ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, RESPONDING TO ANY CRITICISM OR SCHEDULING THE MATTER FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND
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DECISION AT A LATER DATE.DONNA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR BUSINESS.
AND SINCE WE HAVE A GUEST, UH, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FIVE B UP AND I WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO CARRIE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE UPDATE ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY UPDATE.
AND THE UPDATE WAS JUST GOING TO BE THAT WE HAVE STARTED WORKING ON IT WITH OUR CONSULTANT, BUT OUR CONSULTANT DID MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE.
UM, SO JOHN SOUTH SARD, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY HIS LAST NAME, UM, WITH LOGAN SIMPSON IS JOINING US.
HE IS, UM, THE PROJECT, OR HE IS OUR CONTACT AT LOGAN SIMPSON FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY UPDATE.
UH, GARY, THANK YOU, CHAIR MYERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, MY NAME IS JOAN SOUTHARD, BUT, UH, THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, I'VE HEARD SOUTHARD SUTHERLAND, WHAT HAVE YOU,
UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE ON THIS PROJECT.
WE HAD OUR KICKOFF MEETING, UH, WITH CITY STAFF LAST WEEK, AND WE WANTED TO USE UPON THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAD TO SPEAK WITH THE COMMISSION, UH, GIVE AN OVERVIEW AND ALSO TO START A DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, WHICH PROPERTIES WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING TO SURVEY.
THERE IS, UH, A COMPONENT TO THIS SURVEY WHERE NEW PROPERTIES WILL BE SURVEYED, BUT WE WANTED TO GET INPUT THERE AS WELL.
I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A VERY, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION.
I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.
I REALIZE THIS WAS A LAST MINUTE EDITION TO THE AGENDA, BUT I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE.
I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME JUST ONE NUMBER, PLEASE.
SO, AGAIN, WE'RE THE CONSULTANTS SELECTED FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY, UH, TRAVIS LOGAN SIMPSON.
OUR HEADQUARTERS IS IN TEMPE, ARIZONA.
WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN FLAGSTAFF AND AN OFFICE IN TUCSON.
WE ALSO HAVE OFFICES IN SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH FOR COLLINS, COLORADO, AND RENO, NEVADA.
UH, WE ARE A MULTIDISCIPLINARY FIRM, SO WE HAVE CULTURAL, UH, THAT IS ARCHEOLOGY, ETHNOGRAPHY, AND HISTORIC RESERVATION.
WE HAVE LANDSCAPE DESIGN, WE HAVE PLANNING, UM, EXCUSE ME, AND WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNERS AS WELL.
SO, UH, OFTEN WE'RE ABLE TO BRING ALL OF THOSE, UH, AREAS TOGETHER HERE.
THIS WILL BE JUST THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TEAM PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
UH, SO REAL QUICK, I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH OUR TEAM BACKGROUNDS.
THERE ARE FOUR TEAM MEMBERS, UH, WHO WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT TO INCLUDE MYSELF.
UH, THIS BRIEF BACKGROUND, I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN HISTORY AND A AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS, A CERTIFIED PLANNER.
UH, I FORMERLY CHAIRED THE CITY OF SCOTTSDALE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
IT WAS FOR SEVEN YEARS, THE CITY OF TEMPE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.
AND I SERVED TWO TERMS ON THE ARIZONA HISTORIC SITES REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE BODY THAT REVIEWS NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS, UH, AND DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT THEY OPT TO BE FORWARDED ON TO THE KING BERKELEY NATIONAL REGISTER FOR LISTING CONSIDERATION.
UH, VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A, AN INCREDIBLY STRONG TEAM.
UH, SHE HAS A MASTERS OF SCIENCE IN ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION.
MARIAH WAS THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE FLORIDA STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
WE WERE ABLE TO PEEL HER AWAY FROM THERE.
I CONVINCED HER TO JOIN THE TEMPE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, AND SHE'S NOW THE CHAIR OF THE TEMPE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
AND TEMPE, UH, LAURA UPON THE BLANDFORD IS, UH, THE MOST RECENT ADDITION TO HER TEAM.
EVEN THAT HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
SHE ALSO HAS A MASTER'S IN HISTORY, PUBLIC HISTORY FROM ARIZONA STATE.
UH, SHE WAS FORMERLY THE STATE ARCHIVIST, BUT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER ON THE TEAM IN THE SENSE THAT IF THERE IS A RESOURCE TO BE TRACKED DOWN, SHE KNOWS HOW TO FIND IT.
SHE KNOWS WHO TO TALK TO, UH, SHE KNOWS WHAT IT IS THAT WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING FOR, AND WHERE IT IS THAT WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING, OR IS ALSO, UH, AN ORAL HISTORY SPECIALIST THAT SHE BRINGS THAT VALUE TO THE TEAM.
FINALLY, WE HAVE AMANDA PETERS.
AMANDA HAS A MASTER'S IN ART HISTORY, UH, AND FORMERLY WORKED
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FOR THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UH, IN COLLECTIONS, BUT ALSO INTERPRETATION.SHE IS OUR INTERPRETIVE SPECIALIST, AND SHE DOES, UH, MEET THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATION STANDARDS FOR ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.
I MEET THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS STANDARDS FOR ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY AND HISTORY, AS DOES MARIAH AND LAURA MEETS THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATION STANDARDS FOR HISTORY.
SO, HAVING BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE TEAM, AND I'M SURE THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMISSION IS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE HISTORIC RESEARCH SURVEY, WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, THE ITS SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO DOCUMENTING THE HISTORIC VALUE OF THE CHARACTER OF SEDONAS HISTORIC RESOURCES.
WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION DATES, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, UH, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PERHAPS SIGNIFICANCE AND THE INTEGRITY THAT IS TO HAVE THE OR RETAIN ITS ABILITY TO CONVEY ITS SIGNIFICANCE THROUGH FISCAL INTEGRITY.
THIS INFORMATION HELPS A MUNICIPALITY, CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO, UH, RESPONSIBLY MANAGE THEIR HISTORIC RESOURCES, KNOW WHEN PLANNING, UH, FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS, WHEN REVIEWING PROPOSALS, WHEN SEEKING PERHAPS TO DESIGNATE PROPERTIES.
WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE, WHAT OUGHT TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION DURING ANY ONE OF THE MANY PROCESSES, UH, THAT WE CITY UNDERTAKES ON A REGULAR BASIS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY AND INVENTORY WORK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TASK FOR A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT, UH, THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UH, REALLY EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING, UH, AN INVENTORY OF BOTH, OF COURSE, LANDMARK PROPERTIES, BUT, UH, ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES SO THAT THESE, UH, PROPERTIES CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN OWNING DECISIONS, UH, REDEVELOPMENT CASES, OR ANY NUMBER OF OTHER CASES COME FORWARD.
IN THE CASE OF SEDONA, THE LAST SURVEY, UNLESS RECENT WORK RESOURCE SURVEY WAS COMPLETED IN 2014, THAT SURVEY, UH, DOCUMENTED 64 RESOURCES THAT SURVEYS DID BUILD UPON SURVEYS FROM 2001 AND 2008, IN ADDITION TO HANDFUL OF PERIODIC SINGLE RESOURCE SURVEYS THAT ACCOMPANIED OR, OR WERE COMPETED IN ASSOCIATION WITH LANDMARK NOMINATIONS.
IN TERMS OF OUR SURVEY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A, A BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN HOPE THAN THE 2014 SURVEY WE'RE GOING TO.
AND IN FACT, WE HAVE STARTED WITH THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH, UH, TO INFORM THE SURVEY AND TO HELP US WHEN WE PREPARE AND HISTORIC CONTEXT, THE CONTEXT BEING ESSENTIALLY A NARRATIVE OF A COMMUNITY'S HISTORY THAT IS USED TO ESTABLISH, UH, EVENTS, TRENDS, PEOPLE, ET CETERA, THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT IN THAT COMMUNITY'S HISTORY, UH, AND BY WHICH EVALUATIONS OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR PROPERTIES CAN BE MADE.
AS AN EXAMPLE, IS A PROPERTY SIGNIFICANT IN ASSOCIATION WITH COMMUNITIES, AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE.
AND THIS PROPERTY, SIGNIFICANT IN ASSOCIATION WITH A NOTABLE INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY, IS A PROPERTY SIGNIFICANT IN ASSOCIATION WITH, UH, A MASTER ARCHITECT WHO PRACTICED THERE, OR A PARTICULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FOR WHICH A COMMUNITY MAY BE KNOWN, OR FOR WHICH, UH, IS KNOWN BY A COMMUNITY, UH, AS A LARGE STOCK OF SUCH BUILDINGS.
UH, THE NEXT PART IS THE FIELD SURVEY THAT IS GETTING OUT, AND IT IMPLIES INTO THE FIELD AND ACTUALLY DOCUMENTING PROPERTIES, PHOTOGRAPHING THE PROPERTIES, UH, NOTING POTENTIALLY CHARACTER DEFINED FEATURES, NOTING MATERIALS, ET CETERA.
TAKING THAT INFORMATION, USING IT TO COMPLETE THE ARIZONA HISTORIC PROPERTY INVENTORY FORM FOR HPIF AS WE COMPLETE THE HPIF AS WE REFER TO THE CONTEXT, UH, DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT, UH, A PROPERTY DOES IN FACT HAVE SIGNIFICANCE, AND IF IT DOES RETAIN INTEGRITY, UH, THAT IS THE PHYSICAL FEATURES ESSENTIAL TO HELP IT CONVEY ITS SIGNIFICANCE.
UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF SOMEBODY FROM THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE WERE TO SEE IT TODAY, WOULD THEY RECOGNIZE, KIND OF RULE OF THUMB, DO WE EVALUATE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN
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SURVEYED FOR BOTH, UH, SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY IN, UH, ULTIMATELY IF THEY AS BOTH SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY, THEY'RE RECOMMENDED AS ELIGIBLE, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING, AND PUT THOSE, THAT INFORMATION, UH, INTO A REPORT ALONG WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE PROGRAM, PERHAPS FUTURE SURVEY WORK, ET CETERA.BUT FOR THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH THAT WE'VE STARTED, WHICH A GREAT DEAL OF THAT, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, BASED UPON INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THE 2014 SURVEY DOCUMENT AND, UH, OTHER DOCUMENTS WE'VE OBTAINED.
BUT WE REALLY LOOK TO NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, HISTORIC NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, PHOTOGRAPHS TO INCLUDE AS AVAILABLE HISTORIC AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, ASSESSOR DATA, UH, HERE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COUNTIES WHO LOOK AT THE ASSESSOR DATA CAN BE A VERY RICH SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
UH, AND THEN WHATEVER OTHER SOURCES ARE DETERMINED TO BE RELEVANT DURING OUR PROCESSING, OF COURSE HERE, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS, TO THE OMA HERITAGE MUSEUM AND ANY THE OTHER ARCHIVES THAT MAY BE RECOMMENDED BY THIS BODY.
UH, FOR THE CONTEXT, AS I HAD MENTIONED, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, THERE ARE SORT OF THEMES THAT HAVE SHAPED THE CHARACTER OF SEDONA, UH, THEMES THAT HAVE INFLUENCED THE COMMUNITY'S BUILD OUT ITS HISTORY, ET CETERA, AS AN EXAMPLE, THEMES SUCH AS AGRICULTURE OR TOURISM, FILM, MINISTRY, ARTS AND CULTURE, ET CETERA.
SO OUR FIELD TEAM, WHEN THEY DO GO OUT TO COMPLETE THE RESOURCE SURVEYS, SO I MENTIONED THEY'RE GOING TO CAPTURE PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, OF PROPERTIES.
THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WILL BE CAPTURED FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, WE ATTEMPT TO GET AS MANY ANGLES OF A PROPERTY AS IS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THE MOST THOROUGH DOCUMENTATION.
ALSO, GOING TO TAKE PHYSICAL DATA ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, SURVEYED RESOURCES AND BE LOOKING TO S INFORMATION, UH, COLLECT AND INFORMATION RELATED TO MATERIALS SETTING, UH, LANDSCAPE ABILITY, ANYTHING THAT IS DETERMINED TO BE, UH, OF VALUE WHEN EVALUATING A PROPERTY AND ITS SIGNIFICANCE.
UH, AND THE TEAM THAT WILL BE SURVEYING, UH, MOST LIKELY MARIAH AND AMANDA, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, BOTH NEED THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATION STANDARDS FOR ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.
AGAIN, AS TOUCHED UPON BEFORE, UH, EACH SURVEYED RESOURCE WILL BE EVALUATED FOR ELIGIBILITY, UH, FOR LISTING IN BOTH THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AND THE SEDONA HISTORIC AND MARKS INVENTORY AND THEIR, WELL, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE CRITERIA ARE THE SAME.
UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANCE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTEXTS, ET CETERA, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR PROPERTIES TO BE RECOMMENDED AS ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING A LOCAL REGISTRY, BUT PERHAPS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING THIS INDIVIDUAL LISTING NATIONAL REGISTER, OR, UH, PERHAPS LISTING AS A CONTRIBUTOR TO A LARGER DISTRICT IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
SO, SHOULD WE GET TO THE POINT IN THE PROCESS WHERE PROPERTY IS RECOMMENDED, NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING NATIONAL REGISTER, BUT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING THE SEDONA HISTORICAL LANDMARKS INVENTORY? UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE CRITERIA ARE THE SAME, THAT THEY CAN BE APPLIED DIFFERENTLY.
GENERALLY, COMMUNITIES, UH, EXERCISE MORE LATITUDE, ENLISTING PROPERTIES, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE OTHER NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND OTHERS, THAT COMMUNITIES ARE BEST ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OF SIGNIFICANCE TO THEM, WHAT BEST REPRESENTS THEIR HERITAGE.
AND ALTHOUGH SUCH PROPERTIES MAY NOT BE DETERMINED, ELIGIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER, THAT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY PRECLUDE A PROPERTY FROM BEING LISTED IN A LOCAL REGISTER.
REALLY TO WRAP UP, UH, THE EXPLANATION OF THE SURVEY WORK, EVERYTHING WILL BE COMPILED INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT.
THERE WILL BE, AS MENTIONED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE LISTINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO RELATED TO THE MANAGEMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES TO INCLUDE, UH, POTENTIALLY RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE OPERATION OF A PROGRAM OR RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO PROPERTIES BY EITHER MORE EXTENSIVE SURVEY OR DEVELOPMENT OF FUTURE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDE SURVEY AND INVENTORY
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DOCUMENTS.AND REALLY THE RULE OF THUMB EARLY ON, I TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING A, UH, UP TO DATE SURVEY AND INVENTORY FOR A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF A SURVEY DOCUMENT IS MORE THAN 10 YEARS OLD, UH, IS, IS IT'S OFTEN VIEWED TO BE, UH, INVALID FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING ELIGIBILITY IN THE MOMENT.
JUST BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS, UH, BELIEVED AND IN MANY CASES IS OUTDATED, THERE MAY WELL HAVE BEEN ALTERATIONS TO A PROPERTY TO INCLUDE DEMOLITION UNDERSTANDING OF CONTEXT, MAY HAVE CHANGED, MAY HAVE
THAT IS IF YOU HAVE A LARGER, UH, UNIVERSE OF CANDIDATE FOR PROPERTIES, LET'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF EARLY HOMESTEADING AND COURSE OF 10 YEARS, UH, A GOOD PORTION OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, LOSE INTEGRITY OR ARE DEMOLISHED.
IT MAY BE LESS INTEGRITY IS BEEN REQUIRED FOR THE REMAINING EXAMPLES OF A PARTICULAR RESOURCE TYPE.
UH, SO THAT'S REALLY WHY THE FREQUENT, UH, AND UP TO DATE SURVEY INVENTORY WORK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR CERTIFIED LOCAL PARAMOUNT.
BUT WITH THAT OVERVIEW, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
AND, UH, I WOULD ALSO, UH, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UH, GARY AND CHAIR MEYERS ARE COMFORTABLE, I WOULD, UH, LOVE TO HEAR SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION RELATED TO, UH, PROPERTIES THAT, UH, HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN SURVEYED, BUT PERHAPS, UH, ARE BELIEVED TO BE, UH, WORTHY OF SURVEY AT THIS POINT.
UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME SPEAKING UP, UH, RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
A COUPLE THINGS FOR ME, JUST FIRST I'LL TAKE THE PRIVILEGE OF THE CHAIR
UM, JOHN, I, YOUR FACE POPPED UP ON THE SCREEN AND I WAS LIKE, I KNOW THIS GUY.
UH, AND THEN, UH, KERRY SAID YOUR NAME AND I CANNOT PICTURE WHERE WE WORKED TOGETHER, BUT WE WORKED ON A PROJECT PREVIOUSLY.
I WAS AT THE CHANDLER MUSEUM FOR LIKE 18 YEARS BEFORE I CAME UP HERE, AND, UH, I KNOW WE'VE WORKED ON SOMETHING TOGETHER.
UM, AND, UH, I'VE, I'VE KNOWN LAURA A. LONG TIME TOO, SO, UH, THIS IS A GOOD TEAM YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER.
AND PERHAPS IT WAS SOMETHING WITH, UH, JODY, UH, WHO KNOWS.
YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING WITH JODY, BUT, UH, YEAH, I, OR GENE REYNOLDS, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH OH, COULD DO THAT TOO.
ANYWAY, UM, WE'LL START AT MY FAR RIGHT, 'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER STUACK, UH, IS JUMPING AT THE BIT TO, TO SHARE SOME IDEAS WITH YOU.
UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER STUACK, KAREN STUACK.
IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE HAVE DONE SOME SURVEYS AND HAVE PUT FORTH A COUPLE FOR CONSIDERATION OF LANDMARKING.
WILL YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE AND RE-VISIT THOSE SITES, OR ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE WHAT WE'VE DONE? AND ALSO, I HAVE SOME PLACES THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE LIST THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT AS WELL.
CHAIR MEYERS, UH, COMMISSIONER STUPAC, UH, THANK YOU.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE NO QUESTIONS AS RELATE TO, UH, ANYTHING IN PROGRESS REGARDING NOMINATIONS.
UM, SO WE CAN, REGARDING THE NOMINATIONS, WE CAN UPDATE THAT LATER.
BUT, UM, THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, BUT WE ARE TALKING WITH THIS TEAM ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD BE, UM, WANTING TO TAKE ON SOME EXTRA WORK AND LOOK AT THE LANDMARK NOMINATIONS AS WELL.
UH, JOHN, DID YOU WANT US TO SHARE IF, IF, IF WE HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR WHAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT, DO YOU WANT US TO SHARE THOSE HERE? OR, OR JUST SHARE 'EM WITH STAFF AND THEY'LL SHARE 'EM OUT TO YOU? UH, CHAIRMAN, HONOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, WHATEVER, UH, YOU PREFER.
I, I DO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF TIME, GO FOR IT.
BUT IF THERE ARE CANDIDATE PROPERTIES THAT THE COMMISSION WISHES TO PUT FORWARD NOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
OR IF THEY BELIEVE IT TO BE MORE EXPEDITIOUS, TO COMPILE A LIST AND SHARE IT WITH STAFF, EITHER WORK FOR ME, UH, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME TO, TO ADD TO THE LIST AND WE'LL SHARE IT WITH STAFF.
BUT, UH, CARRIE GAVE ME THE GO FOR IT.
UH, IF YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE IDEAS, GO AHEAD, KAREN.
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IS AN OLD ART STUDIO OUT ON 1 79 ROS, AND IT'S SITTING THERE, AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET A SURVEY OF IT.YOU GO ON 1 79 PAST THE CHAPEL ROUNDABOUT AND GO PAST THE FIRE STATION AND THE JEWISH SYNAGOGUE, AND YOU'LL SEE IT JUST SITTING THERE AS KIND OF RED ROCK.
UM, AND IT'S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT, HE WAS A SIGNIFICANT ARTIST.
HE'S PASSED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T GONE FOR IT.
IT, IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, AND MAYBE IT'S BEYOND, I DON'T KNOW.
ONE OTHER I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IN UPTOWN SEDONA GOING OUT OF UPTOWN, UP ON THE LEFT, UP ON THIS HILL IS THIS LITTLE OLD, IT'S A FUNKY, UH, SOUVENIR SHOP, BUT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I SOMETHING TRADERS IT, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND IT IS, HAD REALLY FUNKY THINGS LIKE JACKALOPES FUR YARN.
IT'S REALLY, BUT, AND THE CURRENT OWNERS THINK IT'S A, WAS A STAGE COACH WAY STATION, WHICH I HAD TO SAY NO, IT WAS NOT, BUT
BUT IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO HAVE SURVEYED AND LOOKED INTO.
AND, UM, AND I, I, I HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER SUGGESTIONS I WON'T GO INTO.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING FOR YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER AK, COMMISSIONER FEENEY, YOU GOT ANYTHING? YEAH.
UM, PERHAPS, UH, YOU COULD ALSO GIVE US A LITTLE HELP WITH, UM, A CURRENT LANDMARK.
WE HAVE, IT'S CALLED DOODLE BUG RANCH.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT REALLY QUALIFIES AS A LANDMARK AT THIS POINT.
SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE US SOME GUIDANCE WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
UH, CHAIR MEYERS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, WAS IT COMMISSIONER DENEY? NO, UH, FEENEY.
IF IT SOUNDS AS IF PERHAPS, UH, YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UH, AN ELIGIBILITY EVALUATION, UH, I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK WITH TERRY BEFORE GETTING, UH, TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD ON THAT.
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH HER.
IT IS A SERVICE WE OFFERED, BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT, I SUPPOSE I'D PROBABLY BE BEST REFERRING TO CARRY, WE ARE GOING TO BE RESURVEY THE LANDMARK PROPERTIES.
SO THERE WILL BE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS MADE IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY.
HOWEVER, UH, GIVEN THAT IT IS ALREADY LISTED, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION LIKELY BE CONTINUED LISTING, UM, WITHOUT KNOWING THE BACKGROUND THERE NO.
HOW PERHAPS IT'S BEEN ALTERED.
IT, IT HAS, IT HAS BEEN ALTERED.
AND, AND THAT'S SINCE THE LAST SURVEY.
SO, UH, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE ELIGIBLE AND WE HAVE OUR DOUBTS, UH, MYERS COMMISSIONER FEENEY, WE, UH, THEN WE WILL BE RESURVEY THE LANDMARK PROPERTIES AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, VERY, IF YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING, UH, CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE WELCOME.
NO, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING, THAT ALL OF THE EXISTING LANDMARKS WILL BE RESURVEYED AND UPDATED.
AND IF THERE'S, ARE THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THIS PROCESS, THEN THAT WOULD COME TO YOU AS WELL.
UH, VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS HELPING US OUT.
UM, I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA LEARN A LOT GOING FORWARD TO ON WHAT WE SHOULD LOOK FOR AS WE START TO, UH, SEE, UH, PROJECTS OR BUILDINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO LIST.
SO IT'S, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT WRAPS UP THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UM, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, JOHN.
UM, WE'RE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A VERY, A VERY, UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM.
YOU'VE GOT A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS.
UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE TEAM AND THE PROJECT.
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BYE.HE, HE WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT SURVEYED THE, UM, LA CASA VIEJA IN TEMPE.
LAST, I, I'VE WORKED WITH HIM BEFORE.
I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT, ISN'T THAT TRUE? AND HE COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT EITHER, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE.
ANYWAY, UM, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ORGANIZING THAT.
UH, AND I GUESS WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PIECE OF REGULAR BUSINESS.
WE'LL GO BACK TO, UH, THE ORIGINAL FIVE, A UPDATE AND DISCUSSION REGARDING CERTIFICATES OF NO EFFECT ISSUED FOR THE FOLLOWING PROPERTIES.
FIRST ONE BEING CE TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 1, UH, AT TWO 80 ZANG GRAY DRIVE A REPAINTING PROJECT.
AND THE SECOND ONE BEING CE TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 2 F 56 LINKS DRIVE FOR A FENCE.
AND I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO STAFF.
SO WE GOT, IN THE PAST MONTH OR SO, WE'VE GOTTEN TO REQUESTS FROM OWNERS OF EXISTING LANDMARKS.
THE FIRST BEING THE VAN NESS HOUSE ON ZANE GRAY.
UM, THEY WANTED TO REPAINT THEIR HOUSE.
IT'S CURRENTLY A GREENISH COLOR.
THEY PROVIDED SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT THE HOUSE USED TO BE.
AND THE COLORS THAT THEY PROPOSED ARE MORE IN LINE WITH THE ORIGINAL COLORS OF THE HOUSE.
THE BRICK ON THE HOUSE IS NOT BEING PAINTED, IT'S JUST THE WOOD ELEMENTS OF THE HOUSE.
UM, CHAIR MEYERS AND THE, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, TONY, BOTH TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND DETERMINED THAT IT COULD BE ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF NO EFFECT.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT HOUSE? WELL, LIVING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IT NEEDED TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL COLOR
AND THOSE HOMEOWNERS ARE, ARE VERY INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THAT MM-HMM
SO, ALONG WITH THAT, NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE REPAINTING, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER DID PROVIDE US WITH SOME COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL BROCHURE FOR THAT SUBDIVISION, WHICH FEATURED THE HOUSE.
SO WE GOT A LITTLE MORE HISTORIC INFORMATION ON THAT ONE AS WELL THROUGH THE PROCESS.
ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO CHECK ON THAT HOUSE IS THAT A FEW YEARS AGO THEY, THEY HAD A HEDGE IN THE FRONT THAT CONNECTED WITH AN EXISTING SLUMP BLOCK FENCE.
AND THE HEDGE DIED AND THEY WANTED TO EXTEND THE FENCE.
AND THE QUESTION THAT THEY HAD IS THEY FOUND A WAY TO GET SOME MORE ORIGINAL SLUMP LOCK.
BUT WE KNOW FROM OUR EXPERIENCE THAT IF WE CHANGED SOMETHING THAT IT HAS TO LOOK DEFINITIVELY DIFFERENT.
AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND DURING THIS PROJECT THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FENCE.
AS PART OF EACH ONE OF THESE, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I, I HAVE ASKED BOTH OF THEM ONCE THE PROJECT IS OVER TO LET US KNOW SO WE CAN COME OUT AND GET UPDATED, UPDATED PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY.
WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT TO LOOK AT WHEN WE GO OUT THERE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? NO.
AND THEN THE KIVA HOUSE, WHICH IS DOWN IN THE CHAPEL AREA ON LINKS DRIVE WAS, IS ONE OF THE MOST RECENT LANDMARKED PROPERTIES.
UM, THEY WANTED TO FENCE IN THEIR REAR YARD, UM, COMING UP TO THE SIDE YARD.
AND, UM, AGAIN, CHER MEYERS AND OUR, AND TONY AT THE DIRECTOR BOTH REVIEWED IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY BOTH BROUGHT UP WAS THAT THERE ARE SOME ARCHITECTURAL RING WALLS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE FENCE WOULD BE BEHIND THAT SO THAT THOSE WING WALLS WOULD STILL BE VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AND DID CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO THEY WILL BE INSTALLING A REDWOOD FENCE, UM, IN THE REAR YARD COMING UP, UM, TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE SIDE YARD AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL BE GOING OUT AND TAKING UPDATED PHOTOGRAPHS ONCE, UM, THAT ONE WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE FENCE PERMIT.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL GET SOME UPDATED PHOTOGRAPHS.
AND THEY'RE ADHERING TO THE HEIGHT LIMITATION? YES.
SO YES, WE JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON THOSE.
TWO THINGS THAT WE DID IN THE PAST MONTH,
AND THEN, UH, NEXT PIECE OF REGULAR BUSINESS IS DISCUSSION POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING ONGOING UPDATES TO HISTORIC SURVEYS AND POTENTIAL LANDMARKS.
AT WHICH POINT, I GUESS I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO COMMISSIONER STUPAK 'CAUSE SHE HAS AN UPDATE FOR US.
YEAH, WELL YOU'VE GOT ALL, GOT A,
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UM, OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS AND PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE, UM, MATTERHORN IN.AND UM, THIS IS ONE THAT, UH, BOBBY AND I AND JACK NOT ALL TOGETHER WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, BUT
AND I, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THIS.
'CAUSE AT THE TIME, IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS SINCE BOBBY AND I WENT OUT THERE AND DID IT.
PROBABLY, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE MAYBE SOME INPUT FROM OUR NEW TEAM, BUT I'M THINKING, I MEAN, IT GOES WAY BACK INTO THE FIFTIES, 59, 57.
UH, AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY, 'CAUSE I STAYED THERE.
BUT BASICALLY THE, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME.
SO, UH, THIS IS UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS.
UM, AND UPDATE ON THE LANDMARK APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS ALSO PART OF THIS, AS I MENTIONED, TIERING THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR NEW TEAM ON BOARD, UM, WE'VE, AGAIN, THE ACTUAL EVALUATION OF THE LANDMARK APPLICATIONS IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT DOING AN A MORE IN DEPTH UPDATED SURVEY ON THESE TWO FROM THAT SIDE.
SO THAT, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE APPLICATION COMES TO YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, THE MORE IN DEPTH HISTORY OF THE BUILDINGS.
THE ONE, UH, THE PETERSON RANCH MM-HMM
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY COULD BE DOING THAT MORE CLOSELY TO THE BEGINNING? HERME IS FRAGILE.
I'M SO WORRIED THAT SHE'S, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THEY'RE, MY IMPRESSION THAT I GOT FROM TALKING WITH THEM WAS ONCE WE, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A, A CONTRACT FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
ONCE WE GO THROUGH AND GET SOMETHING SIGNED, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE EITHER ONE WOULD TAKE A TON OF TIME.
IT'S JUST GETTING THE PAPERWORK IN PLACE SO THAT, YEAH.
I, I'LL TELL YOU MY, MY CONCERN IS IF HER MEAN PASSES AWAY, SHE'S IN HER EIGHTIES AND SHE'S A DOLL.
I'M PREJUDICE, SHE'S A FRIEND, BUT, UH,
SHE PASSES THE WHOLE TRUST IN THE WHOLE THING.
THE AIR, I KNOW THAT ONE EAR WOULD BE FINE.
ONE EAR, I'M NOT SURE, LIKE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DELAY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY.
SO I KNOW I HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT.
AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS, BUT I JUST SORT OF, UH, I GUESS I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER SEE THAT HAPPEN.
SO I JUST, JUST BROUGHT IT UP.
CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE? THANKS CARRIE.
COMFORTABLE HAVING A GOOD TIME OVER HERE.
YEAH, I'M LEARNING A LOT TODAY.
UM, I'M A COUPLE PROPERTIES, UH, RIGHT NEXT TOWARD EACH OTHER TO ALBRIGHT.
HE'S NOT IN TOWN RIGHT NOW AND I GET FIND OUT WHEN HE'S GONNA GET BACK TO TOWN.
BUT I GOT A DEFINITE NO FROM THE OTHER, FROM GARY.
AND I THINK, UM, I THINK HIS WIFE GOT WIND OF IT OR SOMETHING.
BUT, BUT, UH, SO DEFINITE NO, IT'D EVEN DO A PRELIMINARY SURVEY SO IT WOULD NEVER BE, UM, UH, LISTED FOR SURE.
THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANYWAYS.
BUT TO ALBRIGHT, I STILL THINK WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TO DO THAT INITIAL SURVEY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELAYED TO THIS NEW ORGANIZATION WE'VE GOT.
WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE LIST IF HE'S WELL AND OPEN TO IT.
ALTHOUGH IT'S A SAME ERA AS, YOU KNOW, YOUR FRIENDS, BUT, 'CAUSE THEY CAN STAND DOWN THE STREET AND THAT GUY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAKE A NOTE OF.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT OFF THE, THE DEAL, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, FOR ME TO KNOW.
SO WHEN YOU APPROACH FOLKS ABOUT SURVEYING THEIR HOMES MM-HMM
AND THEY SAY NO, AND THEN YOU HAVE A GROUP LIKE THIS COME IN AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA SURVEY IT ANYWAYS, BUT FROM THE ROAD I WANT, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S HOW IT GOES DOWN, BUT YEAH.
YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M RIGHT.
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SO WHAT THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SURVEYING ARE UPDATING THE EXISTING LANDMARKS AND THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE EXISTING HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY THAT WERE DETERMINED TO BE POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE.SO THE ONES THAT WERE DETERMINED TO NOT BE ELIGIBLE WOULD NOT BE RESURVEYED.
UM, I THINK WAS KIND OF THE GENERAL THOUGHT.
OR THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT AND RESURVEY THEM.
UM, AND THE PRIMARY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, WE GOT ALL THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR SOME OF THE STUFF WITH NATE.
WE CAN CONTACT THEM AND IF THEY ALLOW US ON THEIR PROPERTY, THERE MAY BE A MORE EXTENSIVE SURVEY THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
AND THEN, UM, WE DO NOT HAVE THE BUDGET TO JUST GO AROUND TOWN, DRIVE AROUND AND SURVEY EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY.
THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE WITHIN THE BUDGET.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO WORK WITH, WITH THE COMMISSION, WITH THE CONSULTANT, WITH SOME CRITERIA THAT THEY HAVE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES ARE WE GOING TO ADD TO THE SURVEY.
SO IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS SAID LIKE, PLEASE DON'T SURVEY MY PROPERTY, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT AND DO THAT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON, SO WE'D HAVE, IF WE'D ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY WE GOT, MAKE SURE WE ALERT YES.
THAT, UH, THERE THEY WOULD BE, UH, IT MIGHT BOTHER THEM IF YOU, IF SOMEBODY SHOWED UP, THEY'D BE TO IT.
I THINK ANOTHER ISSUE TOO IS UM, UH, WHEN CYNTHIA WAS HERE AND WE STARTED, UM, LOOKING AT THE UPTOWN FOCUS AREA MM-HMM
UH, THAT, UM, THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THERE THAT, UM, I THINK SHOULD BE SURVEYED.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY, I KNOW THAT WE UPDATED THAT ONCE, UH, AERIAL MM-HMM
UM, SO WE, WE SHOULD DROP THAT ON THESE GUYS.
AND ACTUALLY THAT, THAT RAISES A QUESTION, UM, THAT'S RELATED TO BOTH A AND C, UM, THE UPTOWN CFA UPDATE.
IS THERE ANY, UM, OVERLAP WITH SOME OF THE WORK, UH, WITH BETWEEN THE SURVEY AND, AND POTENTIALLY WORK THAT'S HAPPENING THERE? OR IS THAT SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD THAT IT'S, UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT PROPERTIES WITHIN UPTOWN, UM, THE UPTOWN CFA.
IT'S A LITTLE OFF THE AGENDA, BUT WE ARE STARTING TO WORK ON THAT AGAIN.
AND SO ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY WILL LIKELY BE DONE WELL IN ADVANCE.
SO LIKE, SO THIS WILL BE DONE LIKELY BEFORE THE CFA WORK STARTS.
SO THE SURVEY WILL INFORM, COULD, WILL LIKELY, IT WILL LIKELY BE DONE BEFORE THE CFA WORK COMPLETES.
THEY THEY'LL PROBABLY BE STARTED ABOUT, WE'RE STARTING SOME OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THAT IS A MUCH LONGER PROCESS.
SO THAT COULD BE INFORMED BY THE SURVEY RATHER THAN VICE VERSA.
SO THE DATA FROM THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO INCORPORATE INTO THE UPTOWN CFA.
YEAH, I WAS JUST, I KNOW THAT ANSWERS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS HOW IN THE WORLD ARE THEY DOING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS DONE FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY? YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION
SO, AND ALSO, UM, DISTRICTS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD LOOK INTO BECAUSE UPTOWN SHOULD BE A DISTRICT RATHER THAN GOING INDIVIDUAL THAT WHOLE AREA.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY WOULD LOOK INTO.
I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING THAT UP AND SEE THE PROBLEM IS WITH THAT IS THAT UPTOWN IS ONE OF THE LEAST HOMOGENEOUS AREAS THAT WE HAVE.
AND AS A RESULT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE HOMOGENEITY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE VINTAGE OF THE PROPERTIES, THE ARCHITECTURE AND SO FORTH.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT SEVERAL OTHER AREAS IN, IN SEDONA AND LIKE MEDO ROAD.
WELL MEDO ROAD IS, THAT'S AN OBVIOUS ONE.
BUT I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THESE MID-CENTURY MODERNS THAT ARE SITTING THERE AND MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, WE OUGHT TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT MM-HMM
WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE UP IN THE SEDONA WEST SUBDIVISION THAT HOUSED OUR, SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS MAYORS, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY.
NOT NATIONAL OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY HOUSED A COUPLE OF MAYORS.
AND, UH, CITY COUNCILS AND STUFF.
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OF THINGS OVER, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO JUST EMAIL ME OR WRITE THEM DOWN AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM AT THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.LIKE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BETTER PLAN.
I MEAN, AND IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, THINK ABOUT WHY YOU KNOW THIS, THE WHY IT'S SIGNIFICANT MM-HMM
SO, AND WE'LL JUST KEEP ADDING TO THE LIST.
ALSO, AS I RECALL, JANINE TAVIAN PURSUED TRYING TO GET AN UPTOWN DISTRICT AND THEY ALSO CHECKED INTO ME, BUT THEY COULD NOT GET THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO AGREE.
SO UNLESS THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, YOU MAY ENCOUNTER THE SAME THING.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PARTICULAR STREET SHE INVOLVED IN THE UPTOWN IT, IT, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY REALLY MATTER FOR THIS.
WE'LL, WE'LL, YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT BEHIND THE SCENES.
SHE WENT INTO TROUBLE WITH SMITH.
SO, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE A DISTRICT?
AND TURN THEM INTO EITHER, UH, NATE OR TO YOU.
I SEND 'EM STRAIGHT TO CARRIE.
'CAUSE I WOULD JUST BE A MIDDLE PERSON IN THIS.
BUT, BUT THIS IS THE THING I WOULD JUST HIT FORWARD ANYWAY,
I, I WANT THEM TO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE.
ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHICH I GAVE A COUPLE.
AND, UH, I THINK JACK HAS SOME, SO, BUT AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GOING AROUND AND THINKING OF HISTORIC THINGS.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ALL YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT.
JUST AS YOU'RE
FUTURE MEETING DATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. UH, THE NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, JUNE 8TH AT 4:00 PM UM, SHOULD WE PLAN TO HOLD THAT MEETING? UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF, UM, PROGRESS WE, IT MIGHT DEPEND ON MAKE ON SOME OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY STUFF.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA BRING BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
AGAIN, LET'S PLAN TO HOLD THAT MEETING THEN.
UM, AND UH, IF THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANYTHING, WE'LL WE'LL TALK.
ANYTHING ANYONE WANTS TO ADD TO AN AGENDA? WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S OUT THERE?
UH, NO NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I DON'T BELIEVE.
UH, AND OUR COUNCIL ISN'T HERE ANYWAY,
UH, SO WE WILL ADJOURN AT 4 47.