Jun 24, 2026 City Council

WE HAVE SPECIAL BUSINESS TODAY, AB 33 24.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU READ THE ROLL PLEASE? MAYOR PLU.

[3.a. AB 3324 Discussion/presentation of a version of the G-402: Incident Command System Overview for Senior Officials course.]

DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION OF A VERSION OF THE C 4 0 2 INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM OVERVIEW FOR SENIOR OFFICIALS COURSE.

AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME CHANCE AND OUR EMERGENCY MANAGERS FROM YAVAPAI AND COCONINO COUNTIES.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AGAIN, I'M CHANCE OCK, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR WITH THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M JOINED BY BOTH OUR COUNTY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTORS TODAY, IF THEY'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M ASHLEY QUIS, UH, YI COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGER.

AND GOOD AFTERNOON ALL.

I'M TIM CARTER FROM COCONINO COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

AND PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY,

SO WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR SENIOR OFFICIALS COURSE TODAY.

CURRENTLY WE'RE SLATED FOR FOUR HOURS ON THE AGENDA.

AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S THE CONDENSED VERSION, BUT, UH, WE'RE PLANNING ON JUST AN EFFICIENT COUPLE HOURS TO GET THROUGH ALL THE MATERIAL WITH YOU.

UM, THIS IS GONNA INCLUDE WHERE YOUR ROLE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL BE INSIDE THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM, OUR ROLES AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR KIND OF AN INTERACTIVE DIALOGUE, INTER INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION ON WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE FOR US INSIDE OF DISASTERS AND EMERGENCIES.

SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA COVER, OUR GOALS FOR THIS ARE PROVIDING A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF NIMS, DISCUSSING HOW THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF NIMS, US AND THE EOC EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WORK TOGETHER TO INCREASE OUR RESPONSE TO DISASTERS AND EMERGENCIES AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE VITAL ROLE THAT SENIOR LEADERSHIP AND ELECTED OFFICIALS PLAY IN THIS DISASTER RESPONSE.

BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE CITY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

SO WE'VE INSTALLED AND BROUGHT ONLINE THREE OUTDOOR WARNING SIREN SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE LOCATED AT THE 2 21 BREWER ROAD BUILDING FOREST ROAD PARKING GARAGE, AND THEN ALSO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ARIZONA WATER COMPANY, ONE OF THEIR WATER TOWERS, UM, ON 35 THOMPSON TRAIL.

THESE ARE ALL HAZARD SYSTEMS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE MEANT TO BE USED FOR ANY TYPE OF LIFE SAFETY EMERGENCY AFFECTING THE CITY.

BUT WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC MESSAGING DRAFTED FOR INCIDENTS SUCH AS WILDFIRES FOR FLOODING, AND ALSO GENERAL EMERGENCIES.

WE'VE HELD INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM TRAINING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF AND DEPARTMENT HEADS.

AND THIS PRESENTATION TODAY REALLY IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT TRAINING TO YOU AS CITY COUNCIL.

WE HAVE SEVEN CITY STAFF THAT HAVE OPENED ARIZONA QUALIFICATION SYSTEM POSITION TASK BOOKS.

THAT'S A CREDENTIALING PROGRAM TO QUALIFY YOU TO WORK ON ALL HAZARDS, INCIDENTS AND EMERGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE.

AND WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON WHAT A QS, THE ARIZONA QUALIFICATION SYSTEM IS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

WE'VE MADE ENHANCEMENTS TO OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER LOCATED INSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THESE HAVE REALLY INCREASED OUR EFFECTIVENESS AND OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO DISASTERS AND EMERGENCIES.

SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE INCLUDED ADDITIONAL MONITORS FOR UOC STAFF DOUBLING OUR CAPACITY TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AND GET SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OF EMERGING INCIDENTS.

WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL MAPPING APPLICATIONS TO IMPROVE OUR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.

WE UTILIZE INCIDENT ACTION PLANS NOW TO GUIDE OUR OPERATIONS, ESTABLISH DOCUMENTS THAT ARE IN INDUSTRY STANDARD.

AND WE'VE ALSO DONE SELF SERVICE BOOSTING JUST TO INCREASE OUR CELLULAR COMMUNICATIONS, INCREASE THE ABILITY OF INFORMATION TO GET IN AND OUTTA THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

WE'RE ALSO CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP REVISIONS TO OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.

THAT'S GONNA BRING IT INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE LATEST STATE AND COUNTY GUIDANCE, BRING IT INTO ALIGNMENT WITH BOTH COCONINO AND YAVAPAI COUNTY'S EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLANS.

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DEVELOP A VERSION THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE RESTRICTED.

AND WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC FACING VERSION AVAILABLE TO BE VIEWED BY THE PUBLIC ON THE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE EVACUATION REENTRY PLAN CURRENTLY DOES HAVE A PUBLIC FACING VERSION THAT IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

AND YOU CAN VIEW THAT BY GOING TO SEDONA AZ.GOV/READY.

AND YOU CAN FIND YOUR EVACUATION ZONE AS WELL.

OUR ONLINE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS CAMPAIGN, RED ROCK READY, HAS HAD MONTHLY EDITIONS SINCE DECEMBER, COVERING TOPICS LIKE FLOODING, SAFETY, FIRE RESTRICTIONS, EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS, AND THAT WHOLE SERIES OF VIDEOS IN TOTAL HAS GOTTEN OVER 40,000 VIEWS ACROSS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE DOING SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH SOON TO LOCAL CLUBS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO ENHANCE THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, INCLUDING LIONS AND ROTARY CRABS.

AND IN ADDITION, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT LAST NIGHT AT THE FIRE SAFE SEDONA MEETING, WE ARE PART OF A COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN THAT WE'LL BE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING HERE AT THE HUB ON JULY 8TH.

SO WE DID GET TO SEE A LOT OF THIS TRAINING THAT WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING WITH PD STAFF AND DEPARTMENT HEADS, AS WELL AS THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER REALLY COME TO LIFE.

DURING THE POCKET FIRE.

DURING OUR MOST RECENT INCIDENT, THOSE FIRST 72 HOURS THAT WE HAD OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER ACTIVATED WERE CRITICAL.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF HOW THAT WENT FOR US.

SO ON FRIDAY AT ABOUT 5:12 PM I GOT A PANO TEXT ALERT.

PANO IS AI POWERED WILDFIRE DETECTION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND IT GIVES YOU KIND OF A ROUGH ESTIMATION OF WHERE THAT FIRE IS LOCATED ON THE LANDSCAPE THROUGH MY RELATIONSHIP WITH SEDONA FIRE.

AND THEN ALSO AS BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN.

THIS WAS AN AREA OF KNOWN CONCERN FOR US.

THIS HAD THE POTENTIAL TO GROW RAPIDLY AND BE AN ISSUE ON THE COMMUNITY.

SO I SENT A TE TEXT TO CHIEF ABOUT THE FIRE CHIEF FOLEY AT ABOUT 5 21, SO NOT EVEN 10 MINUTES LATER.

AND BY THAT POINT, WHAT WAS ONCE A SMALL PLUME OF SMOKE HAD IT ERUPTED INTO A LARGE CLOUD ON THE LANDSCAPE.

AND WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO ACT QUICKLY AND ACT IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE CONTACTED COCONINO COUNTY, CONTACTED SEDONA FIRE, SAW WHAT THEIR NEXT STEPS AND ACTIONS WERE GOING TO BE.

WE MADE THE DECISION IN LESS THAN AN HOUR TO ACTIVATE OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

FROM THAT FIRST PLUME OF SMOKE, STARTED GETTING FOLKS IN TO TAKE ON CERTAIN POSITIONS AND ROLES TO OVERSEE THESE OPERATIONS.

AND ALEX SCHEUERMAN FROM THE FOREST SERVICE TALKED YESTERDAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EVACUATION SUCCESSES THAT WE HAD.

EVACUATIONS ARE NORMALLY VERY CHAOTIC, VERY CONFUSING, AND I THINK PART OF THOSE SUCCESSES IN EVACUATIONS CAN BE DIRECTLY POINTED AT US SETTING UP AN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER AND THE LACK OF HESITATION DOING SO.

WE COMMUNICATED IMMEDIATELY WITH CCSO, WITH OUR PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WENT SMOOTHLY AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHEN THEY EVACUATED OAK CREEK CANYON, WHEN MADE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MADE THAT EVACUATION DECISION, WE KNEW IMMEDIATELY WITHIN, I WOULD SAY WITHIN MINUTES, AND WE WOULD ACT AND GET OFFICERS AND PLACE A COORDINATOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS COULD EVACUATE THE CANYON AND INTO SEDONA INSIDE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

WE QUICKLY ESTABLISH OUR INCIDENT COMMAND, OUR PLANNING SECTION, OUR LOGISTICS SECTION, OUR OPERATIONS SECTION, AND THESE ARE ALL ICS PRINCIPLES AND NIMS PRINCIPLES THAT WE'LL TOUCH ON IN THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL.

BUT DUE TO THE TRAINING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DONE WITH SEDONA PD STAFF ON ICS, THEY WERE ABLE TO STEP INTO THOSE ROLES EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, UH, DURING THE INCIDENT.

AND JUST ASSUME THOSE FUNCTIONS KIND OF FLIPPED THE SWITCH FROM BEING OUT ON PATROL TO WORKING INSIDE AN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER FOR SOME FOLKS.

WE ALSO INTEGRATED DIRECTLY WITH BOTH THE TYPE THREE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT IS NOW MANAGING THE FIRE.

AND I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT TO SPEAK TO OUR RELATIONSHIPS.

THEY WERE TOUCHED HEAVILY ON YESTERDAY, BUT I'M GONNA TOUCH ON 'EM AGAIN TODAY.

THERE WASN'T AN INDIVIDUAL DURING THE FIRE AND EVACUATION OPERATIONS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER FOR OR COULD NOT GET AHOLD OF.

AND THAT WORKS BOTH WAYS AS WELL.

I HAD FOLKS FROM COCONINO COUNTY, FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FROM THE TYPE THREE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM CALLING ME, WITHOUT ME EVEN HAVING TO PROMPT THEM AND ASKING WHAT WE NEEDED AND IF WE WERE OKAY IN SEDONA.

THE CO COOPERATION ACROSS THIS REGION REALLY IS UNMATCHED.

AND THEY SAID THAT YESTERDAY, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE EVERYWHERE.

WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO DIFFERENT STATES, GO TO DIFFERENT PARTS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND WORK ON CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

AND IT'S NOT A GIVEN THAT RESPONDING AGENCIES ARE GOING TO WORK WELL TOGETHER.

BUT THEY DO HEAR, I DO WANNA GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO AARON SIFFORD AS WELL.

THAT'S THE CITY'S GIS MANAGER.

HE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE TYPE THREE TEAM AS ONE OF THEIR GIS ANALYSTS.

AND HE HELPED US GET A LOT OF CRITICAL INFORMATION DURING THAT INITIAL PERIOD.

SO THE TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS WE MADE TO THE EOC, THE CELL BOOSTING, THE ADDITIONAL MONITORS, THE INCIDENT ACTION PLANNING, THOSE WERE ALL CRITICAL ADDITIONS THAT ALLOWED US TO SEAMLESSLY STAND UP OUR EMERGENCY

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OPERATIONS CENTER FOR AN INCIDENT THAT REALLY HAD THE POTENTIAL TO AFFECT SEDONA A LOT MORE THAN IT INITIALLY DID.

BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE.

AND THE REASON I BRING THAT ALL UP ISN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, TO HIGHLIGHT OUR EFFORTS OR TO TUTOR OUR OWN HORNS, BUT TO EMPHASIZE THAT TRAINING LIKE WE'RE DOING TODAY, REALLY IS THE FUNDAMENTAL CORNERSTONE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND WITHOUT THE TRAINING, REALLY ALL EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, ALL THE EQUIPMENT, ALL THE RESOURCES, ALL THE PERSONNEL WITHOUT TRAINING, IT'S ALL KIND OF HALF BAKED.

IT'S NOT ALL THE WAY THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS TRAINING TO YOU TODAY, LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH PD STAFF, WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS FOR YOU AND INCORPORATE YOU INTO EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.

'CAUSE YOU REALLY DO HAVE A CRITICAL ROLE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

CHANCE.

COULD I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS? ABSOLUTELY.

IS THE EOC STILL UP AND OPERATING? SO IT'S IN THE STANDBY STATUS RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL OUR EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING IN THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS ACTIVELY OPERATING.

AND THEN THOSE 40,000 HITS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM .

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT THE GEO GEOGRAPHICAL AREA WAS, OR 40,000 IS MORE THAN THE RESIDENTS IN THIS CITY? IT IS.

I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF VIEWERSHIP ACROSS, UM, ARIZONA, EVEN OUTSIDE OF SEDONA.

BUT AS FAR AS, UH, A BREAKDOWN BY STATE OR REGION, I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT I COULD LOOK THAT 40,000 NUMBER WAS ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS. SO FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, YOUTUBE.

OH, SO IT COULD BE REPEAT, IT COULD BE REPEATS AS WELL.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS? UM, YOU, ME, SORRY.

YOU MENTIONED THAT SEVEN STAFFERS ARE BEING IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING CERTIFIED.

WHAT, UM, POSITIONS DO THEY OCCUPY? WHAT DEPARTMENTS ARE THEY IN? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO CURRENTLY, UM, SIX OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF, AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, AARON SEAFORD, THE GIS ANALYST WHO'S GETTING HIS ALL HAZARDS GI GIS ANALYST TASK BOOK.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON OUR OWN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.

SO THIS IS THE FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, AS THE NAME SUGGESTS.

UM, AND IT RELIES HEAVILY ON THESE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM PRINCIPLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER TODAY.

OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLANS ARE ALSO VERY ROOTED IN NIMS AND ICS AND THESE DOCUMENTS ARE REALLY DESIGNED TO WORK TOGETHER DURING A DISASTER INSIDE OF AN EMERGENCY.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE MAKING REVISIONS THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN CURRENTLY, JUST TO BE EVEN MORE ALIGNED WITH WHAT OUR COUNTY PARTNERS ARE DOING.

WE ALSO HAVE THE EVACUATION AND REENTRY PLAN, WHICH ALIGNS WITH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, OUR EOP AND UTILIZES NIMS AND ICSI APOLOGIZE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ACRONYMS THROUGHOUT THIS, BUT I'LL BE SURE TO EXPLAIN ALL OF THEM.

THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM TO HELP US MANAGE EVACUATIONS BETTER.

SO THESE PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS NIMS AND ICS, ALERT AND WARNING, TRAFFIC CONTROL, TRANSPORTATION.

ALL OF THESE THI ARE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER AND THEY HELP US KNOW OUR ROUTE AND OWN OUR PLAN, BOTH AS THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT ALSO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS A CITY, UM, WORKING ALONGSIDE FIRE SAFE, SEDONA, OTHER PROGRAMS TO MANAGE EVACUATIONS BETTER.

MAY.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

SO THE EVACUATION REENTRY PLANT IS CURRENTLY ON OUR WEBSITE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

AND HOW EASY IS IT FOR SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY FIND IT? SO IF YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PAGE OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE, THEY ARE ON THERE, THEY'RE CLICKABLE LINKS.

UM, AND THERE'S A IMAGE OF THE COVER.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO MAYBE PUT THIS ON THE HOMEPAGE BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S A, RIGHT NOW, VERY RELEVANT, AND B, THIS IS A TOPIC OF CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO KNOW TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PAGE IN ORDER TO GO FIND THIS.

AND THEY MAY NOT KNOW WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PAGE.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO SURFACE THIS HIGHER, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL FEELS.

I THINK IT'D BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

I'LL LEAVE IT IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS.

NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT COMMUNICATION, BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.

WE'LL TALK TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.

GREAT.

SO EVERY EVACUATION IS APPROACHED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

AND TIM AND ASHLEY, WE HAVE DEALT WITH MANY THROUGHOUT THEIR JURISDICTIONS.

AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO WITH OUR EVACUATION PLAN IS ACTUALLY ENSURE THAT WE HAVE TRAINED RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL ABLE TO EXECUTE IT, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WITHOUT THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BEST PLAN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL AND THE TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IT'S, AGAIN, SOMEWHAT HALF BAKED.

SO THIS PLAN DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, DO X AND THEN DO ITEM ONE AND THEN DO ITEM TWO ALONGSIDE.

Y IT WOULD BE TOO RIGID.

IT WOULD, IT WOULDN'T WORK, IT WOULDN'T BE ADAPTABLE FOR AN ACTUAL

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CRISIS.

P EISENHOWER SAID THAT PLANS ARE WORTHLESS, BUT PLANNING AND IS EVERYTHING THAT'S HYPERBOLE.

THIS PLAN ISN'T WORTHLESS.

BUT THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT THE EVACUATION REENTRY PLAN GAVE US, UM, AS A DYNAMIC DOCUMENT IN THESE CONSIDERATIONS, ALLOW US TO MAKE THOSE ADAPTABLE EVACUATION CALLS AND DECISIONS WHEN WE NEED TO.

AND IT GIVES US A FRAMEWORK TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE WITHIN.

SO THIS REALLY HAS A LOT MORE UTILITY, UM, THAN A RIGID DOCUMENT.

WHEN I WORKED WITH COCONINO COUNTY AND ALONGSIDE TIM, WE UPDATED THE COUNTY'S EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.

THAT PLAN WAS PREVIOUSLY 800 PAGES LONG, AND IT JUST WAS NOT USABLE DURING A DISASTER.

SO PLANS LIKE THIS, THE EVACUATION RE-ENTRY PLAN, LIKE OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, THESE DOCUMENTS ALLOW US THE FRAMEWORK AND THE ADAPTABILITY TO MAKE REAL-TIME EMERGENCY DECISIONS WHEN WE NEED TO.

THEY ALSO GAVE US OUR EVACUATION ZONES, GAVE US 12 ORIGINAL EVACUATION ZONES WITH THE 13TH ADDED AFTER THE RECENT ANNEXATION AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THIS 'CAUSE WHEN WE CONDUCT EVACUATIONS, THEY'RE GONNA BE MANAGED UNDER THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM STRUCTURE.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS TRAINING TO YOU TODAY.

COMMUNICATIONS IS A CRUCIAL COMPONENT OF THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

THESE ARE OUR THREE PRIMARY METHODS FOR EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION.

NIXLE IS OUR SUBSCRIBER BASED SYSTEM, LARGELY TARGETED AT RESIDENCE, AND IT REQUIRES YOU TO OPT INTO ALERTS BY TEXTING RED ROCKS TO 8 8 8 7 7 7.

SO TRIPLE EIGHT, TRIPLE SEVEN, AND WE HAVE OVER 5,000 NUMBERS CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN OUR NIXLE SYSTEM, WHICH PROPORTIONAL TO THE CITY'S POPULATION IS ACTUALLY QUITE HIGH OF A SUBSCRIPTION BASED ENROLLMENT RATE.

THERE'S ALSO IPAS, WHICH IS MANAGED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE TIM ASHLEY A A MOMENT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IPAS.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IPOS IS A, IS A FANTASTIC TOOL TOOL, THE INTEGRATED PUBLIC ALERT AND WARNING SYSTEM.

AND THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR OPT-IN SYSTEMS WHERE YOU GUYS USE NIXLE, UM, YOU KNOW, COCONINO AND YAVAPAI USE RAVE AND IPA, IS THAT IT? IT'S BASED ON THE LOCATION WHERE YOU ARE.

SO IF WE'RE ALL HERE AND THERE'S AN INCIDENT THAT TAKES PLACE, WE CAN DRAW A POLYGON OR PICK THE EVACUATION ZONE FOR HERE.

AND EVERYONE WITH A PHONE WITHIN THIS AREA WILL GET THAT ALERT.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL GOT THE TURQUOISE ALERT THAT DPS SENT OUT.

YEP.

SAME CONCEPT.

IT'S GONNA MAKE YOUR PHONE HAVE A LITTLE SEIZURE AND IT GOES TO EVERYONE WITHIN THAT AREA.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE NOT WITHIN THAT AREA, BUT MAYBE YOU LIVE THERE, THAT'S WHERE THAT OPT-IN SYSTEM IS REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL.

BUT IPAS IS NOT JUST OUR ACCESS TO THE WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERTS AND SETTING THOSE TELEPHONIC ALERTS, IT'S ALSO HOW WE CAN SEND AND ACTIVATE THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR OLD SCHOOL LIKE CIVIL DEFENSE SYSTEM WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BONKING ON OUR, OUR RADIOS AND OUR TELEVISION STATION AND THAT HAS A LITTLE STREAMER, IT'S STILL THERE, STILL WORKS, STILL OPERATIONAL.

AND WE CAN SEND ALERTS THROUGH THAT.

UM, ALSO WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND NON WEATHER EMERGENCY MESSAGES.

SO UTILIZING THEIR TECHNOLOGY AND, UH, THEIR RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO SEND MESSAGES AND AMPLIFY, UM, WHAT WE NEED TO GET OUT TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

SO MULTIPLE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX, UH, FOR US TO REACH FOLKS.

IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT ON TOP OF US? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CELL TOWERS ARE PLACED.

COULD I, COULD, COULD I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH.

SO, UM, YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME IN THE CLOUD, IT'S IN THE CLOUD OR SOMETHING, BUT, UH, WHAT ARE THESE VULNERABLE TO? SO IF A FIRE SWEPT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AND THE CELL TOWERS ARE BURNED UP AND THE EARLY WARNING SYSTEM THAT YOU JUST INSTALLED BURNED UP, HOW DO WILL THESE STILL WORK? SO THIS IS WHERE WE, WE STRONGLY EMPHASIZE FOLKS HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO RECEIVE ALERTS.

SO JUST LIKE WE HAVE MULTIPLE TOOLS, WE ASK PEOPLE TO HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS.

AND WE DID SEE THAT IN CALIFORNIA, UH, WHERE SOME OF THE, THE CELL TOWERS, UM, HAD IMPACTS.

AND SO ALERTS WERE DELAYED IN GETTING OUT.

UM, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE METHODS, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SENDING THINGS OUT VIA THE, UM, THE RADIO STATIONS AND OUR TELEVISION PARTNERS.

WE'RE ALSO SENDING IT OUT ON THE, THE WEATHER RADIOS IF IT MEETS THAT, THAT MAGNITUDE.

SO IT'S ALSO ABOUT ENCOURAGING OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THOSE MULTIPLE METHODS TO GET ALERTS.

AND I KNOW FROM THE YAP BY COUNTY SIDE, AS I'M SURE THE COCONINO SIDE AS WELL, IT'S DOOR TO DOOR NOTIFICATIONS AS WELL.

UM, WE'VE SEEN IN MANY INCIDENTS IN Y BY COUNTY WHERE THE, THE SEARCH AND RESCUE AND THE FOLKS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY, THEY SEND THE ENTIRE GANG OF VOLUNTEERS AND THERE'S OVER 200, UH, TO DO DOOR TO DOOR NOTIFICATIONS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'RE CONNECTING WITH COMMUNITY, UH, MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP SPREAD AND AMPLIFY THAT MESSAGE.

AND, UH, I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THE REDUNDANCY OF THE, THE SIRENS, BUT THAT, THAT IS A PRETTY POWERFUL TOOL AS WELL.

CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP? MM-HMM .

ARE OUR CELL TOWERS AND LOCATIONS THAT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO A FIRE? OR ARE THEY IN PLACES THAT BY THE TIME THE FIRE REACHES A CELL TOWER, WE'RE ALL GONNA KNOW? 'CAUSE

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SO I WOULD SAY, UH, YES TO BOTH.

THEY ARE IN SOME AREAS THAT COULD BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO WILDFIRE.

BUT THEN CONVERSELY, IF THOSE CELL TOWERS ARE BEING IMPACTED BY WILDFIRE, IT'S PROBABLY BECOME VERY APPARENT TO FOLKS THAT THERE'S A WILDFIRE AFFECTING THE AREA, WHETHER THROUGH SMOKE IN THE AIR OR THROUGH ONE OF THESE OTHER NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE.

I WILL SAY OUR OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS, UM, THOSE ARE VERY REDUNDANT.

THEY'RE METAL CONSTRUCTION LOCATED ON BRICK WALLS, UH, CONCRETE WALLS IN AREAS THAT ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE LESS PRONE TO THE WILDFIRE RISK, UM, THAN MAYBE A CELL TOWER THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE WAYS IN THE FOREST.

SO KIND OF TO ROUND OUT OUR MESSAGING TRIFECTA, LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIREN SYSTEM, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO PROJECT ACTUAL AUDIBLE SPOKEN MESSAGING AND REDUNDANT COMMUNICATIONS TO KIND OF COMPLIMENT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR SUBSCRIPTION BASED SYSTEM.

AND THEN ALSO WITH IPOS, THE INTEGRATED PUBLIC ALERT AND WARNING SYSTEM.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY TARGETED IPASS AT FOLKS WHO MAY BE VISITORS WHO HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.

IF THEY'RE CONNECTED TO A CELL TOWER, IF THEY HAVE A DEVICE THAT IS, THEY'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE MESSAGE AND YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY GO AND OPT OUT OF THAT FROM THE FACTORY, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY OPT IN.

YOU HAVE TO OPT OUT OF THAT TO NOT RECEIVE A MESSAGE.

SO MOST FOLKS ARE GONNA RECEIVE A MESSAGE FROM ONE OF THESE THREE SYSTEMS, AND LIKE ASHLEY SAID, DIRECTOR ALQUIST, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING FOLKS GOING AROUND WITH LOUDSPEAKERS ON PA SYSTEMS, MAKING SURE THERE'S JUST EVEN MORE REDUNDANCY IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS FOR EVACUATIONS.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL BE POPCORNING OUR WAY THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME TALK FOR THE, THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS ALONE.

AND I'D LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARTER TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

IT'S GOOD THIS, YOU SAID IT'S OKAY IF I GET UP AND ROAM AROUND.

GO FOR IT.

AWESOME.

I DON'T LIKE TO SIT STILL ANYMORE THAN I HAVE TO A CLICKER OR ARE YOU JUST DOING IT OVER THERE? DO YOU WANT A MOUSE? SURE.

I, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GET STARTED, UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WILL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH THE EARLY MESSAGING, UH, AND CONSTANTLY MADE A GOOD POINT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD KNOW, FINGERS CROSSED WELL BEFORE WE START LOSING A LOT OF OUR COMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SOMETHING BAD IS COMING.

UH, THERE'S, UH, REDUNDANCY IN THAT.

SO WHERE ONE CELL TOWER GOES DOWN, ANOTHER ONE MAY BE ABLE TO PICK UP SOME OF THAT LOAD.

UM, BUT I THINK ALSO IT'S WHERE RELATIONSHIPS COME INTO PLACE, YOU KNOW, SO WHILE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH IT, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DISTRICT IS WORKING WITH THE CITY, THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US WORK WELL, UH, ALMOST ON A WEEKLY BASIS NOWADAYS ON, ON AN HOURLY BASIS THIS WEEK.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, SAY YOU CALL CHANCE, HEY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SEEING THIS? OR DO YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THIS? AND KIND OF SHARE THAT SO WE CAN GET THAT MESSAGING OUT AS, UH, AS QUICKLY TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE.

SO IT, IT DOES KIND OF, IT TECHNOLOGY DOES HAVE ITS LIMITATIONS, WE KNOW THAT, BUT IT DOES KIND OF MINIMIZE, UH, SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS THAT WE MAY SEE.

SO, UM, AND ALSO SPEAKING OF THE SIRENS, UH, THANK YOU GUYS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED.

THIS IS THE LA THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN DOWN TO TO SEE COUNCIL SINCE, UH, THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETED.

I KNOW WE, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE WERE, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHEN ARE THEY COMING, WHEN ARE THEY COMING? LIKE, WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE HURRYING.

SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE EXCITED THOSE ARE UP.

AND, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR, FOR LETTING THE COUNTY PARTNER WITH YOU GUYS TO GET THOSE UP.

I ACTUALLY DROVE BY AND SAW 'EM, AND, UM, HADN'T SEEN THE FINAL COLOR OF 'EM UNTIL THEN, BUT THEY LOOK REALLY GOOD.

THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.

SO, SO, UM, AS CHANCE MENTIONED, IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, I KINDA WANT THIS TO BE, UM, INFORMAL DIALOGUE.

UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REALLY SIT DOWN AND, AND, AND TALK THROUGH WHAT, UM, WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO DURING A DISASTER.

WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE OPERATIONAL LEVEL, THE FIELD P FOLKS, WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU GUYS AND, AND VICE VERSA.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR ROLE IS.

SO TO KIND OF START WITH THAT, WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, KIND OF WHAT IT IS AND WHY IT'S IN PLACE.

UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S A, UH, CONSISTENT NATIONWIDE TEMPLATE.

SO IT IS, UH, IT'S USED ACROSS THE NATION BY FEDERAL, STATE, TRIBAL, LOCAL COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL JURISDICTIONS AT ALL LEVELS ACROSS THE NATION USE THE SAME UNIFIED LANGUAGE.

UM, WHY, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PROTECT PROPERTY, SAVE LIVES, UH, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT MORE EFFECTIVE AND, UH, EFFICIENT RESPONSE.

UM, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS IT'S COMPLETELY SCALABLE.

UH, AND WE USE THIS ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND, UM,

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I AM PRIOR CAREER LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND, AND AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BEATS LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL DAY LONG, .

SO NO AHEAD .

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SIZE INCIDENTS, THE COMPLEXITY, THE COST, THE LOCATION, ALL OF THIS FRAMEWORK IS, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT, THIS CAN BE APPLIED REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE HAZARD IS.

LAW ENFORCEMENT USES THIS, THEY JUST DON'T CALL IT THIS AS MUCH.

WE'RE GETTING THERE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

UM, BUT IT'S A COMMON UNIFIED LANGUAGE THAT, THAT LETS EVERYBODY KIND OF, UH, OPERATE FROM THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.

UH, AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT IS TO PROTECT LIVES, PROTECT PROPERTY, REDUCE THE IMPACTS OF A DISASTER WHEN THEY HAPPEN.

IF YOU NEED SOME, UH, GOOD INFORMATION TO READ, IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE SLEEPING, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND HOMELAND SECURITY POLICY DIRECTIVE FIVE AND PRESIDENTIAL POLICY DIRECTIVE EIGHT.

UM, THESE ARE THE TWO OVERARCHING DOCUMENTS FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

THAT SAID, WE WANT YOU TO ESTABLISH THESE TWO DOCUMENTS THERE, THE NATIONAL RESPONSE FRAMEWORK AND THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

UM, SO THESE CAME ABOUT, UM, ACTUALLY HOW LONG? 25 YEARS, WHENEVER IT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

OH, WAS IT 2001 IS WHEN SOME OF 'EM STARTED.

OH, LOOK AT THERE, .

SO I, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, BUT REALLY AFTER NINE 11, WE REALLY STARTED TO SEE A LOT OF, UM, CONCERTED EFFORT TO, TO INCREASE, TO BOLSTER, TO UPDATE, TO ENHANCE, UM, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR THAT ENHANCED COORDINATION.

SO, UM, IT WAS PASSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND THEN SLOWLY STARTED MAKING ITS WAY DOWN TO THE LOCAL LEVELS.

SO YOU'LL SEE HERE, UM, THE STATE, UH, EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS IN TWO, 2005.

UM, JAVA PIKE COUNTY'S RESOLUTION WAS, UM, I BELIEVE IN 2005, ALSO AS WAS COCONINO COUNTY.

AND THEN SEDONAS WAS IN 2005.

SO IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

UM, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE SEEN IT, THEY FORGET ABOUT IT.

JUST, WE JUST GO ABOUT BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS TODAY TO REALLY KIND OF DUSTED OFF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN, UM, DISASTER INCIDENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING AROUND THE, THE REGION, UH, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN COMPLEXITY AND SEVERITY, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

SO, UM, IT'S GOOD TO COME BACK AND REVISIT.

AND TIM, I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT TOO.

WHEN I FIRST GOT TO THE CITY, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO WAS HAVE THE CITY ADOPT NIMS AND ICS.

SO I TALKED TO KURT AND I WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO FIND, YEAH, YOU GUYS ACTUALLY ALREADY DID IT 20 YEARS AGO.

SO WE DIG IT UP AND THAT'S, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.

'CAUSE A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS, EVEN STILL TODAY, HAVEN'T ADOPTED NIMS AND ICS EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES IT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR GRANTS AND NOT ONLY IS A GRANT REQUIREMENT, IT'S JUST BEST PRACTICE FOR MANAGING DISASTERS AND EMERGENCY.

SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT SEDONA WAS ALREADY KIND OF AHEAD OF A CURVE, UM, GETTING WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BECOMING RELEVANT AND WE'RE JUST REINSTITUTING IT AND WORKING ON IT AND MAKING IT APPLICABLE TO COUNCIL TOO AS WELL TODAY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE RE-ENERGIZING OUR NIMS AND ICS ACROSS THE BOARD HERE AT THE CITY.

UM, AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ADD, SO AS TIM HAD MENTIONED AND ALLUDED TO, A LOT OF THIS STEMS FROM NINE 11, THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEROPERABILITY CHALLENGES, COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES, AND THAT'S WHERE HOMELAND, UM, DIRECTIVE FIVE CAME FROM.

IT WAS TO, TO ESTABLISH THE NATIONAL RESPONSE FRAMEWORK.

AND THEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER, WE HAVE HURRICANE KATRINA, AND THEY GO, OH, WE STILL HAVE NATURAL DISASTERS.

SO WE'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL INCIDENTS OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE SPAN OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT HAS LED TO THE, THE FORMATION OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIVES OR POLICIES AND SUCH THAT KIND OF DIRECT WHAT WE DO.

AND, BUT ALL OF THIS COMES BACK TO HOW NIMS ALLOWS US TO, TO TALK, BE ABLE TO SOLVE SOME OF OUR INTEROPERABILITY ISSUES.

SO REGARDLESS OF THE INCIDENT, UM, IT JUST, I FEEL REITERATES THE VALUE AND IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THESE, THESE FRAMEWORKS IN PLACE.

SO ONE OF THE BIG KEY MESSAGES THAT, UH, YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE RESPONSE FRAMEWORK IS THE EMPHASIS ON PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW INFORMATION FLOWS, UH, DURING A DISASTER.

SO ONE OF THE COMMON THINGS THAT, THAT WE HEAR IN OUR LANGUAGE ALL THE TIME IS A DISASTER WILL ALWAYS START AND END LOCALLY.

OKAY, LET'S TAKE, UM, UH, IF THERE WAS A FLOODING EVENT HERE IN SEDONA, UM, WHO'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO RESPOND? IT'S GONNA BE THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S GONNA BE THE LOCAL FIRE DISTRICT, THE LOCAL PUBLIC WORKS.

THE WAY THIS IS SET UP IS, SHOULD THOSE LOCAL RESOURCES BECOME OVERWHELMED, WHETHER THEY NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, ADDITIONAL STAFFING EQUIPMENT, PEOPLE, PLACES, THINGS THEY WOULD THEN REACH OUT TO, UH, TYPICALLY THE NEXT LEVEL

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OF GOVERNMENT.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THE CITY REALLY BENEFITS FROM HERE ARE THE RELATIONSHIPS.

AND, AND I WILL BRAG A LITTLE BIT OF THE THREE OF US, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANCE MENTIONED HE STARTED WORKED FOR, FOR US IN KINO COUNTY UNTIL YOU STOLE THEM.

UH, NOT BITTER, UH, , BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, SO WE'VE WORKED WELL TOGETHER.

I KNOW CHANCE, I'VE KNOWN ASHLEY, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER FOR, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, UH, TEXTING ALMOST A DAILY BASIS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT OUR RELATIONSHIPS ARE, ARE THERE, HE WILL PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ONE OF US AND SAYS, HEY, THIS HAS HAPPENED.

WE NEED SOME HELP.

CAN YOU SEND SOME HELP? SO SURE, I CAN REACH OUT TO MY SHERIFF AND SEND DEPUTIES DOWN, OR PUBLIC WORKS CREWS TO HELP, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.

NOW, IF, IF WE CAN'T SUPPORT BECAUSE WE'RE OVERWHELMED FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN WE GO TO THE STATE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT, THE STATE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME.

WHERE THEY WOULD GO UP TO, UM, THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

THEY CAN REACH OUT THROUGH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE COMPACT, WHICH ALL STATES ARE MEMBERS OF.

SO THEY CAN REACH OUT TO OTHER STATES FOR RESOURCES, OR THEY CAN GO UP TO, UH, THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL HELP DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE INCIDENT.

AS THAT INCIDENT STARTS TO WIND DOWN, WE START TO SEE THAT FEDERAL SUPPORT AND THOSE OUT-OF-STATE RESOURCES WILL, UH, KIND OF GO BACK HOME AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY RESOURCES WILL STICK AROUND AND HELP.

BUT THEN, UM, AFTER THAT WE'LL START, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE COUNTY'S DONE, WE'LL JUST RETURN EVERYTHING BACK TO THE LOCAL.

SO EVERYTHING REALLY STARTS AND ENDS HERE.

IT IS STILL YOUR JURISDICTION.

YOU ARE STILL THE GOVERNING BODY FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA.

SHOULD AN INCIDENT OCCUR, THE STATE'S NOT GONNA COME IN AND GO, WELL, MAYOR, THANKS, WE'VE GOT IT FROM HERE.

YOU'RE STILL IN CHARGE WITH COUNCIL TO MAKE THOSE POLICY DECISIONS WITH THE SUPPORT OF OTHER PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THING TO REMEMBER THAT IT, IT WILL STILL BE YOUR INCIDENT.

SO WHAT IS AN INCIDENT? SO WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE INTERCHANGE, YOU'LL HEAR THEM USED INTERCHANGEABLY, BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT AN INCIDENT IS, UH, THAT UNPLANNED EVENT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR FIRES, FLOODS, NATURAL DISASTERS, THOSE THINGS THAT AREN'T PLANNED, UM, THAT WOULD REQUIRE EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

BUT THERE'S ALSO INCIDENTS OR, UM, EVENTS, EXCUSE ME.

SO, UM, PARADES, FESTIVALS, CONCERTS, THINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO COME IN, UM, THAT ALLOW US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO PLAN, BUT ARE STILL GOING TO ACQUIRE RESOURCES, UH, FOR THAT.

SO I WON'T GO TOO MUCH INTO SOME OF THIS, BUT I, I'LL SHOW YOU THE, UM, THE MAIN PART OF THE NIMS COMPONENTS.

THERE'S THREE, THERE'S THAT RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, AGAIN, THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND THINGS, AND THE COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION MANAGEMENT, WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THAT COMMAND AND COORDINATION PIECE, AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S BROKEN UP INTO, UM, TO FOUR AREAS AND REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW ALL OF THOSE WILL, UM, REALLY COME TOGETHER AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER.

THEY ALL HAVE EACH THEIR OWN SPECIFIC ROLES AND HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER AND COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.

WE REALLY CAN'T DO, UH, OR BE SUCCESSFUL UNDER INCIDENT COMMAND WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE OTHERS.

AND THAT APPLIES TO ALL FOUR OF THOSE.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DEFINITIONS WE'LL SHOW YOU.

SO COMMAND, WHEN YOU HEAR THAT TERM, THAT'S, UH, AS FEMA SAYS, THE ACT OF ACTUALLY DIRECTING, ORDERING, OR CONTROLLING BY VIRTUE OF EXPLICIT STATUTORY REGULATORY OR DELEGATED AUTHORITY.

SO THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALREADY GIVEN TO THE FIRE DISTRICTS, TO THE FIRE CHIEF TO WHO MAY DELEGATE THAT OUT FOR THE DAILY INCIDENTS.

THE CHIEF DOESN'T GO OUT ON EVERY CALL OR EVERY RUN THE FIRE DISTRICT MAKES, THAT'S BEEN DELEGATED OUT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT CAPTAIN, THAT BATTALION CHIEF THROUGH THOSE AUTHORITIES, THE CITY, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS.

UH, AND AS WE COME UP, AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE MONIQUE HERE FROM THE ATTORNEY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE, UM, O OFTEN WE, I I SAY WE AS COMMUNITIES TEND TO OVERLOOK OR, UH, NOT PAY AS CLOSE OF ATTENTION TO THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF DISASTERS WHEN THEY'RE HAPPENING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE, LET'S JUST GET EVERYTHING WITH RED AND BLUE LIGHTS OVER THERE.

GET ALL THE RESOURCES YOU NEED.

YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FLOODING EVENT.

OKAY, SOMEBODY GO BUY HALF A MILLION SANDBAGS.

WELL, WE HAVE PROCUREMENT POLICIES THAT WE STILL NEED TO FOLLOW.

WE HAVE CERTAIN STATUTORY, UH, GUIDELINES THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE LEGAL IS INVOLVED TO SAY, HEY, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT, SO THERE'S A WAY TO GET THOSE IN THE SAME TIMELY MANNER.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT, UH, ACCORDING TO, TO POLICY AND STATUTE.

I'LL GIVE A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW TOO, ON DELEGATED AUTHORITY OF THE POCKET FIRE THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON.

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COOK INTERNATIONAL FOREST IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THAT INCIDENT.

BUT WHEN AN INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM COMES IN, LIKE IS HERE CURRENTLY, THOSE ARE MADE UP OF PERSONNEL FROM ACROSS DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, FROM ACROSS DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

THEY ARE DELEGATED THE AUTHORITY TO MANAGE THE INCIDENT FROM THE, FROM THE, THE LANDOWNER, THE PRIMARY AGENCY, AND THAT'S THE COOK INTERNATIONAL FOREST.

SO IF A TEAM RIGHT NOW IS ACTUALLY EXERCISING DELEGATED AUTHORITY, AB AND, AND THAT DELEGATION WOULD COME FROM YOU AS COUNSEL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BROUGHT IN AN INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM OR SOME SPECIALIZED STAFFING TO TAKE OVER, UH, YOU WOULD NOT BE GIVING UP YOUR CONTROL OVER THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUALS.

SO THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST IS STILL THE AGENCY THAT OVERSEES EVERYTHING ON THEIR LANDS.

THEY'VE JUST BROUGHT IN THIS TEAM TO WORK ON THEIR BEHALF THROUGH THAT.

AND THERE'S REPORTING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CURBS IF YOU WILL, UH, FOR THAT PATH FORWARD.

SO, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL, UH, COULD DO SHOULD THERE BE AN INCIDENT LARGE ENOUGH TO REQUIRE THAT.

SO WHO HAS THE EXPLICIT AUTHORITY FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF ALL INCIDENT OPERATIONS? POP QUIZ, POP QUIZ CHIEF, YOU CAN'T ANSWER FOLEY.

, CHIEF FOLEY , THAT'S GONNA BE THE INCIDENT COMMANDER, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEIR ROLE SHORTLY.

MANAGEMENT IS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

IT'S MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION IS, UH, IT'S JUST THAT, IT'S A PROCESS ACROSS ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND DISCIPLINES WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SIT DOWN AND, AND MULTIPLE AGENCIES, MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS HAVE A FORMAL GUIDELINES, FORMAL PLAN, FORMAL RULE BOOK, IF YOU WILL, OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.

SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM AND JUST KIND OF HOW THAT IS BROKEN DOWN.

AGAIN, WE MENTIONED THAT'S THAT STANDARD APPROACH FOR ON SCENE COMMAND CONTROL AND COORDINATION.

IT'S A COMMON STRUCTURE.

UH, I WILL SAY, I CALL IT A FRAMEWORK.

UH, IT IS NOT HARD, FAST WRITTEN IN CONCRETE CANNOT BE CHANGED.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM, WORK THE FINER NUANCES OF THE FRAMEWORK TO BEST SUIT, UH, YOUR JURISDICTION.

AND A LOT OF PLACES WILL DO THAT.

UM, BUT IT, IT'S KIND OF THAT COMMON FRAMEWORK WHERE, AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THIS MEANS, WHERE AN OPERATION SECTION CHIEF IN ARIZONA HAS A VERY SIMILAR ROLE TO AN OPERATION SECTION CHIEF IN NEW YORK CITY AND VICE VERSA, IT IS ALL HAZARDS.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A FIRE, FLOOD, HAZMAT, UH, WINTER STORM, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE.

UM, AND IT ALSO INTEGRATES THAT ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

UM, IT IS SCALABLE TO MATCH THE COMPLEXITY AND SIZE OF AN INCIDENT.

SO THERE YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, I WON'T READ ALL OF THEM TO YOU, BUT I THINK THE, THE, THE BIG ONE THERE IS STRATEGIC VISION.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN ADDITION TO COMMUNICATION MENTIONED EARLIER, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL IS TO PROVIDE THAT STRATEGIC VISION.

SO, UM, THE EXAMPLE THAT I GIVE A LOT OF FOLKS IS, UM, IT IT YOU GUYS GIVE US, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS A DESIRED END STATE? WHAT IS THAT LEADER'S INTENT? AND MAYOR, YOU SAY, I WANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM IN PHOENIX AT STATE FARM STADIUM BY FRIDAY AT FIVE, DONE LET US WORRY ABOUT, OR LET THE, THE OTHER FOLKS WORRY ABOUT WHOSE CAR ARE WE GONNA TAKE, WHAT ROAD WE'RE GONNA TRAVEL ON? WHERE ARE WE GETTING GAS AND SNACKS? DO WE NEED MORE THAN ONE CAR? DO WE HAVE INSURANCE FOR THE CAR? UH, HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR ALL THIS STUFF? YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TIME REALLY TO BE WORRIED ABOUT.

THAT'S WHY YOU HIRE US, RIGHT? UM, BUT WE NEED FROM YOU TO TELL US WHAT YOU NEED.

AND IT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT STRATEGIC VISION IS ALSO FINANCIAL.

WHAT DOES THE CITY DURING A DISASTER, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE? OR WHAT DOES THE BUDGET ALLOW BEFORE YOU START DECLARING DISASTERS AND THINGS? SO IN THAT EXAMPLE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT YOU EVERYBODY TO BE AT STATE FARM STADIUM BY FRIDAY AT FIVE AND YOU'VE GOT $10,000 TO GET THERE IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN I NEED EVERYBODY THERE BY EIGHT O'CLOCK TONIGHT AND HERE'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS BILL, RIGHT? WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

AND THAT, AND THAT'S A VERY VALUABLE ROLE, VERY IMPORTANT ROLE FOR, FOR COUNCIL FOR USE THE POLICY GROUP, UM, TO, TO PLAY.

COULD I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.

I HAVE, I HAVE HEARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE, THAT EMERGENCY MAN, EMERGENCY

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UM, IF, IS THAT TRUE? AND HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE STRUCTURE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH CITIES BELOW THAT? IT, I WILL SAY IT IS, YES, IT IS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, BUT NOT JUST AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

UH, THERE IS STATE LAW THAT SAYS EVERY JURISDICTION MUST HAVE AN EMERGENCY MANAGER.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES WHERE THAT IS, UM, KIND OF WHAT WE CALL IN OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED.

IT GETS ASSIGNED TO A POLICE CHIEF, A FIRE CHIEF, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, TO BE ALSO THE EMERGENCY MANAGER.

UM, I DON'T THINK IT DOES, UH, THE JOB JUSTICE IN THAT CASE.

UM, WHICH IS WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD THE CITY FOR BRINGING IN YOUR OWN EMERGENCY MANAGER, UH, TO REALLY WORK ON A LOT OF THOSE, UH, PRE-DISASTER THINGS.

YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING, THE PREPAREDNESS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MITIGATION ASPECTS BEF BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

SO, UM, EVERY JURISDICTION SHOULD HAVE ONE UNDER ARIZONA LAW.

UM, A LOT DO NOT AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL, DON'T HAVE THEM AS INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY KIND OF A COMPANION JOB TO, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE CHIEF OR A LIEUTENANT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

SO IF THE CITY DECIDED TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY MM-HMM .

AND SOMEHOW THE COUNTY DID NOT THINK IT ROSE TO THAT LEVEL, IT'S JUST ON US, NOT NECESSARILY.

UM, AND THIS IS WHERE, UM, GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH COUNT, UH, WITH THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS GONNA PLAY IN.

THAT HAS HAPPENED FOR US IN, UH, COO COUNTY, UM, I THINK THREE YEARS AGO NOW.

WE HAD THE, THE FLOODING UP IN TUON, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT.

UM, AND, AND THE, THE TOWN OF ION DECLARED AN EMERGENCY FOR THAT.

THEY ASKED THE COUNTY TO COME IN FOR SUPPORT.

UM, WE CAME INTO SUPPORT.

WE DID NOT FEEL THAT IT MET THE THRESHOLD AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

THE COUNTY WAS NOT OVEREXTENDED, OVERWHELMED, OVERBURDENED, UH, IN OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT.

SO WE DID NOT DECLARE DISASTER.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THIS FROM, FOR WHATEVER REASON.

UM, AND I'LL PICK ON ASHLEY, YOU GUYS HAVE AN INCIDENT ON THIS SIDE OF THE LINE AND YOU GUYS WANNA DECLARE, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE YAVAPI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DECLARE THE STATE OF ARIZONA COULD STILL COME IN INTO A STATE DECLARATION.

THEY HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE AT THE STATE LEVEL TO SUPPORT IT.

USUALLY IT WILL GO UP THE CHAIN, BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO, THERE ARE SOME OUTLIERS, BUT IT WOULDN'T JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN SAY IT'S ALL ON YOU, BUT, UH, WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA SUPPORT WITHOUT A STATE DECLARED EMERGENCY.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE, UM, THE, THE PERFECT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ANSWER TO A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS OF, IT DEPENDS .

ASHLEY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YEAH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING FIRST, OR NO, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TYPICALLY HISTORICALLY IT HAS BEEN AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, COUNTY FUNCTION OR STATE FUNCTION, BUT THAT IS CHANGING.

I KNOW, UM, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ALSO HAS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER AND, UM, PRESCOTT VALLEY HAS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER AS WELL AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL.

YEAH, SO ABSOLUTELY.

AS, AS TIM ALLUDED TO, IT'S A A RS 26 3 0 8, UH, THAT IS A STATUTE.

UH, I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I ALSO FIRMLY BELIEVE IN.

AND, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S GONNA BE TIM OR I, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUPPORT.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE HERE LOCALLY LIKE YOU DO WITH CHANCE, LIKE HE'S GOING TO GET TO KNOW YOUR JURISDICTION, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY FAR BETTER THAN WHAT ANY OF US COULD DO.

UH, KNOWING THE SIZE AND SHEER GEOGRAPHY AND JUST NUMBER OF INCORPORATED JURISDICTIONS AND TRIBAL PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR RESPECTIVE AREAS.

SO HAVING SOMEONE LOCALLY ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE THAT.

AND ONE OF THE, THE ISSUES WE ALSO SEE WHEN JURISDICTIONS ASSIGN THAT ROLE TO A POLICE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF, ET CETERA, UM, AND LATER, I'M SURE THIS WILL BE TOUCHED ON, BUT THEY'RE THE INCIDENT COMMANDER, THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER IS A SUPPORT TO THE INCIDENT.

AND SO THEY CAN'T SIMULTANEOUSLY RUN AN INCIDENT AND SUPPORT IT AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, IN ALL HONESTY, I DON'T FORESEE TOO MANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

LIKE IF THERE IS A DECLARATION, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DECLARATIONS, IT'S SAYING THAT WE NEED ASSISTANCE FINANCIALLY.

TYPICALLY, THAT'S THE, THE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS REIMBURSEMENT, UH, EITHER FROM STATE DOLLARS OR FEDERAL DOLLARS.

AND, UH, OUTSIDE OF MAYBE THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT TIM HAD JUST ALLUDED TO, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE TOO MANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE DON'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA STAND IN THE WAY OF YOU GUYS POTENTIALLY GETTING REIMBURSEMENT.

UM, BUT YES, IT WOULD GO FROM THE LOCALS TO THE COUNTY TO DECLARE AND THEN TO THE STATE.

UM, THERE IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, A WAY FOR YOU TO GUYS GO TO THAT.

BUT I DO WANNA PROVIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT.

UM, WE DON'T TYPICALLY GET FEMA DOLLARS, SO, UM, DON'T, DON'T HAVE TOO HIGH OF HOPES ON THAT.

UH, I WILL REFERENCE, UH, GLOBE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS HUNDRED HUNDREDS OF

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MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES AND WAS TOLD NO BY FEMA.

SO, UM, WE DIDN'T GET IT FOR RN L.

UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT, UM, ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE STATE.

AND I WILL SAY FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, UM, THE REIMBURSEMENT DOLLARS, UM, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THE NEXT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT UP WOULD OFFER TO HELP COVER SOME OF YOUR COSTS.

SO THE COUNTIES WON'T BE COMING IN TO SAY, SEDONA, YOU SPENT $10 MILLION, HERE'S A CHECK THAT IS GONNA COME FROM THE STATE.

AND THERE IS A, UH, COMMISSION AT THE STATE THAT WILL SIT DOWN, UM, TO DETERMINE THERE'S, THERE'S DISASTER FUNDING THAT IS A LINE ITEM IN THE STATE BUDGET TO SAY, UH, WE CAN HELP OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS.

SO YOU WOULD APPLY TO THE STATE FOR THAT.

OUR, THAT'S KINDA WHY WE'RE SAYING IF US AT THE COUNTY DID NOT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I THINK IT WOULD BE A FAR OUTLIER THAT THE COUNTIES DID NOT ALSO DECLARE THAT WOULD STILL COULD BE PICKED UP BY THE STATE FOR THE GOVERNOR TO ISSUE A DECLARATION, WHICH WOULD THEN, UM, ACTIVATE THOSE FUNDING RESOURCES, UH, AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND ASHLEY'S RIGHT, GETTING FEMA MONEY IS, UH, IS PRETTY DIFFICULT.

IF YOU CAN IMAGINE ALL THINGS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST, UM, HANDFUL OF YEARS, IT, IT'S INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT.

UM, AND IT, THERE IS NO SIMPLE FORMULA OF IF A DISASTER GOES ABOVE X DOLLARS, THEN WE'LL COME IN.

IT'S BASED ON PER CAPITA A NUMBER OF, UH, AMOUNT OF UNINSURED LOSSES AND JUST A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS.

UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY TO, TO DECIPHER THAT, BUT TYPICALLY IN ARIZONA, WE DON'T QUALIFY TO AND MEET THOSE THRESHOLDS, UH, TO QUALIFY FOR A LOT OF FEDERAL DISASTERS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER BIG KEY PARTS TO THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM IS, UH, PROVIDING SOME DIRECTION OR A ROADMAP TO A SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION OF AN EVENT.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET FROM THE STARTING POINT TO THE END POINT? SO, UH, LEADERSHIP WILL SIT DOWN TAKING GUIDANCE FROM A POLICY GROUP AND SAY, WHAT IS THE END STATE? WE'LL DEVELOP OBJECTIVES, YOU KNOW, PROTECT LIFE, PROTECT PROPERTY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PROTECT IN THIS.

IF THERE'S A FIRE OR A FLOOD COMING NEAR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE WANNA PROTECT VALUES AT RISK, SUCH AS, AND THEN WE TAKE THOSE OBJECTIVES AND WE'LL START DEVELOPING THOSE TACTICS AND STRATEGIES THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH TO, TO MEET THOSE OBJECTIVES.

SO IT, IT ALLOWS US ALL TO WORK ON A COORDINATED, EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PATH, MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, SEEKING THE SAME END GOAL.

AND ALSO, AGAIN, MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KIND OF SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN COCONINO COUNTY HAS TO COME DOWN TO HELP THE CITY, OR THE CITY COMES UP TO HELP COCONINO COUNTY, WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE.

SO IT REALLY ALLOWS MORE OF A PLUG AND PLAY, UM, SYSTEM.

SO WE CAN JUST PLUG PEOPLE IN THAT CHANCE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

JUST MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT.

AND I WILL EMPHASIZE IT'S NOT JUST A COMMON MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, BROKEN UP BY REGIONS OR BROKEN UP BY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

IT REALLY IS STANDARDIZED NATIONALLY.

UM, I WORKED A WILDFIRE LAST YEAR IN NEW MEXICO WHERE WE HAD PERSONNEL FROM VIRGINIA, FROM MISSISSIPPI, FROM WASHINGTON, ALL SPEAKING THE SAME MANAGEMENT LANGUAGE.

AND WE WERE ALL ABLE TO COORDINATE AND WORK THAT INCIDENT TOGETHER.

'CAUSE WE ALL HAD PRACTICED INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.

SO IT, IT REALLY IS INCREDIBLE.

AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER BIG BENEFITS RIGHT DOWN THERE IS THAT LAST ONE, IT'S COST EFFECTIVE.

IF WE'RE ALL WORKING UNDER THE SAME SYSTEM, WE'RE ALL TRACKING THE SAME NEEDS, WE'RE ALL ORDERING THE SAME RESOURCE.

WE ONLY NEED ONE BULLDOZER.

INSTEAD OF 10 PEOPLE SAYING, YEAH, I KNOW WHERE TO GET ONE AND NOW 10 SHOW UP.

UH, IT, IT ALLOWS US TO BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH A DISASTER HAPPENS, SOMEONE SOMEWHERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO FOOT THE BILL, THAT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE TAX DOLLARS.

SO HOW CAN WE LESSEN THAT IMPACT ON THE TAXPAYERS, UH, WHEN WE DO HAVE A DISASTER? SO ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT, THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE DAY-TO-DAY STRUCTURE, UH, OR IN THE STRUCTURE OF INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM, UM, YOU, YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME JOB DURING A DISASTER AS YOU DO DURING BLUE SKY DAYS.

UM, A A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, UM, ONE THAT I TELL, AND I'M NOT SURE IF, UM, IF ANYONE KNEW, UH, THE LATE DEPUTY CHIEF JERRY BILLS FROM FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, JERRY'S A GOOD GUY.

HE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A DEPUTY CHIEF.

HE RAN A LOT OF THE OPERATIONS DAY-TO-DAY FOR FLAG FIRE.

UM, YOU KNOW, HE WAS, UH, JUST BELOW, HE WAS A SECOND TIER IN THEIR ORGANIZATION, BUT HE

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WAS ALSO ASSIGNED TO ONE OF THE, THE BIG COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS HE COULD DEPLOY OUT WITH THE TEAMS. LIKE WE'VE GOT ON THE, THE POCKET FIRE RIGHT NOW.

AND ALL HE DID ON THAT TEAM, HE JUST A FINANCE ADMIN GUY.

HE, I DON'T WANNA BE IN CHARGE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE THING.

SO JUST BECAUSE HE IS A CHIEF DURING HIS DAY JOB DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN HE IS A CHIEF DURING AN INCIDENT.

AND THAT CAN APPLY, UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN EITHER DIRECTION.

UM, WE LOOK FOR THE RIGHT PERSON, THE RIGHT SKILLS IN THE RIGHT POSITION.

SO, UM, A A GOOD EXAMPLE, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR A, YOU KNOW, WELL, A HOSTAGE SITUATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHO'S GONNA BE IN CHARGE? WHO'S THE BEST PERSON TO DECIDE WHAT ACTIONS ARE GONNA TAKE THERE? AND IT MAY NOT BE CHIEF FOLEY, IT MAY BE A LIEUTENANT WHO IS THE, THE, THE TEAM LEADER OF THE SWAT TEAM.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE RIGHT TRAINING, THE RIGHT SKILLS IN THAT POSITION.

SO JUST BECAUSE YOUR DAY-TO-DAY RANK IS ONE THING, IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME IN AN EVENT.

THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE, PART OF THE REASONS THAT ARIZONA QUALIFICATION SYSTEM IS, IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

AND THAT'S RECENT, THAT'S WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS HERE.

BUT THAT ALLOWS SOMEBODY WHO MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE THAT DAY-TO-DAY ROLE TO HAVE A MECHANISM TO ACTUALLY GET CERTIFIED TO WORK EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.

AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE PURSUING WITH STAFF AND LOOKING TO EXPAND TO OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BECOME INTERESTED IN FULFILLING DIFFERENT ROLES INSIDE OUR EOC.

SO TIM, LET'S TAKE THE POCKET FIRE THAT'S ON US FOREST SERVICE LAND, THE INCIDENT COMMANDER.

WHAT IS HIS DAY JOB? UM, THE INCIDENT COMMANDER RIGHT NOW IS JOHN TRUITT.

HE WORKS FOR STATE FORESTRY FOR DFFM.

SO THEY CHOSE A STATE OFFICIAL AS THE INCIDENT COMMANDER HE HAS, UM, YES, BUT NOT BECAUSE OF THAT, NOT BECAUSE OF HIS DAY JOB SPECIFICALLY, BUT AS CHANCE MENTIONED, THERE ARE, UH, UNDER THE ARIZONA QUALIFICATION SYSTEM, THERE'S A VERY SIMILAR SYSTEM CALLED, UH, UNDER THE NATIONAL WILDFIRE CREDENTIALING SYSTEM THAT, UH, THERE'S, THEY CALL 'EM POSITION TASK BOOKS, AND THERE THESE BIG, BIG BOOKS LIKE CHECK ALL THE BOXES TO SEE HAVE, CAN YOU DO THIS? HAVE YOU DEMONSTRATED THIS? UH, USUALLY THEY'RE OPEN FOR LIKE FIVE YEARS.

YOU SERVE AS A TRAINEE AND, AND KIND OF WORK YOUR WAY UP.

HE'S JUST BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT ROLE.

UM, OR IN THE, THE WILDFIRE WORLD BECAUSE OF HIS DAY JOB.

IT'S AFFORDED HIM THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO, TO GET THE TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE NEEDED TO BE AN INCIDENT COMMANDER.

UM, UH, ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS, UH, ONE OF THE TEAM'S LIAISON OFFICERS, WHICH A LIAISON FOR THE TEAM.

THEY ARE MY TOUCHPOINT AS A COUNTY OR OUTSIDE AGENCY TO THAT TEAM.

UM, THE GENTLEMAN IS A, HE'S ON A TYPE THREE TEAM, WHICH IS A REGIONAL TEAM, AND HE'S A LIAISON THERE, BUT HE'S NOW A TRAINEE ON THE, THE COMPLEX TEAMS TO BE A LIAISON.

BUT HIS DAY JOB, HE WORKS FOR CITY FLAGSTAFF PUBLIC WORKS.

SO, UM, HE JUST, HE UNDERSTANDS HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS, AND HAS JUST DECIDED TO, TO WORK ON THAT CREDENTIALING.

SO NOT NECESSARILY TIED SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR DAY JOB, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THAT DAY JOB WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET SOME OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU NEED.

WHO MAKES THE DECISIONS ABOUT THE COMMAND TEAM? HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? UM, SO THE NORTHERN ARIZONA REGION, THERE'S A NORTHERN ARIZONA TYPE THREE TEAM, THERE'S A FIRE BOARD.

UM, SO WE, I SIT ON THAT BOARD.

IT'S A LOT OF THE, THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE, UH, JURISDICTION OVER, UH, PUBLIC LANDS UP THERE, AND, UM, TEAM MEMBERS ARE OUT, THEY'LL ACTUALLY APPLY TO THAT AND THAT BOARD WILL REVIEW THEIR CREDENTIALS AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE THE BASIC MINIMUMS? UH, AND THEN THEY'RE SELECTED THAT WAY, UH, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

UM, AND I, I, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TOO MUCH, BUT THERE IS A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UM, FOR TEAMS THAT ARE ON THE, THESE NATIONAL, UH, COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS. THANK YOU.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S JUST A REAL QUICK, UH, ORG CHART FOR THE BASIC INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM STRUCTURE.

SO YOU'VE GOT THAT INCIDENT COMMANDER, THAT'S THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING ON THE GROUND FOR THAT OPERATION MOVING FORWARD.

AND THAT REAL RED BOX OFF TO THE LEFT IS THE MAC GROUP.

THAT MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION GROUP OR THE POLICY GROUP, THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS FALL INTO PLACE.

SO IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT HERE IN SEDONA, YOU WOULD HAVE AN INCIDENT COMMANDER.

UH, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE GETTING THEIR OVERALL HIGH LEVEL GUIDANCE FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM COUNCIL, FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, THE, THE CITY LEADERSHIP TEAM WILL BE KIND OF SETTING WHAT THE LONG-TERM VISION, UH, AND OVERARCHING HIGH LEVEL GOALS WOULD BE FOR THAT INCIDENT.

AND THEN UNDER THAT INCIDENT COMMANDER, WE'VE GOT FOUR SECTIONS.

THE OPERATIONS SECTION IS, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KIND OF DO THE STUFF,

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YOU KNOW, SO, AND THE WILDFIRE RIGHT NOW, THE OPERATIONS SECTION IS THE ONE THAT COORDINATES ALL BOOTS ON THE GROUND FOR THIS OPERATIONAL PERIOD TODAY.

WHILE THE PLANNING SECTION IS LOOKING AT WHAT ARE WE GONNA NEED TO DO TONIGHT AND TOMORROW AND TWO OR THREE DAYS DOWN THE ROAD TO SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS LOGISTICS, THEY'RE AMAZON, THEY GET ALL THE STUFF, THEY FEED YOU, THEY HOUSE YOU, UM, THEY GET YOU ALL THE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW ALL THE EQUIPMENT RESOURCES YOU NEED, THAT COMES OUT OF LOGISTICS.

AND THEN THE POOR FOLKS IN FINANCE, ADMIN, THEY FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THAT'S A GROUP THAT I, UH, GOD, THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB AND I, I'M LOST.

I JUST START HANDING IN INVOICES, CAN WE AFFORD THIS? I'M, UM, THAT TAKES A SPECIAL BREED TO DO THAT.

SO, BUT THE BIG IMPORTANT PIECE, AGAIN, THIS IS THAT SCALABLE, UM, IT, WE CAN GROW THAT OUT IF WE NEED TO.

USUALLY.

UH, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK, THAT OPERATION SECTION IS GONNA BE OVERSEEN BY AN OPERATION SECTION CHIEF.

THAT PERSON MAY BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE WORK BY THEMSELVES, BUT AS AN INCIDENT GROWS, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA NEED MORE SUPPORT TO COME IN.

BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US ON THE LOGISTICS SIDE, DECONFLICT RESOURCE ALLOCATION, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, TRACKING REIMBURSEMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, FOLLOWING, UH, IN ARIZONA, MAKING SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING CITY PROCUREMENT POLICY, STATE PROCUREMENT POLICY, AND FEDERAL PROCUREMENT POLICY, OR WHICHEVER ONE IS MOST STRICT.

UM, AND, AND THAT WHEN IT'S THE LIGHTS AND SIRENS PHASE IS, IS NOT ALWAYS EASY TO DO.

SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE, UM, COUNSEL, YOU MENTIONED BRINGING IN A AN EMERGENCY MANAGER AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

THAT'S THINGS THAT WE START LOOKING AT BEFORE AN EVENT HAPPENS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA COORDINATE ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME.

ONCE IT DOES, DOES THIS DECONFLICT RESOURCE, WHAT WAS IT? DOES THAT MEAN FIX THE BOTTLENECKS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO, UH, GOOD EXAMPLE OF DE CONFLICTING RESOURCES, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, WE'RE SEEING IT RIGHT NOW ON THE POCKET FIRE.

SO, UH, THERE ARE A FINITE NUMBER OF AIRCRAFT ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE ABLE TO, UH, BE USED ON WILDFIRES.

AND, AND I, I DON'T, I'M JUST GONNA USE NUMBERS AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT IF THERE'S ONLY 10 AIRCRAFT IN THE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE ORDERED SEVEN OF 'EM, AND WE'VE GOT ALL SEVEN OF 'EM HERE, WELL THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN FIRES HAVE STARTED ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST, THOSE AIRCRAFT MAY BE NEEDED ELSEWHERE.

SO DECONFLICTION OF RESOURCES ALLOWS US TO COME IN AND SAY, WHERE'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY? AND MAYBE IT'S THAT OTHER FIRE.

SO WE HAVE HAD, EVEN IN THIS CASE, WE'VE HAD AIRCRAFT OR PERSONNEL, THEY CAN PULL THOSE OFF OF ONE FIRE, ONE INCIDENT AND MOVE THEM TO ANOTHER.

UM, OR IF THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT, WE'LL CALL IT SIGNIFICANT FLOODING EVENT THAT IMPACTS BOTH COCONINO AND YAVAPAI COUNTIES, AND WE BOTH NEED THOSE RESOURCES.

IT'S YOU GUYS THAT WOULD DECIDE, OR THOSE POLICY GROUPS DECIDE WHO GETS THE RESOURCE AND, AND WHAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY THERE.

TYPICALLY, I WILL SAY, UH, DE CONFLICTING RESOURCES RARELY WOULD MAKE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, RARELY MAKES IT UP TO THE POLICY GROUP TO HAVE TO DECIDE.

UM, HONESTLY, I, I THINK FOR 99% OF THE TIME, UM, I WOULD SAY WE'RE PROBABLY NOT DOING OUR JOBS WELL ENOUGH IF WE CAN'T FIGURE THAT OUT ON OUR OWN OR HOW TO GET OTHER STUFF.

IF, UM, IF WE HAVE TO CALL IN YOU GUYS TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR US, THEN IT'S PROBABLY A, A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT.

WELL, TIM, YOU HAVE 600 PLUS RESOURCES ON THE, ON THE GROUND, AND IF YOU LOOK AT WATCH DUTY, WHICH I THINK WE ALL SUBSCRIBE TO, UH, THERE'S FIRES ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE SOUTHWEST AND IN CALIFORNIA.

SO HOW DO WE KNOW WE CAN KEEP THOSE 600 RESOURCES? THE THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE DON'T, BUT, UH, I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFFING COMES IN, UM, FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL STATE, FEDERAL LEVELS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FIRE FIGHT, WILDLAND FIRE AGENCIES, UM, ACROSS, UM, THE SOUTH, REALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT REALLY FOCUSED IN THE WEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, ARE STAFFED UP.

UH, AND THAT WE HAVE THESE RESOURCES BECAUSE THERE ARE TEAMS THAT ARE SITTING DOWN DOING THE EXACT SAME THING OF IF THINGS GET BAD, IF WE HAVE X NUMBER OF FIRES OR THESE TYPES OF FIRES, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE NEED? WHAT RESOURCES DO WE NEED? SO THEY START THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THOSE ARE THERE.

SO I THINK WE DO HAVE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT,

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IS WE HAVE THIS HUGE NUMBER OF RESOURCES RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE ALSO BEING TOLD BY THE INCIDENT COMMANDER TO EXPECT THE FIRE TO BURN FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND SO THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S COME UP.

PEOPLE FEEL CONFIDENT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE 600 PLUS PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.

BUT, AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND WITHOUT GOING WAY DEEP IN THE WEEDS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WILDFIRE SEASON IN ARIZONA, OR JUNE IS WILDFIRE SEASON FOR US.

THAT'S NOT ALWAYS WILDFIRE SEASON IN SAY, MISSISSIPPI OR OKLAHOMA.

IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

WELL, THERE'S WILDLAND CREWS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

SO THE, THE FOREST SERVICE HAS WHAT THEY CALL SEVERITY FUNDING OR SEVERITY PROGRAMS THAT IF, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD THEY CAN REQUEST WITH SEVERITY.

AND BASICALLY IT, IT ALLOWS THEM TO REACH OUT TO OKLAHOMA AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU GUYS HAVE EXTRA CREWS THAT YOU JUST WANT TO COME AND, AND HANG OUT OUT HERE? WE'LL PAY YOU JUST IN CASE BECAUSE OUR CONDITIONS ARE BAD.

YOURS AREN'T.

SO DO YOU GUYS WANT TO COME OUT HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND WORK FOR US? UM, SO WE'VE GOT, UM, I SAY WE, UH, THE, THE NATIONAL FOREST IN THE REGION HAVE SEVERITY CREWS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT.

WE'LL SEE 'EM DRIVING AROUND, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE BIG GREED TRUCKS.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL USUALLY HAVE WHAT STATE THEY'RE FROM ON THERE, DIFFERENT PLACES.

BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT 'EM FROM, UH, FROM ALL OVER THE WEST IN THIS REGION RIGHT NOW.

SOME ARE ASSIGNED TO THE FIRE AND SOME ARE JUST HERE IN CASE SOMETHING STARTS.

I I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST RELYING ON THE SOUTH RESOURCES THAT ARE FROM THE SOUTHWEST, BUT THEY'RE FROM THE NATION IF NECESSARY.

YES, MA'AM.

TO THE TRAILS AND EVERYTHING LIKE RIGHT AWAY.

GOOD POINT.

SO WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE INCIDENT COMMANDER.

UH, KINDA WANNA SHOW JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT INCIDENT COMMANDER'S ROLE IS.

REMEMBER THAT'S THAT, UM, THAT GUY OR GIRL THAT'S GONNA BE OUT THERE IN THE FIELD KIND OF COORDINATING ALL FIELD RESPONSE.

THEY ARE THE PERSON IN CHARGE, BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

THEY GET THEIR DIRECTION FROM THE POLICY GROUP, WHICH USUALLY COMES THROUGH THE SENIOR OFFICIAL.

SO FOR MUNICIPALITIES, A LOT OF THE TIME, IF, IF THERE'S A DISASTER, UM, IF, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, CHIEF LES IS OUT AND HE'S THE INCIDENT COMMANDER AND IT'S A LARGE EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, HE MAY BE WORKING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER AS KIND OF THE CITY'S AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR REPRESENTATIVE, UM, WHO HAS ALREADY BEEN MEETING WITH YOU TO, TO KIND OF HELP FUNNEL THAT INFORMATION THROUGH.

THEY ALSO WORK TO, UH, ENSURE COORDINATION BETWEEN, UM, THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM APPARATUS, THE FIELD APPARATUS, AND THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

YOU KNOW, AS CHANCE MENTIONED, UH, AND ASHLEY MENTIONED AS WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EOC ISN'T GONNA BE OUT IN THE FIELD DOING STUFF.

THE EO C'S GONNA BE AT, AT ANOTHER REMOTE LOCATION WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THOSE FIELD OPERATIONS.

UM, GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE EOC IS, IS DOING RIGHT NOW, UH, UP IN COCONINO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT THE 600 FIRE CRY FIREFIGHTERS AND CREWS OUT WORKING RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE FOCUSED AND HAVE THEIR HANDS FULL ON FIRE SUPPRESSION.

UM, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY, I DON'T WANNA SAY THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED, BUT THEIR PRIMARY ROLE IS NOT TO WORRY ABOUT EVACUATIONS.

AND WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAD TO BE EVACUATED? WELL, THAT'S WHERE THE EOC STEPS IN.

WE WORK WITH THE RED CROSS AND OUR OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UH, TO KIND OF HELP ALL THE ANCILLARY NEEDS OF AN EVENT OUTSIDE OF THIS, THE INITIAL FIRE SUPPRESSION.

SO, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, NEW LITTLE ACRONYM UP THERE, J-C-J-I-C, THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

AND HOW, UM, THE INFORMATION FLOW FOR AN EVENT, UH, IS HANDLED THROUGH THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER.

I WILL ADD TIM, TOO, THAT OUR, OUR EOC, OUR OWN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER IS FUNCTIONING IN THE SAME WAY, THE SAME INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.

WE PULL IN FOLKS AND WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING SECTION CHIEF AND THE LOGISTICS SECTION CHIEF AND THE OPERATIONS SECTION CHIEF, AND WE EXERCISED THAT OVER THE FIRST 2 72 HOURS OF THE, OF THE POCKET FIRE AS WELL.

CHIEF FOLEY WAS ACTING AS OUR OWN INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR, YOU KNOW, THE EVACUATION OPERATIONS AND IMPACTS THAT WE WERE SEEING TO THE CITY.

AND IT WAS MIRRORING WHAT WAS HAPPENING OUT IN THE FIELD JUST UNDER AN, AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER STRUCTURE, RIGHT? SO WE WERE MORE IN A SUPPORT ROLE FOR THE FOLKS WHO WERE OUT THERE DOING EVACUATIONS AND FIREFIGHTING.

UM, AND WE WERE OPERATING IN THAT SUPPORT CAPACITY.

AND, UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE AS THE EVENT WAS UNFOLDING, UM, SATURDAY MORNING, EARLY, SUPER EARLY, I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM ALEX SCHLUTER DIRECT TO ME, UM, THAT THEY HAD DETERMINED IN THEIR PLANNING THAT THEY NEEDED TO CLOSE ACCESS

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AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE TWO WAYS WE'RE GONNA GET THAT DONE.

ONE IS THROUGH OUR TRAILHEAD SHUTTLE SYSTEM MAKING, UM, ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.

AND THE OTHER WAS JUST THE, UM, CLOSURE OF THE HIGHWAY, THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO THEN AS SOON AS I GOT THE INFORMATION FROM HIM, I REACHED OUT TO CHANCE 'CAUSE I KNEW THE EOC WAS UP AND I SAID, OKAY, HERE'S THE TWO REQUESTS THAT WE JUST RECEIVED.

UM, YOU GUYS HANDLE THE PD PART.

AND THEN I CONTACTED THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER SUPER QUICKLY TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE SHUTTLE SYSTEM KNEW THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT ROUTE SCHEDULE OR CANCELED ROUTES OR WHATEVER.

SO IT ALL JUST SORT OF UNFOLDS AND A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, A LOT OF TEXTS, , YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN THEY CALL AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FROM THIS CITY, OF COURSE WE'RE LIKE, YES, WE'LL GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE READY TO GO AND KNOW THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO, ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD POINTS.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES.

SO IN THAT, IN THAT SCENARIO, THE CALL CAME FROM FOREST SERVICE TO YOU, BUT STEPHANIE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WAS THE INCIDENT, WAS OUR COMMANDER.

SO HOW, HOW DID, HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW'D THE FLOW GET DETERMINED OF INFORMATION THERE? I THINK I JUST WANNA KNOW SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE GOING FROM CHINA.

'CAUSE ALL THIS IS ABOUT CONSISTENCY, RIGHT? AND HAVING A ONE FORMAT.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS ALL FITS INTO THAT FORMAT.

WELL, I THINK HE'S THE AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR, RIGHT? AND SO I GUESS HE WAS TREATING ME AS OUR AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR AND HAVING THAT DIRECT CONTACT.

AND I GUESS FROM HAVING BEEN IN OTHER INCIDENTS IN EOCS AND OTHER PLACES I'VE WORKED, THAT VERY FIRST OPERATIONAL PERIOD IS ALWAYS JUST SO INCREDIBLY BUSY .

AND THEN IT KIND OF SETTLES DOWN AND YOU GET, UM, GET THINGS GOING.

SO I THINK THE REASON HE REACHED OUT TO ME DIRECTLY WAS JUST THAT AGENCY.

I MEAN, IT WAS GREAT THAT IT HAPPENED.

I WAS JUST ASKING 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO JUST GET THE FLOW.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

AND, AND I THINK YOU'RE BEING KIND.

SO I, I WOULD DESCRIBE THOSE FIRST INITIAL, UM, HOURS OF A SERIOUS INCIDENT IS NOT NECESSARILY BUSY, BUT CHAOTIC.

UM, AND, AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS THE, UM, POTENTIALLY THE DOWNSIDE TO THE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA.

UM, YOU KNOW, CHANCE WAS ABLE TO GO TO NEW MEXICO ON A FIRE.

UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO HAWAII IN 23 FOR THE MAUI FIRES.

AND WE BOTH KINDA HAD SIMILAR TAKEAWAYS WHEN WE COME BACK AS, UM, THE, THE LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA IS NOT AS HIGH EVERYWHERE ELSE.

UH, AND AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE GRATEFUL FOR.

BUT IT CAN ALSO BE A DOWNSIDE IN THAT, UM, CHIEF FOLEY'S, THE INCIDENT COMMANDER AND I, I NEED SOMETHING, BUT I'VE KNOWN CHANCE A LOT LONGER.

I STILL LIKE IT CHIEF, BUT, SO, YOU KNOW, AND MAYOR, YOU MAY HAVE SOMEONE CALL YOU SAYS, HEY, CAN WE GET THIS FROM THE CITY? AND I THINK THE, THE, UM, THE IMPORTANT PIECE TO KNOW IS, IS TO KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE IN THAT INCIDENT COMMAND ROLLED AND IN THOSE SYSTEMS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I CALLED CHANCE, CHANCE CAN I HAVE 15 POLICE OFFICERS? WELL, HE DOESN'T MAKE THAT DECISION.

HE SAID, WELL, LET ME FIND OUT.

THEN HE JUST PUTS IT INTO THE SYSTEM KNOWING WHO THOSE RIGHT CONTACTS ARE.

SO, YOU KNOW, AN AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR'S GONNA REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHO THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH.

BUT THEN IT'S JUST, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON EACH OF US JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS CHANNELED INTO THE SYSTEM IN THE RIGHT WAY.

SO WE'RE ALL TRACKING THAT ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND THAT AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR TO AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR CONVERSATION IS VERY COMMON.

THAT HAPPENS A LOT.

THEY SHARE INFORMATION BETWEEN EACH OTHER, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? ONCE, UH, CITY S**C, AS THE AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR GOT THAT INFORMATION, SHE PASSED IT OFF TO ME WHO WAS PRIMARILY SERVING AS A LIAISON FOR THE EOC TO THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES.

AND IT TYPICALLY GOES THROUGH THE LIAISON OFFICER TO FILTER AND INFORM THEIR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER OF REQUESTS FROM OUTSIDE AGENCIES.

UM, SO THAT'S HOW THAT COMMUNICATION WORKED.

AND THAT FLOW WORKED PRIMARILY THROUGH LIAISON OFFICERS, BOTH ON THE FIRE AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR, AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEN TO ME AS A LIAISON OFFICER FOR OUR OWN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

AND REOC HAD TWO OPERATIONAL PERIODS DAILY.

WE HAD A DAY SHIFT AND A NIGHT SHIFT, AND THAT WOULD TRADE HANDS BETWEEN, UH, CHIEF FOLEY AND COMMANDER PENNER IS INCIDENT COMMANDER, AND THEY WOULD HAVE A TRANSFER OF COMMAND BRIEFING WHERE THEY SHARED THAT INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT OPERATIONAL PERIOD.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT FLOW OF INFORMATION PRIMARILY OCCURRED FROM THE AASS AGENCY ADMINISTRATORS TO LIAISONS TO THE INCIDENT COMMANDER

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TO FURTHER INFORM THE, UH, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

AND, AND MY APOLOGIES, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M STANDING HERE HOLDING THE MOUSE AND TURNED ON THE SUBTITLES, BUT, SORRY, .

UM, SO QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS, AND, AND THINKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CITY OF SEDONA, WHAT ARE SOME FACTORS THAT MAY AFFECT THE COMPLEXITY OF AN INCIDENT DOWN HERE? MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.

MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, COMPLEX TERRAIN, LIMITED ROAD ACCESS.

A LOT OF OUT OF AREA VISITORS, , AGING POPULATION DON'T LIVE HERE.

AGING POPULATION, LOT OF OUT OF AREA VISITORS.

LIMITED ROAD.

AS, UH, AS A COLLECTIVE AND, UH, ENSURE THAT EVERYONE'S, UM, NEEDS, RESOURCES, OPINIONS, EVERYTHING IS HEARD.

SO PROCLIVITY OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.

OOH, YOU SAID THE WORD.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, SO WHAT ARE WE DO, AND THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PREPARE FOR THOSE? HOW ARE WE CONSIDERING THAT AS WE, YOU KNOW, START LOOKING AT OUR PLANS? AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY A, A, A HUGE ROLE FOR, UH, YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGER WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLANS, UH, OF HOW DO WE USE IPAS TO MESSAGE THOSE VISITORS THAT ARE HERE THAT HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR NEXEL.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE THAT DANGER HAPPENS? WHAT, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT IN, IN, IN AN EVACUATION, WE HAVE POTENTIALLY AN AGING POPULATION THAT MAY NOT MOVE AS FAST AS SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OR DO THEY NEED EVACUATION ASSISTANCE? UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR ACCESS AND FUNCTIONAL NEEDS POPULATIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE FOLKS THAT HAVE POWERED MEDICAL DEVICES OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT, THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER TO GET THEM OUT OF AN AREA ON LIMITED ROADS? UH, AND THEN WHERE DO THEY GO? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL GOOD THINGS TO, TO CONSIDER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN VERY UNIQUE CHALLENGES, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS.

UH, OH, THAT HIS THING THERE WE GOING BACK.

SO SOME OTHER THINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS THE INCIDENT PLANNING TO LAST? UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SMALL LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A A GRASS FIRE AND A BACKYARD, UH, YOU KNOW, A A HOUSE FIRE, HOW LONG WERE WILL THOSE LAST VERSUS A FLOODING EVENT THAT TAKES OUT, UH, ROADS OR BRIDGES OR SOME CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE? AND THEN HOW LONG DO WE NEED TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR, UM, SUPPORT TO GET TO SEDONA TO HELP FROM THE TIME, UM, THE, THE COMMUNITY REALIZES WE NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, TO THE TIME THAT GETS ORDERED TO THE TIME THAT IT GETS HERE.

HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU SELF SUSTAIN FOR THAT LONG? UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR RESOURCES TO GET FROM FLAGSTAFF TO HERE VERSUS TO GET FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, FLAGSTAFF TO SAY FOR ITS OWN? YEAH.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN AN INCIDENT'S OVER? THERE'S A LOADED QUESTION.

AND, AND I WOULD ASK, IS THE INCIDENT, AND WE'LL USE THIS WILDFIRE AS AN EXAMPLE, IS THE INCIDENT OVER WHEN THE FIRE'S OUT, WHAT NEXT? RIGHT? WHAT DOES RECOVERY LOOK LIKE? AND, AND RECOVERY MAY NOT BE A SEDONA RESPONSIBILITY.

IT STAYS ALL ON FEDERAL LAND.

THAT'S FOR, FOR THEM.

BUT UNTIL THEN, ARE THERE OTHER IMPACTS, UH, TO CONSIDER? WHAT DOES THIS INCIDENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OUTCOMES OF THAT? WHAT IS THAT GOING TO MEAN FOR THIS COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD? ANOTHER EXAMPLE, UH, 2022, TUNNEL AND PIPELINE FIRES, RIGHT? THOSE WERE, UH, IN THE TIMBERLINE DONI PARK NEIGHBORHOODS JUST KIND OF NORTHEAST OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE GOT THE FIRES OUT, BUT WHAT NEXT? UH, AND THEN, UM, WHEN MONSOON SEASON CAME AROUND, ABOUT SIX WEEKS LATER, WE HAD OVER 40 FLOODING EVENTS, MAJOR FLOODING EVENTS, AND ABOUT A SIX WEEK TIMEFRAME.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY THINKING, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THE FIRE INCIDENT IS OVER, BUT IS THE THE HARM THE THREAT THAT DANGER OVER? AND ANOTHER LITTLE CONCEPT, UNIFIED COMMAND.

THIS IS INSTEAD OF HAVING, UM, ONE INCIDENT COMMANDER, UH, THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS IMPACT, IT'S IF THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, LARGELY IMPACTING YAVAPAI COUNTY IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, WHO'S THE INCIDENT COMMANDER, AND YOU MAY HAVE, UH, AN INCIDENT COMMANDER FROM THE CITY AND FROM THE COUNTY, THOSE FOLKS WOULD WORK TOGETHER, UM, AND, AND HAVE ONE VOICE TO OPERATE

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AND WE HAVE ONE MISSION MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS CONCLUSION OF THAT.

IT DOES MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING UP LEGAL AUTHORITY OVER AN INCIDENT.

UH, IT HELPS TO, AGAIN, DECONFLICT THOSE RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE NEED IS, UH, IS STREAMLINED, IS CONSISTENT, UM, AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MANAGING BASED ON WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS.

WHAT DO WE NEED OUTTA YOU GUYS? HERE'S THE FUN PART.

YOU GUYS MENTIONED DECLARATIONS OF EMERGENCY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, EARLIER AND, AND ONE THING THAT THE STATE THAT WE'VE KIND OF HAVE ALL SAID TO, UM, AND, AND IF YOU WANT THE LEGAL LANGUAGE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSULT ATTORNEY.

I DON'S SO SMART WITH THAT.

BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR WAY I SUM IT UP ARE, ARE, IS THE COMMUNITY? IS SEDONA OVERWHELMED? AND WHAT DOES OVERWHELMED MEAN? DO YOU NEED MORE, UM, PEOPLE, PLACES, RESOURCES, EQUIPMENT, UM, OR HAVE YOU EXHAUSTED OR NEARLY GOING TO EXHAUST THE FINANCIAL EMERGENCY RESERVE ACCOUNT OR WHATEVER YOU MAY HAVE, UH, FOR CONTINGENCY FUNDING AND THAT KIND OF THING.

AND IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU START TO GET TO THAT WHERE WE NEED TO ASK FOR FUNDING OR EXTRA HELP, THAT IS THE DECLARATION PROCESS.

SO, UM, HOWEVER THAT WORKS HERE, UH, IN COCONINO COUNTY, OUR BOARD CAME TOGETHER RIGHT BEFORE COVID, I BELIEVE, AND, AND PASSED A, A RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY, UH, ON THEIR BEHALF.

UM, A LOT OF THAT IS, UH, JUST FOR TIME SAKE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET, UH, FORMAL MEETINGS POSTED AND, AND, AND EVERYBODY TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY IF THINGS HAPPEN IN THE SUMMER.

UH, OUR BOARD MAY BE ON THEIR SUMMER BREAK, PEOPLE AREN'T IN TOWN.

SO IT ALLOWS US TO, TO HANDLE THAT MORE EFFECTIVELY.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND YOUR ROLES REALLY COME IN.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LIKE, YES, WE DO NEED TO DECLARE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN OUR CITY CODE AS WELL, THAT THE MAYOR, LIKE THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE COUNTIES, IS ABLE TO DECLARE A DISASTER, UM, UNILATERALLY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE, UH, UM, THE REST OF THE COUNCILS TO DO THAT.

I DO WANNA THROW OUT THERE, UM, FORGOT TO MENTION IT EARLIER, BUT IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE MAY SEE A DECLARATION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ABOVE THAT, SOMETIMES THAT DECLARATION'S, UM, IN PLACE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU TO ACTIVATE AN EMERGENCY POLICY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE HERE.

THAT IS A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IT'S LIKE, NO, WE DON'T NEED YOUR HELP, WE JUST NEED TO DO STUFF INTERNALLY.

UH, YEAH, VERY GOOD POINT.

SO I, WE DO KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT HAVE SAID FOR PROCUREMENT, IF YOU'RE NORMAL PROCUREMENT, IF IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THEN YOU HAVE TO GET THREE BIDS.

UM, OR, UH, EXCUSE ME, UNDER $50,000 YOU HAVE TO GET THREE BEDS.

BUT UNDER AN EMERGENCY POLICY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PASSED, IT'S LIKE, WELL, IF IT'S OVER, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED, THEN WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT.

SO IT ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, SOME THINGS TO, TO CONSIDER WITH LEGAL.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT.

KIND OF PROVIDE THAT STRATEGIC POLICY GUIDANCE AND SETTING THOSE PRIORITIES FOR OBJECTIVES, BUT THEN DELEGATING AUTHORITY FOR OPERATIONS TO INCIDENT COMMAND OR THE EOC.

AND WHAT DOES THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY LOOK LIKE? UM, WE, WE SEE THIS VERY COMMONLY, AS CHANCE MENTIONED IN THE, THE FIRE WORLD, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

UM, BUT IT, I WILL DIFFER WITH FEMA HERE.

FEMA SAID, DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY MAY BE IN WRITING.

I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, AND THAT IT MUST BE IN WRITING.

UM, I THINK WE ALL KNOW IF IT, IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN KIND OF THING.

BUT WHAT'S THAT DOCUMENT TRACKING.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE A DISASTER AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, UM, REIMBURSEMENT FUNDING, COCONINO COUNTY HAD THIS INCIDENT OR HAD THIS HAPPEN TO US SEVERAL YEARS AGO, CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CALLED US.

WE'VE GOT AN INCIDENT, WE NEED YOU GUYS TO SET UP THE EOC FOR US.

COOL.

WE'RE ON IT.

WE SET UP THE EOC, WE RAN THE E OOC FOR SEVERAL DAYS, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF RELATIONSHIPS.

A PHONE CALL WAS ALL THAT WAS NEEDED TO GET US ACTIVATED.

EVERYBODY IN GOOD FAITH, WE SENT THE WHOLE, UM, REIMBURSEMENT PACKET TO THE STATE.

THEY STARTED GOING THROUGH THE, THE STATE AND FEDERAL CHECKLIST FOR IT AND SAID, WHERE, WHERE'S THE WRITTEN REQUEST TO ACTIVATE THE COUNTY? WELL, HE, NO, HE CALLED ME, RIGHT? WHERE'S THE WRITTEN REQUEST? SO MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION IS GONNA BE KEY.

BUT WHAT DOES THAT DELEGATION DO? IT ALLOWS YOU

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AS A POLICY GROUP TO SET THE RULES THAT THAT INCOMING INCIDENT COMMANDER INCOMING TEAM WILL FOLLOW WHEN THEY'RE WORKING FOR YOU.

SO, UM, YOU GIVE THEM THE OBJECTIVES, YOU KIND OF GIVE THEM THAT END STATE.

YOU SAY, HERE'S HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE TO SPEND, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO SPEND IT.

UM, HERE'S HOW OFTEN WE WANT YOU TO REPORT BACK TO US AND GIVE US UPDATES.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE OWN THIS INCIDENT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

IT, IT, IT'S YOURS.

SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET THAT REPORTING INFORMATION? AND THEN WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR, UM, REALLY THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION? HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC? YOU MAY CALL ME, SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING BAD, TIM, COME IN AND RUN THIS FOR US.

AND I COME IN AND IN MY THOUGHT I'M SAY, OKAY, I'M GONNA PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE AT 10:00 AM EVERY DAY, BUT REALLY YOUR COMMUNITY MAY WANT A TV INTERVIEW AT 8:00 AM AT 2:00 PM AND AT 6:00 PM YOU GOTTA LET US KNOW WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT YOU HAVE OF THOSE FOLKS.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER PART? DO WE NEED TO TAKE A, A BREAK? DO YOU WANT A BREAK? TIME FOR A BREAK? OKAY.

YES.

BREAK.

I'LL SEE SOME HEAD NOD.

WE'LL TAKE 10 MINUTE BREAK.

10 MINUTES JUST ENOUGH TO WHERE'S THE BACK? THE CLOSEST.

OKAY, WE'RE BACK LIVE.

IT'S CLOSE.

I'LL TURN IT.

NOW THAT I HAVE A CLICKER, I ACTUALLY DO THIS PROFESSIONAL.

LET'S GO.

UH, TIM CHANCE, MAY I SAY A WORD ABOUT RCD CODE ON, UM, EMERGENCIES AND THEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS PLEASE DO.

IF WE HAD TO BRING IN, UM, OUTSIDE STAFF THE AN INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM FOLKS WHO ARE NOT CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER THE CITY STRUCTURE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

SO, UM, OUR CITY CODE, UH, AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR, OR IN THE MAYOR'S ABSENCE, THE VICE MAYOR TO BY PROCLAMATION, TO DECLARE A LOCAL EMERGENCY.

AND IT LISTS A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS WHY.

UM, AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL, BY MAJORITY VOTE, MAY TERMINATE THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION.

UM, AND THE CITY CODE GOES ON TO ALLOW THE MAYOR OR THE VICE MAYOR TO IMPOSE A CURFEW, UM, CLOSE TO PUBLIC ACCESS, ANY PUBLIC BUILDING, STREET OR PUBLIC PLACE, UH, CALL UPON REGULAR OUR AUXILIARY, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, SO IT, IT IS PRETTY LIMITED.

AND THEN IN OUR PROCUREMENT CODE, IF THE MAYOR HAS DECLARED, UH, HAS PROCLAIMED AN EMERGENCY, THE CITY MANAGER, THE PROCUREMENT OFFICER OR THE MAYOR CAN MAKE PURCHASES.

SO, SO WE'RE PRETTY LIMITED.

I MEAN, YOUR EXPERIENCE, DO YOU SEE I MORE DETAIL IN OTHER CITIES? UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE, UM, COUNSELORS BROUGHT UP, WHEN DO WE KNOW WHEN IT'S OVER? YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT ON THAT PRIOR SLIDE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, THE MAYOR SHALL PROCLAIM AN EMERGENCY FOR ONE WEEK AND REVISIT IT.

IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY BROAD.

WHAT WHAT DO YOU TYPICALLY SEE FROM OTHER CITIES? UH, GOOD QUESTION.

A, A, A MIXTURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, AND THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF IT'S, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG A, A DISASTER IS GOING TO GO, UM, FOR THOSE CASES.

WE WILL OFTEN SEE, UM, IF THE MAYOR DECLARES THEN WHEN THINGS HAVE KIND OF GONE BACK STEADY STATE, UM, THEN COME BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING WHERE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL COULD VOTE TO END THAT DECLARATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED WHO CAN PURCHASE DURING AN AN INCIDENT.

CAN THAT BE DELEGATED? AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ONLY THREE POSITIONS IN THE CITY, WELL, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ICS AND IT'S ONLY THE CITY MANAGER, ONLY THE MAYOR, AND ONLY THEN THOSE MAY BE YOUR POLICY GROUP PEOPLE AND NOT NECESSARILY THE LOGISTICS SECTION.

SO CAN THAT BE DELEGATED? AND, AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANCE WASN'T HERE WHEN WE REVISED THAT EMERGENCY, UH, PROVISION OF THE CITY CODE OR EVEN THE PURCHASING POLICY.

SO AS CHANCE IS HERE, I'M HOPING TO WORK WITH HIM TO, UH, CLOSE ANY OF THOSE GAPS.

UM, YEAH, GOOD QUESTIONS.

AND IF I COULD, I THINK WE'RE VERY MUCH RELATED TO THAT, THE SLIDE BEFORE, IF YOU COULD GO BACKWARDS, YOU MENTIONED THIS SLIDE AND ESTABLISHED IN ADVANCE.

AND SO MY QUESTION WAS, HAVE WE DONE THIS? HAVE, DO WE HAVE A DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY IN PLACE AND FULLY DEFINED AS WE SHOULD BE? OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE YET TO DO OR NEED TO DO, OR, SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE, UM, ALREADY AUTHORITIES DELEGATED, UM, TO CITY STAFF, TO THE POLICE CHIEF, TO OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ALLOW 'EM TO EXECUTE A LOT OF THESE FUNCTIONS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DURING A DISASTER.

TYPICALLY, WE WOULD SEE THESE DELEGATIONS OF AUTHORITY

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WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DRAFTED, BUT THERE ARE DRAFTS AVAILABLE AND IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE INCIDENT SPECIFIC.

AND LOOKING AT ALL THOSE FACTORS, THANK YOU.

I I THINK YOU COULD START TO BUILD OUT TEMPLATES, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF HAVE THE, SOME OF THE ROUGH LANGUAGE IN THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THOSE DELEGATIONS.

AND, AND ONE THING THAT I LOOK, UM, ON THIS, YOU KNOW, THE DELEGATION WITH ALREADY, OR A DECLARATION OR PROCLAMATION OF EMERGENCY IS, AND, AND WOULD IT CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTING CODE FOR, UH, THE MAYOR IN THAT DECLARATION TO SAY, AND I DELEGATE PURCHASING AUTHORITY TO WHATEVER POSITIONS.

I, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD NEED TO THINK THROUGH.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE TRICKY PART.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOUR EMERGENCY POLICIES STARTING TO CONFLICT WITH BLUE SKY THINGS, UH, AND REALLY MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE, UM, THOSE ARE ALIGNED.

SO, SO I GUESS MY FINAL QUESTION, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR THIS TOO.

A A LOT OF, UH, AREAS OF, OF LAW, NOT NECESSARILY EMERGENCIES THAT ARE COMMON TO, TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES.

THERE ARE SOME LIKE MODEL, UM, MODEL CODE PROVISIONS, MODEL TEMPLATES.

HA HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR EMERGENCIES? UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY FOR A DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY, A GOOD MODEL WOULD BE GET WITH THE NATIONAL FOREST COOKIE.

THEY DO THIS ALL THE, THEY, THEY'VE GOT ONE FOR THE POCKET FIRE RIGHT NOW, THOSE DELEGATIONS.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME SAMPLES, UH, THAT I CAN SEND YOU GUYS, UH, FROM THE FEMA SIDE, BUT AN ACTUAL IN, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN VETTED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, THE FOREST SERVICE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THOSE.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AS WE JUMP INTO THE NEXT SECTION, THIS WILL GO A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM, AND THAT'S THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND OUT IN THE FIELD, GETTING THE WORK DONE.

BUT NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

SO WHAT IS AN EOC? AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A PHYSICAL LOCATION.

UM, LATELY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VIRTUAL WITH TECHNOLOGY POST COVID.

SO, UH, A PHYSICAL OR VIRTUAL LOCATION WHERE STAFF, STAKEHOLDERS, PARTNERS CAN GATHER TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO AN INCIDENT.

WHAT IS SUPPORT? THAT IS A VERY BROAD TERM ON PURPOSE.

UM, IT'S, IT REALLY IS FOCUSED ON THAT RESPONSE SUPPORT AND COORDINATION.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT NEEDS DO THEY HAVE IN THE FIELD THAT THE EOC CAN HELP FULFILL? SO LET'S LOOK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS ALL PLAYS IN AND HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER.

UM, AND THIS IS VERY DELIBERATE AND, UM, WE'LL START AT THE BOTTOM.

SO YOU SEE RIGHT DOWN THERE, THE, THE ICS COMMAND OPERATIONS, THAT'S YOUR, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTERS, PUBLIC WORKS.

THAT'S THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

AT THE VERY TOP IS THAT POLICY GROUP.

THAT'S YOUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER, THAT'S COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOUR OTHER OFFICIALS AND, AND ELECTEDS THERE.

YOU'LL NOTICE THOSE TWO CIRCLES DON'T TOUCH AND IT'S FOR A REASON.

AND TYPICALLY, AND I WOULD ASK MAYOR, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU DROVE A DUMP TRUCK? NEVER .

EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT HIGHLY TRAINED STAFF THAT DO THAT, RIGHT? SO HOW DO YOU COORDINATE WITH THAT GROUP? HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES AND SUPPORT? YOUR JOB IS NOT NECESSARILY TO BE OUT DIRECTING THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT IN COMMANDER.

SO YOU SEE THE CONNECTION THERE IS OFTEN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE CHANCE AND HIS TEAM OR IF THE COUNTY, IF WE HAVE OUR EOC OPEN, WHERE WE CAN SUPPORT, UM, WE OPERATE THAT SITE AND TO BE ABLE TO FEED THAT INFORMATION UP TO THAT POLICY GROUP.

'CAUSE IF YOU THINK A LOT OF TIMES THE INCIDENT COMMANDER IN THE FIELD MIGHT BE, UH, TOO BUSY TO STOP AND GO HAVE A POLICY MEETING, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INCIDENT IS, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, AN EMERGING INCIDENT, AND IT'S GROWING IN SCALE RAPIDLY, LIKE WE'VE SEEN WITH SOME OF OUR FIRES AND FLOODS, THEY SHOULD BE HANDLING THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THAT'S WHERE THE EOC CAN COME IN AND HELP SUPPORT, UH, AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE POLICY GROUP.

AND I WILL SAY INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM RELI VERY HEAVILY ON LIAISON.

SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE BUBBLES AGAIN, ON THE LAST SIDE, COMMAND AND OPERATIONS IS GONNA HAVE A LIAISON WHO LIAISES WITH THE EOC, WHICH IS COORDINATION SUPPORT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIAISON THAT LIAISES BOTH BETWEEN THE POLICY GROUP AND COMMAND AND OPERATIONS AND POLICY THEMSELVES WILL ALSO HAVE A LIAISON.

AND THAT'LL LIKELY BE EITHER CITY MANAGERS FIGURED OR HER DESIGNEE TO BE THAT LIAISON BETWEEN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THE POLICY GROUP.

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SO WHAT ARE THE SUM OF THE FUNCTIONS, UM, AND DUTIES OF THE EOC? YOU'LL NOTICE THAT FIRST ONE, COLLECTING, ANALYZING, AND SHARING INFORMATION.

THAT IS A BIG, BIG PIECE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEM AND THAT INFORMATION FLOW HERE IN ANOTHER SECTION.

BUT REALLY THE, WE BRING IN PART OF THE EOC IS CALLED THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER, WHERE THAT'S, UM, WHERE WE BRING IN ALL THE PIOS, ALL THE INFORMATION OFFICERS FROM ALL THE IMPACTED JURISDICTIONS, THOSE TEAMS WILL START WORKING TO, UM, NOT ONLY COMPILE AND, AND, UM, COLLECT ALL THE INFORMATION NEEDED FOR PUBLIC MESSAGING.

THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING ON, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHAT TRENDS ARE WE SEEING? ARE THERE DAMAGES OF A FLOODING EVENT THAT, THAT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT WE'RE TRACKING? OR IF WE THINK THIS ROAD IS NOT THAT BAD, BUT IT'S REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO MINE SOME OF THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION TO INCREASE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FOR RESPONDERS.

BUT THEN THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO HAVE THAT ONE UNIFIED VOICE TO SEND INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, CAN BE, UM, VERY CONFUSING AND, AND DETRIMENTAL TO AN EVENT AND FOR THE COMMUNITY IS IF THEY'RE GETTING MULTIPLE SOURCES OF INFORMATION.

AND WE SEE THAT NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, AND AND IT'S, IT'S ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT EVERYONE HAS A CELL PHONE.

EVERYONE'S GOT A CAMERA, EVERYONE IS NOW, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO, YOU WOULD HAVE A-B-C-N-B-C, THEY WOULD SHOW UP WITH CAMERAS AND, AND THAT WAS THE NEWS, RIGHT? WELL, NOW AS A SOCIETY THAT'S CHANGED.

EVERYBODY'S A REPORTER.

SO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT FROM THE OFFICIAL SOURCES IS CORRECT AND IS ACCURATE IS, IS IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TODAY THAN IT EVER HAS BEEN BEFORE.

SO WE ALSO, UM, WE WILL REALLY START LOOKING WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THE INCIDENT COMMAND NOW, BUT WE ALSO DO SOME OF THAT LONG-TERM PLANNING.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS RECOVERY GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER A FLOOD? WE'RE STILL IN THE FLOODING EVENT AND THE FIELD INCIDENT COMMAND TEAM, THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING THE FLOODING RESPONSE, THE EOC, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO LOOK AS WHAT DOES RECOVERY LOOK LIKE WHEN THE WATER RECEDES? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? HOW ARE WE GOING TO RECOVER AND REBUILD FROM THIS? SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME STUFF THAT WE'LL START THAT LONG RANGE STRATEGIC PLANNING, WORKING WITH THE POLICY GROUP TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND START DEVELOPING THOSE PLANS EVEN BEFORE RESPONSE IS ACTUALLY OVER.

THESE STRUCTURES ARE MODULAR TOO.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MODULARITY OF ICS AND BEING ABLE TO EXPAND.

YOU EXPAND YOUR ICS ORG CHART ENOUGH.

AND EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHOSE SOLE FUNCTION IS SHARING INFORMATION OR SHARING RESOURCE NEEDS OR DETERMINING FUTURE NEEDS.

THE TYPE ONE TEAM, RIGHT NOW, THE COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS SOMEONE DEDICATED TO JUST SHARING INFORMATION WITH PARTNERS, SOMEONE JUST DEDICATED TO DETERMINING FUTURE NEEDS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING CURRENTLY.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO SCALE THIS UP AND DOWN TO FIT OUR OWN EOC HERE IN THE CITY OF SEDONA AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO.

WE CAN PULL AN ADDITIONAL STAFF OR WE CAN HAVE IT CENTRALIZED, YOU KNOW, WITH JUST SECTION CHIEFS WITH OTHER PERSONNEL.

CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.

YOU MENTIONED TYPE ONE AND THEN YOU'VE MENTIONED ELSEWHERE TYPE THREE, HOW MANY TYPES ARE THEY AND WHAT, WHAT DO THE TYPES MEAN? SO THERE, THERE'S FIVE TYPES OF INCIDENTS.

AND THIS WAS TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT.

UM, ALEX SCHLUTER GAVE, UH, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS TOO, BUT THERE'S FIVE TYPES AND IT'S KIND OF GOES IN OPPOSITE ORDER.

FIVE IS THE SMALLEST TYPE OF INCIDENT THAT YOU COULD SEE, AND ONE IS TYPICALLY THE MOST COMPLEX INCIDENT.

SO IF WE HAVE A VERY SMALL INCIDENT, ONE TREE ON FIRE OR A NON-INJURY ACCIDENT WITH A VEHICLE THAT'S PROBABLY ITS HIGH FIVE INCIDENT, THE RESPONDING RESOURCES INITIALLY DISPATCH, YOU'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

BUT SOMETHING LARGER LIKE A TYPE TWO OR A TYPE ONE INCIDENT, THOSE ARE COMPLEX AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS THAT COME IN THAT'S BEYOND WHAT LOCAL RESOURCES ARE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR AND MANAGE.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED, WHENEVER YOU START PULLING IN OUTSIDE RESOURCES, THE COMPLEXITY STARTS GOING UP DRASTICALLY.

AND THAT'S HOW WE GET TO TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO INCIDENTS.

YEAH, IT, IT, IT MAKES NOT A LOT OF SENSE, BUT AS THE NUMBERS GO DOWN, THE COMPLEXITY AND SEVERITY GOES UP.

WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SETTING UP AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER OR PULLING IN ADDITIONAL STAFF, TYPICALLY TYPE THREE, THAT MIDDLE LEVEL IS THE LEVEL THAT THAT'S INITIALLY STARTED AT.

SO THE POCKET FIRE, WHEN THAT STARTED TO GROW, INITIALLY THERE WAS A TYPE THREE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM CALLED, THAT'S KIND OF THE BASE LEVEL

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FOR THIS IS BEYOND WHAT LOCAL RESOURCES ARE ABLE TO MANAGE.

AND THEN FROM TYPE THREE GOES THROUGH A COMPLEX INCIDENT AND A LITTLE BIT, UM, NOT TO GO TOO FAR DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, BUT THE, THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS, UM, YOU KNOW, A TYPE THREE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM IS GOING TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE.

THERE MAY BE, UH, YOU KNOW, 20 PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO THAT, AND THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ORDER A CERTAIN NUMBER OR TYPE OF RESOURCES WHERE A COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM, I THINK THE ONE WE HAVE NOW IS, I REMEMBER ABOUT 120 PEOPLE ON THAT TEAM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT WIDER, A RANGE OF RESOURCE LIKE THE BIG HEAVY AIRCRAFT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S ALSO A LOT TO DO WITH RESOURCE AVAILABILITY AND WHAT WE, WHAT RESOURCES WE CAN BRING IN.

AND WHO IS THAT THAT SAYS THIS NEEDS TO BE A TYPE THREE, TYPE ONE? YOU KNOW, USUALLY THAT'S A DECISION MADE AT THE, UM, AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR LEVEL.

UH, SO WITH THE FOREST, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND I SAY IT, IT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE FOREST SUPERVISOR'S FINAL CALL, BUT THAT INFORMATION IS NOT MADE IN A VACUUM.

YOU KNOW, HE'S RELYING A LOT OF HIS WILDLAND PERSONNEL, UH, WHO ARE OUT THERE, THE DISTRICT RANGERS.

UM, SO FOR YOU GUYS IT WOULD BE, UH, VERY MUCH THE SAME THING.

IT, IT MAY BE THE MAYOR'S FINAL DECISION TO SAY, WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE IN CONSULTATION WITH POLICE, WITH FIRE, WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

SO USUALLY THAT AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR, A LOT OF TIMES YOU LOOK TO RIGHT SIZE THE INCIDENT TO WHAT RESOURCES DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED FOR THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE MANAGING.

WE COULD HAVE A SMALL INCIDENT LIKE, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE FIRE, WHICH WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TYPE THREE OR TYPE FOUR INCIDENT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, WELL, THAT'S A TYPE ONE INCIDENT.

IT'S SUPER COMPLEX, WE NEED A MILLION RESOURCES ON IT, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT THE REALITIES OF THE SITUATION.

SO WE LOOK TO RIGHTSIZE OUR NEEDS AND GROW GRADUALLY TO ADDRESS THE INCIDENT.

SO CURRENTLY, HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM SPD AND SFD ARE WORKING ON THE POCKET FIRE CHIEF? DO YOU, HOW MANY FOLKS DO YOU HAVE UP THERE? MAYBE AARON KNOWS AARON COULD ANSWER FOR SPD, BUT GO AHEAD, ED.

FOR, FOR SEDONA FIRE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT, UH, ONE OF OUR BATTALION CHIEFS, TODD MIRANDA, HE'S ON TEAM TWO AND HE'S CURRENTLY IN THE SAFETY OFFICER ROLE.

UH, WE'VE GOT ONE OF OUR NEW FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE STOLE FROM THE GREEN SIDE, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE FOREST .

AND, UH, GREEN SIDE, SHE'S A MEDICAL UNIT LEADER ON THE FIRE.

AND THEN WE HAVE A FOUR PERSON CREW UP ON TOP, AND THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN DISPATCHED AS A REM UNIT OR REMS UNIT, WHICH IS RAPID EXTRICATION MODULE.

AND WHAT IT IS, IT'S A, UH, IT'S A MODULE OF MADE UP OF PARAMEDICS TECHNICAL RESCUE FOLKS AND SOME, SOME, UH, SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT.

AND THEIR JOB ISN'T TO FIGHT THE FIRE, IT'S TO RAPIDLY EXTRICATE THE INJURED.

AND, UH, IT'S A, A NEWER CONCEPT, UH, OVER THE PAST PROBABLY DECADE.

AND, UH, IT, IT'S ALREADY ACROSS THE NATION ATTRIBUTED BEEN ATTRIBUTED TO SAVING LIVES BECAUSE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, TRAVIS ALLUDED TO LAST NIGHT, THE, THE, THE DESIRES TO GET FOLKS OUT WITHIN AN HOUR.

AND WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND SO THAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ASSIGNED.

BUT WE'VE GOT, UH, WE JUST HAD A COUPLE RETIRE, BUT WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, ON THE, THE TEAM ONE AND TEAM TWO, TWO OF THE SOUTHWEST REGION, UH, COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS. UM, OUR ASSISTANT CHIEF COYLE, HE'S AN IC TRAINEE.

UH, AND THEN LIKE I SAID, UH, TODD MIRANDAS ON THE OTHER TEAM AND HE'S SOMEHOW BECOME A JACK OF ALL, UH, TO, TO TIM'S POINT EARLIER, UH, HE'S A BATTALION CHIEF HERE, MANAGES A SHIFT, BUT HE CAN GO OUT AS A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR SUPERVISOR, A SAFETY OFFICER, A MEDICAL UNIT LEADER.

HE'S JUST, IT'S HIS BAG.

HE LOVES IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUT.

DO YOU GET REIMBURSED FOR THE COSTS OF WE DO.

WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A COOPERATIVE RATE AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE AND TO OVER SIMPLIFY IT, UM, WE BUDGET ANNUALLY 500,000 IN REVENUE, UH, AS A, ESSENTIALLY AN ENTERPRISE FUND FROM WILDLAND FIREFIGHTING.

AND IT, WE DON'T TIE IT TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, IT'S, IT, IT'LL GO INTO CAPITAL BECAUSE IT COULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND ONE YEAR, IT COULD BE 2.2 MILLION ANOTHER YEAR.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SEASON.

BUT WITH THIS COOPERATIVE RATE AGREEMENT, WHAT IT DOES IS TO OVERSIMPLIFY IT, EACH THING THAT WE SEND OUT, WHETHER IT'S A TRUCK, A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, A PUMP, UH, HAS A, A RENTAL FEE ATTACHED TO IT AND AN HOURLY OR DAILY RATE.

AND THEN THEY ALSO COVER THE COSTS OF WAGES FOR THE EMPLOYEE THAT'S OUT AND ANY OVERTIME.

AND THEN THEY ALSO COVER THE COST OF BACK FILLING THEIR POSITION HERE.

SO WE HAVE IT'S COST NEUTRAL FOR EMPLOYEE COSTS.

WE MAKE MONEY ON OUR EQUIPMENT AND IT GETS OUR FOLKS EXPERIENCE

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AT BIG FIRES OUTSIDE OF TOWN BEFORE THEY GOTTA DEAL WITH A BIG FIRE HERE.

AND IT ENSURES THAT OUR TAXPAYERS, LIKE, WE DON'T SEND OUT, WE DON'T CLOSE DOWN A STATION AND SEND OUT, SEND OUT THOSE TRUCKS FOR TWO WEEKS.

WE BACKFILL IT AND ALL THE COSTS ARE COVERED.

SO THAT'S HOW THE COOPERATIVE RATE AGREEMENT WORKS.

THANK YOU, ED.

THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

AARON, HOW ABOUT SPD? OKAY, THANKS.

WE HAD ABOUT A DOZEN ROTATING INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND.

UM, THE EOC WAS STAFFED WITH MINIMALLY FOUR ALL WEEKEND, EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR 10 TO, WELL, BETWEEN EIGHT HOUR TO 12 HOUR SHIFTS WHEN IT STARTED.

IT INCLUDED CHANCE AND THEN COMMAND STAFF, IT ALSO INCLUDED DISPATCH AND THEN OPERATIONS FOR PATROL INCLUDED, UH, UM, SOME OFFICERS AS WELL AS SOME COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS THAT WENT OUT TO ACTUAL TRAILHEADS TO HELP, UM, GUIDE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE OUT THERE OFF THE TRAILHEADS ONCE THEY WERE CLOSED AND STUFF.

SO AT THIS TIME, IT'S SET UP AS CHANCE SAID.

SO WE'RE NOT IN FULL OPERATIONS.

UM, HOWEVER IT IS BEING MONITORED AND RUN STILL BY, UM, CHANCE AS WELL AS COMMAND STAFF GOING IN TO SUPPORT CHANCE CHECKING TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IF IT, IF HE'S, YOU KNOW, NEEDED TO REOPEN IT.

AND CURRENTLY AS WELL, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONNEL ASSIGNED OUTSIDE OF JURISDICTION OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SEDONA, WE ARE STILL ASSISTING WITH OFFICERS, UM, ENFORCING THE FOREST CLOSURE IN THE AREAS AND THE, AND THE TRAILS AND THE PARKS THAT ARE SHUT DOWN, UM, INSIDE CITY LIMITS.

SO WE'VE BEEN ASSISTING THE FOREST SERVICE WITH THAT.

AND I CONTINUE TO SERVE AS A LIAISON TO THE COMPLEX INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM.

I'VE BEEN AT ALL THE MORNING BRIEFINGS.

THEY CALL ME, THEY GIVE ME AN UPDATE AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM THAT WAY.

AND, AND TIM OR, OR TEAM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I I WANT TO PAINT A PICTURE 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S HELPED MY BOARD UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

UM, ALL THIS IS, ALL, THIS IS A COMPLEX SYSTEM THAT REALLY WORKS AND IT REALLY WORKS BEST IF YOU DO THE FRONT END WORK WITH RELATIONSHIPS.

NOW, UM, TO TRY TO PAINT A PICTURE, AARON MENTIONED THAT STAFF OVER THE WEEKEND WAS DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.

THERE'S PROBABLY SOME OVERTIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT OR SOME FLEX TIME OR SOMETHING TO MANAGE THAT.

IT WAS SHORT DURATION.

THE CITY HAS THE CAPACITY TO ABSORB, UM, THIS FIRE STARTED AND RE AND AT THIS DAY REMAINS IN THE FOREST JURISDICTION, UM, TO, TO PAINT A PICTURE.

UM, WE GET A START, UH, BEHIND AMBI AND IT'S TRANSIENT CAMPSITE AND THE WINDS ARE LINED UP AND IT RUSHES UP THE HILL AND IT TAKES OUT UPTOWN, YOU KNOW, OR, OR A GOOD PORTION OF UPTOWN.

UM, THEN IT'S GONNA GO INTO THE FOREST.

WELL, SAME THING WILL OCCUR.

THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

THE FOREST WILL TAKE IT OVER.

A TEAM WILL COME IN AND MANAGE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FOREST, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WEEK OR TWO OF, OF RESIDENTS ISSUES, UM, UTILITY ISSUES, ROAD ISSUES, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT PATROLS FOR LOOTERS AND ALL THAT WILL KIND OF FALL INTO THE CITY OR THE DISTRICT'S HANDS.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE DO A DECLARATION OF NEED OR A DECLARATION OF.

UH, AND AND WHAT THAT WILL DO IS IT, IT ESSENTIALLY PASSES, PASSES THE DINNER CHECK TO DAD.

AND SO, UM, IT OPENS UP DOORS AND CORRECT ME OR CLARIFY, BUT UH, TO EXPECT SEDONA PD TO UP STAFF, ALL OF THOSE PATROLS FOR LOOTING AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF, OR CITY PUBLIC WORKS TO MANAGE ALL THOSE.

UM, UNISOURCE CAN BE OVERWHELMED.

THEY'RE MANAGING WATER PIPE BRAKES AND, AND GAS LINE BRAKES AND ALL THAT STUFF.

UM, THE FIRE DISTRICT'S GONNA BE GOING AROUND 24 7 PUTTING OUT HOTSPOTS IN HOUSES.

UM, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON OUR OWN.

WE'D BRING IN RESOURCES, PD WOULD PROBABLY DECLARATION OF NEED, BUT THEN, THEN SHIFT THE FUNDING SO THAT COUNTY RESOURCES AND PRE-ESTABLISHED COOPERATORS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD COME DOWN AND HELP SEDONA PD PUBLIC WORKS FROM SURROUNDING AGENCIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE.

AND, AND IT'S DIFFICULT WITH, WITH THE SHIFTING OF PERSONNEL AND ELECTEDS TO, TO KEEP THIS FLOW OF INFORMATION INTACT.

AND THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS, IS ALL THE MAJOR FIRES WE'VE HAD IN DISTRICT IN THE PAST 20 YEARS STARTED AND LEPT INTO THE FOREST FOR THE MOST PART.

SO WE'VE NEVER HAD, THANKFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL NEVER HAVE AN INSTANCE WHERE A LARGE EVENT STARTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND MOVES TO THE FOREST.

BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THIS WILL COME INTO PLAY BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD QUICKLY STRIP ANY CONTINGENCY BUDGETS, EITHER THE CITY OR THE DISTRICT HAVE TO MANAGE THOSE.

SO IF I CAN, UH, TOUCH ON THAT, FIRES ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT BEAST.

UM, THEY TYPICALLY HAVE A WAY TO, TO GO FOR THE FIRE MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE GRANT AND FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT EXIST, EVEN THOUGH WE OPERATE UNDER AN ALL HAZARDS MODEL, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A

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FLOOD, EARTHQUAKE, WHATEVER, UM, FIRES JUST, THEY, THEY HAVE A QUICKER CONDUIT TO, TO SEE REIMBURSEMENT AND SEE THOSE DOLLARS.

IF WE HAVE THE SAME SCENARIO BUT CHANGE IT TO A FLOOD OR INTO AN EARTHQUAKE, UM, THE DECLARATION AND THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS WILL TAKE TIME.

AND TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THAT, WE HAVE THE NOVA GETIN EVENT BACK, WHAT, 20 19, 20 18 ISH.

AND, UM, THE OFFICE THEN, 'CAUSE I WASN'T WITH THE OFFICE, BUT THEY HAD SUBMITTED DECLARATION, DID REIMBURSEMENT, I JUST THIS YEAR CLOSED IT OUT AND GOT REIMBURSEMENT.

WOW.

UM, NOW THE STATE IS WORKING ON PROCESSES TO TO, TO FIX THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE SAW THE SAME THING WITH COVID AND THE COVID RELIEF DOLLARS AND THAT WAS A FEDERAL DECLARATION.

SAME THING.

THEY JUST CAME, UM, THIS YEAR OR END OF LAST YEAR.

SO IT IS STILL A LENGTHY PROCESS AND YOU STILL WILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT HIT FINANCIALLY.

UM, BUT WE ARE IN, IT'LL COME EVENTUALLY.

WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT.

I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF EMAILS, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT I HAD TO SIGN OFF ON FOR 2019 REIMBURSEMENT.

AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO TO BE COMFORTABLE BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND BEING OKAY WITH THAT.

UM, YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH, THAT REIMBURSEMENT PART, IT JUST, AGAIN, TO GO DOWN TO SMALL RABBIT HOLE YEARS, IT, IT'S NOT QUICK.

UH, THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB THAT WE'VE KIND OF HAVE SEEN, UM, IS IT'LL TAKE ABOUT THREE, LIKE THREE TO FIVE YEARS AND REIMBURSEMENT'S USUALLY AT 75%.

UH, SOME OF THAT CAN BE CHANGED THROUGH PRESIDENTIAL ORDER, UH, UP TO 90% AND IN SOME CASES EVEN A HUNDRED, VERY, VERY RARE.

UH, BUT GOOD RULE OF THUMB IS THREE TO FIVE YEARS TO GET 75% BACK.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR COUNCIL AND YOUR POLICY GROUPS TO REALLY BE, UH, TRACKING WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE, UH, AND TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU SHOULD START DECLARING.

UM, AND, AND, UM, THAT'S WHY YOU, YOU'LL HAVE THOSE TRAINED FINANCE, UH, FOLKS THERE BECAUSE THEY WILL START TRACKING THE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS.

UM, IT CAN GET AS, UM, NUANCED AS A 10 WHEEL DUMP TRUCK IS NOT A REIMBURSABLE ASSET, BUT SIX WHEEL DUMP TRUCKS ARE.

AND SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, IF I'VE GOT A DISASTER AND I'M, I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT YOU KNOW, I CAN ORDER ONE 10 WHEEL DUMP TRUCK AND JUST DECIDE, YOU KNOW, AS A JURISDICTION, WELL I'M JUST GONNA EAT THE COST BECAUSE I NEED THE BIGGER CAPACITY.

OR I WILL JUST ORDER TWO SMALLER ONES AND ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING.

WELL NOW I'M PAYING TWO PEOPLE, TWO TRUCKS.

IT'S USUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO RUN TWO SMALLER TRUCKS THAN ONE BIG, BUT THE RULES SAY THAT THOSE TWO ARE REIMBURSABLE.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA TRACK EARLY AND OFTEN, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE EVEN IN THE RES THE RESPONSE PHASE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT LONG-TERM RECOVERY DOLLARS COULD BE.

WELL, AND TIM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD IT TODAY, BUT WHAT ARE THEY CLOCKING THE DAILY COST OF THIS FIRE AT APPROXIMATELY? UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD, BUT, UH, KIND OF AT A RULE OF THUMB, WHEN YOU BRING IN A TYPE ONE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM, IT'S USUALLY A MILLION DOLLARS A DAY IS, UH, A ROUGH ESTIMATE.

SO SEDONA FIRE, NOT PAYING ANY OF OUR BILLS COULD COVER IT FOR ABOUT 26 DAYS .

SO THAT'S DECLARATION DECLARATIONS ARE IMPORTANT.

ALRIGHT, JUMPING BACK IN ON THE, SOME OF THE OTHER BENEFITS OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, AND I, I, WE'VE COVERED THE FIRST TWO, BUT INFORMATION VALIDATION, UH, WE, WE HIGHLIGHTED THAT JUST A MINUTE AGO, BUT, UH, THIS IS WHERE, UM, I LOVE MY COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS TEAM BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOME REALLY SMART YOUNGER THAN ME FOLKS THAT KNOW SOCIAL MEDIA AND GET IN THERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW BAD IS BAD AND OFTEN DISPEL THE RUMOR MILL.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, AND I, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HOSTED A, UH, A TABLETOP EXERCISE, UM, OVER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH ALL OF THE REGIONAL PIOS, CITY OF SEDONA, COCONINO COUNTY.

UH, WE BROUGHT A LOT OF FOLKS IN AND WE GAVE THEM A SCENARIO OF OAK CREEK FLOODING AND ALL WE DID, ALL WE FOCUSED ON, WE DIDN'T WORRY ABOUT HOW TO CLEAR THE ROADS, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC MESSAGING.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, UH, KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THERE AND WE STARTED GIVING THEM, UM, INJECTS OF, HEY, SOMEONE JUST POSTED ONLINE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SAW WHAT THEY THOUGHT WERE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE BODIES FLOATING DOWN THE WATER AND THEY PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND JUST, YOU KNOW, DEATH, DESTRUCTION IN MAYHEM.

BUT IN REALITY WHAT THEY SAW FLOATING DOWN THE WATER WAS DEBRIS, TREES, STICKS AND STUFF.

THAT WAS JUST EVERYTHING COVERED IN MUD.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU AS AN EOC VALIDATE INFORMATION YOU'RE HEARING AND MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION THAT WE AS A RESPONSE ENTITY ARE SENDING OUT IS FACTUAL.

WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO HAVE AS UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION

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SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE THE EOC REALLY COMES IN.

WE TALKED ABOUT RESOURCE IDENTIFICATION, ALLOCATION AND DECONFLICTION.

YOU KNOW, IF THE FIELD CREWS CALL US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT FLOODING, WE NEED WATER PUMPS, WELL THEN WE'VE GOT A ROLODEX OR A PHONE BOOK AND I'M, I'M TELLING MY AGE HERE WITH WHAT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE, BUT WE KNOW WHO TO CALL THAT'S GOT THAT STUFF, RIGHT? WE CAN SAY, TIM, WHAT'S A ROLODEX CHANCE? NO .

SO SOMETHING YOU USE WHEN THERE'S NO POWER, YES, SIR.

YOU KNOW, IT, IT, AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR LOGISTICS TEAM IN AN, IN AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER REALLY COMES INTO PLAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE PREEXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE, THE EQUIPMENT RENTAL COMPANIES AROUND TOWN TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT INVENTORY AND WHAT STOCK IS AROUND.

AND IF I DON'T HAVE IT, WHO CAN I CALL? AND IS IT YAVAPAI COUNTY? IS IT NAVAJO COUNTY? IS IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

AND REALLY START, UM, LEVERAGING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TO GET RESOURCES THAT WE NEED.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, CONTRACTS OR PRE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH LOTS OF VENDORS FOR, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF LOCAL RESOURCES, SIX WHEEL OR 10 WHEEL DUMP TRUCKS.

I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT ONE.

DO THOSE, WOULD THOSE TAKE PRIORITY THOUGH? WHAT, I MEAN IF THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES AROUND AND WE HAVE A REGIONAL EVENT, I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT GET SPLIT UP RESOURCE WISE? I'M SURE THAT THOSE COMPANIES THAT HAVE TRUCKS TO LET AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH US, BUT ALSO WITH COTTONWOOD AND ALSO WITH CAMP VERDE.

SO I'LL LET ONE OF THESE GUYS ANSWER THAT.

PROBABLY HAVING DONE LOGISTICS, I JUST TO YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

SO , I NO, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY, UM, SERVED IN THAT ROLE IN A, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO IF THERE'S MULTIPLE ORDERS COMING INTO THE SAME, UH, PRIVATE VENDOR.

YEAH, SO I, I WILL TELL YOU AGAIN, WHAT'S THE CLASSIC EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ANSWER? IT DEPENDS.

UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE EOC COMES IN FOR DECONFLICTION AND, AND IT CAN GET US SO NUANCED AS HOW IS THAT CONTRACT WRITTEN? YOU KNOW, MOST JURISDICTIONS HAVE THOSE ON-CALL SERVICES CONTRACTS, BUT IS THERE A CLAUSE OR A PROVISION THAT SAYS WE GET FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL? MAYBE SOME DO, MAYBE SOME DON'T.

MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NEEDED.

BUT, UM, AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE SEEN IN FLAGSTAFF THAT WE THANKFULLY HAVE NOT HAD TO USE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE START TALKING TO UM, A LOT OF PLACES LIKE, HEY, IF YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE THIS HIGH SCHOOL OR THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL OR THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA TAKE EVERYBODY? AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, WE'LL JUST GO TO THE SKYDOME.

OKAY, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE SKYDOME? SO NOW ARE FOUR SCHOOLS ALL GONNA SHOW UP TO THE SKYDOME EXPECTING THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO OPEN THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT COORDINATION LOOK LIKE? SO THAT'S KEY RELATIONSHIP PIECE WHERE, WHO HOLDS THOSE CONTRACTS? IS IT YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT OR IS IT PUBLIC WORKS FOR THAT KIND OF FOR EQUIPMENT FOR EXAMPLE.

AND ARE THOSE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, IS YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TALKING TO MINE, TALKING TO ATHLETES? SO WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WHO WE'RE TALKING TO AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

UM, AND THEN I THINK IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VENDORS.

YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS BAD, HOW, WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON HAND? YOU KNOW, I NEED YOU FOR UH, YOU KNOW, HEAVY EQUIPMENT SERVICES, BUT HOW MANY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND OPERATORS CAN YOU REASONABLY GET? SO DO I NEED TO THEN POTENTIALLY ADD IN ANOTHER ON-CALL VENDOR FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE? SO IF I COULD ALSO THROW IN THERE, UM, I DON'T THINK WE GO INTO IT TODAY, BUT THERE IS THE KIND OF THE EXTRA SCALE WHERE WE GO TO THE BIGGER ONE, UM, IS AREA OF COMMAND.

AND SO LIKE I I THINK BACK TO UM, LIKE 2021, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE RAFAEL, WE ALSO HAD THE BACKBONE.

AND SO MAYBE WE, WE SEE A SIMILAR SCENARIO WHERE, YOU KNOW, CAMP VERDE'S THREATENED, WE HAVE SEDONA THREATENED AND THERE IS THAT, THAT CONFLICT.

MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY, THEY AMPLIFY IT AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE MAKING THOSE DETERMINATIONS AT A LARGER PICTURE, UM, TO FIGURE OUT WHO NEEDS WHAT RESOURCE AND HOW TO DO THAT SO QUESTION FOR CHANCE.

HAVE YOU HAD A, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OUR CONTRACTS YET? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT IN THE POSITION THAT LONG, SO, SO I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GO LINE BY LINE AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A VERY FIRM TEAM BEHIND US AND SUPPORTING US.

AND IF WE DO NEED A RESOURCE, WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET IT.

I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY, UM, TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED OR CHANGED YET.

IT'S ON YOUR TO-DO LIST, THOUGH.

IT IS.

AND, AND I THINK ONE OTHER AVENUE TO, TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY SIGNED ONTO IS THE ARIZONA MUTUAL AID

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COMPACT.

UM, YOU KNOW, A ZAC IS A, IS A GREAT AGREEMENT FOR JUST THAT.

AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN LEVERAGE THE HIGHER REACH OF THE STATE.

SO, AND I KEEP USING DUMP TRUCKS, BUT HEY, YOU GUYS NEED SNOWBLOWERS, RIGHT? WE CAN PUT IT OUT AND SAY, I NEED A HUNDRED SNOWBLOWERS.

WILL WE JUST SEND THAT UP TO DEMA? BECAUSE DEMA IS GONNA BE, WHICH IS THE, EXCUSE ME, THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MILITARY AFFAIRS, THE STATE LEVEL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

SO THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE A STATE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.

SO WE SEND A RESOURCE THAT WE CAN'T FILL FOR A HUNDRED SNOWBLOWERS.

THEY WILL THEN TAKE THAT REQUEST AND SEND THAT OUT STATEWIDE.

SOMETIMES REGIONWIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO OTHER STATES.

THEN THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME CONTRACTS.

AND SO FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, DISASTER SERVICES, WHICH KINDA LETS US LEVERAGE THEIR REGION, THEIR RELATIONSHIPS AS WELL.

SO WE'RE NOT HAVE, WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH HAVING TO DECONFLICT EVERYTHING ON OUR OWN.

IF IT, WE, IF WE CAN, GREAT.

BUT IF WE SIMPLY NEED MORE, THAT'S, WE GO TO THAT NEXT HIGHER LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT.

AND I WILL SAY TOO, THESE INCIDENT COMMANDERS, WHEN THERE'S THESE RESOURCE DECONFLICTION NEEDS, THEY DO MEET WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY TRY TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOK AT, THEY DO LOOK AT THE VALUES AT RISK.

AND THERE WAS, YESTERDAY WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION ON THE VALUES AT RISK THAT WE HAVE IN OUR AREA, AROUND OUR AREA.

AND THERE'S A LOT TO BE PROTECTED HERE, RIGHT? SO LIKE WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY, WITH GREAT VALUES AT RISK COMES GREAT RESOURCES.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY LOOK AT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THEY TRY TO DECONFLICT AND THEY TRY TO PUT IT WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE MOST NEEDED.

SO HOW DO YOU GUYS HELP THE EOC? IT DEPENDS.

, YOU'RE LEARNING.

GOOD LUCK.

HEY, THANK YOU ALL.

GOODNIGHT, MR. JOB IS DONE.

BUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE DOING THE WORK HAVE THE AUTHORITY FROM THE POLICY GROUP, FROM YOU ALL TO DO THAT WORK.

UM, WE GO BACK TO THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY.

WHO'S GONNA BE YOUR EOC DIRECTOR? AND DO THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY AUTHORITY TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE? LIKE CHANCE MENTIONED, A LOT OF THAT CAN BE, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSIGNED THROUGH JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR A POLICE CHIEF IS TO COORDINATE ALL PUBLIC SAFETY, CRIME SUPPRESSION, THAT STUFF THAT'S ALREADY IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION AS AS DONE, BUT CHANCES ON A VACATION.

AND YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO RUN AN EOC AND YOU CALL ASHLEY, WELL, SHE'S FROM AVA PIKE COUNTY, BUT YOU WANT HER TO COME RUN A LOCAL EVENT EOC FOR YOU.

DOES SHE HAVE THE AUTHORITY FROM YOU AS COUNSEL TO DO THAT? SO DO YOU NEED TO DO A DELEGATION TO HER THAT SAYS, YEAH, COME ON IN.

WE WANT YOU TO WORK FOR US AND, AND GIVE HER THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN AN OUTSIDE TEAM.

WHAT KIND OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, WHAT KIND OF UPDATE REQUIREMENTS, UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE? SO AT COCONINO COUNTY RIGHT NOW, WITH THE INCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, MY REQUIREMENTS AS THE EOC MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY IS, UH, TYPICALLY TWICE A DAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL SEND INFORMATION TO MY POLICY GROUP IN THE MORNING AND IN THE EVENING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT OCCURS BETWEEN THOSE TIMES, I CAN ALWAYS FORWARD THAT AS WELL.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE CADENCE THAT, THAT THEY EXPECT.

SO THEN LOOKING AT YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE, UH, INFORMED OF? WHAT DECISIONS DO YOU NEED TO TO KNOW ABOUT? IS THERE A DOLLAR THRESHOLD? IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING THAT COSTS MORE THAN $25,000 PER PURCHASE, PLEASE TELL US AND RUN IT BY US.

ANYTHING LESS, GO FORTH AND CONQUER.

RIGHT? AND AGAIN, THOSE FISCAL ISSUES, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE? BUT THEN WHAT IS THE DESIRED END STATE? WHAT TIME DO YOU WANT ME AT STATE FARM STADIUM? OKAY, THE FINAL LITTLE BIT, AND WE WANT TO COMBINE THE LAST TWO, AND I THINK THIS IS A, A KEY PIECE, UM, WORKING WITH THE MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION GROUPS AND THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEMS. AGAIN, THERE IS NO TEST AFTER THIS, DON'T WORRY.

BUT LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THE POLICY WORKS, HOW THE, UM, THE SENIOR OFFICIALS, HOW YOU GUYS WORK WITHIN THAT INFORMATION FLOW.

SO HERE'S A LOT.

WHAT FEMA SAYS SHOULD BE ALL OF YOUR ROLES DURING A DISASTER.

WRITE ALL THESE DOWN.

I, WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THREE.

UH, REALLY I THINK THEY'RE THE, THE TOP ONES.

THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT, YOU GUYS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

DECLARING DISASTERS, CITIZEN SAFETY, ALL THAT STUFF.

THEY'RE ALL VERY IMPORTANT.

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IF THERE IS A NEED TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE FROM, SAY, THE STATE AGENTS FROM A STATE LEVEL AGENCY, THEN WORKING WITH THE EOC TO, UH, TO GET THAT ASSISTANCE.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE STATE USUALLY WILL SEND FOR A SIGNIFICANT EVENT OR, OR ANYTIME WE REQUEST, THEY WILL SEND ONE OF THEIR, UM, REGIONAL OFFICER OR REGIONAL STAFF TO US.

SO THERE'S, UM, A, A FRIEND OF OURS WHO WORKS IN THE NORTH REGION, UM, AND, AND DUSTIN, WHEN, WHEN WE CALL HIM, HE SAID, I WILL BE THERE.

AND HE USUALLY COMES AND SITS IN THE EOC AND IS THE LIAISON BETWEEN US AND THE STATE.

SO HE'S ABLE TO LEVERAGE THOSE STATE RESOURCES FOR US.

USUALLY ONCE THE POLICY GROUP SAYS, YEAH, WE NEED TO START BRINGING THAT IN.

AND THEN ALL THINGS FEMA, THEY LIKE TO TELL US THE SAME THING AND THEN PUT PICTURES WITH IT.

SO YOU GUYS ARE THE POLICY GROUP.

YOU ARE THAT POLICY LEVEL.

UM, SET THE END STATE AND THEN ALLOW THOSE FOLKS, THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT, THAT WORK IN THE CITY TO CARRY OUT AND EXECUTE, UM, THE OBJECTIVES THAT YOU'VE SET.

SOMETIMES IF WE HAVE, UM, A CROSS JURISDICTIONAL INCIDENT, WHICH IS VERY LIKELY DOWN HERE, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT EIGHT, WHEN THE POLICY GROUP EXTENDS BEYOND JUST THE COUNCIL, NOW WE HAVE MEMBERS OF BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS FROM, UH, COCONINO, YAVAPAI, YOU KNOW, OR FEDERAL PARTNERS THAT COME IN.

THAT'S THAT MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE MAC GROUP.

IT'S JUST KIND OF AN EXPANDED POLICY GROUP WHERE YOU GUYS START WORKING TOGETHER TO DETERMINE THOSE REGIONAL OBJECTIVES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S COMPRISED THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS, SENIOR DIVISION, UH, DECISION MAKERS, PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERTS, HIGH LEVEL SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A MAJOR FLOODING EVENT ON OUR POLICY GROUPS, WHEN WE'VE HAD THOSE IN 2022, WE HAD IN OUR POLICY GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HYDROLOGIST WHO REALLY UNDERSTOOD FLOODING CHANNELS AND THAT KINDS OF THINGS TO REALLY GIVE US THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE WELL-INFORMED DECISIONS.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE NEED YOU TO HELP US SET THOSE PRIORITIES AGAIN, TO FOCUS ON LIFE SAFETY, UH, PROTECTING THE PROPERTY ENVIRONMENT, STABILIZING THE INCIDENT, BUT THEN ALSO YOU GUYS PLAY A VERY UNIQUE ROLE IN REPRESENTING THE POLITICAL, ECONOMIC AND LEGAL CONCERNS FOR THE JURISDICTION, RIGHT? UM, EXAMPLE BEING THE, UM, FOR US, WE HAD THE, THE DRAGON BRAVO AND WHITE STATES FIRES ON THE NORTH RAM LAST YEAR.

SO, UM, I WOULD SAY THE DRAGON BRAVO FIRE WAS THE LARGEST FIRE IN COO COUNTY HISTORY, BURNED ZERO ACRES OF NON-FEDERAL LAND.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE IMPACTS LIKE WE DID WITH TUNNEL AND PIPELINE THAT WERE A FRACTION OF THOSE SIZES WHERE WE LOST DOZENS OF HOMES, RIGHT? SO WHAT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY IN A FIRE THAT BURNS ON FEDERAL LANDS? YOU KNOW, AND VERY SIMILAR DOWN HERE, WHAT WOULD, WHAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR A FIRE CURRENTLY BURNING ON FEDERAL LAND? WE'VE SEEN A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE THINGS AS THE GRAND CANYON IS CLOSED, THAT, THAT CREATES INTERNATIONAL RIPPLES.

SO, UM, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT KEY ROLE FOR THE POLICY GROUP, IS TO REALLY ADVOCATE AT THAT POLITICAL LEVEL FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL SUPPORT AND THROUGH YOUR NORMAL ADVOCACY AND LOBBYING EFFORTS, UM, AS WELL AS FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMIC EFFORTS OF THE REGION.

ALRIGHT? WHAT IS THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEM? THE SYSTEM IS SIMPLY THE FLOW OF INFORMATION AND HOW THAT INFORMATION FLOWS, UM, IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER THROUGH A DISASTER.

SO YOU SEE, THERE'S, UM, YOUR ROLE IN HERE, I I WILL SAY, UM, IS TO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU, WE WANT YOU TO BE, UH, OFTEN THE FACE OF AN INCIDENT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PHONE CALLS HAVE YOU GUYS RECEIVED ALREADY INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THE FIRE, RIGHT? BUT DO YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS? AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT PART IS TO REMEMBER, NO, WE DON'T, BUT WHO DOES? HOW CAN WE,

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HOW CAN WE GET THE COMMUNITY THOSE ANSWERS THROUGH YOU.

AND, AND THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE, THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER, THAT GROUP OF PIOS, THEY'RE GONNA BE THE ONES AGAIN, THAT ARE PULLING ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER, VALIDATING IT, MAKING SURE IT'S FACTUAL SO WE CAN GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION AND THE TALKING POINTS THAT YOU NEED TO ANSWER THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONS WHEN THE MEDIA SHOWS UP.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT.

WELL, I'LL ALSO, IT MAKES YOUR JOB A LOT EASIER BECAUSE THE EXPERTS ARE OUT THERE DOING THE WORK.

THEY'RE POSTING THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT ALL YOU'VE GOTTA DO IS JUST GO SHARE IT, RIGHT? UM, BUT IT REALLY MAKES SURE, BACK IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHERE EVERYONE IS, UM, IS A NEWS CORRESPONDENT WITH THEIR PHONES, WHEN PEOPLE START LOOKING AT, UM, MESSAGING WE PUT OUT, MAYOR, YOU MAY SAY THE CITY OF SEDONA WILL DO THIS.

YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN FURMAN'S GONNA SAY THE EXACT SAME THING.

THE CITY OF SEDONA MAY DO THIS.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO STATEMENTS? DID YOU GUYS CATCH IT? SAY IT AGAIN.

MAYOR'S GONNA SAY, YEAH, THE CITY OF SEDONA WILL DO THIS.

COUNCILMAN FIRM IS GONNA SAY, YEAH, THE CITY, THE CITY MAY DO THIS, MAY, MAY, WILL AND MAY CITY ATTORNEY.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WILL AND MAY? YES, THERE MOST DEFINITELY IS , YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I I THINK THAT THE MAYOR WOULD, UH, WOULD TRUMP A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK .

WELL, AND, AND HERE'S THE THING, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

IT'S ONE SMALL WORD YOU'RE BOTH SAYING, INTENDING TO SAY THE EXACT SAME THING, RIGHT? OUR MESSAGING, WE IS CONSISTENT.

WE'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION, UM, VALIDATED THAT WE'RE TRACKING WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS ACTIVELY LOOKING TO DO.

YOU KNOW, IT, AND, AND WE, WE MAY STILL BE WORKING OUT THE DETAILS, BUT JUST THOSE ONE LITTLE WORD CHANGE WILL GET, UM, WILL, WILL GET A LOT OF CONFUSION STARTED.

AND, UM, SO THAT'S WHY THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER IS CRITICAL, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO COME IN AND PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER.

SO NOW YOU'RE BOTH ON THE SAME TALKING POINT, YOU'RE ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC, UM, AS WELL AS MY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OR STATE OFFICIALS.

EVERYBODY'S WORKING OFF THE SAME INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN VALIDATED AND VETTED, AND WE'VE BEEN EXERCISING THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEM SINCE THE START OF THIS FIRE.

OUR PIOS AND LAUREN INSTANTLY INTEGRATED WITH THE PIOS FOR THE FIRE, AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON MAKING SURE WE HAVE CONSISTENT MESSAGING ACROSS ALL OF OUR PLATFORMS. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AS ELABORATE AS SETTING UP AN ENTIRE CENTER OR PHYSICAL DESIGNATED LOCATION FOR YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION SYSTEMS, BUT MERELY BY, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING THE PIOS, CONNECTING THE MESSAGING, YOU FORM THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEM.

AND I THINK LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE HONEST, IN THOSE, THOSE FIRST ESPECIALLY 48 HOURS OF A DISASTER, YOU GUYS ARE OFTEN BUSY ENOUGH DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING DAY JOB AND DISASTER, THAT YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO HAVE THE TIME TO TRY TO GO VALIDATE AND PUT ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SYSTEM IN PLACE, UH, TO REALLY TAKE THAT WORKLOAD AND GIVE IT TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT, THAT DO THAT ON A DAILY BASIS.

SPEAKING OF OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS FOLKS, THIS IS REALLY, UM, THE BIG KEY, UH, TOPICS THAT, THAT THEY WILL DO.

THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THE MEDIA.

THEY'RE GONNA GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS SCHEDULED, JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF, OF HAVING THOSE CONTACTS WITH, WITH THE MEDIA OUTLETS DETERMINING DO WE HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE? WHEN WILL IT BE, WHERE WILL IT BE? WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE? UM, THEY WILL OFTEN SERVE AS THE PIO, UM, FOR, UM, FOR THEIR JURISDICTION.

AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START HAVING LARGE INCIDENTS, THOSE PIOS DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FROM JUST GOVERNMENT.

UM, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE START HAVING MAJOR POWER OUTAGES FROM A WINTER STORM OR A HAZMAT INCIDENT, WE MAY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIN, YOU KNOW, BNSF, IF THEY HAD A DERAILMENT, WE MAY HAVE A PS, WE MAY HAVE UNISOURCE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE INCIDENT, UH, WE MAY HAVE THEIR PIOS, UM, IN THE, THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER TOGETHER.

SO IT'S A ONE COORDINATED EFFORT.

SO ALL THE LAST HANDFUL OF SLIDES KIND OF ALL SUMMED UP INTO ONE GRID RIGHT HERE.

AND YOU GUYS ARE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IN THE RED, YOU KNOW, SO THIS KIND OF TALKS BRIEFLY, INCIDENT COMMANDER, THEY'RE GONNA MANAGE THINGS AT THE SCENE.

THE EOC MANAGER AND STAFF ARE GONNA SUPPORT THE INCIDENT COMMANDER, THE EO C'S, KIND OF THAT NECK OF THE HOURGLASS.

A LOT OF STUFF WILL FLOW UP AND DOWN THE CHAIN THROUGH THE EOC.

WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT THE POLICY GROUP.

JOINT INFORMATION CENTER'S GONNA MAKE SURE THAT

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A LOT OF TIMES THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER WILL ALSO SUPPORT OR OPERATE A CALL CENTER FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN THOSE SENIOR OFFICIALS, YOU GUYS WILL ALL, UM, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE POLICY TO RESPOND APPROPRIATELY AND GIVE US THAT MISSION SPECIFIC LONG-TERM IN-STATE OBJECTIVES.

I WANNA HIGHLIGHT TOO, THE TOP RIGHT QUADRANT, EOC MANAGER AND STAFF, WHEN WE HAVE THE EOC ACTIVATED FOR THE FIRST THREE DAYS OF THE POCKET FIRE, THAT'S WHAT MY ROLE IN THE ROLE OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER WAS FOR US TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES, PLAN FOR RESOURCE REQUIREMENTS, AND FACILITATE THAT SITUATIONAL AWARENESS BETWEEN OUR PARTNERS TO OTHER CITY STAFF, TO, UH, CITY MANAGER SPEAKERS, BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE FACILITATING OUT OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

SO, JUST VERY QUICKLY HIGHLIGHTING SOME POLICY LEVEL PREPAREDNESS.

WE'VE KIND OF HIT ON ALL THIS STUFF, BUT HERE'S SOME, SOME, UH, CHANCE HAS SOME TAKEAWAYS, SOME HOMEWORK TO DO.

UM, BUT THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN HELP US WITH TOO, DOES THE, DOES SEDONAS PREPAREDNESS PLANS, POLICIES AND ORDINANCES, DO THEY ALIGN WITH NIMS? AND WE SAW, YES, YOU GUYS HAVE ADOPTED THAT IN 2005, BUT YOU'VE PASSED A LOT OF ORDINANCES AND POLICY SINCE THEN.

DO THOSE ALIGN WITH THE 2005? UH, IS IT PROCLAMATION OR IS IT RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION? UM, YOU KNOW, AND DO THE PLANS COVER ALL HAZARDS? THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT IN THE LAST HANDFUL OF YEARS, PROBABLY 10 OR 12 YEARS.

UH, WE USED TO HAVE A WILDFIRE SPECIFIC PLAN, A HAZMAT SPECIFIC PLAN.

NOW THEY'RE ALL HAZARDS.

IT IS A, JUST LIKE, UM, ICS, IT'S A GENERAL FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN USE TO RESPOND TO ANY DISASTER, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, AND THEN WORK OUT THE FINER DETAILS THROUGH A LOT OF POLICIES AND GUIDANCE FROM THE RESPONDING AGENCIES.

UM, UPTODATE INFORMATION, YOU GUYS JUST UPDATED THE EVACUATION PLAN TO ADD ZONE ZERO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S HUGE.

SO MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PLANS ARE UP TO DATE.

UM, THE STATE PLAN WILL, UM, THE STATE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, THEY WILL UPDATE THAT PERIODICALLY.

SO THEN WHEN THEY UPDATE, THEN THE COUNTIES AND CITIES WILL ALL HAVE TO COME IN AND KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN IS STILL ALIGNED WITH THAT.

UH, USUALLY EVERY THREE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE PLAN.

AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CURRENTLY REVISING THAT EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, ALIGNING IT WITH THE COUNTY PLANS, ALIGNING WITH THE EVACUATION REENTRY PLAN, AND MAKING SURE IT JUST HAS THE LATEST GUIDANCE.

LIKE TIM JUST SAID, 3, 4, 5 YEARS IS TYPICALLY THE PLANNING CYCLE, AND WE'RE INSIDE OF THAT AND MAKING REVISIONS TO HAVE IT OUT SOON.

SO A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UH, AND, AND THESE ARE OFTEN NOT ANSWERED TODAY, BUT JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH QUALIFIED STAFF TO FILL THE POSITIONS OF THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM, THOSE BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN THE FIELD AND AN EOC AND IN THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEM.

AND IF THE ANSWER'S NO, WHICH IT LIKELY IS, BECAUSE MOST PLACES ARE NO, WHERE DO YOU GET 'EM? SO THAT'S WHERE WE, UH, WE BRING IN THE ARIZONA QUALIFICATION SYSTEM.

IT'S FAIRLY NEW.

IT'S ACTUALLY, WHAT, FOUR YEARS NOW? I'D SAY LIKE 3, 3, 4 YEARS.

PRETTY NEW SYSTEM THAT THE STATE DEVELOPED.

UH, IT IS LARGELY BASED ON, UH, THE NATIONAL WILDFIRE CREDENTIALING SYSTEM.

UM, IF YOU EVER HEARD, YOU KNOW, THE WILDLAND FIRE FOLKS TALK ABOUT HAVING RED CARDS, THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A CREDENTIAL THAT THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED ABILITIES, KNOWLEDGE, SOME SKILLS THAT SAYS, YES, I CAN DO THIS POSITION.

THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

UM, YOUR EOC POSITIONS ALL HAVE WHAT THEY CALL POSITION TASK BOOKS.

UM, THOSE, THOSE BOOKS ARE, UM, USUALLY FOR LIKE YOUR SECTION CHIEF LEVEL AND INCIDENT COMMANDER LEVEL, THERE'S ABOUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 250 TO 270 INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL HAS TO DEMONSTRATE COMPETENCY IN, UH, TASK BOOKS ARE, CAN BE OPEN FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS BECAUSE IT CAN TAKE THAT LONG.

UM, THE STATE JUST ISSUED THEIR 100TH CREDENTIAL.

THEY ISSUED GOLD CARDS, UH, FOR INSTEAD OF RED CARDS.

THERE'S WERE GOLD.

UM, CHANCE HAS ONE BEFORE CHANCE QUIT ME .

WE, UM, COCONINO COUNTY, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT OUR DEPARTMENT REALLY, UM, MADE AN EFFORT TO DO.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE ALL OF OUR STAFF, UH, CREDENTIALED, UH, AND GOLD CARD CREDENTIALED IN OUR EOC CHANCE LEFT AND BROKE UP THE BAND.

UH, WE WON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM, BUT, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION, CAN YOU VERIFY THAT THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE DOING THE JOB HAVE THE TRAINING EXPERIENCE AND,

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UH, PERFORMANCE NECESSARY TO DO THAT? SO WHAT STANDARDS DO YOU HAVE? AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE A QS, BUT WHAT, WHAT STANDARDS ARE THERE TO VERIFY THAT, THAT THE PEOPLE DOING THE JOB ARE, ARE QUALIFIED TO DO THAT? AND THEN WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU PRACTICED? YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED WE DID THE HOLD ON CHANCE.

I'M ABOUT TO HIT THEM FIRST.

, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THAT WE DID THE, UH, JOINT INFORMATION CENTER TABLETOP, UH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, AND HAD A REALLY GOOD, UH, TURNOUT, REALLY GOOD OUTCOME FROM THAT.

BUT WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS PARTICIPATED? AND DO WE NEED TO COME IN AND DO THAT TOO? CAN WE ALL SIT AROUND THE ROOM AGAIN, GIVE YOU A SCENARIO AND SEE HOW YOU'RE GONNA REACT TO IT? YOU KNOW, UM, THAT ALLOWS US TO COME IN AND, AND DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, WE ALL STAY FRESH, RIGHT? WE ALL REMEMBER OUR ROLES, BUT THEN WE CAN DO AFTER ACTION REPORTS AND IMPROVEMENT PLANS.

SO WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DID, WHAT WE DID WELL, WHERE AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON, AND THEN CREATE A PLAN TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS.

SO, YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, TIM.

SO THE TWO MOST VETERAN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, HAVE YOU EVER DONE A TABLETOP EXERCISE OR ANYTHING LIKE WHAT'S DISCUSSED HERE? NOT IN SEDONA, BUT ELSEWHERE.

ELSEWHERE.

BECAUSE I'M, I MEAN, IT HASN'T HAPPENED DURING, YOU KNOW, OUR TIME ON COUNCIL.

SO YEAH.

I'M SH NODDING MY HEAD AT CHANCE GOING, HECK YEAH.

AND I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I THINK THE POLICY GROUP IS OFTEN ONE OF THE MOST OVERLOOKED, YET IT'S OFTEN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND I, I WILL SAY THAT FOR MYSELF IN, IN THE COUNTY, WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN QUITE A WHILE TO DO JUST THIS VERY THING.

UM, BEEN WORKING WITH THEM NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO.

SO, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY ALL KIND OF STARTS AND ENDS WITH YOUR GUIDANCE AND OVERALL DIRECTION.

SO PROBABLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? YEAH.

I MEAN, AT A MINIMUM WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT EVERY TWO YEARS, RIGHT? EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CHANGEOVER OF COUNCIL AFTER AN ELECTION, WE SHOULD BE DOING, UH, THESE EXERCISES AT THE POLICY LEVEL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO YOU CHANCE FOR HOW FREQUENT FOR THE FOLKS THAT IN THE NEXT TWO CIRCLES, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.

AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE FOCUS ON LIKE A CRAWL, WALK, RUN LEVEL OF TRAINING.

SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE CRAWL LEVEL OF TRAINING.

THEN WE HAVE EVOLVED TO THE WALK, WHICH IS DOING A TABLETOP EXERCISE, AND THEN FINALLY A FUNCTIONAL WHERE YOU ACTUALLY KIND OF WALK THROUGH AN ACTUAL INCIDENT.

WE HAVE DONE TWO TABLETOP EXERCISES, ONE FOR CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, FOCUSED ON CONSEQUENCE MANAGEMENT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THE POWER GOES OUT? WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CAN'T SUPPLY WATER? AND WE'VE DONE ANOTHER ONE WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT REALLY FOCUSED ON EVACUATION MANAGEMENT.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE THAT KIND OF SCENARIO? AND THESE ALL GRADUALLY GROW UP TO DOING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FUNCTIONAL EXERCISE.

MAYBE WE PRACTICE EVACUATING AN AREA, AND THEN MAYBE A FULL SCALE EXERCISE.

MAYBE WE PULL IN OUTSIDE RESOURCES, HEY, AND WE TRY, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, SOME OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE COULD UTILIZE.

BUT IT REALLY IS THAT CRAWL, WALK, RUN PHILOSOPHY.

AND THIS TRAINING IS THE INITIAL COMPONENT THAT WE NEED TO BUILD UP TO THAT.

COOL.

AND CHANCE KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I, I I WAS GONNA SAY YOU TRAINED HIM WELL, I TRAINED HIM WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WAS LEADING UP TO YOU.

I WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME KNOWING THE ANSWER IS IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

AND THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND, AND, AND IT'S, WE, WE WANT TO START SLOW, GIVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND EDUCATION, AND THEN PUT IT INTO PRACTICE.

SO I WOULD SAY IT'S COMING.

UM, WHICH REMINDS ME, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

SO I, I USED TO WORK FOR STATE GOVERNMENT AND I WAS OUR, UH, DEPARTMENT'S DELEGATED REPRESENTATIVE TO THE TABLETOPS.

AND THEY WERE DONE EVERY YEAR.

ONE YEAR IT WAS INVASION OF THE RUSSIANS.

WE WERE CLOSE TO RUSSIA.

IT'S WHEN I WAS IN ALASKA, AND I WAS GLAD YOU CLARIFIED THAT.

WELL, THEY, IS THIS LIKE MOJAVE COUNTY OR, AND, AND ONE YEAR IT WAS AN EARTHQUAKE MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

AND WE WENT TO THE, UH, AIR FORCE BASE, ALDO AIR FORCE BASE IN ANCHORAGE AND ACTUALLY FLEW US IN.

AND SO IT, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

AND THEY, WE DID TABLETOP EXERCISES FOR ONE OR TWO DAYS.

I DON'T RECALL HOW MANY DAYS? AT LEAST ONE FULL DAY.

I, I HAVE, UH, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE, THE, OUR COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE BRIEFLY ABOUT, UM, ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, UM, PRETTY MUCH OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS FROM NOW, 'CAUSE IT, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET ALL THE WAY UP TO A FULL SCALE, YOU KNOW, CHANCE MENTION THAT THAT CRAWL, WALK, RUN, UM, IS, IS TO POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT DOING, UM, SOMETHING DOWN HERE WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE THE CITY, YAVAPAI COUNTY, COCONINO COUNTY AND, AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

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OBVIOUSLY FUNDING WOULD, WOULD COME INTO THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF, UH, SCENARIO COULD WE BRING IN TO EXERCISE? ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BRING IN THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER AND, AND WE EXERCISE THAT GROUP.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ALWAYS TRAINING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S, ALWAYS TRAINING PUBLIC WORKS IS ALWAYS TRAINING.

EVERYONE'S GROWING IN THEIR OWN FIELDS, BUT NOW LET'S BRING 'EM ALL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, AND, AND REALLY WORK THROUGH, UM, A, A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

SO CHARLOTTE, I'M CURIOUS, YOU WORK FOR STATE GOVERNMENT, DID THEY HAVE A IN ARIZONA? YES, THEY DO.

MM-HMM .

SAME KIND OF THING? YEAH.

AND I WAS OVER RISK MANAGEMENT, WHICH WAS HIGHLY INVOLVED WITH IT.

A LOT OF FINER NUANCES THAT I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT GO INTO THAT.

I'M WONDERING ABOUT HOSTAGE SITUATIONS.

, SOMEBODY COMES IN, ARE YOU TAKING THEM? UH, SOMEBODY'S TAKING US.

OH, OKAY.

AND THERE IS NO ELECTED OFFICIAL TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE THEY'RE A HOSTAGE.

WHAT DOES YOUR CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT PLAN SAY? I DON'T KNOW, , BUT MONIQUE DOES.

DEPENDS.

IT DEPENDS.

, YOU KNOW, AND EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IF THERE IS, UH, AND I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CALIFORNIA EARTHQUAKES, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE NINETIES WHEN YOU, YOU CAN'T GET IN TOUCH WITH THE MAYOR.

WELL, OKAY, WELL, WE JUST GO TO THE VICE MAYOR.

WELL, HE'S OUTTA THE COUNTRY ON VACATION.

WE CAN'T GET IN TOUCH WITH A VICE MAN.

THEN WHO, WHAT IS THAT, THAT SECESSION LINE ALL AND, AND HOW FAR DOWN DOES IT NEED TO GO? I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT A RS WOULD SAY, BUT WOULD DEFINITELY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WORTH PURSUING.

SO, GOOD QUESTION.

DESIGNATED SURVIVOR.

OH YEAH, NOT IT .

SO A LITTLE BIT OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

UH, THIS IS, IS KIND OF COMMON FOR US.

UH, AND WE JUST MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO? WE, WE DO WHAT WE CALL HOT WASHES OR THAT INCIDENT DEBRIEF.

UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AFTER, UM, AN INCIDENT OR A TRAINING HAS OCCURRED WHILE EVERYTHING'S STILL FRESH IN OUR MIND, WE'LL KIND OF SIT DOWN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WENT WELL, WHERE CAN WE IMPROVE? AND THEN WE'LL IDENTIFY SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME WAYS TO GROW AND, AND, AND, AND IMPROVE.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET A 95 ON THE TEST AND FEEL REAL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF, BUT WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET A HUNDRED? AND THEN IF YOU GET A HUNDRED, WHAT ABOUT EXTRA CREDIT, RIGHT? WE CAN ALWAYS GROW.

AND WILL THIS OCCUR FOR THE POST-FIRE? DOES IT HAPPEN ON EVERY ONE OF THESE EVENTS? UM, FOR POCKET FIRE, POCKET FIRE? YES.

YES, SIR.

THEY WILL.

UM, THEY WILL DO ONE.

I I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FEDERAL PROCEDURES LOOK LIKE, BUT I KNOW THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS WILL COME IN.

UM, TYPICALLY IT'S, IT'S PART OF THEIR OUT BRIEFING, UH, WHERE THEY WILL BRING IN, UH, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE LEARN, HERE'S WHAT WE DID, HERE'S WHAT WE LEARNED, HERE'S WHAT WENT WELL, WHAT DIDN'T.

UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, REPORTING FOR THAT AND, YOU KNOW, AND LESSONS LEARNED.

SO HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE POCKET FIRE, WHERE THE INSTINCT COULD BE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THE SAME NUMBER OF RESOURCES HERE OVER THAT TIME, WOULD BE MY GUESS, UNLESS IT FLARES OR WHATEVER.

SO WHEN WOULD THIS HAPPEN? SO TYPICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS, THE SOUTHWEST TEAM TWO THAT'S HERE, UH, THEY'RE USUALLY HERE AVERAGE DAYS, 14 DAYS.

IF THE EVENT CONTINUES FROM THAT, THEY'LL CALL IN ANOTHER TEAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE TEAM ONE COMES IN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY ONE OF THE, THE COMPLEX SYSTEM MANAGEMENT TEAMS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, UM, THE TEAM THAT'S HERE IS TRACKING DOCUMENTATION DAILY.

EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO GETS DOCUMENTED.

THEY WILL THEN TAKE THAT INFORMATION WHEN THEY GET READY TO LEAVE.

THEY'LL SIT DOWN AND HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST, THE AGENCY ADMINISTRATORS WHO STILL OWN THAT LAND AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE DID.

HERE'S ALL OF OUR STUFF.

HERE'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THAT.

A LOT OF TIMES, NOT ALWAYS, A LOT OF TIMES THE INCOMING TEAM WILL BE IN THAT SAME MEETING.

SO IT'S A VERY, UM, VERY INTENTIONAL HANDOFF OF INFORMATION.

AND THEN AT THE VERY, VERY END, A LOT OF THE FOREST STAFF THAT ARE STILL HERE WILL START COLLATING THAT INFORMATION, UM, AND STUFF THAT THEY'VE LEARNED THROUGH THOSE OUT BRIEFINGS TO, TO REALLY FORMULATE THEIR FINAL PLAN FOR THE FINAL INCIDENT REPORT.

AND, AND THAT'S VERY OVERSIMPLIFIED.

THERE'S

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UM, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC, UM, HANDOFF TYPE PROCEDURE TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION IS NOT LOST BETWEEN TEAMS. SO, VERY QUICK REVIEW OF YOUR ROLES, WHAT WE NEED AND ASK OF YOU GUYS SET AND COMMUNICATE YOUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

WHAT'S THAT LONG-TERM GOAL? MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, THAT THEY'RE CLEAR.

CHECK IN WITH US.

WE'LL CHECK IN WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED SOUND POLICIES, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THOSE POLICIES.

AND THEN LAST, TRUST AND SUPPORT YOUR STAFF.

AGAIN, MAYOR, YOU MAY NOT HAVE A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE TO DRIVE THAT DUMP TRUCK, BUT REALLY DOES WE'LL GET CAVEAT THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT I, I WOULD SAY, AND, AND WHAT I TELL, UM, AND YOU KNOW, EVERY GROUP THAT I, THAT I HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH IS, YOU'VE HIRED FOLKS FOR A REASON.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

YOU KNOW, YOUR CITY ENGINEER IS THE ENGINEER BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRE CHIEF, THE CITY MANAGER, EVERY, YOU'VE HIRED THESE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO.

LEAN ON 'EM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND LET US MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD, IS WHAT I TELL.

SO, HEY, HERE'S AN ACRONYM LIST OF ALL THE GIBBERISH WE'VE BEEN SAYING, UM, IN, IN TRUE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FORM.

WE PUT IT AT THE END.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T LEARN IT EARLIER, SO SHOULD PUT IT AT THE BEGINNING.

WHAT'S SIR, SHOULD BE THE FIRST PAGE.

SHOULD BE THE FIRST PAGE.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF IT FOR THE, THE, THE FORMAL PRESENTATION PIECE.

WANTED TO, UM, CHANCE, I GUESS JUST OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO, TO WALK THROUGH IT AND TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS, ANY LINGERING THOUGHTS, JUST, JUST A COMMENT.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

UM, CERTAINLY I'VE NOT HEARD OF ANY OF THIS IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT I HAVE SERVED, SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR.

UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT SEVERAL TIMES YOU'VE SAID HOW CHANCE HAS, YOU KNOW, BROKEN UP YOUR BAND.

I I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT HE'S ACTUALLY NOW PRODUCING AN ORCHESTRA, UM, FOR YOU, AND YOU REALLY OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY.

I, YOU KNOW, I, I GET A CHANCE, A LOT OF GRIEF.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS CHIEF FOLEY MENTIONED, I WAS ON THE HIRING PANEL WHEN, UM, WHEN SHE WAS RECRUITING FOR THE INAUGURAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY, AND, UH, HAD A LOT OF GOOD CANDIDATES.

AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS WORKING FOR ME AT THE TIME.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, IT WAS PROBABLY THE EASIEST DECISION THAT I COULD MAKE WAS SAYING, YEAH, HE'S, HE'S THE RIGHT GUY.

SO, UM, I TAKE NO CREDIT AND TRAINING AND WHATSOEVER .

UM, BUT, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I I I WILL SAY, UM, SELFISHLY IT, I'M GLAD HE'S DOWN HERE BECAUSE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT, THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE CITY AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY IN THIS RESPECT, UM, IS EVEN THAT MUCH BETTER.

YOU KNOW? AND I KNOW ASHLEY'S SHAKING HER HEAD FEELS THE SAME.

SO, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, I, IT, HE JUST, HIM BEING DOWN HERE AND CREATING THIS POSITION, UM, HAS REALLY BOLSTERED THE CITY'S PREPAREDNESS POSTURE, UM, EVEN IN THE LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

AND I KNOW, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN HIM SOME HOMEWORK, SOME TAKEAWAYS.

PLEASE KEEP DOING THAT.

HE'S YOUNG, HE DOESN'T SLEEP.

OVERWHELM HIM AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

UM, BUT IT JUST, IT ONLY SERVES TO BENEFIT THE CITY, UM, REALLY THROUGH THE, JUST THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE GOT.

SO YOU'RE LUCKY.

SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND HOW EVERY SITUATION'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A, A PLAYBOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, EVERY POSSIBLE SITUATION.

BUT I DO THINK IT'D BE KIND OF INTERESTING TO KNOW IF WE ANTICIPATE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN SEDONA AND HAVE SOME GENERAL, YOU KNOW, RULES OF PROCEDURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A COPY AND I'LL ADD ON TO THAT TOO.

AND SO WE DO THAT, AND THEN IF I'M OFF BASE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

BUT WE DO THAT TWO WAYS.

ONE IS THE ALL HAZARDS MITIGATION PLAN THAT THEY REFERENCED, WHICH IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING UPDATED, AND YOU ALL RECEIVE A COPY AND HOLD A HEARING TO ADOPT IT.

AND WE SEND IT TO THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES, OUR PORTION, THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL.

AND THEN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN THAT CHANCE MENTIONED IS LIKE THE HANDBOOK FOR ALL STAFF AND FOR YOURSELVES OF, HERE'S THE KEY THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN IF AN EMERGENCY HAPPENS, NO MATTER WHAT KIND IT IS.

UM,

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SO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN IS THAT FUNDAMENTAL FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO BUSINESS AS A CITY FOR AN EMERGENCY, FOR EMERGENCIES, FOR DISASTERS.

BUT REALLY WHERE WE DIVE INTO WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO, LIKE FIELD LEVEL STRATEGIES, TACTICS, THAT'S, THAT REALLY COMES OUT OF THOSE TABLETOP EXERCISES THAT WE PUT ON, WE GO THROUGH WITH STAFF AND WE SEE WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL ACTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IF THE SCENARIO IS A FLOOD OR IF THE SCENARIO IS A FIRE.

AND THEN OUT OF THOSE TABLETOP EXERCISES, UM, A LOT OF STAFF GETS ACTION ITEMS. AND THAT'S HOW THOSE THINGS GET CODIFIED WITHIN DEPARTMENTS, UM, WITHIN AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THINGS.

AND I DO WANNA REASSURE THE COUNCIL THAT EVEN THOUGH, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE CHANCES POSITION IN THE PAST, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN FLOODS AND ALL THAT, AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR IS NOW WE'RE FORMALIZING IT.

WE'RE CROSS TRAINING.

THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS MAY KNOW THEIR OWN LITTLE PIECE OF THE RESPONSE, BUT NOT LIKE THE WHOLE PICTURE.

AND BY BRINGING THIS INTO A MORE FORMALIZED PROGRAM, PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN A BIGGER TEAM.

AND, UM, BUT I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND BEFORE TODAY, .

NO, WE DO.

UH, WE WILL OPEN THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER ON SATURDAY.

BUT IT'S JUST ADDING A HIGHER LEVEL OF, UH, PROFESSIONALISM AND, AND FORMALITY TO IT, AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS TRAINED AND KNOWS WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

AND I CAN IMAGINE FOR THINGS LIKE FIRE OR FLOOD, THINGS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH BEFORE, UM, THERE ALREADY IS, YOU KNOW, SOME KNOWLEDGE THERE, BUT THE, I'M THINKING OF THINGS THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED OR TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED.

LIKE SOME THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT GOES DOWN, YOU KNOW, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, A BIG HOSTAGE SITUATION OR JUST SOME THINGS THAT, OTHER KINDS OF POSSIBILITIES.

SO IF I, SORRY.

UM, SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOU GUYS ACTUALLY HAVE A THREATENED HAZARD IDENTIFICATION, RISK RISK ASSESSMENT THAT DOES KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT.

LIKE YOU, YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU IDENTIFY WHERE AND WHAT IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, THAT'S MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY EARTHQUAKES OR FLOODS, BUT IT ALSO TAKES A DEMAND MADE CONSIDERATIONS AND, UH, IDENTIFY WAYS TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS.

NOW IT'S PROBABLY A COUPLE YEARS OLD, PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO BE REFRESHED.

UM, SORRY TO ADD THAT TO LATE, BUT, UM, THERE, THERE ARE PLANS IN PLACE FOR THAT AS WELL AS THE, YOU GUYS PARTICIPATE IN BOTH COCONINO COUNTY AND ABBA COUNTY'S MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.

AND THAT IS MORE TOWARDS MITIGATION, BUT WE STILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THE EARTHQUAKES AND, AND ROCK SLIDES, LANDSLIDES AND, AND JUST KIND OF THINGS THAT AREN'T JUST FLOODING AND, UH, WILDFIRES.

OKAY, GOOD TO KNOW.

I I CAN REMEMBER ONE TABLETOP, ONE FOR THE STATE WAS ONE OF THE HIGH HIGHEST IMPACT, LOWEST PROBABILITY WAS ROOSEVELT DAM BREAKS.

YOU TALK ABOUT A PROBLEM, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO? SO IT'S GOOD TO ANTICIPATE BEYOND THE, THE STANDARD FIRE AND FLOOD.

YOU KNOW, I THINK AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE, AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT THIS IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS, UH, WE HAVE THE NEW A PS POWER SHUTOFF POLICY, AND I FORWARDED YOU THE TEXT THIS TODAY THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT THAT ON FLAGSTAFF THIS WEEKEND, SATURDAY, I THINK MORNING.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU STAND UP THE EOC FOR THAT AND BE READY TO, YOU KNOW, RESPOND OR HOW A PS FITS IN THAT.

SO THAT'S LIKE ANOTHER, UM, EXAMPLE, REAL LIFE EXAMPLE THAT MAYBE WASN'T ON OUR RADAR IN THE PAST WHERE IT'S LIKE A PLAN ELECTRICAL OUTAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH.

UM, ANYWAY, JUST THOUGHT, GREAT EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO, UM, I, SO YES, AND SO I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ALREADY HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO RESPOND TO THINGS.

UM, YOUR EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, A HOSTAGE SITUATION OR AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES AND TRAIN ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I DON'T, I WOULD SAY I DON'T NECESSARILY AT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT LEVEL NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

SOME OF THOSE ARE, ARE SAFETY SENSITIVE THINGS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS HAS AN ON CALL WHO'S GONNA COME OUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S MY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR THAT'S GONNA COME OUT AND HELP ME CLEAR ROADS ON A SATURDAY? WHO'S GONNA, SO THERE'S ALREADY DEPARTMENT LEVEL CHECKLIST, POLICIES, JOB AIDS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED ONE, UH, IN COUNTY EMER IN COOKING COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY, POWER SHUTOFF, JUST THAT.

AND,

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UM, YOU KNOW, LARGELY BECAUSE OF, UH, TWO DIFFERENT COMPETING EVENTS WITH THE POCKET FIRE AND THE PSPS.

UM, AND THOSE ARE INTERESTING.

UM, AND, AND THEN A GOOD LITTLE NUANCE TO KNOW, IT'S LIKE, THAT'S NOT REALLY MY EVENT, RIGHT? THAT IS AN INCIDENT THAT IS, UH, INITIATED BY A PRIVATE FOR-PROFIT ENTERPRISE AT A PS.

SO WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNTY TO RESPOND TO THAT? UM, AND, UH, I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE? UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME COST TO IT, YOU KNOW, DO WE WORK WITH OUR, OUR, UM, RED CROSS OR OR NONPROFIT PARTNERS TO OPEN A SHELTER? OR WHERE CAN FOLKS COME BY TO CHARGE THEIR CELL PHONE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR CPAP MACHINE OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE, WHERE CAN THEY GO TO THE, HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THOSE FOLKS? A PS IS STILL STEPPING UP AND GOING TO DO A LOT, YOU KNOW, WITH ICE DISTRIBUTION AND MESSAGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YEAH, HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THAT? SO WE'VE CREATED, UH, IT'S ABOUT A THREE PAGE CHECKLIST OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA WANT TO DO, UM, IT TO, TO SUPPORT THAT INCIDENT.

AND I WILL SAY TOO, AT OUR LATEST, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD TABLETOP EXERCISE, PUBLIC SAFETY POWER SHUTOFF WAS A COMPONENT OF THAT.

AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT SOME OF THE IMPACTS AND HOW WE MIGHT ADDRESS THEM WOULD BE IF THERE WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY POWER SHUTOFF IN THE CITY.

UM, ONE OF THE AREAS IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH THAT, DISCUSS IT WITH THEM.

THEY HAVE CONTINGENCIES IN PLACE FOR OTHER CITY FACILITIES AS WELL.

SO WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE MAYBE ANCILLARY THINGS THAT AREN'T QUITE AS BRIGHT AS A WILDFIRE OR A FLOOD, UM, BUT DO HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS.

HOW OFTEN ARE YOU RUNNING THOSE EXERCISES OR SHOULD YOU BE RUNNING THOSE EXERCISES? QUARTERLY FRUIT TABLETOP EXERCISES? WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? DOES ANYONE WANT TO COMMENT ON THE FACT WE'RE ALL SMELLING SMOKE NOW AND YOU KNOW, IS IT JUST THE HEAVIER AIR AND THE WIND FROM THE NORTH THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REALLY EXPERIENCED IT IN THIS FIRE AND YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT THE WEATHER A LITTLE BIT MOVING IN.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A , RIGHT? RIGHT NOW THE A QI IS PURPLE FOR SEDONA ON THE MONITORS THAT I HAVE RUNNING THE STATION.

THE BARBECUE ENOUGH FOR THE WHOLE TOWN.

WE'RE VERY GOOD.

WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING OUT, I WILL SAY, UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN.

YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS, UM, A FUN GROUP TO, TO GET TO TALK TO AND INTERACT.

I REALLY ENJOYED MY TIME DOWN HERE AND, UM, YEAH, HAPPY TO BE DOWN AND, AND LOOK FORWARD TO FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT.

AND SPEAKING FOR ASHLEY TOO, BOTH OF OUR AGENCIES LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING, UM, SEDONA AND SEEING WHAT'S NEXT.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR LETTING US PUT THIS TRAINING ON FOR YOU.

'CAUSE REALLY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, IT ISN'T JUST A POLICE THING, IT ISN'T JUST A FIRE THING.

IT REALLY IS AN EVERYBODY THING.

EVERYBODY HAS A STAKE IN BEING PREPARED AND BEING READY.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THESE THINGS.

SO THANK YOU.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE YOU GUYS KUDOS, UM, FOR BEING SUCH LEADERS WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

YOU GUYS WERE THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO IMPLEMENT EVACUATION ZONES, THAT PLAN, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE FIRST INIFY COUNTY TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

UM, IT'S FANTASTIC.

I LOVE TO SEE IT.

IT MAKES ME SO, SO HAPPY AND THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING LEADERS.

AS A WHOLE BE ENGAGED IN UNDERSTANDING? UM, I HAVE HEARD QUITE FREQUENTLY, OKAY, I HAVE A ZONE.

IF THERE'S OTHER CITIES OR COUNTIES THAT, OR CITIES MOSTLY THAT ARE DOING THINGS YOU THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG TO US.

OR IT AS WELL, MAYOR, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO I ACTUALLY DID ATTEND THE COCONINO COUNTY VERSION OF THIS THING.

SO THAT IS A TOOL THAT DOES COME UP AND IT ACTUALLY IS INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT COORDINATING THAT.

SO IT'S EASY TO GET THIS TRAINING EVERY TWO YEARS FOR, FOR NEW PEOPLE, AND YOU GET TO MEET THE OTHER SORT OF OFFICIALS IN THE OTHER PLACES.

I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE, TIM.

SO THANKS TIM.

YES, WE, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY BE LOOKING, UH, HERE IN A COUPLE YEARS, USUALLY SHORTLY AFTER ELECTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NEW LOCAL OFFICIALS THAT COME IN AND KIND OF BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER FOR, UM, A GOOD NETWORKING EVENT AND GO OVER THIS AGAIN.

SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT PRETTY SOON.

SO I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT HERE.

THIS COMMUNITY IS HIGHLY ENGAGED.

WE'LL USE THAT TERM, UM, IN THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS, EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.

OF COURSE, FIRE IS WHAT'S ON MOST PEOPLE'S MIND BECAUSE SO MANY OF US SIT RIGHT ON THE FOREST.

BUT HOW, AT, AT WHAT LEVEL SHOULD THE COMMUNITY

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GONNA USE IT.

I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

I'M, I'M JUST STARING AT CHANCE, BY THE WAY, .

UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING AT YOU, UM, AS THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO HELP THE, AT THE RESIDENT LEVEL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO DO.

UM, BESIDES WHAT READY, SET GO MEANS, OR A BUG OUT BAG OR ANY OF THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED AND IT JUST LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THEM FULLY ENGAGED? 'CAUSE I WILL BET YOU'RE NOT GETTING 9,000 PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT THE HUB ON THE 18TH OF JULY.

SO WE'RE NOT, SO WE'RE CONSIDERED TO WORK, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR INFORMATION OUTLETS WITH THE RED ROCK READY CAMPAIGN, HAVING IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND WE'RE WORKING TO EXPAND THOSE.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT I'M HERE, I'M ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE IN-PERSON TRAININGS FOR PEOPLE.

BUT I WOULD JUST EMPHASIZE THAT THE TOP THREE THINGS PEOPLE CAN DO, OR THEY CAN SIGN UP FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS, THEY CAN KNOW THEIR ZONE AND THEN THEY CAN USE THOSE PRIOR TWO THINGS AND THEY CAN MAKE THE THIRD THING, WHICH IS HAVING A PLAN.

KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU IF YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE, KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOUR FAMILY, KNOW WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A DECISION THAT I AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU IN ANY SITUATION WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

IF YOU EVACUATE HOW MANY DAYS WORTH OF FOOD OR SUPPLIES THAT YOU MIGHT NEED FOR A POWER SHUTOFF, THERE REALLY IS A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL PREPAREDNESS THAT GOES INTO THIS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A DECISION BEST MADE AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, BUT NOT THE ZONES, RIGHT? LIKE, I'M ZONE SIX, OKAY, GREAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

LIKE, AM I GOING TO BE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, HEY, ZONE SIX, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO EVACUATE.

HOW AM I GONNA GET OUT? AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MODELS, THE COMPUTER MODELS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE THROUGH THE CITY GOING OUT THE WINDOW 'CAUSE PEOPLE PANIC.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS WANTS TO KNOW AND HASN'T HEARD.

UM, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, SO I'M ALSO LOOKING AT YOU FOR AN ANSWER FOR ME TO TELL THEM.

I THINK ONE OF THE DIFFICULT THINGS, AND I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS TO A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT, WELL, WHAT'S THE ROUTE I'M SUPPOSED TO TAKE? WELL, UM, CLASSIC, IT DEPENDS, RIGHT? , SO INCIDENT SPECIFIC DEPENDS ON THE, YOU KNOW, WIND DIRECTION, WHERE THE FIRE'S HEADING, IF IT'S A FIRE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO WE DON'T WANT, OR I GUESS FOR ME, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF AND CHANCE THINK, BUT IF PEOPLE PRACTICE A CERTAIN EVACUATION ROUTE AND THAT'S THEIR MUSCLE MEMORY AND IT ENDS UP TAKING THEM INTO THE FIRE INSTEAD OF AWAY FROM THE FIRE BECAUSE WE GIVE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION IN THE MOMENT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOWN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD.

SO, SO I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

I KNOW PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT LIKE A VERY SPECIFIC INSTRUCTION TO HELP THEM FEEL LIKE PREPARED IN THAT WAY.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, IS HOPEFULLY TYPICALLY WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME OR MORE TIME AND THE SOONER PEOPLE CAN, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE, OF THE FIRE NOTICES AND STUFF AND NOT WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE IS GOOD.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WANNA CHIME IN ON THAT, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST A CHALLENGE.

THE OTHER PIECE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ALSO WANNA KNOW HOW THEY CAN HELP AND MANAGING THE DEMAND OR THE VOLUNTEER INTEREST OF PEOPLE FLOODING THE INCIDENT TEAM AND THE EOC WITH RE WITH OFFERS TO HELP IS ANOTHER CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE.

AND SOME COMMUNITIES DO CREATE WHAT THEY CALL COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAMS, CERT TEAMS, WHICH ARE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR SPECIFIC ROLES TO ASSIST IN EMERGENCIES.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER WAY WE COULD LOOK AT, UM, UH, FOLKS WHO REALLY WANNA BE A PART OF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, HOW THAT WOULD LOOK AND WHAT THEY COULD DO AND HOW THEY COULD BE EFFECTIVELY TRAINED BESIDES JUST KNOWING HOW TO EVACUATE.

SO YEAH, I THINK THIS IS SIMPLER THAN THAT ACTUALLY.

IT'S JUST, IT'S A SIMPLER, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE'S, WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROADS WILL BE AVAILABLE.

WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF UNTIL IT HAPPENS.

AND SO I GET THAT, I THINK IT'S SIMPLER.

I THINK PEOPLE GO, SO I'M ZONE SIX, WHEN AM I GONNA KNOW? LIKE, SHOULD WE ALL JUST LEAVE WHEN IT'S SET? RIGHT? AND INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD CREATE OTHER ISSUES.

SO I THINK PEOPLE JUST WANNA KNOW THIS, EVEN THE BASIC STUFF, LIKE WHO, HOW AM I GONNA BE NOTIFIED THAT MY ZONE SHOULD DO SOMETHING? BUT THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT

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THAT, RIGHT? AND SO I, I THINK IT'S ABOUT SHOWING HOW ALL OF THIS WORKS TOGETHER AND WHY ALL OF THIS IS RELEVANT AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE, HOW DO I REACH SOMEBODY WHO GOT ON A SHUTTLE TO GO OVER TO SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THEIR CAR IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN AND HOW ARE THEY GONNA GET TO THEIR CAR? PEOPLE HAVE THOSE VERY HIGHER LEVEL SORTS OF THINGS IN THEIR MINDS, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SAYING YES, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE ACTUAL DISASTER.

BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL, HERE'S THE FRAMEWORK, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

IT TAKES A LOT OF EDUCATION, A LOT OF OUTREACH FOR SURE.

OKAY, SO I WANNA BRING UP A COUPLE THINGS.

SO CHANCE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS THAT A HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF WORKFLOW BASED APPLICATION THROUGH EITHER OUR WEBSITE OR SOMEBODY PROBABLY ALREADY HAS IT TO ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE THINK THROUGH WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE GO BAG.

HOW, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE HOW MANY DAYS AND THE I'M GONNA GO WHERE, AND LIKE LITERALLY WE NEED TO TO SPOONFEED THAT TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

AND I IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY, SOMEBODY'S PROBABLY BUILT AN APP FOR THAT, UM, AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? THE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MIND, WHEN WE HEARD A PS IN HERE THE LAST TIME TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, FIRE SAFETY AND SO FORTH, UM, THEY KNOW PROBABLY NOT EVERYBODY, BUT THEY KNOW A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SHUT-INS OR THAT OTHERWISE HAVE MEDICAL CONDITIONS WHERE IT COULD BE DIFFICULT TO EVACUATE.

UH, IN THEIR CASE IT WAS REALLY LIKE, HEY, IF WE PRO, UH, PROACTIVELY SHUT DOWN YOUR POWER AND YOU'RE RELYING ON POWER, YOU KNOW, FOR OXYGEN GENERATION OR WHATEVER, WE GOTTA HELP YOU OUT, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE THAT IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION OR ARE WE CALLING UP A PS AND SAYING, HEY, DO YOU KNOW WHO ALL NEEDS HELP? SO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, UM, WE DO HAVE RAVE PREPARE, IT'S A FUNCTIONAL NEEDS REGISTRY, AND, UM, PRIOR TO THAT, OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY MANAGED A MANUAL DATABASE.

SO, UH, THEY, THEY STILL HAVE THAT IN PLACE AS WE, WE PHASE IT OUT.

UM, BUT WE'LL CONTACT THEM.

WE'LL ALSO CHECK, RAVE, PREPARE, WE'LL DO A QUERY DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, IF IT'S A POWER OUTAGE, WE CAN FIND OUT WHO HAS, UH, POWERED MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.

UM, IF IT'S AN EVACUATION, WE FIND OUT WHO MAYBE NEEDS ASSISTANCE WITH EVACUATING OR NEEDS ASSISTANCE EVACUATING THEIR ANIMALS, AND WE CAN DO THAT QUERY, UM, AND ASSESS THAT INFORMATION FOR PLAN AND CONSIDERATION.

NOW IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE INFORMATION THAT'S PUT IN IT.

UM, SO THAT IS ALWAYS THE TRICK.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY TRUST THE GOVERNMENT EVEN THOUGH IT IS LITERALLY JUST THERE FOR PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIPS AND YOU KNOW, LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS, SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND SUCH THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH TO FIND OUT WHERE OUR VULNERABLE, UH, FOLKS ARE.

AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THE CITY ITSELF, TAKING A PROACTIVE ROLE IN TRYING TO GET REACH OUT AND MAKE PEOPLE AWARE THAT THEY CAN GET ON THIS LIST AND, AND HAVE SOME RESOURCING IF NECESSARY.

AND I BELIEVE CHIEF MISSOULA DOESN'T SEDONA FIRE ALSO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REGISTER WITH YOU IF THEY HAVE, UM, SPECIAL NEEDS AND, UH, MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AT HOME TYPE THING SO THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL REGISTRY.

THERE IS, THERE IS SOME, SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT HAPPENS AT THE COTTONWOOD DISPATCH AND YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S A WIDE RANGE FROM SPECIFIC MEDICAL NEEDS TO IDENTIFIED HOARDER HOUSE TO, TO THIS HOUSE HAS A BASEMENT.

UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS.

WE HAD A COUPLE FITS AND STARTS WITH IT.

AND, UM, LIKE FIREWISE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A RUMOR OUT THERE THAT IF WE INSPECT YOUR HOME, THEN WE ALERT THE INSURANCE COMPANY.

SO WHEN WE STARTED GETTING INTO THESE MEDICAL NECESSITY THINGS, UH, WE, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT I GOT GOING ON.

AND SO WE, WE PUMPED THE BRAKES, BUT THOSE, IT'S POINT IS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A SOLID SYSTEM, BUT, BUT THOSE THAT HAVE WANTED TO WILL HAVE AN ALERT AND DISPATCH AND IT'LL, IT'LL COME ACROSS WHEN WE'RE SENT TO A CALL THERE.

CAN I JUMP IN, UH, AND KIND OF ADD A LITTLE BIT ON THE, THE RAVE PREPARE PIECE FOR WHAT, UM, THE WAY THAT WE IN, IN THE COUNTY USE IT AND REALLY KIND OF GOES MORE TO WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER THIS? UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THE WAY THAT I DESCRIBE IT IS DURING AN EVACUATION, IF THERE IS ANY MEDICAL REASON THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM EVACUATING EFFICIENTLY.

AND, AND THAT IS INTENTIONALLY BROAD.

YOU KNOW, ANYTHING TO PREVENT YOU FROM STANDING UP, WALKING TO THE DOOR, GETTING YOUR KEYS,

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GETTING IN THE CAR TO LEAVE, UM, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE HAS POWERED MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, UH, SOMEONE MAY BE BEDBOUND OR YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WHEELCHAIR OR DOZENS OF OTHER OPTIONS TO SELECT IF YOU NOTE THAT IN YOUR ACCOUNT, THAT HELPS US AND FIRST RESPONDERS WHEN WE START MAKING EVACUATIONS.

AND A GOOD EXAMPLE WAS FOR US WAS DURING THE TUNNEL FIRE, IF I'M TRYING TO, UH, SEND OUT A MESSAGE AND PUBLIC SAFETY'S GONNA COME AROUND AND TRY TO EVACUATE A THOUSAND HOMES, WE'LL SEND THAT MESSAGE OUT THAT THAT EMERGENCY ALERT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DRAW THAT POLYGON, THAT BOX ON A MAP SAYS YOU NEED TO EVACUATE NOW WE'LL USE THAT SAME POLYGON AND RUN THE REPORT THAT ASHLEY'S MENTIONING TO SAY WHO'S GONNA NEED HELP EVACUATING? AND WE CAN THEN USE THE SYSTEM TO NARROW THAT DOWN FROM A THOUSAND TO 12, YOU KNOW, AND SO NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE GO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR, THEY ONLY REALLY MIGHT NEED TO GO TO 12.

WE CAN REALLY REACH OUT TO THOSE 12 PEOPLE AND SAY, SEND 'EM A MESSAGE.

ARE YOU HOME? AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT, OR YOU KNOW, THEY CAN RESPOND BACK TO THE TEXT WHERE WE SAY, ARE YOU HOME AND DO YOU NEED ASSISTANCE? SO THOSE 12 MAY GO DOWN TO TWO.

WELL NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR AN HOUR FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GET TO YOUR STREET, I CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW, GIVE IT TO POLICE OR THE SHERIFF AND THEY'RE AT YOUR HOUSE IN 3, 4, 5 MINUTES VERSUS AN HOUR.

SO IT, IT ALLOWS US MORE TARGETED APPROACH TO HELP FOLKS THAT MAY NEED ASSISTANCE EVACUATING.

BUT AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, THAT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

UM, ONE OF THE, THE, THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT RAVE THAT BOTH OF OUR COUNTIES USE THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT INFORMATION IS, IT'S NOT SOLD, IT'S NOT DISTRIBUTED.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T USE THAT INFORMATION FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LIFE SAFETY MESSAGING.

SO, UM, REALLY ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO DO THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS CHANCE MENTIONED, IT'S, IT'S A LOT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PREPAREDNESS.

UM, AND, AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU MENTIONED, DO PEOPLE EVACUATE ON SET? WELL, DO YOU NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT GONNA TAKE YOU THAT EXTRA AMOUNT OF TIME? IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT? NO.

UM, AND, AND SO REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE NEEDS OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE, UM, AND, AND CUSTOMIZING YOUR PLAN FOR WHAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE WITH YOU AND WHEN YOU'RE GONNA TAKE IT WITH YOU, UM, IS A PERSONAL DECISION THAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY THERE.

UM, BUT WE'VE GOT TOOLS THAT CAN HELP.

SO, SEDONA FIRE, JUST PUT OUT AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SAYS YOU MAY BE NOTICING A LOT OF SMOKE IN THE AREA THAT IS BEING PUSHED INTO THE CITY OF SEDONA BY THE POCKET FIRE.

PLEASE DO NOT BE ALARMED.

PER US FOREST SERVICE, COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST, WE HAVE WEATHER CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE DAY THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BEING MONITORED AND THERE'S MORE, BUT THAT'S THE BASIC MESSAGE.

AND I DID SEE THAT TOMORROW IT'S SUPPOSED TO RAIN.

IT.

YES.

RIGHT BEFORE, SO CHIEF MISSOULA, SINCE THERE WAS JUST THE EVACUATION OF THE TWO ZONES IN OAK CREEK CANYON, UM, CAN YOU SHARE ANY INITIAL INFO ABOUT THAT? I, UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT PROBABLY TOOK SOME TIME AND A LOT OF EFFORT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE WERE CAMPERS, HIKERS, RESIDENTS.

YEAH, I DON'T, AND SO WITH THAT AMOUNT, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE THE WHOLE EVACUATION OF THAT? DO YOU KNOW, TIM, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG CCSO UM, TOOK TO EVACUATE ZONES 14 AND 15 OF OAK CREEK CANYON? IT, IT, MOST OF THE EVACUATIONS WERE DONE, UH, WITHIN A MATTER OF HOURS.

IT, IT WAS QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE WERE THE VISITORS THAT WERE THERE.

UM, I DO KNOW THERE WERE A FEW FOLKS THAT WERE HIKING.

UH, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE WEST FORK AREA IS NOTORIOUS FOR NO CELL SERVICE, UH, WHICH IS A BLESSING AND A CURSE.

SO, UH, THERE WERE A FEW FOLKS THAT THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET OUT.

BUT IT WAS, OVERALL, IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY QUICK.

UP HERE IN SEDONA, WE HAVE SOME POCKETS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT, UM, HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND THEY TEND TO NOT EVACUATE.

I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FROM THE REPORT YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SEVEN STRAGGLERS, UH, VISITORS THAT, THAT MADE ITS TRAIL.

AND THEN, AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, WE'D IDENTI, WE, THEY WOULD IDENTIFY A, A VEHICLE, RUN A PLATE, TRY TO REACH OUT TO A POINT OF CONTACT, SAY, OH YEAH, WE'RE SAFE.

WE RODE WITH OUR FRIEND.

CAN WE COME GET OUR CAR? TYPE OF THING.

UM, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE, IT'S MORE PREDOMINANT IN, IN THE VERDE VALLEY, BUT

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AND WE JUST ANTICIPATE THAT NOW, UH, TYPICALLY OAK CREEK CANYON, IT'S LIKE THE BEST WEEK OF THEIR LIFE BECAUSE THEY GET THEIR CANYON BACK FOR A WEEK.

AND, UH, AND I, I HAVE NO OPINION FOR OR AGAINST THAT.

THEY, THEY HAVE LIVED IN THE AREA FOR DECADES, SOME OF 'EM ALMOST 50 YEARS.

AND, UH, THEY KNOW IT'S THEIR CANYON AND THEY KNOW IT.

AND, UH, THEY, THEY'RE WELL PREPARED.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, THE, THE LAY POPULACE THINKS, OH, EVERYBODY'S EVACUATED.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

UM, IN MANY INSTANCES, A GOOD CHUNK OF THE COMMUNITY WILL NOT EVACUATE, AND WE HAVE NO STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO MAKE THEM.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET.

SO, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE CANYON.

SO THERE WERE 400 PEOPLE EVACUATED WAS ONE OF THE, UH, JUST POSTS, I THINK I READ.

DID PEOPLE GO DOOR TO DOOR? DID THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT YES, MA'AM.

AND THEN WHEN THE SHERIFF MADE THE DECISION TO REOPEN THE CANYON FOR BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS, DID THE SHERIFF, THAT WAS ALL DONE JOINTLY? I ASSUME, I MEAN, IS THE SHERIFF'S AUTHORITY BECAUSE IT, IT'S COCONINO COUNTY UNINCORPORATED.

IT, IT, IT IS.

AND I DON'T, UH, I WANNA BE CAREFUL AND NOT SPEAK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT, IT'S, THAT IS DEFINITELY A DECISION THAT THEY DON'T MAKE IN A VACUUM.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVACUATIONS THEMSELVES OR, OR DECISIONS NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY NOR IS REENTRY.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DECISION FOR REENTRY WAS, WAS DEFINITELY MADE IN CONSULTATION WITH THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM TO KINDA LOOK AT, UH, WHAT KIND OF, UM, PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE.

YOU KNOW, WHICH WAY IS THE FIRE MOVING, WHAT'S THE, THE, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT IT COULD CHANGE? AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE FACTORS GO INTO, YOU KNOW, CAN WE REASONABLY SAY THAT IT'S SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO RETURN, EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF RISK? WHICH IS WHY, UM, THEY SAID RESIDENTS ONLY AND THEY'VE LEFT THE AREA ON SET STATUS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT OUTTA THE WOODS, NO PUN INTENDED.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S REASONABLY SAFE FOR RESIDENTS TO GO IN.

SO IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON COUNSEL ABOUT ANY, LEMME SEE IF WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION.

YES.

DISCUSSION, UM, DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION.

WE GIVE DIRECTION.

WELL DEPEND, IT DEPENDS.

, I MEAN, IF THERE'S A, I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING BACK, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU FEEL ARE, UH, PRIORITY IN YOUR MIND THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON, THAT TYPE OF FEEDBACK IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

WELL, I THOUGHT YOUR IDEA ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO WANNA VOLUNTEER TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATORS, I'LL JUST CALL IT, IS AN EXCELLENT ONE.

AND IF WE CAN GIVE THEM THE TRAINING AND THEY WANT TO, TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT, I THINK IT CAN ONLY BE HELPFUL.

AND, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT HOAS.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF HOAS, UM, AND WE HAVE AN AREAS OF COURSE, THAT ARE NOT UNDER HOAS.

SO I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU GUYS AGREE WITH THAT IDEA? WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO GET, FINISH GETTING OUR INTERNAL, UM, AND ALL OF OUR POLICY STUFF DONE AS THE PRIORITY FOR CHANCE.

AND THEN ONCE WE'VE DONE SOME TABLETOPS AND DO HAVE ALL OF THAT STUFF TAKEN CARE OF, I THINK THEN WE CAN MAYBE BE READY TO EXPAND OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION.

SO DON'T WANT TO PUT I, BUT I GUESS I'LL DEFER TO YOU ON YOUR WORKLOAD ON WHEN YOU COULD START, UM, CONSIDERING A CERT TEAM OR WHATEVER.

SURE.

THAT CERT TEAMS ARE A LARGE UNDERTAKING AND A LOT OF TRAINING OF CITIZENS AND STAFF IS INVOLVED WITH THAT.

I WILL SAY THAT IF THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE HUNGRY RIGHT NOW FOR CERT TRAINING AND THAT TYPE OF MATERIAL, THE COO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THROUGH JOHN PAXTON, THEY DO RUN A CERT TEAM THAT FOLKS ARE ABLE TO GET INVOLVED WITH.

UM, AND WE'LL LOOK FOR A YAVAPI COUNTY ALTERNATIVE AS WELL.

FOR FOLKS WHO ARE IMMEDIATELY INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'D BE GOOD TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND I THINK THEY WOULD AT SOME COMFORT OF KNOWING THAT THEY COULD GET MORE INFORMATION AND BE ACTIVE, WE'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO, TO HELP, UH, CHANCE ORGANIZE WIND

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DISASTER STRIKES.

UM, IT'S, I WOULD SAY ADJACENT, BUT RATHER THAN IT BEING TO FORMULATE A TEAM ITSELF, IT'S JUST PROVIDING THE EDUCATION TO FOLKS THAT WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT PREPAREDNESS AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE IT HOME AND, AND GO FROM THERE.

BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO HELP, UM, IN THE INTERIM.

AND WE COULD DEFINITELY HELP 'EM GET THAT.

THANK YOU, ASHLEY.

I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY I MISSED OUT ON THE, THE CERT CONVERSATION.

I HAD TO STEP OUT.

IT WAS TRAVIS MAYBERRY LET ME KNOW THAT, UH, THE HELICOPTERS ARE REPORTING A GOOD SHIFT TO WIND.

NOTHING, NOTHING CONCERNING ABOUT THE FIRE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY PUSHING THE SMOKE RIGHT BETWEEN WILSON AND COFFEE POT RIGHT INTO UPTOWN.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING THOSE REPORTS AND, AND FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

WE ATTEMPTED A CERT TEAM, UH, YEARS AGO AND IT WAS, IT WAS SIX MONTHS OF WORK AND TRAINING AND THEN ABOUT FOUR MONTHS LATER, THE INTEREST FELL OFF.

UM, AND I THINK WITH THE COMPETING PRIORITIES WITH FRIENDS OF THE FOREST AND YPI SEARCH AND RESCUE AND COCONINO SEARCH AND RESCUE AND, AND SEDONA PD VOLUNTEERS, IT'S LIKE WE USED TO HAVE AN ENTIRE DIVISION STAFF AT THE, AT THE FIRE DISTRICT TO HELP US WITH FIRE INSPECTIONS.

AND THAT THAT HAS JUST GONE AWAY.

AND, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT DISCOURAGING YOU FOLKS FROM TRYING IT, BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND WE DIDN'T YIELD A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM IT.

DEREK.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF WE DID GO DOWN THAT PATH, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE NOT A GOOD IDEA, WE WOULD NEED TO BE VERY SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO WE PUT INTO THAT.

'CAUSE I FEEL THERE'S SOME RESIDENTS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

NO, RIGHTFULLY SO.

THAT MIGHT TAKE, TAKE THIS TO AN EXTREME.

I GUESS WE, MAYBE THE WORD WORD I WOULD WOULDN'T USE, BUT, UM, I, IF WE DID DO THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW FIRST AND THEN JUST BE CAUTIOUS IN WHO WE BRING INTO ANY TYPE OF PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

WELL, EVEN ADVISING PEOPLE ABOUT OPPORTUNITY, VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH ORGANIZED, UH, GROUPS I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO SEDONA IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ZONE THEY'RE IN.

THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

EVEN THOUGH WE WERE, WE DID TRAIN A LOT OF FOLKS AND WE DID HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC, YOU WERE THERE, UH, PUBLIC OUTREACH.

THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THEY DIDN'T LIVE HERE THEN.

SO, UM, THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION IN SEPTEMBER IS FIREWISE.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND WERE WE GONNA HAVE ART ON THE SAME AGENDA OR WAS THAT NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A FARTHER ONE OUT.

THAT'S LATER.

UM, MAYBE SOMETHING ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TOO.

I, I DO THINK JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT BE CALLED INTO PLAY, LIKE, UM, SEARCH AND RESCUE AND SO FORTH IS A GOOD THING FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW SO THAT IT COULD GIVE 'EM A SENSE OF COMFORT TOO.

AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THINGS COULD PLAY OUT AND WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT.

AND THERE WOULD BE DOOR TO DOOR CONTACT OR ATTEMPTED CONTACT AND IT COULD BE, IT COULD FIT IN WELL WITH, UM, THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

ANYTHING ELSE? PETE, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? EVERYBODY WISH PETE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

BIRTHDAY.

PETE 30 AGAIN.

YES, I DID THE THIRD ONE.

TO YOUR FIRST ONE? OF COURSE.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED.

[3.b. Discussion/possible action regarding ideas for future meetings/agenda items.]

OH, A FUTURE.

DO WE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? AGENDA ITEMS? YES.

YES, YES.

I ALWAYS FORGET THAT BECAUSE I THINK A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE TO HAVE LEGAL COME BACK WITH WHAT POLICY CHANGES PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, UM, IN ORDER TO BETTER FACILITATE WHAT WE JUST HEARD.

UM, AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OR SHOULD CHANGE AND, UM, AS ANOTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT'S RELATED.

WE HAVE THE COMMUNITIES THING THAT SUSTAINABILITY DOES.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT.

THE COMMUNITY.

SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES.

AND IT FEELS LIKE THIS SOMEHOW TIES INTO THAT AS WELL.

UM, AND THE PREPAREDNESS ANGLE, IF THERE WERE, WAS A PROGRAM AND THEN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD CAN ADD INTO THAT KIND OF THING.

I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR HOW SUSTAINABILITY MIGHT COME INTO PLAY WITH THIS BECAUSE THAT IS ABOUT MAKING OUR COMMUNITY MORE, NOT JUST SUSTAINABLE, BUT RESILIENT.

SO, UM, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER INTERESTING TOPIC.

CAN I ADD SOMETHING

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JUST THE LEGAL REVIEW OF POLICIES WE MAY NEED, BUT ALSO AN UPDATE FROM CHANCE ABOUT HOW WE ARE COVERED.

'CAUSE I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE CONTRACTS AND WHERE WE WILL FALL IN THE PECKING ORDER.

SO I'D LIKE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

AND I THINK THEY'RE RELATED.

DO WE HAVE ONE MORE COUNSELOR INTERESTED TO GET THE THREE? OH, I FIGURED WE WOULD, BUT I WANTED TO.

THERE'S A LOT OF NODDING HEADS.

, WHEN WE DO IT FROM THE ES, IT'S MUCH EASIER.

MM-HMM .