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[PSPRS Board Meeting on June 4, 2026.]
10:00 AM STRAIGHT UP.LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS THE SEDONA PD LOCAL P-S-P-R-S, UH, BOARD MEETING THURSDAY, JUNE 4TH AT 10:00 AM LET, UH, PLEASE JOIN ME, UH, IF FOR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, MY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
PRESENT BOARD MEMBER CORY COOPERMAN, PRESENT AND BOARD MEMBER OFFICER MICHAEL LUCAS.
PRESENT BOARD MEMBER LIN OFFICE IS EXCUSE.
FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE SECOND OFFICIALLY IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS IN THE PACKET.
IT'S THE APRIL 2ND MEETING AND THE APRIL 2ND, THE REGULAR MEETING AND THE APRIL 2ND EXECUTIVE SESSION MINUTES ARE IN THE PACKET.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PACKET? HEARING NONE.
I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM.
UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
I HAVE FUN WITH THIS AND BE LIKE,
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
OPPOSED? SAY, HEY, IT IS UNANIMOUS.
THIRD ITEM MOUNT AGENDA IS THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC AND MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR HEARING DISCUSSION WITH POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPLICATION FOR ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY RETIREMENT FOR SERGEANT NATHAN DORFMAN, INCLUDING THE BOARD LEGAL REPRESENTATION FOR THE DURATION OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
BRENDA, WHY DON'T YOU TELL US HOW YOU DID AND WHAT'S IN OUR PACKET? WELL, UM, EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBLE WAY WE COULD SEARCH AND FIND AN ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT THE BOARD.
IT CONCLUDED CONTACTING RESOURCES, OTHER PEOPLE IN THE YES.
OTHER PS PSS, UM, REFERENCE ASKING OUR CITY ATTORNEY, OUR ATTORNEY HELPLINE.
UM, AND FINALLY FOUND, UM, ONE WHO WAS ABLE, UM, WE WERE RUNNING INTO, PEOPLE EITHER WEREN'T AVAILABLE OR THEY WEREN'T QUALIFIED, NOT RESPONDED TO ANY INQUIRY I PUT OUT.
UM, IT WAS AN EXHAUSTIVE SEARCH, BUT, UM, UH, THIS ONE ATTORNEY, UM, NICHOLAS CORNELIUS WAS REFERRED BY WICKENBURG, UM, P-S-P-R-S BOARD, UM, AS WHO THEY USE.
AND WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HIM, HE DID SEND HIS RESUME, WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET, UM, ALONG WITH HIS BIO.
UM, HE DOES REPRESENT OTHER BOARDS, INCLUDING PRESCOTT VALLEY, CITY OF PRESCOTT, AND YAVAPI COUNTY, UM, AS PART OF THEIR P-S-P-R-S BOARDS.
SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PRETTY GOOD FIT FOR WHAT WE WERE NEEDING.
HE WAS WILLING, UM, REVIEWED, YOU KNOW, HIS COST FOR HIS SERVICES, RAN THAT BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY, THEIR OFFICE, AND IT IS IN LINE WITH, UM, OUR CURRENT ATTORNEY.
AND HE PASSED THE CONFLICTS CHECK.
UM, YES, I DID SEND HIM AN EMAIL WITH THE, THE, THE NAME OF THE APPLICANT AND, UM, ASKED FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WOULD BE ANY CONFLICT.
AND HE SAID, NO CONFLICTS AND ASKED ME TO CALL HIM BY NICK, NOT NICHOLAS.
UM, THAT, UM, IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
SO ALL HIS INFORMATION THAT I HAVE HAS PROVIDED IS IN HIS PACKET, UM, INCLUDING I DID A, UH, A SAMPLE CONTRACT FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO HIM.
IF YOU ACCEPT HIM AS THE BOARD REPRESENTATION, THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO HIM.
UM, AND UPON ACCEPTANCE, THEN WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING A MEETING SCHEDULED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GO FROM THERE WITH THE PROCESS.
IT'S, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PACKET? IT, IT LOOKS FANTASTIC.
UH, SO TODAY WE'RE JUST DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT
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TO HIRE HIM.CAN WE ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CASE TODAY? NOT TODAY.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT IN PLACE.
SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE FORMALITY MEETING TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO USE HIM FOR HIS SERVICES, UM, GET THAT CONTRACT SIGNED AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
'CAUSE UM, YEAH, WE DON'T WANT TO, UM, ASK HIM, YOU KNOW, EMPLOY HIM WITHOUT, UNTIL THERE'S AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE, BRENDA, ABOUT HOW QUICKLY WE COULD MOVE FORWARD? I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GOT SOME TIME OFF COMING.
UM, AFTER THE MEETING I'LL GET WITH, UM, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN THE PROCUREMENT TO GET THE CONTRACT GENERATED IF IT'S ACCEPTED BY YOU GUYS, UM, TO GET THAT PUT IN MOTION, UM, GET IT TO HIM, REACH OUT TO HIM, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS SCHEDULE IS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE IS FINDING HIS TIME AND AVAILABILITY THAT WORKS FOR, UM, THE SCHEDULING A MEETING.
WILL RUSS BE ABLE TO WORK THOSE ISSUES IN YOUR ABSENCE? I DON'T KNOW.
UH, THERE'S A LOT ON RUSS'S PLATE RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'LL DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, HOW QUICKLY THIS ATTORNEY'S EVEN AVAILABLE.
THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE, THE NEXT STEP.
WHEN DO YOU, UH, WHEN IS YOUR VACATION WEEKEND? I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE AS OF NOON ON THE 17TH AND BACK ON THE 30TH.
SO WE'D EITHER HAVE TO DO IT BEFOREHAND, UH, HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING BEFOREHAND WITH, WITH THIS NEW LAWYER IF WE APPROVE HIM BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
THERE'S NOT AVAILABILITY FOR EITHER OF US IN HR OH.
WITH WHAT'S ALREADY PRESCHEDULED NEXT WEEK.
AND SERGEANT DORSMAN, IS HE STILL ON LIGHT DUTY OR HE IS ON LIGHT DUTY UHHUH? YES.
MICHAEL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO, I MEAN, IT ALL SEEMS PRETTY GOOD.
IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, SO YEAH.
IT'S BEEN QUITE THE PROCESS TO, TO FIND HIM.
WE'VE TURNED OVER ROCKS TO FIND SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO STEP IN FOR A ONE CASE ISSUE.
AND NOT WANTING TO, WELL, I CAN BE YOUR BOARD OF REPRESENTATION.
WELL, FOR JUST, JUST ONE CASE.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT OR I'M NOT QUALIFIED.
I WAS SENDING EMAILS, SENDING INQUIRIES THROUGH WEBSITES.
I WAS FAXING, UH, ANYTHING I COULD FIND TO, TO REACH OUT AND LITTLETON, NO RESPONSE.
AND YEAH, THOSE, UM, THIS, THIS ATTORNEY WAS FOUND, UM, RUSS ACTUALLY SENT OUT JUST A, AN EMAIL TO AN HR GROUP.
AND THAT'S HOW WE FOUND THIS GUY.
MOST EVERYBODY USES, UM, THE PREVIOUS BOARD THAT, OR ATTORNEY THAT THE BOARD HAD CYNTHIA CAME FROM.
BUT WE KNEW THERE WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE.
'CAUSE SERGEANT DORFMAN HAD NOTIFIED ME.
HE HAD, UM, USED THEM IN A PREVIOUS OH MY CASE.
SO THAT WAS, YEAH, THAT WAS A NO GO.
OR CYNTHIA, OUR CURRENT BOARD ATTORNEY.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT MOST PEOPLE USE.
SO WHEN WE STUMBLED UPON THIS GUY, I, YEAH, I WAS QUITE HAPPY AND EMAILED RIGHT AWAY AND HE, HE DID RESPOND FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UM, SO I'M HOPING THAT HE, UM, WILL CONTINUE TO BE RESPONSIVE, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS CASELOAD WORKLOAD SURE.
YOU KNOW, ANY OF THAT IS WITHOUT, UM, FURTHER CONTACT, SO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THERE'S A MOTION IN THE PACKET.
UH, NICHOLAS J CORNELIUS ESQUIRE FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF NICHOLAS J CORNELIUS, PLLC AS A SEDONA PD, PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM, LOCAL BOARD ATTORNEY REPRESENTATION FOR THE DURATION OF THE PROCESS FOR SERGEANT NATHAN DORFMAN'S, ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY RETIREMENT APPLICATION.
AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR AND SAY AYE.
SO I WILL REACH OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UM, AS SOON AS I CAN GET THE PROCESS SET UP THROUGH, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CONTRACT.
UM, ASSUMING THERE WOULD BE NO CONFLICTS WITH HIM FOR ASSIGNING THE CONTRACT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
I GUESS IF THERE IS A CONFLICT THEN WE'LL ADDRESS THAT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, FINGERS CROSSED THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE BACK, BACK TO SQUARE ONE, THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE GOOD.
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SO, OKAY.ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD VACANCIES.
SO, UM, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT, UM, LYNN IS MOVING OUT OF THE AREA.
UM, SHE IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AFTER THAT HER SEAT WILL BE VACANT.
UM, THE PUBLIC POSTING HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE TO FILL THAT SEAT.
AS OF MONDAY, THERE WERE NO APPLICATIONS RECEIVED BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UM, I WILL ASK OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS TO PLEASE PUT THAT OUT THERE AGAIN, UM, TO TRY AND GET SOME INTEREST.
UM, AND THEN OUR SECOND VACANCY CURRENTLY IS THE, UM, OTHER SWORN POLICE, UM, SEAT, THE FOUR YEAR SEAT, UM, WITH THE RESIGNATION OF SERGEANT PERONE, UM, FROM HIS POLICE DUTIES.
UM, AND OFFICER LUCAS'S TERM IS UP IN AUGUST.
SO I HAVE STARTED, HE'S GOT THE TWO YEAR SEAT.
UM, I HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS FOR NOMINATIONS WITH THE SWORN PD PERSONNEL.
UM, SO THAT IS UNDERWAY AND HAVE ASKED THEM TO HAVE NOMINATIONS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FOUR YEAR SEAT THAT WAS VACATED BY SERGEANT PERONE AND A NEW NOMINATION FOR THE TWO YEAR SEAT.
UM, TO HAVE THOSE TO ME BY THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH OF JUNE SO THAT I CAN THEN START THE ELECTION PROCESS THE FIRST PART OF JULY TO GET SOMEBODY IN PLACE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE NO LATER THAN AUGUST WHEN, UH, WHEN OFFICER LUCAS'S SEAT IS, UM, UP.
BOY, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN JUST TO COMPLETE THE CIRCLE, COREY, WHEN'S YOUR TURN? WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT I'VE LEARNED IT'S NEXT AUGUST.
AND, UM, I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO TERMINATE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
I'M TAKING, WE ARE TAKING OVER CARE OF OUR 12-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON FOR MAYBE SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
YEAH, HE'S WELCOME TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
SO IT JUST, JUST WITH OTHER THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING FOR, FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
SO THROUGH THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
UH, SO THEN, UM, ONCE YEAH, MAYBE THIS, THIS FALL WE CAN UHHUH WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU NEED TO AND THEN, UM, AND GET THE PROCESS MOVEMENT FROM POST IT.
AND THEN MY SPOT, WE'LL TURN OVER.
AND NOVEMBER OFFICIALLY WHEN I'M OFF.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS BECAUSE THE, THE NEW COUNCIL TYPICALLY TAKES THOSE ACTIONS IN JANUARY.
SO HOW DO WE, LET'S UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE ABOUT.
WE SURE HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
UH, YEAH,
IS IT JANUARY? IS IT DECEMBER? SO WE'RE INSTALLING OUR, OUR NEW PEOPLE IN DECEMBER FOR THE FIRE, FOR THE FIRE BOARD.
I'LL BE LEAVING AND MY TERM WILL BE ON.
I'LL EXPRESS AN INTEREST THEN IN SHIFTING OVER TO BEING ONE OF THE PUBLIC MEMBERS AFTER.
OH, IN THE FALL, IF YOU'RE, WE HAVE A NEW CHAIR BECAUSE THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEN, THEN WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL, MAYOR, THEN THERE WOULD BE A SEAT TO FILL FOR YEP.
SO AGAIN, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THIS YEAR, MORE SO THAN WE'VE EVER HAD, SO, YEAH.
ANY OTHER, SO THAT'S JUST, OR QUESTIONS ON THAT SUMMARY OF ALL THAT GOING ON, SO.
NEXT TIME OUR, UH, ON OUR AGENDA IS, UH, IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING MEETINGS AND AGENDA ITEMS. OUR NEXT MEETING IS TENTATIVELY PRE-SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 6TH.
UM, THERE ACTUALLY TODAY THERE ARE TWO RECRUITS GRADUATING FROM POLICE ACADEMY TODAY.
UM, SO MONDAY THEY WILL BE IN WITH ME THAT WILL START THEIR PROCESS FOR, UM, THEIR ELECTION PERIOD FOR THEIR RETIREMENT.
UM, SO WE HAVE, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS NOTICE THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM BEFORE WE HAVE THEM AGENDIZED FOR THEIR, UM, APPROVAL TO, UM, MEMBERSHIP APPROVAL.
UM, SO DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS FALL, NO LATER THAN THAT AUGUST MEETING WOULD, UM, THEY WOULD BE AGENDIZED ON THERE.
UM, IF THE TIMING WORKS WHERE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING REGARDING SERGEANT DORFMAN'S APPLICATION, I CAN ALWAYS PUT THOSE ON THEM ON, YOU KNOW, THAT AGENDA.
UM, IT'LL JUST DEPEND ON THE TIMING,
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BUT FOR SURE, IF NOT BEFORE AUGUST 6TH, THERE WOULD BE THAT, UM, MEETING FOR, FOR THEIR MEMBERSHIPS.UM, MY ASSUMPTION IS THERE WILL BE A MEETING BEFORE THEN, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW TIMING WISE.
GIVING THEM THEIR, THEIR 30 DAY NOTICE BEFORE, UM, THEY'RE AGENDIZED.
SO I PERSONALLY HAVE A, A CONFLICT ON THE AUGUST 6TH TIMEFRAME 'CAUSE I'M SERVING ON THAT COUNTY WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE.
AND FOR THE EIGHT O'CLOCK TIME FOR THE, OR 'CAUSE EIGHT O'CLOCK IS WHEN IT WOULD BE PRE-SCHEDULED FOR.
SO I HAVE TO BE IN COTTONWOOD AT NINE.
SO IF IT WAS JUST LETTING THE NEW FOLKS IN AND WITH NOTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA, WE CAN MEET AT EIGHT AND GET IT DONE.
BUT IF DORFMAN'S ITEM IS ON OUR AGENDA, IF THERE'S SOMETHING FOR THAT YEAH.
ARE WE GONNA TRY AND GET THE NATE'S THING BEFORE THEN OR? YEAH.
OH, WE, WITH NOTHING ELSE? A MEETING WITH THE UM, ATTORNEY.
SO THAT QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THE ATTORNEY FOR THE NEXT STEPS, UM, WOULD BE, UM, YEAH.
THAT MEETING WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THEN.
MY ASSUMPTION IS BEFORE THEN, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DISCUSSING WITH, WITHOUT KNOWING HIS SCHEDULE.
I GOT SOMETHING PRE-SCHEDULED WHERE HE'S NOT AVAILABLE BUT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY INDICATION OF THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I DIDN'T ASK HIM DETAILS UNTIL HE WAS APPROVED.
SO, BUT I WILL BE IN CONTACT AS SOON AS I KNOW MORE.
UM, I'D SAY IN THE MEANTIME, MAYBE HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS READY FOR THAT NEXT MEETING.
UM, HE WILL BE ATTENDING VIA, UM, ZOOM.
ZOOM OR TEAMS UHHUH VIRTUALLY, UM, BECAUSE HE IS DOWN IN THE VALLEY AND HE SAID THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BEST FOR HIM TO COMMUNICATE THAT WAY TOO.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO NOT PAYING FOR HIS EXACTLY.
VIRTUAL OPTION BECAUSE IT'S AVAILABLE.
SO, UM, ALSO AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ABOUT IMEI HAVE STARTED TRYING TO LOCATE IME, UHHUH
SO NOW I'M HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT IS GOING OH MY TO WORK.
BUT, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS WAS CAN WE, UM, DESIGN, CAN WE REQUEST SOMEBODY WHO'S AN ORTHOPEDIC SPECIALIST RIGHT.
FOR THE IM E WHICH SEEMS IMPORTANT, UM, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO THAT OR NOT.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS FOR THE LAWYER.
THE, SO I'M, I'M HOPING THAT, UM, ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM, YOU KNOW, THE ATTORNEY, THEN THAT'LL GIMME MORE DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU KNOW, WHERE TO GO AS FAR AS THE DOCTOR.
HE MAY HAVE SOME IDEAS HIMSELF TOO.
AS A FUTURE AND AGENDA ITEM WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT, LET'S UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT CONTRACT IS FOR IME LOCATING SERVICE.
SO MAYBE WE, WE IMPLEMENT THAT, HAVE THAT AS A STANDBY FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, LIKELY.
UM, I CAN MAYBE AT LEAST GET SOME INFORMATION TO YEAH.
TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND COSTS AND ALL THAT STUFF BECAUSE I, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS COMING FROM BOARDS DOWN IN THE VALLEY THAT PROBABLY HAVE MORE FREQUENT NEED.
ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING OR COMMENTS ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS? HEARING NONE, WE CAN CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10 20.