* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ARE [00:00:01] YOU FAITH IN ? I AM. OKAY. I RAN TRACK FAITH IN HIGH SCHOOL. OH, YOU OKAY? YEAH. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? OH, STACY NEWTON. STACY. I WAS STACEY. WOW. SMALL WORLD. SHE, SHE WAS RAISED RIGHT? ? YEAH. GOOD JOB. WELL, FAITH LIVES IN IDAHO AND HOPE LIVES IN NEW YORK CITY, SO I DIDN'T KNOW. WELL, BUT, UM, REALLY SWEET FAMILY . WELL, THANK YOU. SHE'S, YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. WELL I'M GLAD YOU FOLLOW HER. THAT'S GREAT. I WANNA BE LIKE HER. . WELL, ARE ALL THE PARTIES HERE? YEP. YEAH. YOU FOLKS READY TO PROCEED? YEAH. OKAY. UH, IS THE CITY READY TO PROCEED? ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS, UH, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT A HEARING, HEARING INTO ORDER, UH, FOR THE, ARE WE ON THE RECORD? WE ARE. OKAY. FOR THE RECORD, TODAY'S DATE IS JUNE 9TH, 2026. UH, THIS IS DATE AND TIME SET FOR A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HEARING, UH, IN CASE NUMBER VAR 26 0 0 0 0 2 DNB ASSETS. LLC IS THE OWNER, CHAD DEWITT IS THE APPLICANT. AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE MR. JORDAN NEWTON. YES, SIR. OKAY. WE USUALLY BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO WHY DON'T WE ALL STAND AND I'LL LEAD US IN THAT I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION AND ALL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. UM, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE DONE THESE. UM, I'M PRESUMING WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST. IS THAT CORRECT? HOW DO WE DO THESE USUALLY? IT'S AN ENTIRELY UP TO YOU, SIR. OKAY. SO MR. NEWTON, I, UH, FOR THE RECORD I HAVE READ THROUGH THE PACKET. I THINK I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, WHAT YOU WERE REQUESTING. BUT WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND SUMMARIZE THAT AND TELL ME ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU THINK I NEED TO KNOW AND I MIGHT INTERRUPT YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT HAVE WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT. YEAH, I JUST INTRODUCED MYSELF. MY NAME'S JORDAN NEWTON. UM, I GREW UP AND BORN AND RAISED HERE. MY, MY, I HAVE FOUR KIDS AND THEY'RE EIGHT GENERATION NATIVE TO SEDONA. SO MY GREAT GRANDPA WAS THE FIRST REGISTERED CONTRACTOR IN SEDONA. SO WOW. JUST A LITTLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE THING I TELL PEOPLE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT LONG, UM, SINCE 1912. OUR FAMILY HOMESTEADED WHERE THE GRASSHOPPER FLATS MESA 160 ACRES AND, UH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT LAND ANYMORE. I WISH WE STILL OWN THAT . SO WE, THIS IS OUR ONLY LITTLE PIECE WE HAVE AND, UM, I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR NOW. LIKE I SAID, I'VE NEVER DONE ONE OF THESE. IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF WORK IN LEARNING JUST TO GET TO THIS POINT. SO, UM, CAN I JUST INTERRUPT YOU THERE? I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THIS PROPERTY? UH, I BOUGHT IT TWO YEARS AGO. TWO YEARS AGO? YEAH. AND HAS IT CHANGED ANY SINCE YOU OWNED IT? UH, PURCHASED IT. UH, WE DEMOED ALL THE OLD CONCRETE STUFF OUT OF THERE AND THEN WE, WE LANDSCAPED IT AND WE PUT PLANTS ALL AROUND THE OUTSIDE AND GOT IT LOOKING NICE 'CAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE IF WE'D BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. SO WE WOULD JUST TAKE THE KIDS THERE AND KIND OF PLAY MADE. WE'D CAMP THERE A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR MM-HMM . BUT, UM, WE GOT IT LOOKING NICE AND THEN I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GONNA, I KNEW IT WAS GONNA TAKE A WHILE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GONNA TAKE THIS LONG TO GET EVERYTHING GOING. YOU KNOW, I'M STILL, I'M NOT TOTALLY SURE ON THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT, UM, FROM WHAT I'VE LEARNED GOING TO MEETINGS AND THINGS, MY, I GOTTA TRY TO, UH, SHOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST A CONVENIENCE THAT IT'S, I HAVE TO SHOW THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY NO OTHER WAY TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS PROPERTY BESIDES THE WAY THAT WE PRESENTED IN THE PAPERWORK. UM, UH, REMIND ME AGAIN, AND MAYBE THE CITY CAN JUMP IN. WHAT IS THIS PROPERTY ZONED AS? IT'S GONNA BE ZONED RSS 10, SO THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND DID YOU BUY IT WITH THE INTENTION OF PUTTING A, A RESIDENCE ON IT OF SOME SORT? YEAH. [00:05:01] UH, LIKE I WAS KIND OF MISLED BY THE REAL ESTATE AGENT. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT, IT KIND OF BEEN ALREADY SET UP AND I COULD PUT LIKE A MOBILE OR BUILD A HOUSE ON IT. AND THEN WHEN I GOT INTO IT, IT ACTUALLY, WITH THE SETBACKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON IT, I CAN ONLY BUILD LIKE A 12 FOOT WIDE HOME. AND SO TO TRY TO GET ANY FUNDING OR SOMEBODY GIVE A LOAN ON IT, NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO PUT TO GIMME A LOAN TO BUILD A LITTLE SKINNY HOUSE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE CITY WOULD EVEN APPROVE BUILDING A 12 FOOT WIDE MM-HMM . HOUSE. I NOTICED, UH, WHEN I WENT TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A SORT OF A, A STEEL STRUCTURE FRAMING STRUCTURE. WAS THAT THERE BEFORE YOU PURCHASED IT OR THERE WAS AN OLD, THERE WAS A WOODEN SHADE STRUCTURE THERE AND SO WE REPLACED IT AND I PUT THAT THERE AND PUT HAMMOCKS AND STUFF ON. BUT AT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THAT ALL OUT BECAUSE IT'S, I DIDN'T REALIZE, EVEN THOUGH I LOST MY NON-CONFORMING STATUS WHEN THEY TOOK OUT THE FOUNDATION. SO EVEN THOUGH I BUILT THAT BACK IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT, THEY SAID I GOTTA TAKE THAT OUT. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THAT OUT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD A RESIDENCE, UH, BUT UH, SINCE YOU'RE NO LONGER NON-CONFORMING, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TYPICALLY APPLY WITH THE SETBACKS, UH, AND THOSE SETBACKS, UH, PRETTY MUCH DON'T LEAVE. IF YOU APPLIED THOSE, YOU WOULD BE BUILDING A PRETTY SMALL STRUCTURE, CORRECT? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE SEEKING A VARIANCE OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. UM, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST THE ONE SETBACK ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. CORRECT? YEAH. I TRIED TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT WORK WITH A FAIRLY AVERAGE SIZE RESIDENTIAL AND STILL HAVE PARKING WHATEVER WE NEED IF WE JUST, AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING I WAS TRYING TO RELAYING THOSE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, I I MET WITH ALL THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. ALL THE OTHER HOMES ARE SET THAT SAME PLACE AT. I JUST WANT TO TRY TO BE IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THERE. SO WE'RE TALKING BASICALLY A TWO FOOT SETBACK YEAH. AS OPPOSED TO A 20 FOOT SETBACK. YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT'S, YOU SAY THAT'S TYPICAL WITH ALL THE OTHER HOMES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY BUILT THERE? YEAH. WITH THE TWO, YEAH. PRETTY MUCH UP THAT WHOLE ROW THERE. THEY'RE ALL TWO TO THREE FOOT OFF THAT BACK PROPERTY LINE. AND I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE SOME LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UM, AND THOSE ARE TO SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHERE THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WRITTEN LETTERS OF SUPPORT WHERE THEY, UH, LIVE IN RELATION TO YOUR PROPERTY? UM, IF THIS IS A PROPERTY HERE, AND THIS IS NORTH, ONE OF THE OWNERS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS HERE. HE OWNS THIS HOME. THAT'S TIM. HE WROTE A LETTER. UM, THE OTHER GUY THAT LIVES DIRECTLY ADJACENT ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, HIS NAME'S DAVID. HE OWNS THIS. HE BOUGHT THAT ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. AND THE OTHER NEIGHBOR THAT'S ADJACENT ON THIS SIDE, UM, HE WROTE ME A LETTER TOO. TWO JOSEPH? YEAH, JOSEPH. AND THEN I MET WITH THE GUY ON THE BACKSIDE. HE OWNS THE BIG PROPERTY, BUT HE SAID I PROBABLY, I A LETTER FROM HIM PROBABLY WOULDN'T HELP 'CAUSE HE'S DEALING WITH ISSUES TRYING TO GET HIS PROPERTY, UM OKAY. TAKEN CARE OF. SO . OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO PRESENT? THE OTHER THING WITH THE WAY THAT, UM, THAT ROAD PASSES THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN EASEMENT OR IF IT'S WHAT IT TECHNICALLY IS CALLED DOWN THAT THE NEIGHBORS, THE ONE THING THEY ASKED IS IF WE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, IF I COULD INCORPORATE SOME TYPE OF, UH, SIDE DITCH DRAINAGE OR INTO THE DRAINAGE PLAN TO WHERE IT KEPT FROM ERODING OUT THAT ROAD. AND I, THAT'S THE ONE THING I TOLD THEM, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN, THAT WE'D, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A, I WOULD ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE A, A DRAINAGE PLAN ANYWAYS, BUT I TOLD 'EM I'D TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T DAMAGE THE ROAD ANYMORE AND IT DIDN'T, UH MM-HMM . DAMAGE ANY OF THEIR HOMES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PRETTY DISTINCT DRAINAGE BEHIND THE HOUSE AND IN THE FRONT. I JUST GOTTA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY GO BACK TO THOSE SAME SPOTS. OKAY. SO IS THAT A JUST A NATURAL DRAINAGE OR IS IT SOMETHING MANMADE? UH, IT'S MOSTLY JUST A NATURAL DRAINAGE, BUT THOSE OLDER ROADS DIDN'T HAVE ANY BAR DITCHES OR CULVERTS IN PLACE. MM-HMM . SO IT KIND OF JUST GOES WHEREVER. [00:10:01] SO MY LOT'S BEEN OPEN, SO IT FLOWS JUST WHEREVER. SO EVENTUALLY I JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE DO THAT WE KEEP THE WATER GOING IN THE SAME SPOTS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . OR A RETENTION AREA ON THERE OR SOMETHING. MM-HMM . SO, OKAY. THAT WAS THE ASK OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND OTHER THAN THAT, I SHOWED THEM THE IDEA AND THE PLANS AND THEY, UH, THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE TO THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S SOME NICER HOMES AND THERE'S SOME REALLY JUNKY HOUSES STILL IN THERE, BUT IT'S A NICE AREA, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . UM, OKAY. WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK, UH, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY. UH, ANYTHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO PRESENT IN TERMS OF THEIR POSITION ON THIS? UH, YES SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, SHOULD YOU MAKE THE VARIANCE FINDINGS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE CITY DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE, BUT WE DO REQUEST, UM, THE THREE CONDITIONS OF VARIANCE ON PAGE 10 THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS. AND, UH, ALEX ORTEGA IS AVAILABLE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE A PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE. OKAY. UH, ONE QUESTION I HAVE, IS THIS THE FIRST, UH, VARIANCE, UH, IN THIS AREA? ARE ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES STILL EXISTING NONCONFORMING USES? YES. THE OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG HERE, UM, THEY'VE EITHER ALL THE HOUSES THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT DON'T MEET SETBACKS, BUT THEY'RE ALL ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE CITY'S INCORPORATION OR THEY'VE, THE RENOVATIONS THAT THEY'VE DONE HAVE FALLEN WITHIN THE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING ALLOWANCES. OKAY. 'CAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME PRETTY UPGRADED PROPERTIES THERE THAT I NOTICED, BUT, UH, UM, I WAS JUST SO, SO MR. NEWTON, YOU'RE KIND OF SETTING A PRECEDENT HERE, I GUESS. UM, SO THE OTHER HOUSES THAT, UM, WHEN THEY RENOVATED, IF THEY WERE RENOVATING AN EXISTING BUILDING AND WEREN'T IN OR DECREASING THE SETBACK FURTHER, WE WOULD'VE ALLOWED THAT MM-HMM . SETBACK TO CONTINUE WITHOUT FORCING THEM TO COME INTO FULL COMPLIANCE. WHEN YOU RENOVATE, ISN'T THERE SOME LIMITS ON THE PERCENTAGE YOU CAN EXPAND THE EXISTING PRODUCT? YEAH. FOR SINGLE FAMILY IT'S A 50% INCREASE TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. MM-HMM . UM, AND SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT GOING ABOVE THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME. SO THE THING THAT MADE THIS NON-CONFORMING WAS WHAT MR. NEWTON'S TAKING OUT THE CEMENT. IS THAT WHAT I FOUNDATION REMOVAL OF THE BUILDING. THE WHAT? REMOVAL? THE REMOVAL OF THE STRUCTURE. WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE WAS THERE BEFORE? I THINK IT WAS A MOBILE HOME. YEAH. AND IT, THEY, EXCUSE ME, THEY DID THAT BE RIGHT BEFORE THEY SOLD ME THE LOT? THEY HAD JUST, I GUESS TAKEN THAT OUT AND THEN THE, I HAD, THEY HAVE SIX MONTHS RIGHT. TO REAPPLY AND THEY, BY THE TIME I GOT ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, I'D ALREADY FELL OUT OF THE NON-CONFORMING TIME PERIOD. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW. OKAY. JUST THE TIME CUT UP WITH YOU THEN, HUH? I NOTICED THERE'S A, A SMALL LIKE STORAGE BUILDING. IT'S KIND OF A SUBSTANTIAL BRICK BUILDING, UH, ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN THERE ALL THE TIME. RIGHT. YEAH. AND I WAS GOING TO, IF I COULD MAKE IT WORK, UM, AS I TALKED WITH SOME OF THE GUYS AT THE CITY, THEY SAID ONCE, IF I GOT THIS APPROVED AND WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN STAGE, I COULD GET THAT, UH, INCLUDED AS, UM, PART OF THE NEW BUILD GET IT, IT WAS, IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER, BUT MM-HMM . GET IT, UH, I DUNNO WHAT THE WORD IS FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT IN AS PART OF THE NEW STRUCTURE PERMIT, EVERYTHING PERMITTED OR JUST TAKE IT OUT, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, DOES THE EXISTENCE OF THAT, THE CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THAT BUILDING, WOULDN'T THAT LEND ITSELF TO CONTINUING THE NON-CONFORMING USE OR NOT REALLY? SINCE IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, THAT'D BE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. YEAH. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE HERE. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. VERY WELL, WELL, UH, SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE CITY IS THEY REALLY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE VARIANCE. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS MATTER. AND SO I WILL OPEN THIS HEARING UP TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT ANYONE IS ASKED TO SPEAK, SIR, YOU HAVE A CARD? UH, NO. OH, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU STAND TO THAT PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. I'M DAN WILLS. I AM, UH, WITH THE MISSION HILLS PROPERTY, ASSO PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, UH, THERE, AND I DON'T T MARY'S NOT A DEEDED ROAD. IS IT? SAY THAT AGAIN. ER LANE. THIS, THAT'S THE, THE STREET THAT THIS MM-HMM [00:15:01] . PROPERTY'S ON. MM-HMM. I DON'T THINK THAT'S DEEDED TO THE CITY, IS IT? IF I COULD ANSWER SIR, GO AHEAD. UH, IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD. IT'S NOT A CITY DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, ANYWAY, THE, UH, UH, ALL THOSE HOUSES THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, I WON'T SAY AN ISSUE, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A, A CONVERSATION POINT. 'CAUSE SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY HAVE NO SETBACKS WHATSOEVER. THEY'RE LITERALLY RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT'S, THEY'VE NEVER BEEN A PARTICULAR ISSUE. THAT PARCEL THERE, I BELIEVE IS TWO SOME ACRES, UH, THE LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE MISSION HEALTH SIDE. SO, UM, I THINK AS LONG AS, AND IF YOU'VE TALKED TO, AND I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME THAT HAS THAT LARGE PARCEL THERE. OH, YEAH. UM, I THINK HIS NAME'S DAVID. OKAY. UH, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET, IN ORDER FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE USE OF THAT PROPERTY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE SETBACKS AREN'T REASONABLE. OKAY. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE MODIFIED. SO, UH, I, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS. OKAY. I WOULD ASK THAT THE, ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF SETBACKS OBVIOUSLY IS EXPOSURE CONTROL. SO I WOULD ASK MAYBE JUST TO FLY IT BY THE FARM MARSHAL OVER AT THE DISTRICT, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HEARTACHE WITH IT, BUT I CAN'T SEE THAT THEY WOULD. UM, BUT IT, UH, UM, THIS IS JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE THINGS OF TRYING TO, THERE'S CONFORMAL PROPERTY ALL OVER THE CITY AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT RIGHT. IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT INTO A, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE STRUCTURE, I THINK THAT, UH, MODIFYING THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. ALSO, I, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU, UH, UM, SEND YOU JUST A COURTESY, JUST, UH, PUT THE PLANS, UH, YOUR ELEVATION TO THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNER THERE AND LET 'EM SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD. AND THAT'S JUST A COURTESY THING WE ALWAYS ASK OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN, IN CONSTRUCTION. LET 'EM SEE WHAT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, MOST THINGS ARE FINE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO A PINK GEODESIC DOME, SOMEBODY'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE. WE'RE AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST, UH, YOU JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. SO IT'S NOT A, WE CAN'T, WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING. YEAH. I JUST LET 'EM HAVE A LOOK AT IT JUST AS A COURTESY. THERE'S SOME VIEW SHED ISSUES OFF TO THE, OFF TO THE EAST THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING INSURMOUNTABLE. AND, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THAT THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN, UM, TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, USE PROPERTY OWNERS USE IN, IN THAT ARY LANE. THINGS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE. SO, BUT FROM OUR STANDPOINT ON THE WEST SIDE HERE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DAN. SORRY I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU AT FIRST. UH, WHAT IS THE NEAREST PROPERTY TO THIS IN MISSION HILLS? CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? I'M JUST CURIOUS. YOUR SUBDIVISION IS JUST RIGHT THERE. AND WHAT'S THE NEAREST HOUSE TO THIS PROPERTY? YOU LOOK ON THE LOT, UH, ON THE PLAT HERE, THERE IS THAT ONE LARGE LOT AND, UH, THAT GOES FROM THE END OF SANTA BARBARA AND HAS TWO STRUCTURES ON IT. THE MAIN RESIDENCE IS OFF TO THE, OFF TO THE NORTH AND THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, 3,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE UP THERE. AND THEN THERE'S A, A SEPARATE GARAGE, UH, THAT'S JUST ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HERE. IT'S A GARAGE WITH AN APARTMENT OVER THE TOP OF IT. MM-HMM . AND, UH, LARRY KAISER BUILT THAT ON A VARIANCE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO. UH, AND IT, UH, UH, THERE ARE ORIGINALLY THREE LOTS IN THERE AND THAT'S ALL BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE SINGLE LARGE PARCEL. I WOULDN'T BE AMAZED IF SOMEBODY TAKES A RUN AT SPLITTING IT UP AGAIN. BUT, UH, THERE IS THAT GARAGE OCCUPANCY THERE. IT'S A STUCCO TWO STORY BUILDING WITH A, UM, I DON'T KNOW, A MOTHER-IN-LAW HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CHARACTERIZE IT ON THE SECOND FLOOR. MM-HMM . YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS WITHIN ALMOST TWO FEET FROM THE AERIAL, AT LEAST THAT I'M LOOKING AT. IT LOOKS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. YEAH, IT'S NOT, UH, YEAH, IF IT WAS FIVE FEET, IT'D BE A LOT. SO, AND THEN YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT EXPOSURE CONTROL OR WHAT WAS THE TERM YOU USED? WELL, ONE OF THE WHOLE THINGS ABOUT SETBACKS IS, IS WHAT DOES A, WHAT DOES A STRUCTURE, A FIRE, A STRUCTURE ON FIRE PROVIDE IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT ARE THE EXPOSURES TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. MM-HMM . AND UH, SO I SAID THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF SETBACKS ARE, ARE GENERATED ON THAT. SO THE FIRE DISTRICT HAS ACCESS TO ALL SIDES OF, OF A STRUCTURE. YEAH. IT'S KIND OF NICE IN THEORY, BUT THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. OKAY. CERTAINLY NOT GONNA GET A VEHICLE OR AN ENGINE OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE. RIGHT. SO IT, UH, UH, LIKE I SAID, JUST AS A COURTESY OF THE FIRE DISTRICT, I, I'D, UH, JUST MM-HMM . JUST PUT A NOTE OVER THERE THAT THIS, THIS THING IS GONNA BE A, A LIMITED SETBACK. YEAH. OKAY. WELL THANKS FOR THAT. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF [00:20:01] THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THIS HEARING? NOT SEEING ANY, WE'LL BRING IT BACK. UH, UH, ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE CITY WANNA PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. WELL, UM, IN THAT CASE, I WILL TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT. I WILL PREPARE A WRITTEN OPINION. UH, I'LL ADDRESS THE FACTORS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED IN WHETHER THE VARIANCE SHOULD BE GRANTED OR NOT. I THINK THE PACKET IS REVIEWED, THOSE PRETTY WELL. AND, UH, UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM ANY OF THE PARTIES, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND STAND ADJOURNED. OH, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. SORRY. GREAT. WASN'T IT YOU RAN CROSS COUNTRY WITH NO, IT WAS, WERE YOU, UH, PART OF THAT WINNING THAT STATE CHAMPIONSHIP WHEN YOU WERE WELL, I ACTUALLY HAD AN INJURY, SO I, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW. SO, NO, I DIDN'T GET TO RIGHT AT THE END, BUT I WAS A PART OF MOST OF IT, SO IT WAS REALLY EXCITED. BUT YEAH, NICE MEETING YOU. IT'S VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN SO I CAN TELL HIM. AND I WAS STACY. CAP WELL YOU'RE THE BETTER LOOKING VERSION OF IT TOO, SO CHRISTIAN, SO HAPPY TO HELP. OF COURSE. I'M SURE WE STILL BOTH ARE . ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. WELL MENTION, I SAW YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU. THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.