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OKAY.[1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE/MOMENT OF SILENCE]
CITY OF SEDONA CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, 2026 AT 4:33 PM UH, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU, OH, PLEASE, UH, DO THE PLEDGE OF ALL ALLEGIANCE WITH ME.PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MAYOR PLU HERE, VICE MAYOR FOLTZ.
HERE, COUNCILOR FURMAN EXCUSED.
[3.a. AB 3381 Discussion/presentation of an emergency response tabletop exercise to familiarize city council, department heads, and partners, on their roles within the Incident Command System during emergency operations.]
OKAY.TODAY WE HAVE SPECIAL BUSINESS AB 33 61 DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION OF AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TABLETOP EXERCISE TO FAMILIARIZE CITY COUNCIL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND PARTNERS ON THEIR ROLES WITHIN THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM DURING EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.
SO WHO AM I TURNING THIS OVER TO? CHANCE, OR? ALL RIGHT.
CHANCE WARNOCK, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
IF I'M UNFAMILIAR TO ANYONE IN THE ROOM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S ANYONE.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A EMERGENCY RESPONSE TABLETOP EXERCISE, UM, AS THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT, AND WE'LL GET INTO WHAT THAT IS, TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THIS SCENARIO.
BUT FIRST I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, WE DO HAVE SOME CHIPS UP HERE.
FEEL FREE TO GET UP AT ANY TIME, GET A SNACK.
WE HAVE DRINKS AS WELL IN THE COOLER.
JAMILA, DO YOU WANT TO BRING THE EASEL UP HERE TO THE FRONT? GREAT.
SO YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THIS IS GONNA BE PRIMARILY A WINNER FOCUSED TABLETOP EXERCISE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT A TABLETOP IS, BUT I LIKE TO START.
I LIKE TO START ALL OF THE TABLETOP EXERCISES THAT I DO, AND WE'VE DONE A COUPLE WITH THE CITY ALREADY.
WE'VE DONE ONE WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE'VE DONE ONE WITH PD STAFF.
JUST HIGHLIGHT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
SO I LOVE THIS QUOTE FROM SUN ZU.
STRATEGY WITHOUT TACTICS IS THE SLOWEST ROUTE TO VICTORY.
BUT TACTICS WITHOUT STRATEGY IS A NOISE BEFORE DEFEAT.
SUN PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT HE PROBABLY DID KNOW A LOT ABOUT BEING SUCCESSFUL IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TACTICS, THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN OUR DAY TO DAY, WHETHER THAT'S PATROLLING, DRAFTING A PRESS RELEASE, PASSING A RESOLUTION, IT'S WHAT WE DO IN OUR JOB FUNCTION.
BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT STRATEGY THAT'S TAKING A STEP BACK FROM THE SITUATION, LOOKING AT IT AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO ADDRESS A WIDE, UH, RANGING PROBLEM.
I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD A TABLETOP EXERCISE FOR PD FOLKS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ACTUALLY CENTERED AROUND A WILDFIRE SCENARIO.
AND AS WE KNOW, THE POCKET FIRE CAME TO PASS IN JUNE.
UH, I'M FINGERS CROSSED HERE THAT THIS SCENARIO DOESN'T COME TO PASS THIS WINTER, BUT NO GUARANTEES.
AND WE'RE PRACTICING STRATEGY TO PREPARE US FOR OUR POTENTIAL WORST DAY.
SO THERE IS AN ACRONYM LIST AND SOME OF THESE, UH, HANDOUTS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE, IF AT ANY POINT THERE'S AN ACRONYM OR I SAY SOMETHING AND IT'S JUST NOT A CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
WE'LL TAKE A QUICK PAUSE, WE'LL JUST EXPLAIN IT SO WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING ON WITH THE EXERCISE.
I'VE BEEN TOLD I CAN BE A LITTLE ACRONYM HEAVY AT TIMES.
UM, SO DON'T HESITATE TO TO JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL GET THAT ADDRESSED.
I KNOW ALL THE COPS IN THE ROOM HAVE A TON OF JARGON THAT THEY USE IN THEIR DAY TO DAY.
WE'RE JUST GONNA TRY TO STICK TO PLAIN LANGUAGE HERE, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO WHAT IS A TABLETOP EXERCISE? WHO HERE HAS BEEN TO A TABLETOP EXERCISE BEFORE? OKAY, ALMOST EVERY HAND IN THE ROOM.
PROBABLY 'CAUSE I PUT IT ON FOR YOU FOR SOME OF THE PD FOLKS.
UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH A SCENARIO.
WE'RE GONNA BRAINSTORM AND WE'RE GONNA TACKLE PROBLEMS THAT CONFRONT US.
SO IT'S AN OPEN, LOW STRESS, NO FAULT ENVIRONMENT.
WE'RE GONNA TALK THROUGH DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND DISAGREEMENTS.
THEY'RE WELCOME 'CAUSE HOW DO WE CHALLENGE AN ISSUE? YOU HAVE TO COME AT IT FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES, RESPOND TO THE SCENARIO USING YOUR CURRENT KNOWLEDGE OF PLANS, EXISTING ASSETS, CAPABILITIES, AND DISCUSS AND PRESENT MULTIPLE OPTIONS AND PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS.
SO SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDED
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ACTIONS.HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM IS THE FOCUS HERE.
AND WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH IT ONE STEP OF THE PROBLEM AT A TIME.
SO YOU DO, SOME OF YOU FEEL FREE TO SHARE WITH A FRIEND.
HAVE A FULL COPY OF THE EXERCISE IN FRONT OF YOU.
LET'S JUST TRY TO TACKLE IT ONE PAGE AT A TIME.
SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES WE HAVE FOR THIS TABLETOP RESIDENT VISITOR AND EMPLOYEE LIFE SAFETY.
WHENEVER WE AT THE, UH, AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARE AT THE PD DRAFT AND INCIDENT ACTION PLAN LIKE WE DID FOR THE POCKET FIRE, LIKE WE DO FOR SOME OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, LIFE SAFETY IS ALWAYS THE NUMBER ONE OBJECTIVE ON THERE.
WE'RE GONNA COORDINATE EFFICIENTLY WITHIN THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.
SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND PD STAFF HAVE HAD TRAINING ON ICS INCIDENT COMMAND.
WE'RE GONNA EXPLORE THAT HERE.
WE'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE HORIZONTALLY AND VERTICALLY.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DISSEMINATING INFORMATION BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.
AND THEN HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE BOTH CALLING PLAYS FROM THE SAME PLAYBOOK ESSENTIALLY.
AND THAT REALLY TIES INTO SHARED SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US AROUND THE SITUATION.
UH, I'VE WORKED IN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTERS BEFORE WHERE ONE SECTION OF THE CENTER KIND OF JUST GOES ROGUE AND DOES ITS OWN THING AND IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL.
THEY MIGHT BE DOING IT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON OPERATING PICTURE, A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON, EVENTUALLY THAT WILL TURN BACK ON US AND IT WILL BITE US.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO AVOID.
CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS, RIGHT? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL FULFILLING OUR DUTIES AS A GOVERNMENT DURING AN EMERGENCY? HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO DO, WHAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE DOING, WHAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOING, AND THEN WHAT WE CAN MAYBE DELAY UNTIL THE EMERGENCY IS OVER.
AND THEN CHOOSE YOUR OWN OBJECTIVE.
THINK ABOUT YOUR ROLE WITH THE CITY.
THINK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU DURING SOME KIND OF DISASTER OR EMERGENCY.
SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PHASES, WHAT A DISASTER LOOKS LIKE BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER.
AND WE'LL GET TO THE SCENARIO IN JUST A SECOND, BUT WHAT TRAINING IS WHAT THIS TABLETOP EXERCISE IS.
IT'S PREPAREDNESS, IT'S THE TRAINING WE DO BEFORE A DISASTER OCCURS.
SO WE'RE BETTER PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT.
AND WE TRAIN, RESPOND AND IMPROVE.
THAT'S A CONTINUOUS CYCLE THAT HAPPENS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
HAPPENS AT THE PD, HAPPENS IN ASPECTS OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THIS SITUATION AND THEN EVENTUALLY HOW WE CAN IMPROVE AND RESPOND AFTER.
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT TABLETOP EXERCISES BEFORE WE GET INTO IT? AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I'LL BRING YOU TO THE MICROPHONE.
I'M JUST GONNA ASK, IS IT OKAY IF I ASK MY TEAM TO COME OVER AND SIT AND WATCH? I THINK THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
AND ANYONE, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S FOLKS WHO BENEFIT FROM THIS, FEEL FREE TO BRING 'EM ON OVER.
SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR SCENARIO JUST HERE IN A SECOND, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO BELIEVE, AND THE REASON I DO THAT IT'S COMMON FOR FOLKS IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO KIND OF MAKE UNWINNABLE SCENARIOS, UM, IN THEIR EXERCISES.
THE, UH, MARTIANS INVADE AN EARTHQUAKE AND A FLOOD ALL HAPPENS ON THE SAME DAY.
AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO IN THAT SITUATION.
AND I, I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT DEMORALIZING.
SO I'M A BIG FAN OF GENERALLY REALISTIC SCENARIOS THAT ARE GONNA END UP HAVING ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS.
AND THAT'S HOW THIS IS DRAFTED.
BUT YOU MAY SEE SOMETHING IN HERE THAT AT FIRST GLANCE YOU THINK, WELL THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN OR I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.
AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU IN THAT MOMENT WHEN YOU START SAYING THAT JUST TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE SAKE OF THE EXERCISE, WHO WANTS TO SAY I BELIEVE? THERE YOU GO.
AND JAMILA WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.
JUST SOME HIGH LEVEL THOUGHTS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
IT'S IN A FEW MONTHS HERE, JANUARY 14TH, 2027.
THESE ARE THE EXPECTED WEATHER CONDITIONS FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
IT'S BELOW FREEZING 3000 FOOT SNOW LEVEL.
SO PRETTY LOW ELEVATION FOR SNOW.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE 25 TO 30 MILE PER HOUR WINDS, ROUGHLY A TWO TO THREE DAY EVENT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THEY HAVE FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THROUGHOUT THE EVENT.
SO OVERALL, NOT A VERY GOOD DAY.
UH, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A DAY THAT'S POSSIBLE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, RIGHT? IF YOU'VE WORKED IN THIS AREA LONG ENOUGH, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A DAY LIKE THIS.
SO WHAT DOES THE STATE LOOK LIKE WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN? PULSE CHECK AROUND THE STATE.
CONSIDER OURSELVES 24 HOURS OUT FROM THIS
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IMPACTING US AND HITTING US.SO THE STATE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, THE SEOC THAT'S DOWN IN PHOENIX, TYPICALLY FOR AN EVENT LIKE THIS, THEY WOULD ACTIVATE, BUT KIND OF AT A MONITORING LEVEL, THEY'RE GONNA BRING FOLKS IN, THEY'RE GONNA SIT 'EM DOWN THE EOC AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA LOOK AT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
TYPICALLY THE STATE ONLY FULLY ACTIVATES FOR SOMETHING ONCE THE IMPACTS HAVE ACTUALLY OCCURRED.
SO ONCE A CATASTROPHIC FLOOD HAPPENS, ONCE A CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE HAPPENS, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN THE STATE GETS ROLLING.
AND A LOT OF THAT RELIES UPON DISASTER DECLARATIONS.
SO THE YAVAPAI COUNTY EOC AND THE COCONINO COUNTY EOC, OUR COUNTY EOCS, BOTH OF THEM TYPICALLY WILL JUST FULLY ACTIVATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UH, THEY HAVE A LARGE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA, A LOT OF SPACE THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
SO IT'S TYPICALLY FAIRLY LIKELY THAT SOMEWHERE INSIDE OF THEIR JURISDICTION THEY'LL SEE SOME KIND OF IMPACTS.
WHAT WOULD WE DO AT THE SEDONA EOC? WELL IF WE KNOW THIS IS COMING IN, THIS IS PROBABLY A RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD MAKE WORKING WITH EITHER THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
AND WE'D PROBABLY LIKE TO AT LEAST STAND UP OUR EOC IN A MONITORING CAPACITY.
AND THAT WOULD AT LEAST INCLUDE FOLKS FROM THE PD, MAYBE FROM SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
AND THEN IF WE CONTINUE TO SEE IMPACTS, UM, WE COULD MAKE THAT A-F-E-O-C ACTIVATION, BRING PEOPLE IN.
IT'S TYPICALLY A LOT EASIER TO STAND UP THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THEN KIND OF DEMOBILIZE IT IF THINGS END UP BEING LACKLUSTER AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO GET THAT RAMPED UP.
UM, ONCE THE IMPACTS HAVE BEEN TOO LARGE FOR US TO OVERCOME.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN EVENT LIKE THIS, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
WHAT ARE WE THINKING ABOUT BEFORE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS? WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF LIMITED ACCESS, RIGHT? ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE.
SOME AREAS AREN'T GREAT, EASILY IMPACTED BY EVEN SMALL, SMALL EVENTS.
ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER? ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE CELL PHONES? ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE RADIOS, EMAILS, THAT DEPENDS.
BACKUP GENERATORS AND SUSTAINMENT.
ARE WE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO AUXILIARY POWER? WHAT IF THE POWER LINES ARE IMPACTED? MODIFIED STAFFING, IF WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE VERY BAD CONDITIONS, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT STAFFING AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL? AND THEN, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT.
SO WHAT ARE SOME OTHER POTENTIAL IMPACTS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION? FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND IF NOBODY RAISES THEIR HAND.
I'M JUST GONNA WALK UP TO SOMEBODY AND GIVE 'EM THE MICROPHONE.
SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT LIKE, YOU KNOW, BACKUP GENERATORS, SUSTAINMENT, MODIFIED STAFFING AND CONTINUITY, I'M THINKING DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR WHO HAS TO BE HERE VERSUS WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HERE? AND WE SHOULD.
AND THEN WE SHOULD BE TELLING PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMUTING IN, WHO DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE DURING A SNOW EVENT NOT TO COME IN.
BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T NEED ARE PEOPLE RISKING GETTING IN ACCIDENTS AND POSSIBLY CAUSING MORE ISSUES ON THE ROADS.
IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR I, I DON'T KNOW, SOME, SOMEBODY WHOSE ROLE WOULD NOT BE RELEVANT TO THE EMERGENCY.
SO I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND SAY IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DESIGNATED WHO NEED TO BE HERE, YOU'RE ALSO GONNA NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE HOUSED BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DON'T LIVE IN SEDONA.
AND EVEN IF THEY LIVE IN SEDONA, IF YOU HAVE ROAD ISSUES AND YOU WANT THEM HERE, THEN BECAUSE COMMUNICATIONS COULD BE IFFY, THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE IN PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER.
SO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE PEOPLE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YOU GOT ONE? I'M JUST HOLDING THE MICROPHONE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN, UM, DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE IN THE EOC, BUT WITH THE SNOW EVENT COMING, YOU DID NOT MENTION PUBLIC WORKS.
SHOULDN'T THEY BE A PART OF THAT SO THAT YOU COULD START PLANNING LIKE TREATING ROSE AND MAKING SURE BRITAIN IS READY TO ROLL AND ABSOLUTELY.
FOR AN EVENT LIKE THIS, WE WOULD PULL IN PUBLIC WORKS REPRESENTATIVE INTO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
IT IS JUST GONNA BE SITUATION DEPENDENT, RIGHT? SO, UM, FOR A SNOW EVENT, FOR A FLOOD EVENT, ABSOLUTELY PUBLIC WORKS, BUT MAYBE FOR A DIFFERENT SITUATION, MAYBE IT'S MORE COMMUNICATIONS DRIVEN, RIGHT? THERE'S A BIG PUBLIC INFORMATION COMPONENT AND THERE TYPICALLY IS IN A LOT OF DISASTERS AND EMERGENCIES.
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FLEXIBLE.WE CAN BRING IN WHO WE NEED, UM, AND AS LARGE OF AN ORGANIZATION AS WE NEED TO.
SO WE'LL BUILD OUT THE EOC TO ADDRESS WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
BUT ABSOLUTELY PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE INVOLVED LIMITED TO CITY, UM, OPERATIONS OR CITY STAFFING.
UM, THE DATE YOU 14TH A THURSDAY, YOU COMING THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE SOME KIND REPRESENTATION FROM THE CHAMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE, IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION TO CLIENTS COMING UP.
UM, SOME KIND OF, NOT JUST CITY REPRESENTATION AND I DUNNO IF THAT'S NORMALLY CONSIDERED OR IF COMMUNICATION OR, SO THAT'S A GREAT CONSIDERATION AND IT DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON THE INCIDENT.
I THINK COMMUNICATIONS ARE OUR PIO SECTION AT A MINIMUM, UM, WOULD BE TACKLING SOME OF THAT.
BUT I THINK IF THE INCIDENT'S LARGE ENOUGH, WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD PULL A REPRESENTATIVE INTO OUR EOC FOR THAT ASK, UM, REGARDING THAT.
SO, UM, WOULD IT BE TYPICAL THAT IF YAVAPAI AND COCONINO COUNTIES DO HAVE THEIR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LIAISON FROM THE CITY IN THEIR CENTERS? OR DOES THAT HAPPEN VIRTUALLY? IT COULD HAPPEN VIRTUALLY.
UH, IT WOULD ALSO BE COMMON THAT THEY SEND A LIAISON TO US RATHER THAN THE CITY SENDING THE LIAISON OUT.
AND JUST FOR MY TEAM, WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE ACTIVATING OURSELVES SO WE COULD PRE-PRO PRODUCEE THE MESSAGING AND STUFF SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TRY TO DO IT IN THE MOMENT AND GET, GET ALL OF OUR STUFF READY SO THE PUBLIC WILL ALREADY FIGURE SOMETHING'S GOING ON AND THEN WE WILL BE ALL OVER NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WITH MISINFORMATION.
SO IMPORTANT TO GET CORRECT INFORMATION OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE, UH, SCENARIOS, LIES HERE, BUT ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF IT, A LOT OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO CONSIDER WITH AN EVENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
SO I WANTED TO PUT THIS UP HERE.
THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT YOU SEE.
IF YOU GOOGLE CITY OF SEDONA SNOW REMOVAL OPERATIONS, IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST UP TO DATE.
I THINK THE POSTING FROM THE RED ROCK NEWS WHERE THIS CAME FROM WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD, BUT I WANTED TO PUT IT UP HERE.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE A CITIZEN AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHEN YOUR ROAD'S GONNA BE PLOWED OR HOW THE CITY'S WORKING ON STORM REMOVAL, THIS IS LIKELY THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.
AND THAT TIES BACK TO THAT COMMUNICATIONS PIECE WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF THE INFORMATION HERE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT WHAT'S MOST ACCURATE FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT OPERATIONS, ESPECIALLY FROM A PUBLIC WORKS PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHICH IS GONNA SEE A BIG LIFT, UH, WITH THIS EVENT.
SO THIS MAY BE FOLKS' INITIAL OPPRESSION OF HOW OUR OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO BE HANDLED.
I WAS JUST SAYING THE ENEX THE ENEX PROPERTY, SO IT'S, YEAH.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? PRE-INCIDENT? YES.
I, SO PRE-INCIDENT CHANCE, I WAS WONDERING TOO, THE POSSIBILITY OF NEEDING TO START THINKING ABOUT EMERGENCY SHELTERS, UM, AND WHAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE WOULD BE, UM, HOW THOSE WOULD BE HOUSED, ET CETERA.
I DON'T KNOW IN THIS SITUATION IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERATION, BUT I WOULD THINK SO IN CASES OF, YOU KNOW, LOSS OF POWER, LOSS OF COMMUNICATION, ET CETERA, ABSOLUTELY.
SHELTERING IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST CONSIDERATIONS OF THE EOC.
BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT COME BEFORE THE NEED FOR SHELTERING, RIGHT? LIKE YOU MENTIONED, LOSS OF POWER, LOSS OF HEAT, LOSS OF, YOU KNOW, FOOD ABILITY, ABILITY TO GET FOOD.
UM, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THE EOC WILL START THINKING ABOUT FROM THE GET GO.
I THINK FOR FOLKS, UM, THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A HOME OR EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UTILIZES TO GET THOSE FOLKS INTO SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY SHELTERING DURING A SNOW INCIDENT.
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I MEAN, JUST ON THAT NOTE, THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT BE THE LEAST ACCESSIBLE FOR INFORMATION WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT CELL PHONES OR NEXT DOOR OR WHATEVER.THEY WILL BE THE MOST CUT OFF AND MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED PHYSICALLY FOR POLICE OR VOLUNTEERS OR WHATEVER IT'S GONNA DO TO ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW AS OPPOSED TO EXPECTING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HEAR FROM PAUSE OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT.
WE'D PROBABLY MOBILIZE OUR VOLUNTEERS AT THE PD AS MUCH AS IT'S SAFE TO DO SO.
BUT THEN ALSO I THINK THE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SEE FOLKS IN SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS HAVE SOME PROACTIVE OUTREACH AS WELL.
COMMANDER YOUNG, IS THAT ACCURATE FOR THAT PROGRAM? THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS AND THAT COULD BE ONE OF THEM.
A LOT OF THIS IS DEPENDENT ON THE EXACT ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH.
I ARE WE TALKING WITH TWO INCHES OF SNOW OR TWO FEET OF SNOW? I'M NOT GONNA HAVE VOLUNTEERS GOING OUT IF IT'S EXTENSIVE SNOW OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IT COULD CERTAINLY VARY DEPENDING ON THE EXACT CONDITIONS, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION IF SURE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THIS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET 24 36.
YEAH, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA START RAMPING UP HERE PRETTY QUICK.
SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT PORTION OF THE, UH, SO WE STILL RIGHT
WE'LL BE LIKE I TELL THIS CORNER ON THE TABLE'S FROM COLORADO THE LAST YOU ARE, WE GOT IT.
SO NOW WE'RE AT THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A WINTER STORM WATCH.
SO CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE, HAS UPGRADED TO A WINTER STORM WARNING.
SO IT'S FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE THIS IS GOING TO START OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'RE FORECASTING UP TO 30 INCHES OF SNOW OVER THREE DAYS WITH SUSTAINED WINDS.
SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS GONE AHEAD AND ANNOUNCED SOME CLOSURES.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO HAVE YOU HIT THE I BELIEVE BUTTON HERE FOR A SECOND ON THAT 30 INCHES.
WHAT IS SO CSB? THAT'S, UH, S CREEK SCHOOL.
I I TOLD YOU TO ASK, SO THANK YOU.
UM, SO THEY'RE ANNOUNCING SOME CLOSURES EXPECTING BIG IMPACTS.
PARENTS ARE BEGINNING TO ASK WHETHER CITY SERVICES ARE GOING TO REMAIN OPERATIONAL.
HOW ARE FOLKS GONNA KNOW THAT PARKS ARE STILL OPEN OR IF THEY'RE GONNA EXPECT THEY CAN COME TO CITY HALL AND STILL GET PERMITTING SERVICES? RIGHT.
THOSE ARE QUESTIONS FOLKS ARE GONNA HAVE.
JULIA, I SAW YOUR HAND GO UP FOR A SECOND.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY AT THIS POINT, IF WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO ASK QUESTIONS AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET, I'M DEFINITELY GONNA BE CONNECTING WITH YOU FOR A SITUATION ASSESSMENT AND ASKING THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS SO WE CAN TRY TO PUSH INFORMATION OUT WHILE WE STILL HAVE POWER, UM, IN AS MANY WAYS AS WE CAN.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT NICKEL, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING SO
WE'LL USE ALL THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, YOU KNOW, PRE-INCIDENT WITHIN REASON, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT.
WHAT'S THE BACKUP IF THERE'S, IF INFORMATION CAN'T BE PUSHED FROM HERE 'CAUSE EVERYTHING'S OUT, HOW DO YOU GET INFORMATION TO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO'S DOWN FURTHER, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTH OF THE LOWER ELEVATION? IS IT THE SAME ISSUE? WHAT'S THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER CITY THAT COULD PUSH FOR US? SO WE MAINTAIN, UH, GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH BOTH OF OUR COUNTIES, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICES, AND THEY HAVE ASSETS THAT THEIR DISPOSAL OF THEIR OWN SYSTEMS AND, UH, PERSONNEL WHO'D BE ABLE TO PUSH MESSAGES LIKE THAT OUT.
IF THERE IS TOTALLY NO POWER, NO CELL, NO RADIO, IT, IT DOES BECOME INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT AT THAT POINT TO PUSH OUT MESSAGING.
AND IT DOES RELY, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY ON FOLKS JUST GOING DOOR TO DOOR, UM, TO SPREAD INFORMATION THERE.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIREN SYSTEM, BUT PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, UH, WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BE IMMEDIATELY ACTIVATED UNTIL IMPACTS ACTUALLY OCCUR.
AND ISN'T OUR DISPATCH CENTER PRETTY, UM, POWER REDUNDANT AND NICKEL GOES OUT THROUGH? UM, YES.
WE DO HAVE BACKUP POWER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE DISPATCHER'S HOUSE, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, IT DOES BECOME DIFFICULT SOMETIMES.
'CAUSE YOU SOMETIMES NEED POWER ON BOTH ENDS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE A MESSAGE SO WE CAN SEND THE MESSAGE.
UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE POWER INTERNET WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE THE MESSAGE, IT MAY, YOU MAY NOT GET
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IT.SO WORKING THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES.
ALL RIGHT, SO NOW IT'S THE MORNING OF A FEW MORE HOURS HAVE PASSED.
SO WE'RE SEEING ADOT REPORTING MULTIPLE SPIN OUTS NORTH OF CAMP VERDE TRAFFIC COMING UP THE I 17.
THEY'RE STARTING TO DIVERT ONTO 1 79.
AS HAPPENS, UH, LARGER TRUCKS WILL DIVERT ONTO MUCH SMALLER ROADS THAN EVEN 1 79 DURING, UH, SNOW EVENTS.
SNOW BEGINS ACCUMULATING FASTER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY FORECAST.
MAYBE THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE POTENTIALLY SAID MAYBE A HALF INCH TO AN INCH PER HOUR, BUT NOW WE'RE SEEING ONE TO TWO INCHES PER HOUR.
SO PROBABLY STARTING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT MIGHT BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO KEEP UP WITH SNOW REMOVAL.
IT MIGHT START ACCUMULATING FASTER THAN WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE FOUR COUNSELORS CURRENTLY AT ALAC RETREAT AND THEY ARE UNABLE TO RETURN.
SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS EXERCISE, FOR THE COUNSELORS WHO ARE HERE, I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE THE COUNSELOR WHO'S HERE STILL IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, UH, BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES.
I WANNA BE THE COUNSELOR THAT'S
I I BELIEVE ONE OF THE ISSUES WE WOULD HAVE IN THIS CITY AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ON A THURSDAY IS AFTER ALL THIS HAS HAPPENED, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING TO SAFEWAY AND BACHAS AND WHOLE FOODS AND THEY'LL BE A RUN ON ALL THE GROCERY STORES, WHICH CAN BECOME A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE.
UM, IF YOU'VE GOT SNOW ON THE ROADS AND ALSO IN THE PARKING LOTS, WHICH USUALLY DON'T GET PLOWED.
NOT JUST THE SUPERMARKETS, BUT THE HARDWARE SOURCE.
ANY, ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S THE DAILY THINGS THAT YOU'RE NOW WORRIED YOU WON'T, THERE'LL BE A SHORTAGE OF.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A RUN ON THOSE.
AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE THE, THAT PART OF WEST SEDONA IS GONNA BE A MESS.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS SOME OF THAT LATER IN THIS AS WELL.
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT FOUR COUNSELORS ARE CURRENTLY NOT IN THE CITY OF SEDONA, BESIDES FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THEY MAY GET AN EXTRA COUPLE DAYS OF VACATION? CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS.
IN ADDITION, UH, TO THERE NOT BEING A QUORUM, I WOULD WANNA KNOW, UH, OF THE FOUR THAT ARE UNAVAILABLE IS, IS THE MAYOR, WELL, SHE'S ALREADY IN THE POOL, SO SHE'S UNAVAILABLE.
IS THE VICE MAYOR AVAILABLE? UM, YOU KNOW, WE KINDA HAVE A PECKING ORDER, SO I, I WOULD WANNA, THOSE WOULD BE MY QUESTIONS.
WHO IS THE, WHAT IS THE PECKING ORDER? WHAT'S, IF BOTH THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR ARE OUT, WHO'S NEXT? THEN THE REMAINING COUNSELORS WILL, UH, DETERMINE AMONGST THEM, AND IT'S IN OUR CITY CODE, UH, ACTING MAYOR, UH, 2.10030 YEAH.
AND THE ABSENCE OR DISABILITY OF BOTH THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR.
THE COUNCIL SHALL DESIGNATE ANOTHER OF ITS MEMBERS TO SERVE AS ACTING MAYOR WHO SHALL HAVE ALL THE SAME POWERS AND DUTIES, BUT YOU'D NEED A QUORUM.
SO I'D WANNA KNOW OF THOSE FOUR.
MAYOR, DO, DO YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE WITH YOU? CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, IS IT WATERPROOF? SO, SO THE, THE MAYOR CAN DECLARE AN EMERGENCY? YES.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, MAYBE WHEN THE INCIDENT RAMPS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, SO ALSO WITH THE ABILITY TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY OR GET A QUORUM WHO CAN MAKE EMERGENCY PURCHASES FOR THE CITY OUTSIDE OF PROCUREMENT, YOU KNOW, REGULAR PROCUREMENT POLICY, WE HAVE CITY CODE ON THAT
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THESE, I JUST PRINTED THEM QUICKLY.
I WAS TOO BUSY TO LOOK AT THEM.
UH, SO I, I, UH, I, I LOOKED IN OUR CITY CODE FOR EMERGENCY AND THEN I PRINTED IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF I'D HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.
EMERGENCY PURCHASES, UH, WHAT ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES EMERGENCY PURCHASES.
UM, WHEN TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE CITY MANAGER, UM, CITY MANAGER, UH, PROCUREMENT OFFICER, UH, AND THE MAYOR SHALL BE EMPOWERED TO, TO PURCHASE, UH, OR SECURE SERVICES OR MATERIALS WITHOUT COMPLYING WITH THE, THE CITY CODE.
Y YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S ANOTHER BACKUP TOO.
IF WE, IF THE CITY MANAGER PROCUREMENT OFFICER AND THE MAYOR ARE STILL UNAVAILABLE, PURCHASES CAN BE MADE AND THEN COUNCIL CAN RATIFY THEM.
BUT WE'D WANNA, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME LEVEL OF DIALOGUE.
UH, BUT MANAGER IAN? UH, MAYOR, GREAT.
AND THERE'S ALWAYS A LEGAL ASPECT TO EMERGENCY, SO HAVING MONIQUE HERE IS VERY HELPFUL.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS A LITTLE LATER HERE.
AS WE'RE GETTING INTO THE INCIDENT, ARE THERE
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ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS, JUST LOOKING AT THESE FIRST COUPLE OF INJECTS, INJECTS OR EXERCISE SCENARIOS HERE, UM, DO WE HAVE A SHIFT IF WE'RE KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, MAYBE DIVERTING FROM I 17.IS THERE, IS THERE A PATROL OR TRAFFIC CONSIDERATION TO THAT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT? I THINK EVERYONE'S WELL AWARE OF THE, THE Y TRAFFIC CIRCLE IN ANY NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC THAT'S TRYING TO GET FROM THE STOPPAGES ON THE I 17 1 79 INTERCHANGE AND GOING NORTH TO FLAGSTAFF, WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA TRY TO PUSH THROUGH THE Y AND TRY TO GO NORTH 89 AND ESPECIALLY LARGER TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD ISSUES WITH THOSE TRUCKS GETTING STUCK, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR CITY OR EVENTUALLY GOING UP THE CANYON ITSELF AND GETTING STUCK UP THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF TRAFFIC FROM THERE TO, TO DEAL WITH.
SO PLANNING TO POTENTIALLY DIVERT THAT TRAFFIC ELSEWHERE OR WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY NEED TO PUT OFFICERS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO DIRECT TRAFFIC, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET, UH, INGRESS EGRESS EFFICIENTLY.
SO A LITTLE BIT LATER, GIVE IT A COUPLE MORE HOURS.
A TAURUS BUS HAS COME STRANDED ON 89 A INSIDE OAK CREEK CANYON WITH 42 PASSENGERS.
IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'D INITIALLY RESPOND TO AS SEDONA PD? IF IT DEPENDS, YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT? YEAH, IF, UH, COO COUNTY IS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT DOWN THE HILL SAFELY AND WHILE WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE MAY BE THE CLOSEST LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE.
SO IF COCOA CAN'T, IF THEY'RE A SEARCH, WE CAN'T CREATE A PATH FOR THEM.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH COCONINO COUNTY, UH, TO PROVIDE SUPPORT IN OAK CREEK CANYON WHEN REQUESTED.
WE ASSUME SINCE IT'S REQUIRED
SO TYPICALLY SEDONA FIRE, UM, AS WE SAW WITH THE POCKET FIRE, HAS A LIAISON DESIGNATED TO OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER AND WE'RE COORDINATING THROUGH THEM ON A INCIDENT OPERATIONS.
SO THAT PHOTO THERE IS REFERRING TO THE SECOND INJECT ON THERE, THE, UH, CITY SNOWPLOW HAS EXPERIENCED A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE AND IGNITES ON COOKS HILL.
NOTHING AGAINST PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN AT ADOT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
UM, AND IT WAS KIND OF BAFFLING TO SEE FIREFIGHTERS SPRAYING DOWN A SNOWPLOW IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLIZZARD, BUT IT DOES OCCUR.
UM, HOW WOULD WE ADJUST, HOW MANY SNOWPLOWS ROUGHLY WOULD BE OPERATING, YOU KNOW, DURING A TIME LIKE THIS FOR THE CITY? UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING, THE ONE BRIAN ALLOWED US TO.
REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO MOBILIZE THE LOSS OF ONE IS, IS A, IS A BIG CHANGE IN OPERATIONS AND HOW WE'RE ABLE TO CONDUCT SNOW REMOVAL.
SO ALONG WITH THAT, NOW THAT WE'RE DOWN A SNOWPLOW, UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE WANTING TO KNOW WHEN STREETS ARE GOING TO GET PLOWED.
UM, HOW WOULD WE HANDLE THAT ON A COMMUNICATIONS OR PUBLIC MESSAGING STANDPOINT? DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO, JOEL, YOU WANNA CHIME IN ON THAT ONE? I WOULD THINK WE'D BE TELLING EVERYBODY TO STAY HOME UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THAT WE WERE GONNA PRIORITIZE THE ACCESS ROUTES TO THE HOSPITALS AND OTHER PLACES SO THAT WE TRY TO GET THEM ASSURANCE THAT EMERGENCIES ARE GONNA BE HANDLED, BUT RESIDENTS ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE LAST NOT TO OVER.
AND, AND IN COORDINATION WITH THAT, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME KIND OF PRE-INCIDENT MESSAGING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST MAYBE 12, 24 HOURS OUT, UM, LETTING FOLKS KNOW THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS GOING TO OCCUR.
NOT THE, NOT THE SNOWPLOW, JUST THE STORM EVENT.
SO, BUT THEY NEVER BELIEVED IT.
UM, WITH THIS CALL GOING ON, ALL OF OUR MEMBERS ARE PROBABLY GONNA GET OVERWHELMED WITH PEOPLE CALLING, WANTING TO KNOW EMERGENCY, WANTING TO KNOW, GET, OR WANTING TO KNOW WHETHER STREETS ARE GONNA GET FILED.
DO WE HAVE A PLAN TO LET PEOPLE KNOW TO NOT CALL UNLESS IT'S A EMERGENCY QUESTION, BUT COULD BE YOUR
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QUESTION.SO WE, UM, WE'D PROBABLY UTILIZE OUR NICKEL SYSTEM PRE-INCIDENT, UM, TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT POINT FOR FOLKS.
AND IF WE ARE GONNA DIRECT FOLKS, UH, TO CONTACT US, MAYBE WE JUST HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, HEY, WE DO HAVE A NON-EMERGENCY LINE OR WE HAVE OTHER CITY LINES, UM, THAT YOU CAN CALL INTO.
'CAUSE I DO WANNA LET OUR COMMUNICATIONS FOLKS IN THE PD UH, KIND OF JUST EXPLAIN HOW THE 9 1 1 PROCESS WORKS.
IF ALL OF OUR 9 1 1 LINES ARE TIED UP, WHAT HAPPENS THERE? SO I'LL PASS THIS BACK TO THEM.
SO IF OUR TRUNK LINES GET FULL AND 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S CALLING IN, THEN THEY GET PUSHED OVER TO COTTONWOOD, COTTONWOOD WOULD THEN TAKE THOSE CALLS.
IF IT GETS PUSHED ON PAST THEM, THEN IT GOES TO DPS DOWN TO TUCSON AND THEN THEY FIELD THOSE CALLS, BUT THE CALLS ARE GETTING FIELDED.
WE ALSO WOULD HAVE THE EOC GOING WHERE WE'D BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL THE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS TRANSFERRED INTO THERE AND WE'D HAVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ON THIS SLIDE SPECIFICALLY BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE? YES.
I THINK ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOLS THAT THE INCIDENT COMMAND CENTER USES DURING FIRES IS TO HAVE DAILY UPDATES AND KNOW THE COMMUNITY REALLY APPRECIATED THE CONSISTENCY OF WHEN THEY OCCURRED AND THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DELIVERED.
SO DO WE HAVE A CHANNEL THAT WE COULD USE FOR THOSE? THEY USED FACEBOOK, CAN WE PROBABLY ALSO UTILIZE, UM, THE CITY'S FACEBOOK FOR THAT AS WELL, JULIE, ANY OTHER OPTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE? WE'D BE DOING, UM, ALL CHANNELS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO USS, WHETHER TRYING TO PUT CONSISTENT MESSAGES AND ALSO WE'D PROBABLY BE ASKING SOME OF OUR PARTNERS TO PUSH OUT INFORMATION FOR US.
AND WE DO THE SAME THING FOR THEM, LIKE THE INCIDENT COMMAND FOR THE COUNTIES.
IF THEY HAVE MESSAGES, WE PUSH THEIR STUFF OUT, WHICH IS WHAT WAS GOING ON, RIGHT? SO IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WE'VE GOT THE SNOWPLOW ON COOKS HILL, WHICH IS SUPER STEEP AND GOES RIGHT DOWN TO THE Y WE'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING UP 1 79 THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE ROUTED IF THEY'RE LIKE THE BIG TRUCKS, RIGHT? WE WANT THEM TO ROUTE TOWARDS COTTONWOOD ON 89 A, WHICH MEANS GOING UP COOKS HILL.
SO WE HAVE A REALLY BIG POTENTIAL ISSUE RIGHT THERE, DEPENDING ON HOW EXACTLY ALL THAT TIMING HAPPENS.
HE'S GONNA SERGEANT, THAT'S WHAT I, I WAS GONNA KIND OF TOUCHED ON THAT WITH, UH, COATS HILL.
IT WOULD END UP BEING SHUT DOWN.
WHAT WOULD A RESPONSE LIKE FROM ADOT SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH SNOW PLOWS THAT HELP WITH EAST SIDE OF TOWN, ALSO MEDICAL OF HOW ARE WE GONNA ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN? GOING BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING, IS SOMEBODY ASSIGNED AS AN INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR THESE KINDS OF EMERGENCIES THAT YOU SO IT, IT POTENTIALLY, UM, COULD BE ME, BUT I'D MORE LIKELY BE JUST MANAGING THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER AND SOMEONE EITHER FROM, UH, THE PD COMMAND STAFF OR PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE IN THAT INCIDENT COMMANDER ROLE.
TO TOUCH ON THE PUBLIC MESSAGING PIECE REAL QUICK, ON AN INCIDENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE, UH, THERE WOULD BE A JOINT INFORMATION CENTER STOOD UP AND THAT WOULD COMPRISE PIOS, UM, FROM BOTH THE CITY, FROM BOTH THE COUNTIES, LIKELY EVEN THE NATIONAL FOREST OR ADOT.
AND THEY'D ALL BE WORKING, UH, TOGETHER LIKELY, VIRTUALLY IN A SCENARIO LIKE THIS.
UM, ON CONSISTENT MESSAGING AND THEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY IS SPLIT IN HALF, HOW WOULD THAT BE MANAGED? UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WITH BASIS OF OPERATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE A LIAISON, UM, OUT OF THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, PD SUBSTATION IN THE PARKING GARAGE OR OUT OF A FIRE STATION OVER THERE AND WE KIND OF COMPARTMENTALIZE THE INCIDENT COMMAND TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO WE HAVE THIS TOURIST BUS THAT'S ON 89 A WITH THE
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42 PASSENGERS.IF WE CAN'T MOVE IT OUT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THE 42 PASSENGERS? THEY CAN'T STAY ON THE BUS, THEY'LL FREEZE.
UM, SO YEAH, EMERGENCY PURCHASE, THERE YOU GO.
SO LIKELY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE? UH, WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH COCONINO COUNTY SEARCH AND RESCUE WHO TYPICALLY HANDLE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
WHEN THEY'RE RESCUING PEOPLE FROM, UM, UNFAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTS, THEY WOULD LIKELY BE TRANSPORTED TO A, A SHELTER EITHER, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY OF SEDONA OR FLAGSTAFF THAT'S SET UP BY THE RED CROSS.
SO, OKAY, SO WE GIVE IT A COUPLE MORE HOURS NOW.
IT'S NOW THE, UH, THE, THE AFTERNOON, UM, SNOW ACCUMULATION HAS REACHED 12 INCHES.
SOME VEHICLES HAVE BEGUN TO BE ABANDONED, UM, ACROSS DIFFERENT AREAS OF TOWN.
A SEMI-TRUCK HAS DIVERTED FROM I 17 AND GETS STUCK AT THE CHAPEL ROUNDABOUT.
THEY'VE CALLED IN, THEY SAID THEY NEED TO GET MOVING AND THEN DUE TO FREEZING TEMPERATURES, A WATER MAIN BREAKS IN, FREEZES IN THE SOLID ICE AT, UH, THE COFFEE POT INTERSECTION.
SO LET'S KIND OF ADDRESS THESE ONE AT A TIME HERE.
IF VEHICLES BEGIN TO BE ABANDONED, UH, IN AN EMERGENCY SCENARIO LIKE THIS, CAN I HAVE ONE OF THE PD FOLKS TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR DAY-TO-DAY PROCEDURE FOR AN ABANDONED VEHICLE IS? AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN TALK THROUGH WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE HAD MAYBE NEEDED TO REALLY HAVE A ROAD OPEN? WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT? I DON'T.
IF IT'S ABANDONED, UH, ON THE ROADWAY, WE WOULD EITHER RED TAG IT AND GIVE IT 24 HOURS TO BE MOVED.
IF IT'S BLOCKING TRAFFIC, WE WOULD REQUEST A TOW AND MOVE IT NEEDED.
UM, WE WOULD DO WHATEVER WE COULD TO TRY TO CONTACT THE OWNER TO GET IT MOVED BEFORE TOWING IT.
BUT IF IT'S CREATING A HINDRANCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WOULD JUST REQUEST A TOW AND HAVE IT MOVED.
IN THIS CASE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE GENERALLY DONE IN THE PAST IS PUSH IT OFF THE ROADWAY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT BLOCKING THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES PLOWS.
FIRE APPARATUS CAN STILL MAKE A MISTAKE.
WE WOULD JUST LEAVE IT THERE UNTIL TOWS ARE MORE READILY AVAILABLE.
USUALLY IN SCENARIOS LIKE THESE TOW TRUCKS ARE INCREDIBLY BUSY GETTING VEHICLES OFF FOOT STRANDED AND GETTING THEM, UH, OFF THE HILL ON WEST SEDONA.
SO WE WOULD JUST PUSH THEM OFF THE ROADWAY
SO I THINK YOU COVERED BOTH POINTS THERE.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THE DAY TO DAY.
THEN ALSO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN AN EMERGENCY SCENARIO, UH, WITH THE SEMI-TRUCK THAT'S STUCK AT THE CHAPEL ROUNDABOUT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A SERGEANT MAYBE ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM, EXPAND HOW YOU WOULD TRIAGE THAT AND THEN MAYBE HOW WOULD YOU, UH, WOULD ASSIGN SOMEBODY TO ASSIST WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S AN OFFICER OR A CSO, BUT I'LL LET YOU EXPAND ON THAT.
WOULD ANY THREE OF YOU OVER HERE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO IN THAT SITUATION, WHAT, UH, WE WOULD DO IS GET ONE OF OUR CSOS BEHIND THE VEHICLE JUST, UM, JUST FOR SAFETY PRECAUTIONS, UM, REACH OUT TO ONE OF OUR BIG RIG TOWS.
NORMALLY THEY'RE OUTTA CAMP VERDE.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME WITH THE TRAFFIC BEHIND IT, WE WOULD TRY TO DIVERT 'EM OR EITHER TURN 'EM AROUND BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT ROUNDABOUT SO THERE'S NOT JUST TRAFFIC JUST SITTING THERE BACKED UP.
BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S JUST GETTING, UM, GETTING IN CONTACT WITH THE BIG RIG, UH, TOW TO GET OUT HERE AND SEE WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR TIME IS, UH, TO GET THAT VEHICLE OR THAT BIG RIG OUT OF THE WAY.
SO NOW FOR THE NEXT POINT, HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS A, A VERY UNSAFE INTERSECTION IF IF WATER BREAKS FREEZE IN THE SOLID ICE RAPIDLY, THAT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, INITIALLY I'D EXPECT THERE'S BE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TIER RESPONSE.
OBVIOUSLY PD PROBABLY SHOW UP FIRST, BUT THEN PROBABLY CONTACT STREETS.
THIS HAPPENS ON A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ROADWAY RELATED INCIDENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY MITIGATING ACTIONS THAT WE COULD DO? COULD WE POTENTIALLY DIVERT PEOPLE? DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY UNFREEZE THE ICE? IS THAT, IS THAT A POTENTIAL
SERGEANT DORFMAN, UH, THIS WOULD BE A HAVE R CINDER WHATEVER THEY DO HAVE OUT THERE.
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CLEAR SIZE.GREAT, THANK YOU DO STOCKPILE.
SO GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE UTILIZE THAT THERE.
SO ANY CONSIDER YES, DIRECTLY RELATED.
WE, WE PROACTIVELY CLOSE CERTAIN ROAD, LIKE AIRPORT LOADS? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A DECISION.
UH, PD AND PATROL WOULD PROBABLY MAKE, I SORRY YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
UH, SERGEANT, HAVE WE DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY? WE TEND TO DO THAT VERY QUICKLY WHEN IT COMES IN THESE AIRPORT DOWN RIGHT AWAY.
OH YEAH, ROAD DOWN RIGHT AWAY.
ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF ROADS WITH A VERY STEEP SLOPE, WE GET TO THOSE VERY QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S ALL DROUGHTS.
LIKE THE FOREST AIRPORT ROADS A LITTLE TOUGHER BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST ON AN ISLAND AT THAT POINT, BUT WE MITIGATE THAT AS BEST WE CAN, ESPECIALLY NOT LETTING PEOPLE UP.
MOUNTAIN SHADOWS TENDS TO BE ONE THAT GETS BROUGHT TO A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THOSE TWO WOULD BE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS SOME PRETTY STEEP SPOTS THAT WE USUALLY GET INTO THAT TOO.
I THINK FOR PD, THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES ARE COMING INTO TOWN ROAD, AIRPORT ROAD AND
SO RAMPING UP THE, UH, DIRE SITUATION.
YOU'VE GOT THIS PLOW THAT'S ON FIRE ON COOKS HILL AND CARS CAN'T GET UP, SO THEY'RE BEING ABANDONED.
HOW DO YOU PUSH THEM TO THE SIDE WHEN THERE'S A CURB? AND LIKE SO FAR EVERYTHING'S ASSUMING THAT YOU CAN GET TO WHEREVER THE PROBLEM IS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GETTING BLOCKED FROM BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE, THE INCIDENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO THEN? MOTORCYCLE ON THE FRONT.
WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT PUSHING VEHICLES OUT OF THE ROADWAY IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION TO GET OTHER VEHICLES THROUGH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE GENTLE AT THAT POINT.
IF YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO ANOTHER PLOW WHEN THEY'RE PUSHING PROPERTY DAMAGE AND GET FIXED LATER, THAT'S GONNA BE A SECONDARY CONSIDERATION.
UM, SO IT WOULD, OPTIONS WOULD BE A LOT DIFFERENT AT THAT POINT.
UM, ALSO ALL THESE DEPEND, RIGHT? DRIVING ON ICE ON A FLAT ROAD NEAR COFFEE POT WITH SNOW PACK ON TOP, WE'VE ALL DONE IT A THOUSAND TIMES.
PUTTING A LOT OF GALLONS OF WATER ON A PLOW ON COOKS HILL, I WOULD WANT TO AVOID THAT.
THAT'S GONNA BE A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.
SO IS THE PLOW SOMEWHERE WE CAN LET IT BURN OUT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND REOPEN THE ROAD? THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO DUMP WATER ON IT, BUT THAT'S A FIRE PROBLEM.
SO IT'S A LOT OF THESE HAVE SOME GRAY AREA FOR IT.
BUT IF WE HAVE TO CLEAR ROOM FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES CLEAR, I DON'T CARE IF WE HAVE TO GO, I PUSHED CARS ON ICE, THEY GO A LITTLE VIEW HERE.
AND IF, IF WE'RE TRULY AT THE EXTENT OF OUR RESOURCES, WE ARE NO ABLE, NO LONGER ABLE TO RESPOND TO THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE THE CITY.
UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT KIND OF INCHES US TOWARDS THAT EMERGENCY PROC PROCLAMATION.
WE'RE OVERWHELMED, WE'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO RESPOND EFFICIENTLY.
AND THE CITY'S ALSO A SIGNATORY TO THE ARIZONA MUTUAL AID COMPACT, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE COMPACT FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE.
WE COULD START LEVERAGING OTHER, OTHER JURISDICTIONS AT THAT POINT TO BRING IN EQUIPMENT FROM MAYBE LESS AFFECTED AREAS THAT ARE ABLE TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH THESE MISSIONS.
OKAY, SO WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO THE EVENING HERE.
COMMUNICATION'S ALWAYS A BIG COMPONENT AND IT'S CONTINUING TO GO ON, BUT THERE'S RUMORS SPREADING THAT THE CITY IS PREPARING MANDATORY EVACUATIONS DESPITE NO OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
RUMOR CONTROL IS SOMETHING THAT THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER ALWAYS HAS TO DEAL WITH, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT GETS ADDRESSED AND IT, AND A SOMETIMES IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHETHER YOU ADDRESS RUMORS OR NOT.
UM, BUT JULIE, DO YOU THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE'D ADDRESS DIRECTLY? I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON, UM, KIND OF THIS, WHERE WE, WHERE WE HEARD THIS FROM.
UM, BUT PROBABLY WE WOULD, WE DO ASSIGN A MEDIA MONITOR, UM, IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS.
SO THEY'D BE LOOKING AT FACEBOOK NEXT DOOR, THE RED ROCK NEWS, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY, IF IF THERE WAS AN ANSWER TO THIS, UM, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY, TRY TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT.
LIKE IF THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING
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ON IP SAYING COME ON, WE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION NOW.IT'S ALREADY GETTING OUT THERE.
SO A PS IS ALSO REPORTING IMPACTS TO POWER INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE REGION.
WE'RE STILL FINE FOR NOW, UH, BUT THERE ARE OUTAGES AND THAT'S LIKELY A SIGN THAT DISRUPTIONS AS THE EVENT CONTINUES TO GO ON IS LIKELY TO INCREASE.
SO JUST A CONSIDERATION THERE.
SO NOW NOT ONLY IS IT COLD AND SNOWY, IT'S ABOUT TO BE DARK, COLD AND SNOWY.
WELL AND TOO, IF THE WATER MAY GROW UP, SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE WATER MM-HMM
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES, UM, THAT THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE AND LIAISE WITH HERE MORE THAN SOME JURISDICTIONS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SEDONA FIRE DISTRICT BEING A SEPARATE GOVERNMENT BODY, THE WATER COMPANY BEING A PRIVATE UTILITY, UH, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THOSE FOLKS IN AS LIAISONS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THESE ISSUES RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THOSE FUNCTIONS.
SOME OF THEM BEING IN-HOUSE AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S THE NEXT MORNING ABOUT 4:00 AM WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE NIGHT, BUT NOW SNOW DEPTH IS EXCEEDING 24 INCHES.
MANY SECONDARY ROADS, ESPECIALLY IF WE WERE UNABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THEM, UM, ARE NOW IMPASSABLE.
WE ALSO HAVE RHYME ICE, WHICH IS A TYPE OF ICE IN CERTAIN WINDY CONDITIONS.
I'M SURE SERGEANT WHITE'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT AS AN AVIATOR.
UM, IS FORMING ON RADIO REPEATERS AND IT'S RENDERING THEM INOPERABLE.
THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO COCONINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE A FEW YEARS AGO.
AFFECTED THEM IN FLAGSTAFF PD AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANY OF THEIR REPEATERS.
UM, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT OUR COMMUNICATIONS, UM, AT THE CITY AND AT THE PD IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REPEATED RADIOS? AARON OR TERRY? WE HAVE NO REPEATERS.
WHAT'S OUR, WHAT? WHAT COULD WE POTENTIALLY DO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY RADIO REPEATERS, CELL PHONES, MESSAGING? COULD WE? YEAH, CAD MESSAGING.
IS COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH? IT'S ON ALL THE PD COMPUTERS.
UM, IS THERE A POTENTIAL THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT LEAST IN SHORT DISTANCES COULD USE CAR TO CAR POTENTIALLY.
SURE YOU WANNA PASS THIS, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT R ICE THAT'S FORMED ON THE RADIO REPEATERS, WOULDN'T THEY HAVE ALSO IMPACTED YOUR CELL TOWERS BECAUSE THEY'RE OF AN EQUAL HEIGHT.
SO, AND SOME OF THEM ARE WAY UP ON TOP OF AIRPORT MESA.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA USE YOUR CELL PHONES IF THOSE TOWERS ARE ALSO IMPACTED? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO POTENTIALLY IMPACTED CELL TOWERS COULD BE, UH, ANECDOTALLY FOR MY EXPERIENCE IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE BEEN, SOMETIMES THEY HAVEN'T.
UH, R ICE IN A SCENARIO LIKE THIS ISN'T, DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY EVENT.
UH, BUT IT COULD AFFECT BOTH AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO ADDRESS.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ABOUT LIKE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY POWER OR COMMUNICATIONS AT ALL, HOW DO WE STILL GET THE MESSAGE OUT? UM, IT WOULD GET VERY CHALLENGING AND IT WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, COURIERS AND DOOR TO DOOR AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THAT ABSOLUTELY COULD, AND AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF REDUNDANCIES, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE COMMUNICATIONS, IF YOU HAVE RADIOS, THEN YOU HAVE CELL PHONES, THEN YOU MAYBE HAVE EMAIL.
UM, BUT THERE IS A POINT WHERE YOU DO JUST EXHAUST ALL YOUR OPTIONS.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PUSHES US TOWARDS THAT DISASTER DECLARATION.
AND THEN THE LAST INJECT ON THERE, FUEL DELIVERIES TO LOCAL GAS STATIONS ARE DELAYED INDEFINITELY.
THE TRUCKS JUST CAN'T GET HERE.
SECTIONS OF I 1789 A AND OTHER MAJOR HIGHWAYS.
DOES THIS CHANGE OUR POSTURE AT ALL? ESPECIALLY FOR DEPARTMENTS THAT MAYBE HAVE A LARGE FLEET CONTINGENT LIKE PUBLIC WORKS OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU KNEW THAT THERE WAS NO MORE FUEL COMING IN, HOW WOULD YOU ADJUST? I'M LOOKING AT YOU COMMANDER YOUNG, IDEALLY, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE CARS IN OUR LOTS THAT HAVE FULL TANKS TO BEGIN WITH, SO THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
WE WOULD ROTATE VEHICLES AS NEEDED WITH SPARES.
WE ALWAYS KEEP SOME SPARES, UH, IN PLACE AND WE WOULD ROTATE THOSE THROUGH.
BUT CERTAINLY YOU WOULD WANT TO LIMIT HOW MUCH FUEL YOU'RE USING.
IF YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU'RE DRIVING WITH A PURPOSE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A GOAL IN MIND.
YOU'RE NOT GOING AROUND JUST TO GO AROUND.
BUT YOU COULD POSITION CARS ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN TO LIMIT THEIR OVERALL DISTANCE OF THRIVING AND
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THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO START TRIAGING AND MANAGING ASSETS.YEAH, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE THIS IS AN EVENT, THAT FORECAST EVENT, WE PREPARE FOR THIS EVENT BY FILLING UP ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT, UM, OUT AT WASTEWATER.
WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE TANK SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S OFF.
UM, AND WE WOULD ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ADEQUATE.
ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF THIS POINT? WE'RE OVER A DAY INTO THE INCIDENT CONDITIONS IN SOME AREAS ARE GETTING PRETTY DIRE.
JUST BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANNA GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THIS IS, THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY WHEELHOUSE BEING PE AND WORRY THAT EVERYTHING WILL GO ROUND.
UM, SO YOU'VE GOT 24 INCHES OF SNOW, YOU HAVE SECONDARY ROADS ARE IMPASSABLE, YOU POTENTIALLY LOW ON FUEL AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING EMERGENCIES LIKE HEALTH EMERGENCIES OR YOU KNOW, THEIR POWER IS OUT AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE FREEZING.
YOU HAVE REAL EMERGENCIES HAPPENING IN THE CITY.
HOW ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE IF WE A, HAVE 24 INCHES OF SNOW AND B, WE MAY BE LOW ON FUEL.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO THAT, WHETHER IT'S US OR THE FIRE DISTRICT.
UM, BUT THE END OF THE DAY WITH OUR OBJECTIVE BEING LIFE SAFETY IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER, THE ANSWER IS THE BEST WE CAN TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
AND WHEN WE NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WE ATTEMPT TO REQUEST THEM THROUGH AZ MAC AND OTHER CHANNELS.
SO, UM, IT IS NOT A GREAT SCENARIO.
THIS IS WOULD CERTAINLY BE A BAD SITUATION TO BE IN, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP OUR ABILITY TO, TO FUNCTION AS A GOVERNMENT.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE AS BEST WE CAN.
SEEMS LIKE AT SOME POINT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MESSAGING, UM, SAFETY MESSAGING ABOUT PEOPLE HOMES.
UM, I JUST, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF CONSIDER WHAT SITUATION YOU WERE IN AND WHAT MIGHT THEY BE DOING TO POTENTIALLY STORY.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU LOOKED AHEAD IN THE PACKET, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU DID.
SO, BUT THAT'S JUST, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.
WE'RE THINKING AHEAD AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THESE CHALLENGES.
CHANCE, JUST CURIOUS, WE'VE MENTIONED THE FIRE DISTRICT A FEW TIMES.
DID WE INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE TODAY? SO NOT FOR THIS SPECIFIC SCENARIO, 'CAUSE THIS WAS AN INTERNALLY CITY FOCUSED RESPONSE SCENARIO.
WE HAVE INVITED THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN OTHER TABLETOP EXERCISES THAT WE'VE DONE AND WE DID GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM PRETTY EXTENSIVELY ON THE POCKET FIRE.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE EOC WITH THEM, BUT NOT FOR THIS SPECIFIC EXERCISE.
I DID WANT THIS TO JUST TO BE VERY CITY FOCUSED, CITY RESPONSE ORIENTED.
SO, AND AGAIN, THIS SHOWS MY IGNORANCE, BUT IN SCENARIOS WHERE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF FUEL, WHAT ABOUT OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE FLEET? WHAT IS THE OPTION THERE? BATTERIES SLOW.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE POWER THAT WORKS AT THOSE STATIONS AND IS THERE REDUNDANCY IN THAT POWER? SO, OR BACKUP SO THAT IT DOES WORK AS, AS A BACKUP OPTION AT THAT TEMPERATURE? IT'S IRRELEVANT EFFICIENT.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS A DUMB QUESTION.
MOST OF THOSE HAVE VERY LOW CLEARANCE, SO IT'S NOT A DUMB QUESTION.
CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION, RIGHT? IF WE DON'T HAVE GAS, WELL HOW ELSE CAN WE GET AROUND? RIGHT? UM, WE DON'T HAVE HORSES AT THE PD BUT IF WE DID THAT COULD, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, IT'S KIND OF ALL HANDS ON DECK.
UM, JEEPS WE DO HAVE, YEAH THERE ARE PINK JEEPS DRIVING AROUND TOWN.
UM, SO POTENTIALLY COULD BE AN OPTION.
LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A ZAC, THE MUTUAL AID COMPACT, WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER RESOURCES FROM JURISDICTIONS THAT MAYBE DO HAVE TRUCKS THAT WE COULD BRING IN THAT FAIR BETTER THAN OUR VEHICLES DO.
IN ALL JOKING ASIDE, THE MORE, THE WORSE THINGS GET, THE MORE CREATIVE YOU GET.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN THAT HAVE HORSES.
SO WE'RE MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT
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THAT'S CHASE THE BEAR ON HORSEBACK.I JUST YOU WANNA SAY THAT INTO THE MICROPHONE SO IT GETS RECORDED? YEAH, YOU DID NOT RECORDED.
SO
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES AND THERE'S COMPOUNDING CHALLENGES, RIGHT? IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS NEED, THE NEED TO GET COMMUNICATIONS OUT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THEN NOT HAVING THE NORMAL MECHANISMS TO BE ABLE TO DO SO ON EITHER BOTH, YOU KNOW, THE DISSEMINATING OR THE RECEIVING END IS SOMETHING THAT THESE TABLETOPS ARE MEANT TO ELICIT, RIGHT? IT'S MEANT TO ELICIT THESE QUESTIONS SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT THESE CONSIDERATIONS AHEAD OF AN ACTUAL ACCIDENT.
JUST ALL JOKING ASIDE, I WAS JUST THINKING TOO WHERE USED TO WHERE I'M FROM, WE HAD ALL THESE ASSETS READILY A BUILT, YOU HAD SNOW CATS, SNOWMOBILES, OTHER THINGS THAT CAN MAKE THIS EASIER.
IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PREP TIME TO KNOW THE STORM'S COMING IN, WE COULD TRY TO RENT SNOWMOBILES FROM FLAG, HAVE 'EM TRAILERED DOWN AND READY JUST IN CASE WE NEED 'EM BECAUSE THAT COULD SOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES TOO, ESPECIALLY FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALL.
MM-HMM
AND THAT COULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE WE DO HAVE TO EXERCISE THAT EMERGENCY PURCHASING AUTHORITY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IF WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE THREAT IS IMMINENT.
SO YES, LIKE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE ASKING, SO I WOULDN'T SAY WE HAVE THAT SPECIFICALLY AT THE CITY.
UM, BUT WE WOULD WORK THROUGH COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT 'CAUSE THEY MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIPS WITH NONPROFITS THAT HANDLE A LOT OF THAT VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT.
UM, LIKE THE SALVATION ARMY, THE RED CROSS, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
SO THE NEXT MORNING NOW SEVERAL EMPLOYEES REPORT REPORT THAT THEY CANNOT REPORT FOR DUTY DUE TO IMPASSABLE ROADS AND HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS.
UH, WE ALREADY KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE MODIFIED STAFFING NEEDS, BUT WHAT IF SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE ON MODIFIED STAFFING, THEY THEMSELVES CANNOT MAKE IT IN.
AND WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING ADDITIONAL BARRICADES, FUEL GENERATORS AND TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS.
AND THEN LAST WE WILL TALK ABOUT CAN WE DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE OVERWHELMED AT THIS POINT AND NEED AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION? YEAH,
AND ONCE IT GETS TO THE STATE, THE STATE EMERGENCY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO CONVENE, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION DOWN THERE.
AND THEN THEY FINALLY WOULD GET A STATE DISASTER DECLARATION IF THEY ALSO SAW THE NEED.
AND THAT FINALLY OPENS UP THE ACCESS TO, UM, SOME FUNDS AT THE STATE GOVERNMENT LEVEL FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT USUALLY A QUICK PROCESS.
UH, AT LEAST WHEN IT GETS TO THE STATE THAT CAN, THAT CAN TAKE DAYS SOMETIMES.
SO YES, OUR CITY CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT WE DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE OVERWHELMED BEFORE THE MAYOR CAN MAKE A PROCLAMATION.
WHERE DOES THAT WORD OVERWHELMED COME FROM? SO THAT'S TYPICALLY ACTUALLY SOME OF THE, THE THRESHOLD FOR THE STATE EMERGENCY COUNCIL TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT DISASTER DECLARATION.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE OVERWHELMED TO SEND IT THERE.
WE OFTEN HAVE TO ARTICULATE THAT WE ARE FOR THEM TO ACCEPT IT.
COULD YOU ENVISION A SCENARIO WHERE THE MAYOR WOULD WANT TO, BY PROCLAMATION DECLARE, UM, AN EMERGENCY THAT WOULD NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BEING OVERWHELMED AND BEING SENT TO THE STATE, BUT WOULD ALLOW HER TO, TO, YOU KNOW, UM, RULE THE CITY BY PROCLAMATION? ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT'S TOTALLY WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO DO SO, AND THAT OFTENTIMES COULD BE RECOMMENDED.
UH, SO THAT'S TOTALLY AT OUR DISPOSAL AS AN OPTION.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY I TOLD YOU, SO WHEN WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON MODIFIED STAFF WHO NEED TO BE HERE, I SUGGESTED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY OF ACCOMMODATING THOSE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY DURING THIS EMERGENCY.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY, BECAUSE MOST OF OUR PEOPLE DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY.
AND IF WE NEED THEM IN THE CITY, THEN WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR CONTINGENCY.
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GREAT, THANK YOU.OKAY, SO WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE LATER IN THE DAY, WE'RE NOW AT THREE FEET.
ROOFS ARE BEGINNING TO SAG IN EXISTING VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVEN'T MOVED ARE PROBABLY TRAPPED IN THEIR SPOTS.
WE HAVE AN ELDERLY PERSON WITH DEMENTIA WHO'S WANDERED AWAY FROM THEIR HOME DURING THE STORM.
AND THEN A LOCAL BUSINESS WANTS THE STUDY TO PROMOTE THAT THEY'RE STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
SO LET'S TARGET THOSE ONE AT A TIME.
IS THERE A CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT THAT WE MAY POSSIBLY BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SNOW LOAD ISSUES, OR AT LEAST THE PERCEPTION OF SNOW LOAD ISSUES, UM, ACROSS THE CITY, LIKELY AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS WHO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T SEEN A SNOW EVENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE BEFORE, THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO DRIVE CALLS TO, UH, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER OR CITY GOVERNMENT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT JUST THAT THEIR FACILITIES ARE, ARE SAFE TO BE IN.
UM, AND DEFINITELY MAYBE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORM, ALTHOUGH IF WE HAD TO, WE COULD, BUT PROBABLY LOOK TO JUST KIND OF ADDRESS THAT NEED AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DO SOME MESSAGING TO JUST TELL FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT THRESHOLD YET WITH A LOT OF STRUCTURES.
YES, WE MAY NEED A PLACE TO GO.
WHAT LEVEL OF SNOW THEY SUSTAIN, UM, SHELTER TO BE OPEN.
AND THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, UM, WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO ACTIVATE THE RED CROSS AND THEY WOULD SET UP A SHELTER, UH, FOR HUMAN SHELTER.
AND FOR FOLKS WHO ARE MAYBE DISPLACED, UH, THAT'S TYPICALLY AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, GONNA BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE LOOK AT.
'CAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE PRIMARY REASON A LOT OF FACILITIES ARE STOOD UP, EOCS ARE STOOD UP FOR, TO ADDRESS THAT SHELTERING NEED.
DO WE, UM, DO WE KNOW OR HAVE, WOULD WE HAVE GATHERED INFORMATION SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY BEFOREHAND? WHAT RESOURCES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE? UM, SOME OF THE HOTELS, YOU KNOW, GENERATORS, HOW MUCH DO WE LOOK AT THE AIRPORT? HOW DO YOU GET THROUGH IT? UM, WHAT THE HOSPITAL HAD IN TERMS OF BACKUP STUFF TO KNOW WHERE THESE EXTRA RESOURCES MIGHT BE LOCATED? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
SO OUR EVACUATION AND REENTRY PLAN DID IDENTIFY A LOT OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE ASSETS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS PRE-INCIDENT, WE'D PROBABLY TRY TO HAVE SOME KIND OF COORDINATION CALL OR COORDINATION, UH, EMAIL CHAIN AT LEAST TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES GIVEN ENOUGH NOTICE ON THE INCIDENT.
SO NOW WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A PATROL SIDE ISSUE HERE.
IF SOMEONE WANDERERS AWAY FROM THEIR HOME DURING THE STORM, WHAT, WHAT TOOLS OR WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE DO WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, UM, TO GET THAT, TO GET THAT FOLK, UH, BACK INSIDE A HOME OR MAYBE SAFE, YOU GET THE CALL, IF SOMEBODY CALLS 9 1 1, MY GRANDFATHER, YOU KNOW, WALKED AWAY.
HOW, HOW WOULD YOU TRIAGE THAT WITH ALL THESE OTHER, ALL THESE OTHER INCIDENTS GOING ON? IT'S BASICALLY, THEY CALL IT AN INCIDENT WITHIN AN INCIDENT.
UH, DEPENDING ON THE AREA, IMMEDIATELY REACH OUT AND SEE IF THERE'S RESCUE CAN BE MADE READILY AVAILABLE.
SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WITH ANY HOPES THAT THREE DEEP OF SNOW, THEY'RE NOT MAKING IT TOO FAR.
SO YOU GET TWO OR THREE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN OUR CANINE ISN'T CAPABLE OF THAT.
UH, I KNOW, BUT THEY USUALLY, YEAH, IT'S NOT THREE FEET OF SNOW.
SO GIVEN ENOUGH SNOW, WE ARE POTENTIALLY BACK TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE SEARCHING FOR FOOTPRINTS ON HORSEBACK.
UH, SO
SO LET'S, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT LAST ISSUE THERE.
SO A LOCAL BUSINESS WANTS THE CITY TO PROMOTE THAT THEY'RE STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO OR WANT TO DO NECESSARILY AS A CITY WITH THESE CONDITIONS? THAT'S THE BUSINESS.
SAY IF IT'S AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF IT'S A HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING, MY GIFT SHOP IS STILL OPEN.
ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS BEFORE THE NEXT SLIDE? COOL.
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GO ON.THERE'S REPORTS OF CAR CARBON MONOXIDE INCIDENTS FROM CONS, SPINE SPACE GENERATOR USE THAT THE FIRE DISTRICT'S RESPONDING TO.
WE'RE ALSO LIKELY ASSISTING SEVERAL LARGE TREES COLLAPSE UNDER SNOW ON 89 A.
SO IF IT, BEFORE IT WAS RESTRICTED OR CLOSED, NOW IT'S ENTIRELY OUT OF PLAY.
AND THEN INCREASED REMOTE WORK HAS OVERWHELMED THE CITY'S VPN CAPACITY, WHICH, UH, BEFORE THIS EXERCISE, DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WAS A THING, BUT APPARENTLY IT IS, UH, FOR SOME JURISDICTIONS POTENTIALLY IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
SO AGAIN, PROBABLY A HUGE PUBLIC MESSAGING PIECE.
COUNSELOR, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING PROACTIVE MESSAGING ON, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE FUEL USE, INCLUDING THOSE GENERATORS.
IF WE DID GET AN UP UPTICK REPORTS, UH, WE'D PROBABLY PUSH SOME ADDITIONAL MESSAGING OUT, EVEN PAST WHAT WE DISTRIBUTED INITIALLY TO ADDRESS THAT.
I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON MEALS ON WHEELS AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FOOD IN THEIR HOUSE NECESSARILY TO SUSTAIN THEM 'CAUSE THEY RELY ON THAT MEAL.
SO IT'S PROVIDED BY THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
HOW DO WE ASSIST THEM? IT STARTS ON A THURSDAY AND THEY ON THE WEEKEND ANYWAY, USUALLY AHEAD OF LIKE THIS, YOU REQUEST ADDITIONAL MEALS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
SO THEY PROACTIVELY ISSUE AND THEY'LL SUPPLY FOR A FEW DAYS.
USUALLY THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE, I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WE REALIZE TO BE PRE-PLANNED IF WE HAVE ADVANCED NOTICE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT THIS TABLETOP IS DESIGNED TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO NOW WE CAN GO INTO A PLANNING PHASE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, ADEQUATELY PREPARED AHEAD WITH THAT IN MIND.
DO WE HAVE LISTS OF ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL BY EVENT TYPE? WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED THOSE, BUT DEFINITELY CONSIDERATION WE COULD HAVE AFTER THIS EXERCISE.
YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME FROM WHAT THE, THE MAYOR SAID IS WE HAVEN'T, UH, MENTIONED IT ALL OUR, UH, TRANSIT BUSES AND OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION.
SO AT A CERTAIN POINT I WOULD HOPE THAT SOMEBODY WOULD THINK TO, YOU KNOW, CALL MV AND SAY, STOP DRIVING BACK AND FORTH FROM COTTONWOOD.
BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT OFTEN GET OVERLOOKED.
BUT THOSE TRANSIT VEHICLES, IF WE TOP THEIR TANKS OFF IN, IN ADVANCE, I MEAN THOSE, THOSE HOLD A LOT OF FUEL.
UM, HOW REALISTIC IS IT? 89 A TREES POTENTIALLY? UM, I'VE HAD TREES FALL IN FRONT OF ME ON 89 A UM, FINGERS CROSSED IT WON'T HAPPEN.
THAT PHOTO UP THERE IS FROM 89 A, SO THEY DID HAVE TO ADDRESS IT, UH, FOR A STORM EVENT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, FIVE IN IN THE CANYON.
IN THE CANYON IS WHERE THIS OCCURRED.
WE, SO WE, WE DID HAVE A, A LARGE STORM.
WE DEAL CUTTING OFF LARGE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WHERE WE COULDN'T GET INTO.
AND IT TURNED INTO AN ISSUE WITH HOW TO GET THE TREES REMOVED, UH, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDING TO CALLS AND THEY HAVE THEIR SAW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAWYERS.
UM, SO IT DID TURN INTO AN ISSUE WE HAD TO THE ROOF.
SO CONSIDERATIONS HOW WE HAVE SAWS BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA BE THIS, WELL, THEY MAY NOT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE PATROL.
SO WORKS HAVE, UM, THE STOCKPILE CHAINSAWS AND CAN YOUR PLOWS, UM, THEY'RE BIG ENOUGH.
THEY COULD JUST BE BLOCKED OFF THE STREET.
OTHER EQUIPMENT, BUY ANOTHER, WHATEVER IT IS.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A WAY OF THINKING THAT IN ADVANCE, CONTACTING LIKE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS
SO FOOD BANK, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE NEED TO BE INFORMED AND THEY SHOULD GET THEIR FOOD OR THE ENTIRE WEEKEND.
AND LIKE VER VALLEY CAREGIVERS WOULD KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE NOT CAPABLE OF GETTING OUT OF THEIR HOME.
AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO
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WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEM, SOME OF WHICH HAVE HEALTH ISSUES.SO IF WE'RE NOT ALREADY DOING THAT, FEELS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE AND NOT LIKE THROUGH PAUSE, BUT THROUGH PERSONAL CONTACT AND AN ALERT SYSTEM.
AND I THINK AS WE'RE STARTING TO NOTICE AT THIS POINT, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THE AMOUNT OF LIAISONS THAT HAVE TO BE IN THERE, IT'S EXPANDING RAPIDLY.
UM, IT'S NO LONGER A SMALL OPERATIONS ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL OPERATION.
AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM AS SOME OF US HAVE TRAINED ON, IS EVEN MORE CRITICAL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL COOPERATING TOGETHER.
DO YOU HAVE SPACE BIG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THAT? DO YOU NEED ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO ROOM? SO THAT IS A CONSIDERATION.
CURRENTLY WE UTILIZE THE PD CONFERENCE ROOM AS OUR EOC IN AN EVENT LIKE THIS, THIS WOULD PROBABLY GROW OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, FIRE STATION ONE HAS BEEN USED PREVIOUSLY, OR WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKS WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS, UH, PROBABLY A SCENARIO WHERE WE MAY EVEN OUTGROW THAT FACILITY.
SO WORKING TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FACILITIES WHERE AN EOC COULD BE HOUSED, UM, IS A CONSIDERATION THAT I THINK IS GONNA COME OUT OF THIS.
HOW MANY FACILITY BUILDINGS ARE ON BACK OF
AND IT, SO, OKAY, THIS BUILDING SHOULD BE, IT'S THE LARGEST SPACE YOU HAVE HERE AS WELL.
PLUS YOU'VE GOT ACCESS TO OTHER ROOMS OR MEETINGS, BATHROOMS, WHATEVER YOU NEED.
THIS BUILDING SHOULD BE ON GENERATOR.
WE'LL TAKE OUT OF THIS AND, UM, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD.
SO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE AFTERNOON.
DOZENS OF BUSINESSES HAVE FORMALLY CAME TO THE CITY SEEKING EMERGENCY OCCUPANCY, INSPECT INSPECTIONS AFTER ROOF DAMAGE.
UM, VISITORS INSIST THAT A YETI HAS BEEN SEEN ON AIRPORT MESA.
UH, POLICE RECEIVE MULTIPLE REPORTS FROM DIFFERENT CALLERS AND THE CITY RECEIVES COMPLAINTS OF PRICE GOUGING FOR SNOW SHOVELS, GENERATORS, AND FIREWOOD.
UM, LET'S START WITH THE FIRST ONE THERE.
PROBABLY LIKELY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE START TO SEE, ESPECIALLY AS THE EVENT CONTINUES, INCREASED REQUESTS FOR CITY SUPPORT AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, SNOW LOAD OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, AND THOSE WOULD PROBABLY LIKELY HAVE TO BE TRIAGED, UH, THROUGH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, PULLING IN A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THIS IS ALSO A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR RELATIONSHIPS AND OUR COMPACTS TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO ASSIST WITH THAT.
UM, THE NEAT THING ABOUT THE MUTUAL AID COMPACT, ARIZONA MUTUAL AID COMPACT IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO WHAT YOU WOULD TRADITIONALLY CONSIDER, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY OR FIRST RESPONDER RESOURCES.
IF WE NEED TO REQUEST, UH, 15 ADDITIONAL INSPECTORS THROUGH THAT FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN AND SEE IF IT CAN GET FILLED THROUGH THE STATE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
AT THIS POINT IN YOUR SCENARIO, IS IT STILL SNOWING? OR HAS SNOWING STOPPED? 'CAUSE THAT WOULD, WOULD STILL SNOWING.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEND OUT INSPECTORS AT THAT POINT 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR LOAD.
SO AT THIS POINT IT STILL IS, UH, SNOWING AND THAT'S A CONSIDERATION WHEN WE GOT TO THAT POINT WHEN WE WERE FIELDING ALL THESE REQUESTS, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SOMEWHAT MAKE THAT DECISION.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S ACCURATE? YEAH.
AND AND COMPOUND IT WITH ALL THE INSPECTORS THAT WE HAVE LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
LOCAL ENGINEER WOULD WE
LET'S SAY THEY'RE CALLING 9 1 1 OR A NON-EMERGENCY LINE AND THEY'RE SAYING, I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT I HAVE SEEN A YETI ON AIRPORT MESA.
WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? IF WE HAVE A SINGLE CALL, JUST SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAID, I'VE SEEN A YETI REFER TO SPECTRUM.
REFER TO SPECTRUM
WHAT IF WE GET A DOZEN CALLS?
IF WE'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL CALLS ABOUT THE SAME THING TO THE SAME AREA, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE WORTH INVESTIGATING? OR EVEN IF IT'S OUTLAND, IT'S A YETI, IT'S LIKE, NO, YOU DIDN'T SEE A YETI.
IT PROBABLY WOULD BE SOMETHING WORTH INVESTIGATING.
AND THAT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE TOLL THAT WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER AT THIS POINT.
HOW IT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE TRIAGE THAT, WHETHER IT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER GOING OUT THERE OR MAYBE AIRPORT PERSONNEL OR ABLE TO RELAY TO US WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON UP THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, HACK PEOPLE AT SEDONA WILL BE UP
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THERE LOOKING FOR THE YETI.SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAD HEARD THAT WE CLOSED AIRPORT ROAD KIND OF RIGHT AWAY.
SO WHOEVER WENT UP THERE HAS ALREADY GONE BEYOND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED OFF.
SO WELL THEY COULD BE AT THAT THERE.
AND WE KNOW TOO, FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, UM, ROAD CLOSED SIGNS ARE A SUGGESTION.
SO, UM, IF IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR FIRST TIME TO SEDONA AND THEY REALLY WANNA SEE THE VIEW FROM THE MESA, A ROAD CLOSE SIGN MIGHT NOT STOP THEM.
WHAT ABOUT THAT LAST ISSUE THERE? THE CITY RECEIVING COMPLAINTS, UH, PRICE GOUGING FOR VARIOUS ESSENTIAL SUPPLIES.
UM, HOW COULD WE TACKLE THAT ISSUE IF WE TACKLE THAT ISSUE NECESSARILY? SHOULD THAT BE ADDRESSED AFTER THE FACT? COULD BE CONVERTING RESOURCES TO, THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A, WELL, I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD NECESSARILY GET INVOLVED IN ANY WAY, BUT IF SOMEBODY, IF WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS, JUST CAN BE HANDLED AFTER THE FACT, JUST TO KEEP YOUR SEATS, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FRAUD DIVISION, UH, ALL SEATS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP PROPER THAT YEAH.
YOU ASK WHERE THEY COULD CONTACT, YOU KNOW, CIRCLE A WELL, YOU CAN ESCALATE IT IN CIRCLE A HIERARCHY, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO OTHER THAN ENCOURAGE.
AND YOU KNOW, AS WE SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A WRONG ANSWER.
IT'S JUST WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO IN THE INCIDENT.
AND IF WE CHOOSE TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THIS AFTER THE SNOW HAS SETTLED, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO.
SO YES, AS YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THINKING MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COMMUNICATE ON THE FRONT END.
IF YOU EXPERIENCE CHRIST GAS AND YOU SAVE YOUR RECEIPT, DON'T WORRY, IT HAPPENED.
AND THERE WILL BE AN AVENUE TO REPORT IT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
SO NOW WE'RE POTENTIALLY AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR GETTY FOOTPRINT ON HORSEBACK.
SO STARTING TO GET INTO THE EVENING TODAY, POTENTIALLY THE LAST DAY OF THE EVENT, WEATHER SERVICE SAID THIS MIGHT BE A TWO TO THREE DAY EVENT, AN A PS TRANSMISSION LINE TRIPS NEAR MUNZ CANYON, THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ONE OF THE TRANSMISSION LINES BETWEEN THE CITY AND OTHER, UH, JURISDICTIONS LIKE MUN PARK, FLAGSTAFF, UM, AND NOW THE CITY'S WITHOUT POWER.
SO THIS ISSUE HAS COMPOUNDED A LOT MORE, HOPEFULLY WE THOUGHT PROACTIVELY AND HAD A, SOME KIND OF SHELTER OPENED UP PREVIOUSLY.
UM, IS BEING WITHOUT POWER BY ITSELF NECESSARILY AN EMERGENCY? IF YOU'RE ON OXYGEN? IF YOU'RE ON OXYGEN, YEAH.
FOR SOME FOLKS PERHAPS WITH MEDICAL NEEDS, UM, DEFINITELY COULD BE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR EVERYONE.
ONE CAVEAT ABOUT THAT, WHEN A PS WHEN A LINE TRIPS, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND INSPECT THE LINE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ANY ISSUES BEFORE THEY CAN REENERGIZE IT.
AND THAT PROCESS ONLY HAPPENS DURING THE DAY.
SO IN THIS SCENARIO, IF THAT HAPPENED LATE AT NIGHT, UH, IT WOULD BE ALMOST A GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULDN'T GET ADDRESSED TILL THE NEXT MORNING.
AND THERE'S ALSO AN AMATEUR METEOROLOGIST WHO'S CLAIMING THAT ANOTHER THREE FEET OF SNOW IS COMING, UH, DESPITE OFFICIAL FORECAST SHOWING THE WEATHER
IS THAT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER OR OUT OF COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'D WANNA ADDRESS IF WE KNEW, HEY, WE HAVE OFFICIAL FORECASTING TO THE CONTRARY THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN? PROBABLY, YEAH.
UM, THERE'S A SPECIFIC SCENARIO THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN I WROTE THIS INJECT, UM, HAD TO DO WITH A FOLK, UH, A GUY DOWN IN PHOENIX WHO'S A AMATEUR METEOROLOGIST AND PREDICTED A BUNCH OF TORNADOES ACROSS THE STATE OF ARIZONA A FEW YEARS BACK.
UM, THOSE DIDN'T COME TO PASS, BUT HIS GRAPHICS IN HIS MESSAGING, UH, LOOK SO CLOSELY TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICES MESSAGING THAT FO WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING CALLS TO THE EOC SAYING, AM I IN A, IN THE PATH OF OUR TORNADO? SO THIS RUN WITH A SHARPIE,
UM, BACK TO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, IDENTIFYING RESOURCES.
UH, AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAND RADIO OPERATES, BUT THERE ARE HAND RADIO OPERATORS OUT THERE AND SOMETHING THAT STILL WORK.
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GIVEN ACCESS TO POWER STILL, WHETHER THAT'S GENERATOR OR, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, COCONINO COUNTY AND YOU HAVE A PI COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MAINTAIN THOSE ROSTERS OF HAM RADIO OPERATORS.
I WILL SAY, UM, IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE WITH SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THOSE OPERATORS ARE GETTING FEWER AND FAR BETWEEN.
BUT, UH, CERTAINLY A SCENARIO WHERE THEY COULD BE UTILIZED HERE.
I WOULD SAY TOO, SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS, IF WE HAD SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED HERE HEAVILY.
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SCENARIO FOR THAT.
ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS? WE'RE ALMOST, WE'RE ALMOST TO THE END HERE WITH THAT LAST PART, MANUFAC VERY VIDEO PHOTOGRAPH.
AND I WILL TELL YOU HOW EASY THAT IS.
EVERY BACKGROUND ON THIS POWERPOINT, WHICH LOOKS LIKE SOME OF 'EM ARE FROM THE CITY OF SEDONA OR SURROUNDING AREAS, ALL OF THESE WERE AI GENERATED.
SO SOMEBODY COULD EASILY USE THAT SAME TOOL AND HAVE A CAR CRASH OR EMERGENCY SITUATION HAPPENING SOMEWHERE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE REALITY OF, UH, TODAY'S DAY AND AGE.
YETI YETI MIGHT BE LESS CONVINCING, BUT THEY COULD, I BELIEVE.
SO NOW WE'RE TO THE NEXT MORNING.
THREE DAYS IN STORM EFFECTS HAS SUBSIDED.
ONLY FLURRY IS EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
THEIR POWER RESTORATION SHOULD BE BACK ON A FEW HOURS, BUT NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND DISCARDED DEBRIS THAT REMAINS IN THE STREETS FROM THE STORM.
UH, DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, TYPICALLY AT A FLOODING INCIDENTS AND WILDFIRE INCIDENTS.
BUT SOMETIMES THE SNOW INCIDENTS, UM, BECOMES A, A A, A BIG ISSUE TO HAVE TO HANDLE.
AND WITH THIS MUCH SNOW, YOUR SURFACE DRAINAGE, YOUR PIPES, YOUR S SWALES ARE GONNA GET LOG JAMMED WITH ICE AS IT STARTS TO BREAK UP.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MASSIVE FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
JUST 'CAUSE THE SNOW'S OVER DOESN'T MEAN THE INCIDENT'S OVER.
AND WE'LL SEE THAT WITH OUR NEXT INJECT HERE.
SO NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS NOW FORECASTING WARMING TEMPERATURES NEXT WEEK, AND IT COULD BE 20 TO 30 DEGREES WARMER IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES.
UH, NOTE THAT THE HIGH COUNTRY HAS PROBABLY GOTTEN CLOSE TO THREE OR FOUR FEET OF SNOW.
UH, WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A CONCERN WITH RAPID SNOW MELT? FLASH FLOODING? FLASH FLOODING? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO JUST 'CAUSE THE SNOW ENDED EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, UM, WOULD LIKELY STAY OPEN TO SEEK SOME OF THESE IMPACTS THROUGH.
THERE CONTINUES TO BE REGIONAL REQUESTS FOR SUPPORT AND LOCATING MISSING PERSONS AND SNOW REMOVAL.
NOW THAT THIS EVENT IS KIND OF WINDING DOWN FOR US, DO WE THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE AT A POINT WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUTSIDE REQUESTS? POTENTIALLY DEPENDS ON A LOT.
WHAT'S A PATROL CONSIDERATION? IF CAMP VERDE CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN THE THICK OF IT, WE WE WOULD REALLY LIKE AN OFFICER DOWN HERE.
HOW WOULD WE, HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THAT? HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
UNLESS WE HAVE OFFICERS WHO LIVE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN OR IN THAT AREA THAT COULDN'T MAKE IT IN AND CAN DIVERT AND GO HELP THEM, WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO COOPERATE TO THE EXTENT THAT LOTS OF US RELEASING RESOURCES FROM HERE REMOTELY FAIRLY WELL PROBABLY SWIM.
AND I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXTRA STAFF BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN ON SHIFT FOR HOW LONG BY NOW.
WE CAN'T JUST STAY HERE FOREVER.
ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS? AS LONG AS YOU NEEDED.
YEAH, SORRY, BUT NO, I, I HAD TO DURING ANY, SO IF WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES, LIKE SOMETIMES WE SAW DURING THE POCKET FIRE REPORTING CANCELLATIONS, ARE WE ABLE TO DO ANY KIND OF COORDINATED RECOVERY MESSAGE AFTER THAT TO LET FOLKS KNOW, HEY, THE, THE, THE IMPACTS HAVE SUBSIDED, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO, TRY TO REBOOK OR WHAT HAVE YOU? IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK, BE KIND OF FORWARD THINKING ON? WELL, WE MIGHT FORWARD THINK IT THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING HERE.
IT'S STILL A MESS, RIGHT? YEAH.
POTENTIAL FLASH FLOODING, WE MAY START TO GET REQUESTS LIKE WE KIND OF GOT EARLIER FOR BUSINESSES TO, YOU KNOW, PROMOTE THAT THEY'RE STILL OPEN.
UM, BUT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WEIGH AGAINST THE ONGOING KIND OF PUBLIC SAFETY NEED.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU MIGHT ABOUT
SO THAT'S THE END OF THE EXERCISE.
UH, WE'LL GET INTO OUR HOT WASH, WHICH IS OUR DEBRIEF, KIND OF JUST HERE IN A SECOND.
THAT'LL BE THE FINAL COMPONENT.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING WE, WE'VE COVERED HERE TODAY BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DEBRIEF? YES.
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ALL THIS, DOES SOMEONE CHECK IN COMMAND SITE? CERTAINLY SOMETHING THE EOC WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER.UM, I DIDN'T WORK IT INTO THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT NOW THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP, YEAH.
WHAT'S ADDED TO THE LIST? I, OKAY.
UH, DID YOU HAVE YEAH, I JUST WANNA, UM, GO BACK TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF A LOCAL EMERGENCY.
I THINK LIKELY THAT WOULD'VE OCCURRED QUITE A BIT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS.
AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO THAT IN THE CITY CODE IS THAT IF THE MAYOR, UH, DECLARE PROCLAIMS AN A LOCAL EMERGENCY, THEN, UM, THE MAYOR HAS AUTHORITY TO, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC ACCESS ANY PUBLIC BUILDING, STREET OR OTHER PUBLIC PLACE.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD'VE ALREADY MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME INTO CITY HALL OR TO BREWER TO PAY THEIR BILL OR TO GO TO COURT.
SO I, I THINK THAT WE WOULD'VE ALREADY MADE THAT, UM, PROCLAMATION AND WE WOULD SEND OUT THE MESSAGING, UH, LOCAL EMERGENCY.
ALL CITY BUILDINGS ARE CLOSED, COURT IS CLOSED.
THEY HAD TO GO A COURT HEARING OR SOMETHING.
AND WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY GRANT AND, AND YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE SEWER BILLS, IF THEY'RE DUE THAT DAY, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, GRANT THEM.
WE, WE WOULD WORK WITH JULIE ON SOME, SOME WORDING THAT DOESN'T MAKE US SOUND LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, GOUGING THEM.
WE'LL START WRAPPING UP HERE IN A SECOND, BUT I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UH, WE'VE HAD EVENTS LIKE THIS BEFORE.
I HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT, UH, DECEMBER OF 1967 AREAS OF THE VERDE VALLEY SAW UP TO 40 INCHES OF SNOW IN JEROME, 36 INCHES IN SEDONA, AND 26 INCHES IN COTTONWOOD.
THOSE TWO PHOTOS ON THERE ARE FROM CLARKDALE, UM, DURING THAT EVENT.
SO CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, RIGHT? MIGHT BE A ONCE IN A 50 YEAR, MIGHT BE A ONCE IN A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.
UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PREPARE FOR WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE OUR WORST DAY HERE.
SO CERTAINLY NOT OUTSIDE THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY.
SO WE'LL BE REAL QUICK ON THE DEBRIEF HERE, BUT BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FROM TODAY, WHO, WHO HAD A, WHO HAD A BIG TAKEAWAY FROM TODAY THAT THEY JUST WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT DIESEL OR ELECTRIC.
I KNOW, BUT IT'S REALLY FUN TO TRUST US.
IS A GOOD, BUT IT'S A GOOD POINT.
I MEAN, WE, I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE HEARD THE ADAGE, YOU KNOW, TWO IS ONE, ONE IS NONE.
UM, THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE THE CASE HERE.
SO JUST HAVING REDUNDANCIES IS, UH, IS CRITICAL.
UM, WHO, WHO WANTS TO HIGHLIGHT A, A BIG AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT? YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE LIKE, HEY, WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE DEVOTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS THAN WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
UM, I, I THINK JULIE ASKED A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, LIKE, DO WE KNOW WHO ARE CRITICAL PERSONNEL BASED ON THE KIND OF EMERGENCY? AND YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE THAT.
WELL, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE SO AND SO AND SO AND SO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE LISTS.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED BY POSITION, WHICH POSITIONS NEED TO REPORT, WHICH POSITIONS SHOULD WORK FROM HOME, ALL THAT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
HAVING THOSE THINGS PRE-PLANNED, UH, DEFINITELY MAKES US PROCESS A LOT EASIER.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, FOR THE EXERCISE ITSELF, THE FIRE DISTRICT SHOULD BE HERE.
I MEAN, WE'RE JOINED AT THE HIP WITH THEM IN SO MANY WAYS, SO IT DOES FEEL LIKE IT WAS A MISS THAT THEY WEREN'T HERE TODAY.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED, UM, ON OUR TABLETOPS AND EXERCISES GOING FORWARD.
SO EVEN THOSE THAT ARE A LARGE CITY RESPONSE, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE JOINED AT THE HIP, THEY'RE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
I DON'T REALLY NEED, I THINK TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY TAKEAWAY IS WE NEED TO KNOW WHO OUR NON-PROFIT PARTNERS ARE AND THE KIND OF EVENT THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN ALREADY KNOW HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
INSTEAD OF US SUDDENLY CALLING THEM AND SAYING, OH, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM AND THEY'RE NOT SET UP TO DO IT.
SO WE, WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THAT TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT IN ORDER, IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THIS.
UM, AND I ALSO THINK THAT PUBLIC WORKS, THEY DON'T ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KIND WHAT KINDS OF EMERGENCIES, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT I NEED? IF I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FROM THE WASTEWATER PLANT, THAT'S A BIG DEAL TOO.
SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO SAY, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO HAVE IN TOWN ONCE WE KNOW THIS MIGHT HAPPEN AND WHERE WOULD WE PUT IT? BECAUSE WE DON'T, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A LOT OF STORAGE AREAS AROUND TOWN.
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LIKE THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE NOT ALREADY DOING THEM THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING DOING THEM.SO JUST WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR, SOMEBODY'S BEEN HERE 10 HOURS.
UM, I, I WOULD JUST SAY BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UH, IS I WOULD DEVELOP POLICIES ON DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROCLAMATIONS, BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED IN DAY ONE AND DAY TWO WERE, BECAUSE WE WERE STILL ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO BE ACCESSING ROADS, BEING OUT THERE.
AND GENERALLY AS A RULE, WHAT YOUR BEST THING TO DO IS TO BE CONSERVATIVE FROM MY EXPERIENCE, SHUT DOWN, KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS, PROCLAIM THAT SO THAT OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PEOPLE CAN DO THEIR JOB TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE.
BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THAT.
AND SO I THINK IT'D BE, RATHER THAN TO TRY TO DO IT ON THE FLY, I WOULD SAY DEVELOP SOME POLICIES OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PROCLAMATIONS, HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT'S GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY SECOND WE'RE, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE BASED ON THESE ONE, EVERY 100 YEAR OCCURRENCES, I NOW AM OVER A THOUSAND YEARS OLD.
UH, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A ONE IN 100 YEAR EXPERIENCE.
I WOULD SAY JUST AS A, AS A COMMUNITY, WE MAYBE NEED TO LOOK AT THE EOC FACILITY IN TERMS OF LOOKING AND PUTTING INTO YOUR CAPITAL PLAN.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE WHERE WE'RE GONNA RELY ON THAT.
YOU COULD DO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WITH THAT.
COMMON OPERATING PICTURE IS SO CRITICAL TO INCIDENT COMMAND AND GETTING IT, GETTING IT IN PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR THE SAME INFORMATION, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT THEIR DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A LONG RANGE PERSPECTIVE, THIS OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE A, A, A COUNCIL, UH, UH, DIRECTIVE.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE MAYBE LACKING A LITTLE BIT JUST IN INFRASTRUCTURE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU REALLY COULDN'T REALLY STAND UP AN INSTANT COMMAND AND HAVE ALL OF THE FEATURES AND, AND, AND TECHNOLOGY THERE THAT'S NECESSARY.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE WRAP UP HERE? SO OTHER THAN GIVING YOU ALL THE EQUIPMENT, THE RESOURCES, THE WHATEVER YOU NEED, AND, AND STAYING THE HELL OUTTA THE WAY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM COUNCIL? WHAT IS OUR ROLE IN THIS? I THINK ABSOLUTELY ON THE, ON, ON THE PUBLIC MESSAGING PIECE.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MORE RECEPTIVE TO HEARING THINGS FROM THEIR ELECTED OFFICIAL THAN THEY MIGHT BE HEARING FROM GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES.
SO I THINK BEING THOSE ADVOCATES, UH, FOR CITY, CITY PROCEDURES AND BEING ABLE TO HELP US GET THE INFORMATION OUT, UH, WORKING WITH THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL.
AND WHAT WE MIGHT CHOOSE TO DO IF WE STILL HAVE POWER OR SOMETHING, IS TO SET UP LIKE SOME LIVESTREAM PRESS CONFERENCES WHERE WE HAVE THE MAYOR DOING THE DECLARATION AND TELLING PEOPLE STAY OFF THE STREETS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BECAUSE PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO THE POLICE CHIEF, TO THE MAYOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRE, UM, CHIEF, UM, I THINK I HEARD THAT.
THIS BUILDING GENERATOR, THAT BUILDING WILL, WILL OUTGROW IN A MINUTE OR ROAD ALSO HAS A BIG SPACE.
THIS ONE MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE BECAUSE WE HAVE PROXIMITY PB AND THEY HAVE ALL THE TECHNOLOGY.
I THANK YOU FOR YESTERDAY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PI BECAUSE IT'LL BE NEEDED FOR THIS
SO SOMETHING I'M THINKING ACTUALLY THE VERY BEGINNING IS WHAT ARE THE TRIGGERS? AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO IS WHAT ARE THE TRIGGERS AND WHAT GETS TRIGGERED AT THOSE PARTICULAR POINTS.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AT THAT TIME OF THE YEAR, WHETHER IT'S FIRE TIME OF YEAR OR IT'S SNOW TIME OF YEAR OR WHATEVER TIME OF YEAR, WE HAVE SOME KIND OF A PUBLIC EVENTS AND IT'S PROBABLY LIVE STREAMED THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST HEAR IT AGAIN AND THAT EVERY YEAR THEY GET TO HEAR IT AGAIN.
SO THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE ACTUALLY BETTER EQUIPPED TO STAY OUT OF THE WAY WHEN THERE'S SITUATION.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW ONE THING WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT, 'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE TIME, IS THE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? SCENARIOS, WHO COMES IN NEXT, UM, TO HELP, LIKE WITH THE INSPECTIONS, I WAS BEING A SMART ASS ABOUT THE, THE ENGINEERS, BUT THAT'S OUR INSIDE JOKE ON THE ENGINEERS HERE LOCALLY.
BUT YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO WE GET, LIKE TRADITIONALLY FOR, FOR ME, UM, OUR IN OUR INSPECTORS DO COME IN AND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES IN VERY QUICKLY
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BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO ALSO ASSIST IN SOME OF THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND SUCH.THEY'RE, THEY'RE EQUIPPED TO DO THOSE.
SO, BUT THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES WHEN DO THEY COME IN AND, AND DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE GET THEM HERE AND THEN HOW THEY SERVE ONCE THEY'RE HERE.
SO JUST THOSE NEXT STEPS OF BEING ABLE TO, TO SERVICE AFTER THE FACT.
SO MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU, CHANCE IS THIS IN YOUR, UH, WORK LIST OF, OF THINGS TO ACCOMPLISH? I MEAN, YOU GAVE US THE SCENARIO YOU KNEW THAT WERE GONNA BE HOLES, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, I VERY MUCH BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT IT'S, IT'S QUAL WALK RUN.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHERE THE GAPS ARE RIGHT NOW, UM, SO WE CAN ADDRESS THEM.
AND I, I DEVELOPED THIS EXERCISING KNOWING THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA HAVE THE PERFECT ANSWER TO EVERYTHING I POSED, BUT THAT ALLOWS US TO IDENTIFY IT AND THEN GROW OUR PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
SO HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE YOU TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE START BUDGET IN VERY FEW WEEKS SHORT FOR 28, I THINK WE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE VERY QUICK TO, YOU KNOW, JUST MOVE FORWARD AND START TO MOVE ON LIKE GENERATORS.
UM, LIKE OTHER THINGS, EQUIP ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT IS EASY TO, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF MOVE ON.
BUT WE TALK ABOUT ALSO IDENTIFYING ANOTHER FACILITY THAT THAT'S LONG TERM THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY YEARS, UM, IF WE DECIDE TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD OR WHATEVER ELSE WE DECIDED TO LEASE, WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO I THINK TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A BOLT TO YEAR PROGRAM, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN KNOCK OUT AND START THINKING ABOUT A YEAR.
WELL I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU FELT MAYBE OBLIGATED TO BE HERE ON THE PD SIDE, BUT YOU GUYS HAD GREAT INPUT.
WE WALKED THROUGH THIS SCENARIO, WE BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GOOD ISSUES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD ACTION ITEMS MOVING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY IF AN EVENT LIKE THIS DOES HAPPEN, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED NOW BECAUSE WE WALKED THROUGH THIS SCENARIO.
UH, SO WE FIND YEAH, JASON CLEANING THE DRY.
YEAH, I HAVE TO CLOSE THIS MEETING.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING IDEAS FOR FUTURE MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE ON COUNCIL HAVE ANY ITEMS? OKAY, WITH THAT, WITH
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NO ITEMS FORTHCOMING, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.