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CALL THIS, UH,

[Local Public Safety Personnel Retirement Board on September 9, 2026.]

MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE SEDONA POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT BOARD.

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH.

IT IS 1:30 PM WE'LL START OUR MEETING.

UH, FIRST ACTION IS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

IF YOU'LL STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

WE GOT A FLAG HERE SOMEWHERE, DON'T WE? THERE? IT'S ALRIGHT.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OWNER AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND ALTHOUGH YOU KIND OF JUST DID IT RU LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

YES.

SO BOARD MEMBER COOPERMAN PRESENT.

VERY GOOD.

BOARD MEMBER MYLA PRESENT.

NEWLY APPOINTED BOARD MEMBER JONES PRESENT AND BOARD MEMBER FURMAN PRESENT.

EXCELLENT.

SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, SIR, AS WELL AS THE STAFF IN ATTENDANCE IS LORI YEARWOOD, OUR NEW, UH, HR REPRESENTATIVE, HOPEFULLY WILL BECOME THE BOARD SECRETARY AND MYSELF, RUSS MARTIN.

YEAH.

WELCOME LORI AND OUR TWO NEW OFFICER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WELCOME.

WELCOME.

UH, JUST SO THE RECORD IS ALSO CLEAR ALSO IN THE ROOM HERE WITH US TO START IS OFFICER CLAYTON SMITH, WHO WILL APPEAR AT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.

AND, UH, OF, UH, SERGEANT NATHAN DORFMAN IS IN THE ROOM.

SO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WE HAVE LISTED.

UH, IS THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 4, 20, 26 MINUTES.

THOSE MINUTES WERE DISTRIBUTED BY RUSS HERE IN RECENT DAYS.

UH, DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE MINUTES? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES? OKAY, GOOD.

IF NOT, I'LL ATTAIN, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, THE MINUTES OF JUNE 4TH, 2026.

THANK YOU.

COREY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SURE.

I'LL SECOND IT.

IT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OFFICER.

OFFICER JONES.

JONES.

SERGEANT JONES.

OFFICER RO.

OFFICER.

SRO.

JUDGE .

WONDERFUL.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

WERE THESE TWO O OFFICERS WITH US ON THAT MEETING? NO.

PROVIDED THE MINUTES FROM IT.

YES.

I MEAN, CAN THEY VOTE AND APPROVE THE MINUTES? OKAY, THANKS.

CHECKING ONE OF THEM NEEDS TO, SO YES, THEY KNOW .

THANK YOU.

SO THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

VERY COOL.

NEXT ITEM, OUR AGENDA IS A CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

I'M LOOKING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE AND I SEE SOME PUBLIC MEMBERS, BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU ARE NOT HERE TO COMMENT ON THE GENERAL CALL TO THE PUBLIC SEEING SHAKES OF THE HEAD.

NO.

WE WILL, UH, WE'LL KEEP AN EYE OUT.

IF ANYONE ELSE WALKS IN FROM THE PUBLIC, WE MAY REVISIT THAT ITEM, BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

SO ITEM FOUR IS A DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF OFFICER CLAYTON SMITH, TIER THREE MEMBERSHIP IN STONE POLICE DEPARTMENT PUBLIC SAFETY RETIREMENT SYSTEM AS OF NOVEMBER 15TH, 2026.

BUT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE GONNA DEFER THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UNDER ATTORNEY ADVISEMENT.

CHAIRMAN, UH, WE ARE GOING TO PUSH THAT OFF.

WE HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED.

THAT FORM WAS NOT COMPLETED CORRECTLY.

MY RESPONSIBILITY.

WE'LL FIX THAT AND THEY'LL BE UP TO THE NEXT MEETING.

GREAT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THAT? WE WILL JUST MOVE, SET THAT FOR THE FUTURE MEETING THEN.

ITEM FIVE, THE BIG ITEM FOR TODAY IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPLICATION FOR ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY RETIREMENT FOR SERGEANT NATHAN, GEORGE, RUSS, YOU WANT TO START US OFF? YEAH.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME, UH, WE MET, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, INCLUDING IN AND OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC AND GOT ADVISEMENT THROUGH.

NICK IS ALSO HERE.

AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT ANY POINT, UH, TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR ON THE VERY FRONT END.

AND THAT IS, IS SOMETHING AS WELL.

IF WE, WE TALK IN AN AREA THAT YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING IN, YOU CAN LET US KNOW AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.

UH, SO PLEASE LET US KNOW.

PLEASE RED FLAG US AS WELL.

'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO RUIN THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

BUT EFFECTIVELY YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE WE DID GET AN IME REPORT, UH, THE DOCTOR DID, AND I'VE SUPPLIED YOU WITH THAT UNDER A SEPARATE COVER.

UH, DR.

OLTAN, I THINK I'LL JUST SAY IT THAT WAY.

, UH, WAS THE IME THAT WAS SELECTED BY PAX.

AND SO P WAS A, A COMPANY THAT I CONTACTED AFTER OUR LAST MEETING.

THEY'RE A COMPANY THAT SELECTS IT.

I GAVE THEM SOME LEVEL OF CRITERIA TO SAY THAT WE WANTED SOMEONE WHO COULD ACTUALLY REVIEW HIM BASED ON THE SPECIALTY THAT WOULD ASSIST US.

UH, THAT WAS DONE BY THEM INDEPENDENTLY.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY

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SELECTION CRITERIA EXCEPT THE SOONER THE BETTER AND FIT AND FIT HIS PARTICULAR NEEDS.

THEY FULFILLED THAT.

WE GOT, UH, THE RECORDS REQUEST AS, AS YOU RECALL.

YEP.

DORFMAN HAD GIVEN ME A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION AND AS, AS THE BOARD SECRETARY, I WENT AND SOUGHT IT OUT, TOOK A LITTLE BIT TO GET IT OUTTA NAH, BUT WE DID GET IT AND ULTIMATELY SENT THAT ONTO TO PAX, WHICH GOT IT ONTO DR.

ZOLTAN WHO HAD THAT IN TIME TO REVIEW IN CONNECTION WITH THE REPORT THAT HE GAVE US.

THE REPORT THAT HE GAVE US, YOU HAVE IN HAND IS NECESSARY FOR THE IMPORTANT PIECE THAT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, NICK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS BOARD NOW HAS A, AN OPPORTUNITY IF IT WANTS TO, TO COMPLETE THE P FIVE FORM AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY A SRS 38 84, 1 38 84 4 AND 38 8 45, WHICH IS AN ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY CLAIM.

AND WE HAVE EIGHT QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER.

AND SIR, I'M GONNA KIND OF TURN IT TO YOU AND LET THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU TELL 'EM WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE AND HOW THEY MAY WANT TO PROCEED, UH, FROM HERE WITH THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE.

YEP.

BEFORE YOU START, NICK, SO BEFORE YOU START, I DO WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT THE, UH, THE, THE DOCTOR THAT WAS PROVIDED SELECTED FOR THE IME IS A BOARD CERTIFIED ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON, WHICH WAS PART OF THE BOARD'S REQUEST THAT WE HAVE THAT THANK YOU SPECIALTY ON BOARD.

SO THANK YOU.

YES, NICK.

PERFECT.

I THINK THAT IS CORRECT.

UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE, UH, REQUIREMENT OF THE STATUTE IS THAT THE IME DOCTOR BE A PHYSICIAN.

UH, AND THAT IS THE CASE HERE.

DR.

ZOLTAN, I'VE SEEN HIS NAME ON OTHER DOCUMENTS, UM, IS IN FACT, SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT ELEMENT OF THE STATUTE.

IF THE BOARD INTENDS TO DISCUSS THE REPORT, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SERGEANT DORFMAN CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CLARIFY IT.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE REVIEWED THIS DOCUMENT, UH, UH, I THINK IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT RAISED QUESTIONS IN MY MIND, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS A, A PROCESS THAT IS NEW TO SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS TODAY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE DO HAVE THE PROVISION TO DO SO ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON THE AGENDA.

THE BOARD WOULD DO THAT BY MEANS OF A MOTION, A SECOND AND A VOTE ON THE RECORD IN OPEN MEETING, GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, TURN OFF THE RECORDING, RESTART THE RECORDING SO THAT IT'S SEPARATED, AND UH, THEN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE IME.

I HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE THE APPLICANT AND THE BOARD AGREED TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN OPEN MEETING.

THAT IS POSSIBLE TO DO.

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT I THINK THAT'S BETTER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE APPLICANT CAN WAIVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION REQUIREMENT FOR DISCUSSION OF THE REPORT.

UH, THAT ALWAYS MAKES ME ANXIOUS.

SO JUST SAYING IT IS A POSSIBILITY IT CAN'T BE DONE.

IF THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS THEY WANT TO ADDRESS TO SERGEANT DORFMAN, THAT CAN BE DONE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BY BRINGING HIM IN.

AND I GIVE THE ADMONISHMENT AND EVERYBODY GETS IT.

IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY BASED ON THE REPORT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT AFTER WE RECEIVED THE REPORT AND IT WAS FORWARDED TO BOARD MEMBERS, IT WAS ALSO SENT TO SERGEANT DORFMAN AND TO HIS COUNSEL.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO THEY RECEIVED IT THE SAME TIME OR AFTER.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEND IT BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO THE BOARD, BUT MR. MARTIN CONFIRMED TO ME THAT IT WAS GOING OUT TO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

AND ON THAT BASIS, I ALSO FORWARDED IT TO MR. DORFMAN'S LAWYER.

I THINK RUSS, YOU SENT IT TO MR. DORFMAN OR STRIKE THAT SERGEANT DORFMAN DIRECTLY.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

YES, YES.

OKAY.

SO JUST SO THE BOARD, ALL OF THAT, I JUST WANTED TO GET OUT ON THE RECORD AND THERE WE ARE.

I WOULD, UH, I DO HAVE ONE REMAINING QUESTION THAT I FEEL I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE ATTORNEY ABOUT THE REPORT.

AND I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I HAVE, UM, I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS, SO, OKAY.

SO I, I WOULD CONCUR.

OKAY.

SO I AM, WITHOUT MY, UH, CHEAT SHEET ON A, A CONVENING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR US TO CONVENE, UH, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE A RS SECTION, WHICH ALLOWS US TO GET LEGAL ADVICE.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND THE, IS THAT ENOUGH NICK? OR DO I NEED TO BE

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MORE THAT IT IS SUFFICIENT.

GREAT.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND THAT.

GREAT.

AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THAT.

ANY ALL IN, UH, ALL THAT WISH TO CONVENE EXECUTIVE SESSION? SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

WE HAVE THREE.

WE HAVE FOUR UNANIMOUS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL CONVENE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'RE GONNA ASK BOTH OF YOU TO STEP OUT.

YOU CAN WAIT IN THE WAITING ROOM NEXT DOOR.

UH, WE'LL LOCK THE DOOR AND THEN WE'LL CONVENE.

WE'LL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S AT 1:40 PM AT 1:40 PM ALWAYS GOOD TO NOTE THE TIME THAT IT GOES INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

GREAT.

AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS STEP OUT IF, UH, A BOARD NEEDS SERGEANT DOMAN WILL COME AND GET HIM AND BRING 'EM BACK.

I REMEMBER, UH, IN MY DAYS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY APPLIED TO BE AN ASTRONAUT ONE DAY, BUT I FOLLOWED NASA'S CASE PLUG.

SO I'M GONNA STOP THE RECORDING NOW.

OPEN SESSION TWO TEN SIX.

ALRIGHT, SO WE CONCLUDED A LEGAL DISCUSSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY.

WE'RE BACK INTO OPEN SESSION CONSIDERING THE, UH, UH, APPLICATION FOR ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY RETIREMENT FOR SERGEANT NATHAN DORFMAN.

UM, DOES ANY OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC? I THINK NOT.

NOT UNTIL NATE.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UH, AND COREY, ARE YOU IN A SPOT TO MAKE A MOTION? I, I CAN DO THAT.

GREAT.

UHHUH, I, I MOVE, I, I MOVE.

UM, THAT, UH, THAT, UH, WE ACCEPT, UH, AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY RETIREMENT MADE BY SERGEANT NATHAN DORFMAN FILED ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2026.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND THAT RUS, DID YOU GET A MYLA A SECOND? YEP.

I SECOND THAT.

SURE.

WE'LL GIVE MYLA CREDIT FOR THAT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE IIII WOULD WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE, UH, REVIEWED THE IME REPORT.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, AND ARE, UH, IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, THAT IT'S A WELL WRITTEN REPORT AND, UH, IT SUPPORTS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE APPLICATION FOR SERGEANT DOMAN.

GREAT.

WITH THE BOTH ON THE WEIGHT OF THE MEDICAL RECORDS SUBMITTED AND OF THE AUGUST 7TH, 2026 IME REPORT.

ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? GO AHEAD.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

ALRIGHT, SO THEN OUR NEXT TASK IS TO COMPLETE THE, UH, IME FIVE OR THAT FORM P FIVE LBA.

SO LET'S GO THROUGH, DID THE EMPLOYEE FILE THE APPLICATION AFTER THE DISABLING INCIDENT OR WITHIN ONE YEAR OF BEING AN EMPLOYEE? I THINK THAT ANSWER IS YES.

WHO'S GONNA FILE? ARE YOU GONNA DO THE OFFICIAL FORM? WELL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PRINT IT OUT FOR, WELL, YOU GOT, I DON'T KNOW.

I GOT IT.

IF THERE'S A BETTER PRINTOUT THAN THAT, HONESTLY, THAT'S THE SAD PART OF THE LIFE THAT EXISTS IN SCANNING.

ALRIGHT, LET'S DO, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND FILL IT AS YOU GO.

OKAY.

YES, BECAUSE YOU, YOU CAN SIGN IT.

YOU DON'T NEED ME THIS ANSWER.

ALRIGHT.

QUESTION TWO.

DID OR WILL THE EMPLOYEE TERMINATE BY THE REASONABLE DISABILITY? WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION IS YES.

DID THE EMPLOYMENT TERMINATE BASED ON THE DISCIPLINARY ISSUE? WE HAVE NO RECORD OF THAT.

THAT ANSWER IS NO.

IF THE MEMBER'S PERIOD OF DROP, THIS IS AN NA, CAN I JUST PUT NA IN THE BLOCK AND NOT CHECK YES OR NO? NA WOULD BE FINE.

GREAT.

YEAH.

QUESTION FIVE.

IS THE EMPLOYEE STILL WORKING A POSITION WITHIN THEIR, WITHIN THEIR JOB CLASSIFICATION THAT THE LOCAL BOARD CONSIDERS A REASONABLE RANGE OF DUTIES? OFFICER GOFFMAN IS NOT WORKING AS A POLICE OFFICER RIGHT NOW AND ON LIGHT DUTY.

SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS NO.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

HAS THE EMPLOYEE QUESTION SIX REFUSED A POSITION WITHIN THEIR JOB CLASSIFICATION THAT THE LOCAL BOARD CONSIDERS A REASONABLE RANGE OF DUTY? WE HAVE NO RECORD OF THAT.

THAT ANSWER IS NO.

NUMBER SEVEN.

DID THE INJURY OR CONDITION OCCUR PRIOR TO THE CURRENT P-S-P-R-S MEMBERSHIP DATE? THAT ANSWER IS NO.

WAS THE INJURY OR CONDITION THE RESULT OF AN EVENT

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INCURRED DURING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE EMPLOYEE'S DUTY? THE RECORD IS CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

THE ANSWER IS YES.

SERGEANT GEORGE, IS THERE ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH? NO SIR.

BOARD MEMBERS, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, NO QUESTION.

THEN I THINK THAT I WILL SIGN, PRINT THE NAME AND SIGN AND TODAY IS THE NINTH.

NINE NINE OF SIX.

NINE NINE.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT IS DONE.

THANK YOU NICK.

I'LL JUST SAY ON THE RECORD THAT UH, THE AGENCY SHOULD PUT TOGETHER THE P FIVE, THE IME AND THE OTHER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS THAT IT'S RECEIVED SO THAT THE SUBMISSION CAN BE SENT TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE P-S-P-R-S.

SO THEY'LL GET THAT COMPLETE SET OF DOCUMENTS.

SO THEY'LL HAVE ALL OF THE SUPPORTING RECORD.

UH, THEY ALSO REQUIRE, UH, OFTEN I'VE SEEN SENDING A COPY OF THE MINUTES AND THE ACTUAL RECORDING OF THE OPEN MEETING, NOT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, THEY MAY ASK FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION RECORDING.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S KEPT CONFIDENTIAL BY THEM, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SEND THEM THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S WHY START, STOP, START, STOP.

SO THAT YOU CAN JUST PARSE OUT THE PIECE FOR OPEN MEETING AS OPPOSED TO YEP.

WONDERFUL EXEC SESSION.

GREAT, NICK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, UH, TO US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SERGEANT DORFMAN, I WANNA THANK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND PROBABLY THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.

WE'RE SADDENED AT THE LOSS OF A GOOD OFFICER AND UH, WE WISH YOU WELL INTO THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, WELL IT'S ADJOURNMENT BUT I'M GONNA SAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ITEMS AND DATES AND SCHEDULE.

YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE TRAINING THAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

I, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO WHETHER WE ARE STILL SEARCHING OR WILL BE SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER IN THAT TRANSITION.

SO I'LL LET YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WHILE I DO SAY IF WE CAN, I AM ASSUMING THAT IF I CAN GET HIM SCHEDULED FOR THE LOCAL DOC PROBABLY WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS, SAY AT LEAST BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, IF THERE'S A CHANCE WE COULD MEET IN OCTOBER, WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK CORY OR OTHERWISE YOU GUYS ARE.

WHAT'S YOUR SCHEDULES NOW? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU JUST KINDA SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT.

RIGHT? I'LL BE SWITCHING WORKING TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NOW.

TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

AND YOUR DAYS GENERALLY.

SO OUR GUYS ARE AVAILABLE.

SO NOW IT'S MORE A MATTER OF THE AVAILABILITY OF Y'ALL.

IS THERE A DAY OF THE WEEK? I KNOW TRYING TO AVOID MAYBE A COUNCIL WEEK, BUT IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY QUICK MEETING.

SO DUE TO THE TRAGIC ACCIDENTS IN MY FAMILY, MY AVAILABILITY IS SOMEWHAT LIMITED.

OKAY.

UM, I AM OFFICIALLY CHAIR TILL THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

UM, COUNSEL, NO, NOTIONALLY DOES NOT, UH, APPOINT THE NEW ROLES UNTIL JANUARY.

SO I IMAGINE THAT THE NEW MAYOR WILL BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD UNTIL WE GET A CHANCE.

THAT'S BY STATUTE.

YEAH.

UNTIL THE UM, NEW COUNCIL DESIGNATES THE BOARD MEMBERSHIP, I AM GOING TO UM, EXPRESS MY DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE ON P-S-P-R-S AND TO ASSUME ONE OF THE PUBLIC FACING ROLES OF WHICH ONE WE HAVE AN OPENING.

COREY, YOU HAVE ASKED.

YES.

YEAH, AT THE START OF THE YEAR WE FIND ANOTHER.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE THE SEARCH.

STILL SEARCH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND SO LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, I SEE THAT I AM TO RETURN TO ATLANTA ON OCTOBER NINE.

SO IF WE CAN GET A MEETING SET BEFORE OCTOBER NINE WOULD BE I THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE.

YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE BEST.

YEAH.

AND LIKELY WOULD BE THE ONLY MEETING WE'D HAVE THROUGH THE END OF THAT YEAR, OF THIS YEAR.

AND SO THEN WHEN ALL OF THAT OTHER FORMALITY COMES, THEN AT THAT POINT WE CAN HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO RECRUIT ACCORDINGLY AND, AND RE RE-UP OUR EFFORTS FOR THAT JANUARY LIKELY.

UM, AND I SAY JANUARY LIKELY IT WOULD BE PROBABLY 'CAUSE THE CANDIDATES ARE GONNA COMPLETE THEIR DEAL IN DECEMBER.

RIGHT.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO ACCEPT THEM AND THEIR MEMBERSHIPS SOMETIME IN, AT LEAST BY FEBRUARY, BUT BASICALLY JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

AND THAT WOULD BE

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THE REASON FOR THAT MEETING.

SO DECEMBER 7TH, WHEN YOU GRADUATE DECEMBER, DECEMBER 7TH, THE GRADUATES FOR THE GRADUATES.

SO SOMEWHERE THERE.

YEAH.

SO AGAIN, THEY BECOME OFFICERS DECEMBER 8TH AND THEN WE GOT 90 DAYS TO PULL THEM IN AS WELL.

SO AT, AT ANY RATE, THAT'S HOW THAT LAST OR THAT NEXT ONE WOULD BE SCHEDULED AFTER THAT.

I WILL WORK WITH BEFORE THE NINTH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DAYS? OCTOBER 6TH CAN OCTOBER 6TH WORK.

WHAT MEETING IS THAT? TUESDAY.

A TUESDAY.

OKAY.

SO I'M AWARE THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

AND I SHOULD MENTION FOR THE RECORD, WHILE YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING, THAT UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP AGAIN REGARDING SERGEANT DORFMAN, I WILL PROBABLY NOT BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND.

I THINK MATTERS WILL REVERT TO, UH, ONGOING COUNSEL FOR THE BOARD.

YEP.

BUT I, I THINK I'LL STAY, UH, ACTIVE UNDER THE CONTRACT UNTIL WE HAVE AN APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SO THAT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION OR FOLLOW UP, I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

ONCE UH, THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED NOTIFICATION REGARDING THE TRUSTEE'S FINDINGS IN THIS MATTER, JUST NOTIFY ME BY AN EMAIL AND I'LL, I DID SEND AN INVOICE UP, UH, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A FEW DAYS AGO OR OVER THE WEEKEND OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

SO THAT MAY BE SITTING IN AN INBOX SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT OBVIOUSLY.

BUT IF, UH, IF SOMETHING ELSE ARISES, I'LL PUT TOGETHER A FINAL INVOICE AND WE'LL CLOSE IT OUT AND THAT WILL BE IT.

AND IT IS MY HONOR TO HAVE ASSISTED YOU ALL IN THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH NICK.

APPRECIATE YOUR AVAILABILITY FOR US.

SO SIXTH, WE HAVE A TIME THAT WE WANT TO, SO WHEN DO YOU CLEAR THE SCHOOL? UH, USUALLY IT'S LATER IN THE DAY ABOUT THE LAST SCHOOL GETS OUT ABOUT THREE 30.

IS THAT ABOUT GOOD TIME? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

COREY, DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU ON A TUESDAY? YEAH, THAT WORKS.

UM, I, YEAH, YOU COULD CALL IN AS WELL.

I CAN PICK MY GRANDSON UP BEFORE THEN AND GET HIM HOME AND WE CAN MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I THINK THREE 30 I CAN GET HERE BY THAT.

MORE THAN WELCOME TO JOIN US.

CAN BEGIN AS CIVIC EDUCATION.

BE THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S RIGHT.

BE PUBLIC.

THEN ALSO ON THE, THAT OCTOBER 6TH AGENDA, LET'S APPOINT LORI.

YES.

UM, I, I I THINK THAT'S IT.

I DON'T THINK, YEAH.

AND WE HAVE OFFICER SMITH AND THEN OFFICER AND THAT'S WITHIN THE TIMING SIX BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NOVEMBER 17TH OR LIKE, HE STARTED AUGUST 17TH.

SO.

GREAT.

WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU GUYS? COREY, I DO WANNA BRING UP ONE THING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, UM, WE DO HAVE AN OFFICER HERE THAT ACCIDENTALLY PUT INTO THE WRONG P-S-P-R-S PLAN.

SO HE IS LOSING A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW OUT OF HIS PAYCHECK.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING HE CAN PICK SOME CONVERSATION? I DUNNO.

OKAY.

IT'S LIKE, IT'S A LEARNING, UH, EXERCISE FOR LEARNING OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY.

.

YEAH.

NO, AND THAT'S PRETTY NICK, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OFFHAND? SORRY, YOU WERE BREAKING UP A LITTLE.

COULD YOU SAY AGAIN ABOUT PSPR IF, IF AN OFFICER JOINED US AND PUT IN FOR A, THE WRONG P-S-P-R-S PLAN WANTS TO CHANGE, IS THAT POSSIBLE? DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, IT IS.

BASICALLY THE PLAN IS A FUNCTION OF THE DATE OF THE EMPLOYEES HIRED, WHETHER THEY'RE TIER ONE, TIER TWO, OR TIER THREE THAT REALLY DRIVES IT.

I'VE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY HAS LEFT AND COME BACK AND THEY'RE NOT BACK IN THE SAME TIER.

'CAUSE THE CRITERIA IS BASED ON WHEN YOU COME ON.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN POLICE, BUT I HAVE SEEN IT IN FIRE WHERE SOMEBODY LEAVES, THEY DO SOMETHING ELSE, THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY'RE NO LONGER TIER ONE.

NOW THEY'RE TIER THREE AND AREN'T THEY TIER THREE? 'CAUSE THEY'RE A RECENT HIRE.

THERE'S REALLY NO CHOICE.

IS IT? I THINK HE'S TIER THREE.

YEAH.

WELL THERE'S A DEFINED CONTRIBUTION AND DEFINED BENEFIT POLICY.

AH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

THAT'S, YEAH.

WE'LL GET THERE.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET THERE.

AND NEW, NEW HIRES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR DROP FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT? FOR THE DELAYED RETIREMENT PROGRAM THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO NEW.

SO, UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE BOARD REQUIRES OF ME, I'M GONNA RING OFF.

THAT SOUNDS FAIR.

I THINK I'M GONNA, WITHOUT OBJECTION, CALL FOR AN ADJOURNMENT OF OUR MEETING AT 2 23 IN THE AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NICK.

GREAT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

WELCOME MY BOARD CLOSE WITH YOU.

LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING.

HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED AS WE.

NICE, LAURIE.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL STOP THE.